From gjd1958 at verizon.net Sat Aug 1 01:07:43 2015 From: gjd1958 at verizon.net (Greg) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:07:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker Question Message-ID: Hi all, Been about 4 weeks since I went and turned my sat radio on and rotor. The rotor is a G5500 with and LVB Tracker. I noticed that the azimuth reading on the LVD Tracker display is not stable and jumps around to 350-370 degree?s when the antenna is parked at 360 degrees. Playing with the voltage quickly in the back can change the Tracker display from 350-800 degree?s. Not sure if this is a wiring issue to the rotor as I had some landscape done and we had heavy rains this summer. The rotor turns on command when using Nova or PCsat and if I follow a satellite the needle on the Yaesu box is close to indicated satellite azimuth on the program. Howver, the Tracker will still jump around 10 degrees from that needle heading. Ideas welcomed? Greg N3MVF From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Sat Aug 1 02:11:05 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:11:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding UO-11 (UOSAT-2) In-Reply-To: References: <55BBA8FC.6020406@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <55BC2AB9.6080103@denstarfarm.us> On 31-Jul-15 1434, Rick Walter wrote: > When you said "Others here had said UO-11 gives garbage > decodes", they actually meant the telemetry you decode from the tones > will look fine like what you included, but when you put the values in > the formulas to determine the "real" data, that value will be garbage. Well I learn more every day. Thanks for the help and explanation Rick! I'll take it off my list to decode or watch. 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From on5ue at skynet.be Sat Aug 1 09:44:12 2015 From: on5ue at skynet.be (ON5UE) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 11:44:12 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding UO-11 (UOSAT-2) In-Reply-To: <55BBA8FC.6020406@denstarfarm.us> References: <55BBA8FC.6020406@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <003901d0cc3e$9f389ab0$dda9d010$@skynet.be> You have to use software to decode these blocs of data. The information about the sat: http://www.dk3wn.info/sat/afu/sat_uo11.shtml The software: http://www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml Good luck 73 Dan ON5UE -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Namens Bob KD7YZ Verzonden: vrijdag 31 juli 2015 18:58 Aan: AMSAT BB Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] Decoding UO-11 (UOSAT-2) Once I got the correct Mode-Setting for UO-11, I had no trouble getting what I think are good decode sets. Others here had said UO-11 gives garbage decodes. The last couple days I have gotten true garbage, a snippet here: -------------------------------------------------------- 0pA}4VRX 4CKIp(zhp#W13 z R<#`{M|4C 2Gr%xa5,RtCX`Xa\:#X{ <("!"i(TpB?B$B7(4="BzF<("ai)5H)0L$0\C/~HPT, $"b}EE=0"lw` L`V A-.7Pq\E54,xX|/ab(+F! ^88 (a`h"i!B @, #%\95!!_C$[P`dD &4 XhQHV3& )FPj( rPA4-`}BH!}0PF!/B-.H9)GP0jSDd rI"- References: <55BBA8FC.6020406@denstarfarm.us> <003901d0cc3e$9f389ab0$dda9d010$@skynet.be> Message-ID: <55BCA52D.4020404@denstarfarm.us> On 01-Aug-15 0544, ON5UE wrote: > You have to use software to decode these blocs of data. > The software: > http://www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml > > Good luck > 73 > Dan ON5UE Excellent, Dan. I ran the program on a recent capture of UO-11 and looking at the numbers in the chart, I "SEE" the wacky values. For example, all temperatures of anything are 96.1 ... tnx ! 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 1 16:05:49 2015 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 16:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS Message-ID: <1476068136.152468.1438445149875.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone know what's up with APRS on ARISS? Nothing heard last two days. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From rjlawn at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 19:15:19 2015 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 15:15:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CW heard Message-ID: In FN21, the northern Pocono area of PA near Scranton, I copied "MOVE1" every 60" around 145.975 +- Doppler. The time was 14:25 UTC give or take. Anyone know what I heard? At it's peak the signal was 59 here while I was waiting for one of our ham sats around that same freq. Rick, W2JAZ From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Aug 1 19:29:07 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 15:29:07 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] CW heard Message-ID: <32796404.1438457347287.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Take a look at http://www.move2space.de/?page_id=910&lang=en 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- >From: Richard Lawn >Sent: Aug 1, 2015 3:15 PM >To: Amsat BB >Subject: [amsat-bb] CW heard > >In FN21, the northern Pocono area of PA near Scranton, I copied "MOVE1" >every 60" around 145.975 +- Doppler. The time was 14:25 UTC give or take. > >Anyone know what I heard? At it's peak the signal was 59 here while I was >waiting for one of our ham sats around that same freq. > >Rick, W2JAZ >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ku4os at cfl.rr.com Sun Aug 2 02:43:51 2015 From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 22:43:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-214 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <55BD83E7.209@cfl.rr.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-214 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Fox-1A Mated to the Centaur for Launch * AMSAT 2015 Symposium Papers * PCSAT Default Beacon Transmissions on 144.390 MHz * 2015 AMSAT-UK Colloquim Videos Aavilable Online * FUNcube Certificate of Achievement and QSL Card * Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-214.01 ANS-214 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 214.01 From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD. August 2, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-214.01 Fox-1A Mated to the Centaur for Launch AMSAT-NA's Fox-1A satellite which will launch on a NASA ELaNa flight from Vandenburg AFB has been mated to the Centaur upper stage which will carry it to orbit. A photo of the NPSCuL mated to the Centaur with the P-POD containing Fox-1A, BisonSat, ARC1 and 7 other P-PODs can be seen on the AMSAT website. http://www.amsat.org/?cat=21 [ANS thanks Jerry, N0JY, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT 2015 Symposium Papers The 2015 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and Space Symposium to be held on the weekend of October 16-18, 2015. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations and poster presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible. The final copy must be submitted by September 15 for inclusion in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz at n8fgv at amsat.org The 2015 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual Meeting will be held October 16, 17, 18, 2015 at the Crowne Plaza Hotel, 33 East 5th Street, in Downtown, Dayton, Ohio. [ANS thanks the 2015 Symposium Committee for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- PCSAT Default Beacon Transmissions on 144.390 MHz An FM APRS signal has been received in England causing interference to the MGM frequency and weak-signal Meteor Scatter (MS) operation which is just below 144.390 MHz. A MS DXpedition was disrupted by such activity earlier in the month and interference has been occurring at various times since. Bob Bruninga, WB4APR, explains that the beacon was planned over 15 years ago for operation only when PCSAT is over North America based on published band plans at that time. Now, after 14 years on orbit, the ability to turn that backup beacon off has been lost. PCSAT (now 14 years old) had a backup fail-safe beacon on 144.39 that would activate after any unknown spacecraft reset to give a backup comm link in case the primary 145.825 channel died. Being on the North American APRS frequency with hundreds of IGates there would always be at least one that would hear this "emergency call home" from PCSAT even though the channel is generally saturated. It worked. The problem is, that now PCSAT resets on every orbit due to negative power budget and so, on every orbit that beacon comes back on. Even if we did get a command up to reset it, that setting would last only 15 minutes to the next eclipse. We learned our lesson! That was our FIRST amateur satellite and we sure learned NOT to use a "connected-packet-command link" that needs ACKS and Retries and logon passwords just to LOGON before you can even send a SHUTUP command. All our satellites since, operate without the multiple Send, connect, ACK, retry, ACK, command, ACK overhead.... just to get one command understood. Now, only the receiver on the spacecraft has to be functional to command it to silence in a single packet. But too late for PCSAT. We are sorry that we have no good answers. But we hope we can mitigate this instance of "friendly fire" collateral damage so that we don't cause an overall black-eye to amateur radio overall friendly operations? What you may hear will be 2 one-second packets per minute, one at 1200 baud and one at 9600 baud, trying to "call home". [ANS thanks Bob, WB4APR, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2015 AMSAT-UK Colloquim Videos Aavilable Online Thanks to the cooperation between the BATC and AMSAT-UK, this years colloquium footage is becoming available online already. The BATC and AMSAT-UK teams are working to upload all video material on to the AMSAT-UK YouTube account. (http://youtube.com/user/AMSATUK) Video's will become available as soon as uploading is complete. Since the high-definition files are rather large, please allow for some time for editing and uploading. For convenience, if you wish to watch the entire colloquium, go to the playlist at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTDI7lbh1cWq2av8hb6EzddopHERvDH0i [ANS thanks Wouter, PA3WEG, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- FUNcube Certificate of Achievement and QSL Card As announced at the AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium 2015, a ?Certificate of Achievement? and/or an amateur radio style ?QSL? card are now available online. Only those who have successfully received telemetry from FUNcube-1 and uploaded it to the Data Warehouse are able to download these documents. AO-73 (FUNcube-1) The Certificate of Achievement is aimed at educational establishments such as schools, and the QSL card at radio amateurs who would like confirmation of their report. However, station operators are welcome to download both if they wish. Each is personalised with the callsign/name which has been previously registered with the Warehouse, and the date and time of the first packet to be uploaded by the requesting station is also added. Download your Certificate or QSL card from http://amsatuk.me.uk/on/funcube_qsl.php FUNcube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry: ? Dashboard App http://funcube.org.uk/working-documents/funcube-telemetry-dashboard/ ? Data Warehouse Archive http://warehouse.funcube.org.uk/ ? Whole orbit data http://warehouse.funcube.org.uk/wod.html?satelliteId=2 BBC News video about FUNcube-1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25084547 FUNcube website http://www.FUNcube.org.uk/ FUNcube Yahoo Group http://amsat-uk.org/funcube/yahoo-group/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-07-31 23:30 UTC ESA Space Camp, K?lsheim, Gemany, via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS Contact is a go for: Mon 2015-08-03 10:47:58 UTC 67 deg Maroochydore State School, Maroochydore, Queensland, Australia, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS Contact is a go for: Thu 2015-08-06 10:10:15 UTC 59 deg via LU1CGB Space Jam 9, Rantoul, IL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS Contact is a go for: Sat 2015-08-08 16:57:49 UTC 33 deg ************************************************************************* >From 2015-12-20 to 2016-01-04, there will be no US Operational Segment (USOS) hams on board ISS. So any schools contacts during this period will be conducted by the ARISS Russia team. /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Lee McLamb, KU4OS ku4os at amsat dot org From w7lrd at comcast.net Sun Aug 2 03:38:28 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 03:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CN76 Sun/Mon Message-ID: <663049100.8507816.1438486708780.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I will be in CN76 late Sun and most of the day Monday. Tested my IC910 to arrow in the driveway and it works fine. I will not have doppler control so I may be drifting all over the place. If there are many calling spread out +/-. I may give SO-50 a shot though that can be a zoo. If you want a QSL drop me a email and I will get one off later in the week. Wasn't Uri in CN76 earlier this year? 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle From my.callsign at verizon.net Sun Aug 2 15:23:57 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 08:23:57 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Windows-10 Message-ID: <55BE360D.3010505@verizon.net> Although further testing will need to be done, based on a "quick test", all of the HAM programs I have that ran on Windows-8.1 are working on Windows-10. MMSSTV CHIRP CAPTURI MMTTY DIGI-PAN MMVARI MIX-W EASYPAL AGWPE DIREWOLF UISS OUTPOST FLDIGI SatPC32 WIN-PSK/SATELLITE This is by no means a full list of programs, just the ones I had installed on the laptop prior to the O/S upgrade. I did not have to reinstall anything so far. Everything moved over. Bob Vislay KO6TZ From n0jy at amsat.org Sun Aug 2 19:16:46 2015 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:16:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Windows-10 In-Reply-To: <55BE360D.3010505@verizon.net> References: <55BE360D.3010505@verizon.net> Message-ID: <55BE6C9E.1030004@amsat.org> Good information Bob, thanks! Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/2/2015 10:23, KO6TZ Bob wrote: > Although further testing will need to be done, based on a "quick > test", all of the HAM programs I have that ran on Windows-8.1 are > working on Windows-10. > > MMSSTV > CHIRP > CAPTURI > MMTTY > DIGI-PAN > MMVARI > MIX-W > EASYPAL > AGWPE > DIREWOLF > UISS > OUTPOST > FLDIGI > SatPC32 > WIN-PSK/SATELLITE > > This is by no means a full list of programs, just the ones I had > installed on the laptop prior to the O/S upgrade. > > I did not have to reinstall anything so far. Everything moved over. > > Bob Vislay > KO6TZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Aug 2 20:25:11 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:25:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 at 2000Z Message-ID: Good afternoon, AO-7 was sounding very healthy in Mode B on the pass that just concluded over North America. The beacon was in CW mode and producing strong clean tones without a hint of FMing. Most signals sounded good in the passband. For much of the pass, I was running 500 mW into my Arrow for about 4 watts ERP and getting return signals of S4-S6. Always nice to have a pass where AO-7 sounds as good as that. There was not much activity, though. I only heard KC4LE, AF5CC, and WI9I. 73, Paul, N8HM From k7trkradio at charter.net Sun Aug 2 22:38:03 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 15:38:03 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS MIA? Message-ID: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> I do not know, but will keep trying. Maybe someone here knows. 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: Mark Johns [mailto:mjohns166 at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:41 AM To: Ted; 'Mark Johns' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS Yes, I'm fully aware it's not working, Ted. The question is, "WHY?" There are no scheduled dockings or EVAs, so no one seems to know. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted To: 'Mark Johns' ; 'Mark Johns' Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 12:21 AM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS Mark...zip on the 05:15 pass 73, K7TRK cn82oh p.s. heavy smoke in our valley. Don't know if that impacts signals...it is really dense -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 9:06 AM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS Does anyone know what's up with APRS on ARISS? Nothing heard last two days. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Aug 2 22:42:06 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 18:42:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS MIA? In-Reply-To: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> References: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> Message-ID: There have been a couple of voice contacts over the past few days. Perhaps the astronauts just forgot to put it back in packet mode? 73, Paul, N8HM On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Ted wrote: > I do not know, but will keep trying. Maybe someone here knows. > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Johns [mailto:mjohns166 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:41 AM > To: Ted; 'Mark Johns' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Yes, I'm fully aware it's not working, Ted. The question is, "WHY?" There are no scheduled dockings or EVAs, so no one seems to know. > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted > To: 'Mark Johns' ; 'Mark Johns' > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 12:21 AM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Mark...zip on the 05:15 pass > > 73, K7TRK cn82oh > > p.s. heavy smoke in our valley. Don't know if that impacts signals...it is really dense > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 9:06 AM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Does anyone know what's up with APRS on ARISS? > Nothing heard last two days. > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n4hf.philip at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 23:53:58 2015 From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 19:53:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on xmit Message-ID: The discussion on uplink power fits right in with a conversation I had last weekend... While I was not wearing my AMSAT badge at a hamfest on July 25, a married couple - both hams, both fairly recently licensed - recognized me from a previous hamfest when I was wearing that badge. Their question for me was to why they could hear (a) satellite(s), but no one could hear them... The satellite in question is SO-50 (and I did take a few minutes explaining the difference between linear birds and FM-only ones). Before the OM joined us, his YL told me that her husband doesn't want to use antennas like the Elk or Arrow, even on a tripod. I then suggested to her that he consider a fixed elevation mount, so as to only have to track the azimuth. Then the OM showed up. He doesn't even want to consider the fixed-elevation, because he'd still have to track . I suggested he leave the tracking to a computer...still not acceptable He then explained that they spend a lot of time in a motorhome. For his antennas now, he is using eggbeaters. On the 440 receive side, he is thankfully using a pre-amp, so he can hear adequately, For the transmit, he is using 50 watts into an eggbeater, and still can't be heard on the satellite. He told me one recommendation he was given was to increase the xmit power to 150 watts (*I visibly shuddered*) so as to overcome the non-directionality of the eggbeater. (And I explained why too much uplink power is bad for both FM and linear sats, in terms of bandwidth and power consumption on the satellite.) On further questioning, he knew about the PL tone to turn-on SO-50, but didn't know about the different PL to actually access the satellite on each transmission. I explained to him that it is like terrestrial repeaters; no matter how much power you run, the repeater won't "hear" you unless you transmit the PL every time. In a follow-up email the next day, I passed on the SO-50 operating guide (PDF) from the AMSAT website, and advised him to try programming his radio with the proper PL and frequencies for adjacent memories BEFORE consdering increasing transmit power. I really think his problem is not using PLs, rather than inadequate power levels on an omni antenna. My question is two-fold (I still need to follow-up with him). 1) For those of you successfully using eggbeaters for the uplink (and he is adamant about not using a yagi, despite my advice that the performance will suffer quite a bit with eggbeaters), what output power do you typically use? I think 50 watts into an eggbeater is probably still too much power, considering 5 watts into an Arrow is usually enough for successful communications. 2) I know that various power levels are suggested for various gain antennas, but I'm wondering what the suggested EIRP is for successful - not ones which would hog the satellite - uplinks. Philip N4HF From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 00:07:39 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 20:07:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on xmit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry to hijack this, but I have a question about this "And I explained why too much uplink power is bad for both FM and linear sats, in terms of bandwidth and power consumption on the satellite." I understand why it's a problem on linear satellites, but why is it also a problem on FM sats? John Brier, KG4AKV On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: > The discussion on uplink power fits right in with a conversation I had last > weekend... > > While I was not wearing my AMSAT badge at a hamfest on July 25, a married > couple - both hams, both fairly recently licensed - recognized me from a > previous hamfest when I was wearing that badge. Their question for me was > to why they could hear (a) satellite(s), but no one could hear them... > > The satellite in question is SO-50 (and I did take a few minutes explaining > the difference between linear birds and FM-only ones). > > Before the OM joined us, his YL told me that her husband doesn't want to > use antennas like the Elk or Arrow, even on a tripod. I then suggested to > her that he consider a fixed elevation mount, so as to only have to track > the azimuth. > > Then the OM showed up. He doesn't even want to consider the > fixed-elevation, because he'd still have to track . I suggested he leave > the tracking to a computer...still not acceptable > > He then explained that they spend a lot of time in a motorhome. For his > antennas now, he is using eggbeaters. On the 440 receive side, he is > thankfully using a pre-amp, so he can hear adequately, > > For the transmit, he is using 50 watts into an eggbeater, and still can't > be heard on the satellite. He told me one recommendation he was given was > to increase the xmit power to 150 watts (*I visibly shuddered*) so as to > overcome the non-directionality of the eggbeater. (And I explained why too > much uplink power is bad for both FM and linear sats, in terms of bandwidth > and power consumption on the satellite.) > > On further questioning, he knew about the PL tone to turn-on SO-50, but > didn't know about the different PL to actually access the satellite on each > transmission. I explained to him that it is like terrestrial repeaters; no > matter how much power you run, the repeater won't "hear" you unless you > transmit the PL every time. > > In a follow-up email the next day, I passed on the SO-50 operating guide > (PDF) from the AMSAT website, and advised him to try programming his radio > with the proper PL and frequencies for adjacent memories BEFORE consdering > increasing transmit power. > > I really think his problem is not using PLs, rather than inadequate power > levels on an omni antenna. > > My question is two-fold (I still need to follow-up with him). 1) For those > of you successfully using eggbeaters for the uplink (and he is adamant > about not using a yagi, despite my advice that the performance will suffer > quite a bit with eggbeaters), what output power do you typically use? I > think 50 watts into an eggbeater is probably still too much power, > considering 5 watts into an Arrow is usually enough for successful > communications. > > 2) I know that various power levels are suggested for various gain > antennas, but I'm wondering what the suggested EIRP is for successful - not > ones which would hog the satellite - uplinks. > > Philip N4HF > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From Mvivona at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 01:23:49 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 21:23:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS MIA? In-Reply-To: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> References: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> Message-ID: I heard very strong packet data yesterday on its pass over florida at 17:30 EST. I was mobile and just listening to the downlink so no computer decode involved. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 2, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Ted wrote: I do not know, but will keep trying. Maybe someone here knows. 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: Mark Johns [mailto:mjohns166 at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:41 AM To: Ted; 'Mark Johns' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS Yes, I'm fully aware it's not working, Ted. The question is, "WHY?" There are no scheduled dockings or EVAs, so no one seems to know. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted To: 'Mark Johns' ; 'Mark Johns' Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 12:21 AM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS Mark...zip on the 05:15 pass 73, K7TRK cn82oh p.s. heavy smoke in our valley. Don't know if that impacts signals...it is really dense -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 9:06 AM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS Does anyone know what's up with APRS on ARISS? Nothing heard last two days. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pd3t at amsat.org Mon Aug 3 00:28:40 2015 From: pd3t at amsat.org (=?utf-8?Q?Terence_=28PD3T=29?=) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 02:28:40 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Windows-10 Message-ID: Small addition ;) ? HDSDR FUNcube Dashboard Orbitron + WispDDE com0com Virtual Audio Cable WXtoImg PSTRotator RASCAL (Delfi-C3 Dashboard) ? ? Regards ? PD3T Terence ? -----Original message----- From:KO6TZ Bob Sent:Sun 02-08-2015 17:24 Subject:[amsat-bb] Windows-10 To:amsat-bb at amsat.org; Although further testing will need to be done, based on ?a "quick test", all of the HAM programs I have that ran on Windows-8.1 are working on Windows-10. MMSSTV CHIRP CAPTURI MMTTY DIGI-PAN MMVARI MIX-W EASYPAL AGWPE DIREWOLF UISS OUTPOST FLDIGI SatPC32 WIN-PSK/SATELLITE This is by no means a full list of programs, just the ones I had installed on the laptop prior to the O/S upgrade. I did not have to reinstall anything so far. ?Everything moved over. Bob Vislay KO6TZ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 02:09:43 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 22:09:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS MIA? In-Reply-To: References: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> Message-ID: Just watched it outside at 01:13 UTC here in North Carolina on a 40 degree pass. Didn't hear it on my HT like I have in the past. John, KG4AKV On Aug 2, 2015 9:24 PM, "Mvivona via AMSAT-BB" wrote: > I heard very strong packet data yesterday on its pass over florida at > 17:30 EST. > I was mobile and just listening to the downlink so no computer decode > involved. > > Michael Vivona > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 2, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Ted wrote: > > I do not know, but will keep trying. Maybe someone here knows. > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Johns [mailto:mjohns166 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:41 AM > To: Ted; 'Mark Johns' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Yes, I'm fully aware it's not working, Ted. The question is, "WHY?" There > are no scheduled dockings or EVAs, so no one seems to know. > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your > dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted > To: 'Mark Johns' ; 'Mark Johns' > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 12:21 AM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Mark...zip on the 05:15 pass > > 73, K7TRK cn82oh > > p.s. heavy smoke in our valley. Don't know if that impacts signals...it is > really dense > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Johns via AMSAT-BB > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 9:06 AM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Does anyone know what's up with APRS on ARISS? > Nothing heard last two days. > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your > dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n0jy at amsat.org Mon Aug 3 03:31:17 2015 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 22:31:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Windows-10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55BEE085.2080403@amsat.org> More good stuff, thanks! Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/2/2015 19:28, Terence (PD3T) wrote: > Small addition ;) > > > HDSDR > > FUNcube Dashboard > Orbitron + WispDDE > com0com > Virtual Audio Cable > > WXtoImg > > PSTRotator > > RASCAL (Delfi-C3 Dashboard) > > > > Regards > > > PD3T Terence > > > > -----Original message----- > From:KO6TZ Bob > Sent:Sun 02-08-2015 17:24 > Subject:[amsat-bb] Windows-10 > To:amsat-bb at amsat.org; > Although further testing will need to be done, based on a "quick test", > all of the HAM programs I have that ran on Windows-8.1 are working on > Windows-10. > > MMSSTV > CHIRP > CAPTURI > MMTTY > DIGI-PAN > MMVARI > MIX-W > EASYPAL > AGWPE > DIREWOLF > UISS > OUTPOST > FLDIGI > SatPC32 > WIN-PSK/SATELLITE > > This is by no means a full list of programs, just the ones I had > installed on the laptop prior to the O/S upgrade. > > I did not have to reinstall anything so far. Everything moved over. > > Bob Vislay > KO6TZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n4ufo at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 03:45:37 2015 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 03:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on xmit Message-ID: <1929627260.773427.1438573537199.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Philip, when I first got back on the birds in 2013, SO-50 was my first attempt ever on an FM bird. I used a HT for receive with a small directional antenna mounted on it and a mere 10 watts to a 2m Squalo. For all intents and purposes, an eggbeater is likely better than my Squalo on transmit gain and my 10 watts was more than enough. Using 50 watts of transmit power is bordering on obscene... using 150 watts by comparison seems downright criminal. Put it to the OM this way... he's hearing a 1/4 watt transmitter using a 1/4 wave whip from space... some people have talked back to it with 5 watts or less to a rubber duck. Why in the world would it take 50 watts to talk to it, regardless of the antenna?!!! Sometimes it just takes some common sense and the right point of view to get these things, I guess. =^) 73, Kevin N4UFO ----------------------------My question is two-fold (I still need to follow-up with him). 1) For those of you successfully using eggbeaters for the uplink (and he is adamant about not using a yagi, despite my advice that the performance will suffer quite a bit with eggbeaters), what output power do you typically use? I think 50 watts into an eggbeater is probably still too much power, considering 5 watts into an Arrow is usually enough for successful communications. 2) I know that various power levels are suggested for various gain antennas, but I'm wondering what the suggested EIRP is for successful - not ones which would hog the satellite - uplinks. Philip N4HF From ka3hsw at att.net Mon Aug 3 04:10:40 2015 From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 23:10:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas onxmit References: Message-ID: <92B62CDCBD884C96BB7CBACB03443313@parents> I sometimes use an eggbeater for the uplink, and do just fine at 25 watts. George, KA3HSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Jenkins" To: Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:53 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas onxmit > The discussion on uplink power fits right in with a conversation I had > last > weekend... > > While I was not wearing my AMSAT badge at a hamfest on July 25, a married > couple - both hams, both fairly recently licensed - recognized me from a > previous hamfest when I was wearing that badge. Their question for me was > to why they could hear (a) satellite(s), but no one could hear them... > > The satellite in question is SO-50 (and I did take a few minutes > explaining > the difference between linear birds and FM-only ones). > > Before the OM joined us, his YL told me that her husband doesn't want to > use antennas like the Elk or Arrow, even on a tripod. I then suggested to > her that he consider a fixed elevation mount, so as to only have to track > the azimuth. > > Then the OM showed up. He doesn't even want to consider the > fixed-elevation, because he'd still have to track . I suggested he leave > the tracking to a computer...still not acceptable > > He then explained that they spend a lot of time in a motorhome. For his > antennas now, he is using eggbeaters. On the 440 receive side, he is > thankfully using a pre-amp, so he can hear adequately, > > For the transmit, he is using 50 watts into an eggbeater, and still can't > be heard on the satellite. He told me one recommendation he was given was > to increase the xmit power to 150 watts (*I visibly shuddered*) so as to > overcome the non-directionality of the eggbeater. (And I explained why too > much uplink power is bad for both FM and linear sats, in terms of > bandwidth > and power consumption on the satellite.) > > On further questioning, he knew about the PL tone to turn-on SO-50, but > didn't know about the different PL to actually access the satellite on > each > transmission. I explained to him that it is like terrestrial repeaters; no > matter how much power you run, the repeater won't "hear" you unless you > transmit the PL every time. > > In a follow-up email the next day, I passed on the SO-50 operating guide > (PDF) from the AMSAT website, and advised him to try programming his radio > with the proper PL and frequencies for adjacent memories BEFORE consdering > increasing transmit power. > > I really think his problem is not using PLs, rather than inadequate power > levels on an omni antenna. > > My question is two-fold (I still need to follow-up with him). 1) For those > of you successfully using eggbeaters for the uplink (and he is adamant > about not using a yagi, despite my advice that the performance will suffer > quite a bit with eggbeaters), what output power do you typically use? I > think 50 watts into an eggbeater is probably still too much power, > considering 5 watts into an Arrow is usually enough for successful > communications. > > 2) I know that various power levels are suggested for various gain > antennas, but I'm wondering what the suggested EIRP is for successful - > not > ones which would hog the satellite - uplinks. > > Philip N4HF > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From dave at w0dhb.net Mon Aug 3 04:25:12 2015 From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 22:25:12 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on xmit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008e01d0cda4$63c463d0$2b4d2b70$@w0dhb.net> I used eggbeaters and on SO-50 , 15 to 20 watts worked fine. He does have the reflector spokes on the bottom I hope. -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Philip Jenkins Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 5:54 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on xmit The discussion on uplink power fits right in with a conversation I had last weekend... While I was not wearing my AMSAT badge at a hamfest on July 25, a married couple - both hams, both fairly recently licensed - recognized me from a previous hamfest when I was wearing that badge. Their question for me was to why they could hear (a) satellite(s), but no one could hear them... The satellite in question is SO-50 (and I did take a few minutes explaining the difference between linear birds and FM-only ones). Before the OM joined us, his YL told me that her husband doesn't want to use antennas like the Elk or Arrow, even on a tripod. I then suggested to her that he consider a fixed elevation mount, so as to only have to track the azimuth. Then the OM showed up. He doesn't even want to consider the fixed-elevation, because he'd still have to track . I suggested he leave the tracking to a computer...still not acceptable He then explained that they spend a lot of time in a motorhome. For his antennas now, he is using eggbeaters. On the 440 receive side, he is thankfully using a pre-amp, so he can hear adequately, For the transmit, he is using 50 watts into an eggbeater, and still can't be heard on the satellite. He told me one recommendation he was given was to increase the xmit power to 150 watts (*I visibly shuddered*) so as to overcome the non-directionality of the eggbeater. (And I explained why too much uplink power is bad for both FM and linear sats, in terms of bandwidth and power consumption on the satellite.) On further questioning, he knew about the PL tone to turn-on SO-50, but didn't know about the different PL to actually access the satellite on each transmission. I explained to him that it is like terrestrial repeaters; no matter how much power you run, the repeater won't "hear" you unless you transmit the PL every time. In a follow-up email the next day, I passed on the SO-50 operating guide (PDF) from the AMSAT website, and advised him to try programming his radio with the proper PL and frequencies for adjacent memories BEFORE consdering increasing transmit power. I really think his problem is not using PLs, rather than inadequate power levels on an omni antenna. My question is two-fold (I still need to follow-up with him). 1) For those of you successfully using eggbeaters for the uplink (and he is adamant about not using a yagi, despite my advice that the performance will suffer quite a bit with eggbeaters), what output power do you typically use? I think 50 watts into an eggbeater is probably still too much power, considering 5 watts into an Arrow is usually enough for successful communications. 2) I know that various power levels are suggested for various gain antennas, but I'm wondering what the suggested EIRP is for successful - not ones which would hog the satellite - uplinks. Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From transbets at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 11:00:10 2015 From: transbets at gmail.com (transbets at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 07:00:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS MIA? In-Reply-To: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> References: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> Message-ID: There is a scheduled spacewalk on the 10th, and a lot of activity right now. I am assuming the ISS is inactive in preparation for that. Hopefully they won't be off the entire time until the 10th walk, but I am not getting any activity during the passes as well. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/main/index.html 73, WB3U On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Ted wrote: > I do not know, but will keep trying. Maybe someone here knows. > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Johns [mailto:mjohns166 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:41 AM > To: Ted; 'Mark Johns' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Yes, I'm fully aware it's not working, Ted. The question is, "WHY?" There > are no scheduled dockings or EVAs, so no one seems to know. > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your > dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted > To: 'Mark Johns' ; 'Mark Johns' > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 12:21 AM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Mark...zip on the 05:15 pass > > 73, K7TRK cn82oh > > p.s. heavy smoke in our valley. Don't know if that impacts signals...it is > really dense > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Johns via AMSAT-BB > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 9:06 AM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Does anyone know what's up with APRS on ARISS? > Nothing heard last two days. > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your > dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- -- Betsy transbets at gmail.com From Mvivona at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 12:53:43 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:53:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS MIA? In-Reply-To: References: <001501d0cd73$e5365260$afa2f720$@charter.net> Message-ID: I guess the packet data I heard on Saturday during the evening pass was probably me hearing a local ground station attempting contact. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:00 AM, "transbets at gmail.com" wrote: There is a scheduled spacewalk on the 10th, and a lot of activity right now. I am assuming the ISS is inactive in preparation for that. Hopefully they won't be off the entire time until the 10th walk, but I am not getting any activity during the passes as well. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/main/index.html 73, WB3U > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Ted wrote: > > I do not know, but will keep trying. Maybe someone here knows. > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Johns [mailto:mjohns166 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:41 AM > To: Ted; 'Mark Johns' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Yes, I'm fully aware it's not working, Ted. The question is, "WHY?" There > are no scheduled dockings or EVAs, so no one seems to know. > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your > dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted > To: 'Mark Johns' ; 'Mark Johns' > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 12:21 AM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Mark...zip on the 05:15 pass > > 73, K7TRK cn82oh > > p.s. heavy smoke in our valley. Don't know if that impacts signals...it is > really dense > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Johns via AMSAT-BB > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 9:06 AM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS APRS > > Does anyone know what's up with APRS on ARISS? > Nothing heard last two days. > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your > dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- -- Betsy transbets at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dwarnberg at verizon.net Mon Aug 3 13:17:22 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:17:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on xmit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003901d0cdee$bbef0a20$33cd1e60$@net> Philip, I use M2 EggBeaters, both have preamps for receive... I use no more than 10 watts and am heard fine, if and only if the sat is on a low pass (i.e. less than 15 degrees above horizon) I may use 15 to 20 watts to be heard.. 50 watts is way too much power and indicates another problem if they cannot be heard.. My 2 cents David KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Philip Jenkins Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 7:54 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on xmit The discussion on uplink power fits right in with a conversation I had last weekend... While I was not wearing my AMSAT badge at a hamfest on July 25, a married couple - both hams, both fairly recently licensed - recognized me from a previous hamfest when I was wearing that badge. Their question for me was to why they could hear (a) satellite(s), but no one could hear them... The satellite in question is SO-50 (and I did take a few minutes explaining the difference between linear birds and FM-only ones). Before the OM joined us, his YL told me that her husband doesn't want to use antennas like the Elk or Arrow, even on a tripod. I then suggested to her that he consider a fixed elevation mount, so as to only have to track the azimuth. Then the OM showed up. He doesn't even want to consider the fixed-elevation, because he'd still have to track . I suggested he leave the tracking to a computer...still not acceptable He then explained that they spend a lot of time in a motorhome. For his antennas now, he is using eggbeaters. On the 440 receive side, he is thankfully using a pre-amp, so he can hear adequately, For the transmit, he is using 50 watts into an eggbeater, and still can't be heard on the satellite. He told me one recommendation he was given was to increase the xmit power to 150 watts (*I visibly shuddered*) so as to overcome the non-directionality of the eggbeater. (And I explained why too much uplink power is bad for both FM and linear sats, in terms of bandwidth and power consumption on the satellite.) On further questioning, he knew about the PL tone to turn-on SO-50, but didn't know about the different PL to actually access the satellite on each transmission. I explained to him that it is like terrestrial repeaters; no matter how much power you run, the repeater won't "hear" you unless you transmit the PL every time. In a follow-up email the next day, I passed on the SO-50 operating guide (PDF) from the AMSAT website, and advised him to try programming his radio with the proper PL and frequencies for adjacent memories BEFORE consdering increasing transmit power. I really think his problem is not using PLs, rather than inadequate power levels on an omni antenna. My question is two-fold (I still need to follow-up with him). 1) For those of you successfully using eggbeaters for the uplink (and he is adamant about not using a yagi, despite my advice that the performance will suffer quite a bit with eggbeaters), what output power do you typically use? I think 50 watts into an eggbeater is probably still too much power, considering 5 watts into an Arrow is usually enough for successful communications. 2) I know that various power levels are suggested for various gain antennas, but I'm wondering what the suggested EIRP is for successful - not ones which would hog the satellite - uplinks. Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 13:23:24 2015 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:23:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/P contacts from NM & CO grids Message-ID: Thanks to all for the contacts we made last week while I was in DM57 (CO), DM66 (NM), DM67 (CO), and DM76 (NM.) It may be up to a week before these contacts are uploaded to Logbook of the World. Paper QSL requests with Self Addressed, Stamped Envelope (SASE) included will be answered within two weeks. 73, Clayton W5PFG From jamesduffey at comcast.net Mon Aug 3 14:06:46 2015 From: jamesduffey at comcast.net (James Duffey) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:06:46 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on xmit In-Reply-To: <003901d0cdee$bbef0a20$33cd1e60$@net> References: <003901d0cdee$bbef0a20$33cd1e60$@net> Message-ID: <51CA1C71-EC0B-4620-AC6E-018ED3025A9A@comcast.net> I wonder what kind of feed line he issuing. RG8X or smaller can really eat the power up. On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:17 AM, David wrote: > Philip, > I use M2 EggBeaters, both have preamps for receive... I use no more > than 10 watts and am heard fine, if and only if the sat is on a low pass > (i.e. less than 15 degrees above horizon) I may use 15 to 20 watts to be > heard.. 50 watts is way too much power and indicates another problem if > they cannot be heard.. > > My 2 cents > > David > KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Philip > Jenkins > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 7:54 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Why too much uplink power is bad/eggbeater antennas on > xmit > > The discussion on uplink power fits right in with a conversation I had last > weekend... > > While I was not wearing my AMSAT badge at a hamfest on July 25, a married > couple - both hams, both fairly recently licensed - recognized me from a > previous hamfest when I was wearing that badge. Their question for me was to > why they could hear (a) satellite(s), but no one could hear them... > > The satellite in question is SO-50 (and I did take a few minutes explaining > the difference between linear birds and FM-only ones). > > Before the OM joined us, his YL told me that her husband doesn't want to use > antennas like the Elk or Arrow, even on a tripod. I then suggested to her > that he consider a fixed elevation mount, so as to only have to track the > azimuth. > > Then the OM showed up. He doesn't even want to consider the fixed-elevation, > because he'd still have to track . I suggested he leave the tracking to a > computer...still not acceptable > > He then explained that they spend a lot of time in a motorhome. For his > antennas now, he is using eggbeaters. On the 440 receive side, he is > thankfully using a pre-amp, so he can hear adequately, > > For the transmit, he is using 50 watts into an eggbeater, and still can't be > heard on the satellite. He told me one recommendation he was given was to > increase the xmit power to 150 watts (*I visibly shuddered*) so as to > overcome the non-directionality of the eggbeater. (And I explained why too > much uplink power is bad for both FM and linear sats, in terms of bandwidth > and power consumption on the satellite.) > > On further questioning, he knew about the PL tone to turn-on SO-50, but > didn't know about the different PL to actually access the satellite on each > transmission. I explained to him that it is like terrestrial repeaters; no > matter how much power you run, the repeater won't "hear" you unless you > transmit the PL every time. > > In a follow-up email the next day, I passed on the SO-50 operating guide > (PDF) from the AMSAT website, and advised him to try programming his radio > with the proper PL and frequencies for adjacent memories BEFORE consdering > increasing transmit power. > > I really think his problem is not using PLs, rather than inadequate power > levels on an omni antenna. > > My question is two-fold (I still need to follow-up with him). 1) For those > of you successfully using eggbeaters for the uplink (and he is adamant about > not using a yagi, despite my advice that the performance will suffer quite a > bit with eggbeaters), what output power do you typically use? I think 50 > watts into an eggbeater is probably still too much power, considering 5 > watts into an Arrow is usually enough for successful communications. > > 2) I know that various power levels are suggested for various gain antennas, > but I'm wondering what the suggested EIRP is for successful - not ones which > would hog the satellite - uplinks. > > Philip N4HF > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon Aug 3 17:06:21 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] cn76 fo29 Message-ID: <1653655220.9213771.1438621581086.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I plan to be on at 2011z,2153z,2339z my satpc32 crashed (murphy). will someone send me a quickie sat tracker link 73 Bob CN76 From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 17:30:37 2015 From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:30:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Turned On? Message-ID: New website update on AO-27, *Aug 1, 2015* Turned on low power during first pass. Had good tone, received a few TLM frames but then lost commanding of it as it came over the US. Seems to have major interference on uplink while over the US. It faded mid pass and was not heard from for the rest of the pass. Sent off commands in the blind. Don't know if the TX turned off or not. The good news is it was at least heard from after last weekend's problems. - Michael, N3UC http://www2.umbrasi.com/ 73's KE8AKW From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon Aug 3 17:56:17 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] so50 cn76 Message-ID: <730533460.9249218.1438624577692.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I will try so50 at 1848Z 73 bob w7lrd cn76 From ki0gqrp at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 18:27:00 2015 From: ki0gqrp at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 12:27:00 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO83, 84 orbit Message-ID: Is there site where I can get orbit information? My program does not list these. Bob From mail at mike-rupprecht.de Mon Aug 3 19:39:21 2015 From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:39:21 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO83, 84 orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14ef5134288.27c4.fb3187313e361abc70373d48d0fdd1a9@mike-rupprecht.de> http://www.dk3wn.info/tle/amateur.txt 73 Mike Gesendet mit AquaMail f?r Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Am 3. August 2015 21:30:40 schrieb Bob : > Is there site where I can get orbit information? My program does not list > these. > > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Mon Aug 3 19:53:02 2015 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:53:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO83, 84 orbit Message-ID: Please note that Mike's list identifies these spacecraft as BRICSAT and PSAT respectively. They are identified as NO-83 and NO-84 on the AMSAT site http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt -Joe From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 3 21:08:02 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:08:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? Message-ID: AO-7 was sounding pretty good. Very strong signals over North America around 2200Z, I was having a nice QSO with KC4LE, reducing my power to 1 watt when my signal started to warble a bit, until someone started CQing in CW with such a strong signal that the whole passband was pulsing up and down. Eventually the Mode B transponder shut off under the strain. Using excessive power on a linear transponder is a violation of two sections of Part 97: using minimum power necessary to complete the communcations and causing harmful interference to other stations. We need an ARRL OO to listen to a few passes and send some OO notices! 73, Paul, N8HM From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 3 21:09:40 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:09:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That should be 2100Z... On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > AO-7 was sounding pretty good. Very strong signals over North America > around 2200Z, I was having a nice QSO with KC4LE, reducing my power to > 1 watt when my signal started to warble a bit, until someone started > CQing in CW with such a strong signal that the whole passband was > pulsing up and down. Eventually the Mode B transponder shut off under > the strain. > > Using excessive power on a linear transponder is a violation of two > sections of Part 97: using minimum power necessary to complete the > communcations and causing harmful interference to other stations. We > need an ARRL OO to listen to a few passes and send some OO notices! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon Aug 3 21:16:14 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] cn76primit Message-ID: <41602768.9383121.1438636574977.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> had some rx problems last pass-will be on at 2153z- jury rugged set up will work on it. 73 Bob-cn76 From gzook at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 21:59:46 2015 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <577626766.586658.1438639186392.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Unfortunately, the technical portions, of 47 CFR Part 97, are extremely vague and are, in most cases, open for interpretation. ?For example, 47 CFR Part 97 Section 97.101(d) reads as follows: ?(d) No amateur operator shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or signal. Most operators do not know if they are running too much power. ?Depending on the distance from the satellite, to the transmitting station, running exactly the same power level, on different passes, may result in not enough signal to make a reliable contact to enough power to overload the transponder. ?The interpretation most usually applied to this regulation, is the deliberate, on frequency (or extremely close in frequency) operation with the purpose, in mind, of causing interference with another station. ?Also, operating on the same frequency may not be detected by a particular station because of Doppler shift being different between the stations involved. 47 CFR Part 97 Section 97.313(a) reads as follows: (a) An amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications. However, the interpretation of "desired communications" is not defined. ?As such, one station may only desire an extremely hard to copy signal, right at the noise level, whereas, another station may desire "arm chair" copy. ?In each case, the definition of "desired communications" has been met and the effect, on the satellite, is completely different. The only real solution is for each operator to use his/her 6th and 7th senses. ?Man is born with the usual sight, feel, smell, touch, and hearing. ?However, there are 2-additional senses with which people are born: ?Common sense and horse sense! Unfortunately, the 6th, as well as the 7th, sense is often lost, over the years, and, as such, do not play the very important role that they were intended.?Glen, K9STH Website: http://k9sth.net From: Paul Stoetzer To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 4:08 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? AO-7 was sounding pretty good. Very strong signals over North America around 2200Z, I was having a nice QSO with KC4LE, reducing my power to 1 watt when my signal started to warble a bit, until someone started CQing in CW with such a strong signal that the whole passband was pulsing up and down. Eventually the Mode B transponder shut off under the strain. Using excessive power on a linear transponder is a violation of two sections of Part 97: using minimum power necessary to complete the communcations and causing harmful interference to other stations. We need an ARRL OO to listen to a few passes and send some OO notices! 73, Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gzook at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 22:02:37 2015 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? In-Reply-To: <577626766.586658.1438639186392.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <577626766.586658.1438639186392.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <373613616.569472.1438639358028.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Forgot "taste" and included "touch" twice!?Glen, K9STH Website: http://k9sth.net From: Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB To: Paul Stoetzer ; "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? Unfortunately, the technical portions, of 47 CFR Part 97, are extremely vague and are, in most cases, open for interpretation. ?For example, 47 CFR Part 97 Section 97.101(d) reads as follows: ?(d) No amateur operator shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or signal. Most operators do not know if they are running too much power. ?Depending on the distance from the satellite, to the transmitting station, running exactly the same power level, on different passes, may result in not enough signal to make a reliable contact to enough power to overload the transponder. ?The interpretation most usually applied to this regulation, is the deliberate, on frequency (or extremely close in frequency) operation with the purpose, in mind, of causing interference with another station. ?Also, operating on the same frequency may not be detected by a particular station because of Doppler shift being different between the stations involved. 47 CFR Part 97 Section 97.313(a) reads as follows: (a) An amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications. However, the interpretation of "desired communications" is not defined. ?As such, one station may only desire an extremely hard to copy signal, right at the noise level, whereas, another station may desire "arm chair" copy. ?In each case, the definition of "desired communications" has been met and the effect, on the satellite, is completely different. The only real solution is for each operator to use his/her 6th and 7th senses. ?Man is born with the usual sight, feel, smell, touch, and hearing. ?However, there are 2-additional senses with which people are born: ?Common sense and horse sense! Unfortunately, the 6th, as well as the 7th, sense is often lost, over the years, and, as such, do not play the very important role that they were intended.?Glen, K9STH Website: http://k9sth.net ? ? ? From: Paul Stoetzer To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 4:08 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? ? AO-7 was sounding pretty good. Very strong signals over North America around 2200Z, I was having a nice QSO with KC4LE, reducing my power to 1 watt when my signal started to warble a bit, until someone started CQing in CW with such a strong signal that the whole passband was pulsing up and down. Eventually the Mode B transponder shut off under the strain. Using excessive power on a linear transponder is a violation of two sections of Part 97: using minimum power necessary to complete the communcations and causing harmful interference to other stations. We need an ARRL OO to listen to a few passes and send some OO notices! 73, Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 00:02:15 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:02:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Message-ID: <008101d0ce48$d27710d0$77653270$@net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN ANS-216 In this edition: * RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Announcement November 2016 SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-216.01 ANS-216 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. August 4, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-216.01 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Announcement November 2016 AMSAT has been notified by Scott Higginbotham, Mission Manager for ELaNa-12 (Fox-1A launch) and ELaNa-14 (RadFxSat/Fox-1B launch) in NASA's Launch Services Program at Kennedy Space Center, "The ELaNa-14 CubeSat complement is scheduled to fly along with NOAA's JPSS-1 spacecraft on a Delta II that will be launching from VAFB on November 15, 2016. Due to a number of CubeSats recently dropping off of the manifest for this flight, a door has been opened, and it is my pleasure to inform you that your respective CubeSats (RadFXSat, GoldenEagle-1, EagleSat, and MiRaTA) have all been officially added to the manifest." AMSAT will begin working with Tyvak, the CubeSat Dispenser and Dispenser Integration Contractor for this flight. Additional news regarding the schedule milestones toward meeting launch requirements will be released as more information becomes available. In a message sent to AMSAT Vice President Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N0JY, Higginbotham concluded, "Congratulations and welcome aboard!" Planned Frequencies for the Fox-1 FM Series Cubesats -------------------------------------------------------------- Uplink FM (67 Hz tone) Downlink FM ---------------------------- ----------- Fox-1A 435.180 MHz 145.980 MHz RadFxSat/Fox-1B * 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz * Pending IARU Coordination, Changes will be announced ** Switchable by command station, not operational simultaneously Download the Fox-1A Operating Guide from the AMSAT Station and Operating Hints page: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144 [ANS thanks NASA and Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT Vice President Engineering for the above information] /EX From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 4 00:13:09 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:13:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: <008101d0ce48$d27710d0$77653270$@net> References: <008101d0ce48$d27710d0$77653270$@net> Message-ID: Great news! 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:02 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: > AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN > ANS-216 > > In this edition: > > * RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Announcement November 2016 > > > SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-216.01 > ANS-216 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin > > AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.01 > From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. > August 4, 2015 > To All RADIO AMATEURS > BID: $ANS-216.01 > > RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Announcement November 2016 > > AMSAT has been notified by Scott Higginbotham, Mission Manager for ELaNa-12 > (Fox-1A launch) and ELaNa-14 (RadFxSat/Fox-1B launch) in NASA's Launch > Services Program at Kennedy Space Center, "The ELaNa-14 CubeSat complement > is scheduled to fly along with NOAA's JPSS-1 spacecraft on a Delta II that > will be launching from VAFB on November 15, 2016. Due to a number of > CubeSats recently dropping off of the manifest for this flight, a door has > been opened, and it is my pleasure to inform you that your respective > CubeSats (RadFXSat, GoldenEagle-1, EagleSat, and MiRaTA) have all been > officially added to the manifest." > > AMSAT will begin working with Tyvak, the CubeSat Dispenser and Dispenser > Integration Contractor for this flight. Additional news regarding the > schedule milestones toward meeting launch requirements will be released as > more information becomes available. > > In a message sent to AMSAT Vice President Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N0JY, > Higginbotham concluded, "Congratulations and welcome aboard!" > > Planned Frequencies for the Fox-1 FM Series Cubesats > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Uplink FM (67 Hz tone) Downlink FM > ---------------------------- ----------- > Fox-1A 435.180 MHz 145.980 MHz > RadFxSat/Fox-1B * 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz > Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz > > * Pending IARU Coordination, Changes will be announced > ** Switchable by command station, not operational simultaneously > > Download the Fox-1A Operating Guide from the AMSAT Station and > Operating Hints page: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144 > > [ANS thanks NASA and Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT Vice President Engineering > for the above information] > > /EX > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w7lrd at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 02:06:32 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 02:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] cn76 Message-ID: <700720302.9527904.1438653992463.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> too many "murphy's" I was hearing stations the last couple of pass, could not get into the bird. Will still be here through Tues. afternoon..Will try. It worked from my driveway but not here 73 Bob W7LRD CN76 From Mvivona at yahoo.com Tue Aug 4 03:33:46 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:33:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO83, 84 orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03FF548F-47E7-44B4-83B1-74FCA5300356@yahoo.com> "GoSatWatch" for me is the cat's meow. iPad or iPhone. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Joe Fitzgerald wrote: Please note that Mike's list identifies these spacecraft as BRICSAT and PSAT respectively. They are identified as NO-83 and NO-84 on the AMSAT site http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt -Joe _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From Mvivona at yahoo.com Tue Aug 4 03:38:05 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:38:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39CD5BA1-F54F-481D-990A-E1189146A203@yahoo.com> Yes, I heard the same thing. It made it very difficult to understand the voice contact as the audio went all wobbly. And I also detected the CW splatter. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: That should be 2100Z... > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > AO-7 was sounding pretty good. Very strong signals over North America > around 2200Z, I was having a nice QSO with KC4LE, reducing my power to > 1 watt when my signal started to warble a bit, until someone started > CQing in CW with such a strong signal that the whole passband was > pulsing up and down. Eventually the Mode B transponder shut off under > the strain. > > Using excessive power on a linear transponder is a violation of two > sections of Part 97: using minimum power necessary to complete the > communcations and causing harmful interference to other stations. We > need an ARRL OO to listen to a few passes and send some OO notices! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk0sd at tnics.com Tue Aug 4 04:10:00 2015 From: kk0sd at tnics.com (Gary Mayfield) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 23:10:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01c901d0ce6b$6e96e630$4bc4b290$@com> If you could copy the cq could you copy the call? At 432 MHz the AO-7 uplink is actually in the weak signal part of the band. It is very possible a weak signal station unknowingly did this... A friendly email to the station may help! 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:08 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? AO-7 was sounding pretty good. Very strong signals over North America around 2200Z, I was having a nice QSO with KC4LE, reducing my power to 1 watt when my signal started to warble a bit, until someone started CQing in CW with such a strong signal that the whole passband was pulsing up and down. Eventually the Mode B transponder shut off under the strain. Using excessive power on a linear transponder is a violation of two sections of Part 97: using minimum power necessary to complete the communcations and causing harmful interference to other stations. We need an ARRL OO to listen to a few passes and send some OO notices! 73, Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pa3guo at upcmail.nl Tue Aug 4 08:17:17 2015 From: pa3guo at upcmail.nl (=?UTF-8?B?UEEzR1VP?=) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:17:17 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?AMSAT_News_Service_Special_Bulletin_-_ANS-21?= =?utf-8?q?6_RadFXSat/Fox-1B_Launch_Opportunity?= Message-ID: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> High time to get 23cm equipment including antennas operational again! Excellent news! Which will be the first 15 stations that can report they are ready for this? Henk, PA3GUO > Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz From wa4sca at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 10:09:55 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 05:09:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> References: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> Message-ID: <000701d0ce9d$b683e970$238bbc50$@GMAIL.COM> Henk, 1267.300 MHz---READY! Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** <145.880 MHz <_______________________________________________ References: <37BDC8A892C1465E8495B3B9AEAD7561@allgood.local> <55B228F4.3030002@zoho.com> Message-ID: <55C098A0.9070505@zoho.com> Hi Folks, I have just switched FUNcube-1 back to auto mode (approx 1045 UTC). Apologies for the delay we normally aim to do this on Sunday evenings, but we unable to do so before now due to command station availability. 73s Jim G3WGM From peter at m3php.com Tue Aug 4 11:01:28 2015 From: peter at m3php.com (Peter Goodhall) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:01:28 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> References: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> Message-ID: Ready to go just need a satellite to use :-) 73 Pete, 2E0SQL On 4 August 2015 at 09:17, PA3GUO wrote: > > High time to get 23cm equipment including antennas operational again! > Excellent news! > Which will be the first 15 stations that can report they are ready for this? > Henk, PA3GUO >> Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 4 11:28:27 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 07:28:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [ans] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: References: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> Message-ID: Not ready yet, but will be looking forward to the planned AMSAT L-band upconverter to hopefully use on Fox-1C, Fox-1D, and FUNcube on ESEO. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tuesday, August 4, 2015, Peter Goodhall wrote: > Ready to go just need a satellite to use :-) > > 73 > > Pete, 2E0SQL > > On 4 August 2015 at 09:17, PA3GUO > > wrote: > > > > High time to get 23cm equipment including antennas operational again! > > Excellent news! > > Which will be the first 15 stations that can report they are ready for > this? > > Henk, PA3GUO > >> Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 > MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Tue Aug 4 10:59:13 2015 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 06:59:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: <55C0901C.2030600@burlingtontelecom.net> References: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> <000701d0ce9d$b683e970$238bbc50$@GMAIL.COM> <55C0901C.2030600@burlingtontelecom.net> Message-ID: <55C09B01.7030905@burlingtontelecom.net> Ready as well. Mike, N1JEZ > On 8/4/2015 6:09 AM, Alan wrote: >> Henk, >> >> 1267.300 MHz---READY! >> >> Alan >> WA4SCA >> >> >> <-----Original Message----- >> > > > > RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch >> > < >> < >> > > > for this? >> > <> Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 >> MHz/1267.350 MHz ** >> <145.880 MHz -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From sats at pe1rdw.demon.nl Tue Aug 4 12:31:02 2015 From: sats at pe1rdw.demon.nl (Andre) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:31:02 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> References: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> Message-ID: <55C0B086.70208@pe1rdw.demon.nl> Only missing an elevation rotor to use 23 cm sats. 73 de Andre PE1RDW Op 04-08-15 om 10:17 schreef PA3GUO: > > High time to get 23cm equipment including antennas operational again! > Excellent news! > Which will be the first 15 stations that can report they are ready for this? > Henk, PA3GUO >> Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From g0mrf at aol.com Tue Aug 4 12:29:28 2015 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 08:29:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [ans] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <14ef8b01c52-6cd8-31a09@webprd-a11.mail.aol.com> Ready here. Even bought a new L band 10 turn helix antenna. 1263.500 ESEO / 1267. xxx Fox 73 David G0MRF -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer To: peter CC: amsat-bb ; PA3GUO Sent: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:28 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [ans] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Not ready yet, but will be looking forward to the planned AMSAT L-band upconverter to hopefully use on Fox-1C, Fox-1D, and FUNcube on ESEO. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tuesday, August 4, 2015, Peter Goodhall wrote: > Ready to go just need a satellite to use :-) > > 73 > > Pete, 2E0SQL > > On 4 August 2015 at 09:17, PA3GUO > > wrote: > > > > High time to get 23cm equipment including antennas operational again! > > Excellent news! > > Which will be the first 15 stations that can report they are ready for > this? > > Henk, PA3GUO > >> Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 > MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca Tue Aug 4 13:49:04 2015 From: lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca (Luc Leblanc) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:49:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> References: <1438676237.330001662@f9.my.com> Message-ID: <55C0C2D0.14560.C2B34@lucleblanc6.videotron.ca> 24 elements loop yagi is ready just have to connect the coax line to the shack. > > High time to get 23cm equipment including antennas operational again! > Excellent news! > Which will be the first 15 stations that can report they are ready for this? > Henk, PA3GUO > > Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz > _______________________________________________ Luc Leblanc VE2DWE From sford at arrl.org Tue Aug 4 13:54:51 2015 From: sford at arrl.org (Ford, Steve, WB8IMY) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:54:51 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Last Call for Papers: ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference Message-ID: <6BDF4F7F3613DC4E90A42F93921B47BD1755CBBB@EXCHANGE.ARRLHQ.ORG> We're soliciting technical papers for presentation at the 34th Annual ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference, to be held October 9-11 in Chicago, Illinois. Papers will also be published in the Conference Proceedings. You do not have to attend the conference to have your paper included in the Proceedings. The submission deadline is August 17, 2015. E-mail your submission to Maty Weinberg at ARRL Headquarters at maty at arrl.org. Please to do not send zip files as these will be rejected by our e-mail server. From afesan at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 14:25:45 2015 From: afesan at gmail.com (afesan at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:25:45 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Message-ID: I?ll be back on satellites (after 7 years off) with (also) 23cm operational.. Planned mount all the antennas & station in September-October. Antonio (EA1IW) -----Mensaje original----- From: Luc Leblanc Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:49 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity 24 elements loop yagi is ready just have to connect the coax line to the shack. > > High time to get 23cm equipment including antennas operational again! > Excellent news! > Which will be the first 15 stations that can report they are ready for > this? > Henk, PA3GUO > > Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 > > MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz > _______________________________________________ Luc Leblanc VE2DWE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From my.callsign at verizon.net Tue Aug 4 14:25:54 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 07:25:54 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216, RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Message-ID: <55C0CB72.3040506@verizon.net> 23cm 1267.300 Ready & Tested KO6TZ Bob DM13 So. Calif High time to get 23cm equipment including antennas operational again! Excellent news! Which will be the first 15 stations that can report they are ready for this? Henk, PA3GUO >/Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz > Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz / From dwarnberg at verizon.net Tue Aug 4 15:32:13 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:32:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm Message-ID: <002f01d0ceca$bcb10da0$361328e0$@net> I see lots of talk about some new sats going up that will be utilizing 23cm. so I have some questions.. first let me explain what I have setup currently. 1) Icom IC-9100 (23cm module not added yet) 2) M2 eggbeaters (70cm and 2m) with preamps So I am contemplating adding the 23cm add on for the 9100 but perplexed about an antenna. suggestions? Thanks David, KK4QOE From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Tue Aug 4 15:40:21 2015 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:40:21 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm In-Reply-To: <002f01d0ceca$bcb10da0$361328e0$@net> References: <002f01d0ceca$bcb10da0$361328e0$@net> Message-ID: <371b0a93d51a78f98a2744ca0776ed0d@burlingtontelecom.net> Hi David, It comes down to whether you want to build or buy. If you want to build, a helix is one way. If you want to buy, check out the loop yagis from Directive Systems. Be aware, you want the loop yagis that cover the satellite uplink band rather than terrestrial operation which is at 1296 MHz. I use a Directive Systems 45 element loop yagi and ~80 watts. Mike --- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" On 2015-08-04 11:32, David wrote: > I see lots of talk about some new sats going up that will be utilizing > 23cm. > so I have some questions.. first let me explain what I have setup > currently. > > 1) Icom IC-9100 (23cm module not added yet) > > 2) M2 eggbeaters (70cm and 2m) with preamps > > So I am contemplating adding the 23cm add on for the 9100 but perplexed > about an antenna. suggestions? > > Thanks > > David, KK4QOE From w7lrd at comcast.net Tue Aug 4 16:21:01 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] cn76 Message-ID: <2066410749.9849242.1438705261153.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> tried so-50 last pass-heard several (hi Glenn)- no access, must have issue with 2M arrow. Better luck next time- 73 Bob W7LRD CN76 From whattwood at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 16:36:21 2015 From: whattwood at gmail.com (Bill Attwood) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:36:21 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Summary of SO-50 Ops from DO21/31 Message-ID: <55C0EA05.5070205@gmail.com> Thanks to all who worked me from the DO21/DO31 line yesterday evening - it was a busy but enjoyable pass. My apologies to N6SPP and KA4H who were both working from portable locations as well! Unfortunately Eric didn't hear most of the calls directed his way :-( I was operating from my truck (photo posted on twitter) using the mobile radio and ATAS antenna for TX. RX consisted of the UHF side of an arrow with my Alinco DJ582 HT. One lesson learned is that I would have been better off using the VHF side of the arrow for TX because as SO-50 dropped to 5 or 6 degrees to the SE I was able to jump up onto the roof of my topper and extend RX for a minute, but the TX no longer had line of sight. I had also tried FO-29 just before the SO-50 pass with no successful contacts (half duplex is not conducive to the scenario) Here are the stations I was able to work (12 on 1 pass is probably a personal best!): WA7HQD WC7V KL7XJ K6FW K6YK N6UK N6SPP K8YSE W5CBF WA5KBH AA5PK KA4H I also heard N4UFO and NX9B call me at the end but couldn't TX back in at that point. The QSO's have all been uploaded to LoTW. 73! Bill VE6WK --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From on4cjq at telenet.be Tue Aug 4 20:06:16 2015 From: on4cjq at telenet.be (on4cjq at telenet.be) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 22:06:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity In-Reply-To: <1986574179.2837082.1438718668567.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> References: <008101d0ce48$d27710d0$77653270$@net> <1986574179.2837082.1438718668567.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1231646234.2840046.1438718776939.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Homemade cross yagi's:2*5 on VHF, 2*9 on UHF and 2*19 on 23cm still up and working ok since last weekend-test,all RHCP. Planning to put up X-Quads or reduced Maspro system. 73's Jerry,ON4CJQ ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "JoAnne Maenpaa" Aan: "AMSAT BB" Verzonden: Dinsdag 4 augustus 2015 02:02:15 Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - ANS-216 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN ANS-216 In this edition: * RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Announcement November 2016 SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-216.01 ANS-216 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. August 4, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-216.01 RadFXSat/Fox-1B Launch Opportunity Announcement November 2016 AMSAT has been notified by Scott Higginbotham, Mission Manager for ELaNa-12 (Fox-1A launch) and ELaNa-14 (RadFxSat/Fox-1B launch) in NASA's Launch Services Program at Kennedy Space Center, "The ELaNa-14 CubeSat complement is scheduled to fly along with NOAA's JPSS-1 spacecraft on a Delta II that will be launching from VAFB on November 15, 2016. Due to a number of CubeSats recently dropping off of the manifest for this flight, a door has been opened, and it is my pleasure to inform you that your respective CubeSats (RadFXSat, GoldenEagle-1, EagleSat, and MiRaTA) have all been officially added to the manifest." AMSAT will begin working with Tyvak, the CubeSat Dispenser and Dispenser Integration Contractor for this flight. Additional news regarding the schedule milestones toward meeting launch requirements will be released as more information becomes available. In a message sent to AMSAT Vice President Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N0JY, Higginbotham concluded, "Congratulations and welcome aboard!" Planned Frequencies for the Fox-1 FM Series Cubesats -------------------------------------------------------------- Uplink FM (67 Hz tone) Downlink FM ---------------------------- ----------- Fox-1A 435.180 MHz 145.980 MHz RadFxSat/Fox-1B * 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz/1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz/1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz * Pending IARU Coordination, Changes will be announced ** Switchable by command station, not operational simultaneously Download the Fox-1A Operating Guide from the AMSAT Station and Operating Hints page: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144 [ANS thanks NASA and Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT Vice President Engineering for the above information] /EX _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar Tue Aug 4 20:40:48 2015 From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:40:48 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] report rx: NO-84 Message-ID: 2:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:36:56R] UTC T#003,799,073,515,887,825,00011100 73s de LW8EXS From w5pfg at amsat.org Tue Aug 4 22:28:57 2015 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:28:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? In-Reply-To: <01c901d0ce6b$6e96e630$4bc4b290$@com> References: <01c901d0ce6b$6e96e630$4bc4b290$@com> Message-ID: <55C13CA9.7080804@amsat.org> The sad part is the worst offenders are repeat offenders. They aren't people who are new to satellites. They aren't people new to ham radio. They are experienced operators who refuse to accept any responsibility when it comes to their poor operating practices. Publishing their call signs on the front cover of QST wouldn't matter because the worst, repeat offenders simply refuse to acknowledge the problem. They live along a river known as DENIAL. Occasionally many of us, myself included, are caught running too much uplink power. Perhaps it's a high elevation pass. As Paul N8HM pointed out, sometimes 5 watts into an Arrow is too much! 73, Clayton W5PFG On 8/3/2015 23:10, Gary Mayfield wrote: > If you could copy the cq could you copy the call? > > At 432 MHz the AO-7 uplink is actually in the weak signal part of the band. > It is very possible a weak signal station unknowingly did this... > > A friendly email to the station may help! > > 73, > Joe kk0sd > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul > Stoetzer > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:08 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? > > AO-7 was sounding pretty good. Very strong signals over North America > around 2200Z, I was having a nice QSO with KC4LE, reducing my power to > 1 watt when my signal started to warble a bit, until someone started > CQing in CW with such a strong signal that the whole passband was > pulsing up and down. Eventually the Mode B transponder shut off under > the strain. > > Using excessive power on a linear transponder is a violation of two > sections of Part 97: using minimum power necessary to complete the > communcations and causing harmful interference to other stations. We > need an ARRL OO to listen to a few passes and send some OO notices! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- www.w5pfg.us Twitter: @w5pfg From n0jy at amsat.org Tue Aug 4 23:17:25 2015 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:17:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Are we ever going to learn? In-Reply-To: <55C13CA9.7080804@amsat.org> References: <01c901d0ce6b$6e96e630$4bc4b290$@com> <55C13CA9.7080804@amsat.org> Message-ID: <55C14805.4010304@amsat.org> I will say that I've almost pooped my pants once or twice when I realize I forgot to dial down the 736 after working a low pass or some terrestrial stuff and realize I'm putting out 10W or more to the satellite antennas thanks to your expert way of expressing the need to watch your power levels, Clayton! ;-) Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/4/2015 17:28, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > > > Occasionally many of us, myself included, are caught running too much > uplink power. Perhaps it's a high elevation pass. As Paul N8HM > pointed out, sometimes 5 watts into an Arrow is too much! > From zleffke at vt.edu Wed Aug 5 05:12:01 2015 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 01:12:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm In-Reply-To: <002f01d0ceca$bcb10da0$361328e0$@net> Message-ID: <5447a2de-0293-4e4a-a794-96092b3558f4@email.android.com> Directive Systems and engineering has loop yagis specifically for the amateur satellite service in this band.? It is what we will be using in the Virginia Tech ground station.?? No feedback yet on performance (we're not up yet) but they look very well made and the folks at the company are fantastic and they have a great reputation with their antennas at microwave and up.? They are fairly compact and lightweight as well and could likely be added to a G5500 style setup with ease and minimal additional strain on the motors. I'm not aware of any omnis for this band off the top of my head, but being that it is an uplink only allocation, lack of gain and increased path loss could be made up for with power (bearing in mind the recent threads on proper uplink power levels).? Consider though that there is about 18.8dB and 9.7dB of additional path loss over VHF and UHF respectively.?? Assuming similar rx gains and noise performance on the bird at 23cm, as well as atmo/iono losses, that additional loss will have to be overcome on the ground, either with increased antenna gains, or with increased power. Given that the 9100 makes about 10W on 23cm, it may be time for a decision.? a) 23cm module plus fairly beefy amp plus homebrew omni, or b) 23cm module plus rotator system plus well built (and factory tuned) yagi. Personally, I'd recommend option b with rotator plus beam plus lower power, mainly because antenna gain is easy/cheap at 23cm and PAs can be expensive/tricky at 23cm,? but I have access to existing rotator systems which bias my opinions. My two cents.... Also it might be interesting to see some more rigorous analysis and antenna designs for 23cm (omnis and beams).? Maybe comparisons of various omnis and various beams and how they affect G/T (imagine a cute little lindenblad or turnstyle or eggbeater for 23cm and how physically small it would be compared to what we are used to at VHF/UHF, it would be roughly a third of the size of its UHF equivalent!). Once we can get some details from the Fox engineering crew or Ops crew on the expected performance of the uplink receiver on 23cm, could make for a good article or two for the Journal (especially the bit on 'microwave omnis' and their feasibility, I'm sure the eng/ops crew has or will have a solid handle on the overall receiver performance and link budgets). -Zach, KJ4QLP On Aug 4, 2015 11:32 AM, David wrote: > > I see lots of talk about some new sats going up that will be utilizing 23cm. > so I have some questions..? first let me explain what I have setup > currently. > > 1)????? Icom IC-9100 (23cm module not added yet) > > 2)????? M2 eggbeaters (70cm and 2m) with preamps > > > > So I am contemplating adding the 23cm add on for the 9100 but perplexed > about an antenna. suggestions? > > > > Thanks > > > > David, KK4QOE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From zleffke at vt.edu Wed Aug 5 05:20:04 2015 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 01:20:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm In-Reply-To: <5447a2de-0293-4e4a-a794-96092b3558f4@email.android.com> Message-ID: <6bdfebce-bca8-4920-ab76-3eefa7f33a44@email.android.com> Sorry, typo... G/T doesn't make sense since uplink only band....please substitute 'affect G/T' with 'affect overall link budgets' in my previous email. Apologies, its late and I need sleep. -Zach, KJ4QLP On Aug 5, 2015 1:12 AM, Zach Leffke wrote: > > Directive Systems and engineering has loop yagis specifically for the amateur satellite service in this band.? It is what we will be using in the Virginia Tech ground station.?? No feedback yet on performance (we're not up yet) but they look very well made and the folks at the company are fantastic and they have a great reputation with their antennas at microwave and up.? They are fairly compact and lightweight as well and could likely be added to a G5500 style setup with ease and minimal additional strain on the motors. > > I'm not aware of any omnis for this band off the top of my head, but being that it is an uplink only allocation, lack of gain and increased path loss could be made up for with power (bearing in mind the recent threads on proper uplink power levels).? Consider though that there is about 18.8dB and 9.7dB of additional path loss over VHF and UHF respectively.?? Assuming similar rx gains and noise performance on the bird at 23cm, as well as atmo/iono losses, that additional loss will have to be overcome on the ground, either with increased antenna gains, or with increased power. Given that the 9100 makes about 10W on 23cm, it may be time for a decision.? a) 23cm module plus fairly beefy amp plus homebrew omni, or b) 23cm module plus rotator system plus well built (and factory tuned) yagi. > > Personally, I'd recommend option b with rotator plus beam plus lower power, mainly because antenna gain is easy/cheap at 23cm and PAs can be expensive/tricky at 23cm,? but I have access to existing rotator systems which bias my opinions. > > My two cents.... > > Also it might be interesting to see some more rigorous analysis and antenna designs for 23cm (omnis and beams).? Maybe comparisons of various omnis and various beams and how they affect G/T (imagine a cute little lindenblad or turnstyle or eggbeater for 23cm and how physically small it would be compared to what we are used to at VHF/UHF, it would be roughly a third of the size of its UHF equivalent!). Once we can get some details from the Fox engineering crew or Ops crew on the expected performance of the uplink receiver on 23cm, could make for a good article or two for the Journal (especially the bit on 'microwave omnis' and their feasibility, I'm sure the eng/ops crew has or will have a solid handle on the overall receiver performance and link budgets). > > -Zach, KJ4QLP > > On Aug 4, 2015 11:32 AM, David wrote: > > > > I see lots of talk about some new sats going up that will be utilizing 23cm. > > so I have some questions..? first let me explain what I have setup > > currently. > > > > 1)????? Icom IC-9100 (23cm module not added yet) > > > > 2)????? M2 eggbeaters (70cm and 2m) with preamps > > > > > > > > So I am contemplating adding the 23cm add on for the 9100 but perplexed > > about an antenna. suggestions? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > David, KK4QOE > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr Wed Aug 5 07:16:34 2015 From: f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr (f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:16:34 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] news satellites, good ! Message-ID: Hi all Ready also with 10 Watts, h?lix antenna for 23 cm (Helix 23-2) 20 turns. See you soon, good DX satellite. 73 Claude F5GVA - JN18IT Satellite amateur radio station http://f5gva.pagesperso-orange.fr/ From dwarnberg at verizon.net Wed Aug 5 12:52:06 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 08:52:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm In-Reply-To: <6bdfebce-bca8-4920-ab76-3eefa7f33a44@email.android.com> References: <5447a2de-0293-4e4a-a794-96092b3558f4@email.android.com> <6bdfebce-bca8-4920-ab76-3eefa7f33a44@email.android.com> Message-ID: <000f01d0cf7d$88bd66c0$9a383440$@net> Zach, all... thanks very much for all the replies, it does give me some things to ponder... I do realize the add on 23cm module for the IC-9100 has only 10 watts output.. so it seems to limit my options or add more cost to the final setup... Again thanks everyone for the replies, as par for the course you guys are very helpful Thanks All David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: Zach Leffke [mailto:zleffke at vt.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:20 AM To: David Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm Sorry, typo... G/T doesn't make sense since uplink only band....please substitute 'affect G/T' with 'affect overall link budgets' in my previous email. Apologies, its late and I need sleep. -Zach, KJ4QLP On Aug 5, 2015 1:12 AM, Zach Leffke wrote: > > Directive Systems and engineering has loop yagis specifically for the amateur satellite service in this band. It is what we will be using in the Virginia Tech ground station. No feedback yet on performance (we're not up yet) but they look very well made and the folks at the company are fantastic and they have a great reputation with their antennas at microwave and up. They are fairly compact and lightweight as well and could likely be added to a G5500 style setup with ease and minimal additional strain on the motors. > > I'm not aware of any omnis for this band off the top of my head, but being that it is an uplink only allocation, lack of gain and increased path loss could be made up for with power (bearing in mind the recent threads on proper uplink power levels). Consider though that there is about 18.8dB and 9.7dB of additional path loss over VHF and UHF respectively. Assuming similar rx gains and noise performance on the bird at 23cm, as well as atmo/iono losses, that additional loss will have to be overcome on the ground, either with increased antenna gains, or with increased power. Given that the 9100 makes about 10W on 23cm, it may be time for a decision. a) 23cm module plus fairly beefy amp plus homebrew omni, or b) 23cm module plus rotator system plus well built (and factory tuned) yagi. > > Personally, I'd recommend option b with rotator plus beam plus lower power, mainly because antenna gain is easy/cheap at 23cm and PAs can be expensive/tricky at 23cm, but I have access to existing rotator systems which bias my opinions. > > My two cents.... > > Also it might be interesting to see some more rigorous analysis and antenna designs for 23cm (omnis and beams). Maybe comparisons of various omnis and various beams and how they affect G/T (imagine a cute little lindenblad or turnstyle or eggbeater for 23cm and how physically small it would be compared to what we are used to at VHF/UHF, it would be roughly a third of the size of its UHF equivalent!). Once we can get some details from the Fox engineering crew or Ops crew on the expected performance of the uplink receiver on 23cm, could make for a good article or two for the Journal (especially the bit on 'microwave omnis' and their feasibility, I'm sure the eng/ops crew has or will have a solid handle on the overall receiver performance and link budgets). > > -Zach, KJ4QLP > > On Aug 4, 2015 11:32 AM, David wrote: > > > > I see lots of talk about some new sats going up that will be utilizing 23cm. > > so I have some questions.. first let me explain what I have setup > > currently. > > > > 1) Icom IC-9100 (23cm module not added yet) > > > > 2) M2 eggbeaters (70cm and 2m) with preamps > > > > > > > > So I am contemplating adding the 23cm add on for the 9100 but > > perplexed about an antenna. suggestions? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > David, KK4QOE > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > > membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 5 14:19:20 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:19:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT launch scheduled between Sep 7th-9th Message-ID: Earlier this morning, the ARRL posted this update on the launch of nine CAMSAT amateur satellites, now scheduled for sometime between September 7th and 9th : http://www.arrl.org/news/chinese-amateur-radio-satellites-set-to-launch-in-early-september There's also a nice frequency chart for the nine amateur satellites on this launch: http://www.arrl.org/files/media/News/XW-2CAS-3%20Sats.pdf September should be a fun month! 73, Paul, N8HM From ewpereira at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 14:42:15 2015 From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:42:15 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT launch scheduled between Sep 7th-9th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the links, Paul. Some of the satellites have strange frequency allocations. 73, Edson PY2SDR --- - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together. - N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se trabalharmos juntos. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Earlier this morning, the ARRL posted this update on the launch of > nine CAMSAT amateur satellites, now scheduled for sometime between > September 7th and 9th : > > > http://www.arrl.org/news/chinese-amateur-radio-satellites-set-to-launch-in-early-september > > There's also a nice frequency chart for the nine amateur satellites on > this launch: > > http://www.arrl.org/files/media/News/XW-2CAS-3%20Sats.pdf > > September should be a fun month! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 5 14:45:34 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:45:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT launch scheduled between Sep 7th-9th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, the downlinks of XW-2A, XW-2B, and XW-2C are not within either the 144.3-144.5 or the 145.8-146.0 OSCAR subbands, which is unfortunate. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Edson W. R. Pereira wrote: > Thanks for the links, Paul. > > Some of the satellites have strange frequency allocations. > > 73, Edson PY2SDR > > > --- > - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together. > - N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se > trabalharmos juntos. > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> Earlier this morning, the ARRL posted this update on the launch of >> nine CAMSAT amateur satellites, now scheduled for sometime between >> September 7th and 9th : >> >> >> http://www.arrl.org/news/chinese-amateur-radio-satellites-set-to-launch-in-early-september >> >> There's also a nice frequency chart for the nine amateur satellites on >> this launch: >> >> http://www.arrl.org/files/media/News/XW-2CAS-3%20Sats.pdf >> >> September should be a fun month! >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 14:49:59 2015 From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com (Thomas Doyle) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:49:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas Message-ID: Reading the posts on the 23 cm antennas brought back some nightmares and a lingering question I have about antennas. As an undergrad in Electrical Engineering we had to take a course in Maxwell's equations. I really suffered through that course. I remember one thing that I have wondered about since then. Almost everything was based on comparisons to an isotropic radiator (dBi). Since I was a ham I had little interest in things that could not be built. When measuring the real gain of a real antenna it has to be compared to something like a dipole. Sometimes a gain is converted to dBi by adjusting for the fact that the reference was a dipole. Consider measuring the gain of an antenna for 70cm with the reference a dipole for 70cm. Suppose the gain is 10 dB. Now consider making exactly the same measurements on a 23cm antenna with the reference a dipole for 23 cm and finding the same 10 dB gain. At first glance it would seem that the two antennas would be equally effective. Another view is energy. If you are trying to receive a signal there is only a certain amount of energy that is distributed through space. The goal of the antenna is to pick up as much of this energy as possible and deliver it to the radio. There is a term 'effective aperture' Ae or more commonly 'capture area'. The antenna picks up the energy in its Ae. Ae is not just the physical size of the antenna but bigger antennas tend to have a bigger Ae. Ae also depends on gain - the higher the gain the bigger the Ae (big surprise). Here is my question. All other things being equal (ignore things like path loss) I believe that the 70 cm antenna with 10dB gain will deliver more energy to the radio than the 23 cm antenna with 10 dB gain. Bigger is better ? If this is wrong please do not fill a chalk board with Maxwell equations to convince me. If it is correct, is the difference simply related in a linear fashion to the difference in wavelength or is there more to it ? 73 W9KE Tom Doyle From ws4e at arrl.net Wed Aug 5 13:29:35 2015 From: ws4e at arrl.net (Don Hoover (WS4E)) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:29:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? Message-ID: Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the dual band Arrow Antenna? I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. Thanks. Don WS4E From davidahaworth at icloud.com Wed Aug 5 15:02:51 2015 From: davidahaworth at icloud.com (David Haworth) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 08:02:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> They look like 8-32 > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the dual > band Arrow Antenna? > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > Thanks. > Don > WS4E > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Clear and dark skies without RFI, David Haworth, WA9ONY http://www.stargazing.net/david davidahaworth at icloud.com From dwarnberg at verizon.net Wed Aug 5 15:29:08 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 11:29:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> Message-ID: <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so they would be a 1/4-20 David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David Haworth Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM To: Don Hoover (WS4E) Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? They look like 8-32 > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the > dual band Arrow Antenna? > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > Thanks. > Don > WS4E > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Clear and dark skies without RFI, David Haworth, WA9ONY http://www.stargazing.net/david davidahaworth at icloud.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 15:32:13 2015 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:32:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> Message-ID: The hole in the boom under the grip is 1/4-20, but element threads are different. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From db at db.net Wed Aug 5 15:57:55 2015 From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:57:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> Message-ID: <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: > If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so they > would be a 1/4-20 I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the elements themselves? I've not looked yet. > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David > Haworth > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM > To: Don Hoover (WS4E) > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > They look like 8-32 > > > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the > > dual band Arrow Antenna? > > > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > > > Thanks. > > Don > > WS4E > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > 73, > Clear and dark skies without RFI, > David Haworth, WA9ONY > http://www.stargazing.net/david > davidahaworth at icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 16:15:15 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:15:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> Message-ID: My arrow antenna is over 10 years old and several are bent as well. I wonder if it's worth it to get new ones? Does a little bend affect the performance that much? On Aug 5, 2015 12:05 PM, "Diane Bruce" wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: > > If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so they > > would be a 1/4-20 > > I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the > elements themselves? I've not looked yet. > > > > > David, KK4QOE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David > > Haworth > > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM > > To: Don Hoover (WS4E) > > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > > > They look like 8-32 > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the > > > dual band Arrow Antenna? > > > > > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > > > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Don > > > WS4E > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the > > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > 73, > > Clear and dark skies without RFI, > > David Haworth, WA9ONY > > http://www.stargazing.net/david > > davidahaworth at icloud.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > -- > - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From db at db.net Wed Aug 5 16:28:47 2015 From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:28:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> Message-ID: <20150805162847.GA85577@night.db.net> It's a bit of threaded rod in the end of an actual arrow (at least that's how the original article did it). You'd have a hard time rethreading the threaded rod and, I'm not sure you could easily remove the rod either to re-insert. On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 12:15:15PM -0400, John Brier wrote: > wonder if it's worth it to get new ones? Does a little bend affect the > performance that much? A little bend isn't going to be a big deal. 73 Diane VA3DB -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db From dwarnberg at verizon.net Wed Aug 5 16:33:04 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 12:33:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> Message-ID: <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> Ahh yes, my mistake... Anyway there is a spare parts list that came with the antenna (I have it) but it does not list size, it says 2 - 1/4 stud.. but that does not answer your question.. If you need this list or would like it I can scan it and post it or send it to you.. Sorry for the confusion David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: Diane Bruce [mailto:db at db.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:58 AM To: David Cc: 'David Haworth'; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: > If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so > they would be a 1/4-20 I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the elements themselves? I've not looked yet. > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David > Haworth > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM > To: Don Hoover (WS4E) > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > They look like 8-32 > > > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the > > dual band Arrow Antenna? > > > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > > > Thanks. > > Don > > WS4E > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not > > reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > 73, > Clear and dark skies without RFI, > David Haworth, WA9ONY > http://www.stargazing.net/david > davidahaworth at icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db From dwarnberg at verizon.net Wed Aug 5 16:51:15 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 12:51:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> Message-ID: <002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net> So you guys got me thinking, after looking at these elements and measuring it realized something... these look like Aluminum Arrow shafts, and the inserts might be the arrow broadhead insert.. which all parts are readily available at most sporting good stores for building you own arrows (yes I am a hunter and used to bow hunt) I will double check this and let you all know, I'll have to do this later today after I'm off work.. but if this is the case replacements should be very easily created. David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: David [mailto:dwarnberg at verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:39 PM To: 'David'; 'Diane Bruce' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? Actually I found it online.. here is the link... http://www.arrowantennas.com/parts/p146437-10.html David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:33 PM To: 'Diane Bruce' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? Ahh yes, my mistake... Anyway there is a spare parts list that came with the antenna (I have it) but it does not list size, it says 2 - 1/4 stud.. but that does not answer your question.. If you need this list or would like it I can scan it and post it or send it to you.. Sorry for the confusion David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: Diane Bruce [mailto:db at db.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:58 AM To: David Cc: 'David Haworth'; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: > If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so > they would be a 1/4-20 I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the elements themselves? I've not looked yet. > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David > Haworth > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM > To: Don Hoover (WS4E) > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > They look like 8-32 > > > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the > > dual band Arrow Antenna? > > > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > > > Thanks. > > Don > > WS4E > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not > > reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > 73, > Clear and dark skies without RFI, > David Haworth, WA9ONY > http://www.stargazing.net/david > davidahaworth at icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g0mrf at aol.com Wed Aug 5 17:00:07 2015 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:00:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT Frequency chaos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14efece44bd-15b4-37133@webprd-m49.mail.aol.com> Interesting. Only a few days ago there was a comment that a satellite launched 15 years ago was transmitting on 144.390 which was being used for weak signal meteor scatter in Europe. That was unintentional and in any case only sent a couple of very short beacons per minute. Now we see another satellite 'licensed' very recently using exactly the same frequency and a lot of other satellites transmitting on frequencies allocated to repeaters and other services. I presume the IARU were 'informed' of these frequencies rather than coordinating them. I wonder if the head of licensing in Bejing is the same chap who thought the Anti satellite missile test, that produced thousands of pieces of space debris, was a good idea. (rant over) David -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer To: amsat-bb Sent: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:19 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT launch scheduled between Sep 7th-9th Earlier this morning, the ARRL posted this update on the launch of nine CAMSAT amateur satellites, now scheduled for sometime between September 7th and 9th : http://www.arrl.org/news/chinese-amateur-radio-satellites-set-to-launch-in-early-september There's also a nice frequency chart for the nine amateur satellites on this launch: http://www.arrl.org/files/media/News/XW-2CAS-3%20Sats.pdf September should be a fun month! 73, Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From db at db.net Wed Aug 5 17:00:55 2015 From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:00:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> <002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net> Message-ID: <20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 12:51:15PM -0400, David wrote: > So you guys got me thinking, after looking at these elements and measuring > it realized something... these look like Aluminum Arrow shafts, and the > inserts might be the arrow broadhead insert.. which all parts are readily > available at most sporting good stores for building you own arrows (yes I am > a hunter and used to bow hunt) The commercialised Arrow design was based upon an article on using arrow shafts in an antenna. Not a surprise at all. ;) > > I will double check this and let you all know, I'll have to do this later > today after I'm off work.. but if this is the case replacements should be > very easily created. > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: David [mailto:dwarnberg at verizon.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:39 PM > To: 'David'; 'Diane Bruce' > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > Actually I found it online.. here is the link... > http://www.arrowantennas.com/parts/p146437-10.html > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:33 PM > To: 'Diane Bruce' > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > Ahh yes, my mistake... Anyway there is a spare parts list that came with the > antenna (I have it) but it does not list size, it says 2 - 1/4 stud.. but > that does not answer your question.. > > If you need this list or would like it I can scan it and post it or send it > to you.. > > Sorry for the confusion > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane Bruce [mailto:db at db.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:58 AM > To: David > Cc: 'David Haworth'; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: > > If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so > > they would be a 1/4-20 > > I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the > elements themselves? I've not looked yet. > > > > > David, KK4QOE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David > > Haworth > > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM > > To: Don Hoover (WS4E) > > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > > > They look like 8-32 > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the > > > dual band Arrow Antenna? > > > > > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > > > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Don > > > WS4E > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > membership. > > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not > > > reflect the > > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > > Subscription settings: > > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > 73, > > Clear and dark skies without RFI, > > David Haworth, WA9ONY > > http://www.stargazing.net/david > > davidahaworth at icloud.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > > the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > -- > - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db From david at rushtone.com Wed Aug 5 17:11:01 2015 From: david at rushtone.com (David Rush) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:11:01 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> <002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net> <20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net> Message-ID: <55C243A5.3070307@rushtone.com> I'm fairly certain that mine, purchased more than 10 years ago, is using actual arrow shafts, not something based on arrow shafts. And I'm 95% certain that it's 8-32 threaded rod that connects them. It looks like 8-32, and I pulled a random "this looks like an 8-32 nut" out of my bin of random machine screws and nuts, and it fit just fine. 73, David, ky7dr On 2015-08-05 11:00, Diane Bruce wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 12:51:15PM -0400, David wrote: >> So you guys got me thinking, after looking at these elements and measuring >> it realized something... these look like Aluminum Arrow shafts, and the >> inserts might be the arrow broadhead insert.. which all parts are readily >> available at most sporting good stores for building you own arrows (yes I am >> a hunter and used to bow hunt) > The commercialised Arrow design was based upon an article on using > arrow shafts in an antenna. > > Not a surprise at all. ;) > >> I will double check this and let you all know, I'll have to do this later >> today after I'm off work.. but if this is the case replacements should be >> very easily created. >> >> David, KK4QOE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David [mailto:dwarnberg at verizon.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:39 PM >> To: 'David'; 'Diane Bruce' >> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' >> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >> >> Actually I found it online.. here is the link... >> http://www.arrowantennas.com/parts/p146437-10.html >> >> David, KK4QOE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:33 PM >> To: 'Diane Bruce' >> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >> >> Ahh yes, my mistake... Anyway there is a spare parts list that came with the >> antenna (I have it) but it does not list size, it says 2 - 1/4 stud.. but >> that does not answer your question.. >> >> If you need this list or would like it I can scan it and post it or send it >> to you.. >> >> Sorry for the confusion >> >> David, KK4QOE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Diane Bruce [mailto:db at db.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:58 AM >> To: David >> Cc: 'David Haworth'; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >> >> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: >>> If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so >>> they would be a 1/4-20 >> I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the >> elements themselves? I've not looked yet. >> >>> David, KK4QOE >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David >>> Haworth >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM >>> To: Don Hoover (WS4E) >>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>> >>> They look like 8-32 >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the >>>> dual band Arrow Antenna? >>>> >>>> I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for >>>> replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Don >>>> WS4E >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >> membership. >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not >>>> reflect the >>> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>>> Subscription settings: >>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> 73, >>> Clear and dark skies without RFI, >>> David Haworth, WA9ONY >>> http://www.stargazing.net/david >>> davidahaworth at icloud.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>> the >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> -- >> - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Aug 5 17:27:08 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:27:08 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT Frequency chaos In-Reply-To: <14efece44bd-15b4-37133@webprd-m49.mail.aol.com> References: <14efece44bd-15b4-37133@webprd-m49.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: David, I noticed the frequency selections for all of those satellites. It is nice that we may have 6 transponders that don't have overlapping frequencies, which could make for some interesting times ("Which of the 6 will you be on?" - for example). Seeing how some of those downlinks are at and below 145.800 MHz could cause many new issues with terrestrial and (for 145.800 MHz) other space operations. Also seeing APRS at 144.390 MHz (North American APRS frequency) and an FM uplink at 144.350 MHz on LilacSat-2 (CAS-3H) won't make some any happier. CAMSAT filed for IARU frequency coordination in 2012: http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=264 but it doesn't appear to have gone anywhere past the filing step. I did not see frequencies listed on that web page, nor did I see the CAMSAT satellites anywhere else on that site. I can only guess the Chinese licensing authorities are making full use of the 144-146 MHz range that is permitted under the international (ITU) radio regulations for amateur satellite operation, regardless of the voluntary bandplans observed around the world. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > > Interesting. > > Only a few days ago there was a comment that a satellite launched 15 years ago was transmitting on 144.390 which was being used for weak signal meteor scatter in Europe. That was unintentional and in any case only sent a couple of very short beacons per minute. > > Now we see another satellite 'licensed' very recently using exactly the same frequency and a lot of other satellites transmitting on frequencies allocated to repeaters and other services. > > I presume the IARU were 'informed' of these frequencies rather than coordinating them. > > I wonder if the head of licensing in Bejing is the same chap who thought the Anti satellite missile test, that produced thousands of pieces of space debris, was a good idea. > > (rant over) > > David From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 5 17:32:11 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:32:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT Frequency chaos In-Reply-To: References: <14efece44bd-15b4-37133@webprd-m49.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: The CAMSAT filing you referenced is for the CAS-2 series not yet scheduled for a launch, not the CAS-3 series on this launch. LilacSat-2 has other frequencies coordinated: http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=395 The CAS-3 series is pending coordination here: On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > David, > > I noticed the frequency selections for all of those satellites. It is nice > that we may have 6 transponders that don't have overlapping frequencies, > which could make for some interesting times ("Which of the 6 will you be > on?" - for example). Seeing how some of those downlinks are at and below > 145.800 MHz could cause many new issues with terrestrial and (for > 145.800 MHz) other space operations. Also seeing APRS at 144.390 MHz > (North American APRS frequency) and an FM uplink at 144.350 MHz on > LilacSat-2 (CAS-3H) won't make some any happier. > > CAMSAT filed for IARU frequency coordination in 2012: > > http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=264 > > but it doesn't appear to have gone anywhere past the filing step. I did not > see frequencies listed on that web page, nor did I see the CAMSAT satellites > anywhere else on that site. I can only guess the Chinese licensing > authorities are making full use of the 144-146 MHz range that is permitted > under the international (ITU) radio regulations for amateur satellite > operation, regardless of the voluntary bandplans observed around the > world. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB > wrote: >> >> >> >> Interesting. >> >> Only a few days ago there was a comment that a satellite launched 15 years ago was transmitting on 144.390 which was being used for weak signal meteor scatter in Europe. That was unintentional and in any case only sent a couple of very short beacons per minute. >> >> Now we see another satellite 'licensed' very recently using exactly the same frequency and a lot of other satellites transmitting on frequencies allocated to repeaters and other services. >> >> I presume the IARU were 'informed' of these frequencies rather than coordinating them. >> >> I wonder if the head of licensing in Bejing is the same chap who thought the Anti satellite missile test, that produced thousands of pieces of space debris, was a good idea. >> >> (rant over) >> >> David > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 5 17:32:45 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:32:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT Frequency chaos In-Reply-To: References: <14efece44bd-15b4-37133@webprd-m49.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Hit send before I could attach the last link, for the CAS-3 coordination request. http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=458 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > The CAMSAT filing you referenced is for the CAS-2 series not yet > scheduled for a launch, not the CAS-3 series on this launch. > > LilacSat-2 has other frequencies coordinated: > > http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=395 > > The CAS-3 series is pending coordination here: > > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) > wrote: >> David, >> >> I noticed the frequency selections for all of those satellites. It is nice >> that we may have 6 transponders that don't have overlapping frequencies, >> which could make for some interesting times ("Which of the 6 will you be >> on?" - for example). Seeing how some of those downlinks are at and below >> 145.800 MHz could cause many new issues with terrestrial and (for >> 145.800 MHz) other space operations. Also seeing APRS at 144.390 MHz >> (North American APRS frequency) and an FM uplink at 144.350 MHz on >> LilacSat-2 (CAS-3H) won't make some any happier. >> >> CAMSAT filed for IARU frequency coordination in 2012: >> >> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=264 >> >> but it doesn't appear to have gone anywhere past the filing step. I did not >> see frequencies listed on that web page, nor did I see the CAMSAT satellites >> anywhere else on that site. I can only guess the Chinese licensing >> authorities are making full use of the 144-146 MHz range that is permitted >> under the international (ITU) radio regulations for amateur satellite >> operation, regardless of the voluntary bandplans observed around the >> world. >> >> 73! >> >> >> >> >> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK >> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ >> Twitter: @WD9EWK >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Interesting. >>> >>> Only a few days ago there was a comment that a satellite launched 15 years ago was transmitting on 144.390 which was being used for weak signal meteor scatter in Europe. That was unintentional and in any case only sent a couple of very short beacons per minute. >>> >>> Now we see another satellite 'licensed' very recently using exactly the same frequency and a lot of other satellites transmitting on frequencies allocated to repeaters and other services. >>> >>> I presume the IARU were 'informed' of these frequencies rather than coordinating them. >>> >>> I wonder if the head of licensing in Bejing is the same chap who thought the Anti satellite missile test, that produced thousands of pieces of space debris, was a good idea. >>> >>> (rant over) >>> >>> David >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dwarnberg at verizon.net Wed Aug 5 16:38:30 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 12:38:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> Message-ID: <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> Actually I found it online.. here is the link... http://www.arrowantennas.com/parts/p146437-10.html David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:33 PM To: 'Diane Bruce' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? Ahh yes, my mistake... Anyway there is a spare parts list that came with the antenna (I have it) but it does not list size, it says 2 - 1/4 stud.. but that does not answer your question.. If you need this list or would like it I can scan it and post it or send it to you.. Sorry for the confusion David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: Diane Bruce [mailto:db at db.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:58 AM To: David Cc: 'David Haworth'; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: > If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so > they would be a 1/4-20 I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the elements themselves? I've not looked yet. > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David > Haworth > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM > To: Don Hoover (WS4E) > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > They look like 8-32 > > > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the > > dual band Arrow Antenna? > > > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > > > Thanks. > > Don > > WS4E > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not > > reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > 73, > Clear and dark skies without RFI, > David Haworth, WA9ONY > http://www.stargazing.net/david > davidahaworth at icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mattpatt at 1starnet.com Wed Aug 5 17:46:57 2015 From: mattpatt at 1starnet.com (Matt Patterson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:46:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <55C243A5.3070307@rushtone.com> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> <002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net> <20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net> <55C243A5.3070307@rushtone.com> Message-ID: <55C24C11.10904@1starnet.com> Not sure what they are built out of now but back in the day they were aluminum arrow shafts. I know because the one I have says Easton on every element. :) 73 Matt W5LL On 8/5/2015 12:11 PM, David Rush wrote: > I'm fairly certain that mine, purchased more than 10 years ago, is > using actual arrow shafts, not something based on arrow shafts. > > And I'm 95% certain that it's 8-32 threaded rod that connects them. It > looks like 8-32, and I pulled a random "this looks like an 8-32 nut" > out of my bin of random machine screws and nuts, and it fit just fine. > > 73, David, ky7dr > > On 2015-08-05 11:00, Diane Bruce wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 12:51:15PM -0400, David wrote: >>> So you guys got me thinking, after looking at these elements and >>> measuring >>> it realized something... these look like Aluminum Arrow shafts, and the >>> inserts might be the arrow broadhead insert.. which all parts are >>> readily >>> available at most sporting good stores for building you own arrows >>> (yes I am >>> a hunter and used to bow hunt) >> The commercialised Arrow design was based upon an article on using >> arrow shafts in an antenna. >> >> Not a surprise at all. ;) >> >>> I will double check this and let you all know, I'll have to do this >>> later >>> today after I'm off work.. but if this is the case replacements >>> should be >>> very easily created. >>> >>> David, KK4QOE >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: David [mailto:dwarnberg at verizon.net] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:39 PM >>> To: 'David'; 'Diane Bruce' >>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' >>> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>> >>> Actually I found it online.. here is the link... >>> http://www.arrowantennas.com/parts/p146437-10.html >>> >>> David, KK4QOE >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:33 PM >>> To: 'Diane Bruce' >>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' >>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>> >>> Ahh yes, my mistake... Anyway there is a spare parts list that came >>> with the >>> antenna (I have it) but it does not list size, it says 2 - 1/4 >>> stud.. but >>> that does not answer your question.. >>> >>> If you need this list or would like it I can scan it and post it or >>> send it >>> to you.. >>> >>> Sorry for the confusion >>> >>> David, KK4QOE >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Diane Bruce [mailto:db at db.net] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:58 AM >>> To: David >>> Cc: 'David Haworth'; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org >>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: >>>> If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so >>>> they would be a 1/4-20 >>> I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the >>> elements themselves? I've not looked yet. >>> >>>> David, KK4QOE >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David >>>> Haworth >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM >>>> To: Don Hoover (WS4E) >>>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>>> >>>> They look like 8-32 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the >>>>> dual band Arrow Antenna? >>>>> >>>>> I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for >>>>> replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Don >>>>> WS4E >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>> membership. >>>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not >>>>> reflect the >>>> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> 73, >>>> Clear and dark skies without RFI, >>>> David Haworth, WA9ONY >>>> http://www.stargazing.net/david >>>> davidahaworth at icloud.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>>> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>>> the >>> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>> -- >>> - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>> available to all >>> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >>> official >>> views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 18:29:51 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:29:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <55C24C11.10904@1starnet.com> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> <002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net> <20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net> <55C243A5.3070307@rushtone.com> <55C24C11.10904@1starnet.com> Message-ID: Also, the company is Arrow and it's called an Arrow antenna! On Aug 5, 2015 1:57 PM, "Matt Patterson" wrote: > Not sure what they are built out of now but back in the day they were > aluminum arrow shafts. I know because the one I have says Easton on every > element. :) > > 73 Matt > W5LL > > On 8/5/2015 12:11 PM, David Rush wrote: > >> I'm fairly certain that mine, purchased more than 10 years ago, is using >> actual arrow shafts, not something based on arrow shafts. >> >> And I'm 95% certain that it's 8-32 threaded rod that connects them. It >> looks like 8-32, and I pulled a random "this looks like an 8-32 nut" out of >> my bin of random machine screws and nuts, and it fit just fine. >> >> 73, David, ky7dr >> >> On 2015-08-05 11:00, Diane Bruce wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 12:51:15PM -0400, David wrote: >>> >>>> So you guys got me thinking, after looking at these elements and >>>> measuring >>>> it realized something... these look like Aluminum Arrow shafts, and the >>>> inserts might be the arrow broadhead insert.. which all parts are >>>> readily >>>> available at most sporting good stores for building you own arrows (yes >>>> I am >>>> a hunter and used to bow hunt) >>>> >>> The commercialised Arrow design was based upon an article on using >>> arrow shafts in an antenna. >>> >>> Not a surprise at all. ;) >>> >>> I will double check this and let you all know, I'll have to do this later >>>> today after I'm off work.. but if this is the case replacements should >>>> be >>>> very easily created. >>>> >>>> David, KK4QOE >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: David [mailto:dwarnberg at verizon.net] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:39 PM >>>> To: 'David'; 'Diane Bruce' >>>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' >>>> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>>> >>>> Actually I found it online.. here is the link... >>>> http://www.arrowantennas.com/parts/p146437-10.html >>>> >>>> David, KK4QOE >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:33 PM >>>> To: 'Diane Bruce' >>>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' >>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>>> >>>> Ahh yes, my mistake... Anyway there is a spare parts list that came >>>> with the >>>> antenna (I have it) but it does not list size, it says 2 - 1/4 stud.. >>>> but >>>> that does not answer your question.. >>>> >>>> If you need this list or would like it I can scan it and post it or >>>> send it >>>> to you.. >>>> >>>> Sorry for the confusion >>>> >>>> David, KK4QOE >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Diane Bruce [mailto:db at db.net] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:58 AM >>>> To: David >>>> Cc: 'David Haworth'; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org >>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so >>>>> they would be a 1/4-20 >>>>> >>>> I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the >>>> elements themselves? I've not looked yet. >>>> >>>> David, KK4QOE >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David >>>>> Haworth >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM >>>>> To: Don Hoover (WS4E) >>>>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? >>>>> >>>>> They look like 8-32 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the >>>>>> dual band Arrow Antenna? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for >>>>>> replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Don >>>>>> WS4E >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>> >>>>> membership. >>>> >>>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not >>>>>> reflect the >>>>>> >>>>> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>> >>>>> program! >>>> >>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Clear and dark skies without RFI, >>>>> David Haworth, WA9ONY >>>>> http://www.stargazing.net/david >>>>> davidahaworth at icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>>>> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>>>> the >>>>> >>>> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all >>>> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >>>> official >>>> views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Wed Aug 5 18:36:10 2015 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:36:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas Message-ID: <68c47b321110445600e7e2a672aabd9d.squirrel@alum.wpi.edu> Tom, You are correct in that the antenna with the smaller effective aparature will collect less energy in a given time period. But things are never equal - preamp performance, feedline loss etc. For satellite antennas, maximizing Gain/Noise Temperature is essential figure of merit. It does little good to collect lots of energy if that energy is thermal radiation frin the roof under your antenna! -Joe KM1P From ka9qjg at wowway.com Wed Aug 5 18:41:24 2015 From: ka9qjg at wowway.com (KA9QJG) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:41:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <55C24C11.10904@1starnet.com> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> <002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net> <20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net> <55C243A5.3070307@rushtone.com> <55C24C11.10904@1starnet.com> Message-ID: <045b01d0cfae$54dec890$fe9c59b0$@wowway.com> I have talked to the owner of Arrow a few times asking about His antennas He was always very Helpful Gave Me a Vet Discount, I am sure with all the Free Advertisement We are giving Him here He will probably just give you the screws /parts Info for Free give Him a call http://www.arrowantennas.com/main/mail.html 73 De Don KA9QJG PS Old Hams Designs and Makes our own parts LOL From w5pfg at amsat.org Wed Aug 5 18:41:27 2015 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:41:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net><20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net><002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net><002e01d0cf9d$29 c64860$7d52d920$@net><002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net><20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net><55C243A5.3070307@rushtone.com> <55C24C11.10904@1starnet.com> Message-ID: <55C258D7.7010908@amsat.org> If Arrows are made from Arrows, what are Elks made from? On 8/5/2015 13:29, John Brier wrote: > Also, the company is Arrow and it's called an Arrow antenna! > On Aug 5, 2015 1:57 PM, "Matt Patterson" wrote: > >> Not sure what they are built out of now but back in the day they were >> aluminum arrow shafts. I know because the one I have says Easton on every >> element. :) >> >> 73 Matt >> W5LL From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 5 18:46:11 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:46:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <55C258D7.7010908@amsat.org> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> <002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net> <20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net> <55C243A5.3070307@rushtone.com> <55C24C11.10904@1starnet.com> <55C258D7.7010908@amsat.org> Message-ID: Arrows that have been used to hunt Elks and recovered? 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > If Arrows are made from Arrows, what are Elks made from? > > On 8/5/2015 13:29, John Brier wrote: >> >> Also, the company is Arrow and it's called an Arrow antenna! >> On Aug 5, 2015 1:57 PM, "Matt Patterson" wrote: >> >>> Not sure what they are built out of now but back in the day they were >>> aluminum arrow shafts. I know because the one I have says Easton on >>> every >>> element. :) >>> >>> 73 Matt >>> W5LL > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ka9qjg at wowway.com Wed Aug 5 18:51:20 2015 From: ka9qjg at wowway.com (KA9QJG) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:51:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <55C258D7.7010908@amsat.org> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net><20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net><002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net><002e01d0cf9d$29 c64860$7d52d920$@net><002f01d0cf9e$f1882c00$d4988400$@net><20150805170055.GA85847@night.db.net><55C243A5.3070307@rushtone.com> <55C24C11.10904@1starnet.com> <55C258D7.7010908@amsat.org> Message-ID: <045c01d0cfaf$b7ec5690$27c503b0$@wowway.com> Horns and I have heard that they have other values but at 69 it may be to late to try them LOL 73 De Don KA9QJG -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clayton W5PFG Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:41 PM To: 'amsat bb' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? If Arrows are made from Arrows, what are Elks made from? On 8/5/2015 13:29, John Brier wrote: > Also, the company is Arrow and it's called an Arrow antenna! > On Aug 5, 2015 1:57 PM, "Matt Patterson" wrote: > >> Not sure what they are built out of now but back in the day they were >> aluminum arrow shafts. I know because the one I have says Easton on >> every element. :) >> >> 73 Matt >> W5LL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k8bl at ameritech.net Wed Aug 5 19:06:40 2015 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <045b01d0cfae$54dec890$fe9c59b0$@wowway.com> References: <045b01d0cfae$54dec890$fe9c59b0$@wowway.com> Message-ID: <1035089327.602034.1438801600896.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I ran into the owner at the Dayton HamVention 2 years agowhile he was closing up his Booth. When I asked him aboutreplacement screws for my Arrow elements that I had bent,he just tossed me a pack of about 6, no charge. Nice guy!! 73/GL, ? ? Bob K8BL From: KA9QJG To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? I have talked to the owner of Arrow a few times asking about His antennas He was? always very Helpful Gave Me a Vet Discount,? ? I am sure with all the Free Advertisement? We are giving Him here He will probably just give you the screws? /parts? Info for Free give Him a call http://www.arrowantennas.com/main/mail.html 73 De Don KA9QJG PS? Old Hams Designs and Makes our own parts LOL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 5 19:08:45 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:08:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <1035089327.602034.1438801600896.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <045b01d0cfae$54dec890$fe9c59b0$@wowway.com> <1035089327.602034.1438801600896.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yep. And they are $1 direct from Arrow. http://www.arrowantennas.com/parts/p146437-10.html 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > I ran into the owner at the Dayton HamVention 2 years agowhile he was closing up his Booth. When I asked him aboutreplacement screws for my Arrow elements that I had bent,he just tossed me a pack of about 6, no charge. Nice guy!! > 73/GL, Bob K8BL > From: KA9QJG > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > > > > I have talked to the owner of Arrow a few times asking about His antennas He > was always very Helpful Gave Me a Vet Discount, I am sure with all the > Free Advertisement We are giving Him here He will probably just give you > the screws /parts Info for Free give Him a call > > http://www.arrowantennas.com/main/mail.html > > > > 73 De Don KA9QJG > > PS Old Hams Designs and Makes our own parts LOL > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From howied231 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 5 19:38:52 2015 From: howied231 at hotmail.com (Howie DeFelice) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:38:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From the w8ji.com: Capture area, or more correctly effective aperture (Ae), is a direct function of antenna gain and operating wavelength. Ae is determined by the voltage available across a load matching the antenna feed impedance for a given electromagnetic field strength density. In simple terms if the antenna is placed in a electromagnetic field of a certain intensity, a certain amount of power will appear in the load at the antenna terminals. The area of space around the antenna that provided this amount of power is the effective aperture. Many people confuse physical area, or Ap, with effective aperture. They are not the same. Physical size only determines effective aperture as physical size might affect gain of an antenna. Gain and wavelength determines capture area, but capture area itself has nothing to do with actual physical size or physical area of the antenna. For example a 1/2 wave long dipole in freespace has a capture area of about .13??. This means a lossless freespace dipole has an Ae of approximately .13 square wavelengths. This effective aperture is about 100 times larger than the actual physical area of a thin wire dipole antenna. Energy is extracted from an elliptically shaped area slightly longer than the dipole and about 1/4 wave diameter at the center. This is why increasing conductor diameter or using a cage of wires will not increase electrical aperture or capture area. As a matter of fact if we built a lossless or very low loss small dipole, perhaps ?/20 (1/20th of a wavelength) long, capture area or Ae would be within a few percent of a full size dipole! A change in antenna element diameter does not affect gain, except as it might very slightly reduce power losses in conductor resistance. Length itself has very little effect unless the change in length significantly affects antenna gain. We must have a change in gain to change Ae (effective electrical aperture). Physical aperture (Ap) changes do not affect Ae unless the gain changes. > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:49:59 -0500 > From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas > > Reading the posts on the 23 cm antennas brought back some nightmares and a > lingering question I have about antennas. As an undergrad in Electrical > Engineering we had to take a course in Maxwell's equations. I really > suffered through that course. I remember one thing that I have wondered > about since then. Almost everything was based on comparisons to an > isotropic radiator (dBi). Since I was a ham I had little interest in things > that could not be built. When measuring the real gain of a real antenna it > has to be compared to something like a dipole. Sometimes a gain is > converted to dBi by adjusting for the fact that the reference was a dipole. > > Consider measuring the gain of an antenna for 70cm with the reference a > dipole for 70cm. Suppose the gain is 10 dB. > Now consider making exactly the same measurements on a 23cm antenna with > the reference a dipole for 23 cm and finding the same 10 dB gain. > > At first glance it would seem that the two antennas would be equally > effective. Another view is energy. If you are trying to receive a signal > there is only a certain amount of energy that is distributed through space. > The goal of the antenna is to pick up as much of this energy as > possible and deliver it to the radio. There is a term 'effective aperture' > Ae or more commonly 'capture area'. The antenna picks up the energy in > its Ae. Ae is not just the physical size of the antenna but bigger antennas > tend to have a bigger Ae. Ae also depends on gain - the higher the gain the > bigger the Ae (big surprise). > > Here is my question. All other things being equal (ignore things like path > loss) I believe that the 70 cm antenna with 10dB gain will deliver more > energy to the radio than the 23 cm antenna with 10 dB gain. Bigger is > better ? > > If this is wrong please do not fill a chalk board with Maxwell equations to > convince me. If it is correct, is the difference simply related in a linear > fashion to the difference in wavelength or is there more to it ? > > 73 W9KE Tom Doyle > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ec4tr.luis at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 20:20:52 2015 From: ec4tr.luis at gmail.com (EC4TR Luis) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 22:20:52 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Where can I purchase an arrow antenna in Europe? In-Reply-To: References: <045b01d0cfae$54dec890$fe9c59b0$@wowway.com> <1035089327.602034.1438801600896.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <55C27024.1010501@gmail.com> Hi guys I've always liked the arrow antenna for field trips, I wonder if it is sold in Europe. 73 Luis EC4TR From ewpereira at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 20:21:39 2015 From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:21:39 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT Frequency chaos In-Reply-To: References: <14efece44bd-15b4-37133@webprd-m49.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Amateur satellites operating outside the allocated sub-bands is a very unfortunate and bad precedent. Radio Amateurs from different countries and different IARU regions spend years negotiating bandplans so that we can all operate in harmony without causing interference to other amateurs. The 2m band is indeed crowded, but we do have practically desert bands above 70cm that so badly need activity. Not only the bands are available, but we *need* to use them. Otherwise we will lose them. 73, Edson PY2SDR --- - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together. - N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se trabalharmos juntos. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Hit send before I could attach the last link, for the CAS-3 > coordination request. > > http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=458 > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > The CAMSAT filing you referenced is for the CAS-2 series not yet > > scheduled for a launch, not the CAS-3 series on this launch. > > > > LilacSat-2 has other frequencies coordinated: > > > > http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=395 > > > > The CAS-3 series is pending coordination here: > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) > > wrote: > >> David, > >> > >> I noticed the frequency selections for all of those satellites. It is > nice > >> that we may have 6 transponders that don't have overlapping frequencies, > >> which could make for some interesting times ("Which of the 6 will you be > >> on?" - for example). Seeing how some of those downlinks are at and below > >> 145.800 MHz could cause many new issues with terrestrial and (for > >> 145.800 MHz) other space operations. Also seeing APRS at 144.390 MHz > >> (North American APRS frequency) and an FM uplink at 144.350 MHz on > >> LilacSat-2 (CAS-3H) won't make some any happier. > >> > >> CAMSAT filed for IARU frequency coordination in 2012: > >> > >> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=264 > >> > >> but it doesn't appear to have gone anywhere past the filing step. I did > not > >> see frequencies listed on that web page, nor did I see the CAMSAT > satellites > >> anywhere else on that site. I can only guess the Chinese licensing > >> authorities are making full use of the 144-146 MHz range that is > permitted > >> under the international (ITU) radio regulations for amateur satellite > >> operation, regardless of the voluntary bandplans observed around the > >> world. > >> > >> 73! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > >> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > >> Twitter: @WD9EWK > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Interesting. > >>> > >>> Only a few days ago there was a comment that a satellite launched 15 > years ago was transmitting on 144.390 which was being used for weak signal > meteor scatter in Europe. That was unintentional and in any case only sent > a couple of very short beacons per minute. > >>> > >>> Now we see another satellite 'licensed' very recently using exactly > the same frequency and a lot of other satellites transmitting on > frequencies allocated to repeaters and other services. > >>> > >>> I presume the IARU were 'informed' of these frequencies rather than > coordinating them. > >>> > >>> I wonder if the head of licensing in Bejing is the same chap who > thought the Anti satellite missile test, that produced thousands of pieces > of space debris, was a good idea. > >>> > >>> (rant over) > >>> > >>> David > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From g.shirville at btinternet.com Wed Aug 5 20:48:48 2015 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:48:48 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT Frequency chaos In-Reply-To: References: <14efece44bd-15b4-37133@webprd-m49.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Dear Edson, I agree with everything you say...it is obvious that we must work much harder on these two issues in the future! 73 Graham G3VZV -----Original Message----- From: Edson W. R. Pereira Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 9:21 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT Frequency chaos Amateur satellites operating outside the allocated sub-bands is a very unfortunate and bad precedent. Radio Amateurs from different countries and different IARU regions spend years negotiating bandplans so that we can all operate in harmony without causing interference to other amateurs. The 2m band is indeed crowded, but we do have practically desert bands above 70cm that so badly need activity. Not only the bands are available, but we *need* to use them. Otherwise we will lose them. 73, Edson PY2SDR --- - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together. - N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se trabalharmos juntos. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Hit send before I could attach the last link, for the CAS-3 > coordination request. > > http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=458 > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > The CAMSAT filing you referenced is for the CAS-2 series not yet > > scheduled for a launch, not the CAS-3 series on this launch. > > > > LilacSat-2 has other frequencies coordinated: > > > > http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=395 > > > > The CAS-3 series is pending coordination here: > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) > > wrote: > >> David, > >> > >> I noticed the frequency selections for all of those satellites. It is > nice > >> that we may have 6 transponders that don't have overlapping > >> frequencies, > >> which could make for some interesting times ("Which of the 6 will you > >> be > >> on?" - for example). Seeing how some of those downlinks are at and > >> below > >> 145.800 MHz could cause many new issues with terrestrial and (for > >> 145.800 MHz) other space operations. Also seeing APRS at 144.390 MHz > >> (North American APRS frequency) and an FM uplink at 144.350 MHz on > >> LilacSat-2 (CAS-3H) won't make some any happier. > >> > >> CAMSAT filed for IARU frequency coordination in 2012: > >> > >> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=264 > >> > >> but it doesn't appear to have gone anywhere past the filing step. I did > not > >> see frequencies listed on that web page, nor did I see the CAMSAT > satellites > >> anywhere else on that site. I can only guess the Chinese licensing > >> authorities are making full use of the 144-146 MHz range that is > permitted > >> under the international (ITU) radio regulations for amateur satellite > >> operation, regardless of the voluntary bandplans observed around the > >> world. > >> > >> 73! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > >> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > >> Twitter: @WD9EWK > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Interesting. > >>> > >>> Only a few days ago there was a comment that a satellite launched 15 > years ago was transmitting on 144.390 which was being used for weak signal > meteor scatter in Europe. That was unintentional and in any case only sent > a couple of very short beacons per minute. > >>> > >>> Now we see another satellite 'licensed' very recently using exactly > the same frequency and a lot of other satellites transmitting on > frequencies allocated to repeaters and other services. > >>> > >>> I presume the IARU were 'informed' of these frequencies rather than > coordinating them. > >>> > >>> I wonder if the head of licensing in Bejing is the same chap who > thought the Anti satellite missile test, that produced thousands of pieces > of space debris, was a good idea. > >>> > >>> (rant over) > >>> > >>> David > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k7trkradio at charter.net Wed Aug 5 21:50:55 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:50:55 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> References: <8A4AA077-EE41-4909-BC9D-2248431A50B1@icloud.com> <002001d0cf93$78a89280$69f9b780$@net> <20150805155755.GA85329@night.db.net> <002d01d0cf9c$67731ef0$36595cd0$@net> <002e01d0cf9d$29c64860$7d52d920$@net> Message-ID: <001501d0cfc8$ce9207f0$6bb617d0$@charter.net> That is the LENGTH The thread of the piece is either 6-32 or 8-32. If you can't find the same pieces you can buy the parts at Home Depot and cut off the head 73, K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 9:39 AM To: 'David'; 'Diane Bruce' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? Actually I found it online.. here is the link... http://www.arrowantennas.com/parts/p146437-10.html David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:33 PM To: 'Diane Bruce' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? Ahh yes, my mistake... Anyway there is a spare parts list that came with the antenna (I have it) but it does not list size, it says 2 - 1/4 stud.. but that does not answer your question.. If you need this list or would like it I can scan it and post it or send it to you.. Sorry for the confusion David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: Diane Bruce [mailto:db at db.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:58 AM To: David Cc: 'David Haworth'; 'Don Hoover (WS4E)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 11:29:08AM -0400, David wrote: > If I recall correctly they are the same size as a camera tripod.. so > they would be a 1/4-20 I was going to answer this then realised he is really talking about the elements themselves? I've not looked yet. > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David > Haworth > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:03 AM > To: Don Hoover (WS4E) > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? > > They look like 8-32 > > > > On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > > > > Does anyone know the screw size/threads used for the elements on the > > dual band Arrow Antenna? > > > > I have some that are a little bent and want to start looking for > > replacements and maybe buy some spares as well. > > > > Thanks. > > Don > > WS4E > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From my.callsign at verizon.net Wed Aug 5 23:32:38 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:32:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Screw threads on Arrow? In-Reply-To: <001501d0cfc8$ce9207f0$6bb617d0$@charter.net> References: <001501d0cfc8$ce9207f0$6bb617d0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <55C29D16.6040807@verizon.net> Beware the Pox, the Plague, the Ides, and man who can measure, screw pitch and size... My arrow antenna has SAE 8-32 screw studs to attach the elements. KO6TZ Bob From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 5 23:47:13 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 23:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?SPROUT_Deployable_Membrane_=E2=80=93_Request?= =?utf-8?q?_for_Telemetry?= Message-ID: <1865884328.730671.1438818433908.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Students at Nihon University in Japan are requesting the assistance of radio amateurs in collecting telemetry from the satellite which has deployed an inflatable membrane structure. Further information at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/05/sprout-telemetry-request/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From k7trkradio at charter.net Wed Aug 5 23:58:36 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:58:36 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?SPROUT_Deployable_Membrane_=E2=80=93_Request?= =?utf-8?q?_for_Telemetry?= In-Reply-To: <1865884328.730671.1438818433908.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1865884328.730671.1438818433908.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01d0cfda$a4f3ddd0$eedb9970$@charter.net> Hi Trevor, In HRD (using only nasabare.txt) , I'm showing this as object 39770? Is that accurate Tnx, 73, Ted, K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of M5AKA Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 4:47 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] SPROUT Deployable Membrane ? Request for Telemetry Students at Nihon University in Japan are requesting the assistance of radio amateurs in collecting telemetry from the satellite which has deployed an inflatable membrane structure. Further information at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/05/sprout-telemetry-request/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 00:46:40 2015 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg Dolkas) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 17:46:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm In-Reply-To: <000f01d0cf7d$88bd66c0$9a383440$@net> References: <5447a2de-0293-4e4a-a794-96092b3558f4@email.android.com> <6bdfebce-bca8-4920-ab76-3eefa7f33a44@email.android.com> <000f01d0cf7d$88bd66c0$9a383440$@net> Message-ID: I also have 10w on 23cm from my Yaesu FT-736R, and a reasonable beam on the rotor. At least, it worked quite well through the recent LEOs. How much EIRP are we expected to need for tthis one? Greg KO6TH On August 5, 2015 5:52:06 AM PDT, David wrote: >Zach, all... thanks very much for all the replies, it does give me some >things to ponder... I do realize the add on 23cm module for the >IC-9100 has only 10 watts output.. so it seems to limit my options or >add more cost to the final setup... > >Again thanks everyone for the replies, as par for the course you guys >are very helpful > >Thanks All > >David, KK4QOE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Zach Leffke [mailto:zleffke at vt.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:20 AM >To: David >Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm > >Sorry, typo... G/T doesn't make sense since uplink only band....please >substitute 'affect G/T' with 'affect overall link budgets' in my >previous email. > >Apologies, its late and I need sleep. > >-Zach, KJ4QLP > >On Aug 5, 2015 1:12 AM, Zach Leffke wrote: >> >> Directive Systems and engineering has loop yagis specifically for the >amateur satellite service in this band. It is what we will be using in >the Virginia Tech ground station. No feedback yet on performance >(we're not up yet) but they look very well made and the folks at the >company are fantastic and they have a great reputation with their >antennas at microwave and up. They are fairly compact and lightweight >as well and could likely be added to a G5500 style setup with ease and >minimal additional strain on the motors. >> >> I'm not aware of any omnis for this band off the top of my head, but >being that it is an uplink only allocation, lack of gain and increased >path loss could be made up for with power (bearing in mind the recent >threads on proper uplink power levels). Consider though that there is >about 18.8dB and 9.7dB of additional path loss over VHF and UHF >respectively. Assuming similar rx gains and noise performance on the >bird at 23cm, as well as atmo/iono losses, that additional loss will >have to be overcome on the ground, either with increased antenna gains, >or with increased power. Given that the 9100 makes about 10W on 23cm, >it may be time for a decision. a) 23cm module plus fairly beefy amp >plus homebrew omni, or b) 23cm module plus rotator system plus well >built (and factory tuned) yagi. >> >> Personally, I'd recommend option b with rotator plus beam plus lower >power, mainly because antenna gain is easy/cheap at 23cm and PAs can be >expensive/tricky at 23cm, but I have access to existing rotator >systems which bias my opinions. >> >> My two cents.... >> >> Also it might be interesting to see some more rigorous analysis and >antenna designs for 23cm (omnis and beams). Maybe comparisons of >various omnis and various beams and how they affect G/T (imagine a cute >little lindenblad or turnstyle or eggbeater for 23cm and how physically >small it would be compared to what we are used to at VHF/UHF, it would >be roughly a third of the size of its UHF equivalent!). Once we can get >some details from the Fox engineering crew or Ops crew on the expected >performance of the uplink receiver on 23cm, could make for a good >article or two for the Journal (especially the bit on 'microwave omnis' >and their feasibility, I'm sure the eng/ops crew has or will have a >solid handle on the overall receiver performance and link budgets). >> >> -Zach, KJ4QLP >> >> On Aug 4, 2015 11:32 AM, David wrote: >> > >> > I see lots of talk about some new sats going up that will be >utilizing 23cm. >> > so I have some questions.. first let me explain what I have setup >> > currently. >> > >> > 1) Icom IC-9100 (23cm module not added yet) >> > >> > 2) M2 eggbeaters (70cm and 2m) with preamps >> > >> > >> > >> > So I am contemplating adding the 23cm add on for the 9100 but >> > perplexed about an antenna. suggestions? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > >> > >> > David, KK4QOE >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >> > membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >> > Subscription settings: >> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 6 00:54:33 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:54:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm In-Reply-To: References: <5447a2de-0293-4e4a-a794-96092b3558f4@email.android.com> <6bdfebce-bca8-4920-ab76-3eefa7f33a44@email.android.com> <000f01d0cf7d$88bd66c0$9a383440$@net> Message-ID: FUNcube on ESEO says 100w EIRP for their L/V FM transponder. I don't recall seeing any estimates for Fox-1C or Fox-1D. http://amsat-uk.org/2013/02/02/amsat-uk-to-provide-amateur-radio-payload-for-eseo-satellite/ I did link budget calculations a while ago (can't find them though...) and came to the same conclusion, assuming the sensitivity of the L band downconverter on Fox-1C and 1D is similar to the specification for the 435 MHz receiver (-120 dBm for a 12 dB SINAD), about 100w EIRP will be needed at maximum range given the high path losses on 23cm. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Greg Dolkas wrote: > I also have 10w on 23cm from my Yaesu FT-736R, and a reasonable beam on the rotor. At least, it worked quite well through the recent LEOs. > > How much EIRP are we expected to need for tthis one? > > Greg KO6TH > > > On August 5, 2015 5:52:06 AM PDT, David wrote: >>Zach, all... thanks very much for all the replies, it does give me some >>things to ponder... I do realize the add on 23cm module for the >>IC-9100 has only 10 watts output.. so it seems to limit my options or >>add more cost to the final setup... >> >>Again thanks everyone for the replies, as par for the course you guys >>are very helpful >> >>Thanks All >> >>David, KK4QOE >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Zach Leffke [mailto:zleffke at vt.edu] >>Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:20 AM >>To: David >>Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] new sats and 23cm >> >>Sorry, typo... G/T doesn't make sense since uplink only band....please >>substitute 'affect G/T' with 'affect overall link budgets' in my >>previous email. >> >>Apologies, its late and I need sleep. >> >>-Zach, KJ4QLP >> >>On Aug 5, 2015 1:12 AM, Zach Leffke wrote: >>> >>> Directive Systems and engineering has loop yagis specifically for the >>amateur satellite service in this band. It is what we will be using in >>the Virginia Tech ground station. No feedback yet on performance >>(we're not up yet) but they look very well made and the folks at the >>company are fantastic and they have a great reputation with their >>antennas at microwave and up. They are fairly compact and lightweight >>as well and could likely be added to a G5500 style setup with ease and >>minimal additional strain on the motors. >>> >>> I'm not aware of any omnis for this band off the top of my head, but >>being that it is an uplink only allocation, lack of gain and increased >>path loss could be made up for with power (bearing in mind the recent >>threads on proper uplink power levels). Consider though that there is >>about 18.8dB and 9.7dB of additional path loss over VHF and UHF >>respectively. Assuming similar rx gains and noise performance on the >>bird at 23cm, as well as atmo/iono losses, that additional loss will >>have to be overcome on the ground, either with increased antenna gains, >>or with increased power. Given that the 9100 makes about 10W on 23cm, >>it may be time for a decision. a) 23cm module plus fairly beefy amp >>plus homebrew omni, or b) 23cm module plus rotator system plus well >>built (and factory tuned) yagi. >>> >>> Personally, I'd recommend option b with rotator plus beam plus lower >>power, mainly because antenna gain is easy/cheap at 23cm and PAs can be >>expensive/tricky at 23cm, but I have access to existing rotator >>systems which bias my opinions. >>> >>> My two cents.... >>> >>> Also it might be interesting to see some more rigorous analysis and >>antenna designs for 23cm (omnis and beams). Maybe comparisons of >>various omnis and various beams and how they affect G/T (imagine a cute >>little lindenblad or turnstyle or eggbeater for 23cm and how physically >>small it would be compared to what we are used to at VHF/UHF, it would >>be roughly a third of the size of its UHF equivalent!). Once we can get >>some details from the Fox engineering crew or Ops crew on the expected >>performance of the uplink receiver on 23cm, could make for a good >>article or two for the Journal (especially the bit on 'microwave omnis' >>and their feasibility, I'm sure the eng/ops crew has or will have a >>solid handle on the overall receiver performance and link budgets). >>> >>> -Zach, KJ4QLP >>> >>> On Aug 4, 2015 11:32 AM, David wrote: >>> > >>> > I see lots of talk about some new sats going up that will be >>utilizing 23cm. >>> > so I have some questions.. first let me explain what I have setup >>> > currently. >>> > >>> > 1) Icom IC-9100 (23cm module not added yet) >>> > >>> > 2) M2 eggbeaters (70cm and 2m) with preamps >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > So I am contemplating adding the 23cm add on for the 9100 but >>> > perplexed about an antenna. suggestions? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > David, KK4QOE >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>> > membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >>do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>> > Subscription settings: >>> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >>the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Thu Aug 6 10:28:24 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 06:28:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?SPROUT_Deployable_Membrane_=E2=80=93_Request?= =?utf-8?q?_for_Telemetry?= In-Reply-To: <002a01d0cfda$a4f3ddd0$eedb9970$@charter.net> References: <1865884328.730671.1438818433908.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <002a01d0cfda$a4f3ddd0$eedb9970$@charter.net> Message-ID: <55C336C8.7080305@denstarfarm.us> On 05-Aug-15 1958, Ted wrote: > ... I'm showing this as object 39770? Is that accurate that is what I have using SatPC32. fwiw though, I have not found it for many days. I do not hear the CW on 437.525 I do not hear the telemetry on 437.600 maybe my Keplarian's are wrong, but they are updated daily. I successfully decode many others every day. according to their schedule page, SPROUT is operational on both frequencies. http://sat.aero.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp/wordpress/?page_id=1212 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 6 12:36:19 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?UK_radio_ham=E2=80=99s_ISS_contact_in_the_pr?= =?utf-8?q?ess?= Message-ID: <1297567391.146280.1438864579723.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Adrian Lane 2E0SDR got some great newspaper publicity for the hobby when he made an amateur radio contact with the International Space Station. The story was published in the?Thursday, August 6, 2015 edition of many UK national daily newspapers including The Sun, The Times, Telegraph, Daily Mail, Mirror and also featured on the national BBC Radio 4 show "Today", see http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/05/uk-radio-hams-iss-contact-in-the-press/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From clintbrad4d at earthlink.net Thu Aug 6 16:26:49 2015 From: clintbrad4d at earthlink.net (Clint Bradford) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:26:49 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Arrow Antennas for Europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <390E7F4F-F30A-4F3F-B0C8-713C82071CAB@earthlink.net> Arrow's online store is now set up for international orders ... http://www.arrowantennas.com I just spoke with Martin Lynch - they do not carry them. Clint K6LCS From ki0g at yahoo.com Fri Aug 7 00:12:36 2015 From: ki0g at yahoo.com (Bob Cutter) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:12:36 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Message-ID: <6AEBE19F-8F2E-46F4-9585-2CA5488D3E12@yahoo.com> The 435.35 downlink seems weak to me, anyone else? Bob KI?G From nss at mwt.net Fri Aug 7 00:50:51 2015 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:50:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 In-Reply-To: <6AEBE19F-8F2E-46F4-9585-2CA5488D3E12@yahoo.com> References: <6AEBE19F-8F2E-46F4-9585-2CA5488D3E12@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <55C400EB.2000605@mwt.net> I thought this Bird was temporarily shut down. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/6/2015 7:12 PM, Bob Cutter via AMSAT-BB wrote: > The 435.35 downlink seems weak to me, anyone else? > > Bob KI?G > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ki0g at yahoo.com Fri Aug 7 01:10:56 2015 From: ki0g at yahoo.com (Bob Cutter) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:10:56 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 In-Reply-To: <55C400EB.2000605@mwt.net> References: <6AEBE19F-8F2E-46F4-9585-2CA5488D3E12@yahoo.com> <55C400EB.2000605@mwt.net> Message-ID: <103088C8-A63A-441B-9179-6E780E5702B4@yahoo.com> I did not decode anything, wonder what I heard? Thanks. Bob > On Aug 6, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Joe wrote: > > I thought this Bird was temporarily shut down. > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com >> On 8/6/2015 7:12 PM, Bob Cutter via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> The 435.35 downlink seems weak to me, anyone else? >> >> Bob KI?G >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Aug 7 01:26:50 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:26:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 In-Reply-To: <55C400EB.2000605@mwt.net> References: <6AEBE19F-8F2E-46F4-9585-2CA5488D3E12@yahoo.com> <55C400EB.2000605@mwt.net> Message-ID: <4b9dda359e156cd934f94285f9c91173@mail.gmail.com> We let PSAT go into its first eclipse season with everything on. Not a good idea. Now it is trying to dig out of its power hole. The digipeater is turned off to conserve power, but we need users on the PSK31 uplink to not transmit so that the UHF transmitter does not come up. It is the PSK31 that is running it down on every orbit. Bob, Wb4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:51 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 I thought this Bird was temporarily shut down. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/6/2015 7:12 PM, Bob Cutter via AMSAT-BB wrote: > The 435.35 downlink seems weak to me, anyone else? > > Bob KI?G > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 7 02:45:06 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 22:45:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 In-Reply-To: <4b9dda359e156cd934f94285f9c91173@mail.gmail.com> References: <6AEBE19F-8F2E-46F4-9585-2CA5488D3E12@yahoo.com> <55C400EB.2000605@mwt.net> <4b9dda359e156cd934f94285f9c91173@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Except it's uplink is the terrestrial frequency. We can't tell terrestrial users to not transmit in order to protect the satellite. This problem (and the problem reported earlier this week) is the reason satellite designers should always be using the international OSCAR subbands for satellite uplinks and downlinks. On 10 meters, that's 29.300-29.510 MHz. No satellite should have an uplink at 28.120 MHz. Also, why can't the transponder's transmitter be commanded off to prevent it from depleting the battery? 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > We let PSAT go into its first eclipse season with everything on. Not a good > idea. Now it is trying to dig out of its power hole. The digipeater is > turned off to conserve power, but we need users on the PSK31 uplink to not > transmit so that the UHF transmitter does not come up. > > It is the PSK31 that is running it down on every orbit. > > Bob, Wb4aPR > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:51 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 > > I thought this Bird was temporarily shut down. > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/6/2015 7:12 PM, Bob Cutter via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> The 435.35 downlink seems weak to me, anyone else? >> >> Bob KI?G >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca Fri Aug 7 03:07:49 2015 From: lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca (Luc Leblanc) Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:07:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PC sat NO-44 Message-ID: <55C42105.31827.13D8A4A@lucleblanc6.videotron.ca> Just make's me remember a very old email thread... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/us_navy_satellite_pcsat_no_44_goes_rogue Luc Leblanc VE2DWE From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Aug 7 04:07:05 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 00:07:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PC sat NO-44 In-Reply-To: <55C42105.31827.13D8A4A@lucleblanc6.videotron.ca> References: <55C42105.31827.13D8A4A@lucleblanc6.videotron.ca> Message-ID: <0b4b59207785a0ac0c352ae2d8ca352b@mail.gmail.com> That is why we ask all users in Europe to follow the PCSAT (NO44) user service guide and never try to digipeat via W3ADO-1 which is the RESET callsign and not authorized for digipeating. See http://aprs.org/pcsat.html Thanks, Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Luc Leblanc Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:08 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PC sat NO-44 Just make's me remember a very old email thread... Luc Leblanc VE2DWE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n4ufo at yahoo.com Fri Aug 7 09:52:40 2015 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] KA4H in EM86 Message-ID: <1020920816.583034.1438941160067.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> As I write this KA4H is calling CQ on FO-29 from EM86... he will also work the morning SO-50 passes from there. It's a grid not often heard, so if anyone needs it, this is a good opportunity.?73, Kevin N4UFO From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Fri Aug 7 17:44:45 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:44:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SPROUT question Message-ID: <55C4EE8D.7090201@denstarfarm.us> a few weeks ago, the SPROUT people put up an email here regarding listening to and reporting on SPROUT. That evening I heard the SSTV but didn't know how to decode it. Fast forwards to the last week, daytimes. I never hear the bird, here, in Kentucky. A few minutes ago SPROUT was dropping down from the north pole and I heard quite weak CW on 437.525, nil on 437.600 . Somewhere around Elevation 18 degrees and rising, The cw beacon went away. There was no sound , telemetry or SSTV rest of the pass. Do they shut SPROUT off for recharging? I can't think why I am not copying when I used to and when I am coping so many other birds. Anyone stateside doing regular telemetry decodes and SSTV off SPROUT? 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com Fri Aug 7 19:16:25 2015 From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:16:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: FW: PSAT/BRICsat status In-Reply-To: <20150805080806.34901uikdb4x8aiu@email.feec.vutbr.cz> References: <20150719111712.D0D456DC@centrum.cz> <55AB8D99.60309@xs4all.nl> <000d01d0c267$cbcec490$636c4db0$@mypbmail.com> <55B362FD.6090305@xs4all.nl> <000001d0cb46$f61ab8c0$e2502a40$@mypbmail.com> <20150805080806.34901uikdb4x8aiu@email.feec.vutbr.cz> Message-ID: <002401d0d145$8e3e2390$aaba6ab0$@mypbmail.com> Please note that the BRICSat Command team is requesting two things: (See email below.) 1. That amateurs try to receive the packet downlink of BRICsat. The command team needs more info about the sat and your reception reports. Please send data directly to Jin Kang 2. If you can, please do not try to make the transponder sense your PSK signal, in order to conserve the power. It should transmit telemetry as it is specified on their website. See website below: http://www.urel.feec.vutbr.cz/esl/files/Projects/BRICsat/Bricsat%20transpond er%20WEB%20spec02.htm Ray Hoad WA5QGD -----Original Message----- From: Urbanec Tom?? [mailto:urbanec at feec.vutbr.cz] Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 1:08 AM To: Ray Hoad ; Mike Rupprecht ; Jin Kang ; PA3GUO ; Peter Martinez ; Miroslav Kasal ; Petr Vagner ; hamsat at xs4all.nl Cc: 'Tom?? Urbanec' Subject: Re: FW: [amsat-bb] PSAT/BRICsat status Gentlemans, you have probably nailed that down. I have programmed my recorder for Ultrasat2 yesterday and on two passes I have positive reception of BRICSat. The ID for Bricsat I have taken from Jin Kang as principal operator of Bricsat and at that time it worked. But I havent received a beep from it for approx 14 days. So now it looks, like the Bricsat is transmitting... If you have beams for 70cm, try to receive the packet downlink of BRICsat as we need more info about the whole sat and receptions send please directly to Jin Kang . If you can, please do not try to make the transponder sense your PSK signal, to conserve the power. It should transmit telemetry as it is specified on our website. You can look at the S curve of my reception in the attachement for my loc JN89LE. Best regards and 73! de Tomas OK2PNQ From wa7eth at frontier.com Fri Aug 7 21:45:12 2015 From: wa7eth at frontier.com (wa7eth at frontier.com) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on FO-29 Message-ID: <230478324.1035291.1438983912394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Looking for CW contacts on FO-29 current pass over North America. ? I will be around 435.835 +/- Doppler. ?Come on down where the passband is quiet!.Ed ?WA7ETH From kx9x at yahoo.com Fri Aug 7 22:17:35 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 22:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] KX9X mobile 8/15-8/24 Message-ID: <1576968761.1058166.1438985855625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all- I'll be heading back to Illinois for a week's R&R. Not hitting anything rare, but I'll be QRV on SO-50 and possibly FO-29. I'll pass through the following grids: FN31FN21FN11FN10FN01EN91 (overnighting here August 15) EN80EM89EM79EM69EN60EN50 Will be staying just a few miles from the EN50/EN60/EM59/EM69 intersection. Trip back on August 22/23 will be reverse of the same. If anybody needs any of these, let me know and I'll make an effort to be on.?Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Fri Aug 7 22:30:45 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 22:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ESEO FUNcube-4 payload + Other News Message-ID: <229138897.1040076.1438986645389.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Work continues on ESEO FUNcube-4 transponder http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/07/eseo-funcube-4-update/ Do not Digipeat via PCSAT http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/07/do-not-digipeat-via-pcsat/ Watch BBC and CNN TV News reports on UK radio ham?s ISS contact http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/05/uk-radio-hams-iss-contact-in-the-press/ SPROUT Deployable Membrane ? Request for Telemetry http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/05/sprout-telemetry-request/ Frequencies Announced for Nayif-1 CubeSat http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/04/frequencies-announced-for-nayif-1-cubesat/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From k7trkradio at charter.net Fri Aug 7 21:57:37 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:57:37 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 In-Reply-To: References: <6AEBE19F-8F2E-46F4-9585-2CA5488D3E12@yahoo.com> <55C400EB.2000605@mwt.net> <4b9dda359e156cd934f94285f9c91173@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701d0d15c$135a0f10$3a0e2d30$@charter.net> Excellent point, Paul. 28.120 is a long standing default frequency for 10m PSK. It is actually fortunate that 10m propagation has been in the tank and, thus, activity is negligible. Fortunately, the PODX 070 Club does not have any events that will utilize 10m until next year. However, the 10-10 Club has 2 events upcoming where it can be expected that there may be increased activity on 28.120, worldwide: Oct 10 - Sprint - all modes and 11-14 - Digital. 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:45 PM To: Robert Bruninga Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Except it's uplink is the terrestrial frequency. We can't tell terrestrial users to not transmit in order to protect the satellite. This problem (and the problem reported earlier this week) is the reason satellite designers should always be using the international OSCAR subbands for satellite uplinks and downlinks. On 10 meters, that's 29.300-29.510 MHz. No satellite should have an uplink at 28.120 MHz. Also, why can't the transponder's transmitter be commanded off to prevent it from depleting the battery? 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > We let PSAT go into its first eclipse season with everything on. Not > a good idea. Now it is trying to dig out of its power hole. The > digipeater is turned off to conserve power, but we need users on the > PSK31 uplink to not transmit so that the UHF transmitter does not come up. > > It is the PSK31 that is running it down on every orbit. > > Bob, Wb4aPR > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:51 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 > > I thought this Bird was temporarily shut down. > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/6/2015 7:12 PM, Bob Cutter via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> The 435.35 downlink seems weak to me, anyone else? >> >> Bob KI?G >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jimlist at zoho.com Sat Aug 8 09:00:15 2015 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 10:00:15 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 operations In-Reply-To: <55C098A0.9070505@zoho.com> References: <37BDC8A892C1465E8495B3B9AEAD7561@allgood.local> <55B228F4.3030002@zoho.com> <55C098A0.9070505@zoho.com> Message-ID: <55C5C51F.8020804@zoho.com> Hi Folks, I have just switched FUNcube-1 into continuous transponder mode at approx 0855 UTC. I apologise for being approx 12 hours late due entirely to an oversight on my part! Have FUN! 73s Jim G3WGM From n4ufo at yahoo.com Sat Aug 8 11:13:39 2015 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] VO1ONE plans Message-ID: <657908647.831047.1439032419977.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> On the 1100z SO-50 pass, VO1ONE was in FO44. When the bird fell silent from lack of callers, I asked if he wanted me to post any plans. He said he should be in FO54 on the next SO-50 pass and that was the literal end of the road. From that point he would be reversing course and heading back the way he came. So if anyone missed any grids he was in going up, maybe you can work him on the way back. I would assume there also may be some 'new ones' he wasn't able to work going the other way. Thanks for all the fun, Mark... safe travels!? 73, Kevin N4UFO ? From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 8 12:29:41 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 12:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IARU International Secretariat announcement on Satellite Frequency Co-ordination Message-ID: <1253899517.1228071.1439036981383.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The following announcement has been released by the IARU International Secretariat: For some years, IARU has sought, through its group of volunteer satellite coordinators, to assign appropriate frequencies to be used by space satellites operating in the amateur bands. These efforts have generally been successful, allowing satellites to operate without undue interference to each other and to other services using the bands in question. The IARU role in coordination of frequencies is supported by ITU. IARU is aware of a few satellites already operating in amateur bands which are causing difficulties in parts of the world as the frequencies they use do not appear to accord to existing band plans. IARU has now become aware of plans to launch a series of satellites where the frequencies proposed appear to conflict with existing IARU band plans in some parts of the world. IARU is investigating how this has arisen, and is discussing the issues with the parties involved. http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php/88-news/1461-satellite-frequency-co-ordination 73 Trevor M5AKA From mm0kjg at googlemail.com Sat Aug 8 15:00:57 2015 From: mm0kjg at googlemail.com (Kevin Glacken) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:57 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Arrow antenna UK Message-ID: Hello Clint. It's a pity Amsat UK does not stock arrow. I imported one from the States a few years back and got hit with import tax duties. Nearly doubled the price. Amsat UK stocks the Elk antenna and would be nice if they had the Arrow as well. Cheers Kev MM0KJG From lmoline at hotmail.com Sat Aug 8 15:34:02 2015 From: lmoline at hotmail.com (Loren Moline WA7SKT) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 08:34:02 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I have circuit boards and parts to build the LVB tracker and don't see myself ever building it now. I am putting it up for sale and entertaining offers. I prefer to ship to US and Canada. Thanks! I know I have the circuit board, IC's, IC sockets, LCD readout and terminal strips. If interested I will inventory the parts to see what I have. Loren Moline WA7SKT Member: Pacific Northwest VHF Society and ARRL Member: Hearsat Satellite Monitoring Group. www.uhf-satcom.com Member: CVARS-Chehalis Valley Amateur Radio SocietyStarchat IRC: Channel = #hearsat RF Electronics: Starchat IRC: Channel = #rfelectronics Grid: CN86mr From lmoline at hotmail.com Sat Aug 8 15:34:35 2015 From: lmoline at hotmail.com (Loren Moline WA7SKT) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 08:34:35 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I have circuit boards and parts to build the LVB tracker and don't see myself ever building it now. I am putting it up for sale and entertaining offers. I prefer to ship to US and Canada. Thanks! I know I have the circuit board, IC's, IC sockets, LCD readout and terminal strips. If interested I will inventory the parts to see what I have. Loren Moline WA7SKT Member: Pacific Northwest VHF Society and ARRL Member: Hearsat Satellite Monitoring Group. www.uhf-satcom.com Member: CVARS-Chehalis Valley Amateur Radio SocietyStarchat IRC: Channel = #hearsat RF Electronics: Starchat IRC: Channel = #rfelectronics Grid: CN86mr From n4ufo at yahoo.com Sun Aug 9 00:12:33 2015 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 00:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ZF1DM active on SO-50 Message-ID: <1177614618.1320762.1439079153512.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all. The last few days I have been hearing a callsign trying to get into SO-50 but kept missing the first letter; something Fox one Delta Mike. I scratched my head on that one as there is no KF1DM in the FCC database. On a low elevation pass (for me) of SO-50 today I finally caught the whole call, ZF1DM!? It was very near my LOS, but we managed to squeak in a QSO. He e-mailed me later to say it was his FIRST satellite QSO! Also sent me a picture of the 2m tape measure beam he was using... - Moral to the story... he is a new ham, definitely a new sat op and I didn't see any gain antenna for UHF, so he may not be hearing really well. I know many will want to work him, but I'd like to suggest to try and take it easy on him until he gets his 'bird legs', so to speak. (I'm not even sure he has QSL cards, but I did asked.)? Sure is nice to see any new activity, but especially a new op in another DXCC.-Just wanted to share the info to help avoid confusion... good luck and 73 all, Kevin N4UFO. From wao at vfr.net Sun Aug 9 02:32:25 2015 From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 19:32:25 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-221 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <55C6BBB9.7000908@vfr.net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-221 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by 15 September * July/August 2015 AMSAT Journal Sent to the Print Shop * SPROUT Deployable Membrane ? Request for Telemetry * Frequencies Announced for Nayif-1 CubeSat * UK radio ham?s ISS contact in the press * Work continues on ESEO FUNcube-4 * Scout ISS ham radio contact video * Last Call for Papers: ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference * Satellite Frequency Co-ordination Announcement from IARU Region 1 * Chinese Amateur Radio Satellites Set to Launch in Early September * Do not Digipeat via PCSAT in IARU Region 1 * Planned DX Activity Via Satellite * AMSAT Events * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-221.01 ANS-221 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 221.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE August 9, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-221.01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by 15 September Ballots were mailed to AMSAT-NA members in good standing by 15 JULY 2015, and must be returned to the AMSAT-NA office by 15 SEP 2015 in order to be counted. Those sent outside North America were sent by air mail. Your completed ballot should be returned as promptly as possible, and those from outside North America preferably by air mail or other expedited means. This year there are eight candidates: Barry Baines, WD4ASW Jerry Buxton, N0JY Steve Coy, K8UD Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA Mark Hammond, N8MH EMike McCardel, KC8YLD Bob McGwier, N4HY Bruce Paige, KK5DO The four candidates receiving the highest number of votes will be seated as voting Board Members with two year terms. The two candidates receiving the next highest number of votes will be non-voting Alternate Board Members with terms of one year. Please vote for no more than four candidates. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the Board. Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT-NA. [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- July/August 2015 AMSAT Journal Sent to the Print Shop The July/August 2015 AMSAT Journal is complete and has been sent to the print shop. The Journal is sent six times a year to all members as one of AMSAT's membership benefits. In this issue you will find: + AMSAT Announcements + Apogee View by Barry Baines, WD4ASW + AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-DL, and Virginia Tech Announce Potential Phase-3E Opportunity + AMSAT 2015 Field Day Results by Bruce Paige, KK5DO + A Field Day 2015 Experience by George Carr, WA5KBH and Hector Martinez, CO6CBF/W5CBF + AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots in the Mail by Alan Biddle, WA4SCA + Engineering Update July/August 2015 by Jerry Buxton, N0JY + AMSAT at Dayton 2015 by Keith Baker, KB1SF/VA3KSF + Orbital Debrief - July/August 2015 by Paul Stoetzer, N8HM + ARISS Announces New Challenge Coin + Israel's Duchifat-1 Cubesat Open for Users by Shamai Opfer, 4Z1WS and David Greenberg, 4X1DG + Investigation of the International Arms Export Control Act of 1976 by Elizabeth Garbee, KC0OTR + A Quick Satellite Rover Trip by Kevin Manzer, N4UFO + 2015 AMSAT Symposium at Dayton Announcement + AMSAT Help Wanted Ads The Journal is always looking for your articles about your station, antenna topics, operating events and photos, technical articles suitable for amateur radio in space, software applications, software defined radio. To help you get started we have a web page "How to Write for the AMSAT Journal" posted at: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=1709. The editors are available to help get you from idea into print. A big round of thanks goes to our contributors for this issue. The editors do a lot of work behind the scenes to get each issue ready. Thanks to Bernhard, VA6MBJ; Douglas, KA2UPW/5; James, K3JPH; Joe, KB6IGK; Red, KC4LE. [ANS thanks the AMSAT Journal Team for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- SPROUT Deployable Membrane ? Request for Telemetry Students at Nihon University in Japan are requesting the assistance of radio amateurs in collecting telemetry from the SPROUT satellite which has deployed an inflatable membrane structure. The SPROUT JQ1YGZ Team say: We?d like to show to everyone about SPROUT, and we?d like to ask receiving cooperation to everyone. SPROUT was launched at May 24, 2014 from Tanegashima Space Center in Japan. There are 3 main missions in SPROUT. ?Deployment demonstration of inflatable membrane structure. ?Demonstration of attitude determination and control technology for several kilogram class nano-satellite. ?Upbringing of human resources of a space sector For more information http://sat.aero.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp/sprout-e/ Please see this website. This time, we made a deployment demonstration of inflatable membrane structure. But it?s necessary to get a deal of data to get information on a satellite, and it takes time to get one of data only my satellite communication ground station. So when everybody of amsat would do reception cooperation, information on a satellite can be got quickly. We?d like to request reception cooperation of everybody of ?AMSAT? for study promotion. If you wouldn?t mind, please reception cooperation. Please inform the following mail address of your question and a reception report ? sprout_contact at forth.aero.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp Best regards SPROUT JQ1YGZ Team on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008270115808 SPROUT transmits on 437.525 MHz FM 1k2 AFSK AX.25 http://www.dk3wn.info/sat/afu/sat_sprout.shtml SPROUT SSTV activation http://amsat-uk.org/2014/05/31/sprout-sstv-digitalker-active/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Frequencies Announced for Nayif-1 CubeSat Nayif-1 is an educational single CubeSat project with the goal of providing an actual space project for Emirati University students. Additionally it is intended to enthuse and educate young people about radio, space physics and electronics. The 1U CubeSat is a collaboration between the Mohammed Bin Rashid Space Center and the American University of Sharjah both in the United Arab Emirates. The spacecraft will only require simple ground station antennas and an SDR dongle receiver. This will make it uncomplicated for schools and colleges to use with their students. It is anticipated Nayif-1 will be launched into an elliptical, sun synchronous, Low Earth Orbit (LEO) about 400 by 750 km. In such an orbit the satellite passes over the Emirates at least twice a day. This would allow the morning passes to be used for educational purposes and the evening passes for Amateur Radio communications. The student team will develop and operate a special ground station for this spacecraft. They will also be developing a unique ?Dashboard? to display the received telemetry data and greetings messages in Arabic. Nayif-1 will incorporate a novel autonomous attitude determination and control system. This will be the first flight of this system. Additionally it will carry a UHF to VHF linear transponder (FUNcube-5) that will have up to 0.5 watt output and which can be used by Radio Amateurs worldwide for SSB and CW communications. A launch is planned for late 2015 on a SpaceX Falcoln 9. IARU coordinated frequencies for NAYIF-1: ? 145.940 MHz 1200 bps BPSK FUNcube beacon ? 500 mW inverting SSB/CW linear transponder ? 435.045-435.015 MHz Uplink ? 145.960-145.990 MHz Downlink Follow Nayif-1 on Twitter https://twitter.com/Nayifone Nayif-1 http://amsat-uk.org/satellites/communications/nayif-1/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- UK radio ham?s ISS contact in the press Adrian Lane 2E0SDR got some great newspaper publicity for the hobby when he made an amateur radio contact with an astronaut on the International Space Station. The story was published in the Thursday, August 6, 2015 edition of many UK national daily newspapers including The Sun, The Times, Telegraph, Independent, Daily Mail, Daily Express and Mirror. The Thursday edition of the BBC Radio 4 Today show also featured the story at 8:09:46am. To hear it fast forward to 2:09:46 in this recording: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0643x5z#play During Thursday evening the story featured on the TV news station CNN. On Friday, August 7, Adrian was interviewed about the contact on the BBC TV Victoria Derbyshire programme. Watch the interview at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33816779 The astronaut Adrian talked to was Kjell Lindgren who holds the amateur radio callsign KO5MOS. Kjell was operating the ISS amateur radio station in the ESA Columbus module using the callsign NA1SS. There is another ISS amateur radio station in the Russian Service module which uses the callsign RS0ISS. The online version of the Daily Mail story features a video interview with Adrian 2E0SDR http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3186534/Radio-ham-contacts- International-Space-Station-GARDEN-SHED.html CNN Story ? Ham radio and the ISS broadcast 1930 GMT Aug 6, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=35&v=XNs_b73Oiac Read the Telegraph story at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/11786461/Radio-ham- talks-to-space-station-from-garden-shed.html Read the Mirror newspaper story at http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/amateur-radio-enthusiast-dials- international-6199955 The Sun newspaper story is behind a paywall at http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6575742/One-small-step-for-a-ham.html The Register story: HAM IN SPAAAAAACE http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/06/radio_ham_talks_to_iss_astronaut_from_g arden_shed_in_gloucestershire/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Work continues on ESEO FUNcube-4 AMSAT-UK members have been busy this week working on the FUNcube-4 amateur radio payload for the new European Student Earth Orbiter (ESEO) satellite. On Friday, August 7, 2015 they tested the transponder and it seems to work fine. More testing and characterisation will follow over the next few days. This is the third mission within the European Space Agency?s Education Satellite Programme. The satellite, which has a mass of 40 kg and measures 33x33x63 cm, is planned to launch into a Low Earth Orbit (LEO). The spacecraft will carry a 1260/145 MHz FM transponder and 145 MHz 1200 bps BPSK telemetry beacon to provide a telemetry downlink that can be easily received by schools and colleges for educational outreach purposes. The data will be displayed in an attractive format and provide stimulation and encouragement for students to become interested in all STEM subjects in a unique way. The target audience is primarily students at both primary and secondary levels and the project includes the development of a simple and cheap ?ground station? operating on VHF frequencies in the Amateur Satellite Service. This station is an omni-directional antenna feeding a FUNcube DonglePRO+ SDR receiver which will receive the signals direct from the satellite and transfer the data to specially developed graphical software running on any Windows laptop. 2015 International Space Colloquium Presentations Playlist https://www.youtube.com/user/AMSATUK/playlists [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Scout ISS ham radio contact video Scouts at the 23rd World Scout Jamboree at Bunkyo-ku in Japan had an amateur radio contact with the International Space Station. The contact on July 31, 2015 was between 8N23WSJ and NA1SS operated by astronaut Kjell Lindgren, KO5MOS from the ISS Columbus module. Watch Radio scouting with the ISS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGhQ8OamfTY ARISS 23rd World Scout Jamboree contact http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2015/august/ariss_event_0308.htm 23rd World Scout Jamboree http://www.23wsj.jp/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Last Call for Papers: ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference ARRL/TAPR are soliciting technical papers for presentation at the 34th Annual ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference, to be held October 9-11 in Chicago, Illinois. Papers will also be published in the Conference Proceedings. You do not have to attend the conference to have your paper included in the Proceedings. The submission deadline is August 17, 2015. E-mail your submission to Maty Weinberg at ARRL Headquarters at maty at arrl.org Please to do not send zip files as these will be rejected by our e-mail server. [ANS thanks Steve Ford, WB8IMY, and the ARRL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Frequency Co-ordination Announcement from IARU Region 1 The following announcement has been released by the IARU International Secretariat: For some years, IARU has sought, through its group of volunteer satellite coordinators, to assign appropriate frequencies to be used by space satellites operating in the amateur bands. These efforts have generally been successful, allowing satellites to operate without undue interference to each other and to other services using the bands in question. The IARU role in coordination of frequencies is supported by ITU. IARU is aware of a few satellites already operating in amateur bands which are causing difficulties in parts of the world as the frequencies they use do not appear to accord to existing band plans. IARU has now become aware of plans to launch a series of satellites where the frequencies proposed appear to conflict with existing IARU band plans in some parts of the world. IARU is investigating how this has arisen, and is discussing the issues with the parties involved. We will make a further statement as soon as possible. http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php/88-news/1461-satellite-frequency-co-ordination [ANS thanks Trevor, M5AKA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Chinese Amateur Radio Satellites Set to Launch in Early September China?s Amateur Satellite Group CAMSAT said this week that nine satellites carrying Amateur Radio payloads have been delivered to the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center in Central China. CAMSAT CEO Alan Kung, BA1DU, said they?re expected to launch between September 7 and 9. All are part of the CAS-3 series of satellites. Four of the microsatellites and two of the CubeSats included in the launch have been designated as the XW-2 (Hope-2) amateur satellite system (XW-2A through XW-2F), although Kung also refers to them using their initial CAS-3A through CAS-3F nomenclature. The other three satellites ? a CubeSat, a nanosatellite, and a picosatellite, carry the designations CAS-3G through CAS- 3I, respectively. CAMSAT announced earlier this year that the launch date would be postponed from mid-July until early September. ?Each satellite of the CAS-3 series will work independently, and they are made by different organizations,? Kung told ARRL. The XW-2 series satellites are equipped with substantially identical Amateur Radio payloads ? a U/V mode linear transponder, a CW telemetry beacon and an AX.25 19.2k/9.6k baud GMSK telemetry downlink, CAMSAT said in May. Each Amateur Radio complement has the same technical characteristics, but will operate on different 70 centimeter uplink and 2 meter downlink frequencies. XW-2A through XW-2F have identical quarter-wavelength deployable monopole whip antennas made of steel tape. CAMSAT worked with three entities to complete the other three satellites: CAS- 3G (DCBB), a 2U CubeSat being built by Shenzhen HIT Satellite Ltd of China for educational purposes; CAS-3H (LilacSat-2), a Harbin Institute of Technology of China microsatellite for science experiments and Amateur Radio, and CAS-3I (NDT- Phone Sat), a National University of Defense Technology of China picosatellite for carrying out technical experiments. CAS-3G and CAS-3I will downlink digital telemetry on amateur frequencies, while CAS-3H will carry a U/V FM transponder and APRS. Details on all satellites are attached (see "Downloads," below). Kung said a Long March-6 rocket will carry the XW-2 and CAS-3 satellites into orbit along with 11 other satellites. http://www.arrl.org/news/chinese-amateur-radio-satellites-set-to-launch-in- early-september [ANS thanks the ARRL, CAMSAT CEO Alan Kung, BA1DU, and IARU for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Do not Digipeat via PCSAT in IARU Region 1 As has been reported in the RSGB News, the PCSAT spacecraft was launched some fourteen years ago and has, due to an on-board power system issue, started to transmit APRS on 144.390 MHz Although this is the correct frequency for APRS operation in IARU Region 2, it is not compatible with our Region 1 bandplan which has this part of the band designated for weak signal and particularly Meteor Scatter operation. The orbit of this spacecraft means that sometimes it is in full sunlight and, at other times, it is eclipsed for a major percentage of the orbit. As the on- board batteries have lost their ability to hold a charge, the problem can only occur when it is in sunlight. Various methods of mitigate this problem are presently under active consideration but in the meantime it is important that no amateur in Region 1 should attempt to digipeat through this spacecraft. Additionally those amateurs on the east coast of the American continent are also requested not to attempt to activate the spacecraft when it can be ?seen? from Europe. At IARU level, further work is being undertaken to reduce the risk from future spacecraft potentially causing similar problems. Such problems could result from developers not following the globally agreed bandplans for amateur satellite operations. In particular the IARU Satellite Coordinator has been requested to make urgent contact with the team responsible for XW-2(CAS-3) mission of nine satellites from China. Some of the proposed frequencies do not respect the internationally agreed Region 1 Bandplan for 2 metres. [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Planned DX Activity Via Satellite HH, HAITI. Doug, KD8CAO, son of K8YSE (OPDX Webmaster), will be active as HH8/KD8CAO from Jacmel (FK38rf) between August 15-22nd. He is there on a "Medical Mission Trip" with his XYL. Activity will be mainly on the satellites (SSB/FM), with a possibility of some HF activity (QRP). His activity on the satellite will be on FO29, AO7, AO73 and SO50. As this was being written, Doug was thinking of using/taking his FT-817 (this could change). QSL via KD8CAO and LoTW. T47, CUBA (LH Op). Members of the Camaguey Contest Crew got special permission to operate as T47LH during the ILLW from the Colon Light- house at Sabinal Key, Cuba. A crew of 5 hams (CO7RR, CO7SF, CO7FR, CO7DS and CO7WT) will be active from mid-day August 14th to mid-day August 16th. Operations are planned on all HF bands (60m is pending approval) and Satellite via SO-50 passes during the ILLW. For more info and details, see the QRZ.com page for T47LH. QSL route is TBD. V7, MARSHALL ISLANDS. A group of JA operators will be active from Majuro Island (OC-029) between September 24-28th. Operators are YL Mami/JP3AYQ (V73YL) and her husband Sanny/JJ3CIG (V73H), Team Leader Takio/JH3QFL (V73A), Co-Leader Keizo "Kay"/JH3AZC (V7EME) and Hiro/JR3GWZ (V73GW). Activity will be on the HF bands, 6 meters, satellite, EME, CW, SSB and RTTY. Radios are a FT857 and FT847. Their antennas will be a homebrew 3 element full size beam (3 bands) and a SpiderBeam antenna (5 band). They will also have a Elecraft 500w amp to use. QSL all operators via their home callsigns. ADDED NOTES: * YL Mami, JP3AYQ, states (on QRZ.com), that her activity will be holiday style (she like to scuba dive) on the HF bands using CW (be patient), SSB and the Digital mode (RTTY). Suggested frequencies are the IOTA frequencies, such as 14260, 14040, 21260 and 21040 kHz. QSL via JP3AYQ, direct, by the Bureau or LoTW. Log will be uploaded to LoTW and ClubLog. She does have a Blog page at: http://jp3ayq.269g.net * Sanny, JJ3CIG/KH0YA, states (on QRZ.com), that he plans to operate on the JT65 mode. QSL via his home callsign, direct or by eQSL. [ANS thanks Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #1225 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Events Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around the country. Examples of these events are radio club meetings where AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations, forums, and/or demonstrations). *Saturday, 15 August 2015 ? Arctic Amateur Radio Club Hamfest in Fairbanks AK *Sunday, 16 August 2015 ? demonstration at Chena Hot Springs AK *Saturday and Sunday, 22-23 August 2015 ? Boxboro Hamfest and ARRL New England Convention in Boxborough MA *Saturday and Sunday, 5-6 September - ARRL Roanoke Division Convention Shelby, NC Hamfest, AMSAT Forum scheduled for Saturday *Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, October 16-18 2015, AMSAT Symposium in Dayton OH (Dayton Crown Plaza) *Saturday, 7 November 2015 ? Oro Valley Amateur Radio Club Hamfest in Marana AZ *Saturday, 5 December 2015 ? Superstition Superfest 2015 in Mesa AZ [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Successful Contacts Maroochydore State School, Maroochydore, Queensland, Australia, telebridge via LU1CGB The ISS callsign scheduled was NA1SS The scheduled astronaut was Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS Contact was successful: Thu 2015-08-06 10:10:26 UTC 59 deg The Maroochydore ISS contact was a success with all 10 questions answered in detail by Kjell. There were good signals right through the entire contact. The principal Stuard Maish just had enough time to thank Kjell before LOS. Space Jam 9, Rantoul, IL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign was scheduled to be OR4ISS The astronaut was Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS Contact was successful: Sat 2015-08-08 16:58:02 UTC 33 deg Space Jam 9 just had a successful contact. All 24 questions got asked and we did get 24 answers. The last 3 or 4 were pretty noisy but he was there. There was no notice any signal dropouts and the signal seemed pretty steady throughout. Space Jam 9 has about 1000 scouts there for the weekend. The contact was held outside so all could see. Space Jam 9 did their annual balloon launch, they told me it went to 101000 feet and traveled about 40 miles. They had a beacon going and a cross band repeater. The electronics were recovered just fine. Greetings to all stations from the participants and volunteers of Space Jam 9 in Rantoul, Illinois. Though primarily a weekend Scouting and STEM education event, we are open to all interested youth. Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts from 24 states have come together in an educational and fun format to learn more about the life skills that will prepare them for the increasingly complex technological future. Training is our theme this year. While it is well known that Scouting teaches pioneering skills like camping and wilderness survival, the new pioneers and wilderness are in outer space and we are working hard at 44 technology oriented Merit Badges and activities, plus some fun things like the Duct Tape Merit Badge. Talking to the astronauts on the ISS is an unforgettable part of the experience at Space Jam and that's next on our list. We will not know for many years whether one of these youths becomes an astronaut themselves but it is certain that they are all part of tomorrow's leaders. ESA Space Camp, K?lsheim, Gemany A telebridge contact with students at ESA Space Camp, K?lsheim, Gemany, was successful Mon 2015-08-03 10:43:44 UTC 75 deg. The interview was conducted via W6SRJ with astronaut Kjell Lindgren, KO5MOS, who answered 21 questions for students. The European Space Agency (ESA )Space Camp 2015 was held in the Germany at a sport and activity centre Aktiv-Welt in K?lsheim, which is situated on the beautiful landscape of Baden-W?rttemberg. The camp will run from Sunday 26 July to Saturday 8 August 2015. 165 children aged 8 to 17 years old will be participating in this annual space camp from every ESA establishment in Europe where their parents are working. The children will learn in the spirit of international cooperation and team work where the camp theme of ? My planet, beyond Earth?, will be take these young explorers on a continuing journey around our planet and beyond. The children will be participating in a range of physical and cultural activities as well as a full space education program. Apart from the science element, the children will learn how to work as part of a team, to be respectful of different cultures and embrace and appreciate the various talents each child brings to a group. Good training for any ?first contacts? that the future may bring! Learning through active participation will be paramount as with every camp - as well as having FUN! Beyond Earth ? as last year, the children will continue to ?reach for the stars? with new and innovative activities involving rocket design and launches as well as making observations of the night sky using telescopes. With such an environment as in K?lsheim, we hope to explore more of the sky in relatively low light pollution. The children will be expected to communicate activities in a range of ways from designing and drawing to building models. It is hoped that the spirit of fun and collaboration with such an international group of young children will enable them to learn new things as well as share information which will help each other be better acquainted with the space environment their families work in. The audio file can be downloaded from the internet at https://www.dropbox.com/s/eb1y6ke2lgg0h35/ISS-final.mp3?dl=0 Upcoming ARISS Contacts Fleurance Astronomy Festival, France, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is TBD Contact is a go for: Fri 2015-08-14 19:42:01 UTC 46 deg Fleurance is a small town located in the South-West of France near Toulouse, in the Gers department, with about 7,000 inhabitants. One of the main specialties of this city is the French gastronomy, and especially everything made from duck (e.g. french foie gras, duck magret) and melon. In terms of beverages, Gers is the home region of Armagnac (french alcohol made from white wine), Floc de Gascogne (made from Armagnac and grape must) and Pousse-Rapi?re (made from Armagnac and a kind of Champagne). Since 1991, the French Astronomy Festival takes place in August in Fleurance where more than 10,000 people attend this summer event, the largest European festival on astronomy and space topics. More than 50 international researchers as well as astronauts are welcomed and give lectures to everyone coming to the festival over the week. Since 2006, Astro-jeunes, a kids festival, is organized during the same week, and welcomes more than 200 children per day to unveil them the mysteries of our universe and space conquest history. A dozen of children from this festival and the Fleurance high-school "Hubert Reeves" (sponsor of the Festival) have prepared this contact both with their physics and English teachers. Watch http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled. [ANS thanks ARISS, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over * Live Broadcast of Space Launch System RS-25 Engine Test Firing The Space Launch System, or SLS, Liquid Engines Office is conducting a series of tests for its RS-25 engine. The seven-test series began in January 2015 and will conclude in September 2015. On Aug. 13, 2015, at 4:30 p.m. EDT, a 550-second test will be conducted at Stennis Space Center near Bay St. Louis, Mississippi. The seven-test series will provide critical data on the new engine controller unit and will show how the RS-25 will perform. New ablative insulation and heaters also will be tested during the series. NASA's SLS will help send humans to deep space destinations like an asteroid and Mars. SLS is an advanced, heavy-lift launch vehicle that will provide an entirely new capability for science and human exploration beyond Earth's orbit. The SLS will give the nation a means to reach beyond our current limits and open new doors of discovery from the unique vantage point of space. The test will be carried live on NASA TV beginning at 4 p.m. EDT and will be streamed at http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html. Please make plans to watch and hear the rumble as NASA continues on its Journey to Mars. To learn more about the Space Launch System, visit http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/sls/ [ANS thanks NASA Education Express Message -- Aug. 6, 2015 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Joe Spier, K6WAO k6wao at amsat dot org From kc0bmf at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 03:33:31 2015 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:33:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for help with UISS and Satgate v2 Message-ID: ? Hello to the Groups My name is John my call W0JW. I have been having troubles with my Sat-gate misplacing stations on the ?http://www.ariss.net/ map and sending bad packets to aprs.is. The two stations of interest are mine W0JW-6 and N0AGI-1. So when my station receives a packet from the ISS my UISS copies this Fm N0AGI-1 To CQ Via RS0ISS* [19:52:31] @090052z4439.87N/09328.10W`-=5= MN,USA. sGate.John 3:16 ==- aprs.fi reports 2015-08-08 19:52:31 CDT: *N0AGI-1 *>CQ,RS0ISS* ,qAR,W0JW-6 :@4439.87N/09328.10W`-=5= MN,USA. sGate.John 3:16 ==- *[Delayed or out-of-order packet (timestamp)] * and http://www.ariss.net/ spots N0AGI-1 in Northern Canada on the map when he is actually in Minnesooota. So the things I know are, I'm using UISS version 5.4 Sat-Gate version 2 and UZ7HO sound modem. N0AGI is using WX3IN1 Mini version 1.12. N0AGI isn't the only station that I've misplaced, there have been others, and what I notice first off is , the time is before the coordinates and the 2 stations that I checked on the aprs servers were both using 3IN1 Mini. There is also one other station using UISS Sat-Gate v2 and it has also misplaced a station on the map,not sure if the station he misplaced was using WX3IN1. What I don't know is, in my case,why is it always the same stations that I have problems with ? Could it be a conflict with Sat-Gate and WX3IN1 ? Or a problem with Sat-Gate v2 or WX3IN1 ? Although we don't seem to have problems with others. I don't recall having this issue with v1. Well that's all I can think of at this time, if there is any other data that I could provide to help in solving this problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time John W0JW 73 From kc0bmf at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 03:41:09 2015 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:41:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for help with UISS and Satgate v2 Message-ID: should read 2015-08-08 19:52:31 CDT: *N0AGI-1 *>CQ,RS0ISS* ,qAR,W0JW-6 :@4439.87N/09328.10W`-=5= MN,USA. sGate.John 3:16 ==- *[Delayed or out-of-order packet (timestamp)]* 1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk From clintbrad4d at earthlink.net Sun Aug 9 03:47:27 2015 From: clintbrad4d at earthlink.net (Clint Bradford) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 20:47:27 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Arrow UK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EE32277-59B4-451F-A305-14BBCD2648D1@earthlink.net> I would be pleased to send you one - after your purchase (you could send me the money via PayPal or whatever - US$150) - but even if I mark the customs label as "gift," it sounds like your country's duty fees are still a problem. Please privately email me if you know of how to "properly" word that US Postal Service customs label - clintbradford at mac.com Clint K6LCS 01-909-241-7666 - cell clintbradford - Skype From bill.aa7xt at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 06:08:52 2015 From: bill.aa7xt at gmail.com (William Hein) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 00:08:52 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 setup question Message-ID: I hope a SatPC32 setup question is not out of line here. I am just getting back on the satellites after a long layoff. My last sat QSOs were on AO-10 and AO-13! I downloaded and registered SatPC32 a few days ago. Seems to be running OK. Its the interfacing that's throwing me off. I have an AlfaSpid RAS rotator. How do I answer the Rotor Setup query: "Turning point of az. rotor (S or N)" I have my rotator set up to be north centered, does that make the 'turning point' N or S? Also having trouble connecting SatPC32 to my AlfaSpid MD-01 controller. I have the controller interfaced on MD-01 COM 1 running in Rot2Prog mode and my PC connected on COM 1, both running at 19,200 baud 8-N-1. When I launch Sat32PC I get the error message "Port 1 could not be opened" What am I doing wrong? Tnx & 73 Bill BIll AA7XT (ex-AA6TT,e x-NT1Y) Glade Park CO DM59pa From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Sun Aug 9 12:15:04 2015 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 14:15:04 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 setup question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55C74448.8000902@t-online.de> Bill, the "Turning point" setting in menu "Rotor Setup" is meaningless with the Alfa Spid rotators. You will see that it makes no difference whether it is S or N. The Readme text is not correct regarding this point. Set the COM port number in the setup window of ServerSpid. Make sure that you don't choose the same port as in the menu "Radio Setup". Otherwise you will get the message that the port can not be opened. 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 09.08.2015 um 08:08 schrieb William Hein: > I hope a SatPC32 setup question is not out of line here. I am just getting > back on the satellites after a long layoff. My last sat QSOs were on AO-10 > and AO-13! > > I downloaded and registered SatPC32 a few days ago. Seems to be running OK. > Its the interfacing that's throwing me off. > > I have an AlfaSpid RAS rotator. How do I answer the Rotor Setup query: > "Turning point of az. rotor (S or N)" I have my rotator set up to be north > centered, does that make the 'turning point' N or S? > > Also having trouble connecting SatPC32 to my AlfaSpid MD-01 controller. I > have the controller interfaced on MD-01 COM 1 running in Rot2Prog mode and > my PC connected on COM 1, both running at 19,200 baud 8-N-1. When I launch > Sat32PC I get the error message "Port 1 could not be opened" What am I > doing wrong? > > Tnx & 73 > Bill > > BIll AA7XT > (ex-AA6TT,e x-NT1Y) > Glade Park CO > DM59pa > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bill.aa7xt at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 15:26:22 2015 From: bill.aa7xt at gmail.com (William Hein) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 09:26:22 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 setup question In-Reply-To: <55C74448.8000902@t-online.de> References: <55C74448.8000902@t-online.de> Message-ID: Thank you, Erich! It is now working. it is very nice software! I do have one problem, however. I have set up my coax feedlines for a "North Centered" arrangement with RAS set to not turn past south in either direction, CW or CCW. I just asked SatPC32 to track AO-7 and the azimuth went from around 10 degrees moving clockwise past south all the way to 330 degrees. (It only had to go 40 degrees CCW). My feedlines are not set up for this. How do I get SatPC32 to not turn through south? 73 Bill AA7XT BIll AA7XT Glade Park CO DM59pa On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Erich Eichmann wrote: > Bill, > the "Turning point" setting in menu "Rotor Setup" is meaningless with the > Alfa Spid rotators. You will see that it makes no difference whether it is > S or N. The Readme text is not correct regarding this point. > Set the COM port number in the setup window of ServerSpid. Make sure that > you don't choose the same port as in the menu "Radio Setup". Otherwise you > will get the message that the port can not be opened. > 73s, Erich, DK1TB > > > Am 09.08.2015 um 08:08 schrieb William Hein: > >> I hope a SatPC32 setup question is not out of line here. I am just getting >> back on the satellites after a long layoff. My last sat QSOs were on AO-10 >> and AO-13! >> >> I downloaded and registered SatPC32 a few days ago. Seems to be running >> OK. >> Its the interfacing that's throwing me off. >> >> I have an AlfaSpid RAS rotator. How do I answer the Rotor Setup query: >> "Turning point of az. rotor (S or N)" I have my rotator set up to be >> north >> centered, does that make the 'turning point' N or S? >> >> Also having trouble connecting SatPC32 to my AlfaSpid MD-01 controller. I >> have the controller interfaced on MD-01 COM 1 running in Rot2Prog mode and >> my PC connected on COM 1, both running at 19,200 baud 8-N-1. When I launch >> Sat32PC I get the error message "Port 1 could not be opened" What am I >> doing wrong? >> >> Tnx & 73 >> Bill >> >> BIll AA7XT >> (ex-AA6TT,e x-NT1Y) >> Glade Park CO >> DM59pa >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> > From wa6ilt at charter.net Sun Aug 9 19:20:12 2015 From: wa6ilt at charter.net (wa6ilt) Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 15:20:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sequencers for sale Message-ID: <55C7A7EC.3020007@charter.net> Hi All, I have a pair of SSB DCW 15B sequencers for sale. They both have N connectors. I would like to sell them as a pair. Asking $150, including ground shipping to U.S. I will ship overseas, but the buyer will have to pay actual shipping. Please e-mail me at wa6ilt at amsat.org. 73, Dave Reinhart WA6ILT From n4hf.philip at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 23:33:52 2015 From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 19:33:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Dual-band 2M/440 Tape Measure antennas Message-ID: Could anyone point me toward a website where someone has built a dual-band tape measure antenna for satellite use? I'm particularly interested in the measurements (element length on each band, element spacing for each band, etc). These antennas will be used (hopefully!) for satellites, but will also double as tracking antennas for fox hunts (more about that in a longer post that I'll write in a few minutes.) Thanks Philip N4HF From n4hf.philip at gmail.com Sun Aug 9 23:59:32 2015 From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 19:59:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible satellite operation: an upcoming special event station/ham radio demos Message-ID: I'm going to be heavily involved with a special event station - and ham radio demos for the public - at a 10 day long regional (multi-county) Fair starting September 11. This is the third year for our multi-club effort as N4F; see the details of what we're doing and have done in the past on pages 65-66 of September 2015 QST, and HamRadioNow.tv, episode 171. (Email me off-list if you want to know more, have questions, about what we're doing at the NC Mountain State Fair after reading the article or seeing the video.) This year we're going to try to add some satellite activity, and since I'm the only one in this area with any satellite experience (which is a gross overstatement :-) ), I'm looking for ideas from this bulletin board for a list of potential demos. I posted earlier about dual-band tape measure antennas (we may even try to build some at the Fair) to be used for SO-50, but mainly those will be for transmitter hunts. We just want to show the public how easy - and inexpensive - it can be to build some of your own equipment. Linear sats are pretty much out, unless I take my TS-2000 to the Fairgrounds, and even then I won't be there all the time. So that is low on the possibility list. Some things I have batted around are: 1) Dedicated APRS station for ISS 2) Dedicated Weather Fax reception station 3) SO-50 demos 4) ISS voice contacts (I know this is very hit or miss) 5) IF the ISS were doing SSTV picture downloads like twice earlier this year....I know this isn't going to happen :-) Are there any satellites currently sending pictures on a regular basis? 6) Are there any satellites with easily decodable telemetry? So I'm very open to other ideas, and even open as to what not to even consider.. Email me off the list if you like - N4HF at AMSAT.ORG; I know that replies via the bulletin board can get rather long and unwieldy when the original email broaches so many ideas (like this one) Thanks Philip N4HF From n4ufo at yahoo.com Mon Aug 10 02:15:31 2015 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 02:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Dual-band 2M/440 Tape Measure antennas Message-ID: <1382060585.1704540.1439172931339.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Have to work a little on your Google-fu, Philip... =^D 73, N4UFO? http://w6nbc.com/articles/2011-12QSTtapemeasure.pdf From kc0bmf at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 15:29:05 2015 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 10:29:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat-Gate Message-ID: ? Hello My name is John my call W0JW. I have been having troubles with my Sat-gate misplacing stations on the ariss.net map and sending bad packets to aprs.is. The two stations of interest are mine W0JW-6 and N0AGI-1. So, when my station receives a packet from the ISS my UISS copies this Fm N0AGI-1 To CQ Via RS0ISS* [19:52:31] @090052z4439.87N/09328.10W`-=5= MN,USA. sGate.John 3:16 ==- aprs.fi reports 2015-08-08 19:52:31 CDT:N0AGI-1>CQ,RS0ISS*,qAR,W0JW-6:@4439.87N/09328.10W`-=5= MN,USA.sGATE.John 3:16 ==- [Delayed or out-of-order packet (timestamp)] and ariss.net spots N0AGI-1 in Northern Canada on the map when he is actually in Minnesota. So the things I know are, I'm using UISS version 5.4 Sat-Gate version 2 and UZ7HO sound modem. N0AGI is using WX3IN1 Mini version 1.12. N0AGI isn't the only station that I've misplaced, there have been others, and what I notice first off is ,on my received from the ISS, the time is before the coordinates. And the 2 stations, that I misplaced on the maps, were both using 3IN1 Mini,according to the aprs servers. There is also one other station using UISS Sat-Gate v2 and it has also misplaced a station on the map,not sure if the station he misplaced was using WX3IN1. What I don't know is, in my case,why is it always the same stations that I have problems with ? Could it be a conflict with Sat-Gate and WX3IN1 ? Or a problem with Sat-Gate v2 or WX3IN1 ? Although we don't seem to have problems with others. I don't recall having this issue with UISS Satgate v1. Well that's all I can think of at this time, if there is any other data that I could provide to help in solving this problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time John W0JW 73 From ki0g at yahoo.com Mon Aug 10 17:14:32 2015 From: ki0g at yahoo.com (Bob Cutter) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:14:32 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Arrow Diplexer Message-ID: If the Amsat preamp is inserted between the antenna and the diplexer will that protect the preamp? Bob, KI?G From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 10 17:20:09 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:20:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Arrow Diplexer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes. The diplexer provides about 60 dB of isolation, so about 5 x 10^-6 watts of RF will get into the preamp. That won't cause any problems. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Bob Cutter via AMSAT-BB wrote: > If the Amsat preamp is inserted between the antenna and the diplexer will that protect the preamp? > > Bob, KI?G > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From akx2 at dacor.net Mon Aug 10 17:07:37 2015 From: akx2 at dacor.net (Michael A. Foster) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:07:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wanted Message-ID: <61F4947AE8704BECA5D9DCA4CAB6162A@WorldComm> looking for Ic-910 - UX-910 1200mhz band unit.. Tnx, Michael A. Foster ? n8iup From yogiwn9q at gmail.com Mon Aug 10 19:28:38 2015 From: yogiwn9q at gmail.com (David Jaeger) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:28:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks to all for SO-50 contacts Message-ID: I was asked to do a satellite demo on Saturday afternoon 8-8-2015. The demo would be at the "Brat Fry" fundraiser put on by the newly formed Lakeshore Amateur Radio Service Club (LARSC) in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. The club also had some of their ARES/RACES gear set up to demo to the public. The demonstration generated a lot of interest with the public passing by. This all took place in a crowded parking lot at Festival Foods. I knew it would be a challenge to work a satellite pass with the traffic passing by and our location was next to a large building. An earlier pass to the east was totally blocked by the building.The only opportunity for a clear pass was at 21:06z. I was elated with the good response from the satellite community. I had quite a few stations calling me. The group that was present was quite impressed when they heard all the stations coming back to my call. There was a lot of discussion about working satellites after the demo. Thank you to all those stations that called me and helped make the demo a success. 73 to all, Dave WN9Q From david at rushtone.com Sun Aug 9 22:56:20 2015 From: david at rushtone.com (David Rush) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 16:56:20 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? Message-ID: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? 73, David, ky7dr From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon Aug 10 22:22:48 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:22:48 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> Message-ID: David, AmsatDroid Free is a nice Android app for satellite tracking. Works well on phones and tablets, and you can make the app use your location via GPS (if your device has GPS). I have been using versions of this app for the past couple of years. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:56 PM, David Rush wrote: > Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually > tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Mon Aug 10 22:45:24 2015 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (dave at g4dpz.me.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 23:45:24 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> Message-ID: <4502FCEF-54A2-4BD7-B905-7CC82E1867BB@g4dpz.me.uk> And the developer is online too :-) Enjoy! 73 Dave, G4DPZ Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Aug 2015, at 23:22, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > > David, > > AmsatDroid Free is a nice Android app for satellite tracking. Works > well on phones and tablets, and you can make the app use your location > via GPS (if your device has GPS). I have been using versions of this > app for the past couple of years. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > > >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:56 PM, David Rush wrote: >> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually >> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w5pfg at amsat.org Mon Aug 10 22:54:47 2015 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:54:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> Message-ID: <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my smartphone. I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many more features.) It does a lot more advanced things you'd expect out of a desktop application. AmsatDroid Free handles my primary needs very well and therefore I use it regularly. It also is available at every radio amateur's favorite price. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: > Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually > tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? > > 73, David, ky7dr From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 01:05:40 2015 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg Dolkas) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:05:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> Message-ID: <662b9216-da8a-49af-9425-6e5990d4749a@email.android.com> Agreed; great app. Use it all the time. Greg. KO6TH On August 10, 2015 3:22:48 PM PDT, "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" wrote: >David, > >AmsatDroid Free is a nice Android app for satellite tracking. Works >well on phones and tablets, and you can make the app use your location >via GPS (if your device has GPS). I have been using versions of this >app for the past couple of years. > >73! > > > > >Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK >http://www.wd9ewk.net/ >Twitter: @WD9EWK > > >On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:56 PM, David Rush wrote: >> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually >> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From david at rushtone.com Tue Aug 11 02:15:15 2015 From: david at rushtone.com (David Rush) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 20:15:15 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> Message-ID: <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> I've got AmsatDroid Free, and it's fine for seeing upcoming passes and has some other useful features, but it doesn't seem to provide real-time information on where to point my antenna during a pass. It provides AOS azimuth, max el, and LOS azimuth, but nothing real-time, unless I'm missing something. I'll check out the other suggestions. Thanks. 73, David, ky7dr On 2015-08-10 16:54, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my smartphone. > > I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many more features.) It > does a lot more advanced things you'd expect out of a desktop > application. > > AmsatDroid Free handles my primary needs very well and therefore I use > it regularly. It also is available at every radio amateur's favorite > price. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: >> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually >> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? >> >> 73, David, ky7dr From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 02:35:25 2015 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg Dolkas) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 19:35:25 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> Message-ID: <8a49dd2b-012a-4504-9062-551cb0cf28cf@email.android.com> Tap on one of the passes, and it will bring up an Az / El compass showing the pass arc and where the bird is in real time. Aim your antenna as indicated, and off you go. Greg. KO6TH On August 10, 2015 7:15:15 PM PDT, David Rush wrote: >I've got AmsatDroid Free, and it's fine for seeing upcoming passes and >has some other useful features, but it doesn't seem to provide >real-time >information on where to point my antenna during a pass. It provides AOS > >azimuth, max el, and LOS azimuth, but nothing real-time, unless I'm >missing something. > >I'll check out the other suggestions. > >Thanks. > >73, David, ky7dr > >On 2015-08-10 16:54, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >> AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my smartphone. >> >> I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many more features.) >It >> does a lot more advanced things you'd expect out of a desktop >> application. >> >> AmsatDroid Free handles my primary needs very well and therefore I >use >> it regularly. It also is available at every radio amateur's favorite > >> price. >> >> 73 >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> >> On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: >>> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for >manually >>> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? >>> >>> 73, David, ky7dr > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From steve.w5iem at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 02:42:52 2015 From: steve.w5iem at gmail.com (Steve May) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 02:42:52 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <8a49dd2b-012a-4504-9062-551cb0cf28cf@email.android.com> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> <8a49dd2b-012a-4504-9062-551cb0cf28cf@email.android.com> Message-ID: I am a fan of ISS Detector. It certainly isn't just for the ISS, either. The developer has all of the amateur radio satellites in the app, and you can set alerts for certain satellites along with a minimum elevation. Great widget as well, which allows for a quick glance at the objects you are tracking. Steve, W5IEM On Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 10:35 PM Greg Dolkas wrote: > Tap on one of the passes, and it will bring up an Az / El compass showing > the pass arc and where the bird is in real time. Aim your antenna as > indicated, and off you go. > > Greg. KO6TH > > > On August 10, 2015 7:15:15 PM PDT, David Rush wrote: > >I've got AmsatDroid Free, and it's fine for seeing upcoming passes and > >has some other useful features, but it doesn't seem to provide > >real-time > >information on where to point my antenna during a pass. It provides AOS > > > >azimuth, max el, and LOS azimuth, but nothing real-time, unless I'm > >missing something. > > > >I'll check out the other suggestions. > > > >Thanks. > > > >73, David, ky7dr > > > >On 2015-08-10 16:54, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > >> AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my smartphone. > >> > >> I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many more features.) > >It > >> does a lot more advanced things you'd expect out of a desktop > >> application. > >> > >> AmsatDroid Free handles my primary needs very well and therefore I > >use > >> it regularly. It also is available at every radio amateur's favorite > > > >> price. > >> > >> 73 > >> Clayton > >> W5PFG > >> > >> On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: > >>> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for > >manually > >>> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? > >>> > >>> 73, David, ky7dr > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >Opinions expressed > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >of AMSAT-NA. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >program! > >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From saguaroastro at cox.net Tue Aug 11 02:46:39 2015 From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 19:46:39 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? Message-ID: The one thing I wish it would do is allow the selection of multiple satellites.? I'd like list of all upcoming passes without having to select each one individually. Other than that, it's a great app 73 Rick Tejera K7TEJSaguaroAstro at cox.net623-203-4121 -------- Original message -------- From: Greg Dolkas Date: 08/10/2015 19:35 (GMT-07:00) To: David Rush , amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? Tap on one of the passes, and it will bring up an Az / El compass showing the pass arc and where the bird is in real time.? Aim your antenna as indicated, and off you go. Greg. KO6TH On August 10, 2015 7:15:15 PM PDT, David Rush wrote: >I've got AmsatDroid Free, and it's fine for seeing upcoming passes and >has some other useful features, but it doesn't seem to provide >real-time >information on where to point my antenna during a pass. It provides AOS > >azimuth, max el, and LOS azimuth, but nothing real-time, unless I'm >missing something. > >I'll check out the other suggestions. > >Thanks. > >73, David, ky7dr > >On 2015-08-10 16:54, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >> AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my smartphone. >> >> I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many more features.) >It >> does a lot more advanced things you'd expect out of a desktop >> application. >> >> AmsatDroid Free handles my primary needs very well and therefore I >use >> it regularly.? It also is available at every radio amateur's favorite > >> price. >> >> 73 >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> >> On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: >>> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for >manually >>> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? >>> >>> 73, David, ky7dr > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Tue Aug 11 06:54:24 2015 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (dave at g4dpz.me.uk) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 07:54:24 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> Message-ID: <25E45C68-478D-44C4-93C2-4B8606263D89@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi Tap on a row on the pass list and you will get the predicted track or realtime plot. Dave, G4DPZ Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Aug 2015, at 03:15, David Rush wrote: > > I've got AmsatDroid Free, and it's fine for seeing upcoming passes and has some other useful features, but it doesn't seem to provide real-time information on where to point my antenna during a pass. It provides AOS azimuth, max el, and LOS azimuth, but nothing real-time, unless I'm missing something. > > I'll check out the other suggestions. > > Thanks. > > 73, David, ky7dr > >> On 2015-08-10 16:54, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >> AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my smartphone. >> >> I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many more features.) It does a lot more advanced things you'd expect out of a desktop application. >> >> AmsatDroid Free handles my primary needs very well and therefore I use it regularly. It also is available at every radio amateur's favorite price. >> >> 73 >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> >>> On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: >>> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually >>> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? >>> >>> 73, David, ky7dr > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gus at 8p6sm.net Tue Aug 11 12:28:00 2015 From: gus at 8p6sm.net (Gus) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 08:28:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> Message-ID: <55C9EA50.9040303@8p6sm.net> When ever I try to install it, I get "This app is incompatible with all of your devices", so I can't install it on anything. -- Gus 8P6SM The Easternmost Isle On 08/10/2015 10:15 PM, David Rush wrote: > I've got AmsatDroid Free, and it's fine for seeing upcoming passes and > has some other useful features, but it doesn't seem to provide > real-time information on where to point my antenna during a pass. It > provides AOS azimuth, max el, and LOS azimuth, but nothing real-time, > unless I'm missing something. > > I'll check out the other suggestions. > > Thanks. > > 73, David, ky7dr > > On 2015-08-10 16:54, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >> AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my smartphone. >> >> I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many more features.) >> It does a lot more advanced things you'd expect out of a desktop >> application. >> >> AmsatDroid Free handles my primary needs very well and therefore I >> use it regularly. It also is available at every radio amateur's >> favorite price. >> >> 73 >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> >> On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: >>> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually >>> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? >>> >>> 73, David, ky7dr > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From Mvivona at yahoo.com Tue Aug 11 12:47:26 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 08:47:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <55C9EA50.9040303@8p6sm.net> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> <55C9EA50.9040303@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: <8FA00524-AF53-40CC-A353-5B435356C38D@yahoo.com> Do you possibly have an iPhone? If so, the app "GoSatWatch" is killer. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 11, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Gus wrote: When ever I try to install it, I get "This app is incompatible with all of your devices", so I can't install it on anything. -- Gus 8P6SM The Easternmost Isle > On 08/10/2015 10:15 PM, David Rush wrote: > I've got AmsatDroid Free, and it's fine for seeing upcoming passes and has some other useful features, but it doesn't seem to provide real-time information on where to point my antenna during a pass. It provides AOS azimuth, max el, and LOS azimuth, but nothing real-time, unless I'm missing something. > > I'll check out the other suggestions. > > Thanks. > > 73, David, ky7dr > >> On 2015-08-10 16:54, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >> AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my smartphone. >> >> I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many more features.) It does a lot more advanced things you'd expect out of a desktop application. >> >> AmsatDroid Free handles my primary needs very well and therefore I use it regularly. It also is available at every radio amateur's favorite price. >> >> 73 >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> >>> On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: >>> Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good for manually >>> tracking a ham satellite and predicting upcoming passes? >>> >>> 73, David, ky7dr > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From david at rushtone.com Tue Aug 11 11:49:44 2015 From: david at rushtone.com (David Rush) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 05:49:44 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? In-Reply-To: <8a49dd2b-012a-4504-9062-551cb0cf28cf@email.android.com> References: <55C7DA94.2000406@rushtone.com> <55C92BB7.8040904@amsat.org> <55C95AB3.3040704@rushtone.com> <8a49dd2b-012a-4504-9062-551cb0cf28cf@email.android.com> Message-ID: <55C9E158.70102@rushtone.com> Aha! Thanks! It did seem odd that it didn't do real-time, but I hadn't tried that. 73, David, ky7dr On 2015-08-10 20:35, Greg Dolkas wrote: > Tap on one of the passes, and it will bring up an Az / El compass > showing the pass arc and where the bird is in real time. Aim your > antenna as indicated, and off you go. > > Greg. KO6TH > > > On August 10, 2015 7:15:15 PM PDT, David Rush wrote: > > I've got AmsatDroid Free, and it's fine for seeing upcoming passes and > has some other useful features, but it doesn't seem to provide real-time > information on where to point my antenna during a pass. It provides AOS > azimuth, max el, and LOS azimuth, but nothing real-time, unless I'm > missing something. > > I'll check out the other suggestions. > > Thanks. > > 73, David, ky7dr > > On 2015-08-10 16:54, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > > AmsatDroid Free is probably the most-utilized app on my > smartphone. I like PocketSat3 also but it's more complex (many > more features.) It does a lot more advanced things you'd > expect out of a desktop application. AmsatDroid Free handles > my primary needs very well and therefore I use it regularly. > It also is available at every radio amateur's favorite price. > 73 Clayton W5PFG On 8/9/2015 17:56, David Rush wrote: > > Can anybody recommend a specific Android app that's good > for manually tracking a ham satellite and predicting > upcoming passes? 73, David, ky7dr > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From edc2491 at cox.net Tue Aug 11 13:36:00 2015 From: edc2491 at cox.net (Ed Cunningham) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 06:36:00 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? Message-ID: <001d01d0d43a$a977b250$fc6716f0$@cox.net> I use "Heavens Above" on my Android phone, it is easy to use and gives me all the info I need. It also has a ground track with crosshairs, I use an Elk antenna on a camera tripod, I can hold the phone on the end of the antenna and move it around until I get the crosshairs on the satellite image. Check both this Heavens above and amsat droid free, I have both on my phone. 73, Ed N7EC From davidahaworth at icloud.com Tue Aug 11 14:16:55 2015 From: davidahaworth at icloud.com (David Haworth) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 07:16:55 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible satellite operation: an upcoming special event station/ham radio demos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36E1096C-DBC9-4B75-B9BF-DCA6D17237C4@icloud.com> Hi Philip > 6) Are there any satellites with easily decodable telemetry? Add FUNcube-1 to your list. PMO FUNcube-1 Telemetry Pass July 13, 2015 HD https://youtu.be/e46Wgmlf9aU PMO FUNcube-1 Satellite Equipment HD https://youtu.be/ffMsgOzIiQs PMO FUNcube-1 Satellite Software July 13, 2015 HD https://youtu.be/xyZNyT7viqM 73, Clear and dark skies without RFI, David Haworth, WA9ONY http://www.stargazing.net/david davidahaworth at icloud.com From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Tue Aug 11 14:22:43 2015 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (dave at g4dpz.me.uk) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:22:43 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible satellite operation: an upcoming special event station/ham radio demos In-Reply-To: <36E1096C-DBC9-4B75-B9BF-DCA6D17237C4@icloud.com> References: <36E1096C-DBC9-4B75-B9BF-DCA6D17237C4@icloud.com> Message-ID: <77135D4A-C3F7-4A9D-B287-F68F5F7B66C1@g4dpz.me.uk> The data from ground stations and decoded : http://warehouse.funcube.org.uk Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Aug 2015, at 15:16, David Haworth wrote: > > Hi Philip > >> 6) Are there any satellites with easily decodable telemetry? > > > Add FUNcube-1 to your list. > > PMO FUNcube-1 Telemetry Pass July 13, 2015 HD > https://youtu.be/e46Wgmlf9aU > > PMO FUNcube-1 Satellite Equipment HD > https://youtu.be/ffMsgOzIiQs > > PMO FUNcube-1 Satellite Software July 13, 2015 HD > https://youtu.be/xyZNyT7viqM > > > > 73, > Clear and dark skies without RFI, > David Haworth, WA9ONY > http://www.stargazing.net/david > davidahaworth at icloud.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From david at rushtone.com Tue Aug 11 15:00:06 2015 From: david at rushtone.com (David Rush) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:00:06 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? Summary. In-Reply-To: <001d01d0d43a$a977b250$fc6716f0$@cox.net> References: <001d01d0d43a$a977b250$fc6716f0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <55CA0DF6.40200@rushtone.com> Just to summarize the feedback I got: Amsat Droid Free: Got the most recommendations. Does the necessary basics needed for sat operation: pass predictions and real-time tracking data (if you know to tap on a prediction), one satellite at a time. Looks like this is my #1 choice. Has what I need without a bunch of extra stuff, and the price (free) is right. PocketSat3: I think I used a version of this back in my Palm Pilot days, and liked it. Looks very sophisticated and powerful, but with a learning curve. Not free (free version is fully functional except it won't save anything). Here are some others that were recommended but that I have not tried: Heavens Above ISS Detector (not just for ISS, despite the name) For the iDevice crowd, GoSatWatch was recommended. Thanks to all those that responded. 73, David, ky7dr From kq2rp.cw at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 15:23:24 2015 From: kq2rp.cw at gmail.com (Chris Del Plato KQ2RP) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:23:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? Message-ID: I regularly use AmsatDroid. HeavensAbove now has a very nice app that tracks radio sats as well as shows upcoming Iridium flares, ISS passes and nightly celestial events. SatelliteAR is another option. 73, Chris KQ2RP From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 16:43:44 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:43:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] UK Ham in the news contacted the ISS in October 2014? ! Message-ID: In his own words in this video [1] you can hear Adrian Lane, 2E0SDR, say he contacted the ISS "in October of last year." I think everyone thought this happened in the last few weeks, even AMSAT-UK who said he talked to Kjell Lindgren [2] who only just went into space last month. I was really excited thinking Kjell was going to be the next Doug Wheelock but now it seems this, at least, is not a sign of that. Why did this get all over the media *now* ? John Brier, KG4AKV, FM05, Raleigh, NC 1) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3186534/Radio-ham-contacts-International-Space-Station-GARDEN-SHED.html 2) http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/05/uk-radio-hams-iss-contact-in-the-press/ From tjschuessler at verizon.net Tue Aug 11 16:50:06 2015 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:50:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 crashing after downloading or switching to the nasa.all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002601d0d455$c6aefd90$540cf8b0$@net> I tried to close the "Satellite" dialog after I downloaded the nasa.all keps and I get an error message (In German of course). Will look closer later tonight. Maybe try and clear the keps out of the "Roaming\kepler" location and trying again, or just downloading them manually from AMSAT.org and adding it manually to the location. Any wisdom from the group? Google translate of error message is Access violation at address 0041baae in module 'satpc32.exe'. Read of address 00,000,008th. Help. 73, DE Tom, N5HYP From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 17:12:59 2015 From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:12:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommended satellite tracking app for Android? Summary. In-Reply-To: <55CA0DF6.40200@rushtone.com> References: <001d01d0d43a$a977b250$fc6716f0$@cox.net> <55CA0DF6.40200@rushtone.com> Message-ID: <55ca2d1c.c18d320a.71ba1.567f@mx.google.com> The January/February 2015 AMSAT Journal featured an article, "There's An App for That: Smart Phone Applications for Satellites" by Mark Johns, K0MDJ, which can be downloaded from the Satellite Related Software page at: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=1933 There are screenshots and a description of the apps in the article. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services From wa6ilt at charter.net Tue Aug 11 18:21:33 2015 From: wa6ilt at charter.net (wa6ilt) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:21:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamp sequencer sold In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55CA3D2D.3000709@charter.net> Thanks all who inquired. Dave Reinhart WA6ILT From kk5do at amsat.org Tue Aug 11 21:12:19 2015 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 16:12:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Awards Update Message-ID: <55CA6533.6060709@amsat.org> Here are our newest award recipients and quite a good batch we have this time. AMSAT Communication Achievement Award Steve Kristoff, AI9IN #565 Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #566 Carlton Noll, KA4H #567 (also a new member to AMSAT) ------ AMSAT Sexagesimal Award Frank Westphal, K6FW #169 Hector Luis Martinez Sis, CO6CBF #170 Carlton Noll, KA4H #171 ------ AMSAT Century Award Hector Luis Martinez Sis, CO6CBF #45 ------ AMSAT South Africa Communication Achievement Award Frank Westphal, K6FW #US193 Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #US194 Carlton Noll, KA4H #US195 73...bruce To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or http://www.amsatnet.com/awards.html Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes From jimki6wj at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 11 22:12:32 2015 From: jimki6wj at sbcglobal.net (James Brown) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 22:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FT 847/windows 10issue Message-ID: <974765489.1884326.1439331152432.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Upgraded windows 8.1 laptop to win 10? this weekend. HRD and N3FJP logging programs play ok? with FT847. SAT32? rotor plays ok but radio is showing? up and down link frequencies in reverse on FT 847.FO 29 example SAT32 says 435.850 in downlink box but the FT847 shows 145.959 in the left window for down link.changing track to reverse only last a few seconds then display reverts back. This condition cropped up after win 10 upgrade. Now for the confusing part. I still worked FO 29 stations even though the display said vhf lsb in the uplink? SO whats happening, or any ideas on what I need to do to correct this issue? Thanks Jim KI6WJ From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 12 01:04:38 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 21:04:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 73 on 73 Award #27 - NX9B Message-ID: Good afternoon, Congratulations to Jeff Lamb, NX9B, for working 73 different stations on AO-73 since September 1, 2014 and becoming the 27th recipient of the 73 on 73 Award. For more information on the award see http://amsat-uk.org/funcube/73-on-73-award/ 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 13 11:40:06 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 07:40:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Awards Update In-Reply-To: <55CA6533.6060709@amsat.org> References: <55CA6533.6060709@amsat.org> Message-ID: Congratulations to all the award recipients! I'd like to point out a couple of them. First, congrats to Hector on the Century Award. The Century Award is tough enough to complete from the East Coast of the United States, but Hector managed to complete it from Cuba. He made many of these QSOs with homebrew equipment and had the additional handicap of not being able to use AO-7's Mode B transponder due to Cuban regulations, so he had to wait until FO-29 was near apogee on the right passes to make his longest distance QSOs. Second, congratulations to Carl on the Sexagesimal Award. Like me, he has operated solely with portable equipment and low power and he appears to be on the way to beating my pace to the Century Award (it took me 23 months from when I started getting on the air daily, Carl has been on for only about a year). 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Bruce wrote: > Here are our newest award recipients and quite a good batch we have this > time. > > AMSAT Communication Achievement Award > > Steve Kristoff, AI9IN #565 > Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #566 > Carlton Noll, KA4H #567 (also a new member to AMSAT) > > ------ > AMSAT Sexagesimal Award > > Frank Westphal, K6FW #169 > Hector Luis Martinez Sis, CO6CBF #170 > Carlton Noll, KA4H #171 > > ------ > AMSAT Century Award > > Hector Luis Martinez Sis, CO6CBF #45 > > ------ > AMSAT South Africa Communication Achievement Award > > Frank Westphal, K6FW #US193 > Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #US194 > Carlton Noll, KA4H #US195 > > > 73...bruce > > > To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or > http://www.amsatnet.com/awards.html > > > Bruce Paige, KK5DO > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards > > > ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* > Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com > Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kf5yxv at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 15:29:58 2015 From: kf5yxv at gmail.com (Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:29:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Awards Update In-Reply-To: References: <55CA6533.6060709@amsat.org> Message-ID: Thanks Paul! Actually, the AMSAT Century Award has been the hardest award in my amateur radio career. The lack of AO-7 mode B made it even harder. Thanks very much to all the operators who made it possible and special thanks to the DX stations that accepted the challenge of an extreme QSO. 73! Hector, CO6CBF/W5CBF On Aug 13, 2015 6:40 AM, "Paul Stoetzer" wrote: > Congratulations to all the award recipients! > > I'd like to point out a couple of them. First, congrats to Hector on > the Century Award. The Century Award is tough enough to complete from > the East Coast of the United States, but Hector managed to complete it > from Cuba. He made many of these QSOs with homebrew equipment and had > the additional handicap of not being able to use AO-7's Mode B > transponder due to Cuban regulations, so he had to wait until FO-29 > was near apogee on the right passes to make his longest distance QSOs. > > Second, congratulations to Carl on the Sexagesimal Award. Like me, he > has operated solely with portable equipment and low power and he > appears to be on the way to beating my pace to the Century Award (it > took me 23 months from when I started getting on the air daily, Carl > has been on for only about a year). > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Bruce wrote: > > Here are our newest award recipients and quite a good batch we have this > > time. > > > > AMSAT Communication Achievement Award > > > > Steve Kristoff, AI9IN #565 > > Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #566 > > Carlton Noll, KA4H #567 (also a new member to AMSAT) > > > > ------ > > AMSAT Sexagesimal Award > > > > Frank Westphal, K6FW #169 > > Hector Luis Martinez Sis, CO6CBF #170 > > Carlton Noll, KA4H #171 > > > > ------ > > AMSAT Century Award > > > > Hector Luis Martinez Sis, CO6CBF #45 > > > > ------ > > AMSAT South Africa Communication Achievement Award > > > > Frank Westphal, K6FW #US193 > > Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #US194 > > Carlton Noll, KA4H #US195 > > > > > > 73...bruce > > > > > > To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or > > http://www.amsatnet.com/awards.html > > > > > > Bruce Paige, KK5DO > > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards > > > > > > ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE > > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* > > Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com > > Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 15:46:59 2015 From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com (Thomas Doyle) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:46:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Raspberry Pi - LVB Tracker - G5500 Message-ID: http://www.tomdoyle.org/netserver 73 W9KE Tom Doyle From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 13 16:42:35 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT / TAPR Banquet speaker at CCC Message-ID: <1231771849.4309450.1439484155700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The lectures at the Chaos Computer Camp, taking place August 13-17 in Mildenberg, Germany, are being streamed live to the web. Several are radio related. Among the attendees is radio amateur Michael Ossmann, AD0NR, who was guest speaker at the 2015 Dayton Hamvention AMSAT / TAPR banquet. The badge issued to Chaos Computer Camp attendees is a full-featured 50-4000 MHz SDR Transceiver. Watch the talk about the Rad1o badge at 21:15 CET (19:15 GMT) on Friday, August 13. See?http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/13/michael-ossmann-chaos-computer-camp/ Badge https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/Fahrplan/events/6884.html 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 13 16:48:29 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Small Satellites WRC Agenda Item discussed by CEPT Message-ID: <1171861860.4300630.1439484509370.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The CEPT CPG-PTA-8 meeting in Catania, Sicily, July 21-24, discussed a number of issues related to WRC among them a paper submitted by The Netherlands ? Small satellites: further aspects for the development of a future agenda item. http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/12/small-satellites-future-wrc-agenda-item/ SUWS WebSDR supports Meteor Scatter enthusiasts http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/13/websdr-supports-meteor-scatter/ Radio Astronomy Group Meteor Scatter Workshop http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/11/rag-meteor-scatter-workshop/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 13 16:55:54 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT / TAPR Banquet speaker at CCC In-Reply-To: <1231771849.4309450.1439484155700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1231771849.4309450.1439484155700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480148668.4255075.1439484954212.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Typo, that was of course Thursday, Aug 13 On Thursday, 13 August 2015, 17:42, M5AKA wrote: The lectures at the Chaos Computer Camp, taking place August 13-17 in Mildenberg, Germany, are being streamed live to the web. Several are radio related. Among the attendees is radio amateur Michael Ossmann, AD0NR, who was guest speaker at the 2015 Dayton Hamvention AMSAT / TAPR banquet. The badge issued to Chaos Computer Camp attendees is a full-featured 50-4000 MHz SDR Transceiver. Watch the talk about the Rad1o badge at 21:15 CET (19:15 GMT) on Thursday, August 13. See?http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/13/michael-ossmann-chaos-computer-camp/ Badge https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/Fahrplan/events/6884.html 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From GW1FKY at aol.com Fri Aug 14 07:58:54 2015 From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 03:58:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Lighthouse Weekend Amateur Satellite Activation Message-ID: <3f7cf.26664820.42fef9be@aol.com> Will be operating both club call and personal calls from "NASH POINT " Lighthouse - Bristol Channel, South Wales UK - Saturday /Sunday 15th 16th August. Sorry it will be daytime operation only - HF bands and satellites. ( Grid Sqaure:IO81FJ ) (WAB: SS96 ) They are Twin lighthouses - Low and High thus two options for a contact /QSL. Regards and sorry for the late news. Our club was only given the option at a late stage. Ken Eaton GW1FKY From gwhink41 at msn.com Fri Aug 14 00:32:14 2015 From: gwhink41 at msn.com (george hinkle) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 19:32:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] spid rotors In-Reply-To: <55C3A785.3080607@xplornet.com> References: <55C3A785.3080607@xplornet.com> Message-ID: All is working well for the first day out. Thanks to John. The manual in some areas is just a little lacking. I wish to thank ever one who offered a helping had and I'm still not done. So I may be asking more questions. I have to trick it out for my to way operate. That should not be much of a problem. Again thanks to all. george wi9i On Aug 6, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Doug Holmes wrote: > > Hello George, > Thanks for your note. A neighbour of mine, Dave, VE3SAT called and was inquiring about the setting of AlfaSpid rotators. He did mention that yours was not indicating the proper direction during use. > > I have no experience using the rotators for satellite work, but I should not think it would be different from normal azimuth only usage. > > To calibrate the azimuth rotator, one must rotate the beam to north and visually confirm that the beam is indeed pointing north, no matter what the readout indicates. Then, turn the control box power to OFF. When turning the power back ON for the rotator controller, it is possible to accurately set NORTH by turning on power all the while holding the FUNCTION [F] button depressed. The readout should then indicate "000 degrees", and tracking should then occur properly. From there it is possible to rotate clockwise up to 180 degrees, and also it is possible to rotate counter-clockwise up to 180 degrees from the North setting. One has to be careful, however, because over-rotation beyond the 180 degrees either direction can occur. > > Alternatively, an operator may choose a "SOUTH" centered functioning of the rotator, in a similar manner as above. > > I hope this has answered the concern that you have. > > For additional information and assistance, you may contact Mitch at Alfa Radio, in Edmonton, Alberta. The business telephone there is 780-466-5779. > > kind regards, Doug, VE3VS > > > > > On 8/6/2015 1:48 PM, george hinkle wrote: >> Doug, >> I posted my need on Amsat BB's and received a phone call telling me you would be the man that could direct me with my new rotors. My current situation: Running Yeasu rotors with Satpc32. They work to perfection. Why get new rotors? I use them every day and they are running day and night. I don't think for the long term something better would meet my need. >> I got the RAEL, RAK and Rot2Prog controller interface new. >> At this point I'm using 12 volt power supply. Software is SatPc32 with the "Yeasu 232" software. >> The software and the controller seem to work fine. >> The rotors do not track to the location indicated. >> If you have some time to talk me through I would be very grateful. I am retired so most times are good for me. >> george wi9i >> >> email gwhink41 at msn.com >> >> ph 217 753 4457 >> > > > -- > Always reply to drholmes at xplornet.com > I do not receive via gmail > From richard.siff at verizon.net Fri Aug 14 10:39:45 2015 From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 06:39:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Project In-Reply-To: References: <55C3A785.3080607@xplornet.com> Message-ID: <79ED28485AEC4ED7AF6CC19CFC4AD9CA@BanjoPC> THe K4AMG Memorial Amateur Radio Club, Inc. has voted to donate to this project. How about you and your club. God Bless R W4BUE Pres: K4AMG.org Plans are under way to develop a new, higher-power Amateur Radio station for the ISS Columbus module. The current radio is a lower-power unit that sometimes results in weak signals during ISS-to-Earth educational contacts. A new radio system will improve communication capability for students scheduled to participate in ARISS educational contacts and related activities. The new system also would allow greater interoperability between the Columbus module and the Russian Service Module. ARISS said that integration of the equipment into the ISS infrastructure and the necessary testing and certification require hours of engineering resources that it cannot afford. "Each ARISS contact offers the opportunity to inspire young people through ARISS's unique window into space exploration activities, opening the horizon of possibilities of a career in a STEM field," said ARRL Education Services Manager, Debra Johnson, K1DMJ. "Each contact also introduces students and their communities to Amateur Radio. The program needs your help to secure these opportunities for the future." Individuals may donate to ARISS online via the AMSAT website (select the "ARISS Donate" button). AMSAT is contributing the necessary personnel resources to handle gifts to ARISS. Individuals contributing $100 or more will receive the new ARISS Challenge Coin. Corporate donors should contact Frank Bauer. -- Thanks to AMSAT News Service, ARISS, and Debra Johnson, K1DMJ From wouterweg at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 11:50:43 2015 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:50:43 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 Message-ID: Hi All, The AMSAT-NL transponder on EO-79 will be activated to support the International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend (ILLW). We apologize for the short notice, this opportunity came along very last minute, and again we took it. QB50p1 (EO-79) carries the FUNcube-3 400 mW inverting linear 435/145 MHz transponder provided by AMSAT-NL with support from AMSAT-UK. - *Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB - *Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB TLEs are NORAD # 40025, COSPAR designator 2014-033-R Remember that the FUNcube family of transponders do not need much power to work them. I will be operating at Scheveningen Lighthouse PA25SCH, NL0025 Thanks to the Von Karman Institute and Innovative Solution In Space for the opportunity to use the transponder. Have FUN over the weekend! Wouter PA3WEG AMSAT-NL From PeteW2JV at verizon.net Fri Aug 14 13:41:46 2015 From: PeteW2JV at verizon.net (W2JV) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:41:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] LIGHTHOUSE/LIGHTSHIP WEEKEND- FIRE ISLAND LIGHTHOUSE - FN30KP/ NA-026 ACTIVATED Message-ID: <761E8CC29CA54A51B8EB6AE7EA1794CA@PeterPC> Hello, W2JV, Peter will be active from the Fire Island Lighthouse- FN30KP from 1400 U to 2100 U Saturday and Sunday celebrating Lighthouse/ Lightship weekend. The call will be W2GSB/LH and will be on all Amateur Satellites including EO-79. If you would like a commemorative QSL card please SASE to my QRZ QTH, and more information is available on my QRZ page, thank you. 73 Peter W2JV From jimlist at zoho.com Fri Aug 14 20:17:48 2015 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:17:48 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 operations In-Reply-To: <55C5C51F.8020804@zoho.com> References: <37BDC8A892C1465E8495B3B9AEAD7561@allgood.local> <55B228F4.3030002@zoho.com> <55C098A0.9070505@zoho.com> <55C5C51F.8020804@zoho.com> Message-ID: <55CE4CEC.9000604@zoho.com> Hi Folks, I have just switched FUNcube-1 into continuous transponder mode at approx 2013 UTC. As usual plan is to switch back to auto mode on Sunday pm (UTC) Have FUN! 73s Jim G3WGM From fabianomoser at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 10:23:08 2015 From: fabianomoser at gmail.com (Fabiano Moser) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:23:08 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Can you tell when the SAT will be turn ON? No copy right now over Portugal. Thank you, Best 73 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: > Hi All, > > The AMSAT-NL transponder on EO-79 will be activated to support the > International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend (ILLW). > > We apologize for the short notice, this opportunity came along very last > minute, and again we took it. > > QB50p1 (EO-79) carries the FUNcube-3 400 mW inverting linear 435/145 MHz > transponder provided by AMSAT-NL with support from AMSAT-UK. > > - *Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB > - *Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB > > TLEs are NORAD # 40025, COSPAR designator 2014-033-R > > Remember that the FUNcube family of transponders do not need much power to > work them. > > I will be operating at Scheveningen Lighthouse PA25SCH, NL0025 > > Thanks to the Von Karman Institute and Innovative Solution In Space for the > opportunity to use the transponder. > > Have FUN over the weekend! > > > Wouter PA3WEG > > AMSAT-NL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From g.shirville at btinternet.com Sat Aug 15 10:28:13 2015 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:28:13 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Fabiano, I am not directly involved with the operations this weekend, but I understand that the VKI command station was planning to enable the transponder on this last pass so if you are not hearing it then maybe they have some technical problems. Thanks for your understanding 73 Graham G3VZV -----Original Message----- From: Fabiano Moser Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:23 AM To: AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 Hello, Can you tell when the SAT will be turn ON? No copy right now over Portugal. Thank you, Best 73 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: > Hi All, > > The AMSAT-NL transponder on EO-79 will be activated to support the > International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend (ILLW). > > We apologize for the short notice, this opportunity came along very last > minute, and again we took it. > > QB50p1 (EO-79) carries the FUNcube-3 400 mW inverting linear 435/145 MHz > transponder provided by AMSAT-NL with support from AMSAT-UK. > > - *Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB > - *Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB > > TLEs are NORAD # 40025, COSPAR designator 2014-033-R > > Remember that the FUNcube family of transponders do not need much power to > work them. > > I will be operating at Scheveningen Lighthouse PA25SCH, NL0025 > > Thanks to the Von Karman Institute and Innovative Solution In Space for > the > opportunity to use the transponder. > > Have FUN over the weekend! > > > Wouter PA3WEG > > AMSAT-NL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From daniel at destevez.net Sat Aug 15 10:43:39 2015 From: daniel at destevez.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Est=c3=a9vez?=) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:43:39 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55CF17DB.3050903@destevez.net> Hi, Here in Spain, 10:15 UTC pass, strong copy of the beacon, but transponder not heard. I tried to get through the transponder with 5W and an arrow antenna. 73, Dani EA4GPZ. El 15/08/15 a las 12:28, Graham Shirville escribi?: > Hi Fabiano, > > I am not directly involved with the operations this weekend, but I > understand that the VKI command station was planning to enable the > transponder on this last pass so if you are not hearing it then maybe > they have some technical problems. > > Thanks for your understanding > > 73 > > Graham > G3VZV > > -----Original Message----- From: Fabiano Moser > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:23 AM > To: AMSAT-BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 > > Hello, > > Can you tell when the SAT will be turn ON? > No copy right now over Portugal. > > Thank you, > Best 73 > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wouter Weggelaar > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> The AMSAT-NL transponder on EO-79 will be activated to support the >> International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend (ILLW). >> >> We apologize for the short notice, this opportunity came along very last >> minute, and again we took it. >> >> QB50p1 (EO-79) carries the FUNcube-3 400 mW inverting linear 435/145 MHz >> transponder provided by AMSAT-NL with support from AMSAT-UK. >> >> - *Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB >> - *Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB >> >> TLEs are NORAD # 40025, COSPAR designator 2014-033-R >> >> Remember that the FUNcube family of transponders do not need much >> power to >> work them. >> >> I will be operating at Scheveningen Lighthouse PA25SCH, NL0025 >> >> Thanks to the Von Karman Institute and Innovative Solution In Space >> for the >> opportunity to use the transponder. >> >> Have FUN over the weekend! >> >> >> Wouter PA3WEG >> >> AMSAT-NL >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From fabianomoser at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 13:37:53 2015 From: fabianomoser at gmail.com (Fabiano Moser) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:37:53 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Graham, Thank you for the information, I also heard from "birds" that they had issues to turn ON the transponder this morning, but I prefer to wait for official news. Really hope that the helth os SAT is 100% okay. Best 73 Fabiano Moser CT7ABD On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Graham Shirville < g.shirville at btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Fabiano, > > I am not directly involved with the operations this weekend, but I > understand that the VKI command station was planning to enable the > transponder on this last pass so if you are not hearing it then maybe they > have some technical problems. > > Thanks for your understanding > > 73 > > Graham > G3VZV > > -----Original Message----- From: Fabiano Moser > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:23 AM > To: AMSAT-BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 > > > Hello, > > Can you tell when the SAT will be turn ON? > No copy right now over Portugal. > > Thank you, > Best 73 > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wouter Weggelaar > wrote: > > Hi All, >> >> The AMSAT-NL transponder on EO-79 will be activated to support the >> International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend (ILLW). >> >> We apologize for the short notice, this opportunity came along very last >> minute, and again we took it. >> >> QB50p1 (EO-79) carries the FUNcube-3 400 mW inverting linear 435/145 MHz >> transponder provided by AMSAT-NL with support from AMSAT-UK. >> >> - *Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB >> - *Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB >> >> TLEs are NORAD # 40025, COSPAR designator 2014-033-R >> >> Remember that the FUNcube family of transponders do not need much power to >> work them. >> >> I will be operating at Scheveningen Lighthouse PA25SCH, NL0025 >> >> Thanks to the Von Karman Institute and Innovative Solution In Space for >> the >> opportunity to use the transponder. >> >> Have FUN over the weekend! >> >> >> Wouter PA3WEG >> >> AMSAT-NL >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Aug 15 15:06:25 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:06:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <084901d0d76b$f498ee00$ddcaca00$@com> Nothing heard from the transponder at 1505Z in EL88. 1200 baud BPSK was active. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Graham Shirville Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 6:28 AM To: Fabiano Moser; AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 Hi Fabiano, I am not directly involved with the operations this weekend, but I understand that the VKI command station was planning to enable the transponder on this last pass so if you are not hearing it then maybe they have some technical problems. Thanks for your understanding 73 Graham G3VZV -----Original Message----- From: Fabiano Moser Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:23 AM To: AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 Hello, Can you tell when the SAT will be turn ON? No copy right now over Portugal. Thank you, Best 73 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: > Hi All, > > The AMSAT-NL transponder on EO-79 will be activated to support the > International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend (ILLW). > > We apologize for the short notice, this opportunity came along very > last minute, and again we took it. > > QB50p1 (EO-79) carries the FUNcube-3 400 mW inverting linear 435/145 > MHz transponder provided by AMSAT-NL with support from AMSAT-UK. > > - *Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB > - *Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB > > TLEs are NORAD # 40025, COSPAR designator 2014-033-R > > Remember that the FUNcube family of transponders do not need much > power to work them. > > I will be operating at Scheveningen Lighthouse PA25SCH, NL0025 > > Thanks to the Von Karman Institute and Innovative Solution In Space > for the opportunity to use the transponder. > > Have FUN over the weekend! > > > Wouter PA3WEG > > AMSAT-NL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mikesprenger at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 15:42:43 2015 From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:42:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: <084901d0d76b$f498ee00$ddcaca00$@com> References: <084901d0d76b$f498ee00$ddcaca00$@com> Message-ID: Nice work, I love that were trying to be "agile" for the weekend in hopes of amateur contacts being made on the satellites. May not all work out, but it's great that were trying !!! Press on folks, Press on. (If I only had time today to try myself, oh well) 73 Mike W4UOO On Saturday, August 15, 2015, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > Nothing heard from the transponder at 1505Z in EL88. 1200 baud BPSK was > active. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org ] On > Behalf Of Graham > Shirville > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 6:28 AM > To: Fabiano Moser; AMSAT-BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 > > Hi Fabiano, > > I am not directly involved with the operations this weekend, but I > understand that the VKI command station was planning to enable the > transponder on this last pass so if you are not hearing it then maybe they > have some technical problems. > > Thanks for your understanding > > 73 > > Graham > G3VZV > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabiano Moser > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:23 AM > To: AMSAT-BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 > > Hello, > > Can you tell when the SAT will be turn ON? > No copy right now over Portugal. > > Thank you, > Best 73 > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wouter Weggelaar > > wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > The AMSAT-NL transponder on EO-79 will be activated to support the > > International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend (ILLW). > > > > We apologize for the short notice, this opportunity came along very > > last minute, and again we took it. > > > > QB50p1 (EO-79) carries the FUNcube-3 400 mW inverting linear 435/145 > > MHz transponder provided by AMSAT-NL with support from AMSAT-UK. > > > > - *Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB > > - *Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB > > > > TLEs are NORAD # 40025, COSPAR designator 2014-033-R > > > > Remember that the FUNcube family of transponders do not need much > > power to work them. > > > > I will be operating at Scheveningen Lighthouse PA25SCH, NL0025 > > > > Thanks to the Von Karman Institute and Innovative Solution In Space > > for the opportunity to use the transponder. > > > > Have FUN over the weekend! > > > > > > Wouter PA3WEG > > > > AMSAT-NL > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Thanks, Mike Sprenger (37.9167N 81.1244W is the Summit) From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun Aug 16 01:46:52 2015 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 21:46:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-228 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-228 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * ARISS-I Delegates Meet This Week in Tokyo * Activation of Transponder on EO-79 August * Plans for New Amateur Radio Station for ISS Columbus Module * South Texas Balloon Launch to Fly Amateur Radio Payload * AMSAT Awards Update * Jeff Lamb NX9B Earns 73 0n 73 Award * Small Satellites: Possible Future WRC Agenda Item * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-228.01 ANS-228 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 228.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. August 16, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-228.01 ARISS-I Delegates Meet This Week in Tokyo ARISS International Delegates, its Board of Officers, and international team members will meet at Big Sight, Tokyo, Japan on August 20-23, 2015 for a critical meeting to discuss ARISS strategy, teamwork, hardware and operations. Delegates are voting members of ARISS-I representating the 5 ISS member regions: United States, Russia, Japan, Canada and Europe. The meeting will open with remarks from meeting host Keigo Komuro, JA1KAB from ARISS Japan and JARL. Other agenda items will include: * Welcome by the Japanese Space Agency JAXA & an Overview of the JAXA Innovative Satellite Technology Demonstration Program * ARISS working group business discussions and reports, including: regional reports, ARISS Terms of Reference update, space agency coordination status, sustainability & fundraising and ARISS future endeavors * Technical discussions on current and future hardware developments, including: Next Generation ARISS Radio Systems, the Astro-Pi Project, and an update on the Ham-TV system * Operations discussions, including presentations on: Educational Activities, International Expansion & Planning of SSTV. School Selection and Regional Scheduling Procedures and plans for the upcoming Tim Peake Mission Along with their ambitious schedule the delegates will begin each day with an opportunity for informal discussions and will have the opportunity to visit the Tsukuba Space Center. [ANS thanks ARISS-I for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Activation of Transponder on EO-79 August The AMSAT-NL transponder on EO-79 will be activated to support the International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend (ILLW). We apologize for the short notice, this opportunity came along very last minute, and again we took it. QB50p1 (EO-79) carries the FUNcube-3 400 mW inverting linear 435/145 MHz transponder provided by AMSAT-NL with support from AMSAT-UK. - *Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB - *Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB TLEs are NORAD # 40025, COSPAR designator 2014-033-R Remember that the FUNcube family of transponders do not need much power to work them. I will be operating at Scheveningen Lighthouse PA25SCH, NL0025 Thanks to the Von Karman Institute and Innovative Solution In Space for the opportunity to use the transponder. Have FUN over the weekend! In related news Peter Portanova, W2JV, announced that he will be active from the Fire Island Lighthouse- FN30KP from 1400 U to 2100 U Saturday and Sunday celebrating Lighthouse/ Lightship weekend. The call will be W2GSB/LH and will be on all Amateur Satellites including EO-79. If you would like a commemorative QSL card please SASE to my QRZ QTH, and more information is available on my QRZ page, thank you. [ANS Thanks Wouter PA3WEG and Peter W2JV for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Plans for New Amateur Radio Station for ISS Columbus Module Plans are under way to develop a new, higher-power Amateur Radio station for the ISS Columbus module. The current radio is a lower- power unit that sometimes results in weak signals during ISS-to-Earth educational contacts. A new radio system will improve communication capability for students scheduled to participate in ARISS educational contacts and related activities. The new system also would allow greater interoperability between the Columbus module and the Russian Service Module. ARISS said that integration of the equipment into the ISS infrastructure and the necessary testing and certification require hours of engineering resources that it cannot afford. "Each ARISS contact offers the opportunity to inspire young people through ARISS's unique window into space exploration activities, opening the horizon of possibilities of a career in a STEM field," said ARRL Education Services Manager, Debra Johnson, K1DMJ. "Each contact also introduces students and their communities to Amateur Radio. The program needs your help to secure these opportunities for the future." Individuals may donate to ARISS online via the AMSAT website (select the "ARISS Donate" button). AMSAT is contributing the necessary personnel resources to handle gifts to ARISS. Individuals contributing $100 or more will receive the new ARISS Challenge Coin. Corporate donors should contact Frank Bauer. [ANS thanks AMSAT News Service, ARISS, and Debra Johnson, K1DMJ for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- South Texas Balloon Launch to Fly Amateur Radio Payload South Texas Balloon Launch Team announced their next flight via their BLT-42 balloon and payload is scheduled for August 22, 2015 at 10:00 Central Daylight Time (UTC-5). The launch site will be from the Wharton Intergalactic Spaceport, Wharton, TX (Coords: 29.2543, -96.1544 Grid: EL19WG). The flight payload includes: + Live DTV-B Color ATV = 434 Digital TV 0.3W + Crossband FM Repeater Up 147.435 Down 446.000 + Digital Camera with a picture every 15 seconds + Balloon Burst Cam Recorder + APRS Coconut v1.2 - AB5SS-11 - 144.390 MHz + APRS GPS Downlink = 144.390 W5ACM-9 250 mW + TWO GoPro Cameras for HD Recording with Micro Cam Recorder pointing down + New Surface Mount Fireball - 28.322 MHz 50.000 MHz - 50 mW + Austin Experiments - Raspberry Pi w/TP-Link WiFi Omni Antenna + Dallas Experiments KE5GDB - SSTV System - 144.5 MHz FM - 0.5 W Website:http://www.w5acm.net/ APRS.FI: AB5SS-11, W5ACM-9 Telemetry: APRS: 144.390Mhz, Contact: John Maca ab5ss at swbell.net QRZ: AB5SS Check http://www.w5acm.net/b42.html or contact Andy MacAllister, w5acm at amsat.org for the latest flight/payload information. [ANS thanks the BALLOON_SKED at yahoogroups.com e-mail list for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Awards Update Here are our newest award recipients and quite a good batch we have this time. AMSAT Communication Achievement Award Steve Kristoff, AI9IN #565 Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #566 Carlton Noll, KA4H #567 (also a new member to AMSAT) ------ AMSAT Sexagesimal Award Frank Westphal, K6FW #169 Hector Luis Martinez Sis, CO6CBF #170 Carlton Noll, KA4H #171 ------ AMSAT Century Award Hector Luis Martinez Sis, CO6CBF #45 ------ AMSAT South Africa Communication Achievement Award Frank Westphal, K6FW #US193 Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #US194 Carlton Noll, KA4H #US195 [ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Lamb NX9B Earns 73 0n 73 Award Congratulations to Jeff Lamb, NX9B, for working 73 different stations on AO-73 since September 1, 2014 and becoming the 27th recipient of the 73 on 73 Award. [ANS thanks Paul N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Small Satellites: Possible Future WRC Agenda Item The CEPT CPG-PTA-8 meeting in Catania, Sicily, July 21-24, discussed a number of issues related to WRC-15 among them a paper submitted by The Netherlands ? Small satellites: further aspects for the development of a future agenda item. The paper?s summary says: Following proposals from 12 CEPT members, WRC12 decided to place the subject of nanosatellites and picosatellites on the WRC19 agenda for adoption at WRC15. Since then a growing number of small satellites, launched year on year has been recorded, and a growing number of diverse applications has been implemented ranging from technology demonstration and research to Earth observation. The applications of these small satellites vary widely, but all of these satellites have one common need which is Telemetry, Tracking and Command (TT&C). Providing for proper TT&C will allow positive satellite control at all times, and, when combined with ranging capability, may provide for orbit determination as well which in turn can aid in the tracking of space objects. At this moment, the study work under the related agenda item 9, issue 9.1.8 which deals with regulatory aspects for nanosatellites and picosatellites is finished. The studies have indicated a number of difficulties in the application of the Radio Regulations. These difficulties, however, do not justify a change of Articles 9 and 11. Considering that most bands currently used for satellite telemetry and command such as the 2200-2290MHz SRS/SOS/EESS allocation are heavily crowded, the growth in numbers of small satellites launched offers new challenges which were not faced before. Therefore, the proposal for AI 10 is to invite ITU-R in the forthcoming study period to identify additional allocations to the space operation service (SOS) within the 137MHz-960MHz range. This frequency range is particularly suitable for small satellites since it offers favourable propagation characteristics while allowing moderately complex antenna systems and antenna pointing requirements on board the satellite. CPG-PTA-8 meeting in Catania, Sicily, July 21-24, 2015 http://tinyurl.com/ANS228-WRC To download the meeting documents: ? Go to http://tinyurl.com/ANS228-Documents ? Click on 2015 ? Click on 8th CPG PTA Meeting ? 21-24 July ? Sicily ? Click Input Contributions and Goto table ? Tick documents ? Click on Minutes and Annexes and Goto table ? Tick documents ? Do same for Annex IV ? Draft Briefs, Annex V ? Draft ECPs, Annex VI ? misc ? Click the Download selected button [ANS thanks Trevor M5AKA and AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News + A Successful contact was made between Space Jam 9, Rantoul, Illinois, USA and Astronaut Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS using Callsign OR4ISS. The contact began 2015-08-08 16:58 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was telebridge via IK1SLD. ARISS Mentor was AJ9N. + A Successful contact was made between Fleurance Astronomy Festival, France and Astronaut Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF using Callsign RS?ISS. The contact began 2015-08-14 19:42:00 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was telebridge via IK1SLD. ARISS Mentor was F6ICS. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-08-13 16:00 UTC Higashioka Elementary School, Toyonaka, Osaka, Japan, direct via 8N3HO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kimiya Yui KG5BPH Contact is a go for: Tue 2015-08-18 11:42:14 UTC 82 deg Pima County 4H/Vail Vaqueros 4H Club, Tucson, AZ, direct via W7LB The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS Contact is a go for: Sat 2015-08-22 18:37:55 UTC 87 deg Sochi, Russia, direct via TBD) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF) Contact is a go for 2015-08-29 11:15 UTC * Watch for the official announcements for when US schools will be able to send in proposals for an ARISS contact. The window will be open from 2015-09-01 to 2015-11-01. These proposals will be for school contacts during the second half of 2016. [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + AMSAT Award Comments Paul Stoetzer N8HM congratulates all those who earned the AMSAT Awards, mentioned in the rticle above. Paul says, "I'd like to point out a couple of them. First, congrats to Hector on the Century Award. The Century Award is tough enough to complete from the East Coast of the United States, but Hector managed to complete it from Cuba. He made many of these QSOs with homebrew equipment and had the additional handicap of not being able to use AO- 7's Mode B transponder due to Cuban regulations, so he had to wait until FO-29 was near apogee on the right passes to make his longest distance QSOs. Second, congratulations to Carl on the Sexagesimal Award. Like me, he has operated solely with portable equipment and low power and he appears to be on the way to beating my pace to the Century Award (it took me 23 months from when I started getting on the air daily, Carl has been on for only about a year)." Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF, responded, "Actually, the AMSAT Century Award has been the hardest award in my amateur radio career. The lack of AO- 7 mode B made it even harder. Thanks very much to all the operators who made it possible and special thanks to the DX stations that accepted the challenge of an extreme QSO." [ANS thanks Paul N8HM and Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF for the above information] + UK Ham's ISS Contact Gathers No Moss There?s been a lot of coverage in mainstream media of the ham in England who made contact with astronauts aboard the ISS last month. This bit in Time is the latest, and possibly most mainstream. http://time.com/3995908/international-space-station-radio/ [ANS thanks Sean KX9X for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, KC8YLD kc8yld at amsat dot org From kk5do at arrl.net Sun Aug 16 05:18:54 2015 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:18:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Awards Correction Message-ID: <55D01D3E.6050007@arrl.net> I made a mistake looking at my file. This weeks ANS bulletin should have listed the AMSAT Satellite Communications awards as follows. Steve Kristoff, AI9IN #564 Frank Westphal, K6FW #565 Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #566 Carlton Noll, KA4H #567 (also a new member to AMSAT) -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Sun Aug 16 10:57:19 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 06:57:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] is Funcube Data Warehouse functional anymore? Message-ID: <55D06C8F.1060309@denstarfarm.us> I noticed for quite some time that when I know watch a current pass that later on the Funcube warehouse.funcube.org.uk never ever adjusts my uploaded "count" . The "Dashboard" program from them has a check-mark in the stream data to warehouse box. I tried this question on the Funcube sponsored Forum, to no avail Then I noticed that other guys have asked the same question. Those guys as well as myself never received a single reply. I I have a Funcube registration account which they have lost or deleted then how would I ever know that? There is seemingly no link to write to them. I only can conclude that it is a waste of time for me to have a dedicated program and radio gear using the Capturing program since it seems Funcube isn't looking at uploaded data. So I m guessing I have something configured incorrectly? What other choices are there ? 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Sun Aug 16 11:01:11 2015 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David A B Johnson) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:01:11 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] is Funcube Data Warehouse functional anymore? In-Reply-To: <55D06C8F.1060309@denstarfarm.us> References: <55D06C8F.1060309@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <55D06D77.5060708@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi Bob, Yes, the warehouse is active. I will take a look at the logs and see if there is a problem with your uploads. I will respond offline if there is a problem with the credentials you are using. 73 Dave, G4DPZ FUNcube Team Member On 16/08/2015 11:57, Bob KD7YZ wrote: > I noticed for quite some time that when I know watch a current pass that > later on the Funcube warehouse.funcube.org.uk never ever adjusts my > uploaded "count" . > > The "Dashboard" program from them has a check-mark in the stream data to > warehouse box. > > I tried this question on the Funcube sponsored Forum, to no avail Then I > noticed that other guys have asked the same question. Those guys as well > as myself never received a single reply. > > I I have a Funcube registration account which they have lost or deleted > then how would I ever know that? There is seemingly no link to write to > them. > > I only can conclude that it is a waste of time for me to have a > dedicated program and radio gear using the Capturing program since it > seems Funcube isn't looking at uploaded data. > > So I m guessing I have something configured incorrectly? What other > choices are there ? > > 73, From FraserBonnett at verizon.net Sun Aug 16 15:41:23 2015 From: FraserBonnett at verizon.net (Fraser Bonnett) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:41:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 Message-ID: <000001d0d83a$0189b850$049d28f0$@verizon.net> On a 60 degree pass at 15:20 UTC (Aug 16) I did manage to hear myself briefly. No contacts or other's heard though. Fraser, W3UTD --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Aug 16 15:53:06 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:53:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: <000001d0d83a$0189b850$049d28f0$@verizon.net> References: <000001d0d83a$0189b850$049d28f0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: I would have tried, but didn't expect it to be on based on reports from Europe saying it wasn't on. Oh well...another time perhaps! 73, Paul, N8HM On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Fraser Bonnett wrote: > On a 60 degree pass at 15:20 UTC (Aug 16) I did manage to hear myself > briefly. No contacts or other's heard though. > > > > Fraser, W3UTD > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Sun Aug 16 17:01:13 2015 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:01:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: <000001d0d83a$0189b850$049d28f0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: EO-79 transponder not heard. Good downlink signals on the telemetry, however. Disappointing... Glenn AA5PK From gkcarr at go-express.net Sun Aug 16 17:02:34 2015 From: gkcarr at go-express.net (gkcarr at go-express.net) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:02:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: <000001d0d83a$0189b850$049d28f0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1439744554.7686205@webmail.goexpress.us> Nor here. George EM30 -----Original Message----- From: "Glenn Miller - AA5PK" Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 12:01 To: "Paul Stoetzer" , "Fraser Bonnett" Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 EO-79 transponder not heard. Good downlink signals on the telemetry, however. Disappointing... Glenn AA5PK _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Sun Aug 16 18:23:43 2015 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David A B Johnson) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:23:43 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] is Funcube Data Warehouse functional anymore? In-Reply-To: <55D06C8F.1060309@denstarfarm.us> References: <55D06C8F.1060309@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <55D0D52F.6090701@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi, If other users are experiencing problems with uploading packets to the warehouse, please email operations at funcube.org.uk 73 Dave, G4DPZ FUNcube Team Member On 16/08/2015 11:57, Bob KD7YZ wrote: > I noticed for quite some time that when I know watch a current pass that > later on the Funcube warehouse.funcube.org.uk never ever adjusts my > uploaded "count" . > > The "Dashboard" program from them has a check-mark in the stream data to > warehouse box. > > I tried this question on the Funcube sponsored Forum, to no avail Then I > noticed that other guys have asked the same question. Those guys as well > as myself never received a single reply. > > I I have a Funcube registration account which they have lost or deleted > then how would I ever know that? There is seemingly no link to write to > them. > > I only can conclude that it is a waste of time for me to have a > dedicated program and radio gear using the Capturing program since it > seems Funcube isn't looking at uploaded data. > > So I m guessing I have something configured incorrectly? What other > choices are there ? > > 73, From g.shirville at btinternet.com Sun Aug 16 21:40:23 2015 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:40:23 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 mode change Message-ID: <51D25BCD25BA4C8F9178B26ADEF20D95@allgood.local> Hi All, Just to confirm that FUNcube-1 was switched back to autonomous mode during its last pass over Europe at approx 20:58 UTC this evening 73 Graham G3VZV From ec4tr.luis at gmail.com Sun Aug 16 22:39:01 2015 From: ec4tr.luis at gmail.com (EC4TR Luis) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 00:39:01 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: <1439744554.7686205@webmail.goexpress.us> References: <000001d0d83a$0189b850$049d28f0$@verizon.net> <1439744554.7686205@webmail.goexpress.us> Message-ID: <55D11105.3060605@gmail.com> Hi In the last pass 22:15 here neither. Poor downlink signal on the telemetry. 73 Luis EC4TR El 16/08/2015 a las 19:02, gkcarr at go-express.net escribi?: > Nor here. > George > EM30 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Glenn Miller - AA5PK" > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 12:01 > To: "Paul Stoetzer" , "Fraser Bonnett" > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 > > > > EO-79 transponder not heard. Good downlink signals on the telemetry, however. Disappointing... > > Glenn AA5PK > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rick at vk6xlr.net Mon Aug 17 00:32:46 2015 From: rick at vk6xlr.net (Rick Kowalewski) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:32:46 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of transponder on EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: <000001d0d83a$0189b850$049d28f0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <55D12BAE.5050601@vk6xlr.net> Same here in Australia. Excellent telemetry but no transponder :( 73 Rick VK6XLR On 17/08/2015 01:01, Glenn Miller - AA5PK wrote: > EO-79 transponder not heard. Good downlink signals on the telemetry, > however. Disappointing... > > Glenn AA5PK From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 18 02:13:09 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:13:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in Northern Hemisphere Message-ID: Good evening, As we're nearly two months pass the Summer Solstice here in the Northern Hemisphere, transponder time is increasing on evening passes over North America. Here in Washington, DC, on the 0155Z pass, I had 6 minutes and 10 seconds of pass time from AOS until the satellite entered sunlight and the transponder switched off. I heard and worked PV8DX at my AOS, but no other stations were heard. AO-73 is currently the only amateur satellite consistently available during regular evening hours, even if not for an entire pass, so let's hear some more activity! It's really quite an easy satellite to work with the strong downlink. 73, Paul, N8HM From w5pfg at amsat.org Tue Aug 18 12:14:05 2015 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 07:14:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in NorthernHemisphere In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55D3218D.5090905@amsat.org> One thing I might add: often I encounter stations spending a lot of time trying to find themselves on the transponder. I suspect they are trying to calibrate their SatPC32/MacDoppler/gpredict. Sadly, they spend so much time doing so that they miss out on the precious transponder time. Ditting/hola/test-test-test without sending a callsign doesn't even make for a good SWL report. I would suggest stations NOT try using computer control and enjoy the transponder with manual control. Chances are if you are not hearing your own downlink on AO-73, you probably either have a poor antenna/feedline OR (more likely) you are not listening in the correct corresponding downlink frequency for your uplink frequency into the transponder. AO-73 is VERY easy to hear! 73 Clayton W5PFG On 8/17/2015 21:13, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Good evening, > > As we're nearly two months pass the Summer Solstice here in the > Northern Hemisphere, transponder time is increasing on evening passes > over North America. Here in Washington, DC, on the 0155Z pass, I had 6 > minutes and 10 seconds of pass time from AOS until the satellite > entered sunlight and the transponder switched off. I heard and worked > PV8DX at my AOS, but no other stations were heard. > > AO-73 is currently the only amateur satellite consistently available > during regular evening hours, even if not for an entire pass, so let's > hear some more activity! It's really quite an easy satellite to work > with the strong downlink. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM From Mvivona at yahoo.com Tue Aug 18 13:20:24 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:20:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in NorthernHemisphere In-Reply-To: <55D3218D.5090905@amsat.org> References: <55D3218D.5090905@amsat.org> Message-ID: <94A73729-BD13-4175-AC86-DDE679E627BA@yahoo.com> Clayton, Recently you may have heard me attempting to find myself on the bandpass. I am tuning manually, but can never get a clean downlink of my voice. Also, I only show up on my spectrum as a small spike and others show up nice and strong. I have tried several times to work it with not much luck. I am using an IC910H, dual Arrow antennas on rotor, no preamp yet, but my coax is quite short with about 3db loss on the 70cm and almost nothing on the 2m. On a high pass I can hear myself, but I can never get my audio to sound right. It always sounds like I'm not on frequency as my voice is always real high pitched through the tuning range. I'm hitting the bird with about 200W ERP. I thought I might be getting into my frontend with harmonics due to my antennas being only about 3 ft apart so I also tried using an eggbeater for the uplink and setting it 20ft away. Granted that dropped my ERP to about 100W, but still the same outcome, but with 100W I could barely hear my downlink. I can hear others nice and strong and they are clean sounding. I also tried a different radio just for the heck of it, but the same outcome. I use dual fed coax and switch polarity as the bird rotates. My settings are: Uplink - 435.130 - 435.150 LSB Downlink - 145.950 - 145.970 USB Michael Vivona KC4ZVA Sent from my iPad On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Clayton W5PFG wrote: One thing I might add: often I encounter stations spending a lot of time trying to find themselves on the transponder. I suspect they are trying to calibrate their SatPC32/MacDoppler/gpredict. Sadly, they spend so much time doing so that they miss out on the precious transponder time. Ditting/hola/test-test-test without sending a callsign doesn't even make for a good SWL report. I would suggest stations NOT try using computer control and enjoy the transponder with manual control. Chances are if you are not hearing your own downlink on AO-73, you probably either have a poor antenna/feedline OR (more likely) you are not listening in the correct corresponding downlink frequency for your uplink frequency into the transponder. AO-73 is VERY easy to hear! 73 Clayton W5PFG > On 8/17/2015 21:13, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Good evening, > > As we're nearly two months pass the Summer Solstice here in the > Northern Hemisphere, transponder time is increasing on evening passes > over North America. Here in Washington, DC, on the 0155Z pass, I had 6 > minutes and 10 seconds of pass time from AOS until the satellite > entered sunlight and the transponder switched off. I heard and worked > PV8DX at my AOS, but no other stations were heard. > > AO-73 is currently the only amateur satellite consistently available > during regular evening hours, even if not for an entire pass, so let's > hear some more activity! It's really quite an easy satellite to work > with the strong downlink. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From redski at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 18 15:21:57 2015 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M Willoughby) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:21:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in NorthernHemisphere Message-ID: <00f401d0d9c9$9fe9fbf0$dfbdf3d0$@bellsouth.net> Same story here, Michael. Manual tuning is the only way I ever hear my signal, but then only above about 30 degrees elevation. I don't have the same troubles on FO-29, etc. One problem I am in the process of fixing is high loss feedlines. Since I am very cautious about using the recommended low power, my EIRP is very low. But, the feedlines should be replaced soon with LMR-400. I hope the other four Funcubes that are in the pipeline will not be as peculiar as AO-73. From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 18 15:45:57 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:45:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in Northern Hemisphere Message-ID: If you need more than 5 watts to hit 25 watts ERP (AMSAT-UK's recommended power), then feel free to up the output as needed! I find I can get in with no problems using 5 watts to the Arrow even down to a couple of degrees as long as there are no obstructions in the way (tree leaves love to suck up 70cm signals, a medium deciduous tree can attenuate 70cm signals by 10.5 dB, so feel free to compensate for this too if you're beaming into trees). Of course, I am using only 6' of LMR-240 and can switch polarity quickly as necessary as I'm holding the antenna. As far as the other FUNcube transponders - 2 of them are already flying (UKube-1 and EO-79 have the other two). They share the same design and likely exhibit the same frequency instability. As the satellites are different (within a 3U and 2U cubesat, respectively) the temperatures may stay a bit more stable, but we'll have to wait and see when they are made available for general use. FUNcube on Nayif-1 will have an improved design and should be more stable. FUNcube on ESEO will be an L/V FM transponder, so it will be different from the other four FUNcube units. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, W M Willoughby wrote: > Same story here, Michael. Manual tuning is the only way I ever hear my > signal, but then only above about 30 degrees elevation. I don't have the > same troubles on FO-29, etc. One problem I am in the process of fixing is > high loss feedlines. Since I am very cautious about using the recommended > low power, my EIRP is very low. But, the feedlines should be replaced soon > with LMR-400. I hope the other four Funcubes that are in the pipeline will > not be as peculiar as AO-73. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From redski at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 18 15:57:44 2015 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M Willoughby) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:57:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in Northern Hemisphere Message-ID: <011f01d0d9ce$a0439b60$e0cad220$@bellsouth.net> Good info on AO-73 - maybe that will help get some more activity on the transponder. Relative to Nayif-1, I need to be thinking about an up-converter and an antenna for L band. Anyone have any recommendations? From g0mrf at aol.com Tue Aug 18 19:42:01 2015 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:42:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in Northern Hemisphere In-Reply-To: <011f01d0d9ce$a0439b60$e0cad220$@bellsouth.net> References: <011f01d0d9ce$a0439b60$e0cad220$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <14f425528b6-2d56-12bd7@webprd-a14.mail.aol.com> Hi WM Nayif-1 will be have a U/V linear transponder as AO-73 but with revised oscillators. The FM system on ESEO will be an L band uplink on 1263.500 and an FM downlink on 145.930. The last tests showed 350mW on the 2m low power setting and 750mW on high power. Access will need a 67Hz CTCSS tone http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2015/04/ESEO_model Not sure about upconverters, but this group in Europe have a transverter which I believe is somewhere about 167 Euros. Although just FM may be much easier. Perhaps of interest in a year or two for the AMSAT-NA Phase 4 project is their upconverter to 5 - 6 GHz. http://www.sg-lab.com/TR1300/tr1300.html Thanks David G0MRF -----Original Message----- From: W M Willoughby To: amsat-bb Sent: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:57 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in Northern Hemisphere Good info on AO-73 - maybe that will help get some more activity on the transponder. Relative to Nayif-1, I need to be thinking about an up-converter and an antenna for L band. Anyone have any recommendations? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n0jy at amsat.org Tue Aug 18 19:55:08 2015 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:55:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in Northern Hemisphere In-Reply-To: <14f425528b6-2d56-12bd7@webprd-a14.mail.aol.com> References: <011f01d0d9ce$a0439b60$e0cad220$@bellsouth.net> <14f425528b6-2d56-12bd7@webprd-a14.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <55D38D9C.1050703@amsat.org> We (AMSAT-NA) have a team working on an upconverter for Fox-1C/D L band, 70 cm in with L satellite band output at TBD (>=15W) power right now. With Fox-1C due to launch around the end of the year we expect to have those plans and maybe parts available for that launch. More information will come out as we get some prototypes tested. Just remind me again in a month or two if I haven't said anything! Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/18/2015 14:42, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi WM > > Nayif-1 will be have a U/V linear transponder as AO-73 but with revised oscillators. > > The FM system on ESEO will be an L band uplink on 1263.500 and an FM downlink on 145.930. > The last tests showed 350mW on the 2m low power setting and 750mW on high power. > Access will need a 67Hz CTCSS tone > > http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2015/04/ESEO_model > > > Not sure about upconverters, but this group in Europe have a transverter which I believe is somewhere about 167 Euros. > > Although just FM may be much easier. > > Perhaps of interest in a year or two for the AMSAT-NA Phase 4 project is their upconverter to 5 - 6 GHz. > > http://www.sg-lab.com/TR1300/tr1300.html > > Thanks > > David G0MRF > > > -----Original Message----- > From: W M Willoughby > To: amsat-bb > Sent: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:57 > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in Northern Hemisphere > > > Good info on AO-73 - maybe that will help get some more activity on > the > transponder. > > > > Relative to Nayif-1, I need to be thinking about an > up-converter and an > antenna for L band. Anyone have any > recommendations? > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested > persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely > those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an > AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From redski at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 18 23:24:26 2015 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M Willoughby) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:24:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in Northern Hemisphere Message-ID: <005601d0da0d$06f11fc0$14d35f40$@bellsouth.net> Thanks for the L band upconverter info, Jerry. When the time is right, I would probably like to ask one of the developers to write an article for the AMSAT Journal (I am helping Joanne as an Assistant Editor). So, please keep that in mind and let me know who might prepare such an article to inform our membership. From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 19 02:26:39 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:26:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in NorthernHemisphere In-Reply-To: <94A73729-BD13-4175-AC86-DDE679E627BA@yahoo.com> References: <55D3218D.5090905@amsat.org> <94A73729-BD13-4175-AC86-DDE679E627BA@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Michael, Nice to hear you work PV8DX right after my AOS on the 0215Z pass for your first AO-73 QSO. I tried to find you afterward, but never heard you again. I worked AB4AN on that pass, heard a CW station that I didn't stick around long enough to identify, and also heard N5KDB, though the sat went over my building before I could work him. Nice to hear some activity on the evening pass! 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Mvivona wrote: > Clayton, > Recently you may have heard me attempting to find myself on the bandpass. I > am tuning manually, but can never get a clean downlink of my voice. Also, I > only show up on my spectrum as a small spike and others show up nice and > strong. > I have tried several times to work it with not much luck. I am using an > IC910H, dual Arrow antennas on rotor, no preamp yet, but my coax is quite > short with about 3db loss on the 70cm and almost nothing on the 2m. On a > high pass I can hear myself, but I can never get my audio to sound right. It > always sounds like I'm not on frequency as my voice is always real high > pitched through the tuning range. I'm hitting the bird with about 200W ERP. > I thought I might be getting into my frontend with harmonics due to my > antennas being only about 3 ft apart so I also tried using an eggbeater for > the uplink and setting it 20ft away. Granted that dropped my ERP to about > 100W, but still the same outcome, but with 100W I could barely hear my > downlink. I can hear others nice and strong and they are clean sounding. I > also tried a different radio just for the heck of it, but the same outcome. > I use dual fed coax and switch polarity as the bird rotates. > My settings are: > Uplink - 435.130 - 435.150 LSB > Downlink - 145.950 - 145.970 USB > > Michael Vivona > KC4ZVA > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > > One thing I might add: often I encounter stations spending a lot of time > trying to find themselves on the transponder. I suspect they are trying to > calibrate their SatPC32/MacDoppler/gpredict. Sadly, they spend so much time > doing so that they miss out on the precious transponder time. > Ditting/hola/test-test-test without sending a callsign doesn't even make for > a good SWL report. > > I would suggest stations NOT try using computer control and enjoy the > transponder with manual control. > > Chances are if you are not hearing your own downlink on AO-73, you probably > either have a poor antenna/feedline OR (more likely) you are not listening > in the correct corresponding downlink frequency for your uplink frequency > into the transponder. AO-73 is VERY easy to hear! > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > On 8/17/2015 21:13, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > Good evening, > > > As we're nearly two months pass the Summer Solstice here in the > > Northern Hemisphere, transponder time is increasing on evening passes > > over North America. Here in Washington, DC, on the 0155Z pass, I had 6 > > minutes and 10 seconds of pass time from AOS until the satellite > > entered sunlight and the transponder switched off. I heard and worked > > PV8DX at my AOS, but no other stations were heard. > > > AO-73 is currently the only amateur satellite consistently available > > during regular evening hours, even if not for an entire pass, so let's > > hear some more activity! It's really quite an easy satellite to work > > with the strong downlink. > > > 73, > > > Paul, N8HM > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From clintbradford at mac.com Wed Aug 19 02:31:55 2015 From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:31:55 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extraordinary Night in Mission Viejo, CA Message-ID: It was a standing room-only crowd of more than 50 last night for my satellite presentation for the SOARA club in Mission Viejo, CA. But what made it truly unique was that 24 attendees passed their Technician tests right before the satellite show ... as well as a couple additional upgrade licenses! SOARA has a wonderful history in the region - and has also been a Special Service Club of the ARRL since 1975. I took a "poll" of how long the attending members have been hams, and there was literally hundreds and hundreds of years of experience present - all excited to welcome the new hams and assist in any aspect of the hobby that crops up. NUMEROUS plugs for the ARRL, AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-UK, and ARISS interspersed throughout the show. And - as always - the Q&A afterward was exciting. THANK YOU to SOARA for the invitation ... AND for weather that was about 20 degrees cooler than staying home tonight! (grin) Clint Bradford K6LCS http://www.work-sat.com From Mvivona at yahoo.com Wed Aug 19 03:03:25 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:03:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 - Evening transponder time increasing in NorthernHemisphere In-Reply-To: References: <55D3218D.5090905@amsat.org> <94A73729-BD13-4175-AC86-DDE679E627BA@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B259FE8-50D3-4FF2-BA2B-392E38AB327F@yahoo.com> OK, this is a good one. I finally found why every time I tried AO-73 I kept hearing myself coming back on the downlink real squeaky and hard to understand. No matter how I tuned. It sounded like I was splattering all over the place. Here comes the funny part. I am using a pair of earbud headphones to hear my downlink. However, I took them off for a second to reach for something. I forgot to put them back on and once again keyed up called CQ. HOLY CRAP.. I got was getting into my souround-sound system real loud and squeaky. It actually startled me. All this time I thought I was hearing myself sounding real squeaky on the downlink in my earphones and it was actually my darned stereo system in the house. I finally made my first linear contact. Woohoo. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: Michael, Nice to hear you work PV8DX right after my AOS on the 0215Z pass for your first AO-73 QSO. I tried to find you afterward, but never heard you again. I worked AB4AN on that pass, heard a CW station that I didn't stick around long enough to identify, and also heard N5KDB, though the sat went over my building before I could work him. Nice to hear some activity on the evening pass! 73, Paul, N8HM > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Mvivona wrote: > Clayton, > Recently you may have heard me attempting to find myself on the bandpass. I > am tuning manually, but can never get a clean downlink of my voice. Also, I > only show up on my spectrum as a small spike and others show up nice and > strong. > I have tried several times to work it with not much luck. I am using an > IC910H, dual Arrow antennas on rotor, no preamp yet, but my coax is quite > short with about 3db loss on the 70cm and almost nothing on the 2m. On a > high pass I can hear myself, but I can never get my audio to sound right. It > always sounds like I'm not on frequency as my voice is always real high > pitched through the tuning range. I'm hitting the bird with about 200W ERP. > I thought I might be getting into my frontend with harmonics due to my > antennas being only about 3 ft apart so I also tried using an eggbeater for > the uplink and setting it 20ft away. Granted that dropped my ERP to about > 100W, but still the same outcome, but with 100W I could barely hear my > downlink. I can hear others nice and strong and they are clean sounding. I > also tried a different radio just for the heck of it, but the same outcome. > I use dual fed coax and switch polarity as the bird rotates. > My settings are: > Uplink - 435.130 - 435.150 LSB > Downlink - 145.950 - 145.970 USB > > Michael Vivona > KC4ZVA > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > > One thing I might add: often I encounter stations spending a lot of time > trying to find themselves on the transponder. I suspect they are trying to > calibrate their SatPC32/MacDoppler/gpredict. Sadly, they spend so much time > doing so that they miss out on the precious transponder time. > Ditting/hola/test-test-test without sending a callsign doesn't even make for > a good SWL report. > > I would suggest stations NOT try using computer control and enjoy the > transponder with manual control. > > Chances are if you are not hearing your own downlink on AO-73, you probably > either have a poor antenna/feedline OR (more likely) you are not listening > in the correct corresponding downlink frequency for your uplink frequency > into the transponder. AO-73 is VERY easy to hear! > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > On 8/17/2015 21:13, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > Good evening, > > > As we're nearly two months pass the Summer Solstice here in the > > Northern Hemisphere, transponder time is increasing on evening passes > > over North America. Here in Washington, DC, on the 0155Z pass, I had 6 > > minutes and 10 seconds of pass time from AOS until the satellite > > entered sunlight and the transponder switched off. I heard and worked > > PV8DX at my AOS, but no other stations were heard. > > > AO-73 is currently the only amateur satellite consistently available > > during regular evening hours, even if not for an entire pass, so let's > > hear some more activity! It's really quite an easy satellite to work > > with the strong downlink. > > > 73, > > > Paul, N8HM > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g0mrf at aol.com Wed Aug 19 07:44:56 2015 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 03:44:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extraordinary Night in Mission Viejo, CA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14f44eb02e4-18c8-14749@webprd-m11.mail.aol.com> Well done Clint If everybody did just 10% of your 'outreach' activities, the hobby would be transformed. Good luck David - G0MRF -----Original Message----- From: Clint Bradford To: AMSAT BB Sent: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 3:32 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extraordinary Night in Mission Viejo, CA It was a standing room-only crowd of more than 50 last night for my satellite presentation for the SOARA club in Mission Viejo, CA. But what made it truly unique was that 24 attendees passed their Technician tests right before the satellite show ... as well as a couple additional upgrade licenses! SOARA has a wonderful history in the region - and has also been a Special Service Club of the ARRL since 1975. I took a "poll" of how long the attending members have been hams, and there was literally hundreds and hundreds of years of experience present - all excited to welcome the new hams and assist in any aspect of the hobby that crops up. NUMEROUS plugs for the ARRL, AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-UK, and ARISS interspersed throughout the show. And - as always - the Q&A afterward was exciting. THANK YOU to SOARA for the invitation ... AND for weather that was about 20 degrees cooler than staying home tonight! (grin) Clint Bradford K6LCS http://www.work-sat.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc2 at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 02:20:30 2015 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:20:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waterproof diplexers Message-ID: Does anyone know of any waterproof diplexers that could be used to feed separate 2m and 70cm antennas with a single coax run? 73 John AF5CC From dan at post.com Wed Aug 19 10:36:18 2015 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:36:18 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waterproof diplexers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 19/08/2015, John Geiger wrote: > Does anyone know of any waterproof diplexers that could be used to feed > separate 2m and 70cm antennas with a single coax run? There was a thread recently called "duplexer used as a filter". In it someone mentioned ". As there doesn't appear to be a weatherproof duplexer available " You can see the thread here: http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-July/054292.html with a discussion about waterproofing. From Mvivona at yahoo.com Wed Aug 19 11:37:34 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:37:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waterproof diplexers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, Check out the mast mount duplexes here: http://www.wimo.com/diplexer_e.html Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:20 PM, John Geiger wrote: Does anyone know of any waterproof diplexers that could be used to feed separate 2m and 70cm antennas with a single coax run? 73 John AF5CC _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From FraserBonnett at verizon.net Wed Aug 19 14:53:11 2015 From: FraserBonnett at verizon.net (Fraser Bonnett) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:53:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Software on Windows 10 Message-ID: <001a01d0da8e$c531f0a0$4f95d1e0$@verizon.net> Took the plunge and upgraded my Ham Shack PC (Win 8.1 x64) to Windows 10. Other than switching a few Com Ports around, everything seems good to go: 1. SatPC32 v12.8c and all sub programs like WinAOS and ISS SatPC32 2. Rotor Controller EA4TX ARS-USB 3. AGW Packet Engine 4. UISS 5.4.0d 5. UIView32 v2.03 6. APRSIS32 7. Orbitron 8. Icom IC-9100 9. HRD 10. DM780 11. SDRConsole (V2) with a Funcube Plus Dongle Pretty much everything that ran under Win 8.1 is running under Win10 with no apparent issues so far. 73, Fraser --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ww8rr at charter.net Wed Aug 19 12:33:13 2015 From: ww8rr at charter.net (ww8rr) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:33:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [VHFcontesting] Waterproof diplexers Message-ID: Both the Diamond and Comet line of diplexers look weather resistant enough.I have used the Diamond type before and really pleased with insertion losses. RonWW8RR From my Samsung Galaxy S4 -------- Original message -------- From: John Geiger Date: 08/18/2015 10:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: AMSAT BB , vhf contesting , Chris Boone via VHF Subject: [VHFcontesting] Waterproof diplexers Does anyone know of any waterproof diplexers that could be used to feed separate 2m and 70cm antennas with a single coax run? 73 John AF5CC _______________________________________________ VHFcontesting mailing list VHFcontesting at contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 15:23:01 2015 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:23:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] When Might ISS Radios Be Off Message-ID: Friends, I often see threads on this board an others, as well as social media, pondering why there is no signal from the ISS amateur radios. In lieu of yesterday's Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)?s H-IIB rocket launch which will rendezvous with the ISS later this week I offer the following flight rules which were provided by Kenneth Ransom N5VHO and were reported in the ANS-313 November 9, 2014. I believe this information explains most of the times when the amateur radios on the ISS are off. Pay attention to ISS announcements for EVAs and dockings and Robotic Arm usage and you will know, most of the time,when the radios will be off. Sites for information include: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/expeditions/index.html http://www.ariss.org http://http://www.issfanclub.com/ Did You Know... Current flight rules require all the ham radios to be off during an EVA. Technically, the VHF radios needs to be off for Russian EVAs and the UHF radio needs to be off for US EVAs. For dockings and undockings, again the ISS operates under a flight rule that has the VHF/UHF radios off for Progress, Soyuz and ATV vehicle activity. Note that Cygnus, Dragon, HTV and formerly the Shuttle did not require the radios to be off. For Ham TV, already mentioned is that it will be off for any EVA. It needs to be off for ATV (the last one November) docking and undocking. It also has to be off when the Robotics arm is in close proximity. 73, EMike E. Michael McCardel, KC8YLD V.P. for Educational Relations, AMSAT-NA Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 From richard.siff at verizon.net Wed Aug 19 15:56:08 2015 From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:56:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR Simulator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60F75D01B1E94D6BBF2AC95E4514CACE@BanjoPC> K4AMG has 3 demo events starting early September - mid October and would like to borrow an AMSAT OSCAR Simulator Old Dominion University Campus event Virginia Beach Hamfest Chesapeake Heritage and Waterway Festival (STEM SPONSOR) At ODU and the Fest our OSCAR Station will be on the air and HF. At the Beach Hamfest we will talk about OSCAR and STEM. Is a simulator available for these events. God Bless R W4BUE K4AMG.org From kk5do at arrl.net Wed Aug 19 16:18:35 2015 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:18:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Software on Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <001a01d0da8e$c531f0a0$4f95d1e0$@verizon.net> References: <001a01d0da8e$c531f0a0$4f95d1e0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <55D4AC5B.5050206@arrl.net> I can add to the list PDA's Logic 8 and 9 (logging software) MMSSTV However, when closing the program you get an error... ???? C:\Program Files (x86)\MMSSTV\Mmsstv.ini ???????? to close the program requires CTRL-ALT-DEL and Task Manager to end the process. You must give Read/Write/Modify rights to the following for the program to close properly mmsstv/history/history.bin mmsstv/stock/list.mtm mmsstv/stock/current.mtm mmsstv/mmsstv.ini Echolink ChromaPix ICOM RS-BA1 Remote Utility and Remote Control (having trouble getting audio from radio to program. seems to not like the selected audio anylonger. something to do with ICOM Virtual Audio. will have to track this problem down. Microsoft Compatibility Troubleshooter says RemoteUty is incompatible.) 73...bruce On 8/19/2015 9:53 AM, Fraser Bonnett wrote: > Took the plunge and upgraded my Ham Shack PC (Win 8.1 x64) to Windows 10. > Other than switching a few Com Ports around, everything seems good to go: > > > > 1. SatPC32 v12.8c and all sub programs like WinAOS and ISS SatPC32 > > 2. Rotor Controller EA4TX ARS-USB > > 3. AGW Packet Engine > > 4. UISS 5.4.0d > > 5. UIView32 v2.03 > > 6. APRSIS32 > > 7. Orbitron > > 8. Icom IC-9100 > > 9. HRD > > 10. DM780 > > 11. SDRConsole (V2) with a Funcube Plus Dongle > > > > Pretty much everything that ran under Win 8.1 is running under Win10 with no > apparent issues so far. > > > > 73, Fraser > > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 16:25:09 2015 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:25:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR Simulator In-Reply-To: <60F75D01B1E94D6BBF2AC95E4514CACE@BanjoPC> References: <60F75D01B1E94D6BBF2AC95E4514CACE@BanjoPC> Message-ID: Rich, The quick answer is, I don't know. They were both given out to have some adaptations done to them and haven't returned. This serves as a good reminder to follow-up with this project. I'll do that today. If I can get one available and meet your deadlines, I will. I will keep you in the loop. Can you provide me with the hard dates for your demos as well as a receive deadline? 73, EMike E. Michael McCardel, KC8YLD V.P. for Educational Relations, AMSAT-NA Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Rich/wa4bue wrote: > K4AMG has 3 demo events starting early September - mid October and would > like to borrow an AMSAT OSCAR Simulator > > Old Dominion University Campus event > Virginia Beach Hamfest > Chesapeake Heritage and Waterway Festival (STEM SPONSOR) > > At ODU and the Fest our OSCAR Station will be on the air and HF. > > At the Beach Hamfest we will talk about OSCAR and STEM. > > Is a simulator available for these events. > > God Bless > > R > W4BUE > > K4AMG.org From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar Wed Aug 19 17:09:02 2015 From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (LW8EXS) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:09:02 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] report RX PSAT ( NO-84 ) Message-ID: 16:56 utc 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [16:56:39R] s#008865,0z290,DeMJCJDfMICKEiKC0LGiJceMHgJifLCcLkhJ 73s de LW8EXS Buenos Aires ? Argentina --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ve3nxk at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 19:40:39 2015 From: ve3nxk at gmail.com (Bill Booth) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:40:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Canadian Satellite Launch Platform Message-ID: <55D4DBB7.6090503@gmail.com> Maybe it will come to pass and enable a lot more hamsats ..... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/canadian-company-patent-build-space-elevator-article-1.2330962 -- Bill Booth VE3NXK Sundridge ON, Canada 79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N FN05ns Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/wxcurrent/weather.html Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life Talk to your family. Your decision can make a difference. From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar Wed Aug 19 20:19:17 2015 From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (LW8EXS) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:19:17 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] report RX PSAT ( NO-84 ) 20:12 utc Message-ID: <77B335C0D56849E0BC7A94AB681200B0@PC1> report RX PSAT ( NO-84 ) 20:12 utc Soft Ui-View: 17:12:41R PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS Port=1 : !02 . N\132 . ES040/999/W3ADO s#009002,0z290 17:12:41R PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS Port=2 : !02 . N\132 . ES040/999/W3ADO s#009002,0z290 17:12:42R PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS Port=1 : s#009002,0z290,MBJeEOLiHmaONfKnhLMaNnkIJCOllHbIPimJ 17:12:42R PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS Port=2 : s#009002,0z290,MBJeEOLiHmaONfKnhLMaNnkIJCOllHbIPimJ Soft Soundmodem: 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [17:12:41R] !02 . N\132 . ES040/999/W3ADO s#009002,0z290 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [17:12:42R] s#009002,0z290,MBJeEOLiHmaONfKnhLMaNnkIJCOllHbIPimJ 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [17:13:03R] T#349,898,074,539,844,848,00011100 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [17:14:04R] T#350,869,074,538,850,848,00011100 73s de LW8EXS Buenos Aires - Argentina --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From john at papays.com Wed Aug 19 20:45:52 2015 From: john at papays.com (John Papay) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:45:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] HH8/KD8CAO Message-ID: <280723.4753.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Doug just emailed that he will try to be on the next FO-29 at 2105utc. He has been very busy working on the radio station in Jacmel and hasn't been able to get on the afternoon passes. Several satellite ops including N8MH, W5PFG, N8RO and KE8AKW worked him on 14251 last night after 0000z. He might be on again tonight. Conditions to the US were very good and his 5W FT817 and dipole were doing an amazing job. He worked 3 ZL's that I heard as well. Hopefully he will be more active Thursday and Friday on the birds. They leave Saturday. 73, John K8YSE From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 19 20:52:24 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:52:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] HH8/KD8CAO In-Reply-To: <280723.4753.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <280723.4753.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That was me, not Mark! Haha. He had an excellent signal here in Washington, DC on 20m last night with his 5 watts and a dipole. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:45 PM, John Papay wrote: > Doug just emailed that he will try to be on the next > FO-29 at 2105utc. He has been very busy working on the > radio station in Jacmel and hasn't been able to get on > the afternoon passes. > > Several satellite ops including N8MH, W5PFG, N8RO and KE8AKW > worked him on 14251 last night after 0000z. He might be on > again tonight. Conditions to the US were very good and his > 5W FT817 and dipole were doing an amazing job. He worked > 3 ZL's that I heard as well. > > Hopefully he will be more active Thursday and Friday on the > birds. They leave Saturday. > 73, > John K8YSE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n4ufo at yahoo.com Wed Aug 19 21:01:13 2015 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ST2 Fox Delta vs lightning Message-ID: <860466289.7206512.1440018073829.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hello all! I had a lightning storm roll through today... radios and gear were powered down but the computer was not. Not sure what the mechanism was, but either my Yaesu rotor controller or my Fox Delta ST2 has suffered a failure. I tried hooking up a 12V wall wart to the ST-2 and I can get the standard display, albeit the brightness is off (due to voltage being off, I now know)... the buttons work, readings are within the ball park, etc. Simply put, it's still working, just something is off somewhere. - So with the ST2 connected and checking voltages I can see that the ST2 is dragging down the voltages from the Yaesu controller considerably... The 12v line (actually measuring ~15.8v when unconnected) drops to 5.5 volts and when I check the current draw it's around 350-400 mA. Hooking up the wall wart and checking again, I find the 12v wall wart (measuring 12.1V when open) drops to 5.7v when connected and shows a current draw of around 600 mA. The wall wart is rated at 420mA and since I am using a 10A scale to measure, sounds about right... it's pulling max current. And clearly the wall wart is capable of supplying more current than the Yaesu controller. -So what I don't know, are normals... Does anyone know the normal current draw of the ST2? (serial RS-232 version, if it matters). I can't imagine it being that high since it is mounted without heatsink!? But I wanted to make sure before I go tearing into the ST-2 to diagnose it. I suspect the 7805 has gone wonky, but still functioning... although it could be something else has shorted. - Thanks in advance for saving me some time and headache! 73, Kevin N4UFO From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 19 21:18:36 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Danish CubeSats head to ISS + other news links Message-ID: <2004619818.7840843.1440019116825.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Danish CubeSats head for ISS. They are expected to be deployed in September by Danish astronaut Andreas Mogensen KG5GCZ who attended the 2009 AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/19/danish-cubesats-head-for-iss/ Newspaper story - School students decode ISS images http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/19/school-students-decode-iss-images/ UKHAS Conference on Saturday http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/17/ukhas-conference-on-saturday/ RSGB Letter to PC Pro Magazine mentions satellites and FUNcube http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/15/rsgb-pc-pro-letter/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 19 22:04:10 2015 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Hawaii on FO-29? Message-ID: <25639980.7561750.1440021850558.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> My tracking software shows a brief FO-29 mutual window with Hawaii and much of the Midwest and Western mainland U.S. in about an hour. Anyone in the aloha state on SSB satellite? -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From n4ufo at yahoo.com Thu Aug 20 00:15:18 2015 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ST2 Fox Delta vs lightning Message-ID: <578686696.7398169.1440029718675.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Thinking more about the possible 'mechanism of damage', I removed the RS-232 driver chip and the current draw dropped down below 100 mA where I'm sure it belongs. So I am (still) manually adjusting rotors until I can get that replaced. Of course, I'll need to check and make sure the serial board in the computer is working okay as well.? 73 all, Kevin N4UFO From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 20 11:16:00 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IARU Coordination of Satellite Frequencies Message-ID: <359804738.8101476.1440069360995.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The IARU have announced they are committed to only coordinate satellite frequencies within the internationally aligned IARU band plans http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/20/iaru-coordination-of-satellite-frequencies/ Rad1o 50-4000 MHz SDR Transceiver video features AMSAT-TAPR Banquet speaker Michael Ossmann AD0NR http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/13/michael-ossmann-chaos-computer-camp/ Amateur Radio Allocations Discussed http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/13/amateur-radio-allocations-discussed/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From kx9x at yahoo.com Thu Aug 20 14:11:44 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:11:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] KX9X/m grid update Message-ID: <52175E3A-5A66-4D4F-8680-F008BF963A2D@yahoo.com> Hi all- I'll be on SO 50 today from the EN60/EM69 line in rural Illinois today from 1616-1950z today. Will also try FO29 half duplex passes, but in having trouble getting that to work. I will transmit on 145.930 and trying to listen as I can. I also need suggestions for Sunday activations. I'll be staying Saturday night in Erie, PA, EN92. Won't get there in time for Saturday's SO50 afternoon passes. What else in that neck of the woods do people need? FN23 is as far north as I can go. Be sure to log me as KX9X/x for LOTW uploads, this includes KX9X/9 for today's activation. Sean KX9X Sent from Sean's iPad From k9jkm at comcast.net Thu Aug 20 16:35:41 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:35:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS and H-II Transfer Vehicle Both Eyeball Visible Message-ID: <003701d0db66$40e60d30$c2b22790$@net> http://spotthestation.nasa.gov/ is a cool tool to find the times that the ISS and the H-II transfer vehicle are eyeball visible for the next few days. H-II and ISS are about 10 minutes apart (with H-II flying by first) from an earthling's point of view. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From k9jkm at comcast.net Thu Aug 20 16:38:04 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:38:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ariane 5 Launch Webcast Today Message-ID: <003801d0db66$96413f70$c2c3be50$@net> Not an amateur radio payload today, but if you enjoy the rumble in the Amazon Jungle of an Ariane launch tune into http://arianespace.tv/ at 19:56 UTC. Ariane 5 will orbit 2 satellites: EUTELSAT 8 West for EUTELSAT, and Intelsat 34 for INTELSAT. It will be launched from the Ariane 5 launch complex N? 3 (ELA3), in Kourou, French Guiana. Webcast begins at 19:56 UTC. Launch is planned for a window between 20:10 to 21:56 UTC. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Thu Aug 20 19:43:09 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:43:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] how can I decode packet thru a Funcube? Message-ID: <55D62DCD.2060508@denstarfarm.us> I want to monitor a few satellites by using my Funcube Dongle Pro Plus on a different computer. I have a spare antenna, an M2 2m440XP ? I've tried setting the FCDP+ to a frequency with their own controlling device then letting MixW or UISS/Soundmodem listen ... but nothing gets decoded. Is this even possible? 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Thu Aug 20 23:09:57 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:09:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FN53 Message-ID: I will be on FO29 and probably SO50 on the early morning passes tomorrow from Bath, Maine. There have been some other ops up higher in the passband where I normally go, plus I will be paying attention for Europe early in the pass, so I may be in the middle or slightly below the middle of the passband. I'm only running 5watts from a pair of 817s and an Arrow antenna, so listen closely :-). Thanks, and 73, Drew KO4MA/1 Sent from my iPhone From kx9x at yahoo.com Fri Aug 21 03:32:05 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:32:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] KX9X/m this weekend Message-ID: <52237AED-502D-46FB-9987-48AB5AACAA8A@yahoo.com> Hi all- I'll be heading back to CT beginning Saturday morning. Will take a couple days to pass through the following grids on my way home: EN92 FN02 FN03 FN13 FN23 Will be on SO50 and FO29. for FO29, I'm half-duplex, transmitting on 145.930. Hope to work you. Sent from Sean's iPad From Mvivona at yahoo.com Fri Aug 21 10:53:55 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 06:53:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] how can I decode packet thru a Funcube? In-Reply-To: <55D62DCD.2060508@denstarfarm.us> References: <55D62DCD.2060508@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <22AE525B-4CC2-4F17-A36E-581BC170CF58@yahoo.com> Are you using the Funcube Dashboard software to tune the dongle? Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Bob KD7YZ wrote: I want to monitor a few satellites by using my Funcube Dongle Pro Plus on a different computer. I have a spare antenna, an M2 2m440XP ? I've tried setting the FCDP+ to a frequency with their own controlling device then letting MixW or UISS/Soundmodem listen ... but nothing gets decoded. Is this even possible? 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john at papays.com Fri Aug 21 16:02:38 2015 From: john at papays.com (John Papay) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:02:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] HH8/KD8CAO Haiti Message-ID: <847342.9546.bm@smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> The last satellite operation by Doug, HH8/KD8CAO, will be on the Friday afternoon passes of FO-29 and SO-50. He is still working on the radio station there and hopes to have everything completed before they leave the island on Saturday. He has also been working HF pileups on 14251 in the evenings with the 5W FT817 and a dipole antenna. Conditions have been good to the US and many satellite op's have made an HF contact with him. No operation is planned for tonight. 73, John K8YSE From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Fri Aug 21 17:31:42 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:31:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] how can I decode packet thru a Funcube? In-Reply-To: <22AE525B-4CC2-4F17-A36E-581BC170CF58@yahoo.com> References: <55D62DCD.2060508@denstarfarm.us> <22AE525B-4CC2-4F17-A36E-581BC170CF58@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <55D7607E.7070508@denstarfarm.us> On 21-Aug-15 0653, Mvivona wrote: > Are you using the Funcube Dashboard software to tune the dongle? > well, yes, when I am letting Dashboard track and report a pass of AO-73. 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 21 17:36:15 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:36:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] how can I decode packet thru a Funcube? In-Reply-To: <55D62DCD.2060508@denstarfarm.us> References: <55D62DCD.2060508@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: You need to use an SDR program like HDSDR or SDR# and a Virtual Audio Cable to feed the audio to MixW, UISS, or Soundmodem. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bob KD7YZ wrote: > I want to monitor a few satellites by using my Funcube Dongle Pro Plus > on a different computer. I have a spare antenna, an M2 2m440XP ? > > I've tried setting the FCDP+ to a frequency with their own controlling > device then letting MixW or UISS/Soundmodem listen ... but nothing gets > decoded. > > Is this even possible? > > > 73, > -- > Bob KD7YZ > http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz > AMSAT LM#901 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jimlist at zoho.com Fri Aug 21 19:24:39 2015 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 20:24:39 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 operations In-Reply-To: <55C5C51F.8020804@zoho.com> References: <37BDC8A892C1465E8495B3B9AEAD7561@allgood.local> <55B228F4.3030002@zoho.com> <55C098A0.9070505@zoho.com> <55C5C51F.8020804@zoho.com> Message-ID: <55D77AF7.6000006@zoho.com> Hi Folks, I have just switched FUNcube-1 into continuous transponder mode at approx 1920 UTC. Have FUN! 73s Jim G3WGM From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Fri Aug 21 21:39:55 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:39:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] how can I decode packet thru a Funcube? In-Reply-To: References: <55D62DCD.2060508@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <55D79AAB.1070504@denstarfarm.us> On 21-Aug-15 1336, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > You need to use an SDR program like HDSDR or SDR# and a Virtual Audio > Cable to feed the audio to MixW, UISS, or Soundmodem. I got this link: http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/ and did install a virtual audio cable, Paul. Thanks to PE0SAT for that info. Now I need tweaking info, hi hi . I saw the ISS earlier with FCDP+/SDR#/MixW3 by using the Virtual Audio Cale's In and Out. Though 145.825 burst were clearly defined and nicely strong, MixW3 got no decodes. However, when I used the IC910 thru the other antennas, The Funcube-Lashup into MixW3 did decode my KD7YZ/RS0OSS/CQ packets via the M2-2M-440XP .. as I said, at the moment, ISS was quite strong on a wet noodle. So The entire process is correctly built,lashed. I just think I need to find out how to boost the audio that is winding up inputted to MixW3. I guess. What other tweaks to I try? 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From whattwood at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 21:42:38 2015 From: whattwood at gmail.com (Bill Attwood) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:42:38 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Servo Based Rotator for $375 Message-ID: <55D79B4E.90309@gmail.com> After fielding a number of questions about my light-duty rotator I finally got around to making a bit of a parts list, etc. I've posted it at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=118737 for anyone interested. I do hope to clean up the instructions and add some photos as time permits! 73, Bill VE6WK --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 22:59:01 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:59:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Servo Based Rotator for $375 In-Reply-To: <55D79B4E.90309@gmail.com> References: <55D79B4E.90309@gmail.com> Message-ID: This looks really cool. I have seen a few different rotators online. I can't remember which one was yours or if you have posted vids/pics. Regardless, do you have any? If so please share! On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Bill Attwood wrote: > After fielding a number of questions about my light-duty rotator I finally > got around to making a bit of a parts list, etc. I've posted it at > https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=118737 for anyone > interested. > > I do hope to clean up the instructions and add some photos as time permits! > > 73, > Bill VE6WK > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 11:57:09 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 07:57:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Maybe Activating Blueridge parkway in North Carolina Message-ID: I'm headed to the parkway mainly to get closer to the Arizona ARISS contact happening this afternoon but I'll have my gear to get on SO-50 for perhaps both Sat and Sun depending on when I decide to come back home to Raleigh. Looks like grids EM96, EM95 and EM85. No promises as I haven't even looked up if there are passes but if you need those grids look out for me! John, KG4AKV From ku4os at cfl.rr.com Sun Aug 23 00:27:38 2015 From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:27:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-235 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <55D9137A.8000402@cfl.rr.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-235 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Launch Date for AMSAT Fox-1A * Satellite Antennas and the Amateur Radio Parity Act of 2015 * CubeSat Developers' Workshop Presentations Online * JAXA H-II Transport Vehicle to Deliver Two ESA Cubesats * IARU Coordination of Satellite Frequencies * IARU Region 3 Act on Band Plan Satellite Allocations * AMSAT Satellite Communications Awards * Send Your Name to Mars on NASA's Next Red Planet Mission SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-235.01 ANS-235 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 235.01 From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD. August 23, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-214.01 Launch Date for AMSAT Fox-1A Jeru Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT Vice President of Engineering advises that AMSAT has been informed that the launch of Fox-1A is now scheduled for October 8. No other details are available at this time. [ANS thanks Jerry, N0JY, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Antennas and the Amateur Radio Parity Act of 2015 AMSAT members are encouraged to contact their congressional representatives and senators, asking them to sign on to The Amateur Radio Parity Act of 2015 as a co-sponsor. Passage of the Act (currently consisting of bills in both the House and Senate) will directly benefit AMSAT members and likely help us grow our membership numbers. Putting satellites in orbit is only half the challenge of "working the birds." Reaching them with an appropriate ground station is the other half. Many of us living in housing developments, condos or apartments would love to have a fixed station antenna system but are severely limited by restrictive CC&Rs that forbid outside antennas. We are relegated to working ISS, SO-50 and future LEO satellites with Arrows, Elks and HTs. The Radio Amateur Parity Act of 2015 would not give Amateurs "carte blanche" to do whatever they wished in terms of erecting radio antennas where they now are prohibited. But it would eliminate blanket prohibitions, requiring HOAs and other private land use regulators to extend reasonable accommodation to Amateurs who want to erect antennas. The ARRL is leading on this issue for the larger Amateur Radio community. Sample letters for the U.S. House and Senate, along with instructions for their use. can be found at this link: http://www.arrl.org/amateur-radio-parity-act [ANS thanks Joe Neil Kornowski, KB6IGK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- CubeSat Developers' Workshop Presentations Online The 12th Annual Summer CubeSat Developers? Workshop was a great success!! The Workshop feedback has been amazing, and truly underscores the efforts of all who participated, from the engaging, entertaining, and provocative technical presentations to the incredible networking opportunities. Thank you to all Presenters, Attendees, Sponsors, Live Stream Viewers, and Organizers! Your contribution was invaluable to the success of the Workshop and greatly appreciated! For those of you who could not make it, or for those of you who want to review what you saw, all presentations can be found online on cubesat.org with a link to the video of the presentation. Please join us at the 13th Annual Spring Developers? Workshop at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, CA from April 20-22, 2016. [ANS thanks The CubeSat Workshop Team for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- JAXA H-II Transport Vehicle to Deliver Two ESA Cubesats Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency's (JAXA) launch of its H-II Transport Vehicle (HTV)-5 to the International Space Station on Wednesday, Aug. 19 included two cubesats. These satellites will then be deployed together into space in the first half of September, with the involvement of Danish ESA astronaut Andreas Mogensen. Both CubeSats originated from Denmark. GOMX-3 is a 3U Cubesat. The mission and its payloads will be used for story telling and teaching. It will include an ADS-B receiver, magnetometer data, solar cells and green energy and radio operation. An experimental X Band transmitter plus an SDR receiver will also be carried. GOMX-3 downlink: 437.250 MHz with 1k2-9k6 GMSK data from a NanoCom AX100 using CSP protocol. AAUSAT-5 is a 1 unit cubesat. The primary mission is to receive AIS beacons from ships with a new design based on AAUSAT-3. In addition to that a educational payload for high school outreach was designed by engineering students. The AIS receiver payload is based on SDR principles. Once deployed from the ISS it is expected to remain in orbit for approx 6 months. AAUSAT-5 downlink: 437.425 MHz, GMSK telemetry. Danish Ministry of Science and Education, House of Natural Sciences http://nvhus.dk/house-of-natural-sceinces.aspx ESA Cubesat launch announcement: http://tinyurl.com/ESA-Gomx SpaceRef.com article about AAUSAT-5: http://tinyurl.com/AAUSAT-Article [ANS thanks ESA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- IARU Coordination of Satellite Frequencies The IARU have announced they are committed to only coordinate satellite frequencies within the internationally aligned IARU band plans. The two metre amateur band is one of the most popular and populated bands in all the spectrum allocated to the amateur and amateur satellite services. This recently led to a request by satellite builders for coordination outside the spectrum reserved for satellites in the IARU band plans (145.800 ? 146.000 MHz) as not enough channels are available to satisfy their requirements. The IARU Satellite Adviser, Hans van de Groenendaal, ZS6AKV and his advisory panel are mandated to coordinate frequencies within the IARU band plans for amateur satellites. Coordinated frequencies must comply with band plans that are common to all three IARU Regions Satellites coordinated outside these plans could cause interference to terrestrial amateur operations in other regions. In theory satellites could be programmed so that they only operate over their country of origin. Because satellite orbits make it difficult to pinpoint operations, spill over to other Regions may occur during parts of the orbit. Accordingly, IARU will not coordinate frequencies for satellites which are planned to operate outside the internationally aligned IARU band plans for amateur satellites. The IARU offers frequency coordination in an effort to maximise spectrum utilisation and avoid possible interference to other satellites and ground stations. The IARU requests that satellite groups work on a sharing plan or use other parts of the amateur service spectrum designated for satellite operation. When a large group of satellite sharing the same band are launched, they will soon drift apart which enhances the opportunity to share the same frequencies. For example, during the initial phase, just after launch, a time sharing system could be used to monitor the payloads before initialising transponders and other systems. For instance, the 10 metre band, once popular with satellite builders, is today not significantly used. The band segment 29.300-29.510 MHz has been used for amateur-satellite downlinks for more than 40 years, beginning with Australis- OSCAR 5 in 1970 and AMSAT-OSCAR 6, AMSAT?s first communications satellite, in 1972. The band segment was very popular for downlinks in the 1970s and 1980s. Today, only one amateur satellite actively uses a 29 MHz downlink: AMSAT-OSCAR 7, launched in 1974 [and RS-15 on 29.3525 MHz ? Editor]. While a 29 MHz downlink would not be practical for today?s very small satellites, owing to the size of the antenna required, the band could be used very practically for uplinks even with small receiving antennas, because transmitting power at the earth station is easy to obtain. The IARU Satellite Adviser and his panel believe that the 10 metre band offers a good alternative to 2 metre uplinks Currently the IARU team also coordinates frequencies for satellites built by universities and educational groups in an effort to maximise spectrum utilisation and mitigate any possible interference to Amateur Radio operations. The IARU is committed to work with these groups and with the ITU to find other spectrum for these satellites. Rod Stafford W6ROD Secretary International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) [ANS thanks Rod, W6ROD, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- IARU Region 3 Act on Band Plan Satellite Allocations The IARU Region 3 (Asia/Pacific) Directors have submitted a band plan paper concerning amateur satellite allocations for consideration at the IARU Region 3 Conference which takes place October 12-16 in Bali, Indonesia. This is the 16th Conference and it will be hosted by the Amateur Radio Organisation of Indonesia (ORARI). 60 Premier and 12 Suite hotel rooms have been booked at the Sanur Paradise Plaza Hotel which is described as being situated in Sanur, the secretly sophisticated side of Bali. ORARI plans to run a special event station YB16IARU from October 11-16 from the conference and the delegates will be taken on a tour of Bali. The President of ORARI, Sutiyoso YB0ST, says: ?It?s an exciting time for us as we continue to grow and thrive, remaining always adaptable, motivated and responsive. The world of amateur radio is an exciting area in which to work and play, and we?ll continue to meet and bring inspired people together in forums like this, to ensure IARU Region 3 remains at the cutting edge.? The changes proposed by IARU Region 3 Directors would appear to prohibit the use of the Amateur Satellite Service channel 144.490 MHz as an uplink for crewed space missions. Use of this channel was agreed by IARU Region 3 some 20 years ago but the new paper says: ?Note 2: The other portion of the band 144.035-145.8 MHz is exclusively identified for the amateur service.? At the same time IARU Region 3 had agreed the crewed space mission downlink channel would be 145.800 MHz using 5 kHz deviation FM with a Doppler shift of +/- 3.75 kHz. The paper does not record this. Read the IARU R3 Directors amateur satellite band plan paper at http://www.iaru- r3.org/16r3c/docs/022%20Modification%20to%20R3%20Band%20Plan.docx The Wireless Institute of Australia (WIA) have presented a satellite band plan paper, see http://www.iaru-r3.org/16r3c/docs/023%20Changes%20to%20R3%20Bandplan.docx Other papers submitted for the conference may be seen at http://iaru-r3.org/16th-triennial-conference-of-the-iaru-r3-documents/ 16th IARU R3 Conference http://www.iarur3conf2015.org/ IARU Coordination of Satellite Frequencies http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/20/iaru-coordination-of-satellite-frequencies/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Satellite Communications Awards Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director Contests and Awards provided the following corrected list of AMSAT Satellite Communications Award recipients as an update to the list previously published in ANS-228. Steve Kristoff, AI9IN #564 Frank Westphal, K6FW #565 Fraser Bonnett, W3UTD #566 Carlton Noll, KA4H #567 (also a new member to AMSAT) [ANS thanks Bruce, KK5DO, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Send Your Name to Mars on NASA's Next Red Planet Mission Mars enthusiasts around the world can participate in NASA?s journey to Mars by adding their names to a silicon microchip headed to the Red Planet aboard NASA's InSight Mars lander, scheduled to launch next year. "Our next step in the journey to Mars is another fantastic mission to the surface," said Jim Green, director of planetary science at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "By participating in this opportunity to send your name aboard InSight to the Red Planet, you're showing that you're part of that journey and the future of space exploration." Submissions will be accepted until Sept. 8. To send your name to Mars aboard InSight, go to: http://go.usa.gov/3Aj3G The fly-your-name opportunity comes with ?frequent flier? points to reflect an individual's personal participation in NASA?s journey to Mars, which will span multiple missions and multiple decades. The InSight mission offers the second such opportunity for space exploration fans to collect points by flying their names aboard a NASA mission, with more opportunities to follow. Last December, the names of 1.38 million people flew on a chip aboard the first flight of NASA's Orion spacecraft, which will carry astronauts to deep space destinations including Mars and an asteroid. After InSight, the next opportunity to earn frequent flier points will be NASA's Exploration Mission-1, the first planned test flight bringing together the Space Launch System rocket and Orion capsule in preparation for human missions to Mars and beyond. InSight will launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base, California in March 2016 and land on Mars Sept. 28, 2016. The mission is the first dedicated to the investigation of the deep interior of the planet. It will place the first seismometer directly on the surface of Mars to measure Martian quakes and use seismic waves to learn about the planet's interior. It also will deploy a self- hammering heat probe that will burrow deeper into the ground than any previous device on the Red Planet. These and other InSight investigations will improve our understanding about the formation and evolution of all rocky planets, including Earth. For additional information about the InSight mission, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/insight/main/index.html You can follow the mission on Facebook and Twitter at: https://www.facebook.com/NASAInSight and https://twitter.com/nasainsight [ANS thanks NASA for the above information] /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Lee McLamb, KU4OS ku4os at amsat dot org From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Aug 23 16:11:35 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:11:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PR8ZX (GI64gl) QRV this afternoon Message-ID: Good afternoon, Pedro, PR8ZX, tells me he will be on FO-29 and AO-7 this afternoon from his home QTH - GI64 - looking for North American stations. If you need it and you have a window, look for him. 73, Paul, N8HM From g.shirville at btinternet.com Sun Aug 23 21:43:18 2015 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 22:43:18 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 now in autonomous mode Message-ID: <0C74B418B5AE4F538635A01E3A6A181A@allgood.local> Just to advise that FUNcube-1 is now operating in autonomous mode. 73 Graham G3VZV From af5cc2 at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 21:50:58 2015 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:50:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 2m passband Message-ID: What are the downlink passband frequencies for AO73. They seem to be different than I was saw on the Amsat website. 73 John AF5CC From g0mrf at aol.com Sun Aug 23 21:59:01 2015 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:59:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 2m passband In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14f5c9263b3-4b00-da55@webprd-m38.mail.aol.com> Hi John Apx. 145.950 to 145.970 There is the usual change with Doppler which causes these to shift by about 3kHz from AOS to LOS and there is the shape of the IF filters working against the AGC gain variation. David G0MRF -----Original Message----- From: John Geiger To: AMSAT BB Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 22:51 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 2m passband What are the downlink passband frequencies for AO73. They seem to be different than I was saw on the Amsat website. 73 John AF5CC _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.net Sun Aug 23 22:13:14 2015 From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 18:13:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84? Message-ID: <75435D2743194760BFBA0CACAE2BE4BF@StevePC> I'm making no claim to be the expert on this, but it looks like the voltage on NO-84 has stabilized. Haven't seen anything below 7 volts for a while. Can we anticipate that it will be open for digipeating in the near (or semi-near) future? Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof at etczone.com From james at wx4tv.com Mon Aug 24 12:50:32 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 08:50:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z Message-ID: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> Did anyone record this pass? Hope worked a few stations from the beach in EL98 and there was an XE1 station that she worked at the end of the pass. The recording is covered up by someone on the beach coming up and asking what she was doing. I can?t make out the callsign. Thanks for everyone who bears with all of the kids as they learn how to be good operators! This pass was a great learning experience to explain how some people are lids and that it is illegal to key up your mic and whistle on the radio. The youngest wonders why someone would spend so much money and time to make a satellite station and then just try to jam people. She is very observant. 73, James - WX4TV From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 24 12:53:03 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 08:53:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> Message-ID: That was Eduardo, XE1SEW. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 8:50 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > Did anyone record this pass? Hope worked a few stations from the beach in EL98 and there was an XE1 station that she worked at the end of the pass. The recording is covered up by someone on the beach coming up and asking what she was doing. I can?t make out the callsign. > > Thanks for everyone who bears with all of the kids as they learn how to be good operators! This pass was a great learning experience to explain how some people are lids and that it is illegal to key up your mic and whistle on the radio. The youngest wonders why someone would spend so much money and time to make a satellite station and then just try to jam people. She is very observant. > > 73, > > James - WX4TV > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Aug 24 13:03:14 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:03:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84? In-Reply-To: <75435D2743194760BFBA0CACAE2BE4BF@StevePC> References: <75435D2743194760BFBA0CACAE2BE4BF@StevePC> Message-ID: Yes, we will be turning it on within 12 hours or so. Bob. WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Steve Kristoff Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 6:13 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84? I'm making no claim to be the expert on this, but it looks like the voltage on NO-84 has stabilized. Haven't seen anything below 7 volts for a while. Can we anticipate that it will be open for digipeating in the near (or semi-near) future? Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof at etczone.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Aug 24 14:16:51 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:16:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software In-Reply-To: <1501701952.2923453.1437000085467.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1501701952.2923453.1437000085467.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5245b13e387d33207934eaf575961fd6@mail.gmail.com> PSAT seems to be returning to good health. We will keep the digipeater off, but will now announce it is safe to resume PSK31 experiments. Remember, when we ran out of power, great progress had been made with Andy's pre-compensating PSK31 uplink software (below). Here also are the latest elements for PSAT: PSAT 1 90720U 15234.36512451 +.00008395 +00000-0 +21488-3 0 0099 2 90720 054.9897 293.1329 0244566 052.6872 309.6216 15.1526532401420 When PSAT-1 is using the PSAT-1 callsign, that means the digipeater is off. But as of now, PSK31 experimentation is authorized. 28.120 PSK31 uplink and 435.350 FM downlink. Bob, WB4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of aflowers at frontiernet.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:41 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software I put together an experimental program called DopplerPSK to compensate for the Doppler shift on the NO-84 (or NO-83) PSK31 uplink. In essence, its a PSK31 transmitter that is merged with an orbital propagator to cause your transmitted signal to drift exactly opposite to uplink Doppler effect. It does this in a phase-continuous correction so that you don't get errors due to discontinuous frequency adjustments from controlling a radio in discrete steps. In the case of PSAT and BricSat, it should cause your signal to stay at constant frequency in the satellite's uplink receiver, and thus you should get a stable frequency on the FM downlink as well. In turn, this means you should be able to use your favorite PSK31 demodulating software to copy the downlink since the frequency drift should stay well within the AFC tolerance of the software. Anyway, if there are any adventurous people who are set up to give this a go, I would be interested in seeing if it actually works. You can find a rough quick-start guide (which contains an explanation of how it works and what you need to get started) and the application package on the rather minimalist page here: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/dopplerpsk/dopplerpsk.html It's an experiment, so be prepared for disappointment. I am :-) Andy K0SM/2 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From my.callsign at verizon.net Mon Aug 24 14:25:11 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 07:25:11 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> Message-ID: <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> Basic concept.... If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! BOB KO6TZ From james at wx4tv.com Mon Aug 24 14:27:05 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:27:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM97 Activation Message-ID: <5165AD85-9BE6-455E-BB6B-338A18B6CC44@wx4tv.com> I will be working in West Virginia in EM97 on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday of this week and will work as many SO-50 passes as I can. If anyone needs that grid, let me know and I will let you know when I will be on the satellite. 73, James From skristof at etczone.com Mon Aug 24 14:45:33 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:45:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> Message-ID: Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to give you a call. Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. Steve AI9IN On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: > Basic concept.... > > If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! > > BOB KO6TZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1] Links: ------ [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From martha at amsat.org Mon Aug 24 15:14:05 2015 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:14:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Making Reservations Message-ID: I have been in contact with the Crowne Plaza in Dayton. Our original Sales Manager is gone! Information she gave us turns out to be incorrect. To make reservations for the AMSAT Space Symposium call 1-800-689-5586 and ask for the AMSAT block. I have been assured by Nicole (our new Sales Manager) that this will work. -- 73- Martha From james at wx4tv.com Mon Aug 24 15:29:17 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> Message-ID: OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on the beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. I am so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 year old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can belittle my daughter to her face. Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the recording. > On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. > > Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to > give you a call. > > Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered > the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? > > What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing > ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. > > Steve AI9IN > > On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: > >> Basic concept.... >> >> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! >> >> BOB KO6TZ >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 15:32:03 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:32:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Making Reservations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000701d0de82$072ba540$1582efc0$@GMAIL.COM> Martha, I have added that number to the information about the Symposium on the AMSAT web site. It is different from the numbers give on their web site. Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- ; Board of Directors ; John Kludt < References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> Message-ID: Not saying anyone did anything wrong but if possible it is better to make a external speaker out cable to go into an line input in, ideally an audio recorder, or less ideally a voice recorder. I just got a Zoom H1 for this purpose. You may also need an audio splitter. John, KG4AKV On Aug 24, 2015 11:29 AM, "James Lea - WX4TV" wrote: > OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on the > beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. I am > so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 year > old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an > antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby > altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can > belittle my daughter to her face. > > Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the > recording. > > > > > On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > > > > > Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. > > > > Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to > > give you a call. > > > > Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered > > the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? > > > > What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing > > ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. > > > > Steve AI9IN > > > > On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: > > > >> Basic concept.... > >> > >> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! > >> > >> BOB KO6TZ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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WS120/999/W3ADO s#013653,0z290 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [12:39:41R] s#013653,0z290,aeHehEfbgeIAaDJdhFgdgfJacEKdiGfehfJc 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [12:41:26R] T#174,894,071,628,768,832,00011100 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [12:42:27R] T#175,902,074,633,763,830,00011100 73s LW8EXS Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From james at wx4tv.com Mon Aug 24 15:47:42 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:47:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> Message-ID: That is in the works, John. I am allowing her to learn and make her own decisions about things. Simply giving it all to her upfront doesn?t encourage learning. Nor does belittling a little girl, as was done in a previous message. Thanks for the advice. > On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:44 AM, John Brier wrote: > > Not saying anyone did anything wrong but if possible it is better to make a external speaker out cable to go into an line input in, ideally an audio recorder, or less ideally a voice recorder. I just got a Zoom H1 for this purpose. You may also need an audio splitter. > > John, KG4AKV > > On Aug 24, 2015 11:29 AM, "James Lea - WX4TV" > wrote: > OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on the beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. I am so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 year old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can belittle my daughter to her face. > > Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the recording. > > > > > On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > > > > > Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. > > > > Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to > > give you a call. > > > > Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered > > the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? > > > > What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing > > ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. > > > > Steve AI9IN > > > > On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: > > > >> Basic concept.... > >> > >> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! > >> > >> BOB KO6TZ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1] > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gus at 8p6sm.net Mon Aug 24 15:59:27 2015 From: gus at 8p6sm.net (Gus) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:59:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> Message-ID: <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Bob is completely correct. It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to stand next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the callsign yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside assistance are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count either, for contests or awards. I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't want to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But facts are facts. Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there. On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on the beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. I am so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 year old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can belittle my daughter to her face. > > Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the recording. > > > >> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. >> >> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to >> give you a call. >> >> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered >> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? >> >> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing >> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. >> >> Steve AI9IN >> >> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: >> >>> Basic concept.... >>> >>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! >>> >>> BOB KO6TZ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1] >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Gus 8P6SM The Easternmost Isle From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 24 16:02:32 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:02:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: She copied the callsign, but since they relied on the recording to log, she didn't remember it. The QSO is fine. We all have logging failures like that! As far as contacts on sked not counting - that's incorrect. They are just as legit as any other contact. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Gus wrote: > Bob is completely correct. > > It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what > equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to stand > next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the callsign > yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside assistance > are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count either, for > contests or awards. > > I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't want to > discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I want to > make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But facts are facts. > > Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there. > > > On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: >> >> OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on the >> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. I am >> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 year >> old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an >> antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby >> altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can belittle >> my daughter to her face. >> >> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the >> recording. >> >> >> >>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. >>> >>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to >>> give you a call. >>> >>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered >>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? >>> >>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing >>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. >>> >>> Steve AI9IN >>> >>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: >>> >>>> Basic concept.... >>>> >>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! >>>> >>>> BOB KO6TZ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> [1] >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > -- > Gus 8P6SM > The Easternmost Isle > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb1pvh at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 16:16:16 2015 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:16:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: Why does everyone need to play satellite QSO police? Maybe, just maybe they wanted to know the callsign so she could see where on Earth he was. Ya know, she's 9 years old and she does a better job on the birds than a few of the self proclaimed satellite ninjas that I hear. I don't understand why people need to throw in their "If you didn't copy it, it wasn't a contact" crap. Maybe we should say that listening to your recording doesn't count because after all, it was the recorder that copied it not you. If you weren't on the pass and don't have the info that was asked for maybe you should just not reply. It's a hobby...lay off. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From ve6egn at xplornet.com Mon Aug 24 16:19:17 2015 From: ve6egn at xplornet.com (Egon) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:19:17 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com><55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net><55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: <64D0FF51350E42A2B7CE58E195D35836@EgonPC> Well said Dave. Egon VE6EGN/SA3EGN -----Original Message----- From: Dave Webb KB1PVH Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:16 AM To: AMSAT -BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z Why does everyone need to play satellite QSO police? Maybe, just maybe they wanted to know the callsign so she could see where on Earth he was. Ya know, she's 9 years old and she does a better job on the birds than a few of the self proclaimed satellite ninjas that I hear. I don't understand why people need to throw in their "If you didn't copy it, it wasn't a contact" crap. Maybe we should say that listening to your recording doesn't count because after all, it was the recorder that copied it not you. If you weren't on the pass and don't have the info that was asked for maybe you should just not reply. It's a hobby...lay off. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6125 / Virus Database: 4409/10501 - Release Date: 08/24/15 From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 16:39:52 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:39:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> Message-ID: That makes sense. Let her learn and understand through learning, even failing sometimes. On Aug 24, 2015 11:47 AM, "James Lea - WX4TV" wrote: > That is in the works, John. I am allowing her to learn and make her own > decisions about things. Simply giving it all to her upfront doesn?t > encourage learning. Nor does belittling a little girl, as was done in a > previous message. > > Thanks for the advice. > > > On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:44 AM, John Brier wrote: > > Not saying anyone did anything wrong but if possible it is better to make > a external speaker out cable to go into an line input in, ideally an audio > recorder, or less ideally a voice recorder. I just got a Zoom H1 for this > purpose. You may also need an audio splitter. > > John, KG4AKV > On Aug 24, 2015 11:29 AM, "James Lea - WX4TV" wrote: > >> OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on the >> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. I am >> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 year >> old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an >> antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby >> altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can >> belittle my daughter to her face. >> >> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the >> recording. >> >> >> >> > On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. >> > >> > Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to >> > give you a call. >> > >> > Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered >> > the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? >> > >> > What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing >> > ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. >> > >> > Steve AI9IN >> > >> > On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: >> > >> >> Basic concept.... >> >> >> >> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact >> !!! >> >> >> >> BOB KO6TZ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> [1] >> > >> > >> > Links: >> > ------ >> > [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From jim at k6ccc.org Mon Aug 24 16:26:26 2015 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:26:26 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: <2caecbe1e1c54d5ea52cfe194a78a3fc@k6ccc.org> Gus said (in part): > And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count either, for contests or awards. You have clearly never operated a microwave contest. For all practical purposes, all contacts are made using a lower frequency co-ordination frequency or network. When you are operating in a mode where the dishes at both ends of the path need to be pointed within a half degree of peak, and are often at best able to get signals that are only a dB or two above ESP level - and of course you need to be on the same frequency, it would be almost impossible for two stations to make any contacts with co-ordination via some means. The contacts are legitmately made on the microwave frequencies, but getting the dishes pointed is done at lower frequencies. BTW, I point out that the dishes are often not pointed at each other, but rather something to bounce off of (such as a mountain, clouds or airplanes). Here is the Southwest US, a normally private linked UHF radio system that covers most of the southwest opens the system for the microwave contest operators for both weekends of the 10GHz and up contests. It's really quite amazing to hear what they do, but there is no way they could make the contacts that they do without co-ordinating them. Jim - K6CCC From af5cc2 at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 17:08:48 2015 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:08:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: Sked QSOs do count for awards. Done all of the time for EME and meteor scatter QSOs. John AF5CC On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus wrote: > Bob is completely correct. > > It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what > equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to stand > next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the callsign > yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside > assistance are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count > either, for contests or awards. > > I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't want > to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I > want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But facts > are facts. > > Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there. > > On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > >> OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on the >> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. I am >> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 year >> old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an >> antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby >> altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can >> belittle my daughter to her face. >> >> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the >> recording. >> >> >> >> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. >>> >>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to >>> give you a call. >>> >>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered >>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? >>> >>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing >>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. >>> >>> Steve AI9IN >>> >>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: >>> >>> Basic concept.... >>>> >>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! >>>> >>>> BOB KO6TZ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>> of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> [1] >>>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > > -- > Gus 8P6SM > The Easternmost Isle > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From whattwood at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 17:27:49 2015 From: whattwood at gmail.com (Bill Attwood) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:27:49 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable rotator Message-ID: <55DB5415.3000407@gmail.com> Hi all, I posted a little too soon about my rotator "blog" on Friday - I've since cleaned up the post and added some high resolution pics (plus a short video). If you'd like to take another boo here's the link again: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=118737 It would be great to get some comments and thoughts (critical ones welcome!) in the Pi forum. 73, Bill VE6WK --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From james at wx4tv.com Mon Aug 24 18:33:33 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:33:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: We?re talking about a 9 year old girl who worked her tail off to learn the material and earn her Technician license. She is now studying for her General and learning Morse Code. She also likes to learn by doing. Hence, she is making a few mistakes along the way as she operates. But, she learns. I will leave it to Bob and Angus to figure out what she learned about adults like them from reading these posts. (Yes, she does read them.) As her dad, I will call it as I see it. You?re both being bullies to a little girl who is excited about her new hobby. Way to go. I hope that you feel superior to her by setting the record straight that this wasn?t a valid contact. She doesn?t really care about the grids or the contests or the awards. She simply likes talking to people on the radio and figuring out where her signal went. She likes to go to public places to operate because people ask questions and she gets to tell them how fun Ham Radio is. This time, the recording got covered up by someone asking a question. She is a little girl who was excited that she spoke to someone in Mexico via Ham Radio. Bob and Angus, you have dashed the excitement. Well done. She bounced back, though? She determined on her own that if she is ever in a grid that you need, she isn?t going to give it to you. (Grids are so important, aren?t they?) Heck, she is speaking about satellite ops at the Dayton Youth Forum next year. Maybe you might make it into her speech. > On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, John Geiger wrote: > > Sked QSOs do count for awards. Done all of the time for EME and meteor > scatter QSOs. > > John AF5CC > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus wrote: > >> Bob is completely correct. >> >> It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what >> equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to stand >> next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the callsign >> yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside >> assistance are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count >> either, for contests or awards. >> >> I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't want >> to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I >> want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But facts >> are facts. >> >> Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there. >> >> On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: >> >>> OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on the >>> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. I am >>> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 year >>> old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an >>> antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby >>> altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can >>> belittle my daughter to her face. >>> >>> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the >>> recording. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. >>>> >>>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to >>>> give you a call. >>>> >>>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator covered >>>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? >>>> >>>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing >>>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. >>>> >>>> Steve AI9IN >>>> >>>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: >>>> >>>> Basic concept.... >>>>> >>>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact !!! >>>>> >>>>> BOB KO6TZ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>> Opinions expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>>> of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> [1] >>>>> >>>> >>>> Links: >>>> ------ >>>> [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> >> >> -- >> Gus 8P6SM >> The Easternmost Isle >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wb3csy at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 18:46:54 2015 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:46:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] July/August AMSAT Journal Message-ID: Just received the very nice July/August AMSAT journal in the mail today at Lancaster, PA. Lots of great pictures and large content. Congratulations to all involved that create this fine publication for us! Rick - WB3CSY Sent from Rick's iPhone 5 "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein From tnetcenter at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 19:09:06 2015 From: tnetcenter at gmail.com (Jeff Moore) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:09:06 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: Hi James, I think it is absolutely AWESOME that you have your 9 year old daughter into the hobby! That kind of enthusiasm cant' be bought for anything!! You daughter is a great ambassador for the hobby vs the old crusty farts with the negative comments. Fortunately, they are few and far between. Hiram had a couple of different implements for dealing with likes of the old fart contingent, they would do well to review those instruments prior to making inane comments attacking 9 year olds. Having worked a few satellites myself, I congratulate your daughter on working through the process and making contacts. Good Job!! 7 3 Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY Bend Oregon CN94 On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:33 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > We?re talking about a 9 year old girl who worked her tail off to learn the > material and earn her Technician license. She is now studying for her > General and learning Morse Code. She also likes to learn by doing. Hence, > she is making a few mistakes along the way as she operates. But, she > learns. I will leave it to Bob and Angus to figure out what she learned > about adults like them from reading these posts. (Yes, she does read them.) > > As her dad, I will call it as I see it. You?re both being bullies to a > little girl who is excited about her new hobby. Way to go. I hope that > you feel superior to her by setting the record straight that this wasn?t a > valid contact. > > She doesn?t really care about the grids or the contests or the awards. > She simply likes talking to people on the radio and figuring out where her > signal went. She likes to go to public places to operate because people > ask questions and she gets to tell them how fun Ham Radio is. This time, > the recording got covered up by someone asking a question. She is a little > girl who was excited that she spoke to someone in Mexico via Ham Radio. > Bob and Angus, you have dashed the excitement. Well done. > > She bounced back, though? She determined on her own that if she is ever > in a grid that you need, she isn?t going to give it to you. (Grids are so > important, aren?t they?) > > Heck, she is speaking about satellite ops at the Dayton Youth Forum next > year. Maybe you might make it into her speech. > > > > > On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, John Geiger wrote: > > > > Sked QSOs do count for awards. Done all of the time for EME and meteor > > scatter QSOs. > > > > John AF5CC > > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus wrote: > > > >> Bob is completely correct. > >> > >> It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what > >> equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to > stand > >> next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the > callsign > >> yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside > >> assistance are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count > >> either, for contests or awards. > >> > >> I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't want > >> to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I > >> want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But facts > >> are facts. > >> > >> Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there. > >> > >> On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > >> > >>> OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on > the > >>> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. > I am > >>> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 > year > >>> old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios > and an > >>> antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby > >>> altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can > >>> belittle my daughter to her face. > >>> > >>> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the > >>> recording. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. > >>>> > >>>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to > >>>> give you a call. > >>>> > >>>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator > covered > >>>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? > >>>> > >>>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing > >>>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. > >>>> > >>>> Steve AI9IN > >>>> > >>>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Basic concept.... > >>>>> > >>>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact > !!! > >>>>> > >>>>> BOB KO6TZ > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>>> Opinions expressed > >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >>>>> of AMSAT-NA. > >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>>>> program! > >>>>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>>> [1] > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Links: > >>>> ------ > >>>> [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>> Opinions expressed > >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >>>> AMSAT-NA. > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>>> program! > >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>> Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >>> AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Gus 8P6SM > >> The Easternmost Isle > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > >> expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From electricity440 at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 21:47:42 2015 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler Fennell) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:47:42 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes Message-ID: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> I have been very bad at making satellite contacts recently. The main reason is because they aren't at a specific time every day/week and I don't look for passes very often. When I do search for passes, I am busy during the pass or don't have enough time to prep for a pass in 10 minutes. In addition, I can only work FM, so there aren't many sats (like one) Has anybody ever found something to get notified when a pass is coming up (maybe in the next few hours or so) via text message or email or something else? Thanks, Skyler KD0WHB From jim at k6ccc.org Mon Aug 24 21:49:46 2015 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:49:46 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes In-Reply-To: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> References: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f04745936f24740982dcc9a2572695d@k6ccc.org> Sure. If you carry a smartphone or PDA that has a calendar, create a calendar event with a reminder a few minutes in advance. Jim - K6CCC ---------------------------------------- From: "Skyler Fennell" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:48 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes I have been very bad at making satellite contacts recently. The main reason is because they aren't at a specific time every day/week and I don't look for passes very often. When I do search for passes, I am busy during the pass or don't have enough time to prep for a pass in 10 minutes. In addition, I can only work FM, so there aren't many sats (like one) Has anybody ever found something to get notified when a pass is coming up (maybe in the next few hours or so) via text message or email or something else? Thanks, Skyler KD0WHB _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From electricity440 at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 21:51:27 2015 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler Fennell) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:51:27 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes In-Reply-To: <1f04745936f24740982dcc9a2572695d@k6ccc.org> References: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> <1f04745936f24740982dcc9a2572695d@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: <97930672-D883-425D-950F-307995884C88@gmail.com> I was thinking automatic but that works too hi > On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Jim Walls wrote: > > Sure. If you carry a smartphone or PDA that has a calendar, create a calendar event with a reminder a few minutes in advance. > > Jim - K6CCC > > > > > From: "Skyler Fennell" > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:48 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes > > I have been very bad at making satellite contacts recently. The main reason is because they aren't at a specific time every day/week and I don't look for passes very often. When I do search for passes, I am busy during the pass or don't have enough time to prep for a pass in 10 minutes. In addition, I can only work FM, so there aren't many sats (like one) > > Has anybody ever found something to get notified when a pass is coming up (maybe in the next few hours or so) via text message or email or something else? > > Thanks, > Skyler KD0WHB > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From va6bmj at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 21:56:44 2015 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:56:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes In-Reply-To: <1f04745936f24740982dcc9a2572695d@k6ccc.org> References: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> <1f04745936f24740982dcc9a2572695d@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: On 8/24/15, Jim Walls wrote: > Sure. If you carry a smartphone or PDA that has a calendar, create a > calendar event with a reminder a few minutes in advance. > Every few days, I print out the next 50 passes for the various satellite I'm interested in and I load them into a database. Each day, I spend a few minutes updating my computer's calendar. Whenever a pass is coming up, I have enough notice that I can set up my station on my balcony. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Mon Aug 24 22:07:55 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:07:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes In-Reply-To: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> References: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> Message-ID: <028A6432-017A-414A-B5B8-F70F86F0BBD3@mindspring.com> I set alarms on my phone with the satellite name and if there is a particular station I am looking for, that is added as well. 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2015, at 17:47, Skyler Fennell wrote: > > I have been very bad at making satellite contacts recently. The main reason is because they aren't at a specific time every day/week and I don't look for passes very often. When I do search for passes, I am busy during the pass or don't have enough time to prep for a pass in 10 minutes. In addition, I can only work FM, so there aren't many sats (like one) > > Has anybody ever found something to get notified when a pass is coming up (maybe in the next few hours or so) via text message or email or something else? > > Thanks, > Skyler KD0WHB > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar Mon Aug 24 22:56:26 2015 From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (LW8EXS) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:56:26 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] report rx NO-84 Message-ID: <2157C56D575E47A1B1A1A30D85FBC6A5@PC1> 22:18 UTC 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [19:18:19R] T#565,869,074,525,848,820,00011100 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [19:18:56R] !54 . N\111 . ES090/999/W3ADO s#013924,0z290 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [19:20:21R] T#567,867,073,523,852,818,00011100 73s LW8EXS Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kk5do at amsat.org Mon Aug 24 23:05:52 2015 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:05:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes In-Reply-To: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> References: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55DBA350.4080800@amsat.org> on an iphone, the pxsat app will allow you to select a particular satellite and then set reminders automatically for the pass of your choosing when you look at the upcoming list. on the main screen, click on the gear, then click on the I (for information on that satellite) that you want to see passes for. then tap each pass you want to be notified about. you can then click on the gear in the lower right (param) and set the pass notifications margin for 30 seconds, 1 minute, 2 minutes or 5 minutes. i don't think a one hour before the pass is useful. that would be like letting you know the day before there will be 3 passes tomorrow. you will be busy or forget when that hour comes up. maybe a combination of using the calendar to notify you an hour before and the the tracking app notifying you 5 minutes before would be a good combination. 73...bruce On 8/24/2015 4:47 PM, Skyler Fennell wrote: > I have been very bad at making satellite contacts recently. The main reason is because they aren't at a specific time every day/week and I don't look for passes very often. When I do search for passes, I am busy during the pass or don't have enough time to prep for a pass in 10 minutes. In addition, I can only work FM, so there aren't many sats (like one) > > Has anybody ever found something to get notified when a pass is coming up (maybe in the next few hours or so) via text message or email or something else? > > Thanks, > Skyler KD0WHB > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From Mvivona at yahoo.com Mon Aug 24 23:16:06 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:16:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> Message-ID: <2E700601-9F6A-47A0-90D6-D39A1609D3CC@yahoo.com> Well said Jeff, I can't wait to hear your awesome daughter on the bird again James. You are a blessed Dad to have a youngster interested in Amateur Radio these days with all the outside distractions. I bet you are immensely proud of her. Keep up the good work and pretend the QRM isn't there. They will quietly go away. Michael/KC4ZVA Sent from my iPad On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Jeff Moore wrote: Hi James, I think it is absolutely AWESOME that you have your 9 year old daughter into the hobby! That kind of enthusiasm cant' be bought for anything!! You daughter is a great ambassador for the hobby vs the old crusty farts with the negative comments. Fortunately, they are few and far between. Hiram had a couple of different implements for dealing with likes of the old fart contingent, they would do well to review those instruments prior to making inane comments attacking 9 year olds. Having worked a few satellites myself, I congratulate your daughter on working through the process and making contacts. Good Job!! 7 3 Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY Bend Oregon CN94 > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:33 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > > We?re talking about a 9 year old girl who worked her tail off to learn the > material and earn her Technician license. She is now studying for her > General and learning Morse Code. She also likes to learn by doing. Hence, > she is making a few mistakes along the way as she operates. But, she > learns. I will leave it to Bob and Angus to figure out what she learned > about adults like them from reading these posts. (Yes, she does read them.) > > As her dad, I will call it as I see it. You?re both being bullies to a > little girl who is excited about her new hobby. Way to go. I hope that > you feel superior to her by setting the record straight that this wasn?t a > valid contact. > > She doesn?t really care about the grids or the contests or the awards. > She simply likes talking to people on the radio and figuring out where her > signal went. She likes to go to public places to operate because people > ask questions and she gets to tell them how fun Ham Radio is. This time, > the recording got covered up by someone asking a question. She is a little > girl who was excited that she spoke to someone in Mexico via Ham Radio. > Bob and Angus, you have dashed the excitement. Well done. > > She bounced back, though? She determined on her own that if she is ever > in a grid that you need, she isn?t going to give it to you. (Grids are so > important, aren?t they?) > > Heck, she is speaking about satellite ops at the Dayton Youth Forum next > year. Maybe you might make it into her speech. > > > >> On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, John Geiger wrote: >> >> Sked QSOs do count for awards. Done all of the time for EME and meteor >> scatter QSOs. >> >> John AF5CC >> >>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus wrote: >>> >>> Bob is completely correct. >>> >>> It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what >>> equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to > stand >>> next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the > callsign >>> yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside >>> assistance are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count >>> either, for contests or awards. >>> >>> I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't want >>> to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I >>> want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But facts >>> are facts. >>> >>> Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there. >>> >>>> On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: >>>> >>>> OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on > the >>>> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. > I am >>>> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 > year >>>> old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios > and an >>>> antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby >>>> altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can >>>> belittle my daughter to her face. >>>> >>>> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the >>>> recording. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. >>>>> >>>>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to >>>>> give you a call. >>>>> >>>>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator > covered >>>>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? >>>>> >>>>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing >>>>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. >>>>> >>>>> Steve AI9IN >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Basic concept.... >>>>>> >>>>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact > !!! >>>>>> >>>>>> BOB KO6TZ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k7trkradio at charter.net Mon Aug 24 23:29:38 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:29:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software In-Reply-To: <5245b13e387d33207934eaf575961fd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1501701952.2923453.1437000085467.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5245b13e387d33207934eaf575961fd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002101d0dec4$bee2b830$3ca82890$@charter.net> Just curious...why do we not refer to this sat as NO-84? Seems to me that consistency is the best way to go 73, ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:17 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software PSAT seems to be returning to good health. We will keep the digipeater off, but will now announce it is safe to resume PSK31 experiments. Remember, when we ran out of power, great progress had been made with Andy's pre-compensating PSK31 uplink software (below). Here also are the latest elements for PSAT: PSAT 1 90720U 15234.36512451 +.00008395 +00000-0 +21488-3 0 0099 2 90720 054.9897 293.1329 0244566 052.6872 309.6216 15.1526532401420 When PSAT-1 is using the PSAT-1 callsign, that means the digipeater is off. But as of now, PSK31 experimentation is authorized. 28.120 PSK31 uplink and 435.350 FM downlink. Bob, WB4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of aflowers at frontiernet.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:41 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software I put together an experimental program called DopplerPSK to compensate for the Doppler shift on the NO-84 (or NO-83) PSK31 uplink. In essence, its a PSK31 transmitter that is merged with an orbital propagator to cause your transmitted signal to drift exactly opposite to uplink Doppler effect. It does this in a phase-continuous correction so that you don't get errors due to discontinuous frequency adjustments from controlling a radio in discrete steps. In the case of PSAT and BricSat, it should cause your signal to stay at constant frequency in the satellite's uplink receiver, and thus you should get a stable frequency on the FM downlink as well. In turn, this means you should be able to use your favorite PSK31 demodulating software to copy the downlink since the frequency drift should stay well within the AFC tolerance of the software. Anyway, if there are any adventurous people who are set up to give this a go, I would be interested in seeing if it actually works. You can find a rough quick-start guide (which contains an explanation of how it works and what you need to get started) and the application package on the rather minimalist page here: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/dopplerpsk/dopplerpsk.html It's an experiment, so be prepared for disappointment. I am :-) Andy K0SM/2 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wb3csy at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 23:52:05 2015 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:52:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB Message-ID: I know most of the AMSAT operation is done by volunteers. I also have wondered why some posts for satellite passes seem to be very close or even after the pass occurred. What is the average time between someone sending a post and when it actually appears on the BB? I sent a congratulatory message to the AMSAT team who produce the Journal as well as commenting on the content. I also mentioned getting my AMSAT Journal in the mail today to allow members to know it will be arriving soon. That post was sent at 2:46 PM EDT today.I BCC it to myself. It showed up in 5 seconds. Five hours later, I still do not see it listed on the AMSAT BB. I can see why some posts seem to be at the last minute before something happens that may be of interest to most of us. I'm not complaining, I just wonder if we need to post about 12 hours before something will actually happen. Thanks, Rick WB3CSY -- Sent from Rick's gmail account From k9jkm at comcast.net Mon Aug 24 23:58:48 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:58:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009a01d0dec8$d19b8480$74d28d80$@net> Hi Rick, Your first message about receiving the AMSAT Journal arrived via my Comcast e-mail at Mon 8/24/2015 1:47 PM according to the time stamp. Throughput on the modernized AMSAT e-mail on our leased servers is usually within minutes. The vintage e-mail on a university server used to take longer. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Rick > Walter > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 6:52 PM > To: amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB > > I know most of the AMSAT operation is done by volunteers. I also have > wondered why some posts for satellite passes seem to be very close or > even > after the pass occurred. What is the average time between someone > sending a > post and when it actually appears on the BB? I sent a congratulatory > message to the AMSAT team who produce the Journal as well as commenting > on > the content. I also mentioned getting my AMSAT Journal in the mail today > to > allow members to know it will be arriving soon. That post was sent at > 2:46 > PM EDT today.I BCC it to myself. It showed up in 5 seconds. Five hours > later, I still do not see it listed on the AMSAT BB. I can see why some > posts seem to be at the last minute before something happens that may be > of > interest to most of us. I'm not complaining, I just wonder if we need to > post about 12 hours before something will actually happen. > Thanks, > Rick WB3CSY > -- > Sent from Rick's gmail account > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From steve.w5iem at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 00:04:00 2015 From: steve.w5iem at gmail.com (Steve May) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:04:00 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes In-Reply-To: <55DBA350.4080800@amsat.org> References: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> <55DBA350.4080800@amsat.org> Message-ID: I have a spreadsheet that I have used in the past to import pass data into a Google Calendar. That calendar had specific alerts for the passes. But, after finding the ISS Detector app for Android I never use the old method because ISS Detector automatically updates depending on my location. Steve, W5IEM On Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 7:06 PM Bruce wrote: > on an iphone, the pxsat app will allow you to select a particular > satellite and then set reminders automatically for the pass of your > choosing when you look at the upcoming list. on the main screen, click > on the gear, then click on the I (for information on that satellite) > that you want to see passes for. then tap each pass you want to be > notified about. you can then click on the gear in the lower right > (param) and set the pass notifications margin for 30 seconds, 1 minute, > 2 minutes or 5 minutes. i don't think a one hour before the pass is > useful. that would be like letting you know the day before there will be > 3 passes tomorrow. you will be busy or forget when that hour comes up. > maybe a combination of using the calendar to notify you an hour before > and the the tracking app notifying you 5 minutes before would be a good > combination. > > 73...bruce > > On 8/24/2015 4:47 PM, Skyler Fennell wrote: > > I have been very bad at making satellite contacts recently. The main > reason is because they aren't at a specific time every day/week and I don't > look for passes very often. When I do search for passes, I am busy during > the pass or don't have enough time to prep for a pass in 10 minutes. In > addition, I can only work FM, so there aren't many sats (like one) > > > > Has anybody ever found something to get notified when a pass is coming > up (maybe in the next few hours or so) via text message or email or > something else? > > > > Thanks, > > Skyler KD0WHB > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > -- > > Bruce Paige, KK5DO > > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards > > ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE > > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* > Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com > Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes > > Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News > http://www.arrl.org > > AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From af5cc2 at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 00:16:52 2015 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:16:52 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <2E700601-9F6A-47A0-90D6-D39A1609D3CC@yahoo.com> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> <2E700601-9F6A-47A0-90D6-D39A1609D3CC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Not to stir the pot anymore (too late for that) but I don't think that one of the initial replies was really mean spirited or anything like that. He was simply mentioning a rule/tradition that has been in place in ham radio since the dawn of radio-that at least 1 piece of information needs to be accurately received by each operator in order for it to count as a valid contact. No where in the initial message did it say that a 9 year old girl was involved, and even if it did, that doesn't change the reality of things. Isn't it wonderful how we now attack the person who pointed that out with namecalling and "agism" remarks just because some didn't like what he said. I sure how in the future we don't set aside FCC rules just so we don't crush the spirit of some young ham (Flameproof suit now on) 73 John AF5CC On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Well said Jeff, > > I can't wait to hear your awesome daughter on the bird again James. You > are a blessed Dad to have a youngster interested in Amateur Radio these > days with all the outside distractions. I bet you are immensely proud of > her. > Keep up the good work and pretend the QRM isn't there. They will quietly > go away. > > Michael/KC4ZVA > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Jeff Moore wrote: > > Hi James, > > I think it is absolutely AWESOME that you have your 9 year old daughter > into the hobby! That kind of enthusiasm cant' be bought for anything!! > You daughter is a great ambassador for the hobby vs the old crusty farts > with the negative comments. Fortunately, they are few and far between. > Hiram had a couple of different implements for dealing with likes of the > old fart contingent, they would do well to review those instruments prior > to making inane comments attacking 9 year olds. > > Having worked a few satellites myself, I congratulate your daughter on > working through the process and making contacts. Good Job!! > > 7 3 > Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY > Bend Oregon > CN94 > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:33 AM, James Lea - WX4TV > wrote: > > > > We?re talking about a 9 year old girl who worked her tail off to learn > the > > material and earn her Technician license. She is now studying for her > > General and learning Morse Code. She also likes to learn by doing. > Hence, > > she is making a few mistakes along the way as she operates. But, she > > learns. I will leave it to Bob and Angus to figure out what she learned > > about adults like them from reading these posts. (Yes, she does read > them.) > > > > As her dad, I will call it as I see it. You?re both being bullies to a > > little girl who is excited about her new hobby. Way to go. I hope that > > you feel superior to her by setting the record straight that this > wasn?t a > > valid contact. > > > > She doesn?t really care about the grids or the contests or the awards. > > She simply likes talking to people on the radio and figuring out where > her > > signal went. She likes to go to public places to operate because people > > ask questions and she gets to tell them how fun Ham Radio is. This time, > > the recording got covered up by someone asking a question. She is a > little > > girl who was excited that she spoke to someone in Mexico via Ham Radio. > > Bob and Angus, you have dashed the excitement. Well done. > > > > She bounced back, though? She determined on her own that if she is ever > > in a grid that you need, she isn?t going to give it to you. (Grids are > so > > important, aren?t they?) > > > > Heck, she is speaking about satellite ops at the Dayton Youth Forum next > > year. Maybe you might make it into her speech. > > > > > > > >> On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, John Geiger wrote: > >> > >> Sked QSOs do count for awards. Done all of the time for EME and meteor > >> scatter QSOs. > >> > >> John AF5CC > >> > >>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus wrote: > >>> > >>> Bob is completely correct. > >>> > >>> It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what > >>> equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to > > stand > >>> next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the > > callsign > >>> yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside > >>> assistance are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count > >>> either, for contests or awards. > >>> > >>> I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't > want > >>> to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I > >>> want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But > facts > >>> are facts. > >>> > >>> Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there. > >>> > >>>> On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > >>>> > >>>> OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on > > the > >>>> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. > > I am > >>>> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 > > year > >>>> old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios > > and an > >>>> antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby > >>>> altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can > >>>> belittle my daughter to her face. > >>>> > >>>> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the > >>>> recording. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. > >>>>> > >>>>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to > >>>>> give you a call. > >>>>> > >>>>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator > > covered > >>>>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? > >>>>> > >>>>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing > >>>>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve AI9IN > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Basic concept.... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact > > !!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> BOB KO6TZ > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available > >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>>>> Opinions expressed > >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views > >>>>>> of AMSAT-NA. > >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>>>>> program! > >>>>>> Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>>>> [1] > >>>>> > >>>>> Links: > >>>>> ------ > >>>>> [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>>> Opinions expressed > >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > > of > >>>>> AMSAT-NA. > >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>>>> program! > >>>>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>> Opinions expressed > >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > > of > >>>> AMSAT-NA. > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Gus 8P6SM > >>> The Easternmost Isle > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions > >>> expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >>> AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From james at wx4tv.com Tue Aug 25 00:35:00 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:35:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <55DB3F5F.4000206@8p6sm.net> <2E700601-9F6A-47A0-90D6-D39A1609D3CC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well then, I will extend the olive branch. I apologize for flaming. Understand that I was defending my very hurt little girl. Hope is rather well known on the bird as being a very young girl. She DID get his callsign and his grid on the beach. She did not remember it when it came time to log the QSO. With time and practice, she will learn how to listen and write the information rather than to store it in her short term memory with the assumption that she will be able to get it from the recording. How many of us use recorders to help with logging? I simply asked on the reflector if someone recorded it so she could write it down in her logbook. The reply was "If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact!!!? Not anywhere did I say that she did not copy the call sign. She read the reply and said, ?I did copy the callsign, but I don?t remember it.? The original reply from KO6TZ crushed the spirit of a little girl. The question asked on the reflector did not warrant the harsh response, regardless of the age of the operator involved. No, age does not change the reality of things. But, I did write in the original message,"Thanks for everyone who bears with all of the kids as they learn how to be good operators! This pass was a great learning experience to explain how some people are lids and that it is illegal to key up your mic and whistle on the radio. The youngest wonders why someone would spend so much money and time to make a satellite station and then just try to jam people. She is very observant.? Nowhere did I say that the FCC rules should be set aside for kids. In fact, I wrote that the pass was a learning experience for the kids because of the malicious interference. Ham Radio is supposed to be fun and exciting. Perhaps more operators should remember that. James - WX4TV > On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:16 PM, John Geiger wrote: > > Not to stir the pot anymore (too late for that) but I don't think that one > of the initial replies was really mean spirited or anything like that. He > was simply mentioning a rule/tradition that has been in place in ham radio > since the dawn of radio-that at least 1 piece of information needs to be > accurately received by each operator in order for it to count as a valid > contact. > > No where in the initial message did it say that a 9 year old girl was > involved, and even if it did, that doesn't change the reality of things. > > Isn't it wonderful how we now attack the person who pointed that out with > namecalling and "agism" remarks just because some didn't like what he said. > > I sure how in the future we don't set aside FCC rules just so we don't > crush the spirit of some young ham > > (Flameproof suit now on) > > 73 John AF5CC > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> Well said Jeff, >> >> I can't wait to hear your awesome daughter on the bird again James. You >> are a blessed Dad to have a youngster interested in Amateur Radio these >> days with all the outside distractions. I bet you are immensely proud of >> her. >> Keep up the good work and pretend the QRM isn't there. They will quietly >> go away. >> >> Michael/KC4ZVA >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Jeff Moore wrote: >> >> Hi James, >> >> I think it is absolutely AWESOME that you have your 9 year old daughter >> into the hobby! That kind of enthusiasm cant' be bought for anything!! >> You daughter is a great ambassador for the hobby vs the old crusty farts >> with the negative comments. Fortunately, they are few and far between. >> Hiram had a couple of different implements for dealing with likes of the >> old fart contingent, they would do well to review those instruments prior >> to making inane comments attacking 9 year olds. >> >> Having worked a few satellites myself, I congratulate your daughter on >> working through the process and making contacts. Good Job!! >> >> 7 3 >> Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY >> Bend Oregon >> CN94 >> >>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:33 AM, James Lea - WX4TV >> wrote: >>> >>> We?re talking about a 9 year old girl who worked her tail off to learn >> the >>> material and earn her Technician license. She is now studying for her >>> General and learning Morse Code. She also likes to learn by doing. >> Hence, >>> she is making a few mistakes along the way as she operates. But, she >>> learns. I will leave it to Bob and Angus to figure out what she learned >>> about adults like them from reading these posts. (Yes, she does read >> them.) >>> >>> As her dad, I will call it as I see it. You?re both being bullies to a >>> little girl who is excited about her new hobby. Way to go. I hope that >>> you feel superior to her by setting the record straight that this >> wasn?t a >>> valid contact. >>> >>> She doesn?t really care about the grids or the contests or the awards. >>> She simply likes talking to people on the radio and figuring out where >> her >>> signal went. She likes to go to public places to operate because people >>> ask questions and she gets to tell them how fun Ham Radio is. This time, >>> the recording got covered up by someone asking a question. She is a >> little >>> girl who was excited that she spoke to someone in Mexico via Ham Radio. >>> Bob and Angus, you have dashed the excitement. Well done. >>> >>> She bounced back, though? She determined on her own that if she is ever >>> in a grid that you need, she isn?t going to give it to you. (Grids are >> so >>> important, aren?t they?) >>> >>> Heck, she is speaking about satellite ops at the Dayton Youth Forum next >>> year. Maybe you might make it into her speech. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, John Geiger wrote: >>>> >>>> Sked QSOs do count for awards. Done all of the time for EME and meteor >>>> scatter QSOs. >>>> >>>> John AF5CC >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Bob is completely correct. >>>>> >>>>> It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what >>>>> equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to >>> stand >>>>> next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the >>> callsign >>>>> yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside >>>>> assistance are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count >>>>> either, for contests or awards. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't >> want >>>>> to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I >>>>> want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But >> facts >>>>> are facts. >>>>> >>>>> Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there. >>>>> >>>>>> On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, Bob? I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on >>> the >>>>>> beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording. >>> I am >>>>>> so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9 >>> year >>>>>> old wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios >>> and an >>>>>> antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby >>>>>> altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can >>>>>> belittle my daughter to her face. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the >>>>>> recording. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to >>>>>>> give you a call. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator >>> covered >>>>>>> the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing >>>>>>> ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve AI9IN >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basic concept.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact >>> !!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BOB KO6TZ >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>>> program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>>> Opinions expressed >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> of >>>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gus 8P6SM >>>>> The Easternmost Isle >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From scott.xot at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 00:55:20 2015 From: scott.xot at gmail.com (Scott Richardson) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:55:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> Message-ID: <232A2018-E15E-4567-B5DE-5854913EBAA4@gmail.com> > wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an antenna. When I started out, it took me only one or two passes to realize I needed a tripod. I know I'm not the only one to have cobbled together a frame that mounts on a tripod and holds the antenna, two radios, a timepiece, and operating aids. Seven years later, this system is still working great. Call me old fashioned, but a pad and pencil are indispensable for my operations. I usually note several callsigns and grid squares before making any calls, and if someone not on my list calls me, I'm quick to write their call down. This method requires no extra wires and no batteries, while creating a record that's easy to reference both during and after the pass. It's a rare occasion that I want to listen to an SO-50 pass again after getting through it "live." 73, Scott N1AIA From james at wx4tv.com Tue Aug 25 01:23:02 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:23:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: <232A2018-E15E-4567-B5DE-5854913EBAA4@gmail.com> References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <232A2018-E15E-4567-B5DE-5854913EBAA4@gmail.com> Message-ID: She used to use a tripod and will probably use it again in the future. This worked very well, but she wanted to try another way. I believe that kids learn by making mistakes. Trying to hand hold the antenna and radios is a mistake! She will learn. The big issue with writing call signs for her is that she is still learning to write. Remember, she is a very young kid. As her writing improves, she will be able to do the paper method. All in time. Thanks and 73, James > On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Scott Richardson wrote: > >> wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an antenna. > > When I started out, it took me only one or two passes to realize I needed a tripod. I know I'm not the only one to have cobbled together a frame that mounts on a tripod and holds the antenna, two radios, a timepiece, and operating aids. Seven years later, this system is still working great. > > Call me old fashioned, but a pad and pencil are indispensable for my operations. I usually note several callsigns and grid squares before making any calls, and if someone not on my list calls me, I'm quick to write their call down. This method requires no extra wires and no batteries, while creating a record that's easy to reference both during and after the pass. It's a rare occasion that I want to listen to an SO-50 pass again after getting through it "live." > > 73, Scott N1AIA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mccardelm at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 01:51:28 2015 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (EMike McCardel) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:51:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F6C3BFF-1B0D-4EF7-81F7-FC9F4C5D5D71@gmail.com> Rick, I could be mistaken, but, I thought that emails you send to the list aren't reflected back to you. You should however get a notice that it was received to the BB. If you ever wonder you can check the archive: http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/ 73, EMike EMike McCardel, KC8YLD VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Rick Walter wrote: > > I know most of the AMSAT operation is done by volunteers. I also have > wondered why some posts for satellite passes seem to be very close or even > after the pass occurred. What is the average time between someone sending a > post and when it actually appears on the BB? I sent a congratulatory > message to the AMSAT team who produce the Journal as well as commenting on > the content. I also mentioned getting my AMSAT Journal in the mail today to > allow members to know it will be arriving soon. That post was sent at 2:46 > PM EDT today.I BCC it to myself. It showed up in 5 seconds. Five hours > later, I still do not see it listed on the AMSAT BB. I can see why some > posts seem to be at the last minute before something happens that may be of > interest to most of us. I'm not complaining, I just wonder if we need to > post about 12 hours before something will actually happen. > Thanks, > Rick WB3CSY > -- > Sent from Rick's gmail account > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Tue Aug 25 02:03:37 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:03:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: <0F6C3BFF-1B0D-4EF7-81F7-FC9F4C5D5D71@gmail.com> References: <0F6C3BFF-1B0D-4EF7-81F7-FC9F4C5D5D71@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a501d0deda$41e926a0$c5bb73e0$@net> Rick mentioned: > I BCC it to myself. It showed up in 5 seconds. Five hours > later, I still do not see it listed on the AMSAT BB. OK, EMike rang a bell :-) The list won't duplicate messages. The settings assumed you already received the message with your BCC. Try it without the BCC on your next message and you should see your messages shortly afterward. There is a Mailman setting for NODUP for all subscribers. The timing of the message actually appearing for you also depends on local settings. I use MS-Office Outlook for my primary e-mail. My Outlook settings are to check for new mail every 300 seconds (5 minutes). So a message actually arriving would be sometime in that 5 minute window depending on the time in the receive window when I sent the message. I use Gmail on my Android tablet and it usually receives messages sooner mostly because it is not likely waiting for the 5 minute receive window as in my Outlook settings. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of EMike > McCardel > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:51 PM > To: Rick Walter > Cc: amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB > > Rick, > > I could be mistaken, but, I thought that emails you send to the list > aren't reflected back to you. You should however get a notice that it > was received to the BB. If you ever wonder you can check the archive: > http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/ > > 73, > EMike > > EMike McCardel, KC8YLD > VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA From mvivona at yahoo.com Tue Aug 25 02:32:53 2015 From: mvivona at yahoo.com (mvivona at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 02:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable rotator In-Reply-To: <55DB5415.3000407@gmail.com> References: <55DB5415.3000407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <229136038.2460.1440469973110.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Bill, Nice job on the rotor.I also am building a similar lightweight?PTZ rotor. It's very similar to yours. See my?video of?where?I'm at with it.?This is part-1.?I should have?version-2?done soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00SW1ExS2es&feature=player_embedded Michael/KC4ZVA From: Bill Attwood To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable rotator Hi all, I posted a little too soon about my rotator "blog" on Friday - I've since cleaned up the post and added some high resolution pics (plus a short video). If you'd like to take another boo here's the link again: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=118737 It would be great to get some comments and thoughts (critical ones welcome!) in the Pi forum. 73, Bill VE6WK --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Tue Aug 25 02:39:25 2015 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:39:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55DBD55D.3060808@alum.wpi.edu> On 8/24/2015 7:52 PM, Rick Walter wrote: > What is the average time between someone sending a > post and when it actually appears on the BB? When a message "appears on the BB" has a couple of different answers. Your note "appeared" via the web interface a few seconds before 2:47 PM EDT today http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-August/054624.html Google's mail server accepted the remailed message from amsat-bb to wb3csy at gmail.com at 2:47:12 EDT. Once Gmail accepted the message, that is the last I can see of it from the logs on our mail server. I don't know when it "appeared" in your in your inbox. Google does strange and mysterious things* to protect its users from spam, perhaps they are using some new method that results in delivery delays that can't be observed from the sending mail server. Rick, thanks for this report. I'll see if there is anything I can do to improve delivery from our end. -Joe KM1P AMSAT Electronic Services *Sometimes our mail server is "greylisted" by Google. Greylisting is a spam control method where mail is temporarily rejected on the theory that spammers usually don't attempt periodic retries to a temporary delivery failure like legitimate mail senders do. It is not clear why we are put on Google's greylist (or how we get off of it), but that does not appear to be what happened here since they accepted the remailed message right away. From gkcarr at go-express.net Tue Aug 25 02:50:23 2015 From: gkcarr at go-express.net (gkcarr at go-express.net) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:50:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <232A2018-E15E-4567-B5DE-5854913EBAA4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1440471023.954128062@webmail.goexpress.us> Early in my USA hamsat days, I had an Icom W32A, Arrow and paper/pencil. I operated the radios, my xyl the logging and 16 yr old daughter the rotating! A family affair! The two ladies did not miss the mosquitoes during evening passes when I upgraded to the in shack radios and Yaesu 5400 rotor! 73 George WA5KBH -----Original Message----- From: "James Lea - WX4TV" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 20:23 To: "Scott Richardson" Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z She used to use a tripod and will probably use it again in the future. This worked very well, but she wanted to try another way. I believe that kids learn by making mistakes. Trying to hand hold the antenna and radios is a mistake! She will learn. The big issue with writing call signs for her is that she is still learning to write. Remember, she is a very young kid. As her writing improves, she will be able to do the paper method. All in time. Thanks and 73, James > On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Scott Richardson wrote: > >> wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an antenna. > > When I started out, it took me only one or two passes to realize I needed a tripod. I know I'm not the only one to have cobbled together a frame that mounts on a tripod and holds the antenna, two radios, a timepiece, and operating aids. Seven years later, this system is still working great. > > Call me old fashioned, but a pad and pencil are indispensable for my operations. I usually note several callsigns and grid squares before making any calls, and if someone not on my list calls me, I'm quick to write their call down. This method requires no extra wires and no batteries, while creating a record that's easy to reference both during and after the pass. It's a rare occasion that I want to listen to an SO-50 pass again after getting through it "live." > > 73, Scott N1AIA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at druidnetworks.com Tue Aug 25 02:50:30 2015 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (Dave Swanson) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:50:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z In-Reply-To: References: <30C98CDB-6AC2-4813-B69A-A27423906B39@wx4tv.com> <55DB2947.3000209@verizon.net> <232A2018-E15E-4567-B5DE-5854913EBAA4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55DBD7F6.6090106@druidnetworks.com> I'll throw in my .02 since the conversation has moved into a domain that I have some experience with. I've experimented with varying ways of holding antennae, holding radios, holding hand mics, writing stuff down, and tuning two knobs for doppler... As I, like most of my fellow humans, lacked the required 5 arms to hold everything, it was miserable. I tried a tripod only to be unhappy with the reception, since I couldn't twist for polarity on the fly. I got a voice recorder, but had the exact same thing happen as ya'll did, although usually it was with cars, sirens, or low flying airplanes blasting out the microphone. I was basically where she was at... so let me, if I may be so bold, throw some pointers her way. 1. Get a headset and foot pedal. These things will run some cash, but they're worth their weight in gold. Being able to hear the bird in your headphones, blocking out the ambient noise is huge, and having the microphone in front of your mouth all the time maximizes your modulation of the transmitted signal. I got the Heil Micro Pro, and the FS-3 foot pedal, but anything like these will work. Get whatever adapter is required for whatever radio you're using to make them work. This will solve several problems in one foul swoop, and free up a couple of the 5 hands required. 2. Find a fixed place to put your radio. I *think* Hope is still using an HT, or a combination of HT's for her contacts. When I first started on SO50 I was building cheap Yagi's for reception, and attaching my HT right to the antennae itself with some zip ties. This had the dual effect of minimizing my coax run, and freeing up yet another hand from holding my radio. When I needed to shift for doppler, my free hand reached to the radio on the beam, flicked a switch, and went right back to it. Later on when I upgraded to the linear birds, and bigger radios, I bought one of those little cheap folding tables at home depot for 20 bucks, and just carried it around in the Jeep with me. Having some place to put the radios is big. With HT's, even something like a backpack that has a strap across your chest is a great place to attach it, and keep it close and accessible, without requiring another hand to hold. 3. Get tons of audio adapters. I like other people to be able to hear what I'm doing.. I also want to hear things clearly... I also want to record the pass without interference... these 3 wants typically exceed the audio output of most radios. So, get a splitter, a recorder, a volume attenuator, and an external speaker... or some combination of everything. I will, at max, run a 3-way audio splitter, plug in my headphones to one, plug in a speaker to another - with a long audio cable away from me to eliminate any feedback, and a volume attenuator feeding my voice recorder (because speaker output is typically too high for most "line-in" plugs on voice recorders) into the third. It's a mess of cables, but it accomplishes accuracy, demonstration, and recording, all at the same time. 4. Write stuff down anyway. If I'm solo somewhere, no ones watching, and I'm not trying to set DX distance records, I usually don't even mess with my voice recorder. Even when I do, I've had it fail on me tons of times. Usually it's cause I'm a bonehead and forget to check the batteries first, but still the point is still valid. Practically before every pass I work, I jot down who I am (yes, I stumble over my own call sign sometimes...) where I'm at (especially useful if I'm somewhere other than home) the bird I'm working, the date, and the AOS and LOS times of the upcoming pass. That basically leaves me with callsign and grid, as the only two important things I *have* to record after each QSO. For bonus points, if I've got a sked with someone (the horror!) I'll pre-jot their callsign and grid down, and usually write 'Q' or put a check or something next to it when we've made the contact. Now, this DOES require a hand to write, but you've got the notepad on that fixed place you put your radio, so it should be a simple pen pick up, notate, and set back down... right? :D 5. Ditch the tripod, hold the antenna. This one I know will draw fire from some, but as an exclusively portable operator, I stand by it. The nerves transmit a signal to the muscles in a normal human's arm somewhere in the range of 200-220mph. This is a faster reaction time than any rotor I'm aware of, and it allows you to make hundreds (or thousands if you ever watch how twitchy I am) of corrections during a single pass. Do it enough, and you'll completely forget you're even moving the antenna, following its arc across the sky, and constantly twisting it for the best signal. Your ears will hear how strong the bird should be, and your arm will just react. I can't explain why or how, but it just will. In the month or so I used a tripod, I never got the hang of moving the Arrow, going back to transmitting, and remembering to move it again. A few weeks of holding my arrow and letting my ears be my guide, and it was like a 6th sense. And, as I mentioned to Sean KX9X recently after his roadtrip, holding an arrow for multiple passes for a couple straight weeks in a row, will make you a great arm wrestler. 6. Develop a system. This one kind of goes with the last two, but figure out how you want it all to go together, and get comfortable with it. Whether you're in the backyard, or on a mountain, set things up the same way, every time, and be able to do everything by reaction, instead of thinking about it. For example, I always setup so the bird I'm working will apex directly to the left of where I'm standing. I always hold my arrow in my left hand. My right hand does the radio manipulation, and quick note jotting. My right foot is always on the pedal. I always have my notepad immediately to the right of my radio. I have the radio at exactly the height level, and high enough I don't have to bend over. I color coded all my coax cables, I memorized where the step and channel lock buttons are, and can find them by feel. Working a pass anymore is just a reaction, I don't even really have to think about anything, I just set my phone on compass mode, watch the clock, and go. So this turned into a Novel, but I hope there's some good info she can use. I am an exclusively portable satellite operator, and plan to be for some time. I've ran into all these problems, and like to have think I've solved them. I also plan to pick your brain in about 8 years on how to teach my little girl, who (at 4 months old) really wants to figure out where those voices in the speaker of my 857 are coming from, effective ways to work the birds herself. 73! -Dave, KG5CCI On 8/24/2015 8:23 PM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > She used to use a tripod and will probably use it again in the future. This worked very well, but she wanted to try another way. I believe that kids learn by making mistakes. Trying to hand hold the antenna and radios is a mistake! She will learn. > > The big issue with writing call signs for her is that she is still learning to write. Remember, she is a very young kid. As her writing improves, she will be able to do the paper method. All in time. > > Thanks and 73, > > James > >> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Scott Richardson wrote: >> >>> wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an antenna. >> When I started out, it took me only one or two passes to realize I needed a tripod. I know I'm not the only one to have cobbled together a frame that mounts on a tripod and holds the antenna, two radios, a timepiece, and operating aids. Seven years later, this system is still working great. >> >> Call me old fashioned, but a pad and pencil are indispensable for my operations. I usually note several callsigns and grid squares before making any calls, and if someone not on my list calls me, I'm quick to write their call down. This method requires no extra wires and no batteries, while creating a record that's easy to reference both during and after the pass. It's a rare occasion that I want to listen to an SO-50 pass again after getting through it "live." >> >> 73, Scott N1AIA >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tjschuessler at verizon.net Tue Aug 25 03:44:24 2015 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:44:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] It wont be a satellite road trip, but..... Message-ID: <005501d0dee8$58bfad00$0a3f0700$@net> Hello all, My wife and I will be taking 5 days to drive a rental truck from DFW, North Texas to Boston to move daughter and new husband's stuff to their new home and law school. The type of truck and the logistics of the trip will not really work with casual satellite ops. Maybe someday. However, I would love to make terrestrial QSOs with some of you folks along the way as I will have a dual bander and a small antenna mounted to the truck. Would love to say hi on local repeaters along the way. Here is the route and rough projected time table. Friday, August 28th, Afternoon-evening. Dallas, Texarkana, Little Rock. Saturday, August 29th, Little Rock, Memphis, Nashville, Elizabethtown, KY, Springfield KY. Sunday, August 30th, Springfield, KY, Lexington, KY, Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland. Monday, August 31st, Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Schenectady. Tuesday, September 1st Albany Springfield, Boston. There might be some schedule flex, especially the last two days but that should be close. Contact me off list via my n5hyp at yahoo.com email with Callsign, city, repeater/s PL and other pertinent information. Perhaps we can exchange more than just a Grid Square. What a concept. 73 de N5HYP Tom Schuessler n5hyp at yahoo.com From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com Tue Aug 25 04:16:26 2015 From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference), Chicago, October 9 - 11, 2015 In-Reply-To: <1984969326.45180.1440474118535.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <160965141.18391.1440473404469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1984969326.45180.1440474118535.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1173164441.46219.1440476186206.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> 2015 ARRL/TAPR DCC?(Digital Communications Conference)? DoubleTree HotelArlington Heights, IL October 9 - 11, 2015? The Digital Communication Conference is the premiere annual Digital Conference?covering all Digital Modes & Techniques including Data, Voice & Television and SDR.?? The DCC has two full days of Technical presentations on Friday & Saturday, concurrent Introductory forums on Saturday,? a Saturday night Banquet with a Guest Speaker and a Sunday morning Seminar deep dive into a technical subject.? There are also Friday & Saturday Lunches and a Friday Night Social. ? Those who have submitted a Technical Paper to be included in the Conference Proceedings?have priority to present a presentation during the Technical Forums,?however if you didn't submit a technical paper and want to present a Technical or Introductory presentation?please contact the TAPR Office at:?https://www.tapr.org/inforequest.php The 2015 DCC will be held at the DoubleTree Hotel in Chicago northwest suburb of Arlington Heights?not far from O'Hare airport with a free hotel shuttle to O'Hare.? Be sure to register for the DCC and reserve your hotel room early. The DCC Early Bird Pre-Registration Discount ends on September 19th.? DCC Registration is available at:?http://www.tapr.org/dcc#registration The DCC Hotel Special Rate ends on September 15th.?DCC Hotel Information is available at:?http://www.tapr.org/dcc#hotel Look forward to your participation in the DCC.? From wb3csy at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 11:36:02 2015 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:36:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: <55DBD55D.3060808@alum.wpi.edu> References: <55DBD55D.3060808@alum.wpi.edu> Message-ID: <31A13A3F-7BA6-4BFD-A491-5C09670EA06C@gmail.com> Thank you all for your replies to my question. I did not realize I would not see my message appear on the BB if I BCC'd it to myself. I appreciate the information. 73, Rick Sent from Rick's iPad2 > On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:39 PM, Joe Fitzgerald wrote: > > > >> On 8/24/2015 7:52 PM, Rick Walter wrote: >> What is the average time between someone sending a >> post and when it actually appears on the BB? > > > When a message "appears on the BB" has a couple of different answers. > Your note "appeared" via the web interface a few seconds before 2:47 PM > EDT today > > http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-August/054624.html > > Google's mail server accepted the remailed message from amsat-bb to > wb3csy at gmail.com at 2:47:12 EDT. Once Gmail accepted the message, that > is the last I can see of it from the logs on our mail server. I don't > know when it "appeared" in your in your inbox. Google does strange and > mysterious things* to protect its users from spam, perhaps they are > using some new method that results in delivery delays that can't be > observed from the sending mail server. > > Rick, thanks for this report. I'll see if there is anything I can do > to improve delivery from our end. > > > -Joe KM1P > AMSAT Electronic Services > > *Sometimes our mail server is "greylisted" by Google. Greylisting is a > spam control method where mail is temporarily rejected on the theory > that spammers usually don't attempt periodic retries to a temporary > delivery failure like legitimate mail senders do. It is not clear why > we are put on Google's greylist (or how we get off of it), but that does > not appear to be what happened here since they accepted the remailed > message right away. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 12:07:14 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:07:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes In-Reply-To: References: <7ECC1DC4-6ECA-4C66-A704-48B79BB3CD88@gmail.com> <55DBA350.4080800@amsat.org> Message-ID: I agree with the smart phone calendar idea. That's what I do, and the heavens-above app has an export to calendar function that makes the event automatically. I usually add all the passes I'm interested in before the weekend starts, or whenever I'll have time to work the birds! On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Steve May wrote: > I have a spreadsheet that I have used in the past to import pass data into > a Google Calendar. That calendar had specific alerts for the passes. > > But, after finding the ISS Detector app for Android I never use the old > method because ISS Detector automatically updates depending on my location. > > Steve, W5IEM > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 7:06 PM Bruce wrote: > >> on an iphone, the pxsat app will allow you to select a particular >> satellite and then set reminders automatically for the pass of your >> choosing when you look at the upcoming list. on the main screen, click >> on the gear, then click on the I (for information on that satellite) >> that you want to see passes for. then tap each pass you want to be >> notified about. you can then click on the gear in the lower right >> (param) and set the pass notifications margin for 30 seconds, 1 minute, >> 2 minutes or 5 minutes. i don't think a one hour before the pass is >> useful. that would be like letting you know the day before there will be >> 3 passes tomorrow. you will be busy or forget when that hour comes up. >> maybe a combination of using the calendar to notify you an hour before >> and the the tracking app notifying you 5 minutes before would be a good >> combination. >> >> 73...bruce >> >> On 8/24/2015 4:47 PM, Skyler Fennell wrote: >> > I have been very bad at making satellite contacts recently. The main >> reason is because they aren't at a specific time every day/week and I don't >> look for passes very often. When I do search for passes, I am busy during >> the pass or don't have enough time to prep for a pass in 10 minutes. In >> addition, I can only work FM, so there aren't many sats (like one) >> > >> > Has anybody ever found something to get notified when a pass is coming >> up (maybe in the next few hours or so) via text message or email or >> something else? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Skyler KD0WHB >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >> >> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards >> >> ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE >> >> Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* >> Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com >> Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes >> >> Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News >> http://www.arrl.org >> >> AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Tue Aug 25 12:44:17 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:44:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software In-Reply-To: <002101d0dec4$bee2b830$3ca82890$@charter.net> References: <1501701952.2923453.1437000085467.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5245b13e387d33207934eaf575961fd6@mail.gmail.com> <002101d0dec4$bee2b830$3ca82890$@charter.net> Message-ID: I guess because I have been living with it night and day since 2007 and working on it over and over again for 8 years as PSAT. But you re right. I don't like the ambiguity. Ill try to say PSAT(NO44). -----Original Message----- From: Ted [mailto:k7trkradio at charter.net] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:30 PM To: 'Robert Bruninga'; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software Just curious...why do we not refer to this sat as NO-84? Seems to me that consistency is the best way to go 73, ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:17 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software PSAT seems to be returning to good health. We will keep the digipeater off, but will now announce it is safe to resume PSK31 experiments. Remember, when we ran out of power, great progress had been made with Andy's pre-compensating PSK31 uplink software (below). Here also are the latest elements for PSAT: PSAT 1 90720U 15234.36512451 +.00008395 +00000-0 +21488-3 0 0099 2 90720 054.9897 293.1329 0244566 052.6872 309.6216 15.1526532401420 When PSAT-1 is using the PSAT-1 callsign, that means the digipeater is off. But as of now, PSK31 experimentation is authorized. 28.120 PSK31 uplink and 435.350 FM downlink. Bob, WB4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of aflowers at frontiernet.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:41 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software I put together an experimental program called DopplerPSK to compensate for the Doppler shift on the NO-84 (or NO-83) PSK31 uplink. In essence, its a PSK31 transmitter that is merged with an orbital propagator to cause your transmitted signal to drift exactly opposite to uplink Doppler effect. It does this in a phase-continuous correction so that you don't get errors due to discontinuous frequency adjustments from controlling a radio in discrete steps. In the case of PSAT and BricSat, it should cause your signal to stay at constant frequency in the satellite's uplink receiver, and thus you should get a stable frequency on the FM downlink as well. In turn, this means you should be able to use your favorite PSK31 demodulating software to copy the downlink since the frequency drift should stay well within the AFC tolerance of the software. Anyway, if there are any adventurous people who are set up to give this a go, I would be interested in seeing if it actually works. You can find a rough quick-start guide (which contains an explanation of how it works and what you need to get started) and the application package on the rather minimalist page here: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/dopplerpsk/dopplerpsk.html It's an experiment, so be prepared for disappointment. I am :-) Andy K0SM/2 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar Tue Aug 25 13:47:19 2015 From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (LW8EXS) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:47:19 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] report rx NO-84 Message-ID: 13:45 UTC 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [10:45:05R] !08 . N\058 . ES140/999/W3ADO s#014548,0z290 73s LW8EXS Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From nj.waters at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 14:05:08 2015 From: nj.waters at gmail.com (njwater .) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:05:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB Message-ID: I receive a daily digest, but other than checking the archives, is there any real-time or near-real-time way to see new bb messages? Rob, KA2CZU ------------------------------ Rick mentioned: >* I BCC it to myself. It showed up in 5 seconds. Five hours *>* later, I still do not see it listed on the AMSAT BB. * OK, EMike rang a bell :-) The list won't duplicate messages. The settings assumed you already received the message with your BCC. Try it without the BCC on your next message and you should see your messages shortly afterward. There is a Mailman setting for NODUP for all subscribers. The timing of the message actually appearing for you also depends on local settings. I use MS-Office Outlook for my primary e-mail. My Outlook settings are to check for new mail every 300 seconds (5 minutes). So a message actually arriving would be sometime in that 5 minute window depending on the time in the receive window when I sent the message. I use Gmail on my Android tablet and it usually receives messages sooner mostly because it is not likely waiting for the 5 minute receive window as in my Outlook settings. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKMk9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Tue Aug 25 14:10:32 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:10:32 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rob, The AMSAT-BB archives would be the way to see new messages in real time, if you're only subscribed to the digest. http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb Otherwise, you could change from a digest subscription and get each message as it posts to the list. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:05 AM, njwater . wrote: > I receive a daily digest, but other than checking the archives, is there > any real-time or near-real-time way to > see new bb messages? From nj.waters at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 14:28:14 2015 From: nj.waters at gmail.com (njwater .) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:28:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ok, I see that option on the list subscribe page now, thanks! Rob KA2CZU On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > Rob, > > The AMSAT-BB archives would be the way to see new messages in real > time, if you're only subscribed to the digest. > > http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb > > Otherwise, you could change from a digest subscription and get each message > as it posts to the list. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:05 AM, njwater . wrote: > > I receive a daily digest, but other than checking the archives, is there > > any real-time or near-real-time way to > > see new bb messages? > From jim at k6ccc.org Tue Aug 25 14:35:15 2015 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:35:15 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: <31A13A3F-7BA6-4BFD-A491-5C09670EA06C@gmail.com> References: <55DBD55D.3060808@alum.wpi.edu> <31A13A3F-7BA6-4BFD-A491-5C09670EA06C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f349d165f1d4fbfa1365a1dd69f6e37@k6ccc.org> Rick, G-Mail does some weird stuff when dealing with messages sent through a mailing list that drive me nuts - particularly when using the G-Mail client on a phone. To complicate it, this list is set up so that replies to messages go only to the original poster and not to the list itself (unless you use the cursed "Reply All" - and then have to delete the address for the original poster or else they get it twice). Normally the list server is pretty fast. Jim Walls K6CCC ---------------------------------------- From: "Rick Walter" Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:36 AM To: "Joe Fitzgerald" Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB Thank you all for your replies to my question. I did not realize I would not see my message appear on the BB if I BCC'd it to myself. I appreciate the information. 73, Rick Sent from Rick's iPad2 From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 16:34:18 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:34:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: <5f349d165f1d4fbfa1365a1dd69f6e37@k6ccc.org> References: <55DBD55D.3060808@alum.wpi.edu> <31A13A3F-7BA6-4BFD-A491-5C09670EA06C@gmail.com> <5f349d165f1d4fbfa1365a1dd69f6e37@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: In the recent past it was mentioned that the list gets a ton of spam, and that complicates delivery times as well... perhaps because some legitimate messages get marked as spam and have to be approved/moderated? On Aug 25, 2015 10:35 AM, "Jim Walls" wrote: > Rick, > G-Mail does some weird stuff when dealing with messages sent through a > mailing list that drive me nuts - particularly when using the G-Mail client > on a phone. To complicate it, this list is set up so that replies to > messages go only to the original poster and not to the list itself (unless > you use the cursed "Reply All" - and then have to delete the address for > the original poster or else they get it twice). > > Normally the list server is pretty fast. > > Jim Walls > K6CCC > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Rick Walter" > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:36 AM > To: "Joe Fitzgerald" > Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB > Thank you all for your replies to my question. I did not realize I would > not see my message appear on the BB if I BCC'd it to myself. I appreciate > the information. > 73, > Rick > > Sent from Rick's iPad2 > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wa4sca at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 17:06:26 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:06:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB In-Reply-To: References: <55DBD55D.3060808@alum.wpi.edu> <31A13A3F-7BA6-4BFD-A491-5C09670EA06C@gmail.com> <5f349d165f1d4fbfa1365a1dd69f6e37@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: <000c01d0df58$60bd01e0$223705a0$@GMAIL.COM> Legitimate email can sometimes be caught as spam, and if it does not generate a message to the list moderators, if may be anywhere from a few minutes to several hours before it is noticed and released. However, by far the biggest reason a legitimate message is caught is when it is sent from another account rather than the one registered to amsat-bb. There have been a few today. The other reasons are distant seconds. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: < <> Rick, <> G-Mail does some weird stuff when dealing with messages sent through a <> mailing list that drive me nuts - particularly when using the G-Mail client <> on a phone. To complicate it, this list is set up so that replies to <> messages go only to the original poster and not to the list itself (unless <> you use the cursed "Reply All" - and then have to delete the address for <> the original poster or else they get it twice). <> <> Normally the list server is pretty fast. <> <> Jim Walls <> K6CCC <> <> <> <> <> <> ---------------------------------------- <> From: "Rick Walter" <> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:36 AM <> To: "Joe Fitzgerald" <> Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB <> Thank you all for your replies to my question. I did not realize I would <> not see my message appear on the BB if I BCC'd it to myself. I appreciate <> the information. <> 73, <> Rick <> <> Sent from Rick's iPad2 <> <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <> expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <> AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> <_______________________________________________ Hello amsat-bb, Have updated my CNCTRK site with information on the Raspberry Pi version of the system -- these data are new since the article was published in the May/June issue of the Journal. Am still planning to build a short run of APS units in Q4 (if our travel expenses son't break the bank, that is). Have fun and keep up the good work. Bob KI4SBL From uwaveguy at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 01:07:37 2015 From: uwaveguy at gmail.com (Bob Freeman) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:07:37 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] CNCTRK update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oops, a link would be nice. Here it is: http://ki4sbl.dodropin.org/CNCTRK/CNCTRK_system_home.html Bob KI4SBL On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Bob Freeman wrote: > Hello amsat-bb, > > Have updated my CNCTRK site with information on the Raspberry Pi version > of the system -- these data are new since the article was published in the > May/June issue of the Journal. > > Am still planning to build a short run of APS units in Q4 (if our travel > expenses son't break the bank, that is). > > Have fun and keep up the good work. > > Bob > KI4SBL > > From k9jkm at comcast.net Wed Aug 26 13:50:21 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:50:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] USA Midwest: Listen on 145.800 Thursday August 27 Message-ID: <005e01d0e006$26f79610$74e6c230$@net> Heads up ... opportunity to copy ISS on 145.800 for stations in the Midwest USA ... Thursday, August 27 at 10:52 CDT (15:52 UTC) opportunity to copy the International Space Station on 145.800. They have a school contact planned with Bunker Hill, Indiana (central Indiana north of Indianapolis). The contact will be direct between NA1SS and KD9BAQ. Details of school contacts posted at: http://www.ariss.org/ -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services From n8mr at hotmail.com Wed Aug 26 14:36:49 2015 From: n8mr at hotmail.com (Mike N8MR) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 10:36:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EN57 on SO-50 Message-ID: I will be in EN57 today and tomorrow with my Arrow antenna and two HTs. I will try to get on SO-50 on the 1530 and 1711 URC passes today. 73, Mike, N8MR From n8mr at hotmail.com Wed Aug 26 14:39:31 2015 From: n8mr at hotmail.com (Mike N8MR) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 10:39:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EN57 on SO-50 Message-ID: I will be in EN57 today and tomorrow with my Arrow antenna and two HTs. I will try to get on SO-50 on the 1530 and 1711 URC passes today. 73, Mike, N8MR From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar Wed Aug 26 21:52:30 2015 From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (LW8EXS) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 18:52:30 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] report rx NO-84 Message-ID: 21:50 UTC 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [18:48:12R] !08 . N\107 . ES140/999/W3ADO s#015848,0z290 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [18:49:47R] !05 . N\110 . ES140/999/W3ADO s#015849,0z290 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [18:49:47R] s#015849,0z290,NEPNdPHkPecQ0JQMGQLiPbiQfEQIKQMAQHiQ 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [18:50:00R] T#374,847,074,497,877,837,00011100 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [18:51:01R] T#375,845,071,496,880,836,00011100 73s LW8EXS Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kc0bmf at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 04:42:54 2015 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:42:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Message-ID: Hello to the Group Here is what I copied from NO-84 on UTC 8/27/15 around 04:30 ish. The time in the packets is Central time. I tried the digi once, but no response. 73 John W0JW Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:29:57] T#768,802,072,860,910,839,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:30:58] T#769,800,070,870,913,839,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:34] !54 . N\055 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016124,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:34] s#016124,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:58] T#770,798,073,878,915,840,00011100 Fm W0JW-6 To APEG02 Via ARISS [23:32:51] =4111.15N/09352.30W`>73' Via Satellite 145.825 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:32:59] T#771,784,352,885,918,840,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:33:07] !55 . N\051 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016125,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:33:07] s#016125,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm W0JW-6 To APEG02 Via ARISS [23:33:08] =4111.15N/09352.30W`>73' Via Satellite 145.825 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:34:41] !55 . N\045 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016126,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:34:42] s#016126,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:35:02] T#773,793,070,893,922,842,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:02] T#774,792,071,895,925,843,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:18] !55 . N\039 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016127,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:19] s#016127,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:03] T#775,787,071,896,927,844,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:51] !55 . N\033 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016128,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:51] s#016128,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 From mail at mike-rupprecht.de Thu Aug 27 04:51:36 2015 From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:51:36 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002501d0e084$0e1386d0$2a3a9470$@de> Hi John, if you see the call sign PSAT-1 the APRS digipeater is off. You can try the PSK31 transponder (28.120 MHz USB uplink / 435.350 MHz FM downlink). 73 Mike DK3WN -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von John Fickes Gesendet: 27 August 2015 06:43 An: amsat-bb Betreff: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Hello to the Group Here is what I copied from NO-84 on UTC 8/27/15 around 04:30 ish. The time in the packets is Central time. I tried the digi once, but no response. 73 John W0JW Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:29:57] T#768,802,072,860,910,839,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:30:58] T#769,800,070,870,913,839,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:34] !54 . N\055 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016124,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:34] s#016124,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:58] T#770,798,073,878,915,840,00011100 Fm W0JW-6 To APEG02 Via ARISS [23:32:51] =4111.15N/09352.30W`>73' Via Satellite 145.825 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:32:59] T#771,784,352,885,918,840,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:33:07] !55 . N\051 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016125,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:33:07] s#016125,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm W0JW-6 To APEG02 Via ARISS [23:33:08] =4111.15N/09352.30W`>73' Via Satellite 145.825 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:34:41] !55 . N\045 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016126,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:34:42] s#016126,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:35:02] T#773,793,070,893,922,842,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:02] T#774,792,071,895,925,843,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:18] !55 . N\039 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016127,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:19] s#016127,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:03] T#775,787,071,896,927,844,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:51] !55 . N\033 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016128,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:51] s#016128,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kc0bmf at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 05:13:49 2015 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:13:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 In-Reply-To: <002501d0e084$0e1386d0$2a3a9470$@de> References: <002501d0e084$0e1386d0$2a3a9470$@de> Message-ID: OK, Thanks Mike. I'll give it a go tomorrow. 73 John W0JW On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Mike Rupprecht wrote: > Hi John, > > if you see the call sign PSAT-1 the APRS digipeater is off. You can try the > PSK31 transponder (28.120 MHz USB uplink / 435.350 MHz FM downlink). > > 73 Mike > DK3WN > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von John > Fickes > Gesendet: 27 August 2015 06:43 > An: amsat-bb > Betreff: [amsat-bb] NO-84 > > Hello to the Group > > Here is what I copied from NO-84 on UTC 8/27/15 around 04:30 ish. The > time in the packets is Central time. I tried the digi once, but no > response. > 73 John W0JW > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:29:57] > T#768,802,072,860,910,839,00011100 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:30:58] > T#769,800,070,870,913,839,00011100 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:34] > !54 . N\055 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016124,0z290 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:34] > s#016124,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:58] > T#770,798,073,878,915,840,00011100 > > > > Fm W0JW-6 To APEG02 Via ARISS [23:32:51] > =4111.15N/09352.30W`>73' Via Satellite 145.825 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:32:59] > T#771,784,352,885,918,840,00011100 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:33:07] > !55 . N\051 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016125,0z290 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:33:07] > s#016125,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 > > > > Fm W0JW-6 To APEG02 Via ARISS [23:33:08] > =4111.15N/09352.30W`>73' Via Satellite 145.825 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:34:41] > !55 . N\045 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016126,0z290 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:34:42] > s#016126,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:35:02] > T#773,793,070,893,922,842,00011100 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:02] > T#774,792,071,895,925,843,00011100 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:18] > !55 . N\039 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016127,0z290 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:19] > s#016127,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:03] > T#775,787,071,896,927,844,00011100 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:51] > !55 . N\033 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016128,0z290 > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:51] > s#016128,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From mail at mike-rupprecht.de Thu Aug 27 05:20:36 2015 From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:20:36 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 In-Reply-To: References: <002501d0e084$0e1386d0$2a3a9470$@de> Message-ID: <000301d0e088$1b0ee740$512cb5c0$@de> A great tool for transmitting doppler corrected PSK31: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/dopplerpsk/dopplerpsk.html 73 Mike DK3WN Von: John Fickes [mailto:kc0bmf at gmail.com] Gesendet: 27 August 2015 07:14 An: Mike Rupprecht Cc: amsat-bb Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 OK, Thanks Mike. I'll give it a go tomorrow. 73 John W0JW On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Mike Rupprecht wrote: Hi John, if you see the call sign PSAT-1 the APRS digipeater is off. You can try the PSK31 transponder (28.120 MHz USB uplink / 435.350 MHz FM downlink). 73 Mike DK3WN -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von John Fickes Gesendet: 27 August 2015 06:43 An: amsat-bb Betreff: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Hello to the Group Here is what I copied from NO-84 on UTC 8/27/15 around 04:30 ish. The time in the packets is Central time. I tried the digi once, but no response. 73 John W0JW Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:29:57] T#768,802,072,860,910,839,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:30:58] T#769,800,070,870,913,839,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:34] !54 . N\055 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016124,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:34] s#016124,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:31:58] T#770,798,073,878,915,840,00011100 Fm W0JW-6 To APEG02 Via ARISS [23:32:51] =4111.15N/09352.30W`>73' Via Satellite 145.825 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:32:59] T#771,784,352,885,918,840,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:33:07] !55 . N\051 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016125,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:33:07] s#016125,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm W0JW-6 To APEG02 Via ARISS [23:33:08] =4111.15N/09352.30W`>73' Via Satellite 145.825 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:34:41] !55 . N\045 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016126,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:34:42] s#016126,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:35:02] T#773,793,070,893,922,842,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:02] T#774,792,071,895,925,843,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:18] !55 . N\039 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016127,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:36:19] s#016127,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:03] T#775,787,071,896,927,844,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:51] !55 . N\033 . WS090/999/W3ADO s#016128,0z290 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [23:37:51] s#016128,0z290,000000000000000000000000000000000000 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bobsmacbox at yahoo.com Thu Aug 27 04:49:11 2015 From: bobsmacbox at yahoo.com (Bob Bennett) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:49:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 1.2 GHz and 2.4 GHz Birds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55DE96C7.4010807@yahoo.com> I am putting my new M2 LEO antenna up, and since I have loop yagis for 1.2 and 2.4 GHz, I wanted to know if there are any currently active satellites using these frequencies. I checked heavens-above and found a few but wanted to ask the experienced birdwatchers on this list. Thanx nz2z From dan at post.com Thu Aug 27 13:49:46 2015 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:49:46 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] 1.2 GHz and 2.4 GHz Birds In-Reply-To: <55DE96C7.4010807@yahoo.com> References: <55DE96C7.4010807@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2395Mhz there is a strong, wide downlink only DVB-S PSK carrier from the HAMTV downlink from the ISS. I am not sure you can pick it up with your set up. On a spectrum analyser you see a wide hump around two megahertz wide. It is very strong when directly overhead. It is true circularly polarised, but you MUST use antennas with RHCP not LHCP, or you will block the signal. At the moment it is broadcasting on every pass, with blank video, but the DVB-S carrier is sending normal data. It is expected to turn off on Monday 31 August 2015, between 15:00 and 15:10 UTC. until mid September as it's power supply is being borrowed for another experiment. This should not affect other HAM equipment on board the ISS such a packet. http://www.ariss-eu.org/columbus.htm From james at wx4tv.com Thu Aug 27 14:47:57 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 10:47:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM96 Message-ID: <102B03CD-F3B2-470F-A13E-C04CA0C9E628@wx4tv.com> I will be on the SO-50 pass at 1557Z from EM96. James Lea Sent from my iPhone From skristof at etczone.com Thu Aug 27 16:11:16 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:11:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact Message-ID: <4816368f37deb5894b743ea3c9706213@etczone.com> Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN (southeast corner of state, Grid EM79jg). Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill School, and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. Steve AI9IN From AJ9N at aol.com Thu Aug 27 16:14:39 2015 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:14:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact Message-ID: <15b28c.13a7c7ba.4310916f@aol.com> Thanks Steve, It was an outstanding contact and went well. 73, Charlie In a message dated 8/27/2015 9:11:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, skristof at etczone.com writes: Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN (southeast corner of state, Grid EM79jg). Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill School, and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. Steve AI9IN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gkcarr at go-express.net Thu Aug 27 16:16:20 2015 From: gkcarr at go-express.net (gkcarr at go-express.net) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:16:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact In-Reply-To: <4816368f37deb5894b743ea3c9706213@etczone.com> References: <4816368f37deb5894b743ea3c9706213@etczone.com> Message-ID: <1440692180.617316058@webmail.goexpress.us> I, too, received excellent audio from the ISS in EM30. George WA5KBH -----Original Message----- From: skristof at etczone.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:11 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN (southeast corner of state, Grid EM79jg). Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill School, and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. Steve AI9IN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From AJ9N at aol.com Thu Aug 27 16:18:14 2015 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:18:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact Message-ID: <15b448.4922b1f6.43109246@aol.com> Thanks George, It was an outstanding contact and was also webstreamed. Thanks for the report. 73, Charlie AJ9N ARISS mentor for Maconaquah Schools In a message dated 8/27/2015 9:16:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gkcarr at go-express.net writes: I, too, received excellent audio from the ISS in EM30. George WA5KBH -----Original Message----- From: skristof at etczone.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:11 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN (southeast corner of state, Grid EM79jg). Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill School, and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. Steve AI9IN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Thu Aug 27 16:42:16 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:42:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact In-Reply-To: <15b448.4922b1f6.43109246@aol.com> References: <15b448.4922b1f6.43109246@aol.com> Message-ID: <11983f0d99eab95bb3b7c70710c0defe@etczone.com> Webstreaming is a great idea! But, I believe that I am in the running for "Nerd of the Month" at my school for standing in the parking lot with my HT and my Arrow antenna, and with a voice recorder in my shirt pocket and the microphone clipped to my tie. Steve AI9IN On 2015-08-27 12:18, AJ9N at aol.com wrote: > Thanks George, > > It was an outstanding contact and was also webstreamed. > > Thanks for the report. > > 73, > Charlie AJ9N > ARISS mentor for Maconaquah Schools > > In a message dated 8/27/2015 9:16:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gkcarr at go-express.net writes: > >> I, too, received excellent audio from the ISS in EM30. >> George >> WA5KBH >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: skristof at etczone.com >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:11 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact >> >> Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's >> side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. >> >> I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN (southeast >> corner of state, Grid EM79jg). >> >> Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill School, >> and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. >> >> I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. >> >> Steve AI9IN >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar Thu Aug 27 20:04:18 2015 From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (LW8EXS) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:04:18 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] REPORT RX NO-84 Message-ID: <17C60F4A4EE4479D9BFB34BFF0B44B16@PC1> NOTHING HEARD IN 435.350RX 145.825 FM - 19:51 UTC 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [16:51:48R] T#676,844,076,500,859,846,00011100 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [16:52:45R] !17 . N\114 . WS140/999/W3ADO s#016745,0z290 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [16:52:46R] s#016745,0z290,haMiHMFJLJbMgeMlHLAJMDbNlgMlHKbJN0cN 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [16:54:19R] !14 . N\111 . WS140/999/W3ADO s#016746,0z290 73s LW8EXS Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 20:33:23 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:33:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact In-Reply-To: <11983f0d99eab95bb3b7c70710c0defe@etczone.com> References: <15b448.4922b1f6.43109246@aol.com> <11983f0d99eab95bb3b7c70710c0defe@etczone.com> Message-ID: I heard the majority of it here in Raleigh, NC (FM05). People should consider listening even for ISS contacts in different states/areas. I received the entire contact with New York here in Raleigh once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGFEanljOG8 Last Saturday I even heard the tail end of a contact that was happening in Arizona. Granted I was on the Blue Ridge parkway in the Appalachian mountains, but still. Don't have that one on YouTube yet. Most impressively I heard the very beginning of a contact via a telebridge in Italy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsaIN1R6LfY The only reason I heard that though is because Gennady Padalka started calling Italy 6 or 7 minutes early. I actually forgot about the contact and was in the middle of calling them for a random contact. I returned the call only because that's what I thought he was calling for, but you shouldn't call them when they are doing scheduled school contacts so as not to confuse them or interfere. John, KG4AKV On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:42 PM, wrote: > > > Webstreaming is a great idea! > > But, I believe that I am in the running for "Nerd of the Month" at my > school for standing in the parking lot with my HT and my Arrow antenna, > and with a voice recorder in my shirt pocket and the microphone clipped > to my tie. > > Steve AI9IN > > On 2015-08-27 12:18, AJ9N at aol.com wrote: > >> Thanks George, >> >> It was an outstanding contact and was also webstreamed. >> >> Thanks for the report. >> >> 73, >> Charlie AJ9N >> ARISS mentor for Maconaquah Schools >> >> In a message dated 8/27/2015 9:16:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gkcarr at go-express.net writes: >> >>> I, too, received excellent audio from the ISS in EM30. >>> George >>> WA5KBH >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: skristof at etczone.com >>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:11 >>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact >>> >>> Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's >>> side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. >>> >>> I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN (southeast >>> corner of state, Grid EM79jg). >>> >>> Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill School, >>> and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. >>> >>> I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. >>> >>> Steve AI9IN >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From AJ9N at aol.com Thu Aug 27 20:47:14 2015 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:47:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact Message-ID: <162be6.496efed4.4310d152@aol.com> Thanks John for the report. And thanks for reminding everyone to not attempt to make a contact before a scheduled ARISS contact. The ISS crew will only be listening for one specific callsign; that of the school or telebridge station. Once a contact is over, then it is fair game but just know they are probably back to work as soon as the contact is over. 73, Charlie AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors In a message dated 8/27/2015 1:33:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, johnbrier at gmail.com writes: I heard the majority of it here in Raleigh, NC (FM05). People should consider listening even for ISS contacts in different states/areas. I received the entire contact with New York here in Raleigh once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGFEanljOG8 Last Saturday I even heard the tail end of a contact that was happening in Arizona. Granted I was on the Blue Ridge parkway in the Appalachian mountains, but still. Don't have that one on YouTube yet. Most impressively I heard the very beginning of a contact via a telebridge in Italy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsaIN1R6LfY The only reason I heard that though is because Gennady Padalka started calling Italy 6 or 7 minutes early. I actually forgot about the contact and was in the middle of calling them for a random contact. I returned the call only because that's what I thought he was calling for, but you shouldn't call them when they are doing scheduled school contacts so as not to confuse them or interfere. John, KG4AKV On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:42 PM, wrote: > > > Webstreaming is a great idea! > > But, I believe that I am in the running for "Nerd of the Month" at my > school for standing in the parking lot with my HT and my Arrow antenna, > and with a voice recorder in my shirt pocket and the microphone clipped > to my tie. > > Steve AI9IN > > On 2015-08-27 12:18, AJ9N at aol.com wrote: > >> Thanks George, >> >> It was an outstanding contact and was also webstreamed. >> >> Thanks for the report. >> >> 73, >> Charlie AJ9N >> ARISS mentor for Maconaquah Schools >> >> In a message dated 8/27/2015 9:16:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gkcarr at go-express.net writes: >> >>> I, too, received excellent audio from the ISS in EM30. >>> George >>> WA5KBH >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: skristof at etczone.com >>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:11 >>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact >>> >>> Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's >>> side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. >>> >>> I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN (southeast >>> corner of state, Grid EM79jg). >>> >>> Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill School, >>> and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. >>> >>> I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. >>> >>> Steve AI9IN >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 20:53:08 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:53:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact In-Reply-To: References: <15b448.4922b1f6.43109246@aol.com> <11983f0d99eab95bb3b7c70710c0defe@etczone.com> Message-ID: While we're talking about ARISS contacts, I have a question. When the cosmonauts do these contacts, do they use the more powerful Kenwood radio in the Zvezda Russian service module or do they use the same setup that most other astronauts use in the Columbus Module? Because I received a 7 degree pass [1] full scale on the S-meter with Gennady Padalka and an Oklahoma group, where the ISS was even further west from them, I believe over Colorado. Whereas today's 23 degree pass for me I was only getting S-5 or S-7 at the most. John, KG4AKV 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-XIz5OUXn4 Note: do not call the ISS before, during, or after a scheduled contact. You could confuse them or interfere. That was a mistake I made. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:33 PM, John Brier wrote: > I heard the majority of it here in Raleigh, NC (FM05). People should > consider listening even for ISS contacts in different states/areas. I > received the entire contact with New York here in Raleigh once: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGFEanljOG8 > > Last Saturday I even heard the tail end of a contact that was > happening in Arizona. Granted I was on the Blue Ridge parkway in the > Appalachian mountains, but still. Don't have that one on YouTube yet. > > Most impressively I heard the very beginning of a contact via a > telebridge in Italy: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsaIN1R6LfY > > The only reason I heard that though is because Gennady Padalka started > calling Italy 6 or 7 minutes early. I actually forgot about the > contact and was in the middle of calling them for a random contact. I > returned the call only because that's what I thought he was calling > for, but you shouldn't call them when they are doing scheduled school > contacts so as not to confuse them or interfere. > > John, KG4AKV > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:42 PM, wrote: >> >> >> Webstreaming is a great idea! >> >> But, I believe that I am in the running for "Nerd of the Month" at my >> school for standing in the parking lot with my HT and my Arrow antenna, >> and with a voice recorder in my shirt pocket and the microphone clipped >> to my tie. >> >> Steve AI9IN >> >> On 2015-08-27 12:18, AJ9N at aol.com wrote: >> >>> Thanks George, >>> >>> It was an outstanding contact and was also webstreamed. >>> >>> Thanks for the report. >>> >>> 73, >>> Charlie AJ9N >>> ARISS mentor for Maconaquah Schools >>> >>> In a message dated 8/27/2015 9:16:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gkcarr at go-express.net writes: >>> >>>> I, too, received excellent audio from the ISS in EM30. >>>> George >>>> WA5KBH >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: skristof at etczone.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:11 >>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact >>>> >>>> Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's >>>> side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. >>>> >>>> I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN (southeast >>>> corner of state, Grid EM79jg). >>>> >>>> Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill School, >>>> and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. >>>> >>>> I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. >>>> >>>> Steve AI9IN >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at druidnetworks.com Thu Aug 27 20:59:59 2015 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (Dave Swanson) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:59:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact Message-ID: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> Satellite friends and colleagues, I'm happy to announce that at 1732UTC on August 27th, 2015, A QSO was made between myself, KG5CCI, and F4CQA on Satellite FO-29. This was not a scheduled contact, I simply answered Christophe's CQ call. I knew it was a good contact at the time, but as I was portable up on Arkansas' Shinnall Mountain, I did not have the resources available to calculate distances. After returning to my office I began to log the contacts I had made, and noticed the "general" distance between EM34 and JN17 was in excess of 7500km. About the same time I came to this realization, my email chirped with a message from Christophe, who had came to the same conclusion. After some quick exchanges, and verifying 10 digit locators, we have settled on an official distance of 7599.959km between my grid of EM34ST11TL and Christophe's grid of JN17EA22OT, using the http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html website for calculations. To the best of our knowledge, referencing data found on Amsat-UK's website ( at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/06/uk-texas-extreme-dx-contact/ ) this breaks the previous distance records of 7537.799km between W5CBF and G4DOL, and the 7538.685km contact between K4FEG and DK1TB. I had my camera setup to record the pass as well, and you can view a raw clip of the contact here: https://youtu.be/orY0Re0IY30 If anyone has any questions about the contact, I'll be happy to answer them. Special thanks and a solid *GOOD-DX* to Christophe for the contact, and here's to many more. 73! -Dave, KG5CCI From wageners at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 21:05:04 2015 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:05:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact In-Reply-To: References: <15b448.4922b1f6.43109246@aol.com> <11983f0d99eab95bb3b7c70710c0defe@etczone.com> Message-ID: Yes, the use the new D710 in the Russian module. Stefan On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:53 PM, John Brier wrote: > While we're talking about ARISS contacts, I have a question. > > When the cosmonauts do these contacts, do they use the more powerful > Kenwood radio in the Zvezda Russian service module or do they use the > same setup that most other astronauts use in the Columbus Module? > > Because I received a 7 degree pass [1] full scale on the S-meter with > Gennady Padalka and an Oklahoma group, where the ISS was even further > west from them, I believe over Colorado. Whereas today's 23 degree > pass for me I was only getting S-5 or S-7 at the most. > > John, KG4AKV > > 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-XIz5OUXn4 > > Note: do not call the ISS before, during, or after a scheduled > contact. You could confuse them or interfere. That was a mistake I > made. > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:33 PM, John Brier wrote: > > I heard the majority of it here in Raleigh, NC (FM05). People should > > consider listening even for ISS contacts in different states/areas. I > > received the entire contact with New York here in Raleigh once: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGFEanljOG8 > > > > Last Saturday I even heard the tail end of a contact that was > > happening in Arizona. Granted I was on the Blue Ridge parkway in the > > Appalachian mountains, but still. Don't have that one on YouTube yet. > > > > Most impressively I heard the very beginning of a contact via a > > telebridge in Italy: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsaIN1R6LfY > > > > The only reason I heard that though is because Gennady Padalka started > > calling Italy 6 or 7 minutes early. I actually forgot about the > > contact and was in the middle of calling them for a random contact. I > > returned the call only because that's what I thought he was calling > > for, but you shouldn't call them when they are doing scheduled school > > contacts so as not to confuse them or interfere. > > > > John, KG4AKV > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:42 PM, wrote: > >> > >> > >> Webstreaming is a great idea! > >> > >> But, I believe that I am in the running for "Nerd of the Month" at my > >> school for standing in the parking lot with my HT and my Arrow antenna, > >> and with a voice recorder in my shirt pocket and the microphone clipped > >> to my tie. > >> > >> Steve AI9IN > >> > >> On 2015-08-27 12:18, AJ9N at aol.com wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks George, > >>> > >>> It was an outstanding contact and was also webstreamed. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the report. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Charlie AJ9N > >>> ARISS mentor for Maconaquah Schools > >>> > >>> In a message dated 8/27/2015 9:16:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > gkcarr at go-express.net writes: > >>> > >>>> I, too, received excellent audio from the ISS in EM30. > >>>> George > >>>> WA5KBH > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: skristof at etczone.com > >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:11 > >>>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > >>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS school contact > >>>> > >>>> Had excellent reception (RS 59) horizon to horizon of the astronaut's > >>>> side of the QSO between the ISS and Bunker Hill School, Indiana. > >>>> > >>>> I am located at Ivy Tech Community College in Batesville, IN > (southeast > >>>> corner of state, Grid EM79jg). > >>>> > >>>> Thank you very much to the astronauts, the folks in Bunker Hill > School, > >>>> and everyone who supports ARISS for making this possible. > >>>> > >>>> I did record it, but haven't checked my recording yet. > >>>> > >>>> Steve AI9IN > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w7lrd at comcast.net Thu Aug 27 21:14:44 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 21:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact In-Reply-To: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> References: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> Message-ID: <1993693086.7820182.1440710084603.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Nice Job Dave and Christophe- I am trying the same from CN87wk. Not easy but worth the effort. "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes a little longer" 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle, Wa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Swanson" To: amsat-bb at amsat.org, f4cqa at free.fr Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:59:59 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact Satellite friends and colleagues, I'm happy to announce that at 1732UTC on August 27th, 2015, A QSO was made between myself, KG5CCI, and F4CQA on Satellite FO-29. This was not a scheduled contact, I simply answered Christophe's CQ call. I knew it was a good contact at the time, but as I was portable up on Arkansas' Shinnall Mountain, I did not have the resources available to calculate distances. After returning to my office I began to log the contacts I had made, and noticed the "general" distance between EM34 and JN17 was in excess of 7500km. About the same time I came to this realization, my email chirped with a message from Christophe, who had came to the same conclusion. After some quick exchanges, and verifying 10 digit locators, we have settled on an official distance of 7599.959km between my grid of EM34ST11TL and Christophe's grid of JN17EA22OT, using the http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html website for calculations. To the best of our knowledge, referencing data found on Amsat-UK's website ( at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/06/uk-texas-extreme-dx-contact/ ) this breaks the previous distance records of 7537.799km between W5CBF and G4DOL, and the 7538.685km contact between K4FEG and DK1TB. I had my camera setup to record the pass as well, and you can view a raw clip of the contact here: https://youtu.be/orY0Re0IY30 If anyone has any questions about the contact, I'll be happy to answer them. Special thanks and a solid *GOOD-DX* to Christophe for the contact, and here's to many more. 73! -Dave, KG5CCI _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc2 at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 23:27:34 2015 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:27:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Icom 451 UHF all mode radio Message-ID: I have for sale an Icom 451 all mode 70cm transceiver in very good condition. Looks really good for a radio of this age, and works fine also. I have been using it on the satellites with good results, and also in the UHF contest earlier this month. This will get you on both the linear and the FM satellites. I have had good luck with it so far on AO7, FO29, AO73, and SO50. It has a built in power supply, and does 10 watts out. Comes with a power cord and hand mic. The only "issue" with it is that the level to turn the VOX off and on is missing. It is in the VOX on position, but I just turned the VOX gain all the way down and it functions in PTT mode only. You can turn up the VOX gain if you want to use it in VOX mode. This transceiver covers the 430-440 mhz range of 70cm and doesn't have a tone encoder with it. One could be added, though. Here is a great chance to get on 70cm SSB/CW for not a lot of money. I am asking $160 for it plus shipping, and can take paypal/check/MO. Pickup is also possible in Lawton, OK or can meet close by for an in-person deal. 73 John AF5CC From electricity440 at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 00:37:35 2015 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:37:35 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact In-Reply-To: <1993693086.7820182.1440710084603.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> <1993693086.7820182.1440710084603.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: That is awesome and I am mentioning it on the colorado amateur satellite net tonight. What was the degree that the contact was made at? On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > Nice Job Dave and Christophe- I am trying the same from CN87wk. Not easy > but worth the effort. "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible > takes a little longer" > 73 Bob W7LRD > Seattle, Wa. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave Swanson" > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org, f4cqa at free.fr > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:59:59 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact > > Satellite friends and colleagues, > > I'm happy to announce that at 1732UTC on August 27th, 2015, A QSO was > made between myself, KG5CCI, and F4CQA on Satellite FO-29. This was not > a scheduled contact, I simply answered Christophe's CQ call. I knew it > was a good contact at the time, but as I was portable up on Arkansas' > Shinnall Mountain, I did not have the resources available to calculate > distances. After returning to my office I began to log the contacts I > had made, and noticed the "general" distance between EM34 and JN17 was > in excess of 7500km. About the same time I came to this realization, my > email chirped with a message from Christophe, who had came to the same > conclusion. > > After some quick exchanges, and verifying 10 digit locators, we have > settled on an official distance of 7599.959km between my grid of > EM34ST11TL and Christophe's grid of JN17EA22OT, using the > http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html website for calculations. > > To the best of our knowledge, referencing data found on Amsat-UK's > website ( at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/06/uk-texas-extreme-dx-contact/ > ) this breaks the previous distance records of 7537.799km between W5CBF > and G4DOL, and the 7538.685km contact between K4FEG and DK1TB. > > I had my camera setup to record the pass as well, and you can view a raw > clip of the contact here: > > https://youtu.be/orY0Re0IY30 > > If anyone has any questions about the contact, I'll be happy to answer > them. Special thanks and a solid *GOOD-DX* to Christophe for the > contact, and here's to many more. > > 73! > > -Dave, KG5CCI > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com From skristof at etczone.net Fri Aug 28 00:42:40 2015 From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:42:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact In-Reply-To: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> References: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> Message-ID: <3FA168CF02FF41158EBA1C09B343D2AF@StevePC> Congratulations! Hearing about this kind of stuff makes me want to keep playing radio. Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Swanson" To: ; Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:59 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact > Satellite friends and colleagues, > > I'm happy to announce that at 1732UTC on August 27th, 2015, A QSO was made > between myself, KG5CCI, and F4CQA on Satellite FO-29. This was not a > scheduled contact, I simply answered Christophe's CQ call. I knew it was a > good contact at the time, but as I was portable up on Arkansas' Shinnall > Mountain, I did not have the resources available to calculate distances. > After returning to my office I began to log the contacts I had made, and > noticed the "general" distance between EM34 and JN17 was in excess of > 7500km. About the same time I came to this realization, my email chirped > with a message from Christophe, who had came to the same conclusion. > > After some quick exchanges, and verifying 10 digit locators, we have > settled on an official distance of 7599.959km between my grid of > EM34ST11TL and Christophe's grid of JN17EA22OT, using the > http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html website for calculations. > > To the best of our knowledge, referencing data found on Amsat-UK's website > ( at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/06/uk-texas-extreme-dx-contact/ ) this > breaks the previous distance records of 7537.799km between W5CBF and > G4DOL, and the 7538.685km contact between K4FEG and DK1TB. > > I had my camera setup to record the pass as well, and you can view a raw > clip of the contact here: > > https://youtu.be/orY0Re0IY30 > > If anyone has any questions about the contact, I'll be happy to answer > them. Special thanks and a solid *GOOD-DX* to Christophe for the contact, > and here's to many more. > > 73! > > -Dave, KG5CCI > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From k9qho6762 at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 28 00:45:42 2015 From: k9qho6762 at sbcglobal.net (WILLIAMS MICHAEL) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 1.2 GHz and 2.4 GHz Birds Message-ID: <666541905.1883915.1440722742703.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Bob, Sat Name: DTUsat-2, Beacon is 200mW, Object 40030, 2401.842 MHz. Signalsare very strong, and do not fade. Easily copied with a single helix. It's a good signal to test tracking on 2.4 GHz. Battery power has failed. Downlink only during ellipse using power from solar panels. DTUsat-2 appears at all locations either once or twice at about 11 AM local time and again about midnight. It is sun synchronous. The CW beacons can be every 30 seconds apart or one minute apart depending if the on board computer (OBC) is running. If the OBC is running, the first three bits following the CW I.D. will be "dash-dot-dot" or 100. If the three bits following the I.D is "dot-dot-dot" or 000, the OBC is powered but not running. When the OBC is running, CW beacons may be 1 minute apart with a tone sounding mid way between beacon intervals. Downlink may be a full CW beacon, partial CW beacon, a tone, or a missingsignal for that interval. The beacon CW coded message following the I.D? ( OZ2DTU) is broken into five segmentswhich is STATUS, Radio Temp, Battery Temp, Battery Voltage, and Beacon Count. Beacon count, the last segment, is the "number of beacons since the last full system reboot". This number can be a "dot" which is zero up to a large number, for Example: "Dash Dash Dot Dot Dash" which is 25. To me, a good condition would be a Status of 100 with a Beacon Count 30.Doppler is 100 KHz over the entire pass. Current Keps and accurate computer clock is necessary for good tracking.I've been recording audio for about 3 months for DT University. It's a good signal to track. Google DTUsat-2. 73, Mike (K9QHO) From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 28 03:04:53 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:04:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact In-Reply-To: References: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> <1993693086.7820182.1440710084603.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: SatPC32 shows that at 17:32 UTC, KG5CCI had 0.2 degrees of elevation and F4CQA also had 0.2 degrees of elevation. KG5CCI had a natural 1,056 foot tower at his disposal and F4CQA has quite an antenna array at his home station. Great job to both! Doubly impressive that this was a random contact. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Skyler F wrote: > That is awesome and I am mentioning it on the colorado amateur satellite > net tonight. > > What was the degree that the contact was made at? > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > > > Nice Job Dave and Christophe- I am trying the same from CN87wk. Not easy > > but worth the effort. "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible > > takes a little longer" > > 73 Bob W7LRD > > Seattle, Wa. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dave Swanson" > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org, f4cqa at free.fr > > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:59:59 PM > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact > > > > Satellite friends and colleagues, > > > > I'm happy to announce that at 1732UTC on August 27th, 2015, A QSO was > > made between myself, KG5CCI, and F4CQA on Satellite FO-29. This was not > > a scheduled contact, I simply answered Christophe's CQ call. I knew it > > was a good contact at the time, but as I was portable up on Arkansas' > > Shinnall Mountain, I did not have the resources available to calculate > > distances. After returning to my office I began to log the contacts I > > had made, and noticed the "general" distance between EM34 and JN17 was > > in excess of 7500km. About the same time I came to this realization, my > > email chirped with a message from Christophe, who had came to the same > > conclusion. > > > > After some quick exchanges, and verifying 10 digit locators, we have > > settled on an official distance of 7599.959km between my grid of > > EM34ST11TL and Christophe's grid of JN17EA22OT, using the > > http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html website for calculations. > > > > To the best of our knowledge, referencing data found on Amsat-UK's > > website ( at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/06/uk-texas-extreme-dx-contact/ > > ) this breaks the previous distance records of 7537.799km between W5CBF > > and G4DOL, and the 7538.685km contact between K4FEG and DK1TB. > > > > I had my camera setup to record the pass as well, and you can view a raw > > clip of the contact here: > > > > https://youtu.be/orY0Re0IY30 > > > > If anyone has any questions about the contact, I'll be happy to answer > > them. Special thanks and a solid *GOOD-DX* to Christophe for the > > contact, and here's to many more. > > > > 73! > > > > -Dave, KG5CCI > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > -- > Skyler Fennell > amsatnet.info > KD?WHB > electricity440 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bobsmacbox at yahoo.com Thu Aug 27 20:20:55 2015 From: bobsmacbox at yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:20:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 1.2 GHz and 2.4 GHz Birds In-Reply-To: References: <55DE96C7.4010807@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have the Icom AG-2400 downconverter. Manual says it does not go below 2400 MHz. Nz2z Bob - Sent from my iPad > On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Daniel Cussen wrote: > > On 2395Mhz there is a strong, wide downlink only DVB-S PSK carrier > from the HAMTV downlink from the ISS. I am not sure you can pick it up > with your set up. On a spectrum analyser you see a wide hump around > two megahertz wide. It is very strong when directly overhead. It is > true circularly polarised, but you MUST use antennas with RHCP not > LHCP, or you will block the signal. > > At the moment it is broadcasting on every pass, with blank video, but > the DVB-S carrier is sending normal data. > > It is expected to turn off on Monday 31 August 2015, between 15:00 > and 15:10 UTC. until mid September as it's power supply is being > borrowed for another experiment. This should not affect other HAM > equipment on board the ISS such a packet. > > http://www.ariss-eu.org/columbus.htm > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kd8atf at yahoo.com Fri Aug 28 19:25:03 2015 From: kd8atf at yahoo.com (My Info) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:25:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 7599 km DX contact on FO-29 | AMSAT-UK Message-ID: <575387.88241.bm@smtp216.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/28/7599-km-dx-contact-on-fo-29/ From firefighterryan37 at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 19:29:40 2015 From: firefighterryan37 at gmail.com (ryan woods) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:29:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 7599 km DX contact on FO-29 | AMSAT-UK In-Reply-To: <575387.88241.bm@smtp216.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <575387.88241.bm@smtp216.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry was to quick on the button clicking! On Aug 28, 2015 3:26 PM, "My Info via AMSAT-BB" wrote: > http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/28/7599-km-dx-contact-on-fo-29/ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Aug 28 20:31:42 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:31:42 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Going to ARRL SW Division Convention next month? Message-ID: Hi! The 2015 ARRL Southwest Division Convention is coming up, on 11-13 September in Torrance CA. I had asked this question on Twitter, and I'll widen the question to -BB readers. Is anyone planning to go to this convention? I'm thinking about heading out there for at least Saturday of that weekend (12 September). I won't have a booth there, but hope to meet up with other satellite operators out there, and maybe get a lunch or dinner. I will probably head back to Phoenix late that evening, since I am not able to spend all of that weekend in southern California. Please e-mail me directly - or send me a tweet, if you are on Twitter - if you're going to be there. Thanks in advance, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From w7lrd at comcast.net Fri Aug 28 20:40:08 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 max distance Message-ID: <161811371.8424940.1440794408398.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hello from Seattle What is the maximum theoretical distance one can do on FO-29? 73 Bob W7LRD CN87wk From martha at amsat.org Fri Aug 28 21:07:30 2015 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:07:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed Message-ID: The AMSAT Office will be closed until Wednesday, September 9th. Enjoy the last of summer! -- 73- Martha (AMSAT's only employee) From db at db.net Fri Aug 28 21:08:46 2015 From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:08:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 max distance In-Reply-To: <161811371.8424940.1440794408398.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <161811371.8424940.1440794408398.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20150828210846.GA48276@night.db.net> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 08:40:08PM +0000, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > Hello from Seattle > What is the maximum theoretical distance one can do on FO-29? > 73 Bob W7LRD > CN87wk It depends on how fast you can communicate. ;) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri Aug 28 22:08:55 2015 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 23:08:55 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Operations thsi weekend Message-ID: <00560CDDBA8941E48CA48875E2481B73@allgood.local> Hi All, Apologies but it has not been possible to switch FC1 over to Transponder Mode this evening as usually happens. We expect that this will now occur tomorrow morning or maybe tomorrow evening thanks and 73 Graham From kc0bmf at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 00:27:56 2015 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:27:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 max distance In-Reply-To: <20150828210846.GA48276@night.db.net> References: <161811371.8424940.1440794408398.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <20150828210846.GA48276@night.db.net> Message-ID: And how tall of a mountain your on. Nice contact. 73 John W0JW On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Diane Bruce wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 08:40:08PM +0000, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > > Hello from Seattle > > What is the maximum theoretical distance one can do on FO-29? > > 73 Bob W7LRD > > CN87wk > > It depends on how fast you can communicate. ;) > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > -- > - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n4hf.philip at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 00:43:37 2015 From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:43:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] N4HF - SO-50, 1659UTC (east coast) pass, Friday Message-ID: Thanks to the 3 stations I worked today on SO-50. It was quite a different experience for me.... ...because I I was using a Kenwood D72A with headset/microphone and "manually controlled" Arrow antenna. I couldn't believe the audio quality difference this time.... ...because the last time I made SO-50 QSOs (March 2013, I think), I was just two different HTs, same Arrow antenna, and a speaker mic (but just for transmit). The receive radio was using the HT speaker, and hanging out of my pants' pocket :-) So, yeah, there's a lot I DIDN'T hear the last time I was on the bird. If anyone has a recording of todays' (Friday) pass, I'd appreciate hearing it. My intent today was to listen, to re-familiarize myself with the protocol, but the satellite was so loud (61 deg pass) and the audio so great, that when a lull occurred, I thought I'd try it anyway. So I didn't have a splitter going to an audio recorder (which I need to do soon, as I plan to (try to) demo SO-50 on loudspeaker at a special event - N4F/ham radio demo at a 10-day Fair in a couple of weeks; see Sept 2015 QST, pgs 65 and 94 for details). So my apologies if my QSOs weren't valid, if my protocol wasn't right; I was a bit nervous that the set-up worked as well as it did. I am AMAZED at the difference in using a headset! The only station I remember working is KI4RO, but don't know his gridsquare, so no valid QSO's on my end. So I'll be back on, but may be after the Fair ends around Sept 20 - and I plan to use the N4F call from the Fair; does anyone need EM85? :-) 73 de Philip N4HF (P.S. I have the equipment for linear sats - even HEOs - but let me get comfortable with SO-50 first, okay?) From kf5yxv at gmail.com Sat Aug 29 03:54:39 2015 From: kf5yxv at gmail.com (Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 22:54:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact In-Reply-To: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> References: <55DF7A4F.7080100@druidnetworks.com> Message-ID: <00b501d0e20e$6ef78880$4ce69980$@gmail.com> Dave and Chris Congratulations for the great contact! It is very impressive! It is the combination of a bunch of small details led by the skills and persistence of the operators. Good job!! 73! Hector, CO6CBF/W5CBF -----Mensaje original----- De: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] En nombre de Dave Swanson Enviado el: Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:00 PM Para: amsat-bb at amsat.org; f4cqa at free.fr Asunto: [amsat-bb] Extreme DX FO29 Contact Satellite friends and colleagues, I'm happy to announce that at 1732UTC on August 27th, 2015, A QSO was made between myself, KG5CCI, and F4CQA on Satellite FO-29. This was not a scheduled contact, I simply answered Christophe's CQ call. I knew it was a good contact at the time, but as I was portable up on Arkansas' Shinnall Mountain, I did not have the resources available to calculate distances. After returning to my office I began to log the contacts I had made, and noticed the "general" distance between EM34 and JN17 was in excess of 7500km. About the same time I came to this realization, my email chirped with a message from Christophe, who had came to the same conclusion. After some quick exchanges, and verifying 10 digit locators, we have settled on an official distance of 7599.959km between my grid of EM34ST11TL and Christophe's grid of JN17EA22OT, using the http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html website for calculations. To the best of our knowledge, referencing data found on Amsat-UK's website ( at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/06/uk-texas-extreme-dx-contact/ ) this breaks the previous distance records of 7537.799km between W5CBF and G4DOL, and the 7538.685km contact between K4FEG and DK1TB. I had my camera setup to record the pass as well, and you can view a raw clip of the contact here: https://youtu.be/orY0Re0IY30 If anyone has any questions about the contact, I'll be happy to answer them. Special thanks and a solid *GOOD-DX* to Christophe for the contact, and here's to many more. 73! -Dave, KG5CCI _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Aug 29 15:54:05 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:54:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] LAPAN-A2/ORARI update? Message-ID: <046701d0e272$ef3213d0$cd963b70$@com> Would one of our Indonesian friends be able to give us an update on the upcoming launch of their satellite? I see from https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto &tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Forari.web.id%2Fwp%2F%3Fpag e_id%3D950&edit-text= and https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1 &hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://orar i.web.id/wp/%3Fpage_id%3D920&usg=ALkJrhhkj1M9f01VohQw3ivG4ZohC_hTRQ that they are preparing for a launch at the end of September. This seems to line up with the Astrosat PSLV-XL C30 launch. I can't decipher if it is just for A2, or for LAPANSAT-ORARI, or if the satellites have been combined now? Is http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=152 still correct as to modes and frequencies? If the 650km, 8 degree inclination orbit is still correct, this will be a very interesting satellite for those below 30 degrees N and S latitudes, but unusable for those further north. 73, Drew KO4MA From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 29 18:00:40 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] LAPAN-A2/ORARI update? In-Reply-To: <046701d0e272$ef3213d0$cd963b70$@com> References: <046701d0e272$ef3213d0$cd963b70$@com> Message-ID: <1366786690.3158989.1440871241003.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The NasaSpaceFlight.com Indian Launch Schedule forum is suggesting: September 28 or 30 - PSLV (XL) C30 SLP- AstroSat-1 + LAPAN-A2 (Indonesia) +2 x NLS (Canada) + 4 x Lemur (UK) http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=586u5uls4f4evp6gqkfbe184o7&topic=1173.1140 which implies LAPAN-ORARI is not on that launch. 73 Trevor M5AKA On Saturday, 29 August 2015, 16:54, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: Would one of our Indonesian friends be able to give us an update on the upcoming launch of their satellite? I see from https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto &tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Forari.web.id%2Fwp%2F%3Fpag e_id%3D950&edit-text= and https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1 &hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://orar i.web.id/wp/%3Fpage_id%3D920&usg=ALkJrhhkj1M9f01VohQw3ivG4ZohC_hTRQ that they are preparing for a launch at the end of September. This seems to line up with the Astrosat PSLV-XL C30 launch. I can't decipher if it is just for A2, or for LAPANSAT-ORARI, or if the satellites have been combined now? Is http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=152 still correct as to modes and frequencies? If the 650km, 8 degree inclination orbit is still correct, this will be a very interesting satellite for those below 30 degrees N and S latitudes, but unusable for those further north. 73, Drew KO4MA _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 29 18:46:17 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] LAPAN-A2/ORARI update? In-Reply-To: <1366786690.3158989.1440871241003.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1366786690.3158989.1440871241003.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <845015900.3215176.1440873977740.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Although a paper says "Due to this cooperation, LAPAN-A2 is called LAPAN-ORARI" which might imply LAPAN-A2" carries the functionality that had been planned for LAPAN-ORARI ? See this paper: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/259844289_Development_of_Micro-satellite_Technology_at_the_Indonesian_National_Institute_of_Aeronautics_and_Space_%28LAPAN%29 73 Trevor M5AKA On Saturday, 29 August 2015, 19:04, M5AKA wrote: The NasaSpaceFlight.com Indian Launch Schedule forum is suggesting: September 28 or 30 - PSLV (XL) C30 SLP- AstroSat-1 + LAPAN-A2 (Indonesia) +2 x NLS (Canada) + 4 x Lemur (UK) http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=586u5uls4f4evp6gqkfbe184o7&topic=1173.1140 which implies LAPAN-ORARI is not on that launch. 73 Trevor M5AKA ? ? On Saturday, 29 August 2015, 16:54, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: ? Would one of our Indonesian friends be able to give us an update on the upcoming launch of their satellite? I see from https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto &tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Forari.web.id%2Fwp%2F%3Fpag e_id%3D950&edit-text= and https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1 &hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://orar i.web.id/wp/%3Fpage_id%3D920&usg=ALkJrhhkj1M9f01VohQw3ivG4ZohC_hTRQ that they are preparing for a launch at the end of September. This seems to line up with the Astrosat PSLV-XL C30 launch. I can't decipher if it is just for A2, or for LAPANSAT-ORARI, or if the satellites have been combined now? Is http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=152 still correct as to modes and frequencies? If the 650km, 8 degree inclination orbit is still correct, this will be a very interesting satellite for those below 30 degrees N and S latitudes, but unusable for those further north. 73, Drew KO4MA _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jimlist at zoho.com Sat Aug 29 20:27:19 2015 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:27:19 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 operations In-Reply-To: <55B228F4.3030002@zoho.com> References: <37BDC8A892C1465E8495B3B9AEAD7561@allgood.local> <55B228F4.3030002@zoho.com> Message-ID: <55E215A7.7040600@zoho.com> Hi Folks, I have just switched FUNcube-1 to full time transponder mode at approx 2025 UTC. Apologies that this was not done earlier - due to Ground Station availability. As usual, we will aim to switch back to 'auto' mode on Sunday evening (UTC). Enjoy and have FUN! 73s Jim G3WGM From skristof at etczone.net Sat Aug 29 21:14:54 2015 From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 17:14:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 operations In-Reply-To: <55E215A7.7040600@zoho.com> References: <37BDC8A892C1465E8495B3B9AEAD7561@allgood.local><55B228F4.3030002@zoho.com> <55E215A7.7040600@zoho.com> Message-ID: On the other hand I was able to download over 90 telemetry packets on a single FunCube-1 pass over the midwestern USA this morning. So, no problem here! Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Heck" To: "AMSAT BB" Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:27 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 operations > > Hi Folks, > > I have just switched FUNcube-1 to full time transponder mode at approx > 2025 UTC. > > Apologies that this was not done earlier - due to Ground Station > availability. > > As usual, we will aim to switch back to 'auto' mode on Sunday evening > (UTC). > > Enjoy and have FUN! > > 73s Jim G3WGM > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From wao at vfr.net Sun Aug 30 06:54:40 2015 From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:54:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-242 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <55E2A8B0.1090204@vfr.net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-242 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by 15 September * 2015 AMSAT Symposium Dayton Hotel Reservation Correction * AMSAT-NA Office Closed until September 9th * New Distance Record Set on FO-29 by KG5CI and F4CQA * Bring the Space Station Into Your Classroom With NASA's STEM on Station Website * IARU Reiterates Commitment to Coordinate Satellites Only Within International Band Plans * CPUT planning successor to Africa?s first nanosatellite * ASU Chosen to Lead Lunar CubeSat Mission * AMSAT Events * ARISS News SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-242.01 ANS-242 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 242.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE August 30, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-242.01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by 15 September Ballots were mailed to AMSAT-NA members in good standing by 15 JULY 2015, and must be returned to the AMSAT-NA office by 15 SEP 2015 in order to be counted. Those sent outside North America were sent by air mail. Your completed ballot should be returned as promptly as possible, and those from outside North America preferably by air mail or other expedited means. This year there are eight candidates: Barry Baines, WD4ASW Jerry Buxton, N0JY Steve Coy, K8UD Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA Mark Hammond, N8MH EMike McCardel, KC8YLD Bob McGwier, N4HY Bruce Paige, KK5DO The four candidates receiving the highest number of votes will be seated as voting Board Members with two year terms. The two candidates receiving the next highest number of votes will be non-voting Alternate Board Members with terms of one year. Please vote for no more than four candidates. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the Board. Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT-NA. [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2015 AMSAT Symposium Dayton Hotel Reservation Correction The 2015 AMSAT Space Symposium will be held Friday through Sunday, Oct 16, 17, 18, 2015 in Dayton, Ohio. This year we will be at the Crowne Plaza Hotel, 33 East 5th Street, in downtown Dayton, a 3.5 star Hotel which has been recently renovated. Here is the corrected and latest hotel reservation information provided by Crowne Plaza: + Reservations toll-free phone number: 1-800-689-5586 + Group rate reservation code: "AMSAT" + Deadline for discounted reservations: September 17, 2015 by 3:00 PM US eastern time The Symposium Committee announced that arrangements are made for a tour of the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton for Monday, October 19. You may wish to extend your hotel reservation until Monday if you would like to participate on this tour. You must call the 800 number for Crowne Plaza to make your hotel reservations. Registration for the Space Symposium and events can be done on-line via the AMSAT Store: http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ The latest 2015 AMSAT Space Symposium information is posted on the web at: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 -or- click on the "Events" tab at the top of the page at http://www.amsat.org [ANS thanks the 2015 AMSAT Symposium Posse for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-NA Office Closed until September 9th The AMSAT Office in Kensington, MD will be closed until Wednesday, September 9th. Enjoy the last of summer! [ANS thanks Martha at AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- New Distance Record Set on FO-29 by KG5CI and F4CQA Dave, KG5CCI reported that at 1732UTC on August 27th, 2015, a QSO was made between himself, KG5CCI, and F4CQA on via the FO-29 satellite. Dave explained, "This was not a scheduled contact, I simply answered Christophe's CQ call. I knew it was a good contact at the time, but as I was portable up on Arkansas' Shinnall Mountain, I did not have the resources available to calculate distances. After returning to my office I began to log the contacts I had made, and noticed the estimated distance between EM34 and JN17 was in excess of 7500km. About the same time I came to this realization, my email chirped with a message from Christophe, who had came to the same conclusion." After some quick exchanges, and verifying 10 digit locators, Dave and Christophe have settled on an official distance of 7599.959km between Dave's grid of EM34ST11TL and Christophe's grid of JN17EA22OT. The http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html website was used for distance calculations. Dave concluded, "To the best of our knowledge, referencing data found on Amsat-UK's website (at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/06/uk-texas-extreme-dx-contact/) this breaks the previous distance records of 7537.799km between W5CBF and G4DOL, and the 7538.685km contact between K4FEG and DK1TB. Dave had a camera setup to record the pass as well, and you can view a raw clip of the contact here: https://youtu.be/orY0Re0IY30 If anyone has any questions about the contact, Dave will be happy to answer them. Special thanks and a solid *GOOD-DX* to Christophe for the contact. [ANS thanks Dave, KG5CCI for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bring the Space Station Into Your Classroom With NASA's STEM on Station Website NASA is celebrating NASA astronaut Scott Kelly, Russian cosmonaut Mikhail Kornienko and their yearlong mission to the International Space Station with the launch of the new STEM on Station website! The website features lesson plans, videos and up-to-the-minute education news. Follow along with Scott and Mikhail to find out what we hope to learn from their extended mission. Get to know the International Space Station, and learn how work there benefits life on Earth as well as prepares us for our future journey to Mars. The STEM on Station website also features Learning Launchers. These "Teacher Toolkits" focus on research and activities related to the space station. Each month, a new Learning Launcher will feature One-Year Mission research or another topic related to the space station. Use lesson plans, videos and related resources to bring the International Space Station into your classroom. Since more topics will be featured, check back often to see what's coming next. We are working "Off the Earth, For the Earth . and in the Classroom"! To check out the new website, visit http://www.nasa.gov/education/STEMstation. [ANS thanks the NASA Education Express Message -- Aug. 27, 2015] --------------------------------------------------------------------- IARU Reiterates Commitment to Coordinate Satellites Only Within International Band Plans In apparent reference to efforts by China's Amateur Satellite Group (CAMSAT) to coordinate operating frequencies for nine satellites set to launch in early September, the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) has made it clear that it will not coordinate frequencies that do not conform with accepted band plans for all three IARU regions. The IARU has informed CAMSAT CEO Alan Kung, BA1DU, that it was only able to coordinate uplink and downlink frequencies for two of the nine spacecraft (CAS-3/XW-2D and E), but it has not made that letter public. CAMSAT has said it plans to launch the nine satellites, all carrying Amateur Radio payloads, on September 7 or 8. "The IARU Satellite Adviser, Hans van de Groenendaal, ZS6AKV, and his advisory panel are mandated to coordinate frequencies within the IARU band plans for amateur satellites," said a public statement released on August 20 by IARU Secretary Rod Stafford, W6ROD. "Coordinated frequencies must comply with band plans that are common to all three IARU regions. Satellites coordinated outside these plans could cause interference to terrestrial amateur operations in other regions." The IARU statement suggested that the popularity and high occupancy of 2 meters "led to a request by satellite builders for coordination outside the spectrum reserved for satellites in the IARU band plans (145.800-146.000 MHz), as not enough channels are available to satisfy their requirements." The IARU said that, in theory, satellites could be programmed only to operate while orbiting above their countries of origin, but "because satellite orbits make it difficult to pinpoint operations, spillover to other regions may occur during parts of the orbit. Accordingly, IARU will not coordinate frequencies for satellites which are planned to operate outside the internationally aligned IARU band plans for amateur satellites." The IARU statement noted that its frequency coordination service aims to "maximize spectrum utilization and avoid possible interference to other satellites and ground stations." The IARU recommended that satellite groups "work on a sharing plan or use other parts of the Amateur Service spectrum designated for satellite operation," and it suggested resurrecting 10 meters - once popular as a satellite band, but largely unused today - as one possibility for uplink channels. "The band segment 29,300-29,510 MHz has been used for Amateur-Satellite downlinks for more than 40 years, beginning with Australis-OSCAR 5 in 1970 and AMSAT-OSCAR 6, AMSAT's first communication satellite, in 1972," the IARU statement noted. Just one amateur satellite actively uses a 29 MHz downlink - AMSAT-OSCAR 7, launched in 1974. Conceding that 29 MHz downlink frequencies "would not be practical for today's very small satellites" due to antenna size considerations, the IARU said the band could be used for uplinks, even with small receiving antennas, because Earth stations can run sufficient transmit power to overcome the disadvantage. "The IARU Satellite Adviser and his panel believe that the 10 meter band offers a good alternative to 2 meter uplinks," the IARU said. AMSAT President Barry Baines, WD4ASW, said his organization's Advanced Satellite Communications and Exploration of New Technology (ASCENT) initiative is exploring alternatives to address the proliferation of CubeSats and the resulting pressure on 2 meters and 70 centimeters. He pointed out that the 200 kHz IARU allocation on 2 meters "is not very wide" given the number of satellites being launched, but the use of 10 meters is impractical in this era of CubeSats. "It is incumbent upon the Amateur-Satellite community to develop new ways of 'keeping Amateur Radio in space' that take advantage of other bands and provide enhanced services through appropriate technologies, given the need to find suitable bandwidth for an increasing number of satellites," Baines told ARRL. He said using digital technology could provide multi-channel capability, and design work is already under way. Transitioning to "underutilized amateur spectrum on bands such as 5 GHz and 10 GHz is also a possibility, Baines added, although he was quick to point out that AMSAT does not intend to abandon use of 2 meters and 70 centimeters for its own satellite projects. The IARU said that when a large group of satellite sharing the same band is launched, "they will soon drift apart which enhances the opportunity to share the same frequencies. For example, during the initial phase, just after launch, a time-sharing system could be used to monitor the payloads before initializing transponders and other systems." "Currently the IARU team also coordinates frequencies for satellites built by universities and educational groups in an effort to maximize spectrum utilization and mitigate any possible interference to Amateur Radio operations," the IARU statement concluded. "The IARU is committed to work with these groups and with the ITU to find other spectrum for these satellites." [ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- CPUT planning successor to Africa?s first nanosatellite Following on the successes of ZACube-1, a.k.a. TshepisoSat, ZACube-2 is the second instalment in the Cape Peninsula University of Technology (CPUT) F?SATI mission series. The satellite will serve as technology demonstrator for essential subsystems and form the basis on which an innovative Software Defined Radio (SDR) platform will be developed as primary payload. The SDR is highly flexible to address a wide range of communication needs and will be a test bed to validate vessel detection. Additionally, the satellite will feature a medium resolution imager as secondary payload to demonstrate the feasibility of future remote sensing applications such as ocean colour monitoring and large fire tracking. This paper details the conceptual design and highlights the choices made around the proposed development http://www.amsatsa.org.za/ZACube-2%20%20The%20successor%20to%20Africa%E2%80%99s %20first%20nanosatellite.pdf Read the recent article by Hans van de Groenendaal ZS6AKV in EngineerIT magazine at http://www.ee.co.za/article/cput-planning-successor-africas-first-nanosatellite .html Southern African Amateur Radio Satellite Association (SA AMSAT) http://www.amsatsa.org.za/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ASU Chosen to Lead Lunar CubeSat Mission A spacecraft the size of a shoebox with Arizona origins will soon be orbiting our nearest neighbor to create a map of water-ice on the moon. The NASA-selected CubeSat will be designed, built and operated at Arizona State University and is one piece of the agency's larger mission to fully characterize the water content at the lunar South Pole in preparation for exploration, resource utilization and improved understanding of the moon's geologic history. The spacecraft, called the Lunar Polar Hydrogen Mapper, or "LunaH-Map" for short, will produce the most detailed map to date of the moon's water deposits, unveiling new details about the depth and distribution of the ice that has been tentatively identified from previous missions. Confirming and mapping those deposits in detail will help NASA understand how much water might be available and will help inform NASA's strategy for sending humans farther into the solar system. The ability to search for useful assets, such as hydrogen, can potentially enable astronauts to manufacture fuel and other provisions needed to sustain a crew for a journey to Mars, reducing the amount of fuel and weight that NASA would need to transport from Earth. This is the third major space project for which NASA has selected ASU in the past year, and it is the first planetary science spacecraft mission that will be led by ASU. It represents a major achievement for planetary geologist Craig Hardgrove, the School of Earth and Space Exploration postdoctoral research associate who proposed the mission and will be overseeing it as principal investigator. "All of our previous NASA mission involvement has consisted of us having instruments on other people's missions. This is ASU's first interplanetary mission - this is our mission, our chance to trail blaze," said Jim Bell, professor in ASU's School of Earth and Space Exploration and mission deputy principal investigator. "It's a privilege to be leading this fantastic team, and I want to make sure we do it right and deliver on our promise to NASA," Hardgrove said. CubeSats are part of a growing movement that is revolutionizing space exploration because of their small size and low cost of construction and operation, effectively opening the door to early-career scientists, providing them an opportunity to operate missions of their own. "How much good science can we do with these small missions? We don't know the answer, but we will be one of the first groups to try to answer the question," Bell said. Although this is one of NASA's first forays into deep-space science experiments with CubeSats, the technology isn't new to NASA and universities, which have recognized their value and have been building them for years. "CubeSats are a model for a new way to gain access to space, but they are also a model for how to teach students how to design, build, operate and troubleshoot a real space mission," said Bell, who also directs ASU's NewSpace Initiative. "Students want to know how a spacecraft works, but not just from a PowerPoint presentation. This is their opportunity to build something. Break it. Fix it. Test it again. Launch it. Operate it. And that is the beauty of CubeSats; they provide students with the experience of going through the complete mission process." LunaH-Map will be designed, built and tested on ASU's Tempe campus, in partnership with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and several other partners supplying space-qualified hardware and services. LunaH-Map leverages technology from at least six small commercial space companies with expert knowledge and experience in building spacecraft hardware: Radiation Monitoring Devices, Busek, KinetX, NASA's Ames Research Center, Catholic University of America, and Planetary Resources. Overseeing all aspects of the spacecraft engineering is the mission's chief engineer and co-investigator, Jekan Thanga, an assistant professor in ASU's School of Earth and Space Exploration. Much of the design and development of LunaH-Map will be done in his Space and Terrestrial Robotic Exploration (SpaceTREx) Laboratory and clean rooms in ASU's state-of-the-art Interdisciplinary Science and Technology Building 4, which with their glass windows offer an opportunity for visitors to watch the spacecraft being built, tested and operated. In total, there will be 15 to 20 ASU professionals, including students, working on all aspects of the design, development, testing and delivery of the spacecraft. "Within the United States there only about seven institutions that are doing interplanetary CubeSat missions," Thanga said. "ASU brings together scientists and engineers to work on radical new concepts together, from the start. This innovative collaboration strategy leads to greater science return, and more creativity and capability." Other co-investigators from ASU include Professor Mark Robinson and Associate Research Professor Paul Scowen from the School of Earth and Space Exploration. LunaH-Map, along with a number of other deep-space CubeSats, is a candidate to fly to lunar orbit on Exploration Mission-1, the first flight of NASA's Space Launch System (SLS), which will be the most powerful rocket ever built and will enable astronauts in the Orion spacecraft to travel deeper into the solar system. NASA will provide several CubeSat missions spots on the maiden SLS mission. LunaH-Map is a 6U ("6 unit") CubeSat. One "unit" is a cube measuring 4.7 inches on a side; LunaH-Map strings six of these CubeSat building blocks together and weighs as much as a small child (about 30 pounds). But just because it is small, doesn't mean it is less sophisticated - in this case, as with our smartphones, size doesn't compromise capabilities. LunaH- Map's design allows for all the necessary sensors and instruments to be securely packaged inside. A jack-in-the-box-like deployer releases the spacecraft and panels pop out like little wings. Once it arrives at the moon, the tiny spacecraft will embark on a 60-day science mission, consisting of 141 science orbits, using a suite of science instruments. Its main instrument is a neutron detector designed to sense the presence of hydrogen by measuring the energies of neutrons that have interacted with and subsequently leaked back out of the material in the top meter of the lunar surface. "We know from previous missions there is an increased abundance of hydrogen at the lunar poles. But we don't know how much or exactly where," Hardgrove said. "NASA has funded three different CubeSats to learn more: Lunar IceCube, Lunar FLASHLIGHT and LunaH-Map. They all look for water in different ways and provide different types of information." As LunaH-Map flies over the lunar South Pole at a very low altitude, it counts the energies of neutrons that have leaked out of the lunar surface. The energy distribution of the neutrons that hit the detectors tells us about the amount of hydrogen that's buried in the top meter of lunar soil. LunaH-Map will map the hydrogen content of the entire South Pole of the moon, including within permanently shadowed regions at high resolution. LunaH-Map will measure the bulk hydrogen content, up to a meter beneath the lunar surface, while the instruments on both Lunar IceCube and FLASHLIGHT will tell us about the very top few microns. LunaH-Map will create the highest-resolution maps of regional near-surface (top-meter) water-ice distribution across the entire South Pole of the moon. "Science is a human endeavor, and part of that is knowing each other and trusting each other. And when it comes to a NASA mission and taxpayer dollars to do exploration, you got to have the credentials. You have to be trusted, you need to have proven yourself, you need to show that you can make it happen and you won't fail. And we've got a history now where that's the case," said Linda Elkins-Tanton, director of ASU's School of Earth and Space Exploration. http://www.moondaily.com/reports/ASU_chosen_to_lead_lunar_CubeSat_mission_ 999.html [ANS thanks SpaceDaily.com for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Events Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around the country. Examples of these events are radio club meetings where AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations, forums, and/or demonstrations). *Saturday and Sunday, 5-6 September - ARRL Roanoke Division Convention Shelby, NC Hamfest, AMSAT Forum scheduled for Saturday *Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, October 16-18 2015, AMSAT Symposium in Dayton OH (Dayton Crown Plaza) *Saturday, 7 November 2015 ? Oro Valley Amateur Radio Club Hamfest in Marana AZ *Saturday and Sunday, 7-8 November 2015 ? Stone Mountain Hamfest and ARRL Georgia Section Convention in Lawrenceville GA *Saturday, 5 December 2015 ? Superstition Superfest 2015 in Mesa AZ [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Successful Contacts The direct ARISS contact with Kantonschule am Burggraben, Switzerland on August 24, 12:24 UTC, via HB9SG was successful. Contact was established at 12:24 UTC, only 50 seconds later than expected. 18 questions were answered. The downlink signal was loud and clear. Only during the first 4 questions there was a bit QRM due to the antenna location in the middle of the city. The audience was about 300 persons in the contact room and about 1000 students and 230 others via the live-stream on the Internet. TV stations, 3 radio stations "Radio SRF3" and nationwide newspapers covered the event. TV links: http://www.tvo-online.ch/?playlist=news (TV-Ostschweiz) ?Erde an ISS? http://www.teletop.ch/programm/heute-auf-tele-top/art/heute-auf-tele-top- 001691193/ (Tele Top) (look at minute 16.07) Radio links: http://www.srf.ch/wissen/technik/aus-der-aula-ins-all-eine-kanti-in-st-gallen- funkt-mit-der-iss (SRF3 - Nationales Radio) Pictures can be found on http://cloud.syso.ch/photo/#!Albums . Maconaquah School Corporation, Bunker Hill, IN, direct via WD9GIU The ISS callsign was NA1SS The astronaut was Kimiya Yui KG5BPH Maconaquah had a very successful contact. All 20 questions were asked and there was one extra. They might have been able to have a few more but they signed off about 1 minute before LOS. It was an outstanding contact. Upcoming ARISS Contacts Sochi, Russia, direct via TBD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled cosmonaut is Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Contact is a go for 2015-08-29 11:15 UTC Ulvila Upper Secondary School, Finland, direct via OH1F The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS Contact is a go for: Tue 2015-09-01 11:44:03 UTC Kazakhstan, direct via TBD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Aidyn Aimbetov Contact is a go for 2015-09-08 07:10 UTC Watch http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled. [ANS thanks ARISS, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Joe Spier, K6WAO k6wao at amsat dot org -- -73 k6wao Joe Spier k6wao at amsat.net From quadpugh at bellsouth.net Sun Aug 30 09:00:54 2015 From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh K5QXJ) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 04:00:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] share a room Message-ID: <006901d0e302$61d01150$257033f0$@net> I will be attending the symposium in Dayton. I would like to share room expenses. If you are interested please email me off line Thanks nick Office 337 593 8700 Cell 337 258 2527 Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School Disagree I Learn From yb0az at yahoo.com Sun Aug 30 03:42:21 2015 From: yb0az at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?Q?Wisnu_Widjaja_YB=C3=98AZ?=) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:42:21 +0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] LAPAN-A2/ORARI update? In-Reply-To: <046701d0e272$ef3213d0$cd963b70$@com> References: <046701d0e272$ef3213d0$cd963b70$@com> Message-ID: Dear Drew Thanks for your email. Yes the LAPAN ORARI (LAPAN A2) satellite is planned to launch at the end of September 2015 from India. It's an equatorial satellite have the amateur payloads: FM Voice repeater and APRS digipeater. Best 73 de Wisnu YB?AZ Sent from my iPhone 6 > On Aug 29, 2015, at 22:54, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > > Would one of our Indonesian friends be able to give us an update on the upcoming launch of their satellite? > > I see from https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Forari.web.id%2Fwp%2F%3Fpage_id%3D950&edit-text= > and https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://orari.web.id/wp/%3Fpage_id%3D920&usg=ALkJrhhkj1M9f01VohQw3ivG4ZohC_hTRQ > that they are preparing for a launch at the end of September. This seems to line up with the Astrosat PSLV-XL C30 launch. I can?t decipher if it is just for A2, or for LAPANSAT-ORARI, or if the satellites have been combined now? Is http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=152 still correct as to modes and frequencies? > > If the 650km, 8 degree inclination orbit is still correct, this will be a very interesting satellite for those below 30 degrees N and S latitudes, but unusable for those further north. > > 73, Drew KO4MA From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sun Aug 30 12:32:50 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:32:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] LAPAN-A2/ORARI update? In-Reply-To: References: <046701d0e272$ef3213d0$cd963b70$@com> Message-ID: <05c901d0e31f$fc4eac10$f4ec0430$@com> Thank you Wisnu, Best of luck with the launch, and please send us any further information that you can. Is the 8 degree, 650km orbit correct? 73, Drew KO4MA From: Wisnu Widjaja YB?AZ [mailto:yb0az at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:42 PM To: Andrew Glasbrenner Cc: AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: LAPAN-A2/ORARI update? Dear Drew Thanks for your email. Yes the LAPAN ORARI (LAPAN A2) satellite is planned to launch at the end of September 2015 from India. It's an equatorial satellite have the amateur payloads: FM Voice repeater and APRS digipeater. Best 73 de Wisnu YB?AZ Sent from my iPhone 6 On Aug 29, 2015, at 22:54, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: Would one of our Indonesian friends be able to give us an update on the upcoming launch of their satellite? I see from https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto &tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Forari.web.id%2Fwp%2F%3Fpage_id%3D950&edit-text= and https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1 &hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://orari.web.id/wp/%3Fpage_id%3D920&usg=ALkJrhhkj1M9f01VohQw3ivG4ZohC_hTRQ that they are preparing for a launch at the end of September. This seems to line up with the Astrosat PSLV-XL C30 launch. I can?t decipher if it is just for A2, or for LAPANSAT-ORARI, or if the satellites have been combined now? Is http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=152 still correct as to modes and frequencies? If the 650km, 8 degree inclination orbit is still correct, this will be a very interesting satellite for those below 30 degrees N and S latitudes, but unusable for those further north. 73, Drew KO4MA From yb0az at yahoo.com Sun Aug 30 13:59:22 2015 From: yb0az at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?Q?Wisnu_Widjaja_YB=C3=98AZ?=) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:59:22 +0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] LAPAN-A2/ORARI update? In-Reply-To: <05c901d0e31f$fc4eac10$f4ec0430$@com> References: <046701d0e272$ef3213d0$cd963b70$@com> <05c901d0e31f$fc4eac10$f4ec0430$@com> Message-ID: Dear Drew LAPAN-A2 also known as LAPAN ORARI satellite will be launched together on a mission astrosat India's PSLV-C30 / astrosat on 28 Sep 2015. It will operate in the near equatorial orbit between 6 to 8 degree, 650km and able to cross the territory of Indonesia 14 times a day. I will update to you as soon as possible after this bird on orbit. Best 73 de Wisnu YB?AZ Sent from my iPhone 6 > On Aug 30, 2015, at 19:32, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > > Thank you Wisnu, > > Best of luck with the launch, and please send us any further information that you can. Is the 8 degree, 650km orbit correct? > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > From: Wisnu Widjaja YB?AZ [mailto:yb0az at yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:42 PM > To: Andrew Glasbrenner > Cc: AMSAT-BB > Subject: Re: LAPAN-A2/ORARI update? > > Dear Drew > > Thanks for your email. > > Yes the LAPAN ORARI (LAPAN A2) satellite is planned to launch at the end of September 2015 from India. > > It's an equatorial satellite have the amateur payloads: FM Voice repeater and APRS digipeater. > > Best 73 de Wisnu YB?AZ > > Sent from my iPhone 6 > > On Aug 29, 2015, at 22:54, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > > Would one of our Indonesian friends be able to give us an update on the upcoming launch of their satellite? > > I see from https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Forari.web.id%2Fwp%2F%3Fpage_id%3D950&edit-text= > and https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://orari.web.id/wp/%3Fpage_id%3D920&usg=ALkJrhhkj1M9f01VohQw3ivG4ZohC_hTRQ > that they are preparing for a launch at the end of September. This seems to line up with the Astrosat PSLV-XL C30 launch. I can?t decipher if it is just for A2, or for LAPANSAT-ORARI, or if the satellites have been combined now? Is http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=152 still correct as to modes and frequencies? > > If the 650km, 8 degree inclination orbit is still correct, this will be a very interesting satellite for those below 30 degrees N and S latitudes, but unusable for those further north. > > 73, Drew KO4MA From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Sun Aug 30 15:59:43 2015 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 Error Help Message-ID: <2042305982.2996855.1440950383308.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I have tried 6 times to install SATPC32c in my Windows 10 computer. ?Everything looks fine until shortly before the install is finished I get the error contained in the attachment. When I click OK, it jumps to finish but after I click on finish, the program is not installed. ?Any ideas? From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Sun Aug 30 16:46:27 2015 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:46:27 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: SATPC32 Error Help In-Reply-To: <1200840758.2965052.1440950434253.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2042305982.2996855.1440950383308.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1200840758.2965052.1440950434253.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <55E33363.6060001@t-online.de> First UNZIP the downloaded file into an empty folder. Then right click on the file name "setup" and choose the option "Run as administrator", even if you are the administrator. Under Windows 7 and higher the Windows Explorer displays the content of the ZIP file. That is no extraction, hower, and clicking on "setup" causes the errro message. In the Windows Explorer look for the extraction button to extract the ZIP file. 73s, Erich DK1TB Am 30.08.2015 um 18:00 schrieb Douglas Phelps: > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* Douglas Phelps > *To:* AMSAT BB > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:59 AM > *Subject:* SATPC32 Error Help > > I have tried 6 times to install SATPC32c in my Windows 10 > computer. Everything looks fine until shortly before the install > is finished I get the error contained in the attachment. > > When I click OK, it jumps to finish but after I click on finish, > the program is not installed. Any ideas? > > > > > > > From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Sun Aug 30 16:55:35 2015 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: SATPC32 Error Help In-Reply-To: <55E33363.6060001@t-online.de> References: <55E33363.6060001@t-online.de> Message-ID: <988020000.3006788.1440953735625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> You nailed it. ?I thought Administrator worked the same in Windows 10 as it does in Windows 7 (where your account is always the Administrator). ?I right clicked on Run as Administrator and everything installed fine. ?Another lersson in the quirks of Windows 10. ?Thanks. DougK9DLP From: Erich Eichmann To: Douglas Phelps ; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: SATPC32 Error Help First UNZIP the downloaded file into an empty folder. Then right click on the file name "setup" and choose the option "Run as administrator", even if you are the administrator. Under Windows 7 and higher the Windows Explorer displays the content of the ZIP file. That is no extraction, hower, and clicking on "setup" causes the errro message. In the Windows Explorer look for the extraction button to extract the ZIP file. 73s, Erich DK1TB Am 30.08.2015 um 18:00 schrieb Douglas Phelps: > >? ? ----- Forwarded Message ----- >? ? *From:* Douglas Phelps >? ? *To:* AMSAT BB >? ? *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:59 AM >? ? *Subject:* SATPC32 Error Help > >? ? I have tried 6 times to install SATPC32c in my Windows 10 >? ? computer.? Everything looks fine until shortly before the install >? ? is finished I get the error contained in the attachment. > >? ? When I click OK, it jumps to finish but after I click on finish, >? ? the program is not installed.? Any ideas? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Sun Aug 30 18:31:11 2015 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 registration code Message-ID: <1141381945.3047186.1440959471150.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I have a registered version of SATPC32. ?I installed on a new computer but cannot find my registration number. Is there a way to read my registration number from my licensed and running SATPC32?? DougK9DLP? From kx9x at yahoo.com Sun Aug 30 21:06:20 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] KX9X/p August Grid Trip - Logs Uploaded Message-ID: <2090557385.1195717.1440968780884.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all- All the logs from my grid trip last week have been uploaded to LOTW.?Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From aa5uk at yahoo.com Sun Aug 30 21:39:00 2015 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 registration code In-Reply-To: <1141381945.3047186.1440959471150.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1141381945.3047186.1440959471150.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1814074445.3098926.1440970740489.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Try: C:\Users\YOUR NAME\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32 Look for UserDaten.Txt? Your registration will be there.? 73, Adrian AA5UK From: Douglas Phelps To: AMSAT BB Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 1:31 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 registration code I have a registered version of SATPC32. ?I installed on a new computer but cannot find my registration number. Is there a way to read my registration number from my licensed and running SATPC32?? DougK9DLP? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From Mvivona at yahoo.com Sun Aug 30 21:41:43 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:41:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject) Message-ID: What is the recommended PC program to plot a grid square map of satellite QSOs? Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Aug 30 21:43:15 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:43:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GCMWin is what most of us use. http://www.qsl.net/sm3gsj/ K8YSE has some sample configuration files on his site: http://www.papays.com/sat/gridmaps/gridmaps.html 73, Paul, N8HM On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB wrote: > What is the recommended PC program to plot a grid square map of satellite QSOs? > > Michael Vivona > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sun Aug 30 22:05:20 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 22:05:20 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRplay RSP as downlink receiver Message-ID: Hi! In July, I ordered an SDRplay RSP SDR receiver from the SDRplay web site: http://www.sdrplay.com/ This is an SDR receiver that covers from 100 kHz to 2 GHz without gaps, at bandwidths from 200 kHz up to 8 MHz. There is front-end filtering across the entire range this radio covers - something that caught my eye for use as a satellite downlink receiver with an FT-817ND. At US$ 149 plus shipping from the UK, it is a good value. It is a small box, larger than the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ I have been using for some time. After some issues getting this device working on Windows 8.1 and 10 tablets, resolved with a new API installer, I have been testing my SDRplay on my 8- and 10-inch tablets - now running Windows 10, after being upgraded earlier this month. Over this weekend, after installing the new API and ExtIO drivers needed for HDSDR to see the SDRplay receiver, I wanted to try it to work satellites. I made an attempt on Friday evening, during an AO-73 pass. Although I could hear the satellite, I could not hear myself with the SDRplay and HDSDR. I went back to the documentation and the different interfaces in HDSDR that control the SDRplay, and I figured out the issue. SDRplay's ExtIO driver assumes the user will want to reduce the amount of gain in the receiver, where I want as much as I can get for working satellites. After making some changes, I successfully worked another AO-73 pass this morning. I made two QSOs, with Leo W7JPI in southern Arizona and Brad KG7NXH a few miles/km southeast of me in the Phoenix area. Other than the normal delay I hear from the SDR receiver and software (I hear the same sort of delay when I use my FUNcube Dongle Pro+), the SDRplay receiver did a good job. As I have done when using my FUNcube dongle, I made an RF recording of this pass in HDSDR. That WAV file is big - for an 8:35 recording, it was about 450 MB in size. I also made an audio recording, in the same way I would if I used my second FT-817ND as the downlink receiver - audio splitter plugged into the tablet, feeding audio to both my headset/mic and Sony digital audio recorder. With these tablets, I find that the performance of HDSDR is very poor when it is trying to write both AF and RF recordings. Since I can make an AF recording away from the tablet, I let HDSDR do the RF recording. The default bandwidth used by the SDRplay receiver is 1.536 MHz. It can go up to 8 MHz, but my tablets have issues when the bandwidth is more than the 1.536 MHz default value. When I work our satellites, whether using my tablets or a laptop, I'll probably go with the 200 kHz bandwidth. This is all I really need, and this will help keep the RF recordings from taking over the drives in the tablets and laptop. :-) I have been posting more details about how I have been using the SDRplay to work satellites in a QRZ.com satellite forum thread. That thread is at: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/sdrplay-as-satellite-downlink-receiver.490793/ My HDSDR RF recording, along with screenshots and photos of my station, I have put them in my Dropbox space, accessible at: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6nl39qjkfyw5y5h/AADynnchNPayKAnU0XYwl3TCa?lst I am not planning on selling my FUNcube Dongle Pro+. It is still a good SDR receiver for working our satellites. It is smaller than the SDRplay, it works with the FUNcube Dashboard software, and sales of the dongle support the FUNcube project. It is nice that there is another SDR device that is showing promise as a downlink receiver for our satellites, and at a reasonable price. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From johnbrier at gmail.com Sun Aug 30 23:56:15 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:56:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Video of my reception of ISS contact with Machonaquah School Message-ID: Took over half the day but I finally finished editing video of my reception of the ISS contact with Machonaquah School in Bunker Hill, Indiana from this past Thursday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJbYHSMwt0 John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Mon Aug 31 05:28:35 2015 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:28:35 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 registration In-Reply-To: <781058261.3140849.1440984039990.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <781058261.3140849.1440984039990.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <55E3E603.4040009@t-online.de> The program stores the registration code in the file UserDaten.txt in the DATA folder "SatPC32". The path to that folder is shown in the foot line of menu "Satellites". The folder "AppData" in the path is hidden by default. Therefore make first hidden folders and files visible (Windows Explorer - Tools - Folder Options - View). Open the file with Notepad, note your password and enter it in the new installation. 73s, Erich, DK1TB A Am 31.08.2015 um 03:20 schrieb Douglas Phelps: > I have a working and registered SATPC32 on my Windows 7 computer. I > am trying to get SATPC32 working on a Windows 10 computer. I have > lost my registration number but the Windows 7 computer has it and > works fine. I was told to transfer userdaten from the old computer to > the new one. Doing this does not work. Can you help me. Thanks, > > Doug > K9DLP From quadpugh at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 31 10:17:58 2015 From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh K5QXJ) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:17:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Department head at the University of Louisiana opening Message-ID: <00ee01d0e3d6$503c9b00$f0b5d100$@net> The University of Louisiana is looking for a department head for EECE. If you know of a qualified person who would like to lead a satellite team, a IEEE champion robot team, likes great food, culture, hunting, fishing and teach please contact me off list. Thanks nick Office 337 593 8700 Cell 337 258 2527 Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School Disagree I Learn From iz5xrc at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 12:38:59 2015 From: iz5xrc at gmail.com (Fabio Azzarello IZ5XRC) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:38:59 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] SEE13 software for Oscar 13 Message-ID: Hello, reading the old SatGen I've found this particular issue: ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/articles/satgen/sgen383.txt Is anybody aware of the SEE13 sw ? Is it still available somewhere? Thanks! 73s Fabio IZ5XRC (ex iw8qku) From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 18:19:48 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:19:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV July Diploma status update Message-ID: They said they would send out diplomas in early August, and since they haven't gone out and it's basically September I asked for an update (while thanking them profusely for their volunteer efforts). This is what I got back: Hello John, I kno, we are out of date. I hope soon we will send diplomas. I'm so soooorrry! 73, Armi You should have gotten an email if you passed the first stage of verification, but I couldn't find mine until I searched my email (subject was "Apollo-Soyuz PASS1verif KG4AKV FM05rv"). You can also see if you are on the list of people who has passed the first stage of verification by searching for your name on the following page (CTRL + F) http://www.arisspolska.info/?page_id=4015 I made it! 73, John KG4AKV From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Mon Aug 31 20:29:02 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 20:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Soyuz launch + $50SAT Falls Silent Message-ID: <287607748.4377575.1441052942599.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Radio hams launch on Soyuz to ISS Wednesday, September 2 http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/31/radio-hams-launch-to-iss-wednesday/ $50SAT Falls Silent http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/30/50sat-falls-silent/ LAPAN-A2 with FM transponder and Digipeater Launches September 28 http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/30/lapan-a2-launch/ Frequencies for nine of the satellites launching on a CZ-6 Sept 5-7 http://amsat-uk.org/satellites/communications/camsat-xw-2/ 7599 km DX contact on FO-29 http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/28/7599-km-dx-contact-on-fo-29/ CPUT planning successor to Africa?s first nanosatellite http://amsat-uk.org/2015/08/25/cput-planning-successor-to-africas-first-nanosatellite/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ----