[amsat-bb] Link Budget

[Graham Shirville]

Hi Joe,

if they or you would like to play with numbers I can thoroughly recommend a 
number of Jan King's spreadsheets we are hosted here
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/spreadsheet.htm

Of course not only the moon much further away but it gets mighty cold on the 
surface when it is in eclipse...

73

Graham
G3VZV

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 7:57 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Link Budget

Can anyone here run a link budget for me?

I'm in an  slight heated debate with some people, About how they have
heard about the possible Geo synchronous bird coming up, and they are
all wondering why don't "THEY" I like the "THEY" part, anyway why don't
they just put it on the moon.

I gave them several reasons why a Geo bird is better,

1- It is there 24/7 where the moon is visible less than 50% of the day

2- the Geo bird doesn't move ( or extremely little) so set the antenna
and forget it. Where the moon requires tracking programs and antennas
that can move in AZ and EL

3- Useable "Window" The amount of the earths surface that can see either
is soo close to the same why bother I bet a geo bird would be at least
close to 90% of what the moon see's

4- And finally antennas and power required. The moon being soooo much
farther away the amount of power needed each way has to be MUCH more.
And thats what I was wondering say you had a nice decent transponder in
Geo orbit. what power levels say ERP I guess is needed each way?  then
drop the same transponder and how much more erp each way will be needed
to have the same level of contact quality?

Joe WB9SBD

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