[amsat-bb] Re: 9 cubesats on board Vega

[Peter Guelzow]

Thanks Stefan,

I can only agree with what you say..

I hope to meet you one day in person...

best wishes
Peter, DB2OS



On 09.12.2011 22:34, Stefan Wagener wrote:
> Fair enough,
>
> No permanent damage done. I certainly respect the decisions made by
> AMSAT-DL to focus on P3E. It's a great satellite! Let's have us go
> back to building and launching satellites, the big ones and the small
> ones. I believe we are all on the same page and the more diverse the
> satellites are the better for all of us.
>
> Good luck with P3E!
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow at kourou.de> wrote:
>> Hi Stefan and all,
>>
>> First of all, English is not my mother language. Please apologize..
>>
>> Also I'm not a politician who thinks twice about what he is saying, in
>> particular if you have to give a talk under time pressure and not in you
>> native language. This is also "life".. I have to live with it..
>>
>> So it might be that I could be wrongly interpreted, in particular if someone
>> already has a strong bias in another direction.. there is always room for
>> false interpretations based on your own attitude.
>>
>> In my translation book "to denounce so" (denunciate the CubeSat community)
>> is a very crude word,  in particular if used in an false accusation which
>> was made.
>>
>> People have been killed because of this in the past!!
>>
>> So I felt it appropriate to reply in the way I did..
>>
>> If I misinterpreted your words and you did not mean it that way, I can only
>> apologize for saying you were “crude” and “blinded by rage” in your
>> interpretation of what I have said (or not said)...
>>
>> Unfortunately you ignored the rest of my Statements.
>>
>> On 09.12.2011 05:56, Stefan Wagener wrote:
>>
>> Now then, please help me and others understand your comments you made at
>> AMSAT-UK (listed below): "The amateur community in general is not interested
>> in Cubesats, "I know some of you might not like to hear that "It might sound
>> like a high nose attitude, but it is life "Those that have done P3
>> satellites have no interest in Cubesats If those statements, which by the
>> way come directly from the AMSAT-UK video of your presentation
>>
>>
>> I do not read anywhere that I or AMSAT-DL is denouncing the CubeSats (or the
>> CubeSat community) ??
>>
>> I can not speak for the whole amateur community in general, but only for the
>> AMSAT-DL membership and a lot of them had the luck to experiences satellites
>> like P3-B (AO-10), P3-C (AO-13) and P3-D AO-40).
>>
>> What is so wrong with our membership favoring another P3-E over a CubeSat?
>>
>> Who was it who called those P3-E supporters being from or living in the past
>> century and of high nosed attitude?
>>
>> Our membership is favor in finishing P3-E and getting it launched.  Thus we
>> are concentrating in getting enough funding to finish and launch it.  We
>> even have to go “out of the ordinary” ways to achieve this goal and beyond.
>> This is not easy, we never told it would be easy.. I agree, we could have
>> chosen an simpler way.
>>
>> One of the good things of Amateur Radio is it's so-called Ham Spirit and the
>> many facets our hobby has.
>>
>> So why not let one group doing THIS and the other doing THAT !?!?
>>
>> If someone within the AMSAT-DL community comes up with a good idea, if he
>> thinks can raise money for it and if he is willing to actively work on it,
>> why should I or the AMSAT-DL membership refuse him?
>>
>> Well, I suggest to read my previous mail without the mentioned words, so
>> that I don't have to repeat it again and again..
>>
>> Sorry for the rest of you folks... "Ich habe fertig..."
>> I hope to have some better news soon :-)
>>
>> 73s Peter DB2OS
>>