[amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?

Andrew Rich vk4tec at tech-software.net
Sun Sep 25 05:11:53 UTC 2016


That's always the way Jerry you have to see past it

My wife volunteers for the cats and dogs 

For her

Andrew

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Andrew Rich
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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:40, Jerry Buxton <n0jy at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, volunteering is volunteering.  We get an occasional pat on the
> back, if we can reach behind us that far.     ;-)
> 
> Jerry Buxton, NØJY
> 
>> On 9/24/2016 21:14, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> How much is an AMSAT membership ?
>> 
>> Can I get one in return for doing the web pages
>> 
>> Andrew 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec at tech-software.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
>>> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
>>> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
>>> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
>>> IT person either.
>>> 
>>> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
>>> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
>>> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
>>> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>>> Secretary
>>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>>>> 
>>>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>>>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The website is not up to date.
>>>> 
>>>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>>>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>>>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>>>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>>>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>>>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>>>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>>>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
>>>> advocacy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>>>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>>>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>>>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>>>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>>>> you quit looking at it?"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
>>>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
>>>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>>>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> QUOTED
>>>> 
>>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>> 
>>>> 73...bruce
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
>>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>> bringing this up.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73...bruce
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>>>> spatrickfay at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>>>> active
>>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>>>> look
>>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>>>> to
>>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>>>> never
>>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>>>> the
>>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>>>> website
>>>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>>> bringing this up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>>>> happens
>>>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>>>> no
>>>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>>>> store,
>>>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>>>> past,
>>>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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