From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com Mon Aug 1 00:00:32 2016 From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 00:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Call for Technical Papers: ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference), St. Petersburg, FL, September 16 - 18, 2006 In-Reply-To: <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <772806613.9311838.1470009632064.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> http://www.tapr.org/dcc ARRL/TAPR DCC?Saint Petersburg, FL?September 16 - 18, 2016 Call for Technical Papers Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference and publication in the Conference Proceedings. Annual conference proceedings are published by the ARRL.?Presentation at the conference is not required for publication. Details on Call for Papers & Submission Guidelines are on TAPR DCC web site. ? Submission of papers are due by July 31st, 2016 and should be submitted to:Maty Weinberg, ARRL225 Main StreetNewington, CT 06111or via the Internet to maty at arrl.org Note: Papers may continue to be accepted for a short time after deadline?so please submit your paper as soon as possible if you haven't done so already. http://www.tapr.org/dcc#dcccallforpapers Details on Call for Papers Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference for publication in the Conference Proceedings.Annual conference proceedings are published by the ARRL. Presentation at the conference is not required for publication.The ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference is an international forum for radio amateurs to meet, publish their work, and present new ideas and techniques. Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories, experimental results, and practical applications. Topics include, but are not limited to: - Software Defined Radio (SDR) - Digital voice (D-Star, P25, WinDRM, FDMDV, DRMDV, G4GUO) - Digital satellite communications - Global position system - Precise Timing - Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) - Short messaging (a mode of APRS) - Digital Signal Processing (DSP) - HF digital modes - Internet interoperability with Amateur Radio networks - Spread spectrum - IEEE 802.11 and other Part 15 license-exempt systems adaptable for Amateur Radio - Using TCP/IP networking over Amateur Radio - Mesh and peer to peer wireless networking - Emergency and Homeland Defense backup digital communications in Amateur Radio - Updates on AX.25 and other wireless networking protocols - Topics that advanced the Amateur Radio art Submission Guide Lines Anyone interested in digital communications is invited to submit a paper for publication in the Conference Proceedings. Presentation at the Conference is not required for publication. If you know of someone who is doing great things with digital communications, be sure to personally tell them about this!See?above?for deadlines and where to submit your paper.Some quick guidelines: - Papers should be on 8-1/2 X 11 inch paper with the following margins: left and right, 0.75 inch; top, 0.8 inch; and bottom, 1 inch (very important). - Structure of paper should be (see single column example below, two column should follow a similar format): - Title - Author(s) with affiliation - Abstract (200 words or less) - Key words (3-5) - Body - Reference List - Papers can be in one- or two-column format. - Use 12-point Times Roman for the main body of text;?do not?number pages. - Photos and drawings should have good contrast. Note: a photocopy gives a good indication of print quality. - Electronic submissions can be made in any of the following formats: - Adobe Acrobat PDF; - Microsoft Word - Reference citations and other topics not explicitly discussed in this list should follow a recognized standard format (?APA?, IEEE, etc). - A biographical page is to be included with the manuscript. It should contain Name, Address, Phone, and E-mail for each author as well as a short descriptive paragraph about the first author. The bio page will be used to contact authors concerning the conference and presentation schedule. Release form: A formal release form is not required, but indicate that the paper is being sent for use in the Proceedings of the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference. You are only giving permission for your paper to be printed in the Proceedings.Example Single Column Page Layout? Two column would be similar in nature, but with two columns.?View Paper Example From rhyolite at leikhim.com Mon Aug 1 01:51:32 2016 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 21:51:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] MAKI DENKI GTR-1200 23CM Mast Head 10W PA and LNA NF<0.5dB, Gain 23dB, 1296 MHz Message-ID: MAKI DENKI GTR-1200 23CM Mast Head 10W PA and LNA NF<0.5dB, Gain 23dB, 1296 MHz This item works somewhat, RX yes, TX no, and needs some TLC, but it is complete and unmolested. I am further cleaning out my closets so that I can find my way to the next stage of my ham radio hobby. Frankly I have too much stuff and need to concentrate on a couple projects. http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/162154714460? -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim at Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 1 04:38:57 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 00:38:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Sacred Heart Primary School, New Taipei City, Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <0A1266124C2647EABAC5D9BC304AE6EC@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Sacred Heart Primary School, New Taipei City, Taiwan, R.O.C on 02 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:36 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between OR4ISS and BN0SH. The contact should be audible over Taiwan and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. The Sacred Heart Primary School in Taiwan was founded in 1965 and is part of the world family of Sacred Heart Schools which can be found on five continents. Its philosophy of education is rooted in the development of the whole person. This founding vision was that of a great educator- Madeleine Sophie Barat - who lived at the time of the French Revolution. In her day, as in ours, the social fabric was disintegrating. Her response was to try to rebuild and transform society through an education based on solid intellectual training and spiritual values leading to the development of the whole person. Sacred Heart Education People in East Asia are, to a large extent, shaped by Confucianism, whose tradition stresses respect for teachers and family. Our teachers are provided with regular in service training to enable them to meet the unique challenges of personal and social responsibility, posed by the influence of modern technology and the Western stress on individualism, which are rapidly changing our world. At the same time, they learn to nurture a global awareness and concern in their students. Sacred Heart School strives to give students a well-rounded education, based on the conviction that each person has talents and capacities which can contribute to the betterment of society. We believe that school is the place for students to both acquire a love of learning and experience hope, joy and fullness of life. We are convinced that true human development is based on faith in God's love for each person.Youngsters of various religious beliefs are welcome. Faith is integrated with life and students are offered an education which teaches personal values and emphasizes mutual respect among all people. At the same time, a deep appreciation for intellectual values is cultivated, allowing students to be knowledgeable, questioning, and reflective. Our students are taught to be persons capable of being both independent and able to work with others; of having a compassionate heart, especially for the marginalized of society and of experiencing joy in service and in living for others. Creativity is encouraged in the teaching of all subjects so that the students can develop their own vision and learn to live with commitments. Profile At present the school has 781 students from 7 to 12 years of age. The campus is ideally situated in the suburbs, at the foot of the ?gGoddess of Mercy Mountain?h, with the Tamsui River in the foreground. School buildings are surrounded by spacious gardens with abundant flowers, birds and trees. We believe that both dedicated educators and a healthy environment are essential to quality education which will influence the students for life. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What does it feel like in zero gravity in the outer space? 2. Why do you want to become an astronaut? 3. How long will you stay in the space this time? And what is your mission? 4. How did you feel when you are going to the space? Were you nervous when you take off? 5. What is the most unusual thing that you experienced in the space? 6. How do you put on the space suit? 7. Where does the oxygen you breathe in the space station come from? 8. What does it feel like to be in the space suit? Can you wear glasses when you are in space suit? 9. How do you fly a spaceship? 10. With naked eyes, what objects on earth can you see from the space? 11. Have you seen anything strange such as aliens, black hole or a worm hole? 12. Is there electricity in the spaceship? Is there gas or do you cook in the space? Is there Internet connection in the space ship? 13. Can you watch TV, such as NBA or MLB in the space? 14. Does water feel the same as it is on earth? 15. What do astronauts like to do in space? 16. Do you exercise? Is there a place where you can exercise? 17. What kind of food do you eat? 18. What if there is not enough water or food? 19. What do you do with your pee and poo? 20. Where do you throw your garbage? 21. Can you grow plants in the space? 22. Can you bring a pet there? 23. Have you been to other planets? 24. Do you bump into things when you float? 25. How do you avoid bumping into something? 26. What happened when one of you gets sick? 27. What if you have a runny nose? What happened if you throw up? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Space Jam 10, Rantoul IL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-06 15:59:03 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From scott23192 at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 07:15:42 2016 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 03:15:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Digitalker Recording Message-ID: Since I'm new at this, perhaps the Digitalker on FO-29 is nothing unique. But I heard it tonight for the first time and was recording with my SDRPlay, so if anyone else has not heard it, here is a link to a 1-minute recording with the noise gaps removed: http://k4kdr.github.io/files/2016-08-01--FO29--digitalker.mp3 The quality is not great; I wasn't expecting to see FM. But you can understand a good portion of it. 73! -Scott, K4KDR Montpelier, VA USA From vk2fak at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 09:22:04 2016 From: vk2fak at gmail.com (John Mac) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:22:04 +1000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70cm 1200 AFSK Tlm Message-ID: Hi all... I am trying to find a satellite that transmits 70cm 1200 AFSK on each pass. The reason is to find out whats required as far as antenna , would a preamp be required and the such, while using a Omni style antenna if at all possible....so basically doing some tests. I am looking but have not found one at this stage.. regards John From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Mon Aug 1 10:31:26 2016 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 12:31:26 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] 70cm 1200 AFSK Tlm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi John, O/OREOS, AENEAS NODES1 and NODES2 use 1200 baud AFSK. There are some difficulties with decoding AENEAS 1200 baud AFSK AENEAS 1 38760U 12048C 16211.25109383 +.00003042 +00000-0 +19684-3 0 02073 2 38760 064.6639 313.9738 0152101 219.2666 139.7342 15.01224607029970 NODES1 1 41478U 98067HY 16213.20233302 .00010299 00000-0 14144-3 0 9990 2 41478 51.6388 197.3083 0001656 352.2330 7.8636 15.57952752 11701 NODES2 1 41477U 98067HX 16213.20081472 .00010419 00000-0 14278-3 0 9990 2 41477 51.6388 197.2989 0001706 349.8023 10.2934 15.57996552 11706 OOREOS 1 37224U 10062C 16211.46554583 +.00000158 +00000-0 +27341-4 0 01704 2 37224 071.9710 219.5415 0016830 024.3190 335.8772 14.81720198029635 Frequencies: http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/satellite/frequencies/ 73 Jan PE0SAT On 01-08-2016 11:22, John Mac wrote: > Hi all... > > I am trying to find a satellite that transmits 70cm 1200 AFSK on each > pass. The reason is to find out whats required as far as antenna , > would a preamp be required and the such, while using a Omni style > antenna if at all possible....so basically doing some tests. > I am looking but have not found one at this stage.. > > regards > > John > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 1 10:34:34 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 06:34:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Digitalker Recording In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Scott, The FO-29 digitalker has not been active in many years. What you are hearing is an Echolink or IRLP transmission from the ground. I'll have to try to copy down the numbers to identify it. It sounds like someone was linking nodes together. Unfortunately, it's far too common for people to setup Echolink nodes or personal crossband repeaters in the amateur satellite subband and to hear that through FO-29. What frequency were you hearing it at? 73, Paul, N8HM On Monday, August 1, 2016, Scott wrote: > Since I'm new at this, perhaps the Digitalker on FO-29 is nothing unique. > But I heard it tonight for the first time and was recording with my > SDRPlay, so if anyone else has not heard it, here is a link to a 1-minute > recording with the noise gaps removed: > > http://k4kdr.github.io/files/2016-08-01--FO29--digitalker.mp3 > > The quality is not great; I wasn't expecting to see FM. But you can > understand a good portion of it. > > 73! > > -Scott, K4KDR > Montpelier, VA USA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 1 11:36:57 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 07:36:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Digitalker Recording In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is Echolink node 43609 - WV8CW in Horner, WV operating on 145.900 MHz. Unfortunately he has no email address in QRZ. If anyone knows how to contact WV8CW, please let me know so we can ask him to move out of the amateur satellite subband. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Scott, > > The FO-29 digitalker has not been active in many years. What you are hearing > is an Echolink or IRLP transmission from the ground. I'll have to try to > copy down the numbers to identify it. It sounds like someone was linking > nodes together. > > Unfortunately, it's far too common for people to setup Echolink nodes or > personal crossband repeaters in the amateur satellite subband and to hear > that through FO-29. > > What frequency were you hearing it at? > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > On Monday, August 1, 2016, Scott wrote: >> >> Since I'm new at this, perhaps the Digitalker on FO-29 is nothing unique. >> But I heard it tonight for the first time and was recording with my >> SDRPlay, so if anyone else has not heard it, here is a link to a 1-minute >> recording with the noise gaps removed: >> >> http://k4kdr.github.io/files/2016-08-01--FO29--digitalker.mp3 >> >> The quality is not great; I wasn't expecting to see FM. But you can >> understand a good portion of it. >> >> 73! >> >> -Scott, K4KDR >> Montpelier, VA USA >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From cwo4mann at comcast.net Mon Aug 1 13:50:40 2016 From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:50:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Digitalker Recording In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=3782753&printable Here is the link to the FCC data base. His FRN is 0017840224 73 Dave N4CVX Sent from my iPad > On Aug 1, 2016, at 06:36, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > This is Echolink node 43609 - WV8CW in Horner, WV operating on 145.900 MHz. > > Unfortunately he has no email address in QRZ. If anyone knows how to > contact WV8CW, please let me know so we can ask him to move out of the > amateur satellite subband. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> Scott, >> >> The FO-29 digitalker has not been active in many years. What you are hearing >> is an Echolink or IRLP transmission from the ground. I'll have to try to >> copy down the numbers to identify it. It sounds like someone was linking >> nodes together. >> >> Unfortunately, it's far too common for people to setup Echolink nodes or >> personal crossband repeaters in the amateur satellite subband and to hear >> that through FO-29. >> >> What frequency were you hearing it at? >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> >>> On Monday, August 1, 2016, Scott wrote: >>> >>> Since I'm new at this, perhaps the Digitalker on FO-29 is nothing unique. >>> But I heard it tonight for the first time and was recording with my >>> SDRPlay, so if anyone else has not heard it, here is a link to a 1-minute >>> recording with the noise gaps removed: >>> >>> http://k4kdr.github.io/files/2016-08-01--FO29--digitalker.mp3 >>> >>> The quality is not great; I wasn't expecting to see FM. But you can >>> understand a good portion of it. >>> >>> 73! >>> >>> -Scott, K4KDR >>> Montpelier, VA USA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk5do at amsat.org Mon Aug 1 14:04:10 2016 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 09:04:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Digitalker Recording In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <284f8484-9f28-0796-be65-0268c4d79288@amsat.org> i have contacted the local club in west virginia via email asking if they have an email address for wv8cw. hopefully they do. will let you know. will be easier to email him than send a snail mail. 73...bruce On 8/1/2016 6:36 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > This is Echolink node 43609 - WV8CW in Horner, WV operating on 145.900 MHz. > > Unfortunately he has no email address in QRZ. If anyone knows how to > contact WV8CW, please let me know so we can ask him to move out of the > amateur satellite subband. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> Scott, >> >> The FO-29 digitalker has not been active in many years. What you are hearing >> is an Echolink or IRLP transmission from the ground. I'll have to try to >> copy down the numbers to identify it. It sounds like someone was linking >> nodes together. >> >> Unfortunately, it's far too common for people to setup Echolink nodes or >> personal crossband repeaters in the amateur satellite subband and to hear >> that through FO-29. >> >> What frequency were you hearing it at? >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> >> On Monday, August 1, 2016, Scott wrote: >>> Since I'm new at this, perhaps the Digitalker on FO-29 is nothing unique. >>> But I heard it tonight for the first time and was recording with my >>> SDRPlay, so if anyone else has not heard it, here is a link to a 1-minute >>> recording with the noise gaps removed: >>> >>> http://k4kdr.github.io/files/2016-08-01--FO29--digitalker.mp3 >>> >>> The quality is not great; I wasn't expecting to see FM. But you can >>> understand a good portion of it. >>> >>> 73! >>> >>> -Scott, K4KDR >>> Montpelier, VA USA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 1 15:16:49 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 11:16:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?ARRL_NPOTA_Activation_of_President=E2=80=99s?= =?utf-8?q?_Park_=28The_White_House=29_=E2=80=93_August_5th_=26_Aug?= =?utf-8?q?ust_6th?= Message-ID: Members of the Great South Bay ARC headed by Mike Sartoretti, KC2SYF, have obtained a permit from the National Park Service to operate from President?s Park (The White House) for the ARRL National Parks on the Air event. The operating location will be the southeast side of the Ellipse. The call sign for the operation will be KC2SYF and the park designator is DZ10. Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, will be providing satellite operations and will be active on all voice satellites (SSB/FM) from 1400 UTC to 2100 UTC on Friday, August 5th and Saturday, August 6th. The pass list is below: WinAos QTH: -77.0/38.9 T#: 14096 Sat.: 9 [Standard] ???????????????????- Day Objects AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl AZ ???????????????????- 05.08.2016 AO-85 14:50 15:03 13 25 177 ? 045 05.08.2016 FO-29 15:29 15:42 13 20 125 ? 001 05.08.2016 AO-85 16:30 16:44 14 44 228 ? 027 05.08.2016 FO-29 17:13 17:27 14 48 181 ? 341 05.08.2016 SO-50 17:47 17:58 11 18 342 ? 108 05.08.2016 UKUBE-1 18:05 18:16 11 32 001 ? 217 05.08.2016 AO-07 18:24 18:43 19 27 118 ? 351 05.08.2016 SO-50 19:27 19:40 13 56 324 ? 160 05.08.2016 AO-07 20:14 20:35 21 69 169 ? 342 06.08.2016 AO-73 13:59 14:10 11 40 021 ? 176 06.08.2016 AO-85 15:15 15:29 14 58 198 ? 036 06.08.2016 AO-73 15:36 15:45 09 17 349 ? 234 06.08.2016 FO-29 16:18 16:32 14 54 152 ? 352 06.08.2016 UKUBE-1 16:46 16:57 11 31 025 ? 171 06.08.2016 AO-85 16:57 17:09 12 22 252 ? 021 06.08.2016 AO-07 17:27 17:42 15 12 089 ? 356 06.08.2016 FO-29 18:04 18:17 13 16 208 ? 330 06.08.2016 SO-50 18:12 18:25 13 38 335 ? 131 06.08.2016 AO-07 19:15 19:35 20 55 143 ? 348 06.08.2016 SO-50 19:53 20:04 11 21 313 ? 183 05.08.2016 AO-07 20:14 20:35 21 69 169 ? 342 Planned frequencies for the linear transponders are as follows: AO-7B ? 145.940 MHz AO-73 ? 145.965 MHz FO-29 ? 435.865 MHz UKube-1 ? 145.945 MHz In addition to satellite operations, there will also be two 100 watt HF stations operating split. Bands will be 40, 20, and possibly 10 meters as well as 2 meters simplex. QSL via LoTW. From kc5qbc at swbell.net Mon Aug 1 16:55:30 2016 From: kc5qbc at swbell.net (Floyd Rodgers) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 11:55:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Digitalker Recording In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just took a second and notified him on echolink. He said he would move frequency and was not aware of the satellite. On 8/1/2016 6:36 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > This is Echolink node 43609 - WV8CW in Horner, WV operating on 145.900 MHz. > > Unfortunately he has no email address in QRZ. If anyone knows how to > contact WV8CW, please let me know so we can ask him to move out of the > amateur satellite subband. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> Scott, >> >> The FO-29 digitalker has not been active in many years. What you are hearing >> is an Echolink or IRLP transmission from the ground. I'll have to try to >> copy down the numbers to identify it. It sounds like someone was linking >> nodes together. >> >> Unfortunately, it's far too common for people to setup Echolink nodes or >> personal crossband repeaters in the amateur satellite subband and to hear >> that through FO-29. >> >> What frequency were you hearing it at? >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> >> On Monday, August 1, 2016, Scott wrote: >>> Since I'm new at this, perhaps the Digitalker on FO-29 is nothing unique. >>> But I heard it tonight for the first time and was recording with my >>> SDRPlay, so if anyone else has not heard it, here is a link to a 1-minute >>> recording with the noise gaps removed: >>> >>> http://k4kdr.github.io/files/2016-08-01--FO29--digitalker.mp3 >>> >>> The quality is not great; I wasn't expecting to see FM. But you can >>> understand a good portion of it. >>> >>> 73! >>> >>> -Scott, K4KDR >>> Montpelier, VA USA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w5pfg at amsat.org Mon Aug 1 18:31:30 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 13:31:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Dayton Hamvention Location Update Message-ID: http://www.whio.com/news/news/officials-to-announce-big-event-coming-to-greene-c/nr77W/ 73 Clayton W5PFG From AJ9N at aol.com Tue Aug 2 03:41:17 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 23:41:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-02 03:30 UTC Message-ID: <6b292.194c6f38.44d1705d@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-02 03:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Sacred Heart Primary School, New Taipei City, Taiwan, R.O.C, direct via BN?SH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-02 08:36:03 UTC 33 deg Space Jam 10, Rantoul IL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-06 15:59:03 UTC 32 deg OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, direct via OK2KET The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS (***) Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-08-10 18:56:17 UTC 90 deg (***) U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via VK4KHZ (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-11 15:25:44 UTC 66 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 119 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-02 03:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1074. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1039. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-07-28 04:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From fredcastello at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 00:04:38 2016 From: fredcastello at gmail.com (Fred Castello) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:04:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF Sensing Preamps, Sequencer, or both? Message-ID: <579fe396.e928c80a.c54fd.4af3@mx.google.com> Hi folks, I am in the process of trying to set up a station here and have been researching equipment. While I suspect there will be a fair amount of variety, I am curious to the responses to my question: Do you use the relatively less expensive ?indoor? NON RF switching preamps in an enclosure near the antennas (on the tower) with RF relays and with a sequencer in the shack (do the preamps holdup up on the tower even if protected?) OR Do you use RF sensing preamps mounted at the tower OR Both (for those that are extra careful)? I suspect operators that do other VHF/UHF low signal work tend toward sequencers (one for 2 meters and one for 440), i.e. moon bounce, meteor scatter, etc. Also, I am curious what type/brand/model of RF relays folks use? As usual, I really appreciate your time. Best, Fred Castello, KF4FC From max at boryspil.net.ua Tue Aug 2 08:20:36 2016 From: max at boryspil.net.ua (Max) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:20:36 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM satellite In-Reply-To: <6b292.194c6f38.44d1705d@aol.com> References: <6b292.194c6f38.44d1705d@aol.com> Message-ID: Good afternoon, Tell me, what active FM satellites today. Thank you. From caluml at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 10:37:26 2016 From: caluml at gmail.com (Calum) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:37:26 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM satellite In-Reply-To: References: <6b292.194c6f38.44d1705d@aol.com> Message-ID: If you don't have any software to show you predicted passes, you could use an online service such as: http://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=27607 http://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=40967 This page lists the satellites: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177 On 2 August 2016 at 09:20, Max wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Tell me, what active FM satellites today. > > Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Tue Aug 2 11:01:54 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 07:01:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF Sensing Preamps, Sequencer, or both? In-Reply-To: <579fe396.e928c80a.c54fd.4af3@mx.google.com> References: <579fe396.e928c80a.c54fd.4af3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <048001d1ecad$47776780$d6663680$@com> Sequencers are generally only needed for high power operations over a few hundred watts, which are inappropriate on satellite. I think you'll find most of us use RF switched preamps at the antenna, with a few using them in the shack but with very good feedline. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Fred Castello Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:05 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] RF Sensing Preamps, Sequencer, or both? Hi folks, I am in the process of trying to set up a station here and have been researching equipment. While I suspect there will be a fair amount of variety, I am curious to the responses to my question: Do you use the relatively less expensive ?indoor? NON RF switching preamps in an enclosure near the antennas (on the tower) with RF relays and with a sequencer in the shack (do the preamps holdup up on the tower even if protected?) OR Do you use RF sensing preamps mounted at the tower OR Both (for those that are extra careful)? I suspect operators that do other VHF/UHF low signal work tend toward sequencers (one for 2 meters and one for 440), i.e. moon bounce, meteor scatter, etc. Also, I am curious what type/brand/model of RF relays folks use? As usual, I really appreciate your time. Best, Fred Castello, KF4FC _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Tue Aug 2 11:03:22 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 07:03:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Digitalker Recording In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <048101d1ecad$7c02a320$7407e960$@com> Great work, thank you all. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Floyd Rodgers Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:56 PM To: Paul Stoetzer; Scott Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Digitalker Recording I just took a second and notified him on echolink. He said he would move frequency and was not aware of the satellite. On 8/1/2016 6:36 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > This is Echolink node 43609 - WV8CW in Horner, WV operating on 145.900 MHz. > > Unfortunately he has no email address in QRZ. If anyone knows how to > contact WV8CW, please let me know so we can ask him to move out of the > amateur satellite subband. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> Scott, >> >> The FO-29 digitalker has not been active in many years. What you are hearing >> is an Echolink or IRLP transmission from the ground. I'll have to try to >> copy down the numbers to identify it. It sounds like someone was linking >> nodes together. >> >> Unfortunately, it's far too common for people to setup Echolink nodes or >> personal crossband repeaters in the amateur satellite subband and to hear >> that through FO-29. >> >> What frequency were you hearing it at? >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> >> On Monday, August 1, 2016, Scott wrote: >>> Since I'm new at this, perhaps the Digitalker on FO-29 is nothing unique. >>> But I heard it tonight for the first time and was recording with my >>> SDRPlay, so if anyone else has not heard it, here is a link to a 1-minute >>> recording with the noise gaps removed: >>> >>> http://k4kdr.github.io/files/2016-08-01--FO29--digitalker.mp3 >>> >>> The quality is not great; I wasn't expecting to see FM. But you can >>> understand a good portion of it. >>> >>> 73! >>> >>> -Scott, K4KDR >>> Montpelier, VA USA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From Mvivona at yahoo.com Tue Aug 2 11:31:38 2016 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 07:31:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM satellite In-Reply-To: References: <6b292.194c6f38.44d1705d@aol.com> Message-ID: <2045A192-FE50-4A47-8918-E3AEDD4DC69C@yahoo.com> You might also like this sat tracking link. http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm?localat=28.5208&localon=-81.2917# It is a one stop shop which not only shows the sat passes, but also lists the frequencies and inversion aspects. It's actually a pretty amazing page that is quite new. Kudos to the programmer for building a fantastic page. Michael KC4ZVA Sent from my iPad On Aug 2, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Calum wrote: If you don't have any software to show you predicted passes, you could use an online service such as: http://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=27607 http://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=40967 This page lists the satellites: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177 > On 2 August 2016 at 09:20, Max wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > Tell me, what active FM satellites today. > > Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From plaws0 at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 15:24:22 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 10:24:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM satellite In-Reply-To: <2045A192-FE50-4A47-8918-E3AEDD4DC69C@yahoo.com> References: <6b292.194c6f38.44d1705d@aol.com> <2045A192-FE50-4A47-8918-E3AEDD4DC69C@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB wrote: > You might also like this sat tracking link. > http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm?localat=28.5208&localon=-81.2917# > > It is a one stop shop which not only shows the sat passes, but also lists the frequencies and inversion aspects. It's actually a pretty amazing page that is quite new. Kudos to the programmer for building a fantastic page. It's a GREAT page. The author just added a column that shows the countdown to AOS. Be sure to set your WW loc at the bottom and then pull up the satellite page to narrow down the list of spacecraft that you are interested in. Great work by AMSAT-LU! -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From wx4tv at hamradio.world Tue Aug 2 15:52:09 2016 From: wx4tv at hamradio.world (WX4TV) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:52:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PJ6Y from Saba (FK87jp) Message-ID: <62DE95C3-7A17-41D9-A19D-BF5EC38B4AE3@hamradio.world> PJ6Y (11 year old AE4FH at the mic) is QRV from Saba (FK87jp) at 15:57:48 EDT today. It's an 89 degree pass here in Saba so not too much coverage into NA. Our QTH is 1300 feet ASL and faces north. We should have several great passes in the next week. We will definitely be on SO-50 and FO-29. We will attempt AO-85 and Lilacsat. This is the only SO-50 pass we will do with NA coverage from here today. James Lea Sent from my iPhone From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 2 16:09:11 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 12:09:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 in LoTW Message-ID: The ARRL has informed me that TQSL configuration file version 9.3 will be released shortly adding support for UKube-1 in LoTW. Due to character limitations, the satellite name for LoTW will be "UKUBE1" 73, Paul, N8HM From richard.siff at verizon.net Tue Aug 2 16:10:49 2016 From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 12:10:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PJ6Y from Saba (FK87jp) In-Reply-To: <62DE95C3-7A17-41D9-A19D-BF5EC38B4AE3@hamradio.world> References: <62DE95C3-7A17-41D9-A19D-BF5EC38B4AE3@hamradio.world> Message-ID: <7738A14FC2744AB1B0807288AA6622D6@BanjoPC> Many great QSOs God Bless R W4BUE -----Original Message----- From: WX4TV Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:52 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PJ6Y from Saba (FK87jp) PJ6Y (11 year old AE4FH at the mic) is QRV from Saba (FK87jp) at 15:57:48 EDT today. It's an 89 degree pass here in Saba so not too much coverage into NA. Our QTH is 1300 feet ASL and faces north. We should have several great passes in the next week. We will definitely be on SO-50 and FO-29. We will attempt AO-85 and Lilacsat. This is the only SO-50 pass we will do with NA coverage from here today. James Lea Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pconver at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 16:47:28 2016 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:47:28 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM satellite In-Reply-To: References: <6b292.194c6f38.44d1705d@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello Max, You can try http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm Clicking on 'FM Voice Sat' Icon you tracht only those satellites. Passes are given graphically in your local time for your location, as well as the frequencies to use for receive/transmit/beacon updated by Doppler. Good Luck with the birds. 73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:20 AM, Max wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Tell me, what active FM satellites today. > > Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Tue Aug 2 17:42:06 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 09:42:06 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject) Message-ID: <201608021742.u72Hg74A023933@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Fred, I would guess most use RF sense switched mast-head preamps since they are using radios with a single antenna connector. But some folks modify the radio so the Rx has an independent antenna input isolated from the Tx so they can run a separate coax line to a simple preamp and use a coax relay on the antenna side of the preamp. This requires a separate coax run to the Tx output. This second approach is not uncommon approach for those involved in serious weak-signal VHF+ operating (which includes eme). I have both approaches at my station. I have several DEMI transverters that provide separate Tx and Rx antenna connection so a simple remote located preamp with TR relay can be used. But I also have a FT-736R (unmodified) which can use a yagi with Rf sense-switched preamp and only requires one coax run. I do have external switching control line to that preamp which will require adding ext. PTT from the FT-736R. I originally used preamps for 144 & 432 with separate TR relays for my AO-40 era satellite set up and will be restoring that this summer. This will require modifying my FT-736R. I use a station control panel with integrated sequencer, but that was done for eme and other weak-signal operation (not specifically for satellite). My satellite control ckts will utilize the sequencer (which provides extra protection to the preamps - but not normally used by satellite stations. 73, Ed - KL7UW From: Fred Castello To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Subject: [amsat-bb] RF Sensing Preamps, Sequencer, or both? Message-ID: <579fe396.e928c80a.c54fd.4af3 at mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi folks, I am in the process of trying to set up a station here and have been researching equipment. While I suspect there will be a fair amount of variety, I am curious to the responses to my question: Do you use the relatively less expensive ?indoor? NON RF switching preamps in an enclosure near the antennas (on the tower) with RF relays and with a sequencer in the shack (do the preamps holdup up on the tower even if protected?) OR Do you use RF sensing preamps mounted at the tower OR Both (for those that are extra careful)? I suspect operators that do other VHF/UHF low signal work tend toward sequencers (one for 2 meters and one for 440), i.e. moon bounce, meteor scatter, etc. Also, I am curious what type/brand/model of RF relays folks use? As usual, I really appreciate your time. Best, Fred Castello, KF4FC 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 18:23:52 2016 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:23:52 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] RF Sensing Preamps, Sequencer, or both? In-Reply-To: <579fe396.e928c80a.c54fd.4af3@mx.google.com> References: <579fe396.e928c80a.c54fd.4af3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <57A0E538.2040308@gmail.com> Hi Fred, With most satellite operation being somewhat weak, a preamp at the antenna is best. I put mine where the flex cable from the antenna couples to the hardline going down to the shack, and use the outdoor models for weather protection. RF sense switching is not needed in theory (most satellite operation is cross-band), but it's good protection for the inevitable inadvertent mis-configuration down in the shack. Also needed if you do terrestrial work. You didn't ask, but I supply power to the preamps separate from the coax, because the lightning protection devices I have are DC-blocking. Of course, that separate wire should be protected too, and (currently!) isn't. I think if I could have used the rig's internal preamp power, the sequencing of power would be handled automatically. I believe my 2m preamp is from SSB Electronics. The 70cm one (a ham-swap find) might be from ARR. Both have been up there for years, no problems. Greg KO6TH Fred Castello wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am in the process of trying to set up a station here and have been researching equipment. While I suspect there will be a fair amount of variety, I am curious to the responses to my question: > > Do you use the relatively less expensive ?indoor? NON RF switching preamps in an enclosure near the antennas (on the tower) with RF relays and with a sequencer in the shack (do the preamps holdup up on the tower even if protected?) OR > > Do you use RF sensing preamps mounted at the tower OR > > Both (for those that are extra careful)? I suspect operators that do other VHF/UHF low signal work tend toward sequencers (one for 2 meters and one for 440), i.e. moon bounce, meteor scatter, etc. > > Also, I am curious what type/brand/model of RF relays folks use? > > As usual, I really appreciate your time. > Best, > Fred Castello, KF4FC > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w5pfg at amsat.org Tue Aug 2 21:51:47 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 16:51:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 in LoTW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1798c89d-3aee-f95a-1ff8-3eef381517fc@amsat.org> Simply launching the TQSL application should inform you that a new configuration file is available. I've updated my log and uploaded all of my UKube-1 contacts with the new SAT_NAME parameter UKUBE1. No matches, yet... :-) 73 Clayton W5PFG On 8/2/2016 11:09, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > The ARRL has informed me that TQSL configuration file version 9.3 will > be released shortly adding support for UKube-1 in LoTW. > > Due to character limitations, the satellite name for LoTW will be "UKUBE1" > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM From plaws0 at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 21:55:05 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 16:55:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 in LoTW In-Reply-To: <1798c89d-3aee-f95a-1ff8-3eef381517fc@amsat.org> References: <1798c89d-3aee-f95a-1ff8-3eef381517fc@amsat.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > Simply launching the TQSL application should inform you that a new > configuration file is available. I've updated my log and uploaded all of my > UKube-1 contacts with the new SAT_NAME parameter UKUBE1. No matches, yet... > :-) What do we need to do to get teh UKube Dudes to get an OSCAR number? :-) -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From ea4gqs at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 08:41:10 2016 From: ea4gqs at gmail.com (Felix Paez EA4GQS) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:41:10 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] GRID IN91 5th and 6th August in FM sats Message-ID: Hi Friends, I will be transmiting from GRID IN91 (callsign EA4GQS) (small Jaraba village near Zaragoza, in Spain) in avaliable FM sats. Almost sure passes: Friday 5th: SO-50 14:33 UTC, LilacSat 2 17:37 UTC (if active), FOX 1A 20:09 UTC Saturday 6th: SO-50 13:18 UTC. As always all QSOs confirmed by LOTW.. 73s - Felix EA4GQS From w7lrd at comcast.net Wed Aug 3 18:17:16 2016 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 18:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-w32A Message-ID: <433446633.51525447.1470248236849.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> This is not mine-just pointing it out to anyone looking for a good sat hand held 73 Bob W7LRD http://www.ebay.com/itm/391518060986?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 3 18:20:13 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:20:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-w32A In-Reply-To: <433446633.51525447.1470248236849.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <433446633.51525447.1470248236849.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: Unfortunately we can't see whether or not the serial number is 5 or 7 digits. The newer 7 digit models desense themselves when transmitting on 2 meters and receiving on 70cm. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > This is not mine-just pointing it out to anyone looking for a good sat hand held > 73 Bob W7LRD > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/391518060986?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n4ufo at yahoo.com Wed Aug 3 21:26:29 2016 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 21:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-w32A References: <2097522287.1736784.1470259589800.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2097522287.1736784.1470259589800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Unfortunately a lot of 5 digit serial numbers desense themselves as well... I know, I have gone through two different 5 digit models without success. The real way to tell is if a soft mod (pushing some buttons on the keypad) will open up the radio to 800 Mhz receive. When they were forced to removed the 800 Mhz capability, that is when they changed the filtering and the desense on Mode J began. Extended RX soft mod: Extended receive range (adds 300mhz and 800mhz range, mirrors celluar at 961.11-986.10) A. Turn off HT B. Hold down Main, Band, Call & Squelch while turning on HT. 73, Kevin N4UFO -------------------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately we can't see whether or not the serial number is 5 or 7 digits. The newer 7 digit models desense themselves when transmitting on 2 meters and receiving on 70cm. 73, Paul, N8HM From wageners at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 00:03:53 2016 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 19:03:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-w32A In-Reply-To: <2097522287.1736784.1470259589800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2097522287.1736784.1470259589800.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2097522287.1736784.1470259589800.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Kevin, That is great info! Thank you. I always wondered about that having gone through several W32A with major desense. 73, Stefan VE4NSA On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Kevin M via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Unfortunately a lot of 5 digit serial numbers desense themselves as > well... I know, I have gone through two different 5 digit models without > success. The real way to tell is if a soft mod (pushing some buttons on the > keypad) will open up the radio to 800 Mhz receive. When they were forced to > removed the 800 Mhz capability, that is when they changed the filtering and > the desense on Mode J began. > > > Extended RX soft mod: Extended receive range (adds 300mhz and 800mhz > range, mirrors celluar at 961.11-986.10) > > A. Turn off HT > > B. Hold down Main, Band, Call & Squelch while turning on HT. > > 73, Kevin N4UFO > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Unfortunately we can't see whether or not the serial number is 5 or 7 > digits. The newer 7 digit models desense themselves when transmitting > on 2 meters and receiving on 70cm. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From AJ9N at aol.com Thu Aug 4 05:48:00 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 01:48:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-04 06:00 UTC Message-ID: <98803.5ea61afa.44d43110@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-04 06:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Sacred Heart Primary School, New Taipei City, Taiwan, R.O.C, direct via BN?SH The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact was successful: Tue 2016-08-02 08:36:03 UTC 33 deg (***) Space Jam 10, Rantoul IL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-06 15:59:03 UTC 32 deg OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, direct via OK2KET The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-08-10 18:56:17 UTC 90 deg U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-11 15:25:44 UTC 66 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 120 (***) Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-04 06:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1075. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1040. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-04 06:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 10:35:01 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 06:35:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] How to Track the ISS with Heavens-Above.com Message-ID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lWQrtLQvE Track the ISS, SO-50, or any other satellite. http://heavens-above.com/ New videos every Wednesday! Please Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1 Equipment I use for ISS Reception: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3JwOwjYIkM Thanks for watching and 73, John Brier, KG4AKV From nss at mwt.net Thu Aug 4 14:00:19 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:00:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators Message-ID: While I was getting ready to activate a NO-84 Station here. I noticed my computer logging program had a small glitch with trying to log a contact on this bird. we got it semi worked out, it was the designator for the mode. ya know like Mode "A" or mode "J" etc. The program writer has many, but it did not have what this NO-84 is running and from what I see here, Designator *H* *A* *V* *U* *L* *S* *S2* *C* *X* *K* *R* Band 15 m 10 m 2 m 70 cm 23 cm 13 cm 9 cm 5 cm 3 cm 1.2 cm 6 mm Frequency (General) 21 MHz 29 MHz 145 MHz 435 MHz 1.2 GHz 2.4 GHz 3.4 GHz 5 GHz 10 GHz 24 GHz 47 GHz I'm guessing it would be mode "AU"? Now he was asking for a as complete list as possible of all modes that are possible, can anyone tell me what to tell him? he wants to add them all to his software. Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com From nss at mwt.net Thu Aug 4 14:15:41 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:15:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> wow sorry guys that all got broken up by the e mail list, I was referring to the chart on the wiki page, that lists the letters for the modes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio_satellite Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/4/2016 9:00 AM, Joe wrote: > While I was getting ready to activate a NO-84 Station here. I noticed > my computer logging program had a small glitch with trying to log a > contact on this bird. > > we got it semi worked out, it was the designator for the mode. ya > know like Mode "A" or mode "J" etc. > > The program writer has many, but it did not have what this NO-84 is > running and from what I see here, > > Designator > *H* > > > *A* > > > *V* > > > *U* > > > *L* > > > *S* > > > *S2* > > > *C* > > > *X* > > > *K* > > > *R* > > Band 15 m 10 m > 2 m > 70 cm > 23 cm > 13 cm > 9 cm > 5 cm > 3 cm > 1.2 cm > 6 mm > > Frequency > (General) 21 MHz 29 MHz 145 MHz 435 MHz 1.2 > GHz 2.4 GHz 3.4 GHz 5 GHz 10 GHz 24 GHz 47 GHz > > > > I'm guessing it would be mode "AU"? > > Now he was asking for a as complete list as possible of all modes that > are possible, can anyone tell me what to tell him? he wants to add > them all to his software. > > Joe WB9SBD > From kb1pvh at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 14:18:13 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:18:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> Message-ID: Joe, There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the BB archives. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S7 From nss at mwt.net Thu Aug 4 14:22:11 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:22:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> Message-ID: <38e2f2d2-a3f5-3dd1-f747-bca4e09c8213@mwt.net> How'd I Miss that? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > Joe, > > There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the > BB archives. > > Dave-KB1PVH > > Sent from my Galaxy S7 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From plaws0 at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 14:24:46 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:24:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > Joe, > > There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the > BB archives. > Unfortunately, there was no consensus. Factions were evenly split between "we must do exactly as we did 30-40 years ago", "who cares, do whatever you want", and "can we not bring some order to this science and engineering hobby?" Personally, I'm in favor of the "new scheme" that AMSAT came up with, I believe for AO-40, with a letter for each band in the form of Z/y, where Z is the uplink and y is the downlink. The laminated sheets sold by AMSAT at Dayton and other places uses this consistently. Unfortunately, adherence to the 10+ year old "new" way of denoting modes is only supported half-heartedly by AMSAT itself. -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From nss at mwt.net Thu Aug 4 14:36:19 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:36:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> Message-ID: <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Wow, Found it, http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program developer guy! He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible. But wow, Now what? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > Joe, > > There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the > BB archives. > > Dave-KB1PVH > > Sent from my Galaxy S7 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Thu Aug 4 14:48:56 2016 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 14:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: <460631935.9093785.1470322136909.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Perhaps tell him with some clever programming, perhaps he can provide the "one ring to bind them" all ? If there is no concensus, then the logger could just take the different formats and provide the user (you) a way to designate any valid method? Frankly, speaking for myself as? "newer"? to hamsats, I do not find the Mode, nor AMSAT Z/y designator particularly useful.? No other splits, or methods, across ham radio use such designators. I think Bob B's suggestion of using Frequency the best going forward, even though there was no concensus. Rob KA2CZU On Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:36 AM, Joe wrote: Wow, Found it, http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program developer guy! He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible. But wow,? Now what? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > Joe, > > There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the > BB? archives. > > Dave-KB1PVH > > Sent from my Galaxy S7 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 4 14:52:27 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:52:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: Almost all of them are already in DXLab. Very little needs to be added. It's not really a necessary field (since you already have the RX and TX band fields), so maybe AU should be added for NO-84, PSAT-2, and any past and future PSK transponders, but most are already covered in the software. I think CX is already in there for the future AMSAT "five and dime" projects, but if it's not, it should be added. If SX isn't in there yet, it should be added for Phase 4A (I'm at work without DXlab installed, so I can't check the existing list). 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Joe wrote: > Wow, Found it, > > http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html > > And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program developer > guy! > > He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible. > > But wow, Now what? > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: >> >> Joe, >> >> There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the >> BB archives. >> >> Dave-KB1PVH >> >> Sent from my Galaxy S7 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb1pvh at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 14:56:38 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:56:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: How does all that work out when going to upload to LOTW? Does it automatically convert TX band to 2m, 70cm, and so on or does that also need to be done manually? Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S7 From plaws0 at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 14:59:02 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:59:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Joe wrote: > But wow, Now what? AMSAT, at some level, needs to get on the stick, make a decision, stick with it, then clean up the website to reflect that decision. If this were the ARRL, I'd harangue my Division Director about it and maybe, if I was lucky, something would happen (I've actually seen that happen once!). I've not paid enough attention to AMSAT in the past to know how to do that here and I've only been a member since Dayton. As it is, you can pick your designators. You can choose 1994 (http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html) or 1998 (ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/press-releases/p3dfact2.pdf) and point to definitive documentation at AMSAT's own site. I bet if you googled a little harder, you could come up with others, even. I've offered in the past to help clean up crufty old stuff on the site before and I make the same offer again. At the very least, the cruft needs to be marked as cruft with links to current documentation. -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 4 15:00:00 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:00:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: No, it's a separate field and not required for LoTW. You have to enter the band/frequency fields separately. The mode field is completely unnecessary, but is part of the ADIF spec. I like to set it so I can run stats easily on Mode B vs. Mode J, but it's still somewhat redundant. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > How does all that work out when going to upload to LOTW? Does it > automatically convert TX band to 2m, 70cm, and so on or does that also need > to be done manually? > > Dave-KB1PVH > > Sent from my Galaxy S7 From nss at mwt.net Thu Aug 4 15:04:49 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:04:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: <460631935.9093785.1470322136909.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> <460631935.9093785.1470322136909.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I also like the frequency thing except, HZ? KHZ? MHZ? GHZ? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/4/2016 9:48 AM, Robert Switzer wrote: > Perhaps tell him with some clever programming, perhaps he can provide > the "one ring to bind them" all ? > > If there is no concensus, then the logger could just take the > different formats and provide the user (you) > a way to designate any valid method? > > Frankly, speaking for myself as "newer" to hamsats, I do not find > the Mode, nor AMSAT Z/y designator > particularly useful. No other splits, or methods, across ham radio > use such designators. I think Bob B's > suggestion of using Frequency the best going forward, even though > there was no concensus. > > Rob KA2CZU > > > On Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:36 AM, Joe wrote: > > > Wow, Found it, > > http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html > > And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program > developer guy! > > He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible. > > But wow, Now what? > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > > Joe, > > > > There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe > search the > > BB archives. > > > > Dave-KB1PVH > > > > Sent from my Galaxy S7 > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA > makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA > makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From nss at mwt.net Thu Aug 4 15:07:41 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:07:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: Hi Paul, Yeah adding it ( if needed was easy with the SAT list) too bad Dave doesn't have a also easily edited list for the modes so we can just do the work for him ya know? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/4/2016 9:52 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Almost all of them are already in DXLab. Very little needs to be added. > > It's not really a necessary field (since you already have the RX and > TX band fields), so maybe AU should be added for NO-84, PSAT-2, and > any past and future PSK transponders, but most are already covered in > the software. > > I think CX is already in there for the future AMSAT "five and dime" > projects, but if it's not, it should be added. If SX isn't in there > yet, it should be added for Phase 4A (I'm at work without DXlab > installed, so I can't check the existing list). > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Joe wrote: >> Wow, Found it, >> >> http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html >> >> And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program developer >> guy! >> >> He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible. >> >> But wow, Now what? >> >> Joe WB9SBD >> Sig >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >> Idle Tyme >> Idle-Tyme.com >> http://www.idle-tyme.com >> On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: >>> Joe, >>> >>> There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the >>> BB archives. >>> >>> Dave-KB1PVH >>> >>> Sent from my Galaxy S7 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Thu Aug 4 15:08:30 2016 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 15:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: <1149003209.9413606.1470323310585.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Which is why, with software, especially software being actively developed, you shouldn't have to worry about it at all. Just set the T/R Frequencies and the designator or mode can easily be derived, in LOTW or any other logger. Rob KA2CZU On Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:00 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: No, it's a separate field and not required for LoTW. You have to enter the band/frequency fields separately. The mode field is completely unnecessary, but is part of the ADIF spec. I like to set it so I can run stats easily on Mode B vs. Mode J, but it's still somewhat redundant. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > How does all that work out when going to upload to LOTW? Does it > automatically convert TX band to 2m, 70cm, and so on or does that also need > to be done manually? > > Dave-KB1PVH > > Sent from my Galaxy S7 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 4 15:08:36 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:08:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: The official AMSAT mode designations are the modern versions that were created for the Phase 3D project (which through out the old mode system because of the matrix design that allowed any transmitter to linked to any receiver). The current version of the website as well as AMSAT publications (such as the Getting Started guide) reflect the modern AMSAT mode designations (though often with the old designations in parentheticals). The sites you have listed are not part of the current AMSAT website. They are retained on the server solely as historical material. Please contact Joe Fitzgerald, KM1P, if you would like to help mark and organize the AMSAT website archives. We are extremely short of volunteers to help maintain and create content for the website and would be grateful for any assistance that could be provided. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Peter Laws wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Joe wrote: >> But wow, Now what? > > AMSAT, at some level, needs to get on the stick, make a decision, > stick with it, then clean up the website to reflect that decision. If > this were the ARRL, I'd harangue my Division Director about it and > maybe, if I was lucky, something would happen (I've actually seen that > happen once!). I've not paid enough attention to AMSAT in the past to > know how to do that here and I've only been a member since Dayton. > > As it is, you can pick your designators. You can choose 1994 > (http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html) or 1998 > (ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/press-releases/p3dfact2.pdf) and point to > definitive documentation at AMSAT's own site. I bet if you googled a > little harder, you could come up with others, even. > > > I've offered in the past to help clean up crufty old stuff on the site > before and I make the same offer again. At the very least, the cruft > needs to be marked as cruft with links to current documentation. > > > > -- > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Thu Aug 4 15:11:15 2016 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 15:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> <460631935.9093785.1470322136909.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1561596703.9428323.1470323475230.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Pick MHz if you have to, but again, it's a simple form change to specify. Really, we are not programming in assembly language any longer. Rob KA2CZU Show original message On Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:05 AM, Joe wrote: I also like the frequency thing except, HZ? KHZ? MHZ? GHZ? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/4/2016 9:48 AM, Robert Switzer wrote: > Perhaps tell him with some clever programming, perhaps he can provide > the "one ring to bind them" all ? > > If there is no concensus, then the logger could just take the > different formats and provide the user (you) > a way to designate any valid method? > > Frankly, speaking for myself as? "newer"? to hamsats, I do not find > the Mode, nor AMSAT Z/y designator > particularly useful.? No other splits, or methods, across ham radio > use such designators. I think Bob B's > suggestion of using Frequency the best going forward, even though > there was no concensus. > > Rob KA2CZU > > > On Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:36 AM, Joe wrote: > > > Wow, Found it, > > http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html > > And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program > developer guy! > > He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible. > > But wow,? Now what? > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > > Joe, > > > > There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe > search the > > BB? archives. > > > > Dave-KB1PVH > > > > Sent from my Galaxy S7 > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA > makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA > makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From plaws0 at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 15:13:27 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:13:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> <460631935.9093785.1470322136909.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Joe wrote: > I also like the frequency thing except, > HZ? > KHZ? > MHZ? > GHZ? The ADIF standard is MHz. Bands are defined with MHz limits. How a program (or LOTW) displays those frequencies is up to those programs. You'll find that the DXLab Suite adheres very closely to the ADIF and with good reason if you see who is a main driver behind the latter. :-) SAT_MODE and SAT_NAME are both strings, not enumerated variables, so it's up to the software author to put something there that makes sense. This is what AA6YQ is trying to do but, sadly, AMSAT doesn't have a standard it's willing to stick with. -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From plaws0 at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 15:22:25 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:22:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Please > contact Joe Fitzgerald, KM1P, if you would like to help mark and > organize the AMSAT website archives. We are extremely short of > volunteers to help maintain and create content for the website and > would be grateful for any assistance that could be provided. I'll assume that he's the Joe CC'd. Joe - let me know how I can help. -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 4 15:25:10 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:25:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> <460631935.9093785.1470322136909.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: "AMSAT doesn't have a standard it's willing to stick with." As I've said many times, we do have a standard. We've had the same standard for nearly 20 years. It's reflected on the website and in AMSAT publications. Many of us choose to use the old mode designations out of tradition, especially when operating on AO-7 (which, literally does have Modes A and B) and I like the single letter mode descriptions out of simplicity. Software developers that want to provide a field for the satellite mode designator should permit the use of single letter designators (which include the old hybrid single letter designators, like AJ, plus JA and JD for analog vs. digital) as well as the dual letter designators. Dual letter designators are easy, but only go up to 47 GHz. Permit the use of any of these letters as the up or downlink as appropriate for the satellite: H A V U L S S2 C X K R 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Peter Laws wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Joe wrote: >> I also like the frequency thing except, >> HZ? >> KHZ? >> MHZ? >> GHZ? > > > The ADIF standard is MHz. Bands are defined with MHz limits. How a > program (or LOTW) displays those frequencies is up to those programs. > You'll find that the DXLab Suite adheres very closely to the ADIF and > with good reason if you see who is a main driver behind the latter. > :-) > > SAT_MODE and SAT_NAME are both strings, not enumerated variables, so > it's up to the software author to put something there that makes > sense. > > This is what AA6YQ is trying to do but, sadly, AMSAT doesn't have a > standard it's willing to stick with. > > > > > -- > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at k5nd.net Thu Aug 4 15:11:41 2016 From: jim at k5nd.net (Jim Wilson) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:11:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators In-Reply-To: References: <68c9f502-4b53-7f62-9fef-e69c8c2cc28b@mwt.net> <4f17816d-a65b-7844-d572-06898ceba929@mwt.net> Message-ID: I will note this excellent write up on logging satellite QSOs on Logbook of the World. N5JB boils it down to exactly what?s needed for LoTW confirmations. https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/satellite-qsos/ FYI. Jim Wilson, K5ND > On Aug 4, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > The official AMSAT mode designations are the modern versions that were > created for the Phase 3D project (which through out the old mode > system because of the matrix design that allowed any transmitter to > linked to any receiver). The current version of the website as well as > AMSAT publications (such as the Getting Started guide) reflect the > modern AMSAT mode designations (though often with the old designations > in parentheticals). > > The sites you have listed are not part of the current AMSAT website. > They are retained on the server solely as historical material. Please > contact Joe Fitzgerald, KM1P, if you would like to help mark and > organize the AMSAT website archives. We are extremely short of > volunteers to help maintain and create content for the website and > would be grateful for any assistance that could be provided. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Peter Laws wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Joe wrote: >>> But wow, Now what? >> >> AMSAT, at some level, needs to get on the stick, make a decision, >> stick with it, then clean up the website to reflect that decision. If >> this were the ARRL, I'd harangue my Division Director about it and >> maybe, if I was lucky, something would happen (I've actually seen that >> happen once!). I've not paid enough attention to AMSAT in the past to >> know how to do that here and I've only been a member since Dayton. >> >> As it is, you can pick your designators. You can choose 1994 >> (http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html) or 1998 >> (ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/press-releases/p3dfact2.pdf) and point to >> definitive documentation at AMSAT's own site. I bet if you googled a >> little harder, you could come up with others, even. >> >> >> I've offered in the past to help clean up crufty old stuff on the site >> before and I make the same offer again. At the very least, the cruft >> needs to be marked as cruft with links to current documentation. >> >> >> >> -- >> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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RSGB and AMSAT-UK responses https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/01/ofcom-5-ghz-rsgb-amsat-uk/ Amateur radio satellite presentations at EMF 2016 Guildford Aug 5-7 https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/04/amateur-radio-emfcamp/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Thu Aug 4 21:53:42 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:53:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Space Jam 10, Rantoul IL Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Space Jam 10, Rantoul IL on 06 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 15:59 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between OR4ISS and IK1SLD. The contact should be audible over Italy and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Greetings from the participants and volunteers of Space Jam 10 in Rantoul, Illinois. Though primarily a weekend Scouting and STEM education event, we are open to all interested youth. Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts from 27 states have come together in an educational and fun format to learn life skills that will prepare them for the increasingly complex future. We are adding Art to STEM this year making STEAM. While it is well known that Scouting teaches pioneering skills like camping and wilderness survival, the new pioneers and wilderness are in outer space and we are working hard at 44 technology oriented Merit Badges and activities, plus some fun things like the Duct Tape Merit Badge. Talking to the astronauts on the ISS is an unforgettable part of the experience at Space Jam and that's next on our list. We will not know for many years whether one of these youths becomes an astronaut themselves but it is certain that they are all part of tomorrow's leaders. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. How do you train to sleep in space? 2. What type of engine propulsion will we use to go to Mars? 3. Could we drop containers to the Mars surface but leave the engine in orbit? 4. Would a steam powered train whistle work in space? 5. How long did you train for this mission? 6. Could cables be stretched to an EARTH orbiting station & used as tracks to reach orbit? 7. Could cables be stretched to a MARS orbiting station & used as tracks to reach orbit? 8. If a ship left Mars, traveling 17,500 mph, what is the shortest time it could take to reach Earth? 9. What activity do you look forward to the most when you wake up on the ISS? 10. Will you be training for future missions? 11. What is your favorite food on the space station? 12. How many bits of space junk does NASA track & how can we reduce the problem? 13. Are there earth-bound disabilities that might be irrelevant in space weightlessness? 14. Is there art on the walls of the ISS or do you see examples of the Arts in space? 15. If we found cave art on Mars what do you imagine it would depict? 16. Are there any musical instruments on the ISS? 17. Every discipline can be an art; from the people who sew the stitches on a space suit to a computer programmer, aren't we all artists when we do our best? 18. The theme for SJ 10 is the Arts; should STEM education be changed to STEAM? 19. What music do you listen to on the ISS? 20. What is your favorite form of art? 21. How is the espresso machine working? 22. What fresh foods do you most look forward to on delivery day? 23. When will we first set foot on Mars? 24. When will we go back to the Moon? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, direct via OK2KET The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-08-10 18:56:17 UTC 2. U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-11 15:25:44 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From electricity440 at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 23:51:32 2016 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:51:32 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Colorado Amatuer Satellite Net Message-ID: I will be running the net tonight. All Three Internet systems seem to be working today: AllStar 41694, 41715, 42845, EchoLink AMSAT 101377 and IRLP 9870 Denver Reflector. Local RF 449.625 and 448.975 and on 2-meter simplex by user request through my Blue Mountain Remote Base. The net will be informal and I will be doing net control while Bicycle Mobile if the weather still looks good in a hour. 7PM Mountain Time here in Denver (9PM East Coast, 6PM West Coast) 73 Skyler KD0WHB From tjschuessler at verizon.net Fri Aug 5 03:05:23 2016 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 22:05:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 247 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000b01d1eec6$3615f900$a241eb00$@net> Another W32A issue is that it will not, without modifications, work for transmit on 435 as it is supposedly out of band. I can't use mino for AO-85 Tom Schuessler, N5HYP Message: 8 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 18:17:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob- W7LRD To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-w32A Message-ID: <433446633.51525447.1470248236849.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This is not mine-just pointing it out to anyone looking for a good sat hand held 73 Bob W7LRD http://www.ebay.com/itm/391518060986?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName =STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 5 03:55:38 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 23:55:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 247 In-Reply-To: <000b01d1eec6$3615f900$a241eb00$@net> References: <000b01d1eec6$3615f900$a241eb00$@net> Message-ID: The extended transmit modification seems relatively simple. http://www.hamradio.cc/forum/index.php?t=tree&th=132 That is always a cautionary tale with some older American model 440 FM HTs, though. Some are limited to 440-450. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thursday, August 4, 2016, Tom Schuessler wrote: > Another W32A issue is that it will not, without modifications, work for > transmit on 435 as it is supposedly out of band. I can't use mino for > AO-85 > > Tom Schuessler, N5HYP > > > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 18:17:16 +0000 (UTC) > From: Bob- W7LRD > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-w32A > Message-ID: > <433446633.51525447.1470248236849.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > This is not mine-just pointing it out to anyone looking for a good sat hand > held > 73 Bob W7LRD > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/391518060986?_trksid=p2055359. > m1431.l2649&ssPageName > =STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k8bl at ameritech.net Fri Aug 5 14:51:11 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 14:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FM03/13 References: <811443518.12206124.1470408671423.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <811443518.12206124.1470408671423.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'll be on vacation in Myrtle Beach, SC, with the Familythis week and part of next week. We'll be staying near thefar north end of FM03 and close enough that FM13 wouldbe a short jaunt. I'm intending to put them on the air atleast a few times on FO29 & SO50. (Holiday style) CUL & 73 ?de ? ?Bob ?K8BL From kx9x at yahoo.com Fri Aug 5 16:07:59 2016 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 16:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] PJ6Y QRV SO50 & FO29 today References: <1909684549.9948548.1470413280001.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1909684549.9948548.1470413280001.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all- Just heard from James with the PJ6Y youth group on Saba. They will be on FO29 today at 1705z half-duplex, listening around 870. Also will be on the 1937z SO50 pass.?Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Aug 5 17:11:56 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:11:56 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ NPOTA MN52, tomorrow (6 August) afternoon Message-ID: Hi! I will make a quick trip to Montezuma Castle National Monument, site MN52 for the ARRL's National Parks on the Air activity, tomorrow afternoon (Saturday, 6 August) for a few passes. Montezuma Castle National Monument is along I-17 near Camp Verde, Arizona - between Phoenix and Flagstaff in grid DM44. For this activation, I am focusing on the SO-50 pass at 2132 UTC, followed by an ISS pass at 2207 UTC. If AO-7 remains in mode B during the afternoon, I might try the AO-7 pass at 2112 UTC before SO-50 comes by. Depending on weather and how well I do on these passes, I might stick around for later passes on these satellites, until the monument's closing time at 5pm (0000 UTC). During the mid- to late-afternoon, I should be able to tweet photos and other updates on my activity from Montezuma Castle. My @WD9EWK Twitter feed is public, and - if you don't do Twitter - visible at: http://twitter.com/WD9EWK I will upload my log to Logbook of the World after I return home. I am hoping to work at least 10 different stations, to make this an official activation under the ARRL's NPOTA rules. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri Aug 5 20:46:47 2016 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:46:47 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Operations Message-ID: Hi All, Just to confirm that FUNcube-1 is now operating in continuous amateur mode with the transponder active for the weekend. 73 Graham G3VZV From k.alexander at rogers.com Fri Aug 5 23:18:21 2016 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:18:21 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FN05/06 Activation This Weekend Message-ID: <264c05cd-8008-7e71-a470-2e9f7d986022@rogers.com> Hi All, I've made plans to travel to FN05 and FN06 tomorrow (Aug 6) and Sunday (Aug 7). Schedule is as follows: *Saturday UTC* ---------------------------------------------------------- Day Objects AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl AZ ---------------------------------------------------------- * 06.08.2016 SO-50 18:11 18:23 12 48 329 - 131* 06.08.2016 AO-85 18:40 18:50 10 10 284 - 025 *06.08.2016 SO-50 19:52 20:03 11 21 309 - 181* 06.08.2016 AO-85 20:25 20:32 07 05 327 - 041 06.08.2016 AO-85 22:07 22:16 09 10 339 - 080 *06.08.2016 AO-85 23:47 23:59 12 41 330 - 129* *Sunday UTC* ---------------------------------------------------------- Day Objects AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl AZ ---------------------------------------------------------- *07.08.2016 AO-85 01:28 01:38 10 21 312 - 182* 07.08.2016 SO-50 08:28 08:38 10 11 154 - 053 *07.08.2016 SO-50 10:06 10:19 13 81 211 - 036** ** 07.08.2016 SO-50 11:48 11:59 11 19 262 - 027* 07.08.2016 SO-50 13:32 13:40 08 06 308 - 032 07.08.2016 AO-85 14:04 14:14 10 11 152 - 054 07.08.2016 SO-50 15:15 15:23 08 06 333 - 057 *07.08.2016 AO-85 15:42 15:56 14 75 209 - 036* I plan to be on for the passes shown above in Bold text, and won't rule out the others. I don't yet know where I will be for any given pass. Most likely the fist 1 or 2 passes on Saturday and the last pass on Sunday will be from FN05 and the others will be from FN06. *About the AO-85 passes**:* My HT's output isn't sufficient to get into the satellite reliably. Instead, I will be bringing my KX3 + 70cm transverter and try operating semi-duplex. I'm not sure if the KX3 will operate cross-band split. If not then I'll leave it at home and try harder to hit more of the SO-50 passes on Sunday. Let's have some fun! 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS From smedbury at windstream.net Fri Aug 5 23:49:15 2016 From: smedbury at windstream.net (Scott Medbury) Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:49:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Old QSOs on UO-14, AO-27 & SO-35, and other FM birds Message-ID: <20160805234928.D1888910D@lansing182.amsat.org> I have begun uploading paper logs from 2000 to 2013 in LoTW. If I have worked you in the past and want to skip ahead for awards or other reasons, please let me know by sending an Adi file that I can check. There are a number of fairly rare grids in the mix all over the US, Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean Sea. 73 ... Scott KD5FBA Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID From n4ufo at yahoo.com Sat Aug 6 10:00:59 2016 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 10:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators References: <19121280.12063614.1470477659399.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19121280.12063614.1470477659399.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Just a few quotes from Mr Laws... (from this thread only... if I cared, I could find plenty more) "is only supported half-heartedly by AMSAT itself.""sadly, AMSAT doesn't have a standard""I'd harangue my Division Director""I've not paid enough attention to AMSAT in the past to know how to do that here and I've only been a member since Dayton.""I've offered in the past to help clean up crufty old stuff on the site before and I make the same offer again. At the very least, the cruft needs to be marked as cruft with links to current documentation." Let me clue you in a bit, sir... read what you've said and you might just get an idea as to why no one has taken you up on your offer. Hint: AMSAT is not a monolithic entity... it's a collection of hams with long standing experience and traditions that existed a very long time before this year's Dayton. Hams that likely don't always agree and even more likely do not take kindly to BEING 'harangued' and sniped at as you have been doing the last couple months. Perhaps it would be wise to sit back for once and get the lay of the land before you try to come in, take over and completely change something that you self admittedly have 'not paid attention' to. Simply put... chill, dude... you are not winning friends and influencing people here the way you are going on. And maybe that's why no one has taken you up on your 'offer'. ?------------------------------------------------------------------"Control is the need of the fearful mind. Trust is the need of the courageous heart." From AJ9N at aol.com Sat Aug 6 15:22:59 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 11:22:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS contact Space Jam 2016 being streamed now Message-ID: The ARISS contact with Space Jam 2016 is now being streamed from IK1SLD. http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php 73, Charlie From py2rn at arrl.net Sat Aug 6 17:17:38 2016 From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 17:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Brazil - South Africa via AO-7 References: <176443693.12830130.1470503858955.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <176443693.12830130.1470503858955.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Bruce,? ZS6BK for our QSO now at 17:05UTC via AO-7. ?? For a long time I was expecting a qso opportunity with ZS / East Coast Africa via LEO sat. 73 Ed PY2RN. From py2rn at arrl.net Sat Aug 6 17:22:03 2016 From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 17:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Brazil - South Africa via AO-7 In-Reply-To: <176443693.12830130.1470503858955.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <176443693.12830130.1470503858955.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <176443693.12830130.1470503858955.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1684452090.12573316.1470504123642.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Ops... correcting, it was ZS2BK Andre! Sorry for the confusion. Ed PY2RN From: Eduardo PY2RN To: AMSAT BB Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 2:17 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Brazil - South Africa via AO-7 Thanks Bruce,? ZS6BK for our QSO now at 17:05UTC via AO-7. ?? For a long time I was expecting a qso opportunity with ZS / East Coast Africa via LEO sat. 73 Ed PY2RN. _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From AJ9N at aol.com Sat Aug 6 20:06:12 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 16:06:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-06 20:00 UTC Message-ID: <17d517.d585767.44d79d33@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-06 20:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Space Jam 10, Rantoul IL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact was successful: Sat 2016-08-06 15:59:03 UTC 32 deg (***) Congratulations to Kate as this was her first ARISS contact! (***) OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, direct via OK2KET The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-08-10 18:56:17 UTC 90 deg U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-11 15:25:44 UTC 66 deg **************************************************************************** ** Citing health issues, long time Australian ARISS ambassador, co-ordinator, mentor, and telebridge operator Tony Hutchison VK5ZAI has elected to step down at the end of August. Tony has been an outstanding ARISS mentor and telebridge operator from the SAREX days right up to what is now ARISS. Tony has mentored 56 ARISS schools and has been the ARISS telebridge station for 51 contacts. Shane Lynd VK4KHZ will be taking over Tony's duties in September. Shane has so far been the telebridge operator for 36 contacts. (***) Thanks Tony!! **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 120 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-06 20:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1076. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1041. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-06 20:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 02:20:42 2016 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 22:20:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-220 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-220 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Wouter Weggelaar PA3WEG Awarded Louis Varney Cup * Amateur Radio Presentations at EMF 2016 Guildford * AMSAT-UK Space Colloquium Videos Now Available * Dayton Hamvention Moving to Greene County Fairgrounds in Xenia * LoTW adds UKube-1 Support * Skyler Fennell, KD0WHB, is 2016 Young Ham of the Year * NASA?s CubeSat Launch Initiative Opens Space to Educators, Nonprofits * Sign Up for New NASA Education 'Science WOW!' Weekly Email Newsletter * AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots in the Mail * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-220.01 ANS-220 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 220.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. August 7, 2016 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-220.01 Wouter Weggelaar PA3WEG Awarded Louis Varney Cup On July 31 at the AMSAT-UK International Space colloquium in Guildford the RSGB Board Chair Steve Hartley G0FUW presented the RSGB Louis Varney Cup for Advances in Space Communications to Wouter Weggelaar PA3WEG. The award was in recognition of Wouter?s outstanding technical contributions to several amateur satellites and associated outreach. The presentation can be viewed here: https://youtu.be/8GpewVRTKXQ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Amateur Radio Presentations at EMF 2016 Guildford Many radio amateurs are giving presentations at the Electromagnetic Field EMF 2016 event taking place near Guildford August 5-7 and two special event stations will be operating from the site. It is hoped the presentations may be streamed live on the web. The event is aimed at makers, scientists, engineers and radio enthusiasts. Most radio amateurs will be in two villages on the site, HABville and the Amateur Radio Village. The London Hackspace Amateur Radio Club are planning to erect at least one of their Clark masts in the amateur radio village. London Hackspace will be showcasing Amateur Radio on bands from 3.5 MHz (80m) to 430 MHz (70cm) and maybe higher using the call sign GB4EMF. RSGB Youth Committee member Rebecca M6BUB will be at the GB8EMF station which will be using three ICOM transceivers, two IC-706MKIIG and an IC-746. At 1559 GMT (4:59pm BST) on Saturday, August 6 the International Space Station (ISS) astronaut Kate Rubins KG5FYJ should be receivable at the event on a handheld radio tuned to 145.800 MHz FM. Full details at http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2016/july/ariss-event- 0608.htm The amateur radio satellite talks being given over the weekend are: ? A hacker?s guide to satellites ? Dave Rowntree 2E0DRV (drummer in rock-band Blur) ? Receiving live video from the Space Station ? Daniel Cussen EI9FHB HamTV ? The story behind $50SAT, a new approach to Amateur satellite design which became the world?s smallest operational satellite, built for ?125 in a garden shed ? Stuart Robinson GW7HPW Other presentations by radio amateurs include: ? 100 years of Shannon ? the man, his work and his legacy ? Matthew Ireland MW0MIE ? Asynchronous or Analogue Methods for Computation ? Matthew Ireland MW0MIE ? Connecting computers together over 1,000s miles without using the Internet ? GB8EMF Amateur Radio Station ? Hacking Robot Dinosaurs ? Dr Lucy Rogers M6CME (Judge on BBC Robot Wars) ? My Ubertooth Year ? Michael Ossmann AD0NR developer of HackRF One SDR ? Numbers Stations: Cold War, short waves ? Henry Cooke ? Rebooting a Hobby: How Modern Digital Comms are Reviving Amateur Radio ? Ryan Sayre M0RYS Electromagnetic Field EMF 2016 https://twitter.com/emfcamp https://www.emfcamp.org/schedule https://www.emfcamp.org/line-up/2016 EMF HABville https://wiki.emfcamp.org/wiki/Village:HABville EMF Amateur Radio Village https://wiki.emfcamp.org/wiki/Village:Amateur_Radio London Hackspace ARC https://twitter.com/m0hsl https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Group:Amateur_Radio Previous EMF events have generated BBC News coverage https://amsat-uk.org/2014/09/02/bbc-reports-emf-2014/ What is Amateur Radio? http://www.essexham.co.uk/what-is-amateur-radio Find a short Amateur Radio training course near you at https://thersgb.org/services/coursefinder/ The book Getting Started with Amateur Satellites 2016 is available from the AMSAT-UK online shop http://tinyurl.com/ANS220-GettingStartedUK [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-UK Space Colloquium Videos Now Available Thanks to the hard work of British Amateur Television Club (BATC) and AMSAT-UK volunteers the videos of the presentations given to the AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium held in Guildford on July 30- 31, 2016 are now available on YouTube. During the Colloquium AMSAT-UK operated a satellite ground station using the call sign G0AUK. Contacts were made via the SO-50, AO-85 and FO-29 satellites. The ground station used the Kenwood TS-2000X transceiver that was successfully used for all the UK school contacts with astronaut Tim Peake GB1SS during his Principia mission on the International Space Station. The TS-2000X was kindly loaned by Martin Lynch & Sons Ltd and Kenwood Communications UK. The 2016 Colloquium presentations along with those from previous years can be found on the AMSAT-UK YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/user/AMSATUK/playlists The videos of the presentations can either be watched online or downloaded to your PC using readily available free YouTube download software for showing at club meetings. AMSAT-UK publish a quarterly newsletter OSCAR News, a sample issue can be downloaded here. Electronic (PDF) membership is ?15 a year ? https://amsat-uk.org/new-members/join-now/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dayton Hamvention Moving to Greene County Fairgrounds in Xenia Hamvention? announced today that it will be moving to the Greene County Fairgrounds and Event Center in Xenia, Ohio, after 52 years at Hara Arena. That?s about 16 miles east of Dayton center off US Route 35 (see map). Hara Arena announced last week that it would be closing, and Hamvention indicated that it soon would be announcing its back-up plan for a new venue in the Dayton area. ?We appreciate and value all the time and effort of the many partners, in particular the Greene County Agricultural Society, the Greene County Board of Commissioners and the Greene County Convention & Visitors Bureau has put into helping Hamvention find the right venue to continue our long history here in the Miami Valley,? Hamvention General Chair Ron Cramer, KD8ENJ, said. ?We look forward to a long and mutually prosperous relationship.? Last week, after Hara Arena announced it would close, Cramer had said, ?We have spent many hours over the last few years evaluating possible locations and have found one in the area we believe will be a great new home! We all believe this new venue will be a spectacular place to hold our beloved event. Please rest assured we will have the event on the same weekend and, since it will be in the region, the current accommodations and outside events already planned for Hamvention 2017 should not be affected.? Hamvention chief spokesman and board member Mike Kalter, W8CI, told ARRL today that announcement of the new venue came a bit sooner than he?d anticipated last week. He pointed out that the event annually attracts in excess of 25,000 visitors from every US state and some 60 countries around the world. ?The key thing is that we plan to have a 5-star event,? he said of Hamvention 2017. ?We?ll put a lot of time and energy into it.? The move to Xenia could prove to be a huge financial bonanza for the city and Greene County. Hamvention typically has meant millions of dollars to the Dayton/Montgomery County area, and some of that benefit now could migrate eastward down US 35. Kalter conceded that the new venue in Greene County is a slightly longer drive from Dayton City Center -- where some Hamvention-related events traditionally occur -- than it was to Hara Arena, but he believes it will be worth the trip. ?Montgomery County didn?t have anything for us,? he said. ?We looked exhaustively. We?ve known this is what we?d do for about a month ? if Hara Arena would no longer be available.? And the flea market at the new site? ?Our plan is to have a much better flea market,? Kalter said. ?We have two or three different options, but we think people are really going to like it.? He said the entire fairgrounds facility was rebuilt several years ago after it was destroyed by a tornado, so the buildings are newer than Hara, which was built in the 1950s. He said there will be opportunities to bring in campers ? with 30 A service, water, and sewer available. Kalter believes the change in venue in and of itself will be a big incentive for a lot of people who may be just thinking about attending Hamvention 2017 right now. ?We expect next year to be a big year,? he said. ?We expect a lot of people to come to see what it?s like.? [ANS thanks ARRL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- LoTW adds UKube-1 Support The ARRL has informed Paul, N8HM that TQSL configuration file version 9.3 will be released shortly adding support for UKube-1 in LoTW. Please note that due to character limitations, the satellite name for LoTW will be "UKUBE1" Clayton W5PFG followed up saying "Simply launching the TQSL application should inform you that a new configuration file is available. I've updated my log and uploaded all of my UKube-1 contacts with the new SAT_NAME parameter UKUBE1." [ANS thanks the ARRL, Paul N8HM, and Clayton W5PFG for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Skyler Fennell, KD0WHB, is 2016 Young Ham of the Year Skyler Fennell KD0WHB, of Denver, CO, has been selected as the 2016 Bill Pasternak WA6ITF Memorial Young Ham of the Year by the Amateur Radio Newsline. Skyler's interest in satellite communications resulted in a revival of Colorado Amateur Satellite Net where he became a net control operator and created a website for the net: https://amsatnet.info/ Skyler, 17, is the son of Karl and Carol Fennell, and recently graduated with honors from Denver School of the Arts. Skyler was first licensed in July 2013 as a Technician and upgraded to General by September 2013. He took and passed his Extra class license exam in January 2014. Skyler's interest in basic electronics was sparked when he was in the fourth grade and continued into middle school and high school. Among his early building projects were a laser spirograph, audio amplifiers, and high voltage transformer drivers. A high school friend, Jordan Walters, KD0MLV, introduced Skyler to amateur radio when he was a freshman in high school , explaining how radio transmissions could bounce off layers of the atmosphere. That led Skyler to engage in a six-month period of study, testing and operating that resulted in his path to Extra. Skyler has extensive experience in designing and working on repeater systems and introduced an AllStar Link system for one of the Rocky Mountain Radio League's repeaters. He began working with the AB0BX STEM School Amateur Radio Club in nearby Littleton, CO and got involved in the group's Edge of Space Sciences missions (balloon launches with amateur equipment). He became project manager for its 440Mhz repeater and helped put together an AllStar and EchoLink repeater for students, serving as a mentor for construction of the project. Skyler started the Denver School of the Arts amateur radio club in August 2015 and was trustee of the club call - KE0FXH. Skyler has chronicled several of his amateur radio and technical achievements on his YouTube channel - "Skyler F." He was also involved in proposing and assisting in the construction of a VHF/UHF repeater at a remote base site on Blue Mountain in the Denver area and added an AllStar link to the system. This past May, Skyler spoke at the Youth Forum at the Dayton Hamvention on the topic: "Homebrewing on a Budget." He also addressed the Quarter Century Wireless Association forum in Dayton about how his technical interests will help him further his educational and career goals. Skyler is an Eagle Scout, a rank he achieved at the age of 13. He also combined his interest in cycling and amateur radio, assembling a bicycling mobile set-up with VHF and UHF radios. He is also an accomplished pianist and earned the first-place trophy in the recent U.S. International Duo Piano competition in Colorado Springs this past February after performing a Poulenic piano sonata for four hands, two pianos. Skyler will be recognized during the Huntsville Hamfest on Aug. 20 in the Von Braun Civic Center, Huntsville, AL. The Young Ham of the Year award was inaugurated by William Pasternak, WA6ITF, in 1986. Upon his passing in 2015, Bill's name was added to the award as a memorial to his commitment to recognizing the accomplishments of young people to the amateur radio service. In addition to Amateur Radio Newsline, CQ Magazine and Yaesu USA are primary sponsors, along with Heil Sound Ltd. and Radiowavz Antenna Company. Skyler will be receiving a gift of amateur radio gear from Yaesu and a complimentary week at Space Camp, Huntsville, provided by CQ. [ANS thanks Amateur Radio Newsline and CQ Communications, Inc. for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- NASA?s CubeSat Launch Initiative Opens Space to Educators, Nonprofits Accredited education institutions, nonprofit organizations and NASA centers can join the adventure and challenges of space while helping the agency achieve its exploration goals through the next round of the agency?s CubeSat Launch Initiative (CSLI). Applicants must submit proposals by 4:30 p.m. EST, Nov. 22. The CSLI provides CubeSat developers with a low-cost pathway to space to conduct research that advances NASA's strategic goals in the areas of science, exploration, technology development, education and operations. The initiative provides students, teachers and faculty with the chance to get hands-on flight hardware development experience designing, building and operating these small research satellites. NASA will make selections by Feb. 17, 2017, but selection does not guarantee a launch opportunity. Selected experiments will be considered as auxiliary payloads on agency launches or for deployment from the International Space Station beginning in 2017 through 2020. If chosen, U.S. nonpro?t and accredited educational organizations are entirely responsible for funding the development of the small satellites. To date, NASA has selected 119 CubeSat missions, 46 of which have been launched into space. NASA has offered a launch opportunity to 95 percent of those selected through previous announcements, with 29 scheduled for launch within the next 12 months. The selected CubeSats represent participants from 32 states, demonstrating the significant progress NASA has made on a remarkable goal established during the 2015 White House Maker Faire, to launch a small satellite from at least one participant in every state during the next five years. For this round of the initiative, NASA is particularly interested in participation from organizations in the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and 18 states not previously selected. These states are: Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Washington and Wyoming. CubeSats are in a class of research spacecraft called nanosatellites. Base CubeSat dimensions are about 4-by-4-by-4 inches (10-by-10-by-11 centimeters), which equals one Cube, or 1U. CubeSats supported by this launch effort include volumes of 1U, 2U, 3U and 6U. CubeSats of 1U, 2U and 3U size typically have a mass of about three pounds (1.33 kilograms) per 1U Cube. A 6U CubeSat typically has a mass of about 26.5 pounds (12 to 14 kilograms). The CubeSat's final mass depends on the selected deployment method. Small satellites, including CubeSats, play a valuable role in the agency?s exploration, science, technology and educational investigations. These miniature satellites provide a low-cost platform for NASA science missions, including planetary exploration, Earth observation, and fundamental Earth and space science. They are a cornerstone in the development of cutting-edge NASA technologies like laser communications, satellite-to-satellite communications and autonomous movement. NASA also is using small satellites to demonstrate and validate the vehicles, systems and protections humans need to live and work in space and on other worlds. They are an inexpensive means to engage students in all phases of satellite development, operation and exploitation through real-world, hands-on research and development experience on NASA-funded rideshare launch opportunities. For additional information about NASA's CubeSat Launch Initiative, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/directorates/heo/home/CubeSats_initiative To explore images from our previous launches, follow us on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/145538433 at N02/ Find us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nasa_cubesat/ [ANS thanks NASA News Release for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for New NASA Education 'Science WOW!' Weekly Email Newsletter Are you a science educator or interested in science education? Sign up for the NASA Education "Science WOW!" mailing list. Receive an email with NASA's latest science education offerings delivered "Weekly on Wednesdays." Science starts with a question, and so does "Science WOW!" Each week's message kicks off with a science question and a link to where you can find the answer. "Science WOW!" also highlights an awesome science education tool each week. These featured resources will include NASA apps, interactive games, 3-D printing templates and more! Plus, "Science WOW!" delivers -- right to your inbox -- the latest science education opportunities offered by NASA. It's a simple way to keep up with the latest professional development webinars, student contests, workshops, lectures and other activities. The first "Science WOW!" message is scheduled to be sent on Aug. 10, 2016. To register your email address and be added to the list, visit https://www.nasa.gov/education/sciencewow/. [ANS thanks NASA Education Express Message -- Aug. 4, 2016 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots in the Mail Ballots have been mailed to AMSAT-NA members in good standing, and must be returned to the AMSAT-NA office by September 15, 2016 in order to be counted. Those sent outside North America were sent by air mail. If you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for your QTH, please contact the AMSAT-NA office. Your completed ballot should be sent as promptly as possible, and those from outside North American preferably by air mail or other expedited means. This year there are five candidates: Tom Clark, K3IO Clayton Coleman, W5PFG Mark Hammond, N8MH Bruce Paige, KK5DO Paul Stoetzer, N8HM The three candidates receiving the highest number of votes will be seated as voting Board Members with two year terms. The two candidates receiving the next highest number of votes will be non- voting Alternate Board Members with terms of one year. Please vote for no more than three candidates. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the Board. Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT-NA. [ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News + A Successful contact was made between Sacred Heart Primary School, New Taipei City, Taiwan and Astronaut Takuya Onishi KF5LKS using Callsign OR4ISS. The contact began Tue 2016-08-02 08:36:03 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was direct via BN?SH. ARISS Mentor was Satoshi 7M3TJZ. + A Successful contact was made between Space Jam 10, Rantoul IL, USA and Astronaut Kate Rubins KG5FYJ using Callsign OR4ISS. The contact began Sat 2016-08-06 15:59:03 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was Telebridged via IK1SLD. ARISS Mentor was Charlie AJ9N. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-04 06:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, direct via OK2KET The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-08-10 18:56:17 U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-11 15:25:44 U.S. Space & Rocket Center Information: Since 1982, Space Camp? at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama has been inspiring people of all ages about space science, space flight, and space exploration. Among the 750,000 Space Camp graduates worldwide are five astronaut alumnae, including Dr. Kate Rubins, slated to launch on expedition 48/49 to the ISS this summer. Her presence on the space station provides an incredible opportunity for young people currently attending Space Camp to be able to talk to someone who was once in their shoes who went on to become an astronaut. It is also very likely that international students will be taking part in Space Camp during the link. These students will have a unique opportunity while visiting the United States to take part in an active exchange with the largest multi- national laboratory on-or off-the planet! In addition to Space Camp trainees, museum guests will have the opportunity to take part in the activity. As the original NASA visitor center, the U.S. Space & Rocket Center has been telling NASA's story since 1970. And with over 650,000 visitors annually, the Space and Rocket Center is Alabama's top tourism attraction. And depending on when the event falls in the summer, the USSRC may also bring in educators attending Space Academy for Educators, an immersive professional development program conducted throughout the summer months annually. In short, the USSRC hope to maximize both camp and museum guest participation to promote the scientific activities taking place on the ISS, as well as highlight the technology that allows such an exchange to take place. Expected Questions: 1. What was your favorite subject in school? 2. What was your toughest subject in school? 3. Who were your heroes growing up? 4. What is something you learned at Space Camp you are using in space? 5. What advice would you give a student who wants to become an astronaut? 6. What advice would you give to someone at Space Camp this week? 7. Were you afraid when your rocket launched? 8. What was the hardest thing in astronaut training? 9. How often do you talk to your family? 10. Do you speak Russian with the Russian cosmonauts? 11. What does it smell like on the ISS? 12. What is the coolest thing that you have seen in space? 13. What is your favorite food to eat in space? 14. What medical research are you working on while you're on the Space Station? 15. What other cool research projects are you helping with? 16. As a researcher, do you think NASA's biological space research will one day lead to a cure for diseases like HIV or cancer? 17. Do you work with research projects from other countries? 18. What do you think is the biggest effect on an astronaut's body from long-term spaceflight? 19. How will research on the Space Station help us get ready to go to Mars? ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS The next ARISS Application Window will begin September 1, 2016 and run through November 1, 2016. Be alert for the official announcement which will be released the second half of August. The announcement will include links to the updated Application Guide as well as the application form and other information pertinent to the application process. Look for the announcement here in the AMSAT News Service Bulletin, via the AMSAT-BB, via the ARRL and several other news venues. [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + ISS R&D Presentations ISS Contact and Booth Photos If you weren't able to attend the ISS Research & Development Conference last month, or watch the live webcast, use this link to access all the videos, presentations and photos: http://www.issconference.org/resources.php [ANS thanks the American Astronautical Society and the ISS R&D Confrence for the above information] + Want to learn more about Rocket and Space Technology? Visit Robert A. Braeunig's Rocket and Space technology site at http://www.braeunig.us/space/index_top.htm [ANS thanks C. Robert Welti, PhD. for the above information] + SUPPORT AMSAT-NA AMSAT Store http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ JOIN AMSAT http://store.amsat.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=32 AMSAT's President's Club Donation http://store.amsat.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=34 Make a General Donation http://store.amsat.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=35 Support the FOX Satellites http://tinyurl.com/ANS220-SupportFox Support ARISS http://tinyurl.com/ANS220-SupportARISS --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM aa8em at amsat dot org From rgoldham at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 7 02:45:40 2016 From: rgoldham at sbcglobal.net (Ronald Oldham) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 02:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] N8RO Portable Operations References: <1489120662.403251.1470537940024.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1489120662.403251.1470537940024.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> We will start a road trip on Thursday Aug 11. The trip will head north to OK, KS, NE, SD, ND and SK. We will then head west on the Trans Canadian Highway to AB & BC. From BC we will go to WA, MT, WY, CO and then work our way home to TX on Friday August 26. While the trip is primarily a vacation, I will attempt to make satellite contacts, hopefully one or two a day, on XW-2C, AO-85, SO-50 and FO-29 along the way. Possible grid activations include: EM03/04, EN00/01, EN04/05, DN88/89, DO50/60, DO11/21, CO90, CN99, CN78/88, CN97/96, DN36/37, DN75/76, DN71 and DM95. I hope to contact many of you during this trip. 73, Ron ? N8RO From va6bmj at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 04:27:44 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 04:27:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] N8RO Portable Operations In-Reply-To: <1489120662.403251.1470537940024.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1489120662.403251.1470537940024.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1489120662.403251.1470537940024.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8/7/16, Ronald Oldham wrote: > We will start a road trip on Thursday Aug 11. The trip will head north to > OK, KS, NE, SD, ND and SK. We will then head west on the Trans Canadian > Highway to AB & BC. From BC we will go to WA, MT, WY, CO and then work our > way home to TX on Friday August 26. While the trip is primarily a vacation, > I will attempt to make satellite contacts, hopefully one or two a day, on > XW-2C, AO-85, SO-50 and FO-29 along the way. Possible grid activations > include: EM03/04, EN00/01, EN04/05, DN88/89, DO50/60, DO11/21, CO90, CN99, > CN78/88, CN97/96, DN36/37, DN75/76, DN71 and DM95. I hope to contact many of > you during this trip. I'm usually on FO-29 during the local afternoon, which would be after 1900 UTC. There are lots of grid squares in southern Alberta and B. C. that I haven't worked yet. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From peter.guelzow at kourou.de Sun Aug 7 20:24:18 2016 From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (Peter Guelzow) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 22:24:18 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail-2 re-scheduled for launch in Q3/2017 Message-ID: We have been informed by Es'hailSat Qatar Satellite company, that the launch of Es'hail-2 with the first P4-A geostationary amateur radio transponder is shifted to Q3/2017. The announcement is available on the corporate Es'hailSat website at https://www.eshailsat.qa/en/satellites/index/ 73s Peter, DB2OS From lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com Sun Aug 7 21:24:32 2016 From: lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com (Lee Ernstrom) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 15:24:32 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] DO44 Message-ID: <48A7437F-0AD8-4004-B799-893E54C28087@rcwilley.com> Today on the 2013 UTC pass of SO-50 I heard VE6CMV in DO44. When I tried calling him I quickly learned that my Alinco hand held had a dead battery. Hopefully he will be around on the next SO-50 pass. WA7HQD, Doc Sent from my iPad From Saguaroastro at cox.net Sun Aug 7 21:59:16 2016 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 14:59:16 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] DO44 Message-ID: Been there, done that. Pretty sure it's not an exclusive club. Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On August 7, 2016, at 14:24, Lee Ernstrom wrote: Today on the 2013 UTC pass of SO-50 I heard VE6CMV in DO44. When I tried calling him I quickly learned that my Alinco hand held had a dead battery. Hopefully he will be around on the next SO-50 pass. WA7HQD, Doc Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g.shirville at btinternet.com Sun Aug 7 22:05:32 2016 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 23:05:32 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 mode Message-ID: Hi All, FUNcube-1 is now (22:04 UTC) back in autonomous mode...high power tlm is active when in sunlight and transponder with low power tlm when in eclipse. 73 Graham G3VZV From wd4elg at triad.rr.com Sun Aug 7 23:28:43 2016 From: wd4elg at triad.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 19:28:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 questions Message-ID: <186201d1f103$700b26f0$502174d0$@rr.com> 2315Z pass. I could see someone in the passband, but it showed as 6 traces rather than one. Does that mean the transponder was overdriven with PSK? I attempted to see if I could get through and at least see my downlink, but no luck. I figured even without the Doppler-compensated software, I should see my signal..30 watts to an off-center-fed dipole at 56 feet. Thoughts/suggestions welcome. Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com From Mvivona at yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 00:07:59 2016 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 20:07:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 questions In-Reply-To: <186201d1f103$700b26f0$502174d0$@rr.com> References: <186201d1f103$700b26f0$502174d0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <411A9950-93FC-4D78-AA45-242E9C0C067F@yahoo.com> Just curious. Doesn't the ionosphere have an attenuation on 10 meters? Michael KC4ZVA On Aug 7, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: 2315Z pass. I could see someone in the passband, but it showed as 6 traces rather than one. Does that mean the transponder was overdriven with PSK? I attempted to see if I could get through and at least see my downlink, but no luck. I figured even without the Doppler-compensated software, I should see my signal..30 watts to an off-center-fed dipole at 56 feet. Thoughts/suggestions welcome. Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From my.callsign at verizon.net Mon Aug 8 00:39:54 2016 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:39:54 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 questions In-Reply-To: <186201d1f103$700b26f0$502174d0$@rr.com> References: <186201d1f103$700b26f0$502174d0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Mark, I was not on NO-84 today, but there may have been a 10 m north/south band opening. I do not think only 30w will turn on the FM transmitter from North America. During good band openings, I have seen LU and PY stations turn on the satellite. If what you saw were terrestrial stations, the traces should have been skewed, probably at different rates. I use NO-84 regularly, it takes 80-100 watts into a 1/2 wave vertical to keep the FM transmitter turned on. The downlink signal is strong and EZ copy, but however, when noise is high on 10 meters, it re-transmits this noise onto the FM downlink, making for hard copy. BOB KO6TZ 2315Z pass. I could see someone in the passband, but it showed as 6 traces rather than one. Does that mean the transponder was overdriven with PSK? I attempted to see if I could get through and at least see my downlink, but no luck. I figured even without the Doppler-compensated software, I should see my signal..30 watts to an off-center-fed dipole at 56 feet. Thoughts/suggestions welcome. Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com From nss at mwt.net Mon Aug 8 00:55:59 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 19:55:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 questions In-Reply-To: <411A9950-93FC-4D78-AA45-242E9C0C067F@yahoo.com> References: <186201d1f103$700b26f0$502174d0$@rr.com> <411A9950-93FC-4D78-AA45-242E9C0C067F@yahoo.com> Message-ID: if it did then Oscar 7 and similar would not have worked, how about the Russian birds too 15 and 10 meters. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/7/2016 7:07 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Just curious. Doesn't the ionosphere have an attenuation on 10 meters? > > Michael KC4ZVA > > > On Aug 7, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: > > 2315Z pass. > > I could see someone in the passband, but it showed as 6 traces rather than > one. Does that mean the transponder was overdriven with PSK? > > I attempted to see if I could get through and at least see my downlink, but > no luck. I figured even without the Doppler-compensated software, I should > see my signal..30 watts to an off-center-fed dipole at 56 feet. > > Thoughts/suggestions welcome. > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > Greensboro, NC FM06be > wd4elg at arrl.net > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 8 01:05:04 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 21:05:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 questions In-Reply-To: References: <186201d1f103$700b26f0$502174d0$@rr.com> <411A9950-93FC-4D78-AA45-242E9C0C067F@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Those satellites all had resonant 10 meter antennas (as the downlink). Even so, attenuation when the band is open is easily noticeable. NO-84 has a non-resonant whip for the uplink. It's 72" long. A full-size 1/4 wave monopole would be 99.8". That presents an additional challenge requiring higher uplink power (WB4APR recommends 75 watts to a 1/4 wave vertical, about 3 times what was suggested at launch). 73, Paul, N8HM On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Joe wrote: > if it did then Oscar 7 and similar would not have worked, how about the > Russian birds too 15 and 10 meters. > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > > On 8/7/2016 7:07 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB wrote: >> >> Just curious. Doesn't the ionosphere have an attenuation on 10 meters? >> >> Michael KC4ZVA >> >> >> On Aug 7, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: >> >> 2315Z pass. >> >> I could see someone in the passband, but it showed as 6 traces rather than >> one. Does that mean the transponder was overdriven with PSK? >> >> I attempted to see if I could get through and at least see my downlink, >> but >> no luck. I figured even without the Doppler-compensated software, I >> should >> see my signal..30 watts to an off-center-fed dipole at 56 feet. >> >> Thoughts/suggestions welcome. >> >> Mark Lunday, WD4ELG >> Greensboro, NC FM06be >> wd4elg at arrl.net >> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ea4gqs at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 10:39:08 2016 From: ea4gqs at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?F=C3=A9lix_P=C3=A1ez?=) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:39:08 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ceuta & Melilla and grid IM76 in FM Sats 12th-16h August Message-ID: <57a8614c.6211c20a.475ef.f147@mx.google.com> Hi Friends, As promised I will act?vate the autonomous city of Ceuta (DXCC entity Ceuta & Melilla) between days 12th-16th. I don?t know how many passes I will be able to work. Most of the time I will be in Algeciras city (gid IM76) that I will also activate. It is a family trip so I don?t have all the free time I would like. Anyway most probable passes will be on Friday / Saturday / Sunday. Callsign will be EA9/EA4GQS. Activations from grid IM76 will be worked as EA4GQS/P Thanks and I hope I can give you the entity! Felix ? EA4GQS From ve6cmv at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 17:57:12 2016 From: ve6cmv at gmail.com (Chris Vernon) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 11:57:12 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] DO44 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will be active on SO50 19.55utc pass Chris VE6CMV DO44 Cold Lake Alberta. From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Aug 8 20:05:47 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:05:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulating UHF Retro Reflector at RF? Message-ID: At the SMALLSAT conference there are always presentations on modulating optical retroreflectors so very low power passive pspacecraft can still communicate telemetry by simply modulating the mirror of a laser reflector. Can we do this at RF? Unfortunately the 218 MHz megawatt radar fence in Texas is now shut down... But, now with the amateur radio announcement of the return of the HAARP ionosphere transmitters in Alaska, there too is another high power CW system. But it is at HF. http://www.arrl.org/news/haarp-facility-to-reopen-in-2017-under-new-ownership So what other HUGE power continuous RF emitters are there that transmits straight up that could be used by a passivle ON/OFF modulation of a resonant dipole in space to convey a few bits of data from a piece of wire in space? I assume this is a 1/R^4 range equation. If I do the numbers right, a passive dipole only 200 miles up with a 10 megawatts ERP transmitter at 300 MHz could be detected by a good low noise CW receiver using a 15 dBi receive antenna at -128 dBm in a CW bandwidth? How many dB can this be improved with DSP processing? Its just a mind game. A small matchbox size satellite with dipole antenna could at least report a few bits of data per pass over the radar beam? I think the Airforce is re-building the radar fence but at S band. At that frequency some gain can be added with multi passive dipoles on a cubesat size satellite gravity gradient stabilized to keep it pointed down. If it could be made to work, what could we do with it? Just thinking... Bob, WB4APR From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 20:42:07 2016 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 13:42:07 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulating UHF Retro Reflector at RF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57A8EE9F.1080305@gmail.com> Woah. Are you basically suggesting an "RFID thing" at orbital distances? How many bits could you transmit during the brief transit through the fence? RFID is a pretty low data rate scheme, no? Greg KO6TH Robert Bruninga wrote: > At the SMALLSAT conference there are always presentations on modulating > optical retroreflectors so very low power passive pspacecraft can still > communicate telemetry by simply modulating the mirror of a laser reflector. > > Can we do this at RF? Unfortunately the 218 MHz megawatt radar fence in > Texas is now shut down... But, now with the amateur radio announcement of > the return of the HAARP ionosphere transmitters in Alaska, there too is > another high power CW system. But it is at HF. > http://www.arrl.org/news/haarp-facility-to-reopen-in-2017-under-new-ownership > > So what other HUGE power continuous RF emitters are there that transmits > straight up that could be used by a passivle ON/OFF modulation of a > resonant dipole in space to convey a few bits of data from a piece of wire > in space? > > I assume this is a 1/R^4 range equation. If I do the numbers right, a > passive dipole only 200 miles up with a 10 megawatts ERP transmitter at 300 > MHz could be detected by a good low noise CW receiver using a 15 dBi > receive antenna at -128 dBm in a CW bandwidth? How many dB can this be > improved with DSP processing? > > Its just a mind game. A small matchbox size satellite with dipole antenna > could at least report a few bits of data per pass over the radar beam? > > I think the Airforce is re-building the radar fence but at S band. At that > frequency some gain can be added with multi passive dipoles on a cubesat > size satellite gravity gradient stabilized to keep it pointed down. If it > could be made to work, what could we do with it? > > Just thinking... > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From zleffke at vt.edu Mon Aug 8 21:02:53 2016 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 17:02:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulating UHF Retro Reflector at RF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <900b25c8-2837-9f22-09b4-1d26521133be@vt.edu> I seem to recall a while back that Arecibo was having funding difficulties and was looking for new programs. There is another 'something that shoots straight up' with a little bit of ability to tilt the beam. They have to move the feed around to change pointing angles, no idea if they can track fast enough for a cubesat or what their lateral limits are. I think they can at least track as fast as the moon moves because they've done EME stuff in the past. using a quick online dish gain calculator, and i know arecibo is spherical not parabolic, (http://www.satsig.net/pointing/antenna-beamwidth-calculator.htm) at 437 MHz, with 50% efficiency and a 300m diameter, your looking at almost 60dB gain on boresight. So 1W at the feed gets you a Megawatt EIRP. The price you pay for that though is a 0.2 degree 3dB beam with probably minimal tracking capability. could be a neat experiment though to try to time things right with the orbit and give it a go. I'm pretty sure Arecibo is 'ham-friendly' and would probably be open to the idea. I think the folks at Greenbank are similarly 'ham-friendly' because I've heard stories about the use of old systems there (not the 100m telescope that is actively used) for EME as well (maybe a better tracking capability?). Also, I cant remember clearly, but I think there was a program back in the 60s (maybe 70s?) to deploy little X shaped dipoles into orbit. I think these were designed to resonate at microwave (possibly X-Band) frequencies and the idea was to create a 'cloud' of them and bounce comms off them between ground stations (maybe it was an initial investigation into X-band for satcom work? I can't remember, I think i read it in the history of the DSN or something like that). I bet a cubesat could be a handy little 'deployment mechanism' for something like this (1u's worth of rolled up thin tape measurers or piano wire cut for 70cm, pop the door just like a PPOD and now you've got a cloud of 70cm dipoles). There was a lot of concern even back then about causing significant orbital debris problems, but as predicted the little tiny hair-like X's decayed relatively quickly after a few weeks. If you deployed at a low altitude (maybe 350-400km or less?) I bet you could get past the orbital debris mitigation requirements. Slap a transponder on the thing too, so it can be used while we wait for the orbit to decay low enough for the filament deployment. Fun mind game. -Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 8/8/2016 4:05 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > At the SMALLSAT conference there are always presentations on modulating > optical retroreflectors so very low power passive pspacecraft can still > communicate telemetry by simply modulating the mirror of a laser reflector. > > Can we do this at RF? Unfortunately the 218 MHz megawatt radar fence in > Texas is now shut down... But, now with the amateur radio announcement of > the return of the HAARP ionosphere transmitters in Alaska, there too is > another high power CW system. But it is at HF. > http://www.arrl.org/news/haarp-facility-to-reopen-in-2017-under-new-ownership > > So what other HUGE power continuous RF emitters are there that transmits > straight up that could be used by a passivle ON/OFF modulation of a > resonant dipole in space to convey a few bits of data from a piece of wire > in space? > > I assume this is a 1/R^4 range equation. If I do the numbers right, a > passive dipole only 200 miles up with a 10 megawatts ERP transmitter at 300 > MHz could be detected by a good low noise CW receiver using a 15 dBi > receive antenna at -128 dBm in a CW bandwidth? How many dB can this be > improved with DSP processing? > > Its just a mind game. A small matchbox size satellite with dipole antenna > could at least report a few bits of data per pass over the radar beam? > > I think the Airforce is re-building the radar fence but at S band. At that > frequency some gain can be added with multi passive dipoles on a cubesat > size satellite gravity gradient stabilized to keep it pointed down. If it > could be made to work, what could we do with it? > > Just thinking... > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From vimone at alice.it Mon Aug 8 21:22:56 2016 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 23:22:56 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nusat-1 and Nusat2 Message-ID: Hi folks, I want to know if the Nusat-1 and Nusat-2 are active. Also I read that Nusat-1 and Nusat-2 has a beacon at 38k4 baud. I would like to know if it is the same 38k4 baud of the old satellites Like MO-46 and UO-36 or if there anyone active at that velocity. Thanks 73 de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ******************************************* ****** GSM +39 328 7244294 ****** ***** SMS +39 328 7244294 ***** ******************************************* From vimone at alice.it Mon Aug 8 21:39:39 2016 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 23:39:39 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Trackbox and 2 meters problem Message-ID: Hi folks, I own from a long time the Trackbox for satellites tracking. >From a while I cannot work any 3 meter downlink satellite when it is switched on as I can hear on the 2 meters downlink a noise like a ciuf ciuf train coming from the Trackbox CPU clock. Please anybody can tell me how to eliminate the problem or can suggest me something like a trackbox that do not have the CPU clock problem like the trackbox has? Any help will be really appreciated 73 de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ******************************************* ****** GSM +39 328 7244294 ****** ***** SMS +39 328 7244294 ***** ******************************************* From jimki6wj at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 8 22:12:19 2016 From: jimki6wj at sbcglobal.net (James Brown) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] wsjt help References: <2134110604.14340010.1470694339633.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2134110604.14340010.1470694339633.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I am looking for help? with set up of wsjt-10 with signalink? and IC-910H. Thanks Jim KI6WJ From AJ9N at aol.com Tue Aug 9 00:00:28 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 20:00:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-08 22:30 UTC Message-ID: <19f29b.275fe382.44da771c@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-08 22:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, direct via OK2KET The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-08-10 18:56:17 UTC 90 deg U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via IK1SLD (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-11 14:48:24 UTC 83 deg (***) Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ (***) Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 29 deg (***) Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC 42 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 120 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-08 22:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1076. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1041. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-06 20:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Tue Aug 9 02:24:37 2016 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 21:24:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites Message-ID: <7CBC8E0E95A54CC396C9D93BD0C4B9C2@Ron8300PC> Is there any good current data on the actual center uplink frequency at the satellite of the current crop of FM satellites such as SO-50 and AO-85? Ron W5RKN From scott23192 at gmail.com Tue Aug 9 02:31:30 2016 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:31:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nusat-1 and Nusat2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Telemetry from both of those satellites is quite active; while it's fun receiving the RF and pulling out the raw hex data, unfortunately there is currently NOT a decoder that I am aware of to display meaningful values. The bulk of the work to get us this far was done by Dani Estevez. His work is extraordinary and is documented at: http://destevez.net/2016/06/trying-to-decode-data-from-nusat/ ... and while both my hardware and knowledge lags way behind Dani's, here is an example of the signal & data that is possible: https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/751649344084971520 -Scott, K4KDR Montpelier, VA USA ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: Vincenzo Mone Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 5:22 PM To: Amsat - BBs Subject: [amsat-bb] Nusat-1 and Nusat2 Hi folks, I want to know if the Nusat-1 and Nusat-2 are active. Also I read that Nusat-1 and Nusat-2 has a beacon at 38k4 baud. I would like to know if it is the same 38k4 baud of the old satellites Like MO-46 and UO-36 or if there anyone active at that velocity. Thanks 73 de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ******************************************* ****** GSM +39 328 7244294 ****** ***** SMS +39 328 7244294 ***** ******************************************* From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 9 03:30:42 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 23:30:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic on 10 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 18:56 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between OR1ISS and OK2KJT. The contact should be audible over the Czech Republic and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. The International Electronic and Ham Radio Camp is a volunteer project led by the members of three radio clubs: OK2KJT, OK2KFJ and OK2KDJ. The summer camp is located in the Czech Republic (locator: JN78XW) and lasts 11 days. The objective is to get 44 children between 10 and 16 years interested in electronics and to demonstrate to them a fantastic world of amateur radio. The camp stuff is composed of experienced and enthusiastic semiconductor industry professionals who are also volunteer during the school year, leading children's free time electronic groups every week. Children make electronic equipment, build antennas, participate in HF and VHF ham radio contests, listen to amateur satellites and try the Amateur Radio Direction Finding (abr. ARDF). Except a technical programme, sport, games, competitions and various activities promoting sense of community and team spirit - these activities are performed in the camp and its surrounding forest. Some children had already been interested in amateur radio and obtained their own licenses. The camp started in 2012 and this year, it is already its 5th edition. It is a completely self-financed venture (no grants, no funding needed). A lot of photos from the last year(s) can be seen on this website: http://www.elektrotabor.cz/2015. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What is the temperature inside and outside the ISS? 2. What would you compare the smell of the stations recycled air which you breathe to? 3. What percentage of all the buttons, keypads and switches on the ISS do you perfectly know in terms of functionality? 4. Could the human eye see a strong light source, like a car high beam, from Earth pointing out the ISS at night? 5. Is there any component or device currently deployed in operation on the ISS which has been completely made by 3D printing? 6. How often do you operate a ham radio station, except the ARISS project? 7. Based on your personal experience, do you believe people could successfully sustain very long space travels, for example to Mars, in small spacecrafts? 8. Do you work on changing shifts on the ISS? 9. If necessary, how do you scratch your face while you are in the space suit in the open space? 10. Is the taste of food on the ISS as on Earth or synthetic? 11. Is the travel from Earth to the ISS and back survivable for an ordinary person? 12. What is your opinion about the progress in the space industry since the first Moon landing 50 years ago, up till now when humans are just orbiting Earth? 13. Do you have any program for making and growing own food on the ISS? 14. How long would it take to prepare for the emergency exit? 15. Do you believe that today or in nearest future there could be manufactured and launched new generation satellite entirely made by 3D printing? 16. How much free time do you have every day? 17. When you are watching Earth from the ISS window, have you changed your mind regarding your personal opinions on humans, human society, ecology and other local and global problems? 18. Do you feel the infinite size of the space? 19. How much exercise do you need to keep yourself fit? 20. How do you communicate from the space with your family? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-11 14:48:24 UTC 2. Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 3. Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 9 03:56:35 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 23:56:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL Message-ID: <9AFB78F4084C493B8EAC3846169C2867@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL on 11 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 14:48 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between OR4ISS and IK1SLD The contact should be audible over Italy and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Since 1982, Space Camp? at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama has been inspiring people of all ages about space science, space flight, and space exploration. Among the 750,000 Space Camp graduates worldwide are five astronaut alumnae, including Dr. Kate Rubins, slated to launch on expedition 48/49 to the ISS this summer. Her presence on the space station provides an incredible opportunity for young people currently attending Space Camp to be able to talk to someone who was once in their shoes who went on to become an astronaut. It is also very likely that international students will be taking part in Space Camp during the link. These students will have a unique opportunity while visiting the United States to take part in an active exchange with the largest multi-national laboratory on-or off-the planet! In addition to Space Camp trainees, museum guests will have the opportunity to take part in the activity. As the original NASA visitor center, the U.S. Space & Rocket Center has been telling NASA's story since 1970. And with over 650,000 visitors annually, the Space and Rocket Center is Alabama's top tourism attraction. And depending on when the event falls in the summer, the USSRC may also bring in educators attending Space Academy for Educators, an immersive professional development program conducted throughout the summer months annually. In short, the USSRC hope to maximize both camp and museum guest participation to promote the scientific activities taking place on the ISS, as well as highlight the technology that allows such an exchange to take place. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What was your favorite subject in school? 2. What was your toughest subject in school? 3. Who were your heroes growing up? 4. What is something you learned at Space Camp you are using in space? 5. What advice would you give a student who wants to become an astronaut? 6. What advice would you give to someone at Space Camp this week? 7. Were you afraid when your rocket launched? 8. What was the hardest thing in astronaut training? 9. How often do you talk to your family? 10. Do you speak Russian with the Russian cosmonauts? 11. What does it smell like on the ISS? 12. What is the coolest thing that you have seen in space? 13. What is your favorite food to eat in space? 14. What medical research are you working on while you're on the Space Station? 15. What other cool research projects are you helping with? 16. As a researcher, do you think NASA's biological space research will one day lead to a cure for diseases like HIV or cancer? 17. Do you work with research projects from other countries? 18. What do you think is the biggest effect on an astronaut's body from long- term spaceflight? 19. How will research on the Space Station help us get ready to go to Mars? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 2. Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com Tue Aug 9 06:31:10 2016 From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 06:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Call for Technical Papers: ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference), St. Petersburg, FL, September 16 - 18, 2006 In-Reply-To: <772806613.9311838.1470009632064.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <772806613.9311838.1470009632064.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1323047761.1633402.1470724270948.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> DCC Call for Papers - Deadline Extended to August 12 Technical Papers are being solicited for presentation at the 35th Annual ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC), to be held September 16-18 in St Petersburg, Florida.? Papers will also be published in the Conference Proceedings. Authors do not need to attend the conference to have their papers included in the Proceedings.?The submission deadline has been extended to August 12, 2016.? ?The ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference is an international forum for technically minded radio amateurs to meet and present new ideas and techniques.? Paper/presentation topic areas include ? but are not limited to ? software defined radio (SDR), digital voice, digital satellite communication, digital signal processing (DSP), HF digital modes, adapting IEEE 802.11 systems for Amateur Radio, Global Positioning System (GPS), Automatic Position Reporting System (APRS), Linux in Amateur Radio, AX.25 updates and Internet operability with Amateur Radio networks.? ?Submit papers to via e-mail (maty at arrl.org) or via post to Maty Weinberg, KB1EIB, ARRL, 225 Main St, Newington, CT 06111.?Papers will be published exactly as submitted, and authors will retain all rights.? http://www.tapr.org/dcc#dcccallforpapers http://www.tapr.org/dcc ARRL/TAPR DCC?Saint Petersburg, FL?September 16 - 18, 2016 Call for Technical Papers Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference and publication in the Conference Proceedings. Annual conference proceedings are published by the ARRL.?Presentation at the conference is not required for publication. Details on Call for Papers & Submission Guidelines are on TAPR DCC web site. ? Submission of papers are due by July 31st, 2016 and should be submitted to:Maty Weinberg, ARRL225 Main StreetNewington, CT 06111or via the Internet to maty at arrl.org Note: Papers may continue to be accepted for a short time after deadline?so please submit your paper as soon as possible if you haven't done so already. http://www.tapr.org/dcc#dcccallforpapers Details on Call for Papers Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference for publication in the Conference Proceedings.Annual conference proceedings are published by the ARRL. Presentation at the conference is not required for publication.The ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference is an international forum for radio amateurs to meet, publish their work, and present new ideas and techniques. Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories, experimental results, and practical applications. Topics include, but are not limited to: - Software Defined Radio (SDR) - Digital voice (D-Star, P25, WinDRM, FDMDV, DRMDV, G4GUO) - Digital satellite communications - Global position system - Precise Timing - Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) - Short messaging (a mode of APRS) - Digital Signal Processing (DSP) - HF digital modes - Internet interoperability with Amateur Radio networks - Spread spectrum - IEEE 802.11 and other Part 15 license-exempt systems adaptable for Amateur Radio - Using TCP/IP networking over Amateur Radio - Mesh and peer to peer wireless networking - Emergency and Homeland Defense backup digital communications in Amateur Radio - Updates on AX.25 and other wireless networking protocols - Topics that advanced the Amateur Radio art Submission Guide Lines Anyone interested in digital communications is invited to submit a paper for publication in the Conference Proceedings. Presentation at the Conference is not required for publication. If you know of someone who is doing great things with digital communications, be sure to personally tell them about this!See?above?for deadlines and where to submit your paper.Some quick guidelines: - Papers should be on 8-1/2 X 11 inch paper with the following margins: left and right, 0.75 inch; top, 0.8 inch; and bottom, 1 inch (very important). - Structure of paper should be (see single column example below, two column should follow a similar format): - Title - Author(s) with affiliation - Abstract (200 words or less) - Key words (3-5) - Body - Reference List - Papers can be in one- or two-column format. - Use 12-point Times Roman for the main body of text;?do not?number pages. - Photos and drawings should have good contrast. Note: a photocopy gives a good indication of print quality. - Electronic submissions can be made in any of the following formats: - Adobe Acrobat PDF; - Microsoft Word - Reference citations and other topics not explicitly discussed in this list should follow a recognized standard format (?APA?, IEEE, etc). - A biographical page is to be included with the manuscript. It should contain Name, Address, Phone, and E-mail for each author as well as a short descriptive paragraph about the first author. The bio page will be used to contact authors concerning the conference and presentation schedule. Release form: A formal release form is not required, but indicate that the paper is being sent for use in the Proceedings of the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference. You are only giving permission for your paper to be printed in the Proceedings.Example Single Column Page Layout? Two column would be similar in nature, but with two columns.?View Paper Example From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com Tue Aug 9 06:33:14 2016 From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 06:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] DCC Call for Technical Papers: Deadline Extended to August 12th - ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference), St. Petersburg, FL, September 16 - 18, 2006 In-Reply-To: <1323047761.1633402.1470724270948.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <772806613.9311838.1470009632064.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1323047761.1633402.1470724270948.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1235231484.14098959.1470724394474.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> DCC Call for Papers - Deadline Extended to August 12 Technical Papers are being solicited for presentation at the 35th Annual ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC), to be held September 16-18 in St Petersburg, Florida.? Papers will also be published in the Conference Proceedings. Authors do not need to attend the conference to have their papers included in the Proceedings.?The submission deadline has been extended to August 12, 2016.? ?The ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference is an international forum for technically minded radio amateurs to meet and present new ideas and techniques.? Paper/presentation topic areas include ? but are not limited to ? software defined radio (SDR), digital voice, digital satellite communication, digital signal processing (DSP), HF digital modes, adapting IEEE 802.11 systems for Amateur Radio, Global Positioning System (GPS), Automatic Position Reporting System (APRS), Linux in Amateur Radio, AX.25 updates and Internet operability with Amateur Radio networks.? ?Submit papers to via e-mail (maty at arrl.org) or via post to Maty Weinberg, KB1EIB, ARRL, 225 Main St, Newington, CT 06111.?Papers will be published exactly as submitted, and authors will retain all rights.? http://www.tapr.org/dcc#dcccallforpapers http://www.tapr.org/dcc ARRL/TAPR DCC?Saint Petersburg, FL?September 16 - 18, 2016 Call for Technical Papers Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference and publication in the Conference Proceedings. Annual conference proceedings are published by the ARRL.?Presentation at the conference is not required for publication. Details on Call for Papers & Submission Guidelines are on TAPR DCC web site. ? Submission of papers are due by July 31st, 2016 and should be submitted to:Maty Weinberg, ARRL225 Main StreetNewington, CT 06111or via the Internet to maty at arrl.org Note: Papers may continue to be accepted for a short time after deadline?so please submit your paper as soon as possible if you haven't done so already. http://www.tapr.org/dcc#dcccallforpapers Details on Call for Papers Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference for publication in the Conference Proceedings.Annual conference proceedings are published by the ARRL. Presentation at the conference is not required for publication.The ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference is an international forum for radio amateurs to meet, publish their work, and present new ideas and techniques. Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories, experimental results, and practical applications. Topics include, but are not limited to: - Software Defined Radio (SDR) - Digital voice (D-Star, P25, WinDRM, FDMDV, DRMDV, G4GUO) - Digital satellite communications - Global position system - Precise Timing - Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) - Short messaging (a mode of APRS) - Digital Signal Processing (DSP) - HF digital modes - Internet interoperability with Amateur Radio networks - Spread spectrum - IEEE 802.11 and other Part 15 license-exempt systems adaptable for Amateur Radio - Using TCP/IP networking over Amateur Radio - Mesh and peer to peer wireless networking - Emergency and Homeland Defense backup digital communications in Amateur Radio - Updates on AX.25 and other wireless networking protocols - Topics that advanced the Amateur Radio art Submission Guide Lines Anyone interested in digital communications is invited to submit a paper for publication in the Conference Proceedings. Presentation at the Conference is not required for publication. If you know of someone who is doing great things with digital communications, be sure to personally tell them about this!See?above?for deadlines and where to submit your paper.Some quick guidelines: - Papers should be on 8-1/2 X 11 inch paper with the following margins: left and right, 0.75 inch; top, 0.8 inch; and bottom, 1 inch (very important). - Structure of paper should be (see single column example below, two column should follow a similar format): - Title - Author(s) with affiliation - Abstract (200 words or less) - Key words (3-5) - Body - Reference List - Papers can be in one- or two-column format. - Use 12-point Times Roman for the main body of text;?do not?number pages. - Photos and drawings should have good contrast. Note: a photocopy gives a good indication of print quality. - Electronic submissions can be made in any of the following formats: - Adobe Acrobat PDF; - Microsoft Word - Reference citations and other topics not explicitly discussed in this list should follow a recognized standard format (?APA?, IEEE, etc). - A biographical page is to be included with the manuscript. It should contain Name, Address, Phone, and E-mail for each author as well as a short descriptive paragraph about the first author. The bio page will be used to contact authors concerning the conference and presentation schedule. Release form: A formal release form is not required, but indicate that the paper is being sent for use in the Proceedings of the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference. You are only giving permission for your paper to be printed in the Proceedings.Example Single Column Page Layout? Two column would be similar in nature, but with two columns.?View Paper Example From daniel at destevez.net Tue Aug 9 08:13:21 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:13:21 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nusat-1 and Nusat2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: El 09/08/16 a las 04:31, Scott escribi?: > Telemetry from both of those satellites is quite active; while it's fun > receiving the RF and pulling out the raw hex data, unfortunately there > is currently NOT a decoder that I am aware of to display meaningful values. > > The bulk of the work to get us this far was done by Dani Estevez. His > work is extraordinary and is documented at: > > http://destevez.net/2016/06/trying-to-decode-data-from-nusat/ Thanks for linking my blog, Scott. Unfortunately that's all we can do by now. The satellite uses CBOR to compress the telemetry into small binary packets. Some of the guys at Satellogic (the company that operates the satellites) were going to send me some details, but nothing received so far. Probably it's not so easy and they're busy enough. The downside is that we don't even have a way to check that the packets are received without bit errors. The last 4 bytes of the packet seem to be the ones which vary the most, so kudos if someone can recognise that as a CRC of the packet. I tried for a while, but got nothing. By the way, it's 40k baud, not 38k4. It eats a huge chunk of spectrum (about 80kHz). 73, Dani. From ross at topwire.co.nz Tue Aug 9 08:50:37 2016 From: ross at topwire.co.nz (Ross Whenmouth) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 20:50:37 +1200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulating UHF Retro Reflector at RF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f660441-6ece-3531-7bf6-17c89e5b9f79@topwire.co.nz> Years ago I built a "moving target simulator" for a K-band CW (homodyne) radar. I simply took the Gunnplexer module out of a K-band automatic door opener (a 24.125 GHz resonant cavity complete with feed horn, Gunn diode local oscillator and RX mixer diode) and fed my simulated doppler AF signal into it's RX mixer diode (I did not energise the Gunn diode - so the microwave oscillator was NOT operating). When I illuminated it with 24 GHz RF from the radar, it produced good reflections at RF + AF and RF - AF. I did not have access to good K-band microwave test equipment so I was unable to quantify the strength of the reflections or mixing conversion loss, etc. So I would say that yes, subject to sufficient link budget, if you had an antenna in orbit, coupled to a mixer diode, and you drove that mixer diode with AF modulation, then that antenna will re-radiate the mixing products of the RF illumination and AF modulation. Would this be an interesting experiment for an ulta-low-power bird that does not have the power budget to run an RF transmitter? 73 ZL2WRW Ross Whenmouth From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 9 09:08:42 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 05:08:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites In-Reply-To: <7CBC8E0E95A54CC396C9D93BD0C4B9C2@Ron8300PC> References: <7CBC8E0E95A54CC396C9D93BD0C4B9C2@Ron8300PC> Message-ID: There's nothing to suggest that 145.850 isn't it for SO-50. Measurements after launch showed that the uplink for AO-85 is about 435.172 MHz. 73, Paul, N8HM On Monday, August 8, 2016, Ronald G. Parsons wrote: > Is there any good current data on the actual center uplink frequency at > the satellite of the current crop of FM satellites such as SO-50 and AO-85? > > Ron W5RKN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From paul.hamradio at verizon.net Tue Aug 9 02:56:59 2016 From: paul.hamradio at verizon.net (Paul - K6HR) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:56:59 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites In-Reply-To: <7CBC8E0E95A54CC396C9D93BD0C4B9C2@Ron8300PC> References: <7CBC8E0E95A54CC396C9D93BD0C4B9C2@Ron8300PC> Message-ID: <2A622382187B4D8A9A264F5F8E4566A0@HAMBOX> Hi Ron, I just reenlisted with AMSAT and I was sent a laminated page listing what I assume is the latest information on sats and freqs. I've attached a picture of the front and back. Paul Delaney - K6HR paul.hamradio at verizon.net http://gw.k6hr.ampr.org:8080 -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ronald G. Parsons Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 7:25 PM To: AMSAT-BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites Is there any good current data on the actual center uplink frequency at the satellite of the current crop of FM satellites such as SO-50 and AO-85? Ron W5RKN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From richard.siff at verizon.net Tue Aug 9 12:23:35 2016 From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue) Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 08:23:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites In-Reply-To: <2A622382187B4D8A9A264F5F8E4566A0@HAMBOX> References: <7CBC8E0E95A54CC396C9D93BD0C4B9C2@Ron8300PC> <2A622382187B4D8A9A264F5F8E4566A0@HAMBOX> Message-ID: Hi all Except for FD K4AMG has been inactive this summer on the birds. Could someone update us on the birds and frequencies being used. We may start this year with a new middle school as many as 40 students and a couple of lectures in a STEM class. Again this year we will be at Great Bridge HS electronics class W4GBH. The broadcast radio class has been cancelled, W4FOS for maybe 2 years. However, we maintain a presence there with both HF and VHF as a Chesapeake EOC back up and state EOC link. I am also assisting with the install of their new 10 KW transmitter. Thank you AMSAT. God Bless Rich W4BUE GROL LM AMSAT richard.siff at verizon.net From dan at post.com Tue Aug 9 14:54:15 2016 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 15:54:15 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulating UHF Retro Reflector at RF? In-Reply-To: <5f660441-6ece-3531-7bf6-17c89e5b9f79@topwire.co.nz> References: <5f660441-6ece-3531-7bf6-17c89e5b9f79@topwire.co.nz> Message-ID: There is a CW radar in France on 143.050 I think some EME guys use these as high power beacons off the moon http://www.itr-datanet.com/~pe1itr/pdf/The%20143.050MHz%20Graves%20Radar%20a%20VHF%20Beacon.pdf From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Tue Aug 9 15:20:24 2016 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:20:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites In-Reply-To: References: <7CBC8E0E95A54CC396C9D93BD0C4B9C2@Ron8300PC> Message-ID: <5188ACEEFB7B47ECA2D2559E7036DBE5@Ron8300PC> Thanks Paul, I had heard that AO-85 was lower than the nominal, 435180, and did a short test yesterday. 435180 gave acceptable audio and 435168 produced distorted and noisy audio. I?ll try 435172. The satellite is so busy it?s hard to get a good test in. Ron W5RKN From: Paul Stoetzer Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 4:08 AM To: Ronald G. Parsons Cc: AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites There's nothing to suggest that 145.850 isn't it for SO-50. Measurements after launch showed that the uplink for AO-85 is about 435.172 MHz. 73, Paul, N8HM On Monday, August 8, 2016, Ronald G. Parsons wrote: Is there any good current data on the actual center uplink frequency at the satellite of the current crop of FM satellites such as SO-50 and AO-85? Ron W5RKN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Tue Aug 9 16:50:44 2016 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 11:50:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites Message-ID: I had a little time to test just now before AO-85 got too busy. I was trying to change a lot of things but at the time of the test, uplink 435175 LHCP and LHCP on the downlink was the best. Of course a short time later RHCP was better. "Tumbling Tumbleweeds" Ron W5RKN From: Ronald G. Parsons Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 10:20 AM To: Paul Stoetzer Cc: AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites Thanks Paul, I had heard that AO-85 was lower than the nominal, 435180, and did a short test yesterday. 435180 gave acceptable audio and 435168 produced distorted and noisy audio. I?ll try 435172. The satellite is so busy it?s hard to get a good test in. Ron W5RKN From: Paul Stoetzer Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 4:08 AM To: Ronald G. Parsons Cc: AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites There's nothing to suggest that 145.850 isn't it for SO-50. Measurements after launch showed that the uplink for AO-85 is about 435.172 MHz. 73, Paul, N8HM On Monday, August 8, 2016, Ronald G. Parsons wrote: Is there any good current data on the actual center uplink frequency at the satellite of the current crop of FM satellites such as SO-50 and AO-85? Ron W5RKN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pa3guo at upcmail.nl Tue Aug 9 17:27:22 2016 From: pa3guo at upcmail.nl (PA3GUO) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:27:22 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail-2 re-scheduled for launch in Q3/2017 Message-ID: <000001d1f263$49b24900$dd16db00$@upcmail.nl> Very sorry to see this fantastic new satellite getting delayed! I consider it as a major boost to use of high frequencies by satellite-radio amateurs (beyond the fact that it is a HEO sat). Well, it IS still a great opportunity to look forward to!! Henk, PA3GUO, The Netherlands ---- We have been informed by Es'hailSat Qatar Satellite company, that the launch of Es'hail-2 with the first P4-A geostationary amateur radio transponder is shifted to Q3/2017. From py4zbz at yahoo.com Tue Aug 9 19:17:37 2016 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulating UHF Retro Reflector at RF? References: <1682678046.12003427.1470770257196.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1682678046.12003427.1470770257196.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Daniel Cussen dan at post.com?> Tue Aug 9 14:54:15 UTC 2016 > There is a CW radar in France on 143.050 > I think some EME guys use these as high power beacons off the moon Yes ! Graves radar received in Brazil: 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Tue Aug 9 20:16:18 2016 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 22:16:18 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4edf048b-ee44-fd77-b87b-04ce478180ad@t-online.de> Ron, if you use SatPC32 you can use the "Upl. Calibr." controls in menu CAT to correct the uplink frequency in steps of 10, 100 and 1000 Hz (while you are transmitting) to check which uplink works best. The controls are disabled with FM-Sats by default. To enable them also for FM sats click the "V" control to "V+". 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 09.08.2016 um 18:50 schrieb Ronald G. Parsons: > I had a little time to test just now before AO-85 got too busy. I was trying to change a lot of things but at the time of the test, uplink 435175 LHCP and LHCP on the downlink was the best. Of course a short time later RHCP was better. "Tumbling Tumbleweeds" > Ron W5RKN > > From: Ronald G. Parsons > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 10:20 AM > To: Paul Stoetzer > Cc: AMSAT-BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites > > Thanks Paul, > I had heard that AO-85 was lower than the nominal, 435180, and did a short test yesterday. > 435180 gave acceptable audio and 435168 produced distorted and noisy audio. > I?ll try 435172. The satellite is so busy it?s hard to get a good test in. > Ron W5RKN > From: Paul Stoetzer > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 4:08 AM > To: Ronald G. Parsons > Cc: AMSAT-BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Uplink frequency of FM satellites > > There's nothing to suggest that 145.850 isn't it for SO-50. > > Measurements after launch showed that the uplink for AO-85 is about 435.172 MHz. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Monday, August 8, 2016, Ronald G. Parsons wrote: > > Is there any good current data on the actual center uplink frequency at the satellite of the current crop of FM satellites such as SO-50 and AO-85? > > Ron W5RKN > _______________________________________________ > Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From cwo4mann at comcast.net Tue Aug 9 20:51:59 2016 From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 15:51:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Light duty az-el rotators Message-ID: <4E61E137-D60A-4562-B886-8455419FE869@comcast.net> I'm going to start using the Arrow dual-band antenna with my FT-736. I've ordered the EA4DX rotor control. Isn't there a combination of inexpensive tv rotators which I can use? I remember using a "pass-thru" rotator set when I was DA1BB; two rotators, one for azimuth and one for elevation. Seems to me I bought them locally. Balanced the horizontal mast with a weight at one end. That set up was with a Fritzel 2-m and 70-cm helical set. The channel master rotors I've seen have a flat base. Looks like Overkill. Any ideas? 73 Dave N4CVX Sent from my iPad From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Tue Aug 9 20:58:42 2016 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 14:58:42 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail-2 re-scheduled for launch in Q3/2017 In-Reply-To: <000001d1f263$49b24900$dd16db00$@upcmail.nl> References: <000001d1f263$49b24900$dd16db00$@upcmail.nl> Message-ID: It is the nature of going to space usually. I have one exception. ISRO told my company they wanted to go 6 months earlier!! We switched to SpaceX Falcon 9!! On Tuesday, August 9, 2016, PA3GUO wrote: > Very sorry to see this fantastic new satellite getting delayed! > I consider it as a major boost to use of high frequencies by > satellite-radio amateurs (beyond the fact that it is a HEO sat). > Well, it IS still a great opportunity to look forward to!! > > Henk, PA3GUO, The Netherlands > > ---- > > We have been informed by Es'hailSat Qatar Satellite company, that the > launch of Es'hail-2 with the first P4-A geostationary amateur radio > transponder is shifted to Q3/2017. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT From pa3guo at upcmail.nl Tue Aug 9 21:02:56 2016 From: pa3guo at upcmail.nl (=?UTF-8?B?UEEzR1VP?=) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:02:56 +0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?Es=27hail-2_re-scheduled_for_launch_in_Q3/20?= =?utf-8?q?17?= In-Reply-To: References: <000001d1f263$49b24900$dd16db00$@upcmail.nl> Message-ID: <1470776576.999758452@f2.my.com> Wow ! That is fantastic news, congratulations !! Henk dinsdag, 09 augustus 2016, 10:58p.m. +02:00 van Robert McGwier rwmcgwier at gmail.com : >It is the nature of going to space usually. > >I have one exception. ISRO told my company they wanted to go 6 months earlier!! ? > >We switched to SpaceX Falcon 9!! > > > >On Tuesday, August 9, 2016, PA3GUO < pa3guo at upcmail.nl > wrote: >>Very sorry to see this fantastic new satellite getting delayed! >>I consider it as a major boost to use of high frequencies by >>satellite-radio amateurs (beyond the fact that it is a HEO sat). >>Well, it IS still a great opportunity to look forward to!! >> >>Henk, PA3GUO, The Netherlands >> >>---- >> >>We have been informed by Es'hailSat Qatar Satellite company, that the >>launch of Es'hail-2 with the first P4-A geostationary amateur radio >>transponder is shifted to Q3/2017. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > >-- >Bob McGwier >Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc >Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc >Research Professor Virginia Tech >Chief Scientist: ?The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology >Senior Member IEEE,?Facebook: N4HYBob,?ARS: N4HY >Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) >Director of AMSAT From nss at mwt.net Wed Aug 10 04:13:22 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 23:13:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W9KE Simplesat Message-ID: <3613be80-2861-3bf5-b737-6b1240d5e89e@mwt.net> Pretty neat program. But I cant get it to display the sat lists like he has, all it has available is the celestrak and nothing else, Anyone? Joe WB9SBD From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Wed Aug 10 12:32:01 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 07:32:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cubesat mission of the year Message-ID: <6ECB42B4-F1F3-4A2F-8777-23A818CE4803@mindspring.com> In conjunction with Smallsat, CalPoly has a survey for cubesat mission of the year. Although Fox-1A isn't listed, there is a write-in opportunity at the bottom of the survey. As AMSAT VP Engineering Jerry Buxton tweeted "@AMSAT Fox-1A launched October 8, 2015. 100% operational with Vanderbilt ISDE radiation experiment and amateur radio 2 way communications." Please visit surveymonkey.com/r/MH8DCJ9 and write-in AMSAT Fox-1A at the end of the survey. The poll closes this evening. Thanks, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations From rhyolite at leikhim.com Wed Aug 10 18:25:14 2016 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:25:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] MAKI DENKI GTR-1200 23CM Mast Head 10W PA and LNA NF<0.5dB, Gain 23dB, 1296 MHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00bc8772-05f1-4f99-d815-931d6e2e5579@leikhim.com> Last hours! $76! On 7/31/2016 9:51 PM, Joe Leikhim wrote: > MAKI DENKI GTR-1200 23CM Mast Head 10W PA and LNA NF<0.5dB, Gain 23dB, > 1296 MHz > > This item works somewhat, RX yes, TX no, and needs some TLC, but it is > complete and unmolested. > > I am further cleaning out my closets so that I can find my way to the > next stage of my ham radio hobby. Frankly I have too much stuff and > need to concentrate on a couple projects. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/162154714460? > -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim at Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Aug 11 05:08:00 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 01:08:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] National Parks on The Air - Satellite Activation #2 - Blue Ridge Parkway Message-ID: https://youtu.be/VCCfEDOBC_U Please Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1 I did two passes from Blue Ridge Parkway PK01 EM85 at Craggy Gardens in North Carolina. This is the first one from Saturday July 16th. Confusingly, my first video (featured at the end of this video) is from the second pass on Sunday. I made 14 contacts in this video on Saturday and 10 on the Sunday pass in the other video (https://youtu.be/EyXZ59-t8BQ). Stations contacted: 01) K8YSE 02) N8HM 03) K4FEG 04) KM4ULB 05) W2JV 06) KI4RO 07) WI9I 08) WA5KBH 09) W4DTA 10) N4UFO 11) AA5PK 12) WU2M 13) K5ND 14) W1PA This was filmed on Saturday July 16th, 2016 on the Craggy Overlook Trail on the Blue Ridge Parkway in North Carolina. Link to the other video featured at the end: https://youtu.be/EyXZ59-t8BQ Thanks for watching! 73, John Brier KG4AKV From AJ9N at aol.com Thu Aug 11 07:10:52 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 03:10:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-11 08:00 UTC Message-ID: <1cf519.10c65bb6.44dd7efc@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-11 08:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, direct via OK2KET The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact was successful: Wed 2016-08-10 18:56:17 UTC 90 deg (***) U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-11 14:48:24 UTC 83 deg Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 29 deg Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC 42 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 120 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-11 08:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1077. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1042. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-11 08:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From bruninga at usna.edu Thu Aug 11 13:31:48 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:31:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Univ of Maryland and Johns Hopkins? Message-ID: Is there any amateur satellite activity or interest at either the University of Maryland or John's Hopkins or other Maryland university? Bob, WB4APR From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Thu Aug 11 13:54:04 2016 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 14:54:04 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] New FUNcube warehouse testing. Volunteers required to spare a few packets Message-ID: <0BA31B66-55AB-4A2C-9D5C-5EBF07E6C396@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi, I'm working on a new data capture mechanism to support Nayif-1 and ESEO and the current FC warehouse will eventually move across to it (without loss of scores) I wonder if you could spare a few FC1 & UKube-1 packets by changing the dashboard data URL: from http://data.funcube.org.uk to https://services.badgersoft.com/warehouse One pass will be fine. DON'T FORGET TO CHANGE iT BACK :-) your siteId and authKey remain the same. Alternatively, if you have a bin file to replay to the test URL that would also be useful. Let me know if you've submitted anything. Many thanks 73 Dave, G4DPZ FUNcube warehouse designer/developer From dan at post.com Thu Aug 11 14:37:41 2016 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 15:37:41 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL In-Reply-To: <9AFB78F4084C493B8EAC3846169C2867@DHJ> References: <9AFB78F4084C493B8EAC3846169C2867@DHJ> Message-ID: The live stream has started from the telebridge for this contact at 14:48UTC today. See it here: http://www.ariotti.com This will be a telebridge radio contact, operated by IK1SLD, located in Casale Monferrato, Italy. The downlink signal will be audible in Europe on 145.800 MHz narrowband FM. Moreover, IKSLD will stream a live video of the ground station operating the contact at: www.batc.tv/iss and www.ariotti.com Gaston Bertels ? ON4WF ARISS past chairman On 09/08/2016, n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: > An International Space Station school contact has been planned with > participants at U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL on 11 Aug. The > event is scheduled to begin at approximately 14:48 UTC. It is recommended > that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The > duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The > contact will be a telebridge between OR4ISS and IK1SLD The contact should be > audible over Italy and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to > listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be > conducted in English. > > > > > > Since 1982, Space Camp? at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, > Alabama has been inspiring people of all ages about space science, space > flight, and space exploration. Among the 750,000 Space Camp graduates > worldwide are five astronaut alumnae, including Dr. Kate Rubins, slated to > launch on expedition 48/49 to the ISS this summer. Her presence on the space > station provides an incredible opportunity for young people currently > attending Space Camp to be able to talk to someone who was once in their > shoes who went on to become an astronaut. It is also very likely that > international students will be taking part in Space Camp during the link. > These students will have a unique opportunity while visiting the United > States to take part in an active exchange with the largest multi-national > laboratory on-or off-the planet! In addition to Space Camp trainees, museum > guests will have the opportunity to take part in the activity. As the > original NASA visitor center, the U.S. Space & Rocket Center has been > telling NASA's story since 1970. And with over 650,000 visitors annually, > the Space and Rocket Center is Alabama's top tourism attraction. And > depending on when the event falls in the summer, the USSRC may also bring in > educators attending Space Academy for Educators, an immersive professional > development program conducted throughout the summer months annually. In > short, the USSRC hope to maximize both camp and museum guest participation > to promote the scientific activities taking place on the ISS, as well as > highlight the technology that allows such an exchange to take place. > > > > > > Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: > > > > 1. What was your favorite subject in school? > > 2. What was your toughest subject in school? > > 3. Who were your heroes growing up? > > 4. What is something you learned at Space Camp you are using in space? > > 5. What advice would you give a student who wants to become an astronaut? > > 6. What advice would you give to someone at Space Camp this week? > > 7. Were you afraid when your rocket launched? > > 8. What was the hardest thing in astronaut training? > > 9. How often do you talk to your family? > > 10. Do you speak Russian with the Russian cosmonauts? > > 11. What does it smell like on the ISS? > > 12. What is the coolest thing that you have seen in space? > > 13. What is your favorite food to eat in space? > > 14. What medical research are you working on while you're on the Space > > Station? > > 15. What other cool research projects are you helping with? > > 16. As a researcher, do you think NASA's biological space research will one > > > day lead to a cure for diseases like HIV or cancer? > > 17. Do you work with research projects from other countries? > > 18. What do you think is the biggest effect on an astronaut's body from > long- > > term spaceflight? > > 19. How will research on the Space Station help us get ready to go to Mars? > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: > > > > Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the > > International Space Station (ARISS). > > > > To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status > > > > > > > > Next planned event(s): > > > > 1. Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via > K2ZRO > > The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS > > The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ > > Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC > > > > > > 2. Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS > > The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS > > The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS > > Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC > > > > > > > > > > About ARISS: > > Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative > venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that > support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, > sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American > Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in > Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). > The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, > engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts > via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in > classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced > amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a > variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, > teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, > and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, > and www.arrl.org. > > > > Thank you & 73, > > David - AA4KN > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From nss at mwt.net Thu Aug 11 15:13:41 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:13:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] W9KE Simplesat In-Reply-To: <3613be80-2861-3bf5-b737-6b1240d5e89e@mwt.net> References: <3613be80-2861-3bf5-b737-6b1240d5e89e@mwt.net> Message-ID: This simple sat program I think I will really like. But need some help getting it running correctly. can anyone please if you run this program copy... SimpleSatData>SatData>WebDataSources.txt Copy that text file, Hopefully thats all I need. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/9/2016 11:13 PM, Joe wrote: > Pretty neat program. > > But I cant get it to display the sat lists like he has, all it has > available is the celestrak and nothing else, > > Anyone? > > Joe WB9SBD > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Aug 12 04:29:57 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 04:29:57 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ NPOTA HP45/TR13, Friday (12 August) Message-ID: Hi! On Friday (12 August), I will work various passes from the grounds of the Tumacacori National Historic Park in southern Arizona. This park is also part of the Juan Bautista de Anza National Historic Trail, which runs through parts of Arizona and California. The location I plan on working from would be NPOTA sites HP45 and TR13, in grid DM41ln along the I-19 freeway between Tucson and the USA/Mexico border. I am hoping to work as many FM satellite passes as I can from Tumacacori. There is an AO-85 pass just after 1600 UTC that I might be able to work, if I get an early start. It takes almost 3 hours to drive from the Phoenix area to this park. Since this is a very high pass for Arizona, I may stop and work this pass from wherever I happen to be, if I am unable to make it all the way to Tumacacori in time. I should almost certainly make it to Tumacacori in time for passes later in the morning. I will also work the afternoon ISS and NO-84 passes if those digipeaters are on, using APRS messages from my TH-D72A HT. Please look for WD9EWK-9 on those passes. After this day-trip, I will upload my logs to Logbook of the World. All QSOs made from Tumacacori will contain both NPOTA site IDs. Please e-mail me directly with QSO details if you would like to receive a QSL card. Although the NPOTA program works only with LOTW, I am happy to send a QSL card if you request a card and your QSO details are in my log. Please look at my @WD9EWK Twitter feed - visible in a web browser at http://twitter.com/WD9EWK - for updates during the day. While on the road, I will use WD9EWK-9 as my APRS call. This should appear in various web sites, including http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9 . 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From AJ9N at aol.com Fri Aug 12 04:56:59 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 00:56:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-12 02:00 UTC Message-ID: Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-12 02:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact was successful: Thu 2016-08-11 14:48:24 UTC 83 deg (***) Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 29 deg Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC 42 deg **************************************************************************** **ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 120 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-12 02:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1078. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1043. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-12 02:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Fri Aug 12 06:38:36 2016 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:38:36 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Warehouse Testing Message-ID: <3228F588-8908-4364-8A06-8323F82E164E@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi, Thanks to all who took the time to upload a few packets to the data server under development: | 16 | PA3WEG | | 98 | VK5GU | | 97 | KB1PVH | | 252 | WC7V | | 330 | K7WDO | | 138 | G3VHF | | 45 | AI9IN | | 20 | Scott_Chapman | Proved that we can: - detect the satellite from the stream, FC1 (EM/FM), UKube1, Nayif-1, we will be testing ESEO locally. - save raw hex frames - determine the user who uploaded the original packet - added users to existing uploads (for scoring) - detected users trying to upload the same packet more than once - detected if a packet was older than two weeks, our notional cut-off point, and rejected them - saw concurrent uploads without error Please reset the dashboard URL to http://data.funcube.org.uk 73 Dave, G4DPZ From scott23192 at gmail.com Fri Aug 12 06:58:36 2016 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 02:58:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNCube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry via FO-29?? Message-ID: While monitoring FO-29 for activity tonight, I saw what appeared to be the distinctive waveform of the telemetry stream from FUNCube-1. Is this common? Or even possible? It was certainly a first for me. I see that the telemetry frequency on FUNCube-1 falls inside of the uplink range for FO-29. The signal was a little too weak for me to decode with the FUNCube dashboard ground station app, but I made some screen shots if anyone is interested. My Tweet with pics is at: https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/763990419378057216 FUNCube-1 was over Alaska & FO-29 was flying North-to-South down the Eastern US. Would that put them in sight of each other? If this is what happened, then it's my first satellite-to-satellite reception, which I thought was pretty cool. Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR Montpelier, VA USA From daniel at destevez.net Fri Aug 12 08:16:36 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Est=c3=a9vez?=) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 10:16:36 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNCube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry via FO-29?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95675672-bc00-fd69-ea7f-f54b28280d2e@destevez.net> El 12/08/16 a las 08:58, Scott escribi?: > While monitoring FO-29 for activity tonight, I saw what appeared to be the > distinctive waveform of the telemetry stream from FUNCube-1. > > Is this common? Or even possible? It was certainly a first for me. I see > that the telemetry frequency on FUNCube-1 falls inside of the uplink range > for FO-29. Hi Scott, Certainly it's FUNCube-1 via FO-29. That's not so common, but I've seen a few reports of this before on the mailing list. Someone even managed to decode the telemetry. Probably you can google if you're interested in previous reports. Also, satellite-to-satellite QSO is also possible for some pairs of satellites and has being done (for AO-7 and FO-29 as far as I can remember). Note that the transponder of FO-29 is quite wide and will retransmit a lot of birds that downlink on 2m, so lots of possibilities for reception via FO-29. 73, Dani. From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Fri Aug 12 12:16:25 2016 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] BIRDS CubeSat Constellation + ISS SSTV References: <1356423359.22702408.1471004185584.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1356423359.22702408.1471004185584.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/11/ham-radio-birds-constellation/ Receive Pictures from Space ? ISS SSTV August 15-16 - WebSDR's available? https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/10/iss-sstv-august/ Video of ISS HamTV talk at EMF https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/08/iss-hamtv-emf-talk/ Video of $50SAT ham radio satellite talk https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/08/50-dollar-sat-emf-talk/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From zleffke at vt.edu Fri Aug 12 14:48:03 2016 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 10:48:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNCube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry via FO-29?? In-Reply-To: <95675672-bc00-fd69-ea7f-f54b28280d2e@destevez.net> References: <95675672-bc00-fd69-ea7f-f54b28280d2e@destevez.net> Message-ID: <4f62759a-3bcd-f410-98e9-29e6fe5593b9@vt.edu> It is possible to decode, though conditions need to be just so. I was able to turn this exact phenomenon into a student project at VT for the undergrad SatCom course. The students had to simulate the event to predict when the chain (crosslink) events would occur (line of sight between the two birds and FO-29 over the VTGS), what the Link Budget looks like during the chain event (so we can predict the best opportunity for successful decodes), and what the Doppler profile would look like during the event (which tends to be really different than expected, like the center frequency drifting UP due to the relative motion between the birds). We then used the VTGS to monitor a few of the events based of the student generated schedules and two of the students got extra credit on the project because they were present during a successful demodulation (and their predictions were spot on!). I posted a short blurb on our facebook page about it: https://www.facebook.com/vtgroundstation/ During that event we were able to dig out 6 packets using GNU Radio and a custom AO-73 modem (Basicaly Phil Karn's AO-40 reference code wraped for GNU Radio, also implemented by a student). Probably of more interest to this list though is Paul's (N8HM) success with standard equipment. He dug out 9 packets using the Funcube Dashboard and I believe the Funcube dongle. During that particular conjunction event, one REALLY interesting thing that happened is that we caught the instant in time when AO-73 moved out of eclipse. We could see the signal drifting along just a few dB above the noise (willing it to increase just a bit to achieve sufficient SNR for a solid decode) then all of a sudden it jumped up by 10 dB and packets started decoding! Very cool stuff. FO-29 is one of my favorite birds for looking at these types of exotic cases precisely because it's transponder covers half of the Amateur Satellite Service 2m band. As previously mentioned, lots of opportunities for interesting events (crosslinks, gelocating the FM interferers, etc.). AO-73 is also a great bird because of the Forward Error Correction on the TLM link (among other reasons). For our GNU-Radio modem, we need about 7 dB SNR (including implementation loss there) for solid demodulation. Fine Business! -Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 8/12/2016 4:16 AM, Daniel Est?vez wrote: > El 12/08/16 a las 08:58, Scott escribi?: >> While monitoring FO-29 for activity tonight, I saw what appeared to be the >> distinctive waveform of the telemetry stream from FUNCube-1. >> >> Is this common? Or even possible? It was certainly a first for me. I see >> that the telemetry frequency on FUNCube-1 falls inside of the uplink range >> for FO-29. > Hi Scott, > > Certainly it's FUNCube-1 via FO-29. That's not so common, but I've seen > a few reports of this before on the mailing list. Someone even managed > to decode the telemetry. Probably you can google if you're interested in > previous reports. Also, satellite-to-satellite QSO is also possible for > some pairs of satellites and has being done (for AO-7 and FO-29 as far > as I can remember). Note that the transponder of FO-29 is quite wide and > will retransmit a lot of birds that downlink on 2m, so lots of > possibilities for reception via FO-29. > > 73, > > Dani. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Fri Aug 12 14:54:12 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:54:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help Please with Simplesat Message-ID: <6097f4c7-6dbe-085c-bfef-a1143eeec98e@mwt.net> This program seems really interesting, but I can not get it to load all the birds, http://www.tomdoyle.org/SimpleSatLookDown/SimpleSatLookDown.html Like NO-84 etc. I find it amazing that a person that makes a program, has zero way to contact the person. Granted it IS a free program so I can't complain, it is just UG all I can see is the Celestrak info and that list does not include NO-84 Anyone Help? Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com From daniel at destevez.net Fri Aug 12 14:55:50 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Est=c3=a9vez?=) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:55:50 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNCube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry via FO-29?? In-Reply-To: <4f62759a-3bcd-f410-98e9-29e6fe5593b9@vt.edu> References: <95675672-bc00-fd69-ea7f-f54b28280d2e@destevez.net> <4f62759a-3bcd-f410-98e9-29e6fe5593b9@vt.edu> Message-ID: El 12/08/16 a las 16:48, Zach Leffke escribi?: > For our > GNU-Radio modem, we need about 7 dB SNR (including implementation loss > there) for solid demodulation. Hi Zach, Is this GNU-radio AO-73 receiver available online? It would be interesting to take a look at. How does it compare (in terms of SNR performance) to the dashboard software? 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 12 15:02:24 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:02:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNCube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry via FO-29?? In-Reply-To: <4f62759a-3bcd-f410-98e9-29e6fe5593b9@vt.edu> References: <95675672-bc00-fd69-ea7f-f54b28280d2e@destevez.net> <4f62759a-3bcd-f410-98e9-29e6fe5593b9@vt.edu> Message-ID: Hi Zach, Yes, I got 9 packets using an Arrow, a FT-817ND, and a High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamp. I did not decode them live, I was using an Olympus VN-702PC recorder and fed the audio into the Dashboard later. I was not expecting success, but it did work quite well! 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Zach Leffke wrote: > It is possible to decode, though conditions need to be just so. I was able > to turn this exact phenomenon into a student project at VT for the > undergrad SatCom course. The students had to simulate the event to predict > when the chain (crosslink) events would occur (line of sight between the > two birds and FO-29 over the VTGS), what the Link Budget looks like during > the chain event (so we can predict the best opportunity for successful > decodes), and what the Doppler profile would look like during the event > (which tends to be really different than expected, like the center > frequency drifting UP due to the relative motion between the birds). We > then used the VTGS to monitor a few of the events based of the student > generated schedules and two of the students got extra credit on the project > because they were present during a successful demodulation (and their > predictions were spot on!). > > I posted a short blurb on our facebook page about it: > https://www.facebook.com/vtgroundstation/ > > During that event we were able to dig out 6 packets using GNU Radio and a > custom AO-73 modem (Basicaly Phil Karn's AO-40 reference code wraped for > GNU Radio, also implemented by a student). Probably of more interest to > this list though is Paul's (N8HM) success with standard equipment. He dug > out 9 packets using the Funcube Dashboard and I believe the Funcube dongle. > > During that particular conjunction event, one REALLY interesting thing > that happened is that we caught the instant in time when AO-73 moved out of > eclipse. We could see the signal drifting along just a few dB above the > noise (willing it to increase just a bit to achieve sufficient SNR for a > solid decode) then all of a sudden it jumped up by 10 dB and packets > started decoding! > > Very cool stuff. FO-29 is one of my favorite birds for looking at these > types of exotic cases precisely because it's transponder covers half of the > Amateur Satellite Service 2m band. As previously mentioned, lots of > opportunities for interesting events (crosslinks, gelocating the FM > interferers, etc.). AO-73 is also a great bird because of the Forward > Error Correction on the TLM link (among other reasons). For our GNU-Radio > modem, we need about 7 dB SNR (including implementation loss there) for > solid demodulation. > > Fine Business! > > -Zach, KJ4QLP > > Research Associate > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > > On 8/12/2016 4:16 AM, Daniel Est?vez wrote: > >> El 12/08/16 a las 08:58, Scott escribi?: >> >>> While monitoring FO-29 for activity tonight, I saw what appeared to be >>> the >>> distinctive waveform of the telemetry stream from FUNCube-1. >>> >>> Is this common? Or even possible? It was certainly a first for me. I >>> see >>> that the telemetry frequency on FUNCube-1 falls inside of the uplink >>> range >>> for FO-29. >>> >> Hi Scott, >> >> Certainly it's FUNCube-1 via FO-29. That's not so common, but I've seen >> a few reports of this before on the mailing list. Someone even managed >> to decode the telemetry. Probably you can google if you're interested in >> previous reports. Also, satellite-to-satellite QSO is also possible for >> some pairs of satellites and has being done (for AO-7 and FO-29 as far >> as I can remember). Note that the transponder of FO-29 is quite wide and >> will retransmit a lot of birds that downlink on 2m, so lots of >> possibilities for reception via FO-29. >> >> 73, >> >> Dani. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 12 15:15:19 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:15:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help Please with Simplesat In-Reply-To: <6097f4c7-6dbe-085c-bfef-a1143eeec98e@mwt.net> References: <6097f4c7-6dbe-085c-bfef-a1143eeec98e@mwt.net> Message-ID: Tom is on this list. Edit the SatLookDown1_28\SimpleSatData\SatData\WebDataSources.txt file and add the following line: http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, AMSAT.txt Then restart the program and click web update. AMSAT keps should then be available for selection. AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not sure why he took it out. With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option. Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include satellites launched on classified missions. 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Joe wrote: > This program seems really interesting, but I can not get it to load all the > birds, > > http://www.tomdoyle.org/SimpleSatLookDown/SimpleSatLookDown.html > > Like NO-84 etc. > > I find it amazing that a person that makes a program, has zero way to > contact the person. Granted it IS a free program so I can't complain, it is > just UG all I can see is the Celestrak info and that list does not include > NO-84 > > Anyone Help? > > Joe WB9SBD > -- > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From zleffke at vt.edu Fri Aug 12 15:29:32 2016 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:29:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNCube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry via FO-29?? In-Reply-To: References: <95675672-bc00-fd69-ea7f-f54b28280d2e@destevez.net> <4f62759a-3bcd-f410-98e9-29e6fe5593b9@vt.edu> Message-ID: Hi Dani, Great questions. On my long list of 'TO DOs' for the VTGS is to get our github account up and running to push our satellite GNU Radio work back out to the Open Source community. Once we do I'll post the code along with the pyBOMBS recipes for installation. I don't have an ETA for that though (maybe this Fall semester.....?). There are a few other things in the Out of Tree Module that would be of use to Hams as well. For example we have scramblers and descramblers that are AX.25 compliant. We also have an AFSK TRANSMITTER as well as an AFSK receiver (I've seen a few AFSK/AX.25 GNU Radio projects, but they are all receivers and they don't separate the demodulator from the link layer protocol). Fair warning if I ever do get the code posted and you play with it, the output of the modem is the raw 256 byte packet (after FEC decode and CRC check, that I send to a PDU socket). There is no pretty dashboard in our code. The intent was to develop a separate dashboard for AO-73 that would connect to the GNU-Radio modem over the socket (we operate our ground station remotely from a mini Mission Control at Space at VT). That is also on the long list of to dos. I've never compared our receiver to the funcube dashboard side-by-side in a real detailed way. That is definitely something I would be interested in seeing the results of. I do use a funcube dongle with the dashboard for student demos with an arrow antenna. I would say comparing my 'impressions' of both is that they both work very well and basically just after AO-73 pops over the horizon we get solid decodes on both (FEC is great!). My gut is that with all of the great folks at AMSAT-UK and all of the good engineering effort they put into that software, that theirs probably performs a bit better. We make up for our probably higher implementation loss by have a pair of 14 element crossed yagis (2 M2 antennas 2MCP14s combined in phase), so lots of gain. The AO-73 dashboard also does the Automatic Frequency Correction, which is something we don't quite have implemented in our GNU Radio flowgraphs yet (we tune either manually or via a Gpredict interface to GNU-Radio to get inside the capture bandwidth of our differential bpsk demod). Something that would make a good comparison easier to implement, and that I would like to see, is a Linux version (and open source) of the FunCube Dashboard. I don't really want to mess around with Windows emulators on our Linux servers/workstations in the VTGS. That could be a fun student project to try to integrate a Linux version of the Dashboard with the Socket interface to GNU Radio (and would allow us to forward the tlm packets to the data warehouse easier). That's one of the things I really like about the AO-85 dashboard is the cross-platform support. Good questions, thanks for the interest. I'll try to put more effort into elevating the github thing on the to do list this semester. -Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 8/12/2016 10:55 AM, Daniel Est?vez wrote: > El 12/08/16 a las 16:48, Zach Leffke escribi?: > >> For our >> GNU-Radio modem, we need about 7 dB SNR (including implementation loss >> there) for solid demodulation. > Hi Zach, > > Is this GNU-radio AO-73 receiver available online? It would be > interesting to take a look at. How does it compare (in terms of SNR > performance) to the dashboard software? > > 73, > > Dani EA4GPZ. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Fri Aug 12 15:43:37 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 10:43:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help Please with Simplesat In-Reply-To: References: <6097f4c7-6dbe-085c-bfef-a1143eeec98e@mwt.net> Message-ID: <62c4cb5d-bb9a-9b60-0a74-83ea6456af09@mwt.net> Thanks Paul, I was missing the last part after the .txt of the url, the AMSAT.txt Now it works! THANKS!!! Joe Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/12/2016 10:15 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Tom is on this list. > > Edit the SatLookDown1_28\SimpleSatData\SatData\WebDataSources.txt file > and add the following line: > > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, AMSAT.txt > > Then restart the program and click web update. AMSAT keps should then > be available for selection. > > AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not > sure why he took it out. With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of > similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite > tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option. > Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include > satellites launched on classified missions. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Joe wrote: >> This program seems really interesting, but I can not get it to load all the >> birds, >> >> http://www.tomdoyle.org/SimpleSatLookDown/SimpleSatLookDown.html >> >> Like NO-84 etc. >> >> I find it amazing that a person that makes a program, has zero way to >> contact the person. Granted it IS a free program so I can't complain, it is >> just UG all I can see is the Celestrak info and that list does not include >> NO-84 >> >> Anyone Help? >> >> Joe WB9SBD >> -- >> Sig >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >> Idle Tyme >> Idle-Tyme.com >> http://www.idle-tyme.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From daniel at destevez.net Fri Aug 12 16:33:09 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:33:09 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNCube-1 (AO-73) Telemetry via FO-29?? In-Reply-To: References: <95675672-bc00-fd69-ea7f-f54b28280d2e@destevez.net> <4f62759a-3bcd-f410-98e9-29e6fe5593b9@vt.edu> Message-ID: <840faf84-5128-e1b0-a269-2d0d2728cba3@destevez.net> El 12/08/16 a las 17:29, Zach Leffke escribi?: > Hi Dani, > > Great questions. On my long list of 'TO DOs' for the VTGS is to get > our github account up and running to push our satellite GNU Radio work > back out to the Open Source community. Once we do I'll post the code > along with the pyBOMBS recipes for installation. I don't have an ETA > for that though (maybe this Fall semester.....?). There are a few other > things in the Out of Tree Module that would be of use to Hams as well. > For example we have scramblers and descramblers that are AX.25 > compliant. We also have an AFSK TRANSMITTER as well as an AFSK receiver > (I've seen a few AFSK/AX.25 GNU Radio projects, but they are all > receivers and they don't separate the demodulator from the link layer > protocol). Hi Zack, Looking forward to it, as this will be useful for me and probably other hams. I understand that it is a bit of work to clean the code up to push to github. In fact, I also have my own AFSK/AX.25 GNUradio transceiver in github, as I wasn't too happy with any of the other projects (it also does FSK and BSPK, which is useful for QB50p). For AX.25 (de)scrambling I use the default GNUradio blocks. They can be used if you understand what parameters you need to put. In case anyone is interested: https://github.com/daniestevez/gr-kiss http://destevez.net/2016/05/scramblers-and-their-implementation-in-gnuradio/ > The AO-73 dashboard also does the Automatic Frequency Correction, > which is something we don't quite have implemented in our GNU Radio > flowgraphs yet (we tune either manually or via a Gpredict interface to > GNU-Radio to get inside the capture bandwidth of our differential bpsk > demod). It's not as good as the software in the dashboard, which will search for the signal in all the passband and track it, but in GNUradio you can use FLL band edge, which will correct mistunings of up to a 1 or 2kHz. Together with Gpredict, this usually solves all tuning problems. Probably you already knew this. > Something that would make a good comparison easier to implement, and > that I would like to see, is a Linux version (and open source) of the > FunCube Dashboard. > > That's one of the things > I really like about the AO-85 dashboard is the cross-platform support. Same opinion here. For me it's a hassle to run the dashboard inside a virtual machine, if only because I have to feed it the audio via wav files. Between linux programs I can use pulseaudio to exchange real time audio. 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 12 17:17:06 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SatPC32ISS References: <1149340420.1298765.1471022226165.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1149340420.1298765.1471022226165@mail.yahoo.com> I bought a new PC, now running Windows 10, and trying to get everything set up once again. It's always the little things that take so much time to figure out. Perhaps someone can help with this one: I have the entry for ISS packet repeater set up in Doppler.SQF as: ISS,145825,145825,FMD,FMD,NOR,0,0,Packet When I select ISS in SatPC32, it immediately changes the frequencies of both VFOs to 145.825 and puts the rig into FM with the Digital mode indicated. When I start SatPC32ISS (which uses the same Doppler.SQF file as SatPC32), it changes the frequencies of both VFOs to 145.825 and puts the rig into FM but NOT into the Digital mode. I have to do that manually on the rig. Any thoughts? -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From aa5uk at yahoo.com Fri Aug 12 17:25:45 2016 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SatPC32ISS In-Reply-To: <1149340420.1298765.1471022226165@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1149340420.1298765.1471022226165.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1149340420.1298765.1471022226165@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1959142862.1312406.1471022745667@mail.yahoo.com> I found I have to manually put it in D mode when using SatPC32ISS and the IC-9100. Let me know if I can be of further assistance. 73, Adrian AA5UK Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: I bought a new PC, now running Windows 10, and trying to get everything set up once again. It's always the little things that take so much time to figure out. Perhaps someone can help with this one: I have the entry for ISS packet repeater set up in Doppler.SQF as: ISS,145825,145825,FMD,FMD,NOR,0,0,Packet When I select ISS in SatPC32, it immediately changes the frequencies of both VFOs to 145.825 and puts the rig into FM with the Digital mode indicated. When I start SatPC32ISS (which uses the same Doppler.SQF file as SatPC32), it changes the frequencies of both VFOs to 145.825 and puts the rig into FM but NOT into the Digital mode. I? have to do that manually on the rig. Any thoughts? -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA? EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, ? you would stay out and your dog would go in." ? ? ---Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aa5uk at yahoo.com Fri Aug 12 17:25:45 2016 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 and SatPC32ISS In-Reply-To: <1149340420.1298765.1471022226165@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1149340420.1298765.1471022226165.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1149340420.1298765.1471022226165@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1959142862.1312406.1471022745667@mail.yahoo.com> I found I have to manually put it in D mode when using SatPC32ISS and the IC-9100. Let me know if I can be of further assistance. 73, Adrian AA5UK Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: I bought a new PC, now running Windows 10, and trying to get everything set up once again. It's always the little things that take so much time to figure out. Perhaps someone can help with this one: I have the entry for ISS packet repeater set up in Doppler.SQF as: ISS,145825,145825,FMD,FMD,NOR,0,0,Packet When I select ISS in SatPC32, it immediately changes the frequencies of both VFOs to 145.825 and puts the rig into FM with the Digital mode indicated. When I start SatPC32ISS (which uses the same Doppler.SQF file as SatPC32), it changes the frequencies of both VFOs to 145.825 and puts the rig into FM but NOT into the Digital mode. I? have to do that manually on the rig. Any thoughts? -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA? EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, ? you would stay out and your dog would go in." ? ? ---Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rzar66 at gmail.com Fri Aug 12 17:36:13 2016 From: rzar66 at gmail.com (R. S.) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 10:36:13 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello all, I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am using is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have tried have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is there anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new to satellites. Thanks for you help. 73, Ryan KM6DNG From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Fri Aug 12 18:40:56 2016 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:40:56 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas Message-ID: Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now? 73, Jerry AB5R EM12kh From jimlist at zoho.com Fri Aug 12 20:36:15 2016 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 21:36:15 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Message-ID: Hi Folks I have just switched AO-73/FUNcube into full time transponder mode (Amateur Mode). As normal, plan to switch back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC Have FUN! 73s Jim G3WGM From cwo4mann at comcast.net Fri Aug 12 21:14:48 2016 From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:14:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7AEF91C1-4891-4986-8B11-5815F7521B43@comcast.net> My experience with the M2 eggbeaters left something to be desired. The 70cm antenna was deaf without a gasfet preamp. I use the 2m one as my local repeater and simplex antenna now. I've read other comments here about limitations, but I'm still not convinced circulars are a bad thing. That's about all the advice I can render. 73 Dave N4CVX Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2016, at 13:40, Gerald Payton wrote: > > Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now? > > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > > EM12kh > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kq6ea at verizon.net Fri Aug 12 21:43:41 2016 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 21:43:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Jerry I'm guessing here that you mean the "bed spring on a stick" kind of normal-mode helix antenna that you point at the bird, rather than some other *omnidirectional* helical antenna like a Quadrifilar Helix Antenna, aka "QHA" Well, I'm not really sure if they were ever "in fashion". They're pretty easy to build, pretty broadbanded, and are quite forgiving of minor errors in construction, but seeing as they have no way to switch polarization, which can be pretty handy at times, they're pretty limited. I've built a couple, one for 1.2GHz, and another for 70cm, and they work quite well for being so simple. One for 2 Meters is quite a bit bigger, and they start to get cumbersome to rotate. Other than the two I built, I've never seen an Amateur Radio version "in the wild", although I have seen numerous ones for commercial and military use. 73, Jim KQ6EA On 08/12/2016 06:40 PM, Gerald Payton wrote: > Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now? > > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > > EM12kh > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From rzar66 at gmail.com Fri Aug 12 22:01:44 2016 From: rzar66 at gmail.com (R. S.) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:01:44 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 In-Reply-To: References: <437547933.180872132.1471025164499.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Message-ID: I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17 degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just got my vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR. Ryan W6ZAR On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, wrote: > > Hello Ryan > > That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also correct the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me). > > Best 73's > > Jerry,ON4CJQ > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: "R. S." > Aan: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org > Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13 > Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85 > > Hello all, > > I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am using > is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am > 's > > adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have tried > have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still > can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is there > anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but > AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new to > satellites. Thanks for you help. > > 73, > Ryan > KM6DNG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Aug 12 22:33:43 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:33:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 In-Reply-To: References: <437547933.180872132.1471025164499.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Message-ID: It is recommended to use 200 watts EIRP to get into the sat. Someone else more knowledgeable and experienced can correct and clarify this but this is how I remember the 200 watt recommendation being explained: Before launch a connection or trace leading to the antenna broke (IIRC). The person who had the experience to resolder it wasn't available and with the little time they had left they chose to use an electrically conductive epoxy to fix it. The epoxy didn't provide the right impedence and now the antenna is essentially detuned. It makes the bird appear deaf. To overcome this you have to use more power. With that said people can get into it using 5 watts and an Arrow. I haven't been able to on the few tries I gave it. One trick that supposedly helps with cross polarized antennas like the Arrow is to twist the antenna 90 degrees when you transmit since the bird's antennas are linear. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Aug 12, 2016 6:12 PM, "R. S." wrote: > I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full > duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for > transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17 > degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just got my > vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR. > > Ryan > W6ZAR > > On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, wrote: > > > > > > Hello Ryan > > > > That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also correct > the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me). > > > > Best 73's > > > > Jerry,ON4CJQ > > > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > > Van: "R. S." > > Aan: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org > > Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13 > > Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85 > > > > Hello all, > > > > I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am using > > is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am > > 's > > > > adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have > tried > > have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still > > can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is > there > > anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but > > AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new to > > satellites. Thanks for you help. > > > > 73, > > Ryan > > KM6DNG > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n0jy at amsat.org Fri Aug 12 23:06:38 2016 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:06:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 In-Reply-To: References: <437547933.180872132.1471025164499.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1b397140-c4e3-c54a-854a-5ecc49a1bc80@amsat.org> John said it pretty well in his recollection of what I published in the Journal regarding the antenna story. The 200 watts EIRP was my recommendation simply based on my use at or near the horizon and that was stated as "for full quieting". As he said, there are folks working it with 5W and an Arrow antenna myself included, and the orientation of the satellite to your station as well as number of stations on the air have a lot to do with it. I believe that 15W will do you nicely with the Arrow, but I'll let others who have that experience speak to that. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/12/2016 17:33, John Brier wrote: > It is recommended to use 200 watts EIRP to get into the sat. > > Someone else more knowledgeable and experienced can correct and clarify > this but this is how I remember the 200 watt recommendation being explained: > > Before launch a connection or trace leading to the antenna broke (IIRC). > The person who had the experience to resolder it wasn't available and with > the little time they had left they chose to use an electrically conductive > epoxy to fix it. The epoxy didn't provide the right impedence and now the > antenna is essentially detuned. It makes the bird appear deaf. To overcome > this you have to use more power. > > With that said people can get into it using 5 watts and an Arrow. I haven't > been able to on the few tries I gave it. > > One trick that supposedly helps with cross polarized antennas like the > Arrow is to twist the antenna 90 degrees when you transmit since the bird's > antennas are linear. > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Aug 12, 2016 6:12 PM, "R. S." wrote: > >> I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full >> duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for >> transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17 >> degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just got my >> vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR. >> >> Ryan >> W6ZAR >> >> On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, wrote: >> >>> Hello Ryan >>> >>> That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also correct >> the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me). >>> Best 73's >>> >>> Jerry,ON4CJQ >>> >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >>> Van: "R. S." >>> Aan: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org >>> Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13 >>> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85 >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am using >>> is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am >>> 's >>> >>> adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have >> tried >>> have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still >>> can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is >> there >>> anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but >>> AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new to >>> satellites. Thanks for you help. >>> >>> 73, >>> Ryan >>> KM6DNG >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From rzar66 at gmail.com Fri Aug 12 23:35:56 2016 From: rzar66 at gmail.com (R. S.) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:35:56 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 In-Reply-To: <1b397140-c4e3-c54a-854a-5ecc49a1bc80@amsat.org> References: <437547933.180872132.1471025164499.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> <1b397140-c4e3-c54a-854a-5ecc49a1bc80@amsat.org> Message-ID: OK, that explains probably why AO-85 is so much more quieter than SO-50. On one pass I only heard one other person calling out and on another pass two people having a casual rag chew. On the other hand, trying to work SO-50, I can barely get my call-sign in. John KG4AKV. I stumbled upon your great Youtube videos last week. I subscribed. 73, Ryan W6ZAR On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > John said it pretty well in his recollection of what I published in the > Journal regarding the antenna story. The 200 watts EIRP was my > recommendation simply based on my use at or near the horizon and that > was stated as "for full quieting". > > As he said, there are folks working it with 5W and an Arrow antenna > myself included, and the orientation of the satellite to your station as > well as number of stations on the air have a lot to do with it. > > I believe that 15W will do you nicely with the Arrow, but I'll let > others who have that experience speak to that. > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 8/12/2016 17:33, John Brier wrote: > > It is recommended to use 200 watts EIRP to get into the sat. > > > > Someone else more knowledgeable and experienced can correct and clarify > > this but this is how I remember the 200 watt recommendation being > explained: > > > > Before launch a connection or trace leading to the antenna broke (IIRC). > > The person who had the experience to resolder it wasn't available and > with > > the little time they had left they chose to use an electrically > conductive > > epoxy to fix it. The epoxy didn't provide the right impedence and now the > > antenna is essentially detuned. It makes the bird appear deaf. To > overcome > > this you have to use more power. > > > > With that said people can get into it using 5 watts and an Arrow. I > haven't > > been able to on the few tries I gave it. > > > > One trick that supposedly helps with cross polarized antennas like the > > Arrow is to twist the antenna 90 degrees when you transmit since the > bird's > > antennas are linear. > > > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > > > On Aug 12, 2016 6:12 PM, "R. S." wrote: > > > >> I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full > >> duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for > >> transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17 > >> degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just > got my > >> vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR. > >> > >> Ryan > >> W6ZAR > >> > >> On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Ryan > >>> > >>> That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also > correct > >> the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me). > >>> Best 73's > >>> > >>> Jerry,ON4CJQ > >>> > >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > >>> Van: "R. S." > >>> Aan: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org > >>> Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13 > >>> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85 > >>> > >>> Hello all, > >>> > >>> I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am > using > >>> is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and am > >>> 's > >>> > >>> adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have > >> tried > >>> have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and still > >>> can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is > >> there > >>> anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 but > >>> AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very new > to > >>> satellites. Thanks for you help. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Ryan > >>> KM6DNG > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > >> expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Aug 12 23:49:52 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 19:49:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 In-Reply-To: References: <437547933.180872132.1471025164499.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> <1b397140-c4e3-c54a-854a-5ecc49a1bc80@amsat.org> Message-ID: Glad it helped! Thanks very much for subscribing! 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Aug 12, 2016 7:44 PM, "R. S." wrote: > OK, that explains probably why AO-85 is so much more quieter than SO-50. On > one pass I only heard one other person calling out and on another pass two > people having a casual rag chew. On the other hand, trying to work SO-50, I > can barely get my call-sign in. > > John KG4AKV. I stumbled upon your great Youtube videos last week. I > subscribed. > > 73, > Ryan > W6ZAR > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > > > John said it pretty well in his recollection of what I published in the > > Journal regarding the antenna story. The 200 watts EIRP was my > > recommendation simply based on my use at or near the horizon and that > > was stated as "for full quieting". > > > > As he said, there are folks working it with 5W and an Arrow antenna > > myself included, and the orientation of the satellite to your station as > > well as number of stations on the air have a lot to do with it. > > > > I believe that 15W will do you nicely with the Arrow, but I'll let > > others who have that experience speak to that. > > > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > > > On 8/12/2016 17:33, John Brier wrote: > > > It is recommended to use 200 watts EIRP to get into the sat. > > > > > > Someone else more knowledgeable and experienced can correct and clarify > > > this but this is how I remember the 200 watt recommendation being > > explained: > > > > > > Before launch a connection or trace leading to the antenna broke > (IIRC). > > > The person who had the experience to resolder it wasn't available and > > with > > > the little time they had left they chose to use an electrically > > conductive > > > epoxy to fix it. The epoxy didn't provide the right impedence and now > the > > > antenna is essentially detuned. It makes the bird appear deaf. To > > overcome > > > this you have to use more power. > > > > > > With that said people can get into it using 5 watts and an Arrow. I > > haven't > > > been able to on the few tries I gave it. > > > > > > One trick that supposedly helps with cross polarized antennas like the > > > Arrow is to twist the antenna 90 degrees when you transmit since the > > bird's > > > antennas are linear. > > > > > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > > > > > On Aug 12, 2016 6:12 PM, "R. S." wrote: > > > > > >> I will keep trying. I really need to get another Radio to work it full > > >> duplex so I guess I can get something with a little more power for > > >> transmit. Really strange since I just work SO-50 this morning at a 17 > > >> degree pass but cannot work AO-85 at a 89 degree pass. BTW my I just > > got my > > >> vanity call this morning. I am now W6ZAR. > > >> > > >> Ryan > > >> W6ZAR > > >> > > >> On Aug 12, 2016 11:06 AM, wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hello Ryan > > >>> > > >>> That is strange, even without pl-tone i can access the sat. Also > > correct > > >> the dwnlink, it sounds better(for me). > > >>> Best 73's > > >>> > > >>> Jerry,ON4CJQ > > >>> > > >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > > >>> Van: "R. S." > > >>> Aan: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org > > >>> Verzonden: Vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 19:36:13 > > >>> Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-85 > > >>> > > >>> Hello all, > > >>> > > >>> I am having a difficult time getting into AO-85. The equipment I am > > using > > >>> is a Kenwood TH-F6A and an Arrow antenna. I have the PL tone set and > am > > >>> 's > > >>> > > >>> adjusting for Doppler on the transmit side. The first 4 passes I have > > >> tried > > >>> have been 50 deg. or more over the horizon with one being 89 and > still > > >>> can't get in. I can hear it very clear on the passes I have tried. Is > > >> there > > >>> anything I am missing? I have successfully made a contact on SO-50 > but > > >>> AO-85 cannot hear me for whatever reason. I am a new ham and very > new > > to > > >>> satellites. Thanks for you help. > > >>> > > >>> 73, > > >>> Ryan > > >>> KM6DNG > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > >> Opinions expressed > > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > > of > > >> AMSAT-NA. > > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > >> program! > > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions > > >> expressed > > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > >> AMSAT-NA. > > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jimlist at zoho.com Sat Aug 13 08:19:26 2016 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:19:26 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <527EFE9BFD7B4FFCB0ABEED57B98A578@jimPC2> i Folks, Due to an operator error at the Ground Station, the satellite was NOT put into full time transponder mode as reported last night. I apologise. It IS now in full time transponder mode (Commanded on the last pass over Europe). Again apologies for any concerns caused. (Note to self - more speed less haste!) 73s Jim G3WGM -----Original Message----- From: Jim Heck G3WGM Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 9:36 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Hi Folks I have just switched AO-73/FUNcube into full time transponder mode (Amateur Mode). As normal, plan to switch back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC Have FUN! 73s Jim G3WGM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com Sat Aug 13 16:07:05 2016 From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com (Thomas Doyle) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:07:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help Please with Simplesat In-Reply-To: References: <6097f4c7-6dbe-085c-bfef-a1143eeec98e@mwt.net> Message-ID: ?Hi, "Tom is on this list." I have been a bit under the weather so have not been checking the list. --------------------------------------- "AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not sure why he took it out." As you know the maintenance of the AMSAT keps has been a bit hit and miss over time. Even when satellites had "crashed" they were often still on the list. The CelesTrak list had been much more reliable and up to date over the long run. ----------------------------------------- " With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option. Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include satellites launched on classified missions." You might also want to set and enforce standards for handling the upcoming problem with the fundamental nature of TLE data structure. I am sure you know that line 1 column 19 and 20 define the epoch year. This leaves only two digits for the year. The temporary fix they have put in will have an interesting problem in the future. Many tracking programs are also "locked" into the current standard and will most likely have problems when the magic date rolls around. I am sure you know the magic date is actually not that far away (as you know it is not 3000). Perhaps some sort of check list and enforcement team could be set up to keep the developers in line. ----------------------------------------- 73 W9KE Tom Doyle On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Tom is on this list. > > Edit the SatLookDown1_28\SimpleSatData\SatData\WebDataSources.txt file > and add the following line: > > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, AMSAT.txt > > Then restart the program and click web update. AMSAT keps should then > be available for selection. > > AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not > sure why he took it out. With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of > similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite > tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option. > Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include > satellites launched on classified missions. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Joe wrote: > > This program seems really interesting, but I can not get it to load all > the > > birds, > > > > http://www.tomdoyle.org/SimpleSatLookDown/SimpleSatLookDown.html > > > > Like NO-84 etc. > > > > I find it amazing that a person that makes a program, has zero way to > > contact the person. Granted it IS a free program so I can't complain, > it is > > just UG all I can see is the Celestrak info and that list does not > include > > NO-84 > > > > Anyone Help? > > > > Joe WB9SBD > > -- > > Sig > > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > > Idle Tyme > > Idle-Tyme.com > > http://www.idle-tyme.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Sent from my computer. tom ... From mikesprenger at gmail.com Sat Aug 13 16:25:40 2016 From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:25:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale - Kenwood TM-455 70cm All-Mode Message-ID: Hi, Cleaning out some things, would rather see a fellow amsat-er enjoy this radio on the Satellites I have a Kenwood TM-455 which is an all mode (FM/CW/SSB) 5/35w 70cm Rig. I've used it since around the RS- series days and the AO-13 days. This radio tunes around nicely like an HF rig. Asking $350 plus shipping to your QTH. I have the original box for this radio. There's a bit of wear on the top, looks nice, but its not museum quality, but it surewill get you on the air if you like working the satellites. No Paypal - Cashiers Check or Money Order, then I'm glad to ship. The Radio Works - Selling As-Is because I'm not interested in being scammed and have someone send me a carcass back....expecting a refund, sorry I even have to say that... For serious enquiries, I'm more than willing to provide pictures. (I don't think pictures go through the amsat-bb, I can send pictures direct) Here's the manual and info with a stock picture: http://www.rigpix.com/kenwood/tm255-455ae_manual.pdf http://www.rigpix.com/kenwood/tm455e.htm 73 Mike W4UOO -- From bruninga at usna.edu Sat Aug 13 16:49:56 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:49:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas In-Reply-To: <7AEF91C1-4891-4986-8B11-5815F7521B43@comcast.net> References: <7AEF91C1-4891-4986-8B11-5815F7521B43@comcast.net> Message-ID: Noting wrong with "circulars". Whats wrong is expecting to hear a weak signal on the horizon using no gain. Eggbeaters are great antennas that give good circular polarization at all elevation angles to cover the whole sky and are great for non-tracking ground stations listening to strong signals from space (the ISS for example). But by definition, you cannot hear "all of space above the horizon" without giving up gain everywhere. Space tracking satellites is not homogeneous. You need TEN times the gain down near the horizon compared to overhead. Any antenna designed to hear everywhere upwards equally is going to be ten times worse on the horizon where it needs gain the most. And satellites spend more than 70% of their time below something like 22 degrees. Please see: http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html Bob, WB4APR On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Dave Mann wrote: > My experience with the M2 eggbeaters left something to be desired. The > 70cm antenna was deaf without a gasfet preamp. I use the 2m one as my > local repeater and simplex antenna now. > > I've read other comments here about limitations, but I'm still not > convinced circulars are a bad thing. > > That's about all the advice I can render. > > 73 > Dave > N4CVX > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 12, 2016, at 13:40, Gerald Payton wrote: > > > > Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder > what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now? > > > > > > 73, > > > > Jerry AB5R > > > > EM12kh > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mikesprenger at gmail.com Sat Aug 13 16:53:34 2016 From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:53:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale Yaesu FT-847 Satellite Rig Message-ID: Hi, Cleaning out some things, would rather see a fellow amsat-er enjoy this radio on the Satellites I have a Yaesu FT-847 which is an all mode (FM/CW/SSB) HF through 70cm (less 220) Rig. Its not had a lot of use since I got it, which means its got little wear. Asking $950 plus shipping to your QTH. I have the original box for this radio. There's a scratch on the top next to the speaker, but even so, it looks nice, given this, its not museum quality, but it sure will get you on the air if you like working the satellites and look nice in your station. Also, it has RS-232 and is a late enough model that the RS-232 is bi-directional, which means it works fine with SatPC32, where for instance, you tune the receive dial on the radio, and SATPC then reads the downlink, calculates doppler, then sets the uplink for you. Works nicely, with 100w on 6m and HF (plus Mode A on AO-7 = uplink on 2m down on 10M) and will power mast mount preamps on 2m/70cm via the coax. No Paypal - Cashiers Check or Money Order, then I'm glad to ship. The Radio Works - Selling As-Is because I'm not interested in being scammed and have someone send me a carcass back....expecting a refund, sorry I even have to say that... For serious enquiries, I'm more than willing to provide pictures. (I don't think pictures go through the amsat-bb, I can send pictures direct) Here's the info from Yaesu's website about the radio: http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=102&encProdID=1F9F41E47B926F9590C43C638C5EFD00 73 Mike W4UOO From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Sat Aug 13 17:33:33 2016 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 17:33:33 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes Message-ID: In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually "uploading to LoTW." My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a stationary station; not portable handheld. Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what personal log program is commonly used? I normally do not use a logging program and certainly not familiar with LoTW. I looked at it on the ARRL website and it looked complicated. I really do not understand the process I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band base antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. That was encouraging. Any help will be appreciated . 73, Jerry AB5R From w7lrd at comcast.net Sat Aug 13 17:53:15 2016 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 17:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1472872739.58205465.1471110795815.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> forward this information on the bb - I can use it 73 Bob W7LRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Payton" To: "Amsat BB" Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:33:33 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually "uploading to LoTW." My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a stationary station; not portable handheld. Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what personal log program is commonly used? I normally do not use a logging program and certainly not familiar with LoTW. I looked at it on the ARRL website and it looked complicated. I really do not understand the process I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band base antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. That was encouraging. Any help will be appreciated . 73, Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kl0s at cox.net Sat Aug 13 18:07:28 2016 From: kl0s at cox.net (Dino Papas) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:07:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas In-Reply-To: References: <7AEF91C1-4891-4986-8B11-5815F7521B43@comcast.net> Message-ID: <376D34C5-01C0-4595-83E8-8256BA48689E@cox.net> We used the M2 eggbeaters as our back up ARISS antenna system; because of a technical issue at the last minute we actually ended up doing the ISS QSO on the eggbeaters vs. the tracking yagi with polarization switching, phew! With 600 some odd kids sitting behind us when the astronaut answered we were pretty relieved. Probably knocked a minute or so off the Q&A period but the audience never knew the difference. Talk about sweating bullets for a few moments! 73 - Dino KL0S > On Aug132016, at 1249 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > > Noting wrong with "circulars". Whats wrong is expecting to hear a weak > signal on the horizon using no gain. > > Eggbeaters are great antennas that give good circular polarization at all > elevation angles to cover the whole sky and are great for non-tracking > ground stations listening to strong signals from space (the ISS for > example). But by definition, you cannot hear "all of space above the > horizon" without giving up gain everywhere. > > Space tracking satellites is not homogeneous. You need TEN times the gain > down near the horizon compared to overhead. Any antenna designed to hear > everywhere upwards equally is going to be ten times worse on the horizon > where it needs gain the most. And satellites spend more than 70% of their > time below something like 22 degrees. > > Please see: http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html > > Bob, WB4APR > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Dave Mann wrote: > >> My experience with the M2 eggbeaters left something to be desired. The >> 70cm antenna was deaf without a gasfet preamp. I use the 2m one as my >> local repeater and simplex antenna now. >> >> I've read other comments here about limitations, but I'm still not >> convinced circulars are a bad thing. >> >> That's about all the advice I can render. >> >> 73 >> Dave >> N4CVX >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 12, 2016, at 13:40, Gerald Payton wrote: >>> >>> Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder >> what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now? >>> >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Jerry AB5R >>> >>> EM12kh >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Sat Aug 13 18:17:13 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 13:17:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help Please with Simplesat In-Reply-To: References: <6097f4c7-6dbe-085c-bfef-a1143eeec98e@mwt.net> Message-ID: <005dfdf1-da9c-c6cc-c467-8acd2289af44@mwt.net> I got it working, Thanks All!! Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/13/2016 11:07 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote: > ?Hi, > > "Tom is on this list." > > I have been a bit under the weather so have not been checking the list. > --------------------------------------- > > "AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not > sure why he took it out." > > As you know the maintenance of the AMSAT keps has been a bit hit and miss > over time. Even when satellites had "crashed" they were often still on the > list. The CelesTrak list had been much more reliable and up to date over > the long run. > ----------------------------------------- > > " With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of > similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite > tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option. > Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include > satellites launched on classified missions." > > You might also want to set and enforce standards for handling the upcoming > problem with the fundamental nature of TLE data structure. I am sure you > know that line 1 column 19 and 20 define the epoch year. This leaves only > two digits for the year. The temporary fix they have put in will have an > interesting problem in the future. Many tracking programs are also "locked" > into the current standard and will most likely have problems when the magic > date rolls around. I am sure you know the magic date is actually not that > far away (as you know it is not 3000). Perhaps some sort of check list and > enforcement team could be set up to keep the developers in line. > ----------------------------------------- > > 73 W9KE Tom Doyle > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> Tom is on this list. >> >> Edit the SatLookDown1_28\SimpleSatData\SatData\WebDataSources.txt file >> and add the following line: >> >> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, AMSAT.txt >> >> Then restart the program and click web update. AMSAT keps should then >> be available for selection. >> >> AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not >> sure why he took it out. With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of >> similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite >> tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option. >> Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include >> satellites launched on classified missions. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Joe wrote: >>> This program seems really interesting, but I can not get it to load all >> the >>> birds, >>> >>> http://www.tomdoyle.org/SimpleSatLookDown/SimpleSatLookDown.html >>> >>> Like NO-84 etc. >>> >>> I find it amazing that a person that makes a program, has zero way to >>> contact the person. Granted it IS a free program so I can't complain, >> it is >>> just UG all I can see is the Celestrak info and that list does not >> include >>> NO-84 >>> >>> Anyone Help? >>> >>> Joe WB9SBD >>> -- >>> Sig >>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >>> Idle Tyme >>> Idle-Tyme.com >>> http://www.idle-tyme.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com Sat Aug 13 20:20:46 2016 From: lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com (Lee Ernstrom) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:20:46 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Starcom-bb] VE2BMC & MORE! In-Reply-To: <57AF0F67.8040209@k4feg.com> References: <57AF0F67.8040209@k4feg.com> Message-ID: Jimmy, you would be extremely popular working meteor scatter -- reflecting your signal off the ionized trail of a burning meteor. Also, the target is much easier to hit than a satellite as a passive reflector. Check out pingjockey. Doc, WA7HQD On Aug 13, 2016 6:18 AM, "K4FEG" wrote: > Hello All: > > below you will see the body of an email from *Jimmy, VE2BMC/KK6FAH*, > about his recent operations on SO-50 from his location in Canada. Jimmy is > an EME operator who through some encouragement fro W2HRO, decided to try > some satellite passes while back in Canada, with Jimmy's permission here is > the email: > > *"Hi Frank,* > > *I hope all I well! Actually, thanks to YOU for all your help and for > passing on the message to the community. Ironically, since I am new with > Satellite communications and have not been following the > corresponding mailing lists, etc., I really had no clue that so many people > would have an interest in trying to contact me in these grids. I > had brought my HT and Arrow antenna with me with the hope of making "one" > contact with my EME friend W2HRO and perhaps a few other QSO's if lucky as > time permits. What unfolded was completely unexpected and on top of that, I > got infected by the virus! Now I have 2 viruses to manage (EME and Sat). > That won't make my wife happy... Hi Hi* > > *Since all my relatives are all living in VE2 territory and they are > located at the edged where the grids meet (FN38, FN48 and FN37), at my next > trip I will be able to activate FN37 easily (only 25 minutes south from my > father near "Lac Bouchette"), spend more time in FN48 where my mother > lives, and even more time in FN38 where my brother lives. Should be much > fun. * > > *On a related note, as I am specialized in EME communications and after my > recent experience in VE2 territory with Satellite, the thought came to > me that since it is possible to do 2-way communications by bouncing RF off > the surface of the Moon, it should be possible and much easier to use > satellites as "passive reflector" (just like the moon) in order to make > QSO's. The obvious advantage is that this would not require for the > satellite to have any repeater or transponder on them, but their simple > presence in the sky is sufficient. * > > *This communication scheme would open a tremendous amount of possibilities > for Amateur QSO's. Have you ever heard of any people attempting this? I > have recently read a few articles on the matter on the net indicating that > it was possible and some had gotten clear signals using space stations (ISS > and MIR) as reflectors, but there does not seem to be any organized group > of people that have attempted this in an organized way to make QSO's.* > > *I am certainly interested in investigating this further and try. May be > some in the mailing list would have inputs or experiences to share on the > matter. Again, I have been able to make EME QSO's with very small stations > relatively speaking (~8000 watts EIRP) so satellite reflection should be > much easier and accessible to relatively small stations.* > > *Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you soon,* > > *73, Jimmy* > > > *KK6FAH" *If anyone has thoughts about some of Jimmy's interesting ideas > about "passive" satellite operations I think it would be a great discussion. > > I want to say a special thanks to Canada for all of the great "Canadien > DX" operations & for the hospitality provided to the "American Invasion" of > operators who have been active over the last two weeks. > *VE2BMC, Jimmy*: FN38 & FN48 operations (rare grids) > *N9IP/VE/VY/VO1&2*: GN38/GN19/GN18/GN07/GN08/GN09/ > GO10/GO11/GO21/FN96/FN86/FN75/FN76 > *(I MAY HAVE MISSED SOME) **NJ7H/FP/VO1/VY2: *GN16/GN17/GN27/GN37/FN86 > > *(I have probably missed some of Gabe's grids as well, I gotta sleep > sometime!) *And we now have *Ron, N8RO* out on his trip to Western > Canada, Ron has already been on the satellites during this trip, A reminder > that Ron is traveling from "point-to-point" he is not pulling a travel > trailer, so he has less opportunity for deviations during this trip. LISTEN > LISTEN LISTEN!! > > Lately it has been a good time to be on the satellites, DX, new operators, > aeronautical grid hopping, camping "rovers" & much, much more!! > EXCITING TIMES! > And one more thing: There is MUCH MORE to come this year!! > > I hope all are enjoying the satellites. > *Good Luck All & Good SatDX!!* > *73* > *K4FEG* > > _______________________________________________ > Starcom-bb bulletin board > Starcom-bb at star-com.net > http://lists.star-com.net/listinfo/starcom-bb > > From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat Aug 13 20:25:33 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 20:25:33 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/13/16, Gerald Payton wrote: > In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have > noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually "uploading > to LoTW." > > > My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a > digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a > stationary station; not portable handheld. Since I use a boom mike headset for my main satellite radio, I plug a splitter into the audio output. One branch is connected to my headphones and the other one to a portable digital audio recorder using a patch cord and a stereo-to-mono adaptor. Before I start recording, I make sure to mention what the time is so that I can note it in my log when I play it back later on. I usually have a spare set of batteries on hand, just in case. I started doing that early on after I was the centre of attention for a satellite pile-up and I couldn't jot down all the necessary details fast enough. I'm sure I missed a few good contacts because of that. > > > Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what > personal log program is commonly used? I created a database and keep all my contact information there. Whenever I'm ready to submit something to LOTW, I take a few minutes to edit it and create the files I need. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From seb at wintek.com Sat Aug 13 20:33:47 2016 From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen E. Belter) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 20:33:47 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Logging and Recording Passes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jerry, For recording, common devices and techniques include: >(1) Digital handheld recorder, for example, a Sony ICD-PX820 with cable >and Y-adapter connected to the headphone jack (this is what I use) >(2) Smartphone >(3) Audio recording application on a personal computer >(4) Built-in recorder on a Software Defined Radio (SDR) application like >HDSDR, SDR#, or SDR-Console, either audio or IQ recording > >For logging, common approaches are: >(1) Computer logging program, for example, Amateur Contact Log (or >ACLog), see www.n3fjp.com (this is what I use). ACLog supports uploading >to LoTW. See the LoTW help page on the n3fjp.com site. >(2) Paper log, then transcribing it directly into LoTW on the ARRL >website. > >Getting LoTW setup isn?t trivial, but the rewards for doing so are >significant. For example, getting confirmation of a QSO in a few hours >(sometimes less) vs. a week or more to trade QSL cards and then having >those cards checked at a hamfest. > >Hope this helps. > >73, Steve N9IP >-- >Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com > > > >On 8/13/16, 2:33 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Gerald Payton" > wrote: > >>In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have >>noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually >>"uploading to LoTW." >> >> >>My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: >>a digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will >>have a stationary station; not portable handheld. >> >> >>Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, >>what personal log program is commonly used? >> >> >>I normally do not use a logging program and certainly not familiar with >>LoTW. I looked at it on the ARRL website and it looked complicated. I >>really do not understand the process >> >> >>I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band >>base antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. >>That was encouraging. >> >> >>Any help will be appreciated . >> >> >>73, >> >>Jerry AB5R >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>Opinions expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wd4elg at triad.rr.com Sat Aug 13 20:49:50 2016 From: wd4elg at triad.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:49:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Still cannot receive NO-84 Message-ID: <000601d1f5a4$3cb82dc0$b6288940$@rr.com> 2046 UTC, the bird went directly overhead. I was in listen-only mode. All I saw was (for the first 5 minutes of the pass) a series of lines which showed Doppler, almost like a yard rake was dragging at an angle across the screen. What SHOULD I see? Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com From nss at mwt.net Sat Aug 13 20:56:27 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 15:56:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Still cannot receive NO-84 In-Reply-To: <000601d1f5a4$3cb82dc0$b6288940$@rr.com> References: <000601d1f5a4$3cb82dc0$b6288940$@rr.com> Message-ID: One thing I learned about this cool bird is you cant always just lurk and listen only. Because if no one is transmitting on 10 meters a PSK signal, the 70 cm transmitter stays shut down and you won't hear anything. To hear anything on this bird someone must be transmitting a PSK signal on 10 Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/13/2016 3:49 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: > 2046 UTC, the bird went directly overhead. I was in listen-only mode. All > I saw was (for the first 5 minutes of the pass) a series of lines which > showed Doppler, almost like a yard rake was dragging at an angle across the > screen. > > What SHOULD I see? > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > Greensboro, NC FM06be > wd4elg at arrl.net > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 13 21:17:49 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 21:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter References: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> I know that a number of folks are using virtual serial port splitters to allow both a logging program and SatPC32 to simultaneously talk to their rig via CAT or CI-V. I had such a system working quite nicely on my old Windows 7 32-bit computer, using a little freeware program called XPort. Recently I switched to a new Windows 10 64-bit computer. Since XPort is 32-bit only, I purchased the 64-bit version of VSPE from www.eterlogic.com. This program works fine creating a virtual serial port "pair" within the computer. When I try to set up a splitter, the first program to start (such as ACLog) talks with the rig fine on the virtual port. But as soon as I start another program on the splitter port (such as SatPC32), the first program stops exchanging data with the rig (IC-9100) and the second program has all the fun. SatPC32 seems to punch through and lock out any other programs. Eterlogic has not gotten back to me. If anyone has successfully set up a working splitter in 64-bit VSPE I'd like to know what your settings are. Thanks.-- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From kc5qbc at swbell.net Sat Aug 13 21:36:09 2016 From: kc5qbc at swbell.net (Floyd Rodgers) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:36:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter In-Reply-To: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> References: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0d0050ce-a6e4-b426-fef3-d9de4ab58743@swbell.net> Does Xport32 not run under win10? Just asking here because I have not tried it yet... On 8/13/2016 4:17 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I know that a number of folks are using virtual serial port splitters to allow both a logging program and SatPC32 to simultaneously talk to their rig via CAT or CI-V. I had such a system working quite nicely on my old Windows 7 32-bit computer, using a little freeware program called XPort. > > Recently I switched to a new Windows 10 64-bit computer. Since XPort is 32-bit only, I purchased the 64-bit version of VSPE from www.eterlogic.com. This program works fine creating a virtual serial port "pair" within the computer. When I try to set up a splitter, the first program to start (such as ACLog) talks with the rig fine on the virtual port. But as soon as I start another program on the splitter port (such as SatPC32), the first program stops exchanging data with the rig (IC-9100) and the second program has all the fun. SatPC32 seems to punch through and lock out any other programs. Eterlogic has not gotten back to me. > > If anyone has successfully set up a working splitter in 64-bit VSPE I'd like to know what your settings are. Thanks.-- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, > you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 13 21:54:36 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 21:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter In-Reply-To: <0d0050ce-a6e4-b426-fef3-d9de4ab58743@swbell.net> References: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> <0d0050ce-a6e4-b426-fef3-d9de4ab58743@swbell.net> Message-ID: <397092599.1837733.1471125276732@mail.yahoo.com> > Does Xport32 not run under win10? Just asking here because I have not > tried it yet... Only if you have a 32-bit machine. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From skristof at etczone.com Sat Aug 13 22:21:27 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 18:21:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My experience is rather limited, but I'll gladly share. My set-up for SO-50 is two Baofeng HTs, an Arrow Antenna and an Olympus digital voice recorder with a plug-in microphone. I have a lanyard from which I hang the receiving HT. Just above the HT I clip on the external microphone so it picks up the audio from the HT. It's not a perfect system, and I'm sure I make quite the sight for the neighbors when I'm out in my backyard pointing my antenna at "nothing" in the air, but it works. After the pass, I listen to the QSOs through my computer (the voice recorder has a USB plug) and just jot them down. I use a homemade spreadsheet for my satellite QSO log. Nothing automatic. I agree that getting certified, or whatever it's called, for LoTW is a bit of a hassle, but I think that once you done it, you find that it's worth it. A LOT of QSLs are taken care of through LoTW. I still exchange cards with anyone that wants one, but I have lot more QSLs on LoTW than I have QSL cards. Once you are confirmed through the LoTW system, the tQSL program you use to upload QSOs isn't that complicated. I do them individually by hand, but I believe that the LoTW system will take whole logs if they are in the correct format. Someone else will have to speak to that part of the system. Anyway, LotW is a hassle to get started, but not so bad and worth it (in my opinion) once you've got it started. Steve AI9IN On 2016-08-13 13:33, Gerald Payton wrote: > In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually "uploading to LoTW." > > My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a stationary station; not portable handheld. > > Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what personal log program is commonly used? > > I normally do not use a logging program and certainly not familiar with LoTW. I looked at it on the ARRL website and it looked complicated. I really do not understand the process > > I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band base antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. That was encouraging. > > Any help will be appreciated . > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 14 01:38:58 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 01:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter In-Reply-To: <000001d1f5c9$0a3da9e0$1eb8fda0$@w0dhb.net> References: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d1f5c9$0a3da9e0$1eb8fda0$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: <1070416928.1906904.1471138738128@mail.yahoo.com> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Hi, Dave. Good QSO from this end, too. I've set it up exactly as you describe, and my properties look exactly like your screen shots (with the exception of different COM numbers), but it doesn't work. ACLog stops seeing data as soon as SatPC32 is started, and Icom Keyer won't work through it at all. And if SatPC32 is getting confused by the other programs, that doesn't appear to be as it should be, either. In other programs, such as XPort, a unique COM number is given to each additional program, and the isolation is complete. So if the rig is on COM33, SatPC32 might be on COM3, ACLog on COM4, Icom Keyer on COM5, etc. -- but they are all actually talking to COM33 in the hardware. I think VSPE may not be up to the task. But the only other programs out there sell for $100 and up! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Saturday, August 13, 2016, 20:13, David W0DHB wrote: -- _filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}span.PlainTextChar {}.MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}div.WordSection1 {} Hi Mark ? Nice to QSO with you. ? I've been using VSPE 64bit splitters years. They are a little tricky to set up and get going. ? In this case I create a connector COM33 (Could also be a hardware port) And a splitter ? I set my rig to use COM33 for ?CAT All programs that you want to access the rig CAT should open COM3. ? Note that SATPC32 may not work properly if any other input on the splitter is send CAT data . ? Hope this helps. ? Dave W0DHB ? ? -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 15:18 To: yahoogroups Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter ? I know that a number of folks are using virtual serial port splitters to allow both a logging program and SatPC32 to simultaneously talk to their rig via CAT or CI-V. I had such a system working quite nicely on my old Windows 7 32-bit computer, using a little freeware program called XPort. ? Recently I switched to a new Windows 10 64-bit computer. Since XPort is 32-bit only, I purchased the 64-bit version of VSPE from www.eterlogic.com. This program works fine creating a virtual serial port "pair" within the computer. When I try to set up a splitter, the first program to start (such as ACLog) talks with the rig fine on the virtual port. But as soon as I start another program on the splitter port (such as SatPC32), the first program stops exchanging data with the rig (IC-9100) and the second program has all the fun. SatPC32 seems to punch through and lock out any other programs. Eterlogic has not gotten back to me. ? If anyone has successfully set up a working splitter in 64-bit VSPE I'd like to know what your settings are. Thanks.-- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA? EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, ???you would stay out and your dog would go in." ?????---Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kq6ea at verizon.net Sun Aug 14 01:59:56 2016 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 01:59:56 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter In-Reply-To: <1070416928.1906904.1471138738128@mail.yahoo.com> References: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d1f5c9$0a3da9e0$1eb8fda0$@w0dhb.net> <1070416928.1906904.1471138738128@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <22f7a25c-bbf9-9106-2219-a4dfa06290c3@verizon.net> I fought with issues like this on the station PC down at NI6BB. I *never* got things to share the com port until I used LBP2, which is a similar bridge program. Id just about given up, and thought I'd give it one last try after I installed the LP=PAN panadaptor for our ancient Kenwood TS-850. Fo;;owing the instructions, I had port sharing between the panadptor (it uses PowerSDR), FLDIGI, and ACLog. Give it a try, it's free. http://www.telepostinc.com/LPB2.html 73, Jim KQ6EA On 08/14/2016 01:38 AM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: > blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Hi, Dave. Good QSO from this end, too. > I've set it up exactly as you describe, and my properties look exactly like your screen shots (with the exception of different COM numbers), but it doesn't work. ACLog stops seeing data as soon as SatPC32 is started, and Icom Keyer won't work through it at all. > And if SatPC32 is getting confused by the other programs, that doesn't appear to be as it should be, either. > In other programs, such as XPort, a unique COM number is given to each additional program, and the isolation is complete. So if the rig is on COM33, SatPC32 might be on COM3, ACLog on COM4, Icom Keyer on COM5, etc. -- but they are all actually talking to COM33 in the hardware. > I think VSPE may not be up to the task. But the only other programs out there sell for $100 and up! > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad > > > On Saturday, August 13, 2016, 20:13, David W0DHB wrote: > > -- _filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}span.PlainTextChar {}.MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}div.WordSection1 {} > Hi Mark > > > > Nice to QSO with you. > > > > I've been using VSPE 64bit splitters years. > > They are a little tricky to set up and get going. > > > > > > In this case I create a connector COM33 (Could also be a hardware port) > > And a splitter > > > > > > I set my rig to use COM33 for CAT > > All programs that you want to access the rig CAT should open COM3. > > > > Note that SATPC32 may not work properly if any other input on the splitter is send CAT data . > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Dave W0DHB > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 15:18 > To: yahoogroups > Cc: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter > > > > I know that a number of folks are using virtual serial port splitters to allow both a logging program and SatPC32 to simultaneously talk to their rig via CAT or CI-V. I had such a system working quite nicely on my old Windows 7 32-bit computer, using a little freeware program called XPort. > > > > Recently I switched to a new Windows 10 64-bit computer. Since XPort is 32-bit only, I purchased the 64-bit version of VSPE from www.eterlogic.com. This program works fine creating a virtual serial port "pair" within the computer. When I try to set up a splitter, the first program to start (such as ACLog) talks with the rig fine on the virtual port. But as soon as I start another program on the splitter port (such as SatPC32), the first program stops exchanging data with the rig (IC-9100) and the second program has all the fun. SatPC32 seems to punch through and lock out any other programs. Eterlogic has not gotten back to me. > > > > If anyone has successfully set up a working splitter in 64-bit VSPE I'd like to know what your settings are. Thanks.-- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > > ----------------------------------------------- > > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, > > you would stay out and your dog would go in." > > ---Mark Twain > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ku4os at cfl.rr.com Sun Aug 14 07:37:33 2016 From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 03:37:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-227 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <535dd2fb-09d4-7a4e-e26d-1ab4e8d0fd5f@cfl.rr.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-227 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Special Callsigns From Brazil During Olympic Games * Satellite DX News * Receive Pictures from Space ? ISS SSTV August 15-16 * July/August AMSAT Journal in the Mail * AMSAT-SA Partnership Announced to Develop QB50 nSight-1 Groundstation * P4A Es'hailSat Geostationary Satellite Launch Re-Scheduled SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-227.01 ANS-227 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 227.01 From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD. August 14, 2016 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-227.01 Special Callsigns From Brazil During Olympic Games Members of the Liga de Amadores Brasileiros de Radio Emissao (LABRE) will be active with the special call ZV2016RIO from Rio de Janeiro between Aug. 5 and 21. QRV on 160-2m (except 30m) on CW, SSB, FM, PSK, and D-Star, as well as via satellites. QSL via PY1AA. Henrique/PP5NY operates with the call PX2016RIO in the context of the Olympic Games on HF (CW only). QSL via PP5NY (d/B), LoTW. The following special event calls will also be active while the Games run: ZV8R, ZV8I, ZV8O, ZV8D, ZV8E, ZV8J, ZV8A, and ZV8WN. QSOs count towards the award RIO 2016. QSL via bureau, ClubLog. See: http://www.labre-rr.org/olimpiadasrio2016.html [ANS thanks DXNL 2000 - August 3, 2016 DX Newsletter which is a free and weekly service of DARC Committee "DX and HF contesting". It is noted that this 2000th issue of the DX Newsletter reflects continuous coverage over 62 years. Congratulations, thank you, and 73] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite DX News CY9C ST. PAUL ISLAND DXPEDITION (Update, dated August 2nd). Randy, N0TG, reports on the upcoming CY9C operation for August 19-29th [edited]: The CY9C DXpedition team is very busy with last minute details and packing. All equipment will begin the journey to our take off point in Nova Scotia, August 13-14th. We plan to be partially on the air on 19th August and fully operational 20th August. The home page of our website has a link for those who desire to check the log. Log data will be posted LIVE. We will be using ClubLog and OQRS. Direct QSL via WA4DAN. Activating 60m for the first time from St. Paul is exciting for the team. And, while conditions will be a challenge for 160m, the team is energized to give it a serious effort. Also, be assured we will pay attention to the long and/or difficult propagation paths on all bands when conditions are workable. We look forward to working not only the more common bands CW/SSB/RTTY, but also 6m, 2m EME and Satellite. We appreciate the donations and support by many. Even now in these last days, support is most helpful and appreciated. Our sincere thanks to all interested and following this DXpedition. We look forward to working you. Thank you. The WEB site: http://www.CY9DXpedition.com (Update, dated August 2nd). Randy, N0TG, reports: First cargo ship- ment packed and ready to go. Shipment from NY to northern tip of Nova Scotia is scheduled for Aug 11th. Next shipment will be from Ohio/Indiana and will ship August 13th. Destination is the take off-point - Dingwall, Nova Scotia. Team members will arrive in Dingwall between August 14-17th. Early arrivals will begin preparation for final transport to the island. SATELLITE GRIDS ROAD TRIP. Ron, N8RO, reports that he "will start a road trip on Thursday, August 11th. The trip will head north to OK, KS, NE, SD, ND and SK. We will then head west on the Trans Canadian Highway to AB & BC. From BC we will go to WA, MT, WY, CO and then work our way home to TX on Friday, August 26th. While the trip is primarily a vacation, I will attempt to make satellite contacts, hopefully one or two a day, on XW-2C, AO-85, SO-50 and FO-29 along the way. Possible grid activations include: EM03/04, EN00/01, EN04/05, DN88/89, DO50/60, DO11/21, CO90, CN99, CN78/88, CN97/96, DN36/37, DN75/76, DN71 and DM95. I hope to contact many of you during this trip." [ANS thanks the Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1277 for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive Pictures from Space ? ISS SSTV August 15-16 The ARRL reports Slow-scan television (SSTV) transmissions will be made from the International Space Station (ISS) on August 15-16, 2016. The MAI-75 Experiment will transmit SSTV images on 145.800 MHz FM over the course of a few orbits as the space station passes over Moscow. Operators in Europe and South America will have the best chances to receive images. Operators along the US East Coast may have one chance on August 16. Thanks to Kenneth Ransom, N5VHO, ISS Ham Project Coordinator [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- July/August AMSAT Journal in the Mail The July/August 2016 issue of The AMSAT Journal has gone to press and should be arriving in member's mailboxes soon. In this issue: * Apogee View by Barry Baines, WD4ASW * Engineering Update by Jerry Buxton, N0JY * Member Footprints by Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV * AMSAT Field Day Results by Bruce Paige, KK5DO * Digital Microwave Communications in Amateur Radio Satellites by Michelle Thompson, W5NYV and Robert McGwier, N4HY * QRV from PJ2 by Michael Lipp, HB9WDF * Protecting Satellites and Ground Stations from EMP and CME by Joe Kornowski, KB6IGK * Aboard the Queen Mary, W6RO, on AO-7 by Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK * Big Science / Amateur Budget by Eric Nichols, KL7AJ * Goodbye to a Good Man and Former AMSAT President by Robert McGwier, N4HY [ANS thanks Paul, N8HM, for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-SA Partnership Announced to Develop QB50 nSight-1 Groundstation SCS Space (a subsidiary of the privately owned South African SCS Aerospace group) partnered with AMSAT SA to assist with internationally distributed ground station facilities for their up and coming QB50 satellite, "nSight-1". The use of multiple ground stations will multiply the downloaded science and imagery (32 m resolution) data generated by the satellite. QB50 is a constellation of 50 CubeSats that will be launched into a low earth orbit to study the earth's lower thermosphere. QB50 will provide multi-point, in-situ measurements. Each satellite will carry one of three science sensors that will generate data that must be downloaded to the ground daily. This is a unique opportunity for Radio Amateurs in South Africa to participate in an interesting satellite project. To participate please send details of your station, such as transceiver and antennas available as well as your location to saamsat at intekom.co.za. The next step will be to participate in a briefing session that will be conducted on Skype in two weeks' time. More details on www.amsatsa.org.za. ----- AMSAT-SA SDR Development Conversation The next AMSAT SDR Conversation takes place on Wednesday 24 August. The second AMSAT SDR Conversation was held last Wednesday when a basic mind-map to develop a SDR transponder was proposed and discussed. During the next two weeks, the participants will populate the mind-map, which will be discussed at the next SDR Conversation on Wednesday 24 August. For more information and how to take part in the conversation, visit www.amsatsa.org.za. [ANS thanks the South African Radio League News for Sunday 14 August 2016 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- P4A Es'hailSat Geostationary Satellite Launch Re-Scheduled AMSAT Deutschland reported that the P-4A transponder on the Es'hail-2 is re-scheduled for launch in Q3 2017. Peter Guelzow, DB2OS, wrote, "We have been informed by Es'hailSat Qatar Satellite company, that the launch of Es'hail-2 with the first P4-A geostationary amateur radio transponder is shifted to Q3/2017." [ANS thanks AMSAT-DL for the above information] /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Lee McLamb, KU4OS ku4os at amsat dot org From daniel at destevez.net Sun Aug 14 10:00:12 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 12:00:12 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Starcom-bb] VE2BMC & MORE! In-Reply-To: References: <57AF0F67.8040209@k4feg.com> Message-ID: <18713c58-08f9-e42e-db68-19f94f7f6643@destevez.net> >> *I am certainly interested in investigating this further and try. May be >> some in the mailing list would have inputs or experiences to share on the >> matter. Again, I have been able to make EME QSO's with very small stations >> relatively speaking (~8000 watts EIRP) so satellite reflection should be >> much easier and accessible to relatively small stations.* Actually, satellite bounce seems to be much more difficult than EME. While there have being several reports of ISS bounce, as far as I know using a (smaller) satellite to bounce off and achieve a QSO has only being done once: http://www.dj5ar.de/?p=2182 This was done by 23cm stations well equipped for EME, one of them PI9CAM using the 25m dish in Dwingeloo. The path loss for satellite bounce is much better than for EME (-140dB or so versus -271dB for EME in 23cm). The challenge is in pointing the dishes, tracking Doppler (+/-30kHz during the pass) and the fact that the radar equation considers only ideal conditions and in reality the signals are much weaker and have QSB. 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From plaws0 at gmail.com Sun Aug 14 15:19:03 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 10:19:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gerald Payton wrote: > > > My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a stationary station; not portable handheld. I use my iphone. I tried to use the recorder built in to my ID-51A+ and quickly realized that it only records when I hit the PTT. > Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what personal log program is commonly used? I use DXKeeper. Free. Records all relevant data. Once TQSL is configured, it will handle all LOTW functions. Directions here for getting started. As Dave, AA6YQ, the author of the DXLab Suite of programs that includes DXKeeper is one of the ones that rescued LOTW from oblivion a few years back, much of this info is now on the LOTW site. None of the directions here are intertwined with using DXKeeper but there are links to teach you how to do so: http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/SettingUpLotW > I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band base antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. That was encouraging. There is nothing between you and the satellites, usually, so signals are always strong on the LEOs. -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From daniel at destevez.net Sun Aug 14 15:43:49 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:43:49 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Starcom-bb] VE2BMC & MORE! In-Reply-To: <18713c58-08f9-e42e-db68-19f94f7f6643@destevez.net> References: <57AF0F67.8040209@k4feg.com> <18713c58-08f9-e42e-db68-19f94f7f6643@destevez.net> Message-ID: <33879187-472b-e900-2f22-80300547cf2f@destevez.net> El 14/08/16 a las 12:00, Dani EA4GPZ escribi?: > The path loss for satellite bounce is much better than for EME (-140dB > or so versus -271dB for EME in 23cm). Correction: I had read incorrectly the data in http://www.dj5ar.de/?p=1862 The path loss for satellite bounce in 23cm is -254dB. From mr.soup12 at gmail.com Sun Aug 14 20:00:30 2016 From: mr.soup12 at gmail.com (Oliver Krystal) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:00:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f167365-7e53-fb82-69d7-6531cb7fd95a@gmail.com> I use a headphone splitter through the handset and pass it into this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BY4M7VU/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Good audio, comes with an audio cable. Only records what comes through your headphones, but then again I know who I am and where I am. Sorry Peter, hit the wrong reply button. On 08/14/2016 10:19 AM, Peter Laws wrote: > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Gerald Payton wrote: >> >> >> My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a stationary station; not portable handheld. > > I use my iphone. I tried to use the recorder built in to my ID-51A+ > and quickly realized that it only records when I hit the PTT. > >> Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what personal log program is commonly used? > > I use DXKeeper. Free. Records all relevant data. Once TQSL is > configured, it will handle all LOTW functions. > Directions here for getting started. As Dave, AA6YQ, the author of > the DXLab Suite of programs that includes DXKeeper is one of the ones > that rescued LOTW from oblivion a few years back, much of this info is > now on the LOTW site. None of the directions here are intertwined > with using DXKeeper but there are links to teach you how to do so: > http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/SettingUpLotW > > >> I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band base antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. That was encouraging. > > There is nothing between you and the satellites, usually, so signals > are always strong on the LEOs. > > > > From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 14 22:11:06 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter In-Reply-To: <22f7a25c-bbf9-9106-2219-a4dfa06290c3@verizon.net> References: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d1f5c9$0a3da9e0$1eb8fda0$@w0dhb.net> <1070416928.1906904.1471138738128@mail.yahoo.com> <22f7a25c-bbf9-9106-2219-a4dfa06290c3@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1682992327.2161834.1471212666043@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Jim. I will definitely look into this! PBP2 says it uses Eltima drivers, and that's a good sign because of today's experiment. FWIW, I tried today with the Eltima Serial Port Splitter, (http://www.eltima.com/products/serialsplitter/) and after a little messing around, I got the whole thing to work pretty well. There are two problems, however: 1) Eltima does splits, but doesn't do pairs. So to do APRS through the ISS, I needed to use VSPE to create a pair, and Eltima to do the split, running both programs at the same time. 2) Eltima wants $99.95 USD for their software, so I'll likely not be able to continue this setup after the 14-day free trial expires. Also, you can't save configurations in the free trial, so the whole thing needs to be set up from scratch each time. I think if you pay the fee that problem goes away.-- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Jerzycke To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter I fought with issues like this on the station PC down at NI6BB. I *never* got things to share the com port until I used LBP2, which is a similar bridge program. Id just about given up, and thought I'd give it one last try after I installed the LP=PAN panadaptor for our ancient Kenwood TS-850. Fo;;owing the instructions, I had port sharing between the panadptor (it uses PowerSDR), FLDIGI, and ACLog. Give it a try, it's free. http://www.telepostinc.com/LPB2.html 73, Jim KQ6EA From kq6ea at verizon.net Sun Aug 14 22:34:46 2016 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:34:46 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter In-Reply-To: <1682992327.2161834.1471212666043@mail.yahoo.com> References: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d1f5c9$0a3da9e0$1eb8fda0$@w0dhb.net> <1070416928.1906904.1471138738128@mail.yahoo.com> <22f7a25c-bbf9-9106-2219-a4dfa06290c3@verizon.net> <1682992327.2161834.1471212666043@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53c08731-2fc6-d756-39da-3cdba0fd8fd9@verizon.net> I paid for one of the versions I tried at NI6BB. The 32-bit was free, but because they had to pay Micro$oft a fee to get it "approved" for installations with 64-bit systems, they had to charge to use it. I don't remember who I bought it from, or what I paid, but it was money down the drain, as it didn't work, either. After I installed the LP-PAN, I decided to give the LPB2 software a shot, as it was annoying to NOT see the correct frequency being displayed in FLDIGI. Once that was working, I then created another virtual port to use with AClog, and I was pleasantly surprised that all the applications played nice with each other and the radio. We're using a USB-to-serial converter to connect to the radio. It has a NON Prolific chipset in it, as I'm really tired of fighting with the counterfeit Prolific stuff that's flooding the market. As soon as Windows Update would "update" the Prolific drivers, the cables would stop working if they didn't have a genuine Prolific chipset in them, forcing me to roll back the drivers. This is a major problem with all the cables people buy to program their Baofeng HT's, and ALL of the Hams on the Iowa have a Baofeng that I program for them using MY cable and Chirp. Haven't tried any APRS through the ISS. The last time I did it I used my Kenwood TH-D72, and just bounced packets through it using the antenna on the HT. 73, Jim On 08/14/2016 10:11 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Thanks, Jim. I will definitely look into this! PBP2 says it uses Eltima drivers, and that's a good sign because of today's experiment. > > FWIW, I tried today with the Eltima Serial Port Splitter, (http://www.eltima.com/products/serialsplitter/) and after a little messing around, I got the whole thing to work pretty well. There are two problems, however: > > 1) Eltima does splits, but doesn't do pairs. So to do APRS through the ISS, I needed to use VSPE to create a pair, and Eltima to do the split, running both programs at the same time. > > 2) Eltima wants $99.95 USD for their software, so I'll likely not be able to continue this setup after the 14-day free trial expires. Also, you can't save configurations in the free trial, so the whole thing needs to be set up from scratch each time. I think if you pay the fee that problem goes away.-- > > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, > you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Jerzycke > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter > > I fought with issues like this on the station PC down at NI6BB. > > > I *never* got things to share the com port until I used LBP2, which is a > similar bridge program. > > > Id just about given up, and thought I'd give it one last try after I > installed the LP=PAN panadaptor for our ancient Kenwood TS-850. > > > Fo;;owing the instructions, I had port sharing between the panadptor (it > uses PowerSDR), FLDIGI, and ACLog. > > > Give it a try, it's free. > > > http://www.telepostinc.com/LPB2.html > > > 73, Jim KQ6EA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wd4elg at triad.rr.com Mon Aug 15 00:43:55 2016 From: wd4elg at triad.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:43:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Still cannot receive NO-84 Message-ID: <006001d1f68e$1ac56cb0$50504610$@rr.com> OK, I think I may have solved the mystery. I am seeing multi-channel PSK during the pass. Why someone would use multi-channel PSK is a mystery to me, but it looks like 9 channels. Anyone seen that before? Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com _____________________________________________ From: Mark Lunday [mailto:wd4elg at triad.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 4:50 PM To: 'Mark Lunday'; 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' Subject: Still cannot receive NO-84 2046 UTC, the bird went directly overhead. I was in listen-only mode. All I saw was (for the first 5 minutes of the pass) a series of lines which showed Doppler, almost like a yard rake was dragging at an angle across the screen. What SHOULD I see? Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com From scott23192 at gmail.com Mon Aug 15 01:04:50 2016 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:04:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Still cannot receive NO-84 In-Reply-To: <006001d1f68e$1ac56cb0$50504610$@rr.com> References: <006001d1f68e$1ac56cb0$50504610$@rr.com> Message-ID: <144F1B9A65C2456189DAA370EACED1EE@CSI9020> Forgive me if I missed it on an earlier post, Mark, but what frequency are you listening on? -Scott, K4KDR Montpelier, VA USA ============================= -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lunday Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 8:43 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Still cannot receive NO-84 OK, I think I may have solved the mystery. I am seeing multi-channel PSK during the pass. Why someone would use multi-channel PSK is a mystery to me, but it looks like 9 channels. Anyone seen that before? Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com _____________________________________________ From: Mark Lunday [mailto:wd4elg at triad.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 4:50 PM To: 'Mark Lunday'; 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' Subject: Still cannot receive NO-84 2046 UTC, the bird went directly overhead. I was in listen-only mode. All I saw was (for the first 5 minutes of the pass) a series of lines which showed Doppler, almost like a yard rake was dragging at an angle across the screen. What SHOULD I see? Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com From nss at mwt.net Mon Aug 15 01:20:04 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:20:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Still cannot receive NO-84 In-Reply-To: <006001d1f68e$1ac56cb0$50504610$@rr.com> References: <006001d1f68e$1ac56cb0$50504610$@rr.com> Message-ID: it's probably 9 different stations. multiple users. thats whats nice about this bird no CB like single channel FM birds where the biggest signal talks. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/14/2016 7:43 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: > OK, I think I may have solved the mystery. I am seeing multi-channel PSK > during the pass. Why someone would use multi-channel PSK is a mystery to > me, but it looks like 9 channels. > > Anyone seen that before? > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > Greensboro, NC FM06be > wd4elg at arrl.net > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > > _____________________________________________ > From: Mark Lunday [mailto:wd4elg at triad.rr.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 4:50 PM > To: 'Mark Lunday'; 'amsat-bb at amsat.org' > Subject: Still cannot receive NO-84 > > > 2046 UTC, the bird went directly overhead. I was in listen-only mode. All > I saw was (for the first 5 minutes of the pass) a series of lines which > showed Doppler, almost like a yard rake was dragging at an angle across the > screen. > > What SHOULD I see? > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > Greensboro, NC FM06be > wd4elg at arrl.net > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From mlunday at nc.rr.com Mon Aug 15 02:26:54 2016 From: mlunday at nc.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:26:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Still cannot receive NO-84 In-Reply-To: References: <006001d1f68e$1ac56cb0$50504610$@rr.com> Message-ID: <006f01d1f69c$7db39ff0$791adfd0$@rr.com> Well, the signals all start and stop at the same time, and are all equally spaced. If this was HF only, I would say it looks like the PSK AFSK is overmodulated by using too much TX audio... Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com From nss at mwt.net Mon Aug 15 02:39:20 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:39:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Still cannot receive NO-84 In-Reply-To: <006f01d1f69c$7db39ff0$791adfd0$@rr.com> References: <006001d1f68e$1ac56cb0$50504610$@rr.com> <006f01d1f69c$7db39ff0$791adfd0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <81f8df19-f769-995a-d279-022d6e0cd98f@mwt.net> ahhh OK, did you see who it was to let them know? Joe Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/14/2016 9:26 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: > Well, the signals all start and stop at the same time, and are all equally > spaced. > > If this was HF only, I would say it looks like the PSK AFSK is overmodulated > by using too much TX audio... > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > Greensboro, NC FM06be > wd4elg at arrl.net > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > > > > From py4zbz at yahoo.com Mon Aug 15 13:35:25 2016 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV from ISS References: <1105962423.14274412.1471268125156.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1105962423.14274412.1471268125156.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Picture received in Brazil GH70un at 12:39 UTC: 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Aug 15 18:08:02 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:08:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Only US East Coast ISS SSTV Pass for Tuesday is at 16:30 UTC / 12:30 EDT Message-ID: https://youtu.be/QtpSw6LYn8U The Moscow Aviation Institute ISS SSTV event, otherwise known as MAI-75, which took place Monday [1] and will also run on Tuesday August 16th is scheduled to stop at 16:45 UTC. [2] That leaves only one opportunity for US and Canadian hams to receive the SSTV, during a single pass starting around 16:30 UTC, or 12:30 EDT. This assumes the Russians don't turn it off slightly before schedule, which is a possibility as it isn't started and stopped exactly per schedule. In the video above you can see the pass and some of the cities it covers. Note that even though it passes over a lot of cities, all but Miami will be below 50 degrees which will make reception harder. For the lowest elevations like Dallas with only 1 degree, you may only be able to receive it with a directional antenna like the Arrow II Satellite antenna or a base antenna with a very low radiation angle. Below you can see the exact pass timing for various cities and the max elevation. The cities are listed in order of max elevation. If you're in or near a city towards the top of the list you'll have a decent chance of receiving the ISS Slow Scan TV. Date Time Azimuth Elevation Downlink Uplink ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Miami: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:30:27 211.2 0.0 145.80334 144.48669 Max: 2016/08/16 12:35:43 127.6 51.2 145.79994 144.49006 Set: 2016/08/16 12:41:01 47.3 0.0 145.79666 144.49331 Raleigh: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:33:08 196.2 0.0 145.80308 144.48695 Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:01 128.9 19.8 145.79995 144.49005 Set: 2016/08/16 12:42:55 63.0 0.0 145.79691 144.49307 New York: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:34:50 197.1 0.0 145.80304 144.48698 Max: 2016/08/16 12:39:40 131.3 18.4 145.79995 144.49005 Set: 2016/08/16 12:44:31 67.0 0.0 145.79694 144.49303 Washington, DC: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:34:08 193.7 0.0 145.80300 144.48703 Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:53 129.7 16.9 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:43:40 66.8 0.0 145.79698 144.49299 Atlanta: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:32:16 185.5 0.0 145.80285 144.48717 Max: 2016/08/16 12:36:48 126.2 13.4 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:41:21 67.9 0.0 145.79713 144.49285 Montreal: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:36:17 187.4 0.0 145.80275 144.48727 Max: 2016/08/16 12:40:40 131.4 11.5 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:45:04 76.3 0.0 145.79723 144.49275 Toronto: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:35:37 176.9 0.0 145.80248 144.48754 Max: 2016/08/16 12:39:35 128.1 8.1 145.79997 144.49003 Set: 2016/08/16 12:43:34 79.8 0.0 145.79749 144.49249 Chicago: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:35:31 154.3 0.0 145.80165 144.48836 Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:13 123.3 2.9 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:40:54 92.8 0.0 145.79830 144.49168 Dallas: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:33:04 142.9 0.0 145.80119 144.48882 Max: 2016/08/16 12:35:02 120.8 1.4 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:36:59 99.0 0.0 145.79877 144.49122 To find out exactly when the ISS will be passing over you or see the max elevation for your location use http://heavens-above.com or another website or mobile app to predict the pass. Here is a video I made that shows how to setup heavens-above.com to track the ISS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lWQrtLQvE For more info on ISS Slow Scan TV see my "ISS SSTV Reception Hints" webpage: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-reception-hints/ 73, John Brier KG4AKV 1) https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/10/iss-sstv-august/ 2) https://twitter.com/RF2Space/status/765197803199012864 From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Aug 15 18:18:04 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:18:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Only US East Coast ISS SSTV Pass for Tuesday is at 16:30 UTC / 12:30 EDT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Isnt there also a school contact at the same time? I assume the school will take priority over the SSTV? bob -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:08 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Only US East Coast ISS SSTV Pass for Tuesday is at 16:30 UTC / 12:30 EDT https://youtu.be/QtpSw6LYn8U The Moscow Aviation Institute ISS SSTV event, otherwise known as MAI-75, which took place Monday [1] and will also run on Tuesday August 16th is scheduled to stop at 16:45 UTC. [2] That leaves only one opportunity for US and Canadian hams to receive the SSTV, during a single pass starting around 16:30 UTC, or 12:30 EDT. This assumes the Russians don't turn it off slightly before schedule, which is a possibility as it isn't started and stopped exactly per schedule. In the video above you can see the pass and some of the cities it covers. Note that even though it passes over a lot of cities, all but Miami will be below 50 degrees which will make reception harder. For the lowest elevations like Dallas with only 1 degree, you may only be able to receive it with a directional antenna like the Arrow II Satellite antenna or a base antenna with a very low radiation angle. Below you can see the exact pass timing for various cities and the max elevation. The cities are listed in order of max elevation. If you're in or near a city towards the top of the list you'll have a decent chance of receiving the ISS Slow Scan TV. Date Time Azimuth Elevation Downlink Uplink ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Miami: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:30:27 211.2 0.0 145.80334 144.48669 Max: 2016/08/16 12:35:43 127.6 51.2 145.79994 144.49006 Set: 2016/08/16 12:41:01 47.3 0.0 145.79666 144.49331 Raleigh: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:33:08 196.2 0.0 145.80308 144.48695 Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:01 128.9 19.8 145.79995 144.49005 Set: 2016/08/16 12:42:55 63.0 0.0 145.79691 144.49307 New York: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:34:50 197.1 0.0 145.80304 144.48698 Max: 2016/08/16 12:39:40 131.3 18.4 145.79995 144.49005 Set: 2016/08/16 12:44:31 67.0 0.0 145.79694 144.49303 Washington, DC: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:34:08 193.7 0.0 145.80300 144.48703 Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:53 129.7 16.9 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:43:40 66.8 0.0 145.79698 144.49299 Atlanta: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:32:16 185.5 0.0 145.80285 144.48717 Max: 2016/08/16 12:36:48 126.2 13.4 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:41:21 67.9 0.0 145.79713 144.49285 Montreal: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:36:17 187.4 0.0 145.80275 144.48727 Max: 2016/08/16 12:40:40 131.4 11.5 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:45:04 76.3 0.0 145.79723 144.49275 Toronto: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:35:37 176.9 0.0 145.80248 144.48754 Max: 2016/08/16 12:39:35 128.1 8.1 145.79997 144.49003 Set: 2016/08/16 12:43:34 79.8 0.0 145.79749 144.49249 Chicago: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:35:31 154.3 0.0 145.80165 144.48836 Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:13 123.3 2.9 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:40:54 92.8 0.0 145.79830 144.49168 Dallas: Rise: 2016/08/16 12:33:04 142.9 0.0 145.80119 144.48882 Max: 2016/08/16 12:35:02 120.8 1.4 145.79996 144.49004 Set: 2016/08/16 12:36:59 99.0 0.0 145.79877 144.49122 To find out exactly when the ISS will be passing over you or see the max elevation for your location use http://heavens-above.com or another website or mobile app to predict the pass. Here is a video I made that shows how to setup heavens-above.com to track the ISS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lWQrtLQvE For more info on ISS Slow Scan TV see my "ISS SSTV Reception Hints" webpage: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-reception-hints/ 73, John Brier KG4AKV 1) https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/10/iss-sstv-august/ 2) https://twitter.com/RF2Space/status/765197803199012864 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Aug 15 18:27:45 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:27:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Only US East Coast ISS SSTV Pass for Tuesday is at 16:30 UTC / 12:30 EDT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might be thinking of the Thursday school contact which is at a similar time: Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 29 deg On Aug 15, 2016 2:18 PM, "Robert Bruninga" wrote: > Isnt there also a school contact at the same time? I assume the school > will take priority over the SSTV? > bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:08 PM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Only US East Coast ISS SSTV Pass for Tuesday is at > 16:30 UTC / 12:30 EDT > > https://youtu.be/QtpSw6LYn8U > > The Moscow Aviation Institute ISS SSTV event, otherwise known as MAI-75, > which took place Monday [1] and will also run on Tuesday August 16th is > scheduled to stop at 16:45 UTC. [2] That leaves only one opportunity for > US and Canadian hams to receive the SSTV, during a single pass starting > around 16:30 UTC, or 12:30 EDT. > > This assumes the Russians don't turn it off slightly before schedule, > which is a possibility as it isn't started and stopped exactly per > schedule. In the video above you can see the pass and some of the cities > it covers. > > Note that even though it passes over a lot of cities, all but Miami will > be below 50 degrees which will make reception harder. For the lowest > elevations like Dallas with only 1 degree, you may only be able to receive > it with a directional antenna like the Arrow II Satellite antenna or a > base antenna with a very low radiation angle. > > Below you can see the exact pass timing for various cities and the max > elevation. The cities are listed in order of max elevation. If you're in > or near a city towards the top of the list you'll have a decent chance of > receiving the ISS Slow Scan TV. > > Date Time Azimuth Elevation Downlink Uplink > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Miami: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:30:27 211.2 0.0 145.80334 > 144.48669 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:35:43 127.6 51.2 145.79994 > 144.49006 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:41:01 47.3 0.0 145.79666 > 144.49331 > > Raleigh: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:33:08 196.2 0.0 145.80308 > 144.48695 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:01 128.9 19.8 145.79995 > 144.49005 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:42:55 63.0 0.0 145.79691 > 144.49307 > > New York: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:34:50 197.1 0.0 145.80304 > 144.48698 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:39:40 131.3 18.4 145.79995 > 144.49005 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:44:31 67.0 0.0 145.79694 > 144.49303 > > Washington, DC: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:34:08 193.7 0.0 145.80300 > 144.48703 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:53 129.7 16.9 145.79996 > 144.49004 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:43:40 66.8 0.0 145.79698 > 144.49299 > > Atlanta: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:32:16 185.5 0.0 145.80285 > 144.48717 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:36:48 126.2 13.4 145.79996 > 144.49004 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:41:21 67.9 0.0 145.79713 > 144.49285 > > Montreal: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:36:17 187.4 0.0 145.80275 > 144.48727 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:40:40 131.4 11.5 145.79996 > 144.49004 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:45:04 76.3 0.0 145.79723 > 144.49275 > > Toronto: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:35:37 176.9 0.0 145.80248 > 144.48754 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:39:35 128.1 8.1 145.79997 > 144.49003 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:43:34 79.8 0.0 145.79749 > 144.49249 > > Chicago: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:35:31 154.3 0.0 145.80165 > 144.48836 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:38:13 123.3 2.9 145.79996 > 144.49004 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:40:54 92.8 0.0 145.79830 > 144.49168 > > Dallas: > > Rise: 2016/08/16 12:33:04 142.9 0.0 145.80119 > 144.48882 > Max: 2016/08/16 12:35:02 120.8 1.4 145.79996 > 144.49004 > Set: 2016/08/16 12:36:59 99.0 0.0 145.79877 > 144.49122 > > To find out exactly when the ISS will be passing over you or see the max > elevation for your location use http://heavens-above.com or another > website or mobile app to predict the pass. > > Here is a video I made that shows how to setup heavens-above.com to track > the ISS: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lWQrtLQvE > > For more info on ISS Slow Scan TV see my "ISS SSTV Reception Hints" > webpage: > > https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-reception-hints/ > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > 1) https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/10/iss-sstv-august/ > 2) https://twitter.com/RF2Space/status/765197803199012864 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From david at g4nrt.com Mon Aug 15 18:32:37 2016 From: david at g4nrt.com (David Bondy G4NRT) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:32:37 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H Message-ID: <10F1A1AB-DFB3-4F4A-8E7B-A9AD814E0070@g4nrt.com> I am sure that over the years many people have used the Icom IC-910H for satellite communications. I am new to the world of satellites and have recently acquired a used IC-910H (no 23cm module) and I wondered whether anyone has made up a ?cheat sheet? which would help me get it all set-up for operating. If I could find a sheet for FM, one for SSB and perhaps one even for data then it would save me trying to re-invent the wheel! If anyone knows of any other good resources that i could consult then that would be great! Thanks in advance and 73, David ===================== David Bondy G4NRT The City of Rochester, Kent Locator: JO01fj From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 15 19:26:31 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:26:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY Message-ID: <772FB290C4A944C0A01AA01F26B7B0A2@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY on 18 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 16:24 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and K2ZRO The contact should be audible over the eastern U.S. and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. The Kopernik Observatory & Science Center is a non-profit informal educational institution that promotes interdisciplinary education in the fields of Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM). Through its classes, events and programs, Kopernik's multigenerational approach emphasizes experiential, engaged and active learning as a model of STEM education in our region. Founded in 1973, Kopernik has offered hundreds of thousands of students of all ages the opportunity to learn about their world and the universe surrounding them. Kopernik's resources include three permanent telescopes, a heliostat, weather station, three classrooms, computer lab, and amateur radio station. It also offers a robust outreach program in which its educators bring programs directly into the classroom. Kopernik offers a strong, STEM-based, summer camp experience for students between 1st and 12th grades. This summer one of its summer camps had 8th and 9th grade students design and build a weather balloon payload with 3 high-definition cameras and temperature monitoring instrumentation along with an Amateur Radio APRS tracking system. The balloon and payload was launched and reached an altitude of over 105,000 feet before the balloon burst and returned the payload to Earth. The payload was successfully recovered and allowing the students to examine the video, temperature data and tracking history. Kopernik has had three previous ARISS contacts (2010, 2013 and 2015). This year, Kopernik is offering 4th and 5th grade students attending its summer engineering camp the opportunity to participate in the 2016 ARISS contact. In preparation for the contact, the camp curriculum will include satellite orbits, satellite tracking, and radio communications. Students will ask the astronaut a wide range of questions about life on the ISS and the engineering involved in building and operating the ISS. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. We are building robots here at camp, what sort of robots do you use and how do they help you? 2. Has anything broken on the Space Station and how did you fix it? 3. What interest or activities did you have when you were young that helped you in qualifying for your current position? 4. How long have you been at the space station? 5. How long did it take you to get used to being in microgravity and what are some effects from microgravity you have noticed? 6. Do you have Internet up in the space? 7. What's the weather like in space? 8. How do you sleep without floating all over? 9. What did you have to study in school to become an astronaut? 10. Do you have children? If so how do you communicate with them when you are away? 11. Are you working on any research or science projects on the Space Station? 12. I heard training to be an astronaut can be very difficult. What was the toughest aspect of training in your opinion? 13. Have you ever seen a UFO? 14. What do you eat when you are in space? How do you pack food to take into space? Does it all need to be freeze dried like astronaut ice cream? 15. What do you and the other astronauts do for fun during your downtime? 16. At what age did you first become interested in space? 17. What languages do you speak? 18. What is your day like in space? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From va6bmj at gmail.com Mon Aug 15 21:16:36 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:16:36 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H In-Reply-To: <10F1A1AB-DFB3-4F4A-8E7B-A9AD814E0070@g4nrt.com> References: <10F1A1AB-DFB3-4F4A-8E7B-A9AD814E0070@g4nrt.com> Message-ID: On 8/15/16, David Bondy G4NRT wrote: > I am sure that over the years many people have used the Icom IC-910H for > satellite communications. > > I am new to the world of satellites and have recently acquired a used > IC-910H (no 23cm module) and I wondered whether anyone has made up a ?cheat > sheet? which would help me get it all set-up for operating. > > If I could find a sheet for FM, one for SSB and perhaps one even for data > then it would save me trying to re-invent the wheel! If anyone knows of any > other good resources that i could consult then that would be great! I'm not aware of such a guide, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind when setting up a station using a '910. If you're using computer control, you might not be able use the radio's satellite mode. I use Gpredict running on Linux to operate my rig and it requires that both the uplink and downlink VFOs be independent. (Hamlib runs in the background and actually controls the radio. Gpredict is the user interface.) Setting up the radio is quite easy. Each side can be set to the applicable mode by pressing a few buttons as shown in the manual. You'll find them right above the main VFO knob. Once I set up my software and engage the control function, the frequencies are set by the computer. Since I live in an apartment, I have to set up my station outside. I use an Arrow yagi, so I have only one hand free by which to operate my mike and adjust my computer. For that, I use a boom mike headset and a hand-held PTT switch. The switch is built such that I have a finger free while I'm transmitting so that I can adjust the frequencies through my computer to find my downlink or move elsewhere in the band. When I go on the air, I like to find a part of the band where there's no traffic so that when I'm looking for my downlink, I don't interrupt any on-going QSOs. I start by first setting my software to the nominal frequencies, moving away a bit if there's already some activity at or near mid-band, and then, if I don't already know what the offset is, I slowly change the downlink until I hear my signal. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From Mvivona at yahoo.com Mon Aug 15 23:13:03 2016 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:13:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H In-Reply-To: References: <10F1A1AB-DFB3-4F4A-8E7B-A9AD814E0070@g4nrt.com> Message-ID: <5BD2C5D7-7B07-4C62-9647-EA592516E956@yahoo.com> David, I have an iC910H driving it with SatPC32. I knew nothing when I started. All I did is press the "satellite" button and SatPC32 does the rest. No special setup on the radio side. Am using the USB cable to the radio, model number RPC-117-UF. Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Aug 15, 2016, at 5:16 PM, B J wrote: > On 8/15/16, David Bondy G4NRT wrote: > I am sure that over the years many people have used the Icom IC-910H for > satellite communications. > > I am new to the world of satellites and have recently acquired a used > IC-910H (no 23cm module) and I wondered whether anyone has made up a ?cheat > sheet? which would help me get it all set-up for operating. > > If I could find a sheet for FM, one for SSB and perhaps one even for data > then it would save me trying to re-invent the wheel! If anyone knows of any > other good resources that i could consult then that would be great! I'm not aware of such a guide, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind when setting up a station using a '910. If you're using computer control, you might not be able use the radio's satellite mode. I use Gpredict running on Linux to operate my rig and it requires that both the uplink and downlink VFOs be independent. (Hamlib runs in the background and actually controls the radio. Gpredict is the user interface.) Setting up the radio is quite easy. Each side can be set to the applicable mode by pressing a few buttons as shown in the manual. You'll find them right above the main VFO knob. Once I set up my software and engage the control function, the frequencies are set by the computer. Since I live in an apartment, I have to set up my station outside. I use an Arrow yagi, so I have only one hand free by which to operate my mike and adjust my computer. For that, I use a boom mike headset and a hand-held PTT switch. The switch is built such that I have a finger free while I'm transmitting so that I can adjust the frequencies through my computer to find my downlink or move elsewhere in the band. When I go on the air, I like to find a part of the band where there's no traffic so that when I'm looking for my downlink, I don't interrupt any on-going QSOs. I start by first setting my software to the nominal frequencies, moving away a bit if there's already some activity at or near mid-band, and then, if I don't already know what the offset is, I slowly change the downlink until I hear my signal. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Mon Aug 15 23:34:52 2016 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 23:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CubeSat launch today References: <1532434551.10894269.1471304092923.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1532434551.10894269.1471304092923.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Jonathan McDowell ?@planet4589 reports Mozi hao, Qibo Daqi Kexue Shiyan Weixing and the CubeSat 3CAT-2 were launched by Beijing today 3CAT-2 CubeSat downlinks listed as 145.970 MHz and 2401.00 MHz http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=371 ISS SSTV received today on Baofeng HT https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/15/iss-sstv-on-baofeng-ht/ Bob McCreadie G0FGX explains Satellite Operating in the TX Factor Show https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/14/satellite-operating-tx-factor/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From w4upd at cfl.rr.com Tue Aug 16 00:33:28 2016 From: w4upd at cfl.rr.com (w4upd) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:33:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H In-Reply-To: <5BD2C5D7-7B07-4C62-9647-EA592516E956@yahoo.com> References: <10F1A1AB-DFB3-4F4A-8E7B-A9AD814E0070@g4nrt.com> <5BD2C5D7-7B07-4C62-9647-EA592516E956@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <57B25F58.6050005@cfl.rr.com> I also use an IC-910 with Satpc32. I do not bother with the satellite mode button on the rig, as SatPC32 does that for you. I also like the fact that when I am done with Satpc32, I can turn off the satellite mode and the rig will go back to the frequencies I was monitoring prior to bringing Satpc32 up for satellite passes. One other hint, in FM while running Satpc32, also turn on the AFC on the rig for the downlink. It will track the satellite Doppler and Satpc32 follows along. Reid, W4UPD On 8/15/2016 7:13 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB wrote: > David, > I have an iC910H driving it with SatPC32. I knew nothing when I started. All I did is press the "satellite" button and SatPC32 does the rest. No special setup on the radio side. Am using the USB cable to the radio, model number RPC-117-UF. > > Michael Vivona > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 15, 2016, at 5:16 PM, B J wrote: > >> On 8/15/16, David Bondy G4NRT wrote: >> I am sure that over the years many people have used the Icom IC-910H for >> satellite communications. >> >> I am new to the world of satellites and have recently acquired a used >> IC-910H (no 23cm module) and I wondered whether anyone has made up a ?cheat >> sheet? which would help me get it all set-up for operating. >> >> If I could find a sheet for FM, one for SSB and perhaps one even for data >> then it would save me trying to re-invent the wheel! If anyone knows of any >> other good resources that i could consult then that would be great! > > > I'm not aware of such a guide, but there are a few things you need to > keep in mind when setting up a station using a '910. > > If you're using computer control, you might not be able use the > radio's satellite mode. I use Gpredict running on Linux to operate my > rig and it requires that both the uplink and downlink VFOs be > independent. (Hamlib runs in the background and actually controls the > radio. Gpredict is the user interface.) > > Setting up the radio is quite easy. Each side can be set to the > applicable mode by pressing a few buttons as shown in the manual. > You'll find them right above the main VFO knob. Once I set up my > software and engage the control function, the frequencies are set by > the computer. > > Since I live in an apartment, I have to set up my station outside. I > use an Arrow yagi, so I have only one hand free by which to operate my > mike and adjust my computer. For that, I use a boom mike headset and > a hand-held PTT switch. The switch is built such that I have a finger > free while I'm transmitting so that I can adjust the frequencies > through my computer to find my downlink or move elsewhere in the band. > > When I go on the air, I like to find a part of the band where there's > no traffic so that when I'm looking for my downlink, I don't interrupt > any on-going QSOs. I start by first setting my software to the > nominal frequencies, moving away a bit if there's already some > activity at or near mid-band, and then, if I don't already know what > the offset is, I slowly change the downlink until I hear my signal. > > 73s > > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com Tue Aug 16 00:47:19 2016 From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (P. Suryono Adisoemarta) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 00:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of IO-86 on 17 August References: <1150909640.15115282.1471308439233.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1150909640.15115282.1471308439233.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Dear all, To commemorate the Independence of Indonesia on 17th of August, Voice Repeater (VR) on IO-86 Satellite will be activated with the following schedule:17 August 2016- 04:30 UTC for 20 minutes (only while above Indonesia)- 06:15 UTC for 2 hours (one complete orbit), might be accessible from south part of USA Mode: FMUplink: 145.880 MHz (tone: 88.5 Hz)Downlink: 435.880 MHz (+- doppler) All licensed amateurs are welcome to use and all reports / videos are appreciated. 73 de Suryono Adisoemarta - YD0NXX / N5SNNAMSAT-ID Technical Team From mlunday at nc.rr.com Tue Aug 16 00:56:43 2016 From: mlunday at nc.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:56:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H In-Reply-To: <57B25F58.6050005@cfl.rr.com> References: <10F1A1AB-DFB3-4F4A-8E7B-A9AD814E0070@g4nrt.com> <5BD2C5D7-7B07-4C62-9647-EA592516E956@yahoo.com> <57B25F58.6050005@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <00fc01d1f759$0e9e9940$2bdbcbc0$@rr.com> How do you adjust on the linear birds with SatPC32? Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of w4upd Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:33 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H I also use an IC-910 with Satpc32. I do not bother with the satellite mode button on the rig, as SatPC32 does that for you. I also like the fact that when I am done with Satpc32, I can turn off the satellite mode and the rig will go back to the frequencies I was monitoring prior to bringing Satpc32 up for satellite passes. One other hint, in FM while running Satpc32, also turn on the AFC on the rig for the downlink. It will track the satellite Doppler and Satpc32 follows along. Reid, W4UPD From mikesprenger at gmail.com Tue Aug 16 01:25:09 2016 From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:25:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H In-Reply-To: <00fc01d1f759$0e9e9940$2bdbcbc0$@rr.com> References: <10F1A1AB-DFB3-4F4A-8E7B-A9AD814E0070@g4nrt.com> <5BD2C5D7-7B07-4C62-9647-EA592516E956@yahoo.com> <57B25F58.6050005@cfl.rr.com> <00fc01d1f759$0e9e9940$2bdbcbc0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Open the CAT window to ensure you're selecting the right up/down/mode for your chosen satellite. To tune the downlink in the passband, Spin the Dial on the radio. ......SatPC will then adjust the uplink frequency appropriately. If you aren't hearing yourself come out of the satellite on frequency: "The uplink calibration can be set in steps of 10, 100 or 1000 Hz with the corresponding up/down controls in the 'CAT' menu." I usually use the 100hz adjustments...Once I tweak the uplink, I can then spin the knob on the radio then SatPC32 will tune the uplink just right. Here's the whole section out of the manual: http://www.dk1tb.de/manual_e.htm#cat On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: > How do you adjust on the linear birds with SatPC32? > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > Greensboro, NC FM06be > wd4elg at arrl.net > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of w4upd > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:33 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H > > I also use an IC-910 with Satpc32. I do not bother with the satellite mode > button on the rig, as SatPC32 does that for you. I also like the fact that > when I am done with Satpc32, I can turn off the satellite mode and the rig > will go back to the frequencies I was monitoring prior to bringing Satpc32 > up for satellite passes. > > One other hint, in FM while running Satpc32, also turn on the AFC on the > rig for the downlink. It will track the satellite Doppler and Satpc32 > follows along. > > Reid, W4UPD > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Thanks, Mike Sprenger (37.9167N 81.1244W is the Summit) From mikesprenger at gmail.com Tue Aug 16 01:50:20 2016 From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:50:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H In-Reply-To: References: <10F1A1AB-DFB3-4F4A-8E7B-A9AD814E0070@g4nrt.com> <5BD2C5D7-7B07-4C62-9647-EA592516E956@yahoo.com> <57B25F58.6050005@cfl.rr.com> <00fc01d1f759$0e9e9940$2bdbcbc0$@rr.com> Message-ID: In the interest of being a bit more complete, there is a file needed that has the radio tuning details for the satellites. Erich covers the details here if you need to add satellites to your doppler.sqf file which contains the tuning information for each satellite, and in some cases, you'll have multiple lines for different scenarios on a given satellite: The information on what the doppler.sqf file is, where it is located, and how to update: http://www.dk1tb.de/manual_e.htm#auxfiles If the data needed for the satellite(s) you're interested in working is not in your copy of SatPC32, the data is probably here: https://amsat-uk.org/satellites/satpc32-doppler-sqf-file/ To edit the file, select the ? pulldown, then click auxiliary files and you'll see the doppler.sqf - click that in the menu to review the guidance and add your satellite of interest. If you're setting up for an FM Satellite...the exercise for the student is to look at the subtones.sqf under the ? --> Auxiliary Files menu and review the PL Tones in the file if you like working the FM Sats...thats where you configure the tones. Hopefully this points to more answers than questions. 73 Mike W4UOO On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Mike Sprenger wrote: > Open the CAT window to ensure you're selecting the right up/down/mode for > your chosen satellite. > > To tune the downlink in the passband, Spin the Dial on the radio. > > ......SatPC will then adjust the uplink frequency appropriately. If you > aren't hearing yourself come out of the satellite on frequency: > > "The uplink calibration can be set in steps of 10, 100 or 1000 Hz with the > corresponding up/down controls in the 'CAT' menu." > > > I usually use the 100hz adjustments...Once I tweak the uplink, I can then > spin the knob on the radio then SatPC32 will tune the uplink just right. > > Here's the whole section out of the manual: > http://www.dk1tb.de/manual_e.htm#cat > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: > >> How do you adjust on the linear birds with SatPC32? >> >> Mark Lunday, WD4ELG >> Greensboro, NC FM06be >> wd4elg at arrl.net >> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of w4upd >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:33 PM >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H >> >> I also use an IC-910 with Satpc32. I do not bother with the satellite >> mode button on the rig, as SatPC32 does that for you. I also like the fact >> that when I am done with Satpc32, I can turn off the satellite mode and the >> rig will go back to the frequencies I was monitoring prior to bringing >> Satpc32 up for satellite passes. >> >> One other hint, in FM while running Satpc32, also turn on the AFC on the >> rig for the downlink. It will track the satellite Doppler and Satpc32 >> follows along. >> >> Reid, W4UPD >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > > > -- > Thanks, > Mike Sprenger > (37.9167N 81.1244W is the Summit) > -- Thanks, Mike Sprenger (37.9167N 81.1244W is the Summit) From kd2akp at gmail.com Tue Aug 16 02:14:55 2016 From: kd2akp at gmail.com (Nestor Punales) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:14:55 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ILLW / NPOTA this weekend Message-ID: Hello everyone, I just wanted to let everyone know that I be activating/participating on the International Lighthouse Lightships Weekend from the *Old Point Loma Lighthouse US0067 *and for The National Parks on The Air would be *Cabrillo National Monument MN09*. We would be active on HF and all satellite passes that I can get from that location from 10:00 am- 4:00 pm (local time) Saturday and Sunday. This would be my first time operating from that location and it's some military radio equipment on that location that I hope would not cause interference with the down link (fingers crossed). We will be using the special event callsign* W6L* you can look us up on QRZ.com. I hope to hear you and the bird... PS. It's anyone else going to be participating on this event from any other Lighthouse this weekend? Nestor, K6JTT, DM12. From daniel at destevez.net Tue Aug 16 11:09:31 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:09:31 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] CubeSat launch today In-Reply-To: <1532434551.10894269.1471304092923.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1532434551.10894269.1471304092923.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1532434551.10894269.1471304092923.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0c101853-d634-0aba-9a00-af6339e40494@destevez.net> El 16/08/16 a las 01:34, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB escribi?: > Jonathan McDowell ?@planet4589 reports Mozi hao, Qibo Daqi Kexue Shiyan Weixing and the CubeSat 3CAT-2 were launched by Beijing today > 3CAT-2 CubeSat downlinks listed as 145.970 MHz and 2401.00 MHz > http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=371 Nothing heard on 145.970MHz 10:40UTC pass over Europe. 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From pconver at gmail.com Tue Aug 16 14:51:21 2016 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:51:21 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible 3CAT2 captured audio Message-ID: Today Aug-16 at 00:31 LU-time, on orbit 5 of 3CAT2 over Buenos Aires, the following audio was captured on CW at 145.826 KHz. http://amsat.org.ar/3cat21608160031.wav Estimated 3CAT2 could be object 2016-051C #41733 , Keps: 3CAT2 1 41733U 16051C 16229.12954035 -.00000071 00000-0 00000+0 0 9998 2 41733 97.3730 144.9200 0012852 267.1508 210.2637 15.23558066 53 Passes available at http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm selecting 3CAT2. 73, LU7ABF, Pedro From pconver at gmail.com Tue Aug 16 14:58:05 2016 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:58:05 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible 3CAT2 captured audio corrected frequency Message-ID: Today Aug-16 at 00:31 LU-time, on orbit 5 of 3CAT2 over Buenos Aires, the following audio was captured on CW at 145.970 KHz. http://amsat.org.ar/3cat21608160031.wav Estimated 3CAT2 could be object 2016-051C #41733 , Keps: 3CAT2 1 41733U 16051C 16229.12954035 -.00000071 00000-0 00000+0 0 9998 2 41733 97.3730 144.9200 0012852 267.1508 210.2637 15.23558066 53 Passes available at http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm selecting 3CAT2. 73, LU7ABF, Pedro From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Aug 16 16:56:27 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:56:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] No SSTV heard on 1633 UTC ISS pass over North America Message-ID: Nothing heard on 1633 UTC pass over North America. I guess they already turned the SSTV off. Oh well. 73, John Brier KG4AKV From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Tue Aug 16 17:59:02 2016 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:59:02 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digital Sats Message-ID: I am not there yet, but wonder which TNC's (modems) are favored by user here? Thanks & 73 From smedbury at windstream.net Tue Aug 16 17:59:57 2016 From: smedbury at windstream.net (Scott Medbury) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:59:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Message-ID: <20160816180057.2990021F06@lansing182.amsat.org> In converting my old paper logs for uploading to LoTW going back up to 15 years, I have found that most who frequently got on UO-14, AO-27 and SO-35 have not uploaded their logs either for one reason or another. The same seems to apply to SO-50 and other more recent birds. I was VERY slow to convert mine until Frank, K4FEG showed me how easy it was. If any of you have worked me on any LEO bird back to 2000, send me details and I will expedite yours. I have notes on every pass of UO-14, AO-27, SO-35, SO-51, SO-50 that I have been active including every call that heard. 73 ... Scott KD5FBA kd5fba at arrl.net smedbury at windstream.net Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID From daniel at destevez.net Tue Aug 16 19:07:45 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:07:45 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Digital Sats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <900e83d3-7c14-a369-b0fe-f0477f29acda@destevez.net> El 16/08/16 a las 19:59, Gerald Payton escribi?: > I am not there yet, but wonder which TNC's (modems) are favored by user here? Hi Gerald, Which kind of TNC's/modems are you interested in? Hardware or software? Nowadays a computer can do all this stuff in software. If you're interested in AFSK and FSK AX.25 software modems, my favourite is direwolf. UZ7HO softmodem is also very popular and does BPSK as well. 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From z_kevino at hotmail.com Tue Aug 16 23:24:36 2016 From: z_kevino at hotmail.com (kevino z) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:24:36 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] No SSTV heard on 1633 UTC ISS pass over North America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, what a disappointment - was hoping to show some newly licensed hams SSTV from ISS. Too bad that SSTV cubesat the kids made didn't work. ----- The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence. On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:57, John Brier > wrote: Nothing heard on 1633 UTC pass over North America. I guess they already turned the SSTV off. Oh well. 73, John Brier KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at amsat.org Wed Aug 17 02:39:23 2016 From: n8hm at amsat.org (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 22:39:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! Message-ID: Today (UTC) is the 20th anniversary of the launch of FO-29. Congratulations to the Japan Amateur Radio League for the success and long life of this satellite. To commemorate FO-29's birthday, I have posted a short article about FO-29 on the AMSAT-NA website. http://www.amsat.org/?p=5417 On a personal note, FO-29 has provided me with many, many hundreds of hours of enjoyment since I made my first QSO via it's linear transponder nearly four years ago. I have made 1,601 QSOs (34% of my total) with 400 different stations in 511 grids, 41 grid fields, 48 states (Hawaii is out of range, but I'd love to work Delaware on it some time!), 7 Canadian call areas, 46 DXCCs, 14 CQ zones, and 4 continents - all using two Yaesu FT-817s, manual Doppler tuning, and an Arrow antenna from here in Washington, DC. The large majority of QSOs were made using 5 watts (as I only became "QRO" with a 30 watt amplifier last November). I always look forward to saying hello to my European satellite friends every couple of months when the apogee is over the Atlantic and trying to stretch the footprint to work new countries. Here's to hopefully many more years of service to the amateur satellite community! 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) From jeff_griffin at comcast.net Wed Aug 17 02:45:15 2016 From: jeff_griffin at comcast.net (jeff_griffin) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 22:45:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <023b01d1f831$62dcd2a0$289677e0$@net> I remember the day well when it came online... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:39 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! Today (UTC) is the 20th anniversary of the launch of FO-29. Congratulations to the Japan Amateur Radio League for the success and long life of this satellite. To commemorate FO-29's birthday, I have posted a short article about FO-29 on the AMSAT-NA website. http://www.amsat.org/?p=5417 On a personal note, FO-29 has provided me with many, many hundreds of hours of enjoyment since I made my first QSO via it's linear transponder nearly four years ago. I have made 1,601 QSOs (34% of my total) with 400 different stations in 511 grids, 41 grid fields, 48 states (Hawaii is out of range, but I'd love to work Delaware on it some time!), 7 Canadian call areas, 46 DXCCs, 14 CQ zones, and 4 continents - all using two Yaesu FT-817s, manual Doppler tuning, and an Arrow antenna from here in Washington, DC. The large majority of QSOs were made using 5 watts (as I only became "QRO" with a 30 watt amplifier last November). I always look forward to saying hello to my European satellite friends every couple of months when the apogee is over the Atlantic and trying to stretch the footprint to work new countries. Here's to hopefully many more years of service to the amateur satellite community! 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7752 / Virus Database: 4647/12799 - Release Date: 08/12/16 From daleh at alaska.net Wed Aug 17 03:02:45 2016 From: daleh at alaska.net (daleh) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:02:45 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69e7eaf5-0df6-7d73-ac00-5c04cd2f498b@alaska.net> Tnx Paul, I to enjoy Fo29 when I can.. Dale, KL7XJ On 8/16/2016 6:39 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Today (UTC) is the 20th anniversary of the launch of FO-29. Congratulations > to the Japan Amateur Radio League for the success and long life of this > satellite. To commemorate FO-29's birthday, I have posted a short article > about FO-29 on the AMSAT-NA website. > > http://www.amsat.org/?p=5417 > > On a personal note, FO-29 has provided me with many, many hundreds of hours > of enjoyment since I made my first QSO via it's linear transponder nearly > four years ago. I have made 1,601 QSOs (34% of my total) with 400 different > stations in 511 grids, 41 grid fields, 48 states (Hawaii is out of range, > but I'd love to work Delaware on it some time!), 7 Canadian call areas, 46 > DXCCs, 14 CQ zones, and 4 continents - all using two Yaesu FT-817s, manual > Doppler tuning, and an Arrow antenna from here in Washington, DC. The large > majority of QSOs were made using 5 watts (as I only became "QRO" with a 30 > watt amplifier last November). I always look forward to saying hello to my > European satellite friends every couple of months when the apogee is over > the Atlantic and trying to stretch the footprint to work new countries. > Here's to hopefully many more years of service to the amateur satellite > community! > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Secretary > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From va6bmj at gmail.com Wed Aug 17 03:17:35 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 03:17:35 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've worked Hawaii over FO-29--more than 5000 km from DO33. During some S-N passes, I've been able to follow it to LOS. From the control software that I use for my IC-910, I determined that it would be somewhere over the Arctic Ocean well north of Siberia when that happens. Not bad for 5 W into a hand-held Arrow yagi. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From AJ9N at aol.com Wed Aug 17 04:10:51 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 00:10:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-17 04:00 UTC Message-ID: <140e58.4b2f103b.44e53dcb@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-17 04:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 29 deg Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC 42 deg The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, direct via N9DR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ(***) Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC 42 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 120 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-17 04:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1078. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1043. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-12 02:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From wd4elg at triad.rr.com Wed Aug 17 04:45:26 2016 From: wd4elg at triad.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 00:45:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved Message-ID: <022501d1f842$2c80e5f0$8582b1d0$@rr.com> On the 0340 UTC pass, I again could see someone in the passband, but it showed as 10 traces rather than one. At the end of the transmission, I heard a CW ID. So I emailed the operator. Turns out, he's transmitting PropNet PSK beacon signal, and it's falling in the passband of NO-84 uplink! Now it makes sense. And of course I could not decode his PSK31 signal, because it's sending data aligned with the PropNet algorithm! I still can't see my signal on the downlink. Maybe I need to try a different antenna.. Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com From kq6ea at verizon.net Wed Aug 17 05:06:30 2016 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:06:30 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! In-Reply-To: <69e7eaf5-0df6-7d73-ac00-5c04cd2f498b@alaska.net> References: <69e7eaf5-0df6-7d73-ac00-5c04cd2f498b@alaska.net> Message-ID: <75d775ef-f494-be13-aded-93b0ab75e7f0@verizon.net> Happy birthday to my favorite bird! 73, Jim KQ6EA On 08/17/2016 03:02 AM, daleh wrote: > Tnx Paul, I to enjoy Fo29 when I can.. > > > Dale, KL7XJ > > > On 8/16/2016 6:39 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> Today (UTC) is the 20th anniversary of the launch of FO-29. >> Congratulations >> to the Japan Amateur Radio League for the success and long life of this >> satellite. To commemorate FO-29's birthday, I have posted a short >> article >> about FO-29 on the AMSAT-NA website. >> >> http://www.amsat.org/?p=5417 >> >> On a personal note, FO-29 has provided me with many, many hundreds of >> hours >> of enjoyment since I made my first QSO via it's linear transponder >> nearly >> four years ago. I have made 1,601 QSOs (34% of my total) with 400 >> different >> stations in 511 grids, 41 grid fields, 48 states (Hawaii is out of >> range, >> but I'd love to work Delaware on it some time!), 7 Canadian call >> areas, 46 >> DXCCs, 14 CQ zones, and 4 continents - all using two Yaesu FT-817s, >> manual >> Doppler tuning, and an Arrow antenna from here in Washington, DC. The >> large >> majority of QSOs were made using 5 watts (as I only became "QRO" with >> a 30 >> watt amplifier last November). I always look forward to saying hello >> to my >> European satellite friends every couple of months when the apogee is >> over >> the Atlantic and trying to stretch the footprint to work new countries. >> Here's to hopefully many more years of service to the amateur satellite >> community! >> >> 73, >> >> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM >> Secretary >> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From nss at mwt.net Wed Aug 17 05:55:37 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 00:55:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved In-Reply-To: <022501d1f842$2c80e5f0$8582b1d0$@rr.com> References: <022501d1f842$2c80e5f0$8582b1d0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <444a3e57-2108-eb6c-dda9-2861dd9d79f3@mwt.net> that doesn't answer the multiple traces tho. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/16/2016 11:45 PM, Mark Lunday wrote: > On the 0340 UTC pass, I again could see someone in the passband, but it > showed as 10 traces rather than one. At the end of the transmission, I > heard a CW ID. So I emailed the operator. > > Turns out, he's transmitting PropNet PSK beacon signal, and it's falling in > the passband of NO-84 uplink! Now it makes sense. And of course I could > not decode his PSK31 signal, because it's sending data aligned with the > PropNet algorithm! > > I still can't see my signal on the downlink. Maybe I need to try a > different antenna.. > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > Greensboro, NC FM06be > wd4elg at arrl.net > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From GW1FKY at aol.com Wed Aug 17 08:11:05 2016 From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 04:11:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] International Lighhouse/Lightship Weekend - Satellite operation Message-ID: <142506.6e703849.44e57619@aol.com> Hi all, With reference to the question about satellite operation for this years "International Lighthouse /Lightship " events ( ILL ) dates Saturday 20 th and Sunday 21st august 2016. Over here in Wales ( United Kingdom ) the " Barry Amateur Radio Society " will be operating from a twin pair of lighthouses located at "NASH POINT " situated on the coast of the Bristol Channel - South Wales. We will be limited to operation during approx. 0700 -1600 hrs GMT only I regret to say. " In addition to operating on the HF and VHF bands I also plan to set up my portable satellite equipment for operation and contacts during suitable passes" Callsign /Lighthouse and details as follows GC4BRC - Lighthouse ( High ) Ref: UK0071: GC4BRS - Lighthouse ( Low ) Ref: UK0072 Locator Ref: IO81FJ QSL Manager : MW0DHF ( Philip King) Weather is not looking to good - hopefully it will not deter our plans for operation. Ken Eaton GW1FKY . From wmy at isac.gov.in Wed Aug 17 09:40:22 2016 From: wmy at isac.gov.in (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:10:22 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160817094058.256358654@lansing182.amsat.org> Happy Birthday wishes to Fuji Oscar FO-29, one of the Amateur Radio World's most favorite bird. Greetings from India !!! Quoting Paul Stoetzer : > Today (UTC) is the 20th anniversary of the launch of FO-29. > Congratulations > to the Japan Amateur Radio League for the success and long life of this > satellite. To commemorate FO-29's birthday, I have posted a short article > about FO-29 on the AMSAT-NA website. > > http://www.amsat.org/?p=5417 > > On a personal note, FO-29 has provided me with many, many hundreds of > hours > of enjoyment since I made my first QSO via it's linear transponder nearly > four years ago. I have made 1,601 QSOs (34% of my total) with 400 > different > stations in 511 grids, 41 grid fields, 48 states (Hawaii is out of range, > but I'd love to work Delaware on it some time!), 7 Canadian call areas, 46 > DXCCs, 14 CQ zones, and 4 continents - all using two Yaesu FT-817s, manual > Doppler tuning, and an Arrow antenna from here in Washington, DC. The > large > majority of QSOs were made using 5 watts (as I only became "QRO" with a 30 > watt amplifier last November). I always look forward to saying hello to my > European satellite friends every couple of months when the apogee is over > the Atlantic and trying to stretch the footprint to work new countries. > Here's to hopefully many more years of service to the amateur satellite > community! > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Secretary > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program!Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS] Secretary & Station-In-Charge Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC ISRO Satellite Centre HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From mlunday at nc.rr.com Wed Aug 17 14:55:04 2016 From: mlunday at nc.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:55:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved In-Reply-To: <444a3e57-2108-eb6c-dda9-2861dd9d79f3@mwt.net> References: <022501d1f842$2c80e5f0$8582b1d0$@rr.com> <444a3e57-2108-eb6c-dda9-2861dd9d79f3@mwt.net> Message-ID: <006001d1f897$574784b0$05d68e10$@rr.com> I think either he is overmodulating his AFSK or the signal is overdriving NO-84 receiver. Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:56 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved that doesn't answer the multiple traces tho. Joe WB9SBD From nss at mwt.net Wed Aug 17 15:03:32 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:03:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved In-Reply-To: <006001d1f897$574784b0$05d68e10$@rr.com> References: <022501d1f842$2c80e5f0$8582b1d0$@rr.com> <444a3e57-2108-eb6c-dda9-2861dd9d79f3@mwt.net> <006001d1f897$574784b0$05d68e10$@rr.com> Message-ID: Did you tell him what was happening? I honestly can hardly believe that he doesn't have something drastically wrong. Because guys that run that beacon program rarely run more than 5 watts MAX. most are like 500 milliwatts 1/2 a watt. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/17/2016 9:55 AM, Mark Lunday wrote: > I think either he is overmodulating his AFSK or the signal is overdriving > NO-84 receiver. > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > Greensboro, NC FM06be > wd4elg at arrl.net > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:56 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved > > that doesn't answer the multiple traces tho. > > Joe WB9SBD > > > > From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 17 16:43:31 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:43:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Test Message-ID: Test post. Please ignore! From skristof at etczone.com Wed Aug 17 16:55:55 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:55:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT website? Message-ID: Anyone else having trouble getting on to the AMSAT website or is it just me? Steve AI9IN From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 17 20:28:27 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:28:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Test Message-ID: The BB seems to have been down, so this is a test. Please ignore. 73, Paul, N8HM From mlunday at nc.rr.com Thu Aug 18 02:04:40 2016 From: mlunday at nc.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:04:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved In-Reply-To: References: <022501d1f842$2c80e5f0$8582b1d0$@rr.com> <444a3e57-2108-eb6c-dda9-2861dd9d79f3@mwt.net> <006001d1f897$574784b0$05d68e10$@rr.com> Message-ID: <00da01d1f8f4$e1c27020$a5475060$@rr.com> I gently asked him if perhaps he was over-modulating his signal, among a bunch of other friendly ham-related topics. He answered the other topics but not the over-mod. I shall listen on another pass. It is weird, Joe. I remember doing ? watt on PropNet PSK back 10 years ago. How could he be hitting the bird if he?s using ? watt? Or even 5 watts? Unless he has a long boom yagi, but I don?t think so. And I still can?t get through the downlind! 28120 kHz, 1500 Hz audio, 50 watts out to an off-center-fed dipole at 64 feet. I tried both with my Flex 5K and my TS480 on 28120. I monitored the downlink with SDRPlay receiver so I could see the entire passband. Nuttin. Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com From: Joe [mailto:nss at mwt.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:04 AM To: Mark Lunday; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved Did you tell him what was happening? I honestly can hardly believe that he doesn't have something drastically wrong. Because guys that run that beacon program rarely run more than 5 watts MAX. most are like 500 milliwatts 1/2 a watt. Joe WB9SBD From smedbury at windstream.net Thu Aug 18 03:09:04 2016 From: smedbury at windstream.net (Scott Medbury) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:09:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes In-Reply-To: <1472872739.58205465.1471110795815.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1472872739.58205465.1471110795815.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001201d1f8fd$e0b5a4f0$a220eed0$@net> I have always used a handheld digital recorder and say the name of the satellite and time in zulu at the start for reference. I would then transcribe to paper noting time, call, and grid. NOW i am in the process of going back to the beginning of time (yr 2000) and using XMlog logging on the computer. It is s VERY user friendly program that was recommended to me by John, K6YK and will export an ADI file for uploading to LoTW, QRZ, QRZCQ and ClubLog. All of my satellite contacts have been with an HT and number over 4000. 73 ... Scott KD5FBA kd5fba at amsat.org kd5fba at arrl.net Scott Medbury 16802 Aprilmont Drive Sugar Land, TX 77498-1941 smedbury at windstream.net -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 12:53 PM To: Gerald Payton Cc: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes forward this information on the bb - I can use it 73 Bob W7LRD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Payton" To: "Amsat BB" Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:33:33 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually "uploading to LoTW." My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a stationary station; not portable handheld. Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what personal log program is commonly used? I normally do not use a logging program and certainly not familiar with LoTW. I looked at it on the ARRL website and it looked complicated. I really do not understand the process I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band base antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. That was encouraging. Any help will be appreciated . 73, Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kq6ea at verizon.net Thu Aug 18 06:15:05 2016 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 06:15:05 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT website? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No problems here in SoCal..... - Jim On 08/17/2016 04:55 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > Anyone else having trouble getting on to the AMSAT website or is it just > me? > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Aug 18 10:25:39 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 06:25:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] My First SO-50 Contact! And 18 QSL Cards From 2000! Message-ID: https://youtu.be/S2lHDKqTYXg I made five contacts on this SO-50 pass on May 11th, 2015 in Cary, North Carolina. In the video you can see a picture of me when I was 16 in 2000 with my original Arrow II antenna, the same one I used in this video in 2015. Additionally, I show 18 unique QSL cards I collected in 2000 when I first got into satellites, while operating on AO-27, SO-35 and UO-14. Stations contacted on this pass: 1) K4FEG Tennessee 2) N2PPL New York 3) WI9I Illinois 4) W2HRO New Jersey 5) KD8ATF West Virginia QSL Cards from 2000: 01) K8KFJ 02) K6YK 03) VA3PKH 04) K5UIC 05) N1JEZ 06) KG4ENR 07) K5VAS 08) N1ORC 09) K8ZZU 10) KK5DO 11) W5BTS 12) WA2IWW 13) WA3SKQ 14) N9UUR 15) KB1EAA 16) KC8??? 17) WB2RXF 18) N7SFI Thanks for watching! 73, John Brier KG4AKV From skristof at etczone.com Thu Aug 18 16:40:06 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:40:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS QSO with Kopernik Science Center Message-ID: <22ed211b0fcdc5c58e005f7c5f64b532@etczone.com> Very good reception of ISS side of the QSO with Kopernik Center in New York. Monitored in Batesville, Indiana, EM79jg. Max elevation 17 degrees. Used a Baofeng UV82 HT and an Arrow Antenna. Steve AI9IN From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 18 16:58:22 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:58:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] DXpeditions with Satellite Ops - CY9C (8/19 - 8/29) & YX0V (8/31 - 9/10) Message-ID: The next several weeks should be very exciting for satellite users across North and South America as well as Europe. Starting tomorrow, the CY9C DXpedition will be QRV from St. Paul Island with great footprints across Europe and North America and it was announced last night that the YX0V DXpedition to Aves Island, scheduled for August 31st - September 10th, will include satellite operations as well ( http://www.amsat.org/?p=5436). The Caribbean location and flat island terrain should provide excellent footprints across North and South America. It's wonderful to see major DXpeditions incorporating satellite activity into their plans with K1N last year and now two back to back this year. Let's hope this trend continues. I would encourage all satellite operators to support these DXpeditions and make it clear in your comments that you are supporting them due to the inclusion of satellite operations. And please be respectful and courteous when they are on the satellites. Let's show them the best of the amateur satellite community with hope that future DXpeditions will see these examples and also incorporate satellite operations. 73, Paul, N8HM From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Aug 18 16:51:15 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:51:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS QSO with Kopernik Science Center In-Reply-To: <22ed211b0fcdc5c58e005f7c5f64b532@etczone.com> References: <22ed211b0fcdc5c58e005f7c5f64b532@etczone.com> Message-ID: Same in NC FM05. max elevation 51 degrees. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Aug 18, 2016 12:40 PM, wrote: > Very good reception of ISS side of the QSO with Kopernik Center in New > York. Monitored in Batesville, Indiana, EM79jg. Max elevation 17 > degrees. Used a Baofeng UV82 HT and an Arrow Antenna. > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Thu Aug 18 17:00:31 2016 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:00:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Web and e-mail slowdown during last 24 hours Message-ID: <950c8d76d7aa4a38c0609210930cb827.squirrel@alum.wpi.edu> Hello all. We had an anomaly on the web and mail server yesterday which affected web performance between 10:30 UTC and 17:10 UTC. Additionally, mail was slowed down between 10:30 UTC the 17th and 06:40 UTC today the 18th. I do not believe any mail was lost. 73 de KM1P Joe From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Thu Aug 18 17:00:30 2016 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:00:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Can we do better? Message-ID: Can we do better than SSB voice with +10 dB SNR in 2500 Hz for a net data speed of 20* bits/second* and which requires 31 dB Eb/N0? In the AMSAT journal you are about to receive and at ARRL/TAPR DCC, Michelle Thompson, W5NYV and I answer this question to the best of our ability. Bob N4HY -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Thu Aug 18 17:32:20 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:32:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS QSO with Kopernik Science Center Message-ID: Thanks for the reports guys.Dave, AA4KN?ARISS mentor for Kopernik contact Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: John Brier Date: 8/18/16 12:51 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Steve Kristoff Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS QSO with Kopernik Science Center Same in NC FM05. max elevation 51 degrees. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Aug 18, 2016 12:40 PM, wrote: > Very good reception of ISS side of the QSO with Kopernik Center in New > York. Monitored in Batesville, Indiana, EM79jg. Max elevation 17 > degrees. Used a Baofeng UV82 HT and an Arrow Antenna. > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 18 18:11:21 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter In-Reply-To: <429426F1-0C63-48F7-A5EC-81F0533DD604@arrl.net> References: <355118353.1843029.1471123069313.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <355118353.1843029.1471123069313@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d1f5c9$0a3da9e0$1eb8fda0$@w0dhb.net> <1070416928.1906904.1471138738128@mail.yahoo.com> <429426F1-0C63-48F7-A5EC-81F0533DD604@arrl.net> Message-ID: <1516932068.1263718.1471543881273@mail.yahoo.com> After some additional hours of messing around, I HAVE gotten the VSPE splitter to work. However, it is maxed out at 9600 baud. Anything faster and it will start to hiccup! In most instances for CI-V, that is fast enough anyway. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain ----- Original Message ----- From: Daryl - K4RGK To: Mark Johns Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VSPE 64-bit splitter Mark, It has worked perfectly for me on a Win 7 64 bit system. In fact it has worked when two others I tried did not. I'm not at my shack QTH now but if you still have issues tomorrow I'd be happy to share my notes and config. Sounds like that may not help but from experience I must say Eterlogic VSPE is definitely up to the task. 73 Daryl K4RGK From xe2at at hotmail.com Fri Aug 19 02:04:44 2016 From: xe2at at hotmail.com (Alvaro de Leon Romo) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 02:04:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject) Message-ID: Starting tomorrow, the CY9C DXpedition will be QRV from St. Paul Island From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Fri Aug 19 10:10:24 2016 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 06:10:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] keps ftp? Message-ID: <935132a7-5c13-839c-f56d-5104167033b1@burlingtontelecom.net> Anyone else having problems downloading keps from within SATPC32 from the Amsat ftp site? I'm getting a download failure. Celestrak is fine. Mike -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 10:13:38 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (wa4sca at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 05:13:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] keps ftp? In-Reply-To: <935132a7-5c13-839c-f56d-5104167033b1@burlingtontelecom.net> References: <935132a7-5c13-839c-f56d-5104167033b1@burlingtontelecom.net> Message-ID: <57b6dbd3.c32b810a.3a264.60f4@mx.google.com> Yes. Gnomes already notified. 73s, Alan WA4SCA From: Mike Seguin From PeteW2JV at verizon.net Fri Aug 19 11:56:44 2016 From: PeteW2JV at verizon.net (W2JV) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:56:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Lighthouse/Lightship Weekend Message-ID: <2775E83A37EC4FE9AF7FF1E7FA7D9F5A@PeterPC> Hello: This weekend, Saturday and Sunday, the 20th and 21st, is International Lighthouse and Lightship Weekend. We will use the W2GSB callsign, with QSL information listed on the GSBARC site. As usual, GSBARC will be setting up two HF radio stations and a satellite station at the Fire Island Lighthouse. . In addition, since we are at the Fire Island National Seashore, FN30, we will be operating as a National Parks on the Air ( NPOTA #SS07). station. We will have the capability to operate on all the available satellites, look forward to working you, beginning with SO-50, 14:08 U. 73?s Peter W2JV From howied231 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 19 13:06:45 2016 From: howied231 at hotmail.com (Howie DeFelice) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:06:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved In-Reply-To: References: <022501d1f842$2c80e5f0$8582b1d0$@rr.com>, <444a3e57-2108-eb6c-dda9-2861dd9d79f3@mwt.net>, <006001d1f897$574784b0$05d68e10$@rr.com>, Message-ID: Could it be that someone is experimenting with digital voice using FreeDV ? www.freedv.org - Howie AB2S > To: mlunday at nc.rr.com; amsat-bb at amsat.org > From: nss at mwt.net > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:03:32 -0500 > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved > > Did you tell him what was happening? > I honestly can hardly believe that he doesn't have something drastically > wrong. > Because guys that run that beacon program rarely run more than 5 watts > MAX. most are like 500 milliwatts 1/2 a watt. > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/17/2016 9:55 AM, Mark Lunday wrote: > > I think either he is overmodulating his AFSK or the signal is overdriving > > NO-84 receiver. > > > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > > Greensboro, NC FM06be > > wd4elg at arrl.net > > http://wd4elg.blogspot.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe > > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:56 AM > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 mystery solved > > > > that doesn't answer the multiple traces tho. > > > > Joe WB9SBD > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From on4cjq at telenet.be Fri Aug 19 14:33:04 2016 From: on4cjq at telenet.be (on4cjq at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:33:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [amsat-bb] RHCP/LHCP Message-ID: <1825784561.206019198.1471617184961.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Hello ? I came up on this two sites with the same pictures of feeding a cross yagi, but one says RHCP and the other one says LHCP: http://www.qsl.net/sv1bsx/antenna-pol/polarization.html ?: on the end off the page there are to pictures from a cross yagi, the last one LHCP and the previous one?above it RHCP. The center conductor (+) is connected to the upperside at the rear dipole and on the left side at the front dipole.? it is CCW when you look from behind, and the autor says RHCP. ? Now look at this one: http://www.dg7ybn.de/Building/xpol.htm : look at picture (2) by left hand circ pol. Assume you turn the antenna 45? clockwise and you will get the same picture as the one mentioned above(SV1BSX). This one also?looks CCW from behind and the autor says LHCP. ? ? It is confusing when building home made antennas. I think both are LHCP... ? Best 73's ? Jerry,ON4CJQ ? From WB4SON at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 14:45:41 2016 From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:45:41 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] keps ftp? In-Reply-To: <57b6dbd3.c32b810a.3a264.60f4@mx.google.com> References: <935132a7-5c13-839c-f56d-5104167033b1@burlingtontelecom.net> <57b6dbd3.c32b810a.3a264.60f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I was having issues yesterday when the AMSAT.org website was down, but that was because I was accessing things via HTTP://. When I changed all references to FTP:, everything worked just fine. I did confirm that SATPC32 is working fine this morning with the HTTP references. 73, Bob, WB4SON On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 6:13 AM, wrote: > Yes. Gnomes already notified. > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > > > From: Mike Seguin > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Aug 19 15:01:14 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:01:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan Message-ID: <1F8F26EC65494F16AF9BFB321C70D424@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan on 20 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:50 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and 8J4DISS. The contact should be audible over Japan and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in Japanese. ???? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????? ??????? ??????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? Translation: Daisen elementary school is a small elementary school located near national park Daisen. This year, our school have 76 children. And our students are learning under the abundant environment naturally. All contact members are 6 grade (11 or 12 old). Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What is the most beautiful planet which you can see from ISS? 2. What is your opportunity to try for astronaut? 3. What do you think the best thing you went out space? 4. What is your daily routine at the ISS? 5. What is Onisi-san?s most important research at the ISS? 6. What are the inconveniences being in the ISS? 7. What are the difficulties wearing? 8. How do you make an effort to be astronaut? 9. Did you discover something in your experiment? 10. Which astronaut is your role model? 11. Please tell us the difference between the stars from the earth and space. 12. What kind of exercise do you do at the ISS? 13. Where is the most beautiful place of the earth that you can see from space? 14. Please tell us the most difficult thing in zero gravity? 15. What surprised you most in space? 16. What is the most popular food at the ISS? 17. What do you do when you have free time? 18. What do you want to eat first when you?ll come back to the earth? 19. Please tell us your daily schedule. 20. How do you feel when you start from the earth? 21. Please tell us about your experimental result. 22. What is your role in the ISS? 23. How many astronaut and from what country? 24. How do you plan to save water at the ISS? 25. What kind of animals do you have at the ISS? 26. What was your first meal in space? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, dir. via N9DR. The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David ? AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From aptura.larry at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 15:13:10 2016 From: aptura.larry at gmail.com (Larry Koziel) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:13:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] RHCP/LHCP Message-ID: <96aba0b2-1437-6a31-7360-d87da5c32a2d@amsat.org> Jerry, There are, unfortunately, two conventions for specifying the handedness of circular polarity. See the "Left/right handedness conventions" section of the Wikipedia article on Circular polarization at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_polarization#Left.2Fright_handedness_conventions. I would certainly agree with you that in the context of radio antennas, that SV1BSX got it wrong and should have used the other other convention. Regards, Larry K8MU From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 17:48:01 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:48:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Intermittent loss of full-duplex with Arrow, built-in-duplexer and TH-D72a Message-ID: For the third time I've lost the ability to hear myself on the downlink of SO-50 using this setup. This was on today's 1521 UTC SO-50 pass. In the past I had what appeared to be very similar behavior with a different arrow antenna, no duplexer and two radios. I troubleshot that issue to the screw in the gamma match coming lose which caused high SWR. In this case I tested the SWR with my MFJ-259B SWR analyzer and it was 1.1:1 and X=45-55 across almost the entire band. I actually was able to hear myself in the beginning of the pass and then it got worse until the point where I could not hear myself for the rest of the pass. Actually, in this case, unlike the other two times where I wasn't able to hear myself on the downlink I had another unusual behavior which was I *WAS* able to hear myself but it was extremely loud and distorted. This happened maybe twice in the middle of the pass and then after that I just couldn't hear myself when I transmitted. When I was able to hear myself very loud and distorted I felt it wasn't how I was getting into the bird, but somehow my radio was demodulating my 2 meter transmission. I confirmed with W4FS who was also on this pass that my audio never sounded odd. Very annoying and my only guess as to what could be causing this is some sort of external interference occasionally getting into my radio. Any ideas? 73, John Brier KG4AKV From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 18:11:55 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:11:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Intermittent loss of full-duplex with Arrow, built-in-duplexer and TH-D72a In-Reply-To: <1630358737.19064359.1471629918904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1630358737.19064359.1471629918904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm only running 5 watts. Just using my Kenwood TH-D72a HT. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:05 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > John, > > How much power are you running? Are you overheating > the duplexer? > > GL/73, Bob K8BL > > > ________________________________ > From: John Brier > To: AMSAT BB > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:48 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Intermittent loss of full-duplex with Arrow, > built-in-duplexer and TH-D72a > > For the third time I've lost the ability to hear myself on the > downlink of SO-50 using this setup. This was on today's 1521 UTC SO-50 > pass. > > In the past I had what appeared to be very similar behavior with a > different arrow antenna, no duplexer and two radios. I troubleshot > that issue to the screw in the gamma match coming lose which caused > high SWR. > > In this case I tested the SWR with my MFJ-259B SWR analyzer and it was > 1.1:1 and X=45-55 across almost the entire band. > > I actually was able to hear myself in the beginning of the pass and > then it got worse until the point where I could not hear myself for > the rest of the pass. > > Actually, in this case, unlike the other two times where I wasn't able > to hear myself on the downlink I had another unusual behavior which > was I *WAS* able to hear myself but it was extremely loud and > distorted. This happened maybe twice in the middle of the pass and > then after that I just couldn't hear myself when I transmitted. > > When I was able to hear myself very loud and distorted I felt it > wasn't how I was getting into the bird, but somehow my radio was > demodulating my 2 meter transmission. I confirmed with W4FS who was > also on this pass that my audio never sounded odd. > > Very annoying and my only guess as to what could be causing this is > some sort of external interference occasionally getting into my radio. > > Any ideas? > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 18:46:17 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:46:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Intermittent loss of full-duplex with Arrow, built-in-duplexer and TH-D72a In-Reply-To: <08E4A20B-D13F-46FE-AB7B-1AA3E0385BF1@comcast.net> References: <08E4A20B-D13F-46FE-AB7B-1AA3E0385BF1@comcast.net> Message-ID: I may have found the cause of the distortion, and another bit of helpful info: I got a copy of the audio of the pass from someone else and I'm comparing it to mine. When I am transmitting there are at least three places where I can hear other transmissions, clearly different FM transmissions of other people talking. At one point I even hear a roger beep like sound followed by another voice. That could just be a symptom of whatever is causing the desense though. Regarding this: On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:12 PM, James Duffey wrote: > If I had to guess, I would say that you have a feed line problem, either a short or open. > > Another option may be a poor connection or a short in the diplexer. - Duffey KK6MC > I have suspected the duplexer myself. There is only one connection from it to the radio. No adapters. The feedline from the duplexer has an SMA connector and screws right onto the SMA on the Kenwood TH-D72a. Still it could be the BNC connectors that go to the antenna. I asked the owner of Arrow antenna about the possibility of this issue being caused by the duplexer and he was not aware of that ever happening before. :-/ On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:12 PM, James Duffey wrote: > If I had to guess, I would say that you have a feed line problem, either a short or open. > > Another option may be a poor connection or a short in the diplexer. - Duffey KK6MC > > On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:48 AM, John Brier wrote: > >> For the third time I've lost the ability to hear myself on the >> downlink of SO-50 using this setup. This was on today's 1521 UTC SO-50 >> pass. >> >> In the past I had what appeared to be very similar behavior with a >> different arrow antenna, no duplexer and two radios. I troubleshot >> that issue to the screw in the gamma match coming lose which caused >> high SWR. >> >> In this case I tested the SWR with my MFJ-259B SWR analyzer and it was >> 1.1:1 and X=45-55 across almost the entire band. >> >> I actually was able to hear myself in the beginning of the pass and >> then it got worse until the point where I could not hear myself for >> the rest of the pass. >> >> Actually, in this case, unlike the other two times where I wasn't able >> to hear myself on the downlink I had another unusual behavior which >> was I *WAS* able to hear myself but it was extremely loud and >> distorted. This happened maybe twice in the middle of the pass and >> then after that I just couldn't hear myself when I transmitted. >> >> When I was able to hear myself very loud and distorted I felt it >> wasn't how I was getting into the bird, but somehow my radio was >> demodulating my 2 meter transmission. I confirmed with W4FS who was >> also on this pass that my audio never sounded odd. >> >> Very annoying and my only guess as to what could be causing this is >> some sort of external interference occasionally getting into my radio. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 19:01:22 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:01:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Intermittent loss of full-duplex with Arrow, built-in-duplexer and TH-D72a In-Reply-To: References: <08E4A20B-D13F-46FE-AB7B-1AA3E0385BF1@comcast.net> Message-ID: Compare my recording: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rt6lashyisefmhl/KG4AKV_-_SO-50_-_2016-08-18_-_1521_UTC.mp3?dl=0 To Clayton's recording: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9rgwalksajpz2br/Recording_from_Clayton_W5PFG.mp3?dl=0 Best done in Audacity or another DAW/audio editing app. Start his recording approximately 11-12 seconds after mine. You can hear the other FM transmissions at 03:30, 03:55 (and in particular 03:58) and 05:28 Here is my partial log of the pass: Nothing until 01:55 02:14 N8IUP EN81 CONTACTED 02:51 K8OE 03:05 K8OE 03:30 something on my recording that isn't on Clayton's 03:55 "", in particular right at 3:58 03:51 K8OE CONTACTED 04:06 N1MDJ EM66 CONTACTED 04:25 W4FS 04: 05:10 KC3BPM FM19 CONTACTED 05:28 something on my recording that isn't on Clayton's 05:49 DISTORTION 08:02 DOPPLER ADJUSTMENT SOUNDS WEIRD 08:24 XE1AY/P 08:43 KO4MA calls XE1AP/P 10:32 KO4MA EL88 CONTACTED - LOSS of FULL DUPLEX 12:50 ???? 13:03 KO4MA tells me I'm still in there 13:07 9Y4PX 13:14 GET EM JOHN 13:19 9Y4PX 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:46 PM, John Brier wrote: > I may have found the cause of the distortion, and another bit of helpful info: > > I got a copy of the audio of the pass from someone else and I'm > comparing it to mine. When I am transmitting there are at least three > places where I can hear other transmissions, clearly different FM > transmissions of other people talking. At one point I even hear a > roger beep like sound followed by another voice. That could just be a > symptom of whatever is causing the desense though. > > Regarding this: > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:12 PM, James Duffey wrote: >> If I had to guess, I would say that you have a feed line problem, either a short or open. >> >> Another option may be a poor connection or a short in the diplexer. - Duffey KK6MC >> > > I have suspected the duplexer myself. There is only one connection > from it to the radio. No adapters. The feedline from the duplexer has > an SMA connector and screws right onto the SMA on the Kenwood TH-D72a. > Still it could be the BNC connectors that go to the antenna. > > I asked the owner of Arrow antenna about the possibility of this issue > being caused by the duplexer and he was not aware of that ever > happening before. > > :-/ > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:12 PM, James Duffey wrote: >> If I had to guess, I would say that you have a feed line problem, either a short or open. >> >> Another option may be a poor connection or a short in the diplexer. - Duffey KK6MC >> >> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:48 AM, John Brier wrote: >> >>> For the third time I've lost the ability to hear myself on the >>> downlink of SO-50 using this setup. This was on today's 1521 UTC SO-50 >>> pass. >>> >>> In the past I had what appeared to be very similar behavior with a >>> different arrow antenna, no duplexer and two radios. I troubleshot >>> that issue to the screw in the gamma match coming lose which caused >>> high SWR. >>> >>> In this case I tested the SWR with my MFJ-259B SWR analyzer and it was >>> 1.1:1 and X=45-55 across almost the entire band. >>> >>> I actually was able to hear myself in the beginning of the pass and >>> then it got worse until the point where I could not hear myself for >>> the rest of the pass. >>> >>> Actually, in this case, unlike the other two times where I wasn't able >>> to hear myself on the downlink I had another unusual behavior which >>> was I *WAS* able to hear myself but it was extremely loud and >>> distorted. This happened maybe twice in the middle of the pass and >>> then after that I just couldn't hear myself when I transmitted. >>> >>> When I was able to hear myself very loud and distorted I felt it >>> wasn't how I was getting into the bird, but somehow my radio was >>> demodulating my 2 meter transmission. I confirmed with W4FS who was >>> also on this pass that my audio never sounded odd. >>> >>> Very annoying and my only guess as to what could be causing this is >>> some sort of external interference occasionally getting into my radio. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> From jimlist at zoho.com Fri Aug 19 19:26:58 2016 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:26:58 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Message-ID: Hi Folks I have just switched AO-73/FUNcube into full time transponder mode (Amateur Mode). As normal, plan to switch back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC See www.funcube.org.uk for details of the satellite. Have FUN! 73s Jim G3WGM From GW1FKY at aol.com Fri Aug 19 20:09:50 2016 From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:09:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Operation - Nash Point - wales -UK Message-ID: <4a555.38cc92ef.44e8c18e@aol.com> Reference my posting to the amsat -bbs and details about satellite and HF operation from NASH -Point, South Wales -UK. by the Barry Amateur Radio Society. Apologies I made a an error with one of the stated call signs. The correct call signs for the operation are " GC4BRS " and "GC6BRC". All of the other information is correct and as stated in posting to the bbs. Once again my apologies. Ken Eaton GW1FKY From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Aug 19 22:16:31 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:16:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? Message-ID: I need to find a good 2M/70cm dual band HT whip currently on the market. All the ones I've analyzed appear to be off frequency. Any suggestions are appreciated. Dave, AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 22:22:09 2016 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:22:09 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57B78691.7030308@gmail.com> Just curious, which ones have you looked at? I've been using the RH-77B (from Diamond, I think) for years, but am blissfully unaware of its characteristics. Greg KO6TH n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: > I need to find a good 2M/70cm dual band HT whip currently on the market. All the ones I've analyzed appear to be off frequency. Any suggestions are appreciated. > > Dave, AA4KN > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k7trkradio at charter.net Sat Aug 20 00:28:57 2016 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:28:57 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? In-Reply-To: <57B78691.7030308@gmail.com> References: <57B78691.7030308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701d1fa79$d78528b0$868f7a10$@charter.net> Ditto Diamond SRH77CA...works fine 73, K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:22 PM To: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? Just curious, which ones have you looked at? I've been using the RH-77B (from Diamond, I think) for years, but am blissfully unaware of its characteristics. Greg KO6TH n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: > I need to find a good 2M/70cm dual band HT whip currently on the market. All the ones I've analyzed appear to be off frequency. Any suggestions are appreciated. > > Dave, AA4KN > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kq6ea at verizon.net Sat Aug 20 01:19:11 2016 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 01:19:11 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? In-Reply-To: <002701d1fa79$d78528b0$868f7a10$@charter.net> References: <57B78691.7030308@gmail.com> <002701d1fa79$d78528b0$868f7a10$@charter.net> Message-ID: Same here. I have both the SMA and BNC versions of it, and it works far better than the stock antennas that came with the radios. 73, Jim KQ6EA On 08/20/2016 12:28 AM, Ted wrote: > Ditto Diamond SRH77CA...works fine > > 73, K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:22 PM > To: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? > > Just curious, which ones have you looked at? I've been using the RH-77B > (from Diamond, I think) for years, but am blissfully unaware of its > characteristics. > > Greg KO6TH > > > n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: >> I need to find a good 2M/70cm dual band HT whip currently on the market. > All the ones I've analyzed appear to be off frequency. Any suggestions are > appreciated. >> Dave, AA4KN >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wa4sca at gmail.com Sat Aug 20 02:25:14 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:25:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d1fa8a$15f343b0$41d9cb10$@GMAIL.COM> Dave, My favorite repeater is line of sight blocked by a hill. I can hear it fine, but in general with the stock antenna, whether Kenwood, Icom, or Yaesu equipment, I have a couple of hot spots in the house where I can get in. Consistently, switching to an RH-77 means I have good general coverage with only a couple of dead spots. I have an AIMUHF analyzer, the same model the ARRL uses as their standard, and all three RH-77s have been slightly off resonance. Perhaps incorrectly, I attribute that to the analyzer being part of the antenna system when testing a rubber duck, which is not what is intended. Even if that is wrong, the practical results indicated there is no significant issue. Just be careful to get them from a reputable dealer. The ones on EBay are often physically indistinguishable from the real thing, but can be far off frequency and perform poorer than stock. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- The best one I have ever used for satellite is the telescopic Pryme AL-800. Over 4000 contacts in 16 years. And numerous FM birds 73 ... Scott KD5FBA Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Aug 19, 2016 7:28 PM, Ted wrote: > > Ditto?? Diamond SRH77CA...works fine > > 73, K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:22 PM > To: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? > > Just curious, which ones have you looked at?? I've been using the RH-77B > (from Diamond, I think) for years, but am blissfully unaware of its > characteristics. > > Greg? KO6TH > > > n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: > > I need to find a good 2M/70cm dual band HT whip currently on the market. > All the ones I've analyzed appear to be off frequency. Any suggestions are > appreciated. > > > > Dave, AA4KN > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kd2akp at gmail.com Sat Aug 20 03:36:51 2016 From: kd2akp at gmail.com (Nestor Punales) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:36:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ILLW / NPOTA this weekend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello everyone, I just wanted to let everyone know that I be activating/participating on the International Lighthouse Lightships Weekend from the *Old Point Loma Lighthouse US0067 *and for The National Parks on The Air would be *Cabrillo National Monument MN09*. We would be active on HF and all satellite passes that I can get from that location from 10:00 am- 4:00 pm (local time) Saturday and Sunday. This would be my first time operating from that location and it's some military radio equipment on that location that I hope would not cause interference with the down link (fingers crossed). We will be using the special event callsign* W6L* you can look us up on QRZ.com. I hope to hear you and the bird... PS. It's anyone else going to be participating on this event from any other Lighthouse this weekend? Nestor, K6JTT, DM12. > > From wa4sca at gmail.com Sat Aug 20 07:14:49 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 02:14:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? In-Reply-To: <20160820025704.E908D882E@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20160820025704.E908D882E@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: <000001d1fab2$8b3ba680$a1b2f380$@GMAIL.COM> Scott, The Pryme is great, and about the price of an RH-77 at HRO. I have used mine as a pointer when giving an AMSAT forum. It allows me to demonstrate that you can work satellites without a big antenna. It is a bit large for ordinary use, at least for most people and HTs. A few weeks back, I took my HT to the local weekly breakfast group. When I set it on the table and extended the antenna, the conversations stopped and everybody stared. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: <> <> Ditto?? Diamond SRH77CA...works fine <> <> 73, K7TRK <> <> -----Original Message----- <> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D <> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:22 PM <> To: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net; amsat-bb at amsat.org <> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? <> <> Just curious, which ones have you looked at?? I've been using the RH-77B <> (from Diamond, I think) for years, but am blissfully unaware of its <> characteristics. <> <> Greg? KO6TH <> <> <> n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: <> > I need to find a good 2M/70cm dual band HT whip currently on the market. <> All the ones I've analyzed appear to be off frequency. Any suggestions are <> appreciated. <> > <> > Dave, AA4KN <> > <> > <> > --- <> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. <> > https://www.avast.com/antivirus <> > _______________________________________________ <> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <> > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the <> official views of AMSAT-NA. <> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all <> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official <> views of AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <_______________________________________________ >> ... what is good ... mine are off-freq ... In my only 30 or so years of playing and testing stuff, I have come to the conclusion if one sticks with the major manufacturers (Smiley, Comet, Diamond, Maldol) that testing antennas for use on their intended bands is a waste of time. With that said, snag yourself a Smiley 270 - available in Male BNC and Male or Female SMA. Out-performs HT antennas twice its price. Clint K6LCS From kk5do at amsat.org Sat Aug 20 13:52:40 2016 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:52:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? In-Reply-To: <000001d1fab2$8b3ba680$a1b2f380$@GMAIL.COM> References: <20160820025704.E908D882E@lansing182.amsat.org> <000001d1fab2$8b3ba680$a1b2f380$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: <19cdcbbd-9456-ad4d-78c4-14806e6b665c@amsat.org> I was probably one of the early users of the Pryme AL-800 antenna back in the mid to late 90's. I used to work the Mir all the time with it as well as the early sats. Only thing I found better for portable use with an HT was the Arrow antenna. Being telescopic makes it easy to store. One draw back, you have to be very careful when the antenna is extended as hitting it on a tree or the ground or a car will add stress to the connector of the radio. I never had a problem. Alan, N5AFV, I think did after making some 5,000 contacts with his. I used to position mine over a car hood, or in front of a hubcap to get reflections. Enjoy 73...bruce On 8/20/2016 2:14 AM, Alan wrote: > Scott, > > The Pryme is great, and about the price of an RH-77 at HRO. I have used mine as a pointer when giving an > AMSAT forum. It allows me to demonstrate that you can work satellites without a big antenna. > > It is a bit large for ordinary use, at least for most people and HTs. A few weeks back, I took my HT to > the local weekly breakfast group. When I set it on the table and extended the antenna, the conversations > stopped and everybody stared. > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > < > <73 ... Scott KD5FBA > < > < > < > wrote: > <> > <> Ditto?? Diamond SRH77CA...works fine > <> > <> 73, K7TRK > <> > <> -----Original Message----- > <> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D > <> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:22 PM > <> To: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net; amsat-bb at amsat.org > <> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any recommendations on a good dual band HT whip?? > <> > <> Just curious, which ones have you looked at?? I've been using the RH-77B > <> (from Diamond, I think) for years, but am blissfully unaware of its > <> characteristics. > <> > <> Greg? KO6TH > <> > <> > <> n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: > <> > I need to find a good 2M/70cm dual band HT whip currently on the market. > <> All the ones I've analyzed appear to be off frequency. Any suggestions are > <> appreciated. > <> > > <> > Dave, AA4KN > <> > > <> > > <> > --- > <> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > <> > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > <> > _______________________________________________ > <> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > <> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > <> > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > <> official views of AMSAT-NA. > <> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > <> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > <> > <> _______________________________________________ > <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > <> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Aug 20 14:40:40 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:40:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? Message-ID: <041b01d1faf0$d2dbf2e0$7893d8a0$@com> Is anyone aware of a tracking program that will predict mutual windows between two points on all satellites in a group or file, rather than one at a time? I'm aware of and use SatPC32's excellent WinListen, but as far as I can tell that's only one at a time. Thanks, Drew KO4MA From zleffke at vt.edu Sat Aug 20 14:50:11 2016 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:50:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? In-Reply-To: <041b01d1faf0$d2dbf2e0$7893d8a0$@com> References: <041b01d1faf0$d2dbf2e0$7893d8a0$@com> Message-ID: <001c1f86-66ec-91f6-6cad-c0e5f5e56697@vt.edu> I use the 'pyephem' module in python to do this kind of thing. Its not a nice finished product, just python scripts with terminal printing, but it basically looks for periods of time when there is positive elevation at both sites for a given target (not just satellites, but moon, planets, etc.). http://rhodesmill.org/pyephem/ -Zach Research Associate Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 8/20/2016 10:40 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > Is anyone aware of a tracking program that will predict mutual windows > between two points on all satellites in a group or file, rather than one at > a time? I'm aware of and use SatPC32's excellent WinListen, but as far as I > can tell that's only one at a time. > > > > Thanks, Drew KO4MA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From my.callsign at verizon.net Sat Aug 20 15:09:27 2016 From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:09:27 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] National Radio Day Message-ID: <5c994f87-1586-1bd6-323a-7df7455a9609@verizon.net> 20 August 2016 I would like to wish everyone a "Happy National Radio Day" KO6TZ BOB From xe1mex at yahoo.com Sat Aug 20 16:39:43 2016 From: xe1mex at yahoo.com (Alex Diaz - XE1MEX) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? References: <996232433.19425124.1471711183558.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <996232433.19425124.1471711183558.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Drew,Nova for Windows has a utility named "Listing Data for Two Observers" specifically what you want is named "Two Observers, Multiple Satellites Mutual". It does what you are looking for.73Alex, XE1MEX From:?Andrew Glasbrenner To:?amsat-bb at amsat.org? Sent:?Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:40 AM Subject:?[amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? Is anyone aware of a tracking program that will predict mutual windows between two points on all satellites in a group or file, rather than one at a time? I'm aware of and use SatPC32's excellent WinListen, but as far as I can tell that's only one at a time. Thanks, Drew KO4MA _______________________________________________ Sent via?AMSAT-BB at amsat.org.?AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings:?http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Aug 20 19:19:46 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 15:19:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? In-Reply-To: <996232433.19425124.1471711183558.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <996232433.19425124.1471711183558.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <996232433.19425124.1471711183558.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <054301d1fb17$d0ab93a0$7202bae0$@com> Alex and Zach, Thanks for the replies. Python scripts might be a little above my abilities, and I swore off Nova after support was more or less dropped and SatPC32 came along. I might reinstall it for occasional use for this reason alone. Thanks for the info. 73, Drew -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alex Diaz - XE1MEX via AMSAT-BB Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:40 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? Hi Drew,Nova for Windows has a utility named "Listing Data for Two Observers" specifically what you want is named "Two Observers, Multiple Satellites Mutual". It does what you are looking for.73Alex, XE1MEX From: Andrew Glasbrenner To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:40 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? Is anyone aware of a tracking program that will predict mutual windows between two points on all satellites in a group or file, rather than one at a time? I'm aware of and use SatPC32's excellent WinListen, but as far as I can tell that's only one at a time. Thanks, Drew KO4MA _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rzar66 at gmail.com Sat Aug 20 19:25:40 2016 From: rzar66 at gmail.com (R. S.) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 12:25:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] National Radio Day In-Reply-To: References: <5c994f87-1586-1bd6-323a-7df7455a9609@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hey Bob, I think I just made a contact with you on SO-50 about 20 mins ago. Ryan W6ZAR On Aug 20, 2016 8:10 AM, "KO6TZ Bob" wrote: 20 August 2016 I would like to wish everyone a "Happy National Radio Day" KO6TZ BOB _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 00:50:44 2016 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:50:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? Message-ID: Nova for Windows can do two satellites and two observers predictions for mutual visibility. I tested it out tonight. Quite helpful if you are checking footprints for AO-7 and FO-29 to DX. 73 Clayton W5PFG > From: Andrew Glasbrenner > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:40 AM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking software feature? > > Is anyone aware of a tracking program that will predict mutual windows between two points on all satellites in a group or file, rather than one at a time? I'm aware of and use SatPC32's excellent WinListen, but as far as I can tell that's only one at a time. > > > > Thanks, Drew KO4MA From wao at vfr.net Sun Aug 21 02:07:35 2016 From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:07:35 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-234 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-234 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Call for 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Papers * AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by September 15th * Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! * 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Registration Reminder * Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation * RadFxSat-2 (Fox-1E) Launch Scheduled for December 2017 * Graham Shirville G3VZV to be next BATC President * AMSAT Events * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-234.01 ANS-234 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 234.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE August 21, 2016 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-234.01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Papers The 2016 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and Space Symposium will be held on the weekend of November 10- 14, 2016. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible, but no later than September 15th. The final copy must be submitted by October 15th for inclusion in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz at n8fgv at amsat.org The 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual Meeting will be held aboard the cruise ship Carnival Liberty departing from the port of Galveston,Texas on November 10, 2016 and returning to port on November 14, 2016. [ANS thanks 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Committee for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by September 15th Ballots have been mailed to AMSAT-NA members in good standing, and must be returned to the AMSAT-NA office by September 15, 2016 in order to be counted. Those sent outside North America were sent by air mail. If you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for your QTH, please contact the AMSAT-NA office. Your completed ballot should be sent as promptly as possible, and those from outside North American preferably by air mail or other expedited means. This year there are five candidates: Tom Clark, K3IO Clayton Coleman, W5PFG Mark Hammond, N8MH Bruce Paige, KK5DO Paul Stoetzer, N8HM The three candidates receiving the highest number of votes will be seated as voting Board Members with two year terms. The two candidates receiving the next highest number of votes will be non-voting Alternate Board Members with terms of one year. Please vote for no more than three candidates. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the Board. Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT-NA. [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Happy 20th Birthday to FO-29! Happy 20th Birthday to Fuji-OSCAR 29! FO-29, known as JAS-2 (Japan Amateur Satellite #2) prior to launch, was built by the Japan Amateur Radio League and launched on August 17, 1996 from Tanegashima Space Center on an H-II launch vehicle into a 1,323 km x 800 km orbit with an inclination of 98.5 degrees. In addition to a 100 kHz wide analog Mode V/u (JA) transponder, the satellite also includes a packet BBS and digitalker. While the packet BBS and digitalker are non-functional, the analog transponder continues to provide excellent service to the present day. With an apogee of 1,323 km, FO-29 provides satellite operators with excellent DX opportunities every few months when the passes over a certain area are at or near apogee. Intercontinental QSOs are regularly reported, including between Japan and Alaska as well as North America and Europe. Although the theoretical maximum range at apogee is 7,502 km, the excellent sensitivity of the transponder as well as it?s strong and solid 1 watt downlink signal allows that distance to be stretched when the conditions are suitable. The longest distance QSO made via FO-29?s analog transponder occurred on August 27, 2015 with an unscheduled 7,599.959 km contact between KG5CCI in Arkansas and F4CQA in France. The sensitivity of the transponder and Mode V/U configuration also allow for the effective use of minimal equipment. QSOs have been reported using a single Yaesu FT-817 transceiver and the stock rubber duck antenna. Taking advantage of the large footprint and ease of use, the K1N DXpedition to Navassa Island made a total of 29 QSOs during two passes of FO-29 on February 12, 2015 using a single Yaesu FT-817 along with an Arrow antenna, activating that extremely rare DX entity on satellite for the first time since 1978. To this day, FO-29 remains the most widely used linear transponder satellite and an ideal satellite for beginners looking to become active on the linear transponder satellites to try first. The FO-29 control station maintains a blog (in Japanese) at http://blog.goo.ne.jp/fo-29 The JARL also offers an award for confirmed QSOs with ten different stations via FO-29. http://www.amsat.org/?p=5417 [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA and Paul, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Registration Reminder - Booking your Carnival Cruise does not register you for the AMSAT Symposium. There is a charge for each Symposium attendee of $40. This fee applies to those who will attend the technical presentations only and includes a copy of the printed Proceedings. Additional guests are entitled to attend all other events. The registration form is available from the AMSAT office or store website. Online Symposium registration: http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=130 - Ground transportation options have been added to the FAQ page on the AMSAT Symposium web page. Carnival offers round-trip transportation from HOU airport to the cruise terminal at approximately $74 per person, IAH airport $94 per person. If you are traveling to the Board of Directors meeting, you may still utilize the Carnival transportation option for your return to the airport from the cruise terminal. However, you will need to obtain other transportation between the airport and the Galveston DoubleTree hotel. Cruise information may be found at: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 [ANS thanks 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Committee for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation The BIRDS constellation, planned to deploy from the ISS in 2017, will consist of four 1U CubeSats (BIRD-B, BIRD-J, BIRD-G and BIRD-M). They are made of the exactly same design including the radio frequencies to be used and will be deployed together. The main mission of the constellation is to do experiments on radio communication with a CubeSat constellation via a network of UHF/VHF amateur radio ground stations all over the world. The challenge is to distinguish each satellite from the four satellites transmitting with the same frequency, hand over operation of a satellite from one ground station to another and assemble the satellite data, such as housekeeping telemetry, music and the Earth images, obtained at different ground stations. Amateur radio enthusiasts are asked to join the network to assist in the data downlink and reconstruction of the patchy satellite data into one meaningful data. Orbit information and operational plan of each satellite will be made available to the amateur radio community in the world. Software to decode the satellite data will be also made available. The respective amateur ground stations that can successfully decode the telemetry data, music and the Earth images, shall receive a QSL card from the BIRDS team. The data reconstructed by the effort of the amateur ground station network will be made public to share the sense of satisfaction and achievement. A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission that exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission. First, music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is processed on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent back to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. During organized events on space utilization with schools or general public, music could be heard using a common hand-held receiver and hand-made Yagi antenna positioned to track the satellite at each given pass over the region. This has a tremendous effect on awareness of radio communication among school children and general public, especially in the countries participating in the BIRDS project, Japan, Ghana, Mongolia, Nigeria and Bangladesh. Proposing to use CW, 1k2 AFSK FM, audio FM and 9k6 GMSK downlinks. Planning a JAXA sponsored deployment from the ISS during 2017. BIRDS project information: http://birds.ele.kyutech.ac.jp/ http://birds.ele.kyutech.ac.jp/amateur.html http://birds.ele.kyutech.ac.jp/newsletter.html https://www.facebook.com/Joint-Global-Multi-Nation-Birds-BIRDS-project- 171403156542445/ Download the Paper ? IAA-CU-15-01-16 Five-nations CubeSat constellation; An inexpensive test case for learning and capacity building https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289868265_IAA-CU-15-01-16_Five- nations_CubeSat_constellation_An_inexpensive_test_case_for_learning_and_capaci- _ty_building The IARU Satellite Frequency Coordination pages are hosted by AMSAT-UK at http://www.amsat.org.uk/iaru/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- RadFxSat-2 (Fox-1E) Launch Scheduled for December 2017 AMSAT has been informed that the launch for the NASA Educational Launch of Nanosatellites (ELaNa) XX mission carrying RadFxSat-2 (Fox-1E) has been scheduled for December 2017. In addition to RadFxSat-2, the ELaNa XX mission will carry 12 CubeSats constructed both by NASA and several universities around the United States. The mission will be launched by Virgin Galactic on their LauncherOne air launch to orbit system from Mojave, CA RadFxSat-2, like RadFxSat (Fox-1B), is a partnership opportunity between the Vanderbilt University Institute for Space and Defense Electronics and AMSAT and will carry a similar radiation effects experiment, studying new FinFET technology. RadFxSat-2 will be the fifth Fox-1 satellite built by AMSAT. Fox-1A, now AMSAT- OSCAR 85 (AO-85), was launched on October 8, 2015 and is fully operational, providing science data from it's onboard experiments and FM transponder service for the amateur radio community. Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D are scheduled for launch this fall and RadFxSat is scheduled to launch in early 2017. The RadFxSat-2 spacecraft bus will be built on the Fox-1 series but will feature a linear transponder ?upgrade? to replace the standard FM transponder in Fox-1A through D. In addition, the uplink and downlink bands will be reversed from the previous Fox satellites in a Mode V/u (J) configuration using a 2 meter uplink and 70 cm downlink. The downlink will feature a 1200 bps BPSK telemetry channel to carry the Vanderbilt science data in addition to a 30 kHz wide transponder for amateur radio use. [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA and Paul, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Graham Shirville G3VZV to be next BATC President The British Amateur Television Club (BATC) has announced that Graham Shirville, G3VZV, has been chosen to be the organization's next President. He first joined BATC in the early 1970?s, where he supported the development of the network of ATV repeaters in the UK for many years. More recently he has been closely involved with the development of the HamTV system on the ISS and with the schools contacts with Tim Peake during his Principia Mission. Graham has also been a driving force behind AMSAT-UK?s FUNcube satellite projects and was briefly shown working on the FUNcube-1 satellite in the RSGB Youth video Amateur Radio ? a 21st Century Hobby. He provided the deployment mechanism for the Slow Scan Television (SSTV) satellite ARISSat-1/KEDR which was released from the International Space Station by cosmonauts Sergei Volkov RU3DIS and Alexander Samokutyaev. British Amateur Television Club http://www.batc.org.uk/ https://amsat-uk.org/2016/08/19/graham-shirville-g3vzv-batc-president/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Events Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around the country. Examples of these events are radio club meetings where AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations, forums, and/or demonstrations). *Saturday, 3 September 2016 - Shelby Hamfest in Shelby, NC (ARRL North Carolina State Convention) - AMSAT Forum Only *Saturday and Sunday, 10-11 September 2016 Boxboro Hamfest in Boxborough, MA (ARRL New England Division Convention) *Friday, 23 September 2016 ? presentation at Jet Propulsion Laboratory Amateur Radio Club in Pasadena CA *Friday and Saturday, 21-22 October 2016 ? CopaFest 2016, south of Maricopa AZ *Saturday, 12 November 2016 ? Oro Valley Amateur Radio Club Hamfest in Marana AZ *Saturday, 3 December 2016 ? Superstition Superfest in Mesa AZ *Saturday, 14 January 2017 ? Thunderbird Hamfest 2017 in Phoenix AZ *Saturday, 4 February 2017 ? Palm Springs Hamfest in Palm Springs CA *Friday-Sunday, 10-12 February 2017 Orlando HamCation in Orlando, FL *Friday and Saturday, 17-18 February 2017 ? Yuma Hamfest in Yuma AZ [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Successful Contacts * Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign was scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut was Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact was successful: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC 42 deg Signal was very clear and strong. 13 students prepared 26 questions. They got 15 answers. News papers : 4 TV : 5 Audience: 210 Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcoPW5Ex-I Oyama Elementary School is near the Oyama National Park in Tottori Prefecture. It is a small elementary school with a population of 76. This school contact will involve 13 students in the sixth grade (ages 11 and 12), who will interview astronaut Onishi. * Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign was scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut was Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Contact was successful: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 29 deg * A telebridge contact via IS1SLD with students attending Space Camp at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, USA, was successful Thu 2016-08-11 14:48:24 UTC 83 deg. * A direct contact via OK2KET with the OK2KJT Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, was successful Wed 2016-08-10 18:56:17 UTC 90 deg. Upcoming Contacts * The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, direct via N9DR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC 42 deg Founded in 1925, the Children?s Museum of Indianapolis creates immersive, interdisciplinary experiences that promote inquiry-based family learning across the arts, sciences, and humanities. The museum is a 473,000 square foot, five-level facility that houses 11 permanent exhibit galleries, two traveling exhibit spaces, a children?s theater, a planetarium, a public library, a preschool, and a collection of more than 115,000 artifacts and objects. Most recently, the Children?s Museum opened Beyond Spaceship Earth, and immersive exhibit focused on human space travel. Beyond Spaceship Earth features three components: a recreation of portions of the inside of the International Space Station (ISS); a one-of-a-kind, immersive space object experience called the Schaefer Planetarium & Space Object Theater; and an Astronaut Wall of Fame, which will pay tribute to more than 30 astronauts with ties to Indiana. Hosting more than one million visitors each year, the museum has received numerous accolades, including being named one of the top 3 science centers in the country by Family Fun magazine. The museum has been ranked as the number one children?s museum by Forbes.com. Through a variety of free and discounted admission programs for under-served populations, as well as its community outreach efforts targeting local neighborhood residents and urban public schools, the Museum ensures that its visitor population is diverse. Watch http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled. [ANS thanks ARISS, Dave, AA4KN, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over International Lighthouse/Lightship Weekend - Satellite operation On the AMSAT-BB, Ken, GW1FKY reports: With reference to the question about satellite operation for this years "International Lighthouse /Lightship " events ( ILL ) dates Saturday 20 th and Sunday 21st august 2016. Over here in Wales ( United Kingdom ) the " Barry Amateur Radio Society " will be operating from a twin pair of lighthouses located at "NASH POINT" situated on the coast of the Bristol Channel - South Wales. We will be limited to operation during approx. 0700 -1600 hrs GMT only I regret to say. " In addition to operating on the HF and VHF bands I also plan to set up my portable satellite equipment for operation and contacts during suitable passes" Callsign /Lighthouse and details as follows GC6BRC - Lighthouse ( High ) Ref: UK0071: GC4BRS - Lighthouse ( Low ) Ref: UK0072 Locator Ref: IO81FJ QSL Manager : MW0DHF (Philip King) Weather is not looking to good - hopefully it will not deter our plans for operation. [ANS thanks Ken, GW1FKY and AMSAT-UK for the above information] YX0V DXpedition to Aves Island to Include Satellite Operations The YX0V DXpedition to Aves Island, scheduled for August 31, 2016 ? September 10, 2016, will include satellite operations. Aves Island, a dependency of Venezuela located west of Dominica and Guadeloupe in the Caribbean Sea (grid FK85eq), is currently the 17th most wanted DXCC entity on the Club Log DXCC Most-Wanted List and was last on the air in 2007. It was active on satellite during the YV0D expedition in 2004, but only three QSOs were made before the DXpedition was cut short due to rain. Satellite plans are yet to be finalized. YX0V information can be found on their website at http://yx0v.com/, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/yx0v2016, and on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/groups/yx0v2016/ [ANS thanks Paul, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Joe Spier, K6WAO k6wao at amsat dot org From AJ9N at aol.com Sun Aug 21 06:29:05 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 02:29:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC Message-ID: <412ec.43f00845.44eaa431@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Kopernik Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Contact was successful: Thu 2016-08-18 16:24:42 UTC 29 deg (***) Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via 8J4DISS The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact was successful: Sat 2016-08-20 08:50:19 UTC 42 deg (***) The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, direct via N9DR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC 42 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121 (***) Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1080. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1045. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From dan at post.com Sun Aug 21 11:33:02 2016 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 12:33:02 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan In-Reply-To: <1F8F26EC65494F16AF9BFB321C70D424@DHJ> References: <1F8F26EC65494F16AF9BFB321C70D424@DHJ> Message-ID: Here is the video from this ARISS contact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcoPW5Ex-I On 19/08/2016, n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: > An International Space Station school contact has been planned with > participants at Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan on 20 Aug. The > event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:50 UTC. The duration of the > contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be > direct between NA1SS and 8J4DISS. The contact should be audible over Japan > and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the > 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in Japanese. > > > > > > > ???? > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > > > > > > > > > ?????????????????????????????? > > > > ???????????????????????????? > > > > ????????????????????????????????? > > > > ???????????????????????????????? > > > > ?????????????????????????????????? > > > > ????????????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????????????? > > > > ?????????????????????????? > > > > ????????????????????????? > > > > ?????????????????????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????? > > ?????????????????????????????? > > > > ?????????????????????????????????? > > > > ???????????????????????? > > > > ???????????????????????????????? > > > > ????????????????????????? > > > > ?????????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????????? > > > > ???????????????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????????????? > > > > ???????????????????????????????????????? > > > > ??????? ??????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????????? > > > > > > > > Translation: > > > > Daisen elementary school is a small elementary school located near national > park Daisen. This year, our school have 76 children. And our students are > learning under the abundant environment naturally. All contact members are 6 > grade (11 or 12 old). > > > > > > Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: > > > > 1. What is the most beautiful planet which you can see from ISS? > > 2. What is your opportunity to try for astronaut? > > 3. What do you think the best thing you went out space? > > 4. What is your daily routine at the ISS? > > 5. What is Onisi-san?s most important research at the ISS? > > 6. What are the inconveniences being in the ISS? > > 7. What are the difficulties wearing? > > 8. How do you make an effort to be astronaut? > > 9. Did you discover something in your experiment? > > 10. Which astronaut is your role model? > > 11. Please tell us the difference between the stars from the earth and > > space. > > 12. What kind of exercise do you do at the ISS? > > 13. Where is the most beautiful place of the earth that you can see from > > space? > > 14. Please tell us the most difficult thing in zero gravity? > > 15. What surprised you most in space? > > 16. What is the most popular food at the ISS? > > 17. What do you do when you have free time? > > 18. What do you want to eat first when you?ll come back to the earth? > > 19. Please tell us your daily schedule. > > 20. How do you feel when you start from the earth? > > 21. Please tell us about your experimental result. > > 22. What is your role in the ISS? > > 23. How many astronaut and from what country? > > 24. How do you plan to save water at the ISS? > > 25. What kind of animals do you have at the ISS? > > 26. What was your first meal in space? > > > > > > > > PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: > > > > Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the > > International Space Station (ARISS). > > > > To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status > > > > > > Next planned event(s): > > > > 1. The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, dir. via > > N9DR. The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS > > The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ > > Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC > > > > > > About ARISS: > > Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative > venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that > support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, > sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American > Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in > Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). > The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, > engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts > via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in > classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced > amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a > variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, > teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, > and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, > and www.arrl.org. > > > > Thank you & 73, > > David ? AA4KN > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From skristof at etczone.com Sun Aug 21 13:12:22 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 09:12:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation Message-ID: Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter: " A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission that exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission. First, music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is processed on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent back to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. " Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio service? Steve AI9IN From k9jkm at comcast.net Sun Aug 21 13:29:09 2016 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 08:29:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002a01d1fbaf$ffe26250$ffa726f0$@net> > Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States > amateur radio service? This isn't a United States satellite. The article also mentions: > ... countries participating in the BIRDS project, Japan, Ghana, > Mongolia, Nigeria and Bangladesh ... Planning a JAXA sponsored > deployment -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From g0mrf at aol.com Sun Aug 21 15:33:34 2016 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:33:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation Message-ID: <156adbc5036-281e-1c3d@webprd-m60.mail.aol.com> Hi Steve. It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the UK. I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either. Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio spectrum. Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the frequency coordination request the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put on hold. On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the music if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast area' !! Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant. Regards David G0MRF Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter: " A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission that exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission. First, music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is processed on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent back to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. " Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio service? Steve AI9IN From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Aug 21 15:38:06 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:38:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation In-Reply-To: <156adbc5036-281e-1c3d@webprd-m60.mail.aol.com> References: <156adbc5036-281e-1c3d@webprd-m60.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: David, Horyu-4 received IARU coordination ( http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=434) and includes a similar digisinger, programmed with the Japanese national anthem. Here's a clip of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUAde9nMW1A As for your last point, I would hope that any music they planned to upload would be public domain! 73, Paul, N8HM On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:33 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > Hi Steve. > > It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in > the UK. > I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either. > > Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio > spectrum. > > Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the > frequency coordination request > the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put > on hold. > > On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the > music if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast > area' !! > Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant. > > Regards > > David G0MRF > > > > Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter: > > " A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission > that > exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission. > First, > music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is > processed > on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent > back > to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. " > > Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio > service? > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sun Aug 21 18:23:14 2016 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 18:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation In-Reply-To: References: <156adbc5036-281e-1c3d@webprd-m60.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <285088790.29235889.1471803794672.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Just to clarify the comment: "It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the UK." The UK amateur radio license has not prohibited Music since 2006. There is very little in terms of Content that is prohibited by the UK license. The only specific Content prohibition that I recall is: - a message, communication or other matter in whatever form that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character. [Notes (h)] A copy of the current UK license terms and conditions can be seen at https://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/spectrum/amateur-radio/guidance-for-licensees/amateur-terms.pdf 73 Trevor M5AKA On Sunday, 21 August 2016, 16:38, Paul Stoetzer wrote: David, Horyu-4 received IARU coordination ( http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=434) and includes a similar digisinger, programmed with the Japanese national anthem. Here's a clip of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUAde9nMW1A As for your last point, I would hope that any music they planned to upload would be public domain! 73, Paul, N8HM On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:33 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > Hi Steve. > > It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in > the UK. > I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either. > > Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio > spectrum. > > Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the > frequency coordination request > the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put > on hold. > > On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the > music if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast > area' !! > Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant. > > Regards > > David? G0MRF > > > > Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter: > > " A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission > that > exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission. > First, > music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is > processed > on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent > back > to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. " > > Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio > service? > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From plaws0 at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 18:39:34 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 13:39:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation In-Reply-To: <285088790.29235889.1471803794672.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <156adbc5036-281e-1c3d@webprd-m60.mail.aol.com> <285088790.29235889.1471803794672.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 1:23 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Just to clarify the comment: "It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the UK." > The UK amateur radio license has not prohibited Music since 2006. The US regs at 47CFR97.113, especially the prohibitions on music, broadcasting, and passing messages for hire date back to the earliest regs when the commercial radio co's didn't want the competition. I don't know when those were added but it was not at the very beginning, since many stations with amateur license were known to broadcast music and other programming once radiotelephone became practical. Plenty of US "radio station lists" from pre-1925 are online now, but I've not seen copies of the contemporary amateur radio rules. Would be interesting to see when that stuff started. I'm really not interested in hearing music on amateur radio, nor broadcasting, beyond the exceptions the FCC has had to make in the US rules. I can ignore music on the broadcast bands and satellite radio and don't want to have to ignore it on the amateur bands, too! -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From w4tas at gte.net Sun Aug 21 19:17:54 2016 From: w4tas at gte.net (Tony Stone) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:17:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music Message-ID: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com> I have edited out all non music related parts. Part 97 : Sec. 97.113 Prohibited transmissions (a) No amateur station shall transmit: (4) Music using a phone emission except as specifically provided elsewhere in this section; communications intended to facilitate a criminal act; messages encoded for the purpose of obscuring their meaning, except as otherwise provided herein; obscene or indecent words or language; or false or deceptive messages, signals or identification. (c) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from any type of radio station other than an amateur station, except propagation and weather forecast information intended for use by the general public and originated from United States Government stations, and communications, including incidental music, originating on United States Government frequencies between a manned spacecraft and its associated Earth stations. Prior approval for manned spacecraft communications retransmissions must be obtained from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Such retransmissions must be for the exclusive use of amateur radio operators. Propagation, weather forecasts, and manned spacecraft communications retransmissions may not be conducted on a regular basis, but only occasionally, as an incident of normal amateur radio communications. [58 FR 43072, Aug. 13, 1993; 58 FR 47219, Sept. 8, 1993, as amended at 71 FR 25982, May 3, 2006; 71 FR 66462, Nov. 15, 2006; 75 FR 46857, Aug. 4, 2010] Tony Stone w4tas at gte.net From kk5do at amsat.org Sun Aug 21 19:37:08 2016 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:37:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music In-Reply-To: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com> References: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <0ed75b81-6f0a-7e68-f34c-c8e38e78dda6@amsat.org> This is all a moot point as the BIRDS satellites are not built, owned, or operated by United States hams. No FCC regulation can govern their operation. Is this not similar to pirate radio stations that sit just outside the U.S. territorial waters and transmit their radio shows that can be heard stateside? They are only governed by ITU rules and not FCC rules. Rules around the world are different and what is allowed in one country may not be allowed in another. That's just the way it is. The BIRDS can do whatever is legal in their country and if they really wanted to make it unavailable while over the United States to appease the FCC, they can put an on/off switch based on GPS coordinates and then we would miss out on the fun of receiving the satellite. Could you just imagine if every builder of a satellite had to abide by the rules of every country in the world that their satellite will pass over or be in range to hear it? What a nightmare that would become. 73...bruce On 8/21/2016 2:17 PM, Tony Stone wrote: > I have edited out all non music related parts. > > > Part 97 : Sec. 97.113 Prohibited transmissions > (a) No amateur station shall transmit: > > > > > > > (4) Music using a phone emission except as specifically provided > elsewhere in this section; communications intended to facilitate > a criminal act; messages encoded for the purpose of obscuring their > meaning, except as otherwise provided herein; obscene or indecent > words or language; or false or deceptive messages, signals or > identification. > > > > > (c) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from > any type of radio station other than an amateur station, except > propagation and weather forecast information intended for use by > the general public and originated from United States Government > stations, and communications, including incidental music, > originating on United States Government frequencies between a > manned spacecraft and its associated Earth stations. Prior approval > for manned spacecraft communications retransmissions must be obtained > from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Such > retransmissions must be for the exclusive use of amateur radio > operators. Propagation, weather forecasts, and manned spacecraft > communications retransmissions may not be conducted on a regular > basis, but only occasionally, as an incident of normal amateur > radio communications. > > > > > [58 FR 43072, Aug. 13, 1993; 58 FR 47219, Sept. 8, 1993, as amended > at 71 FR 25982, May 3, 2006; 71 FR 66462, Nov. 15, 2006; 75 FR 46857, > Aug. 4, 2010] > > > > > Tony Stone > w4tas at gte.net > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From plaws0 at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 19:43:51 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:43:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music In-Reply-To: <0ed75b81-6f0a-7e68-f34c-c8e38e78dda6@amsat.org> References: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com> <0ed75b81-6f0a-7e68-f34c-c8e38e78dda6@amsat.org> Message-ID: On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Bruce wrote: > The BIRDS can do whatever is legal in their country and if they really > wanted to make it unavailable while over the United States to appease the > FCC, they can put an on/off switch based on GPS coordinates and then we > would miss out on the fun of receiving the satellite. How well does GPS work with satellites in LEO? (NavStars are in higher orbit, right?) Is it accurate? You'd have to sort of do a reverse bank shot thing because you're not dealing with the satellite's position, but the position of its footprint. How would that work? I see lots of math in someone's future! :-D -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From wa4sca at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 19:51:43 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:51:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music In-Reply-To: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com> References: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <000001d1fbe5$71d28680$55779380$@GMAIL.COM> A couple of things to keep in mind. First, satellites are not governed by the rules of the Amateur Radio Service. (ARS) They are governed by the Amateur Satellite Service. (ASS) Really! Second, FCC or Ofcom rules are irrelevant if the satellite is registered in another country. In that case, they are governed by their National Regulatory Agency, and any applicable international treaties. In other words, while researching this, make very certain you are looking at relevant sources. This very issue came up 20-25 years ago, raised a loud ruckus, and was at the time perfectly legal. 73s, Alan WA4SCA From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Aug 21 19:53:13 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:53:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music In-Reply-To: References: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com> <0ed75b81-6f0a-7e68-f34c-c8e38e78dda6@amsat.org> Message-ID: GPS works fine in orbit. Several LEOs have carried GPS receivers. It even works above the constellation to some extent, a capability proven by the experimental GPS receiver on AO-40 (one of the many scientific achievements credited to AMSAT satellites). 73, Paul, N8HM On Sunday, August 21, 2016, Peter Laws wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Bruce > > wrote: > > The BIRDS can do whatever is legal in their country and if they really > > wanted to make it unavailable while over the United States to appease the > > FCC, they can put an on/off switch based on GPS coordinates and then we > > would miss out on the fun of receiving the satellite. > > How well does GPS work with satellites in LEO? (NavStars are in > higher orbit, right?) Is it accurate? You'd have to sort of do a > reverse bank shot thing because you're not dealing with the > satellite's position, but the position of its footprint. How would > that work? I see lots of math in someone's future! :-D > > > > -- > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bruninga at usna.edu Sun Aug 21 20:06:58 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:06:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC Part 97 Regulations on transmission of music In-Reply-To: References: <156ae89af60-69ad-718@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com> <0ed75b81-6f0a-7e68-f34c-c8e38e78dda6@amsat.org> Message-ID: PCSAT carried one of the first GPS's to obit in 2001. Maybe sometime during its next good power period, I should turn it on... hummh... On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > GPS works fine in orbit. Several LEOs have carried GPS receivers. > > It even works above the constellation to some extent, a capability proven > by the experimental GPS receiver on AO-40 (one of the many scientific > achievements credited to AMSAT satellites). > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Sunday, August 21, 2016, Peter Laws wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Bruce > > > wrote: > > > The BIRDS can do whatever is legal in their country and if they really > > > wanted to make it unavailable while over the United States to appease > the > > > FCC, they can put an on/off switch based on GPS coordinates and then we > > > would miss out on the fun of receiving the satellite. > > > > How well does GPS work with satellites in LEO? (NavStars are in > > higher orbit, right?) Is it accurate? You'd have to sort of do a > > reverse bank shot thing because you're not dealing with the > > satellite's position, but the position of its footprint. How would > > that work? I see lots of math in someone's future! :-D > > > > > > > > -- > > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > > forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From g.shirville at btinternet.com Sun Aug 21 20:16:10 2016 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 21:16:10 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Mode change Message-ID: <785B5B993E724CA7BEC2D6631445BDFB@allgood.local> Hi All, I can report that FUNcube-1 is now autonomously switching between sunlight and eclipse operation. Full time transponder operation should resume next weekend. 73 Graham G3VZV From dan at post.com Sun Aug 21 21:43:48 2016 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 22:43:48 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite_ 2.4 Ghz / 10.5 Ghz dual-band feed In-Reply-To: <4966f45d-e844-ec58-4366-d21eb1cb8d3a@amsat-dl.org> References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org> <4966f45d-e844-ec58-4366-d21eb1cb8d3a@amsat-dl.org> Message-ID: I have documented the new combined feed for EsHail from Germany. Coverage is not available in North America but for everyone else .... http://www.batc.org.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=101 There is a DIY version (prototype) here: http://remco.org/index.php/2016/06/03/eshail2-dual-band-dish-feed/ Dan EI9FHB From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 22 04:34:56 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:34:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN on 23 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 15:09 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and N9DR. The contact should be audible over portions of the mid U.S. and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Founded in 1925, the Children's Museum of Indianapolis creates immersive, interdisciplinary experiences that promote inquiry-based family learning across the arts, sciences, and humanities. The museum is a 473,000 square foot, five-level facility that houses 11 permanent exhibit galleries, two traveling exhibit spaces, a children's theater, a planetarium, a public library, a preschool, and a collection of more than 115,000 artifacts and objects. Most recently, the Children's Museum opened Beyond Spaceship Earth, and immersive exhibit focused on human space travel. Beyond Spaceship Earth features three components: a recreation of portions of the inside of the International Space Station (ISS); a one-of-a-kind, immersive space object experience called the Schaefer Planetarium & Space Object Theater; and an Astronaut Wall of Fame, which will pay tribute to more than 30 astronauts with ties to Indiana. Hosting more than one million visitors each year, the museum has received numerous accolades, including being named one of the top 3 science centers in the country by Family Fun magazine. The museum has been ranked as the number one children's museum by Forbes.com. Through a variety of free and discounted admission programs for underserved populations, as well as its community outreach efforts targeting local neighborhood residents and urban public schools, the Museum ensures that its visitor population is diverse. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. How do astronauts get the water they need? 2. What experiments are you conducting on the ISS? 3. Do you have any free time while on the ISS and if so, what do you do? 4. How many personal items do you bring with you to outer space and what types of items do you bring? 5. Do you have plants on the ISS and if so, how do you grow them. What type of food do you eat? 6. How does lack of gravity affect the body? 7. I know you have astronauts from different countries. How do you communicate with each other? 8. What do you do with all of your trash while you are in space? 9. How long do you train before you are ready for a mission? 10. What is it like to sleep in space? 11. What is it like to do an EVA? 12. What is the most difficult task for you to do in space? 13. What happens if you need spare parts to fix something on the space station. 14. What happens to your body while you are in space? 15. What is the biggest lesson you have learned while being in space? 16. Without the ability to get fresh air into the space station, what does the ISS smell like? 17. What advice would you give to kids who want to be an astronaut? 18. What is your least favorite thing to do in space and why? 19. What is your favorite part of being an astronaut on the ISS? 20. What is your favorite food on the ISS? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jerry.tuyls at telenet.be Mon Aug 22 11:27:56 2016 From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be (jerry.tuyls at telenet.be) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite_ 2.4 Ghz / 10.5 Ghz dual-band feed In-Reply-To: References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org> <4966f45d-e844-ec58-4366-d21eb1cb8d3a@amsat-dl.org> Message-ID: <2047697762.216447972.1471865275993.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Hoi Daniel, I have some different feeds for 10GHz from Johannes, and they all work FB. He makes it on the frequency you want,including measurement report/plot, good service! I made myself a dualband feed, it is a helix for 13cm and a ringfeed for 10ghz within the helix. No further hardware yet, but we have time enough to look around,hi. DG0VE has some nice stuff for that sat,maybe you've seen him in Friedrhafen. 73's Jerry ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Daniel Cussen" Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org Verzonden: Zondag 21 augustus 2016 23:43:48 Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite_ 2.4 Ghz / 10.5 Ghz dual-band feed I have documented the new combined feed for EsHail from Germany. Coverage is not available in North America but for everyone else .... http://www.batc.org.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=101 There is a DIY version (prototype) here: http://remco.org/index.php/2016/06/03/eshail2-dual-band-dish-feed/ Dan EI9FHB _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Aug 22 14:46:47 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 10:46:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] High side current sensor chips? Message-ID: <5db34f631253e082c36d9bb9ac4c6d4f@mail.gmail.com> What are people using on their cubesats (etc) for current sensors? The MAX-471 we have been using since 2001 (PCSAT) in all our designs are now obsolete. We want a chip with internal shunt and up to say 2 amps or so. Bob, WB4APR From g0mrf at aol.com Mon Aug 22 15:46:18 2016 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:46:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re High side current sensor chips? Message-ID: <156b2ee51ea-19d9-69e2@webprd-a63.mail.aol.com> Hi Bob. We have used numerous INA194 chips from Texas Instruments. They run from the supply that's being monitored. Can send the circuit and layout image if you wish David G0MRF What are people using on their cubesats (etc) for current sensors? The MAX-471 we have been using since 2001 (PCSAT) in all our designs are now obsolete. We want a chip with internal shunt and up to say 2 amps or so. Bob, WB4APR From PeteW2JV at verizon.net Mon Aug 22 16:16:03 2016 From: PeteW2JV at verizon.net (W2JV) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:16:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: CY9C Message-ID: <0E72AA5359B64C2A8C064960113009FF@PeterPC> Update from CY9C: Pete--an update on LEO. We've had some setbacks. First, there were logistical issues getting people to this uninhabited Island and dealing with setting up under difficult conditions. Then last night a storm hit. Took out our EME array and knocked down the partially assembled sat yagis. Our G5500 suffered some damage. Not sure of its status; we're about to get some high winds again so we put it away. Soon as WX clears we'll test it. If it's toast, we might be able to use the G5500 from the EME setup. Worse comes to worse, I'll use the Arrow. Thanks! 73 Pat N2IEN 73?s Peter W2JV From k4feg at k4feg.com Mon Aug 22 17:19:08 2016 From: k4feg at k4feg.com (K4FEG) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:19:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Update Message-ID: <57BB340C.5000008@k4feg.com> Hello All: Fresh from *Pat, N2IEN*, a status report on the *CY9C* operations from *Sable Island*. I am sure most of you know that they have had high winds & sustained antenna systems damage, here is Pat's update this morning: /To: W2JV// //Subject: CY9C // //// //Pete--an update on LEO. We've had some setbacks. First, there were logistical issues getting people to this uninhabited Island and dealing with setting up under difficult conditions. Then last night a storm hit. Took out our EME array and knocked down the partially assembled sat yagis. Our G5500 suffered some damage. Not sure of its status; we're about to get some high winds again so we put it away. Soon as wx clears we'll test it. If it's toast, we might be able to use the G5500 from the EME setup. Worse comes to worse, I'll use the Arrow. Please pass this info on to AMSAT members. // //Thanks! // //73 Pat N2IEN / This may or may not result in limited satellite operations. /*Stay Tuned folks,*//* *//*73*//* *//*K4FEG*/ From n0jy at amsat.org Mon Aug 22 17:23:16 2016 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:23:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re High side current sensor chips? In-Reply-To: <156b2ee51ea-19d9-69e2@webprd-a63.mail.aol.com> References: <156b2ee51ea-19d9-69e2@webprd-a63.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <6676aa3e-9bf9-1b85-71d4-c00fab2f85fb@amsat.org> We use INA199B3 on the Fox-1 CubeSats. I can provide you the schematic or you'll find it in the 2015 Space Symposium Proceedings page 340, if you are interested. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/22/2016 10:46, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi Bob. > > We have used numerous INA194 chips from Texas Instruments. > They run from the supply that's being monitored. > > Can send the circuit and layout image if you wish > > David G0MRF > > > What are people using on their cubesats (etc) for current sensors? > > The MAX-471 we have been using since 2001 (PCSAT) in all our designs are > now obsolete. > > > > We want a chip with internal shunt and up to say 2 amps or so. > > > > Bob, WB4APR > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From k.alexander at rogers.com Mon Aug 22 18:10:54 2016 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 18:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) References: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'm happy to announce a grid expedition to Moosonee, ON, which is in EO91. I will be arriving early afternoon on Friday September 23rd and leaving late afternoon Monday September 26th. That gives me four days to put EO91 on the air via satellite. Moosonee is a Cree village located on the Moose River, which empties into James Bay, about 15 km downstream. It's someplace I have always wanted to visit and when I'm not on the air I will be wandering through the town, photographing things of interest. By land, Moosonee is only accessible by train; The Polar Bear Express that runs from Cochrane, ON. It's also accessible by air at much greater expense. I will be driving to Cochrane and taking a few days to get there, which will enable me to activate other grids along the way, such as FN06, FN07, FN08, EN98 and EN99. Why not EO90? There's nothing there! There appear to be two roads into EO90 from the south, but I'm not taking my Volkswagen on them. Cochrane is at the bottom edge of EN99, so it would be a very long day's drive on unknown roads to even set foot in EO90 and return to Cochrane. Plus, as far as I can tell, there are no gas stations, food stops, accommodations or cellphone service along the way. If you break down you are well and truly screwed until someone finds you. Maybe some other time. The Polar Bear Express has "flag stops" in EO90, where by prearrangement they will drop you off at the side of the track at one of several predetermined locations. Some of them are at power dams on the Abitibi River, where they are not set up to accommodate unexpected guests. Other flag stops are in the middle of nowhere, and have probably been set up decades ago to pick up and drop off prospectors and trappers. The only part of the trip that is carved in stone at the moment are the days in Moosonee (EO91) itself. I'll start working out an on-air schedule based on what SatPC32 can tell me. Times will change slightly as we get closer to the date. Things are more fluid regarding the days before the train trip to Moosonee, but I have allowed about 3 or 4 days to get to Cochrane, which ought to be sufficient to operate a little from most of the grids I mentioned. Updates will appear on Twitter. More verbose notifications will appear here. Regards, Ken VE3HLS From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 22 18:18:18 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:18:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Update In-Reply-To: <57BB340C.5000008@k4feg.com> References: <57BB340C.5000008@k4feg.com> Message-ID: Correction: CY9 is St. Paul Island, not Sable Island (which is CY0). 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:19 PM, K4FEG wrote: > Hello All: > > Fresh from *Pat, N2IEN*, a status report on the *CY9C* operations from > *Sable Island*. > > I am sure most of you know that they have had high winds & sustained > antenna systems damage, here is Pat's update this morning: > > /To: W2JV// > //Subject: CY9C // > //// > //Pete--an update on LEO. We've had some setbacks. > First, there were logistical issues getting people to this uninhabited > Island and dealing with setting up under difficult conditions. Then last > night a storm hit. Took out our EME array and knocked down the partially > assembled sat yagis. Our G5500 suffered some damage. > Not sure of its status; we're about to get some high winds again so we put > it away. > Soon as wx clears we'll test it. If it's toast, we might be able to use > the G5500 from the EME setup. > Worse comes to worse, I'll use the Arrow. Please pass this info on to > AMSAT members. // > //Thanks! // > //73 > Pat N2IEN / > > This may or may not result in limited satellite operations. > > /*Stay Tuned folks,*//* > *//*73*//* > *//*K4FEG*/ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From KB2HSH at amsat.org Mon Aug 22 18:50:39 2016 From: KB2HSH at amsat.org (John Marranca, Jr) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:50:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO84 APRS Message-ID: I have been interested in the PSAT NO84 satellite. The downlink of 145.825 is mentioned in many places. Is the uplink ALSO 145.825 MHz??? From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Aug 22 18:59:20 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:59:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO84 APRS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6947cf4b5f0863a39a628c2bd8105b73@mail.gmail.com> Yes, it is APRS on 145.825 with the path of ARISS or APRSAT if the digi is on. Bob, WB4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Marranca, Jr Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 2:51 PM To: amsat-bb Subject: [amsat-bb] NO84 APRS I have been interested in the PSAT NO84 satellite. The downlink of 145.825 is mentioned in many places. Is the uplink ALSO 145.825 MHz??? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From howied231 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 22 19:02:18 2016 From: howied231 at hotmail.com (Howie DeFelice) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 15:02:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] High side current sensor chips? In-Reply-To: <5db34f631253e082c36d9bb9ac4c6d4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5db34f631253e082c36d9bb9ac4c6d4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On $50sat we used the ZXCT1009 three terminal sensor. This requires an external shunt but allows allot of flexibility for scaling the sense voltage and now has "flight heritage". Howie AB2S > From: bruninga at usna.edu > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 10:46:47 -0400 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] High side current sensor chips? > > What are people using on their cubesats (etc) for current sensors? > > The MAX-471 we have been using since 2001 (PCSAT) in all our designs are > now obsolete. > > > > We want a chip with internal shunt and up to say 2 amps or so. > > > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From almetco at comcast.net Mon Aug 22 18:57:38 2016 From: almetco at comcast.net (Greg) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:57:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) In-Reply-To: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5409EE45-FAC3-49AB-BC12-B7CF48B3551F@comcast.net> Ken, Did that trip many years ago when I was a much younger man. No doubt it?s a rather sparsely populated grid as well as adventuresome. Did an over night flag stop to go canoeing. It was the late 1970?s when I was hardier and braver! Not one to argue with bear and moose these days! Hope to hear you during your trip. Greg N3MVF On Aug 22, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Ken Alexander wrote: I'm happy to announce a grid expedition to Moosonee, ON, which is in EO91. I will be arriving early afternoon on Friday September 23rd and leaving late afternoon Monday September 26th. That gives me four days to put EO91 on the air via satellite. Moosonee is a Cree village located on the Moose River, which empties into James Bay, about 15 km downstream. It's someplace I have always wanted to visit and when I'm not on the air I will be wandering through the town, photographing things of interest. By land, Moosonee is only accessible by train; The Polar Bear Express that runs from Cochrane, ON. It's also accessible by air at much greater expense. I will be driving to Cochrane and taking a few days to get there, which will enable me to activate other grids along the way, such as FN06, FN07, FN08, EN98 and EN99. Why not EO90? There's nothing there! There appear to be two roads into EO90 from the south, but I'm not taking my Volkswagen on them. Cochrane is at the bottom edge of EN99, so it would be a very long day's drive on unknown roads to even set foot in EO90 and return to Cochrane. Plus, as far as I can tell, there are no gas stations, food stops, accommodations or cellphone service along the way. If you break down you are well and truly screwed until someone finds you. Maybe some other time. The Polar Bear Express has "flag stops" in EO90, where by prearrangement they will drop you off at the side of the track at one of several predetermined locations. Some of them are at power dams on the Abitibi River, where they are not set up to accommodate unexpected guests. Other flag stops are in the middle of nowhere, and have probably been set up decades ago to pick up and drop off prospectors and trappers. The only part of the trip that is carved in stone at the moment are the days in Moosonee (EO91) itself. I'll start working out an on-air schedule based on what SatPC32 can tell me. Times will change slightly as we get closer to the date. Things are more fluid regarding the days before the train trip to Moosonee, but I have allowed about 3 or 4 days to get to Cochrane, which ought to be sufficient to operate a little from most of the grids I mentioned. Updates will appear on Twitter. More verbose notifications will appear here. Regards, Ken VE3HLS _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From planophore at aei.ca Mon Aug 22 18:51:44 2016 From: planophore at aei.ca (planophore at aei.ca) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 18:51:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) In-Reply-To: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201608221851.u7MIpiC0024426@web001.aei.ca> Ken, Sounds like a marvelous late summer DxPedition. I have been to Moosonee many times, by train (Polar Bear Express) and by air (fixed wing and helicopter). The Polar Bear Express is nice train ride. I used to like in Kapuskasing and Timmins (1988 through 2000, worked at the airport Flight Service Station). I have been up both sides of James too. Didn't have the opportunity to take Ham radio along for the ride though. If you get a chance, take a ride across the river to Moose Factory Island. It is more of the center of activity. Moosonee is also a good spot to watch for aurora, you may get lucky and see some, make sure to have a look after dark. Good luck, hope you make many contacts from the Near North. cheers, Graham ve3gtc On 8/22/2016, "Ken Alexander" wrote: >I'm happy to announce a grid expedition to Moosonee, ON, which is in EO91. I will be arriving early afternoon on Friday September 23rd and leaving late afternoon Monday September 26th. That gives me four days to put EO91 on the air via satellite. > >Moosonee is a Cree village located on the Moose River, which empties into James Bay, about 15 km downstream. It's someplace I have always wanted to visit and when I'm not on the air I will be wandering through the town, photographing things of interest. > >By land, Moosonee is only accessible by train; The Polar Bear Express that runs from Cochrane, ON. It's also accessible by air at much greater expense. I will be driving to Cochrane and taking a few days to get there, which will enable me to activate other grids along the way, such as FN06, FN07, FN08, EN98 and EN99. > >Why not EO90? There's nothing there! There appear to be two roads into EO90 from the south, but I'm not taking my Volkswagen on them. Cochrane is at the bottom edge of EN99, so it would be a very long day's drive on unknown roads to even set foot in EO90 and return to Cochrane. Plus, as far as I can tell, there are no gas stations, food stops, accommodations or cellphone service along the way. If you break down you are well and truly screwed until someone finds you. Maybe some other time. > >The Polar Bear Express has "flag stops" in EO90, where by prearrangement they will drop you off at the side of the track at one of several predetermined locations. Some of them are at power dams on the Abitibi River, where they are not set up to accommodate unexpected guests. Other flag stops are in the middle of nowhere, and have probably been set up decades ago to pick up and drop off prospectors and trappers. > >The only part of the trip that is carved in stone at the moment are the days in Moosonee (EO91) itself. I'll start working out an on-air schedule based on what SatPC32 can tell me. Times will change slightly as we get closer to the date. Things are more fluid regarding the days before the train trip to Moosonee, but I have allowed about 3 or 4 days to get to Cochrane, which ought to be sufficient to operate a little from most of the grids I mentioned. > >Updates will appear on Twitter. More verbose notifications will appear here. > >Regards, > >Ken >VE3HLS > From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Aug 22 20:52:34 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) In-Reply-To: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <595028847.359930.1471899154774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Ken, Sounds like an excellent trip. ?I'm jealous! I'd love to get upthere some day. BTW, my Fall Grid Trip this year will have me in that generalarea. The first week of September will take me to SS Marie, Chapleau,Timmins, Cochrane, Hearst and Wawa. My main objective is toactivate EN88 & 89 which I missed on last year's trip up North. Getting into EO by vehicle north of Route 11 would be a verydifficult challenge. Even though I have an AWD SUV, I'm not willingto drive 100 miles each way on dirt/gravel roads with no service orfacilities to make a few QSO's - HIHI Good Luck & Safe Travels, Bob - K8BL From: Ken Alexander To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 2:10 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) I'm happy to announce a grid expedition to Moosonee, ON, which is in EO91.? I will be arriving early afternoon on Friday September 23rd and leaving late afternoon Monday September 26th.? That gives me four days to put EO91 on the air via satellite. Moosonee is a Cree village located on the Moose River, which empties into James Bay, about 15 km downstream.? It's someplace I have always wanted to visit and when I'm not on the air I will be wandering through the town, photographing things of interest. By land, Moosonee is only accessible by train; The Polar Bear Express that runs from Cochrane, ON.? It's also accessible by air at much greater expense.? I will be driving to Cochrane and taking a few days to get there, which will enable me to activate other grids along the way, such as FN06, FN07, FN08, EN98 and EN99. Why not EO90?? There's nothing there!? There appear to be two roads into EO90 from the south, but I'm not taking my Volkswagen on them.? Cochrane is at the bottom edge of EN99, so it would be a very long day's drive on unknown roads to even set foot in EO90 and return to Cochrane.? Plus, as far as I can tell, there are no gas stations, food stops, accommodations or cellphone service along the way.? If you break down you are well and truly screwed until someone finds you.? Maybe some other time. The Polar Bear Express has "flag stops" in EO90, where by prearrangement they will drop you off at the side of the track at one of several predetermined locations.? Some of them are at power dams on the Abitibi River, where they are not set up to accommodate unexpected guests.? Other flag stops are in the middle of nowhere, and have probably been set up decades ago to pick up and drop off prospectors and trappers. The only part of the trip that is carved in stone at the moment are the days in Moosonee (EO91) itself.? I'll start working out an on-air schedule based on what SatPC32 can tell me.? Times will change slightly as we get closer to the date.? Things are more fluid regarding the days before the train trip to Moosonee, but I have allowed about 3 or 4 days to get to Cochrane, which ought to be sufficient to operate a little from most of the grids I mentioned. Updates will appear on Twitter.? More verbose notifications will appear here. Regards, Ken VE3HLS _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k.alexander at rogers.com Mon Aug 22 22:17:19 2016 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 18:17:19 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) In-Reply-To: <201608221851.u7MIpiC0024426@web001.aei.ca> References: <201608221851.u7MIpiC0024426@web001.aei.ca> Message-ID: <5a847e50-18cc-d3eb-cdf8-14070bf74771@rogers.com> Hi Graham, I was originally thinking of going to Waskaganish (Ft. Rupert) not far from Moosonee. You can drive there, and I liked the idea of having my car with me. However, it's twice the amount of driving and through a very remote area. I wouldn't care to do it alone. There also appears to be more to do in Moosonee. I'll definitely check out Moose Factory as well! Hope to work you! 73, Ken VE3HLS On 2016-08-22 2:51 PM, planophore at aei.ca wrote: > Ken, > > Sounds like a marvelous late summer DxPedition. > > I have been to Moosonee many times, by train (Polar Bear Express) and by > air (fixed wing and helicopter). The Polar Bear Express is nice train > ride. I used to like in Kapuskasing and Timmins (1988 through 2000, > worked at the airport Flight Service Station). I have been up both sides > of James too. Didn't have the opportunity to take Ham radio along for > the ride though. > > If you get a chance, take a ride across the river to Moose Factory > Island. It is more of the center of activity. Moosonee is also a good > spot to watch for aurora, you may get lucky and see some, make sure to > have a look after dark. > > Good luck, hope you make many contacts from the Near North. > > cheers, Graham ve3gtc > > > > On 8/22/2016, "Ken Alexander" wrote: > >> I'm happy to announce a grid expedition to Moosonee, ON, which is in EO91. I will be arriving early afternoon on Friday September 23rd and leaving late afternoon Monday September 26th. That gives me four days to put EO91 on the air via satellite. >> >> Moosonee is a Cree village located on the Moose River, which empties into James Bay, about 15 km downstream. It's someplace I have always wanted to visit and when I'm not on the air I will be wandering through the town, photographing things of interest. >> >> By land, Moosonee is only accessible by train; The Polar Bear Express that runs from Cochrane, ON. It's also accessible by air at much greater expense. I will be driving to Cochrane and taking a few days to get there, which will enable me to activate other grids along the way, such as FN06, FN07, FN08, EN98 and EN99. >> >> Why not EO90? There's nothing there! There appear to be two roads into EO90 from the south, but I'm not taking my Volkswagen on them. Cochrane is at the bottom edge of EN99, so it would be a very long day's drive on unknown roads to even set foot in EO90 and return to Cochrane. Plus, as far as I can tell, there are no gas stations, food stops, accommodations or cellphone service along the way. If you break down you are well and truly screwed until someone finds you. Maybe some other time. >> >> The Polar Bear Express has "flag stops" in EO90, where by prearrangement they will drop you off at the side of the track at one of several predetermined locations. Some of them are at power dams on the Abitibi River, where they are not set up to accommodate unexpected guests. Other flag stops are in the middle of nowhere, and have probably been set up decades ago to pick up and drop off prospectors and trappers. >> >> The only part of the trip that is carved in stone at the moment are the days in Moosonee (EO91) itself. I'll start working out an on-air schedule based on what SatPC32 can tell me. Times will change slightly as we get closer to the date. Things are more fluid regarding the days before the train trip to Moosonee, but I have allowed about 3 or 4 days to get to Cochrane, which ought to be sufficient to operate a little from most of the grids I mentioned. >> >> Updates will appear on Twitter. More verbose notifications will appear here. >> >> Regards, >> >> Ken >> VE3HLS >> From k.alexander at rogers.com Mon Aug 22 22:37:04 2016 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 18:37:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) In-Reply-To: <5409EE45-FAC3-49AB-BC12-B7CF48B3551F@comcast.net> References: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5409EE45-FAC3-49AB-BC12-B7CF48B3551F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4f292cbb-fe7a-ae73-3ab6-4e674173eb17@rogers.com> Hi Greg, I'm looking forward to the trip! It's been a longtime dream to at least see Hudson or James Bay, so I'm hoping I can get a boat ride down to salt water while I'm there. I remember being hardy and adventuresome back in the 70's. This will have to do for now! Hope to work you! 73, Ken VE3HLS On 2016-08-22 2:57 PM, Greg wrote: > Ken, > > Did that trip many years ago when I was a much younger man. No doubt it?s a rather sparsely populated grid as well as adventuresome. Did an over night flag stop to go canoeing. It was the late 1970?s when I was hardier and braver! Not one to argue with bear and moose these days! > > > Hope to hear you during your trip. > Greg > N3MVF > > On Aug 22, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Ken Alexander wrote: > > I'm happy to announce a grid expedition to Moosonee, ON, which is in EO91. I will be arriving early afternoon on Friday September 23rd and leaving late afternoon Monday September 26th. That gives me four days to put EO91 on the air via satellite. > > Moosonee is a Cree village located on the Moose River, which empties into James Bay, about 15 km downstream. It's someplace I have always wanted to visit and when I'm not on the air I will be wandering through the town, photographing things of interest. > > By land, Moosonee is only accessible by train; The Polar Bear Express that runs from Cochrane, ON. It's also accessible by air at much greater expense. I will be driving to Cochrane and taking a few days to get there, which will enable me to activate other grids along the way, such as FN06, FN07, FN08, EN98 and EN99. > > Why not EO90? There's nothing there! There appear to be two roads into EO90 from the south, but I'm not taking my Volkswagen on them. Cochrane is at the bottom edge of EN99, so it would be a very long day's drive on unknown roads to even set foot in EO90 and return to Cochrane. Plus, as far as I can tell, there are no gas stations, food stops, accommodations or cellphone service along the way. If you break down you are well and truly screwed until someone finds you. Maybe some other time. > > The Polar Bear Express has "flag stops" in EO90, where by prearrangement they will drop you off at the side of the track at one of several predetermined locations. Some of them are at power dams on the Abitibi River, where they are not set up to accommodate unexpected guests. Other flag stops are in the middle of nowhere, and have probably been set up decades ago to pick up and drop off prospectors and trappers. > > The only part of the trip that is carved in stone at the moment are the days in Moosonee (EO91) itself. I'll start working out an on-air schedule based on what SatPC32 can tell me. Times will change slightly as we get closer to the date. Things are more fluid regarding the days before the train trip to Moosonee, but I have allowed about 3 or 4 days to get to Cochrane, which ought to be sufficient to operate a little from most of the grids I mentioned. > > Updates will appear on Twitter. More verbose notifications will appear here. > > Regards, > > Ken > VE3HLS > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From k.alexander at rogers.com Mon Aug 22 22:47:31 2016 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 18:47:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) In-Reply-To: <595028847.359930.1471899154774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <141056327.246752.1471889454426.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <595028847.359930.1471899154774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob, You're going to be in some interesting grids! If you're going to be in Cochrane anyway you should hop the train to Moosonee and at least stay overnight. It leaves Cochrane at 9:00 AM and arrives in Moosonee around 1:30 PM. Next day it leaves for the return trip at 5:00 PM, arriving in Cochrane around 9:30. A train ticket is about Cdn $55 each way. That gives you the better part of 2 days in EO91! There are several B&Bs in Moosonee and I think at least one smallish hotel. 73, Ken VE3HLS On 2016-08-22 4:52 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > Ken, > Sounds like an excellent trip. I'm jealous! I'd love to get upthere some day. > BTW, my Fall Grid Trip this year will have me in that generalarea. The first week of September will take me to SS Marie, Chapleau,Timmins, Cochrane, Hearst and Wawa. My main objective is toactivate EN88 & 89 which I missed on last year's trip up North. > Getting into EO by vehicle north of Route 11 would be a verydifficult challenge. Even though I have an AWD SUV, I'm not willingto drive 100 miles each way on dirt/gravel roads with no service orfacilities to make a few QSO's - HIHI > Good Luck & Safe Travels, > Bob - K8BL > > > From: Ken Alexander > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 2:10 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition to EO91 (Moosonee, ON) > > I'm happy to announce a grid expedition to Moosonee, ON, which is in EO91. I will be arriving early afternoon on Friday September 23rd and leaving late afternoon Monday September 26th. That gives me four days to put EO91 on the air via satellite. > > Moosonee is a Cree village located on the Moose River, which empties into James Bay, about 15 km downstream. It's someplace I have always wanted to visit and when I'm not on the air I will be wandering through the town, photographing things of interest. > > By land, Moosonee is only accessible by train; The Polar Bear Express that runs from Cochrane, ON. It's also accessible by air at much greater expense. I will be driving to Cochrane and taking a few days to get there, which will enable me to activate other grids along the way, such as FN06, FN07, FN08, EN98 and EN99. > > Why not EO90? There's nothing there! There appear to be two roads into EO90 from the south, but I'm not taking my Volkswagen on them. Cochrane is at the bottom edge of EN99, so it would be a very long day's drive on unknown roads to even set foot in EO90 and return to Cochrane. Plus, as far as I can tell, there are no gas stations, food stops, accommodations or cellphone service along the way. If you break down you are well and truly screwed until someone finds you. Maybe some other time. > > The Polar Bear Express has "flag stops" in EO90, where by prearrangement they will drop you off at the side of the track at one of several predetermined locations. Some of them are at power dams on the Abitibi River, where they are not set up to accommodate unexpected guests. Other flag stops are in the middle of nowhere, and have probably been set up decades ago to pick up and drop off prospectors and trappers. > > The only part of the trip that is carved in stone at the moment are the days in Moosonee (EO91) itself. I'll start working out an on-air schedule based on what SatPC32 can tell me. Times will change slightly as we get closer to the date. Things are more fluid regarding the days before the train trip to Moosonee, but I have allowed about 3 or 4 days to get to Cochrane, which ought to be sufficient to operate a little from most of the grids I mentioned. > > Updates will appear on Twitter. More verbose notifications will appear here. > > Regards, > > Ken > VE3HLS > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Thanks -- Joe K4SAT 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM From AJ9N at aol.com Tue Aug 23 06:33:57 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 02:33:57 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-23 07:00 UTC Message-ID: <61b8e.69cc0afa.44ed4855@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-23 07:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, direct via N9DR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC 42 deg Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR, direct via KF7TCG The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ (***) Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-09-03 18:21:03 UTC 42 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-23 07:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1080. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1045. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-21 06:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From plaws0 at gmail.com Tue Aug 23 15:36:04 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:36:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Foxes (Re: RadFxSat Launch Vehicle Assembly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Updating the list per today's exciting announcement ... Fox-1A - U/v (FM) - active as AO-85 Fox-1B - U/v (FM) - Launches 2017-01-?? Fox-1Cliff - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launches 2016Q4 Fox-1D - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launches 2016Q4 Fox-1E - V/u (linear) - Launches 2016-12-?? Guess I need to get an antenna for L band now that I have an L-band transceiver .... -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From wa4sca at gmail.com Tue Aug 23 16:02:02 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 11:02:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Foxes (Re: RadFxSat Launch Vehicle Assembly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000201d1fd57$b012cfe0$10386fa0$@GMAIL.COM> You listing for Fox-1E is off by a year. Definitely looking forward to mode-L. It worked very well on AO-51. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: Message-ID: <0789b57b-eb3b-7302-70cf-43ed0c8f0ccf@amsat.org> Wait a few more hours, we have a meeting with one of our launch providers and I'll see if I can get permission to provide all y'all an update on a launch date that I know has changed but we haven't been able to tell you has changed. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/23/2016 10:36, Peter Laws wrote: > Updating the list per today's exciting announcement ... > > Fox-1A - U/v (FM) - active as AO-85 > Fox-1B - U/v (FM) - Launches 2017-01-?? > Fox-1Cliff - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launches 2016Q4 > Fox-1D - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launches 2016Q4 > Fox-1E - V/u (linear) - Launches 2016-12-?? > > > Guess I need to get an antenna for L band now that I have an L-band > transceiver .... > > > From plaws0 at gmail.com Tue Aug 23 16:20:31 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 11:20:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Foxes (Re: RadFxSat Launch Vehicle Assembly In-Reply-To: <000201d1fd57$b012cfe0$10386fa0$@GMAIL.COM> References: <000201d1fd57$b012cfe0$10386fa0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Alan wrote: > You listing for Fox-1E is off by a year. D'Oh! Fox-1A - U/v (FM) - active as AO-85 Fox-1B - U/v (FM) - Launches 2017-01-?? Fox-1Cliff - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launches 2016Q4 Fox-1D - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launches 2016Q4 Fox-1E - V/u (linear) - Launches 2017-12-?? Look, 1990 is only 10 years ago, so leave me alone. :-D -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr Tue Aug 23 16:24:13 2016 From: f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr (f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:24:13 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] special call TM38CDXC Message-ID: <077D912F912843938D70F5B231FC0026@Claude1PC> Hi all >From 3 to 25 September 2016, I activate the special call TM38CDXC for 38 th Convention of Clipperton DX Club. QRV AO-07 in mode B, FO-29, SO-50, AO-73, AO-85, and satellites XW The activation will be done on my free time. Activation will take place since my QRA (JN18IT) and the club radio F6KOP (JN18PN) I hope to contact you The QSL will be sent automatically by the bureau. 73, good DX Claude F5GVA Satellite amateur radio station http://f5gva.pagesperso-orange.fr/ From bruninga at usna.edu Tue Aug 23 16:38:38 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:38:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Put your portable AMSAT Field Day Solar panels to work! Message-ID: <98de4cc126b4b994338755e846c4cfdb@mail.gmail.com> If you have spare solar panels, put them on the air! I finally connected the extra solar panels on my junk hauling Van not only for the very rare (1%) use in providing power at Ham Field events, but more importantly for capturing the extra 500W (99% of the time) into my house. http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/boat/VanPanels509xX.jpg Once you have a Solar NET-METER account, then every solar panel you have lying around can contribute to your daily energy needs. This includes panels on my van (shown), or on an RV if you have one. In the photo above, you can see my 6? cube Ham radio Comm shelter (trailer) overgrown with vines, but it is operational and ready to go. The other panel you see is going on its roof. See shelter photo on: http://aprs.org/FD-Prius-Power.html This way, you can justify buying large panels for these other vehicles because now they are contributing 100% 0f the time, not just the 1% of the time you might be using the actual vehicle. Large 250W panels are now under $200 from sunelec.com (sales) Connect them to a 500W or so Chinese grid-tie inverter (under $150 on Ebay). But again, this only works if you have a net meter account OR if you generate less power than the absolute minimum that your house draws at ANY TIME during the day. If your meter goes backwards (without a net meter) it will still count UPWARDS and you will pay the utility for the excess you gave them. The economics of solar comes from net metering and 24/7/365 production. If you have to store your energy in a battery, the battery costs will be 2/3rds of your investment. Just using solar panels to trickle charge backup batteries has no economic value. The solar panels are producing nothing when the batteries are full. And you are wasting your solar investment. But hooked to grid tie, you get full retail value for every watt you produce. Thus, my recommendation (if you haven?t gone solar already) is to contract for the SMALLEST Solar system you can get estimates for. When they are done, you are official, permitted, inspected and certified and have a net meter. From then on, ANY extra solar you feed to your grid-tie gets retail value to you 24/7/365. Solar is here to stay and amortized, costs less than half the utility. See http://aprs.org/solar-now.html Its perfect for Ham Radio support. Bob, WB4APR From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Aug 23 18:25:46 2016 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:25:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NF measurements Message-ID: <20160823182546.GC21098@monolith> Hello all, I'd like to find someone in the DFW area who has access to or know someone who has a HP 8970? I lack the facilities to do NF measurements on a 2m LNA I've built, and I'd like to see how close I got to predicted. (A spectrum analyzer + ENR head + NF personality would also work) Thanks, --- Zach N0ZGO From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 23 19:22:18 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:22:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Update - Planned to be QRV tomorrow (8/24) Message-ID: >From @WW2DX on Twitter: "Sats will be tomorrow, wind is too fierce currently. Antennas built today." 73, Paul, N8HM From n0jy at amsat.org Tue Aug 23 20:06:45 2016 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:06:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Foxes (Re: RadFxSat Launch Vehicle Assembly In-Reply-To: <0789b57b-eb3b-7302-70cf-43ed0c8f0ccf@amsat.org> References: <0789b57b-eb3b-7302-70cf-43ed0c8f0ccf@amsat.org> Message-ID: <12ff6d3e-598c-40b6-f83b-74a7f9b10273@amsat.org> Sorry, can't update yet. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/23/2016 11:15, Jerry Buxton wrote: > Wait a few more hours, we have a meeting with one of our launch > providers and I'll see if I can get permission to provide all y'all an > update on a launch date that I know has changed but we haven't been able > to tell you has changed. > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 8/23/2016 10:36, Peter Laws wrote: >> Updating the list per today's exciting announcement ... >> >> Fox-1A - U/v (FM) - active as AO-85 >> Fox-1B - U/v (FM) - Launches 2017-01-?? >> Fox-1Cliff - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launches 2016Q4 >> Fox-1D - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launches 2016Q4 >> Fox-1E - V/u (linear) - Launches 2016-12-?? >> >> >> Guess I need to get an antenna for L band now that I have an L-band >> transceiver .... >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From dan at post.com Tue Aug 23 22:01:38 2016 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:01:38 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Video recording from this successful event here: https://www.facebook.com/childrensmuseum/videos/10154541185588701/ On 22/08/2016, n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: > An International Space Station school contact has been planned with > participants at The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN on 23 > Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 15:09 UTC. The > duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The > contact will be direct between NA1SS and N9DR. The contact should be audible > over portions of the mid U.S. and adjacent areas. Interested parties are > invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to > be conducted in English. > > > > > > Founded in 1925, the Children's Museum of Indianapolis creates immersive, > interdisciplinary experiences that promote inquiry-based family learning > across the arts, sciences, and humanities. The museum is a 473,000 square > foot, five-level facility that houses 11 permanent exhibit galleries, two > traveling exhibit spaces, a children's theater, a planetarium, a public > library, a preschool, and a collection of more than 115,000 artifacts and > objects. Most recently, the Children's Museum opened Beyond Spaceship Earth, > and immersive exhibit focused on human space travel. Beyond Spaceship > Earth features three components: a recreation of portions of the inside of > the International Space Station (ISS); a one-of-a-kind, immersive space > object experience called the Schaefer Planetarium & Space Object Theater; > and an Astronaut Wall of Fame, which will pay tribute to more than 30 > astronauts with ties to Indiana. > > > > Hosting more than one million visitors each year, the museum has received > numerous accolades, including being named one of the top 3 science centers > in the country by Family Fun magazine. The museum has been ranked as the > number one children's museum by Forbes.com. Through a variety of free and > discounted admission programs for underserved populations, as well as its > community outreach efforts targeting local neighborhood residents and urban > public schools, the Museum ensures that its visitor population is diverse. > > > > > > Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: > > > > 1. How do astronauts get the water they need? > > 2. What experiments are you conducting on the ISS? > > 3. Do you have any free time while on the ISS and if so, what do you do? > > 4. How many personal items do you bring with you to outer space and what > > types of items do you bring? > > 5. Do you have plants on the ISS and if so, how do you grow them. What > > type of food do you eat? > > 6. How does lack of gravity affect the body? > > 7. I know you have astronauts from different countries. How do you > > communicate with each other? > > 8. What do you do with all of your trash while you are in space? > > 9. How long do you train before you are ready for a mission? > > 10. What is it like to sleep in space? > > 11. What is it like to do an EVA? > > 12. What is the most difficult task for you to do in space? > > 13. What happens if you need spare parts to fix something on the space > > station. > > 14. What happens to your body while you are in space? > > 15. What is the biggest lesson you have learned while being in space? > > 16. Without the ability to get fresh air into the space station, what does > > > the ISS smell like? > > 17. What advice would you give to kids who want to be an astronaut? > > 18. What is your least favorite thing to do in space and why? > > 19. What is your favorite part of being an astronaut on the ISS? > > 20. What is your favorite food on the ISS? > > > > > > > > PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: > > > > Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the > > International Space Station (ARISS). > > > > To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status > > > > > > Next planned event(s): > > > > TBD > > > > About ARISS: > > Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative > venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that > support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, > sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American > Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in > Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). > The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, > engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts > via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in > classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced > amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a > variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, > teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, > and amateur radio. For more > information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. > > > > Thank you & 73, > > David - AA4KN > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From AJ9N at aol.com Wed Aug 24 03:03:51 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:03:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-24 02:30 UTC Message-ID: <75079.7ee968b5.44ee6897@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-24 02:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, direct via N9DR The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Contact was successful: Tue 2016-08-23 15:09:15 UTC 42 deg (***) Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR, direct via KF7TCG The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS (***) Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-09-03 18:21:03 UTC 42 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-24 02:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1081. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1046. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-24 02:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Aug 24 10:11:14 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 06:11:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Jogging while Listening to the ISS! (Kopernik reception) Message-ID: https://youtu.be/vpnCQ3-Xai0 I wasn't really able to listen to the ISS while jogging, but this video does include both jogging and the ISS. Please Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1 This was inspired by Casey Neistat's vlogging style. If you haven't watched any of his videos, check em out. This is my reception of Astronaut Jeff Williams talking with summer camp students at the Kopernik Observatory and Science Center in Vestal, New York on Thursday, August 18th, 2016. I received this in Raleigh, North Carolina on top of an old landfill turned into a park. Last week?s video (My First SO-50 Contact! And 18 QSL Cards from 2000!): https://youtu.be/S2lHDKqTYXg Questions: 1. We are building robots here at camp, what sort of robots do you use and how do they help you? 2. Has anything broken on the Space Station and how did you fix it? 3. What interest or activities did you have when you were young that helped you in qualifying for your current position? 4. How long have you been at the space station? 5. How long did it take you to get used to being in microgravity and what are some effects from microgravity you have noticed? 6. Do you have Internet up in the space? 7. What's the weather like in space? 8. How do you sleep without floating all over? 9. What did you have to study in school to become an astronaut? 10. Do you have children? If so how do you communicate with them when you are away? 11. Are you working on any research or science projects on the Space Station? 12. I heard training to be an astronaut can be very difficult. What was the toughest aspect of training in your opinion? 13. Have you ever seen a UFO? 14. What do you eat when you are in space? How do you pack food to take into space? Does it all need to be freeze dried like astronaut ice cream? 15. What do you and the other astronauts do for fun during your downtime? 16. At what age did you first become interested in space? 17. What languages do you speak? 18. What is your day like in space? 19. (Something about the upcoming space walk) 73, John Brier KG4AKV From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl Wed Aug 24 12:04:35 2016 From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 14:04:35 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Put your portable AMSAT Field Day Solar panels to work! In-Reply-To: <98de4cc126b4b994338755e846c4cfdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <98de4cc126b4b994338755e846c4cfdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160824120435.GA661@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Somewhat unrelated to amsat-bb, but I will add my two cents. Quoting Robert Bruninga who wrote on Tue 2016-08-23 at 12:38: > Connect them to a 500W or so Chinese grid-tie inverter (under $150 on Ebay). >From what I hear from other amateurs in the Netherlands it's a real problem to find inverters that don't mess up the HF bands. Electronic inverters cause noise signals which the long wires to the panels will put on the air. > But again, this only works if you have a net meter account In the Netherlands the 'old' electric meters are Ferraris meters which just run backwards when more power is returned. New meters are 'smart' (electronic) meters which count delivered and returned power separately. The good thing (compared to the US) is that Dutch smart meters only use licensed GPRS or CDMA frequencies to communicate with the electricity company, not powerline communications or amateur frequencies. At the moment in the Netherlands the power returned can be crossed away against power used from the grid and the excess returned will get payment at feed-in tariff. In my own situation we do not have a lot of roof space for solar panels, but a solar panel is high on the wishlist for tent camping trips since this makes our choice of campings easier while still charging phones / radio battery. Koos -- Koos van den Hout PGP keyid 0xF0D7C263 via keyservers Weather maps from free sources at http://idefix.net/ http://weather.idefix.net/ From k9jkm at comcast.net Wed Aug 24 12:53:33 2016 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 07:53:33 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Arianespace Launch Webcast Wednesday August 24 Message-ID: <002c01d1fe06$85df2e30$919d8a90$@net> Big rocket launches send a thrill up my leg and one is scheduled for today, August 24, when Arianespace flight VA232 will orbit the Intelsat 33e and Intelsat 36 satellites. A webcast will be available 15 minutes prior to launch: http://www.arianespace.com/ (then click "Live this Launch") Arianespace says liftoff is planned on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 as early as possible within the following launch window: . Between 06:55 p.m. and 07:40 p.m., Kourou time . Between 05:55 p.m. and 06:40 p.m., Washington D.C. time . Between 09:55 p.m. and 10:40 p.m., Universal Time (UTC) . Between 11:55 p.m. and 12:40 a.m., Paris time. Tune in and watch the giant rumble in the Amazon jungle! -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From daniel at destevez.net Wed Aug 24 13:59:38 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:59:38 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3CAT2 telemetry decoded Message-ID: Hi all, Using a recording of Scott K4KDR, I've been able to decode telemetry of the 3CAT2 satellite, which transmits 9k6 AX.25 BPSK telemetry in 145.970MHz. To my knowledge, this is the first time that an Amateur decodes signals from this satellite. More info: http://destevez.net/2016/08/decoding-packets-from-3cat2/ 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr Wed Aug 24 16:52:42 2016 From: f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr (f5gva-1 at wanadoo.fr) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 18:52:42 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Correction time activation TM38CDXC Message-ID: <6CAF88BFBDCC4030979FD010180E46BC@Claude1PC> Hi all >From 1 to 15 September 2016, I activate the special call TM38CDXC for 38 th Convention of Clipperton DX Club. Sorry for this mistake (not 3 to 25 september) QRV AO-07 in mode B, FO-29, SO-50, AO-73, AO-85, and satellites XW The activation will be done on my free time. Activation will take place since my QRA (JN18IT) and the club radio F6KOP (JN18PN) I hope to contact you The QSL will be sent automatically by the bureau. 73, good DX Claude F5GVA Satellite amateur radio station http://f5gva.pagesperso-orange.fr/ From bruninga at usna.edu Wed Aug 24 22:11:53 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 18:11:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gravity Gradient? Message-ID: <0f480cdf1a7a47556a86fc04cd91fba9@mail.gmail.com> My understanding of Gravity Gradient is that a small spacecraft with a long boom and tip mass will align in an UP/Down attitude. But it is bi-stable so either end can be up and be stable. What about a small satellite with TWO booms (dipole wires) in opposite directions with small tip masses, it will be just as stable as before but I may even get by with half the mass on each end. More or less. When I mean ?stable? I mean roughly up down, anything within +/- 40 degrees is still a vertical HF antenna?. Besides faraday rotation will rotate the received pattern every whichaway anyway. I disagree with an opinion I have received that says ?gravity gradient? wont work with dual opposite end tip masses. Says one has to be bigger and it cannot be in the middle. I disagree. Any professionals have an opinion? Bob, Wb4aPR From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Aug 24 23:07:37 2016 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 19:07:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS vs NO-84 digi Message-ID: I just had the ISS and NO84 both in my footprint for 4 minutes ~2228-2232 UTC. I was driving and only had my VX-8 with a rubber duck. I CB usually hear the ISS and occasionally capture its packets. With NO-84 I can sometimes hear the packets but not capture them with the HT. What I am wondering is with a better setup and time to work them: A. could I Digipeat both of them at the same time? B. Would they Digipeat each other? C. Could I digi through them both D. How Would be able to tell ? 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone From bruninga at usna.edu Wed Aug 24 23:46:20 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 19:46:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS vs NO-84 digi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7e93c97de96fdfe7e2892ff4dbe08ed1@mail.gmail.com> > I just had the ISS and NO84 both in my footprint for 4 minutes ~2228-2232 UTC. > A. could I Digipeat both of them at the same time? > B. Would they Digipeat each other? > C. Could I digi through them both > D. How Would be able to tell ? A. yes B. I think all NO84 sourced beacons attempt to go via ISS always C. Yes if you use the path AIRSS,ARISS (*) D. Look at the path of the digipeated packets. All D72 and D710 radios now have a display page for the path (*) Don't bother going from PSAT to ISS since PSAT is only 300 mW. Instead, use the specific path VIA RS0ISS,ARISS and it will hit ISS first and with its 5W then there is a chance that NO-84 will hear it and digipeat it. I have not done it in years, so I assume that ISS repsondes to both ARISS or RS0ISS. And PSAT responds to PSAT and ARISS... To see the dowlnik see: http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi But it is confusing. This packet was only digipeted by PSAT having used The alias of ARISS on the uplink. PSAT then marked the ARISS as used up and inserted Its callsign in the path to show that it did it. K0KOC-7]APWW10,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,VE2GQF-2: If it had been a dual hop using the path of ARISS,ARISS, it would be: K0KOC-7]APWW10,PSAT,ARISS,RS0ISS*,qAR,VE2GQF-2: Since the ISS would use the second ARISS and then substitute its call in place of the ARISS that it used. Or if the user had used the used the path of ARISS,ARISS and it went to ISS first and PSAT second, it would come down as : K0KOC-7]APWW10,RS0ISS,PSAT,ARISS*,qAR,VE2GQF-2: Unless I have had too much ocoffee and am not thinking clearly... Bob, WB4aPR From skristof at etczone.com Thu Aug 25 00:03:16 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:03:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Gravity Gradient? In-Reply-To: <0f480cdf1a7a47556a86fc04cd91fba9@mail.gmail.com> References: <0f480cdf1a7a47556a86fc04cd91fba9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: http://www.jhuapl.edu/techdigest/views/pdfs/V03_N5_1964/V3_N5_1964_Fischell.pdf A quote:"The mass on the end of the dumbbell closest to the center of the earth is attracted to it by a force that we denote F. The force on the other mass we will denote f. Even if these masses are equal it is easy to see that force F will be larger than f. " The article goes on to say that the torque produced will keep the closer end pointed towards Earth. This paper actually starts with the assumption that the two end masses are the same, then goes on to say that it will still work even if the masses are different. So, I'm siding with Bob. Full disclosure: I'm not a professional, but I do teach physics. Steve AI9IN On 2016-08-24 18:11, Robert Bruninga wrote: > My understanding of Gravity Gradient is that a small spacecraft with a long > boom and tip mass will align in an UP/Down attitude. But it is bi-stable > so either end can be up and be stable. > > What about a small satellite with TWO booms (dipole wires) in opposite > directions with small tip masses, it will be just as stable as before but I > may even get by with half the mass on each end. More or less. When I mean > "stable" I mean roughly up down, anything within +/- 40 degrees is still a > vertical HF antenna.... Besides faraday rotation will rotate the received > pattern every whichaway anyway. > > I disagree with an opinion I have received that says "gravity gradient" > wont work with dual opposite end tip masses. Says one has to be bigger and > it cannot be in the middle. I disagree. > > Any professionals have an opinion? > > Bob, Wb4aPR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From seb at wintek.com Thu Aug 25 01:53:23 2016 From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen E. Belter) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 01:53:23 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Canadian maritime expedition & LoTW Message-ID: We?re only a few days from home; had a wonderful time exploring New England and the Canadian Maritime provinces. During our trip, I took the opportunity to practice operating portable. My thanks to K8YSE, N8HM, and W5PFG for their advice and encouragement. The current count is 20 grids activated, some rare and some not so: GO10, GO11, GO21, GN07, GN08, GN09, GN18, GN19, GN38, FN02, FN03, FN23, FN34, FN41, FN43, FN46, FN67, FN75, FN76, and FN96. 215 total QSOs. Thank you to everyone for their patience and for allowing me to monopolize many satellite passes. If I didn?t hear you, my apologies. I don?t hear well (i.e., hearing aids) and I don?t hear well (i.e., pointing the antenna and tuning the radio). I still need lots of practice and I need to work on my equipment. All of my contacts have been uploaded to LoTW. If we made contact and you aren?t getting a confirmation via LoTW, please contact me so that we can discover my mistakes. Hopefully we can do this again on my next trip. Best way to hear about any operating plans are to follow me on Twitter @sbelter. 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 04:46:47 2016 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 23:46:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C now active on satellites Message-ID: It was nice to hear a good crowd on FO-29 tonight (25-Aug) working CY9C on FO-29 around 0430 UTC. A few were able to work them on the previous orbit. Lots of good signals and some seldom-heard calls on the ole bird. 73 Clayton W5PFG From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 25 04:54:18 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:54:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C now active on satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hear the action here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2qocednainp849/CY9C%20on%20FO-29%200424Z%2025-Aug-2016.MP3?dl=0 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:46 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: > It was nice to hear a good crowd on FO-29 tonight (25-Aug) working > CY9C on FO-29 around 0430 UTC. A few were able to work them on the > previous orbit. > > Lots of good signals and some seldom-heard calls on the ole bird. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Thu Aug 25 04:54:39 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:54:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C now active on satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E75B7A0-83FD-49D6-96A0-3C91E634B062@mindspring.com> I encourage everyone to try to work them. The more calls in the log, the more likely they are to include satellite again next time. 73, Drew KO4MA > On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:46 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: > > It was nice to hear a good crowd on FO-29 tonight (25-Aug) working > CY9C on FO-29 around 0430 UTC. A few were able to work them on the > previous orbit. > > Lots of good signals and some seldom-heard calls on the ole bird. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 05:42:11 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:42:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C now active on satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000401d1fe93$6d772ef0$48658cd0$@GMAIL.COM> Clayton, Have they annouced time and date windows they plan to be on? 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Just saw this on Twitter from WW2DX. Go get them! Even if you don't normally chase grids or DX, please do get on and work them! As Drew said on a previous post, we want to get them a lot of QSOs so they'll see it as worth the effort on future trips. @WW2DX 5m5 minutes ago Victoria, Subd. A, Nova Scotia Hey @AMSAT @AmsatUK #cy9c will attempt every pass today!! Looking forward to the pileup :) #hamradio #dx #amsat 73, Paul, N8HM From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 25 14:56:05 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C References: <613119050.1862769.1472136965105.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <613119050.1862769.1472136965105@mail.yahoo.com> St. Paul is very easy to work on satellite. Good op, station hears well. Just take your time, no need to step all over one another. He was lonely toward the end of the most recent FO-29 pass. Wish I'd waited until the crowd had thinned out. -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain From dan at post.com Thu Aug 25 15:33:16 2016 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:33:16 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Expanding SatNOGS for satellite command and control Message-ID: From: https://satnogs.org/2016/08/cnc-librecubesat/ Although quite some time has passed since our last update the SatNOGS team and the community was busy working on it?s software and hardware components allowing modular setups. A large amount of focus has being the SatNOGS client software. Allowing the user to not only use RTL-SDR based dongles but a far greater variety of SDR solutions using GnuRadio. In conjunction with that SatNOGS client is able to use Amateur Radios that are supported by hamlib (we?ve already tested on Yaesu and Kenwood radios). Such functionality paired with our new ground station hardware design, and further tests on after market designs such us Yaesu Az/El rotator would allow the SatNOGS network to not only receive but transmit data via the network to satellites. Since a few months now Libre Space Foundation, the organization that assists the development, and operation of the SatNOGS networks is has being working together with the University of Patras on developing and manufacturing the first satellite with most of it?s components based open hardware and using free software, UPSat. An open hardware and software satellite especially one build by Libre Space Foundation would be a great chance for the SatNOGS network to implement command and control features on it?s SatNOGS client, allowing a fully open Low Earth Orbiting satellite communication stack from earth to orbit and back. Communications with the satellite are implemented through ECSS Standard Commands as described in ECSS-E-70-41A standard (CCSDS). You can checkout the code of the client on GitHub and the ecss services implemented on the satellite here. There has been a lot of effort to make sure that we implement all needed functionality on the SatNOGS client, while in parallel maintaining modularity and extensibility for future satellites and other protocols. Do you have a satellite in the works and want to use SatNOGS client as command and control? Let us know and we will be happy to work with you expanding our client! https://satnogs.org/2016/08/cnc-librecubesat/ From ewpereira at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 16:11:55 2016 From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:11:55 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Expanding SatNOGS for satellite command and control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Daniel, It is very good to see the development of more sophisticated ground stations to operate cubesats and other amateur satellites. Besides the development of more advanced communication systems and protocols, this is an area where I think there is a lot of opportunities for development. During the last Cubesat Workshop that took place in Florian?polis, Brazil, there were some discussions about some areas in the design of a remote controlled ground station that needs attention. More specifically, the notion of a control operator in the amateur radio service (assuming the station will operate in the amateur radio service). It is not always clear who is the control operator when a station (transmitter) is being operated remotely, specially if the operation is automated. Things get worse when a station (transmitter) is being remotely operated from a different country. This issue can potentially raise eye brows from a regulatory perspective and I believe it would be very important for each project that will implement remote operations to clear the details with the national telecom administrations involved in order to comply with the amateur radio regulations and avoid stepping into legal issues. 73, Edson PY2SDR --- - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together. - N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se trabalharmos juntos. On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Cussen wrote: > From: > https://satnogs.org/2016/08/cnc-librecubesat/ > > Although quite some time has passed since our last update the SatNOGS > team and the community was busy working on it?s software and hardware > components allowing modular setups. > > A large amount of focus has being the SatNOGS client software. > Allowing the user to not only use RTL-SDR based dongles but a far > greater variety of SDR solutions using GnuRadio. In conjunction with > that SatNOGS client is able to use Amateur Radios that are supported > by hamlib (we?ve already tested on Yaesu and Kenwood radios). Such > functionality paired with our new ground station hardware design, and > further tests on after market designs such us Yaesu Az/El rotator > would allow the SatNOGS network to not only receive but transmit data > via the network to satellites. > > Since a few months now Libre Space Foundation, the organization that > assists the development, and operation of the SatNOGS networks is has > being working together with the University of Patras on developing and > manufacturing the first satellite with most of it?s components based > open hardware and using free software, UPSat. > > An open hardware and software satellite especially one build by Libre > Space Foundation would be a great chance for the SatNOGS network to > implement command and control features on it?s SatNOGS client, > allowing a fully open Low Earth Orbiting satellite communication stack > from earth to orbit and back. > > Communications with the satellite are implemented through ECSS > Standard Commands as described in ECSS-E-70-41A standard (CCSDS). You > can checkout the code of the client on GitHub and the ecss services > implemented on the satellite here. There has been a lot of effort to > make sure that we implement all needed functionality on the SatNOGS > client, while in parallel maintaining modularity and extensibility for > future satellites and other protocols. > > Do you have a satellite in the works and want to use SatNOGS client as > command and control? Let us know and we will be happy to work with you > expanding our client! > > https://satnogs.org/2016/08/cnc-librecubesat/ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 16:13:38 2016 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:13:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug) Message-ID: Look for CY9C on the upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC today (25-Aug) 73 Clayton W5PFG From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 25 16:21:17 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:21:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C on FM Satellites Message-ID: CY9C plans to work several FM passes over the next couple of days. As FM is a limited resource, please do not call if you are already in the log on another satellite. Please also refrain from making other QSOs while CY9C remains in the footprint. They are only there for a few more days. It's been 18 years since CY9 has been on satellite, other QSOs can wait a few days. Even if it sounds like they have worked everyone on a pass, another station may be about to enter the footprint with a very short window to work them. 73, Paul, N8HM From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 25 16:33:37 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:33:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes Message-ID: One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of coverage. DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain from working them more than once! 73, Paul, N8HM From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 25 16:36:45 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:36:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At some point, naming names is required: K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29. Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four > times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the > opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of > coverage. > > DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain > from working them more than once! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM From w5pfg at amsat.org Thu Aug 25 16:44:45 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:44:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A lot of stations were heard making good contacts. I uploaded my recording to SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/w5pfg/cy9c-dxpedition-st-paul-island They're going to focus on some cross-continent passes and into Europe. Good luck. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 8/25/2016 11:33, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four > times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the > opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of > coverage. > > DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain > from working them more than once! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From firefighterryan37 at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 16:44:47 2016 From: firefighterryan37 at gmail.com (ryan woods) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:44:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You know I don't work every pass every day but it didn't take me long to figure out who you was talking about! Ryan KD8ATF On Aug 25, 2016 12:36 PM, "Paul Stoetzer" wrote: > At some point, naming names is required: > > K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29. > > Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four > > times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the > > opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of > > coverage. > > > > DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain > > from working them more than once! > > > > 73, > > > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Aug 25 16:47:55 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:47:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's common behavior from the self-proclaimed "grid commander." His little group has a couple of followers, but I would hope that those that do take a look at this type of behavior. Situations like this show a person's character. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:44 PM, ryan woods wrote: > You know I don't work every pass every day but it didn't take me long to > figure out who you was talking about! > > Ryan > KD8ATF > > > On Aug 25, 2016 12:36 PM, "Paul Stoetzer" wrote: >> >> At some point, naming names is required: >> >> K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29. >> >> Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> > One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four >> > times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the >> > opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of >> > coverage. >> > >> > DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain >> > from working them more than once! >> > >> > 73, >> > >> > Paul, N8HM >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k4rgk at arrl.net Thu Aug 25 16:47:34 2016 From: k4rgk at arrl.net (Daryl Young) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:47:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21dc5cf7-a7ce-c235-fce6-5bc9136df32b@arrl.net> I made my first contact with CY9C just now on FO-29. He had a pileup at his AOS and was available (lonely) at my LOS. Great operator. Thanks for the heads up! *Daryl K4RGK * On 8/25/2016 12:13 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote: > Look for CY9C on the upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC today (25-Aug) > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From nss at mwt.net Thu Aug 25 16:54:33 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:54:33 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the expedition should keep track of dupes, in situations like this, and if discoverd all qso's from the offending station should be deleted from the logs. Just my opinion. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/25/2016 11:36 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > At some point, naming names is required: > > K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29. > > Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four >> times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the >> opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of >> coverage. >> >> DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain >> from working them more than once! >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From tucker at mcguireland.com Thu Aug 25 16:57:52 2016 From: tucker at mcguireland.com (Tucker McGuire) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:57:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree with Joe. "Blacklisting" operators who find it necessary to dupe DX over and over is becoming more common practice for DXpeditions now. Good idea in my book. 73, Tucker W4FS On Aug 25, 2016 12:55 PM, "Joe" wrote: > the expedition should keep track of dupes, in situations like this, and if > discoverd all qso's from the offending station should be deleted from the > logs. > > Just my opinion. > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/25/2016 11:36 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> At some point, naming names is required: >> >> K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29. >> >> Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> >>> One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four >>> times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the >>> opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of >>> coverage. >>> >>> DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain >>> from working them more than once! >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Paul, N8HM >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wa4sca at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 17:11:11 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:11:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug) In-Reply-To: <21dc5cf7-a7ce-c235-fce6-5bc9136df32b@arrl.net> References: <21dc5cf7-a7ce-c235-fce6-5bc9136df32b@arrl.net> Message-ID: <000101d1fef3$ae622270$0b266750$@GMAIL.COM> Daryl, Absolutely first class operation. They also did a great job of patching together equipment to get an excellent station on the air. Even used Full Doppler Tracking! 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Look for CY9C on the upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC today (25-Aug) <> <> 73 <> Clayton <> W5PFG <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> <> < <_______________________________________________ References: Message-ID: <7ebca028-f7ad-2c08-6244-d8bfe9a4b318@amsat.org> It's a touchy subject. Sometimes there are legit reasons such as when the DX didn't log the call correctly. For example, N4UFO had tried in the middle of the night but they reported his call as as U4, not N4. Ultimately it is the DX that sets the rules for their op. The main reason, in my opinion, to avoid "insurance calls" (dupes) is so that you don't jeopardize someone's chance to make contact with a narrow window. I cannot tell you how many times I have tried to work UT1FG/MM in the middle of the night with a 2 minute window, only to have other stations jabbering with him because they assume nobody else is in the footprint. It is hard to put ourselves in others' shoes. A little grace doesn't hurt. Some time we might need it ourselves. I know that I do! 73 Clayton W5PFG On 8/25/2016 11:54, Joe wrote: > the expedition should keep track of dupes, in situations like this, and > if discoverd all qso's from the offending station should be deleted from > the logs. > > Just my opinion. > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com From WB4SON at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 17:30:31 2016 From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:30:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C now active on satellites In-Reply-To: <000401d1fe93$6d772ef0$48658cd0$@GMAIL.COM> References: <000401d1fe93$6d772ef0$48658cd0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: Any idea what birds they are working? No more FO-29 passes until the wee hours of the morning here in New England (same for SO-50). I'll certainly try late tonight/early tomorrow (Friday UTC). 73, Bob, WB4SON On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Alan wrote: > Clayton, > > Have they annouced time and date windows they plan to be on? > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > Coleman > > < > < > < > <73 > <_______________________________________________ > Opinions expressed > AMSAT-NA. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 17:49:00 2016 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:49:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite passes next 24 hours Message-ID: CY9C satellite passes for next 24 hours. They make work others as available. Asterisks * indicates a prioritized pass for best geographical coverage. All dates/times are UTC 25.08.2016 AO-85 16:51-17:02 25.08.2016 AO-07 17:15-17:34 25.08.2016 AO-85 18:32-18:42 25.08.2016 AO-07 19:06-19:27 25.08.2016 XW-2C 20:28-20:37 * 25.08.2016 AO-07 21:04-21:19 * 25.08.2016 XW-2C 22:02-22:11 25.08.2016 XW-2F 22:16-22:25 25.08.2016 XW-2A 23:38-23:44 * 26.08.2016 FO-29 01:46-01:52 * 26.08.2016 SO-50 03:10-03:21 26.08.2016 FO-29 03:28-03:45 * 26.08.2016 SO-50 04:50-05:02 * 26.08.2016 FO-29 05:13-05:30 26.08.2016 SO-50 06:33-06:42 * 26.08.2016 FO-29 06:59-07:11 * 73 Clayton W5PFG From andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 25 19:34:27 2016 From: andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk (andy thomas) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ESA European Citizens' Debate References: <1502141062.1776499.1472153667199.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1502141062.1776499.1472153667199.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> ESA has asked me to relay this information: I registered for the Citizens? debate on Space for Europe. It is organised in ? (your city) and in 21 other European countries on September 10. Join me. Participate to the debate and you will contribute to the future of space for Europe, together with 99 other citizens in your country. You will be sitting at a table with 5 to 7 other citizens ?Attendance at the citizen consultation is free and lunch is included. Enrolment however is necessary and you are invited to register online on the website www.citizensdebate.space ?The list of the countries and cities where a debate is organised (link to the video teaser in the proper language on each country): Austria ? Vienna www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fI12l0RVVg Belgium ? Brussels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtxJzIQMmNk Czech Republic ? Praha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd-hdr0wglQ Denmark ? Odense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m02rIXYroFM Estonia - Tallinn & Tartu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4g6Py8KCfo Finland ? Helsinki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX6FAIA6y9Q France ? Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7DkUUCS0IA Germany ? Darmstadt www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fI12l0RVVg Greece ? Athens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6lCJIebDro Hungary ? Budapest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdfdr-NYAc4 Ireland ? Cork https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1twDM8Vpl20 Italy ? Roma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl9vcX2ESYg Luxemburg ? Luxembourg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvd35SN_XBc The Netherlands ? Noordwijk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ibNtfS91i0 Norway ? Oslo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2NHZgu03Zw Poland - Rzeszow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sZFTUctEIQ Portugal? - Lisbon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gycuM84YHBo Romania ? Bucharest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNidEv9JfcE Spain ? Madrid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6tY1lCUsQ Sweden ? G?teborg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOx7Kawq4Yc Switzerland ? Lucerne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euCEZDxoEYs The United Kingdom ? Edinburgh 10 September 2016: Citizens' Debate on Space for Europe in 22 ESA Member States 73 de andy G0SFJ | ? | | ? | | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | | 10 September 2016: Citizens' Debate on Space for Europe ... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | ? | From kk5do at arrl.net Thu Aug 25 19:47:10 2016 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:47:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Area Coordinators Message-ID: Are you an AMSAT Area Coordinator? Are you looking for an AMSAT Area Coordinator? Would you like to become an AMSAT Area Coordinator? If you answered yes any of these questions, then we are ready to help you. I have just placed (with the list maintained by Patrick, WD9EWK) the current list of AMSAT Area Coordinators on the amsat.org webpage. You can peruse it at your leisure and if you find someone close to you that you would like to get some help from, you can drop that Area Coordinator an email at his callsign @ amsat.org If you see a need for a correction or addition, please drop an email to Patrick, WD9EWK, at his amsat.org email address. Oh, where can you actually find the list? http://www.amsat.org then click on AMSAT in the menu bar and you will see Area Coordinators. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From WB4SON at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 21:19:20 2016 From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 17:19:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite passes next 24 hours In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for that table Clayton. I was able to work CY9C at 21:08 on AO7. They had a great signal and fine operator on the mic. 73, Bob, WB4SON On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote: > CY9C satellite passes for next 24 hours. They make work others as > available. > Asterisks * indicates a prioritized pass for best geographical coverage. > > All dates/times are UTC > > 25.08.2016 AO-85 16:51-17:02 > 25.08.2016 AO-07 17:15-17:34 > 25.08.2016 AO-85 18:32-18:42 > 25.08.2016 AO-07 19:06-19:27 > 25.08.2016 XW-2C 20:28-20:37 * > 25.08.2016 AO-07 21:04-21:19 * > 25.08.2016 XW-2C 22:02-22:11 > 25.08.2016 XW-2F 22:16-22:25 > 25.08.2016 XW-2A 23:38-23:44 * > 26.08.2016 FO-29 01:46-01:52 * > 26.08.2016 SO-50 03:10-03:21 > 26.08.2016 FO-29 03:28-03:45 * > 26.08.2016 SO-50 04:50-05:02 * > 26.08.2016 FO-29 05:13-05:30 > 26.08.2016 SO-50 06:33-06:42 * > 26.08.2016 FO-29 06:59-07:11 * > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jerry.tuyls at telenet.be Thu Aug 25 21:54:46 2016 From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be (jerry.tuyls at telenet.be) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 23:54:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <764084381.230559739.1472162086905.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Hoi Paul, Last weekend i heard the same "selfishness" on this site off the ocean. I special event station was activating a lighthouse with a special /p call, but he couldn't come thru on SO-50/AO-85. Some stupid stations didn't even listen, just calling and calling cq, while others are trying to finish a contact. And they just need to make a contact on EVERY pass with the same stations, * times/day, rather then having a new square/station/dxcc/special event in the log. Why? To have 1000 contacts in the logbook, but only with 5 or so different stations? I don't understand what's the fun for them,on doing something like that. So don't worry, it happens also on EU passes,hi. Best 73's Jerry,ON4CJQ ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Paul Stoetzer" Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org Verzonden: Donderdag 25 augustus 2016 18:36:45 Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes At some point, naming names is required: K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29. Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four > times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the > opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of > coverage. > > DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain > from working them more than once! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ec4tr.luis at gmail.com Fri Aug 26 00:03:17 2016 From: ec4tr.luis at gmail.com (EC4TR Luis) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:03:17 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes In-Reply-To: <764084381.230559739.1472162086905.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> References: <764084381.230559739.1472162086905.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Message-ID: I know that there's any consolation, but here in Europe is exactly the same. 73 Luis EC4TR 2016-08-25 23:54 GMT+02:00 : > Hoi Paul, > > Last weekend i heard the same "selfishness" on this site off the ocean. I > special event station was activating a lighthouse with a special /p call, > but he couldn't come thru on SO-50/AO-85. Some stupid stations didn't even > listen, just calling and calling cq, while others are trying to finish a > contact. And they just need to make a contact on EVERY pass with the same > stations, * times/day, rather then having a new square/station/dxcc/special > event in the log. Why? To have 1000 contacts in the logbook, but only with > 5 or so different stations? I don't understand what's the fun for them,on > doing something like that. > > So don't worry, it happens also on EU passes,hi. > > Best 73's > > Jerry,ON4CJQ > > > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: "Paul Stoetzer" > Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Verzonden: Donderdag 25 augustus 2016 18:36:45 > Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes > > At some point, naming names is required: > > K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29. > > Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four > > times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the > > opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of > > coverage. > > > > DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain > > from working them more than once! > > > > 73, > > > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Fri Aug 26 14:10:05 2016 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 09:10:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 Message-ID: Some of you may have noticed on @WW2DX's Twitter feed that bad weather forced them offline in the middle of the night between 0200-0700 UTC today. It has been raining heavily with strong wind gusts. When weather clears, they expect to get back online and operate. I would recommend if you aren't in the log yet, listen on all available passes with mutual footprint. Their six digit gridsquare is FN97wf. 73 Clayton W5PFG From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 26 14:23:42 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> Clayton, Do you know if satellite QSOs are reflected in the 2m ClubLog results? If so, it's easy to see if your station is in the log and know that those "insurance" contacts are unnecessary. (As of yesterday, my satellite QSO was not shown in ClubLog. But I know it takes awhile, especially if weather has everything shut down.) -- Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 ----------------------------------------------- "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." ---Mark Twain ----- Original Message ----- From: Clayton Coleman To: AMSAT-BB Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:10 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 Some of you may have noticed on @WW2DX's Twitter feed that bad weather forced them offline in the middle of the night between 0200-0700 UTC today. It has been raining heavily with strong wind gusts. When weather clears, they expect to get back online and operate. I would recommend if you aren't in the log yet, listen on all available passes with mutual footprint. Their six digit gridsquare is FN97wf. 73 Clayton W5PFG _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Aug 26 14:33:15 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:33:15 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 In-Reply-To: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> References: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark! I was searching for call signs of satellite operators who have worked CY9C, going back to the first two stations that worked them (2E0SQL, KB1PVH) as reported via Twitter. I don't see those calls in the log. For some satellite operators, I only saw HF QSOs listed in the log (i.e., N8HM shows up for 30m CW). I did not expect anything for my call, since as of now (1430 UTC) the log was only updated through 1447 UTC yesterday, and I worked them on AO-7 at 2106 UTC yesterday. I'm not worrying about the log search. Seems like satellite QSOs don't show up in these log searches, at least not right away, since the log records need to have the additional fields inserted to indicate a satellite QSO. As Clayton said, if you still need a CY9C in your satellite log, it's time to start looking at any passes that cover both you and them. Don't just rely on seeing AMSAT-BB posts or Twitter to plan your passes. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Clayton, > > Do you know if satellite QSOs are reflected in the 2m ClubLog results? If > so, it's easy to see if your station is in the log and know that those > "insurance" contacts are unnecessary. (As of yesterday, my satellite QSO > was not shown in ClubLog. But I know it takes awhile, especially if weather > has everything shut down.) > > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > ----------------------------------------------- > "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, > you would stay out and your dog would go in." > ---Mark Twain > > > From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 26 15:19:50 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 11:19:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 In-Reply-To: References: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: WW2DX just tweeted that he will be on the 1530Z pass of FO-29 from CY9C. 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > Hi Mark! > > I was searching for call signs of satellite operators who have > worked CY9C, going back to the first two stations that worked > them (2E0SQL, KB1PVH) as reported via Twitter. I don't see those > calls in the log. For some satellite operators, I only saw HF QSOs > listed in the log (i.e., N8HM shows up for 30m CW). I did not expect > anything for my call, since as of now (1430 UTC) the log was only > updated through 1447 UTC yesterday, and I worked them on AO-7 > at 2106 UTC yesterday. > > I'm not worrying about the log search. Seems like satellite QSOs > don't show up in these log searches, at least not right away, since > the log records need to have the additional fields inserted to > indicate a satellite QSO. As Clayton said, if you still need a > CY9C in your satellite log, it's time to start looking at any passes > that cover both you and them. Don't just rely on seeing AMSAT-BB > posts or Twitter to plan your passes. > > 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> Clayton, >> >> Do you know if satellite QSOs are reflected in the 2m ClubLog results? If >> so, it's easy to see if your station is in the log and know that those >> "insurance" contacts are unnecessary. (As of yesterday, my satellite QSO >> was not shown in ClubLog. But I know it takes awhile, especially if weather >> has everything shut down.) >> >> -- >> Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ >> Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 >> ----------------------------------------------- >> "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, >> you would stay out and your dog would go in." >> ---Mark Twain >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2m at comcast.net Fri Aug 26 15:17:39 2016 From: kb2m at comcast.net (Jeff) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 11:17:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 In-Reply-To: References: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <635077970F51427287155B28FA569741@kb2m4PC> The Sat contacts might need to be re-entered depending on the logging software used. My NJ radio club SJDXA was the QSL manager for among others K1N. The log entries for Navassa weren't properly put in the log till after the DXPedition was over. I offered to enter them , but N2OO took care of it, all 27 of them. So it might be awhile before they show up in club log.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 Hi Mark! I was searching for call signs of satellite operators who have worked CY9C, going back to the first two stations that worked them (2E0SQL, KB1PVH) as reported via Twitter. I don't see those calls in the log. For some satellite operators, I only saw HF QSOs listed in the log (i.e., N8HM shows up for 30m CW). I did not expect anything for my call, since as of now (1430 UTC) the log was only updated through 1447 UTC yesterday, and I worked them on AO-7 at 2106 UTC yesterday. I'm not worrying about the log search. Seems like satellite QSOs don't show up in these log searches, at least not right away, since the log records need to have the additional fields inserted to indicate a satellite QSO. As Clayton said, if you still need a CY9C in your satellite log, it's time to start looking at any passes that cover both you and them. Don't just rely on seeing AMSAT-BB posts or Twitter to plan your passes. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Clayton, > > Do you know if satellite QSOs are reflected in the 2m ClubLog results? If > so, it's easy to see if your station is in the log and know that those > "insurance" contacts are unnecessary. (As of yesterday, my satellite QSO > was not shown in ClubLog. But I know it takes awhile, especially if > weather > has everything shut down.) > > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 From w5pfg at amsat.org Fri Aug 26 15:23:53 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 10:23:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 In-Reply-To: References: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6354e193-7b2b-00b6-6517-ec46f72cf064@amsat.org> I have spoken to WW2DX who is aware of the need for west coast USA coverage. He will attempt to work the 1715 UTC pass. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 8/26/2016 10:19, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > WW2DX just tweeted that he will be on the 1530Z pass of FO-29 from CY9C. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM From kb2m at comcast.net Fri Aug 26 16:08:07 2016 From: kb2m at comcast.net (Jeff) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:08:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 In-Reply-To: <635077970F51427287155B28FA569741@kb2m4PC> References: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> <635077970F51427287155B28FA569741@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: <341CBF3BFA5D42ACB4FF05794D52A476@kb2m4PC> Hmmm, I just checked clublog for K1N and the 2m entries never made it to clublog. 2M doesn't even show up as a possible contact. They all made it to LoTW though, and I also got a card. So I'm not sure on what's happening here with the log, I would still bet the logging software might not be sat contact friendly. I know I'm good on FO-29 as I'm on one of Clayton's recordings... :-) 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:17 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 The Sat contacts might need to be re-entered depending on the logging software used. My NJ radio club SJDXA was the QSL manager for among others K1N. The log entries for Navassa weren't properly put in the log till after the DXPedition was over. I offered to enter them , but N2OO took care of it, all 27 of them. So it might be awhile before they show up in club log.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 Hi Mark! I was searching for call signs of satellite operators who have worked CY9C, going back to the first two stations that worked them (2E0SQL, KB1PVH) as reported via Twitter. I don't see those calls in the log. For some satellite operators, I only saw HF QSOs listed in the log (i.e., N8HM shows up for 30m CW). I did not expect anything for my call, since as of now (1430 UTC) the log was only updated through 1447 UTC yesterday, and I worked them on AO-7 at 2106 UTC yesterday. I'm not worrying about the log search. Seems like satellite QSOs don't show up in these log searches, at least not right away, since the log records need to have the additional fields inserted to indicate a satellite QSO. As Clayton said, if you still need a CY9C in your satellite log, it's time to start looking at any passes that cover both you and them. Don't just rely on seeing AMSAT-BB posts or Twitter to plan your passes. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Clayton, > > Do you know if satellite QSOs are reflected in the 2m ClubLog results? If > so, it's easy to see if your station is in the log and know that those > "insurance" contacts are unnecessary. (As of yesterday, my satellite QSO > was not shown in ClubLog. But I know it takes awhile, especially if > weather > has everything shut down.) > > -- > Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ > Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 26 16:13:07 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:13:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 In-Reply-To: <341CBF3BFA5D42ACB4FF05794D52A476@kb2m4PC> References: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> <635077970F51427287155B28FA569741@kb2m4PC> <341CBF3BFA5D42ACB4FF05794D52A476@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: They are in Club Log as K1N/SAT. But, yes, there aren't any expedition logging packages that I'm aware of that are satellite friendly. By the way, a recent DXKeeper upgrade cemented it's status as the best logging software for satellite QSOs. Nothing comes close for entering QSOs or tracking satellite award progress, 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Jeff wrote: > Hmmm, I just checked clublog for K1N and the 2m entries never made it to > clublog. 2M doesn't even show up as a possible contact. They all made it to > LoTW though, and I also got a card. So I'm not sure on what's happening here > with the log, I would still bet the logging software might not be sat > contact friendly. I know I'm good on FO-29 as I'm on one of Clayton's > recordings... :-) > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > -----Original Message----- From: Jeff > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:17 AM > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 > > The Sat contacts might need to be re-entered depending on the logging > software used. My NJ radio club SJDXA was the QSL manager for among others > K1N. The log entries for Navassa weren't properly put in the log till after > the DXPedition was over. I offered to enter them , but N2OO took care of it, > all 27 of them. So it might be awhile before they show up in club log.... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 > > Hi Mark! > > I was searching for call signs of satellite operators who have > worked CY9C, going back to the first two stations that worked > them (2E0SQL, KB1PVH) as reported via Twitter. I don't see those > calls in the log. For some satellite operators, I only saw HF QSOs > listed in the log (i.e., N8HM shows up for 30m CW). I did not expect > anything for my call, since as of now (1430 UTC) the log was only > updated through 1447 UTC yesterday, and I worked them on AO-7 > at 2106 UTC yesterday. > > I'm not worrying about the log search. Seems like satellite QSOs > don't show up in these log searches, at least not right away, since > the log records need to have the additional fields inserted to > indicate a satellite QSO. As Clayton said, if you still need a > CY9C in your satellite log, it's time to start looking at any passes > that cover both you and them. Don't just rely on seeing AMSAT-BB > posts or Twitter to plan your passes. > > 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB > >> wrote: > > >> Clayton, >> >> Do you know if satellite QSOs are reflected in the 2m ClubLog results? If >> so, it's easy to see if your station is in the log and know that those >> "insurance" contacts are unnecessary. (As of yesterday, my satellite QSO >> was not shown in ClubLog. But I know it takes awhile, especially if >> weather >> has everything shut down.) >> >> -- >> Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ >> Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k8bl at ameritech.net Fri Aug 26 18:23:51 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C on AO-7 References: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871@mail.yahoo.com> Worked CY9C on AO-7 ?Mode B today at 1813Zwith my Call and Club Call N8BC. He was there the entire pass and was constantly QRZ,but no one else was there to work him. Very lonely! Let's make their Sat efforts worth it! 73, ? ? ?Bob ?K8BL From kb2m at comcast.net Fri Aug 26 18:26:24 2016 From: kb2m at comcast.net (Jeff) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:26:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 In-Reply-To: References: <488726276.230211.1472221422549@mail.yahoo.com> <635077970F51427287155B28FA569741@kb2m4PC> <341CBF3BFA5D42ACB4FF05794D52A476@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: I saw that update Paul. It's great for someone who logs after the fact. I log each contact in realtime to get the time right then edit the log afterwards, to correct the U/L, D/L, SATname and MODE. So I don't think the update to DXKeeper will help much in my situation. If I work SO-50 or AO-85 I pre select the correct sat defaults beforehand. On the SSB birds there aren't enough contacts per pass to bother with the preselects, editing each contact is easier... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:13 PM To: Jeff Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 They are in Club Log as K1N/SAT. But, yes, there aren't any expedition logging packages that I'm aware of that are satellite friendly. By the way, a recent DXKeeper upgrade cemented it's status as the best logging software for satellite QSOs. Nothing comes close for entering QSOs or tracking satellite award progress, 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Jeff wrote: > Hmmm, I just checked clublog for K1N and the 2m entries never made it to > clublog. 2M doesn't even show up as a possible contact. They all made it > to > LoTW though, and I also got a card. So I'm not sure on what's happening > here > with the log, I would still bet the logging software might not be sat > contact friendly. I know I'm good on FO-29 as I'm on one of Clayton's > recordings... :-) > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > -----Original Message----- From: Jeff > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:17 AM > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 > > The Sat contacts might need to be re-entered depending on the logging > software used. My NJ radio club SJDXA was the QSL manager for among > others > K1N. The log entries for Navassa weren't properly put in the log till > after > the DXPedition was over. I offered to enter them , but N2OO took care of > it, > all 27 of them. So it might be awhile before they show up in club log.... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite update August 26 > > Hi Mark! > > I was searching for call signs of satellite operators who have > worked CY9C, going back to the first two stations that worked > them (2E0SQL, KB1PVH) as reported via Twitter. I don't see those > calls in the log. For some satellite operators, I only saw HF QSOs > listed in the log (i.e., N8HM shows up for 30m CW). I did not expect > anything for my call, since as of now (1430 UTC) the log was only > updated through 1447 UTC yesterday, and I worked them on AO-7 > at 2106 UTC yesterday. > > I'm not worrying about the log search. Seems like satellite QSOs > don't show up in these log searches, at least not right away, since > the log records need to have the additional fields inserted to > indicate a satellite QSO. As Clayton said, if you still need a > CY9C in your satellite log, it's time to start looking at any passes > that cover both you and them. Don't just rely on seeing AMSAT-BB > posts or Twitter to plan your passes. > > 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB > > >> wrote: > > >> Clayton, >> >> Do you know if satellite QSOs are reflected in the 2m ClubLog results? If >> so, it's easy to see if your station is in the log and know that those >> "insurance" contacts are unnecessary. (As of yesterday, my satellite QSO >> was not shown in ClubLog. But I know it takes awhile, especially if >> weather >> has everything shut down.) >> >> -- >> Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ >> Decorah, Iowa USA EN43 > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 26 18:30:05 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:30:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C on AO-7 In-Reply-To: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1223646399.370440.1472235831871@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, absolutely, get on and work them! Just a general FYI - AO-7 is starting to get more stable. For the past several months, it has often been weak and very susceptible to random mode switches, but I've noticed that over the past several days, it's been much better. I suspect this has to do with the angle of the sun on the aging solar panels during the northern summer months being less than optimal, and that it's now improving. That's speculation, of course, but regardless get on and use it! 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:23 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > Worked CY9C on AO-7 Mode B today at 1813Zwith my Call and Club Call N8BC. > He was there the entire pass and was constantly QRZ,but no one else was there to work him. Very lonely! > Let's make their Sat efforts worth it! > 73, Bob K8BL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From samy_b1 at shell4you.net Fri Aug 26 19:02:37 2016 From: samy_b1 at shell4you.net (Yanko Yankov) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:02:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Satdx-bb] CY9C on AO-7 In-Reply-To: <004c01d1ffcb$f77021a0$e65064e0$@w0dhb.net> References: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1223646399.370440.1472235831871@mail.yahoo.com> <004c01d1ffcb$f77021a0$e65064e0$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: Me too . Worked him on 3 passes yesterday. No takers . He was very lonely . Yanko,NX9G On August 26, 2016 1:59:25 PM CDT, David W0DHB wrote: >Same happened to me also, I had'em all to myself. > >Dave W0DHB > >-----Original Message----- >From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of >R.T.Liddy >Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:24 >To: AMSAT BB ; Satdx-bb >Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C on AO-7 > >Worked CY9C on AO-7 Mode B today at 1813Zwith my Call and Club Call >N8BC. >He was there the entire pass and was constantly QRZ,but no one else was >there to work him. Very lonely! >Let's make their Sat efforts worth it! >73, Bob K8BL >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >_______________________________________________ >Satdx-bb mailing list >Satdx-bb at star-com.net >http://lists.star-com.net/listinfo/satdx-bb -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From dave at w0dhb.net Fri Aug 26 18:59:25 2016 From: dave at w0dhb.net (David W0DHB) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:59:25 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C on AO-7 In-Reply-To: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1223646399.370440.1472235831871@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004c01d1ffcb$f77021a0$e65064e0$@w0dhb.net> Same happened to me also, I had'em all to myself. Dave W0DHB -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:24 To: AMSAT BB ; Satdx-bb Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C on AO-7 Worked CY9C on AO-7 Mode B today at 1813Zwith my Call and Club Call N8BC. He was there the entire pass and was constantly QRZ,but no one else was there to work him. Very lonely! Let's make their Sat efforts worth it! 73, Bob K8BL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk5do at amsat.org Fri Aug 26 19:35:42 2016 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:35:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Satdx-bb] CY9C on AO-7 In-Reply-To: References: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1223646399.370440.1472235831871@mail.yahoo.com> <004c01d1ffcb$f77021a0$e65064e0$@w0dhb.net> Message-ID: <67f2cb11-fc21-bda5-da97-65a04e3d1b53@amsat.org> I will try and work them in November when I move and get my satellite antennas back up :-). Right now, limited to FM satellites. Very slim chances from Houston for that. 73...bruce On 8/26/2016 2:02 PM, Yanko Yankov wrote: > Me too . Worked him on 3 passes yesterday. No takers . He was very lonely . > > Yanko,NX9G > > On August 26, 2016 1:59:25 PM CDT, David W0DHB wrote: >> Same happened to me also, I had'em all to myself. >> >> Dave W0DHB >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of >> R.T.Liddy >> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:24 >> To: AMSAT BB ; Satdx-bb >> Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C on AO-7 >> >> Worked CY9C on AO-7 Mode B today at 1813Zwith my Call and Club Call >> N8BC. >> He was there the entire pass and was constantly QRZ,but no one else was >> there to work him. Very lonely! >> Let's make their Sat efforts worth it! >> 73, Bob K8BL >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Satdx-bb mailing list >> Satdx-bb at star-com.net >> http://lists.star-com.net/listinfo/satdx-bb -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri Aug 26 20:05:36 2016 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:05:36 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 mode change Message-ID: Hi All, Just to confirm that FC1 is now in continuous transponder mode for the weekend. 73 Graham G3VZV From martha at amsat.org Fri Aug 26 21:32:28 2016 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 17:32:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed Message-ID: The AMSAT Office will be closed through Wednesday, Sept 7th. Please do not leave messages as I will not be able to answer them. Have fun! -- 73- Martha From lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com Fri Aug 26 22:49:34 2016 From: lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com (Lee Ernstrom) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:49:34 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition Eastern Canada Message-ID: On October 1, 2016 my wife and I will be leaving New Your City aboard the Norwegian Gem on a seven day cruise to eastern Canada. Our ports will be Halifax (FN84) Saint John (FN65), Bar Harbor (FN54), Portland (FN43) and back to New Your City. I have no idea where we will be when SO-50 passes over but I will be on as many passes as I possibly can from whatever grid we are in at the time. I will be using the call sign C6AQD/MM but my Logbook of the World uploads will be just C6AQD. I understand that there are only about two cruises each fall to eastern Canada by the Gem, so if you are looking for it on the Norwegian website you will find it somewhere around the Bahamas right now. All QSOs will be uploaded to LOTW and QSLs will be available upon request. Just send me an email and I will send you a card. No need to send me a card or SASE. I hope we have good weather conditions and that I am able to fill in a new grid square for whoever is in need. WA7HQD/C6AQD Lee (Doc) Ernstrom Syracuse, Utah From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Aug 26 22:55:32 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:55:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition Eastern Canada In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Doc, For data integrity reasons, I strongly suggest you obtain a LoTW certificate for C6AQD/MM with DXCC = 0. Otherwise QSOs you make will be credited as being from the Bahamas. In addition, with LoTW's verification procedures, any QSOs you make from grids which are not within the geographical territory of the Bahamas will not be able to be credited to other user's VUCC accounts. 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Lee Ernstrom wrote: > On October 1, 2016 my wife and I will be leaving New Your City aboard the > Norwegian Gem on a seven day cruise to eastern Canada. Our ports will be > Halifax (FN84) Saint John (FN65), Bar Harbor (FN54), Portland (FN43) and > back to New Your City. > > I have no idea where we will be when SO-50 passes over but I will be on as > many passes as I possibly can from whatever grid we are in at the time. > > I will be using the call sign C6AQD/MM but my Logbook of the World uploads > will be just C6AQD. > > I understand that there are only about two cruises each fall to eastern > Canada by the Gem, so if you are looking for it on the Norwegian website > you will find it somewhere around the Bahamas right now. > > All QSOs will be uploaded to LOTW and QSLs will be available upon request. > Just send me an email and I will send you a card. No need to send me a > card or SASE. > > I hope we have good weather conditions and that I am able to fill in a new > grid square for whoever is in need. > > WA7HQD/C6AQD > Lee (Doc) Ernstrom > Syracuse, Utah > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From plaws0 at gmail.com Sat Aug 27 01:04:26 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:04:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expedition Eastern Canada In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > For data integrity reasons, I strongly suggest you obtain a LoTW > certificate for C6AQD/MM with DXCC = 0. Otherwise QSOs you make will > be credited as being from the Bahamas. I'm pretty sure that if a station is in Canadian territorial waters, it has to abide by Canadian rules. A US-licensed ham need only sign call/VE1 (NS) and call/VE9 (NB)(and I think you have to state your location periodically, too). I have NO idea what the arrangements are for a C6 licensee ... IARP? CEPT? CITEL? ?\_(?)_/? -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From johnbrier at gmail.com Sat Aug 27 04:47:08 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 00:47:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA activations on Outer Banks of NC this weekend Message-ID: I'll be at Nags Head, North Carolina Saturday through Monday and I plan to activate some of the National Parks while I'm there. There are three nearby: Fort Raleigh, Wright Brothers National Memorial, and Cape Lookout National Seashore. I will try to activate them on SO-50, and possibly AO-85 if I can get into it (the last time I tried I could barely get in but I think my HT wasn't fully charged). Sorry I can't provide exact passes at this time, I'm just not sure when I'll be able to do it as I'll be there for other reasons than just sats ;-) I'll try to send out notifications of passes when I know on amsat-bb and/or Twitter: https://twitter.com/johnbrier 73, John Brier KG4AKV From iz5xrc at gmail.com Sat Aug 27 05:58:56 2016 From: iz5xrc at gmail.com (Fabio Azzarello) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 07:58:56 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Instant Track co-visibility Message-ID: Hello everybody, I was wondering if there is a way to predict the visibility of a single satellite from two or more ground stations. I will use Instant Track, but I would like to have a suggestion for a more recent sw. It 'a pity that IT is no more updated, it would be very nice to have a port of it on linux. 73 Fabio IZ5XRC From nss at mwt.net Sat Aug 27 14:05:58 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 09:05:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Message-ID: <3ede737e-73df-c1ec-f423-471510399579@mwt.net> So, what's the official status of this Energizer Bunny of the Amateur Sat world? I know the BATTS are I guess for a better choice of words Dead. So it is running solely on the panels power. And that feat alone is amazing that the panels are still producing power. So, can anyone tell me, when will it be somewhat ,, well at least as reliable as possible, of knowing when it will be in Mode "A" Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Aug 27 14:12:13 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:12:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 In-Reply-To: <3ede737e-73df-c1ec-f423-471510399579@mwt.net> References: <3ede737e-73df-c1ec-f423-471510399579@mwt.net> Message-ID: It'll switch between Mode A and Mode B reliably every 24 hours when it's in constant sunlight. It'll be in constant sunlight starting September 29th according to DK3WN's Illum program. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Joe wrote: > So, what's the official status of this Energizer Bunny of the Amateur Sat > world? > > I know the BATTS are I guess for a better choice of words Dead. So it is > running solely on the panels power. And that feat alone is amazing that the > panels are still producing power. > > So, can anyone tell me, when will it be somewhat ,, well at least as > reliable as possible, of knowing when it will be in Mode "A" > > Joe WB9SBD > -- > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Sat Aug 27 14:17:52 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 09:17:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 In-Reply-To: References: <3ede737e-73df-c1ec-f423-471510399579@mwt.net> Message-ID: <81a54d7c-4760-66b6-80aa-2a3b4f400e36@mwt.net> What time does the switch happen, at 00:00Z or what? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/27/2016 9:12 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > It'll switch between Mode A and Mode B reliably every 24 hours when > it's in constant sunlight. It'll be in constant sunlight starting > September 29th according to DK3WN's Illum program. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Joe wrote: >> So, what's the official status of this Energizer Bunny of the Amateur Sat >> world? >> >> I know the BATTS are I guess for a better choice of words Dead. So it is >> running solely on the panels power. And that feat alone is amazing that the >> panels are still producing power. >> >> So, can anyone tell me, when will it be somewhat ,, well at least as >> reliable as possible, of knowing when it will be in Mode "A" >> >> Joe WB9SBD >> -- >> Sig >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >> Idle Tyme >> Idle-Tyme.com >> http://www.idle-tyme.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Aug 27 14:27:28 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:27:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 In-Reply-To: <81a54d7c-4760-66b6-80aa-2a3b4f400e36@mwt.net> References: <3ede737e-73df-c1ec-f423-471510399579@mwt.net> <81a54d7c-4760-66b6-80aa-2a3b4f400e36@mwt.net> Message-ID: <06ae01d2006f$23e29f30$6ba7dd90$@com> 24 hours after it comes out of eclipse. It's not under active management. Watch http://www.amsat.org/status/ and it will be easy to tell about when it switches. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:18 AM To: Paul Stoetzer Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 What time does the switch happen, at 00:00Z or what? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/27/2016 9:12 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > It'll switch between Mode A and Mode B reliably every 24 hours when > it's in constant sunlight. It'll be in constant sunlight starting > September 29th according to DK3WN's Illum program. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Joe wrote: >> So, what's the official status of this Energizer Bunny of the Amateur >> Sat world? >> >> I know the BATTS are I guess for a better choice of words Dead. So it >> is running solely on the panels power. And that feat alone is amazing >> that the panels are still producing power. >> >> So, can anyone tell me, when will it be somewhat ,, well at least as >> reliable as possible, of knowing when it will be in Mode "A" >> >> Joe WB9SBD >> -- >> Sig >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >> Idle Tyme >> Idle-Tyme.com >> http://www.idle-tyme.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Aug 27 15:04:16 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 11:04:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Instant Track co-visibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06cc01d20074$479f8a50$d6de9ef0$@com> WinListen, part of SatPC32, does mutual windows for two stations, one satellite at a time. It works well. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Fabio Azzarello Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:59 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Instant Track co-visibility Hello everybody, I was wondering if there is a way to predict the visibility of a single satellite from two or more ground stations. I will use Instant Track, but I would like to have a suggestion for a more recent sw. It 'a pity that IT is no more updated, it would be very nice to have a port of it on linux. 73 Fabio IZ5XRC _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Sat Aug 27 15:13:46 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:13:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 In-Reply-To: References: <3ede737e-73df-c1ec-f423-471510399579@mwt.net> <81a54d7c-4760-66b6-80aa-2a3b4f400e36@mwt.net> Message-ID: <7bfa2646-3055-046f-4ec2-695882b27f39@mwt.net> This Illum program seems interesting,, Link Please? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/27/2016 9:20 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > The clock resets each eclipse, so there's no way to tell exactly until > it's actually in constant sunlight. Once it is, it'll be every 24 > hours counting from it's last eclipse. > > According to the Illum program, the last eclipse ends at 14:15 UTC on > September 28th. If that is truly the case, and the satellite doesn't > lose power due to a subsequent near-eclipse, it'll switch every day > around 14:15 UTC. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Joe > wrote: > > What time does the switch happen, at 00:00Z or what? > > Joe WB9SBD > > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/27/2016 9:12 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> It'll switch between Mode A and Mode B reliably every 24 hours when >> it's in constant sunlight. It'll be in constant sunlight starting >> September 29th according to DK3WN's Illum program. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Joe wrote: >>> So, what's the official status of this Energizer Bunny of the Amateur Sat >>> world? >>> >>> I know the BATTS are I guess for a better choice of words Dead. So it is >>> running solely on the panels power. And that feat alone is amazing that the >>> panels are still producing power. >>> >>> So, can anyone tell me, when will it be somewhat ,, well at least as >>> reliable as possible, of knowing when it will be in Mode "A" >>> >>> Joe WB9SBD >>> -- >>> Sig >>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >>> Idle Tyme >>> Idle-Tyme.com >>> http://www.idle-tyme.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> > From wa4sca at gmail.com Sat Aug 27 15:32:30 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:32:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 In-Reply-To: <7bfa2646-3055-046f-4ec2-695882b27f39@mwt.net> References: <3ede737e-73df-c1ec-f423-471510399579@mwt.net> <81a54d7c-4760-66b6-80aa-2a3b4f400e36@mwt.net> <7bfa2646-3055-046f-4ec2-695882b27f39@mwt.net> Message-ID: <000001d20078$39afbe20$ad0f3a60$@GMAIL.COM> http://www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml Look down the page for Illum Software. The software itself is in English. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- The clock resets each eclipse, so there's no way to tell exactly until <> it's actually in constant sunlight. Once it is, it'll be every 24 <> hours counting from it's last eclipse. <> <> According to the Illum program, the last eclipse ends at 14:15 UTC on <> September 28th. If that is truly the case, and the satellite doesn't <> lose power due to a subsequent near-eclipse, it'll switch every day <> around 14:15 UTC. <> <> 73, <> <> Paul, N8HM <> <> <> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Joe > wrote: <> <> What time does the switch happen, at 00:00Z or what? <> <> Joe WB9SBD <> <> The Original Rolling Ball Clock <> Idle Tyme <> Idle-Tyme.com <> http://www.idle-tyme.com <> On 8/27/2016 9:12 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: <>> It'll switch between Mode A and Mode B reliably every 24 hours when <>> it's in constant sunlight. It'll be in constant sunlight starting <>> September 29th according to DK3WN's Illum program. <>> <>> 73, <>> <>> Paul, N8HM <>> <>> <>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Joe wrote: <>>> So, what's the official status of this Energizer Bunny of the Amateur Sat <>>> world? <>>> <>>> I know the BATTS are I guess for a better choice of words Dead. So it is <>>> running solely on the panels power. And that feat alone is amazing that the <>>> panels are still producing power. <>>> <>>> So, can anyone tell me, when will it be somewhat ,, well at least as <>>> reliable as possible, of knowing when it will be in Mode "A" <>>> <>>> Joe WB9SBD <>>> -- <>>> Sig <>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock <>>> Idle Tyme <>>> Idle-Tyme.com <>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com <>>> _______________________________________________ <>>> Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <>>> expressed <>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>>> AMSAT-NA. <>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <>>> Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>>> <> <_______________________________________________ References: <1223646399.370440.1472235831871.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1223646399.370440.1472235831871@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007d01d2008b$34983490$9dc89db0$@bbnpost.dk> Have been QRV on passes from EU but nothing heard, worked on late passes some K3 and NK1 stations ? but will give a try on the passes where EU is possible. Mvh OZ1MAX Hardy J. Wounlund Birkevej 21 Sulb?k 9300 S?by Mobil: 26 14 89 10 Mail: Hardyj at bbnpost.dk Fra: Satdx-bb [mailto:satdx-bb-bounces at star-com.net] P? vegne af R.T.Liddy Sendt: 26. august 2016 20:24 Til: AMSAT BB ; Satdx-bb Emne: [Satdx-bb] CY9C on AO-7 Worked CY9C on AO-7 Mode B today at 1813Z with my Call and Club Call N8BC. He was there the entire pass and was constantly QRZ, but no one else was there to work him. Very lonely! Let's make their Sat efforts worth it! 73, Bob K8BL From johnbrier at gmail.com Sat Aug 27 20:26:00 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:26:00 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA activations on Outer Banks of NC this weekend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will activate Cape Hatteras National Seashore SS04 on the 0354 UTC SO-50 pass. It's 86 degrees in elevation for me. Note earlier I said cape lookout. I was cofused. It will be Cape Hatteras National Seashore. 73 John Brier KG4AKV On Aug 27, 2016 12:47 AM, "John Brier" wrote: > I'll be at Nags Head, North Carolina Saturday through Monday and I > plan to activate some of the National Parks while I'm there. There are > three nearby: Fort Raleigh, Wright Brothers National Memorial, and > Cape Lookout National Seashore. > > I will try to activate them on SO-50, and possibly AO-85 if I can get > into it (the last time I tried I could barely get in but I think my HT > wasn't fully charged). > > Sorry I can't provide exact passes at this time, I'm just not sure > when I'll be able to do it as I'll be there for other reasons than > just sats ;-) > > I'll try to send out notifications of passes when I know on amsat-bb > and/or Twitter: > > https://twitter.com/johnbrier > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > From nss at mwt.net Sat Aug 27 21:10:39 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:10:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Beacons Message-ID: <3a649cbd-2aee-f8d7-c8c1-65bfffe56647@mwt.net> Are the beacons still functional? And do they always run, or is the 10 meter beacon functional only when the bird is in mode "A" Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Aug 27 21:13:28 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:13:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Beacons In-Reply-To: <3a649cbd-2aee-f8d7-c8c1-65bfffe56647@mwt.net> References: <3a649cbd-2aee-f8d7-c8c1-65bfffe56647@mwt.net> Message-ID: As with most things with this satellite, it depends. Usually I hear the 145.972 MHz beacon as mostly a warbly tone. Sometimes it does send good CW. The 29.502 MHz beacon is only active in Mode A. I haven't heard any reports of the 435.100 MHz Mode A or D beacon active recently, but it's one to look out for when the transponders are both off or it's in Mode A. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Joe wrote: > Are the beacons still functional? > > And do they always run, or is the 10 meter beacon functional only when the > bird is in mode "A" > > Joe WB9SBD > -- > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Aug 27 21:46:38 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:46:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Last chance for CY9C TONIGHT! Message-ID: WW2DX just tweeted that the CY9C satellite station is still set up and they are still working passes. I do not know if they will be on all passes, but listen for them on any pass you have a footprint if you have not yet worked them. If I get any word about specific passes, I will let the BB know. 73, Paul, N8HM From n0jy at amsat.org Sat Aug 27 21:53:24 2016 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:53:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Last chance for CY9C TONIGHT! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71426bb9-dbc7-e77f-4327-58a7fd842a50@amsat.org> So, each band/mode counts for HF - does each satellite/mode count for something here, too? Or work 'em once on whatever mode one whatever satellite, you got 'em in the log and that's it? Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/27/2016 16:46, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > WW2DX just tweeted that the CY9C satellite station is still set up and > they are still working passes. I do not know if they will be on all > passes, but listen for them on any pass you have a footprint if you > have not yet worked them. > > If I get any word about specific passes, I will let the BB know. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Aug 27 22:07:05 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:07:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Last chance for CY9C TONIGHT! In-Reply-To: <71426bb9-dbc7-e77f-4327-58a7fd842a50@amsat.org> References: <71426bb9-dbc7-e77f-4327-58a7fd842a50@amsat.org> Message-ID: Not really, though some of us nerds do like to keep stats for each satellite! Since I don't want to step on anyone, I only worked them once on FO-29 and once on AO-85. I also made sure to get the AMSAT club call, W3ZM, a QSO with them. There are still a few sat ops out there that haven't had a chance to work them yet, so I hope everyone who wants to can get them in the log tonight. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > So, each band/mode counts for HF - does each satellite/mode count for > something here, too? > Or work 'em once on whatever mode one whatever satellite, you got 'em in > the log and that's it? > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 8/27/2016 16:46, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> WW2DX just tweeted that the CY9C satellite station is still set up and >> they are still working passes. I do not know if they will be on all >> passes, but listen for them on any pass you have a footprint if you >> have not yet worked them. >> >> If I get any word about specific passes, I will let the BB know. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From zmetzing at pobox.com Sat Aug 27 22:49:59 2016 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:49:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Beacons In-Reply-To: <3a649cbd-2aee-f8d7-c8c1-65bfffe56647@mwt.net> References: <3a649cbd-2aee-f8d7-c8c1-65bfffe56647@mwt.net> Message-ID: <045c1f31-1d6b-203d-9b6d-d9cbf55c2a8f@pobox.com> On 08/27/16 16:10, Joe wrote: > Are the beacons still functional? > > And do they always run, or is the 10 meter beacon functional only when > the bird is in mode "A" > > Joe WB9SBD I didn't hear the beacon on the 2050Z pass at my QTH, but I don't have the best setup at the moment. Do you have an AZ/EL setup or an omni? How easy is it for you to copy the average QSO on a relatively high pass? --- Zach N0ZGO From nss at mwt.net Sat Aug 27 22:58:41 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:58:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Beacons In-Reply-To: <045c1f31-1d6b-203d-9b6d-d9cbf55c2a8f@pobox.com> References: <3a649cbd-2aee-f8d7-c8c1-65bfffe56647@mwt.net> <045c1f31-1d6b-203d-9b6d-d9cbf55c2a8f@pobox.com> Message-ID: I'm still in lurking mode at the moment. I'm just about ready to activate on NO-84. And just listening for not to see if I ever hear anything on AO-7 Mode "A" at all yet. Last time I heard a signal on that bird was ohhh 1978? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/27/2016 5:49 PM, Zach Metzinger wrote: > On 08/27/16 16:10, Joe wrote: >> Are the beacons still functional? >> >> And do they always run, or is the 10 meter beacon functional only when >> the bird is in mode "A" >> >> Joe WB9SBD > > I didn't hear the beacon on the 2050Z pass at my QTH, but I don't have > the best setup at the moment. > > Do you have an AZ/EL setup or an omni? How easy is it for you to copy > the average QSO on a relatively high pass? > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From kk5do at amsat.org Sat Aug 27 23:26:54 2016 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:26:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Last chance for CY9C TONIGHT! In-Reply-To: <71426bb9-dbc7-e77f-4327-58a7fd842a50@amsat.org> References: <71426bb9-dbc7-e77f-4327-58a7fd842a50@amsat.org> Message-ID: It matters not what satellite you work someone on or what mode. The ARRL and AMSAT count a satellite contact per DXCC entity, State, VE Call area or Grid Square, etc, not which satellite or mode you used to make the contact. A contact on 5 satellites using CW, Phone, DStar, Packet, APRS, all count the same.... a satellite contact. 73...bruce On 8/27/2016 4:53 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > So, each band/mode counts for HF - does each satellite/mode count for > something here, too? > Or work 'em once on whatever mode one whatever satellite, you got 'em in > the log and that's it? > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 8/27/2016 16:46, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> WW2DX just tweeted that the CY9C satellite station is still set up and >> they are still working passes. I do not know if they will be on all >> passes, but listen for them on any pass you have a footprint if you >> have not yet worked them. >> >> If I get any word about specific passes, I will let the BB know. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From n0jy at amsat.org Sun Aug 28 00:53:13 2016 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 19:53:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Last chance for CY9C TONIGHT! In-Reply-To: References: <71426bb9-dbc7-e77f-4327-58a7fd842a50@amsat.org> Message-ID: <7725dd64-129c-0308-a4ad-026225710cf8@amsat.org> Thanks Bruce, actually glad to hear that since I just worked them once on satellite. But I got to thinking when I looked at the HF stats... :-) Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/27/2016 18:26, Bruce wrote: > It matters not what satellite you work someone on or what mode. The > ARRL and AMSAT count a satellite contact per DXCC entity, State, VE > Call area or Grid Square, etc, not which satellite or mode you used to > make the contact. A contact on 5 satellites using CW, Phone, DStar, > Packet, APRS, all count the same.... a satellite contact. > > 73...bruce > > On 8/27/2016 4:53 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: >> So, each band/mode counts for HF - does each satellite/mode count for >> something here, too? >> Or work 'em once on whatever mode one whatever satellite, you got 'em in >> the log and that's it? >> >> Jerry Buxton, N?JY >> >> On 8/27/2016 16:46, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >>> WW2DX just tweeted that the CY9C satellite station is still set up and >>> they are still working passes. I do not know if they will be on all >>> passes, but listen for them on any pass you have a footprint if you >>> have not yet worked them. >>> >>> If I get any word about specific passes, I will let the BB know. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Paul, N8HM >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >>> views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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August 28, 2016 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-241.01 US ARISS Contacts -Call for Proposals- Runs September 1 - November 1 Message to US Educators Amateur Radio on the International Space Station Contact Opportunity Call for Proposals Proposal Window September 1 - November 1, 2016 The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) Program is seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations, individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew member on board the ISS. ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers of participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education plan. The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016. Proposal information and documents can be found at www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact. The Opportunity Crew members aboard the International Space Station will participate in scheduled Amateur Radio contacts. These radio contacts are approximately 10 minutes in length and allow students to interact with the astronauts through a question-and-answer session. An ARISS contact is a voice-only communication opportunity via Amateur Radio between astronauts and cosmonauts aboard the space station and classrooms and communities. ARISS contacts afford education audiences the opportunity to learn firsthand from astronauts what it is like to live and work in space and to learn about space research conducted on the ISS. Students also will have an opportunity to learn about satellite communication, wireless technology, and radio science. Because of the nature of human spaceflight and the complexity of scheduling activities aboard the ISS, organizations must demonstrate flexibility to accommodate changes in dates and times of the radio contact. Amateur Radio organizations around the world, NASA, and space agencies in Russia, Canada, Japan and Europe sponsor this educational opportunity by providing the equipment and operational support to enable direct communication between crew on the ISS and students around the world via Amateur Radio. In the US, the program is managed by AMSAT (Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation) and ARRL (American Radio Relay League) in partnership with NASA and CASIS (Center for the Advancement of Science in Space). More Information Interested parties can find more information about the program at www.ariss.org and www.arrl.org/ARISS. For proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of Information Sessions go to http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact. Please direct any questions to ariss at arrl dot org. About ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Also, join us on Facebook: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) / Follow us on Twitter: ARISS_status [ANS thanks ARISS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Amateur Satellite Educational Videos David Casler KE0OG has released a couple of videos which aim to explain amateur radio satellites They form part of his collection of training videos for the Amateur Radio Technician, General, and Extra exams. This video introduces the orbital mechanics part of amateur satellites, including the concept of orbits, eccentricity, Keplerian elements, and definitions of key terms. These videos are updated for the 11th edition of the "ARRL Extra Class License Manual for Ham Radio." Watch Amateur Extra Lesson 2.3, Part 1, Amateur Satellites https://youtu.be/Ku9rf9Lwld4 The second half of the video discusses polarization, Faraday rotation, repeaters, transponders, and band and mode designations. Note one error in which I refer to the X band as in the 10 MHz region when it should be 10 GHz. Watch Amateur Extra Section 2.3 Part 2, Amateur Satellites https://youtu.be/ebUeCKjAPFY These videos are updated for the 11th edition of the "ARRL Extra Class License Manual for Ham Radio." David thanks you for watching his videos! His channel, "Ham Radio Answers," is available to help anyone become an active, on-the-air amateur radio operator! David concludes, "I am unique in that I provide the only set of YouTube training videos that accompany the ARRL license manuals, section for section. I try hard to answer every Ask Dave question individually if I can." https://www.youtube.com/user/davecasler [ANS thanks Southgate ARN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Expanding SatNOGS for Satellite Command and Control Although quite some time has passed since their last update, the SatNOGS team and the community has been busy working on it?s software and hardware components, allowing modular setups. A large amount of focus has been with the SatNOGS client software, allowing the user to not only use RTL-SDR based dongles but a far greater variety of SDR solutions using GnuRadio. In conjunction with that, SatNOGS client is able to use Amateur Radios that are supported by hamlib (we?ve already tested on Yaesu and Kenwood radios). Such functionality paired with our new ground station hardware design, and further tests on after market designs such us Yaesu Az/El rotator, would allow the SatNOGS network to not only receive but transmit data via the network to satellites. For a few months now Libre Space Foundation, the organization that assists the development and operation of the SatNOGS networks, has been working together with the University of Patras on developing and manufacturing the first satellite with most of it?s components based upon open hardware and using free software, UPSat, https://upsat.gr/ An open hardware and software satellite, especially one built by Libre Space Foundation would have a great chance for the SatNOGS network to implement command and control features on it?s SatNOGS client, allowing a fully open Low Earth Orbiting satellite communication stack from earth to orbit and back. Communications with the satellite are implemented through ECSS Standard Commands as described in ECSS-E-70-41A standard (CCSDS). You can checkout the code of the client on GitHub https://github.com/satnogs/satnogs-client/tree/dev and the ecss services implemented on the satellite at https://github.com/librespacefoundation/ecss_services There has been a lot of effort to make sure that all the needed functionality on the SatNOGS client has been implemented, while in parallel maintaining modularity and extensibility for future satellites and other protocols. Do you have a satellite in the works and want to use SatNOGS client as command and control? Let us know and we will be happy to work with you expanding our client! https://satnogs.org/2016/08/cnc-librecubesat/ [ANS thanks SatNOGS and Daniel Cussen, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- The AMSAT Office will be closed through Wednesday, Sept 7th Martha announce via the AMSAT-BB that The AMSAT Office will be closed through Wednesday, Sept 7th. She requests "Please do not leave messages as I will not be able to answer them." The office will reopen Thursday September 8. [ANS thanks Martha for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Aves Island DXpedition to Include Satellite Operations Steve, W4DTA/YV5DTA, announced that his group (ARV, Asociacion de Radioaficonados de Venezuela) back in Venezuela got an invitation by the Navy to activate YV0 (Currently the #18 most wanted in the world). A team of 14 operators will depart on August 27th and operate as YX0V for 7-10 days. The team is planning to be active between August 28th and September 5th. Activity will be on all bands (HF/VHF) and modes (CW, SSB, the Digital modes, FM and Satellites). Steve, W4DTA, will be the QSL Manager for the operation. The Caribbean location and flat island terrain should provide excellent footprints across North and South America. Steve, W4DTA/YV5DTA, sent out the following update on August 20th: Hello all.. YX0V team both in YV and here in the USA have been working almost non top! A big FEDEX package was send to Caracas today with shirts, basic supplies and a new antenna analyzer, hopefully it will arrive in time. The team is now working on a contingency plan for power. At the moment there is only one power plant working in YV0, so there are periods of black outs mostly during the night. The team is purchasing a new generator capable of running a few stations, so there might be times that not all stations will be on the air. A operating plan should be available to me very soon. The good news Hams around the world have step up with donations, and that is helping defray some of the cost. More to come, but if you have any questions that you will like me to ask the team, please feel free to email me or call me. 73.... Steve, W4DTA For more details and updates on the YX0V DXpedition, see the following URLs: YX0V Web site: http://yx0v.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/yx0v2016 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/yx0v2016 ADDED NOTES: Tom, W5KUB, hosted an Amateur Radio Roundtable on August 16th, which contains a converstaion with W4DTA/YV5DTA about the upcoming YX0V operation. The video can be viewed on YouTube.com: https://youtu.be/CSTYx2pvBW4?t=1757 Also, watch short videos on YouTube.com at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjGsEFKXVwk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uV89vEuwRM [ANS thanks Steve, W4DTA/YV5DTA and Southgate ARN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Phase 4 Ground weekly report for 26 August 2016 Some of you may know Mr. Brain ?G4GUO. He's been working on DVB-S2 BCH decode and has it correcting errors (big YAY here, this stuff is hard. But his last name is Brain, so there's that.) He's given us the thumbs up to use it on Phase 4. he is planning on using NVIDIA CUDA to do the LDPC decoder because he doesn't think a general CPU will hack it. There's other really good news on the "new hardware that will make our radio easier to build but will take hard work to get fully functional" front. Two types of hardware we can't talk about just yet because the details aren't yet public, but there is a third. (And actually, a fourth, counting the fact that in two days we can buy an SR Systems DVB Modulator because the company will be coming back from their month-long vacation.) That Snapdragon certificate course that I (foolishly, because Time) signed up for at UCSD? The capstone project is coming right up, and I'm going to see how much we can get out of the quad core processor and onboard DSP in efforts to do some type of Phase 4 Ground radio (or radio peripheral) on Android on a DragonBoard 410c. This would be as the final project in the certificate program, so it's worth the time, it's just kind of feeling like school. Slack is really enjoyable to use and useful for having more personal and flexible virtual meetings than email. Slack is not a replacement for the email list, but I'm going to go ahead and invite everyone that has subscribed to the mailing list, to our Phase 4 Ground Slack. (why add Slack? Because it's searchable, integrated with Github and *many* other services and sites, and easy to organize for technical discussions and work.) I believe Jerry (our AMSAT Vice President of Engineering) has filled out the paperwork to get us a free upgrade to the pro version of Slack. This gives us all the useful functions of Slack. We can live with the "free" version, but the upgrade is a big benefit of all those volunteer hours that we logged during the last seven months. Another big deal is that we need computers to volunteer for our two node-locked licenses from Xilinx that allow us to target ALL the chips out there, even the ones in the bigger USRPs. We have a brand new laptop here in San Diego and are trying to figure out Windows or Linux for Vivado. We need a second site that can support FPGA/HDL design. Jerry Buxton nominated Bill Reed in Texas. *Are there any other individuals that want to provide remote development with this license opportunity?* Otherwise, we go with San Diego and Texas. If not, then we put the two that we have so far "on the air". I have about 8 people on the list right now that want to do more FPGA/RFNoC learning, so let's start getting some traction here with the license, logging in, tutorials, take-this-job descriptions, etc. Bob N4HY is giving the Sunday tutorial at TAPR DCC and I agreed to help him. We're going to talk about DARPA Spectrum Collaboration Challenge, why amateur spectrum is under pressure, and what amateurs need to do about it. My proposed title was "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." But Bob countered with "Spectrum Crunch is real. Amateur radio needs to take action." I think mine's funnier but Steve Bible will probably go with Bob's. Anyway, if you're at DCC, please let Mike Sprenger W4UOO know - he's helping coordinate all of us Phase 4 people while we're there so that we can find each other and talk up a storm. Thank you Mike! Please give feedback if you have it. It makes a big difference. I know I told some of you I read minds, but that might have been a small exaggeration. -Michelle W5NYV [ANS thanks Michelle W5NYV via the AMSAT-BB for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Registration Reminder - Continued ** Booking your Carnival Cruise does not register you for the AMSAT Symposium ** There is a charge for each Symposium attendee of $40. This fee applies to those who will attend the technical presentations only and includes a copy of the printed Proceedings. Additional guests are entitled to attend all other events. The registration form is available from the AMSAT office or store website. Online Symposium registration: http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=130 ** Ground transportation options have been added to the FAQ page on the AMSAT Symposium web page** Carnival offers round-trip. Transportation from HOU airport to the cruise terminal at approximately $74 per person, IAH airport $94 per person. If you are traveling to the Board of Directors meeting, you may still utilize the Carnival transportation option for your return to the airport from the cruise terminal. However, you will need to obtain other transportation between the airport and the Galveston DoubleTree hotel. Cruise information may be found at: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 [ANS thanks 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Committee for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by September 15th Ballots have been mailed to AMSAT-NA members in good standing, and must be returned to the AMSAT-NA office by September 15, 2016 in order to be counted. Those sent outside North America were sent by air mail. If you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for your QTH, please contact the AMSAT-NA office. Your completed ballot should be sent as promptly as possible, and those from outside North American preferably by air mail or other expedited means. This year there are five candidates: Tom Clark, K3IO Clayton Coleman, W5PFG Mark Hammond, N8MH Bruce Paige, KK5DO Paul Stoetzer, N8HM The three candidates receiving the highest number of votes will be seated as voting Board Members with two year terms. The two candidates receiving the next highest number of votes will be non-voting Alternate Board Members with terms of one year. Please vote for no more than three candidates. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the Board. Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT-NA. [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News + A Successful contact was made between The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, USA and Astronaut Kate Rubins KG5FYJ using Callsign NA1SS. The contact began 2016-08-23 15:09 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was direct via N9DR. ARISS Mentor was Charlie AJ9N. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule + Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR, direct via KF7TCG. The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS. The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-09-03 18:21:03 UTC School Information: Thomas Jefferson was a scientist and a pioneer in many fields of study including biology, geography, meteorology, and ethnology. Since at least 1793 he had been planning for an exploration of the largest remaining unexplored land on earth: the American West. This resulted in the four pages of detailed instructions that he gave to Meriwether Lewis during their 1801-03 planning for the voyage of the Corps of Discovery. The resulting 1804-06 U.S. Army expedition to explore along the Missouri and Columbia Rivers was led by Captains Meriwether Lewis and William Clark. The 33 diverse members of the Corps spent the winter of 1805-06 at a campsite they built just a few miles from the mouth of the Columbia River and named after the local Clatsop Indians. At Fort Clatsop, the captains planned for the return journey to the United States and worked on writing scientific descriptions of the plants and animals they'd encountered that were new to science (a total of 178 species of plants and 122 animals by the end of the trip). Like President Thomas Jefferson and Captain Meriwether Lewis, today's astronauts have a curiosity for exploring beyond known frontiers. Some local students who have participated in various education programs at Lewis and Clark National Historical Park and live in surrounding Clatsop County have been learning about the International Space Station (ISS) and are hoping to have a brief radio conversation with an ISS astronaut. All of these students live in Clatsop County and are familiar with the park through field trips, park summer camps, family visits, or education programs with rangers visiting their classrooms. The park connected with these students through four relationships: 1. The Northwest Regional Educational Service District and the Astoria School District offer a migrant summer school to serve students who have moved within the last three years for their parent's work. Several of these students participated in summer camps that the park offered and they were excited about the opportunity to learn about the International Space Station and talk with an astronaut. 2. Three small local Girl Scout Troops (#10025, #10026, #10086) were interested in this opportunity as they have been focusing on the three keys to Girl Scouting which are Discovering, Connecting, and Taking Action. The girls and their leaders were happy to incorporate this ARISS opportunity into their projects. 3. The Fort Clatsop District of Boy Scouts includes local troop #509 and #542. Since Scouting is about character development and having confidence in yourself to Be Prepared, the ARISS program is a good challenge for these youngsters. Their district is named in honor of the 1805-06 winter encampment of the 33 people of the Lewis and Clark Expedition. 4. Three of the youth recruited for this special program are children or grandchildren of Lewis and Clark National Historical Park rangers and were excited to learn that an astronaut radio conversation would be happening in their park. Students & Anticipated Questions: 1. Alejandra (12): To prepare for his journey, Captain Meriwether Lewis was tutored by experts in medicine, navigation, astronomy, mathematics, botany, and paleontology. What was the hardest part of your training? 2. Kevin (13): The Corps of Discovery enjoyed fiddle music, do you listen to music in space? If so, what kind? 3. Katie (11): How different does your body feel in microgravity and how long does it take to adjust after arrival in the space station? 4. Liam (8): Lewis and Clark failed to find a Northwest Passage. Have any of your experiments failed or not gone like you wanted? 5. Nahomy (Naomi) (10): While wintering at Fort Clatsop, the Corps of Discovery made buckskin clothes as their uniforms wore out. How many outfits of clothing do you have with you, and what kind of material are they made from? 6. Dashel (7): Why do you like communicating with kids? 7. Kelsey (11): Meriwether Lewis treasured an ermine scarf he received from a Shoshone chief. Do you have a souvenir from space? If so, what is it? 8. Sophie (8): Do you create art from the views from the space station? 9. Derek (8): When is your next spacewalk? What is your favorite thing when you are outside the space station? 10. Crystal (12): Lewis brought his dog Seaman with him on the expedition. Are there any research animals on the space station now? If so, what are they? 11. Xochitl (Sochi) (13): Although most members of the Corps of Discovery were single, York and John Shields had families at home. Do you miss your family, and how do you communicate with them? 12. Frances (8): Do you guys keep journal like Lewis and Clark did? 13. Rylee (7): If a microorganism changed genetically on the International Space Station would it be considered a space alien? 14. Logan (6): Were you in a scouting program as a child? If so, did it affect your desire to work in space? 15. Linnea (8): Lewis and Clark played backgammon. What games do you play? 16. Josie (8): When Sacagawea became sick, Lewis treated her. If you get hurt or sick, who treats you? 17. Rosalinda (9): What are your space suits made of, and can they catch on fire? 18. Belinda (9): How do you protect your eyes when the space station is facing the sun? 19. Elias (13): Are you doing any experiments with animals adapting to microgravity? 20. Samantha (10): What does a shooting star or a meteor shower look like from space? [ANS thanks ARISS via Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + International EME Conference Presentation Videos Videos of the presentations given at the 17th International EME conference, held in Venice August 19-21, 2016 are now available. They include talks by Sam G4DDK @DXING, Dave G4HUP, Charlie G3WDG, Alex ZS6EME and Joe Taylor K1JT. Watch the videos on the YouTube channel of Giulio Pico IW3HVB at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFct56EA6F9lkqMBmydh5hw EME 2016 The schedule of the EME presentations is posted at: http://www.eme2016.org/index.php/25-2/ [ANS thanks 17th International EME Conference and IW3HVB for the above information] + SPACE EXPLORATION EDUCATORS CONFERENCE (SEEC) February 9-11, 2017 at Space Center Houston 1601 NASA Pkwy, Houston, TX 77058 Experience three days of complete immersion into the out-of-this world adventure of space exploration! This conference is for grades kindergarten to 12th ? and not just for science teachers! Space Center Houston strives to use space to teach across the curriculum. The activities presented can be used for science, language arts, mathematics, history, and more. Attend sessions hosted by the actual scientists and engineers working on exciting endeavors like the International Space Station and explorations of Mars and the planets beyond. Hear from the astronauts leading the charge in exploration! Come learn about the bold vision to send humans back to the Moon and off to Mars! Attend sessions presented by educators and receive ready to implement classroom ideas and experience minds-on, hands-on fun. Network with fellow educators, take back a multitude of cross-curriculum ideas and activities and earn 24 hours of continuing professional education credit. For more information or to register, visit : http://spacecenterSEEC.org, email seec at spacecenter dot org or call (281)244-2149. [ANS thanks NEON - NASA Educators Online Network] + There has been a date change for the satellite presention to the Victor Valley (CA) ARC. The presentation will take place Tuesday, OCTOBER 11, 2016, 7:00 PM at the Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA. [ANS thanks Clint K6LCS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM aa8em at amsat dot org From johnbrier at gmail.com Sun Aug 28 07:51:37 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 03:51:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA activations on Outer Banks of NC this weekend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This NPOTA contact was successful. I made 11 contacts and my last contact was CY9C who I never contacted anywhere else. It was kind of funny listening to the recording, because at first I thought I made only 10 contacts, and CY9C was the last one, which would have been a perfect story, but later I realized Paul, N8HM used his personal call *and* the AMSAT NA club call, W3ZM to contact me. So I actually made 11 contacts. Better safe than sorry. Thanks to all the stations who helped me make this activation successful: 01) KO4MA EL88 02) NAHM/W3ZM FM18 03) WA5KBH 04) W5CBF EM30 05) W4FS FM06 06) K5ND EM12 07) KC9ELU EM79 08) KI4RO EM88 09) N8RO EM00 10) CY9C FN97 11) +1 for N8HM as W3ZM I took some cool pics of the Bodie Island Lighthouse I was next to and the Milky Way Galaxy. It was a beautiful evening: https://www.facebook.com/johnbrier/posts/10102322637697528 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:26 PM, John Brier wrote: > I will activate Cape Hatteras National Seashore SS04 on the 0354 UTC SO-50 > pass. It's 86 degrees in elevation for me. > > Note earlier I said cape lookout. I was cofused. It will be Cape Hatteras > National Seashore. > > 73 John Brier KG4AKV > > On Aug 27, 2016 12:47 AM, "John Brier" wrote: >> >> I'll be at Nags Head, North Carolina Saturday through Monday and I >> plan to activate some of the National Parks while I'm there. There are >> three nearby: Fort Raleigh, Wright Brothers National Memorial, and >> Cape Lookout National Seashore. >> >> I will try to activate them on SO-50, and possibly AO-85 if I can get >> into it (the last time I tried I could barely get in but I think my HT >> wasn't fully charged). >> >> Sorry I can't provide exact passes at this time, I'm just not sure >> when I'll be able to do it as I'll be there for other reasons than >> just sats ;-) >> >> I'll try to send out notifications of passes when I know on amsat-bb >> and/or Twitter: >> >> https://twitter.com/johnbrier >> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV From kk0sd1 at att.net Sun Aug 28 14:56:57 2016 From: kk0sd1 at att.net (Gary "Joe" Mayfield) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:56:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-991 (radio Question) Message-ID: <000401d2013c$6dab15c0$49014140$@att.net> Just double checking - I assume the FT-991 can NOT do full duplex satellite communications. Is this correct? I'm thinking the only radios on the 'new' market that that currently do all mode full duplex satellite communications out of the box are : Icom IC-9100 Kenwood TS-2000 Is this correct? My old reliable FT-847 is now passing the 16 year mark, and I am considering an update. Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd From johnbrier at gmail.com Sun Aug 28 17:44:33 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:44:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA activations on Outer Banks of NC this weekend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will attempt to activate Cape Hatteras National Seashore SS04 and grid FM25 on the 1949 UTC AO-7 pass. It's 88 degrees elevation. I say attempt because I've never even tried to work a linear bird. I'll be half duplex with an Arrow and Icom IC-706 Mkiig. Please be gentle and patient ;-) I also got permission to operate from the top of the memorial statue at Wright Brothers National Memorial NM29. I'm going to activate that on the 1254 UTC SO-50 pass tomorrow. It's 81 degrees elevation. 73, KG4AKV On Aug 27, 2016 12:47 AM, "John Brier" wrote: > I'll be at Nags Head, North Carolina Saturday through Monday and I > plan to activate some of the National Parks while I'm there. There are > three nearby: Fort Raleigh, Wright Brothers National Memorial, and > Cape Lookout National Seashore. > > I will try to activate them on SO-50, and possibly AO-85 if I can get > into it (the last time I tried I could barely get in but I think my HT > wasn't fully charged). > > Sorry I can't provide exact passes at this time, I'm just not sure > when I'll be able to do it as I'll be there for other reasons than > just sats ;-) > > I'll try to send out notifications of passes when I know on amsat-bb > and/or Twitter: > > https://twitter.com/johnbrier > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > From kb2m at comcast.net Sun Aug 28 19:06:46 2016 From: kb2m at comcast.net (Jeff) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 15:06:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-991 (radio Question) In-Reply-To: <000401d2013c$6dab15c0$49014140$@att.net> References: <000401d2013c$6dab15c0$49014140$@att.net> Message-ID: Years ago at the Boxboro hamfest while manning the AMSAT booth I asked Chip Margelli when Yaesu was going to come out with a FullDuplex replacement for the FT-847. He looked at me for a few seconds and said, when are you guys going to get some more satellites up? As the times were lean for launches, I had no answer for him. Well Yaesu, and Chip times have certainly changed.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:56 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-991 (radio Question) Just double checking - I assume the FT-991 can NOT do full duplex satellite communications. Is this correct? I'm thinking the only radios on the 'new' market that that currently do all mode full duplex satellite communications out of the box are : Icom IC-9100 Kenwood TS-2000 Is this correct? My old reliable FT-847 is now passing the 16 year mark, and I am considering an update. Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 29 16:37:25 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:37:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Satellite QSOs now in Club Log Message-ID: The CY9C satellite QSOs seem to now be in Club Log, though there are some minor band/mode inconsistencies. http://www.clublog.org/charts/?c=CY9C 73, Paul, N8HM From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Aug 29 16:43:07 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:43:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Satellite QSOs now in Club Log In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just a quick note - a quick review shows that none of the satellite QSOs from their last evening on the air appear to be in there yet. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > The CY9C satellite QSOs seem to now be in Club Log, though there are > some minor band/mode inconsistencies. > > http://www.clublog.org/charts/?c=CY9C > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM From w9ae at charter.net Mon Aug 29 16:54:36 2016 From: w9ae at charter.net (Wayne Estes) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 09:54:36 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] F-104 will be used to launch cubesats Message-ID: <3f12eeb8-e6ca-bb92-e912-fca7ff258677@charter.net> Interesting BBC article about the long troubled history of the F-104 Starfighter jet. Near the end, the article explains that a company in Florida plans to use the jet together with wing-mounted mini-rockets to launch Cubesats from the Stratosphere into low earth orbit. Unlike piggyback rides on a big rocket, the customer will be able to specify the orbit and launch date. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160826-the-1950s-jet-launching-tiny-satellites Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik From rgoldham at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 29 19:16:44 2016 From: rgoldham at sbcglobal.net (Ronald Oldham) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] N8RO Portable Operations References: <2069794545.1877873.1472498204834.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2069794545.1877873.1472498204834@mail.yahoo.com> Our road trip to western Canada was completed last week. We traveled over 5900 miles and were able to activate 30 grids. The grids included: EM03/04, EM08/09, EN00/01, EN03, EN05, DN97, DN88, DN89, DO60, DN49, DO40, DO21, DO00, CO90, CN78, CN88, CN97, DN07, DN17, DN27, DN26, DN37, DN45, DN76, DN75, DN73 and DN71. A total of 169 contacts were made on satellites SO-50, FO-29, AO-85 and XW-2C All contacts will be uploaded to LOTW within the next few days. All Canadian contacts will be uploaded using the call N8RO/VE5, 6 or 7. All other contacts will be uploaded using my call N8RO without any portable designation. If you would like a paper card please send a SASE. All paper cards will be mailed out over the next few weeks. After completing this road trip I have now activated a total of 122 unique grids during my portable operations. Many thanks for all of the contacts on this trip and the previous portable operations. 73, Ron - N8RO From on4cjq at telenet.be Mon Aug 29 20:21:07 2016 From: on4cjq at telenet.be (on4cjq at telenet.be) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:21:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Satellite QSOs now in Club Log In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <771470793.244986205.1472502067709.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Too bad i am not in the log. Listened as many passes i could on multiple sats last weekend, but only heart some other overseas stations...no CY9C. Pff. 73's, Jerry. ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Paul Stoetzer" Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org Verzonden: Maandag 29 augustus 2016 18:37:25 Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] CY9C Satellite QSOs now in Club Log The CY9C satellite QSOs seem to now be in Club Log, though there are some minor band/mode inconsistencies. http://www.clublog.org/charts/?c=CY9C 73, Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From AJ9N at aol.com Tue Aug 30 07:11:17 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 03:11:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-30 06:30 UTC Message-ID: <8d87.47b032f8.44f68b95@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-08-30 06:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR, direct via KF7TCG The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-09-03 18:21:03 UTC 42 deg Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence KS, direct via KC?NFL The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS (***) Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-09-09 16:25:42 UTC 56 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** Call for Proposals (***) Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016 The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) Program is seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations, individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew member on board the ISS. ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers of participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education plan. The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016. Proposal information and documents can be found at www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact. ******************* *********************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 117 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-08-30 06:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1081. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1046. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-24 02:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 47 on orbit Jeff Williams KD5TVQ Oleg Skripochka RN3FU Aleksey Ovchinin Exp. 48 on orbit Anatoly Ivanishin Kate Rubins KG5FYJ Takuya Onishi KF5LKS **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From k8bl at ameritech.net Tue Aug 30 14:43:39 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] "Fall" Grid Trip References: <744353992.2150520.1472568219055.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <744353992.2150520.1472568219055@mail.yahoo.com> SAT Grid Chasers, My annual Fall Grid Trip will be early this year due to?other upcoming personal plans. Between 9/5 and 9/11, I'll travel from Ohio north to Sault?St. Marie and make a loop through the following Grids: EN76/86/87/88/98/99/89/79/78/77 Operation will be on FO29, SO50 and AO7. ?I may check?out a couple XW's before I leave to see if I can work them. I usually go about 15 KHz up from center on Linear SATs. I'll be moving across a lot of territory, so some Grids may?only be operated ONCE. However, I HOPE to work as many?folks as possible that NEED these Grids. C U Soon, 73, ? ? ? Bob ?K8BL P.S. ?I have a low tolerance level for rude/inconsiderate operations? ? on Single-Channel SATs. If I encounter too much of it, I'll? ? just go QRT on them. From nss at mwt.net Tue Aug 30 15:08:48 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:08:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] "Fall" Grid Trip In-Reply-To: <744353992.2150520.1472568219055@mail.yahoo.com> References: <744353992.2150520.1472568219055.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <744353992.2150520.1472568219055@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3cca965f-0537-c785-50e5-f4baf3f03925@mwt.net> This posting got me to thinking. Is there a list of active stations? Say you are working on WAS or similar awards, and you need a certain state. is there a list anywhere of active stations you could E-Mail to set up possible schedules etc.? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/30/2016 9:43 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > SAT Grid Chasers, > My annual Fall Grid Trip will be early this year due to other upcoming personal plans. > Between 9/5 and 9/11, I'll travel from Ohio north to Sault St. Marie and make a loop through the following Grids: > EN76/86/87/88/98/99/89/79/78/77 > Operation will be on FO29, SO50 and AO7. I may check out a couple XW's before I leave to see if I can work them. > I usually go about 15 KHz up from center on Linear SATs. > I'll be moving across a lot of territory, so some Grids may only be operated ONCE. However, I HOPE to work as many folks as possible that NEED these Grids. > C U Soon, 73, Bob K8BL > P.S. I have a low tolerance level for rude/inconsiderate operations on Single-Channel SATs. If I encounter too much of it, I'll just go QRT on them. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Tue Aug 30 16:18:49 2016 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:18:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] "Fall" Grid Trip In-Reply-To: <3cca965f-0537-c785-50e5-f4baf3f03925@mwt.net> References: <744353992.2150520.1472568219055.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <744353992.2150520.1472568219055@mail.yahoo.com> <3cca965f-0537-c785-50e5-f4baf3f03925@mwt.net> Message-ID: <008f01d202da$31461bd0$93d25370$@net> > is there a list anywhere of active stations you could E-Mail to set up > possible schedules etc.? I can think of amsat-bb, AMSAT on Twitter, and the AMSAT-NA group on facebook. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Tue Aug 30 20:05:41 2016 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:05:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry Information PLEASE Message-ID: While awaiting "parts" to assemble my station, I am interested in the TELEMETRY reception from the birds. I was looking at the "Leader Board" for FOX-1A on Amsat.org. Looking at some of those stations posted there I noticed that FoxTerm 1.04f software listed, but no TNCs. Now I am confused. I believe that the FoxTerm software may decode received audio from the passes, but what about other satellites. Is a TNC needed, especially with the 9600 baud? I'm sorry, I am trying to figure out HOW to receive and decode the telemetry signals and just do not comprehend the procedures. The AMSAT website does not seem to supply that information, and neither does the "Getting Started 2016" book. If it is too much to answer here, please contact directly at my email: gp_ab5r at outlook.com 73, Jerry AB5R From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 30 20:12:17 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:12:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry Information PLEASE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The FoxTelem manual doesn't quite detail how to decode telemetry from AO-85 in a step-by-step fashion, but it does layout the various options. http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/foxtelem_manual_100a.pdf A TNC is not needed. You need either an FM receiver capable of supplying unfiltered audio (marketed as 9600 baud capable) or an SDR (like a FUNcube Dongle or SDRPlay). 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Gerald Payton wrote: > While awaiting "parts" to assemble my station, I am interested in the TELEMETRY reception from the birds. I was looking at the "Leader Board" for FOX-1A on Amsat.org. Looking at some of those stations posted there I noticed that FoxTerm 1.04f software listed, but no TNCs. Now I am confused. > > > I believe that the FoxTerm software may decode received audio from the passes, but what about other satellites. Is a TNC needed, especially with the 9600 baud? > > > I'm sorry, I am trying to figure out HOW to receive and decode the telemetry signals and just do not comprehend the procedures. The AMSAT website does not seem to supply that information, and neither does the "Getting Started 2016" book. > > > If it is too much to answer here, please contact directly at my email: gp_ab5r at outlook.com > > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k8tl at earthlink.net Tue Aug 30 20:19:45 2016 From: k8tl at earthlink.net (Tom Lubbers K8TL) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:19:45 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid AP65 Message-ID: <11113880.1472588385816.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> During the 2000z AO7 orbit this afternoon (8/30) a Got a report from GRID AP65. He finally got my call correct but I could never get his. Any one know who that was? From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Aug 30 20:23:35 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:23:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid AP65 In-Reply-To: <11113880.1472588385816.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11113880.1472588385816.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: AL7RS. Dan has been quite active again recently. I know he worked the CY9C DXpedition and has worked several Japanese stations lately as well. He'll respond to his QRZ email for sked requests. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Tom Lubbers K8TL wrote: > During the 2000z AO7 orbit this afternoon (8/30) a Got a report from GRID AP65. He finally got my call correct but I could never get his. Any one know who that was? > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Tue Aug 30 20:24:08 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:24:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry Information PLEASE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002001d202fc$76ea0cb0$64be2610$@GMAIL.COM> Jerry, FoxTelem, not FoxTerm, is specific to the Fox-1 series of satellites. It does not use a TNC. It uses DSP techniques, which are more flexible. The manual which is part of the download goes into the various ways to copy telemetry. You can get the latest version from amsat.org. You will need to scroll down a bit on the front page. There actually is a lot of information in "Getting Started 2016," but it is spread around under various satellites such as the ISS, AO-73, and AO-85. This will be corrected in the 2017 edition, where the basics will be gathered in one place. However, each satellite has its own characteristics, and often software, so you will still need to do some research.. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: Message-ID: <1875cb5b-241b-94a5-8923-002360387ac3@destevez.net> El 30/08/16 a las 22:05, Gerald Payton escribi?: > I believe that the FoxTerm software may decode received audio from > the passes, but what about other satellites. Is a TNC needed, > especially with the 9600 baud? Hi Gerald, These days you can do decode everything on the computer. No TNC is needed. Rough list of what's being transmitted out there and what programs you can use: * 1k2 AX.25 AFSK and 9k6 AX.25 FSK. This is like your regular packet radio. You can use UZ7HO soundmodem, direwolf, or many other software TNC programs. * Faster AX.25 FSK. 19k2 is common. Some of the 9k6 AX.25 software also supports this faster speeds. * 1k2 AX.25 BPSK. This is transmitted by the QB50p satellites and perhaps some others. You can use UZ7HO and warbler. * 9k6 AX.25 BPSK. Transmitted by 3CAT-2. There is an alpha version of UZ7HO and a GNUradio decoder in gr-satellites. Non-AX.25 satellites: * FUNcube and FUNcube-2, which transmit 1k2 BPSK with FEC. You have the FUNcube dashboard software. * LilacSat-2. Transmits: 9k6 BPSK with FEC, 4k8 GMSK with FEC and subaudio telemetry with FEC. There is a GNUradio decoder from Harbin Institute and a modified decoder by me: https://github.com/daniestevez/lilacsat * GOMX-3. Transmits 19k2 FSK with FEC. There is a GNUradio decoder in gr-satellites. * AAUSAT-4. Transmits 9k6 or 2k4 FSK with FEC. There is a GNUradio decoder in gr-satellites. * Some others I'm not so familiar with. We're trying to add support for more satellites in gr-satellites. Specially for those which are not supported by other software. I'm open for suggestions on which satellites you want to see decoded (for GOMX-1 and ?uSat we've tried but we lack the details about the telemetry format). Then, Mike DK3WN has a very complete set of programs to analyse the telemetry: http://www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml Also, take a look at his blog to see what one can achieve: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ About submitting telemetry online: AO-85 (and future foxes) telemetry goes to the amsat.org web. FUNcube telemetry goes to the FUNcube data warehouse. The rest of the satellites go to PE0SAT telemetry server: http://tlm.pe0sat.nl/ Also helpful, lists of frequencies, modes and satellites: http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/satellite/frequencies/ https://db.satnogs.org/ 73, Dani EA4GPZ. From scott23192 at gmail.com Tue Aug 30 20:33:06 2016 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:33:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry Information PLEASE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I see that you have already gotten some great replies, but it also sounds like you might be searching for orientation on satellite telemetry reception in general. Here is a page that I referred to often when I was getting started (not that I'm all that advanced NOW!) and besides this specific page, there is an endless amount of info on that site if you wish to scan the menu options across the top: http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/ -Scott, K4KDR Montpelier, VA USA ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Payton Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:05 PM To: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry Information PLEASE While awaiting "parts" to assemble my station, I am interested in the TELEMETRY reception from the birds. I was looking at the "Leader Board" for FOX-1A on Amsat.org. Looking at some of those stations posted there I noticed that FoxTerm 1.04f software listed, but no TNCs. Now I am confused. I believe that the FoxTerm software may decode received audio from the passes, but what about other satellites. Is a TNC needed, especially with the 9600 baud? I'm sorry, I am trying to figure out HOW to receive and decode the telemetry signals and just do not comprehend the procedures. The AMSAT website does not seem to supply that information, and neither does the "Getting Started 2016" book. If it is too much to answer here, please contact directly at my email: gp_ab5r at outlook.com 73, Jerry AB5R From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Tue Aug 30 21:39:41 2016 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:39:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid AP65 In-Reply-To: <11113880.1472588385816.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11113880.1472588385816.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <532DF84768B34A37B0620A0CB6C285D4@AA5PKPC> Dan, AL7RS -----Original Message----- From: Tom Lubbers K8TL Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:19 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid AP65 During the 2000z AO7 orbit this afternoon (8/30) a Got a report from GRID AP65. He finally got my call correct but I could never get his. Any one know who that was? From ai7rogerroger at gmail.com Tue Aug 30 22:47:54 2016 From: ai7rogerroger at gmail.com (Roger) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:47:54 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry Information PLEASE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would like to thank Jerry AB5R for asking the question. I've been confused about this very thing for a very long time. Equal thanks go to the responders who have posted some of the most enlightening information I've seen since I took an interest in the birds. There's just not enough time in the day for an old working man to do adequate research. Thank You. 73, Roger W7TZ CN83ia On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Scott wrote: > I see that you have already gotten some great replies, but it also sounds > like you might be searching for orientation on satellite telemetry > reception in general. > > Here is a page that I referred to often when I was getting started (not > that I'm all that advanced NOW!) and besides this specific page, there is > an endless amount of info on that site if you wish to scan the menu options > across the top: > > http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/ > > -Scott, K4KDR > Montpelier, VA USA > > > ====================================================== > > -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Payton > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:05 PM > To: Amsat BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Telemetry Information PLEASE > > While awaiting "parts" to assemble my station, I am interested in the > TELEMETRY reception from the birds. I was looking at the "Leader Board" > for FOX-1A on Amsat.org. Looking at some of those stations posted there I > noticed that FoxTerm 1.04f software listed, but no TNCs. Now I am confused. > > > I believe that the FoxTerm software may decode received audio from the > passes, but what about other satellites. Is a TNC needed, especially with > the 9600 baud? > > > I'm sorry, I am trying to figure out HOW to receive and decode the > telemetry signals and just do not comprehend the procedures. The AMSAT > website does not seem to supply that information, and neither does the > "Getting Started 2016" book. > > > If it is too much to answer here, please contact directly at my email: > gp_ab5r at outlook.com > > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From nss at mwt.net Wed Aug 31 13:46:07 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:46:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page Message-ID: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> This Page,,, http://www.amsat.org/status/ When you hover over a block, and the window appears it says Heard, and then a call, Now is the call, a call that was heard on the bird,,, or is it the station that simply heard the bird? Date is self explanatory, The UTC tho I'm not quite sure what it is telling me. anyone? Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Wed Aug 31 14:01:36 2016 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:01:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page In-Reply-To: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> References: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> Message-ID: <5F7E360F6E2448DB86E38D92BE8143D5@AA5PKPC> It's the call sign of the station reporting s/he heard the bird. Glenn AA5PK -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:46 AM To: AMSAT Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page This Page,,, http://www.amsat.org/status/ When you hover over a block, and the window appears it says Heard, and then a call, Now is the call, a call that was heard on the bird,,, or is it the station that simply heard the bird? Date is self explanatory, The UTC tho I'm not quite sure what it is telling me. anyone? Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 31 14:01:39 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:01:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page In-Reply-To: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> References: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> Message-ID: The call is the person making the report. The UTC listed is the 15 minute time period that the report is from. A blue "heard" means that both the uplink and downlink was active. A yellow "telemetry only" means only the downlink was active and the transponder was not active. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Joe wrote: > This Page,,, > > http://www.amsat.org/status/ > > When you hover over a block, and the window appears it says > > Heard, and then a call, Now is the call, a call that was heard on the > bird,,, or is it the station that simply heard the bird? > > Date is self explanatory, > > The UTC tho I'm not quite sure what it is telling me. anyone? > > Joe WB9SBD > > -- > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Wed Aug 31 14:08:50 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:08:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page In-Reply-To: References: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> Message-ID: So the time, as seen here, 13:00-:15 I'm assuming that it meant it was heard sometime between 13:00 & 13:15 correct? so if the station heard it at 13:35 the display would say 13:00-:30 or how is that working? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 8/31/2016 9:01 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > The call is the person making the report. The UTC listed is the 15 > minute time period that the report is from. > > A blue "heard" means that both the uplink and downlink was active. A > yellow "telemetry only" means only the downlink was active and the > transponder was not active. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Joe wrote: >> This Page,,, >> >> http://www.amsat.org/status/ >> >> When you hover over a block, and the window appears it says >> >> Heard, and then a call, Now is the call, a call that was heard on the >> bird,,, or is it the station that simply heard the bird? >> >> Date is self explanatory, >> >> The UTC tho I'm not quite sure what it is telling me. anyone? >> >> Joe WB9SBD >> >> -- >> Sig >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >> Idle Tyme >> Idle-Tyme.com >> http://www.idle-tyme.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Aug 31 14:17:27 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:17:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page In-Reply-To: References: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> Message-ID: If the station heard it at 13:35, they would select 13:30-13:45. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Joe wrote: > So the time, as seen here, > > 13:00-:15 I'm assuming that it meant it was heard sometime between 13:00 & > 13:15 correct? > > so if the station heard it at 13:35 the display would say 13:00-:30 or how > is that working? > > Joe WB9SBD > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > On 8/31/2016 9:01 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> >> The call is the person making the report. The UTC listed is the 15 >> minute time period that the report is from. >> >> A blue "heard" means that both the uplink and downlink was active. A >> yellow "telemetry only" means only the downlink was active and the >> transponder was not active. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Joe wrote: >>> >>> This Page,,, >>> >>> http://www.amsat.org/status/ >>> >>> When you hover over a block, and the window appears it says >>> >>> Heard, and then a call, Now is the call, a call that was heard on the >>> bird,,, or is it the station that simply heard the bird? >>> >>> Date is self explanatory, >>> >>> The UTC tho I'm not quite sure what it is telling me. anyone? >>> >>> Joe WB9SBD >>> >>> -- >>> Sig >>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >>> Idle Tyme >>> Idle-Tyme.com >>> http://www.idle-tyme.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mikesprenger at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 15:34:29 2016 From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:34:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page In-Reply-To: References: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> Message-ID: <33EDB3A7-0185-4521-8060-097B01E836C7@gmail.com> Thanks, Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > If the station heard it at 13:35, they would select 13:30-13:45. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Joe wrote: >> So the time, as seen here, >> >> 13:00-:15 I'm assuming that it meant it was heard sometime between 13:00 & >> 13:15 correct? >> >> so if the station heard it at 13:35 the display would say 13:00-:30 or how >> is that working? >> >> Joe WB9SBD >> Sig >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >> Idle Tyme >> Idle-Tyme.com >> http://www.idle-tyme.com >>> On 8/31/2016 9:01 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >>> >>> The call is the person making the report. The UTC listed is the 15 >>> minute time period that the report is from. >>> >>> A blue "heard" means that both the uplink and downlink was active. A >>> yellow "telemetry only" means only the downlink was active and the >>> transponder was not active. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Paul, N8HM >>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Joe wrote: >>>> >>>> This Page,,, >>>> >>>> http://www.amsat.org/status/ >>>> >>>> When you hover over a block, and the window appears it says >>>> >>>> Heard, and then a call, Now is the call, a call that was heard on the >>>> bird,,, or is it the station that simply heard the bird? >>>> >>>> Date is self explanatory, >>>> >>>> The UTC tho I'm not quite sure what it is telling me. anyone? >>>> >>>> Joe WB9SBD >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sig >>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >>>> Idle Tyme >>>> Idle-Tyme.com >>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions >>>> expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mikesprenger at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 15:34:29 2016 From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:34:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page In-Reply-To: References: <026a73e8-0a20-e3dc-dab0-d22eb76d310b@mwt.net> Message-ID: <33EDB3A7-0185-4521-8060-097B01E836C7@gmail.com> Thanks, Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > If the station heard it at 13:35, they would select 13:30-13:45. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > > >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Joe wrote: >> So the time, as seen here, >> >> 13:00-:15 I'm assuming that it meant it was heard sometime between 13:00 & >> 13:15 correct? >> >> so if the station heard it at 13:35 the display would say 13:00-:30 or how >> is that working? >> >> Joe WB9SBD >> Sig >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >> Idle Tyme >> Idle-Tyme.com >> http://www.idle-tyme.com >>> On 8/31/2016 9:01 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >>> >>> The call is the person making the report. The UTC listed is the 15 >>> minute time period that the report is from. >>> >>> A blue "heard" means that both the uplink and downlink was active. A >>> yellow "telemetry only" means only the downlink was active and the >>> transponder was not active. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Paul, N8HM >>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Joe wrote: >>>> >>>> This Page,,, >>>> >>>> http://www.amsat.org/status/ >>>> >>>> When you hover over a block, and the window appears it says >>>> >>>> Heard, and then a call, Now is the call, a call that was heard on the >>>> bird,,, or is it the station that simply heard the bird? >>>> >>>> Date is self explanatory, >>>> >>>> The UTC tho I'm not quite sure what it is telling me. anyone? >>>> >>>> Joe WB9SBD >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sig >>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock >>>> Idle Tyme >>>> Idle-Tyme.com >>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions >>>> expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nss at mwt.net Wed Aug 31 15:17:09 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:17:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Prediction / Tracking Programs. Message-ID: I have three prediction / tracking programs here. Simple Sat by W9KE HRD Sat Track and Orbitron. The simplesat and the HRD are perfect, and agree to the second even with each other. Orbitron on the other hand, is WAY off. Like 1/2 an orbit off. it says the tle's up date fine and clocks all say correct time. but the sat no matter what one I try is like 1/2 an orbit wrong. Also it does not have NO-84 listed. How do I get it to see that one too. Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com From dan at post.com Wed Aug 31 15:49:41 2016 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:49:41 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Prediction / Tracking Programs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found with Orbitron, the inbuilt TLE downloader did not work for me. The best source of TLE for Amateur Radio is amsat as it includes unusual and non listed anywhere else satellites. You can copy and paste the file here into notepad and then load it using the load button in Orbitron. Celes Trak and spacetrak do not have all amateur satellites. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all Also make sure your clock synchronisation is working by changing the computer clock and then correcting it. Compare passes to sites like heavens above. On 31/08/2016, Joe wrote: > I have three prediction / tracking programs here. > > Simple Sat by W9KE > HRD Sat Track > and > Orbitron. > > The simplesat and the HRD are perfect, and agree to the second even with > each other. > > Orbitron on the other hand, is WAY off. Like 1/2 an orbit off. > > it says the tle's up date fine and clocks all say correct time. but the > sat no matter what one I try is like 1/2 an orbit wrong. > > Also it does not have NO-84 listed. How do I get it to see that one too. > > Joe WB9SBD From pconver at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 15:50:24 2016 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:50:24 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Prediction / Tracking Programs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please try http://www.amsat.org.ar/pass.htm Appreciate know if it shows correct tracking for you. 73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Joe wrote: > I have three prediction / tracking programs here. > > Simple Sat by W9KE > HRD Sat Track > and > Orbitron. > > The simplesat and the HRD are perfect, and agree to the second even with > each other. > > Orbitron on the other hand, is WAY off. Like 1/2 an orbit off. > > it says the tle's up date fine and clocks all say correct time. but the sat > no matter what one I try is like 1/2 an orbit wrong. > > Also it does not have NO-84 listed. How do I get it to see that one too. > > Joe WB9SBD > -- > Sig > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Wed Aug 31 17:04:47 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:04:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats Message-ID: We just bought some high efficiency solar cells for our cubesat at $500 per watt. For what it is worth, that is 1600 times more expensive than home solar panels now down to 30 cents a watt. So I plotted it: http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/Cost-of-efficiency.png It is interesting that we hear so much about solar getting cheaper, but in fact, the high end only gets more expensive. That is why those people who say ?I?m waiting for higher efficiency? will never see it be cost effective. The space industry will always pay much,much more for just a factor of two increase, whereas the homeowner will only ever pay the cheapest. And cheap it is! Solar power is now cheaper than a custom glass window of the same size. The cost of the solar cells is only 10% of the typical home installation (recently seen as low as $2.70/watt contractor price in PA). Bob, WB4APR From plaws0 at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 17:19:29 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:19:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/Cost-of-efficiency.png > > > > It is interesting that we hear so much about solar getting cheaper, but in > fact, the high end only gets more expensive. That is why those people who > say ?I?m waiting for higher efficiency? will never see it be cost > effective. The space industry will always pay much,much more for just a > factor of two increase, whereas the homeowner will only ever pay the > cheapest. And cheap it is! > People "waiting" often can't do math and so don't understand how cheap it really is (even 10+ years ago!), but regardless, why is there no economy of scale at the space end? Is the efficiency just going up at the same time? If so, why isn't the price just staying the same while efficiency rises? The domestic PV is a completely different thing and now that our friends in China are pumping cells and modules by the million (billion?) the price just keeps dropping. I'm not "waiting for efficiency", I'm "waiting until my roof can be repaired" which means "waiting for money" which should mean "not buying that IC-910H" but did not. :-) -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From dougphelps at ameritech.net Wed Aug 31 18:22:04 2016 From: dougphelps at ameritech.net (dougphelps at ameritech.net) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1439790525.2977459.1472667724260@mail.yahoo.com> What is the efficiency of a $500 space solar panel versus the efficiency of a home solar panel? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: We just bought some high efficiency solar cells for our cubesat at $500 per watt. For what it is worth, that is 1600 times more expensive than home solar panels now down to 30 cents a watt.? So I plotted it: http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/Cost-of-efficiency.png It is interesting that we hear so much about solar getting cheaper, but in fact, the high end only gets more expensive.? That is why those people who say ?I?m waiting for higher efficiency? will never see it be cost effective.? The space industry will always pay much,much more for just a factor of two increase, whereas the homeowner will only ever pay the cheapest.? And cheap it is! Solar power is now cheaper than a custom glass window of the same size. The cost of the solar cells is only 10% of the typical home installation (recently seen as low as $2.70/watt contractor price in PA). Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From josepharmbruster at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 18:40:49 2016 From: josepharmbruster at gmail.com (Joseph Armbruster) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:40:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, Not sure if you can disclose or not but were the ones you purchased from Spectrolab? Joseph Armbruster On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > We just bought some high efficiency solar cells for our cubesat at $500 per > watt. > > > > For what it is worth, that is 1600 times more expensive than home solar > panels now down to 30 cents a watt. So I plotted it: > > http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/Cost-of-efficiency.png > > > > It is interesting that we hear so much about solar getting cheaper, but in > fact, the high end only gets more expensive. That is why those people who > say ?I?m waiting for higher efficiency? will never see it be cost > effective. The space industry will always pay much,much more for just a > factor of two increase, whereas the homeowner will only ever pay the > cheapest. And cheap it is! > > > > Solar power is now cheaper than a custom glass window of the same size. > The cost of the solar cells is only 10% of the typical home installation > (recently seen as low as $2.70/watt contractor price in PA). > > > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n0jy at amsat.org Wed Aug 31 18:42:40 2016 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:42:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats In-Reply-To: <1439790525.2977459.1472667724260@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1439790525.2977459.1472667724260@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7b758851-edb2-a573-3e9c-1b36806610ff@amsat.org> The ones we use on the Fox-1 satellites are 28.3%, BOL. I have no idea what a typical home solar panel can do. And I don't know if Bob has something newer and more efficient in his hands. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 8/31/2016 13:22, dougphelps at ameritech.net wrote: > What is the efficiency of a $500 space solar panel versus the efficiency of a home solar panel? > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: We just bought some high efficiency solar cells for our cubesat at $500 per > watt. > > > > For what it is worth, that is 1600 times more expensive than home solar > panels now down to 30 cents a watt. So I plotted it: > > http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/Cost-of-efficiency.png > > > > It is interesting that we hear so much about solar getting cheaper, but in > fact, the high end only gets more expensive. That is why those people who > say ?I?m waiting for higher efficiency? will never see it be cost > effective. The space industry will always pay much,much more for just a > factor of two increase, whereas the homeowner will only ever pay the > cheapest. And cheap it is! > > > > Solar power is now cheaper than a custom glass window of the same size. > The cost of the solar cells is only 10% of the typical home installation > (recently seen as low as $2.70/watt contractor price in PA). > > > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From scott23192 at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 19:20:27 2016 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 15:20:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Very Small-Scale Solar Power for Ham Use? Message-ID: <26B2B9A47171477A91A1D17815A96DB0@CSI9020> Greetings to everyone. This is only satellite-related in the most peripheral sense, but since much of our equipment requires electricity, I hope it?s a valid question. I?m normally very good with Google searches, but for some reason I?m coming up empty on this one. In the U.S. (and probably elsewhere), it?s common now to see highway signs and stand-alone telemetry installations installed with a small solar panel and a utility box that I assume protects a charge regulator and battery for night operations. I have an interest in duplicating this type of setup for experimental antenna installations that are too far from my house to conveniently run normal power, as well as for portable use. I don?t know if the installations that I see on the highway are turn-key setups (solar panel, charge controller, battery) or if they have been pieced together sized to fit the need. Naturally, the question of power requirements would affect the response from those of you who might be particularly knowledgeable about this kind of thing. I?m talking about the low end... just enough to power things like a wi-fi router, USB webcam, or perhaps a small notebook PC charger or Raspberry Pi... that kind of thing. At the high end, perhaps a small AZ-only TV rotator which would be a VERY intermittent draw. Anyway, if anyone is already providing for small power needs in this fashion, or is familiar with the installs that I see along the road, I sure would appreciate your input. Further, one would assume that it would be cheaper to DIY this... so recommendations for small outdoor solar/charger/battery discrete components would of course be helpful, too. Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR Montpelier, VA USA From bruninga at usna.edu Wed Aug 31 20:28:58 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:28:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Very Small-Scale Solar Power for Ham Use? In-Reply-To: <26B2B9A47171477A91A1D17815A96DB0@CSI9020> References: <26B2B9A47171477A91A1D17815A96DB0@CSI9020> Message-ID: <53534fc17234d1ab5fac64a09b341059@mail.gmail.com> It is very easy to design a stand-alone solar power system. Just add up the power requirements of your loads, taking into the account the duty cycles. Then multiply by 24 hours to come up with your daily AMP-hour requirement. Then get a battery that is probably 5 or more times that capacity (to live 5 days with bad weather and to minimize daily discharge). Then get a solar panel that can provide at least 8 times that Amp rating (because you can only assume about 4 solid sun hours a day (which has to provide 24 hours of power)) and this gives you a factor of 2 margin. Something like that anyway. Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:20 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Very Small-Scale Solar Power for Ham Use? Greetings to everyone. This is only satellite-related in the most peripheral sense, but since much of our equipment requires electricity, I hope it?s a valid question. I?m normally very good with Google searches, but for some reason I?m coming up empty on this one. In the U.S. (and probably elsewhere), it?s common now to see highway signs and stand-alone telemetry installations installed with a small solar panel and a utility box that I assume protects a charge regulator and battery for night operations. I have an interest in duplicating this type of setup for experimental antenna installations that are too far from my house to conveniently run normal power, as well as for portable use. I don?t know if the installations that I see on the highway are turn-key setups (solar panel, charge controller, battery) or if they have been pieced together sized to fit the need. Naturally, the question of power requirements would affect the response from those of you who might be particularly knowledgeable about this kind of thing. I?m talking about the low end... just enough to power things like a wi-fi router, USB webcam, or perhaps a small notebook PC charger or Raspberry Pi... that kind of thing. At the high end, perhaps a small AZ-only TV rotator which would be a VERY intermittent draw. Anyway, if anyone is already providing for small power needs in this fashion, or is familiar with the installs that I see along the road, I sure would appreciate your input. Further, one would assume that it would be cheaper to DIY this... so recommendations for small outdoor solar/charger/battery discrete components would of course be helpful, too. Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR Montpelier, VA USA _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Wed Aug 31 21:01:02 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:01:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats In-Reply-To: <1439790525.2977459.1472667724260@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1439790525.2977459.1472667724260@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6f12441bb39f7958c2a6048142436e54@mail.gmail.com> Follow the link. That is why I made the slide, so you can see the price, the efficiency and the change over time all in one slide? But It turns out the $500 cells are only 28% efficient, to get to 40% is only in the lab at the leading edge of solar research. So I just updated the chart. Bob *From:* dougphelps at ameritech.net [mailto:dougphelps at ameritech.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:22 PM *To:* Robert Bruninga; amsat-bb *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats What is the efficiency of a $500 space solar panel versus the efficiency of a home solar panel? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: We just bought some high efficiency solar cells for our cubesat at $500 per watt. For what it is worth, that is 1600 times more expensive than home solar panels now down to 30 cents a watt. So I plotted it: http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/Cost-of-efficiency.png It is interesting that we hear so much about solar getting cheaper, but in fact, the high end only gets more expensive. That is why those people who say ?I?m waiting for higher efficiency? will never see it be cost effective. The space industry will always pay much,much more for just a factor of two increase, whereas the homeowner will only ever pay the cheapest. And cheap it is! Solar power is now cheaper than a custom glass window of the same size. The cost of the solar cells is only 10% of the typical home installation (recently seen as low as $2.70/watt contractor price in PA). Bob, WB4APR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Wed Aug 31 21:14:52 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:14:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats(high end?) Message-ID: > ... why is there no economy of scale at the space end? Because every incremental improvement in efficiency for space cells becomes the new MUST-HAVE for the BIG satellite builder. All the big boys move on to the new cells for their billion dollar missions. Meanwhile last year's $500 cell has practically no market. The big guys always want the latest and greatest, but there is practicallyu zero market for last years best. Since everyone else except billion dollar satellites want the cheapest cells, and it it a long way down from $500/watt to 30 cents a watt. And there is no "large scale in space" compared to the billions of panels being sold for the new home solar and utility market). BUT, I did find out how those college solar cars are getting the higer efficiency cells. You CAN buy the same 28% cells for only $50/watt each (instead of $500) if you get them as cosmetic rejects, and without cover glass and without bypass diodes. This is a huge savings. But it is till 160 times more expensive than common solar. And you have to buy in bulk increments of $7500 (150 cells). Bob, WB4aPR -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Peter Laws Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 1:19 PM To: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/Cost-of-efficiency.png > > > > It is interesting that we hear so much about solar getting cheaper, > but in fact, the high end only gets more expensive. That is why those > people who say ?I?m waiting for higher efficiency? will never see it > be cost effective. The space industry will always pay much,much more > for just a factor of two increase, whereas the homeowner will only > ever pay the cheapest. And cheap it is! > People "waiting" often can't do math and so don't understand how cheap it really is (even 10+ years ago!), but regardless, why is there no economy of scale at the space end? Is the efficiency just going up at the same time? If so, why isn't the price just staying the same while efficiency rises? The domestic PV is a completely different thing and now that our friends in China are pumping cells and modules by the million (billion?) the price just keeps dropping. I'm not "waiting for efficiency", I'm "waiting until my roof can be repaired" which means "waiting for money" which should mean "not buying that IC-910H" but did not. :-) -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gp_ab5r at outlook.com Wed Aug 31 21:29:41 2016 From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 21:29:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios Message-ID: EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, what are the radios used for FIXED operations? I have my IC-2730, which I understand can be used, but wonder what other radio options are there out there. Are the older second-hand radios (hard to find) the answer? Any comments appreciated. 73, Jerry AB5R From zmetzing at pobox.com Wed Aug 31 21:47:50 2016 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:47:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4dd57703-560a-4056-8511-9f2cf1a7b3b9@pobox.com> On 08/31/16 16:29, Gerald Payton wrote: > EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, > what are the radios used for FIXED operations? I have my IC-2730, > which I understand can be used, but wonder what other radio options > are there out there. Are the older second-hand radios (hard to find) > the answer? (Warning: I'm biased -- I have mostly Icom equipment) I have both the IC-706MkIIG and the IC-746PRO, and they can be slaved via C-IV to your PC for Doppler tuning. The IC-9100 appears to be the current "boxed solution" for sat operation. I've also got a Funcube Dongle Pro+, which I use to record the entire passband in I/Q for later examination. Pretty handy! What I lack now are proper antennas! --- Zach N0ZGO From k7trkradio at charter.net Wed Aug 31 23:08:34 2016 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:08:34 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001a01d203dc$99b685d0$cd239170$@charter.net> KW TS-2000 Yaesu FT-847 IC-910 -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Payton Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:30 PM To: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, what are the radios used for FIXED operations? I have my IC-2730, which I understand can be used, but wonder what other radio options are there out there. Are the older second-hand radios (hard to find) the answer? Any comments appreciated. 73, Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kq6ea at verizon.net Wed Aug 31 23:40:29 2016 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 23:40:29 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios In-Reply-To: <001a01d203dc$99b685d0$cd239170$@charter.net> References: <001a01d203dc$99b685d0$cd239170$@charter.net> Message-ID: And for some *real* oldies, the Yeasu FT-736 and FT-726, as long as it has the satellite module installed, and the Kenwood TS-790. I have both the TS-790 and FT-847. I've never tried the 790 on satellites, but for terrestrial use, it has a better receiver (quieter) than the 847. I run my 847 under SatPC32 control, which I also use to control my rotors through a Fox Delta interface box. 73, Jim KQ6EA On 08/31/2016 11:08 PM, Ted wrote: > KW TS-2000 > Yaesu FT-847 > IC-910 > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald > Payton > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:30 PM > To: Amsat BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios > > EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, what are > the radios used for FIXED operations? I have my IC-2730, which I understand > can be used, but wonder what other radio options are there out there. Are > the older second-hand radios (hard to find) the answer? > > > Any comments appreciated. > > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From plaws0 at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 23:54:48 2016 From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:54:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios In-Reply-To: References: <001a01d203dc$99b685d0$cd239170$@charter.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote: > I've never tried the 790 on satellites I have, though not in this millennium. Worked great on AO-13. -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! From lafrieda at earthlink.net Wed Aug 31 23:56:49 2016 From: lafrieda at earthlink.net (James R. La Frieda) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:56:49 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jerry, Your IC-2730 can be used for satellites, and the same is true for those of us-who have been licensed for over 60 years and who are now in our mid to late 70's - who are still using - for satellites- some of the earlier ICOM multi-mode gear, such as the ICOM 211, ICOM 251A and ICOM 451A, which are frequently sold on E-Bay. e.g. for $100 -to - $200 : http://www.ebay.com/itm/ICOM-IC-451A-430-MHz-MULTI-MODE-FM-SSB-CW-TRANSCEIVER-/381751947130?hash=item58e2306f7a:g:bigAAOSwxg5Xw2Op And, some of us - who are in our late 70's- are still using the ancient dual band, dual receive HT that is known as the Yaesu FT-470 for satellites. In sum, it's wonderful to be able to work satellites with a Yaesu HT and ICOM multi-mode VHF/UHF transceivers that still work, even though they are over 40 years old. All the Best, 73, Jim (N6MV) On 8/31/2016 2:29 PM, Gerald Payton wrote: > EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, what are the radios used for FIXED operations? I have my IC-2730, which I understand can be used, but wonder what other radio options are there out there. Are the older second-hand radios (hard to find) the answer? > > > Any comments appreciated. > > > 73, > > Jerry AB5R > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From ai7rogerroger at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 20:59:09 2016 From: ai7rogerroger at gmail.com (Roger) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:59:09 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Very Small-Scale Solar Power for Ham Use? In-Reply-To: <53534fc17234d1ab5fac64a09b341059@mail.gmail.com> References: <26B2B9A47171477A91A1D17815A96DB0@CSI9020> <53534fc17234d1ab5fac64a09b341059@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What Bob said, or you can go to TESSCO website and I'm sure others and they have off the shelf solutions. 73, Roger W7TZ CN83ia On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > It is very easy to design a stand-alone solar power system. Just add up > the > power requirements of your loads, taking into the account the duty cycles. > Then multiply by 24 hours to come up with your daily AMP-hour requirement. > > Then get a battery that is probably 5 or more times that capacity (to live > 5 > days with bad weather and to minimize daily discharge). Then get a solar > panel that can provide at least 8 times that Amp rating (because you can > only assume about 4 solid sun hours a day (which has to provide 24 hours of > power)) and this gives you a factor of 2 margin. Something like that > anyway. > > Bob, WB4APR > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Scott > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:20 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Very Small-Scale Solar Power for Ham Use? > > > Greetings to everyone. > > This is only satellite-related in the most peripheral sense, but since much > of our equipment requires electricity, I hope it?s a valid question. > > I?m normally very good with Google searches, but for some reason I?m coming > up empty on this one. > > In the U.S. (and probably elsewhere), it?s common now to see highway signs > and stand-alone telemetry installations installed with a small solar panel > and a utility box that I assume protects a charge regulator and battery for > night operations. > > I have an interest in duplicating this type of setup for experimental > antenna installations that are too far from my house to conveniently run > normal power, as well as for portable use. > > I don?t know if the installations that I see on the highway are turn-key > setups (solar panel, charge controller, battery) or if they have been > pieced > together sized to fit the need. > > Naturally, the question of power requirements would affect the response > from > those of you who might be particularly knowledgeable about this kind of > thing. I?m talking about the low end... just enough to power things like a > wi-fi router, USB webcam, or perhaps a small notebook PC charger or > Raspberry Pi... that kind of thing. At the high end, perhaps a small > AZ-only TV rotator which would be a VERY intermittent draw. > > Anyway, if anyone is already providing for small power needs in this > fashion, or is familiar with the installs that I see along the road, I sure > would appreciate your input. > > Further, one would assume that it would be cheaper to DIY this... so > recommendations for small outdoor solar/charger/battery discrete components > would of course be helpful, too. > > Thanks! > > -Scott, K4KDR > Montpelier, VA USA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >