[amsat-bb] Re: There's no usable satellites

[Michael Schulz]

So what happened to HO68? Any news? Would be great to have that bird back.

Cheers,
Mike

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On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Ted wrote:

> Alan, comments well stated and  I agree with you but its kind of just part
> of the human condition. I have seen the same attitudes in r/c planes clubs,
> r/c boat clubs, gun clubs, sports car clubs, etc. There always seems to be a
> group of the 'old guard' who would complain if you hung them with a new
> rope. Then there is a group at the other end of the spectrum that have a
> better way (at least in their minds) of doing things. Then there is the core
> group who just wait out the battle and things return to sanity.
> 
> This thread soon will pass and someone will ask "what happened to HO68..."
> and away we go again.
> 
> 73, Ted, K7TRK
> Proud No Code Appliance Operator and Ham Radio Hobbyist
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
> Behalf Of Alan Cresswell
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:10 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: There's no usable satellites
> 
> Unfortunately it seems that this sort of posting has become almost the norm
> on this bb.  The attitude that my way is the only way and your way is a load
> of rubbish and to prove it I will produce caricature of your way which shows
> how simple minded you are.
> So those who operate computer controlled stations buy everything and have
> apparently never built anything in their lives.
> Cubesats become beepsats which are poorly built and never operate in orbit
> and the builders don't care.
> FMsats are the realm of poor operators and the linear sats are the only way
> to go.
> LEO,s are a waste of time and HEO is all that matters.  etc. etc.
> 
> I am old enough to remember when there was such a thing as "The Amateurs
> Code".  Article 4 stated that "Kindly assistance, cooperation and
> consideration for the interests of others; these are the marks of the
> amateur spirit." Presumably written at a time when diversity of interests
> was celebrated and not denigrated. 
> Oh well, I guess I am just living in the past.
> 
> 73
> Alan
> ZL2BX
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
> Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
> Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 16:29
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: There's no usable satellites
> 
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:47:00 -0500
> John Becker <w0jab at big-river.net> wrote:
> 
>> I got to agree with you.
>> 
>> The FM sat's in my option is near useless with all the 
>> "using them famous words of the late W2OY"
>> Just way to many "kids, lids and space cadets "
>> Standing in their back yard on a FM HT.
> 
> Standing in your back yard with an FM handie and a homebrew antenna is a
> great way to communicate, and I'd recommend it to anyone.  It takes skill to
> build a decent aerial, build a diplexer, set it all up and work out where to
> point.  These are skills that anyone can learn, if they choose to.  Where's
> the skill in the "armchair copy" computer-controlled stuff?  You buy some
> aerials, buy the brackets, buy a rotator, buy a CAT cable, buy some
> proprietary software to drive it, and then plug it together.  If you can
> wave a credit card and click through the install wizard, you're on the air.
> 
>> Pass after pass it seems to always to be the same people.
> 
> Yup, it's nice being able to catch up with friends in another country,
> quickly and easily.
> 
>> Sure do (still) miss AO-40....
> 
> If you want to sit in front of your computer and have it steer the aerial
> and do all the tuning, then that's great.  You could get the same effect by
> using Skype.
> 
> I honestly cannot see the attraction in HEO satellites, and I *am* old
> enough to have experienced them when they were working.  Maybe there's
> something subtle I'm missing, I don't know.  I just don't get it.
> 
> -- 
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp at gjcp.net>
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