[amsat-bb] Re: Phase 4 versus Eagle

[Jim Jerzycke]

That's why documentation is so important.
We have a saying in the launch biz....It's not ready
to launch until the stack of paperwork is AT LEAST as
tall as the launch vehicle.
ONE procedure I run for setting up the Command and
Telemetry links is OVER 200 pages, and I have several
procedures to run before and during the countdown and
liftoff.
And I'm just one guy in one of the smaller groups
here!
73, Jim  KQ6EA

--- sco at sco-inc.com wrote:

> 
> The failure of AO-40 was not a problem of "rocket
> science". It was 
> caused by human stupidity ... not writing down what
> had to be removed 
> before flight so if the only person who knew that
> info could not be 
> available their backup would.
> 
> Les
> 
> At 12:25 PM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
> >Les,
> >
> >Yes, they are aware of the fate of AO-40. They have
> had their own problems
> >over the years and they understand that this is
> rocket science.
> >
> >Rick
> >W2GPS
> >AMSAT LM2232
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: sco at sco-inc.com [mailto:sco at sco-inc.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:15 PM
> >To: Rick Hambly (W2GPS)
> >Cc: amsat-BB
> >Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 4 versus Eagle
> >
> >
> >after AO-40 blew I would find it hard to believe
> that they would
> >trust the success of their mission with another
> AO40 type sat
> >onboard. Are they aware of our past track record?
> >
> >Good if they let us.
> >
> >Les
> >
> >At 10:08 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
> > >Les,
> > >
> > >Intelsat has already told me that it is OK to
> attach a satellite with
> >motor,
> > >tank and fuel. In fact, they offered to fuel our
> satellite with the excess
> > >fuel from filling their own tanks.
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >W2GPS
> > >AMSAT LM2232
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org
> [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
> > >Behalf Of sco at sco-inc.com
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:28 AM
> > >To: Andrew Glasbrenner
> > >Cc: amsat-BB
> > >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 4 versus Eagle
> > >
> > >
> > >I doubt that would ever happen. If I was the CEO
> of the launch sat i
> > >would never let an "amateur" rocket motor hitch a
> ride on my multi
> > >million dollar bird. Just like NASA won't let us
> do it.
> > >
> > >If you can think of a way for us to get from GTO
> without a motor and
> > >fuel then it might happen.
> > >
> > >Les W4SCO
> > >www.scoincsoftware.com
> > >
> > >
> > >At 10:08 PM 12/12/2007, you wrote:
> > > >One of the possibilities I have not seen
> relayed well from the meetings
> >to
> > > >general knowledge is that it may be possible
> for Intelsat to attach Eagle
> > >to
> > > >one of their satellites, and drop us off in GTO
> on their way to GEO. This
> > > >possibility alone is worth working this
> opportunity out to it's
> >conclusion.
> > > >
> > > >It has become very apparent to me that we will
> not fund a HEO solely on
> >our
> > > >current membership donations. Ever. We have to
> go for the outside funding
> > > >Tom mentioned, and the best way to do that is a
> simple, tool-like
> > > >application like a GEO, geared heavily towards
> EMCOMM. Too many of us
> >have
> > > >taken the wait and see approach when it comes
> to supporting a HEO
> >project.
> > > >The money has to come first, then the satellite
> gets built and launched,
> > >not
> > > >the other way around.
> > > >
> > > >73, Drew KO4MA
> > >
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