[amsat-bb] Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose

[Ted]

With all due respect Robert, I think this is a pipe dream. The current
global economy is in serious, serious shape. 'Private Enterprise' may indeed
get into the field but even private enterprise operates on cash. Playing
around in space is way down on the food chain in these conditions. NASA has
always been heavily funded by the government and the current administration
has zero interest in participating further. The Russians have the upper hand
and their gov't seems willing to spend...for now. I'll bet you dinner it
will be years before you see another amateur satellite overhead. 

Ted, K7TRK

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Greg.  well all I can say is that anyone who says that the US has "virtually
abandoned" crewed spaceflight is not up on current events.  What we are
doing is transitioning from a program of the military industrial complex to
one which centers on private enterprise...and that will open space access
for a lot of things.  And that will include amateur radio payloads.  In my
view the association between amateur radio and human spaceflight has hurt
amateur radio more then it has helped.  

Go read "The Revolution in Military Affairs"...and you will get the drift
Robert G. Oler WB5MZO Life member AMSAT ARRL NARS

> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:08:01 -0500
> From: w5ggw at cox.net
> To: orbitjet at hotmail.com
> CC: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk; amsat-bb at amsat.org; bruninga at usna.edu
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose
> 
> When these kinds of comments come up, I often wonder how many people
actually 
> understand how the US economy works.  I spend some time to put together
some 
> view points of how the FED is affecting what's happening and how the
"basis of 
> the FED" as a mechanism is not really working to manage the complexities
of our 
> economy.  There are things all over youtube.com which are records of
senate and 
> congressional committee sessions, historical videos, documentaries etc.
If you 
> are not really sure how the FED works and what all the "troubles" of the
economy 
> in the U.S. and the world (because many countries chose to tie themselves
to our 
> currency system), visible my Google+ post that I've put up and look around
at 
> some of the videos I've linked to.
> 
> https://plus.google.com/110612293771822302429/posts/eG6QC13kgv8
> 
> Gregg Wonderly
> W5GGW
> 
> On 8/5/2011 5:39 PM, R Oler wrote:
> >
> > Trevor...there is not a chance that is going to happen.  The US is on
the verge of a revolution in space affairs (to mimic Admiral Bill Owens) and
we are about to leave a technowelfare program and go into something truly
free enterprise.  Watch
> >
> > Robert G. Oler WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL NARS
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:04:09 +0100
> >> From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk
> >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; bruninga at usna.edu
> >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose
> >>
> >> Bob, Politicians are the same the world over.
> >>
> >> I note that some of your Politicians seem paranoid about the USA's
biggest trading partner, Beijing. I don't mind betting that in a few years
time your Politicians will be falling over themselves to vote billions of
tax dollars to the Space program to prevent the US falling into 3rd place
behind the Russian Federation and Beijing.
> >
> >>
> >> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 5/8/11, Bob Bruninga<bruninga at usna.edu>  wrote:
> >>>>> ,,,it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'. (no
> >>>>> ARRISat-1' listing). Will that eventually change?
> >>>
> >>> I chuckle.
> >>>
> >>> We in the USA have virtually abandoned manned space. We
> >>> have no manned space
> >>> flight vehicles because all we do is squabble with the
> >>> attention span of 2
> >>> year olds in our politics and long term outlooks.  All
> >>> our politicians do is
> >>> worry about their re-election in the next 2 years.
> >>> They cannot face the
> >>> really big issues that need to be solved without
> >>> jeopardizing their
> >>> re-election by the me-first, screw-them electorate.
> >>> The voters only have
> >>> the attention span from one radio talk show to the next.
> >>>
> >>> So since the Russians are now the only manned space program
> >>> that can provide
> >>> the ride, I guess they get to call it whatever they
> >>> want.  Our guys worked
> >>> VERY HARD to build it and deliver it against unbelieveable
> >>> pressures and
> >>> bureaucratic issues, but the only way to get it to ISS was
> >>> to give it to the
> >>> Russians.
> >>>
> >>> Sigh...
> >>> Bob, WB4APR
> >>
> >>
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