> >>...mostly my FT-817 or I can go FT-857D if I get the urge... You can easily work AO-51 and SO-50 with your '817! Page 45 of the 817ND manual shows you how to program "split frequencies." Here's a quick tutorial on working AO-51 and SO-50 for you: http://homepage.mac.com/clintbradford/Menu3.html Clint Bradford, K6LCS AMSAT Area Coordinator