[amsat-bb] Re: A viable FD satellite operation

Rolf Krogstad rolf.krogstad at gmail.com
Wed May 22 04:37:10 PDT 2013


Jim makes a good point.  Know where the points of the compass are.

And, depending on where you are located, that is not as simple as just
taking out a compass.
It can make a fair amount of difference if you are in the western states of
the US and not so much, if any, if you are in some place like Pensacola,
Florida.

NOAA has a calculator:  http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag-web/#declination

73
Rolf   NR0T
EN34
Amsat-NA #38889


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net> wrote:

> You're definitely approaching it in the right way, Bill!
>
> An FT-847 is an excellent satellite rig, and in combination with a small
> gain antenna, will be an excellent station.
>
> The 50 Watts the '847 provides is more than enough RF power, even with the
> Arrow, or similar Elk, antenna.
>
> A preamps are highly recommended, especially with a smaller antenna.
>
> Use a diplexer "in reverse" to help get rid of desense. It's more
> important than you'd think.
>
>  http://www.amsat.org/amsat-**new/articles/Mode-J/<http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/articles/Mode-J/>
>
> A few other tips to help you.......
>
> If you're going to be running tracking software, like SatPC32, make SURE
> your PC has the correct time set!
>
> An error of 10~15 seconds may not sound like much, but it can cause you
> point your antennas wrong, and ruin a pass.
>
> Same with your Lat/Lon. I use a GPS, which also supplies an accurate clock
> to the laptop, but a lot of people get by with just using grid squares.
>
> Know precisely *WHERE* North, South. East, and West are at your station
> location.
>
> You'd be surprised how many people don't, and then can't find the sats as
> they come up over the horizon.
>
> Have a helper to point the antenna, as you'll be busy doing the "Doppler
> Dance".
>
> Again, if you run SatPC32, the Doppler correction is fed to the rig, and
> it's one less manual operation to split your limited time amongst.
>
> Keep the TenTec on the shelf, in the collection.
>
> And as somebody else pointed out, get started setting up and practicing
> NOW!!
>
> If you wait until Field Day weekend, you'll wind up extremely frustrated,
> with few or no contacts!
>
> I know, as I used to do it that way every year. I think the best I ever
> got was three contacts one year.
>
> The next year I started two months early, and I made THIRTY FIVE contacts
> that year, just because:
>
> I didn't forget anything at home, requiring numerous unnecessary trips
> back and forth (I also bought some Tupperware tubs to keep all the
> satellite stuff in!)
>
> Everything worked because I had six weekends to practice setting up and
> operating before Field Day, ensuring all the bugs were worked out
>
> I was a lot more comfortable using the station because I knew it all
> worked, and the stress level was much lower.
>
> Good luck, get going, and listen for K6AA on Field Day, and KQ6EA the
> weeks before while I'm practicing!
>
> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>
>
>
> On 05/21/2013 08:09 PM, Bill W1PA wrote:
>
>> I may set up a Field Day satellite station for our local club. I haven't
>> done
>> this in a while.... my last experience with a non-FM bird was AO-40.
>>
>> I'd like to avoid the futility of the FM LEO's on FD, and look to the
>> working passband birds, which I understand are AO-7, FO-29, and VO-52.
>>
>> I have at my disposal a FT-847, an Arrow satellite antenna (V/U), and if
>> needed,
>> various preamps and poweramps for 2m and 432, as well as antennas with
>> more elements.
>>
>> I also have a Ten Tec 2510 satellite unit that does not have the "extra
>> crystal board",
>> which I understand makes it a non-starter for the 3 birds I mentioned.
>>
>> For those of you experienced with the bandpass birds, assuming an outdoor,
>> clear sky access location, what should I bring? (i.e. will the FT-847
>> stock amp be sufficient?
>> How many elements do I need for uplink? pre-amp for downlink? etc)
>>
>> I also may only be able to work overnight (in darkness) -- that rules out
>> AO-7, correct?
>>
>> Bill W1PA
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