[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs

Jeff Yanko wb3jfs at cox.net
Mon Jan 24 15:47:01 PST 2011


Hi John,

At 16 cents per QSO LoTW VUCC fee is more affordable than what we are 
currently doing.  Let me explain.  Let's say you make 100 QSO's with 100 
grids.  Instead of sending out QSLs with SASE's at a total of 88 cents a 
piece, 44 cents to send and 44 cents for return, one QSO will cost you 16 
cents. Period.  So requesting QSL's via the P.O will cost you $88.  A 
confirmation of the same 100 grids via LoTW will cost you $16.  A savings of 
$72.  Big difference.  Now, the big problem.  Getting those who operate the 
birds to upload their logs to LoTW.  It won't work unless most participate, 
that's the sad part.


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg at fidmail.com>
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs at cox.net>; "Amsat-Bb at Amsat. Org" 
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs


> Even at the 16 cent a QSO LOTW fee that sure is a jump up in price from 
> what it used to be.  I am afraid I won't be able to afford many 
> endorsements. maybe AMSAT can offer their own version of a satellite VUCC.
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs at cox.net>
> To: "John Geiger" <aa5jg at fidmail.com>; <mlolmsted at fuse.net>; 
> "Amsat-Bb at Amsat. Org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; "'VHF REFLECTOR'" 
> <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs
>
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> It's funny how HQ never came out and stated there would be new fees 
>> beginning of the new year.  Then again why would you want to scare away 
>> potential customers?  In any case, I finally took my cards over to the 
>> local card checker to have him verify them for VUCC Satellite.  My cost? 
>> $47.40. I understand it's a one time deal for the initial application, 
>> which this was, and there costs involved.  Just the 20 cent per QSO fee 
>> cost me $27.40 alone.  That's more than the award cost itself.  Actually, 
>> more than twice of what the award cost.  Doesn't make any economical or 
>> logical sense if you ask me.  I don't believe I'll be doing many, if any, 
>> endorsements of VUCC at the current fees level.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jeff  WB3JFS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg at fidmail.com>
>> To: <mlolmsted at fuse.net>; "Amsat-Bb at Amsat. Org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; 
>> "'VHF REFLECTOR'" <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu>
>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:07 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs
>>
>>
>>>I WAS going to get an endorsement for my satellite and six meter VUCCs, 
>>>but
>>> given that it would cost me around 35 dollars each to get an endorsement 
>>> for
>>> an extra 150 grids, I don't think so. Hope this new insane fee schedule
>>> doesn't kill VUCC submissions.  I think AMSAT awards will be getting 
>>> much
>>> more popular.
>>>
>>> 73s John AA5JG
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <mlolmsted at fuse.net>
>>> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:25 PM
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nice explanation of the costs for VUCC in the Jeff Yanko blog. However, 
>>>> I
>>>> did
>>>> not see what happens with LOTW submisions.
>>>>
>>>> If the cost of awards keep going up, maybe the ARRL should offer award
>>>> insurance
>>>> as well as equipment insurance.  Just a thought.  :>)
>>>>
>>>> Merle, AA4QE
>>>>
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