[amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin Oklahoma and Texas

[Stefan Wagener]

Thanks!

However you still seem to be missing the point.

First of all, these are incorporation papers from 1969!

Secondly, no one questions the potential of satellites and their actual use
for emergency. We actually have "satellite phones" for emergencies in our
facility and use them when we deploy folks around the world. Satellites
make great emergency communication systems if and I reiterate IF they are
available 24/7 365. Unfortunately none of "our" satellites will ever meet
that requirement unless we are in a fixed location on a geostationary orbit.

Thirdly, current amateur satellites are only available for a few minutes
sometimes during the day and our provincial/federal emergency coordinators
are having a good laugh about that.

Fourthly, please look up ARES and RACES on the Internet. Biggest emergency
response groups and networks worldwide involving amateur radio. None of
their frequencies include a single satellite for obvious reasons.

Rest my case.

Stefan, VE4NSA




On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:54 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs at tin.it> wrote:

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> Hi Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>  the link I provide belove is on the actual Amsat-NA website and is point
> D of the AMSAT purposes.
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> Read it please.
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> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/AboutAmsat/documents/incorporation.php
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> D. Facilitating communications by amateur satellites in times of emergency.
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>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
> *To:* i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs at tin.it>
> *Cc:* Bill Acito <w1pa at hotmail.com> ; Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:36 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
> tornadoin Oklahoma and Texas
>
> Sorry Domenico,
>
> the link you provide is on the "old" Amsat-NA website and is a copy of the
> Indian website:
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> http://www.amsatindia.org/hamsat.htm
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> Nothing more, nothing less and Bill's point is very valid. While amateur
> radio has a great history of emergency services and is one of the true key
> public services, amateur radio satellite are currently not part of it. That
> does not mean they cannot be used, but they are just too limited. There is
> a reason why 99.9% of emergency services within NA using amateur radio are
> based on ground services trough VHF/UHF and HF and not satellites!
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
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> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:48 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs at tin.it> wrote:
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Acito" <w1pa at hotmail.com>
>> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:13 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin
>> Oklahoma and Texas
>>
>> > Domenico,
>> >
>> > With all due respect, you base much of your
>> > argument on a single sentence on a marketing web page.
>>
>> Hi Bill, W1PA
>>
>> The following page is not a marketing web page but an
>> official AMSAT-NA web page
>>
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/sat_summary/hamsat.php
>>
>> > The "emergency" access ability may have been
>> > used as part of the justification for funding
>> > or launch vehicle access; it doesn't mean it works for that
>> > in any practical situation.
>> >
>> If you you mean that the the "emergency" access ability used
>> by AMSAT as part of the justification for funding or launch
>> vehicle access it doesn't mean it works for that in any practical
>> situation it is like to say that AMSAT tells falsehood to NASA
>> and ESA but as far I know AMSAT is not used to talk nonsense.
>> >
>> > Bill W1PA  (in New England, but I also live on the path of
>> > the now 2nd deadliest tornado -- Worcester 1953)
>> >
>> 73" de i8CVS Domenico
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