[amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations

Thu Nov 21 17:07:22 PST 2013

Adding to that Clint, a good handle on social media would be a big plus too.

Bryce

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Clint K6LCS <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net>wrote:

> This is all facetious, correct? Because, for example, if my wife applied
> for this position (she is not available), you wouldn't hire her because she
> meets none of those requirements. Yet in reality, she would be the absolute
> finest asset AMSAT may have ever hired. She is a public relations
> professional extraordinaire. While at UCRiverside, she got those professors
> on campus mentioned and cited in the planet's most prestigious magazines
> and newspapers. And her Rolodex is extraordinary ... Oh, and her work on
> and submission of my ARISS contact won a prestigious award from the Public
> Relations Society of America at their annual banquet last year ...
>
> Anyway, what I mean to say is that this is not an election of a club
> president. This position needs someone with media savvy, professionalism
> and dedication ... Handling a soldering iron as a prerequisite is silly.
> Handling the editors at The New York Times and Scientific American magazine
> is what we need.
>
> Clint
>
>
>
>
>
> > What qualifications are needed for a fund raiser and PR in AMSAT. The
> person had better have a ham license. They had better know how to phase a
> pair of crossed yagis. They had better be able to solder. It is important
> that they have worked at least a few hundred grid squares and most
> importantly they had better know how to edit an Doppler.sqf file. If they
> can do those things they certainly can handle the "simple" task of PR and
> fund raising because after all AMSAT is completely different.
> >
> > 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks Rich,
> >>
> >> *"I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue
> of
> >> the great resources in ARRL,  AMSAT,  local clubs, and citizens offer
> >> including the local system where K4AMG mentors.  They just don't get!"*
> >>
> >> Actually some do. Just look and talk to the schools that had direct
> >> contacts with the ISS (ARISS). The local hams have worked wonders and
> some
> >> of the teachers are now engaging much more in amateur radio related STEM
> >> activities. It takes local folks to make a difference in local schools
> like
> >> you are proposing. It takes AMSAT, ARRL and others to make key support
> >> materials available for the local folks.
> >>
> >> Be prepared for the obvious and not so obvious questions:
> >> How does that fit within the approved curriculum and planned activities?
> >> What are the resources you will provide to the local school and
> especially
> >> the teachers?
> >> Who will be doing it? What will it cost?
> >> ...and so on.
> >>
> >> Good luck and keep us posted.
> >> Stefan
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff at verizon.net
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue
> of
> >> > the great resources in ARRL,  AMSAT,  local clubs, and citizens offer
> >> > including the local system where K4AMG mentors.  They just don't get!
> >> > That is why we are now assembly a presentation for our school board.
> >> > * Send to each board member resource info
> >> > * Hopefully speak with them 1 - 1
> >> > * Make presentation to the entire board
> >> > * Make some suggestions
> >> > * K4AMG will help fund the extra things that might be needed, no extra
> >> > expense to the city.
> >> >
> >> > So PR info is critical to all of us!
> >> >
> >> > Earlier this year, when we borrowed the CUBESAT simulator, we did
> discuss
> >> > trying to build a CUBESAT.  I think that if there was a parts list or
> a kit
> >> > we could do that a lot easier.  We could use our  coordinated repeater
> >> > frequencies all ready assigned (1/2 duplex).  It may never be
> launched but
> >> > we could arrange to have it flown every now and then.
> >> >
> >> > I hope that this will development more discussion leading to a plan,
> >> > action, and desired results
> >> >
> >> > God Bless
> >> >
> >> > Rich
> >> > W4BUE
> >> >
> >> > ***********************
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryce Salmi" <
> bstguitarist at gmail.com>
> >> > To: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners at gmail.com>
> >> > Cc: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net>; "AMSAT BB" <
> >> > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:49 PM
> >> >
> >> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Just a few comments:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >   - I'd be up for any document like this being publicly available
> >> >   - AMSAT Engineering is using it's expertise in radio comms as
> leverage
> >> >
> >> >   for supplying a comms board to other cubesat payloads that can be
> turn
> >> > into
> >> >   a full fledged bent pipe transmitter at end of mission. Not sure if
> this
> >> > is
> >> >   actively being promoted yet, probably more leverage once Fox-1 flies
> >> >   - I have no idea if AMSAT has a presence (official) at the cubesat
> >> >
> >> >   symposiums and conferences (I think there's a big one in Utah or at
> least
> >> >   was). That would be a good idea for this.
> >> >   - A great start would be to build up excitement within amateur
> radio and
> >> >   use that momentum to extend it. Again at least on AMSAT-NA side of
> thing
> >> >   Fox-1 is a big step towards that.
> >> >
> >> > Nice discussion!
> >> >
> >> > Bryce
> >> >
> >> > KB1LQC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >  This ARISS guide is very useful for schools and communities seeking a
> >> >> voice
> >> >> contact with the ISS. It is a procedure "manual" for a very specific
> >> >> purpose to guide applicants in the process for one specific goal, the
> >> >> contact. While the guide clearly fulfills its purpose and is used
> widely
> >> >> in
> >> >> preparation, it does not even mention AMSAT (however refers to the
> ARRL).
> >> >> However, the format and purpose is NOT useful for engaging
> individuals
> >> >> and/or groups involved in cubesats and amateur radio.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> What is needed is a “101 on CubeSats and Amateur Radio”
> document/guide
> >> >> that
> >> >> at certain levels of detail clearly outlines the benefits, pitfalls
> and
> >> >> processes involved in using amateur radio within a planned cubesat
> >> >> project.
> >> >> It should preferably be written by AMSAT (available in the store?)
> however
> >> >> the amateur radio satellite community at large is a great resource.
> In
> >> >> essence, we need to tell folks not how (necessarily) but why they
> should
> >> >> include us and clearly outline the benefits (assuming we have a few).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> All universities and even schools have in general a very effective
> >> >> communication group/department and their ability to promote their
> projects
> >> >> for fundraising purposes speaks volume. The lack of engagement by
> these
> >> >> groups with our community is based on previous experience and/or
> >> >> ignorance.
> >> >> Both of these are something we as a community have to take
> responsibility
> >> >> for. Negative experience based on cubesat bashing has done a lot of
> damage
> >> >> (based on very personal experience) and the lack of clearly
> outlining the
> >> >> benefits, our expertise, specific services and other tangible
> factors is
> >> >> also a factor.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If, and I say if, engaging the cubesat community is a priority of
> AMSAT
> >> >> (NA), it will require time, resources and a full commitment by the
> board
> >> >> and yes, most of all volunteers. What could help is for example
> having a
> >> >> working group chaired by a VP for cubesats (small satellites) and
> having
> >> >> the annual meeting in partnership with one of the annual cubesat
> >> >> symposiums
> >> >> for a joint conference. However, the board will have to decide how
> >> >> important that is in comparison to other priorities. In the
> meantime, it
> >> >> is
> >> >> up to the individuals making an effort on the local level.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> My 2 cents, and I am going back working on our local ARISS project.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Stefan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Clint Bradford
> >> >> <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > >Is the guide available ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is not the exact one I used for our ARISS contact ... but it
> is
> >> >> close
> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://files.secureserver.net/0fgxMFjvG2DaFC
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I will upload the other one tonight - to the same folder.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Clint
> >> >> > 909-241-7666 - cell
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----------------------------------
> >> >> > Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> >> >> > http://www.clintbradford.com
> >> >> >
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> > tom ...
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