[amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

[Stefan Wagener]

"


* I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of
why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. After using both, my conclusions are
that they are not even in the same class."*
Hi Michael,

You are correct and your are also wrong, with due respect. "*They are not
even in the same class*"
*Yes, and SatPC32 delivers where HRD is a failure!* If you truly believe
that HRD is "*one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham
could ever need*" you might want to check the forums and the constant need
for fixes. Having a shiny user interface does nothing if things don't work.
SatPC32 works, it doesn't need fixes, it gets regular updates, that's what
is important. My request to Erich (the author) for an additional function
gets a positive response within days!!!!!
SatPC32 is simple (you call it clunky) and the functionality is right on.
It does what it promises and even better. It is fully supported, free
upgrades, supports AMSAT and yes, it is a satellite tracking radio and
rotor control program that simply works! That's all. HRD gives you a shiny
GUI and fails horrible on the satellite function, just to mention one
failure....

Rest my case,

73 Stefan, VE4NSA

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Paul,
> I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of
> why I want to use HRD over SatPC32.
> After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same
> class.
>
> HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham
> could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode
> module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook
> contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built
> in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully
> configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite.
>
> SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat
> window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey
> DOS look and feel.
>
> Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying
> to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems
> administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD
> over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished.
> If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds,
> then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many users that they
> only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand
> for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?
>
> I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better
> operator.
>
> Michael Vivona
> KC4ZVA
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate
> antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent
> satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.
>
> May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100
> is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams
> use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled
> satellite station - with SatPC32.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
> <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It
> may work for you.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to
> work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single
> active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step
> forward and speak up.
> >
> > Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause.
> On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and
> has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
> >
> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Andrew,
> >> OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
> FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I
> hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler
> offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
> >>
> >> Michael Vivona
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
> glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning
> does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case
> I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for
> SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
> >>
> >> 73, Drew KO4MA
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what
> the issue is? Just sayin'.
> >>>
> >>> Michael Vivona
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried
> >>> it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
> >>>
> >>> SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear
> transponders.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Paul, N8HM
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)
> >>> <michael.vivona at wftv.com> wrote:
> >>>> I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and
> linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
> satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
> Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
> version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
> contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
> it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
> >>>> I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my
> laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the
> actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
> >>>> I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in
> advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael Vivona
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
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