[amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey

[John Price]

James, I wont be investing in 3 gig equipment. If I had plenty of
money and lots of expertise all things would be possible. In the real
world it just don't work that way. You are trying to sell Amateur
Satellite service to the masses by offering them a chance to work
something that they can't use or afford. The time and expense that is
put into developing transponders that you can't buy a radio to work is
not practical. Do you know that Yaesu has withdrawn from the satellite
market? Kenwood offers the 1.2 gig module for there 2000 at a cost of
an additional $500.00 making that radio over $2000.00. That is it as
far as I know for off the shelf rigs for 1.2 gig. Downeast has a
upconverter for about the same cost as the Kenwood module. Now in the
real world that is a bunch to invest to add one band to your station.

Your comment concerning appliance operators sure wont endear many new
hams to Amsat. I have no formal training in electronics. I spent 25
years as a Deputy Sheriff and knew nothing
of ham radio or electronics when I got my ticket. Over the past 20
years I have learned a little
thanks to a bunch of wonderful skilled hams. Together with one of my
friends a RF engineer who retired from GE we built a 1.2 gig station
for field day a year ago out of a old Master III and a
signal generator. Got the contact and was mighty proud. I have
listened on L/u a few times since and have worked three contacts.  If
the 3 gig flys I might decide to do the same thing. My point
is how many of those "appliance operators" are going to be able to do
the same. We are going to have another satellite with a bunch of
electronics that might get used by 10 people.

My since of adventure is tempered by my practicallity I guess.

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM, James French <w8iss at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:00 -0400, John Price wrote:
>>
>> I for one am very opposed to the 3 and 10 gig transponder. I have seen
>> little or no interest in the 1.2 uplink. Folks are not willing to
>> spend $500.00 to work a transponder that is mostly quite and
>> could go away over night like 2.4 did with AO-40. Did anyone listen to
>> the L/u AO-51 on Field Day.
>> While V/u was jammed I worked the first station I heard on L/u and
>> there were maybe 5 others on that pass. I don't maintain 1.2 gig
>> equipment here. It is not worth the investment.
>
> And what would be the trigger for you to invest in the equipment? There
> is NO GAURUNTEES that any of these new birds will get to orbit in one
> peice. Look at AO-40. She was a GREAT birds at the beginning, then
> something happened and all we had were a couple of uplinks with one
> downlink.
>
> Where is your sense of adventure with experimenting with something new
> and untested? How are you helping advance the Art of Amateur Radio and
> Satellites if we are STUCK back in the stone ages with 2m and 70cm and
> FM birds?
>
> I for one would and have invested in the higher bands as I am also using
> that equipment for Rovering and some contesting which I have found that
> I really like. I also use this equipment to talk around my area/state.
> This equipment with a little modification is can also be used for when
> we have a HEO or GEO satellite in orbit.
>
> I WANT more digital store-and-forward birds along with more Sideband
> voice birds on bands OTHER than 2mand 70cm. Right now there is no
> CHALLENGE in the current crop of satellites we have when all I can do
> MOST of the time is get on and have enough time to get a GRID SQUARE
> and a NAME/CALLSIGN of the person I am talking to. I want to be able
> to hold a net where I can talk to a NUMBER of people and find out more
> about everyone or ask for help and get it. I want to be able to send
> video via these new birds of my latest project or of the 'kids' as they
> operate. I want to be able to demonstrate what Amatuer radio is and can
> do that the internet can't. I want to be able to TINKER on these new
> birds with a new mode that I have either developed or have an interest
> in. I want to be able to use that new microwave transverter for things
> other than to talk to or see (video) locals.
>
> Where is EVERYONES sense of experimentation or did we as amateur radio
> operators/licenses leave that at the door when we got licensed or are we
> just content with what has been done and happy to sit on our laurels
> and let the world leave us behind as a group that WILL die out in about
> twenty/thirty years as we don't have any NEW blood to carry on with the
> experimentation, thinking, and tinkering? Are we going to let the
> INTERNET be the thing to determine how and where we go as a group?
> Everyone on here gripes about how the internet is taking away everything
> what about how we are making things interesting to entice these people
> in the hobby and into Satellites? Where is the challenge anymore? I
> want to be able to EXPERIMENT on thse new crop of birds, not just sit
> around on 2m and 70cm and make a couple quick qso's to exchange grid
> squares!!!
>
> Bill, I looked at your webpage and see that you MIGHT have a reason to
> have new birds up and running other than just as a member that wants to
> help out AMSAT through these trying times. I see no problem with that at
> all as AMSAT has had others like you on the BoD before and they have
> done a great job of not compromising their integrity as a Director. I
> just don't see anything saying if you are a owner or an employee of this
> company. Could you enlighten me and the others before I make a decision
> on which three candidates are the best?
>
> James W8ISS - a voting member that has issues with the current crop of
> APPLIANCE OPERATORS on the amateur bands!!!
>
>
>
>
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