From electricity440 at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 01:03:53 2016 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:03:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour Message-ID: This is a reminder that the Colorado Amateur Satellite net will begin in 1 hour from now (7PM mountain time Thursday). 6PM Pacific 7PM Mountain 8PM Central 9PM Eastern Please visit us on *AMSATNET.INFO * *IRLP* 9870, the Denver Reflector *ALLSTAR LINK* 40764, direct hookup to the repeater here. 41715, KC9ZHV hub at a data center if I am out of bandwidth. More info on AllStar - amsatnet.info/#node *ECHOLINK* *AMSAT* unless there is an ARISS contact, then go direct to KD0WHB-L *LOCAL RF* 449.625 (-) 141.3 ( W?KU Lookout Mountain) 447.225 (-) 141.3 (The STEM school repeater we set up) 447.850 (-) 141.3 (AC?KQ's repeater where he lives on TOP of saddleback mountain) 147.450 SIMPLEX (Aurora, CO) 446.275 (-) 100.0 Galena St. Local repeater at my house, giving a whopping 5 blocks of great coverage *REMOTE RF* Your Repeater here!, Email me if you want to link in or me to link your echolink or allstar repeater in automatically (no automatic IRLP linking supported) Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com From electricity440 at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 01:03:57 2016 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:03:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour Message-ID: NOTE, THE NET HAS BEEN DELAYED BY 15 MINUTES TODAY DECEMBER 24. Happy holidays. This is a reminder that the Colorado Amateur Satellite net will begin in 1 hour from now (7PM mountain time Thursday). 6PM Pacific 7PM Mountain 8PM Central 9PM Eastern Please visit us on *AMSATNET.INFO * *IRLP* 9870, the Denver Reflector *ALLSTAR LINK* 40764, direct hookup to the repeater here. 41715, KC9ZHV hub at a data center if I am out of bandwidth. More info on AllStar - amsatnet.info/#node *ECHOLINK* *AMSAT* unless there is an ARISS contact, then go direct to KD0WHB-L *LOCAL RF* 449.625 (-) 141.3 ( W?KU Lookout Mountain) 447.225 (-) 141.3 (The STEM school repeater we set up) 447.850 (-) 141.3 (AC?KQ's repeater where he lives on TOP of saddleback mountain) 147.450 SIMPLEX (Aurora, CO) 446.275 (-) 100.0 Galena St. Local repeater at my house, giving a whopping 5 blocks of great coverage *REMOTE RF* Your Repeater here!, Email me if you want to link in or me to link your echolink or allstar repeater in automatically (no automatic IRLP linking supported) Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com From wmy at isac.gov.in Fri Jan 1 08:46:51 2016 From: wmy at isac.gov.in (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 14:16:51 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] New Year Greetings Message-ID: <20160101084131.AEAE980A1@lansing182.amsat.org> Warm wishes and greetings to all and to their family members for a 'Very Happy New Year 2016'. 73 de Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS] Secretary & Station-In-Charge Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC ISRO Satellite Centre HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017. Phone:(Office)91-80-25082598/25082054/25082192 Mobile:? 91-9880 341 456 E-mail ID: wmy at isac.gov.in ? ? ? ? ? ?vu2wmy_mani at yahoo.com ? ? ? ? ? ?isrohams at yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 12:30:52 2016 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 07:30:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy New Year Message-ID: I think 2016 will be a great year for AMSAT organizations around the world and for AMSAT-NA, it will be a major turn around year with multiple spacecraft to be launched and multiple I preparation or under consideration. I'm very happy to be active again with my AMSAT friends and around the world. The slow evaporation of the damage done by ITAR is readily apparent I our various circles doing technical work. It is exciting. HNY and 73s Bob N4HY -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Dir. Research: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 12:37:40 2016 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 07:37:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tiny keyboards coupled with spell correct. I'm tempted to conduct a study on the ACTUAL measured improvement in spelling in the whole system. I find the combination to be just plain embarrassing. On Friday, January 1, 2016, Robert McGwier wrote: > I think 2016 will be a great year for AMSAT organizations around the > world and for AMSAT-NA, it will be a major turn around year with multiple > spacecraft to be launched and multiple I preparation or under consideration. > > I'm very happy to be active again with my AMSAT friends and around the > world. The slow evaporation of the damage done by ITAR is readily apparent > I our various circles doing technical work. > > It is exciting. > > HNY and 73s > Bob > N4HY > > > > -- > Bob McGwier > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc > Research Professor Virginia Tech > Dir. Research: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and > Technology > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) > Director of AMSAT > > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Dir. Research: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT From n2wwd at mindspring.com Fri Jan 1 12:44:04 2016 From: n2wwd at mindspring.com (Ken Ernandes) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 07:44:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1451652244.3470.3.camel@Antares.orbitessera> My guess is many (my self included) share your level of annoyance with this "feature," especially when we don't see the correction until after the message is sent. The study would naturally need to count as spelling errors, words that are spelled correctly, but not what was intended by the sender. 73, Ken N2WWD On Fri, 2016-01-01 at 07:37 -0500, Robert McGwier wrote: > Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tiny keyboards coupled > with spell correct. I'm tempted to conduct a study on the ACTUAL measured > improvement in spelling in the whole system. I find the combination to be > just plain embarrassing. > > On Friday, January 1, 2016, Robert McGwier wrote: > > > I think 2016 will be a great year for AMSAT organizations around the > > world and for AMSAT-NA, it will be a major turn around year with multiple > > spacecraft to be launched and multiple I preparation or under consideration. > > > > I'm very happy to be active again with my AMSAT friends and around the > > world. The slow evaporation of the damage done by ITAR is readily apparent > > I our various circles doing technical work. > > > > It is exciting. > > > > HNY and 73s > > Bob > > N4HY > > > > > > > > -- > > Bob McGwier > > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc > > Research Professor Virginia Tech > > Dir. Research: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and > > Technology > > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) > > Director of AMSAT > > > > > From kb2m at arrl.net Fri Jan 1 12:49:06 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (kb2m at arrl.net) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 07:49:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03d601d14492$cd594a30$680bde90$@net> Happy New Year Bob, Don't worry about the spelling errors, it's a way of life for us old guys with old eyes who don't spot the errors until after we send the message :-) 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert McGwier Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 7:38 AM To: amsat bb Cc: BOD at amsat. org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Happy New Year Does anyone else have a love hate relationship with tiny keyboards coupled with spell correct. I'm tempted to conduct a study on the ACTUAL measured improvement in spelling in the whole system. I find the combination to be just plain embarrassing. On Friday, January 1, 2016, Robert McGwier wrote: > I think 2016 will be a great year for AMSAT organizations around the > world and for AMSAT-NA, it will be a major turn around year with > multiple spacecraft to be launched and multiple I preparation or under consideration. > > I'm very happy to be active again with my AMSAT friends and around the > world. The slow evaporation of the damage done by ITAR is readily > apparent I our various circles doing technical work. > > It is exciting. > > HNY and 73s > Bob > N4HY > > > > -- > Bob McGwier > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor > Virginia Tech Dir. Research: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for > National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: > N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. > (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT From kris.38 at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 13:13:24 2016 From: kris.38 at gmail.com (Kris Murthy) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 18:43:24 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] [amsatindia] New Year Greetings In-Reply-To: <56863bbd.62c7420a.77f3e.ffff88deSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <56863bbd.62c7420a.77f3e.ffff88deSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thank you for the warm words of greetings! I take pleasure sending in my New Year Greetings to everyone in the Group, Wish you all a very happy, prosperous, new year, 2016, studded with success, good health and very good activities in the world of Ham Radio! Raj/ VU2RAJ On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 2:16 PM, 'Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]' wmy at isac.gov.in [amsatindia] wrote: > > > Warm wishes and greetings to all and to their family members for a 'Very > Happy New Year 2016'. > > 73 de > > Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS] > Secretary & Station-In-Charge > Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC > ISRO Satellite Centre > HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017. > Phone:(Office)91-80-25082598/25082054/25082192 > Mobile: 91-9880 341 456 > E-mail ID: wmy at isac.gov.in > vu2wmy_mani at yahoo.com > isrohams at yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original > message. > ------------------------------ > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > > ? Reply to sender > ? Reply to group > ? Start > a New Topic > > ? Messages in this topic > > (25) > Visit Your Group > > > > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > > ? Privacy ? > Unsubscribe > ? Terms of Use > > . > > __,_._,___ > From kbala at isac.gov.in Fri Jan 1 09:12:43 2016 From: kbala at isac.gov.in (Balaji VU3PZA) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 14:42:43 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] [amsatindia] New Year Greetings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160101091340.973E28087@lansing182.amsat.org> OM! Wish you very happy and prosperous new year 2016. with regards Balaji (vu3pza) 73 de Balaji (VU3PZA) Managing Committee Member Upargrah Amateur Radio Club(VU2URC) ISRO Satellite Centre, HAL Airport Road Bangalore - 560 017, India. Phone:(O)91-80-2508 2404, (R)91-80-2522 0810 ? ? ? (M)91-94807 05796 (6pm-8am) Fax:? ? ?91-80-2508 2406 E-mail ID: vu3pza at gmail.com, kbala at isac.gov.in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From kchandru at isac.gov.in Fri Jan 1 09:36:52 2016 From: kchandru at isac.gov.in (K.CHANDRASEKHARAM) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 15:06:52 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] New Year Greetings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160101093339.F185C8203@lansing182.amsat.org> Dear Friends, I wish you and your family members a very happy new year 2016. with regards, K.Chandrasekharam Quoting "'Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]' wmy at isac.gov.in [isrohams]" : > ? > ? > > Warm wishes and greetings to all and to their family members for a > 'Very Happy New Year 2016'. > > 73 de > ? > Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS] > Secretary & Station-In-Charge > Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC > ISRO Satellite Centre > HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017. > Phone:(Office)91-80-25082598/25082054/25082192 > Mobile:? 91-9880 341 456 > E-mail ID: wmy at isac.gov.in > ? ? ? ? ? ?vu2wmy_mani at yahoo.com > ? ? ? ? ? ?isrohams at yahoo.com > > ? > > ------------------------- > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > > ------------------------- > > __._,_.___ > ? > > ------------------------- > Posted by: "Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]" > ------------------------- > > ? > > > Reply via web post[1] ? Reply to sender [2] ? > Reply to group [3] ? Start a New Topic[4] > ? Messages in this topic[5] (18) > > ONE WORLD ONE LANGUAGE - ISRO HAMS > ---------------------------------- > To subscribe for this group, send an email to > isrohams-subscribe at yahoogroups.com > Visit Your Group[6] > > > [7] ? Privacy[8] ? Unsubscribe[9] ? Terms of Use[10] > > ? > > . > > __,_._,___ Links: ------ [1] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/messages/1765;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbDZqMzc0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRtc2dJZAMxNzY1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTYzNzY5MQ--?act=reply&messageNum=1765 [2] mailto:wmy at isac.gov.in?subject=Re%3A%20New%20Year%20Greetings [3] mailto:isrohams at yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20New%20Year%20Greetings [4] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMjh1a2U4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0NTE2Mzc2OTE- [5] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/topics/351;_ylc=X3oDMTM0ZWRtaHFsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRtc2dJZAMxNzY1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTYzNzY5MQR0cGNJZAMzNTE- [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMTZqMHFjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NTE2Mzc2OTE- [7] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbzZvOHNyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTYzNzY5MQ-- [8] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [9] mailto:isrohams-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe [10] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From vmk at isac.gov.in Fri Jan 1 09:30:41 2016 From: vmk at isac.gov.in (V.MURALI KRISHNA) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 15:00:41 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] [isrohams] Re: [amsatindia] New Year Greetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160101093352.DBA3880BF@lansing182.amsat.org> Dear All, Thanks for the wishes. I also Wish you all a very happy and prosperous new year. With Warm Regards V.Murali Krishna. Quoting "Balaji VU3PZA kbala at isac.gov.in [isrohams]" : > ? > ? > > OM! > Wish you very happy and prosperous new year 2016. > with regards > Balaji (vu3pza) > 73 de > Balaji (VU3PZA) > Managing Committee Member > Upargrah Amateur Radio Club(VU2URC) > ISRO Satellite Centre, HAL Airport Road > Bangalore - 560 017, India. > Phone:(O)91-80-2508 2404, (R)91-80-2522 0810 > ? ? ? (M)91-94807 05796 (6pm-8am) > Fax:? ? ?91-80-2508 2406 > E-mail ID: vu3pza at gmail.com, kbala at isac.gov.in > > ? > > ------------------------- > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > > ------------------------- > > __._,_.___ > ? > > ------------------------- > Posted by: Balaji VU3PZA > ------------------------- > > ? > > > Reply via web post[1] ? Reply to sender [2] ? > Reply to group [3] ? Start a New Topic[4] > ? Messages in this topic[5] (1) > > ONE WORLD ONE LANGUAGE - ISRO HAMS > ---------------------------------- > To subscribe for this group, send an email to > isrohams-subscribe at yahoogroups.com > Visit Your Group[6] > > > [7] ? Privacy[8] ? Unsubscribe[9] ? Terms of Use[10] > > ? > > . > > __,_._,___ Links: ------ [1] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/messages/1768;_ylc=X3oDMTJxamw3aGpiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRtc2dJZAMxNzY4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTYzOTI0MQ--?act=reply&messageNum=1768 [2] mailto:kbala at isac.gov.in?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bamsatindia%5D%20New%20Year%20Greetings [3] mailto:isrohams at yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bamsatindia%5D%20New%20Year%20Greetings [4] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaGxqb25rBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0NTE2MzkyNDE- [5] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/topics/1768;_ylc=X3oDMTM1bzRuZmZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRtc2dJZAMxNzY4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTYzOTI0MQR0cGNJZAMxNzY4 [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmODI5bGtlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NTE2MzkyNDE- [7] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcGFkbWthBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTYzOTI0MQ-- [8] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [9] mailto:isrohams-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe [10] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ V MURALI KRISHNA SCI/ENGR-SE;PFF/IFF/MFF ISRO SATELLITE CENTRE HAL AIRPORT ROAD BANGALORE - 560 017. INDIA. EMAIL: vmk at isac.gov.in Phone: ? ? ? Office:? ? ? ? +91-80-25083023 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?+91-80-25083028 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From wouterweg at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 13:37:44 2016 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 14:37:44 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) In-Reply-To: References: <4f75c60ffd4528106027b2afa7818fc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Its indeed Yield, but also the fact that there is far less GaAs fabs around the world, and even less with their process controls good enough to make the required (almost defect free) wafers for triple junction GaAs cells of a substantial size. This is also why you see smaller cells being used in space (smaller wafer size) instead of the big size wafers in Si technology. Also, who cares about process variation in Si as long as the total panel assembly meets the spec. In space, that 1% extra efficiency can make the difference on your power budget. Hopefully including your margins ;) Most terrestrial cells have lots of defects in them that are not a problem. On a sidenote: even the premium space cells are not completely defect free, but for high profile missions, usually hand selected batches are combined into panels and the "scrap" cells can be re-used on other missions or resold as grade B. This process can be done by either the cell manufacturer or the panel assembler, depending on the mission. Each cell is certified by the manufacturer for performances including possible defects. Interestingly, on the Triple junction GaAs cells I have been working with, a defect will lead to that spot in the panel acting as a LED ;) Wouter PA3WEG On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Nelson < steve.motorola.uranium at gmail.com> wrote: > I think it has to do with the starting material and test specifications.... > Si is cheap, and can tolerate most VLSI manufacturing processes. GaAs is > very brittle and has a "bad attitude" during manufacturing to put it > lightly. > > My guess, the extra cost comes from Process Yield, and strict Final Test > requirements to meet the reliability specs. > > Stephen N. > KD6VEX > > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Robert Bruninga > wrote: > > > Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and for your > > house: > > > > http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png > > > > > > > > The 10,000 Watt array for your house costs less than a 10 W array for a > > cubesat satellite. > > > > > > > > I get tired of the excuse, ?Im waiting for higher efficiency cells? when > > the cost of just doubling the efficiency from 15% to 30% is a factor of > > 1000 times more expensive. You?ll be dead before the expensive ones even > > come down by half (much less the 1000 to 1 needed to make them > practical). > > > > > > > > And in fact it will never ever happen. Because a satellite builder will > > pay a measly $10,000 to DOUBLE the power of his 4 inch satellite and so > the > > market for the highest efficiency cells will always get a premium price > > because the satellite buyers will always pay max dollars for max power > > independent of cost. > > > > > > > > And there will never be a decaying cost or learning curve, because as > soon > > as someone comes up with a 32% solar cell, then the 30% technology is > > ABANDONED because the space industry will all move to the 32% cells and > be > > happy to pay even more for the higher power and there is practically no > > market for last year?s 30% cells that cost 1000 times more than existing > > silicon cells at 15%. And without a growing market for last year?s HIGH > > efficiency cells, there will never be a learning curve and declining > cost. > > > > > > > > Meanwhile the cheap 15% cells being mass produced for the terrestrial > solar > > market in a MILLION times the volume at 1/1000 the cost already cost less > > than a window of the same size! Witness the cost reduction of 10 to 1 in > > the last 10 years and the 2 to 1 reduction in the last 3 years with > > improvements from 15% efficiency up to around 18% not by changing the > > technology of the 60 year old simple silicon, but just optimizing the > > manufacturing process (by the billions)? > > > > > > > > Solar is here, Now. And it won?t get any cheaper, because as the market > > expands exponentially the demand for bazillions of watts of solar will > soak > > up every panel produced and homeowners are then competing with massive > > utility scale purchases of millions of panels. Solar panels now cost > less > > than just a window of the same size. It is no longer the cost of the > > panels, it is simply the cost of labor that drives the majority of cost > > now. You can buy solar panels for under $0.70 a watt but to have a > > contractor installed system is hovering around $3.50 per watt and not > going > > down much at all. > > > > > > > > Lastly, if you have sun, you KNOW eventually you will be going solar. So > > once you realize that, you should also realize that every electric bill > you > > pay from now on is just throwing money away which would have been better > > invested in free electricity and 10% annual return for life on your roof > or > > in your yard. > > > > > > > > Waiting gains nothing. Even the solar panels I bought 4 years ago at > twice > > the price have already paid for themselves. Waiting would have gained > > nothing except 4 years of more wasted money to the utility and so many > tons > > of burned coal wasted into the air. Here are some more thoughts? > > > > > > > > http://aprs.org/solar-now.html > > > > > > > > Summary, Solar and Satellites? the same but 1000 times cheaper on Earth. > > > > > > > > Bob, Wb4APR > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > -- > Stephen Nelson > ??????? > ?????????? > KD6VEX > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From marklhammond at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 15:47:13 2016 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 10:47:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Bod] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0fnD1s0085LoKnP01fnDgU@gmail.com> Happy New Year, Dr. Bob! Glad to have you back in the fold. Yes, 2017 stands to be a wonderful year! 73, Mark N8MH At 07:30 AM 1/1/2016 -0500, Robert McGwier wrote: >I think 2016 will be a great year for AMSAT ? organizations around the world and for AMSAT-NA, it will be a major turn around year with multiple spacecraft to be launched and multiple I preparation or under consideration. > >I'm very happy to be active again with my AMSAT friends and around the world.? The slow evaporation of the damage done by ITAR is readily apparent I our various circles doing technical work. > >It is exciting. > >HNY and 73s >Bob >N4HY > > > >-- >Bob McGwier >Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc >Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc >Research Professor Virginia Tech >Dir. Research: ? The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology >Senior Member IEEE,? Facebook: N4HYBob,? ARS: N4HY >Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) >Director of AMSAT > >_______________________________________________ >Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA >http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod From jean-claude.aveni at wanadoo.fr Fri Jan 1 16:11:50 2016 From: jean-claude.aveni at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Claude Aveni) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 17:11:50 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Bod] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <0fnD1s0085LoKnP01fnDgU@gmail.com> References: <0fnD1s0085LoKnP01fnDgU@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5686A546.1030906@wanadoo.fr> Happy New Year OM ; from Corsica island, TK5GH Jean-Claude. 73 QRO Le 01/01/2016 16:47, Mark L. Hammond a ?crit : > Happy New Year, Dr. Bob! Glad to have you back in the fold. Yes, 2017 stands to be a wonderful year! > > 73, > > Mark N8MH > > At 07:30 AM 1/1/2016 -0500, Robert McGwier wrote: >> I think 2016 will be a great year for AMSAT ? organizations around the world and for AMSAT-NA, it will be a major turn around year with multiple spacecraft to be launched and multiple I preparation or under consideration. >> >> I'm very happy to be active again with my AMSAT friends and around the world.? The slow evaporation of the damage done by ITAR is readily apparent I our various circles doing technical work. >> >> It is exciting. >> >> HNY and 73s >> Bob >> N4HY >> >> >> >> -- >> Bob McGwier >> Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc >> Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc >> Research Professor Virginia Tech >> Dir. Research: ? The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology >> Senior Member IEEE,? Facebook: N4HYBob,? ARS: N4HY >> Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) >> Director of AMSAT >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- Jean-Claude Aveni site web : http://astro-notes.org Blog : http://astro-notes.over-blog.fr HAM : TK5GH (indicatif radio amateur) Courriel : jean-claude.aveni at wanadoo.fr From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Jan 1 16:21:27 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 11:21:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal Message-ID: > If the project is not operating by now, it'll cost 30% more after midnight. No. The 30% federal tax incentive was to end by the end of 2016, not the beginning. AND does'nt matter anyway, since the do-nothing congress actually included an extenaion in the spending bill. > Putting solar on an asphalt roof ... is a bad idea. Not a place to screw up. Use a reputable contractor with guarantee. They know how to do it right. > 42 panels 50 lbs per (for 11 kW system)... > Remember statics and dynamics?? > ... bracing rafters in a crawlspace is a mug's game. > In Florida in summer? Fatal. 50 lbs per panel over 18 sqft is only a load of 2.8 lbs per square foot and is insignificant compared to the required building code roof design figure of typically 30 psf. (Though in Florida the snow load is considered 0). The good news elsewhere is that solar panels melt snow far faster than a normal roof, so there is no multiday buildup and icing load... > Today as of 3pm EDT the system produced 23 kWh. > Best day so far was 100% FL sunshine and a COLD day: 82 kWh. Congratulations, sounds like you did it anyway... > HF RFI? Undetectable. Thanks, that is great news! > I got the last (3) 3.8kW transformer based inverters in stock. > SMA makes nice gear. Cadwelds, IMC 3/4" conduit. I was totally shocked when I ordered an SMA inverter to add to my other three XANTREX ones which only weighted 25 lbs. The SMA was so heavy I had to invite my son to dinner just to get help getting it from the porch to inside the house! Then had to feed him again a week later to help lift it into place. I think it is over 100 lbs? And compared to the XANTREX, there were may nitpicks I did not like about the SMA at all. But then of course, XANTREX doesn't make grid-tie inverters any more and SMA does seem to have very good reviews. On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob wrote: > > Sort of off the AMSAT topic, but the most recent estimate is that about > 20 > > gigawatts of solar will be added in 2016 -- almost doubling the total > > installed capacity of US solar power. This is being primarily driven by > > residential installations. Utility-scale installations are actually down > > 5%. > > > > One thing that was keeping mass market efficiency down was a glut of > > production capability that existed through 2014. Manufactures were not > > keen on investing in new processes at the same time they were going out > of > > business or consolidating. That glut has been drying up, prompting Elon > > Musk's to build a $1 billion dollar factory in Buffalo NY which will > > produce 1 GW of panels annually by the end of 2016. Those panels are > > expected to be 22.1% efficient. That's a pretty impressive gain in > > efficiency. > > > > Often times market conditions, not technology, dictates what reaches the > > mass market, and that has most certainly been the case in the solar > > industry. That 50% increase in panel efficiency doesn't necessarily mean > > that the cost per watt will be reduced in the short term -- those panels > > may simply sell for 50% more. > > > > 73, Bob, WB4SON > > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: > > > >> Good point Bob but include the real estate cost in to the equation and > >> they improve. > >> nick > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: AMSAT-BB [On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM > >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) > >> > >> Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and for > your > >> house: > >> > >> http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png > >> > From burns at fisher.cc Fri Jan 1 16:36:27 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 11:36:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I guess there are a lot of folks interested in this even though it is only peripherally related to satellites...I hope there are not too many objections. But I wanted to ask if anyone has heard this rumor: After a certain number of solar connections, power companies will no longer be required to do net metering. I don't know whether a) they would just not allow any more new installations with backfeed at all or b) for new installations they would only pay wholesale, or c) somehow they average retail and wholesale prices for everyone who is backfeeding. I can surely understand why a power company would WANT to do that. They are usually getting power that they have to pay extra for at a time when they need it less. But it certainly reduces some of the financial incentive to install, if true. Anyone know more? It would probably differ by state... 73, Burns W2BFJ On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > > If the project is not operating by now, it'll cost 30% more after > midnight. > > No. The 30% federal tax incentive was to end by the end of 2016, not the > beginning. AND does'nt matter anyway, since the do-nothing congress > actually included an extenaion in the spending bill. > > > Putting solar on an asphalt roof ... is a bad idea. Not a place to screw > up. > > Use a reputable contractor with guarantee. They know how to do it right. > > > 42 panels 50 lbs per (for 11 kW system)... > > Remember statics and dynamics?? > > ... bracing rafters in a crawlspace is a mug's game. > > In Florida in summer? Fatal. > > 50 lbs per panel over 18 sqft is only a load of 2.8 lbs per square foot > and is insignificant compared to the required building code roof design > figure of typically 30 psf. (Though in Florida the snow load is considered > 0). The good news elsewhere is that solar panels melt snow far faster than > a normal roof, so there is no multiday buildup and icing load... > > > Today as of 3pm EDT the system produced 23 kWh. > > Best day so far was 100% FL sunshine and a COLD day: 82 kWh. > > Congratulations, sounds like you did it anyway... > > > HF RFI? Undetectable. > > Thanks, that is great news! > > > I got the last (3) 3.8kW transformer based inverters in stock. > > SMA makes nice gear. Cadwelds, IMC 3/4" conduit. > > I was totally shocked when I ordered an SMA inverter to add to my other > three XANTREX ones which only weighted 25 lbs. The SMA was so heavy I had > to invite my son to dinner just to get help getting it from the porch to > inside the house! Then had to feed him again a week later to help lift it > into place. I think it is over 100 lbs? And compared to the XANTREX, there > were may nitpicks I did not like about the SMA at all. > > But then of course, XANTREX doesn't make grid-tie inverters any more and > SMA does seem to have very good reviews. > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob wrote: > > > > Sort of off the AMSAT topic, but the most recent estimate is that about > > 20 > > > gigawatts of solar will be added in 2016 -- almost doubling the total > > > installed capacity of US solar power. This is being primarily driven > by > > > residential installations. Utility-scale installations are actually > down > > > 5%. > > > > > > One thing that was keeping mass market efficiency down was a glut of > > > production capability that existed through 2014. Manufactures were not > > > keen on investing in new processes at the same time they were going out > > of > > > business or consolidating. That glut has been drying up, prompting > Elon > > > Musk's to build a $1 billion dollar factory in Buffalo NY which will > > > produce 1 GW of panels annually by the end of 2016. Those panels are > > > expected to be 22.1% efficient. That's a pretty impressive gain in > > > efficiency. > > > > > > Often times market conditions, not technology, dictates what reaches > the > > > mass market, and that has most certainly been the case in the solar > > > industry. That 50% increase in panel efficiency doesn't necessarily > mean > > > that the cost per watt will be reduced in the short term -- those > panels > > > may simply sell for 50% more. > > > > > > 73, Bob, WB4SON > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: > > > > > >> Good point Bob but include the real estate cost in to the equation > and > > >> they improve. > > >> nick > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: AMSAT-BB [On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga > > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM > > >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) > > >> > > >> Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and for > > your > > >> house: > > >> > > >> http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wouterweg at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 17:27:28 2016 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 18:27:28 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Burns, I can not possibly comment on the US electrical systems and laws & policies around them, but from a technical point of view there is a huge reason to hold off on all these extra feed-ins. And that simple reason is grid stability. So regardless of any tariff schemes and/or the power companies trying to keep their market, there is a substantial technical hurdle. I don't know how it is in the US, but I did some research during an internship on this in The Netherlands, and as a result, some kinds of inverters were outlawed in the EU because they were really dangerous to the grid stability, and also not safe in the end when instabilities did occur. (and not all of those were made in china....) Are they discouraging a growth beyond a certain size just to prevent this issue? Maybe this is substantially different in the US, since the grid looks completely different. Wouter PA3WEG On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > I guess there are a lot of folks interested in this even though it is only > peripherally related to satellites...I hope there are not too many > objections. > > But I wanted to ask if anyone has heard this rumor: After a certain number > of solar connections, power companies will no longer be required to do net > metering. I don't know whether a) they would just not allow any more new > installations with backfeed at all or b) for new installations they would > only pay wholesale, or c) somehow they average retail and wholesale prices > for everyone who is backfeeding. > > I can surely understand why a power company would WANT to do that. They > are usually getting power that they have to pay extra for at a time when > they need it less. But it certainly reduces some of the financial > incentive to install, if true. Anyone know more? It would probably differ > by state... > > 73, > > Burns W2BFJ > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Robert Bruninga > wrote: > > > > If the project is not operating by now, it'll cost 30% more after > > midnight. > > > > No. The 30% federal tax incentive was to end by the end of 2016, not the > > beginning. AND does'nt matter anyway, since the do-nothing congress > > actually included an extenaion in the spending bill. > > > > > Putting solar on an asphalt roof ... is a bad idea. Not a place to > screw > > up. > > > > Use a reputable contractor with guarantee. They know how to do it right. > > > > > 42 panels 50 lbs per (for 11 kW system)... > > > Remember statics and dynamics?? > > > ... bracing rafters in a crawlspace is a mug's game. > > > In Florida in summer? Fatal. > > > > 50 lbs per panel over 18 sqft is only a load of 2.8 lbs per square foot > > and is insignificant compared to the required building code roof design > > figure of typically 30 psf. (Though in Florida the snow load is > considered > > 0). The good news elsewhere is that solar panels melt snow far faster > than > > a normal roof, so there is no multiday buildup and icing load... > > > > > Today as of 3pm EDT the system produced 23 kWh. > > > Best day so far was 100% FL sunshine and a COLD day: 82 kWh. > > > > Congratulations, sounds like you did it anyway... > > > > > HF RFI? Undetectable. > > > > Thanks, that is great news! > > > > > I got the last (3) 3.8kW transformer based inverters in stock. > > > SMA makes nice gear. Cadwelds, IMC 3/4" conduit. > > > > I was totally shocked when I ordered an SMA inverter to add to my other > > three XANTREX ones which only weighted 25 lbs. The SMA was so heavy I > had > > to invite my son to dinner just to get help getting it from the porch to > > inside the house! Then had to feed him again a week later to help lift > it > > into place. I think it is over 100 lbs? And compared to the XANTREX, > there > > were may nitpicks I did not like about the SMA at all. > > > > But then of course, XANTREX doesn't make grid-tie inverters any more and > > SMA does seem to have very good reviews. > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob wrote: > > > > > > Sort of off the AMSAT topic, but the most recent estimate is that > about > > > 20 > > > > gigawatts of solar will be added in 2016 -- almost doubling the total > > > > installed capacity of US solar power. This is being primarily driven > > by > > > > residential installations. Utility-scale installations are actually > > down > > > > 5%. > > > > > > > > One thing that was keeping mass market efficiency down was a glut of > > > > production capability that existed through 2014. Manufactures were > not > > > > keen on investing in new processes at the same time they were going > out > > > of > > > > business or consolidating. That glut has been drying up, prompting > > Elon > > > > Musk's to build a $1 billion dollar factory in Buffalo NY which will > > > > produce 1 GW of panels annually by the end of 2016. Those panels are > > > > expected to be 22.1% efficient. That's a pretty impressive gain in > > > > efficiency. > > > > > > > > Often times market conditions, not technology, dictates what reaches > > the > > > > mass market, and that has most certainly been the case in the solar > > > > industry. That 50% increase in panel efficiency doesn't necessarily > > mean > > > > that the cost per watt will be reduced in the short term -- those > > panels > > > > may simply sell for 50% more. > > > > > > > > 73, Bob, WB4SON > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: > > > > > > > >> Good point Bob but include the real estate cost in to the equation > > and > > > >> they improve. > > > >> nick > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: AMSAT-BB [On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM > > > >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) > > > >> > > > >> Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and for > > > your > > > >> house: > > > >> > > > >> http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Jan 1 20:53:54 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 15:53:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > After a certain number of solar connections, power companies > will no longer be required to do net metering. .. > They are usually getting [solar] power that they have > to pay extra for at a time when they need it less. Not true at all except on talk radio and fossil fuel funded stink tanks. The price of electricity varies minute-by-minute over a factor of ten-to-one during each day based on the minute by minute supply and demand. Consumers pay a "fixed" rate that is 10% over the average cost to assure the utilities make their PSC guaranteed profits. But the truth is that when the utility is paying me solar net-meter rates (1-to-1 at that average consumer rate) the utility is actually getting a GREAT deal because otherwise on sunny summer days when they are having to buy very dirty high cost peaking electricity at ten to 20 times the standard rate to avoid a brownout, they are still gettting my solar at only the 1-to-1 fixed rate. That distributed solar power that the utility gets for 1-to-1 when they need it *most* is more than enough to pay the small distribution cost my solar system is avoiding. So don't be fooled by the very deep pocket disinformation from the fossil fueled stink tanks. > They are usually getting [solar] power that they have > to pay extra for at a time when they need it less. The opposite is true. Solar peaks at the same time that Air conditioning load peaks and we ll know that such brownouts are always in the summer. So they are actually always getting cheap solar-net-metered power when the DO need it most. Problem is the narrow-minded foolish politicians in many backward states believe this propaganda from the fossil fuel industry hook, line and sinker and are eating away at the benefits of net metering just to maintain the status quo and their monopoly on the grid. And if you still don't believe it, just witness our local BG&E. When you get a regular smart meter, they automatically will PAY EVERY consumer on their system TEN TIMES the normal rate for every kWh they do NOT use during these peak summer days! Normally our rate is 14 cents per kwH. But during peak summer loads, they will pay $1.50 per kWh that you do NOT use. There is the proof as to how much electricity really costs when it is needed most... yet they get my solar (net metered) for just the same 14 cents and are very definitely enjoying it. How do they know what you are NOT using? SImple, the smart meter knows your average load on such days and hence, if you dont use that much on any given brownout day you get this TEN-to-ONE premium credit. A good time to go to the beach.... Typically people who turn things off or go to the beach get a $10 to $20 credit for each such day. So don't believe everything you hear from talk radio and the stink tanks... Bob, WB4APR > > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Robert Bruninga > wrote: > >> > If the project is not operating by now, it'll cost 30% more after >> midnight. >> >> No. The 30% federal tax incentive was to end by the end of 2016, not the >> beginning. AND does'nt matter anyway, since the do-nothing congress >> actually included an extenaion in the spending bill. >> >> > Putting solar on an asphalt roof ... is a bad idea. Not a place to >> screw >> up. >> >> Use a reputable contractor with guarantee. They know how to do it right. >> >> > 42 panels 50 lbs per (for 11 kW system)... >> > Remember statics and dynamics?? >> > ... bracing rafters in a crawlspace is a mug's game. >> > In Florida in summer? Fatal. >> >> 50 lbs per panel over 18 sqft is only a load of 2.8 lbs per square foot >> and is insignificant compared to the required building code roof design >> figure of typically 30 psf. (Though in Florida the snow load is >> considered >> 0). The good news elsewhere is that solar panels melt snow far faster >> than >> a normal roof, so there is no multiday buildup and icing load... >> >> > Today as of 3pm EDT the system produced 23 kWh. >> > Best day so far was 100% FL sunshine and a COLD day: 82 kWh. >> >> Congratulations, sounds like you did it anyway... >> >> > HF RFI? Undetectable. >> >> Thanks, that is great news! >> >> > I got the last (3) 3.8kW transformer based inverters in stock. >> > SMA makes nice gear. Cadwelds, IMC 3/4" conduit. >> >> I was totally shocked when I ordered an SMA inverter to add to my other >> three XANTREX ones which only weighted 25 lbs. The SMA was so heavy I had >> to invite my son to dinner just to get help getting it from the porch to >> inside the house! Then had to feed him again a week later to help lift it >> into place. I think it is over 100 lbs? And compared to the XANTREX, >> there >> were may nitpicks I did not like about the SMA at all. >> >> But then of course, XANTREX doesn't make grid-tie inverters any more and >> SMA does seem to have very good reviews. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob wrote: >> >> > > Sort of off the AMSAT topic, but the most recent estimate is that >> about >> > 20 >> > > gigawatts of solar will be added in 2016 -- almost doubling the total >> > > installed capacity of US solar power. This is being primarily driven >> by >> > > residential installations. Utility-scale installations are actually >> down >> > > 5%. >> > > >> > > One thing that was keeping mass market efficiency down was a glut of >> > > production capability that existed through 2014. Manufactures were >> not >> > > keen on investing in new processes at the same time they were going >> out >> > of >> > > business or consolidating. That glut has been drying up, prompting >> Elon >> > > Musk's to build a $1 billion dollar factory in Buffalo NY which will >> > > produce 1 GW of panels annually by the end of 2016. Those panels are >> > > expected to be 22.1% efficient. That's a pretty impressive gain in >> > > efficiency. >> > > >> > > Often times market conditions, not technology, dictates what reaches >> the >> > > mass market, and that has most certainly been the case in the solar >> > > industry. That 50% increase in panel efficiency doesn't necessarily >> mean >> > > that the cost per watt will be reduced in the short term -- those >> panels >> > > may simply sell for 50% more. >> > > >> > > 73, Bob, WB4SON >> > > >> > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: >> > > >> > >> Good point Bob but include the real estate cost in to the equation >> and >> > >> they improve. >> > >> nick >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: AMSAT-BB [On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM >> > >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) >> > >> >> > >> Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and for >> > your >> > >> house: >> > >> >> > >> http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Jan 1 21:14:43 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 16:14:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > from a technical point of view there is a huge reason > to hold off on all these extra feed-ins (net-metering). > And that simple reason is grid stability. True and false.... It is true that the grid of 1970 has to evolve to avoid problems with grid stability. But they have been aware of these problems and have been evolving for the last 40 years to get away from the catastrophic results of business as usual and resulting half-country blackouts. Although the utilities are glacially slow to adapt, the growth of solar and wind has also been glacially slow because people just resist change even when it is to their advantage. But the GRID has seen it coming and has been getting ready. 10 years ago, they said the grid will go unstable above 2% solar (because they NEVER even looked at the weather to estimate tomorrow's load). Now the weather model is an excellent forcaster of available power an dload. Then 5 years ago they were saying the grid would go unstable at 10%. (Absolutely true if they still did nothing to improve their systems from the 1970s way of dispatching power But they have not been sitting still). Guess what, Hawaii has now passed 40% solar and the grid has still not gone unstable because every day they are improving how they manage the grid. Back in 2013, Germany exceeded 60% solar and wind and their grid held up fine. Then this year, the Netherlands peaked at 100% solar/wind and their grid did just fine. The US can easily keep up with the evolving grid as long as we dont get held back by the fossil fuel industry's opposition. So of course, the stability of the grid is a concern, but that is why we have some of the best EE's on the planet working in parallel for 3 decades with renwewable growth to stay ahead of the variability of renewable clean power. So I don't fault anyone for commenting on the stability of the grid, but it is always last year's news and not keeping up with the day to day march toward cleaner power. I attended an IEEE International Conference on Energy last year and expected to hear gloom and doom. I heard exactlly the opposite. Every paper showing techinques, and how to achieve stability and renewable growth were ten times as many as the few claiming doom. And most papers were showing how easy it was with positiv results and others how we will be able to grow the changes to make the grid more responsive. So keep a jaundiced ear to repetitions of decades or even last year's dire predictions... the world is changing despite the billions of dollars being spent by the fossil fuel industry to make sure they remain on top. Bob, Wb4APR > So regardless of any tariff schemes and/or the power companies trying to > keep their market, there is a substantial technical hurdle. I don't know > how it is in the US, but I did some research during an internship on this > in The Netherlands, and as a result, some kinds of inverters were outlawed > in the EU because they were really dangerous to the grid stability, and > also not safe in the end when instabilities did occur. > (and not all of those were made in china....) > Are they discouraging a growth beyond a certain size just to prevent this > issue? > > Maybe this is substantially different in the US, since the grid looks > completely different. > > > Wouter PA3WEG > > > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > >> I guess there are a lot of folks interested in this even though it is only >> peripherally related to satellites...I hope there are not too many >> objections. >> >> But I wanted to ask if anyone has heard this rumor: After a certain >> number >> of solar connections, power companies will no longer be required to do net >> metering. I don't know whether a) they would just not allow any more new >> installations with backfeed at all or b) for new installations they would >> only pay wholesale, or c) somehow they average retail and wholesale prices >> for everyone who is backfeeding. >> >> I can surely understand why a power company would WANT to do that. They >> are usually getting power that they have to pay extra for at a time when >> they need it less. But it certainly reduces some of the financial >> incentive to install, if true. Anyone know more? It would probably >> differ >> by state... >> >> 73, >> >> Burns W2BFJ >> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Robert Bruninga >> wrote: >> >> > > If the project is not operating by now, it'll cost 30% more after >> > midnight. >> > >> > No. The 30% federal tax incentive was to end by the end of 2016, not the >> > beginning. AND does'nt matter anyway, since the do-nothing congress >> > actually included an extenaion in the spending bill. >> > >> > > Putting solar on an asphalt roof ... is a bad idea. Not a place to >> screw >> > up. >> > >> > Use a reputable contractor with guarantee. They know how to do it >> right. >> > >> > > 42 panels 50 lbs per (for 11 kW system)... >> > > Remember statics and dynamics?? >> > > ... bracing rafters in a crawlspace is a mug's game. >> > > In Florida in summer? Fatal. >> > >> > 50 lbs per panel over 18 sqft is only a load of 2.8 lbs per square foot >> > and is insignificant compared to the required building code roof design >> > figure of typically 30 psf. (Though in Florida the snow load is >> considered >> > 0). The good news elsewhere is that solar panels melt snow far faster >> than >> > a normal roof, so there is no multiday buildup and icing load... >> > >> > > Today as of 3pm EDT the system produced 23 kWh. >> > > Best day so far was 100% FL sunshine and a COLD day: 82 kWh. >> > >> > Congratulations, sounds like you did it anyway... >> > >> > > HF RFI? Undetectable. >> > >> > Thanks, that is great news! >> > >> > > I got the last (3) 3.8kW transformer based inverters in stock. >> > > SMA makes nice gear. Cadwelds, IMC 3/4" conduit. >> > >> > I was totally shocked when I ordered an SMA inverter to add to my other >> > three XANTREX ones which only weighted 25 lbs. The SMA was so heavy I >> had >> > to invite my son to dinner just to get help getting it from the porch to >> > inside the house! Then had to feed him again a week later to help lift >> it >> > into place. I think it is over 100 lbs? And compared to the XANTREX, >> there >> > were may nitpicks I did not like about the SMA at all. >> > >> > But then of course, XANTREX doesn't make grid-tie inverters any more and >> > SMA does seem to have very good reviews. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob wrote: >> > >> > > > Sort of off the AMSAT topic, but the most recent estimate is that >> about >> > > 20 >> > > > gigawatts of solar will be added in 2016 -- almost doubling the >> total >> > > > installed capacity of US solar power. This is being primarily >> driven >> > by >> > > > residential installations. Utility-scale installations are actually >> > down >> > > > 5%. >> > > > >> > > > One thing that was keeping mass market efficiency down was a glut of >> > > > production capability that existed through 2014. Manufactures were >> not >> > > > keen on investing in new processes at the same time they were going >> out >> > > of >> > > > business or consolidating. That glut has been drying up, prompting >> > Elon >> > > > Musk's to build a $1 billion dollar factory in Buffalo NY which will >> > > > produce 1 GW of panels annually by the end of 2016. Those panels >> are >> > > > expected to be 22.1% efficient. That's a pretty impressive gain in >> > > > efficiency. >> > > > >> > > > Often times market conditions, not technology, dictates what reaches >> > the >> > > > mass market, and that has most certainly been the case in the solar >> > > > industry. That 50% increase in panel efficiency doesn't necessarily >> > mean >> > > > that the cost per watt will be reduced in the short term -- those >> > panels >> > > > may simply sell for 50% more. >> > > > >> > > > 73, Bob, WB4SON >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Good point Bob but include the real estate cost in to the equation >> > and >> > > >> they improve. >> > > >> nick >> > > >> >> > > >> -----Original Message----- >> > > >> From: AMSAT-BB [On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga >> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM >> > > >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> > > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) >> > > >> >> > > >> Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and >> for >> > > your >> > > >> house: >> > > >> >> > > >> http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png >> > > >> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> > expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> > AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From wouterweg at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 22:59:14 2016 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 23:59:14 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bob, agreed on almost all points but: 1) I Live in the Netherlands. I had no idea you would see 40% decentralized as "high". My research was for 90 - 100%, and was 10 years ago. The area I live in has received some major upgrades to the grid, but there are places where decentralized production would still cause problems because of (local) instabilities. 2) We have lots of greenhouses in my area. The production of power by the farmers (=decentralized) grew from 150MW in 2005 to 800MW in 2010. last years numbers have not been published yet. farmers generate around 13% of the countries power with local gas turbines, the CO2 is piped into the greenhouses to make the crop grow, and the heat is used to heat the greenhouses and neighboring houses etc. This 13% is NOT renewable. 3) The energy need of The Netherlands hardly changes over the year, since we do not have ACs in homes, and only newer office buildings are getting power efficient ones. Older buildings just don't have AC. We actually need slightly more power in the winter, since we need more lighting as it gets dark earlier. 4) When the sun shines and it is still cold (spring) we get peak PhotoVoltaic production. we have to dial down our gas fired plants to accommodate for this. Fortunately, the gas plants are fast in control, so clouds or change in weather can be catered for. Lots of our coal plants have been shut in the 80s/90s, although some "base load" coal plants are still in operation, and a new one is being built as well. 5) There is no reason in The Netherlands to not have extra renewable energy sources. I really don't know how your "fossil fuel industry's opposition" can keep you from putting solar panels on your roof. I think everyone should! 6) I think you have a different definition of grid stability. What I tested is the following: If the power goes away in a city that runs on 90% local production, that may have a very good reason. You want the power to go down in case a short circuit exists or there is a transformer fault somewhere. Or when you want to work on an isolated section of the grid. In case of our 100% Photovoltaic and wind inverter case, even if the breaker in the block transformer goes, all there inverters will happily continue supplying power. They periodically check if the "grid" is still there by switching off their own inverter and measuring the line. In case of, say, 100 inverters, you can almost guarantee that the 99 others will make sure that "grid" is there during the measurement period. Now, there things are all synchronizing to the "grid" that in this case is just your 99 neighbors. so the frequency can drift away and they will all happily drift with with each other. The cheap models I tested had two very dangerous features: A - they sensed each other as valid grid voltage, leaving an engineer unable to cut the power on a section of line. There was no way to shut these suckers off in case you need to work at the substation safely B - the grid frequency (50Hz here) would run away upwards until there were MOSFets flying everywhere. We literally had a dozen kill themselves when we did that experiment. It was huge fun though, hearing them scream ;) 7) Our national grid has had 99.9999% uptime over the last years, with 4 interruptions in 2014. Lastly, unfortunately my country is still pathetic in using solar power. we should really be doing more here and world-wide. Yes, we peaked at 100%, for a very short time though ;) In conclusion: there may be technical problems with decentralized power production that may lead to a feed-in stop by the power company. But these are local stops and backed up by engineers. not bankers. Again, all my arguments are technical for my local country and your mileage may vary. 73 Wouter PA3WEG On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > > from a technical point of view there is a huge reason > > to hold off on all these extra feed-ins (net-metering). > > And that simple reason is grid stability. > > True and false.... > > It is true that the grid of 1970 has to evolve to avoid problems with grid > stability. But they have been aware of these problems and have been > evolving for the last 40 years to get away from the catastrophic results of > business as usual and resulting half-country blackouts. > > Although the utilities are glacially slow to adapt, the growth of solar and > wind has also been glacially slow because people just resist change even > when it is to their advantage. But the GRID has seen it coming and has > been getting ready. > > 10 years ago, they said the grid will go unstable above 2% solar (because > they NEVER even looked at the weather to estimate tomorrow's load). Now > the weather model is an excellent forcaster of available power an dload. > Then 5 years ago they were saying the grid would go unstable at 10%. > (Absolutely true if they still did nothing to improve their systems from > the 1970s way of dispatching power But they have not been sitting still). > > Guess what, Hawaii has now passed 40% solar and the grid has still not gone > unstable because every day they are improving how they manage the grid. > Back in 2013, Germany exceeded 60% solar and wind and their grid held up > fine. Then this year, the Netherlands peaked at 100% solar/wind and their > grid did just fine. The US can easily keep up with the evolving grid as > long as we dont get held back by the fossil fuel industry's opposition. > > So of course, the stability of the grid is a concern, but that is why we > have some of the best EE's on the planet working in parallel for 3 decades > with renwewable growth to stay ahead of the variability of renewable clean > power. > > So I don't fault anyone for commenting on the stability of the grid, but it > is always last year's news and not keeping up with the day to day march > toward cleaner power. > > I attended an IEEE International Conference on Energy last year and > expected to hear gloom and doom. I heard exactlly the opposite. Every > paper showing techinques, and how to achieve stability and renewable > growth were ten times as many as the few claiming doom. And most papers > were showing how easy it was with positiv results and others how we will be > able to grow the changes to make the grid more responsive. > > So keep a jaundiced ear to repetitions of decades or even last year's dire > predictions... the world is changing despite the billions of dollars being > spent by the fossil fuel industry to make sure they remain on top. > > Bob, Wb4APR > > > > > > So regardless of any tariff schemes and/or the power companies trying to > > keep their market, there is a substantial technical hurdle. I don't know > > how it is in the US, but I did some research during an internship on this > > in The Netherlands, and as a result, some kinds of inverters were > outlawed > > in the EU because they were really dangerous to the grid stability, and > > also not safe in the end when instabilities did occur. > > (and not all of those were made in china....) > > Are they discouraging a growth beyond a certain size just to prevent this > > issue? > > > > Maybe this is substantially different in the US, since the grid looks > > completely different. > > > > > > Wouter PA3WEG > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > > > >> I guess there are a lot of folks interested in this even though it is > only > >> peripherally related to satellites...I hope there are not too many > >> objections. > >> > >> But I wanted to ask if anyone has heard this rumor: After a certain > >> number > >> of solar connections, power companies will no longer be required to do > net > >> metering. I don't know whether a) they would just not allow any more > new > >> installations with backfeed at all or b) for new installations they > would > >> only pay wholesale, or c) somehow they average retail and wholesale > prices > >> for everyone who is backfeeding. > >> > >> I can surely understand why a power company would WANT to do that. They > >> are usually getting power that they have to pay extra for at a time when > >> they need it less. But it certainly reduces some of the financial > >> incentive to install, if true. Anyone know more? It would probably > >> differ > >> by state... > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Burns W2BFJ > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Robert Bruninga > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > If the project is not operating by now, it'll cost 30% more after > >> > midnight. > >> > > >> > No. The 30% federal tax incentive was to end by the end of 2016, not > the > >> > beginning. AND does'nt matter anyway, since the do-nothing congress > >> > actually included an extenaion in the spending bill. > >> > > >> > > Putting solar on an asphalt roof ... is a bad idea. Not a place to > >> screw > >> > up. > >> > > >> > Use a reputable contractor with guarantee. They know how to do it > >> right. > >> > > >> > > 42 panels 50 lbs per (for 11 kW system)... > >> > > Remember statics and dynamics?? > >> > > ... bracing rafters in a crawlspace is a mug's game. > >> > > In Florida in summer? Fatal. > >> > > >> > 50 lbs per panel over 18 sqft is only a load of 2.8 lbs per square > foot > >> > and is insignificant compared to the required building code roof > design > >> > figure of typically 30 psf. (Though in Florida the snow load is > >> considered > >> > 0). The good news elsewhere is that solar panels melt snow far faster > >> than > >> > a normal roof, so there is no multiday buildup and icing load... > >> > > >> > > Today as of 3pm EDT the system produced 23 kWh. > >> > > Best day so far was 100% FL sunshine and a COLD day: 82 kWh. > >> > > >> > Congratulations, sounds like you did it anyway... > >> > > >> > > HF RFI? Undetectable. > >> > > >> > Thanks, that is great news! > >> > > >> > > I got the last (3) 3.8kW transformer based inverters in stock. > >> > > SMA makes nice gear. Cadwelds, IMC 3/4" conduit. > >> > > >> > I was totally shocked when I ordered an SMA inverter to add to my > other > >> > three XANTREX ones which only weighted 25 lbs. The SMA was so heavy I > >> had > >> > to invite my son to dinner just to get help getting it from the porch > to > >> > inside the house! Then had to feed him again a week later to help > lift > >> it > >> > into place. I think it is over 100 lbs? And compared to the XANTREX, > >> there > >> > were may nitpicks I did not like about the SMA at all. > >> > > >> > But then of course, XANTREX doesn't make grid-tie inverters any more > and > >> > SMA does seem to have very good reviews. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob wrote: > >> > > >> > > > Sort of off the AMSAT topic, but the most recent estimate is that > >> about > >> > > 20 > >> > > > gigawatts of solar will be added in 2016 -- almost doubling the > >> total > >> > > > installed capacity of US solar power. This is being primarily > >> driven > >> > by > >> > > > residential installations. Utility-scale installations are > actually > >> > down > >> > > > 5%. > >> > > > > >> > > > One thing that was keeping mass market efficiency down was a glut > of > >> > > > production capability that existed through 2014. Manufactures > were > >> not > >> > > > keen on investing in new processes at the same time they were > going > >> out > >> > > of > >> > > > business or consolidating. That glut has been drying up, > prompting > >> > Elon > >> > > > Musk's to build a $1 billion dollar factory in Buffalo NY which > will > >> > > > produce 1 GW of panels annually by the end of 2016. Those panels > >> are > >> > > > expected to be 22.1% efficient. That's a pretty impressive gain > in > >> > > > efficiency. > >> > > > > >> > > > Often times market conditions, not technology, dictates what > reaches > >> > the > >> > > > mass market, and that has most certainly been the case in the > solar > >> > > > industry. That 50% increase in panel efficiency doesn't > necessarily > >> > mean > >> > > > that the cost per watt will be reduced in the short term -- those > >> > panels > >> > > > may simply sell for 50% more. > >> > > > > >> > > > 73, Bob, WB4SON > >> > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> Good point Bob but include the real estate cost in to the > equation > >> > and > >> > > >> they improve. > >> > > >> nick > >> > > >> > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > > >> From: AMSAT-BB [On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga > >> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM > >> > > >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > >> > > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and > >> for > >> > > your > >> > > >> house: > >> > > >> > >> > > >> http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions > >> > expressed > >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >> > AMSAT-NA. > >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mrraghav at isac.gov.in Sat Jan 2 05:06:38 2016 From: mrraghav at isac.gov.in (mrraghav at isac.gov.in) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 10:36:38 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] [isrohams] Re: [amsatindia] New Year Greetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160102050343.5DE5E80E5@lansing182.amsat.org> Dear All, ?????????????? Thank You very Much for the New Year Wishes. I wish you and your family a very very Happy, Prosperous , Healthy and Fulfilling New Year 2016. Regards Raghavendra.M.R. VU3GTI Quoting "'V.MURALI KRISHNA' vmk at isac.gov.in [isrohams]" : > ? > ? > > Dear All, > Thanks for the wishes. > I also Wish you all a very happy and prosperous new year. > > With Warm Regards > V.Murali Krishna. > > Quoting "Balaji VU3PZA kbala at isac.gov.in [isrohams]" > : > >> ? >> >> ? >> >> OM! >> Wish you very happy and prosperous new year 2016. >> with regards >> Balaji (vu3pza) >> 73 de >> Balaji (VU3PZA) >> Managing Committee Member >> Upargrah Amateur Radio Club(VU2URC) >> ISRO Satellite Centre, HAL Airport Road >> Bangalore - 560 017, India. >> Phone:(O)91-80-2508 2404, (R)91-80-2522 0810 >> ? ? ? (M)91-94807 05796 (6pm-8am) >> Fax:? ? ?91-80-2508 2406 >> E-mail ID: vu3pza at gmail.com, kbala at isac.gov.in >> >> ? >> >> ------------------------- >> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any >> attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may >> contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not >> the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >> destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> ------------------------- >> >> ? > > > ? > V MURALI KRISHNA > SCI/ENGR-SE;PFF/IFF/MFF > ISRO SATELLITE CENTRE > HAL AIRPORT ROAD > BANGALORE - 560 017. > INDIA. > EMAIL: vmk at isac.gov.in > Phone: > ? ? ? Office:? ? ? ? +91-80-25083023 > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?+91-80-25083028 > > ? > > ------------------------- > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > > ------------------------- > > __._,_.___ > ? > > ------------------------- > Posted by: "V.MURALI KRISHNA" > ------------------------- > > ? > > > Reply via web post[1] ? Reply to sender [2] ? > Reply to group [3] ? Start a New Topic[4] > ? Messages in this topic[5] (2) > > ONE WORLD ONE LANGUAGE - ISRO HAMS > ---------------------------------- > To subscribe for this group, send an email to > isrohams-subscribe at yahoogroups.com > Visit Your Group[6] > > > [7] ? Privacy[8] ? Unsubscribe[9] ? Terms of Use[10] > > ? > > . > > __,_._,___ Links: ------ [1] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/messages/1769;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMThzZWdvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRtc2dJZAMxNzY5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTY0MDMxOQ--?act=reply&messageNum=1769 [2] mailto:vmk at isac.gov.in?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bisrohams%5D%20Re%3A%20%5Bamsatindia%5D%20New%20Year%20Greetings [3] mailto:isrohams at yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bisrohams%5D%20Re%3A%20%5Bamsatindia%5D%20New%20Year%20Greetings [4] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNTBsMjE4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0NTE2NDAzMTk- [5] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/conversations/topics/1768;_ylc=X3oDMTM1ODVrbHM5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRtc2dJZAMxNzY5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTY0MDMxOQR0cGNJZAMxNzY4 [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/isrohams/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmODVlNnRnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NTE2NDAzMTk- [7] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJldWpocjhvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE3NzgyNDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ1MTY0MDMxOQ-- [8] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [9] mailto:isrohams-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe [10] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From francesco.messineo at gmail.com Sat Jan 2 10:46:29 2016 From: francesco.messineo at gmail.com (Francesco Messineo) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 11:46:29 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Wouter Weggelaar wrote: > > 5) There is no reason in The Netherlands to not have extra renewable energy > sources. I really don't know how your "fossil fuel industry's opposition" > can keep you from putting solar panels on your roof. I think everyone > should! > Here in Italy we have a good amount of sunshine, yet the power companies (and local laws) do what they can to discourage renewable energy (it's not as convenient as it should be yet). > A - they sensed each other as valid grid voltage, leaving an engineer > unable to cut the power on a section of line. There was no way to shut > these suckers off in case you need to work at the substation safely grids still are too "old" in this respect, they expect to have a "one way" direction for power flow, which is obviously not the case since some years now. To safely work on a piece of grid, it must be "cut" in more than one part. > B - the grid frequency (50Hz here) would run away upwards until there were > MOSFets flying everywhere. We literally had a dozen kill themselves when we > did that experiment. It was huge fun though, hearing them scream ;) all line inverters that I know have safe limits for grid frequency, and after frequency crosses one of those limits, they just shut down the power. > Lastly, unfortunately my country is still pathetic in using solar power. we > should really be doing more here and world-wide. Yes, we peaked at 100%, > for a very short time though ;) > one good thing that european laws must do is to force all nations to make all is worth to permit more renewable energy generation. I think this isn't going to happen, at least soon, in my opinion. 73 Frank IZ8DWF From sats at pe1rdw.demon.nl Sat Jan 2 13:57:18 2016 From: sats at pe1rdw.demon.nl (Andre) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 14:57:18 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5687D73E.8090204@pe1rdw.demon.nl> > > Lastly, unfortunately my country is still pathetic in using solar power. we > should really be doing more here and world-wide. Yes, we peaked at 100%, > for a very short time though ;) > Don't forget that that 100% was when Germany was dumping their excess solar and wind power on the Dutch grid for free, if the Germans had not done their their own grid would have collapsed. 73 de Andre PE1RDW From wb5tuf at earthlink.net Sat Jan 2 15:17:47 2016 From: wb5tuf at earthlink.net (Glenn Anderson) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 09:17:47 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009001d14570$bcbc5d50$363517f0$@earthlink.net> You're paying 14 cents per KWh.....Holy crap!!!! My current provider is charging me 2.6 cents per KWh if I stay under 2000KWh per month and 4.5 cents if I go over. Glenn WB5TUF And if you still don't believe it, just witness our local BG&E. When you get a regular smart meter, they automatically will PAY EVERY consumer on their system TEN TIMES the normal rate for every kWh they do NOT use during these peak summer days! Normally our rate is 14 cents per kwH. But during peak summer loads, they will pay $1.50 per kWh that you do NOT use. There is the proof as to how much electricity really costs when it is needed most... yet they get my solar (net metered) for just the same 14 cents and are very definitely enjoying it. From bruninga at usna.edu Sat Jan 2 16:44:59 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 11:44:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) Grid stability Message-ID: Concerning our solar powered satellite ground stations:... > 6) [concerning]... grid stability. .. > The cheap models I tested had two very dangerous features: > A - they sensed each other as valid grid voltage,... > leaving an engineer unable to cut the power... > B - the grid frequency...would run away upwards Which is why all grid-tie inverters must be compliant with grid standards. Which is also why the local establishment requires permits and inspections and UL certification of all solar grid tie installations and which is also why ALL grid-tied inverters are required by the NEC and inspected to make sure they comply with all relevant standards. 1) They shut down within one half cycle on loss of grid power 2) They shut down on over voltage 3) They shut down on frequency out of tolerance usually anything more than 0.5Hz away from 60 Hz 4) They willl not come back on line until after monitoring the grid for 5 minutes to make sure it is safe and within operating limts. And lastly grid-tie inverters are not like a normal "inverter" at all. They are simply AC current sources that sense the existing 60.0 Hz grid and push current to lead the waveform and thus source power to the grid. Lose the waveform or any other condition, and it just stops. [What about power when the grid is down?] > 7) Our national grid has had 99.9999% uptime... with only 4 interruptions in 2014. Similar here. Typically we lose power about 4 hours a year which is about 99.96% uptime. And a simple deep cycle marine battery powers my home's critical circuits then. Or I plug into the Hybrid car. Bob > On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Robert Bruninga > wrote: > >> > from a technical point of view there is a huge reason >> > to hold off on all these extra feed-ins (net-metering). >> > And that simple reason is grid stability. >> >> True and false.... >> >> It is true that the grid of 1970 has to evolve to avoid problems with grid >> stability. But they have been aware of these problems and have been >> evolving for the last 40 years to get away from the catastrophic results >> of >> business as usual and resulting half-country blackouts. >> >> Although the utilities are glacially slow to adapt, the growth of solar >> and >> wind has also been glacially slow because people just resist change even >> when it is to their advantage. But the GRID has seen it coming and has >> been getting ready. >> >> 10 years ago, they said the grid will go unstable above 2% solar (because >> they NEVER even looked at the weather to estimate tomorrow's load). Now >> the weather model is an excellent forcaster of available power an dload. >> Then 5 years ago they were saying the grid would go unstable at 10%. >> (Absolutely true if they still did nothing to improve their systems from >> the 1970s way of dispatching power But they have not been sitting still). >> >> Guess what, Hawaii has now passed 40% solar and the grid has still not >> gone >> unstable because every day they are improving how they manage the grid. >> Back in 2013, Germany exceeded 60% solar and wind and their grid held up >> fine. Then this year, the Netherlands peaked at 100% solar/wind and their >> grid did just fine. The US can easily keep up with the evolving grid as >> long as we dont get held back by the fossil fuel industry's opposition. >> >> So of course, the stability of the grid is a concern, but that is why we >> have some of the best EE's on the planet working in parallel for 3 decades >> with renwewable growth to stay ahead of the variability of renewable clean >> power. >> >> So I don't fault anyone for commenting on the stability of the grid, but >> it >> is always last year's news and not keeping up with the day to day march >> toward cleaner power. >> >> I attended an IEEE International Conference on Energy last year and >> expected to hear gloom and doom. I heard exactlly the opposite. Every >> paper showing techinques, and how to achieve stability and renewable >> growth were ten times as many as the few claiming doom. And most papers >> were showing how easy it was with positiv results and others how we will >> be >> able to grow the changes to make the grid more responsive. >> >> So keep a jaundiced ear to repetitions of decades or even last year's dire >> predictions... the world is changing despite the billions of dollars being >> spent by the fossil fuel industry to make sure they remain on top. >> >> Bob, Wb4APR >> >> >> >> >> > So regardless of any tariff schemes and/or the power companies trying to >> > keep their market, there is a substantial technical hurdle. I don't know >> > how it is in the US, but I did some research during an internship on >> this >> > in The Netherlands, and as a result, some kinds of inverters were >> outlawed >> > in the EU because they were really dangerous to the grid stability, and >> > also not safe in the end when instabilities did occur. >> > (and not all of those were made in china....) >> > Are they discouraging a growth beyond a certain size just to prevent >> this >> > issue? >> > >> > Maybe this is substantially different in the US, since the grid looks >> > completely different. >> > >> > >> > Wouter PA3WEG >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: >> > >> >> I guess there are a lot of folks interested in this even though it is >> only >> >> peripherally related to satellites...I hope there are not too many >> >> objections. >> >> >> >> But I wanted to ask if anyone has heard this rumor: After a certain >> >> number >> >> of solar connections, power companies will no longer be required to do >> net >> >> metering. I don't know whether a) they would just not allow any more >> new >> >> installations with backfeed at all or b) for new installations they >> would >> >> only pay wholesale, or c) somehow they average retail and wholesale >> prices >> >> for everyone who is backfeeding. >> >> >> >> I can surely understand why a power company would WANT to do that. >> They >> >> are usually getting power that they have to pay extra for at a time >> when >> >> they need it less. But it certainly reduces some of the financial >> >> incentive to install, if true. Anyone know more? It would probably >> >> differ >> >> by state... >> >> >> >> 73, >> >> >> >> Burns W2BFJ >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Robert Bruninga >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > If the project is not operating by now, it'll cost 30% more after >> >> > midnight. >> >> > >> >> > No. The 30% federal tax incentive was to end by the end of 2016, not >> the >> >> > beginning. AND does'nt matter anyway, since the do-nothing congress >> >> > actually included an extenaion in the spending bill. >> >> > >> >> > > Putting solar on an asphalt roof ... is a bad idea. Not a place to >> >> screw >> >> > up. >> >> > >> >> > Use a reputable contractor with guarantee. They know how to do it >> >> right. >> >> > >> >> > > 42 panels 50 lbs per (for 11 kW system)... >> >> > > Remember statics and dynamics?? >> >> > > ... bracing rafters in a crawlspace is a mug's game. >> >> > > In Florida in summer? Fatal. >> >> > >> >> > 50 lbs per panel over 18 sqft is only a load of 2.8 lbs per square >> foot >> >> > and is insignificant compared to the required building code roof >> design >> >> > figure of typically 30 psf. (Though in Florida the snow load is >> >> considered >> >> > 0). The good news elsewhere is that solar panels melt snow far >> faster >> >> than >> >> > a normal roof, so there is no multiday buildup and icing load... >> >> > >> >> > > Today as of 3pm EDT the system produced 23 kWh. >> >> > > Best day so far was 100% FL sunshine and a COLD day: 82 kWh. >> >> > >> >> > Congratulations, sounds like you did it anyway... >> >> > >> >> > > HF RFI? Undetectable. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, that is great news! >> >> > >> >> > > I got the last (3) 3.8kW transformer based inverters in stock. >> >> > > SMA makes nice gear. Cadwelds, IMC 3/4" conduit. >> >> > >> >> > I was totally shocked when I ordered an SMA inverter to add to my >> other >> >> > three XANTREX ones which only weighted 25 lbs. The SMA was so heavy >> I >> >> had >> >> > to invite my son to dinner just to get help getting it from the >> porch to >> >> > inside the house! Then had to feed him again a week later to help >> lift >> >> it >> >> > into place. I think it is over 100 lbs? And compared to the XANTREX, >> >> there >> >> > were may nitpicks I did not like about the SMA at all. >> >> > >> >> > But then of course, XANTREX doesn't make grid-tie inverters any more >> and >> >> > SMA does seem to have very good reviews. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Bob wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > Sort of off the AMSAT topic, but the most recent estimate is that >> >> about >> >> > > 20 >> >> > > > gigawatts of solar will be added in 2016 -- almost doubling the >> >> total >> >> > > > installed capacity of US solar power. This is being primarily >> >> driven >> >> > by >> >> > > > residential installations. Utility-scale installations are >> actually >> >> > down >> >> > > > 5%. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > One thing that was keeping mass market efficiency down was a >> glut of >> >> > > > production capability that existed through 2014. Manufactures >> were >> >> not >> >> > > > keen on investing in new processes at the same time they were >> going >> >> out >> >> > > of >> >> > > > business or consolidating. That glut has been drying up, >> prompting >> >> > Elon >> >> > > > Musk's to build a $1 billion dollar factory in Buffalo NY which >> will >> >> > > > produce 1 GW of panels annually by the end of 2016. Those panels >> >> are >> >> > > > expected to be 22.1% efficient. That's a pretty impressive gain >> in >> >> > > > efficiency. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Often times market conditions, not technology, dictates what >> reaches >> >> > the >> >> > > > mass market, and that has most certainly been the case in the >> solar >> >> > > > industry. That 50% increase in panel efficiency doesn't >> necessarily >> >> > mean >> >> > > > that the cost per watt will be reduced in the short term -- those >> >> > panels >> >> > > > may simply sell for 50% more. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > 73, Bob, WB4SON >> >> > > > >> >> > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> Good point Bob but include the real estate cost in to the >> equation >> >> > and >> >> > > >> they improve. >> >> > > >> nick >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> -----Original Message----- >> >> > > >> From: AMSAT-BB [On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga >> >> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM >> >> > > >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> >> > > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and >> >> for >> >> > > your >> >> > > >> house: >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available >> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >> Opinions >> >> > expressed >> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of >> >> > AMSAT-NA. >> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >> program! >> >> > Subscription settings: >> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >> Opinions expressed >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of >> >> AMSAT-NA. >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From burns at fisher.cc Sat Jan 2 20:12:39 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:12:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Some DUMB hints about using SatPC32 computer aided tuning Message-ID: I had CAT working once upon a time, but recently it has not. I don't know what I changed when, but I could not get it to work at all until I spent several hours trying different things, and finally found the (duh) really dumb problems. 1) I have a TS2000. I'm pretty sure that I saw somewhere that you have to check the +12VRTS check box in Setup/Radio to make it work for the latest version of SatPC32. I'm not sure if it has to be, but it works when it IS checked. 2) Check the serial cable. I had the right one, and knew that I did (it generally wants straight through, not null modem). But apparently somewhere along the line a connector had come loose. Tighten them all down! 3) And here is the penultimate killer: In the Setup/Radio dialog box, when you check your manufacturer, you'll see to the right a "Model" label and a pull down to say what model of radio you have. But that "label" is actually a pulldown too. Select "baudrate" instead of "Model" and SET THE BAUDRATE. (I was sure I had seen it somewhere and that I knew what I had set it too. But I was wrong). 4) The ultimate killer in my case: The TS2000 needs to be power cycled after you change its baudrate (menu 56 for those who care) before it takes effect! I hope this helps someone! 73, Burns W2BFJ From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sat Jan 2 20:19:15 2016 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 06:19:15 +1000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) rebuttal In-Reply-To: <009001d14570$bcbc5d50$363517f0$@earthlink.net> References: <009001d14570$bcbc5d50$363517f0$@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <568830C3.2000909@bigpond.com> On 03/01/16 01:17, Glenn Anderson wrote: > You're paying 14 cents per KWh.....Holy crap!!!! > > My current provider is charging me 2.6 cents per KWh if I stay under 2000KWh > per month and 4.5 cents if I go over. > Here in Australia we pay 22.24 cents per Kwh. Most electricity retailers pay a feed-in tariff of 8 cents per Kwh. Fortunately, we got in early and receive 44 cents per Kwh. We have never paid for electricity, and since we only use 1.2 Khw per day from the grid we instead receive a small income. -- Regards, Phil From wao at vfr.net Sun Jan 3 06:32:29 2016 From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 22:32:29 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-003 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <5688C07D.20301@vfr.net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-003 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Fox-1Cliff and -1D matching contribution offer * iCubeSat 2016, 5th Interplanetary CubeSat Workshop, Oxford, UK - Call for papers and registration * Spring 2016 CubeSat Workshop Abstracts Submission Due January 15 * 2016 NASA Academy * 2016 NOAA Undergraduate Scholarships * Tim Peake Sandringham School UK Contact * AMSAT Events * ARISS News SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-003.01 ANS-003 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 003.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE January 3, 2016 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-003.01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fox-1Cliff and -1D matching contribution offer I just want to thank everyone for the outstanding response to our year-end request for support for the Fox-1Cliff and -1D fundraiser. During the period of December 25th to December 31st, a total of $7052.41 was raised online through the FundRazr app. This includes a pledged $1000 matching donation from a generous donor/member. 73 weeks ago when we announced the launch opportunity for Fox-1Cliff (and later including -1D), we set $25,000 as a goal for online fundraising through social media and the FundRazr app. This amount covers a fractional but significant portion of the launch expense. (The total cost of construction and launch was estimated to be $125,000.) I'm very pleased that as of the 31th of December, we have raised $26,458 from over 250 contributors. Donations have varied from $3 and up, so everyone may contribute and be recognized. There is a continuing need to raise the additional funds necessary to launch Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D in 2016. Just visit https://fundrazr.com/campaigns/6pz92/ab/561Zd and pick your level of support. Donations of $1000 or more will receive a plaque with a solar panel protective cover after launch, and $100 qualifies for a Fox challenge coin to be delivered in 6-8 weeks when the next shipment arrives. Please see http://www.amsat.org/?p=4843 and http://www.amsat.org/?p=2957 for additional information. Thank you for the support, [ANS thanks Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, AMSAT VP Operations for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- iCubeSat 2016, 5th Interplanetary CubeSat Workshop, Oxford, UK - Call for papers and registration iCubeSat 2016 - 5th Interplanetary CubeSat Workshop 24-25 May 2016, Oxford, United Kingdom Call for papers and registration iCubeSat 2016, the 5th Interplanetary CubeSat Workshop, will address the technical challenges, opportunities, and practicalities of interplanetary space exploration with CubeSats. The workshop provides a unique environment for open wide ranging practical collaboration between academic researchers, industry professionals, policy makers and students developing this new and rapidly growing field. Technical Program Talks and round tables will focus on three themes: technology, science, and open collaboration. The program will also include unconference sessions to provide additional opportunities to engage with the interplanetary CubeSat community and potential collaborators. Talks and supporting material will be streamed and archived on the conference website. A lively social program in and around summertime Oxford will be arranged for participants and their guests. Abstract Submission and Dates Talks on astrodynamics, attitude control and determination systems, citizen science, communications, landers, launch opportunities, open source approaches, outreach, payloads, policy, power systems, propulsion, reentry systems, ride-shares, science missions, software, standardization, structures, systems engineering and other related topics are all welcome. 1st June 2015 Registration opens at http://iCubeSat.org/registration 1st April 2016 Abstract upload deadline 15th April 2016 Notification of abstract acceptance 20th May 2016 Presentation (and optional paper) upload deadline Please confirm your interest in presenting or attending as soon as possible (to assist us size the venue) by completing the registration form at http://iCubeSat.org/registration Exhibition CubeSat specialists and other vendors are invited to contact exhibit at iCubeSat.org for details of exhibition opportunities. Location The 5th Interplanetary CubeSat Workshop will be held on or near the University of Oxford campus, Oxford, United Kingdom on Tuesday, May 24th and Wednesday May 25th, 2016. Organizers The organizing committee can be contacted at committee at iCubeSat.org See you in Oxford! pp iCubeSat 2016 Organising Committee www.iCubeSat.org Download the conference poster: https://icubesat.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/20150606_icubesat2016poster.pdf [ANS thanks the 5th Interplanetary CubeSat Workshop for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Spring 2016 CubeSat Workshop Abstracts Submission Due January 15 13th Annual CubeSat Developer's Workshop Abstract Submission Deadline is JANUARY 15, 2016! Workshop Dates: April 20-22, 2016 San Luis Obispo, CA, US Please keep abstracts under 500 words, the abstracts should indicate the ideas addressed within the presentation or poster, and the objectives of the presentation/poster. Readers should not have to read the full text to understand the abstract. More importantly, any topic is welcome! See http://cubesat.atl.calpoly.edu/index.php/workshops/upcoming-workshops/ 123--workshop-schedule or http://www.cubesat.org/ [ANS thanks www.cubesat.org/ for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2016 NASA Academy The 2016 NASA Academy is being offered at three locations: NASA's Ames Research Center in California, NASA's Glenn Research Center in Ohio, and NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama. Applications are being solicited for this 10-week summer experience for college students with emphasis on immersive and integrated multidisciplinary exposure and training. Activities include laboratory research, a group project, lectures, meetings with experts and administrators, visits to NASA centers and space-related industries, and technical presentations. Students learn how NASA and its centers operate, gain experience in world-class laboratories, and participate in leadership development and team-building activities. Applicants must be U.S. citizens (including citizens of the U.S. territories Puerto Rico, Guam, U.S. Virgin Islands and Northern Marianas) majoring in a STEM discipline. The applicants must be undergraduate or graduate students enrolled full-time in accredited universities and colleges in the U.S. and its territories. Students may apply to any of the NASA Academy opportunities by following these steps: 1. Log into the NASA One Stop Shopping Initiative, or OSSI, site at https://intern.nasa.gov. 2. Register and set up an account. 3. Select the "Search Opportunities" tab at the top bar. 4. Select "NASA Center(s) of Interest" under "NASA Center/Facility." 5. Enter "Academy" in the "Keywords" block at the bottom of the screen. 6. Click the "Search" button at the very bottom of screen; a list of Academy Opportunities will then be displayed. 7. Click on the "View" icon in the first column under "Action" to read about the Opportunity of interest, followed by comments on additional instructions for completing the application, including two requested essays. The deadline for receipt of NASA Academy application(s) and associated documents is Feb. 16, 2016. Please direct questions about NASA Academy to NASA-Academy-Application at mail.nasa.gov. [ANS thanks the NASA Education Express Message -- Dec. 30, 2015 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2016 NOAA Undergraduate Scholarships The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is accepting applications for its 2016 Educational Partnership Program Undergraduate Scholarship and 2016 Ernest F. Hollings Scholarship Programs. The Educational Partnership Program Undergraduate Scholarship Program provides scholarships for two years of undergraduate study to students majoring in STEM fields that directly support NOAA's mission. Participants conduct research at a NOAA facility during two paid summer internships. A stipend and housing allowance is provided. Students attending an accredited Minority Serving Institution as defined by the U.S. Department of Education (Hispanic Serving Institutions, Historically Black Colleges and Universities, Tribal Colleges and Universities, Alaskan-Native Serving Institutions, and Native Hawaiian Serving Institutions) are eligible to apply for the program. The institutions must be within the United States or U.S. Territories. Applicants must be U.S. citizens and must earn and maintain a minimum 3.2 grade point average on a 4.0 scale. The Ernest F. Hollings Scholarship Program provides scholarships for two years of undergraduate study with a paid internship at a NOAA facility during the interim summer session. A stipend and housing allowance is provided. Applicants must be U.S. citizens enrolled full-time at an accredited college or university. Applicants also must have and maintain a declared major in a discipline including, but not limited to, oceanic, environmental, biological, and atmospheric sciences; mathematics; engineering; remote-sensing technology; physical and social sciences including geography, physics, hydrology, geomatics; or teacher education that supports NOAA's programs and mission. Participants must earn and maintain a minimum 3.0 grade point average on a 4.0 scale. Applications for both scholarship programs are due Jan. 29, 2016. For more information, visit http://www.oesd.noaa.gov/scholarships/. Please direct questions about these scholarship opportunities to StudentScholarshipPrograms at noaa.gov. [ANS thanks the NASA Education Express Message -- Dec. 30, 2015 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Peake Sandringham School UK Contact The first UK Amateur Radio school contact by UK astronaut Tim Peake GB1SS from the International Space Station (ISS) will take place on Friday, January 8, 2016 at 0847 GMT with students at Sandringham School, St. Albans in Hertfordshire. The school will use the call sign GB1SAN. The St. Albans based Verulam Amateur Radio Club (VARC) ran an Amateur Radio Foundation License course in December. Three of the candidates were pupils from Sandringham School who took the course in preparation for the contact with Tim Peake. ARISS UK will provide and set up all necessary radio equipment (for example, low earth orbit satellite tracking antennas and radios) to establishing a fully functional, direct radio link with the International Space Station from the school premises. In a ten-minute window when the ISS will be over the UK, an amateur radio contact will be established with Tim, and students will be able to ask him questions about his life and work on board the ISS. Tim will use a frequency of 145.800 MHz FM for the contact and his signal should be receivable across the British Isles and Europe. What equipment do you need to hear the ISS? Almost any 144 MHz FM transceiver will receive the ISS; you can even use a general coverage VHF scanner with an external antenna. As far as the antenna is concerned the simpler the better. A ? wave ground plane can give good results because it has a high angle of radiation. Large 2m colinears don?t work quite as well because the radiation pattern is concentrated at the horizon. You can receive the ISS using a 144 MHz hand-held outdoors with its helical antenna but a 1/4 wave whip will give far better results. In the UK we use narrow 2.5 kHz deviation FM but the ISS transmits on 145.800 MHz with the wider 5 kHz deviation used in much of the world. Most rigs can be switched been wide and narrow deviation FM filters so select the wider filter. Hand-held rigs all seem to have a single wide filter fitted as standard. The International Space Station is traveling around the Earth at over 28,000 km/h. This high speed makes radio signals appear to shift in frequency, a phenomenon called Doppler Shift. When the ISS is approaching your location the signal may be 3.5 kHz higher in frequency on 145.8035 MHz. During the 10 minute pass the frequency will gradually move lower reaching 145.7965 MHz as the ISS goes out of range. To get maximum signal you ideally need a radio that tunes in 1 kHz or smaller steps to follow the shift but in practice acceptable results are obtained with the radio left on 145.800 MHz. ISS Amateur Radio Stations There are two amateur radio stations available to astronauts on the ISS. The Russian Service Module has a dual-band Kenwood TM-D710 transceiver (this replaced the older TM-D700). Four antennas are available, three of which are identical and each can support both transmit and receive operations on 2m, 70cm, L band and S band. They also support reception for the Russian Glisser TV system, which is used during spacewalks. The fourth antenna is a 2.5 m long vertical whip that can be used to support High Frequency (HF) operations although at the present time there is no amateur HF equipment. The ESA Columbus Module has two Ericsson M-PA series FM 5 watt handheld radios, one for 145, and the other for 435 MHz, as well as the 2.4 GHz HamTV Digital Amateur Television Transmitter. Antennas are available for 145 and 435 MHz for the Ericsson handhelds; additionally, there are 1260 and 2400 MHz antennas for the HamTV system. Tim Peake will the using the equipment in the ESA Columbus Module. The ISS HamTV will not be available for the Sandringham School contact because the equipment will be turned off to permit other experiments. You?ll be able to listen online to Tim Peake GB1SS on the 145.800 MHz FM downlink by using the SUWS WebSDR radio at http://websdr.suws.org.uk/ Tim Peake ISS School Contacts Announced http://amsat-uk.org/2015/12/15/tim-peake-iss-school-contacts-announced/ Sandringham School http://www.sandringham.herts.sch.uk/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SandringhamSch1 Verulam Amateur Radio Club http://www.verulam-arc.org.uk/ What is Amateur Radio? http://www.essexham.co.uk/what-is-amateur-radio Find an amateur radio training course near you https://thersgb.org/services/coursefinder/ ARISS http://www.ariss-eu.org/ [ANS thanks ARISS & AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Events Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around the country. Examples of these events are radio club meetings where AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations, forums, and/or demonstrations). *Saturday, 9 January 2016 ? Thunderbird Hamfest 2016 in Phoenix AZ *Friday and Saturday, 19-20 February 2016 ? Yuma Hamfest and 2016 ARRL Southwest Division Convention in Yuma AZ *Saturday and Sunday, 12-13 March 2016 ? ScienceCity science fair, on the University of Arizona campus in Tucson AZ *Saturday, 19 March 2016 ? Scottsdale Amateur Radio Club Spring Hamfest 2016 in Scottsdale AZ *Saturday, 26 March 2016 ? Tucson Spring Hamfest in Tucson AZ [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Upcoming Contacts Frederick W. Harnett Middle School, Blackstone, Massachusetts, telebridge via K6DUE The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-01-05 17:42:06 UTC 81 deg Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK, direct via GB1SAN The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-01-08 08:47:47 UTC 83 deg. Watch http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled. [ANS thanks ARISS, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Joe Spier, K6WAO k6wao at amsat dot org From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Sun Jan 3 07:14:48 2016 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (dave at g4dpz.me.uk) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 07:14:48 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Warehouse Problem Message-ID: <2C3FE4A7-F361-4840-A942-72D798C5A50E@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi I made some changes to the warehouse last night to try to fix up capturing UKube packets where the sequence number changed erratically. Unfortunately I broke the FC1 processing, will revert the software in an hour or so. Apologies for any inconvenience caused. 73 Dave, G4DPZ Sent from my iPhone From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Sun Jan 3 12:06:01 2016 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 12:06:01 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Warehouse Message-ID: Hi, Normal service is resumed. Apologies for the outage. 73 Dave From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 12:45:42 2016 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 07:45:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) In-Reply-To: <4f75c60ffd4528106027b2afa7818fc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f75c60ffd4528106027b2afa7818fc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I disagree with only one piece of Bob's analysis and that is the rise a complicating factor. Just like on earth, every spacecraft developer is faced with the complication of permanent destruction of demand. The complication is most apparent in small spacecraft and/or in LEO. In GEO, the energy demand is dominated by the need to produce higher power for transmitters so all the power you can generate is better if you decrease the size of solar panels unless you want INCREASE power demand by increasing capacity (add more channels with the same energy consumption per channel as before). The issue with LEO space craft with smaller antenna and power limitations etc is that the computational requirements might stay the same BUT THE POWER CONSUMED to do the computations is steadily decreasing and is resulting in permanent destruction of demand and the pressure to increase efficiency is offset by decreased power requirements in electronics. It should be clear that this is a complicated thing to model. I haven't done it and, like Bob says, I just don't care, I just buy what I need for spacecraft. On house panels, people are not paying attention. All the solar panels you see hanging on telephone poles, charging batteries, to power street lights, etc I never ever looked once at the efficiency of the solar panels I purchased surplus from the bazillion produced for these telephone pole installation. I bought enough panels to produce the power I wanted to produce and with slowly getting enough panels to produce enough at winter solstice and the rest is surplus to my needs but my MPPT deals with that charging my batteries. The other factor for houses is that permanent destruction of demand is happening there in case you want to set a maximize capacity for your panels and forget it. Permanent destruction of demand is happening in LED light bulbs, LED TV's, tinier power required by computers, more efficient cooling in refrigerators and other appliances. Many power companies and coal producers have become extremely concerned. In Virginia they set a fee on those wishing to tie their solar power to the grid. This is BS since they claim they must charge you to transport your surplus power. It's crap because almost NO ONE produces more power than they consume unless they live in Southern California for example. The power and coal companies have lobbied for and received a fee to slow down the deployment of home and building owners from decreasing the demand on their grid system being fed by coal power plants. I despise mostly stupid but sometimes corrupt politicians... Thank you for your interesting discussion Bob, Bob N4HY On Wednesday, December 30, 2015, Robert Bruninga wrote: > Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and for your > house: > > http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png > > > > The 10,000 Watt array for your house costs less than a 10 W array for a > cubesat satellite. > > > > I get tired of the excuse, ?Im waiting for higher efficiency cells? when > the cost of just doubling the efficiency from 15% to 30% is a factor of > 1000 times more expensive. You?ll be dead before the expensive ones even > come down by half (much less the 1000 to 1 needed to make them practical). > > > > And in fact it will never ever happen. Because a satellite builder will > pay a measly $10,000 to DOUBLE the power of his 4 inch satellite and so the > market for the highest efficiency cells will always get a premium price > because the satellite buyers will always pay max dollars for max power > independent of cost. > > > > And there will never be a decaying cost or learning curve, because as soon > as someone comes up with a 32% solar cell, then the 30% technology is > ABANDONED because the space industry will all move to the 32% cells and be > happy to pay even more for the higher power and there is practically no > market for last year?s 30% cells that cost 1000 times more than existing > silicon cells at 15%. And without a growing market for last year?s HIGH > efficiency cells, there will never be a learning curve and declining cost. > > > > Meanwhile the cheap 15% cells being mass produced for the terrestrial solar > market in a MILLION times the volume at 1/1000 the cost already cost less > than a window of the same size! Witness the cost reduction of 10 to 1 in > the last 10 years and the 2 to 1 reduction in the last 3 years with > improvements from 15% efficiency up to around 18% not by changing the > technology of the 60 year old simple silicon, but just optimizing the > manufacturing process (by the billions)? > > > > Solar is here, Now. And it won?t get any cheaper, because as the market > expands exponentially the demand for bazillions of watts of solar will soak > up every panel produced and homeowners are then competing with massive > utility scale purchases of millions of panels. Solar panels now cost less > than just a window of the same size. It is no longer the cost of the > panels, it is simply the cost of labor that drives the majority of cost > now. You can buy solar panels for under $0.70 a watt but to have a > contractor installed system is hovering around $3.50 per watt and not going > down much at all. > > > > Lastly, if you have sun, you KNOW eventually you will be going solar. So > once you realize that, you should also realize that every electric bill you > pay from now on is just throwing money away which would have been better > invested in free electricity and 10% annual return for life on your roof or > in your yard. > > > > Waiting gains nothing. Even the solar panels I bought 4 years ago at twice > the price have already paid for themselves. Waiting would have gained > nothing except 4 years of more wasted money to the utility and so many tons > of burned coal wasted into the air. Here are some more thoughts? > > > > http://aprs.org/solar-now.html > > > > Summary, Solar and Satellites? the same but 1000 times cheaper on Earth. > > > > Bob, Wb4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Dir. Research: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT From wouterweg at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 13:59:27 2016 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 14:59:27 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-79 transponder activation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, With the second activation now complete, we are developing a way forward for more permanent transponder operations. The activations have given us insight into the performance of the transponder systems, with the following noteworthy observations - The uplink frequency is higher than the published numbers - The satellite is power negative with the transponder running - The transponder is very usable once the up/downlink relation is established - Resets do occur and the behaviour has to be further charaterised We are discussing multiple ways of scheduling the transponder operations. As of now, I can not confirm when we would activate the transponder again. I would like to thank everyone that participated for their reports and special thanks to the satellite operators in Delft for running these experiments for us. 73 and happy new year Wouter Weggelaar, PA3WEG AMSAT-NL AMSAT-UK From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Sun Jan 3 15:51:32 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (Jeff A. Boyd) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 00:51:32 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Neophyte SSB transponder operation follies Message-ID: <20160104005132.0947.63087B45@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Today weather and winds were favorable (seriously, it was T-shirt weather in January) so I set up camp along a suburban road with wide sky coverage, put up my Arrow antenna with homebrew tripod mount, and put in a full schedule of SSB sat passes interspersed with the domestic JA New Year's QSO Party on 2m. http://i.imgur.com/cJcu6PY.jpg I am a complete newbie at SSB birds so you'll have to bear with my abject failure at making any QSOs through any of them so far. Dealing with trying to find my own downlink signal *and* continually adjusting the antenna has proven a handful. But I'm making baby steps and am still confident that I'll eventually figure this all out. 1. AO-73 (https://soundcloud.com/minus2c/ao-73-pass-jan-3n-2016-0954jst) The good: I successfully heard the telemetry beacon at S9 signal strength, immediately upon AOS. This told me I was doing something right. Also, at 4:50 in the above recording, I heard my own downlink signal at long last, although it was a fleeting moment of triumph. I suppose I should have taken note of what both frequencies were. The bad: No QSOs. Also the FUNCube Dashboard doesn't seem to want to run on Wine, so I couldn't actually decode the telemetry, only listen to it howl at me. 2. AO-7, mode B (https://soundcloud.com/minus2c/ao-7-pass-jan-3-2016-1410-jst) The good: Hey, it's AO-7 mode B on a day I'm actually listening! I heard plenty of CW traffic, as well as station UA9UIZ in eastern Russia calling CQ. The bad: I'm not allowed to tx to AO-7 in mode B. The JA band plan doesn't permit transmitting on 432MHz to satellites. I have to wait until it's in mode A, and then I need to be able to listen on 10 meters. (Ignore for a moment the fact that you hear JS3QBP calling on CW, I think he shouldn't be.) 3. FO-29 (https://soundcloud.com/minus2c/fo-29-pass-jan-3-2016-1440-jst) The good: Well I heard UA9UIZ calling CQ again. The bad: Pretty much everything else. I heard nary a single peep of my own signal. I'm seriously wondering whether this old IC-706 is having problems transmitting LSB, because this is my fourth attempt at this bird by now and I haven't been able to get into it no matter how many times I tune up, down, and sideways while saying OOOOOOOOOOOOO into the mic. Sigh. And then the day was over. Christmas over. Vacation over. Back to work on Monday. I'll try again next weekend. 73 J. Boyd JR2TTS -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C From johnag9d at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 17:31:42 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (John Spasojevich) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 11:31:42 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS AUDIO for Tuesday Contact Message-ID: Please join us in listening to the ISS contact with participants at the *Frederick W. Harnett Middle School, Blackstone, Massachusetts, USA* on Tuesday 5 January. AOS is anticipated at 17:42 UTC The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and K6DUE in Greenbelt, Maryland. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Audio from this contact will be fed into the: EchoLink *AMSAT* (101377) server IRLP Node 9010 Discovery Reflector Streaming Audio at: https://sites.google.com/site/arissaudio/ Audio on Echolink & web stream is generally transmitted around 20 minutes prior to the contact taking place so that you can hear some of the preparation that occurs. IRLP will begin just prior to the ground station call to the ISS assuming no issues with the local node or reflector. Please note that all breaks are manual approximately after every third question, connected repeaters may time out. ** Contact times are approximate. If the ISS executes a reboost or other maneuver, the AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) time may alter by a few minutes ** 73, John - AG9D ARISS AUDIO From lists at kc9doa.com Sun Jan 3 18:16:38 2016 From: lists at kc9doa.com (Mike Miller) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 12:16:38 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Some DUMB hints about using SatPC32 computer aided tuning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56896586.15583.D3F0EA8@lists.kc9doa.com> On 2 Jan 2016 at 15:12, Burns Fisher wrote: > 1) I have a TS2000. I'm pretty sure that I saw somewhere that > you have > to > check the +12VRTS check box in Setup/Radio to make it work for > the > latest > version of SatPC32. I'm not sure if it has to be, but it works > when it > IS > checked. The TS-2000 really wants RTS/CTS flow control. The +12VRTS apparently works if the RTS/CTS flow control is not available in the software. Of course those wires must be present in the serial cable. 73 Mike kc9doa From bruninga at usna.edu Sun Jan 3 18:18:10 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 13:18:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar powered mobile satellite operations Message-ID: Here are a few more solar factoids (for your mobile satellite operations): The solar panel area to fully power the average American commuter car (EV) for the average 12,000 miles per year is about 150 sqft (a 3 kW array) Amazingly, the area of a typical car parking space is also about 150 sqft. So all one needs to do is cover their car parking space with solar panels and have free local transportation energy for LIFE. And amazingly enough, each car in America has at least 5 parking spaces for it. One at home, one on the street, one at work, one at church, one at shopping and sports venus, etc... so all you need is just one to be covered in solar panels and we have carbon free local transportation (12,000 miles a year for free and for l life). See: http://insideevs.com/design-relationship-between-electric-cars-solar/ In addition, The supply chain from the roof of the carport (also providing shade to the car below it) is about 30 feet and is over 85% efficient, and you own it and no one can take it away or change the costs on you at any time. Compare this to the 8000 mile supply chain from oil well to your gas tank, where there are dozens of risky greedy players in the middle and where only 20% of the energy actually gets to your car. So it is no coincidence that now almost every car manufacturer is seeing the light and is now building an EV (there are over 30 on the market now*). They may not be advertising them because they make higher profit margins on selling gas cars to gullible buyers, but they are positioning themselves for when consumers wake up and also see the light for their local transportation needs. BMW has already said that all of their cars will be electric (or hybrid) within 10 years. For your mobile satellite station, however, this does not say to cover the roof of your car with solar (unless it is a flat RV or van) because the mobile satellite station is only in use about an hour a day while the parking SPACE with SOLAR panels is operating sun-up-to-sun-down and flat panels cost only 10% of ones that can bend a little. Plus the full dimensions of a "parking space" is actually more than 10 times the surface area of the small center portion of the roof of a car. So the cost effectiveness of solar on the car is about 10% of 10% or about 1% the effectiveness of having them on your car port. Besides, keeping the roof clear for antennas is more important anyway. * http://evadc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/EVInfoSheet-20150101.pdf Bob, Wb4APR From burns at fisher.cc Sun Jan 3 18:56:12 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 13:56:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Some DUMB hints about using SatPC32 computer aided tuning In-Reply-To: <56896586.15583.D3F0EA8@lists.kc9doa.com> References: <56896586.15583.D3F0EA8@lists.kc9doa.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Mike. I vaguely remember that something changed between 'b' and 'c' that required you to check the RTS box. I assume that 'b' and earlier did it in software, but I could never find it after I read it a few weeks ago. On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > On 2 Jan 2016 at 15:12, Burns Fisher wrote: > > > 1) I have a TS2000. I'm pretty sure that I saw somewhere that > > you have > > to > > check the +12VRTS check box in Setup/Radio to make it work for > > the > > latest > > version of SatPC32. I'm not sure if it has to be, but it works > > when it > > IS > > checked. > > The TS-2000 really wants RTS/CTS flow control. The +12VRTS > apparently works if the RTS/CTS flow control is not available in > the software. Of course those wires must be present in the > serial cable. > > 73 > Mike kc9doa > From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Sun Jan 3 21:05:56 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:05:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Frederick W. Harnett Middle School, Blackstone, Massachusetts Message-ID: <0B1143D4935D4EAF9D0F1A34E63A2073@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Frederick W. Harnett Middle School, Blackstone, Massachusetts on 05 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 17:42 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and K6DUE. The contact should be audible over the east coast of the U.S. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Frederick W. Hartnett Middle School is a vibrant school in the central Massachusetts town of Blackstone, adjacent to Rhode Island's northern border. It houses sixth through eighth grades for the regional school district that serves the towns of Blackstone and Millville. This is a quiet, somewhat suburban to rural area where most town residents choose to remain to raise their own families. The major landform in the area is the Blackstone River, which runs southeast through our towns. Because of this river, like many New England towns, these areas were prominent mill towns in the late industrial era, and our landscape is dotted with old mills near the river, many which have been repurposed for factory work, storage or condo living. Our regional school district has two elementary schools, one middle school, and one high school. Our ten-year-old building was built to keep our students up-to-date with technology. We are proud to say that we have 5 computer labs and a STEM program for each grade. It is our sixth-grade students who will be asking the questions to the chosen ARISS astronaut. Sixth graders have just completed an extensive set of lessons about the ISS, its mission, the country partners who sponsor and keep the ISS going, its components, astronauts, some of the science happening on board, and a little bit about astronaut training. Earlier in the school year, they learned about our Universe, its history, the formation and the lives of stars and galaxies, our Sun and its solar system and Earth's place in all of this. Students are very excited to have this opportunity to speak with an ISS astronaut. In our classes, we often follow the path of the ISS, and we watch the Earth from the High Definition Earth Viewing System (HDEV) cameras placed on the ISS. We watched today's Soyuz TMA-19M launch and ISS docking, bringing the three new crew members for Expedition 46. We have also had some very successful ISS viewing parties where students returned to school with their parents after dark to view the ISS when it passed overhead. We know you astronauts can't see us, but we waved anyway! Thank you ARISS, NASA, ESA and all the ISS partners, our ARISS helpers Charlie Sufana and David Taylor, and all the astronauts who have participated in this great program which gives so many students a glimpse into and a personal connection with the science of space exploration and communication, on Earth and in space! Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What is your favorite ISS food? Do you try food/meals from other astronaut teams? 2. Is the oxygen you breathe on the ISS recycled, made or brought up by supply missions? 3. Does the ISS make noise? What causes the noise and how do you deal with it? 4. On the ISS, do you eat more or less than you did on Earth? What types of fresh food do you get from the supply missions? 5. What fun activities do you do in space? 6. How do you wash your clothes? What is the room temperature on the ISS? 7. What was the strangest experience you've been through in space? 8. Do you get to bring one or more personal possessions to the ISS for your time in space? What did you bring? 9. What inspired you to be an astronaut? When did you realize this? 10. How is sleeping in microgravity different in space? Is it a restful sleep? 11. What are some dangers of being on the ISS? 12. Are you on Twitter? Would you be able to send out a tweet either saying hello to us, or saying that you spoke to FWHMS here in Blackstone Massachusetts? 13. What type of tools do you use on a spacewalk? Where do you keep them while working? 14. What jobs or tasks do you do daily on the ISS? 15. What is your favorite place to be on the ISS? Why? 16. How long does it take for an astronaut to regain their strength, muscle, and bone health once they are back here on Earth? 17. I am a seventh grader. I choose a virtual middle school course called Space Station Academy. In this course we learned about how scientists study Earth from space and how the human body reacts to space in microgravity. I want to know how your body reacted when you first went into space. Did you get a bad headward fluid shift (space headache) or have the feeling of nausea? 18. I know astronauts bones become more fragile the longer they are in space due to the lack gravity, so you exercise extensively each day to counteract that. Do your bones feel any weaker or different now that you have been up for a few weeks? 19. Will popcorn pop in space? Do you have popcorn as a snack on the ISS? 20. Is there anything from Earth that you miss because you can't get it or you can't accomplish it on the ISS? 21. How much free time do you get? What do you do with your free time? 22. T. Peake - How will your London marathon run on the ISS be different than running in London? How will it be similar? 23. Have you or your fellow astronauts ever been injured in space? What would happen if someone became seriously injured or became ill? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK, direct via GB1SAN The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Fri, 08Jan2016, 08:47 UTC ARISS is an international educational outreach program partnering the volunteer support and leadership from AMSAT and IARU societies around the world with the ISS space agencies partners: NASA, Russian Space Agency, ESA, CNES, JAXA, and CSA. ARISS offers an opportunity for students to experience the excitement of Amateur Radio by talking directly with crewmembers on-board the International Space Station. Teachers, parents and communities see, first hand, how Amateur Radio and crewmembers on ISS can energize youngsters' interest in science, technology, and learning. Further information on the ARISS program visit the ARISS website at ariss.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From k7trkradio at charter.net Sun Jan 3 23:53:44 2016 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:53:44 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Some DUMB hints about using SatPC32 computer aided tuning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101d14681$fb258280$f1708780$@charter.net> Good stuff, Burns. Also, for those that use HRD, remember, SATPC32 will not make CAT connection while HRD is running. (If you wanted to view the better graphics that are in the Sat portion of HRD, you can start and run the Sat program by itself without starting HRD. Just pull the shortcut from windows) 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Burns Fisher Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 12:13 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Some DUMB hints about using SatPC32 computer aided tuning I had CAT working once upon a time, but recently it has not. I don't know what I changed when, but I could not get it to work at all until I spent several hours trying different things, and finally found the (duh) really dumb problems. 1) I have a TS2000. I'm pretty sure that I saw somewhere that you have to check the +12VRTS check box in Setup/Radio to make it work for the latest version of SatPC32. I'm not sure if it has to be, but it works when it IS checked. 2) Check the serial cable. I had the right one, and knew that I did (it generally wants straight through, not null modem). But apparently somewhere along the line a connector had come loose. Tighten them all down! 3) And here is the penultimate killer: In the Setup/Radio dialog box, when you check your manufacturer, you'll see to the right a "Model" label and a pull down to say what model of radio you have. But that "label" is actually a pulldown too. Select "baudrate" instead of "Model" and SET THE BAUDRATE. (I was sure I had seen it somewhere and that I knew what I had set it too. But I was wrong). 4) The ultimate killer in my case: The TS2000 needs to be power cycled after you change its baudrate (menu 56 for those who care) before it takes effect! I hope this helps someone! 73, Burns W2BFJ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wageners at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 01:52:47 2016 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 19:52:47 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Some DUMB hints about using SatPC32 computer aided tuning In-Reply-To: <001101d14681$fb258280$f1708780$@charter.net> References: <001101d14681$fb258280$f1708780$@charter.net> Message-ID: Hi Ted, Why would you want to? HRD is far inferior to SatPC32 for satellite radio control. There is no reason to run HRD and SatPC32. Everything you need for satellite radio operation is and can be done by SatPC32. Now, in case you actually have a reason to run them both at the same time.... YES..... you can do it with a virtual serial port emulator like VSPE. Running just fine (for testing purposes only, since I really don't need or use HRD ever for satellites) on my IC-9100, Also, if you really like "pretty" graphics, I would recommend Nova for Windows (if you are limited to Windows). For me, an OSX user, MacDoppler rules! It is the best of SatPC32 for windows on a Mac and more. Hope this helps, Stefan, VE4NSA On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Ted wrote: > Good stuff, Burns. > > Also, for those that use HRD, remember, SATPC32 will not make CAT > connection > while HRD is running. (If you wanted to view the better graphics that are > in > the Sat portion of HRD, you can start and run the Sat program by itself > without starting HRD. Just pull the shortcut from windows) > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Burns > Fisher > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 12:13 PM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Some DUMB hints about using SatPC32 computer aided > tuning > > I had CAT working once upon a time, but recently it has not. I don't know > what I changed when, but I could not get it to work at all until I spent > several hours trying different things, and finally found the (duh) really > dumb problems. > > 1) I have a TS2000. I'm pretty sure that I saw somewhere that you have to > check the +12VRTS check box in Setup/Radio to make it work for the latest > version of SatPC32. I'm not sure if it has to be, but it works when it IS > checked. > > 2) Check the serial cable. I had the right one, and knew that I did (it > generally wants straight through, not null modem). But apparently > somewhere > along the line a connector had come loose. Tighten them all down! > > 3) And here is the penultimate killer: In the Setup/Radio dialog box, when > you check your manufacturer, you'll see to the right a "Model" label and a > pull down to say what model of radio you have. But that "label" is > actually > a pulldown too. Select "baudrate" instead of "Model" and SET THE BAUDRATE. > (I was sure I had seen it somewhere and that I knew what I had set it too. > But I was wrong). > > 4) The ultimate killer in my case: The TS2000 needs to be power cycled > after you change its baudrate (menu 56 for those who care) before it takes > effect! > > I hope this helps someone! > > 73, > > Burns W2BFJ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k6fw1 at verizon.net Mon Jan 4 05:01:08 2016 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank Westphal) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 21:01:08 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 For Sale on QRZ.com Message-ID: <5689FC94.7020807@verizon.net> ICOM IC-9100 Purchased August 2015. Mint condition. Less than 10 hours use. 7 months left on ICOM warranty optional 3 & 6 kHz roofing filters installed all original packing, manual, hand mic, connectors etc. included $2195 shipped (CONUS only via FedEx ground) PayPal only Marc, WC1Xwc1x at arrl.net From martha at amsat.org Mon Jan 4 16:47:06 2016 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 11:47:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Contribution for IRA Message-ID: Please note that Congress changed the rules last week. Now up to $100,000 tax-free direct payouts from IRAs to charity can be made from individuals age 70 1/2 and older. -- 73- Martha- AMSAT Manager From david.xe3dx at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 20:18:04 2016 From: david.xe3dx at gmail.com (David Maciel (XE3DX)) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 14:18:04 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ST-2 Tracker with G-5500 Message-ID: Hello friends of the group, someone worked the LNB Tracker ST-2 Fox Delta Project, with the Yaesu Rotor G-5500. please comment on the experience and work. Thanks and good health for you and your family. David Maciel XE3DX *http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/ * *david.xe3dx at gmail.com * From peter at m3php.com Mon Jan 4 20:30:57 2016 From: peter at m3php.com (Peter Goodhall) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 20:30:57 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] ST-2 Tracker with G-5500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi David I've been using the ST2 with the G-5500 rotator for the last 3 years without any problem. Peter, 2E0SQL On 4 January 2016 at 20:18, David Maciel (XE3DX) wrote: > Hello friends of the group, someone worked the LNB Tracker ST-2 Fox Delta > Project, with the Yaesu Rotor G-5500. please comment on the experience and > work. > > Thanks and good health for you and your family. > > > > > > David Maciel XE3DX > > *http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/ * > > *david.xe3dx at gmail.com * > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL From johnag9d at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 21:31:11 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (John Spasojevich) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:31:11 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS AUDIO for Friday's Contact Message-ID: Please join us in listening to the ISS contact with participants at the *Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom *on Friday 8 January. AOS is anticipated at 08:47 UTC The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a DIRECT between GB1SS and GB1SAN in the United Kingdom. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. This contact is the first of Astronaut Tom Peakes' Principia Mission Audio from this contact will be available at: https://principia.ariss.org/ click on Live Webcast Audio from the Principia website will be fed for those unable to join into the: EchoLink *AMSAT* (101377) Server IRLP Node 9010 Discovery Reflector Audio on EchoLink / IRLP is dependent on the Principia website Please note that on Echolink /IRLP there are manual breaks approximately every third question. Connected repeaters may time out. ** Contact times are approximate. If the ISS executes a reboost or other manoeuvre, the AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) time may alter by a few minutes ** 73, John - AG9D ARISS Audio From AJ9N at aol.com Mon Jan 4 22:39:05 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 17:39:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-04 22:30 UTC Message-ID: <2a54dc.2644d0c9.43bc4e89@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-04 22:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Frederick W. Harnett Middle School, Blackstone, Massachusetts, telebridge via K6DUE The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Tue 2016-01-05 17:42:06 UTC 81 deg Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK, direct via GB1SAN The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-01-08 08:47:47 UTC 83 deg Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy, telebridge via VK5ZAI (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN (***) Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-13 11:35:44 UTC 33 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 114 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-04 22:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1015. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 980. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2015-12-09 07:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From mr.soup12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 05:05:28 2016 From: mr.soup12 at gmail.com (Oliver Krystal) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 23:05:28 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Orbit 70107 Message-ID: <568B4F18.3000206@gmail.com> Sorry about the poor first attempt. I was operating orbit # 70107, the 0429UTC pass of SO-50. Callsign is KD9CFO and my gridsquare is EN51ju. I only caught one call, but it was not the one that I heard repeat my call. Thanks for acknowledging my presence (if you're on the list). From johnki4ro at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 15:58:10 2016 From: johnki4ro at gmail.com (John KI4RO) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 10:58:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM97 Activation Message-ID: N8IUP has asked if I can activate EM97. I will be doing that on Saturday, 9 Jan on SO 50 @ 2044Z. It will be my first time trying to activate another grid square so please be gentle hi hi -- 73 John KI4RO From Brandon.Shirley at sdl.usu.edu Tue Jan 5 19:45:07 2016 From: Brandon.Shirley at sdl.usu.edu (Brandon Shirley) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:45:07 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] New Distribution of Core Concepts Survey Message-ID: To whom it may concern, Dr. Stephen Clyde & Brandon Shirley in the Department of Computer Science at Utah State University are conducting a set of surveys as part of Brandon's PhD research to find out more about software development practices and attitudes in the space industry. You have received this email because of your interest in or involvement with the space industry. We greatly need your participation. We are asking that anyone that has insight into in software development that relates to space industry participate in this survey. The beginning of the survey has background questions that will give context to your responses. The survey set is currently made of six surveys, listed below, that will be distributed over the course of a few months. You have a chance at receiving a gift card for participating in this survey as well as a chance at receiving a gift card for your overall participation in the entire survey set. There will be seven drawings for gift cards: one drawing for each survey and one overall drawing for the survey set. For each survey-specific drawing, two participants in that survey will be selected at random to receive a $25 gift card. For the overall drawing, two participants from the pool of all participants of any survey will be selected to receive a $200 gift card. At the end of this survey, you will be redirected to a webpage that asks for an email address. You must enter a valid email address to be considered for this surveys drawing or the overall survey set drawing. Each survey stands on its own: opting to not participate in one survey does not exclude you in any way from participating in any subsequent surveys. Likewise, participating in one survey does not obligate you to participate in any subsequent surveys. The surveys are as follows and will be distributed in the following order: 1) SISDPA : Core Concepts 2) SISDPA : Development Preferences 3) SISDPA : Open Systems Architecture and Modularity 4) SISDPA : Security 5) SISDPA : Reuse, Interoperability, Portability, Code Complexity 6) SISDPA : Network You can you use the link below to access the Core Concepts survey. We greatly need your participation and your responses to the surveys will make a meaningful contribution to this research while allowing you an opportunity to reflect on you current software development practices and how these practices affect the projects on which you have and will work. This survey set will be used to determine the path of future research, as well as increase the body of knowledge that relates to software development practices and attitudes in the space industry. You can access the Core Concepts survey of the Space Industry Software Development Practices and Attitudes survey set using the following link: https://usu.co1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_8jp3RTKGUExYpQF You can copy and paste the following URL into your address bar. We plan to send out one reminder email a week until the survey closes. The duration of the survey will be two to three weeks. You will receive the reminder email regardless of where or not you have participated in a survey. The subject of the email will read "Reminder Email..." for these weekly reminders, and "New Distribution..." at the start of a new survey. See http://brandon.bluezone.usu.edu/Files/LOISpaceSoftwareAttitudes_Final.pdf for the Letter of Intent (LOI) that explains your role as a participant should you choose to participate. If you have questions please direct them to Brandon Shirley, via email b.l.s at aggiemail.usu.edu, the LOI lists additional contact information. Once the survey set is closed, we will analyze the data, and generate results. We will seek publication of these results in a conference or journal. This is a legitimate request for you participation, if you have any questions about the validity of this email you may refer to the Letter of Intent, contact Brandon Shirley, via email b.l.s at aggiemail.usu.edu, or Utah State University's Internal Review Board administrator at (435) 797 - 0567 or email irb at usu.edu. Note that the Core Concepts Survey was previously distributed. If you participated in the survey already then please visit the survey link and you will be given the opportunity to provide your email for entry into the Core Concepts Survey drawing as well as the overall survey set drawing. V/R, Brandon Shirley Mobile: 435.994.9165 From ec4tr.luis at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 19:53:24 2016 From: ec4tr.luis at gmail.com (EC4TR Luis) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:53:24 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" Message-ID: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> Hi all One guy, is selling this filter, http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur I am thinking in the possibility of using it for desensing problem with FO-29. I`m pretty sure it would work fine, but the question is, would it pass dc power for feeding the preamp? Somebody knows it? I asked them via email, but not answer. 73 Luis EC4TR From on4hf at telenet.be Tue Jan 5 20:01:23 2016 From: on4hf at telenet.be (Eric Knaps, ON4HF) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 21:01:23 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" In-Reply-To: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> References: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <568C2113.5020104@telenet.be> Hello Luis. If you put the filter between preamp and antenna then your preamp gets his DC power. I have done it here that way. I use a Diamond MX-72A filter and no more desensing here anymore. https://twitter.com/ON4HF/status/660425903869206529 73, Eric. Amateur radio station ON4HF Satellite manager UBA Member Amsat-NA #39595 Member Amsat-UK Member Amsat-ON http://www.on4hf.be Op 5/01/2016 om 20:53 schreef EC4TR Luis: > Hi all > One guy, is selling this filter, > http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur > I am thinking in the possibility of using it for desensing problem > with FO-29. > I`m pretty sure it would work fine, but the question is, would it pass > dc power for feeding the preamp? > Somebody knows it? > I asked them via email, but not answer. > 73 Luis > EC4TR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Jan 5 20:01:41 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 15:01:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" In-Reply-To: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> References: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: Luis, A cheaper diplexer would suffice. That looks like it has very strong out of band rejection, but for a simple desense problem. you don't need anything too fancy. You would put the diplexer between the 70cm antenna and preamp, so there is no need to pass DC through the diplexer. See here: http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=2136 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:53 PM, EC4TR Luis wrote: > Hi all > One guy, is selling this filter, > http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur > I am thinking in the possibility of using it for desensing problem with > FO-29. > I`m pretty sure it would work fine, but the question is, would it pass dc > power for feeding the preamp? > Somebody knows it? > I asked them via email, but not answer. > 73 Luis > EC4TR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w5pfg at amsat.org Tue Jan 5 20:07:57 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 14:07:57 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and DualBand Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" In-Reply-To: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> References: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <568C229D.4040609@amsat.org> A common model used in the US to eliminate desense is the Comet CF-4160N. I'm not sure of its European availability but they are inexpensive enough a US dealer should be able to send it to you for reasonable shipping. I have sent DCV through mine to power preamps in the past. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/5/2016 13:53, EC4TR Luis wrote: > Hi all > One guy, is selling this filter, > http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur > I am thinking in the possibility of using it for desensing problem with > FO-29. > I`m pretty sure it would work fine, but the question is, would it pass > dc power for feeding the preamp? > Somebody knows it? > I asked them via email, but not answer. > 73 Luis > EC4TR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bryan at kl7cn.net Tue Jan 5 20:47:27 2016 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:47:27 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] request for info on North American grids active via satellite in 2015 In-Reply-To: <73E7A01C-E401-4823-9011-9BFC15BEFD55@kl7cn.net> References: <73E7A01C-E401-4823-9011-9BFC15BEFD55@kl7cn.net> Message-ID: <3305BD9F-C611-4356-A83D-3C4CBEBF8791@kl7cn.net> Please expand my list by one: CM88 DM13 DM05 DM06 CN80 CN84 CN74 CN75 A very exotic grid, but not really. ;) -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 On Dec 27, 2015, at 14:59, Bryan Green wrote: CM88 DM05 DM06 CN80 CN84 CN74 CN75 Home Grid: CM98 Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 26, 2015, at 19:03, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm trying to put together some data to illustrate how many grids around > North America (including Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean) that > have been active on the satellites in 2015. I asked for this information > on Twitter earlier today, and I'll make the same request here. If you have > operated from grids away from home, please send me the list of grids you > have worked from. Please include your home grid in the list. I would like > to make a map of grids that were available via satellite during 2015, and > possibly scribble an article for the AMSAT Journal as well. > > Besides my own activity in 2015, I have lists from the following stations: > > AA5PK > KA4H > KX9X > N8HM > NP4JV > W5PFG > > I will generate a map based on all submissions I receive, and probably > some other maps based on the lists I receive from other stations. Even if > your list is nothing more than one other grid besides your home grid, > every submission is appreciated. > > I am hoping to have this information by 15 January 2016, so I can then make > the maps and write that article about which grids have been on the air > during 2015 before getting too far into 2016. > > Thanks in advance, and 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Wed Jan 6 00:40:05 2016 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 00:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" In-Reply-To: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> References: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1659180146.522081.1452040805973.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The cavity filter will not pass DC. From: EC4TR Luis To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; satdx-bb at star-com.net Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:53 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" Hi all One guy, is selling this filter, http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur I am thinking in the possibility of using it for desensing problem with FO-29. I`m pretty sure it would work fine, but the question is, would it pass dc power for feeding the preamp? Somebody knows it? I asked them via email, but not answer. 73 Luis EC4TR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From AJ9N at aol.com Wed Jan 6 09:13:17 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 04:13:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-06 08:00 UTC Message-ID: <379fc8.58287a98.43be34ac@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-06 08:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Frederick W. Harnett Middle School, Blackstone, Massachusetts, telebridge via K6DUE The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact was successful: Tue 2016-01-05 17:42:06 UTC 81 deg (***) Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK, direct via GB1SAN The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-01-08 08:47:47 UTC 83 deg Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-13 11:35:44 UTC 33 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 114 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-06 08:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1016. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 981. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-06 08:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Wed Jan 6 14:22:52 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (Jeff A. Boyd) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:22:52 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Christmas present arrived! Message-ID: <20160106232252.45DA.63087B45@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> My AMSAT membership package finally arrived today. Thanks to Martha for all the hard work! (And no thanks to the USPS for taking eleventillion years to get it here.) The laminated frequency guide card alone is worth the price, since I can never keep track of inverting SSB transponder frequencies in my head (the ham equivalent of not being able to tell left from right) so this removes all the guesswork. Also, my member number, 39693, is a palindrome. -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Wed Jan 6 16:27:00 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 11:27:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK on 08 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:47 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between GB1SS and GB1SAN. The contact should be audible over portions of the UK and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Sandringham School is a high performing coeducational non-selective and non-denominational secondary school, consistently graded Outstanding by Ofsted and being in the top 100 highest performing non-selective schools in England for the past 3 years. The school is a specialist science college, arts college and leading edge provider. It is also designated as one of the first 'World Class Schools' in the country. The school operates a significant amount of community and outreach activities, is an Initial Teacher Training provider and runs a Teaching School Alliance for Hertfordshire. Sandringham is also a "Gifted and Talented" lead school and International School, with significant international activities taking place throughout the year. The school also coordinates National Initiatives with the Education Endowment Foundation and has a significant reputation in the country for delivering outstanding comprehensive education. The total number of students on roll is 1300 and expanding, with children from age 11 - 19, including a very large and academic sixth form. The catchment area is local, serving the needs of St. Albans and Wheathampstead although sixth form students join the school from further away if they meet the entrance criteria. We have over 100 teachers in the school including specialist teachers of computing science and three female physics teachers all of whom have a specialist interest in space and astronomy. In addition, the headeacher is a very active radio amateur who is extremely supportive of this contact. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows 1. What do you think Isaac Newton would say if he knew that the name of your mission was based on his book? 2. If you had a liquid hydrocarbon in space would the intermolecular forces be strong enough to hold it in a ball of liquid? 3. How are rapid cooling of liquid metals performed in the EML experiment? 4. The EML is being used to study alloy structure and formation. What are the benefits of using space as a scientific platform? 5. What would happen to a helium balloon aboard the ISS? 6. With the EXPOSE-R2 experiment, are you able to predict if any samples will be able to survive outside in space? 7. What's the most exciting thing that's happened to you so far on the ISS? 8. With your view of earth, is there one thing which stands out visually? 9. We hear that you are planning on driving the Mars Rover from space, how does that work? 10. Does gravity affect time and aging? 11. If you could visit any planet in the solar system (which isn't gas), which planet would you visit and why? 12. How does your body feel when you are weightless? 13. What did you bring with you to the ISS? 14. Is the sun more powerful in space? 15. Did you want to be an astronaut when you were a boy and is it like you thought it would be? 16. As you are communicating with us, do you get the chance to communicate with your family? 17. If you could send any message out into space what would it be? 18. What do you think the hardest adjustment in coming back down to Earth will be? 19. What is the most amazing thing you have seen in space? 20. Where do you stand on the theory of a multiverse existence and do you think it is possible to find any evidence for or against this in space? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado "Benedetto Croce", Civate, Italy, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-13 11:35:44 UTC 33 deg ARISS is an international educational outreach program partnering the volunteer support and leadership from AMSAT and IARU societies around the world with the ISS space agencies partners: NASA, Russian Space Agency, ESA, CNES, JAXA, and CSA. ARISS offers an opportunity for students to experience the excitement of Amateur Radio by talking directly with crewmembers on-board the International Space Station. Teachers, parents and communities see, first hand, how Amateur Radio and crewmembers on ISS can energize youngsters' interest in science, technology, and learning. Further information on the ARISS program visit the ARISS website at ariss.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From normanlizeth at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 16:37:34 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Lizeth Norman) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 11:37:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar powered mobile satellite operations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ya got most of reality. Missed a whole bunch of life lessons learned by living it! Will be happy to fill in the details. You buy dinner, I cover the tip, chain restaurants are out. The paradigm shift occurred and is now reachable by Joe Average. Take the Auto-Train four times yearly, continuing to upstate NY. This will be the last trip powered by gasoline. Two other individuals are using my model. A physical chemist and an MD. Good company for a grunt. Our Leaf would make it. Too long charging, though. If you want to send me a personal message, my email works. I even check the spam box. On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > Here are a few more solar factoids (for your mobile satellite operations): > > The solar panel area to fully power the average American commuter car (EV) > for the average 12,000 miles per year is about 150 sqft (a 3 kW array) > > Amazingly, the area of a typical car parking space is also about 150 sqft. > > So all one needs to do is cover their car parking space with solar panels > and have free local transportation energy for LIFE. And amazingly enough, > each car in America has at least 5 parking spaces for it. One at home, one > on the street, one at work, one at church, one at shopping and sports > venus, etc... so all you need is just one to be covered in solar panels > and we have carbon free local transportation (12,000 miles a year for free > and for l life). > > See: http://insideevs.com/design-relationship-between-electric-cars-solar/ > > In addition, The supply chain from the roof of the carport (also providing > shade to the car below it) is about 30 feet and is over 85% efficient, and > you own it and no one can take it away or change the costs on you at any > time. > > Compare this to the 8000 mile supply chain from oil well to your gas tank, > where there are dozens of risky greedy players in the middle and where only > 20% of the energy actually gets to your car. > > So it is no coincidence that now almost every car manufacturer is seeing > the light and is now building an EV (there are over 30 on the market > now*). They may not be advertising them because they make higher profit > margins on selling gas cars to gullible buyers, but they are positioning > themselves for when consumers wake up and also see the light for their > local transportation needs. > > BMW has already said that all of their cars will be electric (or hybrid) > within 10 years. > > For your mobile satellite station, however, this does not say to cover the > roof of your car with solar (unless it is a flat RV or van) because the > mobile satellite station is only in use about an hour a day while the > parking SPACE with SOLAR panels is operating sun-up-to-sun-down and flat > panels cost only 10% of ones that can bend a little. Plus the full > dimensions of a "parking space" is actually more than 10 times the surface > area of the small center portion of the roof of a car. So the cost > effectiveness of solar on the car is about 10% of 10% or about 1% the > effectiveness of having them on your car port. > > Besides, keeping the roof clear for antennas is more important anyway. > > * http://evadc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/EVInfoSheet-20150101.pdf > > Bob, Wb4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jerry.tuyls at telenet.be Wed Jan 6 16:49:40 2016 From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be (jerry.tuyls at telenet.be) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:49:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" In-Reply-To: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> References: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <910968599.131683333.1452098980277.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Hello Luis The best way is to put the filter BEFORE the signal goes into the preamp.There are plenty of "cheap" diplexers, but if i were you, just make it yourself. You only need 50% part of the diplexer,so in a small weatherproof box build your own filter for it. On my side i have no problem with desense, MASPRO WHS-32N on 2m boom 7m high. BUT all is well grounded here. I have also homemade crossyagis on the roof,at 12m high,but no pol.switching there; gonna change them into X-quads with pol.switch, because the Maspro is too big for my roof. For my /p antenne i made myself a diplexer, but going to split it into 2 smaller boxes, 1 per antenne, LPF and HPF seperated. 73's Jerry,ON4CJQ ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "EC4TR Luis" Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org, satdx-bb at star-com.net Verzonden: Dinsdag 5 januari 2016 20:53:24 Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" Hi all One guy, is selling this filter, http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur I am thinking in the possibility of using it for desensing problem with FO-29. I`m pretty sure it would work fine, but the question is, would it pass dc power for feeding the preamp? Somebody knows it? I asked them via email, but not answer. 73 Luis EC4TR _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From james at wx4tv.com Wed Jan 6 17:05:57 2016 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 12:05:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for 1906Z SO-50 Pass Message-ID: Good Morning, Hope (KM4IPF) will be presenting at the Youth Forums at the Orlando Hamcation and Dayton Hamvention. She gives her first practice presentation tonight at the Orlando OARC meeting and gives another one again tomorrow at the Lake Monroe LMARS meeting. She is putting the finishing touches on her PowerPoint right now, and we find that we don't have any good video of her actually working contacts on a pass. Weather permitting (it's a cold 70 degrees and rainy here in Florida), we will shoot video of her working the 1906Z pass this afternoon. If there is not a rare grid on the pass, would anyone who can make the pass please listen for her and work her for the video? Remember, she is 9 years old and still learning to do it all on her own, so if you could give callsigns and grids a couple of times when you work her, it would be appreciated! If you're in Central Florida, come hear her tonight or tomorrow, and if you make the hamfests, be sure to attend the Youth Forums. The kids who speak at them are the future of our hobby and they typically give some incredible talks. Know in advance that your QSO may end up in the talk! Thanks and 73, James Lea - WX4TV Sent from my iPhone From james at wx4tv.com Wed Jan 6 21:30:11 2016 From: james at wx4tv.com (James Lea - WX4TV) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:30:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] It's so easy... Message-ID: <609134A9-186C-4EA9-AC13-89B1158AA019@wx4tv.com> ?a little girl can do it! https://youtu.be/13COZU957IU From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jan 6 22:42:01 2016 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 22:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Sandringham School students prepare for ARISS contact with Space Festival Week References: <1144704111.1816281.1452120121829.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1144704111.1816281.1452120121829.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Sandringham School Space Festival Week Events https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1uGINiJk1_CczF5YUw2bHd1S28/view Video of Sandringham Students in Ham Radio Buildathon http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/06/students-in-ham-radio-buildathon/ ARISS contact planned for Sandringham School in St. Albans http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/05/ariss-contact-planned-for-school-in-st-albans/ ARISS Sandringham School contact ? how to get involved http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/05/iss-school-contact-how-to-get-involved/ Sandringham School students pass amateur radio exam http://amsat-uk.org/2015/12/30/tim-peake-sandringham-school/ Huffington Post report: Schoolgirl Is Going To Operate A Radio Station So She Can Call Tim Peake From Earth http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/05/this-schoolgirl-is-going-to-operate-a-radio-station-and-call-tim-peake-from-earth_n_8915462.html 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From ec4tr.luis at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 23:09:53 2016 From: ec4tr.luis at gmail.com (EC4TR Luis) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 00:09:53 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" In-Reply-To: <910968599.131683333.1452098980277.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> References: <568C1F34.7030407@gmail.com> <910968599.131683333.1452098980277.JavaMail.root@telenet.be> Message-ID: Thank you very much to all. I see that the tips are unanimous regarding the use of a duplexer. So far I was reluctant to use it not to introduce lost, since I use my installation of VHF / UHF local contests I have a "D original" duplexer that does not use and I've tested at work with good results. I will not be very difficult to climb the tower and place it just before the preamp. I'll tell you that this was me. 73 Luis 2016-01-06 17:49 GMT+01:00 : > Hello Luis > > The best way is to put the filter BEFORE the signal goes into the > preamp.There are plenty of "cheap" diplexers, but if i were you, just > make it yourself. You only need 50% part of the diplexer,so in a small > weatherproof box build your own filter for it. > On my side i have no problem with desense, MASPRO WHS-32N on 2m boom 7m > high. BUT all is well grounded here. I have also homemade crossyagis on the > roof,at 12m high,but no pol.switching there; gonna change them into X-quads > with pol.switch, because the Maspro is too big for my roof. > For my /p antenne i made myself a diplexer, but going to split it into 2 > smaller boxes, 1 per antenne, LPF and HPF seperated. > > > 73's > > Jerry,ON4CJQ > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: "EC4TR Luis" > Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org, satdx-bb at star-com.net > Verzonden: Dinsdag 5 januari 2016 20:53:24 > Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] Info needed "European 145 and 435 MHz Diplexer and > Dual Band Filter (Model: DCI-145-435-DX-DB)" > > Hi all > One guy, is selling this filter, > http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Products&SubSection=Amateur > I am thinking in the possibility of using it for desensing problem with > FO-29. > I`m pretty sure it would work fine, but the question is, would it pass > dc power for feeding the preamp? > Somebody knows it? > I asked them via email, but not answer. > 73 Luis > EC4TR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wa7eth at frontier.com Wed Jan 6 23:53:52 2016 From: wa7eth at frontier.com (wa7eth at frontier.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 23:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for AO-73 CW contacts References: <1060735922.987386.1452124432808.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1060735922.987386.1452124432808.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I will be looking for some cw contacts on AO-73 this evening about 0503 - 0514Z - hoping to find some folks interested in CW .....I will be transmitting on uplink 145.960 ?and coming down wherever AO-73 decides it wants to put me. ?Hoping to hear some stations. ? ?73'...Ed ?WA7ETH From saguaroastro at cox.net Thu Jan 7 00:07:07 2016 From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:07:07 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for 1906Z SO-50 Pass In-Reply-To: <2h651s0224F0Vt701h6JeA> References: <2h651s0224F0Vt701h6JeA> Message-ID: <004501d148df$59019d80$0b04d880$@net> Good for her! I hope the Hamcation posts video of her presentation. Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org Thunderbird Radio Club www.w7tbc.org 623-572-0713 623-203-4121 (cell) SaguaroAstro at cox.net -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of James Lea - WX4TV Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:06 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Cc: Carole Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for 1906Z SO-50 Pass Good Morning, Hope (KM4IPF) will be presenting at the Youth Forums at the Orlando Hamcation and Dayton Hamvention. She gives her first practice presentation tonight at the Orlando OARC meeting and gives another one again tomorrow at the Lake Monroe LMARS meeting. She is putting the finishing touches on her PowerPoint right now, and we find that we don't have any good video of her actually working contacts on a pass. Weather permitting (it's a cold 70 degrees and rainy here in Florida), we will shoot video of her working the 1906Z pass this afternoon. If there is not a rare grid on the pass, would anyone who can make the pass please listen for her and work her for the video? Remember, she is 9 years old and still learning to do it all on her own, so if you could give callsigns and grids a couple of times when you work her, it would be appreciated! If you're in Central Florida, come hear her tonight or tomorrow, and if you make the hamfests, be sure to attend the Youth Forums. The kids who speak at them are the future of our hobby and they typically give some incredible talks. Know in advance that your QSO may end up in the talk! Thanks and 73, James Lea - WX4TV Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa7eth at frontier.com Thu Jan 7 00:32:14 2016 From: wa7eth at frontier.com (wa7eth at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 00:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 contacts correction References: <862799743.1021637.1452126734304.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <862799743.1021637.1452126734304.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Senior moment. ?I will be receiving on 145.960. ? ? Sheesh........that's what happens when you get old ! ! ! ?Sorry for the confusion everyone. ?I will be looking for CW contacts around 145.960 and may move as suggested. ? Thanks for your patience!.73'...Ed ?WA7ETH From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Thu Jan 7 03:57:12 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 03:57:12 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ Thunderbird Hamfest in Phoenix AZ, Saturday morning (9 January) Message-ID: Hi! Weather permitting, I will have an AMSAT booth at the Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club's annual hamfest in Phoenix, Arizona. The hamfest site is a church parking lot, west of the I-17 freeway and south of Bell Road. More information about the hamfest is available at: http://www.w7tbc.org/content.php?348-hamfest It has been raining here in Phoenix for the past couple of days, and the rain should continue through Friday. Current forecasts show no rain on Friday evening and Saturday morning, so this should hopefully ensure a rain-free hamfest. I will try to post more information on Friday evening and/or Saturday morning here on the -BB, and I will certainly post updates on my @WD9EWK Twitter feed. If you do not use Twitter, you can read my Twitter feed using a web browser at http://twitter.com/WD9EWK During the hamfest, WD9EWK will be on the air demonstrating satellite operation. If you hear WD9EWK, please call and be a part of the demonstrations. The hamfest site is in grid DM33. After the hamfest, WD9EWK QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World. If you would like to receive a QSL card for any QSOs made during the hamfest, please e-mail me directly with the QSO details. No need to first send me a QSL card or SASE. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From Saguaroastro at cox.net Thu Jan 7 05:23:08 2016 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 22:23:08 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ Thunderbird Hamfest in Phoenix AZ, Saturday morning (9 January) Message-ID: <2f3rvywy2p4bcdx0uucio6dd.1452144188681@email.android.com> Patrick, I'll see you there, and like last year I'll be at Yuma as well. Happy to help you man th a AMSAT booth there as well. 73 Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On January 6, 2016, at 20:57, "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" wrote: Hi! Weather permitting, I will have an AMSAT booth at the Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club's annual hamfest in Phoenix, Arizona. The hamfest site is a church parking lot, west of the I-17 freeway and south of Bell Road. More information about the hamfest is available at: http://www.w7tbc.org/content.php?348-hamfest It has been raining here in Phoenix for the past couple of days, and the rain should continue through Friday. Current forecasts show no rain on Friday evening and Saturday morning, so this should hopefully ensure a rain-free hamfest. I will try to post more information on Friday evening and/or Saturday morning here on the -BB, and I will certainly post updates on my @WD9EWK Twitter feed. If you do not use Twitter, you can read my Twitter feed using a web browser at http://twitter.com/WD9EWK During the hamfest, WD9EWK will be on the air demonstrating satellite operation. If you hear WD9EWK, please call and be a part of the demonstrations. The hamfest site is in grid DM33. After the hamfest, WD9EWK QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World. If you would like to receive a QSL card for any QSOs made during the hamfest, please e-mail me directly with the QSO details. No need to first send me a QSL card or SASE. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From PeteW2JV at verizon.net Thu Jan 7 13:39:16 2016 From: PeteW2JV at verizon.net (W2JV) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 08:39:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] HAM RADIO UNIVERSITY- W2JV Message-ID: Hello: It?s that time of year, put away the Holiday leftovers and be part of HAM RADIO UNIVERSITY. We will be celebrating our 17th year with over 30 forums! I will be doing a talk on the history and operation of Amateur Satellite?s, from our exciting beginnings to operating Duplex with todays reasonably priced equipment. If you cant attend please look for me, weather permitting, on all passes in FN30 during the day, thank you. 73 W2JV Peter weather and links From wa4hfn at comcast.net Thu Jan 7 15:47:59 2016 From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (wa4hfn at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] star comm group In-Reply-To: <536978495.149340.1452181571390.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1555929757.150210.1452181679863.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Someone here keeps deleting my post on facebook amsat na ,If this keeps happening I WILL DUMP AMSAT www,starcommgroup.org Check this site out we have 3 awards there that are free to anyone This site supports Amsat NA and the use of the satellites . SO WHO EVER it is that deleted it please contact me wa4hfn at comcast.net and explain your hate for our humble self supporting Amsat support effort. This has offended me Damon Runion WA4HFN em55 wa4hfn at comcast.net From dxdx at optonline.net Thu Jan 7 22:00:01 2016 From: dxdx at optonline.net (Tony) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 17:00:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites Message-ID: <568EDFE1.8020009@optonline.net> All: Managed to decode several 9600 baud satellites in the past couple of weeks: UniSat-6: 437.426 XW-2F: 145.955 CAS-3G: 145.475 Tigersat: 435.000 LO-74: 437.445 Mike's (DK3WN) list of active satellites is a wonderful resource. There's a long list of telemetry software as well. http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535 Thanks Mike... Tony -K2MO From skristof at etczone.net Thu Jan 7 23:11:13 2016 From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 18:11:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites In-Reply-To: <568EDFE1.8020009@optonline.net> References: <568EDFE1.8020009@optonline.net> Message-ID: <6540B85554434C0DBC82E0FD270AB543@StevePC> I try to download and run telemetry programs from DK3WN but I always get the "MSCHRT missing/not registered" error. I've downloaded the VisualBasic6 files, and the Active-X controls from his website. I still get the same message. Can anyone help me with this, please? Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" To: Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:00 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites > All: > > Managed to decode several 9600 baud satellites in the past couple of > weeks: > > UniSat-6: 437.426 > XW-2F: 145.955 > CAS-3G: 145.475 > Tigersat: 435.000 > LO-74: 437.445 > > Mike's (DK3WN) list of active satellites is a wonderful resource. There's > a long list of telemetry software as well. > http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535 > > Thanks Mike... > > Tony -K2MO > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From electricity440 at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 01:03:51 2016 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 17:03:51 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour Message-ID: This is a reminder that the Colorado Amateur Satellite net will begin in 1 hour from now (7PM mountain time Thursday). 6PM Pacific 7PM Mountain 8PM Central 9PM Eastern Please visit us on *AMSATNET.INFO * *IRLP* 9870, the Denver Reflector *ALLSTAR LINK* 40764, direct hookup to the repeater here. 41715, KC9ZHV hub at a data center if I am out of bandwidth. More info on AllStar - amsatnet.info/#node *ECHOLINK* *AMSAT* unless there is an ARISS contact, then go direct to KD0WHB-L *LOCAL RF* 449.625 (-) 141.3 ( W?KU Lookout Mountain) 447.225 (-) 141.3 (The STEM school repeater we set up) 447.850 (-) 141.3 (AC?KQ's repeater where he lives on TOP of saddleback mountain) 147.450 SIMPLEX (Aurora, CO) 446.275 (-) 100.0 Galena St. Local repeater at my house, giving a whopping 5 blocks of great coverage *REMOTE RF* Your Repeater here!, Email me if you want to link in or me to link your echolink or allstar repeater in automatically (no automatic IRLP linking supported) Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp Fri Jan 8 02:24:07 2016 From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:24:07 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites Message-ID: Download and install DK3WN's software and OCX.zip etc. Install vb6sp6 or vb6rt340 for MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, and MSCHRT.OCX etc from the other web sites. How to run Softwares in Windows8.1(64bit) http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/mix3win8.htm JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Jan 8 02:54:27 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:54:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT still going and going... Message-ID: <8fb0d2ad0c1dc43a147bfa842b605b48@mail.gmail.com> PSAT seems alive and well, supporting both APRS digipeating on 145.825 and PSK-31 on 435.350 FM downlink (28 Mhz uplink). I love a satellite that needs no care most of the time (unless some of our other ground stations are doing it and I?m clueless as usual.) Anyway, I just checked the downlink page http://pcsat.findu.com and see a handful of users over the last two weeks since I last checked. Orbit clock ?s#058612? shows 586 orbits and 12 minutes since last reset, and that is about 40 days. I do notice that most telemetry is coming down in the dark (S# sun vectors mostly 0000?s) so it is in the dark over the northern hempiphere these days. But seems to be holding up. http://aprs.org/psat.html Bob, WB4APR From skristof at etczone.net Fri Jan 8 03:01:53 2016 From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 22:01:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AAB28C600E7498DB38B285377467A3E@StevePC> Mineo, Thank you for the reply, but I have downloaded DK3WN software, and the vb6sp6, and the MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, MSCHRT.OCX. The software still does not work on my computer. I get the same "missing/not registered" error message. Is there a specific place that these programs and files should be downloaded into? Should they stay in "Downloads"? Should they go in the "Program" files? Does it make a difference where all the programs are located so that they can find each other? Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mineo Wakita" To: Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites > Download and install DK3WN's software and OCX.zip etc. > Install vb6sp6 or vb6rt340 for MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, > and MSCHRT.OCX etc from the other web sites. > > How to run Softwares in Windows8.1(64bit) > http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/mix3win8.htm > > JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From wouterweg at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 08:55:27 2016 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 09:55:27 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites In-Reply-To: <3AAB28C600E7498DB38B285377467A3E@StevePC> References: <3AAB28C600E7498DB38B285377467A3E@StevePC> Message-ID: Steve, You say you have downloaded vb6sp6 but have you installed it? download from the official MS page is here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5721 What windows are you on? There is an issue preventing it from being installed in win8 and 10 if I read on the web. I am primarily a LINUX user and only have one windows 7 32bit machine. so I can not try it out myself. Wouter PA3WEG On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Steve Kristoff wrote: > Mineo, > Thank you for the reply, but I have downloaded DK3WN software, and the > vb6sp6, and the MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, MSCHRT.OCX. > The software still does not work on my computer. I get the same > "missing/not registered" error message. > Is there a specific place that these programs and files should be > downloaded into? Should they stay in "Downloads"? Should they go in the > "Program" files? > Does it make a difference where all the programs are located so that they > can find each other? > > Steve AI9IN > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mineo Wakita" < > ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp> > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites > > > > Download and install DK3WN's software and OCX.zip etc. >> Install vb6sp6 or vb6rt340 for MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, >> and MSCHRT.OCX etc from the other web sites. >> >> How to run Softwares in Windows8.1(64bit) >> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/mix3win8.htm >> >> JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> Steve Kristoff > skristof at etczone.com > > "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside > yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the > financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New > Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, > Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Fri Jan 8 06:17:43 2016 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:17:43 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites In-Reply-To: <3AAB28C600E7498DB38B285377467A3E@StevePC> References: <3AAB28C600E7498DB38B285377467A3E@StevePC> Message-ID: Hi to All, Also have a look at: http://www.dk3wn.info/files/Manual%20installation%20of%20the%20Visual%20Basic%20Runtime%20files%20on%20W7%2064%20bits.docx There is a document on how to install missing OCX files. 73 Jan PE0SAT On 08-01-2016 04:01, Steve Kristoff wrote: > Mineo, > Thank you for the reply, but I have downloaded DK3WN software, and > the vb6sp6, and the MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, MSCHRT.OCX. > The software still does not work on my computer. I get the same > "missing/not registered" error message. > Is there a specific place that these programs and files should be > downloaded into? Should they stay in "Downloads"? Should they go in > the "Program" files? > Does it make a difference where all the programs are located so that > they can find each other? > > Steve AI9IN > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mineo Wakita" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites > > >> Download and install DK3WN's software and OCX.zip etc. >> Install vb6sp6 or vb6rt340 for MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, >> and MSCHRT.OCX etc from the other web sites. >> >> How to run Softwares in Windows8.1(64bit) >> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/mix3win8.htm >> >> JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > Steve Kristoff > skristof at etczone.com > > "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others > beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined > efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - > Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, > Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, > Illinois, 1924 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp Fri Jan 8 10:13:31 2016 From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:13:31 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites Message-ID: I posted many OCX files in my Dropbox. Please try using the capitalized file if the same file name like MSCHRT20.OCX, COMDLG32.OCX etc. They put in the same folder of DK3WN software. http://www.dropbox.com/sh/y4bhfcljoifv99x/AABsgaq9NXVnyi6XZngeUOQea?dl=0 JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita From mail at mike-rupprecht.de Fri Jan 8 10:52:28 2016 From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:52:28 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301d14a02$ab1f99e0$015ecda0$@de> Hi all, it's better to copy and install the ocx files into the windows/system32 directory. In this way - if you use different directories for the telemetry decoders - you don't need to copy the ocx files into each one. 73 Mike Dk3WN -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Mineo Wakita Gesendet: 08 January 2016 11:14 An: amsat-bb at amsat.org Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites I posted many OCX files in my Dropbox. Please try using the capitalized file if the same file name like MSCHRT20.OCX, COMDLG32.OCX etc. They put in the same folder of DK3WN software. http://www.dropbox.com/sh/y4bhfcljoifv99x/AABsgaq9NXVnyi6XZngeUOQea?dl=0 JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mjohns166 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 8 14:34:23 2016 From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 14:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1068572634.2015470.1452263663341.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35261160 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, January 6, 2016, 10:27, n4csitwo at bellsouth.net wrote: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK on 08 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:47 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between GB1SS and GB1SAN. The contact should be audible over portions of the UK and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Sandringham School is a high performing coeducational non-selective and non-denominational secondary school, consistently graded Outstanding by Ofsted and being in the top 100 highest performing non-selective schools in England for the past 3 years. The school is a specialist science college, arts college and leading edge provider. It is also designated as one of the first 'World Class Schools' in the country. The school operates a significant amount of community and outreach activities, is an Initial Teacher Training provider and runs a Teaching School Alliance for Hertfordshire.? Sandringham is also a "Gifted and Talented" lead school and International School, with significant international activities taking place throughout the year. The school also coordinates National Initiatives with the Education Endowment Foundation and has a significant reputation in the country for delivering outstanding comprehensive education. The total number of students on roll is 1300 and expanding, with children from age 11 - 19, including a very large and academic sixth form. The catchment area is local, serving the needs of St. Albans and Wheathampstead although sixth form students join the school from further away if they meet the entrance criteria. We have over 100 teachers in the school including specialist teachers of computing science and three female physics teachers all of whom have a specialist interest in space and astronomy. In addition, the headeacher is a very active radio amateur who is extremely supportive of this contact. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows 1.? What do you think Isaac Newton would say if he knew that the name of your ? ? mission was based on his book? 2.? If you had a liquid hydrocarbon in space would the intermolecular forces ? ? be strong enough to hold it in a ball of liquid? 3.? How are rapid cooling of liquid metals performed in the EML experiment? 4.? The EML is being used to study alloy structure and formation. What are ? ? the benefits of using space as a scientific platform? 5.? What would happen to a helium balloon aboard the ISS? 6.? With the EXPOSE-R2 experiment, are you able to predict if any samples ? ? will be able to survive outside in space? 7.? What's the most exciting thing that's happened to you so far on the ISS? 8.? With your view of earth, is there one thing which stands out visually? 9.? We hear that you are planning on driving the Mars Rover from space, how ? ? does that work? 10.? Does gravity affect time and aging? 11.? If you could visit any planet in the solar system (which isn't gas), ? ? which planet would you visit and why? 12.? How does your body feel when you are weightless? 13.? What did you bring with you to the ISS? 14.? Is the sun more powerful in space? 15.? Did you want to be an astronaut when you were a boy and is it like you ? ? thought it would be? 16.? As you are communicating with us, do you get the chance to communicate ? ? with your family? 17.? If you could send any message out into space what would it be? 18.? What do you think the hardest adjustment in coming back down to Earth ? ? will be? 19.? What is the most amazing thing you have seen in space? 20.? Where do you stand on the theory of a multiverse existence and do you ? ? think it is possible to find any evidence for or against this in space? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: ? ? ? Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). ? ? ? To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): ? ? ? 1.? Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado "Benedetto Croce", Civate, Italy,? ? ? ? ? ? telebridge via VK5ZAI ? ? ? ? ? The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be? NA1SS ? ? ? ? ? The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN ? ? ? ? ? Contact is a go for: Wed? 2016-01-13 11:35:44 UTC 33? deg ARISS is an international educational outreach program partnering the volunteer support and leadership from AMSAT and IARU societies around the world with the ISS space agencies partners: NASA, Russian Space Agency, ESA, CNES, JAXA, and CSA. ARISS offers an opportunity for students to experience the excitement of Amateur Radio by talking directly with crewmembers on-board the International Space Station. Teachers, parents and communities see, first hand, how Amateur Radio and crewmembers on ISS can energize youngsters' interest in science, technology, and learning. Further information on the ARISS program visit the ARISS website at ariss.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jan 8 14:51:53 2016 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 14:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] TV News reports of Sandringham ARISS contact References: <696024691.3244300.1452264713889.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <696024691.3244300.1452264713889.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Links for videos of TV news reports about Sandringham School Tim Peake ARISS amateur radio contact are at http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/08/bbc-tv-sandringham-school-amateur-radio-iss-contact/ Sandringham students speak to Tim Peake GB1SS http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/08/sandringham-students-speak-to-tim-peake-gb1ss/ Video of the Women in Engineering activity which was part of Space Festival culminating in ARISS contact is at http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/07/students-prepare-for-iss-contact/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From jcolson7 at tampabay.rr.com Fri Jan 8 15:17:34 2016 From: jcolson7 at tampabay.rr.com (Jack Colson) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:17:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotators which interface with satpc32? Message-ID: Any suggestions for as/el rotators which interface with satpc32? Thank you, w3tmz From kb1pvh at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 15:42:28 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:42:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotators which interface with satpc32? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jack, Yaesu G5500, G5400 http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-002765 AlfaSpid RAS http://www.force12inc.com/products/alfaspid-ras-heavy-duty-az-el-rotator-eme-moonbounce-satellite.html Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From skristof at etczone.net Fri Jan 8 21:39:30 2016 From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 16:39:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites In-Reply-To: References: <3AAB28C600E7498DB38B285377467A3E@StevePC> Message-ID: <0B6145BDB3E146008606CA62761FDD4C@StevePC> This is just what I needed! Instructions, go figure. They are in Dutch and it still worked. Thank you, Jan!! Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "PE0SAT | Amateur Radio" To: Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites > > Hi to All, > > Also have a look at: > http://www.dk3wn.info/files/Manual%20installation%20of%20the%20Visual%20Basic%20Runtime%20files%20on%20W7%2064%20bits.docx > > There is a document on how to install missing OCX files. > > 73 Jan PE0SAT > > On 08-01-2016 04:01, Steve Kristoff wrote: >> Mineo, >> Thank you for the reply, but I have downloaded DK3WN software, and >> the vb6sp6, and the MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, MSCHRT.OCX. >> The software still does not work on my computer. I get the same >> "missing/not registered" error message. >> Is there a specific place that these programs and files should be >> downloaded into? Should they stay in "Downloads"? Should they go in >> the "Program" files? >> Does it make a difference where all the programs are located so that >> they can find each other? >> >> Steve AI9IN >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mineo Wakita" >> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Active 9600 Baud Satellites >> >> >>> Download and install DK3WN's software and OCX.zip etc. >>> Install vb6sp6 or vb6rt340 for MSCOMM32.OCX, MSWINSCK.OCX, >>> and MSCHRT.OCX etc from the other web sites. >>> >>> How to run Softwares in Windows8.1(64bit) >>> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/mix3win8.htm >>> >>> JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> Steve Kristoff >> skristof at etczone.com >> >> "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others >> beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined >> efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - >> Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, >> Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, >> Illinois, 1924 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- > With regards PE0SAT > Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ > DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From mccardelm at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 23:32:48 2016 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (EMike McCardel) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:32:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] My New Callsign Message-ID: <193599F4-EC5D-49D6-9EAA-7CC1EA443304@gmail.com> Folks, Please note that, as of today, my callsign is now AA8EM EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA Sent from my iPhone From af5cc2 at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 01:11:55 2016 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:11:55 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] My New Callsign In-Reply-To: <193599F4-EC5D-49D6-9EAA-7CC1EA443304@gmail.com> References: <193599F4-EC5D-49D6-9EAA-7CC1EA443304@gmail.com> Message-ID: Great call! Congratulations! 73 John AF5CC On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 5:32 PM, EMike McCardel wrote: > Folks, > > Please note that, as of today, my callsign is now AA8EM > > EMike > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD > VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From dxdx at optonline.net Sat Jan 9 02:08:45 2016 From: dxdx at optonline.net (Tony) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 21:08:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] G-500A Controller Bulb Replacement Message-ID: <56906BAD.5000209@optonline.net> All: Need to replace the bulb that illuminates the meter on a Yaesu G-500A elevation controller and I was wondering if anyone had done this before. I'm assuming the bulb is located somewhere in the vicinity of the meter, but not seeing it by looking through the meter window. Thanks... Tony -K2MO From kb1pvh at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 02:30:39 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 21:30:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] G-500A Controller Bulb Replacement In-Reply-To: <56906BAD.5000209@optonline.net> References: <56906BAD.5000209@optonline.net> Message-ID: Tony, This is for the 5400 but should be similar. http://www.kk0sd.net/rotorlight/Yaesu.htm Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From jcolson7 at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jan 9 02:41:39 2016 From: jcolson7 at tampabay.rr.com (Jack Colson) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 21:41:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 rotators Message-ID: <7E1B6D86-DD10-4BCF-80A1-4DFB03B5C64D@tampabay.rr.com> What rotators are being interfaced to Satpc32? 73, Jack, W3TMZ From kb1pvh at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 02:48:15 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 21:48:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 rotators In-Reply-To: <7E1B6D86-DD10-4BCF-80A1-4DFB03B5C64D@tampabay.rr.com> References: <7E1B6D86-DD10-4BCF-80A1-4DFB03B5C64D@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: Check posts from earlier today when you asked the same question. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 On Jan 8, 2016 9:43 PM, "Jack Colson" wrote: > What rotators are being interfaced to Satpc32? > 73, > Jack, W3TMZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w0pd at elp.rr.com Sat Jan 9 02:45:47 2016 From: w0pd at elp.rr.com (Mike McConnell) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:45:47 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help Message-ID: <006101d14a87$d8625b60$89271220$@elp.rr.com> I am trying to get the DUV telemetry working here. I have the Audio from my IC-910H ACC Socket (Pin 5 AF) feeding my computer with no luck on decode. Should I be obtaining the audio instead from the Data output 9600 pin 4? Thanks W0PD Michael McConnell, Ph D. Horizon City, TX 79928 From burns at fisher.cc Sat Jan 9 03:06:14 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 22:06:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help In-Reply-To: <006101d14a87$d8625b60$89271220$@elp.rr.com> References: <006101d14a87$d8625b60$89271220$@elp.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi MIke, Yes, you certainly need to take it from data out. Normal audio will filter out the lows below a few hundred hertz, and that is right where the DUV data is. Check the specs though...sometime rigs take out all filtering on 9600 baud packet. Some take out only the filtering on the high end. So you may have to hack a wire in on the other side of all the filtering. Burns W2BFJ On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Mike McConnell wrote: > I am trying to get the DUV telemetry working here. I have the Audio from my > IC-910H ACC Socket (Pin 5 AF) feeding my computer with no luck on decode. > Should I be obtaining the audio instead from the Data output 9600 pin 4? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > W0PD > > Michael McConnell, Ph D. > > Horizon City, TX 79928 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From AJ9N at aol.com Sat Jan 9 07:37:46 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 02:37:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-09 07:30 UTC Message-ID: <7d60be.50f578b2.43c212ca@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-09 07:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK, direct via GB1SAN The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact was successful: Fri 2016-01-08 08:47:47 UTC 83 deg (***) Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-13 11:35:44 UTC 33 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 114 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-09 07:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1017. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 982. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-09 07:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From jim at milnet.uk.net Sat Jan 9 11:04:31 2016 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:04:31 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Mode change Message-ID: Hi Folks, Just to say that I have now put AO-73/FUNcube in full time transponder mode for the weekend. As normal plan is to return it to education mode on Sunday pm (UTC) Apologies for being late due to operator error! (we normally try and do this mode change on Friday evenings) 73s Jim G3WGM From nss at mwt.net Sat Jan 9 14:51:23 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 08:51:23 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity Message-ID: <56911E6B.4030006@mwt.net> Cross Polarization. We all know that vertical to vertical = Zero db loss from cross polarization. same with horizontal to horizontal and Right hand circular to RHC as well s LHC TO LHC And then in theory, the "Infinite loss" when vert to horiz, and RHC to LHC But while in theory it says "Infinite" in practicality it's more like 30 to 40 db or so. Now I did notice this effect when I had an antenna array that the db loss was NOT linear. Like say at 45 degrees of polarity error, being half way in a linear world would be 15 to 20 db loss, but according to this pdf file it is only 3 db down. And I do agree with this because I do remember when rotating the polarity little change was noticed till the last bit and the max deep part was very small. Now does anyone know of a chart anywhere where the values for every degree of something really is? Like 45 deg is 3 db down, 50 deg =? 55 deg =? etc. anyone? Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com From nss at mwt.net Sat Jan 9 14:58:33 2016 From: nss at mwt.net (Joe) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 08:58:33 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity In-Reply-To: <56911E6B.4030006@mwt.net> References: <56911E6B.4030006@mwt.net> Message-ID: <56912019.9090607@mwt.net> sorry missed adding the pdf address that I referred to below, here it is, http://www.tscm.com/polariza.pdf Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 1/9/2016 8:51 AM, Joe wrote: > Cross Polarization. > > We all know that vertical to vertical = Zero db loss from cross > polarization. > same with horizontal to horizontal > > and > > Right hand circular to RHC as well s LHC TO LHC > > And then in theory, the "Infinite loss" when vert to horiz, and RHC > to LHC > But while in theory it says "Infinite" in practicality it's more like > 30 to 40 db or so. > > Now I did notice this effect when I had an antenna array that the db > loss was NOT linear. > > Like say at 45 degrees of polarity error, being half way in a linear > world would be 15 to 20 db loss, but according to this pdf file it is > only 3 db down. > > And I do agree with this because I do remember when rotating the > polarity little change was noticed till the last bit and the max deep > part was very small. > > Now does anyone know of a chart anywhere where the values for every > degree of something really is? Like 45 deg is 3 db down, 50 deg =? 55 > deg =? etc. > > anyone? > > Joe WB9SBD From jcolson7 at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jan 9 16:45:42 2016 From: jcolson7 at tampabay.rr.com (Jack Colson) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:45:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] would someone tell me how to access the current amsat-bb archives Message-ID: All I am able to find is those from 2009 to 1998. Thank you, sri for dumb question. W3TMZ From kb1pvh at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 17:02:31 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] would someone tell me how to access the current amsat-bb archives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jack, Here you go. http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/ Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Jan 9 17:03:17 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:03:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] would someone tell me how to access the current amsat-bb archives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0cdd01d14aff$a3049f00$e90ddd00$@com> Use this link: http://amsat.org/pipermail/ans/ If you forget, you can go to the AMSAT webpage, click services, then ANS 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jack Colson Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 11:46 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] would someone tell me how to access the current amsat-bb archives All I am able to find is those from 2009 to 1998. Thank you, sri for dumb question. W3TMZ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Jan 9 17:04:54 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:04:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] would someone tell me how to access the current amsat-bb archives In-Reply-To: <0cdd01d14aff$a3049f00$e90ddd00$@com> References: <0cdd01d14aff$a3049f00$e90ddd00$@com> Message-ID: <0cde01d14aff$dc7954b0$956bfe10$@com> Err, disregard, I thought you said ANS. Dave sent you the right link. -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:03 PM To: 'Jack Colson'; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] would someone tell me how to access the current amsat-bb archives Use this link: http://amsat.org/pipermail/ans/ If you forget, you can go to the AMSAT webpage, click services, then ANS 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jack Colson Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 11:46 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] would someone tell me how to access the current amsat-bb archives All I am able to find is those from 2009 to 1998. Thank you, sri for dumb question. W3TMZ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Sat Jan 9 17:05:32 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:05:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity In-Reply-To: <56912019.9090607@mwt.net> References: <56911E6B.4030006@mwt.net> <56912019.9090607@mwt.net> Message-ID: > We all know that [matched polarity] = Zero db loss from cross polarization. > And then in theory, the "Infinite loss" when cross polarized... > [Pracically],it's more like 30 to 40 db or so [ or much less in the presence of reflections] > Now does anyone know of a chart ... for every degree of something really is? > Like 45 deg is 3 db down, 50 deg =? 55 deg =? etc. The cosine table works for all angles.. The cosine of 45 degrees is 1/2 which is -3 dB etc... Bob, Wb4APR From skristof at etczone.net Sat Jan 9 17:20:57 2016 From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:20:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity In-Reply-To: References: <56911E6B.4030006@mwt.net><56912019.9090607@mwt.net> Message-ID: Well, the cosine of 45 degrees is actually 0.707. I suspect that the article is implying that the loss is linear. Since 45 degrees is half of 90 degrees, then you lose half the power, or -3dB. Following that logic, at 22.5 degrees you'd half one-fourth the power or -6dB, etc. I have no idea if the article is correct, but the cosine of 45 degrees is 0.707 Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" To: "amsat bb" Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarity >> We all know that [matched polarity] = Zero db loss from cross > polarization. >> And then in theory, the "Infinite loss" when cross polarized... >> [Pracically],it's more like 30 to 40 db or so [ or much less in the > presence of reflections] >> Now does anyone know of a chart ... for every degree of something really > is? >> Like 45 deg is 3 db down, 50 deg =? 55 deg =? etc. > > The cosine table works for all angles.. The cosine of 45 degrees is 1/2 > which is -3 dB etc... > > Bob, Wb4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From skristof at etczone.net Sat Jan 9 17:34:56 2016 From: skristof at etczone.net (Steve Kristoff) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:34:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity In-Reply-To: References: <56911E6B.4030006@mwt.net><56912019.9090607@mwt.net> Message-ID: <24F05850E9C949AA8E62AB717972F5EA@StevePC> It makes sense (to me) that it follows a cosine function. So, if your antenna is horizontal and the signal is at 30 degrees above the horizontal, you should be getting about 87% of the signal, which figures out to a loss of about -.6dB. If the signal is coming in at 45 degrees, you're getting about 71% of the signal, for a loss of about -1.5 dB. If the signal is at 60 degrees above horizontal you'll get about 50% of the signal, which is the -3dB loss. At 80 degrees above horizontal, you'll get about 17% of the signal, which is a -7.6 dB loss I know that is not what the article says, but if you're going by cosines, which makes sense to me, those should be the numbers. (I think maybe) Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" To: "amsat bb" Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarity >> We all know that [matched polarity] = Zero db loss from cross > polarization. >> And then in theory, the "Infinite loss" when cross polarized... >> [Pracically],it's more like 30 to 40 db or so [ or much less in the > presence of reflections] >> Now does anyone know of a chart ... for every degree of something really > is? >> Like 45 deg is 3 db down, 50 deg =? 55 deg =? etc. > > The cosine table works for all angles.. The cosine of 45 degrees is 1/2 > which is -3 dB etc... > > Bob, Wb4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 From burns at fisher.cc Sat Jan 9 17:39:48 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:39:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity In-Reply-To: <24F05850E9C949AA8E62AB717972F5EA@StevePC> References: <56911E6B.4030006@mwt.net> <56912019.9090607@mwt.net> <24F05850E9C949AA8E62AB717972F5EA@StevePC> Message-ID: Is the -1.5db vs -3db difference power vs voltage (which would be v**2/r and thus the loss of power is the square of the loss of voltage, which is double the db) ? On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Steve Kristoff wrote: > It makes sense (to me) that it follows a cosine function. So, if your > antenna is horizontal and the signal is at 30 degrees above the horizontal, > you should be getting about 87% of the signal, which figures out to a loss > of about -.6dB. If the signal is coming in at 45 degrees, you're getting > about 71% of the signal, for a loss of about -1.5 dB. If the signal is at > 60 degrees above horizontal you'll get about 50% of the signal, which is > the -3dB loss. > At 80 degrees above horizontal, you'll get about 17% of the signal, which > is a -7.6 dB loss > I know that is not what the article says, but if you're going by cosines, > which makes sense to me, those should be the numbers. > (I think maybe) > > Steve AI9IN > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" > To: "amsat bb" > Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarity > > > We all know that [matched polarity] = Zero db loss from cross >>> >> polarization. >> >>> And then in theory, the "Infinite loss" when cross polarized... >>> [Pracically],it's more like 30 to 40 db or so [ or much less in the >>> >> presence of reflections] >> >>> Now does anyone know of a chart ... for every degree of something really >>> >> is? >> >>> Like 45 deg is 3 db down, 50 deg =? 55 deg =? etc. >>> >> >> The cosine table works for all angles.. The cosine of 45 degrees is 1/2 >> which is -3 dB etc... >> >> Bob, Wb4APR >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> Steve Kristoff > skristof at etczone.com > > "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside > yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the > financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New > Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, > Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bruninga at usna.edu Sat Jan 9 17:40:55 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:40:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity In-Reply-To: References: <56911E6B.4030006@mwt.net> <56912019.9090607@mwt.net> Message-ID: Sorry, I should have elaborated.... dB is a reference to power. ANd power is proportional to Voltage squared. So when the voltage of an RF field is down by 0.707 squared it is down by one half. Or - 3dB. And when we use the cosine law we are referring to the angle off axis. So straight on is 0 angle and is 0 dB loss. 45 degrees is 3 dB down. But going another 22.5 degrees or 67.5 degrees off axis is 0.38 squared which is.144 which is -8.4 dB . Getting down to 90 degrees where the cosine is 0 might also seem confusing, but remember we are comparing "dB down" which is a ratio of the full power available, lets say 1, divided by the smaller power we would get at off angles. When we get to 90 degree off angle, and a cosine of 0 then we are comparing "1" straight on, divided by the "0" we get when we are cross polarized and so we get 1/0 which is infinitely "down"... I guess there is a better way to explain it... but I have not had my coffee yet. Bob On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Steve Kristoff wrote: > Well, the cosine of 45 degrees is actually 0.707. I suspect that the > article is implying that the loss is linear. Since 45 degrees is half of 90 > degrees, then you lose half the power, or -3dB. > Following that logic, at 22.5 degrees you'd half one-fourth the power or > -6dB, etc. > > I have no idea if the article is correct, but the cosine of 45 degrees is > 0.707 > > Steve AI9IN > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" > To: "amsat bb" > Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarity > > > We all know that [matched polarity] = Zero db loss from cross >>> >> polarization. >> >>> And then in theory, the "Infinite loss" when cross polarized... >>> [Pracically],it's more like 30 to 40 db or so [ or much less in the >>> >> presence of reflections] >> >>> Now does anyone know of a chart ... for every degree of something really >>> >> is? >> >>> Like 45 deg is 3 db down, 50 deg =? 55 deg =? etc. >>> >> >> The cosine table works for all angles.. The cosine of 45 degrees is 1/2 >> which is -3 dB etc... >> >> Bob, Wb4APR >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> Steve Kristoff > skristof at etczone.com > > "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside > yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the > financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New > Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, > Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From py4zbz at yahoo.com Sat Jan 9 17:44:47 2016 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 17:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity References: <1767358981.2060239.1452361487379.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1767358981.2060239.1452361487379.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The theoretical value of the loss in dB as a function of the angle "alpha" of bias error?for linear polarization is: ?20log(cos(alpha)) Examples:?for alpha= 45 degrees : ?20log(cos(45)) = 20log(0,707) = -3 dBfor alpha= 60 degrees : ?20log(cos(60)) = 20log(0,5) = -6 dBfor alpha= 89 degrees : ?20log(cos(89)) = 20log(0,0174)= -35 dB 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From pconver at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 18:02:01 2016 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 15:02:01 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Pass Satellite Tracking - Rotor & Rigs Message-ID: App available at http://amsat.org.ar/pass.exe for download. This application is an upgrade on web app http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm To control Rotor/Rigs, run concurrently WispDDE Driver. ( http://www.mederoscnc.com/CX6DD/wispdde/wispdde.htm ) Thanks for fine comments and suggestions on pass.htm . Congrats all for excellent satellite activity shown on amsat-bb. If You care to try pass.exe, comments, changes, additions, welcome. Enjoy, Best 73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso From w7lrd at comcast.net Sat Jan 9 18:18:12 2016 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 18:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] fyi Message-ID: <810332739.853993.1452363492806.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Recently bought a short jumper cable for my Chinese HT radio from MPD digital. Nice quality and reasonable price. 73 Bob W7LRD From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 19:05:22 2016 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2016 11:05:22 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] It's so easy... In-Reply-To: <609134A9-186C-4EA9-AC13-89B1158AA019@wx4tv.com> References: <609134A9-186C-4EA9-AC13-89B1158AA019@wx4tv.com> Message-ID: <569159F2.1070106@gmail.com> Way to go Hope! Quite a pro already. Greg KO6TH James Lea - WX4TV wrote: > a little girl can do it! > > https://youtu.be/13COZU957IU > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at druidnetworks.com Sat Jan 9 19:10:06 2016 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (Dave Swanson) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:10:06 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Regular Arrow vs. Alaskan Arrow Message-ID: <56915B0E.6010909@druidnetworks.com> Hello Satellites friends and colleagues, Since I started making videos a few months back of my portable satellite operating, a lot of folks have picked up on the fact that I seem to use the 'Alaskan' Arrow (AKA) pretty often. I also tend to use the AKA for DX contacts and very long distance QSOs which always make it into my movies. Questions about the AKA versus the regular arrow have become by far the most asked topic of me from other operators. Clayton, W5PFG, wrote an outstanding piece on his blog ( http://www.w5pfg.us/2015/10/my-thoughts-about-alaskan-arrow-146437.html ) with his thoughts on the AKA, after his experience with one this fall, that I'd recommend that anyone interested in this topic also go read. Since I don't have a blog though, this is the best forum I have to express thoughts on the matter. If you have no intention of ever operating portable, or are convinced some other design is superior, then feel free to skip the rest of this thread. I'm not trying to make this into anything other than an answer to frequently asked questions I get, concerning the differences between the Regular Arrow and the Alaskan Arrow, and to try and address the 'is it worth it' question that inevitably follows the 'which one should I get' question. So, to start, the regular arrow is great antenna. I have one, and I use it for 95% of the passes I work. I used my regular arrow for my first QSOs with Brazil, Alaska, Hawaii, Northern Ireland, and England, all of which are between 5000km and 7200km from my home operating spots. It is lightweight, effective, and will suit the needs of nearly every satellite operator out there that seeks a portable antenna. If (and this is a huge if, that's outside the scope of this post, but so so important) you have a nice operating spot that has a clear view of the horizon with nothing in the way. You can easily work all birds in the sky AOS til LOS with the regular arrow, and be wildly successful. If I'm not chasing 7000km+ DX, I'll be on my regular arrow. If I'm hanging my arm out the window while /P in another grid? I'll be on my regular arrow. Backyard 45? SO50 pass in the evening? Regular Arrow. Most of the time, I'm on my regular Arrow. It probably doesn't look that way from pictures and video, but I typically don't document my routine operating.. no one wants to see that, they only wanna see the cool stuff. So, why do I own and use an AKA with everything I just wrote in mind? First, I do operate terrestrial VHF/UHF, as well as satellites, from mountain tops. For this type of work I'll physically attach the AKA with only one set of elements installed to my mast, pop it up in the air, and work folks in other grids on 2m or 70cm. If I'm Jeepin' to the mountain top, my equipment has to break down into small enough pieces I can fit it inside, or if I'm hiking, it needs to be small and lightweight enough to carry up on my back. The AKA represents the highest gain, lightest weight, most portable solution that I could find for my style of mountain-topping. Second, the AKA does have more gain, which is useful for working satellites. It's not a lot more gain, and it's not required on most passes, but I routinely work at < 0.5? in max elevation from elevated positions while portable, and so every db counts. Most people are probably not doing this... and judging by the considerable lack of activity I hear in the birds on these passes, I think there's a fair amount of evidence to support this theory. If you're routinely working exceptionally low passes at and near the horizon portable, then an AKA might be for you. If not, I wouldn't worry about it. Third, as mentioned many times by others, the AKA is big and heavy. As Jeff, NI3B, said a while back in a post "Holding one of those things up in the air for fourteen minutes and your arms will look like Popeye the Sailor Man at LOS." Combine this with my distaste for tripods, and you can see where we've got an issue. While I don't care much for canned spinach, I am a six-foot, 250 pound man, I split firewood by hand, and I try to keep myself pretty strong and in shape. I can hold the AKA for an entire pass without a huge issue, even thought my arms get pretty sore after. I absolutely understand that others may not be capable, or simply may not want to subject themselves to this kind of punishment. That's fine, you don't have too. Get a regular arrow, and save your biceps.. you'll be just fine. So in summary, If you're a mountain-top, multidisciplinary operator, that wants superior portable performance, weight and muscle fatigue be damned, then the AKA might be for you. If you're not, get the regular arrow, you won't be sorry. Feel free to ask questions, provide critiques. 73! -Dave, KG5CCI From normanlizeth at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 19:35:37 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Lizeth Norman) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:35:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Regular Arrow vs. Alaskan Arrow In-Reply-To: <56915B0E.6010909@druidnetworks.com> References: <56915B0E.6010909@druidnetworks.com> Message-ID: Phased Elks work well. Airline portable. 2 pieces of coax the same length and a tee. Only caveat is the horizontal spacing. Any antenna pair could be driven the same way. Shooting RF up and over the Andes (knife edge diffraction) and taking advantage of ducting are two of the things that I've noticed with this setup. Fellow at Elk was kind enough to outline what I needed to know regarding this and then push me out to the net to learn.. Look up stacking antennas. Capture area. He thinks the elk has an elliptical capture area. That follows from my in field testing. It's not about gain (directionality, really), it's about more signal to less noise. Noise levels in the rest of the world are high. Example: Seaside VHF or UHF. Noise pointing over the ocean is much less, s2. Point inland in any occupied area.. 20+S9. Cavity helps somewhat with AGC lift. I don't take this stuff to nowheresville without a reason. Let me tell you about the dxpedition to Vieques that no one heard. On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Dave Swanson wrote: > Hello Satellites friends and colleagues, > > Since I started making videos a few months back of my portable satellite > operating, a lot of folks have picked up on the fact that I seem to use the > 'Alaskan' Arrow (AKA) pretty often. I also tend to use the AKA for DX > contacts and very long distance QSOs which always make it into my movies. > Questions about the AKA versus the regular arrow have become by far the most > asked topic of me from other operators. Clayton, W5PFG, wrote an outstanding > piece on his blog ( > http://www.w5pfg.us/2015/10/my-thoughts-about-alaskan-arrow-146437.html ) > with his thoughts on the AKA, after his experience with one this fall, that > I'd recommend that anyone interested in this topic also go read. Since I > don't have a blog though, this is the best forum I have to express thoughts > on the matter. If you have no intention of ever operating portable, or are > convinced some other design is superior, then feel free to skip the rest of > this thread. I'm not trying to make this into anything other than an answer > to frequently asked questions I get, concerning the differences between the > Regular Arrow and the Alaskan Arrow, and to try and address the 'is it worth > it' question that inevitably follows the 'which one should I get' question. > > So, to start, the regular arrow is great antenna. I have one, and I use it > for 95% of the passes I work. I used my regular arrow for my first QSOs with > Brazil, Alaska, Hawaii, Northern Ireland, and England, all of which are > between 5000km and 7200km from my home operating spots. It is lightweight, > effective, and will suit the needs of nearly every satellite operator out > there that seeks a portable antenna. If (and this is a huge if, that's > outside the scope of this post, but so so important) you have a nice > operating spot that has a clear view of the horizon with nothing in the way. > You can easily work all birds in the sky AOS til LOS with the regular arrow, > and be wildly successful. If I'm not chasing 7000km+ DX, I'll be on my > regular arrow. If I'm hanging my arm out the window while /P in another > grid? I'll be on my regular arrow. Backyard 45? SO50 pass in the evening? > Regular Arrow. Most of the time, I'm on my regular Arrow. It probably > doesn't look that way from pictures and video, but I typically don't > document my routine operating.. no one wants to see that, they only wanna > see the cool stuff. > > So, why do I own and use an AKA with everything I just wrote in mind? > > First, I do operate terrestrial VHF/UHF, as well as satellites, from > mountain tops. For this type of work I'll physically attach the AKA with > only one set of elements installed to my mast, pop it up in the air, and > work folks in other grids on 2m or 70cm. If I'm Jeepin' to the mountain top, > my equipment has to break down into small enough pieces I can fit it inside, > or if I'm hiking, it needs to be small and lightweight enough to carry up on > my back. The AKA represents the highest gain, lightest weight, most portable > solution that I could find for my style of mountain-topping. > > Second, the AKA does have more gain, which is useful for working satellites. > It's not a lot more gain, and it's not required on most passes, but I > routinely work at < 0.5? in max elevation from elevated positions while > portable, and so every db counts. Most people are probably not doing this... > and judging by the considerable lack of activity I hear in the birds on > these passes, I think there's a fair amount of evidence to support this > theory. If you're routinely working exceptionally low passes at and near the > horizon portable, then an AKA might be for you. If not, I wouldn't worry > about it. > > Third, as mentioned many times by others, the AKA is big and heavy. As Jeff, > NI3B, said a while back in a post "Holding one of those things up in the air > for fourteen minutes and your arms will look like Popeye the Sailor Man at > LOS." Combine this with my distaste for tripods, and you can see where we've > got an issue. While I don't care much for canned spinach, I am a six-foot, > 250 pound man, I split firewood by hand, and I try to keep myself pretty > strong and in shape. I can hold the AKA for an entire pass without a huge > issue, even thought my arms get pretty sore after. I absolutely understand > that others may not be capable, or simply may not want to subject themselves > to this kind of punishment. That's fine, you don't have too. Get a regular > arrow, and save your biceps.. you'll be just fine. > > So in summary, If you're a mountain-top, multidisciplinary operator, that > wants superior portable performance, weight and muscle fatigue be damned, > then the AKA might be for you. If you're not, get the regular arrow, you > won't be sorry. > > Feel free to ask questions, provide critiques. > > 73! > > -Dave, KG5CCI > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w5pfg at amsat.org Sat Jan 9 20:07:19 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:07:19 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Regular Arrow vs. Alaskan Arrow In-Reply-To: References: <56915B0E.6010909@druidnetworks.com> Message-ID: <56916877.6020601@amsat.org> One factor that is often overlooked in planning a good portable operation is the location's height above average terrain and the surrounding noise level. Dave KG5CCI certainly knows how to pick a good location. In a very low-noise, high plain area where I operate occasionally (DM95ae/DM985xe,) a short 2 element 2m yagi and 4 element 70cm yagi allow me to operate to the horizon in all directions on all of our current LEO satellites. That antenna choice is not applicable everywhere. Another factor is the portability of the station itself. In many cases, I drive a vehicle with my portable gear. With air travel, larger yagis or multiple antennas can be problematic. I have had no trouble flying domestically or internationally with a full size Arrow and/or Elk. I'd opt for a better operating location than bigger antenna almost any day. Larger and more complex stations reduce your ability to be agile and adapt to unexpected situations encountered in the field. Plus, increased complexity creates opportunity for failure. It is always interesting to read from others how they operate portable. The variations in technique and equipment provides others a stepping stones on which to perfect their own portable stations. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/9/2016 13:35, Lizeth Norman wrote: > Phased Elks work well. Airline portable. 2 pieces of coax the same > length and a tee. Only caveat is the horizontal spacing. Any antenna > pair could be driven the same way. > > Shooting RF up and over the Andes (knife edge diffraction) and taking > advantage of ducting are two of the things that I've noticed with this > setup. > > Fellow at Elk was kind enough to outline what I needed to know > regarding this and then push me out to the net to learn.. Look up > stacking antennas. Capture area. He thinks the elk has an elliptical > capture area. That follows from my in field testing. > > It's not about gain (directionality, really), it's about more signal > to less noise. Noise levels in the rest of the world are high. > > Example: Seaside VHF or UHF. Noise pointing over the ocean is much > less, s2. Point inland in any occupied area.. 20+S9. Cavity helps > somewhat with AGC lift. > > I don't take this stuff to nowheresville without a reason. > > Let me tell you about the dxpedition to Vieques that no one heard. > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Dave Swanson wrote: >> Hello Satellites friends and colleagues, >> >> Since I started making videos a few months back of my portable satellite >> operating, a lot of folks have picked up on the fact that I seem to use the >> 'Alaskan' Arrow (AKA) pretty often. I also tend to use the AKA for DX >> contacts and very long distance QSOs which always make it into my movies. >> Questions about the AKA versus the regular arrow have become by far the most >> asked topic of me from other operators. Clayton, W5PFG, wrote an outstanding >> piece on his blog ( >> http://www.w5pfg.us/2015/10/my-thoughts-about-alaskan-arrow-146437.html ) >> with his thoughts on the AKA, after his experience with one this fall, that >> I'd recommend that anyone interested in this topic also go read. Since I >> don't have a blog though, this is the best forum I have to express thoughts >> on the matter. If you have no intention of ever operating portable, or are >> convinced some other design is superior, then feel free to skip the rest of >> this thread. I'm not trying to make this into anything other than an answer >> to frequently asked questions I get, concerning the differences between the >> Regular Arrow and the Alaskan Arrow, and to try and address the 'is it worth >> it' question that inevitably follows the 'which one should I get' question. >> >> So, to start, the regular arrow is great antenna. I have one, and I use it >> for 95% of the passes I work. I used my regular arrow for my first QSOs with >> Brazil, Alaska, Hawaii, Northern Ireland, and England, all of which are >> between 5000km and 7200km from my home operating spots. It is lightweight, >> effective, and will suit the needs of nearly every satellite operator out >> there that seeks a portable antenna. If (and this is a huge if, that's >> outside the scope of this post, but so so important) you have a nice >> operating spot that has a clear view of the horizon with nothing in the way. >> You can easily work all birds in the sky AOS til LOS with the regular arrow, >> and be wildly successful. If I'm not chasing 7000km+ DX, I'll be on my >> regular arrow. If I'm hanging my arm out the window while /P in another >> grid? I'll be on my regular arrow. Backyard 45? SO50 pass in the evening? >> Regular Arrow. Most of the time, I'm on my regular Arrow. It probably >> doesn't look that way from pictures and video, but I typically don't >> document my routine operating.. no one wants to see that, they only wanna >> see the cool stuff. >> >> So, why do I own and use an AKA with everything I just wrote in mind? >> >> First, I do operate terrestrial VHF/UHF, as well as satellites, from >> mountain tops. For this type of work I'll physically attach the AKA with >> only one set of elements installed to my mast, pop it up in the air, and >> work folks in other grids on 2m or 70cm. If I'm Jeepin' to the mountain top, >> my equipment has to break down into small enough pieces I can fit it inside, >> or if I'm hiking, it needs to be small and lightweight enough to carry up on >> my back. The AKA represents the highest gain, lightest weight, most portable >> solution that I could find for my style of mountain-topping. >> >> Second, the AKA does have more gain, which is useful for working satellites. >> It's not a lot more gain, and it's not required on most passes, but I >> routinely work at < 0.5? in max elevation from elevated positions while >> portable, and so every db counts. Most people are probably not doing this... >> and judging by the considerable lack of activity I hear in the birds on >> these passes, I think there's a fair amount of evidence to support this >> theory. If you're routinely working exceptionally low passes at and near the >> horizon portable, then an AKA might be for you. If not, I wouldn't worry >> about it. >> >> Third, as mentioned many times by others, the AKA is big and heavy. As Jeff, >> NI3B, said a while back in a post "Holding one of those things up in the air >> for fourteen minutes and your arms will look like Popeye the Sailor Man at >> LOS." Combine this with my distaste for tripods, and you can see where we've >> got an issue. While I don't care much for canned spinach, I am a six-foot, >> 250 pound man, I split firewood by hand, and I try to keep myself pretty >> strong and in shape. I can hold the AKA for an entire pass without a huge >> issue, even thought my arms get pretty sore after. I absolutely understand >> that others may not be capable, or simply may not want to subject themselves >> to this kind of punishment. That's fine, you don't have too. Get a regular >> arrow, and save your biceps.. you'll be just fine. >> >> So in summary, If you're a mountain-top, multidisciplinary operator, that >> wants superior portable performance, weight and muscle fatigue be damned, >> then the AKA might be for you. If you're not, get the regular arrow, you >> won't be sorry. >> >> Feel free to ask questions, provide critiques. >> >> 73! >> >> -Dave, KG5CCI >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ciaran at it-sparkles.co.uk Sat Jan 9 21:42:34 2016 From: ciaran at it-sparkles.co.uk (Ciaran Morgan) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 21:42:34 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Video of ARISS between GB1SS and Sandringham school GB1SAN Message-ID: <20160109214816.2660886C4@lansing182.amsat.org> The full video of the web stream from Fridays contact between Sandringham school and Tim Peake is now available on YouTube. The video is a complete copy of everything that was web streamed from the school by the UK ARISS team. Please search for the "ARISS UK Team" and you will find a channel that I have set up. It currently contains the video from the Richard Garriott contact in Oct 2008 with Budbrooke School and the Sandringham contact. Over time, it will be populated with videos of the previous UK contacts. As further contacts with Tim occur, they will be uploaded to this YouTube channel. Enjoy! 73s Ciaran - M0XTD From k8bl at ameritech.net Sat Jan 9 22:20:40 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 22:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarity In-Reply-To: <24F05850E9C949AA8E62AB717972F5EA@StevePC> References: <24F05850E9C949AA8E62AB717972F5EA@StevePC> Message-ID: <2044500797.2676069.1452378040434.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> It seems to me that a live test of these theories and calculations?would be easy to perform. In an open space, separate two radios with dipole antennas. Onone radio transmit and read the receive level on the other radiowhile turning one of the antennas to a variety of polarizations. Be careful to avoid ground effects and Fresnel Zones. Let us know the results. ? ;o) GL/73, ? ? ?Bob K8BL From: Steve Kristoff To: amsat bb Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarity It makes sense (to me) that it follows a cosine function. So, if your antenna is horizontal and the signal is at 30 degrees above the horizontal, you should be getting about 87% of the signal, which figures out to a loss of about -.6dB. If the signal is coming in at 45 degrees, you're getting about 71% of the signal, for a loss of about -1.5 dB. If the signal is at 60 degrees above horizontal you'll get about 50% of the signal, which is the -3dB loss. At 80 degrees above horizontal, you'll get about 17% of the signal, which is a -7.6 dB loss I know that is not what the article says, but if you're going by cosines, which makes sense to me, those should be the numbers. (I think maybe) Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" To: "amsat bb" Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarity >> We all know that [matched polarity] = Zero db loss from cross > polarization. >> And then in theory, the "Infinite loss"? when cross polarized... >> [Pracically],it's more like 30 to 40 db or so [ or much less in the > presence of reflections] >> Now does anyone know of a chart ... for every degree of something really > is? >> Like 45 deg is 3 db down,? 50 deg =? 55 deg =?? etc. > > The cosine table works for all angles..? The cosine of 45 degrees is 1/2 > which is -3 dB etc... > > Bob, Wb4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > Steve Kristoff skristof at etczone.com "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From framirezferrer at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 22:06:14 2016 From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 15:06:14 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Successful activation of NPOTA sites HP45+TR13 on SO-50 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would like to thank KO6TZ, WD9EWK, KL7CN, W5PFG, N6UA, N8HM, K4FEG, K8YSE, N7EC and AA0CW for their contacts during the 20:20 utc SO-50 pass today. Those 10 contacts validated the activation of Tumacacori National Historical Park + Juan Bautista de Anza National Historic Trail in southern Arizona. Equipment used: Chinese made HT and Arrow II Antenna. TQSL allows elegible NPOTA multiple units, which are included on the drop down menu when setting up the parks' names. As usual, the pass was busy, but free of whistlers, CQ'ers, hoolas, etc. Again, thank you all for your help. Log for the pass already on LoTW. 73! Fernando, NP4JV Nogales, AZ From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 01:53:42 2016 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 20:53:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-010 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-010 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Cruising to the 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium * ARISS-US Receives $5,000 Grant from Yasme Foundation * Best Fist Nominations Due * Your 2015 Space Symposium Photos Needed! * ARISS Commemorative SSTV Event Update * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-010.01 ANS-010 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 010.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. [MONTH DAY, YEAR] To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-010.01 Cruising to the 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium The 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium will be held aboard a commercial cruise ship departing from the port of Galveston, Texas. Sail dates are November 10-14 aboard the Carnival Liberty. Galveston is conveniently located near Houston, Texas with access from both the George Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH) and the Houston Hobby Airport (HOU.) This cruise will embark on Thursday afternoon at 16:00 CST and return on the following Monday morning at 08:00 CST. The trip includes two full days at sea and one day in port at Cozumel, Mexico. Symposium presentations and meetings will be conducted during the days at sea to allow free time during the stop in Cozumel. The AMSAT Board of Directors meeting will occur on shore at a Galveston hotel in the days prior to the Symposium. This year's cruise ship venue offers an environment for significant others, families, and friends to attend the AMSAT Symposium event with you. Many activities are available on a cruise ship including musical and theatrical performances, comedy, dancing, and casino gaming. During the stop in Cozumel there are many onshore activities and excursions available for your pleasure. There will be no post- Symposium tour offered since this venue incorporates the Cozumel visit. In preparation for this upcoming Symposium it is recommended you obtain a passport for travel as soon as possible. United States residents may find the most convenient place to obtain a passport is their nearest US Post Office. Not all USPS locations offer this service; check the US Postal Service website: https://www.usps.com/international/passports.htm Details on travel documents required for US citizens to take a Carnival cruise originating at a US Port and returning to the same port may be found here: https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1406 AMSAT is offering a group rate and booking code available starting January 5. Please book your cruise directly by calling 1-800-438- 6744 and dialing extension number 70005. Our group name is AMSAT and the group code is 8Z0FR5. It is recommended you make reservations very early since cabins are held for a short period of time. Reservations require a $150 USD per person deposit. The deposit is fully refundable up until September 11. Rates may vary depending upon cabin type selected and occupancy. Please utilize the group code as this directly benefits the Symposium and the amenities we are able to offer attendees. Further details will be released in the coming months via ANS, AMSAT- BB, and the AMSAT Journal. [ANS thanks Clayton W5PFG for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS-US Receives $5,000 Grant from Yasme Foundation The ARISS-US Team is thrilled to announce that it received a $5,000 grant from the Yasme Foundation, awarded to support the development of the power converters needed as a part of an extensive upgrade to the entire ARISS radio system onboard the International Space Station. Ward Silver, N0AX, President of the Yasme Foundation, www.yasme.org, said the Yasme Board decided to support ARISS, in part, as a catalyst for individuals and other groups to follow suit by donating to the radio system cause. Ward commented: ?While you have a long way to go in funding the whole upgrade project, we hope our grant will encourage organizations and individuals to donate to ARISS. Yasme is happy to get that ball rolling.? ARISS International Chair Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, noted that receiving grants from more groups similar to Yasme can result in bigger sponsors being much more likely to donate funds and in-kind resources to the radio project. The 12 ARISS Delegates from around the world had voted in August 2015 to move forward with the planning that will ultimately develop all hardware needed for an upgraded ARISS radio system if funding could be raised. ARISS Chair Bauer, explaining that the power converters are critical to the overall ARISS equipment upgrade, remarked: ?The Yasme grant will jump start the project by allowing the ARISS hardware team to build a prototype converter, purchase critical parts for the flight converters, and further develop the design. We will continue our pursuit of other funding so as to realize the completion of the entire upgrade project.? ARISS-US Delegate Rosalie White, K1STO, thanked Silver for his personal effort in delineating ARISS?s hardware needs and goals to the Yasme Board. She added: ?Garnering the Yasme grant is a major step in helping ARISS progress with our fundraising for the upgraded system. We are elated to know that Yasme has faith in ARISS and its goals of piquing the interest of young people in science, technology, engineering, math, space, communications, and amateur radio.? Just three weeks ago in mid-December, a group of ARISS-US team members were at Johnson Space Center solidifying plans for the design of this next generation radio system. Other groups and individuals interested in supporting ARISS goals through a donation can contact Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, at ka3hdo at verizon.net or can go to the AMSAT Website, www.amsat.org, and submit a donation directly using the ARISS Donate button. ARISS rewards a beautiful ARISS Challenge Coin to donors giving $100.00 or more. About ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. [ANS thanks Yasme ans ARISS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Best Fist Nominations Due Ray Soifer, W2RS, would like to thank to all who participated in AMSAT's Straight Key Night on OSCAR 2016. If you haven't already done so, please take a moment to nominate someone you worked for Best Fist. Your nominee need not have had the best fist of those you heard, only of those you worked. Send your nomination to w2rs at amsat.org [ANS thanks Ray W2RS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Your 2015 Space Symposium Photos Needed! AMSAT Journal Editor, Joe Kornowski KB6IGK, reports that the AMSAT Journal needs your photos from the 33rd Space Symposium in October 2015. Please send your hi-res photos, with captions if possible, to journal at amsat.org by January 17. [ANS thanks Joe KB6IGK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS Commemorative SSTV Event Update The SSTV commemoration of the first ARISS contact events is now tentatively planned for January 16. The transmission mode will be PD120. Because preparations are still in process, it is suggested that you stay tuned to AMSAT-BB and the AMSAT and ARISS web site for the latest information on this event. [ANS thanks ARISS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News + A Successful contact was made between Frederick W. Harnett Middle School, Blackstone, Massachusetts, USA and Astronaut Timothy Peake KG5BVI using Callsign NA1SS. The contact began 2016-01-05 17:42 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was telebridged via K6DUE. ARISS Mentor was AJ9N. This represents ARISS' 981st contact. + A Successful contact was made between Sandringham School, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, UK and Astronaut Timothy Peake KG5BVI using Callsign GB1SS. The contact began 2016-01-08 08:47:47 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was direct via GB1SAN. ARISS Mentor was M?XTD. This represents ARISS' 982nd contact. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS. The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-13 11:35:44 UTC ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ARISS Commemorative SSTV Event Update The SSTV commemoration of the first ARISS contact events is now tentatively planned for January 16. The transmission mode will be PD120. Because preparations are still in process, it is suggested that you stay tuned to AMSAT-BB and the AMSAT and ARISS web site for the latest information on this event and others that ARISS plans to conduct over the next few months. Remember that the official page for all things ARISS is www.ariss.org [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + Satellite Operations from Cowtown Hamfest, January 15-16 Keith Pugh W5IU, reports that the Cowtown Hamfest in Forest Hill, Texas, a suburg of Fort Worth, will be held Friday and Saturday, 15- 16 January. Keith intends be on the air for as many passes as he can during the hamfest hours. [ANS thanks Keith W5IU for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM (Former KC8YLD) kc8yld at amsat dot org From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Sun Jan 10 02:08:16 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:08:16 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Regular Arrow vs. Alaskan Arrow In-Reply-To: <56915B0E.6010909@druidnetworks.com> References: <56915B0E.6010909@druidnetworks.com> Message-ID: <5691BD10.6090408@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> On 2016?01?10? 04:10, Dave Swanson wrote: > Third, as mentioned many times by others, the AKA is big and heavy. As > Jeff, NI3B, said a while back in a post "Holding one of those things > up in the air for fourteen minutes and your arms will look like Popeye > the Sailor Man at LOS." Combine this with my distaste for tripods, and > you can see where we've got an issue. Well, actually after that I indeed did get a tripod. (Some of us are mere desk workers and do not have the advantage of buffing ourselves up via splitting wood, so I had to find some other way to keep the antenna aimed accurately.) What I ended up doing was, I homebrewed a mount out of some PVC pipe joints and a 1/4" bolt that fits the tripod shoe. The PVC pipe was just large enough to fit over the boom and still allow for lateral movement, so I can still adjust polarization while it's mounted. http://i.imgur.com/gu3L3yC.jpg With the Arrow so mounted, I can still adjust roll (up to 90?, which is enough), pitch, and yaw without feeling like my right arm is on fire when the pass is over. At the moment I'm still using my camera tripod with ball mount (which probably cost more than all my sat gear combined, ugh) but this weekend I'm going to get a dedicated az/el tripod which is lighter and easier to set up in the field. Using this setup, I hope to one day achieve my Holy Grail of sat operation: using the Alaskan Arrow to complete a QSO via FO-29 with actual Alaska. 73 -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at arrl.net www.qrz.com/db/jr2tts From clintbradford at mac.com Sun Jan 10 04:14:08 2016 From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford) Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2016 20:14:08 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! Message-ID: Now THERE'S a guaranteed manner in which to increase attendance: add a cruise cost to air fare. You gotta be kidding. This makes your online pleas for money raising on behalf of AMSAT-NA for satellite projects seem trivial and unnecessary: AMSAT must be loaded if they think this is going to enhance their stature and bank account. This makes me wonder what the true desire is of AMSAT-NA. If it is, indeed, to "disseminate info about and build birds," then the best method available is remote, live, videocasts from presenters. That would cost the presenter NOTHING in transportation costs. It would involve EVERY CONTINENT on the planet. And it would allow the largest possible audiences to "attend." Minimal charge for password access to whatever session one wanted to see ... or a conference package fee ... allow that access to be shown to a classroom or audience ... those fees are TOTAL PROFIT to AMSAT (unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). Overhead costs to AMSAT-NA? Virtually nothing. Largest attendance ever of any AMSAT show in history? Guaranteed. Unless the same minds who thought up "let's take a cruise" are in charge of it ... only then could someone mess up so simple a concept to bring educational sessions to the largest audience. Clint Bradford From k7trkradio at charter.net Sun Jan 10 05:50:27 2016 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 21:50:27 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! Message-ID: <008701d14b6a$cefda140$6cf8e3c0$@charter.net> Gee whiz...sounds like someone has been stuck in the double-wide too long.. (Good Old Clint, ever the optimist...) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clint Bradford Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 8:14 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! Now THERE'S a guaranteed manner in which to increase attendance: add a cruise cost to air fare. You gotta be kidding. This makes your online pleas for money raising on behalf of AMSAT-NA for satellite projects seem trivial and unnecessary: AMSAT must be loaded if they think this is going to enhance their stature and bank account. This makes me wonder what the true desire is of AMSAT-NA. If it is, indeed, to "disseminate info about and build birds," then the best method available is remote, live, videocasts from presenters. That would cost the presenter NOTHING in transportation costs. It would involve EVERY CONTINENT on the planet. And it would allow the largest possible audiences to "attend." Minimal charge for password access to whatever session one wanted to see ... or a conference package fee ... allow that access to be shown to a classroom or audience ... those fees are TOTAL PROFIT to AMSAT (unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). Overhead costs to AMSAT-NA? Virtually nothing. Largest attendance ever of any AMSAT show in history? Guaranteed. Unless the same minds who thought up "let's take a cruise" are in charge of it ... only then could someone mess up so simple a concept to bring educational sessions to the largest audience. Clint Bradford _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 11:59:27 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:59:27 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005601d14b9e$5b9e1de0$12da59a0$@GMAIL.COM> Clint, You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a valuable service, but it has very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as long as you recognize it. Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and viewpoints in AMSAT who can understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you deride. AMSAT has many functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great effect and economy, but at least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard as it may be to believe, some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance to combine a family friendly cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get some details and balance, and see what plays out over the next few months. I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is what Gulf grids they will activate? 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <005601d14b9e$5b9e1de0$12da59a0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: Clint, Alan?s comments are well stated. Let me add a little more information. The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was assembled by Clayton, W5PFG. One of his major goals was to create a ?family friendly? venue. Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham members of the family can attend and have a good time? You object to the cost of a cruise. The reality is that most cruises are similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference facilities and restaurants) *with* meals. Note that the Symposium is not a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially. Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings mimics that of academic conferences. This is important to the U.S. Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations. Unfortunately, a virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements. I think Clayton?s idea is a good one. Will attendance be up or down from recent Symposiums? I don?t know, and we won?t know until we try. I think it has a very good chance to be successful. AMSAT does a lot of experimenting with most of our activities. Every Symposium is an experiment. In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of volunteers. Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA. Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland and DC area. In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work, and assembled a proposal. Note that Clayton is an active satellite operator and an active rover. He is not an AMSAT board member or officer. He?s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend. 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan" wrote: >Clint, > >You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a >valuable service, but it has >very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as >long as you recognize it. >Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and >viewpoints in AMSAT who can >understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you >deride. AMSAT has many >functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great >effect and economy, but at >least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard >as it may be to believe, >some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance >to combine a family friendly >cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get >some details and balance, and >see what plays out over the next few months. > >I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is >what Gulf grids they will >activate? > >73s, > >Alan >WA4SCA > > > ><-----Original Message----- >Bradford > >< >< >< >< ><(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). >< >< >< ><_______________________________________________ >Opinions expressed >AMSAT-NA. >program! > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From seb at wintek.com Sun Jan 10 13:53:29 2016 From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen E. Belter) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:53:29 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] G-500A Controller Bulb Replacement In-Reply-To: <56906BAD.5000209@optonline.net> References: <56906BAD.5000209@optonline.net> Message-ID: Tony, I didn?t see a response to your query, so let me try to help. I?ve not replaced the bulb in a G-500A, but I have replaced them in a G-5400B which is an Az/El version of the G-500A. The meter illumination is provided by a 12V incandescent bulb located above the meter face that is soldered to a small circuit board. If you know how to solder, it is a simple replacement. However, the replacement incandescent bulb can also burn out and requirement replacement. I?ve replaced the illumination on my controller with pairs of LEDs, one pair above each meter. You?ll need to check the schematic for your controller, but from memory, I think the power for the light was 12VDC. Or that there was 12VDC available. I put two LEDs in series and used something like a 680-ohm current-limiting resistor. The best value for you will depend on the LEDs. Hope this helps. 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com On 1/8/16, 9:08 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Tony" wrote: >All: > >Need to replace the bulb that illuminates the meter on a Yaesu G-500A >elevation controller and I was wondering if anyone had done this before. >I'm assuming the bulb is located somewhere in the vicinity of the meter, >but not seeing it by looking through the meter window. > >Thanks... > >Tony -K2MO >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk0sd at tnics.com Sun Jan 10 13:59:46 2016 From: kk0sd at tnics.com (Gary Or Terri Mayfield) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 07:59:46 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] G-500A Controller Bulb Replacement Message-ID: <569263d2.295f.ae4e4b70.35b07599@tnics.com> Someone pointed you at my web page. I was flattered, but will mention it again as apparently it did not go out to all. http://www.kk0sd.net/rotorlight/Yaesu.htm 73 and Enjoy, Gary 'Joe' kk0sd > > --- Original message --- > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-500A Controller Bulb Replacement > From: Stephen E. Belter > To: Tony , amsat-bb at amsat.org > Date: Sunday, 10/01/2016 7:53 AM > > Tony, > > I didn?t see a response to your query, so let me try to help. I?ve > not > replaced the bulb in a G-500A, but I have replaced them in a G-5400B > which > is an Az/El version of the G-500A. > > The meter illumination is provided by a 12V incandescent bulb located > above the meter face that is soldered to a small circuit board. If > you > know how to solder, it is a simple replacement. > > However, the replacement incandescent bulb can also burn out and > requirement replacement. > > I?ve replaced the illumination on my controller with pairs of LEDs, > one > pair above each meter. You?ll need to check the schematic for your > controller, but from memory, I think the power for the light was > 12VDC. > Or that there was 12VDC available. > > I put two LEDs in series and used something like a 680-ohm > current-limiting resistor. The best value for you will depend on the > LEDs. > > Hope this helps. > > 73, Steve N9IP > -- > Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com > > > > > > > On 1/8/16, 9:08 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Tony" > wrote: > >> >> All: >> >> Need to replace the bulb that illuminates the meter on a Yaesu G-500A >> elevation controller and I was wondering if anyone had done this >> before. >> I'm assuming the bulb is located somewhere in the vicinity of the >> meter, >> but not seeing it by looking through the meter window. >> >> Thanks... >> >> Tony -K2MO >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From lists at rudn.com Sun Jan 10 16:18:30 2016 From: lists at rudn.com (Jeff Breitner) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:18:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56928456.2030707@rudn.com> On 1/9/16 11:14 PM, Clint Bradford wrote: > Overhead costs to AMSAT-NA? Virtually nothing. Largest attendance > ever of any AMSAT show in history? Guaranteed. > > Unless the same minds who thought up "let's take a cruise" are in charge > of it ... only then could someone mess up so simple a concept to bring > educational sessions to the largest audience. > Pulling off remote sessions like that have a very real and potentially large cost because it is far beyond the scope of GotoMeeting or Facetime. In order to not have it look like a high school television station newscast, you need to pay professionals who do this sort of thing for a living. I do not disagree that making these sessions available to the widest audience possible is important, and that there are some benefits to leveraging the internet to do so. But it's not cheap. From k8bl at ameritech.net Sun Jan 10 17:07:34 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64726780.2969218.1452445654609.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> For comparison purposes, my wife and I have found the following: We usually go stay with relatives in Texas and Florida for the Winterfor several weeks at a time. To avoid getting sick of each other, wetake a week and give them/us a break. We have found that taking acruise is much cheaper than motels/meals/travel/entertainment. So,the idea of a Cruise/Symposium sounds very good. There are manyin the 3 and 4 day category that would be well-suited - IMHO.73, ? Bob K8BL From: Stephen E. Belter To: 'AMSAT BB' Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! Clint, Alan?s comments are well stated.? Let me add a little more information. The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was assembled by Clayton, W5PFG.? One of his major goals was to create a ?family friendly? venue.? Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham members of the family can attend and have a good time? You object to the cost of a cruise.? The reality is that most cruises are similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference facilities and restaurants) *with* meals.? Note that the Symposium is not a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially. Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings mimics that of academic conferences.? This is important to the U.S. Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations.? Unfortunately, a virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements. I think Clayton?s idea is a good one.? Will attendance be up or down from recent Symposiums?? I don?t know, and we won?t know until we try.? I think it has a very good chance to be successful.? AMSAT does a lot of experimenting with most of our activities.? Every Symposium is an experiment. In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of volunteers.? Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA. Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland and DC area. In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work, and assembled a proposal.? Note that Clayton is an active satellite operator and an active rover.? He is not an AMSAT board member or officer. He?s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend. 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan" wrote: >Clint, > >You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a >valuable service, but it has >very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as >long as you recognize it. >Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and >viewpoints in AMSAT who can >understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you >deride. AMSAT has many >functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great >effect and economy, but at >least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard >as it may be to believe, >some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance >to combine a family friendly >cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get >some details and balance, and >see what plays out over the next few months. > >I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is >what Gulf grids they will >activate? > >73s, > >Alan >WA4SCA > > > ><-----Original Message----- >Bradford > >< >< >< >< ><(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). >< >< >< ><_______________________________________________ >Opinions expressed >AMSAT-NA. >program! > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From vlfiscus at mcn.net Sun Jan 10 17:27:26 2016 From: vlfiscus at mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:27:26 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Small-Satellite Launch Vehicles Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20160110102022.00c2d370@pop.earthlink.net> Launch opportunities for us may be on the rise. A market for cubesats and other small satellites is driving development of low-cost launch vehicles. http://aviationweek.com/space/emerging-small-satellite-launch-vehicles#slide-0-field_images-1389141 KB7ADL From johnag9d at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 17:35:37 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (John Spasojevich) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:35:37 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: <64726780.2969218.1452445654609.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <64726780.2969218.1452445654609.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't disagree completely with Clint, that said, if you have cruised before you know that it can be as expensive ( Penthouse Suite on the top deck) or as inexpensive (inside stateroom on the lowest passenger deck) as you like. I've only been on one Carnival ship and it was out of Galveston, the next to last trip out before Hurricane Ike came ashore. I have cruised on another line and Carnival was ok, the only issue I has was personal I guess..and maybe it was more because it was Texas than the line...but watching a group of guys spitting tobacco juice on the carpet in one of the show lounges was not fun. Anyway....if you are going alone....and don't need a porthole or balcony, I'd suggest you see about what they call the Class 1A stateroom...they are good for single travelers but can hold 2 people (some ships are now fitted with cabins specifically for one person, Liberty is not so there is usually a surcharge for one person in a cabin vs. double). So if cost is a concern, there are ways to work around it. Remember....your cabin is mainly to sleep in, typically you won't spend a lot of time in it on a cruise so save your money on the room, you get everything the ship has to offer. The timing is bad for a single dad with a kid still in H.S. so I won't be there. Smooth Sailing & 73, John - AG9D On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > For comparison purposes, my wife and I have found the following: > We usually go stay with relatives in Texas and Florida for the Winterfor > several weeks at a time. To avoid getting sick of each other, wetake a week > and give them/us a break. We have found that taking acruise is much cheaper > than motels/meals/travel/entertainment. So,the idea of a Cruise/Symposium > sounds very good. There are manyin the 3 and 4 day category that would be > well-suited - IMHO.73, Bob K8BL > From: Stephen E. Belter > To: 'AMSAT BB' > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:39 AM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! > > Clint, > > Alan?s comments are well stated. Let me add a little more information. > > The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was > assembled by Clayton, W5PFG. One of his major goals was to create a > ?family friendly? venue. Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham > members of the family can attend and have a good time? > > You object to the cost of a cruise. The reality is that most cruises are > similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference > facilities and restaurants) *with* meals. Note that the Symposium is not > a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially. > > Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings > mimics that of academic conferences. This is important to the U.S. > Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations. Unfortunately, a > virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements. > > I think Clayton?s idea is a good one. Will attendance be up or down from > recent Symposiums? I don?t know, and we won?t know until we try. I think > it has a very good chance to be successful. AMSAT does a lot of > experimenting with most of our activities. Every Symposium is an > experiment. > > In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of > volunteers. Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA. > Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland > and DC area. > > In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work, > and assembled a proposal. Note that Clayton is an active satellite > operator and an active rover. He is not an AMSAT board member or officer. > He?s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend. > > 73, Steve N9IP > -- > Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com > > > > > On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan" > wrote: > > >Clint, > > > >You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a > >valuable service, but it has > >very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as > >long as you recognize it. > >Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and > >viewpoints in AMSAT who can > >understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you > >deride. AMSAT has many > >functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great > >effect and economy, but at > >least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard > >as it may be to believe, > >some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance > >to combine a family friendly > >cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get > >some details and balance, and > >see what plays out over the next few months. > > > >I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is > >what Gulf grids they will > >activate? > > > >73s, > > > >Alan > >WA4SCA > > > > > > > ><-----Original Message----- > > >Bradford > > > > > >< > > > >< > > >< > > > > > >< > > > > > > > > > > ><(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). > >< > > > >< > > > > >< > > ><_______________________________________________ > > > >Opinions expressed > > >AMSAT-NA. > > >program! > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >Opinions expressed > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >AMSAT-NA. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bobsmacbox at yahoo.com Sun Jan 10 17:59:03 2016 From: bobsmacbox at yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 12:59:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! References: Message-ID: Thanks to Clayton, a non-board member, just a regular member like the rest of us who stepped up to the bat to have us try something new. I remember when amateur satellites were new to me. It was exciting and different - like this new venture. I am sure that, with all of the quantitative expertise on the board, AMSAT has evaluated the cost-benefits of this venture and it passed. Great to try something new. NZ2Z Bob - Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: John Spasojevich > Date: January 10, 2016 at 12:35:37 PM EST > To: "R.T.Liddy" > Cc: AMSAT BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! > > I don't disagree completely with Clint, that said, if you have cruised > before you know that it can be as expensive ( Penthouse Suite on the top > deck) or as inexpensive (inside stateroom on the lowest passenger deck) as > you like. I've only been on one Carnival ship and it was out of Galveston, > the next to last trip out before Hurricane Ike came ashore. I have cruised > on another line and Carnival was ok, the only issue I has was personal I > guess..and maybe it was more because it was Texas than the line...but > watching a group of guys spitting tobacco juice on the carpet in one of the > show lounges was not fun. Anyway....if you are going alone....and don't > need a porthole or balcony, I'd suggest you see about what they call the > Class 1A stateroom...they are good for single travelers but can hold 2 > people (some ships are now fitted with cabins specifically for one person, > Liberty is not so there is usually a surcharge for one person in a cabin > vs. double). So if cost is a concern, there are ways to work around it. > Remember....your cabin is mainly to sleep in, typically you won't spend a > lot of time in it on a cruise so save your money on the room, you get > everything the ship has to offer. The timing is bad for a single dad with > a kid still in H.S. so I won't be there. > > Smooth Sailing & 73, > > John - AG9D > >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote: >> >> For comparison purposes, my wife and I have found the following: >> We usually go stay with relatives in Texas and Florida for the Winterfor >> several weeks at a time. To avoid getting sick of each other, wetake a week >> and give them/us a break. We have found that taking acruise is much cheaper >> than motels/meals/travel/entertainment. So,the idea of a Cruise/Symposium >> sounds very good. There are manyin the 3 and 4 day category that would be >> well-suited - IMHO.73, Bob K8BL >> From: Stephen E. Belter >> To: 'AMSAT BB' >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! >> >> Clint, >> >> Alan?s comments are well stated. Let me add a little more information. >> >> The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was >> assembled by Clayton, W5PFG. One of his major goals was to create a >> ?family friendly? venue. Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham >> members of the family can attend and have a good time? >> >> You object to the cost of a cruise. The reality is that most cruises are >> similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference >> facilities and restaurants) *with* meals. Note that the Symposium is not >> a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially. >> >> Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings >> mimics that of academic conferences. This is important to the U.S. >> Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations. Unfortunately, a >> virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements. >> >> I think Clayton?s idea is a good one. Will attendance be up or down from >> recent Symposiums? I don?t know, and we won?t know until we try. I think >> it has a very good chance to be successful. AMSAT does a lot of >> experimenting with most of our activities. Every Symposium is an >> experiment. >> >> In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of >> volunteers. Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA. >> Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland >> and DC area. >> >> In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work, >> and assembled a proposal. Note that Clayton is an active satellite >> operator and an active rover. He is not an AMSAT board member or officer. >> He?s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend. >> >> 73, Steve N9IP >> -- >> Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com >> >> >> >> >> On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan" >> wrote: >> >>> Clint, >>> >>> You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a >>> valuable service, but it has >>> very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as >>> long as you recognize it. >>> Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and >>> viewpoints in AMSAT who can >>> understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you >>> deride. AMSAT has many >>> functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great >>> effect and economy, but at >>> least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard >>> as it may be to believe, >>> some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance >>> to combine a family friendly >>> cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get >>> some details and balance, and >>> see what plays out over the next few months. >>> >>> I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is >>> what Gulf grids they will >>> activate? >>> >>> 73s, >>> >>> Alan >>> WA4SCA >>> >>> >>> >>> <-----Original Message----- >>> >> Bradford >>> >> >>> >> < >>> >> >> < >>> >> < >>> >> >> >> >> < >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). >>> < >>> >> >> < >>> >> >> >> < >>> >> <_______________________________________________ >>> >> >> Opinions expressed >>> >> AMSAT-NA. >>> >> program! >>> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From redski at bellsouth.net Sun Jan 10 19:04:25 2016 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M Willoughby) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:04:25 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! Message-ID: <03db01d14bd9$b9b50610$2d1f1230$@bellsouth.net> I think it is a great idea to try the cruise venue. I don't see how my wife could possibly object to being on a cruise while I am in satellite presentations and I know she would enjoy meeting some of my radio friends. If the attendance is particularly low, we will know not to try it again! I just hope Carnival will be cooperative about a bunch of hams waving satellite antennas around. Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the AMSAT Journal about a year from now. From marklhammond at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 19:08:29 2016 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:08:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4K8V1s00C5LoKnP01K8Vi7@gmail.com> Hello Mike, The good news is that DUV works with the IC-910, no mods. For the IC-910 you need to use the same port and pin as used for 9600 full duplex satellite mode packet. I *think* it's MAIN data port pin 4----but do NOT trust me :) Too many radios, and too many flip-flops of main vs. sub on the different radios. Make sure menu settings are proper for 9600 satellite packet, too, or the audio won't be coming from the right source. Another HUGELY important matter---the sound card you are inputting into. With the IC-910 at my QTH, the built-in sound card in the PC motherboard works pretty well, using Line In. However, an external Apple USB audio dongle device will NOT work--it cuts off the lowe frequency and won't print any telemetry. So, even having the right port and pin isn't enough--make sure your sound card works, too! 73, Mark N8MH >Message: 5 >Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:45:47 -0700 >From: "Mike McConnell" >To: >Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help >Message-ID: <006101d14a87$d8625b60$89271220$@elp.rr.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I am trying to get the DUV telemetry working here. I have the Audio from my >IC-910H ACC Socket (Pin 5 AF) feeding my computer with no luck on decode. >Should I be obtaining the audio instead from the Data output 9600 pin 4? > > > >Thanks > > > > > >W0PD > >Michael McConnell, Ph D. > >Horizon City, TX 79928 > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 22:06:14 -0500 >From: Burns Fisher >To: Mike McConnell >Cc: AMSAT BB >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Hi MIke, > >Yes, you certainly need to take it from data out. Normal audio will filter >out the lows below a few hundred hertz, and that is right where the DUV >data is. Check the specs though...sometime rigs take out all filtering on >9600 baud packet. Some take out only the filtering on the high end. So >you may have to hack a wire in on the other side of all the filtering. > >Burns W2BFJ > > >On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Mike McConnell wrote: > >> I am trying to get the DUV telemetry working here. I have the Audio from my >> IC-910H ACC Socket (Pin 5 AF) feeding my computer with no luck on decode. >> Should I be obtaining the audio instead from the Data output 9600 pin 4? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> W0PD >> >> Michael McConnell, Ph D. >> >> Horizon City, TX 79928 From johnag9d at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 20:09:45 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (John Spasojevich) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:09:45 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Contact Wednesday Message-ID: Please join us in listening to the ISS contact with participants at *Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy* on Wednesday 13 January. AOS is anticipated at 1135 UTC The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK5ZAI in South Australia. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Audio from this contact will be fed into the: EchoLink *AMSAT* Server (101377) IRLP Node 9010 - Discovery Reflector Streaming Audio available on https://sites.google.com/site/arissaudio/ Audio on Echolink & web stream is generally transmitted around 20 minutes prior to the contact taking place so that you can hear some of the preparation that occurs. IRLP will begin just prior to the ground station call to the ISS. Please note that breaks on IRLP and Echolink are manual, connected repeaters may time out. ** Contact times are approximate. If the ISS executes a reboost or other maneuver, the AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) time may alter by a few minutes ** 73, John - AG9D ARISS Audio Distribution From n0jy at amsat.org Sun Jan 10 20:33:22 2016 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:33:22 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: <03db01d14bd9$b9b50610$2d1f1230$@bellsouth.net> References: <03db01d14bd9$b9b50610$2d1f1230$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <5692C012.7090000@amsat.org> Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD, too! :-D Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote: > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the > AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > > > From wa4sca at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 20:58:50 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:58:50 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: <5692C012.7090000@amsat.org> References: <03db01d14bd9$b9b50610$2d1f1230$@bellsouth.net> <5692C012.7090000@amsat.org> Message-ID: <000201d14be9$b5492d30$1fdb8790$@GMAIL.COM> And meanwhile on the bridge, they are frantically trying to find where the sextants are stored because the GPS says they are either in Hawaii or the Sahara Desert. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on <> deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking <> to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the <> AMSAT Journal about a year from now. <> <> <> < <_______________________________________________ Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ... -------- Original message -------- From: Jerry Buxton Date: 01/10/2016 14:33 (GMT-06:00) To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD, too!??? :-D Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote: > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the > AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From edc2491 at cox.net Sun Jan 10 22:03:31 2016 From: edc2491 at cox.net (Ed Cunningham) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:03:31 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT Message-ID: <000e01d14bf2$be589420$3b09bc60$@cox.net> Remember, once you set foot on a cruise ship you are in another country and must have an amateur radio license issued by the country the ship is registered in. You must also have permission from the company and the captain of the ship. Ed, N7EC From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Jan 10 22:16:50 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:16:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: <000e01d14bf2$be589420$3b09bc60$@cox.net> References: <000e01d14bf2$be589420$3b09bc60$@cox.net> Message-ID: The Carnival Liberty is registered in Panama. An IARP will suffice and those are easy to get. Carnival generally allows operating, but, of course we still need to get permission from the Captain. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sunday, January 10, 2016, Ed Cunningham wrote: > Remember, once you set foot on a cruise ship you are in another country and > must have an amateur radio license issued by the country the ship is > registered in. You must also have permission from the company and the > captain of the ship. > > > > Ed, N7EC > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From johnag9d at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 22:49:20 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (John Spasojevich) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:49:20 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: <67j4y1if4ipoyiv2se7m95bo.1452462359079@email.android.com> References: <67j4y1if4ipoyiv2se7m95bo.1452462359079@email.android.com> Message-ID: Hams....on a cruise ship....with an unlimited amount of food...... OMG! John AG9D On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Glenn Anderson wrote: > Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ... > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Jerry Buxton > Date: 01/10/2016 14:33 (GMT-06:00) > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > > Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD, > too! :-D > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote: > > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and > talking > > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for > the > > AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From redski at bellsouth.net Sun Jan 10 23:42:19 2016 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M Willoughby) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:42:19 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT Message-ID: <001001d14c00$8c33c8d0$a49b5a70$@bellsouth.net> I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad. From bruninga at usna.edu Sun Jan 10 23:55:50 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 18:55:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: <03db01d14bd9$b9b50610$2d1f1230$@bellsouth.net> References: <03db01d14bd9$b9b50610$2d1f1230$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: I think the cruise is a good idea. My only thought about it is that some wives are very high maintenance, possibly placing the ham in a lose-lose situation being split apart by dual loyalties. Or he can try to go alone, and face other consequenceis. It will be an interesting challenge... On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 2:04 PM, W M Willoughby wrote: > I think it is a great idea to try the cruise venue. I don't see how my wife > could possibly object to being on a cruise while I am in satellite > presentations and I know she would enjoy meeting some of my radio friends. > If the attendance is particularly low, we will know not to try it again! I > just hope Carnival will be cooperative about a bunch of hams waving > satellite antennas around. Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and > talking > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the > AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w5pfg at amsat.org Sun Jan 10 23:57:59 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:57:59 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: <001001d14c00$8c33c8d0$a49b5a70$@bellsouth.net> References: <001001d14c00$8c33c8d0$a49b5a70$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <5692F007.2010506@amsat.org> There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple. My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom. The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote: > I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the > info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium > webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all > necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad. From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon Jan 11 00:48:41 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 00:48:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: <5692F007.2010506@amsat.org> References: <001001d14c00$8c33c8d0$a49b5a70$@bellsouth.net> <5692F007.2010506@amsat.org> Message-ID: Hi! It appears that the process for a non-Panamanian amateur operator to legally operate from a Panamanian-registered ship is simple. For amateur operators in some North and South American countries, including the USA and Canada, the IARP is the way to go. If the foreign operator cannot obtain an IARP, a temporary Panamanian amateur permit is available. For IARP holders, there is also a notification that appears to be required - a notice sent to the Panamanian Department of Communications, part of the Ministry of Government and Justice. This information is listed on the Radio Club de Panama web site: http://www.qsl.net/hp1rcp/PANAMA%20AMATEUR%20RADIO%20LICENSING%20INFORMATION.htm A notification is much simpler than having to apply for a temporary operating permit. Hopefully this step is what it appears to be in that link above - a formality. This page refers to operating from Panamanian territory, and is silent on the topic of maritime mobile operation from a Panamanian-flagged ship. Since a ship can be considered an extension of the country of its registration, this is hopefully not a problem in the eyes of the Panamanian authorities. On the other hand, I would not expect there is any chance of obtaining permission to operate in Cozumel or Mexican territorial waters. In the past couple of years, the regulator for amateur licensing in Mexico changed. So far, the new regulator (Federal Telecommunications Institute, also known by abbreviations IFT or IFETEL) has not issued new amateur licenses or permits. IFT has been renewing existing amateur licenses, and even in the past the process to get a temporary amateur permit to operate in Mexico was not easy - or cheap. In US territorial waters, it is simple. If you have a US amateur license, or a foreign license recognized by the FCC, you can operate. All of this, of course, depends on having permission from the ship's captain to use radio gear onboard. I did not know that Carnival has a ham-friendly reputation, but that was mentioned in a presentation given by Allen Mattis N5AFV at the 2013 AMSAT Symposium in Houston. Allen talked about his experiences operating from cruise ships and getting licensed to operate from the ships (among other topics). A video of that 2013 presentation is available at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBuGjHSH2U The slideshow from Allen's 2013 Symposium presentation is available at: http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~bklofas/Presentations/AMSAT-NA_Symposium2013/Mattis_Satellites_from_Cruise_Ships.pdf This is an interesting plan for a Symposium, and being able to operate on the ship would be a nice thing along with the normal Symposium activities and the day in Cozumel. It is good that the Symposium FAQ was updated today with more information on the costs of the cruise, beyond the $150 deposit. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to > come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple. > From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jan 11 01:34:27 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (kb2m at arrl.net) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 20:34:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: <67j4y1if4ipoyiv2se7m95bo.1452462359079@email.android.com> References: <67j4y1if4ipoyiv2se7m95bo.1452462359079@email.android.com> Message-ID: <123501d14c10$369ea790$a3dbf6b0$@net> If it's like any of the cruises I've been on it's more like pick up 4 adult beverages..... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Anderson Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 16:46 PM To: Jerry Buxton; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ... From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Jan 11 02:34:13 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: <000e01d14bf2$be589420$3b09bc60$@cox.net> References: <000e01d14bf2$be589420$3b09bc60$@cox.net> Message-ID: <642092484.3148200.1452479653154.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Well, I can tell you that the IRS doesn't think so if youwin big in the Casino!!! ?I KNOW!! ? ?- Bob K8BL From: Ed Cunningham To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:03 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT Remember, once you set foot on a cruise ship you are in another country and must have an amateur radio license issued by the country the ship is registered in.? You must also have permission from the company and the captain of the ship.? Ed, N7EC _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From goody.k3ng at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 02:44:16 2016 From: goody.k3ng at gmail.com (Goody K3NG) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 21:44:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: <123501d14c10$369ea790$a3dbf6b0$@net> References: <67j4y1if4ipoyiv2se7m95bo.1452462359079@email.android.com> <123501d14c10$369ea790$a3dbf6b0$@net> Message-ID: This cruise sounds like the Love Boat but with lots of RF and satellites. Wish I could go. :-) On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:34 PM, wrote: > If it's like any of the cruises I've been on it's more like pick up 4 > adult beverages..... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Glenn > Anderson > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 16:46 PM > To: Jerry Buxton; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > > Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From va6bmj at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 03:48:09 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 03:48:09 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817 Message-ID: I've made several attempts to work this bird with my '817, since it's winter where I live and setting up my IC-910 on my balcony would be impractical. I programmed my radio with the nominal uplink and downlink at 435.180 and 145.980, respectively. I haven't made any contacts so far, so I'm wondering if I should adjust the uplink closer to 435.172. (I'm assuming, of course, that I haven't been blacklisted or some such thing, hi.) Please advise. Thank you. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From whattwood at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 03:55:07 2016 From: whattwood at gmail.com (Bill Attwood) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 20:55:07 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bernhard, It's been stated that the uplink frequency is about 10KHz lower than published. You'll want to start around 435.160 and end around 435.180 Some have found it easier to make it into the bird for the second half of the pass. The antenna polarization is the same for RX & TX so if you're using an Arrow you'll want to twist it to the weakest receive signal before transmitting. Good luck, hope to catch you on! Bill VE6WK Regards, Bill On Jan 10, 2016 8:48 PM, "B J" wrote: > I've made several attempts to work this bird with my '817, since it's > winter where I live and setting up my IC-910 on my balcony would be > impractical. > > I programmed my radio with the nominal uplink and downlink at 435.180 > and 145.980, respectively. I haven't made any contacts so far, so I'm > wondering if I should adjust the uplink closer to 435.172. (I'm > assuming, of course, that I haven't been blacklisted or some such > thing, hi.) > > Please advise. Thank you. > > 73s > > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From framirezferrer at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 04:25:51 2016 From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 21:25:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just to echo Bill's advice and relate my own experience. I don't have any experience with the 817 as I use a 5 watts Chinese HT. I programmed 5 channels on my radio with 435.160 as AOS through 435.180 LOS and 435.170 for mid pass. Since I operate half duplex (I don't encourage this due to all the obvious reasons), I divide the arc on my tracking app in 5 segments to find the correct uplink frequency. The antenna I use is an Arrow II. You will tune for clear signal then twist 90? to transmit. Twist again to receive. I understand Elk users don't have a problem with this since both bands use the same polarity. Following this pass pattern, I've gotten into the satellite down to 6 degrees elevations. Also, I am only able to work the satellite on ascending passes (south to north) after it crosses the satellite apex. It's is hard but doable! 73 Fernando, NP4JV On Jan 10, 2016 8:48 PM, "B J" wrote: I've made several attempts to work this bird with my '817, since it's winter where I live and setting up my IC-910 on my balcony would be impractical. I programmed my radio with the nominal uplink and downlink at 435.180 and 145.980, respectively. I haven't made any contacts so far, so I'm wondering if I should adjust the uplink closer to 435.172. (I'm assuming, of course, that I haven't been blacklisted or some such thing, hi.) Please advise. Thank you. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va6bmj at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 04:41:44 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 04:41:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 1/11/16, Fernando Ramirez wrote: > Just to echo Bill's advice and relate my own experience. > > I don't have any experience with the 817 as I use a 5 watts Chinese HT. > > I programmed 5 channels on my radio with 435.160 as AOS through 435.180 LOS > and 435.170 for mid pass. That's how I set up my '817. > > Since I operate half duplex (I don't encourage this due to all the obvious > reasons), It would be fun unless there were challenges, hi. I divide the arc on my tracking app in 5 segments to find the > correct uplink frequency. That's what I did for other FM birds like AO-27 and AO-51. > > The antenna I use is an Arrow II. You will tune for clear signal then twist > 90? to transmit. Twist again to receive. I understand Elk users don't have > a problem with this since both bands use the same polarity. That might explain a few things. I don't recall having to do that for the earlier FM satellites that I was on. > > Following this pass pattern, I've gotten into the satellite down to 6 > degrees elevations. Also, I am only able to work the satellite on ascending > passes (south to north) after it crosses the satellite apex. I'll keep that in mind, particularly since the quadrant to my NW is clear of obstructions. > > It's is hard but doable! Thanks for the tips. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From g0mrf at aol.com Mon Jan 11 09:33:19 2016 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 04:33:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: <5692F007.2010506@amsat.org> Message-ID: <152300858ab-132d-9a9f@webprd-m33.mail.aol.com> FYI 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA. 10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find. 73 David -----Original Message----- From: Clayton W5PFG To: amsat-bb CC: W M Willoughby Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple. My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom. The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote: > I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the > info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium > webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all > necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad. _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Mon Jan 11 12:33:32 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd, JR2TTS/AB3UR) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:33:32 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] It's about time! FO-29 successfully worked! Message-ID: I finally made it into FO-29 this afternoon from PM85il, working stations JA3RVS and JA3FWT. I also heard JR8LWY calling me, but wasn't able to return the call. Oh well -- my first-ever QSOs on a SSB satellite! The recording: https://soundcloud.com/minus2c/fo-29-pass-jan-11-2016-1426jst (My QSOs are at about 4 minutes into the recording.) At this point I must make a confession: I did what I should have done in the first place, and bought another FT857D. At US$650 new there was really no way I could resist. It was also borne out of a bit of frustration -- I tested the IC-706 up, down, and sideways and it appears to be working fine... but it seemed to not play nice with SATPC32 a lot of the time, it was kind of hard to control during hectic SSB sat passes, and it just wasn't making it into the bird. So I splurged. Screw it. The 706 will probably end up being a dedicated 2m SSB and 6m rig. I needed one for the shack anyway (my FTDX1200 can't do 2 meters, and my HTs are FM only of course). Anyway, now armed with two of the same rig that are going to finally cooperate, I went out to the usual spot and set up. The above recording is the result. The first thing I realized was, the signal is way down in the noise even at the top of the pass (27 degrees this time around) with the Arrow aimed in the right place. I was correcting for polarization and everything but this was as good as I managed to get. Take-aways from this: 1. I think I need a preamp. FO-29 is at pretty high altitude for a LEO sat so if I want the real prize (QSOs with Alaska and Hawaii) I'm going to need a way to bring the signal in when the bird is near the horizon. I would welcome recommendations. 2. I still don't have SATPC32 figured out. I'm supposed to set the uplink frequency offset so it will always be dead on when the bird comes up, but I haven't really found the time to do that because I would have to waste a pass sitting there figuring out how many Hz it was off. Until today, the goal was "get a contact" so I ended up turning the laptop off and just tuning manually. I will spend the time to properly configure the software next time around. 3. I need a field-use CW paddle. The code was coming in much clearer than the phone, and there seemed to be many more CW ops on the bird than anything. All in all a good start I think. A learning experience. -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp www.qrz.com/db/jr2tts TypeApp???? From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Jan 11 12:49:43 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:49:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] It's about time! FO-29 successfully worked! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations! As far as the weak signals - what type of coax are you using and how long is it? Most find that the 857 or 817 don't really need a preamp to work FO-29 horizon to horizon, at least in a clear location. Coax is cheaper than a preamp, so you might want to try it. I use 6' LMR-240 jumpers myself. >From what I know of JA satellite operation, CW is definitely more popular than SSB. The two 73 on 73 Award applications I've received from Japan have shown a large majority of the QSOs on CW. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:33 AM, J. Boyd, JR2TTS/AB3UR < the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote: > I finally made it into FO-29 this afternoon from PM85il, working stations > JA3RVS and JA3FWT. I also heard JR8LWY calling me, but wasn't able to > return the call. Oh well -- my first-ever QSOs on a SSB satellite! > > The recording: > https://soundcloud.com/minus2c/fo-29-pass-jan-11-2016-1426jst (My QSOs > are at about 4 minutes into the recording.) > > At this point I must make a confession: I did what I should have done in > the first place, and bought another FT857D. At US$650 new there was really > no way I could resist. It was also borne out of a bit of frustration -- I > tested the IC-706 up, down, and sideways and it appears to be working > fine... but it seemed to not play nice with SATPC32 a lot of the time, it > was kind of hard to control during hectic SSB sat passes, and it just > wasn't making it into the bird. > > So I splurged. Screw it. The 706 will probably end up being a dedicated 2m > SSB and 6m rig. I needed one for the shack anyway (my FTDX1200 can't do 2 > meters, and my HTs are FM only of course). > > Anyway, now armed with two of the same rig that are going to finally > cooperate, I went out to the usual spot and set up. The above recording is > the result. > The first thing I realized was, the signal is way down in the noise even > at the top of the pass (27 degrees this time around) with the Arrow aimed > in the right place. I was correcting for polarization and everything but > this was as good as I managed to get. > > Take-aways from this: > > 1. I think I need a preamp. FO-29 is at pretty high altitude for a LEO sat > so if I want the real prize (QSOs with Alaska and Hawaii) I'm going to need > a way to bring the signal in when the bird is near the horizon. I would > welcome recommendations. > > 2. I still don't have SATPC32 figured out. I'm supposed to set the uplink > frequency offset so it will always be dead on when the bird comes up, but I > haven't really found the time to do that because I would have to waste a > pass sitting there figuring out how many Hz it was off. Until today, the > goal was "get a contact" so I ended up turning the laptop off and just > tuning manually. I will spend the time to properly configure the software > next time around. > > 3. I need a field-use CW paddle. The code was coming in much clearer than > the phone, and there seemed to be many more CW ops on the bird than > anything. > > All in all a good start I think. A learning experience. > > -- > J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B > the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp > www.qrz.com/db/jr2tts > > TypeApp???? > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From randyw4412 at aol.com Mon Jan 11 13:18:01 2016 From: randyw4412 at aol.com (randyw4412) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:18:01 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT Message-ID: The Wilder Crew is booked. WB4LHD RANDY & JOANN XYL SHOPPER KB4GGC. SEA everyone in November. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6.-------- Original message --------From: David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB Date: 1/11/2016 3:33 AM (GMT-06:00) To: w5pfg at amsat.org, amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT FYI 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA. 10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find. 73 David -----Original Message----- From: Clayton W5PFG To: amsat-bb CC: W M Willoughby Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple. My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom. The most important task today is reserving your cabin space.? AMSAT cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote: > I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the > info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium > webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all > necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad. _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Mon Jan 11 14:00:50 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:00:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C983C7E-5C7C-493C-9035-4BC8C363712F@mindspring.com> Thanks Randy! Just out of curiosity, have you attended Symposium before? 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:18 AM, randyw4412 via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > The Wilder Crew is booked. WB4LHD RANDY & JOANN XYL SHOPPER KB4GGC. SEA everyone in November. > > > Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6.-------- Original message --------From: David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB Date: 1/11/2016 3:33 AM (GMT-06:00) To: w5pfg at amsat.org, amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT > > FYI > 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA. > > 10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find. > > 73 > > David > -----Original Message----- > From: Clayton W5PFG > To: amsat-bb > CC: W M Willoughby > Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58 > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT > > There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to > come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple. > > My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on > the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 > There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom. > > The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT > cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person > deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > >> On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote: >> I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the >> info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium >> webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all >> necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Mon Jan 11 14:37:39 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (Jeff A. Boyd) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:37:39 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] It's about time! FO-29 successfully worked! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160111233739.99C4.63087B45@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:49:43 -0500, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Congratulations! As far as the weak signals - what type of coax are you > using and how long is it? Most find that the 857 or 817 don't really need a > preamp to work FO-29 horizon to horizon, at least in a clear location. Coax > is cheaper than a preamp, so you might want to try it. I use 6' LMR-240 > jumpers myself. That might be what the problem is, then. I hadn't put too much thought into the coax -- I was just using 3-4m lengths of regular old RG58. LMR240 itself would be quite expensive to import, but fortunately there are Japanese-made equivalents like Fujikura 5D-SFA (113dB/km is the only figure I could find on this, if that's useful). http://www.fujikura.co.jp/eng/products/cable/coaxial/cd1211.html > From what I know of JA satellite operation, CW is definitely more popular > than SSB. The two 73 on 73 Award applications I've received from Japan have > shown a large majority of the QSOs on CW. Time to start polishing my in-head CW copy speed... 73 -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C From ingejack at cox.net Mon Jan 11 14:44:38 2016 From: ingejack at cox.net (ingejack at cox.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 7:44:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <4Npi1s00E4F0Vt701Npjx4> Message-ID: <20160111094438.OSEWZ.162050.imail@fed1rmwml214> Cruising with the family during the Symposium would be a great way to partake of the meetings while the rest of the family could enjoy the amenities of the cruise .I have personally take 5 cruises including the Baltic Sea cruise to Russia. I have thoroughly enjoyed all of them and for a family outing they can't be beat. The prices are not much more than a hotel but where else can you get all the free food while enjoying foreign lands and scenery while partaking of the meetings !! I don't know why this subject was not brought up before !! Great Idea Clayton !! JACK- KC7MG ---- amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote: > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Small-Satellite Launch Vehicles (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL) > 2. Re: Cruise with Amsat! (John Spasojevich) > 3. Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Bob) > 4. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (W M Willoughby) > 5. Re: AO-85 DUV Help (Mark L. Hammond) > 6. ARISS Contact Wednesday (John Spasojevich) > 7. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Jerry Buxton) > 8. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Alan) > 9. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Glenn Anderson) > 10. Cruise with AMSAT (Ed Cunningham) > 11. Re: Cruise with AMSAT (Paul Stoetzer) > 12. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (John Spasojevich) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:27:26 -0700 > From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Small-Satellite Launch Vehicles > Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20160110102022.00c2d370 at pop.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > Launch opportunities for us may be on the rise. > > A market for cubesats and other small satellites is driving development of > low-cost launch vehicles. > > > http://aviationweek.com/space/emerging-small-satellite-launch-vehicles#slide-0-field_images-1389141 > > > KB7ADL > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:35:37 -0600 > From: John Spasojevich > To: "R.T.Liddy" > Cc: AMSAT BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I don't disagree completely with Clint, that said, if you have cruised > before you know that it can be as expensive ( Penthouse Suite on the top > deck) or as inexpensive (inside stateroom on the lowest passenger deck) as > you like. I've only been on one Carnival ship and it was out of Galveston, > the next to last trip out before Hurricane Ike came ashore. I have cruised > on another line and Carnival was ok, the only issue I has was personal I > guess..and maybe it was more because it was Texas than the line...but > watching a group of guys spitting tobacco juice on the carpet in one of the > show lounges was not fun. Anyway....if you are going alone....and don't > need a porthole or balcony, I'd suggest you see about what they call the > Class 1A stateroom...they are good for single travelers but can hold 2 > people (some ships are now fitted with cabins specifically for one person, > Liberty is not so there is usually a surcharge for one person in a cabin > vs. double). So if cost is a concern, there are ways to work around it. > Remember....your cabin is mainly to sleep in, typically you won't spend a > lot of time in it on a cruise so save your money on the room, you get > everything the ship has to offer. The timing is bad for a single dad with > a kid still in H.S. so I won't be there. > > Smooth Sailing & 73, > > John - AG9D > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > > > For comparison purposes, my wife and I have found the following: > > We usually go stay with relatives in Texas and Florida for the Winterfor > > several weeks at a time. To avoid getting sick of each other, wetake a week > > and give them/us a break. We have found that taking acruise is much cheaper > > than motels/meals/travel/entertainment. So,the idea of a Cruise/Symposium > > sounds very good. There are manyin the 3 and 4 day category that would be > > well-suited - IMHO.73, Bob K8BL > > From: Stephen E. Belter > > To: 'AMSAT BB' > > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! > > > > Clint, > > > > Alan?s comments are well stated. Let me add a little more information. > > > > The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was > > assembled by Clayton, W5PFG. One of his major goals was to create a > > ?family friendly? venue. Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham > > members of the family can attend and have a good time? > > > > You object to the cost of a cruise. The reality is that most cruises are > > similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference > > facilities and restaurants) *with* meals. Note that the Symposium is not > > a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially. > > > > Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings > > mimics that of academic conferences. This is important to the U.S. > > Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations. Unfortunately, a > > virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements. > > > > I think Clayton?s idea is a good one. Will attendance be up or down from > > recent Symposiums? I don?t know, and we won?t know until we try. I think > > it has a very good chance to be successful. AMSAT does a lot of > > experimenting with most of our activities. Every Symposium is an > > experiment. > > > > In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of > > volunteers. Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA. > > Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland > > and DC area. > > > > In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work, > > and assembled a proposal. Note that Clayton is an active satellite > > operator and an active rover. He is not an AMSAT board member or officer. > > He?s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend. > > > > 73, Steve N9IP > > -- > > Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com > > > > > > > > > > On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan" > > wrote: > > > > >Clint, > > > > > >You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a > > >valuable service, but it has > > >very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as > > >long as you recognize it. > > >Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and > > >viewpoints in AMSAT who can > > >understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you > > >deride. AMSAT has many > > >functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great > > >effect and economy, but at > > >least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard > > >as it may be to believe, > > >some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance > > >to combine a family friendly > > >cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get > > >some details and balance, and > > >see what plays out over the next few months. > > > > > >I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is > > >what Gulf grids they will > > >activate? > > > > > >73s, > > > > > >Alan > > >WA4SCA > > > > > > > > > > > ><-----Original Message----- > > > > >Bradford > > > > > > > > > >< > > > > > > >< > > > > >< > > > > > > > > > > >< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). > > >< > > > > > > >< > > > > > > > > >< > > > > ><_______________________________________________ > > > > > > >Opinions expressed > > > > >AMSAT-NA. > > > > >program! > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > >Opinions expressed > > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > >AMSAT-NA. > > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 12:59:03 -0500 > From: Bob > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks to Clayton, a non-board member, just a regular member like the rest of us who stepped up to the bat to have us try something new. I remember when amateur satellites were new to me. It was exciting and different - like this new venture. I am sure that, with all of the quantitative expertise on the board, AMSAT has evaluated the cost-benefits of this venture and it passed. > > Great to try something new. > > NZ2Z > > Bob - Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: John Spasojevich > > Date: January 10, 2016 at 12:35:37 PM EST > > To: "R.T.Liddy" > > Cc: AMSAT BB > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! > > > > I don't disagree completely with Clint, that said, if you have cruised > > before you know that it can be as expensive ( Penthouse Suite on the top > > deck) or as inexpensive (inside stateroom on the lowest passenger deck) as > > you like. I've only been on one Carnival ship and it was out of Galveston, > > the next to last trip out before Hurricane Ike came ashore. I have cruised > > on another line and Carnival was ok, the only issue I has was personal I > > guess..and maybe it was more because it was Texas than the line...but > > watching a group of guys spitting tobacco juice on the carpet in one of the > > show lounges was not fun. Anyway....if you are going alone....and don't > > need a porthole or balcony, I'd suggest you see about what they call the > > Class 1A stateroom...they are good for single travelers but can hold 2 > > people (some ships are now fitted with cabins specifically for one person, > > Liberty is not so there is usually a surcharge for one person in a cabin > > vs. double). So if cost is a concern, there are ways to work around it. > > Remember....your cabin is mainly to sleep in, typically you won't spend a > > lot of time in it on a cruise so save your money on the room, you get > > everything the ship has to offer. The timing is bad for a single dad with > > a kid still in H.S. so I won't be there. > > > > Smooth Sailing & 73, > > > > John - AG9D > > > >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote: > >> > >> For comparison purposes, my wife and I have found the following: > >> We usually go stay with relatives in Texas and Florida for the Winterfor > >> several weeks at a time. To avoid getting sick of each other, wetake a week > >> and give them/us a break. We have found that taking acruise is much cheaper > >> than motels/meals/travel/entertainment. So,the idea of a Cruise/Symposium > >> sounds very good. There are manyin the 3 and 4 day category that would be > >> well-suited - IMHO.73, Bob K8BL > >> From: Stephen E. Belter > >> To: 'AMSAT BB' > >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:39 AM > >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! > >> > >> Clint, > >> > >> Alan?s comments are well stated. Let me add a little more information. > >> > >> The proposal to hold the 2016 AMSAT Symposium on a cruise ship was > >> assembled by Clayton, W5PFG. One of his major goals was to create a > >> ?family friendly? venue. Where can we have a Symposium that non-ham > >> members of the family can attend and have a good time? > >> > >> You object to the cost of a cruise. The reality is that most cruises are > >> similar in price to the cost of a hotel room (hotels with conference > >> facilities and restaurants) *with* meals. Note that the Symposium is not > >> a money-making operation and one goal is to breakeven financially. > >> > >> Please note that the format of our Symposiums with published proceedings > >> mimics that of academic conferences. This is important to the U.S. > >> Government and helps us deal with ITAR regulations. Unfortunately, a > >> virtual (online) conference does not meet their requirements. > >> > >> I think Clayton?s idea is a good one. Will attendance be up or down from > >> recent Symposiums? I don?t know, and we won?t know until we try. I think > >> it has a very good chance to be successful. AMSAT does a lot of > >> experimenting with most of our activities. Every Symposium is an > >> experiment. > >> > >> In general, AMSAT Symposiums are organized by a local committee of > >> volunteers. Dayton was organized by Steve Coy and volunteers from DARA. > >> Baltimore was organized by Frank Bauer and volunteers from the Maryland > >> and DC area. > >> > >> In this case, Clayton stepped forward, did the investigation and leg-work, > >> and assembled a proposal. Note that Clayton is an active satellite > >> operator and an active rover. He is not an AMSAT board member or officer. > >> He?s just an AMSAT volunteer, a great guy, and a friend. > >> > >> 73, Steve N9IP > >> -- > >> Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/10/16, 6:59 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Alan" > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Clint, > >>> > >>> You have found a personal niche in which you can function and provide a > >>> valuable service, but it has > >>> very narrow, limited perspectives and experiences. No harm in that, as > >>> long as you recognize it. > >>> Fortunately we have members with a wider range of skills, experience, and > >>> viewpoints in AMSAT who can > >>> understand and take advantage of the additional opportunities which you > >>> deride. AMSAT has many > >>> functions beyond publicity, and extensively uses telepresence to great > >>> effect and economy, but at > >>> least so far there is no substitute for periodic face time. Also, as hard > >>> as it may be to believe, > >>> some hams have interests outside of satellites and would relish a chance > >>> to combine a family friendly > >>> cruise with their hobby. My recommendation is to take a deep breath, get > >>> some details and balance, and > >>> see what plays out over the next few months. > >>> > >>> I will not be attending due to a prior commitment, so my only concern is > >>> what Gulf grids they will > >>> activate? > >>> > >>> 73s, > >>> > >>> Alan > >>> WA4SCA > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> <-----Original Message----- > >>> >>> Bradford > >>> >>> > >>> >>> < > >>> >>> >>> < > >>> >>> < > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> < > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <(unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). > >>> < > >>> >>> >>> < > >>> >>> >>> >>> < > >>> >>> <_______________________________________________ > >>> >>> >>> Opinions expressed > >>> >>> AMSAT-NA. > >>> >>> program! > >>> >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>> Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >>> AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > >> expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > >> expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:04:25 -0600 > From: "W M Willoughby" > To: > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > Message-ID: <03db01d14bd9$b9b50610$2d1f1230$@bellsouth.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I think it is a great idea to try the cruise venue. I don't see how my wife > could possibly object to being on a cruise while I am in satellite > presentations and I know she would enjoy meeting some of my radio friends. > If the attendance is particularly low, we will know not to try it again! I > just hope Carnival will be cooperative about a bunch of hams waving > satellite antennas around. Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the > AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:08:29 -0500 > From: "Mark L. Hammond" > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org,w0pd at elp.rr.com > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help > Message-ID: <4K8V1s00C5LoKnP01K8Vi7 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Mike, > > The good news is that DUV works with the IC-910, no mods. > > For the IC-910 you need to use the same port and pin as used for 9600 full duplex satellite mode packet. I *think* it's MAIN data port pin 4----but do NOT trust me :) Too many radios, and too many flip-flops of main vs. sub on the different radios. Make sure menu settings are proper for 9600 satellite packet, too, or the audio won't be coming from the right source. > > Another HUGELY important matter---the sound card you are inputting into. With the IC-910 at my QTH, the built-in sound card in the PC motherboard works pretty well, using Line In. However, an external Apple USB audio dongle device will NOT work--it cuts off the lowe frequency and won't print any telemetry. > > So, even having the right port and pin isn't enough--make sure your sound card works, too! > > 73, > > Mark N8MH > > > > > >Message: 5 > >Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:45:47 -0700 > >From: "Mike McConnell" > >To: > >Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help > >Message-ID: <006101d14a87$d8625b60$89271220$@elp.rr.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > >I am trying to get the DUV telemetry working here. I have the Audio from my > >IC-910H ACC Socket (Pin 5 AF) feeding my computer with no luck on decode. > >Should I be obtaining the audio instead from the Data output 9600 pin 4? > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > >W0PD > > > >Michael McConnell, Ph D. > > > >Horizon City, TX 79928 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 6 > >Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 22:06:14 -0500 > >From: Burns Fisher > >To: Mike McConnell > >Cc: AMSAT BB > >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 DUV Help > >Message-ID: > > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > >Hi MIke, > > > >Yes, you certainly need to take it from data out. Normal audio will filter > >out the lows below a few hundred hertz, and that is right where the DUV > >data is. Check the specs though...sometime rigs take out all filtering on > >9600 baud packet. Some take out only the filtering on the high end. So > >you may have to hack a wire in on the other side of all the filtering. > > > >Burns W2BFJ > > > > > >On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Mike McConnell wrote: > > > >> I am trying to get the DUV telemetry working here. I have the Audio from my > >> IC-910H ACC Socket (Pin 5 AF) feeding my computer with no luck on decode. > >> Should I be obtaining the audio instead from the Data output 9600 pin 4? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> W0PD > >> > >> Michael McConnell, Ph D. > >> > >> Horizon City, TX 79928 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:09:45 -0600 > From: John Spasojevich > To: Amsat - BBs > Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Contact Wednesday > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Please join us in listening to the ISS contact with participants at > > *Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy* on > Wednesday 13 January. AOS is anticipated at 1135 UTC > > The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The > contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK5ZAI in South Australia. > The contact is expected to be conducted in English. > > Audio from this contact will be fed into the: > > EchoLink *AMSAT* Server (101377) > > IRLP Node 9010 - Discovery Reflector > > Streaming Audio available on https://sites.google.com/site/arissaudio/ > > Audio on Echolink & web stream is generally transmitted around 20 minutes > prior to the contact taking place so that you can hear some of the > preparation that occurs. IRLP will begin just prior to the ground station > call to the ISS. > > Please note that breaks on IRLP and Echolink are manual, connected > repeaters may time out. > > ** Contact times are approximate. If the ISS executes a reboost or other > maneuver, the AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) time may alter by a few minutes ** > > 73, > > John - AG9D > > ARISS Audio Distribution > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:33:22 -0600 > From: Jerry Buxton > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > Message-ID: <5692C012.7090000 at amsat.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD, > too! :-D > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote: > > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking > > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the > > AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:58:50 -0600 > From: Alan > To: "'Jerry Buxton'" , > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > Message-ID: <000201d14be9$b5492d30$1fdb8790$@GMAIL.COM> > > And meanwhile on the bridge, they are frantically trying to find where the sextants are stored because > the GPS says they are either in Hawaii or the Sahara Desert. > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > < > < > < > <> Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > <> deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking > <> to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the > <> AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > <> > <> > <> > < > <_______________________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:45:59 -0600 > From: Glenn Anderson > To: Jerry Buxton , amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > Message-ID: <67j4y1if4ipoyiv2se7m95bo.1452462359079 at email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ... > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Jerry Buxton > Date: 01/10/2016 14:33 (GMT-06:00) > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > > Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD, > too!??? :-D > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote: > > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and talking > > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the > > AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:03:31 -0700 > From: "Ed Cunningham" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT > Message-ID: <000e01d14bf2$be589420$3b09bc60$@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Remember, once you set foot on a cruise ship you are in another country and > must have an amateur radio license issued by the country the ship is > registered in. You must also have permission from the company and the > captain of the ship. > > > > Ed, N7EC > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:16:50 -0500 > From: Paul Stoetzer > To: Ed Cunningham > Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The Carnival Liberty is registered in Panama. An IARP will suffice and > those are easy to get. > > Carnival generally allows operating, but, of course we still need to get > permission from the Captain. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Sunday, January 10, 2016, Ed Cunningham wrote: > > > Remember, once you set foot on a cruise ship you are in another country and > > must have an amateur radio license issued by the country the ship is > > registered in. You must also have permission from the company and the > > captain of the ship. > > > > > > > > Ed, N7EC > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open > > forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:49:20 -0600 > From: John Spasojevich > To: Glenn Anderson > Cc: Amsat - BBs > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hams....on a cruise ship....with an unlimited amount of food...... OMG! > > John AG9D > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Glenn Anderson > wrote: > > > Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ... > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Jerry Buxton > > Date: 01/10/2016 14:33 (GMT-06:00) > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > > > > Sounds like prime material for somebody working on their Psychology PhD, > > too! :-D > > > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > > > On 1/10/2016 13:04, W M Willoughby wrote: > > > Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on > > > deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and > > talking > > > to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for > > the > > > AMSAT Journal about a year from now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ------------------------------ > > End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11 > **************************************** From pconver at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 15:34:10 2016 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:34:10 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] It's about time! FO-29 successfully worked! In-Reply-To: <20160111233739.99C4.63087B45@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <20160111233739.99C4.63087B45@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: Hello Jeffrey, Congratulations for your first linear satellite operation !!! Perhaps you can try different setup to control dopplers using wispdde driver, it is at: http://amsat.org.ar/pass.exe Wishing success on next QSOs Best 73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Jeff A. Boyd wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:49:43 -0500, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> Congratulations! As far as the weak signals - what type of coax are you >> using and how long is it? Most find that the 857 or 817 don't really need a >> preamp to work FO-29 horizon to horizon, at least in a clear location. Coax >> is cheaper than a preamp, so you might want to try it. I use 6' LMR-240 >> jumpers myself. > > That might be what the problem is, then. I hadn't put too much thought into the > coax -- I was just using 3-4m lengths of regular old RG58. > > LMR240 itself would be quite expensive to import, but fortunately there are > Japanese-made equivalents like Fujikura 5D-SFA (113dB/km is the only figure I > could find on this, if that's useful). > > http://www.fujikura.co.jp/eng/products/cable/coaxial/cd1211.html > >> From what I know of JA satellite operation, CW is definitely more popular >> than SSB. The two 73 on 73 Award applications I've received from Japan have >> shown a large majority of the QSOs on CW. > > Time to start polishing my in-head CW copy speed... > > 73 > > -- > J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B > the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp > http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ > http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS > Twitter: @Minus2_C > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dnkucij at myfairpoint.net Mon Jan 11 15:18:55 2016 From: dnkucij at myfairpoint.net (dnkucij at myfairpoint.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:18:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT Message-ID: <20160111101855.toppp9zxmsk8o08w@webmail.myfairpoint.net> It is rumored that a well known, west coast, satellite workshop presenter has volunteered to put together a pre-cruise, on-line, workshop for anticipated Cruise with AMSAT Symposium attendees entitled, ?Proper Cruise Wear Attire?. In support of the event, the AMSAT store will be stocking up on Hawaiian shirts with the organization?s logo on the pocket. In addition, all AMSAT officers on board, will have a supply of black, knee high socks for sale, with AMSAT spelled vertically in red letters on one side and an image of AO-85 on the other. Bon Voyage! 73, Nick, KB1RVT From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon Jan 11 16:05:08 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:05:08 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: <152300858ab-132d-9a9f@webprd-m33.mail.aol.com> References: <5692F007.2010506@amsat.org> <152300858ab-132d-9a9f@webprd-m33.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: David, I ?n the absence of a non-free number to reach Carnival to make a cruise reservation, you could use Skype to ring that 800 number. Skype permits free calls to toll-free or freephone numbers in the USA, Canada, and a few other countries without first adding money (Skype Credit) to a Skype account. You will need a Skype account, of course. I just tested it, and got to the right place. I heard the same greeting answer my call via Skype as I did when I rang the number from the desk phone at my office. Skype doesn't work for all toll-free numbers in the USA and Canada (area codes 800, 844, 855, 866, 877, 888), as some numbers are limited to certain regions, states, or Canadian provinces. This is because of where Skype connects these calls into the telephone network for calls (usually somewhere in southern California). I know it has worked for those calling toll-free numbers for ARRL, in addition to this number for Carnival. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK ? On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:33 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > FYI > 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA. > > 10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find. > > 73 > > David > From w5pfg at amsat.org Mon Jan 11 16:37:07 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:37:07 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: <152300858ab-132d-9a9f@webprd-m33.mail.aol.com> References: <152300858ab-132d-9a9f@webprd-m33.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <5693DA33.1000003@amsat.org> For callers outside of the USA, please call +1 305-599-2600, extension 70005. Thank you, Clayton W5PFG On 1/11/2016 03:33, David G0MRF wrote: > FYI > 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA. > 10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find. > 73 > David > -----Original Message----- > From: Clayton W5PFG > To: amsat-bb > CC: W M Willoughby > Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58 > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT > > There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to > come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple. > > My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on > the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 > There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom. > > The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT > cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person > deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote: > > I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the > > info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the > Symposium > > webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to > cover all > > necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes > this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g0mrf at aol.com Mon Jan 11 16:45:27 2016 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:45:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT In-Reply-To: <5693DA33.1000003@amsat.org> Message-ID: <1523193f9db-3d87-bfd@webprd-m87.mail.aol.com> Thanks Clayton (and several others off list) After spending several minutes online, the Carnival site suddenly realised I was in the UK and offered me a local number. 73 David -----Original Message----- From: Clayton W5PFG To: David G0MRF ; amsat-bb Sent: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:37 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT For callers outside of the USA, please call +1 305-599-2600, extension 70005. Thank you, Clayton W5PFG On 1/11/2016 03:33, David G0MRF wrote: > FYI > 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA. > 10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find. > 73 > David > -----Original Message----- > From: Clayton W5PFG > To: amsat-bb > CC: W M Willoughby > Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58 > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT > > There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to > come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple. > > My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on > the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 > There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom. > > The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT > cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person > deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote: > > I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the > > info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the > Symposium > > webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to > cover all > > necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes > this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jan 11 18:58:05 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (kb2m at arrl.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:58:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Landwehr dc connector Message-ID: <147301d14ca2$01afb3c0$050f1b40$@net> Has anyone went through the trouble to locate the 5 pin DC connector plug for a Landwehr 2m and 70sm pre-amp. If so do you remember the source and part number ? Thanks. 73 Jeff kb2m From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon Jan 11 19:09:25 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:09:25 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT Message-ID: <201601111909.u0BJ9Qpa005943@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> I guess I should start by saying I've not attended Symposium since Sept. 2001 in Atlanta. Since retirement in 2009 I have only made about one ham conference per year due to living on 40% of my former income. We'll be attending the East Coast Super VHF Conference this year. Which brings up the main issue for someone like me living in Alaska. Airfare, airport parking, rental cars, hotel and meal costs for two people (my wife attends when I go to a conference) typically run over $2500. About $1400-1600 for airfare, alone. So maybe the cruise costs would be similar to combo of car rental+hotel+meals -- that would help sell the idea. But I run into another issue with my wife - she totally will not take a cruise in fear of catching sickness on a boat. Irrational - yes, but not surmountable for me. Don't even think that I would consider taking a cruise by myself! Ha! So sounds like fun! We will not be coming. PS: I'd love to be there when you explain to the Captain that there will be a hundred hams out waving antennas and operating radios on "his boat"! One-two? maybe; 100 hundred - ha ha ha 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From redski at bellsouth.net Mon Jan 11 19:17:07 2016 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M Willoughby) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:17:07 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT Message-ID: <006101d14ca4$aa8e8730$ffab9590$@bellsouth.net> My wife and I are booked! Red KC4LE From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 20:09:55 2016 From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:09:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: During my portable operations in Arizona, I used my ft-8900 with the Arrow II with 20 watts and was able to make contacts just fine Down to 10 degrees on low passes. All that it requires is some power and very importantly you have to flip polarity to get the best transmit signal and you need to know what freqency you start on and end on. For me it's 436.170 AOS, and 180-185 end of pass. From qstick333 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 11 20:34:12 2016 From: qstick333 at yahoo.com (zach hillerson) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations References: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'm wondering if anyone can give me the name/model of the tripod they are successfully using with their Arrow antenna? ?I would like to get back into the satellite world but need a tripod due to shoulder issues. ?I've ordered 2 from Amazon and neither has been able to hold the weight of the Arrow. ? After several days of searching through the house for my old tripod my wife finally admitted selling it at a yardsale :-( Thanks for any recommendations, Zach N4ERZ? From dnkucij at myfairpoint.net Mon Jan 11 21:01:00 2016 From: dnkucij at myfairpoint.net (dnkucij at myfairpoint.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:01:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations Message-ID: <20160111160100.l8o8rd480gocsokc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> I have worked hundreds and hundreds of grids from indoors with an Arrow on a tripod. My favorite set-up is a nice sturdy, basic, Bogen tripod base, with a Bogen pan-tilt head that has a long handle. It easily supports the antenna and is very smooth to operate and track the satellites. The Bogen clip-in/quick release attachment is solid enough to hold the antenna by itself. You need to be able to change polarity by flipping the antenna between vertical and horizontal, it can make a big difference in?effectiveness. If you will be operating portable or moving your set-up around frequently, I use most any, cheap tripod with a pan tilt head. Their quick-release mechanisms are fairly flimsy, so I keep a bunch of zip-ties handy to secure the antenna onto the base. Also, I have a small canvas bag and S hook handy to make a counter-balance when needed. Right now I have an old, small, circular sander I throw inside inside the bag.? 73, Nick, KB1RVT From normanlizeth at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 21:23:59 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Lizeth Norman) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:23:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations In-Reply-To: <20160111160100.l8o8rd480gocsokc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> References: <20160111160100.l8o8rd480gocsokc@webmail.myfairpoint.net> Message-ID: Majestic (have 2) is a good brand. 75$ to thousands on the bay. Quick Set is another brand. These run from 35$ on Craigslist to thousands on the bay. Use both. Majestic taken to 8R1 was given to me. Non ferrous tripod. Had been outside for 10+ years. Local ham stuffed it into my car. Quality stuff cleans up nice. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:01 PM, wrote: > I have worked hundreds and hundreds of grids from indoors with an Arrow on a tripod. My favorite set-up is a nice sturdy, basic, Bogen tripod base, with a Bogen pan-tilt head that has a long handle. It easily supports the antenna and is very smooth to operate and track the satellites. The Bogen clip-in/quick release attachment is solid enough to hold the antenna by itself. You need to be able to change polarity by flipping the antenna between vertical and horizontal, it can make a big difference in effectiveness. > If you will be operating portable or moving your set-up around frequently, I use most any, cheap tripod with a pan tilt head. Their quick-release mechanisms are fairly flimsy, so I keep a bunch of zip-ties handy to secure the antenna onto the base. Also, I have a small canvas bag and S hook handy to make a counter-balance when needed. Right now I have an old, small, circular sander I throw inside inside the bag. > > 73, Nick, KB1RVT > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bobsmacbox at yahoo.com Mon Jan 11 21:49:28 2016 From: bobsmacbox at yahoo.com (Bob Bennett) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:49:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations In-Reply-To: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <56942368.4010801@yahoo.com> Try a camera store or Best Buy. A good sturdy camera tripod works for me. The key word is sturdy, as you have found out already. nz2z On 1/11/16 3:34 PM, zach hillerson via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone can give me the name/model of the tripod they are successfully using with their Arrow antenna? I would like to get back into the satellite world but need a tripod due to shoulder issues. I've ordered 2 from Amazon and neither has been able to hold the weight of the Arrow. > After several days of searching through the house for my old tripod my wife finally admitted selling it at a yardsale :-( > Thanks for any recommendations, > Zach N4ERZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From WA6FWF at comcast.net Mon Jan 11 21:51:14 2016 From: WA6FWF at comcast.net (Kevin Schuchmann) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:51:14 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Landwehr dc connector In-Reply-To: <147301d14ca2$01afb3c0$050f1b40$@net> References: <147301d14ca2$01afb3c0$050f1b40$@net> Message-ID: <569423D2.3020007@comcast.net> Jeff, double check but I believe that is a Switchcraft 5 pin din 12CL5MX mouser 502-12cl5mx and that's where I bought it from. Kevin WA6FWF On 1/11/2016 10:58 AM, kb2m at arrl.net wrote: > Has anyone went through the trouble to locate the 5 pin DC connector plug > for a Landwehr 2m and 70sm pre-amp. If so do you remember the source and > part number ? Thanks. > > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From sarlabs at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 21:52:31 2016 From: sarlabs at gmail.com (Amir Findling) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:52:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations In-Reply-To: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I buy mine at hamfest. Five bucks or so... -- 73 de Amir K9CHP Liverpool Amateur Repeater Club www.W2CM.com Radio Amateurs of Greater Syracuse www.ragsclub.org Wilderness SAR www.wsar.org Eagle Valley Search Dogs www.evdogs.org On Jan 11, 2016 3:37 PM, "zach hillerson via AMSAT-BB" wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone can give me the name/model of the tripod they are > successfully using with their Arrow antenna? I would like to get back into > the satellite world but need a tripod due to shoulder issues. I've ordered > 2 from Amazon and neither has been able to hold the weight of the Arrow. > After several days of searching through the house for my old tripod my > wife finally admitted selling it at a yardsale :-( > Thanks for any recommendations, > Zach N4ERZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From va6bmj at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 22:00:17 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:00:17 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations In-Reply-To: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't use a tripod for my Arrow antenna but my telescope is mounted on a surveyor's tripod. It cost around 2/3 the price of the Arrow but it's quite sturdy and comes with a carrying strap. A bubble level helps in setting it up. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jan 11 23:09:30 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (kb2m at arrl.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 18:09:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Landwehr dc connector In-Reply-To: <569423D2.3020007@comcast.net> References: <147301d14ca2$01afb3c0$050f1b40$@net> <569423D2.3020007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01e801d14cc5$2146c750$63d455f0$@net> Thanks Kevin, You got it right. Looking something up like this on Mouser is very tedious. Before you sent your post I found another source online, www.radioDan.com Dan has a collection of Landwehr parts, I purchased 3 of the DC connectors for 34$ shipped. About the same price as Mouser. He also has a bunch of used 2m pre-amps he is going through that will be for sale after he checks them out. The Landwehr spec sez it will switch 150w and handle 750w. Good for moonbounce use on same tower as sat stuff, if one has the desire to do moonbounce. He wants around 200 $ for them used. What I'm doing is bringing my sat pre amps to my winter home to also use there. When your retired you have the time to be more cost effective.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Schuchmann Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 16:51 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Landwehr dc connector Jeff, double check but I believe that is a Switchcraft 5 pin din 12CL5MX mouser 502-12cl5mx and that's where I bought it from. Kevin WA6FWF On 1/11/2016 10:58 AM, kb2m at arrl.net wrote: > Has anyone went through the trouble to locate the 5 pin DC connector > plug for a Landwehr 2m and 70sm pre-amp. If so do you remember the > source and part number ? Thanks. > > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > From jefforybroughton at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 01:31:44 2016 From: jefforybroughton at gmail.com (jeffory broughton) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:31:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise Message-ID: There was some pricing break down on the cruise posted somewhere a day or two ago.i will be darned if I can find it again . somebody please direct me. Thanks ! Jeff WB8RJY jeff broughton From wageners at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 02:03:55 2016 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:03:55 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=4859 73, Stefan, VE4NSA On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:31 PM, jeffory broughton < jefforybroughton at gmail.com> wrote: > There was some pricing break down on the cruise posted somewhere a day or > two ago.i will be darned if I can find it again . somebody please direct > me. > Thanks ! Jeff WB8RJY > > jeff broughton > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From seb at wintek.com Tue Jan 12 02:04:57 2016 From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen E. Belter) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 02:04:57 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jeff, You may be thinking of the Symposium FAQ. Is this what you were trying to find: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=4859 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com On 1/11/16, 8:31 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of jeffory broughton" wrote: >There was some pricing break down on the cruise posted somewhere a day or >two ago.i will be darned if I can find it again . somebody please direct >me. >Thanks ! Jeff WB8RJY > >jeff broughton >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From transbets at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 02:07:19 2016 From: transbets at gmail.com (transbets at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:07:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: References: <67j4y1if4ipoyiv2se7m95bo.1452462359079@email.android.com> <123501d14c10$369ea790$a3dbf6b0$@net> Message-ID: Sounds like a fantastic idea! A bunch of hams waving yagis and desensing each other, eating all day, laughing and learning. Count me in! Betsy WB3U On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Goody K3NG wrote: > This cruise sounds like the Love Boat but with lots of RF and satellites. > Wish I could go. :-) > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:34 PM, wrote: > > > If it's like any of the cruises I've been on it's more like pick up 4 > > adult beverages..... > > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Glenn > > Anderson > > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 16:46 PM > > To: Jerry Buxton; amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! > > > > Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- -- Betsy transbets at gmail.com *"I will use words and choose actions that heal me and others" -unknown* "Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not get bent out of shape." From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Tue Jan 12 02:20:33 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS)) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:20:33 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160112111110.DCC1.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:07:19 -0500, "transbets at gmail.com" wrote: > Sounds like a fantastic idea! A bunch of hams waving yagis and desensing > each other, eating all day, laughing and learning. Count me in! "Sir there's a ship out in the harbor, and everyone on board is holding up antennas at the same point in the sky, laughing, and they all have headphones on." "Okay, call in the air strike." -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jan 12 02:29:42 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:29:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: <20160112111110.DCC1.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <20160112111110.DCC1.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: Can't be worse than doing the same thing right beside an NSA office building in Maryland :-) On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:20 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) < the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:07:19 -0500, "transbets at gmail.com" < > transbets at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sounds like a fantastic idea! A bunch of hams waving yagis and desensing > > each other, eating all day, laughing and learning. Count me in! > > "Sir there's a ship out in the harbor, and everyone on board is holding > up antennas at the same point in the sky, laughing, and they all have > headphones on." > > "Okay, call in the air strike." > > -- > J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B > the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp > http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ > http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS > Twitter: @Minus2_C > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Tue Jan 12 02:33:04 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:33:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?iso-8859-1?q?Upcoming_ARISS_contact_with_Scuola_Seco?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ndaria_di_Primo_Grado_=22Benedetto_Croce=22=2C_Civa?= =?iso-8859-1?q?te=2C_Italy?= Message-ID: <840AD8914E2547C5ADA76286FFE85DA8@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado "Benedetto Croce", Civate, Italy on 13 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 11:35 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK5ZAI. The contact should be audible over Australia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado "Benedetto Croce": Primary and Secondary school located in Civate, a small town not far from the bigger city of Lecco. Beautifully surrounded by lakes and mountains, the school participated in a articulated STEM educational project including a visit to the local Lecco's planetarium where almost every year they use to host an astronaut, including former NASA's Mike Fincke and Sandra Magnus. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. Which is the best moment on a space day? 2. How did you feel the first time with no gravity? 3. At first were you afraid of living on the ISS? 4. What are you doing on the station at the moment? 5. Do you like living with other five people? 6. Do you have any hobbies on the ISS? 7. What are the objectives of your mission? 8. When did you start to enjoy astronomy? Why? 9. Have you got any problems on the ISS? 10. Is it better to live on the earth or in space? 11. Which experiment do you prefer on the ISS? 12. Which is the first place you want to see when you return home? 13. What's your favourite planet? 14. Would you like to stay longer in space? 15. What time zone is used on the ISS? 16. How has this experience changed your life? 17. Sometimes, would you like to return soon to Earth? 18. What did you think when you were chosen for this mission? 19. What are you missing more of the earth life? 20. Do you believe in aliens, in extra-terrestrial life? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD ARISS is an international educational outreach program partnering the volunteer support and leadership from AMSAT and IARU societies around the world with the ISS space agencies partners: NASA, Russian Space Agency, ESA, CNES, JAXA, and CSA. ARISS offers an opportunity for students to experience the excitement of Amateur Radio by talking directly with crewmembers on-board the International Space Station. Teachers, parents and communities see, first hand, how Amateur Radio and crewmembers on ISS can energize youngsters' interest in science, technology, and learning. Further information on the ARISS program visit the ARISS website at ariss.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From bobsmacbox at yahoo.com Tue Jan 12 03:05:25 2016 From: bobsmacbox at yahoo.com (Bob Bennett) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:05:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56946D75.8000803@yahoo.com> Has anyone been able to get a FUNcube Pro (not+) working one a Raspberry Pi? Bob/nz2z From AJ9N at aol.com Tue Jan 12 07:53:51 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 02:53:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-12 07:30 UTC Message-ID: <7e61fc.34be74f9.43c60b0f@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-12 07:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-13 11:35:44 UTC 33 deg Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-20 08:37:04 UTC 26 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 114 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-09 07:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1017. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 982. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-09 07:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From redski at bellsouth.net Tue Jan 12 14:46:39 2016 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M Willoughby) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:46:39 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! Message-ID: <00c601d14d48$0c0763d0$24162b70$@bellsouth.net> Take a look at that clothesline going down the middle of the Carnival Liberty: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667. I bet that thing would load up on the new 630m band! From n6rfm1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 16:10:12 2016 From: n6rfm1 at gmail.com (N6RFM1 gmail) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:10:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] email address Message-ID: <002d01d14d53$b8339e70$289adb50$@gmail.com> Hi, If anyone has an email address for Dave G3GQW, please contact me off list. Thanks, Bob n6rfm1 at gmail.com From tjschuessler at verizon.net Tue Jan 12 16:29:16 2016 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:29:16 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations Message-ID: <005d01d14d56$6176d900$24648b00$@net> Zach, Any good sturdy tripod will do. The trick however is to get the arrow to stay put when you tilt to the side to allow for polarity change. Since there is only one mounting hole in the Arrow that is threaded to mate with the screw camera mount screw thread that attaches cameras to the usually removable camera plate. Since the antenna is long with a far from the mount center of gravity, if you tilt the mount head over on it's side, the antenna will invariably slide downward which is not desirable. I can send a picture of what I had done to my tripod camera plate to make this not happen. Basically you take a small metal angled piece, like maybe equipment rack ears, preferably with some screw holes already in it, and position it on the camera mount plate such that the plate will rest snug to the boom of the arrow when screwed into the mount. Mark the holes and then drill through the mount. Attach nuts and bolts through and under the plate to secure this piece of metal. When done, and if positioned right, the boom will not move a bit when the camera plate is tilted to the side. Tom Schuessler N5HYP ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:34:12 +0000 (UTC) From: zach hillerson To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations Message-ID: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm wondering if anyone can give me the name/model of the tripod they are successfully using with their Arrow antenna? ?I would like to get back into the satellite world but need a tripod due to shoulder issues. ?I've ordered 2 from Amazon and neither has been able to hold the weight of the Arrow. ? After several days of searching through the house for my old tripod my wife finally admitted selling it at a yardsale :-( Thanks for any recommendations, Zach N4ERZ? ------------------------------ From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Tue Jan 12 18:54:16 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:54:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS SSTV Postponed for January Message-ID: <5C3DC07030CB480ABC2776F3259A649B@DHJ> The ARISS SSTV event that had been tentatively planned for mid-January has been postponed due to planning issues. Look for updates to appear on the amsat-bb at amsat.org email list, AMSAT News Service (ANS), ARISS News Releases, www.ariss.org, on facebook at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) and twitter @ARISS_status, as they become available. Dave, AA4KN, ARISS PR --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From john at kw4cr.com Tue Jan 12 20:42:07 2016 From: john at kw4cr.com (John LeVous, KW4CR) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:42:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations In-Reply-To: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2110125049.2783266.1452544452013.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6ff48065906128bb766a2b812ed83daa.squirrel@slmp-550-36.slc.westdc.net> I'm using a Manfrotto 055 with a 3-way head. It's the only tripod that I've found that is stable and strong enough to be reliable. John, KW4CR On Mon, January 11, 2016 3:34 pm, zach hillerson via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone can give me the name/model of the tripod they are > successfully using with their Arrow antenna? ??I would like to get back > into the satellite world but need a tripod due to shoulder issues. ??I've > ordered 2 from Amazon and neither has been able to hold the weight of the > Arrow. ?? > After several days of searching through the house for my old tripod my > wife finally admitted selling it at a yardsale :-( Thanks for any > recommendations, Zach N4ERZ?? > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > John LeVous, KW4CR From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Tue Jan 12 22:34:44 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS)) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 07:34:44 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] tripod recommendations In-Reply-To: <005d01d14d56$6176d900$24648b00$@net> References: <005d01d14d56$6176d900$24648b00$@net> Message-ID: <20160113072126.1A50.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:29:16 -0600, "Tom Schuessler" wrote: > Zach, > > Any good sturdy tripod will do. The trick however is to get the arrow to > stay put when you tilt to the side to allow for polarity change. I came up with an alternative solution that may work for some people: a PVC pipe mount that allows you to "roll" the Arrow to allow for polarity change (not a full 90 degrees, but it will get you in the neighborhood). The photo below was when I had it mounted on my camera tripod with a ball mount; I've since moved to a more conventional pitch/yaw type. http://i.imgur.com/D0XwWlA.jpg The homebrew mount is made out of 25mm PVC pipe -- two 90? corners, two T joints, and enough straight pipe to fit. The T joints I found were, luckily, exactly the correct length to fit over the boom and stay clear of all the antenna elements. The pipe is also of a sufficient diameter to allow the entire yagi to move laterally within it. I drilled a hole in the bottom of the straight pipe of the same size as the standard tripod shoe screw. I then "forced" a bolt of the same size into the hole to "thread" it -- after this the tripod shoe fit snug onto the pipe. (This is a temporary solution; later I'm thinking of a more permanent mount made out of a pipe clamp.) Et voila, a jury-rigged 3-axis mount. Using a standard pitch/yaw tripod, I can also twist the yagi to change polarity without having to worry that the tripod will bear extra weight to one side. Keeping the tripod shoe about 5? tilted left in my case will allow the elements to be perpendicular to the ground. Hope this helps someone! 73 -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C From skristof at etczone.com Tue Jan 12 23:04:39 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:04:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sats Message-ID: <31e2d0eb561baa9d258761d2e8883d3f@etczone.com> A little off topic for this forum, but we've been here before. I've been using WxtoImg software to decode images from the NOAA satellites. It works pretty well, but the radio I'm using is an old 2 m mobile rig. From what I've read on the WxtoImg website, I might get better images if I get the software upgrade. But, I cannot, for the life of me, find how to get the upgrade. A link is provided in the program and on the website, but, when I use the link, there is nothing on that page that says anything about an upgrade. I also cannot find anywhere on the website the name of the author or an email address with which to contact him or her. If you have upgraded your WxtoImg software, can you please tell how you did it? Thank you! Steve AI9IN From qstick333 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 12 23:26:50 2016 From: qstick333 at yahoo.com (zach hillerson) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 23:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] TH-D72 questions References: <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I am a new owner of the TH D72 by Kenwood. ?I'm having a bit of difficulty with a few default settings and was hoping am ore experienced user could pass on a few tips. ? My understanding is that I cannot save duplex setups into the memory channels. ?I am manually entering the necessary frequencies for AO 85 and SO 50. ?Each time I put a new frequency in the radio defaults to a 25khz step and the tone defaults to 88.5 Hz. ?I want to have 67Hz and 5khz steps as default. ? There has to be a better way of using the radio for satellites (my only use) then manually entering each frequency and then manually changing each default but I haven't found it in the manual yet. ? Any help for a smoother experience would be appreciated. ?I can barely remember to go outside in time for each pass, let alone remember to go through all the keypad functions. ? Thanks! ZachN4ERZ From skristof at etczone.com Tue Jan 12 23:31:51 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:31:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat question Message-ID: <548ef7b904afea73eccab837494fd725@etczone.com> Should I be able to receive and decode APRS packets from LilacSat with software like DireWolf and APRSIS32? Steve AI9IN From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jan 12 23:49:24 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:49:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] TH-D72 questions In-Reply-To: <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have one, and I set it up with the software. (Actually I think I used an opensource software package of some sort, but I don't now remember the name). I have not touched the setup in a while, but I don't remember the issue you were talking about, although I do think you have to use a separate channel for uplink and downlink. But one nice thing (if I remember right): Isn't the data connection a regular USB mini so you don't need to pay huge amounts for a special cable? Anyway, my main problem is that things seem very hard to find--so much APRS and TNC stuff on the keypad that things like power are hiding in menus. On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, zach hillerson via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I am a new owner of the TH D72 by Kenwood. I'm having a bit of difficulty > with a few default settings and was hoping am ore experienced user could > pass on a few tips. > My understanding is that I cannot save duplex setups into the memory > channels. I am manually entering the necessary frequencies for AO 85 and > SO 50. Each time I put a new frequency in the radio defaults to a 25khz > step and the tone defaults to 88.5 Hz. I want to have 67Hz and 5khz steps > as default. > There has to be a better way of using the radio for satellites (my only > use) then manually entering each frequency and then manually changing each > default but I haven't found it in the manual yet. > Any help for a smoother experience would be appreciated. I can barely > remember to go outside in time for each pass, let alone remember to go > through all the keypad functions. > Thanks! > ZachN4ERZ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From Mvivona at yahoo.com Tue Jan 12 23:50:07 2016 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:50:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Weather sats In-Reply-To: <31e2d0eb561baa9d258761d2e8883d3f@etczone.com> References: <31e2d0eb561baa9d258761d2e8883d3f@etczone.com> Message-ID: http://www.wxtoimg.com/beta/ Then select you OS type. Michael KC4ZVA On Jan 12, 2016, at 6:04 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: A little off topic for this forum, but we've been here before. I've been using WxtoImg software to decode images from the NOAA satellites. It works pretty well, but the radio I'm using is an old 2 m mobile rig. From what I've read on the WxtoImg website, I might get better images if I get the software upgrade. But, I cannot, for the life of me, find how to get the upgrade. A link is provided in the program and on the website, but, when I use the link, there is nothing on that page that says anything about an upgrade. I also cannot find anywhere on the website the name of the author or an email address with which to contact him or her. If you have upgraded your WxtoImg software, can you please tell how you did it? Thank you! Steve AI9IN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Wed Jan 13 01:48:06 2016 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 01:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Clayton, please contact me off list. References: <1129761771.3412169.1452649686947.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1129761771.3412169.1452649686947.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Clayton, I need to talk to you. ?Please call if you still have my number or message me off list. ?Thanks, DougK9DLP From n8fgv at usa.net Wed Jan 13 02:55:47 2016 From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:55:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! Message-ID: <856uamc3v1728S01.1452653747@web01.cms.usa.net> For a typical Symposium weekend, my wife gladly stays home knowing how boring an AMSAT Symposium can be, so I only have to buy one airline ticket and I can often cut the lodging cost in half by sharing a room with another temporarily single AMSAT guy. I carry enough snacks in my luggage that I don't need to pay for hotel meals aside from the banquet. However there is no way that I will be allowed to go on a "cruise with the AMSAT boys" without bringing her along, so now I'm on the hook for $446 dollars (including tax) times two, along with two plane tickets to Houston. We are looking at over $1000 for something that usually costs a few hundred. I have not missed a symposium in quite a few years but this might be the year when I lose my perfect attendance record. Last year's symposium had a record attendance by college and high school students, who are the future of AMSAT. I doubt very many of these students can afford a cruise so we will probably set another record for the least attendance by students. Finally, what are the legal ramifications of discussing potentially ITAR restricted subjects on a foreign registered ship outside of US territory? I hope you all have fun, I will (probably) not be going. 73, Dan Schultz N8FGV >On Sun Jan 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: >I think the cruise is a good idea. My only thought about it is that some >wives are very high maintenance, possibly placing the ham in a lose-lose >situation being split apart by dual loyalties. Or he can try to go alone, >and face other consequenceis. It will be an interesting challenge... >On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 2:04 PM, W M Willoughby wrote: >> I think it is a great idea to try the cruise venue. I don't see how my wife >> could possibly object to being on a cruise while I am in satellite >> presentations and I know she would enjoy meeting some of my radio friends. >> If the attendance is particularly low, we will know not to try it again! From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jan 13 04:10:17 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 04:10:17 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] TH-D72 questions In-Reply-To: <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Zach, You are correct. You cannot program memory channels on a TH-D72 where the transmit and receive frequencies are in different bands. You will need to use the lower VFO (VFO B) for your transmit/uplink frequency, and the upper VFO (VFO A) for your receive/downlink frequency. This means you will be switching VFOs when adjusting your receive frequency when working SO-50 and LilacSat-2. Depending on the pass, you may not need to adjust your receive frequency when working AO-85, focusing only on the transmit frequency. The radio will save the settings like tuning step and PL tone, once you set them. These settings are specific to each band and VFO. What you have in VFO A does not carry over to VFO B, nor do the settings for the 2m band in one VFO carry over to the 70cm band (or vice versa). These suggestions are in addition to what I e-mailed you directly a few days ago. In addition to working FM satellites, the packet/APRS part of this HT is capable of being used to make packet QSOs via the digipeaters on NO-84 and the ISS. I have used APRS messages to do this, working only with the HT's keypad. It is like typing out SMS messages on a flip-type mobile phone, but it is possible. Exchanges are similar to what you would do on any other satellite, just done quickly to get the information to the other station and so you can get the other station's exchange. Using APRS messages means you will have copies of what you send to other stations, along with messages from other stations back to you, stored in the HT. Good luck, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:26 PM, zach hillerson via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I am a new owner of the TH D72 by Kenwood. I'm having a bit of difficulty > with a few default settings and was hoping am ore experienced user could > pass on a few tips. > My understanding is that I cannot save duplex setups into the memory > channels. I am manually entering the necessary frequencies for AO 85 and > SO 50. Each time I put a new frequency in the radio defaults to a 25khz > step and the tone defaults to 88.5 Hz. I want to have 67Hz and 5khz steps > as default. > There has to be a better way of using the radio for satellites (my only > use) then manually entering each frequency and then manually changing each > default but I haven't found it in the manual yet. > Any help for a smoother experience would be appreciated. I can barely > remember to go outside in time for each pass, let alone remember to go > through all the keypad functions. > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jan 13 04:41:18 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 04:41:18 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Thunderbird Hamfest @ Phoenix AZ, last Saturday (9 January) - report Message-ID: Hi! Last Saturday (9 January), I had an AMSAT booth at the Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club's annual hamfest in Phoenix, Arizona. This is one of several hamfests in central and southern Arizona away from the summertime. The morning was a little cool and humid, but as the sun came up this was a great morning. As the rain that had soaked the Phoenix area last week moved away, a nice crowd - buyers, and sellers - came out to the hamfest. During the hamfest, I had lots of opportunities to talk about our new AO-85 satellite, along with the group of Chinese amateur satellites launched last fall, and more Fox-1 satellites in the pipeline. At these hamfests, the most popular events are the on-air demonstrations. Starting with a very early AO-85 pass before 6am (1300 UTC) which was a good pass for collecting telemetry, through two AO-73 passes later in the morning, there is always interest in seeing satellite activity in person. Besides the AO-85 and two AO-73 passes, I also worked a pair of LilacSat-2 passes and an XW-2F pass. This makes for a nice mix of FM and SSB satellite operating. As always, many thanks to the stations who called and worked WD9EWK during these passes! It helps to have stations come on and say "hello" to the crowds, and also mention more than a grid locator for their location. I uploaded my log to Logbook of the World for the contacts made at the hamfest, and would be happy to send a QSL card if anyone would like to receive a card for a contact with WD9EWK at the hamfest. Please e-mail me directly with the QSO details, so I can check my log before sending a card your way. For the final demonstration pass I had at the hamfest, a western AO-73 pass a few minutes past 10.30am (1730 UTC), I had contacts with Frank K6FW near Los Angeles and Glenn AA5PK in west Texas. After I finished the contact with Glenn, someone in the crowd pointed out that Texas was to the east, and I was pointing my Elk log periodic westward. I explained that the satellite was over the eastern Pacific Ocean during this pass, and that both of us would be pointing our antennas at the satellite - not in the direction of the other station for each contact. The proverbial lightbulb came on at that moment, followed by "cool". We who regularly work satellites know that we may not point our antennas anywhere in the direction of where the other station is located, but sometimes it takes a moment for that concept to make sense for someone who knows little or nothing about satellite communications. For almost all of the passes I worked at the hamfest, I used my SDRplay SDR receiver and an 8-inch Windows 10 tablet for my downlink receiver. I figured a hamfest would be a great place to demonstrate the power of an SDR receiver like the SDRplay, combined with the small yet functional Windows tablet - something I wrote about for the AMSAT Journal and the AMSAT-UK OSCAR News publications in the past year. "Eating my own dog food", you could say. I was able to use the shade from my parked car so I could see the tablet's screen, and the tablet/SDR receiver combination attracted lots of interest from the hamfest crowd. Using HDSDR on the tablet, I was able to see the transponder and other telemetry from the satellites. I think I talked about the tablet/SDR combination as much as the satellite that were recently launched and those coming up during 2016. Thanks to the Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club for providing AMSAT space for a booth at the hamfest. This is the 10th consecutive year I have been at this hamfest representing AMSAT. I'm looking forward to the next hamfest where I will represent AMSAT - the Yuma Hamfest, which is also the 2016 ARRL Southwest Division Convention, in southwestern Arizona next month. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From wouterweg at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 12:52:53 2016 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:52:53 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] TH-D72 questions In-Reply-To: References: <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <724756153.3374064.1452641210114.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: To add to that, also be aware that the VFO order is important! if you swap TX and RX, this rig does NOT allow duplex. it is only full duplex when your TX is on VFO B and RX on VFO A. You can only enable the duplex mode while on VFO B. This is different to the true full duplex of the TH-D7. Additionally, the TH-D72 has both narrow and wide FM deviations. be aware of this. I believe the common practice in satellite operation is still FM wide (or normal) and *not* narrow. 73 Wouter PA3WEG On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:10 AM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > Zach, > > You are correct. You cannot program memory channels on > a TH-D72 where the transmit and receive frequencies are > in different bands. You will need to use the lower > VFO (VFO B) for your transmit/uplink frequency, and the > upper VFO (VFO A) for your receive/downlink frequency. > This means you will be switching VFOs when adjusting your > receive frequency when working SO-50 and LilacSat-2. > Depending on the pass, you may not need to adjust your > receive frequency when working AO-85, focusing only on the > transmit frequency. > > The radio will save the settings like tuning step and PL > tone, once you set them. These settings are specific to > each band and VFO. What you have in VFO A does not carry > over to VFO B, nor do the settings for the 2m band in > one VFO carry over to the 70cm band (or vice versa). > These suggestions are in addition to what I e-mailed you > directly a few days ago. > > In addition to working FM satellites, the packet/APRS part > of this HT is capable of being used to make packet QSOs > via the digipeaters on NO-84 and the ISS. I have used APRS > messages to do this, working only with the HT's keypad. > It is like typing out SMS messages on a flip-type mobile > phone, but it is possible. Exchanges are similar to what > you would do on any other satellite, just done quickly to > get the information to the other station and so you can > get the other station's exchange. Using APRS messages means > you will have copies of what you send to other stations, > along with messages from other stations back to you, stored > in the HT. > > Good luck, and 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:26 PM, zach hillerson via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > I am a new owner of the TH D72 by Kenwood. I'm having a bit of > difficulty > > with a few default settings and was hoping am ore experienced user could > > pass on a few tips. > > My understanding is that I cannot save duplex setups into the memory > > channels. I am manually entering the necessary frequencies for AO 85 and > > SO 50. Each time I put a new frequency in the radio defaults to a 25khz > > step and the tone defaults to 88.5 Hz. I want to have 67Hz and 5khz > steps > > as default. > > There has to be a better way of using the radio for satellites (my only > > use) then manually entering each frequency and then manually changing > each > > default but I haven't found it in the manual yet. > > Any help for a smoother experience would be appreciated. I can barely > > remember to go outside in time for each pass, let alone remember to go > > through all the keypad functions. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zach.hillerson at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 20:26:59 2016 From: zach.hillerson at gmail.com (Zach Hillerson) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:26:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] TH D72 Message-ID: Thanks for the replies. I don't mind having to manually enter the appropriate frequency and have had zero issues following ao85 and so50 through full passes. The issue that drives me crazy is having to reset the tone and step each time I change satellites. If I have everything set with a 67hz tone and 5khz step for an ao85 pass and then enter frequencies for a so50 pass I have to redo the tone and steps. It automatically defaults each time to 88.5 and 25khz steps. I don't know what to do to make this not have to occur. I would prefer to just type in the appropriate frequencies and move on, not have to make the other adjustments. From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 21:40:14 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:40:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] TH D72 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I suppose this is because, as others have said, to do duplex you have to use one side for TX and one side for RX and the sats don't use the same bands for RX/TX. (Just confirming I understand the problem). With Kenwood radios there is a way to transfer memories to VFO. I wonder if you just saved each sat's RX and TX if you could transfer the memory with at least tone, and hopefully step, to the appropriate side of the radio. I can't remember the buttons to do this, but on some Kenwood radios it is as simple as Function -> VFO John, KG4AKV On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Zach Hillerson wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I don't mind having to manually enter the > appropriate frequency and have had zero issues following ao85 and so50 > through full passes. > > The issue that drives me crazy is having to reset the tone and step each > time I change satellites. If I have everything set with a 67hz tone and > 5khz step for an ao85 pass and then enter frequencies for a so50 pass I > have to redo the tone and steps. It automatically defaults each time to > 88.5 and 25khz steps. > > I don't know what to do to make this not have to occur. I would prefer to > just type in the appropriate frequencies and move on, not have to make the > other adjustments. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From burns at fisher.cc Wed Jan 13 21:41:42 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:41:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] TH D72 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Zach, are you saying that you don't use the memories at all, or that the tone and step size are not stored in the memories? I'm pretty sure that you can use one memory for the uplink and a different one for the downlink, and then set the A and B side each to a different one. I'm 99.9% sure I did that. And I sure thought that the tone was stored with the memory. I think I have an "Open SO50" and a "talk SO50" memory with different tones. But maybe I did not check. (Maybe that's why I have so much trouble!) 73, Burns W2BFJ On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Zach Hillerson wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I don't mind having to manually enter the > appropriate frequency and have had zero issues following ao85 and so50 > through full passes. > > The issue that drives me crazy is having to reset the tone and step each > time I change satellites. If I have everything set with a 67hz tone and > 5khz step for an ao85 pass and then enter frequencies for a so50 pass I > have to redo the tone and steps. It automatically defaults each time to > 88.5 and 25khz steps. > > I don't know what to do to make this not have to occur. I would prefer to > just type in the appropriate frequencies and move on, not have to make the > other adjustments. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 21:57:24 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:57:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] TH D72 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There might be helpful information in the following thread from this past summer: http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-July/053849.html Also especially this post: http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-July/053874.html "Another thing that's handy for the TH-d72 is the M>V key." John, KG4AKV On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > Zach, are you saying that you don't use the memories at all, or that the > tone and step size are not stored in the memories? I'm pretty sure that > you can use one memory for the uplink and a different one for the downlink, > and then set the A and B side each to a different one. I'm 99.9% sure I > did that. And I sure thought that the tone was stored with the memory. I > think I have an "Open SO50" and a "talk SO50" memory with different tones. > But maybe I did not check. (Maybe that's why I have so much trouble!) > > 73, > > Burns W2BFJ > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Zach Hillerson > wrote: > >> Thanks for the replies. I don't mind having to manually enter the >> appropriate frequency and have had zero issues following ao85 and so50 >> through full passes. >> >> The issue that drives me crazy is having to reset the tone and step each >> time I change satellites. If I have everything set with a 67hz tone and >> 5khz step for an ao85 pass and then enter frequencies for a so50 pass I >> have to redo the tone and steps. It automatically defaults each time to >> 88.5 and 25khz steps. >> >> I don't know what to do to make this not have to occur. I would prefer to >> just type in the appropriate frequencies and move on, not have to make the >> other adjustments. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From py4zbz at yahoo.com Wed Jan 13 22:32:53 2016 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Athenoxat-1 video References: <1950613009.3846472.1452724373318.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1950613009.3846472.1452724373318.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> First beacon received in Brazil by PY4ZBZ, at 6:20 in this video from Micro Space: | ? | | ? | | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | | ATX ORB gm2b | | | | View on youtu.be | Preview by Yahoo | | | | ? | 73 de Roland. From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Thu Jan 14 02:59:20 2016 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 02:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. ?Under EXCEPTIONS I found the following: - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board. Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. ?Terrific!!!!! From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Thu Jan 14 03:04:14 2016 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 03:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 3 more attending the 2016 Symposium References: <1957841799.3977188.1452740654075.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1957841799.3977188.1452740654075.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Count on 3 more. ?Myself (K9DLP), my wife (K9SCP), and my daughter. I upgraded to an ocean view ($7.00 more per person than the reserved inside cabins). ?Comes with a King size bed, a sofa couch, and a 3 foot by 4 foot window. ?I mentioned the AMSAT code and they said AMSAT will get credit for our 3 reservations. From jefforybroughton at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 13:01:13 2016 From: jefforybroughton at gmail.com (jeffory broughton) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:01:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Room upgrade Message-ID: Cathy and I u p graded out room to ocean view also, for no more than pocket change it was a no brainer ! Jeff WB8RJY jeff broughton From wa4sca at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 13:44:03 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:44:03 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL President Bestows President's Award on AMSAT's Tom Clark, K3IO Message-ID: <000201d14ed1$a20edef0$e62c9cd0$@GMAIL.COM> All, Our very own K3IO, no stranger to professional and ham accolades, has been honored by the ARRL for his decades of contributions: http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-president-bestows-president-s-award-on-amsat-s-tom-clark-k3io 73s, Alan WA4SCA From gzook at yahoo.com Thu Jan 14 15:09:32 2016 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal license to operate aboard the ship. ?Such a license is available but does cost $25.00. http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm ?Glen, K9STH AMSAT 239 / LM 463 Website: http://k9sth.net From: Douglas Phelps To: AMSAT BB Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. ?Under EXCEPTIONS I found the following: ? ? - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board. Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. ?Terrific!!!!! From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jan 14 15:11:06 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:11:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The Carnival Liberty is registered in Panama. An IARP will suffice: http://www.arrl.org/iarp 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but does cost $25.00. > > > http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm > > > > Glen, K9STH > AMSAT 239 / LM 463 > Website: http://k9sth.net > > > From: Douglas Phelps > To: AMSAT BB > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises > > I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under EXCEPTIONS I found the following: > > - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board. > Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. Terrific!!!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From normanlizeth at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 15:22:38 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Lizeth Norman) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:22:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Start now. The phone is a nightmare, there. Best bet would be to get someone to go directly and make applicaiton for all. Used to be 25$ YEARLY. That is if you got your reciprocral licsence this year, then wanted to operate 5 years hence, pay the full amount or be a pirate! Been there, done that, got the cards. Be aware that the rules change. A cautious man would visit. Last I heard, /C6A was copying Dominica's policy. The license was available at customs (presuming prior submisson of docs and $$$ .) On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but does cost $25.00. > > > http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm > > > > Glen, K9STH > AMSAT 239 / LM 463 > Website: http://k9sth.net > > > From: Douglas Phelps > To: AMSAT BB > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises > > I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under EXCEPTIONS I found the following: > > - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board. > Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. Terrific!!!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tosca005 at umn.edu Thu Jan 14 16:11:11 2016 From: tosca005 at umn.edu (John Toscano) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:11:11 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Plus a $10 application fee, and both fees cover only one year at a time (in case you plan to take more than one cruise over more than one year's time). You need a General Class license or better to apply. And you need to start making these arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last minute. All very reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not something you can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and you are only covered while on board the ship in international waters or in the territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of a little pre-planning. Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several (radioless, alas). 73 de W0JT/5 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and > that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal > license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but does > cost $25.00. > > > http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm > > > > Glen, K9STH > AMSAT 239 / LM 463 > Website: http://k9sth.net > > > From: Douglas Phelps > To: AMSAT BB > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises > > I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under > EXCEPTIONS I found the following: > > - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board. > Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. Terrific!!!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n0jy at amsat.org Thu Jan 14 16:45:29 2016 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:45:29 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. There are 10 months to the cruise, right now. Don't want to miss the opportunity to hear you on the Foxes! :-) Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote: > Plus a $10 application fee, and both fees cover only one year at a time (in > case you plan to take more than one cruise over more than one year's time). > You need a General Class license or better to apply. And you need to start > making these arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last > minute. All very reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not > something you can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and > you are only covered while on board the ship in international waters or in > the territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of > a little pre-planning. > > Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several (radioless, alas). > 73 de W0JT/5 > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and >> that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal >> license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but does >> cost $25.00. >> >> >> http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm >> >> >> >> Glen, K9STH >> AMSAT 239 / LM 463 >> Website: http://k9sth.net >> >> >> From: Douglas Phelps >> To: AMSAT BB >> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises >> >> I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under >> EXCEPTIONS I found the following: >> >> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board. >> Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. Terrific!!!!! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Thu Jan 14 16:47:41 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:47:41 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi! It has already been established that the Carnival Liberty is flagged in Panama, not the Bahamas. Bahamian licensing is different, and not relevant to the Symposium cruise. In addition to obtaining the IARP, a letter must also be sent to the Panamanian authorities outlining where and when you would be operating from Panamanian territory. The Radio Club de Panama explains this in English at: http://www.qsl.net/hp1rcp/PANAMA%20AMATEUR%20RADIO%20LICENSING%20INFORMATION.htm Unfortunately there isn't a mailing address, FAX number, or e-mail address for that office. I will send an e-mail to that club, asking for more contact information for that office. As I mentioned earlier this week, a notification is a lot better than having to file paperwork for a permit from the Panamanian authorities, and especially if a fee is required (like with a Bahamaian amateur license). The IARP should be sufficient for operation in international waters from that ship, or if the ship was in Panamanian territorial waters (it won't be, for this cruise). When the ship is in US territorial waters, an FCC-issued license or other license/permit recognized by FCC Part 97 (CEPT radio amateur license, CEPT novice radio amateur license, IARP, or licenses from other countries covered by other recpirocal operating agreements with the USA) would cover that. The cruise won't spend much time in US territorial waters, for what it's worth. Since the Mexican licensing authority is not currently issuing new amateur licenses or permits, there is basically no chance of operating from Mexican territorial waters or from Cozumel unless you already hold a Mexican license or permit. Mexico does not recognize CEPT or IARP arrangements. Even though some countries, like the USA, have a reciprocal- operating agreement with Mexico, this does not allow foreign hams to operate from Mexican territory without first obtaining a Mexican permit. Those permits were not cheap (my last Mexican permit in 2010 cost a total of US$ 125), was valid only for 6 months, and had "strings" (no operating from Mexican islands, no operating in contests or DXpeditions). 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:11 AM, John Toscano wrote: > Plus a $10 application fee, and both fees cover only one year at a time (in > case you plan to take more than one cruise over more than one year's time). > You need a General Class license or better to apply. And you need to start > making these arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last > minute. All very reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not > something you can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and > you are only covered while on board the ship in international waters or in > the territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of > a little pre-planning. > > Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several (radioless, alas). > 73 de W0JT/5 > > From lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com Thu Jan 14 18:32:57 2016 From: lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com (Lee Ernstrom) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:32:57 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: <5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> Message-ID: I wanted to operate the sats on the Norwegian Jewel, also of Bahama registry, so I called Norwegian and asked if it was okay to do so. I was told emphatically NO! So I left my radio gear home last September when we took our Alaskan cruise. However, while on board and talking to the first officer, I was told that since the cruise line abides by international law the captain would have no problem with allowing the use of my portable satellite station. Therefore, I concluded that it is better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. The worst thing that could have happened is that my radio equipment was confiscated which I could have recovered at the end of the cruise. I really wanted to be able to activate some of those rare CO grids! Lee (Doc) Ernstrom, WA7HQD, C6AQD Sent from my iPad > On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > > It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton > and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. > There are 10 months to the cruise, right now. Don't want to miss the > opportunity to hear you on the Foxes! :-) > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > >> On 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote: >> Plus a $10 application fee, and both fees cover only one year at a time (in >> case you plan to take more than one cruise over more than one year's time). >> You need a General Class license or better to apply. And you need to start >> making these arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last >> minute. All very reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not >> something you can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and >> you are only covered while on board the ship in international waters or in >> the territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of >> a little pre-planning. >> >> Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several (radioless, alas). >> 73 de W0JT/5 >> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB >> wrote: >> >>> Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and >>> that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal >>> license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but does >>> cost $25.00. >>> >>> >>> http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> Glen, K9STH >>> AMSAT 239 / LM 463 >>> Website: http://k9sth.net >>> >>> >>> From: Douglas Phelps >>> To: AMSAT BB >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises >>> >>> I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under >>> EXCEPTIONS I found the following: >>> >>> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board. >>> Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. Terrific!!!!! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bryan at kl7cn.net Thu Jan 14 18:40:15 2016 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:40:15 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> Message-ID: <2C74AC62-719D-441F-860F-339ED3EB1256@kl7cn.net> That aligns with my experience -- in my case with a Royal Caribbean (Bahamian) ship, the cruise line was very reluctant -- but the Captain and Communications Officer were fine with it. I carried extra printed copies of all such correspondence and other documentation with me in a binder -- and it came in quite handy when the cruise coordinator for our group panicked and demanded I justify myself before they would let me off the boat. All was well when I produced that copy of the approval e-mail from the Comms Officer. -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:32, Lee Ernstrom wrote: I wanted to operate the sats on the Norwegian Jewel, also of Bahama registry, so I called Norwegian and asked if it was okay to do so. I was told emphatically NO! So I left my radio gear home last September when we took our Alaskan cruise. However, while on board and talking to the first officer, I was told that since the cruise line abides by international law the captain would have no problem with allowing the use of my portable satellite station. Therefore, I concluded that it is better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. The worst thing that could have happened is that my radio equipment was confiscated which I could have recovered at the end of the cruise. I really wanted to be able to activate some of those rare CO grids! Lee (Doc) Ernstrom, WA7HQD, C6AQD Sent from my iPad > On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > > It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton > and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. > There are 10 months to the cruise, right now. Don't want to miss the > opportunity to hear you on the Foxes! :-) > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > >> On 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote: >> Plus a $10 application fee, and both fees cover only one year at a time (in >> case you plan to take more than one cruise over more than one year's time). >> You need a General Class license or better to apply. And you need to start >> making these arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last >> minute. All very reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not >> something you can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and >> you are only covered while on board the ship in international waters or in >> the territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of >> a little pre-planning. >> >> Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several (radioless, alas). >> 73 de W0JT/5 >> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB >> wrote: >> >>> Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and >>> that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal >>> license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but does >>> cost $25.00. >>> >>> >>> http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> Glen, K9STH >>> AMSAT 239 / LM 463 >>> Website: http://k9sth.net >>> >>> >>> From: Douglas Phelps >>> To: AMSAT BB >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises >>> >>> I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under >>> EXCEPTIONS I found the following: >>> >>> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board. >>> Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. Terrific!!!!! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From updwrb at bristor-assoc.com Thu Jan 14 19:28:56 2016 From: updwrb at bristor-assoc.com (w4upd) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:28:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: <2C74AC62-719D-441F-860F-339ED3EB1256@kl7cn.net> References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> <2C74AC62-719D-441F-860F-339ED3EB1256@kl7cn.net> Message-ID: <5697F6F8.80008@bristor-assoc.com> I checked with Royal Caribbean and they were very firm that Ham radio was not allowed on any of their ships regardless what the Captain or comm officer would say. RCCL has it documented in black and white in their brochures and web site of what was not allowed and Ham Radio/Amateur radio was specifically mentioned as not being allowed. I then asked via an email and got the same answer. Via email they tried to stipulate interference with the on-board equipment, but unlike a plane there should have been no problem. However, not wanting my equipment confiscated (and TSA was checking at the security checkpoints) I chose not to push my luck. Anyways, I was more interested in the cruise than operation from sea. Reid, W4UPD On 1/14/2016 1:40 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote: > That aligns with my experience -- in my case with a Royal Caribbean (Bahamian) ship, the cruise line was very reluctant -- but the Captain and Communications Officer were fine with it. > I carried extra printed copies of all such correspondence and other documentation with me in a binder -- and it came in quite handy when the cruise coordinator for our group panicked and demanded I justify myself before they would let me off the boat. All was well when I produced that copy of the approval e-mail from the Comms Officer. > -- bag > Bryan KL7CN/W6 > On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:32, Lee Ernstrom wrote: > I wanted to operate the sats on the Norwegian Jewel, also of Bahama registry, so I called Norwegian and asked if it was okay to do so. I was told emphatically NO! So I left my radio gear home last September when we took our Alaskan cruise. However, while on board and talking to the first officer, I was told that since the cruise line abides by international law the captain would have no problem with allowing the use of my portable satellite station. > Therefore, I concluded that it is better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. The worst thing that could have happened is that my radio equipment was confiscated which I could have recovered at the end of the cruise. I really wanted to be able to activate some of those rare CO grids! > Lee (Doc) Ernstrom, WA7HQD, C6AQD > Sent from my iPad >> On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote:> > It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton> and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. > There are 10 months to the cruise, right now. Don't want to miss the> opportunity to hear you on the Foxes! :-)> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY> >> On 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote:>> Plus a $10 application fee, and both fees cover only one year at a time (in>> case you plan to take more than one cruise over more than one year's time).>> You need a General Class license or better to apply. And you need to start>> making these arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last>> minute. All very reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not>> something you can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and>> you are only covered while on board the ship in international waters or in>> the territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of>> a little pre-planning.>> >> Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several (radioless, alas).>> 73 de W0JT/5>> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB >> wrote:>> >>> Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and>>> that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal>>> license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but does>>> cost $25.00.>>> >>> >>> http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm>>> >>> >>> >>> Glen, K9STH>>> AMSAT 239 / LM 463>>> Website: http://k9sth.net>>> >>> >>> From: Douglas Phelps >>> To: AMSAT BB >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises>>> >>> I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under>>> EXCEPTIONS I found the following:>>> >>> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board.>>> Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. Terrific!!!!!>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions>>> expressed>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of>>> AMSAT-NA.>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>> _______________________________________________>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb> > _______________________________________________> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w1xq at yahoo.com Thu Jan 14 19:31:18 2016 From: w1xq at yahoo.com (John) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:31:18 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: <5697F6F8.80008@bristor-assoc.com> References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> <2C74AC62-719D-441F-860F-339ED3EB1256@kl7cn.net> <5697F6F8.80008@bristor-assoc.com> Message-ID: I too just went on a RCCL cruise in December. Was stated as not allowed on their list and I asked on board and was told no and if found would be confiscated. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 14, 2016, at 1:28 PM, w4upd wrote: > > I checked with Royal Caribbean and they were very firm that Ham radio was not allowed on any of their ships regardless what the Captain or comm officer would say. RCCL has it documented in black and white in their brochures and web site of what was not allowed and Ham Radio/Amateur radio was specifically mentioned as not being allowed. I then asked via an email and got the same answer. Via email they tried to stipulate interference with the on-board equipment, but unlike a plane there should have been no problem. However, not wanting my equipment confiscated (and TSA was checking at the security checkpoints) I chose not to push my luck. Anyways, I was more interested in the cruise than operation from sea. > > Reid, W4UPD > > >> On 1/14/2016 1:40 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote: >> That aligns with my experience -- in my case with a Royal Caribbean (Bahamian) ship, the cruise line was very reluctant -- but the Captain and Communications Officer were fine with it. >> I carried extra printed copies of all such correspondence and other documentation with me in a binder -- and it came in quite handy when the cruise coordinator for our group panicked and demanded I justify myself before they would let me off the boat. All was well when I produced that copy of the approval e-mail from the Comms Officer. >> -- bag >> Bryan KL7CN/W6 >> On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:32, Lee Ernstrom wrote: >> I wanted to operate the sats on the Norwegian Jewel, also of Bahama registry, so I called Norwegian and asked if it was okay to do so. I was told emphatically NO! So I left my radio gear home last September when we took our Alaskan cruise. However, while on board and talking to the first officer, I was told that since the cruise line abides by international law the captain would have no problem with allowing the use of my portable satellite station. >> Therefore, I concluded that it is better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. The worst thing that could have happened is that my radio equipment was confiscated which I could have recovered at the end of the cruise. I really wanted to be able to activate some of those rare CO grids! >> Lee (Doc) Ernstrom, WA7HQD, C6AQD >> Sent from my iPad >>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote:> > It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton> and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. > There are 10 months to the cruise, right now. Don't want to miss the> opportunity to hear you on the Foxes! :-)> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY> >> On 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote:>> Plus a $10 application fee, and both fees cover only one year at a time (in>> case you plan to take more than one cruise over more than one year's time).>> You need a General Class license or better to apply. And you need to start>> making these arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last>> minute. All very reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not>> something you can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and>> you are only covered while on board the ship in international waters or in>> the territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of>> a little pre-planning.>> >> Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several (radioless, alas).>> 73 de W0JT/5>> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB >> wrote:>> >>> Except the fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and>>> that, under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal>>> license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but does>>> cost $25.00.>>> >>> >>> http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm>>> >>> >>> >>> Glen, K9STH>>> AMSAT 239 / LM 463>>> Website: http://k9sth.net>>> >>> >>> From: Douglas Phelps >>> To: AMSAT BB >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises>>> >>> I just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under>>> EXCEPTIONS I found the following:>>> >>> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio Equipment: Permitted to be used on board.>>> Looks like we do not even need to ask permission. Terrific!!!!!>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions>>> expressed>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of>>> AMSAT-NA.>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>> _______________________________________________>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb> > _______________________________________________> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From martha at amsat.org Thu Jan 14 22:56:58 2016 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:56:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SK Message-ID: Bob Carpenter, W3OTC died on January 8th. Since 1991 Bob had volunteered at the AMSAT Office on a weekly basis. He was our computer specialist and handled the donations for AMSAT. A memorial service will be held on January 23rd at 7:00PM a the Guild Memorial Chapel, Asbury Methodist Village, 211 Russell Ave, Gaithersburg MD. -- 73- Martha From electricity440 at gmail.com Fri Jan 15 01:03:49 2016 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:03:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour Message-ID: This is a reminder that the Colorado Amateur Satellite net will begin in 1 hour from now (7PM mountain time Thursday). 6PM Pacific 7PM Mountain 8PM Central 9PM Eastern Please visit us on *AMSATNET.INFO * *IRLP* 9870, the Denver Reflector *ALLSTAR LINK* 40764, direct hookup to the repeater here. 41715, KC9ZHV hub at a data center if I am out of bandwidth. More info on AllStar - amsatnet.info/#node *ECHOLINK* *AMSAT* unless there is an ARISS contact, then go direct to KD0WHB-L *LOCAL RF* 449.625 (-) 141.3 ( W?KU Lookout Mountain) 447.225 (-) 141.3 (The STEM school repeater we set up) 447.850 (-) 141.3 (AC?KQ's repeater where he lives on TOP of saddleback mountain) 147.450 SIMPLEX (Aurora, CO) 446.275 (-) 100.0 Galena St. Local repeater at my house, giving a whopping 5 blocks of great coverage *REMOTE RF* Your Repeater here!, Email me if you want to link in or me to link your echolink or allstar repeater in automatically (no automatic IRLP linking supported) Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Fri Jan 15 02:25:03 2016 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:25:03 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] EM01 Sunday 17 January Message-ID: Looks like good weather on Sunday, 17 January, so I'll give SO-50 a try from EM01. My AOS is 1705Z. 73 Glenn AA5PK From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri Jan 15 02:39:23 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:39:23 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2015 AMSAT Symposium Clock Question Message-ID: <003e01d14f3d$f1d8c650$d58a52f0$@GMAIL.COM> Hi, Just got the excellent clock, and it looks great in the shack. I know this isn't rocket science, but how do you reset the maximum and minimum humidity and temperature? All of the several similar devices I have or had do so by holding the Min/Max button for several seconds, but up to a minute does not work here. Not important, but curious. 73s, Alan WA4SCA ----------------------------------- Keep Calm and Carry On From mccardelm at gmail.com Fri Jan 15 03:51:37 2016 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (EMike McCardel) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 22:51:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2015 AMSAT Symposium Clock Question In-Reply-To: <003e01d14f3d$f1d8c650$d58a52f0$@GMAIL.COM> References: <003e01d14f3d$f1d8c650$d58a52f0$@GMAIL.COM> Message-ID: <9268D074-EA72-4D0F-BDE4-5FEC4FA3898D@gmail.com> Even more important. How do I cancel the alarm?! EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2016, at 21:39, Alan wrote: > > Hi, > > Just got the excellent clock, and it looks great in the shack. I know this isn't rocket science, but > how do you reset the maximum and minimum humidity and temperature? All of the several similar devices > I have or had do so by holding the Min/Max button for several seconds, but up to a minute does not > work here. Not important, but curious. > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > ----------------------------------- > > Keep Calm and Carry On > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk5do at att.net Fri Jan 15 04:46:03 2016 From: kk5do at att.net (kk5do at att.net) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 04:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 2015 AMSAT Symposium Clock Question In-Reply-To: <9268D074-EA72-4D0F-BDE4-5FEC4FA3898D@gmail.com> References: <9268D074-EA72-4D0F-BDE4-5FEC4FA3898D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1565197783.4413006.1452833163588.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } press the up botton to toggle the alarm 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Thursday, January 14, 2016, 9:51 PM, EMike McCardel wrote: Even more important. How do I cancel the alarm?! EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2016, at 21:39, Alan wrote: > > Hi, > > Just got the excellent clock, and it looks great in the shack.? I know this isn't rocket science, but > how do you reset the maximum and minimum humidity and temperature?? All of the several similar devices > I have or had do so by holding the Min/Max button for several seconds, but up to a minute does not > work here.? Not important, but curious. > > 73s, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > ----------------------------------- > > Keep Calm and Carry On > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Fri Jan 15 05:23:02 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:23:02 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL President Bestows President's Award on AMSAT's Tom Clark, K3IO Message-ID: <201601150523.u0F5N2Fi015713@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Known Tom for a few years (W3IWI/KL7 when he was up here doing something scientific). Concur with Bob McGwier's comments and praise for Tom (and he is hard at work for the Amsat future - too!). Very much deserved! Congrats, Tom. 73, Ed - KL7UW Message: 6 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:44:03 -0600 From: Alan To: "AMSAT-BB" Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL President Bestows President's Award on AMSAT's Tom Clark, K3IO Message-ID: <000201d14ed1$a20edef0$e62c9cd0$@GMAIL.COM> All, Our very own K3IO, no stranger to professional and ham accolades, has been honored by the ARRL for his decades of contributions: http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-president-bestows-president-s-award-on-amsat-s-tom-clark-k3io 73s, Alan WA4SCA 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com Fri Jan 15 05:54:39 2016 From: lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com (Lee Ernstrom) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 22:54:39 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] operating on cruise ships In-Reply-To: <5698191c.cd3d320a.435ff.7458SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <5698191c.cd3d320a.435ff.7458SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Good point John. Next time I will take the radios and then ask permission. Not the other way around :) Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jan 14, 2016, at 2:54 PM, John Papay wrote: > > Doc, > I think the better approach is to take your radio > equipment with you, and once you are on board, ask for > permission. > > If you operate on the ship and make contacts and don't > have permission as required, none of your contacts will > count. We haven't had any challenges in the VUCC program > in recent history but if contested you may have to prove > you had permission. > > Lots of people operate on grid lines and don't document > their operation as required by the VUCC rules. If someone > challenges and you can't substantiate you were on > the line using one of the methods described in the rules, > your contacts could be invalidated. That would be an > embarrassment for the operator as well as the station claiming > credit. > > There is more scrutiny with DXCC. I've worked many > DXpeditions that did have their documentation and they simply > didn't count. When I went to Rurutu and the Marquesas I had > to submit my license and copies of my passport showing when I > arrived and when I left. Sometimes you might be asked for > airline tickets for the local flights, receipts from your > hotel/hut etc. > > By the way, our Samsung Microwave quit during the holidays. > No display; nothing. We will have them come out to fix it > when we get back from Florida in April. Other appliances > are working fine! > > 73, > John K8YSE/4 > EL98rd > > John Papay > john at papays.com > From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Fri Jan 15 08:47:07 2016 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (dave at g4dpz.me.uk) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:47:07 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube warehouse problem Message-ID: <69B431CE-5110-49F4-A5CD-60EC5F9A3591@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi There is a problem at the ISP. Service will be resumed ASAP. 73 Dave Sent from my iPhone From AJ9N at aol.com Fri Jan 15 08:56:07 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 03:56:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-15 08:30 UTC Message-ID: <419cda.5bf49b4c.43ca0e27@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-15 08:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Scuola Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Benedetto Croce?, Civate, Italy, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact was successful: Wed 2016-01-13 11:35:44 UTC 33 deg (***) Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-20 08:37:04 UTC 26 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 114 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-15 08:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1018. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 983. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-15 08:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From jimlist at zoho.com Fri Jan 15 20:44:41 2016 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 20:44:41 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube mode change In-Reply-To: <2C74AC62-719D-441F-860F-339ED3EB1256@kl7cn.net> References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com><836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com><5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> <2C74AC62-719D-441F-860F-339ED3EB1256@kl7cn.net> Message-ID: <13CFA7B3CFE348DBA48DFF649D4F2ECA@jimPC2> Hi Folks, I have just set AO-73/FUNcube into permanent transponder mode. Plan, as usual, is to switch it back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC. Enjoy the transponder and have a FUN weekend. 73s Jim G3WGM From tosca005 at umn.edu Fri Jan 15 21:34:16 2016 From: tosca005 at umn.edu (John Toscano) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:34:16 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> <2C74AC62-719D-441F-860F-339ED3EB1256@kl7cn.net> <5697F6F8.80008@bristor-assoc.com> Message-ID: I find these recent experiences puzzling in view of the fact that this whole subject was provoked by an earlier thread that stated that Carnival explicitly listed Amateur Radio gear as ALLOWED on board, NOT SUBJECT to CONFISCATION. The last few replies to this thread talk about risk of equipment confiscation. When I saw the earlier post about non-confiscation, I realized that such a policy MIGHT mean only that you could carry such equipment on board the ship, but not a guarantee you could actually use it during the cruise. It seemed particularly odd that the cruise line would publicly state that our 2-way radio equipment is allowed on board and would not be confiscated, because I always assumed that at least that much could be taken for granted. Why? For one, because you can carry ham radio gear aboard a commercial airline even though it is clearly prohibited to actually USE the gear during a commercial flight, and for two, the last time I took a cruise, I saw tons of folks carrying hand-held 2-way radios on board, even though FRS radios (or other "license-free" radios) are not licensed for use outside of the United States. In most cases, I did not see them in use aboard the ship, but instead I saw them being carried to/from a shore excursion (still illegal to use them off-ship unless the port was in US territory). Well, I guess nowadays, you should take nothing for granted. The more written documentation you can provide, the happier the outcome is likelier to be. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:31 PM, John via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I too just went on a RCCL cruise in December. Was stated as not allowed > on their list and I asked on board and was told no and if found would be > confiscated. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 14, 2016, at 1:28 PM, w4upd wrote: > > > > I checked with Royal Caribbean and they were very firm that Ham radio > was not allowed on any of their ships regardless what the Captain or comm > officer would say. RCCL has it documented in black and white in their > brochures and web site of what was not allowed and Ham Radio/Amateur radio > was specifically mentioned as not being allowed. I then asked via an email > and got the same answer. Via email they tried to stipulate interference > with the on-board equipment, but unlike a plane there should have been no > problem. However, not wanting my equipment confiscated (and TSA was > checking at the security checkpoints) I chose not to push my luck. Anyways, > I was more interested in the cruise than operation from sea. > > > > Reid, W4UPD > > > > > >> On 1/14/2016 1:40 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote: > >> That aligns with my experience -- in my case with a Royal Caribbean > (Bahamian) ship, the cruise line was very reluctant -- but the Captain and > Communications Officer were fine with it. > >> I carried extra printed copies of all such correspondence and other > documentation with me in a binder -- and it came in quite handy when the > cruise coordinator for our group panicked and demanded I justify myself > before they would let me off the boat. All was well when I produced that > copy of the approval e-mail from the Comms Officer. > >> -- bag > >> Bryan KL7CN/W6 > >> On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:32, Lee Ernstrom > wrote: > >> I wanted to operate the sats on the Norwegian Jewel, also of Bahama > registry, so I called Norwegian and asked if it was okay to do so. I was > told emphatically NO! So I left my radio gear home last September when we > took our Alaskan cruise. However, while on board and talking to the first > officer, I was told that since the cruise line abides by international law > the captain would have no problem with allowing the use of my portable > satellite station. > >> Therefore, I concluded that it is better to ask forgiveness than to ask > permission. The worst thing that could have happened is that my radio > equipment was confiscated which I could have recovered at the end of the > cruise. I really wanted to be able to activate some of those rare CO grids! > >> Lee (Doc) Ernstrom, WA7HQD, C6AQD > >> Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote:> > > It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton> > and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. > > There are 10 months to the cruise, right now. Don't want to miss the> > opportunity to hear you on the Foxes! :-)> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY> >> On > 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote:>> Plus a $10 application fee, and both > fees cover only one year at a time (in>> case you plan to take more than > one cruise over more than one year's time).>> You need a General Class > license or better to apply. And you need to start>> making these > arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last>> minute. All very > reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not>> something you > can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and>> you are only > covered while on board the ship in international waters or in>> the > territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of>> a > little pre-planning.>> >> Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several > (radioless, alas).>> 73 de W0JT/5>> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, > Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB >> wrote:>> >>> Except the > fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and>>> that, > under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal>>> > license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but > does>>> cost $25.00.>>> >>> >>> > http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm>>> >>> >>> >>> Glen, > K9STH>>> AMSAT 239 / LM 463>>> Website: http://k9sth.net>>> >>> >>> > From: Douglas Phelps >>> To: AMSAT BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM>>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises>>> >>> I > just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. Under>>> > EXCEPTIONS I found the following:>>> >>> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio > Equipment: Permitted to be used on board.>>> Looks like we do not even need > to ask permission. Terrific!!!!!>>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________>>> Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>>> to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions>>> > expressed>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of>>> AMSAT-NA.>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to > support the amateur satellite program!>>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>> > _______________________________________________>> Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>> to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA.>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the > amateur satellite program!>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb> > > _______________________________________________> Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program!> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb_______________________________________________Sent > via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program!Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> _______________________________________________Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program!Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Jan 15 21:40:23 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 16:40:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <818120982.3896297.1452740360860.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <836153113.5475899.1452784172625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <5697D0A9.90602@amsat.org> <2C74AC62-719D-441F-860F-339ED3EB1256@kl7cn.net> <5697F6F8.80008@bristor-assoc.com> Message-ID: These experiences are from Royal Caribbean cruises, not Carnival. Carnival is ham friendly! 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 4:34 PM, John Toscano wrote: > I find these recent experiences puzzling in view of the fact that this > whole subject was provoked by an earlier thread that stated that Carnival > explicitly listed Amateur Radio gear as ALLOWED on board, NOT SUBJECT to > CONFISCATION. The last few replies to this thread talk about risk of > equipment confiscation. When I saw the earlier post about non-confiscation, > I realized that such a policy MIGHT mean only that you could carry such > equipment on board the ship, but not a guarantee you could actually use it > during the cruise. It seemed particularly odd that the cruise line would > publicly state that our 2-way radio equipment is allowed on board and would > not be confiscated, because I always assumed that at least that much could > be taken for granted. Why? For one, because you can carry ham radio gear > aboard a commercial airline even though it is clearly prohibited to > actually USE the gear during a commercial flight, and for two, the last > time I took a cruise, I saw tons of folks carrying hand-held 2-way radios > on board, even though FRS radios (or other "license-free" radios) are not > licensed for use outside of the United States. In most cases, I did not see > them in use aboard the ship, but instead I saw them being carried to/from a > shore excursion (still illegal to use them off-ship unless the port was in > US territory). Well, I guess nowadays, you should take nothing for granted. > The more written documentation you can provide, the happier the outcome is > likelier to be. > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:31 PM, John via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > I too just went on a RCCL cruise in December. Was stated as not allowed > > on their list and I asked on board and was told no and if found would be > > confiscated. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On Jan 14, 2016, at 1:28 PM, w4upd wrote: > > > > > > I checked with Royal Caribbean and they were very firm that Ham radio > > was not allowed on any of their ships regardless what the Captain or comm > > officer would say. RCCL has it documented in black and white in their > > brochures and web site of what was not allowed and Ham Radio/Amateur > radio > > was specifically mentioned as not being allowed. I then asked via an > email > > and got the same answer. Via email they tried to stipulate interference > > with the on-board equipment, but unlike a plane there should have been no > > problem. However, not wanting my equipment confiscated (and TSA was > > checking at the security checkpoints) I chose not to push my luck. > Anyways, > > I was more interested in the cruise than operation from sea. > > > > > > Reid, W4UPD > > > > > > > > >> On 1/14/2016 1:40 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote: > > >> That aligns with my experience -- in my case with a Royal Caribbean > > (Bahamian) ship, the cruise line was very reluctant -- but the Captain > and > > Communications Officer were fine with it. > > >> I carried extra printed copies of all such correspondence and other > > documentation with me in a binder -- and it came in quite handy when the > > cruise coordinator for our group panicked and demanded I justify myself > > before they would let me off the boat. All was well when I produced that > > copy of the approval e-mail from the Comms Officer. > > >> -- bag > > >> Bryan KL7CN/W6 > > >> On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:32, Lee Ernstrom > > wrote: > > >> I wanted to operate the sats on the Norwegian Jewel, also of Bahama > > registry, so I called Norwegian and asked if it was okay to do so. I was > > told emphatically NO! So I left my radio gear home last September when we > > took our Alaskan cruise. However, while on board and talking to the > first > > officer, I was told that since the cruise line abides by international > law > > the captain would have no problem with allowing the use of my portable > > satellite station. > > >> Therefore, I concluded that it is better to ask forgiveness than to > ask > > permission. The worst thing that could have happened is that my radio > > equipment was confiscated which I could have recovered at the end of the > > cruise. I really wanted to be able to activate some of those rare CO > grids! > > >> Lee (Doc) Ernstrom, WA7HQD, C6AQD > > >> Sent from my iPad > > >>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote:> > > > It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton> > > and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. > > > There are 10 months to the cruise, right now. Don't want to miss the> > > opportunity to hear you on the Foxes! :-)> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY> >> > On > > 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote:>> Plus a $10 application fee, and > both > > fees cover only one year at a time (in>> case you plan to take more than > > one cruise over more than one year's time).>> You need a General Class > > license or better to apply. And you need to start>> making these > > arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last>> minute. All > very > > reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not>> something you > > can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and>> you are only > > covered while on board the ship in international waters or in>> the > > territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy > of>> a > > little pre-planning.>> >> Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several > > (radioless, alas).>> 73 de W0JT/5>> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, > > Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB >> wrote:>> >>> Except the > > fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and>>> that, > > under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal>>> > > license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but > > does>>> cost $25.00.>>> >>> >>> > > http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm>>> >>> >>> >>> Glen, > > K9STH>>> AMSAT 239 / LM 463>>> Website: http://k9sth.net>>> >>> >>> > > From: Douglas Phelps >>> To: AMSAT BB < > > amsat-bb at amsat.org>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM>>> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises>>> >>> I > > just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. > Under>>> > > EXCEPTIONS I found the following:>>> >>> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio > > Equipment: Permitted to be used on board.>>> Looks like we do not even > need > > to ask permission. Terrific!!!!!>>> >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________>>> Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>>> to all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions>>> > > expressed>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > > official views of>>> AMSAT-NA.>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to > > support the amateur satellite program!>>> Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>> > > _______________________________________________>> Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>> to all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official > > views of AMSAT-NA.>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the > > amateur satellite program!>> Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb> > > > _______________________________________________> Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official > > views of AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the > amateur > > satellite program!> Subscription settings: > > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb_______________________________________________Sent > > via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > > satellite program!Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > >> _______________________________________________Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > > satellite program!Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From dphelps1 at ameritech.net Fri Jan 15 21:43:29 2016 From: dphelps1 at ameritech.net (Douglas Phelps) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I started the thread by saying the HAM Radio is allowed on board and the Carnival rules says that they may also be used on board. ?Permission to use the radios is in the rules. ?Yes, we will need to get a temporary license and send a letter to Panama. From: John Toscano To: John Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises I find these recent experiences puzzling in view of the fact that this whole subject was provoked by an earlier thread that stated that Carnival explicitly listed Amateur Radio gear as ALLOWED on board, NOT SUBJECT to CONFISCATION. The last few replies to this thread talk about risk of equipment confiscation. When I saw the earlier post about non-confiscation, I realized that such a policy MIGHT mean only that you could carry such equipment on board the ship, but not a guarantee you could actually use it during the cruise. It seemed particularly odd that the cruise line would publicly state that our 2-way radio equipment is allowed on board and would not be confiscated, because I always assumed that at least that much could be taken for granted. Why? For one, because you can carry ham radio gear aboard a commercial airline even though it is clearly prohibited to actually USE the gear during a commercial flight, and for two, the last time I took a cruise, I saw tons of folks carrying hand-held 2-way radios on board, even though FRS radios (or other "license-free" radios) are not licensed for use outside of the United States. In most cases, I did not see them in use aboard the ship, but instead I saw them being carried to/from a shore excursion (still illegal to use them off-ship unless the port was in US territory). Well, I guess nowadays, you should take nothing for granted. The more written documentation you can provide, the happier the outcome is likelier to be. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:31 PM, John via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I too just went on a RCCL cruise in December.? Was stated as not allowed > on their list and I asked on board and was told no and if found would be > confiscated. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 14, 2016, at 1:28 PM, w4upd wrote: > > > > I checked with Royal Caribbean and they were very firm that Ham radio > was not allowed on any of their ships regardless what the Captain or comm > officer would say. RCCL has it documented in black and white in their > brochures and web site of what was not allowed and Ham Radio/Amateur radio > was specifically mentioned as not being allowed. I then asked via an email > and got the same answer. Via email they tried to stipulate interference > with the on-board equipment, but unlike a plane there should have been no > problem. However, not wanting my equipment confiscated (and TSA was > checking at the security checkpoints) I chose not to push my luck. Anyways, > I was more interested in the cruise than operation from sea. > > > > Reid, W4UPD > > > > > >> On 1/14/2016 1:40 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote: > >> That aligns with my experience -- in my case with a Royal Caribbean > (Bahamian) ship, the cruise line was very reluctant -- but the Captain and > Communications Officer were fine with it. > >> I carried extra printed copies of all such correspondence and other > documentation with me in a binder -- and it came in quite handy when the > cruise coordinator for our group panicked and demanded I justify myself > before they would let me off the boat. All was well when I produced that > copy of the approval e-mail from the Comms Officer. > >> -- bag > >> Bryan KL7CN/W6 > >> On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:32, Lee Ernstrom > wrote: > >> I wanted to operate the sats on the Norwegian Jewel, also of Bahama > registry, so I called Norwegian and asked if it was okay to do so.? I was > told emphatically NO! So I left my radio gear home last September when we > took our Alaskan cruise.? However, while on board and talking to the first > officer, I was told that since the cruise line abides by international law > the captain would have no problem with allowing the use of my portable > satellite station. > >> Therefore, I concluded that it is better to ask forgiveness than to ask > permission.? The worst thing that could have happened is that my radio > equipment was confiscated which I could have recovered at the end of the > cruise.? I really wanted to be able to activate some of those rare CO grids! > >> Lee (Doc) Ernstrom, WA7HQD, C6AQD > >> Sent from my iPad > >>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote:> > > It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton> > and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. > > There are 10 months to the cruise, right now.? Don't want to miss the> > opportunity to hear you on the Foxes!? ? :-)> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY> >> On > 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote:>> Plus a $10 application fee, and both > fees cover only one year at a time (in>> case you plan to take more than > one cruise over more than one year's time).>> You need a General Class > license or better to apply. And you need to start>> making these > arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last>> minute. All very > reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not>> something you > can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and>> you are only > covered while on board the ship in international waters or in>> the > territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy of>> a > little pre-planning.>> >> Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several > (radioless, alas).>> 73 de W0JT/5>> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, > Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB >> wrote:>> >>> Except the > fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and>>> that, > under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal>>> > license to operate aboard the ship.? Such a license is available but > does>>> cost $25.00.>>> >>> >>> > http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm>>> >>> >>> >>> Glen, > K9STH>>> AMSAT 239 / LM 463>>> Website: http://k9sth.net>>> >>> >>> >? From: Douglas Phelps >>> To: AMSAT BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM>>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises>>> >>> I > just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items.? Under>>> > EXCEPTIONS I found the following:>>> >>> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio > Equipment: Permitted to be used on board.>>> Looks like we do not even need > to ask permission.? Terrific!!!!!>>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________>>> Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>>> to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions>>> > expressed>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of>>> AMSAT-NA.>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to > support the amateur satellite program!>>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>> > _______________________________________________>> Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>> to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA.>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the > amateur satellite program!>> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb> > > _______________________________________________> Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program!> Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb_______________________________________________Sent > via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program!Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> _______________________________________________Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program!Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dxdx at optonline.net Fri Jan 15 23:36:09 2016 From: dxdx at optonline.net (Tony) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:36:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LiliacSat-2 Soundcard Modem? Message-ID: <56998269.3070905@optonline.net> All: Is there a sound card modem available that can decode LilacSat's 4.8 GFSK / 9.6k RRC-BPSK telemetry signals? While on this subject, are there other satellites that carry uncommon or specialized modems? Thanks Tony From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Jan 15 23:48:40 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:48:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LiliacSat-2 Soundcard Modem? In-Reply-To: <56998269.3070905@optonline.net> References: <56998269.3070905@optonline.net> Message-ID: The LilacSat-2 team makes a Live CD available for decoding. I wonder if it would work in a Virtual Machine... http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/?page_id=257 Thanks for the QSO on AO-85 earlier! 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Tony wrote: > All: > > Is there a sound card modem available that can decode LilacSat's 4.8 GFSK > / 9.6k RRC-BPSK telemetry signals? While on this subject, are there other > satellites that carry uncommon or specialized modems? > > Thanks > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From peter at m3php.com Sat Jan 16 00:04:22 2016 From: peter at m3php.com (Peter Goodhall) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 00:04:22 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] LiliacSat-2 Soundcard Modem? In-Reply-To: References: <56998269.3070905@optonline.net> Message-ID: Paul, Last time I tried the Live CD ISO, it opened just fine within Virtual Box and VMwares offerings. Pete, 2E0SQL On 15 January 2016 at 23:48, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > The LilacSat-2 team makes a Live CD available for decoding. I wonder if it > would work in a Virtual Machine... > > http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/?page_id=257 > > Thanks for the QSO on AO-85 earlier! > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Tony wrote: > >> All: >> >> Is there a sound card modem available that can decode LilacSat's 4.8 GFSK >> / 9.6k RRC-BPSK telemetry signals? While on this subject, are there other >> satellites that carry uncommon or specialized modems? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tony >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL From daniel at destevez.net Sat Jan 16 09:01:38 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:01:38 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] LiliacSat-2 Soundcard Modem? In-Reply-To: <56998269.3070905@optonline.net> References: <56998269.3070905@optonline.net> Message-ID: <569A06F2.6050107@destevez.net> El 16/01/16 a las 00:36, Tony escribi?: > All: > > Is there a sound card modem available that can decode LilacSat's 4.8 > GFSK / 9.6k RRC-BPSK telemetry signals? While on this subject, are there > other satellites that carry uncommon or specialized modems? Dear Tony, As others have said, there's a Live CD from the Harbin Institute of Technology that includes a GNURadio decoder. If you like to experiment with the software, I suggest that you also take a look at the GNURadio decoder I've made based on the Harbin Institute decoder. It includes some new features, such as record an playback and doppler correction with Gpredict. http://destevez.net/2015/11/lilacsat-2-gnuradio-receiver/ 73, Dani. From skristof at etczone.com Sat Jan 16 11:37:36 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 06:37:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?LiliacSat-2_Soundcard_Modem=3F?= In-Reply-To: <569A06F2.6050107@destevez.net> References: <56998269.3070905@optonline.net> <569A06F2.6050107@destevez.net> Message-ID: <230837f15897a919102daff793a9f192@etczone.com> Dani, Does your decoder run under Windows or Linux? Steve AI9IN On 2016-01-16 04:01, Dani EA4GPZ wrote: > El 16/01/16 a las 00:36, Tony escribi?: > >> All: Is there a sound card modem available that can decode LilacSat's 4.8 GFSK / 9.6k RRC-BPSK telemetry signals? While on this subject, are there other satellites that carry uncommon or specialized modems? > > Dear Tony, > > As others have said, there's a Live CD from the Harbin Institute of > Technology that includes a GNURadio decoder. > > If you like to experiment with the software, I suggest that you also > take a look at the GNURadio decoder I've made based on the Harbin > Institute decoder. It includes some new features, such as record an > playback and doppler correction with Gpredict. > > http://destevez.net/2015/11/lilacsat-2-gnuradio-receiver/ [1] > > 73, > > Dani. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [2] Links: ------ [1] http://destevez.net/2015/11/lilacsat-2-gnuradio-receiver/ [2] http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From daniel at destevez.net Sat Jan 16 14:22:46 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:22:46 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] LiliacSat-2 Soundcard Modem? In-Reply-To: <230837f15897a919102daff793a9f192@etczone.com> References: <56998269.3070905@optonline.net> <569A06F2.6050107@destevez.net> <230837f15897a919102daff793a9f192@etczone.com> Message-ID: <569A5236.5080108@destevez.net> El 16/01/16 a las 12:37, skristof at etczone.com escribi?: > > > Dani, > > Does your decoder run under Windows or Linux? Hi Steve, It's a GNURadio flowgraph (as the Harbin decoder), so it runs wherever you can manage to install GNURadio. In Linux it works fine. In Windows I haven't tested it, but it should be possible to make it work. 73, Dani. From johnag9d at gmail.com Sat Jan 16 18:38:04 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (John Spasojevich) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:38:04 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bear in mind a couple of things. First the website may not be completely updated or accurate. Second and most important, the FINAL WORD aboard a ship rests with the CAPTAIN....even in the corporate world....It can say on their website...bring your KW and your Az/El and feel free to set them up anywhere on the ship you please. When you get there, the Captain, for any reason he deems sufficient, which means he woke up on the wrong side of the bed to he just doesn't understand it, can say NO. Confiscation would come if you are found using it after you are told no. The Captain is also the chief of police, judge and jury aboard the ship he is charged with keeping safe. You may be told by a reservation specialist that you can being and use. Once aboard you may find it different. Just because the Captain of the Carnival Inspiration let Jimmy Ham operate last year does not mean the Captain of the Liberty will. My suggestion is for the *organizers* to contact Carnival, preferably at a management level, if there is a group booking code, they will know you are a large group, explain AMSAT and that you respectfully request the opportunity to operate low power ( unless you are seriously bringing a KW). Get some names of who you spoke with. When the lead organizer gets aboard, find the Cruise Director and introduce yourself and go through the request to operate again. If they seem reluctant, use the names. Its going to be best to have a single point of contact make the request for the group rather than 200 hams asking the same question over and over. typically you won't get access to the Captain although there are times when he makes a presentation to those interested passengers or you may find him at dinner ( sometimes its not the actual captain but a staff captain) and you may be able to snag him then and ask directly. I would not operate without actual permission, you may find your gear locked up until the end of the trip. 73, John - AG9D On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Douglas Phelps wrote: > I started the thread by saying the HAM Radio is allowed on board and the > Carnival rules says that they may also be used on board. Permission to use > the radios is in the rules. Yes, we will need to get a temporary license > and send a letter to Panama. > > > > From: John Toscano > To: John > Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises > > I find these recent experiences puzzling in view of the fact that this > whole subject was provoked by an earlier thread that stated that Carnival > explicitly listed Amateur Radio gear as ALLOWED on board, NOT SUBJECT to > CONFISCATION. The last few replies to this thread talk about risk of > equipment confiscation. When I saw the earlier post about non-confiscation, > I realized that such a policy MIGHT mean only that you could carry such > equipment on board the ship, but not a guarantee you could actually use it > during the cruise. It seemed particularly odd that the cruise line would > publicly state that our 2-way radio equipment is allowed on board and would > not be confiscated, because I always assumed that at least that much could > be taken for granted. Why? For one, because you can carry ham radio gear > aboard a commercial airline even though it is clearly prohibited to > actually USE the gear during a commercial flight, and for two, the last > time I took a cruise, I saw tons of folks carrying hand-held 2-way radios > on board, even though FRS radios (or other "license-free" radios) are not > licensed for use outside of the United States. In most cases, I did not see > them in use aboard the ship, but instead I saw them being carried to/from a > shore excursion (still illegal to use them off-ship unless the port was in > US territory). Well, I guess nowadays, you should take nothing for granted. > The more written documentation you can provide, the happier the outcome is > likelier to be. > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:31 PM, John via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > > > I too just went on a RCCL cruise in December. Was stated as not allowed > > on their list and I asked on board and was told no and if found would be > > confiscated. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On Jan 14, 2016, at 1:28 PM, w4upd wrote: > > > > > > I checked with Royal Caribbean and they were very firm that Ham radio > > was not allowed on any of their ships regardless what the Captain or comm > > officer would say. RCCL has it documented in black and white in their > > brochures and web site of what was not allowed and Ham Radio/Amateur > radio > > was specifically mentioned as not being allowed. I then asked via an > email > > and got the same answer. Via email they tried to stipulate interference > > with the on-board equipment, but unlike a plane there should have been no > > problem. However, not wanting my equipment confiscated (and TSA was > > checking at the security checkpoints) I chose not to push my luck. > Anyways, > > I was more interested in the cruise than operation from sea. > > > > > > Reid, W4UPD > > > > > > > > >> On 1/14/2016 1:40 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote: > > >> That aligns with my experience -- in my case with a Royal Caribbean > > (Bahamian) ship, the cruise line was very reluctant -- but the Captain > and > > Communications Officer were fine with it. > > >> I carried extra printed copies of all such correspondence and other > > documentation with me in a binder -- and it came in quite handy when the > > cruise coordinator for our group panicked and demanded I justify myself > > before they would let me off the boat. All was well when I produced that > > copy of the approval e-mail from the Comms Officer. > > >> -- bag > > >> Bryan KL7CN/W6 > > >> On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:32, Lee Ernstrom > > wrote: > > >> I wanted to operate the sats on the Norwegian Jewel, also of Bahama > > registry, so I called Norwegian and asked if it was okay to do so. I was > > told emphatically NO! So I left my radio gear home last September when we > > took our Alaskan cruise. However, while on board and talking to the > first > > officer, I was told that since the cruise line abides by international > law > > the captain would have no problem with allowing the use of my portable > > satellite station. > > >> Therefore, I concluded that it is better to ask forgiveness than to > ask > > permission. The worst thing that could have happened is that my radio > > equipment was confiscated which I could have recovered at the end of the > > cruise. I really wanted to be able to activate some of those rare CO > grids! > > >> Lee (Doc) Ernstrom, WA7HQD, C6AQD > > >> Sent from my iPad > > >>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote:> > > > It's not Bahamian registry guys, I would recommend that you let Clayton> > > and the organizers get the specific information out before you jump. > > > There are 10 months to the cruise, right now. Don't want to miss the> > > opportunity to hear you on the Foxes! :-)> > Jerry Buxton, N?JY> >> On > > 1/14/2016 10:11, John Toscano wrote:>> Plus a $10 application fee, and > both > > fees cover only one year at a time (in>> case you plan to take more than > > one cruise over more than one year's time).>> You need a General Class > > license or better to apply. And you need to start>> making these > > arrangements a few months ahead of time, mot at the last>> minute. All > very > > reasonable requirements, but just sayin' that this is not>> something you > > can decide to do o a whim without serious planning.Oh, and>> you are only > > covered while on board the ship in international waters or in>> the > > territorial waters of the Bahamas. Again, very reasonable but worthy > of>> a > > little pre-planning.>> >> Enjoy your cruise. I have enjouyed several > > (radioless, alas).>> 73 de W0JT/5>> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:09 AM, > > Glen Zook via AMSAT-BB >> wrote:>> >>> Except the > > fact that all the Carnival ships are of Bahamian registry and>>> that, > > under international regulations, one must have a Bahamas reciprocal>>> > > license to operate aboard the ship. Such a license is available but > > does>>> cost $25.00.>>> >>> >>> > > http://www.waterwayradio.net/intl_operating.htm>>> >>> >>> >>> Glen, > > K9STH>>> AMSAT 239 / LM 463>>> Website: http://k9sth.net>>> >>> >>> > > From: Douglas Phelps >>> To: AMSAT BB < > > amsat-bb at amsat.org>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM>>> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises>>> >>> I > > just read the complete list of prohibited and confiscated items. > Under>>> > > EXCEPTIONS I found the following:>>> >>> - Ham Radios/Amateur Radio > > Equipment: Permitted to be used on board.>>> Looks like we do not even > need > > to ask permission. Terrific!!!!!>>> >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________>>> Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>>> to all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions>>> > > expressed>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > > official views of>>> AMSAT-NA.>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to > > support the amateur satellite program!>>> Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>> > > _______________________________________________>> Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available>> to all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official > > views of AMSAT-NA.>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the > > amateur satellite program!>> Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb> > > > _______________________________________________> Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available> to all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official > > views of AMSAT-NA.> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the > amateur > > satellite program!> Subscription settings: > > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb_______________________________________________Sent > > via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > > satellite program!Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > >> _______________________________________________Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > > satellite program!Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb1pvh at gmail.com Sat Jan 16 19:01:04 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:01:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This thread is like a weekend afternoon SO-50 pass with everyone talking and nobody listening. It's already been stated that whoever is heading this is in the process of getting authorization from the cruise line and I'm sure the Captain also so there won't be any wondering when it's time. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From w5pfg at amsat.org Sat Jan 16 19:22:19 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:22:19 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@ mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <569A986B.4060104@amsat.org> Official details about operating on the AMSAT 2016 Symposium at Sea cruise will be published in the AMSAT News Service and AMSAT Journal in the coming months. The Symposium is ten months away. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/16/2016 13:01, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > This thread is like a weekend afternoon SO-50 pass with everyone talking > and nobody listening. > > It's already been stated that whoever is heading this is in the process of > getting authorization from the cruise line and I'm sure the Captain also so > there won't be any wondering when it's time. > > Dave-KB1PVH > > Sent from my Samsung S4 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From johnag9d at gmail.com Sat Jan 16 20:44:55 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (John Spasojevich) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:44:55 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry for chiming in...I sailed professionally in the 80's so I have some experience with ship captains. I'll wade through the endless dribble next time and I'll keep in mind that hams never, ever, do anything they aren't supposed to do. John AG9D On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > This thread is like a weekend afternoon SO-50 pass with everyone talking > and nobody listening. > > It's already been stated that whoever is heading this is in the process of > getting authorization from the cruise line and I'm sure the Captain also so > there won't be any wondering when it's time. > > Dave-KB1PVH > > Sent from my Samsung S4 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb1pvh at gmail.com Sat Jan 16 20:48:43 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:48:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I never sailed professionally, but I do tend to read all posts before making comments so I'm up to speed on the conversation. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From bryan at kl7cn.net Sat Jan 16 21:08:03 2016 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:08:03 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0DE40D6D-DC05-43C4-A18F-385FA8492CB0@kl7cn.net> I was a deckhand on a 21-foot aluminum skiff based in Ninilchik, Alaska back in the 80s. I *ALWAYS* did what the captain said. I was a little bit scared of him. Just FYI. On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:48, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: I never sailed professionally, but I do tend to read all posts before making comments so I'm up to speed on the conversation. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From randyw4412 at aol.com Sun Jan 17 00:41:19 2016 From: randyw4412 at aol.com (randyw4412) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:41:19 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises Message-ID: I will be bringing my 160 meter loop attached to my Icom 2AT. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6.-------- Original message --------From: Bryan KL7CN Date: 1/16/2016 3:08 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Dave Webb KB1PVH Cc: AMSAT -BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises I was a deckhand on a 21-foot aluminum skiff based in Ninilchik, Alaska back in the 80s. I *ALWAYS* did what the captain said. I was a little bit scared of him. Just FYI. On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:48, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: I never sailed professionally, but I do tend to read all posts before making comments so I'm up to speed on the conversation. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnag9d at gmail.com Sun Jan 17 02:21:27 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (Personal) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 20:21:27 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Radio are permitter on Carnival Cruises In-Reply-To: References: <1862741101.4717060.1452894209751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1887F8E4-CAED-4F05-AE56-91612E8C5EBB@gmail.com> Yes sir...thanks for chastising me for being so ignorant. I will try and do better next time so as not to disappoint you. John AG9D Sent from my iPad > On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: > > I never sailed professionally, but I do tend to read all posts before > making comments so I'm up to speed on the conversation. > > Dave-KB1PVH > > Sent from my Samsung S4 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at druidnetworks.com Sun Jan 17 03:02:13 2016 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (Dave Swanson) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:02:13 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] KG5CCI/P EM35 2016-01-17 Message-ID: <569B0435.6000709@druidnetworks.com> Friends and Colleagues, I'll be up in EM35 tomorrow, scouting out a fabled spot in the Ozarks that I've heard of from other ham radio operators and off-road travelers. Supposedly this mountain is 500' higher than anything else around it, has 360? unobstructed views, is miles from the nearest power line, and has a somewhat respectable Jeep trail to the top. If such a mystical spot truly exists, I plan to hang out for a few hours and operate the following passes from the site: 2016-01-17 1529z SO-50 2016-01-17 1649z AO-73 2016-01-17 1700z SO-50 2016-01-17 1736z FO-29 2016-01-17 1758z AO-7(B) (Big EU Footprint) 2016-01-17 1848z SO-50 2016-01-17 1918z FO-29 For western hemisphere chasers, I will try to hand out anyone needing EM35 on all birds other than AO7. There's plenty of passes on both linear and FM, so I should get you in the logs no problem, even if the mountain turns out to be a bust. On the AO-7 pass at 1758z though, as it will only be 1.6? in elevation from this location, I will be using it for something a little special. I'll be using a couple of precision clocks and cameras in order to record actual AOS and LOS times, and compare that to the times that the computer calculates for my location. As I've indicated before, I have some theories of just how much elevation can affect satellite visibility, but I'm always trying to collect more data to back these theories up. As soon as I can get into the bird I'll begin CQing in SSB around 145.945 and will continue until I have lost it again some minutes later. The computer says I should have 7 minutes and 18 seconds of visibility, but based on my observations, the Height Above Average Terrain (HAAT) of this location should grant me an additional 55 seconds on the front and about 45 seconds on the end of the pass. I would appreciate any listeners out there with bigger footprints that I will have (if they're not chasing new contacts that is) to note the time they first hear me, and the time that I disappear into the noise, and email me with the results. I would also welcome any DX stations to stop by and have a quick QSO, if they're interested in picking up a new grid that I don't believe any Sat operators live in. Normally it's our friends across the pond that us Americans are chasing after, so I'm going to do my best to return the favor when I can, with trips like tomorrow. As always, I'll be providing play-by-play on Twitter @KG5CCI. I may also throw an HF rig in, for the downtime between passes and I'll announce my spots on Twitter if I do. Twitter will also be the way to find out if something goes horribly wrong with the plans, such as the mountain is inhabited by silver coveting dragons and I have to trade my N-connectors for my life.. or snow.. but more likely dragons.. anyway.. Hope to hear you tomorrow. 73! Dave, KG5CCI From wmc_jx at 163.com Sun Jan 17 09:37:48 2016 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 17:37:48 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] LiliacSat-2 Soundcard Modem? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <749ab036.5b1a.1524ef29bc1.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi Dani, I am a member of LilacSat-2 team. I have read all your four blogs about LilacSat-2. Thank you very much for the information about gr-gpredict-doppler. It is new to me. And thank you very much for all your work! 73! Wei Mingchuan, BG2BHC >Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:01:38 +0100 >From: Dani EA4GPZ >To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LiliacSat-2 Soundcard Modem? >Message-ID: <569A06F2.6050107 at destevez.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >El 16/01/16 a las 00:36, Tony escribi?: >> All: >> >> Is there a sound card modem available that can decode LilacSat's 4.8 >> GFSK / 9.6k RRC-BPSK telemetry signals? While on this subject, are there >> other satellites that carry uncommon or specialized modems? > >Dear Tony, > >As others have said, there's a Live CD from the Harbin Institute of >Technology that includes a GNURadio decoder. > >If you like to experiment with the software, I suggest that you also >take a look at the GNURadio decoder I've made based on the Harbin >Institute decoder. It includes some new features, such as record an >playback and doppler correction with Gpredict. > >http://destevez.net/2015/11/lilacsat-2-gnuradio-receiver/ > >73, > >Dani. > From ku4os at cfl.rr.com Sun Jan 17 12:47:55 2016 From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 07:47:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-017 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <569B8D7B.4060005@cfl.rr.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-017 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * ARRL President Bestows President?s Award on AMSAT?s Tom Clark, K3IO * Joseph Spier, K6WAO, Appointed VP-Educational Relations * 25 Year AMSAT Office Volunteer Bob Carpenter, W3OTC, SK * Nepal students to speak to Tim Peake * ESA Online Astronaut Selection Tes SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-017.01 ANS-017 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 017.01 From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD. January 17, 2016 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-017.01 ARRL President Bestows President?s Award on AMSAT?s Tom Clark, K3IO The ARRL has honored veteran AMSAT personality and Amateur Radio digital pioneer Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI), with its President?s Award. ARRL President Kay Craigie, N3KN, presented the award plaque to Clark at a January 10 meeting of the Potomac Valley Radio Club in Blacksburg, Virginia. The plaque, which bears a likeness of ARRL Co-Founder Hiram Percy Maxim, W1AW, recognizes Clark?s 60 years of advancing Amateur Radio technology. Former AMSAT President and current AMSAT Director Bob McGwier, N4HY, stated directly. ?There would be no AMSAT to inspire all of this work without Tom Clark,? he said, noting that the organization was in serious trouble after the Phase 3A satellite launch failure. ?Tom took over as president of AMSAT, and he saved the organization and inspired all of us to look to the future and aim for the stars,? McGwier said. ?All that has followed, including PACSAT and microsats, CubeSats, AO-13, all the way through AO-85, are a direct result of Tom Clark saving AMSAT and providing it leadership as president from 1980 to 1987 and continuous leadership on the Board of Directors of AMSAT from 1976 until today.? McGwier said it was Clark who convinced him in 1985 that the future lay in digital signal processing ? DSP. ?We started the TAPR/AMSAT DSP project, and it was announced in 1987,? he said. ?We showed in our efforts that small stations with small antennas could bounce signals off the moon, and, using the power of DSP, we could see the signals in our computer displays.? McGwier said this led to the SDX, the Software Defined Transponder, included in ARISSat and in AMSAT?s Phase 3E. McGwier said Clark was an early supporter of women in science, too. ?Tom is now and always will be a leader, mentor ? the chief scientist for all of Amateur Radio,? he said. Clark is an adviser to Virginia Tech as adjunct professor of aerospace and ocean engineering and of electrical and computer Engineering. McGwier said Clark will play a crucial role in the Phase 4B geosynchronous satellite opportunity on the USAF Wide Field of View spacecraft, in which Virginia Tech is a partner. [ANS thanks ARRL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Spier, K6WAO, Appointed VP-Educational Relations AMSAT President Barry Baines, WD4ASW has accepted the resignation of E. Michael "EMike" McCardel, AA8EM, as VP-Educational Relations and appointed Joseph Spier, K6WAO, as his replacement. E. Michael McCardel, AA8EM, of Howard, OH was first appointed as an Associate Director for Educational Outreach under former VP Educational Relations Mark Hammond, N8MH, in 2011 and succeeded Mark as VP Educational Relations in September 2013. Among EMike's biggest successes were establishing a solid relation with ARRL's Education Division and working closely with ARISS as a member of its Executive Team. He was instrumental with keeping ARISS going and restructuring the ARISS program after funding was cut for Teaching From Space (TFS). At the time TFS was the primary NASA partner and education liaison for ARISS. TFS lead the school proposal and selection process in the USA. That process is now lead by ARRL and AMSAT. AMSAT VP Human Spaceflight Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, notes, "EMike has been invaluable to ARISS and I will miss his support. He and I worked behind the scenes to rescue ARISS through our discussions at the ISS Conference in 2014. And his rapport with ARRL is outstanding?something I will miss dearly. I thank EMike for making that all happen for ARISS." EMike also worked at establishing relations with various colleges and universities. He pushed to make aware the importance of AMSAT as an educational organization by emphasizing how education is part of AMSAT's earliest Mission Statements and Objectives and reminding us of all the educational programs and outreaches AMSAT has engaged in during its history. AMSAT President Barry Baines, WD4ASW notes, "EMike made a positive difference and helped set the course in a number of areas involving Educational Outreach, ARISS, and the overall direction of AMSAT. While I regret losing your considerable enthusiasm and talents, I understand the need to 'recalibrate' your priorities." EMike will complete his duties on January 31, citing time and commitments outside of AMSAT as his reason for stepping down. EMike will continue serving AMSAT as one of the rotating editors for the AMSAT News Service (ANS). With EMike's resignation, the appointment of Joseph Spier, K6WAO of Weimar, CA, as the new VP-Educational Relations is also announced. Joe came on board with the Educational Relation's team in 2011 serving as Associate Director then Director for Educational Outreach. EMike noted, "Joe and I started with Educational Relations at the same time and we have always had a great personal and working relationship. Joe is extremely enthusiastic and someone who thinks outside the box. Many have pointed out those similarities between us. However, Joe will bring a different dimension to the position because of his background in engineering. I support Joe as he takes over and am excited to see what new and exciting things are in store for AMSAT Education under his direction." ?I?m very pleased that Joe has agreed to become our next VP-Educational Relations?, notes AMSAT President Barry Baines, WD4ASW. ?Joe is passionate about integrating amateur radio into educational opportunities at all educational levels. His engineering background will help in interacting with university engineering departments encouraging a greater focus on educational impacts of amateur spacecraft, developing new ways of bringing science to the class room. He recognizes the importance of ARISS in reaching out to students based upon his personal involvement in managing an ARISS contact as part of the 2012 Pacificon Convention. His interaction with young people at the 2014 ARRL Centennial Convention where he encouraged their curiosity about AMSAT?s cubesat design by their holding the engineering mockup while visiting the AMSAT booth created many positive impressions for both the students and their parents. I look forward to working with Joe to further enhance our ability to touch students through amateur radio satellites and develop new ways to incorporate education into AMSAT?s mission.? E. Michael McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD V.P. for Educational Relations, AMSAT-NA [ANS thanks EMike, AA8EM, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 25 Year AMSAT Office Volunteer Bob Carpenter, W3OTC, SK Bob Carpenter, W3OTC died on January 8th. Since 1991 Bob had volunteered at the AMSAT Office on a weekly basis. He was our computer specialist and handled the donations for AMSAT. A memorial service will be held on January 23rd at 7:00PM a the Guild Memorial Chapel, Asbury Methodist Village, 211 Russell Ave, Gaithersburg MD. [ANS thanks Martha for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nepal students to speak to Tim Peake UK astronaut Tim Peake KG5BVI will be using amateur radio to talk to students at Brihaspati Vidhyasadan School (BVS) in Nepal on Wednesday, January 20. The Himalayan Times reports this is the first link up between a school in Nepal and the International Space Station (ISS). It will be a Telebridge contact via Tony Hutchison VK5ZAI in Australia and is scheduled for Wednesday, January 20 at 08:37:04 UT. The ISS should be in range of the Telebridge station for about 8 minutes. BVS is organizing an Exhibition during the week of the contact from January 19-23. Experts as well as knowledgeable students will be at hand to respond to queries of visiting students who will be able to get acquainted with amateur radio during the exhibition. The Nepal Amateur Radio Operators? Society is one of the organizations supporting the exhibition. Brihaspati Vidyasadan is a 32 year old High school, located in Kathmandu, Nepal. Brihaspati runs classes from nursery to 100 at secondary level and the 10+2 program in Science and Management at the higher secondary Level. Besides these Brihaspati also runs Diploma in Hospitality Managemant and Tourism in affiliation with Confederation of Tourism and Hospitality (CTH), UK. Brihaspati is known for its academic excellence. To date Brihaspati has produced over 2000 SLC graduates and over 600 +2 graduates who have achieved excellent academic achievements. Brihaspati has also been awarded the ?Best School in Nepal? in 2055BS. Brihaspati is also known for its co-curricular and extra-curricular activities including sports, debates and concerts. Over the years the school has achieved Inter-school successes in football (soccer), cricket and basketball at national levels. School has also successes in inter-school competitions like debate, elocution and concerts. For its academic, co-curricular and extra-curricular achievements Brihaspati has been placed among the Class A schools of Nepal by the Ministry of Education, Government of Nepal. Brihaspati staff and students have been known for their innovation in education. The school is reputed to be the first school in Nepal to introduce computer education. Brihaspati houses clubs like Lokopakar, which is a student club that looks into Humanitarian aid. Brihaspati students recently started ?gThink Ink?h, an activity designed using the principles of Extreme Design from Stanford for instilling critical thinking and problem solving skills in students. This program has gained attention of a lot of people in the academia at a very rapid pace. Brihaspati is located in a 25 acre land space at the heart of Kathmandu within the Balmandir compound. It has academic facility that is of very high standards. It houses the Free and Open Source Research Lab and Ham (amateur radio) facility that students and staff have access to. Recently during the earthquake of Nepal, one of the buildings of Brihaspati was used by ham radio operators from Nepal and India to coordinate search and reconciliation of families where over 500 families were reunited with their loved ones. Read The Himalayan Times story at https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/nepali-students-to-talk-to-astronaut-in- intl-space-station/ Brihaspati Vidhyasadan School http://www.bvs.edu.np/bvstalkstoiss/ https://www.facebook.com/bvsTalksToISS/ ARISS http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ESA Online Astronaut Selection Test The European Space Agency is offering a trial version of a test developed for future astronauts for you to try at home ? and by taking part you will help us select a new generation of astronauts. Read the ESA press release at: http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/Astronauts/Test_your_astrona ut_skills_and_help_ESA Access the astronaut selection test at: http://www.nlr.org/the-astronaut-selection-test/ [ANS thanks the European Space Agency for the above information] /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Lee McLamb, KU4OS ku4os at amsat dot org From martha at amsat.org Sun Jan 17 19:41:14 2016 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 14:41:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed Message-ID: The AMSAT Office will be closed on Monday, January 18th in observance of Martin Luther King Day. -- 73- Martha From skristof at etczone.com Sun Jan 17 19:57:09 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 14:57:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 Telemetry Message-ID: Has anyone else had trouble getting telemetry from AO-73 lately? I haven't heard it at all on the last couple of passes. Steve AI9IN From kc0bmf at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 02:37:28 2016 From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 20:37:28 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 Telemetry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steve I haven't had any problems. John W0JW On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:57 PM, wrote: > > > Has anyone else had trouble getting telemetry from AO-73 lately? I > haven't heard it at all on the last couple of passes. > > Steve AI9IN > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Jan 18 13:15:37 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:15:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal on 20 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:37 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK5ZAI. The contact should be audible over Australia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Brihaspati Vidyasadan is a 32 year old High school, located in Kathmandu, Nepal. Brihaspati runs classes from Nursery to 100 at Secondary level and the 10+2 program in Science and Management at the Higher Secondary Level. Besides these Brihaspati also runs Diploma in Hospitality Managemant and Tourism in affiliation with Confederation of Tourism and Hospitality (CTH), UK. Brihaspati is known for its Academic excellence. Till date Brihaspati has produced over 2000 SLC graduates and over 600 +2 Graduates who have achieved excellent academic achievements. Brihaspati has also been awarded the Best School in Nepal in 2055BS. Brihaspati is also known for its co-curricular and extra-curricular activities including sports, debates and concerts. Over the years the School has achieved Inter-school successes in Football (Soccer), cricket and Basketball at national levels. School has also successes in inter-school competitions like debate, elocution and concerts. For its academic, co-curricular and extra-curricular achievements Brihaspati has been placed among the Class A schools of Nepal by the Ministry of Education, Government of Nepal. Brihaspati staff and students have been known for their innovation in education. The school is reputed to be the first school in Nepal to introduce computer education. Brihaspati houses clubs like Lokopakar, which is a student club that looks into Humanitarian aid. Brihaspati students recently started ?gThink Ink?h, an activity designed using the principles of Extreme Design from Stanford for instilling Critical Thinking and Problem solving skills in students. This program has gained attention of a lot of people in the academia at a very rapid pace. Brihaspati is located in a 25 acre land space at the heart of Kathmandu within the Balmandir compound. It has academic facility that is of very high standards. It houses the Free and Open Source Research lab and HAM (Amateur) radio facility that students and staff have access to. Recently during the earthquake of Nepal, one of the buildings of Brihaspati was used by HAM radio operators from Nepal and India to coordinate search and reconciliation of families where over 500 families were reunited with their loved ones. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What is the most beautiful view from the space? 2. What are the most important things that ISS have known till now about space? 3. Many inventions were first used by astronauts which were later found to be commonly used by all e.g. Velcro. Can you tell us of any such tools or equipment that you are currently using that might be commonly used later by all? 4. What would happen if you sneeze without holding on to anything? 5. Can you see any signs of pollution from space? 6. What would you like to say to students like us? 7. How does a match burn in near zero gravity? Is it very different to that from what happens here? 8. Who or what inspired you to be an astronaut? What advice can you give to youths who want to be astronauts? 9. What are the detrimental effects on the body when living for a long time in a space lab? 10. Is it true that you use pencil to write in space? If not what do you use? 11. Has there been any case of sickness like common cold in the ISS? 12. Which subjects must we study to become astronauts? 13. I think half the crew members are from Russia. Do you have a language barrier problem when talking to each other? 14. Is it true that Americans use the foot/pound system of measurement, so is there any difficult in this regard? 15. In Kathmandu, our shirts become dirty within a few hours. How often do you have to clean your clothes? 16. Is there any research going on in ISS which can have impact in less developed countries like Nepal? Could you please briefly explain about it? 17. In what ways does zero gravity affect human physiology? How difficult is it to perform normal human activities that time? 18. How do you manage communication in the space? - 19. Some people believe that there is existence of aliens in the space. What are the possible evidences to prove their survival? 20. How aging is affected in the prevailing conditions of space? 21. Why is space black in the movies even though the sun is there? 22. Can we change the direction of the spaceship according to our wish? 23. What is the most difficult part of training to become an astronaut? 24. How did you feel seeing cities on earth, the bright lights at night and gray smudges in daytime from space? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD ABOUT ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From johnag9d at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 19:41:44 2016 From: johnag9d at gmail.com (John Spasojevich) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:41:44 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio for ARISS contact Wednesday Message-ID: Please join us in listening to the ISS contact with participants at the *Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal* on Wednesday 20 January. AOS is anticipated at 0837 UTC The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK5ZAI in South Australia. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Audio from this contact will be fed into the: EchoLink *AMSAT* (101377) Server IRLP Node 9010 Discovery Reflector Streaming Audio https://sites.google.com/site/arissaudio/ Audio on Echolink & web stream is generally transmitted around 20 minutes prior to the contact taking place so that you can hear some of the preparation that occurs. IRLP will begin just prior to the ground station call to the ISS. Please note that on Echolink and IRLP there are manual breaks, however connected repeaters may time out. ** Contact times are approximate. If the ISS executes a reboost or other manoeuvre, the AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) time may alter by a few minutes ** From onmontauk at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 21:21:17 2016 From: onmontauk at gmail.com (onmontauk at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:21:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise Message-ID: <9C2DC839-C877-450D-B90F-1A1348851B52@gmail.com> Booked my ticket today. I paid extra for a large balcony on the top level so we can work the sats from there. What meal plan did most people pick? Steve Kd2cjw Sent from my iPhone From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Jan 18 21:34:37 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 & AO-85? References: <898803650.6716724.1453152877348.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <898803650.6716724.1453152877348.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Group, I have SatPC32 Version 12.8c and have just added AO-85 tomy Selected List. However, the screen does not show the Uplinkand Downlink Frequencies in the top-middle of the Display Mapas it does with the other Satellites I've Selected. I've had to searchfor the correct frequencies and adjust for Doppler manually. Anyone have a suggestion for getting SatPC32 to display the Freq's? TNX/73, ? ?Bob ?K8BL ? (EN91 at the moment) From kb1pvh at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 21:58:01 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:58:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 & AO-85? In-Reply-To: <898803650.6716724.1453152877348.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <898803650.6716724.1453152877348.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <898803650.6716724.1453152877348.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bob, Make sure the satellite name in your Doppler.SQF is identical to what is listed in the Keps. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From fwinder at fuse.net Mon Jan 18 22:09:44 2016 From: fwinder at fuse.net (Farrell Winder) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:09:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Teletek DXP-U150 UHF Aamp Message-ID: <746421D372914204A6463EC500DC437F@FarrellPC> Still looking to purchase Teletek DXP-U150 UHF Amp good working order. Please reply off line. Thanks, Farrell Winder, W8ZCF From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Jan 18 23:09:47 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 23:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 & AO-85? In-Reply-To: <898803650.6716724.1453152877348.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <898803650.6716724.1453152877348.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <898803650.6716724.1453152877348.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1977970608.1887730.1453158587616.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> SAT Group, OK, got it fixed with the great help from the SAT Community!!! Thanks to N8RO + WA4NVM, WC7V, NK1N, K4FEG, KB1PVH!!! It's a blessing to have such helpful folks at the ready to help when needed!! TNX/73, ? ?Bob K8BL From: R.T.Liddy To: AMSAT BB ; Starcom-BB Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 4:34 PM Subject: SatPC32 & AO-85? Group, I have SatPC32 Version 12.8c and have just added AO-85 tomy Selected List. However, the screen does not show the Uplinkand Downlink Frequencies in the top-middle of the Display Mapas it does with the other Satellites I've Selected. I've had to searchfor the correct frequencies and adjust for Doppler manually. Anyone have a suggestion for getting SatPC32 to display the Freq's? TNX/73, ? ?Bob ?K8BL ? (EN91 at the moment) From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Jan 18 23:44:47 2016 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 23:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] [Starcom-bb] SatPC32 & AO-85? In-Reply-To: <15257072b29-720c-167d6@webprd-m104.mail.aol.com> References: <15257072b29-720c-167d6@webprd-m104.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <297655869.7612306.1453160687619.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Warren, Here's what worked for me. (There were other suggestions, but I stopped whenI tried this and figured I'd stop while I was ahead and didn't mess anything else up!) Run SatPC32Click of the "?" (It's the Help Dropdown)Bring your cursor down to Auxiliary Files, then over to Doppler.SQFClick on Doppler.SQF and a Notepad File will come up (unless you're defaulted to some other text editor)Scroll down to the end of the Satellite Listing just before the line beginning with a ";"Add a blank lineType in the appropriate Satellite info per the instructions provided in the lines beginning with the ";"'s-OR- In the case of AO85, you can paste in the following line:??AO-85,145978.0,435175.0,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,FM VoiceBe sure NOT to leave a blank line in the file!Save the edited Doppler.SQF file and close NotepadClose SatPC32 and Re-Start it. The Freq Info will be at the top of the Screen where it belongs. If you need to do this for other Satellites, follow the instructions at the bottom of the Doppler.SQF File. GL/73, ? ? ?Bob K8BL ? ? ? ?(AMSAT # 6593, since 1979) P.S. If the above formatting is hosed up, it happens in the AMSAT BBS and I don't know why. I typed it correctly.? ? ? For whatever reason, the Starcom-bb BBS passes my e-mails through correctly as typed. From: "warmac51 at aim.com" To: k8bl at ameritech.net; amsat-bb at amsat.org; starcom-bb at star-com.net Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Starcom-bb] SatPC32 & AO-85? How did you all do it. Funcube, AO-85 and the EW's and Hope have no frequencies. Did you edit the KEPS ? warmac51 at aim.com Warren McCluerAI4AK -----Original Message----- From: R.T.Liddy To: AMSAT BB ; Starcom-BB Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [Starcom-bb] SatPC32 & AO-85? SAT Group, OK, got it fixed with the great help from the SAT Community!!! Thanks to N8RO + WA4NVM, WC7V, NK1N, K4FEG, KB1PVH!!! It's a blessing to have such helpful folks at the ready to help when needed!! TNX/73, ? ?Bob K8BL From: R.T.Liddy To: AMSAT BB ; Starcom-BB Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 4:34 PM Subject: SatPC32 & AO-85? Group, I have SatPC32 Version 12.8c and have just added AO-85 tomy Selected List. However, the screen does not show the Uplinkand Downlink Frequencies in the top-middle of the Display Mapas it does with the other Satellites I've Selected. I've had to searchfor the correct frequencies and adjust for Doppler manually. Anyone have a suggestion for getting SatPC32 to display the Freq's? TNX/73, ? ?Bob ?K8BL ? (EN91 at the moment) _______________________________________________Starcom-bb bulletin boardStarcom-bb at star-com.nethttp://lists.star-com.net/listinfo/starcom-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Tue Jan 19 00:11:51 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:11:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT EV's to Dayton? Message-ID: Will there be anyone else driving an EV to Dayton? Maybe we can get a special parking/show space? So far, I know of a Tesla coming from Alabama... Bob, WB4APR From chad.kg0mw at gmail.com Tue Jan 19 02:43:25 2016 From: chad.kg0mw at gmail.com (Chad Phillips) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 20:43:25 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with Amsat! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Clint. Sorry but I respectfully don't agree with your cruise opinion. I have not been an AMSAT member for more than 15 years. I have never been to a symposium. However we just booked the trip. We are so excited that this years event will be on a ship. In fact my wife even booked it before I got home from work today. One of our business vendors held a conference on a similar ship. Everyone who attended loved it. Obviously since I have been out of the loop for so many years, I don't know about the organizations financial status. Wether they are loaded or not, I don't see the cruise effecting that. In my opinion wether or not there is the same size of crowd, it will be a great experience that everyone will enjoy. In this case they just gained one person who hadn't been there before. Have a great night, Chad/kg0mw On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Clint Bradford wrote: > Now THERE'S a guaranteed manner in which to increase > attendance: add a cruise cost to air fare. > > You gotta be kidding. > > This makes your online pleas for money raising on behalf of AMSAT-NA > for satellite projects seem trivial and unnecessary: AMSAT must > be loaded if they think this is going to enhance their stature and > bank account. > > This makes me wonder what the true desire is of AMSAT-NA. If it > is, indeed, to "disseminate info about and build birds," then the > best method available is remote, live, videocasts from presenters. > That would cost the presenter NOTHING in transportation costs. > It would involve EVERY CONTINENT on the planet. And it would > allow the largest possible audiences to "attend." Minimal charge > for password access to whatever session one wanted to see ... or > a conference package fee ... allow that access to be shown to a > classroom or audience ... those fees are TOTAL PROFIT to AMSAT > (unless honorariums are paid to some presenters). > > Overhead costs to AMSAT-NA? Virtually nothing. Largest attendance > ever of any AMSAT show in history? Guaranteed. > > Unless the same minds who thought up "let's take a cruise" are in charge > of it ... only then could someone mess up so simple a concept to bring > educational sessions to the largest audience. > > Clint Bradford > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From RandyW4412 at aol.com Tue Jan 19 03:35:27 2016 From: RandyW4412 at aol.com (RandyW4412 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:35:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] WB4LHD Cruise with the Wilder's Message-ID: Captain JoAnn Wilder KB4GGC and myself First Mate Randy Wilder WB4LHD. Likewise what a perfect fit for the family. She can sun while I talk radio. We booked it the same day it was announced. I go back to Oscar 6 see everyone soon. Less than ten months away. 73 de WB4LHD From electricity440 at gmail.com Tue Jan 19 18:21:10 2016 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:21:10 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone want to Net control the Colorado Amsat net this Thursday? Message-ID: I can't make it to perform net control this Thursday night for the Colorado Amateur Satellite net. If anybody wants to do this, let me know: We are on IRLP, EchoLink, and AllStar 73 Skyler KD0WHB -- Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com From electricity440 at gmail.com Tue Jan 19 18:21:33 2016 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:21:33 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone want to Net control the Colorado Amsat net this Thursday? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The net runs at 7:00PM mountain time. On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Skyler F wrote: > I can't make it to perform net control this Thursday night for the > Colorado Amateur Satellite net. > > If anybody wants to do this, let me know: > > We are on IRLP, EchoLink, and AllStar > > 73 > Skyler KD0WHB > -- > Skyler Fennell > amsatnet.info > KD?WHB > electricity440 at gmail.com > -- Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com From pconver at gmail.com Tue Jan 19 19:05:22 2016 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:05:22 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 & AO-85 Keps Orbit # incorrect Message-ID: For NO-84 and AO-85 orbit Number seems returned to the past. Previous orbits where around 1584, seems that new keps at http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all They shows orbits #27 #28 on last digits before checksum on Line 2. Orbit # is used for QSOs and awards validation from http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm 73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso From k7trkradio at charter.net Wed Jan 20 02:12:31 2016 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:12:31 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] test Message-ID: <000601d15328$0535e370$0fa1aa50$@charter.net> Test K7TRK From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Wed Jan 20 03:30:07 2016 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:30:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 & AO-85 Keps Orbit # incorrect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <569EFF3F.1030502@alum.wpi.edu> On 1/19/2016 2:05 PM, Pedro Converso wrote: > For NO-84 and AO-85 orbit Number seems returned to the past. > > Pedro, Thank you for this report. We will look into our systems to determine how to correct this problem. -Joe Fitzgerald AMSAT Electronic Services. From AJ9N at aol.com Wed Jan 20 05:57:51 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 00:57:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-20 06:00 UTC Message-ID: Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-20 06:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-01-20 08:37:04 UTC 26 deg PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand, direct via E29AJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI (***) Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-01-30 11:06:23 UTC 63 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 114 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-20 06:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1018. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 983. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-15 08:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From wa7eth at frontier.com Wed Jan 20 09:23:41 2016 From: wa7eth at frontier.com (wa7eth at frontier.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 09:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcome FO-29 pass References: <509586475.6337813.1453281821806.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <509586475.6337813.1453281821806.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I will be on the upcoming FO-29 pass over the U.S. at approx 0955Z. ?Hope there are some late nite/early morning folks around..73'..Ed ?WA7ETH ?CN88 From paul at paultelco.com Wed Jan 20 10:02:08 2016 From: paul at paultelco.com (Paul Telco) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:02:08 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT elset help request. Message-ID: <00bc01d15369$a006b280$e0141780$@paultelco.com> Hi, Can anyone help me to find a reliable source of tle Keps for PSAT please? I'm trying to track it for APRS and maybe a bit of PSK31 later. For some reason PSAT (Parkinsonsat NORAD #40654) is not published in any of the normal resources that I use. Space-Track lists it but doesn't have Keps for it. I think that is why Celestrak etc doesn't have it at all. Interestingly, Heavens-Above does have an old elset which is about a week old and http://www.n2yo.com has it from December 2015. I haven't had this sort of problem before. Normally If it's up there then it is listed in any number of different places and formats. With only two or three APRS Sats available I thought there would be a ton of interest in this one but it is tricky to find! Many thanks for your help, Paul From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jan 20 13:07:23 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 08:07:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT elset help request. In-Reply-To: <00bc01d15369$a006b280$e0141780$@paultelco.com> References: <00bc01d15369$a006b280$e0141780$@paultelco.com> Message-ID: AMSAT publishes them. The currently available keps are a week old. Those should be adequate. They are generally updated once a week or so. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt NO-83, NO-84, and AO-85 were all launched as secondary payloads on classified missions, so Space Track does not publish keps (and since CelesTrak uses Space Track as its source, it won't have them either). 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Paul Telco wrote: > Hi, > > > > Can anyone help me to find a reliable source of tle Keps for PSAT please? > I'm trying to track it for APRS and maybe a bit of PSK31 later. > > > > For some reason PSAT (Parkinsonsat NORAD #40654) is not published in any of > the normal resources that I use. > > Space-Track lists it but doesn't have Keps for it. I think that is why > Celestrak etc doesn't have it at all. > > Interestingly, Heavens-Above does have an old elset which is about a week > old and http://www.n2yo.com has it from December 2015. > > I haven't had this sort of problem before. Normally If it's up there then it > is listed in any number of different places and formats. With only two or > three APRS Sats available I thought there would be a ton of interest in this > one but it is tricky to find! > > Many thanks for your help, > > Paul > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Wed Jan 20 15:19:46 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:19:46 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2C active? Message-ID: <19420839.1453303186800.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >From some posts to the AMSAT status page http://amsat.org/status/ it looks like the transponder of XW-2C is on now. I'm curious to hear any reports of those that hear or try it. Uplink is 435.150-435.170 Downlink is 145.795-145.815 CW Beacon is 145.790 Digital GMSK downlink is 145.770 73, Drew KO4MA From terrysurface1 at comcast.net Wed Jan 20 15:19:40 2016 From: terrysurface1 at comcast.net (Terry Surface) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:19:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 problem developed. Message-ID: <20160120151933.643EF8114@lansing182.amsat.org> Morning. After working fine for several months, my Satpc32 program began giving me this error, no source file found for group standard, when I open the program. I tried to follow the instructions for finding it, but I don?t understand what I need to do. Can anyone refer or explane,what I need to do? Thanks, and enjoy the day. Terry N4IQV.EM96 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From bombeiro.gustavo at gmail.com Wed Jan 20 15:32:20 2016 From: bombeiro.gustavo at gmail.com (Gustavo Nicolau) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:32:20 -0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 and FO-29 Message-ID: Hi to all, gud condictions today, look to SA. 73 de PT9BM. GH40. From peter at m3php.com Wed Jan 20 16:08:50 2016 From: peter at m3php.com (Peter Goodhall) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 16:08:50 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2C active? In-Reply-To: <19420839.1453303186800.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <19420839.1453303186800.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Andrew, Appears to be working, just worked 4Z5CP although quite difficult as he was reporting QRM his side. Satellite however sounds good similar to XW-2A signal wise. 73, Pete, 2E0SQL On 20 January 2016 at 15:19, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > > From some posts to the AMSAT status page http://amsat.org/status/ it looks like the transponder of XW-2C is on now. I'm curious to hear any reports of those that hear or try it. > > Uplink is 435.150-435.170 > Downlink is 145.795-145.815 > CW Beacon is 145.790 > Digital GMSK downlink is 145.770 > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Wed Jan 20 18:30:08 2016 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 19:30:08 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 problem developed. In-Reply-To: <20160120151933.643EF8114@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20160120151933.643EF8114@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: <569FD230.6080406@t-online.de> Terry, when you get the error message click on OK in the message. The Windows "Open" dialog window will be displayed and display the files of the sub folder "Kepler" (by default). If not, navigate to that folder. The path will usually be : C:\Users\User name\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32\Kepler (User name will probably be your name). Open a file in the sub folder "Kepler", for example "nasa.all" or "amateur.txt". The program should now start to track a satellite. Open menu "Satellites" and click "OK". That will save the path and filename of the chosen file. 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 20.01.2016 um 16:19 schrieb Terry Surface: > Morning. After working fine for several months, my Satpc32 program began giving me this error, no source file found for group standard, when I open the program. I tried to follow the instructions for finding it, but I don?t understand what I need to do. Can anyone refer or explane,what I need to do? Thanks, and enjoy the day. > Terry > N4IQV.EM96 > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc2 at gmail.com Wed Jan 20 18:33:36 2016 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:33:36 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Cushcraft A270-10S dualband yagi Message-ID: I have for sale a Cushcraft A270-10S dualband beam. This is the model with 5 elements on each band on a 6 foot boom. It can be mounted horizontal or vertical in terms of polarization. Small enough to take and hold on mobile grid activations on the satellites. I have used it on both the FM satellites and the linear ones with good results. It is about months old and works fine. Sells new for $160, I am asking $125 shipped and can take paypal/check/MO. I also have a 2m/70cm diplexer with leads and PL259 connectors for a little more if needed. 73 John AF5CC From lu2dpw at yahoo.com.ar Wed Jan 20 22:15:59 2016 From: lu2dpw at yahoo.com.ar (LU2DPW Juan Carlos) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2-C Active References: <1370097152.7952553.1453328159300.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1370097152.7952553.1453328159300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi to all This satellite transponer in active, nice SSB QSO with Miguel LU3EMB, strong signal. 73 de Juan LU2DPW - Mercedes (BsAs) - GF05gi From martha at amsat.org Wed Jan 20 22:30:54 2016 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:30:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Memorial Service for W3OTC Message-ID: The memorial service for W3OTC has been postponed for 1 week due to weather. It will take place at 7:00 PM on Saturday, January30th at the chapel of Asbury Methodist Village in Gaithersburg MD -- 73- Martha From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Wed Jan 20 23:31:39 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 18:31:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2-C Active In-Reply-To: <1370097152.7952553.1453328159300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1370097152.7952553.1453328159300.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1370097152.7952553.1453328159300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <012201d153da$b6a86440$23f92cc0$@com> Sounded great on a 12 degree pass here in Florida. I worked AC0RA and KE8AKW with two 817s and an Arrow from the hood of my truck stopped on the way home from work. I also heard several other stations. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of LU2DPW Juan Carlos Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 5:16 PM To: AMSAT BB; Satdx-bb Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2-C Active Hi to all This satellite transponer in active, nice SSB QSO with Miguel LU3EMB, strong signal. 73 de Juan LU2DPW - Mercedes (BsAs) - GF05gi _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jan 20 23:58:54 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 18:58:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2-C Active In-Reply-To: <012201d153da$b6a86440$23f92cc0$@com> References: <1370097152.7952553.1453328159300.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1370097152.7952553.1453328159300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <012201d153da$b6a86440$23f92cc0$@com> Message-ID: Just worked AC0RA and AA5PK on a 13 degree pass. Signals seemed weaker than the others to me, but I was squeezed in between two massive birdies from electronics in my apartment building. This one won't be very workable from my balcony. I'll have to go outside. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > Sounded great on a 12 degree pass here in Florida. I worked AC0RA and KE8AKW > with two 817s and an Arrow from the hood of my truck stopped on the way home > from work. I also heard several other stations. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of LU2DPW Juan > Carlos > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 5:16 PM > To: AMSAT BB; Satdx-bb > Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2-C Active > > Hi to all > This satellite transponer in active, nice SSB QSO with Miguel LU3EMB, strong > signal. > 73 de Juan LU2DPW - Mercedes (BsAs) - GF05gi > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From AJ9N at aol.com Thu Jan 21 00:19:19 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 19:19:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-20 23:30 UTC Message-ID: Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-20 23:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact was successful: Wed 2016-01-20 08:37:04 UTC 26 deg (***) PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand, direct via E29AJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI (***) Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-01-30 11:06:23 UTC 63 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 115 (***) **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-20 23:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1019. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 984. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-20 23:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From jefforybroughton at gmail.com Thu Jan 21 01:49:13 2016 From: jefforybroughton at gmail.com (jeffory broughton) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:49:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 RECEIVER DRIFT Message-ID: The AO-73 satellite is one of my favorite .It has a phenomenal transmitter and receiver.I checked the amount of drift a year ago and again this evening. It is exactly the same, 200 hz per 30 Seconds or 400 per min.I had been correcting during a qso with the cat box open ,clicking away with my mouse.I just discovered that the plus and minus buttons in my keyboard are actually a XIT control ! I watch the clock in the upper right corner of satpc32 and tap away. I am able to stay right on during the entire pass. Hope this helps others. I know some folks avoid this bird because until you figure this out it can be tough to work.WB8RJY JEFF jeff broughton From g0mrf at aol.com Thu Jan 21 08:24:38 2016 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 03:24:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 RECEIVER DRIFT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15263490e97-60c8-2cba@webprd-m31.mail.aol.com> Hi Jeff Thanks for that report. I am aware that the command stations use one of the internal temperature sensors to get the uplink 'in the right place' but I didn't know it was so repeatable. The internal temp appears to reach a minimum about 10 minutes after it exits eclipse, so presumably the drift slows at that point then heads in the opposite direction. Still a bit of a luddite here and just tune until I hear my downlink ! Best wishes David G0MRF -----Original Message----- From: jeffory broughton To: amsat-bb Sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 1:49 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 RECEIVER DRIFT The AO-73 satellite is one of my favorite .It has a phenomenal transmitter and receiver.I checked the amount of drift a year ago and again this evening. It is exactly the same, 200 hz per 30 Seconds or 400 per min.I had been correcting during a qso with the cat box open ,clicking away with my mouse.I just discovered that the plus and minus buttons in my keyboard are actually a XIT control ! I watch the clock in the upper right corner of satpc32 and tap away. I am able to stay right on during the entire pass. Hope this helps others. I know some folks avoid this bird because until you figure this out it can be tough to work.WB8RJY JEFF jeff broughton _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Thu Jan 21 17:55:07 2016 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:55:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D Message-ID: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what do you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? Steve AI9IN From whattwood at gmail.com Thu Jan 21 18:06:22 2016 From: whattwood at gmail.com (Bill Attwood) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:06:22 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> Message-ID: <56A11E1E.9080607@gmail.com> I use the 857 installed in my truck to work sats, full duplex with SDRplay for receive. It works quite well and should be fully automated with CAT control if I could get the software to play nice once and for all... No reason you couldn't take the 857 portable if you have a good power source - it even has a nice flip down stand to elevate the front when you put it on a flat surface. Go for it! Cheers, Bill VE6WK On 2016-01-21 10:55 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what do > you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? > > Steve AI9IN > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From w5pfg at amsat.org Thu Jan 21 18:34:57 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:34:57 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> Message-ID: <56A124D1.1010201@amsat.org> When I first made the move from FM to SSB satellites, I was using just an FT-100D (predecessor to FT-857D.) While it is semi-duplex by itself, as VE6WK suggested you can use it with a second receiver for full-duplex. For several months, I experimented with an FT-857D as my transmitter and FUNcube Dongle Pro+ as my receiver. It made for a very nice "poor man's Flex" station. The easiest bird to work with a single FT-857D is probably FO-29. You can setup on a fixed transmit/uplink frequency, and tune the downlink to compensate for Doppler shift. I've made many contacts this way in a pinch. My video for the FT-817 on YouTube can be carried out very similarly using an FT-857D: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vke3pWkKULU 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/21/2016 11:55, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what do > you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? > > Steve AI9IN > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From framirezferrer at gmail.com Thu Jan 21 21:16:08 2016 From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 14:16:08 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] TG9AMD tonight on SO-50 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good afternoon! Dani, TG9AMD, will work SO-50 from EK44, Guatemala City starting at 0151 utc (2016-01-22). At that time, SO-50 will be over southern Texas and the footprint shall include most of the continental United States. Dani uses a handheld and Arrow antenna and puts out a nice signal into the bird. He plans to operate from EK34 in the future, so stay tuned! 73 Fernando, NP4JV From Mat_62 at charter.net Thu Jan 21 21:27:53 2016 From: Mat_62 at charter.net (Michael) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:27:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <56A124D1.1010201@amsat.org> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <56A124D1.1010201@amsat.org> Message-ID: <56A14D59.5040908@charter.net> This is exactly the idea I intend to use. I've got and FT-991 and Funcube Dongle Pro. This will be a base station from indoors. I just have to iron out some kinks in my antennas. 73, Michael W4HIJ On 1/21/2016 1:34 PM, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > When I first made the move from FM to SSB satellites, I was using just > an FT-100D (predecessor to FT-857D.) While it is semi-duplex by > itself, as VE6WK suggested you can use it with a second receiver for > full-duplex. For several months, I experimented with an FT-857D as my > transmitter and FUNcube Dongle Pro+ as my receiver. It made for a very > nice "poor man's Flex" station. > > The easiest bird to work with a single FT-857D is probably FO-29. You > can setup on a fixed transmit/uplink frequency, and tune the downlink > to compensate for Doppler shift. I've made many contacts this way in a > pinch. My video for the FT-817 on YouTube can be carried out very > similarly using an FT-857D: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vke3pWkKULU > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > On 1/21/2016 11:55, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >> >> >> Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what do >> you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? >> >> Steve AI9IN >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Thu Jan 21 22:13:17 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS)) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 07:13:17 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> Message-ID: <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:55:07 -0500, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what do > you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? This is probably overkill, but I've got two of 'em, one each for up and down. One sitting on top of the other makes for a nice compact setup that's easy to read. I took a piece of advice from KB5WIA, who does it with two FT817's in a similar fashion (http://kb5wia.blogspot.jp/2010/10/satellite-portable-station.html), and change the color of the display on one of the rigs so I can tell them apart. I also have an adapter for my Heil Proset 6 headset, so I have the headphone out jack coming out of one rig, and the mic/PTT going into the other with a hand switch. So all I have to do is walk around the back of my truck with a headset on, aiming an antenna on a tripod at the sky, with one hand gripping what looks like a detonator. You'll have to excuse me, the cops are here. -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C From normanlizeth at gmail.com Thu Jan 21 23:24:15 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:24:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: It gets far more interesting when there is a language barrier. One of these days I'll tell the "Documentos" story. Use an 857d and an IC-7000 in a Pelican case for moderate worldwide indestructibility. The Icom was chosen because of it's dual ADI DSP units working at IF. Power hog on standby. 2x what the Yaesu is. Wanted the flexibility of having an analog front end, as well, though. Each has it's strong points. Batteries are an easy commodity in the rest of the world. Most of the passes in the lands of la-la use the automobile as the power source. Surplus HP server supplies are useful and light. The bay your friend.. On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:55:07 -0500, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > >> Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what do >> you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? > > This is probably overkill, but I've got two of 'em, one each for up and > down. One sitting on top of the other makes for a nice compact setup > that's easy to read. I took a piece of advice from KB5WIA, who does it > with two FT817's in a similar fashion > (http://kb5wia.blogspot.jp/2010/10/satellite-portable-station.html), and > change the color of the display on one of the rigs so I can tell them > apart. > > I also have an adapter for my Heil Proset 6 headset, so I have the > headphone out jack coming out of one rig, and the mic/PTT going into the > other with a hand switch. So all I have to do is walk around the back of > my truck with a headset on, aiming an antenna on a tripod at the sky, > with one hand gripping what looks like a detonator. You'll have to > excuse me, the cops are here. > > -- > J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B > the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp > http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ > http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS > Twitter: @Minus2_C > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mr.soup12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 21 23:06:17 2016 From: mr.soup12 at gmail.com (Oliver) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:06:17 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icon ID-51A for satellite Message-ID: Considering purchasing an icom. Can anyone comment on using the 51A vs a baofeng? Particularly how sensitivity compares. Thanks and 73 KD9CFO From WB4SON at gmail.com Thu Jan 21 23:56:42 2016 From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:56:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icon ID-51A for satellite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Oliver, An optimal choice would be a full-duplex HT, one that can receive on one band and transmit on another at the same time. The 51A won't do that. Check out this discussion: http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/trying-to-get-answers-on-full-duplex-ht-for-satellite.484629/ And specific to the 51A: http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/icom-id-51a.441780/ The Kenwood TH-D72A supports full duplex (also called cross-band repeat), for example. >From work-sat.com: "Although it is preferable to work the FM sats in full-duplex mode (where you can hear the downlink as you key your mic), only one currently-manufactured HT does that well in our VHF/UHF mode - the Kenwood TH-D72a. " 73, Bob, WB4SON On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Oliver wrote: > Considering purchasing an icom. Can anyone comment on using the 51A vs a > baofeng? Particularly how sensitivity compares. > > Thanks and 73 > KD9CFO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From framirezferrer at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 00:00:39 2016 From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:00:39 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icon ID-51A for satellite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Or, he can use the ID51A to receive and the Baofeng to transmit. He can use an Arrow with the diplexer or buy a Comet one. Cheaper solution than the Kenwood HT. 73 Fernando, NP4JV On Jan 21, 2016 4:56 PM, "Bob" wrote: > Hi Oliver, > > An optimal choice would be a full-duplex HT, one that can receive on one > band and transmit on another at the same time. The 51A won't do that. > > Check out this discussion: > > http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/trying-to-get-answers-on-full-duplex-ht-for-satellite.484629/ > > And specific to the 51A: > http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/icom-id-51a.441780/ > > The Kenwood TH-D72A supports full duplex (also called cross-band repeat), > for example. > > From work-sat.com: "Although it is preferable to work the FM sats in > full-duplex mode (where you can hear the downlink as you key your mic), > only one currently-manufactured HT does that well in our VHF/UHF mode > - the Kenwood > TH-D72a. " > > 73, Bob, WB4SON > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Oliver wrote: > > > Considering purchasing an icom. Can anyone comment on using the 51A vs a > > baofeng? Particularly how sensitivity compares. > > > > Thanks and 73 > > KD9CFO > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bryan at kl7cn.net Fri Jan 22 00:38:33 2016 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:38:33 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icon ID-51A for satellite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06C883C7-308F-47FC-8DAF-853CC5C21092@kl7cn.net> You can also use two cable runs from the Arrow to the radios -- one for UHF, the other for VHF; no diplexer needed then. That's what I do. -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 On Jan 21, 2016, at 16:00, Fernando Ramirez wrote: Or, he can use the ID51A to receive and the Baofeng to transmit. He can use an Arrow with the diplexer or buy a Comet one. Cheaper solution than the Kenwood HT. 73 Fernando, NP4JV On Jan 21, 2016 4:56 PM, "Bob" wrote: > Hi Oliver, > > An optimal choice would be a full-duplex HT, one that can receive on one > band and transmit on another at the same time. The 51A won't do that. > > Check out this discussion: > > http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/trying-to-get-answers-on-full-duplex-ht-for-satellite.484629/ > > And specific to the 51A: > http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/icom-id-51a.441780/ > > The Kenwood TH-D72A supports full duplex (also called cross-band repeat), > for example. > > From work-sat.com: "Although it is preferable to work the FM sats in > full-duplex mode (where you can hear the downlink as you key your mic), > only one currently-manufactured HT does that well in our VHF/UHF mode > - the Kenwood > TH-D72a. " > > 73, Bob, WB4SON > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Oliver wrote: > >> Considering purchasing an icom. Can anyone comment on using the 51A vs a >> baofeng? Particularly how sensitivity compares. >> >> Thanks and 73 >> KD9CFO >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Fri Jan 22 00:41:34 2016 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes (CO7WT)) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 19:41:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icon ID-51A for satellite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56A17ABE.7050409@frcuba.co.cu> Hi, I don't recommend the Baofengs for TX side in 2m, many of them has a notable spectral "impurity" with very strong 3rd harmonic on 70cm, see this: https://sites.google.com/site/k6bezprojects/ht-harmonic-output-testing 73. El 21/01/16 a las 19:00, Fernando Ramirez escribi?: > Or, he can use the ID51A to receive and the Baofeng to transmit. He can use > an Arrow with the diplexer or buy a Comet one. > > Cheaper solution than the Kenwood HT. > > 73 > Fernando, NP4JV > On Jan 21, 2016 4:56 PM, "Bob" wrote: > >> Hi Oliver, >> >> An optimal choice would be a full-duplex HT, one that can receive on one >> band and transmit on another at the same time. The 51A won't do that. >> >> Check out this discussion: >> >> http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/trying-to-get-answers-on-full-duplex-ht-for-satellite.484629/ >> >> And specific to the 51A: >> http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/icom-id-51a.441780/ >> >> The Kenwood TH-D72A supports full duplex (also called cross-band repeat), >> for example. >> >> From work-sat.com: "Although it is preferable to work the FM sats in >> full-duplex mode (where you can hear the downlink as you key your mic), >> only one currently-manufactured HT does that well in our VHF/UHF mode >> - the Kenwood >> TH-D72a. " >> >> 73, Bob, WB4SON >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Oliver wrote: >> >>> Considering purchasing an icom. Can anyone comment on using the 51A vs a >>> baofeng? Particularly how sensitivity compares. >>> >>> Thanks and 73 >>> KD9CFO >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n4ufo at yahoo.com Fri Jan 22 01:24:22 2016 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Icon ID-51A for satellite References: <1563289802.9567731.1453425862769.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1563289802.9567731.1453425862769.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I have to agree with you, Pavel... I actually tried using two Baofengs, a UV-3R+ and a UV-5R, with an Arrow antenna to run full duplex on SO-50. Did not matter the configuration, I experienced terrible desense on receive. I abandoned trying to operate with two HTs and went back to one HT and semi-duplex operations. 73, Kevin N4UFO ---------------------Hi, I don't recommend the Baofengs for TX side in 2m, many of them has a notable spectral "impurity" with very strong 3rd harmonic on 70cm, see this:? From art.ballentine at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 07:28:53 2016 From: art.ballentine at gmail.com (Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:28:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: Hi All, I just wanted to say thank you. I was also wondering the same thing and to see that it works well using an SDR for receive is very reassuring. Tax refund going to an SDR now. Thanks again! 73 Frank B kb1qzh FN31fa On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Norm n3ykf wrote: > It gets far more interesting when there is a language barrier. One of > these days I'll tell the "Documentos" story. > > Use an 857d and an IC-7000 in a Pelican case for moderate worldwide > indestructibility. The Icom was chosen because of it's dual ADI DSP > units working at IF. Power hog on standby. 2x what the Yaesu is. > Wanted the flexibility of having an analog front end, as well, though. > Each has it's strong points. > > Batteries are an easy commodity in the rest of the world. Most of the > passes in the lands of la-la use the automobile as the power source. > Surplus HP server supplies are useful and light. The bay your friend.. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) > wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:55:07 -0500, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > >> Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what do > >> you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? > > > > This is probably overkill, but I've got two of 'em, one each for up and > > down. One sitting on top of the other makes for a nice compact setup > > that's easy to read. I took a piece of advice from KB5WIA, who does it > > with two FT817's in a similar fashion > > (http://kb5wia.blogspot.jp/2010/10/satellite-portable-station.html), and > > change the color of the display on one of the rigs so I can tell them > > apart. > > > > I also have an adapter for my Heil Proset 6 headset, so I have the > > headphone out jack coming out of one rig, and the mic/PTT going into the > > other with a hand switch. So all I have to do is walk around the back of > > my truck with a headset on, aiming an antenna on a tripod at the sky, > > with one hand gripping what looks like a detonator. You'll have to > > excuse me, the cops are here. > > > > -- > > J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B > > the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ > > http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS > > Twitter: @Minus2_C > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From paul at paultelco.com Fri Jan 22 10:07:14 2016 From: paul at paultelco.com (Paul Telco) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:07:14 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT elset help request. In-Reply-To: References: <00bc01d15369$a006b280$e0141780$@paultelco.com> Message-ID: <027501d154fc$ab568180$02038480$@paultelco.com> Thanks Paul, I've changed it so that my tracking software automatically downloads nasabare.txt from Amsat. All working nicely now. Paul M1PWT -----Original Message----- From: prstoetzer at gmail.com [mailto:prstoetzer at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer Sent: 20 January 2016 13:07 To: Paul Telco Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT elset help request. AMSAT publishes them. The currently available keps are a week old. Those should be adequate. They are generally updated once a week or so. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt NO-83, NO-84, and AO-85 were all launched as secondary payloads on classified missions, so Space Track does not publish keps (and since CelesTrak uses Space Track as its source, it won't have them either). 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Paul Telco wrote: > Hi, > > > > Can anyone help me to find a reliable source of tle Keps for PSAT please? > I'm trying to track it for APRS and maybe a bit of PSK31 later. > > > > For some reason PSAT (Parkinsonsat NORAD #40654) is not published in any of > the normal resources that I use. > > Space-Track lists it but doesn't have Keps for it. I think that is why > Celestrak etc doesn't have it at all. > > Interestingly, Heavens-Above does have an old elset which is about a week > old and http://www.n2yo.com has it from December 2015. > > I haven't had this sort of problem before. Normally If it's up there then it > is listed in any number of different places and formats. With only two or > three APRS Sats available I thought there would be a ton of interest in this > one but it is tricky to find! > > Many thanks for your help, > > Paul > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mr.soup12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 01:22:54 2016 From: mr.soup12 at gmail.com (Oliver) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 19:22:54 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icon ID-51A for satellite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I already own a set of baofengs and an arrow antenna . I split the rx/tx. Should I be utilizing a duplexer on the receive regardless of this fact? Thank you to all who have commented so far. You have presented additional things to consider that I would not have known otherwise. On Jan 21, 2016 6:00 PM, "Fernando Ramirez" wrote: > Or, he can use the ID51A to receive and the Baofeng to transmit. He can > use an Arrow with the diplexer or buy a Comet one. > > Cheaper solution than the Kenwood HT. > > 73 > Fernando, NP4JV > On Jan 21, 2016 4:56 PM, "Bob" wrote: > >> Hi Oliver, >> >> An optimal choice would be a full-duplex HT, one that can receive on one >> band and transmit on another at the same time. The 51A won't do that. >> >> Check out this discussion: >> >> http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/trying-to-get-answers-on-full-duplex-ht-for-satellite.484629/ >> >> And specific to the 51A: >> http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/icom-id-51a.441780/ >> >> The Kenwood TH-D72A supports full duplex (also called cross-band repeat), >> for example. >> >> From work-sat.com: "Although it is preferable to work the FM sats in >> full-duplex mode (where you can hear the downlink as you key your mic), >> only one currently-manufactured HT does that well in our VHF/UHF mode >> - the Kenwood >> TH-D72a. " >> >> 73, Bob, WB4SON >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Oliver wrote: >> >> > Considering purchasing an icom. Can anyone comment on using the 51A vs >> a >> > baofeng? Particularly how sensitivity compares. >> > >> > Thanks and 73 >> > KD9CFO >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> > expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> > AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Fri Jan 22 02:31:49 2016 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT elset help request. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1393397000.7212538.1453429909951.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Thanks to AMSAT for publishing them, but for some reason combining "classified" with publicly available Keps seems like a non sequitur :) Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, 8:07 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: AMSAT publishes them. The currently available keps are a week old. Those should be adequate. They are generally updated once a week or so. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt NO-83, NO-84, and AO-85 were all launched as secondary payloads on classified missions, so Space Track does not publish keps (and since CelesTrak uses Space Track as its source, it won't have them either). 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Paul Telco wrote: > Hi, > > > > Can anyone help me to find a reliable source of tle Keps for PSAT please? > I'm trying to track it for APRS and maybe a bit of PSK31 later. > > > > For some reason PSAT (Parkinsonsat NORAD #40654) is not published in any of > the normal resources that I use. > > Space-Track lists it but doesn't have Keps for it. I think that is why > Celestrak etc doesn't have it at all. > > Interestingly, Heavens-Above does have an old elset which is about a week > old and http://www.n2yo.com has it from December 2015. > > I haven't had this sort of problem before. Normally If it's up there then it > is listed in any number of different places and formats. With only two or > three APRS Sats available I thought there would be a ton of interest in this > one but it is tricky to find! > > Many thanks for your help, > > Paul > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Fri Jan 22 13:38:38 2016 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes (CO7WT)) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 08:38:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icon ID-51A for satellite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56A230DE.1080904@frcuba.co.cu> Hi Oliver. This problem with the baofeng affect us only on the case you have a 2m uplink; if you have the case you may want to put a duplexer (or a LPF for 290Mhz) on the TRANSMIT radio in the side of 2m as close to the radio as possible, this will considerably attenuate the 3rd harmonic on 70cm. 73. El 21/01/16 a las 20:22, Oliver escribi?: > I already own a set of baofengs and an arrow antenna . I split the rx/tx. > > Should I be utilizing a duplexer on the receive regardless of this fact? > > Thank you to all who have commented so far. You have presented additional > things to consider that I would not have known otherwise. > On Jan 21, 2016 6:00 PM, "Fernando Ramirez" > wrote: > >> Or, he can use the ID51A to receive and the Baofeng to transmit. He can >> use an Arrow with the diplexer or buy a Comet one. >> >> Cheaper solution than the Kenwood HT. >> >> 73 >> Fernando, NP4JV >> On Jan 21, 2016 4:56 PM, "Bob" wrote: >> >>> Hi Oliver, >>> >>> An optimal choice would be a full-duplex HT, one that can receive on one >>> band and transmit on another at the same time. The 51A won't do that. >>> >>> Check out this discussion: >>> >>> http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/trying-to-get-answers-on-full-duplex-ht-for-satellite.484629/ >>> >>> And specific to the 51A: >>> http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/icom-id-51a.441780/ >>> >>> The Kenwood TH-D72A supports full duplex (also called cross-band repeat), >>> for example. >>> >>> From work-sat.com: "Although it is preferable to work the FM sats in >>> full-duplex mode (where you can hear the downlink as you key your mic), >>> only one currently-manufactured HT does that well in our VHF/UHF mode >>> - the Kenwood >>> TH-D72a. " >>> >>> 73, Bob, WB4SON >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Oliver wrote: >>> >>>> Considering purchasing an icom. Can anyone comment on using the 51A vs >>> a >>>> baofeng? Particularly how sensitivity compares. >>>> >>>> Thanks and 73 >>>> KD9CFO >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions >>>> expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tosca005 at umn.edu Fri Jan 22 19:10:46 2016 From: tosca005 at umn.edu (John Toscano) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:10:46 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: Mentioning that you are waiting for a tax refund makes me think you are planning to dive into SDR with a fairly high-end and expensive unit, You can probably get away with spending $25 or so if you have reasonably modest expectations. Noo Elec makes a whole line of SDR devices, from inexpensive dongles to the pricier (but well worth it if you have the passion) HackRF unit. Take a look here: http://www.nooelec.com/store/sdr.html There are some dongle vendors who sell junk. the Noo Elec units are high quality. Of course, take that recommendation from someone who owns one of their dongles, plus HackRF Blue board (clone of the HackRF and virtually unobtainable now), and a Flex-1500. ;^) 73 de W0JT/5, EL09vu On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:28 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr < art.ballentine at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I just wanted to say thank you. > I was also wondering the same thing and to see that it works well using an > SDR for receive is very reassuring. > Tax refund going to an SDR now. > > Thanks again! > 73 > Frank B > kb1qzh > FN31fa > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Norm n3ykf > wrote: > > > It gets far more interesting when there is a language barrier. One of > > these days I'll tell the "Documentos" story. > > > > Use an 857d and an IC-7000 in a Pelican case for moderate worldwide > > indestructibility. The Icom was chosen because of it's dual ADI DSP > > units working at IF. Power hog on standby. 2x what the Yaesu is. > > Wanted the flexibility of having an analog front end, as well, though. > > Each has it's strong points. > > > > Batteries are an easy commodity in the rest of the world. Most of the > > passes in the lands of la-la use the automobile as the power source. > > Surplus HP server supplies are useful and light. The bay your friend.. > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) > > wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:55:07 -0500, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > > > > >> Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what > do > > >> you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? > > > > > > This is probably overkill, but I've got two of 'em, one each for up and > > > down. One sitting on top of the other makes for a nice compact setup > > > that's easy to read. I took a piece of advice from KB5WIA, who does it > > > with two FT817's in a similar fashion > > > (http://kb5wia.blogspot.jp/2010/10/satellite-portable-station.html), > and > > > change the color of the display on one of the rigs so I can tell them > > > apart. > > > > > > I also have an adapter for my Heil Proset 6 headset, so I have the > > > headphone out jack coming out of one rig, and the mic/PTT going into > the > > > other with a hand switch. So all I have to do is walk around the back > of > > > my truck with a headset on, aiming an antenna on a tripod at the sky, > > > with one hand gripping what looks like a detonator. You'll have to > > > excuse me, the cops are here. > > > > > > -- > > > J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B > > > the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ > > > http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS > > > Twitter: @Minus2_C > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jimlist at zoho.com Fri Jan 22 19:53:12 2016 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:53:12 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube mode change Message-ID: Hi Folks, I have just set AO-73/FUNcube into permanent transponder mode. Plan, as usual, is to switch it back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC. Enjoy the transponder and have a FUN weekend. 73s Jim G3WGM From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Jan 22 20:08:49 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:08:49 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: Hi! I have been using SDR receivers as part of my satellite work for a little while now, and have used (or tried to use) a few of them... "RTL-SDR" dongles (the $20 or so dongles) FUNcube Dongle Pro (original version) FUNcube Dongle Pro+ (current version) SDRplay HackRF (One and Blue versions) The RTL-type dongles and the FUNcube Dongle Pro (not the Pro+) lack front-end filtering, which rendered them useless when I tried to transmit with either an HT or FT-817 in close proximity - even with there was a diplexer in front of the SDR devices. These devices would basically shut down until I ended my transmissions, when they would resume working. The newer R820T2 type of the RTL dongles may have better stability, but they all seem to lack front-end filtering that would be desired when working our satellites. The FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and SDRplay work well as the downlink receiver when I have worked satellites. These devices cost more than the RTL-SDR dongles, but they come with front-end filtering that helps greatly when they operate near your uplink transmitter. I have had success with both of these devices, along with HDSDR (the Windows software I prefer to use when working satellites with SDR receivers) running on a laptop or small Windows 8.1/10 tablet. I currently prefer to use the SDRplay as my downlink receiver when I am working satellites, but will occasionally use the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ from time to time. The SDRplay currently retails at US$ 149 from either HRO stores or the www.sdrplay.com web site located in the UK. The FUNcube Dongle Pro+ costs around US$ 190 to US$ 200 including FedEx shipping from the UK, depending on the exchange rate. The FUNcube Dongle Pro+ is supported by the FUNcube Dashboard software for FUNcube satellites like AO-73, and the FoxTelem software for AO-85 and the upcoming Fox-1 satellites. If I use my SDRplay to decode telemetry, I would need to pipe the received audio through a virtual audio cable into those programs before telemetry can be decoded by either of those programs. I have both the commercially-made HackRF One and the crowd- funded HackRF Blue devices. These are broadband transceivers that are capable of receiving at bandwidths up to 20 MHz. I have not tried using either of these when working satellites, mainly due to the lack of front-end filtering in these devices. HDSDR only supports using a HackRF device as a receiver, and I have not tried using either of these as a transmitter. The HackRF devices are capable of transmitting at low-milliwatt ranges across the spectrum they cover (officially 1 MHz to 6 GHz, but many have been able to lower the low end of that range to 100 kHz or so). The HackRF One retails at around US$ 300, depending on which reseller you buy from. My recommendation would be to go either with a FUNcube Dongle Pro+ or SDRplay. Both are in the same price range, and work well as part of a station for working our satellites. These may cost a lot more than the cheap RTL-SDR dongles, but it is better to know the limitations of the low-end devices up front, instead of getting frustrated with them later on. The cheaper dongles can work well for receive-only applications, provided you are not near strong sources of RF (including your own transmissions), but I think the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ or SDRplay would work well alongside the original poster's FT-857. Now if there was a software-defined transceiver capable of working our satellites full-duplex, without the need for upconverters/downconverters/transverters to cover 2m and 70cm, I'd be interested. Until then, I am OK with using an FT-817 (or similar radio) with an SDR receiver and software running on a tablet. I wrote articles about using these SDR devices with Windows tablets that ran in the AMSAT Journal and AMSAT-UK's OSCAR News in the past year. Those articles are available in PDFs from my Dropbox space: http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/ (go to the Articles folder, then look for the files with SDR in the file names) 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:10 PM, John Toscano wrote: > Mentioning that you are waiting for a tax refund makes me think you are > planning to dive into SDR with a fairly high-end and expensive unit, You > can probably get away with spending $25 or so if you have reasonably modest > expectations. Noo Elec makes a whole line of SDR devices, from inexpensive > dongles to the pricier (but well worth it if you have the passion) HackRF > unit. Take a look here: > http://www.nooelec.com/store/sdr.html > > There are some dongle vendors who sell junk. the Noo Elec units are high > quality. Of course, take that recommendation from someone who owns one of > their dongles, plus HackRF Blue board (clone of the HackRF and virtually > unobtainable now), and a Flex-1500. > ;^) > 73 de W0JT/5, EL09vu > > From dtabor at estesvalley.net Fri Jan 22 20:12:28 2016 From: dtabor at estesvalley.net (Douglas Tabor) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:12:28 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D Message-ID: <456B21C1-8218-4E8A-91DF-3B74630AE798@estesvalley.net> Sure makes me want to have a fixed location station, but given the condo life and that I?m effectively roving from my deck or my driveway (as well as the fun places I get to travel to, my 3 part (FT-530, Arrow and Peltor headset) full-duplex station is just what I need. When I figure out how to make the borrowed Flex-5000 work at home, I?ll go linear - or if I win the PowerBall. [Hardest part is using a SDR computer in outside in the sun.] 73, Doug, N6UA From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Jan 22 20:38:17 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:38:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <456B21C1-8218-4E8A-91DF-3B74630AE798@estesvalley.net> References: <456B21C1-8218-4E8A-91DF-3B74630AE798@estesvalley.net> Message-ID: Doug, I have a similar situation - I live in an apartment building here in Washington, DC, and when I wanted to get on the satellites, I had to figure out how to do it where it wouldn't take any time to setup and take down a station between passes. I now have a large DSLR camera bag fitted with shoulder straps carrying 2 Yaesu FT-817s, preamps, a voice recorder, Two MFJ diplexers for filtering on both transmit and receive, a Microset VUR-30 amplifier, and a 5100 mAh 3S LiPo battery to power the amplifier. This gives me a satellite station capable of 20-25 watts output that is completely carryable. When I want to work a pass, I just grab the bag, put it over my shoulders, grab the Arrow and step out onto the balcony or head outside. In the absence of obstructions, this station is capable of working any LEO satellite horizon to horizon. 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Douglas Tabor wrote: > Sure makes me want to have a fixed location station, but > given the condo life and that I?m effectively roving from > my deck or my driveway (as well as the fun places I get to > travel to, my 3 part (FT-530, Arrow and Peltor headset) > full-duplex station is just what I need. > > When I figure out how to make the borrowed Flex-5000 > work at home, I?ll go linear - or if I win the PowerBall. > [Hardest part is using a SDR computer in outside in the > sun.] > > 73, > > Doug, N6UA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w5pfg at amsat.org Fri Jan 22 20:45:11 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:45:11 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have not worked very well for me when combined with a transmitter. The FT-857D/FUNcube DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not one of the two RTL dongles was suitable for regular use. I rank the RTL's as a failure for both mode B or J birds without significant additional filters. For simple receive use, they're okay. If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. However, the SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth capability and is reasonably priced from HRO in the states. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/22/2016 13:10, John Toscano wrote: > Mentioning that you are waiting for a tax refund makes me think you are > planning to dive into SDR with a fairly high-end and expensive unit, You > can probably get away with spending $25 or so if you have reasonably modest > expectations. Noo Elec makes a whole line of SDR devices, from inexpensive > dongles to the pricier (but well worth it if you have the passion) HackRF > unit. Take a look here: > http://www.nooelec.com/store/sdr.html > > There are some dongle vendors who sell junk. the Noo Elec units are high > quality. Of course, take that recommendation from someone who owns one of > their dongles, plus HackRF Blue board (clone of the HackRF and virtually > unobtainable now), and a Flex-1500. > ;^) > 73 de W0JT/5, EL09vu > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:28 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr < > art.ballentine at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I just wanted to say thank you. >> I was also wondering the same thing and to see that it works well using an >> SDR for receive is very reassuring. >> Tax refund going to an SDR now. >> >> Thanks again! >> 73 >> Frank B >> kb1qzh >> FN31fa >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Norm n3ykf >> wrote: >> >>> It gets far more interesting when there is a language barrier. One of >>> these days I'll tell the "Documentos" story. >>> >>> Use an 857d and an IC-7000 in a Pelican case for moderate worldwide >>> indestructibility. The Icom was chosen because of it's dual ADI DSP >>> units working at IF. Power hog on standby. 2x what the Yaesu is. >>> Wanted the flexibility of having an analog front end, as well, though. >>> Each has it's strong points. >>> >>> Batteries are an easy commodity in the rest of the world. Most of the >>> passes in the lands of la-la use the automobile as the power source. >>> Surplus HP server supplies are useful and light. The bay your friend.. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) >>> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:55:07 -0500, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, what >> do >>>>> you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? >>>> >>>> This is probably overkill, but I've got two of 'em, one each for up and >>>> down. One sitting on top of the other makes for a nice compact setup >>>> that's easy to read. I took a piece of advice from KB5WIA, who does it >>>> with two FT817's in a similar fashion >>>> (http://kb5wia.blogspot.jp/2010/10/satellite-portable-station.html), >> and >>>> change the color of the display on one of the rigs so I can tell them >>>> apart. >>>> >>>> I also have an adapter for my Heil Proset 6 headset, so I have the >>>> headphone out jack coming out of one rig, and the mic/PTT going into >> the >>>> other with a hand switch. So all I have to do is walk around the back >> of >>>> my truck with a headset on, aiming an antenna on a tripod at the sky, >>>> with one hand gripping what looks like a detonator. You'll have to >>>> excuse me, the cops are here. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B >>>> the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ >>>> http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS >>>> Twitter: @Minus2_C >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From planophore at aei.ca Fri Jan 22 22:33:58 2016 From: planophore at aei.ca (Graham) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 22:33:58 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> Message-ID: <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> very interesting discussion. Does anyone have any first hand experience using the Airspy SDR http://airspy.com/ It is in the same price range as FCDP+ and a bit more than the SDRPlay. There are so many to choose from with prices all the over the place. I realize that you get what you pay for but sometimes that is not always obvious, for example the HackRF devices are considerably more the SDRPlay/FCDP+/Airspy but as someone commented, lacks front end filtering making them a poorer choice. So far I have been only dabbling with receiving the many satellites now flying about. It has been a long time since I have made any contacts through any of them, that was back in the OSCAR 7/8, RS10/11 era. cheers, Graham ve3gtc On 2016-01-22 20:45, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have not > worked very well for me when combined with a transmitter. The > FT-857D/FUNcube DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not one of the > two RTL dongles was suitable for regular use. I rank the RTL's as a > failure for both mode B or J birds without significant additional > filters. For simple receive use, they're okay. > > If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. However, > the SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth capability and is > reasonably priced from HRO in the states. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG From wageners at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 22:59:51 2016 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:59:51 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> Message-ID: Hi Graham. If you check online, the HackRF has been a huge disappointment as a receiver for a number of reasons. The airspy is better but at the end it is the FCD Pro+ that will outperform all of them especially with the narrow SAW filters on 2m and 70cm. I had all three and tested them extensively for satellite work. At the end I only kept the FCDplus+. Hope this helps, Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Graham wrote: > > very interesting discussion. > > Does anyone have any first hand experience using the Airspy SDR > http://airspy.com/ > > It is in the same price range as FCDP+ and a bit more than the SDRPlay. > > There are so many to choose from with prices all the over the place. I > realize that you get what you pay for but sometimes that is not always > obvious, for example the HackRF devices are considerably more the > SDRPlay/FCDP+/Airspy but as someone commented, lacks front end filtering > making them a poorer choice. > > So far I have been only dabbling with receiving the many satellites now > flying about. It has been a long time since I have made any contacts > through any of them, that was back in the OSCAR 7/8, RS10/11 era. > > cheers, Graham ve3gtc > > > > > > On 2016-01-22 20:45, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > >> Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have not worked >> very well for me when combined with a transmitter. The FT-857D/FUNcube >> DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not one of the two RTL dongles was >> suitable for regular use. I rank the RTL's as a failure for both mode B or >> J birds without significant additional filters. For simple receive use, >> they're okay. >> >> If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. However, the >> SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth capability and is reasonably >> priced from HRO in the states. >> >> 73 >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jbarbre at xmission.com Fri Jan 22 21:10:23 2016 From: jbarbre at xmission.com (Jim Barbre) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> Message-ID: <56A29ABF.9090609@xmission.com> I have an Airspy SDR which works great for the receive side of a satellite QSO. Cost is $199. Jim Barbre KB7YSY From k4rgk at arrl.net Fri Jan 22 23:24:49 2016 From: k4rgk at arrl.net (Daryl Young) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 18:24:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> Message-ID: <56A2BA41.8000608@arrl.net> Stefan, I'm curious if you worked with SDRPlay in your testing. It has positive feedback here but it's not included in your tested "3". I've had great operational results with the SDRPlay but I have not compared it with other SDR receivers for satellite work. Thanks & 73 *Daryl K4RGK * On 1/22/2016 5:59 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > Hi Graham. > > If you check online, the HackRF has been a huge disappointment as a > receiver for a number of reasons. The airspy is better but at the end it is > the FCD Pro+ that will outperform all of them especially with the narrow > SAW filters on 2m and 70cm. I had all three and tested them extensively for > satellite work. At the end I only kept the FCDplus+. > > Hope this helps, > > Stefan, VE4NSA > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Graham wrote: > >> very interesting discussion. >> >> Does anyone have any first hand experience using the Airspy SDR >> http://airspy.com/ >> >> It is in the same price range as FCDP+ and a bit more than the SDRPlay. >> >> There are so many to choose from with prices all the over the place. I >> realize that you get what you pay for but sometimes that is not always >> obvious, for example the HackRF devices are considerably more the >> SDRPlay/FCDP+/Airspy but as someone commented, lacks front end filtering >> making them a poorer choice. >> >> So far I have been only dabbling with receiving the many satellites now >> flying about. It has been a long time since I have made any contacts >> through any of them, that was back in the OSCAR 7/8, RS10/11 era. >> >> cheers, Graham ve3gtc >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2016-01-22 20:45, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >> >>> Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have not worked >>> very well for me when combined with a transmitter. The FT-857D/FUNcube >>> DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not one of the two RTL dongles was >>> suitable for regular use. I rank the RTL's as a failure for both mode B or >>> J birds without significant additional filters. For simple receive use, >>> they're okay. >>> >>> If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. However, the >>> SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth capability and is reasonably >>> priced from HRO in the states. >>> >>> 73 >>> Clayton >>> W5PFG >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From wageners at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 23:49:49 2016 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 17:49:49 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <56A2BA41.8000608@arrl.net> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> <56A2BA41.8000608@arrl.net> Message-ID: Thanks Daryl, No, never had one. Reviews however look promising and you can get it for $150 from HRO. Maybe other folks can chip in about their experiences. 73, Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Daryl Young wrote: > Stefan, > > I'm curious if you worked with SDRPlay in your testing. It has positive > feedback here but it's not included in your tested "3". I've had great > operational results with the SDRPlay but I have not compared it with other > SDR receivers for satellite work. > > Thanks & 73 > > *Daryl > K4RGK > > > * > > On 1/22/2016 5:59 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > >> Hi Graham. >> >> If you check online, the HackRF has been a huge disappointment as a >> receiver for a number of reasons. The airspy is better but at the end it >> is >> the FCD Pro+ that will outperform all of them especially with the narrow >> SAW filters on 2m and 70cm. I had all three and tested them extensively >> for >> satellite work. At the end I only kept the FCDplus+. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Stefan, VE4NSA >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Graham wrote: >> >> very interesting discussion. >>> >>> Does anyone have any first hand experience using the Airspy SDR >>> http://airspy.com/ >>> >>> It is in the same price range as FCDP+ and a bit more than the SDRPlay. >>> >>> There are so many to choose from with prices all the over the place. I >>> realize that you get what you pay for but sometimes that is not always >>> obvious, for example the HackRF devices are considerably more the >>> SDRPlay/FCDP+/Airspy but as someone commented, lacks front end filtering >>> making them a poorer choice. >>> >>> So far I have been only dabbling with receiving the many satellites now >>> flying about. It has been a long time since I have made any contacts >>> through any of them, that was back in the OSCAR 7/8, RS10/11 era. >>> >>> cheers, Graham ve3gtc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2016-01-22 20:45, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >>> >>> Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have not worked >>>> very well for me when combined with a transmitter. The FT-857D/FUNcube >>>> DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not one of the two RTL dongles was >>>> suitable for regular use. I rank the RTL's as a failure for both mode >>>> B or >>>> J birds without significant additional filters. For simple receive use, >>>> they're okay. >>>> >>>> If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. However, the >>>> SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth capability and is reasonably >>>> priced from HRO in the states. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> Clayton >>>> W5PFG >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From planophore at aei.ca Sat Jan 23 00:01:41 2016 From: planophore at aei.ca (Graham) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 00:01:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR's for satellite work, was: ===> Re: Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050606@amsat.org> <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> Message-ID: <56A2C2E5.6030709@aei.ca> Thank you Stefan (and all), I think I will put the FCDP+ at the top of my list for now. Regards software. This has been a bit hit and miss with me for SDR's. I like SDR# but it is Windoze only. I prefer Linux but use Windows when have to. On Linux I have been using GQRX. They all have their pluses and minuses but the challenge becomes getting everything to place nice together, for example which OS? I like GPREDICT and there are Windows and Linux flavours but the FCDP+ software is Windows only (or is it? I will have a go look see). I guess it is time to do some more reading and research. Glad I didn't get a HackRF. cheers, Graham ve3gtc On 2016-01-22 22:59, Stefan Wagener wrote: > Hi Graham. > > If you check online, the HackRF has been a huge disappointment as a > receiver for a number of reasons. The airspy is better but at the end > it is the FCD Pro+ that will outperform all of them especially with > the narrow SAW filters on 2m and 70cm. I had all three and tested them > extensively for satellite work. At the end I only kept the FCDplus+. > > Hope this helps, > > Stefan, VE4NSA > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Graham > wrote: > > > very interesting discussion. > > Does anyone have any first hand experience using the Airspy SDR > http://airspy.com/ > > It is in the same price range as FCDP+ and a bit more than the > SDRPlay. > > There are so many to choose from with prices all the over the > place. I realize that you get what you pay for but sometimes that > is not always obvious, for example the HackRF devices are > considerably more the SDRPlay/FCDP+/Airspy but as someone > commented, lacks front end filtering making them a poorer choice. > > So far I have been only dabbling with receiving the many > satellites now flying about. It has been a long time since I have > made any contacts through any of them, that was back in the OSCAR > 7/8, RS10/11 era. > > cheers, Graham ve3gtc > > > > > > On 2016-01-22 20:45, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > > Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have > not worked very well for me when combined with a transmitter. > The FT-857D/FUNcube DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not > one of the two RTL dongles was suitable for regular use. I > rank the RTL's as a failure for both mode B or J birds without > significant additional filters. For simple receive use, > they're okay. > > If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. > However, the SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth > capability and is reasonably priced from HRO in the states. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA > makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From Saguaroastro at cox.net Sat Jan 23 00:23:48 2016 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 17:23:48 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D Message-ID: Move up the thread, Patrick WD9EWK has written about his experience using the AIRplay. He links to it in his comments. 73 Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On January 22, 2016, at 16:49, Stefan Wagener wrote: Thanks Daryl, No, never had one. Reviews however look promising and you can get it for $150 from HRO. Maybe other folks can chip in about their experiences. 73, Stefan, VE4NSA On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Daryl Young wrote: > Stefan, > > I'm curious if you worked with SDRPlay in your testing. It has positive > feedback here but it's not included in your tested "3". I've had great > operational results with the SDRPlay but I have not compared it with other > SDR receivers for satellite work. > > Thanks & 73 > > *Daryl > K4RGK > > > * > > On 1/22/2016 5:59 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > >> Hi Graham. >> >> If you check online, the HackRF has been a huge disappointment as a >> receiver for a number of reasons. The airspy is better but at the end it >> is >> the FCD Pro+ that will outperform all of them especially with the narrow >> SAW filters on 2m and 70cm. I had all three and tested them extensively >> for >> satellite work. At the end I only kept the FCDplus+. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Stefan, VE4NSA >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Graham wrote: >> >> very interesting discussion. >>> >>> Does anyone have any first hand experience using the Airspy SDR >>> http://airspy.com/ >>> >>> It is in the same price range as FCDP+ and a bit more than the SDRPlay. >>> >>> There are so many to choose from with prices all the over the place. I >>> realize that you get what you pay for but sometimes that is not always >>> obvious, for example the HackRF devices are considerably more the >>> SDRPlay/FCDP+/Airspy but as someone commented, lacks front end filtering >>> making them a poorer choice. >>> >>> So far I have been only dabbling with receiving the many satellites now >>> flying about. It has been a long time since I have made any contacts >>> through any of them, that was back in the OSCAR 7/8, RS10/11 era. >>> >>> cheers, Graham ve3gtc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2016-01-22 20:45, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >>> >>> Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have not worked >>>> very well for me when combined with a transmitter. The FT-857D/FUNcube >>>> DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not one of the two RTL dongles was >>>> suitable for regular use. I rank the RTL's as a failure for both mode >>>> B or >>>> J birds without significant additional filters. For simple receive use, >>>> they're okay. >>>> >>>> If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. However, the >>>> SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth capability and is reasonably >>>> priced from HRO in the states. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> Clayton >>>> W5PFG >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w5pfg at amsat.org Sat Jan 23 02:37:04 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 20:37:04 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR's for satellite work, was: ===> Re: Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <56A2C2E5.6030709@aei.ca> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050 606@amsat.org> <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> <56A2C2E5.6030709@aei.ca> Message-ID: <56A2E750.7020203@amsat.org> Graham, I know you specifically said you prefer Linux, but the solution which brought me the most success was HDSDR+SatPC32. The two applications talk together well via CAT and a pair of virtual serial ports. This gives you full Doppler shift adjustment by computer control. My FT-857D was configured as a radio in SatPC32. The FCDP+ was configured as the other radio in SatPC32. If you moved the dial on the radio, there was full, tracking feedback to SatPC32 and HDSDR. If you tuned on the HDSDR, it adjusted the radio as well. I made several hundred contacts on all the available satellites during the time I was playing with this in the shack. The only drawback to the solution was having to swap coax lines between 2m and 70cm. 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/22/2016 18:01, Graham wrote: > Thank you Stefan (and all), > > I think I will put the FCDP+ at the top of my list for now. > > Regards software. This has been a bit hit and miss with me for SDR's. > > I like SDR# but it is Windoze only. I prefer Linux but use Windows when > have to. On Linux I have been using GQRX. They all have their pluses and > minuses but the challenge becomes getting everything to place nice > together, for example which OS? I like GPREDICT and there are Windows > and Linux flavours but the FCDP+ software is Windows only (or is it? I > will have a go look see). > > I guess it is time to do some more reading and research. > > Glad I didn't get a HackRF. > > cheers, Graham ve3gtc > > > > > On 2016-01-22 22:59, Stefan Wagener wrote: >> Hi Graham. >> >> If you check online, the HackRF has been a huge disappointment as a >> receiver for a number of reasons. The airspy is better but at the end >> it is the FCD Pro+ that will outperform all of them especially with >> the narrow SAW filters on 2m and 70cm. I had all three and tested them >> extensively for satellite work. At the end I only kept the FCDplus+. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Stefan, VE4NSA >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Graham > > wrote: >> >> >> very interesting discussion. >> >> Does anyone have any first hand experience using the Airspy SDR >> http://airspy.com/ >> >> It is in the same price range as FCDP+ and a bit more than the >> SDRPlay. >> >> There are so many to choose from with prices all the over the >> place. I realize that you get what you pay for but sometimes that >> is not always obvious, for example the HackRF devices are >> considerably more the SDRPlay/FCDP+/Airspy but as someone >> commented, lacks front end filtering making them a poorer choice. >> >> So far I have been only dabbling with receiving the many >> satellites now flying about. It has been a long time since I have >> made any contacts through any of them, that was back in the OSCAR >> 7/8, RS10/11 era. >> >> cheers, Graham ve3gtc >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2016-01-22 20:45, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >> >> Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have >> not worked very well for me when combined with a transmitter. >> The FT-857D/FUNcube DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not >> one of the two RTL dongles was suitable for regular use. I >> rank the RTL's as a failure for both mode B or J birds without >> significant additional filters. For simple receive use, >> they're okay. >> >> If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. >> However, the SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth >> capability and is reasonably priced from HRO in the states. >> >> 73 >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA >> makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat Jan 23 03:44:19 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 03:44:19 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Blue Origin's Booster Flies And Lands For Second Time Message-ID: http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/01/22/blue-origin-reflies-booster-space/ Two successful flights and landings with the same vehicle. This is definitely promising. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat Jan 23 06:05:25 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 06:05:25 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] More On Blue Origin's Latest Flight Message-ID: http://www.spacepolicyonline.com/news/blue-origin-reuses-reusable-rocket http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/missions/commercial/blue-origin-re-flies-new-shepard/ http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/01/blue-origin-successful-reuse-test-new-shepard/ 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From art.ballentine at gmail.com Sat Jan 23 06:21:21 2016 From: art.ballentine at gmail.com (Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 01:21:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: Hi, I have the original FCD and the RTL dongle (not the most current chipset). Both have been OK but I wouldn't mind stepping up. I'm looking for comparisons between the SDRPlay and the AirSpy receivers. I had considered HackRF or BladeRF but i think by the time I got around to playing with their transmit functions, they would have been replaced. 73 Frank B kb1qzh On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:10 PM, John Toscano wrote: > Mentioning that you are waiting for a tax refund makes me think you are > planning to dive into SDR with a fairly high-end and expensive unit, You > can probably get away with spending $25 or so if you have reasonably modest > expectations. Noo Elec makes a whole line of SDR devices, from inexpensive > dongles to the pricier (but well worth it if you have the passion) HackRF > unit. Take a look here: > http://www.nooelec.com/store/sdr.html > > There are some dongle vendors who sell junk. the Noo Elec units are high > quality. Of course, take that recommendation from someone who owns one of > their dongles, plus HackRF Blue board (clone of the HackRF and virtually > unobtainable now), and a Flex-1500. > ;^) > 73 de W0JT/5, EL09vu > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:28 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr < > art.ballentine at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I just wanted to say thank you. >> I was also wondering the same thing and to see that it works well using an >> SDR for receive is very reassuring. >> Tax refund going to an SDR now. >> >> Thanks again! >> 73 >> Frank B >> kb1qzh >> FN31fa >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Norm n3ykf >> wrote: >> >> > It gets far more interesting when there is a language barrier. One of >> > these days I'll tell the "Documentos" story. >> > >> > Use an 857d and an IC-7000 in a Pelican case for moderate worldwide >> > indestructibility. The Icom was chosen because of it's dual ADI DSP >> > units working at IF. Power hog on standby. 2x what the Yaesu is. >> > Wanted the flexibility of having an analog front end, as well, though. >> > Each has it's strong points. >> > >> > Batteries are an easy commodity in the rest of the world. Most of the >> > passes in the lands of la-la use the automobile as the power source. >> > Surplus HP server supplies are useful and light. The bay your friend.. >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) >> > wrote: >> > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:55:07 -0500, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >> > > >> > >> Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, >> what do >> > >> you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? >> > > >> > > This is probably overkill, but I've got two of 'em, one each for up >> and >> > > down. One sitting on top of the other makes for a nice compact setup >> > > that's easy to read. I took a piece of advice from KB5WIA, who does it >> > > with two FT817's in a similar fashion >> > > (http://kb5wia.blogspot.jp/2010/10/satellite-portable-station.html), >> and >> > > change the color of the display on one of the rigs so I can tell them >> > > apart. >> > > >> > > I also have an adapter for my Heil Proset 6 headset, so I have the >> > > headphone out jack coming out of one rig, and the mic/PTT going into >> the >> > > other with a hand switch. So all I have to do is walk around the back >> of >> > > my truck with a headset on, aiming an antenna on a tripod at the sky, >> > > with one hand gripping what looks like a detonator. You'll have to >> > > excuse me, the cops are here. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B >> > > the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp >> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ >> > > http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS >> > > Twitter: @Minus2_C >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> > Opinions expressed >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of >> > AMSAT-NA. >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> > program! >> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> > expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> > AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From kq6ea at verizon.net Sat Jan 23 07:03:33 2016 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 07:03:33 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: <56A325C5.6010905@verizon.net> Hi, Frank I had a HackRF for a couple of weeks and got rid of it. It only does 8-bits for the receive conversion, just like a $20 dongle, and IMO, is not worth the $300 price tag. YMMV, but I was quite disappointed with it, 73, Jim KQ6EA On 01/23/2016 06:21 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr wrote: > Hi, > I have the original FCD and the RTL dongle (not the most current chipset). > Both have been OK but I wouldn't mind stepping up. > I'm looking for comparisons between the SDRPlay and the AirSpy receivers. > I had considered HackRF or BladeRF but i think by the time I got around to > playing with their transmit functions, they would have been replaced. > > 73 > Frank B > kb1qzh > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:10 PM, John Toscano wrote: > >> Mentioning that you are waiting for a tax refund makes me think you are >> planning to dive into SDR with a fairly high-end and expensive unit, You >> can probably get away with spending $25 or so if you have reasonably modest >> expectations. Noo Elec makes a whole line of SDR devices, from inexpensive >> dongles to the pricier (but well worth it if you have the passion) HackRF >> unit. Take a look here: >> http://www.nooelec.com/store/sdr.html >> >> There are some dongle vendors who sell junk. the Noo Elec units are high >> quality. Of course, take that recommendation from someone who owns one of >> their dongles, plus HackRF Blue board (clone of the HackRF and virtually >> unobtainable now), and a Flex-1500. >> ;^) >> 73 de W0JT/5, EL09vu >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:28 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr < >> art.ballentine at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I just wanted to say thank you. >>> I was also wondering the same thing and to see that it works well using an >>> SDR for receive is very reassuring. >>> Tax refund going to an SDR now. >>> >>> Thanks again! >>> 73 >>> Frank B >>> kb1qzh >>> FN31fa >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Norm n3ykf >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It gets far more interesting when there is a language barrier. One of >>>> these days I'll tell the "Documentos" story. >>>> >>>> Use an 857d and an IC-7000 in a Pelican case for moderate worldwide >>>> indestructibility. The Icom was chosen because of it's dual ADI DSP >>>> units working at IF. Power hog on standby. 2x what the Yaesu is. >>>> Wanted the flexibility of having an analog front end, as well, though. >>>> Each has it's strong points. >>>> >>>> Batteries are an easy commodity in the rest of the world. Most of the >>>> passes in the lands of la-la use the automobile as the power source. >>>> Surplus HP server supplies are useful and light. The bay your friend.. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:55:07 -0500, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anybody using a Yaesu FT 857D to work the SSB satellites? If so, >>> what do >>>>>> you think? Can you take it outside and use it with an Arrow antenna? >>>>> This is probably overkill, but I've got two of 'em, one each for up >>> and >>>>> down. One sitting on top of the other makes for a nice compact setup >>>>> that's easy to read. I took a piece of advice from KB5WIA, who does it >>>>> with two FT817's in a similar fashion >>>>> (http://kb5wia.blogspot.jp/2010/10/satellite-portable-station.html), >>> and >>>>> change the color of the display on one of the rigs so I can tell them >>>>> apart. >>>>> >>>>> I also have an adapter for my Heil Proset 6 headset, so I have the >>>>> headphone out jack coming out of one rig, and the mic/PTT going into >>> the >>>>> other with a hand switch. So all I have to do is walk around the back >>> of >>>>> my truck with a headset on, aiming an antenna on a tripod at the sky, >>>>> with one hand gripping what looks like a detonator. You'll have to >>>>> excuse me, the cops are here. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B >>>>> the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp >>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ >>>>> http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS >>>>> Twitter: @Minus2_C >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions >>>> expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Jan 23 22:43:02 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:43:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yuri UT1FG is on the move Message-ID: <007b01d1562f$6ab280f0$401782d0$@com> For those who chase Yuri in new grids, I received an update that he has left port in Montreal and is headed to Algiers. 73, Drew KO4MA From m-arai at a.email.ne.jp Sun Jan 24 02:16:20 2016 From: m-arai at a.email.ne.jp (Masahiro Arai) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:16:20 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] AggieSat4 and Bevo-2 deploy from ISS Message-ID: <56A433F4.7070408@a.email.ne.jp> JAXA announced LONESTAR deploy from ISS at 29th Jan. LONESTAR must be AggieSat4 and Bevo-2. AggieSat4 is mother satellite and Bevo-2 is daughter. Bevo-2 deploy from AggieSat4. The satellites deploy from ISS through Kibou's airlock via Cyclops. Preparation of deployment will be done from 27th to 28th, and deploy at 29th. According to IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination, both satellite operate on amateur band. AggieSat4 Texas A&M University 61x61x28 cm, 50kg 436.250MHz 9k6 FSK, 153k6 FSK https://www.facebook.com/AggieSatLab Bevo-2 University of Texas Texas Spacecraft Laboratory 3U CubeSat, 4kg 437.325MHz 38k4 FSK, CW https://www.facebook.com/UTSatLab 73 Masa JN1GKZ Tokyo Japan From wao at vfr.net Sun Jan 24 05:15:06 2016 From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:15:06 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-024 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <56A45DDA.20807@vfr.net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-024 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * In Memory of Robert J. (Bob) Carpenter, W3OTC-SK by Bill Tynan, W3XO * AMSAT SKN Winners and Changes for Next Year * Student Internship CubeSat Opportunities in Greenbelt, MD USA * VHF Groups Join Forces to Sponsor "Super Conference" * 2016 NASA Student Airborne Research Program * AMSAT Events * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-024.01 ANS-024 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 024.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE January 24, 2016 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-024.01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- In Memory of Robert J. (Bob) Carpenter, W3OTC-SK by Bill Tynan, W3XO Bob, a longtime friend, one-time business partner and devoted AMAST volunteer became a Silent Key Friday, January 8th. Bob was born July 31, 1930 in Washington, DC. I first met Bob in the late 1940s on six meters. At the time, we both lived in Silver Spring, Maryland. After a few QSOs we decided to meet and compare notes. I found that, in addition to the interest we shared in the VHF bands, he was very intrigued with FM broadcasting, as I had been for years. Following graduation from The University of Maryland, in 1951 with a degree of Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering, Bob served in the U.S. Air Force, at the US Air Force Research Center in Cambridge, Massachusetts. On completing his Air Force commitment, he joined the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory in the DC area where I was employed. Leaving the Laboratory 1955, Bob joined, what was then called the National Bureau of Standards, first in Boulder, Colorado and later at their facility at Gaithersburg, Maryland. In his early work at the Bureau, he was instrumental in the development of technology for passing message traffic via the short bursts of VHF frequency propagation caused by the ionization produced by meteors entering the Earth's atmosphere. When Bob returned to Maryland, he was involved in development of computer networking, retiring from what is now called The National Institute for Standard and Technology in 1992. In 1988, he received the US Department of Commerce Gold Medal Award for Distinguished Service. Following retirement from NIST, Bob became available to assist AMSAT, of which he was an early member, holding AMSAT Life Membership Number 21. His knowledge of computers, was invaluable to Martha in keeping the office computers up to date and the various data bases current. He regularly came into the AMSAT office up until the last few days of his life. Bob was active on six meters up until the time he sold his home in Rockville, Maryland and moved to a retirement facility in nearby Gaithersburg. In earlier years, Bob did extensive traveling in Europe and elsewhere, his favorite country to visit being France. He became quite fluent in the French language. He went on one DXpedition, journeying to the French Caribbean island of Guadalupe. I, and a number of other six meter operators, were able to work a new country through Bob's efforts. As mentioned earlier, Bob and I shared in interest in FM broadcasting. That interest blossomed during the late 1950s when Bob rented half of the house I then owned in Rockville, Maryland. After much discussion of the pros and cons, we decided to construct a station of our own. So, we applied for a Construction Permit (CP) from FCC to build a station in Bethesda, Maryland, a nearby suburb of Washington. Bob handled most of the technical work, while I concentrated on the business side. He always has been more adept at the technical side of radio and electronics than I. After receiving our CP, we went to work in earnest to build the station. Finally, in June, 1961, FCC came out with standards for broadcasting stereo. Bob and I reasoned that, for a new station, such as ours, to have any chance of success, it had to hit the air with stereo. Since there was no stereo broadcasting equipment available at the time, much of what we needed had to be constructed by us. This herculean task could not have been completed without Bob's expertise, but on November 12, 1961, only five months after FCC's establishment of standards for stereo broadcasting, WHFS, the DC area's first stereo FM station, hit the air on 102.3 MHz. Once on the air, Bob kept WHFS on the air while I struggled with the multitude of paperwork associated with running a small business, especially a radio station. Each of us was smart enough to keep our ?day jobs,? making running a radio station especially difficult. We sold the station in 1963, affording Bob and me more time for ham radio. It has been a great pleasure to have known Bob all these years. I will miss him and I know that Martha and all of AMSAT will miss him as well. 73, Bob. With thanks to Perry Klein, W3PK, and Tom Pyke, K4DSD, who were responsible for providing valuable information for this tribute to Bob. Martha at the AMSAT Office reports: "The memorial service for Bob Carpenter, W3OTC has been postponed for 1 week due to weather. It is now scheduled to take place at 7:00 PM on Saturday, January 30th at the chapel of Asbury Methodist Village in Gaithersburg MD." [ANS thanks Bill Tynan, W3XO, AMSAT President Emeritus for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT SKN Winners and Changes for Next Year Thanks again to all who participated in AMSAT's Straight Key Night 2016, held in memory of Ben Stevenson, W2BXA. The following participants each received at least one Best Fist nomination: AA5PK,. WA5KBH, WA8SME, W3TMZ, W4CVV, W5PFG. Special kudos to Glenn Miller, AA5PK, who received three. Activity was down this year, for a variety of reasons, some having to do with availability of suitable satellites and some to do with changes in amateur radio in general. Since this was AMSAT's 25th annual SKN, it's a good time to consider changes. While Morse as a license qualification has gone the way of the spark gap, amateur CW activity is as popular as ever. Straight keys and "bugs", however, have found a niche primarily with the boat anchor crowd, and AMSAT's insistence on their use in OSCAR SKN is probably holding down participation. Similar considerations have led ARRL to broaden its annual HF event to include all forms of CW, even computer-generated. The idea is to encourage everyone to enjoy CW operation, no matter how they choose to do it. So, in with the new: AMSAT CW Activity Day on OSCAR. As with the old SKN, it will be a fun event, not a contest, and will run for 24 hours on January 1. All forms of CW will be welcome. Instead of best fist nominations, all participants will be encouraged to post "Soapbox" comments to AMSAT-BB. A further announcement will be posted in December 2016. [ANS thanks Ray, W2RS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Student Internship CubeSat Opportunities in Greenbelt, MD USA APPLY NOW: Paid NASA Intern Opportunities Summer 2016 The NASA Goddard Space Flight Center is offering student internship positions for the Summer 2016 semester. Applications are being taken on the NASA One Stop Shopping Initiative (OSSI) recruiting web site. Go to: https://intern.nasa.gov --> Student Opportunities --> then click on the first dropdown link to start reading all about the internships and the process of applying. There is no need for students to upload a resume in OSSI when they apply. The resume is essentially built through the student's responses to the questions within the online application. Go to: https://intern.nasa.gov/ossi/web/public/guest/searchOpps/ to search and filter through the many Opportunities at the different NASA locations across the country in addition to the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. Search on "cubesat" without the quotes to see examples from which the student may select to apply. One such Opportunity, "CubeSat Ground Station Development," Is being offered by NASA engineer and fellow AMSAT member Pat Kilroy, N8PK. He is looking for university level students with a course of study in engineering. Electrical or Electronics Engineering (EE) or Electrical and Computer Engineering (ECE) majors in their junior class or higher this fall are sought for the 10-week summer program. Pat says experience in hardware and certain skills are required, as described in the text of his Opportunity listing. Open to U.S. citizens. The student application instructions provide a deadline of March 1 to apply, but mentors have already started to evaluate applications and make their selections. The word to the wise is to get in one's application immediately. Don't wait. Applications must be made via the OSSI web. Please be sure to include your Amateur Radio callsign under the Special Skills section -- or that you are studying for it. [ANS thanks NASA and Pat, N8PK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- VHF Groups Join Forces to Sponsor "Super Conference" The Southeastern VHF Society (SVHFS), North East Weak Signal Group (NEWS) and Mount Airy VHF Radio Club (Pack Rats) are cosponsoring a VHF Super Conference, hosted by the Grid Pirates Contest Group (K8GP) and Directive Systems and Engineering. The conference will take place April 15-17 in Sterling, Virginia. Early registration discounts are available. Conference Proceedings in printed and digital form will be available after the event. Sign up when registering. All registrations include lunch and all-day beverages. The event will feature an array of forums and workshops, a test lab, and a conference banquet. A microwave loop Yagi workshop will be offered during the weekend at an additional fee. The workshop will explain how loop Yagis work, how to adjust them, and how to build one. Free shuttle service will be available to the Udvar-Hazy Air & Space Museum. A second call for papers and presentations for the VHF Super Conference has been issued. The conference sponsors are seeking presentations or papers dealing with all aspects of VHF, UHF, microwave, and higher. Topics may include operating, contesting, homebrewing, software, EME, surplus, antennas, test equipment, amplifiers, and SDR. Photos are encouraged. Steve Kostro, N2CEI, and Paul Wade, W1GHZ, are coordinating Proceedings. Direct submissions and questions to them via e-mail. View the ARRL press release at: http://www.arrl.org/news/vhf-groups-join-forces-to-sponsor-super-conference [ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2016 NASA Student Airborne Research Program The NASA Airborne Science Program invites highly motivated undergraduate students currently in their junior year to apply for the NASA Student Airborne Research Program, also known as SARP 2016. The program provides students with hands-on research experience in all aspects of a major scientific campaign, from detailed planning on how to achieve mission objectives to formal presentation of results and conclusions to peers and others. Students will assist in the operation of airborne instruments aboard the NASA DC-8 aircraft. They also will analyze remote-sensing data collected during the program from the NASA ER-2. The program takes place in summer 2016. Instrument and flight preparations, and the research flights themselves, will occur at NASA's Armstrong Flight Research Center in Palmdale, California. Postflight data analysis and interpretation will take place at the University of California, Irvine. Successful applicants will be awarded a stipend plus a travel allowance for eight weeks of participation in the program. Housing and local transportation also will be provided. The deadline for applications is Feb. 2, 2016. For more information and to download the program application, visit http://www.nserc.und.edu/sarp/sarp-2016. Specific questions about the program should be directed to SARP2016 at nserc.und.edu. [ANS thanks the NASA Education Express Message -- Jan. 21, 2016 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Events Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around the country. Examples of these events are radio club meetings where AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations, forums, and/or demonstrations). *Friday and Saturday, 19-20 February 2016 ? Yuma Hamfest and 2016 ARRL Southwest Division Convention in Yuma AZ *Friday, 4 March 2016 ? presentation for the Associated Radio Amateurs of Long Beach meeting in Signal Hill CA *Saturday and Sunday, 12-13 March 2016 ? ScienceCity science fair, on the University of Arizona campus in Tucson AZ *Saturday, 19 March 2016 ? Scottsdale Amateur Radio Club Spring Hamfest 2016 in Scottsdale AZ *Saturday, 26 March 2016 ? Tucson Spring Hamfest in Tucson AZ *Saturday, 7 May 2016 ? Cochise Amateur Radio Association Hamfest in Sierra Vista AZ *Saturday, 4 June 2016 ? White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low AZ [ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Sucessful Contacts Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign was NA1SS The scheduled astronaut was Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact was successful: Wed 2016-01-20 08:37:04 UTC 26 deg A telebridge contact via VK5ZAI with students at Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal was successful 01/20/2016 at 08:37:04 UTC 26 deg. Astronaut Tim Peake, KG5BVI answered 17 questions for students. An audience of about 300 included students from 10 other schools, as well as the British Ambassador to Nepal, the Cultural Affairs Officer from the US Embassy, and a member of the National Human Rights Commission and former Ministry for Science and Technology. Brihaspati Vidyasadan is a 32 year old High school, located in Kathmandu, Nepal. Brihaspati runs classes from nursery to 100 at secondary level and the 10+2 program in Science and Management at the higher secondary Level. Besides these Brihaspati also runs Diploma in Hospitality Management and Tourism in affiliation with Confederation of Tourism and Hospitality (CTH), UK. Brihaspati is known for its academic excellence. To date Brihaspati has produced over 2000 SLC graduates and over 600 +2 graduates who have achieved excellent academic achievements. Brihaspati has also been awarded the "Best School in Nepal" in 2055BS. Brihaspati is also known for its co-curricular and extra-curricular activities including sports, debates and concerts. Over the years the school has achieved Inter-school successes in football (soccer), cricket and basketball at national levels. School has also successes in inter-school competitions like debate, elocution and concerts. For its academic, co-curricular and extra-curricular achievements Brihaspati has been placed among the Class A schools of Nepal by the Ministry of Education, Government of Nepal. Brihaspati staff and students have been known for their innovation in education. The school is reputed to be the first school in Nepal to introduce computer education. Brihaspati houses clubs like Lokopakar, which is a student club that looks into Humanitarian aid. Brihaspati students recently started ?gThink Ink?h, an activity designed using the principles of Extreme Design from Stanford for instilling critical thinking and problem solving skills in students. This program has gained attention of a lot of people in the academia at a very rapid pace. Brihaspati is located in a 25 acre land space at the heart of Kathmandu within the Balmandir compound. It has academic facility that is of very high standards. It houses the Free and Open Source Research Lab and Ham (amateur radio) facility that students and staff have access to. Recently during the earthquake of Nepal, one of the buildings of Brihaspati was used by ham radio operators from Nepal and India to coordinate search and reconciliation of families where over 500 families were reunited with their loved ones. Some local news media video reports are available at http://thehimalayantimes.com/kathmandu/british-astronaut-tells-nepali- students-to-follow-their-cherished-dreams/ http://e-visitnepal.blogspot.se/2016/01/talk-to-astronauts.html http://nagariknews.com/feature-article/story/52883.html Upcoming Contacts A direct contact with students at PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand is scheduled for Sat 2016-01-30 11:06:23 UTC 63 deg. PSU. Wittayanusorn School, established in 2005, is a Prince of Songkla University affiliated private high school in Hatyai, Songkhla Province, Thailand. The school serves approximately 1,200 students in 7th to 12th grade. The school's identity colors are blue and grey. The blue represents sustainability and grey stands for wisdom. The school motto is "wisdom brings lasting success and happiness". The guiding principle is "our soul is for the benefit of mankind". The desired characteristics of our students are "SMART+" which are referred to scientific mind, good manner, aesthetic appreciation, responsibility and reliability, teamwork, and +global citizenship. Green education is our school's uniqueness which focuses on education for sustainable development. PSU. Wittayanusorn School is dedicated to create an exceptional teaching and learning environment in which morality is emphasized, science and mathematics concepts are embedded. The school curriculum is designed to maximize each student's potential for critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, community involvement, and responsible leadership. Additionally, the school has been selected by the Ministry of Science and Technology to be one of the first four regional schools of the country to host a special three-year science classroom program for high school level, grades 10 to 12, according to the proactive human resources development project to upgrade the science and technology capability of the country. The selection of students with high ability in mathematics and science for the science classroom program is carried out by the Institute for the Promotion of Teaching Science and Technology and closely collaborated with Prince of Songkla University. Each student who passes the selection will be entitled to a scholarship from grade 10 onwards, and subjected to certain additional criteria, he/she will be eligible for a scholarship until he/she can complete his/her education up to a doctoral degree level. PSU Wittayanusorn School was accredited with the score 97.02% by the Office of National Education Standards and Quality Assessment on May 26, 2015. Watch http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled. [ANS thanks ARISS, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over Yuri UT1FG is on the move For those who chase Yuri in new grids, I received an update that he has left port in Montreal and is headed to Algiers. [ANS thanks Drew, KO4MA, AMSAT Vice President for Operations for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Joe Spier, K6WAO k6wao at amsat dot org From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Sun Jan 24 07:29:48 2016 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 08:29:48 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR's for satellite work, was: ===> Re: Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <56A2E750.7020203@amsat.org> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050 606@amsat.org> <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> <56A2C2E5.6030709@aei.ca> <56A2E750.7020203@amsat.org> Message-ID: <56A47D6C.2080502@t-online.de> Hi Clayton, You wrote: "The only drawback to the solution was having to swap coax lines between 2m and 70cm. " SatPC32 can optionally control a coax antenna switch (called "transfer switch" as far as I know) that swaps the 2m/70cm antennas between the radios when you switch between v/u and u/v satellites. The DTR pin of the Radio 2 serial port can be used to either feed a CAT interface or to steer the antenna switch (selectable in menu "Options"). Mike, W4UOO, suggested such feature and I added it a few months ago. The feature requires a 1-transistor buffer between the DTR pin and the coax relais. There is an example on my website www.dk1tb.de/AntSwitchIF.jpg 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 23.01.2016 um 03:37 schrieb Clayton W5PFG: > Graham, > > I know you specifically said you prefer Linux, but the solution which > brought me the most success was HDSDR+SatPC32. The two applications > talk together well via CAT and a pair of virtual serial ports. This > gives you full Doppler shift adjustment by computer control. > > My FT-857D was configured as a radio in SatPC32. The FCDP+ was > configured as the other radio in SatPC32. > > If you moved the dial on the radio, there was full, tracking feedback > to SatPC32 and HDSDR. If you tuned on the HDSDR, it adjusted the > radio as well. > > I made several hundred contacts on all the available satellites during > the time I was playing with this in the shack. > > The only drawback to the solution was having to swap coax lines > between 2m and 70cm. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > From n4ufo at yahoo.com Sun Jan 24 12:01:14 2016 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT CW activity day References: <2097716811.441918.1453636874507.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2097716811.441918.1453636874507.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I just wanted to comment that I am very pleased about this recently announced change to the annual New Years event. I have two keys sitting on my desk... A beautiful J-38 straight key that is almost a collectors item with chromed posts and a Kent SP-1 that is finally a key that works for me after going through a number of other paddles. I use the Kent about 99.9 percent of the time... I've modified it slightly by using big sticky rubber feet on the finger piece to make the paddle wider, allowing my finger and thumb better spacing. The J-38 was a gift from a ham in appreciation for something I did that I would have done for anybody. He chose that gift in particular after me telling him how much I miss my Novice J-38 key that I had worlds of fun with as a kid. Especially when I monkey wired the parts for a Tuna Tin 2 onto a terminal strip mounted on one of the base posts. - So you might ask, "Kevin... if you have that wonderful straight key, why don't you pump the brass a little more?" 'I'd love to,' would be my answer. But in the early 2000s I developed a 'repetitive task' type injury... De Quervain Syndrome; think of it as carpal tunnel for the thumb. It meant a lot of pain and the wearing of a brace for 8-12 hours each day... fortunately, sticking to a regimen and avoiding further aggravation I was able to avoid surgery. But you know what that meant? No CW! I pretty much gave up on ham radio at the time... not JUST because of that, but also other life changes. - Now years later, after a cross country move and buying a house, my wife encouraged me to get back into the hobby. And after testing the waters, I found I WAS able to work CW again, but for sure, I had to be careful about what key and what hand position. Long story short, after receiving the gift of the J-38, an attempt to have a ragchew on 80m CW sent me running for my brace... not a good sign. So my J-38 is relegated to being used for tuning and occasionally sending my callsign really, really slow on noisy low bands. I hate that, but I'm very proud of the key and still give it an honored place on my desk. As I said, I can normally use my SP-1 after modification to make my thumb position more compatible... provided no contesting or marathon sessions. (Gets me out of being drafted to the CW tent for the duration of FD!) I've often thought about participating in SKN and just being careful, but I know that once I got going, my exuberance would overcome my better judgement and I'd be digging out the brace and possibly sidelined for a time. (Oh, for those that are out there suggesting keyboard CW... I tried that. My typing is 25 WPM hunt and peck... a respectable speed for that style of typing, but full of errors. I can backspace on the computer, but that doesn't work so well on CW.) If you don't hear me on next year, it will be because of family... as the holidays are a bit of a reclusive time around my house for enjoying each others company. But if there is a lull in the 'family togetherness' I'll be happy to show everyone how well I've adapted from my early days of 'slapper' fist on my Ten Tec single paddle around to finessing the very tight spacing on my Kent with it's subtle and satisfying clicks. (Hard core CW guys will appreciate that last thought.) Inclusion is the backbone of our 'communicator's hobby'... thanks for being flexible with tradition and keeping it alive! 73, Kevin N4UFO ?------------------------------------------------------------------"Control is the need of the fearful mind. Trust is the need of the courageous heart." From wa4hfn at comcast.net Sun Jan 24 14:02:07 2016 From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (wa4hfn at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 5 in em55 award In-Reply-To: <1729510878.8971313.1453643885822.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <993401091.8972852.1453644127423.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Congrats to Steve Kristoff for having worked 5 hams in our grid AI9IN 5 in em55 award #59 Please check out www.starcommgroup.org for the other awards we offer WA4HFN EM55 Damon Runion From planophore at aei.ca Sun Jan 24 13:21:04 2016 From: planophore at aei.ca (Graham) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 13:21:04 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR's for satellite work, was: ===> Re: Yaesu FT-857D In-Reply-To: <56A2E750.7020203@amsat.org> References: <00ac62f0af33ac87d2b083491142324a@etczone.com> <20160122070414.A362.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <56A294D7.7050 606@amsat.org> <56A2AE56.8000402@aei.ca> <56A2C2E5.6030709@aei.ca> <56A2E750.7020203@amsat.org> Message-ID: <56A4CFC0.90500@aei.ca> Clayton, Thank you for posting your comments. These are the sorts of specifics I have been looking for. cheers, Graham ve3gtc On 2016-01-23 02:37, Clayton W5PFG wrote: > Graham, > > I know you specifically said you prefer Linux, but the solution which > brought me the most success was HDSDR+SatPC32. The two applications > talk together well via CAT and a pair of virtual serial ports. This > gives you full Doppler shift adjustment by computer control. > > My FT-857D was configured as a radio in SatPC32. The FCDP+ was > configured as the other radio in SatPC32. > > If you moved the dial on the radio, there was full, tracking feedback > to SatPC32 and HDSDR. If you tuned on the HDSDR, it adjusted the > radio as well. > > I made several hundred contacts on all the available satellites during > the time I was playing with this in the shack. > > The only drawback to the solution was having to swap coax lines > between 2m and 70cm. > > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > > > > On 1/22/2016 18:01, Graham wrote: >> Thank you Stefan (and all), >> >> I think I will put the FCDP+ at the top of my list for now. >> >> Regards software. This has been a bit hit and miss with me for SDR's. >> >> I like SDR# but it is Windoze only. I prefer Linux but use Windows when >> have to. On Linux I have been using GQRX. They all have their pluses and >> minuses but the challenge becomes getting everything to place nice >> together, for example which OS? I like GPREDICT and there are Windows >> and Linux flavours but the FCDP+ software is Windows only (or is it? I >> will have a go look see). >> >> I guess it is time to do some more reading and research. >> >> Glad I didn't get a HackRF. >> >> cheers, Graham ve3gtc >> >> >> >> >> On 2016-01-22 22:59, Stefan Wagener wrote: >>> Hi Graham. >>> >>> If you check online, the HackRF has been a huge disappointment as a >>> receiver for a number of reasons. The airspy is better but at the end >>> it is the FCD Pro+ that will outperform all of them especially with >>> the narrow SAW filters on 2m and 70cm. I had all three and tested them >>> extensively for satellite work. At the end I only kept the FCDplus+. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> Stefan, VE4NSA >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Graham >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> very interesting discussion. >>> >>> Does anyone have any first hand experience using the Airspy SDR >>> http://airspy.com/ >>> >>> It is in the same price range as FCDP+ and a bit more than the >>> SDRPlay. >>> >>> There are so many to choose from with prices all the over the >>> place. I realize that you get what you pay for but sometimes that >>> is not always obvious, for example the HackRF devices are >>> considerably more the SDRPlay/FCDP+/Airspy but as someone >>> commented, lacks front end filtering making them a poorer choice. >>> >>> So far I have been only dabbling with receiving the many >>> satellites now flying about. It has been a long time since I have >>> made any contacts through any of them, that was back in the OSCAR >>> 7/8, RS10/11 era. >>> >>> cheers, Graham ve3gtc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2016-01-22 20:45, Clayton W5PFG wrote: >>> >>> Like others have mentioned here, the $20-25 RTL Dongles have >>> not worked very well for me when combined with a transmitter. >>> The FT-857D/FUNcube DonglePro+ combo worked well for me. Not >>> one of the two RTL dongles was suitable for regular use. I >>> rank the RTL's as a failure for both mode B or J birds without >>> significant additional filters. For simple receive use, >>> they're okay. >>> >>> If compactness was a desire, the FCDP+ would be my choice. >>> However, the SDRPlay mentioned has a lot more bandwidth >>> capability and is reasonably priced from HRO in the states. >>> >>> 73 >>> Clayton >>> W5PFG >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA >>> makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >>> views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: >>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Sun Jan 24 17:11:23 2016 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 17:11:23 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube warehouse changes Message-ID: Hi, There may be a few short outages to the display pages this afternoon, while we do some work on getting the realitime min-max for UKube. If the data looks strange, please do no report it! The data capture will not be affected. 73 Dave, G4DPZ From vimone at alice.it Sun Jan 24 18:06:02 2016 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:06:02 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] headphones switch Message-ID: Hi folks, as i use two radios 1 in HF and the other in VHF/UHF/SHF and also use just 1 headphones, every time i need to unplug the headphones from 1 radio to the other. I there a way to make an homemade headphones switch that i can switch the headphones from one radio to the other without have to always unplug and plug in them? If yes please anybody can point me how to make it? Any help will be really appreciated. 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ********************************** ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** *** 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it *** ********************************* From bobsmacbox at yahoo.com Sun Jan 24 19:01:17 2016 From: bobsmacbox at yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:01:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] headphones switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: W2IHY Iplus can switch 3 radios mics and speakers. I have one if you are interested. Bob - Sent from my iPad > On Jan 24, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Vincenzo Mone wrote: > > Hi folks, > as i use two radios 1 in HF and the other in VHF/UHF/SHF and also use just 1 > headphones, > every time i need to unplug the headphones from 1 radio to the other. > I there a way to make an homemade headphones switch that i can switch the > headphones > from one radio to the other without have to always unplug and plug in them? > If yes please anybody can point me how to make it? > Any help will be really appreciated. > > 73's de Enzo IK8OZV > EasyLog 5 BetaTester > EasyLog PDA BetaTester > WinBollet BetaTester > D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania > Skype: ik8ozv8520 > > > > > ********************************** > ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* > ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** > *** 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it *** > ********************************* > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va6bmj at gmail.com Sun Jan 24 19:05:40 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:05:40 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 1986-01-24: Voyager 2 Flies Past Uranus Message-ID: http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/science/uranus.html This was the first close look at the planet. I don't remember it getting as much attention in the news as the spacecraft's flyby of Saturn in August, 1981. Perhaps it was because the pictures weren't considered to be as spectacular this time, though Uranus is, by no means, less intriguing. For example, it has a ring system as well and the question about why its axis of rotation is located almost in the orbital plane remains unanswered. Later that year, PBS's "Nova" broadcast a documentary about it. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Sun Jan 24 20:18:43 2016 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:18:43 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG/MM active Message-ID: I just had a brief exchange with Yuri, UT1FG on FO-29 at 20:07. He was in FN58. He wasn't hearing very well on that pass but it's very likely because the pass wasn't very favorable to the ship's heading. 73 Clayton W5PFG From martha at amsat.org Sun Jan 24 23:45:50 2016 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 18:45:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed Message-ID: Due to the blizzard that hit the Washington DC area, the AMSAT office will be closed on Monday. -- 73- Martha From PeteW2JV at verizon.net Mon Jan 25 02:59:33 2016 From: PeteW2JV at verizon.net (W2JV) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:59:33 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: "?" menu problem Message-ID: Hi, Pat is having a problem on SATPC32 that I have not encountered, I gave me a few ideas, but I?m just guessing, if anyone has any ideas I would appreciate it, thank you. 73 Peter W2JV From: Patrick Dolan Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:50 PM To: w2jv at amsat.org Subject: FW: "?" menu problem Hi Peter---long time no see! Haven?t seen you since 2015, so Happy New Year! Hope you?re doing well. So, I?m trying to get back into working the birds. As you can see below, having problems with SATPC32. Can?t get into the ??? files. Any insights? Tnx 73 Pat N2IEN I can no longer get into anything from the ??? menu except ?Manual? and ?FAQ?S.? When I select anything else from the ??? menu nothing happens. I was trying to access Doppler.SQF to add some satellites when I encountered this problem. Can you help? Thanks! 73 Pat N2IEN From normanlizeth at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 03:21:22 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 22:21:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AggieSat4 beacon info Message-ID: Not much on the web as I suppose this crew is busy with other things. Dropped them a line. Kind enough to have a fellow pass on beacon freq's, modes and structure of the telemetry packet. Says will check on the 1200 baud modem on 125.43. AGS4 Beacon Bit Order,,, ,,, Name,# of bits,Type,Value Callsign,48,string,WH2XGN Payload Length,8,unsigned char, Packet ID,8,unsigned char,0x09 Unused,16,unsigned short, Battery Pack 1 Voltage,8,unsigned short, Battery Pack 2 Voltage,8,unsigned short, Battery Pack 1 Status,8,unsigned short, Battery Pack 2 Status,8,unsigned short, Solar Panel 1 Current,8,unsigned short, Solar Panel 2 Current,8,unsigned short, Solar Panel 3 Current,8,unsigned short, Solar Panel 4 Current,8,unsigned short, Solar Panel 5 Current,8,unsigned short, Solar Panel 6 Current,8,unsigned short, Acceleration X,32,float, Acceleration Y,32,float, Acceleration Z,32,float, Quaternion 1,32,float, Quaternion 2,32,float, Quaternion 3,32,float, Quaternion 4,32,float, Magnetic Field Strength X,32,float, Magnetic Field Strength Y,32,float, Magnetic Field Strength Z,32,float, Angular Velocity X,32,float, Angular Velocity Y,32,float, Angular Velocity Z,32,float, Torque Coil Current X-axis,32,float, Torque Coil Current Y-axis,32,float, Torque Coil Current Z-axis,32,float, Torque Coil Temperature X-axis,32,float, Torque Coil Temperature Y-axis,32,float, Torque Coil Temperature Z-axis,32,float, Reaction Wheel X Status,1,bool, Reaction Wheel Y Status,1,bool, Reaction Wheel Z Status,1,bool, Torque Coil X Status,1,bool, Torque Coil Y Status,1,bool, Torque Coil Z Status,1,bool, -,2,padding, HDR (436.25),1,bool, LDR 1200 (125.43 MHz),1,bool, LDR 9600 (436.25 MHz),1,bool, Xlink,1,bool, -,4,padding, Camera Status,1,bool, -,7,padding, Sun Sensor Interface Board Status,1,bool, VN-100 Status,1,bool, GPS Board Status,1,bool, -,5,padding, CRC,16,2 byte-CRC, ,,, Total,768,bits, ,96,bytes, From fredcastello at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 04:13:57 2016 From: fredcastello at gmail.com (Fred Castello) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 23:13:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors Message-ID: Please excuse the newbie. I have been receiving signals on SSB, CW, Packet, and FM via just listening for a while now. I am newly back into the satellites as I used to work the high elliptical orbit birds years ago. Let my license lapse and just got it back and upgraded. Now getting the satellite bug again and have really tried researching on the net but am a bit frustrated by the paucity of az-el rotors available. It seems that there are primarily the Yeasu G-5500 type at $700 to $800 or more or make your own and really no in-between. I am looking to have a permanent installation that could track both az and el and preferably be controlled by SatPC32. I am thinking of starting with a small single antenna with both 2m and 70cm on it (i.e. Arrow or other) which would present very low windage. When I initially got re-interested I was imaging a cheap solution with TV rotors but I don?t see any folks doing this and I would prefer not to have to set my antenna solution up every time I want to work the satellites. Am I missing something or could someone point me to an article or reference that I am not aware of? I really appreciate all of the collective experience in this group and thanks for your time! I am using a Kenwood TS 790A without the 1.2 Ghz installed. Best, Fred Castello, KF4FC From AJ9N at aol.com Mon Jan 25 06:21:16 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 01:21:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-25 06:00 UTC Message-ID: <47832.2ba6b14.43d718dc@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-25 06:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand, direct via E29AJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI (***) Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-01-30 11:06:23 UTC 63 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 115 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-25 06:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1019. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 984. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-20 23:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From jsdenis at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 09:38:32 2016 From: jsdenis at gmail.com (Juan Sanchez) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:38:32 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 Message-ID: I'm looking for some information about using some ettus SDR for sat work. I have a B210. What kind of amplifier can I use able to be driven with the 200 mW of the Tx/RX output, better if it's pass trought. My google search was unable to find some ham who has made somethin similar Is ther some similar work with another SDR? I would appreciate any kind of help... I'm a newbie... Thanks a lot. 73 Juan EB2FVT From kevin.w3dad at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 10:06:16 2016 From: kevin.w3dad at gmail.com (A. Kevin Arber) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:06:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Fred, If your working the current crop of LEO sats, then you don't need an AZ/EL setup. Just AZ will do with the Arrow antenna set to about 20 degrees elevation. I control my HD-73 with the Easy Rotor Controller (ERC) using SATPC-32. Very simple and works well with the Arrow. Get you started without too much invested. Kevin/W3DAD On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Fred Castello wrote: > Please excuse the newbie. I have been receiving signals on SSB, CW, > Packet, and FM via just listening for a while now. I am newly back into > the satellites as I used to work the high elliptical orbit birds years > ago. Let my license lapse and just got it back and upgraded. Now getting > the satellite bug again and have really tried researching on the net but am > a bit frustrated by the paucity of az-el rotors available. It seems that > there are primarily the Yeasu G-5500 type at $700 to $800 or more or make > your own and really no in-between. I am looking to have a permanent > installation that could track both az and el and preferably be controlled > by SatPC32. I am thinking of starting with a small single antenna with > both 2m and 70cm on it (i.e. Arrow or other) which would present very low > windage. When I initially got re-interested I was imaging a cheap solution > with TV rotors but I don?t see any folks doing this and I would prefer not > to have to set my antenna solution up every time I want to work the > satellites. Am I missing something or could someone point me to an article > or reference that I am not aware of? I really appreciate all of the > collective experience in this group and thanks for your time! I am using a > Kenwood TS 790A without the 1.2 Ghz installed. > Best, > Fred Castello, KF4FC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From h05ram-k9ldw at usa.net Mon Jan 25 11:32:21 2016 From: h05ram-k9ldw at usa.net (h05ram-k9ldw at usa.net) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:32:21 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors Message-ID: <038uayLfV6624S04.1453721541@web04.cms.usa.net> Hi Frank, I can't seem to locate the article now but there have been hams whom used two of the old Alliance 110's (or similar). The two rotors were mounted on their appropriate axis' by use of homebrew mounts. Usually the elevation rotor's controller is then manually re-tagged to indicate degrees of elevation. That measurement can be accomplished manually using a cheap elevation indicator that can be found at Harbor Freight, though is not required for satellite use. An online search (I prefer startpage) yielded multiple hits including: http://kh6hak.tripod.com/az-el-rotor-control.html Good luck! Lowell K9LDW ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:16:17 PM CST From: Fred Castello To: AMSAT bbs Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors > Please excuse the newbie. I have been receiving signals on SSB, CW, Packet, and FM via just listening for a while now. I am newly back into the satellites as I used to work the high elliptical orbit birds years ago. Let my license lapse and just got it back and upgraded. Now getting the satellite bug again and have really tried researching on the net but am a bit frustrated by the paucity of az-el rotors available. It seems that there are primarily the Yeasu G-5500 type at $700 to $800 or more or make your own and really no in-between. I am looking to have a permanent installation that could track both az and el and preferably be controlled by SatPC32. I am thinking of starting with a small single antenna with both 2m and 70cm on it (i.e. Arrow or other) which would present very low windage. When I initially got re-interested I was imaging a cheap solution with TV rotors but I don?t see any folks doing this and I would prefer not to have to set my antenna solution up every time I want to work the satellites. Am I missing something or could someone point me to an article or reference that I am not aware of? I really appreciate all of the collective experience in this group and thanks for your time! I am using a Kenwood TS 790A without the 1.2 Ghz installed. > Best, > Fred Castello, KF4FC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gjd1958 at verizon.net Mon Jan 25 11:38:55 2016 From: gjd1958 at verizon.net (Greg) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 06:38:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D08139A-AAAD-4AFD-853C-8029C41B373D@verizon.net> Fred, In addition to Kevin?s idea, you might want to consider some home-brew ?eggbeaters.? When I first started on the LEO?s, they worked fine to get into the birds, including the ISS. Won?t outperform a beam many times, but they are efficient for the cost. Greg N3MVF On Jan 25, 2016, at 5:06 AM, A. Kevin Arber wrote: Hi Fred, If you're working the current crop of LEO sats, then you don't need an AZ/EL setup. Just AZ will do with the Arrow antenna set to about 20 degrees elevation. I control my HD-73 with the Easy Rotor Controller (ERC) using SATPC-32. Very simple and works well with the Arrow. Get you started without too much invested. Kevin/W3DAD On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Fred Castello wrote: > Please excuse the newbie. I have been receiving signals on SSB, CW, > Packet, and FM via just listening for a while now. I am newly back into > the satellites as I used to work the high elliptical orbit birds years > ago. Let my license lapse and just got it back and upgraded. Now getting > the satellite bug again and have really tried researching on the net but am > a bit frustrated by the paucity of az-el rotors available. It seems that > there are primarily the Yeasu G-5500 type at $700 to $800 or more or make > your own and really no in-between. I am looking to have a permanent > installation that could track both az and el and preferably be controlled > by SatPC32. I am thinking of starting with a small single antenna with > both 2m and 70cm on it (i.e. Arrow or other) which would present very low > windage. When I initially got re-interested I was imaging a cheap solution > with TV rotors but I don?t see any folks doing this and I would prefer not > to have to set my antenna solution up every time I want to work the > satellites. Am I missing something or could someone point me to an article > or reference that I am not aware of? I really appreciate all of the > collective experience in this group and thanks for your time! I am using a > Kenwood TS 790A without the 1.2 Ghz installed. > Best, > Fred Castello, KF4FC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 12:30:56 2016 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 06:30:56 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: "?" menu problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d1576c$3d694a50$b83bdef0$@GMAIL.COM> Peter, Sounds like his links have gotten broken. Nothing about the version of SatPC32 or Windows he is using, so I would suggest he get the latest version of SatPC32 and install it over the one he has now. 73s, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Hi Kevin, Good point. Yes, we're all getting older and I hope the new format will make it easier for everyone to participate. 73 Ray W2RS From k9jkm at comcast.net Mon Jan 25 13:57:15 2016 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 07:57:15 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901d15778$4c73e210$e55ba630$@net> Hi Fred, > ... starting with a small single antenna with both 2m and 70cm on > it (i.e. Arrow or other) ... I've found that an azimuth-only rotor with a fixed elevation of 20? or so works well enough for most of what I do with LEO satellites. I got my rotor from ebay for $20. It is a primitive setup - manual tracking. Much of the time I prefer using an Arrow antenna. If you are looking for rotor projects there have been two designs published over the past year or so in the AMSAT Journal. Here is some information you can use to find out more about these: The AMSAT store has the printed circuit board for WA8SME's WRAPS inexpensive, portable az-el rotor system. See http://store.amsat.org and look for the "WRAPS Tracker Circuit Board". There is also a link to the article by Mark, WA8SME. Bob, KI4SBL, wrote an article about his homebrew az-el rotor system, "CNCTRK ? A LinuxCNC Based Satellite Tracking System", for the AMSAT Journal. Bob has details of this project and the parts he sells along with a PDF of the article posted on his web site: http://ki4sbl.dodropin.org/CNCTRK/ -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From ns3l at yahoo.com Mon Jan 25 13:47:45 2016 From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. References: <895247481.723410.1453729665459.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <895247481.723410.1453729665459.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all,, Just purchased a IC-9100 with RT Software to program it. Although I'll be using SatPC32 to control things I was wondering what do most of you put in the Satellite memory channels? FM birds?? Is it even worth programming them..? Steve NS3L From kevin.w3dad at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 14:08:56 2016 From: kevin.w3dad at gmail.com (A. Kevin Arber) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:08:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: <1D08139A-AAAD-4AFD-853C-8029C41B373D@verizon.net> References: <1D08139A-AAAD-4AFD-853C-8029C41B373D@verizon.net> Message-ID: Agree about the "Eggbeater" style. When I first returned to the sats I homebrewed a couple and they worked fine. But even better is a Moxin style which provides gain and circular polarization. See Larry Cebik"s article in August 2001 QST. I built these and they worked great for the LEOs. Great for portable too, as are omnidirectional. Kevin/W3DAD On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Greg wrote: > Fred, > > In addition to Kevin?s idea, you might want to consider some home-brew > ?eggbeaters.? When I first started on the LEO?s, they worked fine to get > into the birds, including the ISS. Won?t outperform a beam many times, but > they are efficient for the cost. > > Greg > N3MVF > > On Jan 25, 2016, at 5:06 AM, A. Kevin Arber wrote: > > Hi Fred, > If you're working the current crop of LEO sats, then you don't need an > AZ/EL > setup. Just AZ will do with the Arrow antenna set to about 20 degrees > elevation. I control my HD-73 with the Easy Rotor Controller (ERC) using > SATPC-32. Very simple and works well with the Arrow. Get you started > without too much invested. > Kevin/W3DAD > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Fred Castello > wrote: > > > Please excuse the newbie. I have been receiving signals on SSB, CW, > > Packet, and FM via just listening for a while now. I am newly back into > > the satellites as I used to work the high elliptical orbit birds years > > ago. Let my license lapse and just got it back and upgraded. Now > getting > > the satellite bug again and have really tried researching on the net but > am > > a bit frustrated by the paucity of az-el rotors available. It seems that > > there are primarily the Yeasu G-5500 type at $700 to $800 or more or make > > your own and really no in-between. I am looking to have a permanent > > installation that could track both az and el and preferably be controlled > > by SatPC32. I am thinking of starting with a small single antenna with > > both 2m and 70cm on it (i.e. Arrow or other) which would present very low > > windage. When I initially got re-interested I was imaging a cheap > solution > > with TV rotors but I don?t see any folks doing this and I would prefer > not > > to have to set my antenna solution up every time I want to work the > > satellites. Am I missing something or could someone point me to an > article > > or reference that I am not aware of? I really appreciate all of the > > collective experience in this group and thanks for your time! I am > using a > > Kenwood TS 790A without the 1.2 Ghz installed. > > Best, > > Fred Castello, KF4FC > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From pista01 at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 14:12:36 2016 From: pista01 at gmail.com (Steven Kalmar) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:12:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: <000901d15778$4c73e210$e55ba630$@net> References: <000901d15778$4c73e210$e55ba630$@net> Message-ID: Satnogs has a pretty good AZ/EL rotator design - https://satnogs.org/documentation/hardware/ I'm not sure how well it holds up in a permanent installation. I started building it but ended up making my own design. Steve KD8QWT On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:57 AM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: > Hi Fred, > > > ... starting with a small single antenna with both 2m and 70cm on > > it (i.e. Arrow or other) ... > > I've found that an azimuth-only rotor with a fixed elevation of 20? or so > works well enough for most of what I do with LEO satellites. I got my rotor > from ebay for $20. It is a primitive setup - manual tracking. Much of the > time I prefer using an Arrow antenna. > > If you are looking for rotor projects there have been two designs > published over the past year or so in the AMSAT Journal. Here is some > information you can use to find out more about these: > > The AMSAT store has the printed circuit board for WA8SME's WRAPS > inexpensive, portable az-el rotor system. See http://store.amsat.org and > look for the "WRAPS Tracker Circuit Board". There is also a link to the > article by Mark, WA8SME. > > Bob, KI4SBL, wrote an article about his homebrew az-el rotor system, > "CNCTRK ? A LinuxCNC Based Satellite Tracking System", for the AMSAT > Journal. Bob has details of this project and the parts he sells along with > a PDF of the article posted on his web site: > http://ki4sbl.dodropin.org/CNCTRK/ > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes an act of rebellion." --George Orwell From kb1pvh at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 14:38:31 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:38:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. In-Reply-To: <895247481.723410.1453729665459.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <895247481.723410.1453729665459.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <895247481.723410.1453729665459.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve, Personally I feel it's a waste of time to program satellite memories into the radio if you have SatPC32. The only memories programmed in my 9100 is DSTAR repeaters. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 From normanlizeth at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 14:48:52 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:48:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome to the club! This is on the bleeding edge. Not all versions of code work. The Mitsubishi RF amp chips can be biased to do FM or SSB. ( Non-linear or linear respectivley) I'll take better video of the shack later. See youtube for my new efforts in this media. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Juan Sanchez wrote: > I'm looking for some information about using some ettus SDR for sat work. I > have a B210. What kind of amplifier can I use able to be driven with the > 200 mW of the Tx/RX output, better if it's pass trought. My google search > was unable to find some ham who has made somethin similar > Is ther some similar work with another SDR? > I would appreciate any kind of help... I'm a newbie... > Thanks a lot. > 73 > Juan > EB2FVT > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From normanlizeth at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 14:57:38 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:57:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: References: <000901d15778$4c73e210$e55ba630$@net> Message-ID: Check out K3NG's rotator. Direct replacement for the LVB tracker, or build the control box around it, as well. So far I've built 5. One is a G-5400 portable with GPS and the other (s) drive the G-5500. One version took 2.5 hours. Did take a shortcut there. Cut the tail off the LVB tracker. No cable to build! Two sit on the bench. Plug either one into a control box and satpc32, then track the birds!! Building the actual rotators is a pain. Very doable, though. Have one in the corner. Bought Geckodrives because all others are fodder for the dumpster. Anything real needs (moderately) big gear reduction drives. Alibaba is yor friend. LVB tracker replacement=35$ or less + enclosure. See Youtube. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Steven Kalmar wrote: > Satnogs has a pretty good AZ/EL rotator design - > https://satnogs.org/documentation/hardware/ > > I'm not sure how well it holds up in a permanent installation. I started > building it but ended up making my own design. > > > Steve > KD8QWT > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:57 AM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: > >> Hi Fred, >> >> > ... starting with a small single antenna with both 2m and 70cm on >> > it (i.e. Arrow or other) ... >> >> I've found that an azimuth-only rotor with a fixed elevation of 20? or so >> works well enough for most of what I do with LEO satellites. I got my rotor >> from ebay for $20. It is a primitive setup - manual tracking. Much of the >> time I prefer using an Arrow antenna. >> >> If you are looking for rotor projects there have been two designs >> published over the past year or so in the AMSAT Journal. Here is some >> information you can use to find out more about these: >> >> The AMSAT store has the printed circuit board for WA8SME's WRAPS >> inexpensive, portable az-el rotor system. See http://store.amsat.org and >> look for the "WRAPS Tracker Circuit Board". There is also a link to the >> article by Mark, WA8SME. >> >> Bob, KI4SBL, wrote an article about his homebrew az-el rotor system, >> "CNCTRK ? A LinuxCNC Based Satellite Tracking System", for the AMSAT >> Journal. Bob has details of this project and the parts he sells along with >> a PDF of the article posted on his web site: >> http://ki4sbl.dodropin.org/CNCTRK/ >> >> -- >> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM >> k9jkm at amsat.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > > > -- > "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes an act of > rebellion." > --George Orwell > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4hfn at comcast.net Mon Jan 25 15:07:28 2016 From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (wa4hfn at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Hamcation and update on Special event Project Diana In-Reply-To: <0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d3ac2e90269.20160125145952@mail8.atl161.mcsv.net> References: <0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d3ac2e90269.20160125145952@mail8.atl161.mcsv.net> Message-ID: <1794087791.9429367.1453734448878.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "W5KUB.com" To: "Damon Reunion" Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:00:28 AM Subject: Hamcation and update on Special event Project Diana http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=417c8b6638&e=3ac2e90269 W5KUB.COM watched in over 150 countries ** Amateur Radio Roundtable ------------------------------------------------------------ ** Subject: Hamcation and Project Diana-70 Anniversary ------------------------------------------------------------ On this week's Amateur Radio Roundtable show (January 26th) we will have 2 segments. The first segment guest will be Peter Meijers, AI4KM (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=0be0547e8c&e=3ac2e90269) , chairman of Orlando HamCation 2016 (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=31892081bb&e=3ac2e90269) , a very large hamfest which will bbe held Feb 12-14. Our second segment guest will be Jeff Harshman, N2LXM (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=9097e8823a&e=3ac2e90269) , and Martin Flynn, W2RWJ (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=9565d11a5c&e=3ac2e90269) , providing an update on the recent Project Diana, 70th Anniversary (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=c3e95c740c&e=3ac2e90269) special event. They made a number of contacts and demonstrations of EME celebrating the 70th anniversary of the first U.S. Army bouncing a signal off the moon. Be sure to send your FCC related questions to Riley Hollingsworth, K4ZDH (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=e2b8af5311&e=3ac2e90269) , to AskRiley at w5kub.com (mailto:askriley at w5kub.com?subject=Question%20for%20Riley) . Riley retired from the FCC?s Compliance and Information Bureau as Legal Adviser for Enforcement Program. He will be answering your questions every few weeks on our "Ask Riley" segment Remember our show is also simulcast on international shortwave radio station WBCQ (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=45980731ef&e=3ac2e90269) out of Monticello, ME on 5110 KHz, Please send a signal report to tom at w5kub.com (mailto:tom at w5kub.com?subject=Shortwave%20Radio%20Report) . Amateur Radio Roundtable is a live weekly amateur radio webcast, held every Tuesday night at 8 PM CT (0200 UTC Wednesday) at W5KUB.com (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=ba8474f493&e=3ac2e90269) . The show covers a wide range of topics for ham radio operators and electronic hobbyists; including balloon launches, satellite, go-kits, emergency communications, SDR, digital modes, DXing, home brewing, hamfest updates, and more. We also want to grow our shortwave listener base and will be including programs that interest those listeners as well. Viewers will have the opportunity to ask questions via the chat room or telephone. Towards the end of each show, we provide a link and viewers who have a camera, microphone, and a Google+ account, can join the show. Your video and audio will be on the webcast. This part of the show is very informal and up to 10 people can join. We talk about anything the viewers want to discuss. If you have a specific subject idea for a future show, send an email to tom at w5kub.com (mailto:tom at w5kub.com?subject=Idea%20for%20future%20show) . Forward this message to a Friend (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=1cc33fbed8&e=3ac2e90269) will allow you to share this message with your friends. If you missed last weeks show, you can click HERE (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=e7937246e1&e=3ac2e90269) to watch it on W5KUB's YouTube channel. Join us for fun and interesting discussions! Tom Medlin, W5KUB (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=7d8560eb87&e=3ac2e90269) http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=28aa4b4ea1&e=3ac2e90269 http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=46cdccaa80&e=3ac2e90269 HamCation in Orlando, Florida http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=36a1a75571&e=3ac2e90269 Project Diana ============================================================ ** Facebook (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=5d68673d4a&e=3ac2e90269) ** Facebook (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=849bf690f8&e=3ac2e90269) ** Twitter (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=007bcbbf51&e=3ac2e90269) ** Twitter (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=a80e21423f&e=3ac2e90269) ** Website (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=adf54f12f5&e=3ac2e90269) ** Website (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=b2ce76b6a8&e=3ac2e90269) ** Email (mailto:tom at W5KUB.com) ** Email (mailto:tom at W5KUB.com) ** YouTube (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=1d126cc2b2&e=3ac2e90269) ** YouTube (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=a0fb1479b8&e=3ac2e90269) This email was sent to wa4hfn at comcast.net (mailto:wa4hfn at comcast.net) why did I get this? (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage.com/about?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=fbfc40555c&e=3ac2e90269&c=2d8e1dc8c0) unsubscribe from this list (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage1.com/unsubscribe?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=fbfc40555c&e=3ac2e90269&c=2d8e1dc8c0) update subscription preferences (http://w5kub.us10.list-manage1.com/profile?u=0d5cdae05233f79e11025a75d&id=fbfc40555c&e=3ac2e90269) W5KUB.com Webcast . 3060 Country Place Dr E . Collierville, TN - Tennessee 38017 . USA From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Mon Jan 25 15:47:28 2016 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:47:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56A64390.2040506@burlingtontelecom.net> Hi Juan, You didn't mention specific frequencies, so I assume 2M and 70 cm. Building appears to be the way to go, if you can. I'd probably use the Mitsubishi H2/H2S series of bricks. They come in various power levels up to about 60 watts with the drive requirements you're looking for. See RF Parts www.rfparts.com and select the power module section. For interfacing, check out Jim, W6PQL's boards. http://www.w6pql.com/parts_i_can_provide.htm Scroll down to the MosFet Module Amplifier kit. Mike > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Juan Sanchez wrote: >> I'm looking for some information about using some ettus SDR for sat work. I >> have a B210. What kind of amplifier can I use able to be driven with the >> 200 mW of the Tx/RX output, better if it's pass trought. My google search >> was unable to find some ham who has made somethin similar >> Is ther some similar work with another SDR? >> I would appreciate any kind of help... I'm a newbie... >> Thanks a lot. >> 73 >> Juan >> EB2FVT -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From jerryconn at aol.com Mon Jan 25 16:46:23 2016 From: jerryconn at aol.com (Jerry Conner) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:46:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: References: <1D08139A-AAAD-4AFD-853C-8029C41B373D@verizon.net> Message-ID: I was wondering about the Lindenblad antennas. I live in an area where winter conditions aren't always conducive to going outside and working the Sats and eventually want to have an Az/El system but until the time and money are available I was considering building this style of antenna. Does anybody have experience and/or recommendations? Thanks Jerry W4JWC -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of A. Kevin Arber Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:09 AM To: Greg Cc: AMSAT bbs ; Fred Castello Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors Agree about the "Eggbeater" style. When I first returned to the sats I homebrewed a couple and they worked fine. But even better is a Moxin style which provides gain and circular polarization. See Larry Cebik"s article in August 2001 QST. I built these and they worked great for the LEOs. Great for portable too, as are omnidirectional. Kevin/W3DAD On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Greg wrote: > Fred, > > In addition to Kevin?s idea, you might want to consider some home-brew > ?eggbeaters.? When I first started on the LEO?s, they worked fine to > get into the birds, including the ISS. Won?t outperform a beam many > times, but they are efficient for the cost. > > Greg > N3MVF > > On Jan 25, 2016, at 5:06 AM, A. Kevin Arber wrote: > > Hi Fred, > If you're working the current crop of LEO sats, then you don't need an > AZ/EL setup. Just AZ will do with the Arrow antenna set to about 20 > degrees elevation. I control my HD-73 with the Easy Rotor Controller > (ERC) using SATPC-32. Very simple and works well with the Arrow. > Get you started without too much invested. > Kevin/W3DAD > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Fred Castello > > wrote: > > > Please excuse the newbie. I have been receiving signals on SSB, CW, > > Packet, and FM via just listening for a while now. I am newly back > > into the satellites as I used to work the high elliptical orbit > > birds years ago. Let my license lapse and just got it back and > > upgraded. Now > getting > > the satellite bug again and have really tried researching on the net > > but > am > > a bit frustrated by the paucity of az-el rotors available. It seems > > that there are primarily the Yeasu G-5500 type at $700 to $800 or > > more or make your own and really no in-between. I am looking to > > have a permanent installation that could track both az and el and > > preferably be controlled by SatPC32. I am thinking of starting with > > a small single antenna with both 2m and 70cm on it (i.e. Arrow or > > other) which would present very low windage. When I initially got > > re-interested I was imaging a cheap > solution > > with TV rotors but I don?t see any folks doing this and I would > > prefer > not > > to have to set my antenna solution up every time I want to work the > > satellites. Am I missing something or could someone point me to an > article > > or reference that I am not aware of? I really appreciate all of the > > collective experience in this group and thanks for your time! I am > using a > > Kenwood TS 790A without the 1.2 Ghz installed. > > Best, > > Fred Castello, KF4FC > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kayakfishtx at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 17:13:10 2016 From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:13:10 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am not a fan of omni antennas for the current LEO satellites. The eggbeater or moxons are marginal performers at best. Short, quality feedlines and RX preamps are good ways to minimize ineffectiveness of omnis but there's no silver bullet. If you have no other choice but omnis, you may find yourself limited to certain satellites and certain passes. SO-50, for example, is not going to be favorable. Compensating for lack of hearing ability by running full power won't make you many friends. Working satellites on an almost daily basis, one can often identify an eggbeater or omni user by their inability to hear a very strong signal from the satellite. As previously mentioned, a set of small yagis at a fixed elevation with an azimuth rotor will yield far better results. The trick is not using longer, high-gain yagis. You'll have more beam width with smaller ones. Considering what many stations achieve with an Arrow or Elk antenna (7,000+ km contacts,) bigger isn't always better. Omnis are okay as long as you understand the shortcomings. 73 Clayton W5PFG From johnki4ro at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 17:20:19 2016 From: johnki4ro at gmail.com (John KI4RO) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:20:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu Message-ID: Well, I'm not much of an expert on Linux/Ubuntu and hoping for some help here; ARRL hasn't been much help yet. I got TQSL out of the Ubuntu Software Center; it downloaded and installed just fine. I was under the impression that, having installed it that way, updates would be installed as they became available but apparently that is not the case. I've gone to the site and downloaded the appropriate tar.gz file and unpacked it but I don't know what to do with it now. I've tried the make command and such as specified on other sites but they don't seem able to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated! 73 John KI4RO From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon Jan 25 17:24:00 2016 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <191220837.10469290.1453742640106.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Fred- Get a elchepo rotor, point the antenna up at about 25 degrees, and you're good to go. Also check out Norms Rotor Service http://www.rotorservice.com/prod1%20rotor%20sales.htm Check out hamfests for Alliance U100 rotors. In my opinion stay away from egg beaters, they're sort of ok, but many people usually "graduate" to yagi's. Good luck 73 Bob w7LRD Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Castello" To: "AMSAT bbs" Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 8:13:57 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors Please excuse the newbie. I have been receiving signals on SSB, CW, Packet, and FM via just listening for a while now. I am newly back into the satellites as I used to work the high elliptical orbit birds years ago. Let my license lapse and just got it back and upgraded. Now getting the satellite bug again and have really tried researching on the net but am a bit frustrated by the paucity of az-el rotors available. It seems that there are primarily the Yeasu G-5500 type at $700 to $800 or more or make your own and really no in-between. I am looking to have a permanent installation that could track both az and el and preferably be controlled by SatPC32. I am thinking of starting with a small single antenna with both 2m and 70cm on it (i.e. Arrow or other) which would present very low windage. When I initially got re-interested I was imaging a cheap solution with TV rotors but I don?t see any folks doing this and I would prefer not to have to set my antenna solution up every time I want to work the satellites. Am I missing something or could someone point me to an article or reference that I am not aware of? I really appreciate all of the collective experience in this group and thanks for your time! I am using a Kenwood TS 790A without the 1.2 Ghz installed. Best, Fred Castello, KF4FC _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Jan 25 17:41:00 2016 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:41:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: <191220837.10469290.1453742640106.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <191220837.10469290.1453742640106.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: The gain is needed near the horizon, not so much higher up where the satellite is 6 to 10 dB closer. Up at 25 degrees you wont have as much gain on the satellites down at 10 degrees and lower where over 30% of all passes are below 10 degrees. We suggest a 15 degree up-tilt: see http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html Of course, if your antenna cannot see down below 10 degrees due to your local horizon, then conversly, dont put the gain there, in that case, a higher angle is OK.. Bob, WB4APR On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > Fred- Get a elchepo rotor, point the antenna up at about 25 degrees, and > you're good to go. Also check out Norms Rotor Service > http://www.rotorservice.com/prod1%20rotor%20sales.htm > Check out hamfests for Alliance U100 rotors. In my opinion stay away from > egg beaters, they're sort of ok, but many people usually "graduate" to > yagi's. > Good luck > 73 Bob w7LRD > Seattle > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Fred Castello" > To: "AMSAT bbs" > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 8:13:57 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors > > Please excuse the newbie. I have been receiving signals on SSB, CW, > Packet, and FM via just listening for a while now. I am newly back into the > satellites as I used to work the high elliptical orbit birds years ago. Let > my license lapse and just got it back and upgraded. Now getting the > satellite bug again and have really tried researching on the net but am a > bit frustrated by the paucity of az-el rotors available. It seems that > there are primarily the Yeasu G-5500 type at $700 to $800 or more or make > your own and really no in-between. I am looking to have a permanent > installation that could track both az and el and preferably be controlled > by SatPC32. I am thinking of starting with a small single antenna with both > 2m and 70cm on it (i.e. Arrow or other) which would present very low > windage. When I initially got re-interested I was imaging a cheap solution > with TV rotors but I don?t see any folks doing this and I would prefer not > to have to set my antenna solution up every time I want to work the > satellites. Am I missing something or could someone point me to an article > or reference that I am not aware of? I really appreciate all of the > collective experience in this group and thanks for your time! I am using a > Kenwood TS 790A without the 1.2 Ghz installed. > Best, > Fred Castello, KF4FC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon Jan 25 18:03:00 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:03:00 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 Message-ID: <201601251803.u0PI31aY026209@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Juan, You are probably going to have to build an amplifier, but many RF modules only require 40mw drive. I am building 80w 2m amplifiers using the Toshiba S-VA36: http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm Other modules in that line such as S-VA10H outputs up to 14w. They all require pretty much the same pc board. I am using the board made by W6PQL which costs $17.50 without parts. Parts for the 80w amp are listed on Mouser as a special project which is linked from: http://www.w6pql.com/2_meter_80w_all_mode_amplifier.htm If you did not want 80w output one could substitute the 10, 25, or 50w RF modules: https://www.rfparts.com/module/rfpower-mosfet.html Not sure what you mean by "pass through" unless you mean an amp that bypasses for Receive. The W6PQL does that and has ckt for RF sensed keying in transmit or external PTT. I've enhanced the design with addition of power output metering and temp-controlled cooling fan. But building in limited quantities means the parts are not cheap. 73, Ed - KL7UW -------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:38:32 +0100 From: Juan Sanchez To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm looking for some information about using some ettus SDR for sat work. I have a B210. What kind of amplifier can I use able to be driven with the 200 mW of the Tx/RX output, better if it's pass trought. My google search was unable to find some ham who has made somethin similar Is ther some similar work with another SDR? I would appreciate any kind of help... I'm a newbie... Thanks a lot. 73 Juan EB2FVT 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From danielgrinkevich at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 18:15:20 2016 From: danielgrinkevich at gmail.com (Daniel J. Grinkevich) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:15:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The INSTALL file contains instructions on how to build. You'll need to apt-get all the libraries TQSL requires (libssl-dev, libexpat1-dev, zlib1g-dev, libdb-dev, libwxgtk2.8-dev, and libcurl4-openssl-dev) then run 'cmake .' and 'make' as noted in the instructions. Hope this helps. Dan W2GRK On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:20 PM, John KI4RO wrote: > Well, I'm not much of an expert on Linux/Ubuntu and hoping for some help > here; ARRL hasn't been much help yet. > I got TQSL out of the Ubuntu Software Center; it downloaded and installed > just fine. I was under the impression that, having installed it that way, > updates would be installed as they became available but apparently that is > not the case. > I've gone to the site and downloaded the appropriate tar.gz file and > unpacked it but I don't know what to do with it now. I've tried the make > command and such as specified on other sites but they don't seem able to > work. > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > 73 > John KI4RO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- --- GPG Key: 0x160B24D1C08FB4E4 From va6bmj at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 18:23:16 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:23:16 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 1/25/16, John KI4RO wrote: > Well, I'm not much of an expert on Linux/Ubuntu and hoping for some help > here; ARRL hasn't been much help yet. > I got TQSL out of the Ubuntu Software Center; it downloaded and installed > just fine. I was under the impression that, having installed it that way, > updates would be installed as they became available but apparently that is > not the case. > I've gone to the site and downloaded the appropriate tar.gz file and > unpacked it but I don't know what to do with it now. I've tried the make > command and such as specified on other sites but they don't seem able to > work. > Any help would be greatly appreciated! It's been years since I used Ubuntu, so I might be talking about something that no longer applies. If I recall correctly, USC should download and install software automatically. I don't know if one has the option of downloading only the files and then installing it by hand. Perhaps you can check this. I use openSUSE and its software manager does all that for me after I click on the right box and tell it to go ahead. I was under the impression that Ubuntu did the same thing. OK, assuming that what I just suggested isn't applicable, installing software is often easier than it first appears. First, after you've unpacked the files, check for one that's labelled "README" or something like that. Often, these packages include them and they usually have instructions on how to install the program. If it exists, open it and follow the instructions. Failing that, look in the TQSL directory for files that are labelled "make" or something similar. (There should also be some "install" files there as well.) Those should have the scripts by which the machine does the installation. If they're there, then, if I remember correctly, get into the directory where they are and then try the following: make config (that might be required to set options on what needs to be installed) make install clean (this is the main one which starts the process) Once that begins, let the machine continue, though you might have to respond to some queries about what to do next. Assuming that everything goes well and the installation is complete, look for an icon in a menu or on the desktop which points to TQSL. Click on that and the program should launch. If there isn't an icon, then open a terminal window and type in "tqsl" or a variation on that. That should start the software. (If this is actually the case, try to create a launcher specifically for TQSL.) Let me know what happens. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From johnki4ro at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 18:25:02 2016 From: johnki4ro at gmail.com (John KI4RO) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:25:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Daniel, Thanks for the quick response. That's where the confusion sets in. I don't understand why I have to do all that "stuff" if TQSL is already running on my system. Shouldn't there be an easier way? 73 John 73 John KI4RO On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Daniel J. Grinkevich < danielgrinkevich at gmail.com> wrote: > The INSTALL file contains instructions on how to build. You'll need to > apt-get all the libraries TQSL requires (libssl-dev, libexpat1-dev, > zlib1g-dev, libdb-dev, libwxgtk2.8-dev, and libcurl4-openssl-dev) then run > 'cmake .' and 'make' as noted in the instructions. > > Hope this helps. > > Dan > W2GRK > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:20 PM, John KI4RO wrote: > >> Well, I'm not much of an expert on Linux/Ubuntu and hoping for some help >> here; ARRL hasn't been much help yet. >> I got TQSL out of the Ubuntu Software Center; it downloaded and installed >> just fine. I was under the impression that, having installed it that way, >> updates would be installed as they became available but apparently that is >> not the case. >> I've gone to the site and downloaded the appropriate tar.gz file and >> unpacked it but I don't know what to do with it now. I've tried the make >> command and such as specified on other sites but they don't seem able to >> work. >> Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> >> 73 >> John KI4RO >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > > > -- > --- > GPG Key: 0x160B24D1C08FB4E4 > > From va6bmj at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 18:27:18 2016 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:27:18 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 1/25/16, Daniel J. Grinkevich wrote: > The INSTALL file contains instructions on how to build. You'll need to > apt-get all the libraries TQSL requires (libssl-dev, libexpat1-dev, > zlib1g-dev, libdb-dev, libwxgtk2.8-dev, and libcurl4-openssl-dev) then run > 'cmake .' and 'make' as noted in the instructions. Come to think of it, you might be right. I assumed that everything that was needed for installing TQSL was already in place. The last time I installed Gpredict by hand, the computer said rude things about me not having certain libraries and other extra stuff. Once I installed those, I could proceed with setting up Gpredict. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon Jan 25 18:38:39 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:38:39 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors Message-ID: <201601251838.u0PIcdH6007815@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> I agree with JoAnne: Put up a small yagi fixed in elevation at 15-30 degrees with a cheap antenna rotator for azimuth (Alliance HD73 or similar) and you will be in business without the $700 cost of az-el. Even mounting an Arrow this way is good to have hands-free operation. I built a pair of Lindenblad antennas, which was an interesting project, and they worked OK. But I missed having the gain of a yagi system for stronger reception of the sats (my old system was rated for AO-40). I have taken down my Lindenblads. I've acquired a replacement controller for my Yaesu B5400 and will re-install part of (26-elements) of my M2 436CP42 and have a 7-element M2 2m yagi on a short tower with the B5400. Probably will not get to this until spring. You can see what I have done here: http://www.kl7uw.com/sat.htm 73, Ed - KL7UW From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" To: "'AMSAT bbs'" Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors Message-ID: <000901d15778$4c73e210$e55ba630$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Fred, > ... starting with a small single antenna with both 2m and 70cm on > it (i.e. Arrow or other) ... I've found that an azimuth-only rotor with a fixed elevation of 20? or so works well enough for most of what I do with LEO satellites. I got my rotor from ebay for $20. It is a primitive setup - manual tracking. Much of the time I prefer using an Arrow antenna. If you are looking for rotor projects there have been two designs published over the past year or so in the AMSAT Journal. Here is some information you can use to find out more about these: The AMSAT store has the printed circuit board for WA8SME's WRAPS inexpensive, portable az-el rotor system. See http://store.amsat.org and look for the "WRAPS Tracker Circuit Board". There is also a link to the article by Mark, WA8SME. Bob, KI4SBL, wrote an article about his homebrew az-el rotor system, "CNCTRK ? A LinuxCNC Based Satellite Tracking System", for the AMSAT Journal. Bob has details of this project and the parts he sells along with a PDF of the article posted on his web site: http://ki4sbl.dodropin.org/CNCTRK/ -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From zleffke at vt.edu Mon Jan 25 18:43:20 2016 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:43:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 In-Reply-To: <201601251803.u0PI31aY026209@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201601251803.u0PI31aY026209@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <56A66CC8.8060201@vt.edu> We are using Ettus N210s in the Virginia Tech Ground Station, similar problem in needing a few tens of watts out for 100mW or less in (We also use B210s for prototyping). Keep in mind that though the ettus datasheet may say 200 mW output for the B210, it is a frequency dependent parameter. So their sales brochure will quote the highest value achieved, which doesn't necessarily mean at 2m or 70cm you will achieve the same output power. Also, generally with these products you'll want to back off the tx gain parameter to avoid signal distortion that may occur at higher gains (and thus closer to the final output power). In my experience 50mW-100mW is a reasonable guess for a decent power level that can be achieved without significant signal distortion (lower is better if you can afford it). I looked into the Toshiba Module solution mentioned, and it is a pretty decent solution, but my problem with it was filtering. Those modules are great but have pretty bad third harmonic and spur rejection. This means that final stage filtering will be required to stay within FCC limits (I think -60 dBc is the requirement, can't remember off the top of my head). The W6PQL reference is fantastic and is closer to a good solution because he has the filtering problem solved in his designs (you may have to get the filter board separate for the 70cm design, I think he includes a filter in the 80W 2m Amp design). For the budget conscious, this is the path I would recommend. I would probably look into using the Toshiba modules with lower output power (single digit Watts) as a driver for something like a Mirage Amp (that I think has the final stage filtering built in). For our final design at the VT ground station, we settled on Kuhne amplifiers. A lot pricier than the Toshiba Module solution (though on the same order as say a Mirage amp), but they have good filtering and require around 50-100 mW to achieve full drive (60W out) and no intermediate amps required. (We want lots of TX power for command and control reasons to have plenty of margin on the uplink, for normal operations we'll be way down in the single digit Watts output power area)/ Search these model numbers on the kuhne website (http://www.kuhne-electronic.de/en/home.html) for the product pages: 2m Model: MKU PA 2M-60W HY 70cm Model : MKU PA 70CM-60W HY 23cm Model: MKU PA 23CM-100W A (Note, the 23cm Module requires 500mW drive for full 100W out, I'll be looking into getting some minicircuits amps to provide a gain stage between the USRP and the Kuhne Module. We will primarily be using this for EME work though where we want the full drive. For sat work we will be way down from 100W output power so we don't blast any foxes out of orbit, Hi Hi :-) ) I can't tell you if this is a good plan or not yet because we are in the processes of assembling the amplifier decks this semester. A HUGE part of that process will be testing the amplifiers with the Ettus USRPs to characterize final power levels, signal distortion, and making sure we meet FCC requirements, etc. Also this semester we hope to get our website up and running where we will then post this kind of performance data, so stay tuned for that. Hope this helps, Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 1/25/2016 1:03 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > Juan, > > You are probably going to have to build an amplifier, but many RF > modules only require 40mw drive. I am building 80w 2m amplifiers > using the Toshiba S-VA36: > http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm > > Other modules in that line such as S-VA10H outputs up to 14w. They all > require pretty much the same pc board. I am using the board made by > W6PQL which costs $17.50 without parts. Parts for the 80w amp are > listed on Mouser as a special project which is linked from: > http://www.w6pql.com/2_meter_80w_all_mode_amplifier.htm > > If you did not want 80w output one could substitute the 10, 25, or 50w > RF modules: > https://www.rfparts.com/module/rfpower-mosfet.html > > Not sure what you mean by "pass through" unless you mean an amp that > bypasses for Receive. The W6PQL does that and has ckt for RF sensed > keying in transmit or external PTT. I've enhanced the design with > addition of power output metering and temp-controlled cooling fan. > > But building in limited quantities means the parts are not cheap. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > -------------- > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:38:32 +0100 > From: Juan Sanchez > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I'm looking for some information about using some ettus SDR for sat > work. I > have a B210. What kind of amplifier can I use able to be driven with the > 200 mW of the Tx/RX output, better if it's pass trought. My google search > was unable to find some ham who has made somethin similar > Is ther some similar work with another SDR? > I would appreciate any kind of help... I'm a newbie... > Thanks a lot. > 73 > Juan > EB2FVT > > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rjlawn at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 18:44:27 2016 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:44:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 9100 satellite memories Message-ID: I'm not sure you even need to both with this since you are using SatPC32 as many of us do. I don't bother. 73 Rick, W2JAZ -- Sent from Gmail Mobile From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 19:34:40 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:34:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb? Message-ID: I have never seen this on any other mailing list. Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except amsat-bb? If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find if it's across multiple threads. Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread read as opposed to two or three other threads. If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it is common practice to change the subject like so: How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb?) 73, John, KG4AKV From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon Jan 25 19:56:31 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:56:31 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 Message-ID: <201601251956.u0PJuW6p031471@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> =======snip I looked into the Toshiba Module solution mentioned, and it is a pretty decent solution, but my problem with it was filtering. Those modules are great but have pretty bad third harmonic and spur rejection. This means that final stage filtering will be required to stay within FCC limits (I think -60 dBc is the requirement, can't remember off the top of my head). The W6PQL reference is fantastic and is closer to a good solution because he has the filtering problem solved in his designs (you may have to get the filter board separate for the 70cm design, I think he includes a filter in the 80W 2m Amp design). For the budget conscious, this is the path I would recommend. I would probably look into using the Toshiba modules with lower output power (single digit Watts) as a driver for something like a Mirage Amp (that I think has the final stage filtering built in). ====snip The W6PQL board is wide-band and one only needs to use proper value bypass capacitors and wind coils for 435-MHz. Not saying that is trivial but that is all that would be needed for filtering using that pc board. In the past others made generic pc boards for using the Toshiba modules. This is going to require some engineering to accomplish or you can spend big bucks and go the Kuhne Engineering route. I assume anyone using the Ettus B210 is willing to do that. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From burns at fisher.cc Mon Jan 25 20:44:01 2016 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:44:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So let's give this a try. I did a reply to all from gmail and it is sending both to you directly and also to the bb. I seldom have this problem, but I suspect 2 or three variants of reasons: 1) The mail client you use employs something other than the subject to group conversations. 2) The mail client someone else uses does not keep the thread number 3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire digest. My ideas anyway. See if mine comes in the same conversation for you... Burns On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John Brier wrote: > I have never seen this on any other mailing list. > > Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the > user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to > send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to > "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except > amsat-bb? > > If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who > search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find > if it's across multiple threads. > > Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a > conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not > interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread > read as opposed to two or three other threads. > > If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it > is common practice to change the subject like so: > > How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads > when replying to a post on amsat-bb?) > > 73, > > John, KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wouterweg at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 20:45:00 2016 From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:45:00 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: John, The main problem that I have seen with threads is that some people are just utterly unaware of the existence of threads. I have seem people even "recycling" threads that happen to have the right addressees in them. So pressing reply all and then changing the subject. They are just blissfully unaware of how that is displayed on E-mail clients post 1990. One other thing that happens to me a lot: people who are asking me a question in a thread with a completely unrelated subject. Often, I have just deleted the thread, because that's what I do. If the message is not about the subject, chances are that I have just deleted it. Example: someone asking a technical question in a thread that has subject "activation of grid XYZ" wil not be seen by me, because I do not care about grids and delete all email with subjects related to grids. Nothing against sending grid emails though, just to be sure that I don't upset someone. Anyway, you may be attempting to herd coconuts, but maybe someone will take notice. Wouter PA3WEG On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:34 PM, John Brier wrote: > I have never seen this on any other mailing list. > > Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the > user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to > send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to > "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except > amsat-bb? > > If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who > search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find > if it's across multiple threads. > > Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a > conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not > interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread > read as opposed to two or three other threads. > > If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it > is common practice to change the subject like so: > > How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads > when replying to a post on amsat-bb?) > > 73, > > John, KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 20:57:11 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:57:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is a legitimate reason: 3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire digest. There is no easy way around this, but it is helpful to try and use the same exact subject by copying and pasting. It's not on my end, most emails are threaded fine. Anyway, as someone has said off list, this is not likely to change everyone's behavior. It's just a slight pet peeve. John, KG4AKV On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > So let's give this a try. I did a reply to all from gmail and it is sending > both to you directly and also to the bb. > > I seldom have this problem, but I suspect 2 or three variants of reasons: > > 1) The mail client you use employs something other than the subject to group > conversations. > > 2) The mail client someone else uses does not keep the thread number > > 3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail > message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire > digest. > > My ideas anyway. See if mine comes in the same conversation for you... > > Burns > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John Brier wrote: >> >> I have never seen this on any other mailing list. >> >> Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the >> user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to >> send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to >> "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except >> amsat-bb? >> >> If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who >> search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find >> if it's across multiple threads. >> >> Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a >> conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not >> interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread >> read as opposed to two or three other threads. >> >> If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it >> is common practice to change the subject like so: >> >> How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads >> when replying to a post on amsat-bb?) >> >> 73, >> >> John, KG4AKV >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From bobsmacbox at yahoo.com Mon Jan 25 21:14:23 2016 From: bobsmacbox at yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:14:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will try to be more diligent NZ2Z/Bob - Sent from my iPad > On Jan 25, 2016, at 3:57 PM, John Brier wrote: > > This is a legitimate reason: > > 3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail > message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the > entire digest. > > There is no easy way around this, but it is helpful to try and use the > same exact subject by copying and pasting. > > It's not on my end, most emails are threaded fine. > > Anyway, as someone has said off list, this is not likely to change > everyone's behavior. It's just a slight pet peeve. > > John, KG4AKV > >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: >> So let's give this a try. I did a reply to all from gmail and it is sending >> both to you directly and also to the bb. >> >> I seldom have this problem, but I suspect 2 or three variants of reasons: >> >> 1) The mail client you use employs something other than the subject to group >> conversations. >> >> 2) The mail client someone else uses does not keep the thread number >> >> 3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail >> message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire >> digest. >> >> My ideas anyway. See if mine comes in the same conversation for you... >> >> Burns >> >> >>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John Brier wrote: >>> >>> I have never seen this on any other mailing list. >>> >>> Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the >>> user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to >>> send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to >>> "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except >>> amsat-bb? >>> >>> If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who >>> search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find >>> if it's across multiple threads. >>> >>> Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a >>> conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not >>> interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread >>> read as opposed to two or three other threads. >>> >>> If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it >>> is common practice to change the subject like so: >>> >>> How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads >>> when replying to a post on amsat-bb?) >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> John, KG4AKV >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 21:18:12 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:18:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Bob! On Jan 25, 2016 16:14, "Bob via AMSAT-BB" wrote: > I will try to be more diligent > > NZ2Z/Bob - Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 25, 2016, at 3:57 PM, John Brier wrote: > > > > This is a legitimate reason: > > > > 3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail > > message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the > > entire digest. > > > > There is no easy way around this, but it is helpful to try and use the > > same exact subject by copying and pasting. > > > > It's not on my end, most emails are threaded fine. > > > > Anyway, as someone has said off list, this is not likely to change > > everyone's behavior. It's just a slight pet peeve. > > > > John, KG4AKV > > > >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > >> So let's give this a try. I did a reply to all from gmail and it is > sending > >> both to you directly and also to the bb. > >> > >> I seldom have this problem, but I suspect 2 or three variants of > reasons: > >> > >> 1) The mail client you use employs something other than the subject to > group > >> conversations. > >> > >> 2) The mail client someone else uses does not keep the thread number > >> > >> 3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail > >> message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the > entire > >> digest. > >> > >> My ideas anyway. See if mine comes in the same conversation for you... > >> > >> Burns > >> > >> > >>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John Brier > wrote: > >>> > >>> I have never seen this on any other mailing list. > >>> > >>> Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the > >>> user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to > >>> send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to > >>> "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except > >>> amsat-bb? > >>> > >>> If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who > >>> search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find > >>> if it's across multiple threads. > >>> > >>> Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a > >>> conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not > >>> interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread > >>> read as opposed to two or three other threads. > >>> > >>> If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it > >>> is common practice to change the subject like so: > >>> > >>> How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads > >>> when replying to a post on amsat-bb?) > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> > >>> John, KG4AKV > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > >>> expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >>> AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From pconver at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 21:23:24 2016 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:23:24 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Pass.exe handles Rotor & Dopplers Message-ID: Web App at http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm could handle Rotor and Dopplers Does it thru http://amsat.org.ar/pass.exe available for download. Uses WispDDE Driver http://www.mederoscnc.com/CX6DD/wispdde/wispdde.htm If You try, comments/suggestions/changes welcome. 73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso From py5lf at falautomation.com.br Mon Jan 25 21:26:05 2016 From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:26:05 -0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] 18 minutes QSO on WX2 Message-ID: <008001d157b7$03ce79f0$0b6b6dd0$@falautomation.com.br> Right now we had a nice QSO jumping from XW2C to WX2F and finally to XW2A . PU2RAS , PT9BM and me , PY5LF , 18 minutes on QSO. 73 PY5LF Luciano Fabricio Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF From normanlizeth at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 21:40:19 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:40:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 In-Reply-To: <201601251956.u0PJuW6p031471@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201601251956.u0PJuW6p031471@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: Was looking with a chary eye at the Mitsubishi boards available on the net. Pulled the trigger on 4 boards and 2 amp controllers from 'pql. Spent many, many nights browsing his homepages. Need to decide which part I should mount. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > =======snip > I looked into the Toshiba Module solution mentioned, and it is a pretty > decent solution, but my problem with it was filtering. Those modules > are great but have pretty bad third harmonic and spur rejection. This > means that final stage filtering will be required to stay within FCC > limits (I think -60 dBc is the requirement, can't remember off the top > of my head). The W6PQL reference is fantastic and is closer to a good > solution because he has the filtering problem solved in his designs (you > may have to get the filter board separate for the 70cm design, I think > he includes a filter in the 80W 2m Amp design). For the budget > conscious, this is the path I would recommend. I would probably look > into using the Toshiba modules with lower output power (single digit > Watts) as a driver for something like a Mirage Amp (that I think has the > final stage filtering built in). > ====snip > > The W6PQL board is wide-band and one only needs to use proper value bypass > capacitors and wind coils for 435-MHz. Not saying that is trivial but that > is all that would be needed for filtering using that pc board. In the past > others made generic pc boards for using the Toshiba modules. This is going > to require some engineering to accomplish or you can spend big bucks and go > the Kuhne Engineering route. > > I assume anyone using the Ettus B210 is willing to do that. > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jsdenis at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 21:46:36 2016 From: jsdenis at gmail.com (Juan Sanchez) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:46:36 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 In-Reply-To: <201601251956.u0PJuW6p031471@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201601251956.u0PJuW6p031471@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everybody...... I begin studying all this good information Sorry for my bad english... 73 de Juan....EB2FVT El 25/01/2016 20:56, "Edward R Cole" escribi?: > =======snip > I looked into the Toshiba Module solution mentioned, and it is a pretty > decent solution, but my problem with it was filtering. Those modules > are great but have pretty bad third harmonic and spur rejection. This > means that final stage filtering will be required to stay within FCC > limits (I think -60 dBc is the requirement, can't remember off the top > of my head). The W6PQL reference is fantastic and is closer to a good > solution because he has the filtering problem solved in his designs (you > may have to get the filter board separate for the 70cm design, I think > he includes a filter in the 80W 2m Amp design). For the budget > conscious, this is the path I would recommend. I would probably look > into using the Toshiba modules with lower output power (single digit > Watts) as a driver for something like a Mirage Amp (that I think has the > final stage filtering built in). > ====snip > > The W6PQL board is wide-band and one only needs to use proper value bypass > capacitors and wind coils for 435-MHz. Not saying that is trivial but that > is all that would be needed for filtering using that pc board. In the past > others made generic pc boards for using the Toshiba modules. This is going > to require some engineering to accomplish or you can spend big bucks and go > the Kuhne Engineering route. > > I assume anyone using the Ettus B210 is willing to do that. > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jsdenis at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 22:10:10 2016 From: jsdenis at gmail.com (Juan Jose Sanchez Denis) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:10:10 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 In-Reply-To: <201601251956.u0PJuW6p031471@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201601251956.u0PJuW6p031471@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <1453759810.7928.2.camel@jj-laptop> What do you think about these amps? http://www.rfbayinc.com/subcategory_product.php?cPath=58 The HPA-155 and HPA 480 73 de Juan EB2FVT El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:56 -0900, Edward R Cole escribi?: > =======snip > I looked into the Toshiba Module solution mentioned, and it is a pretty > decent solution, but my problem with it was filtering. Those modules > are great but have pretty bad third harmonic and spur rejection. This > means that final stage filtering will be required to stay within FCC > limits (I think -60 dBc is the requirement, can't remember off the top > of my head). The W6PQL reference is fantastic and is closer to a good > solution because he has the filtering problem solved in his designs (you > may have to get the filter board separate for the 70cm design, I think > he includes a filter in the 80W 2m Amp design). For the budget > conscious, this is the path I would recommend. I would probably look > into using the Toshiba modules with lower output power (single digit > Watts) as a driver for something like a Mirage Amp (that I think has the > final stage filtering built in). > ====snip > > The W6PQL board is wide-band and one only needs to use proper value > bypass capacitors and wind coils for 435-MHz. Not saying that is > trivial but that is all that would be needed for filtering using that > pc board. In the past others made generic pc boards for using the > Toshiba modules. This is going to require some engineering to > accomplish or you can spend big bucks and go the Kuhne Engineering route. > > I assume anyone using the Ettus B210 is willing to do that. > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dave at druidnetworks.com Mon Jan 25 23:02:25 2016 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (Dave Swanson) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:02:25 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] KG5CCI/P 1/27/2016 & 2/1/2016 thru 2/4/2016 Message-ID: <56A6A981.70109@druidnetworks.com> Satellite Friends and Colleagues, I've got some travel coming up in the following weeks, and wanted to make the community aware of my plans for /P operating. On January 27th, 2016 I will be in Jonesboro, AR which will place me in the vicinity of the EM45/EM55/EM46/EM56 confluence. I'll have some free time between 1700UTC and 2100UTC, and plan to operate from one or more of those grids during that window. As EM46/EM56 are the more rarely heard of that group, I plan to focus on them. There are several FO29/AO7/AO85 passes in my free window, so be prepared for all mode operation. Following that trip on February 1st, 2016 I will be traveling to the EM03 area for several days. I will be passing thru EM23/EM14/EM13/EM04 during my travels to and from, and will try to at least hit a few of those grids during the drive out and back. Tentative plans are to return on February 4th, but I may have to stay longer depending on workload in the area. Travel to and from will be primary satellite operating time, with some individual passes from EM03 in the evenings from the site. I haven't calculated out specific passes yet, as exact locations and times will be fluid, but like normal I will be QRV on all birds and all modes. Like always, follow me on Twitter @KG5CCI for up to the second /P pass information. 73! -Dave, KG5CCI From lists at rudn.com Mon Jan 25 23:43:35 2016 From: lists at rudn.com (Jeff Breitner) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:43:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: References: <1D08139A-AAAD-4AFD-853C-8029C41B373D@verizon.net> Message-ID: <56A6B327.4060700@rudn.com> On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, A. Kevin Arber wrote: > Agree about the "Eggbeater" style. When I first returned to the sats I > homebrewed a couple and they worked fine. But even better is a Moxin style > which provides gain and circular polarization. See Larry Cebik"s article > in August 2001 QST. I built these and they worked great for the LEOs. > Great for portable too, as are omnidirectional. > Kevin/W3DAD > I prefer them over the Eggbeater/Texas Potato Mashers, and the Moxons are a Field Day favorite for the linear transponder birds. Easy to set up, and with a small field day operation, I like simple. Have been able to work someone on pretty much every pass. Never tried them for the FM birds or ISS contacts, I don't think they'll do well there at all during Field Day. Maybe normal operation, they would be "just okay" to "meh, need something better someday". Image of the ones I built for field day: http://imgur.com/KAkV44Q The design PDF is at http://www.oocities.org/w9bci/VHFUHFSatelite.pdf. The next iteration of the 400MHz antenna will use an appropriately sized rod rather than 12g copper wire. ka8ncr From k7trkradio at charter.net Mon Jan 25 23:52:41 2016 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:52:41 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors In-Reply-To: <56A6B327.4060700@rudn.com> References: <1D08139A-AAAD-4AFD-853C-8029C41B373D@verizon.net> <56A6B327.4060700@rudn.com> Message-ID: <001401d157cb$7d059330$7710b990$@charter.net> Jeff, I made mine using brass tubing from the hobby shop. Easy to solder, light weight. You make a small corner joint out of the next size down tubing 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Breitner Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:44 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, A. Kevin Arber wrote: > Agree about the "Eggbeater" style. When I first returned to the sats > I homebrewed a couple and they worked fine. But even better is a > Moxin style which provides gain and circular polarization. See Larry > Cebik"s article in August 2001 QST. I built these and they worked great for the LEOs. > Great for portable too, as are omnidirectional. > Kevin/W3DAD > I prefer them over the Eggbeater/Texas Potato Mashers, and the Moxons are a Field Day favorite for the linear transponder birds. Easy to set up, and with a small field day operation, I like simple. Have been able to work someone on pretty much every pass. Never tried them for the FM birds or ISS contacts, I don't think they'll do well there at all during Field Day. Maybe normal operation, they would be "just okay" to "meh, need something better someday". Image of the ones I built for field day: http://imgur.com/KAkV44Q The design PDF is at http://www.oocities.org/w9bci/VHFUHFSatelite.pdf. The next iteration of the 400MHz antenna will use an appropriately sized rod rather than 12g copper wire. ka8ncr _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Jan 26 03:03:35 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:03:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 18 minutes QSO on WX2 In-Reply-To: <008001d157b7$03ce79f0$0b6b6dd0$@falautomation.com.br> References: <008001d157b7$03ce79f0$0b6b6dd0$@falautomation.com.br> Message-ID: I noted that I have 36 workable voice satellite passes from here in Washington, DC tomorrow and we have at least four more transponders scheduled to launch this year. There are tons of opportunities to work satellites these days, no matter what your schedule is. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:26 PM, PY5LF wrote: > Right now we had a nice QSO jumping from XW2C to WX2F and finally to XW2A . > > PU2RAS , PT9BM and me , PY5LF , 18 minutes on QSO. > > 73 > > > > PY5LF > > Luciano Fabricio > > Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm > > http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Tue Jan 26 04:25:52 2016 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes (CO7WT)) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:25:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56A6F550.8090804@frcuba.co.cu> Use the kamal's PPA. It's a kind of super updated unofficial repository ready to use, see here: https://ppa.launchpad.net/kamalmostafa/trustedqsl 73 El 25/01/16 a las 12:20, John KI4RO escribi?: > Well, I'm not much of an expert on Linux/Ubuntu and hoping for some help > here; ARRL hasn't been much help yet. > I got TQSL out of the Ubuntu Software Center; it downloaded and installed > just fine. I was under the impression that, having installed it that way, > updates would be installed as they became available but apparently that is > not the case. > I've gone to the site and downloaded the appropriate tar.gz file and > unpacked it but I don't know what to do with it now. I've tried the make > command and such as specified on other sites but they don't seem able to > work. > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > 73 > John KI4RO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From normanlizeth at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 08:20:22 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:20:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Attached the B210 to the UHF antenna for FO-29. Didn't notice the uplink power was set on 50 watts until afterward. B210 could have cared less. Talked with Captain Yuri. Score one for National Instruments! On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Juan Sanchez wrote: > I'm looking for some information about using some ettus SDR for sat work. I > have a B210. What kind of amplifier can I use able to be driven with the > 200 mW of the Tx/RX output, better if it's pass trought. My google search > was unable to find some ham who has made somethin similar > Is ther some similar work with another SDR? > I would appreciate any kind of help... I'm a newbie... > Thanks a lot. > 73 > Juan > EB2FVT > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ns3l at yahoo.com Tue Jan 26 10:46:28 2016 From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. In-Reply-To: References: <895247481.723410.1453729665459.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <895247481.723410.1453729665459.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1718255336.187023.1453805188195.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for all the replies. I'm just going to leave them empty and rely on satpc32 to handle things.. Steve NS3L From: Jeff To: Steve Nordahl Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. You really don't have to program in any sat channels if your going to be using SatPC32 to control it. The program will set the u/l and d/l for doppler as you work the sat. I have a doppler.sqf file for SatPC32? I can send? you if you like... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nordahl via AMSAT-BB Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:47 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. Hi all,, Just purchased a IC-9100 with RT Software to program it. Although I'll be using SatPC32 to control things I was wondering what do most of you put in the Satellite memory channels? FM birds?? Is it even worth programming them..? Steve NS3L From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl Tue Jan 26 13:05:09 2016 From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:05:09 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <56A6F550.8090804@frcuba.co.cu> References: <56A6F550.8090804@frcuba.co.cu> Message-ID: <20160126130509.GA20821@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Quoting Pavel Milanes (CO7WT) who wrote on Mon 2016-01-25 at 23:25: > Use the kamal's PPA. > > It's a kind of super updated unofficial repository ready to use, see here: > > https://ppa.launchpad.net/kamalmostafa/trustedqsl .. which has no newer versions than trustedqsl 2.0.3 I'll mail the maintainer, maybe he can start updating the ubuntu trustedqsl package again. Koos van den Hout -- The Virtual Bookcase, the site about books, book | Koos van den Hout news and reviews http://www.virtualbookcase.com/ | http://idefix.net/ PGP keyid 0xF0D7C263 | IPv6 enabled! From fredcastello at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 13:06:15 2016 From: fredcastello at gmail.com (Fred Castello) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:06:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Thank You All Message-ID: <0AC941A9-E5A7-4870-B045-EF4C462FF37B@gmail.com> Don?t know if this is an appropriate thing to do or not, so forgive a newbie if not. I just wanted to thank all of you who have sent me notes and answered my questions regarding rotors. The response was very helpful and much appreciated. Looking forward to contacting this group on the satellites. Best, Fred Castello KF4FC From mccardelm at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 14:03:11 2016 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:03:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Thank You All In-Reply-To: <0AC941A9-E5A7-4870-B045-EF4C462FF37B@gmail.com> References: <0AC941A9-E5A7-4870-B045-EF4C462FF37B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <224B99FD-9284-44AB-BB9A-15511F0E6855@gmail.com> Fred, Politeness and consideration is always appropriate. EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Fred Castello wrote: > > Don?t know if this is an appropriate thing to do or not, so forgive a newbie if not. I just wanted to thank all of you who have sent me notes and answered my questions regarding rotors. The response was very helpful and much appreciated. Looking forward to contacting this group on the satellites. > Best, > Fred Castello > KF4FC > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k4jk.james at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 14:32:51 2016 From: k4jk.james at gmail.com (James K4JK) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:32:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20160126130509.GA20821@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> References: <56A6F550.8090804@frcuba.co.cu> <20160126130509.GA20821@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: For anyone new to Linux who's confused: When ARRL releases a new version of TQSL, they only supply the source code as far as Linux goes. They do not maintain the respective packages for each distribution, like they do for windows. The package maintainer for a particular distribution will have to compile the source for each architecture and version before it will install "automatically" through a package manager. So, a lot of times there will be a delay between when you see the ARRL announce that a new version is released, and when you will see it show up in your Linux package manager as an update ready to be pushed out and installed. This delay is the time between a source release and the maintainer building the package for your particular distro, version, and architecture. If you don't want to wait you can always compile and install yourself, not hard to do at all once you get used to it! 73 James K4JK On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Koos van den Hout wrote: > Quoting Pavel Milanes (CO7WT) who wrote on Mon 2016-01-25 at 23:25: > > > Use the kamal's PPA. > > > > It's a kind of super updated unofficial repository ready to use, see > here: > > > > https://ppa.launchpad.net/kamalmostafa/trustedqsl > > .. which has no newer versions than trustedqsl 2.0.3 > > I'll mail the maintainer, maybe he can start updating the ubuntu trustedqsl > package again. > > Koos van den Hout > > -- > The Virtual Bookcase, the site about books, book | Koos van den Hout > news and reviews http://www.virtualbookcase.com/ | http://idefix.net/ > PGP keyid 0xF0D7C263 | IPv6 enabled! > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ea4cyq at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 18:00:43 2016 From: ea4cyq at gmail.com (Juan Antonio) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:00:43 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] 18:15 UTC AO-07 will be 3deg elev over Spain, great sole over USA Message-ID: <000c01d15863$7a32a100$6e97e300$@gmail.com> I will be waiting USA stations, GL Juan Antonio EA4CYQ --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From bombeiro.gustavo at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 18:24:05 2016 From: bombeiro.gustavo at gmail.com (Gustavo Nicolau) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:24:05 -0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Message-ID: good window to SA 20:02 utc. 73 From johnki4ro at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 20:28:59 2016 From: johnki4ro at gmail.com (John KI4RO) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:28:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Koos and Paval. Unfortunately Koos is correct in that the new Trustedqsl is not there. 73 John 73 John KI4RO On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:29 PM, wrote: > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ettus B210 (Juan Jose Sanchez Denis) > 2. KG5CCI/P 1/27/2016 & 2/1/2016 thru 2/4/2016 (Dave Swanson) > 3. Re: Az-El Rotors (Jeff Breitner) > 4. Re: Az-El Rotors (Ted) > 5. Re: 18 minutes QSO on WX2 (Paul Stoetzer) > 6. Re: Latest TQSL on Ubuntu (Pavel Milanes (CO7WT)) > 7. Re: Ettus B210 (Norm n3ykf) > 8. Re: IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. (Steve Nordahl) > 9. Re: Latest TQSL on Ubuntu (Koos van den Hout) > 10. Thank You All (Fred Castello) > 11. Re: Thank You All (E.Mike McCardel) > 12. Re: Latest TQSL on Ubuntu (James K4JK) > 13. 18:15 UTC AO-07 will be 3deg elev over Spain, great sole over > USA (Juan Antonio) > 14. AO-7 (Gustavo Nicolau) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:10:10 +0100 > From: Juan Jose Sanchez Denis > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 > Message-ID: <1453759810.7928.2.camel at jj-laptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > What do you think about these amps? > > http://www.rfbayinc.com/subcategory_product.php?cPath=58 > > The HPA-155 and HPA 480 > > 73 de Juan EB2FVT > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:56 -0900, Edward R Cole escribi?: > > =======snip > > I looked into the Toshiba Module solution mentioned, and it is a pretty > > decent solution, but my problem with it was filtering. Those modules > > are great but have pretty bad third harmonic and spur rejection. This > > means that final stage filtering will be required to stay within FCC > > limits (I think -60 dBc is the requirement, can't remember off the top > > of my head). The W6PQL reference is fantastic and is closer to a good > > solution because he has the filtering problem solved in his designs (you > > may have to get the filter board separate for the 70cm design, I think > > he includes a filter in the 80W 2m Amp design). For the budget > > conscious, this is the path I would recommend. I would probably look > > into using the Toshiba modules with lower output power (single digit > > Watts) as a driver for something like a Mirage Amp (that I think has the > > final stage filtering built in). > > ====snip > > > > The W6PQL board is wide-band and one only needs to use proper value > > bypass capacitors and wind coils for 435-MHz. Not saying that is > > trivial but that is all that would be needed for filtering using that > > pc board. In the past others made generic pc boards for using the > > Toshiba modules. This is going to require some engineering to > > accomplish or you can spend big bucks and go the Kuhne Engineering route. > > > > I assume anyone using the Ettus B210 is willing to do that. > > > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > > http://www.kl7uw.com > > "Kits made by KL7UW" > > Dubus Mag business: > > dubususa at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:02:25 -0600 > From: Dave Swanson > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] KG5CCI/P 1/27/2016 & 2/1/2016 thru 2/4/2016 > Message-ID: <56A6A981.70109 at druidnetworks.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Satellite Friends and Colleagues, > > I've got some travel coming up in the following weeks, and wanted to > make the community aware of my plans for /P operating. > > On January 27th, 2016 I will be in Jonesboro, AR which will place me in > the vicinity of the EM45/EM55/EM46/EM56 confluence. I'll have some free > time between 1700UTC and 2100UTC, and plan to operate from one or more > of those grids during that window. As EM46/EM56 are the more rarely > heard of that group, I plan to focus on them. There are several > FO29/AO7/AO85 passes in my free window, so be prepared for all mode > operation. > > Following that trip on February 1st, 2016 I will be traveling to the > EM03 area for several days. I will be passing thru EM23/EM14/EM13/EM04 > during my travels to and from, and will try to at least hit a few of > those grids during the drive out and back. Tentative plans are to return > on February 4th, but I may have to stay longer depending on workload in > the area. Travel to and from will be primary satellite operating time, > with some individual passes from EM03 in the evenings from the site. I > haven't calculated out specific passes yet, as exact locations and times > will be fluid, but like normal I will be QRV on all birds and all modes. > > Like always, follow me on Twitter @KG5CCI for up to the second /P pass > information. > > 73! > > -Dave, KG5CCI > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:43:35 -0500 > From: Jeff Breitner > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors > Message-ID: <56A6B327.4060700 at rudn.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > > On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, A. Kevin Arber wrote: > > Agree about the "Eggbeater" style. When I first returned to the sats I > > homebrewed a couple and they worked fine. But even better is a Moxin > style > > which provides gain and circular polarization. See Larry Cebik"s article > > in August 2001 QST. I built these and they worked great for the LEOs. > > Great for portable too, as are omnidirectional. > > Kevin/W3DAD > > > > > I prefer them over the Eggbeater/Texas Potato Mashers, and the Moxons > are a Field Day favorite for the linear transponder birds. Easy to set > up, and with a small field day operation, I like simple. Have been able > to work someone on pretty much every pass. > > Never tried them for the FM birds or ISS contacts, I don't think they'll > do well there at all during Field Day. Maybe normal operation, they > would be "just okay" to "meh, need something better someday". > > Image of the ones I built for field day: > http://imgur.com/KAkV44Q > > The design PDF is at http://www.oocities.org/w9bci/VHFUHFSatelite.pdf. > > The next iteration of the 400MHz antenna will use an appropriately sized > rod rather than 12g copper wire. > > ka8ncr > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:52:41 -0800 > From: "Ted" > To: "'Jeff Breitner'" , > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors > Message-ID: <001401d157cb$7d059330$7710b990$@charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Jeff, I made mine using brass tubing from the hobby shop. Easy to solder, > light weight. You make a small corner joint out of the next size down > tubing > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff > Breitner > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:44 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Az-El Rotors > > > > On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, A. Kevin Arber wrote: > > Agree about the "Eggbeater" style. When I first returned to the sats > > I homebrewed a couple and they worked fine. But even better is a > > Moxin style which provides gain and circular polarization. See Larry > > Cebik"s article in August 2001 QST. I built these and they worked great > for the LEOs. > > Great for portable too, as are omnidirectional. > > Kevin/W3DAD > > > > > I prefer them over the Eggbeater/Texas Potato Mashers, and the Moxons are a > Field Day favorite for the linear transponder birds. Easy to set up, and > with a small field day operation, I like simple. Have been able to work > someone on pretty much every pass. > > Never tried them for the FM birds or ISS contacts, I don't think they'll do > well there at all during Field Day. Maybe normal operation, they would be > "just okay" to "meh, need something better someday". > > Image of the ones I built for field day: > http://imgur.com/KAkV44Q > > The design PDF is at http://www.oocities.org/w9bci/VHFUHFSatelite.pdf. > > The next iteration of the 400MHz antenna will use an appropriately sized > rod > rather than 12g copper wire. > > ka8ncr > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:03:35 -0500 > From: Paul Stoetzer > To: PY5LF > Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 18 minutes QSO on WX2 > Message-ID: > N6fF0+yCgwYEM6vgzw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I noted that I have 36 workable voice satellite passes from here in > Washington, DC tomorrow and we have at least four more transponders > scheduled to launch this year. There are tons of opportunities to work > satellites these days, no matter what your schedule is. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:26 PM, PY5LF wrote: > > Right now we had a nice QSO jumping from XW2C to WX2F and finally to > XW2A . > > > > PU2RAS , PT9BM and me , PY5LF , 18 minutes on QSO. > > > > 73 > > > > > > > > PY5LF > > > > Luciano Fabricio > > > > Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm > > > > http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:25:52 -0500 > From: "Pavel Milanes (CO7WT)" > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu > Message-ID: <56A6F550.8090804 at frcuba.co.cu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Use the kamal's PPA. > > It's a kind of super updated unofficial repository ready to use, see here: > > https://ppa.launchpad.net/kamalmostafa/trustedqsl > > 73 > > El 25/01/16 a las 12:20, John KI4RO escribi?: > > Well, I'm not much of an expert on Linux/Ubuntu and hoping for some help > > here; ARRL hasn't been much help yet. > > I got TQSL out of the Ubuntu Software Center; it downloaded and installed > > just fine. I was under the impression that, having installed it that > way, > > updates would be installed as they became available but apparently that > is > > not the case. > > I've gone to the site and downloaded the appropriate tar.gz file and > > unpacked it but I don't know what to do with it now. I've tried the make > > command and such as specified on other sites but they don't seem able to > > work. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > > 73 > > John KI4RO > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:20:22 -0500 > From: Norm n3ykf > To: Juan Sanchez > Cc: "<,amsat-bb at amsat.org>," > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 > Message-ID: > < > CAJUhCTNvb27fxhh9ruwFV_Eb_ap_rysRoUoW6xK+GHtSjzjWfw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Attached the B210 to the UHF antenna for FO-29. Didn't notice the > uplink power was set on 50 watts until afterward. B210 could have > cared less. Talked with Captain Yuri. > Score one for National Instruments! > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Juan Sanchez wrote: > > I'm looking for some information about using some ettus SDR for sat > work. I > > have a B210. What kind of amplifier can I use able to be driven with the > > 200 mW of the Tx/RX output, better if it's pass trought. My google search > > was unable to find some ham who has made somethin similar > > Is ther some similar work with another SDR? > > I would appreciate any kind of help... I'm a newbie... > > Thanks a lot. > > 73 > > Juan > > EB2FVT > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:46:28 +0000 (UTC) > From: Steve Nordahl > To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. > Message-ID: > <1718255336.187023.1453805188195.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Thanks for all the replies. I'm just going to leave them empty and rely on > satpc32 to handle things.. > Steve NS3L > > From: Jeff > To: Steve Nordahl > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. > > You really don't have to program in any sat channels if your going to be > using SatPC32 to control it. The program will set the u/l and d/l for > doppler as you work the sat. I have a doppler.sqf file for SatPC32? I can > send? you if you like... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Nordahl via AMSAT-BB > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:47 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 Satellite Memories.. > > Hi all,, > > Just purchased a IC-9100 with RT Software to program it. Although I'll be > using SatPC32 to control things I was wondering what do most of you put in > the Satellite memory channels? FM birds?? Is it even worth programming > them..? > > Steve NS3L > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:05:09 +0100 > From: Koos van den Hout > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu > Message-ID: <20160126130509.GA20821 at kzdoos.xs4all.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Quoting Pavel Milanes (CO7WT) who wrote on Mon 2016-01-25 at 23:25: > > > Use the kamal's PPA. > > > > It's a kind of super updated unofficial repository ready to use, see > here: > > > > https://ppa.launchpad.net/kamalmostafa/trustedqsl > > .. which has no newer versions than trustedqsl 2.0.3 > > I'll mail the maintainer, maybe he can start updating the ubuntu trustedqsl > package again. > > Koos van den Hout > > -- > The Virtual Bookcase, the site about books, book | Koos van den Hout > news and reviews http://www.virtualbookcase.com/ | http://idefix.net/ > PGP keyid 0xF0D7C263 | IPv6 enabled! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:06:15 -0500 > From: Fred Castello > To: AMSAT bbs > Subject: [amsat-bb] Thank You All > Message-ID: <0AC941A9-E5A7-4870-B045-EF4C462FF37B at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Don?t know if this is an appropriate thing to do or not, so forgive a > newbie if not. I just wanted to thank all of you who have sent me notes > and answered my questions regarding rotors. The response was very helpful > and much appreciated. Looking forward to contacting this group on the > satellites. > Best, > Fred Castello > KF4FC > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:03:11 -0500 > From: "E.Mike McCardel" > To: Fred Castello > Cc: AMSAT bbs > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Thank You All > Message-ID: <224B99FD-9284-44AB-BB9A-15511F0E6855 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Fred, > > Politeness and consideration is always appropriate. > > EMike > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Fred Castello > wrote: > > > > Don?t know if this is an appropriate thing to do or not, so forgive a > newbie if not. I just wanted to thank all of you who have sent me notes > and answered my questions regarding rotors. The response was very helpful > and much appreciated. Looking forward to contacting this group on the > satellites. > > Best, > > Fred Castello > > KF4FC > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:32:51 -0500 > From: James K4JK > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu > Message-ID: > < > CAMRfJPmV91iOPd2rk0Rc6_mEVSuEXTGbBHH4-XEqzCjGVAOEpg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > For anyone new to Linux who's confused: > > When ARRL releases a new version of TQSL, they only supply the source code > as far as Linux goes. They do not maintain the respective packages for each > distribution, like they do for windows. > > The package maintainer for a particular distribution will have to compile > the source for each architecture and version before it will install > "automatically" through a package manager. > > So, a lot of times there will be a delay between when you see the ARRL > announce that a new version is released, and when you will see it show up > in your Linux package manager as an update ready to be pushed out and > installed. > > This delay is the time between a source release and the maintainer building > the package for your particular distro, version, and architecture. > > If you don't want to wait you can always compile and install yourself, not > hard to do at all once you get used to it! > > 73 > James > K4JK > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Koos van den Hout > wrote: > > > Quoting Pavel Milanes (CO7WT) who wrote on Mon 2016-01-25 at 23:25: > > > > > Use the kamal's PPA. > > > > > > It's a kind of super updated unofficial repository ready to use, see > > here: > > > > > > https://ppa.launchpad.net/kamalmostafa/trustedqsl > > > > .. which has no newer versions than trustedqsl 2.0.3 > > > > I'll mail the maintainer, maybe he can start updating the ubuntu > trustedqsl > > package again. > > > > Koos van den Hout > > > > -- > > The Virtual Bookcase, the site about books, book | Koos van den Hout > > news and reviews http://www.virtualbookcase.com/ | http://idefix.net/ > > PGP keyid 0xF0D7C263 | IPv6 enabled! > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:00:43 +0100 > From: "Juan Antonio" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] 18:15 UTC AO-07 will be 3deg elev over Spain, > great sole over USA > Message-ID: <000c01d15863$7a32a100$6e97e300$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I will be waiting USA stations, GL > > Juan Antonio > EA4CYQ > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en > busca de virus. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:24:05 -0200 > From: Gustavo Nicolau > To: Satdx-bb at star-com.net, amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 > Message-ID: > 2k_iZUw6u2Q at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > good window to SA 20:02 utc. 73 > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons > worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ------------------------------ > > End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 32 > **************************************** > From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Tue Jan 26 22:16:16 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 13:16:16 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 Message-ID: <201601262216.u0QMGHro003424@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Initially, I was concerned that they would be class-C amps but do show saturation level so perhaps they are biased for linear. Input requirement is +13 dBm (20mw) which should not be a problem with many transverters. I just installed a mmic amp to drive a S-AV36. MAV11 is +15 dBm (31mw) for 5mw drive. Still testing so will know soon if 31mw is adequate drive for full output. Most of the RF modules perform better than spec indicates (take less drive). At $480 I can see I am charging too little for the 2M80 amp ($369). RFBay Inc. appears to be addressing the commercial market vs ham radio. If one is adverse to building their own this might be a solution. 20w is certainly adequate for satellite work if decent antennas are used. My DEMI L432-28 outputs 25w but that will be reduced by time it reaches the antenna. On 2m my KX3-2M outputs 2.5w which will drive a 25w linear or a 60w class-C amp (for FM). I think I would follow up building the W6PQL boards, if I had the skill, tools, and determination. 73, Ed - KL7UW --------------- From: Juan Jose Sanchez Denis To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ettus B210 Message-ID: <1453759810.7928.2.camel at jj-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" What do you think about these amps? http://www.rfbayinc.com/subcategory_product.php?cPath=58 The HPA-155 and HPA 480 73 de Juan EB2FVT 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From on4auc at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 23:08:06 2016 From: on4auc at gmail.com (Henk Coens) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 00:08:06 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Arrow antenna wanted Message-ID: Hi there I am looking for a used Arrow 10WBP antenna with built in diplexer, to activate some wet squares starting in March . If anyone ,wants to get rid of his old Arrow antenna for a reasonable price, Just drop me a mail via on4auc at gmail.com 73s Henk ON4AUC sat op for PI4DHV From normanlizeth at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 23:32:58 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 18:32:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 18:15 UTC AO-07 will be 3deg elev over Spain, great sole over USA In-Reply-To: <000c01d15863$7a32a100$6e97e300$@gmail.com> References: <000c01d15863$7a32a100$6e97e300$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nice sigs on this end! Receiver was an Ettus B210. Uplink IC-7000. 3 degrees here. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Juan Antonio wrote: > I will be waiting USA stations, GL > > Juan Antonio > EA4CYQ > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From AJ9N at aol.com Wed Jan 27 01:40:15 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:40:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-27 01:30 UTC Message-ID: <10cde9.4131a3fc.43d979ff@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-27 01:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand, direct via E29AJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI (***) Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-01-30 11:06:23 UTC 63 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 115 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-27 01:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1019. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 984. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-20 23:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jan 27 15:57:54 2016 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Harmonization and removal of OSCAR sub-band References: <992024131.1666915.1453910274133.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <992024131.1666915.1453910274133.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> IARU R1 Paper: APRS Harmonization and removal of OSCAR sub-band http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/27/iaru-paper-aprs-harmonisation/ ISS Satellite Deployment Jan 29 http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/27/iss-satellite-deployment/ Chelmsford Talk: Amateur Radio Satellites - with emphasis on beginners http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/24/chelmsford-talk-amateur-radio-satellites/ Video of Tim Peake ham radio contact with Sandringham School http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/09/video-tim-peake-sandringham/ Local newspaper reports reception of Tim Peake on ISS http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/13/local-paper-tim-peake-iss/ Amateur radio village at EMF 2016 Guildford http://amsat-uk.org/2016/01/13/amateur-radio-village-at-emf-2016/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From AJ9N at aol.com Wed Jan 27 21:00:50 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:00:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-27 21:00 UTC Message-ID: <194cdd.19004d64.43da8a02@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-27 21:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand, direct via E29AJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-01-30 11:06:23 UTC 63 deg Christ The King School, Rutland, Vermont, telebridge via VK4KHZ (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN (***) Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-02-04 18:28:16 UTC 88 deg (***) "Gesmundo Moro Fiore" Secondary School, Terlizzi, Italy, telebridge via LU1CGB (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI (***) Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-02-06 09:09:01 UTC 40 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 115 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-27 21:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1019. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 984. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-20 23:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Wed Jan 27 22:48:21 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS)) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 07:48:21 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy birthday, Mr. Yagi Message-ID: <20160128073005.9A8B.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Just pointing out that today is the 130th birthday of Hidetsugu Yagi, co-inventor of the Yagi-Uda antenna. 2016 is the 90th anniversary of the antenna's patent being granted, a technology which revolutionized radio communication and played a large part in making our endeavors as amateur radio operators more global in scope. It's also one of the main reasons we're all able to work satellites. Google Japan (http://www.google.co.jp/) has made it today's Google doodle: http://i.imgur.com/loS5b4U.jpg For some reason I felt very excited about this, as if we all got on the news :) -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C From robocurt at yahoo.com Wed Jan 27 23:03:41 2016 From: robocurt at yahoo.com (Curt Phillips W4CP) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy birthday, Mr. Yagi In-Reply-To: <20160128073005.9A8B.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <20160128073005.9A8B.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: <1273796374.1019161.1453935822002.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, we celebrate and commemorate Mr. Yagi, but what of Mr. Uda? ?People often refer, in speaking and in print, of their beam antennas being "Yagis", but when do they ever call them "Udas" or even "Yagi-Udas"? ?When? Never. It just goes to show you, if you are even the co-inventor of something, fight, FIGHT to have your name put first on the invention. ?Otherwise, the world may forget you even were involved. :-) 73,Curt W4CP From: J. Boyd (JR2TTS) To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:48 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy birthday, Mr. Yagi Just pointing out that today is the 130th birthday of Hidetsugu Yagi, co-inventor of the Yagi-Uda antenna. 2016 is the 90th anniversary of the antenna's patent being granted, a technology which revolutionized radio communication and played a large part in making our endeavors as amateur radio operators more global in scope. It's also one of the main reasons we're all able to work satellites. Google Japan (http://www.google.co.jp/) has made it today's Google doodle: http://i.imgur.com/loS5b4U.jpg For some reason I felt very excited about this, as if we all got on the news :) -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp Wed Jan 27 23:29:57 2016 From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS)) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:29:57 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy birthday, Mr. Yagi In-Reply-To: <1273796374.1019161.1453935822002.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <20160128073005.9A8B.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> <1273796374.1019161.1453935822002.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20160128081140.9A8E.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:03:41 +0000 (UTC), Curt Phillips W4CP wrote: > Yes, we celebrate and commemorate Mr. Yagi, but what of Mr. Uda? > People often refer, in speaking and in print, of their beam antennas > being "Yagis", but when do they ever call them "Udas" or even "Yagi-Udas"? > ?When? Never. It was because Yagi was the professor and Shintaro Uda was the assistant under him, so Yagi's name came first on the patent, despite Uda doing most of the research. (There is an interesting history of how their invention made it to the West, including a story of how the Japanese army found captured British documents after the fall of Singapore about anti-aircraft radar systems mentioning "yagis". They had not yet invented radar, so they were mystified as to what a "yagi" was -- they didn't even know whether it was pronounced with a hard or soft G. When they interrogated the English POWs about this, the prisoners incredulously shouted back "You don't even know the name of one of your own people who invented the damn thing?!") > It just goes to show you, if you are even the co-inventor of something, > fight, FIGHT to have your name put first on the invention. ?Otherwise, > the world may forget you even were involved. Somewhere in Heaven, Bill Finger (co-creator -- probably the *true* creator -- of Batman) is nodding in agreement. -- J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/ http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS Twitter: @Minus2_C From m-arai at a.email.ne.jp Thu Jan 28 17:10:39 2016 From: m-arai at a.email.ne.jp (Masahiro Arai) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 02:10:39 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Aggiesat4 and BEVO-2 ready for deployment Message-ID: <56AA4B8F.5040306@a.email.ne.jp> Tim and Scott set Aggiesat4 and BEVO-2 on Kibo module airlock. See the ISS On-Orbit Status 27th Jan. http://spaceref.com/international-space-station/nasa-international-space-station-on-orbit-status-27-january-2016.html 73 Masa JN1GKZ Tokyo Japan From electricity440 at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 01:03:53 2016 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:03:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour Message-ID: This is a reminder that the Colorado Amateur Satellite net will begin in 1 hour from now (7PM mountain time Thursday). 6PM Pacific 7PM Mountain 8PM Central 9PM Eastern Please visit us on *AMSATNET.INFO * *IRLP* 9870, the Denver Reflector *ALLSTAR LINK* 40764, direct hookup to the repeater here. 41715, KC9ZHV hub at a data center if I am out of bandwidth. More info on AllStar - amsatnet.info/#node *ECHOLINK* *AMSAT* unless there is an ARISS contact, then go direct to KD0WHB-L *LOCAL RF* 449.625 (-) 141.3 ( W?KU Lookout Mountain) 447.225 (-) 141.3 (The STEM school repeater we set up) 447.850 (-) 141.3 (AC?KQ's repeater where he lives on TOP of saddleback mountain) 147.450 SIMPLEX (Aurora, CO) 446.275 (-) 100.0 Galena St. Local repeater at my house, giving a whopping 5 blocks of great coverage *REMOTE RF* Your Repeater here!, Email me if you want to link in or me to link your echolink or allstar repeater in automatically (no automatic IRLP linking supported) Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com From rjlawn at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 02:42:02 2016 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 21:42:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ic7100 SatPC32 control Message-ID: Anyone know if this newer icom radio is compatible with satpc32? Rick,W2JAZ -- Sent from Gmail Mobile From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Fri Jan 29 03:13:40 2016 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 21:13:40 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ic7100 SatPC32 control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57FF5FDC909F4A2CBDCEBAAB1B73F8E6@AA5PKPC> The IC-7000 is one of the Radio Setup menu picks, so I assume the answer is yes. I've never tried to control my IC-700 with SatPC32, however. Glenn / AA5PK -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lawn Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:42 PM To: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Ic7100 SatPC32 control Anyone know if this newer icom radio is compatible with satpc32? Rick,W2JAZ From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Fri Jan 29 03:14:42 2016 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 21:14:42 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ic7100 SatPC32 control Message-ID: <96CE0C33483F4114BCC123FF06CE1F1C@AA5PKPC> Oops. Read it as IC-7000 versus IC-7100. Wine will do that to you :-) -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Miller - AA5PK Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:13 PM To: Richard Lawn ; Amsat BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ic7100 SatPC32 control The IC-7000 is one of the Radio Setup menu picks, so I assume the answer is yes. I've never tried to control my IC-700 with SatPC32, however. Glenn / AA5PK -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lawn Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:42 PM To: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Ic7100 SatPC32 control Anyone know if this newer icom radio is compatible with satpc32? Rick,W2JAZ From k4rgk at arrl.net Fri Jan 29 03:24:48 2016 From: k4rgk at arrl.net (Daryl Young) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 22:24:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ic7100 SatPC32 control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56AADB80.5040300@arrl.net> Yes, works fine. I use a IC7100 regularly, generally as the TX radio while using SDRplay as the RX. Set it up as a IC7000. Just be sure to set the matching Icom address. *Daryl K4RGK * On 1/28/2016 9:42 PM, Richard Lawn wrote: > Anyone know if this newer icom radio is compatible with satpc32? > > Rick,W2JAZ > > From framirezferrer at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 04:26:36 2016 From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 21:26:36 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Application Submitted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good evening everyone! I wanted to share my excitement with all of you! After three months and 8 days operating the FM satellites, I have received confirmation of my 100th grid from KG5CCI. I have submitted my application with hopes of receiving my VUCC award in the near future. Even though I was licensed 23 years ago, I have never had so much fun. Knowing that I'm talking through a flying repeater hundred of miles away, fascinates me. 98% percent of my confirmed grids were worked on SO-50. Two unique grids worked on AO-85. This, using a 4 watts handheld, an Arrow antenna and some luck. Confirming one hundred grids will sound minuscule to some, but thinking that I was trying to hear a ham radio satellite on a rubber ducky some months ago, is something I feel very proud of. I would like to thank all the operators I have worked during this time. A special thank you to N6UA, WD9EWK, W5PFG, KC5CCI, N8HM, KA4H, KO4MA and KI4RO for all the support, the advice, the grids and above everything else for the patience. To AMSAT-NA my best wishes and support! Take care everyone and catch you on the birds! 73 Fernando, NP4JV From framirezferrer at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 04:56:17 2016 From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 21:56:17 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Application Submitted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Still limited to FM, that might change someday :-). Good thing I've learn how to work AO-85 with just a Chinese handheld! Thanks John! On Jan 28, 2016 9:51 PM, "John Geiger" wrote: > Congrats Fernando! I am happy that I was able to give you EM04 towards > your VUCC. The sats are a blast and have the best ham operators on them! > Did you do all of your grids on FM? > > 73 John AF5CC > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Fernando Ramirez < > framirezferrer at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Good evening everyone! >> >> I wanted to share my excitement with all of you! >> >> After three months and 8 days operating the FM satellites, I have received >> confirmation of my 100th grid from KG5CCI. I have submitted my application >> with hopes of receiving my VUCC award in the near future. >> >> Even though I was licensed 23 years ago, I have never had so much fun. >> Knowing that I'm talking through a flying repeater hundred of miles away, >> fascinates me. >> >> 98% percent of my confirmed grids were worked on SO-50. Two unique grids >> worked on AO-85. This, using a 4 watts handheld, an Arrow antenna and some >> luck. >> >> Confirming one hundred grids will sound minuscule to some, but thinking >> that I was trying to hear a ham radio satellite on a rubber ducky some >> months ago, is something I feel very proud of. >> >> I would like to thank all the operators I have worked during this time. A >> special thank you to N6UA, WD9EWK, W5PFG, KC5CCI, N8HM, KA4H, KO4MA and >> KI4RO for all the support, the advice, the grids and above everything else >> for the patience. >> >> To AMSAT-NA my best wishes and support! >> >> Take care everyone and catch you on the birds! >> >> 73 >> Fernando, NP4JV >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Jan 29 05:08:51 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 00:08:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand on 30 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 11:06 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between OR4ISS and E29AJ. The contact should be audible over Thailand and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. PSU. Wittayanusorn School, established in 2005, is a Prince of Songkla University affiliated private high school in Hatyai, Songkhla Province, Thailand. The school serves approximately 1,200 students in 7th to 12th grade. The school's identity colors are blue and grey. The blue represents sustainability and grey stands for wisdom. The school motto is "wisdom brings lasting success and happiness". The guiding principle is "our soul is for the benefit of mankind". The desired characteristics of our students are "SMART+" which are referred to scientific mind, good manner, aesthetic appreciation, responsibility and reliability, teamwork, and +global citizenship. Green education is our school's uniqueness which focuses on education for sustainable development. PSU. Wittayanusorn School is dedicated to create an exceptional teaching and learning environment in which morality is emphasized, science and mathematics concepts are embedded. The school curriculum is designed to maximize each student's potential for critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, community involvement, and responsible leadership. Additionally, the school has been selected by the Ministry of Science and Technology to be one of the first four regional schools of the country to host a special three-year science classroom program for high school level, grades 10 to 12, according to the proactive human resources development project to upgrade the science and technology capability of the country. The selection of students with high ability in mathematics and science for the science classroom program is carried out by the Institute for the Promotion of Teaching Science and Technology and closely collaborated with Prince of Songkla University. Each student who passes the selection will be entitled to a scholarship from grade 10 onwards, and subjected to certain additional criteria, he/she will be eligible for a scholarship until he/she can complete his/her education up to a doctoral degree level. PSU Wittayanusorn School was accredited with the score 97.02% by the Office of National Education Standards and Quality Assessment on May 26, 2015. 1. Is there any microorganism in outer space and what kind are they? 2. How do you clean up yourself, and how often? 3.: How can you contact your family who live on Earth? 4. What is the most important qualification that astronaut should have? 5. What is your mission at ISS? 6. How do you save water? 7. For you, what is the hardest problem in the space? 8. How do you wash your clothes during you stay in space? 9. What were your preparations before going to space? 10. If the Earth ceases to be habitable for human beings, which planet could be humanity's next home? 11. How do you deal with human waste in the space? 12. What do we have to study if we want to be an astronaut? 13. If you get a knife cut, what would the wound be like and how to heal the wound? 14. What happens if female astronauts get their period while living in outer space? 15. Have you ever seen any strange stuff or phenomena in outer space such as UFO and how does it look? 16. How does the new 7 Wonders of the World look from the ISS? 17. Is it possible to celebrate your birthday in the ISS, and what happens when you blow the candles? What does the candle flame look like and why? 18. What are the differences between seeing the stars from the Earth and seeing them from the space station? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Sign up for the SAREX maillist at http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Christ The King School, Rutland, Vermont, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-02-04 18:28:16 UTC 88 deg 2 . "Gesmundo Moro Fiore" Secondary School, Terlizzi, Italy, telebridge via LU1CGB The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-02-06 09:09:01 UTC 40 deg ARISS is an international educational outreach program partnering the volunteer support and leadership from AMSAT and IARU societies around the world with the ISS space agencies partners: NASA, Russian Space Agency, ESA, CNES, JAXA, and CSA. ARISS offers an opportunity for students to experience the excitement of Amateur Radio by talking directly with crewmembers on-board the International Space Station. Teachers, parents and communities see, first hand, how Amateur Radio and crewmembers on ISS can energize youngsters' interest in science, technology, and learning. Further information on the ARISS program is available on the website http://www.ariss.org/ Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From dbecklund at tamu.edu Fri Jan 29 14:11:13 2016 From: dbecklund at tamu.edu (Dexter Becklund) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:11:13 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information Message-ID: Howdy and thanks for the Twitter mention! Here's the information about our beacon: Our callsign is WH2XGN, we will be beaconing state of health data once every 60 seconds. The broadcast frequency is 436.25 MHz at 9600 Baud. The radio hardware is a Kenwood TH-D72A ( http://www.kenwood.com/usa/com/amateur/th-d72a/spec.html). If anyone is interested in getting a packet breakdown like the one pictured or sending any data they receive from the satellite, contact Adelin Destain at adestain at tamu.edu And detailed breakdown of our state of health packet is attached to this email! Thanks for your help, Dexter Becklund AggieSat4 Ops Team Lead AggieSat Laboratory From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Fri Jan 29 14:23:18 2016 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 09:23:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8DE45A3F-FF20-456E-8AC2-43CE61862E16@mindspring.com> Hi Dexter, Thanks for the information. Attachments are scrubbed from the list, so maybe a URL to a copy would be useful. Good luck with the deployment! 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT Twitter jockey Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Dexter Becklund wrote: > > Howdy and thanks for the Twitter mention! > > Here's the information about our beacon: > Our callsign is WH2XGN, we will be beaconing state of health data once > every 60 seconds. The broadcast frequency is 436.25 MHz at 9600 Baud. The > radio hardware is a Kenwood TH-D72A ( > http://www.kenwood.com/usa/com/amateur/th-d72a/spec.html). If anyone is > interested in getting a packet breakdown like the one pictured or sending > any data they receive from the satellite, contact Adelin Destain at > adestain at tamu.edu > > And detailed breakdown of our state of health packet is attached to this > email! > > Thanks for your help, > Dexter Becklund > AggieSat4 Ops Team Lead > AggieSat Laboratory > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From dbecklund at tamu.edu Fri Jan 29 14:52:11 2016 From: dbecklund at tamu.edu (Dexter Becklund) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:52:11 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information In-Reply-To: <8DE45A3F-FF20-456E-8AC2-43CE61862E16@mindspring.com> References: <8DE45A3F-FF20-456E-8AC2-43CE61862E16@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Howdy, here's a dropbox link to the beacon data https://www.dropbox.com/s/y6zg9npdmx4m196/beacon.csv?dl=0 On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner < glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > Hi Dexter, > > Thanks for the information. Attachments are scrubbed from the list, so > maybe a URL to a copy would be useful. Good luck with the deployment! > > 73, Drew KO4MA > AMSAT Twitter jockey > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 29, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Dexter Becklund wrote: > > > > Howdy and thanks for the Twitter mention! > > > > Here's the information about our beacon: > > Our callsign is WH2XGN, we will be beaconing state of health data once > > every 60 seconds. The broadcast frequency is 436.25 MHz at 9600 Baud. The > > radio hardware is a Kenwood TH-D72A ( > > http://www.kenwood.com/usa/com/amateur/th-d72a/spec.html). If anyone is > > interested in getting a packet breakdown like the one pictured or sending > > any data they receive from the satellite, contact Adelin Destain at > > adestain at tamu.edu > > > > And detailed breakdown of our state of health packet is attached to this > > email! > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Dexter Becklund > > AggieSat4 Ops Team Lead > > AggieSat Laboratory > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From vimone at alice.it Fri Jan 29 14:57:00 2016 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 15:57:00 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] RX and decoding 1K2 BPSK Satellites Message-ID: Please anybody can tell me which program to use to catch and decode the 1k2BPSK Satellites trough SDRSharp? Thanks Enzo 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ********************************** ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** *** 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it *** ********************************* From rjlawn at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 15:17:19 2016 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 10:17:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas for Satellite & EME Message-ID: I've never devoted much time to VHF/UHF operation aside from satellite operation and now in retirement I'm thinking of exploring this new dimension. Since I don't have a lot of space for really long boom yagis and separate installations for satellite and EME operation I'm looking for an antenna system that would do double duty. I'd be interested in any suggestion the group might have in terms of antennas that would work well for both activities as I could replace my current M2 yagis with something else for 2/435 and maybe 1.2 ghz. TNX 73 RIck, W2JAZ From AJ9N at aol.com Fri Jan 29 16:02:19 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 11:02:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-29 16:00 UTC Message-ID: <28a6eb.49dbc813.43dce70b@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-29 16:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand, direct via E29AJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-01-30 11:06:23 UTC 63 deg Christ The King School, Rutland, Vermont, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-02-04 18:28:16 UTC 88 deg "Gesmundo Moro Fiore" Secondary School, Terlizzi, Italy, telebridge via LU1CGB The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-02-06 09:09:01 UTC 40 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 115 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-29 16:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1019. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 984. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-20 23:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Jan 29 17:08:52 2016 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 12:08:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand Message-ID: <136B942F8E254A91BEF56F8AD918E8A5@DHJ> PLEASE NOTE: There has been a correction to question #14 from our previous press release posting. An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand on 30 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 11:06 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between OR4ISS and E29AJ. The contact should be audible over Thailand and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. PSU. Wittayanusorn School, established in 2005, is a Prince of Songkla University affiliated private high school in Hatyai, Songkhla Province, Thailand. The school serves approximately 1,200 students in 7th to 12th grade. The school's identity colors are blue and grey. The blue represents sustainability and grey stands for wisdom. The school motto is "wisdom brings lasting success and happiness". The guiding principle is "our soul is for the benefit of mankind". The desired characteristics of our students are "SMART+" which are referred to scientific mind, good manner, aesthetic appreciation, responsibility and reliability, teamwork, and +global citizenship. Green education is our school's uniqueness which focuses on education for sustainable development. PSU. Wittayanusorn School is dedicated to create an exceptional teaching and learning environment in which morality is emphasized, science and mathematics concepts are embedded. The school curriculum is designed to maximize each student's potential for critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, community involvement, and responsible leadership. Additionally, the school has been selected by the Ministry of Science and Technology to be one of the first four regional schools of the country to host a special three-year science classroom program for high school level, grades 10 to 12, according to the proactive human resources development project to upgrade the science and technology capability of the country. The selection of students with high ability in mathematics and science for the science classroom program is carried out by the Institute for the Promotion of Teaching Science and Technology and closely collaborated with Prince of Songkla University. Each student who passes the selection will be entitled to a scholarship from grade 10 onwards, and subjected to certain additional criteria, he/she will be eligible for a scholarship until he/she can complete his/her education up to a doctoral degree level. PSU Wittayanusorn School was accredited with the score 97.02% by the Office of National Education Standards and Quality Assessment on May 26, 2015. 1. Is there any microorganism in outer space and what kind are they? 2. How do you clean up yourself, and how often? 3.: How can you contact your family who live on Earth? 4. What is the most important qualification that astronaut should have? 5. What is your mission at ISS? 6. How do you save water? 7. For you, what is the hardest problem in the space? 8. How do you wash your clothes during you stay in space? 9. What were your preparations before going to space? 10. If the Earth ceases to be habitable for human beings, which planet could be humanity's next home? 11. How do you deal with human waste in the space? 12. What do we have to study if we want to be an astronaut? 13. If you get a knife cut, what would the wound be like and how to heal the wound? 14. What happens if you cut yourself? 15. Have you ever seen any strange stuff or phenomena in outer space such as UFO and how does it look? 16. How does the new 7 Wonders of the World look from the ISS? 17. Is it possible to celebrate your birthday in the ISS, and what happens when you blow the candles? What does the candle flame look like and why? 18. What are the differences between seeing the stars from the Earth and seeing them from the space station? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Sign up for the SAREX maillist at http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Christ The King School, Rutland, Vermont, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-02-04 18:28:16 UTC 88 deg 2 . "Gesmundo Moro Fiore" Secondary School, Terlizzi, Italy, telebridge via LU1CGB The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-02-06 09:09:01 UTC 40 deg ABOUT ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Jan 29 19:45:08 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 14:45:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 FM Transponder Message-ID: I have noticed that LilacSat-2's FM transponder has been on nearly continuously for the past four days They may be keeping it active continuously during the holiday period in China. It's worth checking out if you haven't worked it yet. It's got a good signal and can be easier to track than SO-50 because the carrier stays active for a period when not receiving signals. The downlink antenna also uses circular polarization, so there is less fading when using linear antennas than on SO-50. Uplink: 144.350 MHz FM (No PL) Downlink: 437.200 MHz FM Keep in mind that this uplink frequency is not within the normal 145.800 - 146.000 MHz satellite subband on two meters, though this frequency is within the 144.300 - 144.500 MHz "New OSCAR subband" in the ARRL band plan and is allocated to the Amateur Satellite Service (as is the entirety of 144 - 146 MHz). On passes over the United States, quite a few packet signals can be heard through the transponder. If you use LoTW, the satellite name to use when uploading QSOs is 'CAS-3H.' 73, Paul, N8HM From jimlist at zoho.com Fri Jan 29 20:27:40 2016 From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:27:40 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Folks, I have switched her into continuous transponder mode. Plan, as normal, is to switch back to educational mode on Sunday PM UTC. Enjoy the transponder, and have a great weekend. 73s Jim G3WGM From dxdx at optonline.net Fri Jan 29 21:52:42 2016 From: dxdx at optonline.net (Tony) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 16:52:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] RX and decoding 1K2 BPSK Satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56ABDF2A.5000604@optonline.net> Enzo: MixW has a 1200 baud BPSK decoder. See: http://mixw.net/index.php?j=downloads To access the modem, select: MODE > PACKET > MODE SETTINGS. Click the MODEM tab and select "VHF 1200 BAUD SATELLITE PSK". I'm guessing you have a way of routing the audio from SDR Sharp to MixW. If not, you could use Virtual Audio Cable or the sound card loop back method. Hope this helps... Tony -K2MO On 1/29/2016 9:57 AM, Vincenzo Mone wrote: > Please anybody can tell me which program to use to catch and decode the > 1k2BPSK > Satellites trough SDRSharp? > Thanks > Enzo > > 73's de Enzo IK8OZV > EasyLog 5 BetaTester > EasyLog PDA BetaTester > WinBollet BetaTester > D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania > Skype: ik8ozv8520 > > > > > ********************************** > ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* > ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** > *** 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it *** > ********************************* > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Jan 29 21:54:28 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 16:54:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 FM Transponder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And now it's been reported back in telemetry only mode as of 21:31 UTC, so apparently my schedule guess was wrong! 73, Paul, N8HM On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > I have noticed that LilacSat-2's FM transponder has been on nearly > continuously for the past four days They may be keeping it active > continuously during the holiday period in China. > > It's worth checking out if you haven't worked it yet. It's got a good > signal and can be easier to track than SO-50 because the carrier stays > active for a period when not receiving signals. The downlink antenna > also uses circular polarization, so there is less fading when using > linear antennas than on SO-50. > > Uplink: 144.350 MHz FM (No PL) > Downlink: 437.200 MHz FM > > Keep in mind that this uplink frequency is not within the normal > 145.800 - 146.000 MHz satellite subband on two meters, though this > frequency is within the 144.300 - 144.500 MHz "New OSCAR subband" in > the ARRL band plan and is allocated to the Amateur Satellite Service > (as is the entirety of 144 - 146 MHz). On passes over the United > States, quite a few packet signals can be heard through the > transponder. > > If you use LoTW, the satellite name to use when uploading QSOs is 'CAS-3H.' > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM From saguaroastro at cox.net Fri Jan 29 23:50:37 2016 From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 16:50:37 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information In-Reply-To: References: <8DE45A3F-FF20-456E-8AC2-43CE61862E16@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <00fa01d15aef$da57b640$8f0722c0$@net> Trying to find the keps for this. Do you know where I can find them? Didn't see them in nasabare.txt Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org Thunderbird Radio Club www.w7tbc.org 623-572-0713 623-203-4121 (cell) SaguaroAstro at cox.net -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dexter Becklund Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:52 AM To: Andrew Glasbrenner Cc: Andrew Tucker; Reed, Helen L; AMSAT-bb at amsat.org; Adelin Destain Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information Howdy, here's a dropbox link to the beacon data https://www.dropbox.com/s/y6zg9npdmx4m196/beacon.csv?dl=0 On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner < glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > Hi Dexter, > > Thanks for the information. Attachments are scrubbed from the list, so > maybe a URL to a copy would be useful. Good luck with the deployment! > > 73, Drew KO4MA > AMSAT Twitter jockey > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 29, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Dexter Becklund wrote: > > > > Howdy and thanks for the Twitter mention! > > > > Here's the information about our beacon: > > Our callsign is WH2XGN, we will be beaconing state of health data once > > every 60 seconds. The broadcast frequency is 436.25 MHz at 9600 Baud. The > > radio hardware is a Kenwood TH-D72A ( > > http://www.kenwood.com/usa/com/amateur/th-d72a/spec.html). If anyone is > > interested in getting a packet breakdown like the one pictured or sending > > any data they receive from the satellite, contact Adelin Destain at > > adestain at tamu.edu > > > > And detailed breakdown of our state of health packet is attached to this > > email! > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Dexter Becklund > > AggieSat4 Ops Team Lead > > AggieSat Laboratory > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb1pvh at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 23:53:02 2016 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 18:53:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information In-Reply-To: <00fa01d15aef$da57b640$8f0722c0$@net> References: <8DE45A3F-FF20-456E-8AC2-43CE61862E16@mindspring.com> <00fa01d15aef$da57b640$8f0722c0$@net> Message-ID: Rick, I would use the ISS keps for now since it was tossed out this afternoon. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 On Jan 29, 2016 6:50 PM, "Rick Tejera" wrote: > Trying to find the keps for this. Do you know where I can find them? Didn't > see them in nasabare.txt > > Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) > Saguaro Astronomy Club > www.saguaroastro.org > Thunderbird Radio Club > www.w7tbc.org > 623-572-0713 > 623-203-4121 (cell) > SaguaroAstro at cox.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dexter > Becklund > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:52 AM > To: Andrew Glasbrenner > Cc: Andrew Tucker; Reed, Helen L; AMSAT-bb at amsat.org; Adelin Destain > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information > > Howdy, here's a dropbox link to the beacon data > https://www.dropbox.com/s/y6zg9npdmx4m196/beacon.csv?dl=0 > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner < > glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > > > Hi Dexter, > > > > Thanks for the information. Attachments are scrubbed from the list, so > > maybe a URL to a copy would be useful. Good luck with the deployment! > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > AMSAT Twitter jockey > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jan 29, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Dexter Becklund > wrote: > > > > > > Howdy and thanks for the Twitter mention! > > > > > > Here's the information about our beacon: > > > Our callsign is WH2XGN, we will be beaconing state of health data once > > > every 60 seconds. The broadcast frequency is 436.25 MHz at 9600 Baud. > The > > > radio hardware is a Kenwood TH-D72A ( > > > http://www.kenwood.com/usa/com/amateur/th-d72a/spec.html). If anyone > is > > > interested in getting a packet breakdown like the one pictured or > sending > > > any data they receive from the satellite, contact Adelin Destain at > > > adestain at tamu.edu > > > > > > And detailed breakdown of our state of health packet is attached to > this > > > email! > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > Dexter Becklund > > > AggieSat4 Ops Team Lead > > > AggieSat Laboratory > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k7trkradio at charter.net Fri Jan 29 23:59:23 2016 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 15:59:23 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 FM Transponder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007201d15af1$144465a0$3ccd30e0$@charter.net> So, no more M-W-F schedule ?? K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 11:45 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 FM Transponder I have noticed that LilacSat-2's FM transponder has been on nearly continuously for the past four days They may be keeping it active continuously during the holiday period in China. It's worth checking out if you haven't worked it yet. It's got a good signal and can be easier to track than SO-50 because the carrier stays active for a period when not receiving signals. The downlink antenna also uses circular polarization, so there is less fading when using linear antennas than on SO-50. Uplink: 144.350 MHz FM (No PL) Downlink: 437.200 MHz FM Keep in mind that this uplink frequency is not within the normal 145.800 - 146.000 MHz satellite subband on two meters, though this frequency is within the 144.300 - 144.500 MHz "New OSCAR subband" in the ARRL band plan and is allocated to the Amateur Satellite Service (as is the entirety of 144 - 146 MHz). On passes over the United States, quite a few packet signals can be heard through the transponder. If you use LoTW, the satellite name to use when uploading QSOs is 'CAS-3H.' 73, Paul, N8HM _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From Saguaroastro at cox.net Sat Jan 30 00:00:07 2016 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:00:07 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information Message-ID: Ah, didn't realize it just deployed. Makes sense now why I can't find it. Thanks &73 Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On January 29, 2016, at 16:53, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: Rick, I would use the ISS keps for now since it was tossed out this afternoon. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Samsung S4 On Jan 29, 2016 6:50 PM, "Rick Tejera" wrote: Trying to find the keps for this. Do you know where I can find them? Didn't see them in nasabare.txt Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org Thunderbird Radio Club www.w7tbc.org 623-572-0713 623-203-4121?(cell) SaguaroAstro at cox.net -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dexter Becklund Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:52 AM To: Andrew Glasbrenner Cc: Andrew Tucker; Reed, Helen L; AMSAT-bb at amsat.org; Adelin Destain Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AggieSat Beacon Information Howdy, here's a dropbox link to the beacon data https://www.dropbox.com/s/y6zg9npdmx4m196/beacon.csv?dl=0 On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner < glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > Hi Dexter, > > Thanks for the information. Attachments are scrubbed from the list, so > maybe a URL to a copy would be useful. Good luck with the deployment! > > 73, Drew KO4MA > AMSAT Twitter jockey > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 29, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Dexter Becklund wrote: > > > > Howdy and thanks for the Twitter mention! > > > > Here's the information about our beacon: > > Our callsign is WH2XGN, we will be beaconing state of health data once > > every 60 seconds. The broadcast frequency is 436.25 MHz at 9600 Baud. The > > radio hardware is a Kenwood TH-D72A ( > > http://www.kenwood.com/usa/com/amateur/th-d72a/spec.html). If anyone is > > interested in getting a packet breakdown like the one pictured or sending > > any data they receive from the satellite, contact Adelin Destain at > > adestain at tamu.edu > > > > And detailed breakdown of our state of health packet is attached to this > > email! > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Dexter Becklund > > AggieSat4 Ops Team Lead > > AggieSat Laboratory > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Sat Jan 30 08:13:31 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 23:13:31 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas for Satellite & EME Message-ID: <201601300813.u0U8DWcL019641@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Rich, Progressing to eme from satellite is not uncommon for folks looking for further challenges. But antenna requirements for eme are considerably different than for eme: 1. Obviously eme signals are much weaker thus require more sensitive (lower noise figure) receivers, larger antennas, and much more transmit power. Frequency and time requirements are higher especially if doing digital modes. 2. Antenna tracking speed is greatly reduced for eme; swinging a large eme array fast enough to track satellites might present additional challenges. 3. 2m-eme is much easier now days since it has almost completely gone to digital mode (WSJT10-JT65B). This helps running smaller antennas and less power due to 10-dB sensitivity advantage over CW. 4. A single large yagi and 1kW will work 2m-eme fairly well using JT65B. 5. Power requirement is best understood as EIRP (effective isotropic radiated power). EIRP = Po x gain ratio, where one calculates the gain ratio by taking gain = 10^(G/10), G = gain in dBi. e.g. a 15 element yagi on 28-foot boom G might be 17 dBi, g = 50 if Po = 1000w, EIRP = 1000x50 =50kW 6. My opinion of minimum 2m-eme requirements is EIRP = 12kW 7. A standard 2m-eme array has 20-dBi gain; 432 it becomes 24-26 dBi; 1296 30-dBi with those gains one is in the maintime for doing eme. You can work some of the bigger eme stations if you have smaller arrays than that. 8. yagis work well on 144 & 432 but a dish is better for 1296. four 10-element yagis on 144, eight 8-element yagis on 432, and a ten foot dish on 1296 will produce these gains. 9. I recommend you try 2m-eme first. There is a steep learning curve and 2m is easier to achieve eme with off shelf equipment. But be prepared to construct parts of the system. 10. Az-el tracking is assumed for eme. Satellite az-el rotators are not strong enough to take the loading of a good sized eme array. 11. What I have for 144-eme: 4x M2 2mXP20 (21.3 dBi) + 1300w (8877 amplifier); 0.1 dB NF preamps, DEMI transverter to K3 running on 28-MHz. I ran for several years with 150w linear amp (100w at antenna array). 12. What I have for 1296-eme: 16-foot dish with 35 dBi gain, special circular polarity feed, HB az-el tracking, 0.32 dB NF preamp, 125w Guess this will give you a start. 73, Ed - KL7uW ---------------- From: Richard Lawn To: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Antennas for Satellite & EME Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've never devoted much time to VHF/UHF operation aside from satellite operation and now in retirement I'm thinking of exploring this new dimension. Since I don't have a lot of space for really long boom yagis and separate installations for satellite and EME operation I'm looking for an antenna system that would do double duty. I'd be interested in any suggestion the group might have in terms of antennas that would work well for both activities as I could replace my current M2 yagis with something else for 2/435 and maybe 1.2 ghz. TNX 73 RIck, W2JAZ 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl Sat Jan 30 11:58:09 2016 From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 12:58:09 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TQSL on Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20160126130509.GA20821@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> References: <56A6F550.8090804@frcuba.co.cu> <20160126130509.GA20821@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20160130115808.GA979@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Quoting Koos van den Hout who wrote on Tue 2016-01-26 at 14:05: > Quoting Pavel Milanes (CO7WT) who wrote on Mon 2016-01-25 at 23:25: > > Use the kamal's PPA. > > It's a kind of super updated unofficial repository ready to use, see here: > > > > https://ppa.launchpad.net/kamalmostafa/trustedqsl > > .. which has no newer versions than trustedqsl 2.0.3 > > I'll mail the maintainer, maybe he can start updating the ubuntu trustedqsl > package again. And he updated trustedqsl in the above ppa and in the ubuntuhams repository to 2.2, so the NPOTA selections should work. According to https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/stnloc/#Define selecting the US DXCC and a US state will allow a park location to be selected. Koos van den Hout PD4KH -- Koos van den Hout PGP keyid 0xF0D7C263 via keyservers Weather maps from free sources at http://idefix.net/ http://weather.idefix.net/ From aa5uk at yahoo.com Sat Jan 30 14:04:14 2016 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 14:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] RX and decoding 1K2 BPSK Satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <424229806.2150499.1454162654394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Enzo, Try the UZ7HO sounds modem?http://uz7.ho.ua/packetradio.htm 73, Adrian AA5UK Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Vincenzo Mone wrote: Please anybody can tell me which program to use to catch and decode the 1k2BPSK Satellites trough SDRSharp? Thanks Enzo 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ? ? ? ********************************** ? ? ? *******? ? GSM? +39 328 7110193? ? ******* ? ? ? ******? ? ? SMS? +39 328 7110193? ? ? ****** ? ? ? ***? ? ? ? ? 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it? ? ? ? ? *** ? ? ? ********************************* _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From sasb.geo at yahoo.com Sat Jan 30 16:11:53 2016 From: sasb.geo at yahoo.com (Eduardo Erlemann) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 16:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CQ FO-29 and AO-7 References: <1456562987.2820770.1454170313988.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1456562987.2820770.1454170313988.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Good passes today between South America - C&CA - US East on FO-29 and AO-7I will be QRV on both. FO-29 center of transponder, AO-7 around 145.955 73 Ed, PY2RNGG66LW From ea4cyq at gmail.com Sat Jan 30 16:36:08 2016 From: ea4cyq at gmail.com (Juan Antonio) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:36:08 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] 18.00 UTC today 30/01/16, nice pass Brazil-Caribean-East USA and Spain Message-ID: <002001d15b7c$52fd9d80$f8f8d880$@gmail.com> I will have 6 deg elevation, if the OM AO-07 is in mode B, I will be there to do new and old stations. Juan Antonio EA4CYQ --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr?nico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From co7wt at frcuba.co.cu Sat Jan 30 16:43:48 2016 From: co7wt at frcuba.co.cu (Pavel Milanes (CO7WT)) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 11:43:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] RX and decoding 1K2 BPSK Satellites In-Reply-To: <56ABDF2A.5000604@optonline.net> References: <56ABDF2A.5000604@optonline.net> Message-ID: <56ACE844.2010504@frcuba.co.cu> Yoy can try Direwolf, that has a few tweaks to extract the most of the info and a good score against the TNC-TEST-CD https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf/releases/ Read the docs to know more about the tweaks and how to apply them, it has a AGW interface a KISS COM and/or TCP interface as well as can receive audio via UDP from a SDR... 73 CO7WT. El 29/01/16 a las 16:52, Tony escribi?: > Enzo: > > MixW has a 1200 baud BPSK decoder. See: > http://mixw.net/index.php?j=downloads > > To access the modem, select: MODE > PACKET > MODE SETTINGS. > > Click the MODEM tab and select "VHF 1200 BAUD SATELLITE PSK". > > I'm guessing you have a way of routing the audio from SDR Sharp to > MixW. If not, you could use Virtual Audio Cable or the sound card loop > back method. > > Hope this helps... > > Tony -K2MO > > On 1/29/2016 9:57 AM, Vincenzo Mone wrote: >> Please anybody can tell me which program to use to catch and decode the >> 1k2BPSK >> Satellites trough SDRSharp? >> Thanks >> Enzo >> >> 73's de Enzo IK8OZV >> EasyLog 5 BetaTester >> EasyLog PDA BetaTester >> WinBollet BetaTester >> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania >> Skype: ik8ozv8520 >> >> >> >> >> ********************************** >> ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* >> ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** >> *** 2nd e-mail: vimone at tin.it *** >> ********************************* >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Jan 30 18:45:42 2016 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 13:45:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 6W8CK on Satellite Message-ID: Good afternoon, Conrad, 6W8CK, will be active on satellites from IK14 near Mbour, Senegal until mid-February. He does not wish to publish his private email, but is interested in skeds with North American stations who are in range. If you are interested in setting up a sked, please look up your mutual windows and email me. I will contact Conrad with a list of operators and mutual windows. He will try to be active on CW near 145.930 on AO-7 and 435.830 on FO-29 during the afternoons, but may also be available on late night / early morning passes for skeds. Conrad is using a Yaesu FT-736R and an Elk antenna mounted up 5 meter above ground. He does occasionally lose power, so keep this in mind if you do not hear him on a particular pass. QSL only via the DARC bureau to his home call, DF7OL. He may also return to Senegal from November 2016 - February 2017. 73, Paul, N8HM From johnbrier at gmail.com Sat Jan 30 20:33:45 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 15:33:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Video: My First SO-50 Contact in Months, From North Carolina to Arizona with NP4JV, Celebrating his VUCC Award Application Message-ID: My First SO-50 Contact in Months, From North Carolina to Arizona with NP4JV, Celebrating his VUCC Award Application https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sODDuXNZ-k If you liked this video, please subscribe to my YouTube channel, Space Comms: https://youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1 73, John KG4AKV, in Raleigh North Carolina FM05 From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sat Jan 30 22:11:44 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 22:11:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] XE2AT from DL52/DL53, SO-50 @ 0035 UTC Sunday (1935 EST/1635 PST today!) Message-ID: Hi! Thanks to Omar XE1AO for the news that Alvaro XE2AT, a long- time roving satellite operator in Mexico, will be on from the DL52/DL53 grid boundary in Baja California Sur (southern part of Baja California peninsula) for the 0035 UTC SO-50 pass this afternon/evening. Omar did not mention any other details. Good luck, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From w5pfg at amsat.org Sun Jan 31 01:23:00 2016 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:23:00 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] XE2AT from DL52/DL53, SO-50 @ 0035 UTC Sunday (1935 EST/1635 PST today!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56AD61F4.1090503@amsat.org> Unfortunately, XE2AT's equipment was confiscated by the local police before the pass. Once the police have confirmed he is a licensed XE operator, hopefully he will be allowed to have his equipment returned! 73 Clayton W5PFG On 1/30/2016 16:11, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > Hi! > > Thanks to Omar XE1AO for the news that Alvaro XE2AT, a long- > time roving satellite operator in Mexico, will be on from > the DL52/DL53 grid boundary in Baja California Sur (southern > part of Baja California peninsula) for the 0035 UTC SO-50 > pass this afternon/evening. Omar did not mention any other > details. > > Good luck, and 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun Jan 31 03:27:49 2016 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 22:27:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-031 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-031 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Weekly engineering report for Phase 4 radio project from AMSAT * Write About Satellites, Space and Radio! * UFO Researcher To Launch CubeSat To Search For E.T. Close To Home * Pair of Satellites ejected from ISS for In-Space Navigation Exercise * LilacSat-2 FM Transponder * 6W8CK on Satellite * IARU Paper: APRS Harmonization and removal of OSCAR sub-band * ISS Orbit Boosted Ahead of March Crew Swap - Check Your Elements * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-031.01 ANS-031 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 031.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. [MONTH DAY, YEAR] To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-031.01 Weekly engineering report for Phase 4 radio project from AMSAT The Phase 4 Ground weekly report focuses on the current modulation schemes. We're looking at DVB-S2X to receive, and OQPSK to transmit. Repository for documents and software can be found: https://github.com/phase4ground We have nearly 50 volunteers on the mailing list and activity across the country. We're working hard to make a wonderful radio for AMSAT and terrestrial microwave, and we appreciate your support, feedback, comments, and critique. DVB-S2 stands for Digital Video Broadcasting - Satellite - Second Generation. There is a recent extension to this standard, called DVB- S2X, that has very low SNR capabilities and a lot of other goodies. The geo project, ascent, and eventually the high earth orbit project, are expected to transmit using DVB-S2X. This is the foundation of our common air interface. DVB-S2X specifies the modulation and coding for our received signal. There are five major landmarks. One, an input stream adapter. Input streams can be packetized or continuous, from single or multiple sources. This is helpful! Two, forward error correction. Our type is low density parity check codes concatenated with BCH codes. What does this mean? A concatenated code is one that combines two different coding schemes. In coding theory, there's a fundamental problem in that finding a really great code that has very low probability of error usually means that the block length has to go up, and the decoding is more and more complex. When you use two codes together that each have particular strengths, they balance each other out. You can get exponentially decreasing error probabilities, but you only have to pay a polynomially increasing cost in terms of code block length. This may seem complicated, but just remember concatenation is codes doing teamwork, and the standard that we're using is bad ass. Our inner low density parity check code can achieve extremely low error rates near channel capacity. This means, it's about as good as you can get. The outer BCH codes are used to correct sporadic errors made by the LDPC decoder, and to trick it out so that we don't have enormous block lengths and stuff like that. Three, we have a wide range of code rates. The code rate is expressed as a fraction. The top number is how many uncoded bits go in. The bottom number is how many coded bits come out. We have four constellations. This is the the type of transformation from bits to symbols. We have great choices here, and DVB-S2X provides additional choices. Four, there is a variety of spectral shaping available to us in DVB- S2. This is a really neat thing. You can change the pulse shape of a transmitted waveform in order to make it better suited for the radio environment it's expecting to be traveling through. Usually this means making it fit into a bandwidth better. You don't get something for nothing, though, so being too aggressive with the pulse shaping shows up in other aspects. Our particular shaping is different levels of raised-cosign filtering. DVB-S2X provides additional levels of shaping. Five, this standard lets us learn and develop with something very much like cognitive radio. As you can see, there are a lot of choices for coding and modulation. We can specify a fixed coding and modulation. This is called CCM for constant coding and modulation. In the past, people like us looked at a link, designed for the worst case solution, and used coding and modulation that would cover almost all the bases. DVB-S2 has CCM, but it also specifies something called variable coding and modulation, or VCM. The coding and modulation can be changed on a frame-by-frame basis in response to different station types or changes in the channel. In addition to that, there is something called adaptive coding and modulation, or ACM, where modulation and coding automagically adapts. This can happen on a frame by frame basis. DVB-S2 has things called annexes. In annex M, there's a specification for something we've already talked about wanting to do. We want to map the transmitted services or station streams into time slices and then recover information without having to demodulate the entire signal. DVB-S2 follows the usual flow of having input data coded up to remove unnecessary redundancy, which is called source coding, and then it is put into one of two different stream types. Because DVB-S2 is designed for MPEG streams, it has a lot of mechanisms for MPEG data types, and I believe that this is the transport stream path in the drawing. We aren't going to use MPEG, so we fall into the generic stream category. The functional blocks of DVB-S2 include these things in trapezoids. Mode adaptation, which starts to build up the data frames by constructing the right header to go with the data. Stream adaptation, which adds in the right amount of padding and scrambling. Forward error correction, which produces coded frames that are of one of two sizes. Mapping to constellations, which is the modulation. Finally, there is physical layer framing. An open question is how minimal of a station can be supported? Driving it down as low as possible is going to be fun and challenging. What we are anticipating is that the space teams will obtain an implementation of a DVB-S2X transmitter. Talks are already underway for this. Phase 4 ground is going to engineer the various DVB-S2X receivers. Standards documents are already in the repository and work is beginning. Get off the bench and hit the books! So let's talk a bit about some changes in the uplink for phase 4 radios. We were MSK, or minimum shift keying, but we are now OQPSK, or offset quadrature phase shift keying. That is what the payload team is currently designing for. Like MSK, Offset QPSK has no more than a 90 degree phase shift at a time. This is good. In order to create this, you begin with a QPSK signal, where you take two data bits at a time. These two binary data bits make four distinct values. Each of these values are mapped onto four transmit phase shifts. For offset QPSK, the odd and even bits coming into the modulator have a timing offset, of one bit period. Hence the name. That means the in-phase and quadrature signals, the I and the Q, never change at the same time. The power spectral density of QPSK and Offset QPSK is the same. The shift in time doesn't effect that. Uplink experiments are beginning. We started putting together Team HackRF, which will investigate the use of HackRF SDRs as one of the phase 4 radio recipes. Lots of other experiments to work out other recipes for amateurs to experiment need to happen too. If you have a set of hardware and you want to work in parallel, then speak up. The USRPs will get into the act ASAP, some people have BladeRFs, and so on. Review the weekly report at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0CMv0pJHgY&feature=share [ANS thanks Michelle W5NYV for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Write About Satellites, Space and Radio! The AMSAT Journal is seeking interesting articles about amateur radio satellites, space and radio ? topics that feed the passion of AMSAT members. Whether the focus is working the birds, new products, building a new piece of equipment or an entire station, writing software, training or doing demos, or anything else related to amateur radio in space, please consider sharing your experience and expertise with other AMSAT members by writing for the Journal. Desired article length (rough guidelines): Short articles ? 800-1400 words Longer articles ? 2000-2500 words Find out more about writer?s guidelines here. Photos, diagrams or other images always help illustrate your points or projects. If you are interested in seeing your byline in The AMSAT Journal and sharing what you?ve learned with other members, email us at journal at amsat.org. [ANS thanks Joseph KB6IGK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- UFO Researcher To Launch CubeSat To Search For E.T. Close To Home An engineer turned UFO researcher is hoping to launch a low-earth orbit CubeSat to search for evidence of extraterrestrial life. Canadian Dave Cote has assembled a seven-person team to design, fund, build and launch the project that he hopes will provide some answers about the origins of recent unidentified object sightings across the globe. ?We have had astronauts, military personnel, police officers and the former Defence Minister of Canada come forward stating that extraterrestrial UFOs are real, and that we are being visited,? says Cote. ?How can this be ignored and brushed off as nonsense?? Concerned that the public isn?t getting straight answers, the group has turned to crowdsourcing the project on Kickstarter. Measuring roughly the size of a shoebox, CubeSats can pack a lot of science equipment into a small space. They have also made satellite deployment much more affordable, in some cases costing less than the price of a lower-end automobile. Sites like CubeSatShop.com have taken much of the complexity out of ordering needed components. Cote says they?re a ?go for launch? already but are looking for more funding so they can pack it with as much science equipment as possible. They aim to include image, infrared, electromagnetic, and radiation sensors. This would give them the capability of not only verifying visual data, but also correlating it with other events such as electromagnetic and radioactive fluctuations. The team plans to measure ionized radiation with a scintillation counter and two cameras will capture a near 360-degree view around the CubeSat. They plan to remove the infrared filters on the cameras to cover more of the visual range. Cote hopes to use amateur radio frequencies to transmit the data back to earth and a worldwide network of ham volunteers to receive it. ?We are planning to use the ham frequencies to send data down from the CubeSat to earth in hex or datafax protocol,? says Cote. ?From what we understand, we should be able to send a 100kB packet every few minutes and this will enable us to send image thumbnails from space, along with some basic EM data.? While the details of the transmissions have yet to be determined, Cote hopes to assemble a worldwide team of hams willing to receive and log whatever data the satellite captures. ?We need help from the ham community, in capturing the data and relaying it to our site,? he says. ?There will be a 15-minute window for download from the CubeSat, and then another volunteer would be needed for the next 15-minute time window.? Cote is cautiously optimistic that the satellite will provide corroboration of UFO reports from eyewitnesses on Earth. But even if the satellite doesn?t capture evidence of faraway visitors, he?s hopeful that it will record interesting natural phenomenon like meteors and solar flares. ?We can only hope that those who would like to know the truth will step forward and help,? he says. To learn more about the project or to volunteer, visit their KickStarter page. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1889966504/cubesat-for-disclosure [ANS thanks Matt W1MST and AmateurRadio.com for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Pair of Satellites ejected from ISS for In-Space Navigation Exercise A package of two satellites was ejected from the International Space Station on Friday to begin a mission dedicated to a demonstration of autonomous navigation, rendezvous and docking technology. The second LONESTAR mission is comprised of two satellites built by two American Universities to undertake a demonstration of communication cross links, data exchange, GPS-based navigation, relative navigation, stationkeeping and data transmission to the ground. LONESTAR stands for "Low Earth Orbiting Navigation Experiment for Spacecraft Testing Autonomous Rendezvous and Docking" and includes four missions flown over a period of years in a cost-effective technology development program with the goal of mastering autonomous rendezvous and docking. The second LONESTAR mission consists of the AggieSat4 satellite built at Texas A&M and BEVO-2 built by students at the University of Texas. The smaller BEVO-2 satellite is facilitated within a deployer on the AggieSat4 spacecraft to be released once the two have flown well clear of the International Space Station. The two satellites, already packaged, were sent to the Space Station aboard the Cygnus OA-4 mission. Launching satellites to ISS for deployment has the advantage of allowing the satellites to be launched well-packaged to avoid damage and providing the opportunity of an inspection in space to check for any damage encountered during launch before committing them to flight. Given the size of the AggieSat4 satellite, the deployment conducted on Friday made use of the SSIKLOPS deployment mechanism, going by the full name "Space Station Integrated Kinetic Launcher for Orbital Payload Systems." SSIKLOPS can be used to deploy larger satellites of different shapes up to a mass of 110 Kilograms. It is a flat structure that includes grapple fixtures for the robotic arms of the Space Station and a single grapple fixture for the satellite that is to be deployed. The fixture includes clamps and springs for the deployment of the satellite. Overall, the structure is 127 by 61 by 7.6 centimeters in size. It also includes interfaces for the slide table of the JEM Airlock. SSIKLOPS first saw action in 2014 when deploying the SpinSat spacecraft and spent most of its time in storage aboard ISS, awaiting the deployment of future satellites. Final preparations for Friday's deployment were made on Wednesday when ISS Astronauts Scott Kelly and Tim Peake installed the SSIKLOPS deployer on the Slide Table of the Kibo module's airlock followed by the installation of the Small Fine Arm (SFA) Plate on the deployer and the attachment of the LONESTAR satellite package. The slide table was then retracted and the airlock sealed off for depressurization on Thursday. The outer hatch of the airlock was opened and a careful ground- controlled operation started to retrieve the SSIKLOPS deployer and hand it from the Small Fine Arm to the Japanese Robotic Arm that was then positioned for the deployment to ensure the satellite departed to the correct direction, ruling out any possibility of re-contact with ISS on subsequent orbits. Release was triggered just before 16:00 UTC on Friday and the LONESTAR package slowly floated away from ISS, embarking on its mission that will last as long as the satellites can remain in orbit, typically between six and twelve months. Drifting away from the Space Station, LONESTAR showed slight body rates on all three axes as it slowly faded into the distance. The Mission Team confirmed they were happy with the observed body rates and declared the deployment a success. Congratulations were exchanged between the different teams involved in the deployment - NASA's Mission Control, the JAXA Control Center in Japan, Payload Controllers in Huntsville and the payload's operators in Texas. The spacecraft was programmed to power-up automatically ten minutes after release, perform a health check and start transmitting telemetry. Acquisition of signal was expected later on Friday to begin a multi-day checkout campaign ahead of the satellite conducting its de-tumble maneuver to enter a three-axis stabilized attitude setting up for the deployment of BEVO-2. The AggieSat4 satellite, developed and manufactured at Texas A&M University, has a mass of approximately 55 Kilograms and measures 75 x 75 x 35 centimeters in size. The satellite hosts body-mounted solar panels for power generation and is equipped with a three-axis attitude determination and control system with an actuation accuracy of two degrees, making use of reaction wheels and magnetic torquers. The Electrical Power System hosts two battery packs delivering an operational voltage of 34 V and a capacity of 95 Watt-hours. AggieSat4 hosts two low-data-rate (LDR) radios, a high-data-rate (HDR) radio, a crosslink radio for short-range communication with the Bevo-2 satellite, and a DRAGON GPS Payload. AggieSat4 will be tasked with completing a number of mission objectives: demonstrating three-axis stabilization, the collection of GPS data, recording video of the release of BEVO-2 with a 2MP camera, computing and crosslinking relative navigation data based on relative GPS measurements and tracking BEVO-2 based on these navigation solutions. The 4.2-Kilogram BEVO-2 satellite uses the 3U CubeSat Form Factor, 10 x 10 x 34 centimeters, employing an ISIPOD for deployment from AggieSat4. The satellite features 24 solar cells installed on its external panels to deliver power to 6 batteries operating at a voltage of 7.4 V. BEVO-2 has four deployable radio antennas and GPS patch antennas. Attitude determination is accomplished with gyroscopes, magnetometers, a star tracker and sun sensor while attitude actuation employs reaction wheels and magnetic torquers. To connect with AggieSat4 for the exchange of navigation data, the spacecraft hosts a crosslink radio unit while communications with the ground make use of a UHF/VHF terminal for data downlink and command uplink. The satellite is outfitted with a cold gas thruster module holding 90 grams of Dupont R-236fa refrigerant stored at pressure to be released for maneuvers of the satellite for stationkeeping and rendezvous exercises with AggieSat4. As the second of four LONESTAR missions, AggieSat4 and BEVO-2 build on the success of the previous mission in 2009 as part of a program outlined to make successive progress towards the ultimate goal of achieving an autonomous rendezvous and docking of two satellites. The autonomy aspect of LONESTAR is of particular importance for future missions to distant targets where communication delays require spacecraft to act autonomously. [ANS thanks spaceflight101.com for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- LilacSat-2 FM Transponder Paul Stoetzer reports: "I have noticed that LilacSat-2's FM transponder has been on nearly continuously for the past four days They may be keeping it active continuously during the holiday period in China. It's worth checking out if you haven't worked it yet. It's got a good signal and can be easier to track than SO-50 because the carrier stays active for a period when not receiving signals. The downlink antenna also uses circular polarization, so there is less fading when using linear antennas than on SO-50. Uplink: 144.350 MHz FM (No PL) Downlink: 437.200 MHz FM Keep in mind that this uplink frequency is not within the normal 145.800 - 146.000 MHz satellite subband on two meters, though this frequency is within the 144.300 - 144.500 MHz "New OSCAR subband" in the ARRL band plan and is allocated to the Amateur Satellite Service (as is the entirety of 144 - 146 MHz). On passes over the United States, quite a few packet signals can be heard through the transponder. If you use LoTW, the satellite name to use when uploading QSOs is 'CAS-3H.' [ANS thanks Paul N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 6W8CK on Satellite Conrad, 6W8CK, will be active on satellites from IK14 near Mbour, Senegal until mid-February. He does not wish to publish his private email, but is interested in skeds with North American stations who are in range. If you are interested in setting up a sked, please look up your mutual windows and email me. I will contact Conrad with a list of operators and mutual windows. He will try to be active on CW near 145.930 on AO-7 and 435.830 on FO-29 during the afternoons, but may also be available on late night / early morning passes for skeds. Conrad is using a Yaesu FT-736R and an Elk antenna mounted up 5 meter above ground. He does occasionally lose power, so keep this in mind if you do not hear him on a particular pass. QSL only via the DARC bureau to his home call, DF7OL. He may also return to Senegal from November 2016 - February 2017. [ANS thanks Paul, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- IARU Paper: APRS Harmonization and removal of OSCAR sub-band IARU Region 1 has released the papers for the Interim Meeting to be held in Vienna April 15-17, 2016. Among the papers for the C5 VHF/UHF/Microwave Committee is one on harmonizing APRS. VIE16_C5_41_1.pdf ? 144 /435 MHz APRS Harmonisation The paper covers global band planning considerations and among the recommendations says: Emphasise that spaceborne APRS must be confined to globally coordinated amateur satellite sub bands. Therefore items that are ambiguous and generate confusion in national band plans such as ?Space communications? and ?New Oscar Sub band? should be removed as soon as possible in all Regions in accordance with IARU-AC and Satellite Coordination guidance It is believed that ?New Oscar Sub band? refers to the USA?s ARRL 144 MHz band plan and ?Space communications? to the Australian WIA 144 MHz band plan. These band plans, as well as those for some other countries, show 144.300 ? 144.500 MHz as being for Amateur Satellite use. Direct link for C5 VHF/UHF/Microwave Papers http://tinyurl.com/ANS031-Microwave Links for all committee papers and email addresses of Committee Chairs are at http://tinyurl.com/ANS031-IARU ARRL 144 MHz Band Plan http://www.arrl.org/band-plan WIA 144 MHz Band Plan http://tinyurl.com/ANS031-APRS [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ISS Orbit Boosted Ahead of March Crew Swap - Check Your Elements The International Space Station raised its orbit Wednesday afternoon before a pair of crews swap places and a cargo ship arrives in March. One-year crew members Scott Kelly of NASA and Mikhail Kornienko of Roscosmos are set to return home March 1 along with Russian cosmonaut Sergey Volkov. Then, Expedition 47 will begin and three new crew members will arrive March 19. New supplies are scheduled to be delivered to the crew March 31 aboard a Progress 63 cargo craft. The orbiting Expedition 46 crew was back at work Tuesday on a series of life science and physics experiments to benefit life on Earth and crews living in space. Commander Scott Kelly explored maximizing the effects of exercise in space while British astronaut Tim Peake studied how living in space affects using touch-based technologies, repairing sensitive equipment and a variety of other tasks. NASA astronaut Tim Kopra researched how materials burn in space. Two cosmonauts resized their Russian Orlan spacesuits today, checked them for leaks and set up hardware before next week?s maintenance spacewalk. Flight Engineers Sergey Volkov and Yuri Malenchenko will work outside Feb. 3 in their Orlan suits to install hardware and science experiments on the orbital lab?s Russian segment. [ANS thanks blogs.nasa,gov for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News + A Successful contact was made between Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Kathmandu, Nepal and Astronaut Timothy Peake KG5BVI using Callsign NA1SS. The contact began 2016-01-20 08:37 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was telebridge via VK5ZAI. ARISS Mentor was 7M3TJZ. This event represents the 984th ARISS contact. A YouTube video of the evnt can be seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25gCS1JTPxA Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-27 Christ The King School, Rutland, Vermont, telebridge via VK4KHZ) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS. The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-02-04 18:28:16 UTC "Gesmundo Moro Fiore" Secondary School, Terlizzi, Italy, telebridge via LU1CGB. The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS. The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI. Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-02-06 09:09:01 UTC [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + Congrats to Steve Kristoff, AI9IN, for having worked 5 hams in the EM55 grid. To earn 5 in EM55 award #59, please check out http://www.starcommgroup.org for the awards offered. [ANS thanks Damon Runion, WA4HFN, for the above information] + The Colorado Amateur Satellite Net is held 7PM mountain time on Thursdays 6PM Pacific. 7PM Mountain, 8PM Central, 9PM Eastern For more information visit http://www.amsatnet.info/ [ANS thanks Skyler KD0WHB for the above information] + The Jan/Feb issue of The AMSAT Journal is off to the printer. [ANS thanks Joseph KB6IGK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM (former KC8YLD) kc8yld at amsat dot org From AJ9N at aol.com Sun Jan 31 04:15:34 2016 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 23:15:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-31 04:30 UTC Message-ID: <327b02.38dc43dd.43dee466@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-01-31 04:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: PSU. Wittayanusorn School, Kho Hong District, Hat Yai, Songkhla, Thailand, direct via E29AJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact was successful: Sat 2016-01-30 11:06:23 UTC 63 deg (***) Christ The King School, Rutland, Vermont, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-02-04 18:28:16 UTC 88 deg "Gesmundo Moro Fiore" Secondary School, Terlizzi, Italy, telebridge via LU1CGB The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-02-06 09:09:01 UTC 40 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. **************************************************************************** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Gaston ON4WF with 121 Francesco IK?WGF with 115 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 116 (***) **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-01-31 04:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1020. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 985. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-01-31 04:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 43/44 on orbit Scott Kelly Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF Exp. 45 on orbit Sergey Volkov RU3DIS Exp. 46 on orbit Tim Kopra KE5UDN Timothy Peake KG5BVI Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From ka3hsw at att.net Sun Jan 31 05:08:42 2016 From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 23:08:42 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-031 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins References: Message-ID: <949023812FF44A8E9A5846A59A9E237A@parents> Sorry, no way will I support a SETI-type mission using amateur frequencies for their downlink. Not with my money, nor with my station resources. This clearly belongs on commercial frequencies. George, KA3HSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.Mike McCardel" To: "Amsat - BBs" Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 9:27 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-031 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins > AMSAT NEWS SERVICE > ANS-031 > UFO Researcher To Launch CubeSat To Search For E.T. Close To Home > > Cote hopes to use amateur radio frequencies to transmit the data > back to earth and a worldwide network of ham volunteers to receive it. > > ?We are planning to use the ham frequencies to send data down from > the CubeSat to earth in hex or datafax protocol,? says Cote. ?From > what we understand, we should be able to send a 100kB packet every > few minutes and this will enable us to send image thumbnails from > space, along with some basic EM data.? > > While the details of the transmissions have yet to be determined, > Cote hopes to assemble a worldwide team of hams willing to receive > and log whatever data the satellite captures. > > ?We need help from the ham community, in capturing the data and > relaying it to our site,? he says. ?There will be a 15-minute window > for download from the CubeSat, and then another volunteer would be > needed for the next 15-minute time window.? > > Cote is cautiously optimistic that the satellite will provide > corroboration of UFO reports from eyewitnesses on Earth. But even if > the satellite doesn?t capture evidence of faraway visitors, he?s > hopeful that it will record interesting natural phenomenon like > meteors and solar flares. > > ?We can only hope that those who would like to know the truth will > step forward and help,? he says. > > To learn more about the project or to volunteer, visit their > KickStarter page. > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1889966504/cubesat-for-disclosure > > [ANS thanks Matt W1MST and AmateurRadio.com for the above information] --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From tjschuessler at verizon.net Sun Jan 31 05:55:55 2016 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 23:55:55 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT control and HDSDR via VSPE Message-ID: <002001d15bec$0cbc94f0$2635bed0$@net> Hello all, Not having a good satellite capable radio (Yet) but wanting to dabble deeper in to our world of satellite communications, I have been experimenting with CAT control of the SDR program HDSDR via the CAT interface from SatPC32 through the Virtual Serial Port Emulator (VSPE). VSPE has an option to create a serial port "Pair" of ports. In this case, you have to assign one port of the pair to SatPC32 and in HDSDR's CAT to HDSDR options, you match the baud rate in HDSDR and SatPC32 but assign the other half of the pair. Cool thing is it allows HDSDR tuning to affect the frequency listed in it's downlink window while continue to track Doppler shift adjustments provided from SatPC32. This is pretty cool. Well I have an interesting question which may relate as much to the way SatPC32's CAT control window works as much as it relates to this Virtual serial port thing. The above mentioned ability to tune SatPC323 from HDSDR works wonderfully on Linear transponder (LSB/USB) modes but not the same on FM modes like Lilacsat-2, SO-50 and AO-85. In these cases, shifting the frequency on HDSDR does NOT change the SatPC32 display and in a few seconds, HDSDR snaps back to the CAT controlled frequency. Now the difference of course in SatPC32 CAT adjustment window is the inability to shift and store the changes in frequency, or even just shift them in FM mode like one can do with Linear sat frequencies. Am I missing something here or is this just a built in feature of SatPC323 that I will need to work around by providing more appropriate Doppler.SQF setups that work for me as opposed to somebody else? Anybody who has played with this please drop me a note or share your experiences via the list so more people can lear. Thanks, Tom Schuessler 2713 Lake Gardens Drive Irving, Texas 75060 972-986-7456 214-403-1464 (Cell) n5hyp at arrl.net From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Sun Jan 31 07:33:58 2016 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 08:33:58 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT control and HDSDR via VSPE In-Reply-To: <002001d15bec$0cbc94f0$2635bed0$@net> References: <002001d15bec$0cbc94f0$2635bed0$@net> Message-ID: <56ADB8E6.8030909@t-online.de> Hi Tom, with FM sats the SatPC32 control "V" ( for "VFO") goes to "V-". Click it to "V+", then all tuning functions work like they do with SSB sats. When you tune HDSDR SatPC32 will follow and vice versa. FM sats work in fix channels, therefore the program disables the VFO feature by default. 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 31.01.2016 um 06:55 schrieb Tom Schuessler: > Hello all, > > Not having a good satellite capable radio (Yet) but wanting to dabble deeper > in to our world of satellite communications, I have been experimenting with > CAT control of the SDR program HDSDR via the CAT interface from SatPC32 > through the Virtual Serial Port Emulator (VSPE). VSPE has an option to > create a serial port "Pair" of ports. In this case, you have to assign one > port of the pair to SatPC32 and in HDSDR's CAT to HDSDR options, you match > the baud rate in HDSDR and SatPC32 but assign the other half of the pair. > Cool thing is it allows HDSDR tuning to affect the frequency listed in it's > downlink window while continue to track Doppler shift adjustments provided > from SatPC32. This is pretty cool. > > Well I have an interesting question which may relate as much to the way > SatPC32's CAT control window works as much as it relates to this Virtual > serial port thing. The above mentioned ability to tune SatPC323 from HDSDR > works wonderfully on Linear transponder (LSB/USB) modes but not the same on > FM modes like Lilacsat-2, SO-50 and AO-85. In these cases, shifting the > frequency on HDSDR does NOT change the SatPC32 display and in a few seconds, > HDSDR snaps back to the CAT controlled frequency. Now the difference of > course in SatPC32 CAT adjustment window is the inability to shift and store > the changes in frequency, or even just shift them in FM mode like one can > do with Linear sat frequencies. > > Am I missing something here or is this just a built in feature of SatPC323 > that I will need to work around by providing more appropriate Doppler.SQF > setups that work for me as opposed to somebody else? > > Anybody who has played with this please drop me a note or share your > experiences via the list so more people can lear. > > Thanks, > > > Tom Schuessler > 2713 Lake Gardens Drive > Irving, Texas 75060 > 972-986-7456 > 214-403-1464 (Cell) > n5hyp at arrl.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From daniel at destevez.net Sun Jan 31 10:40:29 2016 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 11:40:29 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] RX and decoding 1K2 BPSK Satellites In-Reply-To: <56ACE844.2010504@frcuba.co.cu> References: <56ABDF2A.5000604@optonline.net> <56ACE844.2010504@frcuba.co.cu> Message-ID: <56ADE49D.5030207@destevez.net> El 30/01/16 a las 17:43, Pavel Milanes (CO7WT) escribi?: > Yoy can try Direwolf, that has a few tweaks to extract the most of the > info and a good score against the TNC-TEST-CD > > https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf/releases/ > > Read the docs to know more about the tweaks and how to apply them, it > has a AGW interface a KISS COM and/or TCP interface as well as can > receive audio via UDP from a SDR... Dear Pavel, Does Direwolf do BPSK? As far as I know it only does AFSK and FSK, but I'm not aware of the new features of current versions. 73, Dani. From normanlizeth at gmail.com Sun Jan 31 15:12:37 2016 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:12:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 CAT control and HDSDR via VSPE In-Reply-To: <56ADB8E6.8030909@t-online.de> References: <002001d15bec$0cbc94f0$2635bed0$@net> <56ADB8E6.8030909@t-online.de> Message-ID: My question is where to enable it by default. The setting is not persistent. On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 2:33 AM, Erich Eichmann wrote: > Hi Tom, > with FM sats the SatPC32 control "V" ( for "VFO") goes to "V-". Click it to > "V+", then all tuning functions work like they do with SSB sats. When you > tune HDSDR SatPC32 will follow and vice versa. > FM sats work in fix channels, therefore the program disables the VFO feature > by default. > > 73s, Erich, DK1TB > > > Am 31.01.2016 um 06:55 schrieb Tom Schuessler: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Not having a good satellite capable radio (Yet) but wanting to dabble >> deeper >> in to our world of satellite communications, I have been experimenting >> with >> CAT control of the SDR program HDSDR via the CAT interface from SatPC32 >> through the Virtual Serial Port Emulator (VSPE). VSPE has an option to >> create a serial port "Pair" of ports. In this case, you have to assign >> one >> port of the pair to SatPC32 and in HDSDR's CAT to HDSDR options, you match >> the baud rate in HDSDR and SatPC32 but assign the other half of the pair. >> Cool thing is it allows HDSDR tuning to affect the frequency listed in >> it's >> downlink window while continue to track Doppler shift adjustments provided >> from SatPC32. This is pretty cool. >> >> Well I have an interesting question which may relate as much to the way >> SatPC32's CAT control window works as much as it relates to this Virtual >> serial port thing. The above mentioned ability to tune SatPC323 from >> HDSDR >> works wonderfully on Linear transponder (LSB/USB) modes but not the same >> on >> FM modes like Lilacsat-2, SO-50 and AO-85. In these cases, shifting the >> frequency on HDSDR does NOT change the SatPC32 display and in a few >> seconds, >> HDSDR snaps back to the CAT controlled frequency. Now the difference of >> course in SatPC32 CAT adjustment window is the inability to shift and >> store >> the changes in frequency, or even just shift them in FM mode like one can >> do with Linear sat frequencies. >> >> Am I missing something here or is this just a built in feature of SatPC323 >> that I will need to work around by providing more appropriate Doppler.SQF >> setups that work for me as opposed to somebody else? >> >> Anybody who has played with this please drop me a note or share your >> experiences via the list so more people can lear. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Tom Schuessler >> 2713 Lake Gardens Drive >> Irving, Texas 75060 >> 972-986-7456 >> 214-403-1464 (Cell) >> n5hyp at arrl.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sun Jan 31 15:59:10 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 15:59:10 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] XE2AT (and also KX9X/5) on 1440 UTC SO-50 pass this morning... Message-ID: Hi! It was nice to hear XE2AT on SO-50 during the 1440 UTC pass this morning. It has been almost 5 years since I logged a satellite QSO with Alvaro, and he used to be among the most prolific of Mexican satellite operators who worked from different grids in that country. In fact, Alvaro (as XE2YVW, his original call sign) was my first satellite contact back in 2000, via SO-35. I'm glad his encounter with the police last night didn't leave him without gear for this morning. I heard Alvaro tell Clayton W5PFG that was "working on more". I hope he is, as it will be nice to hear more grids on the air from Mexico once again. XE2AT, and initially as XE2YVW, has put many Mexican grids on the satellites over many years. The 1440 UTC SO-50 pass came up from the southwest, and went directly over Arizona. I was happy to work XE2AT early in the pass, once the satellite cleared a house and some trees to my southwest. After I worked him, I heard XE2AT acknowledge 7 other stations with their full call signs - KC7MG, XE1AO, AA5PK, W5PFG, NP4JV, W5CBF, and XE2BHL. I heard Alvaro try to answer one station twice with partial call signs after working XE2BHL, a different partial call each time. Unfortunately, I did not hear XE2AT after the midpoint of the pass here, which meant he wasn't able to work stations for the last 4 to 5 minutes he would have had on that pass. I also heard Sean KX9X/5 working from the Vicksburg Military Park in Mississippi. Thanks for picking me up, Sean! In the last few minutes I had on that pass, I heard Sean get several stations for his log. It will be nice to see another NPOTA site show up in LOTW. :-) XE2AT has used LOTW in the past, although I have never received an LOTW QSL from him for any of our satellite QSOs. Omar XE1AO said that Alvaro can confirm QSOs via LOTW, so it will be nice if these grids show up in there. I know XE2AT has been good answering my QSL requests sent to his PO box over the years, and I'll mail Alvaro a QSL card with SASE. If anyone else wants to send XE2AT a QSL card with an SASE, I have lots of Mexican postage stamps. Please e-mail me directly, or send me a direct message in Twitter, and I can get some stamps out to you. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sun Jan 31 17:49:12 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:49:12 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] XE2AT from DL42/DL43 line on SO-50 tonight, 0100 UTC Message-ID: Hi! After working from the DL52/DL53 line on the south end of the Baja California peninsula this morning, Alvaro XE2AT plans to work the 0100 UTC SO-50 pass tonight (5pm Pacific time) from the DL42/DL43 grid boundary. This is northwest of Cabo San Lucas, near the southern tip of the peninsula. SO-50 will be over the eastern Pacific Ocean during this pass, meaning the footprint won't make it all the way to the Mississippi River. DL43 has been on the satellites in past years, thanks to Bernardo XE2HWB (worked satellites in the past, also active in VHF/UHF/microwave contests from up and down the Baja California peninsula), but not recently. DL42 is almost entirely wet, except for the small bit of land in the northeast corner of the grid - similar to grid CM86 at Santa Cruz in northern California. XE2AT mentioned earlier this morning that he plans to use LOTW to confirm these contacts, along with the contacts he made earlier this morning. He's also good at answering QSL requests mailed to his PO box in Aguascalientes, although the Mexican postal system is not the most reliable. Good luck, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK From ag6ie at wolak.net Sun Jan 31 18:46:56 2016 From: ag6ie at wolak.net (Eric Wolak) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:46:56 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any experience with low-cost 433MHz transverter from transverters-store? Message-ID: <1454266016.2355580.507727186.1F1E32A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi folks, I'm trying to get on the air with the linear transponder satellites, and it looks like I need 70cm SSB capability to really get on the air. My Icom IC-796MkII can do SSB on 2m, but not 70cm, so I'm trying to find an affordable way to get 70cm SSB transmit. Does anybody have experience with these $100 transverter boards from Ukraine? It looks like they're tuned for the weak-signal/SSB end of the band and might require a bit of work to get up to 435MHz for satellites. Is 3-4W enough to be heard? http://www.ebay.com/itm/221871269275 From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sun Jan 31 18:56:07 2016 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 18:56:07 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any experience with low-cost 433MHz transverter from transverters-store? In-Reply-To: <1454266016.2355580.507727186.1F1E32A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1454266016.2355580.507727186.1F1E32A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Eric, I don't have any experience with that transverter board, or with transverters generally. If you can get the 70cm board to operate at 435-438 MHz, it could be useful for satellite work even at 3 to 4 watts. I regularly work the SSB transponders with a 5W FT-817ND as part of my portable station. If you could get that transverter up toward 4W, it could work as an alternative to a radio like an FT-817ND. For my portable work, I use short coax runs - 10 feet between antenna (Elk 2m/70cm log periodic) and a 2m/70cm diplexer, and 3-foot runs from the band ports on the diplexer to my transmitter and receiver. Longer coax runs may not be the best for that 3-4W output, and could also require the use of a preamplifier on receive. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Eric Wolak wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to get on the air with the linear transponder satellites, and > it looks like I need 70cm SSB capability to really get on the air. My > Icom IC-796MkII can do SSB on 2m, but not 70cm, so I'm trying to find an > affordable way to get 70cm SSB transmit. > > Does anybody have experience with these $100 transverter boards from > Ukraine? It looks like they're tuned for the weak-signal/SSB end of the > band and might require a bit of work to get up to 435MHz for satellites. > Is 3-4W enough to be heard? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/221871269275 > From w7lrd at comcast.net Sun Jan 31 19:30:33 2016 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 19:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 2.4 Ghz? Message-ID: <1010032970.357066.1454268633867.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Does anyone know if there will be a S band DL on any future satellites. Are there any current sats that have S band DL for telemetry? 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle From e.krome at comcast.net Sun Jan 31 22:51:42 2016 From: e.krome at comcast.net (Ed Krome) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:51:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any experience with low-cost 433MHz transverter from transverters-store? In-Reply-To: <1454266016.2355580.507727186.1F1E32A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1454266016.2355580.507727186.1F1E32A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4BB856E5-9858-4C7D-AD22-EFD6E7A4FCB5@comcast.net> A question is how is the LO generated. If 432 gives 27, this thing has a 405 MHz LO. Satellite subband is mostly ~435-436. That would require an IF radio to tune ~30-31 MHz. Most don't. If the LO is crystal controlled, changing crystals is ridiculously expensive; like $40-60. Not a great value. The LO could be synthesized and might be modifyable. Maybe. I would write to the seller and ask if the LO can be changed. Ed Krome K9EK Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 31, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Eric Wolak wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to get on the air with the linear transponder satellites, and > it looks like I need 70cm SSB capability to really get on the air. My > Icom IC-796MkII can do SSB on 2m, but not 70cm, so I'm trying to find an > affordable way to get 70cm SSB transmit. > > Does anybody have experience with these $100 transverter boards from > Ukraine? It looks like they're tuned for the weak-signal/SSB end of the > band and might require a bit of work to get up to 435MHz for satellites. > Is 3-4W enough to be heard? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/221871269275 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Sun Jan 31 22:57:09 2016 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:57:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Video: My Very First ISS Reception from January 2014 Message-ID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBbKLYiIvD0 If you liked this video, please subscribe to my YouTube channel, Space Comms: https://youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1 It was two years ago this month that I first received the International Space Station. To commemorate that reception I decided to re-edit the original video I made of it which has received over 13,000 views to date. It was because of that video's popularity that I decided to keep making videos and ultimately, to create the Space Comms channel. Since it's always exciting to receive the ISS, I still do it today, and one day I'll make contact too! Thanks everyone for watching my videos and good luck with all your radio adventures! 73, John Brier, KG4AKV From tosca005 at umn.edu Sun Jan 31 23:12:16 2016 From: tosca005 at umn.edu (John Toscano) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:12:16 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Any experience with low-cost 433MHz transverter from transverters-store? In-Reply-To: <1454266016.2355580.507727186.1F1E32A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1454266016.2355580.507727186.1F1E32A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: The transverter itself can cover the satellite portion of the band. The specs say it covers 432 - 442 MHz. The issue is that your IF radio, the Icom IC-706MkII is what I believe you meant to say, can tune high enough on the 10M band and above for RECEPTION at the appropriate frequencies, but will not transmit above 30 MHz and therefore, through this transverter, will not transmit above 435.0000 MHz. I know this from experience with my 222 MHz transverter. Fortunately, on that band, 28-30 MHz -> 222-224 MHz, and the portion of the band above that (224-225 MHz) is mostly FM repeater OUTPUTS, which the radio will happily receive through my transverter. What you would need to do is defeat the 10M band transmit limits on your IC-706MkII. You can probably find mods to allow that. Your other issue, which I also had to overcome with my 222 transverter, is that the transverter needs (accepts) only a very low RF power signal on transmit (1-100 milliwatts) and your IC-706MkII is happy to transmit 1000 times as much power, up to 100 watts. So you will need to carefully interface the radio to the transverter to insure that the transmit power is nice and low. In my case, my transverter interface includes a source of negative voltage to feed into the ALC input of the radio, which can drop the power low enough. Interesting (=undesirable) things happen if this ALC circuit fails, or more likely, gets accidentally disconnected. I was fortunate, when I transmitted 100 watts into my transverter by accident, I only fried a 50 ohm resistor in the input circuit, and after replacing it, all was good again, The same may or may not hold with this transverter. Good luck in your search for a solution. John Toscano, W0JT/5 On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Eric Wolak wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to get on the air with the linear transponder satellites, and > it looks like I need 70cm SSB capability to really get on the air. My > Icom IC-796MkII can do SSB on 2m, but not 70cm, so I'm trying to find an > affordable way to get 70cm SSB transmit. > > Does anybody have experience with these $100 transverter boards from > Ukraine? It looks like they're tuned for the weak-signal/SSB end of the > band and might require a bit of work to get up to 435MHz for satellites. > Is 3-4W enough to be heard? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/221871269275 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tjschuessler at verizon.net Sun Jan 31 23:45:36 2016 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:45:36 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] RE; SatPC32 CAT control and HDSDR via VSPE (Tom Schuessler) Message-ID: <006b01d15c81$7bf33cd0$73d9b670$@net> Thanks to the response from the group. The V+ setting worked fine. I knew I was missing something. The CAT control via the Virtual Serial Port Emulation software is a bit finicky and sometimes may take 5 or 10 seconds to update SatPC32 as Doppler changes, Then it will seem to catch up and be pretty current. Oh well. I think though it will work for what I need. Thanks to all. Tom Schuessler 2713 Lake Gardens Drive Irving, Texas 75060 972-986-7456 214-403-1464 (Cell) n5hyp at arrl.net