[amsat-bb] Re: D STAR

Tue Nov 12 15:45:02 PST 2013

If the iPhone is discontinued, one can just pickup another phone.  There's
no single owner of the LTE protocol or the various 3G protocols.

I don't think the AMBE patent material is complete enough to write an
implementation, otherwise someone would have created an open source version
of it by now.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Craig Gagner <crgagner at charter.net> wrote:

> And we all know how open source that iPhone is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Rob
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:26 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR
>
> I can do all that with my iphone .... which are the enhancements?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Angelo Glorioso <n5uxt at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "To help the believer "  :-)
> >
> > Either you have not used Dstar before or have not used it in a long
> > time.
> >
> > Have your tried to send a picture with Dstar??
> >
> > Have you chatted voice and text as the same time??
> >
> > Have you tried to surf the web with DStar.
> >
> > Have you used DRats for Emergencies, trainings or other exercises ???
> >
> >
> > Just to mention a few things that add to the enhancement of the radio
> > art!!!!!!
> >
> > 7 3  de Angelo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <pabutusa at gmail.com>
> > To: <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:39 AM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D STAR
> >
> >
> >  "To help the non beleiver.. "
> >>
> >> Well I guess it official ... it's now become a religious argument.
> >>
> >> D-STAR is the "fast-food" of amateur radio (much the same way
> >> repeaters are ... but I digress)
> >>
> >> I'm not arguing the technical merits .... but it does not enhance the
> >> radio art ... it does not promote innovation ...
> >>
> >> Sure you can buy a radio ... plug it in .... program it or what ever
> >> you need to do to get on "the net" and talk to someone .... you've
> >> learned nothing and you've given nothing back.
> >>
> >> The spectrum we use is very valuable .... if we're not generating any
> >> value for what we've been entrusted with it's going to be sold off to
> >> the highest bidder.
> >>
> >> We need more of this -> http://wc2fd.com/eaps/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM, <lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>  On 11 Nov 2013 at 15:22, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:46:24AM -0600, damon runion wrote:
> >>> > > Well back in the days of AM and when SSB came out it was the
> >>> > > same thinking then BUT what has happened to AM . Same thing with
> >>> > > DSTAR it is growing and will grow . Thats what makes ham radio
> >>> > > so much fun, there is something for everyone 73,s Damon
> >>> >
> >>> > But the difference there is that *anyone* can make an SSB rig.
> >>> > Only >
> >>> one
> >>> manufacturer is allowed to make AMBE codecs, and they will only sell
> >>> to a handful of approved radio manufacturers.
> >>> >
> >>> > It is illegal to make your own DStar radio, without buying the
> >>> > AMBE
> >>> codec from DVSI.  That sort of thing has no place in amateur radio.
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
> >>> >
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> >>> To help the non beleiver.. just read this:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.eham.net/articles/30174
> >>>
> >>> And yes telephone and satellite phone are available but if one
> >>> choose to use DSTAR it is relevant to discredit him? If you think
> >>> something has no place im amateur radio just don't use it and let
> >>> those who wants to use it enjoy one of the most reliable digital
> >>> communication protocol available. Yes some will say DMR,  MotoTRBO
> >>> are better it's just to say competition is already present.
> >>>
> >>> The cost question.
> >>> You can already interface a lot of recent HF transceiver to DSTAR
> >>> for 700$ and much less if you are technicaly inclined.See below it's
> >>> just an example and i'm not connected to their business.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://dstarradioclub-international.com/dv-adapters-
> >>> --for-more-information--manual-links.html?success=1&
> >>> ucfid=510239683496259871&text=Thank+
> >>> you.+Your+information+has+been+submitted
> >>>
> >>> I don't know where this "I don't use it and as i think it's not Ham
> >>> radio no one should use it" trend come from but it's getting old...
> >>>
> >>> I'm an avid DSTAR user just put my call sing in your URCALL and you
> >>> will be able to reach me all over the globe. If you don't like the
> >>> internet component you better to go back to the cave man, or you
> >>> don't live on my planet.
> >>>
> >>> Just let folks live free...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> >>> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
> >>>
> >>>
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