[amsat-bb] Re: broken links

[Joseph Armbruster]

After reading this thread, I figured it'd be worthwhile to set up a
mediawiki instance to let people get familiar with it.  I set one up last
night on a node for my own enlightenment.  The configuration is not "the
best" by any means.  For those interested in timeframe, it took thirty
minutes to configure this instance from a clean arch linux installation.  If
you are interested in poking around in the environment to see what it feel
like, go ahead, that's why I set it up.  I disabled email registration, so
anyone can just create an account and get a feel for creating pages /
editing / preferences / etc...  Tonight, i'm going to hack at creating my
own skin, since it would just be cool :-)  I added the amsat logo to the
main page for testing, I hope this doesn't violate any copyright rules....
If it does, hollar and i'll remove it.

For the record, I have nothing to do with Amsat right now, outside of being
a first time member this year.  I also don't want anyone to think that i'm
pushing for media wiki or anything of the sort.  I just like the idea of
having a wiki.  I read the email thread and figured it'd be worthwhile to
set an instance up so Amsat folk could get familiar with it.  I have managed
two other wiki systems on my own, trac / moinmoin.  MediaWiki has quite a
bit to offer and is reasonably easy to configure.

Here's a link to the playground:

http://71.43.22.149/

Let me know if you have any comments or questions (or if you get any weird
behavior).

Joseph Armbruster, KJ4JIO
www.joevial.com



On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Alan VE4YZ <ve4yz at mts.net> wrote:

> Thanks for your comments Tim.   I'm accumulating some responses off-list in
> addition to what y'all can read here.  I don't want to go into solution
> mode
> at this early stage.  Your concern is valid and worst case is that the
> secure web e-commerce that AMSAT is now comfortable with would be linked to
> from any new platform.
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Tim - N3TL [mailto:n3tl at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: September 8, 2009 7:01 PM
> To: Alan VE4YZ; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
>
>
> Alan and all,
>
> Here's my 2 cents' worth - coming from someone who admittedly knows very
> little about the tools, skills and resources necessary to develop and
> maintain a Web site.
>
> Alan, you write: "It must include RSS, news feeds, and a forum in addition
> to all the stuff ( current or otherwise ) on the existing AMSAT site."
>
> How does the AMSAT store fit into this, and is it possible to "mix" a
> wiki-style "access for all" site with one that will include areas for the
> entry and transfer of secure, private information (e.g., credit card
> information for purchases)?
>
> I ask this because I don't know of another major nonprofit that uses a
> wiki-style site because of the need to incorporate an ecommerce site as
> part
> of the overall Web presence.
>
> My initial reaction to a Wiki approach is - no - for those reasons.
>
> I hope someone can provide more information here to me and everyone who
> reads the BB that might help mitigate my concerns. I further hope someone
> who is truly interested in mitigating the issues seemingly so many here
> have
> with the AMSAT Web site will attend the Board meeting in October to
> continue
> this kind of dialogue with the Board.
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Tim - N3TL
> Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Alan VE4YZ <ve4yz at mts.net>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 7:38:30 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
>
>
> IMHO fixing the existing site is not the answer.
>
> If the executives will okay the use of a Wiki format, I am sure that 3 or 4
> of us can communicate off list to set up a group to install and administer
> a
> Wiki on another server.
>
> We can call it The SIG ( Satellite Interest Group ) or whatever for now.
> Any and All AMSAT members can then be registered to maintain the Wiki.  If
> the members and executive like the results it can be migrated to the AMSAT
> server.  It must include RSS, news feeds, and a forum in addition to all
> the
> stuff ( current or otherwise ) on the existing AMSAT site.
>
> The cost to this 3 or 4 person ( or more ) "steering committee" would be
> the
> registration of a name and a year on a web hosting service such as GoDaddy
> what runs a similar server a AMSAT's host.  Or, use the AMSAT hosting
> company.  So this small group would have to come up with less than one
> year's AMSAT membership to start this project.
>
> We use an Open Source Wiki, no more customized PHP like the current site
> that is high maintenance and really hard for anyone to get into the head of
> any former code whacker to modify or update.
>
> We need the AMSAT exec okay because there would be a lot of cut 'n paste of
> old stuff from the existing site into the pilot project where is would be
> available for updating a la Wiki.
>
> I don't do this for a living, I do maintain a couple of club web sites, but
> I bet we have a member reading this who is a professional web-whacker who
> might oversee the team and keep us from making dumb decisions such as
> choosing the wrong open source wiki to being with.
>
> That's my 2 cents and just one warm body being offered for the effort.
>
> 73, Alan VE4YZ
> EN19kv
> AMSAT LM 2352
> http://www.wincube.ca
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> So who among you would like to volunteer to rewrite some of the articles
> and
> bring them up to date?
>
>
>
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