[amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered

[Andrew Rich]

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Andrew Rich
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Hershberger" <daleh at alaska.net>
To: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet at hotmail.com>; "amsat bbs" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Cc: "amsat bbs" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:21 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered


> Rocky Jones wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Noone is questioning whether the volunteers worked their butts off. 
>>> What
>>> we're talking about is that the AMSAT community (at least some, anyway) 
>>> have
>>> an expectation of performance equivalent to what would be provided by
>>> full-time paid staff.  Well, as long as it's volunteers only, that
>>> expectation is not reasonable (IMHO).
>>>
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>> "level of performance".
>>
>> No one at least in their right mind would expect a "volunteer" to equal 
>> the work through put of a paid employee...
>>
>> For example..in The Church of Christ (where I worship) any fool can get 
>> into the pulpit and preach...and the other hand the preacher is expected 
>> to have three sermons a week ready to go...
>>
>> But the volunteers need to have similar levels of competency in the tools 
>> being used as the Preacher or they should not be allowed into the pulpit 
>> in the first place.
>>
>> It is like tower climbing...I dont do it as fastl as the folks who 
>> professionally climb the 1000 footer that our clubs machine is on...but 
>> for the team that does it to get on the tower...we had to meet a minimium 
>> level of competency and demonstrate that.
>>
>> No matter how it is spun suitsat 1 was a failure.
>>
>> Good engineering standards would dictate figuring out the weak links and 
>> then correcting them trying something that perhaps was a bit more 
>> "sophisticated" but not all that much more...if for no other reason to 
>> make sure that the methods that defeat the failure are well understood.
>>
>> Instead what happened is that the "team" put together a project so 
>> complicated that they missed their free launch.
>>
>> I dont care how good the engineering is to miss a free launch is bad 
>> management.
>>
>> That reality seems to bite some folks
>>
>> Robert WB5MZO
>>
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> I really want to reply in good faith.  It is very difficult in light of
> the nature the tone of the way this thread is going.  I am a member of
> AMSAT and
> proud of it.  The organization is made up of volunteers.....Read
> Volunteers!   Things will go wrong.. When we have problems we  look for
> the weak points and focus
> on the corrections that can be made.
>
> What I do not understand is the persistent  bashing of the  BOD or
> managers of this non profit volunteer corporation.   We are not the
> Boeing, Lockheed or the USAF.
>
> If something is not going your way contact a board member and deal
> directly with them.
> The way this thread is going it is accomplishing nothing more then
> degrading or demeaning  the volunteer and contributing members of AMSAT.
> We have a lot of folks on this bb that have a lot of very good
> information to contribute to all.  I just am really disappointed
> to see some very talented folks carry this thread to the point where it
> turns others off.
>
> I do not expect a reply to this.  I just wanted to express my opinion
>
> Dale - KL7XJ
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