[amsat-bb] Re: Newbie needs advice on which transceiver to get

Fri Aug 2 21:31:44 PDT 2013

To each his own.

I have worked 100's of passes from the road with an Icom 910 and an Arrow
in the past year.  I find it the cleaner solution albeit a bit more
expensive than two all mode radios.   It's not exactly handheld but with
the carry handle I can easily move it from its foam carry box to the roof
or trunk lid.

Every time I try to go with a two radio solution (typically a Yaesu FT-817
and FT-100/857) for portable Arrow work,  I'm drawn back to a single radio
solution for simplicity.  If I'm packing light and the IC-910 is ruled
out,  a single FT-817 does the trick.

As we all draw from our personal experiences when making recommendations, I
will suggest :

Yaesu FT-817 for the traveler, adventurer, and experimenter.

Icom IC-910 for the person willing to take a shack-sized rig outdoors on
occasion.

Both are paired well with an Arrow.  The nice thing about starting with an
FT-817 is the ability to travel with a small wire dipole to play HF. In my
satellite bag I normally carry a 20m end fed wire to kill time between
passes.

73
Clayton
W5PFG
On Aug 2, 2013 10:05 PM, "Stefan Wagener" <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:

> Now, keep in mind folks, Oscar bought an arrow antenna, not a cross yagi or
> dish or whatever else including rotor. He has small portable antenna for
> the great outdoors!
>
> Hooking up an IC910, IC9100, FT847, TS2000 or whatever else which is
> primary a stationary rig is overkill. He needs a good cross-band HT or one
> of the mobile rigs. Also SatPC32 is not working on the balcony or in the
> front yard unless he drags out the computer and the power cables and the
> table and so on and on and on. He needs a handheld solution, software for a
> mobile phone or tablet for his arrow not a stationary equipment list.
>
> 2 cents worth,
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No problem Angelo.  The point was not the quirks and deficiencies, which
> > the FT-847 and IC-910 have as
> > well, but at what point to go into the details.  Sometimes the "data
> dump"
> > which we oldsters can
> > generate can be a bit much!  :)
> >
> > 73s,
> >
> > Alan
> > WA4SCA
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
> > Behalf Of Angelo Glorioso
> > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:40 PM
> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie needs advice on which transceiver to get
> >
> > OPS!!!!!
> >
> > THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRIVATE.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Angelo Glorioso" <n5uxt at hotmail.com>
> > To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:07 PM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie needs advice on which transceiver to get
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alan,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply. I usually don't reply to many emails here, but I
> > > feel
> > > this was necessary. I bare to disagree with you Alan. If I would have
> > > known
> > > the rig had a birdie right on the downlink frequency of two of the most
> > > popular
> > > fm birds,  I would not have purchased the rig years ago. Making a
> > > statement of a "few quirks" does not give a person a fair assessment of
> > > the
> > > rig. I just feel it is a very important fact.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Angelo / N5UXT
> > >
> > >
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Alan" <wa4sca at gmail.com>
> > >> To: "'Angelo Glorioso'" <n5uxt at hotmail.com>
> > >> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 2:14 PM
> > >> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie needs advice on which transceiver
> to
> > >> get
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Angelo,
> > >>>
> > >>>>>rig it does have a few quirks.
> > >>>
> > >>> There was no need to bury him with details.
> > >>>
> > >>> Alan
> > >>> WA4SCA
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org]
> > On
> > >>> Behalf Of Angelo Glorioso
> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:34 AM
> > >>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie needs advice on which transceiver to
> get
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Oscar and Alan,
> > >>>
> > >>> Please be aware of the birdie right on the downlink of SO50. This is
> an
> > >>> internal birdie. I think it is very important to pass this on. It
> will
> > >>> affect AO27 also if it comes back to life or any
> > >>> satellite that uses 436.800 as a downlink.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 73 de Angelo
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Alan" <wa4sca at gmail.com>
> > >>> To: "'Oscar Ortega'" <oscaro at mindspring.com>; <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:07 AM
> > >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie needs advice on which transceiver to
> get
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi Oscar,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Call?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any of those should work fine, and you should include the Kenwood
> > >>>> TS-2000
> > >>>> in your search list.  It is
> > >>>> still in production, and well thought of, though like nearly every
> > >>>> other
> > >>>> rig it does have a few
> > >>>> quirks.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The FT-847 is still a great rig, and is usually snapped up whenever
> a
> > >>>> good
> > >>>> used one becomes available.
> > >>>> The first batch had "write only" CAT control, with all of the
> > following
> > >>>> ones having bidirectional
> > >>>> capability which is needed for modern control programs such as
> > SatPC32.
> > >>>> Many of the first ones where
> > >>>> modified, but if you consider one, make certain it has the update.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Note that you can use two regular rigs together to form a satellite
> > >>>> station.  Some people find a good
> > >>>> eBay or flea market rig as a second unit.  Again, programs like
> > SatPC32
> > >>>> will work with this
> > >>>> combination and make it look like a single rig.  For instance, our
> > >>>> Dayton
> > >>>> Hamvention demo station uses
> > >>>> two FT-817s.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 73s,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Alan
> > >>>> WA4SCA
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org
> ]
> > On
> > >>>> Behalf Of Oscar Ortega
> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:52 PM
> > >>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > >>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Newbie needs advice on which transceiver to get
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I recently got interested in trying satellite communications. I
> bought
> > >>>> an
> > >>>> Arrow antenna and I am
> > >>>> wondering
> > >>>> which transceiver to get. So far I have found the FT-847, IC-910h
> and
> > >>>> IC-9100.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The FT-847 scares me since it is a bit old, however I have heard it
> is
> > >>>> very good for satellite and
> > >>>> EME.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any advice would be appreciated!!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Oscar
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