[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

[Joe]

On 6/28/2011 12:19 AM, Art McBride wrote:
> K6YK,
> FD has always been a mess,
{snip}
> I think more operators would work the linear transponder satellites if
> better equipment was available. The stuff from the big three in Japan does
> not give the user what they need.
>
> Art,
> KC6UQH
I beg to differ here, A real bird enthusiast equipment would not be a 
reason for not getting on.  I became active in the mid 70's on the 
Oscars of those days in Mode A.

Station?

Novice HF station, Old Drake TR-4 tranciever for the 10 meter receive. 
no pre amps or nothing fed with radio shack RG-58 about 100 feet of it,  
(maybe a few DB loss there?)
10 meter ant?  10 meter dipole up about 20 feet on my roof.

2 Meter Transmitter?  I honestly can not remember what it was.  I just 
remember it was a VFO controlled AM only transciever that ran like 5 
watts on AM output.  We simply disconnected the Mic. and added a 
straight Key to the PTT line and had a blast on the Birds.  Worked like 
30 to 40 sates with that set up.

So fancy state of the art equipment from Japan is Not needed.

Joe WB9SBD
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of k6yk
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:02 PM
> To: gordonjcp at gjcp.net
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
>
>
> FD is a mess every year. No matter what bird(s) you try.
>
> Most of the FD stations have no clue about satellites, they just get
> the idea they need to make 1 satellite contact or as many as they can.
> They don't know about all the rules particular to AMSAT, and they
> dont' care.
>
> They ask somebody what frequency to transmit and listen on and then
> they get their 500 watt amp, big beam or no beam, no preamp, and
> start calling and calling. They don't hear anything so they just mess up
> the
> whole works.  Happens every year.
>
> You either have to bear with it and make your one contact or give up.
>
> 73,
> K6YK
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:33:34 +0100 Gordon JC Pearce<gordonjcp at gjcp.net>
> writes:
>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:48:48 -0500
>> Patrick Green<pagreen at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> The ARRL should impose an ERP limit for satellite contacts.  That
>>> would solve the problem.  I don't see how running amplifiers on FD
>> is
>>> in the spirit of what FD is all about.  I've made contacts using
>> 50 mw
>>> so why do stations use 100+ watts *before* the antenna..  I
>> wouldn't
>>> want my kids playing around a FD site with this time of setup.
>> Wouldn't that be AMSAT's job?  It's certainly possible to work an FM
>> bird with 5W from a handie, and a hand-held yagi.
>>
>> I don't understand the obsession with having all-singing-all-dancing
>> computer-controlled setups, where it automatically updates its
>> orbital elements, automatically calculates when the next pass is,
>> automatically calculates where to steer the aerial and what to tune
>> the radio to and leaving the operator to just push the PTT and shout
>> over the top of the QRP/P stations.
>>
>> All the computer-controlled stuff just plain isn't amateur radio.
>> If you want to sit in front of a computer and talk to people, use
>> Skype.
>>
>> Gordon MM0YEQ
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