[amsat-bb] Re: D STAR

Tue Nov 12 09:48:48 PST 2013

Sorry. I thought we were comparing apples with apples.

PS: By the way, apple (big brother is watching you ) :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob" <pabutusa at gmail.com>
To: <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:26 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR

>I can do all that with my iphone .... which are the enhancements?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Angelo Glorioso <n5uxt at hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> "To help the believer "  :-)
>>
>> Either you have not used Dstar before or have not used it
>> in a long time.
>>
>> Have your tried to send a picture with Dstar??
>>
>> Have you chatted voice and text as the same time??
>>
>> Have you tried to surf the web with DStar.
>>
>> Have you used DRats for Emergencies, trainings or other exercises ???
>>
>>
>> Just to mention a few things that add to the enhancement of the
>> radio art!!!!!!
>>
>> 7 3  de Angelo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <pabutusa at gmail.com>
>> To: <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:39 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR
>>
>>
>>  "To help the non beleiver.. "
>>>
>>> Well I guess it official ... it's now become a religious argument.
>>>
>>> D-STAR is the "fast-food" of amateur radio (much the same way repeaters
>>> are
>>> ... but I digress)
>>>
>>> I'm not arguing the technical merits .... but it does not enhance the
>>> radio
>>> art ... it does not promote innovation ...
>>>
>>> Sure you can buy a radio ... plug it in .... program it or what ever you
>>> need to do to get on "the net" and talk to someone .... you've learned
>>> nothing and you've given nothing back.
>>>
>>> The spectrum we use is very valuable .... if we're not generating any
>>> value
>>> for what we've been entrusted with it's going to be sold off to the
>>> highest
>>> bidder.
>>>
>>> We need more of this -> http://wc2fd.com/eaps/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM, <lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 11 Nov 2013 at 15:22, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:46:24AM -0600, damon runion wrote:
>>>> > > Well back in the days of AM and when SSB came out it was the same
>>>> > > thinking then BUT what has happened to AM . Same thing with DSTAR 
>>>> > > it
>>>> > > is growing and will grow . Thats what makes ham radio so much fun,
>>>> > > there is something for everyone
>>>> > > 73,s Damon
>>>> >
>>>> > But the difference there is that *anyone* can make an SSB rig.  Only 
>>>> >  >
>>>> one
>>>> manufacturer is allowed to make AMBE codecs, and they will only sell to 
>>>> a
>>>> handful of approved radio manufacturers.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is illegal to make your own DStar radio, without buying the AMBE
>>>> codec from DVSI.  That sort of thing has no place in amateur radio.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>>>> >
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>>>> To help the non beleiver.. just read this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.eham.net/articles/30174
>>>>
>>>> And yes telephone and satellite phone are available but if one choose 
>>>> to
>>>> use DSTAR it is relevant to discredit him? If you think something
>>>> has no place im amateur radio just don't use it and let those who wants
>>>> to
>>>> use it enjoy one of the most reliable digital communication
>>>> protocol available. Yes some will say DMR,  MotoTRBO are better it's 
>>>> just
>>>> to say competition is already present.
>>>>
>>>> The cost question.
>>>> You can already interface a lot of recent HF transceiver to DSTAR for
>>>> 700$
>>>> and much less if you are technicaly inclined.See below it's just
>>>> an example and i'm not connected to their business.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://dstarradioclub-international.com/dv-adapters-
>>>> --for-more-information--manual-links.html?success=1&
>>>> ucfid=510239683496259871&text=Thank+
>>>> you.+Your+information+has+been+submitted
>>>>
>>>> I don't know where this "I don't use it and as i think it's not Ham 
>>>> radio
>>>> no one should use it" trend come from but it's getting old...
>>>>
>>>> I'm an avid DSTAR user just put my call sing in your URCALL and you 
>>>> will
>>>> be able to reach me all over the globe. If you don't like the
>>>> internet component you better to go back to the cave man, or you don't
>>>> live on my planet.
>>>>
>>>> Just let folks live free...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
>>>> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>>>>
>>>>
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