From n8hm at arrl.net Fri May 1 00:14:03 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 20:14:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Message-ID: Would it be that difficult to stand by and let QSOs be completed before calling over those attempting to complete two-way exchanges? 73, Paul, N8HM From clintbradford at mac.com Fri May 1 00:44:59 2015 From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 17:44:59 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Message-ID: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not hear the downlink? Or a combination of the two? Clint K6LCS From n8hm at arrl.net Fri May 1 00:49:22 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 20:49:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 In-Reply-To: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> References: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> Message-ID: No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of it did get through, in pieces. Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete! There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get in the log. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford wrote: > Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not hear the downlink? > > Or a combination of the two? > > Clint K6LCS > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc at fidmail.com Fri May 1 02:58:54 2015 From: af5cc at fidmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 21:58:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 In-Reply-To: References: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> Message-ID: Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens there, why would the satellites be any different? 73 John AF5CC On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a > rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete > before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted > to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of > it did get through, in pieces. > > Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete! > > There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get > in the log. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford > wrote: > > Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not > hear the downlink? > > > > Or a combination of the two? > > > > Clint K6LCS > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kq6ea at verizon.net Fri May 1 03:24:39 2015 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 03:24:39 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5542F1F7.10101@verizon.net> Welcome to the crazy world of FM satellites..... 73, Jim On 05/01/2015 12:14 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Would it be that difficult to stand by and let QSOs be completed > before calling over those attempting to complete two-way exchanges? > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kq6ea at verizon.net Fri May 1 03:27:11 2015 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 03:27:11 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 In-Reply-To: References: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> Message-ID: <5542F28F.4060306@verizon.net> The FM birds are *far* worse than any HF pile-up I've ever heard, and I've been a Ham since 1964...... On 05/01/2015 02:58 AM, John Geiger wrote: > Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens > there, why would the satellites be any different? > > 73 John AF5CC > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a >> rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete >> before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted >> to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of >> it did get through, in pieces. >> >> Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete! >> >> There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get >> in the log. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford >> wrote: >>> Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not >> hear the downlink? >>> Or a combination of the two? >>> >>> Clint K6LCS >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From amsat at n0jy.org Fri May 1 03:28:15 2015 From: amsat at n0jy.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 22:28:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 In-Reply-To: References: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> Message-ID: <5542F2CF.1090809@n0jy.org> Maybe we should have considered making Fox-1 dual frequency, so the DX could work split and you would hear the full exchange from his end? :-) Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 4/30/2015 21:58, John Geiger wrote: > Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens > there, why would the satellites be any different? > > 73 John AF5CC > > From richard.siff at verizon.net Fri May 1 02:37:35 2015 From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 22:37:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Friday morning SO 50 Message-ID: <1ECC8A121A404989A1A7FFAB4664E87A@RichardPC> Great Bridge HS Electronics class will be on SO 50 during class time. I hope they do not witness what must have happened today! These gets will be taking their Tech tests on May 12th. K4AMG Club From n8hm at arrl.net Fri May 1 03:40:23 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 23:40:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 In-Reply-To: <5542F2CF.1090809@n0jy.org> References: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> <5542F2CF.1090809@n0jy.org> Message-ID: Next one! Though that wasn't the issue here. No one was stepping on him, just those trying to respond. I really didn't mean to start the FM satellite debate here as there are obviously pros and cons and it's good to have both FM and linear transponders available for voice communications. I believe that 80% of the problems on SO-50 are caused by people who cannot hear (and Fox should do a great job reducing that problem). This pass tonight brought out some of that other 20% and I just felt like venting :) 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > Maybe we should have considered making Fox-1 dual frequency, so the DX > could work split and you would hear the full exchange from his end? :-) > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 4/30/2015 21:58, John Geiger wrote: >> Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens >> there, why would the satellites be any different? >> >> 73 John AF5CC >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From samy_b1 at shell4you.net Fri May 1 03:38:38 2015 From: samy_b1 at shell4you.net (samy_b1 at shell4you.net) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 22:38:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 In-Reply-To: <5542F28F.4060306@verizon.net> References: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> <5542F28F.4060306@verizon.net> Message-ID: <2c398131089ab7b1a20322b8eef98320@shell4you.net> I like it that way . Its like contesting . Takes practice and skill to be able to retain call signs and be able to run with the pile up . That actually lost of fun . Its almost like been on the other side of DXpedition . Yanko, NX9G On 2015-04-30 22:27, Jim Jerzycke wrote: > The FM birds are *far* worse than any HF pile-up I've ever heard, and > I've been a Ham since 1964...... > > On 05/01/2015 02:58 AM, John Geiger wrote: > Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens there, why would the satellites be any different? 73 John AF5CC On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of it did get through, in pieces. Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete! There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get in the log. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford wrote: Are these chit-chatters taking up time? 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1] Links: ------ [1] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri May 1 03:49:11 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 23:49:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? Message-ID: Since a lot of people are talking about SO-50 right now, let me ask a question: I did try to work SO-50 once when all I had ever worked before was SO-35, UO-14 and AO-27 and I was horrified by how hard it was to hear and track. I found a thread on qrz.com where they said it's very helpful to use a preamp for SO-50 since it's so low power, even with the short runs of coax required for an Arrow II satellite antenna. I know almost nothing about preamps. What's the deal? Do they need power to work (active/passive?). What do you recommend? John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 From n8hm at arrl.net Fri May 1 04:00:12 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 00:00:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use a High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamp powered by a 11.1v LiPo battery pack (AAs or AAAs work fine too). I can work SO-50 down to the horizon with the Arrow Antenna if I have a clear shot. I lost at about a degree on the pass earlier. It's usually S1-2 below a couple of degrees, S7 above 10 degrees, and my FT-817 shows S+ above 30 degrees or so. You have to be careful not to transmit into a receive only preamp like this. I use two FT-817s, one for receive and one for transmit, so this is not a problem for me, but if you use a single radio, you would need to be sure that the preamp is between the 70cm antenna connection and the diplexer so you don't fry it. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:49 PM, John Brier wrote: > Since a lot of people are talking about SO-50 right now, let me ask a question: > > I did try to work SO-50 once when all I had ever worked before was > SO-35, UO-14 and AO-27 and I was horrified by how hard it was to hear > and track. > > I found a thread on qrz.com where they said it's very helpful to use a > preamp for SO-50 since it's so low power, even with the short runs of > coax required for an Arrow II satellite antenna. I know almost nothing > about preamps. What's the deal? Do they need power to work > (active/passive?). What do you recommend? > > John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri May 1 04:09:17 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 00:09:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, I found that at their website: http://www.hsmicrowave.com/Amateur%20LNA.html I'm going to use two radios so that won't be an issue. Man, so they do require power, or at least this one does. I'm already starting to get tired of trying to track the satellites with the Arrow II. Adding a preamp with a battery pack and a second radio (I've mostly just been listening to the ISS lately) is going to get even more cumbersome, plus you have to operate two radios while compensating for doppler, right? How do you operate portably with your FT-817s? Do you attach one to each hip?! I'm starting to think about circularly polarized antennas I can just set and forget, but with a low power satellite like SO-50 that might not work so well. Hmm. On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > I use a High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamp powered by a 11.1v LiPo > battery pack (AAs or AAAs work fine too). I can work SO-50 down to the > horizon with the Arrow Antenna if I have a clear shot. I lost at about > a degree on the pass earlier. It's usually S1-2 below a couple of > degrees, S7 above 10 degrees, and my FT-817 shows S+ above 30 degrees > or so. > > You have to be careful not to transmit into a receive only preamp like > this. I use two FT-817s, one for receive and one for transmit, so this > is not a problem for me, but if you use a single radio, you would need > to be sure that the preamp is between the 70cm antenna connection and > the diplexer so you don't fry it. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:49 PM, John Brier wrote: >> Since a lot of people are talking about SO-50 right now, let me ask a question: >> >> I did try to work SO-50 once when all I had ever worked before was >> SO-35, UO-14 and AO-27 and I was horrified by how hard it was to hear >> and track. >> >> I found a thread on qrz.com where they said it's very helpful to use a >> preamp for SO-50 since it's so low power, even with the short runs of >> coax required for an Arrow II satellite antenna. I know almost nothing >> about preamps. What's the deal? Do they need power to work >> (active/passive?). What do you recommend? >> >> John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dominic at del.co.uk Fri May 1 11:23:32 2015 From: dominic at del.co.uk (Dominic Hawken) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 12:23:32 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D7B0C04-2BCD-4B33-A7C2-8E74FAB92C7C@del.co.uk> The inaugural edition of Radcom Plus came out today, and the first article is on building a 2m masthead preamp - the DG8. I don't think it's particularly appropriate for handheld use, but looks interesting in that it uses (cheaper) mains relays - whilst I've only had a brief scan the article looks really well written and detailed. I've been looking for a cheaper masthead option for 2m to build and so far the relays have always been the significant cost. Power to this one is also over the coax, so it suits me well. Radcom Plus is available online for RSGB members - http://rsgb.org/main/blog/front-page-news/2015/04/30/radcom-plus-vol-1-1/ No - I don't work for the RSGB - just genuinely impressed! Best, Dominic G6NQO > On 1 May 2015, at 05:09, John Brier wrote: > > Thanks, I found that at their website: > > http://www.hsmicrowave.com/Amateur%20LNA.html > > I'm going to use two radios so that won't be an issue. > > Man, so they do require power, or at least this one does. > > I'm already starting to get tired of trying to track the satellites > with the Arrow II. Adding a preamp with a battery pack and a second > radio (I've mostly just been listening to the ISS lately) is going to > get even more cumbersome, plus you have to operate two radios while > compensating for doppler, right? How do you operate portably with your > FT-817s? Do you attach one to each hip?! I'm starting to think about > circularly polarized antennas I can just set and forget, but with a > low power satellite like SO-50 that might not work so well. Hmm. > > > >> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> I use a High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamp powered by a 11.1v LiPo >> battery pack (AAs or AAAs work fine too). I can work SO-50 down to the >> horizon with the Arrow Antenna if I have a clear shot. I lost at about >> a degree on the pass earlier. It's usually S1-2 below a couple of >> degrees, S7 above 10 degrees, and my FT-817 shows S+ above 30 degrees >> or so. >> >> You have to be careful not to transmit into a receive only preamp like >> this. I use two FT-817s, one for receive and one for transmit, so this >> is not a problem for me, but if you use a single radio, you would need >> to be sure that the preamp is between the 70cm antenna connection and >> the diplexer so you don't fry it. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:49 PM, John Brier wrote: >>> Since a lot of people are talking about SO-50 right now, let me ask a question: >>> >>> I did try to work SO-50 once when all I had ever worked before was >>> SO-35, UO-14 and AO-27 and I was horrified by how hard it was to hear >>> and track. >>> >>> I found a thread on qrz.com where they said it's very helpful to use a >>> preamp for SO-50 since it's so low power, even with the short runs of >>> coax required for an Arrow II satellite antenna. I know almost nothing >>> about preamps. What's the deal? Do they need power to work >>> (active/passive?). What do you recommend? >>> >>> John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g0mrf at aol.com Fri May 1 14:14:17 2015 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 10:14:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? In-Reply-To: <7D7B0C04-2BCD-4B33-A7C2-8E74FAB92C7C@del.co.uk> Message-ID: <14d0fd3f206-42fd-d517@webprd-m44.mail.aol.com> Hi Dominic I can recommend that device in the preamp. It's the same one that's used in the AMSAT-UK FUNcube dongle preamp. - But very nice to have the TX/RX switching as well Thanks for the link David G0MRF -----Original Message----- From: Dominic Hawken To: AMSAT BB Sent: Fri, 1 May 2015 12:23 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? The inaugural edition of Radcom Plus came out today, and the first article is on building a 2m masthead preamp - the DG8. I don't think it's particularly appropriate for handheld use, but looks interesting in that it uses (cheaper) mains relays - whilst I've only had a brief scan the article looks really well written and detailed. I've been looking for a cheaper masthead option for 2m to build and so far the relays have always been the significant cost. Power to this one is also over the coax, so it suits me well. Radcom Plus is available online for RSGB members - http://rsgb.org/main/blog/front-page-news/2015/04/30/radcom-plus-vol-1-1/ No - I don't work for the RSGB - just genuinely impressed! Best, Dominic G6NQO > On 1 May 2015, at 05:09, John Brier wrote: > > Thanks, I found that at their website: > > http://www.hsmicrowave.com/Amateur%20LNA.html > > I'm going to use two radios so that won't be an issue. > > Man, so they do require power, or at least this one does. > > I'm already starting to get tired of trying to track the satellites > with the Arrow II. Adding a preamp with a battery pack and a second > radio (I've mostly just been listening to the ISS lately) is going to > get even more cumbersome, plus you have to operate two radios while > compensating for doppler, right? How do you operate portably with your > FT-817s? Do you attach one to each hip?! I'm starting to think about > circularly polarized antennas I can just set and forget, but with a > low power satellite like SO-50 that might not work so well. Hmm. > > > >> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> I use a High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamp powered by a 11.1v LiPo >> battery pack (AAs or AAAs work fine too). I can work SO-50 down to the >> horizon with the Arrow Antenna if I have a clear shot. I lost at about >> a degree on the pass earlier. It's usually S1-2 below a couple of >> degrees, S7 above 10 degrees, and my FT-817 shows S+ above 30 degrees >> or so. >> >> You have to be careful not to transmit into a receive only preamp like >> this. I use two FT-817s, one for receive and one for transmit, so this >> is not a problem for me, but if you use a single radio, you would need >> to be sure that the preamp is between the 70cm antenna connection and >> the diplexer so you don't fry it. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:49 PM, John Brier wrote: >>> Since a lot of people are talking about SO-50 right now, let me ask a question: >>> >>> I did try to work SO-50 once when all I had ever worked before was >>> SO-35, UO-14 and AO-27 and I was horrified by how hard it was to hear >>> and track. >>> >>> I found a thread on qrz.com where they said it's very helpful to use a >>> preamp for SO-50 since it's so low power, even with the short runs of >>> coax required for an Arrow II satellite antenna. I know almost nothing >>> about preamps. What's the deal? Do they need power to work >>> (active/passive?). What do you recommend? >>> >>> John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Fri May 1 15:14:07 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 11:14:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 In-Reply-To: <2c398131089ab7b1a20322b8eef98320@shell4you.net> References: <3CC0C2E2-295A-4A70-9C86-D9530909E3A7@mac.com> <5542F28F.4060306@verizon.net> <2c398131089ab7b1a20322b8eef98320@shell4you.net> Message-ID: I have kind of given up on the evening SO-50 passes while Yuri is sailing the ocean blue. Nothing at all against Yuri or those working him for the rare grid square. That's what all this stuff is for. Just that I'm not going to QSO with anybody during those passes given my mini-station and (mostly) my inexperience. I'll be on during the day on weekends and listening at other times for a break in the action. Steve AI9IN On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:38 PM, wrote: > > > I like it that way . Its like contesting . Takes practice and skill to > be able to retain call signs and be able to run with the pile up . That > actually lost of fun . Its almost like been on the other side of > DXpedition . > > Yanko, NX9G > > On 2015-04-30 22:27, Jim Jerzycke wrote: > > > The FM birds are *far* worse than any HF pile-up I've ever heard, and > > I've been a Ham since 1964...... > > > > On 05/01/2015 02:58 AM, John Geiger wrote: > > Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens > there, why would the satellites be any different? 73 John AF5CC On Thu, Apr > 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: No. These > people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a rare grid. > Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete before calling. I > was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted to give my report, I was > crushed by another station calling. Most of it did get through, in pieces. > Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete! > There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get in > the log. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford < > clintbradford at mac.com> wrote: Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or > possibly someone who does not hear the downlink? Or a combination of the > two? Clint K6LCS _______________________________________________ Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes th > is open > forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not > reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to > support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1] > _______________________________________________ Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k4gkj at embarqmail.com Fri May 1 15:52:15 2015 From: k4gkj at embarqmail.com (Doug - k4GKJ) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 11:52:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS contact May 2nd Message-ID: I hear a rumor of a contact May 2nd, 14:30 UTC....... ?Africa & Italy with? ?Samantha......? Don't know if it's telebridge or direct..... ?Check your prediction software to see if your in the footprint at that time...? Doug K4GKJ? Doug Bennight K4GKJ 528-5772 From k8bl at ameritech.net Fri May 1 16:33:09 2015 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 16:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1034948584.498614.1430497989322.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> John, No doubt a pre-amp would help immensely. However, I don't useone when portable since my feedline is less than 10 feet long. Themore important thing is to be able to change your polarity to matchthat of the Satellite. Mismatched polarity can degrade the signal bymore than 20 dB. I seldom have trouble hearing SO-50 as long asI keep up with the tumbling of the bird. 73/GL, ? ? Bob K8BL From: John Brier To: AMSAT BB Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:49 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? Since a lot of people are talking about SO-50 right now, let me ask a question: I did try to work SO-50 once when all I had ever worked before was SO-35, UO-14 and AO-27 and I was horrified by how hard it was to hear and track. I found a thread on qrz.com where they said it's very helpful to use a preamp for SO-50 since it's so low power, even with the short runs of coax required for an Arrow II satellite antenna. I know almost nothing about preamps. What's the deal? Do they need power to work (active/passive?). What do you recommend? John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Fri May 1 16:42:42 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 12:42:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? In-Reply-To: <1034948584.498614.1430497989322.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1034948584.498614.1430497989322.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm a complete rookie at this, so take it for what it's worth, but I must agree with Bob K8BL. I use an Arrow antenna and the reception is usually 59+ if you have the antenna pointed AND tilted (for polarity) in the right direction. On low angles, reception can go from 59 to null just by rotating the antenna 90 degrees. Steve AI9IN On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:33 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > John, > No doubt a pre-amp would help immensely. However, I don't useone when > portable since my feedline is less than 10 feet long. Themore important > thing is to be able to change your polarity to matchthat of the Satellite. > Mismatched polarity can degrade the signal bymore than 20 dB. I seldom have > trouble hearing SO-50 as long asI keep up with the tumbling of the bird. > 73/GL, Bob K8BL > From: John Brier > To: AMSAT BB > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:49 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? > > Since a lot of people are talking about SO-50 right now, let me ask a > question: > > I did try to work SO-50 once when all I had ever worked before was > SO-35, UO-14 and AO-27 and I was horrified by how hard it was to hear > and track. > > I found a thread on qrz.com where they said it's very helpful to use a > preamp for SO-50 since it's so low power, even with the short runs of > coax required for an Arrow II satellite antenna. I know almost nothing > about preamps. What's the deal? Do they need power to work > (active/passive?). What do you recommend? > > John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tom.campie at gmail.com Fri May 1 17:43:03 2015 From: tom.campie at gmail.com (TJ Campie) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 12:43:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: Elk antenna Message-ID: Interested in purchasing an Elk dualband LPDA, please contact off list if you have something! 73, W0EA TJ ---- QRP ARCI #14612 | CW Ops #953 | SKCC #4593T NAQCC #3768 | Flying Pigs QRP #2254 http://W0EA.us *Because QRO is too easy (but sometimes required!)* From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Fri May 1 17:50:51 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 13:50:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: Elk antenna In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you are going to Dayton, they will be available at the AMSAT booth. Get it early because we normally sell out. 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2015, at 1:43 PM, TJ Campie wrote: > > Interested in purchasing an Elk dualband LPDA, please contact off list if > you have something! > > > 73, W0EA > TJ > ---- > QRP ARCI #14612 | CW Ops #953 | SKCC #4593T > NAQCC #3768 | Flying Pigs QRP #2254 > http://W0EA.us > *Because QRO is too easy (but sometimes required!)* > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hans at intekom.co.za Fri May 1 17:21:21 2015 From: hans at intekom.co.za (Hans) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 19:21:21 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS contact May 2nd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00d801d08433$40518ff0$c0f4afd0$@intekom.co.za> Hi I am facilitating the South African end. It is via telebridge Hans -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Doug - k4GKJ Sent: 01 May 2015 05:52 PM To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS contact May 2nd I hear a rumor of a contact May 2nd, 14:30 UTC....... Africa & Italy with Samantha...... Don't know if it's telebridge or direct..... Check your prediction software to see if your in the footprint at that time... Doug K4GKJ Doug Bennight K4GKJ 528-5772 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Fri May 1 19:34:29 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 14:34:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS contact May 2nd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005f01d08445$d757a6c0$8606f440$@net> > I hear a rumor of a contact May 2nd, 14:30 UTC....... > Africa & Italy with Samantha The Southgate site did a nice job relaying the ARISS press release: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2015/may/ariss_event_0205.htm AMSAT relays the ARISS news on our SAREX list: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services From AJ9N at aol.com Fri May 1 19:40:31 2015 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 15:40:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS contact May 2nd Message-ID: Hi all, I am the one who first posts all ARISS announcements to the SAREX BB (_sarex at amsat.org_ (mailto:sarex at amsat.org) ) concerning upcoming scheduling, etc. So you would need to be on the SAREX-BB mailing list to get those regularly. I do not normally post directly to the AMSAT-BB (_amsat-bb at amsat.org_ (mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org) ). Within a few days of the contact, Dave AA4KN will also post an announcement to the SAREX BB that has more details concerning the upcoming school and questions to be asked. The upcoming contact is scheduled to be a telebridge via IK1SLD in Italy and Samantha IZ?UDF using IR?ISS. She will be talking to students from Sol Plaatje Primary School, Mahikeng, South Africa, and Scuola Secondaria di I Grado, Caprino Bergamasco, Italy. The contact time is scheduled to be Sat 2015-05-02 14:34:27 UTC at about 45 deg max elevation. It is recommended that one start listening approximately 10 minute before the announced time to make sure that there was no orbital change. And make sure you are using the very latest Keps set. Often times we are able to simulcast the contact via the IRLP and Echolink systems. John AG9D usually will post an announcement if the contact is going to be on IRLP or Echolink as he handles the interface for ARISS. Sometimes the schools will also stream using their own system. We try to post if any of this is going to happen. Hope this helps. Thanks for your interest in ARISS. 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors Huntington Beach, CA In a message dated 5/1/2015 11:16:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hans at intekom.co.za writes: Hi I am facilitating the South African end. It is via telebridge Hans -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Doug - k4GKJ Sent: 01 May 2015 05:52 PM To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS contact May 2nd I hear a rumor of a contact May 2nd, 14:30 UTC....... Africa & Italy with Samantha...... Don't know if it's telebridge or direct..... Check your prediction software to see if your in the footprint at that time... Doug K4GKJ Doug Bennight K4GKJ 528-5772 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From clintbradford at mac.com Fri May 1 20:06:54 2015 From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 13:06:54 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Pre-amp? Message-ID: In front of scores of audiences over the years, I have never disappointed audiences and failed to hear SO-50 - without ever using a pre-amp with either my tape measure beam or Arrow Satellite antennas ... Such handheld ops, as low as 10-15 degrees of elevation, can be worked without a pre-amp. I'd hate to see you invest in a 440 pre-amp, when the next "big" easily worked project will have a 2M downlink ... (grin) Clint K6LCS http://www.work-sat.com From mccardelm at gmail.com Fri May 1 20:58:46 2015 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (EMike McCardel) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 16:58:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS contact May 2nd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C755CE8-F4E6-4CD1-9626-D9042E82D270@gmail.com> Upcoming contacts are usually reported in the weekly ANS which is published in AMSAT-BB as well. EMike EMike McCardel, KC8YLD VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Doug - k4GKJ wrote: > > I hear a rumor of a contact May 2nd, 14:30 UTC....... Africa & Italy with > Samantha...... > Don't know if it's telebridge or direct..... Check your prediction software to see if your in the footprint at that time... > > Doug > K4GKJ > > > Doug Bennight > K4GKJ > 528-5772 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri May 1 21:18:01 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 17:18:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz Message-ID: Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm still digesting the info. TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything. Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them yourself? http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav Here's another question that has me excited: Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS pass at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825 MHz and heard its digipeater easily. Then I left the radio on. I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the time I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be terrestrial. Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the ISS wasn't in sight... Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their stations on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens? I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to figure out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2 minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to the idea that this was an internet gateway. Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of it, the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't recording. As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to get two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard, maybe the operator in NJ is on this list. I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim and amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone wants the unedited videos I can put them up too. http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 From dwarnberg at verizon.net Fri May 1 21:44:48 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 17:44:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006701d08458$0f431f30$2dc95d90$@net> For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV.. You will also need a packet engine... Here is what I use Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/ UISS and RX-SSTV web site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/ Hope this helps 73's David KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm still digesting the info. TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything. Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them yourself? http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav Here's another question that has me excited: Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS pass at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825 MHz and heard its digipeater easily. Then I left the radio on. I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the time I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be terrestrial. Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the ISS wasn't in sight... Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their stations on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens? I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to figure out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2 minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to the idea that this was an internet gateway. Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of it, the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't recording. As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to get two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard, maybe the operator in NJ is on this list. I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim and amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone wants the unedited videos I can put them up too. http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tnetcenter at gmail.com Fri May 1 22:11:40 2015 From: tnetcenter at gmail.com (Jeff Moore) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 15:11:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I could be wrong, but it's possible you may have heard a different satellite transmitting. It's also possible and more likely, you heard someone with their APRS or Packet station on the wrong frequency. This occurs occasionally with certain dual band radios with built in packet modems like the D700/D710 or the Alinco 635 in that they are in a packet or APRS mode and for whatever reason, the operator changes to a different frequency on that side of the radio w/o shutting off the data capability. It can happen on single band radios as well but not as often, it's easy to do it with the dual band radios. This occurs all to often all over the country. I hear it once or twice a month on repeater and simplex frequencies in my area so I know it's a widespread occurrence. 7 3 Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 2:18 PM, John Brier wrote: > Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm > still digesting the info. > > TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet > frequency when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and > figure out who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything. > Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them > yourself? > > > http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav > > > http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav > > > Here's another question that has me excited: > > Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey > for several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an > ISS pass at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I > tuned to 145.825 MHz and heard its digipeater easily. > > Then I left the radio on. > > I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 > AM local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was > confused because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a > while. I confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away > ocean at the time I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew > they must be terrestrial. Still, it seemed odd that someone or > something was transmitting when the ISS wasn't in sight... > > Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their > stations on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that > happens? > > I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to > figure out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was > transmitting every 2 minutes. It was almost certainly an automated > setup, adding credence to the idea that this was an internet gateway. > Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video > of it, the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I > wasn't recording. As I drove further away it only got weaker and > weaker. I did manage to get two half way decent recordings of it, but > I have tried decoding them with Soundmodem on Windows and it's not > printing out anything like it normally does. I am very new to packet, > only becoming interested in it because the ISS uses it, so I thought > maybe someone else might be more equipped to decode it. Or certainly > someone could shed some light on what I heard, maybe the operator in > NJ is on this list. > > I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim > and amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if > someone wants the unedited videos I can put them up too. > > > http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav > > > http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet_145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav > > John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From dwarnberg at verizon.net Fri May 1 22:17:26 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 18:17:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz In-Reply-To: <006701d08458$0f431f30$2dc95d90$@net> References: <006701d08458$0f431f30$2dc95d90$@net> Message-ID: <006801d0845c$9e0093c0$da01bb40$@net> John, Almost forgot... those are basically APRS packets you are hearing.. so to test your setup prior to waiting for the ISS to fly over tune your radio to 144.39 to listen a test the software... Then when it's working to your satisfaction tune back over to the ISS data and listen away... Thanks David -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David L Warnberg Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:45 PM To: 'John Brier'; 'AMSAT BB' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV.. You will also need a packet engine... Here is what I use Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/ UISS and RX-SSTV web site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/ Hope this helps 73's David KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm still digesting the info. TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything. Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them yourself? http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav Here's another question that has me excited: Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS pass at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825 MHz and heard its digipeater easily. Then I left the radio on. I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the time I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be terrestrial. Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the ISS wasn't in sight... Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their stations on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens? I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to figure out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2 minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to the idea that this was an internet gateway. Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of it, the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't recording. As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to get two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard, maybe the operator in NJ is on this list. I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim and amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone wants the unedited videos I can put them up too. http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jimlist at zoho.com Fri May 1 22:23:13 2015 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 23:23:13 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change In-Reply-To: <553AB7FC.9040508@zoho.com> References: <55282E67.7020104@zoho.com> <553AB7FC.9040508@zoho.com> Message-ID: <5543FCD1.8040305@zoho.com> Hi All, Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 2315UTC) been commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to autonomous mode on Sunday pm. Have FUN! 73 Jim G3WGM From tnetcenter at gmail.com Fri May 1 22:28:01 2015 From: tnetcenter at gmail.com (Jeff Moore) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 15:28:01 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz In-Reply-To: <006801d0845c$9e0093c0$da01bb40$@net> References: <006701d08458$0f431f30$2dc95d90$@net> <006801d0845c$9e0093c0$da01bb40$@net> Message-ID: Basically they are AX.25 packets NOT APRS packets. I know that on my radio (D710), the setup to work the ISS via packet is different from the normal APRS setup. It's been a while since I've done either on that radio, but I do know that the setups are mutually exclusive. Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:17 PM, David L Warnberg wrote: > John, > Almost forgot... those are basically APRS packets you are hearing.. > so to test your setup prior to waiting for the ISS to fly over tune your > radio to 144.39 to listen a test the software... > > Then when it's working to your satisfaction tune back over to the ISS data > and listen away... > > Thanks > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David L > Warnberg > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:45 PM > To: 'John Brier'; 'AMSAT BB' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet > heard > on ISS freq 145.825 MHz > > For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV > transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV.. > > You will also need a packet engine... > > Here is what I use > > Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/ UISS and RX-SSTV web > site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/ > > Hope this helps > > 73's > David > KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on > ISS freq 145.825 MHz > > Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm > still > digesting the info. > > TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency > when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out > who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything. > Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them > yourself? > > > http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet > _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav > > > http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet > _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav > > > Here's another question that has me excited: > > Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for > several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS pass > at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825 > MHz and heard its digipeater easily. > > Then I left the radio on. > > I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM > local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused > because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I > confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the time > I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be terrestrial. > Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the > ISS > wasn't in sight... > > Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their stations > on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens? > > I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to figure > out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2 > minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to the > idea that this was an internet gateway. > Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of it, > the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't > recording. > As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to get > two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with > Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally > does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the > ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to > decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard, > maybe > the operator in NJ is on this list. > > I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim and > amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone > wants > the unedited videos I can put them up too. > > > http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet > _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav > > > http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet > _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav > > John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From richard.siff at verizon.net Fri May 1 22:33:29 2015 From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 18:33:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz In-Reply-To: References: <006701d08458$0f431f30$2dc95d90$@net> <006801d0845c$9e0093c0$da01bb40$@net> Message-ID: <584E1AE3620D4A5A97B0F26EB354F2C2@RichardPC> Which program is used for APRS packet Window 7? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Moore" To: "AMSAT BB" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz > Basically they are AX.25 packets NOT APRS packets. I know that on my > radio > (D710), the setup to work the ISS via packet is different from the normal > APRS setup. It's been a while since I've done either on that radio, but I > do know that the setups are mutually exclusive. > > Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY > > On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:17 PM, David L Warnberg > wrote: > >> John, >> Almost forgot... those are basically APRS packets you are >> hearing.. >> so to test your setup prior to waiting for the ISS to fly over tune your >> radio to 144.39 to listen a test the software... >> >> Then when it's working to your satisfaction tune back over to the ISS >> data >> and listen away... >> >> Thanks >> >> David >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David L >> Warnberg >> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:45 PM >> To: 'John Brier'; 'AMSAT BB' >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet >> heard >> on ISS freq 145.825 MHz >> >> For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV >> transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV.. >> >> You will also need a packet engine... >> >> Here is what I use >> >> Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/ UISS and RX-SSTV >> web >> site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/ >> >> Hope this helps >> >> 73's >> David >> KK4QOE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John >> Brier >> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM >> To: AMSAT BB >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard >> on >> ISS freq 145.825 MHz >> >> Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm >> still >> digesting the info. >> >> TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet frequency >> when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out >> who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything. >> Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them >> yourself? >> >> >> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet >> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav >> >> >> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet >> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav >> >> >> Here's another question that has me excited: >> >> Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for >> several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS >> pass >> at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to 145.825 >> MHz and heard its digipeater easily. >> >> Then I left the radio on. >> >> I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around 11:33 AM >> local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused >> because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I >> confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at the >> time >> I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be >> terrestrial. >> Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the >> ISS >> wasn't in sight... >> >> Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their >> stations >> on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens? >> >> I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to >> figure >> out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting every 2 >> minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence to >> the >> idea that this was an internet gateway. >> Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video of >> it, >> the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't >> recording. >> As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage to >> get >> two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them with >> Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it normally >> does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because the >> ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to >> decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard, >> maybe >> the operator in NJ is on this list. >> >> I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well trim >> and >> amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone >> wants >> the unedited videos I can put them up too. >> >> >> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet >> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav >> >> >> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet >> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav >> >> John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to >> all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to >> all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bruninga at usna.edu Fri May 1 22:36:21 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 18:36:21 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38464bef6feecb259a03231f40b00d31@mail.gmail.com> They are probably from PCSAT (NO44) which also acts like a digipeater on 145.825 when sun angles are good. But PCSAT is *barely alive*. It can barely do one or two packet users per pass before the batteries die again (every orbit). You can hear PCSAT more than you can decode it, since the batteries are so weak, they usually cannot even finish a single packet before the TX power drops off to nothing. So you never decode bcause you don't get the valid checksum at the end. You might tyry having PASSALL ON... Bob, WB4APR > I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet > frequency when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and > figure out who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything. > Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them > yourself? From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat May 2 00:00:33 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 20:00:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: Elk antenna In-Reply-To: <001201d08467$cc4f9590$64eec0b0$@charter.net> References: <001201d08467$cc4f9590$64eec0b0$@charter.net> Message-ID: I'm not sure if we will have a booth there, but the Elk And Arrows are Dayton only. Sorry. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Ted wrote: > > How about SeaPac, Drew?? > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew > Glasbrenner > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:51 AM > To: TJ Campie > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WTB: Elk antenna > > If you are going to Dayton, they will be available at the AMSAT booth. Get > it early because we normally sell out. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 1, 2015, at 1:43 PM, TJ Campie wrote: >> >> Interested in purchasing an Elk dualband LPDA, please contact off list >> if you have something! >> >> >> 73, W0EA >> TJ >> ---- >> QRP ARCI #14612 | CW Ops #953 | SKCC #4593T NAQCC #3768 | Flying Pigs >> QRP #2254 http://W0EA.us *Because QRO is too easy (but sometimes >> required!)* _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Sat May 2 01:25:38 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 21:25:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz In-Reply-To: <584E1AE3620D4A5A97B0F26EB354F2C2@RichardPC> References: <006701d08458$0f431f30$2dc95d90$@net> <006801d0845c$9e0093c0$da01bb40$@net> <584E1AE3620D4A5A97B0F26EB354F2C2@RichardPC> Message-ID: <55442792.80700@frcuba.co.cu> I don't like flag wars, but in *my experience* windows soundomdem & direwolf are the two best... Direwolf has a powerful processing on the RX path with only a few missing packets but doesn't do connected mode (on windows), soundmodem have a better (easy?) GUI than Direwolf. This two has the smallest rate of "not decoded" packet so far in my tests on 300/1200 bauds Both talks KISS and AGW protocols, that's enough for APRS compatibility wit 99% of the APRS software on the market. Other softs are AGW-PE, MixWin, Linux Soundmodem. I repeat, in *my experience*... Tip 1: there are two "soundomdem" software, one for linux with a few years of work and a recent one for windows that has nothing to do with the linux version, so it's desirable that we refer to the sistem of soundmodem when we speak... Tip 2: Direwolf is multi-platform, it can work on linux also, and integrates 100% with the AX.25 stack/xastir/etc... 73 El 01/05/15 a las 18:33, Rich/wa4bue escibi?: > Which program is used for APRS packet Window 7? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Moore" > To: "AMSAT BB" > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet > heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz > > >> Basically they are AX.25 packets NOT APRS packets. I know that on my >> radio >> (D710), the setup to work the ISS via packet is different from the normal >> APRS setup. It's been a while since I've done either on that radio, >> but I >> do know that the setups are mutually exclusive. >> >> Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY >> >> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:17 PM, David L Warnberg >> wrote: >> >>> John, >>> Almost forgot... those are basically APRS packets you are >>> hearing.. >>> so to test your setup prior to waiting for the ISS to fly over tune your >>> radio to 144.39 to listen a test the software... >>> >>> Then when it's working to your satisfaction tune back over to the ISS >>> data >>> and listen away... >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> David >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David L >>> Warnberg >>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:45 PM >>> To: 'John Brier'; 'AMSAT BB' >>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet >>> heard >>> on ISS freq 145.825 MHz >>> >>> For the packet data take a look at UISS software... also for those SSTV >>> transmissions from the ISS look at RX-SSTV.. >>> >>> You will also need a packet engine... >>> >>> Here is what I use >>> >>> Packet Engine Pro web site = http://www.sv2agw.com/ UISS and RX-SSTV >>> web >>> site = http://users.belgacom.net/hamradio/ >>> >>> Hope this helps >>> >>> 73's >>> David >>> KK4QOE >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John >>> Brier >>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM >>> To: AMSAT BB >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet >>> heard on >>> ISS freq 145.825 MHz >>> >>> Thanks for all the responses on SO-50 preamps and portable setups. I'm >>> still >>> digesting the info. >>> >>> TL;DR: I heard automated packet transmissions on the ISS packet >>> frequency >>> when the ISS wasn't in sight and recorded them to try and figure out >>> who/what they are, but my software isn't decoding anything. >>> Can you help me understand what they were, or even better, decode them >>> yourself? >>> >>> >>> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet >>> >>> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav >>> >>> >>> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet >>> >>> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav >>> >>> >>> Here's another question that has me excited: >>> >>> Yesterday after having visited with family in Maplewood, New Jersey for >>> several days, I drove home to North Carolina. I knew there was an ISS >>> pass >>> at 10:26 AM/1426 UTC, right when I started my trip, so I tuned to >>> 145.825 >>> MHz and heard its digipeater easily. >>> >>> Then I left the radio on. >>> >>> I'm not sure where I was in NJ, but about one hour later, around >>> 11:33 AM >>> local/1533 UTC, I heard packet on the frequency again but I was confused >>> because there weren't supposed to be any more passes for a while. I >>> confirmed on my phone that the ISS was over some far away ocean at >>> the time >>> I was hearing these new transmissions, so I knew they must be >>> terrestrial. >>> Still, it seemed odd that someone or something was transmitting when the >>> ISS >>> wasn't in sight... >>> >>> Maybe it's an internet gateway I thought. Or do people leave their >>> stations >>> on the ISS frequency 24/7 so they can "work" any pass that happens? >>> >>> I tried recording videos of the transmissions for later decoding to >>> figure >>> out who or what it was. Eventually I realized it was transmitting >>> every 2 >>> minutes. It was almost certainly an automated setup, adding credence >>> to the >>> idea that this was an internet gateway. >>> Unfortunately, before I realized that, and after recording one video >>> of it, >>> the best reception I received during my drive by "pass," I wasn't >>> recording. >>> As I drove further away it only got weaker and weaker. I did manage >>> to get >>> two half way decent recordings of it, but I have tried decoding them >>> with >>> Soundmodem on Windows and it's not printing out anything like it >>> normally >>> does. I am very new to packet, only becoming interested in it because >>> the >>> ISS uses it, so I thought maybe someone else might be more equipped to >>> decode it. Or certainly someone could shed some light on what I heard, >>> maybe >>> the operator in NJ is on this list. >>> >>> I used Audacity to record the audio off the videos I made as well >>> trim and >>> amplify the audio, but I haven't done anything else, though if someone >>> wants >>> the unedited videos I can put them up too. >>> >>> >>> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet >>> >>> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_one.wav >>> >>> >>> http://cupcakecarnival.net/sites/default/files/New_Jersey_Terrestrial_Packet >>> >>> _145825_2015-04-30-1540_UTC_two.wav >>> >>> John Brier, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to >>> all >>> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >>> official >>> views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From richard.siff at verizon.net Sat May 2 02:30:23 2015 From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue) Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 22:30:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Great Bridge HS Message-ID: Thanks for the QSOs. We had 6 students participating. W4GBH From k7trkradio at charter.net Fri May 1 23:37:33 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 16:37:33 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: Elk antenna In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201d08467$cc4f9590$64eec0b0$@charter.net> How about SeaPac, Drew?? 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:51 AM To: TJ Campie Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WTB: Elk antenna If you are going to Dayton, they will be available at the AMSAT booth. Get it early because we normally sell out. 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2015, at 1:43 PM, TJ Campie wrote: > > Interested in purchasing an Elk dualband LPDA, please contact off list > if you have something! > > > 73, W0EA > TJ > ---- > QRP ARCI #14612 | CW Ops #953 | SKCC #4593T NAQCC #3768 | Flying Pigs > QRP #2254 http://W0EA.us *Because QRO is too easy (but sometimes > required!)* _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pa3weg at amsat.org Sat May 2 22:32:13 2015 From: pa3weg at amsat.org (wouter weggelaar) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 00:32:13 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit Message-ID: Dear all, I would like to inform you all that tomorrow, Monday 4th of may, there is a fairly high chance we will be allowed to test the AMSAT-NL transponder for one full orbit. Details will be made available on short notice, but we are aiming for an activation starting at ~08:30 UTC and lasting until ~10:10 UTC. The aim is to characterize the power budget on board EO-79. So we encourage the usage of this new transponder. Please also report the QSOs and signal reports to pa3weg at amsat.org Wouter PA3WEG AMSAT-NL From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Sat May 2 23:32:16 2015 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 18:32:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20384B8346334DDF8595512BF29C87A6@AA5PKPC> Great news, Wouter. Sadly 0830 - 1010 UTC is middle of the night for N. America. But I suspect there will be night owls here to check it out. Glenn AA5PK -----Original Message----- From: wouter weggelaar Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 5:32 PM To: AMSAT-BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit Dear all, I would like to inform you all that tomorrow, Monday 4th of may, there is a fairly high chance we will be allowed to test the AMSAT-NL transponder for one full orbit. Details will be made available on short notice, but we are aiming for an activation starting at ~08:30 UTC and lasting until ~10:10 UTC. The aim is to characterize the power budget on board EO-79. So we encourage the usage of this new transponder. Please also report the QSOs and signal reports to pa3weg at amsat.org Wouter PA3WEG AMSAT-NL From n8hm at arrl.net Sat May 2 23:38:42 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 19:38:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit In-Reply-To: <20384B8346334DDF8595512BF29C87A6@AA5PKPC> References: <20384B8346334DDF8595512BF29C87A6@AA5PKPC> Message-ID: I'd definitely be up to try it out, but there are no passes over North America at that time. 73, Paul, N8HM On Saturday, May 2, 2015, Glenn Miller - AA5PK wrote: > Great news, Wouter. > > Sadly 0830 - 1010 UTC is middle of the night for N. America. But I > suspect there will be night owls here to check it out. > > Glenn AA5PK > > -----Original Message----- From: wouter weggelaar Sent: Saturday, May 02, > 2015 5:32 PM To: AMSAT-BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder > testing for one full orbit > Dear all, > > I would like to inform you all that tomorrow, Monday 4th of may, there is a > fairly high chance we will be allowed to test the AMSAT-NL transponder for > one full orbit. > > Details will be made available on short notice, but we are aiming for an > activation starting at ~08:30 UTC and lasting until ~10:10 UTC. > > The aim is to characterize the power budget on board EO-79. So we encourage > the usage of this new transponder. Please also report the QSOs and signal > reports to pa3weg at amsat.org > > Wouter PA3WEG > AMSAT-NL > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kk0sd at tnics.com Sun May 3 03:04:22 2015 From: kk0sd at tnics.com (Gary Mayfield) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 22:04:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] The Reflector Message-ID: <0c0801d0854d$dade4480$909acd80$@com> I am not longer seeing messages I send to the AMSAT-BB reflector. I use to see them. Has a policy been changed? Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd From wageners at gmail.com Sun May 3 03:12:17 2015 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 22:12:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] The Reflector In-Reply-To: <0c0801d0854d$dade4480$909acd80$@com> References: <0c0801d0854d$dade4480$909acd80$@com> Message-ID: Don't know if this is getting posted but had several messages rejected one about the ISS having HamTv up and running. 73, Stefan VE4NSA On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gary Mayfield wrote: > I am not longer seeing messages I send to the AMSAT-BB reflector. I use to > see them. Has a policy been changed? > > > > Thanks and 73, > > Joe kk0sd > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun May 3 03:13:09 2015 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 23:13:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-123 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-123 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. 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May 3, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-123 Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit - May 4 Wouter Weggelaar PA3WEG from AMSAT-NL reported via the AMSAT-BB that on Monday May, there is a fairly high chance that the AMSAT-NL transponder will be tested for one full orbit. Details will be made available on short notice, but the target time for an activation starts at approximately 08:30 UTC and may last until about 10:10 UTC. The aim of the test is to characterize the power budget on board EO- 79. Usage of the transponder is being encourage. Please also report the QSOs and signal reports to pa3weg at amsat.org [ANS thanks Wouter Wouter PA3WEG for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- EO-79 / QB50p1 First Transponder Test Success AMSAT-NL is delighted to announce that an initial series of tests of the FUNcube transponder payload aboard the QB50p1 CubeSat have been successfully completed. QB50p1 is one of two QB50 precursor spacecraft that were launched from Yasny in Russia in June 2014. The primary science payloads are still being extensively tested but it has now been possible to undertake a short test of the transponder payload as well. The transponder is intended as a long term secondary mission following the initial technology demonstration and de-risking phase. After spending ten months in space, the transponder was commanded on for short periods during each of the three morning passes over Europe on Monday 27th April 2015. A number of FUNcube team members in the Netherlands and in the UK were standing by to run through a predefined test plan. The transponder has a similar performance to that of FUNcube-1 but the passband is nominally 5 kHz wider by design. It is not yet known when this transponder may be available for regular usage but AMSAT-NL is delighted to be able to report that the hardware is functioning and is very grateful to the QB50 project, the Von Karman Institute and ISIS B.V. for their ongoing support. More information about the QB50 project can be found at https://www.qb50.eu/ AMSAT-NL: http://amsat-nl.org AMSAT-UK: http://amsat-uk.org [ANS Thanks Graham G3VZV for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2015 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice It is time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of Directors election. Four director's terms expire this year: Barry Baines, WD4ASW, Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, Mark Hammond, N8MH, and Jerry Buxton, N0JY. In addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for one year terms. A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and call, and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304 Kensington, MD 20895-2526. In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by electronic means. These include e-mail, Fax, or electronic image of a petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to MARTHA at AMSAT.ORG or Faxed to (301) 822- 4371. No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June 15th at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional written nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST be received at the AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days following the close of nominations on June 15th. ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS. [ANS thanks the AMSAT Office for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Where Over the World Is Astronaut Scott Kelly?" Geography From Space Trivia Contest During his year-long stay on the International Space Station, astronaut Scott Kelly wants to test your knowledge of the world through a geography trivia game on Twitter. Traveling more than 220 miles above Earth, and at 17,500 miles per hour, he circumnavigates the globe more than a dozen times a day. This gives Kelly the opportunity to see and photograph various geographical locations on Earth. In fact, part of his job while in space is to capture images of Earth for scientific observations. Follow @StationCDRKelly on Twitter and each Wednesday, Kelly will tweet a picture and ask the public to identify the place depicted in the photo. The first person to identify the place correctly will win an autographed copy of the picture. Kelly plans to continue posting weekly contest photos until he returns from the space station in March 2016. For more information, visit http://tinyurl.com/ANS123-ScottKelly. To learn more about the One-Year Mission, visit http://www.nasa.gov/content/one-year-crew. [ANS thanks the NASA Education Express Message for April 30, 2015 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Delfi-C3 has been in orbit 7 years As of April 28, Delfi-C3 has been in orbit 7 years. Wouter Weggelaarb, PA3WEG, reports, "When we designed Delfi-C3, no- one would have dreamed it would last this long. "The satellite still remains healthy and strong. We are delighted to still get the support of the ham radio community and in all those years there have been very few days where no telemetry was decoded and submitted. Thank you very much to those still decoding and sending in telemetry and also to those still signing up for new accounts. "Delfi-C3 has been praised numerous times as the ideal example of a cooperation of radio amateurs and an university and the team is very proud of that. Together we have demonstrated the first successful Distributed Ground Station Network (DGSN) built around radio amateurs. We as a community can be very proud of this achievement! Without your continued support, this would not have been possible." Wouer goes on to report that they may need to re-locate their data collection server. When this happens he will report appropriate updates to the AMSAT-BB. [ANS Thanks Wouter PA3WEG for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- $50SAT/MO-76/Eagle-2 Update The following status of $50sat/MO-76, one of the first Pocketqubes, was recently posted by Michael Kirkhart,KD8QBA on the 50dollarsat Yahoo group. Here is an excerpt: "17 Months in Space, Still Working, and How Long Will a $10 Camera Battery last "Tuesday, April 21, 2015 marked the 17 month anniversary of the launch of $50SAT/MO-76/Eagle-2, and believe or not, it is still operating. Unfortunately, the battery capacity has degraded to the point where the satellite spends a significant amount of time with the battery voltage below the 3300 mV minimum required for enabling the transmitter. As a result, those of us who live in the northern hemisphere no longer hear any transmissions during the evening passes, and for now, rarely hear any during the daytime passes as well. The last telemetry packet I captured here in EN82 land was April 21, and the last one which was error-free on April 10. Fortunately, I have been able hear it operate over Anton's (ZR6AIC) WebSDR station in South Africa during the evening passes (which occur between 4:00 and 6:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time), and occasionally am able to capture error-free telemetry packets. The last one available is from April 24 at 21:25 UTC. "This situation was fully expected; when looking at the battery voltage chart (which, along with all the other telemetry, is available from our Dropbox at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/l3919wtfiywk2gf/AABRl4iM5BFqVAcLQGSmdsVga/ Telemetryanalysis/Current-Telemetry) the readings took a large drop sometime after February 12. Given this was a $10 camera battery that had gone through over 6,000 orbits, each with temperature swings of -30 degrees C to +30 degrees C, it is surprising it has lasted this long! At this point, it is starting to behave more like a large capacitor than a battery. "As we get closer to summer here in the northern hemisphere (and after this winter, it cannot come soon enough), $50SAT/MO-76/Eagle-2 will spend more time in the sun before it makes each pass; this means it will be warm enough to enable solar power sooner in the pass, and makes it more likely it we will be able to hear it transmit before it disappears over the southern horizon. Those of you who live in the southern hemisphere, however, should still be able to hear it during both daytime and evening passes. If you could, we would certainly appreciate any telemetry you could gather and post. "The orbit continues to decay at an average rate of about 1.5 km/week; apogee is just below 570 km at 569.8 km, and perigee is at 538.2 km. Someday, I will attempt to determine when it might actually de-orbit. If any of you have access to STK or some other fancy software which might be able to do a de-orbit prediction, please feel free to run a simulation and let us all know. Some basic parameters you might need are as follows: TLEs as of 2015-04-24, 23:53:15 UTC: EAGLE 2 1 39436U 13066W 15114.82864817 .00033340 00000-0 23789-2 0 9991 2 39436 97.7463 190.7550 0022811 281.2509 78.6152 15.04244039 77466 Using these, the following can be computed: Semi-major axis = 5743.7488705249 km Apogee = 569.7766621696 km Perigee = 538.1516552847 Average cross-sectional area = 0.014252 m^2 Mass = 210 g Area/mass ratio = 0.06787 m^2/kg In the meantime, I will continue to update the Dropbox with any new telemetry gathered. Please keep it coming, even if it has errors or is incomplete. At this point, we are happy to simply know that it is still operating." [ANS Thanks Howie DeFelice AB2S and Michael Kirkhart, KD8QBA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2015 ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference) Announced The 2015 DCC will be in Chicago on October 9 - 11 in the northwest suburb of Arlington Heights not far from O'Hare airport.The DCC has two full days of Technical presentations on Friday & Saturday and on Sunday morning a deep dive into a technical subject. On Saturday there is a full day of concurrent Introductory sessions. Be sure to register for the DCC and reserve your hotel room early. DCC information is available at: http://www.tapr.org/dccLook forward to your participation in the DCC. TAPR at Dayton Hamvention TAPR will have booths, forums and a joint banquet with AMSAT at the Dayton Hamvention. Details about TAPR activities at the Hamvention are available at: http://www.tapr.org/dayton [ANS thanks Mark WB9QXB for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT at the Dayton Hamvention - Fourth call for volunteers The Dayton Hamvention is less than three weeks away! Last year, we had 52 people assist with the AMSAT booth at Dayton. We've had a good response so far to our call for volunteers, but we could really use another 10-15 people. The interaction with AMSAT members, satellite operators, designers, and builders makes the whole experience a lot of fun. Meet or renew acquaintances, exchange operating tips, and find out what antennas, software and equipment other AMSAT members use. We currently expect all of the AMSAT senior officers and 5 of the 7 board members to be there too. The 2015 Hamvention is May 15-17. Would you consider helping AMSAT at Dayton this year? If you're an experienced operator, great! We can use you and your experience. If you've never operated a satellite before, but want to learn more, that's OK. We can use your help too. Whether you're available for only a couple of hours or if you can spend the entire weekend with us, your help would be greatly appreciated. Please send an e-mail to Steve, n9ip at amsat.org if you can help. Thank you! [ANS thanks Steve N9IP for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Plans Dayton Rollout for 2015 "Getting Started" Satellite Book Gould Smith's book, "Getting Started With Amateur Satellites", is being updated to tell you all about how you can get ready to operate through the Fox-1 satellites launching later this year. Additional chapters in the book tell you about tracking software, orbital mechanics, antennas, radios, Doppler tuning, and operating techniques. Chapters are also being added to tell you about the new satellites soon becoming available for amateur radio. Going beyond brief descriptions in hamfest flyers, this book will provide a complete reference for new satellite users to assemble a basic station and to make your first satellite contacts. Also this book you will teach you how to incrementally upgrade your initial FM satellite station, time and budget permitting, to include automated tracking as well as operating through the CW/SSB linear passband satellites. A companion Fox-1A reference sheet is also being planned for release at Dayton. This will be made available for AMSAT's FieldOps team for distribution at hamfests and satellite operating demonstrations. Watch for the 2015 "Getting Started With Amateur Satellites" book and reference sheet at the AMSAT booth at the Dayton Hamvention. The book will also be available in the AMSAT Store shortly after Dayton: http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ [ANS thanks the AMSAT Office for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT FieldOps Team SO-50 Operating Guide is Available AMSAT's Director of Field Operations, Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK says the FieldOps team is working to make how-to-operate-satellites information readily available on the web. Based on a hamfest handout designed and written by Patrick, "Getting Started with the FM Satellites", is available for download. Patrick shows the basic equipment and techniques to learn successful operating on the satellites. This guide also gives specific information on how to operate via SO-50, the only currently available FM satellite at the moment. Patrick's guide is posted at: http://www.amsat.org --> Satellite Info --> Station and Operating Hints. The direct link is http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144 where you'll find the link "Operating FM Satellites" (and a link to the Spanish version also). [ANS thanks the AMSAT FieldOps Team for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-SM donates $1600 USD for the FOX satellite project "AMSAT-SM believe that FOX project is very important to continue to develop amateur radio on board satellites. We therefore hope that our contribution can help the FOX satellites up in space." AMSAT-SM in Sweden has aprox 150 members. Membership is currently free and registration is done online at our website: www.amsat.se [ANS thanks Lars Thunberg SM0TGU for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News + A Successful double contact was made with schools in South Africa and in Italy. Participants at Sol Plaatje Primary School, Mahikeng, South Africa and Scuola Secondaria di 1 Grado, Caprino Bergamasco, Italy queried Astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti IZ?UDF who was using the Callsign IR?ISS. The contact began 2015-05-02 14:34:27 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was telebridged via IK1SLD. ARISS Mentor was IZ2GOJ. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule Ryazan, Russia, direct via TBD Contact is a go for Thu 2015-05-07 08:30 UTC The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Mikhail Korniyenko RN3BF Kursk, Russia, WWII veterans, direct via TBD Contact is a go for Sat 2015-05-09 08:20 UTC The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Gennady Padalka RN3DT >From 2015-05-11 to 2015-06-14, there will be no US Operational Segment (USOS) hams on board ISS. So any schools contacts during this period will be conducted by the ARISS Russia team. [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + Grid Master Award # 3 Congratulations to WA4NVM Rick for working and confirming all 488 US grids GRID MASTER AWARD #3 4-26-2015 + 5 in EM55 Award Congratulations to WF7L Jeff for 5 in EM55 award # 58 [ANS Thanks Damon WA4HFN for the above --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX AMSAT User Services and the Editors of the AMSAT New Service pass on our condolences to ANS Weekly Co-Editor Joe Spier K6WAO and his family on the death of Joe's mother this week. In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, KC8YLD kc8yld at amsat dot org From kk0sd at tnics.com Sun May 3 03:18:35 2015 From: kk0sd at tnics.com (Gary Mayfield) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 22:18:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FODTrack with G-5500 Rotator Message-ID: <0c1001d0854f$d7317e40$85947ac0$@com> Well, I saw my last message so I will try again. I have FODTrack controller that I use with SatPC32 v12.6 on a WindowsME laptop. Old, I know, but it works just fine and has worked fine for many years with a G-5400 rotator.. Newer versions of SatPC32 do not like WindowsME and newer operating systems do not like the FODTrack. We intend to drag it out to Field Day for the ooh and awe factor of automatic rotator control. Unfortunately I will be working with kb0lcr's G-5500 rotators instead of my G-5400 rotators as I am too lazy to take the 5400 down. Is there a way to make the FODTrack work with the G-5500 rotator and its different azimuth scale? Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd From w7lrd at comcast.net Sun May 3 03:52:51 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 03:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Planetary Society light sail project Message-ID: <1616474981.1197203.1430625171835.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hello-Does anyone know of any collaboration between AMSAT and The Planetary Society's efforts with their light sail project? Scheduled for launch this May, sponsored by NASA's ELaNa program. They (Planetary Society) mention there are only two monitoring stations one in at Cal Poly and the other at Georgia Tech. whereas we (AMSAT) have potential world wide monitoring capability. This light sail effort is the first of two. Could a light sail be in our future? More information about all this can be googled. 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle From kk0sd at tnics.com Sun May 3 12:14:48 2015 From: kk0sd at tnics.com (Gary Mayfield) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 07:14:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Failed Messages Message-ID: <0c4201d0859a$c024f650$406ee2f0$@com> I was able to beat the bounce out of my SPAM filter. Reporting-MTA: dns; lansing182.amsat.org X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 5225C8818 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; kk0sd at tnics.com Arrival-Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 05:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Final-Recipient: rfc822; amsat-bb at amsat.org Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; User unknown in virtual alias table From wa4sca at gmail.com Sun May 3 13:29:43 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 08:29:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d085a5$37fa4130$a7eec390$@GMAIL.COM> Nothing over North America, but let us know if there is any last minute change. You never know who will be up. 73s, Alan WA4SCA From skristof at etczone.com Sun May 3 14:05:46 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 10:05:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Planetary Society light sail project In-Reply-To: <1616474981.1197203.1430625171835.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1616474981.1197203.1430625171835.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1D3896F4A6674B5D834AAFEBBA6BE4D9@StevePC> What are the downlink frequencies going to be? I couldn't find that info during a brief look at the Planetary Society website. It would be nice if they would provide a link to decoding software, also. Just thinking out loud. We're all in this together! Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof at etczone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob- W7LRD" To: Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 11:52 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Planetary Society light sail project > Hello-Does anyone know of any collaboration between AMSAT and The > Planetary Society's efforts with their light sail project? Scheduled for > launch this May, sponsored by NASA's ELaNa program. They (Planetary > Society) mention there are only two monitoring stations one in at Cal Poly > and the other at Georgia Tech. whereas we (AMSAT) have potential world > wide monitoring capability. This light sail effort is the first of two. > Could a light sail be in our future? More information about all this can > be googled. > 73 Bob W7LRD > Seattle > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 3 14:29:00 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Planetary Society light sail project In-Reply-To: <1D3896F4A6674B5D834AAFEBBA6BE4D9@StevePC> References: <1D3896F4A6674B5D834AAFEBBA6BE4D9@StevePC> Message-ID: <1309847691.862537.1430663340127.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> IARU coordinated frequencies are given at http://www.amsat.org.uk/iaru/ 73 Trevor M5AKA On Sunday, 3 May 2015, 15:06, Steve Kristoff wrote: What are the downlink frequencies going to be? I couldn't find that info during a brief look at the Planetary Society website. It would be nice if they would provide a link to decoding software, also. Just thinking out loud. We're all in this together! Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof at etczone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob- W7LRD" To: Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 11:52 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Planetary Society light sail project > Hello-Does anyone know of any collaboration between AMSAT and The > Planetary Society's efforts with their light sail project? Scheduled for > launch this May, sponsored by NASA's ELaNa program. They (Planetary > Society) mention there are only two monitoring stations one in at Cal Poly > and the other at Georgia Tech. whereas we (AMSAT) have potential world > wide monitoring capability. This light sail effort is the first of two. > Could a light sail be in our future? More information about all this can > be googled. > 73 Bob W7LRD > Seattle > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Sun May 3 16:42:44 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 12:42:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] A good day Message-ID: Digipeated through the ISS, QSOs on SO-50, and downloaded telemetry from AO-73 all before noon today. It's been a good amateur radio satellite day. Update for those who were part of a past thread: I put up an M2 Eggbeater on top of my house. It works better for me on the ISS and AO-73 than did my 5/8 wave vertical. Basically, it's doing what I hoped it would do. (SO-50 is still a backyard with the Arrow antenna adventure.) Someday in the future I will likely go full bore and get myself a rotor, etc., but, for now, I'm a happy camper. Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof at etczone.com From wouterweg at gmail.com Sun May 3 18:52:53 2015 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 20:52:53 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, I can hereby confirm Tomorrows intended activation of the AMSAT-NL FUNcube-3 transponder on QB50p1 / EO-79. Date and time:Monday 4th of May, activation around 0830 UTC for one orbit. TLEs are in the normal repositories, COSPAR 2014-033-R, Object# 40025 We would like people to try the following frequencies if possible: DOWNLINK: 145.960 USB UPLINK: Tune to match downlink +/- 435.065 LSB The transponder is linear inverting, nominally 30kHz wide, and approx. 500mW output. Also, If you find the transponder busy on those frequencies, feel free to move around and use the entire transponder passband. The passband seems to have a "dip" in the middle which is bigger than expected, but we do welcome feedback about the usability. Also, please limit your uplink power, as it looks like this transponder is as sensitive as FUNcube-1. The spacecraft antenna is a monopole, so we would also be interested in signal fading reports. The comissioning of the transponder done to date is very limited, three activations for 5, 10 and 8 minutes respectively. So your reports are greatly appreciated. We do understand this is a very short notice, but hope that some of you will be able to participate. This was a take-it-or-leave-it opportunity offered by the ISIS engineers for our consideration, and we are again very grateful to ISIS and VKI to give us this opportunity. Wouter PA3WEG FUNcube team On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to inform you all that tomorrow, Monday 4th of may, there is > a fairly high chance we will be allowed to test the AMSAT-NL transponder > for one full orbit. > > Details will be made available on short notice, but we are aiming for an > activation starting at ~08:30 UTC and lasting until ~10:10 UTC. > > The aim is to characterize the power budget on board EO-79. So we > encourage the usage of this new transponder. Please also report the QSOs > and signal reports to pa3weg at amsat.org > > Wouter PA3WEG > AMSAT-NL > From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl Sun May 3 19:07:38 2015 From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 21:07:38 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help decoding/understanding terrestrial packet heard on ISS freq 145.825 MHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150503190738.GA2077@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Quoting Jeff Moore who wrote on Fri 2015-05-01 at 15:11: > I could be wrong, but it's possible you may have heard a different > satellite transmitting. Trying to find out why I had satellite 2014-033M added to my gpredict lists I found out this is satellite Dutchifat-1 which also does APRS on 145.825 MHz : http://amsat-uk.org/2012/08/29/duchifat-1-a-145-825-mhz-aprs-cubesat/ Koos van den Hout PD4KH -- Koos van den Hout Homepage: http://idefix.net/ PGP keyid DSS/1024 0xF0D7C263 Webprojects: Camp Wireless http://www.camp-wireless.org/ The Virtual Bookcase http://www.virtualbookcase.com/ From kk0sd at tnics.com Sun May 3 22:36:26 2015 From: kk0sd at tnics.com (Gary Mayfield) Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 17:36:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FODTrack with G-5500 Rotator In-Reply-To: <0c1001d0854f$d7317e40$85947ac0$@com> References: <0c1001d0854f$d7317e40$85947ac0$@com> Message-ID: <0cf101d085f1$97ad1660$c7074320$@com> In SatPC32 - You must not only change the "Turning point" from South to North, but also set the max elevation to 90 not 180 degrees. Then and only then the option to set max azimuth to 450 is enabled. This is under set | rotor setup. Just thought someone else may need to know. Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gary Mayfield Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 10:19 PM To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] FODTrack with G-5500 Rotator Well, I saw my last message so I will try again. I have FODTrack controller that I use with SatPC32 v12.6 on a WindowsME laptop. Old, I know, but it works just fine and has worked fine for many years with a G-5400 rotator.. Newer versions of SatPC32 do not like WindowsME and newer operating systems do not like the FODTrack. We intend to drag it out to Field Day for the ooh and awe factor of automatic rotator control. Unfortunately I will be working with kb0lcr's G-5500 rotators instead of my G-5400 rotators as I am too lazy to take the 5400 down. Is there a way to make the FODTrack work with the G-5500 rotator and its different azimuth scale? Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wouterweg at gmail.com Mon May 4 08:37:16 2015 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:37:16 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Transponder activated at 0830UTC for 95 minutes. Wouter PA3WEG On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: > Hi All, > > I can hereby confirm Tomorrows intended activation of the AMSAT-NL > FUNcube-3 transponder on QB50p1 / EO-79. > Date and time:Monday 4th of May, activation around 0830 UTC for one orbit. > > TLEs are in the normal repositories, COSPAR 2014-033-R, Object# 40025 > > We would like people to try the following frequencies if possible: > DOWNLINK: 145.960 USB > UPLINK: Tune to match downlink +/- 435.065 LSB > The transponder is linear inverting, nominally 30kHz wide, and approx. > 500mW output. > > Also, If you find the transponder busy on those frequencies, feel free to > move around and use the entire transponder passband. > The passband seems to have a "dip" in the middle which is bigger than > expected, but we do welcome feedback about the usability. Also, please > limit your uplink power, as it looks like this transponder is as sensitive > as FUNcube-1. The spacecraft antenna is a monopole, so we would also be > interested in signal fading reports. > > The comissioning of the transponder done to date is very limited, three > activations for 5, 10 and 8 minutes respectively. So your reports are > greatly appreciated. > > We do understand this is a very short notice, but hope that some of you > will be able to participate. > This was a take-it-or-leave-it opportunity offered by the ISIS engineers > for our consideration, and we are again very grateful to ISIS and VKI to > give us this opportunity. > > Wouter PA3WEG > FUNcube team > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Wouter Weggelaar > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I would like to inform you all that tomorrow, Monday 4th of may, there is >> a fairly high chance we will be allowed to test the AMSAT-NL transponder >> for one full orbit. >> >> Details will be made available on short notice, but we are aiming for an >> activation starting at ~08:30 UTC and lasting until ~10:10 UTC. >> >> The aim is to characterize the power budget on board EO-79. So we >> encourage the usage of this new transponder. Please also report the QSOs >> and signal reports to pa3weg at amsat.org >> >> Wouter PA3WEG >> AMSAT-NL >> > > From daniel at destevez.net Mon May 4 08:40:27 2015 From: daniel at destevez.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Daniel_Est=E9vez?=) Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 10:40:27 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5547307B.4050608@destevez.net> El 04/05/15 a las 10:37, Wouter Weggelaar escribi?: > Transponder activated at 0830UTC for 95 minutes. > I think I heard somebody on the transponder a few minutes ago on the SUWS websdr. Signal around 145.965 was too low to copy anything. Hopefully the next pass at 10:00UTC will be better. 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From peter at m3php.com Mon May 4 08:41:57 2015 From: peter at m3php.com (Peter Goodhall) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 09:41:57 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for turning it on, I managed to work Mike G0MJW at 08:36 who was 55 with myself in Oxford IO91JS. as reported in earlier emails did see quite a bit of fading. 73, Peter, 2E0SQL On 4 May 2015 at 09:37, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: > Transponder activated at 0830UTC for 95 minutes. > > Wouter PA3WEG > > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Wouter Weggelaar > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I can hereby confirm Tomorrows intended activation of the AMSAT-NL >> FUNcube-3 transponder on QB50p1 / EO-79. >> Date and time:Monday 4th of May, activation around 0830 UTC for one orbit. >> >> TLEs are in the normal repositories, COSPAR 2014-033-R, Object# 40025 >> >> We would like people to try the following frequencies if possible: >> DOWNLINK: 145.960 USB >> UPLINK: Tune to match downlink +/- 435.065 LSB >> The transponder is linear inverting, nominally 30kHz wide, and approx. >> 500mW output. >> >> Also, If you find the transponder busy on those frequencies, feel free to >> move around and use the entire transponder passband. >> The passband seems to have a "dip" in the middle which is bigger than >> expected, but we do welcome feedback about the usability. Also, please >> limit your uplink power, as it looks like this transponder is as sensitive >> as FUNcube-1. The spacecraft antenna is a monopole, so we would also be >> interested in signal fading reports. >> >> The comissioning of the transponder done to date is very limited, three >> activations for 5, 10 and 8 minutes respectively. So your reports are >> greatly appreciated. >> >> We do understand this is a very short notice, but hope that some of you >> will be able to participate. >> This was a take-it-or-leave-it opportunity offered by the ISIS engineers >> for our consideration, and we are again very grateful to ISIS and VKI to >> give us this opportunity. >> >> Wouter PA3WEG >> FUNcube team >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Wouter Weggelaar >> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I would like to inform you all that tomorrow, Monday 4th of may, there is >>> a fairly high chance we will be allowed to test the AMSAT-NL transponder >>> for one full orbit. >>> >>> Details will be made available on short notice, but we are aiming for an >>> activation starting at ~08:30 UTC and lasting until ~10:10 UTC. >>> >>> The aim is to characterize the power budget on board EO-79. So we >>> encourage the usage of this new transponder. Please also report the QSOs >>> and signal reports to pa3weg at amsat.org >>> >>> Wouter PA3WEG >>> AMSAT-NL >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL From GW1FKY at aol.com Mon May 4 08:49:43 2015 From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 04:49:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report Message-ID: <1a18ab.77ad12ff.42788ca6@aol.com> Hi all, Report on EO-73 transponder operation 0830 hrs UTC 4/515 ( My location Wales -UK -IO81EM. At 0833 hrs UTC, I heard Peter 2E0SQL calling CQ on downlink frequency 145.964 Mhz. He was 5/9 but I could also hear some other burst of noise? - Due to my terrain and obstructions I could not get access into the satellite but will try again on the next pass which is a much higher elevation. Congratulation to the team and to Peter of course for his success. Ken Eaton GW1FKY From alancresswell at xtra.co.nz Mon May 4 10:14:06 2015 From: alancresswell at xtra.co.nz (alancresswell at xtra.co.nz) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:14:06 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report In-Reply-To: <1a18ab.77ad12ff.42788ca6@aol.com> References: <1a18ab.77ad12ff.42788ca6@aol.com> Message-ID: <9A41ADD392894093B4B25C8DAC8824CF@SATELLITE2> Worked Bill, ZL2AYZ at 0915 UTC with EO-79 in full eclipse. Signals quite variable and never particularly strong and at times somewhat marginal copy. We repeated the exercise on AO-73 at 0953 UTC with strong to very strong and consistent signals although it should be noted that the EO-79 pass was at 12 deg. elevation while the AO-73 pass was at 35 deg. elevation. Thanks for the opportunity to try a new one. Alan ZL2BX -----Original Message----- From: GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 8:49 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report Hi all, Report on EO-73 transponder operation 0830 hrs UTC 4/515 ( My location Wales -UK -IO81EM. At 0833 hrs UTC, I heard Peter 2E0SQL calling CQ on downlink frequency 145.964 Mhz. He was 5/9 but I could also hear some other burst of noise? - Due to my terrain and obstructions I could not get access into the satellite but will try again on the next pass which is a much higher elevation. Congratulation to the team and to Peter of course for his success. Ken Eaton GW1FKY _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From GW1FKY at aol.com Mon May 4 10:21:17 2015 From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:21:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Further Report EO-79 Message-ID: Hi , Further report EO-79 from here in Wales 1000 hrs pass ( aprox) . I hear Peter ( 2E0SQL ) and Mike ( G0MJW ) both 5/9 but again with noise. As they checked out with one another at 1005 hrs zulu - Appeared to lose any activity, I was not expecting to shut down on the transponder until 1010 GMT as per schedule. Not able to get into the transponder for some reason. My gear is OK and I am accessing AO-7 and FO-29. Strange also using the same transponder frequencies as AO-73 ?? Well done once again to those involved. Ken GW1FKY From peter at m3php.com Mon May 4 10:21:18 2015 From: peter at m3php.com (Peter Goodhall) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 11:21:18 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report In-Reply-To: <9A41ADD392894093B4B25C8DAC8824CF@SATELLITE2> References: <1a18ab.77ad12ff.42788ca6@aol.com> <9A41ADD392894093B4B25C8DAC8824CF@SATELLITE2> Message-ID: On the 10:00 UTC pass again worked Mike G0MJW who at 20 degrees was S5 then just before it was commanded off at 30 degrees was S9 without any preamps using Wimo X-Quads. Fading didn't seem too bad this pass however we both noticed that there was a big frequency error 5kHz compared to earlier where it wasn't so bad. 73, Peter, 2E0SQL On 4 May 2015 at 11:14, wrote: > Worked Bill, ZL2AYZ at 0915 UTC with EO-79 in full eclipse. Signals quite > variable and never particularly strong and at times somewhat marginal copy. > We repeated the exercise on AO-73 at 0953 UTC with strong to very strong and > consistent signals although it should be noted that the EO-79 pass was at 12 > deg. elevation while the AO-73 pass was at 35 deg. elevation. > Thanks for the opportunity to try a new one. > > Alan > ZL2BX > > -----Original Message----- From: GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB > Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 8:49 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report > > > Hi all, > Report on EO-73 transponder operation 0830 hrs UTC 4/515 ( My location > Wales -UK -IO81EM. > At 0833 hrs UTC, I heard Peter 2E0SQL calling CQ on downlink frequency > 145.964 Mhz. > He was 5/9 but I could also hear some other burst of noise? - Due to my > terrain and obstructions I could not get access into the satellite but will > try again on the next pass which is a much higher elevation. > Congratulation to the team and to Peter of course for his success. > Ken Eaton > GW1FKY > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL From pa3weg at amsat.org Mon May 4 10:24:42 2015 From: pa3weg at amsat.org (wouter weggelaar) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 12:24:42 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Further Report EO-79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ken, Thanks for your report. We believe the signal fading is higher on this satellite as its spin is quite slow and it has a monopole antenna. So maybe you have observed the antenna null. We can not be quite sure just yet. 73 Wouter On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:21 PM, wrote: > Hi , > Further report EO-79 from here in Wales 1000 hrs pass ( aprox) . > I hear Peter ( 2E0SQL ) and Mike ( G0MJW ) both 5/9 but again with noise. > As they checked out with one another at 1005 hrs zulu - Appeared to lose > any activity, I was not expecting to shut down on the transponder until > 1010 GMT as per schedule. > Not able to get into the transponder for some reason. My gear is OK and I > am accessing AO-7 and FO-29. > Strange also using the same transponder frequencies as AO-73 ?? > Well done once again to those involved. > Ken > GW1FKY > > From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon May 4 10:41:58 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 05:41:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report In-Reply-To: References: <1a18ab.77ad12ff.42788ca6@aol.com> <9A41ADD392894093B4B25C8DAC8824CF@SATELLITE2> Message-ID: <000501d08656$f55c4a00$e014de00$@GMAIL.COM> Hi Pete, >> there was a big frequency error 5kHz compared to earlier where it Was that compared to the pre-launch values? The frequencies which Wouter gave were somewhat different. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: <> Worked Bill, ZL2AYZ at 0915 UTC with EO-79 in full eclipse. Signals quite <> variable and never particularly strong and at times somewhat marginal copy. <> We repeated the exercise on AO-73 at 0953 UTC with strong to very strong and <> consistent signals although it should be noted that the EO-79 pass was at 12 <> deg. elevation while the AO-73 pass was at 35 deg. elevation. <> Thanks for the opportunity to try a new one. <> <> Alan <> ZL2BX <> <> -----Original Message----- From: GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB <> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 8:49 AM <> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <> Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report <> <> <> Hi all, <> Report on EO-73 transponder operation 0830 hrs UTC 4/515 ( My location <> Wales -UK -IO81EM. <> At 0833 hrs UTC, I heard Peter 2E0SQL calling CQ on downlink frequency <> 145.964 Mhz. <> He was 5/9 but I could also hear some other burst of noise? - Due to my <> terrain and obstructions I could not get access into the satellite but will <> try again on the next pass which is a much higher elevation. <> Congratulation to the team and to Peter of course for his success. <> Ken Eaton <> GW1FKY <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < < < <-- References: <1a18ab.77ad12ff.42788ca6@aol.com> <9A41ADD392894093B4B25C8DAC8824CF@SATELLITE2> <000501d08656$f55c4a00$e014de00$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: Yes Alan, thats probably why was using pre-launch freqs. On 4 May 2015 at 11:41, Alan wrote: > Hi Pete, > >>> there was a big frequency error 5kHz compared to earlier where it > > Was that compared to the pre-launch values? The frequencies which Wouter gave were somewhat > different. > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > < > < > < > <73, > < > < > wrote: > <> Worked Bill, ZL2AYZ at 0915 UTC with EO-79 in full eclipse. Signals quite > <> variable and never particularly strong and at times somewhat marginal copy. > <> We repeated the exercise on AO-73 at 0953 UTC with strong to very strong and > <> consistent signals although it should be noted that the EO-79 pass was at 12 > <> deg. elevation while the AO-73 pass was at 35 deg. elevation. > <> Thanks for the opportunity to try a new one. > <> > <> Alan > <> ZL2BX > <> > <> -----Original Message----- From: GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB > <> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 8:49 AM > <> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > <> Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report > <> > <> > <> Hi all, > <> Report on EO-73 transponder operation 0830 hrs UTC 4/515 ( My location > <> Wales -UK -IO81EM. > <> At 0833 hrs UTC, I heard Peter 2E0SQL calling CQ on downlink frequency > <> 145.964 Mhz. > <> He was 5/9 but I could also hear some other burst of noise? - Due to my > <> terrain and obstructions I could not get access into the satellite but will > <> try again on the next pass which is a much higher elevation. > <> Congratulation to the team and to Peter of course for his success. > <> Ken Eaton > <> GW1FKY > <> _______________________________________________ > <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > < > < > < > <-- > <_______________________________________________ > -- Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Mon May 4 12:27:06 2015 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 07:27:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/VE2 - FN35 & FN26 Message-ID: I'll be visiting Montreal, QC, Canada again in a couple of weeks. Several individuals have asked me about operating satellites from grid FN26. With those requests in mind, I will travel to FN26 for two orbits of FO-29. I do not know the specific passes at this time. There are a few others who are looking to have FN35 confirmed. I will post about those operations on Twitter @w5pfg shortly before and during the US Memorial Day Weekend Holiday. Please email me off-BB if you are interested in the FN26 operation. Thank you, 73 Clayton W5PFG From g0mrf at aol.com Mon May 4 15:21:50 2015 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 11:21:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report In-Reply-To: <9A41ADD392894093B4B25C8DAC8824CF@SATELLITE2> Message-ID: <14d1f84dc0c-33c6-1985b@webprd-m56.mail.aol.com> Hi Alan / group. Similar results here monitoring the passband. 08:30 start, heard Peter and Mike easily 55 / 57 but the elevation was only 13 ish degrees and range was never closer than around 1750km. I could hear two distinct noise peaks from the transponder at apx 145.967 and 145.952 but I could also hear transponder noise across the passband. The transponder background noise increased whenever the EO-79 beacon was transmitting on 145.815, but that did not suppress the transponder QSOs. Not sure about the sats attitude, but I think the signal level was slightly better as the satellite travelled away from me to the North. At the end of the orbit 90 mins later, when it approached London from the south, the satellite switched off at 35 degrees elevation - range 1000km -the signals from Mike G0MJW and Peter 2E0SQL were strong and the quality was good. Overall a very usable transponder but my first impression is it could be a little weaker than AO-73. No Idea why that maybe but I note that AO-73 is a 1U with a dipole, while EO-79 has a monopole working against a 20cm long structure. If that is a factor, we'll know more when Fox-1 is launched. Thanks David -----Original Message----- From: alancresswell To: amsat-bb Sent: Mon, 4 May 2015 11:14 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report Worked Bill, ZL2AYZ at 0915 UTC with EO-79 in full eclipse. Signals quite variable and never particularly strong and at times somewhat marginal copy. We repeated the exercise on AO-73 at 0953 UTC with strong to very strong and consistent signals although it should be noted that the EO-79 pass was at 12 deg. elevation while the AO-73 pass was at 35 deg. elevation. Thanks for the opportunity to try a new one. Alan ZL2BX -----Original Message----- From: GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 8:49 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Report Hi all, Report on EO-73 transponder operation 0830 hrs UTC 4/515 ( My location Wales -UK -IO81EM. At 0833 hrs UTC, I heard Peter 2E0SQL calling CQ on downlink frequency 145.964 Mhz. He was 5/9 but I could also hear some other burst of noise? - Due to my terrain and obstructions I could not get access into the satellite but will try again on the next pass which is a much higher elevation. Congratulation to the team and to Peter of course for his success. Ken Eaton GW1FKY _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon May 4 17:08:02 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:08:02 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cochise A.R.A. hamfest on 2 May 2015 - report Message-ID: Hi! On Saturday, 2 May 2015, I had an AMSAT table at the Cochise Amateur Radio Association's annual hamfest in Sierra Vista, Arizona. This hamfest is held at the club's property on the edge of Sierra Vista, where there are a couple of buildings, some towers, and an empty lot that was divided between parking and space for sellers to display their equipment. In past years, the lot had lots of empty space. This year, it was almost full. A good turnout for the half-day event. During the morning, I had satellite demonstrations on SO-50, AO-73, and the packet/APRS digipeater on the ISS. There were good crowds for the passes I worked - three on SO-50, two on AO-73, and one ISS pass. It is always nice to have AO-73 available for daytime passes on the weekends, since that helped to show the differences between working it and FM satellites - in particular, equipment and operating techniques. Thanks to everyone who called and worked WD9EWK during those passes. For the ISS, I was able to complete two quick QSOs using APRS messages from my TH-D72A HT with KO6TZ in southern California and N7NEV near Phoenix. I'm finding that there are some who actually are at their keyboards/radios for ISS passes, beyond the automatic beacons that seem to dominate the passes. I wasn't the only satellite operator at the hamfest. Leo W7JPI had a table set up to sell some old gear. John K8YSE was also at the hamfest, and he worked WD9EWK from each of his stations (K8YSE in Ohio/EN91, K8YSE in Arizona/DM43) using a laptop and a WiFi hotspot not far from my table. It was fun - and funny - to point him out to the crowd ("Did you hear K8YSE/7 and K8YSE on that pass? He's sitting over there, using each of his stations remotely."). Talking about the recent announcements for the transponders on all 5 Fox-1 satellites, plus the plans for a geosynchronous payload, made for great conversation throughout the morning. With Fox-1A's launch approaching, the Fox-1A flyer was a popular item at my table. My "job" is much easier with all of these satellite projects to talk about. :-) Thanks to Kurt Edelman KF7PDV and the Cochise Amateur Radio Association for their hospitality. I have been making the trip to Sierra Vista and hosting an AMSAT table at this hamfest since 2008, and it is nice to see the hams in that part of Arizona every year. Thanks also to John K8YSE for using both of his stations to work me during that SO-50 pass. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From w1pa at hotmail.com Mon May 4 17:52:06 2015 From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill ACITO, W1PA) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 13:52:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What preamp to use for SO-50 and Arrow II antenna? Message-ID: Late, but... I have an ARR (Advanced Receiver Research) 432 RF-switched pre-amp hanging from the UHF side of my Arrow with its own 12V NiMH pack. I went "switched" in case I do something stupid. I wear a mic-headset (YH2) and run the FT-530 in my right hand, and hold the Arrow in my left. I've rigged up patch cables that run HT audio (thru a 60db pad) into one side of my stereo digital recorder, and ambient audio (from a mic) into the other so I can isolate what I said and what I heard. Some of my log recordings are a great argument for full-duplex; e.g. I can hear clearly and immediately if a letter got lost and I need to repeat my grid a second time --- especially running 5W. The FT530 does not de-sense and I can clearly hear my own downlink in the headset. With the pre-amp, clean sky and polarization match, SO-50 is full scale into the FT-530 RX. Where it helps is when I have trees and a less than optimal horizon (pretty common in New England). I ran the same on AO-51 and AO-27 and could copy right down to the horizon, easily working into Europe. Bill W1PA From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon May 4 19:29:42 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 12:29:42 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] My New Mexico road trip, Saturday (2 May) afternoon/evening - report Message-ID: Hi! After the Cochise Amateur Radio Association's hamfest wrapped up on Saturday (2 May) morning, I made a stop for lunch and then proceeded on my plan to work some passes from New Mexico. I had asked on Twitter for possible destinations on my post-hamfest drive, and I had just visited two grid boundaries in southeastern Arizona (DM51/DM52, DM52/DM53) in late March after a hamfest in Tucson. One request was made - New Mexico. So I went there... After stopping for lunch, it took about an hour and a half to make the drive just over the Arizona/New Mexico state line. I stopped at the small "town" of Road Forks, New Mexico. The name of the town says it all - it is where the old US-80 highway makes a turn to the south, away from what is now I-10. Not much is here - a small motel with restaurant, and a fireworks shop. I parked at an abandoned truck stop across the road from those businesses, which was in grid DM52mf. I worked two passes from there - FO-29 at 2115 UTC, and AO-7 at 2135 UTC. I worked 9 stations on the FO-29 pass, but was shut out of the AO-7 pass. I could hear some loud and strong CW signals through AO-7, and could occasionally hear my own 5W CW and SSB signals, but no contacts. After those two passes, I got back on I-10 and drove another 63 miles (just over 100km) in the next 50 minutes to reach a truck stop west of Deming at exit 68. This truck stop is a few hundred yards/meters east of 108 degrees West longitude, also known as the DM52xf/DM62af grid boundary. I parked along the side of the south frontage road along I-10, and worked a few passes from here before sunset (and a bad thunderstorm). I started on FO-29 at 2300 UTC. This was another good pass, and I logged 9 QSOs with stations from coast to (almost) coast. The AO-7 pass that came by a few minutes later was also good for me at this location. Unfortunately, after a minute or two of some strong CW, the mode B downlink shut off. Just as the AO-7 downlink shut off, I was visited by a sheriff's deputy. The deputy was curious about what I was doing with radios on the roof of my car, waving an antenna skyward. I explained what I was doing, and the deputy told me that this area was a common route for people after illegally crossing the US/Mexico border south of that area. I told the deputy I had no plans on staying out here into the night, and that satisfied him. He left, and I still didn't hear AO-7 in the last couple of minutes of that pass. There was an ISS pass coming over just before 0000 UTC, so I set up my Kenwood TH-D72A to use that. I saw a few call signs coming through, and was able to make one QSO. I was able to exchange APRS messages with Brad KG7NXH in the Phoenix area. This was a bonus, although I am finding I can make a QSO or two on many ISS passes with just my TH-D72A lately. One of these days, I will set up my laptop or one of my tablets so I can use a larger keyboard and screen for those passes. Until then, I'll have fun making packet QSOs with just the HT and antenna. After the ISS made its pass, I planned on working two SO-50 passes from here. The first of the passes, around 0045 UTC, went across the northern and eastern sky, covering the continental USA. I logged 8 QSOs on this pass, including one with KG7NXH who I worked on the earlier ISS pass. After that, the later SO-50 pass around 0225 UTC that covered the west coast added 3 more QSOs. As this later pass started, a strong wind and rain started. After logging the last QSO on that pass, I quickly put my gear in the back seat of my car, and drove back to the truck stop. I did a better job of stowing my gear, with the cover over the gas pumps shielding me from the rain. Including a stop for fuel and a late dinner, it took about 4 hours to drive home from Deming. I was "treated" to a thunderstorm complete with strong winds and rain for the first 30 minutes of the drive. I wish I had a video camera running for this part of my drive, because the light show was awesome. By the time I reached the Arizona state line, the rain and strong winds stopped. Except for some road construction on I-10 as I reached the edge of the Phoenix area, I was able to set the cruise control and make good time on the drive home. I have uploaded all of my QSOs from Saturday - at the hamfest, and from these two locations in New Mexico - to Logbook of the World. If you worked me and would like to receive a QSL card, please e-mail me off-list with the QSO details. If you are in my log, I will gladly send a QSL card. No need to first send me a card and/or SASE. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Mon May 4 22:41:38 2015 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 17:41:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] EL84 Dry Tortugas Message-ID: W4T has been heard making contacts on SO-50 and FO-29 this afternoon from grid EL84. This is one of the rarer of the 488 grids needed in all of the lower 48 states. He should be there another few days. 73 Clayton W5PFG From wouterweg at gmail.com Tue May 5 09:34:50 2015 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 11:34:50 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Announcing EO-79 transponder testing for one full orbit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, Thank you for sending in your reports and observations. We are one step closer to comissioning this transponder. ISIS engineers are busy downloading Whole Orbit Data files of the activation, but will have to do this on top of their normal work. Preliminary analysis shows that the power budget is close to calculated but there is insufficient data at the moment to make conclusions. We can at this time not be sure when the next activation will be, and when permanent activation may be considered. If there is more information available, I will update the BB on this. >From the reports we can conclude that the current ADCS mode the satellite is in may provide some signal fading challenges. It also looks like the frequency is off-nominal. Lastly, we observe that the signal passband has a different shape than pre-launch. The transponder is definetely workable, but we would need more time to establish the frequency relation and passband shape. Thanks again, best 73s Wouter PA3WEG On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: > Transponder activated at 0830UTC for 95 minutes. > > Wouter PA3WEG > > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Wouter Weggelaar > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I can hereby confirm Tomorrows intended activation of the AMSAT-NL >> FUNcube-3 transponder on QB50p1 / EO-79. >> Date and time:Monday 4th of May, activation around 0830 UTC for one orbit. >> >> TLEs are in the normal repositories, COSPAR 2014-033-R, Object# 40025 >> >> We would like people to try the following frequencies if possible: >> DOWNLINK: 145.960 USB >> UPLINK: Tune to match downlink +/- 435.065 LSB >> The transponder is linear inverting, nominally 30kHz wide, and approx. >> 500mW output. >> >> Also, If you find the transponder busy on those frequencies, feel free to >> move around and use the entire transponder passband. >> The passband seems to have a "dip" in the middle which is bigger than >> expected, but we do welcome feedback about the usability. Also, please >> limit your uplink power, as it looks like this transponder is as sensitive >> as FUNcube-1. The spacecraft antenna is a monopole, so we would also be >> interested in signal fading reports. >> >> The comissioning of the transponder done to date is very limited, three >> activations for 5, 10 and 8 minutes respectively. So your reports are >> greatly appreciated. >> >> We do understand this is a very short notice, but hope that some of you >> will be able to participate. >> This was a take-it-or-leave-it opportunity offered by the ISIS engineers >> for our consideration, and we are again very grateful to ISIS and VKI to >> give us this opportunity. >> >> Wouter PA3WEG >> FUNcube team >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Wouter Weggelaar >> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I would like to inform you all that tomorrow, Monday 4th of may, there >>> is a fairly high chance we will be allowed to test the AMSAT-NL transponder >>> for one full orbit. >>> >>> Details will be made available on short notice, but we are aiming for an >>> activation starting at ~08:30 UTC and lasting until ~10:10 UTC. >>> >>> The aim is to characterize the power budget on board EO-79. So we >>> encourage the usage of this new transponder. Please also report the QSOs >>> and signal reports to pa3weg at amsat.org >>> >>> Wouter PA3WEG >>> AMSAT-NL >>> >> >> > From sford at arrl.org Tue May 5 13:09:45 2015 From: sford at arrl.org (Ford, Steve, WB8IMY) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 13:09:45 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Call for Papers In-Reply-To: <6BDF4F7F3613DC4E90A42F93921B47BD1749DA58@EXCHANGE.ARRLHQ.ORG> References: <6BDF4F7F3613DC4E90A42F93921B47BD1749DA58@EXCHANGE.ARRLHQ.ORG> Message-ID: <6BDF4F7F3613DC4E90A42F93921B47BD174D2363@EXCHANGE.ARRLHQ.ORG> Call For Papers: 2015 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference We're soliciting technical papers for presentation at the 34th Annual ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference, to be held October 9-11 in Chicago, Illinois. Papers will also be published in the Conference Proceedings. You do not have to attend the conference to have your paper included in the Proceedings. The submission deadline is August 17, 2015. E-mail your submission to Maty Weinberg at ARRL Headquarters at maty at arrl.org. Please to do not send zip files as these will be rejected by our e-mail server. From bruninga at usna.edu Tue May 5 20:00:55 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 16:00:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Psat, BRICKsat,USS Langley Launch Announcement Message-ID: Subj: Amateur Satellite Launch Notice: On (or about) 20 May 2014, the next US Naval Academy satellites and Brno University transponders will be launched on the AFSPC ULA Atlas-5 mission from the Cape into a 50 something degree orbit. We welcome radio amateurs worldwide to tune into the downlinks and either IGate packets into the global APRS-IS system or email to Bruninga at usna.edu. After launch, the next several orbits will be over USA and Europe. Operations via PSAT or PSK31 are not authorized until on-orbit checkout is complete (may take many,many days). Downlinks (one or more packets per minute): PSAT: 145.825 MHz 1200 baud AX.25 APRS ? http://aprs.org/psat.html BRICsat: 435.975 MHz 9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry USS Langley: 435.475 MHz 9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry PSK31: 435.350 MHz FM PSK31 telemetry Further info will be posted when available on the PSAT page above. Enjoy, Bob Bruninga, WB4APR - USNA Jin Kang, KB3UKS ? USNA Mirek Kasal, OK2AQ - Brno University Tomas Urbanec, OK2PNQ - Brno University Petr Vagner, OK2CPV - Brno University From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed May 6 05:44:55 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 01:44:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbitron Prediction Output - More than three lines? Message-ID: You can select Brief or 3 lines (AOS, MET, LOS) but what I would like is a line for every minute or two during the pass, maybe selectable. Also, can I get directions instead of AZM? I haven't gotten used to that yet. All this would be very helpful to me instead of having to bring my laptop, which will be hard to see outside anyway. Something I can just print out, and look at my watch to know where it is, and where to point, would be more convenient, I think. PS, I got into SO-50 this morning and this evening, meaning I could hear myself clearly on the downlink. someone in a Delta grid square came back to me this morning, but I didn't have the bird well enough to receive very well and had to apologize for that. This evening I heard myself multiple times but everyone was trying to work W4T. I got a good audio recording of the evening pass too. If someone wants it, let me know. My next attempt at SO-50 will be the Thursday morning pass and the evening pass too perhaps if I don't get anything in the morning. I must say, working this bird is very hard with such a low power signal. It is still very fun, but I am definitely thinking about a preamp! Hah! 73, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 From kf5yxv at gmail.com Wed May 6 14:51:19 2015 From: kf5yxv at gmail.com (Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 09:51:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably FO-29 world distance record; QSO between US and UK Message-ID: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> Hello to all I am pleased to report that Peter G4DOL and I had another extreme QSO on FO-29. It is my furthest contact on the birds! Back on October 2013, Peter and I had a very nice contact between EL92sd, Cienfuegos, Cuba and IO80so, Weymouth area, UK. It was a 7286 km contact and probably the first contact between UK and Cuba on FO-29! Peter and I desired to try again on FO-29, this time between EM21hs, Texas, US and his habitual spot in IO80so. We were able to complete a very nice CW contact on the 92319 orbit of FO-29. Peter had just 0.1 degree as maxim elevation while I had 0.8 during the 80 seconds mutual window. As before, Peter did all the hard work by driving until his habitual spot at a cliff-top and setting up his "portable satellite station" (19 elements Yagi for 435MHz and 10 elements Yagi for 2m both with horizontal polarization). FO-29 was sounding really good on these orbits. It was a solid 559 satellite contact, we were very impressed. We made the calculations using our 10 digit grid squares at http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html The distance between the stations was 7537.799 km (4683.77 mi). To my knowledge, the longest distance archived on FO-29 until now had been 7,533.685 km between Frank, K4FEG and Erich, DK1TB. http://www.qrz.com/db/k4feg It appears that an even longer distance is achievable. It has been reported that FO-29 has a "theoretical maximum range" of 7502 km, but I guess that at least 7600km is doable. We will try to break our own record! This contact was possible thanks to the great feature implemented on SatPC32 V12.8b. There is an option of seeing the frequency you are at the satellite receiver at any time during a pass. It allows the operators to tune the right frequencies and attempt a contact without having to search for each other. We have some pictures, recording and GPS screen shoots. I will try to post everything online. I will be happy to email everything, also. Thanks very much to Peter for his persistence, effort and all the fun! 73! Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF From bruninga at usna.edu Wed May 6 15:46:07 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 11:46:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Psat, BRICKsat, USS Langley Launch Announcement (correction) Message-ID: <199a75361c94badd04e53c1f2b298230@mail.gmail.com> Corrections (year and Freqs): Subj: Amateur Satellite Launch Notice: On (or about) 20 May 2015, the next US Naval Academy satellites and Brno University transponders will be launched on the AFSPC ULA Atlas-5 mission from the Cape into a 50 something degree orbit. We welcome radio amateurs worldwide to tune into the downlinks and either IGate packets into the global APRS-IS system or email to Bruninga at usna.edu. After launch, the next several orbits will be over USA and Europe. Operations via PSAT or PSK31 are not authorized until on-orbit checkout is complete (may take many,many days). Downlinks (one or more packets per minute): PSAT: 145.825 MHz 1200 baud AX.25 APRS ? http://aprs.org/psat.html BRICsat: 437.975 MHz 9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry USS Langley: 437.475 MHz 9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry PSK31: 435.350 MHz FM PSK31 telemetry Further info will be posted when available on the PSAT page above. Enjoy, Bob Bruninga, WB4APR - USNA Jin Kang, KB3UKS ? USNA Mirek Kasal, OK2AQ - Brno University Tomas Urbanec, OK2PNQ - Brno University Petr Vagner, OK2CPV - Brno University From fabianomoser at gmail.com Wed May 6 17:18:57 2015 From: fabianomoser at gmail.com (Fabiano Moser) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 18:18:57 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably FO-29 world distance record; QSO between US and UK In-Reply-To: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> References: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Greetings to both! 73 CT7ABD Fabiano Moser. Enviado do meu iPhone > On 06 May 2015, at 15:51, Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF wrote: > > Hello to all > > I am pleased to report that Peter G4DOL and I had another extreme QSO on > FO-29. It is my furthest contact on the birds! > > Back on October 2013, Peter and I had a very nice contact between EL92sd, > Cienfuegos, Cuba and IO80so, Weymouth area, UK. It was a 7286 km contact and > probably the first contact between UK and Cuba on FO-29! > > Peter and I desired to try again on FO-29, this time between EM21hs, Texas, > US and his habitual spot in IO80so. We were able to complete a very nice CW > contact on the 92319 orbit of FO-29. Peter had just 0.1 degree as maxim > elevation while I had 0.8 during the 80 seconds mutual window. As before, > Peter did all the hard work by driving until his habitual spot at a > cliff-top and setting up his "portable satellite station" (19 elements > Yagi for 435MHz and 10 elements Yagi for 2m both with horizontal > polarization). FO-29 was sounding really good on these orbits. It was a > solid 559 satellite contact, we were very impressed. > > We made the calculations using our 10 digit grid squares at > http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html The distance between the stations was > 7537.799 km (4683.77 mi). To my knowledge, the longest distance archived on > FO-29 until now had been 7,533.685 km between Frank, K4FEG and Erich, DK1TB. > http://www.qrz.com/db/k4feg It appears that an even longer distance is > achievable. It has been reported that FO-29 has a "theoretical maximum > range" of 7502 km, but I guess that at least 7600km is doable. We will try > to break our own record! > > This contact was possible thanks to the great feature implemented on SatPC32 > V12.8b. There is an option of seeing the frequency you are at the satellite > receiver at any time during a pass. It allows the operators to tune the > right frequencies and attempt a contact without having to search for each > other. > > We have some pictures, recording and GPS screen shoots. I will try to post > everything online. I will be happy to email everything, also. > > Thanks very much to Peter for his persistence, effort and all the fun! > > 73! > > Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Wed May 6 17:34:33 2015 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 13:34:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?iso-8859-1?q?Upcoming_ARISS_contact_with_Istituto_Te?= =?iso-8859-1?q?cnico_Industriale_Statale_=22Enrico_Fermi=22=2C_Luc?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ca=2C__Italy_and_Studi_di_Firenze_-_Dipartimento_di?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_Fisica_e__Astronomia=2C_Sesto_Fiorentino=2C_Italy?= Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Istituto Tecnico Industriale Statale "Enrico Fermi", Lucca, Italy, direct via IQ5LU and Studi di Firenze - Dipartimento di Fisica e Astronomia, Sesto Fiorentino, Italy on 09 May. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 09:52 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The event will be direct between the ISS using call sign IR0ISS and ground stations IQ5PO (who will initiate the contact) and IQ5LU (who will end the contact). The contact should be audible over Italy and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in Italian. Presentation Istituto Tecnico Industriale Statale "Enrico Fermi": State Technical Industrial Institute is named to Enrico Fermi and is located in Lucca, Northern Tuscany. 5 years courses in Mechanics, Electrotechnology, Electronics, Information and Communication Technology with several laboratories. About 700 students aged 15-19. They had an Amateur Radio Club with the callsign IK5YOI (license expired). Presentation Universit? degli Studi di Firenze - Dipartimento di Fisica e Astronomia: In the Scientific Campus ("Polo Scientifico") of the University of Florence activities for secondary school's students are organized by OpenLab. OpenLab, which has been active since 2002, is the service of education and communication of the University of Florence and it is dedicated to science popularization in different areas (physics, chemistry, biology .). OpenLab includes interactive laboratories, conferences, stages, visits to research laboratories. For Physics we have more than 1000 students every year (primary and secondary school). Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: I = Istituto Tecnico Industriale Statale "Enrico Fermi" U = Universit? degli Studi di Firenze 1U. Quali sensazioni si provano durante la fase di lancio? 2I. Quale sistema operativo ? utilizzato sui computer della ISS? Perch? questa scelta? 3U. Dopo quanto tempo si ? abituata all' assenza di gravit?? 4I. Ci sono mai state collisioni con detriti orbitali? 5U. Come reagiscono le piante alla vita sulla stazione? Come vengono curate? 6I. Quando hai deciso di fare l'astronauta? Perch?? 7U. In che modo ti curi quando ti ammali? 8I. in cosa consiste la manutenzione della stazione? 9U. Sulla Stazione Spaziale Internazionale sono presenti dispositivi che sfruttano le correzioni relativistiche dello spazio e del tempo, simili ai nostri GPS? 10I. quando dormi sogni? 11U. Qual ? stato il momento pi? difficile o la paura pi? grande affrontata durante l'addestramento? 12I. E' difficile per una donna diventare astronauta? 13U. Sulla ISS ci sono correnti parassite indotte dalle variazioni del campo magnetico terrestre sulla stazione stessa? 14I. Chi e che cosa ti manca di pi? della tua vita quotidiana? 15U. Che tipo di esperimenti fate? Qual ? il loro fine? 16I. Quali studi ti hanno condotto alla carriera di astronauta? 17U. Come avviene l'ossigenazione della stazione spaziale? 18I: Da astronauta, pensi ci possano essere forme di vita extraterrestri? 19U. Qual ? la sua paura pi? grande sull' ISS? 20I. cosa comporta dal punto di vista fisico e mentale vivere sulla ISS? 21U. In cosa consiste il vostro lavoro? Qual ? la tua funzione all'interno della stazione spaziale? 22I. Qual ? la tua giornata tipo come astronauta? 23U. Cosa si prova a vedere la terra, l'alba, il tramonto e l'universo dallo spazio? 24I. Come si vedono i pianeti del sistema solare dalla ISS? 25U. Credi che sia giusto spendere tanti soldi per le missioni spaziali nonostante tutte le situazioni di povert? presenti sul nostro pianeta? 26I. Quali effetti ha l'assenza di forza di gravit? sul corpo umano? Translation: 1) How do you feel during the launch? 2) Which operating system is used on the computers of the iss? Why this choice? 3) How soon you got used to the absence of gravity? 4) Have collisions with orbital debris ever happened? 5) How plants react to the station life conditions? How are they cared? 6) When did you decide to be an astronaut? Why? 7) How do you take care of yourself when you get sick? 8) How is made the maintenance of the station? 9) Are there, on the ISS, devices that use the relativistic corrections of space and time, like our GPS devices do? 10) when sleeping, do you dream? 11) Which was the hardest time or the biggest fear faced during training? 12) Is it difficult for a woman to be an astronaut? 13) Are there, on the ISS, eddy currents induced by changes in the Earth's magnetic field on the station itself? 14) Who and what do you miss more about your daily life? 15) What kind of experiments are you doing? What is their purpose? 16) Which schools did you attend to become an astronaut? 17) How is carried out the oxygenation of the space station? 18) As an astronaut, do you think extraterrestrial life forms exist? 19) What is your deepest fear on the ISS? 20) What entails in terms of physical and mental life on the ISS ? 21) In what consists the crew job? What is your role inside the space station? 22) How is your typical day as an astronaut? 23) How it feels to see the earth, sunrise, sunset and the universe from space? 24) How do you see our solar system's planets from the ISS? 25) Do you think it is right to spend so much money for space missions despite all situations of poverty on our planet? 26) Which effects has the absence of gravity on human body? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Sign up for the SAREX maillist at http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD ARISS is an international educational outreach program partnering the volunteer support and leadership from AMSAT and IARU societies around the world with the ISS space agencies partners: NASA, Russian Space Agency, ESA, CNES, JAXA, and CSA. ARISS offers an opportunity for students to experience the excitement of Amateur Radio by talking directly with crewmembers on-board the International Space Station. Teachers, parents and communities see, first hand, how Amateur Radio and crewmembers on ISS can energize youngsters' interest in science, technology, and learning. Further information on the ARISS program is available on the website http://www.ariss.org/ Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From k8bl at ameritech.net Wed May 6 18:17:11 2015 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 18:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably FO-29 world distance record; QSO between US and UK In-Reply-To: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> References: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10681557.1652993.1430936231864.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hector, Felicidades !! Excelente contacto y reporte !!! 73, Bob K8BL From: Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Cc: 'Peter Atkins' Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 10:51 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably FO-29 world distance record; QSO between US and UK Hello to all I am pleased to report that Peter G4DOL and I had another extreme QSO on FO-29.? It is my furthest contact on the birds! Back on October 2013, Peter and I had a very nice contact between EL92sd, Cienfuegos, Cuba and IO80so, Weymouth area, UK. It was a 7286 km contact and probably the first contact between UK and Cuba on FO-29! Peter and I desired to try again on FO-29, this time between EM21hs, Texas, US and his habitual spot in? IO80so. We were able to complete a very nice CW contact on the 92319 orbit of FO-29. Peter had just 0.1 degree as maxim elevation while I had 0.8 during the 80 seconds mutual window.? As before, Peter did all the hard work by driving until his habitual spot at a cliff-top and? setting up his "portable satellite station"? (19 elements Yagi for 435MHz and 10 elements Yagi for 2m both with? horizontal polarization). FO-29 was sounding really good on these orbits. It was a solid 559 satellite contact, we were very impressed. We made the calculations using our 10 digit grid squares at http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html The distance between the stations was 7537.799 km (4683.77 mi). To my knowledge,? the longest distance archived on FO-29 until now had been 7,533.685 km between Frank, K4FEG and Erich, DK1TB. http://www.qrz.com/db/k4feg It appears that an even longer distance is achievable. It has been reported that FO-29 has a "theoretical maximum range" of 7502 km, but I guess that at least 7600km is doable. We will try to break our own record! This contact was possible thanks to the great feature implemented on SatPC32 V12.8b. There is an option of seeing the frequency you are at the satellite receiver at any time during a pass. It allows the operators to tune the right frequencies and attempt a contact without having to search for each other. We have some pictures, recording and GPS screen shoots. I will try to post everything online. I will be happy to email everything, also. Thanks very much to Peter for his persistence, effort and all the fun! 73! Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w5iu at swbell.net Thu May 7 19:22:17 2015 From: w5iu at swbell.net (Keith Pugh) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 14:22:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Demonstration Passes for Dayton Hamvention Message-ID: <000e01d088fb$22fa6b30$68ef4190$@swbell.net> An Amateur Radio Satellite Demonstration Station will again be active at Dayton Hamvention this year on 15-17 May. I have included the planned schedule of passes below. Times are in UTC - you can convert it to your own time zone. I have also included this as a text file in case there are formatting problems. We plan to work as many of these passes as possible. Our station is outdoors so weather can give us problems and we only have a limited number of operators so - we will work as many as possible. I might also note that we do have obstructions due to vehicles in the parking lot and parts of the Hara Arena buildings from about 300 deg. through North and on around to about 70 deg. The plan only includes passes with peak elevations above 10 deg. Lower elevations of any of the passes may be obstructed - be patient. 73 - Keith, W5IU AMSAT DAYTON HAMVENTION DEMOS - 2015 TZ = UTC N 39.820328 W 84.255224 ELEV. 296 M MIN PEAK ELEV. = 10 DEG GRID = EM79ut * = Listen Only Pass - Telemetry, Doppler, Ant. Perf, etc. WinAos QTH: -84.3/39.8 T#: 13648 Sat.: 7 [Standard] ---------------------------------------------------------- Day Objects AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl AZ ---------------------------------------------------------- 15.05.2015 ISS 12:15 12:22 07 11 308 - 056 15.05.2015 AO-07 12:41 12:55 14 11 359 - 271 15.05.2015 SO-50 13:31 13:40 09 10 280 - 018 15.05.2015 ISS 13:52 14:00 08 15 319 - 084 15.05.2015 HO-68 * 14:01 14:20 19 52 020 - 182 15.05.2015 AO-73 14:27 14:36 09 13 039 - 147 15.05.2015 ISS 15:28 15:37 09 66 309 - 123 15.05.2015 HO-68 * 15:50 16:07 17 30 003 - 230 15.05.2015 MO-76 * 15:58 16:08 10 32 026 - 174 15.05.2015 AO-73 16:02 16:14 12 54 007 - 205 15.05.2015 ISS 17:05 17:12 07 12 283 - 174 15.05.2015 MO-76 * 17:33 17:42 09 17 349 - 229 15.05.2015 AO-07 18:05 18:19 14 10 084 - 357 15.05.2015 SO-50 18:39 18:51 12 17 340 - 104 15.05.2015 FO-29 19:52 20:09 17 41 141 - 355 15.05.2015 AO-07 19:53 20:12 19 46 137 - 349 15.05.2015 SO-50 20:20 20:33 13 77 326 - 153 16.05.2015 SO-50 12:14 12:26 12 26 245 - 024 16.05.2015 ISS 12:58 13:06 08 13 312 - 071 16.05.2015 HO-68 * 13:45 14:03 18 40 024 - 175 16.05.2015 ISS 14:35 14:44 09 37 313 - 110 16.05.2015 AO-73 14:46 14:57 11 21 028 - 161 16.05.2015 HO-68 * 15:33 15:50 17 39 005 - 223 16.05.2015 MO-76 * 15:54 16:04 10 29 027 - 172 16.05.2015 ISS 16:12 16:20 08 23 292 - 156 16.05.2015 AO-73 16:22 16:34 12 32 002 - 216 16.05.2015 MO-76 * 17:28 17:38 10 19 355 - 227 16.05.2015 AO-07 18:55 19:13 18 21 110 - 352 16.05.2015 FO-29 18:59 19:13 14 17 114 - 005 16.05.2015 SO-50 19:05 19:18 13 33 336 - 125 16.05.2015 FO-29 20:41 21:00 19 84 165 - 347 16.05.2015 AO-07 20:45 21:06 21 87 161 - 344 16.05.2015 SO-50 20:46 20:58 12 31 316 - 175 17.05.2015 ISS 12:06 12:13 07 11 313 - 062 17.05.2015 AO-07 12:34 12:49 15 12 360 - 266 17.05.2015 SO-50 12:41 12:52 11 13 266 - 021 17.05.2015 HO-68 * 13:28 13:46 18 30 027 - 168 17.05.2015 ISS 13:43 13:51 08 23 318 - 097 17.05.2015 AO-73 15:06 15:18 12 34 022 - 174 17.05.2015 HO-68 * 15:15 15:34 19 50 010 - 215 17.05.2015 ISS 15:19 15:28 09 46 302 - 142 17.05.2015 MO-76 * 15:49 16:00 11 26 025 - 170 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: DaytonF2015U.txt URL: From w0sat2 at gmail.com Thu May 7 19:37:25 2015 From: w0sat2 at gmail.com (Jerry Ehlers) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 14:37:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenpro rotors question Message-ID: Hi: I have a rotor motor for Azimuth that looks like a 5400B . The model number on it says 7501-002 When I went to Google it wouldn,t cross. It looks like a KR 400 or 600 control might work on it Is anyone familiar with this model or seen one ?????? This looks like the rotors I have used like the 800 and 1000 Yaesu and 5400B. Jerry w0sat From jim at coloradosatellite.com Thu May 7 22:26:35 2015 From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White) Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 16:26:35 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Montserrat expedition announcement Message-ID: <554BE69B.3090009@coloradosatellite.com> N0KV, W0ZA, W0ETT, and WD0E will be operating from Gingerbread Hill, St. Peters, Montserrat (VP2M) (grid square FK86) from June 10^th to June 19^th .Operation will be on 80-6 meters (SSB/CW/RTTY) with participation in the June VHF contest on 6 and 2 meters and some satellite operation by WD0E. The two primary radios will be Elecraft K3?s with 500 watt amplifiers.Antennas include a Mosley Classic 33 on 10/15/20, a folding hexbeam by Folding Antennas (Germany) on 20-10 meters, verticals on 30 and 40 meters, a dipole on 75-80 meters, and an M2 5 element 6 meter beam.We will run 500 watts on 6M SSB/CW and FSK441.A 6 meter beacon is planned and will be on 50.102 when the station is not manned, and receive will be active between beacon transmissions to listen for calls. The primary call sign for the operation will be VP2MKV, and VP2MTT will probably be used on 6 meters.Near 24 hour operation is planned.Logs will be uploaded to LOTW soon after the group returns to the US.Paper QSL?s via N0KV, direct or via the bureau.US addressees send SASE; addressees outside the US send SASE plus $2 US for return postage. Use of Club Log has not been finalized at this time.Additional information will be posted under VP2MKV on QRZ.com. Satellite operation: VP2MKV will operate FO-29 only on selected passes.We will attempt the long hops to the edges of coverage if the equipment performs well at low elevations and obstructions allow.We will attempt to post passes we plan to work 24 hours in advance on amsat-bb.The uplink frequency will be 145.925 and we will tune our downlink for stations calling. The location is 16.776924N 62.214474W in grid FK86vs.Equipment is an ICOM 910H and Arrow antenna.Uplink power will be about 20W.Stations are asked to work us only once on the satellite.If we respond with your call you are in the log. From kf5yxv at gmail.com Fri May 8 03:39:00 2015 From: kf5yxv at gmail.com (Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 22:39:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably FO-29 world distance record; QSO between US and UK ---follow-up Message-ID: <00a301d08940$85f93b40$91ebb1c0$@gmail.com> Hi to all Just a quick follow-up on my earlier message about my QSO with Peter, G4DOL on FO-29. I received an email from Frank, K4FEG; He let me know He misprinted the distance of his contact in his QRZ web page. The correct distance of his contact is 7,538.685 km. He already fixed it in his web page. My contact with Peter is 886 m down their mark. You can see a couple of pictures and listen to the recording at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/06/uk-texas-extreme-dx-contact/ 73! Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF -----Mensaje original----- De: Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF [mailto:kf5yxv at gmail.com] Enviado el: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:51 AM Para: 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' CC: 'Peter Atkins' Asunto: Probably FO-29 world distance record; QSO between US and UK Importancia: Alta Hello to all I am pleased to report that Peter G4DOL and I had another extreme QSO on FO-29. It is my furthest contact on the birds! Back on October 2013, Peter and I had a very nice contact between EL92sd, Cienfuegos, Cuba and IO80so, Weymouth area, UK. It was a 7286 km contact and probably the first contact between UK and Cuba on FO-29! Peter and I desired to try again on FO-29, this time between EM21hs, Texas, US and his habitual spot in IO80so. We were able to complete a very nice CW contact on the 92319 orbit of FO-29. Peter had just 0.1 degree as maxim elevation while I had 0.8 during the 80 seconds mutual window. As before, Peter did all the hard work by driving until his habitual spot at a cliff-top and setting up his "portable satellite station" (19 elements Yagi for 435MHz and 10 elements Yagi for 2m both with horizontal polarization). FO-29 was sounding really good on these orbits. It was a solid 559 satellite contact, we were very impressed. We made the calculations using our 10 digit grid squares at http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html The distance between the stations was 7537.799 km (4683.77 mi). To my knowledge, the longest distance archived on FO-29 until now had been 7,533.685 km between Frank, K4FEG and Erich, DK1TB. http://www.qrz.com/db/k4feg It appears that an even longer distance is achievable. It has been reported that FO-29 has a "theoretical maximum range" of 7502 km, but I guess that at least 7600km is doable. We will try to break our own record! This contact was possible thanks to the great feature implemented on SatPC32 V12.8b. There is an option of seeing the frequency you are at the satellite receiver at any time during a pass. It allows the operators to tune the right frequencies and attempt a contact without having to search for each other. We have some pictures, recording and GPS screen shoots. I will try to post everything online. I will be happy to email everything, also. Thanks very much to Peter for his persistence, effort and all the fun! 73! Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Thu May 7 00:59:20 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 20:59:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbitron Prediction Output - More than three lines? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <554AB8E8.6050800@frcuba.co.cu> Give Gpredict a try. It's a linux soft but on the internet there are Windows versions, This is the way I doit. It prints he pass data in about 20 lines (1/3 of a letter sheet) and I use to draw by hand the polar view below it. Select the sat, right click, next pass, list view, print. 73 El 06/05/15 a las 01:44, John Brier escibi?: > You can select Brief or 3 lines (AOS, MET, LOS) but what I would like > is a line for every minute or two during the pass, maybe selectable. > Also, can I get directions instead of AZM? I haven't gotten used to > that yet. All this would be very helpful to me instead of having to > bring my laptop, which will be hard to see outside anyway. Something I > can just print out, and look at my watch to know where it is, and > where to point, would be more convenient, I think. > > PS, I got into SO-50 this morning and this evening, meaning I could > hear myself clearly on the downlink. someone in a Delta grid square > came back to me this morning, but I didn't have the bird well enough > to receive very well and had to apologize for that. This evening I > heard myself multiple times but everyone was trying to work W4T. I got > a good audio recording of the evening pass too. If someone wants it, > let me know. My next attempt at SO-50 will be the Thursday morning > pass and the evening pass too perhaps if I don't get anything in the > morning. I must say, working this bird is very hard with such a low > power signal. It is still very fun, but I am definitely thinking about > a preamp! Hah! > > 73, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Fri May 8 09:52:16 2015 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 02:52:16 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably FO-29 world distance record; QSO between US and UK In-Reply-To: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> References: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Congratulations Hector. Glad to see you are still enthusiastically enjoying satellites and sharing that with us. 73s Bob On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF wrote: > Hello to all > > I am pleased to report that Peter G4DOL and I had another extreme QSO on > FO-29. It is my furthest contact on the birds! > > Back on October 2013, Peter and I had a very nice contact between EL92sd, > Cienfuegos, Cuba and IO80so, Weymouth area, UK. It was a 7286 km contact > and > probably the first contact between UK and Cuba on FO-29! > > Peter and I desired to try again on FO-29, this time between EM21hs, Texas, > US and his habitual spot in IO80so. We were able to complete a very nice > CW > contact on the 92319 orbit of FO-29. Peter had just 0.1 degree as maxim > elevation while I had 0.8 during the 80 seconds mutual window. As before, > Peter did all the hard work by driving until his habitual spot at a > cliff-top and setting up his "portable satellite station" (19 elements > Yagi for 435MHz and 10 elements Yagi for 2m both with horizontal > polarization). FO-29 was sounding really good on these orbits. It was a > solid 559 satellite contact, we were very impressed. > > We made the calculations using our 10 digit grid squares at > http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html The distance between the stations was > 7537.799 km (4683.77 mi). To my knowledge, the longest distance archived > on > FO-29 until now had been 7,533.685 km between Frank, K4FEG and Erich, > DK1TB. > http://www.qrz.com/db/k4feg It appears that an even longer distance is > achievable. It has been reported that FO-29 has a "theoretical maximum > range" of 7502 km, but I guess that at least 7600km is doable. We will try > to break our own record! > > This contact was possible thanks to the great feature implemented on > SatPC32 > V12.8b. There is an option of seeing the frequency you are at the satellite > receiver at any time during a pass. It allows the operators to tune the > right frequencies and attempt a contact without having to search for each > other. > > We have some pictures, recording and GPS screen shoots. I will try to post > everything online. I will be happy to email everything, also. > > Thanks very much to Peter for his persistence, effort and all the fun! > > 73! > > Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Co-Founder and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC Research Professor Virginia Tech Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri May 8 12:37:37 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 08:37:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Orbitron Prediction Output - More than three lines? In-Reply-To: <554AB8E8.6050800@frcuba.co.cu> References: <554AB8E8.6050800@frcuba.co.cu> Message-ID: Thank you Tom and Pavel. I actually already installed Sat32PC but found it hard to setup, and I found an easy setup guide for orbitron on YouTube. Gpredict I have heard of but not tried. Will look into that too. Thanks all. John, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 On May 8, 2015 2:16 AM, "Pavel Milanes Costa" wrote: > Give Gpredict a try. > > It's a linux soft but on the internet there are Windows versions, This is > the way I doit. > > It prints he pass data in about 20 lines (1/3 of a letter sheet) and I use > to draw by hand the polar view below it. > > Select the sat, right click, next pass, list view, print. > > 73 > > El 06/05/15 a las 01:44, John Brier escibi?: > >> You can select Brief or 3 lines (AOS, MET, LOS) but what I would like >> is a line for every minute or two during the pass, maybe selectable. >> Also, can I get directions instead of AZM? I haven't gotten used to >> that yet. All this would be very helpful to me instead of having to >> bring my laptop, which will be hard to see outside anyway. Something I >> can just print out, and look at my watch to know where it is, and >> where to point, would be more convenient, I think. >> >> PS, I got into SO-50 this morning and this evening, meaning I could >> hear myself clearly on the downlink. someone in a Delta grid square >> came back to me this morning, but I didn't have the bird well enough >> to receive very well and had to apologize for that. This evening I >> heard myself multiple times but everyone was trying to work W4T. I got >> a good audio recording of the evening pass too. If someone wants it, >> let me know. My next attempt at SO-50 will be the Thursday morning >> pass and the evening pass too perhaps if I don't get anything in the >> morning. I must say, working this bird is very hard with such a low >> power signal. It is still very fun, but I am definitely thinking about >> a preamp! Hah! >> >> 73, KG4AKV, Raleigh, NC, FM05 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From nss at mwt.net Fri May 8 12:36:45 2015 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 07:36:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cargo Ship Message-ID: <554CADDD.7010404@mwt.net> I know somewhat off topic, but does anyone know of a tracking page for that supply ship that is coming down? Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri May 8 12:48:17 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 07:48:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cargo Ship In-Reply-To: <554CADDD.7010404@mwt.net> References: <554CADDD.7010404@mwt.net> Message-ID: <000101d0898d$41d4e610$c57eb230$@GMAIL.COM> "The Progress M-27M spacecraft ceased to exist at 05:04 Moscow time (0204 GMT) on 8 May 2015. It entered the atmosphere... over the central part of the Pacific Ocean," Roscosmos said in a statement. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- All, The speaker at the 2015 TAPR/AMSAT Banquet will be Michael Ossmann, AD0NR, on "Adventures of a Hacker Turned Ham." Tickets ($35 each) MUST be purchased online in advance at the AMSAT Store http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=38&products_id=88 no later than 1800 EDT (2300 UTC) Tuesday, May 12th. Tickets will not be sold at the Hamvention or at the banquet door. Tickets purchased online may be picked up at the AMSAT booth (433-435, 444-446) by Friday afternoon. More information on the speaker, menu, and location may be found at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=190. 73s, Alan WA4SCA From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Fri May 8 04:41:56 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 00:41:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably FO-29 world distance record; QSO between US and UK In-Reply-To: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> References: <000a01d0880c$1d784230$5868c690$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <554C3E94.8090800@frcuba.co.cu> Felicidades Hector !!! 73 desde Cuba. El 06/05/15 a las 10:51, Hector W5CBF/CO6CBF escibi?: > Hello to all > > I am pleased to report that Peter G4DOL and I had another extreme QSO on > FO-29. It is my furthest contact on the birds! > > Back on October 2013, Peter and I had a very nice contact between EL92sd, > Cienfuegos, Cuba and IO80so, Weymouth area, UK. It was a 7286 km contact and > probably the first contact between UK and Cuba on FO-29! > > Peter and I desired to try again on FO-29, this time between EM21hs, Texas, > US and his habitual spot in IO80so. We were able to complete a very nice CW > contact on the 92319 orbit of FO-29. Peter had just 0.1 degree as maxim > elevation while I had 0.8 during the 80 seconds mutual window. As before, > Peter did all the hard work by driving until his habitual spot at a > cliff-top and setting up his "portable satellite station" (19 elements > Yagi for 435MHz and 10 elements Yagi for 2m both with horizontal > polarization). FO-29 was sounding really good on these orbits. It was a > solid 559 satellite contact, we were very impressed. > > We made the calculations using our 10 digit grid squares at > http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html The distance between the stations was > 7537.799 km (4683.77 mi). To my knowledge, the longest distance archived on > FO-29 until now had been 7,533.685 km between Frank, K4FEG and Erich, DK1TB. > http://www.qrz.com/db/k4feg It appears that an even longer distance is > achievable. It has been reported that FO-29 has a "theoretical maximum > range" of 7502 km, but I guess that at least 7600km is doable. We will try > to break our own record! > > This contact was possible thanks to the great feature implemented on SatPC32 > V12.8b. There is an option of seeing the frequency you are at the satellite > receiver at any time during a pass. It allows the operators to tune the > right frequencies and attempt a contact without having to search for each > other. > > We have some pictures, recording and GPS screen shoots. I will try to post > everything online. I will be happy to email everything, also. > > Thanks very much to Peter for his persistence, effort and all the fun! > > 73! > > Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From hamsat at xs4all.nl Fri May 8 13:12:07 2015 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 15:12:07 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cargo Ship In-Reply-To: <000101d0898d$41d4e610$c57eb230$@GMAIL.COM> References: <554CADDD.7010404@mwt.net> <000101d0898d$41d4e610$c57eb230$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: <554CB627.4010704@xs4all.nl> Actually it re-entered at 02:20 UTC +/- 1 minute on May 8. For the full story, see this page: http://www.spaceflight101.com/progress-m-27m-re-entry.html 73, Nico PA0DLO On 2015-05-08 14:48, Alan wrote: > "The Progress M-27M spacecraft ceased to exist at 05:04 Moscow time (0204 GMT) on 8 May 2015. It > entered the atmosphere... over the central part of the Pacific Ocean," Roscosmos said in a statement. > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > < > < > <-- > <_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jimlist at zoho.com Sat May 9 09:12:31 2015 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck) Date: Sat, 09 May 2015 10:12:31 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change In-Reply-To: <5543FCD1.8040305@zoho.com> References: <55282E67.7020104@zoho.com> <553AB7FC.9040508@zoho.com> <5543FCD1.8040305@zoho.com> Message-ID: <554DCF7F.6000206@zoho.com> Hi All, Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 1010UTC) been commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to autonomous mode on Sunday pm. Apols for no mode change last evening, due to command station unavailability. Have FUN! 73 Jim G3WGM From k8tl at earthlink.net Sat May 9 12:57:59 2015 From: k8tl at earthlink.net (Tom Lubbers K8TL) Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 08:57:59 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] Sorry about my Packet Message-ID: <25977906.1431176279622.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Due to inattention on my part I was transmitting packets on several orbits of SO-50. The good news is the number of operators who were able to determine what was going on and inform me of it. Sorry for the QRM Tom K8TL From ku4os at cfl.rr.com Sun May 10 02:58:52 2015 From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb) Date: Sat, 09 May 2015 22:58:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-130 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <554EC96C.9000200@cfl.rr.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-130 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Deadline for 2015 TAPR/AMSAT Banquet ticket is Tuesday, May 12th at 1800 EDT * AMSAT at Dayton Hamvention 2015 * Work Fox-1A at Dayton * Top 10 Reasons to Come to Dayton * 7th European CubeSat Symposium * ISS Ham Video transmitter now transmitting * NASA Hosts Media Call on Draft Solicitation for New Class of Launch Services SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-130.01 ANS-130 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 130.01 From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD. May 10, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-130.01 Deadline for 2015 TAPR/AMSAT Banquet ticket is Tuesday, May 12th at 1800 EDT The speaker at the 2015 TAPR/AMSAT Banquet will be Michael Ossmann, AD0NR, on "Adventures of a Hacker Turned Ham." Tickets ($35 each) MUST be purchased online in advance at the AMSAT Store no later than 1800 EDT (2300 UTC) Tuesday, May 12th. Tickets will not be sold at the Hamvention or at the door. Tickets purchased online may be collected at the AMSAT booth (433-435, 444-446). More information may be found at http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=190. [ANS thanks Alan, WA4SCA, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT at Dayton Hamvention 2015 The AMSAT theme for this year is "Year of The Fox", as we expect to launch both Fox-1A and Fox-1C in 2015 and we're announcing the plans for Fox-1D and Fox-1E. The AMSAT booth is in the same location inside the Ball Arena as last year, in booths 433-435 and 444-446. The Tracking Software Demos (433) and Engineering & Education (434-435) are across the aisle from the Beginner's Corner (444) and Membership, Books & Shirts (445-446). The closest entrance to the AMSAT booth is the Ball Arena entrance (Door 1) at the southeast corner of the building. The satellite QSO demonstrations will be outside across from the entrance to the Ball Arena. AMSAT Forum ----------- The AMSAT forum will be Saturday morning from 11:15 a.m. through 1:30 p.m. in Forum Room 5, close to the AMSAT booth. See the commercial vendor layout map in the Hamvention program or the Hamvention website for the location of Forum Room 5 (same as the last few years). The following speakers will be presenting at the AMSAT Forum: + Moderator: Alan Biddle, WA4SCA + "AMSAT Status Report." Barry Baines, WD4ASW, AMSAT-NA President, will highlight recent activities within AMSAT and discuss some of the challenges, accomplishments, and exciting projects of the organization. + "ARISS Report 2015" Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, AMSAT-NA Vice President for Human Spaceflight, will discuss ARISS development & operations on the International Space Station. + "AMSAT-NA Fox Satellite Program." Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT-NA Engineering Vice President, will discuss the upcoming launches of four Fox spacecraft and exciting new engineering developments. + "AMSAT Satellite Operations." Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, AMSAT-NA Operations Vice President, will discuss current satellites, as well as those planned for launch in the next year. + "AMSAT's Skunk Works." Tom Clark, K3IO, AMSAT-NA President Emeritus, will discuss some innovative R&D items for future spacecraft. + "Amateur Satellites, Education, and You!" EMike McCardel, KC8YLD, AMSAT-NA Educational Relations Vice President, will discuss the resources and equipment which supports the educational goals of AMSAT-NA. On-the-air Satellite Demonstrations ----------------------------------- Keith Pugh, W5IU and other volunteers will be conducting satellite demonstrations during the Hamvention. They will be demonstrating satellite operation using a manual station to work all the currently available FM satellites and SSB satellites. Hamvention has provided us a nice fenced area right outside the Ball Arena entrance in which to do our satellite demonstrations. A schedule of satellite passes for the Hamvention will be available in the Beginner's Corner and in the demonstration area. [ANS thanks the AMSAT Dayton Hamvention Posse for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Work Fox-1A at Dayton Bring your HT to Dayton Hamvention, you can work each other on the Fox-1 engineering unit repeater at the AMSAT Engineering Booth! Uplink: 435.180 MHz FM, CTCSS 67.0 Hz Downlink: 145.980 MHz FM ? Doppler (which should be minimal) [ANS thanks Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT VP Engineering, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Top 10 Reasons to Come to Dayton 10. Rub shoulders with 25,000 of your best friends at the largest hamfest in the United States, including nearly all of the AMSAT Directors and senior officers. 9. Find out how to organize a contact with the astronauts on the International Space Station for your local school or youth group from our Education and ARISS experts. 8. Pickup the latest AMSAT golf shirts, T-shirts, and hats. Get your copy of the updated "Amateur Satellite Frequency Guide" (laminated frequency chart) and Gould Smith's just revised "Getting Started with Amateur Satellites" (book). We'll also have assembled wide-band preamps that are great for portable operation. 7. See the latest equipment from Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood, Flex, Alinco, M2, Arrow, and many other manufacturers of amateur radio equipment and accessories. Take advantage of discounted pricing you won't find anywhere else. 6. See demonstrations of SatPC32 and MacDoppler satellite tracking software, and get your operational questions answered. Meet Don Agro, author of MacDoppler (Friday & Saturday, 2-3 p.m.). See a demonstration of the LVB Tracker, a computer interface to the Yaesu azimuth-elevation rotors. Talk with Mike Young, who has built more LVB Trackers than anyone else. Assembled LVB Trackers will be available. 5. Hear the latest on the *five* Fox satellites, the geosynchronous rideshare opportunity, the International Space Station, other current and future satellites, Education news, and an AMSAT update at the AMSAT Forum Saturday, from 11:15 to 1:30. 4. Get one-on-one guidance on setting up your satellite station and making contacts at our "Beginner's Corner". Witness live demonstrations of contacts through satellites AO-7, FO-29, SO-50, AO-73, and the Fox-1C engineering model using handheld antennas. 3. Bring your dual-band HT and listen (on 2m FM) to the Fox-1A engineering model, and transmit through the model on 70cm. Meet and interact with some of the Engineering Team members working on the Fox-1 satellites. 2. Get satellite station and operating tips from some of the best satellite operators in the country, including John Papay K8YSE (1,405 grids confirmed), Doug Papay KD8CAO (1,045 grids), Drew Glasbrenner KO4MA (1,036 grids), Paul Stoetzer (444 grids), and Keith Pugh W5IU (ARISS Mentor). 1. Receive special premiums when you join or renew your AMSAT membership at Dayton, including an updated "Amateur Satellite Frequency Guide" (laminated frequency chart), an AMSAT pen/stylus, and special pricing on the SatPC32 satellite tracking software. [ANS thanks Steve, N9IP, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 7th European CubeSat Symposium 7th European CubeSat Symposium that will take place at Li?ge (Belgium) on 9-11 September 2015. The Symposium is co-organized by the von Karman Institute and the University of Liege (Space Structures and Systems Laboratory). As in the previous years, the Symposium is open to all CubeSat community around the World. For more information and deadlines, please visit the symposium website www.cubesatsymposium.eu Please remember to submit your abstract before the 15th June 2015. If you are a student, please apply for the sponsorship before that date. The Symposium will be followed by a short course in astrodynamics organized by the University of Li?ge (more information at this link). [ANS thanks Dr. Masutti for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ISS Ham Video transmitter now transmitting Friday May 1st, 2015 the Ham Video transmitter on board the Columbus module of the International Space Station was powered on and started transmitting in "Blank Transmission" (BT) mode. In this mode, the transmitter is operated without camera. The digital TV signal is fully formatted, but the content of the video is black and the content of the audio is at zero level. From a technical perspective, the BT signal is all that is needed for testing and fine tuning ground stations. The European network of chained ground stations is presently nearly complete. Six ground stations span the continent in "X" formation. For each ascending pass over Europe, four stations provide about ten minutes of solid copy and the same is true for descending passes: - Ascending passes: Lisbon (Portugal ==> Poitiers (France) ==> Casale Monferrato (North Italy ==> Kolo (Poland) - Descending passes : Cork (Ireland) ==> Poitiers (France) ==> Casale Monferrato (North Italy ==> Matera (South Italy. The chained ground stations are streaming the digital video to the BATC server (British Amateur Television Club). BATC set up a multiviewer page, accessible at: http://www.batc.tv/iss/ The page shows all six streams from the chained ground stations. Each view can be maximized to full screen and the audio of each stream can be set to level or muted. Presently, active stations stream technical data provided by the software developed by Jean Pierre Courjaud F6DZP. Several data are most interesting to observe: - the "constellations", which visualize the QPSK (quaternary PSK) modulated signal - the digital Signal/Noise ratio = MER (dB) (Modulation Error Ratio) - the control LEDs that change from red to green on decoding the digital signal. The Ham Video transmitter frequency is 2395MHz and the symbol rate is 2.0Ms/sec. More information is available at: http://www.ariss-eu.org/columbus.htm The Ham Video transmitter will stay on as long as on board operations permit. When the ground stations will be operating reliably, the Ham Video transmitter will be used to enhance ARISS school contacts. Uplink will remain VHF audio only. This operational mode is dubbed ARISS Ham TV. [ANS thanks Gaston, ON4WF, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- NASA Hosts Media Call on Draft Solicitation for New Class of Launch Services NASA's Launch Services Program has issued a draft Request for Proposal (RFP) for a new Venture Class Launch Services (VCLS), which would be commercial launch services for small satellites and experiments on science missions using a smaller than currently available class of rockets. NASA Logo NASA will host a media teleconference at 1 p.m. EDT Monday, May 11 to discuss this strategic initiative, the RFP and the expectation for this class of launch services. At present, launch opportunities for small satellites -- often called CubeSats or nanosatellites -- and small science missions are mostly limited to ride-share type arrangements, flying only when space is available on NASA and other launches. The Launch Services Program seeks to develop alternatives to this approach and help foster other launch services dedicated to transporting smaller payloads into orbit. The services acquired through such a contract will constitute the smallest class of launch services used by NASA. Participants in the media briefing are: Mark Wiese, chief, Flight Projects Branch, Launch Services Program Business Office, NASA's Kennedy Space Center Garrett Skrobot, mission manager, Educational Launch of Nanosatellites (ELaNa), Launch Services Program, NASA's Kennedy Space Center This solicitation, and resulting contract or contracts, is intended to demonstrate a dedicated launch capability for smaller payloads that NASA anticipates it will require on a recurring basis for future science and CubeSat missions. CubeSats already are used in markets, such as imagery collection and analysis. In the future, CubeSat capabilities will include abilities, such as ship and aircraft tracking, improved weather prediction, and broader Internet coverage. NASA intends to award one or more firm fixed-price VCLS contracts to accommodate 132 pounds (60 kilograms) of CubeSats a single launch or two launches carrying 66 pounds (30 kilograms) each. The launch provider will determine the launch location and date, but the launch must occur by April 15, 2018. To listen to the media teleconference, call 321-867-1220, 321-867-1240 or 321-867-1260 or listen online at: http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio Media may participate in the briefing by calling the Kennedy Space Center news center at 321-867-2468 within 15 minutes prior to the start of Monday's teleconference to obtain a passcode for voice access. The draft RFP is open for written questions and comments from industry entities until Wednesday, May 20. The final RFP, if issued, is anticipated to be released in June. The draft RFP may be accessed at: http://go.nasa.gov/1KMTeDR For more information about NASA's CubeSat Launch Initiative, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/directorates/heo/home/CubeSats_initiative.html NASA's Launch Services Program is focused on assuring the availability of long- term launch services for NASA while also promoting the continued evolution of the U.S. commercial space launch market. The capability anticipated to meet the requirement for a smaller launch vehicle represents an emerging category of launch services. For more information about NASA's Launch Services Program, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/launchingrockets/index.html [ANS thanks NASA for the above information] /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Lee McLamb, KU4OS ku4os at amsat dot org From g.shirville at btinternet.com Sun May 10 20:39:27 2015 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 21:39:27 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Mode change Message-ID: <8806D468F0ED47F580F667A9B25E3150@allgood.local> Hi All, Just to report that FUNcube-1 was switched back to autonomous mode around 20:25 UTC this evening. We have received a request to provide an extended period of continuous amateur mode this coming weekend from Friday morning 15th May until Sunday evening 17th May. This will support AMSAT transponder operations during the whole of the Dayton Hamvention event. Unless we hear that this change will interfere with any planned schools activities during Friday 15th we will arrange for the transponder to switch on during the first suitable pass over EU on Friday morning. 73 Graham ? G3VZV for the FUNcube Ops Team From af5cc at fidmail.com Sun May 10 22:05:57 2015 From: af5cc at fidmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 17:05:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO50 pass today Message-ID: Who was the station on from FM09 on SO50 today on the 2131Z pass? 73 John AF5CC From n8hm at arrl.net Mon May 11 02:37:40 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 22:37:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updates to the AMSAT Upcoming Satellite Operations Page Message-ID: Good evening, I just wanted to let everyone know that there are 16 operations to many rare grids and a couple of rare countries over the next two and a half months now listed on the AMSAT Upcoming Satellite Operations page ( http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3921 ). I encourage everyone to bookmark the page and/or follow @AMSAT on Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/AMSAT) to see notifications when operations are added to the page. Please send me any updates, corrections, or new operations to add to the page. 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM From n8hm at arrl.net Mon May 11 13:48:05 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 09:48:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 73 on 73 Award #19 - JH3XCU Message-ID: Good morning, Congratulations to Hideo Kambayashi, JH3XCU, for working 73 different stations on AO-73 since September 1, 2014. Notably, he is the first to work all 73 different stations using CW. For more information on the award see http://amsat-uk.org/funcube/73-on-73-award/ 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon May 11 15:00:31 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 11:00:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Video of my first SO-50 contact with K4FEG Message-ID: Thanks to all for welcoming me on the bird on the early morning pass. I made a short video of my contact with K4FEG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ3pvpVERFQ Here's a quick video of my first contact on SO-50, with K4FEG in Millington, TN. I didn't want to edit the whole thing because that takes even more time, but I also made contacts with the following stations: N2PPL, Long Island, NY W2HRO, Titusville, NJ WI9I, Springfield, IL And maybe KD8ATF in Fort Ashby, WV depending on if it's okay to confirm something by listening to the recording. :-) Thanks to all on the bird for making my first 2-way contacts so fun and easy! 73, John, KG4AKV, FM05 From jim at coloradosatellite.com Mon May 11 15:24:08 2015 From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 09:24:08 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] VP2MKV pass plan Message-ID: <5550C998.3040004@coloradosatellite.com> Tentative satellite pass plan for VP2MKV operation: We will attempt to be on the first two FO-29 ascending node passes June 11 through 20. If time allows we may be on the third ascending node those days. Those passes happen in late morning to mid afternoon Montserrat time. On those passes we will look first for South America when the satellite is South of us, then North America, then Europe during the short mutual window. If there are 2 meter or 6 meter terrestrial openings during the VHF contest June 13 and 14 we will not be on satellite at those times. Jim From kx9x at yahoo.com Mon May 11 19:08:29 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial Message-ID: <759720838.1993653.1431371309963.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all- ARRL has provided a PowerPoint presentation on Logbook of The World focused on satellite operation in the ARRL Online Library. There is also an Intro to LoTW PowerPoint available. Both may be found at www.arrl.org/library, in the PowerPoint area. ?Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From skristof at etczone.com Mon May 11 19:16:25 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:16:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? Message-ID: I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it was, I missed it. Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a message directed from one station directly to another station with a callsign, name and grid square and a directed reply in the same format would constitute a valid QSO. I'd like to hear other's thoughts. Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway. I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list via the UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to me. If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on Tuesday, May 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC. Steve Kristoff AI9IN EM79ji skristof at etczone.com From vlfiscus at mcn.net Mon May 11 20:33:34 2015 From: vlfiscus at mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:33:34 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20150511142601.00c2aca8@pop.earthlink.net> At 03:16 PM 5/11/2015 -0400, Steve Kristoff wrote: >I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it >was, I missed it. >Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? Yes, If you can get through the APRS QRM. You have to unproto via the ISS digi callsign. Back in the Mir days packet contacts were easy, but APRS has rendered keyboarding through the ISS digi pretty much impossible. KB7ADL From skristof at etczone.com Mon May 11 19:47:04 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:47:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20150511142601.00c2aca8@pop.earthlink.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20150511142601.00c2aca8@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: The UISS software has a macro just for messages. That should work, yes? Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof at etczone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" To: Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? > At 03:16 PM 5/11/2015 -0400, Steve Kristoff wrote: >>I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it >>was, I missed it. >>Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? > > > Yes, If you can get through the APRS QRM. > > You have to unproto via the ISS digi callsign. Back in the Mir > days packet contacts were easy, but APRS has rendered keyboarding > through the ISS digi pretty much impossible. > > KB7ADL > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wageners at gmail.com Mon May 11 19:57:12 2015 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:57:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20150511142601.00c2aca8@pop.earthlink.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20150511142601.00c2aca8@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hi Vince, I would disagree with that statement. While I don't have time every week to do that, whenever I use the ISS APRS, I have been able to connect with one or two stations (pending time and orbit) using UISS to have a quick exchange. It is all within the operator and willingness to respond. The key is to respond to a specific station in the beginning using their callsign as listed by UISS. Just checked on ARISS.net and folks have been chatting on the last pass even today. 73, Stefan, VE4NSA On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote: > At 03:16 PM 5/11/2015 -0400, Steve Kristoff wrote: > >> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it >> was, I missed it. >> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? >> > > > Yes, If you can get through the APRS QRM. > > You have to unproto via the ISS digi callsign. Back in the Mir > days packet contacts were easy, but APRS has rendered keyboarding > through the ISS digi pretty much impossible. > > KB7ADL > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w0jab at big-river.net Mon May 11 20:01:02 2015 From: w0jab at big-river.net (John Becker) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:01:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20150511142601.00c2aca8@pop.earthlink.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20150511142601.00c2aca8@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <55510A7E.6090404@big-river.net> On 5/11/2015 3:33 PM, > Yes, If you can get through the APRS QRM. So true ! From kc0bmf at gmail.com Mon May 11 20:02:23 2015 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:02:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?Steve Sure you can. What are you using for software ? I use UISS and what I do is send call sign, some sort of signal report (it could be 59,599,grid or combination of report and grid ) and then a 73?. I think as long as there is protocol similar to JT65 where the three things are sent and received in back and forth order, other stations call,a report and 73, this way your pretty sure there is someone on the other end and your not just getting someones automatic announcement. Hope to see you on. 73 John KC0BMF 1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Steve Kristoff wrote: > I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it > was, I missed it. > Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a message > directed from one station directly to another station with a callsign, name > and grid square and a directed reply in the same format would constitute a > valid QSO. > I'd like to hear other's thoughts. > Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway. > I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list via the > UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to me. > If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on Tuesday, May > 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC. > > Steve Kristoff AI9IN > EM79ji > skristof at etczone.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kx9x at yahoo.com Mon May 11 21:15:25 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:15:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5346E92F-F46C-4201-8175-2F83892FE70A@yahoo.com> There needs to be an exchange of info and acknowledgement from both stations that reports were received on both ends. Kx9x: CQ KX9X Kc0bmf: KX9X de KC0BMF EM29 Kx9x: KC0BMF R FN31 Kc0bmf: KX9X R 73 Kx9x: 73 QRZ KX9X UISS software can handle this quite easily. That's my opinion, anyway. Sean KX9X Sent from Sean's iPad > On May 11, 2015, at 4:02 PM, John Fickes wrote: > > ?Steve > Sure you can. What are you using for software ? I use UISS and what I do > is send call sign, some sort of signal report (it could be 59,599,grid or > combination of report and grid ) and then a 73?. I think as long as there > is protocol similar to JT65 where the three things are sent and received in > back and forth order, other stations call,a report and 73, this way your > pretty sure there is someone on the other end and your not just getting > someones automatic announcement. Hope to see you on. > > 73 John KC0BMF > > 1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Steve Kristoff > wrote: > >> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it >> was, I missed it. >> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a message >> directed from one station directly to another station with a callsign, name >> and grid square and a directed reply in the same format would constitute a >> valid QSO. >> I'd like to hear other's thoughts. >> Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway. >> I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list via the >> UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to me. >> If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on Tuesday, May >> 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC. >> >> Steve Kristoff AI9IN >> EM79ji >> skristof at etczone.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon May 11 21:52:14 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:52:14 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? In-Reply-To: <5346E92F-F46C-4201-8175-2F83892FE70A@yahoo.com> References: <5346E92F-F46C-4201-8175-2F83892FE70A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sean (and others), That looks good. The initial "CQ" call could start with receiving a station's beacon containing the location or other text that is sent through the ISS digipeater. Sometimes I'll see only a signal report from the other station (59 or 599), since the location has already been received from a beacon packet with that information. This would be similar to sending only a "59" when working a DXpedition, where they really don't care to hear too much when making lots of QSOs. I don't normally send a CQ when on ISS passes (or, when it's behaving, NO-44 passes), but will enable a beacon with my position and my two call signs when I'm at the radio. By using APRS messaging instead of just typing free-form text, you will be able to make packet QSOs with stations that may only have radios like the Kenwood TH-D72A or TM-D710 (or their predecessors), as well as those using programs like UISS that speak APRS messaging, or simpler terminal programs that don't speak APRS messaging. These radios can receive the APRS messages, and - using the DTMF pads - send APRS messages. My TH-D72A will see the call of a station that sends me a free-form line of text like: WD9EWK-9 UR 599 (grid) but not the text. I might be able to see this packet on ariss.net, but that would not be receiving it on my radio, so no QSO. If that free-form text line includes a colon before the text: WD9EWK-9 :UR 599 (grid) (my call with -9, space, colon, then text) my TH-D72A would interpret that as an APRS message directed to me, from whoever sent it to me. The sender's call and a date/time stamp would be stored with the received message, and then I can view this message on the HT. From there, I can quickly send a reply without having to enter the other station's call. I'm typing out messages like we would on an old flip-style mobile phone, pressing the buttons repeatedly to get certain characters on the screen. This works, and provides a way to interact with other stations without the need for a computer or other device connected to the radio. I do not enable any automatic responses when I receive messages, other than the ACK responses if I receive an APRS message that expects one. Some will enable an automatic response that may say something like "Thanks, 73!", and I think the Kenwood radios will put an "AA:" before the response if it is generated by the radio and not the operator. Other than my position packets, I try not to add to the clutter from the unattended stations that squawk during every ISS pass. Whether I'm at home or on the road, using my Elk antenna or even a long telescoping whip, I find I can get through the ISS digipeater with my TH-D72A at just 5 watts. From Arizona, I have worked stations on the ISS as far away as Wisconsin, Indiana, and east Texas. On NO-44, I have worked stations from home as far as Mississippi. I am also working stations at hamfests or other demonstrations, and on my recent grid expeditions to Las Vegas and New Mexico. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB wrote: > There needs to be an exchange of info and acknowledgement from both stations that reports were received on both ends. > > Kx9x: CQ KX9X > Kc0bmf: KX9X de KC0BMF EM29 > Kx9x: KC0BMF R FN31 > Kc0bmf: KX9X R 73 > Kx9x: 73 QRZ KX9X > > UISS software can handle this quite easily. > > That's my opinion, anyway. > > Sean KX9X > > Sent from Sean's iPad > > > >> On May 11, 2015, at 4:02 PM, John Fickes wrote: >> >> Steve >> Sure you can. What are you using for software ? I use UISS and what I do >> is send call sign, some sort of signal report (it could be 59,599,grid or >> combination of report and grid ) and then a 73. I think as long as there >> is protocol similar to JT65 where the three things are sent and received in >> back and forth order, other stations call,a report and 73, this way your >> pretty sure there is someone on the other end and your not just getting >> someones automatic announcement. Hope to see you on. >> >> 73 John KC0BMF >> >> 1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk >> >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Steve Kristoff >> wrote: >> >>> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if it >>> was, I missed it. >>> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a message >>> directed from one station directly to another station with a callsign, name >>> and grid square and a directed reply in the same format would constitute a >>> valid QSO. >>> I'd like to hear other's thoughts. >>> Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway. >>> I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list via the >>> UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to me. >>> If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on Tuesday, May >>> 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC. >>> >>> Steve Kristoff AI9IN >>> EM79ji >>> skristof at etczone.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Mon May 11 21:56:29 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:56:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? (use >) Message-ID: <9cf168c7fe7746b89f042621586847d8@mail.gmail.com> If packet stations simply put a ">" as the first character of their packet then they instantly become "APRS Sttus" messages and will show on the front panel of ALL APRS radios and handhelds. Without that, the packet is undefined and not displayed as being non-APRS. So packet stations desiring to be seen by most of the others on ISS, should remember that if they want to be seen by others begin with a">". Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 5:52 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? Sean (and others), That looks good. The initial "CQ" call could start with receiving a station's beacon containing the location or other text that is sent through the ISS digipeater. Sometimes I'll see only a signal report from the other station (59 or 599), since the location has already been received from a beacon packet with that information. This would be similar to sending only a "59" when working a DXpedition, where they really don't care to hear too much when making lots of QSOs. I don't normally send a CQ when on ISS passes (or, when it's behaving, NO-44 passes), but will enable a beacon with my position and my two call signs when I'm at the radio. By using APRS messaging instead of just typing free-form text, you will be able to make packet QSOs with stations that may only have radios like the Kenwood TH-D72A or TM-D710 (or their predecessors), as well as those using programs like UISS that speak APRS messaging, or simpler terminal programs that don't speak APRS messaging. These radios can receive the APRS messages, and - using the DTMF pads - send APRS messages. My TH-D72A will see the call of a station that sends me a free-form line of text like: WD9EWK-9 UR 599 (grid) but not the text. I might be able to see this packet on ariss.net, but that would not be receiving it on my radio, so no QSO. If that free-form text line includes a colon before the text: WD9EWK-9 :UR 599 (grid) (my call with -9, space, colon, then text) my TH-D72A would interpret that as an APRS message directed to me, from whoever sent it to me. The sender's call and a date/time stamp would be stored with the received message, and then I can view this message on the HT. From there, I can quickly send a reply without having to enter the other station's call. I'm typing out messages like we would on an old flip-style mobile phone, pressing the buttons repeatedly to get certain characters on the screen. This works, and provides a way to interact with other stations without the need for a computer or other device connected to the radio. I do not enable any automatic responses when I receive messages, other than the ACK responses if I receive an APRS message that expects one. Some will enable an automatic response that may say something like "Thanks, 73!", and I think the Kenwood radios will put an "AA:" before the response if it is generated by the radio and not the operator. Other than my position packets, I try not to add to the clutter from the unattended stations that squawk during every ISS pass. Whether I'm at home or on the road, using my Elk antenna or even a long telescoping whip, I find I can get through the ISS digipeater with my TH-D72A at just 5 watts. From Arizona, I have worked stations on the ISS as far away as Wisconsin, Indiana, and east Texas. On NO-44, I have worked stations from home as far as Mississippi. I am also working stations at hamfests or other demonstrations, and on my recent grid expeditions to Las Vegas and New Mexico. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Sean Kutzko via AMSAT-BB wrote: > There needs to be an exchange of info and acknowledgement from both stations that reports were received on both ends. > > Kx9x: CQ KX9X > Kc0bmf: KX9X de KC0BMF EM29 > Kx9x: KC0BMF R FN31 > Kc0bmf: KX9X R 73 > Kx9x: 73 QRZ KX9X > > UISS software can handle this quite easily. > > That's my opinion, anyway. > > Sean KX9X > > Sent from Sean's iPad > > > >> On May 11, 2015, at 4:02 PM, John Fickes wrote: >> >> Steve >> Sure you can. What are you using for software ? I use UISS and what >> I do is send call sign, some sort of signal report (it could be >> 59,599,grid or combination of report and grid ) and then a 73. I >> think as long as there is protocol similar to JT65 where the three >> things are sent and received in back and forth order, other stations >> call,a report and 73, this way your pretty sure there is someone on >> the other end and your not just getting someones automatic announcement. Hope to see you on. >> >> 73 John KC0BMF >> >> 1:16 Minutes:Greatest commercial EVER >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxU1ZhINaHk >> >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Steve Kristoff >> >> wrote: >> >>> I apologize if this has been dealt with in a previous thread, but if >>> it was, I missed it. >>> Can we do a valid QSO by ISS digipeater? It seems to me that a >>> message directed from one station directly to another station with a >>> callsign, name and grid square and a directed reply in the same >>> format would constitute a valid QSO. >>> I'd like to hear other's thoughts. >>> Even it doesn't constitute an "official" QSO, I'd like to try it anyway. >>> I've been sending messages to specific stations on the Heard list >>> via the UISS software, but have never received a reply specifically addressed to me. >>> If anyone is interested in doing that, I will probably be on >>> Tuesday, May 12, around 1005 UTC and again around 1632 UTC. >>> >>> Steve Kristoff AI9IN >>> EM79ji >>> skristof at etczone.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: >>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Tue May 12 02:25:32 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 02:25:32 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi QSO via ISS? (use >) In-Reply-To: <9cf168c7fe7746b89f042621586847d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cf168c7fe7746b89f042621586847d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob! I was not aware of this. Thanks! For me with just my TH-D72A, I'm still partial to the APRS messages. Then I have a copy of what I sent and received in the HT, without hoping that gateway stations have received all of the packets and forwarded them to ariss.net. The APRS status packets will be overwritten with successive packets received from the other station(s), although if I see what I want to see I can still call it a QSO. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > If packet stations simply put a ">" as the first character of their packet > then they instantly become "APRS Sttus" messages and will show on the > front panel of ALL APRS radios and handhelds. > > Without that, the packet is undefined and not displayed as being non-APRS. > So packet stations desiring to be seen by most of the others on ISS, > should remember that if they want to be seen by others begin with a">". > > Bob, WB4APR From kx9x at yahoo.com Tue May 12 02:38:24 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 02:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial In-Reply-To: <1431391309.2941.YahooMailIosMobile@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1431391309.2941.YahooMailIosMobile@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2147212267.152949.1431398304563.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Mark- For satellite QSOs, you need to enter BOTH xmit and receive bands, since they are different. >From the presentation: "Logging QSOs made through the Amateur satellites is not much different than logging any other QSO on the air. The standard QSO information - callsign, date, time, band and mode are logged. But to receive proper credit for a satellite QSO, the log entry must also include the receive band, propagation mode ("satellite"), and the satellite name." ?Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From: Mark Johns To: "kx9x at yahoo.com" ; "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial | The PowerPoint on LoTW advises logging and uploading the receive (downlink) band. When I did this, I was regularly chastised and told that the correct procedure was to designate the transmit (uplink) band. So which is correct? -- Mark D. Johns, K0MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 At May 11, 2015, 14:09:00, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote:Hi all- ARRL has provided a PowerPoint presentation on Logbook of The World focused on satellite operation in the ARRL Online Library. There is also an Intro to LoTW PowerPoint available. Both may be found at www.arrl.org/library, in the PowerPoint area. Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb | From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Tue May 12 02:49:31 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 02:49:31 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial In-Reply-To: <2147212267.152949.1431398304563.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1431391309.2941.YahooMailIosMobile@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2147212267.152949.1431398304563.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sean, I'm not sure the receive band is a mandatory field, unless something recently changed. Many of us have been using a PDF file written by John Barber N5JB to get our satellite QSOs into Logbook of the World. It has been available from the ARRL web site for a long time: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf In this PDF, only 7 fields are listed as mandatory to make a valid satellite QSO record in LOTW: CALL QSO_DATE TIME_ON BAND MODE PROP_MODE SAT_NAME The SAT_NAME field must be one of the satellites named on the LOTW FAQ page: https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/frequently-asked-questions/#sats (By the way, who at ARRL should we ask to get Mir listed as a valid satellite? I've been e-mailing and filing help desk tickets, but nothing has ever been done with my requests) Optional fields that satellite QSOs could use include: FREQ BAND_RX FREQ_RX When I started to upload my satellite QSOs in 2011, I only used the 7 mandatory fields for my QSOs. I have since added the other 3 fields on QSOs I've uploaded for the past 4+ years, to have a more complete record in LOTW that I can log into and view anytime I want to consult my log (and have Internet access). Thanks, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi Mark- > For satellite QSOs, you need to enter BOTH xmit and receive bands, since they are different. > From the presentation: > "Logging QSOs made through the Amateur satellites is not much different than logging any other QSO on the air. > The standard QSO information - callsign, date, time, band and mode are logged. > But to receive proper credit for a satellite QSO, the log entry must also include the receive band, propagation mode ("satellite"), and the satellite name." > > Sean Kutzko > Amateur Radio KX9X > From: Mark Johns > To: "kx9x at yahoo.com" ; "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 8:41 PM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial > > > | The PowerPoint on LoTW advises logging and uploading the receive (downlink) band. When I did this, I was regularly chastised and told that the correct procedure was to designate the transmit (uplink) band. So which is correct? > -- > Mark D. Johns, K0MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA > EN43 > > > > At May 11, 2015, 14:09:00, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote:Hi all- > ARRL has provided a PowerPoint presentation on Logbook of The World focused on satellite operation in the ARRL Online Library. There is also an Intro to LoTW PowerPoint available. > Both may be found at www.arrl.org/library, in the PowerPoint area. > Sean Kutzko > Amateur Radio KX9X > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > | > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk0sd at tnics.com Tue May 12 03:05:28 2015 From: kk0sd at tnics.com (Gary Mayfield) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 22:05:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial In-Reply-To: References: <1431391309.2941.YahooMailIosMobile@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2147212267.152949.1431398304563.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <043001d08c60$8036f9e0$80a4eda0$@com> Receive band is not required. I have gotten credit for many a SAT QSO without it. 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:50 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial Sean, I'm not sure the receive band is a mandatory field, unless something recently changed. Many of us have been using a PDF file written by John Barber N5JB to get our satellite QSOs into Logbook of the World. It has been available from the ARRL web site for a long time: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf In this PDF, only 7 fields are listed as mandatory to make a valid satellite QSO record in LOTW: CALL QSO_DATE TIME_ON BAND MODE PROP_MODE SAT_NAME The SAT_NAME field must be one of the satellites named on the LOTW FAQ page: https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/frequently-asked-questions/#sats (By the way, who at ARRL should we ask to get Mir listed as a valid satellite? I've been e-mailing and filing help desk tickets, but nothing has ever been done with my requests) Optional fields that satellite QSOs could use include: FREQ BAND_RX FREQ_RX When I started to upload my satellite QSOs in 2011, I only used the 7 mandatory fields for my QSOs. I have since added the other 3 fields on QSOs I've uploaded for the past 4+ years, to have a more complete record in LOTW that I can log into and view anytime I want to consult my log (and have Internet access). Thanks, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi Mark- > For satellite QSOs, you need to enter BOTH xmit and receive bands, since they are different. > From the presentation: > "Logging QSOs made through the Amateur satellites is not much different than logging any other QSO on the air. > The standard QSO information - callsign, date, time, band and mode are logged. > But to receive proper credit for a satellite QSO, the log entry must also include the receive band, propagation mode ("satellite"), and the satellite name." > > Sean Kutzko > Amateur Radio KX9X > From: Mark Johns > To: "kx9x at yahoo.com" ; "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 8:41 PM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial > > > | The PowerPoint on LoTW advises logging and uploading the receive (downlink) band. When I did this, I was regularly chastised and told that the correct procedure was to designate the transmit (uplink) band. So which is correct? > -- > Mark D. Johns, K0MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA > EN43 > > > > At May 11, 2015, 14:09:00, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote:Hi all- > ARRL has provided a PowerPoint presentation on Logbook of The World focused on satellite operation in the ARRL Online Library. There is also an Intro to LoTW PowerPoint available. > Both may be found at www.arrl.org/library, in the PowerPoint area. > Sean Kutzko > Amateur Radio KX9X > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > | > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bryan at kl7cn.net Tue May 12 06:50:03 2015 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 23:50:03 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial In-Reply-To: <043001d08c60$8036f9e0$80a4eda0$@com> References: <1431391309.2941.YahooMailIosMobile@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2147212267.152949.1431398304563.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <043001d08c60$8036f9e0$80a4eda0$@com> Message-ID: It may not be required, but it sure it nice to have. My electronic logbook of choice is Ham Radio Deluxe, also known as HRD. HRD requires an awkward workflow to enter receive frequency and band. I will be glad when it does not. I suppose that is an editorial opinion. :) -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 On May 11, 2015, at 20:05, Gary Mayfield wrote: Receive band is not required. I have gotten credit for many a SAT QSO without it. 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:50 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial Sean, I'm not sure the receive band is a mandatory field, unless something recently changed. Many of us have been using a PDF file written by John Barber N5JB to get our satellite QSOs into Logbook of the World. It has been available from the ARRL web site for a long time: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf In this PDF, only 7 fields are listed as mandatory to make a valid satellite QSO record in LOTW: CALL QSO_DATE TIME_ON BAND MODE PROP_MODE SAT_NAME The SAT_NAME field must be one of the satellites named on the LOTW FAQ page: https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/frequently-asked-questions/#sats (By the way, who at ARRL should we ask to get Mir listed as a valid satellite? I've been e-mailing and filing help desk tickets, but nothing has ever been done with my requests) Optional fields that satellite QSOs could use include: FREQ BAND_RX FREQ_RX When I started to upload my satellite QSOs in 2011, I only used the 7 mandatory fields for my QSOs. I have since added the other 3 fields on QSOs I've uploaded for the past 4+ years, to have a more complete record in LOTW that I can log into and view anytime I want to consult my log (and have Internet access). Thanks, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi Mark- > For satellite QSOs, you need to enter BOTH xmit and receive bands, since they are different. > From the presentation: > "Logging QSOs made through the Amateur satellites is not much different than logging any other QSO on the air. > The standard QSO information - callsign, date, time, band and mode are logged. > But to receive proper credit for a satellite QSO, the log entry must also include the receive band, propagation mode ("satellite"), and the satellite name." > > Sean Kutzko > Amateur Radio KX9X > From: Mark Johns > To: "kx9x at yahoo.com" ; "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 8:41 PM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial > > > | The PowerPoint on LoTW advises logging and uploading the receive (downlink) band. When I did this, I was regularly chastised and told that the correct procedure was to designate the transmit (uplink) band. So which is correct? > -- > Mark D. Johns, K0MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA > EN43 > > > > At May 11, 2015, 14:09:00, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote:Hi all- > ARRL has provided a PowerPoint presentation on Logbook of The World focused on satellite operation in the ARRL Online Library. There is also an Intro to LoTW PowerPoint available. > Both may be found at www.arrl.org/library, in the PowerPoint area. > Sean Kutzko > Amateur Radio KX9X > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > | > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Tue May 12 11:33:44 2015 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 12:33:44 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Data Warehouse Maintenance Message-ID: Hi, Just a quick heads up that we will be taking the warehouse offline for about 20 minutes between 16:00 and 16:30 UTC 13th May 2015 to do some maintenence on the database. If this is goint to cause you a problem, please shout.. 73 Dave, G4DPZ From kx9x at yahoo.com Tue May 12 13:22:42 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 13:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <992456823.401288.1431436962643.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I just talked to Norm Fusaro, W3IZ, the ARRL LOTW Guy and author of the LoTW tutorials found in the ARRL Online Library. He said to include both bands, as it is a cross-band QSO. ?Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From: Bryan Green To: AMSAT-BB Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial It may not be required, but it sure it nice to have. My electronic logbook of choice is Ham Radio Deluxe, also known as HRD. HRD requires an awkward workflow to enter receive frequency and band. I will be glad when it does not. I suppose that is an editorial opinion. :) -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 On May 11, 2015, at 20:05, Gary Mayfield wrote: Receive band is not required.? I have gotten credit for many a SAT QSO without it. 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:50 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial Sean, I'm not sure the receive band is a mandatory field, unless something recently changed. Many of us have been using a PDF file written by John Barber N5JB to get our satellite QSOs into Logbook of the World. It has been available from the ARRL web site for a long time: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf In this PDF, only 7 fields are listed as mandatory to make a valid satellite QSO record in LOTW: CALL QSO_DATE TIME_ON BAND MODE PROP_MODE SAT_NAME The SAT_NAME field must be one of the satellites named on the LOTW FAQ page: https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/frequently-asked-questions/#sats (By the way, who at ARRL should we ask to get Mir listed as a valid satellite? I've been e-mailing and filing help desk tickets, but nothing has ever been done with my requests) Optional fields that satellite QSOs could use include: FREQ BAND_RX FREQ_RX When I started to upload my satellite QSOs in 2011, I only used the 7 mandatory fields for my QSOs. I have since added the other 3 fields on QSOs I've uploaded for the past 4+ years, to have a more complete record in LOTW that I can log into and view anytime I want to consult my log (and have Internet access). Thanks, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi Mark- > For satellite QSOs, you need to enter BOTH xmit and receive bands, since they are different. > From the presentation: > "Logging QSOs made through the Amateur satellites is not much different than logging any other QSO on the air. > The standard QSO information - callsign, date, time, band and mode are logged. > But to receive proper credit for a satellite QSO, the log entry must also include the receive band, propagation mode ("satellite"), and the satellite name." > > Sean Kutzko > Amateur Radio KX9X >? ? ? From: Mark Johns > To: "kx9x at yahoo.com" ; "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 8:41 PM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LOTW For Satellite Operators Tutorial > > > | The PowerPoint on LoTW advises logging and uploading the receive (downlink) band. When I did this, I was regularly chastised and told that the correct procedure was to designate the transmit (uplink) band. So which is correct? > -- > Mark D. Johns, K0MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA > EN43 > > > > At May 11, 2015, 14:09:00, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB wrote:Hi all- > ARRL has provided a PowerPoint presentation on Logbook of The World focused on satellite operation in the ARRL Online Library. There is also an Intro to LoTW PowerPoint available. > Both may be found at www.arrl.org/library, in the PowerPoint area. > Sean Kutzko > Amateur Radio KX9X > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From iz5xrc at gmail.com Tue May 12 14:48:39 2015 From: iz5xrc at gmail.com (Fabio Azzarello IZ5XRC) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 16:48:39 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] WinKeps - Smoothed Keps Message-ID: Hello, I was reading again: http://www.keplerian.com/AO-10.html at the bottom of the page there's a reference to "WinKeps" sw program. Does anybody know if this sw is still around? I'm interested in smoothing keplerians for tracking/decay predictions. Thanks. best 73 Fabio iz5xrc From clintbradford at mac.com Tue May 12 15:55:55 2015 From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 08:55:55 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] WinKeps - Smoothed Keps Message-ID: <9C90317A-4822-4EAA-B71B-8C398F1655D5@mac.com> I think the only programs he offers are on his page at ... http://www.keplerian.com/ Clint K6LCS From mccardelm at gmail.com Tue May 12 16:19:44 2015 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 12:19:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Events of Interest at This Year's Hamvention Message-ID: Folks, Here is a list of Educational, Technical and Space Related events happening at Dayton's Hamvention over the weekend. Just in the event you might run out of things to do. Make sure you visit the AMSAT Booth, Booths 433-435 and 444-446 (Both sides of the aisle). This would be a great time to join AMSAT in this "YEAR OF THE FOX" EMike AMSAT Dinner @ Tickets Tickets Pub & Eatery, 7 West Main Street, Fairborn, OH 45324 The sixth annual AMSAT (Radio Amateur Satellite Corp.) "Dinner at Tickets" party will be held Thursday at 1800 EDT at Tickets Pub & Eatery at 7 W. Main St, Fairborn, OH. Great selection of Greek and American food and great company! No program or speaker, just good conversation. Food can be ordered from the menu; drinks (beer, wine, sodas and iced tea) are available at the bar. Leave room for dessert; there's an in-house ice cream shop! Come as you are. Bring some friends and have a great time the night before Hamvention. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday 9:15-11:15 Room 1 TAPR Forum Moderator: Scotty Cowling, WA2DFI, past TAPR Director and past TAPR Vice President Speakers: Steve Bible, N7HPR, TAPR President Steve Ford, WB8IMY, QST Editor, Write for QST/QEX Bill Curtice, WA8APB, and Bob Dixon, W8ERD, Hamnet Mesh: Consider the Possibilities! High speed, digital, microwave mesh networks offer hams an exciting array of new communications possibilities supporting experimentation, remote sensing and control, and emergency communications. Mesh is the ultimate "experimenter's sandbox", serving as an ideal host for a wide variety of "maker" projects and applications. This presentation will introduce mesh, describing what it is, how it works, and how it's deployed. We will then address a variety of mesh applications, to include those hosted by Raspberry Pi and similar processors. Bryan Fields, W9CR, High Speed IP Radio A presentation on High-Speed IP radio with an emphasis on building regional highly available networks. Utilizing the same techniques which enable the Internet, Amateur Radio networks may be built; connecting projects to the Internet or other sites. These networks form a resilient backup to cable, DSL and phone commercial internet connections. Chris Testa, KD2BMH, Whitebox Project: New Charlie Prototype Come check out the third prototype of the Whitebox handheld SDR project. This is a software-defined transceiver that will be FCC-legal and can communicate using essentially any mode and protocol up to 1 MHz wide on frequencies between 50 and 1000 MHz. It pairs with your smartphone, and runs all Open Source Software on an embedded uClinux system. Mike Ossmann, Spectrum Monitoring with Software Defined Radio Many of the current crop of SDR platforms support a very wide range of operating frequencies covering more than a GHz of bandwidth, but most users of those platforms find themselves looking at waterfall displays showing a few MHz at most. Let's look at how we can use SDR to monitor activity over several GHz of spectrum and visualize the results over both short and long periods of time. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday 10:30-12:00 Room 3 Instructors' Forum Moderator: Carole Perry, WB2MGP The Instructors' Forum is designed to inform and share ideas with teachers, instructors and leaders of youth groups that incorporate Ham Radio in their programs with young adults. Speakers: EMike McCardel,KC8YLD, VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA, AMSAT Educational Outreach and New ARISS Proposal Guidelines An overview of educational outreach opportunities and activities available through AMSAT and its educational partners, including the ARRL and ARISS. Stan Reubenstein, WA6RNU, president emeritus of Radio Club of America and on the RCA Youth Activities Committee, International Efforts to Promote Youth in Ham Radio A discussion of the efforts in recruitment in different countries and motivations to keep young hams involved and engaged in radio. Ed Engleman, KG8CX, co-founder of Y.A.C.H.T. (Young Amateurs Communications Ham Team) program, Promoting Ham Radio to Youth in a Boys and Girls Club Setting and Creating and Maintaining Activity and Interest through an Echolink Youth Group and Net. All presenters will provide handouts for the audience members. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday 11:30-12:30 Room 1 APRS Speakers: Bob Bruninga, WB4APR, APRS Operating notes Byon Garrabrant, N6BG, Byonics Update Allen Lord, AF6OF, Microtrack Update Jason Rausch, KE4NYV, RPC Electronics Update Don Arnold, W6GPS, AVMAP G6 update Andrew Pavlin, KA2DDO, author of YAAC Bryan Hoyer, K7UDR, NW Digital Radio ------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday 12:15-2:15 Room 2 Balloon Sat Moderators: Bill Brown, WB8ELK, & Doug Loughmille, W5BL Speakers: Bill Brown, WB8ELK, Miniature Trackers and Long Duration Flights Gene Swiech, WB9COY, Arizona Near Space Research Ballooning Brian Tanner, Spaceport Indiana STEM Activities Keith Kaiser, WA0TJT, Jurassic Pigs and Other Adventures in High Altitude Ballooning, Part 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday 12:15-1:15 Room 3 Hams in Space Speakers: Randy Schulze, KD0HKD, and Eddy Paul, KY0F You don't need 100W of transmit power nor expensive antenna arrays to work the FM amateur satellites! Many hams already have the necessary equipment to "work the birds." The Hams in Space Presentation will walk you through ALL the steps needed to successfully work ham satellites. An emphasis of "Keep it Simple" and "Have Fun" is stressed throughout. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday 9:15-12 Room 2 2015 Youth Forum (Note: AMSAT will be presenting Gould's Getting Started guide the presenters and a couple more for the Youth Drawing at this event) Moderator: Carole Perry, WB2MGP Come show support and join the fun by attending this forum that showcases our young, talented hams. Bring kids with you to inspire them by seeing role models having fun and being creative in ham radio activities. Lots of surprise guests will be stopping by. We will be having fabulous door prizes for adults and youth who are in attendance. Speakers: Tyler Hammond, KD8UAY, 13 years old, Contesting for Elementary Students Abbigail Wilson, KF5BEW, 18 years old, and Kendra Wilson, KF5FYS, 16 years old, Youth and the Future of Ham Radio Sam Case, KG7HBY, 11 years old, The Friday Night QSO Party Jesse Shulins, KB1YNK, 17 years old, Pneumatic Mast Systems for the Radio Amateur Faith Hannah Lea, WA4BBC, 10 years old, and Zechariah Lea, WX4TVJ, 12 years old, Experiences in Antenna Selection, Construction, and Use for VHF Applications Cameron Thurston, N8CAM, 16 years old, Contesting with N3FJP Software Saturday 11:15-1:30 Room 5 ------------------------------------------------------------------ AMSAT Forum Moderator: Alan Biddle, WA4SCA Speakers: Barry Baines, WD4ASW, AMSAT-NA President, AMSAT Status Report will highlight recent activities within AMSAT and discuss some of the challenges, accomplishments, and exciting projects of the organization. Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, AMSAT-NA Vice President for Human Spaceflight, ARISS Report 2015 will discuss ARISS development & operations on the International Space Station. Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT-NA Engineering Vice President, AMSAT-NA Fox Satellite Program will discuss the upcoming launches of four Fox spacecraft and exciting new engineering developments. Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, AMSAT-NA Operations Vice President, AMSAT Satellite Operations will discuss current satellites, as well as those planned for launch in the next year. Tom Clark, K3IO, AMSAT-NA President Emeritus, AMSAT's Skunk Works will discuss some innovated R&D items for future spacecraft. EMike McCardel, KC8YLD, AMSAT-NA Educational Relations Vice President, Amateur Satellites, Education, and You! will discuss the resources and equipment which supports the educational goals of AMSAT-NA. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday 12-1 Room 3 Fast Scan ATV Moderator: Art Towslee, WA8RMC, Introduction and Wrap-Up Speakers: Gordon West, WB6NOA, Life After the P.C. Analog Tx/Rx Mel Whitten, K0PFX, Getting started in Digital Amateur Television Dr. Al Torres, KP4AQI, VSWR: Why It Does Not Mean As Much As You Think (For ATVers) Mike Collis, WA6SVT, ATV in Southern California, Overview ------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday 1:45-3:00 Room 5 ARRL Forum ARRL is honored to welcome NASA Astronaut Edward Michael "Mike" Fincke (Colonel, US Air Force, retired) as our guest to Hamvention. Mike holds an Amateur Radio license, call sign KE5AIT, and operated ham radio equipment from aboard the International Space Station as part of the Expedition 9 and 18 crews -- making radio contacts with students, teachers, and the general Amateur Radio community. In June 2004, Mike delighted many radio amateurs by making contacts during ARRL Field Day. Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of ARRL, the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), NASA, and other international space agencies and international Amateur Radio organizations around the world. This forum is sponsored by ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio. Special Guest Edward Michael "Mike" Fincke, KE5AIT - NASA Astronaut ARRL is honored to welcome NASA Astronaut Edward Michael "Mike" Fincke (Colonel, US Air Force, retired) as our guest to Hamvention (R). Mike holds an Amateur Radio license, call sign KE5AIT, and operated ham radio equipment from aboard the International Space Station as part of the Expedition 9 and 18 crews -- making radio contacts with students, teachers, and the general Amateur Radio community. In June 2004, Mike delighted many radio amateurs by making contacts during ARRL Field Day. Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of ARRL, the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), NASA, and other international space agencies and international Amateur Radio organizations around the world. You can meet and greet Mike in the ARRL exhibit area (times and locations will be posted). Mike has also been confirmed as a Hamvention (R) forum speaker ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sunday 10:30-11:30 Room 3 Engaging Youth in Ham Radio through Informal Education Opportunities (Note that ARRL's Teachers Institute is a close ally and partner of AMSAT Education) Moderator: Larry Kendall, K6NDL, Instructor, ARRL's Teachers Institute on Wireless Technology Larry Kendall, K6NDL, is an Instructor for ARRL's Teachers Institute on Wireless Technology (TI) -- an outreach program that sponsors professional development seminars for educators, motivating teachers and schools to use radio electronics and related technologies to inspire students studying Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM). Larry has been an educator and curriculum developer since 1981 and teaches middle school Technology and Robotics at Sitting Bull Academy in Apple Valley, California. Before becoming a TI Instructor, Larry participated in ARRL's TI-1, TI-2: Space in the Classroom, and TI-2: Remote Sensing workshops. Larry will share some best practices and resources, including experiences from participating in Scouting's Jamboree on the Air (JOTA) through his involvement as a board member of the Victor Valley Amateur Radio Club. This forum is sponsored by ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio. ------------------------------------------------------------------ AMSAT: Amateur Satellite Demonstrations Fri, May 15,and May 16 Sat 9am - 4pm Sun, May 17, 9am - 11am Hara Arena Conference & Exhibition Center Door 1 Description Amateur Satellite operation demonstrations will be held outside the Ball Arena entrance. AMSAT will be demonstrating actual contacts with the operational amateur satellites every day. We especially want to invite youth to make a contact via an amateur satellite. All are invited to observe, participate and ask questions. Satellite pass times will be posted at the AMSAT booth (433-435, 444- 446) and in the demo area. ------------------------------------------------------------------ AMSAT/TAPR Banquet Fri, May 15, 6:30pm - 9:00pm Kohler Presidential Banquet Center, 4572 Presidential Way, Kettering, OH 45429 TICKETS MUST BE PURCHASED IN ADVANCE FROM AMSAT STORE The ninth annual AMSAT/TAPR Banquet will be held on Friday night, May 15, at 1830 EDT. This dinner is always a highlight of the AMSAT (Radio Amateur Satellite Corp.) and TAPR (Tucson Amateur Packet Radio) activities during the Dayton Hamvention. This year's speaker will be Michael Ossmann, AD0NR, "Adventures of a Hacker Turned Ham" Michael Ossmann, AD0NR, grew up as a computer nerd embracing the hacker ethos. Eventually Michael became very interested in the security of wireless systems such as remote keyless entry, garage door openers, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth. He designed Ubertooth One, a Bluetooth sniffer that was successfully funded on Kickstarter. Not one to rest, Michael later designed and successfully funded HackRF One, an open source SDR platform that attracted the attention of the amateur radio community. Michael will talk about his unique perspective on the community as an outsider looking in, why he resisted getting a license for years, and why he finally decided to join. Michael will also share his thoughts on what it means to be a hacker, what it means to be a ham, and what amateur radio may look like in the decades to come. Tickets ($35 each) must be purchased online in advance on the AMSAT website at www.amsat.org through the AMSAT Store tab. Tickets will not be sold at the Hamvention or at the door. Tickets purchased online may be collected at the AMSAT booth (433-435, 444-446). The Banquet will take place at the Kohler Presidential Banquet Center, 4572 Presidential Way, Kettering, OH 45429 (just south of Dayton). The cash bar will open at 1830 EDT, with the dinner commencing around 1900 EDT. ------------------------------------------------------------------ SPACE FEST Visit the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force on May 15-16 for a multitude of exciting space-related activities! The museum and a number of partner organizations will offer hands-on activities for all ages, including special appearances by astronauts, a 5K fun run/walk and 1-mile kids' race, a star-gaze with telescopes, a chance to see the museum's Space Shuttle Exhibit, model rocket building and launching, and much more. Admission to most activities is FREE! More information, including a detailed schedule is available at www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/ spacefest.asp. E. Michael McCardel, KC8YLD V.P. for Educational Relations, AMSAT-NA Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 From wageners at gmail.com Tue May 12 17:06:09 2015 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 12:06:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Events of Interest at This Year's Hamvention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Very impressive! Stefan On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:19 AM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: > Folks, > > Here is a list of Educational, Technical and Space Related events > happening at Dayton's Hamvention over the weekend. Just in the event > you might run out of things to do. > > Make sure you visit the AMSAT Booth, Booths 433-435 and 444-446 (Both > sides of the aisle). > > This would be a great time to join AMSAT in this "YEAR OF THE FOX" > > EMike > > AMSAT Dinner @ Tickets > Tickets Pub & Eatery, 7 West Main Street, Fairborn, OH 45324 > > The sixth annual AMSAT (Radio Amateur Satellite Corp.) "Dinner at > Tickets" party will be held Thursday at 1800 EDT at Tickets Pub & > Eatery at 7 W. Main St, Fairborn, OH. Great selection of Greek and > American food and great company! No program or speaker, just good > conversation. Food can be ordered from the menu; drinks (beer, wine, > sodas and iced tea) are available at the bar. Leave room for dessert; > there's an in-house ice cream shop! Come as you are. Bring some > friends and have a great time the night before Hamvention. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Friday 9:15-11:15 Room 1 > > TAPR Forum > > Moderator: Scotty Cowling, WA2DFI, past TAPR Director and past TAPR > Vice President > Speakers: Steve Bible, N7HPR, TAPR President Steve Ford, WB8IMY, QST > Editor, Write for QST/QEX > > Bill Curtice, WA8APB, and Bob Dixon, W8ERD, Hamnet Mesh: Consider the > Possibilities! High speed, digital, microwave mesh networks offer hams > an exciting array of new communications possibilities supporting > experimentation, remote sensing and control, and emergency > communications. Mesh is the ultimate "experimenter's sandbox", serving > as an ideal host for a wide variety of "maker" projects and > applications. This presentation will introduce mesh, describing what > it is, how it works, and how it's deployed. We will then address a > variety of mesh applications, to include those hosted by Raspberry Pi > and similar processors. > > Bryan Fields, W9CR, High Speed IP Radio A presentation on High-Speed > IP radio with an emphasis on building regional highly available > networks. Utilizing the same techniques which enable the Internet, > Amateur Radio networks may be built; connecting projects to the > Internet or other sites. These networks form a resilient backup to > cable, DSL and phone commercial internet connections. > > Chris Testa, KD2BMH, Whitebox Project: New Charlie Prototype Come > check out the third prototype of the Whitebox handheld SDR project. > This is a software-defined transceiver that will be FCC-legal and can > communicate using essentially any mode and protocol up to 1 MHz wide > on frequencies between 50 and 1000 MHz. It pairs with your smartphone, > and runs all Open Source Software on an embedded uClinux system. > > Mike Ossmann, Spectrum Monitoring with Software Defined Radio Many of > the current crop of SDR platforms support a very wide range of > operating frequencies covering more than a GHz of bandwidth, but most > users of those platforms find themselves looking at waterfall displays > showing a few MHz at most. Let's look at how we can use SDR to monitor > activity over several GHz of spectrum and visualize the results over > both short and long periods of time. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Friday 10:30-12:00 Room 3 > > Instructors' Forum > > Moderator: Carole Perry, WB2MGP The Instructors' Forum is designed to > inform and share ideas with teachers, instructors and leaders of youth > groups that incorporate Ham Radio in their programs with young adults. > > Speakers: EMike McCardel,KC8YLD, VP for Educational Relations > AMSAT-NA, AMSAT Educational Outreach and New ARISS Proposal Guidelines > An overview of educational outreach opportunities and activities > available through AMSAT and its educational partners, including the > ARRL and ARISS. > > Stan Reubenstein, WA6RNU, president emeritus of Radio Club of America > and on the RCA Youth Activities Committee, International Efforts to > Promote Youth in Ham Radio A discussion of the efforts in recruitment > in different countries and motivations to keep young hams involved and > engaged in radio. > > Ed Engleman, KG8CX, co-founder of Y.A.C.H.T. (Young Amateurs > Communications Ham Team) program, Promoting Ham Radio to Youth in a > Boys and Girls Club Setting and Creating and Maintaining Activity and > Interest through an Echolink Youth Group and Net. All presenters will > provide handouts for the audience members. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Friday 11:30-12:30 Room 1 > > APRS > > Speakers: Bob Bruninga, WB4APR, APRS Operating notes > Byon Garrabrant, N6BG, Byonics Update > Allen Lord, AF6OF, Microtrack Update > Jason Rausch, KE4NYV, RPC Electronics Update > Don Arnold, W6GPS, AVMAP G6 update > Andrew Pavlin, KA2DDO, author of YAAC > Bryan Hoyer, K7UDR, NW Digital Radio > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Friday 12:15-2:15 Room 2 > > Balloon Sat > > Moderators: Bill Brown, WB8ELK, & Doug Loughmille, W5BL > Speakers: Bill Brown, WB8ELK, Miniature Trackers and Long Duration Flights > Gene Swiech, WB9COY, Arizona Near Space Research Ballooning Brian > Tanner, Spaceport Indiana STEM Activities > Keith Kaiser, WA0TJT, Jurassic Pigs and Other Adventures in High > Altitude Ballooning, Part 2 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Friday 12:15-1:15 Room 3 > > Hams in Space Speakers: > > Randy Schulze, KD0HKD, and Eddy Paul, KY0F > > You don't need 100W of transmit power nor expensive antenna arrays to > work the FM amateur satellites! Many hams already have the necessary > equipment to "work the birds." The Hams in Space Presentation will > walk you through ALL the steps needed to successfully work ham > satellites. An emphasis of "Keep it Simple" and "Have Fun" is stressed > throughout. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Saturday 9:15-12 Room 2 > > 2015 Youth Forum > > (Note: AMSAT will be presenting Gould's Getting Started guide the > presenters and a couple more for the Youth Drawing at this event) > > Moderator: Carole Perry, WB2MGP Come show support and join the fun by > attending this forum that showcases our young, talented hams. Bring > kids with you to inspire them by seeing role models having fun and > being creative in ham radio activities. Lots of surprise guests will > be stopping by. We will be having fabulous door prizes for adults and > youth who are in attendance. > Speakers: > Tyler Hammond, KD8UAY, 13 years old, Contesting for Elementary Students > > Abbigail Wilson, KF5BEW, 18 years old, and Kendra Wilson, KF5FYS, 16 > years old, Youth and the Future of Ham Radio > > Sam Case, KG7HBY, 11 years old, The Friday Night QSO Party > > Jesse Shulins, KB1YNK, 17 years old, Pneumatic Mast Systems for the > Radio Amateur > > Faith Hannah Lea, WA4BBC, 10 years old, and Zechariah Lea, WX4TVJ, 12 > years old, Experiences in Antenna Selection, Construction, and Use for > VHF Applications > > Cameron Thurston, N8CAM, 16 years old, Contesting with N3FJP Software > Saturday 11:15-1:30 Room 5 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > AMSAT Forum > > Moderator: Alan Biddle, WA4SCA > Speakers: > > Barry Baines, WD4ASW, AMSAT-NA President, AMSAT Status Report will > highlight recent activities within AMSAT and discuss some of the > challenges, accomplishments, and exciting projects of the > organization. > > Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, AMSAT-NA Vice President for Human Spaceflight, > ARISS Report 2015 will discuss ARISS development & operations on the > International Space Station. > > Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT-NA Engineering Vice President, AMSAT-NA Fox > Satellite Program will discuss the upcoming launches of four Fox > spacecraft and exciting new engineering developments. > > Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, AMSAT-NA Operations Vice President, AMSAT > Satellite Operations will discuss current satellites, as well as those > planned for launch in the next year. > > Tom Clark, K3IO, AMSAT-NA President Emeritus, AMSAT's Skunk Works will > discuss some innovated R&D items for future spacecraft. > > EMike McCardel, KC8YLD, AMSAT-NA Educational Relations Vice President, > Amateur Satellites, Education, and You! will discuss the resources and > equipment which supports the educational goals of AMSAT-NA. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Saturday 12-1 Room 3 > > Fast Scan ATV > > Moderator: Art Towslee, WA8RMC, Introduction and Wrap-Up > Speakers: > Gordon West, WB6NOA, Life After the P.C. Analog Tx/Rx > > Mel Whitten, K0PFX, Getting started in Digital Amateur Television > > Dr. Al Torres, KP4AQI, VSWR: Why It Does Not Mean As Much As You Think > (For ATVers) > > Mike Collis, WA6SVT, ATV in Southern California, Overview > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Saturday 1:45-3:00 Room 5 > > ARRL Forum ARRL is honored to welcome NASA Astronaut Edward Michael > "Mike" Fincke (Colonel, US Air Force, retired) as our guest to > Hamvention. > > Mike holds an Amateur Radio license, call sign KE5AIT, and operated > ham radio equipment from aboard the International Space Station as > part of the Expedition 9 and 18 crews -- making radio contacts with > students, teachers, and the general Amateur Radio community. In June > 2004, Mike delighted many radio amateurs by making contacts during > ARRL Field Day. Amateur Radio on the International Space Station > (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of ARRL, the Radio Amateur Satellite > Corporation (AMSAT), NASA, and other international space agencies and > international Amateur Radio organizations around the world. This forum > is sponsored by ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio. > > Special Guest Edward Michael "Mike" Fincke, KE5AIT - NASA Astronaut > ARRL is honored to welcome NASA Astronaut Edward Michael "Mike" Fincke > (Colonel, US Air Force, retired) as our guest to Hamvention (R). Mike > holds an Amateur Radio license, call sign KE5AIT, and operated ham > radio equipment from aboard the International Space Station as part of > the Expedition 9 and 18 crews -- making radio contacts with students, > teachers, and the general Amateur Radio community. In June 2004, Mike > delighted many radio amateurs by making contacts during ARRL Field > Day. Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a > cooperative venture of ARRL, the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation > (AMSAT), NASA, and other international space agencies and > international Amateur Radio organizations around the world. You can > meet and greet Mike in the ARRL exhibit area (times and locations will > be posted). Mike has also been confirmed as a Hamvention (R) forum > speaker > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Sunday 10:30-11:30 Room 3 > > Engaging Youth in Ham Radio through Informal Education Opportunities > > (Note that ARRL's Teachers Institute is a close ally and partner of > AMSAT Education) > > Moderator: Larry Kendall, K6NDL, Instructor, ARRL's Teachers Institute > on Wireless Technology > Larry Kendall, K6NDL, is an Instructor for ARRL's Teachers Institute > on Wireless Technology (TI) -- an outreach program that sponsors > professional development seminars for educators, motivating teachers > and schools to use radio electronics and related technologies to > inspire students studying Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math > (STEM). Larry has been an educator and curriculum developer since 1981 > and teaches middle school Technology and Robotics at Sitting Bull > Academy in Apple Valley, California. Before becoming a TI Instructor, > Larry participated in ARRL's TI-1, TI-2: Space in the Classroom, and > TI-2: Remote Sensing workshops. Larry will share some best practices > and resources, including experiences from participating in Scouting's > Jamboree on the Air (JOTA) through his involvement as a board member > of the Victor Valley Amateur Radio Club. This forum is sponsored by > ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > AMSAT: Amateur Satellite Demonstrations > Fri, May 15,and May 16 > Sat 9am - 4pm > Sun, May 17, 9am - 11am > > Hara Arena Conference & Exhibition Center Door 1 Description Amateur > Satellite operation demonstrations will be held outside the Ball Arena > entrance. AMSAT will be demonstrating actual contacts with the > operational amateur satellites every day. We especially want to invite > youth to make a contact via an amateur satellite. All are invited to > observe, participate and ask questions. Satellite pass times will be > posted at the AMSAT booth (433-435, 444- 446) and in the demo area. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > AMSAT/TAPR Banquet Fri, May 15, 6:30pm - 9:00pm Kohler Presidential > Banquet Center, > 4572 Presidential Way, Kettering, OH 45429 > > TICKETS MUST BE PURCHASED IN ADVANCE FROM AMSAT STORE > > The ninth annual AMSAT/TAPR Banquet will be held on Friday night, May > 15, at 1830 EDT. This dinner is always a highlight of the AMSAT (Radio > Amateur Satellite Corp.) and TAPR (Tucson Amateur Packet Radio) > activities during the Dayton Hamvention. This year's speaker will be > Michael Ossmann, AD0NR, "Adventures of a Hacker Turned Ham" Michael > Ossmann, AD0NR, grew up as a computer nerd embracing the hacker ethos. > Eventually Michael became very interested in the security of wireless > systems such as remote keyless entry, garage door openers, Wi-Fi, and > Bluetooth. He designed Ubertooth One, a Bluetooth sniffer that was > successfully funded on Kickstarter. Not one to rest, Michael later > designed and successfully funded HackRF One, an open source SDR > platform that attracted the attention of the amateur radio community. > Michael will talk about his unique perspective on the community as an > outsider looking in, why he resisted getting a license for years, and > why he finally decided to join. Michael will also share his thoughts > on what it means to be a hacker, what it means to be a ham, and what > amateur radio may look like in the decades to come. Tickets ($35 each) > must be purchased online in advance on the AMSAT website at > www.amsat.org through the AMSAT Store tab. Tickets will not be sold at > the Hamvention or at the door. Tickets purchased online may be > collected at the AMSAT booth (433-435, 444-446). The Banquet will take > place at the Kohler Presidential Banquet Center, 4572 Presidential > Way, Kettering, OH 45429 (just south of Dayton). The cash bar will > open at 1830 EDT, with the dinner commencing around 1900 EDT. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > SPACE FEST > > Visit the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force on May 15-16 for a > multitude of exciting space-related activities! The museum and a > number of partner organizations will offer hands-on activities for all > ages, including special appearances by astronauts, a 5K fun run/walk > and 1-mile kids' race, a star-gaze with telescopes, a chance to see > the museum's Space Shuttle Exhibit, model rocket building and > launching, and much more. Admission to most activities is FREE! More > information, including a detailed schedule is available at > www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/ spacefest.asp. > > > > E. Michael McCardel, KC8YLD > V.P. for Educational Relations, AMSAT-NA > > Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? > http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Tue May 12 22:28:30 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 18:28:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Dayton Satellite Demos on Periscope Message-ID: Good evening, I plan to broadcast a few of the AMSAT satellite demos via Periscope. If you can't make it to Dayton, feel free to tune in and see the AMSAT demo station in action! Follow @PRStoetzer on Twitter and when the Periscope stream is live, a link to it will be tweeted (https://twitter.com/prstoetzer). I will try to remind everyone of specific passes that I will broadcast as we get closer to the date. This is, of course, dependent on adequate cell phone data service outside of Hara Arena. With that many people around, it may not be possible. Unfortunately, it will not be possible to livestream the AMSAT forum due to a lack of cell service inside the forum hall. I may also do Periscope streams of other things relevant to those interested in amateur satellites, so keep an eye on my Twitter account over the weekend. 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM From n8hm at arrl.net Wed May 13 00:04:33 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 20:04:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Periscope AO-73 Demo Tonight at 0155 UTC Message-ID: Good evening, As a test drive for Dayton, I will be demoing a pass of AO-73 tonight at 01:55 UTC via Periscope. Check my Twitter account (https://twitter.com/PRStoetzer) for the link about 5 minutes before the pass starts, or follow me on Periscope. This will be a short pass as the satellite will enter sunlight at 02:00:53 and the transponder will shut off. 73, Paul, N8HM From peter at peterkazakoff.ca Wed May 13 06:33:03 2015 From: peter at peterkazakoff.ca (Peter Kazakoff) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 23:33:03 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular or linear polarization for a cubesat - amateur preference? Message-ID: Hi folks, I'm currently working on finalizing the design of an undergraduate 3U cube satellite (ECOSat-II at the University of Victoria in Canada) which will retain some amateur satellite capabilities. The design won the Canadian Satellite Design Challenge (CSDC) in 2013, and the prize is a launch into a 600 km sun synchronous polar orbit, so it in all likelihood will actually fly. Current specifications are: - RX: 70cm amateur space band, < 1 dB noise figure, omnidirectional pattern - TX: 2m amateur space band, 2 watts maximum transmit power, omnidirectional pattern Supported modes: - Narrowband FM repeat - 40 kHz wide non-inverting linear transponder - 9600 baud DQPSK custom digital mode with forward error correction The satellite uses an SDR board with 200 kHz I-Q bandwidth that we've designed ourselves, so all the modes can run concurrently on the single communications system. The digital mode is something that we designed for our telemetry & control link, but we'll publish a specification so amateurs with SDRs can still play with anything that isn't critical for spacecraft operation (for example: amateurs can poll the status of various subsystems and read the telemetry files, but can't change the attitude control setpoint or update firmware). If there's time before launch we'll probably also implement some kind of message board service on this mode so amateurs can send store-and-forward text messages. Anyway, here's a SolidWorks render of the current design: http://on.fb.me/1cRkB4J. You can see that the satellite uses two dipole antennas, one for each band. The problem that I see with this is that amateurs are going to need circular polarized antennas for full-duplex transmission - as the antennas are mounted 90 degrees apart, pointing a linear Yagi at the satellite means that both linear polarizations can't be received at the same time. You can do it with a crossed Yagi (circular polarized) but at the expense of 3 dB of link margin in each direction. (This wasn't my design - it was designed before I joined the team). I'm considering trimming both dipoles down to half-wavelength for 70cm and then using them as a single turnstile antenna. I can then feed the antenna through a diplexer and 90 degree hybrid to give a circular pattern. I think this was unattractive before because the design was hard to model, but Keysight just gave us a copy of some pretty expensive high end RF design software and field simulators so I should be able to get it all working in software before building it. The advantage to this approach is that an amateur station on the ground can use a straightforward linear Yagi and only suffer 3dB of loss regardless of spacecraft orientation about the zenith-nadir axis. Amateur stations with crossed Yagis can get the full signal, provided they match the polarization and the satellite isn't tumbling. Thoughts? -- *Peter Kazakoff* ECOSat Communications Lead 4th Year Electrical Engineering Student University of Victoria *(250) 920 - 6870* From bruninga at usna.edu Wed May 13 13:09:15 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:09:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular or linear polarization for a cubesat - amateur preference? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15d3c05ea88e38d4d5efcb5e5240490f@mail.gmail.com> Regarding the antenna. The only stations that will see pure circular polarization are the ones directly below it, everyone else will see more and more linear . And stations are only directly below it (within 45 degrees) less than 5% of the total time in view. AND they see signasl that are 10 dB stronger, so circularity gains nothing. See: http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html The geopmetry of a LEO satellite pass is that the satellite is seen below 20 degrees to the horizon for more than 2/3rds of all pass times, so everyone is seeing mostly linear signals anyway. So it is not "circular" polarization you want, but "cross polarization". They are the same thing, but the reality is that you just want to make sure that both polarizations are covered since MOST of the time, MOST users are only going to be seeing MOSTly just one or the other. SO your antennas should not be two-monopoles out opposites sides of the spacecraft, but two 90 degree fed monopoles on a corner. This gives both polarizations. Besides two 1/4 wave monopoles fed on opposite edges of a 4" spacecraft are not really a dipole since they are not fed at the center of a half-wave dipole. There will be additional nulls compared to a free space dipole due to the 4" phasing separation of the monopoles. Take these last comments with a grain of salt, but that's what I feel is the reality of the situation. Model and compare. But the first part is what most people overlook.... that is, almost all (95%) of satellite operation is within 20 degrees of the horizon and most users then are always off to the SIDE of the spacecraft. Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Peter Kazakoff Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:33 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular or linear polarization for a cubesat - amateur preference? Hi folks, I'm currently working on finalizing the design of an undergraduate 3U cube satellite (ECOSat-II at the University of Victoria in Canada) which will retain some amateur satellite capabilities. The design won the Canadian Satellite Design Challenge (CSDC) in 2013, and the prize is a launch into a 600 km sun synchronous polar orbit, so it in all likelihood will actually fly. Current specifications are: - RX: 70cm amateur space band, < 1 dB noise figure, omnidirectional pattern - TX: 2m amateur space band, 2 watts maximum transmit power, omnidirectional pattern Supported modes: - Narrowband FM repeat - 40 kHz wide non-inverting linear transponder - 9600 baud DQPSK custom digital mode with forward error correction The satellite uses an SDR board with 200 kHz I-Q bandwidth that we've designed ourselves, so all the modes can run concurrently on the single communications system. The digital mode is something that we designed for our telemetry & control link, but we'll publish a specification so amateurs with SDRs can still play with anything that isn't critical for spacecraft operation (for example: amateurs can poll the status of various subsystems and read the telemetry files, but can't change the attitude control setpoint or update firmware). If there's time before launch we'll probably also implement some kind of message board service on this mode so amateurs can send store-and-forward text messages. Anyway, here's a SolidWorks render of the current design: http://on.fb.me/1cRkB4J. You can see that the satellite uses two dipole antennas, one for each band. The problem that I see with this is that amateurs are going to need circular polarized antennas for full-duplex transmission - as the antennas are mounted 90 degrees apart, pointing a linear Yagi at the satellite means that both linear polarizations can't be received at the same time. You can do it with a crossed Yagi (circular polarized) but at the expense of 3 dB of link margin in each direction. (This wasn't my design - it was designed before I joined the team). I'm considering trimming both dipoles down to half-wavelength for 70cm and then using them as a single turnstile antenna. I can then feed the antenna through a diplexer and 90 degree hybrid to give a circular pattern. I think this was unattractive before because the design was hard to model, but Keysight just gave us a copy of some pretty expensive high end RF design software and field simulators so I should be able to get it all working in software before building it. The advantage to this approach is that an amateur station on the ground can use a straightforward linear Yagi and only suffer 3dB of loss regardless of spacecraft orientation about the zenith-nadir axis. Amateur stations with crossed Yagis can get the full signal, provided they match the polarization and the satellite isn't tumbling. Thoughts? -- *Peter Kazakoff* ECOSat Communications Lead 4th Year Electrical Engineering Student University of Victoria *(250) 920 - 6870* _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wouterweg at gmail.com Wed May 13 14:43:10 2015 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 16:43:10 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular or linear polarization for a cubesat - amateur preference? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Peter, If you would like to estimate the signals of both configurations, you can also listen to existing satellites with certain antenna configurations that are already in orbit. Do you plan on stabilizing the satellite and if so, around which axis, or do you plan to do pointing? Its always difficult to select the correct antenna configuration based on all variables. I do not think there is a certain preference, but you can keep in mind that the majority of people entering the amateur satellite hobby will first try linear antennas. The top stations may have polarization switchable between LHCP, RHCP, and linear H/V or in case of X-configuration, not exactly H/V. If you want to get an idea of these signals, you can tune in to: - Delfi-C3 (DO-64), 1200bd BPSK, canted turnstile (circular) on 3U body, free tumbling in space (no fixed attitude) - FUNcube-1 (AO-73), 1200bd BPSK with FEC, double dipole config, free tumbling - FUNcube-2 on UKube, 1200bd BPSK with FEC, monopole on 3U body, stabilized - QB50p1 and p2 (EO-79 and EO-80), 1200bd BPSK AX.25, monopoles on 2U body, stabilized - Triton-1, 1200bd BPSK AX.25, monopole on 3U body, free tumbling There are other satellites, but I am naming these because I built radio hardware for all of them, and therefore know their configurations. Notes: * Delfi-C3 operates in sunlight only, and may not be on all the time * Ukube had the FUNcube-2 payload that is not always on. You can also try the main beacon 1200bps BPSK AX.25. * The FUNcube telemetrey downlink is always ON and provides a nice way to measure fading. The dashboard software also includes FEC error counts If you need any help finding frequencies, let me know. Wouter PA3WEG On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Peter Kazakoff wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm currently working on finalizing the design of an undergraduate 3U cube > satellite (ECOSat-II at the University of Victoria in Canada) which will > retain some amateur satellite capabilities. The design won the Canadian > Satellite Design Challenge (CSDC) in 2013, and the prize is a launch into a > 600 km sun synchronous polar orbit, so it in all likelihood will actually > fly. > > Current specifications are: > > - RX: 70cm amateur space band, < 1 dB noise figure, omnidirectional > pattern > - TX: 2m amateur space band, 2 watts maximum transmit power, > omnidirectional pattern > > Supported modes: > > - Narrowband FM repeat > - 40 kHz wide non-inverting linear transponder > - 9600 baud DQPSK custom digital mode with forward error correction > > The satellite uses an SDR board with 200 kHz I-Q bandwidth that we've > designed ourselves, so all the modes can run concurrently on the single > communications system. > > The digital mode is something that we designed for our telemetry & control > link, but we'll publish a specification so amateurs with SDRs can still > play with anything that isn't critical for spacecraft operation (for > example: amateurs can poll the status of various subsystems and read the > telemetry files, but can't change the attitude control setpoint or update > firmware). If there's time before launch we'll probably also implement some > kind of message board service on this mode so amateurs can send > store-and-forward text messages. > > Anyway, here's a SolidWorks render of the current design: > http://on.fb.me/1cRkB4J. > > You can see that the satellite uses two dipole antennas, one for each band. > The problem that I see with this is that amateurs are going to need > circular polarized antennas for full-duplex transmission - as the antennas > are mounted 90 degrees apart, pointing a linear Yagi at the satellite means > that both linear polarizations can't be received at the same time. You can > do it with a crossed Yagi (circular polarized) but at the expense of 3 dB > of link margin in each direction. (This wasn't my design - it was designed > before I joined the team). > > I'm considering trimming both dipoles down to half-wavelength for 70cm and > then using them as a single turnstile antenna. I can then feed the antenna > through a diplexer and 90 degree hybrid to give a circular pattern. I think > this was unattractive before because the design was hard to model, but > Keysight just gave us a copy of some pretty expensive high end RF design > software and field simulators so I should be able to get it all working in > software before building it. > > The advantage to this approach is that an amateur station on the ground can > use a straightforward linear Yagi and only suffer 3dB of loss regardless of > spacecraft orientation about the zenith-nadir axis. Amateur stations with > crossed Yagis can get the full signal, provided they match the polarization > and the satellite isn't tumbling. > > Thoughts? > > -- > *Peter Kazakoff* > ECOSat Communications Lead > 4th Year Electrical Engineering Student > University of Victoria > *(250) 920 - 6870* > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 13 17:28:39 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 17:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Sarah Brightman's ISS Mission Postponed Message-ID: <434385390.2261874.1431538119257.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Sarah Brightman ? Space Flight Postponed http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/13/sarah-brightman-space-flight-postponed/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK Flickr?https://flickr.com/groups/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK Yahoo Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FUNcube ---- From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Wed May 13 18:22:33 2015 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 18:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Need someone to call about Thursday AMSAT setup. Message-ID: <1653986563.1484366.1431541353295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I am at the Brookville KOA. ?I have equipment related to the display. ?I need to know what time setup starts. ?I also need to find transportation. ?Keith Pugh ?please call me at 847-514-8566 today. ?If anyone can give me Keith's cellphone, that will work also. From martha at amsat.org Wed May 13 21:32:39 2015 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 17:32:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed Message-ID: The AMSAT office will be closed until Tuesday, May 19th. I will be in Dayton! -- > 73- Martha (AMSAT's only employee) From f6htj at aol.com Wed May 13 21:39:47 2015 From: f6htj at aol.com (f6htj at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 17:39:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT847 satellite power output problem : solved In-Reply-To: <14d4cbe7df6-3175-24a27@webstg-m08.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <14d4f381fc6-69ad-24af9@webstg-m02.mail.aol.com> "Hello all; our F6KBR radio-club is almost ready to be active very soon via satellites with Yaesu FT847 rig but we have a big problem: no power output on SAT position. Everything else is OK, any mode... We tried full Reset (menu #39) but still same problem. Thanks for any help. 73 de Michel F6HTJ" Hello all; now all is OK. The problem came from ALC mod. I had to remove the final ALC 2009 mod (cut the wire) and it works on sat position. http://www.ok2kkw.com/00000104/ft847_alc_mod/alc_ft847_en_2.htm 73 de Michel F6HTJ Amsat #7409 Radio club F6KBR (JN12kq) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ingejack at cox.net Wed May 13 22:45:10 2015 From: ingejack at cox.net (ingejack at cox.net) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 15:45:10 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT847 satellite power output problem : solved In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20150513184510.UQSQU.293222.imail@eastrmwml304> Are you using Satpc32 ?? If yes then check your COM PORT in SATPC32... Also Baud rate should be 57600 for the FT847.. restart your SATPC32 and try the FT847 again ... I am using the FT847 and have no problems with my power out even if not using SATPC32.. Is your Microphone plugged in and tightened ?? I once could not get my FT847 to transmit due to a short in the Microphone plug.. That's all I can think of 73 JACK/KC7MG ---- f6htj--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > "Hello all; our F6KBR radio-club is almost ready to be active very soon via satellites with Yaesu FT847 rig but > we have a big problem: no power output on SAT position. Everything else is OK, any mode... > We tried full Reset (menu #39) but still same problem. > > Thanks for any help. > 73 de Michel F6HTJ" > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all; now all is OK. The problem came from ALC mod. > I had to remove the final ALC 2009 mod (cut the wire) and it works on sat position. > > http://www.ok2kkw.com/00000104/ft847_alc_mod/alc_ft847_en_2.htm > > 73 de Michel F6HTJ > Amsat #7409 > Radio club F6KBR (JN12kq) > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Thu May 14 23:50:59 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 18:50:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reminder: Cambi-Hams DXpedition to Mull Island is Active May 15-21 Message-ID: <000401d08ea0$d4518c10$7cf4a430$@net> Good evening, This news item will also run over the weekend in the ANS bulletins. We're leaking it a bit early in case some may be able to take advantage of the DX opportunity before the bulletins come out on Saturday ... Reminder: Cambi-Hams DXpedition to Mull Island is Active May 15-21 The Cambi-Hams group is going to activate Mull, Inner Hebrides (IOSA NH15, SCOTIA CN10, WW Loc. IO76EJ) from May 15 to 21. They plan to be active on 80-10m on SSB, CW, RTTY, and PSK; also on 6m, 4m, and 2m, and on satellites: AO-7 (Mode B), VO-52, FO-29, SO-50, and AO-73. The group also hopes for short trips to Iona (EU-008) and Treshnish Island (EU-108), see their website for updates on that. QSL via ClubLog OQRS or via bureau. http://dx.camb-hams.com/ [ANS thanks the DXNL Newsletter 1936 for May 13, 2015 for the above information] -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Fri May 15 06:33:38 2015 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 02:33:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Flex 6000 Series Control Surface and Display Message-ID: This unit, called the Maestro, will eventually enable unprecedented performance in SO2R with other offerings from Flex but also eventually unparalleled full duplex operation.. http://www.flexradio.com/amateur-products/flex-6000-signature-series/maestro/ -- Bob McGwier Co-Founder and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC Research Professor Virginia Tech Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) From jimlist at zoho.com Fri May 15 09:46:55 2015 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 10:46:55 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change In-Reply-To: <554DCF7F.6000206@zoho.com> References: <55282E67.7020104@zoho.com> <553AB7FC.9040508@zoho.com> <5543FCD1.8040305@zoho.com> <554DCF7F.6000206@zoho.com> Message-ID: <5555C08F.9060506@zoho.com> Hi All, Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 1040 UTC) been commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to autonomous mode on Sunday pm. Slightly earlier this weekend, to support demos at Dayton and DXpedition on Scottish Islands. See http://dx.camb-hams.com/ . Have FUN! 73 Jim G3WGM From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Fri May 15 20:58:45 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 20:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?Fox-1_September_=E2=80=93_Geo_Sat_on_5_and_1?= =?utf-8?q?0_GHz?= Message-ID: <744154193.889033.1431723525276.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> ARRL report on Dayton Hamvention - Fox-1 launch September ? Geo Sat on 5 and 10 GHz http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/15/fox-1-launch-sept-geo-5-10-ghz/ Iowa CubeSat students get ham radio licenses http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/14/iowa-cubesat-students-get-ham-radio-licenses/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK Flickr?https://flickr.com/groups/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK Yahoo Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FUNcube ---- From k9jkm at comcast.net Fri May 15 22:22:14 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 17:22:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-135 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - Fox-1 News From Dayton Message-ID: <007301d08f5d$98dd6100$ca982300$@net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN ANS-135 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Fox-1 News From Dayton * AMSAT FieldOps Team Fox-1 Operating Guide is Available SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-135.01 ANS-135 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin AMSAT News Service Bulletin 135.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. May 15, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-135.01 Fox-1 News From Dayton During the Dayton Hamvention, AMSAT Vice President Operations, Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, and AMSAT Vice President - Engineering Jerry Buxton, N0JY, provided more information about the Fox-1 satellites under development. Buxton, N0JY, says Fox-1A has passed all environmental testing and is integrated into the P-POD deployment canister. "The 'remove before flight pin' has been pulled, the doors closed on the P-POD, and everything is aboard the shipping container now en route to Vandenberg Air Force Base in California for launch", said Buxton. Previously Buxton had announced plans to incorporate an L band receiver in Fox-1C and Fox-1D. The addition will allow ground commanded selection of the U/v (normal Fox-1 bands) or the new L/v 1.2 GHz (23 cm) mode. Both bands will operate as FM single channel. (See: http://www.amsat.org/?p=4000) During the satellite operations segment of the AMSAT Forum Glasbrenner provided the details of the uplink and downlink frequencies for the Fox-1 FM cubesat fleet. Fox-1 Frequencies Uplink FM (67 Hz tone) Downlink FM Fox-1A 435.180 MHz 145.980 MHz RadFxSat/Fox-1B* 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz 145.920 MHz 1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz 145.880 MHz 1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz * Pending IARU Coordination, If needed, changes will be announced ** U/v and L/v operations switchable by command station, not operational simultaneously According to Buxton, the team is planning to have an affordable L band uplink ground station available to amateurs by the time Fox-1C is on orbit. + Fox-1A will launch on a NASA ELaNa flight scheduled during the third quarter, 2015 from Vandenberg AFB. Fox-1A is a passenger aboard this launch driven by the schedule of the primary payload. When updates are available with firm dates they will be announced via the ANS bulletins and in the AMSAT Journal. + Fox-1B will fly with the Vanderbilt University radiation experiments expected in 2016. + Fox-1C will launch on Spaceflight's maiden mission of the SHERPA multi-cubesat deployer on a SpaceX Falcon 9 flight planned for late 2015. + Fox-1D is a flight spare for Fox-1C. If not needed as a spare it will fly with the University of Iowa HERCI radiation mapping experiment. + Fox-1E "Evolution" will carry a Mode J linear transponder. The transponder is planned to be 30 kHz wide and will also have a 1200 bps BPSK telemetry beacon. Launch opportunities are being developed, to be announced at a later date. AMSAT has an immediate need to raise funds to cover both the launch contract and additional materials for construction and testing for Fox-1C. Please help us to continue to keep amateur radio in space. Donations may be made via the: + Paypal and credit card payment on the AMSAT website at http://www.amsat.org + Donation link in the AMSAT store: http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ + Call the AMSAT office at (888) 322-6728 [ANS thanks the AMSAT Engineering and AMSAT Operations Teams for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT FieldOps Team Fox-1 Operating Guide is Available AMSAT's Director of Field Operations, Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK, invites you to view and download the "Fox-1 Operating Guide" which was released at the 2015 Dayton Hamvention. This color PDF file is designed to print double-sided. Two different resolution versions are available: + Low resolution PDF suitable for on-screen display (~400 KB size) + High resolution, press quality PDF for hard-copy printing (~2 MB size) To access these files visit the AMSAT web and follow the path: http://www.amsat.org --> Satellite Info --> Station and Operating Hints. The direct link is http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144 where you'll find the link to the Guide. [ANS thanks the AMSAT FieldOps Team for the above information] /EX From ka8qcu at pasty.net Sat May 16 23:10:28 2015 From: ka8qcu at pasty.net (Doug Kuitula) Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:10:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Test Message-ID: <000c01d0902d$83158ca0$d359fb48@net> Sorry just a test. From wao at vfr.net Sun May 17 03:39:40 2015 From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier) Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 20:39:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-137 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <55580D7C.6040508@vfr.net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-137 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Fox-1 Development, Launch, and Frequency Coordination Status at Dayton * AMSAT FieldOps Team Fox-1 Operating Guide is Available * US Naval Academy CubeSat Launch to Include Next APRS Satellite * Iowa CubeSat students get ham radio licenses * Extreme DX satellite contact between UK and Texas * International Space Station Partners Adjust Spacecraft Schedule * AMSAT Events * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-137.01 ANS-137 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 137.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE May 17, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-137.01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fox-1 Development, Launch, and Frequency Coordination Status at Dayton AMSAT Dayton Hamvention Annoucements (Saved) During the AMSAT Forum at the Dayton Hamvention, AMSAT Vice President Operations, Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, and AMSAT Vice President ? Engineering Jerry Buxton, N0JY, provided more information about the Fox-1 satellites under development. Buxton, N0JY, says Fox-1A has passed all environmental testing and is integrated into the P-POD deployment canister. "The 'remove before flight pin' has been pulled, the doors closed on the P-POD, and everything is aboard the shipping container now en route to Vandenberg Air Force Base in California for launch", said Buxton. Previously Buxton had announced plans to incorporate an L band receiver in Fox- 1C and Fox-1D. The addition will allow ground commanded selection of the U/v (normal Fox-1 bands) or the new L/v 1.2 GHz (23 cm) mode. Both bands will operate as FM single channel. http://www.amsat.org/?p=4000 During the satellite operations segment of the AMSAT Forum Glasbrenner provided the details of the uplink and downlink frequencies for the Fox-1 FM cubesat fleet. Fox-1 Frequencies Uplink FM (67 Hz tone) Downlink FM Fox-1A 435.180 MHz 145.980 MHz RadFxSat/Fox-1B* 435.250 MHz 145.960 MHz Fox-1C* 435.300 MHz 145.920 MHz 1267.300 MHz ** 145.920 MHz Fox-1D* 435.350 MHz 145.880 MHz 1267.350 MHz ** 145.880 MHz * Pending IARU Coordination, If needed, changes will be announced ** U/v and L/v operations switchable by command station, not operational simultaneously According to Buxton, the team is planning to have an affordable L band uplink ground station available to amateurs by the time Fox-1C is on orbit. + Fox-1A will launch on a NASA ELaNa flight scheduled during the third quarter, 2015 from Vandenberg AFB. Fox-1A is a passenger aboard this launch driven by the schedule of the primary payload. When updates are available they will be announced via the ANS and in the AMSAT Journal. + Fox-1B will fly with the Vanderbilt University radiation experiments expected in 2016. + Fox-1C will launch on Spaceflight?s maiden mission of the SHERPA multi-cubesat deployer on a SpaceX Falcon 9 flight planned for late 2015. + Fox-1D is a flight spare for Fox-1C. If not needed as a spare it will fly with the University of Iowa HERCI radiation mapping experiment. + Fox-1E ?Evolution? will carry a Mode J linear transponder. The transponder is planned to be 30 kHz wide and will also have a 1200 bps BPSK telemetry beacon. Launch opportunities are being developed, to be announced at a later date. AMSAT has an immediate need to raise funds to cover both the launch contract and additional materials for construction and testing for Fox-1C. Please help us to continue to keep amateur radio in space. Donations may be made via the: + Paypal and credit card payment on the AMSAT website at http://www.amsat.org + Donation link in the AMSAT store: http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ + Call the AMSAT office at (888) 322-6728 [ANS thanks the AMSAT Engineering and AMSAT Operations Teams for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT FieldOps Team Fox-1 Operating Guide is Available AMSAT's Director of Field Operations, Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK, invites you to view and download the "Fox-1 Operating Guide" which was released at the 2015 Dayton Hamvention. This color PDF file is designed to print double-sided. Two different resolution versions are available: + Low resolution PDF suitable for on-screen display (~400 KB size) + High resolution, press quality PDF for hard-copy printing (~2 MB size) To access these files visit the AMSAT web and follow the path: http://www.amsat.org --> Satellite Info --> Station and Operating Hints. The direct link is http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144 where you'll find the link to the Guide. [ANS thanks the AMSAT FieldOps Team for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- US Naval Academy CubeSat Launch to Include Next APRS Satellite Sometime on or about May 20, the next US Naval Academy satellites and Brno University PSK31 transponders head into space from Cape Canaveral on an Atlas 5 launcher and into an approximately 50? orbit. The launch will include the Psat APRS satellite ? a pair of identical 1.5 U cubesats (A and B) ? as well as the BRICsat and USS Langley (Unix Space Server Langley) nanosatellites. ?Psat is a Naval Academy student satellite project named in honor of one of our graduates, Bradford Parkinson, of GPS fame, which contains an APRS transponder for relaying remote telemetry, sensor, and user data from remote users and Amateur Radio environmental experiments or other data sources back to Amateur Radio experimenters via a global network of Internet-linked ground stations,? explained APRS developer Bob Bruninga, WB4APR. In addition to the data transponder, a secondary Brno University transponder will support multi- user PSK31 text messaging. The APRS downlink will be 145.825 MHz (1200 baud AX.25 APRS). ?We welcome radio amateurs worldwide to tune into the downlinks and either IGate packets into the global APRS-IS system or to e-mail me,? Bruninga said. ?After launch, the next several orbits will be over USA and Europe.? Bruninga said PSAT, including the PSK31 transponder, would not be available for use until all on-orbit checks are complete, a process he said could take ?many, many days.? He also requested reports on any PSK31 (FM) heard on 435.350 MHz (the PSK31 uplink is 28.120 MHz). The PSK31 multi-user FDMA transponder experiment on Psat and BRICsat is similar to the one on RAFT and PCSAT2. It will allow messaging among up to 30 modest ground stations simultaneously, Bruninga said. Psat is one of five APRS-networked Amateur Radio satellites that will be in orbit during 2015, and all will appear on the live APRS downlink page. The others include PCsat-1, in orbit since 2001, QIKcom-1, set to launch in September, QIKcom-2, set to launch in December, and the ARISS packet radio system on board the International Space Station since 2007. BRICsat will carry a PSK31 transponder with a 28.120 MHz uplink (2.5 kHz bandwidth) and a UHF FM downlink on 435.350 MHz. Gunter?s Space Page describes USS Langley as ?a proof-of-concept mission for providing global Internet access via a nanosatellite constellation.? The satellite will act as a web server and router in space, using Internet Protocol and Linux. Downlinks 437.475 MHz (9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry) with uplink at 145.825 MHz. The IARU coordination page said that while 28.120 MHz is not in the band plan as a satellite frequency, ?the panel considered the motivation for this frequency as to give lower class license holders in the US the opportunity to participate in the project.? Bruninga said satellite experiments such as Psat ?serve our educational and outreach goals for student projects encouraging young people to be interested in Science, Technology, Engineering and Math.? He said he hopes other schools will build either additional 145.825 MHz relay satellites or experimental sensors. ?We hope that Psat will be the ?egg? in this chicken-egg conundrum,? he added. [ANS thanks ARRL Letter for 5/14/2015 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Iowa CubeSat students get ham radio licenses The University of Iowa reports its students will conduct a Van Allen radiation belt experiment with the AMSAT Fox CubeSat Thanks to a proposal by the UI Department of Physics and Astronomy, a group of senior electrical and computer engineering students will reenact James Van Allen?s original experiment ? this time with updated technology. Group members Kevin Klosterman KD9CPF, Bryan Senchuk KD9CPD, Tyler Dunkel KE0CHR, and Patrick Maloney KD9CPD took on the task as a part of their senior design project for the College of Engineering. The group is trying to figure out how much energy is emanating from the Van Allen belts at a specific altitude. To measure that, they?ve built a radiation sensor attached to a circuit board that will launch into space on a small satellite. There, the radiation sensor will detect energetic particles from the Van Allen belts. The satellite will sit in a low-Earth orbit and circle the globe every 90 minutes, some data will be transmitted in real time, but all of it is stored for later transmission. ?I feel like we?ve learned something new every day,? Klosterman says. Not only did the students have to come up with a design concept, write the code to run the device, and build the circuit board by hand, they also had to learn and become licensed ham radio operators as well. The satellite that the students are using to launch into space is part of the CubeSat program ? an initiative supported by NASA to help give students more hands-on experience with space research ? and is being constructed by AMSAT, the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation, whose mission is to foster amateur radio participation in space technology. The data from a full day of operating the experiment will be transmitted from the satellite as it makes a single pass over the CubeSat tracking station on top of Van Allen Hall. The final result will be a full mapping of the radiation levels at a low Earth orbit. It is hoped the Fox CubeSat with an FM voice transponder will be launched later this year. Read the full story at http://now.uiowa.edu/2015/05/seniors-reenact-van-allen-radiation-belt- experiments Each year 100?s of students are introduced to amateur radio through University CubeSat satellite programs with many going on to get their amateur license. AMSAT Fox http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=1113 [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA and University of Iowa for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Extreme DX satellite contact between UK and Texas On April 27, 2015 at 1901 GMT, Cuban radio amateur Hector Martinez W5CBF/CO6CBF achieved a 7537.8 km DX contact with UK amateur Peter Atkins G4DOL via FO-29. Hector reported, "I am pleased to report that Peter G4DOL and I had another extreme QSO on FO- 29. It is my furthest contact on the birds! Back on October 2013, Peter and I had a very nice contact between EL92sd, Cienfuegos, Cuba and IO80so, Weymouth area, UK. It was a 7286 km contact and probably the first contact between UK and Cuba on FO-29! Peter and I desired to try again on FO-29, this time between EM21hs, Texas, US and his habitual spot in IO80so. We were able to complete a very nice CW contact on the 92319 orbit of FO-29. Peter had just 0.1 degree as maxim elevation while I had 0.8 during the 80 seconds mutual window. As before, Peter did all the hard work by driving until his habitual spot at a cliff-top and setting up his ?portable satellite station? (19 elements Yagi for 435 MHz and 10 elements Yagi for 145 MHz both with horizontal polarization). FO- 29 was sounding really good on these orbits. It was a solid 559 satellite contact, we were very impressed. We made the calculations using our 10 digit grid squares at http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html The distance between the stations was 7537.799 km (4683.77 mi). To my knowledge, the longest distance achieved on FO-29 until now had been 7,533.685 km between Frank, K4FEG and Erich, DK1TB http://www.qrz.com/db/k4feg UPDATE 2015-05-08: K4KEG has now revised his distance to 7,538.685 km. This puts his contact with DK1TB just ahead of that of W5CBF and G4DOL. It appears that an even longer distance is achievable. It has been reported that FO-29 has a ?theoretical maximum range? of 7502 km, but I guess that at least 7600km is doable. We will try to break our own record! This contact was possible thanks to the great feature implemented on SatPC32 V12.8b. There is an option of seeing the frequency you are at the satellite receiver at any time during a pass. It allows the operators to tune the right frequencies and attempt a contact without having to search for each other. Thanks very much to Peter for his persistence, effort and all the fun!" 2013 FO-29 satellite contact between Cuba and the UK http://amsat-uk.org/2013/10/20/fo-29-satellite-contact-between-cuba-and-the-uk/ FO-29 information http://amsat-uk.org/satellites/two-way-comms-satellites/fuji-oscar-29-jas-2/ [ANS thanks Hector, W5CBF/CO6CBF and AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- International Space Station Partners Adjust Spacecraft Schedule NASA and its international partners agreed Tuesday to set a new schedule for spacecraft traffic to and from the International Space Station. The partner agencies agreed to adjust the schedule after hearing the Russian Federal Space Agency's (Roscosmos) preliminary findings on the recent loss of the Progress 59 cargo craft. The exact dates have not yet been established, but will be announced in the coming weeks. Roscosmos expects to provide an update about the Progress 59 investigation on Friday, May 22. The return to Earth for NASA's Terry Virts, ESA (European Space Agency) astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti and Russian cosmonaut Anton Shkaplerov now is targeted for early June. NASA astronaut Scott Kelly and Russian cosmonauts Mikhail Kornienko and Gennady Padalka will remain aboard the station to begin Expedition 44. The next Russian cargo craft, Progress 60, will launch in early July to deliver several tons of food, fuel and supplies. The space station has sufficient supplies to support crews until the fall of 2015. The Soyuz spacecraft carrying Expedition 44?s Kjell Lindgren of NASA, Oleg Kononenko of Roscosmos, and Kimiya Yui of the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency, will launch in late July from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. The date of SpaceX?s seventh resupply flight under its commercial resupply services contract with NASA still is under review but remains targeted for no earlier than June 19. The mission will deliver to station additional supplies and research that improve life on Earth and drive progress toward future space exploration. It also will deliver the first of two international docking adapters, which will enable future commercial crew vehicles to dock to the orbiting laboratory. Additional 2015 space station-related launch dates also are under review. NASA will continue to update the launch schedule online at: http://www.nasa.gov/launchschedule For more information about the International Space Station, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/station [ANS thanks NASA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Events Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around the country. Examples of these events are radio club meetings where AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations, forums, and/or demonstrations). *Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, May 15-17 2015, Dayton Hamvention in Dayton OH (Hara Arena) *Thursday, 21 May 2015 ? International Microwave Symposium 2015 in Phoenix AZ *Saturday, 6 June 2015 ? White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low AZ *Friday and Saturday, 12-13 June 2015 ? HAM-COM in Irving TX (west of Dallas) *Thursday, 9 July 2015 ? presentation for the Escondido Amateur Radio Society in Escondido CA *Friday and Saturday, 7-8 August 2015 ? Austin Summerfest in Austin TX *Saturday and Sunday, 22-23 August 2015 ? Boxboro Hamfest and ARRL New England Convention in Boxborough MA *Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, October 16-18 2015, AMSAT Symposium in Dayton OH (Dayton Crown Plaza) [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Upcoming ARISS Contacts It is unlikely that there will be any contacts with the Columbus module station until after a crew change, which will probably occur in late June or July. Watch http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled. **************************************************************************** Latest ARISS News * Gagarin from Outer Space: A contact was successful Thu 2015-05-07 at 08:30 UTC with Ryazan State Radio Technical University, Ryazan, Russia, direct via RK3SWB. The ISS callsign was RS?ISS, and the astronaut was Mikhail Korniyenko, RN3BF. * A contact was successful Sat 2015-05-09 08:20 UTC between Kursk, Russia, WWII veterans, direct via TBD. The ISS callsign was RS?ISS, and the astronaut was Gennady Padalka, RN3DT. * Contacts on Sat 2015-05-09 09:52:06 UTC 27 deg with Istituto Tecnico Industriale Statale ?Enrico Fermi,? Lucca, Italy, direct via IQ5LU, and with Studi di Firenze ? Dipartimento di Fisica e Astronomia, Sesto Fiorentino, Italy, direct via IQ5PO, were both successful. The ISS callsign was IR?ISS, and the astronaut was Samantha Cristoforetti IZ?UDF, who answered 22 questions. There were several hundred in attendance at both locations, along with newspaper and TV media. The event was streamed live on the Web. State Technical Industrial Institute is named for Enrico Fermi and is located in Lucca, Northern Tuscany. Five year courses are offered in Mechanics, Electrotechnics, Electronics, Information, and Communication Tecnology with several laboratories. There are about 700 students, aged 15 through 19. The school had an Amateur Radio Club with the callsign IK5YOI (license expired). [ANS thanks ARISS, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over * Reminder: Cambi-Hams DXpedition to Mull Island is Active May 15-21 The Cambi-Hams group is going to activate Mull, Inner Hebrides (IOSA NH15, SCOTIA CN10, WW Loc. IO76EJ) from May 15 to 21. They plan to be active on 80- 10m on SSB, CW, RTTY, and PSK; also on 6m, 4m, and 2m, and on satellites: AO-7 (Mode B), FO-29, SO-50, and AO-73. The group also hopes for short trips to Iona (EU-008) and Treshnish Island (EU-108), see their website for updates on that. QSL via ClubLog OQRS or via bureau. http://dx.camb-hams.com/ Watch AMSAT's Upcoming Satellite Operations page for late breaking news about DX and grid operations: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3921 [ANS thanks the DXNL Newsletter 1936 for May 13, 2015 for the above information] First all CW 73 on 73 Award Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, reports, "Congratulations to Hideo Kambayashi, JH3XCU, for working 73 different stations on AO-73 since September 1, 2014. Notably, he is the first to work all 73 different stations using CW." For more information on the award see http://amsat-uk.org/funcube/73-on-73-award/ AO-73 was launched on November 21, 2013 and is the first spacecraft to have a primary mission of educational outreach to schools and the smallest ever satellite to carry a linear (SSB/CW) transponder for radio amateurs. [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] New NASA Deputy Administrator is a Radio Ham Prof. Dava Newman KB1HIK was sworn in as NASA Deputy Administrator on May 15 from her MIT office. Her appointment had been confirmed by the U.S. Senate on April 27. NASA Administrator Charles Bolden (formerly KE4IQB) said, ?I am delighted with the Senate confirmation of Dr. Dava Newman to be the deputy administrator of NASA. The strong bipartisan support Dr. Newman received in the Senate is a reflection of her well-earned reputation and renown as a global leader in science and technology research and policy.? Newman is a professor of aeronautics and astronautics and of engineering systems. On the MIT faculty since 1993, she directs the Institute?s Technology and Policy Program and MIT Portugal Program, and is co-director of the Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics? Man Vehicle Laboratory. She is a Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences and Technology faculty member, and a Margaret McVicar Faculty Fellow. Her research has included modeling human performance in low and micro-gravity conditions, examining the dynamics and control of astronaut motion, and the development of assisted walking devices for the physically handicapped. Perhaps her most prominent project has been development of the BioSuit, a skintight spacesuit that would give astronauts unprecedented comfort and freedom in exploration of planetary surfaces and extra-vehicular activity. After accepting the confirmation, Newman said, ?It?s an enormous honor to serve at NASA in times when our country is extending humanity?s reach into space while strengthening American leadership here on Earth. I?m profoundly grateful to President Obama, the United States Senate, and Administrator Bolden ? along with everyone at MIT. I can?t wait to come aboard.? http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/16/new-nasa-deputy-administrator-is-a-radio-ham/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Joe Spier, K6WAO k6wao at amsat dot org -- -73 k6wao Joe Spier k6wao at amsat.net From artnm1a at gmail.com Sat May 16 22:13:24 2015 From: artnm1a at gmail.com (Art Charboneau) Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 18:13:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] QSO on FO-29 with Dayton Message-ID: <000301d09025$880c6dd0$98254970$@gmail.com> Hello All, This afternoon I worked a gentleman from the Dayton Hamvention running a demo on FO-29. I inadvertently neglected to write down the callsign, if anyone can help me out with the call it would be appreciated. The QSO was at 20:54Z on FO-29. 73 Art NM1A nm1a at arrl.net From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Mon May 18 04:41:26 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 00:41:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gamma match on Circular polarization antennas? Message-ID: <55596D76.7040402@frcuba.co.cu> Hi, I have read on numerous places that yaguis with gamma match must be avoided for circular polarization. But it's my case. I have access to cheap factory made 3 element yaguis for 2m with pretty good construction, and yes, it have gamma match. I plan to use two of them 1/2 lambda apart and 90 degree shifted on X (V/H) and feed them in order to get either RHCP or LHCP... Anyone has a real explanation of why I have to avoid gamma match for this? It's really so bad, pros, cons? Cheers to all. -- M.Sc. Pavel Milanes Costa, CO7WT SYSOP Nodo Gateway CO9JAZ Ciudad de Camag?ey, Camag?ey, Cuba. Cell: (+53) 53-847819 From rhyolite at leikhim.com Mon May 18 07:02:20 2015 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 03:02:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gamma match on Circular polarization antennas? Message-ID: <55598E7C.3040409@leikhim.com> The old Cushcraft 144-20T CP antenna (Part of AOP-1) used Gamma Match on both phased yagis, on a common boom. This wasn't the greatest antenna in the world, it suffered precipitation static discharge because of the Gamma Match being ungrounded, among other mechanical deficiencies. But it did seem to have acceptable circularity, good directivity and plenty of gain I suspect the problem may be in achieving identical phasing between antennas. A phasing problem will affect circularity. See tuning discussion in the archive: http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200107/msg00595.html -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim at Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Mon May 18 15:19:38 2015 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 10:19:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/VE2 - FN35 & FN26 Update Message-ID: I'm planning to operate the following passes from FN26 near Val-David, QC, Canada on Thursday, 21 May: SO-50 @ 17:55Z FO-29 @ 19:40Z FO-29 @ 21:27Z 73 Clayton W5PFG (/VE2 starting Wednesday evening) On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: > I'll be visiting Montreal, QC, Canada again in a couple of weeks. > Several individuals have asked me about operating satellites from grid > FN26. With those requests in mind, I will travel to FN26 for two > orbits of FO-29. I do not know the specific passes at this time. > > There are a few others who are looking to have FN35 confirmed. I will > post about those operations on Twitter @w5pfg shortly before and > during the US Memorial Day Weekend Holiday. > > Please email me off-BB if you are interested in the FN26 operation. > > Thank you, > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG From af5cc at fidmail.com Mon May 18 17:56:11 2015 From: af5cc at fidmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 12:56:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Diamond 70cm beam Message-ID: I have for sale a Diamond A430S15 15 element UHF beam. About 4 months old. Comes with box and manual as well. Still in great shape. You can read more about it here: http://www.diamondantenna.net/a430s15.html These sell new at Ham Radio Outlet for $90 plus shipping. I am asking $70 plus shipping or pickup in SW Oklahoma/Northern Texas. 73 John AF5CC From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon May 18 18:32:35 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 18:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] DN07 demand? Message-ID: <1377928831.11363055.1431973955188.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I will be in DN07 for a few days in mid July. Is there much demand for this square? If so I will attempt to accommodate. 73 Bob W7LRD From n8hm at arrl.net Mon May 18 18:34:08 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 14:34:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DN07 demand? In-Reply-To: <1377928831.11363055.1431973955188.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1377928831.11363055.1431973955188.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: I don't have it! 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > I will be in DN07 for a few days in mid July. Is there much demand for this square? If so I will attempt to accommodate. > 73 Bob W7LRD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gzook at yahoo.com Mon May 18 18:34:12 2015 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 18:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] For trade or possible sale UEK-3000 2400 MHz converter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <687125422.1594118.1431974052668.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I have a basically brand new SSB Electronics UEK-3000 receiving converter that converts 2400 MHz to 2404 MHz down to 144 MHz to 148 MHz. ?This converter is made to mount as close to the antenna as possible. ?That is, it is enclosed in a weatherproof case that has provisions for a "U" bolt to hold the converter to the antenna mast, tower, etc. The only Internet site that shows a price for these converters has right at 500 pounds which converts to a little over $780! I have never actually used this converter. ?However, I have verified that it is working properly using one of my HP signal generators that definitely covers the frequencies of the converter. The specification sheet, on the UEK-3000, is at: http://www.ssb.de/ssb/files/en-3018_uek_3000.pdf I am open to trades. ?Basically, I don't really need "anything"! ?However, one can definitely "tickle my fancy" with offers from boat anchors to modern equipment to components to antennas and so forth. ?As for a sale, remember, these don't come cheap brand new. ?Reasonable offers considered.?Glen, K9STH?AMSAT 239 / LM 463 Website: http://k9sth.net From skristof at etczone.com Mon May 18 19:05:56 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 15:05:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DN07 demand? In-Reply-To: References: <1377928831.11363055.1431973955188.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: I still need it. Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" To: "Bob- W7LRD" Cc: Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DN07 demand? >I don't have it! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: >> I will be in DN07 for a few days in mid July. Is there much demand for >> this square? If so I will attempt to accommodate. >> 73 Bob W7LRD >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon May 18 19:47:41 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 19:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 Message-ID: <659681956.11418454.1431978461504.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I received a good copy of EO-79 beacon, did not decode. From what I have found we will get to use the transponder in 2016. Can anyone with "higher" knowledge confirm this? 73 Bob W7LRD From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Mon May 18 19:54:34 2015 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 21:54:34 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 In-Reply-To: <659681956.11418454.1431978461504.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <659681956.11418454.1431978461504.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3ad05e97e5887242a0c9297e38902b69@vgnet.nl> Hi Bob, It could be that QB50p1 (EO-79) was using 2400 BPSK this afternoon. There is some analysing going on after the transponder test. The outcome will also tell something about the transponder operation in the feature. 73 Jan PE0SAT On 18-05-2015 21:47, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > I received a good copy of EO-79 beacon, did not decode. From what I > have found we will get to use the transponder in 2016. Can anyone with > "higher" knowledge confirm this? > 73 Bob W7LRD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ From gmcdanl at sbcglobal.net Tue May 19 19:50:37 2015 From: gmcdanl at sbcglobal.net (Gail A Mcdaniel) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 19:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] EM38 / EM37 Message-ID: <514190580.1099098.1432065037240.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Took a few days off and will be on SO-50 afternoon passes today and tomorrow (Tues&Wed) from EM38 ?Thursday I will work the afternoon passes from EM37 (Ha Ha Tonka State Park). ?Weather permitting... 73'sGail - KB0RZD? From bruninga at usna.edu Tue May 19 20:22:42 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 16:22:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Psat, BRICKsat,USS Langley Launch 16:00 UTC on 20 May Message-ID: <078716d0f67e5d10f4f094b21e8e41c8@mail.gmail.com> Updated PSAT Launch announcement: Launch window begins at 1600z 20 May 2015, from Florida into a 55 degree inclined orbit. We welcome radio amateurs worldwide to tune into the downlinks and either IGate packets into the global APRS-IS system or email to Bruninga at usna.edu. We expect first PSAT telemetry at 1839z over Sydney and New Zealand followed 1910z pass over the USA. For any launch delay, slide these times later. Launch can delay up to 2.5 hours or so. Operations via PSAT or PSK31 are not authorized until on-orbit checkout is complete (may take many,many days). Downlinks (one or more packets per minute): PSAT: 145.825 MHz 1200 baud AX.25 APRS ? http://aprs.org/psat.html BRICsat: 437.975 MHz 9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry USS Langley: 437.475 MHz 9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry PSK31: 435.350 MHz FM PSK31 telemetry Further info will be posted when available on the PSAT page above. Enjoy, Bob Bruninga, WB4APR - USNA Jin Kang, KB3UKS ? USNA Mirek Kasal, OK2AQ - Brno University Tomas Urbanec, OK2PNQ - Brno University Petr Vagner, OK2CPV - Brno University From 4x4hsc at gmail.com Tue May 19 20:22:54 2015 From: 4x4hsc at gmail.com (Herzliya Science Center) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 23:22:54 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT1 - first 'Compressed APRS' tests Message-ID: Hi all, DUCHIFAT1, the Israeli high school students 1U Cubesat is ready for first public tests. People with the ability to send Compressed APRS location packets are invited to join the tests. The satellite will collect these packets worldwide along its flight at 620km high orbit, and will downlink them from time to time over our ground station in Herzliya/Israel. Participants are kindly requested to register in advance in order to get their packet identified on the map. The packets successfully received will be displayed on a map in our Internet site and QSL cards will be sent via Bureau to the stations registered and recognized. (unfortunately, there is no way we can recognize packets from unregistered stations because the packet is limited to 14 character at the satellite, so we assign two unique characters to every registered station to enable us to identify them). Registration can be done at www.h-space-lab.org Also available in that site are operational information about the satellite, and the following documents: *Configuring TT4 Explanation.doc* - how to use the Byonics TinyTrak4 for generating Compressed APRS packets *Terms Of Use.doc* - terms and techniques for making the best use of the satellite There is also Ground station software available for download, written by our students around ISIS space Demodulator software. We hope many people will find it interesting and enjoyable, good luck! 73 from the Herzliya Science Center students and teachers From w9gb at icloud.com Wed May 20 00:13:05 2015 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 19:13:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail -- Request to ARS Ground Stations Message-ID: <638B61C9-5A4A-4FFD-88CA-3C287D9B7707@icloud.com> The Planetary Society : LightSail Mission Blog, by Jason Davis, Twitter: @jasonrdavis http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150518-lightsail-first-day-space.html We?re now able to release a timeline of events for LightSail?s first day in space. The chart on LightSail mission Page assumes a liftoff of 10:45 a.m. EDT, (14:45 UTC) at the start of the four-hour launch period. The actual window has not yet been released. We aren't sure when we'll hear from LightSail, but the first possible opportunity comes three hours, 14 minutes after liftoff (17:40 UTC). If you?re a member of the amateur radio community, YOU CAN HELP ! Our radio frequency is 437.435 MHz. Email me any data you collect from LightSail, including screenshots of the radio signal if you have them. I'll pass the information on to our engineering team, and we'll recognize your contribution on our blog. LightSail's automated telemetry chirps start after antenna deployment and continue throughout the mission. We?ll update our Mission Control Center to show the spacecraft?s current position, including pass predictions for your device?s current location (courtesy of N2YO.com). #LightSail telemetry info from our engineering team: 437.435 MHz, Encoding: FSK, Baud: 9600 bps, AX.25 ===== greg, w9gb ... send queries to jason davis or follow him on Twitter. Sent from iPad Air From amsat at n0jy.org Wed May 20 01:48:18 2015 From: amsat at n0jy.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 20:48:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Psat, BRICKsat, USS Langley Launch 16:00 UTC on 20 May In-Reply-To: <078716d0f67e5d10f4f094b21e8e41c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <078716d0f67e5d10f4f094b21e8e41c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <555BE7E2.3050809@n0jy.org> Good luck, fingers crossed, looking for you on the air tomorrow Bob! Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 5/19/2015 15:22, Robert Bruninga wrote: > Updated PSAT Launch announcement: > > > > Launch window begins at 1600z 20 May 2015, from Florida into a 55 degree > inclined orbit. We welcome radio amateurs worldwide to tune into the > downlinks and either IGate packets into the global APRS-IS system or email > to Bruninga at usna.edu. > > > > We expect first PSAT telemetry at 1839z over Sydney and New Zealand > followed 1910z pass over the USA. For any launch delay, slide these times > later. Launch can delay up to 2.5 hours or so. > > > > Operations via PSAT or PSK31 are not authorized until on-orbit checkout is > complete (may take many,many days). Downlinks (one or more packets per > minute): > > > > PSAT: 145.825 MHz 1200 baud AX.25 APRS ? > http://aprs.org/psat.html > > BRICsat: 437.975 MHz 9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry > > USS Langley: 437.475 MHz 9600 baud AX.25 packet telemetry > > PSK31: 435.350 MHz FM PSK31 telemetry > > > > Further info will be posted when available on the PSAT page above. > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Bob Bruninga, WB4APR - USNA > > Jin Kang, KB3UKS ? USNA > > Mirek Kasal, OK2AQ - Brno University > > Tomas Urbanec, OK2PNQ - Brno University > > Petr Vagner, OK2CPV - Brno University > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wageners at gmail.com Wed May 20 02:00:13 2015 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 07:00:13 +0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail -- Request to ARS Ground Stations In-Reply-To: <638B61C9-5A4A-4FFD-88CA-3C287D9B7707@icloud.com> References: <638B61C9-5A4A-4FFD-88CA-3C287D9B7707@icloud.com> Message-ID: Hi Greg, Is the telemetry decoding software or code available for us to see/decode the data and monitor the satellite? That would greatly help in getting amateur radio operator support worldwide. Good luck and 73, Stefan, VE4NSA On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Gregory Beat wrote: > The Planetary Society : LightSail Mission Blog, by Jason Davis, Twitter: > @jasonrdavis > > > http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150518-lightsail-first-day-space.html > > We?re now able to release a timeline of events for LightSail?s first day > in space. > > The chart on LightSail mission Page assumes a liftoff of 10:45 a.m. EDT, > (14:45 UTC) at the start of the four-hour launch period. The actual window > has not yet been released. > > We aren't sure when we'll hear from LightSail, but the first possible > opportunity comes three hours, 14 minutes after liftoff (17:40 UTC). > > If you?re a member of the amateur radio community, YOU CAN HELP ! Our > radio frequency is 437.435 MHz. Email me any data you collect from > LightSail, including screenshots of the radio signal if you have them. I'll > pass the information on to our engineering team, and we'll recognize your > contribution on our blog. > > LightSail's automated telemetry chirps start after antenna deployment and > continue throughout the mission. We?ll update our Mission Control Center to > show the spacecraft?s current position, including pass predictions for your > device?s current location (courtesy of N2YO.com). > > #LightSail telemetry info from our engineering team: > > 437.435 MHz, Encoding: FSK, Baud: 9600 bps, AX.25 > > ===== > greg, w9gb > ... send queries to jason davis or follow him on Twitter. > > Sent from iPad Air > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wouterweg at gmail.com Wed May 20 08:19:00 2015 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 10:19:00 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail -- Request to ARS Ground Stations In-Reply-To: References: <638B61C9-5A4A-4FFD-88CA-3C287D9B7707@icloud.com> Message-ID: Hi Stefan, > greg, w9gb > ... send queries to jason davis or follow him on Twitter. Have you also sent the query to Jason, and if he responded, can you let us know the outcome? I do not have twitter, and have not found any E-mail address in the post. Wouter PA3WEG On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Is the telemetry decoding software or code available for us to see/decode > the data and monitor the satellite? That would greatly help in getting > amateur radio operator support worldwide. > > Good luck and 73, > > Stefan, VE4NSA > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Gregory Beat wrote: > > > The Planetary Society : LightSail Mission Blog, by Jason Davis, Twitter: > > @jasonrdavis > > > > > > > http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150518-lightsail-first-day-space.html > > > > We?re now able to release a timeline of events for LightSail?s first day > > in space. > > > > The chart on LightSail mission Page assumes a liftoff of 10:45 a.m. EDT, > > (14:45 UTC) at the start of the four-hour launch period. The actual > window > > has not yet been released. > > > > We aren't sure when we'll hear from LightSail, but the first possible > > opportunity comes three hours, 14 minutes after liftoff (17:40 UTC). > > > > If you?re a member of the amateur radio community, YOU CAN HELP ! Our > > radio frequency is 437.435 MHz. Email me any data you collect from > > LightSail, including screenshots of the radio signal if you have them. > I'll > > pass the information on to our engineering team, and we'll recognize your > > contribution on our blog. > > > > LightSail's automated telemetry chirps start after antenna deployment and > > continue throughout the mission. We?ll update our Mission Control Center > to > > show the spacecraft?s current position, including pass predictions for > your > > device?s current location (courtesy of N2YO.com). > > > > #LightSail telemetry info from our engineering team: > > > > 437.435 MHz, Encoding: FSK, Baud: 9600 bps, AX.25 > > > > ===== > > greg, w9gb > > ... send queries to jason davis or follow him on Twitter. > > > > Sent from iPad Air > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 20 08:50:56 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 08:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail -- Request to ARS Ground Stations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1702265430.4199963.1432111856123.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Jason's contact details are at http://www.planetary.org/about/staff/jason-davis.html A video about LightSail with TV's Bill Nye the Science Guy along with KI6EPH and KJ6KSF can be seen at http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/20/lightsail-1-launch/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK ---- On Wednesday, 20 May 2015, 9:19, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: Hi Stefan, > greg, w9gb > ... send queries to jason davis or follow him on Twitter. Have you also sent the query to Jason, and if he responded, can you let us know the outcome? I do not have twitter, and have not found any E-mail address in the post. Wouter PA3WEG On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Is the telemetry decoding software or code available for us to see/decode > the data and monitor the satellite? That would greatly help in getting > amateur radio operator support worldwide. > > Good luck and 73, > > Stefan, VE4NSA > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Gregory Beat wrote: > > > The Planetary Society : LightSail Mission Blog, by Jason Davis, Twitter: > > @jasonrdavis > > > > > > > http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150518-lightsail-first-day-space.html > > > > We?re now able to release a timeline of events for LightSail?s first day > > in space. > > > > The chart on LightSail mission Page assumes a liftoff of 10:45 a.m. EDT, > > (14:45 UTC) at the start of the four-hour launch period. The actual > window > > has not yet been released. > > > > We aren't sure when we'll hear from LightSail, but the first possible > > opportunity comes three hours, 14 minutes after liftoff (17:40 UTC). > > > > If you?re a member of the amateur radio community, YOU CAN HELP ! Our > > radio frequency is 437.435 MHz. Email me any data you collect from > > LightSail, including screenshots of the radio signal if you have them. > I'll > > pass the information on to our engineering team, and we'll recognize your > > contribution on our blog. > > > > LightSail's automated telemetry chirps start after antenna deployment and > > continue throughout the mission. We?ll update our Mission Control Center > to > > show the spacecraft?s current position, including pass predictions for > your > > device?s current location (courtesy of N2YO.com). > > > > #LightSail telemetry info from our engineering team: > > > >? 437.435 MHz, Encoding: FSK, Baud: 9600 bps, AX.25 > > > > ===== > > greg, w9gb > > ... send queries to jason davis or follow him on Twitter. > > > > Sent from iPad Air > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Wed May 20 10:51:53 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 06:51:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 this morning? Message-ID: Was anyone on the 10:35 UTC pass of SO-50 this morning? I didn't hear a thing. I need to figure out if it's my rig, or the satellite, or if there just wasn't anybody else up talking this morning. Thank you! Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof at etczone.com From w9gb at icloud.com Wed May 20 11:34:33 2015 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 06:34:33 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail -- Request to ARS Ground Stations In-Reply-To: References: <638B61C9-5A4A-4FFD-88CA-3C287D9B7707@icloud.com> Message-ID: <2776125E-7B99-4147-87C5-FC32D4A35BC4@icloud.com> Stefan - No, but Jason passed your query to engineering team. Here is revision in Atlas 5 launch for LightSail (and X-37B/OTV), later this morning. -- @jasonrdavis: Good morning from Cape Canaveral! Today's launch windows have been announced: 11:05-11:15 a.m. and 12:42-12:52 p.m. EDT. #LightSail #AFSPC5 -- w9gb Sent from iPad Air > On May 19, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > Is the telemetry decoding software or code available for us to see/decode the data and monitor the satellite? That would greatly help in getting amateur radio operator support worldwide. > > Good luck and 73, > > Stefan, VE4NSA > >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Gregory Beat wrote: >> The Planetary Society : LightSail Mission Blog, by Jason Davis, Twitter: @jasonrdavis >> >> http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150518-lightsail-first-day-space.html >> >> We?re now able to release a timeline of events for LightSail?s first day in space. >> >> The chart on LightSail mission Page assumes a liftoff of 10:45 a.m. EDT, (14:45 UTC) at the start of the four-hour launch period. The actual window has not yet been released. >> >> We aren't sure when we'll hear from LightSail, but the first possible opportunity comes three hours, 14 minutes after liftoff (17:40 UTC). >> >> If you?re a member of the amateur radio community, YOU CAN HELP ! Our radio frequency is 437.435 MHz. Email me any data you collect from LightSail, including screenshots of the radio signal if you have them. I'll pass the information on to our engineering team, and we'll recognize your contribution on our blog. >> >> LightSail's automated telemetry chirps start after antenna deployment and continue throughout the mission. We?ll update our Mission Control Center to show the spacecraft?s current position, including pass predictions for your device?s current location (courtesy of N2YO.com). >> >> #LightSail telemetry info from our engineering team: >> >> 437.435 MHz, Encoding: FSK, Baud: 9600 bps, AX.25 >> >> ===== >> greg, w9gb >> ... send queries to jason davis or follow him on Twitter. >> >> Sent from iPad Air >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w1pa at hotmail.com Wed May 20 14:36:11 2015 From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill ACITO, W1PA) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 10:36:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 this morning? Message-ID: Steve, I was on that pass. I worked K8OE?, and I think one other station. I think I heard you as well. The last half of the the pass was quiet, just myself (I was dropping my call every 30 secs or so). I think I had to reset the timer myself, too. I have a log recording I can check at lunchtime. Bill W1PA From skristof at etczone.com Wed May 20 15:06:29 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 11:06:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Duchifat satellite software Message-ID: Has anyone had any luck with the software from the Herzelia Space Center for Duchifat? When the recent announcement came out I downloaded and unzipped the software, but it won't run. Some of the files seem to have a .GGG extension which is not recognized by my computer. Will any other software (MixW?) work instead? Any help would be very much appreciated! Thank you. Steve AI9IN From bruninga at usna.edu Wed May 20 15:13:52 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 11:13:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Launch Message-ID: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> Expect first PSAT pass over USA about 1414 EDT (1314 CDT.) Weak signal on 145.825 APRS packet coming from pacific, over Texas and across the North East. Also need to capture 9600 packets on 437.975 and 437.475 Email to lastname at usna.edu Bob Bruninga, WB4APR From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed May 20 15:25:52 2015 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 11:25:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Launch In-Reply-To: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Bob, Are there any keps or are we playing hide and seek? Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From wouterweg at gmail.com Wed May 20 15:31:27 2015 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:31:27 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Duchifat satellite software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Steve, I have noticed that as well. When I change the extensions from .GGG to .EXE, the program seems to start. It starts what looks like the ISIS demodulator demo APP, and also starts another EXE. On my machine, this fails. I am not sure what they have used to create the program. The ISIS demodulator is done in JAVA, but the launcher expects EXE files. Someone got any further? Wouter On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Steve Kristoff wrote: > Has anyone had any luck with the software from the Herzelia Space Center > for Duchifat? > When the recent announcement came out I downloaded and unzipped the > software, but it won't run. Some of the files seem to have a .GGG extension > which is not recognized by my computer. > Will any other software (MixW?) work instead? > Any help would be very much appreciated! > Thank you. > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bruninga at usna.edu Wed May 20 16:12:05 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 12:12:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Keps Message-ID: <367da97e39ed78282666a9625ed4310e@mail.gmail.com> For the Launch that occurred at 1504z, (11:04 EDT), These homemade elements are a start: EPOC: 05/20/2015 15:10 UTC MA: 47 MM: 15.155 Inc: 55.01 Ecc: .025 AP: 179.7 RAAN 000 First pass will be over the middle of the USA at 1417 EDT to 1437 EDT. With first signals available over California at 1117 PDT. PCSAT on 145.825 at 1200 baud (300 mW) BRICsat on 437.975 at 9600 baud Langley ohn 437.475 at 9600 baud Bob, WB4APR From skristof at etczone.com Wed May 20 16:24:54 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 12:24:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT1 - first 'Compressed APRS' tests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3947158ADCA84B7EBA5736F580306887@StevePC> I downloaded and unzipped the ground station software, but I can't get it to work, as my computer doesn't recognize the .GGG extension on the files. However, I can report that I did receive the Morse beacon "hi de Duchifat" at around 1616 UTC. QTH here is EM79ji. Steve Kristoff AI9IN PO Box 44 Oldenburg IN USA skristof @etczone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herzliya Science Center" <4x4hsc at gmail.com> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:22 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT1 - first 'Compressed APRS' tests > Hi all, > DUCHIFAT1, the Israeli high school students 1U Cubesat is ready for first > public tests. > People with the ability to send Compressed APRS location packets are > invited to join the tests. > The satellite will collect these packets worldwide along its flight at > 620km high orbit, and will downlink them from time to time over our ground > station in Herzliya/Israel. > Participants are kindly requested to register in advance in order to get > their packet identified on the map. > The packets successfully received will be displayed on a map in our > Internet site and QSL cards will be sent via Bureau to the stations > registered and recognized. (unfortunately, there is no way we can > recognize > packets from unregistered stations because the packet is limited to 14 > character at the satellite, so we assign two unique characters to every > registered station to enable us to identify them). > > Registration can be done at www.h-space-lab.org > > Also available in that site are operational information about the > satellite, and the following documents: > > *Configuring TT4 Explanation.doc* - how to use the Byonics TinyTrak4 for > generating Compressed APRS packets > > *Terms Of Use.doc* - terms and techniques for making the best use of the > satellite > > There is also Ground station software available for download, written by > our students around ISIS space Demodulator software. > > We hope many people will find it interesting and enjoyable, > > good luck! > 73 > from the Herzliya Science Center students and teachers > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From wa4sca at gmail.com Wed May 20 18:16:44 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 13:16:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Keps In-Reply-To: <367da97e39ed78282666a9625ed4310e@mail.gmail.com> References: <367da97e39ed78282666a9625ed4310e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701d09329$21003bb0$6300b310$@GMAIL.COM> I had to use a significantly different reference epoch, but these agree well with the AOS/LOS times that Bob gave. Use with caution as I was in a hurry and likely made errors: PSAT 1 99999U 20000 15140.00763889 .00000000 1 15 2 99999 55.0100 000.0000 0250000 179.7000 47.0000 15.15500000 19 Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Weak packet signals heard in EM79ji (Oldenburg IN) between 1822 and 1828 UTC. None of the packets were strong enough to be decoded (at least by my antenna/radio/interface/computer/software setup). On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > Expect first PSAT pass over USA about 1414 EDT (1314 CDT.) > > > > Weak signal on 145.825 APRS packet coming from pacific, over Texas and > across the North East. > > > > Also need to capture 9600 packets on 437.975 and 437.475 > > Email to lastname at usna.edu > > Bob Bruninga, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed May 20 18:35:22 2015 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:35:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Launch In-Reply-To: References: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm decoding packets now. I'll post shortly. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From james at wx4tv.com Wed May 20 18:36:29 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:36:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM87 Message-ID: I am working in West Virginia and have time to try to work the SO 50 pass in about a half an hour. If I can find a place that gives me a good view of the pass, I will activate the grid. Echo mike 87. James Lea ~WX4TV Sent from my iPhone From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed May 20 18:44:51 2015 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:44:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Launch In-Reply-To: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:31:14] Burn in 672 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:32:08] Burn in 616 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:32:21] Burn in 602 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:32:34] Burn in 588 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:33:01] Burn in 560 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:33:28] Burn in 532 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:33:42] Burn in 518 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:33:55] Burn in 504 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:33:59] T#038,886,079,625,744,788,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:34:08] Burn in 490 Fm W3ADO-13 To APRS Via PSAT-1*,SAFE* [14:34:14] Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:34:22] Burn in 476 Fm W3ADO-13 To APRS Via PSAT-1*,SAFE* [14:34:28] Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:34:35] Burn in 462 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:34:49] Burn in 448 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:35:29] Burn in 406 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:35:43] Burn in 392 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:35:56] Burn in 378 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:36:10] Burn in 364 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:37:01] T#041,875,075,619,718,785,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:37:04] Burn in 308 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:37:17] Burn in 294 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:37:31] Burn in 280 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:38:02] T#042,916,079,627,698,784,00011100 Dave-KB1PVH On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > Expect first PSAT pass over USA about 1414 EDT (1314 CDT.) > > > > Weak signal on 145.825 APRS packet coming from pacific, over Texas and > across the North East. > > > > Also need to capture 9600 packets on 437.975 and 437.475 > > Email to lastname at usna.edu > > Bob Bruninga, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Wed May 20 18:46:38 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:46:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM87 + FL11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <555CD68E.2040800@frcuba.co.cu> I will be on this pass too, A 90 degree pass for me this time, CO7WT at Florida Lima 11 73 El 20/05/15 a las 14:36, James Lea - WX4TV escibi?: > I am working in West Virginia and have time to try to work the SO 50 pass in about a half an hour. If I can find a place that gives me a good view of the pass, I will activate the grid. Echo mike 87. > > James Lea ~WX4TV > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wa7eth at frontier.com Wed May 20 18:53:29 2015 From: wa7eth at frontier.com (wa7eth at frontier.com) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 18:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT data Message-ID: <149172021.2896569.1432148009188.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The following data was copied here in CN88 on the 11:17 PDST pass.PSAT-1 audio level = 22??[NONE] [0] PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS:Burn in 1148<0x0d> Unknown message type B, Ambulance ? PSAT-1 audio level = 23??[SINGLE] [0] PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS:Burn in 1134<0x0d> Unknown message type B, Ambulance ? PSAT-1 audio level = 22??[NONE] [0] PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS:Burn in 1120<0x0d> Unknown message type B, Ambulance ? PSAT-1 audio level = 25??[NONE] [0] PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS:T#029,891,072,728,668,793,00011100 Telemetry analog values should be 3 digit integer values inrange of 000 to 255. ? Some applications might not interpret "891"properly. Telemetry analog values should be 3 digit integer values inrange of 000 to 255. ? Some applications might not interpret "728" properly. Telemetry analog values should be 3 digit integer values inrange of 000 to 255. ? Some applications might not interpret "668"properly. Telemetry analog values should be 3 digit integer values inrange of 000 to 255. ? Some applications might not interpret "793"properly. Telemetry, Ambulance Seq=29, A1=891, A2=72, A3=728, A4=668, A5=793, D1=0, D2=0,D3=0, D4=1, D5=1, D6= 1, D7=0, D8=0 ? PSAT-1 audio level = 28??[NONE] [0] PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS:Burn in 1064<0x0d> Unknown message type B, Ambulance .73'...Ed ?WA7ETH From bruninga at usna.edu Wed May 20 18:55:25 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:55:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Works! Message-ID: <29d5fc400a4590c656bbdf53d99629b1@mail.gmail.com> PSAT heard, two frames of telemetry. Command received. Multiple other burn-countdown packets were received till second burn attempt (though first burn worked or we wouldn?t have any antennas! So, TNC, RX and TX has been confirmed working. Won?t know about CPU until after 2nd Burn countdown next pass. USER ACCESS **NOT** authorized. Did not listen for PSK31 yet on 435.350 (both other UHF?s were listening for other spacecraft). T#039 and T#040 were the two telemetry?s received. So spacecraft had been operational for 39 minutes. That places activation at about 13:57 EDT over New Zealand (about 2 hours before sunup there). Bob, Wb4APR From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Wed May 20 19:07:56 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:07:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Launch In-Reply-To: References: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <555CDB8C.1060107@frcuba.co.cu> W3ADO-13, humm... I heard some packet here but I was thinking that was NO-44 and didn't try to listen decode, but both was Tx at the same time !!! Bad for me. El 20/05/15 a las 14:44, Dave Webb KB1PVH escibi?: > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:34:08] > Burn in 490 > > Fm W3ADO-13 To APRS Via PSAT-1*,SAFE* [14:34:14] > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:34:22] > Burn in 476 > > Fm W3ADO-13 To APRS Via PSAT-1*,SAFE* [14:34:28] > > From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Wed May 20 19:12:02 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:12:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Works! In-Reply-To: <29d5fc400a4590c656bbdf53d99629b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d5fc400a4590c656bbdf53d99629b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <555CDC82.7040804@frcuba.co.cu> Congratulation Robert, To you and all other people that work in this launch, hope to work this new birds. I can't wait to hear about PSK31 activation to the public for try it. 73 El 20/05/15 a las 14:55, Robert Bruninga escibi?: > PSAT heard, two frames of telemetry. Command received. Multiple other > burn-countdown packets were received till second burn attempt (though first > burn worked or we wouldn?t have any antennas! > > > > So, TNC, RX and TX has been confirmed working. Won?t know about CPU until > after 2nd Burn countdown next pass. > > > > USER ACCESS **NOT** authorized. > > > > Did not listen for PSK31 yet on 435.350 > > (both other UHF?s were listening for other spacecraft). > > > > T#039 and T#040 were the two telemetry?s received. So spacecraft had been > operational for 39 minutes. That places activation at about 13:57 EDT over > New Zealand (about 2 hours before sunup there). > > > > > > Bob, Wb4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Wed May 20 19:28:44 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:28:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM87 + FL11 In-Reply-To: <555CD68E.2040800@frcuba.co.cu> References: <555CD68E.2040800@frcuba.co.cu> Message-ID: <555CE06C.7030306@frcuba.co.cu> Hummm... Can anyone confirm that in some part of the pass I get trough the satellite? This is CO7WT suspecting a TX antenna problem... RX is Ok. I'm working half duplex with a homebrew crossed yagi and duplexer. 73 and thanks for the help in advance. El 20/05/15 a las 14:46, Pavel Milanes Costa escibi?: > I will be on this pass too, > > A 90 degree pass for me this time, > > CO7WT at Florida Lima 11 > > 73 From james at wx4tv.com Wed May 20 19:29:26 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:29:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM87 + FL11 In-Reply-To: <555CE06C.7030306@frcuba.co.cu> References: <555CD68E.2040800@frcuba.co.cu> <555CE06C.7030306@frcuba.co.cu> Message-ID: <9DD82EDD-F0A8-4712-AAD4-FC1CD97071FA@wx4tv.com> I didn't hear you, but I had the same problem. James Lea Sent from my iPhone On May 20, 2015, at 15:28, Pavel Milanes Costa wrote: Hummm... Can anyone confirm that in some part of the pass I get trough the satellite? This is CO7WT suspecting a TX antenna problem... RX is Ok. I'm working half duplex with a homebrew crossed yagi and duplexer. 73 and thanks for the help in advance. El 20/05/15 a las 14:46, Pavel Milanes Costa escibi?: > I will be on this pass too, > > A 90 degree pass for me this time, > > CO7WT at Florida Lima 11 > > 73 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Wed May 20 19:39:15 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:39:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Telemetry Message-ID: <53b9fbcc60b082799697623503aedec0@mail.gmail.com> When PSAT is in SAFE mode, the callsign is PSAT-1 and TOCALL is APOFF. The decode of PSAT-1 telemetry is as follows: T#038,886,079,625,744,788,00011100 038 Means 38th (1 minute) packet. 886 means 8.86 volts (8.4V is full charge) 079 means 79 mA system current 625 is +Z temp 744 is -Z temp 788 is Battery temp Decreasing Temperature counts mean warmer temps. Calibration for +Z/-Z are same, but for Battery is different. T#041,875,075,619,718,785,00011100 3 minutes later +Z/-Z are still warming and at greater rate than internal battery. For +/- Z, Count of 600 is about 30C. Count of 800 is about 0C. For Battery, count 700 is about 30C. Count of 840 is about 0C. Again, this second count-down to BURN is a second attempt to burn in case the first one failed. But since we hear it, then the antenna burn was successful and we need no more burn attempts. Bob, WB4APR Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:37:04] Burn in 308 From skristof at etczone.com Wed May 20 19:41:04 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:41:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM87 + FL11 In-Reply-To: <9DD82EDD-F0A8-4712-AAD4-FC1CD97071FA@wx4tv.com> References: <555CD68E.2040800@frcuba.co.cu> <555CE06C.7030306@frcuba.co.cu> <9DD82EDD-F0A8-4712-AAD4-FC1CD97071FA@wx4tv.com> Message-ID: Pavel, There is really no way to know unless someone answers your call. I have the same problem. Usually it's the same 6 people exchanging grid squares and the satellite sinks slowly over the horizon. All I can say is Good luck and Keep trying! I'll be listening for you and James. Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Lea - WX4TV" To: "Pavel Milanes Costa" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EM87 + FL11 >I didn't hear you, but I had the same problem. > > James Lea > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 20, 2015, at 15:28, Pavel Milanes Costa wrote: > > Hummm... > > Can anyone confirm that in some part of the pass I get trough the > satellite? > > This is CO7WT suspecting a TX antenna problem... RX is Ok. > > I'm working half duplex with a homebrew crossed yagi and duplexer. > > 73 and thanks for the help in advance. > > El 20/05/15 a las 14:46, Pavel Milanes Costa escibi?: >> I will be on this pass too, >> >> A 90 degree pass for me this time, >> >> CO7WT at Florida Lima 11 >> >> 73 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com ?A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived.? ? Frank Littig, Littig?s New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed May 20 20:23:31 2015 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 16:23:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Telemetry In-Reply-To: <53b9fbcc60b082799697623503aedec0@mail.gmail.com> References: <53b9fbcc60b082799697623503aedec0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Here are new packets. Times are UTC Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:10:51] s#000065,0z001 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:12:26] T#135,870,071,656,664,810,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:12:27] s#000066,0z001 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:13:27] T#136,894,070,655,662,809,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:14:05] s#000067,0z001 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:14:28] T#137,880,071,661,655,808,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:15:29] T#138,894,070,671,647,807,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:15:40] s#000068,0z001 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:15:48] Hi! Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:15:57] Hi! Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:16:30] T#139,903,085,689,640,806,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [20:17:31] T#140,839,366,710,639,805,00011100 Dave-KB1PVH On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > When PSAT is in SAFE mode, the callsign is PSAT-1 and TOCALL is APOFF. > > The decode of PSAT-1 telemetry is as follows: > > > > T#038,886,079,625,744,788,00011100 > > > > 038 Means 38th (1 minute) packet. > > 886 means 8.86 volts (8.4V is full charge) > > 079 means 79 mA system current > > 625 is +Z temp > > 744 is -Z temp > > 788 is Battery temp > > > > Decreasing Temperature counts mean warmer temps. Calibration for +Z/-Z are > same, but for Battery is different. > > > > T#041,875,075,619,718,785,00011100 > > > > 3 minutes later +Z/-Z are still warming and at greater rate than internal > battery. > > > > For +/- Z, Count of 600 is about 30C. Count of 800 is about 0C. > > For Battery, count 700 is about 30C. Count of 840 is about 0C. > > > > Again, this second count-down to BURN is a second attempt to burn in case > the first one failed. But since we hear it, then the antenna burn was > successful and we need no more burn attempts. > > > > Bob, WB4APR > > > > Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:37:04] > > Burn in 308 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From 4x4hsc at gmail.com Wed May 20 20:29:55 2015 From: 4x4hsc at gmail.com (Herzliya Science Center) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 23:29:55 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT1 - first 'Compressed APRS' tests In-Reply-To: <3947158ADCA84B7EBA5736F580306887@StevePC> References: <3947158ADCA84B7EBA5736F580306887@StevePC> Message-ID: Steve, We have just replaced the program version in the site with the original files, so no need to rename the files anymore. You might need to refresh or clear your browser's history in order to get the right file downloaded again. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused by that! 73 from shamai ( i am 4z1ws - one of the teachers at 4x4hsc) 2015-05-20 19:24 GMT+03:00 Steve Kristoff : > I downloaded and unzipped the ground station software, but I can't get it > to work, as my computer doesn't recognize the .GGG extension on the files. > However, I can report that I did receive the Morse beacon "hi de Duchifat" > at around 1616 UTC. QTH here is EM79ji. > > Steve Kristoff AI9IN > PO Box 44 > Oldenburg IN USA > skristof @etczone.com > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herzliya Science Center" < > 4x4hsc at gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:22 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT1 - first 'Compressed APRS' tests > > > Hi all, >> DUCHIFAT1, the Israeli high school students 1U Cubesat is ready for first >> public tests. >> People with the ability to send Compressed APRS location packets are >> invited to join the tests. >> The satellite will collect these packets worldwide along its flight at >> 620km high orbit, and will downlink them from time to time over our ground >> station in Herzliya/Israel. >> Participants are kindly requested to register in advance in order to get >> their packet identified on the map. >> The packets successfully received will be displayed on a map in our >> Internet site and QSL cards will be sent via Bureau to the stations >> registered and recognized. (unfortunately, there is no way we can >> recognize >> packets from unregistered stations because the packet is limited to 14 >> character at the satellite, so we assign two unique characters to every >> registered station to enable us to identify them). >> >> Registration can be done at www.h-space-lab.org >> >> Also available in that site are operational information about the >> satellite, and the following documents: >> >> *Configuring TT4 Explanation.doc* - how to use the Byonics TinyTrak4 for >> generating Compressed APRS packets >> >> *Terms Of Use.doc* - terms and techniques for making the best use of the >> satellite >> >> There is also Ground station software available for download, written by >> our students around ISIS space Demodulator software. >> >> We hope many people will find it interesting and enjoyable, >> >> good luck! >> 73 >> from the Herzliya Science Center students and teachers >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > Steve Kristoff > skristof at etczone.com > > "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside > yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the > financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New > Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, > Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 > From w9gb at icloud.com Wed May 20 21:49:03 2015 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 16:49:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Light Sail : Mission Control w/Tracking Message-ID: The Planetary Society has a dedicated Mission Control Page for LightSail. http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol This Mission Control page has LaserSail tracking and information for submissions, PLEASE send your further questions via Jason Davis, Digital Editor for The Planetary Society at: jason.davis at planetary.org Sent from iPad Air From my.callsign at verizon.net Wed May 20 23:44:57 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 16:44:57 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT-1 Message-ID: <555D1C79.1080603@verizon.net> The 23:20u pass was near my horizon, I only displayed 3 of the 1K2 packets. 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [16:26:13] s#000201,0z001 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [16:27:16] T#327,860,070,614,839,820,00011100 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [16:27:48] s#000202,0z001 The next pass should be high enough to receive the 9K6 data. Is there a preference for which of the three satellites I should listen for??? KO6TZ From skristof at etczone.com Wed May 20 23:56:15 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 19:56:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT-1 predictions Message-ID: <9CC9DB24EEB846E3AB8892BDE3A4438D@StevePC> Can we expect the PSAT orbit predictions to be available on the AMSAT Prediction site soon, or am I jumping the gun on this one? Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com From kshaddrick at jetup.net Thu May 21 00:20:24 2015 From: kshaddrick at jetup.net (Kelley) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 19:20:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 Hardware Message-ID: <555D24C8.5090204@jetup.net> What kind of hardware and/or software are people using to decode the 9600 bps cubesats? I've got quite a few 1200 bps options, but nothing that does 9600 bps. Thanks, Kelley -- Kelley - W?RK From bruninga at usna.edu Thu May 21 01:03:26 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 21:03:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 Hardware In-Reply-To: <555D24C8.5090204@jetup.net> References: <555D24C8.5090204@jetup.net> Message-ID: Any of the Kenwood APRS radios. D700 D710, D7, D72 Bob -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 8:20 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 Hardware What kind of hardware and/or software are people using to decode the 9600 bps cubesats? I've got quite a few 1200 bps options, but nothing that does 9600 bps. Thanks, Kelley -- Kelley - W?RK _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Thu May 21 01:10:05 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 21:10:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements Message-ID: <46092825a2d8c43997866461c1c1cf51@mail.gmail.com> These are the launch provided elements for PPOD 3 deployment that included PSAT: ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR From my.callsign at verizon.net Thu May 21 01:23:28 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 18:23:28 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRCSAT and LIGHTSAIL Message-ID: <555D3390.3070707@verizon.net> On the 0105u pass of BRCSAT, I received one 9K6 packet. That was also the only packet I heard. 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [18:05:07] 0000000936, 21,684 For the Light sail I received a lot of binary data at 9K6. I do not have a decoder installed, so here is the "RAW" data. Very easy copy, loud signal. KO6TZ BOB ********************************************** 1:Fm KK6HIT-1 To N6CP [18:02:26] IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220 ..?A..?A........???@DP5=??Q@???[18:02:41] IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220 ..?A..?A........???@"P==??Q@?? =.-?@??[18:03:26] IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220 ..?A..?A........???@?o==??Q@) -=?M?@??[18:02:26] IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220 ..?A..?A........???@DP5=??Q@???[18:02:41] IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220 ..?A..?A........???@"P==??Q@?? =.-?@??[18:03:26] IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220 ..?A..?A........???@?o==??Q@) -=?M?@??[18:04:11] IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220 ..?A..?A........?O?@\ A=??Q at R?=?n?@??[18:04:26] IP:len:248 129.65.147.33->129.65.147.36 ihl:20 ttl:64 DF prot UDP UDP:len:228 50000->50800 Data:220 ..?A..?A........`=?@ ?(=??Q@?=?M?@?? References: <555D24C8.5090204@jetup.net> Message-ID: <555D362D.4070801@verizon.net> Kelley, I use a sound card direct fed from the 9K6 port of my radios, and the AGW-PE software. Been using this for years. BOB KO6TZ From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Thu May 21 01:45:15 2015 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 21:45:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT-1 predictions In-Reply-To: <9CC9DB24EEB846E3AB8892BDE3A4438D@StevePC> References: <9CC9DB24EEB846E3AB8892BDE3A4438D@StevePC> Message-ID: <555D38AB.8030607@alum.wpi.edu> PSAT predictions are now available on the AMSAT web site using the keps Bob Bruninga provided for ULTRASat3 -Joe KM1P On 5/20/2015 7:56 PM, Steve Kristoff wrote: > Can we expect the PSAT orbit predictions to be available on the AMSAT Prediction site soon, or am I jumping the gun on this one? > > Steve Kristoff > skristof at etczone.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Thu May 21 02:44:08 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 22:44:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 Hardware In-Reply-To: <555D24C8.5090204@jetup.net> References: <555D24C8.5090204@jetup.net> Message-ID: <555D4678.9020406@frcuba.co.cu> Give the new Direwolf a try. It has a new technology under the hood that is squeezing every bit of information; again this is pre-alpha but it's working excellent here. The download URL is here, for linux/windows, take a moment to read the documentation in PDF included on the zip files. Windows: http://home.comcast.net/~wb2osz/Version%201.2/direwolf-1.2-dev-E-win.zip Linux: http://home.comcast.net/~wb2osz/Version%201.2/direwolf-1.2-dev-E-src.zip It can do 300/1200/2400/9600 baud. Configuration is a little tricky, I known... but you will enjoy the results at the end. 73 from CO7WT. PS: I use the email via a 9600 packet link that use the new direwolf as TNC on both sides at 9600 baud, of every possible software I tried, this is the best. IMHO. El 20/05/15 a las 20:20, Kelley escibi?: > > What kind of hardware and/or software are people using to decode the > 9600 bps cubesats? I've got quite a few 1200 bps options, but nothing > that does 9600 bps. > > Thanks, > > Kelley > From GW1FKY at aol.com Thu May 21 12:07:37 2015 From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 08:07:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT-1 - Report Message-ID: <136abb.b13662c.428f2488@aol.com> Hi, I was monitoring the Funcube-1 Dashboard Data this morning (Thursday 21st May) and after its pass I tuned around 145.825 Mhz. I appear to have heard CW from PSAT-1 at a late stage of a pass before it got to low. The frequency was around 145.824 Mhz and the time 1142 gmt. Sorry I perhaps missed an opportunity to monitor and give a full report. Please note also that UO-11 is "off" at the moment but I was getting data bursts from NO-44 during an earlier pass. Ken Eaton GW1FKY From bruninga at usna.edu Thu May 21 13:36:01 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:36:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICsat now heard too! Message-ID: BRICsat at 9600 baud 437.975 now heard PSAT at 1200 on 145.825 PSAT PSK31 (Brno University) on 435.350 Power levels seem fine, so we are awaiting Brno to authorize users on 28.120 uplink. Now listening for USS Langley on 437.475 The elements below seem to work fine. Bob *From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:10 PM *To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org *Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu *Subject:* PSAT Elements These are the launch provided elements for PPOD 3 deployment that included PSAT: ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu May 21 13:38:57 2015 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:38:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICsat now heard too! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is really cool, even just watching everyone *talk* about the successful launch, not even watching video of it, or receiving it, yet. I am curious though, are there three separate satellites in one unit? It's confusing for me to think that way. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > BRICsat at 9600 baud 437.975 now heard > > PSAT at 1200 on 145.825 > > PSAT PSK31 (Brno University) on 435.350 > > > > Power levels seem fine, so we are awaiting Brno to authorize users on > 28.120 uplink. > > > > Now listening for USS Langley on 437.475 > > The elements below seem to work fine. > > Bob > > > > *From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu] > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:10 PM > *To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org > *Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu > *Subject:* PSAT Elements > > > > These are the launch provided elements for PPOD 3 deployment that included > PSAT: > > > > ULTRASat3 > > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 > > > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Thu May 21 13:48:06 2015 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:48:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICsat now heard too! Message-ID: In light of this happy news, I have added BRICsat to the list of satellites on the AMSAT Predictions page. -Joe KM1P From bruninga at usna.edu Thu May 21 13:54:17 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:54:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status Message-ID: US Naval Academy Satellite Status Three of four transmitters on 3 separate spacecraft have been heard. PSAT has good voltages and nice temperatures. BRICsat has now been heerd. Awaiting permission from BRNO University to authorize HF user uplinks on PSK31. Also we have turned on Whole Orbit Data (WOD) and so each miniute PSAT will include a packet (145.825) with alphapbet soup on the end. Those will be triplets of XYZ sun data for the last minute. So we will be looking for a rotation pattern in those values. 145.825 1.5U cubesat PSAT 1200 baud 435.350 same cubesat PSAT PSK31 Brno University transponder 437.975 1.5U cubesat BRICsat 9600 baud 437.975 3.0U cubesat USS Langley Bob, WB4APR > ULTRASat3 > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Thu May 21 14:08:37 2015 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 16:08:37 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and BRICSat Telemetry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <046e68c66654041cb39a49496fd24e5f@vgnet.nl> Is there a document that describes the values? BRICSat-P Telemetry 21-05-2015 13:34 UTC 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [15:34:09R] 0000000875, 17,674,0,239,754,875,989, 0,110,374,221,110, 27,110,321, 78, 9, 0, 21,294, 0, 14,0.7,-1.9,0.5,0.000,0.000,0.000 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [15:34:40R] US Naval Academy: BRICSat-P 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [15:35:12R] 0000000935, 18,664 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [15:35:43R] US Naval Academy: BRICSat-P 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [15:36:14R] 0000000995, 18,673,0,222,750,875,989,290,110,403,100,110, 29,110,300, 56, 7, 0, 20,294, 0, 15,0.7,-1.9,0.5,0.000,0.000,0.000 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [15:36:46R] US Naval Academy: BRICSat-P 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [15:37:17R] 0000001070, 18,651 1:Fm BRCSAT To APUSNA [15:37:48R] US Naval Academy: BRICSat-P PSAT Telemetry 21-05-2015 13:41 UTC PSK31 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??7 8 44 785 247 +25 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??8 93 42 777 247 +25 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??9 87 34 784 247 +26 W3ADO-5 beacon B ?1? 99 37 776 247 +26 W3ADO-5 beacon B ?11 99 32 782 248 +26 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??? 34 45 796 245 +23 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??1 9? 37 784 249 +25 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??2 99 38 775 246 +25 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??3 87 47 779 247 +26 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??4 9? 48 772 247 +26 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??5 78 23 777 246 +26 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??6 99 38 774 246 +27 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??7 68 38 779 246 +27 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??8 99 4D 775 246 +27 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??9 68 37 772 246 +26 73 Jan PE0SAT From kx9x at yahoo.com Thu May 21 14:14:53 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 14:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Any Need for FN22? Message-ID: <135425767.3459021.1432217693132.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all- I'll be in Cooperstown, NY for the long weekend. Does anybody need FN22? If so, I'll bring an HT/Arrow for SO-50. ?Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From 4x4hsc at gmail.com Thu May 21 13:57:22 2015 From: 4x4hsc at gmail.com (Herzliya Science Center) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 16:57:22 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT1 - first 'Compressed APRS' tests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, We have experienced some problems in the registration process at our web site. Our students are working on fixing these problems and we estimate this might take a few days. We appologize for the difficulties some of you have experienced and we appreciate your patience. Please do not give up, and try again after we will notify you that the problems are solved. In the mean time you are welcome to try to receive and decode the satellite, send us telemetry, and prepare your setup for sending COMPRESSED APRS packets to DUCHIFAT1 after we will fix the registration issues. (packets must be 14 bytes long "COMPRESSED APRS". Regular APRS or MIC-E won't work here.) 73 from 4X4HSC, The Herzliya Science Center radio teachers - Shamai 4Z1WS and David 4X1DG ?????? 19 ???? 2015 23:22, "Herzliya Science Center" <4x4hsc at gmail.com> ???: > Hi all, > DUCHIFAT1, the Israeli high school students 1U Cubesat is ready for first > public tests. > People with the ability to send Compressed APRS location packets are > invited to join the tests. > The satellite will collect these packets worldwide along its flight at > 620km high orbit, and will downlink them from time to time over our ground > station in Herzliya/Israel. > Participants are kindly requested to register in advance in order to get > their packet identified on the map. > The packets successfully received will be displayed on a map in our > Internet site and QSL cards will be sent via Bureau to the stations > registered and recognized. (unfortunately, there is no way we can recognize > packets from unregistered stations because the packet is limited to 14 > character at the satellite, so we assign two unique characters to every > registered station to enable us to identify them). > > Registration can be done at www.h-space-lab.org > > Also available in that site are operational information about the > satellite, and the following documents: > > *Configuring TT4 Explanation.doc* - how to use the Byonics TinyTrak4 for > generating Compressed APRS packets > > *Terms Of Use.doc* - terms and techniques for making the best use of the > satellite > > There is also Ground station software available for download, written by > our students around ISIS space Demodulator software. > > We hope many people will find it interesting and enjoyable, > > good luck! > 73 > from the Herzliya Science Center students and teachers > From bruninga at usna.edu Thu May 21 14:24:20 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 10:24:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status (needs) Message-ID: <2121eef3e67e1af88ce1aaf0656dbc76@mail.gmail.com> The next things we are looking for are: 1) The first PSAT-1 packet heard via the ISS digipeater 2) The first PSAT-1 S#..... abcabcabcabcabcabc packet showing us spin rate 3) Any data from USS Langley Thanks Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:54 AM To: 'AMSAT BB' Subject: USNA Sat Status US Naval Academy Satellite Status Three of four transmitters on 3 separate spacecraft have been heard. PSAT has good voltages and nice temperatures. BRICsat has now been heerd. Awaiting permission from BRNO University to authorize HF user uplinks on PSK31. Also we have turned on Whole Orbit Data (WOD) and so each miniute PSAT will include a packet (145.825) with alphapbet soup on the end. Those will be triplets of XYZ sun data for the last minute. So we will be looking for a rotation pattern in those values. 145.825 1.5U cubesat PSAT 1200 baud 435.350 same cubesat PSAT PSK31 Brno University transponder 437.975 1.5U cubesat BRICsat 9600 baud 437.975 3.0U cubesat USS Langley Bob, WB4APR > ULTRASat3 > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 From w7lrd at comcast.net Thu May 21 16:16:38 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 16:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: LightSail tracking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1318159442.13510165.1432224998036.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I received this from the Planetary Society which I have been talking to awhile ago. Forwarding to the bb for anyone's interest. 73 Bob W7LRD ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Tom Kemp" To: "Bob- W7LRD" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 8:13:38 PM Subject: LightSail tracking Hi Bob - Are you or anyone else at AMSAT involved in tracking the LightSail? You probably know all this but the amateur radio tracking information is here. Scroll to the bottom of the page. http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol Successful launch this morning. Now it's a matter of tests and collecting data to see how well it works. Tom -- Tom Kemp Global Volunteer Coordinator The Planetary Society http://planetary.org tom.kemp at planetary.org From skristof at etczone.com Thu May 21 16:38:09 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 12:38:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT1 - first 'Compressed APRS' tests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe that I have the software for Duchifat up and running since you made the new version with .exe files available. On the most recent pass, a few minutes ago, I heard the Morse ID, but I was unable to decode any packets. The problem is probably my receiving system not being sensitive enough. Morse ID for Duchifat heard about 1630 UTC. Steve AI9IN Grid EM79ji On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Herzliya Science Center <4x4hsc at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > We have experienced some problems in the registration process at our web > site. Our students are working on fixing these problems and we estimate > this might take a few days. > We appologize for the difficulties some of you have experienced and we > appreciate your patience. > > Please do not give up, and try again after we will notify you that the > problems are solved. > > In the mean time you are welcome to try to receive and decode the > satellite, send us telemetry, and prepare your setup for sending COMPRESSED > APRS packets to DUCHIFAT1 after we will fix the registration issues. > (packets must be 14 bytes long "COMPRESSED APRS". Regular APRS or MIC-E > won't work here.) > > 73 from 4X4HSC, > The Herzliya Science Center radio teachers - Shamai 4Z1WS and David 4X1DG > ?????? 19 ???? 2015 23:22, "Herzliya Science Center" <4x4hsc at gmail.com> > ???: > > > Hi all, > > DUCHIFAT1, the Israeli high school students 1U Cubesat is ready for first > > public tests. > > People with the ability to send Compressed APRS location packets are > > invited to join the tests. > > The satellite will collect these packets worldwide along its flight at > > 620km high orbit, and will downlink them from time to time over our > ground > > station in Herzliya/Israel. > > Participants are kindly requested to register in advance in order to get > > their packet identified on the map. > > The packets successfully received will be displayed on a map in our > > Internet site and QSL cards will be sent via Bureau to the stations > > registered and recognized. (unfortunately, there is no way we can > recognize > > packets from unregistered stations because the packet is limited to 14 > > character at the satellite, so we assign two unique characters to every > > registered station to enable us to identify them). > > > > Registration can be done at www.h-space-lab.org > > > > Also available in that site are operational information about the > > satellite, and the following documents: > > > > *Configuring TT4 Explanation.doc* - how to use the Byonics TinyTrak4 for > > generating Compressed APRS packets > > > > *Terms Of Use.doc* - terms and techniques for making the best use of the > > satellite > > > > There is also Ground station software available for download, written by > > our students around ISIS space Demodulator software. > > > > We hope many people will find it interesting and enjoyable, > > > > good luck! > > 73 > > from the Herzliya Science Center students and teachers > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k.swaggart at charter.net Thu May 21 16:38:45 2015 From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:38:45 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] USS Langley - nil Message-ID: <5FFE942463084416B9F14DB7327992E8@BlackPC> Specifically listened for USS Langley during the 1627Z pass, max el 32 deg, but nothing heard. 73, Ken, W7KKE CN75xa From amsat at n0jy.org Thu May 21 16:47:25 2015 From: amsat at n0jy.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 11:47:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] USS Langley - nil In-Reply-To: <5FFE942463084416B9F14DB7327992E8@BlackPC> References: <5FFE942463084416B9F14DB7327992E8@BlackPC> Message-ID: <555E0C1D.1000702@n0jy.org> Seconded. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 5/21/2015 11:38, Ken Swaggart wrote: > Specifically listened for USS Langley during the 1627Z pass, max el 32 deg, but nothing heard. > > 73, > Ken, W7KKE > CN75xa > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Thu May 21 17:03:08 2015 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 12:03:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/VE2 - FN35 & FN26 Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Due to unforseen circumstances I will miss the SO-50 at 1755Z today but I'll work the following FO-29's. 73 Clayton W5PFG On May 18, 2015 11:19 AM, "Clayton Coleman" wrote: > I'm planning to operate the following passes from FN26 near Val-David, > QC, Canada on Thursday, 21 May: > SO-50 @ 17:55Z > FO-29 @ 19:40Z > FO-29 @ 21:27Z > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG (/VE2 starting Wednesday evening) > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Clayton Coleman > wrote: > > I'll be visiting Montreal, QC, Canada again in a couple of weeks. > > Several individuals have asked me about operating satellites from grid > > FN26. With those requests in mind, I will travel to FN26 for two > > orbits of FO-29. I do not know the specific passes at this time. > > > > There are a few others who are looking to have FN35 confirmed. I will > > post about those operations on Twitter @w5pfg shortly before and > > during the US Memorial Day Weekend Holiday. > > > > Please email me off-BB if you are interested in the FN26 operation. > > > > Thank you, > > > > 73 > > Clayton > > W5PFG > From w9gb at icloud.com Thu May 21 17:05:41 2015 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 12:05:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICsat now heard too! Message-ID: These spacecraft (and CubeSats) were onboard the Atlas V launch, yesterday: ? X-37B OTV-4 (USA 261) ? GEARRSAT 2 (GEARRS 2) ? LightSail A ? OptiCube 1 (O/C 1) ? OptiCube 2 (O/C 2) ? OptiCube 3 (O/C 3) ? USS Langley ? AeroCube 8A (IMPACT A) ? AeroCube 8B (IMPACT B) ? BRICSat-P ? PSat A (ParkinsonSat A) http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_chr/lau2015.htm Scroll down the AMSAT-UK web site http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/20/lightsail-1-launch/ for a very good picture of the Dispenser, that was attached to the Centaur second stage. After OTV-4, X-37B was released, the Centaur stage performed a orbital maneuver for release of these small satellites. -- BTW, Centaur has now been used for 51-1/2 years by USA on Atlas (and retired Titan boosters). w9gb Sent from iPad Air From kx9x at yahoo.com Thu May 21 17:36:58 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 17:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Any Need for FN22? In-Reply-To: <935499050.3603132.1432229786076.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <814EA39C4A39402D9BD57F12DD035CAA@AA5PKPC> <935499050.3603132.1432229786076.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <164263715.3586827.1432229818462.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> OK then. I'll be QRV from some passes. This is a vacation weekend and ham radio is secondary. I'll email the reflector when I know the passes I'll be on (I won't be on every pass every day), and post activity to Twitter as well. ?Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From: Glenn Miller - AA5PK To: Sean K. Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any Need for FN22? Yes! -----Original Message----- From: Sean K. via AMSAT-BB Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:14 AM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Any Need for FN22? Hi all- I'll be in Cooperstown, NY for the long weekend. Does anybody need FN22? If so, I'll bring an HT/Arrow for SO-50. Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4hfn at comcast.net Thu May 21 19:29:00 2015 From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (wa4hfn at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 19:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Star Comm Awards In-Reply-To: <291082889.15886780.1432236075880.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1012718932.15891609.1432236540431.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> For the new satellite operators please checkout our free awards goto www.starcommgroup.org we are an Amsat support group Grid Master for working and confirming all 488 us grids Got grids for making one contact in the 10 grid blocks in the US. 5 in em55 for working 5 stations in em55 or working 5 ops with the award Thanks and enjoy the birds WA4HFN em55 Damon From martha at amsat.org Thu May 21 21:22:45 2015 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 17:22:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed Message-ID: The AMSAT Office will be closed on Friday, May 22nd through Monday, May 25th. I will be back on Tuesday, May 23rd. Time to recover from Dayton! -- 73- Martha (AMSAT's only employee) From bruninga at usna.edu Thu May 21 22:30:06 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 18:30:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status (day 2) Message-ID: <12ae834a8ad362fc35c8f0b83c08cb7a@mail.gmail.com> We now have heard 4 of 5 transmitters from our 3 spacecraft all still in a close cluster: * PSAT packet is OK but WOD not working (no digipeating for users yet) * PSAT PSK31 downlink is ok [remember, it is FM!] * BRICSAT telemetry has been heard but is cycling OFF due to low power * BRICSAT PSK31 downlink (also FM) has also been heard barely (when ON) * USS Langley not heard PSAT CPU shows the 4 day-fail-safe backup reset circuit is not counting down, so we have lost this (1 of 3) fail safe backup RESET capabilities. Bad line of code already found. But cannot change it. PSAT is not properly reporting WOD data and S#... STATUS packets are being bundled until 255 byte packet length is reached and then it all comes down at once. Noone has captured any of these long packets. Please try with PASSALL ON so that you can receive partial packets. Awaiting permission from BRNO University to authorize HF user uplinks on PSAT PSK31. BRICSAT PSK31 transponder is on identical frequencies as PSAT's. You can tell them apart because one has PSK Telemetry on 315 Hz and the other is on 365 Hz. Both on the UHF FM downlink 435.350 MHz We'd LOVE to hear from USS Langley, and we'd love to capture one of those long WOD packets from PSAT. Our ground station is only getting a few packets compared to some submissions from others. Keep it up. SUMMARY: 145.825 1.5U cubesat - PSAT 1200 baud AX.25 435.350 same cubesat - PSAT PSK31 FM - Brno University transponder 437.975 1.5U cubesat - BRICsat 9600 baud 435.350 same cubesat - BRICsat PSK31 FM - Brno University transponder 437.975 3.0U cubesat - USS Langley 9600 bd ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR From bruninga at usna.edu Thu May 21 23:19:30 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 19:19:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink Message-ID: <559edf5af7ff1ac54b106687d6a580c8@mail.gmail.com> Receiving the PSAT (and BRICsat) 435.350 MHz FM downlink is as simple as placing your PSK31 laptop microphone next to the speaker on your FM satellite UHF receiver and just watching the waterfall. What you see is exactly what everyone else sees (its FM). There is no Doppler added to the tones due to your station's position relative to the satellite. But you DO have to retune your FM radio at least 3 times during the pass (+5 KHz, 0, -5 KHz) to stay in the FM passband. User uplinks, however, will shift in the waterfall according to each user's position relative to the satellite. The shift can be as low as 1 Hz per second to as high as 6 Hz per second. This is because the uplink is on 10 meters where the Doppler rate is only 1/15th of what it would be on UHF. The TELEMETRY channel at 315 Hz (PSAT) or 375 Hz (BRICsat) is FIXED with no Doppler since it is generated onboard into the FM downlink WHAT TO DO: 1) We will need PSK31 authors to open the PSK31 frequency tracking to accommodate more than 1 Hz per second Doppler tracking. Current implementations can do 1 Hz/s but completely fail at 3 Hz/s. 2 Hz/s might work a little... 2) Until then, ANY uplink user that is in line with a direct overhead pass will have minimum Doppler at the start and end of his pass (1 Hz/sec) when the satellite is going right at him and directly away from him. (Though it will be MAX (6Hz/sec) when it passes over his station). 3) Just turn on MULTI CHANNEL window and let the PSK31 decode everyone. The ones with the least Doppler at any instant may be decoded for a while! USERS can transmit later when BRNO University says it has completed its tests. Brno provided the transponders for use in the PSAT and BRICsat satellites. So start preparing your station to TX PSK31 on 10 meters SSB and to receive the audio from an FM UHF rig on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz steps of Doppler. DOWNLINK Limitations: The UHF downlink signal is only 300 mW and so a UHF beam is needed on the downlink. UPLINK RESTRICTIONS: *NOTHING MORE THAN* a Vertical 1/4 wave or Dipole is authorized on the 10m uplink and no more than 25 Watts (for now). Remember a 1/4 wave vertical is the ideal antenna because it maximizes the signal at lower angles and tapers the signal as the satellite gets closer. This keeps user uplinks about the same during a pass. Strong stations just drive down the AGC and ruin it for everyone. Use minimum power!! Remember, this is crossband FULL DUPLEX so you can see yourself in the downlink just like everyone else can see you. Act accordingly. And of course DO NOT TRANSMIT if you cannot see the waterfall ... Duh! Enjoy! Bob, WB4APR From dquagliana at aol.com Fri May 22 00:58:13 2015 From: dquagliana at aol.com (Douglas Quagliana) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 19:58:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status (day 2) In-Reply-To: <12ae834a8ad362fc35c8f0b83c08cb7a@mail.gmail.com> References: <12ae834a8ad362fc35c8f0b83c08cb7a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <555E7F25.7050500@aol.com> On 5/21/2015 5:30 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > PSAT is not properly reporting WOD data and S#... STATUS packets are being > bundled until 255 byte packet length is reached and then it all comes down > at once. Noone has captured any of these long packets. Please try with > PASSALL ON so that you can receive partial packets. > Does anyone have a recording of a PSAT pass? I would like to get either a 48k samples per second recording or an I/Q recording. I want to try my DSP software modem on the long packets. 73, Douglas KA2UPW/5 From saguaroastro at cox.net Fri May 22 03:48:04 2015 From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 20:48:04 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink Message-ID: Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Robert Bruninga Date: 05/21/2015 16:19 (GMT-07:00) To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink Receiving the PSAT (and BRICsat) 435.350 MHz FM downlink is as simple as placing? your PSK31 laptop microphone next to the speaker on your FM satellite UHF receiver and just watching the waterfall. What you see is exactly what everyone else sees (its FM).? There is no Doppler added to the tones due to your station's position relative to the satellite.? But you DO have to retune your FM radio at least 3 times during the pass (+5 KHz, 0, -5 KHz) to stay in the FM passband. User uplinks, however, will shift in the waterfall according to each user's position relative to the satellite.? The shift can be as low as 1 Hz per second to as high as 6 Hz per second.? This is because the uplink is on 10 meters where the Doppler rate is only 1/15th of what it would be on UHF. The TELEMETRY channel at 315 Hz (PSAT) or 375 Hz (BRICsat) is FIXED with no Doppler since it is generated onboard into the FM downlink WHAT TO DO: 1) We will need PSK31 authors to open the PSK31 frequency tracking to accommodate more than 1 Hz per second Doppler tracking.? Current implementations can do 1 Hz/s but completely fail at 3 Hz/s.? 2 Hz/s might work a little... 2) Until then, ANY uplink user that is in line with a direct overhead pass will have minimum Doppler at the start and end of his pass (1 Hz/sec) when the satellite is going right at him and directly away from him.? (Though it will be MAX (6Hz/sec) when it passes over his station). 3) Just turn on MULTI CHANNEL window and let the PSK31 decode everyone. The ones with the least Doppler at any instant may be decoded for a while! USERS can transmit later when BRNO University says it has completed its tests.? Brno provided the transponders for use in the PSAT and BRICsat satellites. So start preparing your station to TX PSK31 on 10 meters SSB and to receive the audio from an FM UHF rig on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz steps of Doppler. DOWNLINK Limitations:? The UHF downlink signal is only 300 mW and so a UHF beam is needed on the downlink. UPLINK RESTRICTIONS:? *NOTHING MORE THAN* a Vertical 1/4 wave or Dipole is authorized on the 10m uplink? and no more than 25 Watts (for now). Remember a 1/4 wave vertical is the ideal antenna because it maximizes the signal at lower angles and tapers the signal as the satellite gets closer. This keeps? user uplinks about the same during a pass.? Strong stations just drive down the AGC and ruin it for everyone. Use minimum power!!? Remember, this is crossband FULL DUPLEX so? you can see yourself in the downlink just like everyone else can see you.? Act accordingly.? And of course DO NOT TRANSMIT if you cannot see the waterfall? ... Duh! Enjoy! Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wb3csy at gmail.com Fri May 22 05:33:21 2015 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 01:33:21 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Error just started with SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3 Message-ID: <8191F12E-6553-4931-9E49-FDD3A482874A@gmail.com> I usually update my Keplerian elements to track the birds with T.S. Kelso's SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3, stand alone Windows program. It has worked flawlessly for many years on my laptops running XP and Windows 7. Starting this week, I get an error on all three computers. The program downloads the master lists fine but when I click the button to parse them out and check for errors, I immediately get "Unhandled exception has occurred in your application Spacetrak .... Index and length must refer to a location within the string parameter name length. I am using version 3.0.1.3 (2013Jul17) and even upgraded on one computer to version 3.0.1.5 (2014 Dec18). I sent an email to T.S. Kelso and attached a debug file but have not heard anything in several days. Any one have the same problem or know of a fix? Thank you. Rick WB3CSY Sent from Rick's iPad2 From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri May 22 05:56:44 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (wa4sca at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 05:56:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?Error_just_started_with_SpaceTrack_TLE_Retri?= =?utf-8?q?ever_3?= In-Reply-To: <8191F12E-6553-4931-9E49-FDD3A482874A@gmail.com> References: <8191F12E-6553-4931-9E49-FDD3A482874A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <555ec5fd.081c8c0a.7afc.408b@mx.google.com> Have you updated to the new password requirement, and also entered it in the program? Alan WA4SCA From: Rick Walter Sent: ?Friday?, ?May? ?22?, ?2015 ?12?:?33? ?AM To: AMSAT-BB I usually update my Keplerian elements to track the birds with T.S. Kelso's SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3, stand alone Windows program. It has worked flawlessly for many years on my laptops running XP and Windows 7. Starting this week, I get an error on all three computers. The program downloads the master lists fine but when I click the button to parse them out and check for errors, I immediately get "Unhandled exception has occurred in your application Spacetrak .... Index and length must refer to a location within the string parameter name length. I am using version 3.0.1.3 (2013Jul17) and even upgraded on one computer to version 3.0.1.5 (2014 Dec18). I sent an email to T.S. Kelso and attached a debug file but have not heard anything in several days. Any one have the same problem or know of a fix? Thank you. Rick WB3CSY Sent from Rick's iPad2 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wb3csy at gmail.com Fri May 22 08:37:02 2015 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 04:37:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Error just started with SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3 In-Reply-To: <555ec5fd.081c8c0a.7afc.408b@mx.google.com> References: <8191F12E-6553-4931-9E49-FDD3A482874A@gmail.com> <555ec5fd.081c8c0a.7afc.408b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4FDDA32D-13C5-4C39-8EF3-32E9B0F5D1AF@gmail.com> Hi Alan. Is this something just recent? I know while back we had to do something like that and then after that,we had to upgrade to a new version. Rick Sent from Rick's iPad2 > On May 22, 2015, at 1:56 AM, wrote: > > Have you updated to the new password requirement, and also entered it in the program? > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > From: Rick Walter > Sent: ?Friday?, ?May? ?22?, ?2015 ?12?:?33? ?AM > To: AMSAT-BB > > I usually update my Keplerian elements to track the birds with T.S. Kelso's SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3, stand alone Windows program. It has worked flawlessly for many years on my laptops running XP and Windows 7. Starting this week, I get an error on all three computers. The program downloads the master lists fine but when I click the button to parse them out and check for errors, I immediately get "Unhandled exception has occurred in your application Spacetrak .... > Index and length must refer to a location within the string parameter name length. I am using version 3.0.1.3 (2013Jul17) and even upgraded on one computer to version 3.0.1.5 (2014 Dec18). I sent an email to T.S. Kelso and attached a debug file but have not heard anything in several days. Any one have the same problem or know of a fix? Thank you. > Rick > WB3CSY > > Sent from Rick's iPad2 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k7trkradio at charter.net Fri May 22 00:35:53 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 17:35:53 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AGW Packet, UISS with TS-2000 Message-ID: <003b01d09427$429bda50$c7d38ef0$@charter.net> Anyone successfully using the built-in TNC in KW TS-2000 with AGW Packet engine. Unsure what to select in the drop down for TNC Make. Any help appreciated 73, Ted K7TRK From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri May 22 10:57:25 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 05:57:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Error just started with SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3 In-Reply-To: <4FDDA32D-13C5-4C39-8EF3-32E9B0F5D1AF@gmail.com> References: <8191F12E-6553-4931-9E49-FDD3A482874A@gmail.com> <555ec5fd.081c8c0a.7afc.408b@mx.google.com> <4FDDA32D-13C5-4C39-8EF3-32E9B0F5D1AF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003a01d0947e$1738c150$45aa43f0$@GMAIL.COM> Rick, Yes. The deadline to upgrade your password was this week. Go to Space Track and log in. If you need to, it will take you to the form. Then update and save the password in TLE Retriever 3. No upgrade necessary. If you have an incorrect password, it will give you exactly the errror message you reported. You will probably see that the download in fact did not work, showing 0 files downloaded, but no error message is generated. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- > > wrote: < < < < Have you updated to the new password requirement, and also entered it in the program? < < Alan < WA4SCA < < < From: Rick Walter < Sent: ?Friday?, ?May? ?22?, ?2015 ?12?:?33? ?AM < To: AMSAT-BB < < I usually update my Keplerian elements to track the birds with T.S. Kelso's SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3, stand alone . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available < to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed < are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. < Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! < Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < From wb3csy at gmail.com Fri May 22 11:29:33 2015 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 07:29:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Error just started with SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3 In-Reply-To: <003a01d0947e$1738c150$45aa43f0$@GMAIL.COM> References: <8191F12E-6553-4931-9E49-FDD3A482874A@gmail.com> <555ec5fd.081c8c0a.7afc.408b@mx.google.com> <4FDDA32D-13C5-4C39-8EF3-32E9B0F5D1AF@gmail.com> <003a01d0947e$1738c150$45aa43f0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: <98359515-192C-429B-A549-C84255D0630B@gmail.com> Thank you Alan. I had no indication we needed to upgrade a password. I appreciate the help. 73, Rick Sent from Rick's iPad2 > On May 22, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Alan wrote: > > Rick, > > Yes. The deadline to upgrade your password was this week. Go to Space Track and log in. If you need to, it will take you to the form. Then update and save the password in TLE Retriever 3. No upgrade necessary. If you have an incorrect password, it will give you exactly the errror message you reported. You will probably see that the download in fact did not work, showing 0 files downloaded, but no error message is generated. > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > < > < > > < > wrote: > < > < > < > < Have you updated to the new password requirement, and also entered it in the program? > < > < Alan > < WA4SCA > < > < > < From: Rick Walter > < Sent: ?Friday?, ?May? ?22?, ?2015 ?12?:?33? ?AM > < To: AMSAT-BB > < > < I usually update my Keplerian elements to track the birds with T.S. Kelso's SpaceTrack TLE Retriever 3, stand alone > < Index and length must refer to a location within the string parameter name length. I am using version 3.0.1.3 > <(2013Jul17) and even upgraded on one computer to version 3.0.1.5 (2014 Dec18). I sent an email to T.S. Kelso and attached > < Rick > < WB3CSY > < > < Sent from Rick's iPad2 > < _______________________________________________ > < Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > < to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > < are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > < Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > < Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > < > > From ewpereira at gmail.com Fri May 22 11:45:28 2015 From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 08:45:28 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSat Frames Message-ID: Received during the night @ GG56 PSAT-1/ARISS>APOFF>UI,?,F0: s#001532,0z200,00000000000000000AaABcdDKhJLIMkEMilK PSAT-1/ARISS>APOFF>UI,?,F0: T#254,836,089,888,915,835,00011100 PSAT-1/ARISS>APOFF>UI,?,F0: s#001533,0z200,LkKN0MbJMlhLHlKN0MdJMliLHlLMBMjJMmiK PSAT-1/ARISS>APOFF>UI,?,F0: T#256,861,074,788,914,838,00011100 73, Edson PY2SDR --- - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together. - N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se trabalharmos juntos. From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Fri May 22 11:55:43 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 11:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Beijing may launch amateur satellites in July inc Linear Transponder Message-ID: <990328116.490330.1432295743606.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Beijing may launch amateur satellites in July. One report says 20 CubeSats ? http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/22/beijing-satellites/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK ---- From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Fri May 22 12:56:50 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 08:56:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Beijing may launch amateur satellites in July inc Linear Transponder In-Reply-To: <990328116.490330.1432295743606.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <990328116.490330.1432295743606.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <670D348C-13E2-4B3F-9452-DF46A5FB65F0@mindspring.com> I am -really- curious to what orbit these are going. 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2015, at 7:55 AM, M5AKA wrote: > > Beijing may launch amateur satellites in July. One report says 20 CubeSats ? > http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/22/beijing-satellites/ > > 73 Trevor M5AKA > ---- > AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/ > Twitter https://twitter.com/AmsatUK > Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK > ---- > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From KE6PPE at aol.com Fri May 22 13:08:02 2015 From: KE6PPE at aol.com (KE6PPE at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 09:08:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] HELP WITH SATPC32 Message-ID: My old computer crashed and I'm installing on a new machine. OS 8.1 .When I start the program it come up with { OLE-Fehler 8004503A, Class ID: ( A5584957-EF07-419C-BACD-9931F1256D92} , ) . When I click ok it comes up with { OLE-Fehler 8004503A, Class ID: ( A5584957-EF07-419C-BACD-9931F1256D92}. What does this mean? Larry KE6PPE From bruninga at usna.edu Fri May 22 13:55:53 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 09:55:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Spin Data reported! Message-ID: <08a2d92e4b1dd30592088eef82de799c@mail.gmail.com> Got good Spin packets from J Finally Got spin data from JA0CAW And PY2SDR! Since we have not yet written any decode software, we will be manually processing these. The format is OOOOmm,0z200,XYZXYZXYZXYZXYZXYZ?..XYZ Where OOOO is the orbit number and mm is the MINUTE (0-to-95) into the orbit. 0z200 is status, ill do later? Tha Alphabet soup is the sun vector data over the last minute! In this case, every 5 seconds, Where the XYZ are the values of the XYZ sun vector. CAPITAL letters are from +1 to +26 and lower case letters are from -1 to -26 This 4th packet below shows the satellite just coming into sun. What an amazing coincidence [07:49:06R] s#001156,0z200,hCIifHHfIIGHgFHdfIIcHEHHgDIBgIJ0HBHH s#001157,0z200,gCIeeIHeIJFHdEIAfJIbIFGHeAJDfJJ0HCHH s#001160,0z200,fbIdfIHcICFIfAIafHH0I0GHfaHCfIIBHaGH s#001532,0z200,00000000000000000AaABcdDKhJLIMkEMilK s#001533,0z200,LkKN0MbJMlhLHlKN0MdJMliLHlLMBMjJMmiK Make a scale going positive from 0 to Z and negative from 0 to ?z. Then for each XYZ set, plot the three points. Then connect the X?s and the Y?s and the Z?s and we should see a pattern of rotation! Im starting now. By tte time I finish, a good programmer might beat me to it! Bob, WB4APR From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Fri May 22 14:07:53 2015 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 16:07:53 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] HELP WITH SATPC32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <555F3839.9010500@t-online.de> Hello Larry, the reason could be that no speaker or headphones are plugged into the computer. Two other users reported the same error message and that was the reason. See also the FAQs file on my website www.dk1tb.de, Engl. page "Downloads": * k. Ole error 8004503A??* The SatPC32 voice feature requires the Microsoft Speech SDK (for Windows XP: SAPI 5.1 ) to be installed on the PC. If it is missing you will get the aforementioned error message. The SAPI 5.1 could be downloaded for free from the Microsoft web site: http://www.microsoft.com/reader/developers/downloads/tts.mspx Unfortunately this site is no longer available. But you will find other links, search with the keywords "SAPI 5.1 Download". Windows 7 and 8 come with the Speech SDK installed. A user got the errror message under Windows 7, but found the reason: The message appears if no speakers or headphones are plugged into the computer. 73s Erich, DK1TB Am 22.05.2015 um 15:08 schrieb KE6PPE--- via AMSAT-BB: > My old computer crashed and I'm installing on a new machine. OS 8.1 .When I > start the program it come up with { OLE-Fehler 8004503A, Class ID: ( > A5584957-EF07-419C-BACD-9931F1256D92} , ) . When I click ok it comes up with > { OLE-Fehler 8004503A, Class ID: ( A5584957-EF07-419C-BACD-9931F1256D92}. > What does this mean? > > Larry KE6PPE > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bruninga at usna.edu Fri May 22 15:04:00 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 11:04:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Spin Data reported! now plotted! Message-ID: <06923c17715372c6b46804c14cbb5b6d@mail.gmail.com> Spin Data Plotted! 3 RPM perfectly about Z as induced by differential radiative pressure. See plot: http://aprs.org/psat.html Now to see if it keeps spinning higher or has achieved equilibrium with eddy current damping? Bob, WB4APR *From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu] *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 9:56 AM *To:* amsat-bb at amsat.org *Cc:* bruninga at usna.edu; kang at usna.edu *Subject:* PSAT Spin Data reported! Got good Spin packets from J Finally Got spin data from JA0CAW And PY2SDR! Since we have not yet written any decode software, we will be manually processing these. The format is OOOOmm,0z200,XYZXYZXYZXYZXYZXYZ?..XYZ Where OOOO is the orbit number and mm is the MINUTE (0-to-95) into the orbit. 0z200 is status, ill do later? Tha Alphabet soup is the sun vector data over the last minute! In this case, every 5 seconds, Where the XYZ are the values of the XYZ sun vector. CAPITAL letters are from +1 to +26 and lower case letters are from -1 to -26 This 4th packet below shows the satellite just coming into sun. What an amazing coincidence [07:49:06R] s#001156,0z200,hCIifHHfIIGHgFHdfIIcHEHHgDIBgIJ0HBHH s#001157,0z200,gCIeeIHeIJFHdEIAfJIbIFGHeAJDfJJ0HCHH s#001160,0z200,fbIdfIHcICFIfAIafHH0I0GHfaHCfIIBHaGH s#001532,0z200,00000000000000000AaABcdDKhJLIMkEMilK s#001533,0z200,LkKN0MbJMlhLHlKN0MdJMliLHlLMBMjJMmiK Make a scale going positive from 0 to Z and negative from 0 to ?z. Then for each XYZ set, plot the three points. Then connect the X?s and the Y?s and the Z?s and we should see a pattern of rotation! Im starting now. By tte time I finish, a good programmer might beat me to it! Bob, WB4APR From bruninga at usna.edu Fri May 22 15:50:34 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 11:50:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink (Users Welcome) Message-ID: The Brno University builders of the PSK31 transponder on PSAT have now authorized user uplinks on 28.120 MHz PSK31 SSB. Downlink FM on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz doppler. Here is the announcement from Brno University: "We can uplink open to all users. Please, do it." - Mirek OK2AQ Do NOT operate if PSAT telemetry is below 7.20 volts. Cease operations. The voltage parameter is the second data field. For example, this morning the telemetry packet is showing 8.99 volts in the second data field: T#658,899,072,583,875,854,00011100. The third field is current (here showing 72 mA so Transponder is off. When PSK is on, then current goes to over 300 mA) We'd like to get some packets in the DARK showing battery voltage while not charging? Enjoy Bob Bruninga, WB4APR -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:20 PM Subject: Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink Receiving the PSAT (and BRICsat) 435.350 MHz FM downlink is as simple as placing your PSK31 laptop microphone next to the speaker on your FM satellite UHF receiver and just watching the waterfall. What you see is exactly what everyone else sees (its FM). There is no Doppler added to the tones due to your station's position relative to the satellite. But you DO have to retune your FM radio at least 3 times during the pass (+5 KHz, 0, -5 KHz) to stay in the FM passband. User uplinks, however, will shift in the waterfall according to each user's position relative to the satellite. The shift can be as low as 1 Hz per second to as high as 6 Hz per second. This is because the uplink is on 10 meters where the Doppler rate is only 1/15th of what it would be on UHF. The TELEMETRY channel at 315 Hz (PSAT) or 375 Hz (BRICsat) is FIXED with no Doppler since it is generated onboard into the FM downlink WHAT TO DO: 1) We will need PSK31 authors to open the PSK31 frequency tracking to accommodate more than 1 Hz per second Doppler tracking. Current implementations can do 1 Hz/s but completely fail at 3 Hz/s. 2 Hz/s might work a little... 2) Until then, ANY uplink user that is in line with a direct overhead pass will have minimum Doppler at the start and end of his pass (1 Hz/sec) when the satellite is going right at him and directly away from him. (Though it will be MAX (6Hz/sec) when it passes over his station). 3) Just turn on MULTI CHANNEL window and let the PSK31 decode everyone. The ones with the least Doppler at any instant may be decoded for a while! USERS can transmit later when BRNO University says it has completed its tests. Brno provided the transponders for use in the PSAT and BRICsat satellites. So start preparing your station to TX PSK31 on 10 meters SSB and to receive the audio from an FM UHF rig on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz steps of Doppler. DOWNLINK Limitations: The UHF downlink signal is only 300 mW and so a UHF beam is needed on the downlink. UPLINK RESTRICTIONS: *NOTHING MORE THAN* a Vertical 1/4 wave or Dipole is authorized on the 10m uplink and no more than 25 Watts (for now). Remember a 1/4 wave vertical is the ideal antenna because it maximizes the signal at lower angles and tapers the signal as the satellite gets closer. This keeps user uplinks about the same during a pass. Strong stations just drive down the AGC and ruin it for everyone. Use minimum power!! Remember, this is crossband FULL DUPLEX so you can see yourself in the downlink just like everyone else can see you. Act accordingly. And of course DO NOT TRANSMIT if you cannot see the waterfall ... Duh! Enjoy! Bob, WB4APR From bruninga at usna.edu Fri May 22 16:56:29 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 12:56:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT downlink now showing on FINDU.COM Message-ID: <9c7fb1b7b19a41bdd190dc42c9b6bb04@mail.gmail.com> PSAT now on FINDU.COM: Steve Dimse, K4HG author of FINDU.COM has now added PSAT packets to the original (now going on 14 years) PCSAT Downlink data page. So now packets injected by volunteer ground stations around the world into the APRS-IS (internet system) are being captured there. See http://pcsat.aprs.org Thanks Steve! Bob, Wb4APR From bruninga at usna.edu Fri May 22 17:07:12 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 13:07:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSK-31 Author ideas Message-ID: <2d2bf089dc5723c79a9a0394101c7909@mail.gmail.com> PSK31 authors: Peter Martinez G3PLX, original author of PSK31 reminds me that the ideal Satellite PSK31 decoder would take advantage of the full-duplex links and simply have the user click on his own signal in the downlink and then his own softwar would AFC his uplink based on his downlink. Thus everyone remains locked in place in the waterfall! Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: Peter Martinez [mailto:peter.martinez at btinternet.com] Subject: Re: Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink (Users Welcome) Bob: In addition (or instead of?) urging PSK31 software authors to widen-out the AFC on receive, it would be far better in the long term to get these authors to include the ability to AFC the users uplink transmit frequency to null the Doppler drift on the user's reception of his own signal in the downlink baseband. This will eliminate the risk of multiple uplink signals from different directions drifting across each other, and opens up the possibilities for many new techniques such as unattended reception (in the same way that unattended reception of the tepemetry is possble now). ModernPSK31 programs should have no difficulty letting the user spot his own signal in the waterfall with a special mouse-click and applying the AFC to the transmit audio tone while the program is running full duplex. The multiple-receive features on these moderm programs can then be used to work full duplex QSOs, with the user leaving his transmit signal keyed-on during the whole pass. Similarly, modern PSK31 programs should be able to measure the mean received SNR of one's-own downlink signal and adjust the transmit tone amplitude to keep the SNR to a reasonable level, say 14dB. I have these two features working on my own software today but this program is not sufficiently well written that I am prepared to make it available on a wide distribution, although program developers are welcome to have a copy to play with, including the source code. 73 Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" To: "Miroslav Kasal" ; "Peter Martinez" ; "Urbanec Tom??" ; "Petr Vagner" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 3:55 PM Subject: FW: Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink (Users Welcome) > PSK31 team. How many of you are on AMSAT-BB? > I am making many posts about PSAT there, and have very little time > (Personal, work, and family crises)... So can I assume you see all > copies there? If one of you is on AMSAT-BB, then you can forward to > others anything about PSAT? Here is the announcement. > > Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu] > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:51 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: RE: Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink (Users Welcome) > > The Brno University builders of the PSK31 transponder on PSAT have now > authorized user uplinks on 28.120 MHz PSK31 SSB. Downlink FM on > 435.350 > +/- > 5 KHz doppler. Here is the announcement from Brno University: > > "We can uplink open to all users. Please, do it." - Mirek OK2AQ > > Do NOT operate if PSAT telemetry is below 7.20 volts. Cease operations. > The voltage parameter is the second data field. For example, this > morning the telemetry packet is showing 8.99 volts in the second data > field: > T#658,899,072,583,875,854,00011100. The third field is current (here > showing 72 mA so Transponder is off. When PSK is on, then current > goes to over 300 mA) > > We'd like to get some packets in the DARK showing battery voltage > while not charging? > > Enjoy > Bob Bruninga, WB4APR > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:20 PM > Subject: Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink > > Receiving the PSAT (and BRICsat) 435.350 MHz FM downlink is as simple > as placing your PSK31 laptop microphone next to the speaker on your > FM satellite UHF receiver and just watching the waterfall. > > What you see is exactly what everyone else sees (its FM). There is no > Doppler added to the tones due to your station's position relative to > the satellite. But you DO have to retune your FM radio at least 3 > times during the pass (+5 KHz, 0, -5 KHz) to stay in the FM passband. > > User uplinks, however, will shift in the waterfall according to each > user's position relative to the satellite. The shift can be as low as > 1 Hz per second to as high as 6 Hz per second. This is because the > uplink is on 10 meters where the Doppler rate is only 1/15th of what > it would be on UHF. > > The TELEMETRY channel at 315 Hz (PSAT) or 375 Hz (BRICsat) is FIXED > with no Doppler since it is generated onboard into the FM downlink > > WHAT TO DO: > > 1) We will need PSK31 authors to open the PSK31 frequency tracking to > accommodate more than 1 Hz per second Doppler tracking. Current > implementations can do 1 Hz/s but completely fail at 3 Hz/s. 2 Hz/s > might work a little... > > 2) Until then, ANY uplink user that is in line with a direct overhead > pass will have minimum Doppler at the start and end of his pass (1 > Hz/sec) when the satellite is going right at him and directly away > from him. (Though it will be MAX (6Hz/sec) when it passes over his > station). > > 3) Just turn on MULTI CHANNEL window and let the PSK31 decode everyone. > The ones with the least Doppler at any instant may be decoded for a while! > > USERS can transmit later when BRNO University says it has completed > its tests. Brno provided the transponders for use in the PSAT and > BRICsat satellites. > > So start preparing your station to TX PSK31 on 10 meters SSB and to > receive the audio from an FM UHF rig on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz steps of > Doppler. > > DOWNLINK Limitations: The UHF downlink signal is only 300 mW and so a > UHF beam is needed on the downlink. > > UPLINK RESTRICTIONS: *NOTHING MORE THAN* a Vertical 1/4 wave or > Dipole is authorized on the 10m uplink and no more than 25 Watts (for > now). > Remember a 1/4 wave vertical is the ideal antenna because it maximizes > the signal at lower angles and tapers the signal as the satellite gets > closer. > This keeps user uplinks about the same during a pass. Strong > stations just drive down the AGC and ruin it for everyone. > > Use minimum power!! Remember, this is crossband FULL DUPLEX so you > can see yourself in the downlink just like everyone else can see you. > Act accordingly. And of course DO NOT TRANSMIT if you cannot see the > waterfall ... Duh! > > Enjoy! > > Bob, WB4APR From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri May 22 17:32:15 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 12:32:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Receiving PSAT PSK31 FM downlink (Users Welcome) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d094b5$3f15d050$bd4170f0$@GMAIL.COM> SatPC32 users: This should get you started: PSAT,435350.0,28120.0,FM,USB,NOR,0,0,PSK31 If the TX update step is greater than 1 Hz, go to the CAT tab. Select and store 1 Hz for the SSB/ CW interval. Check 10 X for the update speed. I have my usual 10 Hz selected, and a fast machine, so I get 1 Hz steps without changing anything. The downlink should be fine, but the uplink will probably require a bit of adjustment to match your rig. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [10:06:39] s#001617,0z200,FbGDAG0BHBaHEbHCAH0AHBaHDbGCBH0AHCbH Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [10:07:09] T#376,795,352,494,836,863,00011100 Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [11:45:36] T#473,807,354,509,867,888,00011100 Timo, PE1NTN From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Fri May 22 17:49:59 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 13:49:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with IC910 & SatPC32 PC/COM-Port Message-ID: <555F6C47.2010007@denstarfarm.us> Though I show COM#11 at 19200 8n2, and it's a "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port" ... SatPC32 never sees it. For that matter, and as a test, DXLabs Commander" complains "Invalid Porty number (8002) thePort=primary CAT port, port number=11 ... But DevMgr shows it plain as day. I've re-booted a couple times to see if that helped. O/S is Win7/64bit So anyone with an idea for me to try, please write. List or Direct, egal 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From bruninga at usna.edu Fri May 22 18:21:37 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 14:21:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early Message-ID: I am finding that PSAT is 6 MINUTES behind the predictions of the previously provided original Launch TLE : ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 So until I get new ones. Just point at AOS and wait 6 miuntes. Also, I had said not to TX PSK31 on the 10m u plink until you heard the downlink. Well, that was dumb advise, because the transponder does not come up unless it hears PSK31! So the new rule is, Listen first. If not heard, TX anyway. If not heard then, Fix your problem, and try again? We don?t know how the power budget will work out. So all we can do is watch. Bob, WB4APR From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Fri May 22 18:32:06 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 14:32:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help with IC910 & SatPC32 PC/COM-Port In-Reply-To: <555F6C47.2010007@denstarfarm.us> References: <555F6C47.2010007@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <555F7626.5060304@denstarfarm.us> however, I also ran a bus-reset program I found ... this deletes added Virtual Ports, hidden or not. After a sys reboot, suddenly my DxLabs Commander as-well-as my SatPc32, read the IC91`0. Go figure now that my Az/El stuff is working, what are the current usable Sats for comms, voice/CW/Data that we are using? 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From bruninga at usna.edu Fri May 22 18:54:01 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 14:54:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status (day 3) Message-ID: <2b66716d2036cb360cd884657ec4863a@mail.gmail.com> PSAT Summary - Day 3 * PSAT packet telemetry is OK, Digipeater will be off (secondary mission) * PSAT PSK31 transponder is ON with 28.120 MHz uplink! (primary mission) * WOD data fixed. Spin data now available. Right now it is at 3 RPM with +Z pointing at Sun * Launch TLE elements (below) are 6 minutes ahead of satellite * PCSAT.APRS.ORG web page is now also capturing PSAT telelmetry downlinks * BRICSAT telemetry has been heard but is cycling OFF due to low power * BRICSAT PSK31 downlink (also FM) has also been heard barely (when ON) * USS Langley not heard Only fault so far is the loss of the 4 day-fail-safe backup reset circuit (1 of 3) fail safe backup RESET capabilities. The lack of WOD data was because we had a LOW-POWER bits set that was holding it off. BRICSAT PSK31 transponder is on identical frequencies as PSAT's. You can tell them apart because one has PSK Telemetry on 315 Hz and the other is on 365 Hz. Both on the UHF FM downlink 435.350 MHz SUMMARY: PSAT: 145.825 - 1200 baud AX.25 telemetry - digi off PSAT PSK31#1: 435.350 FM down, 28.120 SSB PK31 uplink - Brno University Xponder BRICsat: 437.975 - 9600 baud telemetry downlink every 20s BRICsat PSK31#2 - same as PSAT but PSK TLM on 375 Hz (PSAT on 315 Hz) USS Langley - 437.975 9600 baud telemetry ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR From jimlist at zoho.com Fri May 22 21:20:54 2015 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 22:20:54 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change In-Reply-To: <5555C08F.9060506@zoho.com> References: <55282E67.7020104@zoho.com> <553AB7FC.9040508@zoho.com> <5543FCD1.8040305@zoho.com> <554DCF7F.6000206@zoho.com> <5555C08F.9060506@zoho.com> Message-ID: <555F9DB6.6020704@zoho.com> Hi All, Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 2120 UTC) been commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to autonomous mode on Sunday pm. Have FUN! 73 Jim G3WGM From n8hm at arrl.net Fri May 22 21:49:04 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 17:49:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 Telemetry over Washington, DC 2130Z Message-ID: Good evening, Nice strong signals from PSAT over southwest Washington, DC (FM18lv) around 2130Z. I decoded several frames of telemetry from the beacon and saw a couple of PSK31 signals in the passband, but from what I could decode, they appear to have been terrestrial QSOs in progress. I did not see the BRICSAT beacon at all. I was not setup to transmit on this pass. Maybe tomorrow. Thanks to the U. S. Naval Academy, WB4APR, and Brno University for something different to try out. Hopefully I'll be able to make a QSO soon! The decoded telemetry is below. Receive setup was a Yaesu FT-817, Arrow II, and HSM LNAA432 preamp. I had the levels screwed up when live, so this is decoded off my recording with fldigi. W3ADO-5 beacon B 008 90 27 780 250 +18 t5o W3ADO-5 beacon B 009 99 29 7i 5 248 +18 a= W3ADO-5 beacon B 010 99 32 775 248 +19 ea a W3ADO-5 beacon B 011 28 23 775 249 +19 g ,l W3ADO-5 beacon B 012 09 23 777 248 +19 =ce W3ADO-5 beacon B 013 62 23 775 248 +20 eeetY W3ADO-5 beacon B 014 53 23 771 249 +20 ve W3ADO-5 beacon B 015 03 2e=777 248 +20 deaoo W3ADO-5 beacon B 016 40 23 773 248 +20 e rO W3ADO-5 beacon B 017 56 23 773 247 +21 t W3ADO-5 beacon B 018 56 23 772 248 +21 l tnm eo ie? mo W3ADO-5 beacon B 019 34 26 783 248 +19 Qc W3ADO-5 beacon B 020 06 23 773 248 +20 setT W3ADO-5 be Lt t,t oite.eo n)d enttpg>ty-o1oatte c leem o C ,a abli W3ADO-5 beacon A 000 03 23 793 8 +16 i W3ADO-5 beacon A 001 09 23 771 248 +18 Si W3ADO-5 beacon A 002 28 23 772 247 +20 o de W3ADO-5 beacon A 003 09 23 769 248 +20 tamn W3ADO-F beacon A 004 03 23 770 248 +20 Se l W3ADO-5 beacon A 005 00 23 769 246 +20 e tt W3ADO-5 beacon T 0.6 00 23 765 247 +21 W3ADHr5 beacon A 007 03 23 769 24ei +w 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Washington, DC (FM18lv) From dave at w0dhb.net Fri May 22 22:35:37 2015 From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 16:35:37 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 transponder Message-ID: <001301d094df$a00563b0$e0102b10$@w0dhb.net> This last pass of PSAT I was able to successfully decode myself and others (KI4ENY, K0RJV) using DM780 and MixW. Couple of observations: 1) MixW is the only PSK31 program I could find which can do full duplex, 2 running copies of DM780 and fldigi work also. 2) Using SATPC32 Doppler Shifting Uplnk and Downlink, set to 10 Hz interval with "times 10" selected kept the downlink signals fairly stable frequency wise. 3) Probably due to TLE's, Uplink signal downlinks about 400 Hz High. A recording of the pass can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/825x9wxwteh2273/FM%20435.358633MHz%20%5B12k%5D%205 -22-2015%2021%2020%2004.wav?dl=0 55 MB Dave W0DHB From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat May 23 12:46:08 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 08:46:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status (day 3) In-Reply-To: <2b66716d2036cb360cd884657ec4863a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2b66716d2036cb360cd884657ec4863a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01d09556$70c06f10$52414d30$@com> Congratulations Bob! It looks like another set of successful USNA satellites. I noticed Space Track isn't publishing keps for these as of yet. I know this has happened with previous DOD launches that had secondary payloads. Do you know if they will eventually provide them to the owners of the satellites (like previous launches) for them to distribute? I'd like to be able to track these automatically, and the current 6 minute difference is a bit much error for an AO-13 class system. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:54 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status (day 3) PSAT Summary - Day 3 * PSAT packet telemetry is OK, Digipeater will be off (secondary mission) * PSAT PSK31 transponder is ON with 28.120 MHz uplink! (primary mission) * WOD data fixed. Spin data now available. Right now it is at 3 RPM with +Z pointing at Sun * Launch TLE elements (below) are 6 minutes ahead of satellite * PCSAT.APRS.ORG web page is now also capturing PSAT telelmetry downlinks * BRICSAT telemetry has been heard but is cycling OFF due to low power * BRICSAT PSK31 downlink (also FM) has also been heard barely (when ON) * USS Langley not heard Only fault so far is the loss of the 4 day-fail-safe backup reset circuit (1 of 3) fail safe backup RESET capabilities. The lack of WOD data was because we had a LOW-POWER bits set that was holding it off. BRICSAT PSK31 transponder is on identical frequencies as PSAT's. You can tell them apart because one has PSK Telemetry on 315 Hz and the other is on 365 Hz. Both on the UHF FM downlink 435.350 MHz SUMMARY: PSAT: 145.825 - 1200 baud AX.25 telemetry - digi off PSAT PSK31#1: 435.350 FM down, 28.120 SSB PK31 uplink - Brno University Xponder BRICsat: 437.975 - 9600 baud telemetry downlink every 20s BRICsat PSK31#2 - same as PSAT but PSK TLM on 375 Hz (PSAT on 315 Hz) USS Langley - 437.975 9600 baud telemetry ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From vimone at alice.it Sat May 23 12:49:38 2015 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 14:49:38 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keplerians & Frequencies new satellites. Message-ID: Please i am looking for the Keplerians and the Frequencies for the following satellites: LightSail-A PSAT BRICsat USS Any help? Thanks Enzo. 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ********************************** ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** *** 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it *** ********************************* From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sat May 23 13:19:10 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 13:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status (day 3) In-Reply-To: <000c01d09556$70c06f10$52414d30$@com> References: <000c01d09556$70c06f10$52414d30$@com> Message-ID: <1319131430.1361936.1432387150481.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Yesterday @jasonrdavis (LightSail) tweeted: We may not get a new TLE until Monday, and apparently these aren't posted publicly - though I keep a TLE link at http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol 73 Trevor M5AKA On Saturday, 23 May 2015, 13:46, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: Congratulations Bob! It looks like another set of successful USNA satellites. I noticed Space Track isn't publishing keps for these as of yet. I know this has happened with previous DOD launches that had secondary payloads. Do you know if they will eventually provide them to the owners of the satellites (like previous launches) for them to distribute? I'd like to be able to track these automatically, and the current 6 minute difference is a bit much error for an AO-13 class system. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:54 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] USNA Sat Status (day 3) PSAT Summary - Day 3 * PSAT packet telemetry is OK, Digipeater will be off (secondary mission) * PSAT PSK31 transponder is ON with 28.120 MHz uplink! (primary mission) * WOD data fixed.? Spin data now available.? Right now it is at 3 RPM with +Z pointing at Sun * Launch TLE elements (below) are 6 minutes ahead of satellite * PCSAT.APRS.ORG web page is now also capturing PSAT telelmetry downlinks * BRICSAT telemetry has been heard but is cycling OFF due to low power * BRICSAT PSK31 downlink (also FM) has also been heard barely (when ON) * USS Langley not heard Only fault so far is the loss of the 4 day-fail-safe backup reset circuit (1 of 3) fail safe backup RESET capabilities.? The lack of WOD data was because we had a LOW-POWER bits set that was holding it off. BRICSAT PSK31 transponder is on identical frequencies as PSAT's.? You can tell them apart because one has PSK Telemetry on 315 Hz and the other is on 365 Hz.? Both on the UHF FM downlink 435.350 MHz SUMMARY: PSAT:? ? ? 145.825 - 1200 baud AX.25 telemetry - digi off PSAT PSK31#1:? 435.350 FM down, 28.120 SSB PK31 uplink - Brno University Xponder BRICsat:? 437.975 - 9600 baud telemetry downlink every 20s BRICsat PSK31#2 - same as PSAT but PSK TLM on 375 Hz (PSAT on 315 Hz) USS Langley - 437.975? 9600 baud telemetry ULTRASat3? 1 99993U? ? ? ? ? 15140.67013889? .00040043? 00000-0? 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dwarnberg at verizon.net Sat May 23 13:02:22 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:02:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Message-ID: <003101d09558$b86df920$2949eb60$@net> This is what I caught this morning in Florida on the12:46 UTC pass from PSAT. 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF [08:53:09] Hi! 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF [08:53:44] S#002723,0z200,a0McbLbcL0cLAbL00LcAMdaLdbL0cL0aLaAL 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF [08:54:03] PSKoff 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF [08:54:12] PSKoff 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF [08:54:21] PSKon 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF [08:54:52] S#002724,0z200,eBLd0LdaL0aL0ALcCLeBLd0LaaL00L0CLbDL 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF [08:54:57] T#960,768,361,497,921,867,00011100 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF [08:55:52] S#002725,0z200,dCLcALa0LA0LBCLAELaDLbBLa0LDaLEBLDDL David KK4QOE From hamsat at xs4all.nl Sat May 23 14:23:35 2015 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 16:23:35 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55608D67.2070800@xs4all.nl> Bob, Yesterday and today I performed detailed doppler measurements on high PSAT passes, both on 70 cm and on 2 m. I found that yesterday the satellite was 10 seconds early and today 14 seconds early, compared to the ULTRASat3 TLE set. I wonder why you think it is 6 minutes late. Maybe you were confused by the ASCII telemetry transmissions on 145.826 MHz of UoSAT-OSCAR 11, which passed about 6 minutes after PSAT? 73, Nico PA0DLO On 2015-05-22 20:21, Robert Bruninga wrote: > I am finding that PSAT is 6 MINUTES behind the predictions of the previously > provided original Launch TLE : > > ULTRASat3 > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 > > So until I get new ones. Just point at AOS and wait 6 miuntes. > > Also, I had said not to TX PSK31 on the 10m u plink until you heard the > downlink. Well, that was dumb advise, because the transponder does not come > up unless it hears PSK31! > > So the new rule is, Listen first. If not heard, TX anyway. If not heard > then, Fix your problem, and try again? > > We don?t know how the power budget will work out. So all we can do is > watch. > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john at papays.com Sat May 23 14:34:35 2015 From: john at papays.com (John Papay) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 10:34:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/MM update Message-ID: <260272.2418.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Yuri has left Norfolk and is on his way to Mariel Cuba. You may have seen him at anchor out in the bay after he left the berth. A fuel barge was next to him filling up his tanks! Yuri has sent mail to the following stations: KD8CAO W5PFG W5CBF N5UXT KJ4MCZ KO4MA WA4NVM K4FEG N2PPL K9HF K8II W1PA WN9Q. If you don't receive something in two weeks, please let me know. As you can imagine, it is no easy job to confirm so many contacts with so many different stations. He does what he can considering the time he can spare. It is a never ending job for him. You may have heard that WX4TV and his family were able to visit the ship yesterday just before it sailed. Yuri was very busy with his agents and last minute paperwork but one of the crew gave them a tour of the ship. I expect that Jim will be sharing some photos/video of that visit. We are very fortunate to have someone like Yuri take an interest in operating the satellites in hundreds of water grids. It's fun to make all of those contacts, but it is also a lot of work to get confirmations out when you are not at home. Yuri is an amazing operator and ambassador for ham radio. His callsign is recognized by vhf'ers around the world. Good luck to everyone trying to work him. The route down to Cuba should be new for many operators. 73, John K8YSE From kx9x at yahoo.com Sat May 23 14:36:49 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 10:36:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] KX9X/2 FN22 today 1704z Message-ID: <746CD0FC-00C9-46B2-9FF0-BE3EA7DBF651@yahoo.com> Hi all- I'm here in Cooperstown, NY, grid FN22. I have a 75-degree pass of SO50 from 1704-1720. Will be QRV for it. Cooperstown is in a significant valley, so I may only get on for the middle of the pass. Using a Handheld and Arrow antenna. Sent from Sean's iPad From bruninga at usna.edu Sat May 23 14:51:42 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 10:51:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early In-Reply-To: <55608D67.2070800@xs4all.nl> References: <55608D67.2070800@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <547ccce86c654dc8c4c6cbe5215e50c7@mail.gmail.com> Today, (over USA) I am finding satellite to be 8.5 minutes behind the ULTRAsat3 TLE. And get a very good match. I am listening to the PSK31 *FM* downlink on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz and swinging the beam and watching Doppler to confirm I am tracking well. But Nico (below) sees it on time in Europe. I cannot explain the difference... I am using the elements with an EPOC of 15 140.6701389 (shown below) which were released at separation. There have been no updates yet. As soon as I get them I will post them. I did just turn on 3 USA and 3 European packet bulletins. And adjusted the MA spacecraft counter so that the right bulletins will come on over the right continents. DIGI will remain off since PSK31 is working so well! Bob, Wb4APR -----Original Message----- From: Nico Janssen Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:24 AM Yesterday and today I performed detailed doppler measurements on high PSAT passes, both on 70 cm and on 2 m. I found that yesterday the satellite was 10 seconds early and today 14 seconds early, compared to the ULTRASat3 TLE set. I wonder why you think it is 6 minutes late. Maybe you were confused by the ASCII telemetry transmissions on 145.826 MHz of UoSAT-OSCAR 11, which passed about 6 minutes after PSAT? 73, Nico PA0DLO On 2015-05-22 20:21, Robert Bruninga wrote: > I am finding that PSAT is 6 MINUTES behind the predictions of the > previously provided original Launch TLE : > > ULTRASat3 > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 > > So until I get new ones. Just point at AOS and wait 6 miuntes. > > Also, I had said not to TX PSK31 on the 10m u plink until you heard > the downlink. Well, that was dumb advise, because the transponder > does not come up unless it hears PSK31! > > So the new rule is, Listen first. If not heard, TX anyway. If not > heard then, Fix your problem, and try again? > > We don?t know how the power budget will work out. So all we can do is > watch. > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From james at wx4tv.com Sat May 23 15:56:33 2015 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 11:56:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/MM update In-Reply-To: <260272.2418.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <260272.2418.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yuri's hospitality was incredible! Photos and a write-up will be forthcoming. We are in the process of moving to FL, so it may take a while. For those who have sent QSL cards to us, we have them and the replies WILL go out prior to our leaving VA. Please be patient and bear with the pandemonium that comes with moving a family of six! 73, James Lea - WX4TV Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2015, at 10:34, John Papay wrote: Yuri has left Norfolk and is on his way to Mariel Cuba. You may have seen him at anchor out in the bay after he left the berth. A fuel barge was next to him filling up his tanks! Yuri has sent mail to the following stations: KD8CAO W5PFG W5CBF N5UXT KJ4MCZ KO4MA WA4NVM K4FEG N2PPL K9HF K8II W1PA WN9Q. If you don't receive something in two weeks, please let me know. As you can imagine, it is no easy job to confirm so many contacts with so many different stations. He does what he can considering the time he can spare. It is a never ending job for him. You may have heard that WX4TV and his family were able to visit the ship yesterday just before it sailed. Yuri was very busy with his agents and last minute paperwork but one of the crew gave them a tour of the ship. I expect that Jim will be sharing some photos/video of that visit. We are very fortunate to have someone like Yuri take an interest in operating the satellites in hundreds of water grids. It's fun to make all of those contacts, but it is also a lot of work to get confirmations out when you are not at home. Yuri is an amazing operator and ambassador for ham radio. His callsign is recognized by vhf'ers around the world. Good luck to everyone trying to work him. The route down to Cuba should be new for many operators. 73, John K8YSE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc at fidmail.com Sat May 23 16:06:24 2015 From: af5cc at fidmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 16:06:24 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Oscar 7 Mode A Message-ID: Does anyone have a rough idea as to when Oscar 7 will start going back into Mode A every other day? 73 John AF5CC From k.swaggart at charter.net Sat May 23 16:13:00 2015 From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:13:00 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early In-Reply-To: <547ccce86c654dc8c4c6cbe5215e50c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <55608D67.2070800@xs4all.nl> <547ccce86c654dc8c4c6cbe5215e50c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8DA5AA9A9B614049A27B23EE85734962@BlackPC> The keps certainly look good here in Oregon. I had a predicted PSAT AOS out over the Pacific Ocean at 16:02:01Z and picked up the first PSK-31 beacon at 16:02:16Z. Ken, W7KKE -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 07:51 To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early Today, (over USA) I am finding satellite to be 8.5 minutes behind the ULTRAsat3 TLE. And get a very good match. I am listening to the PSK31 *FM* downlink on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz and swinging the beam and watching Doppler to confirm I am tracking well. But Nico (below) sees it on time in Europe. I cannot explain the difference... I am using the elements with an EPOC of 15 140.6701389 (shown below) which were released at separation. There have been no updates yet. As soon as I get them I will post them. I did just turn on 3 USA and 3 European packet bulletins. And adjusted the MA spacecraft counter so that the right bulletins will come on over the right continents. DIGI will remain off since PSK31 is working so well! Bob, Wb4APR -----Original Message----- From: Nico Janssen Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:24 AM Yesterday and today I performed detailed doppler measurements on high PSAT passes, both on 70 cm and on 2 m. I found that yesterday the satellite was 10 seconds early and today 14 seconds early, compared to the ULTRASat3 TLE set. I wonder why you think it is 6 minutes late. Maybe you were confused by the ASCII telemetry transmissions on 145.826 MHz of UoSAT-OSCAR 11, which passed about 6 minutes after PSAT? 73, Nico PA0DLO On 2015-05-22 20:21, Robert Bruninga wrote: > I am finding that PSAT is 6 MINUTES behind the predictions of the > previously provided original Launch TLE : > > ULTRASat3 > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 > > So until I get new ones. Just point at AOS and wait 6 miuntes. > > Also, I had said not to TX PSK31 on the 10m u plink until you heard > the downlink. Well, that was dumb advise, because the transponder > does not come up unless it hears PSK31! > > So the new rule is, Listen first. If not heard, TX anyway. If not > heard then, Fix your problem, and try again? > > We don?t know how the power budget will work out. So all we can do is > watch. > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tjschuessler at verizon.net Sat May 23 16:38:36 2015 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 11:38:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: PSAT Telemetry Message-ID: <006f01d09576$ea791df0$bf6b59d0$@net> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Schuessler [mailto:tjschuessler at verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 11:37 AM To: 'bruninga at usna.edu' Subject: FW: PSAT Telemetry Bob, Got a chance to listen to the PSAT PSK beacon this morning on what was to be the 1246Z pass. I used HDSDR controlled by SATPC32 to get the passband. HDSDR ot Digipan through a virtual audio cable to decode. The Doppler was off which makes sense with the Keps that are off from what was posted. Saw some initial short transmissions with gaps in between and then a rather long run of transmissions. I never saw any other PSK31 activity besides the data beacon. Someday soon I will give transmissions a shot. Attached is a file with the data I decoded this morning. Approximate time stamp of first beacon is at the head of the file. I know you have made some reference in BB emails as to what some of the parameters generally mean. Will there be more details or a telemetry decoder soon? I love the PSK transponder idea the University has created and look forward to giving it a try. 73, Tom, N5HYP From bruninga at usna.edu Sat May 23 17:36:31 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 13:36:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early (Which satellite?) Message-ID: <35dd8c49d90303bad8b9a6c04c1b03cf@mail.gmail.com> Was PSK TLLM channel on 315 Hz or 375 Hz? Were you also hearing PSAT 1200 baud packets on 145.825 at same time? AL0I suggests some of us might be hearing BRICsat (TLM on 375 Hz) While others (me) are hearing PSAT (TLM on 315 Hz) simultaneouisely with PSAT packets on 145.825 Bob -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ken Swaggart Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:13 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early The keps certainly look good here in Oregon. I had a predicted PSAT AOS out over the Pacific Ocean at 16:02:01Z and picked up the first PSK-31 beacon at 16:02:16Z. Ken, W7KKE -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 07:51 To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early Today, (over USA) I am finding satellite to be 8.5 minutes behind the ULTRAsat3 TLE. And get a very good match. I am listening to the PSK31 *FM* downlink on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz and swinging the beam and watching Doppler to confirm I am tracking well. But Nico (below) sees it on time in Europe. I cannot explain the difference... I am using the elements with an EPOC of 15 140.6701389 (shown below) which were released at separation. There have been no updates yet. As soon as I get them I will post them. I did just turn on 3 USA and 3 European packet bulletins. And adjusted the MA spacecraft counter so that the right bulletins will come on over the right continents. DIGI will remain off since PSK31 is working so well! Bob, Wb4APR -----Original Message----- From: Nico Janssen Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:24 AM Yesterday and today I performed detailed doppler measurements on high PSAT passes, both on 70 cm and on 2 m. I found that yesterday the satellite was 10 seconds early and today 14 seconds early, compared to the ULTRASat3 TLE set. I wonder why you think it is 6 minutes late. Maybe you were confused by the ASCII telemetry transmissions on 145.826 MHz of UoSAT-OSCAR 11, which passed about 6 minutes after PSAT? 73, Nico PA0DLO On 2015-05-22 20:21, Robert Bruninga wrote: > I am finding that PSAT is 6 MINUTES behind the predictions of the > previously provided original Launch TLE : > > ULTRASat3 > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 > > So until I get new ones. Just point at AOS and wait 6 miuntes. > > Also, I had said not to TX PSK31 on the 10m u plink until you heard > the downlink. Well, that was dumb advise, because the transponder > does not come up unless it hears PSK31! > > So the new rule is, Listen first. If not heard, TX anyway. If not > heard then, Fix your problem, and try again? > > We don?t know how the power budget will work out. So all we can do is > watch. > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Sat May 23 17:46:23 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 13:46:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early (WRONG!) Message-ID: NEVERMIND! End of SUBJECT Thread... The original TLE is good! ***I must have made a typo entering TLE into Instantrack and had to retard time by now 8.5 minutes to get it to work. But with same TLE in SATPC32 (copy pasted instead of manually enered) then predictions ARE CORRECT. So FORGET this THREAD. TLE's from launch day *are* OK. Back under my rock. Besides PSAT's PSK ID's as W3ADO-5 on 315 Hz and BRICsat's as W3ADO-6 on 375 Hz. Should be flying very very close to each other. Separation spring between them was only 1mm long. Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu] Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 1:37 PM To: 'AMSAT BB' Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early (Which satellite?) Was PSK TLLM channel on 315 Hz or 375 Hz? Were you also hearing PSAT 1200 baud packets on 145.825 at same time? AL0I suggests some of us might be hearing BRICsat (TLM on 375 Hz) While others (me) are hearing PSAT (TLM on 315 Hz) simultaneouisely with PSAT packets on 145.825 Bob -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ken Swaggart Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:13 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early The keps certainly look good here in Oregon. I had a predicted PSAT AOS out over the Pacific Ocean at 16:02:01Z and picked up the first PSK-31 beacon at 16:02:16Z. Ken, W7KKE -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 07:51 To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early Today, (over USA) I am finding satellite to be 8.5 minutes behind the ULTRAsat3 TLE. And get a very good match. I am listening to the PSK31 *FM* downlink on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz and swinging the beam and watching Doppler to confirm I am tracking well. But Nico (below) sees it on time in Europe. I cannot explain the difference... I am using the elements with an EPOC of 15 140.6701389 (shown below) which were released at separation. There have been no updates yet. As soon as I get them I will post them. I did just turn on 3 USA and 3 European packet bulletins. And adjusted the MA spacecraft counter so that the right bulletins will come on over the right continents. DIGI will remain off since PSK31 is working so well! Bob, Wb4APR -----Original Message----- From: Nico Janssen Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:24 AM Yesterday and today I performed detailed doppler measurements on high PSAT passes, both on 70 cm and on 2 m. I found that yesterday the satellite was 10 seconds early and today 14 seconds early, compared to the ULTRASat3 TLE set. I wonder why you think it is 6 minutes late. Maybe you were confused by the ASCII telemetry transmissions on 145.826 MHz of UoSAT-OSCAR 11, which passed about 6 minutes after PSAT? 73, Nico PA0DLO On 2015-05-22 20:21, Robert Bruninga wrote: > I am finding that PSAT is 6 MINUTES behind the predictions of the > previously provided original Launch TLE : > > ULTRASat3 > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 > > So until I get new ones. Just point at AOS and wait 6 miuntes. > > Also, I had said not to TX PSK31 on the 10m u plink until you heard > the downlink. Well, that was dumb advise, because the transponder > does not come up unless it hears PSK31! > > So the new rule is, Listen first. If not heard, TX anyway. If not > heard then, Fix your problem, and try again? > > We don?t know how the power budget will work out. So all we can do is > watch. > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k.swaggart at charter.net Sat May 23 17:50:00 2015 From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 10:50:00 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early (Which satellite?) In-Reply-To: <35dd8c49d90303bad8b9a6c04c1b03cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <35dd8c49d90303bad8b9a6c04c1b03cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <30DE86C268414489A670AE3225E515AF@BlackPC> For the 17:41Z pass - First packet seen, but not decoded, at 17:42. PSK-31 was at 311 Hz. Partial PSK decodes: B 022 25 22 803 248 +4 23 825 242 +1 W3ADO-r beacon B 024 00 23 860 241 +0 ? t Ken -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:36 To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early (Which satellite?) Was PSK TLLM channel on 315 Hz or 375 Hz? Were you also hearing PSAT 1200 baud packets on 145.825 at same time? AL0I suggests some of us might be hearing BRICsat (TLM on 375 Hz) While others (me) are hearing PSAT (TLM on 315 Hz) simultaneouisely with PSAT packets on 145.825 Bob -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ken Swaggart Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:13 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early The keps certainly look good here in Oregon. I had a predicted PSAT AOS out over the Pacific Ocean at 16:02:01Z and picked up the first PSK-31 beacon at 16:02:16Z. Ken, W7KKE -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 07:51 To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early Today, (over USA) I am finding satellite to be 8.5 minutes behind the ULTRAsat3 TLE. And get a very good match. I am listening to the PSK31 *FM* downlink on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz and swinging the beam and watching Doppler to confirm I am tracking well. But Nico (below) sees it on time in Europe. I cannot explain the difference... I am using the elements with an EPOC of 15 140.6701389 (shown below) which were released at separation. There have been no updates yet. As soon as I get them I will post them. I did just turn on 3 USA and 3 European packet bulletins. And adjusted the MA spacecraft counter so that the right bulletins will come on over the right continents. DIGI will remain off since PSK31 is working so well! Bob, Wb4APR -----Original Message----- From: Nico Janssen Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:24 AM Yesterday and today I performed detailed doppler measurements on high PSAT passes, both on 70 cm and on 2 m. I found that yesterday the satellite was 10 seconds early and today 14 seconds early, compared to the ULTRASat3 TLE set. I wonder why you think it is 6 minutes late. Maybe you were confused by the ASCII telemetry transmissions on 145.826 MHz of UoSAT-OSCAR 11, which passed about 6 minutes after PSAT? 73, Nico PA0DLO On 2015-05-22 20:21, Robert Bruninga wrote: > I am finding that PSAT is 6 MINUTES behind the predictions of the > previously provided original Launch TLE : > > ULTRASat3 > 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 > 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 > > So until I get new ones. Just point at AOS and wait 6 miuntes. > > Also, I had said not to TX PSK31 on the 10m u plink until you heard > the downlink. Well, that was dumb advise, because the transponder > does not come up unless it hears PSK31! > > So the new rule is, Listen first. If not heard, TX anyway. If not > heard then, Fix your problem, and try again? > > We don?t know how the power budget will work out. So all we can do is > watch. > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat May 23 20:36:33 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 16:36:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT announces mid-July launch with six U/V transponders Message-ID: <00a401d09598$287a84b0$796f8e10$@com> Alan Kung, BA1DU (CAMSAT CEO) recently sent AMSAT-NA a stunning press release: ?CAMSAT orchestrated CAS-3 amateur satellite system is now nearing completion, six Chinese amateur satellites will be launched in mid-July?it includes different weight category satellites, consists of a 20 kg, three 10 kg and two 1 kg satellites. All six satellites are equipped with substantially the same amateur radio payloads, a U/V mode linear transponder, a CW telemetry beacon and an AX.25 19.2k/9.6k baud GMSK telemetry downlink are attached in each of the six satellites, each set of amateur radio equipments has the same technical characteristics, but operates on different frequencies of 70cm band uplink and 2m band downlink.? See http://www.amsat.org/?p=4181 for further details. 73, Drew KO4MA From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Sun May 24 00:32:56 2015 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 00:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT announces mid-July launch with six U/V transponders In-Reply-To: <00a401d09598$287a84b0$796f8e10$@com> References: <00a401d09598$287a84b0$796f8e10$@com> Message-ID: <970896196.1044470.1432427576295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Woo Hoo From: Andrew Glasbrenner To: 'AMSAT BB' Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 3:36 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT announces mid-July launch with six U/V transponders Alan Kung, BA1DU (CAMSAT CEO) recently sent AMSAT-NA a stunning press release: ?CAMSAT orchestrated CAS-3 amateur satellite system is now nearing completion, six Chinese amateur satellites will be launched in mid-July?it includes different weight category satellites, consists of a 20 kg, three 10 kg and two 1 kg satellites. All six satellites are equipped with substantially the same amateur radio payloads, a U/V mode linear transponder, a CW telemetry beacon and an AX.25 19.2k/9.6k baud GMSK telemetry downlink are attached in each of the six satellites, each set of amateur radio equipments has the same technical characteristics, but operates on different frequencies of 70cm band uplink and 2m band downlink.? See http://www.amsat.org/?p=4181 for further details. 73, Drew KO4MA _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun May 24 02:18:07 2015 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 22:18:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-144 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-144 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * CAMSAT announces mid-July launch with six U/V transponders * 2015 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice * AMSAT 2015 Field Day Announcement - June 27-28 * Beijing may launch amateur satellites in July * Radio Amateur Sworn In as New NASA Deputy Administrator * AMSAT News Lit up on the Web, Forums, and Social Media * PSK31 and APRS CubeSat Status Update * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-144 ANS-144 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 144 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. May 24, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-144 CAMSAT announces mid-July launch with six U/V transponders Alan Kung, BA1DU (CAMSAT CEO) recently sent AMSAT-NA the following press release: CAMSAT orchestrated CAS-3 amateur satellite system is now nearing completion, six Chinese amateur satellites will be launched in mid- July,it includes different weight category satellites, consists of a 20 kg, three 10 kg and two 1 kg satellites. All six satellites are equipped with substantially the same amateur radio payloads, a U/V mode linear transponder, a CW telemetry beacon and an AX.25 19.2k/9.6k baud GMSK telemetry downlink are attached in each of the six satellites, each set of amateur radio equipments has the same technical characteristics, but operates on different frequencies of 70cm band uplink and 2m band downlink. During the years, CAMSAT works closely with DFH Satellite Co. Ltd to complete the project, which is Chinese government aerospace contractor and provided most of the support for this project. All the satellites are currently conducting final testing and inspection, here are the technical details: CAS-3A: ? Micro-satellite architecture ? Dimensions: 400Lx400Wx400H mm ? Mass: 20kg ? Stabilization: three-axis stabilization system with its +Y surface facing the earth ? Antenna: Deployable antenna, one 1/4? monopole VHF antenna with max.0dBi gain is located at +Z side and one 1/4? monopole UHF antenna with max.0dBi gain is located at ?Z side, close to the each edge of satellite body ? Uplink: 70cm band ? Downlink: 2m band ? Amateur radio payloads: Callsign: BJ1SB CW Telemetry Beacon: 50mW, 22wpm U/V Mode Linear Transponder: 100mW, 20kHz bandwidth, spectrum Inverting AX.25 telemetry: 100mW, 19.2k/9.6k baud GMSK CAS-3B, CAS-3C and CAS-3D: ? Micro-satellite architecture ? Dimensions: 250Lx250Wx250H mm ? Mass: 9kg ? Stabilization: three-axis stabilization system with its +Y surface facing the earth ? Antenna: Deployable antenna, one 1/4? monopole VHF antenna with max.0dBi gain is located at +Z side and one 1/4? monopole UHF antenna with max.0dBi gain is located at ?Z side, close to the each edge of satellite body ? Uplink: 70cm band ? Downlink: 2m band ? Amateur radio payloads: Callsign: BJ1SC ( for CAS-3B), BJ1SD ( for CAS-3C), BJ1SE (for CAS-3D CW Telemetry Beacon: 50mW, 22wpm U/V Mode Linear Transponder: 100mW, 20kHz bandwidth, spectrum Inverting AX.25 telemetry: 100mW, 19.2k/9.6k baud GMSK CAS-3E and CAS-3F: ? Cube-satellite architecture ? Dimensions: 110Lx110Wx110H mm ? Mass: 1.5kg ? Stabilization: Spinning stabilization using permanent magnet torquer ? Antenna: Deployable antenna, one 1/4? monopole VHF antenna with max.0dBi gain is located at +Z side and one 1/4? monopole UHF antenna with max.0dBi gain is located at ?Z side, close to the each edge of satellite body ? Uplink: 70cm band ? Downlink: 2m band ? Amateur radio payloads: Callsign: BJ1SF ( for CAS-3E), BJ1SG ( for CAS-3F) CW Telemetry Beacon: 50mW, 22wpm U/V Mode Linear Transponder: 100mW, 20kHz bandwidth, spectrum Inverting AX.25 telemetry: 100mW, 9.6k baud GMSK This launch will use an brand new Chinese launch vehicle named as Long March ? 6 (LM-6 or CZ-6) at Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center of China, CAS-3A will operate at about 450 km height sun-synchronous orbit, the other satellites will operate at about 530 km height sun- synchronous orbit. The launch will carry total of 20 satellites, there are other three satellites named as CAS-3G, CAS-3H and CAS-3I involved in amateur radio from other agencies of China will share the same launch, CAMSAT was assisting Chinese government administration to coordinate and allocate their frequencies, more details will be announced later. [ANS thanks Alan Kung, BA1DU and CAMSAT for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2015 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice It is time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of Directors election. Four director's terms expire this year: Barry Baines, WD4ASW, Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, Mark Hammond, N8MH, and Jerry Buxton, N0JY. In addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for one year terms. A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and call, and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304 Kensington, MD 20895-2526. In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by electronic means. These include e-mail, Fax, or electronic image of a petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to MARTHA at AMSAT.ORG or Faxed to (301)822-4371. No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June 15th at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional written nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST be received at the AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days following the close of nominations on June 15th. ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS. Alan Biddle WA4SCA AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary [ANS thanks Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT 2015 Field Day Announcement - June 27-28 It's that time of year again: Field Day! Each year the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) sponsors Field Day as a "picnic, a campout, practice for emergencies, an informal contest and, most of all, FUN!" The event takes place during a 24-hour period on the fourth weekend of June. For 2015, the event takes place during a 27-hour period from 1800 UTC on Saturday June 27, through 2100 UTC on Sunday June 28, Those who set up prior to 1800 UTC on June 27 can operate only 24 hours. The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) promotes its own version of Field Day for operation via the amateur satellites, held concurrently with the ARRL event. If you are considering ONLY the FM voice satellite SO-50 for your AMSAT Field Day focus - don't - unless you are simply hoping to make one contact for the ARRL rules bonus points. The congestion on FM LEO satellites was so intense in prior years that we must continue to limit their use to one-QSO-per-FM-satellite. This includes the International Space Station. You will be allowed one QSO if the ISS is operating voice. You will also be allowed one digital QSO with the ISS or any other digital, non-store-and-forward, packet satellite (if operational). Many good contacts can be made on the linear transponder satellites including AO-73, FO-29, and AO-7. During Field Day the transponders come alive like 20 meters on a weekend. The transponders on these satellites will support multiple simultaneous SSB or CW contacts. The 2015 AMSAT Field Day event is open to all Amateur Radio operators. Amateurs are to use the exchange as specified in ARRL rules for Field Day. The AMSAT competition is to encourage the use of all amateur satellites, both analog and digital. AMSAT Field Day information is also posted on the web at: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=216 [ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director of Contests and Awards, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Beijing may launch amateur satellites in July Mineo Wakita JE9PEL reports on his website that Beijing may launch satellites carrying amateur radio payloads in July 2015. It is understood the launch would be on a CZ-6 rocket from the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center. XW-2 (CAS-2) and LilacSat-2 will be carrying amateur radio payloads but at the time of writing it is not clear if Tiantuo-3 and ZDPS-2 may also have amateur radio payloads. Additionally it is reported elsewhere there may be up to 20? CubeSats on the launch. CAS-2A1 satellite: 270x270x250mm 2m CW telemetry beacon 100 mW 2m AX.25 digital telemetry beacon 500 mW 2m FM voice beacon 500 mW U/V mode Linear transponder 50 kHz 500 mW L/S mode Linear transponder 200 kHz 320 mW U/V mode APRS repeater CAS-2A2 satellite: 70cm CW telemetry beacon 100 mW 70cm AX.25 digital telemetry beacon 500 mW 13cm CW telemetry beacon 200 mW 3cm CW telemetry beacon 200 mW V/U mode Linear transponder 500 mW LilacSat-2 ? Harbin Institute of Technology Approx. 11 kg 20x20x20 cm Uplink: 145.825, 145.875 MHz Downlink: 437.200 MHz beacon 437.225 MHz FM/APRS Tiantuo-3 (TT-3) ? Small satellite from China?s National University of Defense Technology ZDPS-2 ? Nano-satellite mission of the Microsat Research Center Zhejiang University Source Mineo Wakita JE9PEL http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/lilacsat.htm [ANS thanks Mineo Wakita JE9PEL and AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Radio Amateur Sworn In as New NASA Deputy Administrator Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor Dava Newman, KB1HIK, has been sworn in as the deputy administrator of NASA. President Barack Obama appointed Newman last October, and the US Senate confirmed her appointment on April 27. The swearing-in took place on May 15 in her MIT office in Cambridge. Newman is Apollo Professor of Astronautics and Engineering Systems and the director of the Technology and Policy Program at MIT. She started her official duties as NASA's new deputy administrator on May 18 at the agency's headquarters in Washington, DC. "I'm very excited to be at NASA," said Newman. "I'm looking forward to being a part of the agency's work to expand humanity's reach into space, advance our journey to Mars and strengthen America's leadership here at home." NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, ex-KE4IQB, said he's long admired Newman. "Her talents and skills as an educator and technological innovator will bring a new energy to our NASA leadership team, and I'm ecstatic to have her on board," he said. Newman had been on the MIT faculty since 1993. Her research has included modeling human performance in low and microgravity conditions, examining the dynamics and control of astronaut motion, and the development of assisted walking devices for the physically handicapped. Possibly her most prominent project has been the development of the BioSuit, a skintight spacesuit that would give astronauts unprecedented comfort and freedom in exploration of planetary surfaces and extra-vehicular activity. An avid sailor, Newman has circumnavigated the globe. [ANS thanks the ARRL via Space Bulletin 008 ARLS008 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT News Lit up on the Web, Forums, and Social Media VP of User Services JaoAnne Maenpaa K9JKM noted "Our e-mail lists relayed the Fox-1 news from Dayton. Those lists have remained quiet while the web and social media were lit up with AMSAT's news from Dayton." AMSAT-NA Facebook has 1,789 members. AMSAT's Twitter has 6,770 followers. One of the biggest repeater systems in the Chicago area relays news feeds on their facebook page from the internet: https://www.facebook.com/suhfars?fref=nf which points to the QRZ.com posts: http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?480200-Fox-1-news-from-Dayton http://tinyurl.com/ANS144-QRZ-Report Southgate ARC news: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2015/may/fox_1_news_from_dayton.htm http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2015/may/fox_1_operating_guide.htm Amateur Radio Newsline Facebook group is referring readers to: ANS-135 Fox-1 News From Dayton which is a replay of the ANS bulletins AMSAT-UK and ARRL published the ARRL news item about AMSAT: http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/15/fox-1-launch-sept-geo-5-10-ghz/ http://tinyurl.com/ANS144-Hamvention JoAnne reports two links of video from the AMSAT Forum: First, the presentation by AMSAT president Barry Baines WD4ASW to open the forum... http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/62340146 Second, a portion of Tom Clark's K3IO Forum presentation at: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/62343338 Hams in Space posted a copy of their Dayton forum slides including mention of AMSAT at: http://hamsinspace.com/resource/Sat_Radio_7_07_Dayton.pdf [ANS thanks JoAnne K9JKM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- PSK31 and APRS CubeSat Status Update Martin G8JNJ reports receiving the PSAT PSK31 FM downlink on the online SUWS WebSDR located at Farnham near London. At 22:30 GMT on May 21, 2015 Bob Bruninga WB4APR posted the following update on the AMSAT Bulletin Board about the three USNA CubeSats PSAT, BRICSAT and USS Langley along with a guide on how to use the PSK31 transponder. We now have heard 4 of 5 transmitters from our 3 spacecraft all still in a close cluster: * PSAT packet is OK but WOD not working (no digipeating for users yet) * PSAT PSK31 downlink is ok [remember, it is FM!] * BRICSAT telemetry has been heard but is cycling OFF due to low power * BRICSAT PSK31 downlink (also FM) has also been heard barely (when ON) * USS Langley not heard PSAT CPU shows the 4 day-fail-safe backup reset circuit is not counting down, so we have lost this (1 of 3) fail safe backup RESET capabilities. Bad line of code already found. But cannot change it. PSAT is not properly reporting WOD data and S#? STATUS packets are being bundled until 255 byte packet length is reached and then it all comes down at once. Noone has captured any of these long packets. Please try with PASSALL ON so that you can receive partial packets. Awaiting permission from BRNO University to authorize HF user uplinks on PSAT PSK31. BRICSAT PSK31 transponder is on identical frequencies as PSAT?s. You can tell them apart because one has PSK Telemetry on 315 Hz and the other is on 365 Hz. Both on the UHF FM downlink 435.350 MHz We?d LOVE to hear from USS Langley, and we?d love to capture one of those long WOD packets from PSAT. Our ground station is only getting a few packets compared to some submissions from others. Keep it up. SUMMARY: 145.825 1.5U cubesat ? PSAT 1200 baud AX.25 435.350 same cubesat ? PSAT PSK31 FM ? Brno University transponder 437.975 1.5U cubesat ? BRICsat 9600 baud 435.350 same cubesat ? BRICsat PSK31 FM ? Brno University transponder 437.975 3.0U cubesat ? USS Langley 9600 bd ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Receiving the PSAT PSK31 FM downlink Receiving the PSAT (and BRICsat) 435.350 MHz FM downlink is as simple as placing your PSK31 laptop microphone next to the speaker on your FM satellite UHF receiver and just watching the waterfall. What you see is exactly what everyone else sees (its FM). There is no Doppler added to the tones due to your station?s position relative to the satellite. But you DO have to retune your FM radio at least 3 times during the pass (+5 kHz, 0, -5 kHz) to stay in the FM passband. [Note: UK users should remember to selected the wide FM (5 kHz deviation/25 kHz channel spacing) setting on their rigs] User uplinks, however, will shift in the waterfall according to each user?s position relative to the satellite. The shift can be as low as 1 Hz per second to as high as 6 Hz per second. This is because the uplink is on 10 meters where the Doppler rate is only 1/15th of what it would be on UHF. The TELEMETRY channel at 315 Hz (PSAT) or 375 Hz (BRICsat) is FIXED with no Doppler since it is generated onboard into the FM downlink WHAT TO DO: 1) We will need PSK31 authors to open the PSK31 frequency tracking to accommodate more than 1 Hz per second Doppler tracking. Current implementations can do 1 Hz/s but completely fail at 3 Hz/s. 2 Hz/s might work a little? 2) Until then, ANY uplink user that is in line with a direct overhead pass will have minimum Doppler at the start and end of his pass (1 Hz/sec) when the satellite is going right at him and directly away from him. (Though it will be MAX (6 Hz/sec) when it passes over her/his station). 3) Just turn on MULTI CHANNEL window and let the PSK31 decode everyone.The ones with the least Doppler at any instant may be decoded for a while! USERS can transmit later when BRNO University says it has completed its tests. Brno provided the transponders for use in the PSAT and BRICsat satellites. So start preparing your station to TX PSK31 on 10 meters SSB and to receive the audio from an FM UHF rig on 435.350 +/- 5 kHz steps of Doppler. DOWNLINK Limitations: The UHF downlink signal is only 300 mW and so a UHF beam is needed on the downlink. UPLINK RESTRICTIONS: *NOTHING MORE THAN* a Vertical 1/4 wave or Dipole is authorized on the 10m uplink and no more than 25 Watts (for now). Remember a 1/4 wave vertical is the ideal antenna because it maximizes the signal at lower angles and tapers the signal as the satellite gets closer. This keeps user uplinks about the same during a pass. Strong stations just drive down the AGC and ruin it for everyone. Use minimum power!! Remember, this is crossband FULL DUPLEX so you can see yourself in the downlink just like everyone else can see you. Act accordingly. And of course DO NOT TRANSMIT if you cannot see the waterfall ? Duh! Enjoy! Bob, WB4APR Listen to satellite signals in the 145 and 435-438 MHz bands from anywhere in the world using the online SUWS WebSDR located near London. Further details at http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/15/suws-websdr- moves-to-new-site/ [ANS thanks Bob WB4APR and AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News It is unlikely that there will be any contacts with the Columbus module station until after a crew change. >From 5-11-2015 through 7-26-2015, there will be no US Operational Segment (USOS) hams on board ISS. So any schools contacts during this period will be conducted by the ARISS Russia team. Watch http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled. [ANS thanks ARISS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + The AMSAT Office is closed from Friday, May 22nd through Monday, May 25th. Martha will be back in the office on Tuesday, May 26th. [ANS thanks the Martha for the above information] + These are the launch provided elements for PPOD 3 deployment that included PSAT: ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 The PSAT predictions are now available on the AMSAT web site using the keps Bob Bruninga provided for ULTRASat3 [ANS thanks Bob, WB4APR and Joe KM1P for the above information] + Tentative satellite pass plan for VP2MKV operation: We will attempt to be on the first two FO-29 ascending node passes June 11 through 20. If time allows we may be on the third ascending node those days. Those passes happen in late morning to mid afternoon Montserrat time. On those passes we will look first for South America when the satellite is south of us, then North America, then Europe during the short mutual window. If there are 2 meter or 6 meter terrestrial openings during the VHF contest June 13 and 14 we will not be on satellite at those times. [ANS thanks Jim WD0E for the above information] + The annual SA AMSAT Space Symposium will be held on 20 June at the Innovation Hub in Pretoria. Book your seat now to take advantage of the early bird registration fee. Details and booking form is on www.amsatsa.org.za [ANS thanks SA AMSAT for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX AMSAT User Services and the Editors of the AMSAT New Service pass on our condolences to ANS Weekly Co-Editor Joe Spier K6WAO and his family on the death of Joe's mother this week. In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, KC8YLD kc8yld at amsat dot org From davidahaworth at icloud.com Sat May 23 16:37:02 2015 From: davidahaworth at icloud.com (David Haworth) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:37:02 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early In-Reply-To: <8DA5AA9A9B614049A27B23EE85734962@BlackPC> References: <55608D67.2070800@xs4all.nl> <547ccce86c654dc8c4c6cbe5215e50c7@mail.gmail.com> <8DA5AA9A9B614049A27B23EE85734962@BlackPC> Message-ID: <3E372D7E-21B6-425C-833A-63DC34E524BD@icloud.com> PSAT-1>APOFF,ARISS [05/23/15 16:08:09]:T#151,879,075,549,914,873,00011100 Received APRS packet a few minutes ago at 05/23/15 16:08:09Z with Receiver: Kenwood TM-D710GA in Packet12 mode PC logging: Connected to PC with RS-232, using HyperTerminal to log packets. Antenna: Arrow 2 meter vertical 15? off the ground. My grid is CN85TQ north of Portland, OR. Do I understand corectly that PSAT-1 was digipeated through the ISS in this case? I did not see this in the recent activity on http://ariss.net/index.cgi?absolute=1 20150523155003 : RS0ISS]CQ,qAR,9W2JDY-1:]ARISS - International Space Station 20150523154803 : RS0ISS]CQ,qAR,9W2JDY-1:]ARISS - International Space Station 20150523151605 : PP5CAM-2]APUD01,RS0ISS*,SGATE,qAo,PY5UD:=2607.01SI04948.11W&** PP5CAM/PY5UD H24 BRAZILIAN ISS SAT GATE ** 20150523151246 : PP5CAM-2]APUD01,RS0ISS*,SGATE,qAo,PY5UD:=2607.01SI04948.11W&** PP5CAM/PY5UD H24 BRAZILIAN ISS SAT GATE ** 20150523151106 : PP5CAM-2]APUD01,RS0ISS*,SGATE,qAo,PY5UD:=2607.01SI04948.11W&** PP5CAM/PY5UD H24 BRAZILIAN ISS SAT GATE ** 20150523150828 : LU2HAM-6]APRS,RS0ISS*,PCSAT,RS0ISS-4,W3ADO-1,WIDE3-3,qAo,LU2HAM-1:=3120.48S/06418.04W`Sat Gate H-24 Cordob {UISS53} 20150523150800 : RS0ISS]CQ,qAo,LU2HAM-1:]ARISS - International Space Station 73, Clear and dark skies without RFI, David Haworth, WA9ONY http://www.stargazing.net/david > On May 23, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Ken Swaggart wrote: > > The keps certainly look good here in Oregon. I had a predicted PSAT AOS out over the Pacific Ocean at 16:02:01Z and picked up the first PSK-31 beacon at 16:02:16Z. > > Ken, W7KKE > > -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 07:51 > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT Elements are 6 minutes early > > Today, (over USA) I am finding satellite to be 8.5 minutes behind the > ULTRAsat3 TLE. And get a very good match. I am listening to the PSK31 *FM* > downlink on 435.350 +/- 5 KHz and swinging the beam and watching Doppler to > confirm I am tracking well. > > But Nico (below) sees it on time in Europe. I cannot explain the > difference... I am using the elements with an EPOC of 15 140.6701389 (shown > below) which were released at separation. There have been no updates yet. > As soon as I get them I will post them. > > I did just turn on 3 USA and 3 European packet bulletins. And adjusted the > MA spacecraft counter so that the right bulletins will come on over the > right continents. DIGI will remain off since PSK31 is working so well! > > Bob, Wb4APR > -----Original Message----- > From: Nico Janssen > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:24 AM > > Yesterday and today I performed detailed doppler measurements on high PSAT > passes, both on 70 cm and on 2 m. > I found that yesterday the satellite was 10 seconds early and today 14 > seconds early, compared to the ULTRASat3 TLE set. > > I wonder why you think it is 6 minutes late. Maybe you were confused by the > ASCII telemetry transmissions on 145.826 MHz of UoSAT-OSCAR 11, which passed > about 6 minutes after PSAT? > > 73, > Nico PA0DLO > > > On 2015-05-22 20:21, Robert Bruninga wrote: >> I am finding that PSAT is 6 MINUTES behind the predictions of the >> previously provided original Launch TLE : >> >> ULTRASat3 >> 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 >> 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 >> >> So until I get new ones. Just point at AOS and wait 6 miuntes. >> >> Also, I had said not to TX PSK31 on the 10m u plink until you heard >> the downlink. Well, that was dumb advise, because the transponder >> does not come up unless it hears PSK31! >> >> So the new rule is, Listen first. If not heard, TX anyway. If not >> heard then, Fix your problem, and try again? >> >> We don?t know how the power budget will work out. So all we can do is >> watch. >> >> Bob, WB4APR >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Clear and dark skies without RFI, David Haworth, WA9ONY http://www.stargazing.net/david davidahaworth at icloud.com From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com Sun May 24 03:02:39 2015 From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 23:02:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Camsat launches Message-ID: Very glad to hear we will get 6 linear birds up there, I just hope the orbit is higher... I hope one day they will get around the relay issue with HO-68, that was a awesome satellite. But anyways great news! From tjschuessler at verizon.net Sun May 24 04:00:03 2015 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom schuessler) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 23:00:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and Bricsat FM PSK on same frequencies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Okay so I am a bit confused about how this will work with two satellites both using FM modulation on the same frequency. FM has the capture ratio effect which basically means that if one signal is about twice as strong as the other that signal will capture the receiver and the other one may make a little background noise but won't be properly demodulates. If both of them are received at the same power level pretty much you just get noise a.k.a. SO-50 on a crowded day. So if these two satellites are transmitting simultaneously whichever one happens to be stronger at the moment will capture the receiver. Regardless of whether one of them has a audio frequency modulated on the carrier at 315 hertz while the other ones at 375 you're most likely going to not here both of them simultaneously Heard or displayed on a PSK waterfall. This may not be an issue in the future as the satellites drift apart from each other but right now as it seems to me they are pretty darn close so if they were both on they would be in the beam width of any directional antenna. Aside from the frequency of the PSK carrier itself as modulated on the FM, I would also have to assume that the call sign of the PSK data beacon is hopefully different. The PSK I decoded this morning had a beacon call sign of W3ADO-5. I would have to assume there is a different beacon call sign for both. In my reading I have not seen what the difference between the two would be. Looking forward to soon trying to test an uplink on 28.120 and see if I can hear myself. This looks like a good challenge. 73. Tom. N5HYP From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sun May 24 05:14:06 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 05:14:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT (and ARRL) at the IEEE International Microwave Symposium 2015 - report Message-ID: Hi! On Thursday, 21 May 2015, I represented AMSAT and the ARRL at the IEEE International Microwave Symposium 2015 that was at the Phoenix Convention Center in downtown Phoenix. The ARRL had a booth in the symposium's University Pavilion in the exhibit hall, manned by Ward Silver N0AX during this week. Other hams helped Ward earlier in the week, and I was able to take a day off and spend Thursday at the booth. Along with Ward, Hermann Schumacher DF2DR, a professor from the University of Ulm in Germany, was also there with me. Although this was not an amateur radio event, there were lots of hams from around the world in the exhibit hall, and many students - high school and university students. The high school students were from different schools around the Phoenix area, and the university students were from universities in the USA and other countries. In addition to talking about the ARRL and amateur radio generally, Thursday was promoted at the ARRL booth as the satellite day, complete with on-air demonstrations in the afternoon. I brought my satellite equipment. I brought some AMSAT Getting Started with Amateur Satellites books, frequency guides, and Fox flyers to go with the ARRL literature. During the morning, I learned that Hermann had worked AO-6 in the 1970s, but had moved away from satellite operating. He enjoys SOTA operating on HF, and I think he's looking to give the satellites another try when he returns home. I had 3 demonstrations during the afternoon, starting with an SO-50 pass just after 1930 UTC (12.30pm local time). I was able to work Dave W0DHB in Colorado from outside the convention center, and then listen to the remainder of the pass. Although I only logged one QSO, being able to hear the pileups on SO-50 impressed the crowd. The FO-29 pass around 2124 UTC was the most fruitful pass of the day. Not only was it busy, I had my largest crowd of the 3 demonstrations. We walked across the street from the convention center to a pedestrian bridge over Washington Street, and had a good view of the sky from over the street. I used one FT-817ND and my Elk log periodic antenna, and this was the first time I had worked FO-29 half-duplex. I have heard others do this, and I remember reading an AMSAT Journal article in 2005 by Drew KO4MA detailing how to do this. It worked! I logged 6 QSOs with stations across the continental USA, and the crowd enjoyed hearing the locations of those stations. Thanks to K8YSE, AA5PK, N8HM, K0MDJ, KE4KOL, and N5AFV for calling and being a part of this demonstration! This was a great way to show off the coverage of our satellites, and how they could be used with a very simple station like my FT-817ND and Elk antenna. In the crowd for this FO-29 pass were a pair of university students from Turkey, who are working on CubeSats at their university. They were not familiar with amateur radio, and I have since e-mailed them information about amateur radio, amateur radio organizations in Turkey, and more information about AMSAT. I had taken a couple of pictures of them, and I also included the pictures with my e-mail. The later FO-29 pass, around 2310 UTC, yielded only one QSO, with Wyatt AC0RA. I was standing on the same pedestrian bridge outside the convention center, pointing my antenna to the west over downtown Phoenix on a 40-degree pass. For those keeping score, or logs, this symposium was in grid DM33xk. I have uploaded my QSOs to Logbook of the World, and a few have turned into QSLs. I will also send special QSL cards to everyone I worked during these satellite demonstrations. Hermann DF2DR assembled a short video that includes parts of the first two demonstrations I gave, and some photos from the symposium. You can see this video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYzzgkPrmuw This symposium is a great example of a non-ham event where an amateur radio presence can reach many who have never heard of the hobby. Simply hanging a poster, or laying out flyers, with references to web sites would not have had the same effect as a booth with hams ready and able to talk about the hobby in general, and our satellites specifically. Thanks to Ward and Sean Kutzko KX9X at the ARRL for inviting me to be a part of the ARRL's booth at the symposium. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From simon at sdr-radio.com Sun May 24 06:57:19 2015 From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 07:57:19 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT announces mid-July launch with six U/V transponders In-Reply-To: <970896196.1044470.1432427576295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <00a401d09598$287a84b0$796f8e10$@com> <970896196.1044470.1432427576295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005501d095ee$e0b09b90$a211d2b0$@sdr-radio.com> Ah, Reading the full press release I see they are LEOs. Must learn to read proper. Simon Brown G4ELI http://v2.sdr-radio.com -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Phelps Woo Hoo From simon at sdr-radio.com Sun May 24 06:51:46 2015 From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 07:51:46 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] CAMSAT announces mid-July launch with six U/V transponders In-Reply-To: <970896196.1044470.1432427576295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <00a401d09598$287a84b0$796f8e10$@com> <970896196.1044470.1432427576295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005401d095ee$19bfa710$4d3ef530$@sdr-radio.com> Woo Hoo indeed. Do we know the projected orbit yet? If just LEO it's a welcome addition, if MEO then even better. Simon Brown G4ELI http://v2.sdr-radio.com -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Phelps Woo Hoo From caleriffic at paradise.net.nz Sun May 24 09:04:05 2015 From: caleriffic at paradise.net.nz (Sil) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 21:04:05 +1200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT In-Reply-To: <555CDB8C.1060107@frcuba.co.cu> References: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> <555CDB8C.1060107@frcuba.co.cu> Message-ID: <55619405.1000800@paradise.net.nz> Copied down here using very basic gear : Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [08:46:39] T#134,822,077,835,838,822,00011100 May 24, 2015 (Time is UT) Sil - ZL2CIA From vimone at alice.it Sun May 24 09:35:17 2015 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 11:35:17 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Message-ID: Hi to the list, this morning i had a pass of the PSAT. I could hear it on 435.350 MHz, with the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus, but couldn't understand how to decode it. I've tried in USB and could hear a sound that could not understand it Also tried in FM but could hear just the background noise. Please anybody can tell me where to listen? Frequency and mode and also which program to use to decode it? Any help will be really appreciated. 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ********************************** ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** *** 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it *** ********************************* From Mvivona at yahoo.com Sun May 24 12:51:29 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 08:51:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Message-ID: <2156868C-DA28-4181-A926-CA253988ABE0@yahoo.com> Heard a nice strong pass of PSAT this morning over Florida at 12:35Z. Handheld with Arrow antenna. No decode setup yet. The IOS app "GoSatWatch" tracked it perfectly on its way over. I plan on having decode setup for the next high pass. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad From kx9x at yahoo.com Sun May 24 13:45:34 2015 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 09:45:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] KX9X/2 QRV So50 Sunday 1730z Message-ID: Hi all- I'll be on SO50 from FN22 again today from 1730-1745z. This is a 50 degree westerly pass for me, and probably the last pass I will do from FN22. Hope to work you. Sent from Sean's iPad From bruninga at usna.edu Sun May 24 14:56:55 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 10:56:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and Bricsat FM PSK on same frequencies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <835f099c08a7be546571f9704a1ed498@mail.gmail.com> > ... how will this work with two FM satellites on the same frequency? The idea is to serve users no matter which spacecraft is in view. And to not have the users have to always change frequencies and track different objects. Imagine a camper in the field. Just point your beam towards AOS generally and set +5 KHz tuing and when a satellite comes into view, you can use it. Many things separate them: 1) Distance 2) Time 3) Doppler 4) Users antenna beamwidth When they are 5 minutes apart, the beam headings will be over 90 degrees apart (10 to 15 dB separation), the Doppler will be typically 10 KHz (10-15 dB separation) for a total of 20-30 dB or more to prevent capture effect. Since an orbit is 95 minutes long, and the satellites will drift, then 95% of the time, this condition of at least 5 minute separation, will be met. PSAT PSK (W3ADO-5) was built over 3 years ago and is hardwired to power up by default (maximum chance it will work despite spacecraft packet link or other failures) BRIC PSK (W3ADO-6) was built just last year and has independent control by Brno designers (can be off while sats are adjacent) It also powers up by default (again, for maximum availability in case of bus failure). So I think the choice pretty much meets the goals of maximum availability to users and as independent of spacecraft failures as we could make them. Hope that Helps. Bob, WB4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Tom schuessler Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 12:00 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and Bricsat FM PSK on same frequencies Okay so I am a bit confused about how this will work with two satellites both using FM modulation on the same frequency. FM has the capture ratio effect which basically means that if one signal is about twice as strong as the other that signal will capture the receiver and the other one may make a little background noise but won't be properly demodulates. If both of them are received at the same power level pretty much you just get noise a.k.a. SO-50 on a crowded day. So if these two satellites are transmitting simultaneously whichever one happens to be stronger at the moment will capture the receiver. Regardless of whether one of them has a audio frequency modulated on the carrier at 315 hertz while the other ones at 375 you're most likely going to not here both of them simultaneously Heard or displayed on a PSK waterfall. This may not be an issue in the future as the satellites drift apart from each other but right now as it seems to me they are pretty darn close so if they were both on they would be in the beam width of any directional antenna. Aside from the frequency of the PSK carrier itself as modulated on the FM, I would also have to assume that the call sign of the PSK data beacon is hopefully different. The PSK I decoded this morning had a beacon call sign of W3ADO-5. I would have to assume there is a different beacon call sign for both. In my reading I have not seen what the difference between the two would be. Looking forward to soon trying to test an uplink on 28.120 and see if I can hear myself. This looks like a good challenge. 73. Tom. N5HYP _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Sun May 24 15:01:36 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 11:01:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT In-Reply-To: <55619405.1000800@paradise.net.nz> References: <7a4ced201fffe64e8044203734cc3fa7@mail.gmail.com> <555CDB8C.1060107@frcuba.co.cu> <55619405.1000800@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: Thanks! You are first one to send in data in the dark. It is COLD... Solar panels 835 and 838 =-6C Battery at 822 = 4C But it must have been in the evening after sunset, because I think it gets very cold before sunrise. Bob -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Sil Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:04 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Copied down here using very basic gear : Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [08:46:39] T#134,822,077,835,838,822,00011100 May 24, 2015 (Time is UT) Sil - ZL2CIA _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Sun May 24 15:03:13 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 11:03:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6740e43b5b814383feacf7dcf90cd2ad@mail.gmail.com> UHF downlink is FM. Just send audio to any PSK31 software Bob, WB4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vincenzo Mone Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:35 AM To: Amsat - BBs Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Hi to the list, this morning i had a pass of the PSAT. I could hear it on 435.350 MHz, with the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus, but couldn't understand how to decode it. I've tried in USB and could hear a sound that could not understand it Also tried in FM but could hear just the background noise. Please anybody can tell me where to listen? Frequency and mode and also which program to use to decode it? Any help will be really appreciated. 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ********************************** ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** *** 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it *** ********************************* _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Sun May 24 16:57:52 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 12:57:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) Message-ID: PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with 6 bars using a decent UHF Yagi. But we have not seen any users other than those using the 28.120 PSK channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment with it. Everyone within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be uplinked and heard on the 435.350 MHz downlink. The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with plenty of power (we are keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for PSK31). PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS tracker http://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The PSK31 transponder is a single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy in the Czech Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing is a simple Parallax Basic Stamp. PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in a 1.5U package since the flight was available and it gave us more power for our NON-SPACE solar cells. We are using standard silicon that are only half as efficient as multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as much. PSAT has a single 21" VHF and 72" long HF whip. It has two UHF 6" orthogonal monopoles, all of very thin Nitinol wire. More details will eventually follow as the page will be updated over the coming weeks. http://aprs.org/psat.html * PSAT packet telemetry is OK, Digipeater will be off (secondary mission) * PSAT PSK31 transponder is ON with 28.120 MHz uplink! (primary mission) * WOD data fixed. Spin data now available. Right now it is at 3 RPM with +Z pointing 45 deg off Sun * Launch TLE elements (below) are still very good * http://PCSAT.APRS.ORG web page is now capturing PSAT telelmetry that users inject into the APRS-IS * BRICSAT telemetry has been heard but is cycling OFF due to low power * BRICSAT PSK31 downlink (also FM) has also been heard barely (when ON) * USS Langley not heard FREQUENCIES: PSAT: 145.825 - 1200 baud AX.25 telemetry - digi off PSAT PSK31-5: 435.350 FM down, 28.120 SSB PK31 uplink - Brno University Xponder BRICsat: 437.975 - 9600 baud telemetry evry 20s BRICsat PSK31-6 - same as PSAT but PSK TLM on 375 Hz (PSAT on 315 Hz) USS Langley - 437.475 9600 baud telemetry <== CORRECTION ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 24 18:42:47 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 18:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Nine CAS-3 satellites to launch in July Message-ID: <173989375.2041369.1432492967335.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Alan BA1DU has provided some additional information on the July launch and has confirmed that CAS-2A and CAS-2B, also with linear transponders, will be launched at a later date. Nine CAS-3 amateur radio satellites to launch in July http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/24/nine-cas-3-ham-radio-satellites/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK ---- From caleriffic at paradise.net.nz Sun May 24 20:28:21 2015 From: caleriffic at paradise.net.nz (Sil) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 08:28:21 +1200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Psat Message-ID: <55623465.6030807@paradise.net.nz> Bob, Yes, it was. The time stamp is UT, which is 20:46 local time (dark now, almost winter). None of my steerable antennas are up yet, following a move into the city. I copied PSAT on a ground plane with a short length (5 metres maybe) of thin coax to a FT857D. PSAT must have a good signal. Sil ZL2CIA On 25/05/15 03:01, Robert Bruninga wrote: > Thanks! > You are first one to send in data in the dark. > It is COLD... > Solar panels 835 and 838 =-6C > Battery at 822 = 4C > > But it must have been in the evening after sunset, because I think it gets > very cold before sunrise. > > Bob From mvivona at yahoo.com Sun May 24 21:19:18 2015 From: mvivona at yahoo.com (mvivona at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 21:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] First PSAT PKS31 decode Message-ID: <305543743.1314141.1432502358094.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> My first?PSK31 beacon decode from PSAT using IC7000 controlled by HRD/DM780. On the 21:00Z pass over Florida just now. h-5 beacon B ?11 99 44 787 248 +2? ?e7W3ADO-5 beaconai ?923 784 248 +21 w? tW3ADO-5 beacon B ?13 18 23 783 24+22 W3ADO-5 beacon B ?14 31 35 796 244 +1L o ?Michael VivonaKC4ZVA From g.shirville at btinternet.com Sun May 24 22:10:15 2015 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 23:10:15 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Mode changes Message-ID: <8D0784F2D5664971B51EA25D7E0C794E@allgood.local> Hi All, Just to confirm that FUNcube-1 was commanded back into autonomous mode this evening at around 22:00 UTC. We are planning on switching back to continuous Amateur Mode next weekend but will be making this change, exceptionally, during one of the Friday morning passes over Europe rather than in the evening. This is to enable the FUNcube development team to attend a meeting over the weekend. best 73 Graham G3VZV From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon May 25 03:23:21 2015 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 22:23:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and Bricsat FM PSK on same frequencies Message-ID: <001d01d0969a$270a97c0$751fc740$@net> Bob, Your explanation to my questions make much more sense now that I worked another pass of the satellites. Today the two were sufficiently separated that I could see one lagging behind and thus higher up in frequency because of Doppler shift. Your explanation on why the same frequencies for the two birds is quite nice. Also the frequency offset difference for the PSK beacons as well as the different IDs work as well. Bricsat was quite a bit weaker but that was probably because I was trying to track PSAT with my Arrow on a tripod. It was also a couple of Khz higher up. I also saw the difference in the two beacons so now I know how to tell which from which. I did try transmitting PSK31 USB on 28.120 + 1Khz or so and listening through HDSDR on 435.350. I heard faint signals of other PSK signals but believe they were just some other terrestrial QSOs and not directed through the satellite. They were slipping down the DIgipan waterfall as they would be without correction. I was not doing correction either on 28Mhz but I was hoping, even on playback of the HDSDR I/Q recording, to find me but I never did. Going to try a different software configuration next weekend to try and hear myself live. The best time to test PSK through these satellite transponders will be overnight passes when possible so as to avoid terrestrial stations from calling other terrestrials and confusing things. Will have to wait for times to shift for that. 73, Tom, N5HYP ____________________________ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 10:56:55 -0400 From: Robert Bruninga To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT and Bricsat FM PSK on same frequencies Message-ID: <835f099c08a7be546571f9704a1ed498 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > ... how will this work with two FM satellites on the same frequency? The idea is to serve users no matter which spacecraft is in view. And to not have the users have to always change frequencies and track different objects. Imagine a camper in the field. Just point your beam towards AOS generally and set +5 KHz tuing and when a satellite comes into view, you can use it. Many things separate them: 1) Distance 2) Time 3) Doppler 4) Users antenna beamwidth When they are 5 minutes apart, the beam headings will be over 90 degrees apart (10 to 15 dB separation), the Doppler will be typically 10 KHz (10-15 dB separation) for a total of 20-30 dB or more to prevent capture effect. Since an orbit is 95 minutes long, and the satellites will drift, then 95% of the time, this condition of at least 5 minute separation, will be met. PSAT PSK (W3ADO-5) was built over 3 years ago and is hardwired to power up by default (maximum chance it will work despite spacecraft packet link or other failures) BRIC PSK (W3ADO-6) was built just last year and has independent control by Brno designers (can be off while sats are adjacent) It also powers up by default (again, for maximum availability in case of bus failure). So I think the choice pretty much meets the goals of maximum availability to users and as independent of spacecraft failures as we could make them. Hope that Helps. Bob, WB4aPR From 4x4hsc at gmail.com Sun May 24 21:44:49 2015 From: 4x4hsc at gmail.com (Herzliya Science Center) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 00:44:49 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT-1 registration is on Message-ID: Dear all, The registration process for DUCHIFAT-1 is open and functional. Please register and transmit your COMPRESSED APRS packets to the satellite. It might take us few days between satellite dumps according to the students schedule.. After successfull dumps all stations received by the satellite will appear on our site map, and a QSL card will be sent back.... The site contains several guides: 1. A walk through the registration process 2. Terms of use on how to use the satellite 3. How to configure the Byonics TinyTrak4 for generating the right packets 4. S/W and installation guide for telemetry decoding Link: http://www.h-space-lab.org good luck! 73 The HSC team From k7trkradio at charter.net Sun May 24 21:55:06 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 14:55:06 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT in HRD Message-ID: <005501d0966c$4c082160$e4186420$@charter.net> Question: My HRD Sat program is now pulling keps (from amsat, Celestrak and NORAD links) and lists a satellite as 'PSAT'. However, I question that as the program is not yet listing ULTRSat3, as Bob B. has published. Is there an old 'PSAT' ? Also, is there another graphical site that shows the current 'PSAT' location web or android phone) Tnx, K7TRK From py4zbz at yahoo.com Mon May 25 11:17:45 2015 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Psat transponder Message-ID: <1122030345.1017071.1432552665798.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> My PicFall signal via Psat transponder !Up 28,120 kHz USB 10W dipole antenna. 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ in GH70un From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Mon May 25 12:58:32 2015 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 07:58:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/VE2 - FN35 & FN26 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've returned from my trip to Canada and will be uploading the QSO's I made to ARRL's Logbook of the World over the next week. All QSO's are uploaded with my W5PFG/VE2 callsign certificate. If you have uploaded and do not see a QSL within two weeks, please send me a direct email. I'll be sending out a special, trip-themed, printed QSL card for the trip to all stations in my log. It will be a few weeks before that happens; therefore, if you are in a hurry to receive the grid confirmation send me a SASE and I'll reply with my generic /P card. 73 Clayton W5PFG On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: > I'll be visiting Montreal, QC, Canada again in a couple of weeks. > Several individuals have asked me about operating satellites from grid > FN26. With those requests in mind, I will travel to FN26 for two > orbits of FO-29. I do not know the specific passes at this time. > > There are a few others who are looking to have FN35 confirmed. I will > post about those operations on Twitter @w5pfg shortly before and > during the US Memorial Day Weekend Holiday. > > Please email me off-BB if you are interested in the FN26 operation. > > Thank you, > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Mon May 25 14:16:25 2015 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:16:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016101d096f5$62575970$27060c50$@com> I copied a fair amount of telemetry on the PSK downklink just now on the ~1410z pass, which was a low one. W3ADO-5 beacon B 038 34 29 793 257 +8 e e e W3ADO-5 beacon B 039 53 23 785 260 +12 Oe t{ t W3ADO-5 beacon B 040 34 23 799 257 +7 itostC e o ?adi o ee eoO t eD W3ADO-5 beacon B 041 34 23 787 257 +9 tr W3ADO-5 beacon B 042 06 23 782 260 +12 ae W3ADO-5 beacon B 043 71 22 781 259 +14 ro W3ADO-5 beacon B 044 34 23 791 258 +14 - a W3ADO-5 beacon B 045 31 23 780 257 +15 oa W3ADO-5 beacon B 046 21 23 777 255 +17 i O W3ADO-5 beacon B 047 ao oeiet le Er58 +17 r W3ADO-5 beacon B 048 53 23 776 256 +18 eeds W3ADO-5a gn< i|atd eAt oa ea wy=o W3ADO-5 beacon B 000 34 23 787 257 +16 N W3ADO-5 beacon B 001 40 23 776 256 +18 nR ?ecn t eti? i W3ADO-5 beacon B 002 40 25 785 258 ena htil Ftt W3ADO-5 beacon B 003 40 23 775 255 +19 oestro mi 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 12:58 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with 6 bars using a decent UHF Yagi. But we have not seen any users other than those using the 28.120 PSK channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment with it. Everyone within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be uplinked and heard on the 435.350 MHz downlink. The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with plenty of power (we are keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for PSK31). PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS tracker http://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The PSK31 transponder is a single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy in the Czech Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing is a simple Parallax Basic Stamp. PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in a 1.5U package since the flight was available and it gave us more power for our NON-SPACE solar cells. We are using standard silicon that are only half as efficient as multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as much. PSAT has a single 21" VHF and 72" long HF whip. It has two UHF 6" orthogonal monopoles, all of very thin Nitinol wire. More details will eventually follow as the page will be updated over the coming weeks. http://aprs.org/psat.html * PSAT packet telemetry is OK, Digipeater will be off (secondary mission) * PSAT PSK31 transponder is ON with 28.120 MHz uplink! (primary mission) * WOD data fixed. Spin data now available. Right now it is at 3 RPM with +Z pointing 45 deg off Sun * Launch TLE elements (below) are still very good * http://PCSAT.APRS.ORG web page is now capturing PSAT telelmetry that users inject into the APRS-IS * BRICSAT telemetry has been heard but is cycling OFF due to low power * BRICSAT PSK31 downlink (also FM) has also been heard barely (when ON) * USS Langley not heard FREQUENCIES: PSAT: 145.825 - 1200 baud AX.25 telemetry - digi off PSAT PSK31-5: 435.350 FM down, 28.120 SSB PK31 uplink - Brno University Xponder BRICsat: 437.975 - 9600 baud telemetry evry 20s BRICsat PSK31-6 - same as PSAT but PSK TLM on 375 Hz (PSAT on 315 Hz) USS Langley - 437.475 9600 baud telemetry <== CORRECTION ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Mon May 25 14:21:51 2015 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 14:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ULTRAsat telemetry Message-ID: <427559679.1672067.1432563711322.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I copied the following BPSK31 this morning at around 1410z on 435.350 FM. Now I just need to figure out what I was hearing and how to make sense of it! Any help? Is this PSAT? W3ADOhel tee{ n ? ete nw 90 23 790 255 +12 ?sa i?W3ADO-5 beacon B 037 37 23 782 257 +14W3ADO-5 beacon B 040 34 23 799 257 +7 ? ? i ?to ?nie( ? ? ?i QTetiee t/l iW3ADO-5 beacon B 041 34 23 787 257 +9 ?f ? t?W3ADO-5 beacon B 042 06 23 782 260 +12 v ??W3ADO-5 beacon B 043 71 22 781 259 +14 t ? ?oeen ??W3ADO-5 beacon B 047 65 23 777 258 +17 te ? ?W3ADO-5 beacon B 048 53 23 776 256 +18 thl aW3ADO-5M ?a ? at ?t n o saot0 t: ? ? ?eoo ?ee?W3ADO-5 beacon B 000 34 23 787 257 +16 ?tAW3ADO-5 beacon B 001 40 23 776 256 +18 ? r e ?ttuoe ? ? eietW3ADO-5 beacon B 002 40 25 785 258 +17 9tetW3ADO-5 beacon B 003 40 23 775 255 +19 nan e o f ?t ?eno?--?Mark D. Johns, K?MDJDecorah, Iowa USA EN43-----------------------------------------------?"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,?you would stay out and your dog would go in."???? ---Mark Twain From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon May 25 14:24:57 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 09:24:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d096f6$944363b0$bcca2b10$@GMAIL.COM> Bob, Below is my capture from the 1400 UTC pass over Nashville today. I noticed 2 Doppler shifted signals, but also one nearly vertical indicating they were compensating. The local terrain is too irregular to get a good AOS time, but I found that the signal was 4 KHz low, +/- about 500 Hz over the pass. That is about what I saw Sunday. Still no Keps from Space Track. 73s, Alan WA4SCA W3ADO-5 beacon B ?33 ?9 23 788 259 +1? W3ADO-5 beacon B ?34 59 23 787 258 +12 t,? W3ADO-5 beacon B ?35 25 23 786 257 +13 Ito ottoc.e eP tet W3ADO-5 beacon B ?36 4? 23 79? 255 +12 eilo W3ADO-5 beacon B ?37 37 23 782 257 +14 e - W3ADO-5 beacon B ?38 34 29 793 257 +8 i W3ADO-5 beacon B ?39 53 23 785 26? +12 oV - W3ADO-5 beacon B ?4 s 34 23 799 257 +7 y - W3ADO-5 beacon B ?41 34 23 787 257 +9 ? W3ADO-5 beacon B ?42 ?6 23 782 26? +12 }w W3ADO-5 beacon B ?43 71 22 781 E"9 +14 - W3ADO-5 beacon B ?44 34 23 791 258 +s 4 W3ADO-5 beacon B ?45 31 23 78? 257 +15 =n W3ADO-5 beacon B ?s6 21 23 777 255 +17 o W3ADO-5 beacon B ?47 65 23 777 258 +17 iMn W3ADO-5 beacon B ?48 53 23 776 256 +18 - W3ADO-5 beacon B ??? 34 23 787 257 +16 QX W3ADO-5 beacon B ??1 4? 23 776 256 +18 - W3ADO-5 beacon B ??2 4? 25 785 258 +17 W3ADO-5 beacon B ??3 4? 23 775 255 +19 edt - W3ADO-5 beacon B ??4 34 32 79? 257 +13 to - W3ADO-5 beacon B ??7 31 23 785 257 +11 tv From bruninga at usna.edu Mon May 25 14:31:34 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:31:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT - BRICsat data? Message-ID: <19bf82f0b08ceac4553e3a08087baa9e@mail.gmail.com> PSAT ? BRICsat: > Do you still want folks to send them in or are you getting want you want from the aprs.org site? We need people (who have time) to concentrate on capturing data from BRICsat on 437.975 9600 baud. PSAT seems stable and telemetry from volunteers is coming into the pcsat.aprs.org site OK. I am torn between using my UHF receiver for montoring PSAT PSK31, or concentrating on BRICsat.. But we need to figure out what is going on with BRICsat and try to rescue it. The PSK transponder on BRICsat is newer and better. I had been commanding PSK on PSAT to ON on every pass. But realized that would be masking the weak PSK31 beacons from BRICsat. SO I have stopped doing that. Now PSAT PSK is in auto ? meaning it will come on if there is a user, but otherwise it will only come on once every 5m with a beacon. I will be going on travel for a week starting tonight, and so PSAT is on its own. The BRICsat command team will be returning to the Academy on Wed and may begin command efforts then. Hence the value of capturing any data to point them in the right direction. Bob, WB4APR From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Mon May 25 14:36:40 2015 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 14:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ULTRAsat telemetry In-Reply-To: <427559679.1672067.1432563711322.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <427559679.1672067.1432563711322.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <630390001.1700885.1432564600422.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Stupid mail client stripped out all the Returns. Sorry. Trying again. W3ADOhel tee{ n ete nw 90 23 790 255 +12 sa i W3ADO-5 beacon B 037 37 23 782 257 +14 W3ADO-5 beacon B 040 34 23 799 257 +7 i to nie( i QTetiee t/l i W3ADO-5 beacon B 041 34 23 787 257 +9 f t W3ADO-5 beacon B 042 06 23 782 260 +12 v ? W3ADO-5 beacon B 043 71 22 781 259 +14 t oeen W3ADO-5 beacon B 047 65 23 777 258 +17 te W3ADO-5 beacon B 048 53 23 776 256 +18 thl a W3ADO-5M a at t n o saot0 t: eoo ee W3ADO-5 beacon B 000 34 23 787 257 +16 tA W3ADO-5 beacon B 001 40 23 776 256 +18 r e ttuoe eiet W3ADO-5 beacon B 002 40 25 785 258 +17 9tet W3ADO-5 beacon B 003 40 23 775 255 +19 nan e o f t eno-- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain ________________________________ From: Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB To: AMSAT BB Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:21 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] ULTRAsat telemetry I copied the following BPSK31 this morning at around 1410z on 435.350 FM. Now I just need to figure out what I was hearing and how to make sense of it! Any help? Is this PSAT? W3ADOhel tee{ n ete nw 90 23 790 255 +12 sa i W3ADO-5 beacon B 037 37 23 782 257 +14W3ADO-5 beacon B 040 34 23 799 257 +7 i to nie( i QTetiee t/l iW3ADO-5 beacon B 041 34 23 787 257 +9 f t W3ADO-5 beacon B 042 06 23 782 260 +12 v ? W3ADO-5 beacon B 043 71 22 781 259 +14 t oeen W3ADO-5 beacon B 047 65 23 777 258 +17 te W3ADO-5 beacon B 048 53 23 776 256 +18 thl aW3ADO-5M a at t n o saot0 t: eoo ee W3ADO-5 beacon B 000 34 23 787 257 +16 tAW3ADO-5 beacon B 001 40 23 776 256 +18 r e ttuoe eietW3ADO-5 beacon B 002 40 25 785 258 +17 9tetW3ADO-5 beacon B 003 40 23 775 255 +19 nan e o f t eno -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJDecorah, Iowa USA EN43----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From Mvivona at yahoo.com Mon May 25 15:48:42 2015 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:48:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT in HRD In-Reply-To: <005501d0966c$4c082160$e4186420$@charter.net> References: <005501d0966c$4c082160$e4186420$@charter.net> Message-ID: <4C2767B1-EC48-4001-A8CB-B58C56F8FA42@yahoo.com> I have been using HRD with PSAT as listed. It tracks just fine. I have decoded the downlink also with HRD/DM 780. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Ted wrote: Question: My HRD Sat program is now pulling keps (from amsat, Celestrak and NORAD links) and lists a satellite as 'PSAT'. However, I question that as the program is not yet listing ULTRSat3, as Bob B. has published. Is there an old 'PSAT' ? Also, is there another graphical site that shows the current 'PSAT' location web or android phone) Tnx, K7TRK _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dwarnberg at verizon.net Mon May 25 15:56:43 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:56:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT-1 Message-ID: <003601d09703$659d2d40$30d787c0$@net> 40 degree pass at 11:36 EST and I heard nothing.. Anyone heard from this SAT? Thanks David KK4QOE From dan at post.com Mon May 25 16:02:14 2015 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 17:02:14 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT in HRD In-Reply-To: <4C2767B1-EC48-4001-A8CB-B58C56F8FA42@yahoo.com> References: <005501d0966c$4c082160$e4186420$@charter.net> <4C2767B1-EC48-4001-A8CB-B58C56F8FA42@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Amsat is listing the following TLEs on: http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt PSAT 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 BRICSAT-P 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 LIGHTSAIL-1 1 91919U 15999A 15140.67013889 .00040047 00000-0 10233-2 0 00004 2 91919 054.9991 339.9648 0250932 182.3369 074.3135 15.12540571000018 PCSAT and BRCSAT-P are the same From skristof at etczone.com Mon May 25 17:14:13 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 13:14:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT-1 In-Reply-To: <003601d09703$659d2d40$30d787c0$@net> References: <003601d09703$659d2d40$30d787c0$@net> Message-ID: <12D4B99CEBE64B61B919299B3CDBFB41@StevePC> I heard some digital signals from Duchifat and even decoded something around 11:43 EDT. I'm in southeast Indiana at EM79ji. I'm sending the telemetry to the Duchifat folks to see what I got. Steve AI9IN Oldenburg IN EM79ji ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L Warnberg" To: Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT-1 > 40 degree pass at 11:36 EST and I heard nothing.. Anyone heard from this > SAT? > > > > Thanks > > > > David > > KK4QOE > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com Mon May 25 22:05:48 2015 From: rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com (rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 17:05:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] rupeshdlad2738.rl@gmail.com has indicated you're a friend. Accept? Message-ID: <0.0.EE.567.1D097361066913A.2DE8@mail7.flipmailer.com> Hi, rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com wants to follow you. ****** Is rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com you friend? ****** If Yes please follow the link below: http://invites.flipmailer.com/signup_e.html?fullname=&email=amsat-bb at amsat.org&invitername=Rupesh&inviterid=37962369&userid=0&token=0&emailmasterid=3e397477-740e-4961-947f-9e2b65622367&from=rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com&template=invite_reg_b&test=AA&src=txt_yes If No please follow the link below: http://invites.flipmailer.com/signup_e.html?fullname=&email=amsat-bb at amsat.org&invitername=Rupesh&inviterid=37962369&userid=0&token=0&emailmasterid=3e397477-740e-4961-947f-9e2b65622367&from=rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com&template=invite_reg_b&test=AA&src=txt_no Follow the link below to remove yourself from all such emails http://invites.flipmailer.com/uns_inviter.jsp?email=amsat-bb at amsat.org&iid=3e397477-740e-4961-947f-9e2b65622367&from=rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com From lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar Mon May 25 22:54:01 2015 From: lw8exs at yahoo.com.ar (Pablo J.M. - LW8EXS) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 19:54:01 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] report rx PSAT-1 Message-ID: <7856A71AB3FD465EADB10FC836E28678@PC1> TIME UTC 22:48 2:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [19:48:08R] T#381,840,089,671,824,808,00011100 Pablo - LW8EXS Buenos Aires - Argetina From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Tue May 26 16:32:43 2015 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 12:32:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re; PSAT in HRD Message-ID: <2f778344dc6e72d8496031f1ce47c72d.squirrel@alum.wpi.edu> >Is there an old 'PSAT' ? AMSAT has never listed any other spacecraft as PSAT. In general, the TLE's in nasabare.txt are the best available and are updated as significantly better element sets present themselves. In the last week I have been using elements provided by USNA and the Planetary Society as appropriate for PSAT, BRICsat and Lightsail. Once NORAD has sorted out all the objects from this launch, they will be updated weekly with the other objects in nasabare.txt ISS continues to be updated at least daily with data from NASA Johnson space flight center. - Joe KM1P From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Tue May 26 18:27:00 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:27:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT - BRICsat data? In-Reply-To: <19bf82f0b08ceac4553e3a08087baa9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <19bf82f0b08ceac4553e3a08087baa9e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5564BAF4.10700@denstarfarm.us> On 25-May-15 1031, Robert Bruninga wrote: > We need people (who have time) to concentrate on capturing data from > BRICsat on 437.975 9600 baud. I'm using satpc32. where do I find the elements for BRICsat? I don't see it in the 'Groups' . 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From dwarnberg at verizon.net Tue May 26 18:46:56 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:46:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT - BRICsat data? In-Reply-To: <5564BAF4.10700@denstarfarm.us> References: <19bf82f0b08ceac4553e3a08087baa9e@mail.gmail.com> <5564BAF4.10700@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <004e01d097e4$574dd280$05e97780$@net> I did not see any elements for BRICSat however it does show up now on the AMSAT prediction page.. http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/satloc.php?lang=en&satellite=BR ICSAT-P Thanks David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bob KD7YZ Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT - BRICsat data? On 25-May-15 1031, Robert Bruninga wrote: > We need people (who have time) to concentrate on capturing data from > BRICsat on 437.975 9600 baud. I'm using satpc32. where do I find the elements for BRICsat? I don't see it in the 'Groups' . 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Tue May 26 22:00:53 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 17:00:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Listen for LightSail - transmissions stopped Message-ID: <006301d097ff$6fda5a60$4f8f0f20$@net> Just read on-line at http://planet.ly/0gVop (Planetary Society) that the LightSail satellite stopped transmitting. The team is attempting a reboot. The telemetry data is sent on a downlink of 437.435 MHz, AX.25, 9600 bps FSK. Excerpt from their page ... As of late Friday afternoon, LightSail was continuing to operate normally. The spacecraft's ground stations at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and Georgia Tech were receiving data on each pass. Power and temperature readings were trending stably, and the spacecraft was in good health. But inside the spacecraft's Linux-based flight software, a problem was brewing. Every 15 seconds, LightSail transmits a telemetry beacon packet. The software controlling the main system board writes corresponding information to a file called beacon.csv. If you're not familiar with CSV files, you can think of them as simplified spreadsheets-in fact, most can be opened with Microsoft Excel. As more beacons are transmitted, the file grows in size. When it reaches 32 megabytes-roughly the size of ten compressed music files-it can crash the flight system. The manufacturer of the avionics board corrected this glitch in later software revisions. But alas, LightSail's software version doesn't include the update. Late Friday, the LightSail team received a heads-up warning them of the vulnerability. A fix was quickly devised to prevent the spacecraft from crashing, and it was scheduled to be uploaded during the next ground station pass. But before that happened, LightSail's automated chirps fell silent. The last data packet received from the spacecraft was May 22 at 21:31 UTC (5:31 p.m. EDT). A LightSail map tracking application is at: http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services From my.callsign at verizon.net Tue May 26 23:57:44 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 16:57:44 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Listen for LightSail - transmissions stopped In-Reply-To: <006301d097ff$6fda5a60$4f8f0f20$@net> References: <006301d097ff$6fda5a60$4f8f0f20$@net> Message-ID: <55650878.2020700@verizon.net> Confirmed, nothing heard on the 23:45utc Pacific pass 5/26/15. KO6TZ From dan at post.com Wed May 27 08:01:16 2015 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 09:01:16 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT - BRICsat data? In-Reply-To: <004e01d097e4$574dd280$05e97780$@net> References: <19bf82f0b08ceac4553e3a08087baa9e@mail.gmail.com> <5564BAF4.10700@denstarfarm.us> <004e01d097e4$574dd280$05e97780$@net> Message-ID: On 26/05/2015, David L Warnberg wrote: > I did not see any elements for BRICSat however it does show up now on the > AMSAT prediction page.. BRICSAT-P 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 This is based on predicted launch data, nothing better available yet. From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 27 08:47:23 2015 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 08:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR News articles wanted + Adding new sats to SatPC32 and Gpredict Message-ID: <435288302.113428.1432716443679.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Any articles for the next issue of the AMSAT-UK publication OSCAR News would be gratefully received by the Editors Jim Heck G3WGM and Graham Shirville G3VZV. Their contact details are at http://amsat-uk.org/about/contact-us/ The LightSail satellite has stopped transmitting. The team is attempting a reboot.The telemetry data is sent on a downlink of 437.435 MHz, AX.25, 9600 bps FSK. http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/26/lightsail-1-stops-transmitting/ UK radio amateurs use PSK31 satellite transponder http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/26/uk-hams-use-psk31-transponder/ 29 MHz ? the forgotten frequency for amateur radio satellites http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/25/29-mhz-satellite-uplinks/ Nine CAS-3 amateur radio satellites to launch in July http://amsat-uk.org/2015/05/24/nine-cas-3-ham-radio-satellites/ Adding new satellites to SatPC32, Gpredict and Nova http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/23/adding-new-satellites-to-satpc32/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK ---- From wa4sca at gmail.com Wed May 27 10:14:55 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 05:14:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT - BRICsat data? In-Reply-To: References: <19bf82f0b08ceac4553e3a08087baa9e@mail.gmail.com> <5564BAF4.10700@denstarfarm.us> <004e01d097e4$574dd280$05e97780$@net> Message-ID: <000601d09865$fb3333a0$f1999ae0$@GMAIL.COM> Because the primary payload was classified, they are being very slow in providing the Keps for the other spacecraft. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: <> I did not see any elements for BRICSat however it does show up now on the <> AMSAT prediction page.. < References: <006301d097ff$6fda5a60$4f8f0f20$@net> Message-ID: Good grief. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:00 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: > Just read on-line at http://planet.ly/0gVop (Planetary Society) that the > LightSail satellite stopped transmitting. The team is attempting a reboot. > The telemetry data is sent on a downlink of 437.435 MHz, AX.25, 9600 bps > FSK. > > Excerpt from their page ... > As of late Friday afternoon, LightSail was continuing to operate normally. > The spacecraft's ground stations at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and Georgia > Tech were receiving data on each pass. Power and temperature readings were > trending stably, and the spacecraft was in good health. > > But inside the spacecraft's Linux-based flight software, a problem was > brewing. Every 15 seconds, LightSail transmits a telemetry beacon packet. > The software controlling the main system board writes corresponding > information to a file called beacon.csv. If you're not familiar with CSV > files, you can think of them as simplified spreadsheets-in fact, most can > be > opened with Microsoft Excel. > > As more beacons are transmitted, the file grows in size. When it reaches 32 > megabytes-roughly the size of ten compressed music files-it can crash the > flight system. The manufacturer of the avionics board corrected this glitch > in later software revisions. But alas, LightSail's software version doesn't > include the update. > > Late Friday, the LightSail team received a heads-up warning them of the > vulnerability. A fix was quickly devised to prevent the spacecraft from > crashing, and it was scheduled to be uploaded during the next ground > station > pass. But before that happened, LightSail's automated chirps fell silent. > The last data packet received from the spacecraft was May 22 at 21:31 UTC > (5:31 p.m. EDT). > > A LightSail map tracking application is at: > http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org > AMSAT VP User Services > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Co-Founder and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC Research Professor Virginia Tech Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Wed May 27 10:48:37 2015 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 06:48:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Listen for LightSail - transmissions stopped In-Reply-To: <006301d097ff$6fda5a60$4f8f0f20$@net> References: <006301d097ff$6fda5a60$4f8f0f20$@net> Message-ID: The reboot will work but only if it erases beacon.csv otherwise it will crash on the first telemetry packet. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:00 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: > Just read on-line at http://planet.ly/0gVop (Planetary Society) that the > LightSail satellite stopped transmitting. The team is attempting a reboot. > The telemetry data is sent on a downlink of 437.435 MHz, AX.25, 9600 bps > FSK. > > Excerpt from their page ... > As of late Friday afternoon, LightSail was continuing to operate normally. > The spacecraft's ground stations at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and Georgia > Tech were receiving data on each pass. Power and temperature readings were > trending stably, and the spacecraft was in good health. > > But inside the spacecraft's Linux-based flight software, a problem was > brewing. Every 15 seconds, LightSail transmits a telemetry beacon packet. > The software controlling the main system board writes corresponding > information to a file called beacon.csv. If you're not familiar with CSV > files, you can think of them as simplified spreadsheets-in fact, most can > be > opened with Microsoft Excel. > > As more beacons are transmitted, the file grows in size. When it reaches 32 > megabytes-roughly the size of ten compressed music files-it can crash the > flight system. The manufacturer of the avionics board corrected this glitch > in later software revisions. But alas, LightSail's software version doesn't > include the update. > > Late Friday, the LightSail team received a heads-up warning them of the > vulnerability. A fix was quickly devised to prevent the spacecraft from > crashing, and it was scheduled to be uploaded during the next ground > station > pass. But before that happened, LightSail's automated chirps fell silent. > The last data packet received from the spacecraft was May 22 at 21:31 UTC > (5:31 p.m. EDT). > > A LightSail map tracking application is at: > http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org > AMSAT VP User Services > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Co-Founder and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC Research Professor Virginia Tech Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) From bryce.salmi at gmail.com Wed May 27 11:07:11 2015 From: bryce.salmi at gmail.com (Bryce Salmi) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:07:11 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Listen for LightSail - transmissions stopped In-Reply-To: References: <006301d097ff$6fda5a60$4f8f0f20$@net> Message-ID: This is a good example of "let the engineering unit run over the weekend" Bryce On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 03:49 Robert McGwier wrote: > The reboot will work but only if it erases beacon.csv otherwise it will > crash on the first telemetry packet. > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:00 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: > > > Just read on-line at http://planet.ly/0gVop (Planetary Society) that the > > LightSail satellite stopped transmitting. The team is attempting a > reboot. > > The telemetry data is sent on a downlink of 437.435 MHz, AX.25, 9600 bps > > FSK. > > > > Excerpt from their page ... > > As of late Friday afternoon, LightSail was continuing to operate > normally. > > The spacecraft's ground stations at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and Georgia > > Tech were receiving data on each pass. Power and temperature readings > were > > trending stably, and the spacecraft was in good health. > > > > But inside the spacecraft's Linux-based flight software, a problem was > > brewing. Every 15 seconds, LightSail transmits a telemetry beacon packet. > > The software controlling the main system board writes corresponding > > information to a file called beacon.csv. If you're not familiar with CSV > > files, you can think of them as simplified spreadsheets-in fact, most can > > be > > opened with Microsoft Excel. > > > > As more beacons are transmitted, the file grows in size. When it reaches > 32 > > megabytes-roughly the size of ten compressed music files-it can crash the > > flight system. The manufacturer of the avionics board corrected this > glitch > > in later software revisions. But alas, LightSail's software version > doesn't > > include the update. > > > > Late Friday, the LightSail team received a heads-up warning them of the > > vulnerability. A fix was quickly devised to prevent the spacecraft from > > crashing, and it was scheduled to be uploaded during the next ground > > station > > pass. But before that happened, LightSail's automated chirps fell silent. > > The last data packet received from the spacecraft was May 22 at 21:31 UTC > > (5:31 p.m. EDT). > > > > A LightSail map tracking application is at: > > http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol > > > > -- > > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > > k9jkm at amsat.org > > AMSAT VP User Services > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > -- > Bob McGwier > Co-Founder and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC > Research Professor Virginia Tech > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From skristof at etczone.com Wed May 27 11:11:23 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 07:11:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Digipeater QSOs Message-ID: I'm still looking for QSOs through the ISS digipeater. There's a pass in a couple of minutes, but I'm open to making a sked in the future. Thanks! Steve AI9IN Oldenburg IN EM79ji From g0mrf at aol.com Wed May 27 13:54:23 2015 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 09:54:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14d95a711a9-c2e-8cd@webprd-m108.mail.aol.com> Congratulations Bob and USNA on another successful spacecraft. I listened for the first time this morning and could hear the beacon and transponded PSK31 without any trouble. But I was not expecting the 435.350 carrier to stop every now and again. What determines if the carrier is on or off. - Beacon timing.- OK, but is the transmitter also PSK activated in someway? Or is it a timer. Very nice for saving power. Thanks David G0MRF -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga To: AMSAT BB Sent: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:58 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with 6 bars using a decent UHF Yagi. But we have not seen any users other than those using the 28.120 PSK channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment with it. Everyone within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be uplinked and heard on the 435.350 MHz downlink. The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with plenty of power (we are keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for PSK31). PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS tracker http://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The PSK31 transponder is a single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy in the Czech Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing is a simple Parallax Basic Stamp. PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in a 1.5U package since the flight was available and it gave us more power for our NON-SPACE solar cells. We are using standard silicon that are only half as efficient as multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as much. From bruninga at usna.edu Wed May 27 14:41:57 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 10:41:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence In-Reply-To: <14d95a711a9-c2e-8cd@webprd-m108.mail.aol.com> References: <14d95a711a9-c2e-8cd@webprd-m108.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: PSAT PSK31 is always in AUTO mode. It will come up whenever it hears PSK31 on the 28.120 uplink. Bob, WB4APR On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, David G0MRF wrote: > Congratulations Bob and USNA on another successful spacecraft. > > I listened for the first time this morning and could hear the beacon and > transponded PSK31 without any trouble. > > But I was not expecting the 435.350 carrier to stop every now and again. > > What determines if the carrier is on or off. - Beacon timing.- OK, but is > the transmitter also PSK activated in someway? Or is it a timer. > Very nice for saving power. > > Thanks > > David G0MRF > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Bruninga > To: AMSAT BB > Sent: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:58 > Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) > > PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with 6 bars using a > decent > UHF Yagi. > > But we have not seen any users other than those using the 28.120 > PSK > channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment with it. > Everyone > within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be > uplinked and heard > on the 435.350 MHz downlink. > > The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with > plenty of power (we are > keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for > PSK31). > > PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS > trackerhttp://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The PSK31 transponder is > a > single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy in the > Czech > Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing is a > simple > Parallax Basic Stamp. > > PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in > a 1.5U package since the > flight was available and it gave us more power for our > NON-SPACE solar > cells. We are using standard silicon that are only half as > efficient as > multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as much. > > > From dwarnberg at verizon.net Wed May 27 16:25:17 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 12:25:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 baud and IC-9100 Message-ID: <005101d09899$b8345500$289cff00$@net> Ok, so I'm hearing something I cannot verify. I have be trying to capture 9600 baud packets from BRICSat. Now I discover on the IC-9100 yahoo group someone is saying the IC-9100 does not handle 9600 baud packets over the USB port. I find this hard to believe but can any confirm or deny this claim? I have had issues catching anything with the IC-9100 and 9600 baud packets so was wondering if it was the setup or the radio. All feedback welcome please.. David, KK4QOE From lists at kc9doa.com Wed May 27 19:12:59 2015 From: lists at kc9doa.com (Mike Miller) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:12:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence In-Reply-To: References: , <14d95a711a9-c2e-8cd@webprd-m108.mail.aol.com>, Message-ID: <5566173B.23850.8C22736@lists.kc9doa.com> Is the uplink on 28.120 + audio or does the psk31 signal need to be at 28.120 i.e. 28.119 USB with 1000 Hz psk31? I copied some beacons but didn't see anything from my attempt to uplink. 73 Mike kc9doa On 27 May 2015 at 10:41, Robert Bruninga wrote: > PSAT PSK31 is always in AUTO mode. It will come up whenever it > hears PSK31 > on the 28.120 uplink. > > Bob, WB4APR > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, David G0MRF > wrote: > > > Congratulations Bob and USNA on another successful > spacecraft. > > > > I listened for the first time this morning and could hear the > beacon and > > transponded PSK31 without any trouble. > > > > But I was not expecting the 435.350 carrier to stop every now > and again. > > > > What determines if the carrier is on or off. - Beacon > timing.- OK, but is > > the transmitter also PSK activated in someway? Or is it a > timer. > > Very nice for saving power. > > > > Thanks > > > > David G0MRF > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Bruninga > > To: AMSAT BB > > Sent: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:58 > > Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) > > > > PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with 6 > bars using a > > decent > > UHF Yagi. > > > > But we have not seen any users other than those using the > 28.120 > > PSK > > channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment with > it. > > Everyone > > within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be > > uplinked and heard > > on the 435.350 MHz downlink. > > > > The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with > > plenty of power (we are > > keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for > > PSK31). > > > > PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS > > trackerhttp://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The PSK31 > transponder is > > a > > single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy in > the > > Czech > > Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing is > a > > simple > > Parallax Basic Stamp. > > > > PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in > > a 1.5U package since the > > flight was available and it gave us more power for our > > NON-SPACE solar > > cells. We are using standard silicon that are only half as > > efficient as > > multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as much. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! > Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kc6nhj at charter.net Wed May 27 19:37:51 2015 From: kc6nhj at charter.net (Mike) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 12:37:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence In-Reply-To: <5566173B.23850.8C22736@lists.kc9doa.com> References: , <14d95a711a9-c2e-8cd@webprd-m108.mail.aol.com>, <5566173B.23850.8C22736@lists.kc9doa.com> Message-ID: <000801d098b4$9f4ad080$dde07180$@charter.net> Mike, I used my day to day DM780 settings. Dial setting was 28.120 and I just picked the middle of the waterfall to TX. On the RX, you need to keep the cursor moving as the trace moves quickly. It does not stay in one place like normal psk 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mike Miller Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:13 PM To: Robert Bruninga Cc: amsat bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence Is the uplink on 28.120 + audio or does the psk31 signal need to be at 28.120 i.e. 28.119 USB with 1000 Hz psk31? I copied some beacons but didn't see anything from my attempt to uplink. 73 Mike kc9doa On 27 May 2015 at 10:41, Robert Bruninga wrote: > PSAT PSK31 is always in AUTO mode. It will come up whenever it hears > PSK31 on the 28.120 uplink. > > Bob, WB4APR > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, David G0MRF > wrote: > > > Congratulations Bob and USNA on another successful > spacecraft. > > > > I listened for the first time this morning and could hear the > beacon and > > transponded PSK31 without any trouble. > > > > But I was not expecting the 435.350 carrier to stop every now > and again. > > > > What determines if the carrier is on or off. - Beacon > timing.- OK, but is > > the transmitter also PSK activated in someway? Or is it a > timer. > > Very nice for saving power. > > > > Thanks > > > > David G0MRF > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Bruninga > > To: AMSAT BB > > Sent: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:58 > > Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) > > > > PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with 6 > bars using a > > decent > > UHF Yagi. > > > > But we have not seen any users other than those using the > 28.120 > > PSK > > channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment with > it. > > Everyone > > within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be uplinked > > and heard on the 435.350 MHz downlink. > > > > The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with plenty of power (we are > > keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for PSK31). > > > > PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS > > trackerhttp://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The PSK31 > transponder is > > a > > single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy in > the > > Czech > > Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing is > a > > simple > > Parallax Basic Stamp. > > > > PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in a 1.5U package since > > the flight was available and it gave us more power for our NON-SPACE > > solar cells. We are using standard silicon that are only half as > > efficient as multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as much. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From lists at kc9doa.com Wed May 27 19:50:34 2015 From: lists at kc9doa.com (Mike Miller) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:50:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence In-Reply-To: <000801d098b4$9f4ad080$dde07180$@charter.net> References: , <5566173B.23850.8C22736@lists.kc9doa.com>, <000801d098b4$9f4ad080$dde07180$@charter.net> Message-ID: <5566200A.5749.8E48E85@lists.kc9doa.com> Okay, I must be misunderstanding how this works. I thought the down link was FM like the beacon which for me is at 308 Hz on the waterfall. 73 Mike kc9doa On 27 May 2015 at 12:37, Mike wrote: > Mike, I used my day to day DM780 settings. Dial setting was > 28.120 and I > just picked the middle of the waterfall to TX. > > On the RX, you need to keep the cursor moving as the trace > moves quickly. It > does not stay in one place like normal psk > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of > Mike Miller > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:13 PM > To: Robert Bruninga > Cc: amsat bb > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence > > Is the uplink on 28.120 + audio or does the psk31 signal need > to be at > 28.120 i.e. 28.119 USB with 1000 Hz psk31? > > I copied some beacons but didn't see anything from my attempt > to uplink. > > 73 > Mike kc9doa > > > On 27 May 2015 at 10:41, Robert Bruninga wrote: > > > PSAT PSK31 is always in AUTO mode. It will come up whenever > it hears > > PSK31 on the 28.120 uplink. > > > > Bob, WB4APR > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, David G0MRF > > > wrote: > > > > > Congratulations Bob and USNA on another successful > > spacecraft. > > > > > > I listened for the first time this morning and could hear > the > > beacon and > > > transponded PSK31 without any trouble. > > > > > > But I was not expecting the 435.350 carrier to stop every > now > > and again. > > > > > > What determines if the carrier is on or off. - Beacon > > timing.- OK, but is > > > the transmitter also PSK activated in someway? Or is it a > > timer. > > > Very nice for saving power. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > David G0MRF > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Robert Bruninga > > > To: AMSAT BB > > > Sent: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:58 > > > Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) > > > > > > PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with > 6 > > bars using a > > > decent > > > UHF Yagi. > > > > > > But we have not seen any users other than those using the > > 28.120 > > > PSK > > > channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment > with > > it. > > > Everyone > > > within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be > uplinked > > > and heard on the 435.350 MHz downlink. > > > > > > The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with plenty of power > (we are > > > keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for > PSK31). > > > > > > PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS > > > trackerhttp://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The > PSK31 > > transponder is > > > a > > > single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy > in > > the > > > Czech > > > Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing > is > > a > > > simple > > > Parallax Basic Stamp. > > > > > > PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in a 1.5U > package since > > > the flight was available and it gave us more power for our > NON-SPACE > > > solar cells. We are using standard silicon that are only > half as > > > efficient as multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as > much. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not > reflect > > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite > > program! > > Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! > Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From n8hm at arrl.net Wed May 27 19:53:35 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 15:53:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence In-Reply-To: <5566200A.5749.8E48E85@lists.kc9doa.com> References: <5566173B.23850.8C22736@lists.kc9doa.com> <000801d098b4$9f4ad080$dde07180$@charter.net> <5566200A.5749.8E48E85@lists.kc9doa.com> Message-ID: It is, but your uplink signal is going to be Doppler shifted, so it's going to drift through the waterfall (+/- 0.7 kHz through a pass), unless you are controlling your transmit frequency for Doppler. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > Okay, I must be misunderstanding how this works. I thought the > down link was FM like the beacon which for me is at 308 Hz on > the waterfall. > > 73 > Mike kc9doa > > On 27 May 2015 at 12:37, Mike wrote: > >> Mike, I used my day to day DM780 settings. Dial setting was >> 28.120 and I >> just picked the middle of the waterfall to TX. >> >> On the RX, you need to keep the cursor moving as the trace >> moves quickly. It >> does not stay in one place like normal psk >> >> 73, Ted >> K7TRK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of >> Mike Miller >> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:13 PM >> To: Robert Bruninga >> Cc: amsat bb >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence >> >> Is the uplink on 28.120 + audio or does the psk31 signal need >> to be at >> 28.120 i.e. 28.119 USB with 1000 Hz psk31? >> >> I copied some beacons but didn't see anything from my attempt >> to uplink. >> >> 73 >> Mike kc9doa >> >> >> On 27 May 2015 at 10:41, Robert Bruninga wrote: >> >> > PSAT PSK31 is always in AUTO mode. It will come up whenever >> it hears >> > PSK31 on the 28.120 uplink. >> > >> > Bob, WB4APR >> > >> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, David G0MRF >> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Congratulations Bob and USNA on another successful >> > spacecraft. >> > > >> > > I listened for the first time this morning and could hear >> the >> > beacon and >> > > transponded PSK31 without any trouble. >> > > >> > > But I was not expecting the 435.350 carrier to stop every >> now >> > and again. >> > > >> > > What determines if the carrier is on or off. - Beacon >> > timing.- OK, but is >> > > the transmitter also PSK activated in someway? Or is it a >> > timer. >> > > Very nice for saving power. >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > >> > > David G0MRF >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Robert Bruninga >> > > To: AMSAT BB >> > > Sent: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:58 >> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) >> > > >> > > PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with >> 6 >> > bars using a >> > > decent >> > > UHF Yagi. >> > > >> > > But we have not seen any users other than those using the >> > 28.120 >> > > PSK >> > > channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment >> with >> > it. >> > > Everyone >> > > within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be >> uplinked >> > > and heard on the 435.350 MHz downlink. >> > > >> > > The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with plenty of power >> (we are >> > > keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for >> PSK31). >> > > >> > > PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS >> > > trackerhttp://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The >> PSK31 >> > transponder is >> > > a >> > > single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy >> in >> > the >> > > Czech >> > > Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing >> is >> > a >> > > simple >> > > Parallax Basic Stamp. >> > > >> > > PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in a 1.5U >> package since >> > > the flight was available and it gave us more power for our >> NON-SPACE >> > > solar cells. We are using standard silicon that are only >> half as >> > > efficient as multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as >> much. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >> membership. >> > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not >> reflect >> > the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur >> satellite >> > program! >> > Subscription settings: >> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available to all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur >> satellite program! >> Subscription settings: >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From art.ballentine at gmail.com Wed May 27 20:14:26 2015 From: art.ballentine at gmail.com (Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 20:14:26 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Shack Rotator Message-ID: Hi All, I picked up the Getting On The Sats book at Dayton this year and it makes mention of TV rotators. Another local Radio Shack is going under. Is it worth picking up their antenna rotator since it's probably at 60% off? Thanks and 73 Frank B kb1qzh From lists at kc9doa.com Wed May 27 20:15:02 2015 From: lists at kc9doa.com (Mike Miller) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 15:15:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence In-Reply-To: References: , <5566200A.5749.8E48E85@lists.kc9doa.com>, Message-ID: <556625C6.26523.8FAF64D@lists.kc9doa.com> Thanks Paul, The doppler would be enough to prevent the decode, but not enough to prevent me from seeing the trace, if I hit the bandpass. So far I haven't seen anything but the beacon and maybe something that looked like one of the MFSK type modes. Do you know the frequency of the actual center of the uplink bandpass and how wide it is? 73 Mike kc9doa On 27 May 2015 at 15:53, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > It is, but your uplink signal is going to be Doppler shifted, > so it's > going to drift through the waterfall (+/- 0.7 kHz through a > pass), > unless you are controlling your transmit frequency for > Doppler. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Mike Miller > wrote: > > Okay, I must be misunderstanding how this works. I thought > the > > down link was FM like the beacon which for me is at 308 Hz > on > > the waterfall. > > > > 73 > > Mike kc9doa > > > > On 27 May 2015 at 12:37, Mike wrote: > > > >> Mike, I used my day to day DM780 settings. Dial setting > was > >> 28.120 and I > >> just picked the middle of the waterfall to TX. > >> > >> On the RX, you need to keep the cursor moving as the trace > >> moves quickly. It > >> does not stay in one place like normal psk > >> > >> 73, Ted > >> K7TRK > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf > Of > >> Mike Miller > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:13 PM > >> To: Robert Bruninga > >> Cc: amsat bb > >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence > >> > >> Is the uplink on 28.120 + audio or does the psk31 signal > need > >> to be at > >> 28.120 i.e. 28.119 USB with 1000 Hz psk31? > >> > >> I copied some beacons but didn't see anything from my > attempt > >> to uplink. > >> > >> 73 > >> Mike kc9doa > >> > >> > >> On 27 May 2015 at 10:41, Robert Bruninga wrote: > >> > >> > PSAT PSK31 is always in AUTO mode. It will come up > whenever > >> it hears > >> > PSK31 on the 28.120 uplink. > >> > > >> > Bob, WB4APR > >> > > >> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, David G0MRF > >> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Congratulations Bob and USNA on another successful > >> > spacecraft. > >> > > > >> > > I listened for the first time this morning and could > hear > >> the > >> > beacon and > >> > > transponded PSK31 without any trouble. > >> > > > >> > > But I was not expecting the 435.350 carrier to stop > every > >> now > >> > and again. > >> > > > >> > > What determines if the carrier is on or off. - Beacon > >> > timing.- OK, but is > >> > > the transmitter also PSK activated in someway? Or is it > a > >> > timer. > >> > > Very nice for saving power. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks > >> > > > >> > > David G0MRF > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Robert Bruninga > >> > > To: AMSAT BB > >> > > Sent: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:58 > >> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) > >> > > > >> > > PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting > with > >> 6 > >> > bars using a > >> > > decent > >> > > UHF Yagi. > >> > > > >> > > But we have not seen any users other than those using > the > >> > 28.120 > >> > > PSK > >> > > channel on HF normally. We welcome people to > experiment > >> with > >> > it. > >> > > Everyone > >> > > within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will > be > >> uplinked > >> > > and heard on the 435.350 MHz downlink. > >> > > > >> > > The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with plenty of > power > >> (we are > >> > > keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for > >> PSK31). > >> > > > >> > > PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS > >> > > trackerhttp://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. > The > >> PSK31 > >> > transponder is > >> > > a > >> > > single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno > Universtiy > >> in > >> > the > >> > > Czech > >> > > Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and > timing > >> is > >> > a > >> > > simple > >> > > Parallax Basic Stamp. > >> > > > >> > > PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in a 1.5U > >> package since > >> > > the flight was available and it gave us more power for > our > >> NON-SPACE > >> > > solar cells. We are using standard silicon that are > only > >> half as > >> > > efficient as multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as > >> much. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum > >> available > >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > >> membership. > >> > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do > not > >> reflect > >> > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > >> satellite > >> > program! > >> > Subscription settings: > >> > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! > > Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at w0dhb.net Wed May 27 21:40:51 2015 From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 15:40:51 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 baud and IC-9100 In-Reply-To: <005101d09899$b8345500$289cff00$@net> References: <005101d09899$b8345500$289cff00$@net> Message-ID: <000b01d098c5$cd6ac450$68404cf0$@w0dhb.net> David This is true, the unprocessed FM audio require for 9600 baud packet is only on pin 4 of the DATA2 jack, it is not available through the USB soundcard built in to the 9100. :-( Dave W0DHB -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David L Warnberg Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:25 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 baud and IC-9100 Ok, so I'm hearing something I cannot verify. I have be trying to capture 9600 baud packets from BRICSat. Now I discover on the IC-9100 yahoo group someone is saying the IC-9100 does not handle 9600 baud packets over the USB port. I find this hard to believe but can any confirm or deny this claim? I have had issues catching anything with the IC-9100 and 9600 baud packets so was wondering if it was the setup or the radio. All feedback welcome please.. David, KK4QOE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dwarnberg at verizon.net Wed May 27 21:58:02 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 17:58:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 baud and IC-9100 In-Reply-To: <000b01d098c5$cd6ac450$68404cf0$@w0dhb.net> References: <005101d09899$b8345500$289cff00$@net> <000b01d098c5$cd6ac450$68404cf0$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: <007101d098c8$343cb7e0$9cb627a0$@net> Well that throws a wrench in the works.... humm Thanks for the info... did not see anything about this in the manual at all Thanks Again David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: David W0DHB [mailto:dave at w0dhb.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:41 PM To: 'David L Warnberg'; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] 9600 baud and IC-9100 David This is true, the unprocessed FM audio require for 9600 baud packet is only on pin 4 of the DATA2 jack, it is not available through the USB soundcard built in to the 9100. :-( Dave W0DHB -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David L Warnberg Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:25 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 baud and IC-9100 Ok, so I'm hearing something I cannot verify. I have be trying to capture 9600 baud packets from BRICSat. Now I discover on the IC-9100 yahoo group someone is saying the IC-9100 does not handle 9600 baud packets over the USB port. I find this hard to believe but can any confirm or deny this claim? I have had issues catching anything with the IC-9100 and 9600 baud packets so was wondering if it was the setup or the radio. All feedback welcome please.. David, KK4QOE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kc6nhj at charter.net Wed May 27 18:52:22 2015 From: kc6nhj at charter.net (Mike) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:52:22 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000701d098ae$44723050$cd5690f0$@charter.net> Transponder works well even on a 12-13 degree pass here. Beacon decodes on a separate track. TX from 10m SSB shows up separately. You will need to keep moving your cursor (at least in DM780) to track and decode the SSB. Now, all I need is a better pass and someone to answer 73, K7TRK Following is copy of text for that pass: "18:30:16> Main O t e xADO-5 beacon B 1?4 96 23 828 262 +1 pd}eeut P taeRi in Oregon PSE K e tlo escdn Oregon PSE K e e 7TRK CQ CQ CQ de K7Tte_ X7TRK KPie fht u, r AT de K7TRK K7TRK CQ CQ CQ de K7TRK K7TRK K7TRK in Oregon PSE K beacon B ??? 4? 24 832 246 +12 e la W3ADO-5 beacon B ??1 99 26 821 252 +15 _t t W3ADO-5 beacon B ??2 18 23 821 252 "17 t3ADO-5 beacon B ??3 31 23 822 251 +18 W3ADO-5 beacon?ao 34 23 827 2C219 _ W3ADO-5 beacon B ??5 31 23 859 244 +13 ( W3AD too ,i ? tS - U oW CQ CQ Cm CQ aFe" -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:58 AM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Status (day 4) PSAT PSK31 435.350 MHz FM downlink is full quieting with 6 bars using a decent UHF Yagi. But we have not seen any users other than those using the 28.120 PSK channel on HF normally. We welcome people to experiment with it. Everyone within the 28.120 to 28.123 MHz ten meter passband will be uplinked and heard on the 435.350 MHz downlink. The Naval Academy's PSAT seems healthy with plenty of power (we are keeping the APRS digipeater off to allow max power for PSK31). PSAT 's radio and packet system are a simple $250 APRS tracker http://www.byonics.com/mtt4b sent to space. The PSK31 transponder is a single 3.4" square circuit board made by Brno Universtiy in the Czech Republic. The CPU for controlling bulletins and timing is a simple Parallax Basic Stamp. PSAT is actually only about a 1U cubesat but in a 1.5U package since the flight was available and it gave us more power for our NON-SPACE solar cells. We are using standard silicon that are only half as efficient as multi-junction cells, but only cost 1% as much. PSAT has a single 21" VHF and 72" long HF whip. It has two UHF 6" orthogonal monopoles, all of very thin Nitinol wire. More details will eventually follow as the page will be updated over the coming weeks. http://aprs.org/psat.html * PSAT packet telemetry is OK, Digipeater will be off (secondary mission) * PSAT PSK31 transponder is ON with 28.120 MHz uplink! (primary mission) * WOD data fixed. Spin data now available. Right now it is at 3 RPM with +Z pointing 45 deg off Sun * Launch TLE elements (below) are still very good * http://PCSAT.APRS.ORG web page is now capturing PSAT telelmetry that users inject into the APRS-IS * BRICSAT telemetry has been heard but is cycling OFF due to low power * BRICSAT PSK31 downlink (also FM) has also been heard barely (when ON) * USS Langley not heard FREQUENCIES: PSAT: 145.825 - 1200 baud AX.25 telemetry - digi off PSAT PSK31-5: 435.350 FM down, 28.120 SSB PK31 uplink - Brno University Xponder BRICsat: 437.975 - 9600 baud telemetry evry 20s BRICsat PSK31-6 - same as PSAT but PSK TLM on 375 Hz (PSAT on 315 Hz) USS Langley - 437.475 9600 baud telemetry <== CORRECTION ULTRASat3 1 99993U 15140.67013889 .00040043 00000-0 10235-2 0 00009 2 99993 055.0004 339.9238 0251027 182.3314 074.3075 15.12517086000014 Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kshaddrick at jetup.net Thu May 28 00:07:18 2015 From: kshaddrick at jetup.net (Kelley) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:07:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail Data? Message-ID: <55665C36.4040204@jetup.net> I left the rig and packet software running today while I was at work. I was listening to the LightSail beacon on 437.435 MHz. I had one entry on the screen when I got home: 1: Fm V-3 to 70-9 Via uH, , , -6 [07:25:21] No idea what it means, not sure if it was LightSail or not. Posted as an FYI. Curious to know what it might be. -- Kelley - W?RK From tjschuessler at verizon.net Thu May 28 04:19:13 2015 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:19:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence Message-ID: <005d01d098fd$742d0640$5c8712c0$@net> The original email from David, reprinted below noted the "Stopping of the 435 downlink carrier and Bob WB4APR came back and said that the transponder is in an "Auto" mode which waits for a PSK signal and then turns on. My experience the other morning was that this was true, but as David says below, he was surprised by it turning off periodically. My surprise was that I was able to repeatedly turn it on when I started transmitting on 28.120 +1Khz, but before my CQ ended, the carier would quit. I repeatedly brought it up and also saw other not so copyable psk carriers on the waterfall but the transponder seemed not to stay on long enough to keep a full QSO going. I know for a fact because I duplicated at least three times turning on the FM carrier about 2-3 seconds after I started to uplink. I personally have yet in my several feeble efforts, been able to make a full QSO although I have been emailed by several to say that they did indeed hear me. This morning, 5-27 1207Z pass I was bad and had my RX radio to the wrong frequency but will give another shot at the 114xZ pass on 5-28 to see if I can make progress on making a Q. Tom Schuessler - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 09:54:23 -0400 From: David G0MRF To: bruninga at usna.edu, amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT- transmission sequence Message-ID: <14d95a711a9-c2e-8cd at webprd-m108.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Congratulations Bob and USNA on another successful spacecraft. I listened for the first time this morning and could hear the beacon and transponded PSK31 without any trouble. But I was not expecting the 435.350 carrier to stop every now and again. What determines if the carrier is on or off. - Beacon timing.- OK, but is the transmitter also PSK activated in someway? Or is it a timer. Very nice for saving power. Thanks David G0MRF From skristof at etczone.com Thu May 28 11:01:29 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 07:01:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digi on? Message-ID: <69B9AF482D4C433CA36D2AD97BE14DB7@StevePC> Anybody hear anything from the ISS digipeater this morning (between 1019 and 1030 UTC)? This should have been a good pass at my QTH (EM79ji) and I heard nothing. Is the digipeater off or am I "off"? Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof at etczone.com From gaston.bertels at skynet.be Thu May 28 11:12:37 2015 From: gaston.bertels at skynet.be (Gaston Bertels) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 13:12:37 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digi on? In-Reply-To: <69B9AF482D4C433CA36D2AD97BE14DB7@StevePC> References: <69B9AF482D4C433CA36D2AD97BE14DB7@StevePC> Message-ID: <8005cc$3qn2f8@relay.skynet.be> Hi, ARISS equipment in Columbus is deactivated till June 1. Reason is maintenance on other equipment needing temporary removal. 73, Gaston - ON4WF At 13:01 28-05-15, Steve Kristoff wrote: >Anybody hear anything from the ISS digipeater this morning (between >1019 and 1030 UTC)? This should have been a good pass at my QTH >(EM79ji) and I heard nothing. >Is the digipeater off or am I "off"? > >Steve Kristoff AI9IN >skristof at etczone.com > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Thu May 28 11:37:28 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 07:37:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digi on? In-Reply-To: <8005cc$3qn2f8@relay.skynet.be> References: <69B9AF482D4C433CA36D2AD97BE14DB7@StevePC> <8005cc$3qn2f8@relay.skynet.be> Message-ID: <57B4439FC96C45E4A72644A32C9444D2@StevePC> Thank you for the information. Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaston Bertels" To: "Steve Kristoff" ; Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: ISS digi on? > Hi, > > ARISS equipment in Columbus is deactivated till June 1. > > Reason is maintenance on other equipment needing temporary removal. > > 73, Gaston - ON4WF > > > > > > > > At 13:01 28-05-15, Steve Kristoff wrote: >>Anybody hear anything from the ISS digipeater this morning (between 1019 >>and 1030 UTC)? This should have been a good pass at my QTH (EM79ji) and I >>heard nothing. >>Is the digipeater off or am I "off"? >> >>Steve Kristoff AI9IN >>skristof at etczone.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Thu May 28 12:41:35 2015 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes Costa) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 08:41:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail Data? In-Reply-To: <55665C36.4040204@jetup.net> References: <55665C36.4040204@jetup.net> Message-ID: <55670CFF.3080009@frcuba.co.cu> The packet modems relay on a CRC checksum of the packets to validate the data received as a good packet. In some situations, like yours when a modem is listening a long time, the noise can "forge" a "good" packet. This is a statistically proved fact, the CRC is not as strong as we wish for this task. I'm not saying that this is a noise forged packet, but it's a possibility. 73 El 27/05/15 a las 20:07, Kelley escibi?: > > I left the rig and packet software running today while I was at work. I > was listening to the LightSail beacon on 437.435 MHz. I had one entry on > the screen when I got home: > > 1: Fm V-3 to 70-9 Via uH, , , -6 [07:25:21] > > No idea what it means, not sure if it was LightSail or not. Posted as an > FYI. Curious to know what it might be. > From at746david at gmail.com Thu May 28 13:14:25 2015 From: at746david at gmail.com (David) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 15:14:25 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT VHF RX frames Message-ID: <556714B1.2040007@gmail.com> Hi all: I have been able to receive some AX25 frames in the 145.825 Khz downlink frequency. Time showed in the frame is UTC+2 QTH is IN80CP First two corresponding to orbit #117: 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [10:46:11R] T#808,856,074,941,644,843,00011100 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [10:47:12R] T#809,855,074,938,623,843,00011100 the next to the orbit #119: 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:08:30R] :BLN2USA :See APRS.FI & 144.39 users 1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS [14:11:14R] T#010,822,357,830,736,832,00011100 Antenna is 9 elements yagi without elevation Software is SoundModem by UZ7HO Best 73s David EA4SG From kshaddrick at jetup.net Thu May 28 17:57:07 2015 From: kshaddrick at jetup.net (Kelley) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 12:57:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail Data? In-Reply-To: <55670CFF.3080009@frcuba.co.cu> References: <55665C36.4040204@jetup.net> <55670CFF.3080009@frcuba.co.cu> Message-ID: <556756F3.4040504@jetup.net> Yup, I think I'll chalk it up to noise. Thanks all. Kelley - W?RK On 5/28/2015 7:41 AM, Pavel Milanes Costa wrote: > The packet modems relay on a CRC checksum of the packets to validate > the data received as a good packet. > > In some situations, like yours when a modem is listening a long time, > the noise can "forge" a "good" packet. This is a statistically proved > fact, the CRC is not as strong as we wish for this task. > > I'm not saying that this is a noise forged packet, but it's a > possibility. > > 73 > > El 27/05/15 a las 20:07, Kelley escibi?: >> >> I left the rig and packet software running today while I was at work. I >> was listening to the LightSail beacon on 437.435 MHz. I had one entry on >> the screen when I got home: >> >> 1: Fm V-3 to 70-9 Via uH, , , -6 [07:25:21] >> >> No idea what it means, not sure if it was LightSail or not. Posted as an >> FYI. Curious to know what it might be. >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From redski at bellsouth.net Thu May 28 18:58:06 2015 From: redski at bellsouth.net (Red Willoughby) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 13:58:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Message-ID: <26D02501-9DC7-4F6F-AFD6-59CA409BD4FF@bellsouth.net> A couple of questions: How much power (to a dipole) is recommended for uplinking on 28.120 PSK31? Also, what is it's altitude? And, how long is its expected lifespan? Thanks in advance. Red KC4LE From n8hm at arrl.net Thu May 28 19:04:07 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 15:04:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT In-Reply-To: <26D02501-9DC7-4F6F-AFD6-59CA409BD4FF@bellsouth.net> References: <26D02501-9DC7-4F6F-AFD6-59CA409BD4FF@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: WB4APR recommends no more than 25 watts. The prelaunch orbit estimate I saw was a 700 km x 350 km orbit with an expected orbital lifespan of 3 years. I'm not sure how close that is to the final orbit. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Red Willoughby wrote: > A couple of questions: > > How much power (to a dipole) is recommended for uplinking on 28.120 PSK31? > > Also, what is it's altitude? > > And, how long is its expected lifespan? > > Thanks in advance. > > Red > KC4LE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From redski at bellsouth.net Thu May 28 19:08:22 2015 From: redski at bellsouth.net (Red Willoughby) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:08:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT Message-ID: Thanks Paul - I am hoping to get home in time to give it a try on the next pass. From dave at w0dhb.net Thu May 28 20:57:28 2015 From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:57:28 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Successful QSO on PSAT1 Message-ID: <013401d09988$e84a74a0$b8df5de0$@w0dhb.net> A successful QSO between AA5PK DM91 and W0DHB DN70 this last PSAT-1 pass Also heard was WC7V DN45 . We're starting to get the hang of it From wa4sca at gmail.com Thu May 28 21:05:00 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:05:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Successful QSO on PSAT1 In-Reply-To: <013401d09988$e84a74a0$b8df5de0$@w0dhb.net> References: <013401d09988$e84a74a0$b8df5de0$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: <000201d09989$f65ca3a0$e315eae0$@GMAIL.COM> Dave, Great news. Now all we need are some fresh Keps! 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <013401d09988$e84a74a0$b8df5de0$@w0dhb.net> <000201d09989$f65ca3a0$e315eae0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: Take your pick from these. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o48dswYcTHb-op9ygaKhrizrelMGV9pYcUm0SFmxfS8/mobilebasic?pli=1 Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Thu May 28 21:12:27 2015 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:12:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Successful QSO on PSAT1 In-Reply-To: <000201d09989$f65ca3a0$e315eae0$@GMAIL.COM> References: <013401d09988$e84a74a0$b8df5de0$@w0dhb.net> <000201d09989$f65ca3a0$e315eae0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: <01BCB3BBBDBE45A69DE3B00B26C64A7D@AA5PKPC> The current Keps are serving us well for now. Glenn AA5PK -----Original Message----- From: Alan Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 4:05 PM To: 'David W0DHB' ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Successful QSO on PSAT1 Dave, Great news. Now all we need are some fresh Keps! 73s, Alan WA4SCA From wa4sca at gmail.com Thu May 28 21:36:36 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan Biddle) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:36:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Successful QSO on PSAT1 In-Reply-To: References: <013401d09988$e84a74a0$b8df5de0$@w0dhb.net> <000201d09989$f65ca3a0$e315eae0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: <55678A64.2090307@GMAIL.COM> Dave, I am reminded of the old joke about the electronics store that had a sale on mixed, unmarked 1% precision resistors. 73s, Alan WA4SCA From dave at druidnetworks.com Thu May 28 22:14:47 2015 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (Dave Swanson) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 17:14:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] KG5CCI/P - Road Trip MO/IA/NE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55679357.80701@druidnetworks.com> Good afternoon all, I will be /P the next few days traveling thru Missouri, Iowa, and possibly Nebraska, thru EM36/37/38/29 and EN30/20/21/11, and back again. This is not a primary roving trip, but I will be bringing the portable kit along and will try to operate from at least a few of these spots as I drive. I have activated most of these places in the past, but if there's a state or grid you've missed, watch my Twitter feed (@KG5CCI) or shoot me an email with what you're needing, and I'll try and make an arrangement to be on from somewhere for you. 73! Dave, KG5CCI From bruninga at usna.edu Thu May 28 22:40:48 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 17:40:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT - power requirements Message-ID: > > > WB4APR recommends no more than 25 watts. > That was the design goal, but until we get more experience, we wont know for sure. But since everyone can see their own downlink just like everyone else can see it, it should be no problem adjusting for minimum uplink power. But with any shared transponder it can also become an arms race. As one person increases power it drives the AGC down and everyone else goes down, so they also increase power and this just keeps going until the AGC is maximally tightened and everyone is transmitting max power and everyone is weak. What we really need (BEFORE this happens) is for everyone to give us feedback as to the minimum power they needed to maintain a minimum signal in the passband and of course, what kind of antenna they are using under those conditions. And this is best early on when there are only 1 or 2 usewrs at a time.. If you don't yet have PSK31, but want to get some data, team up with an HF friend in your area and ask him to just transmit for the next 10 minutes and you can then receie his downlink while commenting on his signal strength throughout the pass. >The prelaunch orbit estimate I saw was a 700 km x 350 km orbit with an expected orbital lifespan of 3 years. I'm not sure how close that is to the final orbit. We don't know yet either, but perigee is nearer the morning passes and apogee is nearer the later passes (THis is for the Northern Hemisphere.). Both apogee and perigee being near the equator. Bob, WB4aPR On family travel and with very spotty Email till next week. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Red Willoughby wrote: > A couple of questions: > > How much power (to a dipole) is recommended for uplinking on 28.120 PSK31? > > Also, what is it's altitude? > > And, how long is its expected lifespan? > > Thanks in advance. > > Red > KC4LE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl Fri May 29 09:29:02 2015 From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 11:29:02 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT - power requirements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150529092902.GA17269@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Quoting Robert Bruninga who wrote on Thu 2015-05-28 at 17:40: > If you don't yet have PSK31, but want to get some data, team up with an HF > friend in your area and ask him to just transmit for the next 10 minutes > and you can then receie his downlink while commenting on his signal > strength throughout the pass. At this moment in the year HF propagation on 10 meters is almost non-existant in Europe (from time to time http://dxheat.com/dxc/ suggests there is good propagation in the americas). This means the PSK31 uplink band for PSAT is usually quiet. A good time for testing this. I can do uplink on HF or downlink on 70cm, but not both during the same pass. My locator JO22NC and my time is limited due to work/family life ;). HF uplink is easier since that's all set up in the shack. Koos PD4KH -- Camp Wireless, the site about wireless Internet | Koos van den Hout access at campsites http://www.camp-wireless.org/ | http://idefix.net/ PGP keyid DSS/1024 0xF0D7C263 | IPv6 enabled! From k7trkradio at charter.net Thu May 28 21:25:55 2015 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:25:55 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Successful QSO on PSAT1 In-Reply-To: <013401d09988$e84a74a0$b8df5de0$@w0dhb.net> References: <013401d09988$e84a74a0$b8df5de0$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: <000c01d0998c$e23aa630$a6aff290$@charter.net> David, what did you use for the exchange/? Tnx, Ted -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:57 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Successful QSO on PSAT1 A successful QSO between AA5PK DM91 and W0DHB DN70 this last PSAT-1 pass Also heard was WC7V DN45 . We're starting to get the hang of it _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri May 29 11:08:14 2015 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:08:14 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Mode Message-ID: <2D8FA8F62B794A5EB0C1C90523A5F7B0@allgood.local> Hi All, Just confirm that FUNcube-1 was commanded into amateur mode at approx 10:54UTC this morning as planned for the weekend. It is likely that the normal switch back to autonomous operation will not take place until one of the Monday (June 1st) morning passes. 73 Graham G3VZV From dwarnberg at verizon.net Fri May 29 11:49:49 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 07:49:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat Message-ID: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. Anyone know why? Thanks David, KK4QOE From n8hm at arrl.net Fri May 29 11:52:45 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 07:52:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> Message-ID: Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app. 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg wrote: > I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. > Anyone know why? > > > > Thanks > > > > David, KK4QOE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Fri May 29 11:54:20 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 07:54:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> Message-ID: I was listening for BRICSat UHF TLM this morning and got nothing. Can't go by my rig really, but maybe BRICSat isn't working? Steve AI9IN Oldenburg IN EM79ji ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L Warnberg" To: Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:49 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat > I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. > Anyone know why? > > > > Thanks > > > > David, KK4QOE > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From skristof at etczone.com Fri May 29 12:25:59 2015 From: skristof at etczone.com (Steve Kristoff) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:25:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> Message-ID: <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart are they? Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" To: "David L Warnberg" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat > Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some > reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg > wrote: >> I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. >> Anyone know why? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> David, KK4QOE >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From dwarnberg at verizon.net Fri May 29 12:42:56 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:42:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> Message-ID: <002a01d09a0c$fd212fc0$f7638f40$@net> They were always fairly close but I don't think they were the same.. David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Steve Kristoff Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:26 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart are they? Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" To: "David L Warnberg" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat > Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some > reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg > wrote: >> I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. >> Anyone know why? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> David, KK4QOE >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dwarnberg at verizon.net Fri May 29 12:46:22 2015 From: dwarnberg at verizon.net (David L Warnberg) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:46:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> Message-ID: <002b01d09a0d$7a1b5b90$6e5212b0$@net> Speaking of... am I going blind or is that one also missing from the Satellite Pass Predictions page?? David, KK4QOE -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Steve Kristoff Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:26 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart are they? Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" To: "David L Warnberg" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat > Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some > reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg > wrote: >> I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. >> Anyone know why? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> David, KK4QOE >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Fri May 29 12:49:36 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:49:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: <002b01d09a0d$7a1b5b90$6e5212b0$@net> References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> <002b01d09a0d$7a1b5b90$6e5212b0$@net> Message-ID: Yes. Both of them were removed from today's set of AMSAT keps for some reason. The AMSAT keps are what populate the Online Pass Predictions page. 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, David L Warnberg wrote: > Speaking of... am I going blind or is that one also missing from the > Satellite Pass Predictions page?? > > David, KK4QOE > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Steve > Kristoff > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:26 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat > > Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart > are they? > > Steve AI9IN > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Stoetzer" > To: "David L Warnberg" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat > > >> Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some >> reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg >> wrote: >>> I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. >>> Anyone know why? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> David, KK4QOE >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff > skristof at etczone.com > > "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside > yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the > financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New > Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, > Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Fri May 29 13:02:22 2015 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:02:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> <002b01d09a0d$7a1b5b90$6e5212b0$@net> Message-ID: <001c01d09a0f$b3a66d80$1af34880$@net> > Speaking of... am I going blind or is that one also missing > from the Satellite Pass Predictions page?? See below for the element set sent via AMSAT's KEPS list. Perhaps we're seeing a re-organization of the way ULTRASat elements are released at this intermediate stage when it is too early to tell exactly which object is which. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services Below are KEP TLE sets associated with the 5/20/2015 Altas V launch from Cape Canaveral of a primary payload and 10 cubesats. Since these objects remain close together, the KEP sets have not been associated with any specific object. We will have to wait until enough separation has occurred to identify each individual object. This data courtesy of http://cubesat.org Thursday, May 28 16:30 UTC ULTRASat1 1 90720U 15148.55800340 +.00015915 +00000-0 +41830-3 0 00151 2 90720 054.9957 305.7261 0249626 201.7290 191.9953 15.12934264001200 ULTRASat2 1 90721U 15148.55880183 +.00021762 +00000-0 +56569-3 0 00135 2 90721 054.9970 305.7165 0249435 201.7510 197.7276 15.13029622001208 ULTRASat3 1 90722U 15148.55988628 +.00024288 +00000-0 +63095-3 0 00148 2 90722 054.9917 305.7171 0249333 201.7254 202.1603 15.12996790001202 ULTRASat4 1 90723U 15148.56049123 +.00010056 +00000-0 +27012-3 0 00123 2 90723 054.9948 305.7217 0249980 201.6664 202.3594 15.12772433001061 ULTRASat5 1 90724U 15148.49354887 +.00009887 +00000-0 +26946-3 0 00127 2 90724 055.0103 306.0668 0250262 201.0171 186.6917 15.12357949001191 ULTRASat6 1 90725U 15148.43160443 +.00017459 +00000-0 +46574-3 0 00140 2 90725 055.0086 306.3265 0249761 200.8643 210.1314 15.12441351001185 ULTRASat7 1 90726U 15148.42781326 +.00013069 +00000-0 +35246-3 0 00135 2 90726 055.0081 306.3680 0249815 200.8687 189.0823 15.12394338001181 ULTRASat8 1 90727U 15148.43204319 +.00016865 +00000-0 +45053-3 0 00133 2 90727 055.0123 306.3380 0249797 200.7527 212.2775 15.12424359001189 ULTRASat9 1 90728U 15148.49387326 +.00017050 +00000-0 +45481-3 0 00110 2 90728 055.0131 306.0678 0249967 200.9166 188.8458 15.12425085001033 ULTRASat10 1 90729U 15148.55978801 +.00010570 +00000-0 +28186-3 0 00148 2 90729 055.0058 305.7490 0250157 201.7152 201.2267 15.12876352001201 _______________________________________________ Via the Keps mailing list courtesy of AMSAT-NA http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/keps From hamsat at xs4all.nl Fri May 29 13:09:18 2015 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 15:09:18 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT and BRICSat identified Message-ID: <556864FE.4020009@xs4all.nl> All, Using detailed doppler shift measurements, I find that PSAT is object 90720, ULTRASat 1, and BRICSat is object 90729, ULTRASat 10. Up-to-date TLE sets for these satellites can be found here: http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~ops/ultrasat/ultrasat_jspoc.txt http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~ops/keps/kepler.txt https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o48dswYcTHb-op9ygaKhrizrelMGV9pYcUm0SFmxfS8/pub This means that PSAT is actually object 40652, 2015-025B, and BRICSat is actually object 40661, 2015-025L, in the JSpOC catalog. But Space-Track does not publish TLE sets for these objects. Meanwhile, The Planetary Society suggests that the TLE set for object 90721, ULTRASat 2, gives the best match for LightSail. If that is correct, then LightSail is actually object 40653, 2015-025C, in the JSpOC catalog. 73, Nico PA0DLO From FraserBonnett at verizon.net Fri May 29 13:25:58 2015 From: FraserBonnett at verizon.net (Fraser Bonnett) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 09:25:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 and PSAT Message-ID: <001401d09a13$003b8060$00b28120$@verizon.net> I am a somewhat of newbie to Satellites, but right now I feel like a complete idiot. How can I get PSAT into SatPC32 so I can track it? Thanks, Fraser, W3UTD --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri May 29 13:27:49 2015 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:27:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> <002b01d09a0d$7a1b5b90$6e5212b0$@net> Message-ID: <000001d09a13$42a12ea0$c7e38be0$@GMAIL.COM> Paul, My understanding is that they were added "by hand" from the pre-launch values, rather than through the normal process. When the new set was generated, they probably got broomed, so standy by. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: <> Speaking of... am I going blind or is that one also missing from the <> Satellite Pass Predictions page?? <> <> David, KK4QOE <> <> -----Original Message----- <> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Steve <> Kristoff <> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:26 AM <> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat <> <> Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart <> are they? <> <> Steve AI9IN <> <> <> ----- Original Message ----- <> From: "Paul Stoetzer" <> To: "David L Warnberg" <> Cc: <> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM <> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat <> <> <>> Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some <>> reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app. <>> <>> 73, <>> <>> Paul, N8HM <>> <>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg <>> wrote: <>>> I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. <>>> Anyone know why? <>>> <>>> <>>> <>>> Thanks <>>> <>>> <>>> <>>> David, KK4QOE <>>> <>>> _______________________________________________ <>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>>> Opinions expressed <>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>>> AMSAT-NA. <>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>>> program! <>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> _______________________________________________ <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <> <>> expressed <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>> AMSAT-NA. <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> Steve Kristoff <> skristof at etczone.com <> <> "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside <> yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the <> financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New <> Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, <> Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <> expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <> AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <_______________________________________________ References: <001401d09a13$003b8060$00b28120$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <556869a2.481e6b0a.2976.ffffa90b@mx.google.com> > How can I get PSAT into SatPC32 so I can track it? This may help ... http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/23/adding-new-satellites-to-satpc32/ -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org AMSAT VP User Services From tjschuessler at verizon.net Fri May 29 14:14:19 2015 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom schuessler) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 09:14:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT. BRICSAT KEPS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80D405E7-84FA-45F7-BAC6-B37791B27190@verizon.net> > A separate email was sent out to the KEPS distribution list listing the 10 ULTRASat objects. W 5QGD did not have either of the amateur payloads on last week at all. hey were added by somebody else over the weekend to the past predictions. I think ULTRASat3 is PSAT ----------------------------- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:49:36 -0400 From: Paul Stoetzer To: David L Warnberg Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes. Both of them were removed from today's set of AMSAT keps for some reason. The AMSAT keps are what populate the Online Pass Predictions page. 73, Paul, N8HM From amsat at n0jy.org Fri May 29 17:18:39 2015 From: amsat at n0jy.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:18:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> Message-ID: <55689F6F.7010807@n0jy.org> I haven't heard a peep, either. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 5/29/2015 06:54, Steve Kristoff wrote: > I was listening for BRICSat UHF TLM this morning and got nothing. > Can't go by my rig really, but maybe BRICSat isn't working? > > Steve AI9IN > Oldenburg IN > EM79ji > From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Fri May 29 18:34:19 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 14:34:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT reports Message-ID: <5568B12B.1050801@denstarfarm.us> I "seemed" to have made things work this pass. I copied the beacon form Annapolis I was also sending on 28.120 but didn't see myself ... or so it seems anyway. "W3ADO-5 beacon B ??1 34 23 838 262 +1? aiH " circa 1828Z 29-may 435.34 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From w7lrd at comcast.net Fri May 29 20:47:00 2015 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 20:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] G-5400 az meter 4 sale Message-ID: <2106840052.19073770.1432932420466.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I have a "extra" Yaesu G-5400 az meter south center scale for sale $15 plus shipping. Meter face is cardboard by G4DMF. 73 Bob W7LRD From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Sat May 30 01:54:59 2015 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 20:54:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/P EM72nu skeds Message-ID: 30 May 2015 - All times UTC AO-73 02:45 AO-73 16:14 SO-50 16:46 FO-29 20:05 FO-29 21:51 73 Clayton W5PFG From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Sat May 30 10:07:51 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 06:07:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] more PSAT W3ADO beacon rpts Message-ID: <55698BF7.90205@denstarfarm.us> This morning, 30-may 0959Z W3ADO-5 beacon B ?27 31 23 868 266 +2 ie e W3ADO-5 beac??{28 25 23 8?2 249 +6 nt F W3ADO-5 bed??29 15 23 8?3 252 +7 a on r64 +7 MQ W3ADO-5 bed??31 6 29 798 249 +1? , +t? 253 +8 n ae t saw one other weak PSK trace I sent CQ a few times also 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl Sat May 30 12:03:23 2015 From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 14:03:23 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] more PSAT W3ADO beacon rpts In-Reply-To: <55698BF7.90205@denstarfarm.us> References: <55698BF7.90205@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <20150530120322.GA27800@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Quoting Bob KD7YZ who wrote on Sat 2015-05-30 at 06:07: > This morning, 30-may 0959Z What is your location? > W3ADO-5 beacon B ?27 31 23 868 266 +2 ie e > W3ADO-5 beac??{28 25 23 8?2 249 +6 nt F > W3ADO-5 bed??29 15 23 8?3 252 +7 a on r64 +7 MQ > W3ADO-5 bed??31 6 29 798 249 +1? , +t? 253 +8 n ae t > > saw one other weak PSK trace > > I sent CQ a few times also I sent out signals for PE0SAT to recieve and decode on that same pass. I transmitted from JO22NC at rising power levels (5, 10, 15 and 25 watts). He has given me his IQ file to try and decode the PSK31 from, but I'm currently seeing PSK31 like signals in FM, but not decoding. The fun part is the IQ recording is in the .wav format of SDRsharp and I want to decode in gqrx + fldigi in Linux. Hints on the correct conversion are welcome! Koos -- The Virtual Bookcase, the site about books, book | Koos van den Hout news and reviews http://www.virtualbookcase.com/ | http://idefix.net/ PGP keyid DSS/1024 0xF0D7C263 | IPv6 enabled! From daniel at destevez.net Sat May 30 12:10:26 2015 From: daniel at destevez.net (=?UTF-8?B?RGFuaWVsIEVzdMOpdmV6?=) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 14:10:26 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 telemetry Message-ID: <5569A8B2.8080003@destevez.net> Hi everybody! More PSAT telemetry reports. Time 11:40 UTC, 30/5/2015, locator IN80do. Handheld arrow antenna and Funcube Pro + dongle. PSAT's signal was sometimes quite strong S5, despite the very bad urban receiving location with some buildings on the way of this low elevation pass. I also saw OE1KYA ending a QSO and then calling CQ, probably on terrestrial PSK31. I also saw some very short "blips" quickly raising in frequency (before FM demod). I have the SDR recording if anyone is interested. 73 de EA4GPZ. ------- 3A5`eacon B u 31 23 875 2jau?r t W3ADO-?beacon B 046 15 238G3 5?1utu9 +12ttQ eo eeo-Ox\ OiC ? *on B 04 e e3 O21 251 +11 ? W3ADO-5 beacon B 0h 0 18 30 826 249 +1I eo  o WenADO-5 neacon B 051 6?2?w 252 +15 e E HIA? Q? asie. e ykA ?-ta ?acon eae h h h W3ADO-C beacon B 057 96 23 8ei2 250 +15 s o nW3ADO-5 beacon B 05ie 68 28 819 251 +1D eem t W3ADO-5 ?acon B 059booo0e1 81" 252 +18 n e # ooe 60 99 42 818 251 +19 iV W3ADO-5 beadon B 061 87 29 816 51 +19 o o i W3,DO-5 beacon B 062 9F 32 815 251 +20 eIa W3ADO-5 beacon? 063 71 23 815 25C +?2eml? W3ADO- l beacon B 000 31 37 6 246 +16 nsVo W3ADO-5 beacon B 00G 75 35 813 252 +19 8s W3ADO-5 ceacon ?002 34 41 81- 251 +20 snr WIADO-5 beacon B 0 ik 23 813 250 +n)U - u bO-5 beacon B 00o6 33 814 2 l1 +21 ? W3A:O-5 beacon B 005 99 [1 811 251 +22 3o e W3ADO-5 beacon 006 99 4! 810 25?+22 v eEa?ol W3ADO-5 beacon B 0ae- ?7 3( 830 24V l tieu From michel-f6glj at orange.fr Sat May 30 13:35:06 2015 From: michel-f6glj at orange.fr (Michel F6GLJ) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 15:35:06 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT reports from IN94 Message-ID: <020701d09add$71a58ff0$54f0afd0$@fr> On 30/05/2015 13:20 /13:28 UT beacon B 025 09 23 867 237 +5 W3ADO-5 beacon B 026 46 27 811 248 +10 W3ADO-5 beacon B 027 34 23 862 238 +7 W3ADO-5 beacon B 030 90 34 810 248 +16 73 qro de Michel F6GLJ From ka8qcu at pasty.net Sat May 30 15:35:49 2015 From: ka8qcu at pasty.net (Doug Kuitula) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 11:35:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Shack Rotator References: Message-ID: <000401d09aee$507ce240$cf354b0c@net> Frank, I've been using a Radio Shack rotator for a number of years for satellites. It's not the best, but I've made many contacts with it. .......73 de Doug KA8QCU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr" To: "AMSAT-BB" Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 16:14 Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Shack Rotator > Hi All, > I picked up the Getting On The Sats book at Dayton this year and it makes > mention of TV rotators. Another local Radio Shack is going under. Is it > worth picking up their antenna rotator since it's probably at 60% off? > > Thanks and 73 > Frank B > kb1qzh > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Sat May 30 15:42:59 2015 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 11:42:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat In-Reply-To: <000001d09a13$42a12ea0$c7e38be0$@GMAIL.COM> References: <002501d09a05$9198d250$b4ca76f0$@net> <049DFC71F1EF4A4FA901BE845B96D96E@StevePC> <002b01d09a0d$7a1b5b90$6e5212b0$@net> <000001d09a13$42a12ea0$c7e38be0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: <5569DA83.5060802@alum.wpi.edu> On 5/29/2015 9:27 AM, Alan wrote: > Paul, > > My understanding is that they were added "by hand" from the pre-launch values, rather than through the > normal process. When the new set was generated, they probably got broomed, so standy by. Alan is correct. An automated process on the web server is subscribed to the KEPS mailing list, and updates nasabare.txt as well as the predictions page based on the 2l bulletin. Since there were no elements for BRICSAT, PSAT and LIGHTSAIL in this week's bulletin, they were removed from the list through the automated process, and I evidently botched my manual web site fix up Thursday night. This morning I added the new NORAD/AFSPC elements. Steve AI9IN wrote: > > <> > <> Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart > <> are they? > <> > <> Steve AI9IN > Until this morning they were. Now that we have data from NORAD, they are tracked independently. The Planetary Society provided separate elements for Lightsail, so those elements were in use until Thursday. >From here on out, we expect that NORAD elements will be the best available, and they will be included in next week's KEPS list. Looks like CAMSAT will give us another opportunity to iron out kinks in our KEPS/web prediction systems in July before Fox-1A launches. See http://www.amsat.org/?p=4181 -Joe KM1P From dave at w0dhb.net Sat May 30 18:49:57 2015 From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 12:49:57 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 downlink Message-ID: <001f01d09b09$6cf10490$46d30db0$@w0dhb.net> I've been observing that with the current keps the Downlink frequency of the PSK31 beacon is about 2Khz low. A good US pass over the US at about 1936. What I have been doing is decoding the entire 3 KHz with DM780's Supersweeper or Fldigi and fixing TX at about 600Hz. That way I catch everybody and there is no need to match frequencies. I've been trying to TX below 1KHz to minimize interfering with folks operating normal 10m PSK. Dave W0DHB From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Sat May 30 19:23:31 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 15:23:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] more PSAT W3ADO beacon rpts In-Reply-To: <20150530120322.GA27800@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> References: <55698BF7.90205@denstarfarm.us> <20150530120322.GA27800@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <556A0E33.6080709@denstarfarm.us> On 30-May-15 0803, Koos van den Hout wrote: > Quoting Bob KD7YZ who wrote on Sat 2015-05-30 at 06:07: > >> This morning, 30-may 0959Z > > What is your location? EM88LL Northeast Kentucky 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat May 30 20:26:53 2015 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 20:26:53 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Still Waiting To Hear From Lightsail Message-ID: http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150529-lightsail-waiting-hardest-part.html 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sat May 30 21:26:01 2015 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 21:26:01 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] upcoming DM02 grid expedition, including satellites Message-ID: Hi! I received this e-mail on the mail reflector for my local DX club, announcing an expedition to the waters near San Clemente Island off southern California in grid DM02. I just tweeted the text of the e-mail, but will also post it here for those not on Twitter: ********** Along with Jim, K6ZH and Phil, N0KE, I am going on a boat trip to activate the FFMA #1 most needed grid - DM02. We are leaving from San Diego on Wednesday, June 10 aboard a 49' sailboat and will be on the air sometime late Wednesday, through sometime on Sunday, June 14, including most of the VHF contest. Unfortunately, we have to leave before the end of the contest because the Navy has scheduled exercises in the area on Monday. We will be active on 6 M, 2 M, probably 432, 1296 and satellites. Phil is responsible for everything other than 6 M. The easiest way to work us from AZ is via meteor scatter and we will be on that mode every morning and perhaps the evenings, unless there is Es. We understand there is no cell service (even though we will be close to San Clemente Island), so we will be in contact with pilot stations on 2 M FM in order to announce ourselves on Ping Jockey. If you don't use meteor scatter, it's not too late to learn! Otherwise you will have to listen for a very short (distance) Es opening or backscatter or some other nearly impossible propagation mode. We will be running about 500 W and a 3 el yagi (due to constraints from having to mount the antenna on a sailboat). We will use the call K6ZH. Watch for packet spots announcing our transmit frequency. Good luck. 73, Bud N7CW ********** I have e-mailed N7CW, asking for details on which satellites they are looking to work during this grid expedition. Since K1N was able to have success working FO-29 recently, maybe these guys can follow K1N's lead and make a bunch of satellite operators (along with the 6m ops and those on the other bands) very happy. Good luck, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl Sat May 30 21:31:08 2015 From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 23:31:08 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT - power requirements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150530213108.GA5863@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Quoting Robert Bruninga who wrote on Thu 2015-05-28 at 17:40: > What we really need (BEFORE this happens) is for everyone to give us > feedback as to the minimum power they needed to maintain a minimum signal > in the passband and of course, what kind of antenna they are using under > those conditions. And this is best early on when there are only 1 or 2 > usewrs at a time.. > > If you don't yet have PSK31, but want to get some data, team up with an HF > friend in your area and ask him to just transmit for the next 10 minutes > and you can then receie his downlink while commenting on his signal > strength throughout the pass. I decided to play the role of the HF friend and Jan van Gils PE0SAT was kind enough to record the downlink for me in a pass that started at 09:59 UTC this morning for me in JO22NC. The short conclusions: - I needed 20 watts on HF to get through the satellite (when the telemetry signal was active) and produce a readable signal. - The automatic switch in the transponder does not recognize PSK31 from earth very well. Every time it switched off when the beacon packets stopped, even with reasonable strong PSK31 from earth. The complete story of how this was done and the telemetry seen at http://idefix.net/~koos/newsitem.cgi/1433017519 Koos van den Hout PD4KH -- Koos van den Hout, PGP keyid DSS/1024 0xF0D7C263 via keyservers koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl IPv6: Think ::/0, act ::1. http://idefix.net/ Are you ready to start supporting IPv6? From w9gb at icloud.com Sun May 31 00:51:50 2015 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 19:51:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail-A Reboot Message-ID: <3B1BF3C1-2A3E-47FD-BC8E-8927901FD47A@icloud.com> The Cal Poly ground station detected a reboot of the onboard computer. Cause of reboot unknown, but welcomed to resolve communication issue. https://t.co/XphRtq5hD4 The RTC shows 908,125 seconds (roughly 10.5 days). Software patch will be loaded by ground stations (Cal Poly or Georgia Tech), to prevent re-occurrence of this outage. Two-way communications will be attempted tomorrow. http://sail.planetary.org greg, w9gb -- Sent from iPad Air From my.callsign at verizon.net Sun May 31 00:54:38 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 17:54:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 downlink & power requirements Message-ID: <556A5BCE.1090204@verizon.net> For the afternoon pass 21:17u @ 52 Deg, I used Dave's method and NOT try to match up signals. Use a program that decodes all of the signals and try to reply to as many as I could. With some practice, that should work out better. I don't know if Glenn copied me or not. He was the only satellite CQ I saw. As for power: I can barely see my signal using my di-pole. When I used 85 watts 70% ALC into a 1/2 wave vertical, (10m Ringo) I was able to turn on the FM transmitter and saw a good clean, 21 IMD, signal on the down-link. I have no idea what it looked like for the terrestrial users. I did not have to wait for the telemetry to turn on the FM transmitter, and I did not splatter across the waterfall of the down-link. More practice coming. BOB KO6TZ From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com Sun May 31 01:05:06 2015 From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 20:05:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions Message-ID: Today I got a surprise in the mail. The ARRL sent me two commemorative medallions mounted in a plexiglass display which is engraved "NR0T was W1AW/MN" Very sharp looking addition to the shack. I worked only Satellite QSOs on both of the Minnesota weeks. It is a beautiful commemorative gift and caught me totally by surprised. Thank you ARRL! 73 Rolf NR0T grid = EN34it Memeber of the following organizations: ARRL Life Memeber Minnesota Wireless Association Twin Cities DX Association AMSAT AMSAT-UK From ku4os at cfl.rr.com Sun May 31 01:48:06 2015 From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 21:48:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-151 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <556A6856.6070108@cfl.rr.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-151 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * 2015 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nomination Deadline Approaching * Nick Lance, KC5KBO, SK * Update - VP2MKV Satellite Operation June 11-20 * Planetary Society's LighSail Satellite Stops Transmitting * 29 MHz ? the forgotten frequency for amateur radio satellites SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-151.01 ANS-151 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 151.01 From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD. May 31, 2015 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-151.01 2015 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nomination Deadline Approaching It is time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of Directors election. Four director's terms expire this year: Barry Baines, WD4ASW, Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, Mark Hammond, N8MH, and Jerry Buxton, N0JY. In addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for one year terms. A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and call, and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304 Kensington, MD 20895-2526. In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by electronic means. These include e- mail, Fax, or electronic image of a petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to MARTHA at AMSAT.ORG or Faxed to (301) 822-4371. No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June 15th at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional written nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST be received at the AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days following the close of nominations on June 15th. ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS. [ANS thanks Alan, WA4SCA, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Lance, KC5KBO, SK On behalf of the ARISS-International team, it is with great sadness that we announce the passing of long-time ARISS team member Nick Lance, KC5KBO, SK. Nick passed away on May 24 from an aneurism of the aorta. Nick was a smart, caring, considerate and helpful person that loved the amateur radio hobby. As the primary amateur radio license trainer for the ISS astronauts, Nick played an integral role in encouraging and training countless astronauts (US, Canada, Japan and Europe) to pursue their amateur radio license and become active on ARISS. He inspired and trained dozens of NASA's aerospace education specialists (who talk to schoolteachers nationwide) to get their ham tickets. He also taught a "Hamster" course to middle schoolers, inspiring them to pursue careers in technology through Amateur Radio and ARISS activities. Personally, I enjoyed working with Nick both as a NASA engineer and an amateur radio operator. I will miss his quick wit and sense of humor. Nick will be deeply missed by many. A Celebration of Life for Nick Lance will be held Sunday, June 14, 2015, 2 p.m. at the Gilruth Center. A map to the public entrance of the Gilruth Recreation Center, Building 207 http://ewh.ieee.org/r5/galveston_bay/events/GilruthCenterMapandDirections.pdf A flag will be flown over Mission Control and presented to Renee and the family. Our deepest sympathy goes out to all that knew Nick, especially Renee, his wife, and all his family members. Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO ARISS International Chairman [ANS thanks Frank, KA3HDO, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update - VP2MKV Satellite Operation June 11-20 Operators Barry/N0KV, Ken/W0ETT, Greg/W0ZA and Jim/WD0E will be active as VP2MKV from Gingerbread Hill, St. Peters (grid square FK86), between June 10-18th. Activity will be on 80-2 meters using CW, SSB and RTTY. They will also participate in the ARRL VHF Contest and some satellite operations (FO-29 only on selected passes). The two primary radios will be Elecraft K3's with 500 watt amplifiers. Antennas include a Mosley Classic 33 on 10/15/20, a folding hexbeam by Folding Antennas (Germany) on 20-10 meters, verticals on 30 and 40 meters, a dipole on 75-80 meters, and an M2 5 element 6 meter beam. They will run 500 watts on 6m SSB/CW and FSK441. A 6 meter beacon is planned and will be on 50.102 MHz when the station is not manned, and the receiver will be active between beacon transmissions to listen for calls. The primary callsign for the operation will be VP2MKV, and VP2MTT will probably be used on 6 meters. Near 24 hour operation is planned. Tentative satellite pass plan for VP2MKV operation: They will attempt to be on the first two FO-29 ascending node passes June 11th through 20th. If time allows they may be on the third ascending node those days. Those passes happen in late morning to mid afternoon Montserrat time. On those passes they will look first for South America when the satellite is south of them, then North America, then Europe during the short mutual window. If there are 2 meter or 6 meter terrestrial openings during the VHF contest June 13th and 14th, they will not be on satellite at those times. Logs will be uploaded to LoTW soon after the group returns to the US. Paper QSLs via N0KV, direct or via the bureau. US addressees send SASE; addressees outside the US send SASE plus 2 USDs for return postage. Use of ClubLog has not been finalized at this time. Additional information will be posted under VP2MKV on QRZ.com. [ANS thanks Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1215 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Planetary Society's LighSail Satellite Stops Transmitting Excerpt from the Planetary Society's page http://planet.ly/0gVop As of late Friday afternoon, LightSail was continuing to operate normally. The spacecraft?s ground stations at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and Georgia Tech were receiving data on each pass. Power and temperature readings were trending stably, and the spacecraft was in good health. But inside the spacecraft?s Linux-based flight software, a problem was brewing. Every 15 seconds, LightSail transmits a telemetry beacon packet. The software controlling the main system board writes corresponding information to a file called beacon.csv. If you?re not familiar with CSV files, you can think of them as simplified spreadsheets-in fact, most can be opened with Microsoft Excel. As more beacons are transmitted, the file grows in size. When it reaches 32 megabytes-roughly the size of ten compressed music files-it can crash the flight system. The manufacturer of the avionics board corrected this glitch in later software revisions. But alas, LightSail?s software version doesn?t include the update. Late Friday, the LightSail team received a heads-up warning them of the vulnerability. A fix was quickly devised to prevent the spacecraft from crashing, and it was scheduled to be uploaded during the next ground station pass. But before that happened, LightSail?s automated chirps fell silent. The telemetry data is sent on a downlink of 437.435 MHz, AX.25, 9600 bps FSK. The last data packet received from the spacecraft was May 22 at 21:31 UTC (5:31 p.m. EDT). A LightSail map tracking application is at http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol/ [ANS thanks JoAnne, K9JKM, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 29 MHz ? the forgotten frequency for amateur radio satellites Hans van de Groenendaaal ZS6AKV writes in the EngineerIT magazine about the potential for 29 MHz as a satellite uplink band. Universities and other scientific research institutions are using portions of the amateur spectrum for their CubeSat?s which has caused the 145 and 435 MHz amateur-satellite band segments to be very crowded, leading to an increasing number of satellite builders to explore alternatives. For many, such as those requiring single-channel bandwidth greater than approximately 12.5 kHz, the best answer will be found in the microwave bands. However, for those who can use it, the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) satellite frequency coordination process has now opened another alternative: 29 MHz uplinks. Read the EngineerIT article at http://www.ee.co.za/article/29-mhz-forgotten-frequency-amateur-radio- satellites.html IARU Satellite Frequency Coordination http://www.iaru.org/satellite.html [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Lee McLamb, KU4OS ku4os at amsat dot org From saguaroastro at cox.net Sun May 31 03:41:31 2015 From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 20:41:31 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions Message-ID: Got mine yesterday as well. Agreed it was a nice surprise. Though I did not activate W1AW/7 on sats, I believe I was the only one to activate W1AW/7 from a SOTA summit. 73RickK7TEJ 7 ent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Rolf Krogstad Date: 05/30/2015 18:05 (GMT-07:00) To: "" Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions Today I got a surprise in the mail. The ARRL sent me two commemorative medallions mounted in a plexiglass display which is engraved "NR0T was W1AW/MN" Very sharp looking addition to the shack. I worked only Satellite QSOs on both of the Minnesota weeks. It is a beautiful commemorative gift and caught me totally by surprised. Thank you ARRL! 73 Rolf NR0T grid = EN34it Memeber of the following organizations: ARRL Life Memeber Minnesota Wireless Association Twin Cities DX Association AMSAT AMSAT-UK _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Sun May 31 03:49:15 2015 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 22:49:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <556A84BB.1020400@mwt.net> Is everyone that did these portable stations gonna get one of these? I was W1AW/9 Wisconsin 90% on 30 meters Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 5/30/2015 10:41 PM, Rick Tejera wrote: > > Got mine yesterday as well. Agreed it was a nice surprise. Though I did not activate W1AW/7 on sats, I believe I was the only one to activate W1AW/7 from a SOTA summit. > 73RickK7TEJ > > > 7 ent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Rolf Krogstad > Date: 05/30/2015 18:05 (GMT-07:00) > To: "" > Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions > > Today I got a surprise in the mail. > The ARRL sent me two commemorative medallions mounted in a plexiglass > display which is engraved "NR0T was W1AW/MN" > > Very sharp looking addition to the shack. > I worked only Satellite QSOs on both of the Minnesota weeks. > > It is a beautiful commemorative gift and caught me totally by surprised. > Thank you ARRL! > > 73 > Rolf NR0T > grid = EN34it > > Memeber of the following organizations: > ARRL Life Memeber > Minnesota Wireless Association > Twin Cities DX Association > AMSAT > AMSAT-UK > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From n8hm at arrl.net Sun May 31 03:57:12 2015 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 23:57:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions In-Reply-To: <556A84BB.1020400@mwt.net> References: <556A84BB.1020400@mwt.net> Message-ID: Yes. They should all be mailed by mid-June is what I heard. 73, Paul, N8HM On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Joe wrote: > Is everyone that did these portable stations gonna get one of these? I was > W1AW/9 Wisconsin 90% on 30 meters > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 5/30/2015 10:41 PM, Rick Tejera wrote: > >> Got mine yesterday as well. Agreed it was a nice surprise. Though I >> did not activate W1AW/7 on sats, I believe I was the only one to activate >> W1AW/7 from a SOTA summit. >> 73RickK7TEJ >> >> >> 7 ent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Rolf Krogstad >> Date: 05/30/2015 18:05 (GMT-07:00) >> To: "" >> Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions >> >> Today I got a surprise in the mail. >> The ARRL sent me two commemorative medallions mounted in a plexiglass >> display which is engraved "NR0T was W1AW/MN" >> >> Very sharp looking addition to the shack. >> I worked only Satellite QSOs on both of the Minnesota weeks. >> >> It is a beautiful commemorative gift and caught me totally by surprised. >> Thank you ARRL! >> >> 73 >> Rolf NR0T >> grid = EN34it >> >> Memeber of the following organizations: >> ARRL Life Memeber >> Minnesota Wireless Association >> Twin Cities DX Association >> AMSAT >> AMSAT-UK >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From on4hf at telenet.be Sun May 31 10:08:29 2015 From: on4hf at telenet.be (Eric Knaps, ON4HF) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 12:08:29 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Received PSAT for the first time. Message-ID: <556ADD9D.1080608@telenet.be> Hello, I just received PSAT orbit 161. This is what i got on my screen in mixw. W3ADO-5 beacon B 025 37 25 839 262 +8 W3ADO-5 beacon B 026 62 44 826 258 +11 W3ADO-5 beacon B 027 12 23 822 255 +13 W3ADO-5 beacon B 000 34 43 837 260 +9 W3ADO-5 beacon B 001 59 23 810 254 +12 W3ADO-5 beacon B 002 37 23 838 262 +8 W3ADO-5 beacon B 003 81 46 820 259 +12 W3ADO-5 beacon B 004 65 38 820 258 +14 W3ADO-5 beacon B 005 31 23 821 d59 +15 W3ADO-5 beacon B 006 59 37 817 256 +16 W3ADO-5 beacon B 007 75 42 815 255 +17 W3ADO-5 beacon B 008 81 37 816 257 +18 W3ADO-5 beacon B 009 90 23 814 258 +18 W3ADO-5 beacon B 012 50 23 813 255 +20 W3ADO-5 beacon B 013 28 25 810 253 +20 W3ADO-5 beacon B 014 37 23 820 257 +2d 73, Eric. -- Amateur radio station ON4HF Satellite manager UBA Member Amsat-UK Member Amsat-ON http://www.on4hf.be --- Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. http://www.avast.com From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com Sat May 30 23:36:23 2015 From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 18:36:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/0 MN Medallions Message-ID: Today I got a surprise in the mail. The ARRL sent me two commemorative medallions mounted in a plexiglass display which is engraved "NR0T was W1AW/MN" Very sharp looking addition to the shack. I worked only Satellite QSOs on both of the Minnesota weeks. It is a beautiful commemorative gift and caught me totally by surprised. Thank you ARRL! 73 Rolf NR0T grid = EN34it Memeber of the following organizations: ARRL Life Memeber Minnesota Wireless Association Twin Cities DX Association AMSAT AMSAT-UK From wb2oqq at verizon.net Sun May 31 16:03:31 2015 From: wb2oqq at verizon.net (peter) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 12:03:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DUCHIFAT-1 In-Reply-To: <003601d09703$659d2d40$30d787c0$@net> References: <003601d09703$659d2d40$30d787c0$@net> Message-ID: David, I had a 70 degree pass at 11:16 EST, nothing heard, are you or anyone receiving and data? 73 Peter W2JV From bruninga at usna.edu Sun May 31 16:27:59 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 12:27:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 downlink In-Reply-To: <001f01d09b09$6cf10490$46d30db0$@w0dhb.net> References: <001f01d09b09$6cf10490$46d30db0$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: <7b0687a61a6bd29f2847c16a9bdb7935@mail.gmail.com> I noticed the satellite about 1.5 minutes behind the original ULTRASAT3 elements. I also noticed W0DHO calling CQ PSAT. And a few other signals. Remember, operate full duplex and just leave your transmitter on the full pass and keep your CQ dump going while watching for responses the entire pass. Since most PSK31 programs don't run full duplex, you might need to run two instances? Good luck figuring out the sound cards! Bob -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 2:50 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 downlink I've been observing that with the current keps the Downlink frequency of the PSK31 beacon is about 2Khz low. A good US pass over the US at about 1936. What I have been doing is decoding the entire 3 KHz with DM780's Supersweeper or Fldigi and fixing TX at about 600Hz. That way I catch everybody and there is no need to match frequencies. I've been trying to TX below 1KHz to minimize interfering with folks operating normal 10m PSK. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at w0dhb.net Sun May 31 18:00:40 2015 From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 12:00:40 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 1745 pass Message-ID: <006f01d09bcb$b5078660$1f169320$@w0dhb.net> Copied KO6TZ, KC9DOA and N4ZQ and 2 others who's call signs did not decode here but copied a reference to PSAT Dave W0DHB DN70kc Colorado From my.callsign at verizon.net Sun May 31 19:39:52 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 12:39:52 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 1925 pass In-Reply-To: <006f01d09bcb$b5078660$1f169320$@w0dhb.net> References: <006f01d09bcb$b5078660$1f169320$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: <556B6388.3010803@verizon.net> Copied W0DHB and N4QZ also W3ADO-5 telemetry. KO6TZ Bob From mda at n1en.org Sun May 31 19:11:41 2015 From: mda at n1en.org (Michael Adams) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:11:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 downlink In-Reply-To: <7b0687a61a6bd29f2847c16a9bdb7935@mail.gmail.com> References: <001f01d09b09$6cf10490$46d30db0$@w0dhb.net>, <7b0687a61a6bd29f2847c16a9bdb7935@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It might be worth mentioning: fldigi has a command-line paramer (--condig-dir maybe?) that can be used to set up two instances of the program, listening to two separate frequencies on two separate sound card devices. (I am away from my computer, so I am not positive about the parameter....) -- Michael Adams | mda at n1en.org -------- Original message -------- From: Robert Bruninga Date: 2015/05/31 12:27 (GMT-05:00) To: David W0DHB , amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 downlink I noticed the satellite about 1.5 minutes behind the original ULTRASAT3 elements. I also noticed W0DHO calling CQ PSAT. And a few other signals. Remember, operate full duplex and just leave your transmitter on the full pass and keep your CQ dump going while watching for responses the entire pass. Since most PSK31 programs don't run full duplex, you might need to run two instances? Good luck figuring out the sound cards! Bob -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 2:50 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 downlink I've been observing that with the current keps the Downlink frequency of the PSK31 beacon is about 2Khz low. A good US pass over the US at about 1936. What I have been doing is decoding the entire 3 KHz with DM780's Supersweeper or Fldigi and fixing TX at about 600Hz. That way I catch everybody and there is no need to match frequencies. I've been trying to TX below 1KHz to minimize interfering with folks operating normal 10m PSK. Dave W0DHB _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at w0dhb.net Sun May 31 19:50:56 2015 From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 13:50:56 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 1925 pass In-Reply-To: <556B6388.3010803@verizon.net> References: <006f01d09bcb$b5078660$1f169320$@w0dhb.net> <556B6388.3010803@verizon.net> Message-ID: <007d01d09bdb$1c9cde10$55d69a30$@w0dhb.net> Copied N4ZQ, KO6TZ, N5HYP,WD5DJX had TX problems -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of KO6TZ Bob Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:40 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT 1925 pass Copied W0DHB and N4QZ also W3ADO-5 telemetry. KO6TZ Bob _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kd7yz at denstarfarm.us Sun May 31 19:58:36 2015 From: kd7yz at denstarfarm.us (Bob KD7YZ) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 15:58:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 1925 pass In-Reply-To: <007d01d09bdb$1c9cde10$55d69a30$@w0dhb.net> References: <006f01d09bcb$b5078660$1f169320$@w0dhb.net> <556B6388.3010803@verizon.net> <007d01d09bdb$1c9cde10$55d69a30$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: <556B67EC.6040101@denstarfarm.us> On 31-May-15 1550, David W0DHB wrote: > Copied N4ZQ, KO6TZ, N5HYP,WD5DJX had TX problems I copied ADO and N4ZQ. I was also calling CQ using MixW to my K3 However, I dunno how to adjust the K3 freq for Doppler using SatPC32. It is keeping the IC910H Rx on freq though. Also have DxLabs 'Commander' available fwiw as well as Mixw and digipan ,,,, Omnirig. Some of the traces I watched were pretty horribly doppler shifted and not sure if MixW is able to decode that coming up from ten meters and drifting like the ones I sw. O did make a QSO though on earlier pass of PSAT to AA5PK and that went well. Though he didn't have any drift. 73, -- Bob KD7YZ http://www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz AMSAT LM#901 From my.callsign at verizon.net Sun May 31 20:38:37 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 13:38:37 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 1925 pass In-Reply-To: <556B67EC.6040101@denstarfarm.us> References: <556B67EC.6040101@denstarfarm.us> Message-ID: <556B714D.7010400@verizon.net> >Some of the traces I watched were pretty horribly Doppler shifted and not sure if MixW is able to decode that >coming up from ten meters and drifting like the ones I sw. From me experience on DO-64 and FO-29 using PSK31/63, I found adjusting for Doppler on the SSB up-link is a double edged sword. When the frequency is updated for Doppler, you loose sync for a few characters. If you don't correct the frequency, you will exceed the AFC limit of most programs, except WINPSK. WINPSK doesn't support multi line copy. Also using DigiPan in "munti" mode, there is no AFC. The s/w just creates another line. Pick your poison..... KO6TZ Bob From my.callsign at verizon.net Sun May 31 21:20:53 2015 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:20:53 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 21:05 pass 5/31/15 Message-ID: <556B7B35.1080100@verizon.net> Contact with AA5PK Doing PSK31 on PSAT is enough of a challenge to make it fun. KO6TZ Bob From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sun May 31 21:35:41 2015 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:35:41 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 2100z 5/31/15 pass CM98 Message-ID: <556B7EAD.3010900@gmail.com> Hi all, Tried listening for PSAT for the first time, and had a really nice pass. I don't have the 10m uplink side configured, and this was all manually tuned. So I still have a bit of work to do, but the results exceeded my expectations. Signal peaked at S6 or so, full quieting. I think the Keps (object 90721 Epoch 150.54728009) were a little ahead of reality, maybe 30 seconds to a minute. There was some QSB, but it could also have been my coarse antenna rotation and manual tuning. Radio was a Yaesu FT-847, 2x16 element beam, and with FLDIGI on my Linux box, using the internal (motherboard) sound card. Greg KO6TH W3ADO-5 beacon B 019 43 25 800 260 +10 W3ADO-5 beacon B 020 18 23 797 260 +12 W3ADO-5 beacon B 021 31 23 806 260 +1c W3ADO-5 beacon B 000 43 26 802 249 +11 W3ADO-5 beacon B 002 99 35 796 251 +15 W3ADO-5 beacon B 003 65 30 800 252 +16 W3ADO-5 beacon B 004 99 32 802 252 +17 W3ADO-5 beacon B 007 93 42 796 252 +19 W3ADO-5 beacon B 008 87 23 796 252 +19 tuning (er, clicking) around, found... CQ CQ PSAT KO6TZ KO6TZ CQ CQ PSAT KO6TZ KO6TZ These seemed pretty solid, doppler-wise, but later I couldn't quite lock on to the subsequent QSO (doppler shift slightly too much for FLDIGI) back to the beacon... W3ADO-5 beacon B 011 31 42 798 249 +18 W3ADO-5 beacon B 000 40 31 802 248 +17 W3ADO-5 beacon B 001 81 42 795 251 +19 W3ADO-5 beacon B 002 34 31 799 251 +20 W3ADO-5 beacon B 003 87 37 800 252 +21 W3ADO-5 beacon B 006 68 38 792 251 +22 W3ADO-5 beacon B 007 87 23 792 252 +22 W3ADO-5 beacon B 008 46 43 791 250 +22 W3ADO-5 beacon B 006 37 28 817 250 +23 From w9gb at icloud.com Sun May 31 22:37:05 2015 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 17:37:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LightSail TLE - based on ground station comm. Message-ID: 2-line TLE NORAD ID: 40661U International code: 2015-025L Current LightSail TLE being used on sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol (best fit is ULTRASat8 - not confirmed) 1 40661U 15025L 15150.55115000 +.00017130 +00000-0 +45788-3 0 00150 2 40661 055.0112 297.1659 0249189 205.9605 230.4519 15.12499718001507 === w9gb Sent from iPad Air From bruninga at usna.edu Sun May 31 22:56:04 2015 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 18:56:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT key to success Message-ID: <8e24d16174c55a16dbde0b36d82a25ee@mail.gmail.com> Until we get authors adding Full duplex and AFC to their PSK31, here is a scheme that will work. Focus on the OVERHEAD pass. Horizon to Horizon. Because during these passes, the satellite is coming right at you for the first 5 minutes, and directly away from you for the next 5 minutes. This means the Doppler is nearly constant high during the first 5 minutes and then a rapid shift to a constant LOW for the last 5 minutes. And horribly shifting for the middle 1 minute. Your signal will have very little Doppler on the downlink and most anyone with any kind of PSK31 decoder will decode you fine. Don't do any frequency transmitteirn shift on the uplink or as KO6TZ says, you will cause people to lose lock.. When the satellite crosses overhead, you can then shift your TX frequency UP by 1.15 KHz and people will see you more or less back where you started... maybe. Bob, Wb4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of KO6TZ Bob Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 4:39 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT 1925 pass >Some of the traces I watched were pretty horribly Doppler shifted and not sure if MixW is able to decode that >coming up from ten meters and drifting like the ones I sw. From me experience on DO-64 and FO-29 using PSK31/63, I found adjusting for Doppler on the SSB up-link is a double edged sword. When the frequency is updated for Doppler, you loose sync for a few characters. If you don't correct the frequency, you will exceed the AFC limit of most programs, except WINPSK. WINPSK doesn't support multi line copy. Also using DigiPan in "munti" mode, there is no AFC. The s/w just creates another line. Pick your poison..... KO6TZ Bob _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Sun May 31 23:03:08 2015 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 18:03:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 21:05 pass 5/31/15 In-Reply-To: <556B7B35.1080100@verizon.net> References: <556B7B35.1080100@verizon.net> Message-ID: <84A06FD6CDB6426FB10CAAEB77ECCA36@AA5PKPC> Agree. -----Original Message----- From: KO6TZ Bob Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 4:20 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT 21:05 pass 5/31/15 Contact with AA5PK Doing PSK31 on PSAT is enough of a challenge to make it fun. KO6TZ Bob _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc at fidmail.com Sun May 31 19:17:21 2015 From: af5cc at fidmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:17:21 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 4 stacked 70cm yagis for sale Message-ID: I have for sale a set of 4 10 element 70cm antennas. These have 6 1/2 foot booms and are end mounted. With these antennas comes the H frame stacking framework with mounting brackets. The stacking distance is 3 feet by 4 feet. It also comes with the power divider for the 4 yagis. Everything you need to get the 4 bay system going is there. The antennas are homebrew but very well made, resembling M2 yagis. This system has been used for 70cm EME with good results. The 4 antennas have a common horizontal cross boom to mount in an elevation rotor if desired. I would prefer a face to face deal but shipping is possible if you are willing to pay shipping. I can meet someone in the OKC area, around the Dallas/Fort Worth area, SW Oklahoma or North Texas. You can come to Lawton, OK and pick them up also. It might be possible to deliver this setup to Central States conference in July as well. I am not sure exactly what these are worth, but will entertain offers. This setup will give you a big signal on mode B, or great reception on Mode J, that is for sure. 73 John AF5CC From af5cc at fidmail.com Sun May 31 19:27:14 2015 From: af5cc at fidmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:27:14 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Cushcraft 214B 2 meter beam Message-ID: I have for sale a Cushcraft 214 two meter beam. This beam covers 144-146mhz and has 15 elements on a 15 foot boom, 15.5 dB forward gain and a 24 DB F/B radio. Good condition it just needs a boom to mast clamp, something you can probably make up yourself. This would make a nice uplink antenna for Mode J, or Mode B receiving antenna. I am asking $60 plus shipping for it. 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