From dan at post.com  Wed Jun  1 09:00:00 2016
From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:00:00 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarization (attitude mostly)
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> I pushed back on that requirement
> due to cost and availability issues, but went ahead and installed the
> polarity switch on our CP antennas.  With certainty I can tell you that at
> random times it made a huge difference in downlink signal level.

There was discussion on the ARISS OPs mailing list as to what to
recommend to schools and what would give best "bang for buck" I am
still not 100% convinced that a RHCP/LHCP switch is indeed necessary
for ARISS contacts. The only way to confirm would be one station with
both RHCP and LHCP both receiving at the exact same time and logging
or recording the results. Most/all stations that have said the switch
helped have not compared in real time not switching. Over time the ISS
signal can vary wildly, in particular the solar panels can totally
block the signal completely from time to time. There is a couple of
stations with dual VHF circular systems (mostly ARISS tele-bridge
ground stations) and I have asked them to help. Until we have real
world comparisons at least in the case of the ISS, I am not sure a
switch is needed. Can someone do tests to check?

From rw3xl at ya.ru  Wed Jun  1 10:03:37 2016
From: rw3xl at ya.ru (Blinov Igor)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:03:37 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarization (attitude mostly)
In-Reply-To: <CAF3DnKjEAeJob7OQ_dnEydowb=+aKZ6+y-oK8jxhW0T9+4mf8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7a89efd0087577f906ca6be9842498c8@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPonRZ9yyGy17RNghoOhwn=4z2K9K6_rg-SL9gVG5J1wt_9RPg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <3714141464775417@web26h.yandex.ru>

I'm working via SO-50 with different two antenna(436CP42UG, one RHCP, one LHCP, single mast, single rotator), which connect to two different radio, which connect audio output to different headphones. Observation is - when signal is going to zero in one channel, other channel is going up to maximum level. For one pass situation changes 4-6 times.

01.06.2016, 12:00, "Daniel Cussen" <dan at post.com>:
>> ?I pushed back on that requirement
>> ?due to cost and availability issues, but went ahead and installed the
>> ?polarity switch on our CP antennas. With certainty I can tell you that at
>> ?random times it made a huge difference in downlink signal level.
>
> There was discussion on the ARISS OPs mailing list as to what to
> recommend to schools and what would give best "bang for buck" I am
> still not 100% convinced that a RHCP/LHCP switch is indeed necessary
> for ARISS contacts. The only way to confirm would be one station with
> both RHCP and LHCP both receiving at the exact same time and logging
> or recording the results. Most/all stations that have said the switch
> helped have not compared in real time not switching. Over time the ISS
> signal can vary wildly, in particular the solar panels can totally
> block the signal completely from time to time. There is a couple of
> stations with dual VHF circular systems (mostly ARISS tele-bridge
> ground stations) and I have asked them to help. Until we have real
> world comparisons at least in the case of the ISS, I am not sure a
> switch is needed. Can someone do tests to check?
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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--?
? ?????????, ?????, RW3XL

From zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com  Wed Jun  1 11:19:41 2016
From: zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?xb1pbHZpbmFzIEF0a2/EjWnFq25hcw==?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:19:41 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>
	<CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT LNB)

Zilvis LY2SS

2016-05-31 17:28 GMT+03:00 Rico van Genugten <rico.van.genugten at gmail.com>:

> Hi Remco,
>
> Sounds like you made a lot of progress on your Es'HailSat2 groundstation
> already. I would be interested to learn more about your transverter design
> and where you got the UMTS PA, and I'm sure some other people on this list
> too. :)
>
> Rico PA3RVG
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Remco <pa3fym at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> > >What are other folks planning to use on the uplink 2400 MHz and the down
> > >link at 10,489 MHz, for the narrowband linear transponder ?
> > I will use a cheap injection locked X-band PLL LNB with dielectric rod
> > and additional converter to let the NB transponder land inside one of the
> > bands my transceivers accomodate.
> > For the S-band uplink a dedicated (simple!) TX converter is now
> prototyped.
> > Output of the converter will be around 5 dBm to be inserted in an old
> UMTS
> > (2.1 GHz) module, capable of delivering around 20 - 30W at 2400 MHz on
> the
> > bench with this drive. Of course uplink output can be tweaked.
> > I am also busy with the dual band feed, of which the downlink of course
> is
> > inside the LNB.
> >
> > For the uplink I made a 6 turn LHCP helix but am now fiddling with the
> > matching due to
> > mechanical boundary conditions. At this moment of writing I (still)
> > haven't a good match
> > but I reckon this mechanical issue will be solved soon.
> > Secondly I need to experiment with the phase centers of both up- and
> > downlink
> > to maximise overall efficiency. Even when I'm not able to equalise both
> > phase centers
> > I have some room in my uplink budget to compensate for suboptimal
> > illumination.
> > In my prototype the LNB looks 'through' the helix.
> > Antenna will be a Triax 88cm broadcast satellite dish with f/D of around
> > 0.6.
> > All internal frequencies will be/are locked to GPS which allows my idea
> of
> > building a
> > SUT (satellite user terminal) [for portable use] in conjunction with one
> > (1) transceiver.
> > In other words, my concept will be that Es'hail2 behaves like a normal
> > amateur band, albeit with some delay ;-)
> > Remco PA3FYM
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> >
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun  1 16:11:01 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:11:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarization (attitude mostly)
In-Reply-To: <CAF3DnKjEAeJob7OQ_dnEydowb=+aKZ6+y-oK8jxhW0T9+4mf8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7a89efd0087577f906ca6be9842498c8@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPonRZ9yyGy17RNghoOhwn=4z2K9K6_rg-SL9gVG5J1wt_9RPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF3DnKjEAeJob7OQ_dnEydowb=+aKZ6+y-oK8jxhW0T9+4mf8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <514043bc47838980258c68ae6ebe382b@mail.gmail.com>

Having the RHCP/LHCP switch is better than not having it since it gives
you one more ace in the hole.  Sure, it might only  provide true value for
a few seconds due to all the other variables, but when it occurs, it is
nice to have for such high visibility events (especially if someone else
is buying the hardware)...  but for me personally, I'd probably not bother
with the complexity for just a few more seconds of null avoidance...

Just an opinion.

Bob, Wb4aPR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Cussen
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:00 AM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarization (attitude mostly)

> I pushed back on that requirement
> due to cost and availability issues, but went ahead and installed the
> polarity switch on our CP antennas.  With certainty I can tell you
> that at random times it made a huge difference in downlink signal level.

There was discussion on the ARISS OPs mailing list as to what to recommend
to schools and what would give best "bang for buck" I am still not 100%
convinced that a RHCP/LHCP switch is indeed necessary for ARISS contacts.
The only way to confirm would be one station with both RHCP and LHCP both
receiving at the exact same time and logging or recording the results.
Most/all stations that have said the switch helped have not compared in
real time not switching. Over time the ISS signal can vary wildly, in
particular the solar panels can totally block the signal completely from
time to time. There is a couple of stations with dual VHF circular systems
(mostly ARISS tele-bridge ground stations) and I have asked them to help.
Until we have real world comparisons at least in the case of the ISS, I am
not sure a switch is needed. Can someone do tests to check?
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
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From tosca005 at umn.edu  Wed Jun  1 17:26:44 2016
From: tosca005 at umn.edu (John Toscano)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:26:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>
	<CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>
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I fat-fingered my reply and it got sent before I finished it. What I was
trying to say is that a Yaesu Az/El rotator system has a cross-boom onto
which your antennas are mounted, and you want to balance the weight on the
left and right half of the boom. So, two equal-sized dishes works well, but
a dish and something else like a loop yagi can also work


On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas <
zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT LNB)
>
> Zilvis LY2SS
>
> 2016-05-31 17:28 GMT+03:00 Rico van Genugten <rico.van.genugten at gmail.com
> >:
>
> > Hi Remco,
> >
> > Sounds like you made a lot of progress on your Es'HailSat2 groundstation
> > already. I would be interested to learn more about your transverter
> design
> > and where you got the UMTS PA, and I'm sure some other people on this
> list
> > too. :)
> >
> > Rico PA3RVG
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Remco <pa3fym at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > > >What are other folks planning to use on the uplink 2400 MHz and the
> down
> > > >link at 10,489 MHz, for the narrowband linear transponder ?
> > > I will use a cheap injection locked X-band PLL LNB with dielectric rod
> > > and additional converter to let the NB transponder land inside one of
> the
> > > bands my transceivers accomodate.
> > > For the S-band uplink a dedicated (simple!) TX converter is now
> > prototyped.
> > > Output of the converter will be around 5 dBm to be inserted in an old
> > UMTS
> > > (2.1 GHz) module, capable of delivering around 20 - 30W at 2400 MHz on
> > the
> > > bench with this drive. Of course uplink output can be tweaked.
> > > I am also busy with the dual band feed, of which the downlink of course
> > is
> > > inside the LNB.
> > >
> > > For the uplink I made a 6 turn LHCP helix but am now fiddling with the
> > > matching due to
> > > mechanical boundary conditions. At this moment of writing I (still)
> > > haven't a good match
> > > but I reckon this mechanical issue will be solved soon.
> > > Secondly I need to experiment with the phase centers of both up- and
> > > downlink
> > > to maximise overall efficiency. Even when I'm not able to equalise both
> > > phase centers
> > > I have some room in my uplink budget to compensate for suboptimal
> > > illumination.
> > > In my prototype the LNB looks 'through' the helix.
> > > Antenna will be a Triax 88cm broadcast satellite dish with f/D of
> around
> > > 0.6.
> > > All internal frequencies will be/are locked to GPS which allows my idea
> > of
> > > building a
> > > SUT (satellite user terminal) [for portable use] in conjunction with
> one
> > > (1) transceiver.
> > > In other words, my concept will be that Es'hail2 behaves like a normal
> > > amateur band, albeit with some delay ;-)
> > > Remco PA3FYM
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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> expressed
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From tosca005 at umn.edu  Wed Jun  1 17:22:44 2016
From: tosca005 at umn.edu (John Toscano)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:22:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>
	<CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that covers
2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band feed,
and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to use a
commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think you are
going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G dish with
satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish or a loop yagi
or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor can handle a pair of
antennas, in fact it is almost a re

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas <
zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT LNB)
>
> Zilvis LY2SS
>
> 2016-05-31 17:28 GMT+03:00 Rico van Genugten <rico.van.genugten at gmail.com
> >:
>
> > Hi Remco,
> >
> > Sounds like you made a lot of progress on your Es'HailSat2 groundstation
> > already. I would be interested to learn more about your transverter
> design
> > and where you got the UMTS PA, and I'm sure some other people on this
> list
> > too. :)
> >
> > Rico PA3RVG
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Remco <pa3fym at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > > >What are other folks planning to use on the uplink 2400 MHz and the
> down
> > > >link at 10,489 MHz, for the narrowband linear transponder ?
> > > I will use a cheap injection locked X-band PLL LNB with dielectric rod
> > > and additional converter to let the NB transponder land inside one of
> the
> > > bands my transceivers accomodate.
> > > For the S-band uplink a dedicated (simple!) TX converter is now
> > prototyped.
> > > Output of the converter will be around 5 dBm to be inserted in an old
> > UMTS
> > > (2.1 GHz) module, capable of delivering around 20 - 30W at 2400 MHz on
> > the
> > > bench with this drive. Of course uplink output can be tweaked.
> > > I am also busy with the dual band feed, of which the downlink of course
> > is
> > > inside the LNB.
> > >
> > > For the uplink I made a 6 turn LHCP helix but am now fiddling with the
> > > matching due to
> > > mechanical boundary conditions. At this moment of writing I (still)
> > > haven't a good match
> > > but I reckon this mechanical issue will be solved soon.
> > > Secondly I need to experiment with the phase centers of both up- and
> > > downlink
> > > to maximise overall efficiency. Even when I'm not able to equalise both
> > > phase centers
> > > I have some room in my uplink budget to compensate for suboptimal
> > > illumination.
> > > In my prototype the LNB looks 'through' the helix.
> > > Antenna will be a Triax 88cm broadcast satellite dish with f/D of
> around
> > > 0.6.
> > > All internal frequencies will be/are locked to GPS which allows my idea
> > of
> > > building a
> > > SUT (satellite user terminal) [for portable use] in conjunction with
> one
> > > (1) transceiver.
> > > In other words, my concept will be that Es'hail2 behaves like a normal
> > > amateur band, albeit with some delay ;-)
> > > Remco PA3FYM
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
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> > AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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> >
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun  1 18:46:29 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:46:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <CABGf72pkSU6C5E=ooeb6saz-gFuDESwowp-Gt_0WTz4+MQ0VkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>	<CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABGf72pkSU6C5E=ooeb6saz-gFuDESwowp-Gt_0WTz4+MQ0VkA@mail.gmail.com>
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Im not following this closely, but if the bands were cross polarized, it
should be possible...?
Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Toscano
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:23 PM
To: ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite

I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that covers
2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band feed,
and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to use a
commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think you are
going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G dish with
satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish or a loop yagi
or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor can handle a pair of
antennas, in fact it is almost a re

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas <
zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT
> LNB)
>
> Zilvis LY2SS
>
> 2016-05-31 17:28 GMT+03:00 Rico van Genugten
> <rico.van.genugten at gmail.com
> >:
>
> > Hi Remco,
> >
> > Sounds like you made a lot of progress on your Es'HailSat2
> > groundstation already. I would be interested to learn more about
> > your transverter
> design
> > and where you got the UMTS PA, and I'm sure some other people on
> > this
> list
> > too. :)
> >
> > Rico PA3RVG
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Remco <pa3fym at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > > >What are other folks planning to use on the uplink 2400 MHz and
> > > >the
> down
> > > >link at 10,489 MHz, for the narrowband linear transponder ?
> > > I will use a cheap injection locked X-band PLL LNB with dielectric
> > > rod and additional converter to let the NB transponder land inside
> > > one of
> the
> > > bands my transceivers accomodate.
> > > For the S-band uplink a dedicated (simple!) TX converter is now
> > prototyped.
> > > Output of the converter will be around 5 dBm to be inserted in an
> > > old
> > UMTS
> > > (2.1 GHz) module, capable of delivering around 20 - 30W at 2400
> > > MHz on
> > the
> > > bench with this drive. Of course uplink output can be tweaked.
> > > I am also busy with the dual band feed, of which the downlink of
> > > course
> > is
> > > inside the LNB.
> > >
> > > For the uplink I made a 6 turn LHCP helix but am now fiddling with
> > > the matching due to mechanical boundary conditions. At this moment
> > > of writing I (still) haven't a good match but I reckon this
> > > mechanical issue will be solved soon.
> > > Secondly I need to experiment with the phase centers of both up-
> > > and downlink to maximise overall efficiency. Even when I'm not
> > > able to equalise both phase centers I have some room in my uplink
> > > budget to compensate for suboptimal illumination.
> > > In my prototype the LNB looks 'through' the helix.
> > > Antenna will be a Triax 88cm broadcast satellite dish with f/D of
> around
> > > 0.6.
> > > All internal frequencies will be/are locked to GPS which allows my
> > > idea
> > of
> > > building a
> > > SUT (satellite user terminal) [for portable use] in conjunction
> > > with
> one
> > > (1) transceiver.
> > > In other words, my concept will be that Es'hail2 behaves like a
> > > normal amateur band, albeit with some delay ;-) Remco PA3FYM
> > >
> > >
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From dan at post.com  Wed Jun  1 19:00:59 2016
From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:00:59 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <ffcf15a7b4eeb4b7f8654627ae97fdec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>
	<CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABGf72pkSU6C5E=ooeb6saz-gFuDESwowp-Gt_0WTz4+MQ0VkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffcf15a7b4eeb4b7f8654627ae97fdec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF3DnKgU3YHfR-nKtdpcqCh3+JnUGzJPtu1USPOdJQ4vMfyNyQ@mail.gmail.com>

I asked a manufacturer of feeds (RFHAMDESIGN) and they said a dual
feed was not possible. Uplink is circular and downlink is linear using
a normal LNB.

However many Europeans may have one dish for TV anyway. It is
relatively easy to mount two LNBs on one dish for 2 different
satellite positions, so one dish for household TV with a second LNB
for Eshail sat, The LNB that is offset from prime focus will see a
smaller gain than prime focus so a slightly larger dish may be needed
and a separate dedicated dish for circular uplink. That is not to say
it could not be done, but to have both at the same focal point is not
a good idea.

A rotator is not needed for EsHail as it is proper geostationary.

Zilvinas
So do you currently have satellite TV, how big, and what satellite is
it pointing at?
Also what is your location?

On 01/06/2016, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> Im not following this closely, but if the bands were cross polarized, it
> should be possible...?
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Toscano
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:23 PM
> To: ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
>
> I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that covers
> 2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band feed,
> and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to use a
> commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think you are
> going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G dish with
> satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish or a loop yagi
> or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor can handle a pair of
> antennas, in fact it is almost a re
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas <
> zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT
>> LNB)
>>
>>  LY2SS
>>

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Wed Jun  1 19:14:06 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:14:06 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ White Mountain Hamfest (Show Low AZ),
	this Saturday
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUeT8WMyEiUU+gros4oyejeQWZ4eQ+rEh78StZfvzkJx3w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I will have an AMSAT table at the White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low,
Arizona, this Saturday, 4 June 2016. The hamfest will be at the Show Low
City Hall parking lot, south of US-60 and west of AZ-260 in the center
of Show Low. This is a half-day hamfest, scheduled to end "noonish"
(around 1900 UTC).

During the hamfest, WD9EWK will be on various satellite passes for on-air
demonstrations of satellite operating. Please call WD9EWK if you hear me,
and be a part of the demonstrations. The hamfest site is in grid DM44.
All QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World after the hamfest, and I
am happy to send QSL cards to anyone who wishes to receive a card. Please
e-mail me the QSO details to get a card. If you're in the log, I will send
a card. No need to first mail a card and/or SASE to get my card in return.

I should be able to post pictures and other updates during the morning to
my @WD9EWK Twitter feed. This is an open feed, which can be viewed in a web
browser at:

http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

if you don't use Twitter. Also, my location should be visible via APRS. I
use WD9EWK-9 as my call sign for APRS, and - among other sites - it should
be visible at:

http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9

during my drive to Show Low on Friday evening, as well as at the hamfest
Saturday morning. Other than on ISS passes, I won't leave my APRS radio
squawking once I have parked at the hamfest.

Thanks in advance, and 73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Wed Jun  1 19:43:51 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:43:51 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK road trip,
	Saturday (4 June) PM & Sunday (5 June)...
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUd4Y2=jvYLHKRbyu3JOzNSWZ28tp5Z1M0U5n0nQX=4jiQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

After the White Mountain Hamfest wraps up on Saturday in Show Low, Arizona,
I plan on making a long drive around northern Arizona before returning home
on Sunday afternoon or evening. I have some of the trip planned out, and
had asked for some suggestions or comments from those who follow my @WD9EWK
Twitter feed. Looking for more suggestions/comments, I'm also posting here.

In the early afternoon, I am planning to drive from Show Low to Petrified
Forest National Park, along the I-40 freeway in eastern Arizona. This is in
grid DM55. I hope to make contacts from here with at least 10 different
stations to have this visit considered an official activation for the
ARRL's National Parks on the Air activity. Depending on how long I spend at
Petrified Forest, I might drive through the park to the south end of the
park in grid DM54, or possibly try to park on the DM54/DM55 grid boundary
inside the park.

After Petrified Forest, if there is still daylight, I hope to make a stop
at a different point on the DM54/DM55 grid boundary, a few miles/km west of
Petrified Forest along I-40 and old US-66. Then to Flagstaff for the night.
Again, depending on the time and available satellite passes, I may try to
get on from Flagstaff, which is in grid DM45.

Sunday morning and early afternoon is, so far, open. I have a few options
for that time...

1. Drive west of Flagstaff approximately 25 miles/40km to the DM35/DM45
grid boundary. This would be along old US-66, north of I-40 in the Kaibab
National Forest. Keep in mind that national forests are not part of the
National Parks on the Air activity, but this could be a chance for these
two grids to be put on the air.

2. Work from various NPOTA sites around Flagstaff. These sites are in grid
DM45, and include the Sunset Crater Volcano National Monument and Wupatki
National Monument north of Flagstaff, and the Walnut Canyon National
Monument east of Flagstaff. The two sites north of Flagstaff are close
enough where I could operate from both of them, and possibly make enough
QSOs to have two official NPOTA activations.

3. Work from Grand Canyon National Park, about 90 minutes northwest of
Flagstaff. The main park entrance from the south straddles the DM35/DM36
grid boundary, but is not a good place to park and operate. I could park
at different locations to put DM36 and DM46 on the air, but probably not
from the DM36/DM46 grid boundary which starts just inside the canyon - not
a safe place to go at that point. Between locations in DM36 and DM46, I
think I would be able to make enough QSOs with different stations to make
this an official NPOTA activation, as well as hand out QSOs with each of
these two grids. I have not operated from the Grand Canyon in many years,
but I know KL7R operated from the Grand Canyon earlier this year.

Depending on the time spent in northern Arizona on Sunday, I could also
stop at the Montezuma Castle National Monument, along the I-17 freeway
between Phoenix and Flagstaff. This site is in grid DM44, the same grid
I will operate from during the White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low on
Saturday morning, except I will be on the western edge of DM44 compared
to Show Low being on the eastern edge of the same grid.

Since I will be at a hamfest in Prescott AZ on 11 June, located in grid
DM34, I'm not worrying about trying to operate from that grid this weekend.
I will have a whole day for that coming up. I'll post more about that
hamfest next week.

Comments? I suppose this can be discussed here on the AMSAT-BB, or feel
free to e-mail me directly with any thoughts on these plans for Sunday.
You could also tweet at my @WD9EWK Twitter handle, if you use Twitter.

I will use Twitter to post updates on Saturday afternoon and Sunday while
I am on the road. If you don't use Twitter, you can follow my postings at:

http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

I will also use my TH-D72A on APRS as I drive around, with the call sign
WD9EWK-9. This should be visible at (among other sites):

http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9

Other than possibly parts of I-40 between Flagstaff and Petrified Forest
National Park on the high desert of northern Arizona, APRS coverage is
generally pretty good. In the absence of APRS coverage, I may periodically
tweet photos of a GPS receiver's display to show my location.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From mikerph1951 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  1 19:18:07 2016
From: mikerph1951 at gmail.com (Mike Miller)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:18:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Gould Smith
Message-ID: <5ddf0b64-ba8e-9fdb-be5c-6b1ce45bd786@gmail.com>

Anyone know how Gould Smith WA4SXM is doing?


Mike Miller KA5SMA


-- 


From mikerph1951 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  1 19:28:55 2016
From: mikerph1951 at gmail.com (Mike Miller)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:28:55 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] WA4SXM
Message-ID: <93d168c6-ee04-8657-08be-1dbb002b1d74@gmail.com>

Does anyone know how Gould Smith, WA4SXM is doing?

Mike Miller KA5SMA

-- 


From kk5do at arrl.net  Wed Jun  1 20:14:40 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:14:40 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Items in Store
Message-ID: <273aa217-1910-b326-78ab-a4cf264e6a2c@arrl.net>

Martha is back from vacation and Dayton. The store has been updated. 
There are very limited quantities of the new Golf Shirt, T-Shirt and 
Hats. There are 18 LVB Trackers available. If you were looking for one, 
this is your opportunity.

We also put 30 copies of the newest 2016 Getting Started in Satellites 
on the shelf ready for you to order. This new edition has more pages, 
printed in color and spiral bound for easier reading and leaving a page 
open while you do something.

73...bruce

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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun  1 20:33:43 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:33:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <CAF3DnKgU3YHfR-nKtdpcqCh3+JnUGzJPtu1USPOdJQ4vMfyNyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>	<CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABGf72pkSU6C5E=ooeb6saz-gFuDESwowp-Gt_0WTz4+MQ0VkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffcf15a7b4eeb4b7f8654627ae97fdec@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF3DnKgU3YHfR-nKtdpcqCh3+JnUGzJPtu1USPOdJQ4vMfyNyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45decbcc396ebf79d5cf4f4eee50e2cc@mail.gmail.com>

> I asked a manufacturer of feeds (...) and they said
> a dual feed was not possible. Uplink is circular and
> downlink is linear using a normal LNB.

But linear is a subset of "circular", so, couldn?t we use a dish that is 40%
larger (to make up the 3 dB loss of going linear) and use a linear feed on
the uplink so it can be cross polarized with the downlink and thus get maybe
20 dB of isolation?  Maybe that 20 dB of isolation is still not enough?

Bob, WB4aPR

However many Europeans may have one dish for TV anyway. It is relatively
easy to mount two LNBs on one dish for 2 different satellite positions, so
one dish for household TV with a second LNB for Eshail sat, The LNB that is
offset from prime focus will see a smaller gain than prime focus so a
slightly larger dish may be needed and a separate dedicated dish for
circular uplink. That is not to say it could not be done, but to have both
at the same focal point is not a good idea.

A rotator is not needed for EsHail as it is proper geostationary.

Zilvinas
So do you currently have satellite TV, how big, and what satellite is it
pointing at?
Also what is your location?

On 01/06/2016, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> Im not following this closely, but if the bands were cross polarized,
> it should be possible...?
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John
> Toscano
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:23 PM
> To: ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
>
> I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that
> covers
> 2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band
> feed, and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to
> use a commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think
> you are going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G
> dish with satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish
> or a loop yagi or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor
> can handle a pair of antennas, in fact it is almost a re
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas <
> zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT
>> LNB)
>>
>>  LY2SS
>>
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From ciaran at it-sparkles.co.uk  Wed Jun  1 20:49:22 2016
From: ciaran at it-sparkles.co.uk (Ciaran Morgan)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 21:49:22 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarization (attitude mostly)
In-Reply-To: <514043bc47838980258c68ae6ebe382b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7a89efd0087577f906ca6be9842498c8@mail.gmail.com>	<CAPonRZ9yyGy17RNghoOhwn=4z2K9K6_rg-SL9gVG5J1wt_9RPg@mail.gmail.com>	<CAF3DnKjEAeJob7OQ_dnEydowb=+aKZ6+y-oK8jxhW0T9+4mf8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<514043bc47838980258c68ae6ebe382b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <017601d1bc47$13866610$3a933230$@it-sparkles.co.uk>

For the ARISS events that have recently concluded in the UK with Tim Peake,
we used the following setup for the bulk of the contacts.

1x Wimo X Quad with vertical, horizontal, crossed left & right polarisation
switching.  http://wimo.de/xquad-antennas_e.html

1x Wimo Crossed yagi, 2x10 element http://wimo.de/yagi-antennas-wimo_e.html
Model WX220with fixed right hand polarisation.

Both antennas had mast head preamps, were fed via (separate) 50m lengths of
Ecoflex 15+ coax cables to the radio (TS2000X) through a common RF path of a
PA and Bird wattmeter.

Whilst I don't have precise numbers on the times we switched polarisation,
there were far too many occasions on all contacts where the XQuad, albeit
shorter/smaller gain and with switched polarisation etc outperformed the
larger, higher gain, fixed polarisation crossed yagi during the ARISS
contacts.  The crossed yagi however, appeared to be better when the ISS was
on the horizons.


You cannot prescribe a setup that will be 100% perfect in all circumstances
- as we say here "pays your money, takes your choice".
It is about what the operator is prepared to invest in terms of equipment vs
the expected return.  

For us here in the UK, we prefer to maintain the flexibility on the XQuad
but have the crossed yagi for safety.  Besides who else has tried
transporting a 2x10 element crossed yagi from site to site!  Oh, and one
other point that was important for us, was the difference between having six
space craft docked to the station and not having six craft docked.  That
made a big difference from TCA to LOS.

73

Ciaran
M0XTD

> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
> Bruninga
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:11 PM
> To: dan at post.com; AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarization (attitude mostly)
> 
> Having the RHCP/LHCP switch is better than not having it since it gives
> you one more ace in the hole.  Sure, it might only  provide true value
> for a few seconds due to all the other variables, but when it occurs, it
> is nice to have for such high visibility events (especially if someone
> else is buying the hardware)...  but for me personally, I'd probably not
> bother with the complexity for just a few more seconds of null
> avoidance...
> 
> Just an opinion.
> 
> Bob, Wb4aPR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Cussen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:00 AM
> To: AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Polarization (attitude mostly)
> 
> > I pushed back on that requirement
> > due to cost and availability issues, but went ahead and installed the
> > polarity switch on our CP antennas.  With certainty I can tell you
> > that at random times it made a huge difference in downlink signal
> level.
> 
> There was discussion on the ARISS OPs mailing list as to what to
> recommend to schools and what would give best "bang for buck" I am still
> not 100% convinced that a RHCP/LHCP switch is indeed necessary for ARISS
> contacts.
> The only way to confirm would be one station with both RHCP and LHCP
> both receiving at the exact same time and logging or recording the
> results.
> Most/all stations that have said the switch helped have not compared in
> real time not switching. Over time the ISS signal can vary wildly, in
> particular the solar panels can totally block the signal completely from
> time to time. There is a couple of stations with dual VHF circular
> systems (mostly ARISS tele-bridge ground stations) and I have asked them
> to help.
> Until we have real world comparisons at least in the case of the ISS, I
> am not sure a switch is needed. Can someone do tests to check?
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From w7lrd at comcast.net  Wed Jun  1 21:17:04 2016
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 21:17:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <45decbcc396ebf79d5cf4f4eee50e2cc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>
	<CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABGf72pkSU6C5E=ooeb6saz-gFuDESwowp-Gt_0WTz4+MQ0VkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffcf15a7b4eeb4b7f8654627ae97fdec@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF3DnKgU3YHfR-nKtdpcqCh3+JnUGzJPtu1USPOdJQ4vMfyNyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<45decbcc396ebf79d5cf4f4eee50e2cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <797507740.10384637.1464815824615.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>

For my example-I have a four foot prime star dish I used on AO40 (sobsob). Would not the 5/10 ghz feeds mounted side by side work. Granted not taking advantage of the entire dish but functional. Also would the small 18" TV dishes work on 5/10? I once used one on AO40. 
73 Bob W7LRD 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu> 
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:33:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite 

> I asked a manufacturer of feeds (...) and they said 
> a dual feed was not possible. Uplink is circular and 
> downlink is linear using a normal LNB. 

But linear is a subset of "circular", so, couldn?t we use a dish that is 40% 
larger (to make up the 3 dB loss of going linear) and use a linear feed on 
the uplink so it can be cross polarized with the downlink and thus get maybe 
20 dB of isolation? Maybe that 20 dB of isolation is still not enough? 

Bob, WB4aPR 

However many Europeans may have one dish for TV anyway. It is relatively 
easy to mount two LNBs on one dish for 2 different satellite positions, so 
one dish for household TV with a second LNB for Eshail sat, The LNB that is 
offset from prime focus will see a smaller gain than prime focus so a 
slightly larger dish may be needed and a separate dedicated dish for 
circular uplink. That is not to say it could not be done, but to have both 
at the same focal point is not a good idea. 

A rotator is not needed for EsHail as it is proper geostationary. 

Zilvinas 
So do you currently have satellite TV, how big, and what satellite is it 
pointing at? 
Also what is your location? 

On 01/06/2016, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote: 
> Im not following this closely, but if the bands were cross polarized, 
> it should be possible...? 
> Bob, WB4APR 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Toscano 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:23 PM 
> To: ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas 
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite 
> 
> I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that 
> covers 
> 2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band 
> feed, and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to 
> use a commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think 
> you are going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G 
> dish with satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish 
> or a loop yagi or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor 
> can handle a pair of antennas, in fact it is almost a re 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas < 
> zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT 
>> LNB) 
>> 
>> LY2SS 
>> 
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun  1 21:17:51 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:17:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <797507740.10384637.1464815824615.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>
	<CAJdc4v4g7dMYjr-3i6BOues2ZLmm79mEViBGtHiXCnsrgowRjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHFd=yY3HCwSj8rvg9cXn7aMXGHZWvBMQpejpQ25L4c7A1WJjw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<ffcf15a7b4eeb4b7f8654627ae97fdec@mail.gmail.com>
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Sidebyside would not point to the same place in space? bob



*From:* Bob- W7LRD [mailto:w7lrd at comcast.net]
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:17 PM
*To:* Robert Bruninga
*Cc:* amsat-bb
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite



For my example-I have a four foot prime star dish I used on AO40 (sobsob).
Would not  the 5/10 ghz feeds  mounted side by side work.  Granted not
taking advantage of the entire dish but functional.  Also would the small
18" TV dishes work on 5/10?   I once used one on AO40.

73 Bob W7LRD


------------------------------

*From: *"Robert Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu>
*To: *"amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
*Sent: *Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:33:43 PM
*Subject: *Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite



> I asked a manufacturer of feeds (...) and they said
> a dual feed was not possible. Uplink is circular and
> downlink is linear using a normal LNB.



But linear is a subset of "circular", so, couldn?t we use a dish that is 40%
larger (to make up the 3 dB loss of going linear) and use a linear feed on
the uplink so it can be cross polarized with the downlink and thus get maybe
20 dB of isolation?  Maybe that 20 dB of isolation is still not enough?



Bob, WB4aPR



However many Europeans may have one dish for TV anyway. It is relatively
easy to mount two LNBs on one dish for 2 different satellite positions, so
one dish for household TV with a second LNB for Eshail sat, The LNB that is
offset from prime focus will see a smaller gain than prime focus so a
slightly larger dish may be needed and a separate dedicated dish for
circular uplink. That is not to say it could not be done, but to have both
at the same focal point is not a good idea.



A rotator is not needed for EsHail as it is proper geostationary.



Zilvinas
So do you currently have satellite TV, how big, and what satellite is it
pointing at?
Also what is your location?



On 01/06/2016, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> Im not following this closely, but if the bands were cross polarized,
> it should be possible...?
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org
<amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org>] On Behalf Of John
> Toscano
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:23 PM
> To: ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
>
> I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that
> covers
> 2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band
> feed, and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to
> use a commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think
> you are going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G
> dish with satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish
> or a loop yagi or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor
> can handle a pair of antennas, in fact it is almost a re
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas <
> zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT
>> LNB)
>>
>>  LY2SS
>>
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From k9jkm at comcast.net  Wed Jun  1 21:20:35 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:20:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] WA4SXM
In-Reply-To: <93d168c6-ee04-8657-08be-1dbb002b1d74@gmail.com>
References: <93d168c6-ee04-8657-08be-1dbb002b1d74@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005101d1bc4b$7048bfc0$50da3f40$@net>

> Does anyone know how Gould Smith, WA4SXM is doing?

Gould was with us at Dayton helping staff the AMSAT booth. It was good to
see him out and about.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org



From Saguaroastro at cox.net  Wed Jun  1 22:51:42 2016
From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:51:42 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ White Mountain Hamfest (Show Low AZ),
	this Saturday
Message-ID: <qe5o4k6s39f4vblkx67cg9x0.1464821502809@email.android.com>

Are there any good SURpasses during the hamfest? I thought the favorable passes are still in the evening?

It's a busy day for me but I may be able to work an early pass.

Rick Tejera K7TEJ
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.SaguaroAstro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org

On June 1, 2016, at 12:14, "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:

Hi!

I will have an AMSAT table at the White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low,
Arizona, this Saturday, 4 June 2016. The hamfest will be at the Show Low
City Hall parking lot, south of US-60 and west of AZ-260 in the center
of Show Low. This is a half-day hamfest, scheduled to end "noonish"
(around 1900 UTC).

During the hamfest, WD9EWK will be on various satellite passes for on-air
demonstrations of satellite operating. Please call WD9EWK if you hear me,
and be a part of the demonstrations. The hamfest site is in grid DM44.
All QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World after the hamfest, and I
am happy to send QSL cards to anyone who wishes to receive a card. Please
e-mail me the QSO details to get a card. If you're in the log, I will send
a card. No need to first mail a card and/or SASE to get my card in return.

I should be able to post pictures and other updates during the morning to
my @WD9EWK Twitter feed. This is an open feed, which can be viewed in a web
browser at:

http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

if you don't use Twitter. Also, my location should be visible via APRS. I
use WD9EWK-9 as my call sign for APRS, and - among other sites - it should
be visible at:

http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9

during my drive to Show Low on Friday evening, as well as at the hamfest
Saturday morning. Other than on ISS passes, I won't leave my APRS radio
squawking once I have parked at the hamfest.

Thanks in advance, and 73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK
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From Saguaroastro at cox.net  Wed Jun  1 22:55:30 2016
From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:55:30 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ White Mountain Hamfest (Show Low AZ),
	this Saturday
Message-ID: <3efwoista2ge0hqtyxg8d09a.1464821730107@email.android.com>

Stupid auto correct, ISS passes.

Rick Tejera K7TEJ
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.SaguaroAstro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org

On June 1, 2016, at 15:51, Richard Tejera <Saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:

Are there any good SURpasses during the hamfest? I thought the favorable passes are still in the evening?

It's a busy day for me but I may be able to work an early pass.

Rick Tejera K7TEJ
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.SaguaroAstro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org

On June 1, 2016, at 12:14, "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:

Hi!

I will have an AMSAT table at the White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low,
Arizona, this Saturday, 4 June 2016. The hamfest will be at the Show Low
City Hall parking lot, south of US-60 and west of AZ-260 in the center
of Show Low. This is a half-day hamfest, scheduled to end "noonish"
(around 1900 UTC).

During the hamfest, WD9EWK will be on various satellite passes for on-air
demonstrations of satellite operating. Please call WD9EWK if you hear me,
and be a part of the demonstrations. The hamfest site is in grid DM44.
All QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World after the hamfest, and I
am happy to send QSL cards to anyone who wishes to receive a card. Please
e-mail me the QSO details to get a card. If you're in the log, I will send
a card. No need to first mail a card and/or SASE to get my card in return.

I should be able to post pictures and other updates during the morning to
my @WD9EWK Twitter feed. This is an open feed, which can be viewed in a web
browser at:

http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

if you don't use Twitter. Also, my location should be visible via APRS. I
use WD9EWK-9 as my call sign for APRS, and - among other sites - it should
be visible at:

http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9

during my drive to Show Low on Friday evening, as well as at the hamfest
Saturday morning. Other than on ISS passes, I won't leave my APRS radio
squawking once I have parked at the hamfest.

Thanks in advance, and 73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK
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From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Wed Jun  1 23:29:31 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Comcast)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:29:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ White Mountain Hamfest (Show Low AZ),
	this Saturday
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References: <3efwoista2ge0hqtyxg8d09a.1464821730107@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CE7507FD-9AAF-401B-9CD8-F3F7460C936F@comcast.net>

Tnx es 73, Mate!
de N4CVX


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 17:55, Richard Tejera <Saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Stupid auto correct, ISS passes.
> 
> Rick Tejera K7TEJ
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.SaguaroAstro.org
> Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
> www.w7tbc.org
> 
> On June 1, 2016, at 15:51, Richard Tejera <Saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Are there any good SURpasses during the hamfest? I thought the favorable passes are still in the evening?
> 
> It's a busy day for me but I may be able to work an early pass.
> 
> Rick Tejera K7TEJ
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.SaguaroAstro.org
> Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
> www.w7tbc.org
> 
> On June 1, 2016, at 12:14, "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I will have an AMSAT table at the White Mountain Hamfest in Show Low,
> Arizona, this Saturday, 4 June 2016. The hamfest will be at the Show Low
> City Hall parking lot, south of US-60 and west of AZ-260 in the center
> of Show Low. This is a half-day hamfest, scheduled to end "noonish"
> (around 1900 UTC).
> 
> During the hamfest, WD9EWK will be on various satellite passes for on-air
> demonstrations of satellite operating. Please call WD9EWK if you hear me,
> and be a part of the demonstrations. The hamfest site is in grid DM44.
> All QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World after the hamfest, and I
> am happy to send QSL cards to anyone who wishes to receive a card. Please
> e-mail me the QSO details to get a card. If you're in the log, I will send
> a card. No need to first mail a card and/or SASE to get my card in return.
> 
> I should be able to post pictures and other updates during the morning to
> my @WD9EWK Twitter feed. This is an open feed, which can be viewed in a web
> browser at:
> 
> http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> 
> if you don't use Twitter. Also, my location should be visible via APRS. I
> use WD9EWK-9 as my call sign for APRS, and - among other sites - it should
> be visible at:
> 
> http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9
> 
> during my drive to Show Low on Friday evening, as well as at the hamfest
> Saturday morning. Other than on ISS passes, I won't leave my APRS radio
> squawking once I have parked at the hamfest.
> 
> Thanks in advance, and 73!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK
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From n5uwy at arrl.net  Thu Jun  2 00:49:08 2016
From: n5uwy at arrl.net (Peter Laws N5UWY)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:49:08 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 APRStt?
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ9L2KW8P87_qmfpsvyxC+sinPivKfund2bOfLRRBxwuxA@mail.gmail.com>

How often is that mode enabled?  Just passed over EM15 and I could
hear occasional AX.25 on 145.825 but no answer from a DTMF burst ...

-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Jun  2 00:52:53 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:52:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 APRStt?
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ9L2KW8P87_qmfpsvyxC+sinPivKfund2bOfLRRBxwuxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ9L2KW8P87_qmfpsvyxC+sinPivKfund2bOfLRRBxwuxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOp6OFomdRCg-2gk+wuWSaP=5FzfaK6g+PcWAydwmWU58g@mail.gmail.com>

NO-84 only supports traditional APRS packets, when the digipeater is on.

Future satellites are planned with APRStt payloads. I defer to WB4APR
on that discussionh!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Peter Laws N5UWY <n5uwy at arrl.net> wrote:
> How often is that mode enabled?  Just passed over EM15 and I could
> hear occasional AX.25 on 145.825 but no answer from a DTMF burst ...
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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From lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca  Thu Jun  2 04:14:43 2016
From: lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca (Luc Leblanc)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 00:14:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <8CppblMhteMRC8CpqbzifV@videotron.ca>
References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>,
	<CAF3DnKgU3YHfR-nKtdpcqCh3+JnUGzJPtu1USPOdJQ4vMfyNyQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<8CppblMhteMRC8CpqbzifV@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <574FB2B3.26362.335A766@lucleblanc6.videotron.ca>







In the AO-40 era i was using this setup to mount one dish and one BBQ grill antenna on the 
same mount. I could also mount another smaller dish on this mounting.

See pictures on http://www.qsl.net/ve2dwe/



Luc Leblanc VE2DWE





> > I asked a manufacturer of feeds (...) and they said
> > a dual feed was not possible. Uplink is circular and
> > downlink is linear using a normal LNB.
> 
> But linear is a subset of "circular", so, couldn?t we use a dish that is 40%
> larger (to make up the 3 dB loss of going linear) and use a linear feed on
> the uplink so it can be cross polarized with the downlink and thus get maybe
> 20 dB of isolation?  Maybe that 20 dB of isolation is still not enough?
> 
> Bob, WB4aPR
> 
> However many Europeans may have one dish for TV anyway. It is relatively
> easy to mount two LNBs on one dish for 2 different satellite positions, so
> one dish for household TV with a second LNB for Eshail sat, The LNB that is
> offset from prime focus will see a smaller gain than prime focus so a
> slightly larger dish may be needed and a separate dedicated dish for
> circular uplink. That is not to say it could not be done, but to have both
> at the same focal point is not a good idea.
> 
> A rotator is not needed for EsHail as it is proper geostationary.
> 
> Zilvinas
> So do you currently have satellite TV, how big, and what satellite is it
> pointing at?
> Also what is your location?
> 
> On 01/06/2016, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> > Im not following this closely, but if the bands were cross polarized,
> > it should be possible...?
> > Bob, WB4APR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John
> > Toscano
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:23 PM
> > To: Zilvinas Atkociunas
> > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
> >
> > I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that
> > covers
> > 2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band
> > feed, and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to
> > use a commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think
> > you are going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G
> > dish with satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish
> > or a loop yagi or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor
> > can handle a pair of antennas, in fact it is almost a re
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Zilvinas Atkociunas <
> > zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT
> >> LNB)
> >>
> >>  LY2SS
> 












From n5uwy at arrl.net  Thu Jun  2 03:35:57 2016
From: n5uwy at arrl.net (Peter Laws N5UWY)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 22:35:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 APRStt?
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On Wednesday, June 1, 2016, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> NO-84 only supports traditional APRS packets, when the digipeater is on.
>
> Future satellites are planned with APRStt payloads. I defer to WB4APR
> on that discussionh!
>


It was Qikcom-2 I was reading about and somehow designated it NO-84 (in my
defense, it's all the same people! :-) ).

Maybe WB4APR can update us on the status of the former (which is not the
latter!).

http://aprs.org/qikcom-2.html


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From zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 06:21:58 2016
From: zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?xb1pbHZpbmFzIEF0a2/EjWnFq25hcw==?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 09:21:58 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
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Dan,

I am thinking/leaning to solely portable antenna system (in both terms -
compact ant lightweight - even umbrella style(?) because I don't like the
idea of separate dishes/antennas.

At the moment I have these things bought:
for uplink hackrf + 4W PA http://tinyurl.com/zyrr2ow (will test soon)
for downlink  same hackrf + Octagon PLL LNB

This will be simplex solution but I don't think it's bad idea considering
satellite constant position/orientation. (no Doppler/az/el tracking issues)

So time to think about antenna(s)...

Zilvis LY2SS in KO05Nq



2016-06-01 22:00 GMT+03:00 Daniel Cussen <dan at post.com>:

> I asked a manufacturer of feeds (RFHAMDESIGN) and they said a dual
> feed was not possible. Uplink is circular and downlink is linear using
> a normal LNB.
>
> However many Europeans may have one dish for TV anyway. It is
> relatively easy to mount two LNBs on one dish for 2 different
> satellite positions, so one dish for household TV with a second LNB
> for Eshail sat, The LNB that is offset from prime focus will see a
> smaller gain than prime focus so a slightly larger dish may be needed
> and a separate dedicated dish for circular uplink. That is not to say
> it could not be done, but to have both at the same focal point is not
> a good idea.
>
> A rotator is not needed for EsHail as it is proper geostationary.
>
> Zilvinas
> So do you currently have satellite TV, how big, and what satellite is
> it pointing at?
> Also what is your location?
>
> On 01/06/2016, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> > Im not following this closely, but if the bands were cross polarized, it
> > should be possible...?
> > Bob, WB4APR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John
> Toscano
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:23 PM
> > To: ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas
> > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
> >
> > I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that covers
> > 2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band
> feed,
> > and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to use a
> > commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think you are
> > going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G dish with
> > satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish or a loop
> yagi
> > or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor can handle a pair
> of
> > antennas, in fact it is almost a re
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas <
> > zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT
> >> LNB)
> >>
> >>  LY2SS
> >>
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Thu Jun  2 08:53:00 2016
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 00:53:00 -0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
Message-ID: <201606020853.u528r093020801@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>

Dual-band feed arrangements have been done on dishes used for eme.  A 
classic is 432/1296 feed of VK3UM or similar arrangement 432/2304: 
crossed dipole feed on 432 with cyl 1296 horn in the center of a 
large circular reflector plane.  But higher in mw wg horn feeds are 
normal.  Hard to get two horns in the same spot (focus).

However, I have a cylindrical wg horn made by W1GHZ which feeds 
24-GHz via wg into a smaller diameter wg section opening into a 
larger section which is fed 10-GHz via wg coax probe.  But this is 
not designed for dual-band duplex operation.

At NASA duplex operation was accomplished using wg diplexers which 
cut-off RF at a higher frequency thru phasing techniques.  2.115-GHz 
Tx/2.295-GHz Rx.

Another famous NASA operation used something called a dichroic 
plate.  The plate was put across the mouth of a feehorn so that only 
8.4 GHz signals would penetrate the fine holes in the plate but 
reflect 2.2 GHz.  The Plate was angled to reflect the lower frequency 
to another horn positioned to look at the plate.  Of course the dish 
was 64m in diameter so the subreflector did not have to be small 
(about 3m to memory).  That was used in 1974 for an experiment on 
MA-10 encounter at Venus.

I believe the 5G/10G sats are being designed with a 1m ground dish as 
standard.  1m offset dishes are common to the current Direct-TV/Dish 
Net market.  Here in AK 1m to 1.2m dish is std on houses (I have a 
1.2m).  I also have our old Dish-Net dish which is 1.8m sitting on a 
pole with nothing hooked up.

Unfortunately, ExHail will not be above horizon in Alaska.

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From pa3fym at amsat.org  Thu Jun  2 10:05:13 2016
From: pa3fym at amsat.org (Remco)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:05:13 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
Message-ID: <201606021205.13732.pa3fym@amsat.org>

Having posted my setup at the end of last month and
seeing that my mail program wrapped line feeds, decreasing
readibility, here again my description and perspective.


Es'hail2 will not differ from any other geostationary broadcast satellite
in a sense that it's a 'full duplex' repeater with some time delay. 


I reckon this time delay inhibits actual full duplex operation,
just like the TV reporter for a 'live stand up' in the TV news via
a satellite link having an earplug with all audio except himself ('N-1'). 


For us amateurs this means no (significant) Doppler shift, 
no LSB/USB issues etc.


Just point your dish once to 25.5E like (more than) thousands of 
broadcast satellite viewers do (without technical knowledge at all ;-)


Downlink (10.5 GHz):
For narrow band usage frequency and stability is paramount. 
For 10.5 GHz we're helped by the BC satellite industry, offering
cheap PLL LNB's with 'HDTV precision'.


Imho this precision needs to be increased by injection locking
the LNB PLL with e.g. a GPSDO due to the large multiplification
factor inside the LNB (e.g. for Octagon 361.111111).


Noise figures (NF) of these LNB's are somewhat higher on 10.5 GHz 
due to (steep) wave guide cut off, but still usable, compared to 
the ease and price.


Uplink (2.4 GHz):
A 10W BUC (block up converter) suffices with published specs of 
the 2.4 GHz receiver above in conjunction with a ca. 75cm dish here.


I'm currenly developing a simple 2.4 GHz BUC and will use old UMTS pallets
to amplify the desired 2400 MHz output.
Picture of my UMTS pallets: http://remco.org/umts.jpg


Bear in mind, S-band power is cheap :-)


Antenna:
One dish, the larger the better. Not for the uplink, but for improving
dynamic range at the receiver (downlink) side.


I will use a surplus Triax 88cm dish (for portable / 'umbrella' use ;-),
f/D is around 0.6 (like most consumer BC satellite dishes).


Feed:
From my perspective the only challenge lies in the 2.4 GHz uplink.
That is, to make an S-band feed which phase center coincides with the
10.5 GHz LNB (which has its own 'feed' ;-)


I've no fear for isolation issues due to the large frequency difference.


I am told that circular polarisation (CP) is 'mandatory' for S-band
uplinks in general but can't find a verification for this, 
perhaps somebody else?


Anyway, we're amateurs and creative. So when RHCP uplink is too
difficult we make a linear antenna and increase uplink power with 3 dB ;-)


But, I follow the published receiver specifications . . .
Last week I made a 6 turn LHCP 2.4 GHz helix. 
(Rule of thumb seems to be 1 turn per 0.1 f/D)
Phase center of such a helix is a bit 'foggy' but from what I read lies
somewhere between the first and second turn.


I've some issues with matching it due to some mechanical boundary conditions
of the helix feed point in conjunction with the mounted downlink LNB and
relative position of the helix. 
There is an additional 'transmission line' involved and 
a 'normal' 1/4-wave stub doesn't give me the desired return loss.
So, this needs some fiddling, perhaps with a gamma match or so.


My approach is, the downlink LNB is mounted in the dish 'as usual' and
looks through the centre of the uplink helix.


Pictures of the prototype feed arrangement can be provided soon. 
They are on a camera not present here at this moment of writing.


Remco PA3FYM






From mlengruesser at amsat-dl.org  Thu Jun  2 09:23:31 2016
From: mlengruesser at amsat-dl.org (Michael R. Lengruesser)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:23:31 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite_ 2.4 Ghz /
 10.5 Ghz dual-band feed
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References: <201605311207.23055.pa3fym@amsat.org>
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Some of our members have dealt with this problem and there are already
the first positive results.
see attachment
It will appear to several publications on this topic in the near future

73 de

Michael R. Lengruesser, DD5ER

AMSAT-DL e.V.

-- International Satellites for
Communication, Science and Education --

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Am 01.06.2016 um 19:22 schrieb John Toscano:
> I don't think it is possible to create a dual-band dish feed that covers
> 2.4 and 10.5 GHz. AMSAT folks are working hard on a 5G/10G dual-band feed,
> and that is difficult. Even more complicated is your desire to use a
> commercial 10G satellite TV LNB as one of the two feeds. I think you are
> going to have to use two antennas for those 2 bands. The 10G dish with
> satellite TV LNB for one of them, and either a separate dish or a loop yagi
> or something else for the uplink. A Yaesu Az/El rotor can handle a pair of
> antennas, in fact it is almost a re
> 
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM, ?ilvinas Atko?i?nas <
> zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Any ideas how to use two antennas with single dish ? (one of them SAT LNB)
>>
>> Zilvis LY2SS
>>
>> 2016-05-31 17:28 GMT+03:00 Rico van Genugten <rico.van.genugten at gmail.com
>>> :
>>
>>> Hi Remco,
>>>
>>> Sounds like you made a lot of progress on your Es'HailSat2 groundstation
>>> already. I would be interested to learn more about your transverter
>> design
>>> and where you got the UMTS PA, and I'm sure some other people on this
>> list
>>> too. :)
>>>
>>> Rico PA3RVG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Remco <pa3fym at amsat.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> What are other folks planning to use on the uplink 2400 MHz and the
>> down
>>>>> link at 10,489 MHz, for the narrowband linear transponder ?
>>>> I will use a cheap injection locked X-band PLL LNB with dielectric rod
>>>> and additional converter to let the NB transponder land inside one of
>> the
>>>> bands my transceivers accomodate.
>>>> For the S-band uplink a dedicated (simple!) TX converter is now
>>> prototyped.
>>>> Output of the converter will be around 5 dBm to be inserted in an old
>>> UMTS
>>>> (2.1 GHz) module, capable of delivering around 20 - 30W at 2400 MHz on
>>> the
>>>> bench with this drive. Of course uplink output can be tweaked.
>>>> I am also busy with the dual band feed, of which the downlink of course
>>> is
>>>> inside the LNB.
>>>>
>>>> For the uplink I made a 6 turn LHCP helix but am now fiddling with the
>>>> matching due to
>>>> mechanical boundary conditions. At this moment of writing I (still)
>>>> haven't a good match
>>>> but I reckon this mechanical issue will be solved soon.
>>>> Secondly I need to experiment with the phase centers of both up- and
>>>> downlink
>>>> to maximise overall efficiency. Even when I'm not able to equalise both
>>>> phase centers
>>>> I have some room in my uplink budget to compensate for suboptimal
>>>> illumination.
>>>> In my prototype the LNB looks 'through' the helix.
>>>> Antenna will be a Triax 88cm broadcast satellite dish with f/D of
>> around
>>>> 0.6.
>>>> All internal frequencies will be/are locked to GPS which allows my idea
>>> of
>>>> building a
>>>> SUT (satellite user terminal) [for portable use] in conjunction with
>> one
>>>> (1) transceiver.
>>>> In other words, my concept will be that Es'hail2 behaves like a normal
>>>> amateur band, albeit with some delay ;-)
>>>> Remco PA3FYM
>>>>
>>>>
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jun  2 14:08:05 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 14:08:05 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ White Mountain Hamfest (Show Low AZ),
	this Saturday
In-Reply-To: <qe5o4k6s39f4vblkx67cg9x0.1464821502809@email.android.com>
References: <qe5o4k6s39f4vblkx67cg9x0.1464821502809@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUf353On_ODOX65Nqz_oUuRmyrpuSnEx=7c-C1DJiaPgEA@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,

I don't see any ISS passes for Saturday morning during the hamfest. I
mentioned that, since I sometimes see attempts by some stations to
send an APRS message to me during these events. If I can make my
location show up, that's what I shoot for with APRS at a hamfest.

On the other hand, if you are near the radio late Saturday afternoon,
I should be on some ISS passes from Petrified Forest National
Park in grid DM55. I am not planning to work the overnight ISS
passes wherever I happen to be late Saturday night or early
Sunday morning.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK


On Wednesday, June 1, 2016, Richard Tejera <Saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:

> Are there any good ISS passes during the hamfest? I thought the favorable
> passes are still in the evening?
>
> It's a busy day for me but I may be able to work an early pass.
>
> Rick Tejera K7TEJ
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.SaguaroAstro.org
> Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
> www.w7tbc.org
>
>
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun  2 15:54:24 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:54:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 APRStt? (and darned beacons)
Message-ID: <54a0a59aacce7101ce5ccad5bcb29b5b@mail.gmail.com>

> It was Qikcom-2 I was reading about...
> Maybe WB4APR can update us on the status of the former...
> http://aprs.org/qikcom-2.html

It is fully integrated and will launch on the same launcher as the two
AMSAT FOX satellites no sooner than August.

Other than that, I know practically nothing since it was impossible to get
a non-disclosure-agreement through the Naval Academy's bureaucracy in
under a year.  We developed and delieverd the flight unit long before
there was any progress on the paperwork.

Got my fingers crossed.  If it works, it will be the usual PSAT digipeater
but will also have a DTMF uplink for Grids and Messages and a Voice
downlink of same while also converting them to APRS packets too.

We will probably leave the DIGI off and leave it  in DTMF and Voice mode
due to so many unattended worthless beacons on the uplink that would cut
into useful live human contact time...

Bob, WB4APR

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 16:27:41 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:27:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 APRStt? (and darned beacons)
In-Reply-To: <54a0a59aacce7101ce5ccad5bcb29b5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54a0a59aacce7101ce5ccad5bcb29b5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ9ypY=aqRVKBxdJY89pns5P+Jy0Fm7qpbvfUs6+SD1UFA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
>> It was Qikcom-2 I was reading about...
>> Maybe WB4APR can update us on the status of the former...
>> http://aprs.org/qikcom-2.html
>
> It is fully integrated and will launch on the same launcher as the two
> AMSAT FOX satellites no sooner than August.
>

Great to hear!


> We will probably leave the DIGI off and leave it  in DTMF and Voice mode
> due to so many unattended worthless beacons on the uplink that would cut
> into useful live human contact time...


For whatever reason, the DTMF thing really intrigues me so I am really
looking forward to trying it.



-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Thu Jun  2 18:07:48 2016
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:07:48 -0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] Purchased LVB tracker
Message-ID: <201606021807.u52I7nNg025642@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>

I decided to backup my plans to use a very old Unitrac-2000 by 
purchasing a LVB tracker while in stock at Amsat.  If I have problems 
getting the Unitrac working I can then just use the LVB in its place.

Only difference is LVB does not support auto-tuning which the Unitrac 
handles along with auto-track.

If successful with the Unitrac, then I will offer the LVB for sale.

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Jun  2 18:27:15 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 14:27:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 APRStt? (and darned beacons)
In-Reply-To: <54a0a59aacce7101ce5ccad5bcb29b5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54a0a59aacce7101ce5ccad5bcb29b5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fb488d6e4a50119ed9ed0efa8c304790@etczone.com>

The pessimist in me thinks that some crazy person will figure out a way
to do a 24/7 DTMF beacon. 

I'm not that smart, but someone probably is. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-06-02 11:54, Robert Bruninga wrote:

>> It was Qikcom-2 I was reading about...
>> Maybe WB4APR can update us on the status of the former...
>> http://aprs.org/qikcom-2.html
> 
> It is fully integrated and will launch on the same launcher as the two
> AMSAT FOX satellites no sooner than August.
> 
> Other than that, I know practically nothing since it was impossible to get
> a non-disclosure-agreement through the Naval Academy's bureaucracy in
> under a year.  We developed and delieverd the flight unit long before
> there was any progress on the paperwork.
> 
> Got my fingers crossed.  If it works, it will be the usual PSAT digipeater
> but will also have a DTMF uplink for Grids and Messages and a Voice
> downlink of same while also converting them to APRS packets too.
> 
> We will probably leave the DIGI off and leave it  in DTMF and Voice mode
> due to so many unattended worthless beacons on the uplink that would cut
> into useful live human contact time...
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Thu Jun  2 21:02:38 2016
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 13:02:38 -0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
Message-ID: <201606022102.u52L2c9U032535@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>

Comments *** inserted, below:
---------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:05:13 +0200
From: Remco <pa3fym at amsat.org>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
Message-ID: <201606021205.13732.pa3fym at amsat.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Having posted my setup at the end of last month and
seeing that my mail program wrapped line feeds, decreasing
readibility, here again my description and perspective.


Es'hail2 will not differ from any other geostationary broadcast satellite
in a sense that it's a 'full duplex' repeater with some time delay.


I reckon this time delay inhibits actual full duplex operation,
just like the TV reporter for a 'live stand up' in the TV news via
a satellite link having an earplug with all audio except himself ('N-1').

***Why?  Duplex is totally possible - just listening to your own 
retransmitted voice might mess up your mind too much.  I suggest 
probably muting the receiver when you talk (simple VOX controlling Rx 
audio).  Rx resumes immediately upon cease of talking.  Disable to 
tune in your signal using carrier.

====snipped


Feed:
 From my perspective the only challenge lies in the 2.4 GHz uplink.
That is, to make an S-band feed which phase center coincides with the
10.5 GHz LNB (which has its own 'feed' ;-)

***LNB "is" a feed with block down-conversion (e.g. Low Noise 
Block-down-converter)

I've no fear for isolation issues due to the large frequency difference.

***Probably true as wg for 10-GHz LNB cuts off way above the uplink frequency.

I am told that circular polarization (CP) is 'mandatory' for S-band
uplink's in general but can't find a verification for this,
perhaps somebody else?

***Generally, I am hearing that the s/c will have linear antennas 
whose orientation will change depending on your lat-long on 
earth.  Common issue for eme'rs separated by large differences in 
coordinates (term is called spacial loss but refers to polarization 
angle shift with apparent location in respect to the other station).

***CP should solve this for the ground station; but designing and 
building a mw CP feed is not easy.

Anyway, we're amateurs and creative. So when RHCP uplink is too
difficult we make a linear antenna and increase uplink power with 3 dB ;-)

***Huh?  That would only be true if s/c is circular pol.  If it is 
linear you could have a loss all the way to 20-dB depending on 
polarity mismatch (see spacial loss referred to above)

But, I follow the published receiver specifications . . .
Last week I made a 6 turn LHCP 2.4 GHz helix.
(Rule of thumb seems to be 1 turn per 0.1 f/D)
Phase center of such a helix is a bit 'foggy' but from what I read lies
somewhere between the first and second turn.

I've some issues with matching it due to some mechanical boundary conditions
of the helix feed point in conjunction with the mounted downlink LNB and
relative position of the helix.
There is an additional 'transmission line' involved and
a 'normal' 1/4-wave stub doesn't give me the desired return loss.
So, this needs some fiddling, perhaps with a gamma match or so.

***I used a 33-inch offset fed dish on 2.4-GHz with a 6-1/4 turn 
helical feed for AO-40.  I used brass strap for the first 1/4 WL to 
match the feed to coax.  Matching is done by adjusting the height of 
the matching section from the ground plane.  I ended up with 3/16 
inch separation at helix end of matching line.

My approach is, the downlink LNB is mounted in the dish 'as usual' and
looks through the centre of the uplink helix.

***If the 10-GHz feed is generally cylindrical and smaller diameter 
than the Helix this will work fine.  I used a metal tube with heat 
sink covering as center support for my helix.  0.7-inch ID tubing is 
proper diameter for 10-GHz wg.  But not sure how well the typical 
12-GHz LNB will work inside a helix.

***Other geosat designs are for 5-GHz/10-GHz so not sure how well a 
Helix will work there.  Perhaps the 10-GHz cylindrical wg could serve 
as center conductor of air-insulated coaxial feed with a simple 
dipole feed on 5-GHz and 10-GHz horn extending a small way beyond the 
dipole.  This would work better with center-fed dishes of f/d ~ 0.35.

Pictures of the prototype feed arrangement can be provided soon.
They are on a camera not present here at this moment of writing.

***Attachments to Amsat-BB probably will not go thru; post http link 
to the photos, instead - please.

Remco PA3FYM


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From mlengruesser at amsat-dl.org  Thu Jun  2 22:24:35 2016
From: mlengruesser at amsat-dl.org (Michael R. Lengruesser)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 00:24:35 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <201606022102.u52L2c9U032535@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201606022102.u52L2c9U032535@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <a7a13116-a761-7dcb-39f5-068bccdc6580@amsat-dl.org>

The S-band RX antnna at Es?hailsat-2 is a RHCP antenna
NB and WB TWTA?s are feeding a Orthomode transducer (OMT) with horn antenna
So X band TX NB is V and X band TX WB is H polarisation.

73 de

Michael R. Lengruesser, DD5ER

AMSAT-DL e.V.

-- International Satellites for
Communication, Science and Education --

mlengruesser at amsat-dl.org
http:/www.amsat-dl.org

Am 02.06.2016 um 23:02 schrieb Edward R Cole:
> Comments *** inserted, below:
> ---------------
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:05:13 +0200
> From: Remco <pa3fym at amsat.org>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
> Message-ID: <201606021205.13732.pa3fym at amsat.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Having posted my setup at the end of last month and
> seeing that my mail program wrapped line feeds, decreasing
> readibility, here again my description and perspective.
> 
> 
> Es'hail2 will not differ from any other geostationary broadcast satellite
> in a sense that it's a 'full duplex' repeater with some time delay.
> 
> 
> I reckon this time delay inhibits actual full duplex operation,
> just like the TV reporter for a 'live stand up' in the TV news via
> a satellite link having an earplug with all audio except himself ('N-1').
> 
> ***Why?  Duplex is totally possible - just listening to your own
> retransmitted voice might mess up your mind too much.  I suggest
> probably muting the receiver when you talk (simple VOX controlling Rx
> audio).  Rx resumes immediately upon cease of talking.  Disable to tune
> in your signal using carrier.
> 
> ====snipped
> 
> 
> Feed:
> From my perspective the only challenge lies in the 2.4 GHz uplink.
> That is, to make an S-band feed which phase center coincides with the
> 10.5 GHz LNB (which has its own 'feed' ;-)
> 
> ***LNB "is" a feed with block down-conversion (e.g. Low Noise
> Block-down-converter)
> 
> I've no fear for isolation issues due to the large frequency difference.
> 
> ***Probably true as wg for 10-GHz LNB cuts off way above the uplink
> frequency.
> 
> I am told that circular polarization (CP) is 'mandatory' for S-band
> uplink's in general but can't find a verification for this,
> perhaps somebody else?
> 
> ***Generally, I am hearing that the s/c will have linear antennas whose
> orientation will change depending on your lat-long on earth.  Common
> issue for eme'rs separated by large differences in coordinates (term is
> called spacial loss but refers to polarization angle shift with apparent
> location in respect to the other station).
> 
> ***CP should solve this for the ground station; but designing and
> building a mw CP feed is not easy.
> 
> Anyway, we're amateurs and creative. So when RHCP uplink is too
> difficult we make a linear antenna and increase uplink power with 3 dB ;-)
> 
> ***Huh?  That would only be true if s/c is circular pol.  If it is
> linear you could have a loss all the way to 20-dB depending on polarity
> mismatch (see spacial loss referred to above)
> 
> But, I follow the published receiver specifications . . .
> Last week I made a 6 turn LHCP 2.4 GHz helix.
> (Rule of thumb seems to be 1 turn per 0.1 f/D)
> Phase center of such a helix is a bit 'foggy' but from what I read lies
> somewhere between the first and second turn.
> 
> I've some issues with matching it due to some mechanical boundary
> conditions
> of the helix feed point in conjunction with the mounted downlink LNB and
> relative position of the helix.
> There is an additional 'transmission line' involved and
> a 'normal' 1/4-wave stub doesn't give me the desired return loss.
> So, this needs some fiddling, perhaps with a gamma match or so.
> 
> ***I used a 33-inch offset fed dish on 2.4-GHz with a 6-1/4 turn helical
> feed for AO-40.  I used brass strap for the first 1/4 WL to match the
> feed to coax.  Matching is done by adjusting the height of the matching
> section from the ground plane.  I ended up with 3/16 inch separation at
> helix end of matching line.
> 
> My approach is, the downlink LNB is mounted in the dish 'as usual' and
> looks through the centre of the uplink helix.
> 
> ***If the 10-GHz feed is generally cylindrical and smaller diameter than
> the Helix this will work fine.  I used a metal tube with heat sink
> covering as center support for my helix.  0.7-inch ID tubing is proper
> diameter for 10-GHz wg.  But not sure how well the typical 12-GHz LNB
> will work inside a helix.
> 
> ***Other geosat designs are for 5-GHz/10-GHz so not sure how well a
> Helix will work there.  Perhaps the 10-GHz cylindrical wg could serve as
> center conductor of air-insulated coaxial feed with a simple dipole feed
> on 5-GHz and 10-GHz horn extending a small way beyond the dipole.  This
> would work better with center-fed dishes of f/d ~ 0.35.
> 
> Pictures of the prototype feed arrangement can be provided soon.
> They are on a camera not present here at this moment of writing.
> 
> ***Attachments to Amsat-BB probably will not go thru; post http link to
> the photos, instead - please.
> 
> Remco PA3FYM
> 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>     "Kits made by KL7UW"
> Dubus Mag business:
>     dubususa at gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From caulktel at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 22:59:09 2016
From: caulktel at gmail.com (Joel Caulkins)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 15:59:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] KISS-RX AA2TX info
Message-ID: <CAHm=03cBrSTJGArkNLDkBzDo1SKcY38rRWpnoxXyeGy06=y5mA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Can anybody point me in the direction of any information on Anthony,
AA2TX's Space Radio SDR receiver. I have bought a PCB from
Amateurradiokits.in. I need the KISS-RX driver and the WAVE I/O driver for
Windows. Any help would be appreciated.

-- 
Joel, KB6QVI

From k.alexander at rogers.com  Thu Jun  2 23:28:58 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 19:28:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Does SO-50 Tumble?  Was:  "Polarization"
In-Reply-To: <CAPonRZ_=HYjs=eaOvzuW2WCKzMP59whXXpq4RViBwBmDfOzfXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL401-EAS1231CF780609EB6D866E5B5B4460@phx.gbl>
	<CAPonRZ_=HYjs=eaOvzuW2WCKzMP59whXXpq4RViBwBmDfOzfXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <637FCE7D-0190-492D-AE8B-E453D7CD35AB@rogers.com>

So far, I am only active on SO-50 and I have to say I?m impressed with the reception quality with my TH-D72A and Arrow antenna.  The Arrow requires only a twist to peak the signal to very good levels.  I?m starting to notice a pattern where certain polarization angles produce the best results at different times during a pass.  It would be interesting if this turned out to be repeatable?and it leads to my next question:  How much (if at all) does SO-50 or any other satellite tumble during its orbit?  I am assuming that the current breed of ham satellites aren?t large enough to house motors or other devices to control their attitude, which makes me think they must tumble somewhat.

Once again, thank you all for your forbearance as I mine your collective knowledge to bring myself up to speed!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


> On May 31, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> "The antennas I see in the photos of satellites we work are whips. Is the polarization becoming "circularized" as it re-enters earth's atmosphere or something?"
> 
> Yep, that is exactly what is happening.  It is called Faraday Rotation, and as the signal from the satellite passes through the ionosphere, all sorts of polarity changes can and do happen. A linear polarized satellite antenna (horizontal or vertical) can appear to be the opposite or somewhere in between.  That's why folks rotate their Arrow or Elk antennas -- trying to match the polarity.
> 
> Using a circular polarized antenna helps a bunch -- it doesn't matter what the polarity of the linear satellite antenna happens to be at any moment in time.
> 
> But there is no free lunch -- Even a circular polarized antenna might need to be switched from Right Hand Circular Polarization (the default) to LHCP from time to time depending on what nasty thing the ionosphere is doing at any given moment.  Changing the polarity switch might bring a S0 signal up to S5, a 30 dB improvement.  I had that happen to me during a recent ARISS contact.
> 
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Doug Andrews <dougg27 at hotmail.com <mailto:dougg27 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I too have wondered about this.
> I have not had much trouble hitting SO-50 and some success on AO-85 with a 5 watt handheld and arrow antenna without turning it. Worth a try.
> DougKG7UNU
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy? Note 4.
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Alexander <k.alexander at rogers.com <mailto:k.alexander at rogers.com>>
> Date: 5/30/16  4:41 PM  (GMT-08:00)
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarization
> 
> I clipped this from another message because I didn't want to drag the
> discussion off course.  It's a question I've been wondering about since
> getting into this a few short weeks ago.
> 
> I've also read (but haven't tried yet) about the trick of rotating
> the antenna 90 degrees on transmit, once you've established the best
> receive orientation.
> 
> 73 de Bill, KG5FQX
> 
> So far, with SO-20 I have rotated my Arrow antenna for best reception of
> the downlink and don't think I've had too much trouble being heard. At
> the same time I have wondered whether I should twist the antenna when
> transmitting to orient the 2m elements to give the same polarization as
> in receive. I don't know if this is a good idea or not, and frankly I
> have enough trouble remembering calls and grids, tracking the satellite,
> adjusting frequency and switching back to the correct VFO to worry about
> one more thing.
> 
> I've seen that some commercial OSCAR antennas use circular polarization.
> The antennas I see in the photos of satellites we work are whips. Is the
> polarization becoming "circularized" as it re-enters earth's atmosphere
> or something?
> 
> Comments and observations would be most welcome!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Ken Alexander
> VE3HLS, FN03
> 
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun  2 23:40:01 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 19:40:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Does SO-50 Tumble? Was: "Polarization"
In-Reply-To: <637FCE7D-0190-492D-AE8B-E453D7CD35AB@rogers.com>
References: <COL401-EAS1231CF780609EB6D866E5B5B4460@phx.gbl>
	<CAPonRZ_=HYjs=eaOvzuW2WCKzMP59whXXpq4RViBwBmDfOzfXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<637FCE7D-0190-492D-AE8B-E453D7CD35AB@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <66ebc9ae76303adf0bc08a0a58df1191@mail.gmail.com>

PCSAT spins at about 0.6 RPM and PSAT spins between 3 and 6 PM and you can
decode the telemetry easily with a pen and paper to see what it is currently
doing. http://aprs.org/psat.html

Even if a satellite did not spin at all, it would still rotate relative to
you almost 180 degrees from horizon to horizon.   Bob, WB4aPR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ken
Alexander
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:29 PM
To: Bob
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Does SO-50 Tumble? Was: "Polarization"

So far, I am only active on SO-50 and I have to say I?m impressed with the
reception quality with my TH-D72A and Arrow antenna.  The Arrow requires
only a twist to peak the signal to very good levels.  I?m starting to notice
a pattern where certain polarization angles produce the best results at
different times during a pass.  It would be interesting if this turned out
to be repeatable?and it leads to my next question:  How much (if at all)
does SO-50 or any other satellite tumble during its orbit?  I am assuming
that the current breed of ham satellites aren?t large enough to house motors
or other devices to control their attitude, which makes me think they must
tumble somewhat.

Once again, thank you all for your forbearance as I mine your collective
knowledge to bring myself up to speed!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


> On May 31, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "The antennas I see in the photos of satellites we work are whips. Is the
> polarization becoming "circularized" as it re-enters earth's atmosphere or
> something?"
>
> Yep, that is exactly what is happening.  It is called Faraday Rotation,
> and as the signal from the satellite passes through the ionosphere, all
> sorts of polarity changes can and do happen. A linear polarized satellite
> antenna (horizontal or vertical) can appear to be the opposite or
> somewhere in between.  That's why folks rotate their Arrow or Elk
> antennas -- trying to match the polarity.
>
> Using a circular polarized antenna helps a bunch -- it doesn't matter what
> the polarity of the linear satellite antenna happens to be at any moment
> in time.
>
> But there is no free lunch -- Even a circular polarized antenna might need
> to be switched from Right Hand Circular Polarization (the default) to LHCP
> from time to time depending on what nasty thing the ionosphere is doing at
> any given moment.  Changing the polarity switch might bring a S0 signal up
> to S5, a 30 dB improvement.  I had that happen to me during a recent ARISS
> contact.
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Doug Andrews <dougg27 at hotmail.com
> <mailto:dougg27 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> I too have wondered about this.
> I have not had much trouble hitting SO-50 and some success on AO-85 with a
> 5 watt handheld and arrow antenna without turning it. Worth a try.
> DougKG7UNU
>
>
>
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy? Note 4.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Alexander <k.alexander at rogers.com
> <mailto:k.alexander at rogers.com>>
> Date: 5/30/16  4:41 PM  (GMT-08:00)
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarization
>
> I clipped this from another message because I didn't want to drag the
> discussion off course.  It's a question I've been wondering about
> since getting into this a few short weeks ago.
>
> I've also read (but haven't tried yet) about the trick of rotating the
> antenna 90 degrees on transmit, once you've established the best
> receive orientation.
>
> 73 de Bill, KG5FQX
>
> So far, with SO-20 I have rotated my Arrow antenna for best reception
> of the downlink and don't think I've had too much trouble being heard.
> At the same time I have wondered whether I should twist the antenna
> when transmitting to orient the 2m elements to give the same
> polarization as in receive. I don't know if this is a good idea or
> not, and frankly I have enough trouble remembering calls and grids,
> tracking the satellite, adjusting frequency and switching back to the
> correct VFO to worry about one more thing.
>
> I've seen that some commercial OSCAR antennas use circular polarization.
> The antennas I see in the photos of satellites we work are whips. Is
> the polarization becoming "circularized" as it re-enters earth's
> atmosphere or something?
>
> Comments and observations would be most welcome!
>
> 73,
>
> Ken Alexander
> VE3HLS, FN03
>
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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Thu Jun  2 23:48:21 2016
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:48:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Does SO-50 Tumble?  Was:  "Polarization"
In-Reply-To: <637FCE7D-0190-492D-AE8B-E453D7CD35AB@rogers.com>
References: <COL401-EAS1231CF780609EB6D866E5B5B4460@phx.gbl>	<CAPonRZ_=HYjs=eaOvzuW2WCKzMP59whXXpq4RViBwBmDfOzfXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<637FCE7D-0190-492D-AE8B-E453D7CD35AB@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <002701d1bd29$3f8589c0$be909d40$@charter.net>

Good question, Ken. I have the same issues with AO-85. I have an Elk on a rotor but fixed at 15 deg EL. Lots of 'in and out' reception.(I have been told AO-85 tumbles) I think I'm going to resurrect my 2m turnstile Moxon and see what happens. I have the Arrow but hate using it outdoors

73, ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ken Alexander
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 4:29 PM
To: Bob
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Does SO-50 Tumble? Was: "Polarization"

So far, I am only active on SO-50 and I have to say I?m impressed with the reception quality with my TH-D72A and Arrow antenna.  The Arrow requires only a twist to peak the signal to very good levels.  I?m starting to notice a pattern where certain polarization angles produce the best results at different times during a pass.  It would be interesting if this turned out to be repeatable?and it leads to my next question:  How much (if at all) does SO-50 or any other satellite tumble during its orbit?  I am assuming that the current breed of ham satellites aren?t large enough to house motors or other devices to control their attitude, which makes me think they must tumble somewhat.

Once again, thank you all for your forbearance as I mine your collective knowledge to bring myself up to speed!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


> On May 31, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> "The antennas I see in the photos of satellites we work are whips. Is the polarization becoming "circularized" as it re-enters earth's atmosphere or something?"
> 
> Yep, that is exactly what is happening.  It is called Faraday Rotation, and as the signal from the satellite passes through the ionosphere, all sorts of polarity changes can and do happen. A linear polarized satellite antenna (horizontal or vertical) can appear to be the opposite or somewhere in between.  That's why folks rotate their Arrow or Elk antennas -- trying to match the polarity.
> 
> Using a circular polarized antenna helps a bunch -- it doesn't matter what the polarity of the linear satellite antenna happens to be at any moment in time.
> 
> But there is no free lunch -- Even a circular polarized antenna might need to be switched from Right Hand Circular Polarization (the default) to LHCP from time to time depending on what nasty thing the ionosphere is doing at any given moment.  Changing the polarity switch might bring a S0 signal up to S5, a 30 dB improvement.  I had that happen to me during a recent ARISS contact.
> 
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Doug Andrews <dougg27 at hotmail.com <mailto:dougg27 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I too have wondered about this.
> I have not had much trouble hitting SO-50 and some success on AO-85 with a 5 watt handheld and arrow antenna without turning it. Worth a try.
> DougKG7UNU
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy? Note 4.
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Alexander <k.alexander at rogers.com 
> <mailto:k.alexander at rogers.com>>
> Date: 5/30/16  4:41 PM  (GMT-08:00)
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarization
> 
> I clipped this from another message because I didn't want to drag the 
> discussion off course.  It's a question I've been wondering about 
> since getting into this a few short weeks ago.
> 
> I've also read (but haven't tried yet) about the trick of rotating the 
> antenna 90 degrees on transmit, once you've established the best 
> receive orientation.
> 
> 73 de Bill, KG5FQX
> 
> So far, with SO-20 I have rotated my Arrow antenna for best reception 
> of the downlink and don't think I've had too much trouble being heard. 
> At the same time I have wondered whether I should twist the antenna 
> when transmitting to orient the 2m elements to give the same 
> polarization as in receive. I don't know if this is a good idea or 
> not, and frankly I have enough trouble remembering calls and grids, 
> tracking the satellite, adjusting frequency and switching back to the 
> correct VFO to worry about one more thing.
> 
> I've seen that some commercial OSCAR antennas use circular polarization.
> The antennas I see in the photos of satellites we work are whips. Is 
> the polarization becoming "circularized" as it re-enters earth's 
> atmosphere or something?
> 
> Comments and observations would be most welcome!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Ken Alexander
> VE3HLS, FN03
> 
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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Fri Jun  3 00:07:03 2016
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 20:07:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Does SO-50 Tumble?  Was:  "Polarization"
In-Reply-To: <637FCE7D-0190-492D-AE8B-E453D7CD35AB@rogers.com>
References: <COL401-EAS1231CF780609EB6D866E5B5B4460@phx.gbl>
	<CAPonRZ_=HYjs=eaOvzuW2WCKzMP59whXXpq4RViBwBmDfOzfXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<637FCE7D-0190-492D-AE8B-E453D7CD35AB@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <2CC0B470-8D14-469D-9061-3622C87938BF@mindspring.com>

Most us passive magnetic stabilization and some sort of solar pressure induced spin. They "tumble" crossing the magnetic equator, and wobble elsewhere.

73, Drew KO4MA

> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Ken Alexander <k.alexander at rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> So far, I am only active on SO-50 and I have to say I?m impressed with the reception quality with my TH-D72A and Arrow antenna.  The Arrow requires only a twist to peak the signal to very good levels.  I?m starting to notice a pattern where certain polarization angles produce the best results at different times during a pass.  It would be interesting if this turned out to be repeatable?and it leads to my next question:  How much (if at all) does SO-50 or any other satellite tumble during its orbit?  I am assuming that the current breed of ham satellites aren?t large enough to house motors or other devices to control their attitude, which makes me think they must tumble somewhat.
> 
> Once again, thank you all for your forbearance as I mine your collective knowledge to bring myself up to speed!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Ken Alexander
> VE3HLS
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> "The antennas I see in the photos of satellites we work are whips. Is the polarization becoming "circularized" as it re-enters earth's atmosphere or something?"
>> 
>> Yep, that is exactly what is happening.  It is called Faraday Rotation, and as the signal from the satellite passes through the ionosphere, all sorts of polarity changes can and do happen. A linear polarized satellite antenna (horizontal or vertical) can appear to be the opposite or somewhere in between.  That's why folks rotate their Arrow or Elk antennas -- trying to match the polarity.
>> 
>> Using a circular polarized antenna helps a bunch -- it doesn't matter what the polarity of the linear satellite antenna happens to be at any moment in time.
>> 
>> But there is no free lunch -- Even a circular polarized antenna might need to be switched from Right Hand Circular Polarization (the default) to LHCP from time to time depending on what nasty thing the ionosphere is doing at any given moment.  Changing the polarity switch might bring a S0 signal up to S5, a 30 dB improvement.  I had that happen to me during a recent ARISS contact.
>> 
>> 73, Bob, WB4SON
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Doug Andrews <dougg27 at hotmail.com <mailto:dougg27 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I too have wondered about this.
>> I have not had much trouble hitting SO-50 and some success on AO-85 with a 5 watt handhel


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Jun  3 04:10:59 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 00:10:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Rare MAI-75 USA ISS SSTV Reception - April 2016
	Video #3
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO5e06Hed3zXAXEXizcmmEAh-fnL2A0PYX4Mdx6T5jMYA@mail.gmail.com>

https://youtu.be/cUnkrlRJJuw

MAI-75 ISS SSTV was mostly only available outside of North America,
but there were two passes where it did cover NA on Friday April 15th,
2016. This is one of those passes.

Video #1 - Monday Failure and Tuesday Success
https://youtu.be/ieR-nmkjeSc

Video #2 - Perfect ISS SSTV Images... Almost!
https://youtu.be/JoFrVRfc4Ks

73,

John KG4AKV

From AJ9N at aol.com  Fri Jun  3 06:35:50 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 02:35:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-03 06:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <d2c40.5696d53.44827f46@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-03  06:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Bouze Island Elementary and Junior High School, Homeji,  Japan, direct via 
8N3B
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS  
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Sat  2016-06-04 08:31:09 UTC 74 deg

Glenmore State High School,  Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia, telebridge 
via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN  
Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-06-06 08:39:31 UTC 31 deg  

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  118
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-03 06:00 UTC.  
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1060. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1025. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,  and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-05-31 07:00 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  46 on orbit 
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

Exp. 47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com  Fri Jun  3 08:18:49 2016
From: zilvinas.atkociunas at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?xb1pbHZpbmFzIEF0a2/EjWnFq25hcw==?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:18:49 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
In-Reply-To: <201606020853.u528r093020801@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201606020853.u528r093020801@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <CAHFd=yYoy6+F7auZRpowFJtOp9x66oC7YCDFdcRF923GdPMFYg@mail.gmail.com>

I see L/Ku band implementation here:
http://www.prutchi.com/2012/03/11/d-i-y-combined-l-band-23-cm-helical-feed-and-ku-0-4-db-lnbf-for-120-cm-dish/
I wonder if this technique could be still valid for S band... I'm afraid
that helix will be to small to fit LNB ?

73 Zilvis LY2SS



2016-06-02 11:53 GMT+03:00 Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>:

> Dual-band feed arrangements have been done on dishes used for eme.  A
> classic is 432/1296 feed of VK3UM or similar arrangement 432/2304: crossed
> dipole feed on 432 with cyl 1296 horn in the center of a large circular
> reflector plane.  But higher in mw wg horn feeds are normal.  Hard to get
> two horns in the same spot (focus).
>
> However, I have a cylindrical wg horn made by W1GHZ which feeds 24-GHz via
> wg into a smaller diameter wg section opening into a larger section which
> is fed 10-GHz via wg coax probe.  But this is not designed for dual-band
> duplex operation.
>
> At NASA duplex operation was accomplished using wg diplexers which cut-off
> RF at a higher frequency thru phasing techniques.  2.115-GHz Tx/2.295-GHz
> Rx.
>
> Another famous NASA operation used something called a dichroic plate.  The
> plate was put across the mouth of a feehorn so that only 8.4 GHz signals
> would penetrate the fine holes in the plate but reflect 2.2 GHz.  The Plate
> was angled to reflect the lower frequency to another horn positioned to
> look at the plate.  Of course the dish was 64m in diameter so the
> subreflector did not have to be small (about 3m to memory).  That was used
> in 1974 for an experiment on MA-10 encounter at Venus.
>
> I believe the 5G/10G sats are being designed with a 1m ground dish as
> standard.  1m offset dishes are common to the current Direct-TV/Dish Net
> market.  Here in AK 1m to 1.2m dish is std on houses (I have a 1.2m).  I
> also have our old Dish-Net dish which is 1.8m sitting on a pole with
> nothing hooked up.
>
> Unfortunately, ExHail will not be above horizon in Alaska.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>     "Kits made by KL7UW"
> Dubus Mag business:
>     dubususa at gmail.com
>
>
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From pa3fym at amsat.org  Fri Jun  3 13:55:06 2016
From: pa3fym at amsat.org (Remco)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:55:06 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellit
Message-ID: <201606031555.06157.pa3fym@amsat.org>

Zilvis, 

I made almost exactly the same construction. Within 1.5 hour I fetch 
my camera with the pictures and post a link to my prototype feed
arrangement when I'm home.

Remco PA3FYM

>I see L/Ku band implementation here:
>http://www.prutchi.com/2012/03/11/d-i-y-combined-l-band-23-cm-helical-feed-and-ku-0-4-db-lnbf-for-120-cm-dish/
>I wonder if this technique could be still valid for S band... I'm afraid
>that helix will be to small to fit LNB ?


From py41 at att.net  Fri Jun  3 15:56:33 2016
From: py41 at att.net (Perry Yantis)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:56:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2400???
References: <989868876.775064.1464969393566.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <989868876.775064.1464969393566.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I haven't used my 2.4 downlink equipment for a while and was wondering if any satellites are operating that have a 2.4 downlink that is on so I can test my 2.4 receive station??????Perry WB8OTH

py41 at att.net
sent from my Apple Macbook Pro

From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Fri Jun  3 17:01:25 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:01:25 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2400???
In-Reply-To: <989868876.775064.1464969393566.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <989868876.775064.1464969393566.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<989868876.775064.1464969393566.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7C54C259-918C-4DDA-99FB-A27DC1F4C9E7@comcast.net>

Hi Perry,
What are you using for 2.4gHz?  I'm looking a transverter for one of my Kenwood TS-830's

73
Dave N4CVX


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:56, Perry Yantis <py41 at att.net> wrote:
> 
> I haven't used my 2.4 downlink equipment for a while and was wondering if any satellites are operating that have a 2.4 downlink that is on so I can test my 2.4 receive station????? Perry WB8OTH
> 
> py41 at att.net
> sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
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From pa3fym at amsat.org  Fri Jun  3 17:52:17 2016
From: pa3fym at amsat.org (Remco)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:52:17 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail2 2.4GHz feed + 10 GHz LNB
Message-ID: <201606031952.17679.pa3fym@amsat.org>

As promised I downloaded the pictures from my camera. 


This afternoon I made a new helix (v0.2)


Some (preliminary) information + pictures are here: 


http://remco.org/index.php/2016/06/03/eshail2-dual-band-dish-feed


73, Remco PA3FYM 


From bill.g.dillon at gmail.com  Fri Jun  3 18:45:03 2016
From: bill.g.dillon at gmail.com (Bill Dillon)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:45:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Museum Ships Weekend Event: operating from the USS
 Stewart/USS Cavalla, June 4
Message-ID: <CADnLNZxd+Kk8KOE4LsGv+G+w+opjV9OpwZ=kLWO-RTwjFs8rCQ@mail.gmail.com>

As long as it's not poring rain (and we've had a lot of that Texas
lately!), I will attempt to work the 12:20z and 14:00z passes of SO-50
tomorrow (June 4), as well as the 19:30z pass of AO-85 with my trusty Arrow
and HT.

I'll be on the USS Stewart (destroyer escort), and as the USS Cavalla (sub)
is adjoining, you get MSWE credit for two ships for the contact.

I'll be using our club call sign of KK5W, and I'm still in my home grid of
EL29.

73 de Bill, KG5FQX

From jerry.tuyls at telenet.be  Fri Jun  3 21:00:35 2016
From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be (jerry.tuyls at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 23:00:35 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail2 2.4GHz feed + 10 GHz LNB
In-Reply-To: <201606031952.17679.pa3fym@amsat.org>
References: <201606031952.17679.pa3fym@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1857816642.33143586.1464987635090.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>

I am also preparing the station for Eshail.

>From DD7MH i have a dual band ringfeed for 23 and 3cm, but i am thinking about a helix for 13cm and keeping the ring for 3cm. The dish will be a spare 2m prime focus mesh dish, although a have a small offset dish too(1.40m) which will be better on 3cm for RX. I read somewhere in the past,an article from a French OM, about his measurements 
on dish-gain,resulting in the same between a 1m offset and a 2m prime focus on 10GHz.
My mesh dish is over 10y old now, bought it at RFHamdesign with a 23 and 13 hornfeed. Nice made, but i changed the mesh to a smaller one(5*5mm) for higher band use.
For AO-40 i used a 60cm dish with a small helix feed, maybe this will be enough for the uplink on Eshail, together with a TV dish and LNB. When monitoring rainscatter on 3cm
it works great with the LNB, just a homemade biasT for powering up and the signal into a dongle for SDR. 
In the past i made a RHCP crossyagi on 23cm for AO-51, worked great, maybe it is time to make one for 13cm instead off using a dish.(windload)

I just need something to get on 13cm for the uplink...

http://www.dd7mh.de/index.html
http://www.rfhamdesign.com/
http://www.octagon-germany.eu/produkte/lnb/optima-serie/oslo/

73's

Jerry,ON4CJQ


----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Remco" <pa3fym at amsat.org>
Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Verzonden: Vrijdag 3 juni 2016 19:52:17
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] EsHail2 2.4GHz feed + 10 GHz LNB

As promised I downloaded the pictures from my camera. 


This afternoon I made a new helix (v0.2)


Some (preliminary) information + pictures are here: 


http://remco.org/index.php/2016/06/03/eshail2-dual-band-dish-feed


73, Remco PA3FYM 

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From jim at milnet.uk.net  Fri Jun  3 20:37:33 2016
From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 21:37:33 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube mode change
Message-ID: <0DE950A7282D46FB9B4D45F801D76F78@jimPC2>

Hi Folks,

  I have just set AO-73/FUNcube into permanent transponder mode. Plan, as 
usual, is to switch it back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC.

  Enjoy the transponder and have a FUN weekend.

73s Jim G3WGM

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Fri Jun  3 21:04:53 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:04:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Bouze Island Elementary and
	Junior High School, Homeji, Japan
Message-ID: <91471F180BEB4E7AAA74A2874AD15602@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Bouze Island Elementary and Junior High School, Homeji,  Japan on 04 June. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:31 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and 8N3B. The contact should be audible over Japan and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in Japanese.

 

 

Bouze Island is one of the Ieshima small Islands which are located in the Seto Inland sea of Hyogo Prefecture in Japan. There are about 1400 people on the island and are part of the marine products industry. They live with simplicity and are friendly.  But the students of this Island have not had a chance for scientific experience as part of their school education because of their remote location. There are 140 persons in the elementary school and 100 persons in the junior high school.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1.   What problems do you experience the most while you are in space?

2.   What about zero gravity do you find convenient, surprising and 

     impressive?

3.   Have you been hurt or sick?  What do you do?

4.   Do you have morning, afternoon and night there?

5.   Do you get your hair cut?  How do you do that?

6.   How do you brush your teeth?

7.   One the ISS, is there free time for you?

8.   In ISS, how many people are there?

9.   In the ISS, what do you check?

10.   Was it not scary to go to space?

11.   In zero gravity, how do you sleep?

12.   I heard that your height grows in the space, is that true?

13.   How long did it take time to become an astronaut?

14.   Why did you think that you wanted to become an astronaut?

15.   Being in outer space, does cause bad eyesight?

16.   Is life easier in space or on earth?

17.   What do you do for the tooth powder when you brushed your teeth?

18.   In the ISS, how much food is stored?

19.   In the zero gravity, how is the bath?

20.   How can you see the earth now?

21.   Comparing the same food, does how to feel about taste change in the   

      earth and space?

22.   How does the restroom work in zero gravity?

23.   How many times have you been to the space?

24.   You are in the ISS, can you contact a family and a friend immediately?

25.   How do you take a drink in zero gravity?

26.   How does oxygen in the ISS form? How is carbon dioxide eliminated?

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

      1.  Glenmore State High School,  Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia,  

          telebridge via W6SRJ. The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to 

          be NA1SS. The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN  

          Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-06-06 08:39:31 UTC   

 

 

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Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

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From wa7eth at frontier.com  Sat Jun  4 04:01:26 2016
From: wa7eth at frontier.com (wa7eth at frontier.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 04:01:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Connecting 2 FT-857D's to SATPC32
References: <1030470218.1041706.1465012886904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1030470218.1041706.1465012886904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

What cables would be required to connect two FT-857D's to SATPC32? ?I stumbled on to a deal I could not refuse, so now I would like to use them for working satellites. ?Please contact off bulletin board at ?wa7eth at frontier.com ? ? - ?Thanks, ?Ed ?WA7ETH

From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Sat Jun  4 04:11:57 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 21:11:57 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Connecting 2 FT-857D's to SATPC32
In-Reply-To: <1030470218.1041706.1465012886904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1030470218.1041706.1465012886904.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1030470218.1041706.1465012886904.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5752550d.dd66620a.768b5.ffffc870@mx.google.com>

I use an USB 62-CAT cable to control my FT-817 from SATPC32. I believe the 857 use the same cable.

73
Fernando, NP4JV

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: wa7eth at frontier.com
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 9:01 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Connecting 2 FT-857D's to SATPC32

What cables would be required to connect two FT-857D's to SATPC32? ?I stumbled on to a deal I could not refuse, so now I would like to use them for working satellites. ?Please contact off bulletin board at ?wa7eth at frontier.com ? ? - ?Thanks, ?Ed ?WA7ETH
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From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Sat Jun  4 10:52:40 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:52:40 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM80/DM81 on 5 June
Message-ID: <AEDDF194C05049EAAECC585A695578CC@AA5PKPC>

Tomorrow (Sunday) I plan to operate portable from the DM80/DM81 grid line.

I'll try AO-85 beginning at 1807Z followed by FO-29 at 1847Z.  Uplink on FO-29 initially will be 145.930.

73
Glenn AA5PK

From bill.g.dillon at gmail.com  Sat Jun  4 14:12:53 2016
From: bill.g.dillon at gmail.com (Bill Dillon)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 09:12:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Museum Ships Weekend Event: operating from the USS
 Stewart/USS Cavalla, June 4
In-Reply-To: <CADnLNZxd+Kk8KOE4LsGv+G+w+opjV9OpwZ=kLWO-RTwjFs8rCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADnLNZxd+Kk8KOE4LsGv+G+w+opjV9OpwZ=kLWO-RTwjFs8rCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADnLNZwyvbh9mydfAKcig+S2uTfSYrYpx+NNfLjg=+X0Jpz+Qw@mail.gmail.com>

Well, not only was it poring rain, it was flooding too.  I had to turn back
due to high water in Galveston.  :-(

73 de Bill, KG5FQX

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Bill Dillon <bill.g.dillon at gmail.com> wrote:

> As long as it's not poring rain (and we've had a lot of that Texas
> lately!), I will attempt to work the 12:20z and 14:00z passes of SO-50
> tomorrow (June 4), as well as the 19:30z pass of AO-85 with my trusty Arrow
> and HT.
>
> I'll be on the USS Stewart (destroyer escort), and as the USS Cavalla
> (sub) is adjoining, you get MSWE credit for two ships for the contact.
>
> I'll be using our club call sign of KK5W, and I'm still in my home grid of
> EL29.
>
> 73 de Bill, KG5FQX
>

From wao at vfr.net  Sun Jun  5 06:11:28 2016
From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 23:11:28 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-157 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <5753C290.1070802@vfr.net>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-157
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* 2016 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice
* French Schools to Talk to ISS
* A Dozen Schools/Organizations Move Closer to Hosting a
   Ham Radio Contact with the ISS Crew
* Amateur Satellite Launch from India
* ?USAT-1 SSB/CW Transponder Satellite Launched
* ZF2AE from Grand Cayman via Satellite
* AMSAT Events
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-157.01
ANS-157 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 157.01
 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE June 5, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-157.01


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2016 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice


It's time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of
Directors election. Three director's terms expire this year: Tom
Clark, K3IO, JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM, and Lou McFadin, W5DID. In
addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for one year terms.

A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current
individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for
Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and
call, and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual
signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304
Kensington, MD 20895-2526.

In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which
is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by
electronic means. These include e-mail, Fax, or electronic image of a
petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to MARTHA at AMSAT.ORG
or Faxed to (301)822-4371.

No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June
15th at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional
written nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than
this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST
be received at the AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days
following the close of nominations on June 15th.

ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE
NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS.


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA Secretary, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, for the
above information]


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French Schools to Talk to ISS


ARISS-F and AMSAT-F have announced the 13 French schools that have been
selected for amateur radio contacts with ISS astronaut Thomas Pesquet,
KG5FYG.

He is planned to launch to the International Space Station in November
2016. The 13 French schools selected represents 66% of planned ARISS
contacts for Europe.

AMSAT-F article in Google English
http://tinyurl.com/ARISS-Thomas-Pesquet

ARISS-F list of selected schools
http://tinyurl.com/ARISS-F

Thomas Pesquet KG5FYG on Twitter
https://twitter.com/Thom_astro


[ANS thanks ARISS-F and AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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A Dozen Schools/Organizations Move Closer to Hosting a Ham Radio Contact
with the ISS Crew


The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) program has
announced that 12 schools or organizations that submitted proposals to host
an Amateur Radio contact with a member of the ISS crew have moved into the
next stage of the selection process. Contacts would take place during the
first half of 2017. The 12 semifinalists, in eight states, must now 
complete
an acceptable equipment plan that demonstrates their ability to execute the
ham radio contact. Once the ARISS technical team approves the equipment 
plan,
the selected schools/organizations will be scheduled, matching their
availability and flexibility with the scheduling opportunities that NASA
can offer.

The schools and organizations are:

     Blair Pointe Upper Elementary School, Peru, Indiana
     Brook Haven School, Sebastopol, California
     Greater Niagara Frontier Council BSA, Buffalo, New York
     McBride High School, Long Beach, California
     Palmetto Scholars Academy, North Charleston, South Carolina
     Rainbow Middle School, Rainbow City, Alabama
     SCaN/Glenn Research Center, Brook Park, Ohio
     Space Center Houston, Houston, Texas
     St Joseph School, Ronkonkoma, New York
     Student Space Technology Association, Knoxville, Tennessee
     Virginia Reinhardt Elementary School, Rockwall, Texas
     Warwick Valley Central School District, Warwick, New York

The primary goal of the ARISS program is to engage young people in Science,
Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM) activities and raise their 
awareness
of space exploration, space communications and related areas of study and
career possibilities.


[ANS thanks ARISS and the ARRL for the above information]


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Amateur Satellite Launch from India


Mineo Wakita JE9PEL reports on the Indian ISRO PSLV-C34 amateur radio
satellite launch planned for June 10, 2016 at 0355 UT into a 500 km
98 degree inclination orbit.

Main Payload, Cartosat-2C, Earth Observing
PSLV-XL(C-34), Satish Dharwan Space Centre, Sriharikota, India

Satellite        Uplink    Downlink  Beacon    Mode
------------       -------       --------        ------- ---------------
BEESAT-4         .        435.950  435.950  4800bps GMSK,CW
BIROS               .        437.525        .         4800bps GMSK
LAPAN-A3        .              .               .         Non-Amateur
Max Valier       .        145.860  145.960  CW
Sathyabamasat .      145.980       .          2400bps BPSK
Swayam COEP   .      437.025  437.025  1200bps BPSK,CW
Venta-1             .             .          437.325  CW
------------  -------  --------  -------  ---------------

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/be4lapan.htm

Among the satellites being launched is Swayam-1 developed by students at 
the
College of Engineering Pune (COEP). It will provide a text messaging
facility using the COEPSAT protocol.
see
http://amsatindia.org/coep-satellite-swayam-project/
http://www.coep.org.in/csat/track-swayam/

UPDATE: Yono YD0NXX reports the Indonesian built LAPAN-A3
does not have an amateur radio payload.


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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?USAT-1 SSB/CW Transponder Satellite Launched


?USAT-1, carrying an amateur radio 435/145 MHz linear transponder and a
436 MHz telemetry beacon, was launched May 30, 2016 at 0317 UT on a CZ-4B
rocket from Taiyuan. With ?USAT-1 on the launch was its sister satellite
?USAT-2 which has a 437 MHz beacon.

UPDATE May 30, 2016 at 1300 UT: ?USAT-1 and ?USAT-1 launched and deployed
successfully, signals reported from both telemetry beacons. Satellogic 
reports
?All Systems: Nominal?.

AMSAT-LU reports both satellites are sending strong TLM on 436.445/437.445
at 9K6/19K2 GFSK. During first few days they are being stabilized, after 
that
the U/V linear transponder will be activated on ?USAT-1. A notice will be
given on the AMSAT Bulletin Board (AMSAT-BB).

As we quoted when the announcement of the launching of this experiment, 
Amsat
Argentina has been working for several years to keep alive the dream of many
Argentine amateurs to get back into Space with their own satellite as a 
follow-
on of the legendary 1990?s LUSAT-1, reaping the benefits of Technological
advancement of our days.

We believe technical activities and developments of experiments in near 
space
share the same goals: preserving the human group, enhancing their 
capabilities
as well as disseminate and guiding the education and development of the
activity, meanwhile contributing to Space available resources.

Our agreement with Satellogic Enterprises, which already launched three low
orbit satellites: Captain Beto, Manolito y Tita, two of which transmit
telemetry and data currently in UHF identifying themselves with callsign 
LU7AA,
allowed us to ride a linear analog amateur radio transponder and 
corresponding
antenna aboard one of their next satellite, ?USAT-1

AMSAT-LU provides simultaneously, support for this mission and the ?USAT-2
mission, by operating one of the control stations at Tortuguitas, Prov. Of
Bs.As.

The experiment Amsat-LU developed, evolved from original design of our
colleague and partner William, PE1RAH, while electronic adaptation, 
mechanical
and software was made by the LU Satellite Experiment group, mounted on a 
10 x
10 centimeters radiating plate, in which components of the power supply 
as well
as a duplexer and dual band antenna where also incorporated.

This set was installed on the ?usat-1 bus, which supplies power and becomes
part of several other experiments this satellite will make.

The transponder receives UHF which is broadcasted in VHF, has a bandwidth of
30 kHz. with an output power of 250 mW.

435.935 ~ 435.965 are LSB/CW uplink passband
145.965 ~ 145.935 are USB/CW downlink passband
145.900 Basic CW Telemetry

The launch will be from a Chinese launcher in a polar orbit at 500 km. 
height,
with inclination of 97 degrees from Equator.

see
http://www.amsat.org.ar
https://www.facebook.com/Amsat.LU
http://lusex.org.ar
http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and AMSAT-Argentia for the above information]


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ZF2AE from Grand Cayman via Satellite


Cayman Islands (EK99) - Adrian, AA5UK will be QRV as ZF2AE from Grand
Cayman, IOTA NA-016 from June 27, 2016 - July 2, 2016.  Activity is holiday
style on 40 to 6 meters mostly RTTY/PSK, including satellite activity from
grid EK99HI41RB. He will also be active in the DL DX RTTY contest in the
Single Operator, Multiband, Single Radio category. QSL to home call, bureau,
LOTW preferred. For pass updates, see @AA5UK on Twitter

http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3921


[ANS thanks JoAnne, K9JKM for the above information]


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AMSAT Events


Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around
the country.  Examples of these events are radio club meetings where
AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working
amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with
AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations,
forums, and/or demonstrations).

*Friday and Saturday, 10-11 June 2016 ? Ham-Com 2016 in Irving TX

*Saturday, 11 June 2016 ? Prescott Hamfest in Prescott AZ

*Wednesday, 6 July 2016 ? Chehalis Valley Amateur Radio Society meeting
in Chehalis WA

*Saturday, 13 August 2016 ? KL7KC Hamfest in Fairbanks AK


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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ARISS News


Sucessful Contacts

* Venta School,  Carp, ON, Canada, telebridge via IK1SLD
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact was successful: Mon 2016-05-30  19:01:25 UTC 32 deg

A telebridge contact via IK1SLD with students at Venta School,Carp,
Ontario, Canada was successful  2016-05-30 19:01:25 UTC 32 deg. Astronaut
Jeff Williams answered 12 questions for an audience of 150 students and
teachers.

Venta Preparatory School is a small co-ed day and boarding school from
Junior Kindergarten to Grade 10, located just outside of Ottawa in Carp,
Ontario. We foster and continually enhance an environment where each
student can grow and achieve their highest potential.

Upcoming Contacts

* Bouze Island Elementary and Junior High School, Homeji,  Japan,
direct via 8N3B
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Sat  2016-06-04 08:31:09 UTC 74 deg

Bouze Island is one of the Ieshima small Islands which are located in the
Seto Inland sea of Hyogo Prefecture in Japan. There are about 1400 people
on the island and are part of the marine products industry. They live with
simplicity and are friendly.  But the students of this Island have not had
a chance for scientific experience as part of their school education
because of their remote location. There are 140 persons in the elementary
school and 100 persons in the junior high school.

* Glenmore State High School,  Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia,
telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-06-06 08:39:31 UTC 31 deg

Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.


[ANS thanks ARISS, Dave, AA4KN, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over


N5AFV Reaches 57,000 Satellite Contacts

George, WA5KBH reports on the AMSAT-BB that on the FO29 west pass on
May 29 I had the privilege of being Allen's (N5AFV) 57,000th contact!
Well done, My Good friend!!!
And Hector (W5CBF) was his 57,001th!

[ANS thanks George, WA5KBH for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Joe Spier, K6WAO
k6wao at amsat dot org

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Jun  5 06:50:37 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 06:50:37 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] My plans for 4-5 June - CANCELLED
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfUx7OnLgNZfFNHjxYaQef-HnsgGTvUVAm6JQ-Xi6wXPw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

As some (many?) of you may have already seen on Twitter, or figured
out if you listened on some passes today, I had to cancel my plans
for this weekend. I had arrived in Show Low AZ Friday evening, and then
received a call from home about a family issue that forced me to turn
around and drive right back to Phoenix. Things are now better at home,
but I was not able to attend this morning's White Mountain Hamfest nor
follow through on my plans to visit different NPOTA sites this afternoon
and tomorrow. I apologize to those who were hoping to work me from those
locations (and rarely heard grids).

I don't know if or when I can make it out to Petrified Forest National
Park again. It's about a 4-hour drive from Phoenix. My plans for next
weekend will now include a Sunday stop in the Flagstaff area, so I can
try to operate from NPOTA sites in that area - including Sunset Crater
Volcano and Wupatki National Monuments north of Flagstaff. I still plan
on attending the Prescott Hamfest next Saturday (11 June), which will be
at the Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University Prescott campus. I'll write
more about that hamfest, and more details about my post-hamfest plans,
in the next few days.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun  5 20:53:39 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:53:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Glenmore State High School,
	Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia
Message-ID: <EA0E4331145D4D7092AC69B1FAA40A9E@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Glenmore State High School, Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia on 06 June. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:39 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be audible over the west coast of the U.S. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

Glenmore High School is a modern, progressive secondary school providing quality education for students from years 7 to 12. Since its establishment in 1975 Glenmore High School has earned a reputation for high quality educational programs and services which develop a passion in students for learning and life.

 

Glenmore SHS runs an extension Science/Math program named "SCOPE" where student enrol and work through year levels at an accelerated rate, which allows them to finish traditional schooling early and conduct further studies at our local university, to which we are partnered (Central Queensland University), during their final year of schooling. 

 

Students in the "SCOPE- Science" program are encouraged to participate in our schools astronomy club and robotics club as an extra curricula activity. The schools astronomy club works with local primary schools, teaching about space and running viewing evenings.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

 

1.  Does the ISS have any close calls or collisions with space junk or 

    meteorites and can you see meteorites entering the Earth's atmosphere and 

    burning up from above?

2.  What forces do you experience during the launch, when travelling from 

    Earth to the ISS?

3.  What levels of radiation are you exposed to on board the ISS?

4.  Does eating space food have any long term effects on your digestive 

    system?

5.  What different scientists are involved with the ISS?

6.  How do you go to the toilet and where does it go when you flush?

7.  What sounds can you hear inside the ISS?

8.  What are your favourite sites to view and photograph from space?

9.  Does the recycled air and water on-board the space station smell and 

    taste different to fresh air and water on Earth?

10.  Do you ever play jokes or pranks on each other and if so what is the 

     best joke or prank anyone has played on the ISS?

11.  What are the dangers of living in space on the ISS?

12.  How difficult is it to maintain contact with family and friends whilst 

     on the space station?

13.  What are the challenges for exercising in space?

14.  If you could travel to any moon or planet in our solar system, where 

     would it be and why?

15.  What are some of the current experiments being conducted on the ISS?

16.  What do you do in your typical day on board the ISS?

17.  What effects does living in zero gravity have on the human body?

18.  What is your education background and what do you need to become an 

     astronaut?

19.  Can you feel the cold of space even through your space suit when on 

     spacewalks?

20.  Where do you think the next man space mission should be to and why?

 

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

 

Next planned event(s):

   

TBD

 

 

ABOUT ARISS                                                             

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 


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From kb2m at arrl.net  Sun Jun  5 22:25:46 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:25:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies for satellite
In-Reply-To: <EA0E4331145D4D7092AC69B1FAA40A9E@DHJ>
References: <EA0E4331145D4D7092AC69B1FAA40A9E@DHJ>
Message-ID: <02fc01d1bf79$351d5d80$9f581880$@net>


I've taken on the task of trying to organize satellite participation again
in the yearly 13 Colonies special event. Most of you I'm sure are aware of
what the event is, if not please see...

http://www.13colonies.net/

What I will need to do to get sat operations added back to the event is get
at least one currently active sat op from each of the 13 colonies to
participate. I will cover the States of New Jersey and Delaware (if needed).
There can be more than one op per state. I also would like to ask for some
help putting WM3PEN on satellite, I think for the first time. I'm not going
to go forward with this unless we can reliably put all 13 colonies on the
air. Time is short, so anyone interested please email me ASAP so I can if a
go, set this all up in time. 

73 Jeff kb2m   



From WB4SON at gmail.com  Sun Jun  5 23:43:29 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:43:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 Colonies for satellite
In-Reply-To: <02fc01d1bf79$351d5d80$9f581880$@net>
References: <EA0E4331145D4D7092AC69B1FAA40A9E@DHJ>
	<02fc01d1bf79$351d5d80$9f581880$@net>
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ_Jzu3LEh4ov00FD+wyVUdjRs0-Y1mHP4HndJa7UF4fWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jeff,

I should be able to operate on satellite (any FM or Analog bird) from Rhode
Island, FN41, Washington County on at least most of the event days (July 1
to July 6).

Please let me know if I can help (if you get someone from everywhere).

73, Bob, WB4SON


On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Jeff Griffin <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:

>
> I've taken on the task of trying to organize satellite participation again
> in the yearly 13 Colonies special event. Most of you I'm sure are aware of
> what the event is, if not please see...
>
> http://www.13colonies.net/
>
> What I will need to do to get sat operations added back to the event is get
> at least one currently active sat op from each of the 13 colonies to
> participate. I will cover the States of New Jersey and Delaware (if
> needed).
> There can be more than one op per state. I also would like to ask for some
> help putting WM3PEN on satellite, I think for the first time. I'm not going
> to go forward with this unless we can reliably put all 13 colonies on the
> air. Time is short, so anyone interested please email me ASAP so I can if a
> go, set this all up in time.
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Mon Jun  6 00:18:28 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:18:28 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM80/DM81 on 5 June
In-Reply-To: <AEDDF194C05049EAAECC585A695578CC@AA5PKPC>
References: <AEDDF194C05049EAAECC585A695578CC@AA5PKPC>
Message-ID: <6544F3813F8546A18D30A59801BB5C57@AA5PKPC>

FO-29 QSOs from today's operation from DM80/DM81 grid line have been uploaded to LoTW.

If anyone wants/needs a hardcopy QSL, please email me and I'll get one in the mail to you.

73
Glenn AA5PK

From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Mon Jun  6 00:24:03 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:24:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM90 on 6 June 6
Message-ID: <28C79A14B91B41A784E7FF6F298A6981@AA5PKPC>

Rather then unload my portable operations equipment from the car today, I'll use it to operate from DM90 tomorrow (6 June).

One FO-29 pass starting at ~1752Z my AOS.

LoTW for all QSOs.  Hardcopy QSL by email request.

73
Glenn / AA5PK

From kb2m at arrl.net  Mon Jun  6 00:44:29 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 20:44:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 colonies sat ops
Message-ID: <038301d1bf8c$95e75ef0$c1b61cd0$@net>

I have gotten some emails about level of participation. A pass or two a day
is fine. There is also  no need to be on every pass every day, but I am
looking for experienced ops capable of making contacts every time there
OTA. As the event progresses if your state is needed by someone to get the
sweep, I'm sure they will let you know here on the SIG J

 

 

We have 4 states so far..

 

73 Jeff kb2m


From AJ9N at aol.com  Mon Jun  6 07:12:17 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 03:12:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-06 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <1f1a8d.75ef30d0.44867c51@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-06  07:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Bouze Island Elementary and Junior High School, Homeji,  Japan, direct via 
8N3B
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS  
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact was successful:  Sat 2016-06-04 08:31:09 UTC 74 deg (***)

Glenmore State High  School, Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia, telebridge 
via W6SRJ
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim  Kopra KE5UDN 
Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-06-06 08:39:31 UTC 31 deg  

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 119  (***)
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-06 07:00 UTC.  
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1061. (***)
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1026. (***)  
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total  number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by  year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,  and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-06 07:00 UTC.  
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  46 on orbit 
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

Exp. 47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From hawat1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  6 07:33:57 2016
From: hawat1 at yahoo.com (Andy Kellner)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 07:33:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-06
 07:00	UTC
In-Reply-To: <1f1a8d.75ef30d0.44867c51@aol.com>
References: <1f1a8d.75ef30d0.44867c51@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1066338133.1695130.1465198437927.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Is there a live stream for the Rockhampton contact ?

Andreas - VK4TH


      From: AJ9N--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
 To: amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org 
 Sent: Monday, 6 June 2016, 17:12
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-06 07:00 UTC
   
Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-06? 07:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and? events:

Bouze Island Elementary and Junior High School, Homeji,? Japan, direct via 
8N3B
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS? 
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact was successful:? Sat 2016-06-04 08:31:09 UTC 74 deg (***)

Glenmore State High? School, Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia, telebridge 
via W6SRJ
The ISS? callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim? Kopra KE5UDN 
Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-06-06 08:39:31 UTC 31 deg? 

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS? is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? 
ARISS? thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send 
your? reports to aj9n at amsat.org or? aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All? ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise? noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several? of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being? able to get in.? That has now been changed to? 
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS? websites from this? site.

****************************************************************************
Looking? for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the? ISS?? 
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for? complete 
details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham? Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? 

http://www.ariss-eu.org/ ? 

If you need some? assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some? insight.? Contact Kerry at? kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS? congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:? 

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 119? (***)
Francesco IK?WGF with? 116

****************************************************************************
The? webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date? 
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are? 
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me? know.

Note, all times are approximate.? It is recommended that you? do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before? the listed 
time. 
All dates and? times listed follow International? Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The? complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-06 07:00 UTC.? 
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and? 
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and? 
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.? ? 
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of? ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1061. (***)
Each school counts as 1? event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1026. (***)? 
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total? number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by? year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the? 
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please? feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are? needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The? following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,? Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,? and the Virgin? Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL? information may be found at:? 
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,? RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The? successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-06 07:00 UTC.? 
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00? UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing? of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30? UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check? out the Zoho reports of the ARISS? contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.? 46 on orbit 
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko? RK3DUP

Exp. 47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka? RN3FU 
Aleksey? Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie? Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors

_______________________________________________
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From dave at druidnetworks.com  Mon Jun  6 18:07:01 2016
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 13:07:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R Expedition to Santa Rosa Island and CM93
Message-ID: <CANq+eyVSCTL44DWTy_1uLmLtzvdG757_C-vNJ2d9RXJP9Z5Z-w@mail.gmail.com>

Satellite Friends and Colleagues,

Today we?re happy to announce the K6R Satellite Expedition to Santa Rosa
Island and CM93 is a go for September 16th-18th, 2016. We have secured
permissions and arranged to get to the island, spend 2 nights camping, and
operate on a number of Satellite passes ? as well as some terrestrial and
HF too.


We?ll be posting updates on the K6R QRZ.com page at
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/K6R and over the coming months with FAQs,
pictures, and more information.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to hit us up.


73!


Wyatt, AC0RA & Dave,KG5CCI

From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Mon Jun  6 20:07:26 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 15:07:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT at Ham-Com in Irving this weekend June 10-11
Message-ID: <CAPovOweY-6rk2+ZQBULZRtx-oOwGADQu52ju-7QCgOtC3O2Yvw@mail.gmail.com>

Ham-Com, Texas? largest amateur radio convention, will be held this
weekend June 10-11, 2016 in Irving, Texas. AMSAT will have a large
delegation of individuals ranging from engineers, casual operators,
and fanatics, to those just getting started.

We?ve expanded our booth this year, located in spaces 713-714 of the
3rd row from the inside swap area. Several operators will be available
to perform demonstrations using portable equipment including a vintage
pair of Icom IC-202/402?s owned by Glenn, AA5PK. Dave, KG5CCI, of
long-distance AO-7 & FO-29 QSO fame will be there as well as members
from the Fox and ARISS teams.

Saturday from 18:00-18:50 UTC, an AMSAT Forum will be held in room 11
featuring a panel led by long-time AMSAT volunteer and ARISS mentor
Keith, W5IU.

For questions, email: w5pfg at amsat.org  Event page: http://www.hamcom.org

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Mon Jun  6 20:51:07 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 15:51:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM90 on 6 June
Message-ID: <D8C6DC5CD54D43DFA456AB5CB48770F4@AA5PKPC>

All FO-29 QSOs from today's operation have been uploaded to LoTW.
If you need/want a hardcopy QSL, please email me and I'll get one in to mail to you.

73
Glenn / AA5PK 

From AJ9N at aol.com  Tue Jun  7 06:15:30 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 02:15:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-07 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <24dbf9.6ca38167.4487c082@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-07  07:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Glenmore State High School, Rockhampton, Queensland,  Australia, telebridge 
via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN 
Contact was successful:  Mon 2016-06-06 08:39:31 UTC 31 deg  (***)

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-07 07:00 UTC.  
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1062. (***)
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1027. (***)  
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total  number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by  year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,  and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-07 07:00 UTC.  
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  46 on orbit 
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

Exp. 47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From kb2m at arrl.net  Tue Jun  7 10:48:56 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 06:48:56 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 colonies sat ops
In-Reply-To: <038301d1bf8c$95e75ef0$c1b61cd0$@net>
References: <038301d1bf8c$95e75ef0$c1b61cd0$@net>
Message-ID: <086701d1c0aa$31054fa0$930feee0$@net>

Well it looks like the 13 colonies sat operations are a no go. I only could
get 7 of the 13 States covered. I will give it a try again next year. I want
to thank the 6 ops that volunteered, maybe next year guys....

73 Jeff kb2m 



From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 10:48:15 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:48:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] TX Factor Show features The King's School ARISS contact
References: <1995160722.425565.1465296495792.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1995160722.425565.1465296495792.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

A special edition of the popular TX Factor Show features The King?s School ARISS contact with Tim Peake GB1SS. Watch the video at 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/07/tx-factor-kings-school-iss/

French schools to talk to ISS 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/04/french-schools-thomas-pesquet/

OSCAR News Issue 214 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/05/31/oscar-news-issue-214/

ARISS school contacts explained on radio show 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/05/30/ariss-local-radio/


This year's AMSAT-UK Colloquium takes place July 29-31 at the Holiday Inn, Guildford and is open to all https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/


73 Trevor M5AKA
----
AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/
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Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK
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From WB4SON at gmail.com  Tue Jun  7 14:52:37 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:52:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 13 colonies sat ops
In-Reply-To: <086701d1c0aa$31054fa0$930feee0$@net>
References: <038301d1bf8c$95e75ef0$c1b61cd0$@net>
	<086701d1c0aa$31054fa0$930feee0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ-oFfCKWSSo=ot0Yjvn75=G7uvsfdLyE01kNq8c1xAtZg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for trying, Jeff.  Count me in for RI next year!

73, Bob, WB4SON

From k8bl at ameritech.net  Tue Jun  7 15:02:47 2016
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:02:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
References: <955327119.461358.1465311767533.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <955327119.461358.1465311767533.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

SAT Operators,
I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38 years of casual operating!
Earlier this year, I was going through my paper QSL's getting readyto make some submissions for various ARRL Awards at the DaytonHamvention. Sorting through the Cards, I made a stack of SatelliteQSL's. I started to notice that I had quite a few States confirmed andwondered if I was finally close to WAS even though I wasn't really inthe hunt very seriously.
Would you believe I had them ALL worked but was only missing a QSLfrom Vermont?!! Happily, it was Nick KB1RVT who I KNEW was alwaysgood for a confirmation which he quickly returned.
Oldest QSL used - W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 Oscar 8 Mode A CWLast State WKD - North Dakota W0N (Wyatt AC0RA) 11/13/15 SO50 FMLast QSL Rcvd - KB1RVT Nick in Vermont, 1/4/16 SO50 FM
50 States on SAT, 50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!! ?WHEW!!
Thanks to all who helped & 73, ? ?Bob K8BL ? (AMSAT since 1979)?

From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun  7 15:07:18 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:07:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
In-Reply-To: <955327119.461358.1465311767533.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <955327119.461358.1465311767533.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Congrats, Bob!

I'm sitting at both 49 states confirmed by paper QSL and 49 states
confirmed in my LoTW account. I just need someone in Hawaii who can
work down to the horizon to try an AO-7 sked (max elevations of no
more than 1.5 degrees on each side from within my WAS range).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> SAT Operators,
> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38 years of casual operating!
> Earlier this year, I was going through my paper QSL's getting readyto make some submissions for various ARRL Awards at the DaytonHamvention. Sorting through the Cards, I made a stack of SatelliteQSL's. I started to notice that I had quite a few States confirmed andwondered if I was finally close to WAS even though I wasn't really inthe hunt very seriously.
> Would you believe I had them ALL worked but was only missing a QSLfrom Vermont?!! Happily, it was Nick KB1RVT who I KNEW was alwaysgood for a confirmation which he quickly returned.
> Oldest QSL used - W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 Oscar 8 Mode A CWLast State WKD - North Dakota W0N (Wyatt AC0RA) 11/13/15 SO50 FMLast QSL Rcvd - KB1RVT Nick in Vermont, 1/4/16 SO50 FM
> 50 States on SAT, 50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!!  WHEW!!
> Thanks to all who helped & 73,    Bob K8BL   (AMSAT since 1979)
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From jim at k6ccc.org  Tue Jun  7 15:12:42 2016
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:12:42 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
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Congrats Bob!
  
 I remember finishing my WAS up.  Now if the ARRL would find my WAC 
submission that was lost (along with a few non-replacable QSL cards), I 
would be even happier.
  
 Jim Walls - K6CCC
  
  
  
  

----------------------------------------
 From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!   
SAT Operators, I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended 
upcovering 38 years of casual operating! Earlier this year, I was going 
through my paper QSL's getting readyto make some submissions for various 
ARRL Awards at the DaytonHamvention. Sorting through the Cards, I made a 
stack of SatelliteQSL's. I started to notice that I had quite a few States 
confirmed andwondered if I was finally close to WAS even though I wasn't 
really inthe hunt very seriously. Would you believe I had them ALL worked 
but was only missing a QSLfrom Vermont?!! Happily, it was Nick KB1RVT who I 
KNEW was alwaysgood for a confirmation which he quickly returned. Oldest 
QSL used - W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 Oscar 8 Mode A CWLast State WKD - 
North Dakota W0N (Wyatt AC0RA) 11/13/15 SO50 FMLast QSL Rcvd - KB1RVT Nick 
in Vermont, 1/4/16 SO50 FM 50 States on SAT, 50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!!  
WHEW!! Thanks to all who helped & 73,    Bob K8BL   (AMSAT since 1979)  
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From saguaroastro at cox.net  Tue Jun  7 17:12:32 2016
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 10:12:32 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
Message-ID: <9e71e2dkqlcsdvbvqklp9rtl.1465319552598@email.android.com>


    
Hopefully the proposed phase 4 & HEO opportunities will come to fruition snd make HI more reslistic.
Rick Tejera K7TEJSaguaroAstro at cox.net623-203-4121



-------- Original message --------
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> 
Date: 07/06/2016  08:07  (GMT-07:00) 
To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net> 
Cc: Amsat Bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later! 

Congrats, Bob!

I'm sitting at both 49 states confirmed by paper QSL and 49 states
confirmed in my LoTW account. I just need someone in Hawaii who can
work down to the horizon to try an AO-7 sked (max elevations of no
more than 1.5 degrees on each side from within my WAS range).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> SAT Operators,
> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38 years of casual operating!
> Earlier this year, I was going through my paper QSL's getting readyto make some submissions for various ARRL Awards at the DaytonHamvention. Sorting through the Cards, I made a stack of SatelliteQSL's. I started to notice that I had quite a few States confirmed andwondered if I was finally close to WAS even though I wasn't really inthe hunt very seriously.
> Would you believe I had them ALL worked but was only missing a QSLfrom Vermont?!! Happily, it was Nick KB1RVT who I KNEW was alwaysgood for a confirmation which he quickly returned.
> Oldest QSL used - W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 Oscar 8 Mode A CWLast State WKD - North Dakota W0N (Wyatt AC0RA) 11/13/15 SO50 FMLast QSL Rcvd - KB1RVT Nick in Vermont, 1/4/16 SO50 FM
> 50 States on SAT, 50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!!? WHEW!!
> Thanks to all who helped & 73,??? Bob K8BL?? (AMSAT since 1979)
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun  7 17:18:32 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:18:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
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I agree. However, it would be nice to do it on LEO as well. I know
there have been Washington, DC to Hawaii QSOs on AO-7 in the past
(though I'd likely go to a nice tall, quiet hill in Virginia within 50
miles for a sked).

After a Hawaii QSO, then I'd like a QSO with Siberia on FO-29 or AO-7
to complete a LEO WAC!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:
> Hopefully the proposed phase 4 & HEO opportunities will come to fruition snd
> make HI more reslistic.
>
> Rick Tejera K7TEJ
> SaguaroAstro at cox.net
> 623-203-4121
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
> Date: 07/06/2016 08:07 (GMT-07:00)
> To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net>
> Cc: Amsat Bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
>
> Congrats, Bob!
>
> I'm sitting at both 49 states confirmed by paper QSL and 49 states
> confirmed in my LoTW account. I just need someone in Hawaii who can
> work down to the horizon to try an AO-7 sked (max elevations of no
> more than 1.5 degrees on each side from within my WAS range).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
>> SAT Operators,
>> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38
>> years of casual operating!
>> Earlier this year, I was going through my paper QSL's getting readyto make
>> some submissions for various ARRL Awards at the DaytonHamvention. Sorting
>> through the Cards, I made a stack of SatelliteQSL's. I started to notice
>> that I had quite a few States confirmed andwondered if I was finally close
>> to WAS even though I wasn't really inthe hunt very seriously.
>> Would you believe I had them ALL worked but was only missing a QSLfrom
>> Vermont?!! Happily, it was Nick KB1RVT who I KNEW was alwaysgood for a
>> confirmation which he quickly returned.
>> Oldest QSL used - W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 Oscar 8 Mode A CWLast State
>> WKD - North Dakota W0N (Wyatt AC0RA) 11/13/15 SO50 FMLast QSL Rcvd - KB1RVT
>> Nick in Vermont, 1/4/16 SO50 FM
>> 50 States on SAT, 50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!!  WHEW!!
>> Thanks to all who helped & 73,    Bob K8BL   (AMSAT since 1979)
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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From WB4SON at gmail.com  Tue Jun  7 17:44:08 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:44:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
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Wow, Bob, that is a fantastic accomplishment, darned near impossible these
days.  Congratulations!

73, Bob, WB4SON

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:

> SAT Operators,
> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38
> years of casual operating!
> Earlier this year, I was going through my paper QSL's getting readyto make
> some submissions for various ARRL Awards at the DaytonHamvention. Sorting
> through the Cards, I made a stack of SatelliteQSL's. I started to notice
> that I had quite a few States confirmed andwondered if I was finally close
> to WAS even though I wasn't really inthe hunt very seriously.
> Would you believe I had them ALL worked but was only missing a QSLfrom
> Vermont?!! Happily, it was Nick KB1RVT who I KNEW was alwaysgood for a
> confirmation which he quickly returned.
> Oldest QSL used - W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 Oscar 8 Mode A CWLast State
> WKD - North Dakota W0N (Wyatt AC0RA) 11/13/15 SO50 FMLast QSL Rcvd - KB1RVT
> Nick in Vermont, 1/4/16 SO50 FM
> 50 States on SAT, 50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!!  WHEW!!
> Thanks to all who helped & 73,    Bob K8BL   (AMSAT since 1979)
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From saguaroastro at cox.net  Tue Jun  7 19:50:23 2016
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 12:50:23 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
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Paul, it certainly would be more satisfying on LEO given the challenge. The mutual window has to be quite short, I'd imagine.
Rick Tejera K7TEJSaguaroAstro at cox.net623-203-4121



-------- Original message --------
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> 
Date: 07/06/2016  10:18  (GMT-07:00) 
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro at cox.net> 
Cc: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net>, Amsat Bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later! 

I agree. However, it would be nice to do it on LEO as well. I know
there have been Washington, DC to Hawaii QSOs on AO-7 in the past
(though I'd likely go to a nice tall, quiet hill in Virginia within 50
miles for a sked).

After a Hawaii QSO, then I'd like a QSO with Siberia on FO-29 or AO-7
to complete a LEO WAC!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:
> Hopefully the proposed phase 4 & HEO opportunities will come to fruition snd
> make HI more reslistic.
>
> Rick Tejera K7TEJ
> SaguaroAstro at cox.net
> 623-203-4121
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
> Date: 07/06/2016 08:07 (GMT-07:00)
> To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net>
> Cc: Amsat Bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
>
> Congrats, Bob!
>
> I'm sitting at both 49 states confirmed by paper QSL and 49 states
> confirmed in my LoTW account. I just need someone in Hawaii who can
> work down to the horizon to try an AO-7 sked (max elevations of no
> more than 1.5 degrees on each side from within my WAS range).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
>> SAT Operators,
>> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38
>> years of casual operating!
>> Earlier this year, I was going through my paper QSL's getting readyto make
>> some submissions for various ARRL Awards at the DaytonHamvention. Sorting
>> through the Cards, I made a stack of SatelliteQSL's. I started to notice
>> that I had quite a few States confirmed andwondered if I was finally close
>> to WAS even though I wasn't really inthe hunt very seriously.
>> Would you believe I had them ALL worked but was only missing a QSLfrom
>> Vermont?!! Happily, it was Nick KB1RVT who I KNEW was alwaysgood for a
>> confirmation which he quickly returned.
>> Oldest QSL used - W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 Oscar 8 Mode A CWLast State
>> WKD - North Dakota W0N (Wyatt AC0RA) 11/13/15 SO50 FMLast QSL Rcvd - KB1RVT
>> Nick in Vermont, 1/4/16 SO50 FM
>> 50 States on SAT, 50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!!? WHEW!!
>> Thanks to all who helped & 73,??? Bob K8BL?? (AMSAT since 1979)
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  7 20:22:35 2016
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:22:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2m/70cm beams and accessories for sale-good for
	satellites
Message-ID: <CAHC1P28fmxjQ5e9S7nZgOg0iaSF7jOOk+6nOTe12XbGEnqkUPA@mail.gmail.com>

I have for sale the following VHF/UHF antennas and accessories:

1. Cushcraft A148-10S 2 meter yagi.  10 elements on a 12 foot boom.  About
4 months old, works fine. Sells new for $130 I am asking $85 shipped.

2. Diamond A430S15 15 element 70cm yagi on a 7 foot boom.  Very easy to
assemble, would make good roving antenna as well.  Sells new for $90 plus
shipping. I am asking $70 shipped.

3. MFJ 1762 3 element 6 meter yagi on a 6 foot boom.  Weighs all of 2
pounds.  Works nicely for a 3 element beam.  Very easy to
assemble/disassemble, would make a nice roving antenna.  I had to modify
how the one side of the director mounts to the boom, but still easy to take
on and off.  Sells new for $99.95 plus shipping, I am asking $60 shipped.

4. MFJ 2m/70cm diplexer with SO239 connectors on it.  Used for 2 or 3 days
only, works fine.  These sell new for $30 plus shipping, I am asking $25
shipped.

5. Hygain (pre-mfj) CD-44 antenna rotor.  Medium duty rotor, recently
refurbished, with Ham IV style control box, and around 50 feet of 8 wire
cable.  Performs excellent.  A new CD45 rotor sells for $430 plus the
cable.  I am asking $200 shipped.  I also have the lower mast mounting
bracket if you need that as well.

All prices include shipping in the US.  I can take paypal/check/MO.

73 John AF5CC

From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Tue Jun  7 20:50:53 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:50:53 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
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Congratulations Bob! Very nice accomplishment!

I'm at 45 states confirmed, only needing CT, HI, ME, NH and NY. They are
doable from AZ, but haven't had the luck to work ops from those states.

Hope to hear you on the birds soon.

73 amigo

Fernando, NP4JV
Wow, Bob, that is a fantastic accomplishment, darned near impossible these
days.  Congratulations!

73, Bob, WB4SON

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:

> SAT Operators,
> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38
> years of casual operating!
> Earlier this year, I was going through my paper QSL's getting readyto make
> some submissions for various ARRL Awards at the DaytonHamvention. Sorting
> through the Cards, I made a stack of SatelliteQSL's. I started to notice
> that I had quite a few States confirmed andwondered if I was finally close
> to WAS even though I wasn't really inthe hunt very seriously.
> Would you believe I had them ALL worked but was only missing a QSLfrom
> Vermont?!! Happily, it was Nick KB1RVT who I KNEW was alwaysgood for a
> confirmation which he quickly returned.
> Oldest QSL used - W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 Oscar 8 Mode A CWLast State
> WKD - North Dakota W0N (Wyatt AC0RA) 11/13/15 SO50 FMLast QSL Rcvd -
KB1RVT
> Nick in Vermont, 1/4/16 SO50 FM
> 50 States on SAT, 50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!!  WHEW!!
> Thanks to all who helped & 73,    Bob K8BL   (AMSAT since 1979)
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From plaws0 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  7 20:57:16 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:57:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Optimal QTH? (Re:  WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ_GF9LgSjt0nK65zxP24uw62UEttPQugVCFRWrViPkH+w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> SAT Operators,
> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38 years of casual operating!

Congrats!

I am currently awaiting an Arrow from Arrow HQ and hope to start
making contacts.  Not sure I can wait 38 years, however.  :-)

I am in EM15, so shouldn't have much trouble even with LEOs, but has
anyone calculated the "optimal" area for WAS QSOs?  I would expect
it's pretty close to where I am but footprint is a factor, too.
Anyone figured it out?




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From dave at druidnetworks.com  Tue Jun  7 21:03:19 2016
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:03:19 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Optimal QTH? (Re: WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
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I'm not too far away from you in EM34, and I got WAS completed in about 8
months of pretty hard operating. I had to set a few schedules, and catch a
few portable operators at the right time - but those of us in the
south-central part of the county are in a pretty good spot for WAS. It's
definitely doable on the LEO's in short order, if you operate pretty
heavily for a while.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> > SAT Operators,
> > I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38
> years of casual operating!
>
> Congrats!
>
> I am currently awaiting an Arrow from Arrow HQ and hope to start
> making contacts.  Not sure I can wait 38 years, however.  :-)
>
> I am in EM15, so shouldn't have much trouble even with LEOs, but has
> anyone calculated the "optimal" area for WAS QSOs?  I would expect
> it's pretty close to where I am but footprint is a factor, too.
> Anyone figured it out?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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From dave at druidnetworks.com  Tue Jun  7 21:05:04 2016
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:05:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Optimal QTH? (Re: WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
In-Reply-To: <CANq+eyU5E=vKoyQYkm_DzjosBeWXBm2pF+ja+DAuFCC+GQS2Eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ_GF9LgSjt0nK65zxP24uw62UEttPQugVCFRWrViPkH+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyU5E=vKoyQYkm_DzjosBeWXBm2pF+ja+DAuFCC+GQS2Eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANq+eyU3DNGTdAe6K7U7=wYHubyrFn48fkyySmWg0OgEhAU8mA@mail.gmail.com>

Bah, email sent before I was ready - Congrats Bill, that's a great
accomplishment - those last few are tricky :)

73!

-Dave, KG5CCI

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM, David Swanson <dave at druidnetworks.com>
wrote:

> I'm not too far away from you in EM34, and I got WAS completed in about 8
> months of pretty hard operating. I had to set a few schedules, and catch a
> few portable operators at the right time - but those of us in the
> south-central part of the county are in a pretty good spot for WAS. It's
> definitely doable on the LEO's in short order, if you operate pretty
> heavily for a while.
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
>> > SAT Operators,
>> > I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38
>> years of casual operating!
>>
>> Congrats!
>>
>> I am currently awaiting an Arrow from Arrow HQ and hope to start
>> making contacts.  Not sure I can wait 38 years, however.  :-)
>>
>> I am in EM15, so shouldn't have much trouble even with LEOs, but has
>> anyone calculated the "optimal" area for WAS QSOs?  I would expect
>> it's pretty close to where I am but footprint is a factor, too.
>> Anyone figured it out?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>
>

From dave at druidnetworks.com  Tue Jun  7 21:06:48 2016
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:06:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Optimal QTH? (Re: WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
In-Reply-To: <CANq+eyU3DNGTdAe6K7U7=wYHubyrFn48fkyySmWg0OgEhAU8mA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ_GF9LgSjt0nK65zxP24uw62UEttPQugVCFRWrViPkH+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyU5E=vKoyQYkm_DzjosBeWXBm2pF+ja+DAuFCC+GQS2Eg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyU3DNGTdAe6K7U7=wYHubyrFn48fkyySmWg0OgEhAU8mA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANq+eyXm812EHDGJ1fYZ7x+N1V=PbedncyVXhGfibrZybrcwMQ@mail.gmail.com>

BOB - Not Bill.. not typing emails on my phone anymore..

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:05 PM, David Swanson <dave at druidnetworks.com>
wrote:

> Bah, email sent before I was ready - Congrats Bill, that's a great
> accomplishment - those last few are tricky :)
>
> 73!
>
> -Dave, KG5CCI
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM, David Swanson <dave at druidnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not too far away from you in EM34, and I got WAS completed in about 8
>> months of pretty hard operating. I had to set a few schedules, and catch a
>> few portable operators at the right time - but those of us in the
>> south-central part of the county are in a pretty good spot for WAS. It's
>> definitely doable on the LEO's in short order, if you operate pretty
>> heavily for a while.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> > SAT Operators,
>>> > I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38
>>> years of casual operating!
>>>
>>> Congrats!
>>>
>>> I am currently awaiting an Arrow from Arrow HQ and hope to start
>>> making contacts.  Not sure I can wait 38 years, however.  :-)
>>>
>>> I am in EM15, so shouldn't have much trouble even with LEOs, but has
>>> anyone calculated the "optimal" area for WAS QSOs?  I would expect
>>> it's pretty close to where I am but footprint is a factor, too.
>>> Anyone figured it out?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
>>
>

From wh6xm at mac.com  Tue Jun  7 22:12:33 2016
From: wh6xm at mac.com (Robert Newcomb Jr.)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 12:12:33 -1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29
Message-ID: <B77C68DC-699E-4F85-A7B4-16381756662B@mac.com>

I have focused my attention to FO-29 where I can work the satellite when it is 2 degrees above my horizon.  On a good day I am able to make about three contacts on one pass.  I am trying to work the satellite on all available passes to me.  For anyone interested in making contact, I am available. Be patient and keep trying as conditions are always changing.

73's
Bob WH6XM  



From aa5uk at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  7 23:49:05 2016
From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 23:49:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Optimal QTH? (Re:  WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ_GF9LgSjt0nK65zxP24uw62UEttPQugVCFRWrViPkH+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ_GF9LgSjt0nK65zxP24uw62UEttPQugVCFRWrViPkH+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1973294316.126570.1465343345588.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Peter,
Get your lat/long first: http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html

Then go to the bottom of the AMSAT page look for your satellites of choice. The satellite range will be mostly accurate but change slightly over a period of time depending on when a satellite is at apogee at certain times. 

http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=4751? 

Enter your lat/Long and the satellite range. Then create a sheet for each satellite based on your home or portable location. This will tell you what you should be able to work. 

http://ns6t.net/azimuth/azimuth.html
Good luck!
73, Adrian AA5UK - ZF2AE (in a few weeks)

      From: Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com>
 To: Amsat Bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:57 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Optimal QTH? (Re: WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
   
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> SAT Operators,
> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38 years of casual operating!

Congrats!

I am currently awaiting an Arrow from Arrow HQ and hope to start
making contacts.? Not sure I can wait 38 years, however.? :-)

I am in EM15, so shouldn't have much trouble even with LEOs, but has
anyone calculated the "optimal" area for WAS QSOs?? I would expect
it's pretty close to where I am but footprint is a factor, too.
Anyone figured it out?




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From w5pfg at amsat.org  Wed Jun  8 00:47:28 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 19:47:28 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Optimal QTH? (Re: WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
In-Reply-To: <1973294316.126570.1465343345588.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CANVAiQ_GF9LgSjt0nK65zxP24uw62UEttPQugVCFRWrViPkH+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1973294316.126570.1465343345588.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a5df9f1e-7124-d1a8-7eb3-8621f45ef7b2@amsat.org>

Alternatively one can install Great Circle Maps for Windows (gcmwin) by 
SM3GSJ: http://www.qsl.net/sm3gsj/gcm.htm

Once you enter your position, it will let you create range circles.  I 
would set the maximum one to 8250km.  Assuming you have an outstanding 
location with a view to the horizon and low RF noise you could possibly 
hit that distance with one of our current satellites but it's more than 
likely your maximum contacts are going to be in the 7500-7800km range. 
Your mileage may vary.

Peter, you can achieve WAS from EM15 but you will likely need FO-29 or 
AO-7 to make it for AK and HI.  AK is in range on SO-50 but your windows 
will be short and if the other station has any obstructions (aka 
mountains) nearby, you're out of luck.

I have operated from all of the gridsquares in and around Oklahoma. 
Feel free to email direct.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 6/7/2016 18:49, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> Get your lat/long first: http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html
>
> Then go to the bottom of the AMSAT page look for your satellites of choice. The satellite range will be mostly accurate but change slightly over a period of time depending on when a satellite is at apogee at certain times.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=4751
>
> Enter your lat/Long and the satellite range. Then create a sheet for each satellite based on your home or portable location. This will tell you what you should be able to work.
>
> http://ns6t.net/azimuth/azimuth.html
> Good luck!
> 73, Adrian AA5UK - ZF2AE (in a few weeks)
>
>       From: Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com>
>  To: Amsat Bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>  Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:57 PM
>  Subject: [amsat-bb] Optimal QTH? (Re: WAS-SAT 38 Years Later!
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
>> SAT Operators,
>> I just received my WAS-Satellite Award #341 which ended upcovering 38 years of casual operating!
>
> Congrats!
>
> I am currently awaiting an Arrow from Arrow HQ and hope to start
> making contacts.  Not sure I can wait 38 years, however.  :-)
>
> I am in EM15, so shouldn't have much trouble even with LEOs, but has
> anyone calculated the "optimal" area for WAS QSOs?  I would expect
> it's pretty close to where I am but footprint is a factor, too.
> Anyone figured it out?
>
>
>
>

From AJ9N at aol.com  Wed Jun  8 06:18:48 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 02:18:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-08 06:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <2ad257.4b7fa0a4.448912c8@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-08  06:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Briargreen Public School, Nepean, ON, Canada, telebridge  via VK4KHZ (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The  scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI (***)
Contact is a go for: Mon  2016-06-13 15:19:15 UTC 31 deg (***)  

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-08 06:00 UTC.  
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1062.
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1027.
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,  and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-07 07:00 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  46 on orbit 
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

Exp. 47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From art.ballentine at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 14:35:02 2016
From: art.ballentine at gmail.com (Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 14:35:02 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G5400B - First and next steps
Message-ID: <CABAKp2HjgWFVaq-wRtv=9MqhmPyAHRim8JVsc6TX9=dU0R68Cg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I just picked up a Yaesu G5400B Az\El from another ham who was using it for
EME.
This is my first rotator, so any hints and tips would be greatly
appreciated.
I have noticed some sticking in the control box, so I'm guessing DeOxit is
in my future.
The goal is to get this under computer control. What's the best way of
doing this?

Thanks,
Frank B
kb1qzh

From petitnoel47 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 14:51:13 2016
From: petitnoel47 at gmail.com (Noel J Petit)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 09:51:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] G5400 B
Message-ID: <77652a0a-4747-2d8a-2cd2-5b3732eefff9@gmail.com>

You will need an interface from the computer to the control box. One 
that uses USB from the computer is the

ERC-M <http://schmidt-alba.de/eshop/>

It is a simple system and interfaces well with SATPC32 or WxTrack

Another is the:
<http://store.amsat.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_25>
LVB tracker sold by AMSAT 
<http://store.amsat.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_25>

If you have radios with CAT interfaces you can use SATPC32 or WxTrack to 
run the radios and the rotor tracker.

All have their quirks but keep asking on this list and we will try to help.

Noel Petit




From mattpatt at 1starnet.com  Wed Jun  8 15:32:32 2016
From: mattpatt at 1starnet.com (Matt Patterson)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:32:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites
In-Reply-To: <2ad257.4b7fa0a4.448912c8@aol.com>
References: <2ad257.4b7fa0a4.448912c8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>

Hi All,

I've recently become interested again in working some of the satellites 
that are still operational.  Back when I was active 4-5 years ago I was 
working FM only and now want to get back into it and try FO-29 and AO-7 
as well.  I purchased a SDRPlay with the hopes of using it as the 
downlink receive and already have a Yaesu FT-857 (that I'll set to low 
power) or a cheap Chinese HT as my uplink depending on the satellite.  
Are there any others out there who use the SDRPlay for this purpose?  I 
know Patrick (WD9EWK) has used one before and I have been corresponding 
with him via e-mail but was just curious if there were any others out 
there that do as well.

73 Matt
W5LL
EM23DP

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 15:50:08 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 11:50:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites
In-Reply-To: <b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>
References: <2ad257.4b7fa0a4.448912c8@aol.com>
	<b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>
Message-ID: <9F18A509CD5C4191ACB7AF7141185293@CSI9020>

Matt, I put the "amateur" in amateur radio, but I find that the SDRPlay 
works great for satellite reception (FM or SSB).

I only have FM transmit capability, but I often monitor the SSB satellite 
passes and it sure makes it easy to have a visual indication of where the 
downlink signals are located.  I have nothing but the highest admiration for 
the years that people have spent finding downlink signals with a 
conventional radio where you can't SEE the signal, but have to hunt for it 
by tuning around.  Just amazing.

Anyway, I don't think I could go back from the ease of  use that an SDR 
display gives you on finding downlink signals.  Auto-doppler tracking is an 
nice bonus, too!

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- 
From: Matt Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:32 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites

Hi All,

I've recently become interested again in working some of the satellites
that are still operational.  Back when I was active 4-5 years ago I was
working FM only and now want to get back into it and try FO-29 and AO-7
as well.  I purchased a SDRPlay with the hopes of using it as the
downlink receive and already have a Yaesu FT-857 (that I'll set to low
power) or a cheap Chinese HT as my uplink depending on the satellite.
Are there any others out there who use the SDRPlay for this purpose?  I
know Patrick (WD9EWK) has used one before and I have been corresponding
with him via e-mail but was just curious if there were any others out
there that do as well.

73 Matt
W5LL
EM23DP 


From jbr13 at md.metrocast.net  Wed Jun  8 16:20:39 2016
From: jbr13 at md.metrocast.net (jbr13 at md.metrocast.net)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:20:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites
In-Reply-To: <b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>
References: <2ad257.4b7fa0a4.448912c8@aol.com>
	<b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>
Message-ID: <3ade1b261dabf184f3a38663f7632263@md.metrocast.net>

Matt,  I am also using the SDRPlay for downlink along with a FT-817ND.  
It works great and seeing the downlink signals makes it very nice.  I 
also find it easy to maintain a centered freq. when you can see your own 
signal coming down if you run two antennas.  The only issues I have 
noticed are, one sunny days make it difficult to see the laptop screen, 
and two running a radio, computer and tracking with an Arrow antenna on 
a tripod take a little to get used to.  I really like seeing the 
signals, tracking satellites with the SDR Console software, and being 
able to record the qso's right in SDR Console.  Great stuff!


N3YUG
Jason





On 06-08-2016 11:32 AM, Matt Patterson wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've recently become interested again in working some of the
> satellites that are still operational.  Back when I was active 4-5
> years ago I was working FM only and now want to get back into it and
> try FO-29 and AO-7 as well.  I purchased a SDRPlay with the hopes of
> using it as the downlink receive and already have a Yaesu FT-857 (that
> I'll set to low power) or a cheap Chinese HT as my uplink depending on
> the satellite.  Are there any others out there who use the SDRPlay for
> this purpose?  I know Patrick (WD9EWK) has used one before and I have
> been corresponding with him via e-mail but was just curious if there
> were any others out there that do as well.
> 
> 73 Matt
> W5LL
> EM23DP
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From ki0g at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  8 16:21:55 2016
From: ki0g at yahoo.com (Bob Cutter)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 16:21:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites
In-Reply-To: <9F18A509CD5C4191ACB7AF7141185293@CSI9020>
References: <2ad257.4b7fa0a4.448912c8@aol.com>
	<b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>
	<9F18A509CD5C4191ACB7AF7141185293@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <1935927021.572311.1465402915366.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; }  What software are you using?
Bob KI0G


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, 9:50 AM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

Matt, I put the "amateur" in amateur radio, but I find that the SDRPlay 
works great for satellite reception (FM or SSB).

I only have FM transmit capability, but I often monitor the SSB satellite 
passes and it sure makes it easy to have a visual indication of where the 
downlink signals are located.? I have nothing but the highest admiration for 
the years that people have spent finding downlink signals with a 
conventional radio where you can't SEE the signal, but have to hunt for it 
by tuning around.? Just amazing.

Anyway, I don't think I could go back from the ease of? use that an SDR 
display gives you on finding downlink signals.? Auto-doppler tracking is an 
nice bonus, too!

-Scott,? K4KDR
Montpelier, VA? USA


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- 
From: Matt Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:32 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites

Hi All,

I've recently become interested again in working some of the satellites
that are still operational.? Back when I was active 4-5 years ago I was
working FM only and now want to get back into it and try FO-29 and AO-7
as well.? I purchased a SDRPlay with the hopes of using it as the
downlink receive and already have a Yaesu FT-857 (that I'll set to low
power) or a cheap Chinese HT as my uplink depending on the satellite.
Are there any others out there who use the SDRPlay for this purpose?? I
know Patrick (WD9EWK) has used one before and I have been corresponding
with him via e-mail but was just curious if there were any others out
there that do as well.

73 Matt
W5LL
EM23DP 

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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 16:37:47 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:37:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites
In-Reply-To: <1935927021.572311.1465402915366.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2ad257.4b7fa0a4.448912c8@aol.com>
	<b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>
	<9F18A509CD5C4191ACB7AF7141185293@CSI9020>
	<1935927021.572311.1465402915366.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6A5AE4FE023D43FFBFB82592A2696AA0@CSI9020>

If that?s directed at me, Bob, I?ve tried many of the various SDR apps and find that HDSDR suits my needs the best.

I track with Orbitron and that can tune HDSDR for doppler if you wish.  Auto-doppler tracking works great for FM, but SSB seems to be more of a moving target at times.

As someone else mentioned, the ability to record audio with the SDR app is great, too.  One thing that might not be obvious is recording the entire band, not just the frequency you?re working.  For SSB satellites, on playback, you can tune over to other signals and listen to other QSO?s if you?re curious to see who else was on.

But take my experience with a grain of salt ? I do much more telemetry reception than voice satellite work.

-Scott, K4KDR


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From: Bob Cutter 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:21 PM
To: Scott ; amsat-bb at amsat.org 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites

What software are you using? 

Bob KI0G

====================================

On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, 9:50 AM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

  Matt, I put the "amateur" in amateur radio, but I find that the SDRPlay 
  works great for satellite reception (FM or SSB).

  I only have FM transmit capability, but I often monitor the SSB satellite 
  passes and it sure makes it easy to have a visual indication of where the 
  downlink signals are located.  I have nothing but the highest admiration for 
  the years that people have spent finding downlink signals with a 
  conventional radio where you can't SEE the signal, but have to hunt for it 
  by tuning around.  Just amazing.

  Anyway, I don't think I could go back from the ease of  use that an SDR 
  display gives you on finding downlink signals.  Auto-doppler tracking is an 
  nice bonus, too!

  -Scott,  K4KDR
  Montpelier, VA  USA


  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


  -----Original Message----- 
  From: Matt Patterson
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:32 AM
  To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
  Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites

  Hi All,

  I've recently become interested again in working some of the satellites
  that are still operational.  Back when I was active 4-5 years ago I was
  working FM only and now want to get back into it and try FO-29 and AO-7
  as well.  I purchased a SDRPlay with the hopes of using it as the
  downlink receive and already have a Yaesu FT-857 (that I'll set to low
  power) or a cheap Chinese HT as my uplink depending on the satellite.
  Are there any others out there who use the SDRPlay for this purpose?  I
  know Patrick (WD9EWK) has used one before and I have been corresponding
  with him via e-mail but was just curious if there were any others out
  there that do as well.

  73 Matt
  W5LL
  EM23DP 

From doug49707 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 16:52:35 2016
From: doug49707 at gmail.com (Doug)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:52:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc-32
Message-ID: <B3701092-D9C8-434F-A6EE-7E23C5CDB977@gmail.com>


Quick question. Does dates run on Windows 10?  Thanks Doug wd8z
Sent from my iPhone

From pconver at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 16:57:25 2016
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 13:57:25 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G5400B - First and next steps
In-Reply-To: <CABAKp2HjgWFVaq-wRtv=9MqhmPyAHRim8JVsc6TX9=dU0R68Cg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABAKp2HjgWFVaq-wRtv=9MqhmPyAHRim8JVsc6TX9=dU0R68Cg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKm-JGzYn3KC_B-OygyteQ_yEF7=nwt6Sh_Dwy8Vnn0T8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Frank,

Try http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm , along with wispDDE driver could
control Rotor as well as Dopplers.

Wishing success in installing and using your Rotor.

73, lu7abf, Pedro

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr
<art.ballentine at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just picked up a Yaesu G5400B Az\El from another ham who was using it for
> EME.
> This is my first rotator, so any hints and tips would be greatly
> appreciated.
> I have noticed some sticking in the control box, so I'm guessing DeOxit is
> in my future.
> The goal is to get this under computer control. What's the best way of
> doing this?
>
> Thanks,
> Frank B
> kb1qzh
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 17:09:01 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:09:01 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRPlay and Satellites
In-Reply-To: <b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>
References: <2ad257.4b7fa0a4.448912c8@aol.com>
	<b00e4490-161e-d477-d7b9-6d131b563043@1starnet.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHXx8jKv0ZVPsrQX4N9gathD1eyzcCzsw3n6E0AbWWQv+OL9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Matt,

I use a SDRPlay with HDSDR as my satellite downlink receiver. For uplink, a
FT-817nd with an Elk antenna (or Arrow).

73
Fernando, NP4JV
On Jun 8, 2016 8:42 AM, "Matt Patterson" <mattpatt at 1starnet.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've recently become interested again in working some of the satellites
> that are still operational.  Back when I was active 4-5 years ago I was
> working FM only and now want to get back into it and try FO-29 and AO-7 as
> well.  I purchased a SDRPlay with the hopes of using it as the downlink
> receive and already have a Yaesu FT-857 (that I'll set to low power) or a
> cheap Chinese HT as my uplink depending on the satellite.  Are there any
> others out there who use the SDRPlay for this purpose?  I know Patrick
> (WD9EWK) has used one before and I have been corresponding with him via
> e-mail but was just curious if there were any others out there that do as
> well.
>
> 73 Matt
> W5LL
> EM23DP
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 17:19:18 2016
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:19:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Few additional VHF/UHF items for sale
Message-ID: <CAHC1P2-2FRQmiEhDki4q1pcLfnqJ0AOtp9_nsb-MSpuu64aKHw@mail.gmail.com>

I have a few more VHF/UHF related items for sale.  Here is what I have
available:

1.A Hygain AR30 light duty TV type rotor with a couple of pieces of 3
conductor rotor cable with it.  Asking $25 plus $15 shipping.

2.  A Micronta 2m/70cm wattmeter and SWR meter.  Has two settings for
power-15 watts and 60 watts.  Asking $25 plus $5 for shipping.

3. 3 RG8X coax jumpers with PL259s on each end.  Each one is 3 feet long.
Asking $5 each plus $2 for shipping.  Buy all 3 for $16 shipped.

4. A Daiwa 2 position heavy duty coax switch, good thru the UHF range.
Asking $20 plus $5 shipping.

5. Two N male to SO239 adaptors.  One looks brand new, the other one has
some coax seal residue on it but it works fine.  Asking $9 shipped for both.

I can take paypal/check/MO.

73 John AF5CC

From seb at wintek.com  Wed Jun  8 18:25:36 2016
From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen  E. Belter)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 18:25:36 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc-32
In-Reply-To: <B3701092-D9C8-434F-A6EE-7E23C5CDB977@gmail.com>
References: <B3701092-D9C8-434F-A6EE-7E23C5CDB977@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0CAFD7C4-1C3B-44E9-8563-0187FF7E0282@wintek.com>

Yes, SatPC32 runs on Windows 10.  

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com


> On Jun 8, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Doug <doug49707 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Quick question. Does dates run on Windows 10?  Thanks Doug wd8z
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 18:40:10 2016
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 14:40:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G5400B - First and next steps
In-Reply-To: <CANTZqKm-JGzYn3KC_B-OygyteQ_yEF7=nwt6Sh_Dwy8Vnn0T8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABAKp2HjgWFVaq-wRtv=9MqhmPyAHRim8JVsc6TX9=dU0R68Cg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANTZqKm-JGzYn3KC_B-OygyteQ_yEF7=nwt6Sh_Dwy8Vnn0T8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJUhCTN7VMhzfv_Wy1KJkOyGFc_cmjhUveGqco9yhZm=wXiR2w@mail.gmail.com>

Top three pics are of a G-5400 resurrected. Portable in FM28lo

https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/

K3NG arduino controlled rotator with a gps rx and four extra relays
controlled via serial. Total cost of a basic controller is about $30.
As built? Around 100$

Tripod, antennas, preamps, radios, rotator and batteries not included.

Norm n3ykf

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Pedro Converso <pconver at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Frank,
>
> Try http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm , along with wispDDE driver could
> control Rotor as well as Dopplers.
>
> Wishing success in installing and using your Rotor.
>
> 73, lu7abf, Pedro
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr
> <art.ballentine at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just picked up a Yaesu G5400B Az\El from another ham who was using it for
>> EME.
>> This is my first rotator, so any hints and tips would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> I have noticed some sticking in the control box, so I'm guessing DeOxit is
>> in my future.
>> The goal is to get this under computer control. What's the best way of
>> doing this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Frank B
>> kb1qzh
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Wed Jun  8 20:36:50 2016
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 14:36:50 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 preposition antenna
Message-ID: <575881E2.9080903@coloradosatellite.com>

Is it possible to have SatPC32 position the rotors to the AOS azimuth 
before the pass starts?  We are loosing about 30 seconds of data while 
they rotate 180ish degrees from the LOS asimuth of the previous pass.


From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Wed Jun  8 22:27:58 2016
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 16:27:58 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 rotor preposition
Message-ID: <57589BEE.8020103@coloradosatellite.com>

Thanks to all who answered.  We are trying the -2 elevation setting.
Jim

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 23:03:00 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 19:03:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Spacesuit MAI-75 Image! - Last Pass of April
 2016 ISS SSTV Event - Video #4
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO8BqAeCXLJ7GzT0qpsODJx+Ag1EbP0cBumqMxMp7RiBQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://youtu.be/TmZI_62mag4

If you liked this video please subscribe to me on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1

To see the previous videos in this series go here:

ISS SSTV April 2016 Video #1 - Monday Failure and Tuesday Success
https://youtu.be/ieR-nmkjeSc

Perfect ISS SSTV Images... Almost! - ISS SSTV April 2016 Video #2
https://youtu.be/JoFrVRfc4Ks

Rare MAI-75 USA ISS SSTV Reception - April 2016 Video #3
https://youtu.be/cUnkrlRJJuw

This is one of two rare MAI-75 passes over North America. The other is
in Video #3 in this series (see link above). It's rare because the
MAI-75 event only took place for a few hours of Thursday and Friday
during the week long event, and almost all of the passes didn't go
over North America, so getting it was really special. This was a great
way to round out the April 2016 ISS SSTV week long event! I love this
SuitSat image!

Eventually I hope to make a time lapse of all the ISS SSTV images I
received during this event, but my next video will be of an SO-50 pass
where I made six contacts, five of which were back to back.

73,

John Brier KG4AKV

From wageners at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 23:13:54 2016
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 18:13:54 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Spacesuit MAI-75 Image! - Last Pass of April
 2016 ISS SSTV Event - Video #4
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKO8BqAeCXLJ7GzT0qpsODJx+Ag1EbP0cBumqMxMp7RiBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKO8BqAeCXLJ7GzT0qpsODJx+Ag1EbP0cBumqMxMp7RiBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHCL_NSBO7LTy1Oc6=T5VNpks-AQgLdP-+p+ak4KJnfMjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi John,

Was good seeing you in Dayton. Very much appreciate your enthusiam.

73, Stefan, VE4NSA

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 6:03 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> https://youtu.be/TmZI_62mag4
>
> If you liked this video please subscribe to me on YouTube:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1
>
> To see the previous videos in this series go here:
>
> ISS SSTV April 2016 Video #1 - Monday Failure and Tuesday Success
> https://youtu.be/ieR-nmkjeSc
>
> Perfect ISS SSTV Images... Almost! - ISS SSTV April 2016 Video #2
> https://youtu.be/JoFrVRfc4Ks
>
> Rare MAI-75 USA ISS SSTV Reception - April 2016 Video #3
> https://youtu.be/cUnkrlRJJuw
>
> This is one of two rare MAI-75 passes over North America. The other is
> in Video #3 in this series (see link above). It's rare because the
> MAI-75 event only took place for a few hours of Thursday and Friday
> during the week long event, and almost all of the passes didn't go
> over North America, so getting it was really special. This was a great
> way to round out the April 2016 ISS SSTV week long event! I love this
> SuitSat image!
>
> Eventually I hope to make a time lapse of all the ISS SSTV images I
> received during this event, but my next video will be of an SO-50 pass
> where I made six contacts, five of which were back to back.
>
> 73,
>
> John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jun  9 03:53:01 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 03:53:01 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ Prescott (Arizona) Hamfest, 11 June 2016
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUd-p__d_vz7c4rQ3Sy2vJRboZcxB2MRrXTWFXmHxaq0kw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I will have an AMSAT booth at the Prescott Hamfest in Prescott, Arizona,
this Saturday, 11 June 2016. The hamfest will be at the Prescott campus of
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, along Willow Creek Road and south of
Pioneer Parkway in Prescott. The hamfest is jointly hosted by the Yavapai
Amateur Radio Club and the Eagle Amateur Radio Club at Embry-Riddle
Aeronautical University. More information about the hamfest is available
at:

http://www.w7yrc.org/prescott-hamfest/

The hamfest officially starts at noon (1900 UTC) on Friday, 10 June 2016,
but I won't be up there until Saturday morning at 8am (1500 UTC). The
hamfest is scheduled to run all day Saturday, until 5pm (0000 UTC).

During the day, look for WD9EWK on various satellite passes demonstrating
amateur satellite operating. If you hear WD9EWK, please feel free to call
and be a part of the demonstrations. The hamfest site is in grid DM34.
After the hamfest, all QSOs made with WD9EWK will be uploaded to Logbook of
the World. QSL cards will be available on request - just e-mail me directly
with the QSO details. No card or SASE required. If you are in the log, you
will get a QSL card.

During the hamfest, I will use my @WD9EWK Twitter feed to send out pictures
and other news from the hamfest. If you don't use Twitter, you can see my
tweets in a web browser at: http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

Thanks in advance, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jun  9 04:28:44 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 04:28:44 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK from northern Arizona (DM34/35/45),
	11-12 June 2016
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUdxijdOE4pZ0gmzSthMTjsw6FMhy+N-H_xjDN38rp_Y8w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

After the Prescott Hamfest wraps up on Saturday, I plan on heading to
Flagstaff in northern Arizona. This was my plan for last weekend, which I
had to cancel abruptly. I won't be able to make it over to the Petrified
Forest National Park along I-40 in eastern Arizona this weekend, but I do
plan on visiting at least 2 sites for the ARRL's National Parks on the Air
activity and a grid boundary in northern Arizona.

After the hamfest, I am looking to work at least one, and *maybe* two,
SO-50 passes from the DM34/DM35 grid boundary near Ash Fork in northern
Arizona on Saturday evening. I have operated from this location in the
past, along a county road running parallel to AZ-89 south of Ash Fork.
The first of the two SO-50 passes Saturday evening is just before 0200 UTC,
and there should still be daylight up there at that time. The later pass
will probably be dark, except for any lighting I have on and around my car.
After the DM34/DM35 stop, I may operate from other locations in grid DM35
and/or DM45 as I drive to Flagstaff for the night.

On Sunday (12 June) morning, I plan on going north of Flagstaff to operate
from the Sunset Crater Volcano and Wupatki National Monuments north of
Flagstaff near US-89. Both monuments are in grid DM45, and are located next
to each other. If time permits, I might try to stop at another NPOTA site
like the Walnut Canyon National Monument east of Flagstaff, or the
Montezuma Castle National Monument along I-17 between Phoenix and
Flagstaff.

At each NPOTA site, I would like to make contacts with at least 10
different stations to make my stop an "official" activation under ARRL's
NPOTA rules. I am planning to start Sunday morning at Sunset Crater Volcano
National Monument, hoping to work at least 10 different stations. Then I
hope to repeat that at Wupatki, before heading back to Flagstaff and
deciding on where I will go next.

I will use my @WD9EWK Twitter feed to send out updates on my travels and
operating Saturday evening and Sunday. If you don't use Twitter, you can
see my tweets - some of which will have photos - in a web browser at:

http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

My travels should also appear on APRS, using the call sign WD9EWK-9. There
is good APRS coverage throughout most of northern Arizona, including where
I plan on traveling. Among other web sites, my travels should be visible
at:

http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9

I will upload my QSOs to Logbook of the World after this weekend. If you
would like a QSL card for any QSOs made this weekend, please e-mail me with
the QSO details. No need to first send me a QSL card or SASE. If you are in
my log, I will gladly send you a QSL card.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From AJ9N at aol.com  Thu Jun  9 05:44:28 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 01:44:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-09 05:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <309985.6aaa84a.448a5c3c@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-09  05:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Briargreen Public School, Nepean, ON, Canada, telebridge  via VK4KHZ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The  scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Mon  2016-06-13 15:19:15 UTC 31 deg 
Watch for possible HamTV operation (***)  

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-09 05:30 UTC.  
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1062.
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1027.
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,  and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-07 07:00 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  46 on orbit 
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

Exp. 47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  9 16:08:51 2016
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:08:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV received from ISS "Inter-MAI-75"
References: <510478455.239783.1465488531846.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <510478455.239783.1465488531846.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

SSTV pictures received at 14:44 UTC ?09 June 2016 in Brazil:
http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/satelite/PY4ZBZ_Hist91.jpg

http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/satelite/PY4ZBZ_Hist92.jpg

73 de Roland PY4ZBZ


From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 18:17:58 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 11:17:58 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29
In-Reply-To: <B77C68DC-699E-4F85-A7B4-16381756662B@mac.com>
References: <B77C68DC-699E-4F85-A7B4-16381756662B@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHXx8h57b_xujYLqPd8EJCmLAe=J9wd0L17p6XW76D6DuDU8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Bob, I'd like to publicly thank you for our FO-29 contact on 6/8/2016!

My station was a FT-817nd and an Arrow antenna, half duplex. It was touch
and go for some minutes due to the mountains to my west, but I was finally
able to line up with you and make the QSO.

Now on to chase CT, ME, NH and NY!

Best wishes and good DX!!

73
Fernando, NP4JV
Arizona
On Jun 7, 2016 4:15 PM, "Robert Newcomb Jr." <wh6xm at mac.com> wrote:

> I have focused my attention to FO-29 where I can work the satellite when
> it is 2 degrees above my horizon.  On a good day I am able to make about
> three contacts on one pass.  I am trying to work the satellite on all
> available passes to me.  For anyone interested in making contact, I am
> available. Be patient and keep trying as conditions are always changing.
>
> 73's
> Bob WH6XM
>
>
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From avdeur at home.nl  Thu Jun  9 19:52:42 2016
From: avdeur at home.nl (Albert van Deursen)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 21:52:42 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question wrt Arduino and Satellite tracking
In-Reply-To: <mailman.284.1464935753.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.284.1464935753.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001d01d1c288$7c376140$74a623c0$@nl>

Hi, Just a quick question on Arduino and Satellite tracking. Was looking for
an easy setup to demonstrate Amateur Satellite tracking using HRD
(EasycommII for driving the rotator) ) via an Arduino Board for our HAM Club
I came across an interesting program written by K9VUG
(https://sites.google.com/site/k6vugdiary/home/satellite-tracking-system)
and demonstrated on YouTube  https://youtu.be/00SW1ExS2es. Unable to contact
the author or other kind of feedback from the net  I was wondering if any of
you out there  ever tried this setup. Any advice would be welcomed. 73
Albert PD0OXW


From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 20:49:16 2016
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:49:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question wrt Arduino and Satellite tracking
In-Reply-To: <001d01d1c288$7c376140$74a623c0$@nl>
References: <mailman.284.1464935753.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<001d01d1c288$7c376140$74a623c0$@nl>
Message-ID: <CAJUhCTNUzv_9om4VAVN1hb=Wsw4_FUDUx6DGne76RU7yXNq6Tw@mail.gmail.com>

What motors and sensors do you have? Either the hardware supports the
software or vice versa.

K3NG's rotator code, a Mega2560, positioning sensors and either PST
rotator OR satpc32 will work to drive the arduino (to control motors
and sensors).

HRD's satellite tracking never worked for me. YMMV.

Prefer the GS-232B protocol as it seems to the best (most widely) supported.

Have built several. Mostly testing various mechanical parts. Current
portable tripod for stateside is a resurrected G-5400 (for motors and
sensors.) The K3NG code/arduino combination will handily replace the
LVB tracker for about $30.

This is a very deep hole to explore. Still learning every day.

Norm n3ykf

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Albert van Deursen <avdeur at home.nl> wrote:
> Hi, Just a quick question on Arduino and Satellite tracking. Was looking for
> an easy setup to demonstrate Amateur Satellite tracking using HRD
> (EasycommII for driving the rotator) ) via an Arduino Board for our HAM Club
> I came across an interesting program written by K9VUG
> (https://sites.google.com/site/k6vugdiary/home/satellite-tracking-system)
> and demonstrated on YouTube  https://youtu.be/00SW1ExS2es. Unable to contact
> the author or other kind of feedback from the net  I was wondering if any of
> you out there  ever tried this setup. Any advice would be welcomed. 73
> Albert PD0OXW
>
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From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Jun  9 21:19:53 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:19:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
Message-ID: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>

Did anybody hear any packet action on the last ISS pass (about 2109 UTC
here)? I heard nothing and always wonder if it's me or them. 

Steve AI9IN

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun  9 21:24:52 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:24:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
In-Reply-To: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
References: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <356af8449e45a35175412b65d646f062@mail.gmail.com>

I heard real strong SSTV over eastcoast of usa

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To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?

Did anybody hear any packet action on the last ISS pass (about 2109 UTC
here)? I heard nothing and always wonder if it's me or them.

Steve AI9IN
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 21:27:01 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:27:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
In-Reply-To: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
References: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMRH_CcHQ_A4pEwPwHqTxjt2HhXpG6+pX0J+2PbgPsLYw@mail.gmail.com>

They've been doing SSTV but it stopped earlier and on that last pass I
heard Tim Kopra on 145.800 calling W4HNI and one other station without
success. No idea what's going on, but that explains why you didn't hear
packet.

KG4AKV
On Jun 9, 2016 5:20 PM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> Did anybody hear any packet action on the last ISS pass (about 2109 UTC
> here)? I heard nothing and always wonder if it's me or them.
>
> Steve AI9IN
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From k9jkm at comcast.net  Thu Jun  9 21:27:14 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:27:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
In-Reply-To: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
References: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <004901d1c295$b145c3b0$13d14b10$@net>

Hi Steve,

NA1SS was on 145.800 FM calling W4HNI or someone like that (was also
listening to the webcast of the Delta-4 Heavy via SpaceFlightNow.com). I was
monitoring for the MAI SSTV but none on this last pass.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org


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> Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
> 
> Did anybody hear any packet action on the last ISS pass (about 2109 UTC
> here)? I heard nothing and always wonder if it's me or them.
> 
> Steve AI9IN
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 21:32:43 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:32:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
In-Reply-To: <004901d1c295$b145c3b0$13d14b10$@net>
References: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
	<004901d1c295$b145c3b0$13d14b10$@net>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOZ+JGuqMWL58hN=FKpF=LKhe6Ax7bv=wyS5omAjCkd7DA@mail.gmail.com>

Caught me off-guard to hear voice when I was expecting SSTV.  First time
I've ever actually heard anyone from up there on voice.  Here's the audio:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pu0jrgza2z5qgio/2016-06-09-na1ss.mp3?dl=0

-Scott,  K4KDR

============================

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:27 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> NA1SS was on 145.800 FM calling W4HNI or someone like that (was also
> listening to the webcast of the Delta-4 Heavy via SpaceFlightNow.com). I
> was
> monitoring for the MAI SSTV but none on this last pass.
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
> > skristof at etczone.com
> > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 4:20 PM
> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
> >
> > Did anybody hear any packet action on the last ISS pass (about 2109 UTC
> > here)? I heard nothing and always wonder if it's me or them.
> >
> > Steve AI9IN

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 22:04:12 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 18:04:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnOZ+JGuqMWL58hN=FKpF=LKhe6Ax7bv=wyS5omAjCkd7DA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
	<004901d1c295$b145c3b0$13d14b10$@net>
	<CAJCSnOZ+JGuqMWL58hN=FKpF=LKhe6Ax7bv=wyS5omAjCkd7DA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKN4tGNr5hM9s==tVCimt6gc8fteVMTZHP=wz6wJPTfAXw@mail.gmail.com>

Here's my recording of it.

Audio of Astronaut Tim Kopra Unsuccesfully Calling W4HNI in Kentucky and
WZ9I in Wisconsin During ISS SSTV Event

https://soundcloud.com/spacecomms/astronaut-tim-kopra-na1ss

This from today's 21:09 UTC pass.

KG4AKV
On Jun 9, 2016 5:32 PM, "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Caught me off-guard to hear voice when I was expecting SSTV.  First time
> I've ever actually heard anyone from up there on voice.  Here's the audio:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pu0jrgza2z5qgio/2016-06-09-na1ss.mp3?dl=0
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
>
> ============================
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:27 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > NA1SS was on 145.800 FM calling W4HNI or someone like that (was also
> > listening to the webcast of the Delta-4 Heavy via SpaceFlightNow.com). I
> > was
> > monitoring for the MAI SSTV but none on this last pass.
> >
> > --
> > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> > k9jkm at amsat.org
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
> > > skristof at etczone.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 4:20 PM
> > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
> > >
> > > Did anybody hear any packet action on the last ISS pass (about 2109 UTC
> > > here)? I heard nothing and always wonder if it's me or them.
> > >
> > > Steve AI9IN
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From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Jun  9 22:08:21 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 18:08:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKN4tGNr5hM9s==tVCimt6gc8fteVMTZHP=wz6wJPTfAXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
	<004901d1c295$b145c3b0$13d14b10$@net>
	<CAJCSnOZ+JGuqMWL58hN=FKpF=LKhe6Ax7bv=wyS5omAjCkd7DA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKN4tGNr5hM9s==tVCimt6gc8fteVMTZHP=wz6wJPTfAXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cd6fd6c1467590865f149c42914352c2@etczone.com>

Was this SSTV announced ahead of time? 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-06-09 18:04, John Brier wrote:

> Here's my recording of it.
> 
> Audio of Astronaut Tim Kopra Unsuccesfully Calling W4HNI in Kentucky and
> WZ9I in Wisconsin During ISS SSTV Event
> 
> https://soundcloud.com/spacecomms/astronaut-tim-kopra-na1ss
> 
> This from today's 21:09 UTC pass.
> 
> KG4AKV
> On Jun 9, 2016 5:32 PM, "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Caught me off-guard to hear voice when I was expecting SSTV.  First time
> I've ever actually heard anyone from up there on voice.  Here's the audio:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pu0jrgza2z5qgio/2016-06-09-na1ss.mp3?dl=0
> 
> -Scott,  K4KDR
> 
> ============================
> 
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:27 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> NA1SS was on 145.800 FM calling W4HNI or someone like that (was also
> listening to the webcast of the Delta-4 Heavy via SpaceFlightNow.com). I
> was
> monitoring for the MAI SSTV but none on this last pass.
> 
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
> skristof at etczone.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 4:20 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
> 
> Did anybody hear any packet action on the last ISS pass (about 2109 UTC
> here)? I heard nothing and always wonder if it's me or them.
> 
> Steve AI9IN
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From uwaveguy at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 22:36:05 2016
From: uwaveguy at gmail.com (Bob Freeman)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 18:36:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question wrt Arduino and Satellite tracking
Message-ID: <CAHcBMeRRWAShVc=4dRTE-6zhPBdcNxCzSaH24Roh+K2zabNX1w@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Norm's statement:
"This is a very deep hole to explore. Still learning every day."
But then again, this is part of why we do this.

Starting with some code from Tom, W9KE, my better half and I generated
Arduino code to drive a stepper system using the GS-232 protocol.  Seems to
work with SatPC32 and GPredict okay; I'll be interested in hearing if it
works with HRD, or not.  If you want to give it a try, look here:
http://ki4sbl.dodropin.org/CNCTRK .

Have fun - and keep digging!

73
Bob
KI4SBL

From avdeur at home.nl  Thu Jun  9 23:17:04 2016
From: avdeur at home.nl (Albert van Deursen)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 01:17:04 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 186
In-Reply-To: <mailman.829.1465510108.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.829.1465510108.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000d01d1c2a5$08ec47b0$1ac4d710$@nl>

Hi Norm,
Actual motors (servo's) are small hobby (as for demo purposes only). (Text
says any servo should work) Set-up doesn't mention sensors. Have idd seen
the K3NG code and set-up but seemed more complicated.
Bit in a time squeeze as well (demo is next week..) Will further explore
K3NG especially if my quest ends in a deep hole HI. Tx so far. 73  Albert
PD0OXW




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From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 10 00:36:08 2016
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 20:36:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question wrt Arduino and Satellite tracking
In-Reply-To: <001d01d1c288$7c376140$74a623c0$@nl>
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Albert,
That is my YouTube video you listed there. 
In my video, I walk the viewer through the steps to make HRD control the Arduino. It works great. 
Everything I have is listed in the comments section of the video. 

Michael/KC4ZVA


On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Albert van Deursen <avdeur at home.nl> wrote:

Hi, Just a quick question on Arduino and Satellite tracking. Was looking for
an easy setup to demonstrate Amateur Satellite tracking using HRD
(EasycommII for driving the rotator) ) via an Arduino Board for our HAM Club
I came across an interesting program written by K9VUG
(https://sites.google.com/site/k6vugdiary/home/satellite-tracking-system)
and demonstrated on YouTube  https://youtu.be/00SW1ExS2es. Unable to contact
the author or other kind of feedback from the net  I was wondering if any of
you out there  ever tried this setup. Any advice would be welcomed. 73
Albert PD0OXW

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From art.ballentine at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 06:28:58 2016
From: art.ballentine at gmail.com (Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 06:28:58 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question wrt Arduino and Satellite tracking
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References: <mailman.284.1464935753.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
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Please let me know how you make out.
I'm in the same spot with a Yaesu G5400B.
I'm trying the K3NG route and using M0UPU's board (the EAGLE CAD files are
on his site and I just submitted them to OSH Park for creation)
Everyone here has been really helpful and I'm sure you'll be able to come
up with a solution.

73
Frank
kb1qzh

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:36 PM Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Albert,
> That is my YouTube video you listed there.
> In my video, I walk the viewer through the steps to make HRD control the
> Arduino. It works great.
> Everything I have is listed in the comments section of the video.
>
> Michael/KC4ZVA
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Albert van Deursen <avdeur at home.nl> wrote:
>
> Hi, Just a quick question on Arduino and Satellite tracking. Was looking
> for
> an easy setup to demonstrate Amateur Satellite tracking using HRD
> (EasycommII for driving the rotator) ) via an Arduino Board for our HAM
> Club
> I came across an interesting program written by K9VUG
> (https://sites.google.com/site/k6vugdiary/home/satellite-tracking-system)
> and demonstrated on YouTube  https://youtu.be/00SW1ExS2es. Unable to
> contact
> the author or other kind of feedback from the net  I was wondering if any
> of
> you out there  ever tried this setup. Any advice would be welcomed. 73
> Albert PD0OXW
>
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun 10 11:15:07 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:15:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS?
In-Reply-To: <cd6fd6c1467590865f149c42914352c2@etczone.com>
References: <8bfeb353baae1c068bd9aa1361da8f8a@etczone.com>
	<004901d1c295$b145c3b0$13d14b10$@net>
	<CAJCSnOZ+JGuqMWL58hN=FKpF=LKhe6Ax7bv=wyS5omAjCkd7DA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKN4tGNr5hM9s==tVCimt6gc8fteVMTZHP=wz6wJPTfAXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<cd6fd6c1467590865f149c42914352c2@etczone.com>
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> Was this SSTV announced ahead of time?
They usually are announced in advance you'll probably find a mention of the MAI-75 experiment taking place in the Russian language section of the Roscosmos site. 

The Twitter feed of @R4UAB is also worth following for news of Russian ISS amateur activity.
73 Trevor M5AKA




 

    On Thursday, 9 June 2016, 23:08, "skristof at etczone.com" <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
 

 Was this SSTV announced ahead of time? 

Steve AI9IN



   

From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in  Fri Jun 10 17:50:20 2016
From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:50:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV on 145.800- 17:40 UTC
References: <1682557056.778180.1465581020403.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1682557056.778180.1465581020403.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hearing SSTV transmission on 145.800 at 17.40 UTC. I was late to get the PC to boot and run MMSSTV.?73
Nitin [VU3TYG]

From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 10 19:24:14 2016
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 19:24:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV from ISS
References: <479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

SSTV pictures from ISS 10 june 2016, 13:49 and 15:28 UTC:
http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/satelite/PY4ZBZ_Hist93.jpg

http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/satelite/PY4ZBZ_Hist95.jpg

73 de Roland PY4ZBZ

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 19:30:27 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:30:27 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV from ISS
In-Reply-To: <479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKNQMtna5m+UQTaRrD2nBAAxamiZYiHQFdwZV0dG-usq9A@mail.gmail.com>

I got  a nice one at 1842 UTC. It was scheduled to shut off at 1900 UTC. I
hope they forget. ;-)

KG4AKV

@johnbrier on Twitter for images
On Jun 10, 2016 3:25 PM, "Roland Zurmely via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> SSTV pictures from ISS 10 june 2016, 13:49 and 15:28 UTC:
> http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/satelite/PY4ZBZ_Hist93.jpg
>
> http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/satelite/PY4ZBZ_Hist95.jpg
>
> 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ
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From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl  Fri Jun 10 19:35:35 2016
From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:35:35 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV from ISS
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKNQMtna5m+UQTaRrD2nBAAxamiZYiHQFdwZV0dG-usq9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALn0fKNQMtna5m+UQTaRrD2nBAAxamiZYiHQFdwZV0dG-usq9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160610193535.GA23724@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>

Quoting John Brier who wrote on Fri 2016-06-10 at 15:30:

> I got  a nice one at 1842 UTC. It was scheduled to shut off at 1900 UTC. I
> hope they forget. ;-)

I received an image which started right after 1900 UTC...

https://twitter.com/khoos/status/741351456477941760

                                            Koos PE4KH

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                                             IPv6: Think ::/0, act ::1.
http://idefix.net/              Are you ready to start supporting IPv6?

From jim at milnet.uk.net  Fri Jun 10 19:40:14 2016
From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:40:14 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube mode change
Message-ID: <9D4AA48ACAE84849A1DABA5912C00749@jimPC2>

Hi Folks,

  I have just set AO-73/FUNcube into permanent transponder mode. Plan, as 
usual, is to switch it back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC.

  Enjoy the transponder and have a FUN weekend.

73s Jim G3WGM

From mikesprenger at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 19:42:55 2016
From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:42:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question wrt Arduino and Satellite tracking
In-Reply-To: <CABAKp2GzMEULh26GWeRq_LErmWNdD3wGqCsJ3eSJprEsWxA4sg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.284.1464935753.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<001d01d1c288$7c376140$74a623c0$@nl>
	<FC16FF26-B843-4096-8456-139261A4AA57@yahoo.com>
	<CABAKp2GzMEULh26GWeRq_LErmWNdD3wGqCsJ3eSJprEsWxA4sg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <97150FBB-4ED2-433B-A841-070DC3C7FBEB@gmail.com>

 I have built a 4 arduinos each with the K3ng code running G5400 rotors.

Add 4 transistors and a few resistors and life is good. 

2 line LCD is nice but can be omitted by querying the com port to calibrate.  

They work Great !

Thanks,
Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2016, at 2:28 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr <art.ballentine at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Please let me know how you make out.
> I'm in the same spot with a Yaesu G5400B.
> I'm trying the K3NG route and using M0UPU's board (the EAGLE CAD files are
> on his site and I just submitted them to OSH Park for creation)
> Everyone here has been really helpful and I'm sure you'll be able to come
> up with a solution.
> 
> 73
> Frank
> kb1qzh
> 
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:36 PM Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Albert,
>> That is my YouTube video you listed there.
>> In my video, I walk the viewer through the steps to make HRD control the
>> Arduino. It works great.
>> Everything I have is listed in the comments section of the video.
>> 
>> Michael/KC4ZVA
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Albert van Deursen <avdeur at home.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Just a quick question on Arduino and Satellite tracking. Was looking
>> for
>> an easy setup to demonstrate Amateur Satellite tracking using HRD
>> (EasycommII for driving the rotator) ) via an Arduino Board for our HAM
>> Club
>> I came across an interesting program written by K9VUG
>> (https://sites.google.com/site/k6vugdiary/home/satellite-tracking-system)
>> and demonstrated on YouTube  https://youtu.be/00SW1ExS2es. Unable to
>> contact
>> the author or other kind of feedback from the net  I was wondering if any
>> of
>> you out there  ever tried this setup. Any advice would be welcomed. 73
>> Albert PD0OXW
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From peter at m3php.com  Fri Jun 10 19:51:37 2016
From: peter at m3php.com (Peter Goodhall)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:51:37 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube mode change
In-Reply-To: <9D4AA48ACAE84849A1DABA5912C00749@jimPC2>
References: <9D4AA48ACAE84849A1DABA5912C00749@jimPC2>
Message-ID: <CAFvUaiofjZ7ccph2hD9x8jhjtoTY3W+DW=ikFC4kF1v7wMHS-w@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jim! just worked Eric PA3N after you switched it to transponder mode.

73,

Peter, 2E0SQL

On 10 June 2016 at 20:40, Jim Heck <jim at milnet.uk.net> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
>  I have just set AO-73/FUNcube into permanent transponder mode. Plan, as
> usual, is to switch it back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC.
>
>  Enjoy the transponder and have a FUN weekend.
>
> 73s Jim G3WGM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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-- 
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From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 10 20:29:40 2016
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:29:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV from ISS
In-Reply-To: <20160610193535.GA23724@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>
References: <479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALn0fKNQMtna5m+UQTaRrD2nBAAxamiZYiHQFdwZV0dG-usq9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<20160610193535.GA23724@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <602971777.899292.1465590580185.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

No SSTV heard on the 2018Z pass in FM29. Only heard packet.
Rob KA2CZU
 

    On Friday, June 10, 2016 3:36 PM, Koos van den Hout <koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl> wrote:
 

 Quoting John Brier who wrote on Fri 2016-06-10 at 15:30:

> I got? a nice one at 1842 UTC. It was scheduled to shut off at 1900 UTC. I
> hope they forget. ;-)

I received an image which started right after 1900 UTC...

https://twitter.com/khoos/status/741351456477941760

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Koos PE4KH

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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 20:33:13 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:33:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV from ISS
In-Reply-To: <602971777.899292.1465590580185.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<479853439.826559.1465586654593.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALn0fKNQMtna5m+UQTaRrD2nBAAxamiZYiHQFdwZV0dG-usq9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<20160610193535.GA23724@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>
	<602971777.899292.1465590580185.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOZ89yBLERdDAW2cAe2JsmShZz+WJTZ8qFRf3pjqcTdJA@mail.gmail.com>

Same here in FM05 with 70 degree pass. Great event. Thanks!

KG4AKV
On Jun 10, 2016 4:29 PM, "Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> No SSTV heard on the 2018Z pass in FM29. Only heard packet.
> Rob KA2CZU
>
>
>     On Friday, June 10, 2016 3:36 PM, Koos van den Hout <
> koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>
>  Quoting John Brier who wrote on Fri 2016-06-10 at 15:30:
>
> > I got  a nice one at 1842 UTC. It was scheduled to shut off at 1900 UTC.
> I
> > hope they forget. ;-)
>
> I received an image which started right after 1900 UTC...
>
> https://twitter.com/khoos/status/741351456477941760
>
>                                             Koos PE4KH
>
> --
> Koos van den Hout                  PGP keyid 0xF0D7C263 via keyservers
>                                             IPv6: Think ::/0, act ::1.
> http://idefix.net/             Are you ready to start supporting IPv6?
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jun 10 22:36:17 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:36:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Some earl;y Photos of PCSAT (NO44)
Message-ID: <c8173f973e6eae32c5fe7be10c54adeb@mail.gmail.com>

Finally after 15 years, I found some old photos of PCSAT and added them to
the web page:

http://aprs.org/pcsat.html



KH6WZ asked about them so once I found them, there they are in the second
paragraph.



Amazing they are still on my current PC drive after 15 years. (though I had
never found them before)?



In the best-closeup one, you can see the difference between the space
panels on the top and the plastic coated panels around the sides? hence the
continuing operation only when the sun is shining on the best panels on
top.  (the other end is the NORTH seeking pole).



Bob, WB4APR

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Sat Jun 11 03:39:00 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:39:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Briargreen Public School,
	Nepean, ON, Canada
Message-ID: <0AEBB8D2394547FD99F591EFDD2A8FA2@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Briargreen Public School, Nepean, ON, Canada

on 13 June. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 15:19 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK4KHZ. The contact should be audible over portions of Australia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

Briargreen is an amazing K-6 open-concept school nestled in a suburban community, of west Ottawa in Ontario, Canada. It is a caring community of diverse students, teachers and parents, who love to share both our in-class and out-of-class experiences with each other. Some of our noteworthy special events include our Kindergarten Chinese New Year parade, Terry Fox Run activities and junior community games days. Our learning community has some of the most wonderful students in the world!

https://briargreenps.ocdsb.ca/Pages/home.aspx

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

 

1.   What types of things do you miss when you've been on the ISS for a long 

     time? 

2.   The rocket launch stage is one of the most dangerous moments. What did 

     you think about at that period? Are you scared?

3.   What was the hardest part of your training experience that you had to go 

     through before you went to space? 

4.   How do you handle being away from your family and friends for such a 

     long time?

5.   When you were a little kid, did you dream of being an astronaut, or did 

     you decide when you were older?

6.   How does it feel to be without gravity in space? 

7.   Do you feel like your sleep is affected in space?  Are you more tired or 

     awake while in space?

8.   We'd like to know what happens if you are sick or get injured while in 

     space or in a spaceship?

9.   What is it like being in a micro-gravity environment and then coming 

     back to earth?

10.   What do you do in your spare time? 

11.   How much electricity does the space station use?

12.   How do you communicate and how often do you communicate with your 

      family down on earth?

13.   How many hours do you have out of the station in outer space with your 

      suit on? Is there an overall time limit for being out in space?

14.   What was the most dangerous situation you have ever experienced in the 

      ISS?

15.   What made you want to go to the space station and stay in space for 6 

      months at a time instead of a shorter mission?

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

   1.  TBD

 

 

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From avdeur at home.nl  Fri Jun 10 22:48:47 2016
From: avdeur at home.nl (Albert van Deursen)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 00:48:47 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question wrt Arduino and Satellite tracking
In-Reply-To: <97150FBB-4ED2-433B-A841-070DC3C7FBEB@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.284.1464935753.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<001d01d1c288$7c376140$74a623c0$@nl>
	<FC16FF26-B843-4096-8456-139261A4AA57@yahoo.com>
	<CABAKp2GzMEULh26GWeRq_LErmWNdD3wGqCsJ3eSJprEsWxA4sg@mail.gmail.com>
	<97150FBB-4ED2-433B-A841-070DC3C7FBEB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <315e0242-975a-4d77-9b82-4c334b9f904e.maildroid@localhost>

Hi Mike, yes will definitely have a look at the K3NG software as well. Great feedback from all of you. Thanks yr advice. Keeping you posted. 73 Albert PD0OXW 

Sent from my android device.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger at gmail.com>
To: "Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr" <art.ballentine at gmail.com>
Cc: Mvivona <Mvivona at yahoo.com>, Albert van Deursen <avdeur at home.nl>, amsat-bb at amsat.org
Sent: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:42
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question wrt Arduino and Satellite tracking

 I have built a 4 arduinos each with the K3ng code running G5400 rotors.

Add 4 transistors and a few resistors and life is good. 

2 line LCD is nice but can be omitted by querying the com port to calibrate.  

They work Great !

Thanks,
Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2016, at 2:28 AM, Franklyn A. Ballentine, Jr <art.ballentine at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Please let me know how you make out.
> I'm in the same spot with a Yaesu G5400B.
> I'm trying the K3NG route and using M0UPU's board (the EAGLE CAD files are
> on his site and I just submitted them to OSH Park for creation)
> Everyone here has been really helpful and I'm sure you'll be able to come
> up with a solution.
> 
> 73
> Frank
> kb1qzh
> 
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:36 PM Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Albert,
>> That is my YouTube video you listed there.
>> In my video, I walk the viewer through the steps to make HRD control the
>> Arduino. It works great.
>> Everything I have is listed in the comments section of the video.
>> 
>> Michael/KC4ZVA
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Albert van Deursen <avdeur at home.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Just a quick question on Arduino and Satellite tracking. Was looking
>> for
>> an easy setup to demonstrate Amateur Satellite tracking using HRD
>> (EasycommII for driving the rotator) ) via an Arduino Board for our HAM
>> Club
>> I came across an interesting program written by K9VUG
>> (https://sites.google.com/site/k6vugdiary/home/satellite-tracking-system)
>> and demonstrated on YouTube  https://youtu.be/00SW1ExS2es. Unable to
>> contact
>> the author or other kind of feedback from the net  I was wondering if any
>> of
>> you out there  ever tried this setup. Any advice would be welcomed. 73
>> Albert PD0OXW
>> 
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From w5pfg at amsat.org  Sat Jun 11 14:27:11 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:27:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Today's op from Ham-com: June 11, 2016
Message-ID: <575C1FBF.7010309@amsat.org>

Today we plan to operate the following passes as demonstrations at 
Ham-Com 2016:*

AO-73 at 15:28 UTC
FO-29 at 16:51 UTC
AO-85 at 17:19 UTC
* Potentially more passes but these are scheduled with our team.

Our grid is EM12 in Irving, Texas.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From edc2491 at cox.net  Sat Jun 11 14:43:46 2016
From: edc2491 at cox.net (Ed Cunningham)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:43:46 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] AZ EL Rotator
Message-ID: <001801d1c3ef$a8e735e0$fab5a1a0$@cox.net>

Hi All,

 

Being out in the summer sun in Phoenix AZ is not fun, I, like others, am
looking for an inexpensive way to set up an AZ EL rotator.  Being retired I
have time to work on it, but being retired, the funds are limited.  I have
found several articles using servos, cnc motors, U110 rotators etc.  Has
anyone used successfully used a security rotator like a Pelco Pan Tilt head?
I found one article on it and am looking for more information.  It seems
like a simple way to go if it can be done. Any information for or against
would be appreciated. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ed, N7EC

edc2491 at cox.net

 


From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Sat Jun 11 15:17:51 2016
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 17:17:51 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] The meaning of "Es'hail"
Message-ID: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>


Recently we see many postings about the new satellite called "Es'hail 2".
Maybe you also wondered what the meaning is of "Es'hail". I asked two
'friendly Arabic speaking colleagues' to fill me in.

It appears the satellite is named after a star, that we know as Canopus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canopus
In Arabic, Canopus is Sohail. But in the section 'Middle East' on the Wiki
page you see that there are many variants for this name, including Sohayl,
Soheil, Suhayl, Suheyl, etc.

Actually the name of our satellite is 'The Canopus', or in Arabic 'El 
Sohail'.
In Arabic they tend to merge the two words, so it would become 'ElSohail'.
Since Arabs find it hard to pronounce the combination of l and s, they drop
the l. So it becomes 'ESohail'. An apostrophe is added to emphasize the S:
'ES'ohail'. And since the o (or u) will be pronounced anyway, almost
'automatically', it may be dropped. So that is how we get 'ES'hail', or even
'Es'hail'.

As for the pronunciation of this satellite's name, probably 'eSohayl' is 
best,
with a short and soft e at the beginning.

So now at least we know what we are talking about   :-)

73,
Nico PA0DLO



From peter.guelzow at kourou.de  Sat Jun 11 16:56:23 2016
From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_G=FClzow?=)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 18:56:23 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] The meaning of "Es'hail"
In-Reply-To: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
References: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <16EE76DA-19DC-48BA-93B6-61B1DFFC3618@kourou.de>

Thanks Nico for the nice explanation,  well done! 

Yes,  the company Es'hailSat and there satellite fleet are named after Canopus.

Es'hail 2 will be launched in first quarter 2017.


73s Peter DB2OS 







Am 11. Juni 2016 17:17:51 MESZ, schrieb Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl>:
>
>Recently we see many postings about the new satellite called "Es'hail
>2".
>Maybe you also wondered what the meaning is of "Es'hail". I asked two
>'friendly Arabic speaking colleagues' to fill me in.
>
>It appears the satellite is named after a star, that we know as
>Canopus.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canopus
>In Arabic, Canopus is Sohail. But in the section 'Middle East' on the
>Wiki
>page you see that there are many variants for this name, including
>Sohayl,
>Soheil, Suhayl, Suheyl, etc.
>
>Actually the name of our satellite is 'The Canopus', or in Arabic 'El 
>Sohail'.
>In Arabic they tend to merge the two words, so it would become
>'ElSohail'.
>Since Arabs find it hard to pronounce the combination of l and s, they
>drop
>the l. So it becomes 'ESohail'. An apostrophe is added to emphasize the
>S:
>'ES'ohail'. And since the o (or u) will be pronounced anyway, almost
>'automatically', it may be dropped. So that is how we get 'ES'hail', or
>even
>'Es'hail'.
>
>As for the pronunciation of this satellite's name, probably 'eSohayl'
>is 
>best,
>with a short and soft e at the beginning.
>
>So now at least we know what we are talking about   :-)
>
>73,
>Nico PA0DLO
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
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>program!
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From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Sat Jun 11 17:17:15 2016
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:17:15 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Practice tracking ES'hail 2
Message-ID: <575C479B.6090708@xs4all.nl>


The new geostationary satellite ES'hail 2 will be placed over the
equator at 26 degrees East. Those who would like to practice
tracking that new geosat can do so by tracking its predecessor
ES'hail 1, which is in almost the same location over the equator
at 25.5 degrees East.

TLEs for ES'hail 1, also known as Eutelsat 25B, object 39233,
2013-044A, are available through the usual sources, i.e.
Space-Track.org, Celestrak, etc.

Any tracking program should do. It will give you a feeling for
what to expect and for the small variations of the satellite
position over the day. And from the distance to the satellite
you can calculate the delay times of the signals relayed by the
satellite.

73,
Nico PA0DLO



From pconver at gmail.com  Sat Jun 11 20:03:19 2016
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 17:03:19 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Practice tracking ES'hail 2
In-Reply-To: <575C479B.6090708@xs4all.nl>
References: <575C479B.6090708@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKkKY7A5MZb=3aSOcgT7UxZS2Rkwv+Ke6wMZ94RwCKVBjg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Nico for information on Es'Hail 2

Eutelsat 25B was added to http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm

Selecting ESHAI, allow see coverage, distances, AZ/EL, doppler, etc.

73, lu7abf, Pedro

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> The new geostationary satellite ES'hail 2 will be placed over the
> equator at 26 degrees East. Those who would like to practice
> tracking that new geosat can do so by tracking its predecessor
> ES'hail 1, which is in almost the same location over the equator
> at 25.5 degrees East.
>
> TLEs for ES'hail 1, also known as Eutelsat 25B, object 39233,
> 2013-044A, are available through the usual sources, i.e.
> Space-Track.org, Celestrak, etc.
>
> Any tracking program should do. It will give you a feeling for
> what to expect and for the small variations of the satellite
> position over the day. And from the distance to the satellite
> you can calculate the delay times of the signals relayed by the
> satellite.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Jun 12 00:51:08 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 00:51:08 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ DM34/35 line starting @ 0119 UTC tonight
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUePrjD8c9z=cQHFzBFnmi3PL5vT4mwLwzBQWYUfQyseGg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I am going to work at least two passes from the DM34/DM35 grid
boundary tonight:

XW-2F @ 0119 UTC
SO-50 @ 0200 UTC

Weather permitting, I may also work the 0340 UTC SO-50 pass before
heading to Flagstaff (DM45) for the night. Then the Sunset Crater
Volcano and Wupatki National Monuments north of Flagstaff in
the morning.

Thanks for the QSOs on AO-85, FO-29, and the ISS during the Prescott
Hamfest today! All QSOs are in Logbook of the World already. I
will write more about this in a couple of days.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK - south of Ash Fork, Arizona
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From ku4os at cfl.rr.com  Sun Jun 12 01:21:03 2016
From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 21:21:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-164 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <69e3e3c5-9bef-4ceb-a442-9673348262b5@cfl.rr.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-164

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* 2016 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nomination Deadline This Week
* ARRL Network Maintenance Set for Sunday, June 12
* 38 Years of Satellite Contacts Nets Satellite WAS for K8BL
* Special Event Station K1D to Operate Satellites on Field Day 2016
* K6R Expedition to Santa Rosa Island and CM93
* Download Planetary Society's LightSail-2 Morse Beacon as a Ringtone

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-164.01
ANS-164 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 164.01
  From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD.
June 12, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-164.01


2016 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nomination Deadline This Week

It's time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of
Directors election. Three director's terms expire this year: Tom
Clark, K3IO, JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM, and Lou McFadin, W5DID. In
addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for one year terms.

A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current
individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for
Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and
call, and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual
signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304
Kensington, MD 20895-2526.

In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which
is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by
electronic means. These include e-mail, Fax, or electronic image of a
petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to MARTHA at AMSAT.ORG
or Faxed to (301)822-4371.

No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June
15th at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional
written nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than
this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST
be received at the AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days
following the close of nominations on June 15th.

ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE
NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS.


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA Secretary, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, for the
above information]


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ARRL Network Maintenance Set for Sunday, June 12

The ARRL IT Department will conduct network maintenance on Sunday, June 12,
to improve reliability and security. The work will occur between 1100 UTC
and 2300 UTC.

During this period some or all systems may be temporarily unavailable,
including the website. Among services that will be affected are the ARRL
Store, the National Parks on the Air (NPOTA) page, Logbook of The World
(LoTW), the DXCC page, and the ARRL VEC page. E-mail also will be offline,
but all messages will be queued for later delivery. Telephone service to
ARRL Headquarters also may be affected.

ARRL apologizes for any inconvenience.

[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information]


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38 Years of Satellite Contacts Nets Satellite WAS for K8BL

Congratulations are in order to Bob Liddy, K8BL, for achieving Worked
All States via satellite and earning WAS Satellite Award #341. The con-
tacts for his award spanned 38 years. Bob's oldest satellite QSL card
was from W7LSV in Oregon, 10/13/78 for an Oscar 8 Mode A CW contact.
Bob's last state contacted was North Dakota W0N for a contact with Wyatt,
AC0RA, via SO50 FM on 11/13/15.

An AMSAT member since 1979, Bob wrote via the amsat-bb, "Earlier this
year, I was going through my paper QSL's getting ready to make some
submissions for various ARRL Awards at the Dayton Hamvention. Sorting
through the cards, I made a stack of Satellite QSL's. I started to notice
that I had quite a few States confirmed and wondered if I was finally
close to WAS even though I wasn't really int he hunt very seriously. Would
you believe I had them ALL worked but was only missing a QSL from Vermont?!!

Happily, it was Nick, KB1RVT who I KNEW was always good for a confirmation
which he quickly returned confirming our contact via SO-50 FM on 1/4/16.
50 Paper QSL's, 38 Years!!  WHEW!! Thanks to all who helped."

[ANS thanks -and, congratulates - Bob Liddy, K8BL for the above information]


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Special Event Station K1D to Operate Satellites on Field Day 2016

Field Day is always the fourth full weekend of June, beginning at 1800 UTC
Saturday and running through 2059 UTC Sunday. Field Day 2016 is June 25-26.

In an effort to encourage more kids and their families to get involved in
the hobby, the kids at Ham Radio (dot) World are working to put an all-kids
Special Event ARRL Field Day station on the air in 2016. This station will
have the special event call sign of K1D and it will be set-up, operated, and
put away by kids who are ham radio operators.  Kids of all ages and their
parents (both licensed hams and non-hams alike) are encouraged to come out
and participate in this exciting event.  New hams and even non-hams can
experience the excitement of talking to people around the world with the
Get On the Air (GOTA) station, which will have the callsign K4G. Both 
stations
will operate from grid EL99IA in Deland, Florida, USA.

The kids will be on the HF bands and on the Amateur Radio satellites.  
K1D will
be joined by AMSAT?s Vice-President Operations, Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, who
will be a kid-for-a-day to help get the kids on the linear satellites.  Look
for them and give them a shout!

The K1D Special Event Field Day station will be built by the kids prior to
the Field Day activities.  The kids have built a solar power solution?from
scratch?to use to power their K1D Special Event Field Day station.  Kyocera
Solar and West Mountain Radio have graciously donated parts to this solar
power supply ? THANK YOU!  They also plan on using a Genasun MPPT Charge
Controller to manage charging the battery.  Emmett of Radiowavz.com is
providing a Sentinel Expedition Hex Beam for K1D. Finally, the kids have
built their own W7FG True Ladder Line antenna with parts provided by
TrueLadderLine.com and are building additional antennas to use for Field
Day.  Keep watching Ham Radio (dot) World for videos of the kids as they
build their Special Event Station.

Join WX4TVJ (Zechariah), who was licensed at 12 years old,
AE4FH (Faith Hannah), who was licensed at 10 years old, KM4IPF (Hope),
who was licensed at 8 years old, & 7 year old Grace (KM4TXT)for Field Day
2016. Listen for them on the air and give them a break by making K1D one
of your 2016 Field Day contacts.

For helping to encourage youth in amateur radio, stations who work K1D
and/or K4G during the 2016 ARRL Field Day will be eligible for a special
K1D/K4G Commemorative QSL card.

More information at
http://hamradio.world/


[ANS thanks James, WX4TV for the above information]


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K6R Expedition to Santa Rosa Island and CM93

The K6R Satellite Expedition to Santa Rosa Island and CM93 is a go for 
September
16th-18th, 2016. Permissions have been secured and arrangements made to 
get to
the island, spend 2 nights camping, and operate on a number of Satellite 
passes
? as well as some terrestrial and HF too.

Updates will be on the K6R QRZ.com page at 
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/K6R and
over the coming months FAQs, pictures, and more information will be added.

[ANS thanks Wyatt, AC0RA & Dave, KG5CCI, for the above information]


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Download Planetary Society's LightSail-2 Morse Beacon as a Ringtone

On the Planetary Society's Blog Jason Davis wrote about reception of the 
morse
code beacon from the upcoming LightSail-2 mission ... "Many off-the-shelf
CubeSat software packages also have an option to transmit Morse code 
beacons,
and for the LightSail 2 mission, we're activating this feature. Every 45
seconds, the spacecraft will transmit "L-S-2," and radio operators tuned 
in to
the spacecraft's 437.325 megahertz frequency should be able to hear it."

The Blog provides details of how to make the LightSail-2 morse code 
beacon into
a ringtone on your phone:

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2016/20160609-lightsail-2-morse-
code.html

[ANS thanks the Planetary Society for the above information and wishes them
success with their LightSail-2 mission]


/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KU4OS
ku4os at amsat dot org



From lists at rudn.com  Sat Jun 11 19:14:48 2016
From: lists at rudn.com (Jeff Breitner)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 15:14:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT
In-Reply-To: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
References: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>


I have been troubleshooting CAT control problems of my 847 ahead of 
Field Day, and the oddest situation has come to light and wondered if 
anyone has seen this situation.

I used to run Gpredict on my Mac, and on a Linux netbook with the 847, 
and both worked fine.  In testing the setup in portable operation over 
Memorial Day weekend (on one of the XA birds), CAT control stopped 
working with the Netbook.  Flatly refused to work.  Before I started 
transmitting, however it had been running all day prior to moving to the 
portable setup.

I moved to the Mac, and it too wasn't working.  Puzzled, I tried a reset 
of the CPU in the radio.  Nothing changed.  Tried a different Prolific 
and FTDI USB adapter.  Nothing.

The shack computer, a desktop, works fine both Linux and Ham Radio 
Deluxe under Windows 10, with all three USB adapters.  I also dragged 
out an ancient Sony laptop with a real RS-232 port.  That works.    I 
made some test scripts on the desktop Linux machine to initiate CAT 
commands, they worked at all possible port speeds.  Tried the scripts on 
the netbook and Mac, they do not work.  Hamlib reports a communication 
error.

I also have a 5 year old i5 Windows machine, never ran HRD and that does 
not work either.

I am not sure if the radio is on its way out, or if there is just some 
strange incompatibility between the USB serial adapters, but the desktop 
box works very reliably where the others do not.  And the last thing I 
want to do is drag that beast out to FD.

Any input welcome.

From jim at beeson.cc  Sun Jun 12 04:53:55 2016
From: jim at beeson.cc (jim at beeson.cc)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 00:53:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT BB
Message-ID: <6beeac86fc77363dff37d8bc253e264e.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>




I have been off AMSAT BB a while. How do I get back on?? Also is anyone using the Nova for Windows software for satellite tracking?
thanks
Jim
WA5QAP

From jeff_griffin at comcast.net  Sun Jun 12 13:31:41 2016
From: jeff_griffin at comcast.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:31:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT
In-Reply-To: <44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>
References: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
	<44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>
Message-ID: <062801d1c4ae$c1c26070$45472150$@net>

I had this same problem with an 847 that I had loaned out to another ham.
This person somehow pushed in one of the pins in the RS-232 DB9 connector
just enough that it would sometime's work. I was taking the 847 apart to
prepare to replace the 232 chip when I noticed the pushed in pin. I simply
pushed the pin back out and problem went away. I hope your problem
resolution is as simple...

73 Jeff kb2m


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
Breitner
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 3:15 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT


I have been troubleshooting CAT control problems of my 847 ahead of Field
Day, and the oddest situation has come to light and wondered if anyone has
seen this situation.

I used to run Gpredict on my Mac, and on a Linux netbook with the 847, and
both worked fine.  In testing the setup in portable operation over Memorial
Day weekend (on one of the XA birds), CAT control stopped working with the
Netbook.  Flatly refused to work.  Before I started transmitting, however it
had been running all day prior to moving to the portable setup.

I moved to the Mac, and it too wasn't working.  Puzzled, I tried a reset of
the CPU in the radio.  Nothing changed.  Tried a different Prolific and FTDI
USB adapter.  Nothing.

The shack computer, a desktop, works fine both Linux and Ham Radio Deluxe
under Windows 10, with all three USB adapters.  I also dragged 
out an ancient Sony laptop with a real RS-232 port.  That works.    I 
made some test scripts on the desktop Linux machine to initiate CAT
commands, they worked at all possible port speeds.  Tried the scripts on the
netbook and Mac, they do not work.  Hamlib reports a communication error.

I also have a 5 year old i5 Windows machine, never ran HRD and that does not
work either.

I am not sure if the radio is on its way out, or if there is just some
strange incompatibility between the USB serial adapters, but the desktop box
works very reliably where the others do not.  And the last thing I want to
do is drag that beast out to FD.

Any input welcome.
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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Sun Jun 12 18:10:24 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:10:24 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT
In-Reply-To: <44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>
References: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
	<44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>
Message-ID: <575DA590.1060801@gmail.com>

Whenever I use Gpredict with my 847, I need to set the refresh rate to
about 5 seconds (5,000 ms).  Never understood why, but updating too
often quickly ends up with a hang.  This is on a Linux system with a
real serial port (not USB).  I'm using "rigctld -m 101 -r /dev/ttyS0 -t
4532 -v -s 57600" as the run string for the rig control process.

Good luck,

Greg  KO6TH


Jeff Breitner wrote:
>
> I have been troubleshooting CAT control problems of my 847 ahead of
> Field Day, and the oddest situation has come to light and wondered if
> anyone has seen this situation.
>
> I used to run Gpredict on my Mac, and on a Linux netbook with the 847,
> and both worked fine.  In testing the setup in portable operation over
> Memorial Day weekend (on one of the XA birds), CAT control stopped
> working with the Netbook.  Flatly refused to work.  Before I started
> transmitting, however it had been running all day prior to moving to
> the portable setup.
>
> I moved to the Mac, and it too wasn't working.  Puzzled, I tried a
> reset of the CPU in the radio.  Nothing changed.  Tried a different
> Prolific and FTDI USB adapter.  Nothing.
>
> The shack computer, a desktop, works fine both Linux and Ham Radio
> Deluxe under Windows 10, with all three USB adapters.  I also dragged
> out an ancient Sony laptop with a real RS-232 port.  That works.    I
> made some test scripts on the desktop Linux machine to initiate CAT
> commands, they worked at all possible port speeds.  Tried the scripts
> on the netbook and Mac, they do not work.  Hamlib reports a
> communication error.
>
> I also have a 5 year old i5 Windows machine, never ran HRD and that
> does not work either.
>
> I am not sure if the radio is on its way out, or if there is just some
> strange incompatibility between the USB serial adapters, but the
> desktop box works very reliably where the others do not.  And the last
> thing I want to do is drag that beast out to FD.
>
> Any input welcome.
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From lists at rudn.com  Mon Jun 13 00:26:09 2016
From: lists at rudn.com (Jeff Breitner)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 20:26:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT
In-Reply-To: <575DA590.1060801@gmail.com>
References: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
	<44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>
	<575DA590.1060801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92f6c88f-7786-f09b-029f-8a613b96fb90@rudn.com>



On 6/12/16 2:10 PM, Greg D wrote:
> Whenever I use Gpredict with my 847, I need to set the refresh rate to
> about 5 seconds (5,000 ms).  Never understood why, but updating too
> often quickly ends up with a hang.  This is on a Linux system with a
> real serial port (not USB).  I'm using "rigctld -m 101 -r /dev/ttyS0 -t
> 4532 -v -s 57600" as the run string for the rig control process.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Greg  KO6TH


Yeah, I have to set it to no more than 2000ms or it causes Gpredict to 
cough and gasp.  Gpredict has multithreading, but the writes to the rig 
control appear to be blocking.  I don't think it matters much, the radio 
can only take the data so fast anyway.

The radio works fine with any of the desktops I use, it just won't work 
with any of my portable computers.  Confirmed exact drivers in Windows, 
sniffed the ports in Linux and hooked up a 'scope to watch the 
waveforms.  Created test programs to try to look for buffering issues. 
Nothing is a smoking gun...'cept maybe that these USB->Serial converters 
are just good enough to work with (maybe) better chipsets that are on 
these desktop motherboards.  Dunno.

I have a GearMo adapter showing up this week.  If it works, great, if 
not this smaller desktop will be what I use.

What is so puzzling is that, it worked with everything up until a few 
weeks ago.

Thanks,

Jeff

From py2rn at arrl.net  Mon Jun 13 00:31:04 2016
From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 00:31:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite operation using SDR
References: <965512226.1842877.1465777864506.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <965512226.1842877.1465777864506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I have drawn some diagrams which I twitted before, but since interest is growing on using SDR for SAT I have included few more diagrams and consolidated? in just one document, I think the link is working, if not let me know I can send the file individually.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2wc2KHr8WW2MFlkR3M3azFBcW8/view?usp=sharing

73 

EDu?? PY2RN

From k7trkradio at charter.net  Mon Jun 13 00:38:21 2016
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 17:38:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite operation using SDR
In-Reply-To: <965512226.1842877.1465777864506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <965512226.1842877.1465777864506.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<965512226.1842877.1465777864506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d1c50b$e33616e0$a9a244a0$@charter.net>

Very nice work, Eduardo
Thank you and 73

Ted, K7TRK

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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:31 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite operation using SDR

I have drawn some diagrams which I twitted before, but since interest is growing on using SDR for SAT I have included few more diagrams and consolidated  in just one document, I think the link is working, if not let me know I can send the file individually.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2wc2KHr8WW2MFlkR3M3azFBcW8/view?usp=sharing

73 

EDu   PY2RN
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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Mon Jun 13 00:56:48 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 17:56:48 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT
In-Reply-To: <92f6c88f-7786-f09b-029f-8a613b96fb90@rudn.com>
References: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
	<44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>
	<575DA590.1060801@gmail.com>
	<92f6c88f-7786-f09b-029f-8a613b96fb90@rudn.com>
Message-ID: <575E04D0.6030706@gmail.com>



Jeff Breitner wrote:
>
>
> On 6/12/16 2:10 PM, Greg D wrote:
>> Whenever I use Gpredict with my 847, I need to set the refresh rate to
>> about 5 seconds (5,000 ms).  Never understood why, but updating too
>> often quickly ends up with a hang.  This is on a Linux system with a
>> real serial port (not USB).  I'm using "rigctld -m 101 -r /dev/ttyS0 -t
>> 4532 -v -s 57600" as the run string for the rig control process.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Yeah, I have to set it to no more than 2000ms or it causes Gpredict to
> cough and gasp.  Gpredict has multithreading, but the writes to the
> rig control appear to be blocking.  I don't think it matters much, the
> radio can only take the data so fast anyway.
>
> The radio works fine with any of the desktops I use, it just won't
> work with any of my portable computers.  Confirmed exact drivers in
> Windows, sniffed the ports in Linux and hooked up a 'scope to watch
> the waveforms.  Created test programs to try to look for buffering
> issues. Nothing is a smoking gun...'cept maybe that these USB->Serial
> converters are just good enough to work with (maybe) better chipsets
> that are on these desktop motherboards.  Dunno.
>
> I have a GearMo adapter showing up this week.  If it works, great, if
> not this smaller desktop will be what I use.
>
> What is so puzzling is that, it worked with everything up until a few
> weeks ago.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
> _______________________________________________

Grounding?

Just a wild thought.  What else could be different?

Greg   KO6TH


From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Mon Jun 13 01:51:29 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 20:51:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite operation using SDR
In-Reply-To: <965512226.1842877.1465777864506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <965512226.1842877.1465777864506.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<965512226.1842877.1465777864506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <51987DBF-3728-4A37-B5A8-47419C95BC2A@comcast.net>

Terrific and very helpful.  Many thanks
73
N4CVX


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 12, 2016, at 19:31, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> I have drawn some diagrams which I twitted before, but since interest is growing on using SDR for SAT I have included few more diagrams and consolidated  in just one document, I think the link is working, if not let me know I can send the file individually.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2wc2KHr8WW2MFlkR3M3azFBcW8/view?usp=sharing
> 
> 73 
> 
> EDu   PY2RN
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From jim at beeson.cc  Mon Jun 13 01:56:11 2016
From: jim at beeson.cc (jim at beeson.cc)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:56:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
Message-ID: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>




Does anyone use Nova for Windows (by Northern Lights Software Associates) for satellite tracking?

From aa5uk at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 13 02:30:15 2016
From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 02:30:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
In-Reply-To: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
References: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
Message-ID: <45605073.1391925.1465785015452.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Yes Jim. How can we help you?
73, Adrian AA5UK

      From: "jim at beeson.cc" <jim at beeson.cc>
 To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:56 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
   



Does anyone use Nova for Windows (by Northern Lights Software Associates) for satellite tracking?
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From k.swaggart at charter.net  Mon Jun 13 02:26:48 2016
From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:26:48 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
In-Reply-To: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
References: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
Message-ID: <5351460E7874480EB2BC50E4EA6624AD@PamPC>

I've used it for a number of years and am very happy with it. I do not use 
it for controlling the rotor or radio, just for visualizing and predicting 
the passes, so can't comment on those features. Currently using it with 
Windows 10.

73,
Ken, W7KKE

-----Original Message----- 
From: jim at beeson.cc
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:56 PM
To: amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows

Does anyone use Nova for Windows (by Northern Lights Software Associates) 
for satellite tracking?
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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 13 02:56:54 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 22:56:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release No. 16-05
Message-ID: <AE417426C1624A41A7802992E0CA27FD@DHJ>

 

 

                                      ARISS NEWS RELEASE                                  

no. 16-05                                                                                                                                                             

                                                                                

 

Sunday, June 12, 2016                                                                                                    

David Jordan, AA4KN

ARISS PR

aa4kn at amsat.org

 

 

NASA Astronaut Scott Tingle Earns Amateur Radio License 

and is Now Owner of Call Sign KG5NZA

 

will support ARISS on upcoming ISS Expeditions 53 and 54

NASA Astronaut Scott D. Tingle has just earned his Amateur Radio license, passing his exam on June 3, 2016. The FCC issued the call sign, KG5NZA, to him on June 8.  In January, as he began some NASA training in Russia he requested the license study material.  He had heard about ARISS during his astronaut training, and in January, decided to study on his own.  

The astronaut training program runs for at least two years, is intense, and heavily loaded with all types of required studies, and Amateur Radio is optional.  Tingle earned his technician license and plans to use it to support ARISS during his scheduled time on the International Space Station as part of the Expedition 53 crew.  Launch is tentatively planned for fall of 2017.  His stay continues into Expedition 54. 

Tingle graduated from Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, in 1988 with a master's degree in Mechanical Engineering, specializing in fluid mechanics and propulsion.  A captain in the United States Navy, he has served as a combat pilot in Iraq and Afghanistan and has earned copious awards and commendations. He was selected for the astronaut program in 2009 as one of 14 members of NASA Astronaut Group 20, and graduated in 2011. 

ARISS Chair Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, said, "The ARISS Team is excited to see continuing great interest among the Astronauts and Astronaut Candidates who are looking forward to supporting Amateur Radio activities through the ARISS platform."  

About ARISS

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, go to:  www.ariss.org,  www.amsat.org , and www.arrl.org .

 





 

 

Also, join us on Facebook:  Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) / Follow us on Twitter:  ARISS_status

Contact:

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From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 13 14:32:27 2016
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 09:32:27 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Yaesu FT100D HF/VHF/UHF all mode radio
Message-ID: <CAHC1P2_6zr-7mxioF6rZ1z=TtCXN1NHr4ohknaJarEmW+gFX6g@mail.gmail.com>

I have for sale a Yaesu FT100D HF/VHF/UHF all mode transceiver.  It does
100 watts on HF and 6m, 50 watts on 2m, and 20 watts on 70cm.  It has a
bilt in memory keyer, AF DSP providing noise reduction, bandpass filtering,
and an autonotch, 500hz CW filter, TCXO, SWR meter, CTCSS encode and
decode, and quite a few other features. Lots of great features in a mobile
sized package.

This would make a great 1/2 of a full duplex satellite station.

This radio is in very good condition, with no real bad marks or signs of
use on it.  It comes with a power cord, manual, box, and an almost new
MH-48 hand mic. This is not the original mic for the FT100D, so the up/down
buttons don't work on it, but it gives very good audio reports and the
other buttons work fine on it.

I am asking $525 shipped in the US for the FT100D and can take
paypal/check/MO.

73 John AF5CC

From lists at rudn.com  Mon Jun 13 22:07:15 2016
From: lists at rudn.com (Jeff Breitner)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:07:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT
In-Reply-To: <575E04D0.6030706@gmail.com>
References: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
	<44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>
	<575DA590.1060801@gmail.com>
	<92f6c88f-7786-f09b-029f-8a613b96fb90@rudn.com>
	<575E04D0.6030706@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b5d447e-a75a-e4de-75e4-79965564ba66@rudn.com>



> Grounding?
>
> Just a wild thought.  What else could be different?
>
> Greg   KO6TH
>

*ding*

This afternoon I hooked up the null modem cable to the desktop, hit one 
end with cold spray and nothing happened.  Hit the other end and *poof*, 
it quit working.

Not content, I went and hit the ends with a heat gun while hooked up to 
the Mac.  You'll never guess what happened...just before I made a new one.

Thanks for pulling me off the primrose path.  After years of working in 
software, of course it was a dev's fault, right?

Jeff

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Tue Jun 14 03:31:50 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT
In-Reply-To: <4b5d447e-a75a-e4de-75e4-79965564ba66@rudn.com>
References: <575C2B9F.9000007@xs4all.nl>
	<44bf337a-be79-5fde-78c9-551b7c8f8c59@rudn.com>
	<575DA590.1060801@gmail.com>
	<92f6c88f-7786-f09b-029f-8a613b96fb90@rudn.com>
	<575E04D0.6030706@gmail.com>
	<4b5d447e-a75a-e4de-75e4-79965564ba66@rudn.com>
Message-ID: <575F7AA6.3000903@gmail.com>

Hey, no problem.  As a software engineer I always blame the hardware
first.  Just a reflex...  :)

Good luck on Field Day,

Greg  KO6TH   (will be W6EK 5-AB SV on field day)


Jeff Breitner wrote:
>
>
>> Grounding?
>>
>> Just a wild thought.  What else could be different?
>>
>> Greg   KO6TH
>>
>
> *ding*
>
> This afternoon I hooked up the null modem cable to the desktop, hit
> one end with cold spray and nothing happened.  Hit the other end and
> *poof*, it quit working.
>
> Not content, I went and hit the ends with a heat gun while hooked up
> to the Mac.  You'll never guess what happened...just before I made a
> new one.
>
> Thanks for pulling me off the primrose path.  After years of working
> in software, of course it was a dev's fault, right?
>
> Jeff


From AJ9N at aol.com  Tue Jun 14 05:25:58 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 01:25:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-14 04:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <6c2208.b08f59a.4490ef66@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-14  04:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Briargreen Public School, Nepean, ON, Canada, telebridge  via VK4KHZ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The  scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact was successful: Mon  2016-06-13 15:19:15 UTC 31 deg  (***)

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-14 04:30 UTC.  
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1063. (***)
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1028.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time  slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A  complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,  and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-14 04:30 UTC.  
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  46 on orbit 
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

Exp. 47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From jim at beeson.cc  Tue Jun 14 01:08:06 2016
From: jim at beeson.cc (jim at beeson.cc)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:08:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
In-Reply-To: <5351460E7874480EB2BC50E4EA6624AD@PamPC>
References: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
	<5351460E7874480EB2BC50E4EA6624AD@PamPC>
Message-ID: <ee5332ec53787f46101381c98ca3fea1.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>




Thanks all for the reply. I used it several years ago - AO-40 era - and I have been dormant since then. I want to use it now for predictions for the two new FM birds, AO-85 & SO-50. I have version 2.2C which I believe is the latest. I know you can make
"extra" sats but I don't appear to be savvy enough to convert the 2-line code to what Nova needs. And then I will want to pull in the latest K-elements as well. Help please!!
?

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------

Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows

From: "Ken Swaggart" <k.swaggart at charter.net>

Date: Sun, June 12, 2016 10:26 pm

To: jim at beeson.cc

"amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>

--------------------------------------------------------------------------



> I've used it for a number of years and am very happy with it. I do not use

> it for controlling the rotor or radio, just for visualizing and predicting

> the passes, so can't comment on those features. Currently using it with

> Windows 10.

>

> 73,

> Ken, W7KKE

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

From: jim at beeson.cc

> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:56 PM

> To: amsat-bb

> Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows

>

> Does anyone use Nova for Windows (by Northern Lights Software Associates)

> for satellite tracking?

> _______________________________________________

> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available

> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions

> expressed

> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of

> AMSAT-NA.

> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!

> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

>

>

From pconver at gmail.com  Tue Jun 14 19:42:14 2016
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:42:14 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
In-Reply-To: <ee5332ec53787f46101381c98ca3fea1.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
References: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
	<5351460E7874480EB2BC50E4EA6624AD@PamPC>
	<ee5332ec53787f46101381c98ca3fea1.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKmskT0uuSuGRXwvSyM=97QVM3JYWyjX4mr=YdRAibMnqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Jim,

I don't used Nova for windows, but if what is required is updated Keps
in Amsat Format, you can get them in http://amsat.org.ar/sat.htm ,
just click on the satellite you want keps and click on Keps, you can
copy/paste necessary keps.

Other alternative is http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm , where you have
updated keps and predictions in real time for useful amateur
satellites.

73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:08 PM,  <jim at beeson.cc> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks all for the reply. I used it several years ago - AO-40 era - and I have been dormant since then. I want to use it now for predictions for the two new FM birds, AO-85 & SO-50. I have version 2.2C which I believe is the latest. I know you can make
> "extra" sats but I don't appear to be savvy enough to convert the 2-line code to what Nova needs. And then I will want to pull in the latest K-elements as well. Help please!!
>
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
>
> From: "Ken Swaggart" <k.swaggart at charter.net>
>
> Date: Sun, June 12, 2016 10:26 pm
>
> To: jim at beeson.cc
>
> "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>> I've used it for a number of years and am very happy with it. I do not use
>
>> it for controlling the rotor or radio, just for visualizing and predicting
>
>> the passes, so can't comment on those features. Currently using it with
>
>> Windows 10.
>
>>
>
>> 73,
>
>> Ken, W7KKE
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>
>
> From: jim at beeson.cc
>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:56 PM
>
>> To: amsat-bb
>
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
>
>>
>
>> Does anyone use Nova for Windows (by Northern Lights Software Associates)
>
>> for satellite tracking?
>
>> _______________________________________________
>
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>
>> expressed
>
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>
>> AMSAT-NA.
>
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>>
>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Tue Jun 14 19:50:10 2016
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:50:10 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
In-Reply-To: <CANTZqKmskT0uuSuGRXwvSyM=97QVM3JYWyjX4mr=YdRAibMnqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
	<5351460E7874480EB2BC50E4EA6624AD@PamPC>
	<ee5332ec53787f46101381c98ca3fea1.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
	<CANTZqKmskT0uuSuGRXwvSyM=97QVM3JYWyjX4mr=YdRAibMnqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57605FF2.9050100@coloradosatellite.com>

One foolproof way is to go to
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
and save that file.

Then in NOVA select
Kep Elements
Disk File Update
Manual Update
and select that file.

Then use
Views
Configure current view
to select the sats you want to have show up on the screen

Jim

On 6/14/2016 1:42 PM, Pedro Converso wrote:
> Hello Jim,
>
> I don't used Nova for windows, but if what is required is updated Keps
> in Amsat Format, you can get them in http://amsat.org.ar/sat.htm ,
> just click on the satellite you want keps and click on Keps, you can
> copy/paste necessary keps.
>
> Other alternative is http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm , where you have
> updated keps and predictions in real time for useful amateur
> satellites.
>
> 73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:08 PM,  <jim at beeson.cc> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks all for the reply. I used it several years ago - AO-40 era - and I have been dormant since then. I want to use it now for predictions for the two new FM birds, AO-85 & SO-50. I have version 2.2C which I believe is the latest. I know you can make
>> "extra" sats but I don't appear to be savvy enough to convert the 2-line code to what Nova needs. And then I will want to pull in the latest K-elements as well. Help please!!
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>>
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
>>
>> From: "Ken Swaggart" <k.swaggart at charter.net>
>>
>> Date: Sun, June 12, 2016 10:26 pm
>>
>> To: jim at beeson.cc
>>
>> "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>> I've used it for a number of years and am very happy with it. I do not use
>>> it for controlling the rotor or radio, just for visualizing and predicting
>>> the passes, so can't comment on those features. Currently using it with
>>> Windows 10.
>>> 73,
>>> Ken, W7KKE
>>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jim at beeson.cc
>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:56 PM
>>> To: amsat-bb
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
>>> Does anyone use Nova for Windows (by Northern Lights Software Associates)
>>> for satellite tracking?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From rupert.hamblin at gmail.com  Tue Jun 14 20:35:33 2016
From: rupert.hamblin at gmail.com (Rupert Hamblin)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:35:33 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] P4A - Es'hail-2
Message-ID: <16ecb166-a3d8-373c-df74-2ab64b07e0d0@gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

Just read some interesting info from the Amsat-DL FB site about uplink / 
downlink frequencies

for the P4A satellite due to launch end of the year / early next year.

My quick query was around what sort of station (transceiver / receiver / 
transmitter) will be

needed to work this satellite, will this be with off the shelf kit or 
will up / downconverters

be needed...?

Also the X & S Band LNB needed to support this sat, are these freely 
commercially available..?


Thanks for any tips / help here...

Cheers

RH / G0TKZ



From g0mrf at aol.com  Tue Jun 14 21:28:31 2016
From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:28:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] P4A - Es'hail-2
Message-ID: <15550d0d419-4d29-272c@webprd-a05.mail.aol.com>

Hi Rupert.

There was a big discussion on the BB about a week ago. There maybe some good tips there. Mails are available at

http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/

S Band uplink will need a little work but X-Band is available 'off the shelf'

I've attached an article on a suitable LNB, its performance and how it can be modified to make it's stability a little less temperature dependant.

73

David  G0MRF



Rupert Hamblin     rupert.hamblin at gmail.com       
            
  
Hi Guys,

Just read some interesting info from the Amsat-DL FB site about uplink / 
downlink frequencies

for the P4A satellite due to launch end of the year / early next year.

My quick query was around what sort of station (transceiver / receiver / 
transmitter) will be

needed to work this satellite, will this be with off the shelf kit or 
will up / downconverters

be needed...?

Also the X & S Band LNB needed to support this sat, are these freely 
commercially available..?


Thanks for any tips / help here...

Cheers

RH / G0TKZ





From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 14 22:35:11 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:35:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
Message-ID: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>

So today I?m driving through rural Virginia near my home and as I come around a corner, the sky is FULL of a very low-flying white blimp.  In years past the Goodyear blimp as well as the one from Met-Life have flown over, so while it was neat to see a blimp, it wasn?t the first time.

Anyway, I pulled over to take a closer look because this one was different.  You could clearly see U.S. Navy markings but what really stuck out was that on top of the blimp, running its full length, was what appeared to be a cross-yagi antenna approximately equal to the inflated size of the blimp itself.  This thing was HUGE!

Obviously it could have been anything, but it sure looked like an antenna to me.  My iPhone would not have taken a picture with enough zoom to show any detail, but I got a good look through binoculars.

By chance has anyone seen this type of structure on a blimp or have any insight on its use?  If you can imagine the inflated diameter of a full-size blimp, that was the length of the radials.  As for length, as I mentioned it ran the full length of the spine of the blimp itself.  Quite a site!

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA

From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp  Tue Jun 14 22:43:21 2016
From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS))
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:43:21 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <20160615074219.B14A.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:35:11 -0400, "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyway, I pulled over to take a closer look because this one was
> different.  You could clearly see U.S. Navy markings but what really
> stuck out was that on top of the blimp, running its full length, was
> what appeared to be a cross-yagi antenna approximately equal to the
> inflated size of the blimp itself.  This thing was HUGE!

"If I can't make it into AO-85 with *this*, I give up."

-- 
J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
Twitter: @Minus2_C


From WB4SON at gmail.com  Tue Jun 14 22:59:08 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:59:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <20160615074219.B14A.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
	<20160615074219.B14A.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ9J7NNZhvt7c7hwhNxTVFk3H6bVuyA7kHdvN=kzmad5pw@mail.gmail.com>

Was it this?

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/jlens/

They lost one around MD last year (broke loose).

73, Bob, WB4SON

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 6:43 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) <
the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:35:11 -0400, "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyway, I pulled over to take a closer look because this one was
> > different.  You could clearly see U.S. Navy markings but what really
> > stuck out was that on top of the blimp, running its full length, was
> > what appeared to be a cross-yagi antenna approximately equal to the
> > inflated size of the blimp itself.  This thing was HUGE!
>
> "If I can't make it into AO-85 with *this*, I give up."
>
> --
> J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
> the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
> http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
> Twitter: @Minus2_C
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 00:39:07 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:39:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <CAPonRZ9J7NNZhvt7c7hwhNxTVFk3H6bVuyA7kHdvN=kzmad5pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020><20160615074219.B14A.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>
	<CAPonRZ9J7NNZhvt7c7hwhNxTVFk3H6bVuyA7kHdvN=kzmad5pw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CCC303FB219B4D63A88D88036C4D4C4D@CSI9020>

No, it was a regular manned blimp with the pilot house underneath and 
engines on the rear.  Seemed to be doing a lot of nose-up / nose-down 
maneuvering, not unlike me trying to point an Arrow antenna where I imagine 
a satellite might be.  Ok, perhaps their movement wasn't quite as much like 
someone swatting at a wasp as my Arrow handling is.

The visual was quite distinctive... if you were looking from the front or 
rear, it would be like a zero (the blimp) with the letter "X" (antenna?) 
riding on its back.  I didn't count the elements, but my perception was 
perhaps 8 to 12.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




-----Original Message----- 
From: Bob
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:59 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?

Was it this?

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/jlens/

They lost one around MD last year (broke loose).

73, Bob, WB4SON

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 6:43 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS) <
the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:35:11 -0400, "Scott" <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyway, I pulled over to take a closer look because this one was
> > different.  You could clearly see U.S. Navy markings but what really
> > stuck out was that on top of the blimp, running its full length, was
> > what appeared to be a cross-yagi antenna approximately equal to the
> > inflated size of the blimp itself.  This thing was HUGE!
>
> "If I can't make it into AO-85 with *this*, I give up."
>
> --
> J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
> the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
> http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
> Twitter: @Minus2_C 


From jim at beeson.cc  Wed Jun 15 04:51:58 2016
From: jim at beeson.cc (jim at beeson.cc)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 00:51:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows
In-Reply-To: <57605FF2.9050100@coloradosatellite.com>
References: <8ff6796c479dfd197c13ad8efeead435.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
	<5351460E7874480EB2BC50E4EA6624AD@PamPC>
	<ee5332ec53787f46101381c98ca3fea1.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>
	<CANTZqKmskT0uuSuGRXwvSyM=97QVM3JYWyjX4mr=YdRAibMnqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<57605FF2.9050100@coloradosatellite.com>
Message-ID: <5161c2909bcba39b92a214150f94a6c0.squirrel@webmail04.register.com>




Thanks Jim! It works just fine. It compares well with SatPC32.

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------

Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows

From: "Jim White" <jim at coloradosatellite.com>

Date: Tue, June 14, 2016 3:50 pm

To: amsat-bb at amsat.org

--------------------------------------------------------------------------



> One foolproof way is to go to

> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt

> and save that file.

>

> Then in NOVA select

> Kep Elements

> Disk File Update

> Manual Update

> and select that file.

>

> Then use

> Views

> Configure current view

> to select the sats you want to have show up on the screen

>

> Jim

>

> On 6/14/2016 1:42 PM, Pedro Converso wrote:

>> Hello Jim,

>>

>> I don't used Nova for windows, but if what is required is updated Keps

>> in Amsat Format, you can get them in http://amsat.org.ar/sat.htm ,

>> just click on the satellite you want keps and click on Keps, you can

>> copy/paste necessary keps.

>>

>> Other alternative is http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm , where you have

>> updated keps and predictions in real time for useful amateur

>> satellites.

>>

>> 73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso

>>

>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:08 PM, <jim at beeson.cc> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> Thanks all for the reply. I used it several years ago - AO-40 era - and I have been dormant since then. I want to use it now for predictions for the two new FM birds, AO-85 & SO-50. I have version 2.2C which I believe is the latest. I know you can make

>>> "extra" sats but I don't appear to be savvy enough to convert the 2-line code to what Nova needs. And then I will want to pull in the latest K-elements as well. Help please!!

>>>

>>>

>>> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------

>>>

>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows

>>>

>>>

From: "Ken Swaggart" <k.swaggart at charter.net>

>>>

>>> Date: Sun, June 12, 2016 10:26 pm

>>>

>>> To: jim at beeson.cc

>>>

>>> "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>

>>>

>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> I've used it for a number of years and am very happy with it. I do not use

>>>> it for controlling the rotor or radio, just for visualizing and predicting

>>>> the passes, so can't comment on those features. Currently using it with

>>>> Windows 10.

>>>> 73,

>>>> Ken, W7KKE

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>

From: jim at beeson.cc

>>>

>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:56 PM

>>>> To: amsat-bb

>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for Windows

>>>> Does anyone use Nova for Windows (by Northern Lights Software Associates)

>>>> for satellite tracking?

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From burrell at teleport.com  Wed Jun 15 06:33:54 2016
From: burrell at teleport.com (Allen Burrell)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 23:33:54 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32- Auto Sat Change?
Message-ID: <00F9EE43938146F29CDCD0A10DB54C4E@AllenLenovo>

I have successfully implemented control of my Yaesu G-450/G-550 rotors via ERC using SatPC32. I can now track satellites across the sky as I await arrival of transverters to work with my Flex-3000/1500 combo. I have not been able to get the Auto Sat Change feature to work, however. I have set up prior.SQF with a list of prioritized satellites, and set Auto Sat Change to ?A+?. When a satellite becomes available, the lettered box highlights, but no changing of satellite to the active one occurs on the screen. Only after I click on the highlighted letter box does it activate the available satellite, allowing rotor control, and later, I hope, frequency tracking. What am I overlooking? Thanks for any help. Al, KI7RM

From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 12:34:22 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:34:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/p EL18 & EL19
Message-ID: <CAPovOwd_dq7H05JcWc6v+RusRN1JZcDVx6u0P883Adxo5xHHMg@mail.gmail.com>

I have had a few requests for EL18 and EL19 gridsquares.

Tonight, I will work three passes from the gridline near Edna, Texas:

XW-2A 00:02
SO-50  00:20
SO-50  02:02
(All times UTC, 6/16/2016)

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From pa3fym at amsat.org  Wed Jun 15 12:45:06 2016
From: pa3fym at amsat.org (Remco)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:45:06 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Practice tracking ES'hail 2
Message-ID: <201606151445.06453.pa3fym@amsat.org>

??


There is nothing to 'track'? Just point your dish
towards the appropriate geostationary slot, like
millions of broadcast viewers do.


To fine tune check the 25.5 - 26 degr beacon entries at:
http://frequencyplansatellites.altervista.org/Beacon-Telemetry_Europe-Africa-
MiddleEast.html



From daniel at destevez.net  Wed Jun 15 12:54:26 2016
From: daniel at destevez.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Est=c3=a9vez?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:54:26 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Practice tracking ES'hail 2
In-Reply-To: <201606151445.06453.pa3fym@amsat.org>
References: <201606151445.06453.pa3fym@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <57615002.1020200@destevez.net>

El 15/06/16 a las 14:45, Remco escribi?:
> ??
> 
> 
> There is nothing to 'track'? Just point your dish
> towards the appropriate geostationary slot, like
> millions of broadcast viewers do.

In fact you can the beacons of broadcast satellites to help you point
your dish.

For instance, Es'Hail 1, BADR-5 and BADR-6 put strong beacons around
11699MHz horizontal polarization.

See

http://destevez.net/2016/05/receiving-ku-band-geostationary-satellite-beacons/

for more beacons you can listen to.

73,

Dani EA4GPZ.


From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Wed Jun 15 13:28:14 2016
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:28:14 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?SatPC32-_Auto_Sat_Change=3F?=
Message-ID: <86036aefb1a6308414b647d19ec5a4d8@vgnet.nl>

Hi Allen,

Check and double check the prior.sqf. I use it with success but have 
run into problems where
for example there is a dash number in the Satellite name and the 
priority number.

So first start with just a couple and not more then nine.

Maybe share you prior.sqf file to see if there is an error in it.

73 Jan PE0SAT

On 15-06-2016 08:33, Allen Burrell wrote:
> I have successfully implemented control of my Yaesu G-450/G-550
> rotors via ERC using SatPC32. I can now track satellites across the
> sky as I await arrival of transverters to work with my Flex-3000/1500
> combo. I have not been able to get the Auto Sat Change feature to
> work, however. I have set up prior.SQF with a list of prioritized
> satellites, and set Auto Sat Change to ?A+?. When a satellite becomes
> available, the lettered box highlights, but no changing of satellite
> to the active one occurs on the screen. Only after I click on the
> highlighted letter box does it activate the available satellite,
> allowing rotor control, and later, I hope, frequency tracking. What am
> I overlooking? Thanks for any help. Al, KI7RM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> of AMSAT-NA.
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From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Wed Jun 15 14:10:08 2016
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:10:08 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32- Auto Sat Change?
In-Reply-To: <00F9EE43938146F29CDCD0A10DB54C4E@AllenLenovo>
References: <00F9EE43938146F29CDCD0A10DB54C4E@AllenLenovo>
Message-ID: <81185d71-6587-01e1-afb3-3223816b7514@t-online.de>

Hi Allen,
A possible reason of the issue: Each of the 4 configurations of SatPC32 
(menu "Setup") is using it's own file "Prior.SQF". I suppose you set up 
the Prior.SQF file in the main data folder "SatPC32", which is used with 
configuration #1 (the others are located in sub folders CfgII .. CfgIV 
of the main data folder). So, make sure that you run configuration #1.
73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 15.06.2016 um 08:33 schrieb Allen Burrell:
> I have successfully implemented control of my Yaesu G-450/G-550 rotors via ERC using SatPC32. I can now track satellites across the sky as I await arrival of transverters to work with my Flex-3000/1500 combo. I have not been able to get the Auto Sat Change feature to work, however. I have set up prior.SQF with a list of prioritized satellites, and set Auto Sat Change to ?A+?. When a satellite becomes available, the lettered box highlights, but no changing of satellite to the active one occurs on the screen. Only after I click on the highlighted letter box does it activate the available satellite, allowing rotor control, and later, I hope, frequency tracking. What am I overlooking? Thanks for any help. Al, KI7RM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 15 16:07:46 2016
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:07:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <80A14517-93C2-41BB-9632-8622E1256318@yahoo.com>

Is this the blimp less the yagi?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Blimp_MZ-3#/media/File%3AHandlers_prepare_to_launch_the_U.S._Navy_MZ-3A_manned_airship_for_an_orientation_flight_from_Naval_Air_Station_Patuxent_River%2C_Md.%2C_on_Nov._6%2C_2013_131106-N-PO203-532.jpg


Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

So today I?m driving through rural Virginia near my home and as I come around a corner, the sky is FULL of a very low-flying white blimp.  In years past the Goodyear blimp as well as the one from Met-Life have flown over, so while it was neat to see a blimp, it wasn?t the first time.

Anyway, I pulled over to take a closer look because this one was different.  You could clearly see U.S. Navy markings but what really stuck out was that on top of the blimp, running its full length, was what appeared to be a cross-yagi antenna approximately equal to the inflated size of the blimp itself.  This thing was HUGE!

Obviously it could have been anything, but it sure looked like an antenna to me.  My iPhone would not have taken a picture with enough zoom to show any detail, but I got a good look through binoculars.

By chance has anyone seen this type of structure on a blimp or have any insight on its use?  If you can imagine the inflated diameter of a full-size blimp, that was the length of the radials.  As for length, as I mentioned it ran the full length of the spine of the blimp itself.  Quite a site!

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA
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From Mvivona at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 15 16:22:46 2016
From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:22:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <B7CC1A6A-1C6D-4EB4-A929-561E3224128B@yahoo.com>

Scott,
Found a picture of your blimp with antenna. 

https://twitter.com/jhnord/status/703358728721063936

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

So today I?m driving through rural Virginia near my home and as I come around a corner, the sky is FULL of a very low-flying white blimp.  In years past the Goodyear blimp as well as the one from Met-Life have flown over, so while it was neat to see a blimp, it wasn?t the first time.

Anyway, I pulled over to take a closer look because this one was different.  You could clearly see U.S. Navy markings but what really stuck out was that on top of the blimp, running its full length, was what appeared to be a cross-yagi antenna approximately equal to the inflated size of the blimp itself.  This thing was HUGE!

Obviously it could have been anything, but it sure looked like an antenna to me.  My iPhone would not have taken a picture with enough zoom to show any detail, but I got a good look through binoculars.

By chance has anyone seen this type of structure on a blimp or have any insight on its use?  If you can imagine the inflated diameter of a full-size blimp, that was the length of the radials.  As for length, as I mentioned it ran the full length of the spine of the blimp itself.  Quite a site!

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA
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From jerry.tuyls at telenet.be  Wed Jun 15 19:36:47 2016
From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be (jerry.tuyls at telenet.be)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:36:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Practice tracking ES'hail 2
In-Reply-To: <201606151445.06453.pa3fym@amsat.org>
References: <201606151445.06453.pa3fym@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1999546277.92231819.1466019407775.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>

Interesting for pointing your dish:
http://www.satlex.be/nl/azel_calc.html


Gonna test my INVERTO lnb this weekend on some satbeacons to see how it goes.

73's

Jerry,ON4CJQ

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Remco" <pa3fym at amsat.org>
Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Verzonden: Woensdag 15 juni 2016 14:45:06
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] Practice tracking ES'hail 2

??


There is nothing to 'track'? Just point your dish
towards the appropriate geostationary slot, like
millions of broadcast viewers do.


To fine tune check the 25.5 - 26 degr beacon entries at:
http://frequencyplansatellites.altervista.org/Beacon-Telemetry_Europe-Africa-
MiddleEast.html


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From burrell at teleport.com  Wed Jun 15 19:39:01 2016
From: burrell at teleport.com (Allen Burrell)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:39:01 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32- Auto Sat Change?
In-Reply-To: <81185d71-6587-01e1-afb3-3223816b7514@t-online.de>
References: <00F9EE43938146F29CDCD0A10DB54C4E@AllenLenovo>
	<81185d71-6587-01e1-afb3-3223816b7514@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <593321408DC44E64AB9B1F3E6BBD19F4@AllenLenovo>

Thanks to all that replied. As they all noted, a problem existed in the 
PRIOR.SQR file. I did set it up in the main folder "SatPC32" for 
configuration 1, but in editing the original file I inadvertently deleted 
something important or had a typo. Rewriting the "prior" file has solved all 
issues! Al, KI7RM

-----Original Message----- 
From: Erich Eichmann
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:10 AM
To: Allen Burrell ; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32- Auto Sat Change?

Hi Allen,
A possible reason of the issue: Each of the 4 configurations of SatPC32
(menu "Setup") is using it's own file "Prior.SQF". I suppose you set up
the Prior.SQF file in the main data folder "SatPC32", which is used with
configuration #1 (the others are located in sub folders CfgII .. CfgIV
of the main data folder). So, make sure that you run configuration #1.
73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 15.06.2016 um 08:33 schrieb Allen Burrell:
> I have successfully implemented control of my Yaesu G-450/G-550 rotors via 
> ERC using SatPC32. I can now track satellites across the sky as I await 
> arrival of transverters to work with my Flex-3000/1500 combo. I have not 
> been able to get the Auto Sat Change feature to work, however. I have set 
> up prior.SQF with a list of prioritized satellites, and set Auto Sat 
> Change to ?A+?. When a satellite becomes available, the lettered box 
> highlights, but no changing of satellite to the active one occurs on the 
> screen. Only after I click on the highlighted letter box does it activate 
> the available satellite, allowing rotor control, and later, I hope, 
> frequency tracking. What am I overlooking? Thanks for any help. Al, KI7RM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions 
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of 
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 20:41:18 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:41:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <B7CC1A6A-1C6D-4EB4-A929-561E3224128B@yahoo.com>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
	<B7CC1A6A-1C6D-4EB4-A929-561E3224128B@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B5D16853088B467DAA0E9DEEB29EC749@CSI9020>

>>Found a picture of your blimp with antenna

Thank you!  I had searched online before posting my original message but could not find any similar images.

Honestly, that?s a good picture but it doesn?t do justice to how large the antenna radials actually were.  It wasn?t until I got a clear look with binoculars that I realized how far the bottom radials extended down ?around? the blimp, and how far up into the air the upper radials extended.  



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From: Mvivona 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:22 PM
To: Scott 
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?

Scott,
Found a picture of your blimp with antenna. 

https://twitter.com/jhnord/status/703358728721063936


Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:


So today I?m driving through rural Virginia near my home and as I come around a corner, the sky is FULL of a very low-flying white blimp.  In years past the Goodyear blimp as well as the one from Met-Life have flown over, so while it was neat to see a blimp, it wasn?t the first time.

Anyway, I pulled over to take a closer look because this one was different.  You could clearly see U.S. Navy markings but what really stuck out was that on top of the blimp, running its full length, was what appeared to be a cross-yagi antenna approximately equal to the inflated size of the blimp itself.  This thing was HUGE!

Obviously it could have been anything, but it sure looked like an antenna to me.  My iPhone would not have taken a picture with enough zoom to show any detail, but I got a good look through binoculars.

By chance has anyone seen this type of structure on a blimp or have any insight on its use?  If you can imagine the inflated diameter of a full-size blimp, that was the length of the radials.  As for length, as I mentioned it ran the full length of the spine of the blimp itself.  Quite a site!

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 20:43:07 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:43:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <80A14517-93C2-41BB-9632-8622E1256318@yahoo.com>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
	<80A14517-93C2-41BB-9632-8622E1256318@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E95E3EDB2C4A4113B3DBEBB7DDC772B5@CSI9020>

>>Is this the blimp less the yagi?

Looks about right, or very similar!



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mvivona
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:07 PM
To: Scott
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?

Is this the blimp less the yagi?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Blimp_MZ-3#/media/File%3AHandlers_prepare_to_launch_the_U.S._Navy_MZ-3A_manned_airship_for_an_orientation_flight_from_Naval_Air_Station_Patuxent_River%2C_Md.%2C_on_Nov._6%2C_2013_131106-N-PO203-532.jpg


Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:

So today I?m driving through rural Virginia near my home and as I come 
around a corner, the sky is FULL of a very low-flying white blimp.  In years 
past the Goodyear blimp as well as the one from Met-Life have flown over, so 
while it was neat to see a blimp, it wasn?t the first time.

Anyway, I pulled over to take a closer look because this one was different. 
You could clearly see U.S. Navy markings but what really stuck out was that 
on top of the blimp, running its full length, was what appeared to be a 
cross-yagi antenna approximately equal to the inflated size of the blimp 
itself.  This thing was HUGE!

Obviously it could have been anything, but it sure looked like an antenna to 
me.  My iPhone would not have taken a picture with enough zoom to show any 
detail, but I got a good look through binoculars.

By chance has anyone seen this type of structure on a blimp or have any 
insight on its use?  If you can imagine the inflated diameter of a full-size 
blimp, that was the length of the radials.  As for length, as I mentioned it 
ran the full length of the spine of the blimp itself.  Quite a site!

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA 


From dan at post.com  Wed Jun 15 20:45:58 2016
From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:45:58 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <E95E3EDB2C4A4113B3DBEBB7DDC772B5@CSI9020>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
	<80A14517-93C2-41BB-9632-8622E1256318@yahoo.com>
	<E95E3EDB2C4A4113B3DBEBB7DDC772B5@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <CAF3DnKh85RhEergLU+yvoZb3N+=TNATK6QtQtR-Vpqei7WpN-w@mail.gmail.com>

Forward from -Rupert, n2oto

I photographed it about a month ago.  You can see some great pictures if
you are interested at:

http://www.qsl.net/n2oto

I believe it is used for US NAVY MARS ops.

Some countries use 27 MHz for maritime coms.

I bet it hears AO-7 very well.

From WB4SON at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 21:27:44 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever?
In-Reply-To: <CAF3DnKh85RhEergLU+yvoZb3N+=TNATK6QtQtR-Vpqei7WpN-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D3D4F5EDFE2A4D32910E5C82D670F081@CSI9020>
	<80A14517-93C2-41BB-9632-8622E1256318@yahoo.com>
	<E95E3EDB2C4A4113B3DBEBB7DDC772B5@CSI9020>
	<CAF3DnKh85RhEergLU+yvoZb3N+=TNATK6QtQtR-Vpqei7WpN-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ_o5YcFOK_tLR8+TXHHkgkxuPvYkqCD9hb_HURNVvgu+Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2013/navy-airship-to-conduct-operations-in-the-dc-metro-region



On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Daniel Cussen <dan at post.com> wrote:

> Forward from -Rupert, n2oto
>
> I photographed it about a month ago.  You can see some great pictures if
> you are interested at:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n2oto
>
> I believe it is used for US NAVY MARS ops.
>
> Some countries use 27 MHz for maritime coms.
>
> I bet it hears AO-7 very well.
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun 15 21:36:50 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:36:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever? on 10 meter or CB
Message-ID: <d83acac489abb68f7dcbeba5a93fcad6@mail.gmail.com>

Based on N2OTO's photos, and assuming the Gondola is 6 feet high, the
elements of the beam appear to me to be 8 feet on a side.  That makes it a
big 10 meter or CB antenna!    OOPS, I see now he already figured that
out.  Nevermind...   Bob

> Forward from -Rupert, n2oto
>
> I photographed it about a month ago.  You can see some great pictures
> if you are interested at:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n2oto
>
> I believe it is used for US NAVY MARS ops.
>
> Some countries use 27 MHz for maritime coms.

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 21:47:05 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:47:05 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever? on 10 meter or CB
In-Reply-To: <d83acac489abb68f7dcbeba5a93fcad6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d83acac489abb68f7dcbeba5a93fcad6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ8Jw3v1_sVEpfQ5J7wxUX9aFH5W2Q7jdRmy0eMGb65Tdg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> Based on N2OTO's photos, and assuming the Gondola is 6 feet high, the
> elements of the beam appear to me to be 8 feet on a side.  That makes it a
> big 10 meter or CB antenna!    OOPS, I see now he already figured that
> out.  Nevermind...   Bob



With the cycle declining, a sailor's gotta do what a sailor's gotta do
to make the QSOs whether on 11 m or otherwise ...



-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 21:50:38 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:50:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMNk3M7RY6jnpyOLnNqO+Kytya7JGTYcAP1XLhVjZevYg@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTbx-4IwV0

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 00:38:04 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:38:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKMNk3M7RY6jnpyOLnNqO+Kytya7JGTYcAP1XLhVjZevYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKMNk3M7RY6jnpyOLnNqO+Kytya7JGTYcAP1XLhVjZevYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ9A3KwzYy57mzYCiNj07tWAbdQesjFfGboLwtO=1GE9fg@mail.gmail.com>

What was that?  The 2 train or something?  Where were you?  (NYC, I know).



On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:50 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTbx-4IwV0
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
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-- 
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 00:46:18 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:46:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ9A3KwzYy57mzYCiNj07tWAbdQesjFfGboLwtO=1GE9fg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKMNk3M7RY6jnpyOLnNqO+Kytya7JGTYcAP1XLhVjZevYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ9A3KwzYy57mzYCiNj07tWAbdQesjFfGboLwtO=1GE9fg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKN=GJVzDh-ykme+URSC-6uHFujG4mku_WyJa3UK+TDHQA@mail.gmail.com>

NQ in Queens. 36th Avenue station. I'm staying at an Airbnb in Astoria with
my girlfriend for the week.

Thanks again for supporting to me on Patreon, Peter.

John KG4AKV
On Jun 15, 2016 8:38 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What was that?  The 2 train or something?  Where were you?  (NYC, I know).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:50 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTbx-4IwV0
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
> --
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>

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 00:58:33 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:58:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKN=GJVzDh-ykme+URSC-6uHFujG4mku_WyJa3UK+TDHQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKMNk3M7RY6jnpyOLnNqO+Kytya7JGTYcAP1XLhVjZevYg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ9A3KwzYy57mzYCiNj07tWAbdQesjFfGboLwtO=1GE9fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKN=GJVzDh-ykme+URSC-6uHFujG4mku_WyJa3UK+TDHQA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ9+obqVvwAfEWi-BrkE5QdiG50tcCUSuso2KV46qiRW1A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:46 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> NQ in Queens. 36th Avenue station. I'm staying at an Airbnb in Astoria with
> my girlfriend for the week.
>
> Thanks again for supporting to me on Patreon, Peter.

You're welcome.  You're doing a service to the hobby.



-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From dquagliana at aol.com  Thu Jun 16 03:42:04 2016
From: dquagliana at aol.com (Douglas Quagliana)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:42:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Is anyone using a phased array antenna to receive low
 earth orbit satellites?
Message-ID: <efded9b0-8350-8480-798c-20dc92c91c27@aol.com>

All,

Is anyone using a phased array of antennas to receive low earth orbit
satellites (for example, the LA2QAA 435-jpole phased array that appeared
in the AMSAT Journal a few years ago).

In particular I would like to know
- what antenna elements you used for the array (j-pole, vertical, or something else)
- the number of antenna elements in your phased array
- what coax relays/coax switches you used for phasing (brand/model/signal losses?)
- details of the computer controlled steering (or did you manually steer)?
- what band(s) (2m, 70cm, other)?
- which satellite(s) you were trying to receive
and
-your overall experience with how well the phased array worked (or didn't work)
for receiving low earth orbit satellites.

If there is enough interest and/or enough replies then I'll write it up for an
AMSAT Journal article.

73,
Douglas KA2UPW/5


From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 03:47:07 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:47:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
Message-ID: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
the Field Day rules.  Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...

There are different station classifications based on your power source. 
What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?

Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery. 

My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw).  If I
park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery?  What
if higher than 5 watts?

Puzzled,

Greg  KO6TH


From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jun 16 04:08:31 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 04:08:31 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
In-Reply-To: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>
References: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUdCYda6WSxTC_3oT233CnM5PP_M+crAHXgLbvHjGj4sCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Greg,

If you don't move around to operate from different locations, you
should be able to do a class-A operation. You could even make that
case if you parked a "normal" car near the picnic table and run off
the car's battery, without firing up the engine or moving to different
locations. I wouldn't consider it class-C unless the station was
capable of being operated while mobile, regardless of the mode of
propulsion of your car. Unless I am traveling with a rental car,
I try to avoid ever using the car battery to power my radio gear.
I'd rather not call AAA to jumpstart my own car. :-)

Class-A stations are not limited to QRP transmitter power levels. The
power level determines the power multiplier for your score - if you
submit your score to ARRL for this non-contest. When I work Field
Day as a 1A station, I am always running on battery power at 5W. Even
when I used an HT and Elk on the office balcony last year, to make some
SO-50 and ISS packet QSOs during a break from a PBX upgrade project
at my office during Field Day weekend. I can run longer on the batteries
at 5W, and I enjoy the challenges of operating Field Day QRP - even on
satellites.

Without any projects at the office over Field Day weekend, I plan on
being at my traditional Field Day location in the Kaibab National
Forest about 25 miles west of Flagstaff AZ. I might have a coworker
with me, a long-time ham who is itching to get on HF with his own
portable gear. I'll steer clear of wherever he operates (Technician
license; he'll probably be on 10m and 6m much of the time), and
of course I'll try satellites and ISS passes.

If I get up there early enough, and there are workable satellite
passes before 1800 UTC on 25 June, I will go a few hundred yards/meters
west of my Field Day spot and work satellite passes on the DM35/DM45
grid boundary. I have worked from this grid boundary in the past,
parked on the side of old US-66.

Good luck, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK




On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
> the Field Day rules.  Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
>
> There are different station classifications based on your power source.
> What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
> Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
> rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
>
> Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
> engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery.
>
> My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw).  If I
> park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
> picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery?  What
> if higher than 5 watts?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Greg  KO6TH
> <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>

From kk5do at amsat.org  Thu Jun 16 04:13:47 2016
From: kk5do at amsat.org (KK5DO)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 04:13:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
In-Reply-To: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>
References: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1890211881.3248439.1466050427209.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

You can operate under whichever class fits your power source. Here is what the ARRL says about the power multiplier. 
73...bruce

7.2. Power multipliers: The power multiplier that applies is determined by the highest power output of any of the transmitters used during the Field Day operation. 7.2.1. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less and
 if a power source other than commercial mains or motor-driven generator is used (batteries, solar cells, water-driven generator), the power multiplier is 5 (five). 7.2.2. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less, but the power source is from a commercial main or from a motor-driven generator, the power multiplier is 2. If batteries are charged during the Field Day period using commercial mains or a motor-driven generator the power multiplier is 2 (two). 7.2.3. If any or all contacts are made using an output power up to 150 Watts or less, the power multiplier is 2 (two). 7.2.4. If any or all contacts are made using an output power greater than 150 Watts, the power multiplier is 1 (one). 7.2.5. The power multiplier for an entry is determined by the maximum output power used by any transmitter used to complete any contact during the event. (Example: a group has one QRP station running 3 Watts and a second station running 100 Watts, the power multiplier of 2 applies to all contacts made by the entire operation). 

      From: Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com>
 To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:47 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
   
Hi folks,

Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
the Field Day rules.? Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...

There are different station classifications based on your power source. 
What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?

Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery. 

My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw).? If I
park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery?? What
if higher than 5 watts?

Puzzled,

Greg? KO6TH

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From kq6ea at verizon.net  Thu Jun 16 04:31:36 2016
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 04:31:36 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
In-Reply-To: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>
References: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57622BA8.1070607@verizon.net>

The ARRL answers these questions in a timely manner.

Jim  KQ6EA


On 06/16/2016 03:47 AM, Greg D wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
> the Field Day rules.  Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
>
> There are different station classifications based on your power source.
> What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
> Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
> rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
>
> Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
> engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery.
>
> My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw).  If I
> park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
> picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery?  What
> if higher than 5 watts?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
> _______________________________________________
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From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Thu Jun 16 04:32:13 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:32:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
In-Reply-To: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>
References: <5762213B.1080801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FD379882-8464-416A-8649-7AC75B9CF626@comcast.net>

Greg, be not puzzled.  My Nissan LEAF is an example.  As long as I don't put the LEAF in drive and move it around, it is just a big battery -- a really big battery, with about 1.2kV @ 13.8 Vdc direct from the positive side of the small 12 vdc battery and from the negative grounding buss at the rear of the motor compartment.  The LEAF 400 Vdc power pack automatically keeps the 12 vdc battery charged while operating.  In reality the 12vdc battery acts to transform the 400 vdc big battery down to 12 vdc.   I have photos and description on the Nissan LEAF Forum.

73
Dave
N4CVX


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 22:47, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
> the Field Day rules.  Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
> 
> There are different station classifications based on your power source. 
> What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
> Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
> rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
> 
> Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
> engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery. 
> 
> My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw).  If I
> park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
> picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery?  What
> if higher than 5 watts?
> 
> Puzzled,
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From W5BK at live.com  Wed Jun 15 20:19:28 2016
From: W5BK at live.com (Brad Hyde)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:19:28 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32
Message-ID: <BY2PR1101MB11279A469890282A92181271E8550@BY2PR1101MB1127.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone else has tried to download SatPC32 under Windows 10?  I have been trying for 2 days now.  Windows 10 says I don't have permission.  So, I activate the administrator account and try it that way.  Same issue.  So, I go into Windows security and give the administrator all privileges.  Still won't work.  Keeps telling me I don't have permission to install software for other users.  I am not impressed with W10 at this point..

Thanks for any advice.

Brad

W5BK

From erich.eichmann at t-online.de  Thu Jun 16 12:30:47 2016
From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:30:47 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <BY2PR1101MB11279A469890282A92181271E8550@BY2PR1101MB1127.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BY2PR1101MB11279A469890282A92181271E8550@BY2PR1101MB1127.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <57629BF7.5070102@t-online.de>

Brad,
please, read the instructions on my website 
http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadinfo.htm, particularly sect. B.
First EXTRACT  the downloaded ZIP file, then RIGHT click on the file 
"setup" and from the list that opens choose "Run as Administrator".
73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 15.06.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Brad Hyde:
> Hello all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone else has tried to download SatPC32 under Windows 10?  I have been trying for 2 days now.  Windows 10 says I don't have permission.  So, I activate the administrator account and try it that way.  Same issue.  So, I go into Windows security and give the administrator all privileges.  Still won't work.  Keeps telling me I don't have permission to install software for other users.  I am not impressed with W10 at this point..
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Brad
>
> W5BK
> _______________________________________________
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From kb2m at arrl.net  Thu Jun 16 12:40:12 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:40:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32
In-Reply-To: <BY2PR1101MB11279A469890282A92181271E8550@BY2PR1101MB1127.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BY2PR1101MB11279A469890282A92181271E8550@BY2PR1101MB1127.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <095801d1c7cc$3a22f3c0$ae68db40$@net>

I installed SatPC32 under WIN10 with no issues. The only thing I can think
of is you have to right click on the zipped install file, unzip into a
directory, AND then right click on the setup.exe and run as administrator. I
think Erich mentions that in his install notes...

73 Jeff kb2m
 

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Brad Hyde
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:19 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone else has tried to download SatPC32 under Windows
10?  I have been trying for 2 days now.  Windows 10 says I don't have
permission.  So, I activate the administrator account and try it that way.
Same issue.  So, I go into Windows security and give the administrator all
privileges.  Still won't work.  Keeps telling me I don't have permission to
install software for other users.  I am not impressed with W10 at this
point..

Thanks for any advice.

Brad

W5BK
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From nss at mwt.net  Thu Jun 16 13:06:24 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:06:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
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Wow, am I reading that right?


If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less, but the power source is from a commercial main or from a motor-driven generator, the power multiplier is 2.


and


If any or all contacts are made using an output power up to 150 Watts or less, the power multiplier is 2

That can't be right.

Joe WB9SBD
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On 6/15/2016 11:13 PM, KK5DO wrote:
> You can operate under whichever class fits your power source. Here is what the ARRL says about the power multiplier.
> 73...bruce
>
> 7.2. Power multipliers: The power multiplier that applies is determined by the highest power output of any of the transmitters used during the Field Day operation. 7.2.1. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less and
>   if a power source other than commercial mains or motor-driven generator is used (batteries, solar cells, water-driven generator), the power multiplier is 5 (five). 7.2.2. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less, but the power source is from a commercial main or from a motor-driven generator, the power multiplier is 2. If batteries are charged during the Field Day period using commercial mains or a motor-driven generator the power multiplier is 2 (two). 7.2.3. If any or all contacts are made using an output power up to 150 Watts or less, the power multiplier is 2 (two). 7.2.4. If any or all contacts are made using an output power greater than 150 Watts, the power multiplier is 1 (one). 7.2.5. The power multiplier for an entry is determined by the maximum output power used by any transmitter used to complete any contact during the event. (Example: a group has one QRP station running 3 Watts and a second station running 100 Watts, the power multiplier of 2 applies to all contacts made by the entire operation).
>
>        From: Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com>
>   To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:47 PM
>   Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
>     
> Hi folks,
>
> Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
> the Field Day rules.  Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
>
> There are different station classifications based on your power source.
> What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
> Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
> rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
>
> Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
> engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery.
>
> My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw).  If I
> park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
> picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery?  What
> if higher than 5 watts?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
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From bruisedreed at juno.com  Thu Jun 16 14:30:44 2016
From: bruisedreed at juno.com (bruisedreed at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:30:44 GMT
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
Message-ID: <20160616.103044.19144.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>

Hello all!  Been lurking a while here and just wanted to say hi and thanks to everyone.  Just started working the birds. VERY limited success so far on the linear transponders. Limited budget leads me to either have to run in half duplex (obviously not preferred) or come up with another low cost receiving option. I bought an RTL-SDR to see if it could be any help. I have to say I really like this little receiver. It&rsquo;s a little buggy figuring things out but it receives really pretty well&hellip;UNTIL I try to receive CW and SSB on the transponders. I have no problem receiving FM repeaters and simplex and have monitored a few SO50 passes with it no problem, but for some reason I&rsquo;m not hearing the same signals I can hear on the receiver of my FT100 with the EXACT same antenna. I A/B them and have nothing on the SDR. Is anyone using one of these? I am probably missing something simple. When I started receiving HF I couldn&rsquo;t make it work until I figured out I had to change the sampeling in the setup to direct from quadrature&hellip;only learned that through a forum and I assume something like that will make the thing come to life. Lack of documentation on some of these things is kind of a pain. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer and my apologies to anyone I have frustrated working half duplex! I will figure out what I&rsquo;m doing!
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From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 15:22:52 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 10:22:52 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
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On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less, but the power
> source is from a commercial main or from a motor-driven generator, the power
> multiplier is 2.
>
>
> and
>
>
> If any or all contacts are made using an output power up to 150 Watts or
> less, the power multiplier is 2
>
> That can't be right.


The multiplier is 2 if your highest [powered station puts out 150 W or less.
The multiplier is 5 if your highest [powered station puts out 5 W or
less UNLESS you are powering it from commercial power or an engine
generator.

Seems clear to me.

http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2016/2016%20Rules.pdf

7. Scoring:
Scores are based on the total number of QSO points times the power
multiplier corresponding to the highest power level under which any
contact was made during the Field Day period plus the bonus points.

7.2. Power multipliers: The power multiplier that applies is
determined by the highest power output of any of the transmitters used
during the Field Day operation.

7.2.1. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less and
if a power source other than commercial mains or motor-driven
generator is used (batteries, solar cells, water-driven generator),
the power multiplier is 5 (five).

7.2.2. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less, but
the power source is from a commercial main or from a motor-driven
generator, the power multiplier is 2. If batteries are charged during
the Field Day period using commercial mains or a motor-driven
generator the power multiplier is 2 (two).

7.2.3. If any or all contacts are made using an output power up to 150
Watts or less, the power multiplier is 2 (two).

7.2.4. If any or all contacts are made using an output power greater
than 150 Watts, the power multiplier is 1 (one).

7.2.5. The power multiplier for an entry is determined by the maximum
output power used by any transmitter used to complete any contact
during the event. (Example: a group has one QRP station running 3
Watts and a second station running 100 Watts, the power multiplier of
2 applies to all contacts made by the entire operation).




-- 
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From fwinder at fuse.net  Thu Jun 16 16:55:47 2016
From: fwinder at fuse.net (Farrell Winder)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:55:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
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Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>> If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less, but the power
>> source is from a commercial main or from a motor-driven generator, the power
>> multiplier is 2.
>> 
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> 
>> If any or all contacts are made using an output power up to 150 Watts or
>> less, the power multiplier is 2
>> 
>> That can't be right.
> 
> 
> The multiplier is 2 if your highest [powered station puts out 150 W or less.
> The multiplier is 5 if your highest [powered station puts out 5 W or
> less UNLESS you are powering it from commercial power or an engine
> generator.
> 
> Seems clear to me.
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2016/2016%20Rules.pdf
> 
> 7. Scoring:
> Scores are based on the total number of QSO points times the power
> multiplier corresponding to the highest power level under which any
> contact was made during the Field Day period plus the bonus points.
> 
> 7.2. Power multipliers: The power multiplier that applies is
> determined by the highest power output of any of the transmitters used
> during the Field Day operation.
> 
> 7.2.1. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less and
> if a power source other than commercial mains or motor-driven
> generator is used (batteries, solar cells, water-driven generator),
> the power multiplier is 5 (five).
> 
> 7.2.2. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or less, but
> the power source is from a commercial main or from a motor-driven
> generator, the power multiplier is 2. If batteries are charged during
> the Field Day period using commercial mains or a motor-driven
> generator the power multiplier is 2 (two).
> 
> 7.2.3. If any or all contacts are made using an output power up to 150
> Watts or less, the power multiplier is 2 (two).
> 
> 7.2.4. If any or all contacts are made using an output power greater
> than 150 Watts, the power multiplier is 1 (one).
> 
> 7.2.5. The power multiplier for an entry is determined by the maximum
> output power used by any transmitter used to complete any contact
> during the event. (Example: a group has one QRP station running 3
> Watts and a second station running 100 Watts, the power multiplier of
> 2 applies to all contacts made by the entire c
> -- 
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From rwmcgwier at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 17:15:58 2016
From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:15:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
Message-ID: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>

Neglect the "First geosynchronous" article. I did not write it and it is
like all mistakes, firmly in archives and not fixable.

http://www.hume.vt.edu/geo/

73s
Bob


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From kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org  Thu Jun 16 17:46:01 2016
From: kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org (Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:46:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
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Really nicely done video.

I like the multi-view panels, very nice touch.  What satellite tracking
software do you use?

Kevin, WB5RUE
EL09uf (or EL09vf, depending on where I stand in my yard)

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:51 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTbx-4IwV0

73, John Brier KG4AKV
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 18:24:40 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:24:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
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Thanks Kevin,

I use Orbitron currently but will probably switch to/also use SatPC32
eventually now that I have had it demoed to me by K8YSE at the Dayton
Hamvention. Originally I found it too complicated to use.

John KG4AKV

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
<kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
> Really nicely done video.
>
> I like the multi-view panels, very nice touch.  What satellite tracking
> software do you use?
>
> Kevin, WB5RUE
> EL09uf (or EL09vf, depending on where I stand in my yard)
>
> I am Voltohm of Borg!  Resistance is E/I, you will be attenuated!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTbx-4IwV0
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
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From k9jkm at comcast.net  Thu Jun 16 18:29:35 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:29:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Radios OFF June 17-19
Message-ID: <006d01d1c7fd$09037590$1b0a60b0$@net>

Relayed from Twitter so amsat-bb folks see it:

AMSAT-UK Retweeted
ISS Ham ?@RF2Space  

#ARISS radios will power off on June 17 at 22:25 UTC for Soyuz return with
@astro_timpeake  and @astro_tim . Back on June 19 at 10:30 UTC.

--
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jun 16 18:54:05 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:54:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work"
References: <528856269.7643560.1466103245274.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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ARRL story quotes NASA engineer Joe Pellegrino as saying "Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work" - is the failure rate really that high?http://www.arrl.org/news/view/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cubesats-deployed-into-space-work

I've certainly noticed that a number of ISS deployed CubeSats using amateur frequencies which were subject to delays in the initial launch and then more delays before actual deployment have failed but it certainly didn't seem to be as high as 50%

But most ISS CubeSat deployments are not on amateur frequencies e.g. over 100 Planet Labs Dove CubeSats have been deployed. Was the NASA engineer saying that half of Planet Labs satellites failed to work? 

73 Trevor M5AKA

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jun 16 20:22:58 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:22:58 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
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Hi, (name or call?)!

The inexpensive RTL-SDR dongles are a great way to get started with
SDR receivers. For amateur satellite work, other than the ISS and maybe
AO-85, they have a couple of significant drawbacks...

1. These dongles were designed to be TV receivers, working with
signals much stronger than we have from our satellites or even the
ISS ham station.

2. These dongles lack front-end filtering. This means that there could
be a strong signal near you that swamps the receiver that wipes out
what you're trying to hear. If you are trying to work satellites
full-duplex, it is possible that your transmitter will shut down
the dongle until you end your transmission. This was a problem I
experienced early on when I tried using one of these dongles as
my downlink receiver, and quickly moved on to something else.

Unfortunately there isn't anything in the middle ground between these
dongles and devices like the SDRplay (sold by HRO in the US for $149)
or the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ (sold by its UK manufacturer for around
$200 depending on exchange rates, which includes FedEx next-day
shipping from England to most addresses in the continental USA). Both
of these devices do well as the downlink receiver for working
satellites. Both come with front-end filtering that the RTL-SDR
dongles lack, and still have sensitive receivers. The SDRplay
has a low-noise amplifier that is engaged when receiving at VHF or
higher, but you can reduce the amount of gain from the built-in LNA.
For my work, I keep that gain reduction value set to 0, so I have
maximum gain to hear the downlinks.

Good luck, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK





On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:30 PM, bruisedreed at juno.com <bruisedreed at juno.com>
wrote:

> Hello all!  Been lurking a while here and just wanted to say hi and thanks
> to everyone.  Just started working the birds. VERY limited success so far
> on the linear transponders. Limited budget leads me to either have to run
> in half duplex (obviously not preferred) or come up with another low cost
> receiving option. I bought an RTL-SDR to see if it could be any help. I
> have to say I really like this little receiver. It&rsquo;s a little buggy
> figuring things out but it receives really pretty well&hellip;UNTIL I try
> to receive CW and SSB on the transponders. I have no problem receiving FM
> repeaters and simplex and have monitored a few SO50 passes with it no
> problem, but for some reason I&rsquo;m not hearing the same signals I can
> hear on the receiver of my FT100 with the EXACT same antenna. I A/B them
> and have nothing on the SDR. Is anyone using one of these? I am probably
> missing something simple. When I started receiving HF I couldn&rsquo;t make
> it work until I figured out I had
>   to change the sampeling in the setup to direct from
> quadrature&hellip;only learned that through a forum and I assume something
> like that will make the thing come to life. Lack of documentation on some
> of these things is kind of a pain. Thanks in advance for any help you can
> offer and my apologies to anyone I have frustrated working half duplex! I
> will figure out what I&rsquo;m doing!
> ____________________________________________________________
>

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 20:33:32 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:33:32 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
<amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
> Unfortunately there isn't anything in the middle ground between these
> dongles and devices like the


The $20 versions are well worth the effort if you've never played with
an SDR of any sort before.  For satellite downlinks?  Dunno, never
tried.  Surely as you describe!

Has anyone done any kind of "shoot out" comparing the cheapos to the
real ones or even between the real ones (FCD, SDRPlay)?  Before I
plunk down $200, I'd like to see what I'm getting ...  over and above
what my $20 dongle can do, of course.  :-)  I read what you typed, but
I'd like to see numbers.




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From kq6ea at verizon.net  Thu Jun 16 21:15:14 2016
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:15:14 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
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I did some experimentation with the $20 dongle vs the FunCube dongle for 
receiving weather satellites.

If you live in an RF dense area, like here in Southern California, they 
BOTH benefit from having some front-end filtering added.

Other wise you have to turn the RF gain down quite a bit on both of them 
to prevent 'break through' from strong signals that can be may MHz away 
from your band of interest.

In my case, I used an SSB Electronik 2 Meter preamp with an old M2 2 
Meter Eggbeater antenna. I could get reasonable copy above 10*~15* 
elevation with just the dongle and antenna, but suffered from strong 
signal break through. If I turned the RF gain down to where the 
interfering signals no longer broke through, it cut my reception down to 
maybe 25*~30* elevation.

With the SSB preamp and it's built-in helical filter, even operating at 
137 MHz, the difference was staggering, and I could get good copy down 
to 5* or so.

The only other SDR I played with for a while was the HackRF, which I 
found to be unsuitable for what I was looking for. Despite the hype 
behind it, it's still an 8-bit unit with limited dynamic range.

YMMV!

73, Jim  KQ6EA

On 06/16/2016 08:33 PM, Peter Laws wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
>> Unfortunately there isn't anything in the middle ground between these
>> dongles and devices like the
>
> The $20 versions are well worth the effort if you've never played with
> an SDR of any sort before.  For satellite downlinks?  Dunno, never
> tried.  Surely as you describe!
>
> Has anyone done any kind of "shoot out" comparing the cheapos to the
> real ones or even between the real ones (FCD, SDRPlay)?  Before I
> plunk down $200, I'd like to see what I'm getting ...  over and above
> what my $20 dongle can do, of course.  :-)  I read what you typed, but
> I'd like to see numbers.
>
>
>
>


From jbarbre at xmission.com  Thu Jun 16 21:27:29 2016
From: jbarbre at xmission.com (Jim Barbre)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:27:29 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160616.103044.19144.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>
	<CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <576319C1.7060705@xmission.com>

The Airspy Mini sells for $114. Worth looking into.

73
Jim Barbre
KB7YSY

On 6/16/2016 1:22 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote:
> Hi, (name or call?)!
>
> The inexpensive RTL-SDR dongles are a great way to get started with
> SDR receivers. For amateur satellite work, other than the ISS and maybe
> AO-85, they have a couple of significant drawbacks...
>
> 1. These dongles were designed to be TV receivers, working with
> signals much stronger than we have from our satellites or even the
> ISS ham station.
>
> 2. These dongles lack front-end filtering. This means that there could
> be a strong signal near you that swamps the receiver that wipes out
> what you're trying to hear. If you are trying to work satellites
> full-duplex, it is possible that your transmitter will shut down
> the dongle until you end your transmission. This was a problem I
> experienced early on when I tried using one of these dongles as
> my downlink receiver, and quickly moved on to something else.
>
> Unfortunately there isn't anything in the middle ground between these
> dongles and devices like the SDRplay (sold by HRO in the US for $149)
> or the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ (sold by its UK manufacturer for around
> $200 depending on exchange rates, which includes FedEx next-day
> shipping from England to most addresses in the continental USA). Both
> of these devices do well as the downlink receiver for working
> satellites. Both come with front-end filtering that the RTL-SDR
> dongles lack, and still have sensitive receivers. The SDRplay
> has a low-noise amplifier that is engaged when receiving at VHF or
> higher, but you can reduce the amount of gain from the built-in LNA.
> For my work, I keep that gain reduction value set to 0, so I have
> maximum gain to hear the downlinks.
>
> Good luck, and 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK
>
>
>
>
>
>

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jun 16 22:36:34 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:36:34 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ97NMRD76+yXC0aTM-_Qd0fp-Dh5Y=KHjE9HRrTnyW6SA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160616.103044.19144.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>
	<CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ97NMRD76+yXC0aTM-_Qd0fp-Dh5Y=KHjE9HRrTnyW6SA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUc=SekxW=W008Kwj9xBm8zPJF_=ij7QN9e8-YoKjGZb7g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Peter!

You are correct. The inexpensive RTL-SDR dongles are a great way to
give SDR a try. With the low prices, there should also be appropriate
expectations. Since these were originally made as television
receivers, they were designed for use with stronger signals than
what we typically see from our satellites. Can they work as a
downlink receiver? Sure. Just like a Baofeng HT can be used to
work FM satellites. Not the best thing, but they can work.

I've tried a few of these devices as downlink receivers for working
satellites. In my case, these receivers need to be able to handle
nearby RF on a different band, which is a problem for some of these
devices. My list of devices I have tried are:

1. RTL-SDR dongles. No front-end filtering, not as sensitive as
other devices, they shut down in the presence of 5W or less when I
am transmitting to a satellite. Even as little as 500mW can be a
problem for these devices. I might have spent more time using these
if I only wanted to receive. Also, I would like to have something that
didn't require an upconverter to cover the HF spectrum above 24
MHz. I keep one plugged into a PC at my office, and use that to
listen to FM stations and occasionally the local fire or state
trooper dispatch channels (still in analog around Phoenix).

2. FUNcube Dongle Pro (not the Pro+). A better receiver than the
RTL-SDRs, but also lacking front-end filtering. No good for me as
part of my satellite station, but could have been fine for receive-only
setups.

3. FUNcube Dongle Pro+. Nice receiver, has front-end filtering
including SAW filters at 2m and 70cm, directly compatible with the
FUNcube Dashboard and FoxTelem programs. Only drawback for me is the
192 kHz maximum bandwidth. The 240-420 MHz frequency gap is not a
big deal, but is for some who like hearing the military aircraft or
satellites in this range.

4. HackRF. This is a wideband transceiver, covering from around 100
kHz to 6 GHz, with a maximum bandwidth of 20 MHz. It is nice to use
one of these to watch the entire FM broadcast band, but its receiver
really isn't up to the task as a downlink receiver for our current
satellites at 10m (AO-7 mode A), 2m, or 70cm. I have the Great Scott
Gadgets HackRF One and the crowdfunded HackRF Blue version. Other
than the crowdfunded version using some different components and
costing about $100 less, the HackRF Blue functions the same as
the HackRF One. The HackRF devices lack front-end filtering,
and come with warnings about using them in the presence of strong RF,
so I have not tried using one of these along with an FT-817 or
HT to work satellites, but its receive-only performance is not
impressive.

5. SDRplay. This is what I have been using for satellite work for
the past year. With 100 kHz-2 GHz unblocked, maximum 8 MHz bandwidth,
and bandpass filtering across that range, it has worked very well for
me - even in Los Angeles. I use this with an 8-inch Windows 10
tablet and HDSDR software, which is a low-overhead program that does
fine on these low-end tablets. FUNcube Dashboard and FoxTelem
cannot directly use an SDRplay, but with something like HDSDR and
a virtual audio cable I can make use of the SDRplay with those
programs. Or I can make RF recordings of the passes in HDSDR, then
play back the recording later through a virtual audio cable into
those programs to decode telemetry.

I have not tried either the Airspy or Airspy Mini. These units do
not cover below 24 MHz, and require an upconverter if you want to use
them for HF reception, but they will cover the bands currently used
for our satellites, starting at 10m and going up. There is a US-based
distributor for Airspy, so you don't have to order these from
overseas.

Of course, your location will determine how much interference you
will have to withstand. I didn't have that to deal with at a recent
demonstration I gave in Long Beach earlier this year, when I used my
SDRplay and tablet as the downlink receiver to work a couple of the
XW-2 satellites. I don't have those issues at my house here in the
Phoenix area, and have yet to run into a place where there is a lot
of interference to deal with. I have used my SDRplay/HDSDR combination
from many locations across the US and Canada in the past year, and
have yet to run into a situation where the local RF swamps my SDRplay.

SDRplays are sold at HRO in the US for $149. FUNcube Dongle Pro+
is sold by its UK manufacturer, and including FedEx shipping to
the US runs around $200 depending on exchange rates. The HackRF One is
available for around $300. I have 3 SDRplays, two that go with me for
demonstrations or presentations, and one as a backup. I also have a
couple of FUNcube Dongle Pro+ receivers, which will eventually
be used for an unattended receive-only setup at home with the FUNcube
Dashboard and FoxTelem programs on a PC.

I would recommend either the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ or SDRplay if you are
wanting to work satellites using one of these receivers for the
downlink side of your station. If you want to see some examples of
what I have received using my SDRplays, I have lots of RF recordings
at http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/ - look for the folders with YYYYMMDD
dates at the start of the file names, followed by the satellite name
and the grid I operated from. You are welcome to download them and
run them through HDSDR or some other SDR software. And, yes, there
is a lot of data up in that Dropbox space. :-)

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK



On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The $20 versions are well worth the effort if you've never played with
> an SDR of any sort before.  For satellite downlinks?  Dunno, never
> tried.  Surely as you describe!
>
> Has anyone done any kind of "shoot out" comparing the cheapos to the
> real ones or even between the real ones (FCD, SDRPlay)?  Before I
> plunk down $200, I'd like to see what I'm getting ...  over and above
> what my $20 dongle can do, of course.  :-)  I read what you typed, but
> I'd like to see numbers.
>
>
>

From py2rn at arrl.net  Thu Jun 16 23:08:36 2016
From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 23:08:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160616.103044.19144.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>
	<CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <137946933.4525092.1466118516999.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

The cheap RTL dongles are as much sensible (or more) than the others more expensive.Lack of filtering is the big issue although there are some practical and easy workarounds to improve it.For ham satellites downlink frequency stability should not be an big issue, there are some models already been sold? with 0.5PPM TCXO option which are still cheap.It is a great opportunity to operate full-duplex on amateur satellites with very low investment and improving operational capabilities.
EME (Moon bounce) audible signal RX comparison between TS-2000 / RTL / FunCube Pro+ can be seen here:
https://youtu.be/3OxyO5ylwfs

73
ED ? PY2RN


      From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>
 To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 5:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
   
Hi, (name or call?)!

The inexpensive RTL-SDR dongles are a great way to get started with
SDR receivers. For amateur satellite work, other than the ISS and maybe
AO-85, they have a couple of significant drawbacks...

1. These dongles were designed to be TV receivers, working with
signals much stronger than we have from our satellites or even the
ISS ham station.

2. These dongles lack front-end filtering. This means that there could
be a strong signal near you that swamps the receiver that wipes out
what you're trying to hear. If you are trying to work satellites
full-duplex, it is possible that your transmitter will shut down
the dongle until you end your transmission. This was a problem I
experienced early on when I tried using one of these dongles as
my downlink receiver, and quickly moved on to something else.

Unfortunately there isn't anything in the middle ground between these
dongles and devices like the SDRplay (sold by HRO in the US for $149)
or the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ (sold by its UK manufacturer for around
$200 depending on exchange rates, which includes FedEx next-day
shipping from England to most addresses in the continental USA). Both
of these devices do well as the downlink receiver for working
satellites. Both come with front-end filtering that the RTL-SDR
dongles lack, and still have sensitive receivers. The SDRplay
has a low-noise amplifier that is engaged when receiving at VHF or
higher, but you can reduce the amount of gain from the built-in LNA.
For my work, I keep that gain reduction value set to 0, so I have
maximum gain to hear the downlinks.

Good luck, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK





On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:30 PM, bruisedreed at juno.com <bruisedreed at juno.com>
wrote:

> Hello all!? Been lurking a while here and just wanted to say hi and thanks
> to everyone.? Just started working the birds. VERY limited success so far
> on the linear transponders. Limited budget leads me to either have to run
> in half duplex (obviously not preferred) or come up with another low cost
> receiving option. I bought an RTL-SDR to see if it could be any help. I
> have to say I really like this little receiver. It&rsquo;s a little buggy
> figuring things out but it receives really pretty well&hellip;UNTIL I try
> to receive CW and SSB on the transponders. I have no problem receiving FM
> repeaters and simplex and have monitored a few SO50 passes with it no
> problem, but for some reason I&rsquo;m not hearing the same signals I can
> hear on the receiver of my FT100 with the EXACT same antenna. I A/B them
> and have nothing on the SDR. Is anyone using one of these? I am probably
> missing something simple. When I started receiving HF I couldn&rsquo;t make
> it work until I figured out I had
>? to change the sampeling in the setup to direct from
> quadrature&hellip;only learned that through a forum and I assume something
> like that will make the thing come to life. Lack of documentation on some
> of these things is kind of a pain. Thanks in advance for any help you can
> offer and my apologies to anyone I have frustrated working half duplex! I
> will figure out what I&rsquo;m doing!
> ____________________________________________________________
>
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From cass.hussmann at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 00:04:07 2016
From: cass.hussmann at gmail.com (Cass Hussmann)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:04:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work"
In-Reply-To: <528856269.7643560.1466103245274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <528856269.7643560.1466103245274.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Cubesat plots setup by M. Swartwout has some good information regarding the
historical success rate of cube satellites. the number was likely refering
to cube satellites in general not OSCARs specifically.

https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/home/cubesat-database
<https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/home/cubesat-database>

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:54 AM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> ARRL story quotes NASA engineer Joe Pellegrino as saying "Only Half of the
> CubeSats Deployed into Space Work" - is the failure rate really that high?
> http://www.arrl.org/news/view/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cubesats-deployed-into-space-work
>
> I've certainly noticed that a number of ISS deployed CubeSats using
> amateur frequencies which were subject to delays in the initial launch and
> then more delays before actual deployment have failed but it certainly
> didn't seem to be as high as 50%
>
> But most ISS CubeSat deployments are not on amateur frequencies e.g. over
> 100 Planet Labs Dove CubeSats have been deployed. Was the NASA engineer
> saying that half of Planet Labs satellites failed to work?
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
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From n8fgv at usa.net  Fri Jun 17 01:55:38 2016
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:55:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
Message-ID: <695uFqB3M9616S05.1466128538@web05.cms.usa.net>

I just attended a talk on Tuesday by professor Michael Swartwout of Saint
Louis University. He maintains a database of all known Cubesats at:
https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/home/cubesat-database

According to his most recent data, about 25% of recent Cubesats are dead on
arrival in orbit, and another 12% fail early in the mission. 50% of Cubesats
are classified as fully or partially successful. He attributes this mostly to
inexperienced organizations building their first satellite with little
understanding of the space environment and little or no environmental testing
before launch. A certain amount of first timer "we know everything" arrogance
also factors into that statistic. Satellites in space definitely don't work
the same as satellites on the workbench. Many of these "one and done"
organizations quit building satellites after their first failure, those
organizations that launch multiple Cubesats have much better success rates.
Experience does count for something. 

Even for tiny little Cubesats, there is a set of "best practices" that you
need to pay attention to when building your satellite. If it is your
organization's first satellite, you need to be mindful of what you don't know
and try to learn from the experience of others. 

Slides from an earlier presentation by Professor Swartwout are at:
http://nepp.nasa.gov/workshops/eeesmallmissions/talks/11%20-%20THU/1300%20-%20swartwout%20eee%20201409%20v2.pdf

I expect that this year's presentation will be posted online in a few days.

Dan Schultz N8FGV

------------Original Message------------
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:54:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka at yahoo.co.uk>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space
	Work"
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ARRL story quotes NASA engineer Joe Pellegrino as saying "Only Half of the
CubeSats Deployed into Space Work" - is the failure rate really that
high?http://www.arrl.org/news/view/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cub
esats-deployed-into-space-work

I've certainly noticed that a number of ISS deployed CubeSats using amateur
frequencies which were subject to delays in the initial launch and then more
delays before actual deployment have failed but it certainly didn't seem to
be
as high as 50%

But most ISS CubeSat deployments are not on amateur frequencies e.g. over 100
Planet Labs Dove CubeSats have been deployed. Was the NASA engineer saying
that
half of Planet Labs satellites failed to work? 

73 Trevor M5AKA




From plaws0 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 02:08:34 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:08:34 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
In-Reply-To: <695uFqB3M9616S05.1466128538@web05.cms.usa.net>
References: <695uFqB3M9616S05.1466128538@web05.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ_Ed1nu1GFpo2=WZxCMtpeqNbpY-E6rE4ir08-+ByMyGQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Daniel Schultz <n8fgv at usa.net> wrote:
> . 50% of Cubesats
> are classified as fully or partially successful.


Given that so many are built by people who are *not* *actually* rocket
scientists, 50% success seems pretty good.  I mean, it's not like
there are astronauts on them -- failure can be an option -- but it
would be prudent for organizations to keep that 50% thing in mind.
Hopefully lessens the disappointment.


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From afeller at ieee.org  Fri Jun 17 03:18:34 2016
From: afeller at ieee.org (Arthur Feller)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 23:18:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ_Ed1nu1GFpo2=WZxCMtpeqNbpY-E6rE4ir08-+ByMyGQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CANVAiQ_Ed1nu1GFpo2=WZxCMtpeqNbpY-E6rE4ir08-+ByMyGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57823D3E-4614-408B-AEE5-7A9AD36CBD7F@ieee.org>

Oh, please.  Expending all the time, effort, and money to do a project, at least try to do it right instead of launching a rock (aka space litter).  Someone else working harder can use the opportunity wasted by poor quality work.

Failure is an option to be avoided insofar as possible.  Just ask AMSAT developers and builders.

73, art?..
W4ART  Arlington VA


> On 16-Jun-2016, at 10:08 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Daniel Schultz <n8fgv at usa.net> wrote:
>> . 50% of Cubesats
>> are classified as fully or partially successful.
> 
> 
> Given that so many are built by people who are *not* *actually* rocket
> scientists, 50% success seems pretty good.  I mean, it's not like
> there are astronauts on them -- failure can be an option -- but it
> would be prudent for organizations to keep that 50% thing in mind.
> Hopefully lessens the disappointment.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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From va6bmj at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 04:14:09 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 04:14:09 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
In-Reply-To: <57823D3E-4614-408B-AEE5-7A9AD36CBD7F@ieee.org>
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On 6/17/16, Arthur Feller <afeller at ieee.org> wrote:
> Oh, please.  Expending all the time, effort, and money to do a project, at
> least try to do it right instead of launching a rock (aka space litter).
> Someone else working harder can use the opportunity wasted by poor quality
> work.
>
> Failure is an option to be avoided insofar as possible.  Just ask AMSAT
> developers and builders.

<snip>

Two years ago, I offered to help some engineering students with their
cubesat project.  I figured that my experience in satellite operations
as a ham plus having worked in the business for a while as an
engineer, they would welcome what I had to say.

All I had was 3 meetings and I never heard from them again.  I guess
they had all the answers and didn't need the advice of a silverback
like me.

I have no idea of they finished it or, if they did, if it even works.
I don't think it'll be going into space any time soon, though, as the
launch firm that I think they wanted to use may not even have a
rocket.  I told them that as well, but I guess they knew everything
better.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From rico.van.genugten at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 07:02:47 2016
From: rico.van.genugten at gmail.com (Rico van Genugten)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:02:47 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
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Hi all,

I am using RTL-SDR's for downlink reception for quite some time now. I've
got one from the rtl-sdr blog in aluminum casing with TCXO. I can hear the
downlinks of pretty much all the LEO's (except SO-50) fine with it using
indoor antennas. In my experience it is easier copying the downlinks of
linear birds, as the required SNR for a copyable signal in SSB is lower.

I can also successfully decode ISS APRS packets using a vertical, RTL-SDR,
GQRX and direwolf, so that makes for a very cheap ISS APRS receive setup.
Note: the gnuradio FM demodulator in GQRX works way better than rtl_fm,
using the latter I cannot decode any packets. GQRX is pretty CPU-hungry
though, so a Raspberry Pi solution would be tricky. (/offtopic)

As others said, the RTL-SDR has no front-end filtering and therefore
terrible desense, furthermore it has a pretty low dynamic range, so full
duplex operation is not possible. Nonetheless I've made a couple of QSO's
via AO-85 using the RTL-SDR on the receiving end, just ignoring the audio
when TXing.

I have an AirSpy Mini on order now, I'm curious how it will perform with
nearby TXing. AFAIK it doesn't have any front-end filtering like the
SDRPlay or FunCube dongles have, but the dynamic range is way bigger than
the RTL-SDR's, so hopefully it will still perform a lot better. Otherwise
I'll have to build some filters.

Regards,
Rico PA3RVG

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:08 AM, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:

> The cheap RTL dongles are as much sensible (or more) than the others more
> expensive.Lack of filtering is the big issue although there are some
> practical and easy workarounds to improve it.For ham satellites downlink
> frequency stability should not be an big issue, there are some models
> already been sold  with 0.5PPM TCXO option which are still cheap.It is a
> great opportunity to operate full-duplex on amateur satellites with very
> low investment and improving operational capabilities.
> EME (Moon bounce) audible signal RX comparison between TS-2000 / RTL /
> FunCube Pro+ can be seen here:
> https://youtu.be/3OxyO5ylwfs
>
> 73
> ED   PY2RN
>
>
>       From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>
>  To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 5:22 PM
>  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
>
> Hi, (name or call?)!
>
> The inexpensive RTL-SDR dongles are a great way to get started with
> SDR receivers. For amateur satellite work, other than the ISS and maybe
> AO-85, they have a couple of significant drawbacks...
>
> 1. These dongles were designed to be TV receivers, working with
> signals much stronger than we have from our satellites or even the
> ISS ham station.
>
> 2. These dongles lack front-end filtering. This means that there could
> be a strong signal near you that swamps the receiver that wipes out
> what you're trying to hear. If you are trying to work satellites
> full-duplex, it is possible that your transmitter will shut down
> the dongle until you end your transmission. This was a problem I
> experienced early on when I tried using one of these dongles as
> my downlink receiver, and quickly moved on to something else.
>
> Unfortunately there isn't anything in the middle ground between these
> dongles and devices like the SDRplay (sold by HRO in the US for $149)
> or the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ (sold by its UK manufacturer for around
> $200 depending on exchange rates, which includes FedEx next-day
> shipping from England to most addresses in the continental USA). Both
> of these devices do well as the downlink receiver for working
> satellites. Both come with front-end filtering that the RTL-SDR
> dongles lack, and still have sensitive receivers. The SDRplay
> has a low-noise amplifier that is engaged when receiving at VHF or
> higher, but you can reduce the amount of gain from the built-in LNA.
> For my work, I keep that gain reduction value set to 0, so I have
> maximum gain to hear the downlinks.
>
> Good luck, and 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:30 PM, bruisedreed at juno.com <
> bruisedreed at juno.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all!  Been lurking a while here and just wanted to say hi and
> thanks
> > to everyone.  Just started working the birds. VERY limited success so far
> > on the linear transponders. Limited budget leads me to either have to run
> > in half duplex (obviously not preferred) or come up with another low cost
> > receiving option. I bought an RTL-SDR to see if it could be any help. I
> > have to say I really like this little receiver. It&rsquo;s a little buggy
> > figuring things out but it receives really pretty well&hellip;UNTIL I try
> > to receive CW and SSB on the transponders. I have no problem receiving FM
> > repeaters and simplex and have monitored a few SO50 passes with it no
> > problem, but for some reason I&rsquo;m not hearing the same signals I can
> > hear on the receiver of my FT100 with the EXACT same antenna. I A/B them
> > and have nothing on the SDR. Is anyone using one of these? I am probably
> > missing something simple. When I started receiving HF I couldn&rsquo;t
> make
> > it work until I figured out I had
> >  to change the sampeling in the setup to direct from
> > quadrature&hellip;only learned that through a forum and I assume
> something
> > like that will make the thing come to life. Lack of documentation on some
> > of these things is kind of a pain. Thanks in advance for any help you can
> > offer and my apologies to anyone I have frustrated working half duplex! I
> > will figure out what I&rsquo;m doing!
> > ____________________________________________________________
> >
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun 17 07:44:42 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:44:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
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Thanks, 

The figures from the chart show 14.8% of CubeSats fail to work on Deployment and 8% cease working shortly after Deployment.

A long way from the claimed 50% of those CubeSats actually Deployed in space don't work.
73 Trevor M5AKA


 

  


   

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Fri Jun 17 08:01:13 2016
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:01:13 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
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Hi Dan

Many thanks for the link. It certainly makes interesting reading...at the bottom of his database is a further link to his 2016 presentation https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/swartwout_cubesat_workshop_20160420.pdf?attredirects=0 that you mention.

Can we, collectively, come up with a better name than "Hobbyists" that he shows in slide 3? 

73

Graham
G3VZV

-----Original Message----- 
From: Daniel Schultz 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:55 AM 
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work 

I just attended a talk on Tuesday by professor Michael Swartwout of Saint
Louis University. He maintains a database of all known Cubesats at:
https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/home/cubesat-database

According to his most recent data, about 25% of recent Cubesats are dead on
arrival in orbit, and another 12% fail early in the mission. 50% of Cubesats
are classified as fully or partially successful. He attributes this mostly to
inexperienced organizations building their first satellite with little
understanding of the space environment and little or no environmental testing
before launch. A certain amount of first timer "we know everything" arrogance
also factors into that statistic. Satellites in space definitely don't work
the same as satellites on the workbench. Many of these "one and done"
organizations quit building satellites after their first failure, those
organizations that launch multiple Cubesats have much better success rates.
Experience does count for something. 

Even for tiny little Cubesats, there is a set of "best practices" that you
need to pay attention to when building your satellite. If it is your
organization's first satellite, you need to be mindful of what you don't know
and try to learn from the experience of others. 

Slides from an earlier presentation by Professor Swartwout are at:
http://nepp.nasa.gov/workshops/eeesmallmissions/talks/11%20-%20THU/1300%20-%20swartwout%20eee%20201409%20v2.pdf

I expect that this year's presentation will be posted online in a few days.

Dan Schultz N8FGV

------------Original Message------------
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:54:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka at yahoo.co.uk>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space
Work"
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

ARRL story quotes NASA engineer Joe Pellegrino as saying "Only Half of the
CubeSats Deployed into Space Work" - is the failure rate really that
high?http://www.arrl.org/news/view/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cub
esats-deployed-into-space-work

I've certainly noticed that a number of ISS deployed CubeSats using amateur
frequencies which were subject to delays in the initial launch and then more
delays before actual deployment have failed but it certainly didn't seem to
be
as high as 50%

But most ISS CubeSat deployments are not on amateur frequencies e.g. over 100
Planet Labs Dove CubeSats have been deployed. Was the NASA engineer saying
that
half of Planet Labs satellites failed to work? 

73 Trevor M5AKA



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From skristof at etczone.com  Fri Jun 17 13:17:29 2016
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Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:17:29 -0400
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Please give the reference for "the claimed 50% of those CubeSats
actually Deployed in space don't work". 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-06-17 03:44, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote:

> Thanks, 
> 
> The figures from the chart show 14.8% of CubeSats fail to work on Deployment and 8% cease working shortly after Deployment.
> 
> A long way from the claimed 50% of those CubeSats actually Deployed in space don't work.
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> 
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From skristof at etczone.com  Fri Jun 17 13:28:26 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:28:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
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What is the problem with using the term "hobbyist"? Amateur radio is a
hobby. Nothing wrong with that. 

A person may take his/her hobby so seriously that they neglect work,
friends, and family, but if you're not getting paid for it, it's still a
hobby. 

Hobbyists can still do good work in their field of interest. Amateur
astronomers (hobbyists) are making significant contributions to
astronomical knowledge all the time. 

Check out hamsci.org to see how amateur radio hobbyists can help with
ionospheric science. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-06-17 04:01, Graham Shirville wrote:

> Hi Dan
> 
> Many thanks for the link. It certainly makes interesting reading...at the bottom of his database is a further link to his 2016 presentation https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/swartwout_cubesat_workshop_20160420.pdf?attredirects=0 that you mention.
> 
> Can we, collectively, come up with a better name than "Hobbyists" that he shows in slide 3? 
> 
> 73
> 
> Graham
> G3VZV
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Daniel Schultz 
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:55 AM 
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work 
> 
> I just attended a talk on Tuesday by professor Michael Swartwout of Saint
> Louis University. He maintains a database of all known Cubesats at:
> https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/home/cubesat-database
> 
> According to his most recent data, about 25% of recent Cubesats are dead on
> arrival in orbit, and another 12% fail early in the mission. 50% of Cubesats
> are classified as fully or partially successful. He attributes this mostly to
> inexperienced organizations building their first satellite with little
> understanding of the space environment and little or no environmental testing
> before launch. A certain amount of first timer "we know everything" arrogance
> also factors into that statistic. Satellites in space definitely don't work
> the same as satellites on the workbench. Many of these "one and done"
> organizations quit building satellites after their first failure, those
> organizations that launch multiple Cubesats have much better success rates.
> Experience does count for something. 
> 
> Even for tiny little Cubesats, there is a set of "best practices" that you
> need to pay attention to when building your satellite. If it is your
> organization's first satellite, you need to be mindful of what you don't know
> and try to learn from the experience of others. 
> 
> Slides from an earlier presentation by Professor Swartwout are at:
> http://nepp.nasa.gov/workshops/eeesmallmissions/talks/11%20-%20THU/1300%20-%20swartwout%20eee%20201409%20v2.pdf
> 
> I expect that this year's presentation will be posted online in a few days.
> 
> Dan Schultz N8FGV
> 
> ------------Original Message------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:54:05 +0000 (UTC)
> From: M5AKA <m5aka at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] "Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space
> Work"
> Message-ID:
> <528856269.7643560.1466103245274.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> ARRL story quotes NASA engineer Joe Pellegrino as saying "Only Half of the
> CubeSats Deployed into Space Work" - is the failure rate really that
> high?http://www.arrl.org/news/view/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cub
> esats-deployed-into-space-work
> 
> I've certainly noticed that a number of ISS deployed CubeSats using amateur
> frequencies which were subject to delays in the initial launch and then more
> delays before actual deployment have failed but it certainly didn't seem to
> be
> as high as 50%
> 
> But most ISS CubeSat deployments are not on amateur frequencies e.g. over 100
> Planet Labs Dove CubeSats have been deployed. Was the NASA engineer saying
> that
> half of Planet Labs satellites failed to work? 
> 
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> 
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From gaston.bertels at skynet.be  Fri Jun 17 15:58:34 2016
From: gaston.bertels at skynet.be (Gaston Bertels)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:58:34 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
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Message-ID: <em33c5fec3-f539-4b80-8474-e8372ed703ee@acer8>

"Hobbyists" is correct, but often negatively connoted.

"Radio experimenters" describes what we do, be it DX-ing or building 
satellites.

Gaston ON4WF






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Envoy? 17-06-16 13:28:26
Objet : Re: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space 
Work

>What is the problem with using the term "hobbyist"? Amateur radio is a
>hobby. Nothing wrong with that.
>
>A person may take his/her hobby so seriously that they neglect work,
>friends, and family, but if you're not getting paid for it, it's still 
>a
>hobby.
>
>Hobbyists can still do good work in their field of interest. Amateur
>astronomers (hobbyists) are making significant contributions to
>astronomical knowledge all the time.
>
>Check out hamsci.org to see how amateur radio hobbyists can help with
>ionospheric science.
>
>Steve AI9IN
>
>On 2016-06-17 04:01, Graham Shirville wrote:
>
>>  Hi Dan
>>
>>  Many thanks for the link. It certainly makes interesting reading...at 
>>the bottom of his database is a further link to his 2016 presentation 
>>https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/swartwout_cubesat_workshop_20160420.pdf?attredirects=0 
>>that you mention.
>>
>>  Can we, collectively, come up with a better name than "Hobbyists" 
>>that he shows in slide 3?
>>
>>  73
>>
>>  Graham
>>  G3VZV
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Daniel Schultz
>>  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:55 AM
>>  To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space 
>>Work
>>
>>  I just attended a talk on Tuesday by professor Michael Swartwout of 
>>Saint
>>  Louis University. He maintains a database of all known Cubesats at:
>>  https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/home/cubesat-database
>>
>>  According to his most recent data, about 25% of recent Cubesats are 
>>dead on
>>  arrival in orbit, and another 12% fail early in the mission. 50% of 
>>Cubesats
>>  are classified as fully or partially successful. He attributes this 
>>mostly to
>>  inexperienced organizations building their first satellite with 
>>little
>>  understanding of the space environment and little or no environmental 
>>testing
>>  before launch. A certain amount of first timer "we know everything" 
>>arrogance
>>  also factors into that statistic. Satellites in space definitely 
>>don't work
>>  the same as satellites on the workbench. Many of these "one and done"
>>  organizations quit building satellites after their first failure, 
>>those
>>  organizations that launch multiple Cubesats have much better success 
>>rates.
>>  Experience does count for something.
>>
>>  Even for tiny little Cubesats, there is a set of "best practices" 
>>that you
>>  need to pay attention to when building your satellite. If it is your
>>  organization's first satellite, you need to be mindful of what you 
>>don't know
>>  and try to learn from the experience of others.
>>
>>  Slides from an earlier presentation by Professor Swartwout are at:
>>  
>>http://nepp.nasa.gov/workshops/eeesmallmissions/talks/11%20-%20THU/1300%20-%20swartwout%20eee%20201409%20v2.pdf
>>
>>  I expect that this year's presentation will be posted online in a few 
>>days.
>>
>>  Dan Schultz N8FGV
>>
>>  ------------Original Message------------
>>  Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:54:05 +0000 (UTC)
>>  From: M5AKA <m5aka at yahoo.co.uk>
>>  To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>  Subject: [amsat-bb] "Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space
>>  Work"
>>  Message-ID:
>>  <528856269.7643560.1466103245274.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>>  ARRL story quotes NASA engineer Joe Pellegrino as saying "Only Half 
>>of the
>>  CubeSats Deployed into Space Work" - is the failure rate really that
>>  
>>high?http://www.arrl.org/news/view/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cub
>>  esats-deployed-into-space-work
>>
>>  I've certainly noticed that a number of ISS deployed CubeSats using 
>>amateur
>>  frequencies which were subject to delays in the initial launch and 
>>then more
>>  delays before actual deployment have failed but it certainly didn't 
>>seem to
>>  be
>>  as high as 50%
>>
>>  But most ISS CubeSat deployments are not on amateur frequencies e.g. 
>>over 100
>>  Planet Labs Dove CubeSats have been deployed. Was the NASA engineer 
>>saying
>>  that
>>  half of Planet Labs satellites failed to work?
>>
>>  73 Trevor M5AKA
>>
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun 17 13:59:29 2016
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	<12cd31813014885c386fe1b04cb94882@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <1790478911.8427855.1466171969266.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

> Please give the reference for "the claimed 50% of those CubeSats actually Deployed in space don't work".
ARRL story http://www.arrl.org/news/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cubesats-deployed-into-space-work
Joe Pellegrino STMSAT-1 Mission Manager https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1wUmAxZJJoMUElNLWQyYktCcHc/view

73 Trevor M5AKA
 

    On Friday, 17 June 2016, 14:17, "skristof at etczone.com" <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
 

 Please give the reference for "the claimed 50% of those CubeSats
actually Deployed in space don't work". 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-06-17 03:44, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote:

> Thanks, 
> 
> The figures from the chart show 14.8% of CubeSats fail to work on Deployment and 8% cease working shortly after Deployment.
> 
> A long way from the claimed 50% of those CubeSats actually Deployed in space don't work.
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> 
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From gregv at ccroanoke.com  Fri Jun 17 14:16:10 2016
From: gregv at ccroanoke.com (Greg Van Scott)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:16:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
Message-ID: <4CCE1C7D-8DCE-4714-906D-B6698EA85B69@ccroanoke.com>

	
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.  I figured a bunch had to have tried the same thing as me!  I have noted pretty much all of the drawbacks already mentioned (poor supression of strong signals?uplink wiping out downlink receiver etc.) Thankfully I am not in an RF rich environment, so I am going to continue to mess around and try some options.  I have to say, for a modest investment there are a lot of really good applications for this little receiver.  Nice way to experiment anyway.  Mine has the upconverter in it so I have HF/VHF/UHF.  Really handy little tool.  If nothing else I can have a visual on where the signals are during a satellite pass or can decode telemetry.  Thanks for all the input.  This is what I love about amateur radio!  Lots of really smart people out there that are willing to lend a hand.

Greg WZ2N

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Fri Jun 17 16:16:36 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:16:36 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
In-Reply-To: <137946933.4525092.1466118516999.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20160616.103044.19144.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>
	<CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<137946933.4525092.1466118516999.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hello, Ed!

Thanks for your reply! If I had my satellite station in a proper ham
shack, where the radios are inside and antennas are outside (or
the antennas are not within a few feet or a couple of meters of
the radios), it is possible that the house or building may be enough
to keep the transmitter from affecting the RTL-SDR dongles.
I don't have that option for working satellites, even when I am at
home. My antenna is always within a few feet or a couple of meters
of my radios, both transmit and receive. Putting the dongle in
a case with some shielding, and maybe adding some filters in front
of the dongle, could make that work in my situation. Between the
time and money needed to do that, I think I'm doing fine when I use
a FUNcube Dongle Pro+ or SDRplay. In fact, whenever I move to a place
where I can install a proper satellite station in the house,
with antennas outside and the radios inside, I know my existing
SDR receivers (FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and SDRplay) should work fine
in that environment as they have when I've worked portable.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK



On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:

> The cheap RTL dongles are as much sensible (or more) than the others more
> expensive.Lack of filtering is the big issue although there are some
> practical and easy workarounds to improve it.For ham satellites downlink
> frequency stability should not be an big issue, there are some models
> already been sold  with 0.5PPM TCXO option which are still cheap.It is a
> great opportunity to operate full-duplex on amateur satellites with very
> low investment and improving operational capabilities.
> EME (Moon bounce) audible signal RX comparison between TS-2000 / RTL /
> FunCube Pro+ can be seen here:
> https://youtu.be/3OxyO5ylwfs
>
> 73
> ED   PY2RN
>

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 16:18:12 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:18:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
In-Reply-To: <12cd31813014885c386fe1b04cb94882@etczone.com>
References: <695uFqB3M9616S05.1466128538@web05.cms.usa.net>
	<CANVAiQ_Ed1nu1GFpo2=WZxCMtpeqNbpY-E6rE4ir08-+ByMyGQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1026481493.8038459.1466149482661.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<12cd31813014885c386fe1b04cb94882@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPFMK85jPMmxG6P_vZaBcFn1HD+eSOBiEbBtNuPb2uvrQ@mail.gmail.com>

I believe the original reference that started this thread is this pdf:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1wUmAxZJJoMUElNLWQyYktCcHc/view?usp=docslist_api
On Jun 17, 2016 9:17 AM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> Please give the reference for "the claimed 50% of those CubeSats
> actually Deployed in space don't work".
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2016-06-17 03:44, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > The figures from the chart show 14.8% of CubeSats fail to work on
> Deployment and 8% cease working shortly after Deployment.
> >
> > A long way from the claimed 50% of those CubeSats actually Deployed in
> space don't work.
> > 73 Trevor M5AKA
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> expressed
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From w5pfg at amsat.org  Fri Jun 17 16:26:48 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:26:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
In-Reply-To: <1790478911.8427855.1466171969266.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <695uFqB3M9616S05.1466128538@web05.cms.usa.net>
	<CANVAiQ_Ed1nu1GFpo2=WZxCMtpeqNbpY-E6rE4ir08-+ByMyGQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1026481493.8038459.1466149482661.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<12cd31813014885c386fe1b04cb94882@etczone.com>
	<1790478911.8427855.1466171969266.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <613abddc-e49a-087f-5e0d-082f80b84df8@amsat.org>

I've enjoyed watching some of the news published about STMSat-1.  There 
was some false hope about it being off frequency (by 500 kHz!,) some 
story of "rebooting the satellite," and a lack of command and control 
capability.  I attribute this to some of their social media posters not 
actually vetting their content with the project's technical champion(s). 
Thankfully the children of the STM School have been able to learn a 
great deal from this project and its sponsors deserve kudos.

In general, many of the amateur or CubeSat projects don't have much 
Public Relations scope beyond a webpage or Facebook.  Some groups are 
starting to get into Twitter.  Having a presence in social media or on 
the web is great.  However, if you don't have an educated representative 
posting or at minimum reviewing content, the followers grow weary and 
start to question things.  This leads to a negative PR fiasco.

It is nice to see more groups posting updates on their respective 
project pages and social media.  Anything done to promote the hobby and 
bolster amateur experimentation is a win for the AMSAT community.

73
Clayton
W5PFG


On 6/17/2016 08:59, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> ARRL story http://www.arrl.org/news/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cubesats-deployed-into-space-work
> Joe Pellegrino STMSAT-1 Mission Manager https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1wUmAxZJJoMUElNLWQyYktCcHc/view
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA

From rwmcgwier at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 17:59:00 2016
From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:59:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work"
In-Reply-To: <CAHno9EevL_S4v7U7dj=daZRP7GohcFzTi9AjjyHotqQw8FpR-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <528856269.7643560.1466103245274.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<528856269.7643560.1466103245274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAHno9EevL_S4v7U7dj=daZRP7GohcFzTi9AjjyHotqQw8FpR-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+K5gze8zzT8HgufW_rinUszSSzBta51r65-ZAgrbakpE0J9uw@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent page.  Notice the number of commercial cubesats exploding....



On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Cass Hussmann <cass.hussmann at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Cubesat plots setup by M. Swartwout has some good information regarding the
> historical success rate of cube satellites. the number was likely refering
> to cube satellites in general not OSCARs specifically.
>
> https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/home/cubesat-database
> <https://sites.google.com/a/slu.edu/swartwout/home/cubesat-database>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:54 AM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> wrote:
>
> > ARRL story quotes NASA engineer Joe Pellegrino as saying "Only Half of
> the
> > CubeSats Deployed into Space Work" - is the failure rate really that
> high?
> >
> http://www.arrl.org/news/view/stmsat-1-youngsters-told-only-half-of-the-cubesats-deployed-into-space-work
> >
> > I've certainly noticed that a number of ISS deployed CubeSats using
> > amateur frequencies which were subject to delays in the initial launch
> and
> > then more delays before actual deployment have failed but it certainly
> > didn't seem to be as high as 50%
> >
> > But most ISS CubeSat deployments are not on amateur frequencies e.g. over
> > 100 Planet Labs Dove CubeSats have been deployed. Was the NASA engineer
> > saying that half of Planet Labs satellites failed to work?
> >
> > 73 Trevor M5AKA
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cass Hussmann, BENG
> *Chief Engineer*
> *UVic ECOSat Team*
> ecosat.ca
> Tel: 778-410-2414 (ext 1001)
> Personal Tel: 778-679-6695
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-- 
Bob McGwier
Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
Research Professor Virginia Tech
Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
Technology
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
Director of AMSAT

From rwmcgwier at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 18:00:42 2016
From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:00:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160616.103044.19144.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>
	<CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+K5gzd83ckmk4TWhP=s4R-QFLM219vk78a9Luc4M42MC38ELw@mail.gmail.com>

Outside of my back window is Poor Mountain.  I can see two television
towers,  two FM radio stations, three paging transmitters, .....

The RTL-SDR is absolutely useless, period, even on a paper clip antenna
without filtering.

Bob
N4HY


On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:

> Hi, (name or call?)!
>
> The inexpensive RTL-SDR dongles are a great way to get started with
> SDR receivers. For amateur satellite work, other than the ISS and maybe
> AO-85, they have a couple of significant drawbacks...
>
> 1. These dongles were designed to be TV receivers, working with
> signals much stronger than we have from our satellites or even the
> ISS ham station.
>
> 2. These dongles lack front-end filtering. This means that there could
> be a strong signal near you that swamps the receiver that wipes out
> what you're trying to hear. If you are trying to work satellites
> full-duplex, it is possible that your transmitter will shut down
> the dongle until you end your transmission. This was a problem I
> experienced early on when I tried using one of these dongles as
> my downlink receiver, and quickly moved on to something else.
>
> Unfortunately there isn't anything in the middle ground between these
> dongles and devices like the SDRplay (sold by HRO in the US for $149)
> or the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ (sold by its UK manufacturer for around
> $200 depending on exchange rates, which includes FedEx next-day
> shipping from England to most addresses in the continental USA). Both
> of these devices do well as the downlink receiver for working
> satellites. Both come with front-end filtering that the RTL-SDR
> dongles lack, and still have sensitive receivers. The SDRplay
> has a low-noise amplifier that is engaged when receiving at VHF or
> higher, but you can reduce the amount of gain from the built-in LNA.
> For my work, I keep that gain reduction value set to 0, so I have
> maximum gain to hear the downlinks.
>
> Good luck, and 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:30 PM, bruisedreed at juno.com <
> bruisedreed at juno.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all!  Been lurking a while here and just wanted to say hi and
> thanks
> > to everyone.  Just started working the birds. VERY limited success so far
> > on the linear transponders. Limited budget leads me to either have to run
> > in half duplex (obviously not preferred) or come up with another low cost
> > receiving option. I bought an RTL-SDR to see if it could be any help. I
> > have to say I really like this little receiver. It&rsquo;s a little buggy
> > figuring things out but it receives really pretty well&hellip;UNTIL I try
> > to receive CW and SSB on the transponders. I have no problem receiving FM
> > repeaters and simplex and have monitored a few SO50 passes with it no
> > problem, but for some reason I&rsquo;m not hearing the same signals I can
> > hear on the receiver of my FT100 with the EXACT same antenna. I A/B them
> > and have nothing on the SDR. Is anyone using one of these? I am probably
> > missing something simple. When I started receiving HF I couldn&rsquo;t
> make
> > it work until I figured out I had
> >   to change the sampeling in the setup to direct from
> > quadrature&hellip;only learned that through a forum and I assume
> something
> > like that will make the thing come to life. Lack of documentation on some
> > of these things is kind of a pain. Thanks in advance for any help you can
> > offer and my apologies to anyone I have frustrated working half duplex! I
> > will figure out what I&rsquo;m doing!
> > ____________________________________________________________
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>



-- 
Bob McGwier
Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
Research Professor Virginia Tech
Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
Technology
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
Director of AMSAT

From rwmcgwier at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 18:16:19 2016
From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:16:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
In-Reply-To: <695uFqB3M9616S05.1466128538@web05.cms.usa.net>
References: <695uFqB3M9616S05.1466128538@web05.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <CA+K5gzcrupt4ZNB7MpCpkyNh1BVt2ubEhNFnSRxGtb83hSQeRw@mail.gmail.com>

Nothing would be more embarrassing to me than to be one of the cockiest
schools in the United States, thinking that any student that goes there is
highly superior to any other around,  and then to have Lockheed Martin help
them.....  and to never be heard from at all after launch...   That would
not be in the state I am in so that I don't get in trouble with the
government of the state I am in.....

Space is a mean nasty place.  Hard Vacuum, very energetic particles
slamming you, micrometeorites and space junk clobbering, computers
GUARANTEED to get into a failure mode, with probability 1.  And then what
do you do?  Most don't know. Only experience tells you how not to have a
dead computer or one acting in  a stupid way and how to fix it.

Everyone fails.  Ask AMSAT.  Our spacecraft have gotten better, less
complex, but better at achieving the mission without failures.

Our big efforts all were partially successful or failed at launch or are
Microsats.  The Microsats succeeded, 100%.   What a team we had.  It was
made up of people who did things like, oh, coin the word cubesat and
introduce the concept to the world,    go on to be worth hundreds of
millions of dollars and in at least one case, probably billions,  work at
the highest possible levels of government in highly technical fields and
then start multiple companies on retirement, .....  some even still work in
the Aerospace industry.  Best team ever:  Microsat team.   Best technical
individual on any AMSAT team ever: Karl Meinzer.

The formula for success is good people with time to do the job right with
luck and resources.  Have good people who are dedicated to the task and
then get lots of free help.

The US government gave us environmental testing for Microsat.  They wanted
to make sure the team could test their spacecraft (we were the test dummys)
 which was in the chamber next  to us. I know who paid for it and what it
was and if I told you I would have to kill you ;-).

Children in high school with teachers who might know how to spell the word
spacecraft and hold a smartphone are not capable of the level of technical
expertise needed.

Things are getting better.  You can just buy a good spacecraft now.  It
costs about 2-3 times as much as building one.  With a 50% chance of
failure, that means you should buy the thing and even then your payload is
likely to fail with a perfectly functional bus.

Bob
N4HY


?

From kq6ea at verizon.net  Fri Jun 17 18:25:36 2016
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:25:36 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
In-Reply-To: <CA+K5gzcrupt4ZNB7MpCpkyNh1BVt2ubEhNFnSRxGtb83hSQeRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <695uFqB3M9616S05.1466128538@web05.cms.usa.net>
	<CA+K5gzcrupt4ZNB7MpCpkyNh1BVt2ubEhNFnSRxGtb83hSQeRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <576440A0.5050408@verizon.net>

Yep, space is evil, mean, and nasty to things we put there.

And getting there is NOT "half the fun".

And yet people stepped up and did very hard, painstaking work to "get it 
right".

And they all did it for free, out of love of the "hobby".

The truest meaning of the word "Amateur".

I applaud them all, and thank them for being the trailblazers.

73, Jim  KQ6EA


On 06/17/2016 06:16 PM, Robert McGwier wrote:
> Nothing would be more embarrassing to me than to be one of the cockiest
> schools in the United States, thinking that any student that goes there is
> highly superior to any other around,  and then to have Lockheed Martin help
> them.....  and to never be heard from at all after launch...   That would
> not be in the state I am in so that I don't get in trouble with the
> government of the state I am in.....
>
> Space is a mean nasty place.  Hard Vacuum, very energetic particles
> slamming you, micrometeorites and space junk clobbering, computers
> GUARANTEED to get into a failure mode, with probability 1.  And then what
> do you do?  Most don't know. Only experience tells you how not to have a
> dead computer or one acting in  a stupid way and how to fix it.
>
> Everyone fails.  Ask AMSAT.  Our spacecraft have gotten better, less
> complex, but better at achieving the mission without failures.
>
> Our big efforts all were partially successful or failed at launch or are
> Microsats.  The Microsats succeeded, 100%.   What a team we had.  It was
> made up of people who did things like, oh, coin the word cubesat and
> introduce the concept to the world,    go on to be worth hundreds of
> millions of dollars and in at least one case, probably billions,  work at
> the highest possible levels of government in highly technical fields and
> then start multiple companies on retirement, .....  some even still work in
> the Aerospace industry.  Best team ever:  Microsat team.   Best technical
> individual on any AMSAT team ever: Karl Meinzer.
>
> The formula for success is good people with time to do the job right with
> luck and resources.  Have good people who are dedicated to the task and
> then get lots of free help.
>
> The US government gave us environmental testing for Microsat.  They wanted
> to make sure the team could test their spacecraft (we were the test dummys)
>   which was in the chamber next  to us. I know who paid for it and what it
> was and if I told you I would have to kill you ;-).
>
> Children in high school with teachers who might know how to spell the word
> spacecraft and hold a smartphone are not capable of the level of technical
> expertise needed.
>
> Things are getting better.  You can just buy a good spacecraft now.  It
> costs about 2-3 times as much as building one.  With a 50% chance of
> failure, that means you should buy the thing and even then your payload is
> likely to fail with a perfectly functional bus.
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>
> ?
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Fri Jun 17 18:46:58 2016
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:46:58 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 weekend operations
Message-ID: <F7556447C5214D54B63295B4A905269C@allgood.local>

Hi all,

Just report that FUNcube-1 now has the transponder continuously operational for the weekend.

73

Graham
G3VZV 

From kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org  Fri Jun 17 18:54:04 2016
From: kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org (Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:54:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>

I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.  Given
that there is always the possibility of something going wrong along the way
I was sorely disappointed that it happened to THIS one.  I'm sure that
someday AMSAT will give us a long period orbit bird, standing by -- antennas
dusted off...  It would be nice, but probably not practical given the huge
workload of the ISS crew, that they could send the major parts up in
sections and have it assembled there and then pushed out the airlock to be
launched.  Yes, I know "Welcome to Fantasy Island!"

Kevin, WB5RUE
I am Voltohn of Borg, resistance is E/I, you will be attenuated!



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
McGwier
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:16 PM
To: amsat bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B

Neglect the "First geosynchronous" article. I did not write it and it is
like all mistakes, firmly in archives and not fixable.

http://www.hume.vt.edu/geo/

73s
Bob


--
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Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia
Tech Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security
and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty
Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT
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From WB4SON at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 19:00:36 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:00:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 Transponder Schedule
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ9YsYE9nqNz1Mx+Ma_MZQGK_W_E0pkL=bwBcv8POpkt8A@mail.gmail.com>

Now that the transponder is switched on will it be on 24/7 or does it shift
to data

73 WB4SON

From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun 17 19:04:54 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:04:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 Transponder Schedule
In-Reply-To: <CAPonRZ9YsYE9nqNz1Mx+Ma_MZQGK_W_E0pkL=bwBcv8POpkt8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPonRZ9YsYE9nqNz1Mx+Ma_MZQGK_W_E0pkL=bwBcv8POpkt8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrEt9gzftELE_HOmyU94FVm3aQ-fc7zBP+qR9LNThbBLg@mail.gmail.com>

The FUNcube-2 telemetry beacon is also on and very strong. It has been
on continuously since yesterday. I've worked it on both day and night
passes.

There was what appeared to be a reset on the first pass this afternoon
where the transponder switched off midpass for a few seconds.

In addition, the CW beacon from the satellite's primary transceiver
desenses the transponder uplink for about 20 seconds or so when it's
transmitting.

The uplink offset appears to be anywhere from +12 - +15 kHz from published.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that the transponder is switched on will it be on 24/7 or does it shift
> to data
>
> 73 WB4SON
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun 17 19:09:08 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:09:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqN5XV_5bj5+UZrvfmEHPp8Z3hRLH9KErcQA2wHVnx9aA@mail.gmail.com>

If we could afford to pay astronauts to assemble a HEO, then we could
afford to launch six of them to GTO without bothering.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
<kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.  Given
> that there is always the possibility of something going wrong along the way
> I was sorely disappointed that it happened to THIS one.  I'm sure that
> someday AMSAT will give us a long period orbit bird, standing by -- antennas
> dusted off...  It would be nice, but probably not practical given the huge
> workload of the ISS crew, that they could send the major parts up in
> sections and have it assembled there and then pushed out the airlock to be
> launched.  Yes, I know "Welcome to Fantasy Island!"
>
> Kevin, WB5RUE
> I am Voltohn of Borg, resistance is E/I, you will be attenuated!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
> McGwier
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:16 PM
> To: amsat bb
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>
> Neglect the "First geosynchronous" article. I did not write it and it is
> like all mistakes, firmly in archives and not fixable.
>
> http://www.hume.vt.edu/geo/
>
> 73s
> Bob
>
>
> --
> Bob McGwier
> Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
> Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia
> Tech Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security
> and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty
> Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT
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From w0jab at big-river.net  Fri Jun 17 19:19:05 2016
From: w0jab at big-river.net (John Becker)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:19:05 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
Message-ID: <337b53fe-7fbc-3fb9-4e45-e2e53d812248@big-river.net>



On 6/17/2016 1:54 PM,
> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.
you and me both.

John W0JAB


From py2rn at arrl.net  Fri Jun 17 19:20:55 2016
From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:20:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
In-Reply-To: <1540944737.5169234.1466190525022.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20160616.103044.19144.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>
	<CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<137946933.4525092.1466118516999.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAN6TEUcjidBMm8FqWm=H6S9Em5fSD1e3AoyN+EREN=vsNHndDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1540944737.5169234.1466190525022.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <748547122.5139883.1466191255307.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>



   Hi Patrick.
Agreed, it will depend on the environment conditions for each one/station.?? Usually devices connected to a computer are very subject to suffer with RFI /EMI all the ways,? USB cables makes great antennas, unfortunately.?? So toroids and shielding are a must,? but may be not enough sometimes.?? 

Regarding? metal cases for these dongles (not only RTL, but FCD and others with plastic cases) 3M and similar have a thin copper tape which is auto-adhesive? (and yes, the adhesive side is conductive as well!)?? I am using to mitigate RFI/EMI on these devices, and other plastic boxes I have here.
73
Ed?? PY2RN




      From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>
 To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
  
Hello, Ed!

Thanks for your reply! If I had my satellite station in a proper ham
shack, where the radios are inside and antennas are outside (or
the antennas are not within a few feet or a couple of meters of
the radios), it is possible that the house or building may be enough
to keep the transmitter from affecting the RTL-SDR dongles.
I don't have that option for working satellites, even when I am at
home. My antenna is always within a few feet or a couple of meters
of my radios, both transmit and receive. Putting the dongle in
a case with some shielding, and maybe adding some filters in front
of the dongle, could make that work in my situation. Between the
time and money needed to do that, I think I'm doing fine when I use
a FUNcube Dongle Pro+ or SDRplay. In fact, whenever I move to a place
where I can install a proper satellite station in the house,
with antennas outside and the radios inside, I know my existing
SDR receivers (FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and SDRplay) should work fine
in that environment as they have when I've worked portable.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK



On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:

> The cheap RTL dongles are as much sensible (or more) than the others more
> expensive.Lack of filtering is the big issue although there are some
> practical and easy workarounds to improve it.For ham satellites downlink
> frequency stability should not be an big issue, there are some models
> already been sold? with 0.5PPM TCXO option which are still cheap.It is a
> great opportunity to operate full-duplex on amateur satellites with very
> low investment and improving operational capabilities.
> EME (Moon bounce) audible signal RX comparison between TS-2000 / RTL /
> FunCube Pro+ can be seen here:
> https://youtu.be/3OxyO5ylwfs
>
> 73
> ED? PY2RN
>
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From kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org  Fri Jun 17 20:16:13 2016
From: kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org (Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:16:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <337b53fe-7fbc-3fb9-4e45-e2e53d812248@big-river.net>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
	<337b53fe-7fbc-3fb9-4e45-e2e53d812248@big-river.net>
Message-ID: <000301d1c8d5$1918a5d0$4b49f170$@org>

Of course a few LEO Linear birds like the old RS-12/13 would be nice too!  I
don't know how many hundreds of qsos I had on 2/10 using RS-12.  RS-15 was a
challenge and I think it's still there but only the beacon is active.

Kevin, WB5RUE

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Becker
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:19 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B



On 6/17/2016 1:54 PM,
> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.
you and me both.

John W0JAB

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From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun 17 20:19:34 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:19:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <000301d1c8d5$1918a5d0$4b49f170$@org>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
	<337b53fe-7fbc-3fb9-4e45-e2e53d812248@big-river.net>
	<000301d1c8d5$1918a5d0$4b49f170$@org>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoJDiU3YJbiOpJUr5A0=_UVaqAKoZnuCvjwLSVFunXonQ@mail.gmail.com>

There are currently seven active LEO linear transponders available for
amateur use, You're welcome to join us on any of them at any time!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
<kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
> Of course a few LEO Linear birds like the old RS-12/13 would be nice too!  I
> don't know how many hundreds of qsos I had on 2/10 using RS-12.  RS-15 was a
> challenge and I think it's still there but only the beacon is active.
>
> Kevin, WB5RUE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Becker
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:19 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>
>
>
> On 6/17/2016 1:54 PM,
>> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.
> you and me both.
>
> John W0JAB
>
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From kb2m at arrl.net  Fri Jun 17 20:36:10 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:36:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoJDiU3YJbiOpJUr5A0=_UVaqAKoZnuCvjwLSVFunXonQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>	<337b53fe-7fbc-3fb9-4e45-e2e53d812248@big-river.net>	<000301d1c8d5$1918a5d0$4b49f170$@org>
	<CABzOSOoJDiU3YJbiOpJUr5A0=_UVaqAKoZnuCvjwLSVFunXonQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d1c8d7$e2641a30$a72c4e90$@net>

 I'm on the X birds every morning taking to myself. At my winter home in
Florida before I put some crossed Yagi's up I was making contacts on a small
vertical with my TS-2000, I managed at least a contact a pass in that simple
setup. I notice some more activity lately due to FD preparations, I'm
working some new stations. Let's get more linear bird activity going guy's,
it's easier then you think...

73 Jeff kb2m  

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:20 PM
To: Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B

There are currently seven active LEO linear transponders available for
amateur use, You're welcome to join us on any of them at any time!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
<kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
> Of course a few LEO Linear birds like the old RS-12/13 would be nice 
> too!  I don't know how many hundreds of qsos I had on 2/10 using 
> RS-12.  RS-15 was a challenge and I think it's still there but only the
beacon is active.
>
> Kevin, WB5RUE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Becker
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:19 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>
>
>
> On 6/17/2016 1:54 PM,
>> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.
> you and me both.
>
> John W0JAB


From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun 17 20:46:36 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:46:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <000001d1c8d7$e2641a30$a72c4e90$@net>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
	<337b53fe-7fbc-3fb9-4e45-e2e53d812248@big-river.net>
	<000301d1c8d5$1918a5d0$4b49f170$@org>
	<CABzOSOoJDiU3YJbiOpJUr5A0=_UVaqAKoZnuCvjwLSVFunXonQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001d1c8d7$e2641a30$a72c4e90$@net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrqq4mNJgYtGivoXB1k6yNWjdAgKikpwzB-qiQMHfdYqQ@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't been on many of those passes myself. I'll have to try to get
on a few over the next several days.

It has been good to hear some prepping for Field Day. Unfortunately
many Field Day satellite operators seem to operate satellites once a
year and are sorely out of practice for Field Day (and it shows)

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Jeff Griffin <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:
>  I'm on the X birds every morning taking to myself. At my winter home in
> Florida before I put some crossed Yagi's up I was making contacts on a small
> vertical with my TS-2000, I managed at least a contact a pass in that simple
> setup. I notice some more activity lately due to FD preparations, I'm
> working some new stations. Let's get more linear bird activity going guy's,
> it's easier then you think...
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Stoetzer
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:20 PM
> To: Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>
> There are currently seven active LEO linear transponders available for
> amateur use, You're welcome to join us on any of them at any time!
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
> <kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
>> Of course a few LEO Linear birds like the old RS-12/13 would be nice
>> too!  I don't know how many hundreds of qsos I had on 2/10 using
>> RS-12.  RS-15 was a challenge and I think it's still there but only the
> beacon is active.
>>
>> Kevin, WB5RUE
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John
>> Becker
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 1:54 PM,
>>> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.
>> you and me both.
>>
>> John W0JAB
>
> _______________________________________________
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From sasb.geo at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 17 19:08:44 2016
From: sasb.geo at yahoo.com (Eduardo Erlemann)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:08:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUcjidBMm8FqWm=H6S9Em5fSD1e3AoyN+EREN=vsNHndDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160616.103044.19144.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com>
	<CAN6TEUch5CRAOX+RintjDuQGmh2WnsU53UZa3zhttpCRJtPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<137946933.4525092.1466118516999.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAN6TEUcjidBMm8FqWm=H6S9Em5fSD1e3AoyN+EREN=vsNHndDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1540944737.5169234.1466190525022.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

?Hi Patrick.
Agreed, it will depend on the environment conditions for each one/station.?? Usually devices connected to a computer are very subject to suffer with RFI /EMI all the ways,? USB cables makes great antennas, unfortunately.?? So toroids and shielding are a must,? but may be not enough sometimes.?? 

Regarding? metal cases for these dongles (not only RTL, but FCD and others with plastic cases) 3M and similar have a thin copper tape which is auto-adhesive? (and yes, the adhesive side is conductive as well!)?? I am using to mitigate RFI/EMI on these devices, and other plastic boxes I have here.
73
Ed?? PY2RN




      From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>
 To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RTL-SDR downlink
   
Hello, Ed!

Thanks for your reply! If I had my satellite station in a proper ham
shack, where the radios are inside and antennas are outside (or
the antennas are not within a few feet or a couple of meters of
the radios), it is possible that the house or building may be enough
to keep the transmitter from affecting the RTL-SDR dongles.
I don't have that option for working satellites, even when I am at
home. My antenna is always within a few feet or a couple of meters
of my radios, both transmit and receive. Putting the dongle in
a case with some shielding, and maybe adding some filters in front
of the dongle, could make that work in my situation. Between the
time and money needed to do that, I think I'm doing fine when I use
a FUNcube Dongle Pro+ or SDRplay. In fact, whenever I move to a place
where I can install a proper satellite station in the house,
with antennas outside and the radios inside, I know my existing
SDR receivers (FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and SDRplay) should work fine
in that environment as they have when I've worked portable.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK



On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:

> The cheap RTL dongles are as much sensible (or more) than the others more
> expensive.Lack of filtering is the big issue although there are some
> practical and easy workarounds to improve it.For ham satellites downlink
> frequency stability should not be an big issue, there are some models
> already been sold? with 0.5PPM TCXO option which are still cheap.It is a
> great opportunity to operate full-duplex on amateur satellites with very
> low investment and improving operational capabilities.
> EME (Moon bounce) audible signal RX comparison between TS-2000 / RTL /
> FunCube Pro+ can be seen here:
> https://youtu.be/3OxyO5ylwfs
>
> 73
> ED? PY2RN
>
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From kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org  Fri Jun 17 21:34:40 2016
From: kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org (Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:34:40 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <000001d1c8d7$e2641a30$a72c4e90$@net>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>	<337b53fe-7fbc-3fb9-4e45-e2e53d812248@big-river.net>	<000301d1c8d5$1918a5d0$4b49f170$@org>	<CABzOSOoJDiU3YJbiOpJUr5A0=_UVaqAKoZnuCvjwLSVFunXonQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001d1c8d7$e2641a30$a72c4e90$@net>
Message-ID: <000a01d1c8e0$0ea52af0$2bef80d0$@org>

What do you use for your antenna (brand) or did you build them yourself
(correct answer should be "built myself" but I understand if you didn't :) )

What do you think about the Arrow antenna?  I've seen quite a few people
using it and it seems that the major drawback is polarity.  Have you ever
tried a quadfiler antenna?  I've thought about building one even though they
look very complicated.  Helix looks easier.  I used a J-Pole and 10 meter
dipole (back in the day) and did really well on 25 watts or so.

I also need a better tracking program. I'm still using Winorbit (stop
laughing) and yes I know it was designed for Windows 3.1 but it does still
work with Windows XP though I've not tried it with Windows 7 yet.  I will
probably crash and burn.

I look forward to really getting serious again.  I did discover a really
nice App for my iPhone/iPad.  It's called Spyglass by Pavel Ahafonau.  It
has a 3D compass a feature that functions like a attitude indicator, a
heading indicator and compass all in one.  I have a mount on my antenna
which is mounted to a tripod.  As I move the antenna N/S/E/W or change the
elevation angle the indicator on my iPhone tells me exactly where it's
pointed (attitude, compass and elevation).  It also uses your GPS if you
need to know where you are.  You can get it from the App Store or as Arnold
says "De App Stowa." (Never make fun of someone who speaks with an accent,
they probably speak more languages than you do...)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spyglass/id332639548?mt=8  

Kevin, WB5RUE
EL09uf
I can melt ice with my mind, it just takes a while.

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Griffin
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 3:36 PM
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B

 I'm on the X birds every morning taking to myself. At my winter home in
Florida before I put some crossed Yagi's up I was making contacts on a small
vertical with my TS-2000, I managed at least a contact a pass in that simple
setup. I notice some more activity lately due to FD preparations, I'm
working some new stations. Let's get more linear bird activity going guy's,
it's easier then you think...

73 Jeff kb2m  

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:20 PM
To: Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B

There are currently seven active LEO linear transponders available for
amateur use, You're welcome to join us on any of them at any time!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
<kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
> Of course a few LEO Linear birds like the old RS-12/13 would be nice 
> too!  I don't know how many hundreds of qsos I had on 2/10 using 
> RS-12.  RS-15 was a challenge and I think it's still there but only 
> the
beacon is active.
>
> Kevin, WB5RUE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Becker
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:19 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>
>
>
> On 6/17/2016 1:54 PM,
>> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.
> you and me both.
>
> John W0JAB

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From kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org  Fri Jun 17 21:38:46 2016
From: kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org (Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:38:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrqq4mNJgYtGivoXB1k6yNWjdAgKikpwzB-qiQMHfdYqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>	<337b53fe-7fbc-3fb9-4e45-e2e53d812248@big-river.net>	<000301d1c8d5$1918a5d0$4b49f170$@org>	<CABzOSOoJDiU3YJbiOpJUr5A0=_UVaqAKoZnuCvjwLSVFunXonQ@mail.gmail.com>	<000001d1c8d7$e2641a30$a72c4e90$@net>
	<CABzOSOrqq4mNJgYtGivoXB1k6yNWjdAgKikpwzB-qiQMHfdYqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d1c8e0$a109f970$e31dec50$@org>

Yep and using 100W into a 10 element antenna...  I've heard those guys.  I
do lots of listening but little QSOing since the RS-12/13 birds wend dead
(been a LONG time)

Kevin,WB5RUE
EL09uf

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 3:47 PM
To: Jeff Griffin
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B

I haven't been on many of those passes myself. I'll have to try to get on a
few over the next several days.

It has been good to hear some prepping for Field Day. Unfortunately many
Field Day satellite operators seem to operate satellites once a year and are
sorely out of practice for Field Day (and it shows)

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Jeff Griffin <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:
>  I'm on the X birds every morning taking to myself. At my winter home 
> in Florida before I put some crossed Yagi's up I was making contacts 
> on a small vertical with my TS-2000, I managed at least a contact a 
> pass in that simple setup. I notice some more activity lately due to 
> FD preparations, I'm working some new stations. Let's get more linear 
> bird activity going guy's, it's easier then you think...
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul 
> Stoetzer
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:20 PM
> To: Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>
> There are currently seven active LEO linear transponders available for 
> amateur use, You're welcome to join us on any of them at any time!
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE 
> <kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
>> Of course a few LEO Linear birds like the old RS-12/13 would be nice 
>> too!  I don't know how many hundreds of qsos I had on 2/10 using 
>> RS-12.  RS-15 was a challenge and I think it's still there but only 
>> the
> beacon is active.
>>
>> Kevin, WB5RUE
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John 
>> Becker
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:19 PM
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 1:54 PM,
>>> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.
>> you and me both.
>>
>> John W0JAB
>
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From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Sat Jun 18 01:56:56 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:56:56 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DL99 on Monday, 20 June
Message-ID: <F82C4D5BFE7047EFAF86BF2DA192DFA4@AA5PKPC>

I plan to operate from Amistad National Recreation Area (RC?1) in DL99 on Monday, 20 June.

Two FO-29 passes --

First at my AOS of ~1720Z and a second at ~1903Z.

Monday promises to be the coolest day for the rest of the month with a high of just 96 predicted.

I'll upload to LoTW (as "AA5PK") and hardcopy QSL to anyone by email request.

73
Glenn / AA5PK 


From k.alexander at rogers.com  Sat Jun 18 05:12:31 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 01:12:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqN5XV_5bj5+UZrvfmEHPp8Z3hRLH9KErcQA2wHVnx9aA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
	<CABzOSOqN5XV_5bj5+UZrvfmEHPp8Z3hRLH9KErcQA2wHVnx9aA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eb78d393-2933-f34b-df49-b5eb52b20024@rogers.com>

If it's a matter of getting it assembled cheaply then send me...I'll 
go.  I've built plenty of Heathkit and Elecraft equipment and last 
summer I changed the brake pads on my Toyota, so I'm feeling pretty 
certain I can handle the work.  The only problem is I don't have much 
vacation time built up, so they would have to send me up on a Friday 
afternoon and I would have to be back home Sunday evening.  Otherwise my 
boss won't be too happy! If they could land the Soyuz spacecraft 
somewhere near Toronto I could take a cab the rest of the way home!

I'm probably a 2XL in a spacesuit.

Ready any time!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS



On 2016-06-17 3:09 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> If we could afford to pay astronauts to assemble a HEO, then we could
> afford to launch six of them to GTO without bothering.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
> <kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
>> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.  Given
>> that there is always the possibility of something going wrong along the way
>> I was sorely disappointed that it happened to THIS one.  I'm sure that
>> someday AMSAT will give us a long period orbit bird, standing by -- antennas
>> dusted off...  It would be nice, but probably not practical given the huge
>> workload of the ISS crew, that they could send the major parts up in
>> sections and have it assembled there and then pushed out the airlock to be
>> launched.  Yes, I know "Welcome to Fantasy Island!"
>>
>> Kevin, WB5RUE
>> I am Voltohn of Borg, resistance is E/I, you will be attenuated!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
>> McGwier
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:16 PM
>> To: amsat bb
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>>
>> Neglect the "First geosynchronous" article. I did not write it and it is
>> like all mistakes, firmly in archives and not fixable.
>>
>> http://www.hume.vt.edu/geo/
>>
>> 73s
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob McGwier
>> Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
>> Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia
>> Tech Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security
>> and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty
>> Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Sat Jun 18 06:54:37 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 02:54:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-18 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <771df1.30d37db2.44964a2d@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-18  07:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Chuvash Republic, Russia, direct via TBD (***) 
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is  Oleg Skripochka RN3FU (***)
Contact is a go for Sun 2016-06-19 09:30 UTC  (***)

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-18 07:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1063. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1028. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,  and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-14 04:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  46 on orbit 
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

Exp. 47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From py2rn at arrl.net  Sat Jun 18 15:47:29 2016
From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:47:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CQ CQ ZS, V51, East Africa via AO-7
References: <1208223510.5424747.1466264849306.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1208223510.5424747.1466264849306.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>


Any station available for a QSO via AO-7??? 

AOS here will be at 17:04UTC I will calling around 145.950? (If AO-7 available in mode B)


Tks & 73
Eduardo? PY2RN

From py2rn at arrl.net  Sat Jun 18 15:50:00 2016
From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:50:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CQ CQ ZS, V51, West Africa via AO-7
In-Reply-To: <1208223510.5424747.1466264849306.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1208223510.5424747.1466264849306.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1208223510.5424747.1466264849306.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1394898664.5429974.1466265000688.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Correction.... WEST Africa.? :)

      From: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net>
 To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:47 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] CQ CQ ZS, V51, East Africa via AO-7
   

Any station available for a QSO via AO-7??? 

AOS here will be at 17:04UTC I will calling around 145.950? (If AO-7 available in mode B)


Tks & 73
Eduardo? PY2RN
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From WB4SON at gmail.com  Sat Jun 18 16:25:00 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 12:25:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 Transponder Schedule
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrEt9gzftELE_HOmyU94FVm3aQ-fc7zBP+qR9LNThbBLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPonRZ9YsYE9nqNz1Mx+Ma_MZQGK_W_E0pkL=bwBcv8POpkt8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrEt9gzftELE_HOmyU94FVm3aQ-fc7zBP+qR9LNThbBLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ94QZherwEG5uQEFzRpJt+t=P3FrNuq4c7LiUjpdNXPdA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm happy to report that I was able to pick up 11 frames of data, my first,
for FUNcube-2/UKube-1.  As Paul, N8HM, reported, it is loud, even with the
transponder turned on.

Now I need to figure out how to have all these birds exist in SatPC32 --
this is #12 for me and its a full house!

I'll try the transponder on CW next pass, about 17:12 UTC

73, Bob, WB4SON


On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> The FUNcube-2 telemetry beacon is also on and very strong. It has been
> on continuously since yesterday. I've worked it on both day and night
> passes.
>
> There was what appeared to be a reset on the first pass this afternoon
> where the transponder switched off midpass for a few seconds.
>
> In addition, the CW beacon from the satellite's primary transceiver
> desenses the transponder uplink for about 20 seconds or so when it's
> transmitting.
>
> The uplink offset appears to be anywhere from +12 - +15 kHz from published.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now that the transponder is switched on will it be on 24/7 or does it
> shift
> > to data
> >
> > 73 WB4SON
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From WB4SON at gmail.com  Sat Jun 18 17:38:42 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:38:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 Transponder Schedule
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrEt9gzftELE_HOmyU94FVm3aQ-fc7zBP+qR9LNThbBLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPonRZ9YsYE9nqNz1Mx+Ma_MZQGK_W_E0pkL=bwBcv8POpkt8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrEt9gzftELE_HOmyU94FVm3aQ-fc7zBP+qR9LNThbBLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ8mmpBDWKSEYKupnrLkyojXVhYNqB5m0pNS_vujdJp7-A@mail.gmail.com>

Paul and I hooked up on FUNcube-2/UKube-1 during the 17:15 UTC pass.  That
was my first contact on this bird.

Unlike AO-73, I found the transponder uplink to be stable during the pass,
changing only a few hundred hertz beyond Doppler corrections, so I was able
to use full UL/DL Doppler correction, always hearing my downlink.  In the
case of my IC-9100, I found the uplink to be 14.3 KHz higher than specified.

My UL corrected Doppler.sqf file for SatPC32 contains the following entries
for CW, Voice, and Telemetry:

UKUBE-1,145940,435084.6,CW,CW,REV,0,0,CW
UKUBE-1,145940,435084.3,USB,LSB,REV,0,0,Voice U/V
UKUBE-1,145915,,USB,,,,TLM

73, Bob, WB4SON


On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> The FUNcube-2 telemetry beacon is also on and very strong. It has been
> on continuously since yesterday. I've worked it on both day and night
> passes.
>
> There was what appeared to be a reset on the first pass this afternoon
> where the transponder switched off midpass for a few seconds.
>
> In addition, the CW beacon from the satellite's primary transceiver
> desenses the transponder uplink for about 20 seconds or so when it's
> transmitting.
>
> The uplink offset appears to be anywhere from +12 - +15 kHz from published.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now that the transponder is switched on will it be on 24/7 or does it
> shift
> > to data
> >
> > 73 WB4SON
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From WB4SON at gmail.com  Sat Jun 18 18:42:28 2016
From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:42:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anybody know LOTW valid Satellite Name for
	UKUBE-1/FUNcube-2
Message-ID: <CAPonRZ-Xfi-wnW_bAsbRXKP=0bNas6ce9qsiVX+4deMi_WjB8A@mail.gmail.com>

The LOTW online FAQ doesn't have a satellite name listed for
UKUBE-1/FUNcube-2 yet.  Nor does it appear in the config.xml file for the
latest TQSL release (2.2.2).

Does anybody know if there is a LOTW acceptable name yet?

I have submitted a LOTW support ticket, but perhaps such requests need to
come from official sources?

73, Bob, WB4SON

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sat Jun 18 18:45:05 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:45:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anybody know LOTW valid Satellite Name for
	UKUBE-1/FUNcube-2
In-Reply-To: <CAPonRZ-Xfi-wnW_bAsbRXKP=0bNas6ce9qsiVX+4deMi_WjB8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPonRZ-Xfi-wnW_bAsbRXKP=0bNas6ce9qsiVX+4deMi_WjB8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOo8YDmnm+cKXPzHiOLAESCRTqVe5KOEQmu3yNTOfAjU2A@mail.gmail.com>

The FUNcube team and AMSAT-UK have indicated they wish to apply for an
OSCAR number for the satellite when they receive operational control.
Since it's impossible for the ARRL to change the satellite
abbreviation once entered in the LoTW system, I have already asked the
ARRL to NOT add the satellite to LoTW yet, pending the assignment of
an OSCAR number.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
> The LOTW online FAQ doesn't have a satellite name listed for
> UKUBE-1/FUNcube-2 yet.  Nor does it appear in the config.xml file for the
> latest TQSL release (2.2.2).
>
> Does anybody know if there is a LOTW acceptable name yet?
>
> I have submitted a LOTW support ticket, but perhaps such requests need to
> come from official sources?
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jun 18 19:12:06 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:12:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] News report indicates June 22 for PSLV-34 launch
References: <264376503.9210621.1466277126070.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <264376503.9210621.1466277126070.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Data modes on ham radio satellites
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/17/data-modes-on-ham-radio-satellites/

Amateur Radio ? A golden age of opportunity - features ARISS 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/14/ham-radio-golden-age/

MAI-75 ISS SSTV Video 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/13/mai-75-iss-sstv-video/

GB1SS: schools speaking to Tim Peake 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/13/gb1ss-schools-speaking-to-tim-peake/

Newspaper: ISRO PSLV-C34 will Launch 20 Satellites from Space Centre at Andhra Pradesh June 22?http://www.newsgram.com/in-a-single-mission-on-june-22-isro-will-launch-20-satellites-from-space-centre-at-andhra-pradesh/

ISRO PSLV-C34 launch frequencies 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/05/25/amateur-satellite-launch-from-india/

UKube-1 SSB/CW transponder has been active the last few days 
https://amsat-uk.org/satellites/communications/ukube-1/

This year's AMSAT-UK Colloquium takes place July 29-31 at the Holiday Inn, Guildford and is open to all https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/


73 Trevor M5AKA
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sat Jun 18 19:28:36 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:28:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simulate past passes in MacDoppler w/o changing OS
	date/time?
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>

I just setup MacDoppler last night and got it to do basically what I
wanted but I can't figure out if it's possible to simulate past/future
passes beyond the 6 hour +/- changes you can make with the slider. I
can get beyond that limit if I change the system date/time but I'd
prefer not to have to do that to get what I want.

I did see you can get predictions for anytime but what I'm interested
in is not just that, but watching the map from the past passes.

Is there a way to do that?

73,

John Brier KG4AKV

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sat Jun 18 19:34:47 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 12:34:47 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simulate past passes in MacDoppler w/o changing OS
	date/time?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CDE8D0DD-5636-4895-97F2-970835BA988D@kl7cn.net>

After extensive research and experimentation, I was able to reliably handle past pass prediction using Orbitron.

predict on the command line also works, but Orbitron is more flexible for day-to-day use with past passes.

Orbitron is Windows-only, FYI.

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6

On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:28, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

I just setup MacDoppler last night and got it to do basically what I
wanted but I can't figure out if it's possible to simulate past/future
passes beyond the 6 hour +/- changes you can make with the slider. I
can get beyond that limit if I change the system date/time but I'd
prefer not to have to do that to get what I want.

I did see you can get predictions for anytime but what I'm interested
in is not just that, but watching the map from the past passes.

Is there a way to do that?

73,

John Brier KG4AKV
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sat Jun 18 19:57:41 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:57:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simulate past passes in MacDoppler w/o changing OS
	date/time?
In-Reply-To: <CDE8D0DD-5636-4895-97F2-970835BA988D@kl7cn.net>
References: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CDE8D0DD-5636-4895-97F2-970835BA988D@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKM+NGYawmzONuTdJa40gsPVcQ-_OXfiscRHPL7pu=KH_Q@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, I normally use Orbitron and it does this easily, but I'm
travelling and all I have is a MacBook Pro. I guess I will virtualize
windows so I can use Orbitron easily in the future.

73, KG4AKV

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> After extensive research and experimentation, I was able to reliably handle past pass prediction using Orbitron.
>
> predict on the command line also works, but Orbitron is more flexible for day-to-day use with past passes.
>
> Orbitron is Windows-only, FYI.
>
> -- bag
>
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:28, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just setup MacDoppler last night and got it to do basically what I
> wanted but I can't figure out if it's possible to simulate past/future
> passes beyond the 6 hour +/- changes you can make with the slider. I
> can get beyond that limit if I change the system date/time but I'd
> prefer not to have to do that to get what I want.
>
> I did see you can get predictions for anytime but what I'm interested
> in is not just that, but watching the map from the past passes.
>
> Is there a way to do that?
>
> 73,
>
> John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sat Jun 18 20:00:56 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:00:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simulate past passes in MacDoppler w/o changing OS
	date/time?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKM+NGYawmzONuTdJa40gsPVcQ-_OXfiscRHPL7pu=KH_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CDE8D0DD-5636-4895-97F2-970835BA988D@kl7cn.net>
	<CALn0fKM+NGYawmzONuTdJa40gsPVcQ-_OXfiscRHPL7pu=KH_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D5028265-7CC0-4DCC-8DB3-37B39A56DB9C@kl7cn.net>

It would be lovely to learn how to make MacDoppler do the same thing!

I am sure that *enough* research would result in the same for GPredict.

I was satisfied with Orbitron, so I left it at that. If it's enough for Captain Yuri...

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6

On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:57, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, I normally use Orbitron and it does this easily, but I'm
travelling and all I have is a MacBook Pro. I guess I will virtualize
windows so I can use Orbitron easily in the future.

73, KG4AKV

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> After extensive research and experimentation, I was able to reliably handle past pass prediction using Orbitron.
> 
> predict on the command line also works, but Orbitron is more flexible for day-to-day use with past passes.
> 
> Orbitron is Windows-only, FYI.
> 
> -- bag
> 
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> 
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:28, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just setup MacDoppler last night and got it to do basically what I
> wanted but I can't figure out if it's possible to simulate past/future
> passes beyond the 6 hour +/- changes you can make with the slider. I
> can get beyond that limit if I change the system date/time but I'd
> prefer not to have to do that to get what I want.
> 
> I did see you can get predictions for anytime but what I'm interested
> in is not just that, but watching the map from the past passes.
> 
> Is there a way to do that?
> 
> 73,
> 
> John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From kq6ea at verizon.net  Sat Jun 18 20:23:33 2016
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 20:23:33 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simulate past passes in MacDoppler w/o changing OS
 date/time?
In-Reply-To: <D5028265-7CC0-4DCC-8DB3-37B39A56DB9C@kl7cn.net>
References: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CDE8D0DD-5636-4895-97F2-970835BA988D@kl7cn.net>
	<CALn0fKM+NGYawmzONuTdJa40gsPVcQ-_OXfiscRHPL7pu=KH_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<D5028265-7CC0-4DCC-8DB3-37B39A56DB9C@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <5765ADC5.9040504@verizon.net>

GPredict does future passes quite well.

If you go to the lower right box and click on the "down arrow" just to 
the left of the satellite name, it has an option to show future passes.

73, Jim  KQ6EA


On 06/18/2016 08:00 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote:
> It would be lovely to learn how to make MacDoppler do the same thing!
>
> I am sure that *enough* research would result in the same for GPredict.
>
> I was satisfied with Orbitron, so I left it at that. If it's enough for Captain Yuri...
>
> -- bag
>
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:57, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I normally use Orbitron and it does this easily, but I'm
> travelling and all I have is a MacBook Pro. I guess I will virtualize
> windows so I can use Orbitron easily in the future.
>
> 73, KG4AKV
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>> After extensive research and experimentation, I was able to reliably handle past pass prediction using Orbitron.
>>
>> predict on the command line also works, but Orbitron is more flexible for day-to-day use with past passes.
>>
>> Orbitron is Windows-only, FYI.
>>
>> -- bag
>>
>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:28, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just setup MacDoppler last night and got it to do basically what I
>> wanted but I can't figure out if it's possible to simulate past/future
>> passes beyond the 6 hour +/- changes you can make with the slider. I
>> can get beyond that limit if I change the system date/time but I'd
>> prefer not to have to do that to get what I want.
>>
>> I did see you can get predictions for anytime but what I'm interested
>> in is not just that, but watching the map from the past passes.
>>
>> Is there a way to do that?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> John Brier KG4AKV
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Sat Jun 18 20:42:20 2016
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (dave at g4dpz.me.uk)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:42:20 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simulate past passes in MacDoppler w/o changing OS
	date/time?
In-Reply-To: <5765ADC5.9040504@verizon.net>
References: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CDE8D0DD-5636-4895-97F2-970835BA988D@kl7cn.net>
	<CALn0fKM+NGYawmzONuTdJa40gsPVcQ-_OXfiscRHPL7pu=KH_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<D5028265-7CC0-4DCC-8DB3-37B39A56DB9C@kl7cn.net>
	<5765ADC5.9040504@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <13CFED4D-1F2F-4B09-9C11-62D3ED598BEF@g4dpz.me.uk>

Hi

Not sure how the SGP4 algorithms will cope with old prediction if it is before the TLE reference date.

73

Dave G4DPZ

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jun 2016, at 21:23, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> GPredict does future passes quite well.
> 
> If you go to the lower right box and click on the "down arrow" just to the left of the satellite name, it has an option to show future passes.
> 
> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
> 
> 
>> On 06/18/2016 08:00 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote:
>> It would be lovely to learn how to make MacDoppler do the same thing!
>> 
>> I am sure that *enough* research would result in the same for GPredict.
>> 
>> I was satisfied with Orbitron, so I left it at that. If it's enough for Captain Yuri...
>> 
>> -- bag
>> 
>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:57, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I normally use Orbitron and it does this easily, but I'm
>> travelling and all I have is a MacBook Pro. I guess I will virtualize
>> windows so I can use Orbitron easily in the future.
>> 
>> 73, KG4AKV
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>> After extensive research and experimentation, I was able to reliably handle past pass prediction using Orbitron.
>>> 
>>> predict on the command line also works, but Orbitron is more flexible for day-to-day use with past passes.
>>> 
>>> Orbitron is Windows-only, FYI.
>>> 
>>> -- bag
>>> 
>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:28, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just setup MacDoppler last night and got it to do basically what I
>>> wanted but I can't figure out if it's possible to simulate past/future
>>> passes beyond the 6 hour +/- changes you can make with the slider. I
>>> can get beyond that limit if I change the system date/time but I'd
>>> prefer not to have to do that to get what I want.
>>> 
>>> I did see you can get predictions for anytime but what I'm interested
>>> in is not just that, but watching the map from the past passes.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to do that?
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> John Brier KG4AKV
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>> _______________________________________________
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sat Jun 18 20:49:31 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:49:31 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simulate past passes in MacDoppler w/o changing OS
	date/time?
In-Reply-To: <13CFED4D-1F2F-4B09-9C11-62D3ED598BEF@g4dpz.me.uk>
References: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CDE8D0DD-5636-4895-97F2-970835BA988D@kl7cn.net>
	<CALn0fKM+NGYawmzONuTdJa40gsPVcQ-_OXfiscRHPL7pu=KH_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<D5028265-7CC0-4DCC-8DB3-37B39A56DB9C@kl7cn.net>
	<5765ADC5.9040504@verizon.net>
	<13CFED4D-1F2F-4B09-9C11-62D3ED598BEF@g4dpz.me.uk>
Message-ID: <E1095FB1-42A2-465F-A479-F150AD579A0C@kl7cn.net>

They would be incorrect, of course.

I should elaborate -- I definitely used contemporaneous TLEs from the time period I needed.

Thanks for bringing that up!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6

On Jun 18, 2016, at 13:42, dave at g4dpz.me.uk wrote:

Hi

Not sure how the SGP4 algorithms will cope with old prediction if it is before the TLE reference date.

73

Dave G4DPZ

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jun 2016, at 21:23, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> GPredict does future passes quite well.
> 
> If you go to the lower right box and click on the "down arrow" just to the left of the satellite name, it has an option to show future passes.
> 
> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
> 
> 
>> On 06/18/2016 08:00 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote:
>> It would be lovely to learn how to make MacDoppler do the same thing!
>> 
>> I am sure that *enough* research would result in the same for GPredict.
>> 
>> I was satisfied with Orbitron, so I left it at that. If it's enough for Captain Yuri...
>> 
>> -- bag
>> 
>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:57, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I normally use Orbitron and it does this easily, but I'm
>> travelling and all I have is a MacBook Pro. I guess I will virtualize
>> windows so I can use Orbitron easily in the future.
>> 
>> 73, KG4AKV
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>> After extensive research and experimentation, I was able to reliably handle past pass prediction using Orbitron.
>>> 
>>> predict on the command line also works, but Orbitron is more flexible for day-to-day use with past passes.
>>> 
>>> Orbitron is Windows-only, FYI.
>>> 
>>> -- bag
>>> 
>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:28, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just setup MacDoppler last night and got it to do basically what I
>>> wanted but I can't figure out if it's possible to simulate past/future
>>> passes beyond the 6 hour +/- changes you can make with the slider. I
>>> can get beyond that limit if I change the system date/time but I'd
>>> prefer not to have to do that to get what I want.
>>> 
>>> I did see you can get predictions for anytime but what I'm interested
>>> in is not just that, but watching the map from the past passes.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to do that?
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> John Brier KG4AKV
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Sat Jun 18 20:57:13 2016
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:57:13 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 Transponder Schedule
In-Reply-To: <CAPonRZ8mmpBDWKSEYKupnrLkyojXVhYNqB5m0pNS_vujdJp7-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPonRZ8mmpBDWKSEYKupnrLkyojXVhYNqB5m0pNS_vujdJp7-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17b38c26-0491-b32b-70c6-db57c482ec13@verizon.net>

Bob,

That is pretty much the same here.  I found it at +15,540 Hz higher on 
the up link and just have to "TAP" the "+ / - " keys occasionally during 
the pass.  I get the strongest signals using RHCP on the up link and 
LHCP on the down.

The workaround for  the 12 satellite limit on SatPC32 is to create a 
separate group for FM satellites.  I have STANDARD and FM groups.

BOB
KO6TZ





Paul and I hooked up on FUNcube-2/UKube-1 during the 17:15 UTC pass.  That
was my first contact on this bird.

Unlike AO-73, I found the transponder uplink to be stable during the pass,
changing only a few hundred hertz beyond Doppler corrections, so I was able
to use full UL/DL Doppler correction, always hearing my downlink. In the
case of my IC-9100, I found the uplink to be 14.3 KHz higher than specified.

My UL corrected Doppler.sqf file for SatPC32 contains the following entries
for CW, Voice, and Telemetry:

UKUBE-1,145940,435084.6,CW,CW,REV,0,0,CW
UKUBE-1,145940,435084.3,USB,LSB,REV,0,0,Voice U/V
UKUBE-1,145915,,USB,,,,TLM

73, Bob, WB4SON


On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

 > The FUNcube-2 telemetry beacon is also on and very strong. It has been
 > on continuously since yesterday. I've worked it on both day and night
 > passes.
 >
 > There was what appeared to be a reset on the first pass this afternoon
 > where the transponder switched off midpass for a few seconds.
 >
 > In addition, the CW beacon from the satellite's primary transceiver
 > desenses the transponder uplink for about 20 seconds or so when it's
 > transmitting.
 >
 > The uplink offset appears to be anywhere from +12 - +15 kHz from 
published.
 >
 > 73,
 >
 > Paul, N8HM
 >
 > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
 > > Now that the transponder is switched on will it be on 24/7 or does it
 > shift
 > > to data
 > >
 > > 73 WB4SON


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sat Jun 18 21:29:54 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:29:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simulate past passes in MacDoppler w/o changing OS
	date/time?
In-Reply-To: <E1095FB1-42A2-465F-A479-F150AD579A0C@kl7cn.net>
References: <CALn0fKMyQjfmPrAWZgmbBHD8t-c15zzDnxkF6vyd9pA=Wh=0jA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CDE8D0DD-5636-4895-97F2-970835BA988D@kl7cn.net>
	<CALn0fKM+NGYawmzONuTdJa40gsPVcQ-_OXfiscRHPL7pu=KH_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<D5028265-7CC0-4DCC-8DB3-37B39A56DB9C@kl7cn.net>
	<5765ADC5.9040504@verizon.net>
	<13CFED4D-1F2F-4B09-9C11-62D3ED598BEF@g4dpz.me.uk>
	<E1095FB1-42A2-465F-A479-F150AD579A0C@kl7cn.net>
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I am also using old keps from spacetrack.
On Jun 18, 2016 4:49 PM, "Bryan KL7CN" <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:

> They would be incorrect, of course.
>
> I should elaborate -- I definitely used contemporaneous TLEs from the time
> period I needed.
>
> Thanks for bringing that up!
>
> -- bag
>
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 13:42, dave at g4dpz.me.uk wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Not sure how the SGP4 algorithms will cope with old prediction if it is
> before the TLE reference date.
>
> 73
>
> Dave G4DPZ
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 18 Jun 2016, at 21:23, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > GPredict does future passes quite well.
> >
> > If you go to the lower right box and click on the "down arrow" just to
> the left of the satellite name, it has an option to show future passes.
> >
> > 73, Jim  KQ6EA
> >
> >
> >> On 06/18/2016 08:00 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote:
> >> It would be lovely to learn how to make MacDoppler do the same thing!
> >>
> >> I am sure that *enough* research would result in the same for GPredict.
> >>
> >> I was satisfied with Orbitron, so I left it at that. If it's enough for
> Captain Yuri...
> >>
> >> -- bag
> >>
> >> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> >>
> >> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:57, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, I normally use Orbitron and it does this easily, but I'm
> >> travelling and all I have is a MacBook Pro. I guess I will virtualize
> >> windows so I can use Orbitron easily in the future.
> >>
> >> 73, KG4AKV
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> >>> After extensive research and experimentation, I was able to reliably
> handle past pass prediction using Orbitron.
> >>>
> >>> predict on the command line also works, but Orbitron is more flexible
> for day-to-day use with past passes.
> >>>
> >>> Orbitron is Windows-only, FYI.
> >>>
> >>> -- bag
> >>>
> >>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 12:28, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just setup MacDoppler last night and got it to do basically what I
> >>> wanted but I can't figure out if it's possible to simulate past/future
> >>> passes beyond the 6 hour +/- changes you can make with the slider. I
> >>> can get beyond that limit if I change the system date/time but I'd
> >>> prefer not to have to do that to get what I want.
> >>>
> >>> I did see you can get predictions for anytime but what I'm interested
> >>> in is not just that, but watching the map from the past passes.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a way to do that?
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> John Brier KG4AKV
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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From jimki6wj at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 19 01:28:01 2016
From: jimki6wj at sbcglobal.net (James Brown)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 01:28:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ic-910H
References: <755236712.5954389.1466299681483.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <755236712.5954389.1466299681483.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Just picked up? a Icom IC910H. I have worked my way thru the setup and have? a few questions for someone with this rig!
Also have? a nice FT847 with accessories that I will list this coming week.It works fine. used it on FO 29 mostly.

Jim KI6WJ

From n8fgv at usa.net  Sun Jun 19 03:58:11 2016
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:58:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Only Half of the CubeSats Deployed into Space Work
Message-ID: <217uFsD6L9408S06.1466308691@web06.cms.usa.net>

------ Original Message ------
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:16:19 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier at gmail.com>

>Space is a mean nasty place.  Hard Vacuum, very energetic particles
>slamming you, micrometeorites and space junk clobbering, computers
>GUARANTEED to get into a failure mode, with probability 1.  And then what
>do you do?  Most don't know. Only experience tells you how not to have a
>dead computer or one acting in  a stupid way and how to fix it.

Without naming any names, many years ago I had some limited involvement with a
group that was going to build a satellite. Their transmitter was based on one
of the Motorola RF chips intended for the cordless telephone or baby monitor
market. They copied one of the example circuits from the manufacturer's data
sheet and designed it into their satellite, with no workbench prototype to see
if it actually works. There were no environmental tests, no thermal vacuum
test, no extended range temperature test, no "day in the life" test, no
vibration test. The satellite was delivered to the launch authority, which
successfully placed it into orbit, and it was never heard from after launch,
just another piece of space debris from day one. They were not interested in
hearing any advice from anybody, because they were the smartest students at
one of the best schools in the country, they had nothing to learn from
anybody. That is how you design for failure.


------ Original Message ------
Received: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 04:01:31 AM EDT
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville at btinternet.com>
> 
> Can we, collectively, come up with a better name than "Hobbyists" that 
> he shows in slide 3? 

In professor Swartwout's data base, AMSAT is not classified in the "Hobbyists"
category, he places us under the "Commercial" category. His use of "Hobbyists"
refers to people and organizations who are building their first satellite with
no prior experience and little access to previous knowledge. Many of these
organizations give up after one failure and are replaced by another
first-timer group, so that the failure rate among the "Hobbyists" group of
CubeSats is pretty much guaranteed to remain high. 


------ Original Message ------
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:16:13 -0500
From: "Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE" <kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org>
To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>

>Of course a few LEO Linear birds like the old RS-12/13 would be nice too!  I
>don't know how many hundreds of qsos I had on 2/10 using RS-12.  

When reminiscing about the Radio Sputnik satellites, keep in mind that these
were hosted payloads on a larger satellite, and they received a copious amount
of electrical power from the primary satellite. This is a sweet deal if you
can get it, but with the tiny little CubeSat form factors that we are forced
to use today, it will be difficult to match the performance that you remember
from the "good old days" of RS-12/13. 

73, Dan Schultz N8FGV


From wao at vfr.net  Sun Jun 19 04:11:56 2016
From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:11:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-171 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <b08d7068-f46c-b1b4-8472-034c8366ad1b@vfr.net>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
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mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* 2016 Candidates for the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Announced
* May/June 2016 Issue of The AMSAT Journal Sent To Press
* Amateur Radio Geostationary Satellite Phase 4B Information
* ISRO PSLV-C34 will Launch 20 Satellites from Space Centre at Andhra 
Pradesh
   June 22
* Data Modes on Ham Radio Satellites
* LibreCube Initiative Invites Comments on CubeSat PC Board Standardization
* Special Calls From Brazil on the Satellites
* Special Event Station K1D to Operate Satellites on Field Day 2016
* ARISS Delivers the Excitement of Space Exploration to UK Students
* NASA Astronaut Scott Tingle Earns Amateur Radio License, KG5NZA
* AMSAT Events
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over

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2016 Candidates for the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Announced


The 2016 candidates, in alphabetical order by last names are:

Tom Clark, K3IO
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Mark Hammond, N8MH
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

This year AMSAT-NA will be electing three voting members of the Board
of Directors. These will go to the three candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternates
chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.

Ballots will be mailed to the AMSAT-NA membership by July 15, 2016 and
must be received at the AMSAT office by September 15, 2016 in order to
be counted. Those sent outside North America will go by air mail. If
you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for
your location, please contact the AMSAT office. Completed ballots
should be returned as promptly as possible, and those from outside
North America preferably by air mail.

Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an
opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of
AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that
will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the
Board. You have the option to vote for up to three candidates.


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA Secretary, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, for the
above information]


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May/June 2016 Issue of The AMSAT Journal Sent To Press


The May/June 2016 issue of The AMSAT Journal has gone to press and
should be arriving in member's mailboxes soon.

In this issue:
*Dateline Dayton - Notes from Hamvention 2016 - Joe Kornowski, KB6IGK
and Keith Baker, KB1SF/VA3KSF
*Tom Clark, K3IO, Receives ARRL President's Award
*GNU Radio Companion Protoype for a Dual Analog/Digtal Transponder
System for the AMSAT GEO Mission - Dr. William C. Headley, KM4KAL, Dr.
Robert McGwier, N4HY, and Dr. Tom Clark, K3IO
*Orbital Debrief - Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
*Member Footprints - John Smith, KI4RO
*An Arduino Controlled GPS Corrected VFO - Gene Marcus, W3PM/GM4YRE
*On the Grids - Melvin C. Vye, W8MV
*AMSAT Activites at Greater Houston Hamfest 2016 - Allen F. Mattis,
N5AVF and Andy MacAllister, W5ACM
*GOTA Station Demos Satellites to Over 400 Students - Richard Siff, WA4BUE


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA Secretary, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, for the
above information]


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Amateur Radio Geostationary Satellite Phase 4B Information

At website hosted by the Hume Center for National Security and Technology
at Virginia Tech lists the relevant information available for the Phase 4B
HEO Satellite. The beginning parts of the brochure state:

Hands  on,  Minds  on;  RF  and  Security Research at Virginia Tech:
?  On-orbit learning laboratory to develop new capabilities in satellite
    communications and amateur radio
?  Digital protocols to enable push-to-talk, WiFi, streaming video, etc.
?  Onboard  processing  -  geolocation,  co-channel, machine learning
?  App development and real time experimentation
?  Beam steering and coordinated collection
?  User authentication and prioritization
?  Open cryptography

AMSAT Phase4B Project Program Specifications:
?  SDR-based 5 & 10 GHz amateur satellite payload being designed to take
    advantage of a geosynchronous launch opportunity
?  Rideshare opportunity on the US Air Force Remote Sensing Program Office
    Wide Field of View (WFOV) geosynchronous satellite being designed by
    Millennium Space Systems
?  Software-defined  radio (SDR) payload from Rincon Research Corporation

Dr. McGwier has promised upcoming articles for the AMSAT Journal and QST.

see the full description at:
http://www.hume.vt.edu/geo/


[ANS thanks Bob McGwier, N4HY, and the Hume Center for National Security
and Technology at Virginia Tech, for the above information]


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ISRO PSLV-C34 will Launch 20 Satellites from Space Centre at Andhra Pradesh
June 22

The Indian Space Agency has announced that it would be launching twenty
satellites from its Sriharikota barrier Island base off the southeast coast
on June 22.

According to the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO), the Indian 
rocket
Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) will lift off from Sriharikota in
Andhra Pradesh with 20 satellites at 9.25 am that day. While the rocket?s
main cargo will be India?s 725.5 kg Cartosat-2 series satellite for earth
observation, the other 19 satellites weighing around 560 kg are from 
Canada,
Germany, Indonesia and the United States as well as one satellite each from
Sathyabama University, Chennai, and the College of Engineering, Pune, said
the Indiatoday.in report.

The satellites will be launched from the second launch pad with a total
payload of 1,288 kg. The whole mission will take approximately 26 
minutes for
its completion. The images sent by the Cartosat satellite will be useful 
for
cartographic, urban, rural, coastal land use, water distribution and other
applications. The Cartosat series of satellites was originated in India and
is a part of Indian Remote Sensing Program.

According to Indiatoday.in, the Swayam satellite weighing 1kg from Pune 
will
provide point-to-point messaging services to the HAM radio community.
HAM Radio, or Amateur Radio, is a popular service that brings people,
electronics and communication together. People use ham radio to talk across
town, around the world, or even into space, all without the Internet or
mobile phones.

The 1.5 kg Sathyabamasat from Sathyabama University will collect data on
greenhouse gases.

Satellite      Uplink    Downlink  Beacon    Mode
------------  -------  --------  -------  ---------------
BEESAT-4         .      435.950  435.950  4800bps GMSK,CW
BIROS            .      437.525     .     4800bps GMSK
LAPAN-A3      435.880   145.880  145.825  FM,APRS
Max Valier       .      145.860  145.960  CW
Sathyabamasat    .      145.980     .     2400bps BPSK
Swayam COEP      .      437.025  437.025  1200bps BPSK,CW
Venta-1          .         .     437.325  CW
------------  -------  --------  -------  ---------------

see
http://www.newsgram.com/in-a-single-mission-on-june-22-isro-will-launch-20-
satellites-from-space-centre-at-andhra-pradesh/

https://amsat-uk.org/2016/05/25/amateur-satellite-launch-from-india/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and newsgram.com for the above information]


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Data Modes on Ham Radio Satellites


Tony Bombardiere, K2MO has released a video showing operation of PSK31,
PSK63, and Hellshreiber on the amateur radio satellites.

He demonstrates WinPSK and IZ8BLY?s Hellschreiber which both have satellite
capabilities. Essentially, the applications make it easy for the operator
to monitor digital signals on the satellites downlink while simultaneously
transmitting on the satellites uplink; it?s accomplished by utilizing the
sound cards full-duplex operation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaaHy02g9cM
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/17/data-modes-on-ham-radio-satellites/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and Tony Bombardiere, K2MO, for the above information]


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LibreCube Initiative Invites Comments on CubeSat PC Board Standardization


On June 16 Cubesat.org announced on their cubesat at cubesat.org e-mail list
that the LibreCube Initiative, a community-driven initiative to provide
open source solutions for space and earth exploration, is seeking input
to formalize the mechanical specification of the stacked PC/104 circuit
boards utilized in most CubeSat designs.

The LibreSat project invites inline comments into the draft document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vEx4Wg5NjpI21a7JNdPjHnXPRjmNMTzArlYTK1sg
1Ng/edit?usp=sharing

You may also discuss about it in the forum:
http://librecube.net/forums/topic/librecube-board-specification/

When finalized, this specification shall become binding for future LibreCube
open source CubeSat projects, but may be useful to other members of the
CubeSat community as well.

More information about the LibreCube project can be found on their web page:
http://www.librecube.net

The e-mail contact provided on the announcement is:
Email: artur.scholz at librecube.net


[ANS thanks CubeSat.org and LibreCube.net for the above information]


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Special Calls From Brazil on the Satellites


The Brazilian Amateur Radio Satellite Community of ARSATC, is celebrating
its first "birthday" on the air with the calls ZV8SAT, ZX9SAT, ZV1SAT, and
ZV2SAT until the end of the month. They will be QRV on the Satellites; QSL
for all calls via PT9BM and LoTW. More information is on-line at:
http://www.arsatc.org/home.html


[ANS thanks the DXNL 1993 - June 15, 2016 DX Newsletter for the above
information]


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Special Event Station K1D to Operate Satellites on Field Day 2016


Field Day is always the fourth full weekend of June, beginning at 1800 UTC
Saturday and running through 2059 UTC Sunday. Field Day 2016 is June 25-26.

In an effort to encourage more kids and their families to get involved in
the hobby, the kids at Ham Radio (dot) World are working to put an all-kids
Special Event ARRL Field Day station on the air in 2016. This station will
have the special event call sign of K1D and it will be set-up, operated, and
put away by kids who are ham radio operators.  Kids of all ages and their
parents (both licensed hams and non-hams alike) are encouraged to come out
and participate in this exciting event.  New hams and even non-hams can
experience the excitement of talking to people around the world with the
Get On the Air (GOTA) station, which will have the callsign K4G. Both 
stations
will operate from grid EL99IA in Deland, Florida, USA.

The kids will be on the HF bands and on the Amateur Radio satellites.  
K1D will
be joined by AMSAT?s Vice-President Operations, Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, who
will be a kid-for-a-day to help get the kids on the linear satellites.  Look
for them and give them a shout!

The K1D Special Event Field Day station will be built by the kids prior to
the Field Day activities.  The kids have built a solar power solution?from
scratch?to use to power their K1D Special Event Field Day station. Kyocera
Solar and West Mountain Radio have graciously donated parts to this solar
power supply ? THANK YOU!  They also plan on using a Genasun MPPT Charge
Controller to manage charging the battery.  Emmett of Radiowavz.com is
providing a Sentinel Expedition Hex Beam for K1D. Finally, the kids have
built their own W7FG True Ladder Line antenna with parts provided by
TrueLadderLine.com and are building additional antennas to use for Field
Day.  Keep watching Ham Radio (dot) World for videos of the kids as they
build their Special Event Station.

Join WX4TVJ (Zechariah), who was licensed at 12 years old,
AE4FH (Faith Hannah), who was licensed at 10 years old, KM4IPF (Hope),
who was licensed at 8 years old, & 7 year old Grace (KM4TXT)for Field Day
2016. Listen for them on the air and give them a break by making K1D one
of your 2016 Field Day contacts.

For helping to encourage youth in amateur radio, stations who work K1D
and/or K4G during the 2016 ARRL Field Day will be eligible for a special
K1D/K4G Commemorative QSL card.

More information at
http://hamradio.world/


[ANS thanks James, WX4TV for the above information]


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ARISS Delivers the Excitement of Space Exploration to UK Students


Two stories shared in UK media capture the excitement and reward of the
UK?s ARISS ham radio operations team?s efforts in connection with Tim 
Peake?s
Principia Mission.

Carole Cadwalladr, a writer from The Guardian (a UK national newspaper) was
present for the ARISS contact on May 9 at The King?s School, Ottery St. 
Mary
in Devon, UK.  In the Sunday, May 29 edition, she posted a story that
beautifully captures the spirit of space adventure and how the ARISS 
program
brings that excitement to students, their educators, and their communities
in profound ways.  The story is at:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/may/29/tim-peake-ground-control-
revive-science-interest-schools-space

TXFactor produced a documentary about the ARISS program?s interface with
Tim Peake?s Principia Mission. The documentary describes the process UK
schools undertook to apply for a scheduled radio interview with Peake,
and preparations for the contact opportunity by the King?s School in Devon.
It details the station set up by the ARISS UK Operations team which
accomplished successful radio contacts between 10 UK schools during Peake's
Principia endeavor. Seven of these ten contacts included the reception of
HamTV signals both at the school (using a mobile based ATV reception 
facility)
and a 3.8m dish located at the Goonhilly Satellite Earth Station.

Watch the video on YouTube at:
http://www.txfactor.co.uk/txf011.shtml


[ANS thanks ARISS for the above information]


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NASA Astronaut Scott Tingle Earns Amateur Radio License, KG5NZA


NASA Astronaut Scott Tingle Earns Amateur Radio License. He is now the owner
of call sign KG5NZA and will support ARISS on upcoming ISS Expeditions 53
and 54.

NASA Astronaut Scott D. Tingle has just earned his Amateur Radio license,
passing his exam on June 3, 2016. The FCC issued the call sign, KG5NZA, to
him on June 8.  In January, as he began some NASA training in Russia he
requested the license study material.  He had heard about ARISS during his
astronaut training, and in January, decided to study on his own.

The astronaut training program runs for at least two years, is intense, and
heavily loaded with all types of required studies, and Amateur Radio is
optional.  Tingle earned his technician license and plans to use it to
support ARISS during his scheduled time on the International Space Station
as part of the Expedition 53 crew.  Launch is tentatively planned for fall
of 2017.  His stay continues into Expedition 54.

Tingle graduated from Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, in 1988
with a master's degree in Mechanical Engineering, specializing in fluid
mechanics and propulsion.  A captain in the United States Navy, he has 
served
as a combat pilot in Iraq and Afghanistan and has earned copious awards and
commendations. He was selected for the astronaut program in 2009 as one of
14 members of NASA Astronaut Group 20, and graduated in 2011.

ARISS Chair Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, said, "The ARISS Team is excited to see
continuing great interest among the Astronauts and Astronaut Candidates who
are looking forward to supporting Amateur Radio activities through the
ARISS platform."

About ARISS

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies
that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), and the National Aeronautics and Space
Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration
of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by
organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard
the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the
help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with
large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these 
radio
contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space,
space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, go to:

www.ariss.org
www.amsat.org
www.arrl.org

Also, join us on Facebook:
Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)

Follow us on Twitter:
ARISS_status


[ANS thanks Dave Jordan, AA4KN and ARISS for the above information]


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AMSAT Events


Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around
the country.  Examples of these events are radio club meetings where
AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working
amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with
AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations,
forums, and/or demonstrations).

*Wednesday, 6 July 2016 ? Chehalis Valley Amateur Radio Society meeting
in Chehalis WA

*Saturday, 13 August 2016 ? KL7KC Hamfest in Fairbanks AK


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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ARISS News


Sucessful Contacts

* A telebridge contact via VK4KHZ with students at Briargreen Public 
School,
Nepean, ON, Canada was successful Mon  2016-06-13 at 15:19:15 UTC 31 deg.
Astronaut Timothy Peake, KG5BVI answered 15 questions for an audience of 
250
students along with parents and visitors.

Briargreen is an amazing K-6 open-concept school nestled in a suburban
community of west Ottawa in Ontario, Canada. It is a caring community of
diverse students, teachers and parents, who love to share both our in-class
and out-of-class experiences with each other. Some of our noteworthy 
special
events include our Kindergarten Chinese New Year parade, Terry Fox Run
activities and junior community games days. Our learning community has some
of the most wonderful students in the world! Visit our website at

briargreenps.ocdsb.ca/Pages/home.aspx

* Glenmore State High School,  Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia,
telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign was scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut was Tim Kopra KE5UDN

A telebridge contact via W6SRJ with students at Glenmore State High School,
Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia was successful Mon 2016-06-06
08:39:31 UTC 31 deg.

The audience assembled in the school?s 500 seat sports stadium.  All seats
were filled with an additional 100 persons standing as  astronaut Tim 
Kopra,
KE5UDN provided answers to questions from students.

Glenmore High School is a modern, progressive secondary school providing
quality education for students from years 7 to 12. Since its establishment
in 1975 Glenmore High School has earned a reputation for high quality
educational programs and services which develop a passion in students for
learning and life.

Glenmore SHS runs an extension Science/Math program named ?SCOPE? where
students enroll and work through year levels at an accelerated rate, which
allows them to finish traditional schooling early and conduct further
studies at our local university, to which we are partnered (Central 
Queensland
University), during their final year of schooling.

Students in the ?SCOPE- Science? program are encouraged to participate 
in our
schools astronomy club and robotics club as an extra curricula activity. 
The
schools astronomy club works with local primary schools, teaching about 
space
and running viewing evenings.

* Bouze Island Elementary and Junior High School, Homeji,  Japan,
direct via 8N3B
The ISS callsign was scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut was Timothy Peake KG5BVI

A direct contact via 8N3B with students at Bouze Island Elementary and
Junior High School, Homeji, Japan, was successful Sat  2016-06-04
08:31:09 UTC 74 deg. Astronaut Timothy Peake KG5BVI answered 16 questions
for students and an audience of 500.

Watch a video of the interview at
http://www.ariss.jp/bouze/bouze.wmv

Bouze Island is one of the Ieshima small Islands which are located in the
Seto Inland sea of Hyogo Prefecture in Japan. There are about 1400 people
on the island and are part of the marine products industry. They live with
simplicity and are friendly.  But the students of this Island have not had
a chance for scientific experience as part of their school education
because of their remote location. There are 140 persons in the elementary
school and 100 persons in the junior high school.


Upcoming Contacts

* Chuvash Republic, Russia, direct via TBD
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is  Oleg Skripochka RN3FU
Contact is a go for Sun 2016-06-19 09:30 UTC


Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.


[ANS thanks ARISS, Dave, AA4KN, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over


AMSAT Argentina Balloon Flight with Crossband Repeater

AMSAT Argentina plans a high altitude balloon launch carrying a
crossband repeater from Las Heras in the Mendoza province on
July 9, 2016. Launch is currently planned for 10:00 AM local time,
depending on weather conditions. AMSAT Argentina will also present
news of their satellite plans.

NEA-1 Repeater Information
--------------------------
Uplink:    145.725 Mhz FM (123.0 Hz CTCSS)
Downlink:  436.725 Mhz FM
APRS information will be relayed via:
http://aprs.fi/?call lu7aa-1 BALLOON NEA - 1

[ANS thanks AMSAT Argentina for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Joe Spier, K6WAO
k6wao at amsat dot org

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Sun Jun 19 04:36:34 2016
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:36:34 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] North Texas "Moon Day" for AMSAT,
	ARISS and Amateur Radio.
Message-ID: <008301d1c9e4$29354b20$7b9fe160$@net>

Greetings to all AMSAT friends in North and Central Texas.

July 16th, 2016 will be the date for the annual "Moon Day" at the Frontiers
of Flight Museum at Love Field in Dallas, TX, STEM event.  Check out
http://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day-2016/ for more information.  Moon Day
is a large space exploration and science themed STEM event from 10a-5P that
features numerous exhibitors, technology demonstrations, an ARISS contact
with the ISS and AMSAT/Amateur Radio as key elements.  Over 1500 attended
last year's event including many Boy/Girl Scouts and other young people and
families.  This year's event might be even bigger.

AS last year, AMSAT members from North Texas, along with the Dallas Amateur
Radio Club, will have a shared display space with STEM activities for people
to learn about satellites, orbital mechanics and the exciting possibilities
of personal communications through Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio
satellites.  Aside from the indoor space, we want to be able to offer
multiple opportunities for satellite pass demos on the outside of the
building as well.

Keith Pugh, W5IU will be the ARISS Mentor/coordinator for the scheduled
ARISS contact and has a support team for that but we need other Amateur
Satellite enthusiasts to help man the display space and also to run the pass
demos outside the facility.  I have communicated with the event coordinator
asking them to provide us an approved outside space and published promotion
and "Carrots" to get people out there.  Being summer and most likely hot.  I
also asked if we could have some sort of tent or easy-up to block the sun
from the operating point.

SO WHAT WE NEED are people to man the inside display table, where you will
get to explain some of the basics of Amateur Radio satellites, orbits,
footprints and cubesat to hundreds of inquisitive young people.  We also
need some experienced satellite and Amateur Radio operators who will be
willing to handle the heat outside and get people involved with this fun
aspect of our hobby.  (With enough of us we can do shifts).  There is quite
a good list of pass opportunities between 10a and 5p so you would not be
bored. 

Please let me or Keith, W5IU know if you can join us and help with a great
public outreach for Amateur Radio and AMSAT.

73

Tom Schuessler, N5HYP


From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Sun Jun 19 12:28:01 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 07:28:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 APRS digipeater mode
Message-ID: <CAPovOwfg0kjEfBjxpEriptaqLi3kisZMUnNkvZhcNrsfopoZBQ@mail.gmail.com>

BG2BHC sent out the following messages on Twitter this morning.  I am
going to be on as W5PFG-1 via LilacSat-2 on 1230 UTC pass:


LilacSat-2 multi-mode APRS digipeater is ON now. The uplink is on
144.350 and the downlink is on 437.200. @amsat @amsatuk

For the real-time mode, just use BJ1SI-1 as your first repeater. @amsat @amsatuk

For the delayed mode, use BJ1SI-2 and minutes to be delayed in ASCII
as your 1st and 2nd repeater. Pad 0 for bytes unused. @amsat @amsatuk


73,
Clayton
W5PFG

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Jun 19 16:50:52 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:50:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] C6AGZ active from the Bahamas (FL06)
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqyGjuFKYZwRCTT8EqBQair3BgwckPhdRo1D6S1ymykwA@mail.gmail.com>

KM4RTS is active today from Grand Bahama Island in the Bahamas as
C6AGZ. I just worked him on the last pass of FO-29. If you need the
grid (FL06) or country, he'll be on the following passes using two
FT-817s and an Arrow.

UKube-1: 1733Z
FO-29: 1810Z
AO-7: 2005Z (if in Mode B)
SO-50: 2103Z

Gabriel is a new ham. He's only been licensed since March and just
started working the linear transponders with two FT-817s a few days
ago, but he's doing a great job.

QSL via LoTW or direct to his home call.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 19 17:13:04 2016
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:13:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EM96 activation on FO-29 in about an hour
References: <2022898757.5569542.1466356384968.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2022898757.5569542.1466356384968.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I will run up to EM96 this afternoon to operate FO-29 on the 1812z pass.If anyone needs this grid, look for me in the lower part of the passband around 835-840.

C6AGZ will also be on the pass from Freeport Bahamas (FL06) and will be in the upper part of the passband around 860-870. Gabe is going to a whole lot more effort on his outing, so I certainly don't want to get in his way... hopefully this way we will not cause problems for each other or any stations trying to work us.

73 and see you on the birds! Kevin N4UFO

From saguaroastro at cox.net  Sun Jun 19 17:30:55 2016
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 10:30:55 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 APRS digipeater mode
In-Reply-To: <8cU91t00Y4F0Vt701cUAB0>
References: <8cU91t00Y4F0Vt701cUAB0>
Message-ID: <001201d1ca50$564aeb80$02e0c280$@net>

Clayton,

By "just use BJ1SI-1 as your first repeater" do you set BJ1SI-1 in the
packet path? 

Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org
623-572-0713
623-203-4121 (cell)
SaguaroAstro at cox.net

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clayton
Coleman
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 5:28 AM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 APRS digipeater mode

BG2BHC sent out the following messages on Twitter this morning.  I am
going to be on as W5PFG-1 via LilacSat-2 on 1230 UTC pass:


LilacSat-2 multi-mode APRS digipeater is ON now. The uplink is on
144.350 and the downlink is on 437.200. @amsat @amsatuk

For the real-time mode, just use BJ1SI-1 as your first repeater. @amsat
@amsatuk

For the delayed mode, use BJ1SI-2 and minutes to be delayed in ASCII
as your 1st and 2nd repeater. Pad 0 for bytes unused. @amsat @amsatuk


73,
Clayton
W5PFG
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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Sun Jun 19 17:48:24 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:48:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 APRS digipeater mode
In-Reply-To: <001201d1ca50$564aeb80$02e0c280$@net>
References: <001201d1ca50$564aeb80$02e0c280$@net>
Message-ID: <CAPovOwcQBA---MSryeyXFEwOqnQqazd_aTVG=LNsUr+XzQ-YhA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, BJ1SI-1 would be your UNPROTO path.  However, it was turned off
by the orbit I mentioned.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:
> Clayton,
>
> By "just use BJ1SI-1 as your first repeater" do you set BJ1SI-1 in the
> packet path?
>
> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.saguaroastro.org
> Thunderbird Radio Club
> www.w7tbc.org
> 623-572-0713
> 623-203-4121 (cell)
> SaguaroAstro at cox.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clayton
> Coleman
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 5:28 AM
> To: AMSAT-BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 APRS digipeater mode
>
> BG2BHC sent out the following messages on Twitter this morning.  I am
> going to be on as W5PFG-1 via LilacSat-2 on 1230 UTC pass:
>
>
> LilacSat-2 multi-mode APRS digipeater is ON now. The uplink is on
> 144.350 and the downlink is on 437.200. @amsat @amsatuk
>
> For the real-time mode, just use BJ1SI-1 as your first repeater. @amsat
> @amsatuk
>
> For the delayed mode, use BJ1SI-2 and minutes to be delayed in ASCII
> as your 1st and 2nd repeater. Pad 0 for bytes unused. @amsat @amsatuk
>
>
> 73,
> Clayton
> W5PFG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Sun Jun 19 18:29:11 2016
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:29:11 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1 Transponder Schedule
In-Reply-To: <CAPonRZ8mmpBDWKSEYKupnrLkyojXVhYNqB5m0pNS_vujdJp7-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPonRZ9YsYE9nqNz1Mx+Ma_MZQGK_W_E0pkL=bwBcv8POpkt8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrEt9gzftELE_HOmyU94FVm3aQ-fc7zBP+qR9LNThbBLg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPonRZ8mmpBDWKSEYKupnrLkyojXVhYNqB5m0pNS_vujdJp7-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAy53m59gyX0OyLDNFtpo_BAwW7M6utu0J9f51o6CbAhcuL8eg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi friends
Here is my report about Ukube-1 ;

https://youtu.be/bT5vkFT16wg

Has was reported , sometimes the signal drops a lot , as you can see at end
of this short video.

73

2016-06-18 14:38 GMT-03:00 Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com>:

> Paul and I hooked up on FUNcube-2/UKube-1 during the 17:15 UTC pass.  That
> was my first contact on this bird.
>
> Unlike AO-73, I found the transponder uplink to be stable during the pass,
> changing only a few hundred hertz beyond Doppler corrections, so I was able
> to use full UL/DL Doppler correction, always hearing my downlink.  In the
> case of my IC-9100, I found the uplink to be 14.3 KHz higher than
> specified.
>
> My UL corrected Doppler.sqf file for SatPC32 contains the following entries
> for CW, Voice, and Telemetry:
>
> UKUBE-1,145940,435084.6,CW,CW,REV,0,0,CW
> UKUBE-1,145940,435084.3,USB,LSB,REV,0,0,Voice U/V
> UKUBE-1,145915,,USB,,,,TLM
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> > The FUNcube-2 telemetry beacon is also on and very strong. It has been
> > on continuously since yesterday. I've worked it on both day and night
> > passes.
> >
> > There was what appeared to be a reset on the first pass this afternoon
> > where the transponder switched off midpass for a few seconds.
> >
> > In addition, the CW beacon from the satellite's primary transceiver
> > desenses the transponder uplink for about 20 seconds or so when it's
> > transmitting.
> >
> > The uplink offset appears to be anywhere from +12 - +15 kHz from
> published.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bob <WB4SON at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Now that the transponder is switched on will it be on 24/7 or does it
> > shift
> > > to data
> > >
> > > 73 WB4SON
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> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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From w7lrd at comcast.net  Sun Jun 19 18:47:04 2016
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 18:47:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] C6AGZ active from the Bahamas (FL06)
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqyGjuFKYZwRCTT8EqBQair3BgwckPhdRo1D6S1ymykwA@mail.gmail.com>
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was he on this last pass? Could not find him 
73 
Bob W7LRD 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm at arrl.net> 
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:50:52 AM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] C6AGZ active from the Bahamas (FL06) 

KM4RTS is active today from Grand Bahama Island in the Bahamas as 
C6AGZ. I just worked him on the last pass of FO-29. If you need the 
grid (FL06) or country, he'll be on the following passes using two 
FT-817s and an Arrow. 

UKube-1: 1733Z 
FO-29: 1810Z 
AO-7: 2005Z (if in Mode B) 
SO-50: 2103Z 

Gabriel is a new ham. He's only been licensed since March and just 
started working the linear transponders with two FT-817s a few days 
ago, but he's doing a great job. 

QSL via LoTW or direct to his home call. 

73, 

Paul, N8HM 
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sun Jun 19 18:48:52 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:48:52 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] C6AGZ active from the Bahamas (FL06)
In-Reply-To: <91045220.22038588.1466362024615.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
References: <CABzOSOqyGjuFKYZwRCTT8EqBQair3BgwckPhdRo1D6S1ymykwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<91045220.22038588.1466362024615.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
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Me neither, Bob -- but I heard you loud and clear!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6

On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:47, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> wrote:

was he on this last pass? Could not find him 
73 
Bob W7LRD 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm at arrl.net> 
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:50:52 AM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] C6AGZ active from the Bahamas (FL06) 

KM4RTS is active today from Grand Bahama Island in the Bahamas as 
C6AGZ. I just worked him on the last pass of FO-29. If you need the 
grid (FL06) or country, he'll be on the following passes using two 
FT-817s and an Arrow. 

UKube-1: 1733Z 
FO-29: 1810Z 
AO-7: 2005Z (if in Mode B) 
SO-50: 2103Z 

Gabriel is a new ham. He's only been licensed since March and just 
started working the linear transponders with two FT-817s a few days 
ago, but he's doing a great job. 

QSL via LoTW or direct to his home call. 

73, 

Paul, N8HM 
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Jun 19 18:50:13 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:50:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] C6AGZ active from the Bahamas (FL06)
In-Reply-To: <91045220.22038588.1466362024615.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
References: <CABzOSOqyGjuFKYZwRCTT8EqBQair3BgwckPhdRo1D6S1ymykwA@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes he was. I wasn't on myself, but I saw some tweets of people working him.

Unfortunately, I also saw that some lids were hammering the
transponder with high powered CW, making it difficult for someone with
just five watts to get in.

He plans to be on the next AO-7 pass, though if the high power CW lids
are still around, then it'll probably jump to Mode A before you're in
the footprint.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> wrote:
> was he on this last pass?   Could not find him
> 73
> Bob W7LRD
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm at arrl.net>
> To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:50:52 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] C6AGZ active from the Bahamas (FL06)
>
>
> KM4RTS is active today from Grand Bahama Island in the Bahamas as
> C6AGZ. I just worked him on the last pass of FO-29. If you need the
> grid (FL06) or country, he'll be on the following passes using two
> FT-817s and an Arrow.
>
> UKube-1: 1733Z
> FO-29: 1810Z
> AO-7: 2005Z (if in Mode B)
> SO-50: 2103Z
>
> Gabriel is a new ham. He's only been licensed since March and just
> started working the linear transponders with two FT-817s a few days
> ago, but he's doing a great job.
>
> QSL via LoTW or direct to his home call.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
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From rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com  Sun Jun 19 18:01:26 2016
From: rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com (Rupesh Lad)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 23:31:26 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Swayam Satellite Launching on 22 June 2016 by ISRO
In-Reply-To: <CAD1MXRq1pufc3TLY4k_q56aPzGVBN6RcpC8x5bwffkdoVovyfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD1MXRqj+44OHXY4jLz04eqqmLpbOronS7eqFNJtXJLkSA12dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD1MXRq1pufc3TLY4k_q56aPzGVBN6RcpC8x5bwffkdoVovyfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD1MXRpJNcb_RHOk8CG1bVQHGrD9eBzxMrdZmPgmfNR5qpqVeA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

Greetings from India!

DE VU2LRD, Rupesh Lad from College of Engineering Pune.

We are extremely glad to inform you that COEP's first  satellite SWAYAM
developed by the students of the COEP Satellite Team shall be launched by
ISRO on 22 June, from Satish Dhawan Space Centre (SHAR), Sriharikota at 9am.

Swayam has a mass of 990 grams and dimensions of 10cm x 10cm x 11.35cm. It
will be launched by Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle PSLV-C34. After being
launched into its orbit, Swayam shall stabilize itself passively i.e.
without consumption of electric power. This concept of stabilization is the
first of its kind in India.  It also provides a messaging service for the
Ground Stations in the HAM band. A functional Ground station is also
developed by team to communicate with Swayam and have sucvessfully received
data from 40+ satellites.

Swayam will downlink analog CW Morse beacon at frequency of 437.025 MHz
with a gap of 90 secs between successive beacons. I request you all to
receive the beacon data and report your reception details on our website -

www.coep.org.in/csat

Swayam TLEs will be uploaded post launch on our website mentioned above.

Cheers!

Thanks
73,
VU2LRD / VU2COE
Rupesh Lad,
COEP CSAT Team

From saguaroastro at cox.net  Sun Jun 19 19:21:58 2016
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:21:58 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 APRS digipeater mode
In-Reply-To: <8hnG1t00j18QHdM01hoRxw>
References: <001201d1ca50$564aeb80$02e0c280$@net> <8hnG1t00j18QHdM01hoRxw>
Message-ID: <002501d1ca5f$d9642d60$8c2c8820$@net>

DOH! I may just add it in if they turn it on again. 



www.w7tbc.org
623-572-0713
623-203-4121 (cell)
SaguaroAstro at cox.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Coleman [mailto:kayakfishtx at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 10:48 AM
To: Rick Tejera
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 APRS digipeater mode

Yes, BJ1SI-1 would be your UNPROTO path.  However, it was turned off
by the orbit I mentioned.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:
> Clayton,
>
> By "just use BJ1SI-1 as your first repeater" do you set BJ1SI-1 in the
> packet path?
>
> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.saguaroastro.org
> Thunderbird Radio Club
> www.w7tbc.org
> 623-572-0713
> 623-203-4121 (cell)
> SaguaroAstro at cox.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clayton
> Coleman
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 5:28 AM
> To: AMSAT-BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 APRS digipeater mode
>
> BG2BHC sent out the following messages on Twitter this morning.  I am
> going to be on as W5PFG-1 via LilacSat-2 on 1230 UTC pass:
>
>
> LilacSat-2 multi-mode APRS digipeater is ON now. The uplink is on
> 144.350 and the downlink is on 437.200. @amsat @amsatuk
>
> For the real-time mode, just use BJ1SI-1 as your first repeater. @amsat
> @amsatuk
>
> For the delayed mode, use BJ1SI-2 and minutes to be delayed in ASCII
> as your 1st and 2nd repeater. Pad 0 for bytes unused. @amsat @amsatuk
>
>
> 73,
> Clayton
> W5PFG
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From w5pfg at amsat.org  Sun Jun 19 19:29:25 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:29:25 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] C6AGZ active from the Bahamas (FL06)
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrzgj6iCqzCytStOr2qrJMX1h0M-vWF8POpWO8cs9TCVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOqyGjuFKYZwRCTT8EqBQair3BgwckPhdRo1D6S1ymykwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<91045220.22038588.1466362024615.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
	<CABzOSOrzgj6iCqzCytStOr2qrJMX1h0M-vWF8POpWO8cs9TCVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28cf6729-b5e6-5af6-4f59-1fede5e14880@amsat.org>

On the 18:10 UTC FO-29 pass, C6AGZ was around 435.863 MHz (freq. at 
satellite.)  As he drifted more toward the center during the pass, 
stronger stations than him somewhat overcame his QRP signal.

I recorded the pass in SDR.  Unfortunately a few stations on CW showed 
up running entirely too much power and most other signals on the 
transponder's pass band got much, much weaker.  It's like someone 
flipped a switch.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 6/19/2016 13:50, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Yes he was. I wasn't on myself, but I saw some tweets of people working him.
>
> Unfortunately, I also saw that some lids were hammering the
> transponder with high powered CW, making it difficult for someone with
> just five watts to get in.
>
> He plans to be on the next AO-7 pass, though if the high power CW lids
> are still around, then it'll probably jump to Mode A before you're in
> the footprint.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd at comcast.net> wrote:
>> was he on this last pass?   Could not find him
>> 73
>> Bob W7LRD

From kk4oyj at gmail.com  Sun Jun 19 20:14:11 2016
From: kk4oyj at gmail.com (John, 9H5G)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:14:11 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] C6ATS Activities - 2017
Message-ID: <6D8482D1-AB7F-40F4-8CEB-4D6542E9803D@gmail.com>

The post about C6AGW reminded me that my plans for 2017 have changed and I'll once again be active in C6 from January. I expect to activate the following grids: FL 05, 15, 14, 24, 23, 22, and possibly 21. Some of these will be /MM as they lack land ?

Unless I magically come across a pair of 817s or the like I'll only be on the FM birds although I may do some APRS once I get that figured out.

73 de John, 9H5G

From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 19 23:13:37 2016
From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 23:13:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2016 ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference),
 St. Petersburg, FL, September 16 - 19, 2016
In-Reply-To: <1161627630.6257399.1466377783114.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1850277821.6245330.1466372383758.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1850277821.6245330.1466372383758.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1161627630.6257399.1466377783114.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1648921620.6241067.1466378017571.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>





2016 ARRL / TAPR DCC?(Digital Communications Conference )?


Hilton Saint Petersburg Bayfront Hotel?Tampa, FL?
September 16 - 19, 2016??
DCC Information at:?www.tapr.org/dcc


   

  

From g0mrf at aol.com  Mon Jun 20 04:42:20 2016
From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:42:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1
Message-ID: <1556c1dcf60-29fc-604b@webprd-m108.mail.aol.com>

Hi.

Thank you for the very nice video which clearly shows the frequency offset of the transponder.

I believe the drop in signal that you saw several times during the pass occurs when the satellite's primary transmitter is active. Nice to see some signal coming through at this time. It appears to be several S-points down.

Hope you completed the QSO with your friend in LU

Regards

David  G0MRF


Hi friends
Here is my report about Ukube-1 ;

https://youtu.be/bT5vkFT16wg

Has was reported , sometimes the signal drops a lot , as you can see at end
of this short video.

73


From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Jun 20 12:49:00 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 08:49:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: SolarImpulse: New York to Sevilla
In-Reply-To: <903679359.1141688.1466409579257.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <903679359.1141688.1466409579257.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<903679359.1141688.1466409579257.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1fef31ac7ce4a791f4eeb3c32e63176d@mail.gmail.com>

Solar Impulse is in the air for the first solar solo cross-atlantic flight.
You can see the track and live cockpit images here:
http://www.solarimpulse.com/leg-15-from-New_York-to-Sevilla

Bob, WB4APR

From rwmcgwier at gmail.com  Mon Jun 20 13:03:51 2016
From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 09:03:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+K5gzd9_QzDAnGMCsxdnTQFLVCH7wN-GYEfohFUJfh5Asfyyw@mail.gmail.com>

The links are now all fixed and the slides are now properly redacted.  The
redactions will decrease on gaining permission from Rincon Research to put
in the pictures they marked as proprietary (before they put the data sheet
on their web site).

The redactions due to ITAR will remain.

You may take these slides and post them anywhere.  Please spread the word
on the geo links.

Multiple HEO's are being worked on.  I am in the mode of saying as little
as possible until something firm is in hand.  One P3E,  we got permission
to ride,  but the cost was more than source of funding had.

This story and the story of GEO will be articles in upcoming AMSAT
journals.  I have to get prepublication approval on all.

Bob


On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier at gmail.com> wrote:

> Neglect the "First geosynchronous" article. I did not write it and it is
> like all mistakes, firmly in archives and not fixable.
>
> http://www.hume.vt.edu/geo/
>
> 73s
> Bob
>
>
> --
> Bob McGwier
> Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
> Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
> Research Professor Virginia Tech
> Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
> Technology
> Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
> Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
> Director of AMSAT
>



-- 
Bob McGwier
Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
Research Professor Virginia Tech
Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
Technology
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
Director of AMSAT

From kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org  Mon Jun 20 14:12:53 2016
From: kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org (Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 09:12:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <eb78d393-2933-f34b-df49-b5eb52b20024@rogers.com>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>	<CABzOSOqN5XV_5bj5+UZrvfmEHPp8Z3hRLH9KErcQA2wHVnx9aA@mail.gmail.com>
	<eb78d393-2933-f34b-df49-b5eb52b20024@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <000301d1cafd$d7438c80$85caa580$@org>

Heathkit?  Are they back in business?  I loved those kits.  My first was an
HW-16 and then the VFO that went with it.  I built an HW-101 and the 100kc
tuner, HW-2036 (bad rig but the A model wasn't bad) and a few other little
clocks, and other things.  I thought about the SB series amps but by then
they were on the way out.

Kevin, WB5RUE
EL09uf
I stopped asking people "how stupid can you be?"  Too many were taking that
as a challenge.

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ken
Alexander
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:13 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B

If it's a matter of getting it assembled cheaply then send me...I'll go.
I've built plenty of Heathkit and Elecraft equipment and last summer I
changed the brake pads on my Toyota, so I'm feeling pretty certain I can
handle the work.  The only problem is I don't have much vacation time built
up, so they would have to send me up on a Friday afternoon and I would have
to be back home Sunday evening.  Otherwise my boss won't be too happy! If
they could land the Soyuz spacecraft somewhere near Toronto I could take a
cab the rest of the way home!

I'm probably a 2XL in a spacesuit.

Ready any time!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS



On 2016-06-17 3:09 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> If we could afford to pay astronauts to assemble a HEO, then we could 
> afford to launch six of them to GTO without bothering.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE 
> <kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
>> I'd be happy with another AO-40 style bird that worked as advertized.  
>> Given that there is always the possibility of something going wrong 
>> along the way I was sorely disappointed that it happened to THIS one.  
>> I'm sure that someday AMSAT will give us a long period orbit bird, 
>> standing by -- antennas dusted off...  It would be nice, but probably 
>> not practical given the huge workload of the ISS crew, that they 
>> could send the major parts up in sections and have it assembled there 
>> and then pushed out the airlock to be launched.  Yes, I know "Welcome to
Fantasy Island!"
>>
>> Kevin, WB5RUE
>> I am Voltohn of Borg, resistance is E/I, you will be attenuated!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Robert McGwier
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:16 PM
>> To: amsat bb
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
>>
>> Neglect the "First geosynchronous" article. I did not write it and it 
>> is like all mistakes, firmly in archives and not fixable.
>>
>> http://www.hume.vt.edu/geo/
>>
>> 73s
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob McGwier
>> Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
>> Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor 
>> Virginia Tech Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for 
>> National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: 
>> N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. 
>> (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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>> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From plaws0 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 20 15:11:22 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:11:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase 4B
In-Reply-To: <000301d1cafd$d7438c80$85caa580$@org>
References: <CA+K5gzfSOsu+gKNJsycxbr0Zw91GeJoJj6MwZoigizvv=hT=Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<007301d1c8c9$9f57fb20$de07f160$@org>
	<CABzOSOqN5XV_5bj5+UZrvfmEHPp8Z3hRLH9KErcQA2wHVnx9aA@mail.gmail.com>
	<eb78d393-2933-f34b-df49-b5eb52b20024@rogers.com>
	<000301d1cafd$d7438c80$85caa580$@org>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ9zdEiX=uk=UnMnzdUxoXUs81ZwfuSyjh=VRG3DU-U9hw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
<kevin at eaglecreekobservatory.org> wrote:
> Heathkit?  Are they back in business?

They are.  They have an AM radio kit for $150.  No satellites or
satellite gear that I can see.  http://heathkit.com/


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From info at gaussteam.com  Mon Jun 20 16:50:31 2016
From: info at gaussteam.com (GAUSS TEAM)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:50:31 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] UNISAT-6 celebrates its second anniversary in orbit
Message-ID: <CAO=E2Yqd4AFuOWXqufRVLJscxbW8FCgKvX5yzcYKs3uqAE4-OA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

We are glad to inform you that UniSat-6 has turned two!

Our eighth satellite has been launched on the 19th of June 2014 and, after
two years, it continues to be fully operative and its onboard systems are
functioning well.
Such result let us collect a great amount of data and gave us the
opportunity to test our own technology in space, demonstrating the
reliability of our products and confirming the capabilities of the UniSat
platform.

We are very thankful to everyone involved in the project and to the
radioamateurs for their feedback.

For more information about our services <http://www.gaussteam.com/services/>and
products <http://www.gaussteam.com/products/>and for updated news
about the UniSat-6
mission <http://www.gaussteam.com/unisat-6-mission/>, visit our website
<http://www.gaussteam.com/>.

We are looking forward to the next mission: UniSat-7 is going to be
launched in 2017! Click here <http://www.gaussteam.com/satellites/unisat-7/>to
find out more.

Best regards,

the GAUSS Team
-----
*GAUSS Srl*
*Group of Astrodynamics for the Use of Space Systems*
Via Poggio Moiano 23
00199 Roma - ITALY
+390697881440

website <http://www.gaussteam.com/>
facebook <https://www.facebook.com/GaussSrl?fref=ts>
twitter <https://twitter.com/gaussteam>
linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/company/gauss-srl>

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Mon Jun 20 17:05:30 2016
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:05:30 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [amsat-bb] UNISAT-6 celebrates its second anniversary in orbit
Message-ID: <28724373.1466442331477.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Congratulations on the continued success of your program.

Has your organization considered an open comms mission for amateurs on any of your existing or future spacecraft?

73, Drew KO4MA




-----Original Message-----
>From: GAUSS TEAM <info at gaussteam.com>
>Sent: Jun 20, 2016 12:50 PM
>To: info at gaussteam.com
>Subject: [amsat-bb] UNISAT-6 celebrates its second anniversary in orbit
>
>Dear All,
>
>We are glad to inform you that UniSat-6 has turned two!
>
>Our eighth satellite has been launched on the 19th of June 2014 and, after
>two years, it continues to be fully operative and its onboard systems are
>functioning well.
>Such result let us collect a great amount of data and gave us the
>opportunity to test our own technology in space, demonstrating the
>reliability of our products and confirming the capabilities of the UniSat
>platform.
>
>We are very thankful to everyone involved in the project and to the
>radioamateurs for their feedback.
>
>For more information about our services <http://www.gaussteam.com/services/>and
>products <http://www.gaussteam.com/products/>and for updated news
>about the UniSat-6
>mission <http://www.gaussteam.com/unisat-6-mission/>, visit our website
><http://www.gaussteam.com/>.
>
>We are looking forward to the next mission: UniSat-7 is going to be
>launched in 2017! Click here <http://www.gaussteam.com/satellites/unisat-7/>to
>find out more.
>
>Best regards,
>
>the GAUSS Team
>-----
>*GAUSS Srl*
>*Group of Astrodynamics for the Use of Space Systems*
>Via Poggio Moiano 23
>00199 Roma - ITALY
>+390697881440
>
>website <http://www.gaussteam.com/>
>facebook <https://www.facebook.com/GaussSrl?fref=ts>
>twitter <https://twitter.com/gaussteam>
>linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/company/gauss-srl>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Mon Jun 20 18:38:02 2016
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 14:38:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR testing:portable operation
Message-ID: <CAJUhCTM0itqztY1=diugVbYb6Z+THLCy3VC3JcaEc-q-tP+3zw@mail.gmail.com>

Had the B210 in the driveway with the portable gear this am. Using one
receiver, was able to hear myself on FO-29's downlink at 2 degrees
elevation, through a bunch of houses and trees. 50 watts from the 857d
as the (twoards the very end) uplink.

No filtering other than what's in the preamps.

Remained set up for AO-7. Battery caved in on laptop. End of fun.

Using HDSDR as the client.

Indoor tests revealed no problems using it as the downlink rx, either
for VHF or UHF.

Real field tests eliminate suprises.

Will be testing the power supplies/sequencers/filtering/amp modules
later this week. Plan on the 8640b as an exciter.

Norm n3ykf

From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Mon Jun 20 18:51:13 2016
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 19:51:13 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium2016 Final Call for Speakers
Message-ID: <CAHOBG6VeVLApciN_i9zetUktHfKZ2+HWwcxvD0fK_zBTpLf2SQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

This is the final call for speakers for the AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2016 which
will be held from Saturday, July 29 to Sunday, July 31, 2016 at the Holiday
Inn, Guildford, GU2 7XZ, United Kingdom:

https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/

AMSAT-UK invites speakers, to cover topics about Amateur satellites,
CubeSats, Nanosats, space and associated activities, for this event.

They are also invited to submit papers for subsequent publishing on the
AMSAT-UK web site or Oscar News.

Those wishing to participate should contact Dave, G4DPZ, dave at g4dpz dot
me dot uk

73

Dave, G4DPZ

From kg2ix at optonline.net  Mon Jun 20 20:26:54 2016
From: kg2ix at optonline.net (Keith McDonnell)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:26:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 Doppler.sqf
Message-ID: <B72B7339-CFF8-48B4-B06C-36DF95E9D7E2@optonline.net>

Hello to all. I messed up my Doppler.sqf file. I went my looking to download a copy, and the newest one is from 2015, which I found on the -uk website. 
Would someone be able to email me , off reflector , an up to date copy, with values that work for them?
If Ao-85 is in there , that would be great too. 
I am using a ts-2000, in case there is a difference in frequency values amount rigs. (Which I assume there shouldn't be). Thank you everyone!
73, Keith
Kg2ix at optonline.net

From rupert.hamblin at gmail.com  Mon Jun 20 21:18:38 2016
From: rupert.hamblin at gmail.com (Rupert Hamblin)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 22:18:38 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat at Friecrichshafen
Message-ID: <CAJJsJpSi9EdMVyHfnk033_BDycccWbZfQXUgHcLVVnbZvhrrcw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I'm planning on attending the Hamfest at Friedrichshafen end of this week -
was wondering what Amsat representation there'll be there, either on stands
or presentations / talks...?

Cheers

RH / G0TKZ

From peter.guelzow at kourou.de  Mon Jun 20 21:35:20 2016
From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_G=FClzow?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 23:35:20 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat at Friecrichshafen
In-Reply-To: <CAJJsJpSi9EdMVyHfnk033_BDycccWbZfQXUgHcLVVnbZvhrrcw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJJsJpSi9EdMVyHfnk033_BDycccWbZfQXUgHcLVVnbZvhrrcw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <181DCD58-1FF5-43D5-8513-C322D59A69A7@kourou.de>

Presentation about Es'hail-2  P4A

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1125394134170034&id=168177559891701


73s Peter DB2OS






Am 20. Juni 2016 23:18:38 MESZ, schrieb Rupert Hamblin <rupert.hamblin at gmail.com>:
>Hi All,
>
>I'm planning on attending the Hamfest at Friedrichshafen end of this
>week -
>was wondering what Amsat representation there'll be there, either on
>stands
>or presentations / talks...?
>
>Cheers
>
>RH / G0TKZ
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>of AMSAT-NA.
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>program!
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From martha at amsat.org  Mon Jun 20 21:37:20 2016
From: martha at amsat.org (Martha)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:37:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
Message-ID: <CAPk0USwgqoJGnGA=14rxjQfeRtu+7HZgPiW=QkFb+A7s7C4uvw@mail.gmail.com>

The office will be closed Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of this week.  I
will be back in on Friday, June 24th

-- 
73- Martha

From kg2ix at optonline.net  Mon Jun 20 21:22:16 2016
From: kg2ix at optonline.net (Keith McDonnell)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:22:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler.sqf
Message-ID: <27588E7F-9CEC-420B-8A57-E545FAE353E1@optonline.net>

Thank you to all who helped me out so fast! I now have a few copies of files. Thank you all so much. Best of health and happiness to all . 73, Keith

From wmy at isac.gov.in  Tue Jun 21 02:52:28 2016
From: wmy at isac.gov.in (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS])
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:22:28 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Swayam Satellite Launching on 22 June 2016 by ISRO
In-Reply-To: <CAD1MXRpJNcb_RHOk8CG1bVQHGrD9eBzxMrdZmPgmfNR5qpqVeA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD1MXRqj+44OHXY4jLz04eqqmLpbOronS7eqFNJtXJLkSA12dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD1MXRq1pufc3TLY4k_q56aPzGVBN6RcpC8x5bwffkdoVovyfA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD1MXRpJNcb_RHOk8CG1bVQHGrD9eBzxMrdZmPgmfNR5qpqVeA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160621025227.BF85B864D@lansing182.amsat.org>

  All of us here in Upagarah Amateur Radio Club at ISRO Satellite Centre
convey our Good wishes and Greetings for a successful launch and
commissioning of SWAYAM.

Our Good wishes for a successful PSLV C34 launch and greetings for a
successful mission accomplishment of all the 20 satellites.

73 de

Quoting Rupesh Lad <rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com>:

> Dear All,
>
> Greetings from India!
>
> DE VU2LRD, Rupesh Lad from College of Engineering Pune.
>
> We are extremely glad to inform you that COEP's first? satellite SWAYAM
> developed by the students of the COEP Satellite Team shall be launched by
> ISRO on 22 June, from Satish Dhawan Space Centre (SHAR), Sriharikota at
> 9am.
>
> Swayam has a mass of 990 grams and dimensions of 10cm x 10cm x 11.35cm.
It
> will be launched by Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle PSLV-C34. After being
> launched into its orbit, Swayam shall stabilize itself passively i.e.
> without consumption of electric power. This concept of stabilization is
> the
> first of its kind in India.? It also provides a messaging service for
the
> Ground Stations in the HAM band. A functional Ground station is also
> developed by team to communicate with Swayam and have sucvessfully
> received
> data from 40+ satellites.
>
> Swayam will downlink analog CW Morse beacon at frequency of 437.025 MHz
> with a gap of 90 secs between successive beacons. I request you all to
> receive the beacon data and report your reception details on our website
-
>
> www.coep.org.in/csat[1]
>
> Swayam TLEs will be uploaded post launch on our website mentioned above.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Thanks
> 73,
> VU2LRD / VU2COE
> Rupesh Lad,
> COEP CSAT Team
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ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(Office)91-80-25082598/25082054/25082192
Mobile:? 91-9880 341 456
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Tue Jun 21 07:13:40 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 03:13:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-21 08:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <928cfd.848a109.449a4324@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-21  08:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Gagarin From Space, "Slavic Commonwealth" Sochi, Russia,  direct via 
R2?16SS (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS  (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Skripochka RN3FU (***)
Contact was  successful Sun 2016-06-19 09:30 UTC (***)

Ufa, Russia, direct via  TBD (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS (***)
The  scheduled astronaut is Oleg Skripochka RN3FU (***)
Contact is a go for Thu  2016-06-30 07:55 UTC (***)

Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium, Bruchsal,  Germany, direct via DN1JKG
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ (***)
Contact is a  go for: Fri 2016-07-01 08:31:23 UTC 74 deg (***)

Exp. 46 back on  earth. Congratulations on a job well done! (***)
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy  Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
*********************************
**********************************************

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-21 08:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1064. (***)
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1029.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time  slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A  complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas Islands,  and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-14 04:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  46 back on earth. Congratulations on a job well done! (***)
Tim Kopra  KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP

Exp. 47  on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 21 11:37:26 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:37:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 PSK31 on Field Day
Message-ID: <CABzOSOr0j4BdT-iiG+CecRQMcGVdM88VJDDjAZg6-nT65sC1Gw@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone planning to work the NO-84 PSK31 transponder during Field Day?

Even if you don't have two way capability from your Field Day satellite
station, it would be fun to team up with your digital op and have them
uplink while you receive and then shout back and forth the details for the
QSOs. If you aren't in shouting distance, you could always coordinate via
HTs.

Remember that for AMSAT Field Day, digital contacts are worth three points
each, but you're only allowed one QSO on each active digipeater. You can
make as many QSOs as you want on the NO-84 PSK31 transponder.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From my.callsign at verizon.net  Tue Jun 21 14:00:39 2016
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:00:39 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 PSK31 on Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOr0j4BdT-iiG+CecRQMcGVdM88VJDDjAZg6-nT65sC1Gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOr0j4BdT-iiG+CecRQMcGVdM88VJDDjAZg6-nT65sC1Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a20e7526-b9ad-b907-3828-28186e462d44@verizon.net>

Paul,

Unfortunately we will not be in the foot print long enough to work each 
other, but there is a pass here in the West right at 1800utc. If someone 
is going to be on the satellite, I can be there also. (10m band 
conditions permitting )

A couple of suggestions:

1.  Use the DopplerPSK V:0.2 program to transmit.
2.  Update the TLE's in the program.
3.  Set up a Field Day Satellite macro. Hopefully a terrestrial PSK-31 
station won't try to go back to you on 10 m.

Here is what I plan to use for the macro;

{
     "text": "cq  FD cq FD satellite MYCALL MYCALL "
}


Good luck....

BOB
KO6TZ




Is anyone planning to work the NO-84 PSK31 transponder during Field Day?

Even if you don't have two way capability from your Field Day satellite
station, it would be fun to team up with your digital op and have them
uplink while you receive and then shout back and forth the details for the
QSOs. If you aren't in shouting distance, you could always coordinate via
HTs.

Remember that for AMSAT Field Day, digital contacts are worth three points
each, but you're only allowed one QSO on each active digipeater. You can
make as many QSOs as you want on the NO-84 PSK31 transponder.

73,

Paul, N8HM


From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue Jun 21 14:24:38 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:24:38 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Prescott Hamfest on 11 June - report
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUf7T9FU-tyJOYbvh5ArGPnZY97kHKFVtMGB2r-dgc7ALw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I'm a little tardy in posting this report, but better late than never...

Back on 11 June, I had an AMSAT booth at the Prescott Hamfest, on the
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University campus in Prescott. There have been
hamfests in and around Prescott over the years, but this was the first
time attending a hamfest at Embry-Riddle. In fact, I had never been on
the campus until this morning. The university's Eagle Amateur Radio Club
was the co-sponsor of the event, along with the Yavapai Amateur Radio Club.
The hamfest actually started the day before at noon, but I was not able to
make it up there for that day. The Saturday portion of the hamfest was
scheduled to run from 8am (1500 UTC) until 5pm (0000 UTC). Most had packed
up and left before 5pm, but it was still a good day.

The university's Student Union building was the site of the AMSAT booth.
Nice, air-conditioned, and with electricity to power one of my tablets. I
alternated between running SatPC32, HDSDR with my SDRplay receiver for
general listening, and ADS-B software with the SDRplay to watch the planes
flying around northern Arizona. SDR has been a popular topic whenever I
have one of my receivers on display, or when I use an SDR receiver during a
demonstration. This was no exception. It was too bright, and a little too
warm, to run the SDR receiver and tablet outside for my demonstrations.
Having that set up at my booth was more than sufficient to start
conversations about that and extending into satellite operating. Having
copies of the new 2016 edition of the AMSAT "Getting Started with Amateur
Satellites" book on hand was big. In the past, I'd still have copies of the
previous edition of this book for hamfests I visited in June. Thanks to
Steve Belter N9IP, I received a couple of boxes with these new books, and
they were popular at the hamfest.

During the day, I had demonstrations on 5 different passes. In the morning,
I worked an AO-85 and an FO-29 pass from outside the building. The AO-85
pass was a nice cross-country pass, with stations heard from coast to
coast. I used my Icom IC-2730A mobile radio and Elk log periodic to make a
few contacts. Some Embry-Riddle students were watching me work this pass,
which was a nice bonus. In the late morning and mid-afternoon, a couple of
FO-29 passes came by. I used one of my FT-817s with the Elk, working
half-duplex, to show that it really doesn't take a lot to get on this SSB
satellite. I made a few contacts on each of those passes. And there were a
pair of ISS passes that led to a couple of contacts, including one with
XE3ISS in Cancun at a distance of just over 2900km - a personal best for an
ISS QSO, packet or voice. I used only my Kenwood TH-D72A HT and Elk log
periodic to make the ISS packet QSOs via APRS messages. No computer or
tablet was needed, and I have relearned the fine art of quickly tapping
messages out on a DTMF keypad, as was done in the past with the non-smart
mobile phones. :-)

At the end of the hamfest, the organizers said they felt it was a success,
and are hoping the 2017 Prescott Hamfest could be held at Embry-Riddle.
AMSAT thanks both the Eagle Amateur Radio Club at Embry-Riddle and the
Yavapai Amateur Radio Club for providing a booth and helping promote the
satellite demonstrations throughout the day.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From amsat at wd9ewk.net  Tue Jun 21 14:26:11 2016
From: amsat at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:26:11 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Post-hamfest road trip on 11-12 June - report (long)
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUeE=JmL_iGE0_6K_iNZTkJTSAYA_hK0XBRB3eMPE9iz6A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi again!

After the Prescott Hamfest on 11 June, I planned on making a loop through
northern Arizona before returning home the following evening (12 June). I
ended up making stops in 3 grids (this included a grid boundary), three
national monuments, and making an official ARRL National Parks on the Air
(NPOTA) activation in the process. And, of course, having fun while doing
all of this...

When I packed up my stuff at the Prescott Hamfest on Saturday (11 June)
afternoon, and after making a quick stop for dinner as I left Prescott, I
drove north on AZ-89 toward the I-40 freeway. On the way up to I-40 is the
DM34/DM35 grid boundary, and a spot I have operated from in the past. There
is a county road that runs parallel to AZ-89 in that area, near a cement
plant, and this was the spot I looked to operate from. I parked on the grid
boundary, used my GPS receiver to confirm my location, and took pictures of
my setup. I had an XW-2F pass coming by about 45 minutes after I arrived,
and worked that pass with my FT-817ND/SDRplay combination. Only one station
was heard, K0NW in California, but one contact was a nice start to my
efforts at this location.

The pass I had targeted as the best for handing out contacts with these two
grids was an SO-50 pass around 7pm (0200 UTC). I was worried about how I
would be working this pass, after a quick and heavy rain storm passed
through the area after the XW-2F pass. The rain quickly went away, and I
didn't have to put my radios in the car or under some sort of cover to
shield them from the rain. Short of seeing lightning in the area, I wanted
to work this pass, and I did. Twelve QSOs went in the log on this pass,
with stations from coast to coast and also in Canada.

I had over an hour until the next pass I worked at DM34/DM35, a western
SO-50 pass. Between passes, I updated my logbook with the QSOs from the
0200 UTC SO-50 pass, and even uploaded them to Logbook of the World. I had
good coverage on the mobile phone network, so I took advantage of that and
also tried to quickly get at least a few of these QSOs turned into QSLs in
LOTW.

By the time the 0340 UTC SO-50 pass came, there was virtually no light left
in the western sky. Out with a flashlight, and back on the radio for the
west-coast pass. I worked 8 more stations, in Canada and mostly on the west
coast. I did work W5CBF in Louisiana, the furthest east I worked on this
mostly western pass.

During this SO-50 pass, it was mentioned that AO-73 was coming by in a few
minutes (at 9pm, 0400 UTC). I had not planned to work that pass, but knew I
could set up quickly for it. Using my FT-817ND/SDRplay combination again, I
worked two stations on AO-73 to wrap up my stay at the DM34/DM35 grid line.

I knew there was an ISS pass coming by around 10pm (0500 UTC), and I had
mentioned this on Twitter earlier in the day. I had one taker for a QSO
attempt on that pass, and hoped to make it from the DM34/DM35 line over to
grid DM45 near Flagstaff in time for this pass. I made the 50-mile drive in
about 40 minutes to the first I-40 freeway exit inside DM45, only leaving
me a couple of minutes to set up for the ISS pass. As I have been doing
lately, I use only my TH-D72A HT and Elk antenna to work these passes using
APRS messages. I logged two QSOs, with KK6QMS in California and NP4JV in
southern Arizona, to wrap up my operating for Saturday evening. I then
drove the last 20 miles to Flagstaff, checked into a motel, and called it a
night.

Sunday (12 June) morning came, and my plans for this day were simple - work
some passes from a couple of the national monuments around Flagstaff, then
head home. All of these monuments were in grid DM45, and I hoped I might be
able to make one or two official NPOTA activations up in this area. I had
planned to start my day at the Sunset Crater Volcano National Monument
north of Flagstaff. I went there, and found that this was a tough spot for
satellite operating. The volcano rises above the forest surrounding it, and
the only clearing that I could use to work satellites had no parking area.
I'd have to hike about a mile to work from that clearing. I decided to move
down the road to the Wupatki National Monument next door, and try from
there.

Wupatki National Monument is away from the trees, on the edge of a large
plateau covering much of this part of Arizona. Other than some hills to the
west, this was a great location to operate. The only drawback was that I
had no access to APRS or the mobile phone network in most of this national
monument, without driving back toward Flagstaff or the US-89 highway along
the western edge of this national monument, almost 20 miles west of where I
operated from. The lack of APRS or mobile phone coverage was not going to
stop me.

The first of the 5 passes I worked was a very low western SO-50 pass just
before 7am (1400 UTC). I hoped someone would be on, to get my day started
with something for the log at Wupatki. Christy KB6LTY was up early like me,
and was my only contact on this pass. One QSO is better than none, and I
felt like this was going to be a good morning. I had over an hour and a
half until a pair of eastern passes, on AO-73 and AO-85. I worked only
WN9Q on the AO-73 pass just before 9am (1600 UTC), followed by 7 other
stations on the AO-85 pass a few minutes later. These QSOs brought me to 9
different stations worked from this national monument, and the next new
call sign in my log would make this an official NPOTA activation.

Between these two passes and the next pair of AO-73/AO-85 passes, I went to
the visitor center for the Wupatki monument to get my passport stamps for
this national monument. I did some sightseeing before returning to where I
worked the early passes, to try the AO-73 and AO-85 passes between 10am and
11am (1700-1800 UTC). The western AO-73 pass was quiet, with no QSOs made.
The AO-85 pass passed almost directly over my head, and this was better.
Seven QSOs, five of which were new calls for my log at Wupatki, were made.
This completed my NPOTA activation, and I drove back to Flagstaff and the
third of the three national monuments around this area, Walnut Canyon
National Monument.

Walnut Canyon National Monument is only a few miles east of Flagstaff along
I-40 and old US-66, still in grid DM45 like the other two national
monuments. The national monument is in a forest, and a national forest
surrounds the monument. For the afternoon, I did not have any other FM
satellite passes available. I had passes on FO-29, AO-7, and the ISS.
After visiting the visitor center to get more passport stamps to show I
visited Walnut Canyon, I parked along the roadway between the visitor
center and I-40, which was within the national monument's boundaries, for
the 5 passes I attempted.

FO-29 was first, around 12.30pm (1930 UTC). There was a lot of activity on
there, and I was able to work 5 different stations. This was a good start
to the afternoon. The ISS pass that followed about 20 minutes after the
FO-29 pass wasn't so good. I heard the station's packet digipeater well,
but made no QSOs.

Around the 2-3pm hour (2100-2200 UTC), I had FO-29 and AO-7 passes. The
FO-29 pass was quieter, and I worked KO6TZ and KI6WJ to add to my log. The
AO-7 pass after that was completely quiet. No QSOs logged. Seeing that I
was now at 7 QSOs for my stop at Walnut Canyon, and hoping to get to the
magic number of 10 different stations worked for an official NPOTA
activation, I stuck around for one last AO-7 pass near 4.30pm (2330 UTC).
This was a complete bust. Although I heard a couple of stations on, AO-7
appeared to make a switch from mode B to mode A. Since the monument
was closing at 5pm (0000 UTC), and I still had a drive of over 2 hours to
get back home, I wrapped up my radio activities for the day and weekend.
Although I was disappointed in not making my stop at Walnut Canyon an
NPOTA activation, I was able to put that monument into a few logs.

Between the Prescott Hamfest and the post-hamfest road trip, I covered over
500 miles in about a day and a half. This was fun, and I hope to be able to
make a return trip to Walnut Canyon to add that to my list of activations
for the NPOTA activity in 2016.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From wmy at isac.gov.in  Wed Jun 22 05:44:47 2016
From: wmy at isac.gov.in (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS])
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:14:47 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Heard Beacon from Swayam Satellite
In-Reply-To: <20160621025227.BF85B864D@lansing182.amsat.org>
References: <CAD1MXRqj+44OHXY4jLz04eqqmLpbOronS7eqFNJtXJLkSA12dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD1MXRq1pufc3TLY4k_q56aPzGVBN6RcpC8x5bwffkdoVovyfA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD1MXRpJNcb_RHOk8CG1bVQHGrD9eBzxMrdZmPgmfNR5qpqVeA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20160621025227.BF85B864D@lansing182.amsat.org>
Message-ID: <20160622054029.8F1058307@lansing182.amsat.org>

  Congratulations to Team Swayam and as well to other satellite teams of
PSLV C34 Mission !!!

Heard? reasonably strong CW Beacon signals 0n 437.025 Mhz from just
launched 'Swayam Satellite' during its visibility over Bangalore. But,
couldn't decode.

Date:?????????????? 22.06.2016
Time:?????????????? 05:35:30 UT[TCA]
Orbit:?????????????? 02
Max Ele:????????? 6.6 deg
Azm:??????????????? 286 deg
Range:??????????? 1982 Km
Antenna:???????? Diamond X 510- 3 X 5/8 vertical colinear

73 de
?
  Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]
Secretary & Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(Office)91-80-25082598/25082054/25082192
Mobile:? 91-9880 341 456
E-mail ID: wmy at isac.gov.in
? ? ? ? ? ?vu2wmy_mani at yahoo.com
? ? ? ? ? ?isrohams at yahoo.com
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From rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com  Wed Jun 22 05:26:22 2016
From: rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com (Rupesh Lad)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:56:22 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Swayam Satellite Launching on 22 June 2016 by ISRO
In-Reply-To: <CAD1MXRpJNcb_RHOk8CG1bVQHGrD9eBzxMrdZmPgmfNR5qpqVeA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD1MXRqj+44OHXY4jLz04eqqmLpbOronS7eqFNJtXJLkSA12dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD1MXRq1pufc3TLY4k_q56aPzGVBN6RcpC8x5bwffkdoVovyfA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD1MXRpJNcb_RHOk8CG1bVQHGrD9eBzxMrdZmPgmfNR5qpqVeA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD1MXRramTv2y6cfYEC2X87ihjf+Rze3nTYh+6B=Tu2TFMkzSw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

CSAT Swayam Satellite is successfully placed in orbit by ISRO PSLV C34.

The post launch TLEs for tracking satellite are updated on our website
www.coep.org.in/csat

Swayam Post Launch TLEs

1 99999U 16005A   16174.17619444  .00001959  00000-0  92201-4 0  1233
2 99999  97.5045 233.3359 0010838 253.1764 319.5872 15.19417963    15

We are eagerly waiting for your reception report of CW Morse Beacon at
437.025 MHz. You can also get the decoded Beacon Data by entering beacon in
Swayam Beacon Decoder available on our website.

Cheers!

Thanks
73,
VU2LRD / VU2COE
Rupesh Lad,
COEP CSAT Team


On 19-Jun-2016 11:31 pm, "Rupesh Lad" <rupeshdlad2738.rl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Greetings from India!
>
> DE VU2LRD, Rupesh Lad from College of Engineering Pune.
>
> We are extremely glad to inform you that COEP's first  satellite SWAYAM
> developed by the students of the COEP Satellite Team shall be launched by
> ISRO on 22 June, from Satish Dhawan Space Centre (SHAR), Sriharikota at 9am.
>
> Swayam has a mass of 990 grams and dimensions of 10cm x 10cm x 11.35cm. It
> will be launched by Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle PSLV-C34. After being
> launched into its orbit, Swayam shall stabilize itself passively i.e.
> without consumption of electric power. This concept of stabilization is the
> first of its kind in India.  It also provides a messaging service for the
> Ground Stations in the HAM band. A functional Ground station is also
> developed by team to communicate with Swayam and have sucvessfully received
> data from 40+ satellites.
>
> Swayam will downlink analog CW Morse beacon at frequency of 437.025 MHz
> with a gap of 90 secs between successive beacons. I request you all to
> receive the beacon data and report your reception details on our website -
>
> www.coep.org.in/csat
>
> Swayam TLEs will be uploaded post launch on our website mentioned above.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Thanks
> 73,
> VU2LRD / VU2COE
> Rupesh Lad,
> COEP CSAT Team
>

From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 22 14:23:10 2016
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:23:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SWAYAM received in Brazil
References: <1709141213.2416760.1466605390664.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1709141213.2416760.1466605390664.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Strong CW signal :
<http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/swayam.htm>
73 de Roland PY4ZBZ

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Wed Jun 22 16:13:16 2016
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:13:16 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telefunken CF300 needed
Message-ID: <576AB91C.2050405@coloradosatellite.com>

I'd appreciate any leads to a source of Telefunken CF300 dual gate 
MosFETs used in the old Landwehr UHF preamps.  We are trying to 
resurrect one here.

Jim

jim at coloradosatellite.com

From howied231 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 22 18:35:31 2016
From: howied231 at hotmail.com (Howie DeFelice)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:35:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telefunken CF300 needed
In-Reply-To: <576AB91C.2050405@coloradosatellite.com>
References: <576AB91C.2050405@coloradosatellite.com>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W529F61EC65798EE5EB2C3BE72C0@phx.gbl>

Hi Jim,

I found this info that might help. The MRF966 is available from RF Parts for about $6.00.
- Howie AB2S

Title: RE: Preamp on RF Concepts brick amp - GaAsFet?

					Post by: K4RTS on May 11, 2010, 03:51:53 PM
					
					From the CF300 Data Sheet from Telefunken
(From a pdf of the datasheet..cannot find a way
to attach it here .)

N-Channel-GaAs-MESFET-Tetrode Depletion Mode

10 Volt
80 mA
1.1 dB N.F. @ 800 mHz
200 mw power dissipation

Its a GaAsFET....just a dual gate GaAsFET that
was the thing 25 years ago
May be replaced with a MRF966....I have tried both
and see no noticeable difference in performance to
my untrained ear.

73
Richard / K4RTS
					

> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; W6OAL at aol.com
> From: jim at coloradosatellite.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:13:16 -0600
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Telefunken CF300 needed
> 
> I'd appreciate any leads to a source of Telefunken CF300 dual gate 
> MosFETs used in the old Landwehr UHF preamps.  We are trying to 
> resurrect one here.
> 
> Jim
> 
> jim at coloradosatellite.com
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Wed Jun 22 19:05:27 2016
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 13:05:27 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Telefunken CF300 needed
In-Reply-To: <BLU169-W529F61EC65798EE5EB2C3BE72C0@phx.gbl>
References: <576AB91C.2050405@coloradosatellite.com>
	<BLU169-W529F61EC65798EE5EB2C3BE72C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <576AE177.7020302@coloradosatellite.com>

Thanks to those who replied to this need. We have ordered one from 
littlediode in the UK.
I'll post a note when we get it working or not. Seems like there are 
probably others out there that might be resurrected.  I ran a pair of 
these for many years on a bunch of sats and they worked pretty well.
Jim

From godetj at wanadoo.fr  Wed Jun 22 21:06:27 2016
From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:06:27 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Swayam
Message-ID: <576AFDD3.6010603@wanadoo.fr>

   CW beacon received around 2055 UTC orbit nr 12. More on next pass 
tomorrow morning.

   73 !

   J-P F5YG

From dirgantara.rahadian at gmail.com  Thu Jun 23 02:10:31 2016
From: dirgantara.rahadian at gmail.com (Dirigantara R)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:10:31 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Swayam
In-Reply-To: <576AFDD3.6010603@wanadoo.fr>
References: <576AFDD3.6010603@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <FDF07663-A0FC-4307-AABB-63222E053CA5@gmail.com>

Strong in jakarta , Indonesia

https://youtu.be/clg-8WAlJhM

73 de YE0EEE

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Jun 2016, at 04.06, Jean-Pierre Godet <godetj at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 
>  CW beacon received around 2055 UTC orbit nr 12. More on next pass tomorrow morning.
> 
>  73 !
> 
>  J-P F5YG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Thu Jun 23 03:24:02 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:24:02 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] A frugal approach to portable space APRS ops
Message-ID: <576b5653.ca28620a.89c6c.ffffa0cf@mx.google.com>

Good evening,

For the past couple of weeks, I?ve been "experimenting? by using an Icom IC-2820h, an Elk Antenna, a Mobilinkd Bluetooth TNC and APRSDroid on my phone, to work the International Space Station digipeater (and PSat). I am happy to report that it works! I have made several contacts, some that have provided me with new grid squares.

Besides the radio, the rest of the setup can be a budget friendly alternative to $500+ APRS-ready equipment. The Mobillinkd TNC, plus cables, can be obtained for less than $100 dollars. I prefer the Icom transceiver due to local RF sources that overwhelm the front end of cheap Chinese handheld radios. I am positive that better handheld devices will work just fine. The TNC is connected to the radio via the audio or data port and connects to the Android device via Bluetooth. The 2820h uses a DIN6 connector cable, compatible with other radios such as the Yaesu FT-817 and 857.

APRSDroid acts as the main interface and has features that you will find on an APRS radio. Just enter the correct path and you will be able to work terrestrial and space APRS. 

The TNC can also be connected to your Bluetooth capable computer (dongles will work). I tried it with UISS and AGWPE and it worked perfectly.

Today, I was able to work a simultaneous ISS and PSAT pass and heard packets from both spacecrafts.  I saw messages from stations from Canada to Mexico and worked WD9EWK in Phoenix, 259 km north of my QTH. I also heard double-hop packets from K5UBQ in Texas and XE2OCM in Monterrey, Mexico.

73!
Fernando, NP4JV

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 23 04:00:52 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:00:52 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] A frugal approach to portable space APRS ops
In-Reply-To: <576b5653.ca28620a.89c6c.ffffa0cf@mx.google.com>
References: <576b5653.ca28620a.89c6c.ffffa0cf@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ9e-pREakDYcuCnSM9f7Pwe+g0oF5jcvnhqtEr5_U2ypQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Fernando Ramirez
<framirezferrer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Besides the radio, the rest of the setup can be a budget friendly alternative to $500+ APRS-ready equipment. The Mobillinkd TNC, plus cables, can be obtained for less than $100 dollars. I prefer the Icom transceiver due to local RF sources that overwhelm the front end of cheap Chinese handheld radios. I am positive that better handheld devices will work just fine. The TNC is connected to the radio via the audio or data port and connects to the Android device via Bluetooth. The 2820h uses a DIN6 connector cable, compatible with other radios such as the Yaesu FT-817 and 857.


I have an iPhone (and an iPad) and saw what Mobillinkd said on their
page about iOS, but a quick run through Amazon shows MANY Android
tablets, with Bluetooth, for well under $100.  Even under $50.


You mentioned AGWPE and UISS - those don't run on Android, do they?




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Jun 23 04:05:54 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:05:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] TOMSK Bandit ISS Repeater
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOEzeqkX6+4NNKEEhiJH0FQo5Ca-gFeRGbX8ZUOvvsu8Q@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnB7h_k7_M

If you liked this video please subscribe to me:

https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1

This was recorded on May 10th and 11th of 2016 in Raleigh, North Carolina.

For more info on TOMSK TP-120 see this webpage:

https://amsat-uk.org/2016/04/30/tomsk-tpu-120-cubesat/

For recordings and transcriptions of many (all?) of the TP-120
messages see this webpage:

http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=71801

73,

John Brier KG4AKV

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jun 23 04:19:25 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 04:19:25 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb]  A frugal approach to portable space APRS ops
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Peter,

There are some inexpensive 7- to 11-inch tablets running Windows.
I use some for my SDR receivers as part of my portable satellite
stations. There are more software options for Windows than iOS or Android.
I have HP and WinBook tablets with Windows 10, which started with
Windows 8.1, that work with a FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and SDRplay SDR
receivers. I normally use HDSDR with the SDR receivers , but there are
other programs you can run. I haven't done packet on the tablets, but
that's on the perpetual to-do list.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitrer: @WD9EWK


On Wednesday, June 22, 2016, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','plaws0 at gmail.com');>> wrote:

>
>
> I have an iPhone (and an iPad) and saw what Mobillinkd said on their
> page about iOS, but a quick run through Amazon shows MANY Android
> tablets, with Bluetooth, for well under $100.  Even under $50.
>
>
> You mentioned AGWPE and UISS - those don't run on Android, do they?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>
>

From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Thu Jun 23 04:41:09 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:41:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] A frugal approach to portable space APRS ops
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ9e-pREakDYcuCnSM9f7Pwe+g0oF5jcvnhqtEr5_U2ypQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Peter!

A cheap Android tablet should work fine. I use my old LG G2 smartphone or a Nexus 7 (2013) for APRSDroid. 

UISS an AWGPE are PC only software. I haven?t tried but with a Windows tablet you might be able to install them and use it with the TNC. The Mobilinkd talks to AWGPE and then AWG connects to UISS. There is always the sound modem approach when using a Windows device. Again, pure speculation since I have not tried that. 


 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Peter Laws

From AJ9N at aol.com  Thu Jun 23 07:08:07 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 03:08:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-23 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <ef90a.519f69c4.449ce4d7@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-23  07:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD 
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 
The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Contact is a go for Thu 2016-06-30 07:55 UTC  

Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium, Bruchsal, Germany, direct via  DN1JKG
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled  astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ 
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-07-01  08:31:23 UTC 74  deg

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-23 07:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1064. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1029. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-14 04:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 23 10:55:29 2016
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:55:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] A frugal approach to portable space APRS ops
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ9e-pREakDYcuCnSM9f7Pwe+g0oF5jcvnhqtEr5_U2ypQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CANVAiQ9e-pREakDYcuCnSM9f7Pwe+g0oF5jcvnhqtEr5_U2ypQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <745862549.173003.1466679329610.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I use the mobilinkd tnc, and aprsdroid, on a motorola phone purchased (and not activated) for $10 (including shipping).? Works great and I've used it with an elk (and in my case the UV-5R) to work ISS passes. Combined with a homebrew antenna, I assert it's the cheapest possible APRS sat setup :)
Rob KA2CZU
 

    On Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:02 AM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Fernando Ramirez
<framirezferrer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Besides the radio, the rest of the setup can be a budget friendly alternative to $500+ APRS-ready equipment. The Mobillinkd TNC, plus cables, can be obtained for less than $100 dollars. I prefer the Icom transceiver due to local RF sources that overwhelm the front end of cheap Chinese handheld radios. I am positive that better handheld devices will work just fine. The TNC is connected to the radio via the audio or data port and connects to the Android device via Bluetooth. The 2820h uses a DIN6 connector cable, compatible with other radios such as the Yaesu FT-817 and 857.


I have an iPhone (and an iPad) and saw what Mobillinkd said on their
page about iOS, but a quick run through Amazon shows MANY Android
tablets, with Bluetooth, for well under $100.? Even under $50.


You mentioned AGWPE and UISS - those don't run on Android, do they?




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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From godetj at wanadoo.fr  Thu Jun 23 14:17:51 2016
From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:17:51 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SWAYAM beacon, text and sound record
Message-ID: <576BEF8F.4070107@wanadoo.fr>

   Hi my friends,

   The SWAYAM 437.025 CW beacon was received here in western Europe this 
morning, begining after 0950 UTC, orbit number 20: five characters 
strings received, each string, lasting maybe ten seconds, including 
twelve Morse characters, the strings being spaced from each other by 
about one minute and a half:
SWAYAMSNBNNN
SWAYAMSNVNNN
SWAYAMSNMNNN
SWAYAMSNUNNN
SWAYAMSNSNNN (only the ninth lettre changes, the one before the three 
last NNN)

   Here is a short sample of the record:
http://f5yg.pagesperso-orange.fr/incoming/SWAYAM_orb20_23jun2016.mp3
   I removed the large intervals between each CW beacon strings to 
shorten the file. I apologize for the lack of Dopper shift correction as 
the frequency and tle need now to be adjusted more precisely.  :-)

   Best 73 !

   Jean-Pierre F5YG

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Jun 23 14:19:04 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:19:04 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS and NO-84 at the same time last night...
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfzG7R1LfpPJh8so2re1c28Q5pbgXs-a2Hgce4yOfSavg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

Last night around 0150 UTC (6.50pm PDT), we had a rare event - both the ISS
and NO-84 were passing by at basically the same time, and in the same
general direction. Both came out of the northwest, sweeping down the west
coast and ending up in the south-southeast. NO-84 was higher than the ISS,
and a few of us tried to make some double-hops through both.

Fernando NP4JV and I started with a path RS0ISS,APRSAT to force our packets
first through the ISS digipeater, and then through NO-84. I thought that it
might work better having ISS retransmit the packets first, then go silent
as NO-84 did its retransmissions. This did not work as well as I had hoped.
Fernando did not see any of his packets make the double-hop. I saw one of
my position packets make the double-hop near the end of the pass, but that
wasn't picked up by any of the Internet gateways listening on 145.825 MHz.
On my TH-D72A HT, I first saw "My Position via RS0ISS", followed a moment
later by "My Position via ARISS". It is unfortunate that the TH-D72A won't
store my own position in the list of stations heard, as many of the Yaesu
APRS-ready radios do, as this means I don't have any evidence to show that
packet making the double-hop. In any event, it was fun to give that a try.
There may have been one or two other stations that had packets make the
double-hop, along with what I saw for my position packet.

Beyond the double-hop experiment, this was another opportunity to practice
making QSOs using APRS messaging through the space-based digipeaters. I was
able to make quick QSOs with NP4JV (Fernando is in southern Arizona, near
the USA/Mexico border) and KG6BFD in California. I used only my TH-D72A HT
and Elk log periodic antenna as my station, and Fernando wrote about his
APRS station here on the AMSAT-BB last night. This is one way to get that
100-point ARRL Field Day bonus for making a satellite contact, something I
did during last year's Field Day.

I will be out this evening for the west-coast ISS and NO-84 passes around
0055-0125 UTC (5.55-6.25pm PDT). This time, the two will not pass over at
the same time, so there will be a chance to make QSOs through each of them
during their passes. If anyone out west is in the footprint on these passes
and wants to try to make a QSO with me, please look for WD9EWK-9 - and be
ready with APRS messages for the QSO. My TH-D72A won't show freeform text
entered into a terminal program, but will display (and store) APRS messages
addressed to my call. From a terminal program, you could send me APRS
messages using this format:

:WD9EWK-9 :Message follows the second colon

A colon goes before my call sign, a space and a colon follows the call, and
then the text of the short message. My replies to you would appear in this
format, with the other station's call in place of WD9EWK-9.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From Saguaroastro at cox.net  Thu Jun 23 23:19:33 2016
From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:19:33 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS and NO-84 at the same time last night...
Message-ID: <krtr36awrag90qytipiai5d5.1466723973222@email.android.com>

I'm sorry I missed it yesterday, but I was a bit under the weather.

I'll try to be out for tonight's passes. I'd like to get NO-84 in the log.

73

Rick Tejera K7TEJ
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.SaguaroAstro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org

On June 23, 2016, at 07:19, "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:

Hi!

Last night around 0150 UTC (6.50pm PDT), we had a rare event - both the ISS
and NO-84 were passing by at basically the same time, and in the same
general direction. Both came out of the northwest, sweeping down the west
coast and ending up in the south-southeast. NO-84 was higher than the ISS,
and a few of us tried to make some double-hops through both.

Fernando NP4JV and I started with a path RS0ISS,APRSAT to force our packets
first through the ISS digipeater, and then through NO-84. I thought that it
might work better having ISS retransmit the packets first, then go silent
as NO-84 did its retransmissions. This did not work as well as I had hoped.
Fernando did not see any of his packets make the double-hop. I saw one of
my position packets make the double-hop near the end of the pass, but that
wasn't picked up by any of the Internet gateways listening on 145.825 MHz.
On my TH-D72A HT, I first saw "My Position via RS0ISS", followed a moment
later by "My Position via ARISS". It is unfortunate that the TH-D72A won't
store my own position in the list of stations heard, as many of the Yaesu
APRS-ready radios do, as this means I don't have any evidence to show that
packet making the double-hop. In any event, it was fun to give that a try.
There may have been one or two other stations that had packets make the
double-hop, along with what I saw for my position packet.

Beyond the double-hop experiment, this was another opportunity to practice
making QSOs using APRS messaging through the space-based digipeaters. I was
able to make quick QSOs with NP4JV (Fernando is in southern Arizona, near
the USA/Mexico border) and KG6BFD in California. I used only my TH-D72A HT
and Elk log periodic antenna as my station, and Fernando wrote about his
APRS station here on the AMSAT-BB last night. This is one way to get that
100-point ARRL Field Day bonus for making a satellite contact, something I
did during last year's Field Day.

I will be out this evening for the west-coast ISS and NO-84 passes around
0055-0125 UTC (5.55-6.25pm PDT). This time, the two will not pass over at
the same time, so there will be a chance to make QSOs through each of them
during their passes. If anyone out west is in the footprint on these passes
and wants to try to make a QSO with me, please look for WD9EWK-9 - and be
ready with APRS messages for the QSO. My TH-D72A won't show freeform text
entered into a terminal program, but will display (and store) APRS messages
addressed to my call. From a terminal program, you could send me APRS
messages using this format:

:WD9EWK-9 :Message follows the second colon

A colon goes before my call sign, a space and a colon follows the call, and
then the text of the short message. My replies to you would appear in this
format, with the other station's call in place of WD9EWK-9.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK
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From popopaige at att.net  Thu Jun 23 23:43:15 2016
From: popopaige at att.net (popopaige at att.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:43:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Austin Summerfest
References: <620225058.495679.1466725395214.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <620225058.495679.1466725395214.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; }  anyone heading to austin for their summerfest august 5-6? i was thinking of heading there.?
73...bruce

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Jun 24 00:10:01 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 20:10:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
Message-ID: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT,

If you plan on going to a special place between Oregon to South Carolina
along the line of Solar Eclipse TOTALITY, better make your reservations
now. (21 Aug 2017).

I just tried a few cabins and resorts in west kentucky and they were all
booked.  So I gave up and called up my sister in North Georgia and said
"Family reunion at your place next August 21, 2017!

Not sure what AMSAT interest there is, but any satelliite with a camera on
it should try to get ready to take a shot of the eclipse on the ground.

A once in a lifetime opportunity.

On APRS we are probably going to encourage people to post ECLIPSE objects
when they are at totality so everyone can see it move across the country in
real time on their APRS radios.

DX'ers will probably be out in force too..

Bob, WB4APR

From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp  Fri Jun 24 00:16:59 2016
From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS))
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:16:59 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160624091447.4BB4.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 20:10:01 -0400, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> AMSAT,
> 
> If you plan on going to a special place between Oregon to South Carolina
> along the line of Solar Eclipse TOTALITY, better make your reservations
> now. (21 Aug 2017).

Would you happen to have a link to the ground track for this eclipse? I
ask because I might be in Maryland on that date (visiting family during
summer vacation, like I will be this year as well). Probably not in the
totality area, but even a partial is better than nothing...

-- 
J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
Twitter: @Minus2_C


From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Fri Jun 24 00:32:44 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:32:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB50CBD5-AE2D-42EB-BD3E-8186428468D2@comcast.net>

The projected track map is on a Wikipedia site.  Just Google it and go to the Wikipedia site.  There will be totality at my QTH. It'll be pretty cool.  Assuming clear sky, I put up a live cam.
73
Dave
N4CVX


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 23, 2016, at 19:10, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> 
> AMSAT,
> 
> If you plan on going to a special place between Oregon to South Carolina
> along the line of Solar Eclipse TOTALITY, better make your reservations
> now. (21 Aug 2017).
> 
> I just tried a few cabins and resorts in west kentucky and they were all
> booked.  So I gave up and called up my sister in North Georgia and said
> "Family reunion at your place next August 21, 2017!
> 
> Not sure what AMSAT interest there is, but any satelliite with a camera on
> it should try to get ready to take a shot of the eclipse on the ground.
> 
> A once in a lifetime opportunity.
> 
> On APRS we are probably going to encourage people to post ECLIPSE objects
> when they are at totality so everyone can see it move across the country in
> real time on their APRS radios.
> 
> DX'ers will probably be out in force too..
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From wageners at gmail.com  Fri Jun 24 00:36:24 2016
From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:36:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
In-Reply-To: <DB50CBD5-AE2D-42EB-BD3E-8186428468D2@comcast.net>
References: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<DB50CBD5-AE2D-42EB-BD3E-8186428468D2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAKu8kHAe1ZNFjMLxMTVVKijc6e5on48amHjBgQajWw4Uwy+gPw@mail.gmail.com>

The forecast for the day is cloudy with occasional rain showers....LOL

Stefan

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Dave Mann <cwo4mann at comcast.net> wrote:

> The projected track map is on a Wikipedia site.  Just Google it and go to
> the Wikipedia site.  There will be totality at my QTH. It'll be pretty
> cool.  Assuming clear sky, I put up a live cam.
> 73
> Dave
> N4CVX
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jun 23, 2016, at 19:10, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> >
> > AMSAT,
> >
> > If you plan on going to a special place between Oregon to South Carolina
> > along the line of Solar Eclipse TOTALITY, better make your reservations
> > now. (21 Aug 2017).
> >
> > I just tried a few cabins and resorts in west kentucky and they were all
> > booked.  So I gave up and called up my sister in North Georgia and said
> > "Family reunion at your place next August 21, 2017!
> >
> > Not sure what AMSAT interest there is, but any satelliite with a camera
> on
> > it should try to get ready to take a shot of the eclipse on the ground.
> >
> > A once in a lifetime opportunity.
> >
> > On APRS we are probably going to encourage people to post ECLIPSE objects
> > when they are at totality so everyone can see it move across the country
> in
> > real time on their APRS radios.
> >
> > DX'ers will probably be out in force too..
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp  Fri Jun 24 00:47:22 2016
From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS))
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:47:22 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
In-Reply-To: <CAKu8kHAe1ZNFjMLxMTVVKijc6e5on48amHjBgQajWw4Uwy+gPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DB50CBD5-AE2D-42EB-BD3E-8186428468D2@comcast.net>
	<CAKu8kHAe1ZNFjMLxMTVVKijc6e5on48amHjBgQajWw4Uwy+gPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160624094656.4BB7.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:36:24 -0500, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:

> The forecast for the day is cloudy with occasional rain showers....LOL

That's a loooooooooooooooong range forecast right there...

-- 
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
Twitter: @Minus2_C


From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Jun 24 00:48:49 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 20:48:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
In-Reply-To: <20160624094656.4BB7.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>
References: <DB50CBD5-AE2D-42EB-BD3E-8186428468D2@comcast.net>
	<CAKu8kHAe1ZNFjMLxMTVVKijc6e5on48amHjBgQajWw4Uwy+gPw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20160624094656.4BB7.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOozqZExTwM2HON2qVJeQ1qgA-aeXdPH-WoQdEpSDeG-Jw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm surprised AccuWeather hasn't released a 500 Day Forecast yet. They
already do 90, which is ridiculous.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 8:47 PM, J. Boyd (JR2TTS)
<the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:36:24 -0500, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The forecast for the day is cloudy with occasional rain showers....LOL
>
> That's a loooooooooooooooong range forecast right there...
>
> --
> J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
> the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
> http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
> Twitter: @Minus2_C
>
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From the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp  Fri Jun 24 00:48:58 2016
From: the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp (J. Boyd (JR2TTS))
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:48:58 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
In-Reply-To: <DB50CBD5-AE2D-42EB-BD3E-8186428468D2@comcast.net>
References: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<DB50CBD5-AE2D-42EB-BD3E-8186428468D2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20160624094759.4BBA.THE2BELO@msd.biglobe.ne.jp>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:32:44 -0500, Dave Mann <cwo4mann at comcast.net> wrote:

> The projected track map is on a Wikipedia site.  Just Google it and go
> to the Wikipedia site.  There will be totality at my QTH. It'll be
> pretty cool.  Assuming clear sky, I put up a live cam.

Yes, I realized after I posted that -- I could have just googled it,
couldn't I.

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/wp-content/uploads/TSE_2017_USA_track_hires.jpg


-- 
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the2belo at msd.biglobe.ne.jp
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http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
Twitter: @Minus2_C


From saguaroastro at cox.net  Fri Jun 24 02:19:08 2016
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:19:08 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
In-Reply-To: <AQAk1t00R4F0Vt701QAmFs>
References: <AQAk1t00R4F0Vt701QAmFs>
Message-ID: <018001d1cdbe$c9df7400$5d9e5c00$@net>

Bob, I presume this is similar to the message we sent during the Venus
transit?

Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org
623-572-0713
623-203-4121 (cell)
SaguaroAstro at cox.net


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 5:10 PM
To: amsat bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT

AMSAT,

On APRS we are probably going to encourage people to post ECLIPSE objects
when they are at totality so everyone can see it move across the country in
real time on their APRS radios.

DX'ers will probably be out in force too..

Bob, WB4APR
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From richard.siff at verizon.net  Fri Jun 24 02:32:15 2016
From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 22:32:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] K4AMG FD
In-Reply-To: <018001d1cdbe$c9df7400$5d9e5c00$@net>
References: <AQAk1t00R4F0Vt701QAmFs> <018001d1cdbe$c9df7400$5d9e5c00$@net>
Message-ID: <458D8C8E45324876B7B24A506516790C@BanjoPC>

FD operations from FM16 Norfolk, VA on Saturday.

Will will be the GOTA station for the Norfolk Club.

Everyone have a great and safe FD.

Rich
W4BUE

From py5lf at falautomation.com.br  Fri Jun 24 02:34:52 2016
From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:34:52 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Swayan
Message-ID: <CAAy53m5NLd372nZswq5ff2Vkxb+4M1PA0TjW3sUP5xABJdMRmA@mail.gmail.com>

Reception of Swayan beacon .

https://youtu.be/XtNDMskAFiM

73

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 24 03:54:59 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 22:54:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Eclipse Reservations 2017 AMSAT
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKicqbC_yA6VVAR1tvm3UQn1OLz6ibb31vhPGinN-ybUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ_pU_bZNzou9+xWYMj3sApjnBQGdskoqFrQCm3wZg4N+A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
>
> Not sure what AMSAT interest there is, but any satelliite with a camera on
> it should try to get ready to take a shot of the eclipse on the ground.
>
> A once in a lifetime opportunity.


First - thanks for the warning.  We plan to trek up to ... well, I
guess I won't disclose exactly where now ...  but if all else fails,
I've got a cousin in the (now nameless) town.


More importantly, regarding the path of totality.  Ward, N0AX, gave an
interesting presentation at the MicroHAMs conference last spring.  In
it, he mentioned a propagation project involving RF through/under/over
the path and that we'd hear more about it soon.  Anyone heard anything
about that?


The presentation was not about that propagation project but is
interesting just the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTndhyh79U






-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From rjlawn at gmail.com  Fri Jun 24 04:13:00 2016
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 00:13:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ukube QSO
Message-ID: <CADQmrTFP=2C9F=U2UC3inVb+L7k2e5KZmQ4680dYFvsTET55gg@mail.gmail.com>

Just had my first excellent qso with KE8AKW, Nick, on the new bird and I
was very pleased and surprised with the quality of the signal. I think we
were the only ones on t the end of the day Thursday and were interrupted
only once or twice by what seems to be strong wide and telemetry. I can
never remember a time when satellite operation has been better (aside from
the AO40 days) with so many active birds!
Rick, W2JAZ/3


-- 
Sent from Gmail Mobile

From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun 24 10:18:05 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:18:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Phase-4A Geo Transponder Video and PDF Leaflet
References: <1890363640.1307426.1466763485767.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1890363640.1307426.1466763485767.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Phase-4A Geostationary Amateur Radio Transponder Video and new transponder leaflet available at?https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/24/phase-4a-transponder-video/

India launches ham radio satellites 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/22/india-launches-ham-radio-satellites/

Amateur Satellites at Skills Night 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/21/amateur-satellites-skills-night/

AMSAT-UK Colloquium ? Final Call for Speakers 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/21/colloquium-final-call-for-speakers/

K1D to Operate Satellites on Field Day 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/19/k1d-to-operate-satellites-on-field-day/

This year's AMSAT-UK Colloquium takes place July 29-31 at the Holiday Inn, Guildford and is open to all https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/


73 Trevor M5AKA
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From k9jkm at comcast.net  Fri Jun 24 14:44:27 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:44:27 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sathyabamasat Keps Update
Message-ID: <001401d1ce26$e88bcc10$b9a36430$@net>

Forwarding a message received at the AMSAT Office. Keps sent by the
Sathyabamasat team leader:

I am Dr.K.vasanth, team leader for sathyabamasat.
please find the TLE of sathyabamasat that was launched in PSLV c34 on 22
june 2016 by ISRO

SATHYABAMASAT
1 99995U 16040Z   16175. 20805119  -.00000069  00000-0  00000+0 0  9993
2 99995  97.5054 234.3601 0013199 239.3342 211.7362 15.18710336    154

Kindly track our satellite and send me the tracked results if possible.
E-mail vasanthecek at gmail.com

Thank you for the help

regards

Dr.k.vasanth


--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org




From wa4hfn at comcast.net  Fri Jun 24 15:41:25 2016
From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (wa4hfn at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:41:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] GOT GRIDS AWARD
In-Reply-To: <643615772.23428043.1466782320556.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1536295862.23434598.1466782885436.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>

 Congratulations  to

    W6FW
Frank Westphal   for the Got Grids Award #16

For more info on these free awards go to   

 www.starcommgroup.org

These awards are free we only ask that you make a donation to Amsat if you can.

Thank you
WA4HFN EM55ab
Damon Runion
Memphis,TN

From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Fri Jun 24 16:05:40 2016
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:05:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sathyabamasat Keps Update
In-Reply-To: <001401d1ce26$e88bcc10$b9a36430$@net>
References: <001401d1ce26$e88bcc10$b9a36430$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FdpwG1OXhsq+8VW1Tnj3AAobbcb7P8QEJ4-j2f1zdom-w@mail.gmail.com>

I Googled "SATHYABAMASAT" and gave up on trying to find frequency and mode
info after clicking  all the links on the first page of search results with
no luck. Seems like all these schools want us to keep an ear out for their
stuff but don't do a very good job with giving useful info. It was a quick
look so maybe I did miss it, but nothing jumped out at me.

Dave-KB1PVH

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:44 AM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm at comcast.net> wrote:

> Forwarding a message received at the AMSAT Office. Keps sent by the
> Sathyabamasat team leader:
>
> I am Dr.K.vasanth, team leader for sathyabamasat.
> please find the TLE of sathyabamasat that was launched in PSLV c34 on 22
> june 2016 by ISRO
>
> SATHYABAMASAT
> 1 99995U 16040Z   16175. 20805119  -.00000069  00000-0  00000+0 0  9993
> 2 99995  97.5054 234.3601 0013199 239.3342 211.7362 15.18710336    154
>
> Kindly track our satellite and send me the tracked results if possible.
> E-mail vasanthecek at gmail.com
>
> Thank you for the help
>
> regards
>
> Dr.k.vasanth
>
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Fri Jun 24 16:21:12 2016
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:21:12 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sathyabamasat Keps Update
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FdpwG1OXhsq+8VW1Tnj3AAobbcb7P8QEJ4-j2f1zdom-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401d1ce26$e88bcc10$b9a36430$@net>
	<CAEMY9FdpwG1OXhsq+8VW1Tnj3AAobbcb7P8QEJ4-j2f1zdom-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5b46c15d00e3b63fde4bc511e8cc7d82@vgnet.nl>

Hello Dave,

Here some information:

http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/satellite/frequencies/
http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=29535
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=189

73 Jan PE0SAT


On 24-06-2016 18:05, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> I Googled "SATHYABAMASAT" and gave up on trying to find frequency and 
> mode
> info after clicking  all the links on the first page of search results 
> with
> no luck. Seems like all these schools want us to keep an ear out for 
> their
> stuff but don't do a very good job with giving useful info. It was a 
> quick
> look so maybe I did miss it, but nothing jumped out at me.
> 
> Dave-KB1PVH
> 
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:44 AM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm at comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Forwarding a message received at the AMSAT Office. Keps sent by the
>> Sathyabamasat team leader:
>> 
>> I am Dr.K.vasanth, team leader for sathyabamasat.
>> please find the TLE of sathyabamasat that was launched in PSLV c34 on 
>> 22
>> june 2016 by ISRO
>> 
>> SATHYABAMASAT
>> 1 99995U 16040Z   16175. 20805119  -.00000069  00000-0  00000+0 0  
>> 9993
>> 2 99995  97.5054 234.3601 0013199 239.3342 211.7362 15.18710336    
>> 154
>> 
>> Kindly track our satellite and send me the tracked results if 
>> possible.
>> E-mail vasanthecek at gmail.com
>> 
>> Thank you for the help
>> 
>> regards
>> 
>> Dr.k.vasanth
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
>> k9jkm at amsat.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
>> of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Fri Jun 24 17:50:17 2016
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:50:17 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 weekend operations
Message-ID: <33E7D075FFC2455FAC09883CCDB98E6E@allgood.local>

Hi All,

I am pleased to confirm that FUNcube-1 is now operating in continuous amateur mode with the transponder active for the weekend. It is available for everyone to use!

73

Graham
G3VZV

From wa4hfn at comcast.net  Fri Jun 24 19:03:06 2016
From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (wa4hfn at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:03:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Got Grids Award Correctio
In-Reply-To: <1385669170.23435311.1466782965588.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
References: <1385669170.23435311.1466782965588.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <888780022.23566839.1466794986205.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>



----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "wa4hfn" <wa4hfn at comcast.net>
To: "Grid gol" <starcom-bb at star-com.net>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 10:42:45 AM
Subject: Got Grids Award

 Congratulations  to

    K6FW
Frank Westphal   for the Got Grids Award #16

For more info on these free awards go to   

 www.starcommgroup.org

These awards are free we only ask that you make a donation to Amsat if you can.

Thank you
WA4HFN EM55ab
Damon Runion
Memphis,TN

From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 24 23:30:19 2016
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:30:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SWAYAM TLE
References: <438456253.1008587.1466811019136.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <438456253.1008587.1466811019136.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Perfect Doppler correction for SWAYAM using object 2016-040J ?in tle-new.txt !
73 de Roland

From wa7eth at frontier.com  Fri Jun 24 23:38:21 2016
From: wa7eth at frontier.com (Ed Empey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:38:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Planned Field Day Activity
Message-ID: <002001d1ce71$7f42de10$7dc89a30$@frontier.com>

The Snohomish County Hams Club in Washington State plans to operate WA7LAW
on the satellites during Field Day.  Primary operations will be on the
linear satellites, FO-29, XW-2A, XW-2C, and XW-2F and maybe even LilacSat.
We may try to get through the pile-up on SO-50 but may not be successful.
Please look for us and make a contact.  Tks de Ed, WA7ETH


From nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 25 00:27:21 2016
From: nicholasmahr1 at gmail.com (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 20:27:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ukube QSO
Message-ID: <CAGu+VYvighCVv_Z1SD-Y1e8ONsg3hxx04yyad8hnG7238+do8A@mail.gmail.com>

Had a nice first QSO on Ukube-1 with Rick W2JAZ/3, It was the first time I
operated on the UKube-1 transponder! I got to say the transponder is quite
stable compared to Funcube-1's probably due to it being a 3U cubesat. Are
qso was only interuppted once by the satellites CW telemetry decensing the
uplink of transponder, but other than that it works very well! During our
QSO we were the only ones on the bird and the signal on the meter was a
solid 57. Thanks for the QSO Rick W2JAZ and see on FD and more people
should get on and work this new bird!
Nick, KE8AKW

From ka3hsw at att.net  Sat Jun 25 03:04:06 2016
From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:04:06 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Planned Field Day Activity
References: <002001d1ce71$7f42de10$7dc89a30$@frontier.com>
Message-ID: <0E11DA707CF44863916BA85257834647@parents>

Don't forget about AO-7, AO-73 and UKUBE (FunCube-2)! Sadly, the OSCAR 
satellite status page at amsat.org shows no transponder activity on LilacSat 
for quite some time...

Your best shot at the FM birds is during the night (don't forget AO-85).


George, KA3HSW
(W9CCU for Field Day)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Empey" <wa7eth at frontier.com>
To: "Amsat Bulletin Board" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 6:38 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Planned Field Day Activity


> The Snohomish County Hams Club in Washington State plans to operate WA7LAW
> on the satellites during Field Day.  Primary operations will be on the
> linear satellites, FO-29, XW-2A, XW-2C, and XW-2F and maybe even LilacSat.
> We may try to get through the pile-up on SO-50 but may not be successful.
> Please look for us and make a contact.  Tks de Ed, WA7ETH


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From n8hm at arrl.net  Sat Jun 25 03:25:12 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:25:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Planned Field Day Activity
In-Reply-To: <0E11DA707CF44863916BA85257834647@parents>
References: <002001d1ce71$7f42de10$7dc89a30$@frontier.com>
	<0E11DA707CF44863916BA85257834647@parents>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoNc96+YPNKBv78BCxdc2YsF-HMt7HrrwtN=SVsGaepoA@mail.gmail.com>

LilacSat-2 was apparently turned on this evening by the Harbin
Institute of Technology command station, but it didn't last very long.
It appears that the satellite suffers frequent resets and the FM
transponder mode doesn't stay active for very long.

Hope to work quite a few during Field Day! Remember to submit your
score to both the ARRL and AMSAT!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:04 PM, George Henry <ka3hsw at att.net> wrote:
> Don't forget about AO-7, AO-73 and UKUBE (FunCube-2)! Sadly, the OSCAR
> satellite status page at amsat.org shows no transponder activity on LilacSat
> for quite some time...
>
> Your best shot at the FM birds is during the night (don't forget AO-85).
>
>
> George, KA3HSW
> (W9CCU for Field Day)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Empey" <wa7eth at frontier.com>
> To: "Amsat Bulletin Board" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 6:38 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Planned Field Day Activity
>
>
>> The Snohomish County Hams Club in Washington State plans to operate WA7LAW
>> on the satellites during Field Day.  Primary operations will be on the
>> linear satellites, FO-29, XW-2A, XW-2C, and XW-2F and maybe even LilacSat.
>> We may try to get through the pile-up on SO-50 but may not be successful.
>> Please look for us and make a contact.  Tks de Ed, WA7ETH
>
>
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From godetj at wanadoo.fr  Sat Jun 25 06:41:54 2016
From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 06:41:54 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SWAYAM TLE
In-Reply-To: <576E20F5.9000004@wanadoo.fr>
References: <576E20F5.9000004@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <576E27B2.4000501@wanadoo.fr>

   Many thanks, Roland,

   The preliminary tle was too much ahead in time for Doppler shift
tracking.

   Best 73 !

   Jean-Pierre F5YG


On 24/06/2016 23:30, Roland Zurmely via AMSAT-BB wrote:

> Perfect Doppler correction for SWAYAM using object 2016-040J  in tle-new.txt !
> 73 de Roland
> ...




From peter.guelzow at kourou.de  Sat Jun 25 07:20:47 2016
From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (Peter Guelzow)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 09:20:47 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT P4-A, Es'hail-2 leaflet available
Message-ID: <db973404-0da7-2cf1-a6e5-579f1b728c2c@kourou.de>

Hi,

The leaflet about the first AMSAT P4-A project Es'hail-2 from Qatar can be found as .PDF under the following link:

http://www.amsat-dl.org/index.php/news-mainmenu-97/247-amsat-p4-a-es-hail-2

http://www.amsat-dl.org/images/stories/satellites/Eshail-2/P4A_Leaflet.pdf


The leaflet is jointly produced by Es'hailSat Qatar Satellite Company, QARS and AMSAT-DL


 73s Peter, DB2OS
 AMSAT-DL




From PeteW2JV at verizon.net  Sat Jun 25 10:05:32 2016
From: PeteW2JV at verizon.net (W2JV)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 06:05:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Activities
Message-ID: <AAD1D3D9C6D54F1BBF0D1936E2A06112@PeterPC>

Hello,

I will be doing my FD demonstrations/presentations  this year with the Great South Bay Amateur Club (GSBARC)  active on all the satellites, as W2GSB, we will also be covered by News12, look for for a re-broadcast on You Tube, thank you.

73?s Peter
W2JV 

From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Sat Jun 25 11:00:03 2016
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 13:00:03 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Swayam and Lapan A3 identified
Message-ID: <576E6433.4060207@xs4all.nl>

All,

Detailed doppler measurements show that Swayam is object 41607,
2016-040J, and Lapan A3 is object 41603, 2016-040E.

Although it was suggested that Lapan A3 would not transmit on
amateur frequencies, it appears to have a data downlink on
437.325 MHz.

73,
Nico PA0DLO



From py41 at att.net  Sat Jun 25 12:15:03 2016
From: py41 at att.net (Perry Yantis)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:15:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 is ON!!!!!
References: <1030033564.1183600.1466856903499.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1030033564.1183600.1466856903499.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

LilacSat-2 is on today!!!!!!?Perry WB8OTH

py41 at att.net
sent from my Apple Macbook Pro

From kb2m at arrl.net  Sat Jun 25 12:24:06 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:24:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Activities
In-Reply-To: <AAD1D3D9C6D54F1BBF0D1936E2A06112@PeterPC>
References: <AAD1D3D9C6D54F1BBF0D1936E2A06112@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <075101d1cedc$780c8b30$6825a190$@net>

I will be active as K2BR tonite, and early tomorrow morning. Everyone have a nice FD...

73 Jeff kb2m


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of W2JV
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 6:06 AM
To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org; starcom
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Activities

Hello,

I will be doing my FD demonstrations/presentations  this year with the Great South Bay Amateur Club (GSBARC)  active on all the satellites, as W2GSB, we will also be covered by News12, look for for a re-broadcast on You Tube, thank you.

73?s Peter
W2JV
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From kk5do at arrl.net  Sat Jun 25 13:28:20 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:28:20 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Operational Satellites and Frequencies
Message-ID: <458b4952-2b8e-5038-ef10-b7080d9023bb@arrl.net>

I pulled these from the AMSAT.ORG webpage. I dropped the list onto my 
iPhone in Notes to have it readily available for Field Day. These are 
the FM and Linear birds that should be active.

73...bruce

FM Satellite Frequency Summary

AMSAT Fox-1 Satellites
     Uplink FM
(67 Hz CTCSS)     Downlink FM     Comments

AO-85 (Fox-1A)     435.170 MHz     145.980 MHz     Operational
Fox-1B     435.250 MHz     145.960 MHz     Launch 1/20/2017
Fox-1Cliff     435.300 MHz &
1267.300 MHz*     145.920 MHz     Launch Fall 2016

Fox-1D     435.350 MHz &
1267.350 MHz*     145.880 MHz     Launch Fall 2016
* Switchable by command station. Not operational simultaneously.

SO-50 (SaudiSat-1C)
     Uplink FM
(67 Hz CTCSS)     Downlink FM     Comments

SO-50     145.850 MHz     436.795 MHz     Operational
SO-50 also has a 10 minute timer that must be armed before use. Transmit 
a 2 second carrier with a CTCSS tone of 74.4 Hz to arm the timer.

===================================================================

Linear Satellite Frequency Summary

AO-7 Mode A ? V/a Non-Inverting Analog SSB/CW
Uplink USB     145.850 MHz     through     145.950 MHz
Downlink USB     29.400 MHz     through     29.500 MHz
Beacon 29.502 MHz

AO-7 Mode B ? U/v Inverting Analog SSB/CW
Uplink LSB     432.125 MHz     through     432.175 MHz
Downlink USB     145.975 MHz     through     145.925 MHz
Beacon 145.975 MHz

AO-73 (FUNcube-1) ? U/v Inverting Analog SSB/CW
Uplink LSB     435.150 MHz     through     435.130 MHz
Downlink USB     145.950 MHz     through     145.970 MHz
Beacon 145.935 MHz telemetry.

FO-29 (JAS-2) ? V/u Inverting Analog SSB/CW
Uplink LSB     146.000 MHz     through     145.900 MHz
Downlink USB     435.800 MHz     through     435.900 MHz
Beacon 435.795 MHz

XW-2A (CAS-3A) ? U/v Inverting Analog SSB/CW
Uplink USB     435.030 MHz     through     435.050 MHz
Downlink USB     145.685 MHz     through     145.665 MHz
CW Beacon 145.660 MHz. Digital Telemetry 145.640 MHz 9.6/19.2kbps, GMSK

XW-2B (CAS-3B) ? Not Activated
Uplink LSB     435.090 MHz     through     435.110 MHz
Downlink USB     145.750 MHz     through     145.730 MHz
CW Beacon 145.725 MHz. Digital Telemetry 145.705 MHz 9.6/19.2kbps, GMSK

XW-2C (CAS-3C) ? U/v Inverting Analog SSB/CW
Uplink LSB     435.150 MHz     through     435.170 MHz
Downlink USB     145.815 MHz     through     145.795 MHz
CW Beacon 145.790 MHz. Digital Telemetry 145.145.770 MHz 9.6/19.2kbps, GMSK

XW-2D (CAS-3D) ? Not Activated
Uplink LSB     435.210 MHz     through     435.230 MHz
Downlink USB     145.880 MHz     through     145.860 MHz
CW Beacon 145.855 MHz. Digital Telemetry 145.835 MHz 9.6/19.2kbps, GMSK

XW-2F (CAS-3F) ? U/v Inverting Analog SSB/CW
Uplink LSB     435.330 MHz     through     435.350 MHz
Downlink USB     146.000 MHz     through     145.980 MHz
CW Beacon 145.975 MHz. Digital Telemetry 145.955 MHz 9.6kbps, GMSK

EO-79 (QB50p1 / FUNcube-3)  ? Not Activated
Uplink LSB     435.035 MHz     through     435.065 MHz
Downlink USB     145.965 MHz     through     145.935 MHz
CW beacon / 1.2kbps BPSK telemetry 145.815 MHz.

UKube-1 (FUNcube-2) ? U/v Inverting Analog SSB/CW
Uplink LSB     435.080 MHz     through     435.060 MHz
Downlink USB     145.930 MHz     through     145.950 MHz
Primary CW / 1.2 ? 9.6 kbps telemetry downlink 145.840 MHz.

Nayif-1 (FUNcube on Nayif-1) ? Launch Scheduled Fall 2016
Uplink LSB     435.045 MHz     through     435.015 MHz
Downlink USB     145.960 MHz     through     145.990 MHz
FUNcube on Nayif-1 1.2kbps BPSK telemetry 145.940 MHz.


-- 

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From koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl  Sat Jun 25 13:46:51 2016
From: koos at kzdoos.xs4all.nl (Koos van den Hout)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 15:46:51 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Operational Satellites and Frequencies
In-Reply-To: <458b4952-2b8e-5038-ef10-b7080d9023bb@arrl.net>
References: <458b4952-2b8e-5038-ef10-b7080d9023bb@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <20160625134651.GA9056@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>

Quoting Bruce who wrote on Sat 2016-06-25 at 08:28:

> I pulled these from the AMSAT.ORG webpage. I dropped the list onto
> my iPhone in Notes to have it readily available for Field Day. These
> are the FM and Linear birds that should be active.

Thanks to the maintainers at amsat.org and you. It's the kind of
comprehensive list that also helps the rest of the year!

-- 
Camp Wireless, the site about wireless Internet    | Koos van den Hout
access at campsites http://www.camp-wireless.org/  | http://idefix.net/
PGP keyid 0xF0D7C263                               | IPv6 enabled!

From gwhink41 at msn.com  Sat Jun 25 13:30:11 2016
From: gwhink41 at msn.com (george hinkle)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:30:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] field day
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP205AC572DCA88BCED6754ECD42F0@phx.gbl>

I will be operating field day for the "Sangmon Vally Radio Club".
The club call is    W9DUA     in grid   EM59

george wi9i

From jonsylv22 at btinternet.com  Sat Jun 25 14:22:25 2016
From: jonsylv22 at btinternet.com (john & sylvia)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 15:22:25 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Use O 13 from Perth in 1990s?
Message-ID: <u2rny58appecda1sjt74p1sk.1466864545712@email.android.com>


I was called by a VK station in Perth Australia while testing my 5w rig and hand held 70cm 10 element yagi in my attic!?

Not just once but twice 2 days running via the Oscar 13 satellite. Think it was about 37000 km out in space in its elliptical orbit at the time. This took place in the mid 1990s and was a good solid SSB contact.?

My QTH was IO90LW .... Clanfield just north of Portsmouth UK. Never did get
a QSL card!?

Anybody know who this may have been?
73 John G8HUY / G0WEH

Sent from Samsung Mobile

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 25 15:07:27 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:07:27 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5YM 1A AR from EM26wd
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ8+PbuxN_HS+8WZHC-fHUsD-oQu52avQSeWpE_d18paDA@mail.gmail.com>

HOPE to be on some SO-50 passes and MAYBE AO-85.

Peter

-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From skristof at etczone.com  Sat Jun 25 17:13:43 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 13:13:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Android OS apps?
Message-ID: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>

I finally joined the 21st century and got a smartphone (Samsung with
Android OS). Anyone want to recommend their "must-have" apps to put on
this thing?  

I looked at the list of available apps and figured I would just some
folks who know about these things. That's you! 

Thank you! 

Steve AI9IN

From co8tw at frcuba.co.cu  Sat Jun 25 18:20:35 2016
From: co8tw at frcuba.co.cu (co8tw at frcuba.co.cu)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 13:20:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CubaSat-1
Message-ID: <53713.172.16.43.105.1466878835.squirrel@www.frcuba.co.cu>



http://www.convenciones.uo.edu.cu/index.php/IICICT/CIIE2016/paper/viewFile/207/15


From e.krome at comcast.net  Sat Jun 25 17:56:59 2016
From: e.krome at comcast.net (Ed Krome)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 13:56:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Android OS apps?
In-Reply-To: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
References: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <6C810668-A36D-4E3B-9518-D046811BA80D@comcast.net>

Try "ISS DETECTOR". Best satellite scheduling program I have encountered. Lots more than just ISS. 
For receiving with an RTL-SDR dongle and USB-to-go cable, "RF Analyzer" works well. (SDR Touch is another similar but I have not had nearly as good results)

Ed Krome   K9EK
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:13 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> 
> I finally joined the 21st century and got a smartphone (Samsung with
> Android OS). Anyone want to recommend their "must-have" apps to put on
> this thing?  
> 
> I looked at the list of available apps and figured I would just some
> folks who know about these things. That's you! 
> 
> Thank you! 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
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From pconver at gmail.com  Sat Jun 25 20:30:50 2016
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:30:50 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Android OS apps?
In-Reply-To: <6C810668-A36D-4E3B-9518-D046811BA80D@comcast.net>
References: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
	<6C810668-A36D-4E3B-9518-D046811BA80D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CANTZqKmKuc-wbzMQ0-3fbLW1kubEPS1FRFOhcAi2U-naFcgQ0g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Steve,

On my Android Samsung Smartphone I use http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm

It's not an app, just a web page, will easily show, track and announce
available Sats and frequencies, once started once will run even
without Internet.

Wishing good luck with the birds.

73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso

From eric_csuf at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 25 17:41:49 2016
From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:41:49 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] [skcc] Android OS apps?
In-Reply-To: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
References: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP65E8F814D8871ADAD10ABE8E2F0@phx.gbl>

I don't have many, but here are the ones I use when I'm away from the 
base station and have cell coverage:

QRZDroid for QRZ lookups

NCDXF Beacon which shows the timing of their beacons to identify them.

Ham Radio Log a VERY simple logger when I can't find my pen in the dark.

Morse Trainer to practice head copy in the doctor's waiting room.

Eric KE6US

SKCC 86



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>
>
> I finally joined the 21st century and got a smartphone (Samsung with 
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> this thing?
>
> I looked at the list of available apps and figured I would just some 
> folks who know about these things. That's you!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
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From mccardelm at gmail.com  Sun Jun 26 02:39:29 2016
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 22:39:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-178 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CAM5+sos=bAA+r0JLwoxEcYqmbjm5W8s2pOyKNu5ODZSpB1Edyg@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-178

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Fox-1Clif and Fox-1D Launch Window Update
* 2016 AMSAT Symposium Call for Papers
* AMSAT-SA Invites SDR Transponder Developers
* Sathyabamasat Update
* AMSAT P4 Information Published
* UKube-1 Transponder Remains Active
* Bahamas Satellite Activation
* Final Call For Speakers For The AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2016
* CY9C St. Paul Island Expedition June Update
* 2016 Candidates for the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Announced
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over


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AMSAT News Service Bulletin 178.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
June 26, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
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Fox-1Clif and Fox-1D Launch Window Update

AMSAT has been informed that the launch period for Fox-1Cliff and
Fox-1D has been moved and is now commencing on September 1, 2016 and
ending on November 30, 2016.

Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D will be integrated onto the Spaceflight SHERPA
platform for its maiden flight aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 launching
into a sun-synchronous orbit from Vandenberg Air Force Base. Fox-
1Cliff and Fox-1D carry university experiments from Pennsylvania
State-Erie, Vanderbilt, University of Iowa, cameras provided by
Virginia Tech, as well as amateur radio voice repeaters capable of
U/V or L/V operation.

[ANS thanks AMSAT and Paul N8HM for the above information]


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2016 AMSAT Symposium Call for Papers

This is the first call for papers for the 2016 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting
and Space Symposium to be held on the weekend of November 10- 14,
2016. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster
presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur
satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation
as soon as possible, but no later than September 15th. The final copy
must be submitted by October 15th for inclusion in the printed
proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz at
n8fgv(at)amsat.org

The 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual Meeting will be held aboard
the cruise ship Carnival Liberty departing from the port of Galveston,
Texas on November 10, 2016 and returning to port on November 14, 2016.

[ANS thanks 2016 Symposium Committee for the above information]


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AMSAT-SA Invites SDR Transponder Developers

AMSAT SA is accelerating the development of its Kletskous
transponder by introducing a parallel development process. Two RF
experts have recent joined the team, they are Leon Lessing ZS6LMG and
Francois Visser ZS1CED.

At its recent strategy meeting the association discussed its long
term plans which includes the development of a Software Defined Radio
transponder and other digital payloads.  Radio Amateurs who have an
interest in being part of discussions on these projects are invited
to send their contact details including their Skype address to
saamsat at intekom.com.za.  For more information on SDR visit the AMSAT
SA website at www.amsatsa.org.za and download the SDR presentation
delivered by Deon Coetzee ZR1DE at the recently held space symposium.
Join the conversation!

{ANS thanks the SARL weekly news in English 2016-6-25 for the above
information]


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Sathyabamasat Update

Forwarding a message received at the AMSAT Office. Keps sent by the
Sathyabamasat team leader:

I am Dr. K. Vasanth, team leader for sathyabamasat. Please find the
TLE of sathyabamasat that was launched in PSLV c34 on 22 June 2016 by
ISRO

SATHYABAMASAT
1 99995U 16040Z  16175. 20805119  -.00000069  00000-0  00000+0 0 9993
2 99995  97.5054 234.3601 0013199 239.3342 211.7362 15.18710336  154

Kindly track our satellite and send me the tracked results if
possible.
E-mail vasanthecek at gmail dot com

Thank you for the help

regards

Dr. K. Vasanth

[ANS thanks the Sathyabamasat Team for the above information]


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AMSAT P4 Information Published

AMSAT-DL published information on Friday about their P4 mission:
http://tinyurl.com/ANS178-amsat-p4-a-es-hail-2 (posted in German but
on-line translation services are useful)

The AMSAT-DL Phase 4 brochure is available at:
http://amsat-dl.org/images/stories/satellites/Eshail-2/P4A_Leaflet.pdf

AMSAT-UK covers this news also:
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/24/phase-4a-transponder-video/

[ANS thanks AMSAT-DL and AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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UKube-1 Transponder Remains Active

UKube-1's transponder continues to remain active.  Users will find
that their signals may disappear during short periods when the
satellite's primary beacon is active.  Once the primary beacon's
transmission is finished, the transponder will go back to normal.  The
145.15 MHz telemetry from FUNcube-2 is being copied a bit higher at
145.16 MHz.  Users have noted that the transponder uplink is roughly
13-15 KHz high as well.

[ANS thanks Clayton W5PFG for the above information]


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Bahamas Satellite Activation

Gabriel Zeifman, KM4RTS, made a successful satellite activation of the
Bahamas as C6AGZ on Sunday, June 19.  He reports that his Logbook of
the World certificate has been approved and he will soon be uploading
the contacts.  Following his activation of the Bahamas, he activated
several grid squares via satellite on a trip to Oklahoma City where he
will reside following his recent college graduation.  A relative
newcomer to satellites, Gabriel has been steadily improving his
portable station and now operates all FM and linear SSB transponders
with ease using a pair of Yaesu FT-817ND transceivers and an Arrow II
satellite antenna.

[ANS thanks Clayton W5PFG for the above information]


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Final Call For Speakers For The AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2016

Final call for speakers for the AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2016 which will
be held from Saturday, July 29 to Sunday, July 31, 2016 at the
Holiday Inn, Guildford, GU2 7XZ, United Kingdom:

https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/

AMSAT-UK invites speakers, to cover topics about Amateur satellites,
CubeSats, Nanosats, space and associated activities, for this event.

They are also invited to submit papers for subsequent publishing on
the AMSAT-UK web site or Oscar News.

Those wishing to participate should contact Dave, G4DPZ, dave at
g4dpz dot me dot uk

[ANS thanks Dave, G4DPZ for the above information]


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CY9C St. Paul Island Expedition June Update

CY9C ST. PAUL ISLAND DXPEDITION (Update, dated June 18th). Randy,
N0TG, reports: The countdown is on; just 60 days 'til activation.
Procurement of final materials and supplies is in process and being
shipped to team member K8LEE - Wayne. Wayne and Jay-K4ZLE will rent a
cargo van for transport of most of the gear to our staging area in
Canada departing their homes around 12 August. Phil, VA3QR, will be
driving to the staging area with the generators and several other
items. And, lastly Murray, WA4DAN, will also drive to Dingwall,
Canada, with several yagi's. Other team members will be flying.

The team is excited and looking forward to a very inclusive
operation, i.e, satellite, 2 meter EME, RTTY, CW, SSB.  We also have
plans to include working Tech and General Class. We appreciate the
visits to our website and those who have taken the "NEED SURVEY". We
are gearing up to assure we meet the band and mode needs expressed,
as well as, concentrating on successful contacts on the long and
difficult propagation paths to various locations in Oceania, Japan,
India, Asiatic Russia, western USA and VE, etc.

Our thanks for the financial support; that helps greatly on the
upfront cost of the dxpedition. Website:
http://www.CY9DXpedition.com

[ANS thanks Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #1270 for the above information]


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2016 Candidates for the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Announced

The 2016 candidates, in alphabetical order by last names are:

Tom Clark, K3IO
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Mark Hammond, N8MH
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

This year AMSAT-NA will be electing three voting members of the Board
of Directors. These will go to the three candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternates
chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.

Ballots will be mailed to the AMSAT-NA membership by July 15, 2016 and
must be received at the AMSAT office by September 15, 2016 in order to
be counted. Those sent outside North America will go by air mail. If
you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for
your location, please contact the AMSAT office. Completed ballots
should be returned as promptly as possible, and those from outside
North America preferably by air mail.

Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an
opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of
AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that
will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the
Board. You have the option to vote for up to three candidates.


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA Secretary, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM, for the
above information]


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ARISS News

+ A Successful contact was made between Gagarin From Space, "Slavic
Commonwealth" Sochi, Russia and Cosmonaut Oleg Skripochka RN3FU using
Callsign RS0ISS. The contact began 2016-06-19 09:30 UTC and lasted
about nine and a half minutes. Contact was direct via R2?16SS.
ARISS Mentor was Sergey RV3DR.

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule

Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU
Contact is a go for Thu 2016-06-30 07:55 UTC

Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium, Bruchsal, Germany, direct via DN1JKG
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled  astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-07-01  08:31:23 UTC

[ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above
information]

Exp. 46 back on  earth. Congratulations on a job well done!
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy  Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

[ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ John 9H5G reports that I'll once again be active in C6 from
  January. I expect to activate the following grids: FL 05, 15, 14,
  24, 23, 22, and possibly 21. Some of these will be /MM as they
  lack land.

  Unless I magically come across a pair of 817s or the like I'll only
  be on the FM birds although I may do some APRS once I get that
  figured out.

  [ANS thanks John 9H5G for the aboive information]

+  Congratulations to Frank Westphal for the Got Grids Award #16

   For more info on these free awards go to www.starcommgroup.org

   These awards are free we only ask that you make a donation to
   Amsat if you can.

   [ANS thanks Damon WA4HFN for the above information]

+ 2016 ARRL / TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference )

  Hilton Saint Petersburg Bayfront Hotel Tampa, FL
  September 16 - 19, 2016
  DCC Information at: www.tapr.org/dcc

  [ANS thanks Mark Thompson for the above information]

+ Satellite presentations in September - So CA

  Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his satellite
  presentations in two venues in Southern CaliforniaSeptember.

  Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
  Downey Amateur Radio Club
  First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California.
  The church is between 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use
  2nd St, East from Downey Ave (one block north of Firestone Blvd.)
  adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double glass doors on the north
  side of 2nd St.

  Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
  Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley.
  CA.

  [ANS thanks Southgate ARN for the above information]

+ Free Downloads: Mars Explorers Wanted Posters

  Mars needs you! In the future, Mars will need all kinds of
  explorers, farmers, surveyors, teachers ? but most of all, YOU! Join
  NASA on the Journey to Mars as we explore with robots and, one day,
  send humans there.

  Download a Mars poster that speaks to you. Each of the eight posters
  represents a different type of explorer NASA is seeking.

  You can view them online, print them and share them with your
  friends.

  Check out the posters at http://tinyurl.com/ANS178-MoreOnMars

  And for more information about Mars, visit http://mars.nasa.gov/

  [ANS thanks the NASA Education Express Message -- June 23, 2016 for
   the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
EMike McCardel, AA8EM (former KC8YLD)
kc8yld at amsat dot org

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Sun Jun 26 05:46:06 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 01:46:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Android OS apps?
In-Reply-To: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
References: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKN9Bd93mVEQVR_Je3FfDpf1iqeCO1P32EQKrvYr-0TUjQ@mail.gmail.com>

In addition to ISS Tracker I really like heavens above. Made by the same
people that made the heavens above website.

John KG4AKV
On Jun 25, 2016 1:13 PM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> I finally joined the 21st century and got a smartphone (Samsung with
> Android OS). Anyone want to recommend their "must-have" apps to put on
> this thing?
>
> I looked at the list of available apps and figured I would just some
> folks who know about these things. That's you!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Jun 26 06:12:58 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 06:12:58 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Android OS apps?
In-Reply-To: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
References: <f9f10a05270ff39f3cdc1933fdba822a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUefGpn5Fggv+D8hBOuGpj0qxZRyAvjYBKiX4PsWXa_QqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Steve,

Satellite tracking and pass prediction on Android devices.... go
for AmsatDroid Free. Good app, and - like the name of the app says -
free.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

(back home after Field Day trip to northern Arizona)


On Saturday, June 25, 2016, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> I finally joined the 21st century and got a smartphone (Samsung with
> Android OS). Anyone want to recommend their "must-have" apps to put on
> this thing?
>
> I looked at the list of available apps and figured I would just some
> folks who know about these things. That's you!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
>
>

From peter.guelzow at kourou.de  Sun Jun 26 10:43:48 2016
From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (Peter Guelzow)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:43:48 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB transponder
Message-ID: <25e461b8-86b0-0532-9120-97a3a16d271a@kourou.de>

First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB transponder
====================================================

the first geostationary P4-A satellite Es'hail-2 will carry two amateur
radio transponders:

- a Narrowband (NB) transponder with 250 kHz bandwidth and
- a Wideband   (WB) transponder with 8 MHz bandwidth for Digital Amateur
Television (DATV, DVB-S2 standard)

The NB transponder is a bent-pipe, non-inverting, linear transponder
with AGC.


A LEILA-2 system, similar to LEILA flown on AMSAT OSCAR-40 (P3-D) will
be used for Traffic Control and Telemetry Beacons.
The mayor difference is, that this is a ground-based system which will
be installed at the Es'hailSat Satellite Control Center (SCC) near Doha
in Qatar.

LEILA-2 will analyze the downlink power levels in the passband of the
NB-transponder and automatically generate a Siren to remark users to
decrease their uplink power.

LEILA-2 is a joint development of AMSAT-DL's Achim Vollhardt DH2VA and
AMSAT-UK's Howard Long G6LVB.

LEILA is an german acronym for "LEIstungs Limit Anzeige", which means:  
Power Limit Indicator


The following video gives a first insight to the Es'hail-2 LEILA-2
hardware concept: https://youtu.be/v-9jVw-pK0A


73s  Peter DB2OS, AMSAT-DL



From richard.siff at verizon.net  Sun Jun 26 11:46:00 2016
From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:46:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] K4AMG FD
Message-ID: <551CF2B05F12461DA11F31D5EC57A681@BanjoPC>

Thank you everyone for our FO 29 contacts.  We were able to work the first 1/2 of our pass.  As our antennas turned towards the airport the local radar took over.

We were the GOTA station for the RASON club.

Rich
K4AMG.org

From skristof at etczone.com  Sun Jun 26 15:26:25 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:26:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Android SDR to FoxTelem
Message-ID: <242a7104fb21f74cb14789e855e7516a@etczone.com>

Anyone putting together a FoxTelem app for Android? 

Steve AI9IN

From clintbradford at mac.com  Sun Jun 26 18:49:21 2016
From: clintbradford at mac.com (Clint Bradford)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:49:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
Message-ID: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>

ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter 
Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th 
satellite presentations in September.

"I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club," 
Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving their 
region well for more than FIFTY years."

"The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show for 
them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad 
jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "

Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
four-page tutorial beforehand at ?

http://www.work-sat.com

? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint at clintbradford.com .

Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to experience an 
hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM birds?
Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!

Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
Downey Amateur Radio Club
First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is between 
2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave (one 
block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double glass 
doors on the north side of 2nd St.

Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.

/end/

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Sun Jun 26 20:01:33 2016
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:01:33 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1
Message-ID: <88FD36B0D99C42D18EC7228AD3442E53@allgood.local>

Hi All,

Just to confirm that FC1 is now back in autonomous mode for the week. If the spacecraft is in sunlight then you have high power telemetry. If it is in eclipse then low power telemetry and the transponder are available.

73

Graham
G3VZV

From Mat_62 at charter.net  Sun Jun 26 23:10:23 2016
From: Mat_62 at charter.net (Michael)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:10:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>
References: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>
Message-ID: <577060DF.90404@charter.net>

It sure would be nice if you would quit telling people that full duplex 
is "not mandatory" for working sats.  It absolutely should be MANDATORY. 
Having full duplex should be stated as rule # 1 of operating on a 
satellite regardless of which  one it is and what mode you are 
operating. Not using full duplex results in needless interference and 
frustration. Just my humble opinion.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/26/2016 2:49 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th
> satellite presentations in September.
>
> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving their
> region well for more than FIFTY years."
>
> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show for
> them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad
> jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "
>
> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
> four-page tutorial beforehand at ?
>
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint at clintbradford.com .
>
> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to experience an
> hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM birds?
> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>
> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
> Downey Amateur Radio Club
> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is between
> 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave (one
> block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double glass
> doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>
> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>
> /end/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From mvivona at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 26 23:34:53 2016
From: mvivona at yahoo.com (mvivona at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 23:34:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <577060DF.90404@charter.net>
References: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>
	<577060DF.90404@charter.net>
Message-ID: <2077369631.1519381.1466984093271.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I humbly agree with you Michael. Even though I do understand that some Hams can not afford a second radio, the swarms of cheap radios on the market lately has pretty much alleviated that issue.Maybe it's not always possible, but attempting full duplex is not only better practice, but is a very gratifying challenge to anyone that hears what the have been missing. 

I give you a thumbs up sir.
?KC4ZVA

      From: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
   
It sure would be nice if you would quit telling people that full duplex 
is "not mandatory" for working sats.? It absolutely should be MANDATORY. 
Having full duplex should be stated as rule # 1 of operating on a 
satellite regardless of which? one it is and what mode you are 
operating. Not using full duplex results in needless interference and 
frustration. Just my humble opinion.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/26/2016 2:49 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th
> satellite presentations in September.
>
> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving their
> region well for more than FIFTY years."
>
> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show for
> them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad
> jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "
>
> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
> four-page tutorial beforehand at ?
>
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint at clintbradford.com .
>
> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to experience an
> hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM birds?
> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>
> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
> Downey Amateur Radio Club
> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is between
> 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave (one
> block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double glass
> doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>
> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>
> /end/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

  

From ka3hsw at att.net  Mon Jun 27 00:02:20 2016
From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:02:20 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB
	transponder
References: <25e461b8-86b0-0532-9120-97a3a16d271a@kourou.de>
Message-ID: <A8E85D53628D493EAE3BC864CC21F221@parents>

There were more than a few stations that could have benefitted from that on 
Field Day...  heard AO-7 jump to mode A twice from being hammered too hard.

George, KA3HSW


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Guelzow" <peter.guelzow at kourou.de>
To: "amsat forum" <forum at amsat-dl.org>; "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 5:43 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB 
transponder


> First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB transponder
> ====================================================
>
> the first geostationary P4-A satellite Es'hail-2 will carry two amateur
> radio transponders:
>
> - a Narrowband (NB) transponder with 250 kHz bandwidth and
> - a Wideband   (WB) transponder with 8 MHz bandwidth for Digital Amateur
> Television (DATV, DVB-S2 standard)
>
> The NB transponder is a bent-pipe, non-inverting, linear transponder
> with AGC.
>
>
> A LEILA-2 system, similar to LEILA flown on AMSAT OSCAR-40 (P3-D) will
> be used for Traffic Control and Telemetry Beacons.
> The mayor difference is, that this is a ground-based system which will
> be installed at the Es'hailSat Satellite Control Center (SCC) near Doha
> in Qatar.
>
> LEILA-2 will analyze the downlink power levels in the passband of the
> NB-transponder and automatically generate a Siren to remark users to
> decrease their uplink power.
>
> LEILA-2 is a joint development of AMSAT-DL's Achim Vollhardt DH2VA and
> AMSAT-UK's Howard Long G6LVB.
>
> LEILA is an german acronym for "LEIstungs Limit Anzeige", which means:
> Power Limit Indicator
>
>
> The following video gives a first insight to the Es'hail-2 LEILA-2
> hardware concept: https://youtu.be/v-9jVw-pK0A
>
>
> 73s  Peter DB2OS, AMSAT-DL
>
>
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From pklein at threshinc.com  Sun Jun 26 23:55:15 2016
From: pklein at threshinc.com (Peter Klein)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:55:15 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] For sale, FT-736r, TE amps, more
Message-ID: <dc6fd539-e7aa-4dd6-128d-652ee6e7580e@threshinc.com>

*** FOR SALE ***
I'm looking for new homes for the following. Asking prices do not 
include shipping, insurance. Local pickup welcome. Contact is pklein at 
threshinc dot com. Reasonable offers will be considered.

Unless otherwise noted, all this equipment was purchased new in c. 
1995-6, I am the original owner. Transceiver and indoor accessories' 
condition is very good to excellent.

-------------

Yaesu FT-736r SSB/CW/FM/Satellite Transceiver. I used it on Oscar 10 and 
13, Mir, etc. With original box and manual. Has 2m and 70cm stock 
modules. With hand mic, Keyer-B, FTS-8 CTCSS tone board, 500 Hz CW 
filter. Excellent shape, all functions work fine. Internal AC power 
supply works. Minor issue: The external speaker jack is worn and 
occasionally mutes the built-in speaker. Tap the rear of the cabinet and 
it comes back. Rather than mess with it, I just used the headphone jack 
for an external speaker.
--- $650.00 ---

Yaesu MD-1 desk mic, works with the 736r and many other Yaesu radios 
(8-pin plug). This was bought used last year. Great sound.
--- $120 ---

TE 1406G amp, 144 MHz, 25w in, 100w out. GAsFET preamp. With manual.
--- $250.00 ---

TE 4412G amp, 430-450 MHz, 30w in, 100w out. GAsFET preamp. With manual.
--- $250 ---

TIMEWAVE DSP-599zx AM SSB CW digital selectivity filter, noise 
reduction, heterodyne eliminator. Excellent at reducing noise for weak 
signal VHF/UHF operation, worked great on satellites. Original box and 
manual, first version firmware.
---$250 ---

Kansas City Tracker board (full-size ISA board, only fits older PCs). It 
worked last time I used it several years ago. With docs and software.
--- $30 ---

Landwehr 144 MHz mast-mount GASFET preamp. It works, amplifies weak 
signals as it should. The N connectors are good. The 5-pin power and 
control socket has some oxidation and the label on the face has faded 
due to sunlight.
--- $125 ---

M2 EB-144 2m "Eggbeater" Antenna. Works, was outdoors since mid-90s, so 
shows some oxidation.
--- $100 ---

Advanced Receiver Research 10 meter receiver preamp. Remember Mode A?
--- $20 ---


-- Peter, KD7MW


From mr.soup12 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 02:20:44 2016
From: mr.soup12 at gmail.com (Oliver Krystal)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:20:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <2077369631.1519381.1466984093271.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>
	<577060DF.90404@charter.net>
	<2077369631.1519381.1466984093271.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57708D7C.8010801@gmail.com>

The cheap radios can have issues with harmonics desensitizing them.

While I also agree that full duplex is very useful, I think you are 
asking to much of a new ham (at least) to spend close to $250 in radios 
to try something.  That's if they build their own antenna and have 
feedline handy.

Now, if a ham happens to have two HTs of decent quality to be put to 
use, that is another story.

On 06/26/2016 06:34 PM, mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I humbly agree with you Michael. Even though I do understand that some Hams can not afford a second radio, the swarms of cheap radios on the market lately has pretty much alleviated that issue.Maybe it's not always possible, but attempting full duplex is not only better practice, but is a very gratifying challenge to anyone that hears what the have been missing.
>
> I give you a thumbs up sir.
>   KC4ZVA
>
>        From: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net>
>   To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>   Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:10 PM
>   Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
>
> It sure would be nice if you would quit telling people that full duplex
> is "not mandatory" for working sats.  It absolutely should be MANDATORY.
> Having full duplex should be stated as rule # 1 of operating on a
> satellite regardless of which  one it is and what mode you are
> operating. Not using full duplex results in needless interference and
> frustration. Just my humble opinion.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
> On 6/26/2016 2:49 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter
>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th
>> satellite presentations in September.
>>
>> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
>> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving their
>> region well for more than FIFTY years."
>>
>> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show for
>> them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad
>> jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "
>>
>> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
>> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
>> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
>> four-page tutorial beforehand at ?
>>
>> http://www.work-sat.com
>>
>> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
>> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint at clintbradford.com .
>>
>> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to experience an
>> hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM birds?
>> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>>
>> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
>> Downey Amateur Radio Club
>> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is between
>> 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave (one
>> block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double glass
>> doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>>
>> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
>> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>>
>> /end/
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From g0kla at arrl.net  Mon Jun 27 02:33:33 2016
From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:33:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Android SDR to FoxTelem
In-Reply-To: <242a7104fb21f74cb14789e855e7516a@etczone.com>
References: <242a7104fb21f74cb14789e855e7516a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOf0+t3hZHT9i6WOEA=wCfwTs8TqCk7=PYpfWfL5bDUjJuvXw@mail.gmail.com>

Steve,

Not that I know of.  If you are an Android developer then I can explain how
the code base works.  The core decoder should work, but the audio
(soundcard) input and the graphical interface will need to be rewritten.
While Java is cross platform, Android does not support the Swing GUI AFAIK.

Chris
ac2cz/g0kla

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:26 AM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> Anyone putting together a FoxTelem app for Android?
>
> Steve AI9IN
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Mon Jun 27 03:00:01 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 03:00:01 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <57708D7C.8010801@gmail.com>
References: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>
	<577060DF.90404@charter.net>
	<2077369631.1519381.1466984093271.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<57708D7C.8010801@gmail.com>
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Oliver,

Hams don't have to spend $250 to try satellites anymore. Yes, the
Chinese-made radios come with varying quality control. If you get
good examples of those radios, you might only spend $50 or $60 for
two radios. I have worked SO-50 with two Baofeng HTs - two UV-5Rs,
and one UV-5R with one UV-82. The two UV-5Rs cost about $60, and
the UV-82 was about $37 when I bought it in 2014. I even used a
Baofeng pair (transmit from a UV-82, receive with a UV-5R) for a
hamfest demonstration in May 2014 - illustrating that working
satellites doesn't cost much money for the radios.

If a ham already has a decent dual-band HT, a $25 or $30 Baofeng HT
as the transmit radio in a full-duplex FM satellite station is
(my opinion) not asking too much. Are there hams who can't afford even
$25 or $30 for another radio? Sure. But at these prices, the arguments
against actively encouraging full-duplex operation pretty much go away.

Why do I say that the Baofeng HT should be used as the transmit
radio, and not the receive radio, in the two-radio example above?
In most cases, the non-Chinese-made HTs have better receivers
for satellite work than the Chinese-made HTs. There are some
Chinese-made dual-band HTs have receivers that do a good job with
our FM satellites, and I had written about some of them when I
reviewed a few for use with AO-85 a few months ago in a series
of posts on this list.

Yes, hams don't need to go full-duplex to work FM satellites,
especially those with 2m uplinks like SO-50 or LilacSat-2.
This is a
true statement. I even worked a LilacSat-2 pass last night during
Field Day using a single Wouxun KG-UV9D HT - a radio that can work
U/V satellites like AO-85 and the upcoming Fox-1 FM satellites
full-duplex, but not SO-50 or LilacSat-2 due to desense issues
when transmitting on 2m. The audience I had last night saw that it
was possible, but also saw me working SO-50 and XW-2F full-duplex
earlier in the day, and saw the advantages of working satellites
full-duplex.

The antennas can be homebrewed. The WA5VJB "Cheap Yagi" design is
a great dual-band Yagi, for those not interested in spending
$125 to $150 for an Elk or an Arrow. Using a 2m/70cm antenna is
desirable over the 2m-only Yagis of various designs, especially
since we now have FM satellites that require a 70cm uplink like AO-85
and the other Fox-1 FM satellites in the pipeline.

The best part about all of this - all of this gear can be used for
non-satellite activities. Local repeaters, simplex, and (when
paired up with a TNC or software on a computer) even packet. The
packet setup could be used with terrestrial packet, or with the
orbiting digipeaters on the ISS and NO-84. This is a lot better than
the situation in the past for working satellites.

And, in keeping with the title of this thread, I will give a
satellite presentation in southern California during September.
I will give a presentation at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Amateur Radio Club's monthly meeting on 23 September 2016 in Pasadena,
discussing current and upcoming amateur satellite projects.
I'm looking forward to making my second trip for a presentation
in California this year, after a presentation in Long Beach last
March. Along with answering questions about my presentation,
I'll be happy to answer other questions about satellite operating
from those in attendance at that meeting.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK





On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:20 AM, Oliver Krystal <mr.soup12 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The cheap radios can have issues with harmonics desensitizing them.
>
> While I also agree that full duplex is very useful, I think you are asking
> to much of a new ham (at least) to spend close to $250 in radios to try
> something.  That's if they build their own antenna and have feedline handy.
>
> Now, if a ham happens to have two HTs of decent quality to be put to use,
> that is another story.
>
>

From clintbrad4d at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 27 03:37:49 2016
From: clintbrad4d at earthlink.net (Clint Bradford)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 20:37:49 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>

>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.

You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups, 
"It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds
 is all over the place:

"Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can
simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."

People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.

And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-
duplex is preferable.

I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard 
the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.

If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds, 
I am available. Just send me an email message.

Clint Bradford K6LCS
(909) 999-SATS

From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 04:21:33 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:21:33 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>
References: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHXx8jeMTgzrxZVNk120nZRbmCnpz1XgoxQCBSrBo00Nfed+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Any plans to demo the satellites on this presentation? Some of us are
always available to be the voices at the other end of the satellite (AO-85,
SO-50, FO-29, etc).

It will also give us an opportunity to add you to our logs. I've been doing
this since October and haven't heard you on one of the birds yet.

73
Fernando, NP4JV
On Jun 26, 2016 12:48 PM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford at mac.com> wrote:

> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th
> satellite presentations in September.
>
> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving
> their
> region well for more than FIFTY years."
>
> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show
> for
> them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad
> jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "
>
> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
> four-page tutorial beforehand at ?
>
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint at clintbradford.com .
>
> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to
> experience an
> hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM
> birds?
> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>
> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
> Downey Amateur Radio Club
> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is
> between
> 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave
> (one
> block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double
> glass
> doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>
> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>
> /end/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Mon Jun 27 04:44:02 2016
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:44:02 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <CAGHXx8jeMTgzrxZVNk120nZRbmCnpz1XgoxQCBSrBo00Nfed+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CE344300-E59D-4294-B2D3-133F9DB8CF73@mac.com>
	<CAGHXx8jeMTgzrxZVNk120nZRbmCnpz1XgoxQCBSrBo00Nfed+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002601d1d02e$8791fe20$96b5fa60$@charter.net>

Well, Fernando, if you are lucky enough to make a sat qso with Clint, don't hold yer breathe for a QSL card. Despite SASE and email promises, good old 'Clint' never got around to it  x3  (2010). 
Oh well, made the VUCC anyway..

73, Ted
K7TRK
#226

p.s. Clint, don't need it now

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Fernando Ramirez
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:22 PM
To: Clint Bradford
Cc: AMSAT -BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations

Any plans to demo the satellites on this presentation? Some of us are always available to be the voices at the other end of the satellite (AO-85, SO-50, FO-29, etc).

It will also give us an opportunity to add you to our logs. I've been doing this since October and haven't heard you on one of the birds yet.

73
Fernando, NP4JV
On Jun 26, 2016 12:48 PM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford at mac.com> wrote:

> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter Clint 
> Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th satellite 
> presentations in September.
>
> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been 
> serving their region well for more than FIFTY years."
>
> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth 
> show for them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change 
> some of the bad jokes that are interspersed throughout the 
> presentation ... "
>
> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham 
> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have 
> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a four-page 
> tutorial beforehand at ?
>
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at 
> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint at clintbradford.com .
>
> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to 
> experience an hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on 
> working the FM birds?
> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>
> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
> Downey Amateur Radio Club
> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is 
> between 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from 
> Downey Ave (one block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. 
> Entrance via double glass doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>
> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>
> /end/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect 
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From clintbrad4d at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 27 04:35:05 2016
From: clintbrad4d at earthlink.net (Clint Bradford)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:35:05 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <05316230-E694-4EF8-A1D9-C75940D705F7@earthlink.net>

>> ... Any plans to demo the satellites on this presentation?

Several times I have interrupted myself in the middle of a presentation and told the group, 
"OK - everybody up and outside. My wife will stay and watch your belongings. We're going 
to work a bird RIGHT NOW ... "

I enjoyed reading about your then-record distance record on '85 - quite an achievement! 
i am sure we'll meet up sometime ...

Clint K6LCS



From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 05:26:06 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:26:06 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <05316230-E694-4EF8-A1D9-C75940D705F7@earthlink.net>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<05316230-E694-4EF8-A1D9-C75940D705F7@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAGHXx8jJPJqw+0a48a5P=rp6Ew+tU+EX4KQK-tck7Gh1Nh+E_g@mail.gmail.com>

Looking forward for that QSO.

73
Fernando, NP4JV

PS: You don't need to wait for one of your presentations to get on the air.
I am available anytime to work the birds.
On Jun 26, 2016 9:57 PM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >> ... Any plans to demo the satellites on this presentation?
>
> Several times I have interrupted myself in the middle of a presentation
> and told the group,
> "OK - everybody up and outside. My wife will stay and watch your
> belongings. We're going
> to work a bird RIGHT NOW ... "
>
> I enjoyed reading about your then-record distance record on '85 - quite an
> achievement!
> i am sure we'll meet up sometime ...
>
> Clint K6LCS
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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>

From skristof at etczone.com  Mon Jun 27 09:53:01 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 05:53:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
Message-ID: <ndd8j2oj5lbbe35agt5eafrq.1467021181915@email.android.com>

Attempting full-duplex as a best practice is agreeable but is certainly a different animal than making it MANDATORY. Sounds like the folks in my CW club who post on the sked page "QRO ONLY" or the folks who think everybody must be able to do 20 wpm before they put a dit on the air. Let's keep it a hobby, help and encourage newcomers, and not block folks from trying things by setting unnecessarily high bars to entry.Steve AI9IN


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> Date: 6/26/2016  7:34 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net>, amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations 
I humbly agree with you Michael. Even though I do understand that some Hams can not afford a second radio, the swarms of cheap radios on the market lately has pretty much alleviated that issue.Maybe it's not always possible, but attempting full duplex is not only better practice, but is a very gratifying challenge to anyone that hears what the have been missing. 

I give you a thumbs up sir.
?KC4ZVA

????? From: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
?? 
It sure would be nice if you would quit telling people that full duplex 
is "not mandatory" for working sats.? It absolutely should be MANDATORY. 
Having full duplex should be stated as rule # 1 of operating on a 
satellite regardless of which? one it is and what mode you are 
operating. Not using full duplex results in needless interference and 
frustration. Just my humble opinion.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/26/2016 2:49 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th
> satellite presentations in September.
>
> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving their
> region well for more than FIFTY years."
>
> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show for
> them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad
> jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "
>
> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
> four-page tutorial beforehand at ?
>
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint at clintbradford.com .
>
> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to experience an
> hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM birds?
> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>
> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
> Downey Amateur Radio Club
> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is between
> 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave (one
> block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double glass
> doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>
> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>
> /end/
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From daron at wilson.org  Mon Jun 27 15:25:50 2016
From: daron at wilson.org (Daron Wilson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:25:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <D058493E-B533-4B05-A221-6981413DD85C@wilson.org>

Cliff, unless I'm missing something, you claim below to never say:

> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD."

Then you say what you tell your class is:

> Although this
> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: 

I'm a little confused...



Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.
> 
> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups, 
> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds
> is all over the place:
> 
> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can
> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
> 
> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.
> 
> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-
> duplex is preferable.
> 
> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard 
> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
> 
> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds, 
> I am available. Just send me an email message.
> 
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> (909) 999-SATS
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 15:54:51 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:54:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
	transmissions?
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPxs6V1HS9FhLbM19=xMtJrsjB=zrqCvVnzRs0O209aWA@mail.gmail.com>

I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
or heard that.

Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.

Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.

Thanks,

John Brier KG4AKV

From kellyrkeeton at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 15:59:53 2016
From: kellyrkeeton at gmail.com (Kelly Keeton)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:59:53 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <D058493E-B533-4B05-A221-6981413DD85C@wilson.org>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>
	<D058493E-B533-4B05-A221-6981413DD85C@wilson.org>
Message-ID: <6AF3436B-4E3C-45C6-96D9-05BFDA646172@gmail.com>

Can we argue in a less public email reflector. 

We all get it - some people like ford some people like Chevy let's bury it or take it offline. My inbox is tired of this. 

Sent from a mobile device. 

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Daron Wilson <daron at wilson.org> wrote:
> 
> Cliff, unless I'm missing something, you claim below to never say:
> 
>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD."
> 
> Then you say what you tell your class is:
> 
>> Although this
>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory:
> 
> I'm a little confused...
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.
>> 
>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups, 
>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds
>> is all over the place:
>> 
>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can
>> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
>> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>> 
>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.
>> 
>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-
>> duplex is preferable.
>> 
>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard 
>> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>> 
>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds, 
>> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>> 
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> (909) 999-SATS
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From kj6ko at innercite.com  Mon Jun 27 16:11:22 2016
From: kj6ko at innercite.com (Greg Stahlman)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 09:11:22 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS
	SSTV	transmissions?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKPxs6V1HS9FhLbM19=xMtJrsjB=zrqCvVnzRs0O209aWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKPxs6V1HS9FhLbM19=xMtJrsjB=zrqCvVnzRs0O209aWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002101d1d08e$8d21a1a0$a764e4e0$@com>

When Commander Wheatlock was up there, I had many!  I just programmed the DL
and UL freqs in my vehicle and he would show up on channel calling CQ
randomly.  Haven't heard much of that since then.  Probably worked him at
least 5 times randomly.  Still listening.

 

KJ6KO

 

From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
transmissions?

 

I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
or heard that.

Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.

Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.

Thanks,

John Brier KG4AKV
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 16:15:52 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:15:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS
 SSTV transmissions?
In-Reply-To: <002101d1d08e$8d21a1a0$a764e4e0$@com>
References: <CALn0fKPxs6V1HS9FhLbM19=xMtJrsjB=zrqCvVnzRs0O209aWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<002101d1d08e$8d21a1a0$a764e4e0$@com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKP7nOEFcv+VnNTA2ufFoMSj68ZN5yBN8WNSJWQu=zNP5g@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW, He thinks he'll be going back up around 2019 and he told me he's
going to try and beat the record for QSOs by from the ISS. He said
he'll be using the radio "until sparks fly off of it." I met him twice
this year and that's what he told me each time.

However I am not looking for evidence of any voice QSO with the ISS
but evidence/references to QSOs *in between* the Russian SSTV
transmissions. It's for a video I'm working on for my YouTube channel.
I know they have happened, I just need examples that demonstrate that
for the video.

Thanks for your response,

John KG4AKV

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Greg Stahlman <kj6ko at innercite.com> wrote:
> When Commander Wheatlock was up there, I had many!  I just programmed the DL
> and UL freqs in my vehicle and he would show up on channel calling CQ
> randomly.  Haven?t heard much of that since then.  Probably worked him at
> least 5 times randomly.  Still listening.
>
>
>
> KJ6KO
>
>
>
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
> transmissions?
>
>
>
> I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
> ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
> or heard that.
>
> Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
> SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.
>
> Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 27 16:28:36 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:28:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS
 SSTV transmissions?
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKP7nOEFcv+VnNTA2ufFoMSj68ZN5yBN8WNSJWQu=zNP5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKPxs6V1HS9FhLbM19=xMtJrsjB=zrqCvVnzRs0O209aWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<002101d1d08e$8d21a1a0$a764e4e0$@com>
	<CALn0fKP7nOEFcv+VnNTA2ufFoMSj68ZN5yBN8WNSJWQu=zNP5g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqz6wpGHxaWjqM1W+3AuV4AdjJf+dsZ5hjSne6BD1Eb_Q@mail.gmail.com>

No QSOs were made here, but they were calling:

https://soundcloud.com/paul-stoetzer/cosmonaut-greeting-and-sstv-from-the-iss

I wasn't set up to transmit :(

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:15 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> FWIW, He thinks he'll be going back up around 2019 and he told me he's
> going to try and beat the record for QSOs by from the ISS. He said
> he'll be using the radio "until sparks fly off of it." I met him twice
> this year and that's what he told me each time.
>
> However I am not looking for evidence of any voice QSO with the ISS
> but evidence/references to QSOs *in between* the Russian SSTV
> transmissions. It's for a video I'm working on for my YouTube channel.
> I know they have happened, I just need examples that demonstrate that
> for the video.
>
> Thanks for your response,
>
> John KG4AKV
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Greg Stahlman <kj6ko at innercite.com> wrote:
>> When Commander Wheatlock was up there, I had many!  I just programmed the DL
>> and UL freqs in my vehicle and he would show up on channel calling CQ
>> randomly.  Haven?t heard much of that since then.  Probably worked him at
>> least 5 times randomly.  Still listening.
>>
>>
>>
>> KJ6KO
>>
>>
>>
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier
>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
>> To: AMSAT BB
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
>> transmissions?
>>
>>
>>
>> I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
>> ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
>> or heard that.
>>
>> Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
>> SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.
>>
>> Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John Brier KG4AKV
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 16:32:20 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:32:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS
 SSTV transmissions?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqz6wpGHxaWjqM1W+3AuV4AdjJf+dsZ5hjSne6BD1Eb_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKPxs6V1HS9FhLbM19=xMtJrsjB=zrqCvVnzRs0O209aWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<002101d1d08e$8d21a1a0$a764e4e0$@com>
	<CALn0fKP7nOEFcv+VnNTA2ufFoMSj68ZN5yBN8WNSJWQu=zNP5g@mail.gmail.com>
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Heh, Yup. I have that same recording from April 19th 2015 at 1033 (I
think Eastern US Time). I was setup for TX and transmitted on 144.49
but obviously he didn't respond to me. I don't think he intended to
have a QSO with anyone.

Ideally I am looking for references to voice QSOs between SSTV
transmissions from anytime before this SSTV event in April 2015.

John KG4AKV

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> No QSOs were made here, but they were calling:
>
> https://soundcloud.com/paul-stoetzer/cosmonaut-greeting-and-sstv-from-the-iss
>
> I wasn't set up to transmit :(
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:15 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
>> FWIW, He thinks he'll be going back up around 2019 and he told me he's
>> going to try and beat the record for QSOs by from the ISS. He said
>> he'll be using the radio "until sparks fly off of it." I met him twice
>> this year and that's what he told me each time.
>>
>> However I am not looking for evidence of any voice QSO with the ISS
>> but evidence/references to QSOs *in between* the Russian SSTV
>> transmissions. It's for a video I'm working on for my YouTube channel.
>> I know they have happened, I just need examples that demonstrate that
>> for the video.
>>
>> Thanks for your response,
>>
>> John KG4AKV
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Greg Stahlman <kj6ko at innercite.com> wrote:
>>> When Commander Wheatlock was up there, I had many!  I just programmed the DL
>>> and UL freqs in my vehicle and he would show up on channel calling CQ
>>> randomly.  Haven?t heard much of that since then.  Probably worked him at
>>> least 5 times randomly.  Still listening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> KJ6KO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Brier
>>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
>>> To: AMSAT BB
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
>>> transmissions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
>>> ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
>>> or heard that.
>>>
>>> Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
>>> SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.
>>>
>>> Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John Brier KG4AKV
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From w1pa at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 27 18:47:45 2016
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill Acito)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 18:47:45 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] FD: W1BIM 6A WMA
Message-ID: <BL2PR03MB24446915253FAC934887E9598210@BL2PR03MB244.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

For the 13 of you who worked me (including W1AW) , thanks for the 
QSO's.  We were in FN32, if you need the grid.

I ran a modest satellite set-up for Central MA ARA; IC-820H and Arrow on 
a camera tripod. 12 Q's on FO-29, and 1 Q on AO-85. I left my spot at 
the 40 CW tent to work one AO85 pass and four FO-29 passes overnight and 
Sunday morning.

I am a testament to prepping prior to FD --  spent much of May learning 
and practicing on FO-29; it became clear very early that I wasn't going 
to learn manual doppler control in a month, so I added SatPC32 to manage 
it and added an Icom "vox box" to the 820 to free up a hand and to allow 
me to hand control the Arrow and spin the VFO.

Bill


From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 27 19:12:21 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:12:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoYHp24y2Z9J+8xnszr9-7kNxRmuvMXX-WTC0cTaYuBhQ@mail.gmail.com>

I only worked satellites during Field Day and I ended up making 97
QSOs on 24 passes of all active 10 voice satellites during the 24 hour
period. My score for AMSAT Field Day was 83 points.

The breakdown by satellite is below:

AO-7B - 2 QSOs
AO-73 - 10 QSOs, 1 dupe
AO-85 - 1 QSO, 5 excess FM QSOs
FO-29 - 37 QSOs, 4 dupes
LilacSat-2 - 1 QSO, 1 excess FM QSO
SO-50 - 1 QSO
Ukube-1 - 6 QSOs
XW-2A - 11 QSOs
XW-2C - 6 QSOs, 2 dupes
XW-2F - 8 QSOs, 1 dupe

Total - 83 valid phone QSOs, 8 dupes, 6 excess FM QSOs = 83 points

The major difference between AMSAT and ARRL Field Day rules for
satellite is that "satellite" is considered a single band while for
AMSAT Field Day, each satellite transponder is considered a separate
band. For example, if I worked WD9EWK in SSB on FO-29 and then in SSB
on XW-2A, that would be worth two points under AMSAT rules, but only
one point under ARRL rules. VE3YRA was my most worked station this
year - I worked them on six different satellites.

I was operating 1B from the parking lot/courtyard of my apartment
building in southwest Washington, DC.

The equipment I used was as follows:

2 x Yaesu FT-817 (with 3000 mAh internal LiPo batteries)
Microset VUR-30 dual band amplifier
5100 mAh LiPo battery for the amplifier
High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamplifier
High Sierra Microwave LNAA146FIL filtered 2m preamp
Arrow II 146/437-10BP Dual Band Handheld Yagi

All of this was carried in a camera bag and held by shoulder straps
while I held the Arrow in my hand.

It was lots of fun, though tiring to head downstairs and outside for
24 different passes. I only slept for about 2.5 hours between 3:30am
and 6:00am (and skipped a pair of AO-7 passes as a result).

One big issue I notice during Field Day is the use of excess power on
the transponders and the inexperience and/or inadequate stations used
by many of the satellite operators. Many times I would call a station
and not receive a reply or someone would start CQing or tuning up on
top of me. This was especially noticeable on AO-73 and UKube-1 as the
frequencies for the uplink are somewhat different than published. It
sounded like many were trying to use their computers to correct for
Doppler and did not have the experience necessary to set the uplink
offset. I heard several "ditters" trying to find themselves for entire
passes. Operating satellites isn't difficult, but it does take some
practice and experience to understand the characteristics of each
satellite. Trying to figure it out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday is
not the recipe for success.

I would note that my excess FM QSOs (both ARRL and AMSAT rules allow
only one QSO per FM satellite, AMSAT rules further limit APRS
digipeater QSOs to one per satellite as well) were made because
stations were calling and attempting to make a contact with no one
else replying and I wanted to make sure they got their QSO.

It's fun doing Field Day from home, but next year I think I would like
to head to a Field Day site and help with satellite operations for a
club (and maybe fill in elsewhere between passes).

73,

Paul, N8HM

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 19:57:44 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:57:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoYHp24y2Z9J+8xnszr9-7kNxRmuvMXX-WTC0cTaYuBhQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOoYHp24y2Z9J+8xnszr9-7kNxRmuvMXX-WTC0cTaYuBhQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ-aZhzXHFkeqMg_iDUiuahaBye7UobDmEDLw+p9y6ocyQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> Operating satellites isn't difficult, but it does take some
> practice and experience to understand the characteristics of each
> satellite. Trying to figure it out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday is
> not the recipe for success.

Not counting obsolete SAREX/MIR/AO-13 experience, I managed to make a
few QSOs before I got the idea to try to get the bonus for the FD
group I was with (W5YM, my alma mater, celebrating their centennial).
Even though I stuck to FM 'phone and mostly SO-50 at that, it was
still enough of a zoo (for the reasons you mentioned) to keep me from
snagging the bonus.

Next summer, I think it would behoove AMSAT to try to get the word
out, probably via an ARRL bulletin, for folks NOT to try to figure it
out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday!  Word it nicely, of course, "hey,
try the easy sats this weekend".  Heck, you could even bill it as a
pre-FD tune-up exercise ...

*Might* lessen the chaos on FD itself.  *Might*.  Certainly a low-cost
effort with a good potential payoff ...

In my case, I think enough folks were impressed just at how loud the
signals are that we may see some new stations show up on the sats.



-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From cspacone at socal.rr.com  Mon Jun 27 19:59:49 2016
From: cspacone at socal.rr.com (Chris Spacone)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:59:49 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <6AF3436B-4E3C-45C6-96D9-05BFDA646172@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>
	<D058493E-B533-4B05-A221-6981413DD85C@wilson.org>
	<6AF3436B-4E3C-45C6-96D9-05BFDA646172@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7628292C-581E-4B05-A0B2-C89E004535C2@socal.rr.com>

Agreed. No more.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 08:59, Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Can we argue in a less public email reflector. 
> 
> We all get it - some people like ford some people like Chevy let's bury it or take it offline. My inbox is tired of this. 
> 
> Sent from a mobile device. 
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Daron Wilson <daron at wilson.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Cliff, unless I'm missing something, you claim below to never say:
>> 
>>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD."
>> 
>> Then you say what you tell your class is:
>> 
>>> Although this
>>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory:
>> 
>> I'm a little confused...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.
>>> 
>>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups, 
>>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds
>>> is all over the place:
>>> 
>>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can
>>> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
>>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
>>> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>>> 
>>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.
>>> 
>>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-
>>> duplex is preferable.
>>> 
>>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard 
>>> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>>> 
>>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds, 
>>> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>>> 
>>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>>> (909) 999-SATS
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 27 20:10:44 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 16:10:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ-aZhzXHFkeqMg_iDUiuahaBye7UobDmEDLw+p9y6ocyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOoYHp24y2Z9J+8xnszr9-7kNxRmuvMXX-WTC0cTaYuBhQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ-aZhzXHFkeqMg_iDUiuahaBye7UobDmEDLw+p9y6ocyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpKGa0z6njGdt8yeCrOx=pj0Z7FLA+AcLiZ9fDJ6bdKzA@mail.gmail.com>

That's a great idea! A pre-Field Day event in April or May is
something that would certainly be doable.

Ultimately, poor operating during Field Day is pervasive. It's not
just unique to satellites. There are lots of hams that are rarely
active, but get set up for their club's Field Day.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>> Operating satellites isn't difficult, but it does take some
>> practice and experience to understand the characteristics of each
>> satellite. Trying to figure it out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday is
>> not the recipe for success.
>
> Not counting obsolete SAREX/MIR/AO-13 experience, I managed to make a
> few QSOs before I got the idea to try to get the bonus for the FD
> group I was with (W5YM, my alma mater, celebrating their centennial).
> Even though I stuck to FM 'phone and mostly SO-50 at that, it was
> still enough of a zoo (for the reasons you mentioned) to keep me from
> snagging the bonus.
>
> Next summer, I think it would behoove AMSAT to try to get the word
> out, probably via an ARRL bulletin, for folks NOT to try to figure it
> out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday!  Word it nicely, of course, "hey,
> try the easy sats this weekend".  Heck, you could even bill it as a
> pre-FD tune-up exercise ...
>
> *Might* lessen the chaos on FD itself.  *Might*.  Certainly a low-cost
> effort with a good potential payoff ...
>
> In my case, I think enough folks were impressed just at how loud the
> signals are that we may see some new stations show up on the sats.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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From kk5do at arrl.net  Mon Jun 27 20:40:02 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:40:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day Submissions
Message-ID: <bfa24eb7-bd57-8cb7-9c0b-74e1a94285f9@arrl.net>

Now that Field Day is only a blur, it is time to prepare your score and 
submit it for the AMSAT Field Day results. All submissions are due by 
11:59PM Central Time on Monday, July 11, 2016. I will then prepare the 
story and send it off to the editor of the AMSAT Journal who will have 
it in the upcoming issue that goes to press shortly thereafter.

Please send your score sheet and photos to me

kk5do at arrl.net or kk5do at amsat.org

You will receive an email back that day or the next day when I have 
received your submission. If you do not receive the email from me, I did 
not get it. Don't assume that because you sent it that I have received 
it. Make sure you get the confirmation email.

73...bruce

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From ea4cyq at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 21:33:21 2016
From: ea4cyq at gmail.com (Juan Antonio)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:33:21 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] FV80DX from FJ92PV in AO7
Message-ID: <001f01d1d0bb$8967fb90$9c37f2b0$@gmail.com>

Hello,

I worked FV80DX from FJ92PV through AO7 at 18.00z last Saturday 160625.

I have not seen any comment about this station in amsat-bb and I can not
find any info in the NET.

Signal was clear and I could copy clearly its callsign and locator.

Anybody knows about this station?

Juan Antonio
EA4CYQ


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From ea4cyq at gmail.com  Mon Jun 27 21:36:17 2016
From: ea4cyq at gmail.com (Juan Antonio)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:36:17 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW nick of UKUBE-1?
Message-ID: <002601d1d0bb$f0766dd0$d1634970$@gmail.com>

Hello,

I made my first QSO with this new bird, What nick should I use to load it in
LOTW?

Juan Antonio
EA4CYQ




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From kk0sd1 at att.net  Mon Jun 27 21:06:48 2016
From: kk0sd1 at att.net (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 16:06:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Topic Change -- Now FM Rule -- was -- RE: N8HM Field Day
	Report - 1B MDC -- Topic Change FM Rule
Message-ID: <001401d1d0b7$d2b5d6e0$782184a0$@att.net>

Awesome Field Day report Paul! Good Job!

Now the week after Field Day is the time for RATIONAL discussion of the
single contact FM satellite rule:

Does anyone think it works? Does anyone think it is better than the past?

I will once again trot out my idea for the slings and arrows of others. + I
would love to hear your ideas.

Here is my idea:

We call on our membership to establish two well equipped stations for the FM
satellites on Field Day.  A possibility would be a station using the call
W1AW in the east and another using K6KPH in the west. The only FM satellite
contacts that would 'count' would be those working W1AW or K6KPH. These
commanding stations would be able to hand out contacts quickly and many more
folks would be able to get a satellite contact in the log. As it is now the
best station to call is one that just completed a contact (because you heard
their exchange information) - but that station is prevented by the rules
from returning the call without going over their limit.

Think of it as two stations running and everyone else searching and
pouncing. It has got be better than what we have now.

My Opinion, 73,
Joe, kk0sd

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:12 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC

I only worked satellites during Field Day and I ended up making 97 QSOs on
24 passes of all active 10 voice satellites during the 24 hour period. My
score for AMSAT Field Day was 83 points.

The breakdown by satellite is below:

AO-7B - 2 QSOs
AO-73 - 10 QSOs, 1 dupe
AO-85 - 1 QSO, 5 excess FM QSOs
FO-29 - 37 QSOs, 4 dupes
LilacSat-2 - 1 QSO, 1 excess FM QSO
SO-50 - 1 QSO
Ukube-1 - 6 QSOs
XW-2A - 11 QSOs
XW-2C - 6 QSOs, 2 dupes
XW-2F - 8 QSOs, 1 dupe

Total - 83 valid phone QSOs, 8 dupes, 6 excess FM QSOs = 83 points

The major difference between AMSAT and ARRL Field Day rules for satellite is
that "satellite" is considered a single band while for AMSAT Field Day, each
satellite transponder is considered a separate band. For example, if I
worked WD9EWK in SSB on FO-29 and then in SSB on XW-2A, that would be worth
two points under AMSAT rules, but only one point under ARRL rules. VE3YRA
was my most worked station this year - I worked them on six different
satellites.

I was operating 1B from the parking lot/courtyard of my apartment building
in southwest Washington, DC.

The equipment I used was as follows:

2 x Yaesu FT-817 (with 3000 mAh internal LiPo batteries) Microset VUR-30
dual band amplifier
5100 mAh LiPo battery for the amplifier
High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamplifier High Sierra Microwave LNAA146FIL
filtered 2m preamp Arrow II 146/437-10BP Dual Band Handheld Yagi

All of this was carried in a camera bag and held by shoulder straps while I
held the Arrow in my hand.

It was lots of fun, though tiring to head downstairs and outside for
24 different passes. I only slept for about 2.5 hours between 3:30am and
6:00am (and skipped a pair of AO-7 passes as a result).

One big issue I notice during Field Day is the use of excess power on the
transponders and the inexperience and/or inadequate stations used by many of
the satellite operators. Many times I would call a station and not receive a
reply or someone would start CQing or tuning up on top of me. This was
especially noticeable on AO-73 and UKube-1 as the frequencies for the uplink
are somewhat different than published. It sounded like many were trying to
use their computers to correct for Doppler and did not have the experience
necessary to set the uplink offset. I heard several "ditters" trying to find
themselves for entire passes. Operating satellites isn't difficult, but it
does take some practice and experience to understand the characteristics of
each satellite. Trying to figure it out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday is
not the recipe for success.

I would note that my excess FM QSOs (both ARRL and AMSAT rules allow only
one QSO per FM satellite, AMSAT rules further limit APRS digipeater QSOs to
one per satellite as well) were made because stations were calling and
attempting to make a contact with no one else replying and I wanted to make
sure they got their QSO.

It's fun doing Field Day from home, but next year I think I would like to
head to a Field Day site and help with satellite operations for a club (and
maybe fill in elsewhere between passes).

73,

Paul, N8HM
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 27 21:51:29 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 17:51:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW nick of UKUBE-1?
In-Reply-To: <002601d1d0bb$f0766dd0$d1634970$@gmail.com>
References: <002601d1d0bb$f0766dd0$d1634970$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqj2=6zqOGC=u_1c2boMJVSzXXHJCYa7x8BPU6nhCUh6A@mail.gmail.com>

Juan,

The satellite is not in LoTW yet. I've sent an email to the FUNcube
team to ask if they want it in LoTW as UKube-1 or if they want to wait
for a potential future OSCAR designation.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Juan Antonio <ea4cyq at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I made my first QSO with this new bird, What nick should I use to load it in
> LOTW?
>
> Juan Antonio
> EA4CYQ
>
>
>
>
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Jun 27 21:58:40 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 17:58:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Topic Change -- Now FM Rule -- was -- RE: N8HM Field
 Day Report - 1B MDC -- Topic Change FM Rule
In-Reply-To: <001401d1d0b7$d2b5d6e0$782184a0$@att.net>
References: <001401d1d0b7$d2b5d6e0$782184a0$@att.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoAQf2_0ht+huXAx3_D5KdYyrfExAVA3BKEe3C8QLOZUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Gary,

That has been suggested in the past, but I'm not sure it would work. I
heard several stations ignoring the one QSO rule on the one pass of
SO-50 that I listened to. That rule is longstanding and well known, so
I don't know how you'd actually implement some sort of net control
system.

The best solution is having many options available to try. Hopefully
next year will be better with the addition of Fox-1Cliff, Fox-1D, and
RadFxSat / Fox-1B to the FM satellite fleet.

By the way, LilacSat-2 passes during Field Day were quite
underutilized. I called for several minutes on the first East Coast
pass before working one station. I then heard another station call
with no reply, so I worked them as well. Many more stations could have
gotten the satellite bonus by checking the AMSAT status page and
seeing that it was on. This brings me back to my original point, if
people can't be bothered to check which satellites are active, how are
you going to coordinate a net control system as suggested? A couple of
us were joking that people were probably still trying to work AO-27
and AO-51 during Field Day.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Gary "Joe" Mayfield <kk0sd1 at att.net> wrote:
> Awesome Field Day report Paul! Good Job!
>
> Now the week after Field Day is the time for RATIONAL discussion of the
> single contact FM satellite rule:
>
> Does anyone think it works? Does anyone think it is better than the past?
>
> I will once again trot out my idea for the slings and arrows of others. + I
> would love to hear your ideas.
>
> Here is my idea:
>
> We call on our membership to establish two well equipped stations for the FM
> satellites on Field Day.  A possibility would be a station using the call
> W1AW in the east and another using K6KPH in the west. The only FM satellite
> contacts that would 'count' would be those working W1AW or K6KPH. These
> commanding stations would be able to hand out contacts quickly and many more
> folks would be able to get a satellite contact in the log. As it is now the
> best station to call is one that just completed a contact (because you heard
> their exchange information) - but that station is prevented by the rules
> from returning the call without going over their limit.
>
> Think of it as two stations running and everyone else searching and
> pouncing. It has got be better than what we have now.
>
> My Opinion, 73,
> Joe, kk0sd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Stoetzer
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 2:12 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC
>
> I only worked satellites during Field Day and I ended up making 97 QSOs on
> 24 passes of all active 10 voice satellites during the 24 hour period. My
> score for AMSAT Field Day was 83 points.
>
> The breakdown by satellite is below:
>
> AO-7B - 2 QSOs
> AO-73 - 10 QSOs, 1 dupe
> AO-85 - 1 QSO, 5 excess FM QSOs
> FO-29 - 37 QSOs, 4 dupes
> LilacSat-2 - 1 QSO, 1 excess FM QSO
> SO-50 - 1 QSO
> Ukube-1 - 6 QSOs
> XW-2A - 11 QSOs
> XW-2C - 6 QSOs, 2 dupes
> XW-2F - 8 QSOs, 1 dupe
>
> Total - 83 valid phone QSOs, 8 dupes, 6 excess FM QSOs = 83 points
>
> The major difference between AMSAT and ARRL Field Day rules for satellite is
> that "satellite" is considered a single band while for AMSAT Field Day, each
> satellite transponder is considered a separate band. For example, if I
> worked WD9EWK in SSB on FO-29 and then in SSB on XW-2A, that would be worth
> two points under AMSAT rules, but only one point under ARRL rules. VE3YRA
> was my most worked station this year - I worked them on six different
> satellites.
>
> I was operating 1B from the parking lot/courtyard of my apartment building
> in southwest Washington, DC.
>
> The equipment I used was as follows:
>
> 2 x Yaesu FT-817 (with 3000 mAh internal LiPo batteries) Microset VUR-30
> dual band amplifier
> 5100 mAh LiPo battery for the amplifier
> High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamplifier High Sierra Microwave LNAA146FIL
> filtered 2m preamp Arrow II 146/437-10BP Dual Band Handheld Yagi
>
> All of this was carried in a camera bag and held by shoulder straps while I
> held the Arrow in my hand.
>
> It was lots of fun, though tiring to head downstairs and outside for
> 24 different passes. I only slept for about 2.5 hours between 3:30am and
> 6:00am (and skipped a pair of AO-7 passes as a result).
>
> One big issue I notice during Field Day is the use of excess power on the
> transponders and the inexperience and/or inadequate stations used by many of
> the satellite operators. Many times I would call a station and not receive a
> reply or someone would start CQing or tuning up on top of me. This was
> especially noticeable on AO-73 and UKube-1 as the frequencies for the uplink
> are somewhat different than published. It sounded like many were trying to
> use their computers to correct for Doppler and did not have the experience
> necessary to set the uplink offset. I heard several "ditters" trying to find
> themselves for entire passes. Operating satellites isn't difficult, but it
> does take some practice and experience to understand the characteristics of
> each satellite. Trying to figure it out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday is
> not the recipe for success.
>
> I would note that my excess FM QSOs (both ARRL and AMSAT rules allow only
> one QSO per FM satellite, AMSAT rules further limit APRS digipeater QSOs to
> one per satellite as well) were made because stations were calling and
> attempting to make a contact with no one else replying and I wanted to make
> sure they got their QSO.
>
> It's fun doing Field Day from home, but next year I think I would like to
> head to a Field Day site and help with satellite operations for a club (and
> maybe fill in elsewhere between passes).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Mon Jun 27 22:32:50 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:32:50 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Topic Change -- Now FM Rule -- was -- RE: N8HM Field
 Day Report - 1B MDC -- Topic Change FM Rule
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoAQf2_0ht+huXAx3_D5KdYyrfExAVA3BKEe3C8QLOZUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401d1d0b7$d2b5d6e0$782184a0$@att.net>
	<CABzOSOoAQf2_0ht+huXAx3_D5KdYyrfExAVA3BKEe3C8QLOZUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfiFTGAJRH_yakrYM+dH2w84EkSFOk989usvamkM27uXw@mail.gmail.com>

Paul,

You are right about the "net control" approach that has been
proposed in the past for Field Day FM satellite passes. Even if
you have Field Day stations complying with a rule change that
mandates contacts only with the "net control" station(s), there
are many times where other stations are on just trying to work
stations for the grids or simply to make contacts. I heard that
on a LilacSat-2 pass Saturday evening. Not a problem for me; I
gave the Field Day exchange and grid to anyone I heard on there,
covering my bases. :-)

Speaking of LilacSat-2... the pass I worked Saturday evening
around 0112 UTC (6.12pm PDT) was surprisingly easy. In all of the
Field Days I have worked via satellite since 2006, I have never
seen an easier FM satellite pass than that one. Maybe the thought
that LilacSat-2 wouldn't be on for the weekend kept many away, but
it did allow me an easy FM satellite demonstration for a ham who
was very interested in satellite operation. Using only a Wouxun
KG-UV9D and my Elk log periodic, I made 6 QSOs on that pass. One
of the 6 will go toward my Field Day score, another one was with
a station not participating in Field Day (he gladly took my grid,
DM45), and the other 4 will go in the log and be listed on my Field
Day submission as non-scoring - something I have done with the extra
FM satellite QSOs on my submissions for past Field Days.

As I mentioned in the e-mail I posted in that other thread last
night, I worked LilacSat-2 half-duplex. The KG-UV9D, like many
dual-band HTs advertised as capable of cross-band full-duplex
operation, doesn't work full-duplex with V/U FM satellites like
LilacSat-2 or SO-50. The half-duplex demonstration was one of several
satellite demonstrations I did at my Field Day site. I also worked
two SO-50 passes using an Icom IC-2730A 2m/70cm FM mobile, which is
capable of cross-band full-duplex operation for V/U and U/V FM
satellites, along with full-duplex operation on XW-2F using an
FT-817ND as the transmitter and an SDRplay SDR receiver with an
8-inch Windows 10 tablet running HDSDR as my receiver. I was able
to show the differences between half-duplex and full-duplex
satellite operation, and explain the clear advantages of full-duplex
satellite operation. I will post more about my Field Day operating
in a separate e-mail, hopefully later this evening, including
my successes with digital QSOs via NO-84 and the ISS.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK






On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> Gary,
>
> That has been suggested in the past, but I'm not sure it would work. I
> heard several stations ignoring the one QSO rule on the one pass of
> SO-50 that I listened to. That rule is longstanding and well known, so
> I don't know how you'd actually implement some sort of net control
> system.
>
> The best solution is having many options available to try. Hopefully
> next year will be better with the addition of Fox-1Cliff, Fox-1D, and
> RadFxSat / Fox-1B to the FM satellite fleet.
>
> By the way, LilacSat-2 passes during Field Day were quite
> underutilized. I called for several minutes on the first East Coast
> pass before working one station. I then heard another station call
> with no reply, so I worked them as well. Many more stations could have
> gotten the satellite bonus by checking the AMSAT status page and
> seeing that it was on. This brings me back to my original point, if
> people can't be bothered to check which satellites are active, how are
> you going to coordinate a net control system as suggested? A couple of
> us were joking that people were probably still trying to work AO-27
> and AO-51 during Field Day.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>

From Mat_62 at charter.net  Tue Jun 28 01:04:54 2016
From: Mat_62 at charter.net (Michael)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:04:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>
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I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of your 
live presentations.  It is printed in black and white in your handout. 
You just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began 
giving out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty 
of spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You 
are leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If 
one does not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from 
the bird so as to insure they are "making it there" then they should not 
be on the satellites. End of story.
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.
> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups,
> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds
>   is all over the place:
>
> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can
> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>
> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.
>
> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-
> duplex is preferable.
>
> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard
> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>
> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds,
> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> (909) 999-SATS
> _______________________________________________
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From afeller at ieee.org  Tue Jun 28 01:13:40 2016
From: afeller at ieee.org (Arthur Feller)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:13:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <5771CD36.5020504@charter.net>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>
	<5771CD36.5020504@charter.net>
Message-ID: <0AD00928-6BB9-4AF4-8A58-72ACB39B725E@ieee.org>

Can we make a modest effort at comity?  Be nice, folks.

> On 27-Jun-2016, at 09:04 PM, Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of your live presentations.  It is printed in black and white in your handout. You just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began giving out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty of spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You are leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If one does not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from the bird so as to insure they are "making it there" then they should not be on the satellites. End of story.
> Michael, W4HIJ
> On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.
>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups,
>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds
>>  is all over the place:
>> 
>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can
>> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
>> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>> 
>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.
>> 
>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-
>> duplex is preferable.
>> 
>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard
>> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>> 
>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds,
>> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>> 
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> (909) 999-SATS
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Everyone, in some small sacred sanctuary of the self, is nuts. 
     -Leo Rosten, author (1908-1997) 


   http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/> 


From k7trkradio at charter.net  Tue Jun 28 01:26:26 2016
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 18:26:26 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <0AD00928-6BB9-4AF4-8A58-72ACB39B725E@ieee.org>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>	<98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>	<5771CD36.5020504@charter.net>
	<0AD00928-6BB9-4AF4-8A58-72ACB39B725E@ieee.org>
Message-ID: <001101d1d0dc$177f0d40$467d27c0$@charter.net>

Comity?   From Merriam-Webster:

"Our country soweth also in the field of our breasts many precious seeds, as
. honest behavior, affability, comity, wrote English clergyman Thomas Becon
in 1543. Becon's use is the earliest documented appearance of comity - a
word derived from Latin comitas, meaning "courteousness" (and probably
related to the Sanskrit word for "he smiles"). Comity is largely used in
political and judicial contexts. Since 1862 comity of nations has referred
to countries bound by a courteous relationship based on mutual recognition
of executive, legislative, and judicial acts. And, in legal contexts, comity
refers to the recognition by courts of one jurisdiction of the laws and
judicial decisions of another.

Nah...too much of that lets the blowhards off the hook..

K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Arthur
Feller
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 6:14 PM
To: Michael
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations

Can we make a modest effort at comity?  Be nice, folks.

> On 27-Jun-2016, at 09:04 PM, Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of your
live presentations.  It is printed in black and white in your handout. You
just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began giving
out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty of
spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You are
leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If one does
not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from the bird so as
to insure they are "making it there" then they should not be on the
satellites. End of story.
> Michael, W4HIJ
> On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory"
for working sats.
>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered 
>> the sentence to groups, "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - 
>> PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds  is all over the place:
>> 
>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, 
>> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are 
>> transmitting. Although this method is preferred, it is not mandatory: 
>> Carefully monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the conversations
to announce yourself."
>> 
>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
instructions.
>> 
>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons 
>> why working full- duplex is preferable.
>> 
>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who 
>> was aboard the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>> 
>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working 
>> the easy birds, I am available. Just send me an email message.
>> 
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> (909) 999-SATS
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
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From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Jun 28 01:40:25 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:40:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
Message-ID: <4533ae70cbe5e3dea8da6ec71d3f57c8@etczone.com>

Confession of ignorance: 

On the pdf Field Day Summary sheet, there is a space for voice QSOs (OK
on those), CW/RTTY/PSK31 (OK on those), and for Up/Downloads (e.g. on
UO-11(?)). 

What is meant by Up/Download with respect to Field Day and/or satellites
in general? I couldn't find UO-11 listed as either a communications
satellite or a telemetry satellite on the AMSAT website list of
satellites. I figured if I found a link for the satellite it would
answer my question. 

A point to a helpful link will be a sufficient answer, but a written
introduction to the topic on this BB would be wonderful. 

Steve AI9IN 

(And I did not try to do any half-semi-anti-duplex up/downloads, so back
off on that.)

From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 28 01:48:31 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:48:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <4533ae70cbe5e3dea8da6ec71d3f57c8@etczone.com>
References: <4533ae70cbe5e3dea8da6ec71d3f57c8@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOp8k7cy2YZdjjO=b6UpSJ-sxZmDo9woFMe9k16nXC3gsQ@mail.gmail.com>

The upload/download section is for store and forward digital mailbox
satellites. None are currently in operation, but AMSAT Field Day rules
still allow messages to be sent and received for points should any be
available in the future.

A few recently launched satellites have indicated this as a possible
operating mode for a secondary mission, but I haven't seen any
information on when these expected to be enabled or even the
modulation and data format required.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:40 PM,  <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
> Confession of ignorance:
>
> On the pdf Field Day Summary sheet, there is a space for voice QSOs (OK
> on those), CW/RTTY/PSK31 (OK on those), and for Up/Downloads (e.g. on
> UO-11(?)).
>
> What is meant by Up/Download with respect to Field Day and/or satellites
> in general? I couldn't find UO-11 listed as either a communications
> satellite or a telemetry satellite on the AMSAT website list of
> satellites. I figured if I found a link for the satellite it would
> answer my question.
>
> A point to a helpful link will be a sufficient answer, but a written
> introduction to the topic on this BB would be wonderful.
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> (And I did not try to do any half-semi-anti-duplex up/downloads, so back
> off on that.)
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From afeller at ieee.org  Tue Jun 28 01:46:37 2016
From: afeller at ieee.org (Arthur Feller)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:46:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
In-Reply-To: <001101d1d0dc$177f0d40$467d27c0$@charter.net>
References: <mailman.2722.1466984140.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<98966BB6-3DE9-4E3F-A033-2F5CA19AE797@earthlink.net>
	<5771CD36.5020504@charter.net>
	<0AD00928-6BB9-4AF4-8A58-72ACB39B725E@ieee.org>
	<001101d1d0dc$177f0d40$467d27c0$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <99989A1A-92FA-4126-80AD-17FBD3A886CB@ieee.org>

My apologies for using old words with this young crowd.  Just be nice to each other, please.  I realize this is a very old problem, but please give it a try.

73, art?..
W4ART  Arlington VA






> On 27-Jun-2016, at 09:26 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Comity?   From Merriam-Webster:
> 
> "Our country soweth also in the field of our breasts many precious seeds, as
> . honest behavior, affability, comity, wrote English clergyman Thomas Becon
> in 1543. Becon's use is the earliest documented appearance of comity - a
> word derived from Latin comitas, meaning "courteousness" (and probably
> related to the Sanskrit word for "he smiles"). Comity is largely used in
> political and judicial contexts. Since 1862 comity of nations has referred
> to countries bound by a courteous relationship based on mutual recognition
> of executive, legislative, and judicial acts. And, in legal contexts, comity
> refers to the recognition by courts of one jurisdiction of the laws and
> judicial decisions of another.
> 
> Nah...too much of that lets the blowhards off the hook..
> 
> K7TRK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Arthur
> Feller
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: Michael
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
> 
> Can we make a modest effort at comity?  Be nice, folks.
> 
>> On 27-Jun-2016, at 09:04 PM, Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of your
> live presentations.  It is printed in black and white in your handout. You
> just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began giving
> out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty of
> spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You are
> leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If one does
> not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from the bird so as
> to insure they are "making it there" then they should not be on the
> satellites. End of story.
>> Michael, W4HIJ
>> On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory"
> for working sats.
>>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered 
>>> the sentence to groups, "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - 
>>> PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds  is all over the place:
>>> 
>>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, 
>>> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are 
>>> transmitting. Although this method is preferred, it is not mandatory: 
>>> Carefully monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the conversations
> to announce yourself."
>>> 
>>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
> instructions.
>>> 
>>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons 
>>> why working full- duplex is preferable.
>>> 
>>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who 
>>> was aboard the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>>> 
>>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working 
>>> the easy birds, I am available. Just send me an email message.
>>> 
>>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>>> (909) 999-SATS
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
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From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 03:31:45 2016
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 03:31:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb]  FV80DX from FJ92PV in AO7
References: <819718762.2645766.1467084705339.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <819718762.2645766.1467084705339.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Juan, my guess is that would be PV8DX Paulo who is located in PJ92pt according to QRZ.  73, Kevin N4UFO



Hello,

I worked FV80DX from FJ92PV through AO7 at 18.00z last Saturday 160625.

I have not seen any comment about this station in amsat-bb and I can not
find any info in the NET.

Signal was clear and I could copy clearly its callsign and locator.

Anybody knows about this station?

Juan Antonio
EA4CYQ

From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 03:49:41 2016
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 03:49:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Southern CA Satellite Presentations
References: <1605014197.2678295.1467085781473.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1605014197.2678295.1467085781473.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

You can hit the delete button. Every time this person with a narcissistic bent blows off and gets corrected here people on this list cry 'take it elsewhere'. The problem is you are rewarding the offending behavior. You are playing right into the hands of the person CREATING the problem in the first place. "I'll do what I want with no repercussions, because if anyone tries to correct me the masses will tell them to stop picking on me and take it off list."


Don't indiscriminately tell everyone to be quiet just because you don't want to hit the delete button. The offender here uses this very public forum to spread his disinformation, yet you want everyone to just allow him to do it without being corrected. He needs to be denied the positive public attention he craves or he will never stop.


Put another way, how do you like it if I say to you, "No more. Take your neutral stance elsewhere. Some people here are trying to stop the encouragement & creation of the chaos that regular satellite users have to deal with daily because of one individuals misinformation. One he has demonstrated time and again has ulterior motives and that needs to be discouraged.


Agreed. No more.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 08:59, Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Can we argue in a less public email reflector. 
> 
> We all get it - some people like ford some people like Chevy let's bury it or take it offline. My inbox is tired of this. 
> 
> Sent from a mobile device. 

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 04:15:44 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:15:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpKGa0z6njGdt8yeCrOx=pj0Z7FLA+AcLiZ9fDJ6bdKzA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOoYHp24y2Z9J+8xnszr9-7kNxRmuvMXX-WTC0cTaYuBhQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ-aZhzXHFkeqMg_iDUiuahaBye7UobDmEDLw+p9y6ocyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOpKGa0z6njGdt8yeCrOx=pj0Z7FLA+AcLiZ9fDJ6bdKzA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> That's a great idea! A pre-Field Day event in April or May is
> something that would certainly be doable.

"Field Day Tune Up"?  "Field Day Practice Session"?

There are a bunch of RTTY guys that do practice nights a few days
before some of the teletype contests, though that may just be an
excuse to operate more.  :-)

Looking at WA7BNM's calendar, there isn't much scheduled for the
"Third Full Weekend In June".  Maybe make that a big "intro to sat
ops" weekend or something.




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue Jun 28 04:31:29 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:31:29 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ-yUj3xOgfuYvp1BTU3L8RpWWzR5rHUknBVWauz9XGBtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOoYHp24y2Z9J+8xnszr9-7kNxRmuvMXX-WTC0cTaYuBhQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ-aZhzXHFkeqMg_iDUiuahaBye7UobDmEDLw+p9y6ocyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOpKGa0z6njGdt8yeCrOx=pj0Z7FLA+AcLiZ9fDJ6bdKzA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ-yUj3xOgfuYvp1BTU3L8RpWWzR5rHUknBVWauz9XGBtA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Peter!

A Field Day practice session, you say? I don't know about the FM
birds, but almost every evening for the week or so before Field
Day that was going on over the ISS and NO-84. That worked well for
three of us... I would work Fernando NP4JV and Rick K7TEJ on the
ISS and NO-84 passes, refining the technique to send and receive
APRS messages to make QSOs. This had to have helped us, as we were
all successful in making packet QSOs through the orbiting digipeaters.
I worked Fernando at K7RDG in southern Arizona, and Rick at WK7B
east of me near Flagstaff. More about this in a separate e-mail,
which I'll post to the AMSAT-BB shortly.

As last week went on, I started hearing some call signs on SO-50
passes that weren't normally on. This seemed to be for pre-Field
Day practice, and it was nice to hear. I still heard lots of stations
on SO-50 passes that sounded like they could have used the practice,
but that's how Field Day goes on the satellites...

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK







On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> > That's a great idea! A pre-Field Day event in April or May is
> > something that would certainly be doable.
>
> "Field Day Tune Up"?  "Field Day Practice Session"?
>
>

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue Jun 28 06:12:55 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 06:12:55 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK - 2016 Field Day report (l-o-n-g)
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUdJLeJz7HpBcnu2y=c_fmsemFqeU7yLmLJ3gnF9HrZ3zg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

This year's Field Day for WD9EWK was back to the mountains, in the Kaibab
National Forest about 25 miles (40km) west of Flagstaff, Arizona, in grid
DM45. This is where I had worked Field Day for a few years in a row until
2012, and really wanted to get back there after the past two Field Days
where I operated from the Phoenix area. I also had another ham who was
trying Field Day for the first time in almost 25 years of being licensed.
For both of us, our plans were almost vaporized as we were heading to our
site, and Murphy stuck around for the early part of the afternoon. We ended
up having a great time, despite the early setbacks.

The ham who accompanied me to the mountains is a long-time ham and coworker
of mine, Mark N7UJI. He has mostly been on VHF/UHF bands, and until a year
or two ago didn't even own an HF rig. Since then, Mark has equipped himself
with some nice gear. Mark still has a Technician license, which limited his
Field Day activities, but he wanted to try his portable station which was
similar to what I took north for HF and 6m: Yaesu FT-897D, Buddipole
portable dipole. Of course, I had other radios with me for the satellites:
Kenwood TH-D72A, Icom IC-2730A, two FT-817NDs, Wouxun KG-UV9D, and an
SDRplay
SDR receiver with a couple of Windows 10 tablets. Our plan was simple - set
up separate stations, then work whatever we could without going crazy.

On our way to the Field Day site, we received calls from our office. A power
cut shut everything down at the office, and we had to stop in Flagstaff to
join a phone call to discuss how to react to the power outage. This ended
our
hopes of having time before the 1800 UTC start of Field Day to set up our
stations, but that didn't stop us. After this and another phone call in the
next hour, we were able to get to the place I had been talking about for
Field Day over the past few weeks...

The site I went to was the Garland Prairie Vista Picnic Ground, along the
old
US-66 between the cities of Flagstaff and Williams in the Kaibab National
Forest. The operative word here is "was". All signage for the picnic area
was
removed, the picnic tables were gone, no restrooms, not even the concrete
sidewalk leading to the former site of the restrooms. Other than the gravel
driveway through the former picnic area, there was nothing left of its
former
state. Mark and I had our own folding chairs and tables, so we found some
trees and set up our stations for HF and 6m under them. We arrived at 1800
UTC, and Mark set up his HF/6m station as I prepared for a shallow ISS pass
about 20 minutes later.

The ISS pass was a shallow pass, with maximum elevation of 10 degrees across
the northern sky. With a hill immediately north of me, I had no luck even
hearing my own packets being retransmitted by the ISS. No QSOs logged, but
there were more - and better - ISS passes later in the afternoon.

As Mark and I set up our HF stations, Murphy paid me a visit. The internal
battery packs in my FT-897D both had problems. After 10 to 15 minutes, one
of the two packs dropped from its nominal 13.2V down to 9V. Something went
wrong with that pack, and soon I discovered a similar problem with the other
pack. I used my jumpstart battery pack that normally powers my satellite
station for the HF/6m gear. Mark's FT-897D packs did not have problems, but
the lack of decent propagation on 10m and 6m meant he didn't do much
operating with his own call. Mark found a club in Prescott, 40 miles (60km)
south of us in Prescott, on 10m SSB for his first HF QSO in the almost 25
years he has had his ham license. I also worked Mark on 10m and 6m SSB, to
give him a couple of other QSOs for his log - and mine. We could have made
QSOs on 2m, 222 MHz, and 70cm, but didn't do that. Mark was happy to play
around with his radio, and watch me work stations. Mark would pay closer
attention to what I was doing, anytime I went to work satellites.

Not knowing if AO-7 would survive the expected onslaught of high power from
so many stations during Field Day, I looked to a western FO-29 pass around
2135 UTC for my first Field Day satellite QSO. This was also a shallow pass,
with a maximum elevation of 8 degrees. I could hear myself through the
satellite using my two FT-817NDs and Elk, but made no QSOs. Again, with
Mark
watching me, I was unsuccessful on a satellite pass. I explained the use of
the two radios for full-duplex operation, how I tracked the satellite using
an app on my mobile phone, and how I twisted the antenna so its polarity
was
in line with the FO-29 downlink.

After the FO-29 pass, there was an SO-50 pass coming up from the south,
going
to the northeast. This was another shallow pass, up to a maximum elevation
of
13 degrees. With my IC-2730A 2m/70cm FM mobile radio and Elk, and the power
output set to LOW (5W), I tried to get through. I may have heard myself
once,
but heard a lot of other stations on that pass. With the next satellite
pass
over an hour away, I started to make a few HF QSOs, and saw a bunch of
passes
on various satellites that should be better for me and my QRP station
later.
An ISS pass at 2312 UTC was the turning point, where Murphy went away...

The 2312 UTC ISS pass, with a maximum elevation of 37 degrees, was a good
pass for me. With the pass going clockwise from the northwest to southeast,
it would cover most of the continental USA and Canada. With my TH-D72A and
Elk, I started watching the HT's screen for stations I could call and make
QSOs with. I changed my APRS position beacon to show "CQ FD" followed by
my Field Day station classification, state, and grid locator. That worked
well, as VE5AA in Saskatchewan sent me an APRS message with their Field
Day exchange. I was able to complete the exchange with VE5AA, and this was
my first Field Day satellite QSO for 2016. I tried for other QSOs, and was
successful making exchanges via APRS messages with two other stations -
KK6QMS in southern California, followed by K7RDG in southern Arizona.
K7RDG, the Cochise Amateur Radio Association club station, was operated by
Fernando NP4JV on the ISS pass. Fernando tweeted later in the day that the
K7RDG-WD9EWK ISS packet QSO got K7RDG its first Field Day satellite QSO. I
also saw another Arizona club station on that pass, WK7B, but was not able
to get that station in the log. Not yet, at least...

About 10 minutes after the ISS went by, there was an SO-50 pass that
favored the west coast. Back to the IC-2730A and Elk I went, the radio set
at 5W, and this time a successful satellite QSO using the microphone
instead of just using packet. I made a quick QSO early in the pass with
W6KA in southern California, the Pasadena Radio Club's station, operated
by Tom WA0POD. I heard myself through SO-50 at other points later in the
pass, but I logged no other QSOs.

I went back to HF, made a couple of 20m SSB QSOs, and decided to focus on
just satellite passes over the next hour or so before Mark and I packed up
for the day. At 0035 UTC, NO-84 passed by from the northwest to the south,
up to a maximum elevation of 56 degrees. I started sending my position
beacon, basically calling CQ on the pass. Exactly one other station showed
up on this pass - WK7B. WK7B was the Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club's Field
Day station, located northeast of Flagstaff and 26 miles (almost 42km) east
of me. The Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club is a Phoenix-area club, and they -
like me - prefer to do Field Day in the mountains of northern Arizona. :-)
Rick K7TEJ was at the keyboard for the packet activity from WK7B. Rick and
I, along with Fernando NP4JV, had been practicing how to make quick packet
QSOs on ISS and NO-84 passes over the previous week or so, and it paid off.
Even with the weaker downlink from NO-84 compared to the ISS, it was easy
for us to complete the Field Day exchange. Unfortunately for both Rick and
me, nobody else showed up on the pass.

A few minutes after NO-84 went away, there was one more ISS pass for me to
try at 0049 UTC. I worked two stations on that pass - KG6BFD in southern
California, and Jack KC7MG in central Arizona - but neither of these
stations
sent me a Field Day exchange. I had sent my "1B AZ" Field Day exchange plus
my grid locator DM45. I saw a few other stations from California and Nevada
on the pass, but wasn't able to make any other QSOs. This was the last of
my Field Day packet QSOs, and two more passes were coming up in the
0100-0200
UTC hour.

A few minutes after 0100 UTC came a very high LilacSat-2 pass. I saw that
the
satellite had been active on earlier passes, so I took a chance and set up
for
it. I was not disappointed. For this pass, instead of using the IC-2730A I
used on the earlier SO-50 passes, I went with my Wouxun KG-UV9D and the Elk.
This meant I was only working half-duplex, but the joke between Mark and me
was "Chinese radio, for a Chinese satellite". LilacSat-2 rose to a maximum
elevation of 63 degrees, and I almost thought this was something other than
Field Day.

As the satellite rose from the south, I quickly made a contact with Glenn
AA5PK in west Texas. I had seen Glenn on one of the earlier ISS passes, but
missed getting a QSO with him then. This was the LilacSat-2 QSO that will go
toward my Field Day score, but it wasn't my last contact. I worked 5 other
stations, most of whom were operated by hams I know - W6KA operated by Tom
WA0POD, Fernando NP4JV in Tucson after leaving the K7RDG Field Day station,
Jack KC7MG in central Arizona (again, no Field Day exchange with KC7MG, but
still nice to make the QSO), and Frank K6FW in California.

The LilacSat-2 pass, being a very orderly pass, allowed me to explain to my
audience - OK, it was an audience of one, Mark N7UJI - some things about
satellite operating. For example, how I was working LilacSat-2 half-duplex,
compared to using full-duplex on the FO-29 and SO-50 passes earlier. I made
QSOs, but explained how working full-duplex meant I didn't have to rely on
anyone else to answer me before knowing that my signals were making it
through the satellite. I also demonstrated how antenna polarity matters for
satellite operating, simply by twisting my Elk antenna to make the downlink
signal sound weaker, before twisting it so the signal sounded better again.

Along with answering Mark's questions about satellite operating, Mark was
paying attention to the QSOs I made. He heard how most were calling me by
name, and I knew their names. Mark asked me "Do you know all these people?"
A little later, another question: "Why don't you save yourself some time
and ask, 'Is there anyone I don't know on?'" I had to laugh at this one,
knowing that this was a small part of the wider community of amateur radio
operators, and many of us who work satellites do know each other and cross
paths at different events.

By this point in the late afternoon/early evening, around 0130 UTC (6.30pm
local time), sunlight was starting to go away. Clouds, along with the trees
around the picnic area, meant it would be dark here before sunset. I wanted
to show Mark one more satellite pass, and have a shot at additional QSOs to
wrap up my 2016 Field Day. XW-2F was coming by to the west, up to a maximum
elevation of 32 degrees. A nice pass. I used an FT-817ND as my transmit
radio, and the receive side of my station was an SDRplay SDR receiver with
HDSDR running on an 8-inch Windows 10 tablet. Both were connected through
a diplexer to my Elk log periodic. I plugged in a speaker, so Mark could
hear what I heard from the SDRplay and tablet. I explained how the SDR
receiver worked compared to a "normal" radio, where I could receive more
than a single frequency, and in this case see the entire transponder
downlink on the tablet's screen. Many of you here have read about my SDR
exploits on this list and in other forums, and Mark liked what he saw. As
with the earlier FO-29 and SO-50 passes, I worked XW-2F full-duplex.

Once the satellite came up from the south, I made a quick QSO with Frank
K6FW in California. After this QSO, it seemed like the center of the XW-2F
transponder sounded like FO-29 on many passes - a few stations were
competing for the center of the transponder. I tried to make a couple of
other QSOs, but with so many stations in the small transponder, and at one
point having to deal with someone sending CW over my SSB signals, I made
no other QSOs. After the unsuccessful passes earlier in the day, I was
finally able to show Mark some examples of amateur satellite operating -
different modes (SSB, FM, packet), different radios or combinations of
radios, and a fair amount of "what to do" and "what not to do" for
satellite operating.

After XW-2F went away, Mark and I packed up our stations, and drove to
Flagstaff for dinner. After that, the 2-hour drive home. Even with only 3
QSOs in his log, Mark had fun. I had as much fun talking radio and being
able to successfully demonstrate satellite operating for Mark, along with
making some QSOs for my own log.

I have updated my log, and uploaded all of my Field Day QSOs to Logbook of
the World, but haven't started to put together my entries for Field Day. I
logged a total of 21 Field Day satellite QSOs, and 3 other QSOs that only
involved exchanges of grid locators. All done with only 5W transmit power,
to stay within the Field Day QRP power class. By satellite...

ISS:        three Field Day packet QSOs on 2312 UTC pass, two non-Field Day
            packet QSOs on 0048 UTC pass. Station: TH-D72A/Elk

NO-84:      one Field Day packet QSO on 0035 UTC pass. Station: TH-D72A/Elk

SO-50:      one Field Day FM QSO on 2334 UTC pass. Station: IC-2730A/Elk

LilacSat-2: one Field Day FM QSO on 0111 UTC pass, 4 other non-scoring Field
            Day QSOs and one non-Field Day FM QSO. Station: KG-UV9D/Elk

XW-2F:      one Field Day QSO on 0134 UTC pass. Station: FT-817ND/SDRplay/
HDSDR

Seeing how well I did on the ISS and NO-84, it is unfortunate AMSAT limits
the use of the orbiting digipeaters to a single QSO per satellite under its
Field Day rules. I don't disagree with the "one QSO per FM satellite" rule,
but question its application to the orbiting digipeaters. It seems like if
we are wanting to encourage more than just FM satellite operation during
Field Day, working packet would be one way to do that. Especially with that
NO-84 pass where only two of us were around to make QSOs.

That's it for now. Field Day is always fun, even when I worked last year's
Field Day from a balcony at my office, as I had a project to work on during
that weekend. It has been more fun over the past 10 years since I first
worked satellites during a Field Day back in 2006. I know I won't set any
records, but I was able to achieve my goals for this year - more packet
QSOs than the two I made during last year's Field Day, using SDR for at
least some of my Field Day satellite activity, and demonstrating satellite
operating for another ham.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From AJ9N at aol.com  Tue Jun 28 08:59:15 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:59:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-28 09:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <246e78.37a2af06.44a39663@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-28  09:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD 
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be RS?ISS 
The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU 
Contact is a go for Thu 2016-06-30 07:55 UTC  

Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium, Bruchsal, Germany, direct via  DN1JKG
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled  astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ 
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-07-01  08:31:23 UTC 74 deg

Science Museum of Virginia, Richmond, Virginia,  telebridge via VK5ZAI (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ (***)
Contact  is a go for: Wed 2016-07-06 14:28:20 UTC 77 deg  (***)

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**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

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***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-06-28 09:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1064. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1029. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

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The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-06-14 04:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 28 12:17:57 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:17:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK - 2016 Field Day report (l-o-n-g)
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUdJLeJz7HpBcnu2y=c_fmsemFqeU7yLmLJ3gnF9HrZ3zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN6TEUdJLeJz7HpBcnu2y=c_fmsemFqeU7yLmLJ3gnF9HrZ3zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOojMYKMeC1Tb2EpN4kYc20JQJB8_kZfvwSO9viDEoooxg@mail.gmail.com>

"Seeing how well I did on the ISS and NO-84, it is unfortunate AMSAT limits
the use of the orbiting digipeaters to a single QSO per satellite under its
Field Day rules. I don't disagree with the "one QSO per FM satellite" rule,
but question its application to the orbiting digipeaters. It seems like if
we are wanting to encourage more than just FM satellite operation during
Field Day, working packet would be one way to do that. Especially with that
NO-84 pass where only two of us were around to make QSOs."

My research from the AMSAT-BB archives shows that the one QSO per FM
satellite rule was added for 2001 after the chaos that ensued during
Field Day 2000. The rule was also applied to all single channel
satellites, including APRS digipeaters. In recent years, the use of
the ISS digipeater in particular has fallen off a cliff. Reading
through the AMSAT-BB archives I see reports of operators achieving the
AMSAT OSCAR Sexagesimal Award and VUCC solely through the ISS
digipeater. With the level of activity today, that seems unthinkable.
It may be time to suspend that rule for next year and evaluate the
effects.

My biggest rule wish would be for both the ARRL and AMSAT to limit the
ERP allowed on satellites. I listened to one pass of AO-73 out over
the Atlantic early Saturday evening where one station was tuning their
tube amp during the pass (I could hear their tone shift from extremely
harsh to pure). They then proceeded to CQ on CW and phone for the
entirety of the pass, without even a few seconds of a break. I was
never able to hear my downlink on that pass and only heard one
successful QSO.

73,

Paul, N8HM





On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
<amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> This year's Field Day for WD9EWK was back to the mountains, in the Kaibab
> National Forest about 25 miles (40km) west of Flagstaff, Arizona, in grid
> DM45. This is where I had worked Field Day for a few years in a row until
> 2012, and really wanted to get back there after the past two Field Days
> where I operated from the Phoenix area. I also had another ham who was
> trying Field Day for the first time in almost 25 years of being licensed.
> For both of us, our plans were almost vaporized as we were heading to our
> site, and Murphy stuck around for the early part of the afternoon. We ended
> up having a great time, despite the early setbacks.
>
> The ham who accompanied me to the mountains is a long-time ham and coworker
> of mine, Mark N7UJI. He has mostly been on VHF/UHF bands, and until a year
> or two ago didn't even own an HF rig. Since then, Mark has equipped himself
> with some nice gear. Mark still has a Technician license, which limited his
> Field Day activities, but he wanted to try his portable station which was
> similar to what I took north for HF and 6m: Yaesu FT-897D, Buddipole
> portable dipole. Of course, I had other radios with me for the satellites:
> Kenwood TH-D72A, Icom IC-2730A, two FT-817NDs, Wouxun KG-UV9D, and an
> SDRplay
> SDR receiver with a couple of Windows 10 tablets. Our plan was simple - set
> up separate stations, then work whatever we could without going crazy.
>
> On our way to the Field Day site, we received calls from our office. A power
> cut shut everything down at the office, and we had to stop in Flagstaff to
> join a phone call to discuss how to react to the power outage. This ended
> our
> hopes of having time before the 1800 UTC start of Field Day to set up our
> stations, but that didn't stop us. After this and another phone call in the
> next hour, we were able to get to the place I had been talking about for
> Field Day over the past few weeks...
>
> The site I went to was the Garland Prairie Vista Picnic Ground, along the
> old
> US-66 between the cities of Flagstaff and Williams in the Kaibab National
> Forest. The operative word here is "was". All signage for the picnic area
> was
> removed, the picnic tables were gone, no restrooms, not even the concrete
> sidewalk leading to the former site of the restrooms. Other than the gravel
> driveway through the former picnic area, there was nothing left of its
> former
> state. Mark and I had our own folding chairs and tables, so we found some
> trees and set up our stations for HF and 6m under them. We arrived at 1800
> UTC, and Mark set up his HF/6m station as I prepared for a shallow ISS pass
> about 20 minutes later.
>
> The ISS pass was a shallow pass, with maximum elevation of 10 degrees across
> the northern sky. With a hill immediately north of me, I had no luck even
> hearing my own packets being retransmitted by the ISS. No QSOs logged, but
> there were more - and better - ISS passes later in the afternoon.
>
> As Mark and I set up our HF stations, Murphy paid me a visit. The internal
> battery packs in my FT-897D both had problems. After 10 to 15 minutes, one
> of the two packs dropped from its nominal 13.2V down to 9V. Something went
> wrong with that pack, and soon I discovered a similar problem with the other
> pack. I used my jumpstart battery pack that normally powers my satellite
> station for the HF/6m gear. Mark's FT-897D packs did not have problems, but
> the lack of decent propagation on 10m and 6m meant he didn't do much
> operating with his own call. Mark found a club in Prescott, 40 miles (60km)
> south of us in Prescott, on 10m SSB for his first HF QSO in the almost 25
> years he has had his ham license. I also worked Mark on 10m and 6m SSB, to
> give him a couple of other QSOs for his log - and mine. We could have made
> QSOs on 2m, 222 MHz, and 70cm, but didn't do that. Mark was happy to play
> around with his radio, and watch me work stations. Mark would pay closer
> attention to what I was doing, anytime I went to work satellites.
>
> Not knowing if AO-7 would survive the expected onslaught of high power from
> so many stations during Field Day, I looked to a western FO-29 pass around
> 2135 UTC for my first Field Day satellite QSO. This was also a shallow pass,
> with a maximum elevation of 8 degrees. I could hear myself through the
> satellite using my two FT-817NDs and Elk, but made no QSOs. Again, with
> Mark
> watching me, I was unsuccessful on a satellite pass. I explained the use of
> the two radios for full-duplex operation, how I tracked the satellite using
> an app on my mobile phone, and how I twisted the antenna so its polarity
> was
> in line with the FO-29 downlink.
>
> After the FO-29 pass, there was an SO-50 pass coming up from the south,
> going
> to the northeast. This was another shallow pass, up to a maximum elevation
> of
> 13 degrees. With my IC-2730A 2m/70cm FM mobile radio and Elk, and the power
> output set to LOW (5W), I tried to get through. I may have heard myself
> once,
> but heard a lot of other stations on that pass. With the next satellite
> pass
> over an hour away, I started to make a few HF QSOs, and saw a bunch of
> passes
> on various satellites that should be better for me and my QRP station
> later.
> An ISS pass at 2312 UTC was the turning point, where Murphy went away...
>
> The 2312 UTC ISS pass, with a maximum elevation of 37 degrees, was a good
> pass for me. With the pass going clockwise from the northwest to southeast,
> it would cover most of the continental USA and Canada. With my TH-D72A and
> Elk, I started watching the HT's screen for stations I could call and make
> QSOs with. I changed my APRS position beacon to show "CQ FD" followed by
> my Field Day station classification, state, and grid locator. That worked
> well, as VE5AA in Saskatchewan sent me an APRS message with their Field
> Day exchange. I was able to complete the exchange with VE5AA, and this was
> my first Field Day satellite QSO for 2016. I tried for other QSOs, and was
> successful making exchanges via APRS messages with two other stations -
> KK6QMS in southern California, followed by K7RDG in southern Arizona.
> K7RDG, the Cochise Amateur Radio Association club station, was operated by
> Fernando NP4JV on the ISS pass. Fernando tweeted later in the day that the
> K7RDG-WD9EWK ISS packet QSO got K7RDG its first Field Day satellite QSO. I
> also saw another Arizona club station on that pass, WK7B, but was not able
> to get that station in the log. Not yet, at least...
>
> About 10 minutes after the ISS went by, there was an SO-50 pass that
> favored the west coast. Back to the IC-2730A and Elk I went, the radio set
> at 5W, and this time a successful satellite QSO using the microphone
> instead of just using packet. I made a quick QSO early in the pass with
> W6KA in southern California, the Pasadena Radio Club's station, operated
> by Tom WA0POD. I heard myself through SO-50 at other points later in the
> pass, but I logged no other QSOs.
>
> I went back to HF, made a couple of 20m SSB QSOs, and decided to focus on
> just satellite passes over the next hour or so before Mark and I packed up
> for the day. At 0035 UTC, NO-84 passed by from the northwest to the south,
> up to a maximum elevation of 56 degrees. I started sending my position
> beacon, basically calling CQ on the pass. Exactly one other station showed
> up on this pass - WK7B. WK7B was the Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club's Field
> Day station, located northeast of Flagstaff and 26 miles (almost 42km) east
> of me. The Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club is a Phoenix-area club, and they -
> like me - prefer to do Field Day in the mountains of northern Arizona. :-)
> Rick K7TEJ was at the keyboard for the packet activity from WK7B. Rick and
> I, along with Fernando NP4JV, had been practicing how to make quick packet
> QSOs on ISS and NO-84 passes over the previous week or so, and it paid off.
> Even with the weaker downlink from NO-84 compared to the ISS, it was easy
> for us to complete the Field Day exchange. Unfortunately for both Rick and
> me, nobody else showed up on the pass.
>
> A few minutes after NO-84 went away, there was one more ISS pass for me to
> try at 0049 UTC. I worked two stations on that pass - KG6BFD in southern
> California, and Jack KC7MG in central Arizona - but neither of these
> stations
> sent me a Field Day exchange. I had sent my "1B AZ" Field Day exchange plus
> my grid locator DM45. I saw a few other stations from California and Nevada
> on the pass, but wasn't able to make any other QSOs. This was the last of
> my Field Day packet QSOs, and two more passes were coming up in the
> 0100-0200
> UTC hour.
>
> A few minutes after 0100 UTC came a very high LilacSat-2 pass. I saw that
> the
> satellite had been active on earlier passes, so I took a chance and set up
> for
> it. I was not disappointed. For this pass, instead of using the IC-2730A I
> used on the earlier SO-50 passes, I went with my Wouxun KG-UV9D and the Elk.
> This meant I was only working half-duplex, but the joke between Mark and me
> was "Chinese radio, for a Chinese satellite". LilacSat-2 rose to a maximum
> elevation of 63 degrees, and I almost thought this was something other than
> Field Day.
>
> As the satellite rose from the south, I quickly made a contact with Glenn
> AA5PK in west Texas. I had seen Glenn on one of the earlier ISS passes, but
> missed getting a QSO with him then. This was the LilacSat-2 QSO that will go
> toward my Field Day score, but it wasn't my last contact. I worked 5 other
> stations, most of whom were operated by hams I know - W6KA operated by Tom
> WA0POD, Fernando NP4JV in Tucson after leaving the K7RDG Field Day station,
> Jack KC7MG in central Arizona (again, no Field Day exchange with KC7MG, but
> still nice to make the QSO), and Frank K6FW in California.
>
> The LilacSat-2 pass, being a very orderly pass, allowed me to explain to my
> audience - OK, it was an audience of one, Mark N7UJI - some things about
> satellite operating. For example, how I was working LilacSat-2 half-duplex,
> compared to using full-duplex on the FO-29 and SO-50 passes earlier. I made
> QSOs, but explained how working full-duplex meant I didn't have to rely on
> anyone else to answer me before knowing that my signals were making it
> through the satellite. I also demonstrated how antenna polarity matters for
> satellite operating, simply by twisting my Elk antenna to make the downlink
> signal sound weaker, before twisting it so the signal sounded better again.
>
> Along with answering Mark's questions about satellite operating, Mark was
> paying attention to the QSOs I made. He heard how most were calling me by
> name, and I knew their names. Mark asked me "Do you know all these people?"
> A little later, another question: "Why don't you save yourself some time
> and ask, 'Is there anyone I don't know on?'" I had to laugh at this one,
> knowing that this was a small part of the wider community of amateur radio
> operators, and many of us who work satellites do know each other and cross
> paths at different events.
>
> By this point in the late afternoon/early evening, around 0130 UTC (6.30pm
> local time), sunlight was starting to go away. Clouds, along with the trees
> around the picnic area, meant it would be dark here before sunset. I wanted
> to show Mark one more satellite pass, and have a shot at additional QSOs to
> wrap up my 2016 Field Day. XW-2F was coming by to the west, up to a maximum
> elevation of 32 degrees. A nice pass. I used an FT-817ND as my transmit
> radio, and the receive side of my station was an SDRplay SDR receiver with
> HDSDR running on an 8-inch Windows 10 tablet. Both were connected through
> a diplexer to my Elk log periodic. I plugged in a speaker, so Mark could
> hear what I heard from the SDRplay and tablet. I explained how the SDR
> receiver worked compared to a "normal" radio, where I could receive more
> than a single frequency, and in this case see the entire transponder
> downlink on the tablet's screen. Many of you here have read about my SDR
> exploits on this list and in other forums, and Mark liked what he saw. As
> with the earlier FO-29 and SO-50 passes, I worked XW-2F full-duplex.
>
> Once the satellite came up from the south, I made a quick QSO with Frank
> K6FW in California. After this QSO, it seemed like the center of the XW-2F
> transponder sounded like FO-29 on many passes - a few stations were
> competing for the center of the transponder. I tried to make a couple of
> other QSOs, but with so many stations in the small transponder, and at one
> point having to deal with someone sending CW over my SSB signals, I made
> no other QSOs. After the unsuccessful passes earlier in the day, I was
> finally able to show Mark some examples of amateur satellite operating -
> different modes (SSB, FM, packet), different radios or combinations of
> radios, and a fair amount of "what to do" and "what not to do" for
> satellite operating.
>
> After XW-2F went away, Mark and I packed up our stations, and drove to
> Flagstaff for dinner. After that, the 2-hour drive home. Even with only 3
> QSOs in his log, Mark had fun. I had as much fun talking radio and being
> able to successfully demonstrate satellite operating for Mark, along with
> making some QSOs for my own log.
>
> I have updated my log, and uploaded all of my Field Day QSOs to Logbook of
> the World, but haven't started to put together my entries for Field Day. I
> logged a total of 21 Field Day satellite QSOs, and 3 other QSOs that only
> involved exchanges of grid locators. All done with only 5W transmit power,
> to stay within the Field Day QRP power class. By satellite...
>
> ISS:        three Field Day packet QSOs on 2312 UTC pass, two non-Field Day
>             packet QSOs on 0048 UTC pass. Station: TH-D72A/Elk
>
> NO-84:      one Field Day packet QSO on 0035 UTC pass. Station: TH-D72A/Elk
>
> SO-50:      one Field Day FM QSO on 2334 UTC pass. Station: IC-2730A/Elk
>
> LilacSat-2: one Field Day FM QSO on 0111 UTC pass, 4 other non-scoring Field
>             Day QSOs and one non-Field Day FM QSO. Station: KG-UV9D/Elk
>
> XW-2F:      one Field Day QSO on 0134 UTC pass. Station: FT-817ND/SDRplay/
> HDSDR
>
> Seeing how well I did on the ISS and NO-84, it is unfortunate AMSAT limits
> the use of the orbiting digipeaters to a single QSO per satellite under its
> Field Day rules. I don't disagree with the "one QSO per FM satellite" rule,
> but question its application to the orbiting digipeaters. It seems like if
> we are wanting to encourage more than just FM satellite operation during
> Field Day, working packet would be one way to do that. Especially with that
> NO-84 pass where only two of us were around to make QSOs.
>
> That's it for now. Field Day is always fun, even when I worked last year's
> Field Day from a balcony at my office, as I had a project to work on during
> that weekend. It has been more fun over the past 10 years since I first
> worked satellites during a Field Day back in 2006. I know I won't set any
> records, but I was able to achieve my goals for this year - more packet
> QSOs than the two I made during last year's Field Day, using SDR for at
> least some of my Field Day satellite activity, and demonstrating satellite
> operating for another ham.
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jun 28 13:13:23 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:13:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nayif-1 linear transponder CubeSat article and video
References: <1999358504.4645487.1467119603601.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1999358504.4645487.1467119603601.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Nayif-1 article appeared in UAE The National and a video of the insertion of the CubeSat into the QuadPack deployer has been released. Nayif-1 carries 435/145 MHz FUNcube-5 linear transponder 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/28/uae-satellite-will-have-amateur-radio-transponder/

UK radio amateurs help students reach for the sky
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/28/radio-amateurs-help-students/

2016 edition of Getting Started with Amateur Satellites available from AMSAT-UK shop
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/27/getting-started-with-amateur-satellites-2016/

Phase-4A Geostationary Transponders leaflet and video of ground-based LEILA 2 Transponder
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/24/phase-4a-geostationary-transponders/

Don't miss out on this year's AMSAT-UK Colloquium which takes place July 29-31 at the Holiday Inn, Guildford and is open to all
https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/


73 Trevor M5AKA
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From kk5do at amsat.org  Tue Jun 28 13:48:26 2016
From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:48:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <4533ae70cbe5e3dea8da6ec71d3f57c8@etczone.com>
References: <4533ae70cbe5e3dea8da6ec71d3f57c8@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <5f7f25c9-26c3-a04b-381a-09b38e77b074@amsat.org>

here is a link to UO-11 from the past. yes, the rules do allow for the 
use of this type of satellite should one ever be launched again with 
this type of capability. it is basically like sending and receiving an 
email. you send a message up, satellite orbits and somewhere others 
download the message. then they might send a message up and others 
download that one. the point was for field day for you to send a message 
up and get points. then when you download other peoples messages, you 
get points. not to send yours and receive your own for double points.

http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/satellite/amateur-radio-satellites/uo-11/

73...bruce

On 6/27/2016 8:40 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> Confession of ignorance:
>
> On the pdf Field Day Summary sheet, there is a space for voice QSOs (OK
> on those), CW/RTTY/PSK31 (OK on those), and for Up/Downloads (e.g. on
> UO-11(?)).
>
> What is meant by Up/Download with respect to Field Day and/or satellites
> in general? I couldn't find UO-11 listed as either a communications
> satellite or a telemetry satellite on the AMSAT website list of
> satellites. I figured if I found a link for the satellite it would
> answer my question.
>
> A point to a helpful link will be a sufficient answer, but a written
> introduction to the topic on this BB would be wonderful.
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> (And I did not try to do any half-semi-anti-duplex up/downloads, so back
> off on that.)
> _______________________________________________
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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 14:01:52 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 09:01:52 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lake Meredith NPOTA on SO-50 today
Message-ID: <CAPovOweZnsxtKtr8LYo9efZoksUJ6M1Sq1vLf_iWwJuPGoBipg@mail.gmail.com>

I will activate Lake Meredith (RC14) for ARRL National Parks on the
Air today via satellite SO-50 at 21:30-21:43 UTC (28-June.)

73
Clayton
W5PFG/p
DM95

From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Jun 28 14:39:12 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:39:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <5f7f25c9-26c3-a04b-381a-09b38e77b074@amsat.org>
References: <4533ae70cbe5e3dea8da6ec71d3f57c8@etczone.com>
	<5f7f25c9-26c3-a04b-381a-09b38e77b074@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <64cd22ffaddbaaa8bca2a50de28da343@etczone.com>

Good info. Thank you, Bruce. 

On 2016-06-28 09:48, Bruce wrote:

> here is a link to UO-11 from the past. yes, the rules do allow for the use of this type of satellite should one ever be launched again with this type of capability. it is basically like sending and receiving an email. you send a message up, satellite orbits and somewhere others download the message. then they might send a message up and others download that one. the point was for field day for you to send a message up and get points. then when you download other peoples messages, you get points. not to send yours and receive your own for double points.
> 
> http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/satellite/amateur-radio-satellites/uo-11/
> 
> 73...bruce
> 
> On 6/27/2016 8:40 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: 
> 
>> Confession of ignorance:
>> 
>> On the pdf Field Day Summary sheet, there is a space for voice QSOs (OK
>> on those), CW/RTTY/PSK31 (OK on those), and for Up/Downloads (e.g. on
>> UO-11(?)).
>> 
>> What is meant by Up/Download with respect to Field Day and/or satellites
>> in general? I couldn't find UO-11 listed as either a communications
>> satellite or a telemetry satellite on the AMSAT website list of
>> satellites. I figured if I found a link for the satellite it would
>> answer my question.
>> 
>> A point to a helpful link will be a sufficient answer, but a written
>> introduction to the topic on this BB would be wonderful.
>> 
>> Steve AI9IN
>> 
>> (And I did not try to do any half-semi-anti-duplex up/downloads, so back
>> off on that.)
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> -- 
> 
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016
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From jerryconn at aol.com  Tue Jun 28 14:42:12 2016
From: jerryconn at aol.com (Jerry Conner)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:42:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE:  Southern CA Satellite Presentations]
In-Reply-To: <20160628070931.3075e907efffce76f7fdc394e2ade5c7.4d1f56d29f.wbe@email01.godaddy.com>
References: <20160628070931.3075e907efffce76f7fdc394e2ade5c7.4d1f56d29f.wbe@email01.godaddy.com>
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Then what I am hearing, "AS A NEWBIE" is that I am not welcome on the Sats because I do not have the financial resources to invest in all the equipment needed to run full duplex.  It is more than two cheap Chinese radios, it also involves an antenna, which at the very least it is almost double the cost of the two Chinese radios.

Money that some of us have a hard time pulling together.

I have a hard time with all the purest, my way or the highway mentality I am hearing.

 

Just my 2 cents 

Jerry W4JWC 

 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
From: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net <mailto:Mat_62 at charter.net> >
Date: Mon, June 27, 2016 9:04 pm
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org> 

I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of your 
live presentations. It is printed in black and white in your handout. 
You just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began 
giving out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty 
of spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You 
are leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If 
one does not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from 
the bird so as to insure they are "making it there" then they should not 
be on the satellites. End of story.
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.
> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups,
> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds
> is all over the place:
>
> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can
> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>
> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.
>
> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-
> duplex is preferable.
>
> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard
> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>
> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds,
> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> (909) 999-SATS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From pedro at dutrasousa.name  Tue Jun 28 14:53:59 2016
From: pedro at dutrasousa.name (pedro at dutrasousa.name)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:53:59 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] HM59/69 operation
Message-ID: <20160628145359.Horde.MFpclzvC5nJtEOQpX_dQQ2s@webmail.dutrasousa.name>

Hi,

As previously announced I'll be in HM59/69 grid line operating FM  
satellites from June 29th to July 1st.
Predicted passes are from evening June 29th (not morning as  
announced), June 30th all day and July 1st morning.

You may follow me on Twitter for updates and last minute changes.

73 Pedro CU2ZG





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From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Tue Jun 28 15:03:11 2016
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:03:11 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
Message-ID: <6587175.1467126192158.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


The financial argument is a weak one at best. A WA5VJB Cheap yagi is about 10 dollars of materials (you can skip the diplexer with two radios), and I have recently seen and purchased older full sized 2m HTs and UHF analog only scanners for as cheap as 5 dollars at hamfests. Add a $30 Baofeng and you have a satellite setup for next to nothing.

Don't want to build or can't? The price difference between an Arrow antenna with a diplexer, and one without is about $60, or the cost of TWO cheap HTs. Use the extra $30 to buy some good cables.

I certainly don't mind if those getting started try half-duplex at first, and it has it's place in some situations. I even wrote an article 10 years ago about half duplex ops with the FT-817 on FO-29, which I plan to update soon, but the linear sats are different animals, with different challenges.

Once you try full duplex and realize the benefits of being able to hear if you are causing or being QRM, and being able to twist the antenna during transmit to get a better uplink signal, you won't want to go back to the old way.

73, Drew KO4MA






-----Original Message-----
>From: Jerry Conner via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: Jun 28, 2016 10:42 AM
>To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
>Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE:  Southern CA Satellite Presentations]
>
> 
>
>Then what I am hearing, "AS A NEWBIE" is that I am not welcome on the Sats because I do not have the financial resources to invest in all the equipment needed to run full duplex.  It is more than two cheap Chinese radios, it also involves an antenna, which at the very least it is almost double the cost of the two Chinese radios.
>
>Money that some of us have a hard time pulling together.
>
>I have a hard time with all the purest, my way or the highway mentality I am hearing.
>
> 
>
>Just my 2 cents 
>
>Jerry W4JWC 
>
> 
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
>From: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net <mailto:Mat_62 at charter.net> >
>Date: Mon, June 27, 2016 9:04 pm
>To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
>
>I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of your 
>live presentations. It is printed in black and white in your handout. 
>You just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began 
>giving out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty 
>of spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You 
>are leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If 
>one does not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from 
>the bird so as to insure they are "making it there" then they should not 
>be on the satellites. End of story.
>Michael, W4HIJ
>On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.
>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the sentence to groups,
>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds
>> is all over the place:
>>
>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we can
>> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
>> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>>
>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.
>>
>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why working full-
>> duplex is preferable.
>>
>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was aboard
>> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>>
>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy birds,
>> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>>
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> (909) 999-SATS
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>_______________________________________________
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From plaws0 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 15:04:33 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:04:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE: Southern CA Satellite Presentations]
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On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Jerry Conner via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> Then what I am hearing, "AS A NEWBIE" is that I am not welcome on the Sats because I do not have the financial resources to invest in all the equipment needed to run full duplex.  It is more than two cheap Chinese radios, it also involves an antenna, which at the very least it is almost double the cost of the two Chinese radios.


I think I paid $150-something for my Arrow II with the diplexer
(because I only use one radio) so yeah about the price of two cheap
Chinese HTs.

There is nothing stopping anyone from building an entirely adequate
antenna themselves.  See, for example,
http://www.wa5vjb.com/references.html .

SO-50, with the FM uplink on 2 m, I don't see much need for full
duplex and, in fact, I've had good contacts on a single radio.  I can
see where AO-85, with the FM uplink on 70 cm having a bigger Doppler
swing, that it would be very helpful to have an ear on the downlink.
For data, since most digis seem to be on 2m up and down, I don't see
the big deal.

On the sats with a linear transponder, it's a different matter since
you need to find where you are unless you are using a computer to
correct your at-sat frequency.

All that said, if you want this to be a cheap hobby, you're really
going to have to work at it.


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From jerryconn at aol.com  Tue Jun 28 15:32:30 2016
From: jerryconn at aol.com (Jerry Conner)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:32:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
In-Reply-To: <6587175.1467126192158.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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That is what I have done, built a cheap antenna.  I have a Chinese radio and I have made contacts on SO-50, half duplex.  I DO NOT get on the linear birds because primary I do not have the means to run 2M/70CM SSB. I can also understand that it would near impossible to effectively make a contact But newbies can/should be given guidance in the form of Elmers. Not being told they are not welcome if they don't have the equipment others have.  By the way check the prices an arrow antenna that will give someone the best chance to get into AO-85 with a Cheap Chinese radio is about $150.00.
I love VHF/UHF but I can't do much more than be a spectator at this point due to the equipment required.  I will get there eventually.

I am just trying to point out that not everyone has the ability and may never have the ability work the satellites with the gear that others have.  I would love to have a way to do so but for now it is not in the cards in my household.  I am OK with that. 

So when the arrows start flying try not to hit the people that you should be trying to bring in the fold to help, in any way they can, put more satellites in orbit for us all to enjoy.  Just my viewpoint from down here.
73
Jerry W4JWC

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Glasbrenner [mailto:glasbrenner at mindspring.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:03 AM
To: Jerry Conner <jerryconn at aol.com>; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: Re: Financial arguments about full duplex


The financial argument is a weak one at best. A WA5VJB Cheap yagi is about 10 dollars of materials (you can skip the diplexer with two radios), and I have recently seen and purchased older full sized 2m HTs and UHF analog only scanners for as cheap as 5 dollars at hamfests. Add a $30 Baofeng and you have a satellite setup for next to nothing.

Don't want to build or can't? The price difference between an Arrow antenna with a diplexer, and one without is about $60, or the cost of TWO cheap HTs. Use the extra $30 to buy some good cables.

I certainly don't mind if those getting started try half-duplex at first, and it has it's place in some situations. I even wrote an article 10 years ago about half duplex ops with the FT-817 on FO-29, which I plan to update soon, but the linear sats are different animals, with different challenges.

Once you try full duplex and realize the benefits of being able to hear if you are causing or being QRM, and being able to twist the antenna during transmit to get a better uplink signal, you won't want to go back to the old way.

73, Drew KO4MA






-----Original Message-----
>From: Jerry Conner via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: Jun 28, 2016 10:42 AM
>To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
>Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE:  Southern CA Satellite Presentations]
>
> 
>
>Then what I am hearing, "AS A NEWBIE" is that I am not welcome on the Sats because I do not have the financial resources to invest in all the equipment needed to run full duplex.  It is more than two cheap Chinese radios, it also involves an antenna, which at the very least it is almost double the cost of the two Chinese radios.
>
>Money that some of us have a hard time pulling together.
>
>I have a hard time with all the purest, my way or the highway mentality I am hearing.
>
> 
>
>Just my 2 cents
>
>Jerry W4JWC
>
> 
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
>From: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net <mailto:Mat_62 at charter.net> >
>Date: Mon, June 27, 2016 9:04 pm
>To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>
>I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of 
>your live presentations. It is printed in black and white in your handout.
>You just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began 
>giving out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty 
>of spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You 
>are leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If 
>one does not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from 
>the bird so as to insure they are "making it there" then they should 
>not be on the satellites. End of story.
>Michael, W4HIJ
>On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.
>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered 
>> the sentence to groups, "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - 
>> PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds is all over the place:
>>
>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, 
>> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are 
>> transmitting. Although this method is preferred, it is not mandatory: 
>> Carefully monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>>
>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those instructions.
>>
>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons 
>> why working full- duplex is preferable.
>>
>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who 
>> was aboard the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>>
>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working 
>> the easy birds, I am available. Just send me an email message.
>>
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> (909) 999-SATS
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA 
>> makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide 
>> without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>_______________________________________________
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>makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide 
>without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From jim at k6ccc.org  Tue Jun 28 15:33:50 2016
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:33:50 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE:  Southern CA Satellite Presentations]
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Jerry Conner said (in part):
 > I have a hard time with all the purest, my way or the highway mentality 
I am hearing.
  
  
 It's not that it's a elitist mentality, it's simply a technical 
requirement for successful operation.  Even on a FM satellite, operating 
without full duplex would be about like trying to use your local 2M 
repeater with a transmitter and no receiver turned on until AFTER you 
called someone.  You have no way of knowing if someone else is talking.  
Since on most FM satellites, the idle time between conversations is 
measured in milliseconds, your chances of successfully hitting an idle spot 
without knowing if your are getting through is quite slim.  On SSB or CW on 
a linear satellite, without full duplex, you will forever be chasing trying 
to figure out where your downlink is.  Even with complete computer control 
of dopler shift, you will still be chasing the other guy.
  
 On an FM satellite, the situation goes something like this.  A contact 
ends, and for example three people key up to make a call at essentially the 
same time.  Depending on signal levels, maybe one person has a strong 
enough signal to capture everyone else, but more likely there is a massive 
hetrodyne between several signals.  With  everyone operating full duplex, 
we all hear that either someone else is capturing the uplink or the 
hetrodyne and drop carrier.  If you're not using full duplex, you blindly 
keep transmitting and creating interference for the rest of the users.
  
 The exception to all this is that if you are operating in a location that 
has almost no one to talk to (Hawaii comes to mind) since you are almost 
the only one around, you might get away without full duplex most of the 
time.  A decade or so ago, every night there was a SE to NW pass that was 
well off the southern California coastline - such that the footprint only 
covered 50 - 100 miles along the coast.  There were a small enough number 
of us in the footprint that we could actually hold several minute 
conversations with one or two other people.  Non full duplex would likely 
have worked in that case.  However for the previous pass that covered most 
of the US, I would not have even considered it.
  
 BTW, note that in my first sentence, I said "it's simply a technical 
requirement for successful operation."  The key word there was successful.  
Without full duplex you will occasionally make a contact (especially as 
mentioned earlier if you are almost the only person in the footprint), but 
if you want to routinely be successful on busy passes, there is no 
alternative to being full duplex.  Period.
  
  
 Jim Walls - K6CCC
  


From plaws0 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 15:54:34 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:54:34 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
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On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Jerry Conner via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> That is what I have done, built a cheap antenna.  I have a Chinese radio and I have made contacts on SO-50, half duplex.


Can't possibly be true because full duplex is a TECHNICAL REQUIREMENT
FOR SUCCESSFUL OPERATION.  If you don't meet the requirements, you
can't possibly be successful.

You are not alone: my own non-full duplex contacts were also not
successful because of my failure to use a second receiver.  I've
petitioned ARRL to remove my QSLs from LOTW and have disassembled and
buried my diplexer-equipped antenna because of this.

The shame of it all.


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Tue Jun 28 15:56:11 2016
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:56:11 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
Message-ID: <25950095.1467129371777.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>





>That is what I have done, built a cheap antenna.  I have a Chinese radio and I have made contacts on SO-50, half duplex.  I DO NOT get on the linear birds because >primary I do not have the means to run 2M/70CM SSB. I can also understand that it would near impossible to effectively make a contact But newbies can/should be >given guidance in the form of Elmers. Not being told they are not welcome if they don't have the equipment others have.

The discussion centers on the importance of best practices being taught and demonstrated by those elmers you mention. Elmers walk with you, guiding, correcting, encouraging along the way. The need to have practical knowledge, and all too often we see people who don't operate, or just started themselves, passing out poor or erroneous information. If the shields can be dropped for long enough, there are lots of elmers right here on this list to help the newbies out. Elmers should continue to learn as well.

> By the way check the prices an arrow >antenna that will give someone the best chance to get into AO-85 with a Cheap Chinese radio is about $150.00.

Elmer moment right here: The arrow without the diplexer is $60 cheaper than the one with the diplexer (http://store.amsat.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=1). Use that $60 for a 2nd receiver and now you can hear if you are getting into AO-85 or SO-50, adjust for Doppler on AO-85, and make more contacts, and cause less QRM. You'll need a set of headphones as well, about $5 at Big Lots or Walmart. Better experience for you, better for everyone else, less money.

Or, build the functionally same antenna for $10 and a few hours time, and save some more bucks. I love my Arrow(s), but a WA5VJB or IOio antenna works just as well. Links to plans can be found here: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144

73, Drew KO4MA





From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Jun 28 16:03:38 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:03:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex (ez-peezy)
Message-ID: <bdd9875487cda383f448e2af579c5863@mail.gmail.com>

You can make a UHF Satellite Receive Antenna for about a dollar.
You take a 18" by 3' rectangle of garden fence, bend it into a linear
parabola, mount a $35 UHF HT at the focal point and make a handle for it.
Done.

See the June 2004 QST cover photo of it in use by students:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.qrz.com/h/kb9sxh/cover_shot_QST_bmp.jpg

No coax, no feeds, no nothing.  Just the HT, 6" from the back of the
parabola.  And it is lighter than an arrow (also shown in that photo)

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
Glasbrenner
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:03 AM
To: Jerry Conner; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex


The financial argument is a weak one at best. A WA5VJB Cheap yagi is about
10 dollars of materials (you can skip the diplexer with two radios), and I
have recently seen and purchased older full sized 2m HTs and UHF analog
only scanners for as cheap as 5 dollars at hamfests. Add a $30 Baofeng and
you have a satellite setup for next to nothing.

Don't want to build or can't? The price difference between an Arrow
antenna with a diplexer, and one without is about $60, or the cost of TWO
cheap HTs. Use the extra $30 to buy some good cables.

I certainly don't mind if those getting started try half-duplex at first,
and it has it's place in some situations. I even wrote an article 10 years
ago about half duplex ops with the FT-817 on FO-29, which I plan to update
soon, but the linear sats are different animals, with different
challenges.

Once you try full duplex and realize the benefits of being able to hear if
you are causing or being QRM, and being able to twist the antenna during
transmit to get a better uplink signal, you won't want to go back to the
old way.

73, Drew KO4MA






-----Original Message-----
>From: Jerry Conner via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>Sent: Jun 28, 2016 10:42 AM
>To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
>Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE:  Southern CA Satellite Presentations]
>
>
>
>Then what I am hearing, "AS A NEWBIE" is that I am not welcome on the
Sats because I do not have the financial resources to invest in all the
equipment needed to run full duplex.  It is more than two cheap Chinese
radios, it also involves an antenna, which at the very least it is almost
double the cost of the two Chinese radios.
>
>Money that some of us have a hard time pulling together.
>
>I have a hard time with all the purest, my way or the highway mentality I
am hearing.
>
>
>
>Just my 2 cents
>
>Jerry W4JWC
>
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
>From: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net <mailto:Mat_62 at charter.net> >
>Date: Mon, June 27, 2016 9:04 pm
>To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>
>I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of
>your live presentations. It is printed in black and white in your
handout.
>You just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began
>giving out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty
>of spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You
>are leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If
>one does not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from
>the bird so as to insure they are "making it there" then they should
>not be on the satellites. End of story.
>Michael, W4HIJ
>On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory"
for working sats.
>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered
>> the sentence to groups, "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. -
>> PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds is all over the
place:
>>
>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode,
>> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are
>> transmitting. Although this method is preferred, it is not mandatory:
>> Carefully monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the
conversations to announce yourself."
>>
>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
instructions.
>>
>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons
>> why working full- duplex is preferable.
>>
>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who
>> was aboard the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>>
>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working
>> the easy birds, I am available. Just send me an email message.
>>
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> (909) 999-SATS
>> _______________________________________________
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue Jun 28 16:35:08 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:35:08 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
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Hi Jerry!

I had written about using certain Chinese-made dual-band HTs to
work AO-85 full-duplex a few months ago on this list, and an
article based on those posts appeared in a recent AMSAT Journal.
But that is not the only way, or even the cheapest way, to get on
AO-85 (or other U/V FM satellites) full-duplex. I, like many others
reading this list, have worked stations using two Baofeng HTs and
a homebrew 2m/70cm Yagi like the WA5VJB design. Two Baofengs
should be in the $60 to $70 range, and a homebrew Yagi a few
dollars more in parts. Basically, for less than $100, a ham can
have a station capable of full-duplex operation for FM satellites.
If someone already has an HT, then the costs for a second radio
and parts for a 2m/70cm homebrew Yagi become more like $40 or $50.

As I mentioned in other recent posts on here, I worked an FM satellite
pass during Field Day half-duplex, on LilacSat-2 (like SO-50,
using a 2m uplink and 70cm downlink). It can be done, but many of us
hear the complaints from those who have tried the half-duplex
approach unsuccessfully. If anything, the advice about working
FM satellite full-duplex is an attempt to set expectations for success
on these satellites. Yes, half-duplex can work, but full-duplex
works better.

As for the linear transponders, that will take different equipment
where there really isn't the same inexpensive option as we have with
the Chinese-made HTs for FM satellites. There are options to hold
down the costs for equipping your station to work these satellites.
Using a pair of all-mode HF/VHF/UHF transceivers, or one of those
transceivers with a software-defined receiver, are a couple of
examples of this. But it can be done.

Good luck, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK






On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Jerry Conner via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> That is what I have done, built a cheap antenna.  I have a Chinese radio
> and I have made contacts on SO-50, half duplex.  I DO NOT get on the linear
> birds because primary I do not have the means to run 2M/70CM SSB. I can
> also understand that it would near impossible to effectively make a contact
> But newbies can/should be given guidance in the form of Elmers. Not being
> told they are not welcome if they don't have the equipment others have.  By
> the way check the prices an arrow antenna that will give someone the best
> chance to get into AO-85 with a Cheap Chinese radio is about $150.00.
> I love VHF/UHF but I can't do much more than be a spectator at this point
> due to the equipment required.  I will get there eventually.
>
> I am just trying to point out that not everyone has the ability and may
> never have the ability work the satellites with the gear that others have.
> I would love to have a way to do so but for now it is not in the cards in
> my household.  I am OK with that.
>
> So when the arrows start flying try not to hit the people that you should
> be trying to bring in the fold to help, in any way they can, put more
> satellites in orbit for us all to enjoy.  Just my viewpoint from down here.
> 73
> Jerry W4JWC
>
>

From jim at k6ccc.org  Tue Jun 28 16:48:00 2016
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 09:48:00 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE:  Southern CA Satellite Presentations]
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First, I said (in part):  

>> "If you're not using full duplex, you blindly
>> keep transmitting and creating interference for the rest of the users."  


   

Then skriostof at ... said (in part):  

> Not OK. If you're not using full duplex, you LISTEN to see if someone   

> answers your call. It is possible to successfully operate without 
full-duplex. 
  
 Not quite.  Repeating my situation of three people making a call after the 
previous conversation ends.
  
 You are operating full duplex:
 You start transmitting, and hear a hetrodyne, and stop transmitting within 
a second.  Another person successfully makes a call because the hetrodyne 
ends.
  
 You are not operating fulll duplex:
 You start transmitting and speak the callsign of the person you are 
calling followed by your own callsign before you unkey.  No one is heard 
because of the hetrodyne.
  
 Jim Walls
 K6CCC
  


From dave at druidnetworks.com  Tue Jun 28 17:38:50 2016
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:38:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex (ez-peezy)
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I just want to throw this out, not as a "You Can" but as a "I did" as those
are two completely separate distinctions in an argument.

I made my first few hundred contacts using this to receive SO-50:

https://goo.gl/photos/K2YrjzCVXF1MTPV46

And This to Transmit on:

https://goo.gl/photos/pyFHt7CfNpnjzLPS7

I used a FT-1900 that a local ham club DONATED to me to transmit:

https://goo.gl/photos/pyFHt7CfNpnjzLPS7

And a Baofeng to receive:

https://goo.gl/photos/3rDVBdbjjzt8cGfq9

I did this not out of financial concerns - I could have easily afforded a
bigger more potent station - but I just wanted to see what I could do (and
my wife was not super keen on me spending thousands of dollars on a hobby I
wasn't sure I was going to embrace yet). The connectors were hamfest so-239
adapters I picked up for 99 cents each, the coax was donated by local old
men who had small chunks laying around.. the wood for the booms was
leftover trim board I had from construction projects, and brass welding rod
was measured in dollars per pound at the local tractor supply. I was
literally on the birds those first 6 months or so with less than $50
invested in gear... and during that time I got VUCC, handed out something
like 25 grids while /P, and got hooked on something that has turned into so
much more than just a hobby for me.

I know we're all prone to hyperbole and reductio ad absurdum when
internetting, but c'mon folks..  I really have to laugh at the "oh woes to
me, 50 bucks is just too much" when I've seen what dudes in countries less
wealthy than mine can do with their Satellite stations made out of fence
posts and old televisions. The only line I see to operating on Satellites
is 1. Do you have/can build a radio? and 2. Are you a jerk? If the answers
are Yes and No, then you're welcome on the birds.

-Dave, KG5CCI

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> You can make a UHF Satellite Receive Antenna for about a dollar.
> You take a 18" by 3' rectangle of garden fence, bend it into a linear
> parabola, mount a $35 UHF HT at the focal point and make a handle for it.
> Done.
>
> See the June 2004 QST cover photo of it in use by students:
> https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.qrz.com/h/kb9sxh/cover_shot_QST_bmp.jpg
>
> No coax, no feeds, no nothing.  Just the HT, 6" from the back of the
> parabola.  And it is lighter than an arrow (also shown in that photo)
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Glasbrenner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:03 AM
> To: Jerry Conner; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
>
>
> The financial argument is a weak one at best. A WA5VJB Cheap yagi is about
> 10 dollars of materials (you can skip the diplexer with two radios), and I
> have recently seen and purchased older full sized 2m HTs and UHF analog
> only scanners for as cheap as 5 dollars at hamfests. Add a $30 Baofeng and
> you have a satellite setup for next to nothing.
>
> Don't want to build or can't? The price difference between an Arrow
> antenna with a diplexer, and one without is about $60, or the cost of TWO
> cheap HTs. Use the extra $30 to buy some good cables.
>
> I certainly don't mind if those getting started try half-duplex at first,
> and it has it's place in some situations. I even wrote an article 10 years
> ago about half duplex ops with the FT-817 on FO-29, which I plan to update
> soon, but the linear sats are different animals, with different
> challenges.
>
> Once you try full duplex and realize the benefits of being able to hear if
> you are causing or being QRM, and being able to twist the antenna during
> transmit to get a better uplink signal, you won't want to go back to the
> old way.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Jerry Conner via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >Sent: Jun 28, 2016 10:42 AM
> >To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> >Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [FWD: RE:  Southern CA Satellite Presentations]
> >
> >
> >
> >Then what I am hearing, "AS A NEWBIE" is that I am not welcome on the
> Sats because I do not have the financial resources to invest in all the
> equipment needed to run full duplex.  It is more than two cheap Chinese
> radios, it also involves an antenna, which at the very least it is almost
> double the cost of the two Chinese radios.
> >
> >Money that some of us have a hard time pulling together.
> >
> >I have a hard time with all the purest, my way or the highway mentality I
> am hearing.
> >
> >
> >
> >Just my 2 cents
> >
> >Jerry W4JWC
> >
> >
> >
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
> >From: Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net <mailto:Mat_62 at charter.net> >
> >Date: Mon, June 27, 2016 9:04 pm
> >To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >
> >I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of
> >your live presentations. It is printed in black and white in your
> handout.
> >You just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began
> >giving out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty
> >of spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You
> >are leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If
> >one does not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from
> >the bird so as to insure they are "making it there" then they should
> >not be on the satellites. End of story.
> >Michael, W4HIJ
> >On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> >>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory"
> for working sats.
> >> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered
> >> the sentence to groups, "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. -
> >> PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds is all over the
> place:
> >>
> >> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode,
> >> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are
> >> transmitting. Although this method is preferred, it is not mandatory:
> >> Carefully monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the
> conversations to announce yourself."
> >>
> >> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
> instructions.
> >>
> >> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons
> >> why working full- duplex is preferable.
> >>
> >> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who
> >> was aboard the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
> >>
> >> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working
> >> the easy birds, I am available. Just send me an email message.
> >>
> >> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> >> (909) 999-SATS
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA
> >> makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide
> >> without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of
> the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 17:52:23 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:52:23 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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The Yaesu FT-60R is often promoted as a good choice for beginners. This
promotion can be misleading to many who buy this radio believing it has
some magical ability to perform any better than any other dualband HT
programmed for "split" (semi-duplex.)

The radio itself is not the problem. It's the misperception that buying
this HT will equate to success that leaves many frustrated.

Let's set realistic expectations. Semi-duplex does work but it's not
ideal.  Promoting simple equipment is great but needs to be matched with
the right fundamental skills.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From mvivona at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 18:43:55 2016
From: mvivona at yahoo.com (mvivona at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:43:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
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Nicely put Drew.
I also get a chuckle when I hear the "I only have one radio".?? When I go to any hams house and stumble into his shack there are always so many radios, antennas, switches, coax bundles, etc. The word Ham means a collector or hoarder of electrical stuff. I mean that in a good sense as I am one also, ha. 

I never want to exclude anyone and actually love enticing new hams into working the birds. I can definitely feel for those that try to work SO-50 and all they hear is sqqqaakkkk squeeeek buzzzz. 

Tell you what. If there is any ham out there that really can't afford another antenna, then I would be more than happy to help them out. I have a brand new Elk antenna with the velcro bag. Never used! If it will help I will send it to you for free. I never want to discourage anyone. I look at it as guidance to new hams to help them be proficient operators. Working full duplex is a blast. ? 
?Michael 


      From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>
 To: Jerry Conner <jerryconn at aol.com>; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
   




>That is what I have done, built a cheap antenna.? I have a Chinese radio and I have made contacts on SO-50, half duplex.? I DO NOT get on the linear birds because >primary I do not have the means to run 2M/70CM SSB. I can also understand that it would near impossible to effectively make a contact But newbies can/should be >given guidance in the form of Elmers. Not being told they are not welcome if they don't have the equipment others have.

The discussion centers on the importance of best practices being taught and demonstrated by those elmers you mention. Elmers walk with you, guiding, correcting, encouraging along the way. The need to have practical knowledge, and all too often we see people who don't operate, or just started themselves, passing out poor or erroneous information. If the shields can be dropped for long enough, there are lots of elmers right here on this list to help the newbies out. Elmers should continue to learn as well.

> By the way check the prices an arrow >antenna that will give someone the best chance to get into AO-85 with a Cheap Chinese radio is about $150.00.

Elmer moment right here: The arrow without the diplexer is $60 cheaper than the one with the diplexer (http://store.amsat.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=1). Use that $60 for a 2nd receiver and now you can hear if you are getting into AO-85 or SO-50, adjust for Doppler on AO-85, and make more contacts, and cause less QRM. You'll need a set of headphones as well, about $5 at Big Lots or Walmart. Better experience for you, better for everyone else, less money.

Or, build the functionally same antenna for $10 and a few hours time, and save some more bucks. I love my Arrow(s), but a WA5VJB or IOio antenna works just as well. Links to plans can be found here: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144

73, Drew KO4MA




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From kq2rp.cw at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 19:26:03 2016
From: kq2rp.cw at gmail.com (Chris Del Plato KQ2RP)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:26:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA HP44 Thomas Edison NHP SO-50
Message-ID: <CACZQ6i_GsQcJiKrPFG1PjoA2KgUTET-pH0Emp6CfFc7RXLnN9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

If all goes according to plan, I will cap off my NPOTA activation operation
from Thomas Edison's Lab on SO-50. Activation is posted on the NPOTA page.

Activation from that site will take place this Friday, July 1st. I will be
on the HF bands from around 1630z until the SO-50 pass which will begin for
me in FN20 at approximately 1929z. I will be operating handheld (as I
always do) with my homebrew dual yagi & diplexer and VX-5R.

Not sure if it's appropriate for me to ask for others to 'clear the way',
but I would hope to get in as many NPOTA chasers as possible. If things get
hot & heavy (expected) I will likely skip giving my grid and only announce
it once or twice and focus on giving just the HP44 designator (as required
by NPOTA rules).

Hope to hear many of you!

73,
Chris KQ2RP

From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 28 19:31:55 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:31:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA HP44 Thomas Edison NHP SO-50
In-Reply-To: <CACZQ6i_GsQcJiKrPFG1PjoA2KgUTET-pH0Emp6CfFc7RXLnN9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACZQ6i_GsQcJiKrPFG1PjoA2KgUTET-pH0Emp6CfFc7RXLnN9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoWZsYjZ48YM-kcCuAfAFU9gbJw+XuY7Gfya+7CXUa=GQ@mail.gmail.com>

Chris,

I will be listening for you! It's certainly appropriate for you to
skip the grid on a busy pass and just give the park designator,
especially since it's not a rare grid. Hopefully no one will actually
think you are maritime mobile halfway between Greenland and Iceland ;)

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Chris Del Plato KQ2RP
<kq2rp.cw at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> If all goes according to plan, I will cap off my NPOTA activation operation
> from Thomas Edison's Lab on SO-50. Activation is posted on the NPOTA page.
>
> Activation from that site will take place this Friday, July 1st. I will be
> on the HF bands from around 1630z until the SO-50 pass which will begin for
> me in FN20 at approximately 1929z. I will be operating handheld (as I
> always do) with my homebrew dual yagi & diplexer and VX-5R.
>
> Not sure if it's appropriate for me to ask for others to 'clear the way',
> but I would hope to get in as many NPOTA chasers as possible. If things get
> hot & heavy (expected) I will likely skip giving my grid and only announce
> it once or twice and focus on giving just the HP44 designator (as required
> by NPOTA rules).
>
> Hope to hear many of you!
>
> 73,
> Chris KQ2RP
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Tue Jun 28 20:28:36 2016
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (rsoifer1 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:28:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication satellites
Message-ID: <15598b30373-12d5-2a4b@webprd-m16.mail.aol.com>



This past weekend, I made three ARRL/AMSAT Field Day QSOs via FO-29 (JAS-2). Nothing noteworthy about that, except that FO-29 will be 20 years old on August 17th.  We're very fortunate that its linear transponder still works.  The CW beacon and digital transponders are no longer functioning.

Two more of the satellites carrying the bulk of amateur satellite communication are well beyond their design lifetimes.  SO-50, our main FM transponder satellite, will be 14 years old in December.  Then, of course, there is AO-7, whose linear transponders miraculously are still functioning some of the time.  In November it will be 42 years young.

Educational and research satellites are well and good, but amateur satellite communication is still overly dependent on aging space hardware. To those who are building new amateur communication transponders, especially linear transponders in the UHF and VHF bands, best wishes for success.  I wish there were more of you.  Maybe there will be.
 
73 Ray W2RS





From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 28 20:40:17 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:40:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication satellites
In-Reply-To: <15598b30373-12d5-2a4b@webprd-m16.mail.aol.com>
References: <15598b30373-12d5-2a4b@webprd-m16.mail.aol.com>
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Ray,

The CW beacon on FO-29 does still function. We are definitely
fortunate that FO-29 still works and works very well. It is clearly
the most popular linear transponder satellite due to it's wide
passband and high orbit.

I would note that we are not starved for linear transponders. There
are 7 in orbit and active and 4 in orbit awaiting activation plus at
least one more scheduled for launch this year (Nayif-1). As far as FM
satellites, there are three in orbit with two of those available 24/7
and a third with an errattic schedule. However, between now and
January, three more FM satellites are scheduled to launch (Fox-1Cliff,
Fox-1D, and RadFxSat/Fox-1B).

The issue, of course, is the orbits of these satellite don't approach
the 1460km apogee or 1330km apogee of FO-29. We can blame debris
mitigation rules for that! Hopefully we will find a way to get some
higher orbiting satellites up in the future (including GEO/HEO).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>
> This past weekend, I made three ARRL/AMSAT Field Day QSOs via FO-29 (JAS-2). Nothing noteworthy about that, except that FO-29 will be 20 years old on August 17th.  We're very fortunate that its linear transponder still works.  The CW beacon and digital transponders are no longer functioning.
>
> Two more of the satellites carrying the bulk of amateur satellite communication are well beyond their design lifetimes.  SO-50, our main FM transponder satellite, will be 14 years old in December.  Then, of course, there is AO-7, whose linear transponders miraculously are still functioning some of the time.  In November it will be 42 years young.
>
> Educational and research satellites are well and good, but amateur satellite communication is still overly dependent on aging space hardware. To those who are building new amateur communication transponders, especially linear transponders in the UHF and VHF bands, best wishes for success.  I wish there were more of you.  Maybe there will be.
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 20:46:03 2016
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:46:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Amateur communication satellites
References: <702424157.3155014.1467146763865.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <702424157.3155014.1467146763865.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>


You and I go all the way back to RS-12/13, Ray. (AC5DK back then). The problem is not people to build the satellites or the desire to build them... it's the launch opportunities. Educational & research birds have them at free or reasonable costs... private birds for hobby use do not. There are many that feel as you do, but don't understand the 'why'. Just thought it deserved being stated.

ANSAT-NA is still fighting the good fight, but most don't understand that the fight has changed over the years. It's not WHAT to put in orbit, it's IF we can find a way.

73, Kevin N4UFO


This past weekend, I made three ARRL/AMSAT Field Day QSOs via FO-29 (JAS-2). Nothing noteworthy about that, except that FO-29 will be 20 years old on August 17th.  We're very fortunate that its linear transponder still works.  The CW beacon and digital transponders are no longer functioning.

Two more of the satellites carrying the bulk of amateur satellite communication are well beyond their design lifetimes.  SO-50, our main FM transponder satellite, will be 14 years old in December.  Then, of course, there is AO-7, whose linear transponders miraculously are still functioning some of the time.  In November it will be 42 years young.

Educational and research satellites are well and good, but amateur satellite communication is still overly dependent on aging space hardware. To those who are building new amateur communication transponders, especially linear transponders in the UHF and VHF bands, best wishes for success.  I wish there were more of you.  Maybe there will be.
 
73 Ray W2RS


From plaws0 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 21:02:39 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:02:39 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Topic Change -- Now FM Rule -- was -- RE: N8HM Field
 Day Report - 1B MDC -- Topic Change FM Rule
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoAQf2_0ht+huXAx3_D5KdYyrfExAVA3BKEe3C8QLOZUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401d1d0b7$d2b5d6e0$782184a0$@att.net>
	<CABzOSOoAQf2_0ht+huXAx3_D5KdYyrfExAVA3BKEe3C8QLOZUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ9+jqpnYdRwFUuJ0mn6uMJ4svxXjH+Tk9Oy53dS2fsAFQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> . This brings me back to my original point, if
> people can't be bothered to check which satellites are active,


Google "amsat mode a".  First hit here (YMMV!) is "Amateur Satellite
FAQ - Amsat" at http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html

It's a document that describes all the great stuff you can work, like
MIR and OSCAR-21 and AO-13.  Go ahead and get a copy from the Clear
Skies BBS - the number is listed!  That FAQ is old enough to legally
consume alcohol in all 50 states, BTW, having turned 21 at the end of
last year.

That's hardly the only instance of obsolete info on the AMSAT website.
When I google "what ham satellites are working?" the first AMSAT hit I
get is "Working your first Amateur Satellite!" by VK3JED
(http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/langdon.php).  I'm
sure it was quite accurate when it was written, which was apparently
around the time SUNSAT was was launched.  That page is now eligible to
hold a driver's license in most states.

So let's not be too hard on random people trying to find information.


And yes, taking a cue from the "Volunteer For AMSAT" page, please sign
me up for "Web site information maintenance".

Peter


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Jun 28 21:21:18 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:21:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Topic Change -- Now FM Rule -- was -- RE: N8HM Field
 Day Report - 1B MDC -- Topic Change FM Rule
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ9+jqpnYdRwFUuJ0mn6uMJ4svxXjH+Tk9Oy53dS2fsAFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401d1d0b7$d2b5d6e0$782184a0$@att.net>
	<CABzOSOoAQf2_0ht+huXAx3_D5KdYyrfExAVA3BKEe3C8QLOZUQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ9+jqpnYdRwFUuJ0mn6uMJ4svxXjH+Tk9Oy53dS2fsAFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOom=FSVWJSc94av3FjvPyKxGN2nq_wu6a826OjUCQicpA@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,

The AMSAT web site is kept up to date with current information on a
regular basis, but those old pages do contain important archival
information and it wouldn't be right to just delete it. There is a
massive amount of information useful for those doing historical
research in those files. I have used that document and many others on
numerous occasions.

>From the AMSAT home page, the 'Satellite Info' tab contains links to
plenty of current and accurate information. This page contains all you
need to know: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177

We are always looking for people to help with the web site. If you
have some specific suggestions in mind, please email me.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>> . This brings me back to my original point, if
>> people can't be bothered to check which satellites are active,
>
>
> Google "amsat mode a".  First hit here (YMMV!) is "Amateur Satellite
> FAQ - Amsat" at http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html
>
> It's a document that describes all the great stuff you can work, like
> MIR and OSCAR-21 and AO-13.  Go ahead and get a copy from the Clear
> Skies BBS - the number is listed!  That FAQ is old enough to legally
> consume alcohol in all 50 states, BTW, having turned 21 at the end of
> last year.
>
> That's hardly the only instance of obsolete info on the AMSAT website.
> When I google "what ham satellites are working?" the first AMSAT hit I
> get is "Working your first Amateur Satellite!" by VK3JED
> (http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/langdon.php).  I'm
> sure it was quite accurate when it was written, which was apparently
> around the time SUNSAT was was launched.  That page is now eligible to
> hold a driver's license in most states.
>
> So let's not be too hard on random people trying to find information.
>
>
> And yes, taking a cue from the "Volunteer For AMSAT" page, please sign
> me up for "Web site information maintenance".
>
> Peter
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 21:25:08 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:25:08 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Topic Change -- Now FM Rule -- was -- RE: N8HM Field
 Day Report - 1B MDC -- Topic Change FM Rule
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOom=FSVWJSc94av3FjvPyKxGN2nq_wu6a826OjUCQicpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401d1d0b7$d2b5d6e0$782184a0$@att.net>
	<CABzOSOoAQf2_0ht+huXAx3_D5KdYyrfExAVA3BKEe3C8QLOZUQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ9+jqpnYdRwFUuJ0mn6uMJ4svxXjH+Tk9Oy53dS2fsAFQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOom=FSVWJSc94av3FjvPyKxGN2nq_wu6a826OjUCQicpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ_ByARrfYgkj+4Q3Wpq6vazDoqqLw-3DRUGArEB8Jk6fw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> but those old pages do contain important archival
> information and it wouldn't be right to just delete it.

No one suggested deleting it but it's not even marked as being mostly obsolete.

Most people "in the know" would see MIR and say "wait - *how* old is
this?" but if you are in your 20s, you may not know that it's mission
ended 15 years ago.  But pages like this are not for people who are in
the know.  Given how close to the top of the page rank these appear,
it's a problem to have obsolete information readily available.






-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From wouterweg at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 21:57:25 2016
From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 23:57:25 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication satellites
In-Reply-To: <15598b30373-12d5-2a4b@webprd-m16.mail.aol.com>
References: <15598b30373-12d5-2a4b@webprd-m16.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAKXf1rF_TCR_wRneCjiS6NaDezFAofyeZyP_ZjkB_FekOLpoyw@mail.gmail.com>

> To those who are building new amateur communication transponders, especially linear transponders in the UHF and VHF bands, best wishes for success.  I wish there were more of you.  Maybe there will be.

I will build more, and if you ask me we will have plenty of
transponders to operate.
I am extremely proud to be able to say that I am part of the Delfi-C3,
AMSAT-UK and AMSAT-NL teams that have built five transponders that are
in orbit. Not all of them are functional anymore. Nayif-1 will carry
the new and enhanced design that should prove to be more frequency
stable.

I've got some other opportunities lined up as well, so expect more. We
are thinking about other payloads as well, but I'll keep dotting the
sky until there is no more excuse not to work satellites ;)

In all seriousness though, we are thinking about different
applications as well, because we can't put up linear transponders
forever.

73

Wouter PA3WEG

From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Tue Jun 28 21:57:29 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:57:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Topic Change -- Now FM Rule -- was -- RE: N8HM Field
	Day Report - 1B MDC -- Topic Change FM Rule
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOom=FSVWJSc94av3FjvPyKxGN2nq_wu6a826OjUCQicpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001401d1d0b7$d2b5d6e0$782184a0$@att.net>
	<CABzOSOoAQf2_0ht+huXAx3_D5KdYyrfExAVA3BKEe3C8QLOZUQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANVAiQ9+jqpnYdRwFUuJ0mn6uMJ4svxXjH+Tk9Oy53dS2fsAFQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOom=FSVWJSc94av3FjvPyKxGN2nq_wu6a826OjUCQicpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0769E9D-59C8-4578-A426-CCC920BD7549@comcast.net>

I agree with Paul, I would add the adage to RTFM.  I don't intend to insult or demean anyone, but before we transmit we should be very familiar with our assets.  In my case, I have printed out loads of FAQs and relevant pages on each of the birds.  I have them in a ring binder with separators, protected by plastic page protectors.  If I want to know about AO-7, I just open to that section (now with some 50+ pages), for example.

73
Dave N4CVX


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 28, 2016, at 16:21, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> The AMSAT web site is kept up to date with current information on a
> regular basis, but those old pages do contain important archival
> information and it wouldn't be right to just delete it. There is a
> massive amount of information useful for those doing historical
> research in those files. I have used that document and many others on
> numerous occasions.
> 
> From the AMSAT home page, the 'Satellite Info' tab contains links to
> plenty of current and accurate information. This page contains all you
> need to know: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177
> 
> We are always looking for people to help with the web site. If you
> have some specific suggestions in mind, please email me.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>> . This brings me back to my original point, if
>>> people can't be bothered to check which satellites are active,
>> 
>> 
>> Google "amsat mode a".  First hit here (YMMV!) is "Amateur Satellite
>> FAQ - Amsat" at http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html
>> 
>> It's a document that describes all the great stuff you can work, like
>> MIR and OSCAR-21 and AO-13.  Go ahead and get a copy from the Clear
>> Skies BBS - the number is listed!  That FAQ is old enough to legally
>> consume alcohol in all 50 states, BTW, having turned 21 at the end of
>> last year.
>> 
>> That's hardly the only instance of obsolete info on the AMSAT website.
>> When I google "what ham satellites are working?" the first AMSAT hit I
>> get is "Working your first Amateur Satellite!" by VK3JED
>> (http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/langdon.php).  I'm
>> sure it was quite accurate when it was written, which was apparently
>> around the time SUNSAT was was launched.  That page is now eligible to
>> hold a driver's license in most states.
>> 
>> So let's not be too hard on random people trying to find information.
>> 
>> 
>> And yes, taking a cue from the "Volunteer For AMSAT" page, please sign
>> me up for "Web site information maintenance".
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From Mat_62 at charter.net  Tue Jun 28 23:18:48 2016
From: Mat_62 at charter.net (Michael)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:18:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
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References: <25950095.1467129371777.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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I know full well what it's like to be on a budget and not have a lot of 
disposable income to spend on radio. I'm not a wealthy person by any 
stretch of the imagination. I've known a few hams in my lifetime who 
could spend what they wanted when they wanted to on radio. 
Unfortunately, most of us are not that lucky.
  When I first got into satellite operation I had inherited a good deal 
of HF radio equipment from my late Father, the original holder of the 
callsign W4HIJ.  It was more stuff than I could use and I managed to 
sell it off slowly and generate enough funds to buy myself a Kenwood 
TS-2000X. Since it covered "DC to daylight" I figured that might be the 
last radio I would ever buy. I had an HF antenna to hook up to it but 
the problem was that since I had blown my whole wad of cash on the rig, 
I had no money left for a satellite antenna system. So I began scrimping 
and saving every dime I could and began doing lots of research on the 
internet. Eventually I was able to build a couple of WA5VJB cheap yagis 
with PVC booms and aluminum elements taken from an old damaged 11 
element 2 meter beam. I found a circuit on the internet that used a 
BASIC STAMP to interface with the shack PC and control a couple of old 
Gemini OR-360 TV antenna rotators which I found a source for online. I 
had to buy everything like the rotators and circuit components almost 
one piece at a time as money permitted but I eventually had a full 
fledged sat station with a  PC controlled rig and homebrew Az/El antenna 
control. This was during the heyday of A0-51 and I even managed to get 
my hands on some S band stuff although I never could get it to work.
  Unfortunately that thing called life reared it's head and I had no 
choice but to sell my rig to pay for a major repair on one of the family 
cars. Family always comes first. I left my antenna system up because it 
was also controlling the Azimuth pointing of an HF mini beam that I used 
with an old boat anchor HF rig that I had kept as a spare. Eventually 
the PVC booms on the homebrew sat antennas began to weaken and crack due 
to constant UV exposure. I had painted them but it didn't help so I took 
them down. It was also about the same time that something went west in 
the homebrew rotator control and took out the power transformer, BASIC 
STAMP and a couple of relays and I had no money to fix it and replace 
the bad components.
  I had a couple of 2 meter and 70cm HT's so I built a dual band version 
of the cheap yagi and devised a mount to put it on an old camera tripod 
I already had to work full duplex on some of the FM sats. However, I 
quickly discovered that standing outside on the deck in the heat or cold 
to work FM sats just wasn't my cup of tea. More power to those of you 
who enjoy it but I'm just not happy without the comfort of a base 
station located in the indoor shack.
  I was off the satellites for awhile and acquired a Flex 1500 which I 
enjoyed immensely but again had to sell to help with some family 
financial issues.
  Fast forward to the very recent past. We actually got a pretty good 
tax refund this year and after taking care of various bills and such 
there was enough left over that my beautiful XYL let me combine it with 
money I had been saving to purchase a Yaesu FT-991 and a Funcube Pro + 
SDR dongle. I also thought that I was going to be able to get the Yaesu  
AZ/EL rotator system that I've coveted for years but again that fell 
through because of family financial issues. My plan was and still is to 
have a new full duplex satellite base station but right now I have 
nothing to rotate antennas even if only in the azimuth plane and 
foregoing elevation control. Things have gotten extremely tight again 
financially and I'm having a hard time saving even for a basic TV rotator.
  My point in relating this whole story is to point out and explain that 
I'm not trying to be some elitist snob when I'm insisting that folks 
need to be working full duplex. I'm actually probably worse off than a 
lot of you when it comes to finances and disposable income for hobbies. 
Maybe the word "mandatory" is a little much but it was originally 
Clint's word and not mine. I just picked it up out of his PDF and maybe 
used it a little stronger than I should have.
  Full duplex should be a "best practice"  and if someone is not using 
it for whatever reason it should be something they aspire to and 
implement in whatever type sat setup they have as swiftly as possible. 
If you have never used it before you will be amazed at how much simpler 
and efficient it makes things not only for you but for the entire group 
of sat operators who are on the bird at any given time.
73,
Michael W4HIJ

From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Jun 28 23:34:31 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:34:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
In-Reply-To: <577305D8.9030302@charter.net>
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	<577305D8.9030302@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1d97d15b7d18c203e68e3e187806098d@etczone.com>

"Full duplex should be a "best practice"  and if someone is not using it
for whatever reason it should be something they aspire to and implement
in whatever type sat setup they have as swiftly as possible." 

Agreed. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-06-28 19:18, Michael wrote:

> I know full well what it's like to be on a budget and not have a lot of disposable income to spend on radio. I'm not a wealthy person by any stretch of the imagination. I've known a few hams in my lifetime who could spend what they wanted when they wanted to on radio. Unfortunately, most of us are not that lucky.
> When I first got into satellite operation I had inherited a good deal of HF radio equipment from my late Father, the original holder of the callsign W4HIJ.  It was more stuff than I could use and I managed to sell it off slowly and generate enough funds to buy myself a Kenwood TS-2000X. Since it covered "DC to daylight" I figured that might be the last radio I would ever buy. I had an HF antenna to hook up to it but the problem was that since I had blown my whole wad of cash on the rig, I had no money left for a satellite antenna system. So I began scrimping and saving every dime I could and began doing lots of research on the internet. Eventually I was able to build a couple of WA5VJB cheap yagis with PVC booms and aluminum elements taken from an old damaged 11 element 2 meter beam. I found a circuit on the internet that used a BASIC STAMP to interface with the shack PC and control a couple of old Gemini OR-360 TV antenna rotators which I found a source for online. I had to buy
everything like the rotators and circuit components almost one piece at a time as money permitted but I eventually had a full fledged sat station with a  PC controlled rig and homebrew Az/El antenna control. This was during the heyday of A0-51 and I even managed to get my hands on some S band stuff although I never could get it to work.
> Unfortunately that thing called life reared it's head and I had no choice but to sell my rig to pay for a major repair on one of the family cars. Family always comes first. I left my antenna system up because it was also controlling the Azimuth pointing of an HF mini beam that I used with an old boat anchor HF rig that I had kept as a spare. Eventually the PVC booms on the homebrew sat antennas began to weaken and crack due to constant UV exposure. I had painted them but it didn't help so I took them down. It was also about the same time that something went west in the homebrew rotator control and took out the power transformer, BASIC STAMP and a couple of relays and I had no money to fix it and replace the bad components.
> I had a couple of 2 meter and 70cm HT's so I built a dual band version of the cheap yagi and devised a mount to put it on an old camera tripod I already had to work full duplex on some of the FM sats. However, I quickly discovered that standing outside on the deck in the heat or cold to work FM sats just wasn't my cup of tea. More power to those of you who enjoy it but I'm just not happy without the comfort of a base station located in the indoor shack.
> I was off the satellites for awhile and acquired a Flex 1500 which I enjoyed immensely but again had to sell to help with some family financial issues.
> Fast forward to the very recent past. We actually got a pretty good tax refund this year and after taking care of various bills and such there was enough left over that my beautiful XYL let me combine it with money I had been saving to purchase a Yaesu FT-991 and a Funcube Pro + SDR dongle. I also thought that I was going to be able to get the Yaesu  AZ/EL rotator system that I've coveted for years but again that fell through because of family financial issues. My plan was and still is to have a new full duplex satellite base station but right now I have nothing to rotate antennas even if only in the azimuth plane and foregoing elevation control. Things have gotten extremely tight again financially and I'm having a hard time saving even for a basic TV rotator.
> My point in relating this whole story is to point out and explain that I'm not trying to be some elitist snob when I'm insisting that folks need to be working full duplex. I'm actually probably worse off than a lot of you when it comes to finances and disposable income for hobbies. Maybe the word "mandatory" is a little much but it was originally Clint's word and not mine. I just picked it up out of his PDF and maybe used it a little stronger than I should have.
> Full duplex should be a "best practice"  and if someone is not using it for whatever reason it should be something they aspire to and implement in whatever type sat setup they have as swiftly as possible. If you have never used it before you will be amazed at how much simpler and efficient it makes things not only for you but for the entire group of sat operators who are on the bird at any given time.
> 73,
> Michael W4HIJ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From wd4elg at triad.rr.com  Wed Jun 29 02:36:19 2016
From: wd4elg at triad.rr.com (Mark Lunday)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:36:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone using SDRPlay RSP and SDRConsole for the birds?
Message-ID: <033401d1d1af$0513a2f0$0f3ae8d0$@rr.com>

I am using SDRConsole v2.3.

I have an FT817ND that I want to transmit
I have an SDR-Play RSP that I want to receive (NOT connected to the FT817ND)

I can connect to the FT817ND, but cannot get it to change frequency to the
passband I want for a particular satellite, which I have entered into the
database for that satellite.

How do I set this up so that when I select a satellite (FO-29), it sets the
correct passband for receive on the SDR-Play RSP and it sets the correct
frequency on the FT817ND for transmit (and adjusts the transmit for
doppler)?

I don't see any instructions which relate to this use case, can someone
please point me in the correct direction?  Thanks.


Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4elg at arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com



From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Wed Jun 29 12:28:03 2016
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (rsoifer1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:28:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication
 satelliteshttps://mail.aol.com/webmail-std/en-us/suite#
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Paul,




 
I didn't say that AO-7, FO-29 and SO-50 are the only communication satellites, only that they are the most popular and useful. 

Why is that?  As you say, some of that has to do with altitude, which is largely beyond our control.  Some has to do with low power output, which depends on satellite size.  Some, too, has to do with operating schedule: is it always on?

73 Ray 
-----Original Message--- do
From: Paul Stoetzer n8hm at arrl.net is
To: rsoifer1 <rsoifer1 at aol.com>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org
Sent: Tue, Jun 28, 2016 1:48 pm
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication satellites

Ray,

The CW beacon on FO-29 does still function. We are definitely
fortunate that FO-29 still works and works very well. It is clearly
the most popular linear transponder satellite due to it's wide
passband and high orbit.

I would note that we are not starved for linear transponders. There
are 7 in orbit and active and 4 in orbit awaiting activation plus at
least one more scheduled for launch this year (Nayif-1). As far as FM
satellites, there are three in orbit with two of those available 24/7
and a third with an errattic schedule. However, between now and
January, three more FM satellites are scheduled to launch (Fox-1Cliff,
Fox-1D, and RadFxSat/Fox-1B).

The issue, of course, is the orbits of these satellite don't approach
the 1460km apogee or 1330km apogee of FO-29. We can blame debris
mitigation rules for that! Hopefully we will find a way to get some
higher orbiting satellites up in the future (including GEO/HEO).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>
> This past weekend, I made three ARRL/AMSAT Field Day QSOs via FO-29 (JAS-2). Nothing noteworthy about that, except that FO-29 will be 20 years old on August 17th.  We're very fortunate that its linear transponder still works.  The CW beacon and digital transponders are no longer functioning.
>
> Two more of the satellites carrying the bulk of amateur satellite communication are well beyond their design lifetimes.  SO-50, our main FM transponder satellite, will be 14 years old in December.  Then, of course, there is AO-7, whose linear transponders miraculously are still functioning some of the time.  In November it will be 42 years young.
>
> Educational and research satellites are well and good, but amateur satellite communication is still overly dependent on aging space hardware. To those who are building new amateur communication transponders, especially linear transponders in the UHF and VHF bands, best wishes for success.  I wish there were more of you.  Maybe there will be.
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
>
>
>
>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From ewpereira at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 13:57:06 2016
From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:57:06 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication
	satelliteshttps://mail.aol.com/webmail-std/en-us/suite#
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One area that I believe would welcome more experimentation is digital
transponders and digital repeaters. I think there is a vast territory for
experimentation (protocols, ground software, etc). With some careful
engineering, a digital transponder could be operated on the same frequency
using half-duplex. This would simplify the antenna system and ease the
operation.

73, Edson PY2SDR

---
- We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together.
- N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se
trabalharmos juntos.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:28 AM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul,
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn't say that AO-7, FO-29 and SO-50 are the only communication
> satellites, only that they are the most popular and useful.
>
> Why is that?  As you say, some of that has to do with altitude, which is
> largely beyond our control.  Some has to do with low power output, which
> depends on satellite size.  Some, too, has to do with operating schedule:
> is it always on?
>
> 73 Ray
> -----Original Message--- do
> From: Paul Stoetzer n8hm at arrl.net is
> To: rsoifer1 <rsoifer1 at aol.com>
> Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Sent: Tue, Jun 28, 2016 1:48 pm
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication satellites
>
> Ray,
>
> The CW beacon on FO-29 does still function. We are definitely
> fortunate that FO-29 still works and works very well. It is clearly
> the most popular linear transponder satellite due to it's wide
> passband and high orbit.
>
> I would note that we are not starved for linear transponders. There
> are 7 in orbit and active and 4 in orbit awaiting activation plus at
> least one more scheduled for launch this year (Nayif-1). As far as FM
> satellites, there are three in orbit with two of those available 24/7
> and a third with an errattic schedule. However, between now and
> January, three more FM satellites are scheduled to launch (Fox-1Cliff,
> Fox-1D, and RadFxSat/Fox-1B).
>
> The issue, of course, is the orbits of these satellite don't approach
> the 1460km apogee or 1330km apogee of FO-29. We can blame debris
> mitigation rules for that! Hopefully we will find a way to get some
> higher orbiting satellites up in the future (including GEO/HEO).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This past weekend, I made three ARRL/AMSAT Field Day QSOs via FO-29
> (JAS-2). Nothing noteworthy about that, except that FO-29 will be 20 years
> old on August 17th.  We're very fortunate that its linear transponder still
> works.  The CW beacon and digital transponders are no longer functioning.
> >
> > Two more of the satellites carrying the bulk of amateur satellite
> communication are well beyond their design lifetimes.  SO-50, our main FM
> transponder satellite, will be 14 years old in December.  Then, of course,
> there is AO-7, whose linear transponders miraculously are still functioning
> some of the time.  In November it will be 42 years young.
> >
> > Educational and research satellites are well and good, but amateur
> satellite communication is still overly dependent on aging space hardware.
> To those who are building new amateur communication transponders,
> especially linear transponders in the UHF and VHF bands, best wishes for
> success.  I wish there were more of you.  Maybe there will be.
> >
> > 73 Ray W2RS
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From RSoifer1 at aol.com  Wed Jun 29 14:47:32 2016
From: RSoifer1 at aol.com (RSoifer1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:47:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur
	communication	satelliteshttps://mail.aol.com/webmail-std
Message-ID: <338.1ac50cb6.44a53984@aol.com>

Good thought, Edson.  I hope someone follows through on it.
 
Kevin and others, let's also bear in mind that most of the satellites being 
 built today for operation in the amateur bands are coming from outside 
North  America.  There are hundreds of them; to get an idea, look at the IARU  
frequency coordination data base at _www.iaru.org/satellite_ 
(http://www.iaru.org/satellite) .  Very few  of these are communication transponders.  
Wouter, AMSAT-UK, and a few  others are doing a great job; we need more of them.
 
Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur  
communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
 
The purpose of this thread is to encourage more people, inside and outside  
the US, to consider building amateur comm sats.  Especially outside North  
America, there are more launch opportunities than we might think.
 
73 Ray W2RS

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 29 15:30:51 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:30:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication
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The amateur satellite fleet is mostly not aging. AO-7, FO-29, and
SO-50 are the exceptions and only comprise 25% of the active
satellites available for hams to work.

The other currently active satellites available for communication worldwide are:

AO-73 (launched 2013, available in eclipse and on weekends)
AO-85 (launched 2015, available 24/7)
ISS APRS digipeater (available most of the time, except during school
contacts. spacewalks, and docking/undocking)
LilacSat-2 (launched 2015, available sporadically when command station
is available to turn it on)
NO-84 (launched 2015, PSK31 transponder available 24/7 + APRS
digipeater available as power budget permits)
UKube-1 (launched 2014, seemingly available 24/7 for now)
XW-2A (launched 2015, available 24/7)
XW-2C (launched 2015, available 24/7)
XW-2F (launched 2015, available 24/7)

A summary of available satellites and selected satellites scheduled
for launch is available on the AMSAT website at
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Active-Amateur-Radio-Communications-Satellites.pdf

Several satellites have been launched (some quite recently) with the
promise of different forms of digital or analog communications
facilities. Some have failed to come to pass because of satellite
failure, which is natural. In several other cases, the satellite
operator has failed to provide any information about it to the amateur
community at large or seemingly ignored the promises of a secondary
communications mission.

There may also be several under development that we simply don't know
about yet. The XW-2 satellites only became known to the amateur
satellite community about four months prior to launch. AMSAT
Argentina's LUSEX transponder was discussed briefly last year, but the
details didn't become widely known until a few months ago.

I know there are quite a few projects that are at various stages of
development. I know of examples from Turkey, Japan, Thailand, and Cuba
all carrying transponders for amateur use. I have no idea how far
along those projects are of if they will ever come to fruition, but
they are out there.

I certainly agree that we need to convince anyone building an amateur
satellite to include transponder capability, even as a secondary
mission after the end of the primary mission. This capability is
already built into several satellites - nearly any satellite that uses
an ISIS full-duplex cubesat transceiver can be commanded into a
loopback mode that allows it to be used as an FM-to-DSB single channel
transponder (similar to AO-16). We just need to convince the operators
to command them into that mode when they are done with their
satellite! Triton-1 (launched on the same DNEPR launch as AO-73) was
supposed to be put into that mode at the conclusion of it's primary
mission, but that has not come to pass.

As far as US-built and launched amateur communications satellites,
Bob's regulatory challenges are unique to his particular situation,
but AMSAT-NA has already launched one 10 months ago, AO-85 (in orbit,
operational, and generally available 24/7), and has three more
scheduled to launch within the next seven months (Fox-1Cliff & Fox-1D
in Fall 2016, RadFxSat / Fox-1B in January 2017). A fifth, RadFxSat-2
/ Fox-1E has been selected for a NASA CSLI launch as well.

All of this discussion is ignoring the pending launch of Es'HailSat-2
with AMSAT-DL's geostationary P4A payload and the progress on AMSAT-NA
& Virginia Tech's P4B geosynchronous payload mission. There are lots
of exciting things in motion and we are definitely not in danger of
running out of things orbiting the earth for amateur radio operators
to communicate through any time soon.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:47 AM, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> Good thought, Edson.  I hope someone follows through on it.
>
> Kevin and others, let's also bear in mind that most of the satellites being
>  built today for operation in the amateur bands are coming from outside
> North  America.  There are hundreds of them; to get an idea, look at the IARU
> frequency coordination data base at _www.iaru.org/satellite_
> (http://www.iaru.org/satellite) .  Very few  of these are communication transponders.
> Wouter, AMSAT-UK, and a few  others are doing a great job; we need more of them.
>
> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
>
> The purpose of this thread is to encourage more people, inside and outside
> the US, to consider building amateur comm sats.  Especially outside North
> America, there are more launch opportunities than we might think.
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From w7lrd at comcast.net  Wed Jun 29 16:15:11 2016
From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:15:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [PNWVHFS] For Sale Icom IC-275H
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just forwarding from my inbox 
73 Bob W7LRD 

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Hello everyone, 

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From rsoifer1 at aol.com  Wed Jun 29 16:18:41 2016
From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (rsoifer1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 12:18:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication
 satelliteshttps://mail.aol.com/webmail-std
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Paul,
 
Thanks for gathering and publicizing that info.  I hope people find it helpful.
 
Putting on my IARU hat for the moment, though, I should remind everyone that we were unable to coordinate XW-2A and XW-2C because their 2-meter operation is outside the global satellite sub-band of 145.8-146.0 MHz.  While there is no law against using them, those who do should be aware of the possibility of interference to or from other amateur operations.

73 Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
To: RSoifer1 <RSoifer1 at aol.com>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2016 8:30 am
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Amateur communication satelliteshttps://mail.aol.com/webmail-std

The amateur satellite fleet is mostly not aging. AO-7, FO-29, and
SO-50 are the exceptions and only comprise 25% of the active
satellites available for hams to work.

The other currently active satellites available for communication worldwide are:

AO-73 (launched 2013, available in eclipse and on weekends)
AO-85 (launched 2015, available 24/7)
ISS APRS digipeater (available most of the time, except during school
contacts. spacewalks, and docking/undocking)
LilacSat-2 (launched 2015, available sporadically when command station
is available to turn it on)
NO-84 (launched 2015, PSK31 transponder available 24/7 + APRS
digipeater available as power budget permits)
UKube-1 (launched 2014, seemingly available 24/7 for now)
XW-2A (launched 2015, available 24/7)
XW-2C (launched 2015, available 24/7)
XW-2F (launched 2015, available 24/7)

A summary of available satellites and selected satellites scheduled
for launch is available on the AMSAT website at
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Active-Amateur-Radio-Communications-Satellites.pdf

Several satellites have been launched (some quite recently) with the
promise of different forms of digital or analog communications
facilities. Some have failed to come to pass because of satellite
failure, which is natural. In several other cases, the satellite
operator has failed to provide any information about it to the amateur
community at large or seemingly ignored the promises of a secondary
communications mission.

There may also be several under development that we simply don't know
about yet. The XW-2 satellites only became known to the amateur
satellite community about four months prior to launch. AMSAT
Argentina's LUSEX transponder was discussed briefly last year, but the
details didn't become widely known until a few months ago.

I know there are quite a few projects that are at various stages of
development. I know of examples from Turkey, Japan, Thailand, and Cuba
all carrying transponders for amateur use. I have no idea how far
along those projects are of if they will ever come to fruition, but
they are out there.

I certainly agree that we need to convince anyone building an amateur
satellite to include transponder capability, even as a secondary
mission after the end of the primary mission. This capability is
already built into several satellites - nearly any satellite that uses
an ISIS full-duplex cubesat transceiver can be commanded into a
loopback mode that allows it to be used as an FM-to-DSB single channel
transponder (similar to AO-16). We just need to convince the operators
to command them into that mode when they are done with their
satellite! Triton-1 (launched on the same DNEPR launch as AO-73) was
supposed to be put into that mode at the conclusion of it's primary
mission, but that has not come to pass.

As far as US-built and launched amateur communications satellites,
Bob's regulatory challenges are unique to his particular situation,
but AMSAT-NA has already launched one 10 months ago, AO-85 (in orbit,
operational, and generally available 24/7), and has three more
scheduled to launch within the next seven months (Fox-1Cliff & Fox-1D
in Fall 2016, RadFxSat / Fox-1B in January 2017). A fifth, RadFxSat-2
/ Fox-1E has been selected for a NASA CSLI launch as well.

All of this discussion is ignoring the pending launch of Es'HailSat-2
with AMSAT-DL's geostationary P4A payload and the progress on AMSAT-NA
& Virginia Tech's P4B geosynchronous payload mission. There are lots
of exciting things in motion and we are definitely not in danger of
running out of things orbiting the earth for amateur radio operators
to communicate through any time soon.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:47 AM, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> Good thought, Edson.  I hope someone follows through on it.
>
> Kevin and others, let's also bear in mind that most of the satellites being
>  built today for operation in the amateur bands are coming from outside
> North  America.  There are hundreds of them; to get an idea, look at the IARU
> frequency coordination data base at _www.iaru.org/satellite_
> (http://www.iaru.org/satellite) .  Very few  of these are communication transponders.
> Wouter, AMSAT-UK, and a few  others are doing a great job; we need more of them.
>
> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
>
> The purpose of this thread is to encourage more people, inside and outside
> the US, to consider building amateur comm sats.  Especially outside North
> America, there are more launch opportunities than we might think.
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From plaws0 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 18:40:22 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:40:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ_TwWniWry-9nEV=7=kzAzYQCH53mHrFeau5fQSz36PFw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:47 AM, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.

Expand, please.

Just joined, so no back issues of the Journal to reference (that I
know of ... and aside from the copy I got when I joined at Dayton).


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From n8fgv at usa.net  Wed Jun 29 19:04:41 2016
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:04:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2016 AMSAT Symposium Call for Papers
Message-ID: <981uFCTDp3584S05.1467227081@web05.cms.usa.net>

This is the first call for papers for the 2016 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and
Space Symposium to be held on the weekend of November 10 - 14, 2016. Proposals
for papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations are invited on
any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a
tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible, but no later than
September 15th. The final copy must be submitted by October 15th for inclusion
in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz
at n8fgv(at)amsat.org

The 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual Meeting will be held aboard the
cruise ship Carnival Liberty departing from the port of Galveston, Texas on
November 10, 2016 and returning to port on November 14, 2016.

73,
Dan Schultz  N8FGV


From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Wed Jun 29 19:16:44 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:16:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ_TwWniWry-9nEV=7=kzAzYQCH53mHrFeau5fQSz36PFw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ_TwWniWry-9nEV=7=kzAzYQCH53mHrFeau5fQSz36PFw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <457B6CFB-D885-431D-AAC1-697ADD271342@comcast.net>

The US Government restricts the free export of certain devices and/or components and requires a licensing process.  Said process is, as usual, difficult and filled with obfuscating rules.  The theory is that it prevents countries on an export embargo list from receiving components which may be used for purposes which the USG determines may be harmful to US national or corporate interests.   

Goto this site and be amazed:

U.S. Export Control System - US Department of State
www.state.gov ? strategictrade ? overview

Of course, if you are a foreign government intent upon obtaining items listed on the banned list, you simply use an intermediary located in a non-banned country.  Iran and North Korea have been doing that for years.

Regards,
Dave
N4CVX
CWO4 US Army (Ret.)

 
Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 29, 2016, at 13:40, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:47 AM, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
> 
> Expand, please.
> 
> Just joined, so no back issues of the Journal to reference (that I
> know of ... and aside from the copy I got when I joined at Dayton).
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun 29 19:28:02 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:28:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
Message-ID: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>

>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.

> Expand, please.

The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's
last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be
amateur or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.

Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m
and 70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.
FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth).  Note, we CANNOT get
an "Experimental license" from the FCC, because it is true, that our
institution is Federal.  But when  our students build an Amateur
Satellite, it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is
OPERATED.

Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in
support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our fingers
crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.

To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental
satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early AMSATS
with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.

We walk a fine line...  In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment has
to have some educational value to DOD.  In order for us to be able to
build something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it needs
to be amateur.   So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,
we NAILED-IT!

The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite
Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF
satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite
Service where there will be plenty of "users" to exercise it.

So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and
what we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.

Again, fingers crossed.  This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.

LESSON LEARNED:  Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control
operator get involved in the paper work.  He files the paperwork and he
takes the responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.

Bob, WB4APR

From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun 29 19:31:02 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:31:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (now: Cameras)
Message-ID: <6edb0ab60d6592b0244689d6b85545b2@mail.gmail.com>

If anyone (non Federal) has successfully gotten a license for their
Satellite CAMERA through the US process (NOAA) , please contact me.

Thanks
Bob, WB4APR

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Wed Jun 29 19:33:25 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 12:33:25 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
In-Reply-To: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B26C88C-464B-4CF7-82B4-4025F0E2B110@kl7cn.net>

1. Yay. More satellites. 

2. HF? Really? Huh.

3. Net-net: see 1.

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net

On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:28, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

>>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
> 
>> Expand, please.
> 
> The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's
> last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
> Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be
> amateur or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.
> 
> Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m
> and 70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.
> FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth).  Note, we CANNOT get
> an "Experimental license" from the FCC, because it is true, that our
> institution is Federal.  But when  our students build an Amateur
> Satellite, it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is
> OPERATED.
> 
> Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in
> support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our fingers
> crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.
> 
> To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental
> satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early AMSATS
> with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.
> 
> We walk a fine line...  In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment has
> to have some educational value to DOD.  In order for us to be able to
> build something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it needs
> to be amateur.   So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,
> we NAILED-IT!
> 
> The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite
> Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF
> satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite
> Service where there will be plenty of "users" to exercise it.
> 
> So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and
> what we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.
> 
> Again, fingers crossed.  This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.
> 
> LESSON LEARNED:  Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control
> operator get involved in the paper work.  He files the paperwork and he
> takes the responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From n0jy at amsat.org  Wed Jun 29 19:47:09 2016
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:47:09 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (now: Cameras)
In-Reply-To: <6edb0ab60d6592b0244689d6b85545b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6edb0ab60d6592b0244689d6b85545b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <863c68c3-d016-9059-8897-2c3197d454d6@amsat.org>

Hi Bob,

You are contacted.  We have cameras (and "licenses") on Fox-1Cliff and
Fox-1D (yet to fly this fall).
You can contact me directly at my (this) n0jy amsat address.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 6/29/2016 14:31, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> If anyone (non Federal) has successfully gotten a license for their
> Satellite CAMERA through the US process (NOAA) , please contact me.
>
> Thanks
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>


From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Wed Jun 29 20:26:21 2016
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 12:26:21 -0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] Subject: Re:  Financial arguments about full duplex
Message-ID: <201606292026.u5TKQMcW005499@mail41c28.carrierzone.com>

Having read Michael W4HIJ e-mail is humbling - but certainly a 
testament to his dedication to getting on hamsats.

I've been fortunate to own equipment able to work AO-10 (TS-180+432 
transverter plus IC-211), AO-40 (FT-847 plus stuff) and AO-27 with my 
FT-817/Arrow (not duplex).  Having extensive experience with the 
Heo's before using the FT-817 was certainly useful for working 
simplex.  It's doable with care, but so much nicer if one has duplex 
to monitor the downlink.  Using two Baefeng or equivalent brings the 
cost within range for most on FM-Leo's which predominate at present.

I have been retired six years on only social security income so 
sympathetic on the subject of costs.  Recently this has  improved for 
us so easier, now.  I recently considered radios for duplex-sat 
144/432 operation and was considering a FM dual-band mobile radio 
(new) but the cost after acquiring a couple accessories ran to 
$350.  That seemed a bit excessive for "just FM".  So I did a little 
looking around and found a used FT-736R for $550.  That gets me back 
into being able to run all the sats (again).  I already have my AO-40 
antennas and rotator so not having to spend on that makes is easier, 
for sure.

Also at nearly 72 years I'm not so interested in waving an Arrow 
outside (but still have the Arrow).

I have accumulated a lot of ham gear over the last 25-years (so cost 
has been spread out) but have more invested than most.  Fortunate to 
do that in my last years of employment (could not do it in the early 
years).  Michael is a real inspiration - you'll get there!

Lately in discussions with P4 group on designing the "new sat station".


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From skristof at etczone.com  Wed Jun 29 20:28:28 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:28:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
 satellites)
In-Reply-To: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <620fc22a0fc39c5f601fed0a1acbaa8f@etczone.com>

"our next student experimental satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear
transponder like the early AMSATS
with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m." 

Sounds cool. Looking forward to giving it a try. 

(I missed the early birds. I'm old enough to have used them, but just
wasn't into it at the time.) 

Steve AI9IN 

On 2016-06-29 15:28, Robert Bruninga wrote:

> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.

> Expand, please.

The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval
Academy's
last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be
amateur or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.

Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m
and 70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.
FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth).  Note, we CANNOT get
an "Experimental license" from the FCC, because it is true, that our
institution is Federal.  But when  our students build an Amateur
Satellite, it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is
OPERATED.

Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in
support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our
fingers
crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.

To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental
satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early
AMSATS
with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.

We walk a fine line...  In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment
has
to have some educational value to DOD.  In order for us to be able to
build something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it
needs
to be amateur.   So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,
we NAILED-IT!

The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite
Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF
satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite
Service where there will be plenty of "users" to exercise it.

So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and
what we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.

Again, fingers crossed.  This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.

LESSON LEARNED:  Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control
operator get involved in the paper work.  He files the paperwork and he
takes the responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.

Bob, WB4APR
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun 29 20:35:23 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:35:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium,
	Bruchsal, Germany
Message-ID: <9DDEC896CB8A465E9EC27D2B690C1FEF@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium, Bruchsal, Germany on 01 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:31 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between OR4ISS and DN1JKG. The contact should be audible over Germany and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

The Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium is one of the biggest schools of general education in the administrative district of Karlsruhe 

in Baden-Wurttemberg. More than 1,300 students are taught by over one hundred teachers. 

Our focus is on a scientific profile with the succession of languages being English-French or English-Latin. Furthermore, 

science and technology is a major subject starting in year 8. About 85% of our students opt for this profile.

For four years now the Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium has been one of 44 model schools in Baden-Wurttemberg which allow students 

to take their A-levels at different speeds - either after eight or nine years of secondary education. 

The Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium is also participating in three different educational pilot projects. In the last two years 

leading up to their A-levels, students may take up Mathematics "plus" (an enhanced version of the subject Mathematics, 

six lessons a week) or computer science as a major subject as well as science and technology as a minor subject. 

Additionally, there are optional subjects for senior students, such as for example psychology, philosophy, drama, and 

especially natural sciences like geology, computer algebra, computer science, and astronomy. 

The Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium cooperates with partners in various fields, especially the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT).

In 2015 the town of Bruchsal organized the "Heimattage Baden-W?rttemberg" (Homeland Days of Baden-W?rttemberg). 

The Justus Knecht-Gymnasium took part in different projects, e.g. "Heimat Erde" (Homeland Earth). Students of different 

years worked on the topic. Moreover there's a study team working together with the amateur radio operators of Bruchsal. 

They established radio communication, built a stratosphere balloon and prepared the radio link to the ISS.

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1.  Welcoming speech in English and Russian) Is the space debris a threat for 

    the ISS?

2.  How long does it take to return to earth in case of emergency?

3.  What do you do with the time saved due to time dilatation?

4.  Do you feel the temperature differences between inside and outside during 

    a spacewalk?

5.  When will it be possible to realize a mission to Mars in your opinion?

6.  How do you lubricate mechanical parts against friction in space?

7.  How many calories do you need per day?

8.  Do you play dart in space?

9.  Have you ever realized experiments with flying animals like birds on the 

     ISS?

10.  In which way does the 90 minute-day-night-change  influence your life on 

     board?

11.  Are you floating in your dreams, too? 

12.  How do you recycle your water on board? 

13.  Which buildings can you see from above?

14.  Are you able to see polar lights from above?

15.  Which animals are living currently on board?

16.  Do you miss the weather on the ISS?

17.  What do you think about planet earth from high above?

18.  Did you wear a life vest or parachute during your flight to the ISS?

19.  What do you do in your spare time?

20.  Did you get medical training during your preparation on earth?

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

Science Museum of Virginia, Richmond, Virginia, telebridge via VK5ZAI

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ

Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-07-06 14:28:20 UTC 

 

 

 

      

 

ABOUT ARISS                                                             

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Wed Jun 29 20:50:07 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:50:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOouKnECPFmc0Kmgh4A_yLwn=bmnEo3sYyA9_HzNrcCrJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B26C88C-464B-4CF7-82B4-4025F0E2B110@kl7cn.net>
	<CABzOSOouKnECPFmc0Kmgh4A_yLwn=bmnEo3sYyA9_HzNrcCrJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3DD9A968-AA8F-4CD7-A69A-F74F51C88971@kl7cn.net>

Mode K is awesome!

But, it seems more "old style ham radio-y" than using VHF/UHF gear -- big-ish gear, big antennas. I was thinking about how someone with a Raspberry Pi and a VHF/UHF module would use Mode K -- my HackerLab crowd.

Like I said: Yay. More satellites.

But I sure would like to see something more modern-feeling that would appeal to the Maker/DIY/Rasperry Pi crowd.

But, see #1. :)

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net

On Jun 29, 2016, at 13:00, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

Mode K was pretty popular back with RS-12/13! The Doppler shift is
minimal enough at those frequencies that any normal HF transceiver in
split mode will work fine.

The neat thing is the potential for subhorizon access to the satellite.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Bryan Green <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> 1. Yay. More satellites.
> 
> 2. HF? Really? Huh.
> 
> 3. Net-net: see 1.
> 
> -- bag
> 
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> bryan at kl7cn.net
> 
> On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:28, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> 
>>>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>>>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
>> 
>>> Expand, please.
>> 
>> The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's
>> last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
>> Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be
>> amateur or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.
>> 
>> Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m
>> and 70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.
>> FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth).  Note, we CANNOT get
>> an "Experimental license" from the FCC, because it is true, that our
>> institution is Federal.  But when  our students build an Amateur
>> Satellite, it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is
>> OPERATED.
>> 
>> Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in
>> support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our fingers
>> crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.
>> 
>> To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental
>> satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early AMSATS
>> with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.
>> 
>> We walk a fine line...  In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment has
>> to have some educational value to DOD.  In order for us to be able to
>> build something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it needs
>> to be amateur.   So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,
>> we NAILED-IT!
>> 
>> The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite
>> Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF
>> satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite
>> Service where there will be plenty of "users" to exercise it.
>> 
>> So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and
>> what we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.
>> 
>> Again, fingers crossed.  This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.
>> 
>> LESSON LEARNED:  Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control
>> operator get involved in the paper work.  He files the paperwork and he
>> takes the responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.
>> 
>> Bob, WB4APR
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From plaws0 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 20:51:46 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:51:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
In-Reply-To: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ8nSK-7JrMKkg0U0OqRUz1sogvHg-p7KUdVen_GsQMa9g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
>
> The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's
> last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
> Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be
> amateur or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.


Ugh.  Thanks for the explanation, though.




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Wed Jun 29 20:58:23 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:58:23 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
In-Reply-To: <577305D8.9030302@charter.net>
References: <25950095.1467129371777.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<577305D8.9030302@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUckkTaw5ii04QUeEJ_1noDsaCdW+tEfzeOJmckGJD4jAg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

When it comes to being creative in the face of little or no access
to equipment, one example to remember is how Hector - CO6CBF
at the time in 2012 and 2013, now also W5CBF - scrounged to get
equipment and parts together to work satellites. For Hector in
2012 living in Cuba, even a $30 Baofeng radio was out of reach -
nobody sells them in Cuba, and with a monthly income for most
Cubans around US$20 to US$25/month even that radio is a luxury.

If you'd like to see what Hector did to put together his station,
he gave a presentation at the 2012 AMSAT Symposium in Orlando.
The video of his presentation is at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eocmIubIBQ4

The slideshow that was displayed on the screen during Hector's
2012 talk is available at:

http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~bklofas/Presentations/AMSAT
-NA_Symposium2012/Martinez_Cuban_Homebrew.pdf

This is ingenuity and creativity taken to a high level, out of
necessity.

Hector gave another presentation at the 2013 AMSAT Symposium
in Houston on a slightly different topic. You can see that video at:

?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH5Gb_dmuGs

and the slideshow is at:

http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~bklofas/Presentations/AMSAT
-NA_Symposium2013/Martinez_FUNcube_School_Support.pdf

I am sensitive to hams who say that costs are an issue when
trying to get on the satellites. I also remind myself, and other
hams, that there are ways to get on the air when someone wants
to make it happen.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK








On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net> wrote:

> I know full well what it's like to be on a budget and not have a lot of
> disposable income to spend on radio. I'm not a wealthy person by any
> stretch of the imagination. I've known a few hams in my lifetime who could
> spend what they wanted when they wanted to on radio. Unfortunately, most of
> us are not that lucky.
>

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 29 21:01:26 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:01:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
In-Reply-To: <3DD9A968-AA8F-4CD7-A69A-F74F51C88971@kl7cn.net>
References: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B26C88C-464B-4CF7-82B4-4025F0E2B110@kl7cn.net>
	<CABzOSOouKnECPFmc0Kmgh4A_yLwn=bmnEo3sYyA9_HzNrcCrJw@mail.gmail.com>
	<3DD9A968-AA8F-4CD7-A69A-F74F51C88971@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqKbFD+Fv9KBPHtkr64PH8izsA_M2P+JkzCHBsmBazgAA@mail.gmail.com>

There have been several recently launched satellites that carry a
digital messaging system for amateur use - either a digipeater or
store and forward system. None have been fully documented to the
amateur satellite community or, as far as I can tell, been activated.

It's been an unfortunate trend that satellites are launched carrying
an amateur payload or with a system intended to be used by amateurs
after the primary mission has been completed and then we never hear
about it again. Mishaps and delays occur, but it's disappointing that
these groups don't see fit to keep the amateur community updated.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> Mode K is awesome!
>
> But, it seems more "old style ham radio-y" than using VHF/UHF gear -- big-ish gear, big antennas. I was thinking about how someone with a Raspberry Pi and a VHF/UHF module would use Mode K -- my HackerLab crowd.
>
> Like I said: Yay. More satellites.
>
> But I sure would like to see something more modern-feeling that would appeal to the Maker/DIY/Rasperry Pi crowd.
>
> But, see #1. :)
>
> -- bag
>
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> bryan at kl7cn.net
>
> On Jun 29, 2016, at 13:00, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> Mode K was pretty popular back with RS-12/13! The Doppler shift is
> minimal enough at those frequencies that any normal HF transceiver in
> split mode will work fine.
>
> The neat thing is the potential for subhorizon access to the satellite.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Bryan Green <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>> 1. Yay. More satellites.
>>
>> 2. HF? Really? Huh.
>>
>> 3. Net-net: see 1.
>>
>> -- bag
>>
>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>>
>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:28, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>>>>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
>>>
>>>> Expand, please.
>>>
>>> The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's
>>> last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
>>> Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be
>>> amateur or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.
>>>
>>> Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m
>>> and 70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.
>>> FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth).  Note, we CANNOT get
>>> an "Experimental license" from the FCC, because it is true, that our
>>> institution is Federal.  But when  our students build an Amateur
>>> Satellite, it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is
>>> OPERATED.
>>>
>>> Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in
>>> support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our fingers
>>> crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.
>>>
>>> To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental
>>> satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early AMSATS
>>> with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.
>>>
>>> We walk a fine line...  In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment has
>>> to have some educational value to DOD.  In order for us to be able to
>>> build something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it needs
>>> to be amateur.   So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,
>>> we NAILED-IT!
>>>
>>> The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite
>>> Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF
>>> satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite
>>> Service where there will be plenty of "users" to exercise it.
>>>
>>> So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and
>>> what we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.
>>>
>>> Again, fingers crossed.  This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.
>>>
>>> LESSON LEARNED:  Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control
>>> operator get involved in the paper work.  He files the paperwork and he
>>> takes the responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.
>>>
>>> Bob, WB4APR
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Wed Jun 29 21:24:23 2016
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:24:23 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3197.1467233908.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.3197.1467233908.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <2D5629CBC715453480F23066864996B9@Ron8300PC>

After looking through Hector's slideshow below, I was left with great awe. 
This slideshow should be seen by every high school radio club. High school 
students can be very resourceful when a high goal is in front of them, even 
though funds are tight, as they almost always are.

I think three of my favorite events in my ham radio "career" have been with 
three ARISS satellite events -- a middle school with MIR, an elementary 
school with ISS, and a high school when Richard Garriott W5KWQ, was on the 
ISS.

Kodos to Hector and to all who helped him. Again, I am in awe.

Ron W5RKN

------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:58:23 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>
To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Financial arguments about full duplex
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUckkTaw5ii04QUeEJ_1noDsaCdW+tEfzeOJmckGJD4jAg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi!

When it comes to being creative in the face of little or no access
to equipment, one example to remember is how Hector - CO6CBF
at the time in 2012 and 2013, now also W5CBF - scrounged to get
equipment and parts together to work satellites. For Hector in
2012 living in Cuba, even a $30 Baofeng radio was out of reach -
nobody sells them in Cuba, and with a monthly income for most
Cubans around US$20 to US$25/month even that radio is a luxury.

If you'd like to see what Hector did to put together his station,
he gave a presentation at the 2012 AMSAT Symposium in Orlando.
The video of his presentation is at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eocmIubIBQ4

The slideshow that was displayed on the screen during Hector's
2012 talk is available at:

http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~bklofas/Presentations/AMSAT
-NA_Symposium2012/Martinez_Cuban_Homebrew.pdf

This is ingenuity and creativity taken to a high level, out of
necessity.

Hector gave another presentation at the 2013 AMSAT Symposium
in Houston on a slightly different topic. You can see that video at:

?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH5Gb_dmuGs

and the slideshow is at:

http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~bklofas/Presentations/AMSAT
-NA_Symposium2013/Martinez_FUNcube_School_Support.pdf

I am sensitive to hams who say that costs are an issue when
trying to get on the satellites. I also remind myself, and other
hams, that there are ways to get on the air when someone wants
to make it happen.

73!

Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK


From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Wed Jun 29 22:24:47 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:24:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
In-Reply-To: <3DD9A968-AA8F-4CD7-A69A-F74F51C88971@kl7cn.net>
References: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B26C88C-464B-4CF7-82B4-4025F0E2B110@kl7cn.net>
	<CABzOSOouKnECPFmc0Kmgh4A_yLwn=bmnEo3sYyA9_HzNrcCrJw@mail.gmail.com>
	<3DD9A968-AA8F-4CD7-A69A-F74F51C88971@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <E075E490-E9FC-47B4-8182-841042D112BB@comcast.net>

Yes Mode K is very easy.  I worked many RS QSO's in CW with no problems at all.  Used two Kenwood TS-830's and a multi-band Fritzel Co. Wire antenna.  Only problem for me was that I had to report ever QSO with a "Soviet Bloc" country to the G2 office.  After a few weeks I just gave the spooks a copy of the logbook.

73
Dave
Ex-DA1BB


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 29, 2016, at 15:50, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> 
> Mode K is awesome!
> 
> But, it seems more "old style ham radio-y" than using VHF/UHF gear -- big-ish gear, big antennas. I was thinking about how someone with a Raspberry Pi and a VHF/UHF module would use Mode K -- my HackerLab crowd.
> 
> Like I said: Yay. More satellites.
> 
> But I sure would like to see something more modern-feeling that would appeal to the Maker/DIY/Rasperry Pi crowd.
> 
> But, see #1. :)
> 
> -- bag
> 
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> bryan at kl7cn.net
> 
> On Jun 29, 2016, at 13:00, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Mode K was pretty popular back with RS-12/13! The Doppler shift is
> minimal enough at those frequencies that any normal HF transceiver in
> split mode will work fine.
> 
> The neat thing is the potential for subhorizon access to the satellite.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Bryan Green <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>> 1. Yay. More satellites.
>> 
>> 2. HF? Really? Huh.
>> 
>> 3. Net-net: see 1.
>> 
>> -- bag
>> 
>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>> 
>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:28, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>>>>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
>>> 
>>>> Expand, please.
>>> 
>>> The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's
>>> last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
>>> Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be
>>> amateur or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.
>>> 
>>> Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m
>>> and 70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.
>>> FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth).  Note, we CANNOT get
>>> an "Experimental license" from the FCC, because it is true, that our
>>> institution is Federal.  But when  our students build an Amateur
>>> Satellite, it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is
>>> OPERATED.
>>> 
>>> Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in
>>> support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our fingers
>>> crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.
>>> 
>>> To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental
>>> satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early AMSATS
>>> with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.
>>> 
>>> We walk a fine line...  In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment has
>>> to have some educational value to DOD.  In order for us to be able to
>>> build something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it needs
>>> to be amateur.   So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,
>>> we NAILED-IT!
>>> 
>>> The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite
>>> Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF
>>> satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite
>>> Service where there will be plenty of "users" to exercise it.
>>> 
>>> So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and
>>> what we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.
>>> 
>>> Again, fingers crossed.  This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.
>>> 
>>> LESSON LEARNED:  Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control
>>> operator get involved in the paper work.  He files the paperwork and he
>>> takes the responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.
>>> 
>>> Bob, WB4APR
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>> 
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Jun 29 22:26:17 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:26:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
In-Reply-To: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1d98b27e7a967c4a2a426b2aca57338a@mail.gmail.com>

> How big and or heavy will this 15/10 bird be?

A small cubesat.  To support a linear transponder takes a lot of power.  We
might have to leave it off at night.  Not sure until we do the analysis.
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:28 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Cc: bruninga at usna.edu
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
satellites)

>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.

> Expand, please.

The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's
last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be amateur
or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.

Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m and
70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.
FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth).  Note, we CANNOT get an
"Experimental license" from the FCC, because it is true, that our
institution is Federal.  But when  our students build an Amateur Satellite,
it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is OPERATED.

Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in
support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our fingers
crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.

To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental
satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early AMSATS
with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.

We walk a fine line...  In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment has to
have some educational value to DOD.  In order for us to be able to build
something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it needs
to be amateur.   So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,
we NAILED-IT!

The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite
Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF
satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite
Service where there will be plenty of "users" to exercise it.

So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and what
we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.

Again, fingers crossed.  This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.

LESSON LEARNED:  Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control operator
get involved in the paper work.  He files the paperwork and he takes the
responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.

Bob, WB4APR

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Jun 29 22:32:06 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:32:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
In-Reply-To: <1d98b27e7a967c4a2a426b2aca57338a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f08d89014758a73f067b4a3caf336750@mail.gmail.com>
	<1d98b27e7a967c4a2a426b2aca57338a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOq27369WGC7H1Q2+k-SpEVrYpzq94-zQA8YsWYJ4inaNg@mail.gmail.com>

AO-73 is a 1U cubesat and power positive with a 20 kHz wide linear
transponder at about 300 mW PEP. With a 10m downlink, you have less
path loss to contend with than on 2m (but more loss through the
ionosphere), but I'd think it would be doable if the passband is kept
relatively narrow and the power output low.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
>> How big and or heavy will this 15/10 bird be?
>
> A small cubesat.  To support a linear transponder takes a lot of power.  We
> might have to leave it off at night.  Not sure until we do the analysis.
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:28 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB
> Cc: bruninga at usna.edu
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
> satellites)
>
>>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.
>
>> Expand, please.
>
> The FCC had held up our Advance Notice (API) filing on the Naval Academy's
> last 5 Amateur Satellites (2 in orbit!) in a disagreement over whether
> Amateur Satellites built by students at the Service Academies can be amateur
> or must operate under NTIA rules in Federal Bands.
>
> Since the 5 satellites all had 2-way ham-user transponders on them on 2m and
> 70cm, the NTIA disagreed and said it was an FCC part 97 operation.
> FCC said it had to be Federal (and back and forth).  Note, we CANNOT get an
> "Experimental license" from the FCC, because it is true, that our
> institution is Federal.  But when  our students build an Amateur Satellite,
> it does not matter who built it, what matters is how it is OPERATED.
>
> Finally, I think the paperwork was accepted by the FCC for OPERATION in
> support of users in the Amateur Satellite Service and we have our fingers
> crossed that they will forward the API Notices to the ITU.
>
> To avoid any recurrence of this debate, our next student experimental
> satellite will be a bent-pipe HF linear transponder like the early AMSATS
> with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.
>
> We walk a fine line...  In order for DOD to launch it, the experiment has to
> have some educational value to DOD.  In order for us to be able to build
> something useful and economical at the undergraduate level, it needs
> to be amateur.   So by proposing an HF transponder for our next project,
> we NAILED-IT!
>
> The Feds have NO SATELLITE allocations in HF, but the Amateur Satellite
> Service does. Therefore if they want to let us learn anything about HF
> satellites, then they have to let us operate it in the Amateur Satellite
> Service where there will be plenty of "users" to exercise it.
>
> So it will be a 100% amateur radio satellite for all hams worldwide and what
> we learn from it will have value to understaning HF satellites.
>
> Again, fingers crossed.  This would be a 2018 satellite at the earliest.
>
> LESSON LEARNED:  Don't let anyone but the Amateur Satellite Control operator
> get involved in the paper work.  He files the paperwork and he takes the
> responsibility for ON/OFF command as required by the FCC.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Jun 30 00:21:32 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:21:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 on AMSATDroid
Message-ID: <e3c0ebf707a1672348792c57ac8ed6fd@etczone.com>

I put the AMSATDroid free app on my Samsung smartphone (I'm new at this
high tech stuff), but I can't find AO-85 listed on the app. Does AO-85
have an alternate designation or is it just not covered by AMSATDroid? 

Steve AI9IN

From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Jun 30 00:46:25 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:46:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 on AMSATDroid
In-Reply-To: <e3c0ebf707a1672348792c57ac8ed6fd@etczone.com>
References: <e3c0ebf707a1672348792c57ac8ed6fd@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOomD0K3ztP_qqXziWx47ivncctyQBUqYANEnCgyoi76qg@mail.gmail.com>

Select the AMSAT source rather than CelesTrak. Due to AO-85's launch as a
secondary payload on a classified mission, CelesTrak doesn't have the keps
in their database.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> I put the AMSATDroid free app on my Samsung smartphone (I'm new at this
> high tech stuff), but I can't find AO-85 listed on the app. Does AO-85
> have an alternate designation or is it just not covered by AMSATDroid?
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open
> forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From wa4sca at gmail.com  Thu Jun 30 00:49:49 2016
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan Biddle)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:49:49 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 on AMSATDroid
In-Reply-To: <e3c0ebf707a1672348792c57ac8ed6fd@etczone.com>
References: <e3c0ebf707a1672348792c57ac8ed6fd@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <57746caf.46f00d0a.5fae.fffff110@mx.google.com>

Use the AMSAT.ORG Keps.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


From: skristof at etczone.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 7:21 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 on AMSATDroid

I put the AMSATDroid free app on my Samsung smartphone (I'm new at this
high tech stuff), but I can't find AO-85 listed on the app. Does AO-85
have an alternate designation or is it just not covered by AMSATDroid? 

Steve AI9IN
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Jun 30 00:57:29 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:57:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 on AMSATDroid
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FfyOw440E4HrnhiH-F+vf8qOubrXfO-UyzQxXCXsJ_Low@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e3c0ebf707a1672348792c57ac8ed6fd@etczone.com>
	<CAEMY9FfyOw440E4HrnhiH-F+vf8qOubrXfO-UyzQxXCXsJ_Low@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <267d094a0361f3a9dc06da67dfcaa7f5@etczone.com>

A big THANK YOU! for all the quick replies. "Update Keps" --> "Amateur"
took care of it. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-06-29 20:34, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:

> Hit MENU then select Update Keps and choose Amateur (amsat.org [1]) 
> 
> Dave-KB1PVH
 

Links:
------
[1] http://amsat.org

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Jun 30 04:37:35 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 00:37:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] My first video from the July 2015 ISS SSTV event (and
 thank you to Dog Park Software)
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPwdyOjj3KFJou0Fk8rqr7j1JH02nJQVTYJj_VZOngvXQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PJJixog12A

"One ISS SSTV Image @ 1 A.M. @ 1 Degree"

This is the first video uploaded where I used the full version of
MacDoppler for satellite tracking screen captures. Before that I was
using the trial version, and before that I was using Orbitron on
Windows. I found that MacDoppler has a better looking map than
Orbitron.

Thank you to Don Agro, VE3VRW of Dog Park Software for providing the
full license for me to use in Space Comms videos.

https://www.dogparksoftware.com
https://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacDoppler.htm

If you liked this video please subscribe to me on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1

Filmed on July 19th, 2015 in Raleigh, North Carolina.

73,

John Brier KG4AKV

From g0mrf at aol.com  Thu Jun 30 10:07:13 2016
From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 06:07:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
	satellites)
Message-ID: <155a0c6d551-595b-3d50@webprd-a10.mail.aol.com>

Hi Paul / Bob

We are fortunate with AO-73, If I recall correctly, it is power positive in all modes except "Loopback" where it does drain the battery if left on 24/7

Elipse detection was our key to success. However, we have come to realise that an adjustable timer that allows a satellite to charge for X minutes after entering sunlight
provides much more control over long term management of the power budget and battery life. - Another lesson learned.

Thanks

David  G0MRF 


AO-73 is a 1U cubesat and power positive with a 20 kHz wide linear
transponder at about 300 mW PEP. With a 10m downlink, you have less
path loss to contend with than on 2m (but more loss through the
ionosphere), but I'd think it would be doable if the passband is kept
relatively narrow and the power output low.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
>> How big and or heavy will this 15/10 bird be?
>
> A small cubesat.  To support a linear transponder takes a lot of power.  We
> might have to leave it off at night.  Not sure until we do the analysis.
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:28 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB
> Cc: bruninga at usna.edu
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
> satellites)
>
>>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.


From jim at milnet.uk.net  Thu Jun 30 10:47:06 2016
From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:47:06 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2016 Information
Message-ID: <E7927373A55C46988D0A28EAD1D7031A@jimPC2>

Hi Folks,

  Pls see below for details of our Colloquium this year

73s Jim G3WGM Hon Sec AMSAT-UK



AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2016

This year?s Colloquium is now only a few weeks away. The event, taking place as usual at the Holiday Inn in Guildford, will be held over the weekend of the 29/31st July.

A full programme of presentations, covering all aspects of the amateur satellite world, has been developed for the Saturday and Sunday and a ?Beginners Session? is scheduled for the Friday afternoon. Sessions will include updates on the many new satellites that are expected to be launched over the next few months. This includes Eshail-2 which will carry the first ever geostationary amateur radio transponder and provide more than 8MHz of new intercontinental spectrum - it will provide coverage to five continents. Additionally we will have a session on how to develop software receivers using GNU radio, reviews of the Tim Peake ARISS contacts and the STEM results achieved, information about a new 76GHz satellite project, a review of how to operate ?in the field? and lots more.

As well as the presentations during the day, Libby Jackson, from the UK Space Agency, with whom the ARISS UK team worked closely during the Tim Peake mission, will be speaking during the Gala Dinner on the Saturday evening.

Other highlights will include visits to the SSTL facilities (Friday evening and Saturday morning) and the opportunity to see the special ground station equipment that was used for all the ARISS contacts. This will be available for use for contacts during passes of all the available satellite transponders.

Visitors can either turn up on the day, book day passes on the website or, if planning an overnight stay, now is the last week to make their hotel bookings at the preferential rate and which have been block-booked by AMSAT-UK. The URL for the AMSAT-UK shop to book day passes is http://shop.amsat-uk.org. If you wish to book overnight accommodation, please contact the hotel direct on 01483 784413.  Please note that due to problems with their booking system THE HOTEL WILL KEEP OUR RESERVED ROOMS UNTIL 6 JUL. Day passes cost ?10 per day (incl tea/coffee, etc) , please pay at the AMSAT-UK shop (not hotel reception). If you wish to attend the Gala dinner on Saturday, please book at least 7 days in advance, either with the hotel (by booking dinner, bed, and breakfast), or at the AMSAT-UK shop.

As well at the AMSAT-UK shop, there will be a number of specialist suppliers present, and we are hoping that the RSGB bookshop will also be present

Members and non-members will be made very welcome and booking info can be found here https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/

The Colloquium team are looking forward to meeting many old friends and making many new acquaintances during the event. 

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Jun 30 14:20:46 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:20:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] DOD and FEMA Hams?
Message-ID: <b06b26e0fa8632da7a08a2abdc001010@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to build a list of HAMS that work for FEMA or DOD or other
federal agencies as a resource to refer to when trying to show the value
of Amateur Radio.

We are all very much aware of the huge number of volunteers.  That list
would be "huuuge" and unmanageable... but in this case I'm wanting to
build a list of only those actually employed there. (or so influential
that their inclusion is demanded).

Please respond directly to bruninga at usna.edu

No, I am NOT militarizing the hobby, just trying to reach out to others in
similar work environments.  Its always nice to have friends in the right
places.   Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
> ... our next student experimental satellite will be a bent-pipe
> HF linear transponder... with uplink on 15m and downlink on 10m.

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 30 14:33:38 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:33:38 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Little Girl that lives aboard AO-85
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ_trXb9kVmG4K68-Q11pCnL5cNYFWw6NfAQBnyHCqsXdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Who is she and why did she announce her presence the other evening?
(~0300 UTC Wednesday / 2200 CDT Tuesday)  For me, it was right
about/after AOS but I'm sure she wasn't talking solely for my benefit.
Mode change?  Reboot?  Desperate plea for help?

Peter

-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Jun 30 14:43:22 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:43:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Little Girl that lives aboard AO-85
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ_trXb9kVmG4K68-Q11pCnL5cNYFWw6NfAQBnyHCqsXdQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ_trXb9kVmG4K68-Q11pCnL5cNYFWw6NfAQBnyHCqsXdQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqqbAYygW6NgJ9WuFFAcTb=rS6Wt8VyLYL6Udw0vGkCsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,

The voice is that of Veronica Monteiro, the daughter of Tony Monteiro,
AA2TX (SK), former AMSAT VP Engineering and principle designer of the
Fox satellites. The voice beacon "Hi, this is amateur radio satellite
Fox-1" is transmitted when the transponder has not been keyed up for
three minutes. The subaudible telemetry is also transmitted while the
beacon is active, allowing ground stations to collect telemetry when
there are no users on the satellite.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Peter Laws <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Who is she and why did she announce her presence the other evening?
> (~0300 UTC Wednesday / 2200 CDT Tuesday)  For me, it was right
> about/after AOS but I'm sure she wasn't talking solely for my benefit.
> Mode change?  Reboot?  Desperate plea for help?
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 30 14:54:15 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:54:15 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Little Girl that lives aboard AO-85
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqqbAYygW6NgJ9WuFFAcTb=rS6Wt8VyLYL6Udw0vGkCsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ_trXb9kVmG4K68-Q11pCnL5cNYFWw6NfAQBnyHCqsXdQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOqqbAYygW6NgJ9WuFFAcTb=rS6Wt8VyLYL6Udw0vGkCsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ_GRoFY-Vv+RkPtrw6=wkrgG7mQW5BjxzObL5eTeQx7tg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> The voice is that of Veronica Monteiro, the daughter of Tony Monteiro,
> AA2TX (SK), former AMSAT VP Engineering and principle designer of the
> Fox satellites. The voice beacon "Hi, this is amateur radio satellite
> Fox-1" is transmitted when the transponder has not been keyed up for
> three minutes. The subaudible telemetry is also transmitted while the
> beacon is active, allowing ground stations to collect telemetry when
> there are no users on the satellite.


OK, so not trapped there being forced to watch bad movies. Phew.

I have to say, though, that I'm amazed that it had been quiet for 3
minutes!  :-)




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From n0jy at amsat.org  Thu Jun 30 17:55:42 2016
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:55:42 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Little Girl that lives aboard AO-85
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqqbAYygW6NgJ9WuFFAcTb=rS6Wt8VyLYL6Udw0vGkCsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ_trXb9kVmG4K68-Q11pCnL5cNYFWw6NfAQBnyHCqsXdQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOqqbAYygW6NgJ9WuFFAcTb=rS6Wt8VyLYL6Udw0vGkCsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <170ee9c0-f187-db37-e6a9-d97dae1d700d@amsat.org>

On 6/30/2016 09:43, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> The voice beacon "Hi, this is amateur radio satellite
> Fox-1" is transmitted when the transponder has not been keyed up for
> three minutes.
FWIW, that's two minutes after the hang timer (downlink) stops and every
two minutes thereafter until the hang timer is activated again by
receiving an uplink signal.  If the hang timer is activated during the
ID, the ID will stop.  Also in Safe Mode, the ID is every two minutes.
For those of you keeping score, it's actually about every 2 minutes 11
seconds from the start of the previous ID because the two minute timer
starts after the completion of the ~11 second ID.
Each ID whether Transponder Mode or Safe Mode contains one current
telemetry frame and one high or low telemetry frame, with the high/low
alternating each ID (Current/High, Current/Low, etc.)  There are no
experiment frames in the voice ID telemetry.  There is no voice ID in
Data Mode.
The first (current) telemetry frame is sent prior to the ID audio to
help ensure that it can be decoded if there are problems.  The voice ID
commences at the second (high or low) telemetry frame.
Each ID allows a second or so for the "Fox Tail" to come up to the
downlink frequency and then pauses about 1/2 second prior to beginning
the telemetry/announcement so that a "dead carrier" is transmitted for
Doppler sensing as part of an experiment that Douglas Quagliana KA2UPW/5
is working on in a future ground application.

Veronica will be present on all four of the Fox-1 FM satellite series.

Maybe we should have a contest or award, capture/transcribe all eight
Transponder Mode/Safe Mode voice IDs (they are all different, each of
the four Fox-1 FM satellites) for bonus recognition as a hard core
satellite nerd!     :-)

Jerry Buxton, N?JY


From kk5do at arrl.net  Thu Jun 30 18:00:13 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:00:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] field day statistics
Message-ID: <d77dcf55-2c53-544b-c507-c77e17ae4b30@arrl.net>

i was asked about some statistics for field day. usually in the journal 
article, i place about 3-4-5 years worth of data in there. i just 
created a page on the amsat.org site where you can peruse data back to 
2005 with regard to field day. sorry, i did not keep data prior to that. 
i will update it with 2016 data after we get all the results in.

http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5301

73...bruce

-- 

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From AJ9N at aol.com  Thu Jun 30 18:29:26 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:29:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-30 18:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <771a3.37d127b1.44a6bf05@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-06-30  18:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

The All-Russian Public Organization Radio And  Radiol?bitel?Stva "The 
Russian amateur radio Union", Ufa, Russia, direct via  RZ9WWB (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The  scheduled astronaut is Oleg Skripochka RN3FU
Contact is a go for Thu  2016-06-30 07:55 UTC

Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium, Bruchsal, Germany,  direct via DN1JKG
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The  scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ 
Contact is a go for: Fri  2016-07-01 08:31:23 UTC 74 deg

Science Museum of Virginia,  Richmond, Virginia, telebridge via VK5ZAI (***)
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be NA1SS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ  (***)
Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-07-06 14:28:20 UTC 77 deg  (***)

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**
The  next window to submit a proposal for an upcoming contact is now 
closed.   The window was open from 2016-02-15 to 2016-04-15 and would be for 
contacts  between 2017-01-01 and 2017-06-30.  

Check out the ARISS  website http://www.ariss.org/ or the ARRL website  
http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact for full details of future 
proposal  windows.  

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**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or  aj9n at aol.com.
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***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted. 
  

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***
Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being able  to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

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***
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the ISS?   
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete  
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.              

http://www.ariss-eu.org/  

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net  
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***
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121 
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 119 
Francesco  IK?WGF with  116

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The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date 
webpages  were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are additional 
ARISS  websites I need to know about, please let me know.

Note, all times  are approximate.  It is recommended that you do your own 
orbital prediction  or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school  events is 1064.
Each school counts as 1 event. 

Year Direct  %      Telebridge  %           Direct/    % Direct/  Total
Direct             Telebridge Telebridge Telebridge
2000   1     100.00   0           0.00        0           0.00      1
2001   25    59.52    17          40.48       0           0.00      42
2002   25    60.98    16          39.02       0           0.00      41
2003   29    74.36    10          25.64       0           0.00      39
2004   25    71.43    10          28.57       0           0.00      35
2005   37    67.27    18          32.73       0           0.00      55
2006   31    65.96    16          34.04       0           0.00      47
2007   51    68.00    24          32.00       0           0.00      75
2008   33    53.23    29          46.77       0           0.00      62
2009   57    47.11    62          51.24       2           1.65      121
2010   31    64.58    16          33.33       1           2.08      48
2011   86    69.35    38          30.65       0           0.00      124
2012   51    54.84    42          45.16       0           0.00      93
2013   46    49.46    40          43.01       7           7.53      93
2014   50    72.46    19          27.54       0           0.00      69
2015   41    58.57    26          37.14       3           4.29      70
2016   31    63.27    18          36.73       0           0.00      49

Grand 650    61.09    401         37.69       13          1.22      1064
Total


Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1029.
Each contact may have  multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Year Direct  %      Telebridge  %           Direct/    % Direct/  Total
Direct             Telebridge Telebridge Telebridge
2000   1     100.00   0           0.00        0           0.00      1
2001   25    59.52    17          40.48       0           0.00      42
2002   24    60.00    16          40.00       0           0.00      40
2003   29    74.36    10          25.64       0           0.00      39
2004   25    71.43    10          28.57       0           0.00      35
2005   36    66.67    18          33.33       0           0.00      54
2006   31    65.96    16          34.04       0           0.00      47
2007   51    68.00    24          32.00       0           0.00      75
2008   33    60.00    22          40.00       0           0.00      55
2009   57    47.11    62          51.24       2           1.65      121
2010   31    64.58    16          33.33       1           2.08      48
2011   78    67.24    38          32.76       0           0.00      116
2012   51    54.84    42          45.16       0           0.00      93
2013   45    50.56    40          44.94       4           4.49      89
2014   48    73.85    17          26.15       0           0.00      65
2015   37    61.67    22          36.67       1           1.67      60
2016   31    63.27    18          36.73       0           0.00      49

Grand 633    61.52    388         37.71       8           0.78      1029
Total


Total  number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

Please feel  free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++

QSL  information may be found at:  
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

ISS callsigns:   DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS,  GB1SS

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*


The  ARISS (a joint effort of AMSAT, the ARRL, NASA, the ARISS 
international  
partners including Canada, Russia, the European Partners, and Japan)  
operations 
team wishes to announce the following very tentative schedule for  ARISS 
school 
contacts.  This schedule is very fluid and may change at  the last minute.  
Remember that amateur radio use on the ISS is  considered secondary.  
Please 
check the various AMSAT and ARISS  webpages for the latest announcements.  
Changes from the last  announcement are noted with (***).  Also, please 
check 
MSNBC.com for  possible live retransmissions 
(http://www.msnbc.com/m/lv/default.asp).   Listen for the ISS on the 
downlink of 
145.8? MHz.

The crossband  repeater has been active at times.
The frequencies are uplink of 437.8? MHz  and downlink of 145.8? MHz.

For information about educational  materials available from ISS partner 
space 
Agencies, please refer to links  on the ARISS Frequently Asked Questions 
page.

If you are interested  in supporting an ARISS contact, then you must fill
in an application.   The ARISS operations mentor team will not accept a
direct request to support  an ARISS contact; the application must first be 
sent 
to the ARISS region  coordinator.

You should also note that many schools think that they  can request a
specific date and time. Once an application has been accepted  the ARISS 
mentors will work with the school to determine a mutually agreeable  date.

There are several ARISS web  sites:

English:  http://www.ariss.org/    Note  this is the new site location.
This site also has links to many other ARISS  sites:
http://www.ariss.org/other-ariss-websites.html

ARISS  France:  http://ariss.fr.free.fr/

ARISS Europe:   http://www.ariss-eu.org/  

ARISS Japan:   http://www.jarl.or.jp/ariss/  

Your completely filled out  application should be returned to the
nearest coordinating ARISS region if  your specific region is not
listed.  E-mail is the preferred method of  submitting an application.

Here are the email  addresses:
ARISS-Canada and all other countries not covered: fs882 at ncf.ca  
(Maurice-Andr? Vigneault VA2MA/VE3VIG)
ARISS-Europe:  school.selection.manager at amsat.it (Francesco De Paolis, 
IK0WGF)
ARISS-Japan  and all Region 3 countries:  iaru-r3 at jarl.or.jp (Keigo Komuro  
JA1KAB)
ARISS-Russia: n2ww at attbi.com (Valerie Agabekov  N2WW/UA6HZ)
ARISS-USA:  contact NASA at  JSC-TFS-ARISS at mail.nasa.gov


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*
Other  web sites that may be of interest include:

ARRL related  websites:
http://www.arrl.org/amateur-radio-on-the-international-space-station
http://www.arrl.org/ariss

============================================================================
===

AMSAT  related websites:
http://www.amsat.org

Latest ARISS  announcements and news  
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/ariss/

Successful school  list
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

============================================================================
===

NASA  related websites:

Main page: http://www.nasa.gov/

For  Educators:   http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/index.html

For Students:  http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/index.html
http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/teachingfromspace/students/ariss.h
tml  (instructions for US schools wanting to apply for a contact may be 
found  here)

For Media:  http://www.nasa.gov/audience/formedia/index.html

Teaching From  Space (TIF):  
http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/teachingfromspace/contact_tfs/index.html

============================================================================
===

The  ISS Fan Club website  is:
http://www.issfanclub.com

============================================================================
===

ON6SAT  has a website  at:
http://on6sat.com/links/
============================================================================
===


IRLP  website at:  
http://www.discoveryreflector.ca  
This site will  have the links for simulcast contacts that have IRLP and 
Echolink.   

Additional information may be found on the amsat.org calendar of  events 
for where to find the audio on EchoLink, IRLP and Shoutcast.  

============================================================================
===
Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contact
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
============================================================================
===

A  listing of ARISS related magazine articles:  
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf   
Currently the list includes articles from CQ, CQ VHF, QST, and The AMSAT  
Journal.  Please contact me directly if you have additional suggestions.  

============================================================================
===
Exp.  47 on orbit
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin
============================================================================
===

To  let you in on how tough it is to schedule contacts, here are some of 
the  constraints the ARISS mentors must work under: 
Each Increment is 26 weeks in  length. 

For any given expedition, we typically may not  schedule:
1. Anything the first 3 weeks.
2. During EVA weeks 
3. At  least 2 weeks prior to the Increment change. 
4. No contacts during meal and  exercise periods.
5. No contacts during post-sleep and pre sleep (before  ?8:?? UTC and after 
19:3? UTC)
6. Contacts on the day of Progress docking or  undocking are circumspect.


Mike Fincke KE5AIT and Gennady  Padalka RN3DT produced a video during their 
stay on Expedition 9. You can get  the QuickTime version (209MB) or the 
Windows Media version (152MB). These files  are huge, so only a broadband 
connection is recommended.     Thanks Mike and Gennady!   

QuickTime:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/Video/Expedition9Tour.mov
Windows  Media:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/Video/Expedition9tourwmv.wmv


Doug  Wheelock KF5BOC produced a YouTube  video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h73EYcyszf8

Gregory Reid  Wiseman KF5LKT is in a short YouTube  video.
http://youtu.be/5nLFNG-Njlo


A discussion on  Doppler correction and the ISS frequencies may be found  at

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

This  file was updated 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC


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***
ADDITIONAL  INSTRUCTIONS FOR AUDIO STREAMING THAT IS PROVIDED BY Verizon  
Business.
1.    Go to designated homepage  URL.
2.    Click on Audioconferencing.
3.     Click on Audio Streaming.
4.    Click on  Join.
5.    Enter conference meeting  number.
6.    Enter passcode (case sensitive) and there are 11  letters max.  
7.    Enter name.
8.     Enter email address.
9.    Enter company, use ARISS or AMSAT  if you want.
10.  Enter title (optional).
11.  Agree to  agreement policy.
12.  Click proceed.
13.  Wait for contact to  start.  If you are there too early, then you will 
probably hear  music.  Contact streaming should start approximately 6 
minutes before  AOS.

ADDITIONAL NOTES ON THE USE OF IRLP, ECHOLINK, and Webcast.  
IRLP website at: 
http://www.discoveryreflector.ca 
If using IRLP is  more convenient for you than using EchoLink, please  
connect to the  IRLP reflector 9?1?.  

The Discovery 9?1? Reflector also has  streaming audio available.  Once on
the main page, select ?audio  library? on the left sidebar.  The prompt
to join the audio stream is  posted at the top of this page.

More directly, you can go to  
http://www.discoveryreflector.ca:8???/listen.pls  

The audio  stream will be delayed. 

Additional information on the IRLP  Discovery Reflector requirements:
The use of the Discovery Reflector requires  that your audio player have 
ability to play a pls file.  Confirm that  your player has that file.  You 
should also confirm that port 8?8? is open  to allow the audio stream.

Here is how to check  Realplayer:
1.  Open up Realplayer
2.   Tools>Preferences>Content Media Types> click on Select located under  
the Manual button.  
You should see .pls as one of the accepted  files

Here is how to check Winamp:
1.  Open up  Winamp
2.  Options>preference>General preference>file  types
You should see pls as one of the accepted files

Additional  information may be found on the amsat.org calendar of events 
for where to find  the audio on EchoLink, IRLP and Shoutcast.

You can connect to the  AMSAT Conference Room server at node 1?1377.
Audio is also available at times  on the JK1ZRW server at node 2772?8. 
Please connect to the *JK1ZRW* server to  keep the load light on the *AMSAT* 
server.  This will ensure good audio  quality for all listeners.

For latest information on ISS - school  contact audio feeds into EchoLink, 
please check the AMSAT calendar of events  at:

http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/fieldops/events.php

Simulation  contacts are terrestrial contacts that provide training for the 
astronauts on  the use of the ARISS equipment before going on orbit.  

The  All-Russian Public Organization Radio And Radiol?bitel?Stva "The 
Russian amateur  radio Union", Ufa, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB (***)
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Skripochka  RN3FU
Contact is a go for Thu 2016-06-30 07:55 UTC

Proposed  questions generated by the "The Russian amateur radio Union" 
students:  (***)

1. ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ?????? ? ????????????? ?????
 ?????  ?????? ?? ??????? ????????
????? ????????????????
As from space looks like  Russia and Bashkortostan? What place Russia from 
space looks the most  attractive?
2. ??????? ????? ? ????? ?? ?????? ??????
How many hours per  day you need to sleep?
3. ?????? ?? ????????? ???????? ?????????????? ?  
????????????
How difficult is it for the human organism to adapt to  weightlessness?
4. ??? ?????????? ????????? ????
How do astronauts take a  shower?
5. ???? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ??????? ? ????????
What do you miss  most in space?
6. ????? ? ??? ??? ????? ????????????? ?????? ?? ????? 
 ???????
What was the most extreme case during the flight?
7. ??? ??  ????????????? ?????????? ? ????????? ??????
What do you prefer to study in  your spare time?
8. ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ?.?. ????????? ????????
  ???????? ? ???????? ? ?????
??????????????? ?????. ? ?? ??? ? ??? ??  ????????. ???
 ?? ?????? ??????? ????? ???????? ? ??? ? 2017 ?????
Last year  we invited Mikhail Kornienko to visit Bashkiria and visit our 
Aerospace school.  And he was with us at the opening. Who among your crew is 
ready to come to us in  the year 2017?
9. ??? ????? ??????? ? ??????????? ????????
What is the  most delicious in the space diet?
10. ??????????? ?? ?? ????? ????? ???????  ????????? ?
???????????
Did you advise your children choose a profession  "Cosmonaut"?
11. ? ??? ?? ??????????? ? ???????, ? ???? ?? ????  
???????
What have you encountered in space, for which you were not  ready?
12. ??? ????? ??? ??????? ????????????? ? ??????? ?????
?
How often  do you talk with your family members
13. ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??????????  ???????????? ? 
???????????????? ???????????? ?????????
How does the ISS moves  away from a possible collision with a large "space 
debris"?
14. ?????? ??  ????????? ?? ??? ? ???? ?????????? 
??????? ? ??? ??? ????????????
Are there  any conflicts on the ISS during the long flights and how they 
are  resolved?

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Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium,  Bruchsal, Germany, direct via DN1JKG
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled  to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact is a  go for: Fri 2016-07-01 08:31:23 UTC 74 deg

Proposed questions  generated by the Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium students: 
1. Is the space debris a  threat for the ISS?
2. How long does it take to return to earth in case of  emergency?
3. What do you do with the time saved due to time  dilatation?
4. Do you feel the temperature differences between inside and  outside 
during a spacewalk?
5. When will it be possible to realize a mission  to Mars in your opinion?
6. How do you lubricate mechanical parts against  friction in space?
7. How many calories do you need per day?
8. Do you  play dart in space?
9. Have you ever realized experiments with flying animals  like birds on 
the ISS?
10. In which way does the 90 minute-day-night-change  influence your life 
on board?
11. Are you floating in your dreams, too?  
12. How do you recycle your water on board? 
13. Which buildings can you  see from above?
14. Are you able to see polar lights from above?
15. Which  animals are living currently on board?
16. Do you miss the weather on the  ISS?
17. What do you think about planet earth from high above?
18. Did you  wear a life vest or parachute during your flight to the ISS?
19. What do you  do in your spare time?
20. Did you get medical training during your  preparation on  earth?

======================================================================
Science  Museum of Virginia, Richmond, Virginia, telebridge via VK5ZAI (***)
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is  Jeff Williams KD5TVQ (***)
Contact is a go for: Wed 2016-07-06 14:28:20 UTC  77 deg (***)

Proposed questions generated by the Science Museum of  Virginia students: 
1. When did you first want to become an astronaut?
2.  What is the coolest part of Earth to look at?
3. How frequently do you  contact the NASA?
4. What's the most useful item/small tool on the space  station?
5. What is your primary role on the ISS?
6. What do you do for  fun on the station?
7. What's one of the more difficult adjustments to living  in space?
8. What happens when you sneeze in zero gravity?
9. How do you  get exercise on the ISS?
10. How do you do laundry on the ISS?
11. What is  the most fascinating part of the ISS?
12. How do you deal with waste on the  space station?
13. Do astronauts have trouble with germs carried up from  Earth?
14.  Was it hard to adjust to living in the space station?
15.  What does it smell like in the Space Station, and what smell do you 
miss most  from Earth?
16. What are some big misconceptions about living in  space?
17. What are the more fun zero gravity experiments that you do?
18.  Does everyone get to go on a spacewalk at some point?
19. What are some new  advantages to having BEAM as a part of the space 
station?
20. Are there any  upcoming experiments or missions that you're looking 
forward  to?

============================================================================
===
ISS  R&D Conference, San Diego, CA, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
Frontiers  of Flight Museum's ?Moon Day 2016?, Dallas TX, direct via WA5CKF
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
United  Space School, Seabrook TX, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
YOTA  Camp 2016 IARU-R1, Salzburg, Austria, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC

Proposed questions generated by the YOTA Camp 2016 IARU-R1:  
1. How will the ISS contribute to future Space exploration?
2. Is there  daily maintenance onboard the ISS?
3. Will there be future expansions of the  ISS?
4. What is it like to do Amateur Radio from the ISS?
5. What's your  favourite thing to do on the ISS?
6. Can you access the internet in your free  time?
7. Do you never get scared of the distance between you and Earth?
8.  How do the astronauts communicate with each other on the ISS, via  
intercom?
9. How do you do the laundry in Space?
10. Is everybody ham  radio licensed onboard the ISS?
11. Is there any backup power supply on the  ISS or is it only working on 
solar power?
12. When you communicate with a  groundstation your signal will suffer from 
Doppler shift. Who does take care of  frequency correction?
13. When you travel so fast onboard the ISS, time  should pass slower than 
on Earth. Can you measure it?
14. Do you encounter  interference from other electrical devices with your 
radio onboard?
15. Why  do you lose radio contact during reentry into the atmosphere?
16. Do you have  a smartphone onboard?
17. Can you detect pollution of radio frequency  spectrum from above? 
18. Is there a difference in air pollution above  different continents of 
earth?
19. Do you use software defined radio  technology onboard?
20. Do you have animals onboard the  ISS?

======================================================================  
Peoria Riverfront Museum, Peoria IL, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
Daisen Elementary School, Saihaku-gun, Japan, direct via TBD
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
ESA Space Camp 2016, Lenk, Switzerland, telebridge via TBD
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD UTC

Proposed questions generated by the ESA Space Camp  2016 students: (***)
1. If one astronaut is very ill, can a "space-ambulance"  be sent to bring 
the astronaut back to earth?
2. How do you clean the air of  the ISS
3. I would like to know if a person with severe hearing problem who  is 
equipped with the cochlear implant, like me, is able to become astronaut.  
Thank you.
4. Once you are in the ISS, which part of the Earth you like the  most to 
fly over and why?
5. What physical changes do you notice with your  body whilst you are in 
space?
6. Is it necessary to have medical knowledge to  become Astronaut? Because 
you shall give yourself an injection!
7. Since the  astronauts on board of ISS see many sunrises and sunsets 
every day, how do they  cope with sleeping and day/night cycles?
8. What is the most interesting  thing on Earth that you have seen from 
space?
9. What is going through your  mind during launch?
10. For how long do the supplies in food and oxygen last  on board the ISS?
11. In case of a vital emergency issue inside the ISS that  requires the 
evacuation of the ISS, which are your escape options? Was it ever  used for 
real in the past?
12. How do you feel when you go to work outside  the space station?
13. If you knew that going to space was dangerous, why did  you decide to 
go?
14. What is the first thing you want to do when you arrive  back to Earth?
15. When you go out of the station to repair something for  instance, what 
would happen if the cable connecting to the ISS break? What does  the crew 
in the station have to do to avoid that you go in deep space?
16.  Have you ever thought of the dangers that can happen in your space  
missions?
17. What is the most exciting part of the travel to the ISS?
18.  What do you typically do during your free time at ISS ? And do you 
ever get  bored?
19. How much sport do you have to practice to keep muscle tonus and  avoid 
bones degradation?
20. Do the astronauts onboard the ISS have the meals  together?
21. Have you ever felt loneliness or have you ever been afraid of  staying 
outside in the space?
22. What happens if an astronaut gets a cavity  (toothache) when at the  
Station?
======================================================================  
Space Jam 10, Rantoul IL, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
Sacred Heart Primary School, New Taipei City, Taiwan, R.O.C, direct via  TBD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled  astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
OK2KJT  Radioclub, Valasska Polanka, Czech Republic, direct via OK2KJT
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
U.S.  Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville AL, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign  is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC

Proposed questions generated by the U.S. Space & Rocket  Center students:
1. What was your favorite subject in school?
2. What was  your toughest subject in school?
3. Who were your heroes growing up?
4.  What is something you learned at Space Camp you are using in space?
5. What  advice would you give a student who wants to become an astronaut?
6. What  advice would you give to someone at Space Camp this week?
7. Were you afraid  when your rocket launched?
8. What was the hardest thing in astronaut  training?
9. How often do you talk to your family?
10. Do you speak  Russian with the Russian cosmonauts?
11. What does it smell like on the  ISS?
12. What is the coolest thing that you have seen in space?
13. What  is your favorite food to eat in space?
14. What medical research are you  working on while you?re on the Space 
Station?
15. What other cool research  projects are you helping with?
16. As a researcher, do you think NASA?s  biological space research will 
one day lead to a cure for diseases like HIV or  cancer?
17. Do you work with research projects from other countries?
18.  What do you think is the biggest effect on an astronaut?s body from 
long-term  spaceflight?
19. How will research on the Space Station help us get ready to  go to  
Mars?

======================================================================
Kopernik  Observatory & Science Center, Vestal NY, direct via K2ZRO
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
City  Montessori School, Lucknow, India, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be TBD 
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indianapolis IN, direct via  N9DR
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled  astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence KS, direct via KC?NFL
The ISS callsign  is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
C.E.PR.  Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ  or TBD
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC

Proposed questions generated by the C.E.PR. Almad?n  students:
1. When you were child, have you ever dreamt to be an  Astronaut?
2. What do I have to study to be an Astronaut?
3. What do you  feel when you see so far the Earth from the space?
4. How is the outer space?  Is it nice?
5. What kind of work do you do in the ISS, and what is the  purpose?
6. What was the most dangerous mission that you have  confronted?
7. What is the ISS speed?
8. How many times does the ISS spend  to turn around the Earth?
9. How is a common day in the Station?
10. Have  you ever seen an UFO, or any strange object?
11. How do you get water and  oxygen on ISS?
12. Are there meteorites dangerous for you?
13. What is the  most beautiful experience have you ever had at Space?
14. What happen if the  Space suit breaks during EVA?
15. How is the Earth seen from the ISS during  the night?
16. How are your meals and foods in the Space?
17. What  difficulties do you have for your personal hygiene?
18. Is it possible to see  the ISS from the Earth?
19. At this moment where is situated the ISS?
20.  What problems could you have when you come back to the  Earth?

============================================================================
===
South  Street School, Danbury CT, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
Yamanashi Gakuin J. H. School, Kofu, Japan, direct via TBD
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
Sekolah Kebangsaan Jalan Pasar 1, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, direct via  9M2RPN
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled  astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
iSPACE,  Cincinnati OH, telebridge via TBD 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to  be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
University  of Nebraska's Peter Kiewit Institute, Omaha NE, telebridge via 
TBD
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
Istituto  Comprensivo ?Marco da Melo?, Mel, Italy, direct via I3XFY
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
Howell  L. Watkins Middle School, Palm Beach Gardens FL, direct via W4JKJ
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
miSci,  Schenectady NY,  direct via W2IR 
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
======================================================================John  
Glenn Middle School, Maplewood MN, direct via K?JDD
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
Liceo  Artistico Sello, Udine, Italy, direct via IW3QKU
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
Boca  Raton Christian School, Boca Raton FL, direct via N4BRF 
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
Col?legi  Asuncion de Ntra. Sra., Barcelona, Spain, telebridge via TBD 
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is  TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
Private  Salesian High School named of St. Dominic Savio, Wroclaw, Poland 
and Scuola  Secondaria di Primo Grado ?Niccol? Pisano?, Marina di Pisa, 
Italy; Combined  telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The  scheduled astronaut is TBD
TBD  UTC
============================================================================
===
Coll?ge  Michel Lotte, Le Palais, France, telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is Thomas Pesquet  KF5FYG
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
Coll?ge Jean Charcot, Saint Malo, France, telebridge via TBD
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is Thomas  Pesquet KF5FYG
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
Maristes  High School, Toulouse, France, direct via F8IDR
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Thomas Pesquet  KF5FYG
TBD  UTC
======================================================================  
Ecole Communale de Saint Sylvestre, Saint Sylvestre, France, direct via  TBD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled  astronaut is Thomas Pesquet KF5FYG
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
Coll?ge  Saint-Guibert, Gembloux, Belgium and Euro Space Center, Transinne, 
Belgium;  Combined telebridge via TBD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  TBD
The scheduled astronaut is Thomas Pesquet KF5FYG
TBD  UTC
======================================================================
Currently  the ARISS operations team has a list of 60 schools that we 
hope will be able  to have a contact during 2016.   As the schedule becomes 
more  solidified, we will be letting everyone know.  Current plans call for 
an  average of one scheduled school contact per week.

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors  


From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Thu Jun 30 21:35:42 2016
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 22:35:42 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur
	communicationsatellites)
In-Reply-To: <155a0c6d551-595b-3d50@webprd-a10.mail.aol.com>
References: <155a0c6d551-595b-3d50@webprd-a10.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <0F4EB3AE39774544B94E22EDA2D64937@allgood.local>

Hi All,

Just to expand on David's comments.

The AO73 "Loopback" Mode is an AO16 type  FM in and DSB out mode. It is 
intended only to be used in event that our on-board microprocessor dies! We 
have never done it but i guess that if were to run the high power telemetry 
continuously then this would be also power negative over an orbit.

The first thing that I always check on the Data Warehouse is that (in the 
sun) the "total photo current number" is higher than the "total system 
current" number. This positive situation has been achieved in part by 
running the on-board oscillators at very low currents. This has resulted in 
some unwanted temperature dependency of their performance. However the 
internal temperatures on this 1U spacecraft vary by some 25C each orbit so 
it is perhaps to be expected.

You will note that UKube-1 which has a similar FUNcube sub-system is more 
stable as the internal temperatures, it being a 3U spacecraft, only vary by 
approx 6C each orbit.. Please be aware that
Nayif-1, expected to be launched late this year uses much more stable 
oscillator chains but that this has only been achieved at the cost of them 
being more power hungry. We will have to wait and see how the power budget 
actually works out in orbit.

We do have a capability to set both FUNcube-1 and Nayif-1 spacecraft to only 
switch autonomously to operate in transponder mode every "x" orbits/eclipses 
with an adjustable ratio of "receive only" eclipse periods. On FUNcube-1 we 
have never had to implement this (outside the test lab). If we do get to 
middle age with lower battery capacity and  lower solar panel efficiency 
then we have this as an available option or "workaround".

We are quite proud of the number of different use cases that we thought up 
and satisfied during the early design phase. We considered all manner of 
different possible power and temperature scenarios. Hopefully most will 
never be needed.

73

Graham
G3VZV


-----Original Message----- 
From: David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:07 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org ; bruninga at usna.edu ; n8hm at arrl.net
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur 
communicationsatellites)

Hi Paul / Bob

We are fortunate with AO-73, If I recall correctly, it is power positive in 
all modes except "Loopback" where it does drain the battery if left on 24/7

Elipse detection was our key to success. However, we have come to realise 
that an adjustable timer that allows a satellite to charge for X minutes 
after entering sunlight
provides much more control over long term management of the power budget and 
battery life. - Another lesson learned.

Thanks

David  G0MRF


AO-73 is a 1U cubesat and power positive with a 20 kHz wide linear
transponder at about 300 mW PEP. With a 10m downlink, you have less
path loss to contend with than on 2m (but more loss through the
ionosphere), but I'd think it would be doable if the passband is kept
relatively narrow and the power output low.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> 
wrote:
>> How big and or heavy will this 15/10 bird be?
>
> A small cubesat.  To support a linear transponder takes a lot of power. 
> We
> might have to leave it off at night.  Not sure until we do the analysis.
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:28 PM
> To: AMSAT-BB
> Cc: bruninga at usna.edu
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] US barriers to orbit (Re: Amateur communication
> satellites)
>
>>> Within the US, when someone like Bob, WB4APR, tries to build amateur
>>> communication sats, he runs into needless obstacles from FCC and NTIA.

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