From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Thu Sep  1 00:30:53 2016
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:30:53 -0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] HIgh efficiency solar cells for cubesats
Message-ID: <201609010030.u810UsBY011034@mail41c28.carrierzone.com>

Bob,

That's very interesting curve.  Guessing for most home users its more 
cost effective to purchase more cells for increased power than paying 
more for higher efficiency.

I really don't recall what I paid for remote radio site solar power 
about 15 years ago.  I believe they were 30 to 50w panels and cost 
about $400.  Our first panels were made by Arco and Solar Electric 
(something) made the last ones we installed.

This was commercial mountain-top comm sites only reachable by 
helicopter about one month/year due to weather.  Our largest site was 
shared with State of Alaska who maintained a mw link from Kenai 
Peninsula to Kodiak Island (about 70 mi over water).  We had five 
radios, most of which were 5w but two had 30w amps (all 
FM).  Originally we used a battery bank rated at 10,800 AH at 13.2v 
(were air cells) which had to be replaced every three years.  But we 
installed a two panel solar charged system using two 100 AH 
deep-cycle batteries to supplement the fixed battery bank during 
roughly 6-months of high sunlight in the arctic summer.

We thought that would extend the main battery bank life to four years 
but it did not quite do it.  Energy use analysis was complicated by 
multiple users so our guess fell short.

Helicopter cost each year for one trip to the mountain ran $5,000 for 
40min flight one-way and standby time on the mountain while we worked 
(usually four hours).  After being stuck on the mountain for seven 
days in 40F-40mph winds in rain we decided to keep the helo on the 
mountain so we could get off quickly in event of bad wx which could 
develop in 15-min socking in the mountain top for long 
duration.  Winter had the shelter covered over under 15-20 foot of 
snow with winds upward of 200 mph.  Top of the mountain had 
year-round snow cover.

Nice to be retired <smile>

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Thu Sep  1 00:45:13 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 19:45:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
In-Reply-To: <bf6055f9-0925-53ee-558a-b913e76ee800@earthlink.net>
References: <CY4PR11MB19417B3CA1F0049DB8401EDED0E30@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
	<bf6055f9-0925-53ee-558a-b913e76ee800@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <227178251BEE4D79BCDDD4C4FA6D2DBB@AA5PKPC>

Let's not forget the IC-202S and IC-402 :-)

Glenn
AA5PK

-----Original Message----- 
From: James R. La Frieda
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:56 PM
To: Gerald Payton
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios

Hi Jerry,

Your IC-2730 can be used for satellites, and the same is true for those
of us-who have been licensed for over 60 years and who are now in our
mid to late 70's -

who are still using - for satellites- some of the earlier ICOM
multi-mode gear, such as the ICOM 211, ICOM 251A and ICOM 451A, which
are frequently  sold on

E-Bay. e.g. for $100 -to - $200 :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ICOM-IC-451A-430-MHz-MULTI-MODE-FM-SSB-CW-TRANSCEIVER-/381751947130?hash=item58e2306f7a:g:bigAAOSwxg5Xw2Op

And, some of us - who are in our late 70's- are still using the ancient
dual band, dual receive HT that is known as the Yaesu FT-470 for
satellites.

In sum, it's wonderful to be able to work satellites with a Yaesu HT and
ICOM multi-mode VHF/UHF transceivers that still work, even though they

are  over 40 years old.

All the Best,

73, Jim (N6MV)

On 8/31/2016 2:29 PM, Gerald Payton wrote:
> EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, what are the radios used for FIXED operations?  I have 
> my IC-2730, which I understand can be used, but wonder what other radio options are there out there.  Are the older 
> second-hand radios (hard to find) the answer?
>
>
> Any comments appreciated.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jerry  AB5R
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From simon at sdr-radio.com  Thu Sep  1 07:57:07 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:57:07 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB19417B3CA1F0049DB8401EDED0E30@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB19417B3CA1F0049DB8401EDED0E30@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <003401d20426$6fb29a90$4f17cfb0$@sdr-radio.com>

Jerry,

If you're adventurous you could use a SDR on receive (Airspy, SDRplay,
FUNcube, ...) and any radio which transmits the desired mode on 2m / 70cms.

Myself I'm using an Airspy / FT-991 combination, in a week or two it'll be
fully automated by the computer.

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald
Payton

EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, what are
the radios used for FIXED operations?  I have my IC-2730, which I understand
can be used, but wonder what other radio options are there out there.  Are
the older second-hand radios (hard to find) the answer? 


From oh2fqv at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 09:25:04 2016
From: oh2fqv at gmail.com (Jari A)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:25:04 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
In-Reply-To: <CAEVbYfmORJKsHudEQntk9o8DWMCKe5rM+RLerfhtRG17z2CrMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB19417B3CA1F0049DB8401EDED0E30@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAEVbYfmORJKsHudEQntk9o8DWMCKe5rM+RLerfhtRG17z2CrMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEVbYfkQVR_hiMb+eQ0bCcE4MNnPG26f5KuyToHL_1JHkDXP-g@mail.gmail.com>

Kenwood TS-711 (2m) and TS-811 (70cm). They has PC control possibility
Also TM-255 and TM-455 are good for basestation use, without external
control.

:Jari / OH2FQV

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Jari A <oh2fqv at gmail.com> wrote:

> Kenwood TS-711 (2m) and TS-811 (70cm). Also TM-255 and TM-455 are good for
> basestation use.
>
> :Jari / OH2FQV
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r at outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
>> EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, what
>> are the radios used for FIXED operations?  I have my IC-2730, which I
>> understand can be used, but wonder what other radio options are there out
>> there.  Are the older second-hand radios (hard to find) the answer?
>>
>>
>> Any comments appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jerry  AB5R
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
>

From wa4sca at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 15:00:27 2016
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:00:27 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Pad Test Explosion
Message-ID: <000201d20461$9393ee10$babbca30$@GMAIL.COM>

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/spacex-loses-rocket-200-million-satellite-in-test-fire-explosion

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA

-----------------------------------

Keep Calm and Carry On



From jefforybroughton at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 16:01:52 2016
From: jefforybroughton at gmail.com (jeffory broughton)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:01:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <CACm2je074NAXkupgfySb0VDKzEYDdb6G=vAYs_RtQad6Sd1xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACm2je3EKAotunpdq=3GzaRpRA_MjBYywt=jYJL4Wruf-uirbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je1DgtLxXQF9GWZB+LrXJP8rwt1uhYJX_z5e6d2uKk70fQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je2w_FHuN0EdP1=0Y9t8-XY9gdmcLBR8dnmvnPzyJ0uBsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je074NAXkupgfySb0VDKzEYDdb6G=vAYs_RtQad6Sd1xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>

I have had several FT 847 radios.Great low cost choice and works well with
satpc32.However ,for just a few dollars
More get a used IC910. Much better rx sens with a lower noise figure.Also
REAL
DNR circuitry.Make listening for long periods a pleasure,not so exhausting.
Also if you compare the specs of the IC910 and IC 9100 uhf and vhf
SECTIONS, you will see they are IDENTICAL!

jeff broughton

From on4cjq at telenet.be  Thu Sep  1 16:05:11 2016
From: on4cjq at telenet.be (on4cjq at telenet.be)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:05:11 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB19417B3CA1F0049DB8401EDED0E30@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB19417B3CA1F0049DB8401EDED0E30@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1962019414.257190125.1472745911033.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>

Hi Jerry

I'm active again on satellite a lot, using my old TS-790,most of the time manuel tuned, sometimes via pc. From time to time a change to TM255+455( which can be tuned via pc  homemade interface which is almost finished, or Yaesu FT290+FT790,both with add-on ampli's from +-25w,manuel tuned. 
Antennas in use: commercial 2m and 70cm crossyagis with pol.switch, homemade crossyagis for 2,70 and 23. Just looking what is best for rx AO-7 mode A.

Look for TS-2000, FT-847,FT817 with amsat interface(arrl),IC-910...

Good hunting.

73,

Jerry,ON4CJQ
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Gerald Payton" <gp_ab5r at outlook.com>
Aan: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Verzonden: Woensdag 31 augustus 2016 23:29:41
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios

EXCLUDING the radios used for portable and with handheld antennas, what are the radios used for FIXED operations?  I have my IC-2730, which I understand can be used, but wonder what other radio options are there out there.  Are the older second-hand radios (hard to find) the answer?


Any comments appreciated.


73,

Jerry  AB5R
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Thu Sep  1 16:17:17 2016
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:17:17 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACm2je3EKAotunpdq=3GzaRpRA_MjBYywt=jYJL4Wruf-uirbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je1DgtLxXQF9GWZB+LrXJP8rwt1uhYJX_z5e6d2uKk70fQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je2w_FHuN0EdP1=0Y9t8-XY9gdmcLBR8dnmvnPzyJ0uBsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je074NAXkupgfySb0VDKzEYDdb6G=vAYs_RtQad6Sd1xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fe20c928-7b8f-59a0-a1a7-02bee62adaac@pobox.com>

On 09/01/16 11:01, jeffory broughton wrote:
> I have had several FT 847 radios.Great low cost choice and works well with
> satpc32.However ,for just a few dollars
> More get a used IC910. Much better rx sens with a lower noise figure.Also
> REAL
> DNR circuitry.Make listening for long periods a pleasure,not so exhausting.
> Also if you compare the specs of the IC910 and IC 9100 uhf and vhf
> SECTIONS, you will see they are IDENTICAL!

I wouldn't focus on noise figure at the receiver, unless you happen to
have 1' of cable between the rig and your antenna. Instead, I'd put a
bias-T-powered LNA at the antenna to preserve your SNR (Friis formula).

Having recently built a U310-based LNA, I can say that a single night's
work of soldering and testing pays off well. Total parts cost was in the
$5 range.

I plan to build a new LNA based on a pHEMT just for fun. Only a couple
of bucks from Digikey. Why settle for 1.0dB when you can potentially get
0.25dB! :-)

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From gp_ab5r at outlook.com  Thu Sep  1 16:29:27 2016
From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:29:27 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
Message-ID: <MWHPR11MB195287B46198DA5564439508D0E20@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks ALL of you giving you comments and suggestions.  I kept a tally sheet to see which showed up the most.  Of course, it's like "which car do you like question."  (smile)  Seriously, your answers have been helpful.


Generally, I like a "table top" type radio as compared to the smaller mobile units.  That's just MY "druthers."


Zach, I appreciate you input on the FunCube Pro +.  I do not have one, but have played with the other cheaper types and several software packages.  Currently, I have settled with a SDRPlay RSP.  What is the advantage(s) of the FunCube dongle?


Again, thanks to everyone chipping in with their 2 cents.  It helps me, maybe others lurking.


73,

Jerry  AB5R

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Sep  1 16:43:08 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:43:08 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ DM23/DM24 on Saturday (3 September)
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUc_TAgQ=a7_dQaDU2Nq_YBsyM1nWPE9oRzj3La7HgXrJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I am planning a quick road trip on Saturday (3 September), but not to a
National Parks on the Air site like I have been doing during this summer.
Saturday's road trip will be to the DM23/DM24 grid boundary in western
Arizona. This location is north of the junction of Arizona routes 72 and
95, southeast of Parker. I have visited this location many times over the
past few years, and there is a paved road that leads up to the grid
boundary
(north of the intersection, south of railroad tracks). I plan on being out
there around 1630 UTC, which would be in time for an AO-73 pass. If not, I
may be able to try a very shallow FO-29 pass just before 1700 UTC. I
definitely plan on working the AO-85 passes at 1900 and 2040 UTC, among
other passes.

I will use APRS while on the road Saturday, with the call sign WD9EWK-9. My
travels, and my location at the grid boundary, should be visible on web
sites
like http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9 (among others). There is good APRS coverage in
central and western Arizona, thanks to the mountaintop digipeaters that
cover
much of this state. I won't run the APRS radio when on the satellites,
unless
I'm working digipeaters on NO-84 or (if it is on) the ISS.

Along with APRS, I will send updates during the day using my @WD9EWK Twitter
feed. If you do not use Twitter, you can still see my Twitter activity using
a web browser at: http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

I will upload my log to Logbook of the World after this trip. If anyone
would
like to receive a QSL card for working WD9EWK at the DM23/DM24 grid
boundary,
please e-mail me directly with the QSO details. If you are in the log, I
will
be happy to send you a QSL card.

Thanks in advance, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 16:45:21 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:45:21 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACm2je3EKAotunpdq=3GzaRpRA_MjBYywt=jYJL4Wruf-uirbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je1DgtLxXQF9GWZB+LrXJP8rwt1uhYJX_z5e6d2uKk70fQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je2w_FHuN0EdP1=0Y9t8-XY9gdmcLBR8dnmvnPzyJ0uBsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je074NAXkupgfySb0VDKzEYDdb6G=vAYs_RtQad6Sd1xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ8UMEhahUkZTQvbR6KvRWbythoOBxVaQB-XbkbaXTzMnA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:01 AM, jeffory broughton
<jefforybroughton at gmail.com> wrote:

> .However ,for just a few dollars More get a used IC910. Much better rx sens with a lower noise figure.Also
> REAL  DNR circuitry.


Thank you for validating my recent acquisition.  :-)

To get the Noise Reduction (and the auto notch filter) you have to
have at least one UT-106 DSP module installed (you can have one each
for Main and Sub bands).  Mine has one but I'll probably snag another
off eBay as they are pretty common (and much cheaper, for some reason,
than the UT-102 voice synth).




-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From k8bl at ameritech.net  Thu Sep  1 16:54:00 2016
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:54:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <fe20c928-7b8f-59a0-a1a7-02bee62adaac@pobox.com>
References: <CACm2je3EKAotunpdq=3GzaRpRA_MjBYywt=jYJL4Wruf-uirbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je1DgtLxXQF9GWZB+LrXJP8rwt1uhYJX_z5e6d2uKk70fQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je2w_FHuN0EdP1=0Y9t8-XY9gdmcLBR8dnmvnPzyJ0uBsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je074NAXkupgfySb0VDKzEYDdb6G=vAYs_RtQad6Sd1xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<fe20c928-7b8f-59a0-a1a7-02bee62adaac@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <1388930392.3486089.1472748840139@mail.yahoo.com>

AMSAT-BB Users.....
Just so you know, many E-Mail Spam Filters send messagesthat have the title "No Subject" directly into the Spam Foldersince there are so many Phishing Scams that use messageswithout titles.
So, if you want a lot of people to actually SEE your messages,then you always need to give them a TITLE. ? ?:-)
73, ? ? ?Bob ?K8BL

      From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 12:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
   
On 09/01/16 11:01, jeffory broughton wrote:
> I have had several FT 847 radios.Great low cost choice and works well with
> satpc32.However ,for just a few dollars
> More get a used IC910. Much better rx sens with a lower noise figure.Also
> REAL
> DNR circuitry.Make listening for long periods a pleasure,not so exhausting.
> Also if you compare the specs of the IC910 and IC 9100 uhf and vhf
> SECTIONS, you will see they are IDENTICAL!

I wouldn't focus on noise figure at the receiver, unless you happen to
have 1' of cable between the rig and your antenna. Instead, I'd put a
bias-T-powered LNA at the antenna to preserve your SNR (Friis formula).

Having recently built a U310-based LNA, I can say that a single night's
work of soldering and testing pays off well. Total parts cost was in the
$5 range.

I plan to build a new LNA based on a pHEMT just for fun. Only a couple
of bucks from Digikey. Why settle for 1.0dB when you can potentially get
0.25dB! :-)

--- Zach
N0ZGO
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From richard.siff at verizon.net  Thu Sep  1 17:18:54 2016
From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 13:18:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Pad Test Explosion
In-Reply-To: <000201d20461$9393ee10$babbca30$@GMAIL.COM>
References: <000201d20461$9393ee10$babbca30$@GMAIL.COM>
Message-ID: <E3DCC0821FCD4225B5F7FB13EC32F72F@BanjoPC>

I think at one time they were using surplus rocket engines.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Alan
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 11:00 AM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Pad Test Explosion

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/spacex-loses-rocket-200-million-satellite-in-test-fire-explosion

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA

-----------------------------------

Keep Calm and Carry On


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From jim at k6ccc.org  Thu Sep  1 17:14:48 2016
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:14:48 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] LNA
In-Reply-To: <fe20c928-7b8f-59a0-a1a7-02bee62adaac@pobox.com>
References: <CACm2je3EKAotunpdq=3GzaRpRA_MjBYywt=jYJL4Wruf-uirbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je1DgtLxXQF9GWZB+LrXJP8rwt1uhYJX_z5e6d2uKk70fQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je2w_FHuN0EdP1=0Y9t8-XY9gdmcLBR8dnmvnPzyJ0uBsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je074NAXkupgfySb0VDKzEYDdb6G=vAYs_RtQad6Sd1xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<fe20c928-7b8f-59a0-a1a7-02bee62adaac@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <2d608a939a0f48b4ad219f2e8cc7bfba@k6ccc.org>

 Zach - N0ZGO said (in part):
  > I plan to build a new LNA based on a pHEMT just for fun. Only a couple
> of bucks from Digikey. Why settle for 1.0dB when you can potentially get
> 0.25dB! :-)

  
 Next step will be the tank of liquid nitrogen.  How much lower can you 
go?
  
 Jim Walls
 K6CCC
    



From va6bmj at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 17:45:44 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:45:44 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Pad Test Explosion
In-Reply-To: <E3DCC0821FCD4225B5F7FB13EC32F72F@BanjoPC>
References: <000201d20461$9393ee10$babbca30$@GMAIL.COM>
	<E3DCC0821FCD4225B5F7FB13EC32F72F@BanjoPC>
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkPjJJfCo5yEB79X5X5vf06_rEAMf12ZUFUPrAZH_7b4Gw@mail.gmail.com>

The cause of the explosion is unknown right now, but it appears that
something happened on the pad:

http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/09/01/falcon-9-explosion-destroys-satellite-throws-spacex-launch-schedule-disarray/

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From wa4sca at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 17:55:05 2016
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:55:05 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Pad Test Explosion
In-Reply-To: <CAP7QzkPjJJfCo5yEB79X5X5vf06_rEAMf12ZUFUPrAZH_7b4Gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000201d20461$9393ee10$babbca30$@GMAIL.COM>
	<E3DCC0821FCD4225B5F7FB13EC32F72F@BanjoPC>
	<CAP7QzkPjJJfCo5yEB79X5X5vf06_rEAMf12ZUFUPrAZH_7b4Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d20479$f92151b0$eb63f510$@GMAIL.COM>

Video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BgJEXQkjNQ

RUD is at 1:10.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Sep  1 17:57:47 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:57:47 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Launch Pad Test Explosion
In-Reply-To: <E3DCC0821FCD4225B5F7FB13EC32F72F@BanjoPC>
References: <000201d20461$9393ee10$babbca30$@GMAIL.COM>
	<E3DCC0821FCD4225B5F7FB13EC32F72F@BanjoPC>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcnawJKoQKwZfQjnoZ+3bS5QPK+zigvG0pMvmhMTt+Pjw@mail.gmail.com>

Rich,

I think you may be confusing SpaceX with Orbital ATK, which
used surplus Russian/Soviet rocket engines on its Antares rocket
which exploded over Wallops Island in 2014. SpaceX has been
using engines of its own design for its rockets.

As for the explosion this morning, my office and I have been
watching a video of it. Alan WA4SCA just mentioned it, and here
is a link to it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BgJEXQkjNQ

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK




On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff at verizon.net>
wrote:

> I think at one time they were using surplus rocket engines
>

From w0jab at big-river.net  Thu Sep  1 17:40:53 2016
From: w0jab at big-river.net (John Becker)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:40:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <1388930392.3486089.1472748840139@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CACm2je3EKAotunpdq=3GzaRpRA_MjBYywt=jYJL4Wruf-uirbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je1DgtLxXQF9GWZB+LrXJP8rwt1uhYJX_z5e6d2uKk70fQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je2w_FHuN0EdP1=0Y9t8-XY9gdmcLBR8dnmvnPzyJ0uBsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je074NAXkupgfySb0VDKzEYDdb6G=vAYs_RtQad6Sd1xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<fe20c928-7b8f-59a0-a1a7-02bee62adaac@pobox.com>
	<1388930392.3486089.1472748840139@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <32f0a687-22eb-429e-a1f3-cfea712a08dc@big-river.net>



On 9/1/2016 11:54 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
> AMSAT-BB Users.....
> Just so you know, many E-Mail Spam Filters send messagesthat have the title "No Subject" directly into the Spam Foldersince there are so many Phishing Scams that use messageswithout titles.
> So, if you want a lot of people to actually SEE your messages,then you always need to give them a TITLE.    :-)
> 73,      Bob  K8BL
>

me for one.



From zmetzing at pobox.com  Thu Sep  1 18:20:33 2016
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:20:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LNA
In-Reply-To: <2d608a939a0f48b4ad219f2e8cc7bfba@k6ccc.org>
References: <CACm2je3EKAotunpdq=3GzaRpRA_MjBYywt=jYJL4Wruf-uirbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je1DgtLxXQF9GWZB+LrXJP8rwt1uhYJX_z5e6d2uKk70fQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je2w_FHuN0EdP1=0Y9t8-XY9gdmcLBR8dnmvnPzyJ0uBsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je074NAXkupgfySb0VDKzEYDdb6G=vAYs_RtQad6Sd1xLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACm2je0D6VKWC=J5QS-z5s-3AZ-m8hnnz4s8DnXQNJa6eKyBdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<fe20c928-7b8f-59a0-a1a7-02bee62adaac@pobox.com>
	<2d608a939a0f48b4ad219f2e8cc7bfba@k6ccc.org>
Message-ID: <513d4df2-5e7a-fc4a-35c4-d4061b7d7578@pobox.com>

On 09/01/16 12:14, Jim Walls wrote:
>  Zach - N0ZGO said (in part):
>   > I plan to build a new LNA based on a pHEMT just for fun. Only a couple
>> of bucks from Digikey. Why settle for 1.0dB when you can potentially get
>> 0.25dB! :-)
> 
>   
>  Next step will be the tank of liquid nitrogen.  How much lower can you 
> go?

*chuckle* Yep, "down the rabbit hole". N1BWT's noise paper is what got
me started down this path in the first place...

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Thu Sep  1 19:09:55 2016
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:09:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Florida Weak Signal Society] 10 meter satellite PSK
In-Reply-To: <B18F46D6E13644C7A4698C505AF1324A@m7480n>
References: <B18F46D6E13644C7A4698C505AF1324A@m7480n>
Message-ID: <5AAA166D-A74C-4EFE-9B64-09942D315C0F@mindspring.com>

NO-84 has a PSK transponder, 10m up and UHF FM down.

73, Drew KO4MA

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Don Hawbaker via FLWSS <flwss at flwss.net> wrote:
> 
> I was hearing a station on about 28118 KHz last night running PSK31 calling CQ satellite with drift, but since it says CQ satellite, I guess it could have been Doppler shift.  Anybody know how this could happen?
> _______________________________________________
> Website http://www.flwss.net
> 
> FLWSS mailing list
> FLWSS at flwss.net
> http://flwss.net/mailman/listinfo/flwss_flwss.net


From va6bmj at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 20:15:28 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 20:15:28 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] More On Falcon 9 Explosion
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkOD3QER2xM5UjQbEBnFQuQh_9HZq3MwthU0FJmAX6kRmA@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/09/01/elon-musk-falcon-9-explosion-originated-oxygen-tank-fueling/

Looking at the video of the explosion:

http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/09/01/video-spacex-falcon-9-explosion/

it appeared to me that the flash was centred near where the lines were
attached to the upper stage.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Sep  1 20:52:45 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:52:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Florida Weak Signal Society] 10 meter satellite PSK
In-Reply-To: <5AAA166D-A74C-4EFE-9B64-09942D315C0F@mindspring.com>
References: <B18F46D6E13644C7A4698C505AF1324A@m7480n>
	<5AAA166D-A74C-4EFE-9B64-09942D315C0F@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <5d1bb5192c13a6b2ce976e6bb727a1c2@mail.gmail.com>

Its more interesting that that too.

The reason the 28.118 MHz user uplink has Doppler on it, is because he is
using N0SM's pre-compensated Doppler uplink software.  See
http://aprs.org/psat.html

With this software, you can run your normal PSK31 software for monitoring
the 435.350 MHz FM downlink and run full duplex with N0SM's TX software
for your 28.1xx uplink.  And the uplink is pre-shifted for Doppler so that
everyone seeing the downlink will see your signal constant.

And since it is full duplex, you can be typing with comments to everyone
in the passband at the same time while watching their comments too.  Bob,
WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
Glasbrenner
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 3:10 PM
To: Florida Weak Signal Society
Cc: Bob Cutter via Amsat-Bb; Don Hawbaker
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [Florida Weak Signal Society] 10 meter satellite
PSK

NO-84 has a PSK transponder, 10m up and UHF FM down.

73, Drew KO4MA

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Don Hawbaker via FLWSS <flwss at flwss.net>
wrote:
>
> I was hearing a station on about 28118 KHz last night running PSK31
calling CQ satellite with drift, but since it says CQ satellite, I guess
it could have been Doppler shift.  Anybody know how this could happen?
> _______________________________________________
> Website http://www.flwss.net
>
> FLWSS mailing list
> FLWSS at flwss.net
> http://flwss.net/mailman/listinfo/flwss_flwss.net

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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Thu Sep  1 20:52:42 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:52:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Lewis and Clark National
	Historic Park, Astoria, OR
Message-ID: <752533EC4B494E2ABCB16A8EE45F708D@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR on 03 Sept. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 18:21 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and KF7TCG. The contact should be audible over the west coast of the U.S. and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

Thomas Jefferson was a scientist and a pioneer in many fields of study including biology, geography, meteorology, and ethnology.  Since at least 1793 he had been planning for an exploration of the largest remaining unexplored land on earth: the American West.  This resulted in the four pages of detailed instructions that he gave to Meriwether Lewis during their 1801-03 planning for the voyage of the Corps of Discovery.   The resulting 1804-06 U.S. Army expedition to explore along the Missouri and Columbia Rivers was led by Captains Meriwether Lewis and William Clark.  The 33 diverse members of the Corps spent the winter of 1805-06 at a campsite they built just a few miles from the mouth of the Columbia River and named after the local Clatsop Indians.  At Fort Clatsop, the captains planned for the return journey to the United States and worked on writing scientific descriptions of the plants and animals they'd encountered that were new to science (a total of 178 species of plants and 122 animals by the end of the trip).  Like President Thomas Jefferson and Captain Meriwether Lewis, today's astronauts have a curiosity for exploring beyond known frontiers.  

 

Some local students who have participated in various education programs at Lewis and Clark National Historical Park and live in surrounding Clatsop County have been learning about the International Space Station (ISS) and are hoping to have a brief radio conversation with an ISS astronaut.   All of these students live in Clatsop County and are familiar with the park through field trips, park summer camps, family visits, or education programs with rangers visiting their classrooms. The park connected with these students through four relationships: 

1. The Northwest Regional Educational Service District and the Astoria School District offer a migrant summer school to serve students who have moved within the last three years for their parent's work.  Several of these students participated in summer camps that the park offered and they were excited about the opportunity to learn about the International Space Station and talk with an astronaut.

2.  Three small local Girl Scout Troops (#10025, #10026, #10086) were interested in this opportunity as they have been focusing on the three keys to Girl Scouting which are Discovering, Connecting, and Taking Action.  The girls and their leaders were happy to incorporate this ARISS opportunity into their projects.

3.  The Fort Clatsop District of Boy Scouts includes local troop #509 and #542.  Since Scouting is about character development and having confidence in yourself to Be Prepared, the ARISS program is a good challenge for these youngsters.  Their district is named in honor of the 1805-06 winter encampment of the 33 people of the Lewis and Clark Expedition .

4.  Three of the youth recruited for this special program are children or grandchildren of Lewis and Clark National Historical Park rangers and were excited to learn that an astronaut radio conversation would be happening in their park.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1.  To prepare for his journey, Captain Meriwether Lewis was tutored by 

    experts in medicine, navigation, astronomy, mathematics, botany, and 

    paleontology.  What was the hardest part of your training?

2.  The Corps of Discovery enjoyed fiddle music, do you listen to music in 

    space? If so, what kind?

3.  How different does your body feel in microgravity and how long does it 

    take to adjust after arrival in the space station? 

4.  Lewis and Clark failed to find a Northwest Passage.  Have any of your 

    experiments failed or not gone like you wanted? 

5.  While wintering at Fort Clatsop, the Corps of Discovery made buckskin 

    clothes as their uniforms wore out. How many outfits of clothing do you 

    have with you, and what kind of material are they made from?

6.  Why do you like communicating with kids? 

7.  Meriwether Lewis treasured an ermine scarf he received from a Shoshone     

    chief.  Do you have a souvenir from space? If so, what is it? 

8.  Do you create art from the views from the space station? 

9.  When is your next spacewalk?  What is your favorite thing when you are 

    outside the space station? 

10.  Lewis brought his dog Seaman with him on the expedition. Are there any 

     research animals on the space station now? If so, what are they?

11.  Although most members of the Corps of Discovery were single, York and 

     John Shields had families at home. Do you miss your family, and how do 

     you communicate with them?

12.  Do you guys keep journal like Lewis and Clark did? 

13.  If a microorganism changed genetically on the International Space 

     Station would it be considered a space alien? 

14.  Were you in a scouting program as a child?  If so, did it affect your 

     desire to work in space? 

15.  Lewis and Clark played backgammon.  What games do you play? 

16.  When Sacagawea became sick, Lewis treated her. If you get hurt or sick, 

     who treats you?

17.  What are your space suits made of, and can they catch on fire?

18.  How do you protect your eyes when the space station is facing the sun?

19.  Are you doing any experiments with animals adapting to microgravity? 

20.  What does a shooting star or a meteor shower look like from space?

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

    1. Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence  KS, direct via KC?NFL

       The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS

       The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS 

       Contact is a  go for: Fri Sept 9, 2016 16:25 UTC 

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Thu Sep  1 21:12:48 2016
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 21:12:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Vs. AMSAT Predictions
References: <379484366.117123.1472764368249.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <379484366.117123.1472764368249@mail.yahoo.com>

SatPC32 Users,
While running WinAOS printouts for my upcoming Grid Expedition,
I checked them out versus the AMSAT On-Line Predictions to see
if they jibed. Upon comparison, I noticed a variation in AOS/LOS
and Azimuths. It isn't all that much, but sometimes I can be OCD
when I'm out in the hinterlands and I'm not hearing the Birds when
I think I should. The data I give each program are exactly the same.

It's more than likely that the two Programs use slightly different formulae
to make their calculations and that would account for the differences,
but I was just wondering.

As long as I'm wondering, I have a basic question. When I update the
Keps in PC32, do I choose Satellites nasa.all and Download Keps
www.amsat.........../nasa.all? ?Or, do I choose Satellites amateur.txt
and Download Keps www.celestrak.........amateur.txt? Or, can it be
a combination of the two, or doesn't it matter? ?AND, when I run the
Program, do I choose Satellites nasa.all or amateur.txt from the Source
Files listing? I'm easily confused at my age - HIHI.

TNX/73, ? ? ?Bob ?K8BL



?

From w1pa at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  1 21:37:26 2016
From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill Acito)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 21:37:26 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Satellite Radios
Message-ID: <MWHPR03MB30552563B075AE9F137EB32998E20@MWHPR03MB3055.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Icom 820H, 821


Bill W1PA

From g0iiq at outlook.com  Thu Sep  1 21:42:22 2016
From: g0iiq at outlook.com (David Pykett)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 21:42:22 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Radios
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR03MB30552563B075AE9F137EB32998E20@MWHPR03MB3055.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MWHPR03MB30552563B075AE9F137EB32998E20@MWHPR03MB3055.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <AMXPR05MB102881EE2A3C061EF435BBCFAE20@AMXPR05MB102.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>


Icom IC-9100 now but long time ago I used a Yaesu FT726 with all the modules

Dave G0IIQ


From my.callsign at verizon.net  Thu Sep  1 22:55:48 2016
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:55:48 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] amsat-bb] [Florida Weak Signal Society] 10 meter
	satellite PSK
Message-ID: <a67ce8db-ee91-1781-e6e6-ac0fda736553@verizon.net>

 From the text that you copied, I am certain what you saw was my CQ call 
thru the satellite NO-84.

The macro I use is as follows;

{
     "text": " cq  cq satellite MYCALL MYCALL "
}

This text would be sent continuously while calling CQ.  The satellite 
users rely on multi decoders for the downlink PSK-31. Each side of the 
contact or Keyboard QSO would be at a different frequency on the waterfall.

As Bob, WB4APR, mentioned, the PSK-31 signal is Doppler shifted by the 
program I use to transmit.  This signal will be skewed to the point it 
will be hard copy to a terrestrial station.  The opposite is also true, 
I am usually unable to copy more than short segment of terrestrial station.

I hope this was helpful.

Bob
KO6TZ
DM13rw



Its more interesting that that too.

The reason the 28.118 MHz user uplink has Doppler on it, is because he is
using N0SM's pre-compensated Doppler uplink software.  See
http://aprs.org/psat.html

With this software, you can run your normal PSK31 software for monitoring
the 435.350 MHz FM downlink and run full duplex with N0SM's TX software
for your 28.1xx uplink.  And the uplink is pre-shifted for Doppler so that
everyone seeing the downlink will see your signal constant.

And since it is full duplex, you can be typing with comments to everyone
in the passband at the same time while watching their comments too.  Bob,
WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
Glasbrenner
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 3:10 PM
To: Florida Weak Signal Society
Cc: Bob Cutter via Amsat-Bb; Don Hawbaker
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [Florida Weak Signal Society] 10 meter satellite
PSK

NO-84 has a PSK transponder, 10m up and UHF FM down.

73, Drew KO4MA

 > On Sep 1, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Don Hawbaker via FLWSS <flwss at flwss.net>
wrote:
 >
 > I was hearing a station on about 28118 KHz last night running PSK31
calling CQ satellite with drift, but since it says CQ satellite, I guess
it could have been Doppler shift.  Anybody know how this could happen?
 > _______________________________________________
 > Website http://www.flwss.net
 >
 > FLWSS mailing list
 > FLWSS at flwss.net
 > http://flwss.net/mailman/listinfo/flwss_flwss.net



From kb1hy2 at comcast.net  Thu Sep  1 23:48:05 2016
From: kb1hy2 at comcast.net (Peter Budnik)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:48:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
Message-ID: <7515E071BAD143529444494ACE75D69E@PeterPC>


From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  2 06:39:24 2016
From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 06:39:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference),
 St. Petersburg, FL, 9/16-18,
 Banquet Speaker & Sunday Seminar Announced and Technical Forums Finalizing
In-Reply-To: <1935907310.1840289.1471122024382@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<772806613.9311838.1470009632064.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1323047761.1633402.1470724270948.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1235231484.14098959.1470724394474.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1935907310.1840289.1471122024382@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <839408395.225099.1472798364561@mail.yahoo.com>



ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference)?
St. Petersburg, FL?
September 16 - 18, 2016

http://www.tapr.org/dcc#banquet

Saturday Night Banquet Speaker Announced?

Speaker:?
Brennan Price, N4QX?
ARRL CTO (Chief Technology Officer)

Topic:?
"New Frontiers in Wireless: Challenges to and Opportunities for Amateur Radio"


http://www.tapr.org/dcc#seminar

Sunday Seminar Announced?

Seminar Conducted by:?
Michelle Thompson, W5NYV?

Bob McGwier, N4HY
Chief Scientist, Hume Center for National Security and Technology as a Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering as well as Aerospace and Ocean Engineering

Topic:?
"Spectrum (It's the frequency crunch for real)"


http://www.tapr.org/dcc

DCC Technical Presentations
The DCC Technical Forum Schedule is being finalized, however a couple times slots may be available.?
If you would like to present a Technical Topic at the DCC, but haven't submitted a technical papaer in advance?please email the TAPR Office at: taproffice at tapr.org with the topic of your presentation.?
The Technical Forum schedule should be published soon.?

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Fri Sep  2 17:34:39 2016
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:34:39 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1
Message-ID: <0F176815975B4A73B4AB21ECC3D18889@allgood.local>

Hi All,

The transponder on AO73 is now on for the weekend!

73

Graham
G3VZV

From pa3guo at upcmail.nl  Fri Sep  2 17:47:39 2016
From: pa3guo at upcmail.nl (=?UTF-8?B?UEEzR1VP?=)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:47:39 +0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?q?Satellite_Radios?=
Message-ID: <1472838459.404644223@f30.my.com>


https://youtu.be/xFZGlqKPPQo
Gives an impression how such a small device performs (quite well!).
Henk PA3GUO

From DFox at rwglaw.com  Fri Sep  2 16:55:30 2016
From: DFox at rwglaw.com (D. Craig Fox)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:55:30 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Star Trek fans- off topic- but cool
Message-ID: <FE3B26F42CA36A4B976024BC0C5C57D6110D21518D@RWGLAEXCH1.RWG.COM>

Just a heads up to my sat ops friends who are also Star Trek fans. USPS has just issued Star Trek commemorative forever stamps.

https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=push&navCount=0&atg.multisite.remap=false&categoryId=buy-stamps&productId=S_474004

Thanks for indulging a Trekkie

73s

Craig
N6RSX

From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 00:22:40 2016
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 19:22:40 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
Message-ID: <CAEWsTrN+Ve3PpLQ5KAWaHRRQLfgE8mR1t+0DuXMQH_tjOy1NgA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I just got gifted a long holiday weekend and I plan to celebrate my free
time by trying to make some QSOs on the ISS digipeater and I was wondering
if NO-44 PCSAT was still active for AX.25 packet work during the daylight
hours?

Could someone give me the scoop on its activation status and if it is
active , if there is regular use of it during active times?


Thanks and at least keep a look out for me on the ISS and try to QSO if you
do see my packet being sent

Sean
AA0AN/EM29

From Saguaroastro at cox.net  Sat Sep  3 00:50:16 2016
From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 17:50:16 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
Message-ID: <06tygu53jtxobpm3dp5782rl.1472863816885@email.android.com>

Sean 

Not sure about NO-44, but NO-84 is functional on APRS packet. 

Depending on errands and honeyco's, I will try to work as many ISs & NO-44 Passes as I can. 

Look for K7TEJ-7 from DM33 (Phoenix area)

73


Rick Tejera K7TEJ
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.SaguaroAstro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org

On September 2, 2016, at 17:22, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I just got gifted a long holiday weekend and I plan to celebrate my free
time by trying to make some QSOs on the ISS digipeater and I was wondering
if NO-44 PCSAT was still active for AX.25 packet work during the daylight
hours?

Could someone give me the scoop on its activation status and if it is
active , if there is regular use of it during active times?


Thanks and at least keep a look out for me on the ISS and try to QSO if you
do see my packet being sent

Sean
AA0AN/EM29
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From k9jkm at comcast.net  Sat Sep  3 01:10:04 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 20:10:04 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
In-Reply-To: <CAEWsTrN+Ve3PpLQ5KAWaHRRQLfgE8mR1t+0DuXMQH_tjOy1NgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEWsTrN+Ve3PpLQ5KAWaHRRQLfgE8mR1t+0DuXMQH_tjOy1NgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006901d2057f$e7642090$b62c61b0$@net>

Hi Sean,

NO-44 is active only in sunlight ... with a caveat that it needs a good
illumination angle on its solar cells. I've been digipeated twice this week
via NO-44 on ascending passes over North America. I've had better luck with
NO-44 northbound up and out of the USA when it has been in sunlight long
enough. The downlink is weak and sounds a bit off frequency and FMing with
the strain but one or two digipeats are still attainable per pass. Watch
http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi for status. It is W3ADO-1 and
PCSAT-11 mixed in with all the PSAT messages on this page. Set UNPROTO CQ
VIA W3ADO-1.

NO-84 PSAT is active on packet. It seems it's downlink signal and wondering
perhaps it's receive sensitivity are gradually getting weaker compared with
signals a week ago. The downlink packet log at
http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi will show satellite digipeater
status (plus any packets you get digipeated). When you see PSAT]APRSON  it
means the NO-84 digipeater is active. Set UNPROTO CQ VIA ARISS for NO-84.

The status of ISS packet depends on the on-board activities. It was OFF
during the recent EVA. Packet seems to have been re-enabled until Tuesday's
undocking manueuvers. Watch http://www.ariss.net/ to see how recently
packets have been digipeated to guess it's status. Set UNPROTO CQ VIA ARISS
or UNPROTO CQ VIA RS0ISS (your preference, both work).

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of sean fay
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I just got gifted a long holiday weekend and I plan to celebrate my free
> time by trying to make some QSOs on the ISS digipeater and I was wondering
> if NO-44 PCSAT was still active for AX.25 packet work during the daylight
> hours?
> 
> Could someone give me the scoop on its activation status and if it is
> active , if there is regular use of it during active times?
> 
> 
> Thanks and at least keep a look out for me on the ISS and try to QSO if
you
> do see my packet being sent
> 
> Sean
> AA0AN/EM29
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 02:06:11 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 02:06:11 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkMu87hzdcn5QkS16BjYc1qQV1xqXkgF9ED_XeJAy71gpg@mail.gmail.com>

Amateur radio was part of this week's episode of AMC's "Halt and Catch Fire".

In the opening part, the character Gordon had set up his ham shack in
a closet in his house and he was fiddling with his transceiver.  He
says it was home-brew, but it was really an FT-101B, which I found
rather amusing.  I thought I recognized the radio and, when I looked
closely during the replay of that episode, the model number could be
clearly seen.

I'm sure his on-air manner would have branded him as a lid, unless
such behaviour was permitted 30 years ago when the episode is supposed
to be set.

One thing I found odd was that it sounded like he was operating AM as
I think he was on HF.  I remember when AM was common on those bands
where I grew up but that was during the mid-1960s.  I thought that by
the 1980s, SSB was the main voice mode.

He was having problems making contacts, and his wife suggested that
maybe a lot of hams were possibly on-line.  In the mid-'80s?  I'm not
so sure about that, even though there were dial-in services and
bulletin boards available back then (I was active on a CompuServe
space board at the time).  Even the use of the term "on-line" seems a
bit suspicious, as I don't recall it ever being used in those days.

Anyway, I thought it was interesting that amateur radio was part of
this week's story, despite some questionable details.  Unfortunately,
nothing about satellites.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From k8bl at ameritech.net  Sat Sep  3 03:00:33 2016
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 03:00:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio
In-Reply-To: <CAP7QzkMu87hzdcn5QkS16BjYc1qQV1xqXkgF9ED_XeJAy71gpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP7QzkMu87hzdcn5QkS16BjYc1qQV1xqXkgF9ED_XeJAy71gpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42931062.5308.1472871633378@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Bernhard,
I just checked that episode out on-line. It's Season 3,Episode 3. ?Yep, it's a Yaesu FT-101B like I had myselfmany years ago. ?It's funny that he has his shack in acloset just as I did in our first small house.
It's hard to tell what Mode he's in from the RX audio, butit looks like the switch is in the Tune position. HIHI ?A latershot shows a Bug Key next to the XCVR.
He's using the Call KC4L which is registered to a Hamin Gainesville, FL. I wonder if he knows that??
Thanks for the tip on the Show. ? ? 73, ? ? Bob ?K8BL

      From: B J <va6bmj at gmail.com>
 To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:06 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio
   
Amateur radio was part of this week's episode of AMC's "Halt and Catch Fire".

In the opening part, the character Gordon had set up his ham shack in
a closet in his house and he was fiddling with his transceiver.? He
says it was home-brew, but it was really an FT-101B, which I found
rather amusing.? I thought I recognized the radio and, when I looked
closely during the replay of that episode, the model number could be
clearly seen.

I'm sure his on-air manner would have branded him as a lid, unless
such behaviour was permitted 30 years ago when the episode is supposed
to be set.

One thing I found odd was that it sounded like he was operating AM as
I think he was on HF.? I remember when AM was common on those bands
where I grew up but that was during the mid-1960s.? I thought that by
the 1980s, SSB was the main voice mode.

He was having problems making contacts, and his wife suggested that
maybe a lot of hams were possibly on-line.? In the mid-'80s?? I'm not
so sure about that, even though there were dial-in services and
bulletin boards available back then (I was active on a CompuServe
space board at the time).? Even the use of the term "on-line" seems a
bit suspicious, as I don't recall it ever being used in those days.

Anyway, I thought it was interesting that amateur radio was part of
this week's story, despite some questionable details.? Unfortunately,
nothing about satellites.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Sat Sep  3 03:01:22 2016
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 20:01:22 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
In-Reply-To: <006901d2057f$e7642090$b62c61b0$@net>
References: <006901d2057f$e7642090$b62c61b0$@net>
Message-ID: <84bd38ca-55fe-0b1e-f3d7-fe113a716d1f@verizon.net>

JoAnne,

Recently I have noticed a drift in frequency on the PSK-31 transponder 
of NO-84 also. It seems to be going along with the higher temperatures 
that have been +27 to +30 C in recent days.  The voltage is also running 
higher than normal at 7.9x - 8.04V.

Bob
KO6TZ



 >NO-84 PSAT is active on packet. It seems it's downlink signal and 
wondering perhaps it's receive >sensitivity are gradually getting weaker 
compared with signals a week ago.

 >73 de JoAnne K9JKM


From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 03:11:30 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 03:11:30 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Off-topic, But Related To Amateur Radio
In-Reply-To: <42931062.5308.1472871633378@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAP7QzkMu87hzdcn5QkS16BjYc1qQV1xqXkgF9ED_XeJAy71gpg@mail.gmail.com>
	<42931062.5308.1472871633378@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkOmO7eFWwQ+rZfTgwR4fFuUv0wOFDC2uhbvP8gXE=X7zQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/3/16, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> Hi Bernhard,
> I just checked that episode out on-line. It's Season 3,Episode 3.  Yep, it's
> a Yaesu FT-101B like I had myselfmany years ago.  It's funny that he has his
> shack in acloset just as I did in our first small house.
> It's hard to tell what Mode he's in from the RX audio, butit looks like the
> switch is in the Tune position. HIHI  A latershot shows a Bug Key next to
> the XCVR.
> He's using the Call KC4L which is registered to a Hamin Gainesville, FL. I
> wonder if he knows that??
> Thanks for the tip on the Show.     73,     Bob  K8BL

You're welcome.  While we're at it, the opening scene in the movie
"Contact" starts with Ellie Arroway calling CQ and then making contact
with a station in Pensacola.  She figures she needs a bigger antenna
and then the scene changes to when she's an adult (played by Jodie
Foster) standing beside the dish at Arecibo.

Of course, she later goes on to make the ultimate DX catch, hi.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sat Sep  3 05:17:12 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 05:17:12 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM23/24 trip canxelled
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcHf2uiZip3HeJh1_0gsqOo2m1VZLAZh1L3-CqoRu6iOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

Due to a family issue, I have to cancel my plans to go out to the
DM23/DM24 grid boundary on Saturday. I apologize to those who
were hoping to work me out there. I may be able to go out there
next weekend, and will post more when I have a new plan to  go out
there.

73.





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 01:34:45 2016
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 20:34:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
In-Reply-To: <006901d2057f$e7642090$b62c61b0$@net>
References: <CAEWsTrN+Ve3PpLQ5KAWaHRRQLfgE8mR1t+0DuXMQH_tjOy1NgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<006901d2057f$e7642090$b62c61b0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEWsTrNVRCVaGN9raR3KrSviqnBtUaKsDVitO9MqFdvj=O8e3A@mail.gmail.com>

I knew it was off on the first and is supposed to be off on the 6th. It
looks like theres been some activity even just a few hours ago, so I'm
hoping.  I have been digipeated before and I am ready to make my first QSO.
  I run a wouxun kg-uvd1p 5w ht and a moblinkd tnc. I have an arrow II sat
handheld antenna and I use aprsdroid or aprsis/32 depending on what I want
to futz with. Now that I have been digipeated on both . I am planning on
using the aprsis/32 with autohotkeys to make my one handed typing a little
easier. I am gonna try the NO-84 and ISS this weekend. I did not know the
path was different for PCSAT NO-44 so I realllllllly appreciate it cause at
least now that I know that I wont be wondering why I had NO JOY if i had my
path set wrong the whole time.


Ill be AA0AN-7 so if your active and you see me. Message me please! cause
I'm gearing up for my packet based WAS.


On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
>
> NO-44 is active only in sunlight ... with a caveat that it needs a good
> illumination angle on its solar cells. I've been digipeated twice this week
> via NO-44 on ascending passes over North America. I've had better luck with
> NO-44 northbound up and out of the USA when it has been in sunlight long
> enough. The downlink is weak and sounds a bit off frequency and FMing with
> the strain but one or two digipeats are still attainable per pass. Watch
> http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi for status. It is W3ADO-1 and
> PCSAT-11 mixed in with all the PSAT messages on this page. Set UNPROTO CQ
> VIA W3ADO-1.
>
> NO-84 PSAT is active on packet. It seems it's downlink signal and wondering
> perhaps it's receive sensitivity are gradually getting weaker compared with
> signals a week ago. The downlink packet log at
> http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi will show satellite digipeater
> status (plus any packets you get digipeated). When you see PSAT]APRSON  it
> means the NO-84 digipeater is active. Set UNPROTO CQ VIA ARISS for NO-84.
>
> The status of ISS packet depends on the on-board activities. It was OFF
> during the recent EVA. Packet seems to have been re-enabled until Tuesday's
> undocking manueuvers. Watch http://www.ariss.net/ to see how recently
> packets have been digipeated to guess it's status. Set UNPROTO CQ VIA ARISS
> or UNPROTO CQ VIA RS0ISS (your preference, both work).
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of sean fay
> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:23 PM
> > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT NO-44 packet Active during daylight?
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I just got gifted a long holiday weekend and I plan to celebrate my free
> > time by trying to make some QSOs on the ISS digipeater and I was
> wondering
> > if NO-44 PCSAT was still active for AX.25 packet work during the daylight
> > hours?
> >
> > Could someone give me the scoop on its activation status and if it is
> > active , if there is regular use of it during active times?
> >
> >
> > Thanks and at least keep a look out for me on the ISS and try to QSO if
> you
> > do see my packet being sent
> >
> > Sean
> > AA0AN/EM29
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 01:39:23 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 01:39:23 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Star Trek fans- off topic- but cool
In-Reply-To: <FE3B26F42CA36A4B976024BC0C5C57D6110D21518D@RWGLAEXCH1.RWG.COM>
References: <FE3B26F42CA36A4B976024BC0C5C57D6110D21518D@RWGLAEXCH1.RWG.COM>
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkOY7Dg2y1m66KgpGf5=-0rrGjDG5oHmjhuKym9iOnwbcQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/2/16, D. Craig Fox <DFox at rwglaw.com> wrote:
> Just a heads up to my sat ops friends who are also Star Trek fans. USPS has
> just issued Star Trek commemorative forever stamps.
>
> https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.jsp?categoryNav=false&navAction=push&navCount=0&atg.multisite.remap=false&categoryId=buy-stamps&productId=S_474004
>
> Thanks for indulging a Trekkie

<snip>

So has Canada Post:

https://www.canadapost.ca/web/sites/en/pages/startrek/default.page

William Shatner. James Doohan, and John Colicos (who played a Klingon
in one episode) were from Canada.  (Was the stamp for Spock included
because of Vulcan, Alberta, hi.)

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From dan at post.com  Sat Sep  3 18:04:02 2016
From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 19:04:02 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Lewis and Clark National
 Historic Park, Astoria, OR
In-Reply-To: <752533EC4B494E2ABCB16A8EE45F708D@DHJ>
References: <752533EC4B494E2ABCB16A8EE45F708D@DHJ>
Message-ID: <CAF3DnKhvuRT_5M=CfgRjUV2oRxd5w1VUhR56xXy1T1kGXuUH2A@mail.gmail.com>

This event is streaming LIVE NOW at:
https://www.facebook.com/LewisandClarkNationalHistoricalPark/
Contact is in 20 minutes at 18:21UTC today.

On 01/09/2016, n4csitwo at bellsouth.net <n4csitwo at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
> participants at Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR on 03
> Sept. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 18:21 UTC. The
> duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The
> contact will be direct between NA1SS and KF7TCG. The contact should be
> audible over the west coast of the U.S. and adjacent areas. Interested
> parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is
> expected to be conducted in English.
>
>
>
> Thomas Jefferson was a scientist and a pioneer in many fields of study
> including biology, geography, meteorology, and ethnology.  Since at least
> 1793 he had been planning for an exploration of the largest remaining
> unexplored land on earth: the American West.  This resulted in the four
> pages of detailed instructions that he gave to Meriwether Lewis during their
> 1801-03 planning for the voyage of the Corps of Discovery.   The resulting
> 1804-06 U.S. Army expedition to explore along the Missouri and Columbia
> Rivers was led by Captains Meriwether Lewis and William Clark.  The 33
> diverse members of the Corps spent the winter of 1805-06 at a campsite they
> built just a few miles from the mouth of the Columbia River and named after
> the local Clatsop Indians.  At Fort Clatsop, the captains planned for the
> return journey to the United States and worked on writing scientific
> descriptions of the plants and animals they'd encountered that were new to
> science (a total of 178 species of plants and 122 animals by the end of the
> trip).  Like President Thomas Jefferson and Captain Meriwether Lewis,
> today's astronauts have a curiosity for exploring beyond known frontiers.
>
>
>
> Some local students who have participated in various education programs at
> Lewis and Clark National Historical Park and live in surrounding Clatsop
> County have been learning about the International Space Station (ISS) and
> are hoping to have a brief radio conversation with an ISS astronaut.   All
> of these students live in Clatsop County and are familiar with the park
> through field trips, park summer camps, family visits, or education programs
> with rangers visiting their classrooms. The park connected with these
> students through four relationships:
>
> 1. The Northwest Regional Educational Service District and the Astoria
> School District offer a migrant summer school to serve students who have
> moved within the last three years for their parent's work.  Several of these
> students participated in summer camps that the park offered and they were
> excited about the opportunity to learn about the International Space Station
> and talk with an astronaut.
>
> 2.  Three small local Girl Scout Troops (#10025, #10026, #10086) were
> interested in this opportunity as they have been focusing on the three keys
> to Girl Scouting which are Discovering, Connecting, and Taking Action.  The
> girls and their leaders were happy to incorporate this ARISS opportunity
> into their projects.
>
> 3.  The Fort Clatsop District of Boy Scouts includes local troop #509 and
> #542.  Since Scouting is about character development and having confidence
> in yourself to Be Prepared, the ARISS program is a good challenge for these
> youngsters.  Their district is named in honor of the 1805-06 winter
> encampment of the 33 people of the Lewis and Clark Expedition .
>
> 4.  Three of the youth recruited for this special program are children or
> grandchildren of Lewis and Clark National Historical Park rangers and were
> excited to learn that an astronaut radio conversation would be happening in
> their park.
>
>
>
>
>
> Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:
>
>
>
> 1.  To prepare for his journey, Captain Meriwether Lewis was tutored by
>
>     experts in medicine, navigation, astronomy, mathematics, botany, and
>
>     paleontology.  What was the hardest part of your training?
>
> 2.  The Corps of Discovery enjoyed fiddle music, do you listen to music in
>
>     space? If so, what kind?
>
> 3.  How different does your body feel in microgravity and how long does it
>
>     take to adjust after arrival in the space station?
>
> 4.  Lewis and Clark failed to find a Northwest Passage.  Have any of your
>
>     experiments failed or not gone like you wanted?
>
> 5.  While wintering at Fort Clatsop, the Corps of Discovery made buckskin
>
>     clothes as their uniforms wore out. How many outfits of clothing do you
>
>
>     have with you, and what kind of material are they made from?
>
> 6.  Why do you like communicating with kids?
>
> 7.  Meriwether Lewis treasured an ermine scarf he received from a Shoshone
>
>
>     chief.  Do you have a souvenir from space? If so, what is it?
>
> 8.  Do you create art from the views from the space station?
>
> 9.  When is your next spacewalk?  What is your favorite thing when you are
>
>     outside the space station?
>
> 10.  Lewis brought his dog Seaman with him on the expedition. Are there any
>
>
>      research animals on the space station now? If so, what are they?
>
> 11.  Although most members of the Corps of Discovery were single, York and
>
>      John Shields had families at home. Do you miss your family, and how do
>
>
>      you communicate with them?
>
> 12.  Do you guys keep journal like Lewis and Clark did?
>
> 13.  If a microorganism changed genetically on the International Space
>
>      Station would it be considered a space alien?
>
> 14.  Were you in a scouting program as a child?  If so, did it affect your
>
>      desire to work in space?
>
> 15.  Lewis and Clark played backgammon.  What games do you play?
>
> 16.  When Sacagawea became sick, Lewis treated her. If you get hurt or sick,
>
>
>      who treats you?
>
> 17.  What are your space suits made of, and can they catch on fire?
>
> 18.  How do you protect your eyes when the space station is facing the sun?
>
> 19.  Are you doing any experiments with animals adapting to microgravity?
>
> 20.  What does a shooting star or a meteor shower look like from space?
>
>
>
>
>
> PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:
>
>
>
>       Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the
>
>       International Space Station (ARISS).
>
>
>
>       To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status
>
>
>
>
>
> Next planned event(s):
>
>
>
>     1. Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence  KS, direct via KC?NFL
>
>        The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS
>
>        The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS
>
>        Contact is a  go for: Fri Sept 9, 2016 16:25 UTC
>
>
>
>
>
> About ARISS:
>
> Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
> venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
> support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States,
> sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
> Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in
> Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).
> The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology,
> engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts
> via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in
> classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced
> amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a
> variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students,
> teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies,
> and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org,
> and www.arrl.org.
>
>
>
> Thank you & 73,
>
> David - AA4KN
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From al7jk.john at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 00:26:55 2016
From: al7jk.john at gmail.com (AL7JK John)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:26:55 -0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] 7L3AEO on Fuji-29
Message-ID: <CABy1QVkhd6sM1nqNre+vncwMkGMG_kHBvseGFZS9dzaOtzN6MQ@mail.gmail.com>

 Got lucky, Fuji-29 was grazing my western horizon
which is blocked partially by the Alaska range up to 10 deg.
7L3AEO pounced on my cw downlink during the brief mutual
window. Orbit # 99016 max elev 7 deg, I'm doin the happy
dance, between the numerous trees, neighbors roofs, sheds
and who know's what else worked Japan again.

73 & Good DX to all

de AL7JK, John
BP51

From ku4os at cfl.rr.com  Sun Sep  4 03:36:26 2016
From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 23:36:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-248 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <46a28808-3bee-339a-e6d7-2ccf0ad85b45@cfl.rr.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-248

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D Schedule Under Review
* ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference Presentations
* AMSAT Area Coordinators List On-Line
* Aves Island update
* Canadian Satellite Grid Expedition
* Multiple Satellite Grid Activations

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-248.01
ANS-248 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 248.01
  From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD.
September 4, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-248.01

Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D Schedule Under Review

As a consequence of the anomaly during the static fire test of the 
SpaceX Falcon
9 on September 1, 2016, the planned integration of Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D 
on the
Spaceflight SHERPA has been postponed.  AMSAT will provide updates 
regarding the
schedule for Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D activities when further information is
available.

[ANS thanks Jerry, N0JY, for the above information]


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ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference Presentations

The ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference) will be held in St.
Petersburg, FL September 16 - 18, 2016.

Saturday Night Banquet Speaker will be Brennan Price, N4QX, ARRL CTO (Chief
Technology Officer) speaking on the topic "New Frontiers in Wireless: 
Challenges
to and Opportunities for Amateur Radio"

Sunday Seminar will be conducted by Michelle Thompson, W5NYV with Bob 
McGwier,
N4HY, Chief Scientist, Hume Center for National Security and Technology 
as a
Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering as well as Aerospace and
Ocean Engineering.  Sunday's Seminar topic will be, "Spectrum (It's the
frequency crunch for real)"

The DCC Technical Forum Schedule is being finalized, however a couple times
slots may be available.  If you would like to present a Technical Topic 
at the
DCC, but haven't submitted a technical paper in advance please email the 
TAPR
Office at: taproffice at tapr.org with the topic of your presentation.

More information is available at
http://www.tapr.org/dcc

[ANS thanks TAPR and ARRL for the above information]


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AMSAT Area Coordinators List On-Line

Are you an AMSAT Area Coordinator? Are you looking for an AMSAT Area
Coordinator? Would you like to become an AMSAT Area Coordinator?

If you answered yes any of these questions, then we are ready to help
you. I have just placed (with the list maintained by Patrick, WD9EWK)
the current list of AMSAT Area Coordinators on the amsat.org webpage.
You can peruse it at your leisure and if you find someone close to you
that you would like to get some help from, you can drop that Area
Coordinator an email at his callsign @ amsat.org

If you see a need for a correction or addition, please drop an email to
Patrick, WD9EWK, at his amsat.org email address.

Oh, where can you actually find the list? http://www.amsat.org then
click on AMSAT in the menu bar and you will see Area Coordinators.

[ANS thanks AMSAT Director of Field Operations Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK, 
and
Bruce Paige, KK5DO for the above information]


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Aves Island update

Steve, W4DTA/YV5DTA, sent out the following 'Official Press-Release' on 
August
24th: The Amateur Radio Association of Venezuela, Sectional "Santiago de 
Leon de
Caracas" regrets to inform the entire amateur radio community of 
Venezuela and
the world, that the Bolivarian Armada of Venezuela has notified us that for
reasons outside of the DXpedition team control that the expedition to Aves
Island to be held in commemoration of Navy Day 2016, by the end of this 
August
and early September has been put on hold until further notice.

Then later in the day Steve sent out: "YX0V is very thankful for all of the
donations, emails, and calls received regarding the operation. They are 
still
working hard, and the team is ready to go when the Navy says go. At the 
moment
weather is a big factor at the moment with two tropical storms near YV0.

[ANS thanks Steve, W4DTA/YV5DTA and Southgate ARN for the above
  information]

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Canadian Satellite Grid Expedition

GRID EXPEDITION TO EO91 (Moosonee, ON). Ken, VE3HLS, announced a Grid EX-
pedition to Moosonee, ON, Canada, which is in EO91.  He will be arriving
early afternoon on Friday, September 23rd, and leaving late afternoon
Monday, September 26th. That gives him four days to put EO91 on the air
via the Satellite. Moosonee is a Cree village located on the Moose River,
which empties into James Bay, about 15 km downstream. By land, Moosonee
is only accessible by train; The Polar Bear Express that runs from 
Cochrane,
ON. It's also accessible by air at much greater expense. He will be driving
to Cochrane and taking a few days to get there which will enable him to
activate other grids along the way, such as FN06, FN07, FN08, EN98 and 
EN99.
Look for updates on his Twitter page at: https://twitter.com/@VE3HLS

[ANS thanks Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin #1280 for the above information]


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Multiple Satellite Grid Activations

Between 5 September and 11 September Bob Liddy, K8BL, travel from Ohio 
north to
Sault St. Marie and make a loop through the following Grids:
EN76/86/87/88/98/99/89/79/78/77

Operation will be on FO29, SO50 and AO7.  Bob reports that he may check 
out a
couple XW's before he leaves to see if he can work them as well. On linear
satellites Bob can usually be found about 15 KHz up from center.

[ANS thanks Bob, K8BL, for the above information]


/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KU4OS
ku4os at amsat dot org





From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Sun Sep  4 16:24:18 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 11:24:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable in DM90
Message-ID: <AF25B3DD1B6A45AB88FCF42B1C62E1D9@AA5PKPC>

I'll operate portable tomorrow (5 Sept) from DM90.  SO-50 pass starting at ~1230Z, then XW-2A starting at ~1311Z.

Glenn
AA5PK

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Sun Sep  4 21:24:58 2016
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 22:24:58 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Mode changes
Message-ID: <5BFEE09A32C1446F978721A1567F577D@allgood.local>

Hi All,

Just to report that FUNcube-1, AO73, is now back in autonomous operation. The transponder will be active when the spacecraft is in eclipse during the week.

We expect that we will continue to maintain having the transponder on continuously at the weekends until further notice.

73

Graham
G3VZV

From k.alexander at rogers.com  Mon Sep  5 01:38:58 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 21:38:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seeking Assistance - SatPC32 to HDSDR
Message-ID: <1fd3ae06-e1ae-c2c5-9262-d0836976efc6@rogers.com>

Hi Group,

For the past several days I've been trying to get SatPC32 and HDSDR to 
communicate with each other via VSP Manager.  HDSDR is controlling an 
Airspy.

I have followed the instruction in the SatPC Help files.  In fact, 
everything seems relatively straightforward, except neither software 
knows the other is there and there is no communication. I have received 
some help from a few people on the @Amsat Twitter group who use this 
same setup successfully, but still no luck.

I'm hoping to get this up and running in time for my grid expedition to 
EO91 at the end of this month so I do have a few weeks.  However, I 
don't know what else to try.  any assistance would be gratefully accepted!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


From va6bmj at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 19:56:08 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 19:56:08 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mystery Finally Solved--Phlae Lander Located
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkPuCOuakFx+5vjYNxEP0LskAc_L_YjYe012gn0AqPSuOA@mail.gmail.com>

Good news before the mission comes to an end:

http://sci.esa.int/rosetta/58220-philae-found/

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From glasbrenner at mindspring.com  Tue Sep  6 15:05:39 2016
From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:05:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-themed interview on HamRadio360
Message-ID: <E8936B33-23AF-401E-939F-1EB4E279A441@mindspring.com>

Hi all,
I had the honor last week of being interviewed for the most excellent podcast, HamRadio360. Cale let me know this morning that the podcast had been released, and I thought I'd share. It's more of an introduction for those curious about amateur radio satellites, so I'll hope you'll share it with those you know that might be interested.

The podcast can be found at: http://hamradio360.com/index.php/2016/09/06/ham-radio-satellite-ops-with-ko4ma-amsat

73, Drew KO4MA

From jc-smith at comcast.net  Tue Sep  6 15:35:00 2016
From: jc-smith at comcast.net (JC Smith)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 08:35:00 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: NIB 16-element Cushcraft 416-TB UHF Boomer $80
Message-ID: <0f4401d20854$3afd2770$b0f77650$@net>

I hope it's still OK to post stuff for sale in the BB.  Please let me know
if it is not.

 

I have two of these:  New in box, cross-polarized, sixteen element Yagi
w/80" boom, 12.5 dBd forward gain. See manual with pictures and complete
specs here: http://www.pa3guo.com/cushcraft_416tb_manual.pdf

 

These are satellite antennas but of course have other applications and
elements could be trimmed for higher freqs.

$80 plus shipping or pick up in Walnut Creek, CA (near Pacificon).

 

Reply to K0HPS at AMSAT.ORG

 


From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue Sep  6 16:04:08 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 16:04:08 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] request for antenna related information
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfwAWN_-4k0mSo0bD6CjaNrOziN6SA=E6UvCmd+kMOTmA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I received an e-mail from Dino VE7XDT, who used to be active on
the satellites from the Vancouver BC area a few years ago. After
a few years away from the satellites, he wants to get back on,
but needs some assistance. From his e-mail:

**********

I am thinking of getting something up for the birds.
I have the Icom 9100 with 1,2 GHz module as well and kept
all my Yaesu rotors and tracking controls.
Unfortunately I had brand new, never installed 2M and 70
CM N2 antennae that I sold few years back.. :(
I have the A144-20T and 416-TB but no harnesses or
baluns ?.. just the antennae.
Do you know a good source for that info? Perhaps anyone
that has the same set up . I checked Cushcraft but no
much there.

**********

Please reply to me directly if you have the information on
the harnesses and anything else he would need to get those
antennas working again.

Dino is still in the Vancouver area, still in grid CN89, so
maybe we can get a little more activity from that area along
with Chris VE7CEW who has been on the satellites lately from
there. Dino also mentioned he makes regular trips to Whitehorse
in Yukon, grid CP20. He asked if there would be any interest
in working that grid. I told him "yes", without waiting to
ask a wider audience. :-)

Thanks in advance, and 73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK

From AJ9N at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 20:08:43 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 16:08:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-06 20:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <3a9c9.5ad55d2a.45007c4b@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-06  20:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence KS, direct via  KC?NFL
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled  astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS 
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-09-09  16:25:42 UTC 56 deg

C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ  or TBD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled  astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ (***) 
Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-09-15  08:14:19 UTC 52 deg  (***)


****************************************************************************
**
Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

************************************************************
******************
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with  117

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-06 20:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1081. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1046. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-24 02:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu  Wed Sep  7 01:05:22 2016
From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:05:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Vs. AMSAT Predictions
In-Reply-To: <379484366.117123.1472764368249@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <379484366.117123.1472764368249.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<379484366.117123.1472764368249@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <04af6915-8e8b-2de5-0ca6-02f164c7017d@alum.wpi.edu>



On 9/1/2016 5:12 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
> As long as I'm wondering, I have a basic question. When I update the
> Keps in PC32, do I choose Satellites nasa.all and Download Keps
> www.amsat.........../nasa.all?  Or, do I choose Satellites amateur.txt
> and Download Keps www.celestrak.........amateur.txt? Or, can it be
> a combination of the two, or doesn't it matter?  
I recommend using  http://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt   This
file is updated daily with ISS elements from the Johnson Space Flight
Center, so you should be dead on to ISS.   It is also the go-to place
for new satellites as soon as we get reliable information/identification
often before we get information from other sources.

73 de KM1P joe

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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 02:28:40 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:28:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Listening to the ISS with Kids at the Beach!
	(Indy Children's Museum)
Message-ID: <CALn0fKNra8kUj58RpL2+G_yB=iRTtO=_2zf7J-2-C=dCS_ygQg@mail.gmail.com>

https://youtu.be/a218pkQr3Oc

Help me reach 1,000 YouTube subscribers!
https://www.youtube.com/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1

My friend Sammy, KK4TJH, and his kids, joined me to listen to
astronaut Kate Rubins onboard the International Space Station talking
to The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Indiana on August 23rd,
2016. We listened from Raleigh, North Carolina and I dictated the
questions from Nags Head, North Carolina, on the Outer Banks barrier
islands of North Carolina.

Thanks for watching and 73!

John Brier KG4AKV

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed Sep  7 03:54:35 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:54:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Lawrence Public Library,
	Lawrence, KS
Message-ID: <612C9E4F669B4380B7FA239A2302697C@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence, KS on 09 Sept. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 16:25 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and KC0NFL. The contact should be audible over the state of Kansas, USA and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

Lawrence Public Library (LPL) is located in the vibrant community of Lawrence, Kansas. Lawrence has a population of around 87,000 people and is home to the University of Kansas. 

 

LPL provides free access to a wide range of informational, intellectual, and cultural resources for our community. We seek to create an environment in which all members of the community feel welcome, and to act as a community living room where all types of important topics can be discussed and examined.

 

Through participation in the ARISS program, we hope to provide all members of our community with the opportunity to learn more about space exploration, the international space station, and radio in general. We most especially are hoping to encourage 6-12th graders in our community to expand their horizons and consider STEM careers.

 

In the months leading up to our contact with the International Space Station LPL has provided a number of programs in partnership with the Douglas County Amateur Radio Club ranging from building crystal radios and preparing for and taking the radio technician exam, to star gazing and learning about the science of rocketry and what life is like in space. Space-themed story hours for the smallest kids, and book displays for teens and adults also sought to educate and excite as many community members as possible about the upcoming contact.

 

Our full community was encouraged to become involved in the contact by submitting potential questions to ask the astronauts, and then by voting for their favorite questions in order to narrow the list down to our community's top 20. A lucky group of 6-12th graders will get to ask these questions as we all listen in to the radio contact. 

 

In the hours surrounding our contact LPL and a number of local organizations will provide activities and informational booths on everything from what it takes to become an astronaut, to activities such as launching paper rockets on the library lawn. 

 

It will be an event for the whole community to enjoy and an opportunity for our teens to look beyond the everyday and imagine a future with STEM.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1.   Have you seen any examples of your crew developing its own space 

     culture?

2.   What kinds of bacteria are in the space station?

3.   What does the international space station smell like?

4.   Are space headaches worse than headaches you've had on earth?

5.   How do you deal with mental health issues in space?

6.   Can you see space junk outside the space station and does it look like 

     litter?

7.   Would you go to Mars if you were given the opportunity?

8.   How frequently do you see meteors/objects entering atmospheres, how is 

     it different from seeing them on Earth?

9.   Do you have a favorite experiment?

10.   While in space, do you prefer books/music about space, or something 

      more terrestrial, and why?

11.   What are you reading? And how do you get new materials (ebooks, 

      physical books etc.)?

12.   Have your experiences in space changed your outlook on life, and if so, 

      how?

13.   What happens when there is a solar flare?

14.   Do you ever get claustrophobic in the space station?

15.   Have you had an experience in space where your preparation didn't 

      really prepare you for the event and why?

16.   What inspired you to become an astronaut?

17.   What is the most exciting thing on the horizon for the ISS?

18.   Do you ever fear that when you come back to Earth everything will be 

      different?

19.   What are your thoughts on the international cooperation necessary to 

      make a project like the international space station possible?

20.   What is the most difficult part of your current journey?

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

      1. C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ or TBD

         The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS

         The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ 

         Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-09-15 08:14 UTC

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN


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From wx4tv at hamradio.world  Wed Sep  7 02:19:00 2016
From: wx4tv at hamradio.world (James G. Lea)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:19:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PJ6Y and 4Z5RR
Message-ID: <B04185BD-06C4-444E-A235-37C42D49BE08@hamradio.world>

I have been listening to the recordings for PJ6Y to make sure that we have everyone in the log and I heard 4Z5RR give one of the operators a call.  The accent the guy has sounds like he is from the islands, and he doesn?t seem to know how to work the birds, so I suspect that this is a bootleg call.  Does anyone know about this guy?  There is no way we worked him from Israel on SO-50.

Also, the leadership for the Youth DX Adventure refuses to use LOTW and will not allow me to upload to LOTW.  If you worked PJ6Y on HF or satellite, please QSL to the address on QRZ.


73,

James Lea - WX4TV
ARRL Section Youth Coordinator - Northern Florida Section
+1 (386) 414-0788

Want to learn more about all that Ham Radio has to offer?
Check out http://www.HamRadio.World <http://www.hamradio.world/>!


From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com  Wed Sep  7 02:44:18 2016
From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:44:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat PC32 Vs. AMSAT Predictions
Message-ID: <000b01d208b1$bb6bbf40$32433dc0$@mypbmail.com>

Joe Fitzgerald, KM1P, in answer to a comment made the following reply:

" recommend using  http://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt 
This file is updated daily with ISS elements from the Johnson Space Flight
Center, so you should be dead on to ISS.   It is also the go-to place
for new satellites as soon as we get reliable information/identification
often before we get information from other sources."

This is very good advice and I want to make sure it's not lost is the daily
AMSAT-BB dialogue!  Note that SatPC32 and probably most of the other
tracking programs do not have the above URL listed in the standard choices.
I suggest that you add this option to your tracking program either by
changing the update choices or even typing in the above URL each time if you
have no other option.  In SatPC32, you can add the URL to the auxiliary file
"Celetrak.SQF" I tried it and it works. Note that you will have to close
SatPC32 and reopen it in order to read in the new "Celetrak.SQF" data.

Ray Hoad
WA5QGD





From mikesprenger at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 13:10:53 2016
From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 09:10:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale Yaesu FT-847 Satellite Rig
Message-ID: <CAB4zG_+iyt06KDhm5=juzWZRhtAncy+G3=8Oc1rqVga+T32HLg@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

Posted this a few weeks ago, following up:

Would much rather see this radio go to a fellow AMSAT enthusiast and let
this radio be enjoyed on satellite, let me know if you have interest in
this FT-847 at $795 to start the discussion, I'm willing to negotiate to
make someone happy working the birds.

Contact me off list if interested and we can talk.

Thanks,
Mike
W4UOO

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Cleaning out some things, would rather see a fellow amsat-er enjoy this
> radio on the Satellites
>
> I have a Yaesu FT-847 which is an all mode (FM/CW/SSB) HF through 70cm
> (less 220) Rig.    Its not had a lot of use since I got it, which means its
> got little wear.
>
> Asking $950 plus shipping to your QTH.    I have the original box for this
> radio. There's a scratch on the top next to the speaker, but even so, it
> looks nice, given this, its not museum quality, but it sure will get you on
> the air if you like working the satellites and look nice in your station.
>
> Also, it has RS-232 and is a late enough model that the RS-232 is
> bi-directional, which means it works fine with SatPC32, where for instance,
> you tune the receive dial on the radio, and SATPC then reads the downlink,
> calculates doppler, then sets the uplink for you.  Works nicely, with 100w
> on 6m and HF (plus Mode A on AO-7 = uplink on 2m down on 10M) and will
> power mast mount preamps on 2m/70cm via the coax.
>
> No Paypal - Cashiers Check or Money Order, then I'm glad to ship.   The
> Radio Works - Selling As-Is because I'm not interested in being scammed and
> have someone send me a carcass back....expecting a refund, sorry I even
> have to say that...   For serious enquiries, I'm more than willing to
> provide pictures.  (I don't think pictures go through the amsat-bb, I can
> send pictures direct)
>
> Here's the info from Yaesu's website about the radio:
> http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&
> ProdCatID=102&encProdID=1F9F41E47B926F9590C43C638C5EFD00
>
> 73
> Mike
> W4UOO
>



-- 
Thanks,
Mike Sprenger
(37.9167N  81.1244W is the Summit)

From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Wed Sep  7 14:20:20 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 09:20:20 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-736R for sale
Message-ID: <84EA67ABF60847919A73CF0041AB91D6@AA5PKPC>

Estate sale.  Just passing this along.

YAESU FT-736R VHF/UHF ALL MODE TRANSCEIVER
SSB/CW/FM  THE RADIO HAS 2 METER, 440, 220, 6 METER AND THE ELEMENT FOR 1.2 GHZ. INCLUDES MANUALS AND SERVICE MANUALS. 
ASKING  $1600.

PURCHASED NEW BY THE OWNER.  IT HAS NEVER BEEN IN A SMOKING ENVIRONMENT.  HAS SEEN VERY LITTLE USE AND IS IN EXCELLENT TO 
LIKE NEW CONDITION.
CONTACT: ALAN WALRAVEN, N5MSE,   940-872-0484 


From morgan_st at bellsouth.net  Wed Sep  7 14:21:44 2016
From: morgan_st at bellsouth.net (Stewart Todd Morgan)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:21:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] edX Introduction to Aerospace Engineering Course
Message-ID: <59a11772-6b3f-0d40-2d7c-f014e0b87c93@bellsouth.net>

MIT is conducting an online introductory aerospace engineering course 
through edX.  The course began yesterday.

If you want to know more about the physics and mathematics that 
underlies the 2-line Keplerian element sets that amateurs use to track 
satellites, the course includes a segment on orbital mechanics.  If you 
have been listening to the ARISS contacts between ISS crew and ground 
stations, you may have heard astronauts/cosmonauts make reference to 
spacewalks and the effects of microgravity.  Dr. Kate Rubins indicated 
in her recent ARISS contact with The Children's Museum in Indianapolis 
that the spacewalk was the most difficult aspect of time on the station. 
These topics and other are covered in the course which is taught by 
former NASA astronaut Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman.

More information is available here:

https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-aerospace-engineering-mitx-16-00x-0#!

Todd
AL0I


From nss at mwt.net  Wed Sep  7 14:33:07 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 09:33:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
Message-ID: <a637895a-e70b-faf4-1c59-290af8755114@mwt.net>

Hi All,
I till last night thought I found the "Holy Grail" of a connector and 
connector source.
But maybe was blown down by a "Professional" That does all this "Radio 
Stuff" for a living.

I always LOVED the old "N" connectors. With the big rubber clamping 
thing inside for the shield. And always wished that method was available 
on other connectors, even the old PL-259.

A few weeks ago I found them, Like this,

http://dxavenue.com/131-465-thickbox/pl-259-clamp-connector-uhf-male.jpg

  and I found a source, that is not only CHEAP, but in any combination 
you could even dream of. So No losses from adapters. Like from LMR-400 
to Male BNC, or even LMR-400 to female SMA.

I bought three connectors.
(2) LMR-400 to Male BNC
(1)  Male BNC to Female SMA

Total cost only 9 bucks and 3 days shipping time!

OK, I was sooo happy I had to bring them to the club meeting last night 
to let everyone else know of this find. And a guy that works for a land 
mobile company. They do all the radio work around here for the police, 
FD etc. And he said he wished he knew I wanted them. They got a box of a 
hundred in the storage room. A lot of equipment comes with the 
connectors like these but they refuse to use them. He said they are not 
reliable and the ground connection fails.

I never heard of this before.  What is everyones thoughts here?

Joe WB9SBD
-- 
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

From jim at k6ccc.org  Wed Sep  7 15:21:26 2016
From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:21:26 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
In-Reply-To: <a637895a-e70b-faf4-1c59-290af8755114@mwt.net>
References: <a637895a-e70b-faf4-1c59-290af8755114@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <d7390aaadab34c6f9b7e4836c327ef3f@k6ccc.org>

I work in the Radio Shop for a fairly large city.  We deal with everything 
from WiFi in police cars to a regional UHF T-Band P-25 trunked system.  
Essentially every RF connector we put on (except hardline) is a crimp type 
connector.  We have the proper cable stripping, and crimp tools for them as 
well.  The crimps are FAR faster to install, and when done properly with 
the right tools, every bit as reliable (or more so) than a soldered 
connector.
 Personally I really dislike the "old school" Type-N connectors.  Had way 
too many fail.  The usual failure mode is that the cable is not 
mechanically attached to the connector well enough, and with some handling, 
the strands of the shield start breaking until the cable pulls out of the 
connector.  For home use (where I don't own many hundreds of dollars of the 
proper crimp tools), I much prefer the newer Type-N connectors that are put 
together more like a PL-259.  Yes, I know that they are not as perfect as 
the "old school" Type-N, they don't come apart.
  
  
 Jim Walls
 K6CCC
  

----------------------------------------
 From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:03 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?   
Hi All,
I till last night thought I found the "Holy Grail" of a connector and
connector source.
But maybe was blown down by a "Professional" That does all this "Radio
Stuff" for a living.

I always LOVED the old "N" connectors. With the big rubber clamping
thing inside for the shield. And always wished that method was available
on other connectors, even the old PL-259.

A few weeks ago I found them, Like this,

http://dxavenue.com/131-465-thickbox/pl-259-clamp-connector-uhf-male.jpg

and I found a source, that is not only CHEAP, but in any combination
you could even dream of. So No losses from adapters. Like from LMR-400
to Male BNC, or even LMR-400 to female SMA.

I bought three connectors.
(2) LMR-400 to Male BNC
(1) Male BNC to Female SMA

Total cost only 9 bucks and 3 days shipping time!

OK, I was sooo happy I had to bring them to the club meeting last night
to let everyone else know of this find. And a guy that works for a land
mobile company. They do all the radio work around here for the police,
FD etc. And he said he wished he knew I wanted them. They got a box of a
hundred in the storage room. A lot of equipment comes with the
connectors like these but they refuse to use them. He said they are not
reliable and the ground connection fails.

I never heard of this before. What is everyones thoughts here?

Joe WB9SBD
--
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
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From dougphelps at ameritech.net  Wed Sep  7 15:45:21 2016
From: dougphelps at ameritech.net (dougphelps at ameritech.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:45:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
In-Reply-To: <d7390aaadab34c6f9b7e4836c327ef3f@k6ccc.org>
References: <a637895a-e70b-faf4-1c59-290af8755114@mwt.net>
	<d7390aaadab34c6f9b7e4836c327ef3f@k6ccc.org>
Message-ID: <573478039.1104708.1473263121857@mail.yahoo.com>

I have switched to crimp connectors and I do not think that the shield connections, on N connectors, is any less secure than the "old school type". ?In every case, the sheild is compressed against the connector body. ?Ithink the crimp connector makes a better shield connection. ?This topic came up on another group and someone on that group said the military only uses crimp connectors now. ?I could not verify his statement but it seems to me that it is much easier to make a reliable connection with crimp than with solder.
Just my 2 cents worth.


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Jim Walls<jim at k6ccc.org> wrote:   I work in the Radio Shop for a fairly large city.? We deal with everything 
from WiFi in police cars to a regional UHF T-Band P-25 trunked system.? 
Essentially every RF connector we put on (except hardline) is a crimp type 
connector.? We have the proper cable stripping, and crimp tools for them as 
well.? The crimps are FAR faster to install, and when done properly with 
the right tools, every bit as reliable (or more so) than a soldered 
connector.
 Personally I really dislike the "old school" Type-N connectors.? Had way 
too many fail.? The usual failure mode is that the cable is not 
mechanically attached to the connector well enough, and with some handling, 
the strands of the shield start breaking until the cable pulls out of the 
connector.? For home use (where I don't own many hundreds of dollars of the 
proper crimp tools), I much prefer the newer Type-N connectors that are put 
together more like a PL-259.? Yes, I know that they are not as perfect as 
the "old school" Type-N, they don't come apart.
? 
? 
 Jim Walls
 K6CCC
? 

----------------------------------------
 From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:03 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?? 
Hi All,
I till last night thought I found the "Holy Grail" of a connector and
connector source.
But maybe was blown down by a "Professional" That does all this "Radio
Stuff" for a living.

I always LOVED the old "N" connectors. With the big rubber clamping
thing inside for the shield. And always wished that method was available
on other connectors, even the old PL-259.

A few weeks ago I found them, Like this,

http://dxavenue.com/131-465-thickbox/pl-259-clamp-connector-uhf-male.jpg

and I found a source, that is not only CHEAP, but in any combination
you could even dream of. So No losses from adapters. Like from LMR-400
to Male BNC, or even LMR-400 to female SMA.

I bought three connectors.
(2) LMR-400 to Male BNC
(1) Male BNC to Female SMA

Total cost only 9 bucks and 3 days shipping time!

OK, I was sooo happy I had to bring them to the club meeting last night
to let everyone else know of this find. And a guy that works for a land
mobile company. They do all the radio work around here for the police,
FD etc. And he said he wished he knew I wanted them. They got a box of a
hundred in the storage room. A lot of equipment comes with the
connectors like these but they refuse to use them. He said they are not
reliable and the ground connection fails.

I never heard of this before. What is everyones thoughts here?

Joe WB9SBD
--
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions 
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of 
AMSAT-NA.
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From ai7rogerroger at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 16:03:45 2016
From: ai7rogerroger at gmail.com (Roger)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:03:45 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
In-Reply-To: <573478039.1104708.1473263121857@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <a637895a-e70b-faf4-1c59-290af8755114@mwt.net>
	<d7390aaadab34c6f9b7e4836c327ef3f@k6ccc.org>
	<573478039.1104708.1473263121857@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEahN0KGzV--yx25LCaSGKFsz0dHupBghrbU-dMuHTY3eQFYkQ@mail.gmail.com>

I too work in the profession and try to stay away from the old style. Not
only will the shield eventually release but the center pin will at times
recess. I use crimp whenever possible.


73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:45 PM, dougphelps at ameritech.net <
dougphelps at ameritech.net> wrote:

> I have switched to crimp connectors and I do not think that the shield
> connections, on N connectors, is any less secure than the "old school
> type".  In every case, the sheild is compressed against the connector
> body.  Ithink the crimp connector makes a better shield connection.  This
> topic came up on another group and someone on that group said the military
> only uses crimp connectors now.  I could not verify his statement but it
> seems to me that it is much easier to make a reliable connection with crimp
> than with solder.
> Just my 2 cents worth.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Jim Walls<jim at k6ccc.org> wrote:   I
> work in the Radio Shop for a fairly large city.  We deal with everything
> from WiFi in police cars to a regional UHF T-Band P-25 trunked system.
> Essentially every RF connector we put on (except hardline) is a crimp type
> connector.  We have the proper cable stripping, and crimp tools for them as
> well.  The crimps are FAR faster to install, and when done properly with
> the right tools, every bit as reliable (or more so) than a soldered
> connector.
>  Personally I really dislike the "old school" Type-N connectors.  Had way
> too many fail.  The usual failure mode is that the cable is not
> mechanically attached to the connector well enough, and with some handling,
> the strands of the shield start breaking until the cable pulls out of the
> connector.  For home use (where I don't own many hundreds of dollars of the
> proper crimp tools), I much prefer the newer Type-N connectors that are put
> together more like a PL-259.  Yes, I know that they are not as perfect as
> the "old school" Type-N, they don't come apart.
>
>
>  Jim Walls
>  K6CCC
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>  From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:03 AM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
> Hi All,
> I till last night thought I found the "Holy Grail" of a connector and
> connector source.
> But maybe was blown down by a "Professional" That does all this "Radio
> Stuff" for a living.
>
> I always LOVED the old "N" connectors. With the big rubber clamping
> thing inside for the shield. And always wished that method was available
> on other connectors, even the old PL-259.
>
> A few weeks ago I found them, Like this,
>
> http://dxavenue.com/131-465-thickbox/pl-259-clamp-connector-uhf-male.jpg
>
> and I found a source, that is not only CHEAP, but in any combination
> you could even dream of. So No losses from adapters. Like from LMR-400
> to Male BNC, or even LMR-400 to female SMA.
>
> I bought three connectors.
> (2) LMR-400 to Male BNC
> (1) Male BNC to Female SMA
>
> Total cost only 9 bucks and 3 days shipping time!
>
> OK, I was sooo happy I had to bring them to the club meeting last night
> to let everyone else know of this find. And a guy that works for a land
> mobile company. They do all the radio work around here for the police,
> FD etc. And he said he wished he knew I wanted them. They got a box of a
> hundred in the storage room. A lot of equipment comes with the
> connectors like these but they refuse to use them. He said they are not
> reliable and the ground connection fails.
>
> I never heard of this before. What is everyones thoughts here?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> --
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
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From nss at mwt.net  Wed Sep  7 16:25:11 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:25:11 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
In-Reply-To: <CAEahN0KGzV--yx25LCaSGKFsz0dHupBghrbU-dMuHTY3eQFYkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<d7390aaadab34c6f9b7e4836c327ef3f@k6ccc.org>
	<573478039.1104708.1473263121857@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAEahN0KGzV--yx25LCaSGKFsz0dHupBghrbU-dMuHTY3eQFYkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Wow cool, I did not expect this at all.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/7/2016 11:03 AM, Roger wrote:
> I too work in the profession and try to stay away from the old style. 
> Not only will the shield eventually release but the center pin will at 
> times recess. I use crimp whenever possible.
>
>
> 73, Roger
> W7TZ
> CN83ia
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:45 PM, dougphelps at ameritech.net 
> <mailto:dougphelps at ameritech.net> <dougphelps at ameritech.net 
> <mailto:dougphelps at ameritech.net>> wrote:
>
>     I have switched to crimp connectors and I do not think that the
>     shield connections, on N connectors, is any less secure than the
>     "old school type".  In every case, the sheild is compressed
>     against the connector body.  Ithink the crimp connector makes a
>     better shield connection.  This topic came up on another group and
>     someone on that group said the military only uses crimp connectors
>     now.  I could not verify his statement but it seems to me that it
>     is much easier to make a reliable connection with crimp than with
>     solder.
>     Just my 2 cents worth.
>
>
>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>       On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Jim Walls<jim at k6ccc.org
>     <mailto:jim at k6ccc.org>> wrote:   I work in the Radio Shop for a
>     fairly large city. We deal with everything
>     from WiFi in police cars to a regional UHF T-Band P-25 trunked
>     system.
>     Essentially every RF connector we put on (except hardline) is a
>     crimp type
>     connector.  We have the proper cable stripping, and crimp tools
>     for them as
>     well.  The crimps are FAR faster to install, and when done
>     properly with
>     the right tools, every bit as reliable (or more so) than a soldered
>     connector.
>      Personally I really dislike the "old school" Type-N connectors. 
>     Had way
>     too many fail.  The usual failure mode is that the cable is not
>     mechanically attached to the connector well enough, and with some
>     handling,
>     the strands of the shield start breaking until the cable pulls out
>     of the
>     connector.  For home use (where I don't own many hundreds of
>     dollars of the
>     proper crimp tools), I much prefer the newer Type-N connectors
>     that are put
>     together more like a PL-259.  Yes, I know that they are not as
>     perfect as
>     the "old school" Type-N, they don't come apart.
>
>
>      Jim Walls
>      K6CCC
>
>
>     ----------------------------------------
>      From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>     Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:03 AM
>     To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>     Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
>     Hi All,
>     I till last night thought I found the "Holy Grail" of a connector and
>     connector source.
>     But maybe was blown down by a "Professional" That does all this "Radio
>     Stuff" for a living.
>
>     I always LOVED the old "N" connectors. With the big rubber clamping
>     thing inside for the shield. And always wished that method was
>     available
>     on other connectors, even the old PL-259.
>
>     A few weeks ago I found them, Like this,
>
>     http://dxavenue.com/131-465-thickbox/pl-259-clamp-connector-uhf-male.jpg
>     <http://dxavenue.com/131-465-thickbox/pl-259-clamp-connector-uhf-male.jpg>
>
>     and I found a source, that is not only CHEAP, but in any combination
>     you could even dream of. So No losses from adapters. Like from LMR-400
>     to Male BNC, or even LMR-400 to female SMA.
>
>     I bought three connectors.
>     (2) LMR-400 to Male BNC
>     (1) Male BNC to Female SMA
>
>     Total cost only 9 bucks and 3 days shipping time!
>
>     OK, I was sooo happy I had to bring them to the club meeting last
>     night
>     to let everyone else know of this find. And a guy that works for a
>     land
>     mobile company. They do all the radio work around here for the police,
>     FD etc. And he said he wished he knew I wanted them. They got a
>     box of a
>     hundred in the storage room. A lot of equipment comes with the
>     connectors like these but they refuse to use them. He said they
>     are not
>     reliable and the ground connection fails.
>
>     I never heard of this before. What is everyones thoughts here?
>
>     Joe WB9SBD
>     --
>     Sig
>     The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>     Idle Tyme
>     Idle-Tyme.com
>     http://www.idle-tyme.com
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From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 16:55:49 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 22:25:49 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
Message-ID: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings everyone,

We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of
September. We would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving our
satellite's beacon, details given below:

Beacon:
Mode: CW
wpm: 35 words
Frequency: 145.980 MHz

Downlink:
Mode: FSK
Baudrate: 1200 bps
Frequency: 437.455 MHz
(To be switched on over France and India only)

We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.

Kind Regards.
Team Pratham

From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in  Wed Sep  7 18:49:34 2016
From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 18:49:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Team Pratham,
Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on 437.455 Mhz is activated over France and India.?73
Nitin [VU3TYG]Secretary, AMSAT INDIA?

      From: Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
 To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
   
Greetings everyone,

We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of
September. We would be really happy if? you all joined us in receiving our
satellite's beacon, details given below:

Beacon:
Mode: CW
wpm: 35 words
Frequency: 145.980 MHz

Downlink:
Mode: FSK
Baudrate: 1200 bps
Frequency: 437.455 MHz
(To be switched on over France and India only)

We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.

Kind Regards.
Team Pratham
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Sep  7 19:38:54 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 19:38:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] UK CubeSat Forum: Lunar CubeSats + BATC Convention Sat
	Talks
References: <298634540.2348821.1473277134261.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <298634540.2348821.1473277134261@mail.yahoo.com>

UK CubeSat Forum ? Lunar opportunity 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/03/uk-cubesat-forum-lunar-opportunity/

5 GHz to 10 GHz Lunar Transponder 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/07/5-ghz-to-10-ghz-lunar-transponder-mission/

Pratham student satellite launches last week of September 2016? 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/07/pratham-student-satellite/

Video of Portable Satellite Operation Talk by Peter Goodhall 2E0SQL 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/07/video-of-portable-satellite-operation-talk/

UK student balloon crosses Pacific 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/02/uk-student-balloon-crosses-pacific/

Amateur Satellites at BATC Convention Sept 24-25 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/01/batc-convention-sept-24-25/


73 Trevor M5AKA----
AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/
Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK
Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK
YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK
----

From dave at druidnetworks.com  Wed Sep  7 21:20:01 2016
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:20:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R Coundtdown
Message-ID: <CANq+eyXq-gn_Y-JA-GFP-PwiwiDQAY+3yTF==jubTxg4JNUORA@mail.gmail.com>

9 days from now, Wyatt, AC0RA, and myself will be getting on the boat in
Ventura, CA with our destination set on CM93. We've been training all
summer, finalizing equipment, setting skeds, and generally getting all the
loose ends tied up, and we look to be ready to go.

We have posted our Final pass schedule on the K6R QRZ page at
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/K6R - so feel free to find a pass that is to
your liking. We have tried hard to include everyone in our distance range
on at least 1 or 2 passes. Of course all passes are dependent on weather,
schedule, and other factors - and there's a very good chance we'll show up
on passes that AREN'T on our list as well.. find a window, and see if we're
around.

We're also happy to announce that Jimmy, KK6FAH will be serving as our
pilot relay station for the expedition. He's a fellow AMSAT operator, and
has a QTH right in Ventura, and we should be in local repeater range of
each other while we're on the Island. We have agreed to meet up each
evening and report our logs to him, and he will then pass our report on to
the BB. Please do not email him  with questions about busted calls or the
like, he's simply going to be passing on our reports. He's also been
awesome in helping us with some local arrangements, and we appreciate his
assistance with this project greatly.

I'd also like to make a brief request for folks to use some good
situational awareness while we're out there. We know this is a rare grid
and there's tons of interest, but remember that the birds and pass time are
a scarce resource. We're hoping with lots of scheduled passes there should
be more than enough air time to get everyone worked that wants it, but use
some common sense. If you have linear capability, find us on one of those
birds, and leave SO-50 for the FM only operators. If you're on the West
coast and can work us on a higher pass where the east coast doesn't have a
footprint, consider delaying to give them a chance. If you can handle
taking a night off from using SO-50 as your ragchew repeater in the sky,
that'd be great too... and please try to keep the dupes to a minimum - you
never know when someone is just sliding into the footprint and only has 30
seconds to make that precious QSO. Thanks in advance.

Finally, we're planning to do a very informal round table on 20 meters
Saturday night at 8:00 PDT. Clayton, W5PFG has agreed to find us a
frequency (probably the upper portion of 20m) and send out a tweet on where
we will be. We'd love to have you stop by on HF and chat about Satellite
stuff, the expedition, or "Am I in the log?" that night.

It's expedition go time. Hope to catch everyone from CM93!

73!

Dave, KG5CCI

From kb2m at arrl.net  Wed Sep  7 21:45:24 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 17:45:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
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References: <a637895a-e70b-faf4-1c59-290af8755114@mwt.net>	<d7390aaadab34c6f9b7e4836c327ef3f@k6ccc.org>	<573478039.1104708.1473263121857@mail.yahoo.com>
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 I also now use mostly crimp connections. The tools aren't that expensive, I
spent under $100. Before I retired one of the last projects I did was do the
engineering on the 10 year tech refresh for the 20 FAA ARTCC's GPS time
source. I had to spec a 200 + foot cable run from the antenna on the roof to
the actual time source unit. I worked with crimp connectors exclusively.
After I did some crimps, I will never go back to solder. I do find it easier
to solder the center pin though. 
  On the old N type, I always had issues after awhile with the shield coming
out on the cable run from the rotor loop to the antenna. If you must solder,
use the newer type that go together like a PL-259 like Jim suggested. They
will last much longer ...

73 Jeff kb2m  

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Roger
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:04 PM
To: dougphelps at ameritech.net
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?

I too work in the profession and try to stay away from the old style. Not
only will the shield eventually release but the center pin will at times
recess. I use crimp whenever possible.


73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:45 PM, dougphelps at ameritech.net <
dougphelps at ameritech.net> wrote:

> I have switched to crimp connectors and I do not think that the shield 
> connections, on N connectors, is any less secure than the "old school 
> type".  In every case, the sheild is compressed against the connector 
> body.  Ithink the crimp connector makes a better shield connection.  
> This topic came up on another group and someone on that group said the 
> military only uses crimp connectors now.  I could not verify his 
> statement but it seems to me that it is much easier to make a reliable 
> connection with crimp than with solder.
> Just my 2 cents worth.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Jim Walls<jim at k6ccc.org> wrote:   I
> work in the Radio Shop for a fairly large city.  We deal with 
> everything from WiFi in police cars to a regional UHF T-Band P-25 trunked
system.
> Essentially every RF connector we put on (except hardline) is a crimp 
> type connector.  We have the proper cable stripping, and crimp tools 
> for them as well.  The crimps are FAR faster to install, and when done 
> properly with the right tools, every bit as reliable (or more so) than 
> a soldered connector.
>  Personally I really dislike the "old school" Type-N connectors.  Had 
> way too many fail.  The usual failure mode is that the cable is not 
> mechanically attached to the connector well enough, and with some 
> handling, the strands of the shield start breaking until the cable 
> pulls out of the connector.  For home use (where I don't own many 
> hundreds of dollars of the proper crimp tools), I much prefer the 
> newer Type-N connectors that are put together more like a PL-259.  
> Yes, I know that they are not as perfect as the "old school" Type-N, they
don't come apart.
>
>
>  Jim Walls
>  K6CCC
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>  From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:03 AM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
> Hi All,
> I till last night thought I found the "Holy Grail" of a connector and 
> connector source.
> But maybe was blown down by a "Professional" That does all this "Radio 
> Stuff" for a living.
>
> I always LOVED the old "N" connectors. With the big rubber clamping 
> thing inside for the shield. And always wished that method was 
> available on other connectors, even the old PL-259.
>
> A few weeks ago I found them, Like this,
>
> http://dxavenue.com/131-465-thickbox/pl-259-clamp-connector-uhf-male.j
> pg
>
> and I found a source, that is not only CHEAP, but in any combination 
> you could even dream of. So No losses from adapters. Like from LMR-400 
> to Male BNC, or even LMR-400 to female SMA.
>
> I bought three connectors.
> (2) LMR-400 to Male BNC
> (1) Male BNC to Female SMA
>
> Total cost only 9 bucks and 3 days shipping time!
>
> OK, I was sooo happy I had to bring them to the club meeting last 
> night to let everyone else know of this find. And a guy that works for 
> a land mobile company. They do all the radio work around here for the 
> police, FD etc. And he said he wished he knew I wanted them. They got 
> a box of a hundred in the storage room. A lot of equipment comes with 
> the connectors like these but they refuse to use them. He said they 
> are not reliable and the ground connection fails.
>
> I never heard of this before. What is everyones thoughts here?
>
> Joe WB9SBD


From vlfiscus at mcn.net  Wed Sep  7 23:45:30 2016
From: vlfiscus at mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 17:45:30 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
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Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20160907173727.00c3bbb8@pop.earthlink.net>

At 05:45 PM 9/7/2016 -0400, "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:
>  I also now use mostly crimp connections. The tools aren't that expensive, I
>spent under $100. Before I retired one of the last projects I did was do the
>engineering on the 10 year tech refresh for the 20 FAA ARTCC's GPS time
>source. I had to spec a 200 + foot cable run from the antenna on the roof to
>the actual time source unit. I worked with crimp connectors exclusively.
>After I did some crimps, I will never go back to solder. I do find it easier
>to solder the center pin though.
>   On the old N type, I always had issues after awhile with the shield coming
>out on the cable run from the rotor loop to the antenna. If you must solder,
>use the newer type that go together like a PL-259 like Jim suggested. They
>will last much longer ...
>
>73 Jeff kb2m



I'm finding this an interesting thread.  I've always been partial
to clamp N connectors my self.  When I've needed to replace cable,
I just un-clamp de-solder the center pin and re-use the connector.

I will say over the years, I have had to numerous times re-do the
clamp-ons around the rotor and antennas as they do become loose
and lose shield ground as others here have noted.

I may look into crimp.

KB7ADL


From nss at mwt.net  Wed Sep  7 23:04:26 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 18:04:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best Connectors?
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I agree 100%, I'm glad I asked this question.

I myself never in my mind thought a crimp as being a superior connection.

Solder is best, and that seems to all agree.

But like an "N",  is there such a thing as an all soldering format?

Or "BNC" or any common connector.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/7/2016 6:45 PM, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> At 05:45 PM 9/7/2016 -0400, "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:
>>  I also now use mostly crimp connections. The tools aren't that 
>> expensive, I
>> spent under $100. Before I retired one of the last projects I did was 
>> do the
>> engineering on the 10 year tech refresh for the 20 FAA ARTCC's GPS time
>> source. I had to spec a 200 + foot cable run from the antenna on the 
>> roof to
>> the actual time source unit. I worked with crimp connectors exclusively.
>> After I did some crimps, I will never go back to solder. I do find it 
>> easier
>> to solder the center pin though.
>>   On the old N type, I always had issues after awhile with the shield 
>> coming
>> out on the cable run from the rotor loop to the antenna. If you must 
>> solder,
>> use the newer type that go together like a PL-259 like Jim suggested. 
>> They
>> will last much longer ...
>>
>> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
> I'm finding this an interesting thread.  I've always been partial
> to clamp N connectors my self.  When I've needed to replace cable,
> I just un-clamp de-solder the center pin and re-use the connector.
>
> I will say over the years, I have had to numerous times re-do the
> clamp-ons around the rotor and antennas as they do become loose
> and lose shield ground as others here have noted.
>
> I may look into crimp.
>
> KB7ADL
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From kb2m at arrl.net  Thu Sep  8 00:26:18 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 20:26:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] sat remote
Message-ID: <01ed01d20967$9ede0e80$dc9a2b80$@net>

Is anyone presently operating satellites remotely? If so what is your setup?
Just curious, we just had a conversation about remote ops on XW-2A.

 

73 Jeff kb2m


From k7trkradio at charter.net  Thu Sep  8 00:33:27 2016
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 17:33:27 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R Countdown
Message-ID: <003f01d20968$9e429c60$dac7d520$@charter.net>

Hi Dave,  I may have missed it on the QRZ page, but what modes on HF/6? Any
digital? JT65 on 6M might be pretty productive

Anyway, Good Luck and safe travels

73, Ted
K7TRK

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From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David
Swanson
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 2:20 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R Coundtdown

9 days from now, Wyatt, AC0RA, and myself will be getting on the boat in
Ventura, CA with our destination set on CM93. We've been training all
summer, finalizing equipment, setting skeds, and generally getting all the
loose ends tied up, and we look to be ready to go.

We have posted our Final pass schedule on the K6R QRZ page at
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/K6R - so feel free to find a pass that is to your
liking. We have tried hard to include everyone in our distance range on at
least 1 or 2 passes. Of course all passes are dependent on weather,
schedule, and other factors - and there's a very good chance we'll show up
on passes that AREN'T on our list as well.. find a window, and see if we're
around.

We're also happy to announce that Jimmy, KK6FAH will be serving as our pilot
relay station for the expedition. He's a fellow AMSAT operator, and has a
QTH right in Ventura, and we should be in local repeater range of each other
while we're on the Island. We have agreed to meet up each evening and report
our logs to him, and he will then pass our report on to the BB. Please do
not email him  with questions about busted calls or the like, he's simply
going to be passing on our reports. He's also been awesome in helping us
with some local arrangements, and we appreciate his assistance with this
project greatly.

I'd also like to make a brief request for folks to use some good situational
awareness while we're out there. We know this is a rare grid and there's
tons of interest, but remember that the birds and pass time are a scarce
resource. We're hoping with lots of scheduled passes there should be more
than enough air time to get everyone worked that wants it, but use some
common sense. If you have linear capability, find us on one of those birds,
and leave SO-50 for the FM only operators. If you're on the West coast and
can work us on a higher pass where the east coast doesn't have a footprint,
consider delaying to give them a chance. If you can handle taking a night
off from using SO-50 as your ragchew repeater in the sky, that'd be great
too... and please try to keep the dupes to a minimum - you never know when
someone is just sliding into the footprint and only has 30 seconds to make
that precious QSO. Thanks in advance.

Finally, we're planning to do a very informal round table on 20 meters
Saturday night at 8:00 PDT. Clayton, W5PFG has agreed to find us a frequency
(probably the upper portion of 20m) and send out a tweet on where we will
be. We'd love to have you stop by on HF and chat about Satellite stuff, the
expedition, or "Am I in the log?" that night.

It's expedition go time. Hope to catch everyone from CM93!

73!

Dave, KG5CCI
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From wmy at isac.gov.in  Thu Sep  8 02:45:18 2016
From: wmy at isac.gov.in (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS])
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 08:15:18 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20160908024123.CE6F42248F@lansing182.amsat.org>

  Hi Team Pratham,
Good wishes and Greetings for the successful launch of PSLV C35 mission and
the early commissioning of Pratham.

with regards

Quoting Nitin Muttin via AMSAT-BB <>:[1]

> Hi Team Pratham,
> Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and
> deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on
> 437.455 Mhz is activated over France and India.?73
> Nitin [VU3TYG]Secretary, AMSAT INDIA?
>
> ? ? ?From: Aayush Yadav <[1]aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
> To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
> Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week
of
> September. We would be really happy if? you all joined us in receiving
our
> satellite's beacon, details given below:
>
> Beacon:
> Mode: CW
> wpm: 35 words
> Frequency: 145.980 MHz
>
> Downlink:
> Mode: FSK
> Baudrate: 1200 bps
> Frequency: 437.455 MHz
> (To be switched on over France and India only)
>
> We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.
>
> Kind Regards.
> Team Pratham
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From dave at druidnetworks.com  Thu Sep  8 03:48:43 2016
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 22:48:43 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] sat remote
In-Reply-To: <01ed01d20967$9ede0e80$dc9a2b80$@net>
References: <01ed01d20967$9ede0e80$dc9a2b80$@net>
Message-ID: <CANq+eyUqvjkR_E=V7Vuf=rtQvY3KM_n3s0gxQGxXaGLo81Yn6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Since I literally just wrote a blog entry about this yesterday, I'll
shamelessly post the link for review:
http://www.kg5cci.com/2016/09/missing-dx-cause-youre-dx.html

I will emphasize that my setup was built with duct tape and bailing wire..
it is NOT meant to be a permanent configuration, but it is getting the job
done for what I need it for. I also would not have even thought my config
would be possible, if not for the assistance of some seriously pro
operators who gave me tons of tips and encouragement. I will let those ops
speak for themselves if they want to share their config.. but I'm happy to
share mine.

73!

-Dave, KG5CCI

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Jeff Griffin <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:

> Is anyone presently operating satellites remotely? If so what is your
> setup?
> Just curious, we just had a conversation about remote ops on XW-2A.
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> _______________________________________________
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> expressed
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From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 04:24:49 2016
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 23:24:49 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] sat remote
In-Reply-To: <CANq+eyUqvjkR_E=V7Vuf=rtQvY3KM_n3s0gxQGxXaGLo81Yn6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01ed01d20967$9ede0e80$dc9a2b80$@net>
	<CANq+eyUqvjkR_E=V7Vuf=rtQvY3KM_n3s0gxQGxXaGLo81Yn6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57d0e80c.0970240a.e9901.54b8@mx.google.com>

Jeff asked:
> Is anyone presently operating satellites remotely?

John, K8YSE, wrote an article about his remote satellite station in the
January/February 2014 AMSAT Journal.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org



From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 04:30:21 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 21:30:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] sat remote
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References: <01ed01d20967$9ede0e80$dc9a2b80$@net>
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Hi Joanne!

Any way to get a copy of that article?

Thanks and 73!

Fernando, NP4JV

On Sep 7, 2016 9:24 PM, "JoAnne K9JKM" <joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeff asked:
> > Is anyone presently operating satellites remotely?
>
> John, K8YSE, wrote an article about his remote satellite station in the
> January/February 2014 AMSAT Journal.
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
>
>
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From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 08:14:20 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 13:44:20 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Thank you for your wishes.

The FSK downlink contains only the health monitoring data of the satellite
and is used for payload calculations. IPGP university in france requested
us for the payload data for their scientific research thus we are switching
on the telemetry only over India and France.

However the CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be received
from anywhere.

Kind regards,
Team Pratham

On Thursday 8 September 2016, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in> wrote:

> Hi Team Pratham,
>
> Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and
> deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on 437.455
> Mhz is activated over France and India.
>
> 73
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
> Secretary, AMSAT INDIA
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aayushyadav825 at gmail.com');>>
> *To:* "amsat-bb at amsat.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','amsat-bb at amsat.org');>" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AMSAT-BB at amsat.org');>>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
> Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of
> September. We would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving our
> satellite's beacon, details given below:
>
> Beacon:
> Mode: CW
> wpm: 35 words
> Frequency: 145.980 MHz
>
> Downlink:
> Mode: FSK
> Baudrate: 1200 bps
> Frequency: 437.455 MHz
> (To be switched on over France and India only)
>
> We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.
>
> Kind Regards.
> Team Pratham
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org.
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AMSAT-BB at amsat.org.');> AMSAT-NA makes this
> open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>

From kb2m at arrl.net  Thu Sep  8 13:07:54 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:07:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 70cm Landwehr preamp
Message-ID: <02be01d209d2$03f9a440$0bececc0$@net>

Does anyone have a working 70cm Landwehr preamp that they might want to
sell?

 

73 Jeff kb2m


From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Sep  8 13:14:33 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:14:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Important AMSAT-NA Reminders
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpbK_C3yVJoCiphiuBfHF08sDfTmZ_X3+9xhTuf0Fj8Uw@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning,

I have a few reminders regarding upcoming AMSAT events:

1. Ballots for the Board of Directors election are due at the AMSAT-NA
office in one week (September 15, 2016). Please mail your ballots in
today. Ballots that arrive after the close of business on September
15th will not be counted.

2. The 2016 AMSAT-NA Space Symposium and General Meeting will be held
aboard the Carnival Liberty November 10th - November 14th. If you have
not yet booked your cruise and plan on attending, please do so as soon
as possible. See here for further information:

http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667

3. If you have already booked your cruise, please remember to register
for the Symposium. You can register via the AMSAT online store here:

http://store.amsat.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=39

4. If you plan to attend the Symposium and wish to bring radios to
operate, please remember that the Carnival Liberty is registered in
Panama. US licensed amateur operators wishing to operate at sea must
obtain an IARP from the ARRL. Details are available at the following
site:

http://www.arrl.org/iarp

Unfortunately, obtaining a license for operation in Mexico or within
Mexican territorial waters is likely not possible at this time.

5. If you wish to contribute a paper to the Symposium Proceedings
and/or present at the Symposium, please email Dan Schultz
(n8fgv at amsat.org) with a proposed title as soon as possible,
preferably by September 15th. Final papers must be submitted by
October 15th for publication in the printed Proceedings.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Secretary
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)

From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Thu Sep  8 16:44:51 2016
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 17:44:51 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Data Warehouse Short Outage
Message-ID: <96A27BF2-72D0-4A01-86D0-B797A3C27789@g4dpz.me.uk>

Hi,

We noticed that UKube position was not being reported correctly so the data server had to be restarted.

The Dashboards should have caught up. The display server was unaffected.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

73

- Dave

From kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  8 18:34:11 2016
From: kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Cor_PD=D8RKC?=)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:34:11 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sunday 11 september 2016 balloon fox hunt with U/V FM
	transponder!
Message-ID: <HE1PR09MB06973FEAD111AB10FDCC3692C2FB0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>


Hello radio friends,

At Sunday 11 september 2016 is a balloon fox hunt event.
A weather balloon will be launched with U/V FM transponder, 23cm ATV transmitter and
beacon (tone) transmitter.
The weather balloon will be launched from the Netherlands, amateur radio stations in nearby -
countries have to wait a while to hear the signals untill the balloon reach an higher -
altitude! (the maximal altitude might reach 30km it also did in the past!).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Balloon transmitters frequency information:
Beacon:  145.450 MHz (100 mW FM/N).
FM crossband voice transponder uplink: 432.550MHz downlink: 145.475MHz (1 Watt FM/N).
ATV video transmitter 1252 MHz     (1 Watt FM, camera looking down to earth).
The balloon camera video stream can be world wide seen on the website (see the urls below).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground control stations:
PI4RCG      7.080 kHz, 3.650 kHz (+/- 10kHz QRM).
PI2NOS     430.125 MHz (+1.6 Shift) ground repeater in the Netherlands (also audible via echolink).
PI3UTR     145.575 MHz (-0.6 Shift / 77Hz) ground repeater in the Netherlands (also audible via echolink).

The official balloon fox hunt website and social media websites:
https://www.ballonvossenjacht.nl (you can choose the English language from the menu).
http://www.facebook.com/ballonvossenjacht
https://twitter.com/ballonvosjacht (often with quick update news messages!).

73's Cor PD0RKC


From sqrtofone at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  8 18:53:43 2016
From: sqrtofone at yahoo.com (Jay Cox)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:53:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seeking Assistance - SatPC32 to HDSDR
References: <1758618254.437281.1473360823227.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1758618254.437281.1473360823227@mail.yahoo.com>

Sorry if this is old.

What are you using to get the two to talk to each other?
I've used vspManager from K5FR without issue to talk to get Sat32PC to talk to HDSDR which was driving my SDRPlay.
If you aren't getting any COM port errors, that's a good sign. ?You might try using something like?PuTTY to look at the other end of your virtual serial port setup to see if SatPC32 is talking through the port. ?When a CAT session starts, you should see some letters pop up, like "FA;" (for the selected TS2000 radio).

Maybe your problem is something sill like forgetting to make sure "CAT to HDSDR" is activated.

Jay Cox KG5BZW



> On Sep 4, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Ken Alexander <k.alexander at rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> For the past several days I've been trying to get SatPC32 and HDSDR to communicate with each other via VSP Manager.? HDSDR is controlling an Airspy.
> 
> I have followed the instruction in the SatPC Help files.? In fact, everything seems relatively straightforward, except neither software knows the other is there and there is no communication. I have received some help from a few people on the @Amsat Twitter group who use this same setup successfully, but still no luck.
> 
> I'm hoping to get this up and running in time for my grid expedition to EO91 at the end of this month so I do have a few weeks.? However, I don't know what else to try.? any assistance would be gratefully accepted!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Ken Alexander
> VE3HLS
> 
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From w5pfg at amsat.org  Fri Sep  9 02:10:46 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 21:10:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] PJ6Y and 4Z5RR
In-Reply-To: <B04185BD-06C4-444E-A235-37C42D49BE08@hamradio.world>
References: <B04185BD-06C4-444E-A235-37C42D49BE08@hamradio.world>
Message-ID: <57D21A26.3050701@amsat.org>

I have heard this 4Z5RR call sign on several occasions.  Once, he even 
repeated my call sign back perfectly.

This station is active when parts of Central America, the Caribbean, and 
northernmost South America are in mutual footprint with my QTH in East 
Texas.

It doesn't seem like a valid operation but I have no way to verify it.  
It would be nice to get a corrected call sign for this station.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 9/6/2016 21:19, James G. Lea wrote:
> I have been listening to the recordings for PJ6Y to make sure that we have everyone in the log and I heard 4Z5RR give one of the operators a call.  The accent the guy has sounds like he is from the islands, and he doesn?t seem to know how to work the birds, so I suspect that this is a bootleg call.  Does anyone know about this guy?  There is no way we worked him from Israel on SO-50.
>
> Also, the leadership for the Youth DX Adventure refuses to use LOTW and will not allow me to upload to LOTW.  If you worked PJ6Y on HF or satellite, please QSL to the address on QRZ.
>
>
> 73,
>
> James Lea - WX4TV
> ARRL Section Youth Coordinator - Northern Florida Section
> +1 (386) 414-0788
>
> Want to learn more about all that Ham Radio has to offer?
> Check out http://www.HamRadio.World <http://www.hamradio.world/>!
>
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Sep  9 02:38:53 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 22:38:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] PJ6Y and 4Z5RR
In-Reply-To: <57D21A26.3050701@amsat.org>
References: <B04185BD-06C4-444E-A235-37C42D49BE08@hamradio.world>
	<57D21A26.3050701@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrH++doBNTHpwykrbGzx9+17-NGJFzgcfi9moPJB_2PGg@mail.gmail.com>

When I first "worked" this station, I thought the callsign was 6Y5RR.
As with Clayton, he did repeat my callsign back to me fine, though his
audio was very low.

That callsign doesn't seem to appear in QRZ or anywhere else, so I
contacted the Jamaican Amateur Radio Association who said that 6Y5RR
may be held by ZF1RR (I have confirmed that it definitely was in the
1990s). I sent an email to ZF1RR to inquire, but never received a
reply.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg at amsat.org> wrote:
> I have heard this 4Z5RR call sign on several occasions.  Once, he even
> repeated my call sign back perfectly.
>
> This station is active when parts of Central America, the Caribbean, and
> northernmost South America are in mutual footprint with my QTH in East
> Texas.
>
> It doesn't seem like a valid operation but I have no way to verify it.  It
> would be nice to get a corrected call sign for this station.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
>
>
> On 9/6/2016 21:19, James G. Lea wrote:
>>
>> I have been listening to the recordings for PJ6Y to make sure that we have
>> everyone in the log and I heard 4Z5RR give one of the operators a call.  The
>> accent the guy has sounds like he is from the islands, and he doesn?t seem
>> to know how to work the birds, so I suspect that this is a bootleg call.
>> Does anyone know about this guy?  There is no way we worked him from Israel
>> on SO-50.
>>
>> Also, the leadership for the Youth DX Adventure refuses to use LOTW and
>> will not allow me to upload to LOTW.  If you worked PJ6Y on HF or satellite,
>> please QSL to the address on QRZ.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> James Lea - WX4TV
>> ARRL Section Youth Coordinator - Northern Florida Section
>> +1 (386) 414-0788
>>
>> Want to learn more about all that Ham Radio has to offer?
>> Check out http://www.HamRadio.World <http://www.hamradio.world/>!
>>
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>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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From mikesprenger at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 03:12:09 2016
From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 23:12:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] sat remote
In-Reply-To: <01ed01d20967$9ede0e80$dc9a2b80$@net>
References: <01ed01d20967$9ede0e80$dc9a2b80$@net>
Message-ID: <CAB4zG_LMa=2+xPVzEsacYfasPtJJy4KsG=pcJ9n1wA73QeYngQ@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff,

Yes, setup consists of:

Hardware:  (The only thing I bought new is the Arduino, patience is the
prerequisite)

Windows 10 PC

USB Camera

Icom IC9100 with preamps
G5400 Rotor on 28' of Rohn 25

M2 Antennas

Arduino USB Rotor Interface with K5NG code and a home brew shield

Software -

SatPC32 (Radio/Rotor control)
Skype

(For Audio transport from the PC at the station to the remote PC

TeamViewer (Remote Access client - thanks Clayton W5PFG for this great find
!!!)


An IC-910H or FT-847 or IC-820/821H with a SignalLINK(or equivalent sound
card) could be substituted for the 9100 for a single radio approach with a
USB to CI-5 interface to control the radio using SATPC32.

A dual radio approach could be workable, just need more work to get the RX
audio into the signallink and audio /PTT from the Signallink to the TX
radio.

I have USB camera in the station facing radio too so I can see the Radio
front panel when remote which is helpful, given skype is a video app, plus
the radio can see me looking at it via my laptop webcam when I'm not there
which could be considered to be important when giving "that look" at the
radio <grin>

Glad to discuss if its helpful to anyone.

73
Mike
W4UOO


On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Jeff Griffin <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:

> Is anyone presently operating satellites remotely? If so what is your
> setup?
> Just curious, we just had a conversation about remote ops on XW-2A.
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
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-- 
Thanks,
Mike Sprenger
(37.9167N  81.1244W is the Summit)

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Fri Sep  9 02:26:36 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan Green)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 19:26:36 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] PJ6Y and 4Z5RR
In-Reply-To: <57D21A26.3050701@amsat.org>
References: <B04185BD-06C4-444E-A235-37C42D49BE08@hamradio.world>
	<57D21A26.3050701@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <35E46E70-25B1-4EE0-A1E2-2407796FD5D5@kl7cn.net>

Maybe PZ5-something-something?

Suriname is reasonable for that part of the world. 

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 19:10, Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> I have heard this 4Z5RR call sign on several occasions.  Once, he even repeated my call sign back perfectly.
> 
> This station is active when parts of Central America, the Caribbean, and northernmost South America are in mutual footprint with my QTH in East Texas.
> 
> It doesn't seem like a valid operation but I have no way to verify it.  It would be nice to get a corrected call sign for this station.
> 
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
> 
>> On 9/6/2016 21:19, James G. Lea wrote:
>> I have been listening to the recordings for PJ6Y to make sure that we have everyone in the log and I heard 4Z5RR give one of the operators a call.  The accent the guy has sounds like he is from the islands, and he doesn?t seem to know how to work the birds, so I suspect that this is a bootleg call.  Does anyone know about this guy?  There is no way we worked him from Israel on SO-50.
>> 
>> Also, the leadership for the Youth DX Adventure refuses to use LOTW and will not allow me to upload to LOTW.  If you worked PJ6Y on HF or satellite, please QSL to the address on QRZ.
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> James Lea - WX4TV
>> ARRL Section Youth Coordinator - Northern Florida Section
>> +1 (386) 414-0788
>> 
>> Want to learn more about all that Ham Radio has to offer?
>> Check out http://www.HamRadio.World <http://www.hamradio.world/>!
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Fri Sep  9 07:24:09 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 03:24:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-09 06:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <6e53f.326eeede.4503bd99@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-09  06:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence KS, direct via  KC?NFL
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled  astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS 
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-09-09  16:25:42 UTC 56 deg

Lewis and Clark National Historic Park,  Astoria, OR, telebridge via W6SRJ 
(***)
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ  (***)
Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-09-10 17:03:19 UTC 43 deg  (***)

C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate  Rubins KG5FYJ (***) 
Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC 52 deg  (***)


****************************************************************************
**
Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with  117

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-09 06:30 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1081. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1046. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-08-24 02:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From quadpugh at bellsouth.net  Fri Sep  9 07:47:46 2016
From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 02:47:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] test email
Message-ID: <010e01d20a6e$7538e930$5faabb90$@bellsouth.net>

this is a test email

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

nick

Office   337 593 8700

Cell      337 258 2527

 

Helping UL become a world Class Engineering  and Educational School

Disagree I Learn

 

 


From dave at g4dpz.me.uk  Fri Sep  9 11:20:37 2016
From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 12:20:37 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUN cube Data Warehouse Changes
Message-ID: <8D96B2A7-F7EF-4520-BBD7-EF41943F6F15@g4dpz.me.uk>

Hi,

I need to upgrade some of the software we use to support the warehouse over the next few days.

In particular moving from:

 java 1.7 to java 1.8

and 

Tomcat 1.7 to 1.8

Both of which I have to say have been extremely stable but do not allow us to move forward with other functions.

There will initially be a a few outages of the UI (the data collection will continue to run)

If that is successful the data service will be stopped and moved to the new platform (the dashboards will recover from the outage)

All this is in preparation for supporting Nayif-1 and eventually ESEO.

There may be another move in the next few months to the Amazon Web Services platform for stability (some of you helped with that
experiment a few weeks ago)

As always, many thanks to all those that supply us with data.

Over 4M packets processed!

73

Dave, G4DPZ


From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 11:23:57 2016
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 06:23:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lawrence Public Library ARISS Contact today - uplink?
Message-ID: <CAEWsTrPHAKdpobushNuEDowxh3XWie2xZUv33FLWZDZmW=G8yg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All

I live fairly close to Lawrence KS and am hoping to be able to hear the
library side of it as well. Is their uplink frequency 145.200 or is it a
state secret to prevent unauthorized transmission (=


I just plan on listening, but it would be great to hear both sides of the
split


Thanks

Sean
AA0AN

From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Sep  9 11:40:50 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 07:40:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lawrence Public Library ARISS Contact today - uplink?
In-Reply-To: <CAEWsTrPHAKdpobushNuEDowxh3XWie2xZUv33FLWZDZmW=G8yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEWsTrPHAKdpobushNuEDowxh3XWie2xZUv33FLWZDZmW=G8yg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqiQXixAy_V_Vhv=m9q7v0L2nTaXQo2pA4iufFzVExwzw@mail.gmail.com>

"State secret" for the reason you described.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Friday, September 9, 2016, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All
>
> I live fairly close to Lawrence KS and am hoping to be able to hear the
> library side of it as well. Is their uplink frequency 145.200 or is it a
> state secret to prevent unauthorized transmission (=
>
>
> I just plan on listening, but it would be great to hear both sides of the
> split
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sean
> AA0AN
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From richard.siff at verizon.net  Fri Sep  9 12:00:57 2016
From: richard.siff at verizon.net (Rich/wa4bue)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:00:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] YOUTH FORUM VB HAMFEST
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqiQXixAy_V_Vhv=m9q7v0L2nTaXQo2pA4iufFzVExwzw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEWsTrPHAKdpobushNuEDowxh3XWie2xZUv33FLWZDZmW=G8yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOqiQXixAy_V_Vhv=m9q7v0L2nTaXQo2pA4iufFzVExwzw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3003790CEB54400E915620DD785E9D08@BanjoPC>

Good morning AMSAT

This Saturday at the Virginia Beach, VA HAMFEST the K4AMG Memorial AMATEUR 
RADIO CLUB, INC., will be fund raising at the flea market.

At 0900 we will hold our 10th YOUTH FORUM.

This year we will present Carissa Ferguson KJ4EYA with the "YOUTH PLAQUE 
AWARD" for High Score in the Virginia QSO PARTY.

NOTE: EACH QSO PARTY SHOULD HAVE A YOUTH AWARD.

Presenters:

Hope KM4IPF will talk on her SATCOM Operations.
Faith Hanna AE4FH will talk about her SABA ISLAND DX trip.

John W4RMY will speak about his ham radio club at Great Bridge High School 
in Chesapeake, VA, which K4AMG sponsors.

If you are in VB this Saturday visit us at the HAMFEST.

R
W4BUE
Founder K4AMG
K4AMG.org
K4AMG is a Public Charity 501c3


From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Fri Sep  9 18:44:38 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 14:44:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Lewis and Clark National
	Historic Park, Astoria, OR
Message-ID: <1744613F1A0A48A182DE372AD3DF359A@DHJ>

Please note that this is contact first attempted as a direct, has been rescheduled as a telebridge for Sept. 10, 2016. 

 

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR on 10 Sept. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 17:03 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be audible over the west coast of the U.S. and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

Thomas Jefferson was a scientist and a pioneer in many fields of study including biology, geography, meteorology, and ethnology.  Since at least 1793 he had been planning for an exploration of the largest remaining unexplored land on earth: the American West.  This resulted in the four pages of detailed instructions that he gave to Meriwether Lewis during their 1801-03 planning for the voyage of the Corps of Discovery.   The resulting 1804-06 U.S. Army expedition to explore along the Missouri and Columbia Rivers was led by Captains Meriwether Lewis and William Clark.  The 33 diverse members of the Corps spent the winter of 1805-06 at a campsite they built just a few miles from the mouth of the Columbia River and named after the local Clatsop Indians.  At Fort Clatsop, the captains planned for the return journey to the United States and worked on writing scientific descriptions of the plants and animals they'd encountered that were new to science (a total of 178 species of plants and 122 animals by the end of the trip).  Like President Thomas Jefferson and Captain Meriwether Lewis, today's astronauts have a curiosity for exploring beyond known frontiers.  

 

Some local students who have participated in various education programs at Lewis and Clark National Historical Park and live in surrounding Clatsop County have been learning about the International Space Station (ISS) and are hoping to have a brief radio conversation with an ISS astronaut.   All of these students live in Clatsop County and are familiar with the park through field trips, park summer camps, family visits, or education programs with rangers visiting their classrooms. The park connected with these students through four relationships: 

1. The Northwest Regional Educational Service District and the Astoria School District offer a migrant summer school to serve students who have moved within the last three years for their parent's work.  Several of these students participated in summer camps that the park offered and they were excited about the opportunity to learn about the International Space Station and talk with an astronaut.

2.  Three small local Girl Scout Troops (#10025, #10026, #10086) were interested in this opportunity as they have been focusing on the three keys to Girl Scouting which are Discovering, Connecting, and Taking Action.  The girls and their leaders were happy to incorporate this ARISS opportunity into their projects.

3.  The Fort Clatsop District of Boy Scouts includes local troop #509 and #542.  Since Scouting is about character development and having confidence in yourself to Be Prepared, the ARISS program is a good challenge for these youngsters.  Their district is named in honor of the 1805-06 winter encampment of the 33 people of the Lewis and Clark Expedition .

4.  Three of the youth recruited for this special program are children or grandchildren of Lewis and Clark National Historical Park rangers and were excited to learn that an astronaut radio conversation would be happening in their park.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1.  To prepare for his journey, Captain Meriwether Lewis was tutored by 

    experts in medicine, navigation, astronomy, mathematics, botany, and 

    paleontology.  What was the hardest part of your training?

2.  The Corps of Discovery enjoyed fiddle music, do you listen to music in 

    space? If so, what kind?

3.  How different does your body feel in microgravity and how long does it 

    take to adjust after arrival in the space station? 

4.  Lewis and Clark failed to find a Northwest Passage.  Have any of your 

    experiments failed or not gone like you wanted? 

5.  While wintering at Fort Clatsop, the Corps of Discovery made buckskin 

    clothes as their uniforms wore out. How many outfits of clothing do you 

    have with you, and what kind of material are they made from?

6.  Why do you like communicating with kids? 

7.  Meriwether Lewis treasured an ermine scarf he received from a Shoshone     

    chief.  Do you have a souvenir from space? If so, what is it? 

8.  Do you create art from the views from the space station? 

9.  When is your next spacewalk?  What is your favorite thing when you are 

    outside the space station? 

10.  Lewis brought his dog Seaman with him on the expedition. Are there any 

     research animals on the space station now? If so, what are they?

11.  Although most members of the Corps of Discovery were single, York and 

     John Shields had families at home. Do you miss your family, and how do 

     you communicate with them?

12.  Do you guys keep journal like Lewis and Clark did? 

13.  If a microorganism changed genetically on the International Space 

     Station would it be considered a space alien? 

14.  Were you in a scouting program as a child?  If so, did it affect your 

     desire to work in space? 

15.  Lewis and Clark played backgammon.  What games do you play? 

16.  When Sacagawea became sick, Lewis treated her. If you get hurt or sick, 

     who treats you?

17.  What are your space suits made of, and can they catch on fire?

18.  How do you protect your eyes when the space station is facing the sun?

19.  Are you doing any experiments with animals adapting to microgravity? 

20.  What does a shooting star or a meteor shower look like from space?

 

 

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Next planned event(s):

 

         1.  C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ
             The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
             The scheduled astronaut is Kate  Rubins KG5FYJ  
             Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC 

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

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From kk5do at amsat.org  Fri Sep  9 21:02:01 2016
From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 16:02:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Awards Update
Message-ID: <726b62bb-51b6-4dbf-8cf1-21f0257cc254@amsat.org>

Congrats to all who have earned an AMSAT Award since the last posting.


AMSAT Satellite Communicators Award for making their first satellite QSO
Peter Laws, N5UWY
Jose de Jesus Moura Costa, PS8E
Mac Cody, AE5PH
Bernard Van Haecke, KI6TSF
Burns Fisher, W2BFJ
------

AMSAT Communications Achievement Award
Robert Beatty, WB4SON #569
------

AMSAT Sexagesimal Award
Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV #173
------


AMSAT Century Club Award
Kevin Manzer, N4UFO #47
------

AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Award
Yanko Yankov, NX9G #87  1000+
------

73...bruce


To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or
http://www.amsatnet.com/awards.html


Bruce Paige, KK5DO
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards


ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0200z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes





From zmetzing at pobox.com  Sat Sep 10 00:14:33 2016
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 19:14:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lawrence Public Library ARISS Contact today - uplink?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqiQXixAy_V_Vhv=m9q7v0L2nTaXQo2pA4iufFzVExwzw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEWsTrPHAKdpobushNuEDowxh3XWie2xZUv33FLWZDZmW=G8yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOqiQXixAy_V_Vhv=m9q7v0L2nTaXQo2pA4iufFzVExwzw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9905E2E3-CF65-4973-9602-6F9F38F2E2A1@pobox.com>

On September 9, 2016 6:40:50 AM CDT, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>"State secret" for the reason you described.
>
>73,
>
>Paul, N8HM
>
>On Friday, September 9, 2016, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All
>>
>> I live fairly close to Lawrence KS and am hoping to be able to hear
>the
>> library side of it as well. Is their uplink frequency 145.200 or is
>it a
>> state secret to prevent unauthorized transmission (=
>>
>>
>> I just plan on listening, but it would be great to hear both sides of
>the
>> split
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sean
>> AA0AN
>> _______________________________________________
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>> forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> expressed
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>of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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Security through obscurity is no security at all.

The satellite sub-band isn't that wide. Attach rtl-sdr dongle to antenna and watch the waterfall.
--- Zach

From mccardelm at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 02:55:52 2016
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 22:55:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wednesday AO-85 contact ~1642utc
Message-ID: <E8708BE7-B113-4585-B1A6-80A90F52B0F0@gmail.com>

I worked someone on AO-85 Wed Sept 7 approximately 1642UTC +/- 
The beginning of the passed was marked with a safe mode announcement.

My recording failed and I didn't write down the information and my memory is failing me. If someone has a recording I would appreciate if you could share it. If you were the contact, please contact me off list.

Thank you,

EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
Sent from my iPhone

From AJ9N at aol.com  Sat Sep 10 09:50:51 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 05:50:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-10 07:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <731e.654c0aad.4505317a@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-10  07:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence KS, direct via  KC?NFL
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled  astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS 
Contact was successful: Fri 2016-09-09  16:25:42 UTC 56 deg (***)

Lewis and Clark National Historic Park,  Astoria, OR, telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to  be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact is a go  for: Sat 2016-09-10 17:03:19 UTC 43 deg

C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n,  Spain, direct via EA7URJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact is a go for:  Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC 52  deg


****************************************************************************
**Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  indiv
idually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with  117

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-10 07:30 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1081. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1046. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-09-10 07:30 UTC.  
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Sat Sep 10 16:17:45 2016
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:17:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DM92
Message-ID: <10D77C5C1C61475AA2D46C33ED93E11A@AA5PKPC>

The WX should be clear tomorrow (raining today), so I'll trek to DM92 for a couple of passes.

AO-85 at ~1541Z
FO-29 at ~1633Z
AO-85 at ~1721Z.

Glenn / AA5PK

From kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 10 17:49:01 2016
From: kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Cor_PD=D8RKC?=)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:49:01 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sunday 11 september 2016 balloon fox hunt with U/V FM
	transponder!
Message-ID: <HE1PR09MB0697F9EB97DBB0C3B2ED62D7C2FD0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>



Hello radio friends,


The weather forcast predictions seems to anounce good weather.

Expected balloon launch time shall be 11:00UTC (follow updates on the balloon event website!).

In past years I have heard stations (via the balloon transponder) from:

Belgium, Sweden, Germany, France, UK and ofcoarse the most from the Netherlands.


73's Cor PD0RKC

From df5jl at darc.de  Sat Sep 10 17:56:00 2016
From: df5jl at darc.de (Tom DF5JL)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:56:00 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sunday 11 september 2016 balloon fox hunt with U/V
 FM transponder!
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR09MB0697F9EB97DBB0C3B2ED62D7C2FD0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <HE1PR09MB0697F9EB97DBB0C3B2ED62D7C2FD0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <c677c49b-00e0-157a-66f7-2a6944abbc54@darc.de>

Hi Cor,

wat is de URL van de speciale ballon web site?


Tot ziens, 73 de Tom PA/DF5JL/P in JO11RJ




Am 10.09.2016 um 19:49 schrieb Cor PD?RKC:
>
> Hello radio friends,
>
>
> The weather forcast predictions seems to anounce good weather.
>
> Expected balloon launch time shall be 11:00UTC (follow updates on the balloon event website!).
>
> In past years I have heard stations (via the balloon transponder) from:
>
> Belgium, Sweden, Germany, France, UK and ofcoarse the most from the Netherlands.
>
>
> 73's Cor PD0RKC
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 10 19:25:03 2016
From: kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Cor_PD=D8RKC?=)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:25:03 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sunday 11 september 2016 balloon fox hunt with U/V FM
	transponder!
Message-ID: <HE1PR09MB06971A50C9F9AF6F382F9BCAC2FD0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

>Hi Cor,
>wat is de URL van de speciale ballon web site?
>Tot ziens, 73 de Tom PA/DF5JL/P in JO11RJ


Hello Tom,
All the links to the websites I already had posted in my first message on amsat-bb.
For you I have posted these here again but now I added the PI6ATV website because I think the
23cm ATV transmittor video stream will be shown on that website.

73s Cor PD0RKC

I expect live video from the balloon camera on this website:
http://www.pi6atv.com/ (probably the live stream will be switched on short for the event.

The official balloon fox hunt website and social media websites: https://www.ballonvossenjacht.nl (you can choose the English language from the menu). http://www.facebook.com/ballonvossenjacht https://twitter.com/ballonvosjacht (often with quick update news messages!).


From gp_ab5r at outlook.com  Sat Sep 10 19:54:22 2016
From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:54:22 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
Message-ID: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

73 to ALL,

I am preparing to start the assembly of my "low budget" station and have a couple of question, please.


My first step will employ an azmuthal only inexpensive rotor (RCA VH22F) and a terrestrial use linear  dual band antenna (Jetstream JTBM270).  The antenna has 3 elements for 2m and 5 for 70cm.  I plan to offset the elevation of the antenna 20-30 degrees in a fixed position, rotatable of course.  My radio at this time is an IC-2730 dual band which can be used for the FM birds; I am told.


Having described my "phase one plans", my first question is regarding rotor control.  Does anyone know of a rotor control for a three wire inexpensive rotator?


Regarding the linear antenna, what would the best mounting angle be for polarization.  Yes, I realize that it would not be optimal mounted vertical or horizontal.  I assume that a compromise angle might help.


Let me explain that portable handheld operation is not feasible dues to my age and living circumstances. A fixed station is my only option.  However, that can be improved if necessary and financially feasible.


Thanks to each and all.

73,

Jerry  AB5R



From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 20:07:54 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:07:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnObj=EDJX3rC-LYuLOvjWnj0eRZNM7X5PynKZ2ewtdvmiw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jerry.

I have a setup  very similar to what you describe and also wanted to be
low-budget.

I can't imagine being more pleased with the solution that is spelled out at
the following link:

http://k3rrr.com/cheap-computer-controlled-tv-rotor-for-amsat-satellites-and-includes-free-satellite-tracking-with-pstrotator-and-the-usb-uirt/

... as long as you have a rotator with an IR remote control, the USB IR
device mentioned in the above article works perfectly.

Hope you have as much success  & enjoyment with your setup as I do with
mine.

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA

===========================

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r at outlook.com> wrote:

> 73 to ALL,
>
> I am preparing to start the assembly of my "low budget" station and have a
> couple of question, please.
>
>
> My first step will employ an azmuthal only inexpensive rotor (RCA VH22F)
> and a terrestrial use linear  dual band antenna (Jetstream JTBM270).  The
> antenna has 3 elements for 2m and 5 for 70cm.  I plan to offset the
> elevation of the antenna 20-30 degrees in a fixed position, rotatable of
> course.  My radio at this time is an IC-2730 dual band which can be used
> for the FM birds; I am told.
>
>
> Having described my "phase one plans", my first question is regarding
> rotor control.  Does anyone know of a rotor control for a three wire
> inexpensive rotator?
>
>
> Regarding the linear antenna, what would the best mounting angle be for
> polarization.  Yes, I realize that it would not be optimal mounted vertical
> or horizontal.  I assume that a compromise angle might help.
>
>
> Let me explain that portable handheld operation is not feasible dues to my
> age and living circumstances. A fixed station is my only option.  However,
> that can be improved if necessary and financially feasible.
>
>
> Thanks to each and all.
>
> 73,
>
> Jerry  AB5R

From dan at post.com  Sat Sep 10 20:57:38 2016
From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 21:57:38 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnObj=EDJX3rC-LYuLOvjWnj0eRZNM7X5PynKZ2ewtdvmiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAJCSnObj=EDJX3rC-LYuLOvjWnj0eRZNM7X5PynKZ2ewtdvmiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF3DnKiQSRSiMrMmQAqHRw2wAO9c-gVtFD9G-fcijP69EvPkpg@mail.gmail.com>

If your rotator does not have any proper position feedback you may be
able to add a potentiometer inside it.

See here for info:
http://www.dougbraun.com/rotor_mod.html

You then can build a computer interface to control it based on the feedback.

However for now I would recommend just manually adjusting the rotator.
If the beam width of the antenna is wide then pointing will not be too
critical, and when the satellite is overhead the signal is much
stronger.

In the real world you may not need a computer interface, but you will
need some sort of tracking software to tell you which way to point and
which satellite is passing over. SATPC32 is recommended for its
advanced features, but Orbitron is better for beginners.

From kk5do at arrl.net  Sat Sep 10 21:13:46 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:13:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Just a reminder about Amazon
Message-ID: <fdf8311d-6624-2208-44b3-077e454cbef0@arrl.net>

For those of you that are friends of AMSAT, do not forget when you place 
an order for something place your order at smile.amazon.com and select 
AMSAT as your preferred charity. By doing so, Amazon will donate a small 
percentage of the purchase price to AMSAT. There is no additional cost 
to you, only a benefit to AMSAT.

You can use the amazon.com website as you normally do. However, when it 
is time to pay for things in your cart, that is when you should go to 
smile.amazon.com. Your cart will appear there just as it did at the 
amazon.com site. You do not have to find the items you would like to 
purchase again, just remember to pay for them over on the 
smile.amazon.com site.

73...bruce

-- 

Bruce Paige, KK5DO
                      
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016
   
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
           
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
               
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org

AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat


From df5jl at darc.de  Sat Sep 10 19:31:04 2016
From: df5jl at darc.de (Tom DF5JL)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 21:31:04 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sunday 11 september 2016 balloon fox hunt with U/V
 FM transponder!
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR09MB06971A50C9F9AF6F382F9BCAC2FD0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <HE1PR09MB06971A50C9F9AF6F382F9BCAC2FD0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <9f739d26-0a53-a54e-346b-84b04f01c1fa@darc.de>

Thanks Cor, great service - I'm on a short trip to Zeeland (PA) and
can't get access to older posts. Best 73, tot ziens de Tom PA/DF5JL/P


Am 10.09.2016 um 21:25 schrieb Cor PD?RKC:
>> Hi Cor,
>> wat is de URL van de speciale ballon web site?
>> Tot ziens, 73 de Tom PA/DF5JL/P in JO11RJ
>
> Hello Tom,
> All the links to the websites I already had posted in my first message on amsat-bb.
> For you I have posted these here again but now I added the PI6ATV website because I think the
> 23cm ATV transmittor video stream will be shown on that website.
>
> 73s Cor PD0RKC
>
> I expect live video from the balloon camera on this website:
> http://www.pi6atv.com/ (probably the live stream will be switched on short for the event.
>
> The official balloon fox hunt website and social media websites: https://www.ballonvossenjacht.nl (you can choose the English language from the menu). http://www.facebook.com/ballonvossenjacht https://twitter.com/ballonvosjacht (often with quick update news messages!).
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From k.alexander at rogers.com  Sat Sep 10 22:35:28 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:35:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Settings for HDSDR + FT-817
Message-ID: <75692d01-aadb-4c72-1acd-a01263014dbb@rogers.com>

Hi All,

I received my USB-to-FT-817 interface cable this week, and just finished 
setting up the 817 in SatPC32.  It is controlling transmit frequency on 
the FT-817 and receive frequency on HDSDR just fine.  The current Radio 
Setup has HDSDR as Radio 1 and FT-817 and Radio 2.

Then I read that the CAT Delay is supposed to be set to 110 for an 
FT-817.  However, there is no such setting for Radio 2, only Radio 1.  
CAT Delay for HDSDR is currently set to 20.

Everything seems to be working OK so I am wondering whether I should 
switch the radios in SatPC32 or leave well enough alone.

Any thoughts?

As always, many thanks for any assistance.

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


From k.alexander at rogers.com  Sat Sep 10 22:38:01 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:38:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] One more question
Message-ID: <0d9d15e0-6ad9-d323-aa40-0999b17e5867@rogers.com>

I notice that SatPC32 did not set my FT-817 into Split mode.  I assume 
that's because it recognizes the 2-radio setup and won't be operating 
semi-duplex with one radio.

Correct?

73 - Ken


From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 22:43:06 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:43:06 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] One more question
In-Reply-To: <0d9d15e0-6ad9-d323-aa40-0999b17e5867@rogers.com>
References: <0d9d15e0-6ad9-d323-aa40-0999b17e5867@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHXx8gbRbEvSuu+eTHHqaiU6wvLnRKY2hJjxAjv-SrL_trwMw@mail.gmail.com>

Correct, the FT-817 will serve as transmit only. You can lower the volume
all the way. As for CAT delay, no need on radio 2. I have radio 1 at 20.

You will need to calibrate interval, then the uplink for every satellite
using the CAT menu. My interval is set at 50 for SSB/CW, 500 for FM.

Fernando
NP4JV

On Sep 10, 2016 3:38 PM, "Ken Alexander" <k.alexander at rogers.com> wrote:

> I notice that SatPC32 did not set my FT-817 into Split mode.  I assume
> that's because it recognizes the 2-radio setup and won't be operating
> semi-duplex with one radio.
>
> Correct?
>
> 73 - Ken
>
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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Sat Sep 10 23:30:03 2016
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:30:03 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <001e01d20bbb$41e51dd0$c5af5970$@charter.net>

http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald
Payton
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:54 PM
To: Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help

73 to ALL,

I am preparing to start the assembly of my "low budget" station and have a
couple of question, please.


My first step will employ an azmuthal only inexpensive rotor (RCA VH22F) and
a terrestrial use linear  dual band antenna (Jetstream JTBM270).  The
antenna has 3 elements for 2m and 5 for 70cm.  I plan to offset the
elevation of the antenna 20-30 degrees in a fixed position, rotatable of
course.  My radio at this time is an IC-2730 dual band which can be used for
the FM birds; I am told.


Having described my "phase one plans", my first question is regarding rotor
control.  Does anyone know of a rotor control for a three wire inexpensive
rotator?


Regarding the linear antenna, what would the best mounting angle be for
polarization.  Yes, I realize that it would not be optimal mounted vertical
or horizontal.  I assume that a compromise angle might help.


Let me explain that portable handheld operation is not feasible dues to my
age and living circumstances. A fixed station is my only option.  However,
that can be improved if necessary and financially feasible.


Thanks to each and all.

73,

Jerry  AB5R


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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Sat Sep 10 23:25:13 2016
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:25:13 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <001801d20bba$952554c0$bf6ffe40$@charter.net>

Gerald, since you are doing this on budget, do what I have been doing since
the first contact (up through VUCC #226):

Download the free version of HRD. You can run the sat portion without any
cat control or hook up to the radio. You can also update keps. So, fire up
that program with its beautiful graphics and manually aim your Jetstream
along the path. Simple but works

Also, as Bob Bruninga will tell you, set the EL at 15-20 degrees. He has a
website that explains why, but I don't have the link at hand. I will send
you direct some pixs of my Rat Shack and Elk setup.

Good Luck

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald
Payton
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:54 PM
To: Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help

73 to ALL,

I am preparing to start the assembly of my "low budget" station and have a
couple of question, please.


My first step will employ an azmuthal only inexpensive rotor (RCA VH22F) and
a terrestrial use linear  dual band antenna (Jetstream JTBM270).  The
antenna has 3 elements for 2m and 5 for 70cm.  I plan to offset the
elevation of the antenna 20-30 degrees in a fixed position, rotatable of
course.  My radio at this time is an IC-2730 dual band which can be used for
the FM birds; I am told.


Having described my "phase one plans", my first question is regarding rotor
control.  Does anyone know of a rotor control for a three wire inexpensive
rotator?


Regarding the linear antenna, what would the best mounting angle be for
polarization.  Yes, I realize that it would not be optimal mounted vertical
or horizontal.  I assume that a compromise angle might help.


Let me explain that portable handheld operation is not feasible dues to my
age and living circumstances. A fixed station is my only option.  However,
that can be improved if necessary and financially feasible.


Thanks to each and all.

73,

Jerry  AB5R


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From w4tas at gte.net  Sun Sep 11 00:02:04 2016
From: w4tas at gte.net (Tony Stone)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:02:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Neat and Cheap 5769 amplifier
Message-ID: <157168d0abc-7807-1538c@webstg-a03.mail.aol.com>


I have purchased 4 of these units for experimentation. 
They work very well and are linear at 5760 MHz. 
There is an attenuator in the input line of about 6 db. 
20 mw will get about 0.6 watts out with the attenuator in circuit. 
10 mw will produce about 3 watts output with the attenuator removed. 
Fine for Phase 4 on the uplink with combiners. 
I have two combiners on order and will test two of the ampllifiers 
combined with another ampllifier driving them.  


The SMA connectors are RP units and I changed the connectors 
on mine to regular SMA. 


EBay link is:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/252436361820?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Tony Stone
w4tas at gte.net


From yogiwn9q at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 01:42:22 2016
From: yogiwn9q at gmail.com (David Jaeger)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:42:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
In-Reply-To: <001e01d20bbb$41e51dd0$c5af5970$@charter.net>
References: <MWHPR11MB195216FA3C773A7FC7B7DC2BD0FD0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
	<001e01d20bbb$41e51dd0$c5af5970$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAFABCXDQfvJEepY_yUjH42rhdzZA42EReA0BYmwwMDcfFqKVcg@mail.gmail.com>

Advise and/or Help for Jerry AB5R

I have a cheap RCA VH126 Digital Rotor.  I imagine it is like the one that
you have.  I picked it up for under $80.
It has a remote that comes in handy.  I put together a handy scheme for
programing the the memory.  The front panel
looks like this:

A        B        C        D

E        F        G        H

I         J         K        L

initial      <    >      memory

I programed  the panel to look like this:

360     310     000     040

E        270       G      090

I          220     180    130

initial       <    >      memory






On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:

> http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html
>
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald
> Payton
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:54 PM
> To: Amsat BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
>
> 73 to ALL,
>
> I am preparing to start the assembly of my "low budget" station and have a
> couple of question, please.
>
>
> My first step will employ an azmuthal only inexpensive rotor (RCA VH22F)
> and
> a terrestrial use linear  dual band antenna (Jetstream JTBM270).  The
> antenna has 3 elements for 2m and 5 for 70cm.  I plan to offset the
> elevation of the antenna 20-30 degrees in a fixed position, rotatable of
> course.  My radio at this time is an IC-2730 dual band which can be used
> for
> the FM birds; I am told.
>
>
> Having described my "phase one plans", my first question is regarding rotor
> control.  Does anyone know of a rotor control for a three wire inexpensive
> rotator?
>
>
> Regarding the linear antenna, what would the best mounting angle be for
> polarization.  Yes, I realize that it would not be optimal mounted vertical
> or horizontal.  I assume that a compromise angle might help.
>
>
> Let me explain that portable handheld operation is not feasible dues to my
> age and living circumstances. A fixed station is my only option.  However,
> that can be improved if necessary and financially feasible.
>
>
> Thanks to each and all.
>
> 73,
>
> Jerry  AB5R
>
>
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> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
> all
> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Sun Sep 11 06:33:37 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 02:33:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-11 06:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <12229.308c74d5.450654c1@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-11  06:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR,  telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact was  successful: Sat 2016-09-10 17:03:19 UTC 43 deg (***)

C.E.PR.  Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC 52  deg


****************************************************************************
**
Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

********************
**********************************************************
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with  117

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-11 06:30 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1083. (***)
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1048.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time  slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A  complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-09-11 06:30 UTC.  
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From ku4os at cfl.rr.com  Sun Sep 11 02:59:44 2016
From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 22:59:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-255 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <7a38699f-50e4-98a2-989f-7e3549dd805f@cfl.rr.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-255

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed onhttp://www.amsat.org  publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* RadFxSat (Fox-1B) launch date is now scheduled for March 16, 2017
* AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by September 15th
* AMSAT Awards Update
* ?Frequency Crunch? is ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference
    Sunday Seminar Topic
* 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Registration Reminder
* 5 Teams Share First Round of NASA Cube Quest Challenge Prizes
* 5 GHz to 10 GHz Lunar Transponder Mission
* Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
* Inspiring the next STEM generation
* ARISS to Host On-line Information Sessions - School Contacts
* AMSAT Events
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-255.01
ANS-255 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 255.01
  >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE September 11, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-255.01


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RadFxSat (Fox-1B) launch date is now scheduled for March 16, 2017


The RadFxSat (Fox-1B) launch date has been moved, and is now scheduled
for March 16, 2017.

RadFxSat will ride as one of the ELaNa XIV secondary payloads aboard the
NASA JPSS-1 launch on a ULA Delta II rocket.

The launch will be at Vandenberg AFB, California.  It is one of only two
remaining Delta II planned to be launched.

The RadFxSat mission is a partnership with Vanderbilt Institute for
Space and Defense Electronics (ISDE) that will study space radiation
effects on commercial off the shelf memory.  The experiments are carried
aboard the AMSAT Fox-1B CubeSat and experiment data will be carried in
the subaudible telemetry stream of the Fox-1B FM repeater along with the
CubeSat telemetry data.  The telemetry can be decoded and displayed with
the AMSAT FoxTelem software.


[ANS thanks Jerry Buxton, N0JY AMSAT Vice President, Engineering
for the above information]


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AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by September 15th


Ballots have been mailed to AMSAT-NA members in good standing, and
must be returned to the AMSAT-NA office by September 15, 2016 in order
to be counted. Those sent outside North America were sent by air mail.
If you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for
your QTH, please contact the AMSAT-NA office. Your completed ballot
should be sent as promptly as possible, and those from outside North
American preferably by air mail or other expedited means.

This year there are five candidates:

Tom Clark, K3IO
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Mark Hammond, N8MH
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

The three candidates receiving the highest number of votes will be
seated as voting Board Members with two year terms. The two candidates
receiving the next highest number of votes will be non-voting
Alternate Board Members with terms of one year. Please vote for no
more than three candidates.

Please take the time to review the candidate statements that accompany
the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the Board. Election of
Board members is both an obligation as well as an opportunity by our
membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT-NA.


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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AMSAT Awards Update


Congrats to all who have earned an AMSAT Award since the last posting.

AMSAT Satellite Communicators Award for making their first satellite QSO
Peter Laws, N5UWY
Jose de Jesus Moura Costa, PS8E
Mac Cody, AE5PH
Bernard Van Haecke, KI6TSF
Burns Fisher, W2BFJ
------

AMSAT Communications Achievement Award
Robert Beatty, WB4SON #569
------

AMSAT Sexagesimal Award
Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV #173
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AMSAT Century Club Award
Kevin Manzer, N4UFO #47
------

AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Award
Yanko Yankov, NX9G #87  1000+
------

To see all the awards visithttp://www.amsat.org  or
http://www.amsatnet.com/awards.html


[ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
for the above information]


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?Frequency Crunch? is ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference
Sunday Seminar Topic


?Spectrum (It?s the frequency crunch for real)? will be the Sunday Seminar
topic at the ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC) September
16-18
in St Petersburg, Florida. Michelle Thompson, W5NYV, and Bob McGwier, N4HY,
will moderate the tutorial.

?The Amateur Radio spectrum above 450 MHz is facing serious threats. The
demand for useful spectrum is large and growing,? an abstract for the
presentation asserts. ?We will explain why this spectrum is in demand
and what
you need to know and do in order to defend it.?

The presentation will offer a practical understanding of digital
communication, software-defined radio, codecs, protocols, and cognitive
radio.
Thompson heads the AMSAT Ground Terminal Team, a component of the so-called
?five and dime (5 GHz and 10 GHz) Phase 4B geosynchronous satellite project.
McGwier is chief scientist at the Hume Center for National Security and
Technology at Virginia Tech.

The Saturday night banquet speaker will be ARRL Chief Technology Officer
Brennan Price, N4QX. His topic will be ?New Frontiers in Wireless:
Challenges
to and Opportunities for Amateur Radio.?

http://www.arrl.org/news/frequency-crunch-is-arrl-tapr-digital-communications-
conference-sunday-seminar-topic


[ANS thanks TAPR and the ARRL for the above information]


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2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Registration Reminder

-          Booking your Carnival Cruise does not register you for the
AMSAT Symposium.  There is a charge for each Symposium attendee of
$40.  This fee applies to those who will attend the technical
presentations only and includes a copy of the printed Proceedings.
Additional guests are entitled to attend all other events. The
registration form is available from the AMSAT office or store website.
Online Symposium registration:

http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=130

-          Ground transportation options have been added to the FAQ
page on the AMSAT Symposium web page.  Carnival offers round-trip
transportation from HOU airport to the cruise terminal at
approximately $74 per person, IAH airport $94 per person.  If you are
traveling to the Board of Directors meeting, you may still utilize the
Carnival transportation option for your return to the airport from the
cruise terminal.  However, you will need to obtain other
transportation between the airport and the Galveston DoubleTree hotel.

Cruise information may be found at:
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667


[ANS thanks 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Committee for the above information]


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5 Teams Share First Round of NASA Cube Quest Challenge Prizes


Five teams, ranging from university students to a group of engineers
dispersed across the country, received $20,000 each from NASA in the first
milestone of a competition to develop deep space CubeSat technologies.

The teams, announced by NASA at a Sept. 9 briefing, had the highest
scores in the first of four ?ground tournaments? that make up the initial phase of the
agency?s $5 million Cube Quest Challenge. That tournament, held in early
August, featured 13 teams who presented their initial spacecraft designs.

?Cube Quest is an opportunity for non-government CubeSat developers and
builders to compete in lunar orbit and deep space for accomplishments in
communications, navigation and longevity,? said Jim Cockrell of NASA?s Ames
Research Center. Cockrell is manager of the competition, part of the
agency?s Centennial Challenges prize program.
- See more at:
http://spacenews.com/5-teams-share-first-round-of-nasa-cubesat-
prizes/#sthash.qbwJKlXB.dpuf
The ground tournaments are optional elements of the overall competition,
intended to guide teams through the development of their spacecraft as they
mature from initial concepts to flight hardware. Participating teams are
scored on how well they meet the requirements of each tournament, and the three
with the highest cumulative scores will win flights of their spacecraft as
secondary payloads on the first Space Launch System mission, Exploration Mission 1
(EM-1), in 2018.

The first ground tournament did not involve any hardware, and Cockrell
likened it to a mission concept review that takes place early in the development
of a typical NASA mission. Judges assessed the capabilities of each proposed
mission and compliance with mission rules and SLS safety requirements.

?It was the first opportunity for teams to present their concepts for
how they intend to win the Cube Quest Challenge,? he said. ?Ground Tournament 1
demonstrates that teams are on a good trajectory for launch on EM-1.?

Some of the winning teams are linked to universities that have
experience with CubeSats. A space systems design class at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology started work on the KitCube spacecraft this spring, said Kerri
Cahoy, a professor of aeronautics and astronautics there. KitCube is
designed to go into lunar orbit and demonstrate a laser communications system.

Another team, Cislunar Explorers, is composed mostly of students at Cornell
University. ?The work represents the culmination of lots of Ph.D.-level
research and some undergraduate research from the last five or six years
at the university,? said Mason Peck, a Cornell engineering professor who served as
NASA chief technologist from 2011 to 2013.

Peck said their spacecraft will demonstrate several key technologies,
including a propulsion system that uses solar power to convert water into
hydrogen and oxygen propellants. ?It?s a pathfinder for the sustainable
exploration and settlement of the solar system,? he said.

Other winning teams have less traditional backgrounds. ?There?s 12 of us
across the United States? working on Team Miles, said team leader Wes Faler.
Many of them are located in Tampa, Florida, including Faler, but others are
based in California, New York and South Carolina.

Faler said the team takes its name from a line in a Robert Frost poem: ?And
miles to go before I sleep.? After going into orbit around the Moon, he
said, the spacecraft will perform an extended mission, traveling towards Mars
to test autonomous navigation technology.

Ragnarok Industries of Wilmington, Delaware, was established by a group of
former engineering interns at NASA?s Goddard Space Flight Center. Their
satellite, Heimdallr, is intended to test advanced propulsion and
communications technologies for missions beyond Earth orbit, said
company co- founder Luigi Balarinni.

Novel Engineering of Cocoa Beach, Florida, is working with several other
local companies, including Craig Technologies and Harris Corp., the latter
providing a deployable mesh antenna for its CubeSat, named Space Pig. The name, team
members said, came from elementary school students during an outreach event.

The ultimate goal of the competition is to fly CubeSats into lunar orbit or
deep space. A total of $3 million is offered in prizes for the ?Lunar Derby?
part of the competition, for both being able to enter lunar orbit and to
demonstrate communications capabilities and longevity. An additional $1.5
million is for a ?Deep Space Derby? to achieve communications and longevity
goals.

NASA?s Cockrell said the next ground tournament is scheduled for early 2016.
Teams can participate in that round, which he compared to a preliminary
design review, regardless of their performance, or even participation, in the
August tournament.

Teams that do not participate in the ground tournaments, or who do not
finish in the top three in total points, can still pursue the deep space and lunar
prizes by arranging their own launches. The competition ends, and any prizes
awarded, one year after the EM-1 launch
- See more at:
http://spacenews.com/5-teams-share-first-round-of-nasa-cubesat-
prizes/#sthash.qbwJKlXB.dpuf

AMSAT-NA is partnered with the Ragnarok Industries team. Heimdallr
satellite plans to test advanced propulsion and communications technologies
for missions beyond Earth. AMSAT radio will be aboard. The AMSAT
Groundstation initiative will give amateur radio operators to uplink and downlink to the
lunar satellite.

http://spacenews.com/5-teams-share-first-round-of-nasa-cubesat-prizes/


[ANS thankswww.spacenews.com  for the above information]


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5 GHz to 10 GHz Lunar Transponder Mission


AMSAT-NA plans 5 GHz to 10 GHz transponders on a spacecraft expected to
launch
in September 2018 into a Lunar orbit.

Heimdallr is a 3 axis stabilized 6U CubeSat with a mass of approximately
8 kg. It will have a Cold Gas Thruster for inertia dump and a star tracker for
navigation. Deployable, gimbled solar panels will produce up to 100
watts of DC power, electric propulsion will be used to achieve lunar orbit.

There will be a combination of omni and directional patch antennas on
one side of spacecraft.

The first part of mission is to provide Telemetry, Tracking, and Command
(TT&C) to obtain lunar orbit. The second part is to perform the data
downlink experiment while the final part is to provide a two way regenerative
repeater and analog repeater in lunar orbit for lifetime of satellite.

Proposing these downlinks:
? Omni transponder: 10.451 GHz +/- 0.5 MHz
? Directional transponder: 10.4575 GHz. +/- 3.5 MHz
? Analog transponder: 10.4665 GHz. +/- 2.0 MHz

For the first part of the mission (TT&C) using 300 bps BPSK 1/2 rate viterbi
Ranging 1.5 Mbps BPSK DSSS. For the  second part of mission 4.5 Mbps QPSK ?
rate DVB-S2. For the final part of mission 25 kbps BPSK 1/5 rate DVB-S2.

Proposing these Uplinks
? Omni transponder: 5.651 GHz +/- 0.5 MHz
? Directional transponder: 5.6575 GHz. +/- 3.5 MHz
? Analog transponder: 5.665 GHz. +/- 2 MHz

A link budget is available at
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3u-mSOWBMISYnZyZGJpeThKeU0&usp=sharing

It is anticipated that a 1 or 2 metre dish will be required using the AMSAT
designed ground station equipment.

Source IARU Satellite Frequency Coordination Status pages
http://www.amsat.org.uk/iaru/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and the IARU for the above information]


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Pratham: IITB Student Satellite


The satellite Pratham, built by students at the Indian Institute of
Technology Bombay, is expected to launch on the Indian PSLV-C35 mission currently
planned for September 26, 2016.

Pratham, a 300x300x300mm satellite with a mass of 10 kg, aims to measure
total electron count in a 800 km altitude Sun Synchronous Orbit (SSO).

Aayush Yadav of the Pratham team writes:

We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of
September. We would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving our satellite?s
beacon, details given below:

Beacon:
Mode: CW
wpm: 35 words
Frequency: 145.980 MHz
(The CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be received from
anywhere.)

Downlink:
Mode: FSK
Baudrate: 1200 bps
Frequency: 437.455 MHz
(To be switched on over France and India only)

We will update the information as soon as TLE?s will be available.

Further information at
http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/pratham/

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/iitb.student.satellite/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and Team Pratham for the above information]


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Inspiring the next STEM generation


The UK Space Agency?s Astronaut Flight Education Program Support Manager
Susan Buckle will be giving a presentation at the RSGB Convention on
Saturday, October 8.

Along with Ciaran Morgan M0XTD, she will talk about the ten UK ARISS amateur
radio school contacts with astronaut Tim Peake GB1SS during his Principia
mission on the International Space Station.

These contacts have inspired thousands of young people and introduced
them to amateur radio in a new and exciting way.

The full schedule and booking information for the convention are
available at
http://rsgb.org/convention  Twitter hashtag #RSGBconv2016

An RSGB video celebrates these historic school contacts and the range of
linked activities the schools have enjoyed.

Beginning with the exhilaration of the launch, it follows the
competition for schools to host the ARISS contacts, and showcases the variety of science,
technology, engineering, maths (STEM) and arts activities that helped
pupils to understand more about space and amateur radio.

The contacts themselves, often led by newly-licensed pupils, were the
successful culmination of many months of work and anticipation.

ARISS Principia
https://principia.ariss.org/

AMSAT-UK Article
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/10/inspiring-the-next-stem-generation/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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ARISS to Host On-line Information Sessions - School Contacts


To help organizations learn about ARISS radio contacts and the proposal
process, ARISS offers one-hour online information sessions; all questions
are welcomed. Attending an online session is not required but strongly
encouraged.

Informational sessions will be offered Sept. 20, 2016, at 4 p.m. EDT and
Sept. 28, 2016, at 7 p.m. EDT.

Advance registration is necessary. Email ARISS (ariss at arrl.org) to sign
up for an information session.

For proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal
guidelines and proposal form, visit:
http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

ARISS Contact Application Window Open Until November 1

ARISS-US is now accepting proposals from U.S. schools, museums, science
centers and community youth organizations (working individually or together)
to host an Amateur Radio on the International Space Station, or ARISS, radio
contact with an orbiting space station crew member between July 1 and
Dec. 31, 2017. Proposals are due Nov. 1, 2016.

ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers of parti-
cipants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education plan.
Students can learn about satellite communications, wireless technology,
science research conducted on the space station, what it is like to work
in space, radio science, and any related STEM subject. Students learn to
use amateur radio to talk directly to an astronaut and ask their
STEM-related questions. ARISS will help educational organizations locate
amateur radio groups who can assist with equipment for this
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for students. Exact dates for the 10-minute radio contact are
determined by crew scheduling and space station orbits.

ARISS-US is offered through a partnership between NASA; the American Radio
Relay League, or ARRL; and the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation, or
AMSAT.

ARISS was created and is managed by an international working group.

Please email questions about this opportunity to
ariss at arrl.org.


[ANS thanks NASA Education Express Message -- Sept. 8, 2016 for the above
information]


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AMSAT Events


Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around
the country.  Examples of these events are radio club meetings where
AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working
amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with
AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations,
forums, and/or demonstrations).

*Saturday and Sunday, 10-11 September 2016 Boxboro Hamfest in Boxborough,
MA (ARRL New England Division Convention)

*Friday, 23 September 2016 ? presentation at Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Amateur Radio Club in Pasadena CA

*Friday and Saturday, 21-22 October 2016 ? CopaFest 2016, south of
Maricopa AZ

*Saturday, 12 November 2016 ? Oro Valley Amateur Radio Club Hamfest in
Marana AZ

*Saturday, 3 December 2016 ? Superstition Superfest in Mesa AZ

*Saturday, 14 January 2017 ? Thunderbird Hamfest 2017 in Phoenix AZ

*Saturday, 4 February 2017 ? Palm Springs Hamfest in Palm Springs CA

*Friday-Sunday, 10-12 February 2017   Orlando HamCation in Orlando, FL

*Friday and Saturday, 17-18 February 2017 ? Yuma Hamfest in Yuma AZ


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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ARISS News


Successful Contacts

*  Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence KS, direct via KC?NFL
The ISS callsign was NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut was Takuya Onishi KF5LKS
Contact was Successful: Sat 2016-09-10 17:03:42 UTC

13 Questions Asked/Answered
300 People at the library, 91 watched the livestream online
The event was covered by local Channel 6 News, KUJH (KU's tv channel),
Girl Scouts (for their blog), and The Lawrence Journal World.



*  Lewis and Clark National Historical Park, Astoria OR,
was direct via KF7TCG now telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign was NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut was Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact was Successful: Sat 2016-09-10 17:03:19 UTC via W6SRJ

17 of 20 questions Asked/Answered.
Approximately 50 in audience.

Upcoming Contacts

*  C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ or TBD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC


Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.


[ANS thanks ARISS, Dave, AA4KN, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over


K6R Coundtdown

On September 16th, Wyatt, AC0RA, and myself will be getting on the boat in
Ventura, CA with our destination set on CM93. We've been training all
summer, finalizing equipment, setting skeds, and generally getting all the
loose ends tied up, and we look to be ready to go.

We have posted our Final pass schedule on the K6R QRZ page at
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/K6R
- so feel free to find a pass that is to your liking. We have tried hard to
include everyone in our distance range on at least 1 or 2 passes. Of course
all passes are dependent on weather, schedule, and other factors - and
there's
a very good chance we'll show up on passes that AREN'T on our list as
well..
find a window, and see if we're around.

We're also happy to announce that Jimmy, KK6FAH will be serving as our
pilot relay station for the expedition. He's a fellow AMSAT operator, and
has a QTH right in Ventura, and we should be in local repeater range of
each other while we're on the Island. We have agreed to meet up each
evening and report our logs to him, and he will then pass our report on to
the BB. Please do not email him  with questions about busted calls or the
like, he's simply going to be passing on our reports. He's also been
awesome in helping us with some local arrangements, and we appreciate his
assistance with this project greatly.

I'd also like to make a brief request for folks to use some good
situational awareness while we're out there. We know this is a rare grid
and there's tons of interest, but remember that the birds and pass time are
a scarce resource. We're hoping with lots of scheduled passes there should
be more than enough air time to get everyone worked that wants it, but use
some common sense. If you have linear capability, find us on one of those
birds, and leave SO-50 for the FM only operators. If you're on the West
coast and can work us on a higher pass where the east coast doesn't have a
footprint, consider delaying to give them a chance. If you can handle
taking a night off from using SO-50 as your ragchew repeater in the sky,
that'd be great too... and please try to keep the dupes to a minimum - you
never know when someone is just sliding into the footprint and only has 30
seconds to make that precious QSO. Thanks in advance.

Finally, we're planning to do a very informal round table on 20 meters
Saturday night at 8:00 PDT. Clayton, W5PFG has agreed to find us a
frequency (probably the upper portion of 20m) and send out a tweet on where
we will be. We'd love to have you stop by on HF and chat about Satellite
stuff, the expedition, or "Am I in the log?" that night.

It's expedition go time. Hope to catch everyone from CM93!

[ANS thanks Dave, KG5CCI for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Joe Spier, K6WAO
k6wao at amsat dot org


From bobsmacbox at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 11 03:27:21 2016
From: bobsmacbox at yahoo.com (Bob Bennett)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 23:27:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CubeSat 3D
Message-ID: <866a4ae8-9e78-aeb0-7a35-2f97eba9cb11@yahoo.com>

I'm curious to find if anyone has produced a 3D file of a Cube Sat mock up.

Bob/nz2z


From wills at pcward.net  Sun Sep 11 11:22:42 2016
From: wills at pcward.net (Wills)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 21:22:42 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Receiving Telemetry from AO-73 with IC-9100
Message-ID: <20160911113137.D6763222A4@esmtp.domaincentral.com.au>

I am finding it very difficult to successfully receive/decode telemetry from AO-73 and Ukube-1 using an IC-9100 and SatPC32 as compared to receiving same when using an IC-821H.
Are there any hidden/secret settings on the IC-9100 which have to be set to allow successful reception/decode of the telemetry. Should one be trying to receive with the IC-9100 in the Digital mode?
Is there a command which one can enter in the Doppler.sqf file in SatPC32 (like DFM which puts the IC-9100 into Digital FM mode) to put the IC-9100 into the Digital mode for USB reception?
I did try DUSB entered into the Dopple.SQF file of SatPC32, but this did not work.
I have tried several different settings in the menu section of the transceiver, all to no avail.
Using the IC-821H I can receive/decode the telemetry from about 5 degrees elevation (going up) to 3 degrees (going down), but with the IC-9100 I do not start to receive/decode until the satellite is about 25 - 30 degrees elevation (up) and then lose it when the satellite is about 20 degrees elevation (down). Using the same antenna system on both so the antennas can not be having a large effect on the IC-9100. Plus decoding is constantly stopping during the pass, thus missing a large amount of data unlike the IC-821H which hardly ever stops decode during a pass.
Appreciate any suggestion one may be able to provide.

Wal VK4CBW

From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun Sep 11 12:47:08 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 08:47:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
Message-ID: <CALdCfNKemHLyxbk-bBo_68AGGtRwucTqGUedbpWRc+nO4oz-nA@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the link:  http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html

Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
> Also, as Bob Bruninga will tell you, set the EL at 15-20 degrees.
> He has a website that explains why...

>> My first step will employ an azmuthal only inexpensive rotor

Of course, that assumes ou can see down to the horizon.  If you are
surrounded by buildings or trees or mountains that are higher that, then
adjust antenna to that elevation.

Bob

From k9jkm at comcast.net  Sun Sep 11 12:48:29 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 07:48:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] CubeSat 3D
In-Reply-To: <866a4ae8-9e78-aeb0-7a35-2f97eba9cb11@yahoo.com>
References: <866a4ae8-9e78-aeb0-7a35-2f97eba9cb11@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601d20c2a$cc452910$64cf7b30$@net>

> I'm curious to find if anyone has produced a 3D file of a Cube Sat mock
up.

The LibreCube organization is working on an open source cubesat. Their page
may have additional resources. At least it is a point of contact without
export restrictions.

http://librecube.net/

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org




From dan at post.com  Sun Sep 11 13:12:25 2016
From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 14:12:25 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Lewis and Clark National
 Historic Park, Astoria, OR
In-Reply-To: <CAF3DnKhvuRT_5M=CfgRjUV2oRxd5w1VUhR56xXy1T1kGXuUH2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <752533EC4B494E2ABCB16A8EE45F708D@DHJ>
	<CAF3DnKhvuRT_5M=CfgRjUV2oRxd5w1VUhR56xXy1T1kGXuUH2A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF3DnKjLok5GU+870eZHrTEkD43mkUpAitJBD_r+1PQkEioRtA@mail.gmail.com>

The recording of the second successful attempt by Telebridge is now up
on their facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/LewisandClarkNationalHistoricalPark/

On 03/09/2016, Daniel Cussen <dan at post.com> wrote:
> This event is streaming LIVE NOW at:
> https://www.facebook.com/LewisandClarkNationalHistoricalPark/
> Contact is in 20 minutes at 18:21UTC today.
>
> On 01/09/2016, n4csitwo at bellsouth.net <n4csitwo at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
>> participants at Lewis and Clark National Historic Park, Astoria, OR on 03
>> Sept. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 18:21 UTC. The
>> duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The
>> contact will be direct between NA1SS and KF7TCG. The contact should be
>> audible over the west coast of the U.S. and adjacent areas. Interested
>> parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact
>> is
>> expected to be conducted in English.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas Jefferson was a scientist and a pioneer in many fields of study
>> including biology, geography, meteorology, and ethnology.  Since at least
>> 1793 he had been planning for an exploration of the largest remaining
>> unexplored land on earth: the American West.  This resulted in the four
>> pages of detailed instructions that he gave to Meriwether Lewis during
>> their
>> 1801-03 planning for the voyage of the Corps of Discovery.   The
>> resulting
>> 1804-06 U.S. Army expedition to explore along the Missouri and Columbia
>> Rivers was led by Captains Meriwether Lewis and William Clark.  The 33
>> diverse members of the Corps spent the winter of 1805-06 at a campsite
>> they
>> built just a few miles from the mouth of the Columbia River and named
>> after
>> the local Clatsop Indians.  At Fort Clatsop, the captains planned for the
>> return journey to the United States and worked on writing scientific
>> descriptions of the plants and animals they'd encountered that were new
>> to
>> science (a total of 178 species of plants and 122 animals by the end of
>> the
>> trip).  Like President Thomas Jefferson and Captain Meriwether Lewis,
>> today's astronauts have a curiosity for exploring beyond known frontiers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some local students who have participated in various education programs
>> at
>> Lewis and Clark National Historical Park and live in surrounding Clatsop
>> County have been learning about the International Space Station (ISS) and
>> are hoping to have a brief radio conversation with an ISS astronaut.
>> All
>> of these students live in Clatsop County and are familiar with the park
>> through field trips, park summer camps, family visits, or education
>> programs
>> with rangers visiting their classrooms. The park connected with these
>> students through four relationships:
>>
>> 1. The Northwest Regional Educational Service District and the Astoria
>> School District offer a migrant summer school to serve students who have
>> moved within the last three years for their parent's work.  Several of
>> these
>> students participated in summer camps that the park offered and they were
>> excited about the opportunity to learn about the International Space
>> Station
>> and talk with an astronaut.
>>
>> 2.  Three small local Girl Scout Troops (#10025, #10026, #10086) were
>> interested in this opportunity as they have been focusing on the three
>> keys
>> to Girl Scouting which are Discovering, Connecting, and Taking Action.
>> The
>> girls and their leaders were happy to incorporate this ARISS opportunity
>> into their projects.
>>
>> 3.  The Fort Clatsop District of Boy Scouts includes local troop #509 and
>> #542.  Since Scouting is about character development and having
>> confidence
>> in yourself to Be Prepared, the ARISS program is a good challenge for
>> these
>> youngsters.  Their district is named in honor of the 1805-06 winter
>> encampment of the 33 people of the Lewis and Clark Expedition .
>>
>> 4.  Three of the youth recruited for this special program are children or
>> grandchildren of Lewis and Clark National Historical Park rangers and
>> were
>> excited to learn that an astronaut radio conversation would be happening
>> in
>> their park.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  To prepare for his journey, Captain Meriwether Lewis was tutored by
>>
>>     experts in medicine, navigation, astronomy, mathematics, botany, and
>>
>>     paleontology.  What was the hardest part of your training?
>>
>> 2.  The Corps of Discovery enjoyed fiddle music, do you listen to music
>> in
>>
>>     space? If so, what kind?
>>
>> 3.  How different does your body feel in microgravity and how long does
>> it
>>
>>     take to adjust after arrival in the space station?
>>
>> 4.  Lewis and Clark failed to find a Northwest Passage.  Have any of your
>>
>>     experiments failed or not gone like you wanted?
>>
>> 5.  While wintering at Fort Clatsop, the Corps of Discovery made buckskin
>>
>>     clothes as their uniforms wore out. How many outfits of clothing do
>> you
>>
>>
>>     have with you, and what kind of material are they made from?
>>
>> 6.  Why do you like communicating with kids?
>>
>> 7.  Meriwether Lewis treasured an ermine scarf he received from a
>> Shoshone
>>
>>
>>     chief.  Do you have a souvenir from space? If so, what is it?
>>
>> 8.  Do you create art from the views from the space station?
>>
>> 9.  When is your next spacewalk?  What is your favorite thing when you
>> are
>>
>>     outside the space station?
>>
>> 10.  Lewis brought his dog Seaman with him on the expedition. Are there
>> any
>>
>>
>>      research animals on the space station now? If so, what are they?
>>
>> 11.  Although most members of the Corps of Discovery were single, York
>> and
>>
>>      John Shields had families at home. Do you miss your family, and how
>> do
>>
>>
>>      you communicate with them?
>>
>> 12.  Do you guys keep journal like Lewis and Clark did?
>>
>> 13.  If a microorganism changed genetically on the International Space
>>
>>      Station would it be considered a space alien?
>>
>> 14.  Were you in a scouting program as a child?  If so, did it affect
>> your
>>
>>      desire to work in space?
>>
>> 15.  Lewis and Clark played backgammon.  What games do you play?
>>
>> 16.  When Sacagawea became sick, Lewis treated her. If you get hurt or
>> sick,
>>
>>
>>      who treats you?
>>
>> 17.  What are your space suits made of, and can they catch on fire?
>>
>> 18.  How do you protect your eyes when the space station is facing the
>> sun?
>>
>> 19.  Are you doing any experiments with animals adapting to microgravity?
>>
>> 20.  What does a shooting star or a meteor shower look like from space?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:
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>> Next planned event(s):
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>>
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>>
>>        The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS
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>>
>>
>>
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From jerry.tuyls at telenet.be  Sun Sep 11 14:05:25 2016
From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be (jerry.tuyls at telenet.be)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 16:05:25 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sunday 11 september 2016 balloon fox hunt with U/V
 FM	transponder!
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR09MB06973FEAD111AB10FDCC3692C2FB0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <HE1PR09MB06973FEAD111AB10FDCC3692C2FB0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1557480380.297328474.1473602725844.JavaMail.root@telenet.be>

Hello Cor

I enjoyed the event today.Managed to work a few PA, DL, OZ and a /MM station thru the transponder. Copied it well with a signal S9- S9+60db on the TS-790e meter constantly, with fading.

No preamps on the satellite antennas here, 2*7el 2m and 2*12el 70cm crossed yagis (half lenghts from Maspro system WHS-32N).

TOO BAD that some people do NOT like to hear DX, and used it for a local chat. But it worked great!!

73's

Jerry,ON4CJQ

 
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Cor PD?RKC" <kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com>
Aan: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Verzonden: Donderdag 8 september 2016 20:34:11
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] Sunday 11 september 2016 balloon fox hunt with U/V FM	transponder!


Hello radio friends,

At Sunday 11 september 2016 is a balloon fox hunt event.
A weather balloon will be launched with U/V FM transponder, 23cm ATV transmitter and
beacon (tone) transmitter.
The weather balloon will be launched from the Netherlands, amateur radio stations in nearby -
countries have to wait a while to hear the signals untill the balloon reach an higher -
altitude! (the maximal altitude might reach 30km it also did in the past!).
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Balloon transmitters frequency information:
Beacon:  145.450 MHz (100 mW FM/N).
FM crossband voice transponder uplink: 432.550MHz downlink: 145.475MHz (1 Watt FM/N).
ATV video transmitter 1252 MHz     (1 Watt FM, camera looking down to earth).
The balloon camera video stream can be world wide seen on the website (see the urls below).
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Ground control stations:
PI4RCG      7.080 kHz, 3.650 kHz (+/- 10kHz QRM).
PI2NOS     430.125 MHz (+1.6 Shift) ground repeater in the Netherlands (also audible via echolink).
PI3UTR     145.575 MHz (-0.6 Shift / 77Hz) ground repeater in the Netherlands (also audible via echolink).

The official balloon fox hunt website and social media websites:
https://www.ballonvossenjacht.nl (you can choose the English language from the menu).
http://www.facebook.com/ballonvossenjacht
https://twitter.com/ballonvosjacht (often with quick update news messages!).

73's Cor PD0RKC

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From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 16:04:50 2016
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:04:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Advise and/or Help
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNKemHLyxbk-bBo_68AGGtRwucTqGUedbpWRc+nO4oz-nA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNKemHLyxbk-bBo_68AGGtRwucTqGUedbpWRc+nO4oz-nA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57d580a3.07d9240a.b66d8.f85a@mx.google.com>

> Also, as Bob Bruninga will tell you, set the EL at 15-20 degrees.

Following Bob's advice here for fixed elevation of 20 degrees works well.
I've got my 6 element 145 MHz and 8 element 435 MHz cheap yagis on a TV
rotor. 

On 145 MHz I can copy and decode the AO-73 weekend mode beacon ~37 mW at 700
miles range with no preamp. 

I've found that the tighter beamwidth of 8 elements on 435 MHz requires
closer tracking (manually) and occasionally I need to wait for the
satellite's elevation to get low enough to get back in the antenna pattern.

A basic setup like this will get you on the air. There is plenty of room for
improvement but that is part of the fun too.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org



From kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 11 18:37:17 2016
From: kenwoodtrx at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Cor_PD=D8RKC?=)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:37:17 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sunday 11 september 2016 balloon fox hunt with U/V FM
	transponder!
Message-ID: <HE1PR09MB0697F6C0BAEDE7DF38156B77C2FC0@HE1PR09MB0697.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>



Hello radio friends,


The balloon fox hunting was a big success today.

These events are one of the biggest amateur radio events in the Netherlands there where a lot people

in cars trying to find the balloon first.

And thoussands amateur radio operators have tried to make radio contacts via the balloon U/V FM voice transponder.
That was not easy with only one channel!

The weather balloon  was exploded at 30.6 kilometers height.

I have heard stations from: Belgium, Germany, Denmark, UK and ofcoarse a lot from the the Netherlands.

I had expected more stations from nearby countries with my posting on amsat-bb but in comparisation with

other years there where not much more.
A special thanks for the QSO with Jerry ON4CJQ in Belgium!

Every year is a new balloon fox hunt event in september so keep watching the official website.

https://www.ballonvossenjacht.nl


73s Cor PD0RKC


From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 11 19:47:02 2016
From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:47:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference),
 St. Petersburg, FL, 9/16-18, Forum / Speaker Schedule Announced
In-Reply-To: <839408395.225099.1472798364561@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1412368954.9204078.1470009509748.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<772806613.9311838.1470009632064.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1323047761.1633402.1470724270948.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1235231484.14098959.1470724394474.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1935907310.1840289.1471122024382@mail.yahoo.com>
	<839408395.225099.1472798364561@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <593655807.590444.1473623222223@mail.yahoo.com>

ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference)?
St. Petersburg, FL?
September 16 - 18, 2016

Forum / Speaker Scheduled Announced?
http://www.tapr.org/pdf/DCC_2016_Schedule_Preliminary%202016-09-06.pdf


DCC Registration?https://www.tapr.org/dccregistration.php


   

From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 14:09:06 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 09:09:06 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/P EM22/32 & EM32/33 grid line passes
Message-ID: <CAPovOwcMagT0MK5jgmKyrW9LRyfzRYOJp3xpbg05+_uukf+Sug@mail.gmail.com>

This Tuesday afternoon through Thursday I will operate from EM32 and
neighboring grid boundaries in Louisiana.

I'm planning to be on these passes from the specified grid lines.
However, I might on other passes during the day from EM32.

All times are in UTC.

Tuesday, September 13 - EM22/32
XW-2C    22:53-23:01
XW-2F    22:56-23:04 (at some point I'll transition to F after C)
SO-50    23:23-23:34

Wednesday, September 14 - EM32/33
SO-50    23:48-00:00
XW-2C    00:14-00:24

If the grid line passes don't work for you, I might be able to work
other passes. Email me with your specific timing request (no
graveyard-shift passes.)

73,
Clayton
W5PFG

From wao at vfr.net  Sat Sep 10 22:31:49 2016
From: wao at vfr.net (Joseph Spier)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:31:49 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-255 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <de28f809-baff-1f5a-cd68-10ac3ca8b7b9@vfr.net>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-255
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* RadFxSat (Fox-1B) launch date is now scheduled for March 16, 2017
* AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by September 15th
* AMSAT Awards Update
* ?Frequency Crunch? is ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference
   Sunday Seminar Topic
* 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Registration Reminder
* 5 Teams Share First Round of NASA Cube Quest Challenge Prizes
* 5 GHz to 10 GHz Lunar Transponder Mission
* Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
* Inspiring the next STEM generation
* ARISS to Host On-line Information Sessions - School Contacts
* AMSAT Events
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-255.01
ANS-255 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 255.01
 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE September 11, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-255.01


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RadFxSat (Fox-1B) launch date is now scheduled for March 16, 2017


The RadFxSat (Fox-1B) launch date has been moved, and is now scheduled
for March 16, 2017.

RadFxSat will ride as one of the ELaNa XIV secondary payloads aboard the
NASA JPSS-1 launch on a ULA Delta II rocket.

The launch will be at Vandenberg AFB, California.  It is one of only two
remaining Delta II planned to be launched.

The RadFxSat mission is a partnership with Vanderbilt Institute for
Space and Defense Electronics (ISDE) that will study space radiation
effects on commercial off the shelf memory.  The experiments are carried
aboard the AMSAT Fox-1B CubeSat and experiment data will be carried in
the subaudible telemetry stream of the Fox-1B FM repeater along with the
CubeSat telemetry data.  The telemetry can be decoded and displayed with
the AMSAT FoxTelem software.


[ANS thanks Jerry Buxton, N0JY AMSAT Vice President, Engineering
for the above information]


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AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Ballots Due by September 15th


Ballots have been mailed to AMSAT-NA members in good standing, and
must be returned to the AMSAT-NA office by September 15, 2016 in order
to be counted. Those sent outside North America were sent by air mail.
If you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for
your QTH, please contact the AMSAT-NA office. Your completed ballot
should be sent as promptly as possible, and those from outside North
American preferably by air mail or other expedited means.

This year there are five candidates:

Tom Clark, K3IO
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Mark Hammond, N8MH
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

The three candidates receiving the highest number of votes will be
seated as voting Board Members with two year terms. The two candidates
receiving the next highest number of votes will be non-voting
Alternate Board Members with terms of one year. Please vote for no
more than three candidates.

Please take the time to review the candidate statements that accompany
the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the Board. Election of
Board members is both an obligation as well as an opportunity by our
membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT-NA.


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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AMSAT Awards Update


Congrats to all who have earned an AMSAT Award since the last posting.

AMSAT Satellite Communicators Award for making their first satellite QSO
Peter Laws, N5UWY
Jose de Jesus Moura Costa, PS8E
Mac Cody, AE5PH
Bernard Van Haecke, KI6TSF
Burns Fisher, W2BFJ
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AMSAT Communications Achievement Award
Robert Beatty, WB4SON #569
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AMSAT Sexagesimal Award
Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV #173
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AMSAT Century Club Award
Kevin Manzer, N4UFO #47
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AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Award
Yanko Yankov, NX9G #87  1000+
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To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or
http://www.amsatnet.com/awards.html


[ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
for the above information]


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?Frequency Crunch? is ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference
Sunday Seminar Topic


?Spectrum (It?s the frequency crunch for real)? will be the Sunday Seminar
topic at the ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC) September 
16-18
in St Petersburg, Florida. Michelle Thompson, W5NYV, and Bob McGwier, N4HY,
will moderate the tutorial.

?The Amateur Radio spectrum above 450 MHz is facing serious threats. The
demand for useful spectrum is large and growing,? an abstract for the
presentation asserts. ?We will explain why this spectrum is in demand 
and what
you need to know and do in order to defend it.?

The presentation will offer a practical understanding of digital
communication, software-defined radio, codecs, protocols, and cognitive 
radio.
Thompson heads the AMSAT Ground Terminal Team, a component of the so-called
?five and dime (5 GHz and 10 GHz) Phase 4B geosynchronous satellite project.
McGwier is chief scientist at the Hume Center for National Security and
Technology at Virginia Tech.

The Saturday night banquet speaker will be ARRL Chief Technology Officer
Brennan Price, N4QX. His topic will be ?New Frontiers in Wireless: 
Challenges
to and Opportunities for Amateur Radio.?

http://www.arrl.org/news/frequency-crunch-is-arrl-tapr-digital-communications-
conference-sunday-seminar-topic


[ANS thanks TAPR and the ARRL for the above information]


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2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Registration Reminder

-          Booking your Carnival Cruise does not register you for the
AMSAT Symposium.  There is a charge for each Symposium attendee of
$40.  This fee applies to those who will attend the technical
presentations only and includes a copy of the printed Proceedings.
Additional guests are entitled to attend all other events. The
registration form is available from the AMSAT office or store website.
Online Symposium registration:

http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=130

-          Ground transportation options have been added to the FAQ
page on the AMSAT Symposium web page.  Carnival offers round-trip
transportation from HOU airport to the cruise terminal at
approximately $74 per person, IAH airport $94 per person.  If you are
traveling to the Board of Directors meeting, you may still utilize the
Carnival transportation option for your return to the airport from the
cruise terminal.  However, you will need to obtain other
transportation between the airport and the Galveston DoubleTree hotel.

Cruise information may be found at:
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667


[ANS thanks 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium Committee for the above information]


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5 Teams Share First Round of NASA Cube Quest Challenge Prizes


Five teams, ranging from university students to a group of engineers 
dispersed
across the country, received $20,000 each from NASA in the first 
milestone of a
competition to develop deep space CubeSat technologies.

The teams, announced by NASA at a Sept. 9 briefing, had the highest 
scores in
the first of four ?ground tournaments? that make up the initial phase of the
agency?s $5 million Cube Quest Challenge. That tournament, held in early
August, featured 13 teams who presented their initial spacecraft designs.

?Cube Quest is an opportunity for non-government CubeSat developers and
builders to compete in lunar orbit and deep space for accomplishments in
communications, navigation and longevity,? said Jim Cockrell of NASA?s Ames
Research Center. Cockrell is manager of the competition, part of the 
agency?s
Centennial Challenges prize program.
- See more at: 
http://spacenews.com/5-teams-share-first-round-of-nasa-cubesat-
prizes/#sthash.qbwJKlXB.dpuf
The ground tournaments are optional elements of the overall competition,
intended to guide teams through the development of their spacecraft as they
mature from initial concepts to flight hardware. Participating teams are 
scored
on how well they meet the requirements of each tournament, and the three 
with
the highest cumulative scores will win flights of their spacecraft as 
secondary
payloads on the first Space Launch System mission, Exploration Mission 1 
(EM-
1), in 2018.

The first ground tournament did not involve any hardware, and Cockrell 
likened
it to a mission concept review that takes place early in the development 
of a
typical NASA mission. Judges assessed the capabilities of each proposed 
mission
and compliance with mission rules and SLS safety requirements.

?It was the first opportunity for teams to present their concepts for 
how they
intend to win the Cube Quest Challenge,? he said. ?Ground Tournament 1
demonstrates that teams are on a good trajectory for launch on EM-1.?

Some of the winning teams are linked to universities that have 
experience with
CubeSats. A space systems design class at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology started work on the KitCube spacecraft this spring, said Kerri
Cahoy, a professor of aeronautics and astronautics there. KitCube is 
designed
to go into lunar orbit and demonstrate a laser communications system.

Another team, Cislunar Explorers, is composed mostly of students at Cornell
University. ?The work represents the culmination of lots of Ph.D.-level
research and some undergraduate research from the last five or six years 
at the
university,? said Mason Peck, a Cornell engineering professor who served as
NASA chief technologist from 2011 to 2013.

Peck said their spacecraft will demonstrate several key technologies,
including a propulsion system that uses solar power to convert water into
hydrogen and oxygen propellants. ?It?s a pathfinder for the sustainable
exploration and settlement of the solar system,? he said.

Other winning teams have less traditional backgrounds. ?There?s 12 of us
across the United States? working on Team Miles, said team leader Wes Faler.
Many of them are located in Tampa, Florida, including Faler, but others are
based in California, New York and South Carolina.

Faler said the team takes its name from a line in a Robert Frost poem: ?And
miles to go before I sleep.? After going into orbit around the Moon, he 
said,
the spacecraft will perform an extended mission, traveling towards Mars 
to test
autonomous navigation technology.

Ragnarok Industries of Wilmington, Delaware, was established by a group of
former engineering interns at NASA?s Goddard Space Flight Center. Their
satellite, Heimdallr, is intended to test advanced propulsion and
communications technologies for missions beyond Earth orbit, said 
company co-
founder Luigi Balarinni.

Novel Engineering of Cocoa Beach, Florida, is working with several other 
local
companies, including Craig Technologies and Harris Corp., the latter 
providing
a deployable mesh antenna for its CubeSat, named Space Pig. The name, team
members said, came from elementary school students during an outreach event.

The ultimate goal of the competition is to fly CubeSats into lunar orbit or
deep space. A total of $3 million is offered in prizes for the ?Lunar Derby?
part of the competition, for both being able to enter lunar orbit and to
demonstrate communications capabilities and longevity. An additional $1.5
million is for a ?Deep Space Derby? to achieve communications and longevity
goals.

NASA?s Cockrell said the next ground tournament is scheduled for early 2016.
Teams can participate in that round, which he compared to a preliminary 
design
review, regardless of their performance, or even participation, in the 
August
tournament.

Teams that do not participate in the ground tournaments, or who do not 
finish
in the top three in total points, can still pursue the deep space and lunar
prizes by arranging their own launches. The competition ends, and any prizes
awarded, one year after the EM-1 launch
- See more at: 
http://spacenews.com/5-teams-share-first-round-of-nasa-cubesat-
prizes/#sthash.qbwJKlXB.dpuf

AMSAT-NA is partnered with the Ragnarok Industries team. Heimdallr
satellite plans to test advanced propulsion and communications technologies
for missions beyond Earth. AMSAT radio will be aboard. The AMSAT 
Groundstation
initiative will give amateur radio operators to uplink and downlink to the
lunar satellite.

http://spacenews.com/5-teams-share-first-round-of-nasa-cubesat-prizes/


[ANS thanks www.spacenews.com for the above information]


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5 GHz to 10 GHz Lunar Transponder Mission


AMSAT-NA plans 5 GHz to 10 GHz transponders on a spacecraft expected to 
launch
in September 2018 into a Lunar orbit.

Heimdallr is a 3 axis stabilized 6U CubeSat with a mass of approximately 
8 kg.
It will have a Cold Gas Thruster for inertia dump and a star tracker for
navigation. Deployable, gimbled solar panels will produce up to 100 
watts of DC
power, electric propulsion will be used to achieve lunar orbit.

There will be a combination of omni and directional patch antennas on 
one side
of spacecraft.

The first part of mission is to provide Telemetry, Tracking, and Command
(TT&C) to obtain lunar orbit. The second part is to perform the data 
downlink
experiment while the final part is to provide a two way regenerative 
repeater
and analog repeater in lunar orbit for lifetime of satellite.

Proposing these downlinks:
? Omni transponder: 10.451 GHz +/- 0.5 MHz
? Directional transponder: 10.4575 GHz. +/- 3.5 MHz
? Analog transponder: 10.4665 GHz. +/- 2.0 MHz

For the first part of the mission (TT&C) using 300 bps BPSK 1/2 rate viterbi
Ranging 1.5 Mbps BPSK DSSS. For the  second part of mission 4.5 Mbps QPSK ?
rate DVB-S2. For the final part of mission 25 kbps BPSK 1/5 rate DVB-S2.

Proposing these Uplinks
? Omni transponder: 5.651 GHz +/- 0.5 MHz
? Directional transponder: 5.6575 GHz. +/- 3.5 MHz
? Analog transponder: 5.665 GHz. +/- 2 MHz

A link budget is available at
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3u-mSOWBMISYnZyZGJpeThKeU0&usp=sharing

It is anticipated that a 1 or 2 metre dish will be required using the AMSAT
designed ground station equipment.

Source IARU Satellite Frequency Coordination Status pages
http://www.amsat.org.uk/iaru/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and the IARU for the above information]


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Pratham: IITB Student Satellite


The satellite Pratham, built by students at the Indian Institute of 
Technology
Bombay, is expected to launch on the Indian PSLV-C35 mission currently 
planned
for September 26, 2016.

Pratham, a 300x300x300mm satellite with a mass of 10 kg, aims to measure 
total
electron count in a 800 km altitude Sun Synchronous Orbit (SSO).

Aayush Yadav of the Pratham team writes:

We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project, 
Pratham,
is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of 
September. We
would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving our satellite?s
beacon, details given below:

Beacon:
Mode: CW
wpm: 35 words
Frequency: 145.980 MHz
(The CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be received from
anywhere.)

Downlink:
Mode: FSK
Baudrate: 1200 bps
Frequency: 437.455 MHz
(To be switched on over France and India only)

We will update the information as soon as TLE?s will be available.

Further information at
http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/pratham/

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/iitb.student.satellite/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and Team Pratham for the above information]


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Inspiring the next STEM generation


The UK Space Agency?s Astronaut Flight Education Program Support Manager
Susan Buckle will be giving a presentation at the RSGB Convention on 
Saturday,
October 8.

Along with Ciaran Morgan M0XTD, she will talk about the ten UK ARISS amateur
radio school contacts with astronaut Tim Peake GB1SS during his Principia
mission on the International Space Station.

These contacts have inspired thousands of young people and introduced 
them to
amateur radio in a new and exciting way.

The full schedule and booking information for the convention are 
available at
http://rsgb.org/convention Twitter hashtag #RSGBconv2016

An RSGB video celebrates these historic school contacts and the range of
linked activities the schools have enjoyed.

Beginning with the exhilaration of the launch, it follows the 
competition for
schools to host the ARISS contacts, and showcases the variety of science,
technology, engineering, maths (STEM) and arts activities that helped 
pupils to
understand more about space and amateur radio.

The contacts themselves, often led by newly-licensed pupils, were the
successful culmination of many months of work and anticipation.

ARISS Principia
https://principia.ariss.org/

AMSAT-UK Article
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/10/inspiring-the-next-stem-generation/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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ARISS to Host On-line Information Sessions - School Contacts


To help organizations learn about ARISS radio contacts and the proposal
process, ARISS offers one-hour online information sessions; all questions
are welcomed. Attending an online session is not required but strongly
encouraged.

Informational sessions will be offered Sept. 20, 2016, at 4 p.m. EDT and
Sept. 28, 2016, at 7 p.m. EDT.

Advance registration is necessary. Email ARISS (ariss at arrl.org) to sign
up for an information session.

For proposal information and more details such as expectations, proposal
guidelines and proposal form, visit:
http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

ARISS Contact Application Window Open Until November 1

ARISS-US is now accepting proposals from U.S. schools, museums, science
centers and community youth organizations (working individually or together)
to host an Amateur Radio on the International Space Station, or ARISS, radio
contact with an orbiting space station crew member between July 1 and
Dec. 31, 2017. Proposals are due Nov. 1, 2016.

ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers of parti-
cipants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education plan.
Students can learn about satellite communications, wireless technology,
science research conducted on the space station, what it is like to work
in space, radio science, and any related STEM subject. Students learn to
use amateur radio to talk directly to an astronaut and ask their
STEM-related questions. ARISS will help educational organizations locate
amateur radio groups who can assist with equipment for this 
once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity for students. Exact dates for the 10-minute radio contact are
determined by crew scheduling and space station orbits.

ARISS-US is offered through a partnership between NASA; the American Radio
Relay League, or ARRL; and the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation, or
AMSAT.

ARISS was created and is managed by an international working group.

Please email questions about this opportunity to
ariss at arrl.org.


[ANS thanks NASA Education Express Message -- Sept. 8, 2016 for the above
information]


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AMSAT Events


Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around
the country.  Examples of these events are radio club meetings where
AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working
amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with
AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations,
forums, and/or demonstrations).

*Saturday and Sunday, 10-11 September 2016 Boxboro Hamfest in Boxborough,
MA (ARRL New England Division Convention)

*Friday, 23 September 2016 ? presentation at Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Amateur Radio Club in Pasadena CA

*Friday and Saturday, 21-22 October 2016 ? CopaFest 2016, south of
Maricopa AZ

*Saturday, 12 November 2016 ? Oro Valley Amateur Radio Club Hamfest in
Marana AZ

*Saturday, 3 December 2016 ? Superstition Superfest in Mesa AZ

*Saturday, 14 January 2017 ? Thunderbird Hamfest 2017 in Phoenix AZ

*Saturday, 4 February 2017 ? Palm Springs Hamfest in Palm Springs CA

*Friday-Sunday, 10-12 February 2017   Orlando HamCation in Orlando, FL

*Friday and Saturday, 17-18 February 2017 ? Yuma Hamfest in Yuma AZ


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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ARISS News


Successful Contacts

*  Lawrence Public Library, Lawrence KS, direct via KC?NFL
The ISS callsign was NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut was Takuya Onishi KF5LKS
Contact was Successful: Sat 2016-09-10 17:03:42 UTC

13 Questions Asked/Answered
300 People at the library, 91 watched the livestream online
The event was covered by local Channel 6 News, KUJH (KU's tv channel),
Girl Scouts (for their blog), and The Lawrence Journal World.



*  Lewis and Clark National Historical Park, Astoria OR,
was direct via KF7TCG now telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign was NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut was Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact was Successful: Sat 2016-09-10 17:03:19 UTC via W6SRJ

17 of 20 questions Asked/Answered.
Approximately 50 in audience.

Upcoming Contacts

*  C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ or TBD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC


Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.


[ANS thanks ARISS, Dave, AA4KN, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over


K6R Coundtdown

On September 16th, Wyatt, AC0RA, and myself will be getting on the boat in
Ventura, CA with our destination set on CM93. We've been training all
summer, finalizing equipment, setting skeds, and generally getting all the
loose ends tied up, and we look to be ready to go.

We have posted our Final pass schedule on the K6R QRZ page at
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/K6R
- so feel free to find a pass that is to your liking. We have tried hard to
include everyone in our distance range on at least 1 or 2 passes. Of course
all passes are dependent on weather, schedule, and other factors - and 
there's
a very good chance we'll show up on passes that AREN'T on our list as 
well..
find a window, and see if we're around.

We're also happy to announce that Jimmy, KK6FAH will be serving as our
pilot relay station for the expedition. He's a fellow AMSAT operator, and
has a QTH right in Ventura, and we should be in local repeater range of
each other while we're on the Island. We have agreed to meet up each
evening and report our logs to him, and he will then pass our report on to
the BB. Please do not email him  with questions about busted calls or the
like, he's simply going to be passing on our reports. He's also been
awesome in helping us with some local arrangements, and we appreciate his
assistance with this project greatly.

I'd also like to make a brief request for folks to use some good
situational awareness while we're out there. We know this is a rare grid
and there's tons of interest, but remember that the birds and pass time are
a scarce resource. We're hoping with lots of scheduled passes there should
be more than enough air time to get everyone worked that wants it, but use
some common sense. If you have linear capability, find us on one of those
birds, and leave SO-50 for the FM only operators. If you're on the West
coast and can work us on a higher pass where the east coast doesn't have a
footprint, consider delaying to give them a chance. If you can handle
taking a night off from using SO-50 as your ragchew repeater in the sky,
that'd be great too... and please try to keep the dupes to a minimum - you
never know when someone is just sliding into the footprint and only has 30
seconds to make that precious QSO. Thanks in advance.

Finally, we're planning to do a very informal round table on 20 meters
Saturday night at 8:00 PDT. Clayton, W5PFG has agreed to find us a
frequency (probably the upper portion of 20m) and send out a tweet on where
we will be. We'd love to have you stop by on HF and chat about Satellite
stuff, the expedition, or "Am I in the log?" that night.

It's expedition go time. Hope to catch everyone from CM93!

[ANS thanks Dave, KG5CCI for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Joe Spier, K6WAO
k6wao at amsat dot org

From n8hm at amsat.org  Mon Sep 12 17:28:42 2016
From: n8hm at amsat.org (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:28:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Store Offline
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrtwVS2gYsrE2LQa55ojEOV6QRQ0v1U58wddQrTJFBy+w@mail.gmail.com>

The AMSAT store is currently offline for some needed upgrades and
should return within a couple of days. If you need immediate
assistance, please call Martha at (301) 822-4376 between 10am and 6pm
EDT.

We apologize for any inconvenience.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Secretary
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)

From gp_ab5r at outlook.com  Mon Sep 12 18:57:09 2016
From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:57:09 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Just Brain Storming
Message-ID: <CY4PR11MB194150DC263AEBA65050D0D7D0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

OK, so I am crazy, but I have been bashing my brain about using a servo motor to simulate the human wrist movement of varying the orientation of an antenna, as done in portable hand-held operation.


As I understand, servos primarily rotate 180 degrees left or right governed by the control signal.  That would accomplish the above requirements of pointing the antenna and adjusting for optimal signal.


However, and a BIG however, I know zip about servos or controlling them.  I realize too that their would be a antenna weight problem to overcome and other mechanical factors too!


Consequently, I am wondering it any of you experienced operators have contemplated this before?


Jerry  AB5R



From mccardelm at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 19:08:07 2016
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:08:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Just Brain Storming
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB194150DC263AEBA65050D0D7D0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB194150DC263AEBA65050D0D7D0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <09A0D103-1955-4A9C-935F-98B0FEB052E1@gmail.com>

Jerry,

Check out Mark Spencer's "WRAPS: A Portable Satellite Antenna Rotator System" published in Jan 2014 QST.

http://ww2.amsat.org/xtra/wraps-mark-spencer-wa8sme-qst-jan-2014-copyright-arrl.pdf

EMike

EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, so I am crazy, but I have been bashing my brain about using a servo motor to simulate the human wrist movement of varying the orientation of an antenna, as done in portable hand-held operation.
> 
> 
> As I understand, servos primarily rotate 180 degrees left or right governed by the control signal.  That would accomplish the above requirements of pointing the antenna and adjusting for optimal signal.
> 
> 
> However, and a BIG however, I know zip about servos or controlling them.  I realize too that their would be a antenna weight problem to overcome and other mechanical factors too!
> 
> 
> Consequently, I am wondering it any of you experienced operators have contemplated this before?
> 
> 
> Jerry  AB5R
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From dougphelps at ameritech.net  Mon Sep 12 19:10:37 2016
From: dougphelps at ameritech.net (dougphelps at ameritech.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:10:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Just Brain Storming
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB194150DC263AEBA65050D0D7D0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB194150DC263AEBA65050D0D7D0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <2060092024.3899383.1473707437244@mail.yahoo.com>

ou seek has already been done. ?AMSAT sells the boards and a programmed microcontroller for an AZ/EL rotor using servo motors. ?It is very robust and can take directions directly from SATPC32. ?I built mine and love it.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Gerald Payton<gp_ab5r at outlook.com> wrote:   OK, so I am crazy, but I have been bashing my brain about using a servo motor to simulate the human wrist movement of varying the orientation of an antenna, as done in portable hand-held operation.


As I understand, servos primarily rotate 180 degrees left or right governed by the control signal.? That would accomplish the above requirements of pointing the antenna and adjusting for optimal signal.


However, and a BIG however, I know zip about servos or controlling them.? I realize too that their would be a antenna weight problem to overcome and other mechanical factors too!


Consequently, I am wondering it any of you experienced operators have contemplated this before?


Jerry? AB5R


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From skristof at etczone.com  Mon Sep 12 19:20:51 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:20:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Just Brain Storming
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB194150DC263AEBA65050D0D7D0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB194150DC263AEBA65050D0D7D0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <3a84647ec0dfecd714de43c389a34c3d@etczone.com>

Just curious. Are you asking about azimuth/elevation type rotation or
are you asking about rotating the antenna around its long axis to adjust
for vertical and horizontal polarization changes? 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-09-12 14:57, Gerald Payton wrote:

> OK, so I am crazy, but I have been bashing my brain about using a servo motor to simulate the human wrist movement of varying the orientation of an antenna, as done in portable hand-held operation.
> 
> As I understand, servos primarily rotate 180 degrees left or right governed by the control signal.  That would accomplish the above requirements of pointing the antenna and adjusting for optimal signal.
> 
> However, and a BIG however, I know zip about servos or controlling them.  I realize too that their would be a antenna weight problem to overcome and other mechanical factors too!
> 
> Consequently, I am wondering it any of you experienced operators have contemplated this before?
> 
> Jerry  AB5R
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From plaws0 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 19:48:49 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:48:49 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Foxes
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ8H=KrOKWPKewPWYO0265TARgwPBRpOWifJvKcYVyx_KA@mail.gmail.com>

So exciting, despite the SpaceX setback!


Fox-1A - U/v (FM) - active as AO-85
Fox-1B - U/v (FM) - Launches 2017-03-16 via ULA Delta II
Fox-1Cliff - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launch TBD via SpaceX Falcon9
Fox-1D - U/v|L/v (FM) - Launch TBD via SpaceX Falcon9
Fox-1E - V/u (linear) - Launches 2017-12 via Virgin Galactic LauncherOne

Can't see the AMSAT store because of remodeling (knocking out a wall,
I believe) but is there Fox swag there?


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From gp_ab5r at outlook.com  Mon Sep 12 20:01:06 2016
From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:01:06 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] CLARIFICATION to "Just Thinking Post"
Message-ID: <CY4PR11MB194124EA094A9217AEC624DDD0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Sorry.  I was clear enough with my description.   I an not talking about Az/El rotation, but rotation of the antenna along its axis, as needed when using a hand-held antenna.


The bird is wobbling and changing orientation which has to be compensated for by twisting you wrist to get strongest signal.  This is not available on a traditional Az/El configuration, but would be a nice improvement.


Just brainstorming......


73,

Jerry

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 20:23:03 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:23:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] CLARIFICATION to "Just Thinking Post"
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB194124EA094A9217AEC624DDD0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB194124EA094A9217AEC624DDD0FF0@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ8OEPhPrPXXUfA2t_HtNMPkzHC-W5=jZ6Rp6H46v1i6wA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r at outlook.com> wrote:
> Sorry.  I was clear enough with my description.   I an not talking about Az/El rotation, but rotation of the antenna along its axis, as needed when using a hand-held antenna.
>
>
> The bird is wobbling and changing orientation which has to be compensated for by twisting you wrist to get strongest signal.
> This is not available on a traditional Az/El configuration, but would be a nice improvement.


If you are putting up a whole Az/El tracking deal, you'd probably want
to consider circularly polarized antennas since that eliminates the
need to have to flip polarity.

Are you thinking about for portable use with an Arrow-style dual-band
crossed antenna?  Because there it would be helpful.



-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From therman89 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 13 06:32:28 2016
From: therman89 at gmail.com (Herman Tibor)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:32:28 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] CubeSat 3D
Message-ID: <CABL5g1AAB=aQHbqtNUqZS6ezvKf76UwZU_Q0NtqcUoj0GONyZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I heard there was interest for a 3D CubeSat model here. I'm a developer of
the PocketQube satellite, SMOG-1. It is a hungarian student satellite
developed at the Budapest University of Technology and Economics. The
mission of the cube will be the spectrum monitoring of the 420-820MHz band
in a low earth orbit. You can get more information here or on our Facebook
page (sorry if advertising ourselves is not permitted here)

The 3D video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMzEMR8Gdp8

Feel free to share it with those, who might be interested!

Cheers,
HA4TI Tibor

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Tue Sep 13 10:34:36 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:34:36 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
Message-ID: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>

Hello

Wondering if someone can tell me which way to point an antenna to pick up INMARSAT from Brisbane Australia please


------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich
vk4tec at tech-software.net
VK4TEC
0419738223




From mvivona at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 13 15:56:00 2016
From: mvivona at yahoo.com (mvivona at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 15:56:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
In-Reply-To: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>
References: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <866255737.210630.1473782160697@mail.yahoo.com>

Andrew,
Try this page:Track INMARSAT 3-F1 at 64.5?E and view detailed satellite position data
  
|  
|   |  
Track INMARSAT 3-F1 at 64.5?E and view detailed satellite position data
 Track INMARSAT 3-F1 at 64.5?E and view detailed satellite position data  |  |

  |

 
Read the instructions on the right side about 1/2 way down.Hope this helps.
?Michael KC4ZVA

      From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:34 AM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
   
Hello

Wondering if someone can tell me which way to point an antenna to pick up INMARSAT from Brisbane Australia please


------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich
vk4tec at tech-software.net
VK4TEC
0419738223



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From mvivona at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 13 16:00:27 2016
From: mvivona at yahoo.com (mvivona at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:00:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
In-Reply-To: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>
References: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <1780242358.369687.1473782427244@mail.yahoo.com>

Andrew,
Looks like the BB stripped the hyperlink. Copy and paste this into your browser:
www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/Catalog/catalogID.php?23839?Michael KC4ZVA

      From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:34 AM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
   
Hello

Wondering if someone can tell me which way to point an antenna to pick up INMARSAT from Brisbane Australia please


------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich
vk4tec at tech-software.net
VK4TEC
0419738223



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From mvivona at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 13 16:30:13 2016
From: mvivona at yahoo.com (mvivona at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:30:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
In-Reply-To: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>
References: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <1880068426.440038.1473784213026@mail.yahoo.com>

Andrew,
I think I read your email too quickly. What I sent previously isn't what you want. 
This is actually what you need.

Go to: ? dishpointer.com 
-Input your location-Press GO-Select INMARSAT-It will show you a directional pointing map.
?Michael KC4ZVA

      From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:34 AM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
   
Hello

Wondering if someone can tell me which way to point an antenna to pick up INMARSAT from Brisbane Australia please


------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich
vk4tec at tech-software.net
VK4TEC
0419738223



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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Tue Sep 13 16:34:45 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 02:34:45 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
In-Reply-To: <1880068426.440038.1473784213026@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>
	<1880068426.440038.1473784213026@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3500B451-EDE8-4FA5-85AE-76506A6D67D7@tech-software.net>

Thank you Michael

You are spot on 

Andrew 

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vk4tec at tech-software.net
VK4TEC
0419738223



> On 14 Sep 2016, at 2:30 AM, mvivona at yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> I think I read your email too quickly. What I sent previously isn't what you want. 
> This is actually what you need.
> 
> Go to:   dishpointer.com 
> -Input your location
> -Press GO
> -Select INMARSAT
> -It will show you a directional pointing map.
>  
> Michael KC4ZVA
> 
> 
> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:34 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
> 
> Hello
> 
> Wondering if someone can tell me which way to point an antenna to pick up INMARSAT from Brisbane Australia please
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich
> vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> VK4TEC
> 0419738223
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Tue Sep 13 16:42:40 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 02:42:40 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] INMARSAT
In-Reply-To: <3500B451-EDE8-4FA5-85AE-76506A6D67D7@tech-software.net>
References: <434BCCA3-87A7-4DC6-81D1-6F4008554035@tech-software.net>
	<1880068426.440038.1473784213026@mail.yahoo.com>
	<3500B451-EDE8-4FA5-85AE-76506A6D67D7@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <658359AB-0263-433F-B987-8FDE53FC30E6@tech-software.net>

178.1E INMARSAT 3-F3

1545 MHz

North East from here 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich
vk4tec at tech-software.net
VK4TEC
0419738223



From andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Sep 13 20:07:34 2016
From: andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:07:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Subject: re:  CubeSat 3D
References: <1344191566.1037737.1473797254248.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1344191566.1037737.1473797254248@mail.yahoo.com>

Herman, 

I,for one, would be interested in the .stl files that would enable me to build a replica of your satellite. I can take DOT STL files throug GCODE to build something (not flyable) in PLA plastic, if you would like to provide them. At the moment I only have? a small copy of AAUSAT. I think they would be a great educational resource.
73 de andy G0SFJ

From david.n2teb at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 00:45:54 2016
From: david.n2teb at gmail.com (David Mennerich)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:45:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp
Message-ID: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>

 I started working some of the LEO SSB satellites again recently and came
across a broadband preamp that is sold by AMSAT. Here is the link:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=118

Has anyone here used this before?  Perhaps this would help me 'hear' a
little better with my Arrow antenna, and I could use it for V/U and U/V
modes. For those of you that operate with an Arrow, do you use this preamp
or some other preamp?  It appears there are other preamps out there that
are more expensive, but require one per band (V or U).  This one will cover
both - seems like a good option, just wanted to get your thoughts.

Thanks!  Dave N2TEB

From n0jy at amsat.org  Wed Sep 14 05:51:59 2016
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 00:51:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp
In-Reply-To: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b608444d-4352-107e-843d-d1953485b1fa@amsat.org>

David,

I bought one a couple of years ago and used it while in Colombia with my
Arrow, FT-817, and FT-857.  It worked well for my FO-29 contacts.

Do heed the warning about transmit protection, in swapping radios/coax I
forgot to switch the preamp and the 857 at 10W blew the preamp,
fortunately it was at the end of the trip!

My thoughts, if you're going to use something with an Arrow in an easy
setup where you don't have remote/automatic switching and you're
possibly portable and such, it seems like a good place to start because
if you do mess up it's less of a loss dollar-wise.  Just be sure to be
sure before you transmit.  If/when you set up something more permanent,
as you said there are much better but more expensive options.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 9/13/2016 19:45, David Mennerich wrote:
>  I started working some of the LEO SSB satellites again recently and came
> across a broadband preamp that is sold by AMSAT. Here is the link:
> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=118
>
> Has anyone here used this before?  Perhaps this would help me 'hear' a
> little better with my Arrow antenna, and I could use it for V/U and U/V
> modes. For those of you that operate with an Arrow, do you use this preamp
> or some other preamp?  It appears there are other preamps out there that
> are more expensive, but require one per band (V or U).  This one will cover
> both - seems like a good option, just wanted to get your thoughts.
>
> Thanks!  Dave N2TEB
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>


From therman89 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 09:56:22 2016
From: therman89 at gmail.com (Herman Tibor)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 11:56:22 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Subject: re: CubeSat 3D
In-Reply-To: <1344191566.1037737.1473797254248@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1344191566.1037737.1473797254248.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1344191566.1037737.1473797254248@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABL5g1Aj5+ngCh0xOvJYb8pcNtxhWvwH_62hU+S07RDNBH+hhg@mail.gmail.com>

Sure, you can get the FreeCAD project here, then you can export it to any
format you like.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ortmofbj67c7ltr/SMOG-1_pub.FCStd?dl=0

73 de Tibor HA4TI


?dv, Herman Tibor


2016-09-13 22:07 GMT+02:00 andy thomas via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>:

> Herman,
>
> I,for one, would be interested in the .stl files that would enable me to
> build a replica of your satellite. I can take DOT STL files throug GCODE to
> build something (not flyable) in PLA plastic, if you would like to provide
> them. At the moment I only have  a small copy of AAUSAT. I think they would
> be a great educational resource.
> 73 de andy G0SFJ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 11:51:44 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 06:51:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] IMPORTANT notice for AMSAT Symposium Cruise Attendees
Message-ID: <CAPovOwd9XpwUZbVDh8hwDzbC--i1QdpdEFQJ0yjSCuAXECbJxQ@mail.gmail.com>

PAYMENT DUE

If you are attending the 2016 AMSAT Symposium Carnival cruise, your
final payment is likely due. The majority of our accounts were due
September 12.

If your scheduled payment method fails, Carnival will attempt to
contact you by phone or email.

Please take a moment to ensure your final payment has been made.

CARNIVAL ACCOUNT

If you have not registered on the Carnival website to supply your
guest information, you should consider doing so by going to the link
below and choosing "Create Account."

https://www.carnival.com/BookedGuest/guestmanagement/mycarnival/logon

Signing up on their website allows you to pre-enter required boarding
information, schedule shore excursions for Cozumel, and set payment
method for onboard purchases. Non-USA passengers, this is the best
method to enter all your passport details.

Please reply directly to me off-BB if you have any questions.  I am
inundated with email at the moment so it may be 24-48 hours before I
reply.

Thank you,
Clayton
W5PFG

From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 12:05:39 2016
From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 07:05:39 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp
In-Reply-To: <CAJJyj=YkB93QgvR1V=S-zEMydGa630zNBxUfxu6DAvHRtC7jtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJJyj=a6Sku=YoOXLJ_8+3P2WGu3B8jT8uZek+Oiu+h7uh13iQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJJyj=YkB93QgvR1V=S-zEMydGa630zNBxUfxu6DAvHRtC7jtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJJyj=btTjZxQLv8C=dmS280-EdebpPu-reyADfhmBX2Fk-QFg@mail.gmail.com>

I use it for portable operations with my Arrow antenna.  For my home setup
I use an ARR rf-switched preamp on the 70 cm antenna.   Heed Jerry N0JY's
warnings about never transmitting through the amsat one.  You will burn it
out every time!

73
Rolf. NR0T

On Sep 13, 2016 11:04 PM, "David Mennerich" <david.n2teb at gmail.com> wrote:

 I started working some of the LEO SSB satellites again recently and came
across a broadband preamp that is sold by AMSAT. Here is the link:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=118

Has anyone here used this before?  Perhaps this would help me 'hear' a
little better with my Arrow antenna, and I could use it for V/U and U/V
modes. For those of you that operate with an Arrow, do you use this preamp
or some other preamp?  It appears there are other preamps out there that
are more expensive, but require one per band (V or U).  This one will cover
both - seems like a good option, just wanted to get your thoughts.

Thanks!  Dave N2TEB
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From nss at mwt.net  Wed Sep 14 13:17:38 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 08:17:38 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp
In-Reply-To: <CAJJyj=btTjZxQLv8C=dmS280-EdebpPu-reyADfhmBX2Fk-QFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJJyj=a6Sku=YoOXLJ_8+3P2WGu3B8jT8uZek+Oiu+h7uh13iQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJJyj=YkB93QgvR1V=S-zEMydGa630zNBxUfxu6DAvHRtC7jtw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJJyj=btTjZxQLv8C=dmS280-EdebpPu-reyADfhmBX2Fk-QFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1c4a1539-2711-0dc1-b0b5-f0c32cd1e294@mwt.net>

I can not seem to find any spec's on it.

Gains,, Noise figures etc..

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/14/2016 7:05 AM, Rolf Krogstad wrote:
> I use it for portable operations with my Arrow antenna.  For my home setup
> I use an ARR rf-switched preamp on the 70 cm antenna.   Heed Jerry N0JY's
> warnings about never transmitting through the amsat one.  You will burn it
> out every time!
>
> 73
> Rolf. NR0T
>
> On Sep 13, 2016 11:04 PM, "David Mennerich" <david.n2teb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   I started working some of the LEO SSB satellites again recently and came
> across a broadband preamp that is sold by AMSAT. Here is the link:
> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=118
>
> Has anyone here used this before?  Perhaps this would help me 'hear' a
> little better with my Arrow antenna, and I could use it for V/U and U/V
> modes. For those of you that operate with an Arrow, do you use this preamp
> or some other preamp?  It appears there are other preamps out there that
> are more expensive, but require one per band (V or U).  This one will cover
> both - seems like a good option, just wanted to get your thoughts.
>
> Thanks!  Dave N2TEB
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>


From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Sep 14 15:32:06 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 11:32:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp
In-Reply-To: <1c4a1539-2711-0dc1-b0b5-f0c32cd1e294@mwt.net>
References: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJJyj=a6Sku=YoOXLJ_8+3P2WGu3B8jT8uZek+Oiu+h7uh13iQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJJyj=YkB93QgvR1V=S-zEMydGa630zNBxUfxu6DAvHRtC7jtw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJJyj=btTjZxQLv8C=dmS280-EdebpPu-reyADfhmBX2Fk-QFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1c4a1539-2711-0dc1-b0b5-f0c32cd1e294@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoiiiud5N-n5E4OK32y+tVCnyUVgaDDqBa8a7h20+Eohg@mail.gmail.com>

The documentation for the preamp is here:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/docs/preamp.pdf

The limited testing described in the documentation shows 15 - 20 dB of gain.

The preamp is based on the MAR7 amplifier. The typical noise figure of
that device is 5.0 dB per these specifications:
http://www2.toulouse.iufm.fr/iufm/etudiants/concours/cned/sujets_99/acrobat/docs/mar-xx.pdf

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> I can not seem to find any spec's on it.
>
> Gains,, Noise figures etc..
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>
> On 9/14/2016 7:05 AM, Rolf Krogstad wrote:
>>
>> I use it for portable operations with my Arrow antenna.  For my home setup
>> I use an ARR rf-switched preamp on the 70 cm antenna.   Heed Jerry N0JY's
>> warnings about never transmitting through the amsat one.  You will burn it
>> out every time!
>>
>> 73
>> Rolf. NR0T
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2016 11:04 PM, "David Mennerich" <david.n2teb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   I started working some of the LEO SSB satellites again recently and came
>> across a broadband preamp that is sold by AMSAT. Here is the link:
>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=118
>>
>> Has anyone here used this before?  Perhaps this would help me 'hear' a
>> little better with my Arrow antenna, and I could use it for V/U and U/V
>> modes. For those of you that operate with an Arrow, do you use this preamp
>> or some other preamp?  It appears there are other preamps out there that
>> are more expensive, but require one per band (V or U).  This one will
>> cover
>> both - seems like a good option, just wanted to get your thoughts.
>>
>> Thanks!  Dave N2TEB
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 15:52:13 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 11:52:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Wright Brothers National Memorial NM29 NPOTA Sat
 Activation and update on SS04 NPOTA activation
Message-ID: <CALn0fKP5bkMZHD5DamwR3_3xXZEqkHANEy0=C=8oyUjsL8KAEA@mail.gmail.com>

https://youtu.be/C0qLC03jDTA

I made 14 contacts and the last one was my first international contact
on SO-50, to 8P9EH in Barbados!

This is my National Parks on The Air (NPOTA) SO-50 satellite
activation from August 29th 2016 at the Wright Brothers National
Memorial in Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina. The NPS unit is NM29 and
the grid square is FM26.

NX9B  EM60 CONTACT #1
W5PFG EM21 CONTACT #2
W9NQ  EN64 CONTACT #3
W4FS  FM06 CONTACT #4
AA5PK DM91 CONTACT #5
WC7V  DN46 CONTACT #6
N8RO  EM00 CONTACT #7
K4FEG EM55 CONTACT #8
N8HM  FM18 CONTACT #9
N3CRT FN20 CONTACT #10
W3ZM  FM18 CONTACT #11 AMSAT-NA club call (N8HM)
KC5WNV EM21 CONTACT #12 TEXAS RADIOTELEGRAPHERS UNION (W5PFG)
NW3DC FM18 CONTACT #13 District of Columbia Amateur Radio Society (N8HM)
8P9EH GK03 #14

The day before this also did an NPOTA activation from Cape Hatteras
National Seashore SS04 FM25. I won't be making a video of that as it
was in the dark and the camera stopped recording over and over. For
both of these activations I have not uploaded the logs to LoTW yet,
but I will.

Perhaps even will do it tomorrow.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed Sep 14 18:12:14 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:12:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] =?iso-8859-1?q?Upcoming_ARISS_contact_with_C=2EE=2EPR?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?=2E_Almad=E9n=2C_Ja=E9n=2C_Spain?=
Message-ID: <2E38937F24694293B5254FAB6F66D454@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain on 15 Sept. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:14 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and EA7URJ. The contact should be audible over Spain and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

Primary Education State School. This school year (2013/2014) there are 420 students from 6 to 12 years old. C.E.PR. Almad?n is a Multilingual School with Fran?ais as L2 and English as L3.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. When you were child, have you ever dreamt to be an Astronaut?

2. What do I have to study to be an Astronaut?

3. What do you feel when you see so far the Earth from the space?

4. How is the outer space? Is it nice?

5. What kind of work do you do in the ISS, and what is the purpose?

6. What was the most dangerous mission that you have confronted?

7. What is the ISS speed?

8. How many times does the ISS spend to turn around the Earth?

9. How is a common day in the Station?

10. Have you ever seen an UFO, or any strange object?

11. How do you get water and oxygen on ISS?

12. Are there meteorites dangerous for you?

13. What is the most beautiful experience have you ever had at Space?

14. What happen if the Space suit breaks during EVA?

15. How is the Earth seen from the ISS during the night?

16. How are your meals and foods in the Space?

17. What difficulties do you have for your personal hygiene?

18. Is it possible to see the ISS from the Earth?

19. At this moment where is situated the ISS?

20. What problems could you have when you come back to the Earth?

 

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

      TBD

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 19:14:55 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:14:55 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] 4A2L operation from grid DL87th on satellites
Message-ID: <CAPovOwfqwymWU_q-Xu-hFcc3Ac3Nd2beCUk6KQgoSUGV7s=hew@mail.gmail.com>

Ismael, XE1AY, will be operating FM satellites as 4A2L from 15-18 September.

More details on Facebook or QRZ:

https://www.facebook.com/cuatroalfa.doslima

https://www.qrz.com/db/4a2l

Thanks to XE1H for the information.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From mjohns166 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 14 19:15:19 2016
From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:15:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp
In-Reply-To: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2041383381.2707457.1473880519248@mail.yahoo.com>

For portable operation the switched ARR pre-amps, as have been mentioned, are a good option. But don't take them out in the rain!

For weather-proof mast-mounted pre-amps, I've had very good luck with the Mini-2 and Mini-70 GaAsFET pre-amps from SHF-Elektronik in Germany (http://www.shf-elektronik.de/en/). At current exchange rates, these are roughly the same price as the ARR, and considerably cheaper than some other mast-mount alternatives. The IC-9100 powers them through the coax without the need for any other supply.

I have no affiliation with the company, but they've been working flawlessly for me for a couple of years now at my home station.-- 

Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ 
Decorah, Iowa USA  EN43
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, 
   you would stay out and your dog would go in." 
     ---Mark Twain


----- Original Message -----
From: David Mennerich <david.n2teb at gmail.com>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp

I started working some of the LEO SSB satellites again recently and came
across a broadband preamp that is sold by AMSAT. Here is the link:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=118

Has anyone here used this before?  Perhaps this would help me 'hear' a
little better with my Arrow antenna, and I could use it for V/U and U/V
modes. For those of you that operate with an Arrow, do you use this preamp
or some other preamp?  It appears there are other preamps out there that
are more expensive, but require one per band (V or U).  This one will cover
both - seems like a good option, just wanted to get your thoughts.

Thanks!  Dave N2TEB
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Wed Sep 14 20:07:24 2016
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:07:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp
In-Reply-To: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2e111ccf-a669-679e-e7f4-3f55ac8a7ec2@pobox.com>

On 09/13/16 19:45, David Mennerich wrote:
> Has anyone here used this before?  Perhaps this would help me 'hear' a
> little better with my Arrow antenna, and I could use it for V/U and U/V
> modes. For those of you that operate with an Arrow, do you use this preamp
> or some other preamp?  It appears there are other preamps out there that
> are more expensive, but require one per band (V or U).  This one will cover
> both - seems like a good option, just wanted to get your thoughts.

Hello David,

You may have missed my previous post, due to no subject in the title.

If you're looking for a shoestring-budget LNA for 2m, the U310 JFET
preamp has been a good performer for me.

http://www.ham-radio.com/n6ca/50MHz/50appnotes/U310.html

I've constructed one in a spare project box, and the gain (12dB) is
right on the predicted value. I have not verified the NF, but it is
claimed to be near 1.0dB. I built in in one evening, with some extra
evenings diagnosing a capacitor issue. Use a multi-turn piston trimmer
for the 1-10pF drain capacitor, as the output tuning is very sharp.

I've changed the layout a bit, but here's an early picture of the unit:

http://www.n0zgo.net/lna/

The air-core inductors are not difficult to wind on a 1/4" drill bit.

Not as fancy as a GaAsFET or pHEMT device, but it works just fine to
hear AO-85 and AO-7 with a non-ideal satellite antenna (folded
horizontal dipole) at 10 degrees above the horizon.

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Sep 14 20:21:32 2016
From: andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:21:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] CubeSat 3D
References: <2055561463.2247598.1473884492037.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2055561463.2247598.1473884492037@mail.yahoo.com>

That's very, very good; thank you very much. I'll work on assembling a "cubesat" in the next few weeks.
many thanks
73 de andy g0sfj

From planophore at aei.ca  Wed Sep 14 20:55:56 2016
From: planophore at aei.ca (Graham)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:55:56 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Broadband Preamp
In-Reply-To: <2041383381.2707457.1473880519248@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CABYNC=Yv-ry_e_T7nykZZgjkteH4A92QZq0erUteXY+CJVtHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<2041383381.2707457.1473880519248@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9eba6a52-1b01-8dde-9af7-5c4a774a4ba9@aei.ca>

Mini Kits Australia make a very nice 2m switched preamp, 100W CW 
non-sequenced, 500W when used sequenced.

Mark has a new version which uses the PGA103 mimic. I have two of the 
previous version and they work very well. One I use for VHF 
roving/portable use and the other is mast mounted. They do need to be 
put in an enclosure of some sort and Mini Kits sells a nice enclosure 
that fits nicely and is not expensive. I put mine in Hammond 1590WBBFL 
diecast enclosures.

http://www.minikits.com.au/

http://www.minikits.com.au/electronic-kits/rf-amplifiers/rf-preamplifiers/EME220-2M

10 to 18 dB gain (adjustable) 0.8db NF

Mark is great to deal with, shipping is reasonable and quick, and the 
exchange of US$ to AUS$ is attractive.

cheers, Graham ve3gtc



On 2016-09-14 19:15, Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> For portable operation the switched ARR pre-amps, as have been mentioned, are a good option. But don't take them out in the rain!
>
> For weather-proof mast-mounted pre-amps, I've had very good luck with the Mini-2 and Mini-70 GaAsFET pre-amps from SHF-Elektronik in Germany (http://www.shf-elektronik.de/en/). At current exchange rates, these are roughly the same price as the ARR, and considerably cheaper than some other mast-mount alternatives. The IC-9100 powers them through the coax without the need for any other supply.
>
> I have no affiliation with the company, but they've been working flawlessly for me for a couple of years now at my home station.--
>
> Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ
> Decorah, Iowa USA  EN43
> -----------------------------------------------
> "Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,
>     you would stay out and your dog would go in."
>       ---Mark Twain
>


From gp_ab5r at outlook.com  Wed Sep 14 21:18:04 2016
From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:18:04 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIPLEXERS
Message-ID: <CY4PR11MB1941655B3A7C3E010807F99AD0F10@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Any recommendations (favorites) for an antenna  diplexer for V/U split?


Jerry AB5R

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 21:28:45 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 16:28:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIPLEXERS
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB1941655B3A7C3E010807F99AD0F10@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB1941655B3A7C3E010807F99AD0F10@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ-gxUjMYvnRMFma3QwxxQcmVB-2TfgmRV=jJkY8EqFMRQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r at outlook.com> wrote:
> Any recommendations (favorites) for an antenna  diplexer for V/U split?

For what antenna?  I got the one that Arrow sells with their antenna.
Works fine.  I also have a Comet CF-4160J.  Works great ... but I've
never used it for satellite stuff (it connects a couple of middle-aged
IsoPoles to an FT90R at N5UWY).



-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From seb at wintek.com  Wed Sep 14 21:44:07 2016
From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen  E. Belter)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:44:07 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIPLEXERS
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ-gxUjMYvnRMFma3QwxxQcmVB-2TfgmRV=jJkY8EqFMRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB1941655B3A7C3E010807F99AD0F10@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
	<CANVAiQ-gxUjMYvnRMFma3QwxxQcmVB-2TfgmRV=jJkY8EqFMRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D3FF3B82.72CE2%seb@wintek.com>

Gerald,

I use the Comet CF-416C on several satellite setups.  It works well as a
diplexer (two antennas to one radio) and as a Mode-J filter to keep a 2 m
transmitter from desensing a 70 cm receiver.  See
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2136 .

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com


On 9/14/16, 5:28 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Peter Laws"
<amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org on behalf of plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r at outlook.com>
>wrote:
>> Any recommendations (favorites) for an antenna  diplexer for V/U split?
>
>For what antenna?  I got the one that Arrow sells with their antenna.
>Works fine.  I also have a Comet CF-4160J.  Works great ... but I've
>never used it for satellite stuff (it connects a couple of middle-aged
>IsoPoles to an FT90R at N5UWY).
>
>
>
>-- 
>Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Wed Sep 14 22:29:44 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 22:29:44 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIPLEXERS
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR11MB1941655B3A7C3E010807F99AD0F10@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY4PR11MB1941655B3A7C3E010807F99AD0F10@CY4PR11MB1941.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcZte2o7UWaM_Zur03Df404n6XCyPvTFLPE1NWzqjMp-w@mail.gmail.com>

Jerry,

I used to rely on Comet diplexers, but have been using the MFJ-916s
for a few years. They come in versions with SO-239 sockets all
over (MFJ-916B) or N sockets (MFJ-916N). They work just as
well as the Comet or other diplexers in my opinion, cost about
half of the equivalent Comet (or Diamond) units, and are not
made in Mississippi.

73!



Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK



On Wednesday, September 14, 2016, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r at outlook.com> wrote:

> Any recommendations (favorites) for an antenna  diplexer for V/U split?
>
>
> Jerry AB5R
> _______________________________________________
>
>

From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Thu Sep 15 12:44:57 2016
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:44:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Look for K2BSA/5 on FO-29 Saturday.
Message-ID: <001801d20f4e$f75cb740$e61625c0$@net>

I am running another Radio Merit Badge workshop for the National Scouting
Museum in Irving, TX, EM12, this Saturday, September 17 and activating
K2BSA/5.  Weather permitting, this will be my first attempt to do a linear
transponder satellite pass contact during one of these badge workshops so I
am praying that the rain and radio cooperate.  Look for us near the center
of the FO-29 passband on the 1801Z pass and take a minute to say hello to my
assembled Scouts and be patient as they say hello back.

73 and see you on the bird.

Tom Schuessler, N5HYP



From rhyolite at leikhim.com  Thu Sep 15 22:54:24 2016
From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 18:54:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale Reference Synthesizer for Microwave "Brick"
In-Reply-To: <454e54aa-8a68-b8d7-6910-2595ba76a884@leikhim.com>
References: <454e54aa-8a68-b8d7-6910-2595ba76a884@leikhim.com>
Message-ID: <456cf096-f259-2452-d00c-59e38314ac2c@leikhim.com>

Price reduced, final hours!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162197662488?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

On 8/22/2016 10:47 PM, Joe Leikhim wrote:
>
> For anyone still playing with old school CALIFORNIA MICROWAVE  type 
> Microwave brick cavity oscillators.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/162150569755?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>
> I am cleaning out closets to make room for the next big project.
>
> Also check out my other related stuff from time to time.
>
> Thanks
> -- 
> Joe K4SAT
>
> 407-982-0446
>
> WWW.LEIKHIM.COM

-- 
Joe Leikhim


Leikhim and Associates

Communications Consultants

Oviedo, Florida

JLeikhim at Leikhim.com

407-982-0446

WWW.LEIKHIM.COM


From AJ9N at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 06:09:36 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 02:09:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-16 06:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <130818.503236c9.450ce69f@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-16  06:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate  Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact was successful: Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC 52 deg  (***)


****************************************************************************
**
Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with 118  (***)

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-16 06:30 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1084. (***)
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1049.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time  slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A  complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-09-16 06:00 UTC.  
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From n4ufo at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 16 10:38:29 2016
From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:38:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb]  DIPLEXERS
References: <566905888.2117143.1474022309782.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <566905888.2117143.1474022309782@mail.yahoo.com>

I second the MFJ-916s... I have two in the mast mount box before the preamps on my base antenna, one for each 'side', and I use one in my portable gear bag. They work fine and cost less.

73, Kevin

From k9jkm at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 13:58:51 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 08:58:51 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-260 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - 2016 AMSAT
	Board of Directors Election Results
Message-ID: <003201d21022$7462f320$5d28d960$@net>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN
ANS-260

In this edition:

* 2016 AMSAT Board of Directors Election Results

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-260.01
ANS-260 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 260.01
>From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD.
September 16, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-260.01

2016 AMSAT Board of Directors Election Results

As a result of the 2016 Board of Directors Election, Tom Clark, K3IO; Mark
Hammond, N8MH; and Bruce Paige, KK5DO; will serve on the board for two
years.

The First Alternate is Paul Stoetzer, N8HM and the Second Alternate is
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG. Both will serve for a term of one year.

The results of the voting with 697 ballots cast are as follows:

Tom Clark, K3IO..................547
Mark Hammond, N8MH...............504
Bruce Paige, KK5DO...............396
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM..............362
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG...........200

Submitted by:
Martha Saragovitz, Manager          
Paul Stoetzer, Secretary

[ANS thanks Martha Saragovitz, and Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above
information]

/EX



From lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com  Fri Sep 16 15:07:40 2016
From: lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com (Lee Ernstrom)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:07:40 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] FN Grid expedition
Message-ID: <CAGgvt8jwHc9o-SoP4c47MCAO+DQNK_B6edmX4gvf8ojej7D60w@mail.gmail.com>

For those of you who are interested in working me on SO-50 beginning
October 1, 2016 while I am cruising aboard the Norwegian Gem passing
through a bunch of FN water grids please refer to my C6AQD QRZ.com page for
more updated details on a list of those grids and QSL information.  I hope
to be passing out new grids like candy during that week.

Lee (Doc) Ernstrom
WA7HQD / C6AQD/MM

From rwmcgwier at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 16:23:12 2016
From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:23:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sunday experience at ARRL/TAPR DCC
Message-ID: <CA+K5gzc16BmzXiS=ii56u1HuW9kEkt6abbZA-kh_fhWCMerUHQ@mail.gmail.com>

For those going to ARRL/TAPR DCC please bring an HT.  Michelle Thompson,
W5NYV, are going to have you use your analog computer (brain) to do
spectrum collaboration challenge.

Bob

-- 
Bob McGwier
Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
Research Professor Virginia Tech
Chief Scientist:  The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
Technology
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
Director of AMSAT and member of PVRC, TAPR, and life member of ARRL and
AMSAT

From jim at milnet.uk.net  Fri Sep 16 20:25:24 2016
From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:25:24 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube-1
Message-ID: <72F7110CA7A44A08AA04F744991C3364@jimPC2>

Hi Folks,

  Just to say that the mode has been switch just now to full time transponder mode.

Please note that we normally try and switch back to education mode on Sunday evening, but this might not happen due to non availability of command station operators. If non are available on Sunday night we will switch back to education mode as soon as possible.

73s Jim G3WGM

From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 20:40:13 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:40:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R is on the air from CM93xx
Message-ID: <CAPovOwdKxJjpEM0_kEGTF083FcGKLzEfX1D1E56Pn71rBaPN9Q@mail.gmail.com>

K6R appeared on UKube-1 as scheduled at around 20:30 UTC and were
heard making numerous contacts with stations in the western half of
the USA.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 23:58:52 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:58:52 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R is on the air from CM93xx
In-Reply-To: <CAPovOwdKxJjpEM0_kEGTF083FcGKLzEfX1D1E56Pn71rBaPN9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPovOwdKxJjpEM0_kEGTF083FcGKLzEfX1D1E56Pn71rBaPN9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57DC873C.8080407@gmail.com>

Nothing heard from K6R on the AO-07 mode B 22:30Z pass, but worked Chip
K7JA in DM03 with a good signal.

Greg  KO6TH


Clayton Coleman wrote:
> K6R appeared on UKube-1 as scheduled at around 20:30 UTC and were
> heard making numerous contacts with stations in the western half of
> the USA.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Sat Sep 17 00:01:47 2016
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:01:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R is on the air from CM93xx
In-Reply-To: <57DC873C.8080407@gmail.com>
References: <CAPovOwdKxJjpEM0_kEGTF083FcGKLzEfX1D1E56Pn71rBaPN9Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<57DC873C.8080407@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FdQJpJh5EmiNXKiY4t1TEuLCM3kKDnUSBuvfSxWatcpKA@mail.gmail.com>

They were just on XW-2C

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Galaxy S7

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Sat Sep 17 00:18:34 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:18:34 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R is on the air from CM93xx
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FdQJpJh5EmiNXKiY4t1TEuLCM3kKDnUSBuvfSxWatcpKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPovOwdKxJjpEM0_kEGTF083FcGKLzEfX1D1E56Pn71rBaPN9Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<57DC873C.8080407@gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FdQJpJh5EmiNXKiY4t1TEuLCM3kKDnUSBuvfSxWatcpKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57DC8BDA.8070508@gmail.com>

Wow, that was a really low elevation pass here, and likely not much
higher where they are (about 400 mi sse).  Good job!

Waiting now for SO-50..

Greg  KO6TH


Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
>
> They were just on XW-2C
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>


From kk5do at amsat.org  Sat Sep 17 00:55:35 2016
From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:55:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R is on the air from CM93xx
In-Reply-To: <57DC873C.8080407@gmail.com>
References: <CAPovOwdKxJjpEM0_kEGTF083FcGKLzEfX1D1E56Pn71rBaPN9Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<57DC873C.8080407@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a2291565-c34f-167f-a05e-2b7976059377@amsat.org>

i chose a bad pass to try and work someone. they were on the so-50 pass 
just now and i could not get through to anyone. i have that grid from 
the late 90's and to think i went outside looking for a zika mosquito to 
listen to that pass and try to work someone.

73...bruce

On 9/16/2016 6:58 PM, Greg D wrote:
> Nothing heard from K6R on the AO-07 mode B 22:30Z pass, but worked Chip
> K7JA in DM03 with a good signal.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Clayton Coleman wrote:
>> K6R appeared on UKube-1 as scheduled at around 20:30 UTC and were
>> heard making numerous contacts with stations in the western half of
>> the USA.
>>
>> 73
>> Clayton
>> W5PFG
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From k.alexander at rogers.com  Sat Sep 17 02:42:05 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:42:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FN05/06/07 on Sunday Sept 18th
Message-ID: <efe16efa-4233-66a1-098e-8e360aba10f8@rogers.com>

Hi All,

As I Tweeted earlier, I am moving my departure day up to this Sunday so 
that I can spend a little more time in FN-05/06/07.  I'm also hoping 
that this will allow me to spend more time in EO80 and EO90, hopefully 2 
days in each grid.

I have to leave on Sunday morning so as to be in Barrie, ON at 9:00 for 
the opening of a store where I plan to buy an inverter so I can 
re-charge the various batteries without having to run back into town all 
the time.

I will stop in FN05/06/07 as I am passing through and operate from 
whatever is available at the time.  Unfortunately, that means only two 
passes in the case of FN05 and one pass in the case of FN06. FN07 is 
another matter as you will see.  FN08 might happen on Monday morning.

PLEASE NOTE:  All times shown are in EASTERN TIME.  Add or subtract as 
necessary for the zone you are in.  I'm conversant in UTC, but this is 
just easier for me.

ALSO NOTE:  I'm still very much a rookie on the linear satellites, 
having made only one QSO so far.  However, I've received a lot of 
coaching an encouragement from all of you and I think things will be OK 
after the first few attempts.  Bear with me.

THE SCHEDULE (if the columns don't align well then highlight the table 
and convert it to Courier font)

Sunday Sept 18th Eastern Time
  ----------------------------------------------------------
  [FN05]
  18.09.2016  FO-29        11:27 11:41    14   40  130 - 350
  18.09.2016  FO-29        13:12 13:26    14   46  190 - 342

  [FN06]
  18.09.2016  FO-29        15:02 15:08    06   07  260 - 317

  [FN07]
  18.09.2016  XW-2F        17:57 18:04    07   28  132 - 360
  18.09.2016  SO-50        18:15 18:25    10   30  185 - 051
  18.09.2016  XW-2A        18:40 18:47    07   24  131 - 000
  18.09.2016  XW-2F        19:31 19:39    08   25  200 - 336
  18.09.2016  SO-50        19:55 20:06    11   51  237 - 039
  18.09.2016  XW-2A        20:13 20:20    07   25  200 - 334
  18.09.2016  SO-50        21:38 21:47    09   18  287 - 042

If I miss the first pass or two in FN07 it's because I haven't found a 
good place to set up.  Check @ve3hls on Twitter for updates.

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


From ve2bmc at me.com  Sat Sep 17 03:38:49 2016
From: ve2bmc at me.com (Jimmy Blanchette)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 03:38:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R Update September 16
Message-ID: <c114855f-2636-4352-926f-30da6fb5a5ee@me.com>

Hi all,





As the Pilot Relay Station for the K6R expedition, I am happy to report that everything is going extremely well so far. Earlier this evening, K6R communicated a status update audio report which I have recorded and happy to make available to the community. Please use the Dropbox link below in order to download the MP3 audio message from K6R:




https://www.dropbox.com/s/hduh5yoq66vnl4k/K6R%20Report%2009-16-16.mp3?dl=0




In addition, in order to give a taste of the excellent work that David and Wyatt have been doing on the Island, I have made a video/audio recording of a portion of a SO-50 pass which took place late this afternoon. You can use the Dropbox link below in order to download the file (.wmv format):





https://www.dropbox.com/s/314jwp8fqvidcfn/K6R%20-%20SO50%20Pass%2009-16.wmv?dl=0




There will be another report tomorrow evening.





Thanks to the David (KG5CCI) and Wyatt (AC0RA) for activating this extremely rare grid and for the outstanding job!




Stay tuned.





73, Jimmy


KK6FAH






From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Sat Sep 17 14:53:46 2016
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 09:53:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Setting memory frequencies for FM satellite operation
Message-ID: <551B6066D57645079A7EB54F045C79AF@Ron8300PC>

Is there a computer program that will compute a table of time, azimuth, elevation for a given satellite and station location for a set of Doppler corrected frequencies (both uplink and downlink) in user-specified frequency intervals.

For example, SO-50

TIME       AZ    EL    UP            DOWN
0959:00    10    34    145982.17     435165.53
1000:00    44    46    145980.66     435170.05

but where the frequencies are in user-defined increments of 2.5 or 5.0 kHz.

This would simplify choosing frequency memories for handhelds and when to switch memories when operating FM satellites.

Ron W5RKN

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sat Sep 17 15:21:18 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:21:18 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Setting memory frequencies for FM satellite operation
In-Reply-To: <551B6066D57645079A7EB54F045C79AF@Ron8300PC>
References: <551B6066D57645079A7EB54F045C79AF@Ron8300PC>
Message-ID: <2245DC69-807C-4BCA-A64D-0935CDE63997@tech-software.net>

Ron 

I used to run Linux with predict

Perl code would connect to the predict server port

Then adjust the radio accordingly

Having said that there are some Windows programs that track satellites and control your radio

Andrew

-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 18 Sep 2016, at 00:53, Ronald G. Parsons <w5rkn at w5rkn.com> wrote:
> 
> Is there a computer program that will compute a table of time, azimuth, elevation for a given satellite and station location for a set of Doppler corrected frequencies (both uplink and downlink) in user-specified frequency intervals.
> 
> For example, SO-50
> 
> TIME       AZ    EL    UP            DOWN
> 0959:00    10    34    145982.17     435165.53
> 1000:00    44    46    145980.66     435170.05
> 
> but where the frequencies are in user-defined increments of 2.5 or 5.0 kHz.
> 
> This would simplify choosing frequency memories for handhelds and when to switch memories when operating FM satellites.
> 
> Ron W5RKN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Sat Sep 17 18:24:17 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 14:24:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R is on the air from CM93xx
In-Reply-To: <CAPovOwdKxJjpEM0_kEGTF083FcGKLzEfX1D1E56Pn71rBaPN9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPovOwdKxJjpEM0_kEGTF083FcGKLzEfX1D1E56Pn71rBaPN9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpt5z7bVZQ6PGSZ9d81Z_eKNFakjiuTCBM6b3S7O_VXzA@mail.gmail.com>

The last pass of FO-29, at 1803Z, should have been a very productive one as
it covered the entire United States. Unfortunately lots of oblivious
operators were pounding the transponder with high power SSB and CW signals,
causing their 5 watt signal to be extremely weak. I only heard them make a
handful of QSOs. They had to move when some moron started firing up the
high power CW right on top of them.


73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx at gmail.com>
wrote:

> K6R appeared on UKube-1 as scheduled at around 20:30 UTC and were
> heard making numerous contacts with stations in the western half of
> the USA.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From va6bmj at gmail.com  Sat Sep 17 19:09:51 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 19:09:51 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Setting memory frequencies for FM satellite operation
In-Reply-To: <551B6066D57645079A7EB54F045C79AF@Ron8300PC>
References: <551B6066D57645079A7EB54F045C79AF@Ron8300PC>
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkPRwsf2qCND_L3bupEJ-v+-A-iogK1=fuZ+pR0GOfCT5Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/17/16, Ronald G. Parsons <w5rkn at w5rkn.com> wrote:
> Is there a computer program that will compute a table of time, azimuth,
> elevation for a given satellite and station location for a set of Doppler
> corrected frequencies (both uplink and downlink) in user-specified frequency
> intervals.
>
> For example, SO-50
>
> TIME       AZ    EL    UP            DOWN
> 0959:00    10    34    145982.17     435165.53
> 1000:00    44    46    145980.66     435170.05
>
> but where the frequencies are in user-defined increments of 2.5 or 5.0 kHz.
>
> This would simplify choosing frequency memories for handhelds and when to
> switch memories when operating FM satellites.

<snip>

I've always followed the instructions in the manual for my FT-817 for
programming and labeled the memories in accordance with the key points
in a pass:  AOS, TCA, and LOS.  Once I'm on a bird, I simply switch
between memories when the downlink starts sounding a bit fuzzy.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From AJ9N at aol.com  Sat Sep 17 21:06:28 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 17:06:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-17 21:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <14c88d.1b6acca0.450f0a54@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-17  21:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

****************************************************************************
**
Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

*****************************************************************
*************
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with  118

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-17 21:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1084. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1049. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-09-16 06:00 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From mccardelm at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 02:04:11 2016
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 22:04:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-262 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CAM5+sou8JCXe-LgLOtumptsDiOEVs-+61n6dyD4XKMYQ6_Au6A@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-262

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Prepped/Packed for Shock Test
* IMPORTANT notice for AMSAT Symposium Cruise Attendees
* KX9X Plans for NPOTA Satellite Operation
* University Students Shown Amateur Radio
* Plan Ahead for New Years AMSAT CW Activity Day on the Satellites
* 2016 AMSAT Board of Directors Election Results
* US ARISS Contacts -Call for Proposals Remains Open through Nov 1
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-262.01
ANS-262 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 262.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
September 18, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-262.01


RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Prepped/Packed for Shock Test

AMSAT VP of Engineering, Jerry Buxton N0JY, has posted a video of
the final day of RadFxSat live testing, where the satellite gets one
more time in the sun and on the air for data on power and
temperatures.

In the video Jerry secures the solar panel covers, does a preflight
initialization, and packes it up to send off to Tyvak in California
for shock testing, which occurs September 22-30.  after the shock
test the satellite will come back to Fox Labs for post-shock testing
to make sure nothing broke. Next she will be taken to Orlando for
vibe and bakeout October 10-14.  That will be the finish, and
RadFxSat will then wait in Fox Labs for delivery/integration in
January 2017 with a March 16, 2017 launch date.

Watch the 38 minute video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vm-i_TvdOyU

[ANS thanks Jerry N0JY for the above information]


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IMPORTANT notice for AMSAT Symposium Cruise Attendees

PAYMENT DUE

If you are attending the 2016 AMSAT Symposium Carnival cruise, your
final payment is likely due. The majority of our accounts were due
September 12.

If your scheduled payment method fails, Carnival will attempt to
contact you by phone or email.

Please take a moment to ensure your final payment has been made.

CARNIVAL ACCOUNT

If you have not registered on the Carnival website to supply your
guest information, you should consider doing so by going to the link
below and choosing "Create Account."

https://www.carnival.com/BookedGuest/guestmanagement/mycarnival/logon

Signing up on their website allows you to pre-enter required boarding
information, schedule shore excursions for Cozumel, and set payment
method for onboard purchases. Non-USA passengers, this is the best
method to enter all your passport details.

Please reply directly to me off-BB if you have any questions.  I am
inundated with email at the moment so it may be 24-48 hours before I
reply.

[ANS thanks Clayton W5PFG for the above information]


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KX9X Plans for NPOTA Satellite Operation

Sean Kutzko, KX9X, says he will be hitting the road 9/24-9/28 to put
several NPOTA units in New York's Hudson Valley on the air. Becky
Schoenfeld, W1BXY and Sean will activate Martin van Buren (NS50),
Thomas Cole (AA23), the FDR home (NS36), Eleanor Roosevelt (NS14) and
Vanderbilt Mansion (NS74) on HF SSB/CW plus the following satellites:
SO-50, FO-29, XW-2A/2C/2F, and will even try AO-7 and AO-73.

They won't know specific operating schedules until the night before;
follow KX9X on Twitter for real-time info during these NPOTA
activations. They will sign and log as KX9X/2 and W1BXY. Satellite
gear will be two 817s, preamps, and an Arrow. Activations will be
daytime-only. Sean likes hanging out below the center of the passband
on the analog sats.

[ANS thanks Sean Kutzdo, KX9X, for the above information]


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University Students Shown Amateur Radio

AMSAT-India Regional Coordinator Rajesh Vagadia VU2EXP reports on
the ?Ham Radio ? Practical Insight? session given to 150 students at
Parul University.

Wonderful hands on session on ?Ham Radio ? Practical Insight? was
conducted at prestigious Parul University ? Baroda (Gujarat, India)
on September 8, 2016. Around 150 Engineering (EC) student & faculties
participated in the program & gain knowledge on the subject.

In-depth Presentation on Ham Radio, Interesting Ham Radio Events,
Video Documentary & SSTV Live demo was carried out by Rajesh Vagadia
VU2EXP. Students were excited to see line by line SSTV transmission
on the projected screen. To learn with fun, students were allowed to
make collective noise during transmission to observe their effect in
the SSTV reception!!!

Number of technical & general queries satisfied in Q&A session.
Sunny VU2PMU Shared his Ham Experience & Sardool VU2OPX Selected few
student with small Quiz.

VHF Demo (Modulation test) was nicely carried out by GIAR team
member Ankit VU3NMQ, Sardool VU2OPX, Sunny VU2PMU & myself. Student &
faculties learnt the potential of Ham Radio hobby & enjoyed the event
at the fullest.

I thank my fellow hams for their kind support and also thankful to
Prof. Jay Patel & Prof. Niraj Tever from Parul University to nicely
coordinate the event.

Wish this Ham event act as small SPARK (ignition) & in future some
of the student may fly high in World of Amateur Radio!

AMSAT-India http://amsatindia.org/

[ANS thanks Rajesh P. Vagadia VUEXP via AMSAT-UK for the above
information]


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Plan Ahead for New Years AMSAT CW Activity Day on the Satellites

Thanks to all who participated in AMSAT's Straight Key Night 2016,
held in memory of Ben Stevenson, W2BXA. For 25 years, AMSAT has
sponsored SKN on OSCAR, and it's been my pleasure to conduct this
event.

While Morse as a license qualification has gone the way of the spark
gap, I am pleased to see that amateur CW activity is as popular as
ever. Straight keys and "bugs", however, have found a niche primarily
with the boat anchor crowd, and AMSAT's insistence on their use in
OSCAR SKN has held down participation. Similar considerations have
led ARRL to broaden its annual HF event to include all forms of CW,
even computer-generated. The idea is to encourage everyone to enjoy
CW operation, no matter how they choose to do it. We agree 100%.

So, in with the new: AMSAT CW Activity Day.

As with the old SKN, it will be a fun event, not a contest, and will
run for 24 hours on January 1, 2017 (UTC). All forms of CW are
welcome. Since it is not a contest, there is no required exchange. A
QSO is a QSO. Working the same station on more than one satellite is
permitted.

Instead of submitting Best Fist nominations, all participants are
asked to post their results, including "Soapbox" comments, to AMSAT-
BB. Please include the satellites you used, and the number of CW QSOs
you had on each. While it is not necessary to post your full log, you
may do so if you wish.

CU on CW!

[ANS thanks Ray Soifer, W2RS, for the above information]


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2016 AMSAT Board of Directors Election Results

As a result of the 2016 Board of Directors Election, Tom Clark,
K3IO; Mark
Hammond, N8MH; and Bruce Paige, KK5DO; will serve on the board for two
years.

The First Alternate is Paul Stoetzer, N8HM and the Second Alternate is
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG. Both will serve for a term of one year.

The results of the voting with 697 ballots cast are as follows:

Tom Clark, K3IO..................547
Mark Hammond, N8MH...............504
Bruce Paige, KK5DO...............396
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM..............362
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG...........200

Submitted by:
Martha Saragovitz, Manager
Paul Stoetzer, Secretary

[ANS thanks Martha Saragovitz, and Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above
information]


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US ARISS Contacts -Call for Proposals Remains Open through Nov 1

Message to US Educators
Amateur Radio on the International Space Station
Contact Opportunity

Call for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 - November 1, 2016

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) Program
is seeking formal and informal education institutions and
organizations, individually or working together, to host an Amateur
Radio contact with a crew member on board the ISS. ARISS anticipates
that the contact would be held between July 1, 2017 and December 31,
2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will determine the exact contact
dates. To maximize these radio contact opportunities, ARISS is
looking for organizations that will draw large numbers of
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed
education plan.

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016. Proposal
information and documents can be found at
www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

The Opportunity
Crew members aboard the International Space Station will participate
in scheduled Amateur Radio contacts. These radio contacts are
approximately 10 minutes in length and allow students to interact
with the astronauts through a question-and-answer session.

An ARISS contact is a voice-only communication opportunity via
Amateur Radio between astronauts and cosmonauts aboard the space
station and classrooms and communities. ARISS contacts afford
education audiences the opportunity to learn firsthand from
astronauts what it is like to live and work in space and to learn
about space research conducted on the ISS. Students also will have an
opportunity to learn about satellite communication, wireless
technology, and radio science. Because of the nature of human
spaceflight and the complexity of scheduling activities aboard the
ISS, organizations must demonstrate flexibility to accommodate
changes in dates and times of the radio contact.

Amateur Radio organizations around the world, NASA, and space
agencies in Russia, Canada, Japan and Europe sponsor this educational
opportunity by providing the equipment and operational support to
enable direct communication between crew on the ISS and students
around the world via Amateur Radio. In the US, the program is managed
by AMSAT (Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation) and ARRL (American
Radio Relay League) in partnership with NASA and CASIS (Center for
the Advancement of Science in Space).

More Information
Interested parties can find more information about the program at
www.ariss.org and www.arrl.org/ARISS.

For proposal information and more details such as expectations,
proposal guidelines and proposal form, and dates and times of
Information Sessions go to
http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.
Please direct any questions to ariss at arrl dot org.

About ARISS
Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a
cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the
space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In
the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the
Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National
Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of
ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering,
and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via
amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in
classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of
experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with
large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during
these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities
learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more
information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

Also, join us on Facebook:  Amateur Radio on the International Space
Station (ARISS) / Follow us on Twitter:  ARISS_status

[ANS thanks ARISS for the above information]


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ARISS News

+ A Successful contact was made between C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain
and Astronaut Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ using Callsign OR4ISS. The contact
began Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC and lasted about nine and a half
minutes. Contact was direct via EA7URJ.
ARISS Mentor was Francesco IK?WGF.

School Information:
Primary Education State School. This school year (2013/2014) there
are 420 students from 6 to 12 years old. C.E.PR. Almad?n is a
Multilingual School with Fran?ais as L2 and English as L3.

[ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above
information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ NPOTA Activation Video Posted

  John Brier KG4AKV announced that he has posted a video of his SO-50
  satellite activation from August 29th 2016 at the Wright Brothers
  National Memorial in Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina. The NPS unit
  is NM29 and the grid square is FM26.

  The video can be viewed at:
  https://youtu.be/C0qLC03jDTA

  [ANS thanks John KG4AKV for the above information]

+ September issues of SatMagazine and MilSatMagazine are available
  for download.

  http://www.satmagazine.com/
  http://www.milsatmagazine.com/

  [ANS thanks Satnews for the above information]

+ Measuring Sky Angles With Your Hand

  Have you ever worked portable and wondered just how close you were
  holding your antenna in reference to the necessary altitude and
  azimuth to be on target with your satellite?

  You can use your hands to measure degrees of the sky. There is a
  method common in astronomy for measuring sky angles. Here?s how they
  describe it on One Minute Astronomer:

  "Your hands and fingers are a remarkably accurate (and convenient)
  measuring tool. When you hold your hand at arm?s length, you can
  estimate angles like this:

  Stretch your thumb and little finger as far from each other as you
  can. The span from tip to tip is about 25 degrees.

  Do the same with your index finger and little finger. The span is 15
  degrees.

  Clench your fist at arms length, and hold it with the back of your
  hand facing you. The width is 10 degrees.

  Hold your three middle fingers together; they span about 5 degrees

  The width of your little finger at arm?s length is 1 degree."

  http://oneminuteastronomer.com/860/measuring-sky/

  See also
  http://makezine.com/2016/09/16/measuring-tip-ruler/

  [ANS thanks oneminuteastronomer.com and make zone.com for the above
  information.]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
aa8em at amsat dot org

From ve2bmc at me.com  Sun Sep 18 02:45:06 2016
From: ve2bmc at me.com (Jimmy Blanchette)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 02:45:06 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R Update September 17
Message-ID: <ea07a3b5-6fda-4d52-b92c-061b94419cbb@me.com>

All,





K6R communicated the 2nd status update audio report. Please use the Dropbox link below in order to download the MP3 audio message:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zzwdww69l9437pl/K6R%20Report%202.mp3?dl=0

I have also made a video/audio recording of the last SO-50 pass. You can use the Dropbox link below in order to download the video file (.wmv format):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd7nyyoknv7qx8p/K6R%20SO50%2009-17.wmv?dl=0

Thanks again to David (KG5CCI) and Wyatt (AC0RA) for the excellent work on the Island!





73, Jimmy
KK6FAH

From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 06:29:33 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:59:33 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] FSK transmitter over India
Message-ID: <CALRS4Dx8O3MVbx24VwG59=ci8Ny8cca1i-mUiAKT756DCyWpCw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

We are students from IIT Bombay, we wnated to check are Groundstation link
for UHF frequencies. Does anyone know if there are any satellites
transmitting FSK signals at UHF band over India continuously. We are not
looking for anything that requires an uplink for transmitting back but
suggestions are welcome.

73,
Team Pratham..

From py2rn at arrl.net  Sun Sep 18 15:23:34 2016
From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 15:23:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
References: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009@mail.yahoo.com>

Is UKUBE-1 already in LOTW ? Cannot find it in the list.

73
Eduardo - PY2RN



From peter at m3php.com  Sun Sep 18 15:45:03 2016
From: peter at m3php.com (Peter Goodhall)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:45:03 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
In-Reply-To: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1241550798.423994.1474212214009@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFvUair2=qAsKTrkmuGJhnQBEEm=Spt=CeO3cfB=cnVwY4Y8bw@mail.gmail.com>

Use UKUBE1 for LOTW.

On 18 September 2016 at 16:23, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:
> Is UKUBE-1 already in LOTW ? Cannot find it in the list.
>
> 73
> Eduardo - PY2RN
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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-- 
Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL

From wouterweg at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 19:20:10 2016
From: wouterweg at gmail.com (Wouter Weggelaar)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 21:20:10 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 / FUNcube-1 Mode change
Message-ID: <CAKXf1rHB+tEnwo1SL7qub7YgykfgNq=14vMGd8xN8=kKY4htQA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Just to report that FUNcube-1, AO-73, is now back in autonomous
operation. The transponder will be active when the spacecraft is in
eclipse during the week.

73

Wouter PA3WEG

From nss at mwt.net  Sun Sep 18 21:51:21 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:51:21 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
Message-ID: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>

Anyone else here using this program?

I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
source.
When I do the program crashes.

Joe WB9SBD
-- 
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

From ben at gelbnet.com  Sun Sep 18 23:14:12 2016
From: ben at gelbnet.com (Ben Gelb)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:14:12 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pan/Tilt base controller firmware
Message-ID: <CAHbc55PxdVAXwoBWMLr553B6AmDz++GPt=5R3QS2Y=QidkFLsA@mail.gmail.com>

I just got back to putting my sat station back together over the past month
or so after a couple of years of inactivity.

One of the things I dusted off was my Az/El rotor and controller project,
that uses a pan/tilt base (the type used for BIG outdoor security cameras)
as a positioner for my sat antennas.

I built some microcontroller firmware for a cheapo eBay relay board that
emulates a GS232 controller, and steers the pan/tilt base. This was
basically done a couple years ago, but never got around to sharing the
code. Perhaps it could be useful in somebody else's project.

I've now put it online here: https://github.com/bgelb/sat_rotor.

73,
Ben N1VF

From py2rn at arrl.net  Sun Sep 18 23:37:02 2016
From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:37:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
In-Reply-To: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1241550798.423994.1474212214009@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <596229409.557985.1474241822592@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks all for the information.
TQSL is updated and has it OK, although my log software (DXKeeper) does not yet. I Will insert it manually for now, no problem.

73,
Ed ? PY2RN

      From: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net>
 To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:23 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
   
Is UKUBE-1 already in LOTW ? Cannot find it in the list.

73
Eduardo - PY2RN


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From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Sep 18 23:43:08 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 19:43:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
In-Reply-To: <596229409.557985.1474241822592@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1241550798.423994.1474212214009@mail.yahoo.com>
	<596229409.557985.1474241822592@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpf2SX24Qk0fTz+vjRKoS08hDHAbUwyNWpToPs9jwO12A@mail.gmail.com>

The DXKeeper satellite list is user editable: DefaultSatellites.txt in the
Databases folder.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:

> Thanks all for the information.
> TQSL is updated and has it OK, although my log software (DXKeeper) does
> not yet. I Will insert it manually for now, no problem.
>
> 73,
> Ed   PY2RN
>
>       From: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net>
>  To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>  Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:23 PM
>  Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
>
> Is UKUBE-1 already in LOTW ? Cannot find it in the list.
>
> 73
> Eduardo - PY2RN
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
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From saguaroastro at cox.net  Mon Sep 19 01:27:25 2016
From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:27:25 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
Message-ID: <nt04bc5qdiutbropwx58wix9.1474248445401@email.android.com>


    
But if it is not in the latest LotW tqsl file, it won't recognize it, correct?
I think that is wh as t the OP was getting at

Rick Tejera K7TEJSaguaroAstro at cox.net623-203-4121



-------- Original message --------
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> 
Date: 18/09/2016  16:43  (GMT-07:00) 
To: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> 
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ? 

The DXKeeper satellite list is user editable: DefaultSatellites.txt in the
Databases folder.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:

> Thanks all for the information.
> TQSL is updated and has it OK, although my log software (DXKeeper) does
> not yet. I Will insert it manually for now, no problem.
>
> 73,
> Ed?? PY2RN
>
>?????? From: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net>
>? To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>? Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:23 PM
>? Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
>
> Is UKUBE-1 already in LOTW ? Cannot find it in the list.
>
> 73
> Eduardo - PY2RN
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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>
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Sep 19 01:30:14 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 21:30:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
In-Reply-To: <nt04bc5qdiutbropwx58wix9.1474248445401@email.android.com>
References: <nt04bc5qdiutbropwx58wix9.1474248445401@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOozJ_1fDK8yDtd3z2P3bcStmD+VT2i4S69d9Syn9wwvSw@mail.gmail.com>

Correct, but UKUBE1 is in there.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sunday, September 18, 2016, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro at cox.net> wrote:

> But if it is not in the latest LotW tqsl file, it won't recognize it,
> correct?
>
> I think that is wh as t the OP was getting at
>
>
> *Rick Tejera K7TEJ*
> *SaguaroAstro at cox.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','SaguaroAstro at cox.net');>*
> *623-203-4121*
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n8hm at arrl.net');>>
> Date: 18/09/2016 16:43 (GMT-07:00)
> To: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','py2rn at arrl.net');>>
> Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','amsat-bb at amsat.org');>>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
>
> The DXKeeper satellite list is user editable: DefaultSatellites.txt in the
> Databases folder.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','py2rn at arrl.net');>> wrote:
>
> > Thanks all for the information.
> > TQSL is updated and has it OK, although my log software (DXKeeper) does
> > not yet. I Will insert it manually for now, no problem.
> >
> > 73,
> > Ed   PY2RN
> >
> >       From: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','py2rn at arrl.net');>>
> >  To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','amsat-bb at amsat.org');>>
> >  Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:23 PM
> >  Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
> >
> > Is UKUBE-1 already in LOTW ? Cannot find it in the list.
> >
> > 73
> > Eduardo - PY2RN
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
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From k.alexander at rogers.com  Mon Sep 19 01:48:38 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 21:48:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO90 on Monday Sept 19th
Message-ID: <edcbd1c1-babf-129a-65cd-2d4faa42a915@rogers.com>

Hi All,

I made it to New Liskeard, ON tonight after a fumbled start.  EO90 is a 
short drive north of Abitibi Canyon, ON which is a 4.5 hour drive from 
here.  I'll arrive on site tomorrow afternoon, which leaves little time 
for passes.  This is what I propose for Monday. Sorry, it isn't much!  
However, I'll spend Monday night in Smooth Rock Falls which puts me much 
closer for a fuller day on Tuesday.

  Monday UTC

  19.09.2016 SO-50        21:03 21:09    06   10  141 - 065
  19.09.2016  XW-2C        21:44 21:52    08   21  126 - 359
  19.09.2016  SO-50        22:40 22:51    11   61  207 - 044

  Tuesday  UTC

  20.09.2016 FO-29        13:41 13:50    09   11  071 - 356
  20.09.2016  XW-2A        14:04 14:09    05   11  333 - 252
  20.09.2016  FO-29        15:22 15:36    14   38  128 - 350
  20.09.2016  FO-29        17:06 17:21    15   50  185 - 342
  20.09.2016  FO-29        18:57 19:04    07   09  259 - 323
  20.09.2016  SO-50        21:26 21:36    10   22  174 - 051
  20.09.2016  XW-2F        21:32 21:39    07   17  114 - 002
**20.09.2016  XW-2C        23:06 23:14    08   45  183 - 341**
**20.09.2016  SO-50        23:06 23:17    11   66  229 - 041**

SO-50 and AO-85 are the "money birds" for me.  However, the ways the 
orbits are there isn't much opportunity to use them in the daytime.

73,

Ken
VE3HLS


From sasb.geo at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 23:29:13 2016
From: sasb.geo at yahoo.com (Eduardo Erlemann)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:29:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW (OK)
In-Reply-To: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1241550798.423994.1474212214009.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1241550798.423994.1474212214009@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <972742472.566135.1474241353508@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks all for the information.
TQSL is updated and has it, although my log software (DXKeeper) does not yet. Will insert manually, no problem.

73,
Ed ? PY2RN

      From: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net>
 To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:23 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
   
Is UKUBE-1 already in LOTW ? Cannot find it in the list.

73
Eduardo - PY2RN


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From wa4sca at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 11:28:07 2016
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 06:28:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKUBE-1 LOTW ?
In-Reply-To: <nt04bc5qdiutbropwx58wix9.1474248445401@email.android.com>
References: <nt04bc5qdiutbropwx58wix9.1474248445401@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <000001d21268$e5acc6d0$b1065470$@GMAIL.COM>

A quick way to see what is available in LOTW is to look here:

C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\TrustedQSL\config.xml

For safety, copy it somewhere else, and then open the file and search for <satellites> which will give 
you a list of the current ones recognized, and the name to use.

For instance: <satellite name="UKUBE1" startDate="2016-06-01">UKube-1</satellite>

I use this to update the DXKeeper list when needed.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA






From kk5do at arrl.net  Mon Sep 19 13:27:34 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 08:27:34 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Dxpeditions being uploaded
Message-ID: <95d58ecf-8cd7-0af5-8705-705bc54587c4@arrl.net>

For the past week or so, Randy, WI7P (ex N7SFI) has been uploading many 
of his old logs to LoTW and you might find credit for many of his grid 
operations. He was one of the first ones to work us from a grid other 
than his home grid with way more than 100 grids. One time he was 
maritime mobile, kayaking on a river. He also operated from the 2002 
Winter Olympics in Park City Utah.

73...bruce

-- 

Bruce Paige, KK5DO
                      
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016
   
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
           
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Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
               
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From wa4hfn at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 14:13:07 2016
From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (wa4hfn at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 14:13:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Got Frids award
In-Reply-To: <1710558815.672894.1474294277018.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1058324083.674270.1474294387308.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>

Congrats to Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV
Award # 17 on the Got Grids award
 Please go to www.starcommgroup.org for more about our free awards to satellite ops
Thank you
WA4HFN em55
Damon


From nss at mwt.net  Mon Sep 19 14:35:06 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 09:35:06 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <C05CA6BB9F6C4421924F54DD74836443@OsbornesPC>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
	<C05CA6BB9F6C4421924F54DD74836443@OsbornesPC>
Message-ID: <a19cdec9-04c4-67df-8c00-00f10fa4186c@mwt.net>

Hi Terry,

That's what I did, check out the video to see what happens.

https://vimeo.com/183318400

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/18/2016 11:47 PM, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> I just tried updating and it worked fine.
> This is what I used in the WebDataSources.txt file
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, 
> AMSAT-NasaBare.txt
>
> It may need the "AMSAT NasaBare.txt" part at the end.
> You can find the file at /SimpleSatData/SatData.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> 73,
> Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Joe
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:51 AM
> To: amsat-bb
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
>
> Anyone else here using this program?
>
> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
> source.
> When I do the program crashes.
>
> Joe WB9SBD


From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 14:59:09 2016
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:59:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <a19cdec9-04c4-67df-8c00-00f10fa4186c@mwt.net>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
	<C05CA6BB9F6C4421924F54DD74836443@OsbornesPC>
	<a19cdec9-04c4-67df-8c00-00f10fa4186c@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9Fd9Ln9p=K+o1J=3HnPMsS40yH-JsCz1+qniPM3KnU1B+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

 I just tried it with the following line in SimpleSatData > SatData >
WebDataSources.txt file and it works.

*http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
<http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt>,
AMSAT-NasaBare.txt*

*You should probably cilick Web Update after adding the new source list
before trying to use it.*


*Dave-KB1PVH*

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:

> Hi Terry,
>
> That's what I did, check out the video to see what happens.
>
> https://vimeo.com/183318400
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 9/18/2016 11:47 PM, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote:
>
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>> I just tried updating and it worked fine.
>> This is what I used in the WebDataSources.txt file
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt,
>> AMSAT-NasaBare.txt
>>
>> It may need the "AMSAT NasaBare.txt" part at the end.
>> You can find the file at /SimpleSatData/SatData.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> 73,
>> Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Joe
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:51 AM
>> To: amsat-bb
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
>>
>> Anyone else here using this program?
>>
>> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>> source.
>> When I do the program crashes.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From nss at mwt.net  Mon Sep 19 15:10:37 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:10:37 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9Fd9Ln9p=K+o1J=3HnPMsS40yH-JsCz1+qniPM3KnU1B+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
	<C05CA6BB9F6C4421924F54DD74836443@OsbornesPC>
	<a19cdec9-04c4-67df-8c00-00f10fa4186c@mwt.net>
	<CAEMY9Fd9Ln9p=K+o1J=3HnPMsS40yH-JsCz1+qniPM3KnU1B+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <239b622a-64eb-87c2-13b2-be14cad42d35@mwt.net>

Nope Same Error.

UG!

I LOVE this little program.  It ran for a few weeks just fine. But not 
any more and don't know why.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/19/2016 9:59 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> Joe,
>
>  I just tried it with the following line in SimpleSatData > SatData > 
> WebDataSources.txt file and it works.
>
> _http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, 
> AMSAT-NasaBare.txt_
> _
> _
> _You should probably cilick Web Update after adding the new source 
> list before trying to use it._
> _
> _
> _
> _
> _Dave-KB1PVH_
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net 
> <mailto:nss at mwt.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Terry,
>
>     That's what I did, check out the video to see what happens.
>
>     https://vimeo.com/183318400
>
>     Joe WB9SBD
>     Sig
>     The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>     Idle Tyme
>     Idle-Tyme.com
>     http://www.idle-tyme.com
>     On 9/18/2016 11:47 PM, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote:
>
>         Hi Joe,
>
>         I just tried updating and it worked fine.
>         This is what I used in the WebDataSources.txt file
>         http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>         <http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt>,
>         AMSAT-NasaBare.txt
>
>         It may need the "AMSAT NasaBare.txt" part at the end.
>         You can find the file at /SimpleSatData/SatData.
>
>         Hope this helps.
>
>         73,
>         Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
>
>         -----Original Message----- From: Joe
>         Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:51 AM
>         To: amsat-bb
>         Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
>
>         Anyone else here using this program?
>
>         I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>         http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>         <http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt>
>         source.
>         When I do the program crashes.
>
>         Joe WB9SBD
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
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>     makes this open forum available
>     to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>     Opinions expressed
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>     views of AMSAT-NA.
>     Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>     program!
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>
>


From nss at mwt.net  Mon Sep 19 15:19:17 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:19:17 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FciARYLSejQKHkAV0HjPmeNOeRCMAQfKt2U53e5F3ErvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
	<C05CA6BB9F6C4421924F54DD74836443@OsbornesPC>
	<a19cdec9-04c4-67df-8c00-00f10fa4186c@mwt.net>
	<CAEMY9Fd9Ln9p=K+o1J=3HnPMsS40yH-JsCz1+qniPM3KnU1B+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<239b622a-64eb-87c2-13b2-be14cad42d35@mwt.net>
	<CAEMY9FciARYLSejQKHkAV0HjPmeNOeRCMAQfKt2U53e5F3ErvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fd7ae6d9-6ad0-a10d-04c0-32ebde7870da@mwt.net>

UnBeliveable!
That did it so far. At Least it's running!
I had it running one time before, and about a week or so ago it would 
run untila sat became in range then that error would also pop up. But 
never ran as admin b4


UG!

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/19/2016 10:11 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
>
> Did you try right clicking on it and run as administrator?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>


From skristof at etczone.com  Mon Sep 19 15:35:47 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 11:35:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT store?
Message-ID: <6ba48154616fc9a66bdf488d545fcc77@etczone.com>

Does anyone know when the AMSAT "store" will be open? I would like to
check out the AMSAT preamp noted in previous postings. 

The website says the store will open "on or before September 15". Looks
like we missed that deadline. 

Steve AI9IN

From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Sep 19 15:58:43 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 11:58:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT store?
In-Reply-To: <6ba48154616fc9a66bdf488d545fcc77@etczone.com>
References: <6ba48154616fc9a66bdf488d545fcc77@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOq-e13yY-+CL+WawY7mr9j-Ryi=-_-4hZrRqKV2eHbuyg@mail.gmail.com>

Steve.

The documentation for the preamp is here:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/docs/preamp.pdf

If you'd like to order one, call Martha at (301) 822-4376 between 10am
and 6pm EDT. She can manually process credit card payments.

I don't have any update on the store other than the fact that the
upgrades required by PayPal's changes are somewhat more involved than
originally thought.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 11:35 AM,  <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know when the AMSAT "store" will be open? I would like to
> check out the AMSAT preamp noted in previous postings.
>
> The website says the store will open "on or before September 15". Looks
> like we missed that deadline.
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From dave at druidnetworks.com  Mon Sep 19 16:06:51 2016
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 11:06:51 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6R Logs and Thanks
In-Reply-To: <CANq+eyUPy=hXWTsTyhDy5K+U0p+nu-xcwvPiM36m+hAKSjrbnw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANq+eyXf6k6e8SQd0QSqbZiPV0112zuKkgCujDr9-o5G+B5pdQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyW6BORn2eGtSeYqh_pbGmpRvXqO++DYAPU5W0An3LsUHA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyWvjDmtESyJ9cQhUZr9s=wqG_anwa5NW5KgPuG9knYA3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyVTuveeNyXUbPVj6Z5sE6pYOf1rYDFQT7m_yJ26vSGobQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyWZO+VTxtdiNvV-P40NUpvR30jFP6jPGtQKJ+sQ44k9dg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyXVifVh38EGJ_g3SwF1_OFw66HoLXfxO8Dt75N4e0FJxg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyU8xVdNusnPPy1Q2SisncuExWMFnuRCEEGcBPpUcKtkRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyUaYyCjYN6TMpFeBE1ndfJtSnQjssHNMQt4PEx-JeBSFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyUfSK1g6_a38x_mEFYYDUoNMqJQH9boMb6XPCyFBxKaRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyUmB659psP7z12B7KTq=95AfQ5pd4v8vkjiA2+0u29d3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyUyB3cM84z-8LObBxO63VoMvxnR0LM-eA8xyr8Fx7_WiQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyUJjrMaVVyZWXedY_uvO4x_E28w2SginECqnL2JCWn+YQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyW=W4xc2dNy5gr46L_TjpKDHPQwriuF=sHJD6Pmq0RiaA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANq+eyUPy=hXWTsTyhDy5K+U0p+nu-xcwvPiM36m+hAKSjrbnw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANq+eyVjDZKQdc3+XA1AcWaoOHrjrv9Jp2+U=2WFaXCyO82-WA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

Wyatt and I are traveling today back to our respective QTHs, and im typing
on my phone, so I'll keep it brief. We just want to thank everyone that
worked us on the island. We have tons of video and a bunch of great
pictures that we'll share over the next few weeks, but it's going to take
some time to sift thru it all.

I've also gotten several 'am I in the log' emails already.. rest assured
I'll work on the logs before anything else and probably do a full list post
before uploads. I was really hoping to do nightly updates with a full
readout of the logs, but we worked so many stations it would have taken 30
minutes of transmit time to read them all, which would have eaten precious
amp hours... Chances are if you called us, we heard you. Never fear :-)

Finally I want to send a massive thanks to Jimmy KK6FAH/VE2BMC for his
local support and being on the repeater promptly each night even though we
weren't always on time. He was absolutely outstanding and a true testament
to the ham spirit. Also a huge thanks to W5PFG for the tremendous
logistical support both before the trip with lodging arrangements, and
airwave support during the trip...

Until the next epic adventure on the birds, 73 all.

-Dave, KG5CCI

From plaws0 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 16:38:57 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 11:38:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT store?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOq-e13yY-+CL+WawY7mr9j-Ryi=-_-4hZrRqKV2eHbuyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ba48154616fc9a66bdf488d545fcc77@etczone.com>
	<CABzOSOq-e13yY-+CL+WawY7mr9j-Ryi=-_-4hZrRqKV2eHbuyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ-tNLZ=qwPpcSH4sQCn+RPe-CS61ofDRbOWk84RD0x4CQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> I don't have any update on the store other than the fact that the
> upgrades required by PayPal's changes are somewhat more involved than
> originally thought.

Can the placeholder page be updated to remove the date?


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From jameshickox at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 19 17:29:40 2016
From: jameshickox at sbcglobal.net (jameshickox)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 12:29:40 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR tracking:  Suggestions Please
Message-ID: <bu0ux5gxu9q6an2w8hdpx224.1474306180607@email.android.com>

Hello All,
I am now living in an apartment for the next year or so, then moving into a RV full time on semi-retirement.
I plan to build my downlink out of a RTL-SDR dongle LNA and a couple of short (2ft long) yagi antennas. ?I would like to also perform automatic tracking via an Arduino and a couple of Easy driver cards and stepper motors?
So far, so good. ?What I am wondering about is there an integrated software program that will allow for reception of the downlink signal with doppler correction, control of the unlink frequency, and position control of the rotators.
The simple way would be to run separate software for each, but I would like to be able to do all of this in a single, compact unit.
Right now, I am thinking about Simon's SDR-RADIO V3, but I am having issues with my dongle staying stable on it for more than 2 seconds.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated?
73,James, AA5AO?


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 17:34:47 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 12:34:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NJ7H/p upcoming FO-29 at 17:59 UTC
Message-ID: <CAPovOwfd7grTZguRs1cj_z1FZ9X0qXSAa7QqgTkdmxV6eHNrRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Gabriel, NJ7H, plans to activate Mount Rushmore National Park (NPOTA
NM19) in grid DN83 on the upcoming FO-29 pass today at 17:59 UTC.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From kb2m at arrl.net  Mon Sep 19 17:39:20 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:39:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Dxpeditions being uploaded
In-Reply-To: <95d58ecf-8cd7-0af5-8705-705bc54587c4@arrl.net>
References: <95d58ecf-8cd7-0af5-8705-705bc54587c4@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <058001d2129c$c146da90$43d48fb0$@net>

I have over 15000 sat contacts that aren't in LoTW format. I also used to
work sat's a lot when I traveled, and fished offshore. But Randy was the
best. Bruce didn't mention he is the only sat op I know of who worked sat
WAS in reverse. Someday I might also find the time to fix and upload all of
my pre LoTW sat contacts, good show Randy......

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:28 AM
To: amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Dxpeditions being uploaded

For the past week or so, Randy, WI7P (ex N7SFI) has been uploading many of
his old logs to LoTW and you might find credit for many of his grid
operations. He was one of the first ones to work us from a grid other than
his home grid with way more than 100 grids. One time he was maritime mobile,
kayaking on a river. He also operated from the 2002 Winter Olympics in Park
City Utah.

73...bruce

-- 

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From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 18:47:42 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:47:42 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Dxpeditions being uploaded
In-Reply-To: <058001d2129c$c146da90$43d48fb0$@net>
References: <95d58ecf-8cd7-0af5-8705-705bc54587c4@arrl.net>
	<058001d2129c$c146da90$43d48fb0$@net>
Message-ID: <DC87E687-B120-49AB-A46D-098315F560BA@comcast.net>

Jeff, if the log pages are in half-way readable writing, you could scan them into your computer using an OCR application, then export to CSV.  I've done that with my log pages using LibreOffice on my Ubuntu Linux work station.

73's
Dave N4CVX


Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:39, Jeff Griffin <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> I have over 15000 sat contacts that aren't in LoTW format. I also used to
> work sat's a lot when I traveled, and fished offshore. But Randy was the
> best. Bruce didn't mention he is the only sat op I know of who worked sat
> WAS in reverse. Someday I might also find the time to fix and upload all of
> my pre LoTW sat contacts, good show Randy......
> 
> 73 Jeff kb2m
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:28 AM
> To: amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Dxpeditions being uploaded
> 
> For the past week or so, Randy, WI7P (ex N7SFI) has been uploading many of
> his old logs to LoTW and you might find credit for many of his grid
> operations. He was one of the first ones to work us from a grid other than
> his home grid with way more than 100 grids. One time he was maritime mobile,
> kayaking on a river. He also operated from the 2002 Winter Olympics in Park
> City Utah.
> 
> 73...bruce
> 
> -- 
> 
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> 
> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
> AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016
> 
> ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
> 
> Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live
> streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at
> http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
> 
> Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org
> 
> AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
> 
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Sep 19 20:00:59 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 16:00:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NJ7H Wind Cave National Park (NP55) NPOTA Activation -
	AO-7 at 20:26 UTC.
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoYsyHbK-3KYDauAn_f-HUCTc6ery+vgq9SquZWm_qFsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Gabriel, NJ7H, will activate Wind Cave National Park (NP55)  in grid DN83
on the upcoming AO-7 pass around 20:26 UTC. He'll be around 145.938 MHz at
the satellite.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From kb2m at arrl.net  Mon Sep 19 21:50:31 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:50:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb]  LoTW Dxpeditions being uploaded
Message-ID: <063201d212bf$d8967c00$89c37400$@net>

I have over 15,000 sat contacts that aren't in LoTW format. I also used to
work sat's a lot when I traveled, and fished offshore. But Randy was the
best. Bruce didn't mention he is the only sat op I know of who worked sat
WAS in reverse. Someday I might also find the time to fix and upload all of
my pre LoTW sat contacts, good show Randy......

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:28 AM
To: amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Dxpeditions being uploaded

For the past week or so, Randy, WI7P (ex N7SFI) has been uploading many of
his old logs to LoTW and you might find credit for many of his grid
operations. He was one of the first ones to work us from a grid other than
his home grid with way more than 100 grids. One time he was maritime mobile,
kayaking on a river. He also operated from the 2002 Winter Olympics in Park
City Utah.

73...bruce

-- 

Bruce Paige, KK5DO
                      
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016
   
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
           
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live
streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at
http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
               
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AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat

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From k2gog at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 19 19:22:32 2016
From: k2gog at yahoo.com (Steve Bossert)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:22:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR tracking:  Suggestions Please
In-Reply-To: <bu0ux5gxu9q6an2w8hdpx224.1474306180607@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <391628.20322.bm@smtp105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Good starting point may be to have a look at the ThumbSat project. When I can find the time, I plan to build one.

More here:  www.thumbsat.com 


? Original Message ?
From: jameshickox at sbcglobal.net
Sent: September 19, 2016 1:31 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR tracking: Suggestions Please

Hello All,
I am now living in an apartment for the next year or so, then moving into a RV full time on semi-retirement.
I plan to build my downlink out of a RTL-SDR dongle LNA and a couple of short (2ft long) yagi antennas. ?I would like to also perform automatic tracking via an Arduino and a couple of Easy driver cards and stepper motors?
So far, so good. ?What I am wondering about is there an integrated software program that will allow for reception of the downlink signal with doppler correction, control of the unlink frequency, and position control of the rotators.
The simple way would be to run separate software for each, but I would like to be able to do all of this in a single, compact unit.
Right now, I am thinking about Simon's SDR-RADIO V3, but I am having issues with my dongle staying stable on it for more than 2 seconds.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated?
73,James, AA5AO?

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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From jc-smith at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 19:34:21 2016
From: jc-smith at comcast.net (JC Smith)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 12:34:21 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS:  NIB Yaesu G5600B Az/El rotator combo
Message-ID: <067401d212ac$d27fa020$777ee060$@net>

Yaesu G5600B Az/El rotator combo.  NIB, $600

New in unopened box.  The G-5600B is a heavy-duty version of the G-5400B.
It has 51 ft-lbs of rotation torque and 289 ft-lbs of braking torque vs. 44
& 145 ft-lbs for the 5400.  Elev rotators are the same.  I had a 5400 on a
US Towers MA-550MDP rotating tower and it turned a HY gain TH-3 Mk III
tribander on top and a pair of the largest M2 sat antennas (2M22CX & 435 40
CX) on the El rotor at the top of the first section.  Worked for years with
no problems at all.  I bought the 5600 "just in case" but never needed it.
Price includes shipping anywhere in the lower 48.

 


From jc-smith at comcast.net  Mon Sep 19 22:07:53 2016
From: jc-smith at comcast.net (JC Smith)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:07:53 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: NIB Yaesu G5600B Az/El rotator combo.  $600
Message-ID: <06a801d212c2$458d76e0$d0a864a0$@net>

I hope it's still OK to post stuff for sale in the BB.  Please let me know
if it is not.

  

Yaesu G5600B Az/El rotator combo.  NIB, $600

New in unopened box.  The G-5600B is a heavy-duty version of the G-5400B.
It has 51 ft-lbs of rotation torque and 289 ft-lbs of braking torque vs. 44
& 145 ft-lbs for the 5400.  Elev rotators are the same.  I had a 5400 on a
US Towers MA-550MDP rotating tower and it turned a HY gain TH-3 Mk III
tribander on top and a pair of the largest M2 sat antennas (2M22CX & 435
40CX) on the El rotor at the top of the first section.  I bought the 5600
"just in case" but turns out I never needed it, no problems at all.  Price
includes shipping anywhere in the lower 48.

Contact: K0HPS at AMSAT.ORG

 

 


From kellyrkeeton at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 01:18:18 2016
From: kellyrkeeton at gmail.com (Kelly Keeton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 18:18:18 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] tower placement input
Message-ID: <CAJZv1Lv6=bYK5O-3xoAnSEJTdmPtYJdF0TJ2og-Dv+3ttLWjVw@mail.gmail.com>

I have a existing 50' HF tower with 40m on up.

I am now trying to place a 33' tower for VHF on up. the tower will have a
10' VHF pair of antennas as well as a pair of UHF antennas on it (for
satellite EME and other goofing around)

how close is too close? running the higher quality coax needed will be
harder the farther from the shack I get due to physical building issues.
Also the closer I can have it to another building the more helpful it will
be to my ongoing antenna work. this puts me at a location about 12' from
the existing HF tower.

what are the pro's and cons of locating a 30' VHF with a 10' array on it so
close to the HF antenna array?
where should I locate the tower ideally?
I have a 1/4 acre lot so I dont have unlimited room .. otherwise its a no
brainier...

From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 01:36:45 2016
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:36:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] tower placement input
In-Reply-To: <CAJZv1Lv6=bYK5O-3xoAnSEJTdmPtYJdF0TJ2og-Dv+3ttLWjVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJZv1Lv6=bYK5O-3xoAnSEJTdmPtYJdF0TJ2og-Dv+3ttLWjVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJUhCTNTyygBwwaJcywSb5VhnwxVYk5CrBENaYdTzFuD4-VWtg@mail.gmail.com>

1: Talk to (city/county) zoning.
2: HOA?

Mine is a 20' Rohn 25, guyed tilt over.

Old pic: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/7584223098/in/dateposted/

Newer pic: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/25430099854/in/dateposted/

If It were me, I'd consider what would happen if it fell down in the
worst possible way. I.E. on something expensive.

.25 acre is small. Have .5 and it's not much bigger.

I put up solar and the neighbors were out with pitchforks and torches.

Norm n3ykf

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a existing 50' HF tower with 40m on up.
>
> I am now trying to place a 33' tower for VHF on up. the tower will have a
> 10' VHF pair of antennas as well as a pair of UHF antennas on it (for
> satellite EME and other goofing around)
>
> how close is too close? running the higher quality coax needed will be
> harder the farther from the shack I get due to physical building issues.
> Also the closer I can have it to another building the more helpful it will
> be to my ongoing antenna work. this puts me at a location about 12' from
> the existing HF tower.
>
> what are the pro's and cons of locating a 30' VHF with a 10' array on it so
> close to the HF antenna array?
> where should I locate the tower ideally?
> I have a 1/4 acre lot so I dont have unlimited room .. otherwise its a no
> brainier...
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From kellyrkeeton at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 01:56:51 2016
From: kellyrkeeton at gmail.com (Kelly Keeton)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 18:56:51 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] tower placement input
In-Reply-To: <CAJUhCTNTyygBwwaJcywSb5VhnwxVYk5CrBENaYdTzFuD4-VWtg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJZv1Lv6=bYK5O-3xoAnSEJTdmPtYJdF0TJ2og-Dv+3ttLWjVw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTNTyygBwwaJcywSb5VhnwxVYk5CrBENaYdTzFuD4-VWtg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EC5BA392-F3DB-4B3C-8B23-376933EE884F@gmail.com>

towers fall over?! Hehe 

Nice looking setup on the new photo there.  

Thanks for feedback yea no issues with zoning or HOA looking for technical assistance in placement :) 

Sent from a mobile device. 

> On Sep 19, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 1: Talk to (city/county) zoning.
> 2: HOA?
> 
> Mine is a 20' Rohn 25, guyed tilt over.
> 
> Old pic: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/7584223098/in/dateposted/
> 
> Newer pic: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/25430099854/in/dateposted/
> 
> If It were me, I'd consider what would happen if it fell down in the
> worst possible way. I.E. on something expensive.
> 
> .25 acre is small. Have .5 and it's not much bigger.
> 
> I put up solar and the neighbors were out with pitchforks and torches.
> 
> Norm n3ykf
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a existing 50' HF tower with 40m on up.
>> 
>> I am now trying to place a 33' tower for VHF on up. the tower will have a
>> 10' VHF pair of antennas as well as a pair of UHF antennas on it (for
>> satellite EME and other goofing around)
>> 
>> how close is too close? running the higher quality coax needed will be
>> harder the farther from the shack I get due to physical building issues.
>> Also the closer I can have it to another building the more helpful it will
>> be to my ongoing antenna work. this puts me at a location about 12' from
>> the existing HF tower.
>> 
>> what are the pro's and cons of locating a 30' VHF with a 10' array on it so
>> close to the HF antenna array?
>> where should I locate the tower ideally?
>> I have a 1/4 acre lot so I dont have unlimited room .. otherwise its a no
>> brainier...
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Tue Sep 20 02:53:38 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 22:53:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-20 02:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <1ae502.6511a62a.4511feb2@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-20  02:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Yamanashi Gakuin J. H. School, Kofu, Japan, direct via  8J1YGJH (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The  scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS 
Contact is a go for: Sat  2016-10-01 08:11:36 UTC 31 deg  (***)


****************************************************************************
**
Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with  118

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-20 02:30 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1084. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1049. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-09-16 06:00 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From john at papays.com  Tue Sep 20 15:43:39 2016
From: john at papays.com (John Papay)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:43:39 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VE3HLS/p EO80 plans
Message-ID: <20160920161500.45AAD9452@lansing182.amsat.org>

Ken, VE3HLS, showed up on FO-29 this morning on the 1520z pass.
I found him way up the band at 435882.  He had a decent signal and
went qrt at 1533z.  If you called him on his frequency, he responded.

Ken said that he would stay in EO80 today and tomorrow (Tuesday and
Wednesday).  The road to EO90 was washed out due to heavy rain so
no EO90 operation is expected.  He said he would concentrate on
FO-29 and SO-50 passes today but it might pay to look on the other
birds just in case.

Good Luck!
73,
John K8YSE


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From gp_ab5r at outlook.com  Tue Sep 20 16:52:48 2016
From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:52:48 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Off Topic but Interesting
Message-ID: <MWHPR11MB1952E75C132B01D430BCCE3FD0F70@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/09/20/water-powered-cubesat-satellite-shoots-for-moon.html

[http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2016/09/20/water-powered-cubesat-satellite-shoots-for-moon/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.png/0/0/1474311058417.png?ve=1]<http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/09/20/water-powered-cubesat-satellite-shoots-for-moon.html>

Water-powered Cubesat Satellite Shoots For The Moon<http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/09/20/water-powered-cubesat-satellite-shoots-for-moon.html>
www.foxnews.com
A cereal box-size satellite, fueled by water power, is in the running for the first tiny satellite to orbit the moon.




From k.alexander at rogers.com  Tue Sep 20 23:40:54 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (k.alexander)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 19:40:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VE3HLS EO80 Schedule for Wednesday
Message-ID: <7ky0vfkkgt787cje6qri3gka.1474414854898@email.android.com>

To get to EO90 you drive across the top of a hydro dam at Abitibi Canyon, then it's about 25 km along a dirt road. ?Yesterday, I crossed the dam unmolested except for plenty of strange looks. ?Cars don't travel here. ?The road is quite good but very muddy for the first few km.
Last night we had lots of rain and I was stopped at the dam and advised it would be unwise to go further because a few areas were washed out.
So, I turned around, checked my map and GPS and headed for EO80, about 40 km away. ?Good move! ?My site in EO80 is a cleared area about 500m around. ?Perfect! ?I handed out EO80 QSOs to 25 lucky contestants.
Wednesday looks like this:1206 ? XW-2C1312 ? AO-851327 ? XW-2A1341 ? XW-2C1426 ? FO-291609 ? FO-291755 ? FO-29
Busy schedule and the best part is I'll be back at the hotel in time for Happy Hour out on the Lido Deck.
I was so encouraged by today's success that I'm going to make another attempt at EO90 on Thursday Morning. ?Schedule as follows:
1157 ? AO-851254 ? XW-2A1338 ? AO-851427 ? XW-2A1515 ? FO-291659 ? FO-29
Then it's off to Cochrane to catch the Polar Bear Express to Moosonee for 4 days in EO91.
NOTE: ?I have never worked an XW-2x satellite before. ?Bear with me!
73,
KenVE3HLS?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

From skristof at etczone.com  Tue Sep 20 23:47:30 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 19:47:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Off Topic but Interesting
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB1952E75C132B01D430BCCE3FD0F70@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MWHPR11MB1952E75C132B01D430BCCE3FD0F70@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <7f62b90206d7f67093b6e9c78c70ca89@etczone.com>

Cut and paste from one of the articles: "The tournament cubesat itself
consists of two L-shaped pieces that would split apart, and each piece
would head for the moon's atmosphere." 

How much atmosphere are they hoping for? I hope they are not planning on
using fins and parachutes for stabilization. I gotta think this is a
media screw-up. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-09-20 12:52, Gerald Payton wrote:

> http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/09/20/water-powered-cubesat-satellite-shoots-for-moon.html
> 
> [http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/science/2016/09/20/water-powered-cubesat-satellite-shoots-for-moon/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.png/0/0/1474311058417.png?ve=1]<http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/09/20/water-powered-cubesat-satellite-shoots-for-moon.html>
> 
> Water-powered Cubesat Satellite Shoots For The Moon<http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/09/20/water-powered-cubesat-satellite-shoots-for-moon.html>
> www.foxnews.com [1]
> A cereal box-size satellite, fueled by water power, is in the running for the first tiny satellite to orbit the moon.
> 
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From n0jy at amsat.org  Wed Sep 21 05:03:50 2016
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 00:03:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] IARP for Symposium
Message-ID: <a068bde2-6ff2-5ac7-f02a-aae13c446f81@amsat.org>

I just prepared and mailed my IARP so I can operate from the ship at
Symposium.

Hey, did you know that you can use the U.S Department of State website
to crop your own photo to use with the application?
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/photos/photos.html
Look on the right side of the page under "Already Have a Photo?"
It lets you pick a photo you have on your PC, and save it back to your
PC.  You can then print it to send with the application.
(Of course, you'll have to figure out how to get it 1.5 x 1.5 inches, I
used Word.)

73

-- 
Jerry Buxton, N?JY


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Wed Sep 21 10:49:40 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:49:40 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
Message-ID: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>

Hello

A while back I had a Linux computer that would listen for the ISS then start sending beacons 

Trying to cut back on wildly transmitting all day and night

Has anyone used the raspberry Pi ? 

It lends itself nicely to such a beacon project 

Listen then beacon for ten minutes

Andrew

-----------------------------
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Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
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From w5pfg at amsat.org  Wed Sep 21 12:30:06 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 07:30:06 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>

Andrew,

What is the purpose of automatically beaconing when the ISS is in range?

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 9/21/2016 05:49, Andrew Rich wrote:
> Hello
>
> A while back I had a Linux computer that would listen for the ISS then start sending beacons
>
> Trying to cut back on wildly transmitting all day and night
>
> Has anyone used the raspberry Pi ?
>
> It lends itself nicely to such a beacon project
>
> Listen then beacon for ten minutes
>
> Andrew
>
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net
> m 0419 738 223
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From skristof at etczone.com  Wed Sep 21 15:24:22 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:24:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>

Fewer unattended beacons would be very welcome by those of us attempting
to make QSOs via ISS packet. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-09-21 08:30, Clayton W5PFG wrote:

> Andrew,
> 
> What is the purpose of automatically beaconing when the ISS is in range?
> 
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
> 
> On 9/21/2016 05:49, Andrew Rich wrote: 
> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> A while back I had a Linux computer that would listen for the ISS then start sending beacons
>> 
>> Trying to cut back on wildly transmitting all day and night
>> 
>> Has anyone used the raspberry Pi ?
>> 
>> It lends itself nicely to such a beacon project
>> 
>> Listen then beacon for ten minutes
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> -----------------------------
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Andrew Rich
>> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> w www.tech-software.net [1]
>> m 0419 738 223
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 15:36:14 2016
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:36:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/P NPOTA on Monday, September 26
Message-ID: <CAPovOwdiO5wifjTAoWng0tO5fKpt0U-RZeaj9n-JGX+aJ-Sgdg@mail.gmail.com>

I'll operate from the Blackstone River Valley National Historical Park
(NPOTA HP49) on Monday, September 26 in grid FN42.


All times given are in UTC

SO-50    20:36 - 20:48
XW-2F    21:46 - 21:53
XW-2C    21:53 - 21:59
SO-50    22:19 - 22:28 (possibly)

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 22:14:27 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:14:27 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Bodie Island Lighthouse NPOTA Satellite
	Activation
Message-ID: <CALn0fKP7t_TbGa3CxL7p6Y5Kq_Pt3ZnnoXVmUH9dw1FNFKqQ=g@mail.gmail.com>

https://youtu.be/5A23fPuv0cU

I made ten contacts through satellite SO-50 to successfully activate
this park for the National Parks on The Air (NPOTA) contest. Bodie
Island (pronounced ?body?) is on the Cape Hatteras National Seashore
which is the actual national park (not the lighthouse, which is just
in it). The park is on the Outer Banks barrier islands of North
Carolina. There are several lighthouses on the Outer Banks and all of
them are beautiful.

Stations contacted:

01 KO4MA EL88
02 N8HM/W3ZM FM18
03 WA5KBH
04 W5CBF EM30
05 W4FS FM06
06 K5ND EM12
07 KC9ELU EM79
08 KI4RO EM88
09 N8RO EM00
10 CY9C FN97

I technically made 11 contacts as Paul, N8HM, also used the AMSAT-NA
club call, W3ZM, at the end of our contact. (Go listen again, he?s
sneaky with it ;-) )


73, John Brier KG4AKV

From rjlawn at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 00:55:36 2016
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:55:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Review of HTs for sat use
Message-ID: <CADQmrTEMqvjaq6S+5kNV0s7YBWV7ThXN22DC71PjGJ7CJnsb-g@mail.gmail.com>

Do any of you recall where in the last 6 months or so there was an article
by a ham who reviewed all of the current HTs, especially the cheap ones,
for use for satellite communication? I know I'm not dreaming this and I'm
soon to do a presentation for our local club and wanted to refer to this
article and recommendations. Hopefully one of you can jog my ever fading
memory.
Rick, W2JAZ


-- 
Sent from Gmail Mobile

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Sep 22 01:23:38 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:23:38 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Review of HTs for sat use
In-Reply-To: <CADQmrTEMqvjaq6S+5kNV0s7YBWV7ThXN22DC71PjGJ7CJnsb-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTEMqvjaq6S+5kNV0s7YBWV7ThXN22DC71PjGJ7CJnsb-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcW5iW+F8+t+iVvcgRD0gb1ZVGZLboMs3H2Kz5xSwe1Qg@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,

I didn't review *all* HTs that would work for satellite communication,
but did talk about 4 of the Chinese-made dual-band HTs that could
work AO-85 (and the other upcoming Fox-1 U/V FM satellites)
full-duplex, with varying levels of success. That article appeared in
the March/April 2016 issue of the AMSAT Journal. If you missed that
issue, you can see my article in a PDF at:

http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/

Look in the Articles folder, and go to the last article in that
folder (file name starts with "Working_AO85").

As with other HTs or low-power stations, you will find more success
working higher AO-85 passes, and not necessarily trying to work those
higher passes near AOS or LOS. With that in mind, I'm regularly
working AO-85 full-duplex with a Wouxun KG-UV9D and Elk log periodic
either in my back yard or in my driveway. I make my contacts when
the satellite is up at least 20 to 25 degrees above the horizon.

Other than that, the situation with HTs and satellites is still the
same as before. Only one HT in current production - Kenwood TH-D72A -
will work all V/U and U/V FM satellites full-duplex. There are many
older HTs that have been out of production a long time that will
do that. The 4 Chinese-made HTs I mention in the article are able to
work AO-85 and other U/V FM satellites full-duplex, but not the
V/U satellites like SO-50 or LilacSat-2.

If you need more information beyond that article, please feel free
to e-mail me directly. Good luck, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK



On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Do any of you recall where in the last 6 months or so there was an article
> by a ham who reviewed all of the current HTs, especially the cheap ones,
> for use for satellite communication? I know I'm not dreaming this and I'm
> soon to do a presentation for our local club and wanted to refer to this
> article and recommendations. Hopefully one of you can jog my ever fading
> memory.
> Rick, W2JAZ
>
>
> --
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From ka2rvo at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 01:46:07 2016
From: ka2rvo at gmail.com (James Austin)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:46:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Review of HTs for sat use
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUcW5iW+F8+t+iVvcgRD0gb1ZVGZLboMs3H2Kz5xSwe1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTEMqvjaq6S+5kNV0s7YBWV7ThXN22DC71PjGJ7CJnsb-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUcW5iW+F8+t+iVvcgRD0gb1ZVGZLboMs3H2Kz5xSwe1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFhiEUHMm-kNGGfXQTz2Zv=KiZWudFDSVOZydd_Vb+jQX+GH6w@mail.gmail.com>

What was the problem with the Chinese HT's working full duplex in the V/U
modes. I don't recall that being mentioned in the article.

Jim/KA2RVO

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> I didn't review *all* HTs that would work for satellite communication,
> but did talk about 4 of the Chinese-made dual-band HTs that could
> work AO-85 (and the other upcoming Fox-1 U/V FM satellites)
> full-duplex, with varying levels of success. That article appeared in
> the March/April 2016 issue of the AMSAT Journal. If you missed that
> issue, you can see my article in a PDF at:
>
> http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/
>
> Look in the Articles folder, and go to the last article in that
> folder (file name starts with "Working_AO85").
>
> As with other HTs or low-power stations, you will find more success
> working higher AO-85 passes, and not necessarily trying to work those
> higher passes near AOS or LOS. With that in mind, I'm regularly
> working AO-85 full-duplex with a Wouxun KG-UV9D and Elk log periodic
> either in my back yard or in my driveway. I make my contacts when
> the satellite is up at least 20 to 25 degrees above the horizon.
>
> Other than that, the situation with HTs and satellites is still the
> same as before. Only one HT in current production - Kenwood TH-D72A -
> will work all V/U and U/V FM satellites full-duplex. There are many
> older HTs that have been out of production a long time that will
> do that. The 4 Chinese-made HTs I mention in the article are able to
> work AO-85 and other U/V FM satellites full-duplex, but not the
> V/U satellites like SO-50 or LilacSat-2.
>
> If you need more information beyond that article, please feel free
> to e-mail me directly. Good luck, and 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do any of you recall where in the last 6 months or so there was an
> article
> > by a ham who reviewed all of the current HTs, especially the cheap ones,
> > for use for satellite communication? I know I'm not dreaming this and I'm
> > soon to do a presentation for our local club and wanted to refer to this
> > article and recommendations. Hopefully one of you can jog my ever fading
> > memory.
> > Rick, W2JAZ
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from Gmail Mobile
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Sep 22 02:01:28 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 02:01:28 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Review of HTs for sat use
In-Reply-To: <CAFhiEUHMm-kNGGfXQTz2Zv=KiZWudFDSVOZydd_Vb+jQX+GH6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTEMqvjaq6S+5kNV0s7YBWV7ThXN22DC71PjGJ7CJnsb-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUcW5iW+F8+t+iVvcgRD0gb1ZVGZLboMs3H2Kz5xSwe1Qg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFhiEUHMm-kNGGfXQTz2Zv=KiZWudFDSVOZydd_Vb+jQX+GH6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUckb+QoHDJ0z4o__Eh5s_PzO_yTciKf6wj67QBiwXZLOw@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Looking over the article, I now see that I didn't elaborate on
why none of these HTs were suitable for full-duplex operation on
V/U FM satellites like SO-50 and LilacSat-2. It's a simple reason,
unfortunately: the 2m transmitter in these radios desenses the 70cm
receiver, when trying to hear the weak downlinks from our satellites.
These radios are fine for full-duplex when transmitting on 2m, if the
70cm signal is much stronger than our satellite downlinks. Unfortunately,
that's not what we have at this time. It doesn't matter which antenna
you use with these radios, and whether or not you have diplexers
connected to the HT.

Using another HT with one of the Chinese-made HTs I mention in
the article would be one way to have a full-duplex station to work
V/U FM satellites like our current SO-50 and (when it is active)
LilacSat-2. SO-50's downlink in particular is a tough one for these
radios, as the 436.795 MHz (+/-) frequency is only a few hundred
kHz above the 3rd harmonic of the 145.850 MHz uplink. Many 2m/70cm
FM mobile transceivers can handle this, but only TH-D72A in terms of
HTs in current (for now) production.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK




On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:46 AM, James Austin <ka2rvo at gmail.com> wrote:

> What was the problem with the Chinese HT's working full duplex in the V/U
> modes. I don't recall that being mentioned in the article.
>
> Jim/KA2RVO
>
>

From mikesprenger at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 09:49:45 2016
From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 05:49:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>

Hi Andrew

It's great to see your interest in QSOs via the ISS. 

Maybe Just let your analog computer (brain) do the sending only when you're at the keyboard so that the (limited) channel is (more) clear when you're not at the computer.

I have used Dire Wolf as a software TNC, works fine.  Test and prep your station when you're at the keyboard then disable transmission until you return.  Unattended beacons when the ground stations can't hear each other causes enough uplink contention already, so a minimalist approach makes things go well. 

Think you may find Steve and Clayton eager to enjoy a QSO with you.  

Then again, you may tell us you are thinking of doing  something beyond just getting unattended packets through the ISS ? (As Clayton also inquires). Something else you're thinking?

Most of all, have Fun !!!

Thanks,
Mike
W4UOO

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 11:24 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> 
> Fewer unattended beacons would be very welcome by those of us attempting
> to make QSOs via ISS packet. 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> 
>> On 2016-09-21 08:30, Clayton W5PFG wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> 
>> What is the purpose of automatically beaconing when the ISS is in range?
>> 
>> 73
>> Clayton
>> W5PFG
>> 
>>> On 9/21/2016 05:49, Andrew Rich wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> A while back I had a Linux computer that would listen for the ISS then start sending beacons
>>> 
>>> Trying to cut back on wildly transmitting all day and night
>>> 
>>> Has anyone used the raspberry Pi ?
>>> 
>>> It lends itself nicely to such a beacon project
>>> 
>>> Listen then beacon for ten minutes
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> -----------------------------
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Andrew Rich
>>> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>> w www.tech-software.net [1]
>>> m 0419 738 223
>>> _______________________________________________
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Thu Sep 22 10:22:12 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 20:22:12 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>

There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here

No issues with traffic 

Andrew

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> On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:49, Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew
> 
> It's great to see your interest in QSOs via the ISS. 
> 
> Maybe Just let your analog computer (brain) do the sending only when you're at the keyboard so that the (limited) channel is (more) clear when you're not at the computer.
> 
> I have used Dire Wolf as a software TNC, works fine.  Test and prep your station when you're at the keyboard then disable transmission until you return.  Unattended beacons when the ground stations can't hear each other causes enough uplink contention already, so a minimalist approach makes things go well. 
> 
> Think you may find Steve and Clayton eager to enjoy a QSO with you.  
> 
> Then again, you may tell us you are thinking of doing  something beyond just getting unattended packets through the ISS ? (As Clayton also inquires). Something else you're thinking?
> 
> Most of all, have Fun !!!
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> W4UOO
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 11:24 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
>> 
>> Fewer unattended beacons would be very welcome by those of us attempting
>> to make QSOs via ISS packet. 
>> 
>> Steve AI9IN
>> 
>>> On 2016-09-21 08:30, Clayton W5PFG wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>> 
>>> What is the purpose of automatically beaconing when the ISS is in range?
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Clayton
>>> W5PFG
>>> 
>>>> On 9/21/2016 05:49, Andrew Rich wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello
>>>> 
>>>> A while back I had a Linux computer that would listen for the ISS then start sending beacons
>>>> 
>>>> Trying to cut back on wildly transmitting all day and night
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone used the raspberry Pi ?
>>>> 
>>>> It lends itself nicely to such a beacon project
>>>> 
>>>> Listen then beacon for ten minutes
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 
>>>> -----------------------------
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Thu Sep 22 14:32:47 2016
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 09:32:47 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>

On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>
> No issues with traffic

The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up 
potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the 
ISS. Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be 
trying to make that elusive contact.

--- Zach
N0ZGO


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Thu Sep 22 14:43:35 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:43:35 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <075909CA-4726-4369-9909-ACE166E69FED@tech-software.net>

Packet and voice different freq 

-----------------------------
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> On 23 Sep 2016, at 00:32, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>> 
>> No issues with traffic
> 
> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS. Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to make that elusive contact.
> 
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> 
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From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Sep 22 14:48:06 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:48:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <075909CA-4726-4369-9909-ACE166E69FED@tech-software.net>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<075909CA-4726-4369-9909-ACE166E69FED@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <db2bb12bff6ef083b6ed3d8dc4139a4a@etczone.com>

Packet can be, and often is, used for QSOs, especially through the ISS. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-09-22 10:43, Andrew Rich wrote:

> Packet and voice different freq 
> 
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net [1]
> m 0419 738 223
> 
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 00:32, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> 
> No issues with traffic 
> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS. Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to make that elusive contact.
> 
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> 
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Thu Sep 22 14:53:16 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:53:16 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <db2bb12bff6ef083b6ed3d8dc4139a4a@etczone.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<075909CA-4726-4369-9909-ACE166E69FED@tech-software.net>
	<db2bb12bff6ef083b6ed3d8dc4139a4a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <3AC3A1B2-D9C4-4193-9EAF-32173EA1C7DD@tech-software.net>

Trust me guys in Australia here it's just me and the bird 

Andrew

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> On 23 Sep 2016, at 00:48, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> 
> Packet can be, and often is, used for QSOs, especially through the ISS. 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> 
>> On 2016-09-22 10:43, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> 
>> Packet and voice different freq 
>> 
>> -----------------------------
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Andrew Rich
>> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> w www.tech-software.net [1]
>> m 0419 738 223
>> 
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 00:32, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>> 
>> No issues with traffic 
>> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS. Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to make that elusive contact.
>> 
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
>> 
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Thu Sep 22 14:53:42 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:53:42 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <db2bb12bff6ef083b6ed3d8dc4139a4a@etczone.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<075909CA-4726-4369-9909-ACE166E69FED@tech-software.net>
	<db2bb12bff6ef083b6ed3d8dc4139a4a@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <6BE52D2F-5070-4C96-A062-AB7771AE921E@tech-software.net>

I would love a second station lol !!!!

-----------------------------
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> On 23 Sep 2016, at 00:48, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> 
> Packet can be, and often is, used for QSOs, especially through the ISS. 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> 
>> On 2016-09-22 10:43, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> 
>> Packet and voice different freq 
>> 
>> -----------------------------
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Andrew Rich
>> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> w www.tech-software.net [1]
>> m 0419 738 223
>> 
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 00:32, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>> 
>> No issues with traffic 
>> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS. Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to make that elusive contact.
>> 
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From lafrieda at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 22 15:21:41 2016
From: lafrieda at earthlink.net (James R. La Frieda)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:21:41 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Please Read and Support the Passage of HR 1301 in
	the Senate
In-Reply-To: <05ba9158-f299-029d-6a27-12e3c9a3f400@earthlink.net>
References: <fb7c37f3-e39f-f949-004e-7498190a94ec@earthlink.net>
	<05ba9158-f299-029d-6a27-12e3c9a3f400@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <84449357-be97-bc5d-adac-1a4287e62329@earthlink.net>



On 9/22/2016 8:20 AM, James R. La Frieda wrote:
>
> Please take two minutes of your time to send a letter to your two
> Senators in support of HR 1301 which unanimously passed in the House of
> Representatives.
>
> *The passage of this bill will enable all of us to have an antenna at 
> our residence, even though many of us now have CC&R's*.
>
> Simply click on the URL below and fill in your zipcode, name, address,
> and e-mail address.
>
> That's all it takes, for the letter is already composed - and it will be
> addressed to your Senators, courtesy of the ARRL.
>
> Many thanks in advance, for your help and support.
>
> All the Best,
>
> 73, Jim (N6MV)
>
>
> Date: September 22, 2016
> Subject: HR 1301 - Amateur Radio Parity Act - Senate Letters
>
>
> We have an opportunity to positively affect Amateur Radio for years to come.  H.R. 1301,
> the Amateur Radio Parity Act, has unanimously passed the House of Representatives and
> moved on to the Senate for consideration.  All you need to do is spend two minutes of your
> time to send an email to your two Senators supporting the Bill.  By doing so, you will have
> helped the future of Amateur Radio by guaranteeing our ability to have an effective outdoor
> antenna in a deed-restricted community.
>
> The number of people living in such communities grows exponentially each year.  Often, a
> ham homeowner has no choice but to live in a community restricted by covenants.  There are
> nearly 3/4 of a million licensed hams in the United States, more than ever before.  But that
> may change if we are forced to live in a community that refuses to allow an antenna.
>
> Help yourself and help your fellow hams.  Go to this link:
>
> https://arrl.rallycongress.net/ctas/urge-senate-to-support-amateur-radio-parity-act
>
> Enter your zip code and follow the prompts.  The letters are there.
> All you need to do is fill in the blanks, hit save, then send.
>
> That?s it.  Under 2 minutes and you?re done.
>
> If you haven?t yet done so, please do so today. Your voice counts!
>
>
>
>
>


From w5pfg at amsat.org  Thu Sep 22 15:59:28 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:59:28 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <3AC3A1B2-D9C4-4193-9EAF-32173EA1C7DD@tech-software.net>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<075909CA-4726-4369-9909-ACE166E69FED@tech-software.net>
	<db2bb12bff6ef083b6ed3d8dc4139a4a@etczone.com>
	<3AC3A1B2-D9C4-4193-9EAF-32173EA1C7DD@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <57E3FFE0.5050701@amsat.org>

Hello Andrew,

Many times no one is transmitting via the ISS except unattended beacons 
here over in the US.

When attended stations want to make a QSO, they must fight to get 
through the unattended beacons.  I'd say there are 4-5 of these stations 
on almost every pass over my QTH, some transmitting every minute or so. 
Very annoying.  I send them APRS messages but not surprisingly, they're 
ignored 100% of the time.

Even unattended I-GATE's don't need to beacon via the ISS. If their 
purpose is to take the RF traffic and send it to the Internet, there is 
no need for them to advertise on 145.825 MHz.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 9/22/2016 09:53, Andrew Rich wrote:
> Trust me guys in Australia here it's just me and the bird
>
> Andrew
>
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net
> m 0419 738 223
>
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 00:48, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
>>
>> Packet can be, and often is, used for QSOs, especially through the ISS.
>>
>> Steve AI9IN
>>


From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Thu Sep 22 16:13:21 2016
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:13:21 -0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] Use of DR-735T for satellite
Message-ID: <201609221613.u8MGDMcW004881@mail41c28.carrierzone.com>

Just reading the mail on HT's that are usable for sat.  I have a 
Baofeng UV-5RA and std Arrow.

I am installing a brand new Alinco model DR-735T which is capable of 
cross-band operation (has two receivers and internal 
diplexer).  Haven't begun looking into operating details, as yet, but 
hope it is satellite usable.

It is a 50w-30w(adj)-5w dual-band radio with packet capability 
(1200baud only).  Its being installed in my new Ford F250 truck 
(diesel) for mobile while on extended trips towing a 5th wheel 
trailer (beginning in 2017).

I'm also wondering how well a dual-band Comet whip will do thru the 
satellites?  Also have a Par-Angle 2m Horz loop.  We should be 
traveling thru many rare grids in our travels to/from AK.  We will 
beacon 144.390 APRS on the road with 100-Hz PL for calling us.

Project: http://www.kl7uw.com/Mobile.htm


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
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From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 16:25:31 2016
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:25:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <CAEWsTrNbpMZxMJj=vDDUM5WO1tV9K9iFzFpm71M9gWGZXS7Qsg@mail.gmail.com>

Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
yard!

I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response , I
have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I am
still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes on
ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.

AA0AN
Sean



On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:

> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>
>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>>
>> No issues with traffic
>>
>
> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS.
> Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to
> make that elusive contact.
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Thu Sep 22 16:44:37 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 02:44:37 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <CAEWsTrNbpMZxMJj=vDDUM5WO1tV9K9iFzFpm71M9gWGZXS7Qsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<CAEWsTrNbpMZxMJj=vDDUM5WO1tV9K9iFzFpm71M9gWGZXS7Qsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63A8D9F1-2739-4124-9FC9-159775414E55@tech-software.net>

Guys

Thats why it is a ping box

It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would do anyway - send once a minute 

Its all good

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
> yard!
> 
> I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response , I
> have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I am
> still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes on
> ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
> 
> AA0AN
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> 
>>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>>> 
>>> No issues with traffic
>>> 
>> 
>> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
>> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS.
>> Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to
>> make that elusive contact.
>> 
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Sep 22 16:49:49 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:49:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <63A8D9F1-2739-4124-9FC9-159775414E55@tech-software.net>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<CAEWsTrNbpMZxMJj=vDDUM5WO1tV9K9iFzFpm71M9gWGZXS7Qsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<63A8D9F1-2739-4124-9FC9-159775414E55@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpPFT-gTKA+b5m5rPWS5UcSkScEmNiT-2ujyN3ReQUAfA@mail.gmail.com>

If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of transmitting
at all?

73,

Paul, N8HM


On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
wrote:

> Guys
>
> Thats why it is a ping box
>
> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would
> do anyway - send once a minute
>
> Its all good
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
> > yard!
> >
> > I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response ,
> I
> > have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I
> am
> > still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes
> on
> > ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
> >
> > AA0AN
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> >>
> >>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> >>>
> >>> No issues with traffic
> >>>
> >>
> >> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> >> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the
> ISS.
> >> Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be
> trying to
> >> make that elusive contact.
> >>
> >> --- Zach
> >> N0ZGO
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> program!
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> _______________________________________________
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> expressed
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Thu Sep 22 16:57:51 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 02:57:51 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpPFT-gTKA+b5m5rPWS5UcSkScEmNiT-2ujyN3ReQUAfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<CAEWsTrNbpMZxMJj=vDDUM5WO1tV9K9iFzFpm71M9gWGZXS7Qsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<63A8D9F1-2739-4124-9FC9-159775414E55@tech-software.net>
	<CABzOSOpPFT-gTKA+b5m5rPWS5UcSkScEmNiT-2ujyN3ReQUAfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AF1F2F94-F5ED-4225-89B3-031F506A3807@tech-software.net>

To see if I can make it 

Why go to the moon ? 

-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of transmitting at all?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>> Guys
>> 
>> Thats why it is a ping box
>> 
>> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would do anyway - send once a minute
>> 
>> Its all good
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
>> > yard!
>> >
>> > I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response , I
>> > have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I am
>> > still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes on
>> > ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
>> >
>> > AA0AN
>> > Sean
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>> >>>
>> >>> No issues with traffic
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
>> >> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS.
>> >> Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to
>> >> make that elusive contact.
>> >>
>> >> --- Zach
>> >> N0ZGO
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> >> expressed
>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> >> AMSAT-NA.
>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From w0jab at big-river.net  Thu Sep 22 16:57:48 2016
From: w0jab at big-river.net (John Becker)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:57:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <63A8D9F1-2739-4124-9FC9-159775414E55@tech-software.net>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<CAEWsTrNbpMZxMJj=vDDUM5WO1tV9K9iFzFpm71M9gWGZXS7Qsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<63A8D9F1-2739-4124-9FC9-159775414E55@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <1f78070e-e161-f6ec-31df-c3992d048c04@big-river.net>

Are you speaking of total unattended stations?

john

On 9/22/2016 11:44 AM, Andrew Rich wrote:
> Guys
>
> Thats why it is a ping box
>
> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would do anyway - send once a minute
>
> Its all good
>
> Andrew
>

From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Sep 22 17:06:38 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:06:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <AF1F2F94-F5ED-4225-89B3-031F506A3807@tech-software.net>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>
	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>
	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>
	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>
	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>
	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>
	<CAEWsTrNbpMZxMJj=vDDUM5WO1tV9K9iFzFpm71M9gWGZXS7Qsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<63A8D9F1-2739-4124-9FC9-159775414E55@tech-software.net>
	<CABzOSOpPFT-gTKA+b5m5rPWS5UcSkScEmNiT-2ujyN3ReQUAfA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AF1F2F94-F5ED-4225-89B3-031F506A3807@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <7abb79637bbf7f196670218267c01349@etczone.com>

"To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
it, why not leave some air time for other folks? 

Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
his/her purpose? 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:

> To see if I can make it 
> 
> Why go to the moon ? 
> 
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net [1]
> m 0419 738 223
> 
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of transmitting at all?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> Guys
> 
> Thats why it is a ping box
> 
> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would do anyway - send once a minute
> 
> Its all good
> 
> Andrew
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net [1]
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
> yard!
> 
> I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response , I
> have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I am
> still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes on
> ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
> 
> AA0AN
> Sean
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> 
> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> 
> No issues with traffic
> 
> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS.
> Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to
> make that elusive contact.
> 
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 _______________________________________________
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AMSAT-NA.
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program!
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AMSAT-NA.
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From kb2m at arrl.net  Thu Sep 22 17:50:51 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:50:51 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <7abb79637bbf7f196670218267c01349@etczone.com>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>	<CAEWsTrNbpMZxMJj=vDDUM5WO1tV9K9iFzFpm71M9gWGZXS7Qsg@mail.gmail.com>	<63A8D9F1-2739-4124-9FC9-159775414E55@tech-software.net>	<CABzOSOpPFT-gTKA+b5m5rPWS5UcSkScEmNiT-2ujyN3ReQUAfA@mail.gmail.com>	<AF1F2F94-F5ED-4225-89B3-031F506A3807@tech-software.net>
	<7abb79637bbf7f196670218267c01349@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <00f201d214f9$de3b0db0$9ab12910$@net>

Andrew, What you should be doing is try using the onboard packet BBS. That
way people could read and send you messages. As you're in a low use ISS area
this would be ideal for you and other ISS users...

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
skristof at etczone.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:07 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box

"To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made it,
why not leave some air time for other folks? 

Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
his/her purpose? 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:

> To see if I can make it
> 
> Why go to the moon ? 
> 
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net [1]
> m 0419 738 223
> 
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
transmitting at all?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
wrote:
> Guys
> 
> Thats why it is a ping box
> 
> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I 
> would do anyway - send once a minute
> 
> Its all good
> 
> Andrew
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net [1]
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my 
> front yard!
> 
> I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response 
> , I have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, 
> but I am still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend 
> hold passes on ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me
a message.
> 
> AA0AN
> Sean
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
wrote:
> 
> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> 
> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> 
> No issues with traffic
> 
> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up 
> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS.
> Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be 
> trying to make that elusive contact.
> 
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> 
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From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 17:52:19 2016
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:52:19 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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Since we are on the subject of pinging,  I am at my keyboard trying to make
a qso. How often should I send my beacon in order to alert people to me
that I am looking for QSO

My Beacon says "AHOY FROM EM29 PSE MSG ME" to indicate i am a real person
there to message

Once a minute? shorter? longer?

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:06 PM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> "To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
> it, why not leave some air time for other folks?
>
> Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
> his/her purpose?
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:
>
> > To see if I can make it
> >
> > Why go to the moon ?
> >
> > -----------------------------
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > Andrew Rich
> > e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> > w www.tech-software.net [1]
> > m 0419 738 223
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> >
> > If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
> transmitting at all?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> wrote:
> > Guys
> >
> > Thats why it is a ping box
> >
> > It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would
> do anyway - send once a minute
> >
> > Its all good
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net [1]
> > m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
> > yard!
> >
> > I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response ,
> I
> > have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I
> am
> > still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes
> on
> > ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
> >
> > AA0AN
> > Sean
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> >
> > There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> >
> > No issues with traffic
> >
> > The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> > potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the
> ISS.
> > Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying
> to
> > make that elusive contact.
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> >
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From w1xq at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 22 17:42:46 2016
From: w1xq at yahoo.com (John)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:42:46 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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I too run a Arrow with 5 watts.  Interested in making a QSO.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:06 PM, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
> 
> "To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
> it, why not leave some air time for other folks? 
> 
> Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
> his/her purpose? 
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> 
>> On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> 
>> To see if I can make it 
>> 
>> Why go to the moon ? 
>> 
>> -----------------------------
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Andrew Rich
>> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> w www.tech-software.net [1]
>> m 0419 738 223
>> 
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>> 
>> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of transmitting at all?
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Paul, N8HM
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>> Guys
>> 
>> Thats why it is a ping box
>> 
>> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would do anyway - send once a minute
>> 
>> Its all good
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net [1]
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
>> yard!
>> 
>> I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response , I
>> have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I am
>> still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes on
>> ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
>> 
>> AA0AN
>> Sean
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> 
>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>> 
>> No issues with traffic
>> 
>> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
>> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS.
>> Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to
>> make that elusive contact.
>> 
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
>> 
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Sep 22 18:11:01 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:11:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
Message-ID: <ef596c8d0aaf7a40b4e4d942b5df73cf@mail.gmail.com>

> Andrew, What you should be doing is try using the onboard packet BBS.

WHAT?!!!  NO!!!

Packet BBS operation via space was proved to be entirely inoperable,
impossible total congestion,, inefficient, impractical, wasteful and
discunctional use of packet via satllites 20 years ago.  That is why all
operation now uses single packet exchanges using UNPROTO or UI packets and
why UI messaging was invented.

All it takes is one person to try to log on, and then the ENTIRE PASS is
lost to retries and retries and retries.  Nothing is accomplished, and
rarely if ever does anyone even get logged on.  It is an abomination to
even think about using the ISS BBS.

> That way people could read and send you messages.
> As you're in a low use ISS area this would be ideal for
> you and other ISS users...

Oops... nevermind... I see you are on an island thousands of miles from
any Ham Radio density...

But again, this will ONLY work over Hawaii, or Australia, or South Africa
or other areas where packet ISS usage is so low as to be non-existant.  In
those places, yes, it would be a fun experiment.  BUT ONLY UNTIL others
heard about it.  Then it would be the same ole' "tradgedy of the
commons"... (google it)...  Everybody tries and it fails for everyone....

And a disaster if anyone tried it over the USA or Europe.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
transmitting at all?

From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Sep 22 18:41:20 2016
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:41:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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I'll generally send a CQ, then wait for three or four packets to be
received to see if anyone is answering. If I don't see any answers in
three to four received packets, I'll send another CQ. I've never timed
it, but I'm guessing that it's more than once a minute. 

So, it's fairly frequent, but I'm sitting there paying attention and in
control of when my packets go out. If I don't get any replies after four
or five CQs during the peak of the pass, I'll quit sending to make room
for other folks. 

Just my opinion, but I don't feel like the frequency of sending is as
important as the concept of being attentive to and in control of your
transmissions. Transmit, then listen/watch for a reply. Repeat as
appropriate for conditions (amount of traffic) and your station's (and
the Space Station's) capabilities. 

Personally, I don't see a reason for an unattended beacon transmission
to the ISS. Probably some folks have come up with a reason. If so,
please share. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-09-22 13:52, sean fay wrote:

> Since we are on the subject of pinging,  I am at my keyboard trying to make
> a qso. How often should I send my beacon in order to alert people to me
> that I am looking for QSO
> 
> My Beacon says "AHOY FROM EM29 PSE MSG ME" to indicate i am a real person
> there to message
> 
> Once a minute? shorter? longer?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:06 PM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
> 
> "To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
> it, why not leave some air time for other folks?
> 
> Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
> his/her purpose?
> 
> Steve AI9IN
> 
> On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:
> 
> To see if I can make it
> 
> Why go to the moon ?
> 
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net [1] [1 [1]]
> m 0419 738 223
> 
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of transmitting at all? 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote: Guys
> 
> Thats why it is a ping box
> 
> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would do anyway - send once a minute 
> Its all good
> 
> Andrew
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net [1] [1 [1]]
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
> yard!
> 
> I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response , I have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I am still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes on ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
> 
> AA0AN
> Sean
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote: 
> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> 
> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> 
> No issues with traffic
> 
> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS. Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to make that elusive contact.
> 
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> 
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From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 19:33:15 2016
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:33:15 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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perfect thank you.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:41 PM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> I'll generally send a CQ, then wait for three or four packets to be
> received to see if anyone is answering. If I don't see any answers in
> three to four received packets, I'll send another CQ. I've never timed
> it, but I'm guessing that it's more than once a minute.
>
> So, it's fairly frequent, but I'm sitting there paying attention and in
> control of when my packets go out. If I don't get any replies after four
> or five CQs during the peak of the pass, I'll quit sending to make room
> for other folks.
>
> Just my opinion, but I don't feel like the frequency of sending is as
> important as the concept of being attentive to and in control of your
> transmissions. Transmit, then listen/watch for a reply. Repeat as
> appropriate for conditions (amount of traffic) and your station's (and
> the Space Station's) capabilities.
>
> Personally, I don't see a reason for an unattended beacon transmission
> to the ISS. Probably some folks have come up with a reason. If so,
> please share.
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2016-09-22 13:52, sean fay wrote:
>
> > Since we are on the subject of pinging,  I am at my keyboard trying to
> make
> > a qso. How often should I send my beacon in order to alert people to me
> > that I am looking for QSO
> >
> > My Beacon says "AHOY FROM EM29 PSE MSG ME" to indicate i am a real person
> > there to message
> >
> > Once a minute? shorter? longer?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:06 PM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
> >
> > "To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
> > it, why not leave some air time for other folks?
> >
> > Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
> > his/her purpose?
> >
> > Steve AI9IN
> >
> > On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:
> >
> > To see if I can make it
> >
> > Why go to the moon ?
> >
> > -----------------------------
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > Andrew Rich
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> > m 0419 738 223
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> >
> > If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
> transmitting at all?
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> wrote: Guys
> >
> > Thats why it is a ping box
> >
> > It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would
> do anyway - send once a minute
> > Its all good
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net [1] [1 [1]]
> > m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow  in my front
> > yard!
> >
> > I've been digipeated, I have sent  messages to people with no response ,
> I have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I
> am still waiting for a confirmed QSO.  I am Hoping this weekend hold passes
> on ISS and NO84 me.  If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
> >
> > AA0AN
> > Sean
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
> wrote:
> > On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> >
> > There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> >
> > No issues with traffic
> >
> > The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> > potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the
> ISS. Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be
> trying to make that elusive contact.
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> >
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From w5pfg at amsat.org  Thu Sep 22 19:40:48 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:40:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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Sadly, there are people who connect to the packet BBS regularly over the 
USA. It jams up the channel with REJ packets from AOS to LOS.  Those 
people probably don't read anything published here on AMSAT-BB.

73
Clayton
W5PFG


On 9/22/2016 13:11, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> All it takes is one person to try to log on, and then the ENTIRE PASS is
> lost to retries and retries and retries.  Nothing is accomplished, and
> rarely if ever does anyone even get logged on.  It is an abomination to
> even think about using the ISS BBS.

> Oops... nevermind... I see you are on an island thousands of miles from
> any Ham Radio density...

> But again, this will ONLY work over Hawaii, or Australia, or South Africa
> or other areas where packet ISS usage is so low as to be non-existant.  In
> those places, yes, it would be a fun experiment.  BUT ONLY UNTIL others
> heard about it.  Then it would be the same ole' "tradgedy of the
> commons"... (google it)...  Everybody tries and it fails for everyone....

From tomk9166 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 20:23:34 2016
From: tomk9166 at gmail.com (Tom Karickhoff)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:23:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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I have done a bit of work with APRS on the Raspberry Pi as a battery
powered mobile setup with Xaster. It had a 4in touch screen which made it
practical only for emergencies. I think a headless SatGate would be a
better use for an RPi.
On Sep 21, 2016 6:50 AM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:

> Hello
>
> A while back I had a Linux computer that would listen for the ISS then
> start sending beacons
>
> Trying to cut back on wildly transmitting all day and night
>
> Has anyone used the raspberry Pi ?
>
> It lends itself nicely to such a beacon project
>
> Listen then beacon for ten minutes
>
> Andrew
>
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From w0jab at big-river.net  Thu Sep 22 22:23:45 2016
From: w0jab at big-river.net (John Becker)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 17:23:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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Sounds a lot like the uproar that was being said about the pactor 
unattended system on HF bands. even if it was in its own "auto 
forwarding sub band.

On 9/22/2016 2:40 PM, Clayton W5PFG wrote:
> Sadly, there are people who connect to the packet BBS regularly over the
> USA. It jams up the channel with REJ packets from AOS to LOS.  Those
> people probably don't read anything published here on AMSAT-BB.

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 22:33:41 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:33:41 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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Actually, using the BBS on the ISS is worse.  With unattended operation
on HF, you're only causing congestion when transmitting.  With the BBS,
once you connect you "own" the entire packet system until you either log
out or it times out.  Given the difficulty of getting packets through
(2-way) the ISS, the chances of successfully talking to the BBS and
successfully logging out are next to nil, so when the station goes out
of range the system is dead to everyone for many minutes.

Once upon a time, the Mir station's BBS actually worked.  But that
environment is long gone.

Greg  KO6TH


John Becker wrote:
> Sounds a lot like the uproar that was being said about the pactor
> unattended system on HF bands. even if it was in its own "auto
> forwarding sub band.
>
> On 9/22/2016 2:40 PM, Clayton W5PFG wrote:
>> Sadly, there are people who connect to the packet BBS regularly over the
>> USA. It jams up the channel with REJ packets from AOS to LOS.  Those
>> people probably don't read anything published here on AMSAT-BB.
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Fri Sep 23 04:52:13 2016
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:52:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Multiple grids in N3FJP
Message-ID: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>

I know this has been addressed in the past. I just wondered if there had been any further developments in dealing with multi-grid QSOs in N3FJP? If not, any suggestions on keeping track of the gridlines you've worked?

- Matthew KK4FEM

Sent from my iPhone

From ewpereira at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 12:22:08 2016
From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:22:08 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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References: <ef596c8d0aaf7a40b4e4d942b5df73cf@mail.gmail.com>
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What would be required (from the point of view of paper work, logistics,
approvals, etc.) to replace the current ISS packet radio TNC by a device
that would implement some more efficient digital communications? The device
could be a digipeater, but employing strong FEC and a more modern
modulation and framing structure and perhaps some better scheme for channel
access. Perhaps something similar to ngham.

https://github.com/skagmo/ngham

With FEC and higher speed, we could accommodate many more users on a single
pass. A dedicated software application on the ground would implement the
modem and process information -- separating different types of messages in
different screens, providing a chat like mode for real-time communications,
automatically forwarding APRS packets, etc.

Am I day dreaming?

73, Edson PY2SDR



---
- We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together.
- N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se
trabalharmos juntos.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> > Andrew, What you should be doing is try using the onboard packet BBS.
>
> WHAT?!!!  NO!!!
>
> Packet BBS operation via space was proved to be entirely inoperable,
> impossible total congestion,, inefficient, impractical, wasteful and
> discunctional use of packet via satllites 20 years ago.  That is why all
> operation now uses single packet exchanges using UNPROTO or UI packets and
> why UI messaging was invented.
>
> All it takes is one person to try to log on, and then the ENTIRE PASS is
> lost to retries and retries and retries.  Nothing is accomplished, and
> rarely if ever does anyone even get logged on.  It is an abomination to
> even think about using the ISS BBS.
>
> > That way people could read and send you messages.
> > As you're in a low use ISS area this would be ideal for
> > you and other ISS users...
>
> Oops... nevermind... I see you are on an island thousands of miles from
> any Ham Radio density...
>
> But again, this will ONLY work over Hawaii, or Australia, or South Africa
> or other areas where packet ISS usage is so low as to be non-existant.  In
> those places, yes, it would be a fun experiment.  BUT ONLY UNTIL others
> heard about it.  Then it would be the same ole' "tradgedy of the
> commons"... (google it)...  Everybody tries and it fails for everyone....
>
> And a disaster if anyone tried it over the USA or Europe.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
> transmitting at all?
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Fri Sep 23 13:41:31 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 23:41:31 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
In-Reply-To: <CALNQy4_67Hra7tWJ7OzmMYKYOH9A98tR4AeAnUo_1EMhJebiew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef596c8d0aaf7a40b4e4d942b5df73cf@mail.gmail.com>
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Like a space transponder ? 

-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 23 Sep 2016, at 22:22, Edson W. R. Pereira <ewpereira at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> What would be required (from the point of view of paper work, logistics,
> approvals, etc.) to replace the current ISS packet radio TNC by a device
> that would implement some more efficient digital communications? The device
> could be a digipeater, but employing strong FEC and a more modern
> modulation and framing structure and perhaps some better scheme for channel
> access. Perhaps something similar to ngham.
> 
> https://github.com/skagmo/ngham
> 
> With FEC and higher speed, we could accommodate many more users on a single
> pass. A dedicated software application on the ground would implement the
> modem and process information -- separating different types of messages in
> different screens, providing a chat like mode for real-time communications,
> automatically forwarding APRS packets, etc.
> 
> Am I day dreaming?
> 
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together.
> - N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se
> trabalharmos juntos.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> 
>>> Andrew, What you should be doing is try using the onboard packet BBS.
>> 
>> WHAT?!!!  NO!!!
>> 
>> Packet BBS operation via space was proved to be entirely inoperable,
>> impossible total congestion,, inefficient, impractical, wasteful and
>> discunctional use of packet via satllites 20 years ago.  That is why all
>> operation now uses single packet exchanges using UNPROTO or UI packets and
>> why UI messaging was invented.
>> 
>> All it takes is one person to try to log on, and then the ENTIRE PASS is
>> lost to retries and retries and retries.  Nothing is accomplished, and
>> rarely if ever does anyone even get logged on.  It is an abomination to
>> even think about using the ISS BBS.
>> 
>>> That way people could read and send you messages.
>>> As you're in a low use ISS area this would be ideal for
>>> you and other ISS users...
>> 
>> Oops... nevermind... I see you are on an island thousands of miles from
>> any Ham Radio density...
>> 
>> But again, this will ONLY work over Hawaii, or Australia, or South Africa
>> or other areas where packet ISS usage is so low as to be non-existant.  In
>> those places, yes, it would be a fun experiment.  BUT ONLY UNTIL others
>> heard about it.  Then it would be the same ole' "tradgedy of the
>> commons"... (google it)...  Everybody tries and it fails for everyone....
>> 
>> And a disaster if anyone tried it over the USA or Europe.
>> 
>> Bob, WB4APR
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
>> transmitting at all?
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From daniel at destevez.net  Fri Sep 23 13:59:54 2016
From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:59:54 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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El 23/09/16 a las 14:22, Edson W. R. Pereira escribi?:
> What would be required (from the point of view of paper work, logistics,
> approvals, etc.) to replace the current ISS packet radio TNC by a device
> that would implement some more efficient digital communications? The device
> could be a digipeater, but employing strong FEC and a more modern
> modulation and framing structure and perhaps some better scheme for channel
> access. Perhaps something similar to ngham.
> 
> https://github.com/skagmo/ngham
> 
> With FEC and higher speed, we could accommodate many more users on a single
> pass. A dedicated software application on the ground would implement the
> modem and process information -- separating different types of messages in
> different screens, providing a chat like mode for real-time communications,
> automatically forwarding APRS packets, etc.
> 
> Am I day dreaming?

Hi Edson,

You're not daydreaming that much. The BEESAT satellites have a
digipeater using the Mobitex-NX protocol, which has some form of FEC.

Many other satellites on the Amateur bands transmit telemetry using
strong FEC. For instance, AAUSAT-4 uses an r=1/2, k=7 convolutional code
and (255,223) Reed-Solomon with CCSDS scrambling.

Support and experimentation for these and many other protocols is very
easy today using SDR.

73,

Dani.


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 14:14:43 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 10:14:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
In-Reply-To: <3362d7d7-5cae-dbf9-887c-5061c51bf95b@destevez.net>
References: <ef596c8d0aaf7a40b4e4d942b5df73cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALNQy4_67Hra7tWJ7OzmMYKYOH9A98tR4AeAnUo_1EMhJebiew@mail.gmail.com>
	<3362d7d7-5cae-dbf9-887c-5061c51bf95b@destevez.net>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOOFyKO4pvh3D989B5KyXGQg3LpbzCVXGw5cvtMAV=eVg@mail.gmail.com>

There is already work being done to replace the old Ericsson HT with a
customized Kenwood D710. Not sure what digital setup will be
implemented.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Dani EA4GPZ <daniel at destevez.net> wrote:
> El 23/09/16 a las 14:22, Edson W. R. Pereira escribi?:
>> What would be required (from the point of view of paper work, logistics,
>> approvals, etc.) to replace the current ISS packet radio TNC by a device
>> that would implement some more efficient digital communications? The device
>> could be a digipeater, but employing strong FEC and a more modern
>> modulation and framing structure and perhaps some better scheme for channel
>> access. Perhaps something similar to ngham.
>>
>> https://github.com/skagmo/ngham
>>
>> With FEC and higher speed, we could accommodate many more users on a single
>> pass. A dedicated software application on the ground would implement the
>> modem and process information -- separating different types of messages in
>> different screens, providing a chat like mode for real-time communications,
>> automatically forwarding APRS packets, etc.
>>
>> Am I day dreaming?
>
> Hi Edson,
>
> You're not daydreaming that much. The BEESAT satellites have a
> digipeater using the Mobitex-NX protocol, which has some form of FEC.
>
> Many other satellites on the Amateur bands transmit telemetry using
> strong FEC. For instance, AAUSAT-4 uses an r=1/2, k=7 convolutional code
> and (255,223) Reed-Solomon with CCSDS scrambling.
>
> Support and experimentation for these and many other protocols is very
> easy today using SDR.
>
> 73,
>
> Dani.
>
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From w5pfg at amsat.org  Fri Sep 23 14:38:33 2016
From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:38:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Multiple grids in N3FJP
In-Reply-To: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
Message-ID: <ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>

Typically, I enter a separate log entry for each grid in ACLog.  I 
personally am not a fan of the approach but it's the only way to track 
it correctly.

The bad thing is when ACLog fetches from LoTW, it will only recognize 
the first grid of the grid line and won't mark the second grid (log 
entry) as being received. You have to do it manually.  I keep meaning to 
email the author but get side tracked.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 9/22/2016 23:52, Matthew Stevens wrote:
> I know this has been addressed in the past. I just wondered if there had been any further developments in dealing with multi-grid QSOs in N3FJP? If not, any suggestions on keeping track of the gridlines you've worked?
>
> - Matthew KK4FEM
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Sep 23 14:40:09 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 10:40:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Multiple grids in N3FJP
In-Reply-To: <ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>

I recommended using DXKeeper, which tracks grid lines and corners perfectly!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg at amsat.org> wrote:

> Typically, I enter a separate log entry for each grid in ACLog.  I
> personally am not a fan of the approach but it's the only way to track it
> correctly.
>
> The bad thing is when ACLog fetches from LoTW, it will only recognize the
> first grid of the grid line and won't mark the second grid (log entry) as
> being received. You have to do it manually.  I keep meaning to email the
> author but get side tracked.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
>
>
> On 9/22/2016 23:52, Matthew Stevens wrote:
>
>> I know this has been addressed in the past. I just wondered if there had
>> been any further developments in dealing with multi-grid QSOs in N3FJP? If
>> not, any suggestions on keeping track of the gridlines you've worked?
>>
>> - Matthew KK4FEM
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Fri Sep 23 14:59:30 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 00:59:30 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>

Hello

Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a MAC ?

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
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w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net


From seb at wintek.com  Fri Sep 23 15:07:18 2016
From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen  E. Belter)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:07:18 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <D40ABC4F.74C34%seb@wintek.com>

MacDoppler by Dog Park Software.  Available from Dog Park Software direct
and from AMSAT (call Martha at 888-322-6728).

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com



On 9/23/16, 10:59 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Andrew Rich"
<amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org on behalf of vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:

>Hello
>
>Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a
>MAC ?
>
>Andrew 
>
>------------------------------------------
>Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>w www.tech-software.net
>m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Fri Sep 23 15:28:17 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 08:28:17 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <2A5A48FA-301E-4169-8A85-73D7FD9C7DAF@kl7cn.net>

Andrew, I use VMware Fusion and Windows on my Mac. The Mac software is OK, but Amateur Radio is mostly Windows as you've seen.

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net
CM98, usually

On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:59, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:

Hello

Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a MAC ?

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
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From seb at wintek.com  Fri Sep 23 15:45:58 2016
From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen  E. Belter)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:45:58 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Multiple grids in N3FJP
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D40ABDB6.74C3F%seb@wintek.com>

Matthew,

To add to Clayton and Paul?s excellent advice, here is how I?m handling
grid line operations in ACLog.

No further developments in Scott?s software for grid line operation.
ACLog does not directly support working from a grid line or working a
station on a grid line.  There are work arounds:


If you are on the grid line, most of the work is handled by TQSL which is
used by ACLog to sign and upload your log.  Using TQSL, create a Station
Location for the grid intersection.  Enter your contacts into ACLog, then
upload them to LoTW using this special Station  Location.

I?ve renamed one of the four Other fields to be Rover and put the grid or
grids where I was located for a contact when I?m not working from home.
This helps me keep my entries organized.

Note that ACLog doesn?t understand roving and will add the grids of the
stations you worked into the awards totals.


If you work a station that is on a grid line, then you need to enter the
contact twice for operation on a line and four times for operation from a
corner.  

Type the contact using the correct time and one of the grids and press
Enter to add it to the database.  Then choose the Recall tag on the ACLog
menu bar (at the top of the window, starts with File, Edit, Settings,
etc.) which will fill all of the fields from that first grid.  Add one
minute to both the Time On and Time Off and change the grid to the second
grid, then press Enter.  You have to change the time as LoTW treats the
second contact with the same station at the same time as a correction, not
an addition.

Repeat two more times if you contacted someone operating from a corner.

Upload the contacts to LoTW using your the correct Station Location
(probably your home station QTH).  When you download from LoTW in the
future, only one of your confirmed contacts will be flagged as received.
ACLog ignores the information downloaded from LoTW that confirms the
additional grids.

Log into the LoTW website, and click on the Your QSOs tab.  Click on the
Most Recent QSLs button.  Click on Details for the contact with the
station on the grid line.  Under Worked Station, you?ll find Grid and a
listing of the grids where the other station was located.  If you see two
or four grids there, you have a confirmed contact from those grids.

Now return to ACLog and edit the records for that contact that don?t show
L under the Received column.  Manually add the L to that record.

I hope this helps.

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com


On 9/23/16, 10:40 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Paul Stoetzer"
<amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org on behalf of n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

>I recommended using DXKeeper, which tracks grid lines and corners
>perfectly!
>
>73,
>
>Paul, N8HM
>
>On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> Typically, I enter a separate log entry for each grid in ACLog.  I
>> personally am not a fan of the approach but it's the only way to track
>>it
>> correctly.
>>
>> The bad thing is when ACLog fetches from LoTW, it will only recognize
>>the
>> first grid of the grid line and won't mark the second grid (log entry)
>>as
>> being received. You have to do it manually.  I keep meaning to email the
>> author but get side tracked.
>>
>> 73
>> Clayton
>> W5PFG
>>
>>
>> On 9/22/2016 23:52, Matthew Stevens wrote:
>>
>>> I know this has been addressed in the past. I just wondered if there
>>>had
>>> been any further developments in dealing with multi-grid QSOs in
>>>N3FJP? If
>>> not, any suggestions on keeping track of the gridlines you've worked?
>>>
>>> - Matthew KK4FEM
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>>program!
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>>>
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Fri Sep 23 16:02:29 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:02:29 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <2A5A48FA-301E-4169-8A85-73D7FD9C7DAF@kl7cn.net>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
	<2A5A48FA-301E-4169-8A85-73D7FD9C7DAF@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <7DE9786D-7BF4-4FC5-BF58-F43A597DD15E@kl7cn.net>

Allow me to amend: MacDoppler and Dog Park are excellent Mac developers and their software is impressive and well-supported.

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net
CM98, usually

On Sep 23, 2016, at 08:28, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:

Andrew, I use VMware Fusion and Windows on my Mac. The Mac software is OK, but Amateur Radio is mostly Windows as you've seen.

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net
CM98, usually

On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:59, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:

Hello

Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a MAC ?

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
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w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net

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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Fri Sep 23 16:12:50 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 02:12:50 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <7DE9786D-7BF4-4FC5-BF58-F43A597DD15E@kl7cn.net>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
	<2A5A48FA-301E-4169-8A85-73D7FD9C7DAF@kl7cn.net>
	<7DE9786D-7BF4-4FC5-BF58-F43A597DD15E@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <4ACBCB20-11DA-4198-9DCC-8FEC02888AF4@tech-software.net>

The only suggestion I would make is 

+ Add a daily schedule of satellite passes that can be emailed or saved to a .html file available via a web server

I see UDP output which I will investigate

Loving the interface very good

Can MacDoppler drive my SDR Dongle on freq ?

Andrew 


------------------------------------------
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m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 24 Sep 2016, at 2:02 AM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> 
> Allow me to amend: MacDoppler and Dog Park are excellent Mac developers and their software is impressive and well-supported.
> 
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> bryan at kl7cn.net
> CM98, usually
> 
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 08:28, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> 
> Andrew, I use VMware Fusion and Windows on my Mac. The Mac software is OK, but Amateur Radio is mostly Windows as you've seen.
> 
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> bryan at kl7cn.net
> CM98, usually
> 
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:59, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a MAC ?
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Fri Sep 23 16:26:49 2016
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 18:26:49 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <4ACBCB20-11DA-4198-9DCC-8FEC02888AF4@tech-software.net>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
	<2A5A48FA-301E-4169-8A85-73D7FD9C7DAF@kl7cn.net>
	<7DE9786D-7BF4-4FC5-BF58-F43A597DD15E@kl7cn.net>
	<4ACBCB20-11DA-4198-9DCC-8FEC02888AF4@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <a51b98415fba80abafe961666a91f86a@vgnet.nl>


Hi Andrew,

You can also look at GPredict and combine it with GQRX to control your 
SDR.

73 Jan


On 23-09-2016 18:12, Andrew Rich wrote:
> The only suggestion I would make is
> 
> + Add a daily schedule of satellite passes that can be emailed or
> saved to a .html file available via a web server
> 
> I see UDP output which I will investigate
> 
> Loving the interface very good
> 
> Can MacDoppler drive my SDR Dongle on freq ?
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 2:02 AM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Allow me to amend: MacDoppler and Dog Park are excellent Mac 
>> developers and their software is impressive and well-supported.
>> 
>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>> CM98, usually
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 08:28, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew, I use VMware Fusion and Windows on my Mac. The Mac software 
>> is OK, but Amateur Radio is mostly Windows as you've seen.
>> 
>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>> CM98, usually
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:59, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on 
>> a MAC ?
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Fri Sep 23 16:38:45 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 02:38:45 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <a51b98415fba80abafe961666a91f86a@vgnet.nl>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
	<2A5A48FA-301E-4169-8A85-73D7FD9C7DAF@kl7cn.net>
	<7DE9786D-7BF4-4FC5-BF58-F43A597DD15E@kl7cn.net>
	<4ACBCB20-11DA-4198-9DCC-8FEC02888AF4@tech-software.net>
	<a51b98415fba80abafe961666a91f86a@vgnet.nl>
Message-ID: <38EE0B73-35B0-4F2B-8258-A2EC91547EBE@tech-software.net>

Yes I have a few dependencies missing for GPredict

I tried to compile and then got MacDoppler

Looking how to decode Weather Satellites on my Mac NOAA 19 is full scale 

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 24 Sep 2016, at 2:26 AM, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat at vgnet.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> You can also look at GPredict and combine it with GQRX to control your SDR.
> 
> 73 Jan
> 
> 
> On 23-09-2016 18:12, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> The only suggestion I would make is
>> + Add a daily schedule of satellite passes that can be emailed or
>> saved to a .html file available via a web server
>> I see UDP output which I will investigate
>> Loving the interface very good
>> Can MacDoppler drive my SDR Dongle on freq ?
>> Andrew
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 2:02 AM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>> Allow me to amend: MacDoppler and Dog Park are excellent Mac developers and their software is impressive and well-supported.
>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>>> CM98, usually
>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 08:28, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>> Andrew, I use VMware Fusion and Windows on my Mac. The Mac software is OK, but Amateur Radio is mostly Windows as you've seen.
>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>>> CM98, usually
>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:59, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a MAC ?
>>> Andrew
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>>> w www.tech-software.net
>>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> 
> -- 
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> DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
> irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From ewpereira at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 16:52:48 2016
From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:52:48 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
In-Reply-To: <3362d7d7-5cae-dbf9-887c-5061c51bf95b@destevez.net>
References: <ef596c8d0aaf7a40b4e4d942b5df73cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALNQy4_67Hra7tWJ7OzmMYKYOH9A98tR4AeAnUo_1EMhJebiew@mail.gmail.com>
	<3362d7d7-5cae-dbf9-887c-5061c51bf95b@destevez.net>
Message-ID: <CALNQy48F=smZnhRZgx5q=qZA_cAx2hcBJchaqD2Fw7x4Q9inyg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dani,

I have been following with great interest the commissioning of BEESAT and
am looking forward to experiment with the digipeater onboard. Daniel,
EA4GPZ, has implemented a very nice modem for BEESAT in gnuradio (
https://github.com/daniestevez/gr-satellites). I have tested it with some
audio samples recorded by Jan, PE0SAT. It works very well.

It would be very nice if a similar type of experiment could replace the
ancient AX.25 digipeater onboard the ISS.

73, Edson PY2SDR


---
- We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together.
- N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se
trabalharmos juntos.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Dani EA4GPZ <daniel at destevez.net> wrote:

> El 23/09/16 a las 14:22, Edson W. R. Pereira escribi?:
> > What would be required (from the point of view of paper work, logistics,
> > approvals, etc.) to replace the current ISS packet radio TNC by a device
> > that would implement some more efficient digital communications? The
> device
> > could be a digipeater, but employing strong FEC and a more modern
> > modulation and framing structure and perhaps some better scheme for
> channel
> > access. Perhaps something similar to ngham.
> >
> > https://github.com/skagmo/ngham
> >
> > With FEC and higher speed, we could accommodate many more users on a
> single
> > pass. A dedicated software application on the ground would implement the
> > modem and process information -- separating different types of messages
> in
> > different screens, providing a chat like mode for real-time
> communications,
> > automatically forwarding APRS packets, etc.
> >
> > Am I day dreaming?
>
> Hi Edson,
>
> You're not daydreaming that much. The BEESAT satellites have a
> digipeater using the Mobitex-NX protocol, which has some form of FEC.
>
> Many other satellites on the Amateur bands transmit telemetry using
> strong FEC. For instance, AAUSAT-4 uses an r=1/2, k=7 convolutional code
> and (255,223) Reed-Solomon with CCSDS scrambling.
>
> Support and experimentation for these and many other protocols is very
> easy today using SDR.
>
> 73,
>
> Dani.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From kl0s at cox.net  Fri Sep 23 17:10:03 2016
From: kl0s at cox.net (Dino Papas)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:10:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <n4eu1t01G4F0Vt7014f3w0>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
	<2A5A48FA-301E-4169-8A85-73D7FD9C7DAF@kl7cn.net>
	<7DE9786D-7BF4-4FC5-BF58-F43A597DD15E@kl7cn.net>
	<4ACBCB20-11DA-4198-9DCC-8FEC02888AF4@tech-software.net>
	<a51b98415fba80abafe961666a91f86a@vgnet.nl>
	<n4eu1t01G4F0Vt7014f3w0>
Message-ID: <0FF09B04-BC47-4236-9021-F03B18B50307@cox.net>

Andrew - for WX Sats check out:

http://www.wxtoimg.com

I?ve been using it for many years and it works very well with the LEO birds.

73 - Dino KL0S


> On Sep232016, at 1238 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes I have a few dependencies missing for GPredict
> 
> I tried to compile and then got MacDoppler
> 
> Looking how to decode Weather Satellites on my Mac NOAA 19 is full scale 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 2:26 AM, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat at vgnet.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> You can also look at GPredict and combine it with GQRX to control your SDR.
>> 
>> 73 Jan
>> 
>> 
>> On 23-09-2016 18:12, Andrew Rich wrote:
>>> The only suggestion I would make is
>>> + Add a daily schedule of satellite passes that can be emailed or
>>> saved to a .html file available via a web server
>>> I see UDP output which I will investigate
>>> Loving the interface very good
>>> Can MacDoppler drive my SDR Dongle on freq ?
>>> Andrew
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>>> w www.tech-software.net
>>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 2:02 AM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>>> Allow me to amend: MacDoppler and Dog Park are excellent Mac developers and their software is impressive and well-supported.
>>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>>>> CM98, usually
>>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 08:28, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>>> Andrew, I use VMware Fusion and Windows on my Mac. The Mac software is OK, but Amateur Radio is mostly Windows as you've seen.
>>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>>>> CM98, usually
>>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:59, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>> Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a MAC ?
>>>> Andrew
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>>>> w www.tech-software.net
>>>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
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>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
>> -- 
>> With regards PE0SAT
>> Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/
>> DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
>> irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Fri Sep 23 17:20:09 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 03:20:09 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBB
In-Reply-To: <CALNQy48F=smZnhRZgx5q=qZA_cAx2hcBJchaqD2Fw7x4Q9inyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef596c8d0aaf7a40b4e4d942b5df73cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALNQy4_67Hra7tWJ7OzmMYKYOH9A98tR4AeAnUo_1EMhJebiew@mail.gmail.com>
	<3362d7d7-5cae-dbf9-887c-5061c51bf95b@destevez.net>
	<CALNQy48F=smZnhRZgx5q=qZA_cAx2hcBJchaqD2Fw7x4Q9inyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38753FB7-FA18-4C68-A19E-703CCA64D90D@tech-software.net>

One of my missions is to get gnu radio running on my Mac

I have airspy RTLSDR and perhaps lime SDR 

Andrew

-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 24 Sep 2016, at 02:52, Edson W. R. Pereira <ewpereira at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dani,
> 
> I have been following with great interest the commissioning of BEESAT and
> am looking forward to experiment with the digipeater onboard. Daniel,
> EA4GPZ, has implemented a very nice modem for BEESAT in gnuradio (
> https://github.com/daniestevez/gr-satellites). I have tested it with some
> audio samples recorded by Jan, PE0SAT. It works very well.
> 
> It would be very nice if a similar type of experiment could replace the
> ancient AX.25 digipeater onboard the ISS.
> 
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
> 
> 
> ---
> - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together.
> - N?s seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incr?veis se
> trabalharmos juntos.
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Dani EA4GPZ <daniel at destevez.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> El 23/09/16 a las 14:22, Edson W. R. Pereira escribi?:
>>> What would be required (from the point of view of paper work, logistics,
>>> approvals, etc.) to replace the current ISS packet radio TNC by a device
>>> that would implement some more efficient digital communications? The
>> device
>>> could be a digipeater, but employing strong FEC and a more modern
>>> modulation and framing structure and perhaps some better scheme for
>> channel
>>> access. Perhaps something similar to ngham.
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/skagmo/ngham
>>> 
>>> With FEC and higher speed, we could accommodate many more users on a
>> single
>>> pass. A dedicated software application on the ground would implement the
>>> modem and process information -- separating different types of messages
>> in
>>> different screens, providing a chat like mode for real-time
>> communications,
>>> automatically forwarding APRS packets, etc.
>>> 
>>> Am I day dreaming?
>> 
>> Hi Edson,
>> 
>> You're not daydreaming that much. The BEESAT satellites have a
>> digipeater using the Mobitex-NX protocol, which has some form of FEC.
>> 
>> Many other satellites on the Amateur bands transmit telemetry using
>> strong FEC. For instance, AAUSAT-4 uses an r=1/2, k=7 convolutional code
>> and (255,223) Reed-Solomon with CCSDS scrambling.
>> 
>> Support and experimentation for these and many other protocols is very
>> easy today using SDR.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Dani.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Fri Sep 23 17:23:59 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 03:23:59 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <0FF09B04-BC47-4236-9021-F03B18B50307@cox.net>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
	<2A5A48FA-301E-4169-8A85-73D7FD9C7DAF@kl7cn.net>
	<7DE9786D-7BF4-4FC5-BF58-F43A597DD15E@kl7cn.net>
	<4ACBCB20-11DA-4198-9DCC-8FEC02888AF4@tech-software.net>
	<a51b98415fba80abafe961666a91f86a@vgnet.nl>
	<n4eu1t01G4F0Vt7014f3w0>
	<0FF09B04-BC47-4236-9021-F03B18B50307@cox.net>
Message-ID: <E85E8F66-B557-485E-A019-188D3F15FD31@tech-software.net>

Cool

So I can run my Gqrx with rtl SDR and record a wave file then run that app across the wave file to get an image

Sweet

Andrew

-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 24 Sep 2016, at 03:10, Dino Papas <kl0s at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Andrew - for WX Sats check out:
> 
> http://www.wxtoimg.com
> 
> I?ve been using it for many years and it works very well with the LEO birds.
> 
> 73 - Dino KL0S
> 
> 
>> On Sep232016, at 1238 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I have a few dependencies missing for GPredict
>> 
>> I tried to compile and then got MacDoppler
>> 
>> Looking how to decode Weather Satellites on my Mac NOAA 19 is full scale 
>> 
>> Andrew 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 2:26 AM, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat at vgnet.nl> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> 
>>> You can also look at GPredict and combine it with GQRX to control your SDR.
>>> 
>>> 73 Jan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 23-09-2016 18:12, Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>> The only suggestion I would make is
>>>> + Add a daily schedule of satellite passes that can be emailed or
>>>> saved to a .html file available via a web server
>>>> I see UDP output which I will investigate
>>>> Loving the interface very good
>>>> Can MacDoppler drive my SDR Dongle on freq ?
>>>> Andrew
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>>>> w www.tech-software.net
>>>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 2:02 AM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>>>> Allow me to amend: MacDoppler and Dog Park are excellent Mac developers and their software is impressive and well-supported.
>>>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>>>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>>>>> CM98, usually
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 08:28, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, I use VMware Fusion and Windows on my Mac. The Mac software is OK, but Amateur Radio is mostly Windows as you've seen.
>>>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>>>> bryan at kl7cn.net
>>>>> CM98, usually
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:59, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a MAC ?
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>>>>> w www.tech-software.net
>>>>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> With regards PE0SAT
>>> Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/
>>> DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
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From dtabor at estesvalley.net  Fri Sep 23 17:17:56 2016
From: dtabor at estesvalley.net (dtabor at estesvalley.net)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:17:56 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
Message-ID: <87693a5f8c40cce4e2d99b376018d0e0@127.0.0.1>

If you have to Windows on a Mac, there are 2 ways I like to go. If it's
just for running apps, I use VirtualBox which is free and gets regular
communal updates. Haven't had any application not run on VB (yet).

If I need heavy duty I/O (as for PowerSDR and the Flex-5000 line), I'll
use Bootcamp from Apple - allows for partitioning of disk for a Windows
install, Windows drivers customized for Mac hardware and then boot into
Windows. That way I get close to full bandwidth Firewire access when
needed.

Was very impressed with MacDoppler, but using a Flex, I run Bootcamp.

Doug, N6UA

From nss at mwt.net  Fri Sep 23 18:28:34 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:28:34 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Oscar-7 Mode A
Message-ID: <612a9957-05f0-7b23-07c0-5183d6a23a7d@mwt.net>

Someone the other day was gonna make up a schedule of expected times 
when Oscar-7 will be in Mode A.

Did this ever happen?

Joe WB9SBD
-- 
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Sep 23 18:46:20 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:46:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Oscar-7 Mode A
In-Reply-To: <612a9957-05f0-7b23-07c0-5183d6a23a7d@mwt.net>
References: <612a9957-05f0-7b23-07c0-5183d6a23a7d@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqEmDJopP6FGA3SJ2ZH7WOLjtJ=6XFuo7POHFAc31gHRw@mail.gmail.com>

According to Illum, AO-7 will enter a period of constant sunlight at 14:15
UTC on September 28, 2016. After this, the 24 hour timer should function
and cause AO-7 to alternate between Mode A and B on a daily basis.

Nova's predictions are slightly different, showing the last eclipse will
occur at 10:33 UTC on September 26, 2016. Nova shows that AO-7 will start
eclipsing again on December 8, 2016.

I look forward to working you on AO-7 Mode A!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:

> Someone the other day was gonna make up a schedule of expected times when
> Oscar-7 will be in Mode A.
>
> Did this ever happen?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> --
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Fri Sep 23 19:05:14 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 05:05:14 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio bridge
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqEmDJopP6FGA3SJ2ZH7WOLjtJ=6XFuo7POHFAc31gHRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <612a9957-05f0-7b23-07c0-5183d6a23a7d@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOqEmDJopP6FGA3SJ2ZH7WOLjtJ=6XFuo7POHFAc31gHRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39B54ECB-EA05-4668-96EF-416B6C47CAF5@tech-software.net>

Hello

I seem to need an audio bridge between my SDR program and WXtoIMG MAC OS X

I think it is just bleeding across from the speaker to MIC at the moment.

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net



From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 19:07:46 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:07:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio bridge
In-Reply-To: <39B54ECB-EA05-4668-96EF-416B6C47CAF5@tech-software.net>
References: <612a9957-05f0-7b23-07c0-5183d6a23a7d@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOqEmDJopP6FGA3SJ2ZH7WOLjtJ=6XFuo7POHFAc31gHRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<39B54ECB-EA05-4668-96EF-416B6C47CAF5@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMuOcxWd4czd9sBndow8DJmiynL0PxNN02B8-+r3idqnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Can't remember which link I used by Soundflower is what I use to
achieve this "virtual audio cable" like functionality on Mac.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I seem to need an audio bridge between my SDR program and WXtoIMG MAC OS X
>
> I think it is just bleeding across from the speaker to MIC at the moment.
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>
>
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From k.alexander at rogers.com  Fri Sep 23 19:36:47 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (k.alexander)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:36:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO91 Schedule for Friday Sept 23
Message-ID: <b5vk07cusqmnl3c80huesrxo.1474641682803@email.android.com>

Just arrived in Moosonee! ?I worked this out on yhe way up and think it will work without venturing too far. ?This is what I hope to do but at the same time you should consider it tentative. ?Some time in there I have to go buy grocrries and make myself some dinner! ?Times are UTC:
2016 - AO7, ?2059 - SO50, ?2212 - AO7, ?2227 - XW-2C, ?2240 - SO502256 - XW-2A, ?0003 - XW-2C, ?0022 - SO50,
I have included as many SO50 passes as I can. Don't want the FM guys to feel left out! ?Note I have never worked through AO7 before. ?Consider these passes to be experimental.
73,
Ken

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

From e.krome at comcast.net  Fri Sep 23 20:10:24 2016
From: e.krome at comcast.net (Ed Krome)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:10:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio bridge
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKMuOcxWd4czd9sBndow8DJmiynL0PxNN02B8-+r3idqnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <612a9957-05f0-7b23-07c0-5183d6a23a7d@mwt.net>
	<CABzOSOqEmDJopP6FGA3SJ2ZH7WOLjtJ=6XFuo7POHFAc31gHRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<39B54ECB-EA05-4668-96EF-416B6C47CAF5@tech-software.net>
	<CALn0fKMuOcxWd4czd9sBndow8DJmiynL0PxNN02B8-+r3idqnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D3DB421C-ADEF-4959-8742-DD2060CCF012@comcast.net>

Does anyone know of a "virtual audio cable" for android?
Tnx
Ed Krome   K9EK
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2016, at 3:07 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Can't remember which link I used by Soundflower is what I use to
> achieve this "virtual audio cable" like functionality on Mac.
> 
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> I seem to need an audio bridge between my SDR program and WXtoIMG MAC OS X
>> 
>> I think it is just bleeding across from the speaker to MIC at the moment.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
>> 
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Fri Sep 23 20:26:07 2016
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:26:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
Message-ID: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>

So, after discovering that trying to process telemetry data from the
audio log I recorded out of my D72A doesn't work at all, I'm kicking
around the idea of getting an SDR receiver to monitor Fox/Funcube
telemetry, as well as use for general HF/air band/satellite reception.

My first thought is to use an SDRplay hooked up to my computer as a
more-or-less unattended monitoring station. I'm aware of the Funcube
dongle, but it looks like the SDRplay is a little more versatile as
far as general SDR use, not just sat telemetry. In theory it looks
like I can set up HDSDR with an SDRplay to record automatically on
intervals, and then process telemetry after the fact. In
practice....Has anyone used this approach? Or have a better way?

My other question is about antennas. I know there isn't going to be
any one antenna that will work for everything. At first I will
probably just use a spare 2m/440 mag mount I have lying around, stuck
on the metal roof of my house. Just curious what others are using?

thanks,

- Matthew KK4FEM

From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 21:27:11 2016
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 17:27:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKN5Q1rPFfpa00m--mvRBaU+0a923___dX5++SjBRoMYSg@mail.gmail.com>

Hold on,

Are you saying you can't decode packets from an audio recording of
packets heard on your D72? I've not tried the D72 in this way but I
have definitely done this with an old Kenwood TM-261a mobile radio, I
believe my Icom IC-706MKIIG, and maybe my old Kenwood TH-G71A HT.

I recorded using PCM WAV 44.1 KHz 16 bit in Audacity and decoded with
Soundmodem on Windows.

If this is your goal, what was your setup?

I should mention that not all packets decode even when they seem to
sound loud/clean/etc.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net> wrote:
> So, after discovering that trying to process telemetry data from the
> audio log I recorded out of my D72A doesn't work at all, I'm kicking
> around the idea of getting an SDR receiver to monitor Fox/Funcube
> telemetry, as well as use for general HF/air band/satellite reception.
>
> My first thought is to use an SDRplay hooked up to my computer as a
> more-or-less unattended monitoring station. I'm aware of the Funcube
> dongle, but it looks like the SDRplay is a little more versatile as
> far as general SDR use, not just sat telemetry. In theory it looks
> like I can set up HDSDR with an SDRplay to record automatically on
> intervals, and then process telemetry after the fact. In
> practice....Has anyone used this approach? Or have a better way?
>
> My other question is about antennas. I know there isn't going to be
> any one antenna that will work for everything. At first I will
> probably just use a spare 2m/440 mag mount I have lying around, stuck
> on the metal roof of my house. Just curious what others are using?
>
> thanks,
>
> - Matthew KK4FEM
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Fri Sep 23 22:00:10 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 18:00:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-23 22:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <eccab.50f43872.4516ffea@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-23  22:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Yamanashi Gakuin J. H. School, Kofu, Japan, direct via  8J1YGJH 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled  astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS 
Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-10-01  08:11:36 UTC 31 deg  


*************************************************
*****************************
Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with  118

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-23 22:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1084. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1049. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-09-16 06:00 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From ross at topwire.co.nz  Sat Sep 24 01:48:34 2016
From: ross at topwire.co.nz (Ross Whenmouth)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 13:48:34 +1200
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.12233.1474631444.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
References: <mailman.12233.1474631444.2211.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1e0717a0-c88d-4bb1-c0b5-519ac1c81176@topwire.co.nz>

On 23/09/16 23:50, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote:
> Packet BBS operation via space was proved to be entirely inoperable,
> impossible total congestion,, inefficient, impractical, wasteful and
> discunctional use of packet via satllites 20 years ago.

Yes, connected AX.25 is the wrong protocol for a PBBS on the ISS, and 
CSMA simply WILL NOT WORK when most user nodes can't hear each other 
(aka Hidden Transmitter Syndrome).

My understanding of PBBS operation is that the vast majority of users 
"download" far more data than they "upload", and that most of what is 
downloaded is bulletins (think - large numbers of hams downloading the 
same content as each other).

Unlike 20 years ago, broadband receivers (and sufficient computing power 
for demodulation in software) are now affordable - a cheap RTL-2832 
DVB-T USB dongle (plus preamp, filter, and antenna), can receive a 2.4 
MHz wide chunk of spectrum on 6m, 2m, 70cm, or 23cm and your PC is 
probably already fast enough to keep up.


So, I think that a usable ISS-PBBS would be cross-band full-duplex (up 
on 2m, down on 70cm or 23cm etc), with asymmetrical bit rates - slow 
uplink(s) which are compatible with ham's existing transmitters (1200 
AFSK, 9600 K9NG/G3RUH, or maybe even n-QAM or OFDM via SSB?) and a fast 
(broadband) downlink that can be received with cheap equipment (RTL-SDR, 
Airspy, etc). Of course, data compression (LZW, LZMA, Brotli, etc) and 
Forward Error Correction would be used.

Yes, a high speed broadband TX will require more power than a NBFM TX, 
but presumably an ISS-PBBS would have a far more generous power budget 
than a cube-sat.

"Spare" bandwidth on the broadband downlink would be used to constantly 
stream PBBS bulletins (and maybe even personal messages when the 
ISS-PBBS knows that the recipient is within radio range - see below re 
grid squares), so that to get the latest messages, all you have to do is 
listen (no ground station transmission required).
Thus, most users would only need to transmit when they have a bulletin 
or personal message to upload.

I would have the ISS-PBBS co-ordinate channel access - ie ground 
stations only transmit when the ISS-PBBS tells them that they can 
(TDMA). The ISS-PBBS would have to reserve some of the uplink time for 
connection requests, and there would of course be contention and 
collisions between ground stations (which can not hear each other) 
attempting to connect. To alleviate this, when the ISS-PBBS hears a 
collision in the "connect request" time slot, it could perform a binary 
search of the callsign space (as is done with some RFID systems - this 
how they cope with multiple RFID tags within range of the reader at the 
same time).

I think that it would make sense for a ground station's connect request 
packet to include their grid square (Maidenhead locator), so that the 
ISS-PBBS (which knows where it is on orbit) knows when that ground 
station is out of radio range so that it can abandon attempting to 
communicate with it. A simple enforcement mechanism (ground station 
sends incorrect grid square) is that the ISS-PBBS would refuse to 
communicate with ground stations declaring a grid square which is not 
within what the ISS-PBBS considers to be radio range.


In areas of high amateur density, it will probably be more efficient 
(and cheaper) to equip the local terrestrial PBBS with equipment to talk 
to the ISS-PBBS, and then have the hams within the coverage area of the 
terrestrial PBBS use that instead of the ISS-PBBS (this would reduce 
contention for on the "connect request" timeslot of the ISS-PBBS, and it 
will be more efficient for one PBBS to upload say ten messages to the 
ISS-PBBS in one go than it would be for ten different hams to each 
upload one messsage each to the ISS-PBBS).


This would give us global message forwarding that is not reliant on the 
internet.


73 ZL2WRW
Ross Whenmouth

From k.alexander at rogers.com  Sat Sep 24 01:58:25 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 21:58:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO91 Schedule for Saturday Sept 24th
Message-ID: <gv90kp3fneke7ar1ahejp148.1474681809325@email.android.com>

Saturday's fun filled schedule in EO91 looks like this:

Times in UTC.

1510 - FO29,
1654 - FO29,
1843 - FO29,
1946 - SO50,
2146 - SO50,
2224 - XW2A,
2305 - SO50,
2355 - XW2A,
0048 - SO50

73,

Ken
VE3HLS

From jim at milnet.uk.net  Sat Sep 24 08:35:51 2016
From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:35:51 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube-1
Message-ID: <D02817C346FF40C0AF03D2FD8AC2CAB7@jimPC2>

Hi Folks,

  Just to say that the mode has been switch just now to full time transponder mode.

Sorry, but was unable to switch last night due to command station availability. As usual we plan to switch back to education mode on Sunday pm (UTC).

73s Jim G3WGM

From simon at sdr-radio.com  Sat Sep 24 08:45:06 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:45:06 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube-1
In-Reply-To: <D02817C346FF40C0AF03D2FD8AC2CAB7@jimPC2>
References: <D02817C346FF40C0AF03D2FD8AC2CAB7@jimPC2>
Message-ID: <004901d2163f$f3467f40$d9d37dc0$@sdr-radio.com>

Jim,

I was watching a pass this morning - as soon as it went out of total eclipse
- poof - no transponder. I guessed this may be due to the BATC convention...

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jim Heck
Sent: 24 September 2016 09:36
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube-1

Hi Folks,

  Just to say that the mode has been switch just now to full time
transponder mode.

Sorry, but was unable to switch last night due to command station
availability. As usual we plan to switch back to education mode on Sunday pm
(UTC).

73s Jim G3WGM
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sat Sep 24 11:21:14 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:21:14 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>

RTL SDR dongle

I see it can do multiple freqs at once

Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown rotator controlled and radio station 

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
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w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 24 Sep 2016, at 6:26 AM, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net> wrote:
> 
> So, after discovering that trying to process telemetry data from the
> audio log I recorded out of my D72A doesn't work at all, I'm kicking
> around the idea of getting an SDR receiver to monitor Fox/Funcube
> telemetry, as well as use for general HF/air band/satellite reception.
> 
> My first thought is to use an SDRplay hooked up to my computer as a
> more-or-less unattended monitoring station. I'm aware of the Funcube
> dongle, but it looks like the SDRplay is a little more versatile as
> far as general SDR use, not just sat telemetry. In theory it looks
> like I can set up HDSDR with an SDRplay to record automatically on
> intervals, and then process telemetry after the fact. In
> practice....Has anyone used this approach? Or have a better way?
> 
> My other question is about antennas. I know there isn't going to be
> any one antenna that will work for everything. At first I will
> probably just use a spare 2m/440 mag mount I have lying around, stuck
> on the metal roof of my house. Just curious what others are using?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> - Matthew KK4FEM
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From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 19:04:13 2016
From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:04:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracking in MAC OS X
In-Reply-To: <CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
References: <D8CACCEB-8C57-4C94-AB6D-50C10983E605@mrstevens.net>
	<ddfe8840-5f4a-68f5-076a-36efa204b7bd@amsat.org>
	<CABzOSOr0iXhmSfsM=9N9uSwCqCLDR_FFhDhN5kNMLcnKhTYLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CE25EF39-01B9-46C7-8138-65ED03B182A9@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <CAOsf+NSwEKOL6eye675nHVv9zZHjCTCNMrnQHELiXL0+ASnvog@mail.gmail.com>

I used MacDoppler and it is a very good satellite station control
application.  Controls my FT-847 via CAT and my SPID RAZ rotor.   The
developers provide no cost feature upgrades about 4 times per year.

Good Luck with it.     73 - Paul - W2HRO

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> Hello
>
> Can you tell me the preferred satellite tracking program that runs on a MAC ?
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
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> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>
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From simon at sdr-radio.com  Sat Sep 24 11:29:33 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:29:33 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>

But,

Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The AirSpy Mini
(the AirSpy dongle flavour) https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much
better option, especially with the latest software support in SDR#.

FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
http://sdr-satellites.com/

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich

RTL SDR dongle

I see it can do multiple freqs at once

Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown rotator
controlled and radio station 


From simon at sdr-radio.com  Sat Sep 24 11:30:03 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:30:03 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube-1
In-Reply-To: <004901d2163f$f3467f40$d9d37dc0$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <D02817C346FF40C0AF03D2FD8AC2CAB7@jimPC2>
	<004901d2163f$f3467f40$d9d37dc0$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <005701d21656$fdf5f940$f9e1ebc0$@sdr-radio.com>

Or even last night as I come to think of it :)

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Simon Brown
Sent: 24 September 2016 09:45
To: 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube-1

Jim,

I was watching a pass this morning - as soon as it went out of total eclipse
- poof - no transponder. I guessed this may be due to the BATC convention...

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jim Heck
Sent: 24 September 2016 09:36
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube-1

Hi Folks,

  Just to say that the mode has been switch just now to full time
transponder mode.

Sorry, but was unable to switch last night due to command station
availability. As usual we plan to switch back to education mode on Sunday pm
(UTC).

73s Jim G3WGM
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sat Sep 24 11:36:47 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:36:47 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
	<005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <625CD1C7-1710-46F5-A39B-C5225660BF16@tech-software.net>

Yep

+ RTL SDR
+ AirSpy Mini
+ LimeSDR

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
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w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
> 
> But,
> 
> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The AirSpy Mini
> (the AirSpy dongle flavour) https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much
> better option, especially with the latest software support in SDR#.
> 
> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
> http://sdr-satellites.com/
> 
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
> 
> RTL SDR dongle
> 
> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
> 
> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown rotator
> controlled and radio station 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sat Sep 24 11:40:58 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:40:58 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] MacDoppler Question
Message-ID: <A5D2C82A-CC25-4EB3-A5C4-F59404C3ACC7@tech-software.net>

Hello

I have a question about the functionality of the MacDoppler program

I have a list of satellites down the bottom. 

I have added the NOAA series of weather satellites. 

But they don?t get into the list

Does that mean they are too far away in time ?

Or have I failed to add them to the list correctly ?

Andrew


------------------------------------------
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w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net







From matthew at mrstevens.net  Sat Sep 24 11:51:16 2016
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 07:51:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <625CD1C7-1710-46F5-A39B-C5225660BF16@tech-software.net>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
	<005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
	<625CD1C7-1710-46F5-A39B-C5225660BF16@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <C26F1A68-FC8B-4277-A893-D3EF0A26915B@mrstevens.net>

Wow, looks like quite a project! That will be really nice to have everything in one package.

The SDRplay is 12 bit, I believe. Right now I'm going to keep everything simple as I can. Don't have a place to mount a rotator/array anyways.

- Matthew KK4FEM

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 07:36, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> Yep
> 
> + RTL SDR
> + AirSpy Mini
> + LimeSDR
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>> 
>> But,
>> 
>> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The AirSpy Mini
>> (the AirSpy dongle flavour) https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much
>> better option, especially with the latest software support in SDR#.
>> 
>> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
>> http://sdr-satellites.com/
>> 
>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>> http://sdr-radio.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
>> 
>> RTL SDR dongle
>> 
>> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
>> 
>> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown rotator
>> controlled and radio station 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sat Sep 24 11:54:01 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:54:01 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
	<005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <D057054A-1881-4880-8AC7-026E0D11F0C5@tech-software.net>

Simon

Could you take a moment to list what applications I can use the AirSpy MINI with ? 

Cheers

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
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m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
> 
> But,
> 
> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The AirSpy Mini
> (the AirSpy dongle flavour) https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much
> better option, especially with the latest software support in SDR#.
> 
> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
> http://sdr-satellites.com/
> 
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
> 
> RTL SDR dongle
> 
> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
> 
> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown rotator
> controlled and radio station 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From vimone at alice.it  Sat Sep 24 12:15:53 2016
From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:15:53 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRSharp Audio
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAKfk2zN37AhKvJ33TJgk9GMBAAAAAA==@alice.it>

Hi Guys,

I am noticing a problem with the audio on SdrSharp.

I have set as Input: [Windows DirectSound] Linea (-2 Funcube Dongle V2.0 )
and as Output: [MME] Cable Input (VB-Audio Virtual C.

The problem is while I am using the SDRSharp program and I want to listen a
song or listen an audio file on the Net,

the SDRSharp Audio drops a bit till the audio file is terminated then the
SDRSharp Audio comes up again.

Please how to solve it?

Thanks

Enzo.

 

 

73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sat Sep 24 12:28:31 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:28:31 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDRSharp Audio
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAKfk2zN37AhKvJ33TJgk9GMBAAAAAA==@alice.it>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAKfk2zN37AhKvJ33TJgk9GMBAAAAAA==@alice.it>
Message-ID: <C14CF144-922E-479B-8C84-9938DA4C8952@tech-software.net>

Sounds like what my iPhone does when it mutes the audio when in a phone call 

Andrew

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> On 24 Sep 2016, at 22:15, Vincenzo Mone <vimone at alice.it> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I am noticing a problem with the audio on SdrSharp.
> 
> I have set as Input: [Windows DirectSound] Linea (-2 Funcube Dongle V2.0 )
> and as Output: [MME] Cable Input (VB-Audio Virtual C.
> 
> The problem is while I am using the SDRSharp program and I want to listen a
> song or listen an audio file on the Net,
> 
> the SDRSharp Audio drops a bit till the audio file is terminated then the
> SDRSharp Audio comes up again.
> 
> Please how to solve it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Enzo.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 73 de Enzo IK8OZV
> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
> WinBollet BetaTester
> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
> Skype: ik8ozv8520
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      *******************************************
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>      *****     SMS  +39 328 7244294   *****
>      *******************************************
> 
> 
> 
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From tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 15:36:45 2016
From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com (Thomas Doyle)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:36:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CAHnRQRKt5czEw_N5AhQwaiLMUQj5t-19U246hMUi48RZGNZHXw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I did break with the long ham tradition of not reading manuals or help
files and tried adding the file Joe mentioned using the procedure outlined
in my help file. And it worked perfectly.

Here is the resultant "WebDataSources.txt" file

http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt, Celestrak-Amateur.txt
http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt, Celestrak-Weather.txt
http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt, Celestrak-Stations.txt
http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt, Celestrak-New.txt
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, Amsat-nasabare.txt

Here is the information you will see if you click on the rarely used
 "Help" button in my program :-)

=====  *Optional Really Advanced Feature*  ======

*--- Manage TLE Data ---*
The program distribution comes set up in a way that should handle the needs
of most users. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very
good understanding of satellite tracking and need more continue reading.
The program obtains TLE data two ways. Direct download from the internet is
the easiest. Manual entry of TLE data can also be used. The program
distribution is set up to download TLE data from the following sites.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt

The program also allows manual entry of TLE data. The TLE data format is
the traditional three line format as shown in the sample for AO-10 shown
below. The first line contains the satellite name followed by the two lines
of TLE data. If the format is not correct - it will not work. To add TLE
data first create a text file. Cut and paste the TLE data into the file.
Remember the first line is the satellite name followed by the two lines of
TLE data. When the file is ready, change the file extension of the file to
.tle and put it into the 'SimpleSatData/SatData/ManualSatData' folder. You
may put as many satellites in a file as you wish and you may have as many
files as needed.

As expected the TLE data you enter this way is not deleted when a web
update is done. This TLE data is also not updated when you do an web
update. As a reminder to myself that this is manual data I put ( ) around
the satellite name. This may not seem important to you now but it is very
helpful.

In the 'SimpleSatData/SatData' folder you will find a file
'WebDataSources.txt'. This file controls which web data sources are used by
the program. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very good
understanding of satellite tracking you can modify this file to add
additional web data sources. Note that a ' - ' at the start of a line tells
the program not use this source. The file name after the comma is the file
name that will be used to store the TLE data downloaded from the site
specified in the URL before the comma. The file name after the comma less
the file extension is what is used to identify the 'Web Data Source' in the
setup function. It is possible to really screw things up if this is not
done correctly so if you are not a very advanced computer user or do not
thoroughly understand satellite tracking I recommend staying away from this
entirely.
===========================================================

Be sure to click on the "Web Update" button after updating your
WebDataSources.txt file.

If you follow the directions and it does not work the problem lies
somewhere in your computer not the program.

Hope it works out ok for you.

73 W9KE Tom Doyle

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:

> Anyone else here using this program?
>
> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
> source.
> When I do the program crashes.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> --
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



-- 

Sent from my computer.

tom ...

From nss at mwt.net  Sat Sep 24 15:42:05 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:42:05 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <CAHnRQRKt5czEw_N5AhQwaiLMUQj5t-19U246hMUi48RZGNZHXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
	<CAHnRQRKt5czEw_N5AhQwaiLMUQj5t-19U246hMUi48RZGNZHXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c5ef4848-24e3-b424-a240-99ef3887456f@mwt.net>

For everyones info:

I did do all as described in the help, AND what many here on the list 
said to do, and nothing worked. It kept crashing.

Till one person suggested running the program as Administrator mode.

I tried that and it's ran perfectly ever since!  I just LOVE that little 
program!

Tom did a great Job with it!  I really love the simple second station 
thing where with a single click you can see when there are passes where 
both stations have the bird in view, soooo cool.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/24/2016 10:36 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I did break with the long ham tradition of not reading manuals or help
> files and tried adding the file Joe mentioned using the procedure outlined
> in my help file. And it worked perfectly.
>
> Here is the resultant "WebDataSources.txt" file
>
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt, Celestrak-Amateur.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt, Celestrak-Weather.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt, Celestrak-Stations.txt
> http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt, Celestrak-New.txt
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, Amsat-nasabare.txt
>
> Here is the information you will see if you click on the rarely used
>   "Help" button in my program :-)
>
> =====  *Optional Really Advanced Feature*  ======
>
> *--- Manage TLE Data ---*
> The program distribution comes set up in a way that should handle the needs
> of most users. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very
> good understanding of satellite tracking and need more continue reading.
> The program obtains TLE data two ways. Direct download from the internet is
> the easiest. Manual entry of TLE data can also be used. The program
> distribution is set up to download TLE data from the following sites.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
>
> The program also allows manual entry of TLE data. The TLE data format is
> the traditional three line format as shown in the sample for AO-10 shown
> below. The first line contains the satellite name followed by the two lines
> of TLE data. If the format is not correct - it will not work. To add TLE
> data first create a text file. Cut and paste the TLE data into the file.
> Remember the first line is the satellite name followed by the two lines of
> TLE data. When the file is ready, change the file extension of the file to
> .tle and put it into the 'SimpleSatData/SatData/ManualSatData' folder. You
> may put as many satellites in a file as you wish and you may have as many
> files as needed.
>
> As expected the TLE data you enter this way is not deleted when a web
> update is done. This TLE data is also not updated when you do an web
> update. As a reminder to myself that this is manual data I put ( ) around
> the satellite name. This may not seem important to you now but it is very
> helpful.
>
> In the 'SimpleSatData/SatData' folder you will find a file
> 'WebDataSources.txt'. This file controls which web data sources are used by
> the program. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very good
> understanding of satellite tracking you can modify this file to add
> additional web data sources. Note that a ' - ' at the start of a line tells
> the program not use this source. The file name after the comma is the file
> name that will be used to store the TLE data downloaded from the site
> specified in the URL before the comma. The file name after the comma less
> the file extension is what is used to identify the 'Web Data Source' in the
> setup function. It is possible to really screw things up if this is not
> done correctly so if you are not a very advanced computer user or do not
> thoroughly understand satellite tracking I recommend staying away from this
> entirely.
> ===========================================================
>
> Be sure to click on the "Web Update" button after updating your
> WebDataSources.txt file.
>
> If you follow the directions and it does not work the problem lies
> somewhere in your computer not the program.
>
> Hope it works out ok for you.
>
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>
>> Anyone else here using this program?
>>
>> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>> source.
>> When I do the program crashes.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> --
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>


From tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 16:12:12 2016
From: tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com (Thomas Doyle)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 11:12:12 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <c5ef4848-24e3-b424-a240-99ef3887456f@mwt.net>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
	<CAHnRQRKt5czEw_N5AhQwaiLMUQj5t-19U246hMUi48RZGNZHXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<c5ef4848-24e3-b424-a240-99ef3887456f@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CAHnRQR+_PxiNNQuq_oHJ6gGLR_L0Za7x9LXXePvc-d_bVBkpkA@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

Glad everything worked out. When Microsoft tightened up the security on
Windows to allow better access control it did require programs that did
more than basic stuff to run with Administrative rights which had to be set
by an user with administrative rights. It is amazing how many posts you see
on windows developers sites asking how to set the program rights to
Administrative from within the program - it would sort of defeat the
purpose of the whole thing. The only way to eliminate the run as
administrator requirement is to hold an expensive fancy developers license.

I had not looked at my  'SimpleSat Look Down' program in several years. I
have a habit of being more interested in new things and sort of move on
to a new challenge when something is working.

At a very early age my mother noticed my tendency to get bored when things
were working and move on to something new. She told me to never have any
children. "You will get bored with them, move on to something new and they
will starve to death." My web site is a good indication of how wise my
mother was.

http://www.tomdoyle.org

73 W9KE Tom Doyle



On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:

> For everyones info:
>
> I did do all as described in the help, AND what many here on the list said
> to do, and nothing worked. It kept crashing.
>
> Till one person suggested running the program as Administrator mode.
>
> I tried that and it's ran perfectly ever since!  I just LOVE that little
> program!
>
> Tom did a great Job with it!  I really love the simple second station
> thing where with a single click you can see when there are passes where
> both stations have the bird in view, soooo cool.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 9/24/2016 10:36 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did break with the long ham tradition of not reading manuals or help
>> files and tried adding the file Joe mentioned using the procedure outlined
>> in my help file. And it worked perfectly.
>>
>> Here is the resultant "WebDataSources.txt" file
>>
>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt,
>> Celestrak-Amateur.txt
>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt,
>> Celestrak-Weather.txt
>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt,
>> Celestrak-Stations.txt
>> http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt, Celestrak-New.txt
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt,
>> Amsat-nasabare.txt
>>
>> Here is the information you will see if you click on the rarely used
>>   "Help" button in my program :-)
>>
>> =====  *Optional Really Advanced Feature*  ======
>>
>> *--- Manage TLE Data ---*
>> The program distribution comes set up in a way that should handle the
>> needs
>> of most users. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very
>> good understanding of satellite tracking and need more continue reading.
>> The program obtains TLE data two ways. Direct download from the internet
>> is
>> the easiest. Manual entry of TLE data can also be used. The program
>> distribution is set up to download TLE data from the following sites.
>>
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
>>
>> The program also allows manual entry of TLE data. The TLE data format is
>> the traditional three line format as shown in the sample for AO-10 shown
>> below. The first line contains the satellite name followed by the two
>> lines
>> of TLE data. If the format is not correct - it will not work. To add TLE
>> data first create a text file. Cut and paste the TLE data into the file.
>> Remember the first line is the satellite name followed by the two lines of
>> TLE data. When the file is ready, change the file extension of the file to
>> .tle and put it into the 'SimpleSatData/SatData/ManualSatData' folder.
>> You
>> may put as many satellites in a file as you wish and you may have as many
>> files as needed.
>>
>> As expected the TLE data you enter this way is not deleted when a web
>> update is done. This TLE data is also not updated when you do an web
>> update. As a reminder to myself that this is manual data I put ( ) around
>> the satellite name. This may not seem important to you now but it is very
>> helpful.
>>
>> In the 'SimpleSatData/SatData' folder you will find a file
>> 'WebDataSources.txt'. This file controls which web data sources are used
>> by
>> the program. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very good
>> understanding of satellite tracking you can modify this file to add
>> additional web data sources. Note that a ' - ' at the start of a line
>> tells
>> the program not use this source. The file name after the comma is the file
>> name that will be used to store the TLE data downloaded from the site
>> specified in the URL before the comma. The file name after the comma less
>> the file extension is what is used to identify the 'Web Data Source' in
>> the
>> setup function. It is possible to really screw things up if this is not
>> done correctly so if you are not a very advanced computer user or do not
>> thoroughly understand satellite tracking I recommend staying away from
>> this
>> entirely.
>> ===========================================================
>>
>> Be sure to click on the "Web Update" button after updating your
>> WebDataSources.txt file.
>>
>> If you follow the directions and it does not work the problem lies
>> somewhere in your computer not the program.
>>
>> Hope it works out ok for you.
>>
>> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone else here using this program?
>>>
>>> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>>> source.
>>> When I do the program crashes.
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> --
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



-- 

Sent from my computer.

tom ...

From simon at sdr-radio.com  Sat Sep 24 16:15:56 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 17:15:56 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <C26F1A68-FC8B-4277-A893-D3EF0A26915B@mrstevens.net>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>	<005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>	<625CD1C7-1710-46F5-A39B-C5225660BF16@tech-software.net>
	<C26F1A68-FC8B-4277-A893-D3EF0A26915B@mrstevens.net>
Message-ID: <007801d2167e$ee708e90$cb51abb0$@sdr-radio.com>

Matthew,

Yes - it is quite some project but I've broken the back of it and tomorrow /
early next week will be transmitting with my FT-991 and receiving with the
Airspy, all controlled via one software package.

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
Stevens
Sent: 24 September 2016 12:51
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station

Wow, looks like quite a project! That will be really nice to have everything
in one package.

The SDRplay is 12 bit, I believe. Right now I'm going to keep everything
simple as I can. Don't have a place to mount a rotator/array anyways.

- Matthew KK4FEM

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 07:36, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> Yep
> 
> + RTL SDR
> + AirSpy Mini
> + LimeSDR
> 
> Andrew
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>> 
>> But,
>> 
>> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The 
>> AirSpy Mini (the AirSpy dongle flavour) 
>> https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much better option, especially
with the latest software support in SDR#.
>> 
>> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
>> http://sdr-satellites.com/
>> 
>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>> http://sdr-radio.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Andrew Rich
>> 
>> RTL SDR dongle
>> 
>> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
>> 
>> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown 
>> rotator controlled and radio station
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 16:35:41 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:35:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <CAHnRQR+_PxiNNQuq_oHJ6gGLR_L0Za7x9LXXePvc-d_bVBkpkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net><CAHnRQRKt5czEw_N5AhQwaiLMUQj5t-19U246hMUi48RZGNZHXw@mail.gmail.com><c5ef4848-24e3-b424-a240-99ef3887456f@mwt.net>
	<CAHnRQR+_PxiNNQuq_oHJ6gGLR_L0Za7x9LXXePvc-d_bVBkpkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2607113F9CAC4B4B8D8146E7813C1446@CSI9020>

Excuse me for jumping in, but to expand on Tom's comment about running 
programs in newer versions of Windows, you can cure a long list of problems 
when it comes to running custom applications (3rd party hobby apps, scripts 
you write yourself, etc.) with a simple adjustment.

In your "Home" folder, create a new folder called "Apps" (or whatever you 
prefer, but no spaces in the name - just to be safe).

For reference, this new folder would be side-by-side with your Documents, 
Pictures, Downloads, Music, & so on.

Then, as you install programs OTHER THAN the big, store-bought applications, 
do NOT use the default folder location that is suggested during the install 
[normally c:\Program Files -or- c:\Program Files (x86)].

Instead, put all of your recreational programs in the new "Apps" folder in 
your home directory where you have full permission to read/write/delete 
files.

Now, the excellent software written by folks in the amateur community and 
any small scripts that you might make yourself can run without running into 
the permission issues that newer versions of Windows have instituted.

Naturally all this comes with the caveat to use extreme caution about what 
you install on your computer!  Please protect yourself by only installing 
software from trustworthy sources, preferably apps that others are already 
using successfully.

I hope this is helpful.

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message----- 
From: Thomas Doyle
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 12:12 PM
To: Joe
Cc: AMSAT
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down

Joe,

Glad everything worked out. When Microsoft tightened up the security on
Windows to allow better access control it did require programs that did
more than basic stuff to run with Administrative rights which had to be set
by an user with administrative rights. It is amazing how many posts you see
on windows developers sites asking how to set the program rights to
Administrative from within the program - it would sort of defeat the
purpose of the whole thing. The only way to eliminate the run as
administrator requirement is to hold an expensive fancy developers license.

I had not looked at my  'SimpleSat Look Down' program in several years. I
have a habit of being more interested in new things and sort of move on
to a new challenge when something is working.

At a very early age my mother noticed my tendency to get bored when things
were working and move on to something new. She told me to never have any
children. "You will get bored with them, move on to something new and they
will starve to death." My web site is a good indication of how wise my
mother was.

http://www.tomdoyle.org

73 W9KE Tom Doyle



On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:

> For everyones info:
>
> I did do all as described in the help, AND what many here on the list said
> to do, and nothing worked. It kept crashing.
>
> Till one person suggested running the program as Administrator mode.
>
> I tried that and it's ran perfectly ever since!  I just LOVE that little
> program!
>
> Tom did a great Job with it!  I really love the simple second station
> thing where with a single click you can see when there are passes where
> both stations have the bird in view, soooo cool.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 9/24/2016 10:36 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did break with the long ham tradition of not reading manuals or help
>> files and tried adding the file Joe mentioned using the procedure 
>> outlined
>> in my help file. And it worked perfectly.
>>
>> Here is the resultant "WebDataSources.txt" file
>>
>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt,
>> Celestrak-Amateur.txt
>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt,
>> Celestrak-Weather.txt
>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt,
>> Celestrak-Stations.txt
>> http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt, Celestrak-New.txt
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt,
>> Amsat-nasabare.txt
>>
>> Here is the information you will see if you click on the rarely used
>>   "Help" button in my program :-)
>>
>> =====  *Optional Really Advanced Feature*  ======
>>
>> *--- Manage TLE Data ---*
>> The program distribution comes set up in a way that should handle the
>> needs
>> of most users. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very
>> good understanding of satellite tracking and need more continue reading.
>> The program obtains TLE data two ways. Direct download from the internet
>> is
>> the easiest. Manual entry of TLE data can also be used. The program
>> distribution is set up to download TLE data from the following sites.
>>
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
>>
>> The program also allows manual entry of TLE data. The TLE data format is
>> the traditional three line format as shown in the sample for AO-10 shown
>> below. The first line contains the satellite name followed by the two
>> lines
>> of TLE data. If the format is not correct - it will not work. To add TLE
>> data first create a text file. Cut and paste the TLE data into the file.
>> Remember the first line is the satellite name followed by the two lines 
>> of
>> TLE data. When the file is ready, change the file extension of the file 
>> to
>> .tle and put it into the 'SimpleSatData/SatData/ManualSatData' folder.
>> You
>> may put as many satellites in a file as you wish and you may have as many
>> files as needed.
>>
>> As expected the TLE data you enter this way is not deleted when a web
>> update is done. This TLE data is also not updated when you do an web
>> update. As a reminder to myself that this is manual data I put ( ) around
>> the satellite name. This may not seem important to you now but it is very
>> helpful.
>>
>> In the 'SimpleSatData/SatData' folder you will find a file
>> 'WebDataSources.txt'. This file controls which web data sources are used
>> by
>> the program. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very 
>> good
>> understanding of satellite tracking you can modify this file to add
>> additional web data sources. Note that a ' - ' at the start of a line
>> tells
>> the program not use this source. The file name after the comma is the 
>> file
>> name that will be used to store the TLE data downloaded from the site
>> specified in the URL before the comma. The file name after the comma less
>> the file extension is what is used to identify the 'Web Data Source' in
>> the
>> setup function. It is possible to really screw things up if this is not
>> done correctly so if you are not a very advanced computer user or do not
>> thoroughly understand satellite tracking I recommend staying away from
>> this
>> entirely.
>> ===========================================================
>>
>> Be sure to click on the "Web Update" button after updating your
>> WebDataSources.txt file.
>>
>> If you follow the directions and it does not work the problem lies
>> somewhere in your computer not the program.
>>
>> Hope it works out ok for you.
>>
>> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone else here using this program?
>>>
>>> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>>> source.
>>> When I do the program crashes.
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> --
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com 


From plaws0 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 18:12:45 2016
From: plaws0 at gmail.com (Peter Laws)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 13:12:45 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>

http://store.amsat.org/catalog/

I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).

But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
something.


-- 
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 18:57:50 2016
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:57:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,

Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Galaxy S7

On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>
> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>
> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> something.
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From n0jy at amsat.org  Sat Sep 24 19:18:59 2016
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:18:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <655a91e9-918d-ea7d-811d-70f2e1c610b2@amsat.org>

On 9/24/2016 13:12, Peter Laws wrote:
> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> something.
>
>
All,

I know it's been said many times before - we are all volunteers.  Joe
does IT.  Since Joe is the only one who has volunteered to do that, it's
up to when he can get it done. 
(Insert many times before mentioned plug for volunteer help here.)
Normally things go pretty well but life takes precedence over hobby as
I'm sure you all know.  Joe is buried and will fix the store ASAP. 

I am a stickler for detail and so I don't like to see things that aren't
"right" when they could be, on the other hand it can't be because Joe is
busy existing so we understand.  On behalf of AMSAT I apologize for any
grief but I ask you all to understand as well.

In the meantime the date really is kind of irrelevant, while I agree it
would be nice for it to say something meaningful the fact that the store
is closed remains the same.  Kinda like going to a shop where the sign
says "Will Return at 1PM" and it's 1:30 PM so what do you do?  Wait, or
come back later... cursing the sign won't get you inside.
But wait!  In this case you have an alternative, please just call
Martha.  Unless you were just planning on browsing, she can get you
whatever you wanted from the store.  She does it anyway, when you order
online.    

Thanks!

Jerry Buxton, N?JY


From onmontauk at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 19:12:14 2016
From: onmontauk at gmail.com (onmontauk at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:12:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise
Message-ID: <4F1D84D7-60C9-4250-A4DE-4FF12D234279@gmail.com>

I'm around a week before and after the cruise. Anyone want to explore the area?

Sent from my iPhone

From k9jkm at comcast.net  Sat Sep 24 21:39:37 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:39:37 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003201d216ac$2659a1c0$730ce540$@net>

> But for goodness' sake ...

Yeah, for goodness sake ... [DELETE] ... and, now back to online research on
which RV I'll get for going to hamfests and national parks. Much more
rewarding. Oh, where will the mobile ham station and laptop go? And, how
about flamingo themed shower doors in the lavatory?

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org



From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sat Sep 24 22:37:29 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 08:37:29 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <655a91e9-918d-ea7d-811d-70f2e1c610b2@amsat.org>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<655a91e9-918d-ea7d-811d-70f2e1c610b2@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <A51DEFD7-1301-4CAF-AAE2-7AE405F7029C@tech-software.net>

I aka computer programmer with heaps of time on my hands

What do u need done

I design websites in my sleep

Andrew 

-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 25 Sep 2016, at 05:18, Jerry Buxton <n0jy at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/24/2016 13:12, Peter Laws wrote:
>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>> something.
> All,
> 
> I know it's been said many times before - we are all volunteers.  Joe
> does IT.  Since Joe is the only one who has volunteered to do that, it's
> up to when he can get it done. 
> (Insert many times before mentioned plug for volunteer help here.)
> Normally things go pretty well but life takes precedence over hobby as
> I'm sure you all know.  Joe is buried and will fix the store ASAP. 
> 
> I am a stickler for detail and so I don't like to see things that aren't
> "right" when they could be, on the other hand it can't be because Joe is
> busy existing so we understand.  On behalf of AMSAT I apologize for any
> grief but I ask you all to understand as well.
> 
> In the meantime the date really is kind of irrelevant, while I agree it
> would be nice for it to say something meaningful the fact that the store
> is closed remains the same.  Kinda like going to a shop where the sign
> says "Will Return at 1PM" and it's 1:30 PM so what do you do?  Wait, or
> come back later... cursing the sign won't get you inside.
> But wait!  In this case you have an alternative, please just call
> Martha.  Unless you were just planning on browsing, she can get you
> whatever you wanted from the store.  She does it anyway, when you order
> online.    
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sat Sep 24 22:38:25 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 08:38:25 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E578ED8E-D570-4F0C-BA3E-6BA3710A5D59@tech-software.net>

Peter like me expects better 

-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 25 Sep 2016, at 04:57, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> 
> Dave-KB1PVH
> 
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>> 
>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>> 
>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>> something.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 22:38:31 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 04:08:31 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

We are glad to inform you that Pratham, IITB's Student Satellite is
expected to launch with the help of PSLV-C35 on 26th September, 2016 at
9:12 AM.
??
The following are the TLE data for the satellite:

16005A      16270.25119097     0.00000311       00000-0     59418-4     0
 1232
98.2057    329.0542    0028038    267.7677   9.1998   14.63716875    11

Any update in these will be notified at the earliest. We would love you all
to be a part of the project and help us in tracking our satellite.
There are basically
two downlink for the satellite, The beacon is estimated to switch on in the
window of 25-30 degrees North and 4-8 degrees East as per the current
TLE's. Once switched on, it will remain so through out it's orbit. The
telemetry data will be switched on only over France and India because of
our power constraints. If you could, please receive the beacon and/or
telemetry of the satellite and report back to the mail id's as given below.
The information for the satellite transmissions is given below,

Beacon:
Frequency: 145.98 MHz
Modulation: CW
Words per minute: 30
Power Emitted: 0.2 W (23 dBm)

Telemetry:
To be switched on only over India and France
Modulation: FSK
Rate: 1200 bps
Power Emitted: 0.06 W (18 dBm)

For any other Information you may visit our website
<http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/pratham/>. Also feel free to contact our
Communication and Ground station team, (Rachana Agarwal,
rachna.agrawal.04 at gmail.com; and Aayush Yadav, aayushyadav825 at gmail.com)
for any queries you may have.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your wishes.
>
> The FSK downlink contains only the health monitoring data of the satellite
> and is used for payload calculations. IPGP university in france requested
> us for the payload data for their scientific research thus we are switching
> on the telemetry only over India and France.
>
> However the CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be received
> from anywhere.
>
> Kind regards,
> Team Pratham
>
>
> On Thursday 8 September 2016, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team Pratham,
>>
>> Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and
>> deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on 437.455
>> Mhz is activated over France and India.
>>
>> 73
>> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>> Secretary, AMSAT INDIA
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>> *To:* "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
>> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>>
>> Greetings everyone,
>>
>> We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
>> Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of
>> September. We would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving our
>> satellite's beacon, details given below:
>>
>> Beacon:
>> Mode: CW
>> wpm: 35 words
>> Frequency: 145.980 MHz
>>
>> Downlink:
>> Mode: FSK
>> Baudrate: 1200 bps
>> Frequency: 437.455 MHz
>> (To be switched on over France and India only)
>>
>> We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.
>>
>> Kind Regards.
>> Team Pratham
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>>

From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 00:38:48 2016
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 19:38:48 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>

As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
bringing this up.


I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
am with Peter and Andrew on this



On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter,
>
> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>
> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
> >
> > I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> > slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> > one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> > you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >
> > But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> > off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > something.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From mccardelm at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 01:20:52 2016
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:20:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@gmail.com>

Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are buried in your work. So I little patience please.

EMike

EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> bringing this up.
> 
> 
> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>> 
>> Dave-KB1PVH
>> 
>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>> 
>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>> 
>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>> something.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From spatrickfay at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 01:29:00 2016
From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:29:00 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
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The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.

The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.



The website is not up to date.

It its 9/24 and its not open.


The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.


I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
advocacy.


Its not pedantic, its reality.


The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
you quit looking at it?"



We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
 don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
because people in the club or group or organization are jerky


QUOTED

the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.

73...bruce

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>

On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
wrote:

As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
bringing this up.


I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
am with Peter and Andrew on this



On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:

> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>
> 73...bruce
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> bringing this up.
>
>
> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> > constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >
> > On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
> > >
> > > I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > > the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> > > slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> > > one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> > > you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> > >
> > > But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> > > off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > > something.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Sep 25 01:41:21 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:41:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CAEWsTrOp7LkvVZgUpRjr4PcBi8OvZ-MBCT-k1Pu5B+50XBTE_A@mail.gmail.com>
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The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
IT person either.

We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.


73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Secretary
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:

> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>
> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>
>
>
> The website is not up to date.
>
> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>
>
> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>
>
> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
> advocacy.
>
>
> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>
>
> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
> you quit looking at it?"
>
>
>
> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>  don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>
>
> QUOTED
>
> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>
> 73...bruce
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> bringing this up.
>
>
> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> > the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
> > processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
> > changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
> > martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
> >
> > 73...bruce
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
> >
> > On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
> active
> > amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
> look
> > at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
> to
> > the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> > date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
> never
> > look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
> the
> > organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
> website
> > up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> > There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> > bringing this up.
> >
> >
> > I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> > upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> > call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> > am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> > > constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> > >
> > > Dave-KB1PVH
> > >
> > > Sent from my Galaxy S7
> > >
> > > On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
> > > >
> > > > I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > > > the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
> happens
> > > > slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
> no
> > > > one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
> store,
> > > > you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> > > >
> > > > But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
> past,
> > > > off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > > > something.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > > Opinions
> > > > expressed
> > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> > of
> > > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > > program!
> > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From k8bl at ameritech.net  Sun Sep 25 01:52:04 2016
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 01:52:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Who?
References: <796631160.4175345.1474768324022.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <796631160.4175345.1474768324022@mail.yahoo.com>

I've been seeing posts lately that do not have the originator'sNAME and CALL attached. It would be considerate and helpfulfor the readers to know who is posting what.
TNX/73, ? ? Bob - K8BL

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:08:04 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:08:04 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Who?
In-Reply-To: <796631160.4175345.1474768324022@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <796631160.4175345.1474768324022.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<796631160.4175345.1474768324022@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CB7A0318-EA92-4613-AA9F-F7CFD92F50E4@tech-software.net>

Provide an example


------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:52 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> 
> I've been seeing posts lately that do not have the originator'sNAME and CALL attached. It would be considerate and helpfulfor the readers to know who is posting what.
> TNX/73,     Bob - K8BL
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:10:07 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:10:07 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrHJd7g6yZ94OXetG6c48MvqpOCs61GKKAhX02gtYnt1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<428616946.283320.1474765742724@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAEWsTrOp7LkvVZgUpRjr4PcBi8OvZ-MBCT-k1Pu5B+50XBTE_A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrHJd7g6yZ94OXetG6c48MvqpOCs61GKKAhX02gtYnt1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2BACA8E9-F4B1-4C5E-9692-E4C3850E90F9@tech-software.net>

I am an IT person

I am a web designer

I am volunteering 

I spend most of my time on the PC

What do u need done I will do it

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
> IT person either.
> 
> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
> Secretary
> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>> 
>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The website is not up to date.
>> 
>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>> 
>> 
>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>> 
>> 
>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
>> advocacy.
>> 
>> 
>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>> 
>> 
>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>> you quit looking at it?"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>> 
>> 
>> QUOTED
>> 
>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>> 
>> 73...bruce
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>> 
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>> bringing this up.
>> 
>> 
>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>> 
>>> 73...bruce
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>> active
>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>> look
>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>> to
>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>> never
>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>> the
>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>> website
>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>> bringing this up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>> 
>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>> happens
>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>> no
>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>> store,
>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>> 
>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>> past,
>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>> something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
>> listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> 
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From k8bl at ameritech.net  Sun Sep 25 02:10:38 2016
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 02:10:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Who?
In-Reply-To: <CB7A0318-EA92-4613-AA9F-F7CFD92F50E4@tech-software.net>
References: <796631160.4175345.1474768324022.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<796631160.4175345.1474768324022@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CB7A0318-EA92-4613-AA9F-F7CFD92F50E4@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <1380968414.4225120.1474769438471@mail.yahoo.com>

They would be the ones that do not include a NAME & CALL.
73, ? ?Bob ?K8BL

      From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
 To: R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> 
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
 Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 10:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who?
   
Provide an example

------------------------------------------Andrew Rich VK4TECw www.tech-software.netm vk4tec at tech-software.net






On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:52 AM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
I've been seeing posts lately that do not have the originator'sNAME and CALL attached. It would be considerate and helpfulfor the readers to know who is posting what.
TNX/73, ? ? Bob - K8BL
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




   

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:14:37 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:14:37 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrHJd7g6yZ94OXetG6c48MvqpOCs61GKKAhX02gtYnt1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<428616946.283320.1474765742724@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAEWsTrOp7LkvVZgUpRjr4PcBi8OvZ-MBCT-k1Pu5B+50XBTE_A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrHJd7g6yZ94OXetG6c48MvqpOCs61GKKAhX02gtYnt1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DC067BCD-AF7C-421B-B035-F965D4158589@tech-software.net>

How much is an AMSAT membership ?

Can I get one in return for doing the web pages

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
> IT person either.
> 
> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
> Secretary
> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>> 
>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The website is not up to date.
>> 
>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>> 
>> 
>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>> 
>> 
>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
>> advocacy.
>> 
>> 
>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>> 
>> 
>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>> you quit looking at it?"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>> 
>> 
>> QUOTED
>> 
>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>> 
>> 73...bruce
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>> 
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>> bringing this up.
>> 
>> 
>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>> 
>>> 73...bruce
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>> active
>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>> look
>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>> to
>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>> never
>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>> the
>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>> website
>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>> bringing this up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>> 
>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>> happens
>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>> no
>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>> store,
>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>> 
>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>> past,
>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>> something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
>> listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> 
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:15:43 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:15:43 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5C462778-B169-475C-BFFA-F7DB1B5891D7@tech-software.net>

By the way 

My name is Andrew

It would be a good start to get that right 

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> 
> EMike
> 
> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>> bringing this up.
>> 
>> 
>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Peter,
>>> 
>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>> 
>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>> 
>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>> something.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:20:05 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:20:05 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <5C462778-B169-475C-BFFA-F7DB1B5891D7@tech-software.net>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@gmail.com>
	<5C462778-B169-475C-BFFA-F7DB1B5891D7@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <DDEE3E87-8166-40F4-8468-00B17589C41F@tech-software.net>

Sorry I can?t help you

Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer 

That must mean they don?t trust non yanks

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> By the way 
> 
> My name is Andrew
> 
> It would be a good start to get that right 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
>> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
>> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
>> 
>> EMike
>> 
>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>> bringing this up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>> 
>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>> 
>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>> something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Sep 25 02:25:07 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:25:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <DDEE3E87-8166-40F4-8468-00B17589C41F@tech-software.net>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@gmail.com>
	<5C462778-B169-475C-BFFA-F7DB1B5891D7@tech-software.net>
	<DDEE3E87-8166-40F4-8468-00B17589C41F@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpFK2pAqD_J25Rj3HMX_xRf9b4EZSAnFP80qZhPubXUzg@mail.gmail.com>

Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions.

As stated on the website:

If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience
directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice
President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).  Due
to the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations> (ITAR)
you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR Qualifications
<http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). *This
is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US
law.  Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at
least modified.  If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able
to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.*

This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to
US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards
non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any
AMSAT project without restriction.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
wrote:

> Sorry I can?t help you
>
> Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
>
> That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > By the way
> >
> > My name is Andrew
> >
> > It would be a good start to get that right
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net
> > m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you
> are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
> active
> >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
> look
> >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I
> went to
> >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until
> (insert
> >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
> never
> >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
> the
> >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
> website
> >>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> >>> bringing this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of
> an
> >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> >>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey
> mouse.  I
> >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> >>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
> happens
> >>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
> no
> >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
> store,
> >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
> past,
> >>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions
> >>>>> expressed
> >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of
> >>>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>> program!
> >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:28:19 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:28:19 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpFK2pAqD_J25Rj3HMX_xRf9b4EZSAnFP80qZhPubXUzg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@gmail.com>
	<5C462778-B169-475C-BFFA-F7DB1B5891D7@tech-software.net>
	<DDEE3E87-8166-40F4-8468-00B17589C41F@tech-software.net>
	<CABzOSOpFK2pAqD_J25Rj3HMX_xRf9b4EZSAnFP80qZhPubXUzg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70D28E90-A5F0-4A2E-8B9E-7221E2FD0BEA@tech-software.net>

Failure number 1

Not being able to reference the material that backs up the statement 

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions. 
> 
> As stated on the website:
> 
> If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).  Due to the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations> (ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR Qualifications <http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US law.  Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at least modified.  If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
> 
> This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any AMSAT project without restriction.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> Sorry I can?t help you
> 
> Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
> 
> That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
> 
> Andrew
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> >
> > By the way
> >
> > My name is Andrew
> >
> > It would be a good start to get that right
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com <mailto:mccardelm at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com <mailto:spatrickfay at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> >>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> >>> bringing this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> >>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com <mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com <mailto:plaws0 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> >>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> >>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> >>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions
> >>>>> expressed
> >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >>>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>> program!
> >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> 


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:29:16 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:29:16 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOpFK2pAqD_J25Rj3HMX_xRf9b4EZSAnFP80qZhPubXUzg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@gmail.com>
	<5C462778-B169-475C-BFFA-F7DB1B5891D7@tech-software.net>
	<DDEE3E87-8166-40F4-8468-00B17589C41F@tech-software.net>
	<CABzOSOpFK2pAqD_J25Rj3HMX_xRf9b4EZSAnFP80qZhPubXUzg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E60492B1-289F-46CB-BFF7-C4A3CF28B19D@tech-software.net>

BTW

I have commercial web site training and I am fluent in HTML PHP MySQL CGI perl CMS WordPress

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions. 
> 
> As stated on the website:
> 
> If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).  Due to the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations> (ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR Qualifications <http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US law.  Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at least modified.  If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
> 
> This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any AMSAT project without restriction.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> Sorry I can?t help you
> 
> Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
> 
> That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
> 
> Andrew
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> >
> > By the way
> >
> > My name is Andrew
> >
> > It would be a good start to get that right
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com <mailto:mccardelm at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com <mailto:spatrickfay at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> >>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> >>> bringing this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> >>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com <mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com <mailto:plaws0 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> >>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> >>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> >>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions
> >>>>> expressed
> >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >>>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>> program!
> >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> 


From n0jy at amsat.org  Sun Sep 25 02:39:12 2016
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:39:12 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <2BACA8E9-F4B1-4C5E-9692-E4C3850E90F9@tech-software.net>
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Andrew,

I sent you a PM.  Thanks for volunteering!

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 9/24/2016 21:10, Andrew Rich wrote:
> I am an IT person
>
> I am a web designer
>
> I am volunteering 
>
> I spend most of my time on the PC
>
> What do u need done I will do it
>
> Andrew 
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>
>> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
>> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
>> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
>> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
>> IT person either.
>>
>> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
>> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
>> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
>> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>> Secretary
>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>>>
>>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The website is not up to date.
>>>
>>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>>>
>>>
>>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
>>> advocacy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>>>
>>>
>>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>>> you quit looking at it?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
>>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>>>
>>>
>>> QUOTED
>>>
>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>
>>> 73...bruce
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>> bringing this up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>>
>>>> 73...bruce
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>>> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>>> active
>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>>> look
>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>>> to
>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>>> never
>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>>> the
>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>>> website
>>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>> bringing this up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>>> happens
>>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>>> no
>>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>>> store,
>>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>>> past,
>>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
>>> listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>


From n0jy at amsat.org  Sun Sep 25 02:40:01 2016
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:40:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <DC067BCD-AF7C-421B-B035-F965D4158589@tech-software.net>
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	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAEWsTrOp7LkvVZgUpRjr4PcBi8OvZ-MBCT-k1Pu5B+50XBTE_A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <c1d3045c-12f9-308f-a614-e6032a60fedc@amsat.org>

Sorry, volunteering is volunteering.  We get an occasional pat on the
back, if we can reach behind us that far.     ;-)

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 9/24/2016 21:14, Andrew Rich wrote:
> How much is an AMSAT membership ?
>
> Can I get one in return for doing the web pages
>
> Andrew 
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>
>> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
>> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
>> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
>> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
>> IT person either.
>>
>> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
>> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
>> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
>> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>> Secretary
>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>>>
>>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The website is not up to date.
>>>
>>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>>>
>>>
>>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
>>> advocacy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>>>
>>>
>>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>>> you quit looking at it?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
>>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>>>
>>>
>>> QUOTED
>>>
>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>
>>> 73...bruce
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>> bringing this up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>>
>>>> 73...bruce
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>>> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>>> active
>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>>> look
>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>>> to
>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>>> never
>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>>> the
>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>>> website
>>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>> bringing this up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>>> happens
>>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>>> no
>>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>>> store,
>>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>>> past,
>>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
>>> listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:54:05 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:54:05 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <CAHnRQR+_PxiNNQuq_oHJ6gGLR_L0Za7x9LXXePvc-d_bVBkpkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
	<CAHnRQRKt5czEw_N5AhQwaiLMUQj5t-19U246hMUi48RZGNZHXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<c5ef4848-24e3-b424-a240-99ef3887456f@mwt.net>
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Port it to Linux

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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 02:12, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> Glad everything worked out. When Microsoft tightened up the security on
> Windows to allow better access control it did require programs that did
> more than basic stuff to run with Administrative rights which had to be set
> by an user with administrative rights. It is amazing how many posts you see
> on windows developers sites asking how to set the program rights to
> Administrative from within the program - it would sort of defeat the
> purpose of the whole thing. The only way to eliminate the run as
> administrator requirement is to hold an expensive fancy developers license.
> 
> I had not looked at my  'SimpleSat Look Down' program in several years. I
> have a habit of being more interested in new things and sort of move on
> to a new challenge when something is working.
> 
> At a very early age my mother noticed my tendency to get bored when things
> were working and move on to something new. She told me to never have any
> children. "You will get bored with them, move on to something new and they
> will starve to death." My web site is a good indication of how wise my
> mother was.
> 
> http://www.tomdoyle.org
> 
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>> 
>> For everyones info:
>> 
>> I did do all as described in the help, AND what many here on the list said
>> to do, and nothing worked. It kept crashing.
>> 
>> Till one person suggested running the program as Administrator mode.
>> 
>> I tried that and it's ran perfectly ever since!  I just LOVE that little
>> program!
>> 
>> Tom did a great Job with it!  I really love the simple second station
>> thing where with a single click you can see when there are passes where
>> both stations have the bird in view, soooo cool.
>> 
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 9/24/2016 10:36 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I did break with the long ham tradition of not reading manuals or help
>>> files and tried adding the file Joe mentioned using the procedure outlined
>>> in my help file. And it worked perfectly.
>>> 
>>> Here is the resultant "WebDataSources.txt" file
>>> 
>>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt,
>>> Celestrak-Amateur.txt
>>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt,
>>> Celestrak-Weather.txt
>>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt,
>>> Celestrak-Stations.txt
>>> http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt, Celestrak-New.txt
>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt,
>>> Amsat-nasabare.txt
>>> 
>>> Here is the information you will see if you click on the rarely used
>>>  "Help" button in my program :-)
>>> 
>>> =====  *Optional Really Advanced Feature*  ======
>>> 
>>> *--- Manage TLE Data ---*
>>> The program distribution comes set up in a way that should handle the
>>> needs
>>> of most users. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very
>>> good understanding of satellite tracking and need more continue reading.
>>> The program obtains TLE data two ways. Direct download from the internet
>>> is
>>> the easiest. Manual entry of TLE data can also be used. The program
>>> distribution is set up to download TLE data from the following sites.
>>> 
>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
>>> 
>>> The program also allows manual entry of TLE data. The TLE data format is
>>> the traditional three line format as shown in the sample for AO-10 shown
>>> below. The first line contains the satellite name followed by the two
>>> lines
>>> of TLE data. If the format is not correct - it will not work. To add TLE
>>> data first create a text file. Cut and paste the TLE data into the file.
>>> Remember the first line is the satellite name followed by the two lines of
>>> TLE data. When the file is ready, change the file extension of the file to
>>> .tle and put it into the 'SimpleSatData/SatData/ManualSatData' folder.
>>> You
>>> may put as many satellites in a file as you wish and you may have as many
>>> files as needed.
>>> 
>>> As expected the TLE data you enter this way is not deleted when a web
>>> update is done. This TLE data is also not updated when you do an web
>>> update. As a reminder to myself that this is manual data I put ( ) around
>>> the satellite name. This may not seem important to you now but it is very
>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> In the 'SimpleSatData/SatData' folder you will find a file
>>> 'WebDataSources.txt'. This file controls which web data sources are used
>>> by
>>> the program. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very good
>>> understanding of satellite tracking you can modify this file to add
>>> additional web data sources. Note that a ' - ' at the start of a line
>>> tells
>>> the program not use this source. The file name after the comma is the file
>>> name that will be used to store the TLE data downloaded from the site
>>> specified in the URL before the comma. The file name after the comma less
>>> the file extension is what is used to identify the 'Web Data Source' in
>>> the
>>> setup function. It is possible to really screw things up if this is not
>>> done correctly so if you are not a very advanced computer user or do not
>>> thoroughly understand satellite tracking I recommend staying away from
>>> this
>>> entirely.
>>> ===========================================================
>>> 
>>> Be sure to click on the "Web Update" button after updating your
>>> WebDataSources.txt file.
>>> 
>>> If you follow the directions and it does not work the problem lies
>>> somewhere in your computer not the program.
>>> 
>>> Hope it works out ok for you.
>>> 
>>> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone else here using this program?
>>>> 
>>>> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>>>> source.
>>>> When I do the program crashes.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> --
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Sent from my computer.
> 
> tom ...
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:52:24 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:52:24 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <007801d2167e$ee708e90$cb51abb0$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
	<005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
	<625CD1C7-1710-46F5-A39B-C5225660BF16@tech-software.net>
	<C26F1A68-FC8B-4277-A893-D3EF0A26915B@mrstevens.net>
	<007801d2167e$ee708e90$cb51abb0$@sdr-radio.com>
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Simon

Rotator controller Doppler shift and satellite priority ?

Andrew 

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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 02:15, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
> 
> Matthew,
> 
> Yes - it is quite some project but I've broken the back of it and tomorrow /
> early next week will be transmitting with my FT-991 and receiving with the
> Airspy, all controlled via one software package.
> 
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Stevens
> Sent: 24 September 2016 12:51
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
> 
> Wow, looks like quite a project! That will be really nice to have everything
> in one package.
> 
> The SDRplay is 12 bit, I believe. Right now I'm going to keep everything
> simple as I can. Don't have a place to mount a rotator/array anyways.
> 
> - Matthew KK4FEM
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 07:36, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Yep
>> 
>> + RTL SDR
>> + AirSpy Mini
>> + LimeSDR
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> But,
>>> 
>>> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The 
>>> AirSpy Mini (the AirSpy dongle flavour) 
>>> https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much better option, especially
> with the latest software support in SDR#.
>>> 
>>> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
>>> http://sdr-satellites.com/
>>> 
>>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>>> http://sdr-radio.com
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Andrew Rich
>>> 
>>> RTL SDR dongle
>>> 
>>> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
>>> 
>>> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown 
>>> rotator controlled and radio station
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 02:55:39 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:55:39 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
In-Reply-To: <CAHnRQRKt5czEw_N5AhQwaiLMUQj5t-19U246hMUi48RZGNZHXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be1262b8-eee4-d8fd-5ad6-2bf3e77f563d@mwt.net>
	<CAHnRQRKt5czEw_N5AhQwaiLMUQj5t-19U246hMUi48RZGNZHXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28A132AD-69AF-4DF9-A5B3-75807140C768@tech-software.net>

I love it advanced computer user

Heck what qualifies a non advanced PC user 

A


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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 01:36, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I did break with the long ham tradition of not reading manuals or help
> files and tried adding the file Joe mentioned using the procedure outlined
> in my help file. And it worked perfectly.
> 
> Here is the resultant "WebDataSources.txt" file
> 
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt, Celestrak-Amateur.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt, Celestrak-Weather.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt, Celestrak-Stations.txt
> http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt, Celestrak-New.txt
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, Amsat-nasabare.txt
> 
> Here is the information you will see if you click on the rarely used
> "Help" button in my program :-)
> 
> =====  *Optional Really Advanced Feature*  ======
> 
> *--- Manage TLE Data ---*
> The program distribution comes set up in a way that should handle the needs
> of most users. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very
> good understanding of satellite tracking and need more continue reading.
> The program obtains TLE data two ways. Direct download from the internet is
> the easiest. Manual entry of TLE data can also be used. The program
> distribution is set up to download TLE data from the following sites.
> 
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
> 
> The program also allows manual entry of TLE data. The TLE data format is
> the traditional three line format as shown in the sample for AO-10 shown
> below. The first line contains the satellite name followed by the two lines
> of TLE data. If the format is not correct - it will not work. To add TLE
> data first create a text file. Cut and paste the TLE data into the file.
> Remember the first line is the satellite name followed by the two lines of
> TLE data. When the file is ready, change the file extension of the file to
> .tle and put it into the 'SimpleSatData/SatData/ManualSatData' folder. You
> may put as many satellites in a file as you wish and you may have as many
> files as needed.
> 
> As expected the TLE data you enter this way is not deleted when a web
> update is done. This TLE data is also not updated when you do an web
> update. As a reminder to myself that this is manual data I put ( ) around
> the satellite name. This may not seem important to you now but it is very
> helpful.
> 
> In the 'SimpleSatData/SatData' folder you will find a file
> 'WebDataSources.txt'. This file controls which web data sources are used by
> the program. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very good
> understanding of satellite tracking you can modify this file to add
> additional web data sources. Note that a ' - ' at the start of a line tells
> the program not use this source. The file name after the comma is the file
> name that will be used to store the TLE data downloaded from the site
> specified in the URL before the comma. The file name after the comma less
> the file extension is what is used to identify the 'Web Data Source' in the
> setup function. It is possible to really screw things up if this is not
> done correctly so if you are not a very advanced computer user or do not
> thoroughly understand satellite tracking I recommend staying away from this
> entirely.
> ===========================================================
> 
> Be sure to click on the "Web Update" button after updating your
> WebDataSources.txt file.
> 
> If you follow the directions and it does not work the problem lies
> somewhere in your computer not the program.
> 
> Hope it works out ok for you.
> 
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone else here using this program?
>> 
>> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>> source.
>> When I do the program crashes.
>> 
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> --
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Sent from my computer.
> 
> tom ...
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From k8bl at ameritech.net  Sun Sep 25 02:58:20 2016
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 02:58:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <E60492B1-289F-46CB-BFF7-C4A3CF28B19D@tech-software.net>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@gmail.com>
	<5C462778-B169-475C-BFFA-F7DB1B5891D7@tech-software.net>
	<DDEE3E87-8166-40F4-8468-00B17589C41F@tech-software.net>
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	<E60492B1-289F-46CB-BFF7-C4A3CF28B19D@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <950908474.2444699.1474772300359@mail.yahoo.com>

Andrew.... Thanks for volunteering. ?Bob K8BL (ex-VK4BTL)

      From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
 To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> 
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com>
 Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 10:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
   
BTW

I have commercial web site training and I am fluent in HTML PHP MySQL CGI perl CMS WordPress

Andrew 

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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions. 
> 
> As stated on the website:
> 
> If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).? Due to the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations> (ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR Qualifications <http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US law.? Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at least modified.? If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
> 
> This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any AMSAT project without restriction.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> Sorry I can?t help you
> 
> Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
> 
> That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
> 
> Andrew
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> >
> > By the way
> >
> > My name is Andrew
> >
> > It would be a good start to get that right
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com <mailto:mccardelm at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com <mailto:spatrickfay at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> >>> up to date.? It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> >>> bringing this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"? with no date. I would just
> >>> call Martha.? ? ? Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.? I
> >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com <mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com <mailto:plaws0 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> >>>>> the store.? Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> >>>>> slowly.? I get it.? It's fine.? More time is needed and that's OK - no
> >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> >>>>> off the placeholder page?? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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From ku4os at cfl.rr.com  Sun Sep 25 03:37:08 2016
From: ku4os at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 23:37:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-269 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <aed19271-e3fc-107d-ddb2-e37bb398cc43@cfl.rr.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-269

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Planning Satellite Operations During the 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium
* Plan Ahead for New Years AMSAT CW Activity Day on the Satellites
* Chinese Space Station Visible
* Measuring Sky Angles With Your Hand
* Falcon 9 Static Fire Anomaly Update
* Satellite Shorts From All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-269.01
ANS-269 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 269.01
  From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE September 25, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-269.01


Planning Satellite Operations During the 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium

If you are attending the 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium at Sea, Carnival
Cruise Line policy allows amateur radio operation as specified in its
corporate policy. Please review the FAQs Restricted Items List.
For details see:

https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2261

So if you are planning to attend the Symposium and wish to bring radios
to operate, please remember that the Carnival Liberty is registered in
Panama. US licensed amateur operators wishing to operate at sea must
obtain an International Amateur Radio Permit (IARP) from the ARRL. A good
rule to apply is a minimum of 30-45 days in advance.
Details are available at the following site:

http://www.arrl.org/iarp

To file the permit you will need to provide the following:
1. Completed and Signed IARP Application Form for US Amateur Radio 
Operators
2. Photocopy of the applicant's US FCC Amateur license
3. Photocopy of the applicant's legal photo-ID
4. A 1.5x1.5 inch color or black/white Passport size photo of the Applicant
5. Application Fee payable to "ARRL VEC" by check, money order, or 
credit card

Submit applications and supporting documents to:
ARRL - VEC Department
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111 USA

Questions can be directed to:
(860)594-0300 (weekdays 8AM to 5PM ET)
or to
vec at arrl.org

Of all the application items, #4 seems to be the most difficult to obtain.
AMSAT Vice President, Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N0JY provided the 
suggestion.

Did you know that you can use the U.S Department of State website
to crop your own photo to use with the application?
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/photos/photos.html
Look on the right side of the page under "Already Have a Photo?"
It lets you pick a photo you have on your PC, and save it back to your
PC.  You can then print it to send with the application.
(Of course, you'll have to figure out how to get it 1.5 x 1.5 inches, I
used Word.)

A reminder that you would need a Reciprocal Permit issued by The 
Republic of
Mexico to operate in Mexico and operating from Mexican Islands is strictly
controlled.

http://www.arrl.org/reciprocal-permit

Obtaining can be a time consuming and expensive procedure for the one day
in port, see

http://www.qsl.net/oh2mcn/xe.htm
http://xe-permit.wd9ewk.net/

See you on-board or on the air!


(ANS thanks Joe Spier, K6WAO, AMSAT Vice President, Educational Relations
for the above information)


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Plan Ahead for New Years AMSAT CW Activity Day on the Satellites

Thanks to all who participated in AMSAT's Straight Key Night 2016, held in
memory of Ben Stevenson, W2BXA. For 25 years, AMSAT has sponsored SKN on
OSCAR, and it's been my pleasure to conduct this event.

  While Morse as a license qualification has gone the way of the spark 
gap, I
am pleased to see that amateur CW activity is as popular as ever. Straight
keys and "bugs", however, have found a niche primarily with the boat anchor
crowd, and AMSAT's insistence on their use in OSCAR SKN has held down
participation. Similar considerations have led ARRL to broaden its 
annual HF
event to include all forms of CW, even computer-generated. The idea is to
encourage everyone to enjoy CW operation, no matter how they choose to do
it. We agree 100%.
So, in with the new: AMSAT CW Activity Day.

As with the old SKN, it will be a fun event, not a contest, and will run 
for
24 hours on January 1, 2017 (UTC). All forms of CW are welcome. Since it is
not a contest, there is no required exchange. A QSO is a QSO. Working the
same station on more than one satellite is permitted.

Instead of submitting Best Fist nominations, all participants are asked to
post their results, including "Soapbox" comments, to AMSAT-BB. Please
include the satellites you used, and the number of CW QSOs you had on each.
While it is not necessary to post your full log, you may do so if you wish.

CU on CW!

[ANS thanks Ray Soifer, W2RS, for the above information]


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Chinese Space Station Visible

Two weeks ago, on Sept. 15th, China launched a new space station to 
Earth orbit:
Tiangong-2. The 10-meter long spacecraft is only a fraction the size of 
the ISS,
but there is room inside for two tiakonauts (Chinese astronauts) and 
plenty of
science experiments. And in dark skies, it can be seen with the naked 
eye. On
Sept. 20th, Kevin Fetter of Brockville, Ontario, Canada, video-recorded the
Tiangong-2 passing by the bright star Zeta Ophiuchi:

"At the time the space station was passing the star, its magnitude was 
near +5,"
estimates Fetter."It got into the 4th magnitude range just before it 
disappeared
into Earth's shadow. So it is a naked-eye object, albeit barely."

Tiangong-2 is the second of three prototype space stations China plans 
to launch
as the country builds toward a Mir-class outpost in the next decade.
Tiangong-2's predecessor, Tiangong-1, is still in orbit and expected to 
burn up
in Earth's atmosphere sometime in 2017.

Next month, China will launch a crew of two to inhabit the new space 
station for
approximately 30 days. While on board, they will test Tiangong-2's life 
support
system, and possibly conduct experiments in brain-machine interfacing, 
atomic
clock navigation, and quantum communications.

Ready to see for yourself? Tiangong-2 flyby predictions are available from
Heavens Above. "Use the Satellite Database and search for object '41765' 
labeled
'OBJECT A,'" advises Fetter. "That's how to find it."

[ANS thanks Spaceweather.com for the above information]


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Measuring Sky Angles With Your Hand

Have you ever worked portable and wondered just how close you were 
holding your
antenna in reference to the necessary altitude and azimuth to be on 
target with
your satellite?

You can use your hands to measure degrees of the sky. There is a method 
common
in astronomy for measuring sky angles. Here?s how they describe it on 
One Minute
Astronomer:

"Your hands and fingers are a remarkably accurate (and convenient) 
measuring
tool. When you hold your hand at arm?s length, you can estimate angles like
this:

     Stretch your thumb and little finger as far from each other as you 
can. The
     span from tip to tip is about 25 degrees
     Do the same with your index finger and little finger. The span is 
15 degrees
     Clench your fist at arms length, and hold it with the back of your 
hand
     facing you. The width is 10 degrees
     Hold your three middle fingers together; they span about 5 degrees
     The width of your little finger at arm?s length is 1 degree."

http://oneminuteastronomer.com/860/measuring-sky/

See also
http://makezine.com/2016/09/16/measuring-tip-ruler/

[ANS thanks oneminuteastronomer.com and make zone.com for the above
information.]

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Falcon 9 Static Fire Anomaly Update

Three weeks ago, SpaceX experienced an anomaly at our Launch Complex 40 
(LC-40)
at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. This resulted in the loss of one of 
our
Falcon 9 rockets and its payload.

The Accident Investigation Team (AIT), composed of SpaceX, the FAA, 
NASA, the
U.S. Air Force, and industry experts, are currently scouring through
approximately 3,000 channels of engineering data along with video, audio 
and
imagery. The timeline of the event is extremely short ? from first signs 
of an
anomaly to loss of data is about 93 milliseconds or less than 1/10th of a
second. The majority of debris from the incident has been recovered,
photographed, labeled and catalogued, and is now in a hangar for 
inspection and
use during the investigation.

At this stage of the investigation, preliminary review of the data and 
debris
suggests that a large breach in the cryogenic helium system of the 
second stage
liquid oxygen tank took place. All plausible causes are being tracked in an
extensive fault tree and carefully investigated. Through the fault tree 
and data
review process, we have exonerated any connection with last year?s CRS-7 
mishap.

The teams have continued inspections of LC-40 and the surrounding 
facilities.
While substantial areas of the pad systems were affected, the Falcon 
Support
Building adjacent to the pad was unaffected, and per standard procedure was
unoccupied at the time of the anomaly. The new liquid oxygen farm ? e.g. 
the
tanks and plumbing that hold our super-chilled liquid oxygen ? was 
unaffected
and remains in good working order. The RP-1 (kerosene) fuel farm was also
largely unaffected. The pad?s control systems are also in relatively good
condition.

SpaceX?s other facilities, from the Payload Processing Facility at the 
Cape, to
the pad and hangar at LC-39A, are located several miles from LC-40 and were
unaffected as well. Work continues at Pad 39A in preparation for 
bringing it
online in November. The teams have been in contact with Cape Canaveral and
Kennedy Space Center partners and neighbors and have found no evidence 
of debris
leaving the immediate area of LC-40.

At SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, CA, manufacturing and production is
continuing in a methodical manner, with teams continuing to build engines,
tanks, and other systems as they are exonerated from the investigation. 
SpaceX
will work to resume our manifest as quickly as responsible once the 
cause of the
anomaly has been identified by the Accident Investigation Team. Pending the
results of the investigation, return to flight is anticipated as early 
as the
November timeframe.

[ANS thanks SpaceX for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ Bruce Paige, KK5DO, reported that Randy, WI7P (ex N7SFI) has been
uploading many of his old logs to LoTW. As a result, if you are a LoTW user
you might find credit for many of his grid operations. Randy was one of the
first ones to work satellites from a grid other than his home grid with 
more
than 100 grids. One time he was maritime mobile, kayaking on a river. He
also operated from the 2002 Winter Olympics in Park City Utah.

+ Damon, WA4FHN, and the Starcommgroup satellite operators club 
congratulate
Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV for earning the Got Grids Award #17. Please
go to http://www.starcommgroup.org for more about the Starcommgroup's free
awards to satellite operators

+ The KO4BB manual repository includes a fairly large list of downloadable
test equipment and ham radio manuals. See:
http://www.ko4bb.com/getsimple/index.php?id=manuals

+ Ckayton Coleman, W5PFG, will operate from the Blackstone River Valley 
National
Historical Park (NPOTA HP49) on Monday, September 26 in grid FN42.
    All times given are in UTC
    SO-50    20:36 - 20:48
    XW-2F    21:46 - 21:53
    XW-2C    21:53 - 21:59
    SO-50    22:19 - 22:28 (possibly)



/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KU4OS
ku4os at amsat dot org




From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 04:54:31 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 14:54:31 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <950908474.2444699.1474772300359@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <D20423BF-0C73-4120-A2E4-914D56A49C96@tech-software.net>

No worries Bob

I can remember working MIR on a commodore c64 and a hand held

Satellites hold a special place in my heart for some reason

A



-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:58, R.T.Liddy <k8bl at ameritech.net> wrote:
> 
> Andrew.... Thanks for volunteering.  Bob K8BL (ex-VK4BTL)
> 
> 
> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> 
> Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 10:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
> 
> BTW
> 
> I have commercial web site training and I am fluent in HTML PHP MySQL CGI perl CMS WordPress
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions. 
> > 
> > As stated on the website:
> > 
> > If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).  Due to the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations> (ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR Qualifications <http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US law.  Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at least modified.  If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
> > 
> > This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any AMSAT project without restriction.
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > Paul, N8HM
> > 
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> > Sorry I can?t help you
> > 
> > Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
> > 
> > That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > By the way
> > >
> > > My name is Andrew
> > >
> > > It would be a good start to get that right
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > > m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com <mailto:mccardelm at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> > >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> > >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> > >>
> > >> EMike
> > >>
> > >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> > >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com <mailto:spatrickfay at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> > >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> > >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> > >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> > >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> > >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> > >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> > >>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> > >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> > >>> bringing this up.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> > >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> > >>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> > >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com <mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Peter,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> > >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com <mailto:plaws0 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > >>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> > >>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> > >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> > >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> > >>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > >>>>> something.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > >>>> Opinions
> > >>>>> expressed
> > >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > >>>>> AMSAT-NA.
> > >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > >>>> program!
> > >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > >>>> expressed
> > >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> 
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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> 

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 05:05:36 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:05:36 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Web site
Message-ID: <F7B56E93-0889-42B0-88F5-0E23B76AC312@tech-software.net>

Hello

My name is Andrew rich

I have been a licences ham since my teens

I have been involved in every aspect of ham radio except balloon launches

My commercial back ground is 

Web page design
Manual writing
Teaching
Electronics store manager
Telecom carrier tech specialist
Radar and ATC tech specialist

My hobbies are wide and varied

Web site design
Web hosting
Programming
Micro controller programming
Linux programming
Software defined radio 
Satellites
Aviation listening voice and data
ADSB 
Satellite ground stations
PCB manufacture
Circuit design
Antenna building
Drone operations
ATV
SSTV
Digital modes
APRS
Helping my dad run aviation conferences
Publicity officer radio club
Perl programming
Online interactive satellite pages

I would be honoured to help amsat

Andrew



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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 05:11:53 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:11:53 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <c1d3045c-12f9-308f-a614-e6032a60fedc@amsat.org>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<428616946.283320.1474765742724@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAEWsTrOp7LkvVZgUpRjr4PcBi8OvZ-MBCT-k1Pu5B+50XBTE_A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrHJd7g6yZ94OXetG6c48MvqpOCs61GKKAhX02gtYnt1A@mail.gmail.com>
	<DC067BCD-AF7C-421B-B035-F965D4158589@tech-software.net>
	<c1d3045c-12f9-308f-a614-e6032a60fedc@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <7A3E9CBE-65FE-4894-9D45-251ED1D621B8@tech-software.net>

That's always the way Jerry you have to see past it

My wife volunteers for the cats and dogs 

For her

Andrew

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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:40, Jerry Buxton <n0jy at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, volunteering is volunteering.  We get an occasional pat on the
> back, if we can reach behind us that far.     ;-)
> 
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
> 
>> On 9/24/2016 21:14, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> How much is an AMSAT membership ?
>> 
>> Can I get one in return for doing the web pages
>> 
>> Andrew 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
>>> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
>>> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
>>> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
>>> IT person either.
>>> 
>>> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
>>> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
>>> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
>>> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>>> Secretary
>>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>>>> 
>>>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>>>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The website is not up to date.
>>>> 
>>>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>>>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>>>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>>>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>>>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>>>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>>>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>>>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
>>>> advocacy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>>>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>>>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>>>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>>>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>>>> you quit looking at it?"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
>>>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>>>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>>>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> QUOTED
>>>> 
>>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>> 
>>>> 73...bruce
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>> bringing this up.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73...bruce
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>>>> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>>>> active
>>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>>>> look
>>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>>>> to
>>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>>>> never
>>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>>>> the
>>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>>>> website
>>>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>>> bringing this up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>>>> happens
>>>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>>>> no
>>>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>>>> store,
>>>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>>>> past,
>>>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available
>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>> program!
>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
>>>> listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From simon at sdr-radio.com  Sun Sep 25 05:57:00 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 06:57:00 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <CE212BF9-6D68-452A-A5DF-75E591636116@tech-software.net>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
	<005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
	<625CD1C7-1710-46F5-A39B-C5225660BF16@tech-software.net>
	<C26F1A68-FC8B-4277-A893-D3EF0A26915B@mrstevens.net>
	<007801d2167e$ee708e90$cb51abb0$@sdr-radio.com>
	<CE212BF9-6D68-452A-A5DF-75E591636116@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <001701d216f1$a1f9d580$e5ed8080$@sdr-radio.com>

Andrew,

Rotator controller: DDE is provided for your client such as PST Rotator.
Doppler shift: Yes, for both the SDR (of course) and an external radio used
for transmit (TS-2000, IC-910, FT-991 ...).
Satellite priority: You select the passes you are interested in for the next
96 hours.

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Rich [mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net] 
Sent: 25 September 2016 03:52
To: Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com>
Cc: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station

Simon

Rotator controller Doppler shift and satellite priority ?

Andrew 

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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 02:15, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
> 
> Matthew,
> 
> Yes - it is quite some project but I've broken the back of it and 
> tomorrow / early next week will be transmitting with my FT-991 and 
> receiving with the Airspy, all controlled via one software package.
> 
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Stevens
> Sent: 24 September 2016 12:51
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
> 
> Wow, looks like quite a project! That will be really nice to have 
> everything in one package.
> 
> The SDRplay is 12 bit, I believe. Right now I'm going to keep 
> everything simple as I can. Don't have a place to mount a rotator/array
anyways.
> 
> - Matthew KK4FEM
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 07:36, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Yep
>> 
>> + RTL SDR
>> + AirSpy Mini
>> + LimeSDR
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> But,
>>> 
>>> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The 
>>> AirSpy Mini (the AirSpy dongle flavour) 
>>> https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much better option, 
>>> especially
> with the latest software support in SDR#.
>>> 
>>> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
>>> http://sdr-satellites.com/
>>> 
>>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>>> http://sdr-radio.com
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Andrew Rich
>>> 
>>> RTL SDR dongle
>>> 
>>> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
>>> 
>>> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown 
>>> rotator controlled and radio station
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum 
>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not 
>>> reflect the
> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
>>> Subscription settings: 
>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect 
>> the
> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect 
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 06:33:52 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:33:52 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <001701d216f1$a1f9d580$e5ed8080$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
	<005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
	<625CD1C7-1710-46F5-A39B-C5225660BF16@tech-software.net>
	<C26F1A68-FC8B-4277-A893-D3EF0A26915B@mrstevens.net>
	<007801d2167e$ee708e90$cb51abb0$@sdr-radio.com>
	<CE212BF9-6D68-452A-A5DF-75E591636116@tech-software.net>
	<001701d216f1$a1f9d580$e5ed8080$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <BE4F3483-06B9-4443-BBBC-1A4C84706D53@tech-software.net>

Very nice

Andrew

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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 15:57, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> Rotator controller: DDE is provided for your client such as PST Rotator.
> Doppler shift: Yes, for both the SDR (of course) and an external radio used
> for transmit (TS-2000, IC-910, FT-991 ...).
> Satellite priority: You select the passes you are interested in for the next
> 96 hours.
> 
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Rich [mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net] 
> Sent: 25 September 2016 03:52
> To: Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com>
> Cc: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
> 
> Simon
> 
> Rotator controller Doppler shift and satellite priority ?
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net
> m 0419 738 223
> 
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 02:15, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Matthew,
>> 
>> Yes - it is quite some project but I've broken the back of it and 
>> tomorrow / early next week will be transmitting with my FT-991 and 
>> receiving with the Airspy, all controlled via one software package.
>> 
>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>> http://sdr-radio.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Matthew Stevens
>> Sent: 24 September 2016 12:51
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
>> 
>> Wow, looks like quite a project! That will be really nice to have 
>> everything in one package.
>> 
>> The SDRplay is 12 bit, I believe. Right now I'm going to keep 
>> everything simple as I can. Don't have a place to mount a rotator/array
> anyways.
>> 
>> - Matthew KK4FEM
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 07:36, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep
>>> 
>>> + RTL SDR
>>> + AirSpy Mini
>>> + LimeSDR
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>>> w www.tech-software.net
>>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> But,
>>>> 
>>>> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The 
>>>> AirSpy Mini (the AirSpy dongle flavour) 
>>>> https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much better option, 
>>>> especially
>> with the latest software support in SDR#.
>>>> 
>>>> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
>>>> http://sdr-satellites.com/
>>>> 
>>>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>>>> http://sdr-radio.com
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Andrew Rich
>>>> 
>>>> RTL SDR dongle
>>>> 
>>>> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
>>>> 
>>>> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown 
>>>> rotator controlled and radio station
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum 
>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not 
>>>> reflect the
>> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect 
>>> the
>> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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>> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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> official views of AMSAT-NA.
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> 


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 08:56:31 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:56:31 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
In-Reply-To: <CE212BF9-6D68-452A-A5DF-75E591636116@tech-software.net>
References: <CAN8zKtTVrwr4-QnviEw+i5qHy5O3FHusQJqaG=AakT5wk7UbEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<F8CA176C-AC9E-40D9-9AB7-DF605C819B4B@tech-software.net>
	<005601d21656$ec35e800$c4a1b800$@sdr-radio.com>
	<625CD1C7-1710-46F5-A39B-C5225660BF16@tech-software.net>
	<C26F1A68-FC8B-4277-A893-D3EF0A26915B@mrstevens.net>
	<007801d2167e$ee708e90$cb51abb0$@sdr-radio.com>
	<CE212BF9-6D68-452A-A5DF-75E591636116@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <CE730E81-69CC-4CB8-898B-AF5E7C26E32E@tech-software.net>

A bit confused 

Is this web site a club or company ?

Andre w

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:52 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> Simon
> 
> Rotator controller Doppler shift and satellite priority ?
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net
> m 0419 738 223
> 
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 02:15, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Matthew,
>> 
>> Yes - it is quite some project but I've broken the back of it and tomorrow /
>> early next week will be transmitting with my FT-991 and receiving with the
>> Airspy, all controlled via one software package.
>> 
>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>> http://sdr-radio.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>> Stevens
>> Sent: 24 September 2016 12:51
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
>> 
>> Wow, looks like quite a project! That will be really nice to have everything
>> in one package.
>> 
>> The SDRplay is 12 bit, I believe. Right now I'm going to keep everything
>> simple as I can. Don't have a place to mount a rotator/array anyways.
>> 
>> - Matthew KK4FEM
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 07:36, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep
>>> 
>>> + RTL SDR
>>> + AirSpy Mini
>>> + LimeSDR
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>>> w www.tech-software.net
>>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> But,
>>>> 
>>>> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The 
>>>> AirSpy Mini (the AirSpy dongle flavour) 
>>>> https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much better option, especially
>> with the latest software support in SDR#.
>>>> 
>>>> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
>>>> http://sdr-satellites.com/
>>>> 
>>>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>>>> http://sdr-radio.com
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Andrew Rich
>>>> 
>>>> RTL SDR dongle
>>>> 
>>>> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
>>>> 
>>>> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown 
>>>> rotator controlled and radio station
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
>> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
>> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
>> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 09:07:13 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:07:13 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C41C1BF-ECB8-403B-8A46-C9BC47815C84@tech-software.net>

Most definitely I see perfection in the satellites only to be let down by a website

Sell yourselves 

-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223

> On 25 Sep 2016, at 10:38, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> bringing this up.
> 
> 
> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>> 
>> Dave-KB1PVH
>> 
>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>> 
>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>> 
>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>> something.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Sep 25 09:55:03 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:55:03 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio Patch
Message-ID: <B886D489-5F1A-4716-B69F-78AD824759A6@tech-software.net>

Hello

I am enjoying using the SDR and I want to make an audio patch panel

Does anyone use one - to send audio to other PC?s ?

Impedance ?

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec at tech-software.net







From mr.soup12 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 11:49:36 2016
From: mr.soup12 at gmail.com (Oliver Krystal)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 06:49:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
In-Reply-To: <9C41C1BF-ECB8-403B-8A46-C9BC47815C84@tech-software.net>
References: <CANVAiQ8bBs56oM+u8A7Ua0gE3KBR_-igxcT2NAuE9Tf-5cqV3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMY9FcGjR1J48fejQYh8srze-keoWE8gLrwJyAJQ=WhhgCN9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEWsTrMyNL4BWxueWR4N0rVk9dmFx6maR+cKC4XvXhmXqx7qBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9C41C1BF-ECB8-403B-8A46-C9BC47815C84@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <ff0fc9a8-12cd-a4ae-18e2-0b46cf071753@gmail.com>

It would be nice if outdated pages are marked as such.  This has been 
voiced before.

However, I do not have the time to offer to fix such things so I hold my 
tongue.  I prefer only to criticize if I have a suggestion and the 
ability to make such things better.

If the state of the website offends you so, why not ask how you can help 
to make it better?

On 09/25/2016 04:07 AM, Andrew Rich wrote:
> Most definitely I see perfection in the satellites only to be let down by a website
>
> Sell yourselves
>
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net
> m 0419 738 223
>
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 10:38, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>> bringing this up.
>>
>>
>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>
>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>
>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>
>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>
>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Sep 25 12:03:29 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:03:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AlSat-1N and Pratham launch Monday
References: <1585163628.8047456.1474805009707.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1585163628.8047456.1474805009707@mail.yahoo.com>

AlSat-1N and Pratham launch on the Indian ISRO PSLV-C35 mission planned for 0342 GMT on Monday, September 26, 2016, reports are requested.

AlSat-1N Algerian Student and Surrey Space Centre CubeSat - with satellite messages spreadsheet
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/24/alsat-1n-pratham-launch/

Pratham student satellite? 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/07/pratham-student-satellite/

Amateur Space Communication Talks at RSGB Convention
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/09/amateur-space-comms-rsgbconv2016/


73 Trevor M5AKA
----
AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/
Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK
Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK
YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK
----

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Sep 25 13:31:18 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 09:31:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA Activation of DZ05 - 1742Z FO-29 Pass
Message-ID: <CABzOSOo4wUhvuUBYXE_QA-OuNibV3Xa4WRpQwsurPw_cniWe9A@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning,

I am planning to walk to Benjamin Banneker Park just down the street from
me for the 1742Z pass of FO-29, which covers all of North America. Benjamin
Banneker Park is owned and administered by the National Park Service as
part of the National Capital Parks system, designated as DZ05 for the ARRL
NPOTA event.

Look for me around 435.865 MHz +/- Doppler.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From pconver at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 15:48:07 2016
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:48:07 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] AlSat-1N and Pratham launch Monday
In-Reply-To: <1585163628.8047456.1474805009707@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1585163628.8047456.1474805009707.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1585163628.8047456.1474805009707@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqK=C6zk27DnS==sQMshqEgmCgdFO2O+pXHZosNyugDgU6A@mail.gmail.com>

Due reports are requested for AlSat-1N and Pratham launch 0342 GMT on
Monday, September 26, 2016.

Estimated passes, frequencies and TLEs for first captures are available at:

http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm

Good Luck to designers and Good hunting for catchers !

73, LU7ABF, Pedro Converso

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 9:03 AM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> AlSat-1N and Pratham launch on the Indian ISRO PSLV-C35 mission planned for 0342 GMT on Monday, September 26, 2016, reports are requested.
>
> AlSat-1N Algerian Student and Surrey Space Centre CubeSat - with satellite messages spreadsheet
> https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/24/alsat-1n-pratham-launch/
>
> Pratham student satellite
> https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/07/pratham-student-satellite/
>
> Amateur Space Communication Talks at RSGB Convention
> https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/09/amateur-space-comms-rsgbconv2016/
>
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> ----
> AMSAT-UK http://amsat-uk.org/
> Twitter https://twitter.com/AmsatUK
> Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK
> YouTube https://youtube.com/AmsatUK
> ----
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Sep 25 18:55:53 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:55:53 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA Activation of DZ05 - 1742Z FO-29 Pass
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOo4wUhvuUBYXE_QA-OuNibV3Xa4WRpQwsurPw_cniWe9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOo4wUhvuUBYXE_QA-OuNibV3Xa4WRpQwsurPw_cniWe9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcR6XCbnGMNASoGs=CdtGB5iRp0uHZ+fWx8F8B11t8mhg@mail.gmail.com>

Paul,

Thanks for putting another Washington-area NPOTA site on the satellites
this morning/afternoon! You were pretty close to that spot on the FO-29
transponder, and easy to hear. I heard you work KO4MA just before I made
my call. After you worked me, I counted 13 more QSOs before LOS
for me - and probably you, too. Did you work others before I heard you
work Drew? This was another NPOTA activation done on one satellite
pass, and you weren't on an FM pass. Great job!

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK



On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I am planning to walk to Benjamin Banneker Park just down the street from
> me for the 1742Z pass of FO-29, which covers all of North America. Benjamin
> Banneker Park is owned and administered by the National Park Service as
> part of the National Capital Parks system, designated as DZ05 for the ARRL
> NPOTA event.
>
> Look for me around 435.865 MHz +/- Doppler.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>

From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 19:14:47 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 00:44:47 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALRS4DwAxQ8+m20f_1JPkF=4ZqSxKSxoE-0SMWbD9Drjm0mnZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
 Following are the updated TLE's for Pratham, please note the identifiers
of the satellite are not yet given to us and thus we are using 9's to
represent these.

1 99999U 16005A   16270.24771944  .00000309  00000-0  60459-4 0  1230

2 99999  98.2054 327.7996 0032663 268.5424   8.4450 14.62664773    17



On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Sir,
>
> We would like to post about the launch and telemetry details on the amsat
> India group. I have applied for membership but it has not been approved
> yet. Would it be possible for you to post the above mail on the amsat India
> group? Or if my membership gets approved I will be able to post myself.
>
> Thank you,
> Aayush
> Communication sub-system, Pratham
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> We are glad to inform you that Pratham, IITB's Student Satellite is
>> expected to launch with the help of PSLV-C35 on 26th September, 2016 at
>> 9:12 AM.
>> ??
>> The following are the TLE data for the satellite:
>>
>> 16005A      16270.25119097     0.00000311       00000-0     59418-4     0
>>    1232
>> 98.2057    329.0542    0028038    267.7677   9.1998   14.63716875    11
>>
>> Any update in these will be notified at the earliest. We would love you
>> all to be a part of the project and help us in tracking our satellite.
>> There are basically two downlink for the satellite, The beacon is
>> estimated to switch on in the window of 25-30 degrees North and 4-8 degrees
>> East as per the current TLE's. Once switched on, it will remain so through
>> out it's orbit. The telemetry data will be switched on only over France and
>> India because of our power constraints. If you could, please receive the
>> beacon and/or telemetry of the satellite and report back to the mail id's
>> as given below. The information for the satellite transmissions is given
>> below,
>>
>> Beacon:
>> Frequency: 145.98 MHz
>> Modulation: CW
>> Words per minute: 30
>> Power Emitted: 0.2 W (23 dBm)
>>
>> Telemetry:
>> To be switched on only over India and France
>> Modulation: FSK
>> Rate: 1200 bps
>> Power Emitted: 0.06 W (18 dBm)
>>
>> For any other Information you may visit our website
>> <http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/pratham/>. Also feel free to contact our
>> Communication and Ground station team, (Rachana Agarwal,
>> rachna.agrawal.04 at gmail.com; and Aayush Yadav, aayushyadav825 at gmail.com)
>> for any queries you may have.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your wishes.
>>>
>>> The FSK downlink contains only the health monitoring data of the
>>> satellite and is used for payload calculations. IPGP university in france
>>> requested us for the payload data for their scientific research thus we are
>>> switching on the telemetry only over India and France.
>>>
>>> However the CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be
>>> received from anywhere.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Team Pratham
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday 8 September 2016, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Team Pratham,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and
>>>> deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on 437.455
>>>> Mhz is activated over France and India.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>>>> Secretary, AMSAT INDIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>>>>
>>>> Greetings everyone,
>>>>
>>>> We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
>>>> Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week
>>>> of
>>>> September. We would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving
>>>> our
>>>> satellite's beacon, details given below:
>>>>
>>>> Beacon:
>>>> Mode: CW
>>>> wpm: 35 words
>>>> Frequency: 145.980 MHz
>>>>
>>>> Downlink:
>>>> Mode: FSK
>>>> Baudrate: 1200 bps
>>>> Frequency: 437.455 MHz
>>>> (To be switched on over France and India only)
>>>>
>>>> We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards.
>>>> Team Pratham
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

From rjlawn at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 19:15:37 2016
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:15:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-857D and Satpc32
Message-ID: <CADQmrTFdsKurJ7Yu4dNSGrXSfjwADpA_Q-NUWnHPLpCTfP+P3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone know if this Yaesu rig is compatible with satpc32 and is using one
for it for one aspect of satellite communication, either uplink or down
link?

Rick, W2JAZ


-- 
Sent from Gmail Mobile

From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 21:05:07 2016
From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:05:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-857D and Satpc32
In-Reply-To: <CADQmrTFdsKurJ7Yu4dNSGrXSfjwADpA_Q-NUWnHPLpCTfP+P3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTFdsKurJ7Yu4dNSGrXSfjwADpA_Q-NUWnHPLpCTfP+P3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJJyj=ZOumNj4YtqtU0qHN-NrPPJ9FKzOqontAkWmouofhx+9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Definitely compatible.
I use 2 for full duplex.
Rolf. NR0T

On Sep 25, 2016 2:17 PM, "Richard Lawn" <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone know if this Yaesu rig is compatible with satpc32 and is using one
> for it for one aspect of satellite communication, either uplink or down
> link?
>
> Rick, W2JAZ
>
>
> --
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From chad.kg0mw at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 22:31:29 2016
From: chad.kg0mw at gmail.com (Chad Phillips)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 17:31:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
Message-ID: <A7A29F81-53C6-4409-9C55-E346044EA61A@gmail.com>

Just made first sat contacts in 15 years on SO-50. Thanks to nx9b, np4jv and nj7h. The adrenaline has officially kicked in...

Chad
Kg0mw
En-13


Sent from my iPhone

From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 22:46:49 2016
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:46:49 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <A7A29F81-53C6-4409-9C55-E346044EA61A@gmail.com>
References: <A7A29F81-53C6-4409-9C55-E346044EA61A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHXx8iMis_HW0U9RjJvrnVJgJ6c_-DSEF41anJE=AqsB4LhXg@mail.gmail.com>

Glad to work you, even though that was a messy pass. I will upload the
contacts to LoTW and get a QSL card ready for you tonight.

Welcome back!

Fernando, NP4JV
DM41

On Sep 25, 2016 3:42 PM, "Chad Phillips" <chad.kg0mw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just made first sat contacts in 15 years on SO-50. Thanks to nx9b, np4jv
> and nj7h. The adrenaline has officially kicked in...
>
> Chad
> Kg0mw
> En-13
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From bryan at kl7cn.net  Sun Sep 25 22:47:12 2016
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:47:12 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <A7A29F81-53C6-4409-9C55-E346044EA61A@gmail.com>
References: <A7A29F81-53C6-4409-9C55-E346044EA61A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B5675E67-FA8C-42AC-AE6D-EAA5571C08DB@kl7cn.net>

Well done, Chad!

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
bryan at kl7cn.net
CM98, usually

On Sep 25, 2016, at 15:31, Chad Phillips <chad.kg0mw at gmail.com> wrote:

Just made first sat contacts in 15 years on SO-50. Thanks to nx9b, np4jv and nj7h. The adrenaline has officially kicked in...

Chad
Kg0mw
En-13


Sent from my iPhone
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From k9jkm at comcast.net  Sun Sep 25 23:22:13 2016
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:22:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <A7A29F81-53C6-4409-9C55-E346044EA61A@gmail.com>
References: <A7A29F81-53C6-4409-9C55-E346044EA61A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003501d21783$a5afc440$f10f4cc0$@net>

Congratulations! ... looking forward to more good news on actually operating
satellites. (instead of obsessing on web pages not updated per personal
agendas). Folks, this list was created for sharing good news like this :-)

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org



From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Sep 25 23:27:45 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:27:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NPOTA Activation of DZ05 - 1742Z FO-29 Pass
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUcR6XCbnGMNASoGs=CdtGB5iRp0uHZ+fWx8F8B11t8mhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOo4wUhvuUBYXE_QA-OuNibV3Xa4WRpQwsurPw_cniWe9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUcR6XCbnGMNASoGs=CdtGB5iRp0uHZ+fWx8F8B11t8mhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrS0x8R1WRMtwFekQqanP+-LfrK+OPvfJQJk-oFGO+ARg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Patrick. Glad to get that one in your log. That was my 9th
NPOTA activation of the year. I hope to get several more done before
23:59 UTC on December 31, 2016. I've set a goal of 25, but not all
will be on satellite.

Since I generally walk to these sites, satellite activating can
actually be a bit more of a challenge than my HF activations. I hope
to do a few more before the end of the year.

DZ05 (National Capital Parks - a catch-all for random NPS land in the
National Capital Region) and DZ06 (the National Mall) are both just
short walks from my apartment, so I hope to at least get those on the
satellites again and possibly do an FM pass or two as well. The Arrow
may draw a bit too much attention to myself at some of the other
units. With HF, I'm just sitting on the ground with a small magnetic
loop, not pointing at things with a weird looking device!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
<amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Thanks for putting another Washington-area NPOTA site on the satellites
> this morning/afternoon! You were pretty close to that spot on the FO-29
> transponder, and easy to hear. I heard you work KO4MA just before I made
> my call. After you worked me, I counted 13 more QSOs before LOS
> for me - and probably you, too. Did you work others before I heard you
> work Drew? This was another NPOTA activation done on one satellite
> pass, and you weren't on an FM pass. Great job!
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I am planning to walk to Benjamin Banneker Park just down the street from
>> me for the 1742Z pass of FO-29, which covers all of North America. Benjamin
>> Banneker Park is owned and administered by the National Park Service as
>> part of the National Capital Parks system, designated as DZ05 for the ARRL
>> NPOTA event.
>>
>> Look for me around 435.865 MHz +/- Doppler.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From kb2m at arrl.net  Sun Sep 25 23:34:55 2016
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:34:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-857D and Satpc32
In-Reply-To: <CADQmrTFdsKurJ7Yu4dNSGrXSfjwADpA_Q-NUWnHPLpCTfP+P3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTFdsKurJ7Yu4dNSGrXSfjwADpA_Q-NUWnHPLpCTfP+P3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03ae01d21785$6c527c40$44f774c0$@net>

Hi Rich, years ago I used an FT-897 for the uplink with a FT-817 for a
little more oomph while running sat portable. As the FT-897 and the FT-857
share the same interface, you should be good to go...

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Richard Lawn
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 3:16 PM
To: Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-857D and Satpc32

Anyone know if this Yaesu rig is compatible with satpc32 and is using one
for it for one aspect of satellite communication, either uplink or down
link?

Rick, W2JAZ




From k.alexander at rogers.com  Mon Sep 26 02:46:05 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 22:46:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Last Morning in EO91
Message-ID: <r5sel1tra009wgpcxeib8dak.1474857965927@email.android.com>

Monday morning will be the last time I am on from Moosonee before taking the train out at 5:00 pm (2100 utc).? I'm going to hit the satellites hard, with 10 scheduled passes as follows:

1213 - XW-2A,
1240 - XW-2C,
1324 - FO29,
1343 - AO7,
1505 - FO29,
1533 - AO7,
1649 - FO29,
1720 - AO7,
1837 - FO29,
1909 - AO7

I will be on all of these passes as long as there is demand.? Once I go one or two passes with no QSOs I'll shut down and pack up.? I understand this might happen because the weekend is over and everyone is back to school or work tomorrow.

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS

From va6bmj at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 03:17:27 2016
From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 03:17:27 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] UPSat Delivered
Message-ID: <CAP7QzkMa=BLccSMwjHG0rg+8XK7EiFm+zeL-2jqXm1A3NJRpKw@mail.gmail.com>

https://upsat.gr/?p=344

Frequency information is at:

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/qb50sats.htm

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL

From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 07:19:20 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:49:20 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

Following are the final TLE's for Pratham, Beacon is expected to switch on
around 16:30 Hrs IST and we request you all to join us in tracking the
satellite beacon.

Thanking you.
Team Pratham.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in> wrote:

> Hi Aayush,
>
> I have approved all pending memberships. Let me know if you still unable
> to post. Congratulations !!on the successful launch and wishing the Pratham
> team a successful deployment of the satellite.
>
> 73
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>
> *Cc:* Mani VU2 WMY <wmy at isac.gov.in>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 September 2016 4:21 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>
> Hello Sir,
>
> We would like to post about the launch and telemetry details on the amsat
> India group. I have applied for membership but it has not been approved
> yet. Would it be possible for you to post the above mail on the amsat India
> group? Or if my membership gets approved I will be able to post myself.
>
> Thank you,
> Aayush
> Communication sub-system, Pratham
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> We are glad to inform you that Pratham, IITB's Student Satellite is
> expected to launch with the help of PSLV-C35 on 26th September, 2016 at
> 9:12 AM.
> ??
> The following are the TLE data for the satellite:
>
> 16005A      16270.25119097     0.00000311       00000-0     59418-4     0
>    1232
> 98.2057    329.0542    0028038    267.7677   9.1998   14.63716875    11
>
> Any update in these will be notified at the earliest. We would love you
> all to be a part of the project and help us in tracking our satellite.
> There are basically two downlink for the satellite, The beacon is
> estimated to switch on in the window of 25-30 degrees North and 4-8 degrees
> East as per the current TLE's. Once switched on, it will remain so through
> out it's orbit. The telemetry data will be switched on only over France and
> India because of our power constraints. If you could, please receive the
> beacon and/or telemetry of the satellite and report back to the mail id's
> as given below. The information for the satellite transmissions is given
> below,
>
> Beacon:
> Frequency: 145.98 MHz
> Modulation: CW
> Words per minute: 30
> Power Emitted: 0.2 W (23 dBm)
>
> Telemetry:
> To be switched on only over India and France
> Modulation: FSK
> Rate: 1200 bps
> Power Emitted: 0.06 W (18 dBm)
>
> For any other Information you may visit our website
> <http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/pratham/>. Also feel free to contact our
> Communication and Ground station team, (Rachana Agarwal,
> rachna.agrawal.04 at gmail.com; and Aayush Yadav, aayushyadav825 at gmail.com)
> for any queries you may have.
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your wishes.
>
> The FSK downlink contains only the health monitoring data of the satellite
> and is used for payload calculations. IPGP university in france requested
> us for the payload data for their scientific research thus we are switching
> on the telemetry only over India and France.
>
> However the CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be received
> from anywhere.
>
> Kind regards,
> Team Pratham
>
>
> On Thursday 8 September 2016, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> Hi Team Pratham,
>
> Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and
> deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on 437.455
> Mhz is activated over France and India.
>
> 73
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
> Secretary, AMSAT INDIA
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
> *To:* "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
> Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of
> September. We would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving our
> satellite's beacon, details given below:
>
> Beacon:
> Mode: CW
> wpm: 35 words
> Frequency: 145.980 MHz
>
> Downlink:
> Mode: FSK
> Baudrate: 1200 bps
> Frequency: 437.455 MHz
> (To be switched on over France and India only)
>
> We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.
>
> Kind Regards.
> Team Pratham
> ______________________________ _________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/l istinfo/amsat-bb
> <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 07:21:11 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:51:11 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello all,

Following are the final TLE's for Pratham, Beacon is expected to switch on
around 16:30 Hrs IST and we request you all to join us in tracking the
satellite beacon

PRATHAM
1 99999U 16005A   16270.24769735  .00000368  00000-0  70534-4 0  1235

2 99999 98.2056 327.8012 0027951 267.5222 9.4278 14.63691895 13.

Thanking you.
Team Pratham.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Following are the final TLE's for Pratham, Beacon is expected to switch on
> around 16:30 Hrs IST and we request you all to join us in tracking the
> satellite beacon.
>
> Thanking you.
> Team Pratham.
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>> Hi Aayush,
>>
>> I have approved all pending memberships. Let me know if you still unable
>> to post. Congratulations !!on the successful launch and wishing the Pratham
>> team a successful deployment of the satellite.
>>
>> 73
>> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>
>> *Cc:* Mani VU2 WMY <wmy at isac.gov.in>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 September 2016 4:21 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>>
>> Hello Sir,
>>
>> We would like to post about the launch and telemetry details on the amsat
>> India group. I have applied for membership but it has not been approved
>> yet. Would it be possible for you to post the above mail on the amsat India
>> group? Or if my membership gets approved I will be able to post myself.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Aayush
>> Communication sub-system, Pratham
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> We are glad to inform you that Pratham, IITB's Student Satellite is
>> expected to launch with the help of PSLV-C35 on 26th September, 2016 at
>> 9:12 AM.
>> ??
>> The following are the TLE data for the satellite:
>>
>> 16005A      16270.25119097     0.00000311       00000-0     59418-4     0
>>    1232
>> 98.2057    329.0542    0028038    267.7677   9.1998   14.63716875    11
>>
>> Any update in these will be notified at the earliest. We would love you
>> all to be a part of the project and help us in tracking our satellite.
>> There are basically two downlink for the satellite, The beacon is
>> estimated to switch on in the window of 25-30 degrees North and 4-8 degrees
>> East as per the current TLE's. Once switched on, it will remain so through
>> out it's orbit. The telemetry data will be switched on only over France and
>> India because of our power constraints. If you could, please receive the
>> beacon and/or telemetry of the satellite and report back to the mail id's
>> as given below. The information for the satellite transmissions is given
>> below,
>>
>> Beacon:
>> Frequency: 145.98 MHz
>> Modulation: CW
>> Words per minute: 30
>> Power Emitted: 0.2 W (23 dBm)
>>
>> Telemetry:
>> To be switched on only over India and France
>> Modulation: FSK
>> Rate: 1200 bps
>> Power Emitted: 0.06 W (18 dBm)
>>
>> For any other Information you may visit our website
>> <http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/pratham/>. Also feel free to contact our
>> Communication and Ground station team, (Rachana Agarwal,
>> rachna.agrawal.04 at gmail.com; and Aayush Yadav, aayushyadav825 at gmail.com)
>> for any queries you may have.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Thank you for your wishes.
>>
>> The FSK downlink contains only the health monitoring data of the
>> satellite and is used for payload calculations. IPGP university in france
>> requested us for the payload data for their scientific research thus we are
>> switching on the telemetry only over India and France.
>>
>> However the CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be
>> received from anywhere.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Team Pratham
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 8 September 2016, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Team Pratham,
>>
>> Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and
>> deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on 437.455
>> Mhz is activated over France and India.
>>
>> 73
>> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>> Secretary, AMSAT INDIA
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>> *To:* "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
>> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>>
>> Greetings everyone,
>>
>> We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
>> Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of
>> September. We would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving our
>> satellite's beacon, details given below:
>>
>> Beacon:
>> Mode: CW
>> wpm: 35 words
>> Frequency: 145.980 MHz
>>
>> Downlink:
>> Mode: FSK
>> Baudrate: 1200 bps
>> Frequency: 437.455 MHz
>> (To be switched on over France and India only)
>>
>> We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.
>>
>> Kind Regards.
>> Team Pratham
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From mikesprenger at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 21:52:32 2016
From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 17:52:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
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Go Chad Go !

I second what Joanne said. 

Have fun. 

Listen first. 

More QSOs get thru, when u listen first, plus:

A closed mouth gathers fewer feet....many folks are recording the pass for future replay for logging 

Don't be afraid, just careful.  

Have fun. 

Thanks,
Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 7:22 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Congratulations! ... looking forward to more good news on actually operating
> satellites. (instead of obsessing on web pages not updated per personal
> agendas). Folks, this list was created for sharing good news like this :-)
> 
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm at amsat.org
> 
> 
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Tue Sep 27 01:03:07 2016
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:03:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EL89 tomorrow
Message-ID: <2BB133C2-7FBE-4F35-9028-450AD9E20D88@mrstevens.net>

I know this isn't the rarest of grids, but I will be /p in EL89 tomorrow for work. I should be able to make the following passes:

AO85 at 1230z

FO29 at 1549z and 1734z (half duplex, transmitting on 145.930. Help me out---this will be my first time on the linears)

SO50 at 1915z (this ones a maybe, depending on what time I have to head back home).

Keep an eye on twitter.com/kk4fem_radio for updates.

- Matthew KK4FEM

Sent from my iPhone

From AJ9N at aol.com  Tue Sep 27 02:19:03 2016
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 22:19:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-27 03:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <98834.5f7f1cba.451b3117@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-09-27  03:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Yamanashi Gakuin J. H. School, Kofu, Japan, direct via  8J1YGJH 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled  astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS 
Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-10-01  08:11:36 UTC 31 deg 

Sekolah Kebangsaan Jalan Pasar 1, Kuala  Lumpur, Malaysia, direct via 9M2RPN
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled  to be OR4ISS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS  (***)
Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-10-06 18:24:00 UTC 46 deg  (***)

iSPACE, Cincinnati OH, telebridge via IK1SLD (***)
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is  Kate Rubins KG5FYJ (***)
Contact is a go for: Sat 2016-10-08 16:15:10 UTC 57  deg  (***)

****************************************************************************
**
Call  for Proposals
Proposal Window September 1 ? November 1, 2016  

The Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)  Program is 
seeking formal and informal education institutions and organizations,  
individually or working together, to host an Amateur Radio contact with a crew  
member on board the ISS.  ARISS anticipates that the contact would be held  
between July 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017. Crew scheduling and ISS orbits will 
 determine the exact contact dates. To maximize these radio contact  
opportunities, ARISS is looking for organizations that will draw large numbers  of 
participants and integrate the contact into a well-developed education 
plan.  

The deadline to submit a proposal is November 1, 2016.   Proposal 
information and documents can be found at  www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact.

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 121  
Francesco IK?WGF with  118

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date 
and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-09-27 03:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1084. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1049. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-09-16 06:00 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit 
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU 
Aleksey  Ovchinin

Exp. 48 on orbit
Anatoly Ivanishin 
Kate Rubins  KG5FYJ
Takuya Onishi  KF5LKS
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


From kk5do at arrl.net  Tue Sep 27 03:43:19 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 22:43:19 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
Message-ID: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>

It is never too early to begin preparing for field day. In fact, you 
might want to take a look at two pages. I updated the Field Day 
Statistics page (with 2016 numbers) and I created a new page with the 
results of Field Day 2016.

Both can be found by clicking on Events, Other Events and then Field Day

If there is interest, I can add the results of previous years. Let me 
know. I think I have them back to 2002.

Enjoy

73...bruce

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Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
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From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 27 13:36:45 2016
From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:36:45 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Celebrating 1 Year IO-86
Message-ID: <BF185D66-06E8-4EE5-992D-28C0F36CCA7F@yahoo.com>


To celebrate one year of IO-86, amateur payload on LAPAN A2/ORARI satellite , here is the schedule for tomorrow :

- date: 28 Sep 2016
- APRS on from 10:02 till 13:30 UTC
- FM repeater on from 13:30 till 15:30 UTC

All licensed amateurs are welcome to use,

73 de Yono - YD0NXX



Sent from my iPhone SE



From wmy at isac.gov.in  Tue Sep 27 15:13:46 2016
From: wmy at isac.gov.in (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS])
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:43:46 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Celebrating 1 Year IO-86
In-Reply-To: <BF185D66-06E8-4EE5-992D-28C0F36CCA7F@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20160927151001.54C81953F@lansing182.amsat.org>

  Dear Yono,

Congratulations on the successful completion of one year of LAPAN A2/ORARI
in orbit. We also take pleasure in celebrating successful completion of one
year of ASTROSAT in orbit along with NLS-14 and four LEMUR nanosats of
PSLV-C30 Mission.

Wishing all the satellites of PSLV-C30 Mission many more meaningful and
purposeful years of service.

73 de

Quoting Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>:

> To celebrate one year of IO-86, amateur payload on LAPAN A2/ORARI
> satellite , here is the schedule for tomorrow :
>
> - date: 28 Sep 2016
> - APRS on from 10:02 till 13:30 UTC
> - FM repeater on from 13:30 till 15:30 UTC
>
> All licensed amateurs are welcome to use,
>
> 73 de Yono - YD0NXX
>
> Sent from my iPhone SE
>
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From gp_ab5r at outlook.com  Tue Sep 27 16:49:25 2016
From: gp_ab5r at outlook.com (Gerald Payton)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:49:25 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIY Projects
Message-ID: <MWHPR11MB19520D5BDCC78E4B18A66798D0CC0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

This may be OLD stuff to many of you experienced ops., but new to me.  I was wondering if there had been any individual DIY projects in the past for building an AZ/EL or Pan/Tilt using robotics?  Of course, for our purposes weight and wind load would be a factor.  I am not interested in "toy size", as many of the Arduino projects are.


If anyone knows of a site or PDF, please send it to me; either here or to my personal email:

gp_ab5r at outlook.com.  I am also good via ARRL and AMSAT using AB5R at xxxx


Thanks,

Jerry

From cwo4mann at comcast.net  Tue Sep 27 17:40:26 2016
From: cwo4mann at comcast.net (Dave Mann)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:40:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIY Projects
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB19520D5BDCC78E4B18A66798D0CC0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MWHPR11MB19520D5BDCC78E4B18A66798D0CC0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <ad11a22b-15e5-77eb-8bbe-7b7f3dc75863@comcast.net>

Recommend you email Dave Mathews, KI4PSR at dave at lostfrogs.com.  He did 
an article for AMSAT and can forward some videos and ideas.

73
Dave N4CVX


On 09/27/2016 11:49 AM, Gerald Payton wrote:
> This may be OLD stuff to many of you experienced ops., but new to me.  I was wondering if there had been any individual DIY projects in the past for building an AZ/EL or Pan/Tilt using robotics?  Of course, for our purposes weight and wind load would be a factor.  I am not interested in "toy size", as many of the Arduino projects are.
>
>
> If anyone knows of a site or PDF, please send it to me; either here or to my personal email:
>
> gp_ab5r at outlook.com.  I am also good via ARRL and AMSAT using AB5R at xxxx
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From dario at riquelme.cl  Tue Sep 27 17:59:57 2016
From: dario at riquelme.cl (Dario Riquelme Zornow)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:59:57 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIY Projects
In-Reply-To: <ad11a22b-15e5-77eb-8bbe-7b7f3dc75863@comcast.net>
References: <MWHPR11MB19520D5BDCC78E4B18A66798D0CC0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
	<ad11a22b-15e5-77eb-8bbe-7b7f3dc75863@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAC1szkCL5UQgAyL_-sQZK+o7OcREuxjOjCc_FLkAePZ_oMJ2Nw@mail.gmail.com>

I guess many of us will be happy with the info and video's URL.

if you get them , pleased repost under this thread

Thanks.

2016-09-27 14:40 GMT-03:00 Dave Mann <cwo4mann at comcast.net>:

> Recommend you email Dave Mathews, KI4PSR at dave at lostfrogs.com.  He did
> an article for AMSAT and can forward some videos and ideas.
>
> 73
> Dave N4CVX
>
>
>
> On 09/27/2016 11:49 AM, Gerald Payton wrote:
>
>> This may be OLD stuff to many of you experienced ops., but new to me.  I
>> was wondering if there had been any individual DIY projects in the past for
>> building an AZ/EL or Pan/Tilt using robotics?  Of course, for our purposes
>> weight and wind load would be a factor.  I am not interested in "toy size",
>> as many of the Arduino projects are.
>>
>>
>> If anyone knows of a site or PDF, please send it to me; either here or to
>> my personal email:
>>
>> gp_ab5r at outlook.com.  I am also good via ARRL and AMSAT using AB5R at xxxx
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jerry
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From nss at mwt.net  Tue Sep 27 18:19:40 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:19:40 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
References: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <58a42ee1-1d7c-cc66-3ae6-93d7b6c65b76@mwt.net>

I can not find my way to these pages.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/26/2016 10:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
> It is never too early to begin preparing for field day. In fact, you 
> might want to take a look at two pages. I updated the Field Day 
> Statistics page (with 2016 numbers) and I created a new page with the 
> results of Field Day 2016.
>
> Both can be found by clicking on Events, Other Events and then Field Day
>
> If there is interest, I can add the results of previous years. Let me 
> know. I think I have them back to 2002.
>
> Enjoy
>
> 73...bruce
>


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Tue Sep 27 18:23:05 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 04:23:05 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] DIY Projects
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB19520D5BDCC78E4B18A66798D0CC0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MWHPR11MB19520D5BDCC78E4B18A66798D0CC0@MWHPR11MB1952.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <9ADBB5E4-274E-4485-945C-61149CC38CB4@tech-software.net>

Jerry

I once used a reduction gear box set from the local electronics store

The drive went to a threaded rod

It was a tim system - very rough 

Andrew


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> On 28 Sep 2016, at 2:49 AM, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> This may be OLD stuff to many of you experienced ops., but new to me.  I was wondering if there had been any individual DIY projects in the past for building an AZ/EL or Pan/Tilt using robotics?  Of course, for our purposes weight and wind load would be a factor.  I am not interested in "toy size", as many of the Arduino projects are.
> 
> 
> If anyone knows of a site or PDF, please send it to me; either here or to my personal email:
> 
> gp_ab5r at outlook.com.  I am also good via ARRL and AMSAT using AB5R at xxxx
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry
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From n0jy at amsat.org  Tue Sep 27 18:25:13 2016
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:25:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <58a42ee1-1d7c-cc66-3ae6-93d7b6c65b76@mwt.net>
References: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
	<58a42ee1-1d7c-cc66-3ae6-93d7b6c65b76@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <c9b081d4-4338-e2ec-6250-82cea3cf565c@amsat.org>

Works fine for me.  Thanks Bruce!

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 9/27/2016 13:19, Joe wrote:
> I can not find my way to these pages.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 9/26/2016 10:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> It is never too early to begin preparing for field day. In fact, you
>> might want to take a look at two pages. I updated the Field Day
>> Statistics page (with 2016 numbers) and I created a new page with the
>> results of Field Day 2016.
>>
>> Both can be found by clicking on Events, Other Events and then Field Day
>>
>> If there is interest, I can add the results of previous years. Let me
>> know. I think I have them back to 2002.
>>
>> Enjoy
>>
>> 73...bruce
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>


From nss at mwt.net  Tue Sep 27 18:36:22 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:36:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <c9b081d4-4338-e2ec-6250-82cea3cf565c@amsat.org>
References: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
	<58a42ee1-1d7c-cc66-3ae6-93d7b6c65b76@mwt.net>
	<c9b081d4-4338-e2ec-6250-82cea3cf565c@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <51ff5dc8-fbbc-2ed1-91ec-72d6d2e53fa2@mwt.net>

What works fine?

I don't see any address to go to?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/27/2016 1:25 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
> Works fine for me.  Thanks Bruce!
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 9/27/2016 13:19, Joe wrote:
>> I can not find my way to these pages.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 9/26/2016 10:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> It is never too early to begin preparing for field day. In fact, you
>>> might want to take a look at two pages. I updated the Field Day
>>> Statistics page (with 2016 numbers) and I created a new page with the
>>> results of Field Day 2016.
>>>
>>> Both can be found by clicking on Events, Other Events and then Field Day
>>>
>>> If there is interest, I can add the results of previous years. Let me
>>> know. I think I have them back to 2002.
>>>
>>> Enjoy
>>>
>>> 73...bruce
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 18:43:22 2016
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:43:22 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <51ff5dc8-fbbc-2ed1-91ec-72d6d2e53fa2@mwt.net>
References: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
	<58a42ee1-1d7c-cc66-3ae6-93d7b6c65b76@mwt.net>
	<c9b081d4-4338-e2ec-6250-82cea3cf565c@amsat.org>
	<51ff5dc8-fbbc-2ed1-91ec-72d6d2e53fa2@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FdtvpYKCsFwrrBqnadd4ktg3vh_hV=qcuNzkNiBk0g-0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

The AMSAT website.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Galaxy S7

From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 27 18:49:36 2016
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:49:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FdtvpYKCsFwrrBqnadd4ktg3vh_hV=qcuNzkNiBk0g-0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
	<58a42ee1-1d7c-cc66-3ae6-93d7b6c65b76@mwt.net>
	<c9b081d4-4338-e2ec-6250-82cea3cf565c@amsat.org>
	<51ff5dc8-fbbc-2ed1-91ec-72d6d2e53fa2@mwt.net>
	<CAEMY9FdtvpYKCsFwrrBqnadd4ktg3vh_hV=qcuNzkNiBk0g-0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1365925282.1655704.1475002176517@mail.yahoo.com>

amsat.org -> events -> fother events -> amsat field day on the satellites -> field day statistics OR field day results for 2016
you have to hover over each link to see the drop down menu.
Rob KA2CZU


    On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:43 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Joe,

The AMSAT website.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Galaxy S7
_______________________________________________
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From nss at mwt.net  Tue Sep 27 18:54:58 2016
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:54:58 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <1365925282.1655704.1475002176517@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
	<58a42ee1-1d7c-cc66-3ae6-93d7b6c65b76@mwt.net>
	<c9b081d4-4338-e2ec-6250-82cea3cf565c@amsat.org>
	<51ff5dc8-fbbc-2ed1-91ec-72d6d2e53fa2@mwt.net>
	<CAEMY9FdtvpYKCsFwrrBqnadd4ktg3vh_hV=qcuNzkNiBk0g-0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365925282.1655704.1475002176517@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1ac3d5ee-35a7-8b96-799e-24ed0289ec91@mwt.net>

ahhh OK, the sizing of the page was perfetly wrog here.

I saw the whole page fine. but the sliding side window, was not seen, 
and had no clue anything was missing from the initial pull down it was 
sized just that perfectly.

Joe
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 9/27/2016 1:49 PM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> amsat.org -> events -> fother events -> amsat field day on the satellites -> field day statistics OR field day results for 2016
> you have to hover over each link to see the drop down menu.
> Rob KA2CZU
>
>
>      On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:43 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>
>   Joe,
>
> The AMSAT website.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
>     
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>


From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Sep 27 18:51:16 2016
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:51:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR News now available for D/Load + ISS Transatlantic
 Reflections G4SWX
References: <379775170.11000111.1475002276758.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <379775170.11000111.1475002276758@mail.yahoo.com>

 Autumn/Fall issue of AMSAT-UK publication OSCAR News now available for members to download 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/27/autumn-fall-oscar-news/

PSLV-C35 launch - Signals heard from AlSat-1N but not Pratham 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/24/alsat-1n-pratham-launch/

A Dorset radio amateur reports receiving PISAT (2240 MHz) which was also on the PSLV-C35 launch 
https://twitter.com/uhf_satcom/status/780808329392168960

Thomas Pesquet KG5FYG / FX0ISS launches on his Proxima mission to the ISS in November. 
You can follow ARISS Proxima 30 on Twitter ?@arissproxima30?https://twitter.com/arissproxima30

Thanks to @F5OEOEvariste & @Raspberry_Pi for making this possible:? @ARISS_status video simulation with Raspberry PI 
https://arissproxima30en.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/iss-hamtv-simulation-with-raspberry-pi/

VHF antennas all setup for ARISS contact with schools 
https://arissproxima30en.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/vhf-antennas-setup-for-ariss-contact-with-schools/

The RSGB have released the video of the John Regnault G4SWX 2015 Convention presentation "Regular 3,000+km Contacts on 144MHz by Meteor Scatter and Tropo". In it he describes how the International Space Station acted as a reflector to enable 144 MHz signals to cross the Atlantic. (RSGB members only)
http://rsgb.org/main/archive/video-archive/rsgb-2015-convention/

Amateur Space Communication Talks at 2016 RSGB Convention Oct 8-9 
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/09/amateur-space-comms-rsgbconv2016/


73 Trevor M5AKA
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Sep 27 19:01:00 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:01:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] MARS Society and Amateur Radio
Message-ID: <d08aa214d40410e1c1b6a7d7bb2887b0@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT - Mars? (Sent to AMSAT-Bulletin Board)

Hams could help out the MARS Society Habitat simulations with some Ham
radio.
In fact, some of these simulation stations are in some pretty rare Grids!

The Mars Society has a number of MARS simulation stations on Earth called
"Analog Stations".  Two of these, MDRS & FMARS offer a "near-to
experience" for future Martian dwellers...  Since the first "Crew 1" of
2001, the Crews have displayed techniques for:

* Growing sustainable crops to survive,
* Health & Medical care
* Habitability & Water Reclamation.
* Geodesics and Photogrammetry.
* UAVs & Rovers

What they lack is a realistic communications system to simulate the kinds
of remote communications they would actually use on the planet.  Hams
could consider projects to help the Mars Society in establishing some
meaningful amateur radio between and around the camps.

Having the Mars-o-nauts and mission control operators get their licenses
reminds these operators the importance of  their radio studies.  Example
are:

1) Mission Control Radio Communication ( HF Med / High Power Colorado and
New Mexico )
    For "checking in" and reporting status of accomodations.

2) Point-to-Point Communication ( VHF - Low Power )
    Mars has no ionosphere, therefore line-of-sight radio is handled by
GMRS or 2 Meter Simplex Modes
    Further Distance coverage is handled by a Remote, solar-powered,
Repeater Station(s).

3) Telemetry ( VHF / UHF - Low Power using APRS )
    for Weather, Seismic Sensor, Tracking, EVA Suit & Health, power charge
monitoring.

4) Position reporting ( VHF / UHF - Low Power  using APRS)
    RDF, APRS and EPLRS Methods can be used because by the time man and
women arrive on MARS, there will be a network of GPS-MARS satellites to
support exploration.    In addition Radio Direction Finding can be useful
for Search & Rescue.

6) Satellite Communications - OSCAR SATS [any or all available] ( VHF - 20
to 35 Watts )
    Remote Satellite Dish Controller and Program for Obrital Predictions.
    Exercising the practice of tracking and piloting a Supply Ship to and
from the surface.

7) Power Management Monitoring ( VHF / UHF - Low Power )
    Solar / Thermal / RTG Power Plants and Storage Arrays.

8) Enhanced UAV - ( VHF / UHF - Low Power)
    	Ground Penetrating Radar.
	Geodesics - LIDAR and Photogrammetry.
	Seismic Sensor positioning.
	
9) Packet Digipeating ( VHF simulating MARS networks)
    Wireless internet - Multi-node - Global coverage.

The Mars Society's Analog Stations of Hanksville, Utah, and Devon Island,
Northern Canadian Reaches have been established over 15 years at locations
almost identical to the Martian terrain, but with air.  Well over 1,000
Crew Members have dedicated their studies of alternate foods, longevity,
geology, mapping, power generation, tomography, astronomy, terraforming,
fuel production....  ...anything....everything humanly devised, to be put
to the task here and, out there.

Seen from their Crew Reports, there's been limited use of telemetry,
tracking and radio to date.  This is a good opportunity for ham radio
Elmers participate and consider what could be used on Mars  and then help
in setting it up (as well as get new experimenters, and scientists into
the hobby)

Think about this opportunity to involve Ham radio in not only the future
of planetary exploration but also in involving these active and
enthusiastic experimenters into a life long persuit of the joy of radio
communications.  Consider  what you or yourClub can do to participate, or
provide Equipment Donations that can be the instruments of success to this
endeavour.
The Mars Society is a nonprofit, and welcomes donations pertinent to their
mission goals.
( www.marssociety.org )

From kk5do at arrl.net  Tue Sep 27 19:07:51 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:07:51 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
Message-ID: <fa92543f-4883-9554-a4d7-9e4783e99306@arrl.net>

I removed the 'Other Events' and took away one level of nesting. It 
flows better now.

amsat.org
Events
   Field Day
      Statistics
      Results

73...bruce

-- 

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From stephan.a.greene at vencore.com  Tue Sep 27 19:41:43 2016
From: stephan.a.greene at vencore.com (Greene, Stephan A)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:41:43 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <1365925282.1655704.1475002176517@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
	<58a42ee1-1d7c-cc66-3ae6-93d7b6c65b76@mwt.net>
	<c9b081d4-4338-e2ec-6250-82cea3cf565c@amsat.org>
	<51ff5dc8-fbbc-2ed1-91ec-72d6d2e53fa2@mwt.net>
	<CAEMY9FdtvpYKCsFwrrBqnadd4ktg3vh_hV=qcuNzkNiBk0g-0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<1365925282.1655704.1475002176517@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <905C3C6D2F7CC24386DD63AD6DE8D841EA952825@DC7SWEXP001.corp.adroot.internal>

Some combinations of web browser and possibly network firewall have a
problem displaying and navigating the drop down menus.  IE 11/Win7 from
two different networks only displays the top tier of links under Events,
so only the Field Day 2016 announcement page with link to rules is
visible.  Firefox (available on one system I can access) shows the full
submenus and the links to the FD Results and FD statistics.  Chrome on
Android (phone) also works.  The version I have of IE can display the
direct links, just cannot get to them via drop-down:  Results:
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5575   Statistics:
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=5301

73 Steve KS1G

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Switzer [mailto:rs2atmink at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:50 PM
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH; AMSAT -BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day

amsat.org -> events -> fother events -> amsat field day on the
satellites -> field day statistics OR field day results for 2016 you
have to hover over each link to see the drop down menu.
Rob KA2CZU


    On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:43 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH
<kb1pvh at gmail.com> wrote:


 Joe,

The AMSAT website.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Galaxy S7
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Tue Sep 27 20:22:16 2016
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:22:16 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Field Day
In-Reply-To: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
References: <14997e8e-830b-c491-245f-091cf29f96ec@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUfYaeEYvT-J7Y0sdAy7MEGkzYydWjqO1=tuZG1Jpf=U4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bruce!

In keeing with your comment about "never being too early to begin
preparing for field day", I wanted to ask how I would request a
change in the 2017 Field Day rules. I see the 2016 Field Day rules
are still posted on the AMSAT web site, so I'll work with that for
now.

After last June's Field Day, I posted a report of my activity
here on the AMSAT-BB list:

http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-June/059257.html

Near the end of my post, I wondered aloud about the restriction on
one QSO per orbiting packet digipeater, similar to the restriction
on one QSO per FM satellite. I understand there was some reason that
the "one QSO per digipeater" rule came about in the past, but fail
to see its need now. I made packet QSOs during the 2015 and 2016
Field Days, and only counted one per satellite for my AMSAT Field
Day submissions. ARRL's Field Day rules do not have a restriction
on the number of QSOs per orbiting packet digipeater.

There was a fair bit of activity on the ISS passes I worked
during last June's Field Day. Using APRS messages, it was easy to
make quick exchanges with other stations. NO-84 was not busy, maybe
due to people not realizing its digipeater was operational.
Even with the level of activity I saw on the ISS passes, I don't think
that approaches the almost chaotic conditions observed on some SO-50
passes.

I'm not calling for any changes to the restrictions on QSOs made
via FM satellites. I would like to see this restriction on QSOs per
orbiting digipeater reconsidered. It may have had a purpose in
the past, but I think that's where the restriction should remain -
in the past. Otherwise, AMSAT's Field Day rules are slanted
heavily toward SSB/CW transponders, at the expense of anything
else.

Thanks, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK







On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:43 AM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:

> It is never too early to begin preparing for field day. In fact, you might
> want to take a look at two pages. I updated the Field Day Statistics page
> (with 2016 numbers) and I created a new page with the results of Field Day
> 2016.
>
> Both can be found by clicking on Events, Other Events and then Field Day
>
> If there is interest, I can add the results of previous years. Let me
> know. I think I have them back to 2002.
>
> Enjoy
>
> 73...bruce
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Sep 27 21:51:35 2016
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 17:51:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cubesat Live Attitude Control Command Opportunity
Message-ID: <1282b51c0df266a9be78c8d05d8cd6cc@mail.gmail.com>

If any academic, wants to play with the Attitude Control system on a
cubesat and feels good at Basic Stamp code, we have one on orbit you can
play with (figure out).



Contact me off line.

Serious investigators only.



Thnanks

Bob

From kk5do at arrl.net  Tue Sep 27 23:13:18 2016
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:13:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Rules
Message-ID: <96991dd0-4a0c-08ea-6bb9-51f6b3581a89@arrl.net>

As I have placed the stats and participants of last year's Field Day on 
the webpage, I thought I would ask if anyone has any suggestions to the 
rules for Field Day. No, we cannot change the time or date, we follow 
the ARRL Field Day. If you have a suggestion, drop me a note and let's 
see if we can kick it around for 2017. One thing I would like to see 
would be a single FM satellite that would be for HT use only. Problem is 
there would be no way to let all the ARRL players in the game know.

Please DO NOT post your suggestions to the -BB. I would much rather 
discuss it in private with those that submit a suggestion before we open 
it for long debate. Keep in mind that AMSAT Field Day on Satellites is 
an international event and those from other countries are welcome to 
also make a suggestion. Those that suggested something back during Field 
Day 2016, please drop me a note again so I do not have to look for that 
email again.

73...bruce

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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Thu Sep 29 10:28:19 2016
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 03:28:19 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
In-Reply-To: <57E3FFE0.5050701@amsat.org>
References: <BEEBA3E3-236C-416B-8F0E-498BDDC404C0@tech-software.net>	<e237adac-bfbe-8348-43b3-c77e964fb500@amsat.org>	<5f939b619466e19cd94c687982a4c80a@etczone.com>	<5D49AE03-2C0C-470F-807B-15A58137FCA0@gmail.com>	<280EE68B-EA44-434F-9C8E-FD4136913A6F@tech-software.net>	<c99cb239-e727-3501-f6cc-79c6341879a2@pobox.com>	<075909CA-4726-4369-9909-ACE166E69FED@tech-software.net>	<db2bb12bff6ef083b6ed3d8dc4139a4a@etczone.com>	<3AC3A1B2-D9C4-4193-9EAF-32173EA1C7DD@tech-software.net>
	<57E3FFE0.5050701@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <00ee01d21a3c$330ac730$99205590$@charter.net>

AMEN

73,
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clayton
W5PFG
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:59 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box

Hello Andrew,

Many times no one is transmitting via the ISS except unattended beacons here
over in the US.

When attended stations want to make a QSO, they must fight to get through
the unattended beacons.  I'd say there are 4-5 of these stations on almost
every pass over my QTH, some transmitting every minute or so. 
Very annoying.  I send them APRS messages but not surprisingly, they're
ignored 100% of the time.

Even unattended I-GATE's don't need to beacon via the ISS. If their purpose
is to take the RF traffic and send it to the Internet, there is no need for
them to advertise on 145.825 MHz.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 9/22/2016 09:53, Andrew Rich wrote:
> Trust me guys in Australia here it's just me and the bird
>
> Andrew
>
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> w www.tech-software.net
> m 0419 738 223
>
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 00:48, skristof at etczone.com wrote:
>>
>> Packet can be, and often is, used for QSOs, especially through the ISS.
>>
>> Steve AI9IN
>>

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From quadpugh at bellsouth.net  Wed Sep 28 07:57:35 2016
From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 02:57:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: preamp design
Message-ID: <01d401d2195d$f9b1fcd0$ed15f670$@bellsouth.net>

 

 

 

.

 

The satellite team at the University of Louisiana is look for a VHF preamp
design to fly in a sat. The amp should have 

                1. Gain > 20 db

                2. NF < 1 db

                3. DC volts 3.3 vdc

                4. Current ~ 10 ma

Any help is appreciated

 

de nick k5qxj

 

 

 


From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 08:47:20 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:17:20 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings everyone,

NORAD has update the TLE's for Pratham as follows:

Pratham id: 2016-059C
1 41785U 16059C   16271.69947962  .00004609  00000-0  88934-3 0  9999
2 41785  98.2049 329.2442 0030494 263.1090  96.7138 14.63229411   193
Kindly note the changes. We thank you all for all the help you have
provided till now.
Thank you.

Kind regards,
Team Pratham

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Following are the final TLE's for Pratham, Beacon is expected to switch on
> around 16:30 Hrs IST and we request you all to join us in tracking the
> satellite beacon
>
> PRATHAM
> 1 99999U 16005A   16270.24769735  .00000368  00000-0  70534-4 0  1235
>
> 2 99999 98.2056 327.8012 0027951 267.5222 9.4278 14.63691895 13.
>
> Thanking you.
> Team Pratham.
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Following are the final TLE's for Pratham, Beacon is expected to switch
>> on around 16:30 Hrs IST and we request you all to join us in tracking the
>> satellite beacon.
>>
>> Thanking you.
>> Team Pratham.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Aayush,
>>>
>>> I have approved all pending memberships. Let me know if you still unable
>>> to post. Congratulations !!on the successful launch and wishing the Pratham
>>> team a successful deployment of the satellite.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>
>>> *Cc:* Mani VU2 WMY <wmy at isac.gov.in>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 September 2016 4:21 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>>>
>>> Hello Sir,
>>>
>>> We would like to post about the launch and telemetry details on the
>>> amsat India group. I have applied for membership but it has not been
>>> approved yet. Would it be possible for you to post the above mail on the
>>> amsat India group? Or if my membership gets approved I will be able to post
>>> myself.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Aayush
>>> Communication sub-system, Pratham
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> We are glad to inform you that Pratham, IITB's Student Satellite is
>>> expected to launch with the help of PSLV-C35 on 26th September, 2016 at
>>> 9:12 AM.
>>> ??
>>> The following are the TLE data for the satellite:
>>>
>>> 16005A      16270.25119097     0.00000311       00000-0     59418-4
>>> 0    1232
>>> 98.2057    329.0542    0028038    267.7677   9.1998   14.63716875    11
>>>
>>> Any update in these will be notified at the earliest. We would love you
>>> all to be a part of the project and help us in tracking our satellite.
>>> There are basically two downlink for the satellite, The beacon is
>>> estimated to switch on in the window of 25-30 degrees North and 4-8 degrees
>>> East as per the current TLE's. Once switched on, it will remain so through
>>> out it's orbit. The telemetry data will be switched on only over France and
>>> India because of our power constraints. If you could, please receive the
>>> beacon and/or telemetry of the satellite and report back to the mail id's
>>> as given below. The information for the satellite transmissions is given
>>> below,
>>>
>>> Beacon:
>>> Frequency: 145.98 MHz
>>> Modulation: CW
>>> Words per minute: 30
>>> Power Emitted: 0.2 W (23 dBm)
>>>
>>> Telemetry:
>>> To be switched on only over India and France
>>> Modulation: FSK
>>> Rate: 1200 bps
>>> Power Emitted: 0.06 W (18 dBm)
>>>
>>> For any other Information you may visit our website
>>> <http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/pratham/>. Also feel free to contact our
>>> Communication and Ground station team, (Rachana Agarwal,
>>> rachna.agrawal.04 at gmail.com; and Aayush Yadav, aayushyadav825 at gmail.com)
>>> for any queries you may have.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your wishes.
>>>
>>> The FSK downlink contains only the health monitoring data of the
>>> satellite and is used for payload calculations. IPGP university in france
>>> requested us for the payload data for their scientific research thus we are
>>> switching on the telemetry only over India and France.
>>>
>>> However the CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be
>>> received from anywhere.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Team Pratham
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday 8 September 2016, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Team Pratham,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and
>>> deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on 437.455
>>> Mhz is activated over France and India.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>>> Secretary, AMSAT INDIA
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825 at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <AMSAT-BB at amsat.org>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
>>> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>>>
>>> Greetings everyone,
>>>
>>> We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
>>> Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week
>>> of
>>> September. We would be really happy if  you all joined us in receiving
>>> our
>>> satellite's beacon, details given below:
>>>
>>> Beacon:
>>> Mode: CW
>>> wpm: 35 words
>>> Frequency: 145.980 MHz
>>>
>>> Downlink:
>>> Mode: FSK
>>> Baudrate: 1200 bps
>>> Frequency: 437.455 MHz
>>> (To be switched on over France and India only)
>>>
>>> We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards.
>>> Team Pratham
>>> ______________________________ _________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

From GW1FKY at aol.com  Wed Sep 28 10:13:09 2016
From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 06:13:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N  ( Pratham ) satellite Beacon heard
Message-ID: <3116b.70a3d0b5.451cf1b4@aol.com>

Hi all,
Pleased to report that I heard the beacon ( 145.980 mhz ) on Alsat -1n -  
Pratham on this mornings pass
here in Wales - UK     The pass was at 0945  GMT and being at a reasonable 
height easy to monitor.
I used the keps that were originally posted and my equipment my usual  
Kenwood TS 2000 and tracking with 
the "ELK "  antenna.
If I get a chance I will listen again on the next pass and perhaps get  a 
recording - I wonder how the data
downlink was  performing if switched on whilst over France.?
Congratulations to the team and also of course to "ISRO" for the success on 
 the launch.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY

From simon at sdr-radio.com  Wed Sep 28 12:01:37 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:01:37 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N  ( Pratham ) satellite Beacon heard
In-Reply-To: <3116b.70a3d0b5.451cf1b4@aol.com>
References: <3116b.70a3d0b5.451cf1b4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <01ad01d21980$10bf5a90$323e0fb0$@sdr-radio.com>

Ken,

I had a listen yesterday but heard nothing, will listen this afternoon. Just
had a magnificent pass on FO-29 with seven stations contacted. The whole
station worked like a charm, next pass in an hour or so covers quite a bit
of the east coast USA.

Using: RX: Airspy Mini, TX: TS-2000, Innov Yagis for 2m / 70cms, AlfaSPID,
Own software

No fading on the satellite at all, was a stonking signal from AOS to LOS.

See you Sunday...

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of GW1FKY---
via AMSAT-BB
Sent: 28 September 2016 11:13
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N ( Pratham ) satellite Beacon heard

Hi all,
Pleased to report that I heard the beacon ( 145.980 mhz ) on Alsat -1n -
Pratham on this mornings pass
here in Wales - UK     The pass was at 0945  GMT and being at a reasonable 
height easy to monitor.
I used the keps that were originally posted and my equipment my usual
Kenwood TS 2000 and tracking with the "ELK "  antenna.
If I get a chance I will listen again on the next pass and perhaps get  a
recording - I wonder how the data downlink was  performing if switched on
whilst over France.?
Congratulations to the team and also of course to "ISRO" for the success on
the launch.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
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From onmontauk at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 12:25:04 2016
From: onmontauk at gmail.com (Steve A)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:25:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Symposium Ops
Message-ID: <CAD33etr7o9xJ09Je5iwpA+h0WcBnNvbXYWjijaEpZYrU-AV0fw@mail.gmail.com>

What is required to operate from the ship and while in Cozumel?
Do we need authorization from the ships Captain?
Do we need IARP? Even if Extra Class?

I thought all these questions were going to be answered and posted to the
AMSAT website.

Steve Akkala

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Sep 28 13:09:35 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:09:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Symposium Ops
In-Reply-To: <CAD33etr7o9xJ09Je5iwpA+h0WcBnNvbXYWjijaEpZYrU-AV0fw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD33etr7o9xJ09Je5iwpA+h0WcBnNvbXYWjijaEpZYrU-AV0fw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoJ0KVsvYTxoC_7AiG30qofzNZ_XfBMjgScYZPszrML3g@mail.gmail.com>

Carnival allows amateur radio operations on board per their policy. An IARP
is required for any US licensed ham as the ship is registered in Panama.

This was detailed in this week's ANS.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Steve A <onmontauk at gmail.com> wrote:

> What is required to operate from the ship and while in Cozumel?
> Do we need authorization from the ships Captain?
> Do we need IARP? Even if Extra Class?
>
> I thought all these questions were going to be answered and posted to the
> AMSAT website.
>
> Steve Akkala
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open
> forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From GW1FKY at aol.com  Wed Sep 28 13:31:12 2016
From: GW1FKY at aol.com (GW1FKY at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:31:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N  (Pratham )  - Update
Message-ID: <a1c49.294c364e.451d2020@aol.com>

Hi again,
I listened for Alsat-1N ( Pratham ) on the subsequent pass -same frequency  
and equipment but also with an update to the keps. Those issued on the  BBS 
posting.
I regret to inform you that I heard nothing ?    The pass was  lower and in 
a sector were I have difficulty 
due to screening and reflection problems - Weather had also changed with  
very low cloud,mist and rain.
Even AO-73 would not decode the dashboard data in the same sector during  
the same period.
 
I am certain about hearing a CW  beacon in the previous  pass.
I had been setting up my gear for an AO-73 in that earlier pass and had USB 
 selected for the downlink data.
 
Noticed that Alsat-1N  was also approaching in the same ball part of  time 
so decided to have a listen on the 
145.980 Mhz frequency.    That was when I started to hear  the CW beacon 
but still had USB selected I selected CW and got a better copy as  it 
approached.
I wish that I been set up to record but of course was not planning for that 
 particular satellite and pass.
Had I done so it would have been useful to clarify any doubt about things  
and I am unsure why the subsequent pass showed no activity.
Hopefully the satellite is alive and active and someone else also monitored 
 and maybe even recorded the pass.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
 

From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 14:25:55 2016
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:25:55 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Symposium Ops
In-Reply-To: <CAD33etr7o9xJ09Je5iwpA+h0WcBnNvbXYWjijaEpZYrU-AV0fw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD33etr7o9xJ09Je5iwpA+h0WcBnNvbXYWjijaEpZYrU-AV0fw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57ebd2f3.5c0f6b0a.47ca3.c1b2@mx.google.com>

> I thought all these questions were going to be answered and posted to the
> AMSAT website.

The information is on the AMSAT web. It is on the scroll down of the news
blog on the front page at www.amsat.org. The direct link to the cruise
updated news is:
http://www.amsat.org/?p=5489

On-line access to the ANS bulletin that Paul mentioned is available at:
http://amsat.org/pipermail/ans/2016/000931.html

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org




From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 15:51:17 2016
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:51:17 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <a1c49.294c364e.451d2020@aol.com>
References: <a1c49.294c364e.451d2020@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOYKLG-v02e4xUEZj=S3_1NxDsHta-ktGR6hZRqJFfVCaw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ken & everyone.

Hoping to confirm Ken's possible Pratham CW beacon reception, I was
tracking Pratham on a max 56? pass down the USA East Coast at 14:46 UTC
today.

No signal was seen where it "should" have been, but a strong and clear CW
beacon appeared below the expected frequency.

Replay of the recording with appropriate demod revealed that the CW in
question translated to "M O V E 1".

A Google search lead me to object 39439, cubesat "First Move" which
transmits the MOVE1 CW beacon on 145.970.

Adding that satellite to Orbitron and walking back to the time of my pass,
the First Move satellite was indeed in the area (trailing the expected
track of Pratham).

Running the simulation back to Ken's reception report at 09:45 UTC, First
Move was also in his area.  And, according to the footprint in Orbitron,
First Move would have just been in range of the UK - in fact very close if
the time was closer to 09:50 UTC.

I don't know if this is the CW that Ken might have heard, but in any event
I unfortunately did not see any transmissions around 145.980 on this
morning's pass here that might correlate to Pratham.

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA

=================================

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:31 AM, GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
wrote:

> Hi again,
> I listened for Alsat-1N ( Pratham ) on the subsequent pass -same frequency
> and equipment but also with an update to the keps. Those issued on the  BBS
> posting.
> I regret to inform you that I heard nothing ?    The pass was  lower and in
> a sector were I have difficulty
> due to screening and reflection problems - Weather had also changed with
> very low cloud,mist and rain.
> Even AO-73 would not decode the dashboard data in the same sector during
> the same period.
>
> I am certain about hearing a CW  beacon in the previous  pass.
> I had been setting up my gear for an AO-73 in that earlier pass and had USB
>  selected for the downlink data.
>
> Noticed that Alsat-1N  was also approaching in the same ball part of  time
> so decided to have a listen on the
> 145.980 Mhz frequency.    That was when I started to hear  the CW beacon
> but still had USB selected I selected CW and got a better copy as  it
> approached.
> I wish that I been set up to record but of course was not planning for that
>  particular satellite and pass.
> Had I done so it would have been useful to clarify any doubt about things
> and I am unsure why the subsequent pass showed no activity.
> Hopefully the satellite is alive and active and someone else also monitored
>  and maybe even recorded the pass.
> Ken Eaton
> GW1FKY
>
>

From my.callsign at verizon.net  Wed Sep 28 16:47:59 2016
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:47:59 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
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Correct me if I am mistaken;

Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.  Pratham is turned on 
only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second telemetry 
beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.  (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)

I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last three 
days.

BOB
KO6TZ

28 Sept 2016   UTC <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

16:22 -14>>I03,?,97 (9600 baud):
.?.
16:22 -4>>I02,?,36 (9600 baud):
..H c...??xW....
16:22 -9>>UI,?,20 (9600 baud):
?.?O
16:22 -4>>I02,?,36 (9600 baud):
... ....??xW....
16:22 -11>>I00,?,90 (9602 baud):
.?.
16:22 -4>>RNR0,?
16:23 -4>>UNKN,?
16:23 -4>>I27,?,36 (9600 baud):
..H R...??xW....
16:23 -7>>DM,R
16:23 -4>>UNKN,?
16:23 -9>>UNKN,?
16:25 -4>>I54,?,36 (9598 baud):
..H }...8?xW....
16:25 -4>>I54,?,36 (9600 baud):
..H }...8?xW....
16:26 -7>>I03,?,97 (9602 baud):
.?.
16:26 -4>>RR0,?
16:26 -4>>I01,?,37 (9600 baud):
..? G...??xW....






Hello Ken & everyone.

Hoping to confirm Ken's possible Pratham CW beacon reception, I was
tracking Pratham on a max 56? pass down the USA East Coast at 14:46 UTC
today.

No signal was seen where it "should" have been, but a strong and clear CW
beacon appeared below the expected frequency.

Replay of the recording with appropriate demod revealed that the CW in
question translated to "M O V E 1".

A Google search lead me to object 39439, cubesat "First Move" which
transmits the MOVE1 CW beacon on 145.970.

Adding that satellite to Orbitron and walking back to the time of my pass,
the First Move satellite was indeed in the area (trailing the expected
track of Pratham).

Running the simulation back to Ken's reception report at 09:45 UTC, First
Move was also in his area.  And, according to the footprint in Orbitron,
First Move would have just been in range of the UK - in fact very close if
the time was closer to 09:50 UTC.

I don't know if this is the CW that Ken might have heard, but in any event
I unfortunately did not see any transmissions around 145.980 on this
morning's pass here that might correlate to Pratham.

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA

=================================

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:31 AM, GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at 
amsat.org>
wrote:

 > Hi again,
 > I listened for Alsat-1N ( Pratham ) on the subsequent pass -same 
frequency
 > and equipment but also with an update to the keps. Those issued on 
the  BBS
 > posting.
 > I regret to inform you that I heard nothing ?    The pass was lower 
and in
 > a sector were I have difficulty
 > due to screening and reflection problems - Weather had also changed with
 > very low cloud,mist and rain.
 > Even AO-73 would not decode the dashboard data in the same sector during
 > the same period.
 >
 > I am certain about hearing a CW  beacon in the previous  pass.
 > I had been setting up my gear for an AO-73 in that earlier pass and 
had USB
 >  selected for the downlink data.
 >
 > Noticed that Alsat-1N  was also approaching in the same ball part of  
time
 > so decided to have a listen on the
 > 145.980 Mhz frequency.    That was when I started to hear  the CW beacon
 > but still had USB selected I selected CW and got a better copy as  it
 > approached.
 > I wish that I been set up to record but of course was not planning 
for that
 >  particular satellite and pass.
 > Had I done so it would have been useful to clarify any doubt about things
 > and I am unsure why the subsequent pass showed no activity.
 > Hopefully the satellite is alive and active and someone else also 
monitored
 >  and maybe even recorded the pass.
 > Ken Eaton
 > GW1FKY
 >
 >




From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Wed Sep 28 16:54:27 2016
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 18:54:27 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <45d6a33d-418f-683a-acd3-9283fa76c3fc@verizon.net>
References: <CAJCSnOYKLG-v02e4xUEZj=S3_1NxDsHta-ktGR6hZRqJFfVCaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<45d6a33d-418f-683a-acd3-9283fa76c3fc@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>

Hi Bob,

Use the UZ7HO hs_soundmoden and un-tick non-ax25 filter.

Similar to STRaND-1 ALSAT-1N it is not full AX25

Regarding PRATHAM, it should do CW on 145.98 during the whole orbit and 
AFSK 1200 on 437.455 over there command stations.

But so far nothing heard

73 Jan PE0SAT

On 28-09-2016 18:47, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
> Correct me if I am mistaken;
> 
> Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.  Pratham is turned
> on only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second telemetry
> beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.  (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)
> 
> I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last 
> three days.
> 
> BOB
> KO6TZ
> 
> 28 Sept 2016   UTC <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> 16:22 -14>>I03,?,97 (9600 baud):
> .?.
> 16:22 -4>>I02,?,36 (9600 baud):
> ..H c...??xW....
> 16:22 -9>>UI,?,20 (9600 baud):
> ?.?O
> 16:22 -4>>I02,?,36 (9600 baud):
> ... ....??xW....
> 16:22 -11>>I00,?,90 (9602 baud):
> .?.
> 16:22 -4>>RNR0,?
> 16:23 -4>>UNKN,?
> 16:23 -4>>I27,?,36 (9600 baud):
> ..H R...??xW....
> 16:23 -7>>DM,R
> 16:23 -4>>UNKN,?
> 16:23 -9>>UNKN,?
> 16:25 -4>>I54,?,36 (9598 baud):
> ..H }...8?xW....
> 16:25 -4>>I54,?,36 (9600 baud):
> ..H }...8?xW....
> 16:26 -7>>I03,?,97 (9602 baud):
> .?.
> 16:26 -4>>RR0,?
> 16:26 -4>>I01,?,37 (9600 baud):
> ..? G...??xW....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Ken & everyone.
> 
> Hoping to confirm Ken's possible Pratham CW beacon reception, I was
> tracking Pratham on a max 56? pass down the USA East Coast at 14:46 
> UTC
> today.
> 
> No signal was seen where it "should" have been, but a strong and clear 
> CW
> beacon appeared below the expected frequency.
> 
> Replay of the recording with appropriate demod revealed that the CW in
> question translated to "M O V E 1".
> 
> A Google search lead me to object 39439, cubesat "First Move" which
> transmits the MOVE1 CW beacon on 145.970.
> 
> Adding that satellite to Orbitron and walking back to the time of my 
> pass,
> the First Move satellite was indeed in the area (trailing the expected
> track of Pratham).
> 
> Running the simulation back to Ken's reception report at 09:45 UTC, 
> First
> Move was also in his area.  And, according to the footprint in 
> Orbitron,
> First Move would have just been in range of the UK - in fact very 
> close if
> the time was closer to 09:50 UTC.
> 
> I don't know if this is the CW that Ken might have heard, but in any 
> event
> I unfortunately did not see any transmissions around 145.980 on this
> morning's pass here that might correlate to Pratham.
> 
> -Scott,  K4KDR
> Montpelier, VA  USA
> 
> =================================
> 
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:31 AM, GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at 
> amsat.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi again,
>> I listened for Alsat-1N ( Pratham ) on the subsequent pass -same 
>> frequency
>> and equipment but also with an update to the keps. Those issued on 
>> the  BBS
>> posting.
>> I regret to inform you that I heard nothing ?    The pass was lower 
>> and in
>> a sector were I have difficulty
>> due to screening and reflection problems - Weather had also changed 
>> with
>> very low cloud,mist and rain.
>> Even AO-73 would not decode the dashboard data in the same sector 
>> during
>> the same period.
>> 
>> I am certain about hearing a CW  beacon in the previous  pass.
>> I had been setting up my gear for an AO-73 in that earlier pass and 
>> had USB
>>  selected for the downlink data.
>> 
>> Noticed that Alsat-1N  was also approaching in the same ball part of  
>> time
>> so decided to have a listen on the
>> 145.980 Mhz frequency.    That was when I started to hear  the CW 
>> beacon
>> but still had USB selected I selected CW and got a better copy as  it
>> approached.
>> I wish that I been set up to record but of course was not planning 
>> for that
>>  particular satellite and pass.
>> Had I done so it would have been useful to clarify any doubt about 
>> things
>> and I am unsure why the subsequent pass showed no activity.
>> Hopefully the satellite is alive and active and someone else also 
>> monitored
>>  and maybe even recorded the pass.
>> Ken Eaton
>> GW1FKY
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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From simon at sdr-radio.com  Wed Sep 28 17:07:28 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 18:07:28 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <45d6a33d-418f-683a-acd3-9283fa76c3fc@verizon.net>
References: <CAJCSnOYKLG-v02e4xUEZj=S3_1NxDsHta-ktGR6hZRqJFfVCaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<45d6a33d-418f-683a-acd3-9283fa76c3fc@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <004501d219aa$cae9f270$60bdd750$@sdr-radio.com>

Bob,

FWIW Pratham is identified in http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt as 2016-059C. I've set a timer to remind me to listen for it this evening, two good passes where I'll hear the CW beacon if it is on.

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of KO6TZ Bob
Sent: 28 September 2016 17:48
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update

Correct me if I am mistaken;

Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.  Pratham is turned on only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second telemetry beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.  (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)

I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last three days.

BOB
KO6TZ 


From k.alexander at rogers.com  Wed Sep 28 17:24:31 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:24:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EO80/90/91 QSOs
Message-ID: <e3f1bd85-0db6-ff97-a268-49c1accfb513@rogers.com>

All EO80/90/91 QSOs have been uploaded to LoTW.  Please report any 
errors of omissions to me.

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in  Wed Sep 28 18:19:52 2016
From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 18:19:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <45d6a33d-418f-683a-acd3-9283fa76c3fc@verizon.net>
References: <CAJCSnOYKLG-v02e4xUEZj=S3_1NxDsHta-ktGR6hZRqJFfVCaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<45d6a33d-418f-683a-acd3-9283fa76c3fc@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1615912932.5406507.1475086792368@mail.yahoo.com>

Bob, you are right. For AIsat-1N the telemetry can be found at?http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=75476
73
Nitin [VU3TYG]

      From: KO6TZ Bob <my.callsign at verizon.net>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 10:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
   
Correct me if I am mistaken;

Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.? Pratham is turned on 
only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second telemetry 
beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.? (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)

I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last three 
days.

BOB
KO6TZ

28 Sept 2016? UTC <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

16:22 -14>>I03,?,97 (9600 baud):
.?.
16:22 -4>>I02,?,36 (9600 baud):
..H c...??xW....
16:22 -9>>UI,?,20 (9600 baud):
?.?O
16:22 -4>>I02,?,36 (9600 baud):
... ....??xW....
16:22 -11>>I00,?,90 (9602 baud):
.?.
16:22 -4>>RNR0,?
16:23 -4>>UNKN,?
16:23 -4>>I27,?,36 (9600 baud):
..H R...??xW....
16:23 -7>>DM,R
16:23 -4>>UNKN,?
16:23 -9>>UNKN,?
16:25 -4>>I54,?,36 (9598 baud):
..H }...8?xW....
16:25 -4>>I54,?,36 (9600 baud):
..H }...8?xW....
16:26 -7>>I03,?,97 (9602 baud):
.?.
16:26 -4>>RR0,?
16:26 -4>>I01,?,37 (9600 baud):
..? G...??xW....






Hello Ken & everyone.

Hoping to confirm Ken's possible Pratham CW beacon reception, I was
tracking Pratham on a max 56? pass down the USA East Coast at 14:46 UTC
today.

No signal was seen where it "should" have been, but a strong and clear CW
beacon appeared below the expected frequency.

Replay of the recording with appropriate demod revealed that the CW in
question translated to "M O V E 1".

A Google search lead me to object 39439, cubesat "First Move" which
transmits the MOVE1 CW beacon on 145.970.

Adding that satellite to Orbitron and walking back to the time of my pass,
the First Move satellite was indeed in the area (trailing the expected
track of Pratham).

Running the simulation back to Ken's reception report at 09:45 UTC, First
Move was also in his area.? And, according to the footprint in Orbitron,
First Move would have just been in range of the UK - in fact very close if
the time was closer to 09:50 UTC.

I don't know if this is the CW that Ken might have heard, but in any event
I unfortunately did not see any transmissions around 145.980 on this
morning's pass here that might correlate to Pratham.

-Scott,? K4KDR
Montpelier, VA? USA

=================================

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:31 AM, GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at 
amsat.org>
wrote:

 > Hi again,
 > I listened for Alsat-1N ( Pratham ) on the subsequent pass -same 
frequency
 > and equipment but also with an update to the keps. Those issued on 
the? BBS
 > posting.
 > I regret to inform you that I heard nothing ?? ? The pass was lower 
and in
 > a sector were I have difficulty
 > due to screening and reflection problems - Weather had also changed with
 > very low cloud,mist and rain.
 > Even AO-73 would not decode the dashboard data in the same sector during
 > the same period.
 >
 > I am certain about hearing a CW? beacon in the previous? pass.
 > I had been setting up my gear for an AO-73 in that earlier pass and 
had USB
 >? selected for the downlink data.
 >
 > Noticed that Alsat-1N? was also approaching in the same ball part of? 
time
 > so decided to have a listen on the
 > 145.980 Mhz frequency.? ? That was when I started to hear? the CW beacon
 > but still had USB selected I selected CW and got a better copy as? it
 > approached.
 > I wish that I been set up to record but of course was not planning 
for that
 >? particular satellite and pass.
 > Had I done so it would have been useful to clarify any doubt about things
 > and I am unsure why the subsequent pass showed no activity.
 > Hopefully the satellite is alive and active and someone else also 
monitored
 >? and maybe even recorded the pass.
 > Ken Eaton
 > GW1FKY
 >
 >



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From my.callsign at verizon.net  Wed Sep 28 18:24:40 2016
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:24:40 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>
References: <241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>
Message-ID: <847e5f3e-dd88-1984-31e8-2f19ec7b747e@verizon.net>




Jan,

I had UZ7HO_HS installed on my computer, but have not used it much.

On the 18:00 utc pass I tried it out.  I certainly copied more than 
MixW, but did not display any of the telemetry data.  What I received 
were frames like these:
1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=19> [11:07:27R]
1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=32> [11:07:27R]
1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]

I have to work on settings...

Thanks for the help.

BOB
KO6TZ



Hi Bob,

Use the UZ7HO hs_soundmoden and un-tick non-ax25 filter.

Similar to STRaND-1 ALSAT-1N it is not full AX25

Regarding PRATHAM, it should do CW on 145.98 during the whole orbit and
AFSK 1200 on 437.455 over there command stations.

But so far nothing heard

73 Jan PE0SAT

On 28-09-2016 18:47, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
 > Correct me if I am mistaken;
 >
 > Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.  Pratham is turned
 > on only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second telemetry
 > beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.  (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)
 >
 > I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last
 > three days.
 >
 > BOB
 > KO6TZ


From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 18:26:02 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:26:02 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>
References: <CAJCSnOYKLG-v02e4xUEZj=S3_1NxDsHta-ktGR6hZRqJFfVCaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<45d6a33d-418f-683a-acd3-9283fa76c3fc@verizon.net>
	<241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>
Message-ID: <57EC0B3A.7030405@gmail.com>

Just had a directly overhead pass of Pratham here at CM98, 1755 UTC. 
Heard the CW beacon, but rather weak given the overhead pass, and very
chirpy.  Strongest signal was just after TCA, but there was surprisingly
very little QSB overall.  Is it stabilized already?

I couldn't copy the data by ear (too fast), and FLDIGI couldn't make
much sense of the signal either, probably due to the chirps and being
just above the noise.  AOS, TCA, and LOS matched predictions pretty well
for object 2016-059C.

Equipment here is a Yaesu FT-847 (CW mode), with a 2x8 element beam and
Khune preamp at the rotor.  I tried both polarizations, and it didn't
seem to matter much.  Presume the spacecraft's antennas are linear.

Greg  KO6TH


PE0SAT | Amateur Radio wrote:
>
> Regarding PRATHAM, it should do CW on 145.98 during the whole orbit
> and AFSK 1200 on 437.455 over there command stations.


From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 18:31:47 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:31:47 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <847e5f3e-dd88-1984-31e8-2f19ec7b747e@verizon.net>
References: <241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>
	<847e5f3e-dd88-1984-31e8-2f19ec7b747e@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <57EC0C93.1090300@gmail.com>

Was this the same pass I just listened to?  (I think I'm about 500 mi
north west of Bob.)

I was in CW mode listening around 145.980.  It certainly did not sound
like anything close to packet, but I didn't try FM.

Greg  KO6TH


KO6TZ Bob wrote:
>
>
>
> Jan,
>
> I had UZ7HO_HS installed on my computer, but have not used it much.
>
> On the 18:00 utc pass I tried it out.  I certainly copied more than
> MixW, but did not display any of the telemetry data.  What I received
> were frames like these:
> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=19> [11:07:27R]
> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=32> [11:07:27R]
> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
>
> I have to work on settings...
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> BOB
> KO6TZ
>
>
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Use the UZ7HO hs_soundmoden and un-tick non-ax25 filter.
>
> Similar to STRaND-1 ALSAT-1N it is not full AX25
>
> Regarding PRATHAM, it should do CW on 145.98 during the whole orbit and
> AFSK 1200 on 437.455 over there command stations.
>
> But so far nothing heard
>
> 73 Jan PE0SAT
>
> On 28-09-2016 18:47, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
> > Correct me if I am mistaken;
> >
> > Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.  Pratham is turned
> > on only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second telemetry
> > beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.  (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)
> >
> > I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last
> > three days.
> >
> > BOB
> > KO6TZ
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Wed Sep 28 18:32:56 2016
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:32:56 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <847e5f3e-dd88-1984-31e8-2f19ec7b747e@verizon.net>
References: <241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>
	<847e5f3e-dd88-1984-31e8-2f19ec7b747e@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <97c3d8473151269fb7229381c77088f8@vgnet.nl>

Hello Bob,

Connect AGW Online Kiss (http://www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml) via tcp 
port to UZ7HO and you will see and save the telemetry.

Good luck and let me know if you have any further questions.
Maybe this block diagram can be useful 
http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/

73 Jan

On 28-09-2016 20:24, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
> Jan,
> 
> I had UZ7HO_HS installed on my computer, but have not used it much.
> 
> On the 18:00 utc pass I tried it out.  I certainly copied more than
> MixW, but did not display any of the telemetry data.  What I received
> were frames like these:
> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=19> [11:07:27R]
> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=32> [11:07:27R]
> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
> 
> I have to work on settings...
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> BOB
> KO6TZ
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Use the UZ7HO hs_soundmoden and un-tick non-ax25 filter.
> 
> Similar to STRaND-1 ALSAT-1N it is not full AX25
> 
> Regarding PRATHAM, it should do CW on 145.98 during the whole orbit 
> and
> AFSK 1200 on 437.455 over there command stations.
> 
> But so far nothing heard
> 
> 73 Jan PE0SAT
> 
> On 28-09-2016 18:47, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
>> Correct me if I am mistaken;
>> 
>> Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.  Pratham is turned
>> on only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second telemetry
>> beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.  (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)
>> 
>> I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last
>> three days.
>> 
>> BOB
>> KO6TZ
> 
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From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Wed Sep 28 18:34:30 2016
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:34:30 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <57EC0C93.1090300@gmail.com>
References: <241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>
	<847e5f3e-dd88-1984-31e8-2f19ec7b747e@verizon.net>
	<57EC0C93.1090300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bf61a9b4c02e101494f8270ab83a402e@vgnet.nl>

Hi to all,

I saw the same signal over Europe but it was at 145.970 and seems to be 
MOVE1 as Scott mentioned earlier.

73 Jan

On 28-09-2016 20:31, Greg D wrote:
> Was this the same pass I just listened to?  (I think I'm about 500 mi
> north west of Bob.)
> 
> I was in CW mode listening around 145.980.  It certainly did not sound
> like anything close to packet, but I didn't try FM.
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> 
> KO6TZ Bob wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jan,
>> 
>> I had UZ7HO_HS installed on my computer, but have not used it much.
>> 
>> On the 18:00 utc pass I tried it out.  I certainly copied more than
>> MixW, but did not display any of the telemetry data.  What I received
>> were frames like these:
>> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
>> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=19> [11:07:27R]
>> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=32> [11:07:27R]
>> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
>> 
>> I have to work on settings...
>> 
>> Thanks for the help.
>> 
>> BOB
>> KO6TZ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Bob,
>> 
>> Use the UZ7HO hs_soundmoden and un-tick non-ax25 filter.
>> 
>> Similar to STRaND-1 ALSAT-1N it is not full AX25
>> 
>> Regarding PRATHAM, it should do CW on 145.98 during the whole orbit 
>> and
>> AFSK 1200 on 437.455 over there command stations.
>> 
>> But so far nothing heard
>> 
>> 73 Jan PE0SAT
>> 
>> On 28-09-2016 18:47, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
>>> Correct me if I am mistaken;
>>> 
>>> Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.  Pratham is 
>>> turned
>>> on only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second 
>>> telemetry
>>> beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.  (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)
>>> 
>>> I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last
>>> three days.
>>> 
>>> BOB
>>> KO6TZ
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 18:46:13 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:46:13 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N (Pratham ) - Update
In-Reply-To: <bf61a9b4c02e101494f8270ab83a402e@vgnet.nl>
References: <241e599b212e465e3764b45b13d41040@vgnet.nl>
	<847e5f3e-dd88-1984-31e8-2f19ec7b747e@verizon.net>
	<57EC0C93.1090300@gmail.com>
	<bf61a9b4c02e101494f8270ab83a402e@vgnet.nl>
Message-ID: <57EC0FF5.6000309@gmail.com>

If it's MOVE1, then something's off.  My rig at LOS displayed
145.974.740 (145.975.340 if I change to FM).  If Move1 is at 145.970 at
TCA, it would have been down around 145.967 at LOS, about 7khz lower
than what I heard.  I also didn't catch much by way of letters in what I
heard.  A lot more dits, it seemed.  Sorry, but I didn't have a
recording set up to capture it.  Will try again in about an hour.  It's
a rather low pass off to the west, so may not be audible.

Greg  KO6TH


PE0SAT | Amateur Radio wrote:
> Hi to all,
>
> I saw the same signal over Europe but it was at 145.970 and seems to
> be MOVE1 as Scott mentioned earlier.
>
> 73 Jan
>
> On 28-09-2016 20:31, Greg D wrote:
>> Was this the same pass I just listened to?  (I think I'm about 500 mi
>> north west of Bob.)
>>
>> I was in CW mode listening around 145.980.  It certainly did not sound
>> like anything close to packet, but I didn't try FM.
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>>
>>
>> KO6TZ Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan,
>>>
>>> I had UZ7HO_HS installed on my computer, but have not used it much.
>>>
>>> On the 18:00 utc pass I tried it out.  I certainly copied more than
>>> MixW, but did not display any of the telemetry data.  What I received
>>> were frames like these:
>>> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
>>> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=19> [11:07:27R]
>>> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=32> [11:07:27R]
>>> 1: <NON-AX25 frame Len=20> [11:07:27R]
>>>
>>> I have to work on settings...
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> BOB
>>> KO6TZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> Use the UZ7HO hs_soundmoden and un-tick non-ax25 filter.
>>>
>>> Similar to STRaND-1 ALSAT-1N it is not full AX25
>>>
>>> Regarding PRATHAM, it should do CW on 145.98 during the whole orbit and
>>> AFSK 1200 on 437.455 over there command stations.
>>>
>>> But so far nothing heard
>>>
>>> 73 Jan PE0SAT
>>>
>>> On 28-09-2016 18:47, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
>>>> Correct me if I am mistaken;
>>>>
>>>> Pratham and AlSat-1N are two different satellites.  Pratham is turned
>>>> on only over India and Europe, and AlSat-1N has a 90 second telemetry
>>>> beacon 437.650 9K6 FSK.  (actually running 4KHz low 437.646)
>>>>
>>>> I have only been able to copy garbled data from AlSat-1n the last
>>>> three days.
>>>>
>>>> BOB
>>>> KO6TZ
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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>>
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> of AMSAT-NA.
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Wed Sep 28 19:03:43 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 05:03:43 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2A - XW2F
Message-ID: <BE2B896F-98E7-4594-A604-C4BEFE9F423A@tech-software.net>

Hello

Are the XW2A - 2F different payloads in space ?

I get the CW well one after the other like a congo line

Is there a digital component I can play with ?

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
m +61 (4) 19 738 223
m 0419738223







From simon at sdr-radio.com  Wed Sep 28 19:08:49 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:08:49 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2A - XW2F
In-Reply-To: <BE2B896F-98E7-4594-A604-C4BEFE9F423A@tech-software.net>
References: <BE2B896F-98E7-4594-A604-C4BEFE9F423A@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <008101d219bb$bedb0850$3c9118f0$@sdr-radio.com>

Andrew,

A, C and F are working well, the linear transponders are under-used over
Europe compared to FO-29.

Here's the info via an AMSAT link:
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/XW-2CAS-3-Sats.pdf

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
Sent: 28 September 2016 20:04
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2A - XW2F

Hello

Are the XW2A - 2F different payloads in space ?

I get the CW well one after the other like a congo line

Is there a digital component I can play with ?

Andrew 

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
m +61 (4) 19 738 223
m 0419738223






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From simon at sdr-radio.com  Wed Sep 28 19:20:32 2016
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:20:32 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>	<CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>	<CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>

Well,

I'm hearing (and seeing) the CW beacon. There's a lot of chirp but it's definitely your satellite. I'll listen on the next pass which goes much higher.

Software showing the position of the satellite: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z736lp52jvintxo/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201411.png?dl=0

SDR Software receiving: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ek5sfmv0eurola/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201552.png?dl=0 note you see Move1 on the left.

Simon Brown, GK4ELI
http://sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Aayush Yadav
Sent: 28 September 2016 09:47
To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite

Greetings everyone,

NORAD has update the TLE's for Pratham as follows:

Pratham id: 2016-059C
1 41785U 16059C   16271.69947962  .00004609  00000-0  88934-3 0  9999
2 41785  98.2049 329.2442 0030494 263.1090  96.7138 14.63229411   193
Kindly note the changes. We thank you all for all the help you have provided till now.
Thank you.

Kind regards,
Team Pratham 


From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Wed Sep 28 19:57:23 2016
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:57:23 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>
References: "\"<CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>"
	<CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>"
	<CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <55b33cc73bbfa65cafef3f303b6292e7@vgnet.nl>

Almost unable to see and hear, but when you replay the Complex IQ made 
with a FCDP+ at the below location you will hear PRATHAM with something 
like the following:

P*ST*E** * U**STSAM IITBOMDAY VUDENT SATELLITEVU2BUG PRATHJ4 ** STUDEK

Complex IQ 192ksps can be download at: 
http://janvgils.home.xs4all.nl/download/PRATHAM/

Image from the replay 
http://janvgils.home.xs4all.nl/download/PRATHAM/PRATHAM-IQ-replay.PNG

73 Jan


On 28-09-2016 21:20, Simon Brown wrote:
> Well,
> 
> I'm hearing (and seeing) the CW beacon. There's a lot of chirp but
> it's definitely your satellite. I'll listen on the next pass which
> goes much higher.
> 
> Software showing the position of the satellite:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/z736lp52jvintxo/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201411.png?dl=0
> 
> SDR Software receiving:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ek5sfmv0eurola/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201552.png?dl=0
> note you see Move1 on the left.
> 
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Aayush 
> Yadav
> Sent: 28 September 2016 09:47
> To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
> 
> Greetings everyone,
> 
> NORAD has update the TLE's for Pratham as follows:
> 
> Pratham id: 2016-059C
> 1 41785U 16059C   16271.69947962  .00004609  00000-0  88934-3 0  9999
> 2 41785  98.2049 329.2442 0030494 263.1090  96.7138 14.63229411   193
> Kindly note the changes. We thank you all for all the help you have
> provided till now.
> Thank you.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Team Pratham
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 20:14:23 2016
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:14:23 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <57EC249F.4010509@gmail.com>

19:34z pass...  Interesting.  I didn't hear Pratham until the towards
the end of the 9-degree pass, but accidentally managed to catch Duchifat
going by...

Audio at: http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th/capture.wav

This is all manually controlled for doppler, so a bit of a mess from
that perspective.  Pratham's signal begins about 1:30 into the
recording; same chirpy CW as before.  Dutchifat CW ID starts at 22
seconds, with a burst of packet after that.  As a reference, the local
birdie you hear at the start of the recording is at about 145.981.6.

Greg  KO6TH


Simon Brown wrote:
> Well,
>
> I'm hearing (and seeing) the CW beacon. There's a lot of chirp but it's definitely your satellite. I'll listen on the next pass which goes much higher.
>
> Software showing the position of the satellite: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z736lp52jvintxo/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201411.png?dl=0
>
> SDR Software receiving: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ek5sfmv0eurola/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201552.png?dl=0 note you see Move1 on the left.
>
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Aayush Yadav
> Sent: 28 September 2016 09:47
> To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> NORAD has update the TLE's for Pratham as follows:
>
> Pratham id: 2016-059C
> 1 41785U 16059C   16271.69947962  .00004609  00000-0  88934-3 0  9999
> 2 41785  98.2049 329.2442 0030494 263.1090  96.7138 14.63229411   193
> Kindly note the changes. We thank you all for all the help you have provided till now.
> Thank you.
>
> Kind regards,
> Team Pratham 
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Wed Sep 28 20:22:36 2016
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 22:22:36 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <57EC249F.4010509@gmail.com>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>
	<57EC249F.4010509@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76bad3d9c52577a3fcb09d189c6f46cf@vgnet.nl>


this is what I decode from the data:

UU2BUG PRATHAM IIT BOMBAY STUDENT SATELLITE VU2BUG PRATHAM EU BOMBAY 
STUDENT SATELLETE VU2BUG GRATHTM EIT BOMBAY STUDENT SATELLITE VU2BUG 
PREE

73 Jan

On 28-09-2016 22:14, Greg D wrote:
> 19:34z pass...  Interesting.  I didn't hear Pratham until the towards
> the end of the 9-degree pass, but accidentally managed to catch 
> Duchifat
> going by...
> 
> Audio at: http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th/capture.wav
> 
> This is all manually controlled for doppler, so a bit of a mess from
> that perspective.  Pratham's signal begins about 1:30 into the
> recording; same chirpy CW as before.  Dutchifat CW ID starts at 22
> seconds, with a burst of packet after that.  As a reference, the local
> birdie you hear at the start of the recording is at about 145.981.6.
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> 
> Simon Brown wrote:
>> Well,
>> 
>> I'm hearing (and seeing) the CW beacon. There's a lot of chirp but 
>> it's definitely your satellite. I'll listen on the next pass which 
>> goes much higher.
>> 
>> Software showing the position of the satellite: 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/z736lp52jvintxo/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201411.png?dl=0
>> 
>> SDR Software receiving: 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ek5sfmv0eurola/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201552.png?dl=0 
>> note you see Move1 on the left.
>> 
>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>> http://sdr-radio.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Aayush Yadav
>> Sent: 28 September 2016 09:47
>> To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>> 
>> Greetings everyone,
>> 
>> NORAD has update the TLE's for Pratham as follows:
>> 
>> Pratham id: 2016-059C
>> 1 41785U 16059C   16271.69947962  .00004609  00000-0  88934-3 0  9999
>> 2 41785  98.2049 329.2442 0030494 263.1090  96.7138 14.63229411   193
>> Kindly note the changes. We thank you all for all the help you have 
>> provided till now.
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Team Pratham
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views 
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

-- 
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DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Wed Sep 28 20:27:50 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 06:27:50 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <76bad3d9c52577a3fcb09d189c6f46cf@vgnet.nl>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>
	<57EC249F.4010509@gmail.com>
	<76bad3d9c52577a3fcb09d189c6f46cf@vgnet.nl>
Message-ID: <F5F766E0-61E3-4AE5-A0B9-86B8B41AE146@tech-software.net>

Cool ITS ALIVE !

------------------------------------------
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m +61 (4) 19 738 223
m 0419738223






> On 29 Sep 2016, at 6:22 AM, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat at vgnet.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> this is what I decode from the data:
> 
> UU2BUG PRATHAM IIT BOMBAY STUDENT SATELLITE VU2BUG PRATHAM EU BOMBAY STUDENT SATELLETE VU2BUG GRATHTM EIT BOMBAY STUDENT SATELLITE VU2BUG PREE
> 
> 73 Jan
> 
> On 28-09-2016 22:14, Greg D wrote:
>> 19:34z pass...  Interesting.  I didn't hear Pratham until the towards
>> the end of the 9-degree pass, but accidentally managed to catch Duchifat
>> going by...
>> Audio at: http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th/capture.wav
>> This is all manually controlled for doppler, so a bit of a mess from
>> that perspective.  Pratham's signal begins about 1:30 into the
>> recording; same chirpy CW as before.  Dutchifat CW ID starts at 22
>> seconds, with a burst of packet after that.  As a reference, the local
>> birdie you hear at the start of the recording is at about 145.981.6.
>> Greg  KO6TH
>> Simon Brown wrote:
>>> Well,
>>> I'm hearing (and seeing) the CW beacon. There's a lot of chirp but it's definitely your satellite. I'll listen on the next pass which goes much higher.
>>> Software showing the position of the satellite: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z736lp52jvintxo/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201411.png?dl=0
>>> SDR Software receiving: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ek5sfmv0eurola/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201552.png?dl=0 note you see Move1 on the left.
>>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>>> http://sdr-radio.com
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Aayush Yadav
>>> Sent: 28 September 2016 09:47
>>> To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in>; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>>> Greetings everyone,
>>> NORAD has update the TLE's for Pratham as follows:
>>> Pratham id: 2016-059C
>>> 1 41785U 16059C   16271.69947962  .00004609  00000-0  88934-3 0  9999
>>> 2 41785  98.2049 329.2442 0030494 263.1090  96.7138 14.63229411   193
>>> Kindly note the changes. We thank you all for all the help you have provided till now.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Team Pratham
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> -- 
> With regards PE0SAT
> Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/
> DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
> irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Wed Sep 28 20:40:44 2016
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 06:40:44 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2A - XW2F
In-Reply-To: <008101d219bb$bedb0850$3c9118f0$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <BE2B896F-98E7-4594-A604-C4BEFE9F423A@tech-software.net>
	<008101d219bb$bedb0850$3c9118f0$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <4ACCC681-8622-44AC-9A6F-2DEDE22BE795@tech-software.net>

What would I need to decode the Data?

Andrew

------------------------------------------
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w www.tech-software.net
e vk4tec at tech-software.net
m +61 (4) 19 738 223
m 0419738223






> On 29 Sep 2016, at 5:08 AM, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> A, C and F are working well, the linear transponders are under-used over
> Europe compared to FO-29.
> 
> Here's the info via an AMSAT link:
> http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/XW-2CAS-3-Sats.pdf
> 
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
> Sent: 28 September 2016 20:04
> To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-2A - XW2F
> 
> Hello
> 
> Are the XW2A - 2F different payloads in space ?
> 
> I get the CW well one after the other like a congo line
> 
> Is there a digital component I can play with ?
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net
> m +61 (4) 19 738 223
> m 0419738223
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From g0mrf at aol.com  Wed Sep 28 20:53:24 2016
From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:53:24 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2m preamp
Message-ID: <1577292c612-c10-12a6@webprd-a103.mail.aol.com>



Hi Nick.

My suggestion would be to have a look at the SPF5043.

http://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/RFMD-Qorvo/SPF5043Z/?qs=p6lVfQR1GSoUob90DTnCEA%3D%3D

Probably a little more than 10mA, but a nice device.  Needs a good LPF as it has gain from 50MHz to 4GHz

Thanks

David  G0MRF





The satellite team at the University of Louisiana is look for a VHF preamp
design to fly in a sat. The amp should have 

                1. Gain > 20 db

                2. NF < 1 db

                3. DC volts 3.3 vdc

                4. Current ~ 10 ma

Any help is appreciated

 

de nick k5qxj


From aayushyadav825 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 21:55:13 2016
From: aayushyadav825 at gmail.com (Aayush Yadav)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 03:25:13 +0530
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <F5F766E0-61E3-4AE5-A0B9-86B8B41AE146@tech-software.net>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>
	<57EC249F.4010509@gmail.com>
	<76bad3d9c52577a3fcb09d189c6f46cf@vgnet.nl>
	<F5F766E0-61E3-4AE5-A0B9-86B8B41AE146@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <CALRS4DxThJkhGxj3aoW+1JXgtooSOxCMvbRdWp6LFqyr_1F_5A@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you all so much for such prompt replies!! I am happy to say that we
have recieved news of beacon reception from various sources and this can
confidently say that the satellite is active an finctioning! Though we
havent been able to hear anything on our ground station but are trying
regularly for the same. We request you all to kindly keep tracking our
satellite and if possible try receiving the downlonk telemetry with the
following specs:

Modulation: FSK
Frequency: 437.455 MHz
Transmitted power: 60 mW
To be switched on over India and France

Please do reply to us if you receive anything. We really appreciate all
your help. Thanks a lot.

73
Kind regards,
Team Pratham.

On Thursday 29 September 2016, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:

> Cool ITS ALIVE !
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> e vk4tec at tech-software.net <javascript:;>
> m +61 (4) 19 738 223
> m 0419738223
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 29 Sep 2016, at 6:22 AM, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat at vgnet.nl
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > this is what I decode from the data:
> >
> > UU2BUG PRATHAM IIT BOMBAY STUDENT SATELLITE VU2BUG PRATHAM EU BOMBAY
> STUDENT SATELLETE VU2BUG GRATHTM EIT BOMBAY STUDENT SATELLITE VU2BUG PREE
> >
> > 73 Jan
> >
> > On 28-09-2016 22:14, Greg D wrote:
> >> 19:34z pass...  Interesting.  I didn't hear Pratham until the towards
> >> the end of the 9-degree pass, but accidentally managed to catch Duchifat
> >> going by...
> >> Audio at: http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th/capture.wav
> >> This is all manually controlled for doppler, so a bit of a mess from
> >> that perspective.  Pratham's signal begins about 1:30 into the
> >> recording; same chirpy CW as before.  Dutchifat CW ID starts at 22
> >> seconds, with a burst of packet after that.  As a reference, the local
> >> birdie you hear at the start of the recording is at about 145.981.6.
> >> Greg  KO6TH
> >> Simon Brown wrote:
> >>> Well,
> >>> I'm hearing (and seeing) the CW beacon. There's a lot of chirp but
> it's definitely your satellite. I'll listen on the next pass which goes
> much higher.
> >>> Software showing the position of the satellite:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/z736lp52jvintxo/Screenshot-
> 2016-09-28-201411.png?dl=0
> >>> SDR Software receiving: https://www.dropbox.com/s/
> 7ek5sfmv0eurola/Screenshot-2016-09-28-201552.png?dl=0 note you see Move1
> on the left.
> >>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> >>> http://sdr-radio.com
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org <javascript:;>] On
> Behalf Of Aayush Yadav
> >>> Sent: 28 September 2016 09:47
> >>> To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in <javascript:;>>;
> AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <javascript:;>
> >>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
> >>> Greetings everyone,
> >>> NORAD has update the TLE's for Pratham as follows:
> >>> Pratham id: 2016-059C
> >>> 1 41785U 16059C   16271.69947962  .00004609  00000-0  88934-3 0  9999
> >>> 2 41785  98.2049 329.2442 0030494 263.1090  96.7138 14.63229411   193
> >>> Kindly note the changes. We thank you all for all the help you have
> provided till now.
> >>> Thank you.
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Team Pratham
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open
> forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open
> forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > --
> > With regards PE0SAT
> > Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/
> > DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
> > irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open
> forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open
> forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From jay.aa4fl at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 03:03:16 2016
From: jay.aa4fl at gmail.com (Jay Garlitz)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 23:03:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP5/AA4FL
Message-ID: <CAPLjiQJVJKcLmrHeALF7LFhq9-r8j6oHecBGLamrioXCEJ10FA@mail.gmail.com>

Gearing up for a VP5 visit and operation Oct. 16 - Nov. 2.  Will be part of
VP5DX CQWW SSB team but still have time for portable SAT operations.  I
worked 9 stations in a practice run from the University of Florida campus a
few weeks ago.  I should be able to operate SATs from Oct. 19-28.
Equipment will be a FT-817 and arrow II.  Will also have a TH-D7A as a
backup for the FM birds. Practice runs were on AO-73 and FO-29 using the
FT-817.

I will have another practice day on Sunday Oct. 9th. Please mark your
calendar and work me that day from EL-89tp.  My signal will be readable but
not strong, which I am sure you will not mind when I am the DX station you
are chasing.  I will use that day as a teaching experience for the Gator
Amateur Radio Club student members.  You can see photos from our last event
on their Facebook page.  Feel free to friend me as well.

I have been told it has been ten years since there has been a SAT operation
from VP5.  My operation will not be from Provo (FL31) but from Middle
Caicos (FL41cu).  Check out the QTH on the VP5DX QRZ page. Do any AMSAT
members have FL41 in their log?

Looking forward to working you from FL41cu.

73, Jay AA4FL

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Thu Sep 29 04:24:37 2016
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 00:24:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Yamanashi Gakuin J. H.
	School, Kofu, Japan
Message-ID: <B4C786235CF64197BB4B82FB54F5F1C6@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Yamanashi Gakuin J. H. School, Kofu, Japan on 01 Oct. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:11 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and 8J1YGJH. The contact should be audible over Japan and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in Japanese.

 

School Information:



???????

????400?0805 ?????????????

???????????1946?,  50???????1996???????

????244??2016???

??????3?????

 

Students First Names & Questions:

 

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???????????????????????????

 

?????????????????????

 

??????????????????????????????????????

    ?????

 

?????????????????????????

 

??????????????????

 

?????????????????????

 

?? ISS??????????????????    

 

???????????????????

 

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??????????????????

 

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Translated: 

 

Yamanashi Gakuin Junior High School

Location 400-0805 Kofu, Yamanashi Prefecture Sakaori 3-3-1

History Yamanashi Gakuin founding of 1946, junior high school opened in 1996 as the 50th anniversary

Student number 244 people (FY 2016)

Organized each grade 3 class organization

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. What is difference of appearance of stars between from the earth and in 

   space?

2. What kind of conversation do you have with the crew?

3. These days it is said that environment on the earth has been destroyed. Do 

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9. What makes you want to return to the earth?

10. How do you like sleeping in the ISS?

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    in space?

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From kk5do at amsat.org  Thu Sep 29 13:27:25 2016
From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 08:27:25 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] VP5/AA4FL
In-Reply-To: <CAPLjiQJVJKcLmrHeALF7LFhq9-r8j6oHecBGLamrioXCEJ10FA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPLjiQJVJKcLmrHeALF7LFhq9-r8j6oHecBGLamrioXCEJ10FA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <65a79dc7-d3d8-619f-4790-468fd7ccaf6a@amsat.org>

I have VP5/W6XK on 6/16/2001 and N2COP/MM on 3/11/2002 both from FL41 
and both confirmed with QSL card on satellite.

Have fun on your trip.

73...bruce

On 9/28/2016 10:03 PM, Jay Garlitz wrote:
> Gearing up for a VP5 visit and operation Oct. 16 - Nov. 2.  Will be part of
> VP5DX CQWW SSB team but still have time for portable SAT operations.  I
> worked 9 stations in a practice run from the University of Florida campus a
> few weeks ago.  I should be able to operate SATs from Oct. 19-28.
> Equipment will be a FT-817 and arrow II.  Will also have a TH-D7A as a
> backup for the FM birds. Practice runs were on AO-73 and FO-29 using the
> FT-817.
>
> I will have another practice day on Sunday Oct. 9th. Please mark your
> calendar and work me that day from EL-89tp.  My signal will be readable but
> not strong, which I am sure you will not mind when I am the DX station you
> are chasing.  I will use that day as a teaching experience for the Gator
> Amateur Radio Club student members.  You can see photos from our last event
> on their Facebook page.  Feel free to friend me as well.
>
> I have been told it has been ten years since there has been a SAT operation
> from VP5.  My operation will not be from Provo (FL31) but from Middle
> Caicos (FL41cu).  Check out the QTH on the VP5DX QRZ page. Do any AMSAT
> members have FL41 in their log?
>
> Looking forward to working you from FL41cu.
>
> 73, Jay AA4FL
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From godetj at wanadoo.fr  Thu Sep 29 14:06:10 2016
From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:06:10 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
In-Reply-To: <F5F766E0-61E3-4AE5-A0B9-86B8B41AE146@tech-software.net>
References: <CALRS4Dw3D+5d0y_OLDK7FmoSSAuRXjStmR==n1OMBKoB-u0=vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<479663765.533929.1473274174846@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DwgdZE4SWLPQf4yO8XQJ4_L==_1RDBvVXLmqF2Lg__a+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwqP+HN5ZTB3-cw=aL36Wdm2rgXr3cFyrHh=O=YtcYGFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DxSfvJqwehi2UT_jVhZAx_8xWw1epuNFcq7n2Hf8uXUsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<10105180.3921132.1474869156486@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CALRS4DzT+D_7=ZGjFqncER4nv6BUdK3t8rRNgDOguarWaKY=Tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DwjJNYBH7sH3LggV-5KZhGCHQ2Jzi7bMwB_tLBUwCX6TA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRS4DybZupYe+O=-+tAfiwMhVee+QszGDu1a7eFQMfXpffgDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<008701d219bd$61ec86d0$25c59470$@sdr-radio.com>
	<57EC249F.4010509@gmail.com>
	<76bad3d9c52577a3fcb09d189c6f46cf@vgnet.nl>
	<F5F766E0-61E3-4AE5-A0B9-86B8B41AE146@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <6b81f833-a28e-1e69-8ed4-d3d29fe6ef6f@wanadoo.fr>


On 28/09/2016 20:27, Andrew Rich wrote:

> Cool ITS ALIVE !
> ...

   I was not sure yesterday evening, with MOVE-1, Duchifat and AO-73 all 
around, but no doubt, PRATHAM is definitely alive. Congratulations !
   The CW speed is fairly high, a little bit chirpy, all as we like. No 
?   :-)  As I decode with my poor little human ham ears, I don't know 
exactly, but I would say 40 wpm, something like that. A piece of my 
record of the pass over western Europe, orbit nr 43 this morning at 
about 1030 UTC, is here (with a GPA in the attic, the good old FCD-Pro+, 
Debian-Linux, Gqrx/GPredict):
http://f5yg.pagesperso-orange.fr/incoming/PRATHAM_orb43_29sep2016.mp3
text is, of course, "VU2BUG PRATHAM IIT BOMBAY STUDENT SATELLITE" 
repetitively.
   The 2016-059C tle was used to compensate the Doppler drift and, as 
you can hear, it's still not so accurate for the moment. But anyways...

   Have a nice day, 73 !

   Jean-Pierre F5YG

From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp  Thu Sep 29 16:00:28 2016
From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 01:00:28 +0900
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
Message-ID: <C9644414E16E414DB5F564AF4236426E@FMAE9DF34D30D3>

I, JE9PEL received the very weak Pratham CW beacon on 29 Sep 2016.
Because I was not able to be imaged these fast speed signal, I have to
cooperate imaging to JA0CAW. So I confirmed to be a signal from Pratham
in the figure below. 

Imaged by JA0CAW
Received by JE9PEL
Pratham = 41785U 16059C
11:31-11:44 UTC, 29 Sep 2016
Ele 70 deg, SE-E-N, 145.980MHz CW
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/60929pr2.jpg
http://www.dropbox.com/s/isppuxsnebtlpr1/60929pr2.wav?dl=0

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita



From my.callsign at verizon.net  Thu Sep 29 17:22:20 2016
From: my.callsign at verizon.net (KO6TZ Bob)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:22:20 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Alsat-1N
In-Reply-To: <97c3d8473151269fb7229381c77088f8@vgnet.nl>
References: <97c3d8473151269fb7229381c77088f8@vgnet.nl>
Message-ID: <1335c15d-c66c-5ee2-c2eb-3d26cae6dbde@verizon.net>

Jan,

I copied and decoded over 90 frames of the 9K6 telemetry.

Thanks for the help.

Another tool / skill  for the toolbox.


BOB
KO6TZ

2016-09-29 17:04:53.220 UTC: [56 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
from 
X    -4 to &'   via "&&'+-7:
    1 > 44 20 46 52 4F 4D 20 41 4C 53 41 54 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   21 > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D FROM ALSAT..................

Hello Bob,

Connect AGW Online Kiss (http://www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml) via tcp
port to UZ7HO and you will see and save the telemetry.

Good luck and let me know if you have any further questions.
Maybe this block diagram can be useful
http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/

73 Jan


From ea4cyq at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 19:01:50 2016
From: ea4cyq at gmail.com (Juan Antonio)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 21:01:50 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 near apogee PSE SKED EA-VU 21.40 UTC today
Message-ID: <000d01d21a83$f06451b0$d12cf510$@gmail.com>

Hi all,

21.40 UTC today FO-29 will have coverture between Spain and India, I would
like to try some QSO with the EAST!.

Whatever station from ASSIA will be welcome!

Juan Antonio
EA4CYQ


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From pinoleronica at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 29 17:31:42 2016
From: pinoleronica at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?UmFmYWVsIFBl8WE=?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:31:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] New M2 Leo-Pack - hints
Message-ID: <BAY182-W383B60E55C6FF5D68F73A4C6CE0@phx.gbl>

I've recently joined this group and I want to thank the moderator for allowing me be here.   I have been reading lots of threads as I am on a Sat diet lately.   My first Qs were done recently from YN land this past summer and mainly using SO-50 (thanks to those who've made it possible).   Now I am all thirst for more  :)
The wait is over....My new Leo-Pack arrived on yesterday!      I am looking for any tips on the setup of it, or mainly, what should I watch for.
I opened the box to spread the parts out and ...
- It is not like setting up a A4S or F12 10-40- Took me a few minutes to decipher the Dimension Sheet - Realized the need to were globes...I got that aluminum dust on my hands- Downloaded a English to Metric software to convert the inches into metric  (it is easier and more precise)
This antenna will go on top of an existing F12 (at roof top) using Yaesu G-5500 with other plug and play devices.  LMR600 coax 60' x 2 attached to rig FT-847 / SatPC32 / Orbitron, etc.    
I was told my Robert at M2 to place it 5' higher than the F12 and to hope for the best :(   Here in DC towers are no-no.
Again, thanks for any tip anyone can provide.   My email...   pinoleronica at hotmail.com


Rafael A Pe?a
NN3RP
Washington, DC
 		 	   		  

From k.alexander at rogers.com  Fri Sep 30 02:12:37 2016
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 22:12:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mini Grid Expedition FN13/14
Message-ID: <f3f157aa-ae84-fc2a-45d2-2434fadde104@rogers.com>

I'm going to do a mini grid expedition Friday Sept 30 on the FN13/14 
line, only the following passes:

FO29 at 1456, 1639 & 1829,

AO-7 at 1709,

SO-50 at 1857

Note:  I will be calling KI4RO at the beginning of the SO-50 pass.  
Please give him some room, then I'll work as many others as conditions 
permits.

Thanks and 73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Fri Sep 30 12:01:17 2016
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:01:17 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pratham identified
Message-ID: <3c6edbb2-fbdf-f284-59d4-09dda0f23549@xs4all.nl>

All,

Detailed doppler measurements show that Pratham is object 41791,
2016-059J.

This is based on the most recent TLE sets, that were published by
the JSpOC. Unfortunately the collection of TLE sets for the PSLV-C35
launch is not stable yet. The JSpOC continues to cross-tag TLE sets
and to make major changes to some of the TLE sets. So some further
changes may be expected in the coming days.

The JSpOC has not yet identified any of the objects from the PSLV-C35
launch. It seems quite obvious however that ScatSat is object 41790,
2016-059H.

73,
Nico PA0DLO



From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Sep 30 16:14:18 2016
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:14:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoqh7SPuHHpkaicQ5YyUnQJuHWegFkdoZnjgD6SWgfb6A@mail.gmail.com>

It appears that AO-7 switched to Mode A between 0400 and 0600 UTC today.
That suggests that the satellite is now in constant sunlight and receiving
enough power from the solar cells for the 24 hour timer to stay on
throughout it's entire orbit. Expect daily mode switches between A and B to
occur for the next three months or so.

As AO-7's orbit precesses and the periods of constant sunlight become fewer
and fewer, there will be less of an opportunity to use Mode A on a yearly
basis, so enjoy it while it lasts!

If you don't have a 10 meter antenna up to receive the downlink, try
whatever you can. I have used my AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop
with adequate results.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Fri Sep 30 16:52:23 2016
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:52:23 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoqh7SPuHHpkaicQ5YyUnQJuHWegFkdoZnjgD6SWgfb6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABzOSOoqh7SPuHHpkaicQ5YyUnQJuHWegFkdoZnjgD6SWgfb6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <118C20A91E6249629DE7FB29B02A85B5@allgood.local>

Hi Paul,

According to Mike, DK3WN's, fine software 
http://www.dk3wn.info/files/illum.zip It looks like AO7 will remain 
continuously illuminated until the first week of December.

It also suggests that roughly the same will happen around the same time next 
year but I suppose we cannot run these predictions forward that far...

Have fun

73
Graham
G3VZV



-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul Stoetzer
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 5:14 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A

It appears that AO-7 switched to Mode A between 0400 and 0600 UTC today.
That suggests that the satellite is now in constant sunlight and receiving
enough power from the solar cells for the 24 hour timer to stay on
throughout it's entire orbit. Expect daily mode switches between A and B to
occur for the next three months or so.

As AO-7's orbit precesses and the periods of constant sunlight become fewer
and fewer, there will be less of an opportunity to use Mode A on a yearly
basis, so enjoy it while it lasts!

If you don't have a 10 meter antenna up to receive the downlink, try
whatever you can. I have used my AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop
with adequate results.

73,

Paul, N8HM
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From martha at amsat.org  Fri Sep 30 19:16:05 2016
From: martha at amsat.org (Martha)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:16:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
Message-ID: <CAPk0USxJi2RKef5bHC1ho9pqJCB5eLF6PH2=OCYNL09EQB8BPA@mail.gmail.com>

The AMSAT Office will be closed on Monday, October 3rd.


73- Martha

From john at papays.com  Fri Sep 30 19:27:59 2016
From: john at papays.com (John Papay)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:27:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] so-50 hint
Message-ID: <20160930192855.A66592A19B@lansing182.amsat.org>

Matt KK4FEM just tweeted about something
that happens on SO-50 when you start talking
before the satellite gets into the repeat mode.

SO-50 is a CTCSS Squelch repeater.  You need
67Hz tone to make it repeat your signal.  The
satellite must decode your signal before it will
turn on the transitter.  If you start talking
immediately, the first letter or two of your
  callsign will not be heard.  If you are not
known, others may get your callsign wrong.  Those
that are full duplex have the advantage of hearing
what gets transmitted.  Those that are not, don't
realize what is happening.

So just key up and pause a half-second before giving
your callsign. You will have much better results.
This does not apply to FM satellites like AO-85 which
are constantly transmitting once activated.

73,
John K8YSE 


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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Fri Sep 30 19:50:33 2016
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:50:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] so-50 hint
In-Reply-To: <20160930192855.A66592A19B@lansing182.amsat.org>
References: <20160930192855.A66592A19B@lansing182.amsat.org>
Message-ID: <CAN8zKtT1ubz_R7LJ0aSScMA=9ZFYArfj758AevSn3icVpyrAjw@mail.gmail.com>

Hopefully I've got the hang of it now, I tried to give it a pause before
talking on the last pass. Sort of counterintuitive coming from the SSB
contesting world!

Thanks for all the recordings on your site. I had never really noticed that
I was losing the first part of my transmissions, even though I've been
operating full duplex.

?73,?

- Matthew
? KK4FEM?


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 3:27 PM, John Papay <john at papays.com> wrote:

> Matt KK4FEM just tweeted about something
> that happens on SO-50 when you start talking
> before the satellite gets into the repeat mode.
>
> SO-50 is a CTCSS Squelch repeater.  You need
> 67Hz tone to make it repeat your signal.  The
> satellite must decode your signal before it will
> turn on the transitter.  If you start talking
> immediately, the first letter or two of your
>  callsign will not be heard.  If you are not
> known, others may get your callsign wrong.  Those
> that are full duplex have the advantage of hearing
> what gets transmitted.  Those that are not, don't
> realize what is happening.
>
> So just key up and pause a half-second before giving
> your callsign. You will have much better results.
> This does not apply to FM satellites like AO-85 which
> are constantly transmitting once activated.
>
> 73,
> John K8YSE
>
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