[amsat-bb] Help Please with Simplesat

[Thomas Doyle]

​Hi,

"Tom is on this list."

I have been a bit under the weather so have not been checking the list.
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"AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not
sure why he took it out."

As you know the maintenance of the AMSAT keps has been a bit hit and miss
over time. Even when satellites had "crashed" they were often still on the
list. The CelesTrak list had been much more reliable and up to date over
the long run.
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" With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of
similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite
tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option.
Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include
satellites launched on classified missions."

You might also want to set and enforce standards for handling the upcoming
problem with the fundamental nature of TLE data structure. I am sure you
know that line 1 column 19 and 20 define the epoch year. This leaves only
two digits for the year. The temporary fix they have put in will have an
interesting problem in the future. Many tracking programs are also "locked"
into the current standard and will most likely have problems when the magic
date rolls around. I am sure you know the magic date is actually not that
far away (as you know it is not 3000). Perhaps some sort of check list and
enforcement team could be set up to keep the developers in line.
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73 W9KE Tom Doyle



On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> Tom is on this list.
>
> Edit the SatLookDown1_28\SimpleSatData\SatData\WebDataSources.txt file
> and add the following line:
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, AMSAT.txt
>
> Then restart the program and click web update. AMSAT keps should then
> be available for selection.
>
> AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not
> sure why he took it out. With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of
> similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite
> tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option.
> Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include
> satellites launched on classified missions.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> > This program seems really interesting, but I can not get it to load all
> the
> > birds,
> >
> > http://www.tomdoyle.org/SimpleSatLookDown/SimpleSatLookDown.html
> >
> > Like NO-84 etc.
> >
> > I find it amazing that a person that makes a program, has zero way to
> > contact the person. Granted it IS a free program so I can't complain,
> it is
> > just UG all I can see is the Celestrak info and that list does not
> include
> > NO-84
> >
> > Anyone Help?
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
> > --
> > Sig
> > The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> > Idle Tyme
> > Idle-Tyme.com
> > http://www.idle-tyme.com
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