[amsat-bb] Re: DC and AMSAT Awards

[Paul Stoetzer]

Bruce,

That an illogical argument. Only three states have their own prefixes:
Alaska, Hawaii, and California.

It also ignores the fact that the District of Columbia is not part of
Maryland. Incidentally, DC is the only top-level subdivision of the United
States or Canada that does not count as a separate entity for this award.

73,

Paul, N8HM


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Bruce <kk5do at amsat.org> wrote:

> If the FCC and ARRL would recognize the District of Columbia with its own
> prefix as the RAC has done with their provencies and territories then we
> should. However, until they do, it is included as a contact for Maryland.
>
> Here is the list from RAC that they use for their contests.
> Nova Scotia [NS] (VE1, VA1, CY9, CYØ);
> Quebec [QC] (VE2, VA2);
> Ontario [ON] (VE3, VA3);
> Manitoba [MB] (VE4, VA4);
> Saskatchewan [SK] (VE5, VA5);
> Alberta [AB] (VE6, VA6);
> British Columbia [BC] (VE7, VA7);
> Northwest Territories [NT] (VE8);
> New Brunswick [NB] (VE9);
> Newfoundland and Labrador [NL] (VO1, VO2);
> Nunavut [NU] (VYØ);
> Yukon [YT] (VY1);
> Prince Edward Island [PE] (VY2).
>
> AMSAT chose to use the same list in their award since AMSAT-NA includes
> Canada.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> 73...bruce
>
>
>
> On 9/24/2013 9:13 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I was curious about the rules for the the OSCAR Satellite Communications
>> Achievement Award, the OSCAR Sexagesimal Award, and the OSCAR Century
>> Award.
>>
>> The rules from KK5DO's website state that "A contact is defined as one
>> with
>> a station in another state, DXCC country or Canadian Provience. Once you
>> have a contact with a station in that area, you must hunt for another."
>>
>> Furthermore, the rules also state that "For those that have the RAC
>> CANDADAWARD or ARRL WAS with satellite endorsements, you may submit a copy
>> of your certificate as proof of working the 13 Canadian Proviences or 50
>> U.S. States."
>>
>> Since Canada only has ten provinces, that implies that the three
>> territories also count under the definition of "province."  Similarly, I
>> would argue that the definition of  "state" should also include the
>> District of Columbia as a separate entity since the precedent from
>> counting
>> the Canadian territories as "provinces" is clear.
>>
>> Does the District of Columbia count as a separate entity for the purposes
>> of these awards?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>> Washington, DC
>> AMSAT-NA #38,913
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