[amsat-bb] Final email.

[Kevin Elliott]

Well said!

Kevin
KK6NHN

> On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Doug - k4GKJ <k4gkj at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Odd how we must rely on the Internet to figure out if it's okay to request (or demand) a return qsl.... The Internet is changing how hams operate..... Am I the only one finding that comical? Is it laziness? Too cheap to buy a stamp? Or?? 
> Why must the 'easy' way define the future of the hobby? Doesn't seem like our track record to me... 
> 
> I'm not against the Internet, or any of the wonderful programs catered to our hobby, but question how it's changing some habits and how others resist.... 
> As another mentioned, it is very similar to the CW debate.... 
> 
> Until satellite ops, I never had a request for a qsl...... Nor did I have cards for such..... After a wave of request due to my satellite ops, I've ordered cards which have yet to arrive....  So please, if you have requested a card from me, no worries, you'll get one..... Just don't threaten please! 
> I am much more of a 'rag chewer' than a 'contester'...  I did satellite ops only to become proficient for an ARISS contact I was hosting for a school..... 
> 
> The large amount of cards sent with SASE's sent guilted me into ordering those cards (cheap ones, but enough to get the job done).... 
> 
> I am very sad to see how this subject began....  I hope those I mentor (or talk into joining the hobby) don't end up butting heads with the jerk's in our hobby, but every hobby and group has them..... 
> Heck, to be honest, any group willing to have me as a member is a sure sign of a dysfunctional group right off the bat! (I can be a jerk too - just ask the wife!) 
> 
> But we really are shooting a dead horse here on this subject..... 
> 
> Cards on the way folks! Promise! Just give me time to get them in and prepared! 
> 
> Thanks! 
> Doug 
> K4GKJ 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Bennight - K4GKJ
> 528-5772
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Patrick <flymooney at gmail.com> 
> Date: 04/13/2015  8:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Final email. 
> 
> On 4/13/2015 12:44 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote:
> 
>> First of all, define "timely manner". This is a very subjective standard,
>> and will differ based on the QSO/QSL scenario.
>> 
> 
> I understand completely. Like all disputes, this one is mainly based on 
> miscommunication (or no communication) between the two parties. I think 
> the best thing to do is post on QRZ (or wherever) an advisory along the 
> lines of "I will QSL when I get time but I'm a very busy person so don't 
> expect it inside of 6 months".  :)
> 
> I do think if someone is emailing you and getting frustrated, the best 
> avenue to settle things is to either a) answer and explain or b) take 
> care of whatever it is the complaint is about and get on with your life. 
> In this case, personally, I'd just taken the two minutes to fill out the 
> QSL and dropped it in the mail. If for anything, just so I didn't have 
> to be bothered anymore. Sometimes sticking with your pride and making a 
> point isn't the best way to handle things, even if you're 100% in the right.
> 
> We're all hams and members of an extended "ham family". We need to be 
> watching out for each other, doing whatever we can to help one another, 
> and sticking together in order to ensure a firm stand against those 
> people who don't have our best interests at heart. If that means 
> sometimes I have to cut someone slack I don't particularly like, then so 
> be it. I'll expect the same treatment when I fall short as well.  :)
> 
> Patrick
> K4PNR
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb