[amsat-bb] Re: ... US military operations [slightly OT]

[Luc Leblanc]

Just to pointed out i asked at numerous occasion to have this BB moderated and 
my request where always turned down as this BB is "open". This mean it is not 
restricted to any subjects.

As my first message regarding AO-51 use by US military forces was not intended 
for this one at least to show up any conspiracy but conflicting utilization of 
an IARU amateur service allocated satellite.

Irresponsible and uncontrolled operations on AO-51 regarding IARU is all what's 
my post is about. It is not related to anything else and the funding issues and 
the benefits from volunteers are not the purpose of my post. 

Making amateurs radio satellite available to military services is a dangerous 
precedent! Is an Iranian korean chinese military satellite using 145.820 and 
build by cadets will be endorse by AMSAT-NA? Its time Misses Leber to 
act...again lightly {uprorious laughter ensues} :(

In a way to help some (both gender here...)  {uprorious laughter ensues} to 
remain focused on the subject or the task  Here is an excerpt of the IARU 
INFORMATION FOR DEVELOPERS OF SATELLITES
PLANNING TO USE FREQUENCY BANDS ALLOCATED TO
THE AMATEUR-SATELLITE SERVICE section VIII. REVIEW MISSION PLANS item B 

B. Alternatives to the amateur-satellite service

Alternatives to the amateur-satellite service exist in the many satellite 
services for which
allocations are provided in the Radio Regulations. See Annex IV for a complete 
list of
services, including satellite services, to which frequencies are allocated.
For missions not fitting into one of the existing services, particularly for 
short term
research or school projects, experimental stations may be licensed by 
administrations.
See: Article 27 of the Radio Regulations. Experimental stations may be assigned 
on
any frequency on a secondary basis.
NOTE: Experimental stations authorized by one administration are not normally
permitted to communicate with experimental stations authorized by another. 
Special
international arrangements are required. [See: RR 27.1.]
If experimental licensing is proposed using frequencies in an amateur-satellite 
service
allocation, then the IARU Satellite Advisor may be able to help guide your 
frequency
planning so as to minimise the probability of interference to and from licensed 
amateur satellite
service stations. Administrations normally consider experimental stations 
assecondary 
to all other licensed stations. So, frequency coordination is particularly
important for assuring mission success.

NOTE: When ready to ask for IARU frequency coordination, please, be sure to
use the latest frequency coordination request form! The form changes from time
to time.

I know stupidity has no sex {uprorious laughter ensues} I like this one 
probably my next signature comment, but the more cubes we put in spaces the 
more we open our spectrum to non amateur operations.

Get a cheap satellite in the space on the HAM satellite band. Just put a 
repeater in it promised them to let them operate it at the end of his life and 
bingo you got a free ride... The dummies are even "helping US the Abou 
Ghraib/Guantanamo folks they even called us their friends"{uprorious laughter 
ensues}

As an "international" organization AMSAT-NA should not put themselves in a week 
position supporting the military as some will probably tend to extend the 
debate. As one mentioned it so well " While i am deeply concerned by the 
actions of the US military, i do know who are the 'Commander and Chief' is; and 
i also recognize that the US military is, by necessity, a very diverse 
organization"

The same "necessity" was also present in Vietnam and if some are willing to 
sell their souls and principles for money i am not and its why i wrote and 
signed again "I know i wrote in the past that AMSAT'S should be "innovative" 
but not to a point to prostitute with any military action or operation."

I know a time where floks down the border where much more concerned and less 
inclined towards the lighter and easy side EG:{uprorious laughter ensues}


Some link of interest:

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/9/4377
http://www.julien-daillere.com/filmacoz/english/actions-english.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/09/iraq.main/index.html
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/05/07/iraq8560.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_prison
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse


Margaret Leber K3XS and Andrew Glasbrenner KO4MA both wrote in their own time:

" please be patient as we cooperate with our friends at the USAFA" {uprorious 
laughter ensues}


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"-"
"Stupidity has no sex" {uprorious laughter ensues}


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
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