[amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?

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Andrew Rich VK4TEC
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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
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> Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions. 
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> As stated on the website:
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> If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).  Due to the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations> (ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR Qualifications <http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US law.  Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at least modified.  If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
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> This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any AMSAT project without restriction.
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> 73,
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> Paul, N8HM
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> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
> Sorry I can’t help you
> 
> Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
> 
> That must mean they don’t trust non yanks
> 
> Andrew
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> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
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> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>> wrote:
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> > By the way
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> > My name is Andrew
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> > It would be a good start to get that right
> >
> > Andrew
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> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec at tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec at tech-software.net>
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> >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm at gmail.com <mailto:mccardelm at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com <mailto:spatrickfay at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> >>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> >>> bringing this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> >>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
> >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com <mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com <mailto:plaws0 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> >>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> >>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> >>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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