[amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)

Tue Jul 5 17:49:57 UTC 2016

MOST companies will just let you use their stuff (with permission and
reference) but some will require some "fee."  If it's a ham asking a ham I
don't see how there could be a problem especially if you aren't going to
make money from it.

If you've been a ham long enough you've probably either had your own cards
printed by or received cards printed by "The Little Print Shop" in
Pflugerville, TX.  They went out of business and were bought out by another
company about 15 years ago, I think the founder passed away and the
children/grand children didn't want to continue the QSL business but they
"expanded" into other venues.  My current QSL is based on one of their old
designs.  I called and got permission to use it and the grandson of the
founder (owner of the current company) was more than happy to give
permission.

In some cases it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission
but when it comes to copyrights that's usually not the case, it can cost you
dearly.

Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
EL09uf
Eagle Creek Observatory
http://www.eaglecreekobservatory.org
I am Voltohm of Borg!  Resistance is E/I, you will be attenuated!

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Mann [mailto:cwo4mann at comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 10:55 AM
To: Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)

I forgot about that Copyright thing.  I've sent s message to RSGB Hq
requesting permission. I also offered to convert it to Kindle or other eBook
formats should they refuse copy permission.  I'll let the group know when I
find out.

Dave
N4CVX

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:31, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
<kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
> 
> I was bitten by that once.  Fortunately all I had to do was apologize 
> and ask for permission (get it in writing, email ok) and then site the 
> source on the web page.  This was unintentional on my part but I'm 
> sure the author could have really pushed the issue but he was very 
> nice about it and only asked that I site him as the author.
> 
> 
> Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
> EL09uf
> Eagle Creek Observatory
> http://www.eaglecreekobservatory.org
> I'm not very good with advice, can I interest you in a sarcastic comment?
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of E.Mike 
> McCardel
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 9:28 AM
> To: Dave Mann
> Cc: rsoifer1 at aol.com; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)
> 
> Please consider copyright laws before you copy and place this online.
> Convenient yes, but not necessarily legal.
> 
> EMike
> 
> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Dave Mann <cwo4mann at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I just now ordered it and when it arrives will scan it and post to 
>> our files as a searchable pdf.  I have a commercial book scanner and 
>> Linux .... Easy peasy
>> 
>> Dave
>> N4CVX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 11:02, Bob Cutter <ki0gqrp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Amazon has it used. 
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 9:29 AM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It's 242 pages, and I don't have a scanner.
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry.
>>>> 
>>>> 73 Ray
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: skristof <skristof at etczone.com>
>>>> To: RSoifer1 <RSoifer1 at aol.com>
>>>> Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 1, 2016 8:09 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm guessing it's many pages, but is there any way to make a copy
> available online (pdf or ???)?
>>>> Then you wouldn't have to worry about shipping it and it would be
> readily available to anyone who wants to read it.
>>>> Steve AI9IN
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-07-01 10:30, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bob,
>>>> 
>>>> John wrote up many of his findings in his Space Radio Handbook, 
>>>> published by RSGB in 1991.  If you can't locate a  copy, let me 
>>>> know and I  can send you mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 73 Ray
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