[amsat-bb] Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin

[Dave Guimont]

Yes, Dom, Peter, Jo Anne, and all the other good guys out there:

Jo Anne send me the form for the 40 dollar pin, and I'm sending $40 
also to the DL website....

Come on guys, these contributions are making donations to help 
educate the children of the WORLD help make better decisions about 
our WORLD.....ESA is doing something about it, and if we make enough 
noise perhaps we can convince our politicos in the USA to do 
something with the money besides spend it on campaign posters the way 
they are doing today.

Off MY soapbox, and hoping to generate a few bucks

73 and a good weekend to all

Dave in sunny San Diego
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm at comcast.net>
>To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:12 AM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
>
> > AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
> > ANS-041 Special Bulletin
> >
> > SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-041.01
> > ANS-041 AMSAT Fox-1 Cubesat Selected for NASA ELaNa Launch Collaboration
> >
> > AMSAT News Service Bulletin 041.01
> > From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
> > February 10, 2012
> > To All RADIO AMATEURS
> > BID: $ANS-041.01
> >
>  >  < snip>
> >
> > + Return the form sent with the letter to reply with your donation
> >  for the Fox-1 Project.
> >  - All donations over $40 will receive a Fox pin.
> >  - Donations of $120 or more qualify you for AMSAT President's Club
>
>I invite All to donate the maximum as possible only to AMSAT-DL for
>P3E because AMSAT-NA before the launch of OSCAR-10 promised to
>the Radio Amateur Community to communicate by satellite much better
>than in HF.........Where actually the Amateur Satellite Service have gone ?
>
>I pull only for AMSAT-DL and P3E because looking to the AMSAT-NA
>projects for a HEO at this time, before AO40 died I invested a lot of money
>in my HEO satellite station for nothing.
>
>I trust only on P3E because the AMSAT-DL President DB2OS,Peter
>Guelzow on 29 JAN 2012 writes on this AMSAT-BB the following
>message:
>
>"Indeed all money donated to the P3-E project goes into the P3-E project
>and we are grateful for all those direct contributions and support in
>particular from many individual AMSAT-NA members and indeed many other
>hams from around the world. Due to ITAR, unfortunatly AMSAT-NA had to
>stop all it's official support (including money, which hurts) for P3-E
>several years ago, as you wrote.. For example, we had to re-build and
>continue the IHU hardware and software development on our own resources.
>The same for the original SDX development, etc. The S/C is still
>sitting in our clean room in Marburg and waiting to be finalized. Having
>no firm launch date yet, activities slowed down in some areas, while
>other activities and groups are highly active and well alive. The
>biggest problem is indeed having no firm launch date yet.. this is
>frustration for everyone involved. We all put so much volunteer work and
>time into it...
>
>When I read "Forget P3-E, build an MEO" (that's how I read it first) I
>was indeed very concerned.. should we really forget all the hard work,
>time and money which already went into the project and scrap it???  And
>what than?   No - I'm not giving up...
>
>OK, reading the second time I understood that Dave meant we should put
>P3-E on VEGA and use it's propulsion to go to MEO...
>
>Unfortunately things are not so easy.. P3-E was designed to go from GTO
>into HEO. For example, all the magnetic attitude control won't work in
>MEO anymore, etc..   Thus we were looking for GTO, but would it fit on
>VEGA? Indeed, we could try an elliptical orbit with a much lower
>apogee, but than we have to carefully study the effects of orbit
>resonances which caused AO-13 to burn-up too soon.  However, I do
>sympathize with the idea and we thought about it in the past, but
>discarded the idea for reasons I have almost forgotten now.   So,
>perhaps we should look again at it.. do some orbit and fuel
>calculation, study orbit perturbations and orbit stability again and see
>what the impact will be on the S/C design.   Any volunteers for that?
>
>As Nitin wrote, we contacted AMSAT-India to help with contacts to
>ISRO, we are in contact with SpaceX and I recently had a personal
>letter exchange with the CEO of Arianespace. If a launch possibility
>arises, we will be on it.  It is not always a matter of money, but also
>a matter of compatibility to slip in. Ariane-5 for example is a real
>workhorse now with standard launch configurations. Any change on that
>costs them a lot of money. If there is an "unusual" configuration were
>they have to ask industry for a configuration change, than it might also
>be easier for us to slip in..
>That simply means we have to wait for the right moment or finding new
>qualification flight.. Ariane 5ME is such opportunity we are actively
>working on, but this will not be before 2018.
>
>In the last several month our work and priority was mostly focused
>regarding our funding situation and to improve it. Although most people
>still did not understand it, but the P5-A project is one these
>opportunity we need. It is well alive and currently heavily discussed
>within the highest ranks inside of our government organizations.  Apart
>from this, we are currently working on another project to fly an hosted
>payload on a GEO satellite... A decision is not made yet, but if we get
>the opportunity it will provide some neat communication capabilities.
>Our previous heritage and P5 will help here too.."
>
>73s Peter DB2OS
>
>Hello Peter.......be sure that all of us with experience from OSCAR-10
>to AO40 are pulling for P3E......go-ahead ! !
>
>73" de
>
>i8CVS Domenico



            73, Dave, WB6LLO
                dguimon1 at san.rr.com

                    Disagree: I learn....

               Pulling for P3E...