[amsat-bb] Re: The Mode B tradition, was Re: The Eagle has died.

[i8cvs]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Robertson" <broberts at mta.ca>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] The Mode B tradition, was Re: The Eagle has died.

> Quoting i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs at tin.it>:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Oler" <cvn65vf94 at msn.com>
> > To: <kc6uqh at cox.net>; <domenico.i8cvs at tin.it>; <vk6xh at arach.net.au>;
> > <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > Cc: <iz1dsj at sparks.it>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: The Eagle has died.
> >
> > > If Eagle dies, so does technoloigy for AMSAT, and the Amateur Radio
> > > Community!
> > >
> > > What is next? Quenched Arc? Spark? 200 KHz and down?
> > >
> > > Art ,
> > > KC6UQH
> > >
> > > Hello Art.
> >
> > clipped
> >
> > > I close with this thought.  Instead of Oscar 40, had the community
> > gotten
> > > two more Oscar 13's.  Pretty plain jane birds with not a lot of gizmos
> > and
> > > Amsat engineers would have had to have been content with reinventing
> > the
> > > wheel...but say instead of AO-40 as a pile of junk we had two more
> > Oscar
> > > 13's that worked.
> > >
> > > Dont you think it would have been a better deal then we got?  Do you
> > think
> > > that there would have been more or less people involved in HEO
> > > communications?
> > >
> > > I think more...and I think that is a good thing.
> > >
> > > Robert G. Oler WB5MZO/portable Life member AMSAT ARRL and a few other
> > > organizatiions.
> >
> > I agree Robert
> >
> > Much more content satellite users with reinventing the wheel !
> >
> > Look at many are actually operating CW and SSB on OSCAR-7 , FO-29 and
> > VO-52 waiting for the next viable HEO
> >
> > 73" de
> >
> > i8CVS Domenico
>
> Happily, two of the three birds you mention above, AO-7 and VO-52, are in
> exactly the mode that analog Eagle users will be using, U/V. As I
> understand it, the plan is to have this link working 24/7. (Yes it will
> primarily use a software-driven transponder, but that will be transparent
> to the analog user.) In this regard, I can't see how the design
> team can be accused of unnecessarily innovating.
>
> 73, Bruce
> VE9QRP

Hi Bruce, VE9QRP

You missed the point because Robert (and I aegree) says that from an
operational point of view it would much better to have two less costly
satellite like OSCAR-13 now in orbit but working  instead of a more
complicaded and costly AO40 not working.

When AO40 died I losted all my satellite friends in the USA and Pacific area
and you losted all your friends in Europe and so on.

If two OSCAR-13 similar satellites where working now we all will be
discussing this problems on the air for hours instead to push the keyboard
on internet and the numbar of satellite users will be larger and having a
larger number of satellite users means to have big voice and power during
the IARU and ITU Conferences

On the other side from the techincal point of view if AO40 was not born then
our knowledge and skill in microwave would be less.

A good balance from the operational and technical needs is necessary because
radio-ham is not only technical or only operational but a mix of both but
initially the easy space communication is more important then highly
technological.

Let at first the amateur community to work worldwide with satellites similar
to OSCAR-13 and hopefully P3E to prevent that they becames frustrated
waiting a life in a single FM channel for a new good one after OSCAR-13 or
AO40

73" de

i8CVS Domenico