From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 03:06:14 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 23:06:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYuXH9=p62Xk=YMYmjHdN1P40dHTqj8YWsB+0FC45DOYzg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all, Just wanted to know, is Yuri still on his expedition? Or is he
done now?

From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun  1 03:37:49 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 23:37:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYuXH9=p62Xk=YMYmjHdN1P40dHTqj8YWsB+0FC45DOYzg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYuXH9=p62Xk=YMYmjHdN1P40dHTqj8YWsB+0FC45DOYzg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpfOJ6hp_fos1oKdAO-PYE5U_dcOcZ8YksDjK4ufDvBiA@mail.gmail.com>

Nick,

He's in port in Havana, Cuba right now according to the app FindShip.
(MarineTraffic doesn't have up to date info:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/details/ships/shipid:123641/mmsi:209996000/imo:9230921/vessel:GREENWING)

I have no idea how long he'll be there. It's possible he heads home
from Cuba and another captain takes over there. It's also possible
that he takes the ship to it's next destination.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all, Just wanted to know, is Yuri still on his expedition? Or is he
> done now?
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From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Mon Jun  1 10:08:24 2015
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 12:08:24 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail identified
Message-ID: <556C2F18.6090005@xs4all.nl>

All,

Using detailed doppler shift measurements, I find that LightSail is
object 90726, ULTRASat 7, without any doubt.

This means that LightSail is actually object 40658, 2015-025H in
the JSpOC catalog.

The preliminary initial assignments in the JSpOC catalog for the objects
in this launch will need to be corrected:
PSAT      =  90720  =  ULTRASat 1   =  40652  =  2015-025B
LightSail =  90726  =  ULTRASat 7   =  40658  =  2015-025H
BRICSat   =  90729  =  ULTRASat 10  =  40661  =  2015-025L

73,
Nico PA0DLO



From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jun  1 13:18:45 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:18:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeater is ON
Message-ID: <b4c0dd79ff29681419defcf6454a8374@mail.gmail.com>

I just turned on the PSAT digipeater.  You will notice that its callsign in
this mode is just ?PSAT? and not PSAT-1 when it is in SAFE mode.

The ALIASes supported are ARISS and APRSAT.



The PSK-31 transponder also remains in AUTO mode meaning it will come up
whenever there are PSK31 signals on the 28.120 + frequency.



Bob, WB4APR

From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu  Mon Jun  1 14:15:01 2015
From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:15:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpfOJ6hp_fos1oKdAO-PYE5U_dcOcZ8YksDjK4ufDvBiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYuXH9=p62Xk=YMYmjHdN1P40dHTqj8YWsB+0FC45DOYzg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOpfOJ6hp_fos1oKdAO-PYE5U_dcOcZ8YksDjK4ufDvBiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556C68E5.8090709@frcuba.co.cu>

Hi from Cuba...

As per Cuba's laws he can't TX from our national territory unless he can 
officially prove (slow embassy paperwork) that Cuban's hams can TX on 
his country...

So we will not hear from him until he is on international waters...

73

El 31/05/15 a las 23:37, Paul Stoetzer escibi?:
> Nick,
>
> He's in port in Havana, Cuba right now according to the app FindShip.
> (MarineTraffic doesn't have up to date info:
> http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/details/ships/shipid:123641/mmsi:209996000/imo:9230921/vessel:GREENWING)
>
> I have no idea how long he'll be there. It's possible he heads home
> from Cuba and another captain takes over there. It's also possible
> that he takes the ship to it's next destination.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey all, Just wanted to know, is Yuri still on his expedition? Or is he
>> done now?
>> _______________________________________________
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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Mon Jun  1 16:02:14 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 09:02:14 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT key to success
In-Reply-To: <8e24d16174c55a16dbde0b36d82a25ee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e24d16174c55a16dbde0b36d82a25ee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556C8206.8020105@verizon.net>

The HAM software programs that offer the PSK modes offer a combination 
of feature.

Here is a matrix of the features that may be of value working the PSAT 
satellite.


AMATEUR PSK PROGRAMS FEATURES

DX/SX            =A=     FULL DUPLEX
Y,N,NA            =B=    2 INSTANCES
1,2,SB            =C=    REC CHANNELS OR SB/MULTI
50,3K              =D=    AFC Hz
31, 1K            =E=    BPSK TOP RATE
Y,N                  =F=    Tx MONITOR W/F
N,1,2,3,8        =G=    MULTI S/B HIGHLIGHT ALERT LIMIT


         A=B=C=D=E=F=G

WinPSK            DX=NA=1=3K=63=N=N
WinPSK(SE)    DX=NA=2=3K=31=N=N
FlDigi                SX=Y=SB=50=1K=Y=1
DigiPAN            SX=Y=SB=50=63=N=3
MixW                SX=Y=2=50=125=N=?
DM780            SX=N=SB=?50=125=N=8



From FraserBonnett at verizon.net  Mon Jun  1 16:14:03 2015
From: FraserBonnett at verizon.net (Fraser Bonnett)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 12:14:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Success
Message-ID: <000201d09c85$fa4d2e90$eee78bb0$@verizon.net>

1600 UTC pass this morning over FN10, I managed to copy my callsign on the
downlink

 

iaetoCQ CQ de W3UT  S aPe dh-

n   Q de W3UTD W3UTD?mct

 

a  tn?oedhCQ CQ de W3UTD ra e l o o

n F    iDdQ de W3UTD W3UTD

CQ CQ de W3e tno 

   t   atet d3UTD

CQ CQ de W3UTD W3UTD

CQ CQ de W3e  c oe 

 

A bit rough, but it was there.  I did also see : cq psat de kc9doa

 

I ran 20 watts into a ground mounted vertical, switched over to a dipole and
heard nothing, which was what I expected.

 

Icom-9100 in Satellite mode, and two instances of DM780.  Another pass in 90
minutes, I?ll try again.

 

73, Fraser, W3UTD



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From Rogerkola at aol.com  Mon Jun  1 16:16:49 2015
From: Rogerkola at aol.com (Roger Kolakowski)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 12:16:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeater is ON
In-Reply-To: <b4c0dd79ff29681419defcf6454a8374@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b4c0dd79ff29681419defcf6454a8374@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556C8571.1030902@aol.com>

Very lonely on the 1705 UTC Eastern US pass but it hears well, responds 
to ARISS and I got several asterisks confirmation.

10 watts to a base station vertical. KPC-3.

Roger WA1KAT


On 06/01/2015 9:18 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> I just turned on the PSAT digipeater.  You will notice that its callsign in
> this mode is just ?PSAT? and not PSAT-1 when it is in SAFE mode.
>
> The ALIASes supported are ARISS and APRSAT.
>
>
>
> The PSK-31 transponder also remains in AUTO mode meaning it will come up
> whenever there are PSK31 signals on the 28.120 + frequency.
>
>
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
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From Rogerkola at aol.com  Mon Jun  1 16:23:14 2015
From: Rogerkola at aol.com (Roger Kolakowski)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 12:23:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeater is ON
In-Reply-To: <556C8571.1030902@aol.com>
References: <b4c0dd79ff29681419defcf6454a8374@mail.gmail.com>
	<556C8571.1030902@aol.com>
Message-ID: <556C86F2.4050402@aol.com>

Sorry...1605 UTC ... I forgot DST

Roger
WA1KAT


On 06/01/2015 12:16 PM, Roger Kolakowski via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Very lonely on the 1705 UTC Eastern US pass but it hears well, 
> responds to ARISS and I got several asterisks confirmation.
>
> 10 watts to a base station vertical. KPC-3.
>
> Roger WA1KAT
>
>
> On 06/01/2015 9:18 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>> I just turned on the PSAT digipeater.  You will notice that its 
>> callsign in
>> this mode is just ?PSAT? and not PSAT-1 when it is in SAFE mode.
>>
>> The ALIASes supported are ARISS and APRSAT.
>>


From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun  1 17:54:36 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 13:54:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeater is ON
In-Reply-To: <556C86F2.4050402@aol.com>
References: <b4c0dd79ff29681419defcf6454a8374@mail.gmail.com>
	<556C8571.1030902@aol.com> <556C86F2.4050402@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpAmo8NvJe3n-nqzWOYzV6xdi09jHQsLFyVYXLXFgqTmQ@mail.gmail.com>

Heard the PSAT APRS beacon, KB2M, N3FCX, K0KOC, and an acknowledgement
of my own position on the 1737Z pass from hear in Washington, DC with
my Kenwood TH-D7A(G) and an Arrow antenna. Didn't get any decodes
below 25 degrees or so with just the HT. I guess that's to be expected
with the lower transmit power.

It doesn't look like any iGates picked the activity up on this pass.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Roger Kolakowski via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> Sorry...1605 UTC ... I forgot DST
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
>
> On 06/01/2015 12:16 PM, Roger Kolakowski via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>
>> Very lonely on the 1705 UTC Eastern US pass but it hears well, responds to
>> ARISS and I got several asterisks confirmation.
>>
>> 10 watts to a base station vertical. KPC-3.
>>
>> Roger WA1KAT
>>
>>
>> On 06/01/2015 9:18 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>>>
>>> I just turned on the PSAT digipeater.  You will notice that its callsign
>>> in
>>> this mode is just ?PSAT? and not PSAT-1 when it is in SAFE mode.
>>>
>>> The ALIASes supported are ARISS and APRSAT.
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jkboxk at wildblue.net  Mon Jun  1 19:28:04 2015
From: jkboxk at wildblue.net (jerry keeton)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:28:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT
Message-ID: <68C7F0F978FC4B3CBD0E8E90C122CBE4@jerryPC>

PSAT packet


19:20 N4ZQ/PSAT/ARISS*>APWW10>UI,C,F0 (1201 baud):
@192028h2803.57N/08246.28WlAPRS-IS Software 
19:23 N4ZQ/PSAT/ARISS*>APWW10>UI,C,F0 (1201 baud):
@192310h2803.57N/08246.28WlAPRS-IS Software 
19:23 PSAT/ARISS>APRSON>UI,?,F0 (1201 baud):
T#110,807,596,127,127,409,00000000
19:23 N4ZQ/PSAT/ARISS*>APWW10>UI,C,F0 (1201 baud):
@192328h2803.57N/08246.28WlAPRS-IS Software 

WB5LHD

From dwarnberg at verizon.net  Mon Jun  1 19:47:11 2015
From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 15:47:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT-1
In-Reply-To: <D5F5AE1F55474CE2B4520888DC458DBB@PeterPC>
References: <003601d09703$659d2d40$30d787c0$@net>
	<D5F5AE1F55474CE2B4520888DC458DBB@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <010f01d09ca3$c075c3d0$41614b70$@net>

No, I've been listening and I've heard nothing..

 

David,  KK4QOE

 

From: peter [mailto:wb2oqq at verizon.net] 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:04 PM
To: David L Warnberg; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT-1

 

David,

 

I had a 70 degree pass at 11:16 EST, nothing heard, are you or anyone
receiving and data?

 

73 Peter

W2JV

 

 


From my.callsign at verizon.net  Mon Jun  1 21:04:37 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:04:37 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT  PSK31  20:55u
Message-ID: <556CC8E5.4000700@verizon.net>

Copied KM5FF but no contact.

KO6TZ   Bob

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Mon Jun  1 21:27:02 2015
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 22:27:02 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Operating Mode change
Message-ID: <0DB8E657EE534522AA54588B8C678695@allgood.local>

Hi,

Just to confirm that at approx 21.22UTC this evening FC1 was returned to autonomous operation. The spacecraft will be in telemetry only mode when in sunlight and amateur mode when in eclipse.
73
Graham
G3VZV

From kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  1 22:34:36 2015
From: kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?Q29yIFBE2FJLQw==?=)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 00:34:36 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS packet active.
Message-ID: <DUB124-W16C4542C48A233A24BB8A4C2B60@phx.gbl>


Hello radio friends,

Recently ISS packet system (in the Columbus module) was switched off because of some maintenance near the system.
Packet is now active again!

73s Cor PD0RKC
 		 	   		  

From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jun  1 22:46:53 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:46:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS packet double hop?
Message-ID: <6f5696c415a32a3cadd27d7fbdc25088@mail.gmail.com>

When PSAT is near ISS, watch for double hop packets!  PSAT sends its
telemetry packets via ARISS.

Best chance of this happening is when ISS is way out far over the ocean
and has little QRM on its 145.825 uplink.  AND then PSAT, with its 0.3W
transmitter will have to be close to ISS too.  If you see one, let us
know.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Cor PD?RKC

... ISS packet system ... was... off.  Packet is now active again!

From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jun  2 01:00:49 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 21:00:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and BRICsat oscar numbers?
Message-ID: <acd84ed7c1163044bbe89332cec4133d@mail.gmail.com>

To Whom it may concern:



We request OSCAR numbers for PSAT and BRICsat.



PSAT is fully operational as APRS digipeaer and as PSK31 transponder

BRICsat has been heard with Telemetry and its PSK31 transponder has also
been heard though weakly.



Request NO## and NO## with PSAT getting the first number.



If precise ## are negotiable, contact me direct.



Bob Bruninga, WB4APR

Lastname at usna.edu

From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Tue Jun  2 03:04:56 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 00:04:56 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeater is ON
Message-ID: <421E83BDE11F4A9B80D9B316F515B32E@PC1>


2015-06-01 22:19:24 UTC
 LW8EXS>CQ,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,LU1WFU-2:=3439.49S/05924.35W-

73s de LW8EXS

From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Tue Jun  2 03:12:07 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 00:12:07 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeater is ON
Message-ID: <93AACE18232947BC94F6BF2A13DE4D41@PC1>

2015-06-02 
02:19:24 UTC
 LW8EXS>CQ,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,LU1WFU-2:=3439.49S/05924.35W-

73s de LW8EXS

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Tue Jun  2 04:22:42 2015
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 23:22:42 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and HDSDR
Message-ID: <003401d09ceb$c4f6ca60$4ee45f20$@net>

For those interested, the PSAT signal works very well with HDSDR on a
FunCube Dongle Pro+.  You can control the "Tune" frequency from SatPCC32 or
in the case of an FM carrier like PSAT, let the quite decent FM AFC on HDSDR
track the frequency of the downlink.

I purchased a "Virtual Audio Cable" driver from Eugene Muzychenko Software.
http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm It is fully functional in trial
mode but the watermark will drive you nuts. The nice thing is that you can
direct the output for the FCDPP to whatever software you are using and also
to redirect it to a secondary soundcard for you to hear.

Next weekend I will try WinPSK to see if it works in satellite mode full
duplex.  This will negate the need to run two instances of digipan to hear
myself while transmitting.

73 Tom, N5HYP





From g0mrf at aol.com  Tue Jun  2 09:15:56 2015
From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 05:15:56 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and BRICsat oscar numbers?
In-Reply-To: <acd84ed7c1163044bbe89332cec4133d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <acd84ed7c1163044bbe89332cec4133d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14db38e4935-56f6-e63f@webprd-a49.mail.aol.com>


Hi Bob
 
You need to apply to bod at amsat.org
 
with all the information described at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2478
 
Thanks
 
David  G0MRF
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 6:29
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and BRICsat oscar numbers?


To Whom it may concern:



We request OSCAR numbers for PSAT and
BRICsat.



PSAT is fully operational as APRS digipeaer and as PSK31
transponder

BRICsat has been heard with Telemetry and its PSK31 transponder
has also
been heard though weakly.



Request NO## and NO## with PSAT
getting the first number.



If precise ## are negotiable, contact me
direct.



Bob Bruninga, WB4APR

Lastname at
usna.edu
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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Tue Jun  2 14:15:54 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 07:15:54 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT  Packet
Message-ID: <556DBA9A.1020809@verizon.net>

14:00u 12degree pass of PSAT this AM.

Very weak signal as expected, also the satellite doesn't hear well. I 
heard several weak packets that did not display.  None were a digi of my 
packets.  I was able to copy one telemetry packet.

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[06:58:42]
T#209,873,086,131,131,412,00000000

The ISS and PSAT were both in range during part of this pass.  No double 
hop...


KO6TZ    Bob


From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jun  2 14:50:32 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:50:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT TLE update
Message-ID: <63e04aaa15c33f413f357b7eb0fb6985@mail.gmail.com>

We are getting very good correlation with this set of elements for PSAT:

PSAT
1 90720U          15145.93902831 +.00017674 +00000-0 +46263-3 0 0012
2 90720 054.9963 317.0779 0250256 195.3371 328.0209 15.1285259500080

They are about 2 minutes behind the original ULTRASAT3 elements we have
been using since launch and match perfectly with our AOS, CPA and LOS.

Bob, WB4APR

From Rogerkola at aol.com  Tue Jun  2 15:39:24 2015
From: Rogerkola at aol.com (Roger Kolakowski)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:39:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT TLE update
In-Reply-To: <63e04aaa15c33f413f357b7eb0fb6985@mail.gmail.com>
References: <63e04aaa15c33f413f357b7eb0fb6985@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556DCE2C.8070204@aol.com>

Just a note...

I had to add a 0 (zero) at the end of each line for Orbitron to accept 
these...

On New England east coast pass in 10 minutes.

Roger
WA1KAT

On 06/02/2015 10:50 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> We are getting very good correlation with this set of elements for PSAT:
>
> PSAT
> 1 90720U          15145.93902831 +.00017674 +00000-0 +46263-3 0 0012
> 2 90720 054.9963 317.0779 0250256 195.3371 328.0209 15.1285259500080
>
> They are about 2 minutes behind the original ULTRASAT3 elements we have
> been using since launch and match perfectly with our AOS, CPA and LOS.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 15:45:39 2015
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:45:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT TLE update
In-Reply-To: <556DCE2C.8070204@aol.com>
References: <63e04aaa15c33f413f357b7eb0fb6985@mail.gmail.com>
	<556DCE2C.8070204@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPHnS3mV=Bvae_i-RKri02vUD_7TZ9rNxvtYoM2wM-pnA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you. I had the same issue with Orbitron and didn't know how to fix it.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Roger Kolakowski via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> Just a note...
>
> I had to add a 0 (zero) at the end of each line for Orbitron to accept
> these...
>
> On New England east coast pass in 10 minutes.
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
>
> On 06/02/2015 10:50 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>>
>> We are getting very good correlation with this set of elements for PSAT:
>>
>> PSAT
>> 1 90720U          15145.93902831 +.00017674 +00000-0 +46263-3 0 0012
>> 2 90720 054.9963 317.0779 0250256 195.3371 328.0209 15.1285259500080
>>
>> They are about 2 minutes behind the original ULTRASAT3 elements we have
>> been using since launch and match perfectly with our AOS, CPA and LOS.
>>
>> Bob, WB4APR
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Jun  2 17:37:02 2015
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:37:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT?
Message-ID: <CAJkFkuy-X7pDr28HcPe6nMRqvfZLM6yVUfJ7zoNcqkuvr7Ro4w@mail.gmail.com>

I had been receiving and decoding PSAT telemetry on the 2 m downlink pretty
consistently up until the digipeater was turned on.
Now, I hear the packets on the radio, but they are not strong enough to be
decoded. Has the power been reduced on the 2 m downlink?

Steve AI9IN

From dave at w0dhb.net  Tue Jun  2 17:50:18 2015
From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:50:18 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT?
In-Reply-To: <CAJkFkuy-X7pDr28HcPe6nMRqvfZLM6yVUfJ7zoNcqkuvr7Ro4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkFkuy-X7pDr28HcPe6nMRqvfZLM6yVUfJ7zoNcqkuvr7Ro4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a601d09d5c$96f86e40$c4e94ac0$@w0dhb.net>

Ditto here also

Dave W0DHB

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Kristoff
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:37 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT?

I had been receiving and decoding PSAT telemetry on the 2 m downlink pretty
consistently up until the digipeater was turned on.
Now, I hear the packets on the radio, but they are not strong enough to be
decoded. Has the power been reduced on the 2 m downlink?

Steve AI9IN
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun  2 17:53:29 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:53:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT?
In-Reply-To: <CAJkFkuy-X7pDr28HcPe6nMRqvfZLM6yVUfJ7zoNcqkuvr7Ro4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkFkuy-X7pDr28HcPe6nMRqvfZLM6yVUfJ7zoNcqkuvr7Ro4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoPzRqSyyYjZP9Tb1o-8G_b-p+nBQGCUsg-BstN931+eQ@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting observation.

I also note that the satgates have consistently received telemetry
beacons, but very few digipeated packets:
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
> I had been receiving and decoding PSAT telemetry on the 2 m downlink pretty
> consistently up until the digipeater was turned on.
> Now, I hear the packets on the radio, but they are not strong enough to be
> decoded. Has the power been reduced on the 2 m downlink?
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From Rogerkola at aol.com  Tue Jun  2 18:06:22 2015
From: Rogerkola at aol.com (Roger Kolakowski)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:06:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoPzRqSyyYjZP9Tb1o-8G_b-p+nBQGCUsg-BstN931+eQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkFkuy-X7pDr28HcPe6nMRqvfZLM6yVUfJ7zoNcqkuvr7Ro4w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOoPzRqSyyYjZP9Tb1o-8G_b-p+nBQGCUsg-BstN931+eQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556DF09E.6070005@aol.com>

I can confirm at least 2 acks back on my packets on each of the 
descending local passes the last two days.

My hearing range is about half of the indicated ground coverage circle 
in Orbitron.

My location favors the ascending passes my my sleep needs do not.

Roger
WA1KAT

On 06/02/2015 1:53 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Interesting observation.
>
> I also note that the satgates have consistently received telemetry
> beacons, but very few digipeated packets:
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM

From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jun  2 19:49:23 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:49:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT power out?
Message-ID: <93388bc6ef2eb075b52eebe20b9e510a@mail.gmail.com>

Me to.  I thought it was me.  I am hardly decoding anything on the 145.825
downlink any more...  Bob, Wb4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [ David W0DHB
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT?

Ditto here also
Dave W0DHB

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [Steve Kristoff
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:37 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT?

I had been receiving and decoding PSAT telemetry on the 2 m downlink
pretty consistently up until the digipeater was turned on.
Now, I hear the packets on the radio, but they are not strong enough to be
decoded. Has the power been reduced on the 2 m downlink?

Steve AI9IN

From my.callsign at verizon.net  Tue Jun  2 21:00:27 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:00:27 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 20:40u Pacific pass
Message-ID: <556E196B.6040701@verizon.net>

I copied 5 packets, on the 20:40u pass over the Pacific.  I could not 
get it to digipeat a packet.


BOB   KO6TZ



1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[13:40:15]
s#012729,0z200,G0cGAcFAcFBcFCcFCcGDcGDcGDbGCbGCbGBa

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:40:42]
T#605,857,074,130,129,412,00000000

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:41:43]
T#606,859,073,130,129,412,00000000

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[13:43:20]
s#012731,0z200,GcdGadGAdGAdGBdGCeFCdGDdFDdGCdGCcGCb

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:43:45]
T#608,838,376,128,128,411,00000000

From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Tue Jun  2 21:40:04 2015
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 18:40:04 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT in PSK31
Message-ID: <002f01d09d7c$b2aa5fc0$17ff1f40$@falautomation.com.br>

Hi 

Today I did a test using the automatic correction of SATPC32 at high speed
and the result was that my  transmission stay almost at the same frequency,
as shown in this video.

 

https://youtu.be/lz535MBCWMs

 

SatPC32 is the best !

73

 

 

PY5LF

Luciano Fabricio

Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm

http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF

 


From wb5eku at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 21:57:53 2015
From: wb5eku at gmail.com (Donald Jacob)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:57:53 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
Message-ID: <CABCjCMBuahpjgn8ACvseGLCP+CbW3rbRsoxGDzh05mp6CDUR=A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I need to reload SatPC and can't find my registration code! Where might I
find it?
I am pretty sure that I originally purchased it through AMSAT-NA

Thanks

Don
WB5EKU

From wa4sca at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 22:01:01 2015
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:01:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <CABCjCMBuahpjgn8ACvseGLCP+CbW3rbRsoxGDzh05mp6CDUR=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABCjCMBuahpjgn8ACvseGLCP+CbW3rbRsoxGDzh05mp6CDUR=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501d09d7f$9db7f2f0$d927d8d0$@GMAIL.COM>

Contact Martha tomorrow.  Information on WWW.AMSAT.ORG.  She keeps a record of all registrations.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Donald Jacob
<Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 4:58 PM
<To: AMSAT BB
<Subject: [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
<
<Hi,
<I need to reload SatPC and can't find my registration code! Where might I
<find it?
<I am pretty sure that I originally purchased it through AMSAT-NA
<
<Thanks
<
<Don
<WB5EKU
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
<Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
<Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From wb5eku at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 22:03:25 2015
From: wb5eku at gmail.com (Donald Jacob)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:03:25 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <000501d09d7f$9db7f2f0$d927d8d0$@GMAIL.COM>
References: <CABCjCMBuahpjgn8ACvseGLCP+CbW3rbRsoxGDzh05mp6CDUR=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<000501d09d7f$9db7f2f0$d927d8d0$@GMAIL.COM>
Message-ID: <CABCjCMAWjew7Rr8eP4V6kvOx_9cGJo8bCLGChvcqW2P0N8Fazw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, will do.

Guess I should have thought of that first! Martha knows everything.

WB5EKU


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:

> Contact Martha tomorrow.  Information on WWW.AMSAT.ORG.  She keeps a
> record of all registrations.
>
> 73s,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Donald
> Jacob
> <Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 4:58 PM
> <To: AMSAT BB
> <Subject: [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
> <
> <Hi,
> <I need to reload SatPC and can't find my registration code! Where might I
> <find it?
> <I am pretty sure that I originally purchased it through AMSAT-NA
> <
> <Thanks
> <
> <Don
> <WB5EKU
> <_______________________________________________
> <Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>

From firefighterryan37 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 22:12:51 2015
From: firefighterryan37 at gmail.com (ryan woods)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 18:12:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <CABCjCMAWjew7Rr8eP4V6kvOx_9cGJo8bCLGChvcqW2P0N8Fazw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABCjCMBuahpjgn8ACvseGLCP+CbW3rbRsoxGDzh05mp6CDUR=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<000501d09d7f$9db7f2f0$d927d8d0$@GMAIL.COM>
	<CABCjCMAWjew7Rr8eP4V6kvOx_9cGJo8bCLGChvcqW2P0N8Fazw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAUg=NSjFg=Y_YPu2+oAy+ev0z9YNhVL+fZ22ZaLsbaRCskTyg@mail.gmail.com>

I have always contacted the author when I lost my registration number. He
is very helpful!
On Jun 2, 2015 6:03 PM, "Donald Jacob" <wb5eku at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, will do.
>
> Guess I should have thought of that first! Martha knows everything.
>
> WB5EKU
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Contact Martha tomorrow.  Information on WWW.AMSAT.ORG.  She keeps a
> > record of all registrations.
> >
> > 73s,
> >
> > Alan
> > WA4SCA
> >
> >
> > <-----Original Message-----
> > <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Donald
> > Jacob
> > <Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 4:58 PM
> > <To: AMSAT BB
> > <Subject: [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
> > <
> > <Hi,
> > <I need to reload SatPC and can't find my registration code! Where might
> I
> > <find it?
> > <I am pretty sure that I originally purchased it through AMSAT-NA
> > <
> > <Thanks
> > <
> > <Don
> > <WB5EKU
> > <_______________________________________________
> > <Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed
> > <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From wb5eku at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 23:40:14 2015
From: wb5eku at gmail.com (Donald Jacob)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:40:14 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <1656641096.189545.1433287703616.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CABCjCMBuahpjgn8ACvseGLCP+CbW3rbRsoxGDzh05mp6CDUR=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1656641096.189545.1433287703616.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABCjCMCpT6LuSix4s1=n_zJOD7cg+ecHEoFOfr1jELSnpinL8g@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all, I found it, luckly It did not go away when the system crashed.

WB5EKU


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Adrian Engele <aa5uk at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Try: *C:\Users\YOUR NAME\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32* Look for*
> UserDaten.Txt  *
>
> Your registration will be there.
>
> 73, Adrian AA5UK
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Donald Jacob <wb5eku at gmail.com>
> *To:* AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2015 4:57 PM
> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Registration for SatPC32
>
> Hi,
> I need to reload SatPC and can't find my registration code! Where might I
> find it?
> I am pretty sure that I originally purchased it through AMSAT-NA
>
> Thanks
>
> Don
> WB5EKU
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Wed Jun  3 04:14:20 2015
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 04:14:20 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ Show Low AZ hamfest & weekend grid expedition
	(6-7 June 2015)
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUeLN03ccTiURirY2eXnpQgfqqChq-G+Md1YiBpvxYP-6A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I will be on the road this weekend, starting this Friday evening (5 June)
with a 3-hour drive to eastern Arizona before a Saturday (6 June) morning
hamfest. After the hamfest, I will be driving and operating from grids in
northern Arizona and southern Utah before I return home Sunday night. I'm
not able to extend my weekend, so this will be a rapid-fire road trip
covering over a thousand miles and several grids.

My activities will start with the White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low, in
eastern Arizona. This hamfest is a half-day event, and I will have an AMSAT
table at it, complete with satellite demonstrations during the morning. If
you hear WD9EWK on the air Saturday morning, please call and be a part of
the demonstrations. I hope to be on some AO-7, SO-50, and AO-73 passes
before the hamfest wraps up around midday (1900 UTC).

After the hamfest, I will head north up to I-40. If the timing is right, I
may be able to make a stop at the DM54/DM55 grid boundary for the AO-7 and
FO-29 passes between 2030 and 2100 UTC Saturday afternoon. If the timing
isn't right, I will at least try for grid DM54 near the hamfest to get that
on the air once, before heading west to Flagstaff.

Once I'm done with DM54 or DM54/DM55, it will be a 4-hour drive to Page AZ,
at Lake Powell and the Arizona/Utah state line, passing through Flagstaff
as I leave I-40 and start on US-89. I may be able to work from grid DM45 on
the way to Page - including some ISS passes. Between Flagstaff and Page, I
don't plan on making many stops, as US-89 passes through the Navajo Nation
reservation. If all goes well, I will wrap up Saturday in Page, in time to
work the AO-73 pass around 0353 UTC. Since the Arizona/Utah state line -
and the DM46/DM47 grid boundary - are very close to Page, I *may* be able
to work from that grid boundary. At this part of the Arizona/Utah state
line, the grid boundary is just inside northern Arizona.

Sunday (7 June) morning... my plans are to leave Page early, and make it to
a spot in southern Utah north of Monument Valley (grids DM47 and DM57) in
time for the SO-50 and AO-73 passes in the morning. I am not planning to
make stops along the road between Page and the DM47/DM57 grid boundary, as I
will need around 2 hours to get to that spot in time for the first SO-50
pass around 1510 UTC. The first AO-73 pass at DM47/DM57, around 1545 UTC,
has a maximum elevation of 4 degrees. I should be able to work a few minutes
of that very shallow pass out there, if my memory of that area from being
out there in 2009 is correct.

Depending on how well the morning passes go, and how the weather is on
Sunday, I may try to stick around for the first FO-29 pass up there at 2135
UTC. If I work lots of stations on the morning passes, I will move to one
of two other locations for the 2135 UTC FO-29 pass: DM56/DM57 grid boundary
just inside southern Utah, or the Four Corners Monument (only in grid DM56,
about 100 yards/meters south of the DM56/DM57 grid boundary) to work from 4
states during that pass. If the weather goes bad, I may start my drive home
early, but still try to work passes as I return to Phoenix. Wherever I end
up for the 2135 UTC pass, that will probably be the last pass I work up
there before I (quickly) drive home. From that area, I will have a 5- to 6-
hour drive to get home.

If I can work the 2135 UTC FO-29 pass from the Four Corners Monument, I will
probably use only one of my FT-817s and work the pass half-duplex. This
would make it easier for me to walk around the marker where the four states
come together. Otherwise, I'll work FO-29 with my normal SSB satellite
setup wherever I happen to be at that time.

Logistics... I will use APRS as I drive, squawking as WD9EWK-9 as I normally
do on these trips (visible at http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9 among other online
places). This should do OK for much of my trip, but coverage could be spotty
in northeastern Arizona and southeastern Utah east of Page and Lake Powell.
There is a digipeater on a 10000-foot mountain near Page, but I'm not sure
how well it will cover across the high deserts up there. I will also use my
@WD9EWK Twitter feed to post updates during the weekend. If you do not use
Twitter, it is visible online at http://twitter.com/WD9EWK without signing
up for Twitter. Depending on how the mobile-phone networks across the Navajo
Nation reservation have improved since I was last up there in 2009, I may be
limited to using SMS messages to post updates to Twitter.

For all of my operating over the weekend, I will upload my QSOs to Logbook
of the World after the weekend. I will also prepare QSL cards for each of
the locations I work from. Just drop me an e-mail with the QSO details, and
I'll send you a card (or cards). No need to send me cards or an SASE for this
trip.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us  Wed Jun  3 10:55:52 2015
From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 06:55:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT: Breaking its "squelch"
Message-ID: <556EDD38.20104@denstarfarm.us>

I noticed on a few passes that during the time I can see/decode/hear the
ADO Beacon, that if I transmit on 28.120, I can then see what looks to
be my downlinked PSK31 signal.

There IS Doppler drift on it, fwiw. If I keep repeating the CQ PSAT,
then I still hear the telemetry from PSAT (usually ADO) and I see one or
two other stations.

But if that downlink stops, then no mater who long i transmit, that PSAT
"squelch" is not broken; I never hear or see the ADO beacon.

Somehow something else breaks that squelch then my CQ-ing appears on the
now-open WF.

I am using MIXW 3.1.1, a SignaLink on K3(28.120) and a Signalink on the
IC910H.

Are my settings bad?

73,
-- 
Bob KD7YZ
http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AMSAT LM#901

From sford at arrl.org  Wed Jun  3 14:41:05 2015
From: sford at arrl.org (Ford, Steve,  WB8IMY)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:41:05 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Call for Papers: Digital Communications Conference
In-Reply-To: <6BDF4F7F3613DC4E90A42F93921B47BD174D2363@EXCHANGE.ARRLHQ.ORG>
References: <6BDF4F7F3613DC4E90A42F93921B47BD1749DA58@EXCHANGE.ARRLHQ.ORG>
	<6BDF4F7F3613DC4E90A42F93921B47BD174D2363@EXCHANGE.ARRLHQ.ORG>
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Call For Papers: 2015 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference

We're soliciting technical papers for presentation at the 34th Annual ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference, to be held October 9-11 in Chicago, Illinois. Papers will also be published in the Conference Proceedings. You do not have to attend the conference to have your paper included in the Proceedings. The submission deadline is August 17, 2015.

E-mail your submission to Maty Weinberg at ARRL Headquarters at maty at arrl.org<mailto:maty at arrl.org>. Please to do not send zip files as these will be rejected by our e-mail server.


From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Wed Jun  3 15:25:10 2015
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:25:10 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ Show Low AZ hamfest & weekend grid
 expedition (6-7 June 2015)
In-Reply-To: <011901d09dbb$a45a9770$ed0fc650$@w0dhb.net>
References: <CAN6TEUeLN03ccTiURirY2eXnpQgfqqChq-G+Md1YiBpvxYP-6A@mail.gmail.com>
	<011901d09dbb$a45a9770$ed0fc650$@w0dhb.net>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfAharsKNM_-UE4pM-2v2q=uxRisQuj7g8mG2=Di6J9+g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dave!


I'm not going to do much with PSAT this weekend. If there are PSAT
passes when I have a break, I might give the 2m digipeater a shot.
Otherwise, I'll try PSAT after the weekend. ISS passes, on the other
hand, will be attempted if I'm not driving. Please use APRS messages,
or insert a ">" before typing a line of text, so that I see more than just
your call on my screen. If I only see a call on my screen, even if you
were typing at me, I won't log that as a QSO.

I was not planning to do much from DM46, but Saturday evening
via AO-73 is probably the best chance for that. Maybe Sunday morning,
if I get up very early, where I can work an early FO-29 or AO-7 pass
before I set out for DM47/57. I won't have the benefit of freeways in
my travels up there, so I will need to watch my speeds on the highways
across that part of Arizona (and southern Utah). I'm hoping the APRS
digipeater on Navajo Mountain has some coverage where I'm going,
being several thousand feet higher than the surrounding area. When I
was last out this way in 2009, I didn't have anything for APRS with me.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK



On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:10 PM, David W0DHB <dave at w0dhb.net> wrote:
> Hey Patrick
>
> I'll be listening for ya . I need DM46,47,57.
> Might try ISS..  Would like to try PSAT, but it looks like that isn't
> working well.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick
> STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:14 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ Show Low AZ hamfest & weekend grid expedition
> (6-7 June 2015)
>
> Hi!
>
> I will be on the road this weekend, starting this Friday evening (5 June)
> with a 3-hour drive to eastern Arizona before a Saturday (6 June) morning
> hamfest. After the hamfest, I will be driving and operating from grids in
> northern Arizona and southern Utah before I return home Sunday night. I'm
> not able to extend my weekend, so this will be a rapid-fire road trip
> covering over a thousand miles and several grids.
>
> My activities will start with the White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low, in
> eastern Arizona. This hamfest is a half-day event, and I will have an AMSAT
> table at it, complete with satellite demonstrations during the morning. If
> you hear WD9EWK on the air Saturday morning, please call and be a part of
> the demonstrations. I hope to be on some AO-7, SO-50, and AO-73 passes
> before the hamfest wraps up around midday (1900 UTC).
>
> After the hamfest, I will head north up to I-40. If the timing is right, I
> may be able to make a stop at the DM54/DM55 grid boundary for the AO-7 and
> FO-29 passes between 2030 and 2100 UTC Saturday afternoon. If the timing
> isn't right, I will at least try for grid DM54 near the hamfest to get that
> on the air once, before heading west to Flagstaff.
>
> Once I'm done with DM54 or DM54/DM55, it will be a 4-hour drive to Page AZ,
> at Lake Powell and the Arizona/Utah state line, passing through Flagstaff as
> I leave I-40 and start on US-89. I may be able to work from grid DM45 on the
> way to Page - including some ISS passes. Between Flagstaff and Page, I don't
> plan on making many stops, as US-89 passes through the Navajo Nation
> reservation. If all goes well, I will wrap up Saturday in Page, in time to
> work the AO-73 pass around 0353 UTC. Since the Arizona/Utah state line - and
> the DM46/DM47 grid boundary - are very close to Page, I *may* be able to
> work from that grid boundary. At this part of the Arizona/Utah state line,
> the grid boundary is just inside northern Arizona.
>
> Sunday (7 June) morning... my plans are to leave Page early, and make it to
> a spot in southern Utah north of Monument Valley (grids DM47 and DM57) in
> time for the SO-50 and AO-73 passes in the morning. I am not planning to
> make stops along the road between Page and the DM47/DM57 grid boundary, as I
> will need around 2 hours to get to that spot in time for the first SO-50
> pass around 1510 UTC. The first AO-73 pass at DM47/DM57, around 1545 UTC,
> has a maximum elevation of 4 degrees. I should be able to work a few minutes
> of that very shallow pass out there, if my memory of that area from being
> out there in 2009 is correct.
>
> Depending on how well the morning passes go, and how the weather is on
> Sunday, I may try to stick around for the first FO-29 pass up there at 2135
> UTC. If I work lots of stations on the morning passes, I will move to one of
> two other locations for the 2135 UTC FO-29 pass: DM56/DM57 grid boundary
> just inside southern Utah, or the Four Corners Monument (only in grid DM56,
> about 100 yards/meters south of the DM56/DM57 grid boundary) to work from 4
> states during that pass. If the weather goes bad, I may start my drive home
> early, but still try to work passes as I return to Phoenix. Wherever I end
> up for the 2135 UTC pass, that will probably be the last pass I work up
> there before I (quickly) drive home. From that area, I will have a 5- to 6-
> hour drive to get home.
>
> If I can work the 2135 UTC FO-29 pass from the Four Corners Monument, I will
> probably use only one of my FT-817s and work the pass half-duplex. This
> would make it easier for me to walk around the marker where the four states
> come together. Otherwise, I'll work FO-29 with my normal SSB satellite setup
> wherever I happen to be at that time.
>
> Logistics... I will use APRS as I drive, squawking as WD9EWK-9 as I normally
> do on these trips (visible at http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9 among other online
> places). This should do OK for much of my trip, but coverage could be spotty
> in northeastern Arizona and southeastern Utah east of Page and Lake Powell.
> There is a digipeater on a 10000-foot mountain near Page, but I'm not sure
> how well it will cover across the high deserts up there. I will also use my
> @WD9EWK Twitter feed to post updates during the weekend. If you do not use
> Twitter, it is visible online at http://twitter.com/WD9EWK without signing
> up for Twitter. Depending on how the mobile-phone networks across the Navajo
> Nation reservation have improved since I was last up there in 2009, I may be
> limited to using SMS messages to post updates to Twitter.
>
> For all of my operating over the weekend, I will upload my QSOs to Logbook
> of the World after the weekend. I will also prepare QSL cards for each of
> the locations I work from. Just drop me an e-mail with the QSO details, and
> I'll send you a card (or cards). No need to send me cards or an SASE for
> this trip.
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK
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From skristof at etczone.com  Wed Jun  3 17:26:01 2015
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:26:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest PSAT pass
Message-ID: <CAJkFkuwhzg9necSJsbooxyUMLBZAMLqSpPV9i-jUcn7rFedyEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Did a little better on the recent PSAT pass (1710 - 1722 UTC). I received
three telemetry packets (the spin telemetry packet made it to the list on
pcsat.aprs.org ) and a packet from K1WY. Did not receive any
acknowledgments of my transmitted packets.

Steve AI9IN
EM79ji
Oldenburg IN

From dave at w0dhb.net  Wed Jun  3 17:32:09 2015
From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 11:32:09 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1707z PSAT pass
Message-ID: <018801d09e23$384f00d0$a8ed0270$@w0dhb.net>

This last pass of PSAT (26deg peak here) I could see packets but never
strong enough to decode.

 

I know from APRS.fi that some folks are copying.

 

Also noticed that end of the pass it appeared on the waterfall it was
digipeating me, but I couldn't decode.

 

I will try again 1846z pass which is 49 deg here.

 

Dave W0DHB

 


From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Wed Jun  3 18:44:39 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 15:44:39 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] change in the activation of the ISS digipeater
Message-ID: <E56E7C1D002943459FCDB8D1302304A8@PC1>

change in the activation of the ISS digipeater
usually in South America with RS0ISS , RS0ISS -1 could activate your digi, but now is working with " ARISS "
73s and good contacts !
LW8EXS

From wa4sca at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 19:56:17 2015
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:56:17 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1707z PSAT pass
In-Reply-To: <018801d09e23$384f00d0$a8ed0270$@w0dhb.net>
References: <018801d09e23$384f00d0$a8ed0270$@w0dhb.net>
Message-ID: <000201d09e37$5af770e0$10e652a0$@GMAIL.COM>

Dave,

I was mostly calibrating the rig, but got several packets on the 1852Z pass.  It was only a maximum of
11 degrees and was very weak.  I used the UZ7HO software rather than the usual MixW.  The previous
pass, where I was working with the PSK31 downlink was exceptionally loud.

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [13:52:29R]
T#917,825,363,128,129,413,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [13:54:31R]
T#919,878,075,129,129,413,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [13:54:34R]
s#013632,0z200,GeeGedGedGecGfbFfbFf0EfBEfCDfDDfDDfD
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [13:56:09R]
s#013633,0z200,CfDDfDDfDDfDDfDEfDFfDGfDGfDGeBHe0Hea
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [13:56:33R]
T#921,815,358,128,128,412,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [13:57:34R]
T#922,820,359,128,128,412,00000000
1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [13:57:42R]
s#013634,0z200,HdaHcbIbbHacH0cHCcHDcHEcGFcGFcEFcDFc

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


From my.callsign at verizon.net  Wed Jun  3 20:47:44 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:47:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 20:30u  Orbit214
Message-ID: <556F67F0.1090602@verizon.net>

I displayed 5 telemetry packets, could not digi any packets, this was a 
nice 22deg pass.  Also I did not see anyone else digi any packets.

Is the APRS Digi turned on and working for anyone else ?  The <UI> path 
says APRSON.


KO6TZ   Bob



1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:26:53]
T#010,858,070,130,129,413,00000000

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:27:54]
T#011,858,072,130,129,413,00000000

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:28:55]
T#012,870,070,129,128,413,00000000

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[13:31:13]
s#013694,0z200,GAdG0dG0cGacGabGaaGbBFaCFbDFbDFbDFbE

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[13:31:58]
T#015,866,088,129,128,412,00000000


From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Thu Jun  4 03:48:50 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 00:48:50 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT telemetry
Message-ID: <B651B9BA8A7E4893BC34F9C6C765FCDD@PC1>

Jun 4, 2015 
03:39 UTC

2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [00:39:15R]
s#013984,0z200,000000000000000000000000000000000000

73s de LW8EXS 
Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun  4 12:35:02 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:35:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT telemetry
In-Reply-To: <B651B9BA8A7E4893BC34F9C6C765FCDD@PC1>
References: <B651B9BA8A7E4893BC34F9C6C765FCDD@PC1>
Message-ID: <3ab91a6283b9b3d1c4c6c3f6a43fae70@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks.
It was in the dark, so no sun data..
bob

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Pablo J.M.
- LW8EXS
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:49 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT telemetry

Jun 4, 2015
03:39 UTC

2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [00:39:15R]
s#013984,0z200,000000000000000000000000000000000000

73s de LW8EXS
Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun  4 13:11:50 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:11:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
Message-ID: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>

What is the best mast-mount PA / LNA on the market these days.

Our old TE Systems amps are now over 15 years old and have only mildly been
protected from the weather.



Since I am not hearing as well as some other stations, maybe it is time to
replace/upgrade?



The TE systems had a low noise preamp for receive and 100W amp for TX.



We need the amp because we have 150? of coax to the roof.



Do they still make ?em?



So whats out there?

Bob, Wb4APR

From wageners at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 13:43:07 2015
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:43:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
In-Reply-To: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHASQLpnj1eQNoYbpCNRDt8nD9tqCQHGcqKQwUjdKseXGg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bob,

As you know, the best "PA/LNA" is actually the antenna. There is only so
much "signal" out there and if the antenna does not pick it up well the
PA/LNA will not do much either. It was always designed to "just" overcome
signal loss due to cable length/quality. Short of that, the SSB preamps
(SSB Germany) are some of the best with adjustable gain and very low noise
figures. However, you pay for it too :-)


73, Stefan VE4NSA

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> What is the best mast-mount PA / LNA on the market these days.
>
> Our old TE Systems amps are now over 15 years old and have only mildly been
> protected from the weather.
>
>
>
> Since I am not hearing as well as some other stations, maybe it is time to
> replace/upgrade?
>
>
>
> The TE systems had a low noise preamp for receive and 100W amp for TX.
>
>
>
> We need the amp because we have 150? of coax to the roof.
>
>
>
> Do they still make ?em?
>
>
>
> So whats out there?
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Jun  4 13:56:34 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:56:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
In-Reply-To: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrC_fWUWgzA14yGdJa8KQnYjXnX4EruaLmyDPTRJvcoEA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure that there's a PA on the market that actually has a high
quality LNA built into it. From what I've seen, the amps with built in
LNAs seem to have mediocre specs. Your best bet is probably a separate
PA at a convenient location along the coax run and a mast mounted
preamp (the SSB Electronics preamps can handle 100w RF-switched and
the ARR preamps can handle up to 25w or 160w RF-switched (depending on
the model)).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> What is the best mast-mount PA / LNA on the market these days.
>
> Our old TE Systems amps are now over 15 years old and have only mildly been
> protected from the weather.
>
>
>
> Since I am not hearing as well as some other stations, maybe it is time to
> replace/upgrade?
>
>
>
> The TE systems had a low noise preamp for receive and 100W amp for TX.
>
>
>
> We need the amp because we have 150? of coax to the roof.
>
>
>
> Do they still make ?em?
>
>
>
> So whats out there?
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 14:03:57 2015
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:03:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
In-Reply-To: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9Fd2thAjUz39PsV05HNe30_YZy4BztUoAVqnP1nrXmO-dw@mail.gmail.com>

Bob,

I've had good luck with ARR preamps.

http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4

From dwarnberg at verizon.net  Thu Jun  4 16:01:38 2015
From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:01:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9Fd2thAjUz39PsV05HNe30_YZy4BztUoAVqnP1nrXmO-dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9Fd2thAjUz39PsV05HNe30_YZy4BztUoAVqnP1nrXmO-dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007a01d09edf$c2e3f7c0$48abe740$@net>

I can second that, I have them on my egg beaters and they work very well..

David  KK4QOE

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave Webb
KB1PVH
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Bob Bruninga
Cc: AMSAT -BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?

Bob,

I've had good luck with ARR preamps.

http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4
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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Thu Jun  4 18:54:54 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:54:54 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT  Orbit-228
Message-ID: <55709EFE.5050500@verizon.net>

Received 5 packets on the 18:36u pass Orbit-228
Could not digi any packets.


KO6TZ   Bob


1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:37:40]
T#321,851,365,129,128,414,00000000

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:38:40]
T#322,845,362,129,128,414,00000000

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[11:39:38]
s#014594,0z200,FAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdF0dF0eF0eF0e

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:39:41]
T#323,852,086,130,128,414,00000000

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:40:42]
T#324,832,364,129,127,414,00000000


From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Jun  4 19:23:31 2015
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:23:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Orbit-228
In-Reply-To: <55709EFE.5050500@verizon.net>
References: <55709EFE.5050500@verizon.net>
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On my last try I saw a digi from one person, but got no telemetry.
Just checking here, I'm using UISS as software. I've got "CQ" in the "To:"
box and "PSAT" in the "Via:" box. That should work, yes?
If not, what are other folks using?

Steve AI9IN

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, KO6TZ Bob <my.callsign at verizon.net> wrote:

> Received 5 packets on the 18:36u pass Orbit-228
> Could not digi any packets.
>
>
> KO6TZ   Bob
>
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:37:40]
> T#321,851,365,129,128,414,00000000
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:38:40]
> T#322,845,362,129,128,414,00000000
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[11:39:38]
> s#014594,0z200,FAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdFAdF0dF0eF0eF0e
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:39:41]
> T#323,852,086,130,128,414,00000000
>
> 1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[11:40:42]
> T#324,832,364,129,127,414,00000000
>
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From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Thu Jun  4 20:09:16 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:09:16 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] report PSAT-1
Message-ID: <6C7CF95BCE634E609C09861A7EAE7D6E@PC1>

Jun 4, 2015 
19:03 UTC

RX: PY2SDR via Digi PSAT-1
73s de LW8EXS 
Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina

From my.callsign at verizon.net  Thu Jun  4 22:39:43 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:39:43 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Orbit-228
In-Reply-To: <CAJkFkuz1jbMRtheAkbY55gJb4R0ho2kCA8JtkF-aHiXOFgB=Pg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkFkuz1jbMRtheAkbY55gJb4R0ho2kCA8JtkF-aHiXOFgB=Pg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5570D3AF.2000504@verizon.net>

Steve,

I am using   to: "APRS"  but "CQ" should be just as good.
For the via:  PSAT,ARISS,SGATE .

ARISS is for the double hop if the ISS is in range, and SGATE to put a 
digi'd  packets on the internet sites.

KO6TZ   Bob


 >On my last try I saw a digi from one person, but got no telemetry. 
Just checking here, I'm using UISS as software. I've >got "CQ" in the 
"To:" box and "PSAT" in the "Via:" box. That should work, yes? If not, 
what are other folks using?


  >Steve AI9IN

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun  4 22:44:52 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 18:44:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT paths
Message-ID: <d3046130105c00f3076f903dd5d2337c@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, the best path should be VIA ARISS.  There is no need for SGATE,
since all APRS IGates automatically send everything they hear to the
internet.  And if you set VIA PSAT as the path, then you just have to
change it again for ISS.

So just use via ARISS and both PSAT and/or ISS will digipeat it.

PSAT and all other APRS satellite also support the generic space alias of
APRSAT, but since the ISS doesn't support that path, then the most generic
path is VIA ARISS which will work with all of them.

Hope that helps.
Bob, WB4aPR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of KO6TZ Bob
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:40 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Orbit-228

Steve,

I am using   to: "APRS"  but "CQ" should be just as good.
For the via:  PSAT,ARISS,SGATE .

ARISS is for the double hop if the ISS is in range, and SGATE to put a
digi'd  packets on the internet sites.

KO6TZ   Bob


 >On my last try I saw a digi from one person, but got no telemetry.
Just checking here, I'm using UISS as software. I've >got "CQ" in the
"To:" box and "PSAT" in the "Via:" box. That should work, yes? If not,
what are other folks using?


  >Steve AI9IN
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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Thu Jun  4 23:15:18 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:15:18 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT paths
In-Reply-To: <d3046130105c00f3076f903dd5d2337c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d3046130105c00f3076f903dd5d2337c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5570DC06.70200@verizon.net>

Bob,

If I used just "ARISS" as the path, and PSAT repeated the packet, how 
would the ISS repeat the packet ? (if in range)
Wouldn't it need another alias or call in the path for a double hop ?

BOB  KO6TZ

From Rogerkola at aol.com  Fri Jun  5 00:16:54 2015
From: Rogerkola at aol.com (Roger Kolakowski)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 20:16:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1707z PSAT pass
In-Reply-To: <018801d09e23$384f00d0$a8ed0270$@w0dhb.net>
References: <018801d09e23$384f00d0$a8ed0270$@w0dhb.net>
Message-ID: <5570EA76.1060700@aol.com>

I noticed the last couple of evenings on ISS, a station beaconing every 
3 seconds...

All of the acks don't get listed on the "heard" page but if that is 
"stuck" on 145.825 it sure doesn't help analyzing the packet signals 
from the sats on that freq.

Roger
WA1KAT

On 06/03/2015 1:32 PM, David W0DHB wrote:
> This last pass of PSAT (26deg peak here) I could see packets but never
> strong enough to decode.
>
>   
>
> I know from APRS.fi that some folks are copying.
>
>   
>
> Also noticed that end of the pass it appeared on the waterfall it was
> digipeating me, but I couldn't decode.
>
>   
>
> I will try again 1846z pass which is 49 deg here.
>
>   
>
> Dave W0DHB

From les at highnoonfilm.com  Thu Jun  4 23:45:44 2015
From: les at highnoonfilm.com (Les Rayburn)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 18:45:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Started in Satellites Publication--Latest
	Edition?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1662.1433457896.16258.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.1662.1433457896.16258.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <5570E328.4090300@highnoonfilm.com>

When will the next edition of "Getting Started in Satellites" be 
published by AMSAT? I find it very helpful for me, as my work schedule 
allows me to get active in satellites again for a few weeks--then long 
absences (months)---meaning that I frequently have to try to remember 
what I've forgotten! :-)


-- 
--
73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484

Active on 6 Meters thru 1296


From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Fri Jun  5 00:30:17 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:30:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Started in Satellites Publication--Latest
	Edition?
In-Reply-To: <5570E328.4090300@highnoonfilm.com>
References: <mailman.1662.1433457896.16258.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<5570E328.4090300@highnoonfilm.com>
Message-ID: <E84F719F-2611-4AA3-9C29-D729D0E47CAD@mindspring.com>

The latest version was just debuted at Dayton.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Les Rayburn <les at highnoonfilm.com> wrote:
> 
> When will the next edition of "Getting Started in Satellites" be published by AMSAT? I find it very helpful for me, as my work schedule allows me to get active in satellites again for a few weeks--then long absences (months)---meaning that I frequently have to try to remember what I've forgotten! :-)
> 
> 
> -- 
> --
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
> 
> 6M VUCC #1712
> AMSAT #38965
> Grid Bandits #222
> Southeastern VHF Society
> Central States VHF Society Life Member
> Six Club #2484
> 
> Active on 6 Meters thru 1296
> 
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun  5 00:34:27 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:34:27 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Started in Satellites Publication--Latest
	Edition?
In-Reply-To: <5570E328.4090300@highnoonfilm.com>
References: <mailman.1662.1433457896.16258.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<5570E328.4090300@highnoonfilm.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqGZBtLsxLVSw_nt5cA_VvPP20Dt0228_UJ-GVsKm42zg@mail.gmail.com>

Les,

The 2015 edition, released at Dayton, is available here:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=125

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Les Rayburn <les at highnoonfilm.com> wrote:
> When will the next edition of "Getting Started in Satellites" be published
> by AMSAT? I find it very helpful for me, as my work schedule allows me to
> get active in satellites again for a few weeks--then long absences
> (months)---meaning that I frequently have to try to remember what I've
> forgotten! :-)
>
>
> --
> --
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
>
> 6M VUCC #1712
> AMSAT #38965
> Grid Bandits #222
> Southeastern VHF Society
> Central States VHF Society Life Member
> Six Club #2484
>
> Active on 6 Meters thru 1296
>
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From k.swaggart at charter.net  Fri Jun  5 01:12:05 2015
From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 18:12:05 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase IVB orbital slot?
In-Reply-To: <E84F719F-2611-4AA3-9C29-D729D0E47CAD@mindspring.com>
References: <mailman.1662.1433457896.16258.amsat-bb@amsat.org><5570E328.4090300@highnoonfilm.com>
	<E84F719F-2611-4AA3-9C29-D729D0E47CAD@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <245479E08EBF4E96851A3AFD6085339F@BlackPC>

Has there been any mention of what slot on the Clark Belt Phase IVB will 
use?  And how many degrees drift from geostationary?

TNX,
Ken, W7KKE 


From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jun  5 01:50:26 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 21:50:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT paths
In-Reply-To: <5570DC06.70200@verizon.net>
References: <d3046130105c00f3076f903dd5d2337c@mail.gmail.com>
	<5570DC06.70200@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <7c9c28e4bb6ce349352bb4252a043098@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, so do ARISS,ARISS, but recognize that your packet just got longer and
thus a lower probability of success.

Bob


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:15 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT paths

Bob,

If I used just "ARISS" as the path, and PSAT repeated the packet, how
would the ISS repeat the packet ? (if in range) Wouldn't it need another
alias or call in the path for a double hop ?

BOB  KO6TZ
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From zleffke at vt.edu  Thu Jun  4 23:27:52 2015
From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:27:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
In-Reply-To: <007a01d09edf$c2e3f7c0$48abe740$@net>
References: <5d17d7ca2d45f78b0d2f5f32c3c57c74@mail.gmail.com>	<CAEMY9Fd2thAjUz39PsV05HNe30_YZy4BztUoAVqnP1nrXmO-dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<007a01d09edf$c2e3f7c0$48abe740$@net>
Message-ID: <5570DEF8.1030303@vt.edu>

Bob,

For LNAs:
I'll throw in a vote for ARR as well.  I personally own both their 
receive only pre-amps and the model referenced in the link below for 
2m/70cm.  The VT amateur radio club has used them in the past as well 
(and will be again in the near future).  Additionally, the big ground 
station we are building at VT (separate from the amateur radio club, 
calling it the VTGS) will also be using them on 2m, 70cm, and for the 
NOAA 137MHz birds.  I have had great success with them.

I did a massive survey to try to answer this question for the VTGS 
design and finally settled on the ARR devices.  Down East Microwave and 
Kuhne Electronics were high on the list, but they only sell RX only 
pre-amps, requiring you to come up with your own solution for the 
bypassing/sequencing for TX.  I think M2 Antennas has an option or two, 
but they are super high quality and super expensive (I think geared more 
towards kW operations and EME work).  The models referenced KB1PVH below 
have a built in RF Sense circuit for automatically switching for TX 
operations, but if you are like me and nervous about the RF sense stuff 
failing and cooking your pre-amp, they have a PTT signal built in for 
use with an external sequencer.  They can handle up to 160W when in TX 
state.  For the quality of the product (RX performance, and weather 
proof mast mountable), ease of use on TX (rf sense or ptt), and the 
price point, ARR was the way to go for us.  One final bump for them is 
their customer service.  I discussed this with them during my survey for 
the VTGS design and they basically said that if you accidentally cook 
one of their pre-amps, the cost to repair it is minimal (not much more 
than the cost of shipping).

For PAs:
I also did a big survey to try to answer this question as well.  The 
options I looked at included some designs from W6PQL based on the 
mitsubishi RF MOSFET modules (with the right filtering!!!, 
www.w6pql.com), the designs from Down East Microwave based on the MOSFET 
modules (no filtering though), some commercial broad-band amps that 
cover 2m/70cm, the very common Mirage brick amps, and finally Kuhne 
Electronics (out of Germany).  For the VTGS we have a bit different 
setup that uses SDRs on the backend instead of traditional HW radios.  
The devices we are using (Ettus USRPs with WBX/SBX daughterboards) only 
put out about 100mW max output on the Amateur Satellite bands.  So I 
needed to get from about 100mW to about 100W and ensuring that I meet 
FCC limits for out of band performance.  I finally settled on some 
products from Kuhne Electronics that can achieve full drive of 60W with 
about 10mW on the input and have built in filtering to meet FCC limits.

If your looking for a mast mounted PA, you might want to consider the 
Mitsubishi RF Modules (be careful about harmonics, and out of band 
emissions!) and the designs from W6PQL.  He also offers some good 
filters that provide (1) the required suppression for out of band 
emssions and (2) RF detection ports for monitoring fwd/rev power 
levels.  This could be a fairly compact design that could be integrated 
into a weatherproof enclosure and mounted on the mast. Its not a canned 
solution that you can just buy though.  Someone would have to do the 
detailed design work, and then actually build everything, I'm just 
throwing it out there as an idea.

It sounds like the simplest "swap option" to replace your existing 
hardware might be the Mirage amps (http://www.mirageamp.com/).  They 
have built in pre-amps, can get you up to around 160W or so on 2m 
(model: B-1018-G) and 100W on 70cm (model: D-1010-N) with about 10W 
drive, have the TX/RX circuitry built right in, and have the right 
filtering.  I have only ever used them with the manual ssb/fm switch, so 
for mast mounting I think they have a remote control head that can be 
used to pick which mode your in from the schack (instead of going up on 
the roof and flipping the ssb/fm switch).  It sounds like you might be 
able to directly replace your existing gear with these devices, and it 
might be the easiest route.  Maybe some of these with better weather 
proofing (they're not designed for outdoor use), and maybe better 
cooling (though at low duty cycle use like packet, that might not be 
much of a concern).

Even though the Mirage amps have built in pre-amps, I'd still think 
about putting the ARR gear inline closer to the antennas and using 
sequencers, they are really good performers on RX.


-Zach, KJ4QLP

On 6/4/2015 12:01 PM, David L Warnberg wrote:
> I can second that, I have them on my egg beaters and they work very well..
>
> David  KK4QOE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave Webb
> KB1PVH
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 10:04 AM
> To: Bob Bruninga
> Cc: AMSAT -BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best Mast mount PA/LNA?
>
> Bob,
>
> I've had good luck with ARR preamps.
>
> http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Samsung S4
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From zleffke at vt.edu  Fri Jun  5 04:20:51 2015
From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 00:20:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Test email
Message-ID: <20150605042055.4A4AE80006@hume-197.cc.ncr.vt.edu>

Test email, please disregard.

-Zach, KJ4QLP

From skristof at etczone.com  Fri Jun  5 14:33:51 2015
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:33:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unusual
Message-ID: <F315758DCD6E43BBAABBD36EA45D2CBA@StevePC>

Unusual to hear no one on SO-50 this morning during 1419 to 1433 UTC pass here in EM79.

Steve Kristoff AI9IN
skristof at etczone.com


From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun  5 15:05:43 2015
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:05:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase IVB orbital slot?
In-Reply-To: <245479E08EBF4E96851A3AFD6085339F@BlackPC>
References: <245479E08EBF4E96851A3AFD6085339F@BlackPC>
Message-ID: <454273743.9300385.1433516743056.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Ken, as yet no-one has posted where the Geosynchronous orbit will be positioned or the name of the company that will own the satellite.  I presume the information is commercially sensitive but I'm sure AMSAT will be making it available at a later date when they are permitted to do so.
73 Trevor M5AKA 


     On Friday, 5 June 2015, 2:12, Ken Swaggart <k.swaggart at charter.net> wrote:
   

 Has there been any mention of what slot on the Clark Belt Phase IVB will 
use?? And how many degrees drift from geostationary?

TNX,
Ken, W7KKE 

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From w1pa at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  5 15:27:04 2015
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill ACITO, W1PA)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:27:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Unusual
Message-ID: <BAY180-DS18E960DF08BF096F57DC7A98B20@phx.gbl>

Steve,

It was a full pass, 8 to 9 stations.  Was that pass directly 
overhead for you?  I know on a 70 deg + pass,
I cannot hear either the first or second half at all, even 
with a pre-amp on the arrow.
I think the whip antenna points right at you on an overhead, 
or is shielded by
the body of the bird, and you sit in the null.

Bill
W1PA 


From Rogerkola at aol.com  Fri Jun  5 15:28:11 2015
From: Rogerkola at aol.com (Roger Kolakowski)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 11:28:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Observation
Message-ID: <5571C00B.9080504@aol.com>

Just had an overhead descending pass in New England and saw PSAT was 
being pounded by several unattended beacons set for every couple of 
seconds. One was a 3 and the other a zero. ISS was also in their unproto 
path.

Luckily the SGATEs seem to be down so there is no positive reinforcement 
for the activity.

I can get acks over Canada and over the Atlantic with 10 watts to a 
vertical but I don't seem to decode noisy signals as well as the old 
days of ISS Ericksson and  PCSAT.

I think I'm done for a while until the earth based ops get their 
stations in order.

Nice to have the APRS / UNPROTO activity though!

Roger
WA1KAT



From yogiwn9q at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 15:33:01 2015
From: yogiwn9q at gmail.com (David Jaeger)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:33:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] USS COBIA NB9QV
Message-ID: <CAFABCXBE2TaGQYNg+6wQGrcr09Pdik=rq98FvHt8ytfSV+-KaA@mail.gmail.com>

The "Museum Ships on the Air" is this Saturday and Sunday.  I will be
aboard the submarine USS Cobia and activate the callsign  NB9QV on the
morning passes on SO-50 on Saturday and weather permitting Sunday.  There
is a challenge operating from the deck of a submarine during windy
conditions as one tries to keep the gear from ending up in the harbor.  The
HF operators work from the crew's mess.  Info about the Cobia can be found
on QRZ.com under NB9QV as well as QSL info.

          Regards to all,
                                  Dave,  WN9Q

From skristof at etczone.com  Fri Jun  5 16:11:53 2015
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:11:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unusual
In-Reply-To: <BAY180-DS18E960DF08BF096F57DC7A98B20@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY180-DS18E960DF08BF096F57DC7A98B20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <89D61CB60AD641EB938CF6B38DA4348A@StevePC>

Not sure what my problem was, Bill. I don't think that you and I have ever 
had a QSO, but I remember hearing your call from past passes, so you are one 
of the folks I can usually hear.

I'll chalk it up to operator error (the most likely scenario) and get out 
again tomorrow morning.
Catch you on SO-50!

Steve AI9IN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill ACITO, W1PA" <w1pa at hotmail.com>
To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unusual


> Steve,
>
> It was a full pass, 8 to 9 stations.  Was that pass directly overhead for 
> you?  I know on a 70 deg + pass,
> I cannot hear either the first or second half at all, even with a pre-amp 
> on the arrow.
> I think the whip antenna points right at you on an overhead, or is 
> shielded by
> the body of the bird, and you sit in the null.
>
> Bill
> W1PA
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yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the 
financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New 
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Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 


From wa4sca at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 16:14:33 2015
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:14:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase IVB orbital slot?
In-Reply-To: <454273743.9300385.1433516743056.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <245479E08EBF4E96851A3AFD6085339F@BlackPC>
	<454273743.9300385.1433516743056.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901d09faa$b5c4ba90$214e2fb0$@GMAIL.COM>

Trevor,

You are correct that there are VERY tight constraints on what information may be released at this time.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA

<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of M5AKA
<Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:06 AM
<To: AMSAT BB
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase IVB orbital slot?
<
<Ken, as yet no-one has posted where the Geosynchronous orbit will be positioned or the name of the company that will own
<the satellite.  I presume the information is commercially sensitive but I'm sure AMSAT will be making it available at a later
<date when they are permitted to do so.
<73 Trevor M5AKA
<
<
<     On Friday, 5 June 2015, 2:12, Ken Swaggart <k.swaggart at charter.net> wrote:
<
<
< Has there been any mention of what slot on the Clark Belt Phase IVB will
<use?? And how many degrees drift from geostationary?
<
<TNX,
<Ken, W7KKE
<
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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 17:38:31 2015
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:38:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/P EM60 FO-29 this afternoon, June 5
Message-ID: <CAPovOwcf8ZMG4agth-nD+929vNf29PsqfvYEhkRQMOb3DWtchQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'll operate from EM60 on two FO-29 passes this afternoon, June 5.

19:51 UTC
21:35 UTC

There are some rain showers in the area so please forgive me for being a
fair weather operator. This is vacation!

If weather cooperates, I'll also work the 03:28 UTC pass of AO-73 as
W5PFG/4.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From yogiwn9q at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 17:46:07 2015
From: yogiwn9q at gmail.com (David Jaeger)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:46:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Submarine USS Cobia, NB9QV
Message-ID: <CAFABCXDRRGmt41mQEnrFSNh714miqo1K19JO=6n9TWzOoJDYNQ@mail.gmail.com>

The "Museum Ships on the Air" is this Saturday and Sunday.  I will be
aboard the submarine USS Cobia and activate the callsign  NB9QV on the
morning passes on SO-50 on Saturday and weather permitting Sunday.  There
is a challenge operating from the deck of a submarine during windy
conditions as one tries to keep the gear from ending up in the harbor.  The
HF operators work from the crew's mess.  Info about the Cobia can be found
on QRZ.com under NB9QV as well as QSL info.

          Regards to all,
                                  Dave,  WN9Q

From jimlist at zoho.com  Fri Jun  5 21:15:33 2015
From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 22:15:33 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Mode
In-Reply-To: <2D8FA8F62B794A5EB0C1C90523A5F7B0@allgood.local>
References: <2D8FA8F62B794A5EB0C1C90523A5F7B0@allgood.local>
Message-ID: <55721175.50807@zoho.com>

Hi All,

Just confirm that FUNcube-1 was commanded into amateur mode at approx 21:12UTC this evening.

Planned to be switched back into auto mode on Sunday Pm UTC.

Enjoy the transponder.


73
Jim G3WGM



From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jun  6 14:23:35 2015
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 14:23:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium + NASATV + OSCAR
	News
Message-ID: <515904646.9891221.1433600615739.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

The AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium will be held on July 24-26, 2015 at the Holiday Inn, Guildford, GU2 7XZ, UK. Among the speakers will be: 
? Peter Guelzow DB2OS with an update on AMSAT-DL projects, including the Phase 4 satellite
? Chris Brunskill, formerly of Surrey Space Centre (SSC), now working at the Space Catapult at the Harwell Campus. He will be presenting an extremely novel project aimed at schools and education
? We are hoping that the BATC will attend and possibly demonstrate live Digital TV reception from the ISS, using the Ham TV system
? Drew Glasbrenner, KO5MA, from AMSAT North America will be attending, and presenting the latest news of the FOX satellite(s) due for launch later this year, and also on their Phase 4 project

Booking details at http://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/colloquium-2015/

OSCAR News Issue 210 now available for members to download
http://amsat-uk.org/2015/06/06/oscar-news-issue-210/

Return to Earth of Samantha Cristoforetti IZ0UDF on NASA TV
http://amsat-uk.org/2015/06/05/radio-ham-returns-to-earth/

ISS, Satellites and High Altitude Balloons
http://amsat-uk.org/2015/06/05/iss-satellites-and-hab/


73 Trevor M5AKA----
AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/
Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK
Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK
----


From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 15:36:25 2015
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 15:36:25 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] More Problems With Lightsail
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkPg7LQysfbg9RtoOAAU=h+nnX08LfpU7Oj5NL76sE01QQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.parabolicarc.com/2015/06/06/lightsail-falls-silent-battery-problem-suspected/

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150604-lightsail-silent-again.html

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From amsat at n0jy.org  Sat Jun  6 15:53:48 2015
From: amsat at n0jy.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:53:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] More Problems With Lightsail
In-Reply-To: <CAP7QzkPg7LQysfbg9RtoOAAU=h+nnX08LfpU7Oj5NL76sE01QQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP7QzkPg7LQysfbg9RtoOAAU=h+nnX08LfpU7Oj5NL76sE01QQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5573178C.5040009@n0jy.org>

They're not problems, they are challenges!    :-)

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 6/6/2015 10:36, B J wrote:
> http://www.parabolicarc.com/2015/06/06/lightsail-falls-silent-battery-problem-suspected/
>
> http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150604-lightsail-silent-again.html
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Sat Jun  6 16:53:41 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:53:41 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] First PSAT digi
Message-ID: <55732595.9080903@verizon.net>

I finally got a digi thru PSAT.

My first and only so far.  I used the <UI> path of ARISS,ARISS   and the 
digi inserted PSAT with the star after the first ARISS as expected.


KO6TZ   Bob


1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via ARISS,ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=7 >[09:31:42]
  DM13rw

1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via PSAT,ARISS*,ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=7 >[09:31:44]
  DM13rw

From quadpugh at bellsouth.net  Sat Jun  6 16:56:29 2015
From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh K5QXJ)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:56:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] tle for psat
Message-ID: <09c301d0a079$bd288260$37798720$@net>

Can somebody post the tle for PSAT

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

nick

Office   337 593 8700

Cell      337 258 2527

 

Helping UL become a world Class Engineering  and Educational School

Disagree I Learn

 

 


From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Sat Jun  6 17:03:18 2015
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 19:03:18 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] tle for psat
In-Reply-To: <09c301d0a079$bd288260$37798720$@net>
References: <09c301d0a079$bd288260$37798720$@net>
Message-ID: <6149d266265095b063af9d60e7c0f320@vgnet.nl>

Hi Nick

PSAT
1 90720U          15156.80914911 +.00016501 +00000-0 +43394-3 0 00292
2 90720 054.9964 269.9626 0247729 221.9982 136.1774 15.13209934002458

73 Jan (PE0SAT)


On 06-06-2015 18:56, Nick Pugh K5QXJ wrote:
> Can somebody post the tle for PSAT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> nick
> 
> Office   337 593 8700
> 
> Cell      337 258 2527
> 
> 
> 
> Helping UL become a world Class Engineering  and Educational School
> 
> Disagree I Learn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From mikesprenger at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 17:24:05 2015
From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:24:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT downlink
Message-ID: <6570EF0F-D294-4B57-8161-7F036B1D06D7@gmail.com>

So I was able to copy Psat  435 mhz downlink today...nice !

Copying the beacon with digipan was quite easy. Watching the stations move diagonally across the waterfall was an interesting Display of the Doppler on the uplink. Watching the satellite today transmit then cease to transmit then transmit again raises one question. 

Does someone have to be transmitting to the input of the satellite on 28MHz for the beacon / fm 435 MHz downlink to be active ?

Thanks,
Mike
W4UOO

Sent from my iPhone

From dave at w0dhb.net  Sat Jun  6 17:36:10 2015
From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:36:10 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT downlink
In-Reply-To: <6570EF0F-D294-4B57-8161-7F036B1D06D7@gmail.com>
References: <6570EF0F-D294-4B57-8161-7F036B1D06D7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002f01d0a07f$475c0c90$d61425b0$@w0dhb.net>

Mike

Yes, PSK31 must be detected (or w3ado beacon must TX) before 70cm downlink
transmits.

The diagonal moving stations were probably just terrestrial QSO' s .

 Dave 

-----Original Message-----
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Sprenger
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:24 AM
To: Amsat Bb-list
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT downlink

So I was able to copy Psat  435 mhz downlink today...nice !

Copying the beacon with digipan was quite easy. Watching the stations move
diagonally across the waterfall was an interesting Display of the Doppler on
the uplink. Watching the satellite today transmit then cease to transmit
then transmit again raises one question. 

Does someone have to be transmitting to the input of the satellite on 28MHz
for the beacon / fm 435 MHz downlink to be active ?

Thanks,
Mike
W4UOO

Sent from my iPhone
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From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Sat Jun  6 17:57:35 2015
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 19:57:35 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT downlink
In-Reply-To: <002f01d0a07f$475c0c90$d61425b0$@w0dhb.net>
References: <6570EF0F-D294-4B57-8161-7F036B1D06D7@gmail.com>
	<002f01d0a07f$475c0c90$d61425b0$@w0dhb.net>
Message-ID: <000601d0a082$455a8fe0$d00fafa0$@de>

Mike,

the PSK31 transponder is always in AUTO mode, listening for a PSK31 signal
at 28.120 MHz. 

73 Mike
DK3WN

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von David W0DHB
Gesendet: 06 June 2015 19:36
An: 'Mike Sprenger'; 'Amsat Bb-list'
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT downlink

Mike

Yes, PSK31 must be detected (or w3ado beacon must TX) before 70cm downlink
transmits.

The diagonal moving stations were probably just terrestrial QSO' s .

 Dave 

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Sprenger
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:24 AM
To: Amsat Bb-list
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT downlink

So I was able to copy Psat  435 mhz downlink today...nice !

Copying the beacon with digipan was quite easy. Watching the stations move
diagonally across the waterfall was an interesting Display of the Doppler on
the uplink. Watching the satellite today transmit then cease to transmit
then transmit again raises one question. 

Does someone have to be transmitting to the input of the satellite on 28MHz
for the beacon / fm 435 MHz downlink to be active ?

Thanks,
Mike
W4UOO

Sent from my iPhone
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From w7lrd at comcast.net  Sat Jun  6 18:13:46 2015
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 18:13:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT doppler.sqf
Message-ID: <607694482.24405412.1433614426841.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>

Hi- I need the doppler.sqf file for satpc32 
73 Bob W7LRD 

From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Sat Jun  6 18:17:16 2015
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:17:16 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT doppler.sqf
In-Reply-To: <607694482.24405412.1433614426841.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
References: <607694482.24405412.1433614426841.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ddd4045d71cb27c06eea6be8e4a11002@vgnet.nl>


Hi Bob,

This should work

PSAT,145825,0,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,PSAT APRS
PSAT,435350,0,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,PSAT PSK31
PSAT,435350,28120,FM,USB,NOR,0,0,PSAT PSK31

73 Jan PE0SAT

On 06-06-2015 20:13, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
> Hi- I need the doppler.sqf file for satpc32
> 73 Bob W7LRD
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From wao at vfr.net  Sun Jun  7 00:55:37 2015
From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 17:55:37 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-158 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <55739689.6040407@vfr.net>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-158

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* OSCAR Numbers Assigned for BRICsat (NO-83) and PSAT (NO-84)
* 2015 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice
* May/June 2015 AMSAT Journal is Complete
* Fox 1C Engineering Model Update Video
* Program for SA AMSAT Symposium Announced
* Call For Papers: 2015 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference
* Sailboat Expedition to Grid DM02 Begins June 10
* AMSAT Will be at Ham-Com 2015
* AMSAT Events
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-158.01
ANS-158 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 158.01
 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE June 7, 2015
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-158.01


---------------------------------------------------------------------


OSCAR Numbers Assigned for BRICsat (NO-83) and PSAT (NO-84)


The following message has been sent to Bob Bruninga, WB4APR and the team 
at the
US Naval Academy.

"Bob:

You have requested OSCAR numbers for BRICsat and PSAT built by you and your
associates at the U.S. Naval Academy.

 From everything I can determine, these satellites meet all of the 
requirements
for OSCAR designations.

Therefore, by the authority vested in me by the AMSAT-NA President, I hereby
confer the designation, Naval Academy OSCAR 83 on BRICsat amd Naval Academy
OSCAR 84 on PSAT These designations can, of course, for convenience, be
shortened to NO-83 and NO-84.

I, and the entire amateur satellite community, hope for successful missions
for both NO-83 and NO-84 and congratulate you and the rest of the Naval 
Academy
team who designed, built and tested these two OSCAR spacecraft.

73,
William A. (Bill) Tynan, W3XO
OSCAR Number Administrator"


NO-84 PSAT, a student satellite project named in honor of USNA alum
Bradford Parkinson, of GPS fame, contains an APRS transponder for relaying
remote telemetry, sensor, and user data from remote users and Amateur Radio
environmental experiments or other data sources back to Amateur Radio
experimenters via a global network of Internet-linked ground stations.

PSAT is another APRS satelliite that can digipeat user packets just like the
original PCSAT (NO44) and the packet system on the ISS. PSAT also 
supports the
same digipeating alias of ARISS so that users do not have to change any
parameters when using any of these three APRS transponders.

see
http://www.aprs.org/psat.html

NO-83 BRICsat-P (Ballistic Reinforced Communication Satellite) is a low cost
1.5U CubeSat built by the US Naval Academy Satellite Lab in 
collaboration with
George Washington University, that will demonstrate on-orbit operation of a
Micro-Cathode Arc Thruster (?CAT) electric propulsion system and carries an
Amateur communication payload.

see
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/bricsat-p.htm

Frequencies
PSAT: 145.825 ? 1200 baud AX.25 telemetry ? digi off
PSAT PSK31-5: 435.350 FM down, 28.120 SSB PK31 uplink ? Brno University
Transponder

BRICsat: 437.975 ? 9600 baud telemetry evry 20s
BRICsat PSK31-6 ? same as PSAT but PSK TLM on 375 Hz (PSAT on 315 Hz)


[ANS thanks Bill Tynan, W3XO for the above information]


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2015 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice


It is time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of
Directors election. Four director's terms expire this year: Barry Baines,
WD4ASW, Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, Mark Hammond, N8MH, and Jerry Buxton, N0JY. In
addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for one year terms.

A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current
individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for
Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and call,
and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual signatures
should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304 Kensington, MD
20895-2526.

In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which is the
preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by electronic
means. These include e-mail, Fax, or electronic image of a petition.
Electronic petitions should be sent to MARTHA at AMSAT.ORG or Faxed to (301)
822-4371.

No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June 15th
at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional written
nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than this, i.e.
electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST be received at the
AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days following the close of
nominations on June 15th. ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND,
WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS.


[ANS thanks Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary for the above
information]


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May/June 2015 AMSAT Journal is Complete


The May/June 2015 AMSAT Journal is complete and has been sent to the
print shop. The AMSAT Journal is a key membership benefit, mailed to
all members six times a year. If you are a member of AMSAT look for
your copy to arrive in your mailbox within a few weeks.

In this issue you will find ...

+ The Apogee View column by AMSAT President Barry Baines, WD4ASW
+ AMSAT-NA Opportunity for Ride-share to Geosynchronous Orbit
+ Fox-1A on the Road to Vandenberg
+ Getting on the Air With Fox-1A
+ Minutes of the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Teleconference
   by AMSAT Corporate Secretary, Alan Biddle, WA4SCA
+ CNCTRK - A LinuxCNC Based Satellite Tracking System
   by Bob Freeman, KI4SBL
+ US Naval Academy Launches PSAT, BRICsat, and USS Langley
   Cubesats by Bob Bruninga, WB4APR
+ Extreme DXing on FO-29 with a Portable Station
   by Hector Martinez, CO6CBF/W5CBF
+ Radio Amateurs invited to test APRS on Duchifat-1
+ Planetary Society Lightsail Launched
+ CAMSAT Press Release: Multiple Amateur Satellite Launch in July
+ AMSAT Activities at Greater Houston Hamfest 2015
   by Allen Mattis, N5AFV -and- Andy MacAllister, W5ACM
+ Monitoring Satellites Outside the Amateur Bands by Alex

Thanks to all who contributed to this issue and to the AMSAT Journa;
editorial team: Bernhard, VA6BMJ; Douglas, KA2UPW/5; James, K3JPH;
and Joe, KB6IGK.

Please send your articles, photos, reports of operating activities
to k9jkm at amsat.org. See
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=1709
for anauthor's guide. The Journal editors will be happy to work with you
to get into print!


[ANS thanks the AMSAT Journal editorial team for the above information]


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Fox 1C Engineering Model Update Video


A video update on Fox 1C Engineering Model from Fox Labs, Texas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdx3AqMUTO4&feature=youtu.be


[ANS thanks Jerry, N0JY, AMSAT Vice President for Engineering for the above
information]


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Program for SA AMSAT Symposium Announced


The program has been announced for the SA AMSAT Space Symposium 2015. The
Symposium will be on June 20, 2015 at the Innovation Centre, Pretoria, South
Africa.

See http://www.amsatsa.org.za/ for full details of the Symposium.

Speakers include:

+ Make Satellites your next journey into Amateur Radio
   Hans van de Groenendaal, ZS6AKV, President SA AMSAT

+ Keynote address - South Africa's contribution to space operations
   Raoul C Hodges, Managing Director, SANSA Space Operations

+ Gossamer sails for satellite deorbiting
   Lourens Visagie, ADCS Functional Area Engineer
   Space Advisory Company

+ ZACube-2: The successor to Africa's first nanosatellite.
   Danie de Villiers, Creative Technologist MTech/MSc Electronic
   Engineering CPUT

   The satellite will serve as technology demonstrator for essential
   subsystems and form the basis on which an innovative Software
   Defined Radio platform will be developed as primary payload.
   Secondary payload includes imaging capbilities

+ ZS6SRC - BACAR programme - Stimulating Science, Technology,
   Engineering and Mathematics with high performance learners.
   Christo Kriek ZR6LJK

+ KLETSKOUS -getting Africa into space
   Hannes Coetzee ZS6BZP, KLETSKOUS Project leader

+ Kletskous Space frame - From concept to experimental model
   Deon Coetzee ZR1DX

+ Methods to increase the strength-to-weight ratio
   of a cube-satellite
   Johannes Francois Oberholzer
   Stellenbosch University: Industrial Engineering Department

+ KLETSKOUS power unit - From concept to first prototype -
   Fritz Sutherland Jnr ZS6FSJ, Kletskous team

+ KLETSKOUS Communication Data Structure
   Brian Mckenzie ZS6BMN, Kletskous team

+ Second Proto type of the Transponder
   Jacques Roux ZR1ADC, Kletskous team

+ Development of ground control at VUT - B.Tech laboratory upgrade
   Riaan Greeff, ZS4PR, Vaal University of Technology

The presentations will be followed by the Annual General Meeting.


[ANS thanks SA AMSAT for the above information]


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Call For Papers: 2015 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference


We're soliciting technical papers for presentation at the 34th Annual
ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference, to be held October 9-11 in
Chicago, Illinois. Papers will also be published in the Conference 
Proceedings.
You do not have to attend the conference to have your paper included in the
Proceedings. The submission deadline is August 17, 2015.

E-mail your submission to Maty Weinberg at ARRL Headquarters at
maty at arrl.org<mailto:maty at arrl.org>
Please to do not send zip files as these will be rejected by our e-mail 
server.


[ANS thanks ARRL and TAPR for the above information]


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Sailboat Expedition to Grid DM02 Begins June 10


Bud, N7CW; Jim, K6ZH; and Phil, N0KE, plan to activate Grid DM02 from a
sailboat expedition to the waters near San Clemente Island off of the
southern California coast. Departure from San Diego will be on Wednesday,
June 10 aboard a 49' sailboat. The team plans to be on the air sometime late
Wednesday, through sometime on Sunday, June 14, including most of the VHF
contest. Unfortunately, they have to leave before the end of the contest
because the Navy has scheduled exercises in the area on Monday.

Activity includes 6 M, 2 M, probably 432, 1296 and satellites. Phil is
responsible for everything other than 6 M. They plan to look for meteor
scatter every morning and perhaps the evenings, unless there is Es. Since
there is no cell service they will be in contact with pilot stations on 2 M
FM in order to announce ourselves on Ping Jockey.  If you don't use meteor
scatter, it's not too late to learn! Otherwise you will have to listen for a
very short (distance) Es opening or backscatter or some other nearly
impossible propagation mode.

The expedition will be running about 500 W and a 3 el yagi (due to
constraints from having to mount the antenna on a sailboat). They will use
the call K6ZH. Watch for packet spots announcing their transmit frequency.


[ANS thanks Bud, N7CW and Patrick, WD9EWK for the above information]


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AMSAT Will be at Ham-Com 2015


If you're going to Ham-Com 2015 at the Irving Convention Center in the
Dallas - Ft. Worth area on June 12 to 13 look for AMSAT in booth #103. Also,
check the Ham-Com program for the presentation by Clayton Coleman W5PFG.
Clayton is an active member of AMSAT and the ARRL with a passion for Amateur
Radio in Space. Having activated over 100 grid squares, Clayton enjoys
helping others learn how to use minimal equipment
to enjoy our fleet of OSCAR's.


[ANS thanks Ham-Com for the above information]


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AMSAT Events


Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around
the country.  Examples of these events are radio club meetings where
AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working
amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with
AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations,
forums, and/or demonstrations).

*Friday and Saturday, 12-13 June 2015 ? HAM-COM in Irving TX (west of
Dallas)

*Thursday, 9 July 2015 ? presentation for the Escondido Amateur Radio
Society in Escondido CA

*Friday and Saturday, 7-8 August 2015 ? Austin Summerfest in Austin TX

*Saturday and Sunday, 22-23 August 2015 ? Boxboro Hamfest and ARRL
New England Convention in Boxborough MA

*Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, October 16-18 2015, AMSAT Symposium in
Dayton OH (Dayton Crown Plaza)


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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ARISS News


Upcoming ARISS Contacts

It is unlikely that there will be any contacts with the Columbus module
station until after a crew change, which will probably occur in late June or
July.

Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.


[ANS thanks ARISS, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over


* LightSail Drama Continues as Spacecraft Wakes for Second Time

LightSail is back in business, following the second extended outage of the
test spacecraft?s mission. The CubeSat checked in at 2:21 p.m. EDT 
(18:21 UTC)
Saturday for the first time since Wednesday afternoon. Over the course 
of two
overflights, 23 beacon telemetry packets were received by the 
spacecraft's Cal
Poly San Luis Obispo ground station.

A rapid sail deployment was briefly considered, but with battery levels 
still
unsteady and just one ground pass remaining before an eight-and-a-half hour
outage, the team scrapped the idea. When LightSail came around the Earth 
again,
telemetry showed its batteries were charging?the first time since solar 
panel
deployment three days ago.

If battery levels continue to trend stably during Sunday?s early morning
ground station passes, sail deployment will be scheduled for 2:02 p.m. EDT
(18:02 UTC).

Engineers have been working to narrow down the reason LightSail?s batteries
tripped into a safe mode-like condition following solar panel deployment.
Before this afternoon's signal acquisition, the leading theory was that the
spacecraft was stuck in a loop where power levels were too low in Earth's
shadow, but too high in sunlight. This power ping-pong could have 
prevented the
batteries from reattaching their circuits to the spacecraft and allowing 
normal
operations to resume. The analysis is still ongoing.

{ANS thanks the Planetary Society's Jason Davis for the above information]


* Goddard Technologist Advances CubeSat Concept for Planetary Exploration

  Although scientists are increasingly using pint-size satellites 
sometimes no
larger than a loaf of bread to gather data from low-Earth orbit, they 
have yet
to apply the less-expensive small-satellite technology to observe physical
phenomena far from terra firma.

Jaime Esper, a technologist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in
Greenbelt, Maryland, however, is advancing a CubeSat concept that would give
scientists that capability.

Dubbed the CubeSat Application for Planetary Entry Missions (CAPE), the
concept involves the development of two modules: a service module that would
propel the spacecraft to its celestial target and a separate planetary entry
probe that could survive a rapid dive through the atmosphere of an
extraterrestrial planet, all while reliably transmitting scientific and
engineering data.

Esper and his team are planning to test the stability of a prototype entry
vehicle -the Micro-Reentry Capsule (MIRCA) - this summer during a 
high-altitude
balloon mission from Fort Sumner, New Mexico.

'Like No Other CubeSat Mission'
"The CAPE/MIRCA concept is like no other CubeSat mission," Esper said. "It
goes the extra step in delivering a complete spacecraft for carrying out
scientific investigations. We are the only researchers working on a concept
like this."

Under his concept, the CAPE/MIRCA spacecraft, including the service 
module and
entry probe, would weigh less than 11 pounds (4.9 kilograms) and measure no
more than 4 inches (10.1 centimeters) on a side. After being ejected from a
canister housed by its mother ship, the tiny spacecraft would unfurl its
miniaturized solar panels or operate on internal battery power to begin its
journey to another planetary body.

Once it reached its destination, the sensor-loaded entry vehicle would
separate from its service module and begin its descent through the target's
atmosphere. It would communicate atmospheric pressure, temperature, and
composition data to the mother ship, which then would transmit the 
information
back to Earth.

The beauty of CubeSats is their versatility. Because they are relatively
inexpensive to build and deploy, scientists could conceivably launch 
multiple
spacecraft for multi-point sampling - a capability currently not 
available with
single planetary probes that are the NASA norm today.

Esper would equip the MIRCA craft with accelerometers, gyros, thermal and
pressure sensors, and radiometers, which measure specific gases; however,
scientists could tailor the instrument package depending on the targets, 
Esper
said.

A Balloon Flight is designed to test stability.
The first step in realizing the concept is demonstrating a prototype of the
MIRCA design during a balloon mission this summer. According to the 
plan, the
capsule, manufactured at NASA's Wallops Flight Facility on Virginia's 
Eastern
Shore, would be dropped from the balloon gondola at an altitude of about 
18.6
miles (30 kilometers) to test the design's aerodynamic stability and
operational concept. During its free fall, MIRCA is expected to reach 
speeds of
up to Mach 1, roughly the speed of sound.

"If I can demonstrate the entry vehicle, I then could attract potential
partners to provide the rest of the vehicle," Esper said, referring to the
service module, including propulsion and attitude-control subsystems. He 
added
that the concept might be particularly attractive to universities and
researchers with limited resources.

In addition to the balloon flight, Esper said he would like to drop the 
entry
vehicle from the International Space Station perhaps as early as 2016 - 
a test
that would expose the capsule to spaceflight and reentry heating 
conditions and
further advance its technology-readiness level.

"The balloon drop of MIRCA will in itself mark the first time a CubeSat
planetary entry capsule is flight tested, not only at Goddard, but anywhere
else in the world," he said. "That in turn enables new opportunities in
planetary exploration not available to date, and represents a game-changing
opportunity for Goddard."

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/The_CAPEd_Crusader_Goddard_Technologist_
Advances_CubeSat_Concept_for_Planetary_Exploration_999.html

[ANS thanks NASA Goddard, and Spacedaily.com for the above information]

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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Joe Spier, K6WAO
k6wao at amsat dot org

From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun Jun  7 02:10:54 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 22:10:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Doppler Science Project
Message-ID: <c601b0bd43da6e4af8af900b9a6bed76@mail.gmail.com>

>  I was able to copy Psat  435 mhz downlink today...nice !
> Watching the stations move diagonally across the waterfall
> was an interesting Display of the Doppler on the uplink.

Yes, and you can draw that Doppler curve and from the rate of change  you
can calculate that stations position!

That was the basis for all Early Satellite Positioning systems and most of
the early EPRB Emergency Locator beacons.  It woiuld be a great science
project for kids to plot the doppper and see if they can figure out the
position of a station!

When authors start upgrading PSK31 programs so that they are fdull duplex
and can AFC their own uplink, then none of the satellite user signals will
slew, but since we chose the same uplink as normal terrestrial PSK31
users, those signals can plot a nice Doppler curve.  The only problem
there is that they turn their transmitters on and off, but usually stay on
the same 10m frequency, so that means although their signals are disjoint,
their emissions should all be on their theoretical Doppler curve and
therefore can be located.

Actually, on just one pass all you can get is a line of position relative
to the satelites track,  But on two passes, then  you can have two lines
of position and where they intersect is the stations position.

Good luck!  Maybe someone has the time to search for a good reference for
the technique.

Bob, Wb4APR
US Naval Academy

From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 04:38:17 2015
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 04:38:17 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lightsail Back On
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkOHnmbb-81N6X1bRW8dqOYA9JFd0BNTO0wXpERbBxea1Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150506-lightsail-wakes-second-time-1.html

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From kshitij14395 at yahoo.co.in  Sun Jun  7 05:57:01 2015
From: kshitij14395 at yahoo.co.in (kshitij sandeep)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 05:57:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Interfacing ICOM 9100 with PC
Message-ID: <2125688569.3840871.1433656621452.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hey,

I have recently purchased an ICOM 9100 for the purposes of a educational satellite project.
I require the radio to uplink telecommands and downlink payload data and telemetry in FSK and OOK type modulation.
Any help regarding the interfacing of PC to the Radio for the same purpose would be deeply appreciated.

Thank you
Kshitij?

From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  7 13:03:51 2015
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 09:03:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Interfacing ICOM 9100 with PC
In-Reply-To: <2125688569.3840871.1433656621452.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2125688569.3840871.1433656621452.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10C43BDA-7618-416B-9D99-80A581BA4DB6@yahoo.com>

Kshitij,

I use Ham Radio Deluxe ver. 6.29.355. It was simply plug in the USB cable, select 9100 and I was connected. Make sure you use an adequate computer if you go the HRD route as all the modules you will ever need are built into the suite and require more resources than some of the other ponderous packages. 
I originally made the mistake of using the old version 5.X and had some odd problems with the 9100. Ever since I installed the latest version it is been trouble free, fingers crossed.

Cheers,

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 7, 2015, at 1:57 AM, kshitij sandeep <kshitij14395 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Hey,

I have recently purchased an ICOM 9100 for the purposes of a educational satellite project.
I require the radio to uplink telecommands and downlink payload data and telemetry in FSK and OOK type modulation.
Any help regarding the interfacing of PC to the Radio for the same purpose would be deeply appreciated.

Thank you
Kshitij 
_______________________________________________
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From dwarnberg at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 13:42:30 2015
From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (dwarnberg)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:42:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Interfacing ICOM 9100 with PC
Message-ID: <b1pilnqkm5mihw8u63q6ckel.1433684550429@email.android.com>


    
Couple suggestions.. 1) short USB cable ?2) I could not get hrd to control radio correctly for liner inverting sats, check out SatPC32. ?3) lots of options for data, look at dire wolf or packet engine pro... one gotcha, 9600 baud packets must go through the data port on rear of radio, USB will not work...
Hope this helps
David, KK4QOE


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S

-------- Original message --------
From: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
Date: 06/07/2015  9:03 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: kshitij sandeep <kshitij14395 at yahoo.co.in> 
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Interfacing ICOM 9100 with PC 

Kshitij,

I use Ham Radio Deluxe ver. 6.29.355. It was simply plug in the USB cable, select 9100 and I was connected. Make sure you use an adequate computer if you go the HRD route as all the modules you will ever need are built into the suite and require more resources than some of the other ponderous packages. 
I originally made the mistake of using the old version 5.X and had some odd problems with the 9100. Ever since I installed the latest version it is been trouble free, fingers crossed.

Cheers,

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 7, 2015, at 1:57 AM, kshitij sandeep <kshitij14395 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Hey,

I have recently purchased an ICOM 9100 for the purposes of a educational satellite project.
I require the radio to uplink telecommands and downlink payload data and telemetry in FSK and OOK type modulation.
Any help regarding the interfacing of PC to the Radio for the same purpose would be deeply appreciated.

Thank you
Kshitij 
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 16:46:09 2015
From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com (Thomas Doyle)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 11:46:09 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for someone who is Intelligent, Ambitious,
	Not Too Old, and Dedicated.
Message-ID: <CAHnRQRLY1R1PJhYJXq8CU1Dg9f53xf+X-qP83CpA_JrpbMFTPA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The fact that you opened this message means you are all of the things
mentioned in the subject line and probably even good looking.

This fellow has come up with what I believe is the first really good
portable rotor controller (even better than mine !). He is planning on
releasing the plans to the public. Fabrication was done with a 3D printer.
It is a work of art. It is not some pie in the sky all talk and no action
thing we are all used to hearing about.

http://www.mobypicture.com/user/MeltdownCore/view/18165109

Here is a clip from a recent email he sent to me.

There are many people out there that have 3d printers in these days. When i
>> designed the rotor i wanted to make sure that most parts come out the 3d
>> printer so all you have to do is to get some easy to get parts and start
>> building. I absolutely hate it when i want to build something and when i
>> check the partslist there are exotic parts that you only get from russia or
>> korea.
>>
>> I am sure that most "makers" have every part at home except the big ball
>> bearing.
>>
>
Perhaps there is someone or a group out there who would be interested in
taking this project on for possible sales that could benefit AMSAT.

F.A.Q.

Q: Have you seen the rotor article in QST ?
A: Yes and I believe this is much better.

Q: What about the AMSAT board ?
A: It appears that they *might* be open to marketing it as they do with the
LVB Tracker and pre-amp.

Q: Why don't you just leave us alone and do it yourself ?
A: I am old.

73 W9KE Tom Doyle

From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl  Sun Jun  7 20:03:05 2015
From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:03:05 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for someone who is Intelligent, Ambitious,
 Not Too Old, and Dedicated.
In-Reply-To: <CAHnRQRLY1R1PJhYJXq8CU1Dg9f53xf+X-qP83CpA_JrpbMFTPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHnRQRLY1R1PJhYJXq8CU1Dg9f53xf+X-qP83CpA_JrpbMFTPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150607200304.GA22802@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>

Quoting Thomas Doyle who wrote on Sun 2015-06-07 at 11:46:

> The fact that you opened this message means you are all of the things
> mentioned in the subject line and probably even good looking.

No, it was just the next message in my inbox.

But besides that bit of bad marketing:

> This fellow has come up with what I believe is the first really good
> portable rotor controller (even better than mine !). He is planning on
> releasing the plans to the public. Fabrication was done with a 3D printer.
> It is a work of art. It is not some pie in the sky all talk and no action
> thing we are all used to hearing about.
> 
> http://www.mobypicture.com/user/MeltdownCore/view/18165109

This looks good. This seems to be moving an Elk Antenna with little problem
with for a sat antenna 'high' speeds so it may move an Arrow Antenna or
even heavier stuff (given a good center of gravity) at 'normal' speeds with
little problem.

I must say it also looks more solid than SatNOGS, to be honest.
https://satnogs.org/

It will be in roughly the same 'market' : an antenna rotator that is not
too expensive, doable to build, can be controlled from tracking software
such as gpredict and isn't weather proof but can be set up on a dry day
on a tripod easily.

> Perhaps there is someone or a group out there who would be interested in
> taking this project on for possible sales that could benefit AMSAT.

There are people who can take the bill of materials, the stl files, the
software and can build it themselves. Or take the stl files to a 3D printer
service or makerspace.

There are people who want to buy the parts sorted with instructions and
will build it.

But there are lots of steps between 'it moves!!!' and 'it is something
someone else should be able to duplicate' and even more steps before
'someone can sell the parts and instructions for someone to rebuild it'.

Keep us posted!

                                       Koos van den Hout

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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 20:09:08 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:09:08 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lightsail Back On
In-Reply-To: <CAP7QzkOHnmbb-81N6X1bRW8dqOYA9JFd0BNTO0wXpERbBxea1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP7QzkOHnmbb-81N6X1bRW8dqOYA9JFd0BNTO0wXpERbBxea1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5574A4E4.1090500@verizon.net>

Light sail still transmitting. @12:45PDT Pacific pass.

Always easy copy with AGW-PE at 9600, when it is transmitting.
  I imagine the printable binary data is of little value, but here it is 
anyway.


KO6TZ    Bob

---------------------------------------
1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:45:29]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..

?A........???@?6=??Q@??0=?O?@?>.....? ??
<??k??..}-......?(............$'
?.? ? ? 
?

..........??i@hi`.i? i0?i..d ??i`?i?0???|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
........... at ..?@


1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:46:04]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A........?~?@??$=??Q@??W=?O?@???>?
<??9?
<????..?-......?(............(
?.? ? ? 
?

..........??l@?l?`l??l pl?d??lP%`l`$???|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
........... at ..?@


1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:46:19]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A........???@
.1=??Q@?
=?O?@???>J~D<tB???
?;????..?-......)............$(
?.? ? ? ? ..........??m??m?8m?pm?
` 
@d??m?

(hm?&.???|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
........... at ..?@


1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:46:49]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A.........?@?==??Q@[`=?O?@???>J~D<????
<??k??..?-....../)............)
?.? ? ? 
?

..........??n0Hn`?np`n``?.?d??n`#?nP!@???|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
........... at ..?@


1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:47:19]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A........?(?@??K=??Q@?=?O?@??>?
<??9?
<???..!.......S)............$)
?.? ? ? 
?

..........??o`?j???jP..o` a..d.??op$?oP(????|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
........... at ..?@


1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:47:34]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A........`??@?$=??Q@[`=?n?@??>J~D<....?
?;??k?..3.......c)............3)
?.? ? ? 
?

..........??o0hj???j?..o`*Xp .d.??j?..jp?????|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
........... at ..?@


1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:48:04]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A..........?@??
=??Q@? 
=?n?@?>?
<??9?
?;???#..^.......?)............*
?.? ? ? ? ..........??pp??k 


??k ??p?.q@Xd.??q+?p?:0???|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
........... at ..?@
1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:48:19]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A........

??@??5=??Q@?/=?M?@??>?
<?p:?
<....+..v.......?)............$*
?.? ? ? 
?

..........??k@??j???lPxq &q.d.??q %?qp&????|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
........... at ..?@


1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:48:34]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A.........Xy@??h=??Q@|_
=?.?@?#?>J~D<tB???
?;???8..?.......?).........
...3*
?.? ? ? 
? ..........??r.&Hr.

?r@
?q?%?p`. at d.??kp..k??????|
.'.(.2.+.*.).3.0.....m.t

c.h
?.].
}
#
}
.............?@


1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP <UI pid=CC [DAMA] [EAX25] Len=248 >[12:49:04]
IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP
UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220
..?A..?A.........?|@
`f=??Q@?? 
=?.?@?
?>J~D<??k??
?;??k?V..?.......?).........
...

+
?...........................??e??`e?? f.??e???e 

d.??fP??fP?8........................................................_G...>..?@


From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Sun Jun  7 20:12:54 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:12:54 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Report RX PSAT-1
Message-ID: <6E144120E05F4AF0A5F22FE25B336EE1@PC1>

Report RX: Sun, 7 Jun 2015    20:02 UTC


2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [17:02:06R]
T#660,829,350,124,126,406,00000000

LW8EXS, Pablo

Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina

From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 20:13:07 2015
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 20:13:07 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lightsail Back On
In-Reply-To: <5574A4E4.1090500@verizon.net>
References: <CAP7QzkOHnmbb-81N6X1bRW8dqOYA9JFd0BNTO0wXpERbBxea1Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<5574A4E4.1090500@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkO3kTMEWxse=GZ1AM1xuszwC8fXHZA5XwW5SUWR-dvwPw@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/7/15, KO6TZ     Bob <my.callsign at verizon.net> wrote:
> Light sail still transmitting. @12:45PDT Pacific pass.
>

<snip>

According to a post on the Seesat mailing list, the latest attempt to
deploy the sail has failed.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From daniel at destevez.net  Sun Jun  7 20:27:36 2015
From: daniel at destevez.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Daniel_Est=E9vez?=)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 22:27:36 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Doppler Science Project
In-Reply-To: <c601b0bd43da6e4af8af900b9a6bed76@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c601b0bd43da6e4af8af900b9a6bed76@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5574A938.80504@destevez.net>

El 07/06/15 a las 04:10, Robert Bruninga escribi?:
> Actually, on just one pass all you can get is a line of position relative
> to the satelites track,  But on two passes, then  you can have two lines
> of position and where they intersect is the stations position.

Dear Bob,

Could you elaborate on this? If I understood correctly, position
determination by means of Doppler measurements started with project
Transit. With good knowledge of the satellite TLE and an accurate clock,
a ground station could determine its position with good precision by
measuring the Doppler curve from the beacon of the satellite over a
couple of minutes or so. Indeed, two different frequencies were used to
try and compensate for ionospheric refraction.

I think that this would work similarly and given good TLEs for PSAT and
an NTP or GPS synchronized clock, it should be possible to locate ground
stations just by measuring several of their transmissions over just one
pass. Perhaps ionospheric effects on 10m are too high for this to work
with much precision, but at least some rough estimate could be obtained
(6 digit locator would be nice).

73,

Dani EA4GPZ.


From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Sun Jun  7 21:10:56 2015
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 23:10:56 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lightsail Back On
In-Reply-To: <CAP7QzkO3kTMEWxse=GZ1AM1xuszwC8fXHZA5XwW5SUWR-dvwPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP7QzkOHnmbb-81N6X1bRW8dqOYA9JFd0BNTO0wXpERbBxea1Q@mail.gmail.com>	<5574A4E4.1090500@verizon.net>
	<CAP7QzkO3kTMEWxse=GZ1AM1xuszwC8fXHZA5XwW5SUWR-dvwPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5574B360.7010804@xs4all.nl>


On the contrary: the sail was (at least partially) deployed during the pass
over the groundstation today around 19:45 UTC. If the deployment was fully
successful, the satellite may be expected to decay and burn up in the
atmosphere within three days.

73,
Nico PA0DLO


On 2015-06-07 22:13, B J wrote:
> On 6/7/15, KO6TZ     Bob <my.callsign at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Light sail still transmitting. @12:45PDT Pacific pass.
>>
> <snip>
>
> According to a post on the Seesat mailing list, the latest attempt to
> deploy the sail has failed.
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp  Mon Jun  8 00:06:51 2015
From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:06:51 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lightsail Back On
Message-ID: <0C2EC4202D1F4868AF5BA994C98CC67C@je9pel>

LightSail-A, ULTRASat7 90726
16:01-16:15 UTC, 7 Jun 2015, Ele 29 S-E-EN, 437.4345MHz 9600bps FSK

1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP-X <UI R Pid=CC Len=248> [01:06:13R]
  [IP] Fm 129.65.147.33 To 129.65.147.36 prot=UDP ttl=64 len=248
  [UDP] src_port:50000 dest_port:50800 len=228 data=220

1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP-X <UI R Pid=CC Len=248> [01:07:28R]
  [IP] Fm 129.65.147.33 To 129.65.147.36 prot=UDP ttl=64 len=248
  [UDP] src_port:50000 dest_port:50800 len=228 data=220

1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP-X <UI R Pid=CC Len=248> [01:07:58R]
  [IP] Fm 129.65.147.33 To 129.65.147.36 prot=UDP ttl=64 len=248
  [UDP] src_port:50000 dest_port:50800 len=228 data=220

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita


From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 13:09:14 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:09:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Pass
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYs5Ubs4zhb0jUjpZXQyUxEprmOZ-ZkA0het30fpxNKTjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
I tryed out the pass on APRS about 12:50 UTC today. Very very strong
satellite 57! Could not digepeat a packet for some reason. I think i was a
little confused about the paths, what are the paths for to and via? Im
using UISS. Got many frames of Telemetry this pass as well! Also bob you
should at PSAT to oscar.dcarr for recepetion reports. I noticed very few
people got digpeated... Also bob the frames that have all the numbers in
them, what do they mean, are the just noisy tlm frames? Also for all the
people out that wanted to know what their frame of telemetry means here you
go:

PSAT Beacon specification:

CALL beacon MODE NOF DET AGC VC IC TMP

Where:
CALLidentification of the beacon (callsign)beaconkeyword indicating
beginning of dataMODEA or B (A ? transmitter always on, B ? transmitter
turns on, if BPSK31 signal is present)NOFnumber of frame (0 ? 999)DETpercentage
of BPSK31 detection (0 ? 99%)AGCpercentage of AGC operation (0 ? 99%)VCsupply
voltage (10 mVolts)ICpower amplifier current (mAmps)TMPtemperature of PA
transistor (deg C)

The AGC measured voltage is highly nonlinearly dependent on the input
signal, morover the limiting values of measurement vary with temperature of
the chip and its supply voltage. Indicative only conversion equation was
computed as from 50Ohm generator to input of receiver Pin = 0.472xAGC-113.5
[dBm, %]

Example:

W3ADO-5 beacon B 044 03 24 540 198 +28

It means mode B active, frame number 044, BPSK31 03 %, AGC acting 24%,
supply voltage 5.40V, PA current 198mA ant temperature of the PA transistor
of +28?C.
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:47:54]
s#018259,0z200,jkIjkHjkGjkFikFikDikAhkahkbgkbgkcgkd

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:48:03]
T#651,842,074,130,132,415,00000000

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:49:26]
s#018260,0z200,dkdckebkeake0kf0kf0kf0kf0kf0jf0kg0kf

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:50:56]
s#018261,0z200,bkgbjgcjfgjfhjghjfhjfhifhifiifiifiif

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:51:06]
T#654,856,071,131,131,415,00000000

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:53:08]
T#656,855,071,131,130,415,00000000

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:54:09]
T#657,872,079,131,130,416,00000000

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:55:28]
s#018264,0z200,D0hD0hDAhDAgDBgCBgCCgCCgCCgCDgCDgBDg

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:57:00]
s#018265,0z200,BDgBDfBEfBEfBEfBEfBEfBEeBFeBFeCFeCFe

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:57:12]
T#660,865,092,131,129,415,00000000

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:58:12]
T#661,881,078,131,129,415,00000000

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:58:37]
s#018266,0z200,DFfDFfDGeEGfEGfEGfEGfFGfEFfFFeEFeFFe

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:59:13]
T#662,841,368,130,129,415,00000000

From quadpugh at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun  8 13:15:07 2015
From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh K5QXJ)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 08:15:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT
Message-ID: <0b1101d0a1ed$24a94ae0$6dfbe0a0$@net>

What mode was PSAT in yesterday AM?

 

 

 

 

 

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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 13:31:44 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:31:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Pass
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYs5Ubs4zhb0jUjpZXQyUxEprmOZ-ZkA0het30fpxNKTjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYs5Ubs4zhb0jUjpZXQyUxEprmOZ-ZkA0het30fpxNKTjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYunEsvkDniKoGisWiFcZUw4XSmAhi+A4Bh9dA9emHz8Mg@mail.gmail.com>

Forgot to add in and to correct some errors, the above telemetry decoding
format is for the PSK31 tlm only. But you can download a PSAT tlm decoder
off of DK3WN to decode both the aprs and psk31 telemetry.
73 KE8AKW

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
> I tryed out the pass on APRS about 12:50 UTC today. Very very strong
> satellite 57! Could not digepeat a packet for some reason. I think i was a
> little confused about the paths, what are the paths for to and via? Im
> using UISS. Got many frames of Telemetry this pass as well! Also bob you
> should at PSAT to oscar.dcarr for recepetion reports. I noticed very few
> people got digpeated... Also bob the frames that have all the numbers in
> them, what do they mean, are the just noisy tlm frames? Also for all the
> people out that wanted to know what their frame of telemetry means here you
> go:
>
> PSAT Beacon specification:
>
> CALL beacon MODE NOF DET AGC VC IC TMP
>
> Where:
> CALLidentification of the beacon (callsign)beaconkeyword indicating
> beginning of dataMODEA or B (A ? transmitter always on, B ? transmitter
> turns on, if BPSK31 signal is present)NOFnumber of frame (0 ? 999)DETpercentage
> of BPSK31 detection (0 ? 99%)AGCpercentage of AGC operation (0 ? 99%)VCsupply
> voltage (10 mVolts)ICpower amplifier current (mAmps)TMPtemperature of PA
> transistor (deg C)
>
> The AGC measured voltage is highly nonlinearly dependent on the input
> signal, morover the limiting values of measurement vary with temperature of
> the chip and its supply voltage. Indicative only conversion equation was
> computed as from 50Ohm generator to input of receiver Pin = 0.472xAGC-113.5
> [dBm, %]
>
> Example:
>
> W3ADO-5 beacon B 044 03 24 540 198 +28
>
> It means mode B active, frame number 044, BPSK31 03 %, AGC acting 24%,
> supply voltage 5.40V, PA current 198mA ant temperature of the PA transistor
> of +28?C.
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:47:54]
> s#018259,0z200,jkIjkHjkGjkFikFikDikAhkahkbgkbgkcgkd
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:48:03]
> T#651,842,074,130,132,415,00000000
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:49:26]
> s#018260,0z200,dkdckebkeake0kf0kf0kf0kf0kf0jf0kg0kf
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:50:56]
> s#018261,0z200,bkgbjgcjfgjfhjghjfhjfhifhifiifiifiif
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:51:06]
> T#654,856,071,131,131,415,00000000
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:53:08]
> T#656,855,071,131,130,415,00000000
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:54:09]
> T#657,872,079,131,130,416,00000000
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:55:28]
> s#018264,0z200,D0hD0hDAhDAgDBgCBgCCgCCgCCgCDgCDgBDg
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:57:00]
> s#018265,0z200,BDgBDfBEfBEfBEfBEfBEfBEeBFeBFeCFeCFe
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:57:12]
> T#660,865,092,131,129,415,00000000
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:58:12]
> T#661,881,078,131,129,415,00000000
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[08:58:37]
> s#018266,0z200,DFfDFfDGeEGfEGfEGfEGfFGfEFfFFeEFeFFe
>
> Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[08:59:13]
> T#662,841,368,130,129,415,00000000
>

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 13:43:28 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:43:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYtsMY15Z0QbkNBn5XPgunbTTZbZpHOU+ATRgPMoZ13D_Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Nick,
According to my telemetry the digipeater is ON, and according to bob the
digipeater and PSK transponder are both ON.
73 KE8AKW NICK

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 14:51:29 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 10:51:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Pass
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYu9UD3PNFgP2aFkkDc_ZY760z6p4cXYGH1k2xjRjOFChQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tryed the pass after the last one at 14:28 UTC over US, I managed to
digipeat sevreal packets through it, and heard quite a few people get
through as well, Sometimes its a challenge to get through it.. For some
reason I cannot hear the PSK31 very well, I mean im using a pre-amp and a
circular polarised antenna L/R, I was seeing bob said a yagi, will that
make a diffrence? I'd like to hear users and try to decode the PSK31 tlm
aswell. But anyways more telemetry :-)!

Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[10:28:23]
s#018329,0z200,DjBDjADj0Dj0DjaDjaDjaCjaCjbCjbCibBib
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[10:28:33]
T#750,842,071,130,132,416,00000000
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=38 >[10:29:06]
:BLN2USA  :See APRS.FI & 144.39 users
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[10:29:34]
T#751,843,071,130,131,416,00000000
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[10:29:53]
s#018330,0z200,BibBibBibAicAicAicAicAicAicAicAicAid
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[10:30:35]
T#752,845,070,130,131,416,00000000
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[10:36:40]
T#758,850,074,130,129,416,00000000
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[10:37:41]
T#759,869,074,130,129,416,00000000
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[10:37:42]
s#018335,0z200,FAfFAfGAfG0fG0fG0fGAfGAfGAeGAfGBeGBe
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=52 >[10:39:13]
s#018336,0z200,GBeGBeFCeFCeFDdFDdFDdFDcFDaEE0EE0FEA
Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=34 >[10:39:43]
T#761,877,071,130,129,415,00000000

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 16:19:26 2015
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:19:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeater reception 2015-06-08 1430 UTC
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPdqseAz5e+WTUWfFZkGFoGDq7YXvu48E2JK1ZA0uU3kA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all, I received PSAT for the first time today. I had just done an
SO-50 pass and saw that PSAT would be in range in about 30 minutes so
I stuck around to try and receive it. It seemed surprisingly strong
considering it is supposed to only be putting out 350 mw. I recorded
audio of the pass and just now tried to decode it with UZ7HO's
Soundmodem for Windows, which I have used to decode the ISS
digipeater. Unfortunately, I am only able to decode two packets out of
the numerous transmissions which, to me, seem strong enough to decode.
This is a problem I've had with the ISS as well but it never seemed
this bad. Are there some special settings I need to change in
Soundmodem to decode the packets from PSAT? For example, I only see
APRS packets, no satellite beacon data, shouldn't I see that too? Here
is what I got

1:Fm N3FCX To S9UT2R Via PSAT*,ARISS* <UI R Pid=F0 Len=25> [11:37:00R]
'g.7l #/]ANT TELE WAVE=

1:Fm K1WY To TQTU7U Via PSAT*,ARISS* <UI R Pid=F0 Len=28> [11:37:56R]
'dGvl -/]WEST HARTFORD CT=

(time stamps are wrong because I didn't decode it live)

Here is an mp3 of the audio recording if you want to try and decode it yourself.

http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/PSAT-2015-06-08-1430-Crossroads.mp3

John Brier, KG4AKV, FM05 (Raleigh/Cary, NC)

From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Mon Jun  8 17:01:36 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:01:36 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Report PSAT-1
Message-ID: <51B53E1EFEB44E91AA5F4C934C7038ED@PC1>

Jun 8, 2015 
16:34 UTC
145.825 fm 

2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS [13:34:25R] T#874,839,070,125,126,408,00000000

73s de LW8EXS 
Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina

From my.callsign at verizon.net  Mon Jun  8 18:13:19 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 11:13:19 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT  w/power
Message-ID: <5575DB3F.6060601@verizon.net>

I was able to digi many packets via PSAT on the 17:45u pass.

The satellite does not 'hear' very well.  I used 80w with great results.

The I-Gates were receiving and posting the digi data.

The only other station heard was a single packet from WA0D-11.


KO6TZ   Bob

From john at papays.com  Mon Jun  8 17:14:47 2015
From: john at papays.com (John Papay)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 13:14:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] N2COP featured on W5KUB.com Tuesday
Message-ID: <516147.52959.bm@smtp120.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Bill Morine, N2COP, will be the guest on the
W5KUB.com video broadcast this Tuesday evening,
June 9th at 8pm Central (0100utc Wednesday).

Those who chase grids will recognize the callsign
as he has been active from FM13, a rare east coast
grid, over the past 6 months or so.  He operates from
Bald Head Island and was the one who gave Doug,
KD8CAO, his last grid for the Gridmaster's Award for
working all 488 Continental USA grids on Satellite.

Hopefully he will be asked about his experience with
operating satellites, especially from FM13.

More info on W5KUB.com.
73,
John K8YSE


From skristof at etczone.com  Mon Jun  8 19:24:32 2015
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:24:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mirage KP-2 for 2m?
Message-ID: <CAJkFkuxRsku=rH4ZRPYDk=WNZ8cGYRfO0ivhsZPGxUuc=nFq5A@mail.gmail.com>

I believe I am digging up a recent thread, but I just decided that I need a
pre-amp.
Anyone have experience with the Mirage mast-mount preamps? What do folks
recommend? I will want one that is for 2 m and has an RF-sensed
 pass-through. Most likely to be putting about 25 watts through it for now.
Thanks!!

Steve AI9IN

From updwrb at bristor-assoc.com  Mon Jun  8 19:38:45 2015
From: updwrb at bristor-assoc.com (w4upd)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:38:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mirage KP-2 for 2m?
In-Reply-To: <CAJkFkuxRsku=rH4ZRPYDk=WNZ8cGYRfO0ivhsZPGxUuc=nFq5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkFkuxRsku=rH4ZRPYDk=WNZ8cGYRfO0ivhsZPGxUuc=nFq5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5575EF45.2010707@bristor-assoc.com>

I have both the mast mounted and in-shack 2 meter and 70cm versions. 
Normally they work well, but one word of caution, if you use them for 
full duplex satellites, best to get the older versions that are in an 
aluminum cast box. This reduces cross talk when transmitting on 70cm. 
The new versions are not shielded, at least the one I had and got rid of 
it. The new ones were in a plastic box, no shielding, and a simple 
stainless steel angle bracket for mounting. All the ones I presently 
have are the aluminum boxes. You might want to call MFJ and confirm the 
present day construction. Otherwise, I found them to work well and will 
operate with voltage sent up over the coax. Also, they can handle 160 watts.

Also, the newer external voltage box to supply the preamp are kind of 
hokey as well. They use to use a very nice square aluminum box, then 
went to a plastic box that suppose to sit on your table. However, the 
RG-8 or whatever coax makes this not very practical.

If not used for satellite full duplex or in simple single band 
operation, the units should work okay.

Reid, W4UPD


On 6/8/2015 3:24 PM, Steve Kristoff wrote:
> I believe I am digging up a recent thread, but I just decided that I need a
> pre-amp.
> Anyone have experience with the Mirage mast-mount preamps? What do folks
> recommend? I will want one that is for 2 m and has an RF-sensed
>   pass-through. Most likely to be putting about 25 watts through it for now.
> Thanks!!
>
> Steve AI9IN
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun  8 22:17:01 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:17:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions
In-Reply-To: <CAJJyj=aeQeSnmV=U7wHrH-yVAhfQSWcUxBykdPaB=MpHfOF=QQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJJyj=aeQeSnmV=U7wHrH-yVAhfQSWcUxBykdPaB=MpHfOF=QQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoqh++7dudtSG686Y_fG0B3Zh+RPWZK-LadAx7_Y09O5g@mail.gmail.com>

Mine arrived today for activating W1AW/3 in DC.

I had a ton of fun during that week - making 125 satellite QSOs and
somewhere around 1,000 HF QSOs from W3DQ's station here in DC. I've
never had the experience of calling CQ and having the world come back
to me after just a couple of calls. It was an experience I'll probably
only be able to replicate if I go on a DXpedition someday.

Thanks to the ARRL for the nice memento of that week!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad at gmail.com> wrote:
> Today I got a surprise in the mail.
> The ARRL sent me two commemorative medallions mounted in a plexiglass
> display which is engraved "NR0T was W1AW/MN"
>
> Very sharp looking addition to the shack.
> I worked only Satellite QSOs on both of the Minnesota weeks.
>
> It is a beautiful commemorative gift and caught me totally by surprised.
> Thank you ARRL!
>
> 73
> Rolf NR0T
> grid = EN34it
>
> Memeber of the following organizations:
> ARRL Life Memeber
> Minnesota Wireless Association
> Twin Cities DX Association
> AMSAT
> AMSAT-UK
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From nss at mwt.net  Mon Jun  8 22:57:52 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 17:57:52 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoqh++7dudtSG686Y_fG0B3Zh+RPWZK-LadAx7_Y09O5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJJyj=aeQeSnmV=U7wHrH-yVAhfQSWcUxBykdPaB=MpHfOF=QQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOoqh++7dudtSG686Y_fG0B3Zh+RPWZK-LadAx7_Y09O5g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55761DF0.8050705@mwt.net>

I got mine today too for activating Wisconsin.

But it's missing one of the small screws and acorn nuts.  Who can I 
contact to get them?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/8/2015 5:17 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Mine arrived today for activating W1AW/3 in DC.
>
> I had a ton of fun during that week - making 125 satellite QSOs and
> somewhere around 1,000 HF QSOs from W3DQ's station here in DC. I've
> never had the experience of calling CQ and having the world come back
> to me after just a couple of calls. It was an experience I'll probably
> only be able to replicate if I go on a DXpedition someday.
>
> Thanks to the ARRL for the nice memento of that week!
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Today I got a surprise in the mail.
>> The ARRL sent me two commemorative medallions mounted in a plexiglass
>> display which is engraved "NR0T was W1AW/MN"
>>
>> Very sharp looking addition to the shack.
>> I worked only Satellite QSOs on both of the Minnesota weeks.
>>
>> It is a beautiful commemorative gift and caught me totally by surprised.
>> Thank you ARRL!
>>
>> 73
>> Rolf NR0T
>> grid = EN34it
>>
>> Memeber of the following organizations:
>> ARRL Life Memeber
>> Minnesota Wireless Association
>> Twin Cities DX Association
>> AMSAT
>> AMSAT-UK
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 22:59:29 2015
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:59:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions
In-Reply-To: <55761DF0.8050705@mwt.net>
References: <CAJJyj=aeQeSnmV=U7wHrH-yVAhfQSWcUxBykdPaB=MpHfOF=QQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOoqh++7dudtSG686Y_fG0B3Zh+RPWZK-LadAx7_Y09O5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<55761DF0.8050705@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FceSd0-oVdeGC1sP5bpZH5GXkfqTEq_wt1QCnhs16miAw@mail.gmail.com>

Try the hardware store.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4

From nss at mwt.net  Mon Jun  8 23:00:40 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 18:00:40 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FceSd0-oVdeGC1sP5bpZH5GXkfqTEq_wt1QCnhs16miAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJJyj=aeQeSnmV=U7wHrH-yVAhfQSWcUxBykdPaB=MpHfOF=QQ@mail.gmail.com>	<CABzOSOoqh++7dudtSG686Y_fG0B3Zh+RPWZK-LadAx7_Y09O5g@mail.gmail.com>	<55761DF0.8050705@mwt.net>
	<CAEMY9FceSd0-oVdeGC1sP5bpZH5GXkfqTEq_wt1QCnhs16miAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55761E98.9010007@mwt.net>

Like thats gonna match,
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/8/2015 5:59 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
>
> Try the hardware store.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Samsung S4
>


From richard.siff at verizon.net  Tue Jun  9 12:16:14 2015
From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 08:16:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Report Chesapeake School Activities W4GBH K4AMG
Message-ID: <B3FA4D75CB6F48D6ABE8ECCD254BF952@RichardPC>

>From Great Bridge High School W4GBH K4AMG Club sponsored amateur radio activities and OSCAR Communications.

School class room hours did not align well.  We did make several contacts on SO 50 and listened to data  from the ISS and using Dash Board copied many frames from AO 73.

Our next scheduled OSCAR event will be Field Day.  Maybe next year we will find more passes as we will be working 2 electronics classes, and also possibly set up at the Chesapeake Center for Science and Technology - W4FOS.

In October we will sponsor the STEM activities at the Heritage and Waterway festival in Chesapeake.

From my.callsign at verizon.net  Tue Jun  9 17:52:29 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 10:52:29 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT APRS Packet contact
Message-ID: <557727DD.9010505@verizon.net>

I made my first confirmed APRS Packet contact via PSAT NO-84  with Jim 
N7NEV-6.

Thanks Jim.

KO6TZ   BOB



1:Fm N7NEV-6 To S3RSST Via PSAT,ARISS*,PSAT,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,DM43,JIM <UI 
pid=F0 Len=34 >[10:33:07]
`'Sxl -/]"7l}PSE APRS MSG ME 73=

1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=38 >[10:33:26]
:N7NEV-6  :BOB  Desert Hot Spg CA DM13

1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via PSAT,ARISS* <UI pid=F0 Len=38 >[10:33:28]
:N7NEV-6  :BOB  Desert Hot Spg CA DM13

1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=38 >[10:33:37]
:N7NEV-6  :BOB  Desert Hot Spg CA DM13

1:Fm N7NEV-6 To APK102 Via PSAT,ARISS*,PSAT,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,DM43,JIM <UI 
pid=F0 Len=18 >[10:33:42]
:KO6TZ    :73!{88

1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=16 >[10:33:43]
:N7NEV-6  :ack88

1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=23 >[10:33:48]
:BLN0QSLs :PSAT,N7NEV-6

1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via ARISS <UI pid=F0 Len=14 >[10:34:03]
:N7NEV-6  :QSL

1:Fm KO6TZ To APRS Via PSAT,ARISS* <UI pid=F0 Len=14 >[10:34:05]
:N7NEV-6  :QSL


From my.callsign at verizon.net  Wed Jun 10 17:56:04 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:56:04 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84/ PSK-31
Message-ID: <55787A34.3060901@verizon.net>

Jack / KC7MG,

You are my second PSK-31 contact via PSAT  NO-84.
17:22u pass 10 June 2015.

This satellite is a challenge, but workable.

Thanks.

BOB   KO6TZ

From ea4cyq at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 18:52:51 2015
From: ea4cyq at gmail.com (Juan Antonio)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:52:51 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-83 & NO-84 versus LOTW
Message-ID: <000a01d0a3ae$a7f654c0$f7e2fe40$@gmail.com>

Hello all!

How LOTW will name the new SATs, BRICSAT or NO-83 and PSAT or NO-84.

And How will see it on KEPS.

Anybody knows?

Juan Antonio
EA4CYQ


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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 10 18:56:28 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:56:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-83 & NO-84 versus LOTW
In-Reply-To: <000a01d0a3ae$a7f654c0$f7e2fe40$@gmail.com>
References: <000a01d0a3ae$a7f654c0$f7e2fe40$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrqmzXCY769kDWhJ9SM_Czgq2=Sj--Beqe8JwDz_TTXAg@mail.gmail.com>

LoTW will have NO-83 and NO-84. Someone will need to put a help ticket
in to alert them to add the satellites to the config file. I can do
that.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Juan Antonio <ea4cyq at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> How LOTW will name the new SATs, BRICSAT or NO-83 and PSAT or NO-84.
>
> And How will see it on KEPS.
>
> Anybody knows?
>
> Juan Antonio
> EA4CYQ
>
>
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 18:57:55 2015
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:57:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Panoramic tour of ISS - Columbus Module
Message-ID: <1940589687.990534.1433962675452.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Samantha Cristoforetti IZ0UDF worked on a project that shows the ISS in a new way: here's a sneak preview of the first module, Columbus.?
Can you spot amateur radio HAMTV transmitter ?
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/International_Space_Station/Highlights/International_Space_Station_panoramic_tour

The return to Earth of Samantha Cristoforetti IZ0UDF will be shown on NASA TV during Thursday, June 11. Amateur transmitters will be turned off during the day 
http://amsat-uk.org/2015/06/05/radio-ham-returns-to-earth/
The ISS launch of UK astronaut Tim Peake KG5BVI has been postponed until December 15, however, Andreas Mogensen KG5GCZ is still planned to fly on September 1, 2015.
Some of you may remember meeting Andreas at the 2009 AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium. This year event takes place July 24-26, booking details are at 
http://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/colloquium-2015/


73 Trevor M5AKA 
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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Thu Jun 11 07:04:35 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 01:04:35 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Montserrat operation
Message-ID: <CADJ3JMRxuwZwpydT2WJ3Q8sP_Ot-wc0xQShXbBoT_DS1keeOPQ@mail.gmail.com>

On the island.  Radios and antennas stuck in customs.  Poor internet.  Hope
to be on fo29 tomorrow evening.
Jim

From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jun 11 12:43:13 2015
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:43:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube at Goonhilly
Message-ID: <833908910.1797103.1434026593898.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Today's BBC TV News features Dr Chris Bridges 2E0OBC who was explaining about the FUNcube-1 CubeSat and FUNcube Dongle SDR at the Goonhilly Space Operations training event. Chris appears at 0:33 into the report.
Watch the BBC video at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33090284

The Generation of VLF Emissions by Meteors
http://amsat-uk.org/2015/06/09/the-generation-of-vlf-emissions-by-meteors/

This year's AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium takes place July 24-26, booking details are at http://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/colloquium-2015/


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From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun 11 18:55:54 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:55:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite in Los Alamitos needs voluntter?
Message-ID: <2704d3e5cff6db7920e079544b46e947@mail.gmail.com>

Is there any HAM operator near Los Alamitos, Ca that can help test the next
APRS Satellite being integrated there?



All we need is someone to configure a radio to RX on 144.39 on a good
outside antenna, and another radio to TX the audio on 145.825 (low power
into a dummy load) near the spacecraft.



This will provide some ?traffic? on the 144.825 channel (low power) to make
sure the spacecraft does not do anything weird when it begins to see user
packets.



I envision the volunteer to make a trip to the plant to set up this radio,
and then come get it later after testing is complete.



It will take two 2m radios and GOOD audio response so that packets do not
degrade as they are retransmitted on 145.825.



The trick will  be giving it a high enough receive antenna so that it can
hear plenty of source packets, and then to have the other TX on  low power
and into a dummy load placed near the spacecraft so that the 145.825
repeated packets don?t QRM the satellite channel outside the building.



Anyway, it is a challenge, but critical to making sure this APRS satellite
is flight ready?

Anyone feel up to contributing some time and effort to the next APRS
satellite?



Bob, WB4aPR

From kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 11 19:02:11 2015
From: kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?Q29yIFBE2FJLQw==?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:02:11 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Panoramic tour of ISS - Columbus Module with HAMTV
	tx!
Message-ID: <DUB124-W374F115B9F08A0C404175AC2BC0@phx.gbl>


Spotting the amateur radio HAMTV transmitter.
Blue box with the white stripes on the floor (hi!).

73s Cor PD0RKC

Trevor M5AKA wrote,

Samantha Cristoforetti IZ0UDF worked on a project that shows the ISS in a new way: here's a sneak preview of the first module, Columbus. 
Can you spot amateur radio HAMTV transmitter ?
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/International_Space_Station/Highlights/International_Space_Station_panoramic_tour

The return to Earth of Samantha Cristoforetti IZ0UDF will be shown on NASA TV during Thursday, June 11. Amateur transmitters will be turned off during the day 
http://amsat-uk.org/2015/06/05/radio-ham-returns-to-earth/
The ISS launch of UK astronaut Tim Peake KG5BVI has been postponed until December 15, however, Andreas Mogensen KG5GCZ is still planned to fly on September 1, 2015.
Some of you may remember meeting Andreas at the 2009 AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium. This year event takes place July 24-26, booking details are at 
http://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/colloquium-2015/


73 Trevor M5AKA  		 	   		  

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Thu Jun 11 23:24:22 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:24:22 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV
Message-ID: <557A18A6.9090404@coloradosatellite.com>

We finally got the crate of antennas out of customs today and have the 
sat station set up.  We expect to run the pass tomorrow that starts at 
1837UTC and probably the one after.
We will transmit on 145.925 and tune the passband for callers.

Jim



From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 12 00:22:00 2015
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 20:22:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV
In-Reply-To: <557A18A6.9090404@coloradosatellite.com>
References: <557A18A6.9090404@coloradosatellite.com>
Message-ID: <27919EDE-1F83-4AA0-B792-2318E0363778@yahoo.com>

Is it a secret or can we find out what you are talking about?

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 11, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Jim White <jim at coloradosatellite.com> wrote:

We finally got the crate of antennas out of customs today and have the sat station set up.  We expect to run the pass tomorrow that starts at 1837UTC and probably the one after.
We will transmit on 145.925 and tune the passband for callers.

Jim


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From k9jkm at comcast.net  Fri Jun 12 00:28:23 2015
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:28:23 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV
In-Reply-To: <27919EDE-1F83-4AA0-B792-2318E0363778@yahoo.com>
References: <557A18A6.9090404@coloradosatellite.com>
	<27919EDE-1F83-4AA0-B792-2318E0363778@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006601d0a4a6$b0ef8d00$12cea700$@net>

Hi Michael,

> Is it a secret or can we find out what you are talking about?

Background information (to this operational update) for satellite activation
from Montserrat can be found on the AMSAT Upcoming Satellite Operations web
page at:

http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3921

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org
AMSAT VP User Services



From clintbradford at mac.com  Fri Jun 12 08:15:56 2015
From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:15:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bill Pasternak, RIP
Message-ID: <pckx9gl1l91rxs0ic3aroir5.1434096956413@email.android.com>

Bill passed away yesterday. For decades he brought Amateur Radio Newsline to the world. His unwavering support of everything "amateur radio" will never be matched.

Clint Bradford K6LCS

From kontakt at sp3qfe.net  Thu Jun 11 21:47:01 2015
From: kontakt at sp3qfe.net (kontakt@sp3qfe.nazwa.pl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:47:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Panoramic tour of ISS - Columbus Module with HAMTV
 tx!
In-Reply-To: <DUB124-W374F115B9F08A0C404175AC2BC0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB124-W374F115B9F08A0C404175AC2BC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1270561261.213697.1434059221171.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox6.netart.com.pl>

Hello All,
 
We can see that HAM TV transmiter is turn on.
See for two green LEDs: POWER and RF
(compare plase with it: http://www.ariss-eu.org/columbus.htm)
 
73, Armand
 
 

> Dnia 11 czerwiec 2015 o 21:02 Cor PD?RKC <kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com> napisa?(a):
>
>
>
> Spotting the amateur radio HAMTV transmitter.
> Blue box with the white stripes on the floor (hi!).
>
> 73s Cor PD0RKC
>
> Trevor M5AKA wrote,
>
> Samantha Cristoforetti IZ0UDF worked on a project that shows the ISS in a new
> way: here's a sneak preview of the first module, Columbus.
> Can you spot amateur radio HAMTV transmitter ?
> http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/International_Space_Station/Highlights/International_Space_Station_panoramic_tour
>
> The return to Earth of Samantha Cristoforetti IZ0UDF will be shown on NASA TV
> during Thursday, June 11. Amateur transmitters will be turned off during the
> day
> http://amsat-uk.org/2015/06/05/radio-ham-returns-to-earth/
> The ISS launch of UK astronaut Tim Peake KG5BVI has been postponed until
> December 15, however, Andreas Mogensen KG5GCZ is still planned to fly on
> September 1, 2015.
> Some of you may remember meeting Andreas at the 2009 AMSAT-UK International
> Space Colloquium. This year event takes place July 24-26, booking details are
> at
> http://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/colloquium-2015/
>
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

---------------

PS. Gdy pod Twoim okiem kto? przeprowadzi swoj? pierwsz? ??czno?? w pa?mie
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http://ariss.pzk.org.pl/nagrody

Mentor ARISS-Europa
http://ariss.pzk.org.pl

Ambasador Programu miniSAT
http://www.minisat.pl

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SP3QFE SWL: SP3 27 235
(SN15QFE: 1.08 - 31.10.2008)
(SN1ARISS: 12.09 - 12.12.2011)
(SN2012GAM: 24.03 - 08.05.2012)

http://www.sp3qfe.net
http://www.sn2012gam.eu
http://ariss.pzk.org.pl
http://www.minisat.pl/

+48 513 226 830
Czas przygotowania tego listu to 4 min.
EoF

From les at highnoonfilm.com  Fri Jun 12 14:18:31 2015
From: les at highnoonfilm.com (Les Rayburn)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:18:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VB Audio Cable & Mixers
Message-ID: <557AEA37.7070001@highnoonfilm.com>

With many of us moving towards SDR based receivers, RDS decoders and 
loggers, etc. there is increased need to route signals using Virtual 
Audio Cables. Wanted to make everyone aware of a
free alternative to the more popular VAC application.

VB Cable is "donation-ware" and works great.

Their audio mixer is also a wonderful and visual GUI that makes 
complicated routing simpler for many since you can easily visualize the 
signal path. Give them a try!


-- 
73,


Les Rayburn, N1LF
Maylene, AL
EM63

Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle
Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA

============================== FM DX

Sony XDR-F1HD, Sangean HDT-1, Elad FDM-S2, AirSpy.
Denon TU-1500RD w/Ray Dees RDS Decoder,
FM6 Antenna with CM7777 Mast Pre-Amp, RG-11.

"Nothing but blues and Elvis and somebody else's
favorite song..."

AM DX
Elad FDM-S2, Wellbrook ALA1530+ Loop, Clifton Labs Active
Whip, Superloop. Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector


From les at highnoonfilm.com  Fri Jun 12 14:21:16 2015
From: les at highnoonfilm.com (Les Rayburn)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:21:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VB Audio Cable & Mixers
Message-ID: <557AEADC.5070704@highnoonfilm.com>

With many of us moving towards SDR based receivers, RDS decoders and 
loggers, etc. there is increased need to route signals using Virtual 
Audio Cables. Wanted to make everyone aware of a
free alternative to the more popular VAC application.

VB Cable is "donation-ware" and works great.

http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable

Their audio mixer is also a wonderful and visual GUI that makes 
complicated routing simpler for many since you can easily visualize the 
signal path. Give them a try!


-- 

73,<P>
<BR>

Les Rayburn, N1LF<BR>
Maylene, AL<BR>
EM63<BR>
<P>

Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle<BR>
Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA<P>

==============================
FM DX<P>
Sony XDR-F1HD, Sangean HDT-1, Elad FDM-S2, AirSpy.<BR>
Denon TU-1500RD w/Ray Dees RDS Decoder,<BR>
FM6 Antenna with CM7777 Mast Pre-Amp, RG-11.<P>

"Nothing but blues and Elvis and somebody else's<BR>
favorite song..."<P>

AM DX<BR>
Elad FDM-S2, Wellbrook ALA1530+ Loop, Clifton Labs Active<BR>
Whip, Superloop. Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector<P>





From bryan at kl7cn.net  Fri Jun 12 18:07:12 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:07:12 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] CN74 active on FO-29 at 2217Z
Message-ID: <BB25C9D9-DFB8-47CD-9111-0533AEFA5E92@kl7cn.net>

KL7CN/W7 will be active from CN74 on FO-29 on the 2217Z pass. Look for me at 435.840.

Sent from my iPhone

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Fri Jun 12 19:02:05 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:02:05 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV first contacts
Message-ID: <557B2CAD.2050205@coloradosatellite.com>

First contacts a few minutes ago from VP2MKV.

K8YSE
AA9LC
K3SZH
KO4MA
KB1PVH

Heard KB1RVT at the end of the pass but did not complete.

Please do not tune your uplink.  Just use 145.925 as your uplink and we 
will tune for you.  When stations slide around it makes it much harder 
to catch calls and wastes time.

We will be on the next pass, which is much better for us with less 
volcano blockage.

See QRZ.COM  VP2MKV for details of the operation.

Jim
WD0E operating
W0ETT as the human antenna rotor



From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Fri Jun 12 19:15:20 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:15:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV worked on FO-29
Message-ID: <6B298F48-D400-47CF-9453-AD6F84042925@mindspring.com>

Jim had a good signal, and worked right to his horizon. Uplink around .925.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Fri Jun 12 20:37:21 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:37:21 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite qso
In-Reply-To: <583926.22165.bm@smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <583926.22165.bm@smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <557B4301.1040806@coloradosatellite.com>

HI John,

Yes, you were the first.  As listed in order in the previous email.

That pass was mostly through the villa for the first half. Apparently 
the uplink was getting through it but the downlink was blocked.

Next pass will be in the clear once it clears the volcano after about 4 
minutes or so.

The only stations worked were listed in the previous email.

Sorry, we are are not going to take time to pass the grid.  Just a waste 
of time in my view.  We are in FK86vs, as posted on qrz.com / vp2mkv.

We are pleased to give out Montserrat to as many unique calls as 
possible.  We should be able to be on passes as listed on the qrz.com 
page for at least the next 4 days.  We got a late start because our 
crate of antennas, which we paid to have sent directly to the villa, had 
to be ransomed out of customs, which took two days and hours and hours 
of time, two inches of documents, a lot of explaining, along with money. 
But it's all good now with 6 HF antennas up and a big 6 meter beam.  
Made a few 6 meter contacts yesterday, nothing today.  Our 6 meter 
beacon board turned out not to be compatible with the keyer so we are 
not beaconing on 50.102 as previously advertised, but will be listening 
mostly on 50.125.  Hoping for Europe tomorrow morning.

HF has been noisy and weak signals until just the past few hours.

Jim


eOn 6/12/2015 1:26 PM, John Papay wrote:
> Tim,
> Thanks for getting on FO-29 from VP2M.  And thanks for
> letting everyone know where you would be transmitting.  It
> helped me find you since it was 29KHz up from the center
> on receive.  I heard Drew calling CQ near 850 at my AOS.
> When I found you up at 879 I thought he might have already
> worked you.  But then I heard him work you much later.
>
> I gave you a long call because I thought you might not know
> exactly where you were on receive.  I was strong into the bird
> but you weren't hearing me very well at first.  Later on you
> were hearing calls right away.  I heard you finish with KB1RVT
> at your LOS.  I do have a recording which I will post.  Did you
> work any South Americans?  Was I the first NA contact?
>
> The next pass should be very good for most of the US.  I will be
> calling you again but this time with K8YSE/7, my internet remotable
> station in Mesa Arizona.  It's a good idea to give your grid
> square on the exchange.  Although it is not rare, it's likely a
> new one for many who will be trying to work you.
>
> Thanks very much for making the effort.  A new country on the birds
> is a big deal.
>
> 73,
> John K8YSE
>
>
> John Papay
> john at papays.com
>


From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Fri Jun 12 20:43:09 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:43:09 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Second pass VP2MKV
Message-ID: <557B445D.1050906@coloradosatellite.com>

Second pass not as good as it should have been.  We weren't hearing as 
well as we should have.

N4ZQ
XE1MEX
WA4NVM
AA5AK

Tomorrow 1744 and 1925 passes

Jim

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Fri Jun 12 21:11:54 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:11:54 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] correction
Message-ID: <557B4B1A.7080405@coloradosatellite.com>

Correction after review of my scribbles,

AA5PK was the last station.

Jim

From jim at milnet.uk.net  Fri Jun 12 20:19:06 2015
From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:19:06 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] ] AO73 mode change
In-Reply-To: <555F9DB6.6020704@zoho.com>
References: <DD357FA95DBC4C89A3D19AAB4EF3BFED@allgood.local>	<55282E67.7020104@zoho.com>	<553AB7FC.9040508@zoho.com>	<5543FCD1.8040305@zoho.com>	<554DCF7F.6000206@zoho.com>	<5555C08F.9060506@zoho.com>
	<555F9DB6.6020704@zoho.com>
Message-ID: <557B3EBA.1070203@milnet.uk.net>

Hi All,

Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 2116 UTC) been 
commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to 
autonomous mode on Sunday pm.

Have FUN!

73

Jim G3WGM

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Fri Jun 12 21:23:37 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:23:37 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] CN74 active on FO-29 at 2217Z
In-Reply-To: <BB25C9D9-DFB8-47CD-9111-0533AEFA5E92@kl7cn.net>
References: <BB25C9D9-DFB8-47CD-9111-0533AEFA5E92@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <914BA641-A44D-462C-9918-1962AB959D14@kl7cn.net>

Have located the CN74/CN75 border and it is accessible. Will be on border at 2217Z. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 11:07, Bryan Green <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> 
> KL7CN/W7 will be active from CN74 on FO-29 on the 2217Z pass. Look for me at 435.840.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 12 22:23:37 2015
From: kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?Q29yIFBE2FJLQw==?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 00:23:37 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Panoramic tour of ISS - Columbus Module with HAMTV tx!
Message-ID: <DUB124-W1347EFF2EFC15DC21BB50BC2BB0@phx.gbl>


Another photo with the HAMTV transmitter visible at the left side near astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/18619237236/
You can download at highest resolution 4928 x 3280 pixels format right side (down) corner.
After zoom you can see the two green leds are glowing (for POWER and RF) same as Armand SP3QFE saw
on a previous panorama photo.

73s Cor PD0RKC

 		 	   		  

From vk3jed at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 23:14:05 2015
From: vk3jed at gmail.com (Tony Langdon)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:14:05 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] VB Audio Cable & Mixers
In-Reply-To: <557AEADC.5070704@highnoonfilm.com>
References: <557AEADC.5070704@highnoonfilm.com>
Message-ID: <557B67BD.3040107@gmail.com>

On 13/06/2015 12:21 AM, Les Rayburn wrote:
> With many of us moving towards SDR based receivers, RDS decoders and
> loggers, etc. there is increased need to route signals using Virtual
> Audio Cables. Wanted to make everyone aware of a
> free alternative to the more popular VAC application.
> 
> VB Cable is "donation-ware" and works great.

You get a single VBCable for free.  If you donate, you can get an
additional 2 virtual cables.  Well worth slipping them a few Euros for
the additional cables.
> 
> http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable
> 
> Their audio mixer is also a wonderful and visual GUI that makes
> complicated routing simpler for many since you can easily visualize the
> signal path. Give them a try!
> 
> 
I discovered their audio mixer last week, love it.

-- 
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

From vimone at alice.it  Sat Jun 13 10:36:05 2015
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:36:05 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] HalloKepler and New Satellites
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAALZEQd5sMdZHlR+SXDjiC3sBAAAAAA==@alice.it>

Hello to the list,
to keep accuracy my satellite keps, i am using HalloKepler,
but when I try to input the new Birds NO-83 and NO-84, by
their catalog numbers I get them Unknown.
Anybody can help me how to input them?
Thanks
Enzo

73's de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
Skype: ik8ozv8520




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From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Sat Jun 13 13:23:32 2015
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:23:32 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas neighborhood
Message-ID: <000001d0a5dc$27ffd450$77ff7cf0$@falautomation.com.br>

Hi

Very good idea from Miguel LU3EMB ;

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vesJ9ZTmwbI

 

73

 

PY5LF

Luciano Fabricio

Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm

http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF

 


From mjohns166 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 13 14:46:09 2015
From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 14:46:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Packet tutorial?
Message-ID: <419047784.2267255.1434206769387.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I ran a fully automated PacSat gateway with WiSP years ago, but have been away from satellites for several years until recently. The QTH, rigs and computers are all different now.

Looking at what information I can find about digital birds today, I find it full of references to software I barely remember or have never heard of, and it's all pretty confusing. Has anyone written a RECENT beginners tutorial about DIGITAL satellites? I don't need to learn how to track SO-50 with my HT, but I do need to know about configuring TNCs, virtual or otherwise.-- 
Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ
Decorah, Iowa USA EN43
----------------------------------------------- 
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, 
you would stay out and your dog would go in."   
  ---Mark Twain

From sats at pe1rdw.demon.nl  Sat Jun 13 15:32:19 2015
From: sats at pe1rdw.demon.nl (Andre)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:32:19 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Packet tutorial?
In-Reply-To: <419047784.2267255.1434206769387.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <419047784.2267255.1434206769387.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <557C4D03.2050508@pe1rdw.demon.nl>

Op 13-06-15 om 16:46 schreef Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB:
> I ran a fully automated PacSat gateway with WiSP years ago, but have been away from satellites for several years until recently. The QTH, rigs and computers are all different now.
> 
> Looking at what information I can find about digital birds today, I find it full of references to software I barely remember or have never heard of, and it's all pretty confusing. Has anyone written a RECENT beginners tutorial about DIGITAL satellites? I don't need to learn how to track SO-50 with my HT, but I do need to know about configuring TNCs, virtual or otherwise.-- 
> Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ
> Decorah, Iowa USA EN43

Not sure about complete beginners guides but because pretty much all
digital sats today (not counting telemetry only sats) are APRS style
unproto digipeating and not store and forward like it was years ago APRS
is a good starting point to look into.

One site you could have a look at is the APRS Sat page from WB4APR, it
is a bit messy because Bob likes to add info to the page rather then
completly rewrite as information gets updated.
http://www.aprs.org/iss-faq.html

Most people prefer to use UISS as the main software because it has been
designed specialy for the task.
http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/uiss.htm

For virtual TNC it is recomended to use UZ7HO soundmodem
http://uz7.ho.ua/packetradio.htm or direwolf
https://home.comcast.net/~wb2osz/site/

Both preform better then most hardware TNCs especialy older ones that
have started to drift in tones.

73 de Andre PE1RDW

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sat Jun 13 17:00:33 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:00:33 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 from CN84
Message-ID: <11F4F710-4EFA-41B4-BF29-9D1F9F182673@kl7cn.net>

Will be on AO-73 from CN84 at 17:39Z around 145.957.

Sent from my iPhone

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 17:10:19 2015
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:10:19 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas neighborhood
In-Reply-To: <000001d0a5dc$27ffd450$77ff7cf0$@falautomation.com.br>
References: <000001d0a5dc$27ffd450$77ff7cf0$@falautomation.com.br>
Message-ID: <557C63FB.60402@gmail.com>

I have a camera on my rotor also, but it's aimed out in the direction 
the antenna pointing.  The idea was to know when I was trying to hit 
AO-40 through a very large oak tree immediately behind the house, 
because that just wasn't going to happen.

He certainly has a much more dramatic view looking down from such a 
height.  The music helps too.  Does it bother the camera (or the antenna 
for that matter) having the camera on the antenna boom, among all the 
RF?  I mounted mine on the cross-arm, near the Elevation rotor.

It also seems like something is catching the antenna as it moved, but I 
can't tell what it is.  Cables look ok.

Greg  KO6TH


PY5LF wrote:
> Hi
>
> Very good idea from Miguel LU3EMB ;
>
>   
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vesJ9ZTmwbI
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>   
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> 73
>
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>
> PY5LF
>
> Luciano Fabricio
>
> Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm
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> http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF
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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Sat Jun 13 20:06:04 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 14:06:04 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV today
Message-ID: <557C8D2C.3060207@coloradosatellite.com>

1344 Z pass this morning we moved to the roof of the villa for a clear 
view east and had great sigs in and out of the sat, but there was no one 
else there.  I guess the foot print went up the middle of the Atlantic.

We shuffled operators around so we were on 6 meters and the sat at the 
same time. (Some good contacts on 6M, mostly 50.102 CW)

1525 Z pass
PV8DX
K4FEG
KB1RVT
KD8CAO
W4CVV
KF4YYL

We will not try the 2117Z 1 degree pass tonight.

Tomorrow we will have a headphone splitter in line so the antenna guy 
can listen and do a better job of staying with the bird.  Passes 
tomorrow 1831Z and 2017Z.

A pointer to an online tracking program that shows the sat footprint 
would be appreciated.

Weather continues very hot and windy.  85F and 85 pct humidity, 20 MPH 
with higher gusts.  Wish it cooled off at night like in Colo.

Jim



From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sat Jun 13 22:42:24 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:42:24 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] KL7CN on SO-50 from CN84 at 04:38Z
Message-ID: <DDB53D63-C9F2-4890-886E-16865F6FF41E@kl7cn.net>

Will be on SO-50 at 04:38Z from CN84. It's a late pass but the furthest east I could manage; hope to help our far-flung Eastern friends get a new grid 

Sent from my iPhone

From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Sat Jun 13 22:54:52 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:54:52 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] RX Telemetria PSAT
Message-ID: <38BEF9D0D7744337968279C9DBB55984@PC1>

13 Jun 2015    22:07 UTC

1:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [19:07:05R]
s#023520,0z200,000000000000000000000000000000000000

2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [19:07:05R]
s#023520,0z200,000000000000000000000000000000000000


73s - LW8EXS

Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina

From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Sat Jun 13 22:57:29 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:57:29 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] RX MENSSAGE
Message-ID: <0300AA42836749F889025E828F1D9775@PC1>

2015-06-08 21:40:24 ART: PCSAT-5>LW8EXS-6: Hello from Arizona USA

From mccardelm at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 02:37:51 2015
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:37:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-165 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CAM5+souDHmdTppS=8J7gB=61E0gOopFhWF98noZbpegUWibvfQ@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-165

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Dave Jordan's (AA4KN) article about Fox-1 Featured in July QST
* Amateur Radio Newsline's Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF Silent Key
* Free Education Webinars From NASA Educator Professional Development
* AMSAT-NA BoD Nominations Notice - Last Chance for June 15 Deadline
* AMSAT 2015 Field Day Announcement ? June 27-28
* Montserrat (FK86)  active on satellites June 10 ? June 18, 2015 -
  Update
* ARISS Announces Challenge Coin for Donation
* Twin Cubesat Mars Flyby Will Support NASA InSight Landing
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-165
ANS-165 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 165
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE June 14, 2015
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-165



Dave Jordan's (AA4KN) article about Fox-1 Featured in July QST

Dave Jordan AA4KN, writing on behalf of the Fox Team, has published
an article, "Fox-1: The New Era of Amateur Satellites" which will
appear in the July 2015 issue of QST. The article introduces the
CubeSate program, describes the Fox-1 class of CubeSats, outlines the
the student experiments and briefd on using Fox-1. The article is
eligible for the cover plaque award. Look for it on pages 43-45 of
the Jult QST.

[ANS Thanks the ARRL and QST for the above information]


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Amateur Radio Newsline's Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF Silent Key

The AMSAT News Service has received the sad news of the passing of
Amateur Radio Newsline's Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF. James Pastorfield,
KB7TBT, reported on Friday, June 12 on behalf of Amateur Radio
Newsline that Bill's key had gone silent.

Bill had been recently hospitalized; Skeeter Nash, N5ASH, reported
that, "Bill was in serious condition after being diagnosed with--as
he termed it--?a broken back.? I take this to mean he has fractured
at least one vertebrae. He is being treated for the pain associated
with such an injury, and thus is not able to write (type), nor can he
read for very long."

Nash continued, "Don Wilbanks, AE5DW and I discussed the long-term
future of the Amateur Radio Newsline, and what is needed to get it
back into production. The Newsline team is more committed than ever
to get production re-started as soon as possible.

Wilbanks wrote, "A dear friend has left us after a long struggle
with his health. Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, as our mutual friend Beau
Weaver, W6KHJ so eloquently says, has taken his light into another
room. Bill touched lives all over the world through amateur radio. He
was like a big brother, an uncle to me. He was my mentor. He was my
friend. Rest my friend. I'll see you again one day."

Bill was a friend to all a strong advocate to the AMSAT News Service
(ANS). He will be missed.

[ANS thanks Amateur Radio Newsline for the above information]


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Free Education Webinars From NASA Educator Professional Development

NASA Educator Professional Development is presenting a series of
free webinars open to all educators. Join NASA education specialists
to learn about activities, lesson plans, educator guides and
resources that bring NASA into your classroom. Registration is
required to participate. Simply click on the provided link to
register.

Eyes on the Solar System: Pluto
Audience: Pre-service, In-service, Home School and Informal
Educators of Grades 6-12
Event Date: June 16, 2015, at 5 p.m. EDT
"Eyes on the Solar System" is a 3-D environment full of real NASA
mission data. Explore the cosmos from your computer. Fly with NASA's
New Horizon spacecraft as it approaches Pluto and takes very first
close up pictures of the dwarf planet and its moons. Learn how to use
this free software and see the entire solar system moving in real
time.
Register online to participate. https://www.etouches.com/131330

ISS Across the Curriculum Series: Solar Energy for Space Exploration
Audience: Pre-service, In-service, Home School and Informal
Educators of Grades 5-8
Event Date: June 17, 2015, at 3 p.m. EDT
Solar Energy for Space Exploration is a series of activities
designed to introduce your students to the basics of electrical
circuits while using the development of space habitats as a thematic
backdrop. Updated online resources and adaptation of classroom
activities will be discussed.
Register online to participate. https://www.etouches.com/130151

NASA Engineering Design Process 101: An Introduction to Classroom
Application
Audience: Pre-service, In-service, Home School and Informal
Educators of Grades 4-8
Event Date: June 18, 2015, at 6 p.m. EDT
Learn more about the engineering design process and its application
to real-world problem solving. Explore NASA design challenges and
other NASA STEM classroom resources. Engineering design is a common
topic across each grade level in the Next Generation Science
Standards and an important concept in understanding the world around
us.
Register online to participate. https://www.etouches.com/130414

For a full schedule of upcoming NASA Educator Professional Development
webinars, visit http://www.txstate-epdc.net/events/.

Questions about this series of webinars should be directed to Steve
Culivan at Stephen.p.culivan at nasa.gov.

[ANS thanks NASA Education Express Message -- June 11, 2015 for the
above information]


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AMSAT-NA BoD Nominations Notice - Last Chance for June 15 Deadline

2015 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nomination petitions MUST ARRIVE no
later than JUNE 15th at the AMSAT-NA office.
If the nomination is a traditional written nomination, no other
action is required.

If it is other than this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional
written petition MUST BE RECEIVED at the AMSAT-NA office at the above
address within 7 days following the close of nominations on June
15th.

ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE
NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS.

Only one day left to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA
Board of Directors election. Four director?s terms expire this year:
Barry Baines, WD4ASW, Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, Mark Hammond, N8MH, and
Jerry Buxton, N0JY. In addition, up to two Alternates may be elected
for one year terms.

A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five
current individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA
member for Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee?s
name and call, and the nominating individual?s names, calls and
individual signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord
St, #304 Kensington, MD 20895-2526.

In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which
is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made
by electronic means. These include e-mail, Fax, or electronic image
of a petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to
MARTHA at AMSAT.ORG or Faxed to
(301) 822-4371.

[ANS thanks Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary for
the above information]


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AMSAT 2015 Field Day Announcement ? June 27-28

It?s that time of year again: Field Day! Each year the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL) sponsors Field Day as a ?picnic, a campout,
practice for emergencies, an informal contest and, most of all, FUN!?

The event takes place during a 24-hour period on the fourth weekend
of June. For 2015, the event takes place during a 27-hour period from
1800 UTC on Saturday June 27, through 2100 UTC on Sunday June 28,
Those who set up prior to 1800 UTC on June 27 can operate only 24
hours.

The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) promotes its own
version of Field Day for operation via the amateur satellites, held
concurrently with the ARRL event.

If you are considering ONLY the FM voice satellite SO-50 for your
AMSAT Field Day focus ? don?t ? unless you are simply hoping to make
one contact for the ARRL rules bonus points. The congestion on FM LEO
satellites was so intense in prior years that we must continue to
limit their use to one-QSO-per-FM-satellite. This includes the
International Space Station. You will be allowed one QSO if the ISS
is operating voice.

You will also be allowed one digital QSO with the ISS or any other
digital, non-store-and-forward, packet satellite (if operational).
Many good contacts can be made on the linear transponder satellites
including AO-73, FO-29, and AO-7. During Field Day the transponders
come alive like 20 meters on a weekend. The transponders on these
satellites will support multiple simultaneous SSB or CW contacts.

The 2015 AMSAT Field Day event is open to all Amateur Radio
operators. Amateurs are to use the exchange as specified in ARRL
rules for Field Day. The AMSAT competition is to encourage the use of
all amateur satellites, both analog and digital.

AMSAT Field Day information is also posted on the web at:
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=216

[ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director of Contests and
Awards, for the above information]


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Montserrat (FK86)  active on satellites June 10 ? June 18, 2015 -
Update

Jim White WD0E reports on the status of the Montserrat (FK86)
activation, "We finally got the crate of antennas out of customs
today and have the sat station set up...  We will transmit on 145.925
and tune the passband for callers."

Montserrat (FK86) ? Jim White, WD0E, will be active on satellites
from Gingerbread Hill, St. Peters, Montserrat (FK86) as part of the
VP2MKV team June 10 ? June 18, 2015. WD0E will attempt to post a list
of satellite QSOs daily on the AMSAT-BB. There will also be HF
activity and an entry in the ARRL June VHF Contest. QSL via N0KV and
LoTW. From WD0E: ?VP2MKV will operate FO-29 only on selected passes.
We will attempt the long hops to the edges of coverage if the
equipment performs well at low elevations and obstructions allow. We
will attempt to post passes we plan to work 24 hours in advance on
amsat-bb. The uplink frequency will be 145.925 and we will tune our
downlink for stations calling. The location is 16.776924N 62.214474W
in grid FK86vs. Equipment is an ICOM 910H and Arrow antenna. Uplink
power will be about 20W. Stations are asked to work us only once on
the satellite. If we respond with your call you are in the log.?
Tentative pass plan, from WD0E: ?We will attempt to be on the first
two FO-29 ascending node passes June 11 through 20.  If time allows
we may be on the third ascending node those days.  Those passes
happen in late morning to mid afternoon Montserrat time.  On those
passes we will look first for South America when the satellite is
South of us, then North America, then Europe during the short mutual
window.  If there are 2 meter or 6 meter terrestrial openings during
the VHF contest June 13 and 14 we will not be on satellite at those
times.?

[ANS thanks Jim WD0E for the above information]


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ARISS Announces Challenge Coin for Donation

Receive an ARISS Challenge Coin for a donation of  $100 or more

* ARISS is Amateur Radio on the International Space Station.

* Licensed hams contact the ISS via Amateur Radio voice,
  packet/APRS, SSTV, and digital TV.

* Students interview astronauts in space and learn about life in
  space, space research, and radio science.

* Hams on the ground experiment with space communications

* Amateur Radio supports NASA by providing ISS backup
  communications

* Your donations will help support continuing operations and Amateur
  Radio equipment upgrades on the ISS.

Go to www.amsat.org/ and click on ?Donate ARISS? to help keep
Amateur Radio on the ISS in orbit!

[ANS thanks ARISS for the above information]


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Twin Cubesat Mars Flyby Will Support NASA InSight Landing

When NASA launches its next mission on the journey to Mars - a
stationary lander in 2016 - the flight will include two CubeSats.
This will be the first time CubeSats have flown in deep space.  If
this flyby demonstration is successful, the technology will provide
NASA the ability to quickly transmit status information about the
main spacecraft after it lands on Mars.

The twin communications-relay CubeSats, being built by NASA's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena, California, constitute a
technology demonstration called Mars Cube One (MarCO).  CubeSats are
a class of spacecraft based on a standardized small size and modular
use of off-the-shelf technologies. Many have been made by university
students, and dozens have been launched into Earth orbit using extra
payload mass available on launches of larger spacecraft.

The basic CubeSat unit is a box roughly 4 inches (10 centimeters)
square. Larger CubeSats are multiples of that unit. MarCO's design is
a six-unit CubeSat - about the size of a briefcase -- with a stowed
size of about 14.4 inches (36.6 centimeters) by 9.5 inches (24.3
centimeters) by 4.6 inches (11.8 centimeters).

MarCO will launch in March 2016 from Vandenberg Air Force Base,
California on the same United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket as
NASA's Interior Exploration using Seismic Investigations, Geodesy and
Heat Transport (InSight) lander. Insight is NASA's first mission to
understand the interior structure of the Red Planet. MarCO will fly
by Mars while InSight is landing, in September 2016.

"MarCO is an experimental capability that has been added to the
InSight mission, but is not needed for mission success," said Jim
Green, director of NASA's planetary science division at the agency's
headquarters in Washington. "MarCO will fly independently to Mars."

During InSight's entry, descent and landing (EDL) operations on
Sept. 28, 2016, the lander will transmit information in the UHF radio
band to NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) flying overhead. MRO
will forward EDL information to Earth using a radio frequency in the
X band, but cannot simultaneously receive information over one band
while transmitting on another. Confirmation of a successful landing
could be received by the orbiter more than an hour before it's
relayed to Earth.

MarCO's radio is about softball-size and provides both UHF (receive
only) and X-band (receive and transmit) functions capable of
immediately relaying information received over UHF.

The two CubeSats will separate from the Atlas V booster after launch
and travel along their own trajectories to the Red Planet. After
release from the launch vehicle, MarCO's first challenges are to
deploy two radio antennas and two solar panels. The high-gain, X-band
antenna is a flat panel engineered to direct radio waves the way a
parabolic dish antenna does. MarCO will be navigated to Mars
independently of the InSight spacecraft, with its own course
adjustments on the way.

Ultimately, if the MarCO demonstration mission succeeds, it could
allow for a "bring-your-own" communications relay option for use by
future Mars missions in the critical few minutes between Martian
atmospheric entry and touchdown.

By verifying CubeSats are a viable technology for interplanetary
missions, and feasible on a short development timeline, this
technology demonstration could lead to many other applications to
explore and study our solar system.

JPL manages MarCO, InSight and MRO for NASA's Science Mission
Directorate in Washington. Technology suppliers for MarCO include:
Blue Canyon Technologies of Boulder, Colorado, for the attitude-
control system; VACCO Industries of South El Monte, California, for
the propulsion system; AstroDev of Ann Arbor, Michigan, for
electronics; MMA Design LLC, also of Boulder, for solar arrays; and
Tyvak Nano-Satellite Systems Inc., a Terran Orbital Company in San
Luis Obispo, California, for the CubeSat dispenser system.

For information about MarCO, visit:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/cubesat/missions/marco.php

For information about InSight, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/insight

Learn more about NASA's journey to Mars at:
http://www.nasa.gov/content/journey-to-mars-overview

[ANS thanks NASA Press Release 15-122, June 12, 2015 for the above
information]


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ARISS News

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-06-13  05:00 UTC

>From  2015-06-11 to 2015-07-24, there will be no US Operational
Segment (USOS) hams  on board ISS.  So any school contacts during
this period will be conducted  by the ARISS Russia  team.

Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.

Exp. 42/43 has returned to earth. Congratulations for the job well
done!
Terry Virts
Anton  Shkaplerov
Samantha Cristoforetti  IZ?UDF

[ANS thanks ARISS, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

Panoramic Tour of ISS

ESA astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti has been cataloguing her home
of six months to create panoramic images you can rotate and explore.
Each section of the Space Station required around 14 fisheye photos
stitched together.

Areas of interest can be clicked on for more information in another
browser window.

Eventually, the entire Station will be available to explore right
here on this page ? follow us to receive updates.
http://tinyurl.com/ANS165-ISSTour

Can you find the HAMTV transmitter on the floor?

[ANS Thanks European Space Agency for the above information]


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/EX

AMSAT User Services and the Editors of the AMSAT New Service pass on
our condolences to ANS Weekly Co-Editor Joe Spier K6WAO and his
family on the death of Joe's mother this week.

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
EMike McCardel, KC8YLD
kc8yld at amsat dot org

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sun Jun 14 04:21:07 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:21:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] KL7CN/W7 from CN74/CN75 in LotW
Message-ID: <B650C0DA-3B0E-40FC-A751-50CE241EC64C@kl7cn.net>

Hello, AMSAT-BB!

The following stations are in the log from yesterday's operations at the CN74/CN75 grid line. The QSOs are uploaded to LotW:

W0DHB
N8RO
W7LRD
AJ9K
K7ULS
KF7PCL -- heard you at the last!

73 to all!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sun Jun 14 04:22:40 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:22:40 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] KL7CN/W7 from CN74/CN75 in LotW
In-Reply-To: <B650C0DA-3B0E-40FC-A751-50CE241EC64C@kl7cn.net>
References: <B650C0DA-3B0E-40FC-A751-50CE241EC64C@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <FEA5B0D5-69EF-442D-BCE7-4CF5794AE2EF@kl7cn.net>

I forgot to add: I used KL7CN/W7 as the callsign -- in case your upload doesn't match at first.

On Jun 13, 2015, at 21:21, Bryan Green <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:

Hello, AMSAT-BB!

The following stations are in the log from yesterday's operations at the CN74/CN75 grid line. The QSOs are uploaded to LotW:

W0DHB
N8RO
W7LRD
AJ9K
K7ULS
KF7PCL -- heard you at the last!

73 to all!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN
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From pbaudino at formatnet.it  Sun Jun 14 07:17:15 2015
From: pbaudino at formatnet.it (Piero Baudino)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 09:17:15 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
Message-ID: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>

Dear AMSAT-BB members,

I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time  after a long illness.

At the moment I have no more details.

'73 de Piero IZ1ERR

  


From wmy at isac.gov.in  Sun Jun 14 10:26:32 2015
From: wmy at isac.gov.in (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS])
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:56:32 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
Message-ID: <20150614103857.2859C87FC@lansing182.amsat.org>

very sorry to hear about passing of OM.Domenico I8CVS. Our deepest
condolences to the bereaved family. He was one of our well wisher and a
true supporter for our HAMSAT VO-52 project. We pray for his Soul to Rest
In Peace. May the Almighty provide sufficient strength to his family
members to over come this terrible & tragic loss.

We miss you Dom.

Quoting Piero Baudino <pbaudino at formatnet.it>:

> Dear AMSAT-BB members,
>
> I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has
> passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time? after a long illness.
>
> At the moment I have no more details.
>
> '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
>
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From fabianomoser at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 12:52:28 2015
From: fabianomoser at gmail.com (Fabiano Moser)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:52:28 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
Message-ID: <CAM6o-mawQZjcHMUF98Hn==Vqgf8t5zHwp1OJh6iGbUqh9SDTHw@mail.gmail.com>

This is sad news :(

I had a pleasure to made several contacts with Mr. Domenico by the "birds"
and now he are close of them.
RIP my friend.

Fabiano Moser
CT7ABD

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Piero Baudino <pbaudino at formatnet.it>
wrote:

> Dear AMSAT-BB members,
>
> I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has
> passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time  after a long illness.
>
> At the moment I have no more details.
>
> '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From vimone at alice.it  Sun Jun 14 13:07:11 2015
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:07:11 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] TX/RX on PSAT
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAN1rAJvs2w9DoL8gVyI54WMBAAAAAA==@alice.it>

Please anybody can tell me which programs and how to set them to RX the PSAT
with the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus and TX with a Yaesu FT-920 Radio?????
I mean what to use to RX/TX????
Thanks
Enzo


73's de Enzo IK8OZV
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From kf5yxv at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 13:23:11 2015
From: kf5yxv at gmail.com (Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:23:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <CAM6o-mawQZjcHMUF98Hn==Vqgf8t5zHwp1OJh6iGbUqh9SDTHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
	<CAM6o-mawQZjcHMUF98Hn==Vqgf8t5zHwp1OJh6iGbUqh9SDTHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO3W2J1z+eURwhikDdxu9G54xm=_rEMfO-vbMG+EGdwXc74qvw@mail.gmail.com>

It is a very sad news!
Domenico was a very smart person and good ham radio friend. He helped me to
redesign and build  some projects including his super 432 MHz LNA. He has
been an inspiration in my career.

73!

Hector, CO6CBF/W5CBF
On Jun 14, 2015 7:52 AM, "Fabiano Moser" <fabianomoser at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is sad news :(
>
> I had a pleasure to made several contacts with Mr. Domenico by the "birds"
> and now he are close of them.
> RIP my friend.
>
> Fabiano Moser
> CT7ABD
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Piero Baudino <pbaudino at formatnet.it>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear AMSAT-BB members,
> >
> > I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has
> > passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time  after a long illness.
> >
> > At the moment I have no more details.
> >
> > '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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From lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca  Sun Jun 14 15:24:48 2015
From: lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca (Luc Leblanc)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:24:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
Message-ID: <557D9CC0.10764.125263@lucleblanc6.videotron.ca>

On 14 Jun 2015 at 9:17, Piero Baudino wrote:

> Dear AMSAT-BB members,
> 
> I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time  after a long illness.
> 
> At the moment I have no more details.
> 
> '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
> 
>   
The last QSO i made with him was on FO-29 a hedge horizon QSO. Made a lot on AO-40 too, very 
technically inclined he was a very good source of information.

On this Youtube video you can see him on his home roof in Napoli.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlQEioURBOA

Himself on another video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3G1UJBpGZs


Browse with I8CVS on you tube there is quite a lot of video he made



Luc Leblanc VE2DWE








From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu  Sun Jun 14 17:05:34 2015
From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:05:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
Message-ID: <557DB45E.2050902@frcuba.co.cu>

Sorry to hear about the loss of Domenico I8CVS, he is now near the birds 
he help to make and use.

I think Piero or other hams close to the family must tell how much we 
appreciate him and the sadness of the ham-sat community.

We lose a friend & teacher.

73

El 14/06/15 a las 03:17, Piero Baudino escibi?:
> Dear AMSAT-BB members,
>
> I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has
> passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time  after a long illness.
>
> At the moment I have no more details.
>
> '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>

From f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr  Sun Jun 14 17:18:51 2015
From: f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr (f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:18:51 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <CAM6o-mawQZjcHMUF98Hn==Vqgf8t5zHwp1OJh6iGbUqh9SDTHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
	<CAM6o-mawQZjcHMUF98Hn==Vqgf8t5zHwp1OJh6iGbUqh9SDTHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79306D0D992C4D2E92FDA701AD1C1EC4@Claude1PC>

This is very sad news
I often contacted Domenico on satellite, it was a very competent Om
RIP dear Domenico


Claude F5GVA

-----Message d'origine----- 
From: Fabiano Moser
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 2:52 PM
Cc: amsat-bb
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK

This is sad news :(

I had a pleasure to made several contacts with Mr. Domenico by the "birds"
and now he are close of them.
RIP my friend.

Fabiano Moser
CT7ABD

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Piero Baudino <pbaudino at formatnet.it>
wrote:

> Dear AMSAT-BB members,
>
> I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has
> passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time  after a long illness.
>
> At the moment I have no more details.
>
> '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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expressed
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From mjohns166 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 14 18:07:10 2015
From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:07:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT strings?
Message-ID: <21643106.2644948.1434305230906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Is there a way to modify the command strings sent to the radio by CAT in SatPC32?

I'm struggling to get my IC-9100 working for digital packet satellites. Every time SatPC32 or SatPC32ISS update the 9100's frequencies for Doppler shift, they drop the rig out of the DATA mode. I need to find a way to put the DATA mode command into the string of commands sent with the update.

The Readme(Icom).txt help file mentions the files IcomName.SQF and IcomPar.SQF, but I do not find these anywhere among the SatPC32 files.-- 
Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ
Decorah, Iowa USA EN43
----------------------------------------------- 
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, 
you would stay out and your dog would go in."   
  ---Mark Twain

From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Sun Jun 14 18:39:05 2015
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:39:05 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT strings?
In-Reply-To: <21643106.2644948.1434305230906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <21643106.2644948.1434305230906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AD77EBD444F94042B33699C8975848C4@AA5PKPC>

Those files are located in the Application Data/SatPC32 subdirectory.

Glenn
AA5PK

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:07 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT strings?

Is there a way to modify the command strings sent to the radio by CAT in SatPC32?

I'm struggling to get my IC-9100 working for digital packet satellites. Every time SatPC32 or SatPC32ISS update the 9100's 
frequencies for Doppler shift, they drop the rig out of the DATA mode. I need to find a way to put the DATA mode command into 
the string of commands sent with the update.

The Readme(Icom).txt help file mentions the files IcomName.SQF and IcomPar.SQF, but I do not find these anywhere among the 
SatPC32 files.-- 
Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ
Decorah, Iowa USA EN43
----------------------------------------------- 
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
you would stay out and your dog would go in."
  ---Mark Twain
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 18:42:41 2015
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:42:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT strings?
In-Reply-To: <21643106.2644948.1434305230906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <21643106.2644948.1434305230906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FeTF6rX9B5mXWYpbvdR+bm5yEpy6wSqDAxn+jH_W8nKbg@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

>From the "What's new" section on the Satpc32 website.

Starting with Vers. 12.8c

1. The CAT commands for the IC-9100 have been expanded. The program can
now activate the digital mode of the radio. The mode entry in Doppler.SQF
for this function is FMD.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4

From mjohns166 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 14 18:56:41 2015
From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:56:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT strings?
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FeTF6rX9B5mXWYpbvdR+bm5yEpy6wSqDAxn+jH_W8nKbg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMY9FeTF6rX9B5mXWYpbvdR+bm5yEpy6wSqDAxn+jH_W8nKbg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1147900879.2648390.1434308201286.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Ah! Thank you, Dave. Just what I needed. And I should have known that, but I think my brain is getting fried from struggling with this all weekend. Thanks again.?--?Mark D. Johns, K?MDJDecorah, Iowa USA EN43-----------------------------------------------?"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,?you would stay out and your dog would go in."???? ---Mark Twain
      From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
 To: Mark Johns <mjohns166 at yahoo.com>; Mark Johns <mjohns at luther.edu> 
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT strings?
   


Mark,From the "What's new" section on the Satpc32 website.
 
 Starting with Vers. 12.8c1. The CAT commands for the IC-9100 have been expanded. The program can? now activate the digital mode of the radio. The mode entry in Doppler.SQF for this function is FMD.Dave-KB1PVHSent from my Samsung S4

  

From f.grappi at tin.it  Sun Jun 14 19:02:52 2015
From: f.grappi at tin.it (Francesco Grappi)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:02:52 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] R:  I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
Message-ID: <2A3218330A1749AEA6EE22091231D421@MasterChecco>

Dear All,

We have all lost a great and sincere friend, always ready to help anyone who
needed with a pure ham spirit.
Rest in peace my friend.
My most sincere condolences to the family

Francesco IW4DVZ

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Per conto di Piero Baudino
Inviato: domenica 14 giugno 2015 9.17
A: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Oggetto: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK

Dear AMSAT-BB members,

I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has passed
away this morning at 6.00 Italy time  after a long illness.

At the moment I have no more details.

'73 de Piero IZ1ERR

  

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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Sun Jun 14 20:43:18 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:43:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV
Message-ID: <557DE766.7070707@coloradosatellite.com>

1831Z pass this afternoon

N8HM
KA4H

We scrambled to get on the second pass but there was only 3 minutes 
left. We heard a couple folks but it was too late to work them.

We will probably not be on tomorrow but should be on Tuesday, Weds, 
Thursday. Friday is packup day but we will try to be on.

Jim

From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 14 20:51:14 2015
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 20:51:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV today
Message-ID: <395408141.3192084.1434315074428.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

(sent this direct, but since no reply, assume my e-mail might have hit your spam filter)> A pointer to an online tracking program that shows the sat footprint would be appreciated.
I use this exclusively... http://www.n2yo.com/?s=24278
Heard you guys quite well on 1831z pass Sunday, but it was well into the pass and a short one. You didn't seem to have enough time to catch anyone calling. Then on the 2107z pass, can't tell if you were there or not for all of the stations constantly calling, ditting, sending CW and CQing right where you planned to be. It was like people revving their engines at a NASCAR race...

Will keep trying... hope you are able to continue efforts through the week, Jim. All your hard work is appreciated. Moreover, hope you are having a good time!
73 es GL!
Kevin N4UFO
?

From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 14 22:11:26 2015
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:11:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] e-mail blocking
In-Reply-To: <557DECB2.1070309@big-river.net>
References: <557DECB2.1070309@big-river.net>
Message-ID: <657305167.3242659.1434319886384.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

On 6/14/2015 3:51 PM, Kevin M via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> (sent this direct, but since no reply, assume my e-mail might have hit your spam filter)>
------

On 6/14/2015 John Becker W0JAB wrote: ?
Kevin,
Many many people block direct mail from web based service such as YAHOO, 
HOTMAIL including myself. Really reduces spam by some 96%

John


-----

Well, thanks for telling me this, John, but believe me, ever since my first computer tech job in 1983 installing CP/M machines for businesses, I've been aware that if there is a way to convince people to screw up a perfectly good computer system, it will be found. Blocking a group of e-mail addresses as a whole doesn't personally seem like a very good idea to me as that way there are a whole lot of people who can't get in touch with me. Instead I just prefer to give out my e-mail judiciously, choose not to forward 'those' types of messages and trust my spam filter... I have almost no spam. On the order of maybe 20 messages a week, if that.

Now, I would have replied to you directly to say all this, but since you have said that you have blocked my e-mails domain, I know you would never receive it. (I guess it can be handy for getting in the last word!) But I beg the indulgence of the list to forgive me this one instance of it's use, because I just felt a deep need to share the humor that arose from the irony of exactly how I discovered your incoming message....
That being, apparently Yahoo feels the same way about you as you do about them since I found your message in my Yahoo spam folder. =^)


73, Kevin N4UFO

   

From w7lrd at comcast.net  Sun Jun 14 22:53:45 2015
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:53:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
Message-ID: <1393418928.30038788.1434322425603.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>

I have of folder in my email called "Domenico". It contains many exchanges over the years I have had with Domenico, as well as many of his posts to the bb. He taught me a lot for which I am grateful. RIP my friend. 
73 Bob W7LRD 
Seattle 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Piero Baudino" <pbaudino at formatnet.it> 
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:17:15 AM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK 

Dear AMSAT-BB members, 

I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time after a long illness. 

At the moment I have no more details. 

'73 de Piero IZ1ERR 



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From wageners at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 23:24:18 2015
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:24:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT strings?
In-Reply-To: <1147900879.2648390.1434308201286.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAEMY9FeTF6rX9B5mXWYpbvdR+bm5yEpy6wSqDAxn+jH_W8nKbg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1147900879.2648390.1434308201286.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHCB-1=jP7d323P0v8f3-4LQAnvPsBFwtuHnUN3TDn-OBw@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure Mark,

but what digital satellites are you referring to? For the APRS or PSK31 you
don't need or want the IC-9100 digital mode. You use the usb port for the
programs and set menu 56 data off mode to usb.

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> wrote:

> Ah! Thank you, Dave. Just what I needed. And I should have known that, but
> I think my brain is getting fried from struggling with this all weekend.
> Thanks again. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJDecorah, Iowa USA
> EN43----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor;
> if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in."
> ---Mark Twain
>       From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>  To: Mark Johns <mjohns166 at yahoo.com>; Mark Johns <mjohns at luther.edu>
> Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>  Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:42 PM
>  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT strings?
>
>
>
> Mark,From the "What's new" section on the Satpc32 website.
>
>  Starting with Vers. 12.8c1. The CAT commands for the IC-9100 have been
> expanded. The program can  now activate the digital mode of the radio. The
> mode entry in Doppler.SQF for this function is FMD.Dave-KB1PVHSent from my
> Samsung S4
>
>
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From Saguaroastro at cox.net  Mon Jun 15 02:24:50 2015
From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:24:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
Message-ID: <s7wxyk4bua8idq0op72c5d0w.1434335090331@email.android.com>

Pretty sure he had forgotten more than I learned or will ever learn.

Rick
K7TEJ

On June 14, 2015, at 15:53, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> wrote:

I have of folder in my email called "Domenico". It contains many exchanges over the years I have had with Domenico, as well as many of his posts to the bb. He taught me a lot for which I am grateful. RIP my friend. 
73 Bob W7LRD 
Seattle 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Piero Baudino" <pbaudino at formatnet.it> 
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:17:15 AM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK 

Dear AMSAT-BB members, 

I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time after a long illness. 

At the moment I have no more details. 

'73 de Piero IZ1ERR 



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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Mon Jun 15 02:49:53 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:49:53 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] KL7CN/W7 from CN84 in LotW
Message-ID: <3159C812-E655-414D-9D26-3E60378DD7A3@kl7cn.net>

Hello, AMSAT-BB!

The following stations are in the log from yesterday's operations in CN84. The QSOs are uploaded to LotW:

AO-73 at 17:40Z:

KC7MG -- well done!
K6FW
W0DHB
W7JPI -- Hi, Leo!

SO-50 at 04:40Z:

W5CBF
WA5KBH
NR0T
KK6OTJ
KA4H -- We made it, Carlton!
N6UK
N4UFO
W1PA -- The best distance for last! About 4080 km on SO-50! Very well done!

73 to all!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 03:14:08 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:14:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Mounted Preamps
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYvG1_3G2ZTgSndpzBswrLacsfCd4avCEkw4Ervyy7-2Jw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
I need two antenna mounted pre-amps, one for 70CM and one for 2M... We had
outside preamps but they got hit my lightning long ago, all we have are
preamps in the house. With that being said where you do you recemmend
buying a very good antenna mounted preamp? I cannot really find anything
anywhere that sells preamps anymore.

73 KE8AKW

From glennmaillist at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 15 03:23:22 2015
From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:23:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Mounted Preamps
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYvG1_3G2ZTgSndpzBswrLacsfCd4avCEkw4Ervyy7-2Jw@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYvG1_3G2ZTgSndpzBswrLacsfCd4avCEkw4Ervyy7-2Jw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20150614231703.02f4b308@mail.bellsouth.net>

Until you get your grounding issues corrected, you are wasting money 
on tower mounted preamps.

See MIL-HDBK-419 for information.

https://www.wbdg.org/ccb/FEDMIL/hdbk419a_vol1.pdf

https://www.wbdg.org/ccb/FEDMIL/hdbk419a_vol2.pdf

This is the two volumes.

Ensure that the tower is properly grounded to the service entrance ground.
Eight foot ground rods every 16 feet bonded, 18" below grade with #2 copper.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV
Lightning mitigation in a previous job.



At 11:14 PM 6/14/2015, Nicholas Mahr wrote:
>Hi All,
>I need two antenna mounted pre-amps, one for 70CM and one for 2M... We had
>outside preamps but they got hit my lightning long ago, all we have are
>preamps in the house. With that being said where you do you recemmend
>buying a very good antenna mounted preamp? I cannot really find anything
>anywhere that sells preamps anymore.
>
>73 KE8AKW
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)                      SBE ARRL  TAPR
"It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
of the Amateur that holds the license"
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Mon Jun 15 03:37:10 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:37:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Mounted Preamps
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYvG1_3G2ZTgSndpzBswrLacsfCd4avCEkw4Ervyy7-2Jw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYvG1_3G2ZTgSndpzBswrLacsfCd4avCEkw4Ervyy7-2Jw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B995F377-69EB-4B07-B4A5-86C32EADC6FF@mindspring.com>

Advanced Receiver Research and SSB Electronics both make fine mast mounted preamps.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 14, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I need two antenna mounted pre-amps, one for 70CM and one for 2M... We had
> outside preamps but they got hit my lightning long ago, all we have are
> preamps in the house. With that being said where you do you recemmend
> buying a very good antenna mounted preamp? I cannot really find anything
> anywhere that sells preamps anymore.
> 
> 73 KE8AKW
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From mhz4464 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 06:25:36 2015
From: mhz4464 at yahoo.com (Fer)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 06:25:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
Message-ID: <1822756058.1455288.1434349536326.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I too have a separate folder with all the excanges I had with Dom. He was in great help in my satellite and radio astronomy activity.I loose a friend and teacher.RIP dear Domenico

Fer ?IW1DTU 



     On Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:25 AM, Piero Baudino <pbaudino at formatnet.it> wrote:
   

 Dear AMSAT-BB members,

I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time? after a long illness.

At the moment I have no more details.

'73 de Piero IZ1ERR

? 

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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 06:38:50 2015
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:38:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <s7wxyk4bua8idq0op72c5d0w.1434335090331@email.android.com>
References: <s7wxyk4bua8idq0op72c5d0w.1434335090331@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <557E72FA.8060909@gmail.com>

Agreed.  I, too, was elmered by Domenico many times via this forum, and 
appreciated his calm and methodical way of bringing me along. We have 
lost a treasure.

My sincerest condolences to his family,

Greg  KO6TH


Richard Tejera wrote:
> Pretty sure he had forgotten more than I learned or will ever learn.
>
> Rick
> K7TEJ
>
> On June 14, 2015, at 15:53, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have of folder in my email called "Domenico". It contains many exchanges over the years I have had with Domenico, as well as many of his posts to the bb. He taught me a lot for which I am grateful. RIP my friend.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Seattle
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Piero Baudino" <pbaudino at formatnet.it>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:17:15 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
>
> Dear AMSAT-BB members,
>
> I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time after a long illness.
>
> At the moment I have no more details.
>
> '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Mon Jun 15 12:00:28 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:00:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV schedule change
Message-ID: <557EBE5C.8030008@coloradosatellite.com>

Schedule change.
We do expect to be on the two ascending passes this afternoon (June 
15).  Tomorrow and the next day are up in the air (pun?) due to schedule 
uncertainty.

Jim

From skristof at etczone.com  Mon Jun 15 12:13:52 2015
From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:13:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest SO-50 pass
Message-ID: <74FB394DC56E469A96C6456F5242F017@StevePC>

I was trying the most recent (about 1200 UTC around here) SO-50 pass. I don't mind not making a QSO as it's a busy place, like working a DX pileup. I am wondering if anyone is hearing me though. If it's something in my rig, I'd like to fix it. So, I'm requesting reports if you heard me on this morning's SO-50 pass. 
Thank you!

Steve Kristoff AI9IN
skristof at etczone.com


From vlfiscus at mcn.net  Mon Jun 15 16:17:42 2015
From: vlfiscus at mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:17:42 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <1393418928.30038788.1434322425603.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast. net>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
 <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20150615101512.00c21950@pop.earthlink.net>

At 10:53 PM 6/14/2015 +0000, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>I have of folder in my email called "Domenico". It contains many exchanges 
>over the years I have had with Domenico, as well as many of his posts to 
>the bb. He taught me a lot for which I am grateful. RIP my friend.
>73 Bob W7LRD


I second that.

He was a valuable resource and his contributions
will be missed.

KB7ADL


From howied231 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 15 14:15:47 2015
From: howied231 at hotmail.com (Howie DeFelice)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:15:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557E72FA.8060909@gmail.com>
References: <s7wxyk4bua8idq0op72c5d0w.1434335090331@email.android.com>,
	<557E72FA.8060909@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W722E6437A4457E69F45606E7B80@phx.gbl>

Domenico's passing is a great loss to AMSAT and Amateur radio. He always shared his knowledge freely and enthusiastically.  I will be miss him very much. 73 OM,

Howie AB2S 

> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:38:50 -0700
> From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com
> To: Saguaroastro at cox.net; w7lrd at comcast.net; pbaudino at formatnet.it
> CC: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
> 
> Agreed.  I, too, was elmered by Domenico many times via this forum, and 
> appreciated his calm and methodical way of bringing me along. We have 
> lost a treasure.
> 
> My sincerest condolences to his family,
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> 
> Richard Tejera wrote:
> > Pretty sure he had forgotten more than I learned or will ever learn.
> >
> > Rick
> > K7TEJ
> >
> > On June 14, 2015, at 15:53, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > I have of folder in my email called "Domenico". It contains many exchanges over the years I have had with Domenico, as well as many of his posts to the bb. He taught me a lot for which I am grateful. RIP my friend.
> > 73 Bob W7LRD
> > Seattle
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Piero Baudino" <pbaudino at formatnet.it>
> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:17:15 AM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
> >
> > Dear AMSAT-BB members,
> >
> > I just learned from the family that out dear friend Domenico I8CVS has passed away this morning at 6.00 Italy time after a long illness.
> >
> > At the moment I have no more details.
> >
> > '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From pushbiker2004 at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jun 15 15:46:41 2015
From: pushbiker2004 at yahoo.co.uk (paul robinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:46:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS RIP
Message-ID: <704015379.2146167.1434383201256.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

 Great? sadness!!! A great sat opp! will miss you Dom! Paul 2E1EUB

From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 15:51:08 2015
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:51:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Gulf Alpha sold
Message-ID: <2124071867.3809939.1434383468906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Was listening to a local chat on 6m and a guy was talking about his Gulf Alpha antenna... and that last week when he called to inquire about something, he was told that Gulf Alpha has been sold... Sure enough it's right there on Arrow antennas website:? http://www.arrowantennas.com/
Since Arrow makes a decent hand held sat antenna, I will be interested to see what they come up with for fixed installations. I'm hoping a certain AMSAT person might have a talk with them like he did another antenna company. You know who you are. =^D
73 all, Kevin N4UFO

From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 16:17:55 2015
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:17:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Gulf Alpha sold - Correction
Message-ID: <1815065204.3843641.1434385075011.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I should say that Gulf Alpha has sold their VHF, UHF and satellite antenna line to Arrow Antennas... not the entire company. Mea culpa.

From ewpereira at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 16:31:24 2015
From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:31:24 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] NanosatC-BR1
Message-ID: <CALNQy4_rZVPw=n-GmbJRjkzDOzEnfr-ds5HrvTEYmK=vxnj_8w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

The first Brazilian cubesat, NanosatC-BR1, is experiencing battery issues
for the last several months and it now seldom emits a beacon in CW. For
some time, Paulo PV8DX, was able to detect a beacon signal when the
satellite was over the Caribbean sea during daylight. But now, no more
signals have been detected.

We would like to request assistance from hams in the northern hemisphere to
see if NanosatC-BR1 is still transmitting any signals.

Any help will be much appreciated.

73, Edson PY2SDR

---
- We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together.
- N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se
trabalharmos juntos.

From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net  Mon Jun 15 16:58:13 2015
From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:58:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20150615101512.00c21950@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it> <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20150615101512.00c21950@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <557F0425.6070901@burlingtontelecom.net>

I will miss Dom. I think the last time we worked was back on AO-40. We 
were testing the S/k band system. Charlie, G3WDG has 2.4 GHz up and 24 
GHz down. Dom only had 2.4 GHz up and I only had 24 GHz down.

We all got on. Here's a clip of Dom calling on the S band uplink that I 
recorded on my 24 GHz system during the test.

http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net/images/i8cvs_ssb.wav

Good times!

Mike

On 6/15/2015 12:17 PM, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> At 10:53 PM 6/14/2015 +0000, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>> I have of folder in my email called "Domenico". It contains many
>> exchanges over the years I have had with Domenico, as well as many of
>> his posts to the bb. He taught me a lot for which I am grateful. RIP
>> my friend.
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
>
> I second that.
>
> He was a valuable resource and his contributions
> will be missed.
>
> KB7ADL
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

-- 

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"

From rw3xl at ya.ru  Mon Jun 15 17:38:50 2015
From: rw3xl at ya.ru (Blinov Igor)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:38:50 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
In-Reply-To: <557F0425.6070901@burlingtontelecom.net>
References: <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it> <557D2A7B.6090805@formatnet.it>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20150615101512.00c21950@pop.earthlink.net>
	<557F0425.6070901@burlingtontelecom.net>
Message-ID: <33491434389930@web6g.yandex.ru>

Dom was a Great Man, my condolences. 
--?
Igor, RW3XL

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Mon Jun 15 17:58:38 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:58:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV passes
Message-ID: <557F124E.1020407@coloradosatellite.com>

Great signals from the roof for the 1339 pass. 20MPH winds with higher 
gusts.  Radio working great, strong return signal, strong beacon.  No 
one heard but ourselves.

We will be on the 1521Z pass here which gets up to 71 degrees.

Jim



From tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 18:11:48 2015
From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com (Thomas Doyle)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:11:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS
Message-ID: <CAHnRQRL4oNC3wNXSutZr0LRXArjLgXiu0PjSTK5DvAJsd425Fw@mail.gmail.com>

Very sad to hear of his passing.
I always read all of his postings on the board.
He was a great source of information and inspiration.
He will be missed.

W9KE Tom Doyle

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Mon Jun 15 18:15:54 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:15:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV passes
In-Reply-To: <CAPovOweYehC5HFPvyMeW1t=KfAUshcCDKihkSm_aVWJVfM2NUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <557F124E.1020407@coloradosatellite.com>
	<CAPovOweYehC5HFPvyMeW1t=KfAUshcCDKihkSm_aVWJVfM2NUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <557F165A.1030406@coloradosatellite.com>

Yes, sorry.  1521 local, 1921Z.

Jim

On 6/15/2015 2:07 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Do you mean 1521 local time?  I'll be looking for you.  6 degree pass
> here in Texas.
>
> Thanks,
> Clayton
> W5PFG
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Jim White<jim at coloradosatellite.com>  wrote:
>> Great signals from the roof for the 1339 pass. 20MPH winds with higher
>> gusts.  Radio working great, strong return signal, strong beacon.  No one
>> heard but ourselves.
>>
>> We will be on the 1521Z pass here which gets up to 71 degrees.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
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From mikesprenger at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 18:28:10 2015
From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:28:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV passes
In-Reply-To: <557F165A.1030406@coloradosatellite.com>
References: <557F124E.1020407@coloradosatellite.com>
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	<557F165A.1030406@coloradosatellite.com>
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See you then from Tampa de W4UOO

Will break the monotony :)

Thanks,
Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Jim White <jim at coloradosatellite.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, sorry.  1521 local, 1921Z.
> 
> Jim
> 
>> On 6/15/2015 2:07 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote:
>> Jim,
>> 
>> Do you mean 1521 local time?  I'll be looking for you.  6 degree pass
>> here in Texas.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Clayton
>> W5PFG
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Jim White<jim at coloradosatellite.com>  wrote:
>>> Great signals from the roof for the 1339 pass. 20MPH winds with higher
>>> gusts.  Radio working great, strong return signal, strong beacon.  No one
>>> heard but ourselves.
>>> 
>>> We will be on the 1521Z pass here which gets up to 71 degrees.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> 
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From PeteW2JV at verizon.net  Mon Jun 15 18:32:47 2015
From: PeteW2JV at verizon.net (W2JV)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:32:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS-SK
In-Reply-To: <CAHnRQRL4oNC3wNXSutZr0LRXArjLgXiu0PjSTK5DvAJsd425Fw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHnRQRL4oNC3wNXSutZr0LRXArjLgXiu0PjSTK5DvAJsd425Fw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAB5E3B4F10148C8A5FE05E77546854C@PeterPC>

Domenico always responded to requests for assistance, I recall having an 
issues with my Yaesu rotator, he gave me a list of values to check, I will 
miss him.

W2JV Peter



From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jun 15 19:31:08 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:31:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite FCC Frequency and spacecraft licensing process?
Message-ID: <8aa7f484ebc534b47f9a851e09dbe5bb@mail.gmail.com>

Satellite Builders,



Is this how Frequency coordination and Satellite Licensing is supposed to
work (for a 100% amateur payload)?



1)      We obtained IARU coordination letters for our spacecraft

2)      We filled out the ODAR report

3)      We filled out the SPACECAP nightmare

4)      We submitted to the FCC



We never got any response.  (Never have as far as I can remember going back
5 satellites back to 2001)?  But then we have not done one since 2006 until
this last one, and with the more formal steps 1,2,3 above, assumed it was
more formal now.



So, as we prepare to build our Next satellite, IS THIS THE PROCESS?  IE,
The last step is simply a ?notification? and if there is *no* response,
then we assume we are legal?



I know better than to just knock on FCC doors and **ask** anyone that
responds, ?is this OK?.  Because the bureaucratic response is always NO
until you can prove otherwise.  We did what we were supposed to do.



So is that it?  How do I prove it to the Launch Provider?  All we have is
the IARU coordination letter (plus what we submitted)?



Just curious if this is the normal process.



Bob, WB4APR

From andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jun 15 19:29:51 2015
From: andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:29:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Domenico I8CVS SK
Message-ID: <353338968.2419622.1434396591577.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Like many others I saddened by the loss of Domenico, who was a source of inspiration, and who now is encountering his own cosmic journey.
andy G0SFJ

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Mon Jun 15 19:53:33 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:53:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV 1921 Z pass
Message-ID: <557F2D3D.7060008@coloradosatellite.com>

Good pass.  Thanks for everyone's patience.  Max 71 degree EL here made 
for strong signals.  Ken the human rotator is getting the hang of it.

Following worked:
N4UFO
K3SV
KE8AEW
KE8AKW
KC9ELU
WL9I
W5PFG
AC2RA
W5CBF
NC0RA
NJ1H
W3KXR
WI9I
WN9Q
WA5KBH

Thanks also to everyone for clear enunciation of their phonetics. Wish I 
could say the same on HF (4,582 contacts so far).

We are going to try the 2111Z pass here.  It only gets 1.7 degrees high 
at 262 AZ at 2114Z but we are about 500' above the ocean and nothing in 
the way that direction.  Not sure who or what will be in the footprint 
then. . .
If we can just keep the papers, headsets, chair and antenna from blowing 
off the roof deck . . .   again.....

Jim



From grant at dzehr.com  Mon Jun 15 18:58:54 2015
From: grant at dzehr.com (Grant Zehr)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:58:54 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] I8CVS SK
Message-ID: <025e01d0a79d$53c83c40$fb58b4c0$@dzehr.com>

When I was first getting my AO-40 receiver working I remember having my dish
propped up on a lawn chair in the driveway, holding the feed and
down-converter in place and at the same time trying to tune my FT-847.  It
was looking like another evening of failure when suddenly, very clearly, I
heard Domenico signing I8CVS.  Later I had the chance to visit with him on
AO-40 and thank him for being on the satellite.

 

Domenico was a true gentleman and a great help to many others, including
myself.  His comments on any topic were always worth reading and
considering.  He will be missed by the entire amateur satellite community.

 

My sincerest condolences to his Family.  

 

Grant Zehr AA9LC


From mjohns166 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 20:09:08 2015
From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:09:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Mounted Preamps
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References: <CAGu+VYvG1_3G2ZTgSndpzBswrLacsfCd4avCEkw4Ervyy7-2Jw@mail.gmail.com>
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      From: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:14 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Mounted Preamps
   
Hi All,
I need two antenna mounted pre-amps, one for 70CM and one for 2M... We had
outside preamps but they got hit my lightning long ago, all we have are
preamps in the house. With that being said where you do you recemmend
buying a very good antenna mounted preamp? I cannot really find anything
anywhere that sells preamps anymore.

73 KE8AKW
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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Mon Jun 15 20:17:59 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:17:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tropo and FO-29
Message-ID: <557F32F7.1010709@coloradosatellite.com>

Apparently some folks were hearing us after our nominal LOS, I was still 
taking so Ken could zero in the antenna on the horizon.  We had stopped 
hearing the downlink at that point.  In that direction we are about 500' 
above the ocean with nothing but a steep slope down then water all the 
way to Spain.  I'm wondering if there was some tropo on VHF that kept us 
in it for another minute or so, but the UHF fell off when it went over 
the water horizon.

Anyone ever experience anything like that?

We have certainly seen 6 meter tropo around the islands here this week - 
all the way up to Puerto Rico and Haiti.

Jim

From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 20:20:45 2015
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:20:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tropo and FO-29
In-Reply-To: <557F32F7.1010709@coloradosatellite.com>
References: <557F32F7.1010709@coloradosatellite.com>
Message-ID: <CAPovOwf6GFbb-+QYdykiar71MTNv56_6ET3XRd=3RvXC3koRzw@mail.gmail.com>

I was hearing you guys saying "5,4,3,2,1" until SatPC32 showed FK86 at
-2 degrees elevation.  I didn't have your six digit locator entered so
there is a margin of error.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Jim White <jim at coloradosatellite.com> wrote:
> Apparently some folks were hearing us after our nominal LOS, I was still
> taking so Ken could zero in the antenna on the horizon.  We had stopped
> hearing the downlink at that point.  In that direction we are about 500'
> above the ocean with nothing but a steep slope down then water all the way
> to Spain.  I'm wondering if there was some tropo on VHF that kept us in it
> for another minute or so, but the UHF fell off when it went over the water
> horizon.
>
> Anyone ever experience anything like that?
>
> We have certainly seen 6 meter tropo around the islands here this week - all
> the way up to Puerto Rico and Haiti.
>
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 15 20:28:26 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:28:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 73 on 73 Award #20 - IW0HLG
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrdR-ZfapTV-bL20rwJ=pW_mLgj4p4EXX6csq+c9Eb3BQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good afternoon,

Congratulations to Davide D'Aliesio, IW0HLG, for working 73 different
stations on AO-73 since September 1, 2014 and becoming the 20th
recipient of the 73 on 73 Award.

For more information on the award see
http://amsat-uk.org/funcube/73-on-73-award/

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Mon Jun 15 20:35:37 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:35:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tropo and FO-29
Message-ID: <19598808.1434400537929.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Yes! I live 1/2 mile or so from the open Gulf, and it's a clear shot from the tower in some azimuths. I have heard many satellites below the horizon by several degrees.

With the right conditions, I've worked Cuba, Mexico, Texas, and Puerto Rico on 2m SSB via tropo with the same antennas.

73, Drew KO4MA




-----Original Message-----
>From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jun 15, 2015 4:20 PM
>To: Jim White <jim at coloradosatellite.com>
>Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tropo and FO-29
>
>I was hearing you guys saying "5,4,3,2,1" until SatPC32 showed FK86 at
>-2 degrees elevation.  I didn't have your six digit locator entered so
>there is a margin of error.
>
>73
>Clayton
>W5PFG
>
>On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Jim White <jim at coloradosatellite.com> wrote:
>> Apparently some folks were hearing us after our nominal LOS, I was still
>> taking so Ken could zero in the antenna on the horizon.  We had stopped
>> hearing the downlink at that point.  In that direction we are about 500'
>> above the ocean with nothing but a steep slope down then water all the way
>> to Spain.  I'm wondering if there was some tropo on VHF that kept us in it
>> for another minute or so, but the UHF fell off when it went over the water
>> horizon.
>>
>> Anyone ever experience anything like that?
>>
>> We have certainly seen 6 meter tropo around the islands here this week - all
>> the way up to Puerto Rico and Haiti.
>>
>> Jim
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Mon Jun 15 20:50:34 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:50:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tropo and FO-29
Message-ID: <5955674.1434401435027.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



I also meant to add, it was very noticeable when I was operating as VP2EAG from Anguilla, both with the Arrow and HT on UO-14 (sobsob) and with the dish on AO-40 S-band. The first pass on AO-40 was from a hill on the island, with the 18" DSS dish upside down on the windshield/hood to get down to the 6 degree elevation the sat was to the west. I noticed a big signal bump approaching the horizon, and a bit past my predicted LOS, even on 2.4 GHz. Great memories of that, and working from neighboring islands on AO-27 and UO-14, and running dozens of EU stations at 3AM on U/S, even split, spreading them out over 20-30 kHz.

73, Drew KO4MA



From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Mon Jun 15 21:22:07 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:22:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2111Z from VP2MKV
Message-ID: <557F41FF.6040609@coloradosatellite.com>

Interesting propagation. We heard ourselves for about 3 or 4 minutes but 
there were deep fades about every 10 seconds.  We suspect 
constructive/destructive interference from the over-water path.
  But we never heard another signal.

We will not be on tomorrow but should be on Weds and Thursday.

Jim

From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Mon Jun 15 22:17:15 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:17:15 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry PSAT
Message-ID: <23E509FD4594435FA2039B30654EA5C4@PC1>


Jun 15   
15:02 UTC


2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=52> [12:02:16R]

s#025171,0z200,ig0ig0ihAihBhhChhChhDhiEhiFgiFgiFgiG



73s. LW8EXS

From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 23:12:44 2015
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:12:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tropo and FO-29
Message-ID: <482108764.4213168.1434409964844.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

 I also heard the '1, 2, 3, 4, 5' clearly, well after your LOS according to the tracker. W4UOO was trying to call you, I believe. I've also been noticing that I will hear FO-29 BEFORE AOS as well on some of these passes lately.
--

Not tropo, but talk about working over the horizon... ever work RS-12/13?!!!? When in Mode K (15m up and 10m down) you could work a pass from another continent! Biggest shock I ever had was calling CQ with the bird descending over North America (LEO) and getting a call from OK1DIG. =^D? There was an article in QST about an op who worked DXCC on RS-12/13 by using this method. Boy, I miss that bird.
73, Kevin N4UFO? (ex-AC5DK for any other RS-12/13 ops out there)

From info at dl9dak.de  Tue Jun 16 11:07:24 2015
From: info at dl9dak.de (Peter Kaminski)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:07:24 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] kepler data of AO-73 and Ham Radio Deluxe next pass info
Message-ID: <5580036C.8060400@dl9dak.de>

Hello,

today I received some telemetry frames of FUNcube-1 AO-73 but as I 
checked the pass in Ham Radio Deluxe Sat Tracking I saw that the next 
pass should be in abt. 10 min. later. So I manually reload the Kepler 
data from www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt but always 
there is a big difference between the real pass of AO-73 and the passes 
shown in HRD. I use the latest update of HRD (updating a few days ago).

So do anyone has the same problem? May be something happend in the HRD 
update? The URL of the kepler data is OK because I can finde the file on 
the amsat server via the link. Any idea? May be I should try another 
kepler data source?

regards
Peter
DL9DAK | N9DAK

-- 

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Vogt-Wells-Str. 5
22529 Hamburg
Germany

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email:  info at dl9dak.de
web:    www.dl9dak.de


From jeff_griffin at comcast.net  Tue Jun 16 11:54:34 2015
From: jeff_griffin at comcast.net (Jeff)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:54:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tropo and FO-29
In-Reply-To: <482108764.4213168.1434409964844.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <482108764.4213168.1434409964844.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F816C7EBC2D34744B1C3208781AA77C4@kb2m4PC>

I remember calling CQ on RS 12/13 and have to say listening on 2m so the 
JA's wouldn't call me back on 15m. The good old days...

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kevin M via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 7:12 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tropo and FO-29

I also heard the '1, 2, 3, 4, 5' clearly, well after your LOS according to 
the tracker. W4UOO was trying to call you, I believe. I've also been 
noticing that I will hear FO-29 BEFORE AOS as well on some of these passes 
lately.
--

Not tropo, but talk about working over the horizon... ever work RS-12/13?!!! 
When in Mode K (15m up and 10m down) you could work a pass from another 
continent! Biggest shock I ever had was calling CQ with the bird descending 
over North America (LEO) and getting a call from OK1DIG. =^D  There was an 
article in QST about an op who worked DXCC on RS-12/13 by using this method. 
Boy, I miss that bird.
73, Kevin N4UFO  (ex-AC5DK for any other RS-12/13 ops out there)
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From info at dl9dak.de  Tue Jun 16 17:32:30 2015
From: info at dl9dak.de (Peter Kaminski)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:32:30 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] kepler data of AO-73 and Ham Radio Deluxe next pass
 info
In-Reply-To: <14dfc736c34-7a3e-d039@webprd-m50.mail.aol.com>
References: <5580036C.8060400@dl9dak.de>
	<14dfc736c34-7a3e-d039@webprd-m50.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <55805DAE.5060608@dl9dak.de>

Hello David G0MRF,

thanks for reply. I fixed the problem. With the update of the latest HRD 
software my home location (stored in the digimode application part of 
HDR and not in the Sat application) was changed to 0/0  Deg. So now I 
put in the old position data in the home location back again and all 
works ...

regards
Peter

Am 16.06.2015 um 14:58 schrieb David G0MRF:
> Hi Peter.
> Keps will be fine as long as the date is within about 2 weeks.
> The most common error is 1 or 2 hours due to local time and UTC, but 
> 10 minutes is definitely not that.
> Another source of error is the computer clock. They can easily drift 
> 10 minutes if you have not set up time synchronisation via you 
> operating system.
> If in doubt, go to www.n2yo.com <http://www.n2yo.com> then select 
> AO-73 from the most tracked list and compare the location shown with HRD
> Thanks
> David  G0MRF
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Kaminski <info at dl9dak.de>
> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:16
> Subject: [amsat-bb] kepler data of AO-73 and Ham Radio Deluxe next 
> pass info
>
> Hello,
>
> today I received some telemetry frames of FUNcube-1 AO-73 but as I
>
> checked the pass in Ham Radio Deluxe Sat Tracking I saw that the next
> pass
> should be in abt. 10 min. later. So I manually reload the Kepler
> data from
> www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt  <http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt>  but always
> there is a big
> difference between the real pass of AO-73 and the passes
> shown in HRD. I use
> the latest update of HRD (updating a few days ago).
>
> So do anyone has the same
> problem? May be something happend in the HRD
> update? The URL of the kepler
> data is OK because I can finde the file on
> the amsat server via the link. Any
> idea? May be I should try another
> kepler data
> source?
>
> regards
> Peter
> DL9DAK | N9DAK
>
> -- 
>
> DL9DAK | N9DAK
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From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com  Tue Jun 16 17:38:38 2015
From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:38:38 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NanosatC-BR1
In-Reply-To: <CALNQy4_rZVPw=n-GmbJRjkzDOzEnfr-ds5HrvTEYmK=vxnj_8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALNQy4_rZVPw=n-GmbJRjkzDOzEnfr-ds5HrvTEYmK=vxnj_8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001201d0a85b$47e67400$d7b35c00$@mypbmail.com>

Just for info ...  For those who may answer Edson's request, NanosatC-BR1 KEP TLEs are currently in the AMSAT KEP distribution as "NANOSATCBR1".

Ray Hoad
WA5QGD

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Edson W. R. Pereira
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:31 AM
To: amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] NanosatC-BR1

Hello everyone,

The first Brazilian cubesat, NanosatC-BR1, is experiencing battery issues
for the last several months and it now seldom emits a beacon in CW. For
some time, Paulo PV8DX, was able to detect a beacon signal when the
satellite was over the Caribbean sea during daylight. But now, no more
signals have been detected.

We would like to request assistance from hams in the northern hemisphere to
see if NanosatC-BR1 is still transmitting any signals.

Any help will be much appreciated.

73, Edson PY2SDR

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From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 16 20:44:34 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:44:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrFSpvDAGiHbo3AuDf0xw5K8WRz2BjBvRjjryOQZyGs4w@mail.gmail.com>

Per a post on the AMSAT-F website, the EO-80 FM transponder was tested
today, works, and should be activated permanently in a few weeks.

The post also says that EO-79's linear transponder should be available
in a few weeks as well.

http://www.amsat-f.org/spip/spip.php?article120&lang=fr

Looking forward to it!

73,

Paul, N8HM

From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Tue Jun 16 21:33:48 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:33:48 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] RX PSAT-1
Message-ID: <18E45C22FFE442ED88A4DF85632A1770@PC1>


2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [18:26:54R]
T#511,869,069,125,124,402,00000000


2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=12> [18:27:20R]
new OLO=038

73s de LW8EXS

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue Jun 16 23:19:30 2015
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:19:30 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] My 6-7 June road trip, lots of miles & grids - report
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUeitYO3xK09R6T=J2X=jPg3SYhbAG_J=nr53GB-3BFA0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I'm a little tardy in sending this e-mail out, but wanted to post a report
on my road trip to northern Arizona and southern Utah on the weekend of 6-7
June. After over 1100 miles in just over two days, I had fun hosting an AMSAT
table at a hamfest, followed by a lot of driving and operating.

I made the 3-hour drive up to Show Low, in eastern Arizona the night before
the White Mountain Hamfest on 6 June. I drove through rain and some fog up
to Show Low, which made the morning a little cooler. A nice crowd showed up
for the half-day hamfest, and WD9EWK was on a couple of SO-50 passes followed
by an AO-73 pass during the morning. The hamfest was located in grid DM44xg,
near the Show Low city hall and the US-60/AZ-260 junction. By 11.30am (1830
UTC), the hamfest was wrapping up. This gave me about 2 hours to get to the
first post-hamfest stop of this road trip - the DM54bx/DM55ba grid boundary,
along old US-66 and I-40, about an hour north of the hamfest site.

The DM54bx/DM55ba grid boundary is a place I have worked from several times
in the past few years, most recently in June 2014 after the same hamfest. I
planned to work AO-7 and FO-29 from here, so I could get these two grids on
the air. The AO-7 pass came first, and I was able to make two SSB QSOs before
the satellite was forced from mode B to mode A (thanks KG5CCI & N4UFO!). It
is unfortunate that stations still insist on running lots of power when
working AO-7, in SSB and especially CW. FO-29 came by a few minutes later,
and that was better. Three more stations went in the log on that pass, then
it was time to hit the road again.

I had received requests to work from grid DM45 during this weekend, and I was
able to do that for the later AO-7 and FO-29 passes. I drove about
50 miles/80km west on I-40 to Winslow, near the southeast corner of grid
DM45. After making a stop at "the corner in Winslow, Arizona" for some
pictures, I drove east to the end of old US-66 and parked in front of an old
trading post to work AO-7 and FO-29 from here. These two passes were both
almost directly overhead for this location, and this time AO-7 stayed in mode
B for the entire pass. Five stations were logged on AO-7, and six more on
FO-29.

>From Winslow, I drove about 60 miles/100km west to Flagstaff for dinner and
fuel, before turning north on US-89 to Page and Lake Powell, at the
Arizona/Utah state line. For the drive between Flagstaff and Page, I stopped
at two points to work ISS passes. The first stop was north of Flagstaff,
still in grid DM45, around 0115 UTC. No QSOs were logged, although I saw
several stations on my TH-D72A's display. After that pass, I kept going north
on US-89 onto the Navajo Nation reservation. As the last glimmer of sunlight
was about to disappear from the western sky, I made another stop at the
US-89/US-89A junction near Page just before 0300 UTC. This was at grid
DM46ep, with a nice view to the west for this ISS pass. I exchanged APRS
messages with KK6RKY in northern California, saw a few other stations, then
went back onto US-89 to finish my drive to Page.

Once in Page, I stopped in a Wal-Mart parking lot along US-89 to work an
AO-73 pass just before 0400 UTC. This was in grid DM46gv, a few miles/km
south of Lake Powell, Glen Canyon Dam, and the Arizona/Utah state line.
Since it was getting late, and I needed to leave Page early the next morning,
I only worked one pass. Six in the log, and that ended my Saturday.

As the sun was rising Sunday (7 June) morning, I left Page to reach the
DM47xb/DM57ab grid boundary in southern Utah. This was a 130-mile/210km
drive, and even with two stops for caffeine on the way I made it to the
spot with about 30 minutes to spare. I had operated from this spot in
2009, on a county road southeast of US-163 in San Juan County. This area
is also on the Navajo Nation reservation, and north of Monument Valley.
After taking the obligatory photos of my station and GPS receiver, I was
ready to work an SO-50 pass followed by an AO-73 pass between 1510 and
1550 UTC.

Other than making another trip to this part of the country, I had heard from
Drew KO4MA that DM47 and DM57 were two of the three grids in this part of the
US he did not have confirmed via satellite. Others had also mentioned they
either needed one of these grids, or both of them as well. The SO-50 pass was
great for working stations from coast to coast. A total of 16 stations,
including KO4MA, were logged. The AO-73 pass around 1545 UTC was a very low
pass out there, with a maximum elevation of 4 degrees to the east. Despite
that, I logged QSOs with AC0RA and K4FEG.

Before the western SO-50 and AO-73 passes after 1700 UTC, I drove back to
US-163 and stopped at a spot with a great view to the south and Monument
Valley. I took lots of pictures out here, and some of those were sent out via
Twitter for those who were watching me that morning. After spending most of
the 1600 UTC hour sightseeing, I drove back to the DM47/DM57 boundary for the
last two passes I'd work out there. Six stations logged on SO-50, followed by
3 on AO-73, to wrap up the DM47/DM57 part of this road trip.

Another grid boundary I looked to work from on this trip was the DM56/DM57
boundary, a place I worked from in 2008. This is along the US-191 highway,
just north of the Arizona/Utah state line. It was about 75 miles/120km from
the DM47/DM57 boundary just off US-163 to the DM56ex/DM57ea boundary on
US-191. With a lunch stop along the way, I made it to the spot with about
20 minutes to spare. I planned to work two AO-7 passes and one FO-29 pass,
along with the obligatory grid-boundary photography, before making the drive
home (almost 6 hours!).

The first AO-7 pass around 1930 UTC was not too high, but high enough to be
able to hear myself for almost the entire pass. I logged only one QSO, with
John K8YSE, near my LOS. Then an hour or so of sightseeing up US-191 and
back, before the better AO-7 and FO-29 passes starting around 2125 UTC. The
two later passes were productive. I logged 7 QSOs on the AO-7 pass, and 10
QSOs on the FO-29 pass after that. When I was up here in 2008 and 2009, I
only worked FM passes. With SO-50 only passing by in the mornings, working
the SSB birds was mandatory on this trip up here.

When I wasn't trying to work the ISS passes, I left my TH-D72A squawking my
location as WD9EWK-9 on this trip. I did not use APRS when I was up there in
2008 or 2009, and I hoped that mountaintop digipeaters would hear me. A few
in Utah and Colorado did, and I was able to see myself later on aprs.fi. Some
areas were not covered, in particular the two grid boundaries I stopped at in
southern Utah, but the highways mostly had good coverage. I could use an app
on my mobile phone, but prefer to use APRS with RF. The mobile phone network
on the Navajo Nation was dramatically improved since 2009. I had high-speed
data access while I was out there, which let me send photos via Twitter and
see how well my APRS signals were making it to the Internet.

After the trip, I uploaded my log to Logbook of the World. Over half of my 89
QSOs from this trip have been confirmed via LOTW. This is nice to see! I am
also planning to print some QSL cards this weekend, to answer some QSL
requests that have landed at my PO box. Again, it's not necessary to send me
your QSL card or an SASE when you work me on my road trips. An e-mail with
the QSO details is sufficient. If you're in the log, I will put a card in the
mail to you. If you work me when I'm at home, or near the Phoenix area (in
general, when I'm in grids DM33 and/or DM43), then I would appreciate
receiving your QSL card.

I drove 1145 miles/1843km in just over 50 hours on this trip, and operated
from 8 different grid locators in Arizona and Utah (DM44-47, DM54-57) -
including 3 grid boundaries (DM47/DM57, DM54/DM55, DM56/DM57). Other than my
long drive from the ARRL Centennial Convention in Hartford last year up to
northern Maine, it has been a while since I have done a trip like this. It is
fun to mix in satellite operating on trips, and I hope to do more of this in
the remainder of 2015.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 23:49:30 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:49:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYs=N425Yr3TBN7c-QBN=iC2Kukf-Hh6X9_EPTiAh3Pfdg@mail.gmail.com>

Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field day? Im
most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or 1W.
Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.

73 KE8AKW

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 23:55:58 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:55:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Oscar Satellite Page
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYuqk97c6NHDh-tZhtu+AHmVHWH35F6TdMT2Qw+L3me=+w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everybody,
I thought I would just make one quick suggestion, on the Oscar.dcarr.org
Page, We need to add new satellites onto the list, Those satellite are:
EO-80 EO-79 UKUBE-1 NO-83 NO-84, And anyone new ones I missed please
correct/add them!

73 KE8AKW

From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 16 23:56:32 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:56:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYs=N425Yr3TBN7c-QBN=iC2Kukf-Hh6X9_EPTiAh3Pfdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYs=N425Yr3TBN7c-QBN=iC2Kukf-Hh6X9_EPTiAh3Pfdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoMCpVX+oPMfJ_toNV5HOnfw149N9c3_EHgqHig=B+b_Q@mail.gmail.com>

Nick,

It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal should
be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run it at 1
watt).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field day? Im
> most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or 1W.
> Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
>
> 73 KE8AKW
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From ke5gdb at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 14:42:14 2015
From: ke5gdb at gmail.com (Andrew Koenig)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:42:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoMCpVX+oPMfJ_toNV5HOnfw149N9c3_EHgqHig=B+b_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYs=N425Yr3TBN7c-QBN=iC2Kukf-Hh6X9_EPTiAh3Pfdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOoMCpVX+oPMfJ_toNV5HOnfw149N9c3_EHgqHig=B+b_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFingdPYTDofaERneecO-8zH0LWDsTEHPiymHtiibLX0uidOjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here on
the amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz WiFi
gear, but it still hasn't "clicked."

73 de KE5GDB

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> Nick,
>
> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal should
> be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run it at 1
> watt).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field day?
> Im
> > most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or 1W.
> > Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
> >
> > 73 KE8AKW
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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-- 
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From ke5gdb at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 14:43:56 2015
From: ke5gdb at gmail.com (Andrew Koenig)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:43:56 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
In-Reply-To: <CAFingdPYTDofaERneecO-8zH0LWDsTEHPiymHtiibLX0uidOjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYs=N425Yr3TBN7c-QBN=iC2Kukf-Hh6X9_EPTiAh3Pfdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOoMCpVX+oPMfJ_toNV5HOnfw149N9c3_EHgqHig=B+b_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFingdPYTDofaERneecO-8zH0LWDsTEHPiymHtiibLX0uidOjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFingdMPAYuWe7=djyKEE4tTvR1u4-DL+g73WztGOLgnvNYEGg@mail.gmail.com>

*9dB (typo)

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here on
> the amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz WiFi
> gear, but it still hasn't "clicked."
>
> 73 de KE5GDB
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>
>> Nick,
>>
>> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
>> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal should
>> be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run it at 1
>> watt).
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field day?
>> Im
>> > most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or 1W.
>> > Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
>> >
>> > 73 KE8AKW
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>> program!
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>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Koenig
>



-- 
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 17 14:51:22 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:51:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
In-Reply-To: <CAFingdPYTDofaERneecO-8zH0LWDsTEHPiymHtiibLX0uidOjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYs=N425Yr3TBN7c-QBN=iC2Kukf-Hh6X9_EPTiAh3Pfdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOoMCpVX+oPMfJ_toNV5HOnfw149N9c3_EHgqHig=B+b_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFingdPYTDofaERneecO-8zH0LWDsTEHPiymHtiibLX0uidOjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrR4DUbaZy6mR92xLq0QPsXL84ZDGTzoDPzWoc-_74cQg@mail.gmail.com>

Free space path loss is dependent on frequency. All things being equal
(distance, antenna gain on both ends, etc), a 2 meter signal has about
a 9 dB advantage over a 70cm signal.

Here's an explanation:

http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/propagation/path-loss/free-space-formula-equation.php

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here on the
> amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz WiFi gear,
> but it still hasn't "clicked."
>
> 73 de KE5GDB
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>
>> Nick,
>>
>> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
>> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal should
>> be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run it at 1
>> watt).
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field day?
>> > Im
>> > most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or 1W.
>> > Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
>> >
>> > 73 KE8AKW
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Koenig

From ke5gdb at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 14:55:24 2015
From: ke5gdb at gmail.com (Andrew Koenig)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:55:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrR4DUbaZy6mR92xLq0QPsXL84ZDGTzoDPzWoc-_74cQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYs=N425Yr3TBN7c-QBN=iC2Kukf-Hh6X9_EPTiAh3Pfdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOoMCpVX+oPMfJ_toNV5HOnfw149N9c3_EHgqHig=B+b_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFingdPYTDofaERneecO-8zH0LWDsTEHPiymHtiibLX0uidOjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrR4DUbaZy6mR92xLq0QPsXL84ZDGTzoDPzWoc-_74cQg@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks! That website explained it very well, and seeing the formulas really
helped.

73 de KE5GDB

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> Free space path loss is dependent on frequency. All things being equal
> (distance, antenna gain on both ends, etc), a 2 meter signal has about
> a 9 dB advantage over a 70cm signal.
>
> Here's an explanation:
>
>
> http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/propagation/path-loss/free-space-formula-equation.php
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here on
> the
> > amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz WiFi
> gear,
> > but it still hasn't "clicked."
> >
> > 73 de KE5GDB
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Nick,
> >>
> >> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
> >> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal should
> >> be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run it at 1
> >> watt).
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Paul, N8HM
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field
> day?
> >> > Im
> >> > most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or
> 1W.
> >> > Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
> >> >
> >> > 73 KE8AKW
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> > Opinions expressed
> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >> > AMSAT-NA.
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> >> > program!
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> >> expressed
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>



-- 
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From zleffke at vt.edu  Wed Jun 17 15:23:18 2015
From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:23:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
In-Reply-To: <CAFingdMPAYuWe7=djyKEE4tTvR1u4-DL+g73WztGOLgnvNYEGg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYs=N425Yr3TBN7c-QBN=iC2Kukf-Hh6X9_EPTiAh3Pfdg@mail.gmail.com>	<CABzOSOoMCpVX+oPMfJ_toNV5HOnfw149N9c3_EHgqHig=B+b_Q@mail.gmail.com>	<CAFingdPYTDofaERneecO-8zH0LWDsTEHPiymHtiibLX0uidOjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFingdMPAYuWe7=djyKEE4tTvR1u4-DL+g73WztGOLgnvNYEGg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558190E6.4000504@vt.edu>

Paul beat me to the punch as I was typing up my response, but I'm 
sending it anyway:

Path Loss.  ->  function of lambda (wavelength) squared.
So all other things being equal (antenna gains, power levels, range, 
etc.), you can look at the power ratio of the two.

Rough calculation (going from 2m to 70cm):
10log[(0.70/2)^2] = -9.1 dB
OR
Rough calculation (going from 70cm to 2m):
10log[(2/0.7)^2] = +9.1 dB

The thing to watch out for is antenna gains on the ground.  The arrow 
for example has more gain on 70cm (7el) than it does on 2m (3el).  So 
while 2m has a 9-ish dB improvement over 70cm in terms of path loss, the 
receiver may not see the full 9dB because of the difference in gains on 
the antenna between the two bands.

Again VERY rough approximation (for demonstration purposes only):
3el yagi -> call it 7.5 ish dB of gain
7el yagi -> call it 11.5 ish dB of gain
so, about 4 dB of LOST gain (going from 70cm to 2m using the arrow example).

So net gain going from 70cm to 2m (all other things equal except the 
gains on the arrow antenna)
9dB - 4dB = 5dB

so your typo was actually fairly close :-) for those planning to use 
their existing setup for the new birds.

-Zach, KJ4QLP

On 6/17/2015 10:43 AM, Andrew Koenig wrote:
> *9dB (typo)
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here on
>> the amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz WiFi
>> gear, but it still hasn't "clicked."
>>
>> 73 de KE5GDB
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Nick,
>>>
>>> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
>>> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal should
>>> be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run it at 1
>>> watt).
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field day?
>>> Im
>>>> most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or 1W.
>>>> Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
>>>>
>>>> 73 KE8AKW
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Koenig
>>
>
>



From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun 17 16:26:08 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:26:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)
Message-ID: <c4b86a1e3e378e5569f7d66b5c7f8959@mail.gmail.com>

I also am a proponent ot using 2m for weak downlinks because of the 9 dB
advantage.  But it has been pointed out to me that there is a higher
background noise component that needs to be considered.  I have not done
this.  My assumption is that the noise floor at 2m is maybe about 3 dB
worse than at 70cm?

So 2m still wins, but I'm not sure of what the real noise floor is.

Bob, WB4aPR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zach
Leffke
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:23 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested

Paul beat me to the punch as I was typing up my response, but I'm sending
it anyway:

Path Loss.  ->  function of lambda (wavelength) squared.
So all other things being equal (antenna gains, power levels, range,
etc.), you can look at the power ratio of the two.

Rough calculation (going from 2m to 70cm):
10log[(0.70/2)^2] = -9.1 dB
OR
Rough calculation (going from 70cm to 2m):
10log[(2/0.7)^2] = +9.1 dB

The thing to watch out for is antenna gains on the ground.  The arrow for
example has more gain on 70cm (7el) than it does on 2m (3el).  So while 2m
has a 9-ish dB improvement over 70cm in terms of path loss, the receiver
may not see the full 9dB because of the difference in gains on the antenna
between the two bands.

Again VERY rough approximation (for demonstration purposes only):
3el yagi -> call it 7.5 ish dB of gain
7el yagi -> call it 11.5 ish dB of gain
so, about 4 dB of LOST gain (going from 70cm to 2m using the arrow
example).

So net gain going from 70cm to 2m (all other things equal except the gains
on the arrow antenna) 9dB - 4dB = 5dB

so your typo was actually fairly close :-) for those planning to use their
existing setup for the new birds.

-Zach, KJ4QLP

On 6/17/2015 10:43 AM, Andrew Koenig wrote:
> *9dB (typo)
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here
>> on the amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and
>> 5.8GHz WiFi gear, but it still hasn't "clicked."
>>
>> 73 de KE5GDB
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Nick,
>>>
>>> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
>>> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal
>>> should be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run
>>> it at 1 watt).
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr
>>> <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field
day?
>>> Im
>>>> most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or
1W.
>>>> Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
>>>>
>>>> 73 KE8AKW
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
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>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>> views
>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Koenig
>>
>
>


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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 17 16:32:34 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:32:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)
In-Reply-To: <c4b86a1e3e378e5569f7d66b5c7f8959@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c4b86a1e3e378e5569f7d66b5c7f8959@mail.gmail.com>
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That is definitely true. I have terrible noise in certain directions
here in southwest Washington, DC (especially at night - the lighting
on the north fence of my apartment building puts out a hash that
completely wipes out 2m, but is OK on 70cm). The noise level doesn't
affect FM as much, though.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> I also am a proponent ot using 2m for weak downlinks because of the 9 dB
> advantage.  But it has been pointed out to me that there is a higher
> background noise component that needs to be considered.  I have not done
> this.  My assumption is that the noise floor at 2m is maybe about 3 dB
> worse than at 70cm?
>
> So 2m still wins, but I'm not sure of what the real noise floor is.
>
> Bob, WB4aPR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zach
> Leffke
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:23 AM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
>
> Paul beat me to the punch as I was typing up my response, but I'm sending
> it anyway:
>
> Path Loss.  ->  function of lambda (wavelength) squared.
> So all other things being equal (antenna gains, power levels, range,
> etc.), you can look at the power ratio of the two.
>
> Rough calculation (going from 2m to 70cm):
> 10log[(0.70/2)^2] = -9.1 dB
> OR
> Rough calculation (going from 70cm to 2m):
> 10log[(2/0.7)^2] = +9.1 dB
>
> The thing to watch out for is antenna gains on the ground.  The arrow for
> example has more gain on 70cm (7el) than it does on 2m (3el).  So while 2m
> has a 9-ish dB improvement over 70cm in terms of path loss, the receiver
> may not see the full 9dB because of the difference in gains on the antenna
> between the two bands.
>
> Again VERY rough approximation (for demonstration purposes only):
> 3el yagi -> call it 7.5 ish dB of gain
> 7el yagi -> call it 11.5 ish dB of gain
> so, about 4 dB of LOST gain (going from 70cm to 2m using the arrow
> example).
>
> So net gain going from 70cm to 2m (all other things equal except the gains
> on the arrow antenna) 9dB - 4dB = 5dB
>
> so your typo was actually fairly close :-) for those planning to use their
> existing setup for the new birds.
>
> -Zach, KJ4QLP
>
> On 6/17/2015 10:43 AM, Andrew Koenig wrote:
>> *9dB (typo)
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here
>>> on the amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and
>>> 5.8GHz WiFi gear, but it still hasn't "clicked."
>>>
>>> 73 de KE5GDB
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nick,
>>>>
>>>> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
>>>> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal
>>>> should be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run
>>>> it at 1 watt).
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr
>>>> <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field
> day?
>>>> Im
>>>>> most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or
> 1W.
>>>>> Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 KE8AKW
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>> views
>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings:
>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> membership.
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>>>> views of AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Koenig
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 16:42:00 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:42:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYsX4MBpWAcos4nWCbj2Ca+d5LsfEBC-4LB5szAKj=_iKg@mail.gmail.com>

I notice 2M has a high noise floor when im working AO-7, Theres a few same
spots on the passband that have these giant swooshing sounds/etc, It wont
be a problem on EO-80 as I as well have found it dosent affect me on FM,
maybe EO-79. Looks like we wont have to wait for FOX-1 in september to
cover for SO-50... Its really hard to do portable FM operations here where
I live, theres lots of trees, so it makes working SO-50 very difficult
because of its 250 mw power, I wish they would just increase the power on
the thing.

73 KE8AKW

From nss at mwt.net  Wed Jun 17 16:43:16 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:43:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)
In-Reply-To: <c4b86a1e3e378e5569f7d66b5c7f8959@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c4b86a1e3e378e5569f7d66b5c7f8959@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5581A3A4.20604@mwt.net>

why can we not get an old skool mode "A" back?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/17/2015 11:26 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> I also am a proponent ot using 2m for weak downlinks because of the 9 dB
> advantage.  But it has been pointed out to me that there is a higher
> background noise component that needs to be considered.  I have not done
> this.  My assumption is that the noise floor at 2m is maybe about 3 dB
> worse than at 70cm?
>
> So 2m still wins, but I'm not sure of what the real noise floor is.
>
> Bob, WB4aPR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zach
> Leffke
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:23 AM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
>
> Paul beat me to the punch as I was typing up my response, but I'm sending
> it anyway:
>
> Path Loss.  ->  function of lambda (wavelength) squared.
> So all other things being equal (antenna gains, power levels, range,
> etc.), you can look at the power ratio of the two.
>
> Rough calculation (going from 2m to 70cm):
> 10log[(0.70/2)^2] = -9.1 dB
> OR
> Rough calculation (going from 70cm to 2m):
> 10log[(2/0.7)^2] = +9.1 dB
>
> The thing to watch out for is antenna gains on the ground.  The arrow for
> example has more gain on 70cm (7el) than it does on 2m (3el).  So while 2m
> has a 9-ish dB improvement over 70cm in terms of path loss, the receiver
> may not see the full 9dB because of the difference in gains on the antenna
> between the two bands.
>
> Again VERY rough approximation (for demonstration purposes only):
> 3el yagi -> call it 7.5 ish dB of gain
> 7el yagi -> call it 11.5 ish dB of gain
> so, about 4 dB of LOST gain (going from 70cm to 2m using the arrow
> example).
>
> So net gain going from 70cm to 2m (all other things equal except the gains
> on the arrow antenna) 9dB - 4dB = 5dB
>
> so your typo was actually fairly close :-) for those planning to use their
> existing setup for the new birds.
>
> -Zach, KJ4QLP
>
> On 6/17/2015 10:43 AM, Andrew Koenig wrote:
>> *9dB (typo)
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here
>>> on the amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and
>>> 5.8GHz WiFi gear, but it still hasn't "clicked."
>>>
>>> 73 de KE5GDB
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nick,
>>>>
>>>> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
>>>> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal
>>>> should be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run
>>>> it at 1 watt).
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr
>>>> <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field
> day?
>>>> Im
>>>>> most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or
> 1W.
>>>>> Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 KE8AKW
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>> views
>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
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>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> membership.
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Koenig
>>>
>>
>
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 17 16:59:24 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:59:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYsX4MBpWAcos4nWCbj2Ca+d5LsfEBC-4LB5szAKj=_iKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYsX4MBpWAcos4nWCbj2Ca+d5LsfEBC-4LB5szAKj=_iKg@mail.gmail.com>
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The noise peaks on AO-7 are actually coming through the transponder,
not local interference. I don't know if they've always been there or
not, but often the noise peaks are stronger than any of the signals in
the passband.

As far as SO-50, the transmitter running at just 250 mW is probably
part of the reason why the batteries have lasted 13.5 years. AO-27
could only operate the FM transmitter for short periods during it's
orbit and AO-51's batteries lasted only 7 years.

Keep in mind that you'll be able to hear EO-80 and Fox-1 much better
through the trees, but now your uplink signal will be impacted more by
the trees. One medium deciduous tree attenuates signals on 70cm by up
to 10.5 dB.

SO-50 is lots of fun, but it can be frustrating because so many people
just can't hear it and continue to transmit anyway. I hope lots of the
problems we see day-to-day using SO-50 will be reduced by the stronger
signals of EO-80 and the Fox-1 series. One minor thing is that tuning
the uplink will be a bit trickier than tuning the downlink for
stations that are running half duplex. They'll have to remember to
tune the transmit frequency up 5 kHz about 4 times during the pass.

Anyone who wants to program memories for EO-80 should follow this plan:

EO-80 AOS - TX 435.070 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
EO-80 2      -  TX 435.075 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
EO-80 TCA  -  TX 435.080 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
EO-80 4      -  TX 435.085 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
EO-80 LOS -  TX 435.090 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz

73,

Paul, N8HM


On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I notice 2M has a high noise floor when im working AO-7, Theres a few same
> spots on the passband that have these giant swooshing sounds/etc, It wont
> be a problem on EO-80 as I as well have found it dosent affect me on FM,
> maybe EO-79. Looks like we wont have to wait for FOX-1 in september to
> cover for SO-50... Its really hard to do portable FM operations here where
> I live, theres lots of trees, so it makes working SO-50 very difficult
> because of its 250 mw power, I wish they would just increase the power on
> the thing.
>
> 73 KE8AKW
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 17 17:05:13 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:05:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)
In-Reply-To: <5581A3A4.20604@mwt.net>
References: <c4b86a1e3e378e5569f7d66b5c7f8959@mail.gmail.com>
	<5581A3A4.20604@mwt.net>
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Mode A would be fun, but equipment to work VHF/UHF is so common these
days, I'm not sure there's much point in a 10m downlink. Mode B and
Mode J are really not that much more difficult than working Mode A and
have advantages (noise floor and antenna size, especially).

The real problem is deploying a good 10m antenna from a cubesat to
produce a decent signal on the ground. 10m uplinks, on the other hand,
are something to look into (as W2RS has presented in numerous forums).
With NO-84, we now have a good experimental 10m uplink to test out.
Since ground stations can usually increase power to compensate from a
loaded antenna on the satellite, the use of a short antenna from a
cubesat for an uplink receiver isn't as much of a problem.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> why can we not get an old skool mode "A" back?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
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> On 6/17/2015 11:26 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>>
>> I also am a proponent ot using 2m for weak downlinks because of the 9 dB
>> advantage.  But it has been pointed out to me that there is a higher
>> background noise component that needs to be considered.  I have not done
>> this.  My assumption is that the noise floor at 2m is maybe about 3 dB
>> worse than at 70cm?
>>
>> So 2m still wins, but I'm not sure of what the real noise floor is.
>>
>> Bob, WB4aPR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zach
>> Leffke
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:23 AM
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested
>>
>> Paul beat me to the punch as I was typing up my response, but I'm sending
>> it anyway:
>>
>> Path Loss.  ->  function of lambda (wavelength) squared.
>> So all other things being equal (antenna gains, power levels, range,
>> etc.), you can look at the power ratio of the two.
>>
>> Rough calculation (going from 2m to 70cm):
>> 10log[(0.70/2)^2] = -9.1 dB
>> OR
>> Rough calculation (going from 70cm to 2m):
>> 10log[(2/0.7)^2] = +9.1 dB
>>
>> The thing to watch out for is antenna gains on the ground.  The arrow for
>> example has more gain on 70cm (7el) than it does on 2m (3el).  So while 2m
>> has a 9-ish dB improvement over 70cm in terms of path loss, the receiver
>> may not see the full 9dB because of the difference in gains on the antenna
>> between the two bands.
>>
>> Again VERY rough approximation (for demonstration purposes only):
>> 3el yagi -> call it 7.5 ish dB of gain
>> 7el yagi -> call it 11.5 ish dB of gain
>> so, about 4 dB of LOST gain (going from 70cm to 2m using the arrow
>> example).
>>
>> So net gain going from 70cm to 2m (all other things equal except the gains
>> on the arrow antenna) 9dB - 4dB = 5dB
>>
>> so your typo was actually fairly close :-) for those planning to use their
>> existing setup for the new birds.
>>
>> -Zach, KJ4QLP
>>
>> On 6/17/2015 10:43 AM, Andrew Koenig wrote:
>>>
>>> *9dB (typo)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you explain the 6dB advantage 2m has over 70cm? I've seen it here
>>>> on the amsat-bb, and in the mesh realm when comparing 2.4GHz and
>>>> 5.8GHz WiFi gear, but it still hasn't "clicked."
>>>>
>>>> 73 de KE5GDB
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nick,
>>>>>
>>>>> It should be even stronger than AO-27's 500 mW, AO-27 had a 70cm
>>>>> downlink, the EO-80 downlink is on 2 meters, so EO-80's signal
>>>>> should be up to 9 dB stronger than AO-27 (12 dB stronger if they run
>>>>> it at 1 watt).
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Nicholas Mahr
>>>>> <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats very good news, Hopefully the two get activated before field
>>
>> day?
>>>>>
>>>>> Im
>>>>>>
>>>>>> most looking forward to EO-80, It should be like AO-27 with 500Mw or
>>
>> 1W.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to know both are working well and wish a long life to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 KE8AKW
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jun 17 17:23:11 2015
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:23:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpfiB0Uh-x22a8VmwkQzveBo4LkeisLurR+26g8-nAhwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOpfiB0Uh-x22a8VmwkQzveBo4LkeisLurR+26g8-nAhwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76227438.942783.1434561791538.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Results of Ambient RF Environment and Noise Floor Measurements Taken in the U.S. in 2004 and 2005
https://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/TEM/SG-RFC06/Ambient-RF-noise.pdf?

73 Trevor M5AKA
 

  

  

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Wed Jun 17 18:08:39 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:08:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV June 17 1335 pass
Message-ID: <5581B7A7.6070506@coloradosatellite.com>

1735Z pass.  Good up and downlink on a 5 degrees pass to the east and 
northeast.  No one to work.

Next pass is 1916Z.  I it is 78 degrees max ele for us to the west.

We will try to work as many as we can. As a reminder it is much easier 
for me to find you in the passband if you just transmit on 145.985.  I 
am tuning +- 10 or so from my downlink and I can follow your Doppler 
without difficulty.

We may try the 2106Z pass tonight but the last one of these skimmers to 
the west there was no one on to work.

We have had a great and long opening on 6 meters today all the way to 
Colo.  Ken worked a couple hundred on CW and some SSB.  We think it was 
enhanced by tropo here - getting us into the Es spot up near Puerto Rico.

On HF we got the RTTY going after some struggles and it is now a total 
zoo on 14.082.  We will probably keep RTTY going today and tomorrow. 
Tomorrow is our last day of operating.

Jim

From dave at druidnetworks.com  Wed Jun 17 18:15:48 2015
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (Dave Swanson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:15:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV June 17 1335 pass
In-Reply-To: <5581B7A7.6070506@coloradosatellite.com>
References: <5581B7A7.6070506@coloradosatellite.com>
Message-ID: <5581B954.5030700@druidnetworks.com>

Hey Jim,

Just to clarify are you wanting us to transmit on 145.985? or 145.925 as 
the previous passes were.

Back home now, so hope to catch you on this next pass.. Thanks and 73!

-Dave, KG5CCI

On 6/17/2015 1:08 PM, Jim White wrote:
> 1735Z pass.  Good up and downlink on a 5 degrees pass to the east and 
> northeast.  No one to work.
>
> Next pass is 1916Z.  I it is 78 degrees max ele for us to the west.
>
> We will try to work as many as we can. As a reminder it is much easier 
> for me to find you in the passband if you just transmit on 145.985.  I 
> am tuning +- 10 or so from my downlink and I can follow your Doppler 
> without difficulty.
>
> We may try the 2106Z pass tonight but the last one of these skimmers 
> to the west there was no one on to work.
>
> We have had a great and long opening on 6 meters today all the way to 
> Colo.  Ken worked a couple hundred on CW and some SSB.  We think it 
> was enhanced by tropo here - getting us into the Es spot up near 
> Puerto Rico.
>
> On HF we got the RTTY going after some struggles and it is now a total 
> zoo on 14.082.  We will probably keep RTTY going today and tomorrow. 
> Tomorrow is our last day of operating.
>
> Jim
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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Wed Jun 17 18:17:40 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:17:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV June 17 1335 pass
In-Reply-To: <5581B954.5030700@druidnetworks.com>
References: <5581B7A7.6070506@coloradosatellite.com>
	<5581B954.5030700@druidnetworks.com>
Message-ID: <5581B9C4.8030501@coloradosatellite.com>

sorry, typo.  925.   925

On 6/17/2015 2:15 PM, Dave Swanson wrote:
> Hey Jim,
>
> Just to clarify are you wanting us to transmit on 145.985? or 145.925 
> as the previous passes were.
>
> Back home now, so hope to catch you on this next pass.. Thanks and 73!
>
> -Dave, KG5CCI
>
> On 6/17/2015 1:08 PM, Jim White wrote:
>> 1735Z pass.  Good up and downlink on a 5 degrees pass to the east and 
>> northeast.  No one to work.
>>
>> Next pass is 1916Z.  I it is 78 degrees max ele for us to the west.
>>
>> We will try to work as many as we can. As a reminder it is much 
>> easier for me to find you in the passband if you just transmit on 
>> 145.985.  I am tuning +- 10 or so from my downlink and I can follow 
>> your Doppler without difficulty.
>>
>> We may try the 2106Z pass tonight but the last one of these skimmers 
>> to the west there was no one on to work.
>>
>> We have had a great and long opening on 6 meters today all the way to 
>> Colo.  Ken worked a couple hundred on CW and some SSB.  We think it 
>> was enhanced by tropo here - getting us into the Es spot up near 
>> Puerto Rico.
>>
>> On HF we got the RTTY going after some struggles and it is now a 
>> total zoo on 14.082.  We will probably keep RTTY going today and 
>> tomorrow. Tomorrow is our last day of operating.
>>
>> Jim
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From lu2dpw at yahoo.com.ar  Wed Jun 17 19:11:05 2015
From: lu2dpw at yahoo.com.ar (LU2DPW Juan Carlos)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:11:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 pass window NOW  19:15:34 - 19:18:27 UTC
In-Reply-To: <5581B9C4.8030501@coloradosatellite.com>
References: <5581B9C4.8030501@coloradosatellite.com>
Message-ID: <1498587879.607182.1434568265193.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Jim

My name is Juan and my Call LU2DPW.
Please look for me next pass window 19:15:34 - 19:18:27 UTC.

I look for you on SSB 145925 UP
Thanks
Juan

LU2DPW - GF05gi?

From clintbradford at mac.com  Wed Jun 17 18:32:29 2015
From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:32:29 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Shows in Wayne, NY and ORCO, CA in August
Message-ID: <ECDD09D9-6403-4416-ABAD-A2434C7C49AF@mac.com>

Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting 'Working Amateur Satellites
With Your HT' session at two clubs in August. Admission is absolutely 
free, and visitors are WELCOME to attend!

Monday, August 10, 2015 - 7:30PM Eastern
Wayne (New Jersey) Amateur Radio Club
Wayne Public Library
461 Valley Road,
Wayne, NJ  07470
Talk-in on 440.950MHz+ 97.4

Monday, August 17, 2015 - 7:00PM Pacific
SOARA - South Orange County (CA) Radio Association
Norman P. Murray Community Center
24932 Veterans Way, Mission Viejo CA  92692
Talk-in available on either of these SOARA repeaters:
147.645- 110.9 -or- 447.180- 131.8

Between the material presented, the free downloads available on the
support Work-Sat.com Web site, and the always-lively Q&A afterward,
attendees will be provided with all the information they will need to work
FM amateur satellites - and more.

Pre-presentation questions are welcomed - send email to:

k6lcs at ham-sat.info

/end/

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Wed Jun 17 19:38:37 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:38:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV 1516 pass
Message-ID: <5581CCBD.4050305@coloradosatellite.com>

Got these

WA4NVM
NX9G
N5JF
WB8TGY on CW
KC8QDQ
NX9B right at our LOS

We will try the 2106Z pass here although last night with a pass like 
that we heard no one.

Jim

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Wed Jun 17 19:59:54 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:59:54 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Trip Report June 2015 to CN74/CN75, CN84
Message-ID: <C3D012C7-2C64-4035-97C2-8C8122F78548@kl7cn.net>

Hello, AMSAT-BB:

Recently I made a trip to CN74/CN75 and CN84. Here is my report.

A business trip to the Portland, Oregon area (CN85) over the week of June 6, 2015 through June 10, 2015 gave me and my XYL Karen an opportunity to visit her family. They live in CN84, and the family's favorite Indian Casino is very near the gridline of CN74/CN75. I saw an opportunity!

Previous remote trips have involved an Icom IC-W32A and an Arrow. This was effective when there were more FM satellites.

In the time since I have accumulated some gear compatible with linear satellite work. This is what I took with me:

Uplink:
Yaesu FT-897D with two internal battery packs and W4RT fast charger.

Downlink:
Yaesu FT-817ND with expanded internal battery pack and stock charger.

Antenna:
Arrow II 146/437 with 10BP module removed.

Cables:
Two 10-foot runs of high-quality RG-58, one for VHF and the other for UHF.

Other equipment:
Sony ICD-UX70 MP3 Recorder wired inline with FT-817ND and
Heil Traveler Dual headset.
Tripod purchased at a thrift store.
Garmin 72H GPS  using WGS-84 data to verify location.
Audio cable splitter to allow for remote auditing.
Apple iPhone 6 Plus running GoSatWatch 3.2 for pass timing and visualization.

I negotiated with the family to schedule our traditional "casino crawl" visit around a low eastern pass of FO-29. The normal extemporaneous nature of scheduling these visits did not allow much advance notification of the operation, but were were able to send an e-mail to this list and broadcast a notification on Twitter a couple hours in advance.

DXpedition team members included myself, XYL Karen, and XYL's brother Jason.

We located the grid line in the parking lot of a nearby RV park. 

Here is a diagram of our operating location:



Here is a verification of our location:



Our XYL and her brother were especially accommodating in precisely locating the vehicle at the 45.00000 degree line, and changed the parking spot of our vehicle four times to get it just right. In accordance with VUCC rules, the Transmitter must be at the proper location, and it certainly was.

All equipment fit inside a carefully packed and padded standard-sized airline carry-on wheeled bag. It was necessary to partially break down the Arrow, but assembly was quickly accomplished.

We set up the tripod, wired in the antenna, situated the radios on the open back hatch of the vehicle, and wired up the audio cables. Jason-Brother monitored the audio and XYL Karen took photos of the operation.





After the pass concluded, we disassembled and packed all equipment, and proceeded to give our semi-annual contribution to the Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians. 

In all, we made 6 contacts with the following operators:

W0DHB
N8RO
W7LRD
AJ9K
K7ULS
KF7PCL

The use of the MP3 recorder was extremely valuable to clarify callsigns after the QSO.

Post-Production work:
We use Microsoft Excel to log each pass worked along with its parameters.
We use Audacity 2.0.5 for decoding and processing the MP3 files.
We use Ham Radio Deluxe Logbook 6.2.10.377 for storing QSO records and TQSL 2.0.3 to upload QSLs to Log Of The World.

To post-process the DXpedition, we performed the following steps:

1. Created a new profile in TQSL named KL7CN_W7-CN74xx
2. Created a new log in HRD Logbook named KL7CN_W7-CN74xx-SAT.
3. Created a new My Station entry in HRD Logbook named KL7CN_W7-CN74xx.
4. Copied the MP3 file from the recorder to a special Dropbox folder.
5. Renamed the file to 20150612T2217Z KL7CN_W7 CN74xx FO-29.mp3 for ease of location later.
6. Made an entry for the pass in the Excel spreadsheet containing all the pass parameters as generated by GoSatWatch.
7. Listened to each QSO in the MP3 file using Audacity.
8. Made two entries for each QSO -- 1 per grid -- in HRD. Note: HRD has several issues that add extra work for satellite operators. Notably, the Band RX and Freq RX fields must be set manually. Have not been able to convince HRD publisher to fix these issues despite several passionate requests; especially annoying as these fields were previously available in HRD 5.x era.
9. Uploaded QSOs to LotW after double-checking the location setting.

Left to do:

10. Generate printed QSL template in MS Word based on another template previously used for these DXpeditions.
11. Mail QSLs to happy recipients.

CN84 activity:
Repeated these steps for activity in CN84 (at Jason-Brother's house), operating on two passes. Chose early low eastern passes for the benefit of east coast operators.

Changes for next time:
1. Obtain a lighter tripod, perhaps a telescope tripod?
2. Establish counter-weight for Arrow, as axial rotation is quite important for resolving satellite fading issues. Sometimes the Arrow would twist off in an odd direction when it was axially rotated. (Not sure if telescope tripods are rotatable axially like camera tripods.)
3. Obtain a powered speaker for audiences.
4. Locate or build some sort of an audio mixer that would allow uplink audio to be mixed in with downlink recording, as downlink recordings of uplink are not always especially audible.
5. Label the base of each element of Arrow for even faster assembly.
6. Obtain preamps, possibly.
7. Consider alternative logging software.

Keepers for next time:
1. Although heavy as sin, the extra power of the FT-897D is quite valuable especially on SO-50. Will continue with this.
2. The Garmin 72H GPS is quite sufficient to prove location.
3. The MP3 Audio Recorder.
4. Taking all the gear as a carry-on in the airplane.

Notes on passing rather odd-looking equipment through the American TSA:
Although the disassembled Arrow and dense batteries of the two transceivers must surely look like a threat or IED in the X-Ray, no one at the TSA looked twice or asked about them. However, my body was inspected quite closely and thoroughly, as extra adipose tissue is surely suspect as improvised plastic explosives.

Possible next operation:
The grid line of CN94/DN04 is a three-hour drive from Jason-Brother's house in CN84. If overnight accommodations can be arranged, it may be possible to activate these relatively rare grids with the support of the family. There are no Indian Casinos in this area, but it is a beautiful drive.

Thanks for reading! Looking forward the next Grid DXpedition!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Wed Jun 17 20:20:54 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:20:54 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Trip Report June 2015 to CN74/CN75, CN84 (with pictures)
Message-ID: <8A5D477C-3015-43CE-B870-DFDE24556CFB@kl7cn.net>

(With picture links instead of attachments.)

Hello, AMSAT-BB:

Recently I made a trip to CN74/CN75 and CN84. Here is my report.

A business trip to the Portland, Oregon area (CN85) over the week of June 6, 2015 through June 10, 2015 gave me and my XYL Karen an opportunity to visit her family. They live in CN84, and the family's favorite Indian Casino is very near the gridline of CN74/CN75. I saw an opportunity!

Previous remote trips have involved an Icom IC-W32A and an Arrow. This was effective when there were more FM satellites.

In the time since I have accumulated some gear compatible with linear satellite work. This is what I took with me:

Uplink:
Yaesu FT-897D with two internal battery packs and W4RT fast charger.

Downlink:
Yaesu FT-817ND with expanded internal battery pack and stock charger.

Antenna:
Arrow II 146/437 with 10BP module removed.

Cables:
Two 10-foot runs of high-quality RG-58, one for VHF and the other for UHF.

Other equipment:
Sony ICD-UX70 MP3 Recorder wired inline with FT-817ND and
Heil Traveler Dual headset.
Tripod purchased at a thrift store.
Garmin 72H GPS  using WGS-84 data to verify location.
Audio cable splitter to allow for remote auditing.
Apple iPhone 6 Plus running GoSatWatch 3.2 for pass timing and visualization.

I negotiated with the family to schedule our traditional "casino crawl" visit around a low eastern pass of FO-29. The normal extemporaneous nature of scheduling these visits did not allow much advance notification of the operation, but were were able to send an e-mail to this list and broadcast a notification on Twitter a couple hours in advance.

DXpedition team members included myself, XYL Karen, and XYL's brother Jason.

We located the grid line in the parking lot of a nearby RV park. 

Here is a diagram of our operating location:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zehycvjjvl0sgfo/Trip%20Report%20June%202015%20to%20CN74%3ACN75%2C%20CN84%20Item%201.png?dl=0

Here is a verification of our location:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/344iaz4m22l1ifk/Trip%20Report%20June%202015%20to%20CN74%3ACN75%2C%20CN84%20Item%202.JPG?dl=0

Our XYL and her brother were especially accommodating in precisely locating the vehicle at the 45.00000 degree line, and changed the parking spot of our vehicle four times to get it just right. In accordance with VUCC rules, the Transmitter must be at the proper location, and it certainly was.

All equipment fit inside a carefully packed and padded standard-sized airline carry-on wheeled bag. It was necessary to partially break down the Arrow, but assembly was quickly accomplished.

We set up the tripod, wired in the antenna, situated the radios on the open back hatch of the vehicle, and wired up the audio cables. Jason-Brother monitored the audio and XYL Karen took photos of the operation.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbmn9slls4z2nfg/Trip%20Report%20June%202015%20to%20CN74%3ACN75%2C%20CN84%20Item%203.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hevqsc1oyo19vqe/Trip%20Report%20June%202015%20to%20CN74%3ACN75%2C%20CN84%20Item%204.JPG?dl=0

After the pass concluded, we disassembled and packed all equipment, and proceeded to give our semi-annual contribution to the Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians. 

In all, we made 6 contacts with the following operators:

W0DHB
N8RO
W7LRD
AJ9K
K7ULS
KF7PCL

The use of the MP3 recorder was extremely valuable to clarify callsigns after the QSO.

Post-Production work:
We use Microsoft Excel to log each pass worked along with its parameters.
We use Audacity 2.0.5 for decoding and processing the MP3 files.
We use Ham Radio Deluxe Logbook 6.2.10.377 for storing QSO records and TQSL 2.0.3 to upload QSLs to Log Of The World.

To post-process the DXpedition, we performed the following steps:

1. Created a new profile in TQSL named KL7CN_W7-CN74xx
2. Created a new log in HRD Logbook named KL7CN_W7-CN74xx-SAT.
3. Created a new My Station entry in HRD Logbook named KL7CN_W7-CN74xx.
4. Copied the MP3 file from the recorder to a special Dropbox folder.
5. Renamed the file to 20150612T2217Z KL7CN_W7 CN74xx FO-29.mp3 for ease of location later.
6. Made an entry for the pass in the Excel spreadsheet containing all the pass parameters as generated by GoSatWatch.
7. Listened to each QSO in the MP3 file using Audacity.
8. Made two entries for each QSO -- 1 per grid -- in HRD. Note: HRD has several issues that add extra work for satellite operators. Notably, the Band RX and Freq RX fields must be set manually. Have not been able to convince HRD publisher to fix these issues despite several passionate requests; especially annoying as these fields were previously available in HRD 5.x era.
9. Uploaded QSOs to LotW after double-checking the location setting.

Left to do:

10. Generate printed QSL template in MS Word based on another template previously used for these DXpeditions.
11. Mail QSLs to happy recipients.

CN84 activity:
Repeated these steps for activity in CN84 (at Jason-Brother's house), operating on two passes. Chose early low eastern passes for the benefit of east coast operators.

Changes for next time:
1. Obtain a lighter tripod, perhaps a telescope tripod?
2. Establish counter-weight for Arrow, as axial rotation is quite important for resolving satellite fading issues. Sometimes the Arrow would twist off in an odd direction when it was axially rotated. (Not sure if telescope tripods are rotatable axially like camera tripods.)
3. Obtain a powered speaker for audiences.
4. Locate or build some sort of an audio mixer that would allow uplink audio to be mixed in with downlink recording, as downlink recordings of uplink are not always especially audible.
5. Label the base of each element of Arrow for even faster assembly.
6. Obtain preamps, possibly.
7. Consider alternative logging software.

Keepers for next time:
1. Although heavy as sin, the extra power of the FT-897D is quite valuable especially on SO-50. Will continue with this.
2. The Garmin 72H GPS is quite sufficient to prove location.
3. The MP3 Audio Recorder.
4. Taking all the gear as a carry-on in the airplane.

Notes on passing rather odd-looking equipment through the American TSA:
Although the disassembled Arrow and dense batteries of the two transceivers must surely look like a threat or IED in the X-Ray, no one at the TSA looked twice or asked about them. However, my body was inspected quite closely and thoroughly, as extra adipose tissue is surely suspect as improvised plastic explosives.

Possible next operation:
The grid line of CN94/DN04 is a three-hour drive from Jason-Brother's house in CN84. If overnight accommodations can be arranged, it may be possible to activate these relatively rare grids with the support of the family. There are no Indian Casinos in this area, but it is a beautiful drive.

Thanks for reading! Looking forward the next Grid DXpedition!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN

From lu2dpw at yahoo.com.ar  Wed Jun 17 20:50:03 2015
From: lu2dpw at yahoo.com.ar (LU2DPW Juan Carlos)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:50:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV FO-29 pass window for Argentina
Message-ID: <1760425917.681468.1434574203861.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Many thanks Jim for oportunity.
Please tomorrow? 20:06:16 - 20:08:39 UTC look me.
I have contact with Puerto Rico, Venezuela and recently Martinique Island.
Thanks
73 de Juan LU2DPW - Mercedes(Bs.As) - GF05gi
?

From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun 17 21:07:51 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:07:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)
In-Reply-To: <76227438.942783.1434561791538.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CABzOSOpfiB0Uh-x22a8VmwkQzveBo4LkeisLurR+26g8-nAhwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<76227438.942783.1434561791538.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5627f5518192036d370c40672900fa08@mail.gmail.com>

Wow,
If I read that correctly the charts are showing almost 20 dB or more higher
noisefloor measurements on VHF than UHF.  That is a huge difference.
But in the text they say it is "30 dB" higher.  I haven?t had time to dig
out why the say that, but at a first cut, this shows the 9 dB link advantage
of VHF over UHF vanishes at the ground station trying to hear a weak signal
in the noise...

I did not have time  to thouroughly digest the report.  SO may have jumped
to the wrong conclusion based on the details.

Bob, WB4aPR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of M5AKA
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:23 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder Tested (noise floor?)

Results of Ambient RF Environment and Noise Floor Measurements Taken in the
U.S. in 2004 and 2005
https://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/TEM/SG-RFC06/Ambient-RF-noise.pdf

73 Trevor M5AKA





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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Wed Jun 17 21:21:51 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:21:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV 2106 pass
Message-ID: <5581E4EF.1070907@coloradosatellite.com>

Worked

N8RO
KG5CCI
N6RFM (distance record ?)

Last two passes from Montserrat FK86 tomorrow at 1826Z and 2012Z.

Jim

From paul.hamradio at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 00:02:49 2015
From: paul.hamradio at verizon.net (Paul - K6HR)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:02:49 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Countdown Has Disappeared
Message-ID: <B580396B7ED64C31BF5E980766CFDDBA@HAMBOX>


I'm hoping someone can help clear this up! Not sure what happened, but when
I start SatPC32 the "Countdown" window no longer appears. I've tried
reselecting it from the ACCY menu, also did a reinstallation of the program.

Must be something simple I have overlooked but seem at a dead end here.

Any advice or suggestions would be most welcome!

Paul Delaney - K6HR
paul.hamradio at verizon.net
http://gw.k6hr.ampr.org:8080


From my.callsign at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 00:44:56 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:44:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSAT Status ??
Message-ID: <55821488.9010005@verizon.net>

Since SatPC32 started speaking German a few days ago, I take it that 
Light Sail has reentered.  So I have been listening for BricSAT NO-83, 
but I do not hear, see or display any type of data.

I have been monitoring 437.975 MHz FM for 9K6 Packet.  Is it supposed to 
be repeating 1K2 data from the uplink of 145.825FM as well as telemetry 
???  It should be able to hear NO-84 quit well as a source.

Or is the feature not turned on ?

With the two satellites in view of each other, the PSK-31 transponder 
would pose a conflict.  I would not expect that transponder  to be on.


KO6TZ   Bob

From stu at stu2.net  Thu Jun 18 01:39:50 2015
From: stu at stu2.net (Stu)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:39:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Satellites
In-Reply-To: <76227438.942783.1434561791538.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CABzOSOpfiB0Uh-x22a8VmwkQzveBo4LkeisLurR+26g8-nAhwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<76227438.942783.1434561791538.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <55822166.1090906@stu2.net>

Hello - which satellites should we use for Field Day next week?

Thanks!

From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Jun 18 01:41:25 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:41:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Satellites
In-Reply-To: <55822166.1090906@stu2.net>
References: <CABzOSOpfiB0Uh-x22a8VmwkQzveBo4LkeisLurR+26g8-nAhwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<76227438.942783.1434561791538.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<55822166.1090906@stu2.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpAAyy0bSobejTRUEtiYxV=nidir7pguCpEOXt2k3H4Nw@mail.gmail.com>

Any of them that are working!

Right now that's AO-7, AO-73, FO-29, SO-50, NO-84, and the ISS digipeater.

Be sure to do a dry run with your setup before setting up and good luck.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Stu <stu at stu2.net> wrote:
> Hello - which satellites should we use for Field Day next week?
>
> Thanks!
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From n6rfm1 at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 01:55:41 2015
From: n6rfm1 at verizon.net (Bob Mattaliano)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:55:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV 2106 pass -- TKS
Message-ID: <5582251D.2090500@verizon.net>

Hi Jim,

Sorry, not a distance record.  We moved back to the East Coast in '93.

To refresh your memory, FN41 includes our Bristol RI QTH.  I worked you 
at 8 degrees; very fortunately for me while pointing westward as the 
bird was over the central US.  I have a pretty clear shot in that 
direction.  Due south would have required more elevation due to a hill, 
and it was a pretty narrow window for me during the pass.

So, THANKS for being there!  Much appreciate all of your efforts.

73,

Bob
N6RFM in FN41iq





From Stu at stu2.net  Thu Jun 18 02:08:07 2015
From: Stu at stu2.net (Stu at stu2.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:08:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Satellites
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpAAyy0bSobejTRUEtiYxV=nidir7pguCpEOXt2k3H4Nw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOpfiB0Uh-x22a8VmwkQzveBo4LkeisLurR+26g8-nAhwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<76227438.942783.1434561791538.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<55822166.1090906@stu2.net>
	<CABzOSOpAAyy0bSobejTRUEtiYxV=nidir7pguCpEOXt2k3H4Nw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C2D31F26-DF76-4904-AD94-88B15F46E63F@stu2.net>

Thanks for the info, Paul. Good advice.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Any of them that are working!
> 
> Right now that's AO-7, AO-73, FO-29, SO-50, NO-84, and the ISS digipeater.
> 
> Be sure to do a dry run with your setup before setting up and good luck.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Stu <stu at stu2.net> wrote:
>> Hello - which satellites should we use for Field Day next week?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 03:14:51 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:14:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYvEDCwWrioOuNO=xBYhZRKKCtjBN58gTU-O2-PJJNsM9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone,

I had a few questions on SatPC32.. We used to use Nova For Windows for a
long time, but havent used it for many years now... When I load up nova for
windows it just has whole bunch of errors, making it unusable, I have even
tried downloading the demo from the website but that dont work either, So
for many years I have looked for a new 3D program. Im currently using
Orbitron, its ok. But I stumbled across SatPC32, First off I saw you can
buy this for a discount at the AMSAT store if your a member, which I am.
Secondly, can you rotate the globe in 3D view, thats the main selling point
on this program for me rather than a flat map, and do you recommend this
program? Do alot of people out there use this? And if I can somehow
magically fix nova for windows I would use it.. It looks like they dont
even really support it anymore, the NLSA website is in ruins basically. But
just thought i would ask about this program before buying.

73 KE8AKW

From kq6ea at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 03:46:00 2015
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:46:00 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Satellites
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpAAyy0bSobejTRUEtiYxV=nidir7pguCpEOXt2k3H4Nw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOpfiB0Uh-x22a8VmwkQzveBo4LkeisLurR+26g8-nAhwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<76227438.942783.1434561791538.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<55822166.1090906@stu2.net>
	<CABzOSOpAAyy0bSobejTRUEtiYxV=nidir7pguCpEOXt2k3H4Nw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55823EF8.1000301@verizon.net>

Yes, and yes!

I'll be setting up in my back yard Thursday, so I'll be on from DM03 if 
anybody needs the grid.

73, Jim  KQ6EA


On 06/18/2015 01:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Any of them that are working!
>
> Right now that's AO-7, AO-73, FO-29, SO-50, NO-84, and the ISS digipeater.
>
> Be sure to do a dry run with your setup before setting up and good luck.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Stu <stu at stu2.net> wrote:
>> Hello - which satellites should we use for Field Day next week?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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From paul.hamradio at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 04:17:23 2015
From: paul.hamradio at verizon.net (Paul - K6HR)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:17:23 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Question on the Amsat bb
In-Reply-To: <1238472824.525472.1434598316126.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
References: <1415846576.523495.1434598063744.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
	<1238472824.525472.1434598316126.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0A146C775ABA4A49885510C81CCBDB2F@HAMBOX>

 

Hi Jeff,

 

Thanks for the reply. The 'countdown' window does not open when chosen from
the ACCY menu and does not appear anywhere on the desktop.

 

  _____  

From: nx9b at comcast.net [mailto:nx9b at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: paul.hamradio at verizon.net
Subject: SatPC32 Question on the Amsat bb

 

Hi, Paul, This is Jeff, NX9B.

I saw your question about the countdown window in SatPC and thought I would
try to help you out.

 

Start SatPC

On the Accy pulldown, pick countdown

Once the count down window is there, check the "open window at program
start" box.

 

PICK 'STORE' IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER

 

Close SatPC and restart the program.

 

The countdown window should now show up when you start the program.

 

Let me know if this did not help...

 

73 de Jeff, NX9B


From paul.hamradio at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 06:05:59 2015
From: paul.hamradio at verizon.net (Paul - K6HR)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:05:59 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Question on the Amsat bb
References: <1415846576.523495.1434598063744.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
	<1238472824.525472.1434598316126.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <73B06B01712D4E6CB7E5EBBE37A77483@HAMBOX>

 

Thanks to all who replied. I found the file 'CountDownPos.SQF' after
replacing it with a default copy of the file, the CountDown window has
returned!

Now if I just knew what happened I might know what to avoid. The 'bad' file
looked like this:

 

243

3924

+

5

-

-

-10

 

  _____  

From: Paul - K6HR [mailto:paul.hamradio at verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:17 PM
To: 'nx9b at comcast.net'
Cc: 'amsat-bb at amsat.org'
Subject: RE: SatPC32 Question on the Amsat bb

 

 

Hi Jeff,

 

Thanks for the reply. The 'countdown' window does not open when chosen from
the ACCY menu and does not appear anywhere on the desktop.

 

  _____  

From: nx9b at comcast.net [mailto:nx9b at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:32 PM
To: paul.hamradio at verizon.net
Subject: SatPC32 Question on the Amsat bb

 

Hi, Paul, This is Jeff, NX9B.

I saw your question about the countdown window in SatPC and thought I would
try to help you out.

 

Start SatPC

On the Accy pulldown, pick countdown

Once the count down window is there, check the "open window at program
start" box.

 

PICK 'STORE' IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER

 

Close SatPC and restart the program.

 

The countdown window should now show up when you start the program.

 

Let me know if this did not help...

 

73 de Jeff, NX9B


From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun 18 11:15:55 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:15:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSAT Status ??
In-Reply-To: <55821488.9010005@verizon.net>
References: <55821488.9010005@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <0f1370b92a82f3674d73711347eb6d61@mail.gmail.com>

I think that feature was never implemented.  So the only transponder of
value on BRICSAT is its PSK31 transponder with identical feuqnencies as
PSAT, that is, 28.120+ uplink and 435.350 +/- downlink. (PSK31 tones
needed to activate).

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of KO6TZ Bob
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:45 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSAT Status ??

Since SatPC32 started speaking German a few days ago, I take it that Light
Sail has reentered.  So I have been listening for BricSAT NO-83, but I do
not hear, see or display any type of data.

I have been monitoring 437.975 MHz FM for 9K6 Packet.  Is it supposed to
be repeating 1K2 data from the uplink of 145.825FM as well as telemetry
???  It should be able to hear NO-84 quit well as a source.

Or is the feature not turned on ?

With the two satellites in view of each other, the PSK-31 transponder
would pose a conflict.  I would not expect that transponder  to be on.


KO6TZ   Bob
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun 18 11:33:45 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:33:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge
Message-ID: <7782ba6049ec6556a76d52eab50defb8@mail.gmail.com>

PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.  The downlink capture on
the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture
any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.  Although PSAT supports
the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without
changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we
figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.  This morning we sent
the commands and will be watching to see if they work.  If they did, then
PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS
POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE
of that orbit, the clock is totally off.  SO instead of going from 0 to 95
minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00
to 61 on every orbit.  And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the
equator (actually 5 South latitude)  on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it
will be able to report its own position.  And we can activate its attitude
control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun 18 16:14:28 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:14:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
Message-ID: <78799d6c6a8d4cd656f067dee5ed491a@mail.gmail.com>

We need PSAT IGates in Hawaii, India, China and anywhere in the Southern
Hempsiphere.

We did a look at the IGates that are successfully injecting PSAT packets
and did a map of them on the PSAT page:



http://aprs.org/psat.html



Notice that this map of stations are not all of the IGATES on 145.825 which
includes the ISS, but this is because the ISS is 14 dB stronger than PSAT.
So a station with an omni terrestrial antenna that picks up the ISS just
fine may not hear PSAT at all.



So if you have ever thought about being a satellite IGate, now is the
time.  And the ideal OMNI antenna for PSAT is a simple 19.5? vertical whip
over a large metal ground plane.  An even better one (+2 dB)  is a ? wave
vertical whip (58?) over a large metal ground plane.  And it is OK to keep
this antenna lower to the ground since it will not hear anything below 25
degrees anyway and in fact, the lower it is, with surroundings blocking it,
the less interference it will have.



IGATES that hear weak signal PSAT show on http://pcsat.aprs.org

All 145.825 IGATES show on the http://ariss.net page but they may not hear
PSAT.



Another reason to keep your Space IGATE antenna low is because they create
DONUT Hole Data NULLS.  Anyone who transmits a packet on the UPLINK TO one
of these sateliltes and is heard by an IGATE direct, will be ignored on the
downlink, since the packet has already been heard.  Therefere the digipeat
will not be recorded by the above FINDU.COM pages?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org
*Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.  The downlink capture on
the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture
any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.  Although PSAT supports
the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without
changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we
figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.  This morning we sent
the commands and will be watching to see if they work.  If they did, then
PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS
POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE
of that orbit, the clock is totally off.  SO instead of going from 0 to 95
minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00
to 61 on every orbit.  And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the
equator (actually 5 South latitude)  on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it
will be able to report its own position.  And we can activate its attitude
control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Thu Jun 18 18:44:59 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:44:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV 1826Z pass
Message-ID: <558311AB.8040105@coloradosatellite.com>

Thanks to K8YSE for letting me know I was making it.... no others on the 
pass.

Next pass should be lots of US in the footprint. This will be our last 
pass of the expedition.

Jim

From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Jun 18 18:48:37 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:48:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 PSK31 on Field Day
Message-ID: <CABzOSOp3tTY7Apcp0K7U4vMCKzUA0Rj2vn398kdxDjKKE1zCOw@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone planning on including the NO-84 PSK31 transponder in their
Field Day satellite station plans?

It may be tough since the terrestrial PSK31 segment will be filled
with terrestrial signals and it might be tough to pick out satellite
signals, but maybe night time passes when 10m is closed will work
well.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Thu Jun 18 18:50:17 2015
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:50:17 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
In-Reply-To: <78799d6c6a8d4cd656f067dee5ed491a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78799d6c6a8d4cd656f067dee5ed491a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003701d0a9f7$9f173960$dd45ac20$@de>

... and here can you find a great idea for a nice weekend-project - APRS IGate with Raspberry Pi and DVB-T dongle

http://www.kubonweb.de/?p=130

73 Mike
DK3WN



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Robert Bruninga
Gesendet: 18 June 2015 18:14
An: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Betreff: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed

We need PSAT IGates in Hawaii, India, China and anywhere in the Southern Hempsiphere.

We did a look at the IGates that are successfully injecting PSAT packets and did a map of them on the PSAT page:



http://aprs.org/psat.html



Notice that this map of stations are not all of the IGATES on 145.825 which includes the ISS, but this is because the ISS is 14 dB stronger than PSAT.
So a station with an omni terrestrial antenna that picks up the ISS just fine may not hear PSAT at all.



So if you have ever thought about being a satellite IGate, now is the time.  And the ideal OMNI antenna for PSAT is a simple 19.5? vertical whip over a large metal ground plane.  An even better one (+2 dB)  is a ? wave vertical whip (58?) over a large metal ground plane.  And it is OK to keep this antenna lower to the ground since it will not hear anything below 25 degrees anyway and in fact, the lower it is, with surroundings blocking it, the less interference it will have.



IGATES that hear weak signal PSAT show on http://pcsat.aprs.org

All 145.825 IGATES show on the http://ariss.net page but they may not hear PSAT.



Another reason to keep your Space IGATE antenna low is because they create DONUT Hole Data NULLS.  Anyone who transmits a packet on the UPLINK TO one of these sateliltes and is heard by an IGATE direct, will be ignored on the downlink, since the packet has already been heard.  Therefere the digipeat will not be recorded by the above FINDU.COM pages?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org
*Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.  The downlink capture on the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.  Although PSAT supports the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.  This morning we sent the commands and will be watching to see if they work.  If they did, then PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE of that orbit, the clock is totally off.  SO instead of going from 0 to 95 minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00 to 61 on every orbit.  And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the equator (actually 5 South latitude)  on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it will be able to report its own position.  And we can activate its attitude control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR
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From wa4sca at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 19:03:41 2015
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:03:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 PSK31 on Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOp3tTY7Apcp0K7U4vMCKzUA0Rj2vn398kdxDjKKE1zCOw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOp3tTY7Apcp0K7U4vMCKzUA0Rj2vn398kdxDjKKE1zCOw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d0a9f9$7e2f3c00$7a8db400$@GMAIL.COM>

Paul,

Another plug for computer frequency control.  They will be the vertical ones.  :)

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA




<-----Original Message-----
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<Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:49 PM
<To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
<Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 PSK31 on Field Day
<
<Is anyone planning on including the NO-84 PSK31 transponder in their
<Field Day satellite station plans?
<
<It may be tough since the terrestrial PSK31 segment will be filled
<with terrestrial signals and it might be tough to pick out satellite
<signals, but maybe night time passes when 10m is closed will work
<well.
<
<73,
<
<Paul, N8HM
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From rgoldham at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 18 20:07:31 2015
From: rgoldham at sbcglobal.net (Ronald Oldham)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:07:31 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8RO/P Operations
Message-ID: <1434658051.66459.YahooMailBasic@web181504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I will be on a road trip during the period June 22 ? July 4 2015. I plan to operate portable from EM50, EM84, EM99, FN13, FM28, FM04, EL79, EL49 and possibly other grids along the way. I will operate on SO-50 and FO-29. I hope to contact many of you during the trip.

73,

Ron ? N8RO


From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Thu Jun 18 20:36:33 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:36:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV 2012Z PASS
Message-ID: <55832BD1.9000205@coloradosatellite.com>

Worked the following:

KE8AKW
WA4SCA
K4FEG
W0DHB
N0LM
K0MDJ (MPJ?), can't ready my scribble
AJ9K

Thanks to everyone who worked us. This was our last pass of the 
expedition. We will scramble to take down and pack up antennas in the 
morning and must have the crate sealed by noon - with the Arrow inside.  
In the afternoon and evening we will operate HF with equipment that 
stays here at Gingerbread Hill, then leave very early Saturday.

73,

Jim
VP2MJW (WD0E) operating VP2MKV(HF and sat)  and VP2MTT (6 meters - where 
we have am amazing 502 contacts)



From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Fri Jun 19 01:58:46 2015
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:58:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Message-ID: <3F7E9A90DFEB47EBB51A6192F56176AA@AA5PKPC>

Worked Yuri on SO-50.  He was in EL83.  Maritime Traffic oddly shows his destination as "La Habana."

From gamiller1 at suddenlink.net  Fri Jun 19 01:52:45 2015
From: gamiller1 at suddenlink.net (Glenn A. Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:52:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Message-ID: <0AC4DD39BFBA491CAE201F5E8BF4BBE7@AA5PKPC>

Worked Yuri on SO-50.  He was in EL83.  Maritime Traffic oddly shows his destination as "La Habana."

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 03:50:03 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 23:50:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYtSNDfM+3dqVhORmfWHX33TF1=-c=QMGn99Go9wU9_1rg@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, worked him as well in EL83, near cuba havvana... Hope he gets active
again, I have 25+ grids still unconfirmed with him!

73 KE8AKW

From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 12:41:38 2015
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 07:41:38 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYtSNDfM+3dqVhORmfWHX33TF1=-c=QMGn99Go9wU9_1rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYtSNDfM+3dqVhORmfWHX33TF1=-c=QMGn99Go9wU9_1rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPovOweHu=_jjSp_emKDh-jXtTiXkk+H8F3q67yogAkwDmUVxA@mail.gmail.com>

Nick,

Yuri and I had a PSK31 QSO yesterday on 20m.  He indicated his next
destination would be New Orleans, Louisiana.  After that port, his
plans take him home after a trans-Atlantic voyage.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, worked him as well in EL83, near cuba havvana... Hope he gets active
> again, I have 25+ grids still unconfirmed with him!
>
> 73 KE8AKW
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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 15:05:42 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:05:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYv38LDK17wXfjUzSNo93bny4W+Lxb3hWHhCvdQXNtYHWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for info Clayton, If I get all these grids confirmed from him, I can
get VUCC Satellite... My dad needs VUCC in Satellite and in vhf/uhf as
well...

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jun 19 15:36:43 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:36:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge
In-Reply-To: 7782ba6049ec6556a76d52eab50defb8@mail.gmail.com
References: 7782ba6049ec6556a76d52eab50defb8@mail.gmail.com
Message-ID: <7a7a0d9b97fe8c94316e6c1291d5c1cd@mail.gmail.com>

We successfully sent commands to re-write PSAT EPROM values to correct the
Orbit clock.  It worked.  Over a few days, we will fine tune the value and
be able to turn on PSAT Position reporting.



In looking at the orbit timing, we also came up with these factoids.



PSAT passes are almost exacrtly 15 minutes earlier every day. (14.7 minutes
actually)

And the time between orbits is almost exactly 100 minutes (1 hour 40
minutes).



You can use these to plan your ?free time?? without needin? no stinkin?
computer



Bob, Wb4APR

An aging Luddite





*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org
*Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.  The downlink capture on
the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture
any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.  Although PSAT supports
the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without
changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we
figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.  This morning we sent
the commands and will be watching to see if they work.  If they did, then
PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS
POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE
of that orbit, the clock is totally off.  SO instead of going from 0 to 95
minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00
to 61 on every orbit.  And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the
equator (actually 5 South latitude)  on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it
will be able to report its own position.  And we can activate its attitude
control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR

From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 15:39:48 2015
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:39:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYv38LDK17wXfjUzSNo93bny4W+Lxb3hWHhCvdQXNtYHWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYv38LDK17wXfjUzSNo93bny4W+Lxb3hWHhCvdQXNtYHWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FdKnB+DJratzvJgSx5et-CmofS_-xymt19Vax_5MQtxeg@mail.gmail.com>

Nick,

Double check ARRL rules about /MM grids for awards.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4

From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun 19 15:50:14 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:50:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FdKnB+DJratzvJgSx5et-CmofS_-xymt19Vax_5MQtxeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYv38LDK17wXfjUzSNo93bny4W+Lxb3hWHhCvdQXNtYHWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FdKnB+DJratzvJgSx5et-CmofS_-xymt19Vax_5MQtxeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOr_BgYfpvb5KccRoDvPDia9pF-noQAVPrb=au762WBjBQ@mail.gmail.com>

/MM grids are valid for VUCC...otherwise why would we all be getting
up at all hours of the night to work him in different ones?

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> Double check ARRL rules about /MM grids for awards.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Samsung S4
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From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Fri Jun 19 15:53:49 2015
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:53:49 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FdKnB+DJratzvJgSx5et-CmofS_-xymt19Vax_5MQtxeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYv38LDK17wXfjUzSNo93bny4W+Lxb3hWHhCvdQXNtYHWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FdKnB+DJratzvJgSx5et-CmofS_-xymt19Vax_5MQtxeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000DC8B2AC8346D1BAE56F0A4170B3EA@AA5PKPC>

>From http://www.arrl.org/files/file/DXCC/VHF%20UHF%20Rules20141pdf.pdf

"Contacts with aeronautical mobiles (in the air) do NOT count, but maritime mobiles are okay."



-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:39 AM 
To: Nicholas Mahr 
Cc: AMSAT -BB 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm 

Nick,

Double check ARRL rules about /MM grids for awards.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 15:52:39 2015
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:52:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOr_BgYfpvb5KccRoDvPDia9pF-noQAVPrb=au762WBjBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYv38LDK17wXfjUzSNo93bny4W+Lxb3hWHhCvdQXNtYHWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FdKnB+DJratzvJgSx5et-CmofS_-xymt19Vax_5MQtxeg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOr_BgYfpvb5KccRoDvPDia9pF-noQAVPrb=au762WBjBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9Ff3pNVypYUjHkN3pX6szi9R5trGrcM9t92po9g2Kkuq6w@mail.gmail.com>

Good question Paul, but I thought I had read somewhere that they weren't.
I'm more than happy to be corrected.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4

From kx9x at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 19 15:52:40 2015
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:52:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOr_BgYfpvb5KccRoDvPDia9pF-noQAVPrb=au762WBjBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOr_BgYfpvb5KccRoDvPDia9pF-noQAVPrb=au762WBjBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1703041505.1925330.1434729160611.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Indeed. They most definitely count for VUCC.
?Sean Kutzko
Amateur Radio KX9X
      From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
 To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> 
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> 
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
   
/MM grids are valid for VUCC...otherwise why would we all be getting
up at all hours of the night to work him in different ones?

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> Double check ARRL rules about /MM grids for awards.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Samsung S4
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 15:54:30 2015
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:54:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/mm
In-Reply-To: <1703041505.1925330.1434729160611.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CABzOSOr_BgYfpvb5KccRoDvPDia9pF-noQAVPrb=au762WBjBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1703041505.1925330.1434729160611.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FdTs9bn553-fxf4bTruAb6x6aPf45=CHqRu36eXXiMf5g@mail.gmail.com>

I was wrong once before, but realized it was just a mistake ;)

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4

From dave at w0dhb.net  Fri Jun 19 16:19:38 2015
From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:19:38 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW and NO-83,84
Message-ID: <004301d0aaab$bdccf5c0$3966e140$@w0dhb.net>

The latest LoTW config file allows LoTW to recognize NO-83 and NO-84.

 

Running TSQL 2.0.1 and above will bring up a menu to let you update.

 

You don't see the update option if uploading from logging software.

 

Dave

W0DHB

 


From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jun 19 19:56:15 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:56:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page
Message-ID: <bb7410a8f8945f108d9463042afd8627@mail.gmail.com>

Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the opposite
of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the following WEB
page:



http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html



It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of a
full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no moving
parts.  It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its IGates is
probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite receiver system
in the world (?).



But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few IGates
can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to horizon on a
whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we need more SatGates to
make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA we need more than a dozen
such Omni-SATgates.



To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING IGates
or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want these running
24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors when an omni will do
fine (if we have enough).



The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking any
nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS cloud
satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low to
everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.



If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time, then
just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the low
antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.  Put
the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31 comes
into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!



Bob, WB4APR

From GW1FKY at aol.com  Sat Jun 20 09:52:01 2015
From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 05:52:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Missing from Kep's list.
Message-ID: <105043.2e6c1d44.42b691c1@aol.com>

Hi,
I noted that in latest Kep's distribution list and also on the web  page    
-  AO -7 has been omitted for some reason.
I did post to Ray my observation but had no response - Perhaps filtered to  
stop him getting unwanted posting.
Using SATPC-32  it did cause a slight problem due to the fact the  
satellites set up the boxes for tracking
and countdown got out of order.
I cut and pasted into my list,  AO-7 keps from the Celestrak web site  and 
it corrected the problem
Regards
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat- UK
Amsat NA
 

From jimlist at zoho.com  Sat Jun 20 10:29:20 2015
From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:29:20 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change
In-Reply-To: <557B3EBA.1070203@milnet.uk.net>
References: <DD357FA95DBC4C89A3D19AAB4EF3BFED@allgood.local>
	<55282E67.7020104@zoho.com> <553AB7FC.9040508@zoho.com>
	<5543FCD1.8040305@zoho.com> <554DCF7F.6000206@zoho.com>
	<5555C08F.9060506@zoho.com> <555F9DB6.6020704@zoho.com>
	<557B3EBA.1070203@milnet.uk.net>
Message-ID: <55854080.50804@zoho.com>

Hi All,

Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 1125 UTC) been 
commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to 
autonomous mode on Sunday pm.

   Apols for not being able to switch last night, due to priorities on 
command stations, other commitments, etc

Have FUN! And have a good Field Day in the USA!

73

Jim G3WGM




From wb3csy at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 11:13:51 2015
From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 07:13:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] DYI Comms and Control for Amateur Space ...
References: <2A96CEFB-A190-402B-B4AA-89B85C1DBC5C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1C1AB167-FB1A-4B80-A888-509E8EF546AA@gmail.com>

Just received this ad from Amazon this morning. I thought the group may like to see what is out there. 
Rick - WB3CSY

> 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1449310664/ref=mp_s_a_1_sc_1?qid=1434798241&sr=8-1-spell&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=DYI+comms+and+control
> 

From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Sat Jun 20 13:13:59 2015
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:13:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Missing from Kep's list.
In-Reply-To: <105043.2e6c1d44.42b691c1@aol.com>
References: <105043.2e6c1d44.42b691c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <55856717.7010000@alum.wpi.edu>

Thanks for the note, Ken.

N8HM alerted me to the problem yesterday morning, and I added elements for AO-7 to http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt which in turn added AO-7 to the pass predictions page.  I am sure Ray will have the problem rectified by the time next week's bulletins go out.


-Joe KM1P




From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar  Sat Jun 20 14:08:51 2015
From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:08:51 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] rx PSAT
Message-ID: <B50905AC668D499887070E00AEE761B1@PC1>

2:Fm LU1WFU-2 To APU25N Via PSAT*,ARISS*,RS0ISS,WIDE3-3 <UI R Pid=F0 Len=61> [10:53:53R]
}LW8EXS>APU25N,TCPIP,LU1WFU-2*:=3439.49S/05924.35W- {UIV32N}

2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [10:53:54R]
T#739,839,352,120,121,391,00000000

2:Fm PSAT To APRSON Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=34> [10:56:57R]
T#742,860,070,120,121,390,00000000

From james at wx4tv.com  Sat Jun 20 21:38:48 2015
From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:38:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] QSL Cards
Message-ID: <F9C45AEB-2602-4CF4-B2D9-BFC96D044ED1@wx4tv.com>

The kids and I have worked dozens of stations and received nearly as many QSL cards. Rest assured they will be answered. 
We are in the process of a multi-part long distance move and once we find a home and are settled in, each contact in all our logs will be confirmed. 

As time allows, I'm starting a business in central Florida, I will get all of us set up with LOTW. 

Thanks for understanding!

73,

WX4TV
KM4IPF
WA4BBC (AE4FH)
WX4TVJ

James Lea
Sent from my iPhone

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sun Jun 21 00:15:21 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:15:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Impromptu Grid DXpedition: KL7CN/W6 at CN80 on SO-50 at
	02:37Z with LotW Confirmation
Message-ID: <B4F018CE-3771-4BDB-BA7A-63ED5056E11C@kl7cn.net>

Hello, all:

Sorry for the short notice -- we'll be active as follows: 

QTH: CN80 in Northern California
Satellite: SO-50 
Date and time: Today 2015-06-21 02:37Z
Confirmation: LotW, etc.

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sun Jun 21 06:37:26 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:37:26 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Impromptu Grid DXpedition: KL7CN/W6 at CN80 on SO-50
	at 02:37Z with LotW Confirmation
In-Reply-To: <B4F018CE-3771-4BDB-BA7A-63ED5056E11C@kl7cn.net>
References: <B4F018CE-3771-4BDB-BA7A-63ED5056E11C@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <0E0392EB-94F9-4079-AA72-B13A34029F04@kl7cn.net>

Confirmed QSOs with the following 13 stations from CN80 today on 02:37Z pass of SO-50:

KO6TZ
W0DHB
F6FW
KB6LTY
W5CBF
W5PFG
N6UK
KB0RZD
WA5KBH
KE8AKW
KG5CCI
NX9B
KB1RVT

Uploaded to LotW using callsign KL7CN/W6

The thing I like best about SO-50 is that there are always plenty of new operators.
The think I like least about SO-50 is that it is difficult to get to everyone. There were a couple of stations that I just could not hear completely. That's how it goes!
Another thing I like about SO-50 is how the signal picks up just at LOS! Stay on it until the end! You never know who is going to be there!

73!

-- bag

Bryan KLCN

On Jun 20, 2015, at 17:15, Bryan Green <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:

Hello, all:

Sorry for the short notice -- we'll be active as follows: 

QTH: CN80 in Northern California
Satellite: SO-50 
Date and time: Today 2015-06-21 02:37Z
Confirmation: LotW, etc.

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sun Jun 21 06:44:43 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:44:43 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Impromptu Grid DXpedition: KL7CN/W6 at CN80 on SO-50
	at 02:37Z with LotW Confirmation
In-Reply-To: <0E0392EB-94F9-4079-AA72-B13A34029F04@kl7cn.net>
References: <B4F018CE-3771-4BDB-BA7A-63ED5056E11C@kl7cn.net>
	<0E0392EB-94F9-4079-AA72-B13A34029F04@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <7CF4816D-9F34-4A88-8614-E70F81C08D70@kl7cn.net>

And of course I meant Frank K6FW (and not F6FW). 73, Frank!

-- bag

On Jun 20, 2015, at 23:37, Bryan Green <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:

Confirmed QSOs with the following 13 stations from CN80 today on 02:37Z pass of SO-50:

KO6TZ
W0DHB
F6FW
KB6LTY
W5CBF
W5PFG
N6UK
KB0RZD
WA5KBH
KE8AKW
KG5CCI
NX9B
KB1RVT

Uploaded to LotW using callsign KL7CN/W6

The thing I like best about SO-50 is that there are always plenty of new operators.
The think I like least about SO-50 is that it is difficult to get to everyone. There were a couple of stations that I just could not hear completely. That's how it goes!
Another thing I like about SO-50 is how the signal picks up just at LOS! Stay on it until the end! You never know who is going to be there!

73!

-- bag

Bryan KLCN

On Jun 20, 2015, at 17:15, Bryan Green <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:

Hello, all:

Sorry for the short notice -- we'll be active as follows: 

QTH: CN80 in Northern California
Satellite: SO-50 
Date and time: Today 2015-06-21 02:37Z
Confirmation: LotW, etc.

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
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From ku4os at cfl.rr.com  Sun Jun 21 11:44:23 2015
From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 07:44:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-172  AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <5586A397.2020101@cfl.rr.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-172

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* 2015 Candidates for the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Announced
* 20th 73 on 73 Award Issued
* International Space Colloquium at Guildford July 24-26
* QB50p2 FM Transponder Tested
* NASA Drafts Solicitation for New Class of Launch Services
* NASA, UN Photo Competition Highlights Why Space Matters on Earth


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-172.01
ANS-172 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 172.01
  From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD.
June 21, 2015
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-172.01

2015 Candidates for the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Announced

The 2015 candidates, in alphabetical order by last names are:

Barry Baines                WD4ASW
Jerry Buxton             N0JY
Steve Coy            K8UD
Drew Glasbrenner        KO4MA
Mark Hammond                 N8MH
EMike McCardel                KC8YLD
Bob McGwier            N4HY
Bruce Paige            KK5DO

This year AMSAT-NA will be electing four voting members of the Board of
Directors.  These will go to the four candidates receiving the highest 
number of
votes.  In addition, there will be two alternates chosen, based on the next
highest number of votes received.

Ballots will be mailed to the AMSAT-NA membership by 15 JUL 2015 and must be
received at the AMSAT office by 15 SEP 2015 in order to be counted. 
Those sent
outside North America will go by air mail. If you have not received your 
ballot
package in a reasonable time for your QTH, please contact the AMSAT office.
Completed ballots should be returned as promptly as possible, and those from
outside North American preferably by air mail.

Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an 
opportunity by our
membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT.  Please take the 
time to
review the candidate statements that will accompany the ballot and 
determine who
you wish to see on the Board.  You have the option to vote for up to four
candidates.

[ANS thanks Alan, WA4SCA, for the above information]


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20th 73 on 73 Award Issued

Congratulations to Davide D'Aliesio, IW0HLG, for working 73 different
stations on AO-73 since September 1, 2014 and becoming the 20th
recipient of the 73 on 73 Award.

For more information on the award see
http://amsat-uk.org/funcube/73-on-73-award/

[ANS thanks Paul, N8HM, for the above information]


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International Space Colloquium at Guildford July 24-26

The AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium will be held on July 24-26 
at the
Holiday Inn, Guildford, GU2 7XZ, UK.

Among the speakers will be:
    * Peter Guelzow DB2OS with an update on AMSAT-DL projects, including the
    Phase 4 satellite

    * Chris Brunskill, formerly of Surrey Space Centre (SSC), now 
working at the
    Space Catapult at the Harwell Campus. He will be presenting an extremely
    novel project aimed at schools and education

    * It is hoped the BATC will be able to demonstrate live Digital TV 
reception
    from the International Space Station, using the Ham TV system

    * Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, from AMSAT North America will be 
attending, and
    presenting the latest news of the FOX satellite(s) due for launch 
later this
    year, and also on their Phase 4 project

The Colloquium is open to all further information is at
http://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/

[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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QB50p2 FM Transponder Tested

AMSAT-Francophone report that the FM transponder on QB50p2 (EO-80) has been
tested. A Google English translation of the post on their website reads:

On June 19, 2014, two 2U CubeSats QB50p1 and QB50p2 were launched as 
part of the
QB50 precursor program into a polar orbit at an altitude of 680 km.

The satellite QB50p2 (object 40032) is equipped with a secondary FM 
transponder
payload developed by AMSAT-F.

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 almost 1 year after launch the AMSAT-F FM 
transponder
on QB50p2 was activated by the main control station in The Netherlands 
for the
duration of an orbit. At the Polytechnique in Palaiseau, we were able to 
receive
telemetry in CW and put into action the FM transponder with an output of 
1.5W.

A very strong signal was received at Palaiseau and by F6HCC in Brittany. The
transponder was turned off at the end of the orbit.

In a few weeks, the transponder should be activated permanently. The 
signal is
very strong, we will probably use a lower power level of 500 mW or 1 
watt. We
will inform you later.

QB50p1 (EO-79 / FUNcube-3) is equipped with a linear transponder for SSB 
and CW.
The first tests were successfully completed in April and its transponder 
should
also be enabled full-time in a few weeks.

G?rard ? F6FAO

QB50 Amateur Radio Information
https://www.qb50.eu/index.php/precursor-amateur-radio-operator

AMSAT-Francophone http://tinyurl.com/AMSAT-Francophone

The IARU Satellite Frequency Coordination Panel Status pages list these
frequencies for the two satellites:

QB50p2 has  a VHF 9600 bps BPSK telemetry downlink plus a separate RF 
payload
from AMSAT-Francophone which will comprise of a FM voice transponder 
with UHF
uplink and VHF downlink. It can also transmit FX25 telemetry at 9600 bps.
   * 145.880 MHz 9600 bps BPSK telemetry beacon
   * 145.840 MHz 9600 bps FSK FX25

[ANS thanks Gerard, F6FAO and AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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NASA Drafts Solicitation for New Class of Launch Services

NASA?s Launch Services Program has issued a draft Request for Proposal 
(RFP) for
a new Venture Class Launch Services (VCLS), which would be commercial launch
services for small satellites and experiments on science missions using a
smaller than currently available class of rockets.

At present, launch opportunities for small satellites -- often called 
CubeSats
or nanosatellites -- and small science missions are mostly limited to 
ride-share
type arrangements, flying only when space is available on NASA and other
launches. The Launch Services Program seeks to develop alternatives to this
approach and help foster other launch services dedicated to transporting 
smaller
payloads into orbit. The services acquired through such a contract will
constitute the smallest class of launch services used by NASA.

This solicitation, and resulting contract or contracts, is intended to
demonstrate a dedicated launch capability for smaller payloads that NASA
anticipates it will require on a recurring basis for future science and 
CubeSat
missions. CubeSats already are used in markets, such as imagery 
collection and
analysis. In the future, CubeSat capabilities will include abilities, 
such as
ship and aircraft tracking, improved weather prediction, and broader 
Internet
coverage.

NASA intends to award one or more firm fixed-price VCLS contracts to 
accommodate
132 pounds (60 kilograms) of CubeSats a single launch or two launches 
carrying
66 pounds (30 kilograms) each. The launch provider will determine the launch
location and date, but the launch must occur by April 15, 2018.

[ANS thanks NASA Launch Services for the above information]


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NASA, UN Photo Competition Highlights Why Space Matters on Earth

NASA and the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA)
have launched a global photography competition to highlight how the
vantage point of space helps us better understand our home planet,
improve lives, and safeguard our future by aiding sustainable
development on Earth.

To highlight the role of space-based science and technologies and
their applications on Earth, NASA and UNOOSA are inviting the public
to submit photos depicting why space matters to us all in our daily
lives. To participate, post a picture and description on Instagram
using the hashtag #whyspacematters and tagging @UNOOSA.

NASA astronaut Scott Kelly, who is three months into a one-year
mission aboard the International Space Station, will announce the
winning photo each month by posting it from his Instagram account
@StationCDRKelly.

Kelly and Russian Cosmonaut Mikhail Kornienko are spending a year in
space to improve our understanding of the medical, psychological and
biomedical challenges faced by astronauts during long-duration
spaceflight. Kelly will set a single-mission record for a U.S.
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From n5uxt at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 21 13:43:15 2015
From: n5uxt at hotmail.com (Angelo Glorioso)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:43:15 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/MM
Message-ID: <BAY173-W2464A3B753832E7319E2EFEDA20@phx.gbl>



 Gm All,
  I wanted to let everyone know that UT1FG/MM Yuri is in EL59 right now.  Due to his short time here,he will be unable to visit with anyone.
  I have been talk to him on my repeater on 444.950  PL 114.8. He will be listening on and off.
All are welcome to connect.
Echolink node :  838977 IRLP: 3914ALLSTAR :29734Dstar Bridge XREF 048B - allstar.n5uxt.net Module B.
 Alll of these are linked together. Feel free to give him a call.

Best of 73,

Angelo


 

 

--------------------------------------------------------- 

If you don't ask, you will never know!!
 		 	   		  

From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu  Sun Jun 21 15:19:38 2015
From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 11:19:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder doubt
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpKzooWnEH+4SaXhssJsd8ojgWQ96+i2LA3snvXaaVuaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYsX4MBpWAcos4nWCbj2Ca+d5LsfEBC-4LB5szAKj=_iKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOpKzooWnEH+4SaXhssJsd8ojgWQ96+i2LA3snvXaaVuaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5586D60A.5090204@frcuba.co.cu>

I have a doubt...

A few days ago Paul put a list of the proposed channel for EO-80..

I have noted that the TX freqs are from lower to higher (AOS to LOS), is 
that correct?

 From the sat point of view a Tx on the center freq will appears as 
shifted up at the AOS because the two point are getting closer (doppler 
is summing), in fact no matter is the freq is for TX or RX if at AOS the 
shift must be + not -

I'm right?

PS: with the 2.5 Khz of the new Chinese radios the 2m downlink can be 
shifted to +2.5 Khz at AOS and -2.5 Khz at LOS to improve reception quality

El 17/06/15 a las 12:59, Paul Stoetzer escibi?:
> Anyone who wants to program memories for EO-80 should follow this plan:
>
> EO-80 AOS - TX 435.070 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
> EO-80 2      -  TX 435.075 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
> EO-80 TCA  -  TX 435.080 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
> EO-80 4      -  TX 435.085 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
> EO-80 LOS -  TX 435.090 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz

From ka2pbt at amsat.org  Sun Jun 21 15:29:00 2015
From: ka2pbt at amsat.org (ka2pbt)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:29:00 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Crossed Yagi boom separation
Message-ID: <CAE1O4xpUw5FwPb6Dw_kYCuaBVrUgHKsD_NMZ=A3dnLdZZcaHzQ@mail.gmail.com>

HI all .... I'm setting up a field day station with my old 2M & 70CM
Cushcraft crossed yagis ....

Assuming a NON-metallic cross boom, neglecting structural constraints, how
far from the center (i.e. elevation rotor and vertical mast) should the
antennas be mounted?

My google juice isn't working this morning ... but I seem to recall >= 1/2
Wavelength being sufficent.

Thanks,

--> Rob, KA2PBT

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Jun 21 15:52:08 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 11:52:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 glitch over North America
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqK_X=M_v1n0VNvo4WJVNxFqyE4MF=copg+Eu4P5p1VHA@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning,

At around 1533Z, while the satellite was over North America, the AO-73
transponder switched off. The satellite continued to send telemetry,
but from checking the Data Warehouse, it seems all the values are way
off.

The beacon was quite strong, so it may have been transmitting full
power telemetry.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 17:19:46 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:19:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 glitch over North America
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYvr4SdM0Gr163b_E_fP24Xu80TC-90r7FHHNYAaFVLkKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Nothing heard from AO-73 17:08 UTC pass in the middle of NA... I did hear a
some what of a hetradime sound at the beacon frequency, and it was moving
and when i pointed the antenna away from AO-73, it got weaker. Hopefully
all it needs is a reset.

From oh2fqv at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 17:25:14 2015
From: oh2fqv at gmail.com (OH2FQV / Jari)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:25:14 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 glitch over North America -and Finland
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYvr4SdM0Gr163b_E_fP24Xu80TC-90r7FHHNYAaFVLkKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYvr4SdM0Gr163b_E_fP24Xu80TC-90r7FHHNYAaFVLkKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5586F37A.5010909@gmail.com>

16:50 UTC pass over the Finland was silent. No detectable signals within 
AO-73 bandwidth

Regards,

:Jari / OH2FQV

On 21.6.2015 20:19, Nicholas Mahr wrote:
> Hello,
> Nothing heard from AO-73 17:08 UTC pass in the middle of NA... I did hear a
> some what of a hetradime sound at the beacon frequency, and it was moving
> and when i pointed the antenna away from AO-73, it got weaker. Hopefully
> all it needs is a reset.
>


From ve6itv at telus.net  Sun Jun 21 20:00:25 2015
From: ve6itv at telus.net (Scott Smith)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:00:25 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd
Message-ID: <A87462A035C341AEA0C2299F00A010BD@VE6IVMain>

Hi, I fired up  my SatPC32 in the wrong order from the way I usually do it, I usually turn on radio and my LVB tracker first then fire up the computer. The LVB  works fine,but I got a message ?could not open Com3 and to check if It was available? this is weird as this laptop is dedicated only for satellite use, and I have not changed anything. I use a Kenwwod IF232r between my computer and my TS790a radio. I opened the device manager and it says for the FT232r USB UART ?the drivers for this device are not installed (Code 28). I tried to downoard the driver from ZLP and it still does not work?, any ideas? Tnx in advance. 73 de VE6ITV Scott 

From wouterweg at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 20:31:53 2015
From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:31:53 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
Message-ID: <CAKXf1rGM-shNOUw24VTB+KQCFwGYDRfu4sLYL+_k1qH9ib3iPg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

We have had an anomaly on FUNcube-1 that required us to reboot the
satellites MCU (Microcontroller).

After a bus freeze, the databus watchdog did kick in as expected and
rebooted the satellite. However, we did need to command the satellite back
on to automatic mode.

When we did so on the 20:00 UTC pass, it came back up in the correct mode.

We envisage to switch back to autonomous mode either tonight or tomorrow
morning local time.

FUNcube is still happy and healthy. This is the 4th reboot since launch, of
which one was intentional. Thanks for your reports and concerns.

On behalf of the whole team best 73s,

Wouter Weggelaar
PA3WEG
FUNcube team

From jeff_griffin at comcast.net  Sun Jun 21 20:38:18 2015
From: jeff_griffin at comcast.net (Jeff)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:38:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd
In-Reply-To: <A87462A035C341AEA0C2299F00A010BD@VE6IVMain>
References: <A87462A035C341AEA0C2299F00A010BD@VE6IVMain>
Message-ID: <96BF196EE5EF4300ACF98D83C24E8B57@kb2m4PC>

I feel your pain Scotty, I  have a similar problem with my 9100, LVB, and 
SatPC32. In my case the LVB would show a memory error and I would lose 
calibration. Only way to fix would be a full re-calibration. This is a real 
pain to go through during a pass so I just remember to turn on the LVB, then 
the 9100, then bring up SatPC32. I know of no other way around this....

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message----- 
From: Scott Smith
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:00 PM
To: Amsat
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd

Hi, I fired up  my SatPC32 in the wrong order from the way I usually do it, 
I usually turn on radio and my LVB tracker first then fire up the computer. 
The LVB  works fine,but I got a message ?could not open Com3 and to check if 
It was available? this is weird as this laptop is dedicated only for 
satellite use, and I have not changed anything. I use a Kenwwod IF232r 
between my computer and my TS790a radio. I opened the device manager and it 
says for the FT232r USB UART ?the drivers for this device are not installed 
(Code 28). I tried to downoard the driver from ZLP and it still does not 
work?, any ideas? Tnx in advance. 73 de VE6ITV Scott
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From wouterweg at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 21:41:11 2015
From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:41:11 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
In-Reply-To: <CAKXf1rGM-shNOUw24VTB+KQCFwGYDRfu4sLYL+_k1qH9ib3iPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXf1rGM-shNOUw24VTB+KQCFwGYDRfu4sLYL+_k1qH9ib3iPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKXf1rGqsA4D55D9BYbX4DNPg-N3Ppi0Voh-PBH7M5wFDMe68Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I can also confirm FUNcube was switched back to autonomous mode around
21:38 UTC.

73s,

Wouter PA3WEG

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We have had an anomaly on FUNcube-1 that required us to reboot the
> satellites MCU (Microcontroller).
>
> After a bus freeze, the databus watchdog did kick in as expected and
> rebooted the satellite. However, we did need to command the satellite back
> on to automatic mode.
>
> When we did so on the 20:00 UTC pass, it came back up in the correct mode.
>
> We envisage to switch back to autonomous mode either tonight or tomorrow
> morning local time.
>
> FUNcube is still happy and healthy. This is the 4th reboot since launch,
> of which one was intentional. Thanks for your reports and concerns.
>
> On behalf of the whole team best 73s,
>
> Wouter Weggelaar
> PA3WEG
> FUNcube team
>

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 01:56:58 2015
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 18:56:58 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder doubt
In-Reply-To: <5586D60A.5090204@frcuba.co.cu>
References: <CAGu+VYsX4MBpWAcos4nWCbj2Ca+d5LsfEBC-4LB5szAKj=_iKg@mail.gmail.com>	<CABzOSOpKzooWnEH+4SaXhssJsd8ojgWQ96+i2LA3snvXaaVuaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5586D60A.5090204@frcuba.co.cu>
Message-ID: <55876B6A.4070904@gmail.com>

Yes, Pavel, but since the frequency heard by the satellite as it 
approaches is higher than what you sent, you need to send at a lower 
frequency to compensate.  The idea is that you want the frequency heard 
at the satellite to be constant.

As the satellite passes the midpoint, and recedes from view, the 
frequency it hears is lower than what you transmitted.  So you need to 
send at a higher frequency to compensate, again so that the satellite 
hears a constant signal.

So, during the pass your transmitter needs to go from lower to higher.

The physics works the same for your reception (it better!), but since 
the satellite isn't changing its frequency to be constant at your end, 
you need to move from higher (on approach) to lower (towards LOS) to 
conpensate.

Greg  KO6TH


Pavel Milanes Costa wrote:
> I have a doubt...
>
> A few days ago Paul put a list of the proposed channel for EO-80..
>
> I have noted that the TX freqs are from lower to higher (AOS to LOS), 
> is that correct?
>
> From the sat point of view a Tx on the center freq will appears as 
> shifted up at the AOS because the two point are getting closer 
> (doppler is summing), in fact no matter is the freq is for TX or RX if 
> at AOS the shift must be + not -
>
> I'm right?
>
> PS: with the 2.5 Khz of the new Chinese radios the 2m downlink can be 
> shifted to +2.5 Khz at AOS and -2.5 Khz at LOS to improve reception 
> quality
>
> El 17/06/15 a las 12:59, Paul Stoetzer escibi?:
>> Anyone who wants to program memories for EO-80 should follow this plan:
>>
>> EO-80 AOS - TX 435.070 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>> EO-80 2      -  TX 435.075 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>> EO-80 TCA  -  TX 435.080 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>> EO-80 4      -  TX 435.085 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>> EO-80 LOS -  TX 435.090 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
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From paulopv8dx at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 02:34:37 2015
From: paulopv8dx at gmail.com (Paulo PV8DX)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:34:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
In-Reply-To: <CAKXf1rGqsA4D55D9BYbX4DNPg-N3Ppi0Voh-PBH7M5wFDMe68Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXf1rGM-shNOUw24VTB+KQCFwGYDRfu4sLYL+_k1qH9ib3iPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKXf1rGqsA4D55D9BYbX4DNPg-N3Ppi0Voh-PBH7M5wFDMe68Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59E6A4E5AEF4427E8B6C75CCEFB34FC6@PAULOPV8DXPC>

HI, happy day

Passage now 02:16 UTC (22 june)
Contact PU2RAS and LU3EMB.
And to finish with WA5KBH to 02:26
100%  AO73.


73 de Paulo PV8DX
LABRE/ARRL
AMSAT-BR/AMSAT-NA member
FJ92pt - VUCC SAT
www.labre-rr.org
pv8dx at labre-rr.org
pv8dx at arrl.net

-----Mensagem Original----- 
From: Wouter Weggelaar
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:41 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot

Hi All,

I can also confirm FUNcube was switched back to autonomous mode around
21:38 UTC.

73s,

Wouter PA3WEG

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We have had an anomaly on FUNcube-1 that required us to reboot the
> satellites MCU (Microcontroller).
>
> After a bus freeze, the databus watchdog did kick in as expected and
> rebooted the satellite. However, we did need to command the satellite back
> on to automatic mode.
>
> When we did so on the 20:00 UTC pass, it came back up in the correct mode.
>
> We envisage to switch back to autonomous mode either tonight or tomorrow
> morning local time.
>
> FUNcube is still happy and healthy. This is the 4th reboot since launch,
> of which one was intentional. Thanks for your reports and concerns.
>
> On behalf of the whole team best 73s,
>
> Wouter Weggelaar
> PA3WEG
> FUNcube team
>
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From rwmcgwier at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 02:35:17 2015
From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:35:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Geosynchronous payload inches closer to reality
Message-ID: <CA+K5gzead-R9P0_+MNGyBcjYgq_tgXO2b-KcQ2rsbaM7-37jVA@mail.gmail.com>

Colonel Fred Kennedy,  USAF,  Space Production Division and Program Manager
for the Wide Field of View satellite (hereinafter WFOV) has accepted the
proposal to allow Virginia Tech to place a hosted payload consisting of a
Software Defined Radio designed and built by Rincon Research Corporation
using support equipment and antennas designed by Virginia Tech and other
volunteers to this effort.  The spacecraft hosted amateur payload will be
included in the Aquila M8 bus by Millennium Space Systems who is the
integrator for WFOV.  Our first role and immediate action item is to raise
the $100,000 for Millennium to complete the study of the inclusion of this
payload on Wide Field Of View.  Following successful completion of this
study,  Virginia Tech will raise money to defray the cost of integration
and launch of this payload.  After achieving orbit,  volunteers managed by
Sonya Rowe and Zach Leffke of Virginia Tech will operate the payload for as
long as it is over the US.  We at VT with the help of the ARRL will
 prepare partners in other regions to operate the spacecraft should it be
moved in order to allow the WFOV to accomplish its primary mission and be
prepared to take over operation of the hosted payload on its return to the
area of CONUS.

Colonel Kennedy told me how much he admires how unbelievably capable
amateurs around the world have been in their many organizations to get
spacecraft to orbit and wishes us the best of luck in the onerous task we
will have of raising $5M to get this on board.

I will be making many details public now that Colonel Kennedy has told us
we are a go if we raise the money.  I know this is a tall order but
(begging the forgiveness of our female audience members)  "A coward dies a
thousand deaths and a brave man dies only once".  I would rather go down
trying than cower in a closet.  This is not intended as casting aspersions
on any individual or organization just saying I must proceed hastily to
succeed at all and I cannot afford caution.


Let's GO!
Bob

-- 
Bob McGwier
Co-Founder and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC
Research Professor Virginia Tech
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)

From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 22 02:40:27 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:40:27 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
In-Reply-To: <59E6A4E5AEF4427E8B6C75CCEFB34FC6@PAULOPV8DXPC>
References: <CAKXf1rGM-shNOUw24VTB+KQCFwGYDRfu4sLYL+_k1qH9ib3iPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKXf1rGqsA4D55D9BYbX4DNPg-N3Ppi0Voh-PBH7M5wFDMe68Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<59E6A4E5AEF4427E8B6C75CCEFB34FC6@PAULOPV8DXPC>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpGgLYkdO50OiaPLd9xUTY40isEHYDT8+W00tcEwG-sig@mail.gmail.com>

I heard Paulo's QSO with WA5KBH at my AOS and called CQ for the next
three minutes until the satellite entered the sunlight. The satellite
sounded perfectly normal.

And now we are beyond the summer solstice in the Northern Hemisphere,
so available transponder time on weekday evening passes will start to
increase.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Paulo PV8DX <paulopv8dx at gmail.com> wrote:
> HI, happy day
>
> Passage now 02:16 UTC (22 june)
> Contact PU2RAS and LU3EMB.
> And to finish with WA5KBH to 02:26
> 100%  AO73.
>
>
> 73 de Paulo PV8DX
> LABRE/ARRL
> AMSAT-BR/AMSAT-NA member
> FJ92pt - VUCC SAT
> www.labre-rr.org
> pv8dx at labre-rr.org
> pv8dx at arrl.net
>
> -----Mensagem Original----- From: Wouter Weggelaar
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:41 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 glitch + commanded reboot
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I can also confirm FUNcube was switched back to autonomous mode around
> 21:38 UTC.
>
> 73s,
>
> Wouter PA3WEG
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We have had an anomaly on FUNcube-1 that required us to reboot the
>> satellites MCU (Microcontroller).
>>
>> After a bus freeze, the databus watchdog did kick in as expected and
>> rebooted the satellite. However, we did need to command the satellite back
>> on to automatic mode.
>>
>> When we did so on the 20:00 UTC pass, it came back up in the correct mode.
>>
>> We envisage to switch back to autonomous mode either tonight or tomorrow
>> morning local time.
>>
>> FUNcube is still happy and healthy. This is the 4th reboot since launch,
>> of which one was intentional. Thanks for your reports and concerns.
>>
>> On behalf of the whole team best 73s,
>>
>> Wouter Weggelaar
>> PA3WEG
>> FUNcube team
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Mon Jun 22 08:47:33 2015
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:47:33 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FC1 Warehouse recovery
Message-ID: <CAHOBG6WwJJQdjznsovL0QTfdP-zf8iWRPR8mms-vnDW1mCi37w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

If you look at the realtime data today, you may see that the MinMax
RealTime values are not populated we are fixing up the database as a result
of the erroneous values that were recorded between failure and recovery.

73


- Dave, G4DPZ

From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in  Mon Jun 22 10:52:55 2015
From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:52:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
In-Reply-To: <78799d6c6a8d4cd656f067dee5ed491a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78799d6c6a8d4cd656f067dee5ed491a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1980519883.2039722.1434970375127.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I will keep my satgate running from tomm. Can someone share the keps for PSAT as i see this is not yet available when I update TLE files in orbitron.?73
Nitin [VU3TYG]
 
      From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2015 9:44 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
   
We need PSAT IGates in Hawaii, India, China and anywhere in the Southern
Hempsiphere.

We did a look at the IGates that are successfully injecting PSAT packets
and did a map of them on the PSAT page:



http://aprs.org/psat.html



Notice that this map of stations are not all of the IGATES on 145.825 which
includes the ISS, but this is because the ISS is 14 dB stronger than PSAT.
So a station with an omni terrestrial antenna that picks up the ISS just
fine may not hear PSAT at all.



So if you have ever thought about being a satellite IGate, now is the
time.? And the ideal OMNI antenna for PSAT is a simple 19.5? vertical whip
over a large metal ground plane.? An even better one (+2 dB)? is a ? wave
vertical whip (58?) over a large metal ground plane.? And it is OK to keep
this antenna lower to the ground since it will not hear anything below 25
degrees anyway and in fact, the lower it is, with surroundings blocking it,
the less interference it will have.



IGATES that hear weak signal PSAT show on http://pcsat.aprs.org

All 145.825 IGATES show on the http://ariss.net page but they may not hear
PSAT.



Another reason to keep your Space IGATE antenna low is because they create
DONUT Hole Data NULLS.? Anyone who transmits a packet on the UPLINK TO one
of these sateliltes and is heard by an IGATE direct, will be ignored on the
downlink, since the packet has already been heard.? Therefere the digipeat
will not be recorded by the above FINDU.COM pages?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org
*Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.? The downlink capture on
the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture
any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.? Although PSAT supports
the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without
changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we
figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.? This morning we sent
the commands and will be watching to see if they work.? If they did, then
PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS
POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE
of that orbit, the clock is totally off.? SO instead of going from 0 to 95
minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00
to 61 on every orbit.? And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the
equator (actually 5 South latitude)? on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it
will be able to report its own position.? And we can activate its attitude
control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR
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From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Mon Jun 22 10:59:59 2015
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:59:59 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
In-Reply-To: <1980519883.2039722.1434970375127.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <78799d6c6a8d4cd656f067dee5ed491a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1980519883.2039722.1434970375127.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000301d0acda$952a74e0$bf7f5ea0$@de>

PSAT
1 90720U          15171.33822084 +.00014976 +00000-0 +39525-3 0 00448
2 90720 054.9963 206.9484 0244212 257.7905 099.527  15.13789412004657

73 Mike
DK3WN

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Nitin Muttin
Gesendet: 22 June 2015 12:53
An: Robert Bruninga; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed

I will keep my satgate running from tomm. Can someone share the keps for PSAT as i see this is not yet available when I update TLE files in orbitron. 73 Nitin [VU3TYG]
 
      From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
 Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2015 9:44 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
   
We need PSAT IGates in Hawaii, India, China and anywhere in the Southern Hempsiphere.

We did a look at the IGates that are successfully injecting PSAT packets and did a map of them on the PSAT page:



http://aprs.org/psat.html



Notice that this map of stations are not all of the IGATES on 145.825 which includes the ISS, but this is because the ISS is 14 dB stronger than PSAT.
So a station with an omni terrestrial antenna that picks up the ISS just fine may not hear PSAT at all.



So if you have ever thought about being a satellite IGate, now is the time.  And the ideal OMNI antenna for PSAT is a simple 19.5? vertical whip over a large metal ground plane.  An even better one (+2 dB)  is a ? wave vertical whip (58?) over a large metal ground plane.  And it is OK to keep this antenna lower to the ground since it will not hear anything below 25 degrees anyway and in fact, the lower it is, with surroundings blocking it, the less interference it will have.



IGATES that hear weak signal PSAT show on http://pcsat.aprs.org

All 145.825 IGATES show on the http://ariss.net page but they may not hear PSAT.



Another reason to keep your Space IGATE antenna low is because they create DONUT Hole Data NULLS.  Anyone who transmits a packet on the UPLINK TO one of these sateliltes and is heard by an IGATE direct, will be ignored on the downlink, since the packet has already been heard.  Therefere the digipeat will not be recorded by the above FINDU.COM pages?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org
*Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.  The downlink capture on the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.  Although PSAT supports the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.  This morning we sent the commands and will be watching to see if they work.  If they did, then PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE of that orbit, the clock is totally off.  SO instead of going from 0 to 95 minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00 to 61 on every orbit.  And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the equator (actually 5 South latitude)  on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it will be able to report its own position.  And we can activate its attitude control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR
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From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in  Mon Jun 22 11:03:31 2015
From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:03:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
In-Reply-To: <000301d0acda$952a74e0$bf7f5ea0$@de>
References: <000301d0acda$952a74e0$bf7f5ea0$@de>
Message-ID: <772864176.2058015.1434971011682.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Mike, I have been off the Air for some time now due to moving to a new home. In the process of setting up the station again.?73
Nitin [VU3TYG]
 
      From: Mike Rupprecht <mail at mike-rupprecht.de>
 To: 'Nitin Muttin' <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>; 'Robert Bruninga' <bruninga at usna.edu>; amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Monday, 22 June 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
   
PSAT
1 90720U? ? ? ? ? 15171.33822084 +.00014976 +00000-0 +39525-3 0 00448
2 90720 054.9963 206.9484 0244212 257.7905 099.527? 15.13789412004657

73 Mike
DK3WN



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Nitin Muttin
Gesendet: 22 June 2015 12:53
An: Robert Bruninga; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed

I will keep my satgate running from tomm. Can someone share the keps for PSAT as i see this is not yet available when I update TLE files in orbitron. 73 Nitin [VU3TYG]
 
? ? ? From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
 Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2015 9:44 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Igates needed
? 
We need PSAT IGates in Hawaii, India, China and anywhere in the Southern Hempsiphere.

We did a look at the IGates that are successfully injecting PSAT packets and did a map of them on the PSAT page:



http://aprs.org/psat.html



Notice that this map of stations are not all of the IGATES on 145.825 which includes the ISS, but this is because the ISS is 14 dB stronger than PSAT.
So a station with an omni terrestrial antenna that picks up the ISS just fine may not hear PSAT at all.



So if you have ever thought about being a satellite IGate, now is the time.? And the ideal OMNI antenna for PSAT is a simple 19.5? vertical whip over a large metal ground plane.? An even better one (+2 dB)? is a ? wave vertical whip (58?) over a large metal ground plane.? And it is OK to keep this antenna lower to the ground since it will not hear anything below 25 degrees anyway and in fact, the lower it is, with surroundings blocking it, the less interference it will have.



IGATES that hear weak signal PSAT show on http://pcsat.aprs.org

All 145.825 IGATES show on the http://ariss.net page but they may not hear PSAT.



Another reason to keep your Space IGATE antenna low is because they create DONUT Hole Data NULLS.? Anyone who transmits a packet on the UPLINK TO one of these sateliltes and is heard by an IGATE direct, will be ignored on the downlink, since the packet has already been heard.? Therefere the digipeat will not be recorded by the above FINDU.COM pages?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:34 AM
*To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org
*Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu
*Subject:* PSAT digipeating and Position Knowledge



PSAT continues to work well, both APRS and PSK31.? The downlink capture on the PCSAT.APRS.ORG page captures most PSAT packets, but does not capture any digipeated users if they use the ARISS path.? Although PSAT supports the VIA ARISS alias so that users can use both ISS and PSAT without changing parameters the FINDU page does not recognize it.



At this point it is unclear what paths that FINDU recognizes.



These paths are supposed to be digipeated by PSAT:

VIA ARISS

VIA APRSAT

VIA PSAT

VIA WIDEn-N



Here is what we know:



ARISS is not recognized by FINDU.

We are not sure if FINDU recognizes APRSAT

We are not sure if PSAT recognizes PSAT

We have seen VIA WIDEn-N work on FINDU



We have been busy with deadlines on our next satellite, but yesterday we figured a workaround on the PSAT ORBIT and MA clock.? This morning we sent the commands and will be watching to see if they work.? If they did, then PSAT will be able to know where it is, and then we can activate its APRS POSITION packets plus individual beacons over individual continents.



Although the S#OOOMM? telemetry was supposed to be ORBIT number and MINUTE of that orbit, the clock is totally off.? SO instead of going from 0 to 95 minutes per orbit, the actual count is more like 0-61 minutes per orbit.
So, if this works, then MM is not real minutes, but is a number between 00 to 61 on every orbit.? And 0 should be when the satellite crosses the equator (actually 5 South latitude)? on every orbit northbound.



Once we get that under control, then PSAT will know where it is, and it will be able to report its own position.? And we can activate its attitude control, and we can activate different bulletins over each continent.



Bob, WB4APR
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From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Mon Jun 22 11:47:05 2015
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:47:05 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Warehouse Registration
Message-ID: <CAHOBG6X0pG1g6hZjDHmYHJqNhs9xwzm8f2n2=kp8hM0BgBBxAA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The FC warehouse has been been receviveing data from many users since
depleoyemnt, for we which we are very greatful!.

Occasionally we get requests for the the re-issuing of Authentication keys
when someone has had to do a re-install of the Dashboard, these requests
are usually satisfied if a few hours.

If you have lost your key and would like to reinstall the software, please
send an emeil request with your SiteId to me.

73

Dave, G4DPZ
FUNcune Team Member

From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu  Mon Jun 22 13:36:07 2015
From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:36:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder doubt
In-Reply-To: <55876B6A.4070904@gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYsX4MBpWAcos4nWCbj2Ca+d5LsfEBC-4LB5szAKj=_iKg@mail.gmail.com>	<CABzOSOpKzooWnEH+4SaXhssJsd8ojgWQ96+i2LA3snvXaaVuaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5586D60A.5090204@frcuba.co.cu> <55876B6A.4070904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55880F47.5090106@frcuba.co.cu>

Ha ha!

Thanks for the explanation... I see i was wrong.

Now i can program my radios in the correct way.

73 and thanks.

El 21/06/15 a las 21:56, Greg D escibi?:
> Yes, Pavel, but since the frequency heard by the satellite as it
> approaches is higher than what you sent, you need to send at a lower
> frequency to compensate.  The idea is that you want the frequency heard
> at the satellite to be constant.
>
> As the satellite passes the midpoint, and recedes from view, the
> frequency it hears is lower than what you transmitted.  So you need to
> send at a higher frequency to compensate, again so that the satellite
> hears a constant signal.
>
> So, during the pass your transmitter needs to go from lower to higher.
>
> The physics works the same for your reception (it better!), but since
> the satellite isn't changing its frequency to be constant at your end,
> you need to move from higher (on approach) to lower (towards LOS) to
> conpensate.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Pavel Milanes Costa wrote:
>> I have a doubt...
>>
>> A few days ago Paul put a list of the proposed channel for EO-80..
>>
>> I have noted that the TX freqs are from lower to higher (AOS to LOS),
>> is that correct?
>>
>> From the sat point of view a Tx on the center freq will appears as
>> shifted up at the AOS because the two point are getting closer
>> (doppler is summing), in fact no matter is the freq is for TX or RX if
>> at AOS the shift must be + not -
>>
>> I'm right?
>>
>> PS: with the 2.5 Khz of the new Chinese radios the 2m downlink can be
>> shifted to +2.5 Khz at AOS and -2.5 Khz at LOS to improve reception
>> quality
>>
>> El 17/06/15 a las 12:59, Paul Stoetzer escibi?:
>>> Anyone who wants to program memories for EO-80 should follow this plan:
>>>
>>> EO-80 AOS - TX 435.070 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>>> EO-80 2      -  TX 435.075 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>>> EO-80 TCA  -  TX 435.080 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>>> EO-80 4      -  TX 435.085 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
>>> EO-80 LOS -  TX 435.090 MHz 210.7 Hz CTCSS, RX 145.840 MHz
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From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 22 17:46:14 2015
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:46:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-80 FM Transponder doubt
Message-ID: <1811044565.4087378.1434995174770.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Easy way to remember.... 

Uplink goes from low to high (ground to satellite)
Downlink goes from high to low (satellite to ground)

73!
Ha ha!

Thanks for the explanation... I see i was wrong.

Now i can program my radios in the correct way.

73 and thanks.?------------------------------------------------------------------"Control is the need of the fearful mind. Trust is the need of the courageous heart."

From w1pa at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 22 18:57:16 2015
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill ACITO, W1PA)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:57:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FD2015: W1BIM
Message-ID: <BAY180-DS74251571583FCA072B7AA98A10@phx.gbl>

It's that time of year again.

I'll be the sole Sat Op for W1BIM (Central Mass ARA). We'll 
be just west of
Worcester, MA (6A, WMA, I think) on a football field on a 
high plateau -- 
nice low horizon. I'll be focusing on the analog birds, and 
low passes on
the eastern horizon to throttle the insanity.  Priority is 
demonstration
and getting the 100 pt  bonus and then I'll most likely move 
to one of
the HF CW stations, rather than a full Amsat FD. We'll see.

Bill   W1PA 


From shakeelj2k at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 22 18:42:09 2015
From: shakeelj2k at yahoo.com (shakeel -ur-rehman)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:42:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 settings for receving telemetry of velox -1
	satellite
Message-ID: <1434998529.87591.YahooMailBasic@web120801.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone, I have tnc kantronics 9612 I also have icom 9100,.

I have connected my icom 9100 with satpc32 and who is changing the doppler in my icom 9100. i donot know how to proceed further to receive any telemtry from any satellite e.g velox-1.

Can I receive telemetry without TNC and without anyother software? Can I recive beacon signal of any satellite and how to record its its beacon sound in satpc32 software.

Can I receive 50 $ satellite telemtry in satpc32 software. if yes where will be the raw telemtery file located.
ICOM 9100 does not have PSK demodulation can I do recive satellite pass with satellite telemtry encoded in PSK  but how what will be setting in ICOM 9100.

I am trouble and unable to move ahead ,please help.

.I am new to satellite . I am tracking using yagi antennas.any help regards

Regards

From k9jkm at comcast.net  Mon Jun 22 19:54:31 2015
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:54:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega Launch Webstream Monday Evening (USA time)
Message-ID: <005101d0ad25$41f4ecb0$c5dec610$@net>

Webcast of the Vega launch this evening (USA time) from French Guiana.
Payload is Sentinel-2A, the second mission for Europe's Copernicus
environment monitoring program (non-ham payload). 

Coverage begins at 0130 UTC June 23 (2030 June 22 Central USA). Launch is
planned for 0152 UTC.

Watch the stream on http://www.arianespace.tv/ and click on the 'Follow the
next launch live on the internet' button).

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org
AMSAT VP User Services




From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 22 19:57:27 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:57:27 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Vega Launch Webstream Monday Evening (USA time)
In-Reply-To: <005101d0ad25$41f4ecb0$c5dec610$@net>
References: <005101d0ad25$41f4ecb0$c5dec610$@net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOq8E1Npt99OWr2AcY18GQPX-Qzi105C541qcajvAjUB6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hopefully this French Guianese cat isn't looking for an even bigger adventure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ

73,

Paul, N8HM


On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:54 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm at comcast.net> wrote:
> Webcast of the Vega launch this evening (USA time) from French Guiana.
> Payload is Sentinel-2A, the second mission for Europe's Copernicus
> environment monitoring program (non-ham payload).
>
> Coverage begins at 0130 UTC June 23 (2030 June 22 Central USA). Launch is
> planned for 0152 UTC.
>
> Watch the stream on http://www.arianespace.tv/ and click on the 'Follow the
> next launch live on the internet' button).
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
> AMSAT VP User Services
>
>
>
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From ve6itv at telus.net  Mon Jun 22 20:03:41 2015
From: ve6itv at telus.net (Scott Smith)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:03:41 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] usb driver needed
Message-ID: <1672EC6A62C24AC3B60C323611BC74CE@VE6IVMain>

Hi, could someone send me (email) the FT232r USB UART driver.  I?m having trouble trying to download one. Any help appreciated. 73 de Scott VE6ITV

From wageners at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 20:47:41 2015
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:47:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] usb driver needed
In-Reply-To: <1672EC6A62C24AC3B60C323611BC74CE@VE6IVMain>
References: <1672EC6A62C24AC3B60C323611BC74CE@VE6IVMain>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHDCVpGrKOj+M-W7xmpXGFOfSWRT8add4hWUKPQaxOYBVg@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.ftdichip.com/FTDrivers.htm

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Scott Smith <ve6itv at telus.net> wrote:

> Hi, could someone send me (email) the FT232r USB UART driver.  I?m having
> trouble trying to download one. Any help appreciated. 73 de Scott VE6ITV
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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Mon Jun 22 21:53:14 2015
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:53:14 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] usb driver needed
In-Reply-To: <1672EC6A62C24AC3B60C323611BC74CE@VE6IVMain>
References: <1672EC6A62C24AC3B60C323611BC74CE@VE6IVMain>
Message-ID: <558883CA.20504@verizon.net>

Scott,

Genuine FTDI  UART's will auto-install.  If you have a counterfeit 
device, it may have been "Bricked".  That is, rendered unusable thru a 
software update.

Research "Bricked FTDI UART".  This started about one year ago.


BOB  KO6TZ

From ve6itv at telus.net  Mon Jun 22 23:38:20 2015
From: ve6itv at telus.net (Scott Smith)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:38:20 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] USB driver needed
Message-ID: <00F42415E2034C198E8F0AD1084443F8@VE6IVMain>

Tnx to everyone for your kind help. I downloaded the driver but still no success. Guess I?ll just have to change frequencies manually, at least my LVB tracker works great. 73 de VE6ITV Scott 

From sgholly at optonline.net  Tue Jun 23 00:15:13 2015
From: sgholly at optonline.net (sgholly at optonline.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:15:13 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] W0LMD Satellite Tracker Junior info request
Message-ID: <e64890a8ca88.5588a511@optonline.net>

Greetings,
In preparation for Field Day I'm looking for documentation on the W0LMD Satellite Tracker Junior. Specifically I need the configuration switch settings and if possible a copy of the manual.

Thank you es 73,
Steve WI2W

From peter at peterkazakoff.ca  Tue Jun 23 04:56:14 2015
From: peter at peterkazakoff.ca (Peter Kazakoff)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:56:14 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler shift and oscillator offset
Message-ID: <CALfyHmt4D_SXBVRNZ-ra5MSc3nDufTZnGYC5U8hzFYAZmnMcfw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I'm in the process of designing the modem for a university-developed cube
satellite. We'd like amateurs to be able to use the packetized data channel
for interaction with the satellite. The plan is for amateurs to be able to
do stuff like initiate file downlink (there's a small camera on board),
write text files for use as a message board, query the telemetry files, and
possibly route packets from ground -> satellite -> ground.

Right now I'm trying to gauge the capabilities of amateur ground stations.
Obviously, the ground stations will be attempting to correct for Doppler
shift, but there's only so far that can go. Does anyone have a good idea
what the typical velocity error is between a NORAD TLE and a cube satellite
TLE? This will go into my maximum frequency error specification.

The other issue, frequency wise, is oscillator drift and offset error. The
satellite will be using a very stable Stratum-3 TCXO with 280 ppb or better
stability, which gives me good accuracy on the satellite side (within 100
Hz or so on 70cm). The other side of the link would be the amateur
transceivers. What's a reasonable oscillator stability spec for a typical
SSB transceiver used on amateur satellite frequencies?

For modulation scheme I'm leaning towards either pi/4 DQPSK or standard
QPSK with a BPSK barker code preamble on each packet. Both schemes will use
convolutional coding for FEC. Which scheme I go with depends on which ends
up being more robust under severe doppler while still fitting into hardware
constraints - the comms system is all going to be done in SDR. Suggestions
for alternate schemes are welcome though.

Thanks for your help,

-- 
*Peter Kazakoff*
ECOSat <http://csdc.uvic.ca/> Communications Lead
4th Year Electrical Engineering Student
University of Victoria
*(250) 920 - 6870*

From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Tue Jun 23 05:29:43 2015
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:29:43 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd
In-Reply-To: <96BF196EE5EF4300ACF98D83C24E8B57@kb2m4PC>
References: <A87462A035C341AEA0C2299F00A010BD@VE6IVMain>
	<96BF196EE5EF4300ACF98D83C24E8B57@kb2m4PC>
Message-ID: <5588EEC7.4060902@t-online.de>

Hi Jeff,
I suppose you steer the IC-9100 via one of  it's two USB ports for CAT 
control. Then it is necessary to switch on the IC-9100 before you start 
SatPC32. The built-in USB-to-Serial adapter of the IC-9100 is fed by the 
radio. Therefore the generated (virtual) COM port is not available if 
the radio is off. When SatPC32 starts it checks whether the selected COM 
ports for CAT and rotor control are available and sends the error 
message if not.

You can only avoid this if you connect the radio via a "CAT cable" 
between the PC and the radios CI-V connector because the built-in 
USB-to-Serial adapter of the CAT cabel is fed by the PC.

The LVB Tracker uses also a built-in USB-to-Serial adapter. So, it's 
generated virtual COM port is also only available if the LVB Tracker is on.

73s, Erich, DK1TB


Am 21.06.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Jeff:
> I feel your pain Scotty, I  have a similar problem with my 9100, LVB, 
> and SatPC32. In my case the LVB would show a memory error and I would 
> lose calibration. Only way to fix would be a full re-calibration. This 
> is a real pain to go through during a pass so I just remember to turn 
> on the LVB, then the 9100, then bring up SatPC32. I know of no other 
> way around this....
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Scott Smith
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:00 PM
> To: Amsat
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd
>
> Hi, I fired up  my SatPC32 in the wrong order from the way I usually 
> do it, I usually turn on radio and my LVB tracker first then fire up 
> the computer. The LVB  works fine,but I got a message ?could not open 
> Com3 and to check if It was available? this is weird as this laptop is 
> dedicated only for satellite use, and I have not changed anything. I 
> use a Kenwwod IF232r between my computer and my TS790a radio. I opened 
> the device manager and it says for the FT232r USB UART ?the drivers 
> for this device are not installed (Code 28). I tried to downoard the 
> driver from ZLP and it still does not work?, any ideas? Tnx in 
> advance. 73 de VE6ITV Scott
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From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Tue Jun 23 10:55:42 2015
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:55:42 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquim 2015 Speaker Slots
Message-ID: <CAHOBG6XhxcBsx=0waWO3SDSGUyhNARsbRFUKu2y-9qDnH6eaMw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have a couple of speaker slots available over the weekend of the 25/26
July at the colloquium if you want to make your activities known to the
Amateur Satellite community.

Please contact me via email to discuss.

73

Dave, G4DPZ
AMSAT-UK Committee Member

From jeff_griffin at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 11:43:53 2015
From: jeff_griffin at comcast.net (Jeff)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:43:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd
In-Reply-To: <5588EEC7.4060902@t-online.de>
References: <A87462A035C341AEA0C2299F00A010BD@VE6IVMain>
	<96BF196EE5EF4300ACF98D83C24E8B57@kb2m4PC>
	<5588EEC7.4060902@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <833185A74CEC4B17BE6406D4C6348331@kb2m4PC>

Thanks for the prompt reply Erich. I'm currently at my winter home in 
Florida, all my sat equipment is at my summer home in NJ, so I didn't have 
it in front of me to help Scotty try and sort out the USB drivers. That 
being said, I know the 9100 comport is virtual, but I wasn't sure about the 
LVB, but that still doesn't explain to me why I would lose the LVB 
calibration if I turn on the devices in an incorrect order. I usually save 
the pass by looking out the window at the antennas and quickly coming up 
with a fudge factor to enter into the rotor offsets in SatPC32 , then do the 
re-calibration afterwards.  I would think I would just get a comport 
error,that would be fixable by simply turning off, then on the devices in 
the correct order. Any ideas on this?


Also, while discussing this, I think back to when I had this problem. I 
remember SatPC32 taking quite awhile to recover from my operational blunder. 
I routinely use the 9100, along with my K3 with DXLab, the DXLab rig control 
program Commander doesn't have this problem. If the 9100 is off when I try 
and select it with Commander it just sits there till I turn on the 9100 and 
then all is well. I don't have to reboot Commander to recover from the 
missing comport error. I will be back in NJ for the summer in a few days and 
will be able to test this if you want me to try anything...

73 Jeff kb2m


-----Original Message----- 
From: Erich Eichmann
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:29 AM
To: Jeff ; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd

Hi Jeff,
I suppose you steer the IC-9100 via one of  it's two USB ports for CAT
control. Then it is necessary to switch on the IC-9100 before you start
SatPC32. The built-in USB-to-Serial adapter of the IC-9100 is fed by the
radio. Therefore the generated (virtual) COM port is not available if
the radio is off. When SatPC32 starts it checks whether the selected COM
ports for CAT and rotor control are available and sends the error
message if not.

You can only avoid this if you connect the radio via a "CAT cable"
between the PC and the radios CI-V connector because the built-in
USB-to-Serial adapter of the CAT cabel is fed by the PC.

The LVB Tracker uses also a built-in USB-to-Serial adapter. So, it's
generated virtual COM port is also only available if the LVB Tracker is on.

73s, Erich, DK1TB


Am 21.06.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Jeff:
> I feel your pain Scotty, I  have a similar problem with my 9100, LVB, and 
> SatPC32. In my case the LVB would show a memory error and I would lose 
> calibration. Only way to fix would be a full re-calibration. This is a 
> real pain to go through during a pass so I just remember to turn on the 
> LVB, then the 9100, then bring up SatPC32. I know of no other way around 
> this....
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Scott Smith
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:00 PM
> To: Amsat
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 actinh wierd
>
> Hi, I fired up  my SatPC32 in the wrong order from the way I usually do 
> it, I usually turn on radio and my LVB tracker first then fire up the 
> computer. The LVB  works fine,but I got a message ?could not open Com3 and 
> to check if It was available? this is weird as this laptop is dedicated 
> only for satellite use, and I have not changed anything. I use a Kenwwod 
> IF232r between my computer and my TS790a radio. I opened the device 
> manager and it says for the FT232r USB UART ?the drivers for this device 
> are not installed (Code 28). I tried to downoard the driver from ZLP and 
> it still does not work?, any ideas? Tnx in advance. 73 de VE6ITV Scott


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 15:03:26 2015
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:03:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day ISS voice contact probability
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPYNyw0XjJRSckxve2oiTehh5CQ0c02TgY0d-wBYs6KVQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like there are only three folks on the ISS now:

Commander Gennady Padalka, RN3DT
Scott Kelly
Mikhail Kornienko, RN3BF

Kelly is not a ham, right? So since Field Day is a US/CA event mostly,
it's very unlikely the Russians will get on, right?

John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05

P.S. I found this video of Astronaut Reid Wiseman talking about his
field day contacts from last year. One thing I found especially
interesting is that he said afterwards he got on for random contacts
about once a week. I didn't hear anyone reference this in previous
correspondence on the topic. [1] [2] It's always exciting to hear of
increased possibilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nLFNG-Njlo

1) http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-April/052618.html
2) http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-April/052623.html

P.P.S Here is a teaser video I made of an SO-50 pass I recorded for a
new YouTube channel I am slowly creating

https://youtu.be/hbu5xZEsBTE

From w0jab at big-river.net  Tue Jun 23 16:50:14 2015
From: w0jab at big-river.net (John Becker)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:50:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PC sat 32
Message-ID: <55898E46.5020607@big-river.net>

Can PCsat be run on a windows box or does it have to be dos.
either way not a problem as I do have DOS 6.22 ans XP/

JAB



From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 23 17:09:27 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:09:27 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PC sat 32
In-Reply-To: <55898E46.5020607@big-river.net>
References: <55898E46.5020607@big-river.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoTORJcpqspbhGkHcD89SJMEWo9ptGzqasM4SULSwAqBg@mail.gmail.com>

SatPC32 is a Windows application. It doesn't run at all in DOS.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:50 PM, John Becker <w0jab at big-river.net> wrote:
> Can PCsat be run on a windows box or does it have to be dos.
> either way not a problem as I do have DOS 6.22 ans XP/
>
> JAB
>
>
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From steve.w5iem at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 20:41:09 2015
From: steve.w5iem at gmail.com (Steve May)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:41:09 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
Message-ID: <CAE0P9VcMFY1zb+eESa30fS6xfrWDjGEOLka6XjchX=zBVEz9VA@mail.gmail.com>

What would the group say is a fair price to pay for an 847 in really good
condition? I am working on a possible deal for one but I don't really want
to overpay for it.

Steve, W5IEM

From redski at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 23 20:50:24 2015
From: redski at bellsouth.net (W. M. Willoughby)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:50:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
Message-ID: <305622173.2155347.1435092624530.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A. Does anyone have any info?
Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org

From clintbradford at mac.com  Tue Jun 23 20:04:03 2015
From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:04:03 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS and Field Day 2015
Message-ID: <366CEE03-AFF5-49F9-8F68-2DA2FD002D87@mac.com>

I have been told both by NASA and by ARISS officials that we should not expect 
FM voice contacts this Field Day like we enjoyed last year.

BUT - You KNOW many are programmed for FM Voice for regions 1 and 2/3, 
as well as Packet and SSTV - just in case something occurs ... Not necessarily 
for FD points, but for the public relations value for visitors to Field Day 
locations.

Clint K6LCS

From k7trkradio at charter.net  Tue Jun 23 21:04:06 2015
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:04:06 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day ISS voice contact probability
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKPYNyw0XjJRSckxve2oiTehh5CQ0c02TgY0d-wBYs6KVQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKPYNyw0XjJRSckxve2oiTehh5CQ0c02TgY0d-wBYs6KVQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003601d0adf8$24942e50$6dbc8af0$@charter.net>

Its free to try it...couple of good US passes during Field Day.

Is the voice freq still split, with up 144.490 for US and 145.800 downlink?

73
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:03 AM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day ISS voice contact probability

Looks like there are only three folks on the ISS now:

Commander Gennady Padalka, RN3DT
Scott Kelly
Mikhail Kornienko, RN3BF

Kelly is not a ham, right? So since Field Day is a US/CA event mostly, it's
very unlikely the Russians will get on, right?

John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05

P.S. I found this video of Astronaut Reid Wiseman talking about his field
day contacts from last year. One thing I found especially interesting is
that he said afterwards he got on for random contacts about once a week. I
didn't hear anyone reference this in previous correspondence on the topic.
[1] [2] It's always exciting to hear of increased possibilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nLFNG-Njlo

1) http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-April/052618.html
2) http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-April/052623.html

P.P.S Here is a teaser video I made of an SO-50 pass I recorded for a new
YouTube channel I am slowly creating

https://youtu.be/hbu5xZEsBTE
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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 21:29:45 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:29:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day ISS voice contact probability
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYsdsDjujN0N0AeOD4PkD4-7v4qv0jMPtPNv7Vvyn1VrHg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it still is a split... RX: 145.800, TX 144.490. I also believe they
wont be making field day contacts, look here
http://www.ariss.org/current-status-of-iss-stations.html . Seems all radios
are not in use except one are being used to school contacts. Heres some
info http://www.issfanclub.com/frequencies
73's KE8AKW

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 21:32:20 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:32:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYsFLfNVfVZiUQi7weKJRNNo_ySE1oQtJ-eqT-wjWE1Zwg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I heard AO-7 mode B today at around 18:45, It was very warbly and weak. On
June 22 at 19:31 Mode B was not heard, but I heard the mode A beacon. It
seems to switch modes now between NA and SA, Because I will see people from
SA saying mode B is on than when it comes over NA, Mode A is on.. Seems it
not fully powering down in eclipses.

73's KE8AKW

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Tue Jun 23 22:06:54 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:06:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <305622173.2155347.1435092624530.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <305622173.2155347.1435092624530.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2033F404-804A-488A-AA13-3074504F0882@mindspring.com>

AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A. Does anyone have any info?
> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
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From wageners at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 22:34:21 2015
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:34:21 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
In-Reply-To: <CAE0P9VcMFY1zb+eESa30fS6xfrWDjGEOLka6XjchX=zBVEz9VA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE0P9VcMFY1zb+eESa30fS6xfrWDjGEOLka6XjchX=zBVEz9VA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHAm5NN=ZDriUemto6t35WF+jpEfKTUrUD4TUhcJQWvdpA@mail.gmail.com>

A good deal is what it is worth to you. Look at Ebay for recent selling
prices. They vary pending condition, serial number and accessories.
Anything under $900 for a late model in pristine condition, working power
button, original box and accessories, no modifications, non-smoker etc. is
a good price.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Steve May <steve.w5iem at gmail.com> wrote:

> What would the group say is a fair price to pay for an 847 in really good
> condition? I am working on a possible deal for one but I don't really want
> to overpay for it.
>
> Steve, W5IEM
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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Tue Jun 23 20:57:38 2015
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:57:38 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
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Steve, I recently sold mine for $1029.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yaesu-FT-847-Transceiver-HF-6m-VHF-and-UHF-Earth-Sta
tion-/111667452075?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESOX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=t
rue&si=iGuvPek%252FH%252B3W8GdzYhzlgmPDrcs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

73, Ted
K7TRK

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Subject: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847

What would the group say is a fair price to pay for an 847 in really good
condition? I am working on a possible deal for one but I don't really want
to overpay for it.

Steve, W5IEM
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 24 02:59:33 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:59:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
too.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A. Does anyone have any info?
>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
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From kq6ea at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 03:13:18 2015
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:13:18 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on it.

73, Jim  KQ6EA


On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
> too.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A. Does anyone have any info?
>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 05:32:10 2015
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:32:10 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day ISS voice contact probability
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Back in 2002 my FD ISS contact was with Valeri Korzun, RS0ISS, the ISS 
Commander at the time.  He handled the FD situation very well.

So, one never knows...  Definitely worth a listen.

Greg  KO6TH


Nicholas Mahr wrote:
> Yes, it still is a split... RX: 145.800, TX 144.490. I also believe they
> wont be making field day contacts, look here
> http://www.ariss.org/current-status-of-iss-stations.html . Seems all radios
> are not in use except one are being used to school contacts. Heres some
> info http://www.issfanclub.com/frequencies
> 73's KE8AKW
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From fabianomoser at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 07:03:41 2015
From: fabianomoser at gmail.com (fabianomoser at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:03:41 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
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Hello,

I bought one 5 years ago for 1000?, here in Portugal.

73 CT7ABD
Fabiano Moser.
Enviado do meu iPhone

> On 23 Jun 2015, at 21:57, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Steve, I recently sold mine for $1029.00
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yaesu-FT-847-Transceiver-HF-6m-VHF-and-UHF-Earth-Sta
> tion-/111667452075?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESOX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=t
> rue&si=iGuvPek%252FH%252B3W8GdzYhzlgmPDrcs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
> 
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:41 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
> 
> What would the group say is a fair price to pay for an 847 in really good
> condition? I am working on a possible deal for one but I don't really want
> to overpay for it.
> 
> Steve, W5IEM
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From nss at mwt.net  Wed Jun 24 12:41:50 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:41:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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AO-7B

"B"?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
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http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts 
> on it.
>
> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>
>
> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>> too.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the 
>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you 
>>> plan on AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>
>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby 
>>>> <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the 
>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not 
>>>> heard and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly 
>>>> switching to mode A. Does anyone have any info?
>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Wed Jun 24 12:58:44 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:58:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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Mode B, vs. Mode A

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> 
> AO-7B
> 
> "B"?
> 
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on it.
>> 
>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>> 
>> 
>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>> too.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A. Does anyone have any info?
>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From nss at mwt.net  Wed Jun 24 13:02:29 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:02:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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Ahhh OK,
I was thinking that,
So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>
>> AO-7B
>>
>> "B"?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on it.
>>>
>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A. Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From w1pa at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:58:46 2015
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill ACITO, W1PA)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:58:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
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Make sure you get a later model year that has bi-directional 
CAT, and not uni-directional.

Bill
W1PA 


From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 24 14:08:01 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:08:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
from what I have read.

Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
receive the downlink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po

73.

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> Ahhh OK,
> I was thinking that,
> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>
>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> AO-7B
>>>
>>> "B"?
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>
>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on
>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard
>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A.
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
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From jimlist at zoho.com  Wed Jun 24 14:15:29 2015
From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:15:29 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2015 24-26 July 2015 Hotel Bookings
In-Reply-To: <558AAA65.3070408@mwt.net>
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Hi Folks,

This is a final reminder that our reserved rooms at the Holiday Inn 
Guildford will be 'released' at 1730 26th June.

If you wish to stay overnight at the hotel, I very strongly suggest that 
you reserve your room NOW to avoid disappointment. All details are at 
http://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/colloquium-2015/

If you don't wish to stay overnight - don't panic, you can turn up and 
pay at the AMSAT shop as a day delegate.

73s Jim G3WGM


From w1pa at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 24 15:11:43 2015
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill ACITO, W1PA)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:11:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847
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References: <BAY180-DS3BCE55D6BB4561BFF570398AF0@phx.gbl>
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(Copied the list for everyone?s reference and benefit)

http://www.supercontrol.de/cat/ft847faq/ft847faq.htm

http://www.supercontrol.de/cat/ft847faq/page4.htm#catcontrol

Only FT-847s starting with serial # 8G05xxxx, or earlier units that were sent back to Yaesu for retro-fit, will have bi-directional CAT. The ?update? requires replacement of the main processer CPU chip (a high pin-count quad flat pack, not for the faint of heart); I would want to see the Yaesu receipt to confirm it was done.   I was told that other updates were done at various points in the lineage (e.g. better power switch?), but I don?t have any details on that.

I have a uni-directional-CAT 847; to his credit and my continued, sincere thanks, Erich (of SatPC32 fame) provided me a ?special? .exe last year so I could use the radio with SatPC32.  The limitation is that I must do all VFO, doppler, and mode control from the PC --   if I touch the radio, the PC does not recognize what I have done, and quickly overwrites the radio with what it is doing.

Bill   W1PA

From: Dennis Griffin 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:10 AM
To: Bill ACITO, W1PA 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fair Price for Yaesu FT847

Hi Bill, 

Is there a known cut-in s/n that would signify inclusion of this feature? 

Were there any other feature changes at the time of this change?

If not, this change would only be of interest to those wanting to use CAT control with their FT-847, correct?


73 de Dennis KD7CAC
Scottsdale, AZ


From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun 24 16:41:43 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:41:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (grouind planes)
Message-ID: <f8a167dd19228a80bc49b9e1f930e58e@mail.gmail.com>

Subject: RE: APRS Satgate Antenna page

> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

Good question.  Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane.  But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.  The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match.  They do not affect the pattern at all.

I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more.  I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.  And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

SO, the bigger the better.  It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...

This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

This shows the very common misunderstandings of the term "ground  plane".
(As a MATCHING system with 1/4 wave radials, or as a true Ground reflector
(infinite)

Bob, WB4aPR


On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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From michael.vivona at wftv.com  Wed Jun 24 16:43:12 2015
From: michael.vivona at wftv.com (Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando))
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:43:12 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
Message-ID: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>

I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. 
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this. 

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 24 17:41:56 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:41:56 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>

The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.

SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
<michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 18:00:08 2015
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:00:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>

I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'. 

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.

SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
<michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
> 
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
> _______________________________________________
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 24 18:13:40 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:13:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
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Based on reading posts here and elsewhere that it just doesn't work
very well for that purpose. It's a wonderful program for many things,
but Doppler correction on linear transponders just doesn't seem to
work well.

I know a ton of hams that successfully use SatPC32 to computer control
their stations. I do not know of any that use HRD. If anyone does,
please comment!

I have never personally used computer control because my operating
conditions make it quite difficult to implement (perhaps I could strap
a Windows 8 tablet running SatPC32 to my arm). When you are just
getting started it's best to learn to tune manually anyway. You don't
want to lose out on a rare grid or country just because your computer
control stops working for whatever reason!

73,

Paul, N8HM





On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>
> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Wed Jun 24 18:17:01 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:17:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8371551D-0919-4AB1-9BFE-497C285C4328@mindspring.com>

In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'. 
> 
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
> 
> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>> 
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> _______________________________________________
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun 24 20:45:17 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:45:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT: 7th Annual Golden Packet Attempt 18 July 2015
Message-ID: <e15f8828cc4808200626d4072f5881d0@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT:  Can?t get enough of the bugs at Field Day?  Then take 3 weeks to
recuperate and join us:



The 7th annual attempt to do APRS contacts along the 2000 mile path along
the Appalachians using 14 hops will be Saturday 18 July.  Last year was the
first end-to-end success.  This year we plan a repeat, plus, DX branches
off to other ?trails? and into Canada will be considered.



We still have some gaps in Commitments to the 14 main-line stations:



AL. Huntsville - ?

TN. Lookout Mtn - ?

GA. Springer - Glenn, N4AZR

TN. Clingman?s Dome - Larry, K4AEC

NC. Roan Mtn - Dave, K4KWL

VA. Comers Rock - Zack, KJ4LQP + VTARA

VA. AO Mtn - ?

VA. VA Mtn - ?

MD. MD Mtns ? Mike George

PA. GD Hill ? Bob, WB4APR

PA. Camelback - ?

NY. Sam?s Pt - ?

MA. Greylock - WECA, WA1PLE

MA. Equinox - ?

VT.  Mt-Wash - John, NT1I

ME. Sugarloaf - John, WA1KLI

ME. Katahden - ?



We do ?not- generally encourage other local digis as they QRM the DX
packets which are vulnerable enough as it is.  But we will consider
branches going off at least 100 miles or to exciting places.  We operate
NOT on the national 144.39 APRS channel so that we avoid the wall-to-wall
QRM.  The event lasts a minimum of 4 hours starting at noon until success.



See the web page: http://aprs.org/at-golden-packet.html



Further we would like to ecnourage other groups across the USA to try to
activate any of the other 50,000 linear miles of hiking trails in the USA
such as the Pacific Coast Trail, and Intercontinental trails, or
Lewis-and-Clark trail, Pony Express?,  First Telegraph route to Calif, etc?



Also don?t forget the same date/time is Scouting?s Operation On-Target
where scouts and hams take to the mountain tops to try to make contact with
signal mirrors.  Team up with a group and show off ham radio.



Bob, WB4APR

From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 20:55:54 2015
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:55:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <8371551D-0919-4AB1-9BFE-497C285C4328@mindspring.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
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Thanks Andrew,
OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:

In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'. 
> 
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
> 
> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>> 
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Wed Jun 24 21:09:37 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:09:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <0D6602FE-4376-4221-BA96-90FDA2999628@yahoo.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
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Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It may work for you.

Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and speak up.

Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has provided outstanding, even custom, support.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Andrew,
> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
> 
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
> 
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'. 
>> 
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>> 
>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
>> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>> 
>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Paul, N8HM
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
>> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>> 
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 24 21:14:35 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:14:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <485F2142-DBDE-43D2-A2CE-9A0BA5FED820@mindspring.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
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	<96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
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	<485F2142-DBDE-43D2-A2CE-9A0BA5FED820@mindspring.com>
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Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate
antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent
satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.

May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100
is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams
use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled
satellite station - with SatPC32.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It may work for you.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and speak up.
>
> Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Andrew,
>> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
>>
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
>>>
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
>>> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>>>
>>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
>>> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Vivona
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From FraserBonnett at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 21:23:01 2015
From: FraserBonnett at verizon.net (Fraser Bonnett)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:23:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
Message-ID: <000a01d0aec3$f3bc3d00$db34b700$@verizon.net>

I have an IC-9100 and tried for quite a while to get it to work with the
HRD.  I do not want to disparage HRD at all,  I use it for all my HF work,
it's a fantastic suite of software.  However, the Satellite part just isn't
up to the same level that the rest of it is.  From my tribulations with HRD
and my IC-9100, I can say:

 

1.       It works for tracking satellite beacons and NOAA weather sats just
fine.  Doppler correction works quite well

2.       It doesn't support tones so you can't use it on SO-50 unless you
edit the tone after HRD takes over the CAT, something I couldn't figure out

3.       It could possibly work with linear transponders if you could figure
out how to adjust the offsets.  This is extremely difficult to do in HRD,
and something I could never manage to get right.

4.       Finally asking a question in the Satellite sub-forum on the support
site never elicits any response, probably because no-one is using it.

 

So, like everyone else suggested, I switched to SatPC32 and it works with
the IC-9100 perfectly.

 

73, Fraser, W3UTD



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From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 21:58:54 2015
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:58:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
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	<96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
	<8371551D-0919-4AB1-9BFE-497C285C4328@mindspring.com>
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Paul,
I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. 
After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same class. 

HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite. 

SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey DOS look and feel. 

Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished. If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds, then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many users that they only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?

I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better operator. 

Michael Vivona
KC4ZVA
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate
antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent
satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.

May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100
is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams
use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled
satellite station - with SatPC32.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It may work for you.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and speak up.
> 
> Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
> 
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Andrew,
>> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
>> 
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> 
>> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
>> 
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
>>> 
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
>>> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>>> 
>>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
>>> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Vivona
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 22:05:33 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:05:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYuZsow5jWZ+S6TNTNBxMauY-6GvrLS1JFH0x=oCfYSocw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Instead of fussing with automatic dopper control, I would honestly just do
manual tuning, I think its superior to automatic, if you have alot of
experience with manual tuning. I wouldent mess with HRD, Just use
SatPC32... As for tracking I recemmend Nova For Windows, flawless 3D
software!
73 KE8AKW

From vlfiscus at mcn.net  Wed Jun 24 23:19:58 2015
From: vlfiscus at mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:19:58 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <6AEC450D-A821-42FF-81F9-E89024F7C98B@yahoo.com>
References: <CABzOSOpfg3rnfzG2Hs6b7kazUygq747i9-bHYvrNLbvuDYxteg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
	<8371551D-0919-4AB1-9BFE-497C285C4328@mindspring.com>
	<0D6602FE-4376-4221-BA96-90FDA2999628@yahoo.com>
	<485F2142-DBDE-43D2-A2CE-9A0BA5FED820@mindspring.com>
	<CABzOSOpfg3rnfzG2Hs6b7kazUygq747i9-bHYvrNLbvuDYxteg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20150624171624.00c35788@pop.earthlink.net>

At 05:58 PM 6/24/2015 -0400, Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com> wrote:
>Paul,
>I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of 
>why I want to use HRD over SatPC32.
>After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same 
>class.
>
>HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham 
>could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode 
>module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook 
>contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, 
>built in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, 
>fully configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite.
>
>SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat 
>window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey 
>DOS look and feel.
>
>Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying 
>to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems 
>administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD 
>over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has 
>accomplished. If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for 
>linear birds, then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many 
>users that they only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run 
>their rigs by hand for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I 
>don't know?
>
>I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better 
>operator.
>
>Michael



And to think I still use InstantTrack and two fingers....

with success.

 >Ducking<


KB7ADL


From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 22:17:57 2015
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:17:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYuZsow5jWZ+S6TNTNBxMauY-6GvrLS1JFH0x=oCfYSocw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYuZsow5jWZ+S6TNTNBxMauY-6GvrLS1JFH0x=oCfYSocw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <75799A72-4A35-4320-AF64-7BBFAB982DAC@yahoo.com>

Thanks Nicholas,
I think you are spot on. 
I guess I was hoping for a perfect answer, but it sounds like most users tune it manually and use SatPC32 or other program of choice just to track the bird and control the rotor. 

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
Instead of fussing with automatic dopper control, I would honestly just do
manual tuning, I think its superior to automatic, if you have alot of
experience with manual tuning. I wouldent mess with HRD, Just use
SatPC32... As for tracking I recemmend Nova For Windows, flawless 3D
software!
73 KE8AKW
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From nss at mwt.net  Wed Jun 24 22:21:48 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:21:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
Message-ID: <558B2D7C.1070107@mwt.net>

This has peaked my interest in this old bird.
Is there a schedule someplace that I can view to know when it will be in 
mode "A"?

Joe WB9SBD
-- 
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 24 22:27:40 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:27:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <558B2D7C.1070107@mwt.net>
References: <558B2D7C.1070107@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpMSSD9dTr6qV0ZpufB7Q3yh4b=i-Bm1GJFO17O_UzByg@mail.gmail.com>

No. When the satellite powers up after losing power in eclipse, it
comes up by default in Mode B and pretty much enters Mode A randomly,
usually when someone transmits with too much power, causing a voltage
drop that causes the satellite to switch modes.

When the satellite is in constant sunlight, it does switch between
Mode A and Mode B every 24 hours, but there are never very many users
of Mode A.

Between October and December of this year, this will be the case and
Mode A should be available every other day, but after that, AO-7 will
not be in constant sunlight for many years.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> This has peaked my interest in this old bird.
> Is there a schedule someplace that I can view to know when it will be in
> mode "A"?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> --
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From tom.campie at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 00:07:12 2015
From: tom.campie at gmail.com (TJ Campie)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:07:12 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSat pass
Message-ID: <CAK4_Zq1u5BCT+c+muKpGYV+N4hLEi7ikytd4qsv2AT-uWkXq8Q@mail.gmail.com>

I heard a packet, didn't decode but that was it.  And a 90 deg pass too!
Tough cookie.  Got a couple packets gated by ISS on the overlapping pass
and sent a few messages to the stations heard but nothing got ACK'd.  Next
time!

GL out there.

73, W0EA
TJ
----
QRP ARCI #14612 | CW Ops #953 | SKCC #4593T
NAQCC #3768 | Flying Pigs QRP #2254
http://W0EA.us
*Because QRO is too easy (but sometimes required!)*

From k7trkradio at charter.net  Thu Jun 25 00:20:38 2015
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:20:38 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
Message-ID: <001001d0aedc$c3802de0$4a8089a0$@charter.net>


Hi Michael ...good points, however, the fact is that HRD does not perform
the proper doppler adjustments. Does it look good? Does it integrate with
your log book? Does it have a better graphical presentation? YES to all
these questions. But, to prove to yourself the doppler problem, start HRD
Sat program and SATPC32 in the same window. Make sure all keps are updated
and apples are apples as they say. A radio hook up is not necessary. Now,
pick the same sat in a pass that is good for your location. As it tracks,
look at the data from SATPC32 and the data from HRD. You will see that the
AZ is virtually the same. BUT Note the figures for range, altitude and
elevation. You will Cleary see a huge difference. The graphic picture will
look like the sat is in the same place but something is clearly not right
with the HRD data. And, thus it does not tune the radio properly for linear
use. For some reason, it worked great on the old FM birds like AO51, etc.,
but again, not with linear.

I have personally discussed these issues with Rick Ruhl, the HRD co-owner. I
believe they intend to fix the issue sometime in the future, but to date,
they have concentrated on fixing and updating the basic program. It's an
issue of priorities based on 'supply and demand' from the user base. Sat
operation is a niche group, so they have put us at the back of the bus in
terms of development. That is just the way it is.

Also, HRD 's sat program DOES NOT work for the ISS (neither does SATPC32 but
they have the ISS add on.

What you can do, though, is take advantage of the great HRD graphic
presentation to visually follow things and use SATPC32 to run your radio. If
you have 2 screens or a TV in the shack, you can through the HRD picture to
those for a full screen graphic presentation and thus have full screen SATPC
on your main computer.

Good luck in the journey and congrats on the 9100

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mvivona via
AMSAT-BB
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 2:59 PM
To: Paul Stoetzer
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

Paul,
I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why
I want to use HRD over SatPC32. 
After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same
class. 

HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could
ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode module,
satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook contacts, rig
control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built in solar cycle
progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully configurable user
layouts throughout the entire suite. 

SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat
window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey
DOS look and feel. 

Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying to
be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems administrator
and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD over the years and
have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished. If what I'm hearing
is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds, then so be it. At the
same time I am also hearing from many users that they only use SatPC32 or
HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand for the Doppler
offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?

I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better
operator. 

Michael Vivona
KC4ZVA
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate antennas
(and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent satellite
reception, so it may not make a good test.

May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100 is
probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams use them
very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled satellite station -
with SatPC32.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It
may work for you.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to
work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single
active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step
forward and speak up.
> 
> Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On
the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has
provided outstanding, even custom, support.
> 
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Andrew,
>> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I
hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler
offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
>> 
>> Michael Vivona
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> 
>> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does
not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've
been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32
will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
>> 
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the
issue is? Just sayin'.
>>> 
>>> Michael Vivona
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never 
>>> tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
>>> 
>>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear
transponders.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) 
>>> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and
linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
>>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my
laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the
actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
>>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance
for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Vivona
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 00:21:36 2015
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:21:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/P DM81/82 short notice - op tonight
Message-ID: <CAPovOwfog4ipF6yxj1KphJFtNwd92E_fPBCzHBRFnkVL97EdLA@mail.gmail.com>

I'll try SO-50 at 0100 UTC tonight (25-June) from the DM81/82 line near
Midland, TX.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From wageners at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 00:46:57 2015
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:46:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <6AEC450D-A821-42FF-81F9-E89024F7C98B@yahoo.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<CABzOSOpxfMcCH2LVVTz5NQqDyCcfby0L66GJ=V_J=Ru8BZAz9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<96229C60-CADB-43F6-B6A0-B1DEBA7F7700@yahoo.com>
	<8371551D-0919-4AB1-9BFE-497C285C4328@mindspring.com>
	<0D6602FE-4376-4221-BA96-90FDA2999628@yahoo.com>
	<485F2142-DBDE-43D2-A2CE-9A0BA5FED820@mindspring.com>
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	<6AEC450D-A821-42FF-81F9-E89024F7C98B@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHA=cxgxfgK1zH3qZhSDhK+Ec4Wujbh=Tq+7FD65+gw0fg@mail.gmail.com>

"


* I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of
why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. After using both, my conclusions are
that they are not even in the same class."*
Hi Michael,

You are correct and your are also wrong, with due respect. "*They are not
even in the same class*"
*Yes, and SatPC32 delivers where HRD is a failure!* If you truly believe
that HRD is "*one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham
could ever need*" you might want to check the forums and the constant need
for fixes. Having a shiny user interface does nothing if things don't work.
SatPC32 works, it doesn't need fixes, it gets regular updates, that's what
is important. My request to Erich (the author) for an additional function
gets a positive response within days!!!!!
SatPC32 is simple (you call it clunky) and the functionality is right on.
It does what it promises and even better. It is fully supported, free
upgrades, supports AMSAT and yes, it is a satellite tracking radio and
rotor control program that simply works! That's all. HRD gives you a shiny
GUI and fails horrible on the satellite function, just to mention one
failure....

Rest my case,

73 Stefan, VE4NSA

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Paul,
> I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of
> why I want to use HRD over SatPC32.
> After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same
> class.
>
> HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham
> could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode
> module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook
> contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built
> in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully
> configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite.
>
> SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat
> window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey
> DOS look and feel.
>
> Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying
> to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems
> administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD
> over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished.
> If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds,
> then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many users that they
> only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand
> for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?
>
> I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better
> operator.
>
> Michael Vivona
> KC4ZVA
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate
> antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent
> satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.
>
> May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100
> is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams
> use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled
> satellite station - with SatPC32.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It
> may work for you.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to
> work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single
> active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step
> forward and speak up.
> >
> > Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause.
> On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and
> has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
> >
> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Andrew,
> >> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
> FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I
> hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler
> offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
> >>
> >> Michael Vivona
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
> glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning
> does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case
> I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for
> SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
> >>
> >> 73, Drew KO4MA
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what
> the issue is? Just sayin'.
> >>>
> >>> Michael Vivona
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
> >>> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
> >>>
> >>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear
> transponders.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Paul, N8HM
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
> >>> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
> >>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and
> linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
> satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
> Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
> version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
> contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
> it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
> >>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my
> laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the
> actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
> >>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in
> advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael Vivona
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
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> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> of AMSAT-NA.
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From kq6ea at verizon.net  Thu Jun 25 02:37:10 2015
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:37:10 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpMSSD9dTr6qV0ZpufB7Q3yh4b=i-Bm1GJFO17O_UzByg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <558B2D7C.1070107@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOpMSSD9dTr6qV0ZpufB7Q3yh4b=i-Bm1GJFO17O_UzByg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558B6956.9080001@verizon.net>

And as Drew mentioned the other day, if it gets hammered too hard with 
excessive uplink power, it will either flip modes, or reset.

I'm taking my Buddipole and a length of coax for a 10 Meter antenna this 
weekend, "Just In Case"!

73, Jim  KQ6EA


On 06/24/2015 10:27 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> No. When the satellite powers up after losing power in eclipse, it
> comes up by default in Mode B and pretty much enters Mode A randomly,
> usually when someone transmits with too much power, causing a voltage
> drop that causes the satellite to switch modes.
>
> When the satellite is in constant sunlight, it does switch between
> Mode A and Mode B every 24 hours, but there are never very many users
> of Mode A.
>
> Between October and December of this year, this will be the case and
> Mode A should be available every other day, but after that, AO-7 will
> not be in constant sunlight for many years.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>> This has peaked my interest in this old bird.
>> Is there a schedule someplace that I can view to know when it will be in
>> mode "A"?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> --
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> _______________________________________________
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From dave at w0dhb.net  Thu Jun 25 04:53:12 2015
From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:53:12 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
Message-ID: <009801d0af02$d7691d50$863b57f0$@w0dhb.net>

Michael

My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than
others have observed.
- I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side
with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each
other well.
- I did like the user interface
- I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations

But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I
am now a happy SatPC32 user.

Several reasons:
HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging
software
About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning for
PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work.
Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set
TX/RX modes.
I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.

SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich,
I am still learning new things about its' capabilities.
SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own
operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many
hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.

My $.02

Dave
W0DHB

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vivona,
Michael (CMG-Orlando)
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to
one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. 
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this. 

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
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From gcjd1947 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 03:36:59 2015
From: gcjd1947 at gmail.com (Connie Dodson)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:36:59 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale 2m - 10m transverter
Message-ID: <15A461D0-7A91-4B3B-A1CE-CE105755A060@gmail.com>


I see the listing was Jan 2015.

Is it still available?


Connie
w7cjd

From nss at mwt.net  Thu Jun 25 12:56:18 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:56:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqKUkrvbvqEefH8FWCu_xZvizNZQThfnWwG9d0L4U-WCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <305622173.2155347.1435092624530.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>	<2033F404-804A-488A-AA13-3074504F0882@mindspring.com>	<CABzOSOqt1C60kusaVBw-ZuCWi7BYNHCd66Kpy99SeMAYfA9X0g@mail.gmail.com>	<558A204E.40800@verizon.net>
	<558AA58E.2090801@mwt.net>	<C6A9EB7E-5C24-4567-B713-54EEE2DB3B4A@mindspring.com>	<558AAA65.3070408@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOqKUkrvbvqEefH8FWCu_xZvizNZQThfnWwG9d0L4U-WCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558BFA72.7000902@mwt.net>

I just downloaded and installed Orbitron.

Now, When I ran it last night, where it said AO-7 was, and where this page
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=7530
Says it is, was not even close to being the same. One had it over south 
Africa, and the other way up northern Canada.
They both can't be right, how is one to find out what one is right?

Joe WB9SBD

Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
> from what I have read.
>
> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
> receive the downlink.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>
> 73.
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>> Ahhh OK,
>> I was thinking that,
>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AO-7B
>>>>
>>>> "B"?
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on
>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard
>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
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From dan at post.com  Thu Jun 25 13:14:14 2015
From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:14:14 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <558BFA72.7000902@mwt.net>
References: <305622173.2155347.1435092624530.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<2033F404-804A-488A-AA13-3074504F0882@mindspring.com>
	<CABzOSOqt1C60kusaVBw-ZuCWi7BYNHCd66Kpy99SeMAYfA9X0g@mail.gmail.com>
	<558A204E.40800@verizon.net> <558AA58E.2090801@mwt.net>
	<C6A9EB7E-5C24-4567-B713-54EEE2DB3B4A@mindspring.com>
	<558AAA65.3070408@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOqKUkrvbvqEefH8FWCu_xZvizNZQThfnWwG9d0L4U-WCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<558BFA72.7000902@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CAF3DnKhKuDxHLREgzqU+kXq8FFwcFpMFC8Y6mudu3h4_NU5ceA@mail.gmail.com>

Orbitron uses TLE files for prediction like everyone else. There are
options for sources of TLE's in the settings page.

Some of the options do not work, as some of the suppliers of TLEs have
changed the formats and requirements.

Download:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
From:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/keps.php
under "Bare NASA (2-line) format elements for all satellites of
interest to radio amateurs (updated 25 Jun, 2015)

Right click and save the txt file on your computer.
The on Orbitron's main page on the right click LOAD TLE (near the
time) and select the file.

You can get Orbitron to download some automatically, but many of the
options no longer work. You should also synchronise your PC clock
which is another option in the settings.

From dwarnberg at verizon.net  Thu Jun 25 13:55:01 2015
From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:55:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
In-Reply-To: <009801d0af02$d7691d50$863b57f0$@w0dhb.net>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<009801d0af02$d7691d50$863b57f0$@w0dhb.net>
Message-ID: <007401d0af4e$8b0a43c0$a11ecb40$@net>

I'll throw in 2 cents of my own based on my experiences as a newbie to the
whole SAT communication world, I'm no expert.

First I started with an HT and an Arrow antenna just wanting to listen...
naturally after a few short successful passes where I heard conversations I
was hooked.

I already had HRD (latest version) that I used with my TS-590 so the SAT
portion of it was a shoe in for me I thought.  So I did my research and
stepped up and bought a shiny new IC-9100.  So here is where it all starts.

Hooked up the new IC9100 and started playing.. HRD would control the rig
without issue, but it didn't put it in "SAT" mode when I was attempting to
track a sat pass.. after several attempts I finally figured it out...
mostly, it does track and control your rig "ok" with SATS like SO-50, but no
tone control, attempted FO-29.. no go, it would control receive side but not
the transmit side correctly.. more testing..  my ultimate goal here (being a
newbie) was to have software control the rig so I could concentrate on the
communication without having to deal with radio tuning as well (although the
IC-9100 makes that very easy now that I have it figured out)..

Anyway, to make a long story short I got frustrated with HRD (keep in mind
I'm using egg beaters with pre amps, no rotator control necessary), so I
gave SATPC32 a shot.. As most have stated the learning curve it higher with
SATPC32 however it does handle the IC-9100 SAT control quite well, puts the
rig in SAT mode, tunes both receive and transmit sides correctly regardless
of SAT mode (FM, linear inverting, etc).. it's not pretty but it works
well..

So bottom line, to each his own... My suggestion is to do your research,
check out all options and test.. then test some more, find what works for
you.

My preference for SAT work is SATPC32 to control the rig, Heavens Above on
my tablet to see what's coming...

Thanks

David,  KK4QOE

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:53 AM
To: 'Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

Michael

My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than
others have observed.
- I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side
with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each
other well.
- I did like the user interface
- I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations

But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I
am now a happy SatPC32 user.

Several reasons:
HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging
software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning
for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work.
Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set
TX/RX modes.
I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.

SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich,
I am still learning new things about its' capabilities.
SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own
operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many
hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.

My $.02

Dave
W0DHB

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vivona,
Michael (CMG-Orlando)
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to
one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. 
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this. 

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
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From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 21:29:45 2015
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:29:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird
In-Reply-To: <007401d0af4e$8b0a43c0$a11ecb40$@net>
References: <C1BDECD1-9AB3-4415-973E-3EAA58F0446D@wftv.com>
	<009801d0af02$d7691d50$863b57f0$@w0dhb.net>
	<007401d0af4e$8b0a43c0$a11ecb40$@net>
Message-ID: <465955E3-7217-44D7-A256-4566814CE311@yahoo.com>

OK, I just tried my first attempt on FO-29. I have done SO-50 FM with great success,  but now it's on to the scary SSB bird. 
I was setup with dual IC7000, one for TX (VHF/LSB) and one for RX (UHF/LSB).  The RX rig was being controlled by computer. During the pass I could hear someone calling. I adjusted the frequency just a little and he sounded nice a clear. I moved a little away from his freq and began to transmit to see if I could hear my return. Immediately heard my return, but no matter what I did could not get it to sound clear. It was real high pitched sounding. If I dialed it down it would start to get close to the right pitch, but then get so weak that I couldn't hear it. I was dialing my TX rig. 
Any thoughts?

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:55 AM, David <dwarnberg at verizon.net> wrote:

I'll throw in 2 cents of my own based on my experiences as a newbie to the
whole SAT communication world, I'm no expert.

First I started with an HT and an Arrow antenna just wanting to listen...
naturally after a few short successful passes where I heard conversations I
was hooked.

I already had HRD (latest version) that I used with my TS-590 so the SAT
portion of it was a shoe in for me I thought.  So I did my research and
stepped up and bought a shiny new IC-9100.  So here is where it all starts.

Hooked up the new IC9100 and started playing.. HRD would control the rig
without issue, but it didn't put it in "SAT" mode when I was attempting to
track a sat pass.. after several attempts I finally figured it out...
mostly, it does track and control your rig "ok" with SATS like SO-50, but no
tone control, attempted FO-29.. no go, it would control receive side but not
the transmit side correctly.. more testing..  my ultimate goal here (being a
newbie) was to have software control the rig so I could concentrate on the
communication without having to deal with radio tuning as well (although the
IC-9100 makes that very easy now that I have it figured out)..

Anyway, to make a long story short I got frustrated with HRD (keep in mind
I'm using egg beaters with pre amps, no rotator control necessary), so I
gave SATPC32 a shot.. As most have stated the learning curve it higher with
SATPC32 however it does handle the IC-9100 SAT control quite well, puts the
rig in SAT mode, tunes both receive and transmit sides correctly regardless
of SAT mode (FM, linear inverting, etc).. it's not pretty but it works
well..

So bottom line, to each his own... My suggestion is to do your research,
check out all options and test.. then test some more, find what works for
you.

My preference for SAT work is SATPC32 to control the rig, Heavens Above on
my tablet to see what's coming...

Thanks

David,  KK4QOE

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:53 AM
To: 'Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

Michael

My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than
others have observed.
- I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side
with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each
other well.
- I did like the user interface
- I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations

But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I
am now a happy SatPC32 user.

Several reasons:
HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging
software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning
for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work.
Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set
TX/RX modes.
I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.

SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich,
I am still learning new things about its' capabilities.
SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own
operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many
hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.

My $.02

Dave
W0DHB

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vivona,
Michael (CMG-Orlando)
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to
one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. 
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this. 

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
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From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 21:45:16 2015
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:45:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd:  My first attempt on a linear bird
References: <465955E3-7217-44D7-A256-4566814CE311@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F671F9FF-24CB-4804-B59A-F2D6AB245D8D@yahoo.com>

Ahhhh, I see I miss-typed. I was actually on LSB for the VHF side and USB on the UHF side. I will probably get a billion responses on the previous email. Ha. 

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

From: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Date: June 25, 2015 at 5:29:45 PM EDT
To: "<amsat-bb at amsat.org>" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird
Reply-To: Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com>

OK, I just tried my first attempt on FO-29. I have done SO-50 FM with great success,  but now it's on to the scary SSB bird. 
I was setup with dual IC7000, one for TX (VHF/LSB) and one for RX (UHF/LSB).  The RX rig was being controlled by computer. During the pass I could hear someone calling. I adjusted the frequency just a little and he sounded nice a clear. I moved a little away from his freq and began to transmit to see if I could hear my return. Immediately heard my return, but no matter what I did could not get it to sound clear. It was real high pitched sounding. If I dialed it down it would start to get close to the right pitch, but then get so weak that I couldn't hear it. I was dialing my TX rig. 
Any thoughts?

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:55 AM, David <dwarnberg at verizon.net> wrote:

I'll throw in 2 cents of my own based on my experiences as a newbie to the
whole SAT communication world, I'm no expert.

First I started with an HT and an Arrow antenna just wanting to listen...
naturally after a few short successful passes where I heard conversations I
was hooked.

I already had HRD (latest version) that I used with my TS-590 so the SAT
portion of it was a shoe in for me I thought.  So I did my research and
stepped up and bought a shiny new IC-9100.  So here is where it all starts.

Hooked up the new IC9100 and started playing.. HRD would control the rig
without issue, but it didn't put it in "SAT" mode when I was attempting to
track a sat pass.. after several attempts I finally figured it out...
mostly, it does track and control your rig "ok" with SATS like SO-50, but no
tone control, attempted FO-29.. no go, it would control receive side but not
the transmit side correctly.. more testing..  my ultimate goal here (being a
newbie) was to have software control the rig so I could concentrate on the
communication without having to deal with radio tuning as well (although the
IC-9100 makes that very easy now that I have it figured out)..

Anyway, to make a long story short I got frustrated with HRD (keep in mind
I'm using egg beaters with pre amps, no rotator control necessary), so I
gave SATPC32 a shot.. As most have stated the learning curve it higher with
SATPC32 however it does handle the IC-9100 SAT control quite well, puts the
rig in SAT mode, tunes both receive and transmit sides correctly regardless
of SAT mode (FM, linear inverting, etc).. it's not pretty but it works
well..

So bottom line, to each his own... My suggestion is to do your research,
check out all options and test.. then test some more, find what works for
you.

My preference for SAT work is SATPC32 to control the rig, Heavens Above on
my tablet to see what's coming...

Thanks

David,  KK4QOE

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:53 AM
To: 'Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)'; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

Michael

My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than
others have observed.
- I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side
with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each
other well.
- I did like the user interface
- I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations

But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I
am now a happy SatPC32 user.

Several reasons:
HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging
software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning
for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work.
Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set
TX/RX modes.
I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.

SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich,
I am still learning new things about its' capabilities.
SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own
operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many
hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.

My $.02

Dave
W0DHB

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vivona,
Michael (CMG-Orlando)
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to
one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. 
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this. 

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
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From wa7eth at frontier.com  Fri Jun 26 00:09:01 2015
From: wa7eth at frontier.com (wa7eth at frontier.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:09:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Operations
Message-ID: <1173233987.382736.1435277341365.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

The Snohomish County Washington HAMS Club WA7LAW will be participating in Field Day this year. ?I will be operating the satellite station for the club. ?Unfortunately, it looks like there is only one real good pass available on FO-29 for us, and that is at 2233Z. ?I will be in the upper end of the passband, around 435.870MHZ ?+/- Doppler. ?Please look for us and make a contact. I will answer any CW as well as SSB calls. ? We will not be joining the mele on SO-50!.73'...Ed ?WA7ETH

From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 02:41:33 2015
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:41:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Oldest?
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYuwzBsHc2CUybnSJQNO4JC1QNxXB2HLWwrkf58oBXbeTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYuwzBsHc2CUybnSJQNO4JC1QNxXB2HLWwrkf58oBXbeTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYsEoDJ7YC2pjK+_XSx-2XTHWCMKb4QN2fn6yJgT4J4cUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I know this topic has been debated for some time, but I believe by just
looking around the Wikipedia and google, AO-7 would have to be the longest
operating satellite around earth. All I have seen people mention is GOES 3
and ATS 3, but never once AO-7.. Even if it was silent for 21 years, it's
still technically the longest operating satellite. Can anyone else confirm
there are no other satellite older than it still operating? It's kinda hard
to find a current answer because it's always changing, and you have to
scavenge the internet. If so it would be awesome to think a low tech, ham
built satellite would beat a commercial, million dollar satellite...
73's KE8AKW

From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun 26 02:47:47 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:47:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Oldest?
In-Reply-To: <CAGu+VYsEoDJ7YC2pjK+_XSx-2XTHWCMKb4QN2fn6yJgT4J4cUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGu+VYuwzBsHc2CUybnSJQNO4JC1QNxXB2HLWwrkf58oBXbeTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGu+VYsEoDJ7YC2pjK+_XSx-2XTHWCMKb4QN2fn6yJgT4J4cUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqgNo5ugv2xxE8T98-EFNtHoeEHx-ZgdGYaHLrY1+UA-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Nick,

I think there are a couple of satellites older that still transmit,
but AO-7 is, I believe, the oldest satellite that still serves a
useful purpose.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I know this topic has been debated for some time, but I believe by just
> looking around the Wikipedia and google, AO-7 would have to be the longest
> operating satellite around earth. All I have seen people mention is GOES 3
> and ATS 3, but never once AO-7.. Even if it was silent for 21 years, it's
> still technically the longest operating satellite. Can anyone else confirm
> there are no other satellite older than it still operating? It's kinda hard
> to find a current answer because it's always changing, and you have to
> scavenge the internet. If so it would be awesome to think a low tech, ham
> built satellite would beat a commercial, million dollar satellite...
> 73's KE8AKW
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From nss at mwt.net  Fri Jun 26 16:03:43 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:03:43 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqKUkrvbvqEefH8FWCu_xZvizNZQThfnWwG9d0L4U-WCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <305622173.2155347.1435092624530.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>	<2033F404-804A-488A-AA13-3074504F0882@mindspring.com>	<CABzOSOqt1C60kusaVBw-ZuCWi7BYNHCd66Kpy99SeMAYfA9X0g@mail.gmail.com>	<558A204E.40800@verizon.net>
	<558AA58E.2090801@mwt.net>	<C6A9EB7E-5C24-4567-B713-54EEE2DB3B4A@mindspring.com>	<558AAA65.3070408@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOqKUkrvbvqEefH8FWCu_xZvizNZQThfnWwG9d0L4U-WCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558D77DF.8090802@mwt.net>

Can someone run me some predictions for like the next couple days?
I'm having a terrible time getting any program to tell me where this 
baby is at.
NOTHING I have tried agrees with any other!
I have tried four sources so far and check them all at once and none are 
at the same location, some 1/2 the globe away, others like 1/4 orbit 
off. makes no sense. what I am using to compare, and none ever come 
close to each other I'm in Wisconsin
Heavens Above,
N2YO Page
Orbitron
HRD

UG?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
> from what I have read.
>
> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
> receive the downlink.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>
> 73.
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>> Ahhh OK,
>> I was thinking that,
>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AO-7B
>>>>
>>>> "B"?
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on
>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard
>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun 26 16:06:13 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:06:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <558D77DF.8090802@mwt.net>
References: <305622173.2155347.1435092624530.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<2033F404-804A-488A-AA13-3074504F0882@mindspring.com>
	<CABzOSOqt1C60kusaVBw-ZuCWi7BYNHCd66Kpy99SeMAYfA9X0g@mail.gmail.com>
	<558A204E.40800@verizon.net> <558AA58E.2090801@mwt.net>
	<C6A9EB7E-5C24-4567-B713-54EEE2DB3B4A@mindspring.com>
	<558AAA65.3070408@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOqKUkrvbvqEefH8FWCu_xZvizNZQThfnWwG9d0L4U-WCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Put your location in here. This will be accurate.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> Can someone run me some predictions for like the next couple days?
> I'm having a terrible time getting any program to tell me where this baby is
> at.
> NOTHING I have tried agrees with any other!
> I have tried four sources so far and check them all at once and none are at
> the same location, some 1/2 the globe away, others like 1/4 orbit off. makes
> no sense. what I am using to compare, and none ever come close to each other
> I'm in Wisconsin
> Heavens Above,
> N2YO Page
> Orbitron
> HRD
>
> UG?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>
>> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
>> from what I have read.
>>
>> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
>> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
>> receive the downlink.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>>
>> 73.
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ahhh OK,
>>> I was thinking that,
>>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> AO-7B
>>>>>
>>>>> "B"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>>> Sig
>>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really
>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you
>>>>>>>> plan on
>>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby
>>>>>>>>> <redski at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not
>>>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching
>>>>>>>>> to mode A.
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From nss at mwt.net  Fri Jun 26 16:35:58 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:35:58 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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Thanks!
That page agrees with HRD.
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/26/2015 11:06 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Put your location in here. This will be accurate.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>> Can someone run me some predictions for like the next couple days?
>> I'm having a terrible time getting any program to tell me where this baby is
>> at.
>> NOTHING I have tried agrees with any other!
>> I have tried four sources so far and check them all at once and none are at
>> the same location, some 1/2 the globe away, others like 1/4 orbit off. makes
>> no sense. what I am using to compare, and none ever come close to each other
>> I'm in Wisconsin
>> Heavens Above,
>> N2YO Page
>> Orbitron
>> HRD
>>
>> UG?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
>>> from what I have read.
>>>
>>> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
>>> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
>>> receive the downlink.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>>>
>>> 73.
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>> Ahhh OK,
>>>> I was thinking that,
>>>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>>>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AO-7B
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "B"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>>>> Sig
>>>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really
>>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you
>>>>>>>>> plan on
>>>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby
>>>>>>>>>> <redski at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not
>>>>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching
>>>>>>>>>> to mode A.
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>>>>>> program!
>>>>>>>>>> Subscription settings:
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>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>>>>> program!
>>>>>>>>> Subscription settings:
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>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>>>>> program!
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>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>> of
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>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>


From skristof at etczone.net  Fri Jun 26 17:25:21 2015
From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:25:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <558D77DF.8090802@mwt.net>
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You can just pull a page of predictions for your location off of the AMSAT 
website. Unless you need the elements for running a tracker system.
Steve AI9IN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7


> Can someone run me some predictions for like the next couple days?
> I'm having a terrible time getting any program to tell me where this baby 
> is at.
> NOTHING I have tried agrees with any other!
> I have tried four sources so far and check them all at once and none are 
> at the same location, some 1/2 the globe away, others like 1/4 orbit off. 
> makes no sense. what I am using to compare, and none ever come close to 
> each other I'm in Wisconsin
> Heavens Above,
> N2YO Page
> Orbitron
> HRD
>
> UG?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
>> from what I have read.
>>
>> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
>> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
>> receive the downlink.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>>
>> 73.
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>> Ahhh OK,
>>> I was thinking that,
>>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> AO-7B
>>>>>
>>>>> "B"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>>> Sig
>>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really 
>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you 
>>>>>>>> plan on
>>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby 
>>>>>>>>> <redski at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, 
>>>>>>>>> not heard
>>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching 
>>>>>>>>> to mode A.
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum 
>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official 
>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>>>>> program!
>>>>>>>>> Subscription settings: 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New 
Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, 
Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 


From jimlist at zoho.com  Fri Jun 26 20:13:38 2015
From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:13:38 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change
In-Reply-To: <55854080.50804@zoho.com>
References: <DD357FA95DBC4C89A3D19AAB4EF3BFED@allgood.local>
	<55282E67.7020104@zoho.com> <553AB7FC.9040508@zoho.com>
	<5543FCD1.8040305@zoho.com> <554DCF7F.6000206@zoho.com>
	<5555C08F.9060506@zoho.com> <555F9DB6.6020704@zoho.com>
	<557B3EBA.1070203@milnet.uk.net> <55854080.50804@zoho.com>
Message-ID: <558DB272.9020106@zoho.com>

Hi All,

Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 2110 UTC) been 
commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to 
autonomous mode on Sunday pm.

Have FUN! And have a good Field Day in the USA!

73

Jim G3WGM



From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jun 26 20:15:30 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:15:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (dB's)
Message-ID: <b56b693b06ba3416c83dcb4485296bd4@mail.gmail.com>

OK, I did a quick look and the gain of the 3/4 wave vertical is a real
winner over the basic 1/4 wave vertical for OMNI Satgates with no moving
parts optimized for high elevation gain above 30 deg.  Low elevations are
simply covered by another SATgate 600 miles away....

We will write it up in detail, but here are the rough figures.

1/4 wave vertical with radials:  -2 at 30 and -6 at 60  ==>  Basically a
dipole pattern

3/4 wave vertical with radials:  +2 at 30 and -1 at 60  ==>  4 to 5 dB
better, 2 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 6' gndpln:  +2 at 30 and +3 at 70 ==>  4 to 9 dB better,
5.5 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 9' gndpln:  +3 at 30 and +3 at 65 ==>  5 to 9 dB better,
5.3 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical perfect gnd: +3 at 30 and +3 at 68 ==>  5 to 9 dB better,
6.9 dBi max

We are going to do a 3' ground plane too for comparison, but even the 3/4
vertical with just the four 19" radials gives a huge 4 to 5 dB improvement
over a classic ground plane for omni satellite  SATgate work.

Notice too that the Lilenblatt, eggbeaters, and all other "omni"s that try
to keep their gain down on the horizon, are equally as poor as the 1/4 wave
vertical at these higher elevations.  This is OK for strong satellits like
the ISS with 5 to 10 watts, but abisimal when all that gain on the horizon
is completely wasted when you cannot hear the satellite anyway because it is
6 to 10 dB farther away! The result is these "omni's" give up the 4 to 9 dB
at higher elevations where the satellite is much stronger.

Ill eventually put all this on the Omni SATGATE page:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Summary:  The 3/4 wave vertical makes it so you CAN hear LEO satellites 5 to
9 dB better when they are closer and  does this by giving  up on hearing
them when they are so far away you can't hear them anyway!

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page

> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

Good question.  Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane.  But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.  The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match.  They do not affect the pattern at all.

I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that  you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more.  I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.  And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

SO, the bigger the better.  It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...

This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Bob, WB4aPR


On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> aprssig mailing list
> aprssig at tapr.org
> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jun 26 20:37:40 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:37:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page (final)
Message-ID: <3dc28d8eef3f1deef07abdee45281fe9@mail.gmail.com>

Added in the 3' ground plane...

-----Original Message-----
OK, I did a quick look and the gain of the 3/4 wave vertical is a real
winner over the basic 1/4 wave vertical for OMNI Satgates with no moving
parts optimized for high elevation gain above 30 deg.  Low elevations are
simply covered by another SATgate 600 miles away....

We will write it up in detail, but here are the rough figures.

1/4 wave vertical with radials:  -2 at 30 and -6 at 60  ==>  Basically a
dipole pattern

3/4 wave vertical with radials:  +2 at 30 and -1 at 60  ==>  4 to 5 dB
better, 2 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 3' gndpln:  +3 at 30 and +1 at 60 ==>  5 to 7 dB better,
3.3 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 6' gndpln:  +2 at 30 and +3 at 70 ==>  4 to 9 dB better,
5.5 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 9' gndpln: +3 at 30 and +3 at 65 ==>  5 to 9 dB better,
5.3 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical perfect gnd: +3 at 30 and +3 at 68 ==>  5 to 9 dB better,
6.9 dBi max

Even the 3/4 vertical with just the four 19" radials gives a huge 4 to 5 dB
improvement over a classic ground plane for omni satellite  SATgate work.
Also, this antenna does not need to be high.  Just see sky above 30 deg.  In
fact, is better to be low to reduce terrestrial QRM.

Notice too that the Lilenblatt, eggbeaters, and all other "omni"s that try
to keep their gain down on the horizon, are equally as poor as the 1/4 wave
vertical at these higher elevations.  This is OK for strong satellits like
the ISS with 5 to 10 watts, but abisimal when all that gain on the horizon
is completely wasted when you cannot hear the satellite anyway because it is
6 to 10 dB farther away! The result is these "omni's" give up the 4 to 9 dB
at higher elevations where the satellite is much stronger.

Ill eventually put all this on the Omni SATGATE page:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Summary:  The 3/4 wave vertical makes it so you CAN hear LEO satellites 5 to
9 dB better when they are closer and  does this by giving  up on hearing
them when they are so far away you can't hear them anyway!

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page

> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

Good question.  Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane.  But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.  The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match.  They do not affect the pattern at all.

I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that  you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more.  I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.  And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

SO, the bigger the better.  It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...

This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Bob, WB4aPR


On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> aprssig mailing list
> aprssig at tapr.org
> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig

From nss at mwt.net  Fri Jun 26 20:56:53 2015
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:56:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqKUkrvbvqEefH8FWCu_xZvizNZQThfnWwG9d0L4U-WCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <305622173.2155347.1435092624530.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>	<2033F404-804A-488A-AA13-3074504F0882@mindspring.com>	<CABzOSOqt1C60kusaVBw-ZuCWi7BYNHCd66Kpy99SeMAYfA9X0g@mail.gmail.com>	<558A204E.40800@verizon.net>
	<558AA58E.2090801@mwt.net>	<C6A9EB7E-5C24-4567-B713-54EEE2DB3B4A@mindspring.com>	<558AAA65.3070408@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOqKUkrvbvqEefH8FWCu_xZvizNZQThfnWwG9d0L4U-WCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558DBC95.1090701@mwt.net>

is the 29.505 beacon always on or just when mode "A" is active? I tried 
listening earlier and heard nothing. just about to have a great pass 
will be listening again.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
> from what I have read.
>
> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
> receive the downlink.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>
> 73.
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>> Ahhh OK,
>> I was thinking that,
>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AO-7B
>>>>
>>>> "B"?
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you plan on
>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not heard
>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching to mode A.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE at amsat.org
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>>>>> program!
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>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>> Opinions expressed
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>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
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>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>


From martha at amsat.org  Fri Jun 26 21:43:06 2015
From: martha at amsat.org (Martha)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:43:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
Message-ID: <CAPk0USxv0ZB59i2P76r=AnotqAbrrc6p0eE0weMxofWWOdj1ig@mail.gmail.com>

The AMSAT Office will be closed the week of June 29th.  We will reopen on
July 6th. For those who celebrate have a safe July 4th.

-- 
73- Martha(AMSAT's only employee)

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Sat Jun 27 03:53:10 2015
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:53:10 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT North Texas outreach opportunity on July 18th.
Message-ID: <00b801d0b08c$c93f6730$5bbe3590$@net>

Greetings North Texas friends of AMSAT and ARISS.

A great opportunity to showcase Amateur Radio and especially Amateur Radio
in space to the general public will be held on Saturday, July 18th at the
Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas, TX.  In commutation of the anniversary
of the Apollo 11 moon landing, the museum has celebrated "Moon Day" for the
last number of years as a STEM outreach specializing in astronomy, space
science and space flight past and future. 

This year the Moon Day organizers decided to theme the day around the
International Space Station.  They applied for and were granted an ARISS
scheduled contact to become part of the event.  Keith Pugh, W5IU is serving
as ARISS mentor for the event and is working diligently on setting up all
the details of this "Telebridge" contact.  The museum is sponsoring an "Ask
a question of an astronaut" contest with details at
http://www.flightmuseum.com/iss-expedition-crew-43-question/ .  General
details can be found at http://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day-2015/ .  If you
know young people interested in astronomy and space science/exploration,
have them check out the links and see if they submit a question to be used
during the ARISS contact.  Deadline for entry is June 30th.

In years past, several of us have participated in Moon Day activities by
manning an AMSAT table showing off Amateur Radio in space and even doing
some on-air contacts for and with interested participants.

Keith will be very busy all morning setting up and preparing for the ARISS
contact and has several individuals working with him on that.  I have
volunteered to help staff an AMSAT display table but need additional
volunteers to assist with the table and also to be available to make Amateur
Satellite contacts and demonstrations as the sats allow.  Please contact
Keith  w5iu at swbell.net or myself Tom Schuessler, n5hyp at arrl.net to volunteer
to help at least part of the day or the whole 10A-5P duration and tell us
what you can "Bring to the table" as it were.

Help us to support the Museum's ARISS contact and also to put a bug in the
ears of many event goers about the fun and challenge of Amateur Radio
Satellites.

73
Tom Schuessler, N5HYP



From richard.siff at verizon.net  Sat Jun 27 09:59:05 2015
From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 05:59:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT North Texas outreach opportunity on July 18th.
In-Reply-To: <00b801d0b08c$c93f6730$5bbe3590$@net>
References: <00b801d0b08c$c93f6730$5bbe3590$@net>
Message-ID: <F80CF91C1F9A424CA2BA4FA313EC4103@RichardPC>

Great

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler at verizon.net>
To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:53 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT North Texas outreach opportunity on July 18th.


> Greetings North Texas friends of AMSAT and ARISS.
>
> A great opportunity to showcase Amateur Radio and especially Amateur Radio
> in space to the general public will be held on Saturday, July 18th at the
> Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas, TX.  In commutation of the 
> anniversary
> of the Apollo 11 moon landing, the museum has celebrated "Moon Day" for 
> the
> last number of years as a STEM outreach specializing in astronomy, space
> science and space flight past and future.
>
> This year the Moon Day organizers decided to theme the day around the
> International Space Station.  They applied for and were granted an ARISS
> scheduled contact to become part of the event.  Keith Pugh, W5IU is 
> serving
> as ARISS mentor for the event and is working diligently on setting up all
> the details of this "Telebridge" contact.  The museum is sponsoring an 
> "Ask
> a question of an astronaut" contest with details at
> http://www.flightmuseum.com/iss-expedition-crew-43-question/ .  General
> details can be found at http://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day-2015/ .  If 
> you
> know young people interested in astronomy and space science/exploration,
> have them check out the links and see if they submit a question to be used
> during the ARISS contact.  Deadline for entry is June 30th.
>
> In years past, several of us have participated in Moon Day activities by
> manning an AMSAT table showing off Amateur Radio in space and even doing
> some on-air contacts for and with interested participants.
>
> Keith will be very busy all morning setting up and preparing for the ARISS
> contact and has several individuals working with him on that.  I have
> volunteered to help staff an AMSAT display table but need additional
> volunteers to assist with the table and also to be available to make 
> Amateur
> Satellite contacts and demonstrations as the sats allow.  Please contact
> Keith  w5iu at swbell.net or myself Tom Schuessler, n5hyp at arrl.net to 
> volunteer
> to help at least part of the day or the whole 10A-5P duration and tell us
> what you can "Bring to the table" as it were.
>
> Help us to support the Museum's ARISS contact and also to put a bug in the
> ears of many event goers about the fun and challenge of Amateur Radio
> Satellites.
>
> 73
> Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
>
>
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From 77indianajones at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 11:48:26 2015
From: 77indianajones at gmail.com (Indiana Jones)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 06:48:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird
Message-ID: <CAGsZ3uv245Xp+kCzrrsbuGgJEDOXwoTVtD_KxGEb57u7682PDg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for asking this question Michael, I too have spent the last couple
weeks trying to use HRD with my IC9100 and was overcome with frustration
that sometimes I would look at the radio and notice that one thing or
another was wrong.. (both of them were on USB or whatever).  I then began
configuring the radio correctly then turning on tracking in HRD so all it
had to do was adjust freq.. I would only hear others however if i turned
the dial and searched for them.. Yesterday I installed SATPC32 and was
surprised how well it worked.

So - here is where I'm stuck..
1) I'm using the ?turnstiled? Moxon rectangles for 2 m and 70 cm with
pre-amps.  But in this scenario how much power do I need.  I'm guessing 10
watts?  Anything lower and my IC9100 doesn't appear to have any real
output.

2) When I do talk (with appropriate mic gain) I think I hear myself but
it's just way over-modulated sounding.  Using Heil Pro-set with icom
adapter..  Maybe today (field day) with the one FO29 pass I will try with
the ICOM microphone..  This will be my first linear bird as well.  For
Field Day if anyone hears me, I will greatly appreciate a reply - and I
will be operating as K5EOK 3A.

3) How do I add the other 'channels' to SATPC32 for FO-29's
uplink/downlink.. Looks like it comes with only 435.850 programmed so I
need to add .860, .870, .880, .890 and .900 as well as .800 to .840..  but
why does it show in CAT tuning as 435850.45 with a downlink of 145952.15..
I would think it would be 850.0 and 950.0??

Thanks, and I apologize for my ignorance and desperation.  It's sad that
I'm doing a field day demo of how fun satellites are but I can't make a
satellite contact to save myself.

-- 
73 N5ZY Marcus
N5ZY at ARRL.NET

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Sat Jun 27 12:31:23 2015
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 08:31:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird
In-Reply-To: <CAGsZ3uv245Xp+kCzrrsbuGgJEDOXwoTVtD_KxGEb57u7682PDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGsZ3uv245Xp+kCzrrsbuGgJEDOXwoTVtD_KxGEb57u7682PDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <031a01d0b0d5$2e6889f0$8b399dd0$@com>



>1) I'm using the ?turnstiled? Moxon rectangles for 2 m and 70 cm with pre-amps.  But in this scenario how much power do I need.  I'm guessing 10 watts?  Anything lower and my IC9100 doesn't appear to >have any real output.

10 watts is probably about right.

>2) When I do talk (with appropriate mic gain) I think I hear myself but it's just way over-modulated sounding.  Using Heil Pro-set with icom adapter..  Maybe today (field day) with the one FO29 pass I >will try with the ICOM microphone..  This will be my first linear bird as well.  For Field Day if anyone hears me, I will greatly appreciate a reply - and I will be operating as K5EOK 3A.

If operating on FO-29, and the audio isn't clear, you are likely not hearing your return from the satellite, but rather overload and third harmonic from your preamp. This is a common problem on Mode J but easily solved. See http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=2136

>3) How do I add the other 'channels' to SATPC32 for FO-29's uplink/downlink.. Looks like it comes with only 435.850 programmed so I need to add .860, .870, .880, .890 and .900 as well as .800 to .840..  >but why does it show in CAT tuning as 435850.45 with a downlink of 145952.15..
>I would think it would be 850.0 and 950.0??

Operation is not channelized on FO-29. Turn the dial on the 9100 and the program should follow you across the passband tuning for Doppler as you go. You still need to calibrate the frequency offset under "CAT" to take in account any variation in your individual radio...

73, Drew KO4MA


From pa3guo at upcmail.nl  Sat Jun 27 19:35:53 2015
From: pa3guo at upcmail.nl (PA3GUO)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:35:53 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT is ready to be used on Fieldday 2015
Message-ID: <003f01d0b110$7b475590$71d600b0$@upcmail.nl>

We just turned the APRS digipeater back on, so you can test your
systems.

(PSAT APRS was off for 2 days to adjust some internal parameters.)

Everyone should be able to use it: uplink & downlink for APRS 145.825
(UNPROTO APRS VIA ARISS)

!S 19:23:35 !PSAT-1>ARISS>APOFF:!25  .  N\003  .  WS040/999/W3ADO
s#043610,0z290
!S 19:26:53 !IS0EBO-4>PSAT>ARISS*>APRSAT>WIDE>4P4TX3:'~<.l i/]73 FROM
SPACE
!T 19:27:04 !PA3GUO>APRS,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,DK3WN-8::test   APRS
!S 19:27:06 !IS0EBO-4>PSAT>ARISS*>APRSAT>WIDE>4P4TX3:'~<.l i/]73 FROM
SPACE
!T 19:27:13 !PA3GUO>APRS,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,DK3WN-8:Ready for Filed day
!!
!T 19:27:24 !PA3GUO>APRS,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,DK3WN-8:Ready for Field day
!!
!S 19:27:39 !PSAT>ARISS>APRSON:!36  .  N\005  .  ES060/999/W3ADO
s#043614,0z290
!S 19:27:40
!PSAT>ARISS>APRSON:s#043614,0z290,MLkMJlMHmMCmMemMhmLkmJlmHmlDnjanghnA
!T 19:27:43 !PA3GUO>APRS,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,DK3WN-8:PSAT is ready to be
used on Field day 2015
!T 19:28:00 !PA3GUO>APRS,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,DK3WN-8:U APRS VIA ARISS
!T 19:28:38 !PA3GUO>APRS,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,DK3WN-8:Also try thew PSK31
transponder !
!S 19:28:40 !PSAT>ARISS>APRSON:!39  .  N\009  .  ES060/999/W3ADO
s#043615,0z290
!S 19:28:41
!PSAT>ARISS>APRSON:s#043615,0z290,knGlmKmlLmjNmgOm0OmEOlJOgLOdMNaNMDNK
!S 19:29:23 !IS0EBO-4>PSAT>ARISS*>APRSAT>WIDE>4P4TX3:'~<.l i/]73 FROM
SPACE

Also try the PSK transponder !

Have fun!
Henk PA3GUO





From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sat Jun 27 22:42:00 2015
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:42:00 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT is ready to be used on Fieldday 2015
In-Reply-To: <003f01d0b110$7b475590$71d600b0$@upcmail.nl>
References: <003f01d0b110$7b475590$71d600b0$@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfu1g-pX+NT-WyvP5aUynMtWOb0M6W7tXGqvbMy1Ydvgg@mail.gmail.com>

Henk,

Thanks for the update. I am planning to try the APRS digipeater this
evening, seeing if I can make any Field Day QSOs while at the office.
Even one QSO is better than nothing. :-)

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, PA3GUO <pa3guo at upcmail.nl> wrote:
> We just turned the APRS digipeater back on, so you can test your
> systems.
>
> (PSAT APRS was off for 2 days to adjust some internal parameters.)
>
> Everyone should be able to use it: uplink & downlink for APRS 145.825
> (UNPROTO APRS VIA ARISS)

From dphelps1 at ameritech.net  Sun Jun 28 00:30:14 2015
From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:30:14 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 Field day help needed
Message-ID: <1435451414.38315.YahooMailBasic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I have used my 847 with cat control without problem.  So far today, the 847 will not transmit in sat mode but works fine when not in sat mode.  Anyone have any quick suggestion?  I am hearing all satelite great but, in satellite mode, The TX indicator comes on but no actual power.  I would like to make my 1 contact before Field day is over.  Thank,

Doug
K9DLP


From dphelps1 at ameritech.net  Sun Jun 28 02:09:28 2015
From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:09:28 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler.sqf
Message-ID: <1435457368.29645.YahooMailBasic@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wouls someone please send me their current doppler.sqf file for field day use?

Thanks,

Doug
K9DLP

From k7trkradio at charter.net  Sun Jun 28 03:17:50 2015
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:17:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 Field day help needed
In-Reply-To: <1435451414.38315.YahooMailBasic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1435451414.38315.YahooMailBasic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d0b151$03dc9740$0b95c5c0$@charter.net>

If you are using HRD's sat program, it will not tune an FT-847

73, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Douglas
Phelps
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 5:30 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 Field day help needed

I have used my 847 with cat control without problem.  So far today, the 847
will not transmit in sat mode but works fine when not in sat mode.  Anyone
have any quick suggestion?  I am hearing all satelite great but, in
satellite mode, The TX indicator comes on but no actual power.  I would like
to make my 1 contact before Field day is over.  Thank,

Doug
K9DLP

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From dphelps1 at ameritech.net  Sun Jun 28 03:51:21 2015
From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:51:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 Field day help needed
In-Reply-To: <000c01d0b151$03dc9740$0b95c5c0$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1435463481.87888.YahooMailBasic@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I found the problem.  I had to factory reset the FT-847 to get it to work.  It is apparently a known issue that the FT-847 can get hung up if certain conditions exist.  It is working now.  I am using SatPC-32.

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 6/27/15, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] FT-847 Field day help needed
 To: "'Douglas Phelps'" <dphelps1 at ameritech.net>, amsat-bb at amsat.org
 Date: Saturday, June 27, 2015, 11:17 PM
 
 If you are using
 HRD's sat program, it will not tune an FT-847
 
 73, K7TRK
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org]
 On Behalf Of Douglas
 Phelps
 Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 5:30 PM
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 Field day help
 needed
 
 I have used my 847
 with cat control without problem.? So far today, the 847
 will not transmit in sat mode but works fine
 when not in sat mode.? Anyone
 have any
 quick suggestion?? I am hearing all satelite great but,
 in
 satellite mode, The TX indicator comes on
 but no actual power.? I would like
 to make
 my 1 contact before Field day is over.? Thank,
 
 Doug
 K9DLP
 
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From 4z1ws.sam at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 04:16:12 2015
From: 4z1ws.sam at gmail.com (Shamai Opfer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 07:16:12 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 Field day help needed
In-Reply-To: <1435451414.38315.YahooMailBasic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1435451414.38315.YahooMailBasic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADQG+9ZKKDHj_oxoV55ZExpxEnd5nL+=4dRD3tum5Dhb5d9u1Q@mail.gmail.com>

If no other choice, try manual transmission using the MOX push button at
the FT847 front left side.
Be careful not to leave the transmitter in TRANSMIT mode!

73 de 4z1ws
?????? 28 ???? 2015 03:33, "Douglas Phelps" <dphelps1 at ameritech.net> ???:

> I have used my 847 with cat control without problem.  So far today, the
> 847 will not transmit in sat mode but works fine when not in sat mode.
> Anyone have any quick suggestion?  I am hearing all satelite great but, in
> satellite mode, The TX indicator comes on but no actual power.  I would
> like to make my 1 contact before Field day is over.  Thank,
>
> Doug
> K9DLP
>
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From wao at vfr.net  Sun Jun 28 09:15:18 2015
From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:15:18 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-179 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <558FBB26.1020804@vfr.net>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-179

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* AMSAT Field Day on the Satellites
* Brazilian CubeSat NanosatC-Br 1 Team Requests Reception Reports
* FUNcube-1 / AO-73 Glitch and Commanded Reboot
* Kletskous Development News From the SA AMSAT Symposium
* North Texas Moon Day Event Annouced
* AMSAT Events
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-179.01
ANS-179 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 179.01
 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE June 28, 2015
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-179.01


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AMSAT Field Day on the Satellites


It?s that time of year again; summer and Field Day!  Each year the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL) sponsors Field Day as a ?picnic, a campout, 
practice
for emergencies, an informal contest and, most of all, FUN!?.  The event 
takes
place during a 24-hour period on the fourth weekend of June.  For 2015 the
event takes place during a 27-hour period from 1800 UTC on Saturday June 27,
2015 through 2100 UTC on Sunday June 28, 2015. Those who set up prior to 
1800
UTC on June 28 can operate only 24 hours.  The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation (AMSAT) promotes its own version of Field Day for operation 
via the
amateur satellites, held concurrently with the ARRL event.

If you are considering ONLY the FM voice satellite SaudiSat-Oscar-50 for 
your
AMSAT Field Day focus ? don?t ? unless you are simply hoping to make one
contact for the ARRL rules bonus points. The congestion on FM LEO satellites
was so intense in prior years that we must continue to limit their use 
to one-
QSO-per-FM-satellite. This includes the International Space Station. You 
will
be allowed one QSO if the ISS is operating Voice. You will also be 
allowed one
digital QSO with the ISS or any other digital, non-store-and-forward, packet
satellite (if operational).

Click for document:
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2015FieldDay.pdf

See:
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=216


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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Brazilian CubeSat NanosatC-Br 1 Team Requests Reception Reports


Edson, PY2SDR requests fellow amateur satellite operators listen for a
downlink signal from NanosatC-Br 1, the first Brazilian cubesat. NanosatC-Br
1 was launched on a Dnepr rocket from Dombarovsky near Yasny in 2014.

The 1U CubeSat carries an ISIS U/V transceiver with 1200 bps FM AX.25 UHF
command uplink and a 9600 bps BPSK downlink on 145.865 MHz.

NanosatC-BR1, is experiencing battery issues for the last several months and
it now seldom emits a beacon in CW. For some time, Paulo PV8DX, was able to
detect a beacon signal when the satellite was over the Caribbean sea during
daylight. But now, no more signals have been detected.

Edson would like to request assistance from hams in the northern hemisphere
to see if NanosatC-BR1 is still transmitting any signals. Any help will be
much appreciated.


[ANS thanks Edson, PY2SDR for the above information]


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FUNcube-1 / AO-73 Glitch and Commanded Reboot


On Sunday, June 21, there was an anomaly on FUNcube-1 that required the 
reboot
of the satellite?s MCU (Microcontroller).

After a bus freeze, the databus watchdog did kick in as expected and 
rebooted
the satellite. However, we did need to command the satellite back on to
automatic mode. When we did so on the 20:00 UTC pass, it came back up in 
the
correct mode.

We envisage to switch back to autonomous mode either tonight or tomorrow
morning local time. FUNcube is still happy and healthy. This is the 4th 
reboot
since launch, of which one was intentional. Thanks for your reports and
concerns.

On behalf of the whole team best 73s,

Wouter Weggelaar PA3WEG
FUNcube team

FUNcube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry:
? Dashboard App
http://funcube.org.uk/working-documents/funcube-telemetry-dashboard/
? Data Warehouse Archive
http://warehouse.funcube.org.uk/
? Whole orbit data
http://warehouse.funcube.org.uk/wod.html?satelliteId=2.


[ANS thanks the FUNcube Team and AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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Kletskous Development News From the SA AMSAT Symposium

At the SA AMSAT Symposium pre-conference Engineering meeting held on Friday
evening on June 19, 2015, members of the SA AMSAT CubeSat team reached some
decisions about the development and launch of the South African Kletskous
amateur radio satellite. During the past few years, various options and
subsystems have been experimented with.

The team has now set the launch date of Kletskous at July 2017 with the
first flight model to be ready by February 2016 for testing after which
final integration will start. This requires that various module designs are
locked down and built by October 2015. It is planned to have all the modules
wired together in a breadboard configuration for testing the interoperation
of the various subunits by December 2015. Some modules are at a more
advanced stage than others, but in the next few months, the team expect to
catch up and meet the deadline for the first breadboard test.

Frik Wolff, ZS6FZ, the League's technical manager, has joined the team and
is working on solar panels and stabilization issues. Francois Oberholzer, an
honors student at Stellenbosch University, is working on improving the
weight/strength relationship of the space frame, a project that is part of
his thesis. Nico van Rensburg, ZS6QL, as programme manager and the person
responsible for documentation, will support the project manager, Hannes
Coetzee, ZS6BZP.

There are many opportunities for radio amateurs to join the engineering
team. If you have a particular expertise or passion to add value to the
KLETSKOUS project, please discuss your participation with Hannes Coetzee or
any of the team members and send your details to saamsat at intekom.co,za.

The SA AMSAT website is at:
http//www.amsatsa.org.za/

See SARL
http://www.sarl.org.za/

KLETSkous
http://www.amsatsa.org.za/KLETSkous.htm


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and the SARL weekly news in English 2015-6-20 for the
above information]


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North Texas Moon Day Event Annouced


A great opportunity to showcase Amateur Radio and especially Amateur Radio
in space to the general public will be held on Saturday, July 18th at the
Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas, TX.  In commutation of the anniversary
of the Apollo 11 moon landing, the museum has celebrated "Moon Day" for the
last number of years as a STEM outreach specializing in astronomy, space
science and space flight past and future.

This year the Moon Day organizers decided to theme the day around the
International Space Station.  They applied for and were granted an ARISS
scheduled contact to become part of the event.  Keith Pugh, W5IU is serving
as ARISS mentor for the event and is working diligently on setting up all
the details of this "Telebridge" contact.  The museum is sponsoring an "Ask
a question of an astronaut" contest with details at
http://www.flightmuseum.com/iss-expedition-crew-43-question/
General details can be found at
http://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day-2015/
If you know young people interested in astronomy and space 
science/exploration,
have them check out the links and see if they submit a question to be used
during the ARISS contact.  Deadline for entry is June 30th.

In years past, several of us have participated in Moon Day activities by
manning an AMSAT table showing off Amateur Radio in space and even doing
some on-air contacts for and with interested participants.

Keith will be very busy all morning setting up and preparing for the ARISS
contact and has several individuals working with him on that.  I have
volunteered to help staff an AMSAT display table but need additional
volunteers to assist with the table and also to be available to make Amateur
Satellite contacts and demonstrations as the sats allow.  Please contact
Keith  w5iu at swbell.net or myself Tom Schuessler, n5hyp at arrl.net to volunteer
to help at least part of the day or the whole 10A-5P duration and tell us
what you can "Bring to the table" as it were.

Help us to support the Museum's ARISS contact and also to put a bug in the
ears of many event goers about the fun and challenge of Amateur Radio
Satellites.


[ANS thanks Tom Schuessler, N5HYP for the above information]


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AMSAT Events


Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around
the country.  Examples of these events are radio club meetings where
AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working
amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with
AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations,
forums, and/or demonstrations).

*Thursday, 9 July 2015 ? presentation for the Escondido Amateur Radio
Society in Escondido CA

*Friday and Saturday, 7-8 August 2015 ? Austin Summerfest in Austin TX

*Saturday and Sunday, 22-23 August 2015 ? Boxboro Hamfest and ARRL
New England Convention in Boxborough MA

*Saturday and Sunday,  5-6 September - ARRL Roanoke Division Convention
Shelby, NC Hamfest, AMSAT Forum scheduled for Saturday

*Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, October 16-18 2015, AMSAT Symposium in
Dayton OH (Dayton Crown Plaza)


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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ARISS News


Successful Contact

Universidad Tecnol?gica de Chile INACAP sede Temuco,  Temuco, Chile, via
telebridge W6SRJ ccontact was successful: Fri 2015-06-26 18:41:26 UTC
with ARISS Russian Team

Upcoming ARISS Contacts

Tulsa Community College, NE Campus, Tulsa, OK,  direct via WD5AGO
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS/RS?ISS  or
RS?ISS/OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is ARISS Russian Team
Contact is a go for:  Wed 2015-07-01 15:46:28 UTC

ARISS does not anticipate  any voice contacts from the ISS during this
weekend's Field Day.  But you  never know, so please listen in case they 
are on
the air.  Packet will  probably be  operational.

Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.


[ANS thanks ARISS, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over


* Satellite Grid Operation in Progress

GRID SQUARES TO BE ACTIVATED (Satellite Op). Ron, N8RO, announced that
he will be on a road trip during the period June 22nd and July 4th. He
plans to operate portable from EM50, EM84, EM99, FN13, FM28, FM04, EL79,
EL49 and possibly other grids along the way. Ron will operate on SO-50
and FO-29.

{ANS thanks the DX Newsletter  - DXNL 1942 - June 24, 2015 for the above
information]


* Inventors hope to launch 'backyard satellites' to fill gap in Australian
space exploration

Stuart McAndrew is making history from a backyard shed in suburban Perth.
The IT worker is building a satellite capable of being launched into 
space and
taking pictures of Earth.
Australia is the only OECD nation without a dedicated space agency, and Mr
McAndrew is one of a growing number of Australians turning to homemade space
exploration to fill the gap.
He has designed the satellite PocketQube, a Rubik's cube-sized box with
antennas, solar panels and electronics.
It is made from mostly off-the-shelf items, including aluminium from the 
local
hardware shop, a tape measure and electronics bought over the internet.
Mr McAndrew believes it is the first of its kind in Australia. He has been
working on the project for two years.

"Australia has been lagging behind in recent times," he said. "We were 
one of
the first countries to send an amateur satellite to space and then we 
dropped
the ball.
"The PocketQube gives us an opportunity to set that straight and it (will)
hopefully inspire other people to continue on this path and build a bigger
space industry for Australia."

Radical change described as 'Space 2.0'
Commercial satellites weigh hundreds or even thousands of kilograms and cost
millions of dollars to launch.
In comparison, nano-satellites can be made for as little as $1,000 and weigh
between one and 10 kilograms.
Mr McAndrew's creation is even smaller, weighing less than 200 grams.

But how an earth do you get it into space?
It takes a lot of planning and a very expensive taxi ride on a much larger
space craft.
"The actual launch cost for a pocket cube is around $30,000," Mr 
McAndrew said.
"That's a bit out of my reach so I'm looking to crowd source funding to help
me get my satellite into space."
About 80 nano-satellites were launched in 2013, while 132 went up in 2014.
It is estimated a further 500 will be in orbit by the end of this year.

The University of NSW is sending its own small satellites into space as part
of a global project.
Andrew Dempster, head of the university's Australian Centre for Space
Engineering Research, said the industry was going through a period of 
"radical
change".
"Cubesats are creating this idea that people describe as Space 2.0," he 
said.
"People like Stuart or universities like us can get relatively easy 
access to
space and it means you can develop space capability without a space agency."

Mr Dempster said Australia's lack of a space program was concerning.
"For many years we've been receiving some of our data for free ? we get our
our weather data from Japan; some of our remote sensing data we get from 
Europe
and the US," he said.
"The problem is that's going to come to an end.
"Budgets are being restricted around the world; NASA's budget in 
particular is
declining.
"So someone needs to be asking the question: what happens next?
"We're going to be left with our trousers down if we don't have a way of
providing the data we've become addicted to."

Inventors hope to 'unlock access to space'
Mr Dempster is hoping the rise of nano-satellites will encourage young
Australians to study science, technology, engineering and maths subjects and
put space on the agenda for a new generation.
"If you want to get young kids into science and so on, the things that do it
for them are dinosaurs and space," he said.
"The emergence of cubesats mean we can have our students working on 
something
that will actually be launched into space, which attracts good quality 
students
and very motivated people."

The expense and logistics of launching small satellites into space remains a
key problem.
An Australian organisation called the Delta-V Space Hub was formed last year
to solve it.
Tim Parsons is the head of Delta-V.
"There's no dedicated launcher for small spacecraft so typically we have to
piggyback off larger space launchers," he said.
"That means you have to deliver your spacecraft up to a year before the 
launch
and hope it doesn't go brown on the pad.
"Those are the biggest limitations right now: the frequency of launch
opportunities and how much time you need to get everything prepared."
Delta-V is working with the NSW Government, universities and start-up
companies to help people develop ideas and get their inventions into space.
"Our first step is really just to fly an aircraft that other people can put
(their satellites) onto, so essentially a rideshare model," he said.
"By doing that first model we will essentially unlock access to space."

Call to lower cost for launch certificate
For Mr McAndrew, the backyard inventor, there are still a few barriers to
overcome. He must first test his satellite before obtaining a launch
certificate from the Australian Government, which costs $10,000.
The fee is reduced to just $100 for educational and scientific institutions.
Mr McAndrew wants the Commonwealth to ease those financial requirements in
recognition of the industry's potential.
He is still hopeful of securing a place for his satellite onboard an Italian
spacecraft set to launch late next year.

"Space has always been seen as this pinnacle of engineering and it's not
necessarily the case," he said.
"I can't wait for the day when I see the rocket launch into space with my
satellite on board."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-22/backyard-satellite-fills-australian-
space-research-hole/6563614

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From jameshickox at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 28 10:23:29 2015
From: jameshickox at sbcglobal.net (James Hickox)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:23:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] uc:
Message-ID: <402265478.580518.1435487009667.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>



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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He that would live in peace and at ease, must not speak all he knows nor judge all he sees.Karan Fama

From kb2m at arrl.net  Sun Jun 28 14:01:49 2015
From: kb2m at arrl.net (kb2m at arrl.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:01:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] the donut effect
Message-ID: <008901d0b1aa$fae5b860$f0b12920$@net>

Is there anyway to get any APRS client to not Igate a packet with a path of
ARISS in it. I run a satgate here in NJ and the donut effect is causing
problems for several hams in the area that can't get a packet Igated after
it is digi'd by the ISS because it's a dup. My Igate hears the first packet
direct that then causes the ISS digi'd packet to be a dup.  It would seem to
be a simple thing to  set a filter to ignore a path of ARISS, and accept
everything else. I would think that this would fix the problem of people who
want to run Igates, but don't because of this. I recently moved to Florida
for the winter and had to shut my igate down in NJ for this reason. Also,  I
noticed when down there that there is a lack of satgates along the
eastcoast. ISS,PSAT, and PCSAT are hearing stations fine but no satgate's
available until the bird's footprint move well inland. 

 

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 


From wa4sca at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 16:00:24 2015
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:00:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Failure Today
Message-ID: <000001d0b1bb$8b6c84d0$a2458e70$@GMAIL.COM>


http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfyz92n	

Key point:  nobody hurt.


73s,

Alan
WA4SCA

-----------------------------------

Keep Calm and Carry On


From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 17:23:53 2015
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:23:53 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Failure Today
In-Reply-To: <000001d0b1bb$8b6c84d0$a2458e70$@GMAIL.COM>
References: <000001d0b1bb$8b6c84d0$a2458e70$@GMAIL.COM>
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkO1DwTZykK2kvV-AWpYU5jx5HiOPLbz0n9ePob5d6StFw@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/15, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:
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> http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfyz92n	
>
> Key point:  nobody hurt.

<snip>

The flight looked like it was proceeding normally until close before
the point when staging would have occurred.  I watched the video and I
didn't hear a controller mention anything unusual until the mishap
occurred.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 18:22:17 2015
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:22:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] uc:
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References: <402265478.580518.1435487009667.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKONmzMaPUVO_F=AMP1OEfhJ+8nXZukDmdXznTepVO+7_w@mail.gmail.com>

This is probably spam. Don't click.
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun Jun 28 19:04:39 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:04:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] the SATgate donut effect
Message-ID: <0e0650ed2466b85e687d1c6263735c82@mail.gmail.com>

The donut hole is a problem...  With two more APRS satellites to launch
this  year, we need -more- Omni Satgates with *lower* antennas.  The
vertical omni  1/4 or 3/4 wave satgate vertical antenna needs to be as low
as possible (to minimize the donut hole null and to reduce lightening
risk) while still seeing sky above 30 degrees.

See: http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Once I deliver the last of these next two transponders, I hope to build
such a satgate with a D7 HT and document its performance.  I can place the
HT at the base of the antenna with near zero coax, and being low, it is
not vulnerable to lightening compared to surrounding structures.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
kb2m at arrl.net
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:02 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] the donut effect

Is there anyway to get any APRS client to not Igate a packet with a path
of ARISS in it. I run a satgate here in NJ and the donut effect is causing
problems for several hams in the area that can't get a packet Igated after
it is digi'd by the ISS because it's a dup. My Igate hears the first
packet direct that then causes the ISS digi'd packet to be a dup.  It
would seem to be a simple thing to  set a filter to ignore a path of
ARISS, and accept everything else. I would think that this would fix the
problem of people who want to run Igates, but don't because of this. I
recently moved to Florida for the winter and had to shut my igate down in
NJ for this reason. Also,  I noticed when down there that there is a lack
of satgates along the eastcoast. ISS,PSAT, and PCSAT are hearing stations
fine but no satgate's available until the bird's footprint move well
inland.





73 Jeff kb2m



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From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun Jun 28 21:13:50 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:13:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (More work needed)
Message-ID: <5e52b53af45057a3aaee6cbea9525306@mail.gmail.com>

Well, someone with time to burn might want to check all these numbers.
Today I am getting inconsistent results and probably because to make a 9'
ground plane at 2m with good segment sizes, I need more than the 500 point
limit in EZNEC.

Also, to cover the USA with omni satgates with good gain above 25 degrees
will need almost 9 times as many satgates compared to the number with full
AZ/EL OSCAR arrays.  But then the omni satgates are 10? Times simpler...
(just your HT while  you are not actually using it)...

At this point we need to simply see what a 1/4 wave over a large ground
plane can actually HEAR.  It is easy to just run it for days and see how
many PSAT packets are received per 24 hours.  And then compare antennas
based on that number.  If a 1/4 wave can hear down to 25 degrees, then there
is no need for the higher 3/4 wave gain at higher angles.  Anyway, a great
opportunity for study.

-----Original Message-----
The gain of the 3/4 wave vertical is a real winner over the basic 1/4 wave
vertical for OMNI Satgates with no moving parts optimized for high elevation
gain above 30 deg.  Low elevations are simply covered by more SATgates....
New:  If we can get the angle down to 25 degrees then still need 9 times
more stations)

1/4 wave with radials:  -2 at 30 and -6 at 60  ==>  Basically a dipole
pattern

3/4 wave with radials:  +2 at 30 and -1 at 60  ==>  4 to 5 dB better, 2 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 3' gndpln:  +3 at 30 and +1 at 60 ==>  5 to 7 dB better, 3.3 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 6' gndpln:  +2 at 30 and +3 at 70 ==>  4 to 9 dB better, 5.5 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 9' gndpln: +3 at 30 and +3 at 65 ==>  5 to 9 dB better, 5.3 dBi
max
3/4 wave perfect gnd: +3 at 30 and +3 at 68 ==>  5 to 9 dB better, 6.9 dBi
max

Even the 3/4 vertical with just the four 19" radials gives a huge 4 to 5 dB
improvement over a classic ground plane for omni satellite  SATgate work.
Also, this antenna does not need to be high.  Just see sky above 30 deg.  In
fact, is better to be low to reduce terrestrial QRM.

Notice too that the Lilenblatt, eggbeaters, and all other "omni"s that try
to keep their gain down on the horizon, are equally as poor as the 1/4 wave
vertical at these higher elevations.  This is OK for strong satellits like
the ISS with 5 to 10 watts, but abisimal when all that gain on the horizon
is completely wasted when you cannot hear the satellite anyway because it is
6 to 10 dB farther away! The result is these "omni's" give up the 4 to 9 dB
at higher elevations where the satellite is much stronger.

Ill eventually put all this on the Omni SATGATE page:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Summary:  The 3/4 wave vertical makes it so you CAN hear LEO satellites 5 to
9 dB better when they are closer and  does this by giving  up on hearing
them when they are so far away you can't hear them anyway!

THE BIG QUESTION though is What is the lowest elevation angle at which an
OMNI can hear PSAT?

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page

> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

Good question.  Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane.  But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.  The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match.  They do not affect the pattern at all.

I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that  you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more.  I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.  And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

SO, the bigger the better.  It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...

This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Bob, WB4aPR


On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sun Jun 28 22:49:48 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:49:48 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM05/DM06 TODAY SO-50 01:00Z LotW
Message-ID: <853FADE5-EEA2-44CD-899B-F2D8F55F362F@kl7cn.net>

Will be active TODAY from DM05/DM06 line on  SO-50 at 01:00Z TODAY 2015-06-29Z. LotW confirmation. 

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 22:46:30 2015
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:46:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (More work needed)
References: <5e52b53af45057a3aaee6cbea9525306@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11CCDF05B67D41AA8C260C6F5E9E0F8F@OPT755>

>>> At this point we need to simply see what a 1/4 wave over a large ground
>>> plane can actually HEAR.  It is easy to just run it for days and see how
>>> many PSAT packets are received per 24 hours. 

Greetings Bob and everyone!

If I am the only person following this thread with minimal satellite experience, then please forgive the questions.  But on the chance that there are others like me who would be happy to contribute with just a little guidance, I write today.

I have actually received APRS packets from the ISS and for that matter have been digipeated using a simple 5/8 mag mount antenna oriented 90 degrees off vertical.  I only mention that to offer some background.

If someone would like to spell out exactly how to monitor the desired frequency and in turn contribute any received packets to the study you refer to, I would be most grateful.   Of course I can receive signals all day, but I'm not aware of how to forward anything useful to the database that populates the map you provided a link to.

Many thanks for all of your informative posts,

-Scott Chapman, K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Bruninga 
  To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 17:13
  Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (More work needed)


  Well, someone with time to burn might want to check all these numbers.
  Today I am getting inconsistent results and probably because to make a 9'
  ground plane at 2m with good segment sizes, I need more than the 500 point
  limit in EZNEC.

  Also, to cover the USA with omni satgates with good gain above 25 degrees
  will need almost 9 times as many satgates compared to the number with full
  AZ/EL OSCAR arrays.  But then the omni satgates are 10? Times simpler...
  (just your HT while  you are not actually using it)...

  At this point we need to simply see what a 1/4 wave over a large ground
  plane can actually HEAR.  It is easy to just run it for days and see how
  many PSAT packets are received per 24 hours.  And then compare antennas
  based on that number.  If a 1/4 wave can hear down to 25 degrees, then there
  is no need for the higher 3/4 wave gain at higher angles.  Anyway, a great
  opportunity for study.

  -----Original Message-----
  The gain of the 3/4 wave vertical is a real winner over the basic 1/4 wave
  vertical for OMNI Satgates with no moving parts optimized for high elevation
  gain above 30 deg.  Low elevations are simply covered by more SATgates....
  New:  If we can get the angle down to 25 degrees then still need 9 times
  more stations)

  1/4 wave with radials:  -2 at 30 and -6 at 60  ==>  Basically a dipole
  pattern

  3/4 wave with radials:  +2 at 30 and -1 at 60  ==>  4 to 5 dB better, 2 dBi
  max
  3/4 wave w 3' gndpln:  +3 at 30 and +1 at 60 ==>  5 to 7 dB better, 3.3 dBi
  max
  3/4 wave w 6' gndpln:  +2 at 30 and +3 at 70 ==>  4 to 9 dB better, 5.5 dBi
  max
  3/4 wave w 9' gndpln: +3 at 30 and +3 at 65 ==>  5 to 9 dB better, 5.3 dBi
  max
  3/4 wave perfect gnd: +3 at 30 and +3 at 68 ==>  5 to 9 dB better, 6.9 dBi
  max

  Even the 3/4 vertical with just the four 19" radials gives a huge 4 to 5 dB
  improvement over a classic ground plane for omni satellite  SATgate work.
  Also, this antenna does not need to be high.  Just see sky above 30 deg.  In
  fact, is better to be low to reduce terrestrial QRM.

  Notice too that the Lilenblatt, eggbeaters, and all other "omni"s that try
  to keep their gain down on the horizon, are equally as poor as the 1/4 wave
  vertical at these higher elevations.  This is OK for strong satellits like
  the ISS with 5 to 10 watts, but abisimal when all that gain on the horizon
  is completely wasted when you cannot hear the satellite anyway because it is
  6 to 10 dB farther away! The result is these "omni's" give up the 4 to 9 dB
  at higher elevations where the satellite is much stronger.

  Ill eventually put all this on the Omni SATGATE page:
  http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

  Summary:  The 3/4 wave vertical makes it so you CAN hear LEO satellites 5 to
  9 dB better when they are closer and  does this by giving  up on hearing
  them when they are so far away you can't hear them anyway!

  THE BIG QUESTION though is What is the lowest elevation angle at which an
  OMNI can hear PSAT?

  Bob, WB4APR

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
  Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page

  > One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
  > Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

  Good question.  Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
  plane.  But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
  get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.  The radials are just providing a
  "groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
  match.  They do not affect the pattern at all.

  I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that  you
  get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
  big or more.  I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
  (skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.  And how "radials" (above
  actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

  SO, the bigger the better.  It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
  it very large...

  This is the page in question:
  http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

  Bob, WB4aPR


  On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
  > Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
  >
  > Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
  > opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
  > following WEB page:
  >
  > http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
  >
  > It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
  > a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
  > moving parts.
  > It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
  > simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
  > IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
  > receiver system in the world (?).
  >
  > But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
  > IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
  > horizon on a whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
  > need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA
  > we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
  >
  > To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
  > successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
  > that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
  > 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING
  > IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
  > these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
  > when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
  >
  > The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
  > antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
  > any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
  > cloud satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
  > to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
  >
  > If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
  > then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the
  > low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
  > Put
  > the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31
  > comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
  >
  > Bob, WB4APR
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From jeff_griffin at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 00:11:38 2015
From: jeff_griffin at comcast.net (jeff_griffin)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 20:11:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] the SATgate donut effect
In-Reply-To: <0e0650ed2466b85e687d1c6263735c82@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0e0650ed2466b85e687d1c6263735c82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a001d0b200$3073bd60$915b3820$@net>

Bob,
I think it would get you a lot more Igates if you/we could convince the APRS
s/w authors to put in my simple fix. I mean really, how many people are
going to put in a 9 square foot ground mounted vertical? I couldn't in
either of my homes, the landscapers would take it out in no time, the only
place for a small vertical is mounted off the ground...

73 Jeff kb2m  

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 3:05 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] the SATgate donut effect

The donut hole is a problem...  With two more APRS satellites to launch this
year, we need -more- Omni Satgates with *lower* antennas.  The vertical omni
1/4 or 3/4 wave satgate vertical antenna needs to be as low as possible (to
minimize the donut hole null and to reduce lightening
risk) while still seeing sky above 30 degrees.

See: http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Once I deliver the last of these next two transponders, I hope to build such
a satgate with a D7 HT and document its performance.  I can place the HT at
the base of the antenna with near zero coax, and being low, it is not
vulnerable to lightening compared to surrounding structures.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
kb2m at arrl.net
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:02 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] the donut effect

Is there anyway to get any APRS client to not Igate a packet with a path of
ARISS in it. I run a satgate here in NJ and the donut effect is causing
problems for several hams in the area that can't get a packet Igated after
it is digi'd by the ISS because it's a dup. My Igate hears the first packet
direct that then causes the ISS digi'd packet to be a dup.  It would seem to
be a simple thing to  set a filter to ignore a path of ARISS, and accept
everything else. I would think that this would fix the problem of people who
want to run Igates, but don't because of this. I recently moved to Florida
for the winter and had to shut my igate down in NJ for this reason. Also,  I
noticed when down there that there is a lack of satgates along the
eastcoast. ISS,PSAT, and PCSAT are hearing stations fine but no satgate's
available until the bird's footprint move well inland.





73 Jeff kb2m



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From skristof at etczone.net  Sun Jun 28 23:42:07 2015
From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:42:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 help
Message-ID: <04C9C5016F48474DA923C4848B72D78F@StevePC>

I could use some help here. For the third time this week, I've gone outside during what was supposed to be a nice high pass of SO-50, pointed my Arrow in (what I think is) the right direction and I hear nothing. Just now, I was supposed to have a max elevation of 80 degrees at EM79. Should have been an easy one. But I hear nothing.
In the past I've had QSOs on SO-50 with some of you, so you know I know how to point the antenna and use the radios.
Does anyone else use the Pass Predictions on the AMSAT page? That's what I've been using, but it's starting to seem like the satellite isn't where the prediction says it is.
I'd really appreciate some replies on this one. If other folks are finding the AMSAT Prediction Page for SO-50 to be correct, then I'll know it's me and I'll check all my radios and connections one more time.Thank you.

Steve Kristoff AI9IN
skristof at etczone.com


From jlb3nn at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 29 00:27:35 2015
From: jlb3nn at bellsouth.net (Jim Bennett)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 20:27:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.
Message-ID: <008a01d0b202$66a51d00$33ef5700$@net>

Hey guys.   

 

I just took a lighting strike the other day.  Wipe out the big stick in the
air.  Also took out one preamp and possible a circular polarization switch
on the sat antennas alone with both PCs that I had, a power supply, plus my
network.  The pair of KLM appear ok.  So I am going to redo my tower layout.
New coax(probably hard line), new preamps, new cp switch and new control
cable to the preamps and CP switches. Rotor cables appear good, but will
check to make sure.

 

I put this system together about 20 years ago.  So I am starting out fresh
trying to find the stuff.  Is Lanwear amps still available?  If not, what is
the next best. Are there any shelf available CP switches.  The ones I have
were on the antennas when purchased.  And they appear home built.

 

Any suggestions are appreciate.

 

Jim

Ke4kol

 


From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 29 01:20:59 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:20:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 help
In-Reply-To: <04C9C5016F48474DA923C4848B72D78F@StevePC>
References: <04C9C5016F48474DA923C4848B72D78F@StevePC>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrcBz67bU81tEUTpHvUGXn_XXWa6+MfLNZRRa-_rdUDBg@mail.gmail.com>

Steve.

Describe your setup. Are you using the Arrow diplexer?

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof at etczone.net> wrote:
> I could use some help here. For the third time this week, I've gone outside during what was supposed to be a nice high pass of SO-50, pointed my Arrow in (what I think is) the right direction and I hear nothing. Just now, I was supposed to have a max elevation of 80 degrees at EM79. Should have been an easy one. But I hear nothing.
> In the past I've had QSOs on SO-50 with some of you, so you know I know how to point the antenna and use the radios.
> Does anyone else use the Pass Predictions on the AMSAT page? That's what I've been using, but it's starting to seem like the satellite isn't where the prediction says it is.
> I'd really appreciate some replies on this one. If other folks are finding the AMSAT Prediction Page for SO-50 to be correct, then I'll know it's me and I'll check all my radios and connections one more time.Thank you.
>
> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
> skristof at etczone.com
>
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jun 29 01:54:36 2015
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:54:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (5/8 wave)
Message-ID: <22fcbbb1f8a3a1c2a9463674b365b49d@mail.gmail.com>

> I have actually received APRS packets from the ISS and for that matter
have been digipeated using a simple 5/8 mag mount antenna oriented 90
degrees off vertical.  I only mention that to offer some background.



Ah, but the ISS is 10W compared to PSAT?s 0.3W, so it is 15 dB stronger and
any piece of wire as an antenna can hear ISS, even in the very strong NULL
that a 5/8 wave antenna has above 15 degrees.  All of my comments are
trying to help SatGates hear the weak ones?



> I'm not aware of how to forward anything useful to the database that
populates the map you provided a link to.



That is simple or hard.  Depending on your patience with software.  Any
APRS software just about automatically becomes a SatGate  if you leave your
radio tuned to 145.825 and leave your PC running th software connected to
the internet.  Then your station feeds the  pcsat.aprs.org satellite
downlink data base.



Hope that helps.



Bob, WB4aPR


------------------------------
------------------------------

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>

*To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org

*Sent:* Sunday, June 28, 2015 17:13

*Subject:* [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (More work needed)



Well, someone with time to burn might want to check all these numbers.
Today I am getting inconsistent results and probably because to make a 9'
ground plane at 2m with good segment sizes, I need more than the 500 point
limit in EZNEC.

Also, to cover the USA with omni satgates with good gain above 25 degrees
will need almost 9 times as many satgates compared to the number with full
AZ/EL OSCAR arrays.  But then the omni satgates are 10? Times simpler...
(just your HT while  you are not actually using it)...

At this point we need to simply see what a 1/4 wave over a large ground
plane can actually HEAR.  It is easy to just run it for days and see how
many PSAT packets are received per 24 hours.  And then compare antennas
based on that number.  If a 1/4 wave can hear down to 25 degrees, then there
is no need for the higher 3/4 wave gain at higher angles.  Anyway, a great
opportunity for study.

-----Original Message-----
The gain of the 3/4 wave vertical is a real winner over the basic 1/4 wave
vertical for OMNI Satgates with no moving parts optimized for high elevation
gain above 30 deg.  Low elevations are simply covered by more SATgates....
New:  If we can get the angle down to 25 degrees then still need 9 times
more stations)

1/4 wave with radials:  -2 at 30 and -6 at 60  ==>  Basically a dipole
pattern

3/4 wave with radials:  +2 at 30 and -1 at 60  ==>  4 to 5 dB better, 2 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 3' gndpln:  +3 at 30 and +1 at 60 ==>  5 to 7 dB better, 3.3 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 6' gndpln:  +2 at 30 and +3 at 70 ==>  4 to 9 dB better, 5.5 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 9' gndpln: +3 at 30 and +3 at 65 ==>  5 to 9 dB better, 5.3 dBi
max
3/4 wave perfect gnd: +3 at 30 and +3 at 68 ==>  5 to 9 dB better, 6.9 dBi
max

Even the 3/4 vertical with just the four 19" radials gives a huge 4 to 5 dB
improvement over a classic ground plane for omni satellite  SATgate work.
Also, this antenna does not need to be high.  Just see sky above 30 deg.  In
fact, is better to be low to reduce terrestrial QRM.

Notice too that the Lilenblatt, eggbeaters, and all other "omni"s that try
to keep their gain down on the horizon, are equally as poor as the 1/4 wave
vertical at these higher elevations.  This is OK for strong satellits like
the ISS with 5 to 10 watts, but abisimal when all that gain on the horizon
is completely wasted when you cannot hear the satellite anyway because it is
6 to 10 dB farther away! The result is these "omni's" give up the 4 to 9 dB
at higher elevations where the satellite is much stronger.

Ill eventually put all this on the Omni SATGATE page:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Summary:  The 3/4 wave vertical makes it so you CAN hear LEO satellites 5 to
9 dB better when they are closer and  does this by giving  up on hearing
them when they are so far away you can't hear them anyway!

THE BIG QUESTION though is What is the lowest elevation angle at which an
OMNI can hear PSAT?

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu <bruninga at usna.edu>]
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page

> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

Good question.  Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane.  But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.  The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match.  They do not affect the pattern at all.

I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that  you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more.  I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.  And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

SO, the bigger the better.  It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...

This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Bob, WB4aPR


On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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From clintbradford at mac.com  Mon Jun 29 01:56:29 2015
From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:56:29 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Help
Message-ID: <CB374473-9E17-4217-B08D-7607ED423FAE@mac.com>

Sorry you are having trouble with SO-50 ...

Use TWO sat pass data sources as you work it. JUST IN CASE one is not set up 
properly with your geographical area ... or the wrong time of day.

And make sure the Keplerian data is current on whatever you use.

There's a widget on my SAT SKEDS page that shows you where SO-50 is live -

http://www.work-sat.com

Also on the home page is the frequency programming chart for SO-50, FOX-1A, and 
the ISS.

Let me know if any of this helps!!!

Clint K6LCS
909-241-7666 - cell

From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 29 02:00:03 2015
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:00:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
Message-ID: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>

How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard
quite a bit of struggling too!

Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my
apartment building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which
wasn't easy with how overloaded the transponders were with strong
signals.

Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From glennmaillist at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 29 02:09:37 2015
From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:09:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.
In-Reply-To: <008a01d0b202$66a51d00$33ef5700$@net>
References: <008a01d0b202$66a51d00$33ef5700$@net>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20150628220518.03ab7008@mail.bellsouth.net>

Number one on the list is a good tower ground bonded to the single 
point service entrance ground at the house.
MIL-HDBK-419 addresses this very well.
When this is followed, you will have very minimum problems, unless, 
you take a direct strike.
This can be minimized with static dissipators.
When was the last time you saw a FAA communications tower that took a 
hit with any damaged equipment??

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



At 08:27 PM 6/28/2015, Jim Bennett wrote:
>Hey guys.
>
>
>
>I just took a lighting strike the other day.  Wipe out the big stick in the
>air.  Also took out one preamp and possible a circular polarization switch
>on the sat antennas alone with both PCs that I had, a power supply, plus my
>network.  The pair of KLM appear ok.  So I am going to redo my tower layout.
>New coax(probably hard line), new preamps, new cp switch and new control
>cable to the preamps and CP switches. Rotor cables appear good, but will
>check to make sure.
>
>
>
>I put this system together about 20 years ago.  So I am starting out fresh
>trying to find the stuff.  Is Lanwear amps still available?  If not, what is
>the next best. Are there any shelf available CP switches.  The ones I have
>were on the antennas when purchased.  And they appear home built.
>
>
>
>Any suggestions are appreciate.
>
>
>
>Jim
>
>Ke4kol
>
>
>
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From steve.w5iem at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 02:15:53 2015
From: steve.w5iem at gmail.com (Steve May)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 02:15:53 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Failure Today
In-Reply-To: <CAP7QzkO1DwTZykK2kvV-AWpYU5jx5HiOPLbz0n9ePob5d6StFw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d0b1bb$8b6c84d0$a2458e70$@GMAIL.COM>
	<CAP7QzkO1DwTZykK2kvV-AWpYU5jx5HiOPLbz0n9ePob5d6StFw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE0P9VefWE92m273OshXONXFtyoqKJhez2wRA-BM9+ndih0T-g@mail.gmail.com>

I'm curious about the payloads on these rockets that fail. Is there any
guarantee on the "delivery" of the payloads, even the paid ones? Or is
there any sort of insurance that can be purchased in events such as this?

Steve, W5IEM

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015, 1:24 PM B J <va6bmj at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/28/15, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfyz92n
> >
> > Key point:  nobody hurt.
>
> <snip>
>
> The flight looked like it was proceeding normally until close before
> the point when staging would have occurred.  I watched the video and I
> didn't hear a controller mention anything unusual until the mishap
> occurred.
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 02:21:37 2015
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:21:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
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Overall it was good. As for satellites it was a bust. For the 7pm
Eastern SO-50 pass, 70 degrees here in North Carolina, I found a good
spot in the field and found markers for the AOS, max elevation and
LOS. Then a major storm front came through which wiped out all
possibility of making any contacts. Most of us took cover in the
garage. I stayed at my local club's field day and worked some 40
meters and socialized and ended up trying the 3:30am pass, only 31
degrees over the Atlantic ocean. I figured it wouldn't be a "melee" as
I've heard it described on FD since it didn't cover as much land and
was at such a late time. It wasn't jam packed but it wasn't easy to
work either. I heard a normal amount of people in my opinion, maybe
less, but it didn't seem like people were completing QSOs. I never got
into the bird AFAICT. I was trying to operate a bit differently than
normal. Normally I just put my call out and let people come back but
this time I was trying to follow who was on, what their calls and
section/type info were and call them back, but I guess with the
overall lack of contacts being made and confusion I was confused with
who was available and who was still trying to make contact. By the
time I tried putting my call out or calling people half the pass was
already over and like I said I never even got in. I think I also may
not have been aiming right because it was hard to see my markers in
the dark. Plus I was tired and more nervous than normal because I
setup differently than normal. Normally I set my gear on top of my car
but because the field was wet and uneven I couldn't put my car out
there so I had to setup with a battery and put my gear (I use two
mobile radios) on a step ladder. Gah! It was quite disappointing. I
really wanted to get my club the bonus points. I have a recording of
the madness if anyone wants it. Sorry for the rant but you asked!
haha. Next time I hope to be more skilled and more prepared. :-)

John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC FM05


On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard
> quite a bit of struggling too!
>
> Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my
> apartment building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which
> wasn't easy with how overloaded the transponders were with strong
> signals.
>
> Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From w6gyc at w6gyc.com  Mon Jun 29 01:44:20 2015
From: w6gyc at w6gyc.com (Mike Jones, W6GYC)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:44:20 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Software
Message-ID: <5590A2F4.6090105@w6gyc.com>

Hello.  My name is Mike Jones, W6GYC.  I help out with content on the 
AMSAT.ORG web site.

The software pages currently on AMSAT.ORG are a bit out of date I it has 
been decided to bring them a bit more current.

What I would like to do is hear from the satellite community on what 
software they are using for their Amateur Satellite operations. Remember 
I would like to hear not just a list of software apps, but what you 
actually use in your day-to-day operations.

Please include the following:

Title
Website (if available)
Type of software (commercial, shareware, freeware, etc)
Cost if appropriate
Platform (Windows, MAC, Linux, mobile (Android, iOS, other, multiple)
What distribution you use if applicable
Is the software included in your distribution repositories, or third 
party download, build, etc
Short description if possible

Please feel free to include any additional information you may feel 
important.

I have created a special, personal email account for this, please do not 
spam the mailing list.

Please send to:  satsoft at w6gyc.com

Thank you in advance


-- 


73
Mike Jones W6GYC - AMSAT Number: 38250
Home Grid: DM04rl
http://w6gyc.com



From dirkswyatt10 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 02:42:26 2015
From: dirkswyatt10 at gmail.com (Wyatt Dirks)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:42:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD_amwH__0vUq7pbj5XL5gAQGt3+dh2YqKtasJ69Z1ur95hSkw@mail.gmail.com>

Had a decent time here in Iowa operating as W0GQ. Missed out on several
ao73 passes Sunday do to weather and the failure of 2 genorators at the
same time. Seemed to me like activity was about the same on the sats as in
the past minus the early fo29 passes. The far west fo29 pass Sunday morning
had less then 10 people on.

I still need to locate my log book in the pile of gear but had close to 80
qsos all on ssb except for 1 so50 qso which as normal was the hardest qso
to pull off. Being right in the middle of the US everytime I have footprint
there are others already on. The biggest problem are the amount of people
calling cq on so50.

Also managed 2 ao7 mode a contacts. On the last 2 passes of ao7 I couldn't
hear it on mode b or mode a but reports were it was very weak on mode a.
The 2 qsos I made on mode a were solid copy so not sure what happened the
following passes.

Station used here was same basic station I setup at home. Ic9100 with 7
elements on 2m horizontal and 2 8ft 435 yagis with switch for vertical and
horizontal all mounted on a g5500 at about 24ft. For 10m downlink on ao7 I
used a moxon at 40ft.

Personal best for me on amsat field day so pretty pleased and had a good
time.

73 Wyatt
AC0RA
On Jun 28, 2015 9:00 PM, "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard
> quite a bit of struggling too!
>
> Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my
> apartment building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which
> wasn't easy with how overloaded the transponders were with strong
> signals.
>
> Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Mon Jun 29 03:02:34 2015
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:02:34 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Failure Today
In-Reply-To: <CAE0P9VefWE92m273OshXONXFtyoqKJhez2wRA-BM9+ndih0T-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d0b1bb$8b6c84d0$a2458e70$@GMAIL.COM>	<CAP7QzkO1DwTZykK2kvV-AWpYU5jx5HiOPLbz0n9ePob5d6StFw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE0P9VefWE92m273OshXONXFtyoqKJhez2wRA-BM9+ndih0T-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5590B54A.3010508@coloradosatellite.com>

In general:
- Government payloads don't buy insurance as they consider themselves 
self insuring.
- Commercial payloads nearly always buy insurance, usually against 
launch failure and on-orbit failure.  The premiums can be as much as 1/3 
the cost of the satellite and launch.  The exceptions are the really big 
goesync fleet operators who self insure.
- Small payloads like universities would not want to pay for insurance 
and there is no one who would write that policy anyway.

The launch vehicle folks do not guarantee delivery.  In fact their 
contracts have more pages absolving themselves of blame or liability 
than any other part of the contract.  For smallish sats going along with 
big sats the launch vehicle contracts often don't even guarantee they 
will put your sat on a particular launch or into a particular orbit. 
There are exceptions of course, directly tied to how much you are 
willing to pay.

Jim

On 6/28/2015 8:15 PM, Steve May wrote:
> I'm curious about the payloads on these rockets that fail. Is there any
> guarantee on the "delivery" of the payloads, even the paid ones? Or is
> there any sort of insurance that can be purchased in events such as this?
>
> Steve, W5IEM
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015, 1:24 PM B J <va6bmj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/15, Alan <wa4sca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfyz92n
>>>
>>> Key point:  nobody hurt.
>> <snip>
>>
>> The flight looked like it was proceeding normally until close before
>> the point when staging would have occurred.  I watched the video and I
>> didn't hear a controller mention anything unusual until the mishap
>> occurred.
>>
>> 73s
>>
>> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Mon Jun 29 09:43:56 2015
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 02:43:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] KL7CN/W6 from DM05/DM06 in LotW
Message-ID: <461A4A60-5F7E-4C19-8D77-FD52199C667D@kl7cn.net>

Hello, AMSAT-BB!

The following stations are in the log from yesterday's operations in DM05/DM06. The QSOs are uploaded to LotW:

SO-50 at 01:00Z:

AA5PK
W0DHB
KJ6WNS
KK6OTJ
KG5CCI
W7JPI -- Hi, Leo!
NX9B
N8HM -- Awesome that we made it, Paul!
N8XQM -- At something like 3 degrees. Always wait until the very end of the pass!

Please let me know if you have any trouble claiming the QSLs from both grids.

73!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6

From kb2m at arrl.net  Mon Jun 29 10:42:59 2015
From: kb2m at arrl.net (kb2m at arrl.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:42:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <012801d0b258$62089460$2619bd20$@net>

I worked two passes, one on FO-29, the other AO-73. I was trying to work
stations that appeared to me, to be looking for their only contact. I made 2
contacts. I just looked at my notes, I had over 15 calls written down,
another words I heard them but they weren't hearing me. My guess is that all
of them couldn't find or hear me on their downlink. The one regular sat user
I did work was Paul, on the first call. A usual FD on the sats :-)

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:00 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day

How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard quite
a bit of struggling too!

Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my apartment
building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which wasn't easy with
how overloaded the transponders were with strong signals.

Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.

73,

Paul, N8HM


From wa4sca at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 12:35:57 2015
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:35:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <012801d0b258$62089460$2619bd20$@net>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<012801d0b258$62089460$2619bd20$@net>
Message-ID: <003d01d0b268$26585350$7308f9f0$@GMAIL.COM>

Jeff,

FO-29 sounded like 20 m, with many excellent signals.  A few stations, such as K4BFT, were grinding
out the contacts like a machine!  The usual problem was that people were not hearing replies.  And
then there was the "numbers station," fortunately high in the passband, who seemed to spend the entire
pass saying "one two three, one two three," with never a call.  I actually called the "numbers
station," but never got a reply.

And a good time was had by all.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of kb2m at arrl.net
<Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:43 AM
<To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day
<
<I worked two passes, one on FO-29, the other AO-73. I was trying to work
<stations that appeared to me, to be looking for their only contact. I made 2
<contacts. I just looked at my notes, I had over 15 calls written down,
<another words I heard them but they weren't hearing me. My guess is that all
<of them couldn't find or hear me on their downlink. The one regular sat user
<I did work was Paul, on the first call. A usual FD on the sats :-)
<
<73 Jeff kb2m
<
<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
<Stoetzer
<Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:00 PM
<To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
<Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
<
<How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard quite
<a bit of struggling too!
<
<Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my apartment
<building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which wasn't easy with
<how overloaded the transponders were with strong signals.
<
<Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.
<
<73,
<
<Paul, N8HM
<
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From richard.siff at verizon.net  Mon Jun 29 12:37:58 2015
From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:37:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <012801d0b258$62089460$2619bd20$@net>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<012801d0b258$62089460$2619bd20$@net>
Message-ID: <DF1044DFB3D94564B9704E8FFDC3AE13@RichardPC>

K4AMG was GOTA station for W4CAR.  The Lea's operated both FO29 and HF.

I noticed on our first FO 29 pass that our 2 meter preamp had blown form a 
storm that passed within a few miles of us so there were no contacts then. 
It was receiving ISS before the storm.  So we removed the preamp and made 
contacts the next pass.  Seems when the preamp blows the switching circuit 
goes too.  The kids made another 5 contacts on FO 29 later.  They did an 
equally well job on HF.

There are a bunch of stills and videos that WX4TV will assemble in to a 
short program.

N2COP ARRL Vice Director Roanoke Division dropped by and took pictures with 
the kids next to our SATCOM antennas.

Despite the storms and tornado warnings we had a great time at FD.

God Bless

R
W4BUE

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kb2m at arrl.net>
To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day


>I worked two passes, one on FO-29, the other AO-73. I was trying to work
> stations that appeared to me, to be looking for their only contact. I made 
> 2
> contacts. I just looked at my notes, I had over 15 calls written down,
> another words I heard them but they weren't hearing me. My guess is that 
> all
> of them couldn't find or hear me on their downlink. The one regular sat 
> user
> I did work was Paul, on the first call. A usual FD on the sats :-)
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Stoetzer
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:00 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
>
> How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard 
> quite
> a bit of struggling too!
>
> Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my 
> apartment
> building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which wasn't easy 
> with
> how overloaded the transponders were with strong signals.
>
> Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions 
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of 
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From mjohns166 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 13:12:36 2015
From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:12:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (5/8 wave)
In-Reply-To: <22fcbbb1f8a3a1c2a9463674b365b49d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22fcbbb1f8a3a1c2a9463674b365b49d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <118105799.1584507.1435583556536.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

> Any APRS software just about automatically becomes a SatGate ?> if you leave your radio tuned to 145.825 and leave your PC running?> the software connected to the internet. ?Then your station feeds the ?> pcsat.aprs.org satellite downlink data base.
Bob,
Can you elaborate on this? I've looked over the UISS docs and I see absolutely nothing about this function. To what web address is this data being sent? In what form? What control does the user have over this?--?Mark D. Johns, K?MDJDecorah, Iowa USA EN43-----------------------------------------------?"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,?you would stay out and your dog would go in."???? ---Mark Twain
      From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (5/8 wave)
   
> I have actually received APRS packets from the ISS and for that matter
have been digipeated using a simple 5/8 mag mount antenna oriented 90
degrees off vertical.? I only mention that to offer some background.



Ah, but the ISS is 10W compared to PSAT?s 0.3W, so it is 15 dB stronger and
any piece of wire as an antenna can hear ISS, even in the very strong NULL
that a 5/8 wave antenna has above 15 degrees.? All of my comments are
trying to help SatGates hear the weak ones?



> I'm not aware of how to forward anything useful to the database that
populates the map you provided a link to.



That is simple or hard.? Depending on your patience with software.? Any
APRS software just about automatically becomes a SatGate? if you leave your
radio tuned to 145.825 and leave your PC running th software connected to
the internet.? Then your station feeds the? pcsat.aprs.org satellite
downlink data base.



Hope that helps.



Bob, WB4aPR


------------------------------
------------------------------

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>

*To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org

*Sent:* Sunday, June 28, 2015 17:13

*Subject:* [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (More work needed)



Well, someone with time to burn might want to check all these numbers.
Today I am getting inconsistent results and probably because to make a 9'
ground plane at 2m with good segment sizes, I need more than the 500 point
limit in EZNEC.

Also, to cover the USA with omni satgates with good gain above 25 degrees
will need almost 9 times as many satgates compared to the number with full
AZ/EL OSCAR arrays.? But then the omni satgates are 10? Times simpler...
(just your HT while? you are not actually using it)...

At this point we need to simply see what a 1/4 wave over a large ground
plane can actually HEAR.? It is easy to just run it for days and see how
many PSAT packets are received per 24 hours.? And then compare antennas
based on that number.? If a 1/4 wave can hear down to 25 degrees, then there
is no need for the higher 3/4 wave gain at higher angles.? Anyway, a great
opportunity for study.

-----Original Message-----
The gain of the 3/4 wave vertical is a real winner over the basic 1/4 wave
vertical for OMNI Satgates with no moving parts optimized for high elevation
gain above 30 deg.? Low elevations are simply covered by more SATgates....
New:? If we can get the angle down to 25 degrees then still need 9 times
more stations)

1/4 wave with radials:? -2 at 30 and -6 at 60? ==>? Basically a dipole
pattern

3/4 wave with radials:? +2 at 30 and -1 at 60? ==>? 4 to 5 dB better, 2 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 3' gndpln:? +3 at 30 and +1 at 60 ==>? 5 to 7 dB better, 3.3 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 6' gndpln:? +2 at 30 and +3 at 70 ==>? 4 to 9 dB better, 5.5 dBi
max
3/4 wave w 9' gndpln: +3 at 30 and +3 at 65 ==>? 5 to 9 dB better, 5.3 dBi
max
3/4 wave perfect gnd: +3 at 30 and +3 at 68 ==>? 5 to 9 dB better, 6.9 dBi
max

Even the 3/4 vertical with just the four 19" radials gives a huge 4 to 5 dB
improvement over a classic ground plane for omni satellite? SATgate work.
Also, this antenna does not need to be high.? Just see sky above 30 deg.? In
fact, is better to be low to reduce terrestrial QRM.

Notice too that the Lilenblatt, eggbeaters, and all other "omni"s that try
to keep their gain down on the horizon, are equally as poor as the 1/4 wave
vertical at these higher elevations.? This is OK for strong satellits like
the ISS with 5 to 10 watts, but abisimal when all that gain on the horizon
is completely wasted when you cannot hear the satellite anyway because it is
6 to 10 dB farther away! The result is these "omni's" give up the 4 to 9 dB
at higher elevations where the satellite is much stronger.

Ill eventually put all this on the Omni SATGATE page:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Summary:? The 3/4 wave vertical makes it so you CAN hear LEO satellites 5 to
9 dB better when they are closer and? does this by giving? up on hearing
them when they are so far away you can't hear them anyway!

THE BIG QUESTION though is What is the lowest elevation angle at which an
OMNI can hear PSAT?

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu <bruninga at usna.edu>]
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page

> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

Good question.? Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane.? But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.? The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match.? They do not affect the pattern at all.

I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that? you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more.? I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.? And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

SO, the bigger the better.? It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...

This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Bob, WB4aPR


On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates.? The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip.? But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.? For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net ? Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.? But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages.? Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.? With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.? When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 13:47:38 2015
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:47:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (5/8 wave)
In-Reply-To: <118105799.1584507.1435583556536.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <22fcbbb1f8a3a1c2a9463674b365b49d@mail.gmail.com>
	<118105799.1584507.1435583556536.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FfxpcsToCKpONh-XDmdRRpwx+h89Jsbrf9J1f8yyUEpuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

UISS has a Satgate add on module to gate packets like Bob is talking about.

http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/uissmodules.htm

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4

From w1pa at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 29 14:38:11 2015
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill ACITO, W1PA)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:38:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
Message-ID: <BAY180-DS12D63D40C0CCB28155CF1198AA0@phx.gbl>

Ran the satellite station for W1BIM (6A central MA). 
Nothing fancy --  FT-847, tripod mounted arrow, no computer 
(full manual). Worked KA4H on the very first AO-7 pass (but 
out of habit used my call instead of the club call ---  
idiot), then worked Wyatt at W0GQ on the next FO-29 pass. 
Tried a few more times Saturday afternoon but no luck. 
Packed up the gear and moved to one of the HF stations.

We were on a high plateau football field with a single 
Winnebago and multiple tents/easy ups. Started raining 
around 7pm, turned to horizontal rain by 11pm, and then at 
3am the wind gusts toppled multiple station tents --  one of 
the easyups  was found 30ft up in a tree, with the aluminum 
structure.  Horizontal rain, and 30mph gusts the rest of 
Sunday morning -- a real Nor'easter.  No injuries, but we 
may have lost one rig and one laptop. I was sleeping in my 
car when it happened. Winnebago stations kept going; what 
was left of the tent stations were packed up by 6am.  Btw, 
these were all properly staked and secured...   in at least 
one case, the bottom flanges of the easyup post stakes were 
torn from the metal masts --- metal welds torn off.

Found during FD: the UHF internal pre-amp on my FT-847 had 
failed. Before I go through the schematics, anyone ever had 
one fail and can identify the MAR or FET device I am most 
likely going to have to replace?

Bill  W1PA 


From gs.higgins at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 29 15:15:07 2015
From: gs.higgins at sbcglobal.net (Greg Higgins)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:15:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Need help with SatPC32 - WinAOS
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAPDkJtbYT0xIrrmRk8a1Mw3CgAAAEAAAAIwoX54E54ZIjm/nLA4xRQsBAAAAAA==@sbcglobal.net>

I updated my SatPC32 from 12.8b to c during field day and everything ran
fine. Used WinAOS for pass predictions. This morning I tried to run WinAOS
and am suddenly getting an error message in German: Listenindex
uberschreitet das Maximum (-1). Does anyone have any ideas what the error is
and how to fix it? Thanks!!

Greg Higgins


From david at rushtone.com  Mon Jun 29 15:09:33 2015
From: david at rushtone.com (David Rush)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:09:33 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55915FAD.2070602@rushtone.com>

I ran W4CVY for our club's Field Day effort from west/central Georgia.

I've had mixed results in past years making at least one contact for the 
100 point bonus.  I've been slowly improving my gear every year.

This year I finally got circ-polarized crossed Yagis for 2m and 70cm (M2 
LEO pack purchased through the Amsat store), got fully automatic 
tracking working (K3NG/Arduino controller for Yaesu G-5500 rotor setup), 
and figured out more of Sat32PC.  Discovered in pre-FD testing that the 
power amp in my FT-736R was toast, but 1-2 watts it was putting out was 
fine with my 70cm power amp.  Ran the 2m side barefoot (no amp).

Made 3 contacts total, all SSB on FO-29.  SO-50 was just chaos.

Heard and tried both AO-73 and AO-7, but was never able to find myself 
and get my uplink calibrated in Sat32PC.  On AO-73 I went manual a 
couple of times, keying down my CW key and sweeping my transmit with the 
big knob.  I quickly found myself, but was never able to successfully 
translate the result over to Sat32PC CAT control uplink calibration and 
hear myself on SSB.

Things I know I can improve on: operating Sat32PC (powerful program, but 
not easy to learn to drive well) and need to check the accuracy of my 
rotor control (looks good at 0 azimuth, but looks about 10 degrees off 
at 180).

David, ky7dr

On 2015-06-28 20:00, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard
> quite a bit of struggling too!
>
> Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my
> apartment building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which
> wasn't easy with how overloaded the transponders were with strong
> signals.
>
> Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
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From bill.g.dillon at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 16:09:03 2015
From: bill.g.dillon at gmail.com (Bill Dillon)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:09:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd:  Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CADnLNZzXSF9MQEgFC40=V+f3iD0aTR3vtaX3YZinMQiHtyEOKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADnLNZzXSF9MQEgFC40=V+f3iD0aTR3vtaX3YZinMQiHtyEOKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADnLNZywpxyZktST2xkBu1qYnfzmbd-T8jkvPQwngvXP2n6PBQ@mail.gmail.com>

I made my first via-satellite contact attempt on two afternoon SO50
Saturday passes.  I suppose Field Day is probably the worst time to try for
a first contact. ;-)  I also had a bunch of people come out to watch me
(No!  Go away!  I hardly know what I'm doing!  I want to fail in peace,
without an audience!).  I do appreciate fellow BVARC hams who helped hold
the antenna, make a recording, and call out az and elevation, while I
shifted frequencies and tried to make a contact.

I was absolutely thrilled (and I think others were impressed) to start
picking up voices at a slant range of 1500 miles.  I couldn't bust the pile
up with my little HT, but I can't wait to try again (and again, and again)!

73,

--Bill, KG5FQX (operating as KK5W for Field Day)

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard
> quite a bit of struggling too!
>
> Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my
> apartment building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which
> wasn't easy with how overloaded the transponders were with strong
> signals.
>
> Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Mon Jun 29 17:05:55 2015
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:05:55 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUeFp57ZzFWeeqMdVy_1wdmZOW60tkHziSO=Ds6n5kfipQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I had originally planned to do Field Day from the mountains near Flagstaff,
in northern Arizona. Unfortunately, work got in the way of those plans, when
a phone system upgrade was scheduled for Field Day weekend. After the phone
system work was moved to this weekend, I had hoped to try working a pass or
two early on Saturday afternoon, before going into the office. Instead, I
brought some gear to the office on Saturday, and was able to work some
passes from balconies at my office. That was fun!

I brought my Elk antenna and two HTs with me - a Kenwood TH-D72A, and an Icom
ID-51A. The TH-D72A was my radio for any packet/APRS activity on the ISS and
NO-84. I tried that HT on SO-50, but intermod from a nearby hospital made
SO-50's 70cm downlink tough to hear. The ID-51A's receiver did a better job
at resisting the intermod, so I used it for SO-50. I worked 3 ISS passes, two
SO-50 passes, and one NO-84 pass on Saturday afternoon/evening from my
office.

The first ISS pass, a little before 2300 UTC, was only up to 7 degrees here.
I heard the ISS packets, but it didn't retransmit any of mine. The two later
ISS passes, around 0025 and 0200 UTC, were better passes. I was able to make
a QSO on each pass - W5BII in Louisiana on the 0025 UTC pass, and W6YX on
the later pass.

I heard NO-84 on its pass around 0135 UTC, and I got a couple of packets
through that satellite, but didn't log any QSOs. I didn't see my call show up
on the pcsat.aprs.org web site, but was able to see the retransmitted packets
when I looked on aprs.fi. I will try this satellite from home, to see if I do
better when I'm away from the intermod generator (hospital) near my office.

SO-50 was an interesting story... I worked two passes, around 0030 and 0215
UTC Saturday evening. The earlier pass came up from my south, went to the
east, and covered most of the continental USA. I didn't expect much from that
pass, but I was able to make a contact early in the pass with N5AT in
Arkansas, operated by Dave KG5CCI. The later pass, over the west coast,
seemed just as busy as the earlier eastern pass. I did not log any QSOs on
the later pass. If I had logged any other SO-50 QSOs besides N5AT, I would
have listed them in my Field Day submissions to ARRL and AMSAT, but not
scored them - something I have done for many years.

Since I was busier in the office on Sunday, I was not able to work any other
passes before Field Day wrapped up. Having the radios with me to break up the
quiet Saturday evening in the office was a very good thing. I was sending out
tweets during the evening, and have since posted my Field Day "soapbox"
report on the ARRL web site. It is at:

http://www.arrl.org/soapbox/view/9174

You can see other soapbox reports for Field Day and other ARRL contests at:

http://www.arrl.org/soapbox

You can also post your own reports on the ARRL web site.

In the next few days, I'll prepare my Field Day submissions for both ARRL and
AMSAT. I have already gone through the ARRL's web submissions page for Field
Day reports, and I'll get the proper AMSAT form off the web site. I wish I
had the whole weekend to do Field Day, but having some time for Field Day is
always better than no Field Day at all.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK


On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard
> quite a bit of struggling too!

From k9jkm at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 18:22:05 2015
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:22:05 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUeFp57ZzFWeeqMdVy_1wdmZOW60tkHziSO=Ds6n5kfipQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUeFp57ZzFWeeqMdVy_1wdmZOW60tkHziSO=Ds6n5kfipQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003401d0b298$80d1ca70$82755f50$@net>

Hey guys,

Thanks for posting your Field Day experiences. If you have a photo or two or
some please send them to either Bruce KK5DO (kk5do at arrl.net) or to me
(k9jkm at comcast.net). Bruce uses the photos in the Field Day results article
he writes for the AMSAT Journal.

Also, send your Field Day logs to Bruce so he can compile the results!

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org
AMSAT VP User Services




From w6gyc at w6gyc.com  Mon Jun 29 20:28:43 2015
From: w6gyc at w6gyc.com (Mike Jones, W6GYC)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:28:43 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Software
In-Reply-To: <5590A2F4.6090105@w6gyc.com>
References: <5590A2F4.6090105@w6gyc.com>
Message-ID: <5591AA7B.9020708@w6gyc.com>

Just a reminder as well.

This is not ONLY for satellite related software, but other utilities and 
programs you use in your satellite operations:
Rig and rotor control
packet
logging
rig programming
etc

I have been getting some good responses.  Keep 'em coming.

On 06/28/2015 06:44 PM, Mike Jones, W6GYC wrote:
> Hello. My name is Mike Jones, W6GYC.  I help out with content on the 
> AMSAT.ORG web site.
>
> The software pages currently on AMSAT.ORG are a bit out of date I it 
> has been decided to bring them a bit more current.
>
> What I would like to do is hear from the satellite community on what 
> software they are using for their Amateur Satellite operations. 
> Remember I would like to hear not just a list of software apps, but 
> what you actually use in your day-to-day operations.
>
> Please include the following:
>
> Title
> Website (if available)
> Type of software (commercial, shareware, freeware, etc)
> Cost if appropriate
> Platform (Windows, MAC, Linux, mobile (Android, iOS, other, multiple)
> What distribution you use if applicable
> Is the software included in your distribution repositories, or third 
> party download, build, etc
> Short description if possible
>
> Please feel free to include any additional information you may feel 
> important.
>
> I have created a special, personal email account for this, please do 
> not spam the mailing list.
>
> Please send to:  satsoft at w6gyc.com
>
> Thank you in advance
>
>

-- 


73
Mike Jones W6GYC - AMSAT Number: 38250
Home Grid: DM04rl
http://w6gyc.com



From kb2m at arrl.net  Mon Jun 29 20:43:38 2015
From: kb2m at arrl.net (kb2m at arrl.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 16:43:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <003d01d0b268$26585350$7308f9f0$@GMAIL.COM>
References: <CABzOSOq9_MN+nUrvGQHQF3zPbvGHT5auv7th2LhgdzXBb53Q7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<012801d0b258$62089460$2619bd20$@net>
	<003d01d0b268$26585350$7308f9f0$@GMAIL.COM>
Message-ID: <014401d0b2ac$4ae69990$e0b3ccb0$@net>

I also had fun listening to the pileups. I didn't try to work any of the
strong or established stations, I was going after the FD only sat stations
:-)

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan [mailto:wa4sca at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:36 AM
To: kb2m at arrl.net; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Field Day

Jeff,

FO-29 sounded like 20 m, with many excellent signals.  A few stations, such
as K4BFT, were grinding out the contacts like a machine!  The usual problem
was that people were not hearing replies.  And then there was the "numbers
station," fortunately high in the passband, who seemed to spend the entire
pass saying "one two three, one two three," with never a call.  I actually
called the "numbers station," but never got a reply.

And a good time was had by all.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
kb2m at arrl.net
<Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:43 AM
<To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day
<
<I worked two passes, one on FO-29, the other AO-73. I was trying to work
<stations that appeared to me, to be looking for their only contact. I made
2 <contacts. I just looked at my notes, I had over 15 calls written down,
<another words I heard them but they weren't hearing me. My guess is that
all <of them couldn't find or hear me on their downlink. The one regular sat
user <I did work was Paul, on the first call. A usual FD on the sats :-) <
<73 Jeff kb2m
<
<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
<Stoetzer
<Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:00 PM
<To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
<Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
<
<How did everyone's Field Day go? Heard quite a bit of QSOs made. Heard
quite <a bit of struggling too!
<
<Weather was awful, so I was just operating from the grounds of my apartment
<building here in DC. I managed 20 QSOs with 5 watts, which wasn't easy with
<how overloaded the transponders were with strong signals.
<
<Next year maybe I'll help out a local club on the sats.
<
<73,
<
<Paul, N8HM
<
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to
all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
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<Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl  Mon Jun 29 20:46:20 2015
From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:46:20 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Typical SO-50 exchanges
Message-ID: <20150629204620.GA29079@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>


I'm trying to improve on my number of successful satellite QSO's (at the
moment: 3) and because I'm quite good at forgetting a callsign in the heat
of the moment I am trying to build a working setup to record FM QSO's.

The setup with a splitter from my HT to the line-in of a mp3 device does
record something but it's still distorted. I will try on the FT-857 again
but that's a bit heavy for satellite contacts. It can give more output
power than the default 5W (.. if the specs are to be believed) of the HT
which may improve the chance of actually getting across.

I noticed (again) that there seems to be a fixed format in action for
exchanging callsign / signal report / locator. But I'm not sure of the
right order. Can someone explain this? I haven't seen this mentioned on
amsat-bb.

My latest recording where I heard this type of exchange twice is linked
from http://idefix.net/~koos/newsitem.cgi/1435521672

                                         Koos

-- 
Koos van den Hout,           PGP keyid DSS/1024 0xF0D7C263 via keyservers
koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl
                                           Weather maps from free sources at
http://idefix.net/                                http://weather.idefix.net/

From davhop at bigpond.net.au  Mon Jun 29 22:04:43 2015
From: davhop at bigpond.net.au (David Hopkins)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 08:04:43 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Kepler elements
In-Reply-To: <003f01d0b110$7b475590$71d600b0$@upcmail.nl>
References: <003f01d0b110$7b475590$71d600b0$@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <20150629220444.XZIZ26134.nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p>


>Gentlemen,

Do we have a Norad number for PSAT yet?

Thanks

David


David G. Hopkins (VK4ZF)
CAPALABA QLD
AUSTRALIA
27.32.38S 153.12.03E
QG62OL
Skype :- davhop 


From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Mon Jun 29 22:26:28 2015
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 00:26:28 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Kepler elements
In-Reply-To: <20150629220444.XZIZ26134.nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p>
References: <003f01d0b110$7b475590$71d600b0$@upcmail.nl>
	<20150629220444.XZIZ26134.nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p>
Message-ID: <003201d0b2ba$a4ab1100$ee013300$@de>

NORAD #40652 and #90720

PSAT
1 90720U          15180.31767061 +.00010177 +00000-0 +27202-3 0 00548
2 90720 054.9941 167.9793 0243351 280.1539 077.2041 15.14005789006018

73 Mike
DK3WN



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von David
Hopkins
Gesendet: 30 June 2015 00:05
An: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Betreff: [amsat-bb] PSAT Kepler elements


>Gentlemen,

Do we have a Norad number for PSAT yet?

Thanks

David


David G. Hopkins (VK4ZF)
CAPALABA QLD
AUSTRALIA
27.32.38S 153.12.03E
QG62OL
Skype :- davhop 

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From k.swaggart at charter.net  Mon Jun 29 22:17:41 2015
From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:17:41 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] QB50P2 weak beacon
In-Reply-To: <b56b693b06ba3416c83dcb4485296bd4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b56b693b06ba3416c83dcb4485296bd4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06BD7113A3C541DEA9E8A4852DB1763A@BlackPC>

Since 23 June 2015 the QB50P2 beacon has been extremely weak and I've 
decoded very few frames with Warbler.  Anyone know the reason?  QB50P1 
appears to be at normal signal strength.

73,
Ken, W7KKE 


From k7trkradio at charter.net  Mon Jun 29 22:56:57 2015
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:56:57 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Kepler elements
In-Reply-To: <003201d0b2ba$a4ab1100$ee013300$@de>
References: <003f01d0b110$7b475590$71d600b0$@upcmail.nl>	<20150629220444.XZIZ26134.nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p>
	<003201d0b2ba$a4ab1100$ee013300$@de>
Message-ID: <001201d0b2be$e6e3e610$b4abb230$@charter.net>

???  what are NO83 (bricsat) and NO84 PSAT???

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Rupprecht
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 3:26 PM
To: 'David Hopkins'; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Kepler elements

NORAD #40652 and #90720

PSAT
1 90720U          15180.31767061 +.00010177 +00000-0 +27202-3 0 00548
2 90720 054.9941 167.9793 0243351 280.1539 077.2041 15.14005789006018

73 Mike
DK3WN



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von David
Hopkins
Gesendet: 30 June 2015 00:05
An: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Betreff: [amsat-bb] PSAT Kepler elements


>Gentlemen,

Do we have a Norad number for PSAT yet?

Thanks

David


David G. Hopkins (VK4ZF)
CAPALABA QLD
AUSTRALIA
27.32.38S 153.12.03E
QG62OL
Skype :- davhop 

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From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Mon Jun 29 23:15:31 2015
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Kepler elements
In-Reply-To: <001201d0b2be$e6e3e610$b4abb230$@charter.net>
References: <003f01d0b110$7b475590$71d600b0$@upcmail.nl>
	<20150629220444.XZIZ26134.nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p>
	<003201d0b2ba$a4ab1100$ee013300$@de>
	<001201d0b2be$e6e3e610$b4abb230$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <5591D193.9030204@alum.wpi.edu>


>From Ray Hoad on the keps mailing list:

The NORAD ID # for NO-84 (PSAT) and NO-83 (BRICSat) is being changed to 
align with the Satellite Name and corresponding NORAD ID # as shown on the 
SpaceTrack website maintained by Joint Space Operations Center (JSpOC).  The 
various names, IDs, and correct TLE's for these cubesat satellites have 
finally settled down and AMSAT is making one last change to align with 
JSpOC. These changes will eliminate future confusion by matching the data 
from SpaceTrack.

The new ID designations are as follows:

PSAT (NO 84)    =  90720  =  ULTRASat 1   =  40654  =  2015-025D
BRICSat (NO 83) =  90729  =  ULTRASat 10  =  40655  =  2015-025E

Please adjust your tracking programs accordingly. 


From skristof at etczone.net  Tue Jun 30 00:43:15 2015
From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:43:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50
Message-ID: <C3084A31155C42EDA0E69ECCF6EE2D95@StevePC>

I still can't hear SO-50. I've checked out the receiving radio and it works just fine. Has anyone ever had a problem with the UHF portion of an Arrow antenna going bad? Loose connector?

Steve Kristoff AI9IN
skristof at etczone.com


From w8krf at w8krf.net  Tue Jun 30 00:52:12 2015
From: w8krf at w8krf.net (Carl Rimmer W8KRF)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:52:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps on Space Track
Message-ID: <0bd601d0b2cf$007b4f40$0171edc0$@w8krf.net>

I am on the Space Track website and cannot find any Keps for either PSAT or
BricSat.  Where are you guys getting the Keps?

 

I have used all these designations.  

 

PSAT (NO 84)    =  90720  =  ULTRASat 1   =  40654  =  2015-025D

BRICSat (NO 83) =  90729  =  ULTRASat 10  =  40655  =  2015-025E

 

I find them but the Keps are blank.

 

I've been using Space Track for all my Sat Keps and this is the first time I
have had problems.

 

73,

 

Carl W8KRF


From Ke4kol at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 30 00:53:50 2015
From: Ke4kol at bellsouth.net (J Bennett)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:53:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20150628220518.03ab7008@mail.bellsouth.net>
References: <008a01d0b202$66a51d00$33ef5700$@net>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20150628220518.03ab7008@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <009301d0b2cf$3c2d4ac0$b487e040$@net>

I took a direct hit.  It disintegrated my 2m/70cm vertical.  It was 20 foot
long.  Now it is in 5 pieces in various length and the neighbor's lawn has
many piece of the radome. The tower is grounded with three grounding rods
that are connected to the service entry point on the garage.  That saved 6
different radio from any damage. It took out a power supply that wasn't even
connected to the antenna that took the hit.  I have polyphaser lighting
protection on all antennas.  It has been up for 20 years and this is the
first major damage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Little
WB4UIV
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:10 PM
To: Jim Bennett; 'Amsat'
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.

Number one on the list is a good tower ground bonded to the single point
service entrance ground at the house.
MIL-HDBK-419 addresses this very well.
When this is followed, you will have very minimum problems, unless, you take
a direct strike.
This can be minimized with static dissipators.
When was the last time you saw a FAA communications tower that took a hit
with any damaged equipment??

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



At 08:27 PM 6/28/2015, Jim Bennett wrote:
>Hey guys.
>
>
>
>I just took a lighting strike the other day.  Wipe out the big stick in the
>air.  Also took out one preamp and possible a circular polarization switch
>on the sat antennas alone with both PCs that I had, a power supply, plus my
>network.  The pair of KLM appear ok.  So I am going to redo my tower
layout.
>New coax(probably hard line), new preamps, new cp switch and new control
>cable to the preamps and CP switches. Rotor cables appear good, but will
>check to make sure.
>
>
>
>I put this system together about 20 years ago.  So I am starting out fresh
>trying to find the stuff.  Is Lanwear amps still available?  If not, what
is
>the next best. Are there any shelf available CP switches.  The ones I have
>were on the antennas when purchased.  And they appear home built.
>
>
>
>Any suggestions are appreciate.
>
>
>
>Jim
>
>Ke4kol
>
>
>
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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Tue Jun 30 00:55:42 2015
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:55:42 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50
In-Reply-To: <C3084A31155C42EDA0E69ECCF6EE2D95@StevePC>
References: <C3084A31155C42EDA0E69ECCF6EE2D95@StevePC>
Message-ID: <001601d0b2cf$7d951100$78bf3300$@charter.net>

How about testing with your base radio, local repeater, another hand held,
scanner etc??  test coax and fittings for a short?

GL K7TRK  (not a lot that can go wrong with the mechanics of an Arrow)

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Kristoff
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:43 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50

I still can't hear SO-50. I've checked out the receiving radio and it works
just fine. Has anyone ever had a problem with the UHF portion of an Arrow
antenna going bad? Loose connector?

Steve Kristoff AI9IN
skristof at etczone.com

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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue Jun 30 00:56:58 2015
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 00:56:58 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50
In-Reply-To: <C3084A31155C42EDA0E69ECCF6EE2D95@StevePC>
References: <C3084A31155C42EDA0E69ECCF6EE2D95@StevePC>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfkQo3R-hfBanWhePo_X1oQgdKpMoh60_nnesvWm88H3w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Steve!

Could you describe your antenna setup? Are you using the Arrow
Antennas 10W diplexer with your antenna? Have you tried running
coax directly from the 70cm feedpoint on the antenna to your radio,
and just try listening to SO-50? Have you put another diplexer
between your radio and the 70cm feedpoint? What type and length
of coax are you using?

Paul N8HM had previously asked if you could explain your setup a
little better. I didn't see a response to that post. If you are using the
Arrow Antennas diplexer, it is possible that something has gone
wrong with it. That happened to me with my Arrow Yagi several years
ago, where I ended up replacing the small diplexer with another one
(I think it was a Diamond diplexer, but others from Comet, Yaesu,
MFJ, and other brands could also be used). The Arrow diplexer is
not very sturdy, and some unintentional rough handling could cause
what you are describing - if you're using that with your antenna.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK




On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Steve Kristoff <skristof at etczone.net> wrote:
> I still can't hear SO-50. I've checked out the receiving radio and it works just fine. Has anyone ever had a problem with the UHF portion of an Arrow antenna going bad? Loose connector?

From glennmaillist at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 30 01:13:07 2015
From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:13:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.
In-Reply-To: <009301d0b2cf$3c2d4ac0$b487e040$@net>
References: <008a01d0b202$66a51d00$33ef5700$@net>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20150628220518.03ab7008@mail.bellsouth.net>
	<009301d0b2cf$3c2d4ac0$b487e040$@net>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20150629210530.036976b8@mail.bellsouth.net>

Sounds like you have done your homework.
I wish more would do the same.
I did lightning damage mitigation in a previous job.
I had some professionals tell me I did not know what I was doing.
After the third direct hit to a commercial tower and the replacement 
of all strobes the tower took no more damage causing hits.
Sometime later my boss directed me to return to the site and report 
on my findings.
All of the recommendation, that I was told by the professionals that 
I did not know what I was talking about, were implemented.
These included an aero spike, additional grounding and bonding of 
grounds to existing tower and structure.

If you were to add static dissipators to your tower, you might be 
able to dissipate the energy before it reached strike potential.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



At 08:53 PM 6/29/2015, J Bennett wrote:
>I took a direct hit.  It disintegrated my 2m/70cm vertical.  It was 20 foot
>long.  Now it is in 5 pieces in various length and the neighbor's lawn has
>many piece of the radome. The tower is grounded with three grounding rods
>that are connected to the service entry point on the garage.  That saved 6
>different radio from any damage. It took out a power supply that wasn't even
>connected to the antenna that took the hit.  I have polyphaser lighting
>protection on all antennas.  It has been up for 20 years and this is the
>first major damage.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Little
>WB4UIV
>Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:10 PM
>To: Jim Bennett; 'Amsat'
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.
>
>Number one on the list is a good tower ground bonded to the single point
>service entrance ground at the house.
>MIL-HDBK-419 addresses this very well.
>When this is followed, you will have very minimum problems, unless, you take
>a direct strike.
>This can be minimized with static dissipators.
>When was the last time you saw a FAA communications tower that took a hit
>with any damaged equipment??
>
>73
>Glenn
>WB4UIV
>
>
>
>At 08:27 PM 6/28/2015, Jim Bennett wrote:
> >Hey guys.
> >
> >
> >
> >I just took a lighting strike the other day.  Wipe out the big stick in the
> >air.  Also took out one preamp and possible a circular polarization switch
> >on the sat antennas alone with both PCs that I had, a power supply, plus my
> >network.  The pair of KLM appear ok.  So I am going to redo my tower
>layout.
> >New coax(probably hard line), new preamps, new cp switch and new control
> >cable to the preamps and CP switches. Rotor cables appear good, but will
> >check to make sure.
> >
> >
> >
> >I put this system together about 20 years ago.  So I am starting out fresh
> >trying to find the stuff.  Is Lanwear amps still available?  If not, what
>is
> >the next best. Are there any shelf available CP switches.  The ones I have
> >were on the antennas when purchased.  And they appear home built.
> >
> >
> >
> >Any suggestions are appreciate.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >Ke4kol
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> >views of AMSAT-NA.
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>QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)                      SBE ARRL  TAPR
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From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Tue Jun 30 01:39:30 2015
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:39:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps on Space Track
In-Reply-To: <0bd601d0b2cf$007b4f40$0171edc0$@w8krf.net>
References: <0bd601d0b2cf$007b4f40$0171edc0$@w8krf.net>
Message-ID: <5591F352.7050607@alum.wpi.edu>


> I am on the Space Track website and cannot find any Keps for either PSAT or
> BricSat.  Where are you guys getting the Keps?
>
>


http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt


From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com  Tue Jun 30 03:25:38 2015
From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:25:38 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20150629210530.036976b8@mail.bellsouth.net>
References: <008a01d0b202$66a51d00$33ef5700$@net>	<6.2.3.4.2.20150628220518.03ab7008@mail.bellsouth.net>	<009301d0b2cf$3c2d4ac0$b487e040$@net>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20150629210530.036976b8@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <003701d0b2e4$702142e0$5063c8a0$@mypbmail.com>

When you make your connection to your driven ground at the base of your
tower, make all your ground wires are as straight and as short as possible.
Lightning considers any 90 degree bends in the grounding wire (made to make
the installation look neat) as a high impedance in the path to ground.
Lightning may find a another way with less impedance that you do not want it
to follow.  In my 37 years with a utility company, I have found that the
straighter and shorter the ground wire the better. I have seen a lot of very
expensive equipment thrown into the trash can because of ground wires with
lots of bends or because they were unnecessarily long.

Ray Hoad
WA5QGD

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Little
WB4UIV
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:13 PM
To: J Bennett; 'Jim Bennett'; 'Amsat'
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.

Sounds like you have done your homework.
I wish more would do the same.
I did lightning damage mitigation in a previous job.
I had some professionals tell me I did not know what I was doing.
After the third direct hit to a commercial tower and the replacement 
of all strobes the tower took no more damage causing hits.
Sometime later my boss directed me to return to the site and report 
on my findings.
All of the recommendation, that I was told by the professionals that 
I did not know what I was talking about, were implemented.
These included an aero spike, additional grounding and bonding of 
grounds to existing tower and structure.

If you were to add static dissipators to your tower, you might be 
able to dissipate the energy before it reached strike potential.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



At 08:53 PM 6/29/2015, J Bennett wrote:
>I took a direct hit.  It disintegrated my 2m/70cm vertical.  It was 20 foot
>long.  Now it is in 5 pieces in various length and the neighbor's lawn has
>many piece of the radome. The tower is grounded with three grounding rods
>that are connected to the service entry point on the garage.  That saved 6
>different radio from any damage. It took out a power supply that wasn't
even
>connected to the antenna that took the hit.  I have polyphaser lighting
>protection on all antennas.  It has been up for 20 years and this is the
>first major damage.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Glenn
Little
>WB4UIV
>Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:10 PM
>To: Jim Bennett; 'Amsat'
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Circular Polarization Switch.
>
>Number one on the list is a good tower ground bonded to the single point
>service entrance ground at the house.
>MIL-HDBK-419 addresses this very well.
>When this is followed, you will have very minimum problems, unless, you
take
>a direct strike.
>This can be minimized with static dissipators.
>When was the last time you saw a FAA communications tower that took a hit
>with any damaged equipment??
>
>73
>Glenn
>WB4UIV
>
>
>
>At 08:27 PM 6/28/2015, Jim Bennett wrote:
> >Hey guys.
> >
> >
> >
> >I just took a lighting strike the other day.  Wipe out the big stick in
the
> >air.  Also took out one preamp and possible a circular polarization
switch
> >on the sat antennas alone with both PCs that I had, a power supply, plus
my
> >network.  The pair of KLM appear ok.  So I am going to redo my tower
>layout.
> >New coax(probably hard line), new preamps, new cp switch and new control
> >cable to the preamps and CP switches. Rotor cables appear good, but will
> >check to make sure.
> >
> >
> >
> >I put this system together about 20 years ago.  So I am starting out
fresh
> >trying to find the stuff.  Is Lanwear amps still available?  If not, what
>is
> >the next best. Are there any shelf available CP switches.  The ones I
have
> >were on the antennas when purchased.  And they appear home built.
> >
> >
> >
> >Any suggestions are appreciate.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >Ke4kol
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> >views of AMSAT-NA.
> >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Amateur Callsign:  WB4UIV            wb4uiv at arrl.net    AMSAT LM 2178
>QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)                      SBE ARRL  TAPR
>"It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
>of the Amateur that holds the license"
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From mccardelm at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 13:30:11 2015
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (EMike McCardel)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:30:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-06-30 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <924D41B3-9460-4723-915A-1FC4D5BE4A40@gmail.com>

From the SAREX Listserv
Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-06-30  07:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Tulsa Community College, NE Campus, Tulsa, OK, direct via  WD5AGO
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS/RS?ISS or  
RS?ISS/OR4ISS 
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
Contact is a go for: Wed  2015-07-01 15:59:17 UTC 20 deg  (***)

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From  2015-06-11 to 2015-07-24, there will be no US Operational Segment 
(USOS)
hams  on board ISS.  So any school contacts during this period will be 
conducted  by the ARISS Russia  team.

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From  2015-12-20 to 2016-01-04, there will be no US Operational Segment 
(USOS)
hams  on board ISS.  So any schools contacts during this period will be 
conducted  by the ARISS Russia  team.

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ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.   
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to  send
your reports to aj9n at amsat.org oraj9n at aol.com.   

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Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

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Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       


http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
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ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 

schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Francesco IK?WGF with  114
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  107

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The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2015-06-30 07:00 UTC.  
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 975.
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 940.
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46.

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

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The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: 
Arkansas,  Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, 
Wyoming,  American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin  
Islands.

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QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

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The  successful school list has been updated as of 2015-06-28 06:00  UTC.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30   UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp.  43/44 on orbit
Gennady Padalka RN3DT
Scott Kelly
Mikhail Korniyenko  RN3BF
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73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors  

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From tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 17:55:59 2015
From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com (Thomas Doyle)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:55:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Bulletin Article KI4SBL
Message-ID: <CAHnRQRKO1HCxLGLGco4QY4z0QYd=H25jZJixj+3O3HSAyv=E-w@mail.gmail.com>

The latest AMSAT Bulletin Vol. 38 No. 3 was great.
Quite a number of interesting articles. I found the CNCTRK article by
KI4SBL particularly interesting. The modular, metal construction seems like
a really good idea. Bob is very good on returning emails so let him know if
you have any questions about his interesting system.

In addition to CNCTRK there are a number of other portable rotors that have
been around for a while (satnnogs,  WRAPS and
http://www.mobypicture.com/user/MeltdownCore/view/18165109 to name a few).
Has anyone built and used any of these relatively new lightweight portable
rotors. If you have any first hand experience with one or know of any
others please let me know direct and/or on the board.

tnx & 73 W9KE Tom Doyle