[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 6, Issue 631

Fri Nov 18 20:27:14 PST 2011

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>   1. Re: simplest USB rotor interface (H. Vordenbaum)
>   2. Ao-51 at 2100z today (ryan woods)
>   3. Re: Ao-51 at 2100z today (Clint Bradford)
>   4. Re: Ao-51 at 2100z today (Rick Tejera)
>   5.  Re: simplest USB rotor interface (Thomas Doyle)
>   6. Re: simplest USB rotor interface (Stefan Wagener)
>   7. AO-27 questions -- so why the silence. (Tom Schuessler)
>   8. Re: ARISSat-1 (37772) decay (Nico Janssen)
>   9. Re: AO-27 questions -- so why the silence. (Andrew Glasbrenner)
>  10. Re: Fwd: Mystery of the Lunar Ionosphere (Tony Langdon)
>  11. HR3288 Bill to Reduce ITAR Restrictions on Commercial
>      Satellites (JoAnne Maenpaa)
>  12. ChubuSat-1 (Trevor .)
>  13. Re: ChubuSat-1 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
>  14. Grid Squares (n0jy at lavabit.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:51:46 -0600
> From: "H. Vordenbaum" <tower2 at stx.rr.com>
> To: "Wayne Estes" <w9ae at charter.net>, <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: simplest USB rotor interface
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> The LVB Tracker is small.  The switch buttons are for calibration mainly.
> The switches on the G-5400/G-5500 can be used for manual control.  With 
> the
> USB interface you don't need to fool with another serial port.
> 73, Harvey
> K5HV
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wayne Estes" <w9ae at charter.net>
> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:27 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] simplest USB rotor interface
>
>
>> As an AMSAT Area Coordinator, I occasionally get questions about rotor
>> interfaces.  So I need to become better informed about the interface
>> options.
>>
>> I'm well aware of the LVBtracker, but to me it seems to be overkill for
>> the intended purpose.  It's not necessary for a rotor interface to have a
>> big box, display, and control switches.  The interface really only needs
>> to contain A/D and D/A converters.  All displays and controls can be
>> implemented "virtually" on the computer's screen.
>>
>> Is there a simple and cheap USB interface for the G-5500 rotor? Something
>> small and simple like FODtrack, but with a USB port?
>> I'm aware of WinRotor USB, but nobody in North America seems to use it.
>>
>> Wayne Estes W9AE
>> Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:19:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: ryan woods <kd8atf at yahoo.com>
> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao-51 at 2100z today
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> Well this was the first time for me to work any satellites in a really 
> long time just wanted to day AO-51 still sounds great and i hope it stays 
> that way for a long time. Im running a wouxon ht to an arrow on a tripod 
> it works good but not as well at my th-d7a. Anyway just want to get some 
> input while im writing this....... I am always portable when im on the 
> birds and can never really get my logging down so just wanted to know
> How everyone else goes about it?......... Thanks in advance
>
> 73 de KD8ATF
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
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>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:01:46 -0800
> From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net>
> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ao-51 at 2100z today
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>>> ... how do you all write down callsigns?
>
> I am not sure what your problem is. I mean ...
>
> -one hand for the Yagi
> -one hand for the radio
> -one hand for the speaker-mic
> -one hand for the clipboard
> -one hand for the pencil
> -one hand for the tall glass of iced tea
> -one hand for your smartphone with its satellite tracking program running
>
> (grin)
>
> I will sometimes use a smartphone voice recorder app to record passes, for 
> later review. In a shirt pocket,
> to free up my other six hands.
>
> Additionally, I have built a little tray wide enough to accommodate my HT 
> on the boom of my Yagi. Helps
> free another hand, as well as "counter-balancing" the front-heavy antenna. 
> Photos at ...
>
> http://web.me.com/clintbradford/k6lcs/Photos/Photos.html
>
> ... and ...
>
> http://web.me.com/clintbradford/Work-Sat/My_Gear.html
>
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:37:46 -0700
> From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro at cox.net>
> To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net>, "'AMSAT BB'"
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ao-51 at 2100z today
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> Not having as many hands as Clint, I use a y chord on the receive Cable 
> from
> my headset to a small digital voice recorder. I still write the calls down
> on a log I created, since I'll forget at least half of it by the time I'm
> ready to key up :)
>
> After the pass I play the recording and get the time of the QSO by adding
> the elapsed time to the start of the pass.
>
> Clear Skies
>
> Rick Tejera
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> Phoenix, Arizona
> www.saguaroastro.org
> saguaroastro at cox.net
> K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
> Behalf Of Clint Bradford
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 15:02
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ao-51 at 2100z today
>
>>> ... how do you all write down callsigns?
>
> I am not sure what your problem is. I mean ...
>
> -one hand for the Yagi
> -one hand for the radio
> -one hand for the speaker-mic
> -one hand for the clipboard
> -one hand for the pencil
> -one hand for the tall glass of iced tea
> -one hand for your smartphone with its satellite tracking program running
>
> (grin)
>
> I will sometimes use a smartphone voice recorder app to record passes, for
> later review. In a shirt pocket,
> to free up my other six hands.
>
> Additionally, I have built a little tray wide enough to accommodate my HT 
> on
> the boom of my Yagi. Helps
> free another hand, as well as "counter-balancing" the front-heavy antenna.
> Photos at ...
>
> http://web.me.com/clintbradford/k6lcs/Photos/Photos.html
>
> ... and ...
>
> http://web.me.com/clintbradford/Work-Sat/My_Gear.html
>
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> http://www.work-sat.com
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:59:56 -0600
> From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Re: simplest USB rotor interface
> Message-ID:
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>
> The saebrtrack from AMSATs own  Mark Hammond is probably the best
> documented DIY board. The processor is a bit expensive and slow but the 
> one
> I built does work.
> I had a FoxDelta ST3 for a while but had problems with it right from the
> start. I was able to return it without any trouble. It is probably the 
> best
> deal out there. The easiest part of building your own is the software. The
> program does not do much so it is straightforward and easy to write. An 
> lcd
> display of some type is invaluable in troubleshooting but you can use a
> terminal emulation program on a computer for set up. The buttons are not
> needed if you have a G5500. The case and cables are the most work.
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/marklhammond/saebrtrack
>
> The LVB Tracker from AMSAT is great in that you can "have it your way". 
> Buy
> only what you need from a bare board to a completed unit. It is also a 
> nice
> way to help out AMSAT.
>
> http://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Hardware
>
> Sent from my computer.
>
> 73 W9KE tom ...
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:26:14 -0600
> From: Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
> To: Wayne Estes <w9ae at charter.net>
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: simplest USB rotor interface
> Message-ID:
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>
> Take a look at:
>
> http://easy-rotor-control.com/
>
> Something for every taste and budget.
>
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Wayne Estes <w9ae at charter.net> wrote:
>> As an AMSAT Area Coordinator, I occasionally get questions about rotor
>> interfaces. ?So I need to become better informed about the interface
>> options.
>>
>> I'm well aware of the LVBtracker, but to me it seems to be overkill for 
>> the
>> intended purpose. ?It's not necessary for a rotor interface to have a big
>> box, display, and control switches. ?The interface really only needs to
>> contain A/D and D/A converters. ?All displays and controls can be
>> implemented "virtually" on the computer's screen.
>>
>> Is there a simple and cheap USB interface for the G-5500 rotor? Something
>> small and simple like FODtrack, but with a USB port?
>> I'm aware of WinRotor USB, but nobody in North America seems to use it.
>>
>> Wayne Estes W9AE
>> Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:48:16 -0600
> From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler at verizon.net>
> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 questions -- so why the silence.
> Message-ID: <008601cca5f8$b9362e70$2ba28b50$@net>
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>
> Several weeks ago I posted a question about the status of the AO-27 web 
> site
> and the TOPR scheduling for that satellite.  Recently Clint Bradford K6LCS
> posed a similar question and got really no relevant response.  Can someone
> from AMSAT (or AMRAD) leadership give some insight into the state of that
> program and whether the turn on schedule is still running on times 
> predicted
> via the AO-27 Scheduler program which cannot receive updates because of 
> the
> lack of the ao27.org site.
>
> Please, no crickets chirping.  Be nice to have an explanation or guidance.
>
> Thanks, 73 and see you on the birds.
>
> Tom Schuessler N5HYP
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:05:57 +0100
> From: Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 (37772) decay
> Message-ID: <4EC66645.9080808 at xs4all.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi,
>
> So far all my analyses of the evolution of the orbit of ARISSat 1
> have resulted in a predicted decay date sometime in December 2011.
> Actually my current predicted decay date for this satellite is
> December 17. Obviously it depends very much on how solar activity
> develops in the coming weeks.
>
> So now we have seen decay predictions ranging from December 2011
> to April 2012. Let's see how we converge to the actual decay date.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
> On 2011-11-16 20:28, Fabio Azzarello wrote:
>> Hello Everybody,
>> I totally agree with you James... the process is a continuous evolution.
>>
>> I did my prediction on October 6th for the "Chicken Little Competition" 
>> and
>> my date was January 23rd 2012.
>>
>> It surprisingly agrees with your prediction done almost one month later,
>> this make me think that my assumptions were right, up to now at least.
>>
>>
>> 73s
>> Fabio
>> IW8QKU/5
>>
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Thanks for the update on your AMSAT Journal article.
>> There are several people on the bb who are following this topic and are
>> busy
>> plotting data.
>> Any futher thoughts you have, as we move towards January would, I am sure
>> be of
>> interest.
>>
>> 73 John G7HIA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DeYoung James<deyoung_james at yahoo.com>
>> To: amsat-bb<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 15 November, 2011 17:29:31
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 (37772) decay
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> First, thank you Mineo for reading the AMSAT Journal and making several 
>> of
>> my
>> papers available
>> on your web site.
>> My AMSAT Journal
>> paper published in the March/April 2011 issue is actually still fairly 
>> valid
>> for the scenarios shown in the paper. The solar flux has turned out to be
>> somewhat higher than was used/predicted in the paper. This has caused the
>> atmospheric densities to be higher which results in higher decay rates.
>> When I
>> wrote the paper I had this nagging feeling that stopping the
>> release height
>> scenarios at 370-km was not going to be high enough. We are very 
>> fortunate
>> that
>> the ISS was boosted to such a height before release of ARISSat-1 and not
>> after
>> release!
>>
>> There is a
>> valuable lesson, I think, to be made with respect to predicting satellite
>> decay
>> dates far into the future. The future state of the atmosphere, i.e. the
>> atmospheric density that the satellite will pass through is poorly
>> predictable
>> in the long-term, say starting greater than a week or two into the 
>> future.
>> Predictions of satellite decay dates months in the future should be
>> evaluated with the understanding that your date of prediction errors may 
>> be
>> large. The errors
>> are due to the future uncertainties of the orbital path which
>> grow quickly with time in a prediction. The atmospheric density is not 
>> the
>> only
>> source of error. Your orbit model, the integrator, and the accounting of
>> the
>> gravitational and
>> drag forces among others will affect your results.
>> Predictions of
>> satellite decay dates are not do-and-forget. The general process is to 
>> make
>> a
>> prediction, get new measured observations of the height in the future, 
>> and
>> at
>> some point re-do your prediction when the errors become significant to 
>> you.
>> With that all
>> said here is my current prediction using the same tools used in the AMSAT 
>> J.
>> paper and produced as of 2011 November 13th. The decay of ARISSat-1 
>> (37772)
>> will happen nominally on 2012 January 30th with a 10% rule-of-thumb error
>> allowance of 18 days around this date. The
>> errors may be larger than the rule-of-thumb indicates!
>> Jim, N8OQ
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:31:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
> To: Tom Schuessler <tjschuessler at verizon.net>, amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 questions -- so why the silence.
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>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Just for the record, AO-27 is not an AMSAT bird, and AMSAT has no input or 
> inside track into what goes on with the satellite. I know who the command 
> stations are, but as long as the birds running, there really isn't IMO 
> much reason to bug them.
>
>>From my observations and experience, you really don't need a scheduler to 
>>work AO-27. It's neat, but superfluous. Right now the satellite is turning 
>>on a little further south than normal, somewhere around 25 degrees 
>>latitude. This drifts just a tad earlier/further south each day, until one 
>>of the command stations resets it. So, if you listen to a pass, note when 
>>and where it turns on, and now you know where and when to look tomorrow 
>>and even next week.
>
> Keeping a satellite running is a lot of work, and I can only imagine it's 
> tedious after 18 years. Webpages and widgets come second after that.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Tom Schuessler <tjschuessler at verizon.net>
>>Sent: Nov 18, 2011 8:48 AM
>>To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 questions -- so why the silence.
>>
>>Several weeks ago I posted a question about the status of the AO-27 web 
>>site
>>and the TOPR scheduling for that satellite.  Recently Clint Bradford K6LCS
>>posed a similar question and got really no relevant response.  Can someone
>>from AMSAT (or AMRAD) leadership give some insight into the state of that
>>program and whether the turn on schedule is still running on times 
>>predicted
>>via the AO-27 Scheduler program which cannot receive updates because of 
>>the
>>lack of the ao27.org site.
>>
>>Please, no crickets chirping.  Be nice to have an explanation or guidance.
>>
>>Thanks, 73 and see you on the birds.
>>
>>Tom Schuessler N5HYP
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:23:23 +1100
> From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed at gmail.com>
> To: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca>, amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Cc: eu-amsat at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Mystery of the Lunar Ionosphere
> Message-ID: <4ec57b57.09b5e00a.192e.ffffa865 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> At 07:59 PM 11/17/2011, Luc Leblanc wrote:\
>
>>I just got a flash is it possible the moon bounce signal where
>>reflected on this "ionosphere" instead of the moon surface or both or is 
>>it
>>the moon libration signal often reported by moon bouncer a kind of
>>signal mix the one reflected over the surface and the one reflected by
>>the ionosphere back to the moon surface working against each other?
>
> This could be one of many interesting questions to try and answer. :)
>
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:03:36 -0600
> From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm at comcast.net>
> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] HR3288 Bill to Reduce ITAR Restrictions on
> Commercial Satellites
> Message-ID: <001d01cca614$03cb3eb0$0b61bc10$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I found out about H.R. 3288: Safeguarding United States Satellite 
> Leadership
> and Security Act of 2011 via an article posted at UniverseToday.com
> (http://tinyurl.com/6r3nb4m).
>
> HR3288 proposes to reduce ITAR restrictions on commercial satellite
> development. I found additional information, including a link to the text 
> of
> the bill, list of the co-sponsors, and a progress-tracking overview posted
> at:
> http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-3288
>
> Perhaps something good will come out of congress. I now have something
> constructive to write to my congresscritters about instead of messages
> counting the days to the next election.
>
> Hopefully it bodes well for amateur satellite projects worldwide.
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:11:50 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "Trevor ." <m5aka at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ChubuSat-1
> Message-ID:
> <1321643510.46353.YahooMailClassic at web27204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Google English article on ChubuSat-1, launch 2012-13, carries a V/U 
> configuration using AX25, see
>
> http://tinyurl.com/CubuSat1Article
>
> See also ChubuSat-1 on IARU satellite pages at
> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=199
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:37:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
> To: "Trevor ." <m5aka at yahoo.co.uk>, amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ChubuSat-1
> Message-ID:
> <7790483.1321645073377.JavaMail.root at mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> 50kg! to SSO? I hope they manage to get a repeater or transponder on there 
> along with whatever digital relay it looks like they are planning. It 
> might be a good opportunity for a PE1RAH transponder, or the L/U repeater 
> AMSAT-OZ was developing!
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: "Trevor ." <m5aka at yahoo.co.uk>
>>Sent: Nov 18, 2011 2:11 PM
>>To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>Subject: [amsat-bb] ChubuSat-1
>>
>>Google English article on ChubuSat-1, launch 2012-13, carries a V/U 
>>configuration using AX25, see
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/CubuSat1Article
>>
>>See also ChubuSat-1 on IARU satellite pages at
>>http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=199
>>
>>73 Trevor M5AKA
>>
>>
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> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:57:56 -0600 (CST)
> From: n0jy at lavabit.com
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> Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Squares
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> Does anyone know of an application for a Blackberry phone that will take
> the Blackberry GPS location and convert it to the grid square?
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> Jerry
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