[amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations

[Arthur Feller]

My apologies for using old words with this young crowd.  Just be nice to each other, please.  I realize this is a very old problem, but please give it a try.

73, art…..
W4ART  Arlington VA






> On 27-Jun-2016, at 09:26 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Comity?   From Merriam-Webster:
> 
> "Our country soweth also in the field of our breasts many precious seeds, as
> . honest behavior, affability, comity, wrote English clergyman Thomas Becon
> in 1543. Becon's use is the earliest documented appearance of comity - a
> word derived from Latin comitas, meaning "courteousness" (and probably
> related to the Sanskrit word for "he smiles"). Comity is largely used in
> political and judicial contexts. Since 1862 comity of nations has referred
> to countries bound by a courteous relationship based on mutual recognition
> of executive, legislative, and judicial acts. And, in legal contexts, comity
> refers to the recognition by courts of one jurisdiction of the laws and
> judicial decisions of another.
> 
> Nah...too much of that lets the blowhards off the hook..
> 
> K7TRK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Arthur
> Feller
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: Michael
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
> 
> Can we make a modest effort at comity?  Be nice, folks.
> 
>> On 27-Jun-2016, at 09:04 PM, Michael <Mat_62 at charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I could care less whether you have ever uttered it or not in one of your
> live presentations.  It is printed in black and white in your handout. You
> just quoted it yourself. The minute you typed that phrase and began giving
> out handouts or telling people to print it out you became guilty of
> spreading ignorance as far as satellite operation is concerned. You are
> leading newbie sat operators down a path they should not be on. If one does
> not have the means to hear their own signal coming back from the bird so as
> to insure they are "making it there" then they should not be on the
> satellites. End of story.
>> Michael, W4HIJ
>> On 6/26/2016 11:37 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory"
> for working sats.
>>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered 
>>> the sentence to groups, "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - 
>>> PERIOD." My standard mantra for the easy FM birds  is all over the place:
>>> 
>>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, 
>>> where we can simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are 
>>> transmitting. Although this method is preferred, it is not mandatory: 
>>> Carefully monitor the downlink, and wait for a break in the conversations
> to announce yourself."
>>> 
>>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
> instructions.
>>> 
>>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons 
>>> why working full- duplex is preferable.
>>> 
>>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who 
>>> was aboard the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>>> 
>>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working 
>>> the easy birds, I am available. Just send me an email message.
>>> 
>>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>>> (909) 999-SATS
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