From vk2fak at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 00:38:23 2017
From: vk2fak at gmail.com (John Mac)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 10:38:23 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] QBEE
Message-ID: <CANiF7qM9kQxk+pp_wTtbx+9ix4w=0BdAid-YpPmKDKsubPa68w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all....  I noticed on SATNOGS that QBEE had no data added for a few
days, so looked this morning and saw no signal,The following Sat's decoded
fine so not the set-up.   Any Issues with QBEE  ?

John

From pbaldock at frontier.com  Tue Aug  1 02:02:06 2017
From: pbaldock at frontier.com (Paul Baldock)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 19:02:06 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount ...
Message-ID: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount Preamp

Paul  - KW7Y


From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Tue Aug  1 01:21:57 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 11:21:57 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB UX-910 1200 MHz module
Message-ID: <BD75F682-EF5C-4447-A062-619AEC379263@internode.on.net>

Wanted to buy icom 1200 MHz module for icom 910h

A 

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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Tue Aug  1 02:18:12 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:18:12 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount ...
In-Reply-To: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <FD422399-4BF5-4265-912F-ADA040163AAD@internode.on.net>

http://www.minikits.com.au/electronic-kits/rf-amplifiers/rf-preamplifiers



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> On 1 Aug 2017, at 12:02 pm, Paul Baldock <pbaldock at frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount Preamp
> 
> Paul  - KW7Y
> 
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Tue Aug  1 02:19:57 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:19:57 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount ...
In-Reply-To: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
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http://www.minikits.com.au/eme221-70cm

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> On 1 Aug 2017, at 12:02 pm, Paul Baldock <pbaldock at frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount Preamp
> 
> Paul  - KW7Y
> 
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From cshields at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 12:21:04 2017
From: cshields at gmail.com (Corey Shields)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 08:21:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] QBEE
In-Reply-To: <CANiF7qM9kQxk+pp_wTtbx+9ix4w=0BdAid-YpPmKDKsubPa68w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANiF7qM9kQxk+pp_wTtbx+9ix4w=0BdAid-YpPmKDKsubPa68w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANnv5mZy4ozw5jHbF5Bz8FTkYtxprmUDQfmrobK0D9PrFrJweA@mail.gmail.com>

I scheduled 4 QBEE observations between US and Europe for today. Their
ID will show blue until the window has passed:

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?norad=42708

Cheers,
-Corey KB9JHU

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:38 PM, John Mac <vk2fak at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all....  I noticed on SATNOGS that QBEE had no data added for a few
> days, so looked this morning and saw no signal,The following Sat's decoded
> fine so not the set-up.   Any Issues with QBEE  ?
>
> John
> _______________________________________________
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From mjohns166 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  1 14:56:56 2017
From: mjohns166 at yahoo.com (Mark Johns)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 14:56:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount ...
In-Reply-To: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2030828168.4633777.1501599416238@mail.yahoo.com>

SHF-Elektronik Homepage

| | |??| SHF-Elektronik Homepage | | |
| |??| Marco Schleicher | | |
| |??| Low-noise mast preamplifiers for amateur radio and commercial applications from own production. Extensive type p... | | |

--?

Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ?
Minneapolis, MN EN35
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,?
? ?you would stay out and your dog would go in."?
? ? ?---Mark Twain



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WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount Preamp

Paul? - KW7Y

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From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 15:44:51 2017
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 10:44:51 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount ...
In-Reply-To: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CAJUhCTPwsteSLX_LJje5v9nu=ud+pdVtsAirpSV3LeTpaALHUA@mail.gmail.com>

I use ARR's mast mount products. They fix them for a reasonable price,
with a quick turn around.

Before purchase, decide which power handling level you need. Check the
FAQ page. 25 watt preamps handle 30 watts, max.

These are the ones I use: http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html

Preamps can and do break, operator idocy also causes faults.

http://www.advancedreceiver.com/

Norm n3ykf

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Paul Baldock <pbaldock at frontier.com> wrote:
> WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount Preamp
>
> Paul  - KW7Y
>
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From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  1 17:30:28 2017
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 17:30:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-1 spin
References: <1724060058.4161151.1501608628748.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1724060058.4161151.1501608628748@mail.yahoo.com>

Strong QSB in LilacSat-1 signal :
<http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/lilac1.htm#t>
73 de Roland PY4ZBZ

From w3ab at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  1 18:03:29 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 18:03:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount ...
In-Reply-To: <2030828168.4633777.1501599416238@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20170801020220.B1B1417578D@filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<2030828168.4633777.1501599416238@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <306745504.4804752.1501610609963@mail.yahoo.com>

http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html
http://www.mirageamp.com/Product.php?productid=KP-1/10M

http://ramseykits.com/cmp/pr40/files/assets/basic-html/page-1.html#

http://www.minikits.com.au/electronic-kits/rf-amplifiers/rf-preamplifiers

I purchased the 2M kit from the latter company. It was easy to build and was almost equal to my Icom preamp. I use it for sat coms connected to a Cushcraft A148-10S while at Burning Man.
?---? 
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
 GEO ??? 

 http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

      From: Mark Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
 To: Paul Baldock <pbaldock at frontier.com>; amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount ...
   
SHF-Elektronik Homepage

| | |??| SHF-Elektronik Homepage | | |
| |??| Marco Schleicher | | |
| |??| Low-noise mast preamplifiers for amateur radio and commercial applications from own production. Extensive type p... | | |

--?

Mark D. Johns, K?MDJ?
Minneapolis, MN EN35
-----------------------------------------------
"Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit,?
? ?you would stay out and your dog would go in."?
? ? ?---Mark Twain



________________________________
On Monday, July 31, 2017, 9:04:17 PM CDT, Paul Baldock <pbaldock at frontier.com> wrote:


WTB: 70CM UHF Mast Mount Preamp

Paul? - KW7Y

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From iu5cre at yahoo.it  Tue Aug  1 13:47:30 2017
From: iu5cre at yahoo.it (IU5CRE)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 15:47:30 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] R: D-SAT Mission
Message-ID: <017a01d30acc$b928a090$2b79e1b0$@yahoo.it>

Dear radio hams all-over the world  interested in listening D-SAT satellite,
We have activated D-SAT's beacon transmission in the following time slots during this week:

Tuesday               02-Aug-2018: FM beacon signal activated from 19:40 UTC for 12 hours at 437.509 MHz
Wednesday         03-Aug-2018: FM beacon signal activated from 18:00 UTC for 12 hours at 437.509 MHz
Thursday              04-Aug-2018: FM beacon signal activated from 18:00 UTC for 12 hours at 437.509 MHz
Friday                   05-Aug-2018: FM beacon signal activated from 18:00 UTC for 12 hours at 437.509 MHz
Saturday              06-Aug-2018: FM beacon signal activated from 18:00 UTC for 12 hours at 437.509 MHz
Sunday                 07-Aug-2018: FM beacon signal activated from 18:00 UTC for 12 hours at 437.509 MHz

Cheers,
Alessio Fanfani. IU5CRE

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From: IU5CRE via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 12:38 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] D-SAT Mission

Dear Sirs,

my name is Alessio Fanfani; I'm a young telecommunication engineer and an enthusiastic Italian satellite amateur (callsign IU5CRE).

Three years ago I started to work with D-Orbit, an Italian aerospace company, on an ambitious CubeSat mission called D-SAT.

D-Sat is a three-unit CubeSat designed, built, and operated by D-Orbit and it will be the first satellite in history that will come back into Earth's atmosphere in a safe and controlled way by means of a dedicated solid rocket motor and burn up instead of becoming new debris.

D-SAT was launched on June 23th, 2017 into a 500 km sun-synchronous orbit from Indian SHAR.

D-SAT is now fully operative in orbit and it is hosting three communication experiments in collaboration with an Italian university, high-level schools and a local hamradio community.

For more information on D-SAT, you can visit the mission's website (www.dsat.space), where you will also find a page entirely dedicated to radiohams (www.dsat.space/radiohams) where you can download the software necessary for the reception of D-Sat's signal.

We really hope you will consider joining us! Also, should you have any question about the mission, don't hesitate to ask!

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,

Alessio Fanfani, IU5CRE 

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From john at papays.com  Tue Aug  1 17:39:34 2017
From: john at papays.com (John Papay)
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 13:39:34 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards/Endorsements for July 2017
Message-ID: <20170801181250.98FB288A9@lansing182.amsat.org>

Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite
Awards issued by the ARRL for the period July 1, 2017
through August 1, 2017.
Congratulations to all those who made the list this month!

CALL	GRIDS

KD8CAO  1240
N8RO    1010
N8HM     980
N4UFO    675
WA5KBH   630
KG5CCI   616
KK4FEM   476
WD9EWK   375
PV8DX    313
NJ7H     203
KX9X     158
KA9P     150
XE3DX    117
OX/NJ7H  110 (NEW DXCC)
PT9BM    100 (NEW DXCC)

This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf
listings for July 1st and August 1st, 2017.  It's a visual
comparison so omissions are possible.  Apologies if your
call was not mentioned.  Thanks to all those who are
roving to grids that are rarely on the birds.  They are
doing most of the work!

73,
John K8YSE


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From dtabor at estesvalley.net  Tue Aug  1 18:46:58 2017
From: dtabor at estesvalley.net (dtabor at estesvalley.net)
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 12:46:58 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] Aug 5 DM99/DN90 operation
Message-ID: <346ce7b9382439ae318d5ea48801a7e9@127.0.0.1>

Heading to the Land of Oz Friday after work ... to work another DM/DN grid
line - just south of the Nebraska border.

Will be on everything I can reach from there Saturday ~ 1300-1900 UTC. 
If you need Nebraska, send me private email and I'll move to DN90 for a
pass.



From cshields at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 22:26:16 2017
From: cshields at gmail.com (Corey Shields)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 18:26:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] QBEE
In-Reply-To: <CANnv5mZy4ozw5jHbF5Bz8FTkYtxprmUDQfmrobK0D9PrFrJweA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANiF7qM9kQxk+pp_wTtbx+9ix4w=0BdAid-YpPmKDKsubPa68w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANnv5mZy4ozw5jHbF5Bz8FTkYtxprmUDQfmrobK0D9PrFrJweA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANnv5mZiD067n+y9UNRYvE3Wp5+EgsK86vemhMm8rZjn0dXygw@mail.gmail.com>

Looks alive over Australia!

https://network.satnogs.org/observations/11189/

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Corey Shields <cshields at gmail.com> wrote:
> I scheduled 4 QBEE observations between US and Europe for today. Their
> ID will show blue until the window has passed:
>
> https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?norad=42708
>
> Cheers,
> -Corey KB9JHU
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:38 PM, John Mac <vk2fak at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all....  I noticed on SATNOGS that QBEE had no data added for a few
>> days, so looked this morning and saw no signal,The following Sat's decoded
>> fine so not the set-up.   Any Issues with QBEE  ?
>>
>> John
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
>
> --
> Corey Shields



-- 
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From john at papays.com  Wed Aug  2 03:50:08 2017
From: john at papays.com (John Papay)
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 23:50:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards/Endorsements for July 2017  Correction
Message-ID: <20170802042042.712138965@lansing182.amsat.org>

The listing for OX/NJ7H and PT9BM were for
New VUCC rather than DXCC.  Thanks to K8BL for
spotting the error.
73,
John K8YSE


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From AJ9N at aol.com  Wed Aug  2 06:49:00 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 02:49:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-02 07:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <1bb55f.248a61e.46b2cfdc@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-02  07:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

VCP-Bundeszeltplatz, Gro?zerlang, Germany, direct via DP9S  
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled  astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA
Contact was successful: Tue 2017-08-01  18:20:35 UTC 46 deg (***)

Frontiers of Flight Museum/ Moon Day,  Dallas, TX, telebridge via ON4ISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to  be TBD
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA
Contact is a go:  Sat 2017-08-05 18:02:31 UTC 87  deg

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 123 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with  119

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-02 07:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1150. (***)
Each school counts  as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1109.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time  slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A  complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-02 07:00 UTC. 
(***)  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From sasb.geo at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  2 11:43:42 2017
From: sasb.geo at yahoo.com (Eduardo Erlemann)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 11:43:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards/Endorsements for July 2017  Correction
In-Reply-To: <20170802042042.712138965@lansing182.amsat.org>
References: <20170802042042.712138965@lansing182.amsat.org>
Message-ID: <2108461694.4117650.1501674222063@mail.yahoo.com>

Congratulations to all and a special goes to Gustavo, PT9BM for the first VUCC-SAT in South America (below the Equator), way to go!
73
Eduardo PY2RN

      From: John Papay <john at papays.com>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 1:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards/Endorsements for July 2017 Correction
   
The listing for OX/NJ7H and PT9BM were for
New VUCC rather than DXCC.? Thanks to K8BL for
spotting the error.
73,
John K8YSE


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From py2rn at arrl.net  Wed Aug  2 11:45:26 2017
From: py2rn at arrl.net (Eduardo PY2RN)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 11:45:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards/Endorsements for July 2017  Correction
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	<2108461694.4117650.1501674222063@mail.yahoo.com>
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Congratulations to all and a special goes to Gustavo, PT9BM for the first VUCC-SAT in South America (below the Equator), way to go!
73
Eduardo PY2RN

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 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards/Endorsements for July 2017 Correction
  
The listing for OX/NJ7H and PT9BM were for
New VUCC rather than DXCC.? Thanks to K8BL for
spotting the error.
73,
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From pa3guo at upcmail.nl  Wed Aug  2 20:03:14 2017
From: pa3guo at upcmail.nl (PA3GUO)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 22:03:14 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 & FT-817: CAT Delay ?
Message-ID: <002401d30bca$60167460$20435d20$@upcmail.nl>

My set-up:

Windows 10 & SATPC32: works perfect with TS2000 (CAT delay 20)

Now I want to connect my FT817: via a Bluetooth Dongle.
Pairing to the PC successful.

Now letting SATPC32 control the FT817:

- started with CAT delay 20: works kind off, downlink (RX VFO A): OK,
uplink (TX/VFO B): frequency not correct

- increased CAT delay (5, 10, 20, 30, 50, 60, ....110): effects start
to vary but never OK
   + at some delays flipping between VFO A and B without pressing PTT
   + freq of VFO A and B continue to be wrong 
   + often in RX VFO B is selected, pressing PTT VFO B (should be the
other way around) 

Tried at CAT rates 9600 and 38400, no differences.

Seems like a timing problem to me, as there is influence of the CAT
delay setting.

Official recommendation: CAT RATE 38400, CAT delay 110. (that does not
work though)

A friend has similar problem, when using a wired USB interface between
PC and FT-817.

Who has some tips for us ?

Henk, PA3GUO






From andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Aug  3 11:32:58 2017
From: andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:32:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] China releases cubesat from cargo vessel Tianzhou-1
References: <1268230071.1559690.1501759978365.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1268230071.1559690.1501759978365@mail.yahoo.com>

...as reported at: http://www.china.org.cn/china/2017-08/03/content_41338678.htm? 
Tianzhou-1 releases satellite in orbit- China.org.cn 
  
|  
|   |  
Tianzhou-1 releases satellite in orbit- China.org.cn
 By ??? China's first cargo spacecraft Tianzhou-1 has successfully released a tiny satellite while in orbit.  |  |

  |

 
apparently the cubesat was stored in the Tianzhou mission and released 104 days later. 

I was wondering if anyone knows of this cubesat? university origin maybe? on our frequencies maybe? at an inclination of 42 degrees it will be very low on the horizon from here in the UK.
Might be an interesting launch possibility for the future?
73 de andy g0sfj

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Aug  3 12:53:20 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 08:53:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS, AM radio and the solar Eclipse (Cloud Reporting)
Message-ID: <eb0fe18f6d353c804ba77e87757b6612@mail.gmail.com>

If you are portable on ECLIPSE day, keep your APRS object updated.



If you are in the Totality band , please use the SUNNY (\U) symbol to make
it easy to identify special Eclipse stations, and update your STATUS text
frequently as to your CLOUD cover.   NWS says some 65% ? of us will be
blocked by clouds and so a last minute race to a clear area might be
important.  (if you can move at all).



A Status like ?Clouds 25% at 1015.? fits nicely on the 10x10 line popup
display on APRS HT?s.



There may be lots of APRS Balloons that day too on 144.39 or 144.34.  After
the eclipse, use your HT and go chase one down (and meet others)!



The QIKCOM1 APRS module deployment from ISS is delayed (unknown) but other
events are listed on the HamSCI web page, below.



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
*Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 9:15 AM
*Subject:* APRS, AM and the solar Eclipse



There will be several Ham Radio experiments during the eclipse.  Please
see: http://HamSCI.org

Anyone can do the AM radio experiment by listening for the 13 clear channel
AM radio stations that are along the path of totality.  As the D layer is
darkened these stations should come up out of the noise. Check the web page
for times and frequencies.  The eclipse traverses the USA over about an
hour with any one observer seeing totality for about 2 minutes.

Also, APRS will be used during the day of the eclipse (21 Aug) for locating
those hams involved in eclipse observations to be able to see where other
nearby ham observers are located.  Imagine the APRS map that day showing a
clustering of mobile and portable positions all along the totality line.
Please use the station symbol SUNNY (\U) for this event so these stations
will stand out among all others on the national tracking page http://aprs.fi
and report Cloud cover %.

In addition to position reporting, APRS real-time messaging can be
used for direct
station-to-station texting plus the announcement server will give national
connectivity for announcements. To use it, just send an APRS message to
ANSRVR and begin the message with CQ ECLIPSE? Such a message will be sent
to every other station in the event that has also sent a similar message.
Due to the load, limit transmissions to no more often than once every half
hour.

Bob Bruninga, WB4APR at amsat.org

From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Aug  3 13:35:35 2017
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 09:35:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS
Message-ID: <0b0dbbed1c99e13e3604e5ab694a9423@etczone.com>

With the ISS APRS down, probably for months, I've been looking to NO-84
for orbiting APRS action. But it seems that NO-84 has been APOFF quite a
bit, leaving no active APRS transponders in space (that I am aware of). 

Can we get a status report on NO-84 and, for folks like me who aren't
sure where to look for such info, some info on any other APRS
transponder satellites? 

Thank you! 

Steve AI9IN

From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Aug  3 14:04:18 2017
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 10:04:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS
In-Reply-To: <0E9498B3CE2944B295485450FEF00728@DESKTOP8A7S6MK>
References: <0b0dbbed1c99e13e3604e5ab694a9423@etczone.com>
	<0E9498B3CE2944B295485450FEF00728@DESKTOP8A7S6MK>
Message-ID: <433ff20e6bbdbd74c0d0642f7cafee16@etczone.com>

Thanks. 

I was hoping for a little more long-term outlook with respect to NO-84.
As best I can tell from clicking on the satellites that have links,
there are no other satellites that have APRS transponder capabilities.
Is that correct? 

Steve AI9IN

On 2017-08-03 09:47, W2JV wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> You can look at the AMSAT Status Page, have fun. http://www.amsat.org/status/
> 
> Best,
> 
> Peter, W2JV
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: skristof at etczone.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:35 AM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS
> 
> With the ISS APRS down, probably for months, I've been looking to NO-84
> for orbiting APRS action. But it seems that NO-84 has been APOFF quite a
> bit, leaving no active APRS transponders in space (that I am aware of).
> 
> Can we get a status report on NO-84 and, for folks like me who aren't
> sure where to look for such info, some info on any other APRS
> transponder satellites?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Steve AI9IN
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Thu Aug  3 14:19:13 2017
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 07:19:13 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS
In-Reply-To: <433ff20e6bbdbd74c0d0642f7cafee16@etczone.com>
References: <0b0dbbed1c99e13e3604e5ab694a9423@etczone.com>
	<0E9498B3CE2944B295485450FEF00728@DESKTOP8A7S6MK>
	<433ff20e6bbdbd74c0d0642f7cafee16@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUcCtBJxM4=vL0CEbt6YooUqRKgmhMZfv4kEtyHZRfauUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Steve,

Probably the closest thing to a status report on the health
of NO-84 is available from Mike DK3WN:

http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?cat=254

DK3WN is one of the command stations for NO-84, and he is
able to switch on the APRS digipeater when he feels the
satellite can handle it. His last blog entry related to
that satellite was from last week, where he commented that
"digipeater should remain off". Along with his web site,
DK3WN is also on Twitter as @DK3WN where he also posts
information related to NO-84. If you're not on Twitter, you
can read his tweets in a browser at:

http://twitter.com/DK3WN

In terms of APRS digipeaters operating on 145.825 MHz,
NO-84 is off, ISS is down, and from an earlier -BB post
it looks like QIKCOM-1 (another satellite with an APRS
transponder on 145.825 MHz):

http://aprs.org/qikcom-1.html

has been delayed in its deployment from the ISS. We'll
have to be patient...

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK





On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:04 AM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> I was hoping for a little more long-term outlook with respect to NO-84.
> As best I can tell from clicking on the satellites that have links,
> there are no other satellites that have APRS transponder capabilities.
> Is that correct?
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Aug  3 14:30:47 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 10:30:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS (and PSK31)
Message-ID: <0ac08944727d573182953bc2c9c212b0@mail.gmail.com>

So, while digipeater is off, now is a good time to play with PSAT (NO84's)
PSK31 transponder which we try to always keep on.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From:  Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS

Probably the closest thing to a status report on the health of NO-84 is
available from Mike DK3WN:

http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?cat=254

DK3WN is one of the command stations for NO-84, and he is able to switch
on the APRS digipeater when he feels the satellite can handle it. His last
blog entry related to that satellite was from last week, where he
commented that "digipeater should remain off". Along with his web site,
DK3WN is also on Twitter as @DK3WN where he also posts information related
to NO-84. If you're not on Twitter, you can read his tweets in a browser
at:

http://twitter.com/DK3WN

In terms of APRS digipeaters operating on 145.825 MHz,
NO-84 is off, ISS is down, and from an earlier -BB post it looks like
QIKCOM-1 (another satellite with an APRS transponder on 145.825 MHz):

http://aprs.org/qikcom-1.html

has been delayed in its deployment from the ISS. We'll have to be
patient...

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK





On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:04 AM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> I was hoping for a little more long-term outlook with respect to NO-84.
> As best I can tell from clicking on the satellites that have links,
> there are no other satellites that have APRS transponder capabilities.
> Is that correct?
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
>
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From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Aug  3 14:38:38 2017
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 10:38:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS (and PSK31)
In-Reply-To: <0ac08944727d573182953bc2c9c212b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0ac08944727d573182953bc2c9c212b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <107db85d0e802bb13a821152bac905f9@etczone.com>

Thank you Bob and Patrick. I was not aware of the DK3WN website. I'll
check that out. 

As I am soon to be retired, PSK31 via NO-84 may be just the kind of
project I need to keep me out of trouble! 

Steve AI9IN

On 2017-08-03 10:30, Robert Bruninga wrote:

> So, while digipeater is off, now is a good time to play with PSAT (NO84's)
> PSK31 transponder which we try to always keep on.
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS
> 
> Probably the closest thing to a status report on the health of NO-84 is
> available from Mike DK3WN:
> 
> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?cat=254
> 
> DK3WN is one of the command stations for NO-84, and he is able to switch
> on the APRS digipeater when he feels the satellite can handle it. His last
> blog entry related to that satellite was from last week, where he
> commented that "digipeater should remain off". Along with his web site,
> DK3WN is also on Twitter as @DK3WN where he also posts information related
> to NO-84. If you're not on Twitter, you can read his tweets in a browser
> at:
> 
> http://twitter.com/DK3WN
> 
> In terms of APRS digipeaters operating on 145.825 MHz,
> NO-84 is off, ISS is down, and from an earlier -BB post it looks like
> QIKCOM-1 (another satellite with an APRS transponder on 145.825 MHz):
> 
> http://aprs.org/qikcom-1.html
> 
> has been delayed in its deployment from the ISS. We'll have to be
> patient...
> 
> 73!
> 
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> 
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:04 AM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> I was hoping for a little more long-term outlook with respect to NO-84.
>> As best I can tell from clicking on the satellites that have links,
>> there are no other satellites that have APRS transponder capabilities.
>> Is that correct?
>> 
>> Steve AI9IN
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From nss at mwt.net  Thu Aug  3 14:45:39 2017
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 09:45:39 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS (and PSK31)
In-Reply-To: <0ac08944727d573182953bc2c9c212b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0ac08944727d573182953bc2c9c212b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e00330ac-a766-d8ae-3e43-329da619ba0d@mwt.net>

I agree, that PSK-31 Transponder is a BLAST! I am sad that it barely 
gets used!

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/3/2017 9:30 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> So, while digipeater is off, now is a good time to play with PSAT (NO84's)
> PSK31 transponder which we try to always keep on.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS
>
> Probably the closest thing to a status report on the health of NO-84 is
> available from Mike DK3WN:
>
> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?cat=254
>
> DK3WN is one of the command stations for NO-84, and he is able to switch
> on the APRS digipeater when he feels the satellite can handle it. His last
> blog entry related to that satellite was from last week, where he
> commented that "digipeater should remain off". Along with his web site,
> DK3WN is also on Twitter as @DK3WN where he also posts information related
> to NO-84. If you're not on Twitter, you can read his tweets in a browser
> at:
>
> http://twitter.com/DK3WN
>
> In terms of APRS digipeaters operating on 145.825 MHz,
> NO-84 is off, ISS is down, and from an earlier -BB post it looks like
> QIKCOM-1 (another satellite with an APRS transponder on 145.825 MHz):
>
> http://aprs.org/qikcom-1.html
>
> has been delayed in its deployment from the ISS. We'll have to be
> patient...
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:04 AM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I was hoping for a little more long-term outlook with respect to NO-84.
>> As best I can tell from clicking on the satellites that have links,
>> there are no other satellites that have APRS transponder capabilities.
>> Is that correct?
>>
>> Steve AI9IN
>>
>>
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From red at redwilloughby.com  Thu Aug  3 17:10:03 2017
From: red at redwilloughby.com (Red Willoughby)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 12:10:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS (and PSK31)
In-Reply-To: <e00330ac-a766-d8ae-3e43-329da619ba0d@mwt.net>
References: <e00330ac-a766-d8ae-3e43-329da619ba0d@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <384c443c-6e65-f65d-76ab-5cc3eb6a7342@redwilloughby.com>

I have tried to digipeat thru NO-84 a number of times in the past, but 
the signal always seemed to be very weak, even on high passes. I have 
never gotten a packet repeated through it. I have tried via both ARISS 
and PSAT. I am pretty sure my station is set up properly because I have 
made quite a few complete QSOs thru the ISS on both VHF and UHF. Does my 
experience square with what others have seen with NO-84 packet?

From royldean at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 18:20:23 2017
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 14:20:23 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
Message-ID: <CADGPg2sohgXXh+A+d+ZRdem7agEsm7iiQcKa4vz-9EbH9iTRdA@mail.gmail.com>

I've never experienced a PSAT pass that was of decent elevation (say, over
20?) that I couldn't get into with an arrow and 10w from my D710.

And occasionally it sounds so strong as to lead me to believe it's putting
out at LEAST 5 watts (which we know is not the case).

That's when it's on, of course.

--Roy
K3RLD

From hamsat at xs4all.nl  Thu Aug  3 19:59:50 2017
From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 21:59:50 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] China releases cubesat from cargo vessel Tianzhou-1
In-Reply-To: <1268230071.1559690.1501759978365@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1268230071.1559690.1501759978365.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1268230071.1559690.1501759978365@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <25bdf35a-a778-e293-db23-48ce1f8d1c52@xs4all.nl>


This is the 3U Cubesat Silu 1:
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/silkroad-1.htm

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 03-08-17 13:32, andy thomas via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> ...as reported at: http://www.china.org.cn/china/2017-08/03/content_41338678.htm
> Tianzhou-1 releases satellite in orbit- China.org.cn
>    
> |
> |   |
> Tianzhou-1 releases satellite in orbit- China.org.cn
>   By ??? China's first cargo spacecraft Tianzhou-1 has successfully released a tiny satellite while in orbit.  |  |
>
>    |
>
>   
> apparently the cubesat was stored in the Tianzhou mission and released 104 days later.
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows of this cubesat? university origin maybe? on our frequencies maybe? at an inclination of 42 degrees it will be very low on the horizon from here in the UK.
> Might be an interesting launch possibility for the future?
> 73 de andy g0sfj
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From redski at bellsouth.net  Thu Aug  3 20:29:14 2017
From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M WILLOUGHBY)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 15:29:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
Message-ID: <B7D46DBA-72C8-4F29-8A53-7A9E51EF8269@bellsouth.net>

Thanks for that info, Roy. Perhaps what I have heard in the past was some sort of telemetry coming from NO-84. Is it also sending a data beacon?


From royldean at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 20:56:29 2017
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 16:56:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
Message-ID: <CADGPg2stMV9tmDNVLdhEwa=PJZwy8njeFi8SRKdQZK=+1n=KeQ@mail.gmail.com>

> Thanks for that info, Roy. Perhaps what I have heard in the past was some sort of telemetry coming from NO-84. Is it also sending a data beacon?
>
> check out:
pcsat.findu.com

If the PSAT packets are shown as "PSAT-1]APOFF", then all it sends out are
beacons (with embedded telemetry info, more info on Bob's website, aprs.org
).

If the packets are shown as "PSAT]APRSON", then it will send beacons, and
occasional friendly messages, as well as digipeat (use "ARISS" as path).
If you send a message directly to "PSAT" (while it is on), then it will not
digipeat it, and instead will eventually respond with some information
about the next AOS (I think, it's been a while).

It's really a neat satellite.

From nss at mwt.net  Fri Aug  4 00:53:28 2017
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 19:53:28 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Simplesat lokdown
Message-ID: <f2e33641-b77b-ea29-7317-1c76d588fcf1@mwt.net>

I have in the past used this program often to see when there were mutual 
windows with a second station it worked great, but now I can not seem to 
make it do that anymore.  Can anyone help?

Joe WB9SBD
-- 
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

From andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Aug  3 20:21:47 2017
From: andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 20:21:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] China releases cubesat from cargo vessel Tianzhou-1
In-Reply-To: <25bdf35a-a778-e293-db23-48ce1f8d1c52@xs4all.nl>
References: <1268230071.1559690.1501759978365.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1268230071.1559690.1501759978365@mail.yahoo.com>
	<25bdf35a-a778-e293-db23-48ce1f8d1c52@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <1996345172.2135894.1501791707899@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks. There are two stories from April that describe the payload if you cut and paste into Google Translate:
http://esb.sxdaily.com.cn/sxrb/20170421/html/page_15_content_006.htm 

http://ehsb.hsw.cn/shtml/hsb/20170421/640590.shtml
the search string is the satellite name: ????? .
73 de andy g0sfj
      From: Nico Janssen <hamsat at xs4all.nl>
 To: andy thomas <andythomasmail at yahoo.co.uk>; Amsat <amsat-bb at amsat.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, 3 August 2017, 20:59
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] China releases cubesat from cargo vessel Tianzhou-1
   

This is the 3U Cubesat Silu 1:
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/silkroad-1.htm

73,
Nico PA0DLO

On 03-08-17 13:32, andy thomas via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> ...as reported at: http://www.china.org.cn/china/2017-08/03/content_41338678.htm
> Tianzhou-1 releases satellite in orbit- China.org.cn
>? ? 
> |
> |? |
> Tianzhou-1 releases satellite in orbit- China.org.cn
>? By ??? China's first cargo spacecraft Tianzhou-1 has successfully released a tiny satellite while in orbit.? |? |
>
>? ? |
>
>? 
> apparently the cubesat was stored in the Tianzhou mission and released 104 days later.
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows of this cubesat? university origin maybe? on our frequencies maybe? at an inclination of 42 degrees it will be very low on the horizon from here in the UK.
> Might be an interesting launch possibility for the future?
> 73 de andy g0sfj
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug  4 04:40:12 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:40:12 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2sohgXXh+A+d+ZRdem7agEsm7iiQcKa4vz-9EbH9iTRdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2sohgXXh+A+d+ZRdem7agEsm7iiQcKa4vz-9EbH9iTRdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9342C8D1-3613-4C8A-9BF6-B0C25AC70A80@internode.on.net>

Why is NO-84 not on ? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Aug 2017, at 4:20 am, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've never experienced a PSAT pass that was of decent elevation (say, over
> 20?) that I couldn't get into with an arrow and 10w from my D710.
> 
> And occasionally it sounds so strong as to lead me to believe it's putting
> out at LEAST 5 watts (which we know is not the case).
> 
> That's when it's on, of course.
> 
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
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From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Fri Aug  4 07:05:44 2017
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 09:05:44 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <9342C8D1-3613-4C8A-9BF6-B0C25AC70A80@internode.on.net>
References: <CADGPg2sohgXXh+A+d+ZRdem7agEsm7iiQcKa4vz-9EbH9iTRdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<9342C8D1-3613-4C8A-9BF6-B0C25AC70A80@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <000001d30cf0$17fac0b0$47f04210$@de>

Hi Andrew,

Any drop below the critical threshold of 7.5V results in a reset. All settings are reset to their default values and by default the APRS digipeater is OFF. BTW, the PSK31 transponder is always ON.

See here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=81881

73 Mike
DK3WN


-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Andrew Rich
Gesendet: 04 August 2017 06:40
An: Roy Dean
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84

Why is NO-84 not on ? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Aug 2017, at 4:20 am, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've never experienced a PSAT pass that was of decent elevation (say, 
> over
> 20?) that I couldn't get into with an arrow and 10w from my D710.
> 
> And occasionally it sounds so strong as to lead me to believe it's 
> putting out at LEAST 5 watts (which we know is not the case).
> 
> That's when it's on, of course.
> 
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
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From mail at mike-rupprecht.de  Fri Aug  4 08:01:51 2017
From: mail at mike-rupprecht.de (Mike Rupprecht)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 10:01:51 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <07273533-E697-43D9-9B5A-07FDAA7B53B6@internode.on.net>
References: <CADGPg2sohgXXh+A+d+ZRdem7agEsm7iiQcKa4vz-9EbH9iTRdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<9342C8D1-3613-4C8A-9BF6-B0C25AC70A80@internode.on.net>
	<000001d30cf0$17fac0b0$47f04210$@de>
	<07273533-E697-43D9-9B5A-07FDAA7B53B6@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <000201d30cf7$eee7f230$ccb7d690$@de>

Hi Andrew,
sure, there is also an PSK31 beacon.

http://dk3wn.info/files/psat_talk_dk3wn_Amsatuk_colloq_2015.pdf


73 Mike
DK3WN

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Andrew Rich [mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net] 
Gesendet: 04 August 2017 09:28
An: Mike Rupprecht
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] NO-84

NO 84 PSK

Does it only transpond PSK ?

It does not have a PSK beacon ? 

Andrew 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Aug 2017, at 5:05 pm, Mike Rupprecht <mail at mike-rupprecht.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Any drop below the critical threshold of 7.5V results in a reset. All settings are reset to their default values and by default the APRS digipeater is OFF. BTW, the PSK31 transponder is always ON.
> 
> See here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=81881
> 
> 73 Mike
> DK3WN
> 
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von 
> Andrew Rich
> Gesendet: 04 August 2017 06:40
> An: Roy Dean
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84
> 
> Why is NO-84 not on ? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Aug 2017, at 4:20 am, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've never experienced a PSAT pass that was of decent elevation (say, 
>> over
>> 20?) that I couldn't get into with an arrow and 10w from my D710.
>> 
>> And occasionally it sounds so strong as to lead me to believe it's 
>> putting out at LEAST 5 watts (which we know is not the case).
>> 
>> That's when it's on, of course.
>> 
>> --Roy
>> K3RLD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug  4 04:48:24 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:48:24 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS (and PSK31)
In-Reply-To: <e00330ac-a766-d8ae-3e43-329da619ba0d@mwt.net>
References: <0ac08944727d573182953bc2c9c212b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<e00330ac-a766-d8ae-3e43-329da619ba0d@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <76BDCF03-7711-4DD7-9435-1E4C17B44896@internode.on.net>

How come NO-84 gets turned off ?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Aug 2017, at 12:45 am, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> 
> I agree, that PSK-31 Transponder is a BLAST! I am sad that it barely gets used!
> 
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 8/3/2017 9:30 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>> So, while digipeater is off, now is a good time to play with PSAT (NO84's)
>> PSK31 transponder which we try to always keep on.
>> 
>> Bob, WB4APR
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS
>> 
>> Probably the closest thing to a status report on the health of NO-84 is
>> available from Mike DK3WN:
>> 
>> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?cat=254
>> 
>> DK3WN is one of the command stations for NO-84, and he is able to switch
>> on the APRS digipeater when he feels the satellite can handle it. His last
>> blog entry related to that satellite was from last week, where he
>> commented that "digipeater should remain off". Along with his web site,
>> DK3WN is also on Twitter as @DK3WN where he also posts information related
>> to NO-84. If you're not on Twitter, you can read his tweets in a browser
>> at:
>> 
>> http://twitter.com/DK3WN
>> 
>> In terms of APRS digipeaters operating on 145.825 MHz,
>> NO-84 is off, ISS is down, and from an earlier -BB post it looks like
>> QIKCOM-1 (another satellite with an APRS transponder on 145.825 MHz):
>> 
>> http://aprs.org/qikcom-1.html
>> 
>> has been delayed in its deployment from the ISS. We'll have to be
>> patient...
>> 
>> 73!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
>> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:04 AM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> I was hoping for a little more long-term outlook with respect to NO-84.
>>> As best I can tell from clicking on the satellites that have links,
>>> there are no other satellites that have APRS transponder capabilities.
>>> Is that correct?
>>> 
>>> Steve AI9IN
>>> 
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
> 
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug  4 04:49:29 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:49:29 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Speaking of APRS
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUcCtBJxM4=vL0CEbt6YooUqRKgmhMZfv4kEtyHZRfauUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0b0dbbed1c99e13e3604e5ab694a9423@etczone.com>
	<0E9498B3CE2944B295485450FEF00728@DESKTOP8A7S6MK>
	<433ff20e6bbdbd74c0d0642f7cafee16@etczone.com>
	<CAN6TEUcCtBJxM4=vL0CEbt6YooUqRKgmhMZfv4kEtyHZRfauUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82B70F81-0E60-44D3-AAA4-CA94242A9DB2@internode.on.net>

Twitter

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Aug 2017, at 12:19 am, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Probably the closest thing to a status report on the health
> of NO-84 is available from Mike DK3WN:
> 
> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?cat=254
> 
> DK3WN is one of the command stations for NO-84, and he is
> able to switch on the APRS digipeater when he feels the
> satellite can handle it. His last blog entry related to
> that satellite was from last week, where he commented that
> "digipeater should remain off". Along with his web site,
> DK3WN is also on Twitter as @DK3WN where he also posts
> information related to NO-84. If you're not on Twitter, you
> can read his tweets in a browser at:
> 
> http://twitter.com/DK3WN
> 
> In terms of APRS digipeaters operating on 145.825 MHz,
> NO-84 is off, ISS is down, and from an earlier -BB post
> it looks like QIKCOM-1 (another satellite with an APRS
> transponder on 145.825 MHz):
> 
> http://aprs.org/qikcom-1.html
> 
> has been delayed in its deployment from the ISS. We'll
> have to be patient...
> 
> 73!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:04 AM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> I was hoping for a little more long-term outlook with respect to NO-84.
>> As best I can tell from clicking on the satellites that have links,
>> there are no other satellites that have APRS transponder capabilities.
>> Is that correct?
>> 
>> Steve AI9IN
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug  4 07:24:13 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 17:24:13 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <000001d30cf0$17fac0b0$47f04210$@de>
References: <CADGPg2sohgXXh+A+d+ZRdem7agEsm7iiQcKa4vz-9EbH9iTRdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<9342C8D1-3613-4C8A-9BF6-B0C25AC70A80@internode.on.net>
	<000001d30cf0$17fac0b0$47f04210$@de>
Message-ID: <BD23E965-03BE-4C21-B905-27BA117BB880@internode.on.net>

Changing things around here

Have a master SDR PC and watching the waterfall remotely 

Mainly for sats

Using a hack rf, rtl sdr , sdrplay 

A

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Aug 2017, at 5:05 pm, Mike Rupprecht <mail at mike-rupprecht.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Any drop below the critical threshold of 7.5V results in a reset. All settings are reset to their default values and by default the APRS digipeater is OFF. BTW, the PSK31 transponder is always ON.
> 
> See here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=81881
> 
> 73 Mike
> DK3WN
> 
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Andrew Rich
> Gesendet: 04 August 2017 06:40
> An: Roy Dean
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84
> 
> Why is NO-84 not on ? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Aug 2017, at 4:20 am, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've never experienced a PSAT pass that was of decent elevation (say, 
>> over
>> 20?) that I couldn't get into with an arrow and 10w from my D710.
>> 
>> And occasionally it sounds so strong as to lead me to believe it's 
>> putting out at LEAST 5 watts (which we know is not the case).
>> 
>> That's when it's on, of course.
>> 
>> --Roy
>> K3RLD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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> 
> _______________________________________________
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug  4 07:27:58 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 17:27:58 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <000001d30cf0$17fac0b0$47f04210$@de>
References: <CADGPg2sohgXXh+A+d+ZRdem7agEsm7iiQcKa4vz-9EbH9iTRdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<9342C8D1-3613-4C8A-9BF6-B0C25AC70A80@internode.on.net>
	<000001d30cf0$17fac0b0$47f04210$@de>
Message-ID: <07273533-E697-43D9-9B5A-07FDAA7B53B6@internode.on.net>

NO 84 PSK

Does it only transpond PSK ?

It does not have a PSK beacon ? 

Andrew 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Aug 2017, at 5:05 pm, Mike Rupprecht <mail at mike-rupprecht.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Any drop below the critical threshold of 7.5V results in a reset. All settings are reset to their default values and by default the APRS digipeater is OFF. BTW, the PSK31 transponder is always ON.
> 
> See here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=81881
> 
> 73 Mike
> DK3WN
> 
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Andrew Rich
> Gesendet: 04 August 2017 06:40
> An: Roy Dean
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84
> 
> Why is NO-84 not on ? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Aug 2017, at 4:20 am, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've never experienced a PSAT pass that was of decent elevation (say, 
>> over
>> 20?) that I couldn't get into with an arrow and 10w from my D710.
>> 
>> And occasionally it sounds so strong as to lead me to believe it's 
>> putting out at LEAST 5 watts (which we know is not the case).
>> 
>> That's when it's on, of course.
>> 
>> --Roy
>> K3RLD
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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> 
> _______________________________________________
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From afeller at ieee.org  Fri Aug  4 13:02:08 2017
From: afeller at ieee.org (Arthur Feller, W4ART)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 09:02:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] The loyal engineers steering NASA Voyager probes across
	the universe.
Message-ID: <1194AE1E-C6F6-4B2C-9D62-E0DDC5749F69@ieee.org>

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/magazine/the-loyal-engineers-steering-nasas-voyager-probes-across-the-universe.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 <https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/magazine/the-loyal-engineers-steering-nasas-voyager-probes-across-the-universe.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0>


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						- Reba McEntire

http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/>





From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Fri Aug  4 14:36:36 2017
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 10:36:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Frontiers of Flight Museum/
	Moon Day, Dallas, TX
Message-ID: <B2DC8359236541D385905A7234530B35@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Frontiers of Flight Museum/ Moon Day, Dallas, TX

on 05 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 18:02 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between OR4ISS and ON4ISS. The contact should be audible over portions of Europe and adjacent areas.  Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

For the third year in a row, the Frontiers of Flight Museum is honored to be selected for a live contact with the International Space Station through the Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) program.  We greatly appreciate the support and assistance of the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration in making this phenomenal opportunity for our students possible.  

 

The Frontiers of Flight Museum is committed to educating, motivating, and inspiring all ages in science, technology, engineering, and math, and this remarkable opportunity offers us a unique venue toward that goal.  Our previous ARISS contacts have been viewed by overflow audiences in our 200-seat auditorium, and we once again welcome this chance to inspire young people while also educating the public about the importance of the International Space Station.

 

This TALK LIVE! To the ISS event will be held on 5 August, only two weeks after our ninth annual "Moon Day" event, the largest annual space exposition in Texas.  This year, Moon Day featured exhibits and demonstrations by the Dallas Amateur Radio Club, AMSAT, the Johnson Space Center, several universities, and numerous space-related corporations and organizations.  Programs and classes for all ages included model rocket building and launching for younger visitors as well as serious academic presentations for mature audiences such as The Future of Human Spaceflight:  The Moon, Asteroids, and Mars, The August Solar Eclipse, and a special appearance by Dr. Janet Kavandi, Director of the NASA Glenn Research Center and a three-time Space Shuttle astronaut (STS-91, STS-99, and STS-104). Several young visitors to Moon Day submitted questions for consideration for this upcoming ARISS contact.

 

The live conversation via Amateur Radio with an astronaut aboard the International Space Station in the Museum's auditorium will be open to the public.  

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 

 

1. How long did it take for the Space Station to be built?

2. Does the change in gravity affect a person's heart rate and length of   

   sleep? 

3. How do the experiments on the Space Station help us overcome the 

   challenges humans will face on the journey to Mars?

4. Does electricity work differently in space than on Earth?

5. Are there any plans to reduce, recycle, and even reuse the space debris 

   orbiting Earth?

6. How do you fly the Space Station?

7. Will you be able to see the solar eclipse on August 21st in space?

8. What is it like to live in micro-gravity?

9. Do you have dreams and how do you feel after waking up?

10. What was the most surprising experiment you have done on the Space 

    Station?

11. What language do you speak on the Space Station?

12. Have you ever been sick in space?

13. What has been your best experience as an astronaut?

14. What did you study in school to help you become an astronaut?

15. Are your favorite foods in space the same as your favorite foods on 

    Earth?

16. Why does your spacecraft heat up coming back down to Earth but not while 

    launching into space?

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

 

Next planned event(s):

   

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 


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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Aug  4 15:08:13 2017
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 15:08:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] YOTA ARISS Contact + Deployable Sat VHF Yagi VA3NGJ
	Interview
References: <1370248768.2854132.1501859293619.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1370248768.2854132.1501859293619@mail.yahoo.com>

ARISS contact planned for YOTA 2017 UK 
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/08/03/ariss-contact-yota-2017/

New Satellite Report by Peter 2M0SQL 
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/08/01/2m0sql-satellite-report/

Press reports ISS success of Chertsey Radio Club 
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/07/28/press-iss-chertsey-radio-club/

KD2BHC 437 MHz Sprite satellites deployed 
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/07/26/sprite-satellites-deployed/

Jeff Nicholls VA3NGJ is interviewed about the Deployable VHF Antenna which is 3 times the size of the NORsat-2 satellite launched on July 14 
http://news.engineering.utoronto.ca/u-t-engineering-designed-cubesats-novel-deployable-antenna-launched-orbit/

Wirral Globe newspaper reports planned ISS contact with #YOTA2017 (145.800 MHz FM) and says Milo 2E0ILO @milonoblet has been chosen to represent UK at the event 
http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/15454630.Wirral_teenager_to_represent_UK_in_amateur_radio_event__Youngsters_on_the_Air_/

Glasgow Pocketqube satellite company on front page of The National newspaper. D/L 437.160 MHz 
https://twitter.com/AlbaOrbital/status/892862152855474176
https://www.pocketqubeshop.com/unicorn-1/

New @ARRL Amateur Radio PR Posters include - Out Of This World (Space Comms/Satellites)?http://www.arrl.org/pr-posters


Trevor M5AKA
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From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Fri Aug  4 17:19:00 2017
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 18:19:00 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] The loyal engineers steering NASA Voyager probes
 across the universe.
In-Reply-To: <1194AE1E-C6F6-4B2C-9D62-E0DDC5749F69@ieee.org>
References: <1194AE1E-C6F6-4B2C-9D62-E0DDC5749F69@ieee.org>
Message-ID: <1fc610a0-0c5a-0fb1-f0a3-31cc7ce42c5d@btinternet.com>

Great article Art - Many thanks for the spot.

  A lot of lessons learnt about managing spacecraft after launch - 
especially "dont fiddle if you dont have to" - something we always try 
to remember with little Oscar 73/FUNcube-1

73

Graham

G3VZV



On 04/08/2017 14:02, Arthur Feller, W4ART wrote:
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/magazine/the-loyal-engineers-steering-nasas-voyager-probes-across-the-universe.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 <https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/magazine/the-loyal-engineers-steering-nasas-voyager-probes-across-the-universe.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0>
>
>
> To thrive in life, you need three bones:  a wish bone, a back bone, and a funny bone.
> 						- Reba McEntire
>
> http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From kb2m at arrl.net  Fri Aug  4 18:53:29 2017
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:53:29 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue
Message-ID: <03a501d30d52$f7544210$e5fcc630$@net>

I removed the rotor from the tower today and started working on the azimuth
rotor. When power is applied via left or right control the motor is running.
I carefully split the case and everything appears intact. Grease is still
good, no missing gear teeth, no metal shavings in bottom of housing. So the
problem is somewhere in the gearing, or mechanical control. I would like to
proceed further but have no  exploded view of the inside of the rotor. I
wouldn't want to proceed without some kind of service manual part
description view. Does anyone have anything that might help? Does anyone
have a clue, maybe had this same problem and fixed it?I already have the
useless Yaesu user manual..

 

73 Jeff kb2m


From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 18:59:16 2017
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:59:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue
In-Reply-To: <03a501d30d52$f7544210$e5fcc630$@net>
References: <03a501d30d52$f7544210$e5fcc630$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FdP81=_4AAMPFhmPp_x77L6ivy-oyhKD5KR+76yB=X88g@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff,

 Not sure if this will be any help to you or not.

http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/yaesu-g5500-rotator-motor-repair.html?m=1

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S7

On Aug 4, 2017 2:55 PM, "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:

> I removed the rotor from the tower today and started working on the azimuth
> rotor. When power is applied via left or right control the motor is
> running.
> I carefully split the case and everything appears intact. Grease is still
> good, no missing gear teeth, no metal shavings in bottom of housing. So the
> problem is somewhere in the gearing, or mechanical control. I would like to
> proceed further but have no  exploded view of the inside of the rotor. I
> wouldn't want to proceed without some kind of service manual part
> description view. Does anyone have anything that might help? Does anyone
> have a clue, maybe had this same problem and fixed it?I already have the
> useless Yaesu user manual..
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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From kb2m at arrl.net  Fri Aug  4 20:07:06 2017
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:07:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FdP81=_4AAMPFhmPp_x77L6ivy-oyhKD5KR+76yB=X88g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <03a501d30d52$f7544210$e5fcc630$@net>
	<CAEMY9FdP81=_4AAMPFhmPp_x77L6ivy-oyhKD5KR+76yB=X88g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03ee01d30d5d$3fb91490$bf2b3db0$@net>

Hi Dave, I saw that. My problem I hearing from a private reply is in the clutch. I also discovered  from a direct reply back to me there is an exploded view in the G-5400 manual.  See?..

 

http://www.foxdelta.com/products/ST2-0816/G5400-G5600.pdf

 

Good ol FoxDelta saved the day!

 

I?m going to get back on it tomorrow morning and see if my G-5500 is close enough to the diagram to take apart. I?ll report back here to the group with my findings?.

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Dave Webb KB1PVH [mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 2:59 PM
To: kb2m
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue

 

Jeff,

 

 Not sure if this will be any help to you or not.

 

http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/yaesu-g5500-rotator-motor-repair.html?m=1

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S7

 

On Aug 4, 2017 2:55 PM, "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:

I removed the rotor from the tower today and started working on the azimuth
rotor. When power is applied via left or right control the motor is running.
I carefully split the case and everything appears intact. Grease is still
good, no missing gear teeth, no metal shavings in bottom of housing. So the
problem is somewhere in the gearing, or mechanical control. I would like to
proceed further but have no  exploded view of the inside of the rotor. I
wouldn't want to proceed without some kind of service manual part
description view. Does anyone have anything that might help? Does anyone
have a clue, maybe had this same problem and fixed it?I already have the
useless Yaesu user manual..



73 Jeff kb2m

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From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Fri Aug  4 20:18:24 2017
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 15:18:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue
In-Reply-To: <03ee01d30d5d$3fb91490$bf2b3db0$@net>
References: <03a501d30d52$f7544210$e5fcc630$@net>
	<CAEMY9FdP81=_4AAMPFhmPp_x77L6ivy-oyhKD5KR+76yB=X88g@mail.gmail.com>
	<03ee01d30d5d$3fb91490$bf2b3db0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAJUhCTM8qsy2WLUzh6sy6OfpsVpjfFqPxk2c4ohCycVEcn2x7g@mail.gmail.com>

If that's (clutch) the problem, a replacement from Yaesu was not
available (call as this may have changed).

I got a pinion gear from a micromachine shop over in England. Like $15
including shipping. Not an exact fit, but very, very close.

The load (antennas) need to be well balanced for this to work. Motor
won't start a pre loaded gear train.

Norm n3ykf

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Jeff Griffin <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:
> Hi Dave, I saw that. My problem I hearing from a private reply is in the clutch. I also discovered  from a direct reply back to me there is an exploded view in the G-5400 manual.  See?..
>
>
>
> http://www.foxdelta.com/products/ST2-0816/G5400-G5600.pdf
>
>
>
> Good ol FoxDelta saved the day!
>
>
>
> I?m going to get back on it tomorrow morning and see if my G-5500 is close enough to the diagram to take apart. I?ll report back here to the group with my findings?.
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
> From: Dave Webb KB1PVH [mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 2:59 PM
> To: kb2m
> Cc: AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue
>
>
>
> Jeff,
>
>
>
>  Not sure if this will be any help to you or not.
>
>
>
> http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/yaesu-g5500-rotator-motor-repair.html?m=1
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2017 2:55 PM, "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> I removed the rotor from the tower today and started working on the azimuth
> rotor. When power is applied via left or right control the motor is running.
> I carefully split the case and everything appears intact. Grease is still
> good, no missing gear teeth, no metal shavings in bottom of housing. So the
> problem is somewhere in the gearing, or mechanical control. I would like to
> proceed further but have no  exploded view of the inside of the rotor. I
> wouldn't want to proceed without some kind of service manual part
> description view. Does anyone have anything that might help? Does anyone
> have a clue, maybe had this same problem and fixed it?I already have the
> useless Yaesu user manual..
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From jimlist at zoho.com  Fri Aug  4 20:21:13 2017
From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:21:13 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 Mode change
In-Reply-To: <9961032CCB324FD6B68EE759E695E3B9@jimPC2>
References: <39ED40E1AB4A4BC59C531C1A3F21D575@LAPTOP91ASAKDB><A64C82B8458B4A06894F46E9331DA5D8@jimPC2><A9518B35DED843E79A1B3A17AD2627C2@jimPC2>
	<9961032CCB324FD6B68EE759E695E3B9@jimPC2>
Message-ID: <D28EFE36611C4074ADD18DBC2401D86E@jimPC2>

HI folks,

AO73/FUNcube is now in amateur mode for the weekend with the transponder on!

As normal, plan is to revert to normal mode on Sun PM (UTC).

Please see below for all FUNcube mission info

73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
FUNcube frequencies and other details
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

AO-73 FUNcube-1

The transponder is normally operational only when the satellite is in
eclipse, ie the solar panels are NOT being illuminated. During weekends
(from pm Fridays UTC to PM Sundays UTC) the transponder is operational 24/7.

When the transponder is switched off, the telemetry beacon is on full power,
when the transponder is on the beacon it is on low power. During holidays,
eg Christmas, New Year, Easter, etc, the transponder maybe activated for
extended periods. Watch AMSAT-BB for announcements which are usually made on
Friday evenings (UTC)

The nominal transponder frequencies are:

Uplink:   435.150 - 435.130 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink:   145.950 - 145.970 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.935 MHz BPSK

(The passband may be up to 15kHz higher depending on on-board temps. Lower
temperatures give higher freqs!)

FUNcube-2 (aka FUNcube on UKube)

The FUNcube-2 sub-system continues to operate autonomously and, almost
continuously, in amateur mode. The transponder is operational and the
telemetry downlink is functioning with about 70mW output. The FUNcube-1
Dashboard does not correctly display the telemetry but it does correctly
decode the data and uploads it to the FUNcube Data Warehouse from where it
can be examined. Most of the real time data channels are operational and
these include battery voltages, temperatures and ADCS data coming via the
main On Board Computer (OBC).

The transponder is interrupted for a few seconds every 2 minutes when the
other transmitter sends its CW beacon and, occasionally, for a few seconds
when the main OBC reboots (approx seven times each orbit).

The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink:   435.080 - 435.060 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink:   145.930 - 145.950 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.915 MHz BPSK

(The passband may be up to 10kHz higher depending on on-board temps. Low
temperatures give higher freqs!)


EO79 FUNcube-3
Due to power budget constraints the transponder cannot be operational 24/7
and an orbit specific schedule has been developed. The transponder will
commence operation 27 minutes after the spacecraft enters sunlight and will
stay on for a period of 25 minutes. This schedule may be modified in future
months as a result of experience.

The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink: 435.0723-435.0473 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink: 145.946-145.971 MHz USB

Further detailed info on EO79 transponder frequencies is at:
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/11/10/eo79-funcube-3-transponder-commences-regular-operation/


EO88/Nayif-1/FUNcube-5

EO88 is presently operating in autonomous mode. The transponder is
operational when the satellite is in eclipse, ie the solar panels are NOT
being illuminated.
When the transponder is switched off, the telemetry beacon is on full power,
when the transponder is on the beacon it is on low power.
The transponder frequencies are:

Uplink:  435.045 ? 435.015 MHz LSB (inverting)
Downlink: 145.960-145.990 MHz USB
Telemetry  Tx: 145.940MHz

All FUNcube transponders are sponsored by AMSAT-UK and AMSAT-NL. We are very
grateful for the assistance given by Innovative Solution In Space Bv, The
Netherlands.

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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 07:46:20 2017
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 03:46:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
Message-ID: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone.

Most of the time, when you're looking for how-to ideas, searching online
will result in lots of options.  This time, I'm not having much luck - with
the exeption of expensive commercial solutions.

What I would LIKE to see are some ideas on how I can give myself better
(permanent) access to the roof that is more stable than an extension
ladder.  I only need to get up about 4 meters to a simple "A" roof, but
with every passing year that transition from the top of the ladder to the
sloped roof becomes more dangerous.

Has anyone built exterior stairs or utilized a fixed ladder to the roof
perhaps with some extended hand rails to make getting on & off the roof
less hazardous?

Alternatively, I'm certainly open to a purchased or second-hand solution if
the cost is reasonable.

Pictures would be great if anyone would like to share a URL or two.

With the number of antennas that have been put on the roof by Amateur Radio
operators over the decades, I have to think that someone out there besides
me got tired of using a plain old ladder at some point.

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR

From jimlist at zoho.com  Sat Aug  5 15:27:45 2017
From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:27:45 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 Mode change
In-Reply-To: <D28EFE36611C4074ADD18DBC2401D86E@jimPC2>
References: <39ED40E1AB4A4BC59C531C1A3F21D575@LAPTOP91ASAKDB><A64C82B8458B4A06894F46E9331DA5D8@jimPC2><A9518B35DED843E79A1B3A17AD2627C2@jimPC2><9961032CCB324FD6B68EE759E695E3B9@jimPC2>
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Message-ID: <13DF423C17994667998D9A42D1851FEA@jimPC2>

Hi Folks,

  Slight change of plan. We now propose the keep the transponder on full 
time all week next week. This is to support operations from YOTA and also 
because the schools (at least those in UK) are on holiday.

73s Jim G3WGM
for FUNcube Ops Team.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Heck G3WGM
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 9:21 PM
To: AMSAT ; funcube at yahoogroups.co.uk
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO73 Mode change

HI folks,

AO73/FUNcube is now in amateur mode for the weekend with the transponder on!

As normal, plan is to revert to normal mode on Sun PM (UTC).

Please see below for all FUNcube mission info

73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
FUNcube frequencies and other details
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

AO-73 FUNcube-1

The transponder is normally operational only when the satellite is in
eclipse, ie the solar panels are NOT being illuminated. During weekends
(from pm Fridays UTC to PM Sundays UTC) the transponder is operational 24/7.

When the transponder is switched off, the telemetry beacon is on full power,
when the transponder is on the beacon it is on low power. During holidays,
eg Christmas, New Year, Easter, etc, the transponder maybe activated for
extended periods. Watch AMSAT-BB for announcements which are usually made on
Friday evenings (UTC)

The nominal transponder frequencies are:

Uplink:   435.150 - 435.130 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink:   145.950 - 145.970 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.935 MHz BPSK

(The passband may be up to 15kHz higher depending on on-board temps. Lower
temperatures give higher freqs!)

FUNcube-2 (aka FUNcube on UKube)

The FUNcube-2 sub-system continues to operate autonomously and, almost
continuously, in amateur mode. The transponder is operational and the
telemetry downlink is functioning with about 70mW output. The FUNcube-1
Dashboard does not correctly display the telemetry but it does correctly
decode the data and uploads it to the FUNcube Data Warehouse from where it
can be examined. Most of the real time data channels are operational and
these include battery voltages, temperatures and ADCS data coming via the
main On Board Computer (OBC).

The transponder is interrupted for a few seconds every 2 minutes when the
other transmitter sends its CW beacon and, occasionally, for a few seconds
when the main OBC reboots (approx seven times each orbit).

The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink:   435.080 - 435.060 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink:   145.930 - 145.950 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.915 MHz BPSK

(The passband may be up to 10kHz higher depending on on-board temps. Low
temperatures give higher freqs!)


EO79 FUNcube-3
Due to power budget constraints the transponder cannot be operational 24/7
and an orbit specific schedule has been developed. The transponder will
commence operation 27 minutes after the spacecraft enters sunlight and will
stay on for a period of 25 minutes. This schedule may be modified in future
months as a result of experience.

The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink: 435.0723-435.0473 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink: 145.946-145.971 MHz USB

Further detailed info on EO79 transponder frequencies is at:
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/11/10/eo79-funcube-3-transponder-commences-regular-operation/


EO88/Nayif-1/FUNcube-5

EO88 is presently operating in autonomous mode. The transponder is
operational when the satellite is in eclipse, ie the solar panels are NOT
being illuminated.
When the transponder is switched off, the telemetry beacon is on full power,
when the transponder is on the beacon it is on low power.
The transponder frequencies are:

Uplink:  435.045 ? 435.015 MHz LSB (inverting)
Downlink: 145.960-145.990 MHz USB
Telemetry  Tx: 145.940MHz

All FUNcube transponders are sponsored by AMSAT-UK and AMSAT-NL. We are very
grateful for the assistance given by Innovative Solution In Space Bv, The
Netherlands.

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From w3ab at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  5 18:47:37 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:47:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <270353807.370941.1501958857252@mail.yahoo.com>

Scott,
Have you looked at the traditional industrial sources?McMaster-Carr or Grainger.?---? 
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
 GEO ??? 

 http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

      From: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 12:48 AM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
   
Hello everyone.

Most of the time, when you're looking for how-to ideas, searching online
will result in lots of options.? This time, I'm not having much luck - with
the exeption of expensive commercial solutions.

What I would LIKE to see are some ideas on how I can give myself better
(permanent) access to the roof that is more stable than an extension
ladder.? I only need to get up about 4 meters to a simple "A" roof, but
with every passing year that transition from the top of the ladder to the
sloped roof becomes more dangerous.

Has anyone built exterior stairs or utilized a fixed ladder to the roof
perhaps with some extended hand rails to make getting on & off the roof
less hazardous?

Alternatively, I'm certainly open to a purchased or second-hand solution if
the cost is reasonable.

Pictures would be great if anyone would like to share a URL or two.

With the number of antennas that have been put on the roof by Amateur Radio
operators over the decades, I have to think that someone out there besides
me got tired of using a plain old ladder at some point.

Thanks!

-Scott,? K4KDR
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From eddie.seymour at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 20:00:31 2017
From: eddie.seymour at gmail.com (eddie.seymour at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 16:00:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
In-Reply-To: <270353807.370941.1501958857252@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com>
	<270353807.370941.1501958857252@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7m8cochm4hlm0d69nu8tpi8bslv7peuhr0@4ax.com>


>Scott,
>Have you looked at the traditional industrial sources?McMaster-Carr or Grainger.?---? 
> Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
> GEO ??? 
>
> http://www.w3ab.org
>
>Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
>
>      From: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 12:48 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
>   
>Hello everyone.
>
>Most of the time, when you're looking for how-to ideas, searching online
>will result in lots of options.? This time, I'm not having much luck - with
>the exeption of expensive commercial solutions.
>
>What I would LIKE to see are some ideas on how I can give myself better
>(permanent) access to the roof that is more stable than an extension
>ladder.? I only need to get up about 4 meters to a simple "A" roof, but
>with every passing year that transition from the top of the ladder to the
>sloped roof becomes more dangerous.
>
>Has anyone built exterior stairs or utilized a fixed ladder to the roof
>perhaps with some extended hand rails to make getting on & off the roof
>less hazardous?
>
>Alternatively, I'm certainly open to a purchased or second-hand solution if
>the cost is reasonable.
>
>Pictures would be great if anyone would like to share a URL or two.
>
>With the number of antennas that have been put on the roof by Amateur Radio
>operators over the decades, I have to think that someone out there besides
>me got tired of using a plain old ladder at some point.
>
>Thanks!
I have a side mounted Rohn 25 that is ideal for me to get on the roof.
WX station and couple of antennas on up the tower works very well.

From w3ab at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  5 20:34:42 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 20:34:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
In-Reply-To: <7m8cochm4hlm0d69nu8tpi8bslv7peuhr0@4ax.com>
References: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com>
	<270353807.370941.1501958857252@mail.yahoo.com>
	<7m8cochm4hlm0d69nu8tpi8bslv7peuhr0@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <1399207290.414016.1501965282325@mail.yahoo.com>

That is what I use. He is looking for something preferably with handrails.
I just realized he said "meters". Probably doesn't have access to the businesses I mentioned as they are USA only.?---? 
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
 GEO ??? 

 http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

      From: "eddie.seymour at gmail.com" <eddie.seymour at gmail.com>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
   

>Scott,
>Have you looked at the traditional industrial sources?McMaster-Carr or Grainger.?---? 
> Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
> GEO ??? 
>
> http://www.w3ab.org
>
>Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
>
>? ? ? From: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 12:48 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
>? 
>Hello everyone.
>
>Most of the time, when you're looking for how-to ideas, searching online
>will result in lots of options.? This time, I'm not having much luck - with
>the exeption of expensive commercial solutions.
>
>What I would LIKE to see are some ideas on how I can give myself better
>(permanent) access to the roof that is more stable than an extension
>ladder.? I only need to get up about 4 meters to a simple "A" roof, but
>with every passing year that transition from the top of the ladder to the
>sloped roof becomes more dangerous.
>
>Has anyone built exterior stairs or utilized a fixed ladder to the roof
>perhaps with some extended hand rails to make getting on & off the roof
>less hazardous?
>
>Alternatively, I'm certainly open to a purchased or second-hand solution if
>the cost is reasonable.
>
>Pictures would be great if anyone would like to share a URL or two.
>
>With the number of antennas that have been put on the roof by Amateur Radio
>operators over the decades, I have to think that someone out there besides
>me got tired of using a plain old ladder at some point.
>
>Thanks!
I have a side mounted Rohn 25 that is ideal for me to get on the roof.
WX station and couple of antennas on up the tower works very well.
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 20:43:26 2017
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:43:26 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
In-Reply-To: <1399207290.414016.1501965282325@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com><270353807.370941.1501958857252@mail.yahoo.com><7m8cochm4hlm0d69nu8tpi8bslv7peuhr0@4ax.com>
	<1399207290.414016.1501965282325@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3F2CAA5C974041D3872A37EFD943D13C@CSI9020>

Thanks very much for the replies so far!

Oh yes, very much in the US.  Just didn't want people from other parts of 
the world to have to convert before maybe replying with suggestions.

I'll look forward to possibly even more ideas in the coming days as people 
catch up with their email.

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR

=================================================

-----Original Message----- 
From: GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 4:34 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?

That is what I use. He is looking for something preferably with handrails.
I just realized he said "meters". Probably doesn't have access to the 
businesses I mentioned as they are USA only. ---
Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side.
GEO

http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

      From: "eddie.seymour at gmail.com" <eddie.seymour at gmail.com>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?


>Scott,
>Have you looked at the traditional industrial sources?McMaster-Carr or 
>Grainger. ---
> Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side.
> GEO
>
> http://www.w3ab.org
>
>Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
>
>      From: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 12:48 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
>
>Hello everyone.
>
>Most of the time, when you're looking for how-to ideas, searching online
>will result in lots of options.  This time, I'm not having much luck - with
>the exeption of expensive commercial solutions.
>
>What I would LIKE to see are some ideas on how I can give myself better
>(permanent) access to the roof that is more stable than an extension
>ladder.  I only need to get up about 4 meters to a simple "A" roof, but
>with every passing year that transition from the top of the ladder to the
>sloped roof becomes more dangerous.
>
>Has anyone built exterior stairs or utilized a fixed ladder to the roof
>perhaps with some extended hand rails to make getting on & off the roof
>less hazardous?
>
>Alternatively, I'm certainly open to a purchased or second-hand solution if
>the cost is reasonable.
>
>Pictures would be great if anyone would like to share a URL or two.
>
>With the number of antennas that have been put on the roof by Amateur Radio
>operators over the decades, I have to think that someone out there besides
>me got tired of using a plain old ladder at some point.
>
>Thanks!
I have a side mounted Rohn 25 that is ideal for me to get on the roof.
WX station and couple of antennas on up the tower works very well. 


From w3ab at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  5 21:02:02 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 21:02:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
In-Reply-To: <3F2CAA5C974041D3872A37EFD943D13C@CSI9020>
References: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com>
	<270353807.370941.1501958857252@mail.yahoo.com>
	<7m8cochm4hlm0d69nu8tpi8bslv7peuhr0@4ax.com>
	<1399207290.414016.1501965282325@mail.yahoo.com>
	<3F2CAA5C974041D3872A37EFD943D13C@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <2119887876.423777.1501966922013@mail.yahoo.com>

OK, have your pick.https://www.mcmaster.com/#stairways/=18t9lox
?---? 
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
 GEO ??? 

 http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

      From: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
   
Thanks very much for the replies so far!

Oh yes, very much in the US.? Just didn't want people from other parts of 
the world to have to convert before maybe replying with suggestions.

I'll look forward to possibly even more ideas in the coming days as people 
catch up with their email.

Thanks!

-Scott,? K4KDR

=================================================

-----Original Message----- 
From: GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 4:34 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?

That is what I use. He is looking for something preferably with handrails.
I just realized he said "meters". Probably doesn't have access to the 
businesses I mentioned as they are USA only. ---
Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side.
GEO

http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

? ? ? From: "eddie.seymour at gmail.com" <eddie.seymour at gmail.com>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?


>Scott,
>Have you looked at the traditional industrial sources?McMaster-Carr or 
>Grainger. ---
> Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side.
> GEO
>
> http://www.w3ab.org
>
>Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
>
>? ? ? From: Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com>
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 12:48 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
>
>Hello everyone.
>
>Most of the time, when you're looking for how-to ideas, searching online
>will result in lots of options.? This time, I'm not having much luck - with
>the exeption of expensive commercial solutions.
>
>What I would LIKE to see are some ideas on how I can give myself better
>(permanent) access to the roof that is more stable than an extension
>ladder.? I only need to get up about 4 meters to a simple "A" roof, but
>with every passing year that transition from the top of the ladder to the
>sloped roof becomes more dangerous.
>
>Has anyone built exterior stairs or utilized a fixed ladder to the roof
>perhaps with some extended hand rails to make getting on & off the roof
>less hazardous?
>
>Alternatively, I'm certainly open to a purchased or second-hand solution if
>the cost is reasonable.
>
>Pictures would be great if anyone would like to share a URL or two.
>
>With the number of antennas that have been put on the roof by Amateur Radio
>operators over the decades, I have to think that someone out there besides
>me got tired of using a plain old ladder at some point.
>
>Thanks!
I have a side mounted Rohn 25 that is ideal for me to get on the roof.
WX station and couple of antennas on up the tower works very well. 

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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Sat Aug  5 21:23:29 2017
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:23:29 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?
In-Reply-To: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCSnObJZtoqGM4U0Ggk43gmAmU7u+3etHO1gddNU0WNR2Gscg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008a01d30e31$156a22e0$403e68a0$@charter.net>

Tilt over brackets for poles (dxengineering, MFJ)

Then you only need to go as high as the eave

73, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 12:46 AM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Options for safer & permanent roof access?

Hello everyone.

Most of the time, when you're looking for how-to ideas, searching online
will result in lots of options.  This time, I'm not having much luck - with
the exeption of expensive commercial solutions.

What I would LIKE to see are some ideas on how I can give myself better
(permanent) access to the roof that is more stable than an extension ladder.
I only need to get up about 4 meters to a simple "A" roof, but with every
passing year that transition from the top of the ladder to the sloped roof
becomes more dangerous.

Has anyone built exterior stairs or utilized a fixed ladder to the roof
perhaps with some extended hand rails to make getting on & off the roof less
hazardous?

Alternatively, I'm certainly open to a purchased or second-hand solution if
the cost is reasonable.

Pictures would be great if anyone would like to share a URL or two.

With the number of antennas that have been put on the roof by Amateur Radio
operators over the decades, I have to think that someone out there besides
me got tired of using a plain old ladder at some point.

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sat Aug  5 23:12:15 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 09:12:15 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Turnstile antenna feed point
Message-ID: <AC8538E3-51CD-42FF-B94C-026DABD01695@internode.on.net>

Hello

I am making a turnstile antenna and interested to seek ideas on how the support the upper two dipoles 

I see some people have sort of supporting material that fits inside the upper dipoles

I am hoping to keep all the rf connections inside the pvc pipe which forms the vertical supporting structure of the antenna

No one makes commercial turnstiles ?

Andrew 

Sent from my iPhone

From mccardelm at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 01:31:09 2017
From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 21:31:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-218 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <CAM5+sosS6JBVMgj2SNq3r5ABRQMJ2sDgLrfZo3nB8H=JXHkRpQ@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-218

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Return of Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-85
* ARISS contact planned for YOTA, England
* VUCC Awards/Endorsements for July 2017
* ARRL PR Poster Features Amateur Radio in Space
* AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation at DEFCON
* AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017
* AMSATSA/SARL Workshop To Focus On Taking SDR To A New Level
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-218.01
ANS-218 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 218.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
August 6, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-218.01


Return of Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-85

With the recent popularity of Slow Scan Television (SSTV) from the
ISS, AMSAT Operations is bringing back Experimenter?s Wednesday to AO-
85.

On a trial basis, we invite users to exchange pictures using Robot
36 SSTV mode via the FM repeater on AO-85 during UTC Wednesdays.
Please identify prior to beginning transmissions, and only send when
the uplink is clear.

Stations are requested to only uplink if they have a reasonable
expectation of maintaining a full-quieting signal for the duration of
the image transmission.

Smaller stations are encouraged to focus on receiving the images.

Please don?t send questionable or provocative images. If in doubt,
pick another one.

Expect all ages to be participating.

Feedback is encouraged, and comments may be directed via email to me
at ko4ma at amsat dot org.

[ANS thanks Drew KO4MA for the above information]


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ARISS contact planned for YOTA, England

An International Space Station ARISS contact has been planned for
astronaut Paolo Nespoli IZ0JPA and the Youngsters on the Air (YOTA)
event, which takes place in UK.

The ARISS contact is scheduled Tuesday August 8, 2017 at
approximately 18.38 UTC.

This will be a direct radio contact, operated by GB4YOTA.

Downlink signals will be audible in parts of Europe on 145.800 MHz
narrowband FM. Moreover, Paolo Nespoli IZ0JPA will operate the
HamVideo transmitter.

The Goonhilly receiver will be activated sometime Friday (4th
August) and will remain active over the weekend and continue to track
the ISS until Wednesday morning, 9th August. Goonhilly, will be one
of several European HamTV reception ground stations contributing to
the reception of the HamTV signal for the contact itself.

Two web streams will be available:

1. The normal ARISS/BATC website will be available at
https://ariss.batc.tv/hamtv ; This shows only the HamTV video
downlink as an output from the merger facility, with an indication of
which registered HamTV stations are providing signal input to the
merger.

2. The ARISS Operations UK Team will be web streaming from the YOTA
event itself at https://ariss.batc.tv/ ; This web stream includes
introductions and presentations from the RSGB and the YOTA
participants before the actual contact itself according to the
timetable of the event below.

The timetable of the event is as follows. ALL times are UTC times:
17:30 - All participants and guests to be present at the location.
The event web stream (https://ariss.batc.tv/) will start at
approximately this time to capture some of the build-up.

17:40 - Formal start of the RSGB/YOTA introductions and
presentations.

18:20 - ARISS Operations in the UK take over the event, give the
background to what is happening, how it is organised and how all the
different elements of the contact are managed.

18:38 - Scheduled time for start of contact with Nespoli operating
as NA1SS. The YOTA participants will be using the GB4YOTA callsign.

18:50 - Approximate end of contact with Nespoli. After closing the
contact, the operator will invite RSGB/YOTA to formally close down
the ARISS event.

[ANS thanks Gaston Bertels, ON4WF, ARISS Europe for the above
information]


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VUCC Awards/Endorsements for July 2017

Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by
the ARRL for the period July 1, 2017 through August 1, 2017.
Congratulations to all those who made the list this month!

CALL    GRIDS

KD8CAO  1240
N8RO    1010
N8HM     980
N4UFO    675
WA5KBH   630
KG5CCI   616
KK4FEM   476
WD9EWK   375
PV8DX    313
NJ7H     203
KX9X     158
KA9P     150
XE3DX    117
OX/NJ7H  110 (NEW VUCC)
PT9BM    100 (NEW VUCC)

Eduardo PY2RN wrote, "Congratulations to aGustavo, PT9BM for the
first VUCC-SAT in South America (below the Equator), way to go!"

This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf
listings for July 1st and August 1st, 2017.  It's a visual
comparison so omissions are possible.  Apologies if your
call was not mentioned.  Thanks to all those who are
roving to grids that are rarely on the birds.  They are
doing most of the work!

[ANS thanks John K8YSE for the above information]


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ARRL PR Poster Features Amateur Radio in Space

The ARRL offers a series of six posters that promote Amateur
Radio to the general public. These were originally designed
by ARRL for the 2017 National Scouting Jamboree, but may be
used for any outreach effort. Each poster is 11" x 17".

One of the posters features amateur radio in space.

The six posters are based around the theme, "Ham Radio Is..."

Those themes are:

+ Adventure (Portable operating of all kinds)
+ Discovery (Making/Building/DIY)
+ Friendship (Community and Mentoring)
+ Out Of This World (space communications/satellites)
+ Ready (Publc Service)
+ The Game (Contesting and Awards)

A link to ARRL's "What Is Ham Radio" page is provided as both
a URL and a QR code on each poster.

The posters are available for free download in PDF format.
http://www.arrl.org/pr-posters

We suggest printing on high-gloss paper and framing them
for maximum effect.

[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information]


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AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation at DEFCON

Amateur Radio and AMSAT were prominently featured this year at
DEFCON Hacking Conference. In addition to the license exam session
run by one of the many local DEFCON Groups, there were amateur radio
demonstrations of software defined radio, Phase 4 Ground, and GNU
Radio flowgraphs at WiFi Village, one of the many subject-specific
subcategories at DEFCON. The amateur satellite service was of great
interest!

At an estimated 30,000 attendees, outreach was highly successful.
Participants were diverse, technical, curious, and came ready with
the questions! A very high fraction were already licensed or
interested in getting their license.

Amateur radio was also part of the WiFi Village Capture the Flag
competition. Word on the street is that next year we expect to see a
lot more ham content in this exciting signal intelligence competition.
AMSAT Phase 4 Ground will next present at the GNU Radio Conference
in September, in San Diego, CA.

Register now at https://www.gnuradio.org/grcon-2017/

After that, we will be at the AMSAT Symposium in October, in Reno,
NV. More information at https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/
Thank you to Paul Williamson and Steve Conklin for helping staff the
booth, bringing cool custom swag, setting up demonstrations, and
answering hundreds and hundreds of questions. We are already looking
forward to next year!

[ANS thanks Michelle Thompson, W5NYV for the above information]


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AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017

Ballots for AMSAT-NA's Board of Directors were mailed to members in
good standing on July 15. Members are encouraged to complete their
ballots and return them as soon as possible. Ballots must be received
at the AMSAT office by September 15 in order to be counted.

This year AMSAT-NA will be electing four voting members of the Board
of Directors. These will go to the four candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. In addition, there will be one alternate
chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.

The 2017 candidates, in alphabetical order by last name are:

Jerry Buxton, N0JY
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
Peter Portanova, W2JV
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an
opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of
AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that
will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the
Board. You have the option to vote for up to four candidates.

[ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information]


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AMSATSA/SARL Workshop To Focus On Taking SDR To A New Level

The AMSAT SA/SARL workshop, to be held on Saturday 19 August at the
SARL National Amateur Radio Centre at Radiokop Roodepoort, will focus
on how to get more out of Software Defined Radio, and will take
participants to another level in Amateur Radio activity.

The workshop will be presented in two sessions. Session one will
deal with the VHF SDR dongle and how to have more fun, such as
listening to satellites, receiving weather satellites pictures, and
astronomy projects. The second session will discuss a HF Dongle and
the SARL HF Noise floor monitoring project, with details and a
demonstration of how to automate this and how to build an autonomous
system using a raspberry Pi.

For more details and to check your registration status, point your
browser to www.amsatsa.org.za or send an e-mail to
admin at amsatsa.org.za

[ANS thanks SARL weekly news in English 2017-8-5 for the above
information]


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ARISS News

+ A Successful contact was made between VCP-Bundeszeltplatz,
  Gro?zerlang, Germany and Astronaut Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA using
  Callsign OR4ISS. The contact began 2017-08-01 18:20 UTC and lasted
  about nine and a half minutes. Contact was Direct via DP9S.
  ARISS Mentor was Peter IN3GHZ.

+ A Successful contact was made between Frontiers of Flight Museum/
  Moon Day, Dallas, TX, USA and Astronaut Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA using
  Callsign OR4ISS. The  contact began Sat 2017-08-05 18:02:31 UTC and
  lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was Telebridge via
  ON4ISS.
  ARISS Mentor was Keith W5IU.

[ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above
 information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

+ Free SpaceUK Magazine

  Edition 47 of the UK Space Agency's free magazine SpaceUK is now
  available for download

  The latest edition is packed with interesting content, including a
  feature on growing the UK space sector, a look at the next mission
  to Mars and an interview with Tim Peake KG5BVI / GB1SS.

  Download your copy of SpaceUK from
  http://tinyurl.com/ANS218-SpaceUK

  Sign up for email updates
  http://tinyurl.com/ANS218-EmailUpdates

  UK Space Agency blog
  https://space.blog.gov.uk/

  [ANS thanks Southgate ARN for the above information]

+ Satellite has deployable VHF crossed Yagi antenna

  Radio amateurs Sean Hum VA3SHV and Jeff Nicholls VA3NGJ worked on
  the design for a deployable VHF crossed Yagi antenna on the recently
  launched NORsat-2

  The very high frequency (VHF) antenna was designed to unfold from
  the CubeSat after receiving a command from the Norwegian Space
  Center to deploy once in orbit.

  ?This antenna is a completely new type of deployable antenna ? it
  unfolds to be more than three times as large as the satellite that
  took it into orbit,? says Hum.
  ?This is the first time that a deployable antenna of this type has
  been contemplated and successfully used as a main mission antenna
  for a CubeSat.?

  On July 20, cameras on board the CubeSat confirmed the successful
  deployment of the antenna.

  Read the full story at
  http://tinyurl.com/ANS218-Cubesats

  [ANS thanks Southgate ARN for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
aa8em at amsat dot org

From joevk5ei at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 01:33:45 2017
From: joevk5ei at gmail.com (Joe Pereira)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 11:03:45 +0930
Subject: [amsat-bb] Turnstile antenna feed point
In-Reply-To: <AC8538E3-51CD-42FF-B94C-026DABD01695@internode.on.net>
References: <AC8538E3-51CD-42FF-B94C-026DABD01695@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAEW3GkKKZthEJCqBVjLAvnNE47RAzsrP6VzgtNe8YRtZzfV9Eg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Andrew, recently VK5QI purchased a 70cm turnstile from fleabay.

He modified it slightly and it is producing some very good results.

Link to his Mark's website http://rfhead.net/

73
Joe

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am making a turnstile antenna and interested to seek ideas on how the
> support the upper two dipoles
>
> I see some people have sort of supporting material that fits inside the
> upper dipoles
>
> I am hoping to keep all the rf connections inside the pvc pipe which forms
> the vertical supporting structure of the antenna
>
> No one makes commercial turnstiles ?
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From pe0sat at vgnet.nl  Sun Aug  6 07:14:24 2017
From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 09:14:24 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] To AA5AO (Fwd: Re: Hardware you use with gqrx and
	gpredict)
In-Reply-To: <c82a9f20a698322b9ec1fa3993196596@vgnet.nl>
References: <ed5ac6314a80651033f78bac927e3c8e@www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl>
	<c82a9f20a698322b9ec1fa3993196596@vgnet.nl>
Message-ID: <45490558467432ba7aefc1a84c2d2cc0@vgnet.nl>


Hello James,

I am unable to reply via your ATT mail provider, therefor my reply via 
Amsat-BB.

73 Jan PE0SAT


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Subject: Hardware you use with gqrx and gpredict
Date: 03-08-2017 16:18
To: jameshickox at sbcglobal.net

Hello James,

The minimum I use at the moment is a refurbished HP ProBook 6460b (It 
has a quad core i5 with 8Gb)

73 Jan PE0SAT

---
With regards PE0SAT


On 03-08-2017 15:19, James Hickox via de website. wrote:
> From: James Hickox <jameshickox at sbcglobal.net>
> Call: AA5AO
> Subject: Hardware you use with gqrx and gpredict
> 
> Message Body:
> Hello, I am trying to run gpredict and gqrx  together while using
> gpredict to tune my transceiver and a rtl-sdr dongle for a duplex
> station.
> 
> I am running an old Toshiba nb505, which is a single core processor
> running at about 1.2 ghz.  It crashes or has unacceptable lag time or
> stutters.
> 
> What do you use or what would be minimal computer  specifications  you
> would recommend?
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> James Hickox
> AA5AO
> 

From bruninga at usna.edu  Sun Aug  6 16:38:49 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:38:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Science using PSAT PSK31 HF xponder
Message-ID: <CALdCfNJjLwVwgPHYL8uRU3kjtSP+U01JSAHbHc-_jrMS=fxM+A@mail.gmail.com>

Some people have reported difficulty getting into the BrnoUniversity PSK31
HF uplink on PSAT(NO84) and we just realized that such reports could be
valuable data that we have been ignoring.!

For our next HFSAT we want to explore how often the ionosphere bends the
uplink down below the satelite and any given station is unable to get in
even though their tracking program shows them the satelite is in view.  We
just realized we can get all this data simply by monitoring the PSAT
transponder and when people see AOS and LOS.

WHen we are looking for success (DX via the transponder) it is human nature
to ignore passes that didn't work.  But in this case, that is the science
data that is more interesting.

But then there is also another problem with "negative reslts" is that you
have now way of knowing if the resason you got negative results was becuase
of a vist by Murphy or because in fact, the negative effect you are looking
for was the cause.

So the best data is from a relatively high pass where you domt start seeing
your downlink until the satelite gets above X degrees elevation and then
gets strong and then fades out below Y elevation on the other side.

An ideal report might be something like:

DATE, STARTTIME, AOS angle, Max angle/AZ, LOS angle, ENDTIME, SUn AZ/EL

The sun direction will be helpful in explainign difference in AOS and LOS
elevation angles.

Its just an idea if aonyone wants to dabble in some Ham Science...

Bob, WB4APR

From AJ9N at aol.com  Sun Aug  6 20:21:00 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 16:21:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-06 21:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <296fde.53efaf33.46b8d42c@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-06  21:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Frontiers of Flight Museum/ Moon Day, Dallas, TX,  telebridge via ON4ISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  TBD
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA
Contact was  successful: Sat 2017-08-05 18:02:31 UTC 87 deg  (***)

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 123 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with  119

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-06 21:00 UTC.  
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1151. (***)
Each school counts  as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1110.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time  slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A  complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-06 21:00 UTC. 
(***)  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From kb2m at arrl.net  Sun Aug  6 22:53:31 2017
From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 18:53:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue
In-Reply-To: <03ee01d30d5d$3fb91490$bf2b3db0$@net>
References: <03a501d30d52$f7544210$e5fcc630$@net>	<CAEMY9FdP81=_4AAMPFhmPp_x77L6ivy-oyhKD5KR+76yB=X88g@mail.gmail.com>
	<03ee01d30d5d$3fb91490$bf2b3db0$@net>
Message-ID: <034a01d30f06$d4260c00$7c722400$@net>

I am once again upset with Yaesu. After removing sat antennas from my tower, removing the rotor, completely disassembling the azimuth rotor and guess what I find? A loose set screw. After taking everything apart I discover Yaesu used a set screw to fix the primary pinion gear to the motor. I mean, how stupid is that. I was really pissed, if I was the engineer in charge of the design of the drive system I would of spec'd a drift pin. A set screw really. So I cleaned everything off, applied some blue Locktite, noe all is once again good in KB2M land....
 This is my third G-5500 bought in 2009, the first one was bought used, and when I replaced it when  over 20 years old, second one is in Florida, acquired used age unknown. I'm thinking when assembled, someone forgot to Locktite the set screw on this one. Geezzz...

To all my sat buddies, I will be back OTH tomorrow afternoon....

73 Jeff kb2m



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Griffin
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 4:07 PM
To: 'Dave Webb KB1PVH'
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue

Hi Dave, I saw that. My problem I hearing from a private reply is in the clutch. I also discovered  from a direct reply back to me there is an exploded view in the G-5400 manual.  See?..

 

http://www.foxdelta.com/products/ST2-0816/G5400-G5600.pdf

 

Good ol FoxDelta saved the day!

 

I?m going to get back on it tomorrow morning and see if my G-5500 is close enough to the diagram to take apart. I?ll report back here to the group with my findings?.

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: Dave Webb KB1PVH [mailto:kb1pvh at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 2:59 PM
To: kb2m
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 az issue

 

Jeff,

 

 Not sure if this will be any help to you or not.

 

http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/yaesu-g5500-rotator-motor-repair.html?m=1

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S7

 

On Aug 4, 2017 2:55 PM, "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m at arrl.net> wrote:

I removed the rotor from the tower today and started working on the azimuth rotor. When power is applied via left or right control the motor is running.
I carefully split the case and everything appears intact. Grease is still good, no missing gear teeth, no metal shavings in bottom of housing. So the problem is somewhere in the gearing, or mechanical control. I would like to proceed further but have no  exploded view of the inside of the rotor. I wouldn't want to proceed without some kind of service manual part description view. Does anyone have anything that might help? Does anyone have a clue, maybe had this same problem and fixed it?I already have the useless Yaesu user manual..



73 Jeff kb2m

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From craig at kinsman.co.za  Sun Aug  6 20:12:41 2017
From: craig at kinsman.co.za (Craig Kinsman)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 22:12:41 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
Message-ID: <F02D63ADCC504BC68985CB92CFA1A0E5@McKeena>

Dear Sir

I have been trying to set up a new account at issfanclub.com and I am asked what is the packet radio callsign.

Please help me with this as I dont know it.

Craig
ZS6XKH

From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com  Mon Aug  7 01:03:26 2017
From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 20:03:26 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
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RS0ISS

73,
Gabe
NJ7H/VE6NJH


> On Aug 6, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Craig Kinsman <craig at kinsman.co.za> wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir
> 
> I have been trying to set up a new account at issfanclub.com and I am asked what is the packet radio callsign.
> 
> Please help me with this as I dont know it.
> 
> Craig
> ZS6XKH
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Aug  7 18:11:52 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 14:11:52 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cleaning up the Global APRS Satellite ground station
	network?
Message-ID: <CALdCfN+CxV6XmGXKPNVWTL1=0Ntsm-_yqmqyuL8brOWnjDFDCA@mail.gmail.com>

I think we should better organize our autmoatied automatic APRS satelite
 ground stations. We found about 330 unique IGATES feeding the APRS-IS and
the two APRS satellite networks:
http://pcsat.findu.com  and http://ariss.net

For decades a hot topic at SmalSat conferences has been remote ground
station networks.  Some costing $100,000 or more but with only a half dozen
other stations that seem to always be just one more software, and one more
receiver upgrade to actualy be operating.

Meantime, APRS has had global ground stations by the hundreds. They all
work fine for APRS donwlinks on 145.825.

I am not really interested (for now) in diluting this always-listening
network by spinnning off stations that can be remotely tuned to go listend
to the other hundreds of small sats and their UHF downlinks which require
tracking AND Doppler tuning,  For now, I'd rather encourage more AMSATS to
use our network and provide more APRS transponders!

In addition, I'd like to at least see about making this ground station
netwrok to be TWO_WAY just like APRS was designed, so that small satellite
control operators with satellites on 145.825 can send APRS message back to
their spacecraft for control anywhere anytime. The inherent protocol does
this already (once a fground station has heard the satelite at least once
on that pass).

I do think this transmit path might need to be available only to valid
control operators, though,,,

Remember, with this many stations I have not encouraged AZ/EL active
trackign but just omni receivers.  After seeign all the problems when Yaesu
rotators are run full time, I do not think that is a strong idea for hams
at home...  But maybe universities who have budgets to replace warn out
equipment?

So here are just some initial thoughts about this network we already have:

PHASE 1:

Lets choose a unique set of APRS symbols to clearly identify this network.
In 2008 we expanded the APRS symbol set.  FOr example the \& gateway symbol
has plenty of vacancies we can use for this purpose.  Here are the existing
Gateway overlays:

/& = HF Gateway  <= the original primary table definition
I& = Igate Generic (please use more specific overlay)
R& = Receive only IGate (do not send msgs back to RF)
P& = PSKmail node
T& = TX igate with path set to 1 hop only)
W& = WIRES-X as opposed to W0 for WiresII
2& = TX igate with path set to 2 hops (not generally good idea)

We could; define additional overlays for this Satellite ground
station network:

A& for Omni "AMSAT" ground station (2-way, 50W radio)
L& for Omni "AMSAT" low power or other wise less than optimum sky view
O& for Omni receive Only
H& for HFSAT (that will be our next one in a few years)
Y& for Yaggi oscar class (Gernerallyh tracks APRS sats of current interest)
U& for UHF downlinks chanel (TBD)
S& for Schools and University class (always on and can track on demand?)
and can QSY when we figure out how we want to do this... (and can afford to
wear out their stuff)

V& for Various?  Since APRS has a FREUENCY SPEC already, we can assume that
all stations using these symbols are on 145.825, UNLESS they include a
different frequency in their STATUS text.  A V station might be VARIOUS and
that indicates that it is auto tracking and auto tuning any satellite in
view and is beaconing that frequency in its status each time it changes
frequency.


THen lets come up with some well defined way to categorize capablities so
that it all fits in the station's STATUS packet in a consistent way.

I know there are LOTS of ideas of all kinds of automated linked ground
stations.  I am not trying to disrupt all those ideas, but simple clean up
what I think is what APRS already has?

Does this seem like a plan?

Bob, WB4apr

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Mon Aug  7 22:28:38 2017
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 23:28:38 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] YOTA ARISS Contact Tuesday 8th August
Message-ID: <ea774542-221f-5fe7-455b-30b53989e92f@btinternet.com>

Hi all,

Just to confirm that all the plans have now been finalised for 
tomorrow's ARISS contact with the ISS from the YOTA 2017 event at 
Gilwell Park near London

The FM audio downlink will be on 145.800 MHz as usual and the HAMtv 
system has been switched back on today and is expected to be used by 
Paolo Nespoli for the contact.

Full details about the contact, scheduled to start at 18:38utc, 
including guidance about how to watch the event live on the batc 
webstreams, can be found at 
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/08/03/ariss-contact-yota-2017/

73
Graham G3VZV



From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Mon Aug  7 22:49:17 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:49:17 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cleaning up the Global APRS Satellite ground station
	network?
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfN+CxV6XmGXKPNVWTL1=0Ntsm-_yqmqyuL8brOWnjDFDCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfN+CxV6XmGXKPNVWTL1=0Ntsm-_yqmqyuL8brOWnjDFDCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EC098616-FD34-4CDA-B0F6-39D0FBB2BF32@internode.on.net>

Here is my two cents worth

Space is a valuable asset

Terrestrial aprs can do what it likes

Let's get a better "view space packets" interface

Let's make people register as a ground station

Only takes a second adds you to the filter

That way it keeps the space feed sterile

A

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Aug 2017, at 4:11 am, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> 
> I think we should better organize our autmoatied automatic APRS satelite
> ground stations. We found about 330 unique IGATES feeding the APRS-IS and
> the two APRS satellite networks:
> http://pcsat.findu.com  and http://ariss.net
> 
> For decades a hot topic at SmalSat conferences has been remote ground
> station networks.  Some costing $100,000 or more but with only a half dozen
> other stations that seem to always be just one more software, and one more
> receiver upgrade to actualy be operating.
> 
> Meantime, APRS has had global ground stations by the hundreds. They all
> work fine for APRS donwlinks on 145.825.
> 
> I am not really interested (for now) in diluting this always-listening
> network by spinnning off stations that can be remotely tuned to go listend
> to the other hundreds of small sats and their UHF downlinks which require
> tracking AND Doppler tuning,  For now, I'd rather encourage more AMSATS to
> use our network and provide more APRS transponders!
> 
> In addition, I'd like to at least see about making this ground station
> netwrok to be TWO_WAY just like APRS was designed, so that small satellite
> control operators with satellites on 145.825 can send APRS message back to
> their spacecraft for control anywhere anytime. The inherent protocol does
> this already (once a fground station has heard the satelite at least once
> on that pass).
> 
> I do think this transmit path might need to be available only to valid
> control operators, though,,,
> 
> Remember, with this many stations I have not encouraged AZ/EL active
> trackign but just omni receivers.  After seeign all the problems when Yaesu
> rotators are run full time, I do not think that is a strong idea for hams
> at home...  But maybe universities who have budgets to replace warn out
> equipment?
> 
> So here are just some initial thoughts about this network we already have:
> 
> PHASE 1:
> 
> Lets choose a unique set of APRS symbols to clearly identify this network.
> In 2008 we expanded the APRS symbol set.  FOr example the \& gateway symbol
> has plenty of vacancies we can use for this purpose.  Here are the existing
> Gateway overlays:
> 
> /& = HF Gateway  <= the original primary table definition
> I& = Igate Generic (please use more specific overlay)
> R& = Receive only IGate (do not send msgs back to RF)
> P& = PSKmail node
> T& = TX igate with path set to 1 hop only)
> W& = WIRES-X as opposed to W0 for WiresII
> 2& = TX igate with path set to 2 hops (not generally good idea)
> 
> We could; define additional overlays for this Satellite ground
> station network:
> 
> A& for Omni "AMSAT" ground station (2-way, 50W radio)
> L& for Omni "AMSAT" low power or other wise less than optimum sky view
> O& for Omni receive Only
> H& for HFSAT (that will be our next one in a few years)
> Y& for Yaggi oscar class (Gernerallyh tracks APRS sats of current interest)
> U& for UHF downlinks chanel (TBD)
> S& for Schools and University class (always on and can track on demand?)
> and can QSY when we figure out how we want to do this... (and can afford to
> wear out their stuff)
> 
> V& for Various?  Since APRS has a FREUENCY SPEC already, we can assume that
> all stations using these symbols are on 145.825, UNLESS they include a
> different frequency in their STATUS text.  A V station might be VARIOUS and
> that indicates that it is auto tracking and auto tuning any satellite in
> view and is beaconing that frequency in its status each time it changes
> frequency.
> 
> 
> THen lets come up with some well defined way to categorize capablities so
> that it all fits in the station's STATUS packet in a consistent way.
> 
> I know there are LOTS of ideas of all kinds of automated linked ground
> stations.  I am not trying to disrupt all those ideas, but simple clean up
> what I think is what APRS already has?
> 
> Does this seem like a plan?
> 
> Bob, WB4apr
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From pedro at dutrasousa.name  Mon Aug  7 23:18:18 2017
From: pedro at dutrasousa.name (Pedro Sousa)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 23:18:18 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bright flashy object
In-Reply-To: <6FCB750E-ED43-4745-946A-2A566EF3F8D5@gmail.com>
References: <F02D63ADCC504BC68985CB92CFA1A0E5@McKeena>
	<6FCB750E-ED43-4745-946A-2A566EF3F8D5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a590721e-0e12-cfb7-4d79-5f9a61bfc209@dutrasousa.name>

Hi all,

Tonight right after ISS passed by, in fact a few seconds after it was no
longer visible at 22:44, I spotted a bright object flashing sporadically
and traveling from southwest to northeast. It was too bright, I dare to
say brighter than the ISS itself, but the flashes didn't had the same
intensity and timings. It could have been an airplane but the strobe
lights of one can't be that bright unless it's somewhere within 1 mile.
I thought of Mayak, the Russian satellite, but at the time it was
somewhere near New Zealand, plus the orbit doesn't match what I saw. I
was to get my camera and film it, but by the time I figured it was not
an Iridium flare, which took me a solid minute staring at it, it was gone.
What amazed me was the fact that it was traveling along a very close
path as the sunset line, which could mean that it was getting on and off
the sunlight, if that makes sense at all.
Is there any other satellite up there capable of producing a flash that
bright?

73 Pedro CU2ZG

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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Tue Aug  8 00:18:48 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 10:18:48 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bright flashy object
In-Reply-To: <a590721e-0e12-cfb7-4d79-5f9a61bfc209@dutrasousa.name>
References: <F02D63ADCC504BC68985CB92CFA1A0E5@McKeena>
	<6FCB750E-ED43-4745-946A-2A566EF3F8D5@gmail.com>
	<a590721e-0e12-cfb7-4d79-5f9a61bfc209@dutrasousa.name>
Message-ID: <6551D0E3-1332-4824-93D9-E8F2B553D6B8@internode.on.net>

Mate do you have any idea how much space junk is up there

I will not even start to guess what it could be 

A


> On 8 Aug 2017, at 9:18 am, Pedro Sousa via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Tonight right after ISS passed by, in fact a few seconds after it was no
> longer visible at 22:44, I spotted a bright object flashing sporadically
> and traveling from southwest to northeast. It was too bright, I dare to
> say brighter than the ISS itself, but the flashes didn't had the same
> intensity and timings. It could have been an airplane but the strobe
> lights of one can't be that bright unless it's somewhere within 1 mile.
> I thought of Mayak, the Russian satellite, but at the time it was
> somewhere near New Zealand, plus the orbit doesn't match what I saw. I
> was to get my camera and film it, but by the time I figured it was not
> an Iridium flare, which took me a solid minute staring at it, it was gone.
> What amazed me was the fact that it was traveling along a very close
> path as the sunset line, which could mean that it was getting on and off
> the sunlight, if that makes sense at all.
> Is there any other satellite up there capable of producing a flash that
> bright?
> 
> 73 Pedro CU2ZG
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From dave4e at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 00:50:30 2017
From: dave4e at yahoo.com (Dave Ryan)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 00:50:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cleaning up the Global APRS Satellite ground station
	network?
References: <987139575.1510926.1502153430376.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <987139575.1510926.1502153430376@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Bob 

I run an RX only i-gate in the UK MB7UEI-6. 

Currently it uses AZ/EL active tracking antennas, VHF and UHF wimo Xquads, the system runs 24/7 and also tracks the 3 Funcube sats, I have plans to expand this further and include the station on WEBSDR,? 

 I would be interested to participate. 

Regards 
Dave EI4HT / M0GIW 

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 04:44:12 2017
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 00:44:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cleaning up the Global APRS Satellite ground station
	network?
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfN+CxV6XmGXKPNVWTL1=0Ntsm-_yqmqyuL8brOWnjDFDCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfN+CxV6XmGXKPNVWTL1=0Ntsm-_yqmqyuL8brOWnjDFDCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOYH7t_LTbwD=1i86f98WPnGBccug7MtcJDjY2hthwiQVQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for always thinking of ways to enhance the great APRS system, Bob.

I originally became a member of the "iGate Club" back when the ISS
digipeater temporarily transitioned to UHF.  With the initial shortage of
iGates on 70cm and plenty of SDRs & Raspberry Pi computers in the house, I
did my best to follow the online documentation on how to setup an RX-Only
iGate.  It was quite a thrill to see my K4KDR-10 iGate submit a respectable
number of digipeated packets to ariss.net.

Since the return to 145.825, my setup has not been as effective but I'll
look forward to being a better contributor as more satellites (not to
mention a repaired ISS digipeater) become active on 2 meter APRS.

Following your "PHASE-1" recommendation, I have modified my iGate config to
use the "Omni receive Only" symbol by changing my PBEACON string to:

PBEACON sendto=IG delay=0:30 every=10:00 symbol=O& comment="Raspberry Pi
iGate on 145.825 -- Omni Antenna, RX-Only" lat=37^46.72N long=77^36.58W

... and the result shows up graphically on aprs.fi as shown on this screen
image:

http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//files/2017-08-08--k4kdr-10--aprs-status.png


... so, other than the fact that my status text message is completely
redundant to the "O" symbol AND is also redundant to the implied RX
frequency of 145.825, have I followed the spirit of the PHASE-1
recommendation to display a symbol icon that is a better indication of my
iGate's configuration?

-Scott, K4KDR



=================================================
=================================================

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> I think we should better organize our automated automatic APRS satellite
>  ground stations. We found about 330 unique IGATES feeding the APRS-IS and
> the two APRS satellite networks:
> http://pcsat.findu.com  and http://ariss.net
>
> For decades a hot topic at SmalSat conferences has been remote ground
> station networks.  Some costing $100,000 or more but with only a half dozen
> other stations that seem to always be just one more software, and one more
> receiver upgrade to actualy be operating.
>
> Meantime, APRS has had global ground stations by the hundreds. They all
> work fine for APRS donwlinks on 145.825.
>
> I am not really interested (for now) in diluting this always-listening
> network by spinnning off stations that can be remotely tuned to go listend
> to the other hundreds of small sats and their UHF downlinks which require
> tracking AND Doppler tuning,  For now, I'd rather encourage more AMSATS to
> use our network and provide more APRS transponders!
>
> In addition, I'd like to at least see about making this ground station
> netwrok to be TWO_WAY just like APRS was designed, so that small satellite
> control operators with satellites on 145.825 can send APRS message back to
> their spacecraft for control anywhere anytime. The inherent protocol does
> this already (once a fground station has heard the satelite at least once
> on that pass).
>
> I do think this transmit path might need to be available only to valid
> control operators, though,,,
>
> Remember, with this many stations I have not encouraged AZ/EL active
> trackign but just omni receivers.  After seeign all the problems when Yaesu
> rotators are run full time, I do not think that is a strong idea for hams
> at home...  But maybe universities who have budgets to replace warn out
> equipment?
>
> So here are just some initial thoughts about this network we already have:
>
> PHASE 1:
>
> Lets choose a unique set of APRS symbols to clearly identify this network.
> In 2008 we expanded the APRS symbol set.  FOr example the \& gateway symbol
> has plenty of vacancies we can use for this purpose.  Here are the existing
> Gateway overlays:
>
> /& = HF Gateway  <= the original primary table definition
> I& = Igate Generic (please use more specific overlay)
> R& = Receive only IGate (do not send msgs back to RF)
> P& = PSKmail node
> T& = TX igate with path set to 1 hop only)
> W& = WIRES-X as opposed to W0 for WiresII
> 2& = TX igate with path set to 2 hops (not generally good idea)
>
> We could; define additional overlays for this Satellite ground
> station network:
>
> A& for Omni "AMSAT" ground station (2-way, 50W radio)
> L& for Omni "AMSAT" low power or other wise less than optimum sky view
> O& for Omni receive Only
> H& for HFSAT (that will be our next one in a few years)
> Y& for Yaggi oscar class (Gernerallyh tracks APRS sats of current interest)
> U& for UHF downlinks chanel (TBD)
> S& for Schools and University class (always on and can track on demand?)
> and can QSY when we figure out how we want to do this... (and can afford to
> wear out their stuff)
>
> V& for Various?  Since APRS has a FREUENCY SPEC already, we can assume that
> all stations using these symbols are on 145.825, UNLESS they include a
> different frequency in their STATUS text.  A V station might be VARIOUS and
> that indicates that it is auto tracking and auto tuning any satellite in
> view and is beaconing that frequency in its status each time it changes
> frequency.
>
>
> THen lets come up with some well defined way to categorize capablities so
> that it all fits in the station's STATUS packet in a consistent way.
>
> I know there are LOTS of ideas of all kinds of automated linked ground
> stations.  I am not trying to disrupt all those ideas, but simple clean up
> what I think is what APRS already has?
>
> Does this seem like a plan?
>
> Bob, WB4apr

From osbornes at paradise.net.nz  Tue Aug  8 04:59:27 2017
From: osbornes at paradise.net.nz (Wendy and Terry Osborne)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 16:59:27 +1200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab test flight analysis released
Message-ID: <D1E69AB6C5BE4334B8A9869DCB6CCB7B@OsbornesPC>

Hello Launch watchers,

The report on Rocket Lab?s first test flight is here:
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/latest/rocket-lab-completes-post-flight-analysis/

Memo, turn ON the FEC before launch.

73,

Terry Osborne ZL2BAC

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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Aug  8 12:22:28 2017
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:22:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS contact 1837 GMT today - Receive and Watch Worldwide
References: <1971223661.2666638.1502194948971.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1971223661.2666638.1502194948971@mail.yahoo.com>

Space Station contact planned for YOTA 2017 UK at 1837 GMT Tuesday, August 8 
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/08/03/ariss-contact-yota-2017/

Listen to the Space Station on 145.800 MHz FM 
You can use the SUWS Online Radio to listen from anywhere in the world 
http://websdr.suws.org.uk/

Watch live at?https://ariss.batc.tv/

Don't forget to book for the International Space Colloquium, Milton Keynes, October 14-15Program schedule now available, see 
Colloquium 2017 Saturday Gala Dinner 
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/08/05/colloquium-2017-saturday-gala-dinner/


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From g0mrf at aol.com  Tue Aug  8 12:39:07 2017
From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:39:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium
Message-ID: <15dc1db12be-c0b-d0e@webjas-vab103.srv.aolmail.net>

Hi.

Can anyone confirm the hotel being used for the A-UK dinner on Sat 14th October?

I can see it's a nearby Hilton, but there seem to be 2 in the area. - Don't want to book an overnight stay at the wrong one!

Thanks

David G0MRF

From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Tue Aug  8 12:46:02 2017
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:46:02 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium
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Hi David,

It is the Hilton at Kents Hill MK7 6HL it is NOT the Doubletree at the 
stadium!

cheers

Graham


On 08/08/2017 13:39, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Can anyone confirm the hotel being used for the A-UK dinner on Sat 14th October?
>
> I can see it's a nearby Hilton, but there seem to be 2 in the area. - Don't want to book an overnight stay at the wrong one!
>
> Thanks
>
> David G0MRF
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From ka7fvv at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 13:25:04 2017
From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott Harvey)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:25:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bright flashy object
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Like Andrew says it could be anything. ?Iss is the brightest object short of Sirius, Moon and Sun due to its size. ?If the object was flashing it is probably space debris like a rocket body that is tumbling. ?Hopefully see some of those this weekend on the night of the 12th. ?Going to try observing the Persieds meteor shower.
73, Scott, KA7FVV
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www.kbara.org 
 Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
http://www.ka7fvv.net


On Monday, August 7, 2017, 5:19:23 PM PDT, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

Mate do you have any idea how much space junk is up there

I will not even start to guess what it could be 

A


> On 8 Aug 2017, at 9:18 am, Pedro Sousa via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Tonight right after ISS passed by, in fact a few seconds after it was no
> longer visible at 22:44, I spotted a bright object flashing sporadically
> and traveling from southwest to northeast. It was too bright, I dare to
> say brighter than the ISS itself, but the flashes didn't had the same
> intensity and timings. It could have been an airplane but the strobe
> lights of one can't be that bright unless it's somewhere within 1 mile.
> I thought of Mayak, the Russian satellite, but at the time it was
> somewhere near New Zealand, plus the orbit doesn't match what I saw. I
> was to get my camera and film it, but by the time I figured it was not
> an Iridium flare, which took me a solid minute staring at it, it was gone.
> What amazed me was the fact that it was traveling along a very close
> path as the sunset line, which could mean that it was getting on and off
> the sunlight, if that makes sense at all.
> Is there any other satellite up there capable of producing a flash that
> bright?
> 
> 73 Pedro CU2ZG
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Tue Aug  8 14:43:46 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 10:43:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-08 14:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <2d1401.1d900def.46bb2822@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-08  14:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

YOTA, England, direct via GB4YOTA 
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli  IZ?JPA 
Contact is a go for: Tue 2017-08-08 18:38:37 UTC 82 deg  (***)
Watch for Ham TV  (***)

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 123 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with  119

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-08 14:30 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1151. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1110. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-06 21:00 UTC.   

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 17:30:53 2017
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:30:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for the
	election?
Message-ID: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>

I'd have contacted our well paid staff. info at amsat.org bounces from the webpage.

No ballot yet. Did receive the mag, so the database has the correct address.

Don't want to miss my opportunity to exercise governance.

Wonder why this happened.

Spent 5 years as the Secretary Treasurer of a labor union. Teamsters
sent me to school so that I might learn all about governing,
governance and regulations.

Elections can be nullified by irregularities. Loss of 501c3?

Norm McSweyn

n3ykf

From zmetzing at pobox.com  Tue Aug  8 17:39:56 2017
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:39:56 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for the
 election?
In-Reply-To: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20170808173954.GA29567@monolith>

On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 12:30:53PM -0500, Norm n3ykf wrote:
> Wonder why this happened.
> 
> Spent 5 years as the Secretary Treasurer of a labor union. Teamsters
> sent me to school so that I might learn all about governing,
> governance and regulations.
> 
> Elections can be nullified by irregularities. Loss of 501c3?

Norm,

I received my ballot, voted, and returned it. Perhaps yours was lost in
the mail? The USPS is not a reliable, guaranteed vehicle for information,
unless that ballot was sent via Registered Mail.

I'd ask, nicely, if someone still has the ballot and would be kind enough
to send you a copy to cast your vote on. 

Rational action before lighting up AMSAT with threats? Probably a good thing.

73,

--- Zach
N0ZGO

From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 17:48:08 2017
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:48:08 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for the
	election?
In-Reply-To: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJUhCTMUeUvaOmVHQ7xLAv7M74Jp_AtD+EA=+jJixAKofTW37g@mail.gmail.com>

Waiting for my ballot, which I paid for.

Expecting a response from my elected officals, not the peanut gallery.
Then again, what more could I expect.

Norm



On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd have contacted our well paid staff. info at amsat.org bounces from the webpage.
>
> No ballot yet. Did receive the mag, so the database has the correct address.
>
> Don't want to miss my opportunity to exercise governance.
>
> Wonder why this happened.
>
> Spent 5 years as the Secretary Treasurer of a labor union. Teamsters
> sent me to school so that I might learn all about governing,
> governance and regulations.
>
> Elections can be nullified by irregularities. Loss of 501c3?
>
> Norm McSweyn
>
> n3ykf

From dave at druidnetworks.com  Tue Aug  8 17:55:53 2017
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:55:53 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for the
	election?
In-Reply-To: <CAJUhCTMUeUvaOmVHQ7xLAv7M74Jp_AtD+EA=+jJixAKofTW37g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTMUeUvaOmVHQ7xLAv7M74Jp_AtD+EA=+jJixAKofTW37g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANq+eyVqGgOyziyZxvzYEWv__gJ3kbmaKCp35kaVNih13qX+kA@mail.gmail.com>

We're just trying to help Norm by suggesting some other possibilities. by
any chance have you had your mail forwarded to the World Wide Headquarters
in Echo Mary Fifty Five? Sometimes the USPS treats things like postcards
differently when it comes to forwarding. Also, my kid sometimes brings the
mail in and has a tendency to drop small parcels in the bushes behind the
PVC, where they hide until someone goes in after them. Did you check in
your bushes behind the PVC?  I'll keep thinking on some other
possibilities. I'm sure it was nothing malicious.

Dave, KG5CCI

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Waiting for my ballot, which I paid for.
>
> Expecting a response from my elected officals, not the peanut gallery.
> Then again, what more could I expect.
>
> Norm
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'd have contacted our well paid staff. info at amsat.org bounces from the
> webpage.
> >
> > No ballot yet. Did receive the mag, so the database has the correct
> address.
> >
> > Don't want to miss my opportunity to exercise governance.
> >
> > Wonder why this happened.
> >
> > Spent 5 years as the Secretary Treasurer of a labor union. Teamsters
> > sent me to school so that I might learn all about governing,
> > governance and regulations.
> >
> > Elections can be nullified by irregularities. Loss of 501c3?
> >
> > Norm McSweyn
> >
> > n3ykf
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From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 18:04:15 2017
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:04:15 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for the
	election?
In-Reply-To: <CAJUhCTMUeUvaOmVHQ7xLAv7M74Jp_AtD+EA=+jJixAKofTW37g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTMUeUvaOmVHQ7xLAv7M74Jp_AtD+EA=+jJixAKofTW37g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANOtx_cjSpmcq_XuukkZcuiR26Ms-Vhtf6jCznCGA81sKwQMjw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Norm,
A direct contact is martha at amsat.org

On Aug 8, 2017 12:48 PM, "Norm n3ykf" <normanlizeth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Waiting for my ballot, which I paid for.
>
> Expecting a response from my elected officals, not the peanut gallery.
> Then again, what more could I expect.
>
> Norm
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'd have contacted our well paid staff. info at amsat.org bounces from the
> webpage.
> >
> > No ballot yet. Did receive the mag, so the database has the correct
> address.
> >
> > Don't want to miss my opportunity to exercise governance.
> >
> > Wonder why this happened.
> >
> > Spent 5 years as the Secretary Treasurer of a labor union. Teamsters
> > sent me to school so that I might learn all about governing,
> > governance and regulations.
> >
> > Elections can be nullified by irregularities. Loss of 501c3?
> >
> > Norm McSweyn
> >
> > n3ykf
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From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 18:40:14 2017
From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:40:14 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for the
	election?
In-Reply-To: <CAEGYLCuM-p-t_n0q4on9PcS-n0Tpx1j-18LHAqwmQbLByonpkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEGYLCuM-p-t_n0q4on9PcS-n0Tpx1j-18LHAqwmQbLByonpkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEGYLCtok8HH=LasD9Bq8Gv=R=2AqRPSnTHqNm7Hcz8dipB7MQ@mail.gmail.com>

I never received mine. When I noted it to leadership I was told "sorry,
nothing can be done, deal with it".

73,
Gabe
NJ7H/VE6NJH

On Aug 8, 2017 12:31 PM, "Norm n3ykf" <normanlizeth at gmail.com> wrote:

I'd have contacted our well paid staff. info at amsat.org bounces from the
webpage.

No ballot yet. Did receive the mag, so the database has the correct address.

Don't want to miss my opportunity to exercise governance.

Wonder why this happened.

Spent 5 years as the Secretary Treasurer of a labor union. Teamsters
sent me to school so that I might learn all about governing,
governance and regulations.

Elections can be nullified by irregularities. Loss of 501c3?

Norm McSweyn

n3ykf
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From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Aug  8 19:56:01 2017
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 19:56:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] YOTA 2017 ISS contact now at 2015 GMT
References: <1818357135.3160699.1502222161167.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1818357135.3160699.1502222161167@mail.yahoo.com>

ISS contact with #YOTA2017 at Gilwell Park, UK will now take place at 2015 GMT (9:15pm BST) on 145.800 MHz FM. Paolo Nespoli IZ0JPA will use the Kenwood TM-D710 transceiver located in the Russian Service Module.

There will be no HamTV as that is located in the Columbus Module amateur station.

You can use the SUWS Online Radio to listen to the ISS downlink on 145.800 MHz FM from anywhere in the world http://websdr.suws.org.uk/

#YOTA2017 video from the HamTV on the ISS 
UHF Satcom @uhf_satcom Tweeted:
A quick bit of video from the @BATCOnline Minitiouner board captured directly from the ISS @ 2395MHz; using usual 88cm dish with helix feed 
http://pic.twitter.com/SS9NXqTvyi


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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Tue Aug  8 23:11:32 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 09:11:32 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
Message-ID: <93C1FF74-D079-4434-A577-1868FF42367B@internode.on.net>

Anyone using an icom 910 on 9600 baud packet ?

Where do you connect on radio ? 

A

Sent from my iPhone

From jim at coloradosatellite.com  Tue Aug  8 23:42:25 2017
From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:42:25 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] sats to hear from Fairbanks
Message-ID: <01ba36b5-ea5f-89e5-3278-786b831f2f0c@coloradosatellite.com>

We will be putting in a new UHF ground station in Fairbanks next week 
and would appreciate any suggestions as to what sats to listen for when 
testing the downlink capability.  435 - 437 or 450 downlinks.  They need 
to be polar-ish, Fairbanks is 64.8N.

Jim



From scott23192 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 23:53:38 2017
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 19:53:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digipeater back up?
Message-ID: <C901E15AB2034CC99126F83D116F0E98@CSI9020>

I see there are recent entries on ariss.net indicating packets digipeated via the ISS.

Anyone have information on the status of that asset?

I have a good pass later tonight and will certainly give it a try.

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR

From w3ab at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  9 00:05:59 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 00:05:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
In-Reply-To: <93C1FF74-D079-4434-A577-1868FF42367B@internode.on.net>
References: <93C1FF74-D079-4434-A577-1868FF42367B@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1516903596.20086.1502237159074@mail.yahoo.com>

The manual is pretty clear about that. You do have the instruction manual??---? 
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? 
 GEO ??? 

 http://www.w3ab.org

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

      From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 4:15 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
   
Anyone using an icom 910 on 9600 baud packet ?

Where do you connect on radio ? 

A

Sent from my iPhone
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From royldean at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 00:19:37 2017
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:19:37 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Digipeater back up?
Message-ID: <CADGPg2vP04HfJk1Tz3deJNnhX5=mC01XaAZ0pT1RwTEHJwMbsA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:11 PM, <amsat-bb-request at amsat.org> wrote:

> I see there are recent entries on ariss.net indicating packets digipeated via the ISS.
>
> Anyone have information on the status of that asset?
>
> I have a good pass later tonight and will certainly give it a try.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR
>
>

Scott, it's been sporadic the last day or so.  I'm going to attempt the
00:52z pass myself, see if I can get in.

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Wed Aug  9 00:19:58 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:19:58 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digipeater back up?
In-Reply-To: <C901E15AB2034CC99126F83D116F0E98@CSI9020>
References: <C901E15AB2034CC99126F83D116F0E98@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <D363F66D-FD91-4A0B-9BE5-6C1A6191D835@internode.on.net>

Looks like she is back up

Dunno what they did

A

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Aug 2017, at 9:53 am, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I see there are recent entries on ariss.net indicating packets digipeated via the ISS.
> 
> Anyone have information on the status of that asset?
> 
> I have a good pass later tonight and will certainly give it a try.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Scott,  K4KDR
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 00:52:10 2017
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:52:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digipeater back up?
In-Reply-To: <D363F66D-FD91-4A0B-9BE5-6C1A6191D835@internode.on.net>
References: <C901E15AB2034CC99126F83D116F0E98@CSI9020>
	<D363F66D-FD91-4A0B-9BE5-6C1A6191D835@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKMHBhA9ujp5TXwFW_S6ao-JgaEQGaiBoS_Zk0wYB2RjqQ@mail.gmail.com>

They tried to use the Ericsson for an ARISS contact in the UK today so they
could also use HamTV in Columbus module. Ericsson had issues and they had
to switch to Kenwood in Service Module. I guess something in the process of
that got it working again.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Aug 8, 2017 8:28 PM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Looks like she is back up
>
> Dunno what they did
>
> A
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 9 Aug 2017, at 9:53 am, Scott <scott23192 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I see there are recent entries on ariss.net indicating packets
> digipeated via the ISS.
> >
> > Anyone have information on the status of that asset?
> >
> > I have a good pass later tonight and will certainly give it a try.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Scott,  K4KDR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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From ka3hsw at att.net  Wed Aug  9 00:57:16 2017
From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 19:57:16 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
In-Reply-To: <93C1FF74-D079-4434-A577-1868FF42367B@internode.on.net>
References: <93C1FF74-D079-4434-A577-1868FF42367B@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <D3CCB9AF11ED482987B83692B56A7B5D@RadioRoomPC>

Not actually doing 9600 baud packet myself, but the data connectors on the
back use pin 1 for 1200/9600 data in, pin 2 is ground, pin 3 PTT, pin 4 9600
data out, pin 5 1200 data out, and pin 6 SQL status (LOW when open, 8V when
closed).


George, KA3HSW



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 6:12 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud

Anyone using an icom 910 on 9600 baud packet ?

Where do you connect on radio ? 

A




From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Wed Aug  9 01:05:48 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:05:48 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
In-Reply-To: <D3CCB9AF11ED482987B83692B56A7B5D@RadioRoomPC>
References: <93C1FF74-D079-4434-A577-1868FF42367B@internode.on.net>
	<D3CCB9AF11ED482987B83692B56A7B5D@RadioRoomPC>
Message-ID: <B429CDA4-4C8E-42C0-AADC-50B2EE3732AA@internode.on.net>

Perfect thanks George

I noted some menu settings in the radio as well

Cheers thanks for that

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Aug 2017, at 10:57 am, George Henry <ka3hsw at att.net> wrote:
> 
> Not actually doing 9600 baud packet myself, but the data connectors on the
> back use pin 1 for 1200/9600 data in, pin 2 is ground, pin 3 PTT, pin 4 9600
> data out, pin 5 1200 data out, and pin 6 SQL status (LOW when open, 8V when
> closed).
> 
> 
> George, KA3HSW
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 6:12 PM
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
> 
> Anyone using an icom 910 on 9600 baud packet ?
> 
> Where do you connect on radio ? 
> 
> A
> 
> 
> 


From w9gb at icloud.com  Wed Aug  9 01:55:35 2017
From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 20:55:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab test flight analysis released
Message-ID: <F8AD3003-9D76-4C89-B965-F7045169E4E9@icloud.com>

Terry -

I read this Rocket Lab "post-flight analysis" of the Electron launcher earlier today.
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/latest/rocket-lab-completes-post-flight-analysis/

As I came to analysis section about the handling of flight telemetry (not turning ON the Forward Error Correction (FEC) before launch), I had an AMSAT-NA moment.

I remembered Phil Karn, KA9Q at the annual AMSAT-NA Conferences in 1990s ... 
pushing that Forward Error Correction (FEC) to be included in future telemetry designs.
The general reception, 20+ years ago was mixed (Why change?), but AO-40 saw its usage.
http://www.ka9q.net/ao40/

So after 20 to 25 years ... Rocket Labs has shown that the "human component" continues to exhibit unacceptable failure rates.

greg, w9gb
Sent from iPad Air

From n8fgv at usa.net  Wed Aug  9 02:10:48 2017
From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 22:10:48 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for the
	election?
Message-ID: <306VHicJW6000S07.1502244648@web07.cms.usa.net>

>>No ballot yet. Did receive the mag, so the database has the correct
address.
>>Don't want to miss my opportunity to exercise governance.
>>Wonder why this happened.

Is your membership lapsed? That's what happened to me last year, forgot to
send in the renewal. 

>>Elections can be nullified by irregularities.

Issuing duplicate ballots to everyone who claims to have not received their
first ballot is another good way to cause irregularities in the vote. The
ballot comes as an enclosure inside a first class letter with candidate
biographies and registration material for the symposium, it is not sent to you
as a postcard. I have rarely if ever had a first class letter go missing,
whatever you think of our government postal system, they do deliver the mail
99.99% of the time. (And the private UPS company lost one of our boxes of
symposium proceedings last year, which is why some of you did not get your
proceedings book in a timely manner on board the ship.)

Call Martha and see if your membership is current.....

73, Dan N8fGV




From w3ab at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  9 02:34:59 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 19:34:59 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
In-Reply-To: <B429CDA4-4C8E-42C0-AADC-50B2EE3732AA@internode.on.net>
References: <93C1FF74-D079-4434-A577-1868FF42367B@internode.on.net>
	<D3CCB9AF11ED482987B83692B56A7B5D@RadioRoomPC>
	<B429CDA4-4C8E-42C0-AADC-50B2EE3732AA@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <c34b9e6b-ea97-4283-a4b2-1407f2af32dc@yahoo.com>

Yes indeed. The radio is very configurable.

I really like mine. Thinking about adding the 1.2 gig module.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Aug 8, 2017, 18:09, at 18:09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>Perfect thanks George
>
>I noted some menu settings in the radio as well
>
>Cheers thanks for that
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 9 Aug 2017, at 10:57 am, George Henry <ka3hsw at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Not actually doing 9600 baud packet myself, but the data connectors
>on the
>> back use pin 1 for 1200/9600 data in, pin 2 is ground, pin 3 PTT, pin
>4 9600
>> data out, pin 5 1200 data out, and pin 6 SQL status (LOW when open,
>8V when
>> closed).
>> 
>> 
>> George, KA3HSW
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
>Andrew Rich
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 6:12 PM
>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
>> 
>> Anyone using an icom 910 on 9600 baud packet ?
>> 
>> Where do you connect on radio ? 
>> 
>> A
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From w3ab at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  9 03:03:02 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 20:03:02 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for
	the	election?
In-Reply-To: <306VHicJW6000S07.1502244648@web07.cms.usa.net>
References: <306VHicJW6000S07.1502244648@web07.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <7a75e0b5-1141-4760-b06a-7dbda8ebf147@yahoo.com>

Rcvd mine, and sent it in.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Aug 8, 2017, 19:12, at 19:12, Daniel Schultz <n8fgv at usa.net> wrote:
>>>No ballot yet. Did receive the mag, so the database has the correct
>address.
>>>Don't want to miss my opportunity to exercise governance.
>>>Wonder why this happened.
>
>Is your membership lapsed? That's what happened to me last year, forgot
>to
>send in the renewal. 
>
>>>Elections can be nullified by irregularities.
>
>Issuing duplicate ballots to everyone who claims to have not received
>their
>first ballot is another good way to cause irregularities in the vote.
>The
>ballot comes as an enclosure inside a first class letter with candidate
>biographies and registration material for the symposium, it is not sent
>to you
>as a postcard. I have rarely if ever had a first class letter go
>missing,
>whatever you think of our government postal system, they do deliver the
>mail
>99.99% of the time. (And the private UPS company lost one of our boxes
>of
>symposium proceedings last year, which is why some of you did not get
>your
>proceedings book in a timely manner on board the ship.)
>
>Call Martha and see if your membership is current.....
>
>73, Dan N8fGV
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
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From mrtoburen7 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 02:46:25 2017
From: mrtoburen7 at gmail.com (mrtoburen7)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 22:46:25 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on Sats
Message-ID: <598a8394.d79b370a.ec810.743e@mx.google.com>

Gentlemen,
I'm pretty new to sats and very surprised there aren't any CW QSOs. Why? ?CW is much easier to track than SSB w Doppler.
Marshall AA0FO


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

From w3ab at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  9 03:48:22 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 20:48:22 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on Sats
In-Reply-To: <598a8394.d79b370a.ec810.743e@mx.google.com>
References: <598a8394.d79b370a.ec810.743e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <1a3c8067-ae4a-4736-9367-dca19d32baa5@yahoo.com>

Strange you should ask that. My first SAT contact was a CW contact.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Aug 8, 2017, 20:39, at 20:39, mrtoburen7 <mrtoburen7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>Gentlemen,
>I'm pretty new to sats and very surprised there aren't any CW QSOs.
>Why? ?CW is much easier to track than SSB w Doppler.
>Marshall AA0FO
>
>
>Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Wed Aug  9 04:05:59 2017
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 00:05:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on Sats
In-Reply-To: <598a8394.d79b370a.ec810.743e@mx.google.com>
References: <598a8394.d79b370a.ec810.743e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <37F6939D-1E53-4BED-967A-ECBDD1EB2CDA@mrstevens.net>

I heard a couple of nice CW qsos on fo29 just now...they're out there, but not a huge amount of activity. CW gets a bad rap because of a few inconsiderate operators who run WAY too much power. The on/off nature of a cw signal combined with more than a few watts output is very hard on the satellites AGC system, and can make it difficult for other operators to use the transponder. Many people use cw to compensate for poor receive performance at their stations, "pumping" the birds receive AGC with high power and making it generally miserable for all the other operators.

That said, I've made at least one cw qso on fo29, and heard quite a few others that weren't abusing the transponder. When the power is kept down low (I would say maybe 3w or less, depending on the elevation of the bird during the pass) it can work well. No chirp, no hitting the AGC hard, just a good clean downlink signal.

Take a listen around some evening passes, you might hear more than you'd think!

73,
- Matthew kk4fem

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 22:46, mrtoburen7 <mrtoburen7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Gentlemen,
> I'm pretty new to sats and very surprised there aren't any CW QSOs. Why?  CW is much easier to track than SSB w Doppler.
> Marshall AA0FO
> 
> 
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.
> _______________________________________________
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From ka3hsw at att.net  Wed Aug  9 04:25:23 2017
From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 23:25:23 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud
In-Reply-To: <c34b9e6b-ea97-4283-a4b2-1407f2af32dc@yahoo.com>
References: <93C1FF74-D079-4434-A577-1868FF42367B@internode.on.net>
	<D3CCB9AF11ED482987B83692B56A7B5D@RadioRoomPC>
	<B429CDA4-4C8E-42C0-AADC-50B2EE3732AA@internode.on.net>
	<c34b9e6b-ea97-4283-a4b2-1407f2af32dc@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6FA40CD4A42945479B4AB50E63BBDC16@RadioRoomPC>

I've had the 1.2 gig module on my eBay watch list for a couple of years.
When they DO show up (not often), the asking price is usually way out of my
budget...

 

 

George, KA3HSW

 

  _____  

From: W3AB/GEO [mailto:w3ab at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:35 PM
To: Andrew Rich
Cc: George Henry; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud

 

Yes indeed. The radio is very configurable.

I really like mine. Thinking about adding the 1.2 gig module.

___

Sent from my two way wrist watch

73 de W3AB/GEO

On Aug 8, 2017, at 18:09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

Perfect thanks George





I noted some menu settings in the radio as well





Cheers thanks for that





Sent from my iPhone
 On 9 Aug 2017, at 10:57 am, George Henry <ka3hsw at att.net> wrote:


 


 Not actually doing 9600 baud packet myself, but the data connectors on the


 back use pin 1 for 1200/9600 data in, pin 2 is ground, pin 3 PTT, pin 4
9600


 data out, pin 5 1200 data out, and pin 6 SQL status (LOW when open, 8V when


 closed).


 


 


 George, KA3HSW


 


 


 


 -----Original Message-----


 From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich


 Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 6:12 PM


 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org


 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910 / 9600 baud


 


 Anyone using an icom 910 on 9600 baud packet ?


 


 Where do you connect on radio ? 


 


 A


 


 


 
 





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From tc.fischer at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  9 04:16:46 2017
From: tc.fischer at yahoo.com (Terry Fischer)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 21:16:46 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digipeater back up?
Message-ID: <F29AB067-21C7-4D65-A428-4C07BF72BA90@yahoo.com>


I received packets from RS0ISS and KF1BUZ on the 04:03 low pass in DM13hw. The OSCAR status page gives me an error every time I try to post a report. 
Terry K6TDI 
----------
iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:52 PM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> 


From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 04:35:09 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 21:35:09 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone else not receive their BOD ballot for the
	election?
In-Reply-To: <CAJUhCTMUeUvaOmVHQ7xLAv7M74Jp_AtD+EA=+jJixAKofTW37g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJUhCTMdfDLW7GzY=OAnfkfQwDJZ-7rvxwm+Kcdb8fC_Vn9zhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTMUeUvaOmVHQ7xLAv7M74Jp_AtD+EA=+jJixAKofTW37g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9646465B-0509-479B-96FF-59AA286E6780@gmail.com>

Norm,

You sent an email to a group, the "peanut gallery" if you will. You got a response from the group. You're absolutely correct, what more did you expect? Have you contacted elected officials directly? This seems like the logical thing to do if you didn't want a response from anyone else. Also, maybe next time you'll consider leaving out past qualifications followed by what can be considered as threats if you don't want a reaction out of the community.

Furthermore, have you even considered that it might have simply been lost in the mail, I've heard this happens with QSLs too. I got my ballot but also got someone's mail a couple days ago as well, things getting lost in transit is not that far fetched. 

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Waiting for my ballot, which I paid for.
> 
> Expecting a response from my elected officals, not the peanut gallery.
> Then again, what more could I expect.
> 
> Norm
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'd have contacted our well paid staff. info at amsat.org bounces from the webpage.
>> 
>> No ballot yet. Did receive the mag, so the database has the correct address.
>> 
>> Don't want to miss my opportunity to exercise governance.
>> 
>> Wonder why this happened.
>> 
>> Spent 5 years as the Secretary Treasurer of a labor union. Teamsters
>> sent me to school so that I might learn all about governing,
>> governance and regulations.
>> 
>> Elections can be nullified by irregularities. Loss of 501c3?
>> 
>> Norm McSweyn
>> 
>> n3ykf
> _______________________________________________
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 04:37:30 2017
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 00:37:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS digipeater back up?
In-Reply-To: <F29AB067-21C7-4D65-A428-4C07BF72BA90@yahoo.com>
References: <F29AB067-21C7-4D65-A428-4C07BF72BA90@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOaQLgydpAWQnN-Drh=7OAQVuC5Ua1ReVZLc63P__1cRcA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all who replied.

I had several transmissions digipeated on tonight's ISS pass; so nice to
see it back in operation!

73!

-Scott,  K4KDR


==========================

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Terry Fischer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

>
> I received packets from RS0ISS and KF1BUZ on the 04:03 low pass in DM13hw.
> The OSCAR status page gives me an error every time I try to post a report.
> Terry K6TDI

From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Aug  9 05:05:54 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 01:05:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] sats to hear from Fairbanks
In-Reply-To: <01ba36b5-ea5f-89e5-3278-786b831f2f0c@coloradosatellite.com>
References: <01ba36b5-ea5f-89e5-3278-786b831f2f0c@coloradosatellite.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNJBv0JCPJd8qBSXG+joQrL=J407fc8LAsbK639FeC7TnQ@mail.gmail.com>

The 435.350 MHz FM downoink on PSAT PSK31 is often on, though someone needs
to be transmitting on 28.121 MHz with PSK31 in order for the transponder to
come up.  But that is the terrestrrial PSK31 frequency so really all it
needs is ANYONE to be on 10m PSK31 and it will be up.

BOb


On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Jim White <jim at coloradosatellite.com> wrote:

> We will be putting in a new UHF ground station in Fairbanks next week and
> would appreciate any suggestions as to what sats to listen for when testing
> the downlink capability.  435 - 437 or 450 downlinks.  They need to be
> polar-ish, Fairbanks is 64.8N.
>
> Jim
>
>
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Wed Aug  9 05:35:00 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 01:35:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on Sats -Try PSAT?
Message-ID: <CALdCfNLwKrdMGo9-7fLaHebFM0EKjS8re=KjEDty3CDbSk_JPA@mail.gmail.com>

At the risk of inviting plenty of negative comments, but for the sake of
experimentaion,  I wonder if someone mkght want to try to make some CW
contacts on the PSAT PSK31 HF transponder.

THe problem is if there is other 10m PSK31 activity, the terrestrial users
would not like to see CW in the PSK31 band.  But if no one else was on, it
wouldnt bother me if someone wanted to experiment with CW via the PSAT
uplink.

But if there is no one on PSK31, then the transponder wont come up...  SO
eitehr one of the experimenters needs to key down a PSK31 signal so others
could send the CW.  Or one person could try keying CW using their PSK31
carrier and then key that so that the 31Hz auto-key-up would bring the
transponder up.

I hate to admit that I don't listen enough to know if this is a dumb idea
or not.

Bob, WB4APR

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
wrote:

> I heard a couple of nice CW qsos on fo29 just now...they're out there, but
> not a huge amount of activity. CW gets a bad rap because of a few
> inconsiderate operators who run WAY too much power. The on/off nature of a
> cw signal combined with more than a few watts output is very hard on the
> satellites AGC system, and can make it difficult for other operators to use
> the transponder. Many people use cw to compensate for poor receive
> performance at their stations, "pumping" the birds receive AGC with high
> power and making it generally miserable for all the other operators.
>
> That said, I've made at least one cw qso on fo29, and heard quite a few
> others that weren't abusing the transponder. When the power is kept down
> low (I would say maybe 3w or less, depending on the elevation of the bird
> during the pass) it can work well. No chirp, no hitting the AGC hard, just
> a good clean downlink signal.
>
> Take a listen around some evening passes, you might hear more than you'd
> think!
>
> 73,
> - Matthew kk4fem
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 8, 2017, at 22:46, mrtoburen7 <mrtoburen7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> > I'm pretty new to sats and very surprised there aren't any CW QSOs.
> Why?  CW is much easier to track than SSB w Doppler.
> > Marshall AA0FO
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Wed Aug  9 07:42:09 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 03:42:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-09 08:00
	UTC Quick list of schedu
Message-ID: <2e0fdf.1ef27c5c.46bc16d1@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-09  08:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

International Summer Camp #3?? with children from Republic  of 
Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB (***)
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be RS?ISS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Fyodor  Yurchikhin RN3FI (***)
Contact was successful 2017-08-05 16:25  UTC

YOTA, England, direct via GB4YOTA 
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli  IZ?JPA 
Contact failed: Tue 2017-08-08 18:38:37 UTC 82 deg (***)
Contact  was successful: 2017-08-05 16:25 UTC (***)
Watch for Ham  TV

Takaishi City Central Public Hall, Takaishi City, Japan, direct  via 8N3TA 
(***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The  scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact is a go for: Mon  2017-08-14 10:37:04 UTC 57 deg (***)

Fleet Science Center, BE WISE  Program, San Diego, CA, direct via KJ6KDZ 
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA  
Contact is a go for: Sat 2017-08-19 16:44:41 UTC 32 deg  (***)

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 123 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with  119

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-09 08:00 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1153. (***)
Each school counts  as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1112.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time  slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A  complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-09 08:00 UTC.   
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Wed Aug  9 10:11:10 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 20:11:10 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] New facility: Satellite Reporter V1.0 ( web based
	satellite portal )
Message-ID: <011b01d310f7$d5d5c700$81815500$@internode.on.net>

Hello

 

I am working on a little project here

 

It is a raspberry Pi, that is connected to the APRS-IS and will eventually also take in user reports as well from a form

 

If a satellite only APRS-IS comes about then the data will come from there ?

 

It is on my static ip http://59.167.159.165/

 

It is called ?Satellite Reporter? 

 

It is intended to provide a dashboard, stats in graphical format and also data streams.

 

Please let me know if you want any features added as this project grows.

 

I see a user input screen and drop downs for satellites. 

 

I will make an iPhone and Samsung compatible version.

 

The back end is MySQL and PERL and CGI 

 

I will add ISS for the time being, please check back often for updates.

 

I think it best to use UTC times for the time being.

 

Andrew VK4TEC 


From rick at vk6xlr.net  Wed Aug  9 10:39:44 2017
From: rick at vk6xlr.net (Rick Kowalewski)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 18:39:44 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] New facility: Satellite Reporter V1.0 ( web based
 satellite portal )
In-Reply-To: <011b01d310f7$d5d5c700$81815500$@internode.on.net>
References: <011b01d310f7$d5d5c700$81815500$@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <833a53d4-26b2-55da-16e6-40c258df9567@vk6xlr.net>

There already is a reporting system available:
http://www.amsat.org/status/

Tracking with Satellite info:
http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm

73,
Rick VK6XLR

On 9/08/2017 18:11, Andrew Rich wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am working on a little project here
>
> It is a raspberry Pi, that is connected to the APRS-IS and will eventually also take in user reports as well from a form
>
> If a satellite only APRS-IS comes about then the data will come from there ?
>
> It is on my static ip http://59.167.159.165/
>
> It is called ?Satellite Reporter?
>
> It is intended to provide a dashboard, stats in graphical format and also data streams.
>
> Please let me know if you want any features added as this project grows.
>
> I see a user input screen and drop downs for satellites.
>
> I will make an iPhone and Samsung compatible version.
>
> The back end is MySQL and PERL and CGI
>
> I will add ISS for the time being, please check back often for updates.
>
> I think it best to use UTC times for the time being.
>
> Andrew VK4TEC
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Wed Aug  9 10:03:27 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (vk4tec at tech-software.net)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 20:03:27 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Reporter V1.0
Message-ID: <000001d310f6$c218c9c0$464a5d40$@tech-software.net>

Hello

 

I am working on a little project here

 

It is a raspberry Pi, that is connected to the APRS-IS and will eventually
also take in user reports as well 

 

It is on my static ip http://59.167.159.165/

 

It is called "Satellite Reporter" 

 

It is intended to provide a dashboard, stats in graphical format and also
data streams.

 

Please let me know if you want any features added as this project grows.

 

I see a user input screen and drop downs for satellites. 

 

I will make an iPhone and Samsung compatible version.

 

The back end is MySQL and PERL and CGI 

 

I will add ISS for the time being, please check back often for updates.

 

I think it best to use UTC times for the time being.

 

Andrew VK4TEC 


From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Wed Aug  9 11:03:35 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 21:03:35 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] New facility: Satellite Reporter V1.0 ( web based
	satellite portal )
In-Reply-To: <833a53d4-26b2-55da-16e6-40c258df9567@vk6xlr.net>
References: <011b01d310f7$d5d5c700$81815500$@internode.on.net>
	<833a53d4-26b2-55da-16e6-40c258df9567@vk6xlr.net>
Message-ID: <013201d310ff$26608140$732183c0$@internode.on.net>

Thank you Rick

This web site takes user reports by hand and does not draw from the world wide data stream of satellite ground stations.

It relies only on user input

Regards

Andrew 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Kowalewski [mailto:rick at vk6xlr.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 8:40 PM
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at tapr.org>; AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New facility: Satellite Reporter V1.0 ( web based satellite portal )

There already is a reporting system available:
http://www.amsat.org/status/

Tracking with Satellite info:
http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm

73,
Rick VK6XLR

On 9/08/2017 18:11, Andrew Rich wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am working on a little project here
>
> It is a raspberry Pi, that is connected to the APRS-IS and will 
> eventually also take in user reports as well from a form
>
> If a satellite only APRS-IS comes about then the data will come from 
> there ?
>
> It is on my static ip http://59.167.159.165/
>
> It is called ?Satellite Reporter?
>
> It is intended to provide a dashboard, stats in graphical format and also data streams.
>
> Please let me know if you want any features added as this project grows.
>
> I see a user input screen and drop downs for satellites.
>
> I will make an iPhone and Samsung compatible version.
>
> The back end is MySQL and PERL and CGI
>
> I will add ISS for the time being, please check back often for updates.
>
> I think it best to use UTC times for the time being.
>
> Andrew VK4TEC
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



From peter at 2e0sql.co.uk  Wed Aug  9 12:19:19 2017
From: peter at 2e0sql.co.uk (Peter Goodhall)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 13:19:19 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] New facility: Satellite Reporter V1.0 ( web based
 satellite portal )
In-Reply-To: <CAFvUaio_AWWtb-0uQBA9-rZJ8SjtqbHNts42e5VHVOgNfJfaxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <011b01d310f7$d5d5c700$81815500$@internode.on.net>
	<833a53d4-26b2-55da-16e6-40c258df9567@vk6xlr.net>
	<013201d310ff$26608140$732183c0$@internode.on.net>
	<CAFvUairUiBgOHfNOsFWp=MvwQ+DDRf1VTN0ku-CxBKU-c+jfmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFvUaio_AWWtb-0uQBA9-rZJ8SjtqbHNts42e5VHVOgNfJfaxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFvUaiokmL0kKUXX=_yC4r+j+0j61QEcRZ_qty=QYJ7w6-HXwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bit confused by your comment, I can assure you the AMSAT Status page is
populated by hams it's not automated.

Peter

On Aug 9, 2017 12:10, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

Thank you Rick

This web site takes user reports by hand and does not draw from the world
wide data stream of satellite ground stations.

It relies only on user input

Regards

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Kowalewski [mailto:rick at vk6xlr.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 8:40 PM
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; TAPR APRS Mailing List <
aprssig at tapr.org>; AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New facility: Satellite Reporter V1.0 ( web based
satellite portal )

There already is a reporting system available:
http://www.amsat.org/status/

Tracking with Satellite info:
http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm

73,
Rick VK6XLR

On 9/08/2017 18:11, Andrew Rich wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am working on a little project here
>
> It is a raspberry Pi, that is connected to the APRS-IS and will
> eventually also take in user reports as well from a form
>
> If a satellite only APRS-IS comes about then the data will come from
> there ?
>
> It is on my static ip http://59.167.159.165/
>
> It is called ?Satellite Reporter?
>
> It is intended to provide a dashboard, stats in graphical format and also
data streams.
>
> Please let me know if you want any features added as this project grows.
>
> I see a user input screen and drop downs for satellites.
>
> I will make an iPhone and Samsung compatible version.
>
> The back end is MySQL and PERL and CGI
>
> I will add ISS for the time being, please check back often for updates.
>
> I think it best to use UTC times for the time being.
>
> Andrew VK4TEC
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


_______________________________________________
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AMSAT-NA.
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From nss at mwt.net  Wed Aug  9 12:51:44 2017
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 07:51:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW on Sats -Try PSAT?
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNLwKrdMGo9-7fLaHebFM0EKjS8re=KjEDty3CDbSk_JPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfNLwKrdMGo9-7fLaHebFM0EKjS8re=KjEDty3CDbSk_JPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2cacc25a-8dd6-62db-9a8d-b52db90d2258@mwt.net>

I wondered about this Bob, several times, but thought someone would get 
mad if I tried it.

But I do not see why it would not work.

I actually do not see why any mode that is listened to using USB would 
not work.

I may try it out in the next few days.

If it wasn't for the Doppler problem,, I'd even try the FT8, but dont 
see any way to keep the freq dead motionless on that one.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/9/2017 12:35 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> At the risk of inviting plenty of negative comments, but for the sake of
> experimentaion,  I wonder if someone mkght want to try to make some CW
> contacts on the PSAT PSK31 HF transponder.
>
> THe problem is if there is other 10m PSK31 activity, the terrestrial users
> would not like to see CW in the PSK31 band.  But if no one else was on, it
> wouldnt bother me if someone wanted to experiment with CW via the PSAT
> uplink.
>
> But if there is no one on PSK31, then the transponder wont come up...  SO
> eitehr one of the experimenters needs to key down a PSK31 signal so others
> could send the CW.  Or one person could try keying CW using their PSK31
> carrier and then key that so that the 31Hz auto-key-up would bring the
> transponder up.
>
> I hate to admit that I don't listen enough to know if this is a dumb idea
> or not.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I heard a couple of nice CW qsos on fo29 just now...they're out there, but
>> not a huge amount of activity. CW gets a bad rap because of a few
>> inconsiderate operators who run WAY too much power. The on/off nature of a
>> cw signal combined with more than a few watts output is very hard on the
>> satellites AGC system, and can make it difficult for other operators to use
>> the transponder. Many people use cw to compensate for poor receive
>> performance at their stations, "pumping" the birds receive AGC with high
>> power and making it generally miserable for all the other operators.
>>
>> That said, I've made at least one cw qso on fo29, and heard quite a few
>> others that weren't abusing the transponder. When the power is kept down
>> low (I would say maybe 3w or less, depending on the elevation of the bird
>> during the pass) it can work well. No chirp, no hitting the AGC hard, just
>> a good clean downlink signal.
>>
>> Take a listen around some evening passes, you might hear more than you'd
>> think!
>>
>> 73,
>> - Matthew kk4fem
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 22:46, mrtoburen7 <mrtoburen7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gentlemen,
>>> I'm pretty new to sats and very surprised there aren't any CW QSOs.
>> Why?  CW is much easier to track than SSB w Doppler.
>>> Marshall AA0FO
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>
> _______________________________________________
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Wed Aug  9 15:46:06 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:46:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-09 15:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <2eb1e7.26b50f06.46bc883e@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-09  15:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

International Summer Camp #3?? with children from Republic  of 
Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB
The ISS callsign is  presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI 
Contact was successful 2017-08-05 16:25 UTC
Congratulations to  Sergey RV3DR, this was his 100th school he has mentored!

YOTA,  England, direct via GB4YOTA 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS 
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact failed:  Tue 2017-08-08 18:38:37 UTC 82 deg
Contact was successful: 2017-08-08 20:14  UTC 31 deg (***)
Watch for Ham TV

Takaishi City Central Public  Hall, Takaishi City, Japan, direct via 8N3TA 
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be NA1SS 
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA  
Contact is a go for: Mon 2017-08-14 10:37:04 UTC 57 deg 

Fleet  Science Center, BE WISE Program, San Diego, CA, direct via KJ6KDZ 
The ISS  callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo  Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact is a go for: Sat 2017-08-19 16:44:41 UTC 32 deg  

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 123 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
Sergey RV3DR with 100  (***)

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-09 15:30 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1153. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1112. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-09 15:30 UTC.   
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From ka7fvv at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  9 17:44:32 2017
From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:44:32 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] sats to hear from Fairbanks
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNJBv0JCPJd8qBSXG+joQrL=J407fc8LAsbK639FeC7TnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01ba36b5-ea5f-89e5-3278-786b831f2f0c@coloradosatellite.com>
	<CALdCfNJBv0JCPJd8qBSXG+joQrL=J407fc8LAsbK639FeC7TnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49BB7235-45C1-49AF-BF75-8318EFDA05CA@yahoo.com>

Jim,
Another good one is always SO-50 downlink.  436.795 adjusting for doppler of course.  It is usually off on the descending passes coming over Alaska.  When I am on I will turn it on upon AOS in Spokane, WA.  My station is torn apart right now so hope to be back up and running by this weekend.

73, Scott, KA7FVV
President - KBARA  www.kbara.org
Co-Owner 443.525 System Fusion Repeater
ka7fvv.net


> On Aug 8, 2017, at 22:05, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> 
> The 435.350 MHz FM downoink on PSAT PSK31 is often on, though someone needs
> to be transmitting on 28.121 MHz with PSK31 in order for the transponder to
> come up.  But that is the terrestrrial PSK31 frequency so really all it
> needs is ANYONE to be on 10m PSK31 and it will be up.
> 
> BOb
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Jim White <jim at coloradosatellite.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We will be putting in a new UHF ground station in Fairbanks next week and
>> would appreciate any suggestions as to what sats to listen for when testing
>> the downlink capability.  435 - 437 or 450 downlinks.  They need to be
>> polar-ish, Fairbanks is 64.8N.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
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From dave at druidnetworks.com  Wed Aug  9 17:49:54 2017
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:49:54 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] KG5CCI Roving 8/12/2017 thru 8/22/2017
Message-ID: <CANq+eyUTOfxDHyPPOWKJj_O_ewNsNPMYsUNcyfhiqC3BegZcdg@mail.gmail.com>

Got some travel plans coming up the next few weeks, and people have
expressed interest, so here's the details:

8/12/2017 I'll be traveling to EM43 to operate some Meteor Scatter on 6m
for the Perseids, but will also operate Satellites from EM43 while there..
 afterwards I plan on scooting down to EM42 and EM41 to do some more Sat
passes before heading back to EM34 via whatever path I happen to feel like.

8/16 - 8/17  I'll be traveling from EM34 to EM38 on some business, but
should have time on the way up and back to do some passes. Watch twitter
closely, cause these will likely be little warning activation.

8/20 - 8/22 I'll be traveling from EM34 to EN21 for the Eclipse. As with
most eclipse chasers there's a very real possibility I may have to drive
from EN21 to wherever it's clear on the 21st...  so there's a chance I
might end up out in Western Nebraska. Once again, watch twitter, cause who
knows where I'll end up. On the 22nd I'll be heading back to EM34 from
wherever my final Eclipse destination takes me.

Good luck!

73, Dave, KG5CCI

From wao at vfr.net  Wed Aug  9 21:18:01 2017
From: wao at vfr.net (Joe Spier)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 14:18:01 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-221 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT-NA
 Elects Executive Vice President
Message-ID: <a3247e9a-a608-1de6-f37a-3400951890e5@vfr.net>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN
ANS-221.01

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* AMSAT-NA Elects Executive Vice President

SB WED @ AMSAT $ANS-221.01
ANS-221 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 221.01
 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE August 9, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-221.01


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AMSAT-NA Elects Executive Vice President


AMSAT-NA Vice President, Educational Relations, Joe Spier, K6WAO of
Reno, NV, has been elected by the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors as
Executive Vice President during a Board Meeting via a conference call
that took place on August 8, 2017. Joe's new duties will include
implementation of AMSAT-NA's Strategic Planning. He will continue in
his other duties as 2017 Space Symposium Chairman, AMSAT News Service
Co-Editor, ARISS-NA Education, and Educational Relations until new
personnel can be appointed or the task assigned is completed.

Under the AMSAT ByLaws, the position of Executive Vice President is
one of seven senior officer positions that are approved by the AMSAT
Board of Directors.

Included in the ByLaw stated duties, ?the Executive Vice President
shall act in the place of the President in the President's absence,
and shall have such other duties as the Board may determine.?
[Bylaws, Article II, Section 5B].

In addition, the Executive VP is assigned the responsibility of AMSAT
External Relations team leader and as acting director of any team
leader position that is not filled.

Joe is a Life Member of AMSAT-NA and has served in Educational
Relations during the past six years. He also has Life Memberships in
the ARRL, SARA (Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers) and the AFA
(Air Force Association). He holds an Extra Class license as well
Commercial licenses.

AMSAT-NA President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW said, ?I extend my
congratulations to Joe on his new position of leadership in AMSAT-NA.
As EVP, he will be working closely with me on a variety of matters
involving various AMSAT departments as we move forward on our
strategic planning process as well as day-to-day management of the
organization.  Joe?s dedication to the strategic planning process
will enhance the future of AMSAT-NA.?


[ANS thanks the AMSAT-NA BOD for the above information]


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/EX


From matthew at mrstevens.net  Wed Aug  9 23:04:09 2017
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 19:04:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] KG5CCI Roving 8/12/2017 thru 8/22/2017
In-Reply-To: <CANq+eyUTOfxDHyPPOWKJj_O_ewNsNPMYsUNcyfhiqC3BegZcdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANq+eyUTOfxDHyPPOWKJj_O_ewNsNPMYsUNcyfhiqC3BegZcdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63B27C3B-5F9E-493A-B43D-404515432611@mrstevens.net>

.....and if you miss Dave in Nebraska or just want to talk to somebody besides the notorious CCI, I'll also be up there for the eclipse in the Grand Island area. ;-)

 I'd like to pick up some new grids and a state for my /r totals, so if you need anything in the EN01/11/00/10 area let me know! I'll be on twitter.com/kk4fem

73,
- Matthew

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 13:49, David Swanson <dave at druidnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> Got some travel plans coming up the next few weeks, and people have
> expressed interest, so here's the details:
> 
> 8/12/2017 I'll be traveling to EM43 to operate some Meteor Scatter on 6m
> for the Perseids, but will also operate Satellites from EM43 while there..
> afterwards I plan on scooting down to EM42 and EM41 to do some more Sat
> passes before heading back to EM34 via whatever path I happen to feel like.
> 
> 8/16 - 8/17  I'll be traveling from EM34 to EM38 on some business, but
> should have time on the way up and back to do some passes. Watch twitter
> closely, cause these will likely be little warning activation.
> 
> 8/20 - 8/22 I'll be traveling from EM34 to EN21 for the Eclipse. As with
> most eclipse chasers there's a very real possibility I may have to drive
> from EN21 to wherever it's clear on the 21st...  so there's a chance I
> might end up out in Western Nebraska. Once again, watch twitter, cause who
> knows where I'll end up. On the 22nd I'll be heading back to EM34 from
> wherever my final Eclipse destination takes me.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 73, Dave, KG5CCI
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From kk5do at arrl.net  Wed Aug  9 23:26:22 2017
From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 18:26:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra - Read all about it - AMSAT Online Store
Message-ID: <f8791b28-ceab-0962-d585-eb2ff6d3d348@arrl.net>

Extra-Extra, Read all about it.....

You can now register for the Symposium, Saturday Evening Banquet and the 
Sunday morning Area Coordinators Breakfast ... all at the AMSAT Online 
Store. Shelves are stocked and there are plenty to go around. No one 
should miss out on this opportunity in Reno, Nevada.

We will be adding the special events for Sunday and Monday in the near 
future as soon as the are formalized and we can get a price.

73...bruce
AMSAT Online Store Stocker

-- 

Bruce Paige, KK5DO
                      
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
   
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
           
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 athttp://www.amsatnet.com  
Podcast athttp://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml  or iTunes
               
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org  

AMSAT on Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/amsat


From bryan at kl7cn.net  Wed Aug  9 23:43:12 2017
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:43:12 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra - Read all about it - AMSAT Online
	Store
In-Reply-To: <f8791b28-ceab-0962-d585-eb2ff6d3d348@arrl.net>
References: <f8791b28-ceab-0962-d585-eb2ff6d3d348@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <FFB137CD-8041-4B01-ACA6-1C4E4258F57F@kl7cn.net>

https://www.amsat.org/product-category/amsat-symposium/

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
Location: CM98, usually
E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net
Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 16:26, Bruce <kk5do at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Extra-Extra, Read all about it.....
> 
> You can now register for the Symposium, Saturday Evening Banquet and the Sunday morning Area Coordinators Breakfast ... all at the AMSAT Online Store. Shelves are stocked and there are plenty to go around. No one should miss out on this opportunity in Reno, Nevada.
> 
> We will be adding the special events for Sunday and Monday in the near future as soon as the are formalized and we can get a price.
> 
> 73...bruce
> AMSAT Online Store Stocker
> 
> -- 
> 
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>                     AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
>  ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>          Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
> Also live streaming MP3 athttp://www.amsatnet.com  Podcast athttp://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml  or iTunes
>              Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
> http://www.arrl.org  
> AMSAT on Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/amsat
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From skristof at etczone.com  Thu Aug 10 00:58:11 2017
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2017 20:58:11 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV via AO-85
Message-ID: <a251532a529a022e743ed07f9a6411da@etczone.com>

If you sent a SSTV image via AO-85 this evening about 2238 UTC, I just
want to let you know that someone (i.e. me) received it. Unfortunately,
it wasn't clear enough for me to identify the sender. I can see "CQ
AO-85 SSTV de SPACE COMMS" and I can see that it is a picture of
someone's face, but I can't make out a callsign. 

It is reasonable to assume that the lack of resolution in the image I
received is due to the minimal receiving set up on my end. 

I like Experimenter Wednesday. It gives me another radio challenge. 

Steve AI9IN

From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 01:08:46 2017
From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 21:08:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV via AO-85
In-Reply-To: <a251532a529a022e743ed07f9a6411da@etczone.com>
References: <a251532a529a022e743ed07f9a6411da@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CAOsf+NRd9Y9zwrBuun=mvbori84By0j7CmHTdfnnRLJ6uHOWhA@mail.gmail.com>

Very cool experiment !!!

On Aug 9, 2017 9:00 PM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> If you sent a SSTV image via AO-85 this evening about 2238 UTC, I just
> want to let you know that someone (i.e. me) received it. Unfortunately,
> it wasn't clear enough for me to identify the sender. I can see "CQ
> AO-85 SSTV de SPACE COMMS" and I can see that it is a picture of
> someone's face, but I can't make out a callsign.
>
> It is reasonable to assume that the lack of resolution in the image I
> received is due to the minimal receiving set up on my end.
>
> I like Experimenter Wednesday. It gives me another radio challenge.
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From rick at vk6xlr.net  Thu Aug 10 01:27:01 2017
From: rick at vk6xlr.net (Rick Kowalewski)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:27:01 +0800
Subject: [amsat-bb] New facility: Satellite Reporter V1.0 ( web based
 satellite portal )
In-Reply-To: <CAFvUaiokmL0kKUXX=_yC4r+j+0j61QEcRZ_qty=QYJ7w6-HXwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <011b01d310f7$d5d5c700$81815500$@internode.on.net>
	<833a53d4-26b2-55da-16e6-40c258df9567@vk6xlr.net>
	<013201d310ff$26608140$732183c0$@internode.on.net>
	<CAFvUairUiBgOHfNOsFWp=MvwQ+DDRf1VTN0ku-CxBKU-c+jfmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFvUaio_AWWtb-0uQBA9-rZJ8SjtqbHNts42e5VHVOgNfJfaxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFvUaiokmL0kKUXX=_yC4r+j+0j61QEcRZ_qty=QYJ7w6-HXwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52daa2be-72c6-c99a-0a8c-cd49278a9a6a@vk6xlr.net>

Exactly.  Many hams manually populate the AMSAT page every day.

Plenty of data at these sites too:
http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
http://www.satview.org

73,
Rick VK6XLR

On 9/08/2017 20:19, Peter Goodhall wrote:
> Bit confused by your comment, I can assure you the AMSAT Status page is
> populated by hams it's not automated.
>
> Peter
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 12:10, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>
> Thank you Rick
>
> This web site takes user reports by hand and does not draw from the world
> wide data stream of satellite ground stations.
>
> It relies only on user input
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 01:49:05 2017
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 21:49:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV via AO-85
In-Reply-To: <a251532a529a022e743ed07f9a6411da@etczone.com>
References: <a251532a529a022e743ed07f9a6411da@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO71NrOBhtYdemJr7PA0gPFpTQqBD5ce4to_2aThFSr=A@mail.gmail.com>

Steve that was my image. I made it at the last minute and didn't have
time to increase the size of my callsign, which is barely decipherable
even in the original image:

https://twitter.com/johnbrier/status/895460941646544896

Please send me your reception if you don't mind. Lots of people
received the images this evening and they are sharing them on Twitter,
Facbook, and even on Instagram. Pretty cool to get SSTV reports from a
satellite. This is a first for me and I agree this is a very cool
experiment.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

P.S. Space Comms is my YouTube channel ham radio space communications:

https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:58 PM,  <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:
> If you sent a SSTV image via AO-85 this evening about 2238 UTC, I just
> want to let you know that someone (i.e. me) received it. Unfortunately,
> it wasn't clear enough for me to identify the sender. I can see "CQ
> AO-85 SSTV de SPACE COMMS" and I can see that it is a picture of
> someone's face, but I can't make out a callsign.
>
> It is reasonable to assume that the lack of resolution in the image I
> received is due to the minimal receiving set up on my end.
>
> I like Experimenter Wednesday. It gives me another radio challenge.
>
> Steve AI9IN
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Aug 10 02:23:50 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:23:50 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Automating the AMSAT Status page for APRS satellites
Message-ID: <CALdCfN+jSjL+O4qYsvYMMCQkdHb5vixMGm1bOf1SA9H8GFKUHg@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > Exactly.  Many hams manually populate the AMSAT page every day.


>> This web site takes user reports by hand and does not draw
>> from the world wide data stream of satellite ground stations.

Yep, a great opportunity for someone to write code to check the ARISS.NET
and pcsat.findu.com downlink pages and check for last heard packet from
RS0ISS, from PSAT.  If it is from PSAT-1 then it is only beacons.  If it is
from PSAT itself, then the digipeater is on.

Though rather than randomly scarfing those pages, it might be more
efficient if maybe the FINDU.COM page originated the status report to the
AMSAT page every 2 hours.

http://www.amsat.org/status/

But on the otherhand the page now is all manual and so it not only reflects
the reported status it also shows the interest shown by the number of hams
that take the time to report it.

If PSAT and ISS DATA were automatically updated, then they would show solid
bars of reports, and no one would bother reporting, and we would not see if
anyone cared enough to update it?

Besides, Steve just lives it when I suggest things for him to do... ;-)

Bob, WB4APR

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 10 09:08:05 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:08:05 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Automating the AMSAT Status page for APRS satellites
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfN+jSjL+O4qYsvYMMCQkdHb5vixMGm1bOf1SA9H8GFKUHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfN+jSjL+O4qYsvYMMCQkdHb5vixMGm1bOf1SA9H8GFKUHg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028d01d311b8$2def79c0$89ce6d40$@internode.on.net>

http://59.167.159.165/



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Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017 12:24 PM
To: Amsat <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Cc: Steve Dimse <steve at dimse.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Automating the AMSAT Status page for APRS satellites

>
> > Exactly.  Many hams manually populate the AMSAT page every day.


>> This web site takes user reports by hand and does not draw from the 
>> world wide data stream of satellite ground stations.

Yep, a great opportunity for someone to write code to check the ARISS.NET
and pcsat.findu.com downlink pages and check for last heard packet from
RS0ISS, from PSAT.  If it is from PSAT-1 then it is only beacons.  If it is
from PSAT itself, then the digipeater is on.

Though rather than randomly scarfing those pages, it might be more efficient
if maybe the FINDU.COM page originated the status report to the AMSAT page
every 2 hours.

http://www.amsat.org/status/

But on the otherhand the page now is all manual and so it not only reflects
the reported status it also shows the interest shown by the number of hams
that take the time to report it.

If PSAT and ISS DATA were automatically updated, then they would show solid
bars of reports, and no one would bother reporting, and we would not see if
anyone cared enough to update it?

Besides, Steve just lives it when I suggest things for him to do... ;-)

Bob, WB4APR
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 10 09:08:05 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:08:05 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
Message-ID: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>

Guys 

 

I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets 

 

What are they from ?

 

1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]

> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017

 

1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]

> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017

 

Andrew 


From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 10 09:08:05 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:08:05 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Automating the AMSAT Status page for APRS satellites
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfN+jSjL+O4qYsvYMMCQkdHb5vixMGm1bOf1SA9H8GFKUHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALdCfN+jSjL+O4qYsvYMMCQkdHb5vixMGm1bOf1SA9H8GFKUHg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028e01d311b8$2e1be0f0$8a53a2d0$@internode.on.net>

Doing it now 

Andrew

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From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Robert
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Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017 12:24 PM
To: Amsat <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Cc: Steve Dimse <steve at dimse.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Automating the AMSAT Status page for APRS satellites

>
> > Exactly.  Many hams manually populate the AMSAT page every day.


>> This web site takes user reports by hand and does not draw from the 
>> world wide data stream of satellite ground stations.

Yep, a great opportunity for someone to write code to check the ARISS.NET
and pcsat.findu.com downlink pages and check for last heard packet from
RS0ISS, from PSAT.  If it is from PSAT-1 then it is only beacons.  If it is
from PSAT itself, then the digipeater is on.

Though rather than randomly scarfing those pages, it might be more efficient
if maybe the FINDU.COM page originated the status report to the AMSAT page
every 2 hours.

http://www.amsat.org/status/

But on the otherhand the page now is all manual and so it not only reflects
the reported status it also shows the interest shown by the number of hams
that take the time to report it.

If PSAT and ISS DATA were automatically updated, then they would show solid
bars of reports, and no one would bother reporting, and we would not see if
anyone cared enough to update it?

Besides, Steve just lives it when I suggest things for him to do... ;-)

Bob, WB4APR
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Aug 10 10:44:19 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:44:19 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOoH9V=6voB-fLpUN9zBVAaxUuOK1teb+pk011gbpSQ_ng@mail.gmail.com>

IO-86

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 05:12 Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Guys
>
>
>
> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
>
>
>
> What are they from ?
>
>
>
> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
>
> > -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>
>
>
> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
>
> > -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 10 11:08:17 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 21:08:17 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOoH9V=6voB-fLpUN9zBVAaxUuOK1teb+pk011gbpSQ_ng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
	<CABzOSOoH9V=6voB-fLpUN9zBVAaxUuOK1teb+pk011gbpSQ_ng@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Paul 

 

Will add it to my wall chart 

 

Cheers

 

 

From: Paul Stoetzer [mailto:n8hm at arrl.net] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017 8:44 PM
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; aprssig at tapr.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?

 

IO-86

 

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 05:12 Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net <mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net> > wrote:

Guys



I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets



What are they from ?



1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]

> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017



1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]

> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017



Andrew

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From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 11:49:02 2017
From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:49:02 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <99C223F4-0B57-4C90-A943-6A961452F437@yahoo.com>

That is APRS beacon from IO-86, the amateur payload on LAPAN/ORARI-A2 satellite.

The other mode is FM voice repeater.

73 de Yono - YD0NXX / N5SNN


Sent from my mobile device

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Guys 
> 
> 
> 
> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets 
> 
> 
> 
> What are they from ?
> 
> 
> 
> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
> 
>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
> 
> 
> 
> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
> 
>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
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From mm0kjg at googlemail.com  Thu Aug 10 18:49:19 2017
From: mm0kjg at googlemail.com (mm0kjg)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:49:19 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao-85 and 73 Uplink
In-Reply-To: <a104d0c6-9552-89b2-46f7-df1e12b9b293@gmail.com>
References: <a104d0c6-9552-89b2-46f7-df1e12b9b293@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dfcb3ad7-4725-3170-70cc-74d0e6224fa4@gmail.com>


	

	

	

	

Hello All,

Could somebody please tell me the corrected uplink frequencies for Ao-85
and 73 please.
Have read it  could be as much as 19Khz ?

Cheers Kev MM0KJG



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From johnki4ro at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 20:44:31 2017
From: johnki4ro at gmail.com (John KI4RO)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 13:44:31 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao-85 and 73 Uplink
Message-ID: <CA+-NL41VHr20r+UaWxjpXP8BAASn3BCZYSNM=j3xtqbVZfGEgA@mail.gmail.com>

If your rig can do it center on 435.172.  If not use 435.170 as your center
frequency.
Be sure to use a 67.0 hz pl in either case.

I know nothing about AO 73, sorry.

73
John KI4RO




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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 00:01:54 2017
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 20:01:54 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] =?utf-8?b?TWF5YWsg4oCYTGlnaHRob3VzZSBpbiB0aGUgU2t54oCZ?=
	=?utf-8?q?_Fails_to_Deploy_Solar_Reflector_=E2=80=93_Soyuz_?=
	=?utf-8?q?=E2=80=93_73_Satellites?=
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKP8X=9C+MpanUOZCkOGE1DOz1L5pnYYOLKMAHuKt7F0mQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKMwKP6zV20S5tiJkgVesiDmNSkO0mRow8RqZLAwR+Z-=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKNpda1Vc4NHqOu47eiX1RTYGTNgudQV+iu-+ft80LB2mQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMLnmaRCqo8OEhn=Mo5e-3nCHSyg=s+B=pML=TKXewXdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKPdGNUxVkP+ALsMzLGOkFNfC_rrFhscTUuUTnRyFgex9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKP8X=9C+MpanUOZCkOGE1DOz1L5pnYYOLKMAHuKt7F0mQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPr-1tywfCJxYT-VQ507z=3KiJF2fuF8S+di23U-hAQKA@mail.gmail.com>

Double fail:

"Per Mayak?s simple design, the project engineers did not include a radio
as the satellite could be programmed on the ground to autonomously execute
its critical tasks in orbit to complete the deployment of the solar
reflector. Later in the design stages it was realized that a radio would be
beneficial, however, no radio channel could be allocated to the satellite
this close to launch. A backup plan of using a series of LEDs on the
satellite to deliver basic telemetry in the form of a visual Morse Code
never came to fruition, leaving Mayak without any means of communicating
its status to the ground."

Also, LEDs? I guess there are telescopes that could see it and track it.

http://spaceflight101.com/soyuz-kanopus-v-ik/mayak-lighthouse-in-the-sky-fails-to-deploy-solar-reflector/

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 02:20:03 2017
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:20:03 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <437fb2e2-9ee8-6185-9a2e-bfe532499824@gmail.com>

So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their
Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) appears
to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  Presumably
the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?

My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any
mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on
the active list?

All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and
I'm too far North...  {sigh}

Greg  KO6TH


Andrew Rich wrote:
> Guys 
>
>  
>
> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets 
>
>  
>
> What are they from ?
>
>  
>
> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
>
>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>  
>
> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
>
>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>  
>
> Andrew 
>
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Fri Aug 11 02:30:33 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 22:30:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <437fb2e2-9ee8-6185-9a2e-bfe532499824@gmail.com>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
	<437fb2e2-9ee8-6185-9a2e-bfe532499824@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrMerkHZ3u-9oPsVYYRtoRp-yfidy=v3D08jpMvbWxmQw@mail.gmail.com>

Greg,

You're right that we should add the satellite to the AMSAT website. Given
that a large majority of our members and interested individuals live
outside it's coverage area, it has not be a priority.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:

> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their
> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) appears
> to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  Presumably
> the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?
>
> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any
> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on
> the active list?
>
> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and
> I'm too far North...  {sigh}
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Andrew Rich wrote:
> > Guys
> >
> >
> >
> > I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
> >
> >
> >
> > What are they from ?
> >
> >
> >
> > 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
> >
> >> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
> >
> >
> > 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
> >
> >> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Fri Aug 11 02:31:06 2017
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 22:31:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <437fb2e2-9ee8-6185-9a2e-bfe532499824@gmail.com>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
	<437fb2e2-9ee8-6185-9a2e-bfe532499824@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <232E0D70-8F88-4F69-96E0-1616584BB327@mrstevens.net>

Basically the only regularly-active ops who can really work IO-86 from the US are myself and KO4MA. I've been on a few 1-3? passes when the repeater happened to be active while southern Florida had footprint. It has a very loud 5w downlink, and is easy to work with an HT at that elevation. I suppose it doesn't make much sense to include it in the comms satellite lists on the Amsat site, since its virtually not usable from the US however.

It definitely hasn't died, and is regularly active over Indonesia and Brazil, on a published schedule.

73,

- Matthew kk4fem

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 22:20, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their
> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) appears
> to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  Presumably
> the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?
> 
> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any
> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on
> the active list?
> 
> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and
> I'm too far North...  {sigh}
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> 
> Andrew Rich wrote:
>> Guys 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What are they from ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
>> 
>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>> 
>> 
>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
>> 
>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug 11 04:55:01 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 14:55:01 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
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Paul

How can one live outside the coverage zone of a satellite ? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2017, at 12:30 pm, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Greg,
> 
> You're right that we should add the satellite to the AMSAT website. Given
> that a large majority of our members and interested individuals live
> outside it's coverage area, it has not be a priority.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their
>> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) appears
>> to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  Presumably
>> the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?
>> 
>> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any
>> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on
>> the active list?
>> 
>> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and
>> I'm too far North...  {sigh}
>> 
>> Greg  KO6TH
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>> Guys
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What are they from ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
>>> 
>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
>>> 
>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
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From devin at thecabal.org  Fri Aug 11 06:45:07 2017
From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 06:45:07 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
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Orbital inclination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_inclination


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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?

Paul

How can one live outside the coverage zone of a satellite ? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2017, at 12:30 pm, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Greg,
> 
> You're right that we should add the satellite to the AMSAT website. 
> Given that a large majority of our members and interested individuals 
> live outside it's coverage area, it has not be a priority.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their 
>> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) 
>> appears to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  
>> Presumably the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?
>> 
>> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any 
>> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on 
>> the active list?
>> 
>> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, 
>> and I'm too far North...  {sigh}
>> 
>> Greg  KO6TH
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>> Guys
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What are they from ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] 
>>> [+++]
>>> 
>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] 
>>> [+++]
>>> 
>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 11 10:20:04 2017
From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:20:04 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
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IO-86 is in a good health and fully functional (never die) and it is approaching the 2 anniversary next month.

APRS is a full digipeater, please use YBSAT as the PATH.

Due to power management, the APRS and voice payload are only activated once a day, on separate pass.
Additional voice activation on weekends.

73 de Yono - YD0NXX / N5SNN


Sent from my mobile device

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their
> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) appears
> to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  Presumably
> the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?
> 
> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any
> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on
> the active list?
> 
> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and
> I'm too far North...  {sigh}
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> 
> Andrew Rich wrote:
>> Guys 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What are they from ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
>> 
>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>> 
>> 
>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
>> 
>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 11 10:23:57 2017
From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:23:57 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
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IO-86 is very popular close to the equator , such as India, and Thailand, with majority from Indonesia and Malaysia, and Brazil (special request for voice activation).

73 de Yono - YD0NXX

Sent from my mobile device

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Greg,
> 
> You're right that we should add the satellite to the AMSAT website. Given
> that a large majority of our members and interested individuals live
> outside it's coverage area, it has not be a priority.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their
>> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) appears
>> to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  Presumably
>> the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?
>> 
>> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any
>> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on
>> the active list?
>> 
>> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and
>> I'm too far North...  {sigh}
>> 
>> Greg  KO6TH
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>> Guys
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What are they from ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
>>> 
>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
>>> 
>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug 11 10:52:47 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 20:52:47 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
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How did I pick it up in Brisbane Australia ? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2017, at 8:23 pm, Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> IO-86 is very popular close to the equator , such as India, and Thailand, with majority from Indonesia and Malaysia, and Brazil (special request for voice activation).
> 
> 73 de Yono - YD0NXX
> 
> Sent from my mobile device
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Greg,
>> 
>> You're right that we should add the satellite to the AMSAT website. Given
>> that a large majority of our members and interested individuals live
>> outside it's coverage area, it has not be a priority.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Paul, N8HM
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their
>>> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) appears
>>> to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  Presumably
>>> the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?
>>> 
>>> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any
>>> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on
>>> the active list?
>>> 
>>> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and
>>> I'm too far North...  {sigh}
>>> 
>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>> Guys
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What are they from ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
>>>> 
>>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
>>>> 
>>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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>> _______________________________________________
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From joevk5ei at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 11:12:45 2017
From: joevk5ei at gmail.com (Joe Pereira)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 20:42:45 +0930
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
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	<CABzOSOrMerkHZ3u-9oPsVYYRtoRp-yfidy=v3D08jpMvbWxmQw@mail.gmail.com>
	<3546E047-CE38-46D2-A68D-8F5C833E44D3@yahoo.com>
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you are in the coverage area

https://sat.fg8oj.com/io-86

73

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
wrote:

> How did I pick it up in Brisbane Australia ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 11 Aug 2017, at 8:23 pm, Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> > IO-86 is very popular close to the equator , such as India, and
> Thailand, with majority from Indonesia and Malaysia, and Brazil (special
> request for voice activation).
> >
> > 73 de Yono - YD0NXX
> >
> > Sent from my mobile device
> >
> >> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Greg,
> >>
> >> You're right that we should add the satellite to the AMSAT website.
> Given
> >> that a large majority of our members and interested individuals live
> >> outside it's coverage area, it has not be a priority.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Paul, N8HM
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their
> >>> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/)
> appears
> >>> to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.
> Presumably
> >>> the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.
> Yes?
> >>>
> >>> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any
> >>> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on
> >>> the active list?
> >>>
> >>> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and
> >>> I'm too far North...  {sigh}
> >>>
> >>> Greg  KO6TH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andrew Rich wrote:
> >>>> Guys
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What are they from ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
> >>>>
> >>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
> >>>>
> >>>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>> Opinions expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> >>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> program!
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> >>>
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> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >>> expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
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From jeff_griffin at comcast.net  Fri Aug 11 11:23:15 2017
From: jeff_griffin at comcast.net (Jeff Griffin)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 07:23:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <232E0D70-8F88-4F69-96E0-1616584BB327@mrstevens.net>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>	<437fb2e2-9ee8-6185-9a2e-bfe532499824@gmail.com>
	<232E0D70-8F88-4F69-96E0-1616584BB327@mrstevens.net>
Message-ID: <012801d31294$3a821620$af864260$@net>

Hi Matt. I'll be heading to my Florida home in a few days and would like to try and work you on IO-86. Only problem is when's the last time the transponder was on? I forgot about this one...

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Stevens
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 10:31 PM
To: Greg D
Cc: AMSAT
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] What satellite is this ?

Basically the only regularly-active ops who can really work IO-86 from the US are myself and KO4MA. I've been on a few 1-3? passes when the repeater happened to be active while southern Florida had footprint. It has a very loud 5w downlink, and is easy to work with an HT at that elevation. I suppose it doesn't make much sense to include it in the comms satellite lists on the Amsat site, since its virtually not usable from the US however.

It definitely hasn't died, and is regularly active over Indonesia and Brazil, on a published schedule.

73,

- Matthew kk4fem

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 22:20, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, interesting discovery...  IO-86 / LAPAN A2, according to their 
> Facebook site (https://www.facebook.com/groups/831872960241607/) 
> appears to be in APRS mode for a few hours per day on a daily basis.  
> Presumably the satellite responds to an uplink on the same frequency 145.825.  Yes?
> 
> My question...  I searched the Amsat website, and I don't see any 
> mention of the bird.  Did it die (or was disabled) and is now back on 
> the active list?
> 
> All that said, the satellite appears to be in an equatorial orbit, and 
> I'm too far North...  {sigh}
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> 
> Andrew Rich wrote:
>> Guys
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What are they from ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] 
>> [+++]
>> 
>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>> 
>> 
>> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] 
>> [+++]
>> 
>>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew


From ppauly at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 12:02:05 2017
From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 08:02:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
Message-ID: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>

I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a possible
issue with it.

I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with my
handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with a 50E
slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...

Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter, despite
turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed the RF
power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light flashes on
the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can also hear
distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and not USB)
but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I haven't
been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug. Should I
be concerned about the lack of power?

Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on USB/LSB.

Thanks

Peter
W9KG

From ppauly at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 12:19:42 2017
From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 08:19:42 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <CAN8zKtR9JA=iJEepO2JVvYM3z=6Hy-1VLAKNcyW2HK0MXEa28g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN8zKtR9JA=iJEepO2JVvYM3z=6Hy-1VLAKNcyW2HK0MXEa28g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKXfWbQcNVVDyJU6UcXsEuU=tBJD-B+zZAD_i4hZHw=bjb7CPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, and I know the mic works because I can hear it on my handheld when in
FM mode.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
wrote:

> Are you using the stock mic?
>
>
> - Matthew
> ? nj4y?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a possible
>> issue with it.
>>
>> I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with my
>> handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with a 50E
>> slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
>> indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...
>>
>> Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter, despite
>> turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed the RF
>> power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light flashes on
>> the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can also hear
>> distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and not USB)
>> but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I haven't
>> been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug. Should
>> I
>> be concerned about the lack of power?
>>
>> Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on USB/LSB.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter
>> W9KG
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug 11 12:23:36 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:23:36 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>

Peter are you speaking loudly 

The energy in an fm envelope is way larger than a side band transmission

The fact that your reaching an alc level seems to indicate the radio is doing its job

Pity u don't have USB rx

Do you have a software defined radios ? 

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:02 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a possible
> issue with it.
> 
> I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with my
> handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with a 50E
> slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
> indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...
> 
> Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter, despite
> turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed the RF
> power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light flashes on
> the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can also hear
> distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and not USB)
> but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I haven't
> been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug. Should I
> be concerned about the lack of power?
> 
> Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on USB/LSB.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
> W9KG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From ppauly at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 12:28:58 2017
From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 08:28:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAKXfWbS9Lt1b4mhGJu+YGGFMFgpd8727FTg=aA8shgfB-jmpNQ@mail.gmail.com>

I do have a little USB SDR. I plan hook that up tonight to see if I can see
an indication of signal. I don't want to furiously try to contact someone
via satellite and find out I'm not putting out any power.

I've never owned this rig until a couple days ago so there's always a
possibility I'm doing something wrong.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
wrote:

> Peter are you speaking loudly
>
> The energy in an fm envelope is way larger than a side band transmission
>
> The fact that your reaching an alc level seems to indicate the radio is
> doing its job
>
> Pity u don't have USB rx
>
> Do you have a software defined radios ?
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:02 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a
> possible
> > issue with it.
> >
> > I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with my
> > handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with a 50E
> > slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
> > indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...
> >
> > Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter, despite
> > turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed the RF
> > power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light flashes
> on
> > the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can also hear
> > distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and not USB)
> > but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I haven't
> > been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug.
> Should I
> > be concerned about the lack of power?
> >
> > Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on USB/LSB.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Peter
> > W9KG
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Fri Aug 11 13:14:07 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 23:14:07 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <CAKXfWbS9Lt1b4mhGJu+YGGFMFgpd8727FTg=aA8shgfB-jmpNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>
	<CAKXfWbS9Lt1b4mhGJu+YGGFMFgpd8727FTg=aA8shgfB-jmpNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02CAFFA5-7784-4C5A-9E73-80449CA50B3B@internode.on.net>

I talked my test equipment mate

You would have to whistle fairly loudly to get a swing on the bird

Andrew 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:28 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I do have a little USB SDR. I plan hook that up tonight to see if I can see an indication of signal. I don't want to furiously try to contact someone via satellite and find out I'm not putting out any power. 
> 
> I've never owned this rig until a couple days ago so there's always a possibility I'm doing something wrong. 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> Peter are you speaking loudly
>> 
>> The energy in an fm envelope is way larger than a side band transmission
>> 
>> The fact that your reaching an alc level seems to indicate the radio is doing its job
>> 
>> Pity u don't have USB rx
>> 
>> Do you have a software defined radios ?
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:02 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a possible
>> > issue with it.
>> >
>> > I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with my
>> > handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with a 50E
>> > slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
>> > indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...
>> >
>> > Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter, despite
>> > turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed the RF
>> > power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light flashes on
>> > the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can also hear
>> > distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and not USB)
>> > but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I haven't
>> > been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug. Should I
>> > be concerned about the lack of power?
>> >
>> > Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on USB/LSB.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Peter
>> > W9KG
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> 

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Aug 11 13:26:44 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 09:26:44 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <322ab33c-c40c-dd87-6558-087a90806e6d@opentrac.org>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
	<3bfd63f7-81e5-2962-3173-1bd1fcbfe335@exemail.com.au>
	<322ab33c-c40c-dd87-6558-087a90806e6d@opentrac.org>
Message-ID: <7641f9a523a25952b7c6a6a79285d9c7@mail.gmail.com>

Scott,

What kind of digipeater is it?  We need to know how to parse the digi path
to pull it out as a satellite digipeated packet.



What aliases does it support?  Only YOBX-1 as a path? or does it also
support APRSAT and ARISS?



Does it do callsign substitution or insertion?

IE, when it digipeates on an alias does it do substitution like this:
YBOX-1*,

Or does it do substitution like this: YBOX-1,APRSAT*?



Then Steve can add a parser for it to show up on pcsat.findu.com

Bob



*From:* aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott
Miller
*Sent:* Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:01 PM
*To:* aprssig at tapr.org
*Subject:* Re: [aprssig] What satellite is this ?



Oh hey, that's one of mine!  LAPAN-A2/ORARI is carrying a Tracker2 as a
sub-payload.

Scott
N1VG

On 8/10/2017 3:28 PM, vk2tv wrote:

Andrew,

It really isn't rocket science to put "Indonesia YB0X" into Google and
arrive at the answer.

This was the first hit .... https://aprs.link/app/aprs/stations/basic-YB0X-1

Ray vk2tv



On 10/08/17 19:08, Andrew Rich wrote:

Guys



I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets



What are they from ?



1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]

> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017



1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]

> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017



Andrew




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From scott at opentrac.org  Fri Aug 11 14:17:07 2017
From: scott at opentrac.org (Scott Miller)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 07:17:07 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <7641f9a523a25952b7c6a6a79285d9c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
	<3bfd63f7-81e5-2962-3173-1bd1fcbfe335@exemail.com.au>
	<322ab33c-c40c-dd87-6558-087a90806e6d@opentrac.org>
	<7641f9a523a25952b7c6a6a79285d9c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f71b449b-fd1f-50b9-1524-91d9eb8f0d2d@opentrac.org>

It's a Tracker2, specifically one of the OT2m boards using an MX614 
modem if I remember right.  I have no idea how it's presently 
configured, but it's capable of using several aliases and of callsign 
substitution.  I really haven't heard much about it since I shipped the 
hardware years ago.

Scott

On 8/11/2017 6:26 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> What kind of digipeater is it?  We need to know how to parse the digi 
> path to pull it out as a satellite digipeated packet.
>
> What aliases does it support?  Only YOBX-1 as a path? or does it also 
> support APRSAT and ARISS?
>
> Does it do callsign substitution or insertion?
>
> IE, when it digipeates on an alias does it do substitution like this: 
> YBOX-1*,
>
> Or does it do substitution like this: YBOX-1,APRSAT*?
>
> Then Steve can add a parser for it to show up on pcsat.findu.com 
> <http://pcsat.findu.com>
>
> Bob
>
> *From:*aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org 
> <mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org>] *On Behalf Of *Scott Miller
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:01 PM
> *To:* aprssig at tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at tapr.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [aprssig] What satellite is this ?
>
> Oh hey, that's one of mine!  LAPAN-A2/ORARI is carrying a Tracker2 as 
> a sub-payload.
>
> Scott
> N1VG
>
> On 8/10/2017 3:28 PM, vk2tv wrote:
>
>     Andrew,
>
>     It really isn't rocket science to put "Indonesia YB0X" into Google
>     and arrive at the answer.
>
>     This was the first hit ....
>     https://aprs.link/app/aprs/stations/basic-YB0X-1
>
>     Ray vk2tv
>
>     On 10/08/17 19:08, Andrew Rich wrote:
>
>         Guys
>
>         I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
>
>         What are they from ?
>
>         1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65>
>         [11:32:31R] [+++]
>
>         > -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>
>         1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65>
>         [11:36:11R] [+++]
>
>         > -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
>
>         Andrew
>
>
>
>
>         _______________________________________________
>
>         aprssig mailing list
>
>         aprssig at tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at tapr.org>
>
>         http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>
>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>
>     aprssig mailing list
>
>     aprssig at tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at tapr.org>
>
>     http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>


From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 11 15:19:44 2017
From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:19:44 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] What satellite is this ?
In-Reply-To: <7641f9a523a25952b7c6a6a79285d9c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <028801d311b8$2dbe57a0$893b06e0$@internode.on.net>
	<3bfd63f7-81e5-2962-3173-1bd1fcbfe335@exemail.com.au>
	<322ab33c-c40c-dd87-6558-087a90806e6d@opentrac.org>
	<7641f9a523a25952b7c6a6a79285d9c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A5F75BE9-917C-4707-BC71-A9CE9476796F@yahoo.com>

Bob ,

The callsign: YB0X-1
Alias: YBSAT
Callsign substitution on alias
The hardware is Tracker2

I believe I emailed you in 2011 when the payload was complete and waiting for launch opportunity.

Note: I can add APRSAT as another alias.

73 de Yono - YD0NXX / N5SNN


Sent from my mobile device

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> What kind of digipeater is it?  We need to know how to parse the digi path
> to pull it out as a satellite digipeated packet.
> 
> 
> 
> What aliases does it support?  Only YOBX-1 as a path? or does it also
> support APRSAT and ARISS?
> 
> 
> 
> Does it do callsign substitution or insertion?
> 
> IE, when it digipeates on an alias does it do substitution like this:
> YBOX-1*,
> 
> Or does it do substitution like this: YBOX-1,APRSAT*?
> 
> 
> 
> Then Steve can add a parser for it to show up on pcsat.findu.com
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott
> Miller
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:01 PM
> *To:* aprssig at tapr.org
> *Subject:* Re: [aprssig] What satellite is this ?
> 
> 
> 
> Oh hey, that's one of mine!  LAPAN-A2/ORARI is carrying a Tracker2 as a
> sub-payload.
> 
> Scott
> N1VG
> 
> On 8/10/2017 3:28 PM, vk2tv wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> It really isn't rocket science to put "Indonesia YB0X" into Google and
> arrive at the answer.
> 
> This was the first hit .... https://aprs.link/app/aprs/stations/basic-YB0X-1
> 
> Ray vk2tv
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/08/17 19:08, Andrew Rich wrote:
> 
> Guys
> 
> 
> 
> I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets
> 
> 
> 
> What are they from ?
> 
> 
> 
> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:32:31R] [+++]
> 
>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
> 
> 
> 
> 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE <UI R Pid=F0 Len=65> [11:36:11R] [+++]
> 
>> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Fri Aug 11 16:31:05 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 12:31:05 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-11 16:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <3197c0.2c90565c.46bf35c9@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-11  16:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Takaishi City Central Public Hall, Takaishi City, Japan,  direct via 8N3TA 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The  scheduled astronaut is Jack Fischer K2FSH (***)
Contact is a go for: Mon  2017-08-14 10:37:04 UTC 57 deg 

Fleet Science Center, BE WISE  Program, San Diego, CA, direct via KJ6KDZ 
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA  
Contact is a go for: Sat 2017-08-19 16:44:41 UTC 32 deg  

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 123 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
Sergey RV3DR with 100  (***)

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-11 16:30 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1153. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1112. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-09 15:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From dave at druidnetworks.com  Fri Aug 11 16:31:22 2017
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 11:31:22 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] KG5CCI Roving 8/12/2017 thru 8/22/2017
In-Reply-To: <CANq+eyUTOfxDHyPPOWKJj_O_ewNsNPMYsUNcyfhiqC3BegZcdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANq+eyUTOfxDHyPPOWKJj_O_ewNsNPMYsUNcyfhiqC3BegZcdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANq+eyU6_qf+bSYwKFYUZBj1egJqgqCZj4rYxwBtE1W8rVMfaA@mail.gmail.com>

Amending this weekend's plan somewhat - I'm going to focus on EM43 for 6m
Scatter, and activating Mississippi on Satellites. Due to complications
with home remote equipment I won't be able to do the things I want to do
while in EM41, so I'll postpone that portion of the trip until a later
time. Everything else still on schedule.

73!

Dave, KG5CCI

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:49 PM, David Swanson <dave at druidnetworks.com>
wrote:

> Got some travel plans coming up the next few weeks, and people have
> expressed interest, so here's the details:
>
> 8/12/2017 I'll be traveling to EM43 to operate some Meteor Scatter on 6m
> for the Perseids, but will also operate Satellites from EM43 while there..
>  afterwards I plan on scooting down to EM42 and EM41 to do some more Sat
> passes before heading back to EM34 via whatever path I happen to feel like.
>
> 8/16 - 8/17  I'll be traveling from EM34 to EM38 on some business, but
> should have time on the way up and back to do some passes. Watch twitter
> closely, cause these will likely be little warning activation.
>
> 8/20 - 8/22 I'll be traveling from EM34 to EN21 for the Eclipse. As with
> most eclipse chasers there's a very real possibility I may have to drive
> from EN21 to wherever it's clear on the 21st...  so there's a chance I
> might end up out in Western Nebraska. Once again, watch twitter, cause who
> knows where I'll end up. On the 22nd I'll be heading back to EM34 from
> wherever my final Eclipse destination takes me.
>
> Good luck!
>
> 73, Dave, KG5CCI
>

From kc5qbc at swbell.net  Fri Aug 11 18:19:46 2017
From: kc5qbc at swbell.net (Floyd Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:19:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <02CAFFA5-7784-4C5A-9E73-80449CA50B3B@internode.on.net>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>
	<CAKXfWbS9Lt1b4mhGJu+YGGFMFgpd8727FTg=aA8shgfB-jmpNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<02CAFFA5-7784-4C5A-9E73-80449CA50B3B@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1144307459.27437.1502475586852@mail.yahoo.com>

Try AM mode and the meter should register or get another meter that can measure ssb
 

    On Friday, August 11, 2017 8:15 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
 

 I talked my test equipment mate

You would have to whistle fairly loudly to get a swing on the bird

Andrew 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:28 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I do have a little USB SDR. I plan hook that up tonight to see if I can see an indication of signal. I don't want to furiously try to contact someone via satellite and find out I'm not putting out any power. 
> 
> I've never owned this rig until a couple days ago so there's always a possibility I'm doing something wrong. 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> Peter are you speaking loudly
>> 
>> The energy in an fm envelope is way larger than a side band transmission
>> 
>> The fact that your reaching an alc level seems to indicate the radio is doing its job
>> 
>> Pity u don't have USB rx
>> 
>> Do you have a software defined radios ?
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:02 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a possible
>> > issue with it.
>> >
>> > I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with my
>> > handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with a 50E
>> > slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
>> > indication of power output on the meter.? So far so good...
>> >
>> > Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter, despite
>> > turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed the RF
>> > power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light flashes on
>> > the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can also hear
>> > distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and not USB)
>> > but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.? I haven't
>> > been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug. Should I
>> > be concerned about the lack of power?
>> >
>> > Summary:? Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on USB/LSB.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Peter
>> > W9KG
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Fri Aug 11 19:45:49 2017
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 14:45:49 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <1144307459.27437.1502475586852@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>
	<CAKXfWbS9Lt1b4mhGJu+YGGFMFgpd8727FTg=aA8shgfB-jmpNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<02CAFFA5-7784-4C5A-9E73-80449CA50B3B@internode.on.net>
	<1144307459.27437.1502475586852@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F2A7D371-251B-4881-A2F9-DCDED8C74208@pobox.com>

On August 11, 2017 1:19:46 PM CDT, Floyd Rodgers <kc5qbc at swbell.net> wrote:
>Try AM mode and the meter should register or get another meter that can
>measure ssb
> 
>
>On Friday, August 11, 2017 8:15 AM, Andrew Rich
><vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
>
> I talked my test equipment mate
>
>You would have to whistle fairly loudly to get a swing on the bird
>
>Andrew 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:28 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I do have a little USB SDR. I plan hook that up tonight to see if I
>can see an indication of signal. I don't want to furiously try to
>contact someone via satellite and find out I'm not putting out any
>power. 
>> 
>> I've never owned this rig until a couple days ago so there's always a
>possibility I'm doing something wrong. 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Rich
><vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>>> Peter are you speaking loudly
>>> 
>>> The energy in an fm envelope is way larger than a side band
>transmission
>>> 
>>> The fact that your reaching an alc level seems to indicate the radio
>is doing its job
>>> 
>>> Pity u don't have USB rx
>>> 
>>> Do you have a software defined radios ?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:02 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a
>possible
>>> > issue with it.
>>> >
>>> > I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with
>my
>>> > handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with
>a 50E
>>> > slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
>>> > indication of power output on the meter.? So far so good...
>>> >
>>> > Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter,
>despite
>>> > turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed
>the RF
>>> > power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light
>flashes on
>>> > the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can
>also hear
>>> > distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and
>not USB)
>>> > but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.? I
>haven't
>>> > been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug.
>Should I
>>> > be concerned about the lack of power?
>>> >
>>> > Summary:? Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on
>USB/LSB.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Peter
>>> > W9KG
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>available
>>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
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>program!
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>> 
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If your rig has a RTTY mode, switch to that and key down. You should get a full power tone with no actual data modulating it.

73,

--- Zach
N0ZGO
--- Zach

From ppauly at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 00:08:06 2017
From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 20:08:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <F2A7D371-251B-4881-A2F9-DCDED8C74208@pobox.com>
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	<3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>
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SDR Dongle says I'm getting out.  And if I whistle, I can deflect the Bird
meter. Thanks everyone for your help. I was worrying for nothing.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:

> On August 11, 2017 1:19:46 PM CDT, Floyd Rodgers <kc5qbc at swbell.net>
> wrote:
> >Try AM mode and the meter should register or get another meter that can
> >measure ssb
> >
> >
> >On Friday, August 11, 2017 8:15 AM, Andrew Rich
> ><vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I talked my test equipment mate
> >
> >You would have to whistle fairly loudly to get a swing on the bird
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:28 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I do have a little USB SDR. I plan hook that up tonight to see if I
> >can see an indication of signal. I don't want to furiously try to
> >contact someone via satellite and find out I'm not putting out any
> >power.
> >>
> >> I've never owned this rig until a couple days ago so there's always a
> >possibility I'm doing something wrong.
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Rich
> ><vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> >>> Peter are you speaking loudly
> >>>
> >>> The energy in an fm envelope is way larger than a side band
> >transmission
> >>>
> >>> The fact that your reaching an alc level seems to indicate the radio
> >is doing its job
> >>>
> >>> Pity u don't have USB rx
> >>>
> >>> Do you have a software defined radios ?
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> > On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:02 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a
> >possible
> >>> > issue with it.
> >>> >
> >>> > I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with
> >my
> >>> > handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with
> >a 50E
> >>> > slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
> >>> > indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...
> >>> >
> >>> > Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter,
> >despite
> >>> > turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed
> >the RF
> >>> > power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light
> >flashes on
> >>> > the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can
> >also hear
> >>> > distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and
> >not USB)
> >>> > but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I
> >haven't
> >>> > been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug.
> >Should I
> >>> > be concerned about the lack of power?
> >>> >
> >>> > Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on
> >USB/LSB.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> >
> >>> > Peter
> >>> > W9KG
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> >available
> >>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> >views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >program!
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> >>>
> >>
> >_______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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> If your rig has a RTTY mode, switch to that and key down. You should get a
> full power tone with no actual data modulating it.
>
> 73,
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> --- Zach
> _______________________________________________
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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 04:27:59 2017
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 23:27:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/P Northern Maine Grid Expedition II
Message-ID: <CAPovOweemsmM08xdCYPeQ7h-zKc31GQp5dWkQ9VGSX1kPKa4cg@mail.gmail.com>

I will depart for a satellite grid expedtion to northern Maine on
Friday, August 18. The trip will conclude the morning of August 21.
I'll roughly follow the same path I used on a similar expedition
January 2015.

Planned grids will be: FN54-57 and FN64-67

Due to the short duration of this trip, my satellite pass selection
will be dynamic. I will probably not work many passes from each unique
grid. I'll do my best to work from grid boundaries on passes with wide
coverage.

Monitor my Twitter feed @w5pfg for updates during the trip.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sat Aug 12 04:46:43 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 14:46:43 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <CAKXfWbTEBRysXvdsesGjEtfV8W-fua+3vwGZvwPrL0-Jdrv8rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>
	<CAKXfWbS9Lt1b4mhGJu+YGGFMFgpd8727FTg=aA8shgfB-jmpNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<02CAFFA5-7784-4C5A-9E73-80449CA50B3B@internode.on.net>
	<1144307459.27437.1502475586852@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<CAKXfWbTEBRysXvdsesGjEtfV8W-fua+3vwGZvwPrL0-Jdrv8rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92A59C89-3545-4F4E-8A54-8496762D1703@internode.on.net>

Average power meter vs peak power meter 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Aug 2017, at 10:08 am, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> SDR Dongle says I'm getting out.  And if I whistle, I can deflect the Bird
> meter. Thanks everyone for your help. I was worrying for nothing.
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On August 11, 2017 1:19:46 PM CDT, Floyd Rodgers <kc5qbc at swbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Try AM mode and the meter should register or get another meter that can
>>> measure ssb
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, August 11, 2017 8:15 AM, Andrew Rich
>>> <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I talked my test equipment mate
>>> 
>>> You would have to whistle fairly loudly to get a swing on the bird
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:28 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I do have a little USB SDR. I plan hook that up tonight to see if I
>>> can see an indication of signal. I don't want to furiously try to
>>> contact someone via satellite and find out I'm not putting out any
>>> power.
>>>> 
>>>> I've never owned this rig until a couple days ago so there's always a
>>> possibility I'm doing something wrong.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Rich
>>> <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>>>>> Peter are you speaking loudly
>>>>> 
>>>>> The energy in an fm envelope is way larger than a side band
>>> transmission
>>>>> 
>>>>> The fact that your reaching an alc level seems to indicate the radio
>>> is doing its job
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pity u don't have USB rx
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you have a software defined radios ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:02 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a
>>> possible
>>>>>> issue with it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with
>>> my
>>>>>> handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with
>>> a 50E
>>>>>> slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
>>>>>> indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter,
>>> despite
>>>>>> turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed
>>> the RF
>>>>>> power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light
>>> flashes on
>>>>>> the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can
>>> also hear
>>>>>> distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and
>>> not USB)
>>>>>> but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I
>>> haven't
>>>>>> been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug.
>>> Should I
>>>>>> be concerned about the lack of power?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on
>>> USB/LSB.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> W9KG
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings:
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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>> 
>> If your rig has a RTTY mode, switch to that and key down. You should get a
>> full power tone with no actual data modulating it.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
>> --- Zach
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sat Aug 12 06:47:38 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 16:47:38 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Raspberry Pi sat ground station
Message-ID: <F1158561-919E-4CE7-B87D-EC69919BED05@internode.on.net>

Does anyone have a raspberry Pi setup with

Software defined radio doppler corrected
Satellite tracking
Antenna rotator control 

Andrew 

Sent from my iPhone

From mikesprenger at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 13:47:43 2017
From: mikesprenger at gmail.com (Mike Sprenger)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:47:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <92A59C89-3545-4F4E-8A54-8496762D1703@internode.on.net>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<3378FE7F-A90B-439B-9FE3-B3A173E23A2E@internode.on.net>
	<CAKXfWbS9Lt1b4mhGJu+YGGFMFgpd8727FTg=aA8shgfB-jmpNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<02CAFFA5-7784-4C5A-9E73-80449CA50B3B@internode.on.net>
	<1144307459.27437.1502475586852@mail.yahoo.com>
	<F2A7D371-251B-4881-A2F9-DCDED8C74208@pobox.com>
	<CAKXfWbTEBRysXvdsesGjEtfV8W-fua+3vwGZvwPrL0-Jdrv8rg@mail.gmail.com>
	<92A59C89-3545-4F4E-8A54-8496762D1703@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAB4zG_LtNO7Fyr6D-DieS_t++bWVuLqezYynm+n_iU1e1iiu9g@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,

The IC-910H is a great radio...but it has a reputation for being picky
about any DC voltage drop from the power supply / power cable when you're
attempting to achieve rated power output.

Until you've achieved the results you'd expect, I'd make sure that you have
a stout 20 amp power supply that maintains 13.8v at full load, and that
your power cable connects directly to the power supply.   If you've got any
power cable extensions, power pole distribution blocks, or extra connectors
in line with the power cable, they may add some resistance which can impact
the transmit power output on the radio.  There may be no impact, best to
make sure if you're not satisfied with the transmitter performance.

Use a dummy load in your testing to ensure that the transmitter has a 50
ohm load and the transmitter protection isn't reducing power if the
connected antenna isn't a perfect match (which few are).

The Bird is an averaging meter, and SSB is low in average power output
(unless the audio is compressed) so, you're not going to see a lot of power
in SSB on that meter.   Thats the reality measurement.

While the transmit audio quality isn't what I prefer when used, you can
enable the 'Comp' which is the compressor, which will increase the average
transmit power which will produce a higher average reading on the Bird
meter.  Doubtful you'll want to use that feature in your on air pursuits in
the long run, but, may offer insight in your testing.

As for CW, you can find in the manual how to enable the up/down buttons on
the microphone to be the keyer  in CW mode.

If you want to hear your 145.000 Mhz transmit, connect VHF to a dummy load,
tune to VHF to 145.000 tune UHF to 435.000 set both to USB, Transmit on 145
Mhz and you should hear the 3rd harmonic just fine and get an idea of your
transmit audio.

HOPEFULLY you'll conclude that you've got 10-15 watts average saying
FIIIIVVVVEEE slowly on SSB into a dummy load, and conclude things are
reasonably good and we'll find you on the air soon.

Hope this helps,
Mike
W4UOO

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 12:46 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
wrote:

> Average power meter vs peak power meter
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 12 Aug 2017, at 10:08 am, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > SDR Dongle says I'm getting out.  And if I whistle, I can deflect the
> Bird
> > meter. Thanks everyone for your help. I was worrying for nothing.
> >
> >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On August 11, 2017 1:19:46 PM CDT, Floyd Rodgers <kc5qbc at swbell.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Try AM mode and the meter should register or get another meter that can
> >>> measure ssb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, August 11, 2017 8:15 AM, Andrew Rich
> >>> <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I talked my test equipment mate
> >>>
> >>> You would have to whistle fairly loudly to get a swing on the bird
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:28 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I do have a little USB SDR. I plan hook that up tonight to see if I
> >>> can see an indication of signal. I don't want to furiously try to
> >>> contact someone via satellite and find out I'm not putting out any
> >>> power.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've never owned this rig until a couple days ago so there's always a
> >>> possibility I'm doing something wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Rich
> >>> <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Peter are you speaking loudly
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The energy in an fm envelope is way larger than a side band
> >>> transmission
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The fact that your reaching an alc level seems to indicate the radio
> >>> is doing its job
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pity u don't have USB rx
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you have a software defined radios ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andrew
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:02 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a
> >>> possible
> >>>>>> issue with it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with
> >>> my
> >>>>>> handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with
> >>> a 50E
> >>>>>> slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
> >>>>>> indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter,
> >>> despite
> >>>>>> turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed
> >>> the RF
> >>>>>> power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light
> >>> flashes on
> >>>>>> the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can
> >>> also hear
> >>>>>> distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and
> >>> not USB)
> >>>>>> but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I
> >>> haven't
> >>>>>> been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug.
> >>> Should I
> >>>>>> be concerned about the lack of power?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on
> >>> USB/LSB.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>> W9KG
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> >>> available
> >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>> Opinions expressed
> >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> >>> views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> program!
> >>>>>> Subscription settings:
> >>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >>> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >>> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >> If your rig has a RTTY mode, switch to that and key down. You should
> get a
> >> full power tone with no actual data modulating it.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> --- Zach
> >> N0ZGO
> >> --- Zach
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> >> expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >> AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



-- 
Thanks,
Mike Sprenger
(37.9167N  81.1244W is the Summit)

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 13 09:50:13 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:50:13 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Reporter V1.1 (update)
Message-ID: <005b01d31419$9020c140$b06243c0$@internode.on.net>

Hello

 

Satellite Reporter V1.1 has been released.

 

http://59.167.159.165/

 

Since V1.0 there has been continuous improvements

 

1.	The system looks back 60 minutes not the hour now for system logs
and stats
2.	The system has auto restart and reboot scripts from non activity
3.	The system has html access logs and disk usage
4.	The system can now take manual entries
5.	Scripts and files are backed up at 3 am 
6.	A satellite map of ISS was added
7.	Statistics are chopped off and only show the last 24 hours
8.	The background of the dashboard turns green if active in the last 60
mins and red if not.
9.	This all runs on a little raspberry pi sitting in the corner with
just the power lead hooked into it.
10.	The main screen was dumped and the system goes straight into the ISS
view
11.	I can add email alerts to those that want it , either at the moment,
hourly , daily or weekly summaries
12.	A list of stations heard in the last 60 minutes scrolls across the
top of the log 
13.	Open to suggestions - send me an email 
14.	Times are AEST ( GMT+10) for the time being so I can debug.
15.	Let me know If you want to add in any other satellites.

 

Work in progress

 

Andrew Rich VK4TEC 


From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 13 11:03:57 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:03:57 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
Message-ID: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>

With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296 MHz use.

I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact

It's 12 bits
It's got tracking filters
It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx

Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?

The funcube dongle is probably the best ?

I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play 

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

From firefighterryan37 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 11:32:13 2017
From: firefighterryan37 at gmail.com (ryan woods)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 07:32:13 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Reporter V1.1 (update)
In-Reply-To: <005b01d31419$9020c140$b06243c0$@internode.on.net>
References: <005b01d31419$9020c140$b06243c0$@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAAUg=NQkBYUFMd+5X+wWLrKLs3a831SP_F2xtuhe81qP2zaF+g@mail.gmail.com>

I absolutely love this project! I have always wanted to get in to
programming but can never get my head wrapped around alot of it! I only
have a dxcluster running on one of my pis currently.

Keep up the good work!

73
Ryan
KD8ATF

On Aug 13, 2017 5:50 AM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> Satellite Reporter V1.1 has been released.
>
>
>
> http://59.167.159.165/
>
>
>
> Since V1.0 there has been continuous improvements
>
>
>
>    1. The system looks back 60 minutes not the hour now for system logs
>    and stats
>    2. The system has auto restart and reboot scripts from non activity
>    3. The system has html access logs and disk usage
>    4. The system can now take manual entries
>    5. Scripts and files are backed up at 3 am
>    6. A satellite map of ISS was added
>    7. Statistics are chopped off and only show the last 24 hours
>    8. The background of the dashboard turns green if active in the last
>    60 mins and red if not.
>    9. This all runs on a little raspberry pi sitting in the corner with
>    just the power lead hooked into it.
>    10. The main screen was dumped and the system goes straight into the
>    ISS view
>    11. I can add email alerts to those that want it , either at the
>    moment, hourly , daily or weekly summaries
>    12. A list of stations heard in the last 60 minutes scrolls across the
>    top of the log
>    13. Open to suggestions ? send me an email
>    14. Times are AEST ( GMT+10) for the time being so I can debug.
>    15. Let me know If you want to add in any other satellites.
>
>
>
> Work in progress
>
>
>
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>
> _______________________________________________
> aprssig mailing list
> aprssig at tapr.org
> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>
>

From fab4space at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 12:00:30 2017
From: fab4space at gmail.com (fabrice faure)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:00:30 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CA+4TZV-KpB2nCLpjG-nOzZLTUdo2HDzvJi37942DBP5Xjjxfaw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello

For the best performance with vhf / uhf I would recommend the funcube
dongle pro+ without hesitation.

73 de Fabrice F4HHV

Le 13 ao?t 2017 13:06, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> a ?crit :

> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296
> MHz use.
>
> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>
> It's 12 bits
> It's got tracking filters
> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>
> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>
> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>
> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 13 12:03:17 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 22:03:17 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Reporter V1.1 (update)
In-Reply-To: <CAAUg=NQkBYUFMd+5X+wWLrKLs3a831SP_F2xtuhe81qP2zaF+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005b01d31419$9020c140$b06243c0$@internode.on.net>
	<CAAUg=NQkBYUFMd+5X+wWLrKLs3a831SP_F2xtuhe81qP2zaF+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <800B7EAC-C21E-4909-A235-1E11BE22EEB4@internode.on.net>

Do you want me to github the project you can learn from the scripts

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Aug 2017, at 9:32 pm, ryan woods <firefighterryan37 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I absolutely love this project! I have always wanted to get in to programming but can never get my head wrapped around alot of it! I only have a dxcluster running on one of my pis currently. 
> 
> Keep up the good work! 
> 
> 73
> Ryan
> KD8ATF 
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2017 5:50 AM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Satellite Reporter V1.1 has been released.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://59.167.159.165/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Since V1.0 there has been continuous improvements
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The system looks back 60 minutes not the hour now for system logs and stats
>> The system has auto restart and reboot scripts from non activity
>> The system has html access logs and disk usage
>> The system can now take manual entries
>> Scripts and files are backed up at 3 am
>> A satellite map of ISS was added
>> Statistics are chopped off and only show the last 24 hours
>> The background of the dashboard turns green if active in the last 60 mins and red if not.
>> This all runs on a little raspberry pi sitting in the corner with just the power lead hooked into it.
>> The main screen was dumped and the system goes straight into the ISS view
>> I can add email alerts to those that want it , either at the moment, hourly , daily or weekly summaries
>> A list of stations heard in the last 60 minutes scrolls across the top of the log
>> Open to suggestions ? send me an email
>> Times are AEST ( GMT+10) for the time being so I can debug.
>> Let me know If you want to add in any other satellites.
>>  
>> 
>> Work in progress
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> aprssig at tapr.org
>> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>> 

From kg5jup at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 01:58:08 2017
From: kg5jup at gmail.com (Chris Bradley)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 20:58:08 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CANk-AFsX1Jdvriq-cKExY8s5HFdLe6nSAyEmF1mo7bDHXyfN4g@mail.gmail.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-218.01

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Return of Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-85
* AMSAT-NA Elects Executive Vice President
* ARRL PR Poster Features Amateur Radio in Space
* AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation
* AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017
* AMSATSA/SARL Workshop To Focus On Taking SDR To A New Level
* ARLK061 Keplerian data
* NASA Program Gives Students Access to Astronauts
* Mayak Fails to Deploy Solar Reflector
* Satellite Shorts From All Over
+ Satellite Reporter
+ RX only i-gate
+ Grid Expedition


SB SUN @ AMSAT $ANS-218.01
ANS-218.01 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 218.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
August 13, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-218.01


Return of Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-85

With the recent popularity of Slow Scan Television (SSTV) from the
ISS, AMSAT Operations is bringing back Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-
85.

On a trial basis, we invite users to exchange pictures using Robot
36 SSTV mode via the FM repeater on AO-85 during UTC Wednesdays.
Please identify prior to beginning transmissions, and only send when
the uplink is clear.

Stations are requested to only uplink if they have a reasonable
expectation of maintaining a full-quieting signal for the duration of
the image transmission.
Smaller stations are encouraged to focus on receiving the images.
Please don't send questionable or provocative images. If in doubt,
pick another one.
Expect all ages to be participating.
Feedback is encouraged, and comments may be directed via email to me
at ko4ma at amsat dot org.

[ANS thanks Drew KO4MA for the above information]

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AMSAT-NA Vice President, Educational Relations, Joe Spier, K6WAO of
Reno, NV, has been elected by the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors as
Executive Vice President during a Board Meeting via a conference call
that took place on August 8, 2017. Joe's new duties will include
implementation of AMSAT-NA's Strategic Planning. He will continue in
his other duties as 2017 Space Symposium Chairman, AMSAT News Service
Co-Editor, ARISS-NA Education, and Educational Relations until new
personnel can be appointed or the task assigned is completed.

Under the AMSAT ByLaws, the position of Executive Vice President is
one of seven senior officer positions that are approved by the AMSAT
Board of Directors.

Included in the ByLaw stated duties, "the Executive Vice President
shall act in the place of the President in the President's absence,
and shall have such other duties as the Board may determine."
[Bylaws, Article II, Section 5B].

In addition, the Executive VP is assigned the responsibility of AMSAT
External Relations team leader and as acting director of any team
leader position that is not filled.

Joe is a Life Member of AMSAT-NA and has served in Educational
Relations during the past six years. He also has Life Memberships in
the ARRL, SARA (Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers) and the AFA
(Air Force Association). He holds an Extra Class license as well
Commercial licenses.

AMSAT-NA President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW said, "I extend my
congratulations to Joe on his new position of leadership in AMSAT-NA.
As EVP, he will be working closely with me on a variety of matters
involving various AMSAT departments as we move forward on our
strategic planning process as well as day-to-day management of the
organization.  Joe's dedication to the strategic planning process
will enhance the future of AMSAT-NA."


[ANS thanks the AMSAT-NA BOD for the above information]


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ARRL PR Poster Features Amateur Radio in Space

The ARRL offers a series of six posters that promote Amateur
Radio to the general public. These were originally designed
by ARRL for the 2017 National Scouting Jamboree, but may be
used for any outreach effort. Each poster is 11" x 17".

One of the posters features amateur radio in space.
The six posters are based around the theme, "Ham Radio Is..."

Those themes are:

+ Adventure (Portable operating of all kinds)
+ Discovery (Making/Building/DIY)
+ Friendship (Community and Mentoring)
+ Out Of This World (space communications/satellites)
+ Ready (Publc Service)
+ The Game (Contesting and Awards)

A link to ARRL's "What Is Ham Radio" page is provided as both
a URL and a QR code on each poster.

The posters are available for free download in PDF format.
http://www.arrl.org/pr-posters

We suggest printing on high-gloss paper and framing them
for maximum effect.

[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information]


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AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation

AMSAT Phase 4 Ground will next present at the GNU Radio Conference
in September, in San Diego, CA.

Register now at https://www.gnuradio.org/grcon-2017/

After that, we will be at the AMSAT Symposium in October, in Reno,
NV. More information at https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/
Thank you to Paul Williamson and Steve Conklin for helping staff the
booth, bringing cool custom swag, setting up demonstrations, and
answering hundreds and hundreds of questions. We are already looking
forward to next year!

[ANS thanks Michelle Thompson, W5NYV for the above information]


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AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017

Ballots for AMSAT-NA's Board of Directors were mailed to members in
good standing on July 15. Members are encouraged to complete their
ballots and return them as soon as possible. Ballots must be received
at the AMSAT office by September 15 in order to be counted.

This year AMSAT-NA will be electing four voting members of the Board
of Directors. These will go to the four candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. In addition, there will be one alternate
chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.

The 2017 candidates, in alphabetical order by last name are:

Jerry Buxton, N0JY
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
Peter Portanova, W2JV
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an
opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of
AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that
will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the
Board. You have the option to vote for up to four candidates.

[ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information]


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AMSATSA/SARL Workshop To Focus On Taking SDR To A New Level

The AMSAT SA/SARL workshop, to be held on Saturday 19 August at the
SARL National Amateur Radio Centre at Radiokop Roodepoort, will focus
on how to get more out of Software Defined Radio, and will take
participants to another level in Amateur Radio activity.

The workshop will be presented in two sessions. Session one will
deal with the VHF SDR dongle and how to have more fun, such as
listening to satellites, receiving weather satellites pictures, and
astronomy projects. The second session will discuss a HF Dongle and
the SARL HF Noise floor monitoring project, with details and a
demonstration of how to automate this and how to build an autonomous
system using a raspberry Pi.

For more details and to check your registration status, point your
browser to www.amsatsa.org.za or send an e-mail to
admin at amsatsa.org.za

[ANS thanks SARL weekly news in English 2017-8-5 for the above
information]


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ARLK061 Keplerian data

Decode 2-line elsets with the following key:
1 AAAAAU 00  0  0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB  .CCCCCCCC  00000-0  00000-0 0  DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM

0 AO-07
1 7530U 74089B   17222.89382764 -.00000034 +00000-0 +65403-4 0  9994
2 7530 101.6352 190.5113 0011675 214.9856 169.6542 12.53628132955487
0 FO-29
1 24278U 96046B   17222.88315093 -.00000020 +00000-0 +15539-4 0  9999
2 24278 098.5553 098.8469 0350108 195.5218 163.4964 13.53077139036025
0 ISS
1 25544U 98067A   17223.80427436  .00000839  00000-0  19944-4 0  9990
2 25544  51.6417 121.0685 0005753 127.9944 342.4344 15.54137576 70404
0 SO-50
1 27607U 02058C   17222.70530263 -.00000019 +00000-0 +17647-4 0  9997
2 27607 064.5567 318.9629 0030593 068.5242 291.9118 14.75346094787154
0 CO-55
1 27844U 03031E   17222.95672142 +.00000034 +00000-0 +35298-4 0  9990
2 27844 098.6896 231.1665 0009598 181.9520 178.1621 14.22051495732061
0 RS-22
1 27939U 03042A   17222.97040331 +.00000040 +00000-0 +15718-4 0  9990
2 27939 097.9469 005.9677 0014114 056.3493 048.5280 14.66584866741206
0 CO-58
1 28895U 05043F   17222.87314324 +.00000088 +00000-0 +25763-4 0  9993
2 28895 097.8709 022.6618 0016157 335.1569 024.8855 14.63418301628257
0 CO-65
1 32785U 08021C   17222.91711090 +.00000186 +00000-0 +25911-4 0  9995
2 32785 097.5644 244.6845 0012846 354.3527 005.7544 14.87920127502963
0 COMPASS 1
1 32787U 08021E   17219.63433091 +.00000659 +00000-0 +69181-4 0  9996
2 32787 097.5570 250.7406 0011708 333.3907 026.6710 14.92651841503170
0 DO-64
1 32789U 08021G   17222.94489045 +.00000684 +00000-0 +52430-4 0  9993
2 32789 097.5555 280.0153 0010897 275.4557 084.5426 15.05021247505002
0 RS-30
1 32953U 08025A   17222.93246189 +.00000006 +00000-0 -27611-4 0  9991
2 32953 082.5015 205.6094 0019184 161.8443 198.3326 12.43078449418222
0 KKS-1
1 33499U 09002H   17222.88213370 +.00000109 +00000-0 +24219-4 0  9997
2 33499 098.3375 029.8818 0008862 192.4626 167.6364 14.75208800459427
0 AO-71
1 37854U 11061E   17222.66330723 +.00001124 +00000-0 +68027-4 0  9995
2 37854 101.6957 123.9919 0166924 273.7613 084.4526 15.04249114314670
0 AO-73
1 39444U 13066AE  17222.57930650 +.00000238 +00000-0 +35934-4 0  9990
2 39444 097.6269 263.2963 0060073 088.8088 272.0007 14.81476715199070
0 UKUBE 1
1 40074U 14037F   17222.79095587 +.00000329 +00000-0 +47155-4 0  9994
2 40074 098.3518 340.1779 0003571 225.1982 134.8938 14.83534592167270
0 XW-2A
1 40903U 15049E   17222.87356365 +.00001746 +00000-0 +47328-4 0  9998
2 40903 097.4186 249.2480 0016516 071.5648 288.7391 15.38944766106055
0 XW-2C
1 40906U 15049H   17223.20886975  .00000610  00000-0  36481-4 0  9991
2 40906  97.4556 227.6027 0016062  29.9894 330.2255 15.14609982104560
0 XW-2F
1 40910U 15049M   17222.96013475 +.00000999 +00000-0 +55913-4 0  9996
2 40910 097.4544 227.8796 0016161 026.6269 333.5790 15.15634603104577
0 IO-86
1 40931U 15052B   17222.61952655 +.00000684 +00000-0 +62228-5 0  9996
2 40931 005.9980 204.6432 0013797 295.9894 063.7063 14.76535783101022
0 AO-85
1 40967U 15058D   17221.51251771  .00000256  00000-0  48666-4 0 00502
2 40967 064.7776 057.1238 0174670 058.2511 303.5480 14.75464490007664

Keplerian bulletins are transmitted twice weekly from W1AW.  The
next scheduled transmission of these data will be Tuesday, August 15,
2017, at 2230z on Baudot and BPSK31.

[ANS thanks ARRL News Bulletin for the above information]


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* NASA Program Gives Students Access to Astronauts

On June 23, NASA astronaut Jack Fischer spoke with 22 Girl Scouts of
North East Ohio, while he was aboard the International Space Station.
More than 400 people attended the event, with many more watching live
footage online.

Children all over the world can connect with astronauts aboard the
space station via Amateur Radio on the International Space Station
(ARISS), and with the help of volunteer ham operators. ARISS delegates
from the United States, Russia, Canada, Europe and Japan help connect
the world, from Senegal to Cincinnati, with the station. These contacts
endeavor to inspire youth worldwide to pursue science,
technology, engineering and math (STEM) interests and careers.

"Ham radio was one of the most rewarding things to do on the
International Space Station," said NASA astronaut Sunita Williams, a
former Girl Scout and Ohioan. "Having that connection with kids on
Earth who have worked hard to understand and build HAM radio was priceless.
Their excited voices, echoing through equipment they had a hand in
building, brought numerous smiles and often tears to my eyes.
Afterward, getting the reports on how the kids enjoyed the
event, and how amazed that they were that they were talking directly
with a space ship, really made me understand how important and how
easily we can get kids interested in STEM. ARISS is a great project
and we are so happy to be part of it on the International Space Station."

The Girl Scout mission is to build girls of courage, confidence and
character, who make the world a better place. Williams embodies this
tenet. She's lived more than 322 days in space over the course of four
expeditions to the ISS, Expeditions 14, 15, 32 and 33.
During her stay, she logged more than 50 hours of space walks, ran
the first marathon and triathlon in space, and participated in a number
of ARISS contacts. She currently trains to fly America's first commercially
built spacecraft, the Boeing CST-100 Starliner and the SpaceX Dragon.

The week prior to the contact, Sydney Walter, an 11-year-old
Girl Scout, participated in the Girl Scouts of North East Ohio's Space
Cadettes program at Camp Timberlane in Lorain County, Ohio. She met
with NASA professionals, learned what it's like to float in zero gravity
and explored constellations with a Starlab portable planetarium.
The ARISS contact rounded off a week of activities devoted to STEM
education.

"I really like that NASA can do this for kids at schools and Girl Scouts at
camp,"
said Sydney. "It was a really fun experience and I will never forget it."

Programs like this instill powerful memories that can spark a lifelong
passion
for STEM. For 10 minutes, with the space station in range of northern Ohio,
a
field of girls spoke with humans among the stars. Their vests now bear
patches
honoring that moment in time. Pink and green encircle a yellow tent with
the
bold gray shadow of the space station above. The patches honor 10 minutes
when they were not Girl Scouts - they were astronauts.

Volunteers from national amateur radio organizations and AMSAT run ARISS
events.
For more information and to learn how your community can get involved,
visit
www.ariss.org.

By Danny Baird
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.

Link to the patch http://tinyurl.com/ybp6zpll


[ANS thanks JoAnne K9JKM/Pat Kilroy, N8PK for the above information]


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Mayak Fails to Deploy Solar Reflector

"Per Mayak?s simple design, the project engineers did not include a radio
as the satellite could be programmed on the ground to autonomously execute
its critical tasks in orbit to complete the deployment of the solar
reflector. Later in the design stages it was realized that a radio would be
beneficial, however, no radio channel could be allocated to the satellite
this close to launch. A backup plan of using a series of LEDs on the
satellite to deliver basic telemetry in the form of a visual Morse Code
never came to fruition, leaving Mayak without any means of communicating
its status to the ground."


http://tinyurl.com/ybeoz23n


[ANS thanks to AMSAT Bulletin Board for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

* Satellite Reporter

Andrew VK4TEC is working on a little project for space communications
enthusatics It is a raspberry Pi, that is connected to the APRS-IS
and will eventually also take in user reports as well
Andrew has setup a static ip http://59.167.159.165/
It is called "Satellite Reporter"
It is intended to provide a dashboard, stats in graphical format
and also data streams.

Please let me know if you want any features added as this project grows.
I see a user input screen and drop downs for satellites.
I will make an iPhone and Samsung compatible version.
The back end is MySQL and PERL and CGI
I will add ISS for the time being, please check back often for updates.
I think it best to use UTC times for the time being.

[ANS thanks Andrew VK4TEC for the above information]


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+ RX only i-gate

Dave, EI4HT operates an RX only i-gate in the UK MB7UEI-6.
Currently it uses AZ/EL active tracking antennas, VHF and UHF wimo
Xquads, the system runs 24/7 and also tracks the 3 Funcube sats, Dave
plans to expand this further and include the station on WEBSDR,


[ANS thanks Dave EI4HT / M0GIW for the above information]


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+ Gride Expedition

Clayton Coleman (W5PFG) will depart for a satellite grid expedtion to
northern Maine on Friday, August 18. The trip will conclude the
morning of August 21.  I'll roughly follow the same path I used on a
similar expedition  January 2015.

Planned grids will be: FN54-57 and FN64-67

Due to the short duration of this trip, my satellite pass selection
will be dynamic. I will probably not work many passes from each unique
grid. I'll do my best to work from grid boundaries on passes with wide
coverage.

Monitor my Twitter feed @w5pfg for updates during the trip.

[ANS thanks Clayton Coleman (W5PFG) for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Chris Bradley, KG5JUP
kg5jup at amsat dot org
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 13 12:30:59 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 22:30:59 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CA+4TZV-KpB2nCLpjG-nOzZLTUdo2HDzvJi37942DBP5Xjjxfaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CA+4TZV-KpB2nCLpjG-nOzZLTUdo2HDzvJi37942DBP5Xjjxfaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003301d31430$05105ae0$0f3110a0$@internode.on.net>

Can you still buy them Fabrice ?

 

Andrew 

 

From: fabrice faure [mailto:fab4space at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2017 10:01 PM
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception

 

Hello

 

For the best performance with vhf / uhf I would recommend the funcube dongle pro+ without hesitation. 

 

73 de Fabrice F4HHV

 

Le 13 ao?t 2017 13:06, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> a ?crit :

With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296 MHz use.

I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact

It's 12 bits
It's got tracking filters
It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx

Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?

The funcube dongle is probably the best ?

I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone
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From firefighterryan37 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 12:59:20 2017
From: firefighterryan37 at gmail.com (ryan woods)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 08:59:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Reporter V1.1 (update)
In-Reply-To: <800B7EAC-C21E-4909-A235-1E11BE22EEB4@internode.on.net>
References: <005b01d31419$9020c140$b06243c0$@internode.on.net>
	<CAAUg=NQkBYUFMd+5X+wWLrKLs3a831SP_F2xtuhe81qP2zaF+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<800B7EAC-C21E-4909-A235-1E11BE22EEB4@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAAUg=NSJB4+MfHGfJa4g4J2zD-9i6b-X2iMHcfq3h+kyB0cN+A@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, that would be great. Thank you I appreciate it!

On Aug 13, 2017 8:03 AM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Do you want me to github the project you can learn from the scripts
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 13 Aug 2017, at 9:32 pm, ryan woods <firefighterryan37 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I absolutely love this project! I have always wanted to get in to
> programming but can never get my head wrapped around alot of it! I only
> have a dxcluster running on one of my pis currently.
>
> Keep up the good work!
>
> 73
> Ryan
> KD8ATF
>
> On Aug 13, 2017 5:50 AM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> Satellite Reporter V1.1 has been released.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://59.167.159.165/
>>
>>
>>
>> Since V1.0 there has been continuous improvements
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. The system looks back 60 minutes not the hour now for system logs
>>    and stats
>>    2. The system has auto restart and reboot scripts from non activity
>>    3. The system has html access logs and disk usage
>>    4. The system can now take manual entries
>>    5. Scripts and files are backed up at 3 am
>>    6. A satellite map of ISS was added
>>    7. Statistics are chopped off and only show the last 24 hours
>>    8. The background of the dashboard turns green if active in the last
>>    60 mins and red if not.
>>    9. This all runs on a little raspberry pi sitting in the corner with
>>    just the power lead hooked into it.
>>    10. The main screen was dumped and the system goes straight into the
>>    ISS view
>>    11. I can add email alerts to those that want it , either at the
>>    moment, hourly , daily or weekly summaries
>>    12. A list of stations heard in the last 60 minutes scrolls across
>>    the top of the log
>>    13. Open to suggestions ? send me an email
>>    14. Times are AEST ( GMT+10) for the time being so I can debug.
>>    15. Let me know If you want to add in any other satellites.
>>
>>
>>
>> Work in progress
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> aprssig mailing list
>> aprssig at tapr.org
>> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>>
>>

From kg5jup at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 13:48:50 2017
From: kg5jup at gmail.com (KG5JUP)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 08:48:50 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS 225
Message-ID: <173760DC-7148-4DCC-8A69-5819F197AFAF@gmail.com>


My apologizes to all for the errors this week.  This bulletin had the wrong numbering and no subject.   




AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-225.01

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Return of Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-85
* AMSAT-NA Elects Executive Vice President
* ARRL PR Poster Features Amateur Radio in Space
* AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation
* AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017
* AMSATSA/SARL Workshop To Focus On Taking SDR To A New Level
* ARLK061 Keplerian data
* NASA Program Gives Students Access to Astronauts
* Mayak Fails to Deploy Solar Reflector
* Satellite Shorts From All Over
+ Satellite Reporter
+ RX only i-gate
+ Grid Expedition


SB SUN @ AMSAT $ANS-225.01
ANS-218.01 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 218.01
From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
August 13, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-218.01


Return of Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-85

With the recent popularity of Slow Scan Television (SSTV) from the
ISS, AMSAT Operations is bringing back Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-
85.

On a trial basis, we invite users to exchange pictures using Robot
36 SSTV mode via the FM repeater on AO-85 during UTC Wednesdays.
Please identify prior to beginning transmissions, and only send when
the uplink is clear.

Stations are requested to only uplink if they have a reasonable
expectation of maintaining a full-quieting signal for the duration of
the image transmission.
Smaller stations are encouraged to focus on receiving the images.
Please don't send questionable or provocative images. If in doubt,
pick another one.
Expect all ages to be participating.
Feedback is encouraged, and comments may be directed via email to me
at ko4ma at amsat dot org.

[ANS thanks Drew KO4MA for the above information]

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AMSAT-NA Vice President, Educational Relations, Joe Spier, K6WAO of
Reno, NV, has been elected by the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors as
Executive Vice President during a Board Meeting via a conference call
that took place on August 8, 2017. Joe's new duties will include
implementation of AMSAT-NA's Strategic Planning. He will continue in
his other duties as 2017 Space Symposium Chairman, AMSAT News Service
Co-Editor, ARISS-NA Education, and Educational Relations until new
personnel can be appointed or the task assigned is completed.

Under the AMSAT ByLaws, the position of Executive Vice President is
one of seven senior officer positions that are approved by the AMSAT
Board of Directors.

Included in the ByLaw stated duties, "the Executive Vice President
shall act in the place of the President in the President's absence,
and shall have such other duties as the Board may determine."
[Bylaws, Article II, Section 5B].

In addition, the Executive VP is assigned the responsibility of AMSAT
External Relations team leader and as acting director of any team
leader position that is not filled.

Joe is a Life Member of AMSAT-NA and has served in Educational
Relations during the past six years. He also has Life Memberships in
the ARRL, SARA (Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers) and the AFA
(Air Force Association). He holds an Extra Class license as well
Commercial licenses.

AMSAT-NA President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW said, "I extend my
congratulations to Joe on his new position of leadership in AMSAT-NA.
As EVP, he will be working closely with me on a variety of matters
involving various AMSAT departments as we move forward on our
strategic planning process as well as day-to-day management of the
organization.  Joe's dedication to the strategic planning process
will enhance the future of AMSAT-NA."


[ANS thanks the AMSAT-NA BOD for the above information]


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ARRL PR Poster Features Amateur Radio in Space

The ARRL offers a series of six posters that promote Amateur
Radio to the general public. These were originally designed
by ARRL for the 2017 National Scouting Jamboree, but may be
used for any outreach effort. Each poster is 11" x 17".

One of the posters features amateur radio in space.
The six posters are based around the theme, "Ham Radio Is..."

Those themes are:

+ Adventure (Portable operating of all kinds)
+ Discovery (Making/Building/DIY)
+ Friendship (Community and Mentoring)
+ Out Of This World (space communications/satellites)
+ Ready (Publc Service)
+ The Game (Contesting and Awards)

A link to ARRL's "What Is Ham Radio" page is provided as both
a URL and a QR code on each poster.

The posters are available for free download in PDF format.
http://www.arrl.org/pr-posters

We suggest printing on high-gloss paper and framing them
for maximum effect.

[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information]


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AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation

AMSAT Phase 4 Ground will next present at the GNU Radio Conference
in September, in San Diego, CA.

Register now at https://www.gnuradio.org/grcon-2017/

After that, we will be at the AMSAT Symposium in October, in Reno,
NV. More information at https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/
Thank you to Paul Williamson and Steve Conklin for helping staff the
booth, bringing cool custom swag, setting up demonstrations, and
answering hundreds and hundreds of questions. We are already looking
forward to next year!

[ANS thanks Michelle Thompson, W5NYV for the above information]


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AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017

Ballots for AMSAT-NA's Board of Directors were mailed to members in
good standing on July 15. Members are encouraged to complete their
ballots and return them as soon as possible. Ballots must be received
at the AMSAT office by September 15 in order to be counted.

This year AMSAT-NA will be electing four voting members of the Board
of Directors. These will go to the four candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. In addition, there will be one alternate
chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.

The 2017 candidates, in alphabetical order by last name are:

Jerry Buxton, N0JY
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
Peter Portanova, W2JV
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an
opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of
AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that
will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the
Board. You have the option to vote for up to four candidates.

[ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information]


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AMSATSA/SARL Workshop To Focus On Taking SDR To A New Level

The AMSAT SA/SARL workshop, to be held on Saturday 19 August at the
SARL National Amateur Radio Centre at Radiokop Roodepoort, will focus
on how to get more out of Software Defined Radio, and will take
participants to another level in Amateur Radio activity.

The workshop will be presented in two sessions. Session one will
deal with the VHF SDR dongle and how to have more fun, such as
listening to satellites, receiving weather satellites pictures, and
astronomy projects. The second session will discuss a HF Dongle and
the SARL HF Noise floor monitoring project, with details and a
demonstration of how to automate this and how to build an autonomous
system using a raspberry Pi.

For more details and to check your registration status, point your
browser to www.amsatsa.org.za or send an e-mail to
admin at amsatsa.org.za

[ANS thanks SARL weekly news in English 2017-8-5 for the above
information]


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ARLK061 Keplerian data

Decode 2-line elsets with the following key:
1 AAAAAU 00  0  0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB  .CCCCCCCC  00000-0  00000-0 0  DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM

0 AO-07
1 7530U 74089B   17222.89382764 -.00000034+00000-0 +65403-4 0  9994
2 7530 101.6352 190.51130011675 214.9856 169.654212.53628132955487
0 FO-29
1 24278U 96046B   17222.88315093 -.00000020+00000-0 +15539-4 0  9999
2 24278 098.5553 098.84690350108 195.5218 163.496413.53077139036025
0 ISS
1 25544U 98067A   17223.80427436  .00000839  00000-0  19944-4 0  9990
2 25544  51.6417 121.06850005753 127.9944 342.434415.54137576 70404
0 SO-50
1 27607U 02058C   17222.70530263 -.00000019+00000-0 +17647-4 0  9997
2 27607 064.5567 318.96290030593 068.5242 291.911814.75346094787154
0 CO-55
1 27844U 03031E   17222.95672142 +.00000034+00000-0 +35298-4 0  9990
2 27844 098.6896 231.16650009598 181.9520 178.162114.22051495732061
0 RS-22
1 27939U 03042A   17222.97040331 +.00000040+00000-0 +15718-4 0  9990
2 27939 097.9469 005.96770014114 056.3493 048.528014.66584866741206
0 CO-58
1 28895U 05043F   17222.87314324 +.00000088+00000-0 +25763-4 0  9993
2 28895 097.8709 022.66180016157 335.1569 024.885514.63418301628257
0 CO-65
1 32785U 08021C   17222.91711090 +.00000186+00000-0 +25911-4 0  9995
2 32785 097.5644 244.68450012846 354.3527 005.754414.87920127502963
0 COMPASS 1
1 32787U 08021E   17219.63433091 +.00000659+00000-0 +69181-4 0  9996
2 32787 097.5570 250.74060011708 333.3907 026.671014.92651841503170
0 DO-64
1 32789U 08021G   17222.94489045 +.00000684+00000-0 +52430-4 0  9993
2 32789 097.5555 280.01530010897 275.4557 084.542615.05021247505002
0 RS-30
1 32953U 08025A   17222.93246189 +.00000006+00000-0 -27611-4 0  9991
2 32953 082.5015 205.60940019184 161.8443 198.332612.43078449418222
0 KKS-1
1 33499U 09002H   17222.88213370 +.00000109+00000-0 +24219-4 0  9997
2 33499 098.3375 029.88180008862 192.4626 167.636414.75208800459427
0 AO-71
1 37854U 11061E   17222.66330723 +.00001124+00000-0 +68027-4 0  9995
2 37854 101.6957 123.99190166924 273.7613 084.452615.04249114314670
0 AO-73
1 39444U 13066AE  17222.57930650 +.00000238+00000-0 +35934-4 0  9990
2 39444 097.6269 263.29630060073 088.8088 272.000714.81476715199070
0 UKUBE 1
1 40074U 14037F   17222.79095587 +.00000329+00000-0 +47155-4 0  9994
2 40074 098.3518 340.17790003571 225.1982 134.893814.83534592167270
0 XW-2A
1 40903U 15049E   17222.87356365 +.00001746+00000-0 +47328-4 0  9998
2 40903 097.4186 249.24800016516 071.5648 288.739115.38944766106055
0 XW-2C
1 40906U 15049H   17223.20886975  .00000610  00000-0  36481-4 0  9991
2 40906  97.4556 227.60270016062  29.9894 330.225515.14609982104560
0 XW-2F
1 40910U 15049M   17222.96013475 +.00000999+00000-0 +55913-4 0  9996
2 40910 097.4544 227.87960016161 026.6269 333.579015.15634603104577
0 IO-86
1 40931U 15052B   17222.61952655 +.00000684+00000-0 +62228-5 0  9996
2 40931 005.9980 204.64320013797 295.9894 063.706314.76535783101022
0 AO-85
1 40967U 15058D   17221.51251771  .00000256  00000-0  48666-4 0 00502
2 40967 064.7776 057.12380174670 058.2511 303.548014.75464490007664

Keplerian bulletins are transmitted twice weekly from W1AW.  The
next scheduled transmission of these data will be Tuesday, August 15,
2017, at 2230z on Baudot and BPSK31.

[ANS thanks ARRL News Bulletin for the above information]


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* NASA Program Gives Students Access to Astronauts

On June 23, NASA astronaut Jack Fischer spoke with 22 Girl Scouts of 
North East Ohio, while he was aboard the International Space Station. 
More than 400 people attended the event, with many more watching live 
footage online.

Children all over the world can connect with astronauts aboard the 
space station via Amateur Radio on the International Space Station 
(ARISS), and with the help of volunteer ham operators. ARISS delegates 
from the United States, Russia, Canada, Europe and Japan help connect 
the world, from Senegal to Cincinnati, with the station. These contacts 
endeavor to inspire youth worldwide to pursue science, 
technology, engineering and math (STEM) interests and careers.

"Ham radio was one of the most rewarding things to do on the 
International Space Station," said NASA astronaut Sunita Williams, a 
former Girl Scout and Ohioan. "Having that connection with kids on 
Earth who have worked hard to understand and build HAM radio was priceless. 
Their excited voices, echoing through equipment they had a hand in 
building, brought numerous smiles and often tears to my eyes. 
Afterward, getting the reports on how the kids enjoyed the 
event, and how amazed that they were that they were talking directly 
with a space ship, really made me understand how important and how 
easily we can get kids interested in STEM. ARISS is a great project 
and we are so happy to be part of it on the International Space Station."

The Girl Scout mission is to build girls of courage, confidence and 
character, who make the world a better place. Williams embodies this 
tenet. She's lived more than 322 days in space over the course of four 
expeditions to the ISS, Expeditions 14, 15, 32 and 33. 
During her stay, she logged more than 50 hours of space walks, ran 
the first marathon and triathlon in space, and participated in a number 
of ARISS contacts. She currently trains to fly America's first commercially 
built spacecraft, the Boeing CST-100 Starliner and the SpaceX Dragon.

The week prior to the contact, Sydney Walter, an 11-year-old 
Girl Scout, participated in the Girl Scouts of North East Ohio's Space 
Cadettes program at Camp Timberlane in Lorain County, Ohio. She met 
with NASA professionals, learned what it's like to float in zero gravity 
and explored constellations with a Starlab portable planetarium. 
The ARISS contact rounded off a week of activities devoted to STEM education.

"I really like that NASA can do this for kids at schools and Girl Scouts at camp," 
said Sydney. "It was a really fun experience and I will never forget it."

Programs like this instill powerful memories that can spark a lifelong passion 
for STEM. For 10 minutes, with the space station in range of northern Ohio, a 
field of girls spoke with humans among the stars. Their vests now bear patches 
honoring that moment in time. Pink and green encircle a yellow tent with the 
bold gray shadow of the space station above. The patches honor 10 minutes 
when they were not Girl Scouts - they were astronauts.

Volunteers from national amateur radio organizations and AMSAT run ARISS events. 
For more information and to learn how your community can get involved, visit 
www.ariss.org. 

By Danny Baird
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.

Link to the patch http://tinyurl.com/ybp6zpll


[ANS thanks JoAnne K9JKM/Pat Kilroy, N8PK for the above information]


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Mayak Fails to Deploy Solar Reflector

"Per Mayak?s simple design, the project engineers did not include a radio
as the satellite could be programmed on the ground to autonomously execute
its critical tasks in orbit to complete the deployment of the solar
reflector. Later in the design stages it was realized that a radio would be
beneficial, however, no radio channel could be allocated to the satellite
this close to launch. A backup plan of using a series of LEDs on the
satellite to deliver basic telemetry in the form of a visual Morse Code
never came to fruition, leaving Mayak without any means of communicating
its status to the ground."


http://tinyurl.com/ybeoz23n


[ANS thanks to AMSAT Bulletin Board for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

* Satellite Reporter

Andrew VK4TEC is working on a little project for space communications
enthusatics It is a raspberry Pi, that is connected to the APRS-IS 
and will eventually also take in user reports as well 
Andrew has setup a static ip http://59.167.159.165/
It is called "Satellite Reporter"
It is intended to provide a dashboard, stats in graphical format
and also data streams. 

Please let me know if you want any features added as this project grows.
I see a user input screen and drop downs for satellites.
I will make an iPhone and Samsung compatible version.
The back end is MySQL and PERL and CGI
I will add ISS for the time being, please check back often for updates.
I think it best to use UTC times for the time being.

[ANS thanks Andrew VK4TEC for the above information]


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+ RX only i-gate

Dave, EI4HT operates an RX only i-gate in the UK MB7UEI-6.
Currently it uses AZ/EL active tracking antennas, VHF and UHF wimo 
Xquads, the system runs 24/7 and also tracks the 3 Funcube sats, Dave
plans to expand this further and include the station on WEBSDR, 


[ANS thanks Dave EI4HT / M0GIW for the above information]


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+ Gride Expedition

Clayton Coleman (W5PFG) will depart for a satellite grid expedtion to 
northern Maine on Friday, August 18. The trip will conclude the 
morning of August 21.  I'll roughly follow the same path I used on a 
similar expedition  January 2015.

Planned grids will be: FN54-57 and FN64-67

Due to the short duration of this trip, my satellite pass selection
will be dynamic. I will probably not work many passes from each unique
grid. I'll do my best to work from grid boundaries on passes with wide
coverage.

Monitor my Twitter feed @w5pfg for updates during the trip.

[ANS thanks Clayton Coleman (W5PFG) for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Chris Bradley, KG5JUP
kg5jup at amsat dot org
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect 
the official views of AMSAT-NA.  Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to 
support the amateur satellite program!  Subscription settings: 
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

Sent from my iPhone

From broadcasterbrad at icloud.com  Sun Aug 13 13:43:13 2017
From: broadcasterbrad at icloud.com (Christopher Bradley)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 08:43:13 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS 218.02
Message-ID: <46249C00-8928-4E38-932B-6D7D7F38796A@icloud.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-218.01

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Return of Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-85
* AMSAT-NA Elects Executive Vice President
* ARRL PR Poster Features Amateur Radio in Space
* AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation
* AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017
* AMSATSA/SARL Workshop To Focus On Taking SDR To A New Level
* ARLK061 Keplerian data
* NASA Program Gives Students Access to Astronauts
* Mayak Fails to Deploy Solar Reflector
* Satellite Shorts From All Over
+ Satellite Reporter
+ RX only i-gate
+ Grid Expedition


SB SUN @ AMSAT $ANS-218.01
ANS-218.01 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 218.01
From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
August 13, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-218.01


Return of Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-85

With the recent popularity of Slow Scan Television (SSTV) from the
ISS, AMSAT Operations is bringing back Experimenter's Wednesday to AO-
85.

On a trial basis, we invite users to exchange pictures using Robot
36 SSTV mode via the FM repeater on AO-85 during UTC Wednesdays.
Please identify prior to beginning transmissions, and only send when
the uplink is clear.

Stations are requested to only uplink if they have a reasonable
expectation of maintaining a full-quieting signal for the duration of
the image transmission.
Smaller stations are encouraged to focus on receiving the images.
Please don't send questionable or provocative images. If in doubt,
pick another one.
Expect all ages to be participating.
Feedback is encouraged, and comments may be directed via email to me
at ko4ma at amsat dot org.

[ANS thanks Drew KO4MA for the above information]

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AMSAT-NA Vice President, Educational Relations, Joe Spier, K6WAO of
Reno, NV, has been elected by the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors as
Executive Vice President during a Board Meeting via a conference call
that took place on August 8, 2017. Joe's new duties will include
implementation of AMSAT-NA's Strategic Planning. He will continue in
his other duties as 2017 Space Symposium Chairman, AMSAT News Service
Co-Editor, ARISS-NA Education, and Educational Relations until new
personnel can be appointed or the task assigned is completed.

Under the AMSAT ByLaws, the position of Executive Vice President is
one of seven senior officer positions that are approved by the AMSAT
Board of Directors.

Included in the ByLaw stated duties, "the Executive Vice President
shall act in the place of the President in the President's absence,
and shall have such other duties as the Board may determine."
[Bylaws, Article II, Section 5B].

In addition, the Executive VP is assigned the responsibility of AMSAT
External Relations team leader and as acting director of any team
leader position that is not filled.

Joe is a Life Member of AMSAT-NA and has served in Educational
Relations during the past six years. He also has Life Memberships in
the ARRL, SARA (Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers) and the AFA
(Air Force Association). He holds an Extra Class license as well
Commercial licenses.

AMSAT-NA President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW said, "I extend my
congratulations to Joe on his new position of leadership in AMSAT-NA.
As EVP, he will be working closely with me on a variety of matters
involving various AMSAT departments as we move forward on our
strategic planning process as well as day-to-day management of the
organization.  Joe's dedication to the strategic planning process
will enhance the future of AMSAT-NA."


[ANS thanks the AMSAT-NA BOD for the above information]


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ARRL PR Poster Features Amateur Radio in Space

The ARRL offers a series of six posters that promote Amateur
Radio to the general public. These were originally designed
by ARRL for the 2017 National Scouting Jamboree, but may be
used for any outreach effort. Each poster is 11" x 17".

One of the posters features amateur radio in space.
The six posters are based around the theme, "Ham Radio Is..."

Those themes are:

+ Adventure (Portable operating of all kinds)
+ Discovery (Making/Building/DIY)
+ Friendship (Community and Mentoring)
+ Out Of This World (space communications/satellites)
+ Ready (Publc Service)
+ The Game (Contesting and Awards)

A link to ARRL's "What Is Ham Radio" page is provided as both
a URL and a QR code on each poster.

The posters are available for free download in PDF format.
http://www.arrl.org/pr-posters

We suggest printing on high-gloss paper and framing them
for maximum effect.

[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information]


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AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation

AMSAT Phase 4 Ground will next present at the GNU Radio Conference
in September, in San Diego, CA.

Register now at https://www.gnuradio.org/grcon-2017/

After that, we will be at the AMSAT Symposium in October, in Reno,
NV. More information at https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/
Thank you to Paul Williamson and Steve Conklin for helping staff the
booth, bringing cool custom swag, setting up demonstrations, and
answering hundreds and hundreds of questions. We are already looking
forward to next year!

[ANS thanks Michelle Thompson, W5NYV for the above information]


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AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017

Ballots for AMSAT-NA's Board of Directors were mailed to members in
good standing on July 15. Members are encouraged to complete their
ballots and return them as soon as possible. Ballots must be received
at the AMSAT office by September 15 in order to be counted.

This year AMSAT-NA will be electing four voting members of the Board
of Directors. These will go to the four candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. In addition, there will be one alternate
chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.

The 2017 candidates, in alphabetical order by last name are:

Jerry Buxton, N0JY
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
Peter Portanova, W2JV
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an
opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of
AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that
will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the
Board. You have the option to vote for up to four candidates.

[ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information]


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AMSATSA/SARL Workshop To Focus On Taking SDR To A New Level

The AMSAT SA/SARL workshop, to be held on Saturday 19 August at the
SARL National Amateur Radio Centre at Radiokop Roodepoort, will focus
on how to get more out of Software Defined Radio, and will take
participants to another level in Amateur Radio activity.

The workshop will be presented in two sessions. Session one will
deal with the VHF SDR dongle and how to have more fun, such as
listening to satellites, receiving weather satellites pictures, and
astronomy projects. The second session will discuss a HF Dongle and
the SARL HF Noise floor monitoring project, with details and a
demonstration of how to automate this and how to build an autonomous
system using a raspberry Pi.

For more details and to check your registration status, point your
browser to www.amsatsa.org.za or send an e-mail to
admin at amsatsa.org.za

[ANS thanks SARL weekly news in English 2017-8-5 for the above
information]


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ARLK061 Keplerian data

Decode 2-line elsets with the following key:
1 AAAAAU 00  0  0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB  .CCCCCCCC  00000-0  00000-0 0  DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM

0 AO-07
1 7530U 74089B   17222.89382764 -.00000034+00000-0 +65403-4 0  9994
2 7530 101.6352 190.51130011675 214.9856 169.654212.53628132955487
0 FO-29
1 24278U 96046B   17222.88315093 -.00000020+00000-0 +15539-4 0  9999
2 24278 098.5553 098.84690350108 195.5218 163.496413.53077139036025
0 ISS
1 25544U 98067A   17223.80427436  .00000839  00000-0  19944-4 0  9990
2 25544  51.6417 121.06850005753 127.9944 342.434415.54137576 70404
0 SO-50
1 27607U 02058C   17222.70530263 -.00000019+00000-0 +17647-4 0  9997
2 27607 064.5567 318.96290030593 068.5242 291.911814.75346094787154
0 CO-55
1 27844U 03031E   17222.95672142 +.00000034+00000-0 +35298-4 0  9990
2 27844 098.6896 231.16650009598 181.9520 178.162114.22051495732061
0 RS-22
1 27939U 03042A   17222.97040331 +.00000040+00000-0 +15718-4 0  9990
2 27939 097.9469 005.96770014114 056.3493 048.528014.66584866741206
0 CO-58
1 28895U 05043F   17222.87314324 +.00000088+00000-0 +25763-4 0  9993
2 28895 097.8709 022.66180016157 335.1569 024.885514.63418301628257
0 CO-65
1 32785U 08021C   17222.91711090 +.00000186+00000-0 +25911-4 0  9995
2 32785 097.5644 244.68450012846 354.3527 005.754414.87920127502963
0 COMPASS 1
1 32787U 08021E   17219.63433091 +.00000659+00000-0 +69181-4 0  9996
2 32787 097.5570 250.74060011708 333.3907 026.671014.92651841503170
0 DO-64
1 32789U 08021G   17222.94489045 +.00000684+00000-0 +52430-4 0  9993
2 32789 097.5555 280.01530010897 275.4557 084.542615.05021247505002
0 RS-30
1 32953U 08025A   17222.93246189 +.00000006+00000-0 -27611-4 0  9991
2 32953 082.5015 205.60940019184 161.8443 198.332612.43078449418222
0 KKS-1
1 33499U 09002H   17222.88213370 +.00000109+00000-0 +24219-4 0  9997
2 33499 098.3375 029.88180008862 192.4626 167.636414.75208800459427
0 AO-71
1 37854U 11061E   17222.66330723 +.00001124+00000-0 +68027-4 0  9995
2 37854 101.6957 123.99190166924 273.7613 084.452615.04249114314670
0 AO-73
1 39444U 13066AE  17222.57930650 +.00000238+00000-0 +35934-4 0  9990
2 39444 097.6269 263.29630060073 088.8088 272.000714.81476715199070
0 UKUBE 1
1 40074U 14037F   17222.79095587 +.00000329+00000-0 +47155-4 0  9994
2 40074 098.3518 340.17790003571 225.1982 134.893814.83534592167270
0 XW-2A
1 40903U 15049E   17222.87356365 +.00001746+00000-0 +47328-4 0  9998
2 40903 097.4186 249.24800016516 071.5648 288.739115.38944766106055
0 XW-2C
1 40906U 15049H   17223.20886975  .00000610  00000-0  36481-4 0  9991
2 40906  97.4556 227.60270016062  29.9894 330.225515.14609982104560
0 XW-2F
1 40910U 15049M   17222.96013475 +.00000999+00000-0 +55913-4 0  9996
2 40910 097.4544 227.87960016161 026.6269 333.579015.15634603104577
0 IO-86
1 40931U 15052B   17222.61952655 +.00000684+00000-0 +62228-5 0  9996
2 40931 005.9980 204.64320013797 295.9894 063.706314.76535783101022
0 AO-85
1 40967U 15058D   17221.51251771  .00000256  00000-0  48666-4 0 00502
2 40967 064.7776 057.12380174670 058.2511 303.548014.75464490007664

Keplerian bulletins are transmitted twice weekly from W1AW.  The
next scheduled transmission of these data will be Tuesday, August 15,
2017, at 2230z on Baudot and BPSK31.

[ANS thanks ARRL News Bulletin for the above information]


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* NASA Program Gives Students Access to Astronauts

On June 23, NASA astronaut Jack Fischer spoke with 22 Girl Scouts of 
North East Ohio, while he was aboard the International Space Station. 
More than 400 people attended the event, with many more watching live 
footage online.

Children all over the world can connect with astronauts aboard the 
space station via Amateur Radio on the International Space Station 
(ARISS), and with the help of volunteer ham operators. ARISS delegates 
from the United States, Russia, Canada, Europe and Japan help connect 
the world, from Senegal to Cincinnati, with the station. These contacts 
endeavor to inspire youth worldwide to pursue science, 
technology, engineering and math (STEM) interests and careers.

"Ham radio was one of the most rewarding things to do on the 
International Space Station," said NASA astronaut Sunita Williams, a 
former Girl Scout and Ohioan. "Having that connection with kids on 
Earth who have worked hard to understand and build HAM radio was priceless. 
Their excited voices, echoing through equipment they had a hand in 
building, brought numerous smiles and often tears to my eyes. 
Afterward, getting the reports on how the kids enjoyed the 
event, and how amazed that they were that they were talking directly 
with a space ship, really made me understand how important and how 
easily we can get kids interested in STEM. ARISS is a great project 
and we are so happy to be part of it on the International Space Station."

The Girl Scout mission is to build girls of courage, confidence and 
character, who make the world a better place. Williams embodies this 
tenet. She's lived more than 322 days in space over the course of four 
expeditions to the ISS, Expeditions 14, 15, 32 and 33. 
During her stay, she logged more than 50 hours of space walks, ran 
the first marathon and triathlon in space, and participated in a number 
of ARISS contacts. She currently trains to fly America's first commercially 
built spacecraft, the Boeing CST-100 Starliner and the SpaceX Dragon.

The week prior to the contact, Sydney Walter, an 11-year-old 
Girl Scout, participated in the Girl Scouts of North East Ohio's Space 
Cadettes program at Camp Timberlane in Lorain County, Ohio. She met 
with NASA professionals, learned what it's like to float in zero gravity 
and explored constellations with a Starlab portable planetarium. 
The ARISS contact rounded off a week of activities devoted to STEM education.

"I really like that NASA can do this for kids at schools and Girl Scouts at camp," 
said Sydney. "It was a really fun experience and I will never forget it."

Programs like this instill powerful memories that can spark a lifelong passion 
for STEM. For 10 minutes, with the space station in range of northern Ohio, a 
field of girls spoke with humans among the stars. Their vests now bear patches 
honoring that moment in time. Pink and green encircle a yellow tent with the 
bold gray shadow of the space station above. The patches honor 10 minutes 
when they were not Girl Scouts - they were astronauts.

Volunteers from national amateur radio organizations and AMSAT run ARISS events. 
For more information and to learn how your community can get involved, visit 
www.ariss.org. 

By Danny Baird
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.

Link to the patch http://tinyurl.com/ybp6zpll


[ANS thanks JoAnne K9JKM/Pat Kilroy, N8PK for the above information]


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Mayak Fails to Deploy Solar Reflector

"Per Mayak?s simple design, the project engineers did not include a radio
as the satellite could be programmed on the ground to autonomously execute
its critical tasks in orbit to complete the deployment of the solar
reflector. Later in the design stages it was realized that a radio would be
beneficial, however, no radio channel could be allocated to the satellite
this close to launch. A backup plan of using a series of LEDs on the
satellite to deliver basic telemetry in the form of a visual Morse Code
never came to fruition, leaving Mayak without any means of communicating
its status to the ground."


http://tinyurl.com/ybeoz23n


[ANS thanks to AMSAT Bulletin Board for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over

* Satellite Reporter

Andrew VK4TEC is working on a little project for space communications
enthusatics It is a raspberry Pi, that is connected to the APRS-IS 
and will eventually also take in user reports as well 
Andrew has setup a static ip http://59.167.159.165/
It is called "Satellite Reporter"
It is intended to provide a dashboard, stats in graphical format
and also data streams. 

Please let me know if you want any features added as this project grows.
I see a user input screen and drop downs for satellites.
I will make an iPhone and Samsung compatible version.
The back end is MySQL and PERL and CGI
I will add ISS for the time being, please check back often for updates.
I think it best to use UTC times for the time being.

[ANS thanks Andrew VK4TEC for the above information]


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+ RX only i-gate

Dave, EI4HT operates an RX only i-gate in the UK MB7UEI-6.
Currently it uses AZ/EL active tracking antennas, VHF and UHF wimo 
Xquads, the system runs 24/7 and also tracks the 3 Funcube sats, Dave
plans to expand this further and include the station on WEBSDR, 


[ANS thanks Dave EI4HT / M0GIW for the above information]


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+ Gride Expedition

Clayton Coleman (W5PFG) will depart for a satellite grid expedtion to 
northern Maine on Friday, August 18. The trip will conclude the 
morning of August 21.  I'll roughly follow the same path I used on a 
similar expedition  January 2015.

Planned grids will be: FN54-57 and FN64-67

Due to the short duration of this trip, my satellite pass selection
will be dynamic. I will probably not work many passes from each unique
grid. I'll do my best to work from grid boundaries on passes with wide
coverage.

Monitor my Twitter feed @w5pfg for updates during the trip.

[ANS thanks Clayton Coleman (W5PFG) for the above information]


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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Chris Bradley, KG5JUP
kg5jup at amsat dot org
_______________________________________________
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Sent from my iPhone

From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 16:12:30 2017
From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:12:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.

I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear satellites.

More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
144 MHz moon bounce.

WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
compensation.

The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
compensation.

73 - Paul - W2HRO






On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296 MHz use.
>
> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>
> It's 12 bits
> It's got tracking filters
> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>
> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>
> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>
> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From fab4space at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 17:07:49 2017
From: fab4space at gmail.com (fabrice faure)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:07:49 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>

hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
73 de Fabrice F4HHV

Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com> a ?crit :

> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>
> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
> satellites.
>
> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>
> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
> compensation.
>
> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
> compensation.
>
> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
> wrote:
> > With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296
> MHz use.
> >
> > I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
> >
> > It's 12 bits
> > It's got tracking filters
> > It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
> >
> > Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
> >
> > The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
> >
> > I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Aug 13 17:25:20 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:25:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqeNxT_nm+Sh-OpMy1Q3hXCYDE2P5dDOq7EZvzMtYA8JQ@mail.gmail.com>

In Windows, you can configure SatPC32 to control HDSDR through a virtual
serial cable as well.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:07 PM, fabrice faure <fab4space at gmail.com> wrote:

> hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>
> Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
> > Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
> > frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
> > linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
> > 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
> > LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
> >
> > I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
> > satellites.
> >
> > More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
> > SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
> > Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
> > signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
> > 144 MHz moon bounce.
> >
> > WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
> > doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
> > compensation.
> >
> > The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
> > application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
> > compensation.
> >
> > 73 - Paul - W2HRO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
> > wrote:
> > > With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
> > interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 /
> 1296
> > MHz use.
> > >
> > > I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
> > >
> > > It's 12 bits
> > > It's got tracking filters
> > > It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
> > >
> > > Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
> > >
> > > The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
> > >
> > > I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 13 17:27:47 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (vk4tec at internode.on.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 03:27:47 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
Message-ID: <000001d31459$7b95b510$72c11f30$@internode.on.net>

Hello

 

Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet with
space data.

 

UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than two
minutes out

 

We are essentially loosing space packets.

 

I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.

 

I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it 

 

Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?

 

Andrew 


From n0jy at amsat.org  Sun Aug 13 17:29:10 2017
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:29:10 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqeNxT_nm+Sh-OpMy1Q3hXCYDE2P5dDOq7EZvzMtYA8JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOqeNxT_nm+Sh-OpMy1Q3hXCYDE2P5dDOq7EZvzMtYA8JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0c3feb98-0fa0-eba8-b2cf-8b42e77b405a@amsat.org>

SDR# works with SatPC32 DDE for FUNcube Dongle Doppler control.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 8/13/2017 12:25, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> In Windows, you can configure SatPC32 to control HDSDR through a virtual
> serial cable as well.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:07 PM, fabrice faure <fab4space at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
>> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>>
>> Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>
>>> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
>>> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
>>> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
>>> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
>>> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>>>
>>> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
>>> satellites.
>>>
>>> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
>>> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
>>> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
>>> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
>>> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>>>
>>> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
>>> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
>>> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
>>> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 /
>> 1296
>>> MHz use.
>>>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>>>
>>>> It's 12 bits
>>>> It's got tracking filters
>>>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>>>
>>>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>>>
>>>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
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From framirezferrer at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 17:47:10 2017
From: framirezferrer at gmail.com (Fernando Ramirez)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:47:10 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqeNxT_nm+Sh-OpMy1Q3hXCYDE2P5dDOq7EZvzMtYA8JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOqeNxT_nm+Sh-OpMy1Q3hXCYDE2P5dDOq7EZvzMtYA8JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGHXx8gHR9CYq01HqPJScDMkUmmxtW0kR_wzrnPfQY3phkaA1g@mail.gmail.com>

SatPC32 will also control the SDRPlay with SDRUno the same way.

My linear satellite setup is a FT-817nd, a SDRPlay and a laptop running
SDRUno and SatPC32. The radio communicates with SatPC32 via a CAT Bluetooth
dongle. Make sure to add filters on each feedline to get rid of desense, if
using an Arrow antenna.

73
Fernando, NP4JV

On Aug 13, 2017 10:28 AM, "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> In Windows, you can configure SatPC32 to control HDSDR through a virtual
> serial cable as well.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:07 PM, fabrice faure <fab4space at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
> > 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
> >
> > Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> >
> > > Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
> > > frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
> > > linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
> > > 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
> > > LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
> > >
> > > I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
> > > satellites.
> > >
> > > More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
> > > SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
> > > Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
> > > signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
> > > 144 MHz moon bounce.
> > >
> > > WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
> > > doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
> > > compensation.
> > >
> > > The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
> > > application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
> > > compensation.
> > >
> > > 73 - Paul - W2HRO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
> > > interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 /
> > 1296
> > > MHz use.
> > > >
> > > > I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
> > > >
> > > > It's 12 bits
> > > > It's got tracking filters
> > > > It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
> > > >
> > > > The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
> > > >
> > > > I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > > Opinions expressed
> > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> > of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > > program!
> > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
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> of
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> > >
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From fab4space at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 17:49:54 2017
From: fab4space at gmail.com (fabrice faure)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:49:54 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <003301d31430$05105ae0$0f3110a0$@internode.on.net>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CA+4TZV-KpB2nCLpjG-nOzZLTUdo2HDzvJi37942DBP5Xjjxfaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<003301d31430$05105ae0$0f3110a0$@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CA+4TZV9YfGpmJa6GDGwX6+nkBYk+-TrXcMq=ucLn277VT8tvow@mail.gmail.com>

yes, it is still available from various online resellers.
Fabrice F4HHV

Le 13 ao?t 2017 14:31, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> a ?crit :

> Can you still buy them Fabrice ?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> *From:* fabrice faure [mailto:fab4space at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 13 August 2017 10:01 PM
> *To:* Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
> *Cc:* amsat-bb at amsat.org
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
>
>
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> For the best performance with vhf / uhf I would recommend the funcube
> dongle pro+ without hesitation.
>
>
>
> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>
>
>
> Le 13 ao?t 2017 13:06, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> a ?crit :
>
> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296
> MHz use.
>
> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>
> It's 12 bits
> It's got tracking filters
> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>
> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>
> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>
> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>

From kennethfinnegan2007 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 17:51:42 2017
From: kennethfinnegan2007 at gmail.com (Kenneth Finnegan)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:51:42 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
In-Reply-To: <000001d31459$7b95b510$72c11f30$@internode.on.net>
References: <000001d31459$7b95b510$72c11f30$@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CAFS5k-itfki8K2Zn5m4LfVUAOqRJpd63x7WytgFEV5Aivohwbw@mail.gmail.com>

We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is
out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago.

Kenneth Finnegan

On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet
> with space data.
>
>
>
> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than
> two minutes out
>
>
>
> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>
>
>
> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>
>
>
> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>
>
>
> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> _______________________________________________
> aprssig mailing list
> aprssig at tapr.org
> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>
>

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Aug 13 18:12:52 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 04:12:52 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
In-Reply-To: <CAFS5k-itfki8K2Zn5m4LfVUAOqRJpd63x7WytgFEV5Aivohwbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d31459$7b95b510$72c11f30$@internode.on.net>
	<CAFS5k-itfki8K2Zn5m4LfVUAOqRJpd63x7WytgFEV5Aivohwbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98C8CEB8-3F17-42BE-A1C1-CFC7C573F90F@tech-software.net>

I can use what I like

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago. 
> 
> Kenneth Finnegan
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet with space data.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than two minutes out
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> aprssig mailing list
>> aprssig at tapr.org
>> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>> 

From pconver at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 18:43:48 2017
From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 15:43:48 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANTZqK=Oz4KtxaDsS0dX43BwVBez2KxA5aakHKkS0OpxC781+g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Paul,

Regarding software to control doppler on SDR:

For sats, I run HDSDR V2.76 using a generic SDR with RTL2832 Chip.

Running http://amsat.org.ar/pass.exe handles nicely SDR Freqs.

Seamlessly clicking any satellite, its Freqs+Dopplers are set on SDR.

73, LU7ABF, Pedro.

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>
> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear satellites.
>
> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>
> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
> compensation.
>
> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
> compensation.
>
> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296 MHz use.
>>
>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>
>> It's 12 bits
>> It's got tracking filters
>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>
>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>
>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>
>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Aug 13 18:16:35 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 04:16:35 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
In-Reply-To: <CAFS5k-itfki8K2Zn5m4LfVUAOqRJpd63x7WytgFEV5Aivohwbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d31459$7b95b510$72c11f30$@internode.on.net>
	<CAFS5k-itfki8K2Zn5m4LfVUAOqRJpd63x7WytgFEV5Aivohwbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <606C0EFD-F785-4D4C-9ECB-C5E5CAFEB969@tech-software.net>

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogant

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago. 
> 
> Kenneth Finnegan
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet with space data.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than two minutes out
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> aprssig mailing list
>> aprssig at tapr.org
>> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>> 

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Aug 13 18:39:13 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 04:39:13 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
In-Reply-To: <CAFS5k-itfki8K2Zn5m4LfVUAOqRJpd63x7WytgFEV5Aivohwbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d31459$7b95b510$72c11f30$@internode.on.net>
	<CAFS5k-itfki8K2Zn5m4LfVUAOqRJpd63x7WytgFEV5Aivohwbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3DE5ADAA-8CDE-4294-8A86-CF6FD4E8E13F@tech-software.net>

Who are "we"

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago. 
> 
> Kenneth Finnegan
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet with space data.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than two minutes out
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> aprssig mailing list
>> aprssig at tapr.org
>> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
>> 

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 19:40:03 2017
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:40:03 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <683e2e78-b366-39ee-b589-5192524dd7ba@gmail.com>

HA!  Never thought of using them together.  Got it working with my
generic RTL Dongle; so easy!

Thanks!

Greg  KO5TH


fabrice faure wrote:
> hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>
> Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
>> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
>> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
>> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
>> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
>> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>>
>> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
>> satellites.
>>
>> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
>> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
>> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
>> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
>> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>>
>> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
>> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
>> compensation.
>>
>> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
>> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
>> compensation.
>>
>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
>> wrote:
>>> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
>> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296
>> MHz use.
>>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>>
>>> It's 12 bits
>>> It's got tracking filters
>>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>>
>>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>>
>>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>>
>>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
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From tucker at mcguireland.com  Sun Aug 13 19:49:07 2017
From: tucker at mcguireland.com (Tucker McGuire)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 15:49:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] Sat reporter and UI-VIEW dumping packets
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Andrew,

Most every post I see you make in this BB is either rude, full of
complaints, or similar. Perhaps if you worded your responses in a more
strategic, kinder way, you would receive kinder, more helpful answers or
responses in return.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Tucker
W4FS

On Aug 13, 2017 3:35 PM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:

Who are "we"

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, Kenneth Finnegan <
kennethfinnegan2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We have already told you several times to stop using UI-view since it is
out of date and it's author died more than a decade ago.
>
> Kenneth Finnegan
>
>> On Aug 13, 2017 10:28, <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> Just be a bit careful about what programs you use to feed the internet
with space data.
>>
>>
>>
>> UI-VIEW for example dumps packets that are identical and heard less than
two minutes out
>>
>>
>>
>> We are essentially loosing space packets.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to run a TNC and use a raspberry pi and a direct link.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just saw two strong packets from the ISS and only one made it
>>
>>
>>
>> Does the APRS-IS crush dup packets in a short time ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
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From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 20:52:12 2017
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 15:52:12 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
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Telling HDSDR to emulate (rtl dongle) a TS-2000 allows any program to
control it. PSTrotator, Satpc32, etc.

I use VSPmanager (free for hams) to handle the virtual serial ports necessary.

Flex 5000a can use the same work around. Not all programs will control
a Flex. Telling PowerSDR to emulate a TS-2000 allows the Doppler
correction to be set, along with basic xcvr control.

Best SDR? Nooelec. The one in the aluminum box works best related to
cost. Only downfall of the cheapie RTL's is that they drift with
temperature. The aluminum box handles EMI/temperature swings well
without a big investment.

Funcube dongles are pricy due to VAT. Nice, but not $200 worth of
improvement, compared to the Nooelec.

Ettus B210 is a great radio. A fair amount of building is necessary to
complete the project. Amp chips, power supplies, relays and the like.
Doable, but assembly requires a fair amount of time, materials and
energy.

All of them (except the Flex 5000a) are somewhat limited in the AGC department.

Norm n3ykf

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> HA!  Never thought of using them together.  Got it working with my
> generic RTL Dongle; so easy!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg  KO5TH
>
>
> fabrice faure wrote:
>> hello, you can use gpredict with gqrx to handle leo doppler with funcube
>> 73 de Fabrice F4HHV
>>
>> Le 13 ao?t 2017 18:23, "Paul Andrews" <w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>
>>> Has anyone written software to allow the Funcube Dongle to be
>>> frequency controlled to compensate for LEO satellite doppler?   For
>>> linear satellites, 1Hz frequency control would be required.   For FM
>>> 1KHz would be ok.   If it's not possible to control the actual FCD+
>>> LO, it should be possible to control the baseband audio spectrum.
>>>
>>> I first used the FCD+ as a panadapter with an FT-847 with LEO linear
>>> satellites.
>>>
>>> More recently, I use (dual polarization) two (2) Funcube Dongle Plus
>>> SDRs for 2M EME and they are sensitive wideband (50 KHz) receivers.
>>> Frequency stability on 144 MHz is very good and easily decode JT65
>>> signals bounced off the moon.   No doppler compensation is used for
>>> 144 MHz moon bounce.
>>>
>>> WSJT-X will control a commercial radio VFO to compensate for moon
>>> doppler.   WSJT-X does not support control the FCD+ for doppler
>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> The FCD+ is so widely used, I'm surprised that I have not found an
>>> application that will control the FCD+ and support doppler
>>> compensation.
>>>
>>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> With the proliferation of software defined radios on the market I am
>>> interested to hear what people think is the best for 137 / 144 / 440 / 1296
>>> MHz use.
>>>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>>>
>>>> It's 12 bits
>>>> It's got tracking filters
>>>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>>>
>>>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>>>
>>>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Aug 13 21:56:04 2017
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:56:04 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
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Hi Norm!

The best answer to the question is probably "it depends",
as there are many SDR devices that do well for different
purposes.



> Best SDR? Nooelec. The one in the aluminum box works best related to
> cost. Only downfall of the cheapie RTL's is that they drift with
> temperature. The aluminum box handles EMI/temperature swings well
> without a big investment.
>
>

?The cheapie Nooelec (or any of the RTL) dongles are the
best? Huh? Disagree. For receive-only situations, they can
do the job much of the time, but for some situations they
leave a lot to be desired. If price is the only concern, then
they would be the best - as in cheapest - SDR device.?




> Funcube dongles are pricy due to VAT. Nice, but not $200 worth of
> improvement, compared to the Nooelec.
>
>
?No VAT is assessed when those dongles are sold outside the
UK and European Union. You have to deal with currency
exchange rates as they ?are priced in pound sterling. Shipping
isn't horrible, as FCDs sent to the USA go via FedEx next-day
air service that is surprisingly inexpensive. For some
purposes, like being able to use the FoxTelem and FUNcube
Dashboard programs without needing to deal with virtual audio
cables etc. the FCD is a better option than a Nooelec dongle.

Another thing that the Nooelec (RTL) dongles lack is front-end
filtering. This was apparent to me when I tried using one as a
downlink receiver for SSB satellites, transmitting at no more
than 5 watts from an FT-817. The 817 would overload the Nooelec
dongles, and would not work properly until I stopped transmitting.
For working amateur satellites when I want to use an SDR receiver
on the downlink, I go with an FCD Pro+ or either version of the
SDRplay RSP receivers. All of these have front-end filtering that
can keep my 817s from interfering with hearing the downlinks. I
take care to never transmit on the band I'm receiving on with these
SDR receivers, and go through a 2m/70cm diplexer since my two-
radio setup connects to an Elk log periodic. I have used this at
home and on the road, working SSB satellites as well as copying
AO-85's downlink with both FM voice and data.

In terms of costs, the SDRplay RSP1 probably splits the difference
between the price of the Nooelec dongles and the FCD Pro+, available
from HRO in the US currently for $99.95. IMO it does a decent job. Not
the best SDR device on the market overall, but it is a viable option
for use with amateur satellites, and probably other satellites.
The SDRplay RSP2 comes in two versions - the Pro version comes in a
steel case for $192.95, and the non-pro RSP2 is in a plastic case
with a lining sprayed on the inside of the case for $169.95.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

From normanlizeth at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 22:24:43 2017
From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:24:43 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
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Thanks for your opinion! We all get one. Particularly if you've paid the $$$$.

Think I'll continue with today's mission: playing with my toys.

It's too nice a day to waste sending useless emails, comparing dirty
navel hair. Sunny, 75 degrees F no rain. It'd still be 95F if I were
in EL89.

Being retired rocks.

Today's play toys? Anritsu Sitemaster S113b and a pc (their line sweep
tools suite), outside with the antennas. Learning more about Phillip
Smith's chart and why he chose to make it sooooooo curvy.

Will be in your footprint next month.

Norm n3ykf

From w5rkn at w5rkn.com  Sun Aug 13 22:55:03 2017
From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:55:03 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
Message-ID: <3F2986F289194ED3B3635BEFE4D1FBD5@Ron8300PC>

I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than in the past?

Ron W5RKN

From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 23:13:15 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 16:13:15 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <3F2986F289194ED3B3635BEFE4D1FBD5@Ron8300PC>
References: <3F2986F289194ED3B3635BEFE4D1FBD5@Ron8300PC>
Message-ID: <14754102-22A3-4CE3-B73A-775C4093CF4A@gmail.com>

Not everyone runs QRO so sometimes you might have to turn up that audio gain a little. 

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Ronald G. Parsons <w5rkn at w5rkn.com> wrote:
> 
> I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than in the past?
> 
> Ron W5RKN
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From n0jy at amsat.org  Sun Aug 13 23:14:58 2017
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 18:14:58 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
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5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio equipment on the
VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all usually expect. 
5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for most voice) would be
about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is not equal to
bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud enough, not talking
into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food in the mic hole, etc.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
> I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than in the past?
>
> Ron W5RKN
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From nss at mwt.net  Sun Aug 13 23:18:10 2017
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 18:18:10 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
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Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
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On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
> 5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio equipment on the
> VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all usually expect.
> 5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for most voice) would be
> about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is not equal to
> bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
> Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud enough, not talking
> into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food in the mic hole, etc.
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>> I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than in the past?
>>
>> Ron W5RKN
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Sun Aug 13 23:25:16 2017
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:25:16 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <785fd0b6-841e-9206-8703-0a22035b8593@mwt.net>
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Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor mic technique than anything else.

- Matthew nj4y

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> 
> Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>> 5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio equipment on the
>> VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all usually expect.
>> 5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for most voice) would be
>> about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is not equal to
>> bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
>> Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud enough, not talking
>> into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food in the mic hole, etc.
>> 
>> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> 
>>> On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>> I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than in the past?
>>> 
>>> Ron W5RKN
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From smedbury at windstream.net  Sun Aug 13 23:29:41 2017
From: smedbury at windstream.net (Scott Medbury)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 18:29:41 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] QRV Roaming - CO, WY, SD
Message-ID: <000001d3148c$0a1ebd40$1e5c37c0$@net>

Beginning on August 20 thru August 26 I will be QRV from DM79, DN70, DN71,
DN72, DN62, DN73, DN74, DN83, DN84 on SO-50 and if I can AO-85. I will only
be using handheld radios and antennas. 

 

I am not sure where I will be and when except that I will be in Casper, WY,
at ground zero on Monday the 21st for the eclipse and Devil's Tower late on
the 21st possibly making late passes from the Devil's Tower monument.

 

Later in the week, I will be at Mt. Rushmore and Wind Cave National Parks
and several National Trails including Fort Laramie.

 

73 ..  Scott KD5FBA

 

 

 

 

 

Scott Medbury

KD5FBA

16802 Aprilmont Drive

Sugar Land, TX 77498-1941

 


From k8bl at ameritech.net  Mon Aug 14 00:33:37 2017
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:33:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <8A5B1039-1119-4F59-88ED-C883C043A06C@mrstevens.net>
References: <3F2986F289194ED3B3635BEFE4D1FBD5@Ron8300PC>
	<8ec6be0c-3bfd-fc80-5dac-a096dd11d2cb@amsat.org>
	<785fd0b6-841e-9206-8703-0a22035b8593@mwt.net>
	<8A5B1039-1119-4F59-88ED-C883C043A06C@mrstevens.net>
Message-ID: <1848079649.952706.1502670817516@mail.yahoo.com>

"...food in the mic hole, etc."!!! ?LOL!!! ?- Bob ?K8BL
      From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
 To: Joe <nss at mwt.net> 
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
 Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
   
Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor mic technique than anything else.

- Matthew nj4y

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> 
> Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>> 5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio equipment on the
>> VHF/UHF bands.? So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all usually expect.
>> 5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for most voice) would be
>> about 16 kHz bandwidth.? The deviation number alone is not equal to
>> bandwidth.? ("Carson's Rule")
>> Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud enough, not talking
>> into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food in the mic hole, etc.
>> 
>> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> 
>>> On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>> I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than in the past?
>>> 
>>> Ron W5RKN
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Mon Aug 14 00:44:35 2017
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:44:35 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CAJUhCTNhz4PvjNUZ4ZN-KgdZ1nq1VexoLXu5fgKVaxEq=wKmzA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
	<683e2e78-b366-39ee-b589-5192524dd7ba@gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTNKv8djCxwWLWNM6FfyeLS6ymCa-8kA4-ko6nS4vnzunQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUc5fahQxaHQz0kqOMBnYWbLHYZ8LgAFHUR9hAFpcEkM3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTNhz4PvjNUZ4ZN-KgdZ1nq1VexoLXu5fgKVaxEq=wKmzA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUczJXJQuHdaQFROMbmB5zkHW-EEXtLgBOww1xHC2cdecQ@mail.gmail.com>

?Norm,?


Thanks for your opinion! We all get one. Particularly if you've paid the
> $$$$.
>
> ?

?Nobody has to pay to have an opinion, of course. When it comes
to offering advice on using SDRs, in particular for ham satellite
downlinks, yes - I have paid a fair amount to try different
options. I wanted to try SDR for satellite downlinks, and went
through the process of trying different options. This required
some monetary investment, but I learned a lot for my own
satellite operations. It has also let me offer informed opinions
on different options I have tried.

I have to admit when I saw your bold pronouncement that the Nooelec
dongle was the best SDR, my initial reaction was laughter. Between
my own experiences and reading so many posts in different forums on
the disappointment in the performance of these dongles for ham
satellite downlinks, it was funny to see that. Unfortunately, someone
may see your post, try a Nooelec dongle as the downlink receiver to
work ham satellites, and come away frustrated when it doesn't perform
well.

Enjoy your nice weather, and your toys...





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK

From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Mon Aug 14 04:06:01 2017
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:06:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Takaishi City Central Public
	Hall, Takaishi City, Japan
Message-ID: <D1F22BA8375F49D3BEDFF415CF40E6DE@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Takaishi City Central Public Hall, Takaishi City, Japan on 14 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 10:37 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and 8N3NA. The contact should be audible over Japan and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

Takaishi city central public hall is located in the center of Takaishi city. We are ready to open the door of public hall to every school child. Almost all the boy and girls in Takaishi city are interested in nature, science and space.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. Why did you want to be an astronaut?

2. To be an astronaut how I spend my school days?

3. What experiment are you doing?

4. Are there any difficulties in space walking?

5. How do you feel in zero gravity?

6. Are the stars beautiful like we watch them from the earth?

7. Are the stars shining clearly?

8. What time do you usually get up and go to bed in space?

9. What color is the earth now?

10. How do you enjoy your life in zero gravity?

11. What kind of space food do you like? Taste good?

12. Can you take a break?  What do you do for fun?

13. What exercise are you doing to avoid weak bones?

14. What do you do on ISS?

15. How heavy is the space suit?

16. You are an astronaut now, you've changed a lot you used to be?

17. How do you sleep?

18. How does the earth look like?

19. Would you tell me your dreams?

20. Is the earth beautiful?

21. How do the butterflies and dragonflies fly in zero gravity?

22. Which do you eat a lot, in space or on the earth?

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

      1. Fleet Science Center, BE WISE  Program, San Diego, CA, direct via KJ6KDZ 

                   The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be NA1SS

                   The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA  

                   Contact is a go for: Sat 2017-08-19 16:44 UTC  

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From hb9wdf at bluewin.ch  Mon Aug 14 09:21:38 2017
From: hb9wdf at bluewin.ch (hb9wdf at bluewin.ch)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:21:38 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] My experiences from HB0
Message-ID: <625850829.12615.1502702498310.JavaMail.webmail@bluewin.ch>

I got many mails with the question, why HB0 is so rare on satellite. So here my experience from my last activation in this tiny country.
It was the second activation of HB0. My setup was a FT-100D / FT-817 combo, the Arrow Antenna and an 18Ah LiPo power pack. Before I went to Liechtenstein, I made several tests with the equipment from HB9. A day before my activation, I had a sked with Chris NK1K on FO-29. It was an success.
Liechtenstein is very difficult for satellite. The ground of the valley is 460 m ASL high, between 2-5km wide and about 25km long. The mountains around the valley are over 2000m ASL high and steep. The public places are rare and tiny. The solution for satellite operation is to go on the top of the mountain. For hiking, you need many hours o reach the top of the mountains. But there is a cable car (the only one in the summertime) and serves the mountain "Sareiserjoch", which is 2000m ASL high. The panoramic view from there is amazing. But still not the best place for satellite operation. There is a mountain in the north / west side, who take over 10 degrees of elevation. To high for the North Atlantic pass.
The service of the cable car is open only between 8am and 17pm. There is no mountain lodge for an over night stay. Camping in the higher mountains are difficult and can be dangerous for an one man expedition. I have no experiences in camping and dealing with the changing weather conditions in the higher mountains...
You see: The possibilities for HB0 on satellite are very limited.
Last Sunday I was ready at 8:30 am for start the activation from HB0. My first satellit was SO-50. I had a qso with J?r?me F4DXV - after that I was very surprised: many stations called CQ and no one got an answer each other. I had no pileup and heard my signal very clearly on the bird. I only had two qso on this pass.
After SO-50 I was qrv on AO-85. I met J?r?me again and - after the qso, I was the only one on this satellite who called. And AO-85 was in a very good shape. I think, that many stations don't understand the deal with doppler: On SO-50 they don't find the downlink, on AO-85 the uplink.
Then I had a sked with Chris NK1K on AO-7. The pass of AO-7 was at the edge of the mountain on the north / west side of my place. Most of the time, the satellite was a little bit behind the mount. I heard a very weak signal from Chris and no downlink from my own signal. Then I made a big misstake and powered up my TX to high. The LiPo got an overload and shutted down. For a reset I had to connect the power supply. But this device was still in Switzerland in my home on my shacktable. I was very frustrated.
I had a new idea: I went down with the cable car, jumped into my car and drove to Gaflei. Gaflei is only 1500m ASL high. But good enough for the passes in the west. I plugged my station at the car battery.
But the tiny parking lot crowded very fast. Many cars were around me. The DC cable was to short for a good position of my station. Consequently the activation on FO-29 was a disaster. I had a big pile up. But I got strong interferences and had problems to listening on my downlink. 
That was the reason why I stopped my activation and returned to my home. Yes, I was very frustrated at this time ...
Now I have plans to optimize my station. And I have a new contact to an OM in HB0. Maybe I get a better opportunity in the future.
73s Michael, hb9wdf

From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Aug 14 16:45:38 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:45:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Using DCI filters narrowband vs broadband
Message-ID: <af9ac500ff03ed56c69b319e42a8b326@mail.gmail.com>

Many people on AMSAT use DCI brand passband filters at their antennas to
cut down on front end overload and splatter from other services.    These
multi-resonator filters typically cover several MHz of bandwidth to cover
entire sections of the Amateur Bands and block things out of band..



When I asked if they could be tuned narrower with all resonators favoring
the same single frequency, their answer kept coming back YES, the bandwidth
is 500 kHz.  But they did not define what the ?bandwidth? meant.



Today, they sent me a revised spec sheet for their two meter filter when
tuned to a single frequency.  Now they fully specify what the bandwidth
is.  Here are the numbers:



- 3 dB  is 0.5 MHz

-20 dB is 1.25 MHz

-40 dB is 2.3 MHz

-60 dB is 4 MHz



This is useful information for those needing a single frequency filter.



Bob, WB4APR

From ppauly at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 17:17:10 2017
From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:17:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom combined RF gain and squelch knob
Message-ID: <CAKXfWbTXo381rqKbQB0fNs6V8zAxB5vF9AJ2KDGKJDB5E2H1aA@mail.gmail.com>

The Icom 910H and 9100 radios have a combined RF gain and squelch knob. The
choice of settings are:

1.  "rF/SqL"  RF gain and squelch controls are combined for SSB/CW mode.
Acts as squelch control for FM mode.

2.  "Auto"   Acts as a gain control in SSB/CW mode and a Squelch control in
FM mode.

3.  "SQL"   Acts as squelch control for all modes. RF gain is set to
maximum level in this setting.

I'm tempted to choose the last option which sets the RF gain at maximum.
The default is number 1. I'd like to find something that works without
adjustment when switching back and forth between FM and SSB satellites.
What option are you using?

From jerry.tuyls at telenet.be  Mon Aug 14 17:27:29 2017
From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be (jerry.tuyls at telenet.be)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:27:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <1848079649.952706.1502670817516@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <3F2986F289194ED3B3635BEFE4D1FBD5@Ron8300PC>
	<8ec6be0c-3bfd-fc80-5dac-a096dd11d2cb@amsat.org>
	<785fd0b6-841e-9206-8703-0a22035b8593@mwt.net>
	<8A5B1039-1119-4F59-88ED-C883C043A06C@mrstevens.net>
	<1848079649.952706.1502670817516@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1165542169.90891698.1502731649191.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>

Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85 passes about bad modulation to the same stations, but they DON'T listen.

Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my TS-790/FT-847.No narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.

And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink freq on sat qso's instead of the UPlink freq?
Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match due to wrong band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq etc, so i think the TX-freq is most important for logging sat'qso's and not the RX-freq? 

73's

Jerry,ON4CJQ




----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net>
Aan: "Matthew Stevens" <matthew at mrstevens.net>, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Verzonden: Maandag 14 augustus 2017 02:33:37
Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85

"...food in the mic hole, etc."!!! ?LOL!!! ?- Bob ?K8BL
      From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
 To: Joe <nss at mwt.net> 
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
 Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
   
Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor mic technique than anything else.

- Matthew nj4y

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> 
> Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>> 5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio equipment on the
>> VHF/UHF bands.? So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all usually expect.
>> 5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for most voice) would be
>> about 16 kHz bandwidth.? The deviation number alone is not equal to
>> bandwidth.? ("Carson's Rule")
>> Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud enough, not talking
>> into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food in the mic hole, etc.
>> 
>> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> 
>>> On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>> I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than in the past?
>>> 
>>> Ron W5RKN
>>> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From wb3csy at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 18:53:49 2017
From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:53:49 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUczJXJQuHdaQFROMbmB5zkHW-EEXtLgBOww1xHC2cdecQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
	<683e2e78-b366-39ee-b589-5192524dd7ba@gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTNKv8djCxwWLWNM6FfyeLS6ymCa-8kA4-ko6nS4vnzunQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUc5fahQxaHQz0kqOMBnYWbLHYZ8LgAFHUR9hAFpcEkM3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTNhz4PvjNUZ4ZN-KgdZ1nq1VexoLXu5fgKVaxEq=wKmzA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUczJXJQuHdaQFROMbmB5zkHW-EEXtLgBOww1xHC2cdecQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9F473DD3-5D07-4263-9DE1-A50213BA3F6D@gmail.com>

Great response Patrick. We all know you get what you pay for. Please continue telling us about your evaluations and experiences. I highly value your opinion and observations. I have a FCD Pro +, a SDR Play as well as the special dongle to receive the Outernet from the geosynchronous bird, and another dongle I currently use to send realtime Flight Aware data from my location. Keep up the good work. Please continue to share your valuable information, Patrick. 
73,
Rick - WB3CSY

Sent from Rick's iPhone 6S
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke

"Klaatu Barada Nikto" - The Day the Earth Stood Still
> 

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Mon Aug 14 19:05:55 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 05:05:55 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <9F473DD3-5D07-4263-9DE1-A50213BA3F6D@gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<CAOsf+NSFL+U=eQwYcThN0VJrafMeB-CcYknn2Wj-5vaWBRdnQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+4TZV8feHMA+h+B=eVPfMCrBudk-Sns6UJWm-1=MOLJv-Aynw@mail.gmail.com>
	<683e2e78-b366-39ee-b589-5192524dd7ba@gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTNKv8djCxwWLWNM6FfyeLS6ymCa-8kA4-ko6nS4vnzunQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUc5fahQxaHQz0kqOMBnYWbLHYZ8LgAFHUR9hAFpcEkM3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJUhCTNhz4PvjNUZ4ZN-KgdZ1nq1VexoLXu5fgKVaxEq=wKmzA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUczJXJQuHdaQFROMbmB5zkHW-EEXtLgBOww1xHC2cdecQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9F473DD3-5D07-4263-9DE1-A50213BA3F6D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D1CB67B-FB35-479A-9860-BAEBF418CB13@internode.on.net>

RTL-SDR - $30 8 bits 2 MHz sample subject to overload 
HackRF $280 - birdies but can TX and RX 10 MHz to 6 GHz - good for GNU Radio Playing 12 bits 20 MHz
SDR Play - $300 - Nice lots of filters a good allrounder - 
Airspy Mini - $200 Nice and compact medium perfromer
FCD Plus - $300 a winner on 2 meters and 70 centimetres

I would love to get my hands on a commercial SDR 

Andrew 





> On 15 Aug 2017, at 4:53 am, Rick Walter <wb3csy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Great response Patrick. We all know you get what you pay for. Please continue telling us about your evaluations and experiences. I highly value your opinion and observations. I have a FCD Pro +, a SDR Play as well as the special dongle to receive the Outernet from the geosynchronous bird, and another dongle I currently use to send realtime Flight Aware data from my location. Keep up the good work. Please continue to share your valuable information, Patrick. 
> 73,
> Rick - WB3CSY
> 
> Sent from Rick's iPhone 6S
> "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein
> 
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke
> 
> "Klaatu Barada Nikto" - The Day the Earth Stood Still
>> 
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Mon Aug 14 19:07:43 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 05:07:43 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Using DCI filters narrowband vs broadband
In-Reply-To: <af9ac500ff03ed56c69b319e42a8b326@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af9ac500ff03ed56c69b319e42a8b326@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8AB6B362-82D4-4839-8B6A-A3EE5FBB9156@internode.on.net>

I get pagers on 148 making birdies on an RTL-SDR on 144 MHz

Hoping the funcube will be better

A


> On 15 Aug 2017, at 2:45 am, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> 
> Many people on AMSAT use DCI brand passband filters at their antennas to
> cut down on front end overload and splatter from other services.    These
> multi-resonator filters typically cover several MHz of bandwidth to cover
> entire sections of the Amateur Bands and block things out of band..
> 
> 
> 
> When I asked if they could be tuned narrower with all resonators favoring
> the same single frequency, their answer kept coming back YES, the bandwidth
> is 500 kHz.  But they did not define what the ?bandwidth? meant.
> 
> 
> 
> Today, they sent me a revised spec sheet for their two meter filter when
> tuned to a single frequency.  Now they fully specify what the bandwidth
> is.  Here are the numbers:
> 
> 
> 
> - 3 dB  is 0.5 MHz
> 
> -20 dB is 1.25 MHz
> 
> -40 dB is 2.3 MHz
> 
> -60 dB is 4 MHz
> 
> 
> 
> This is useful information for those needing a single frequency filter.
> 
> 
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Mon Aug 14 19:09:52 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 05:09:52 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Reporter Upgrade added NO44 NO84
Message-ID: <DA2E35B3-6B0F-4A0B-942D-45262E4B62B6@internode.on.net>


Hello

Added in NO-44 and NO-88 

Cheers

http://59.167.159.165 <http://59.167.159.165/>



From ewpereira at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 20:08:17 2017
From: ewpereira at gmail.com (Edson W. R. Pereira)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 17:08:17 -0300
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <9D1CB67B-FB35-479A-9860-BAEBF418CB13@internode.on.net>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
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	<9D1CB67B-FB35-479A-9860-BAEBF418CB13@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CALNQy48EMqbknD-LSTyzAriS=CEgz+VM0GsBBzG5R2L79pHEmA@mail.gmail.com>

Rick's list is very good. I would also add LimeSDR as a good candidate (I
don't yet own one).

I have been using the RTL-SDR (original black one with the R820T chip),
RTL-SDR (Nooelec metal case with R820T2), RTL-SDR (blue with TCXO and
R820T2), Funcube Dongle Pro, Funcube Dongle Pro+ (FCD+) and SDRPlay RSP2.
The RTLs are "ok" for casual testing and signal hunting -- specially on the
bench. But their limited dynamic range, lack of band-pass filtering, high
noise figure and low ADC bit depth prevent using them in any serious
activity. I do however use the Nooelec for some 10 GHz experimentation
(with a LNBF). For monitoring satellites on VHF/UHF, I find the FCD+ the
best performer. The filtering, dynamic range and sensitivity is quite good.
The SDRPlay is also a very good performer, but it requires some careful
adjustments to perform as well as the FCD+.

73, Edson PY2SDR

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
wrote:

> RTL-SDR - $30 8 bits 2 MHz sample subject to overload
> HackRF $280 - birdies but can TX and RX 10 MHz to 6 GHz - good for GNU
> Radio Playing 12 bits 20 MHz
> SDR Play - $300 - Nice lots of filters a good allrounder -
> Airspy Mini - $200 Nice and compact medium perfromer
> FCD Plus - $300 a winner on 2 meters and 70 centimetres
>
> I would love to get my hands on a commercial SDR
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 15 Aug 2017, at 4:53 am, Rick Walter <wb3csy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great response Patrick. We all know you get what you pay for. Please
> continue telling us about your evaluations and experiences. I highly value
> your opinion and observations. I have a FCD Pro +, a SDR Play as well as
> the special dongle to receive the Outernet from the geosynchronous bird,
> and another dongle I currently use to send realtime Flight Aware data from
> my location. Keep up the good work. Please continue to share your valuable
> information, Patrick.
> > 73,
> > Rick - WB3CSY
> >
> > Sent from Rick's iPhone 6S
> > "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> minds" - Albert Einstein
> >
> > "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" -
> Arthur C. Clarke
> >
> > "Klaatu Barada Nikto" - The Day the Earth Stood Still
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From g.shirville at btinternet.com  Mon Aug 14 21:38:49 2017
From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 22:38:49 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <CALNQy48EMqbknD-LSTyzAriS=CEgz+VM0GsBBzG5R2L79pHEmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
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Message-ID: <c8c6c536-0557-a1c7-1e72-8f1a3221a739@btinternet.com>

Hi All,

I could possibly be seen as slightly biased but i agree with Edson!

I have tried a number of other SDRs (including an early LIme) and for 
satellite work, unless you need more than 192kHz bandwidth, the FCD+ 
still gets my vote. Its filtering is robust in almost any high QRM 
environment and it even seems to magically survive the odd unintentional 
burst of RF transmitted directly into it.

73

Graham

G3VZV


On 14/08/2017 21:08, Edson W. R. Pereira wrote:
> Rick's list is very good. I would also add LimeSDR as a good candidate (I
> don't yet own one).
>
> I have been using the RTL-SDR (original black one with the R820T chip),
> RTL-SDR (Nooelec metal case with R820T2), RTL-SDR (blue with TCXO and
> R820T2), Funcube Dongle Pro, Funcube Dongle Pro+ (FCD+) and SDRPlay RSP2.
> The RTLs are "ok" for casual testing and signal hunting -- specially on the
> bench. But their limited dynamic range, lack of band-pass filtering, high
> noise figure and low ADC bit depth prevent using them in any serious
> activity. I do however use the Nooelec for some 10 GHz experimentation
> (with a LNBF). For monitoring satellites on VHF/UHF, I find the FCD+ the
> best performer. The filtering, dynamic range and sensitivity is quite good.
> The SDRPlay is also a very good performer, but it requires some careful
> adjustments to perform as well as the FCD+.
>
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Mon Aug 14 22:27:07 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (vk4tec at internode.on.net)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 08:27:07 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <c8c6c536-0557-a1c7-1e72-8f1a3221a739@btinternet.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
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	<c8c6c536-0557-a1c7-1e72-8f1a3221a739@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <03db01d3154c$774932e0$65db98a0$@internode.on.net>

I am liking the AirSpy mini but will wait for the funcube dongle 

A

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Shirville [mailto:g.shirville at btinternet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2017 7:39 AM
To: Edson W. R. Pereira <ewpereira at gmail.com>; Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception

Hi All,

I could possibly be seen as slightly biased but i agree with Edson!

I have tried a number of other SDRs (including an early LIme) and for satellite work, unless you need more than 192kHz bandwidth, the FCD+ still gets my vote. Its filtering is robust in almost any high QRM environment and it even seems to magically survive the odd unintentional burst of RF transmitted directly into it.

73

Graham

G3VZV


On 14/08/2017 21:08, Edson W. R. Pereira wrote:
> Rick's list is very good. I would also add LimeSDR as a good candidate 
> (I don't yet own one).
>
> I have been using the RTL-SDR (original black one with the R820T 
> chip), RTL-SDR (Nooelec metal case with R820T2), RTL-SDR (blue with 
> TCXO and R820T2), Funcube Dongle Pro, Funcube Dongle Pro+ (FCD+) and SDRPlay RSP2.
> The RTLs are "ok" for casual testing and signal hunting -- specially 
> on the bench. But their limited dynamic range, lack of band-pass 
> filtering, high noise figure and low ADC bit depth prevent using them 
> in any serious activity. I do however use the Nooelec for some 10 GHz 
> experimentation (with a LNBF). For monitoring satellites on VHF/UHF, I 
> find the FCD+ the best performer. The filtering, dynamic range and sensitivity is quite good.
> The SDRPlay is also a very good performer, but it requires some 
> careful adjustments to perform as well as the FCD+.
>
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>


From drlnt at cox.net  Mon Aug 14 20:55:44 2017
From: drlnt at cox.net (Laura Tunnell)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:55:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
Message-ID: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>

What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?

 

 


From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 23:23:44 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:23:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>

I find a biped to work best with an arrow antenna. Works great for aiming and polarity matching. 

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From bryan at kl7cn.net  Mon Aug 14 23:33:56 2017
From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:33:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>

Mike's being funny. :)

I used to use a $10 tripod I got from the Goodwill. The main thing I appreciated about it was its ability to do axial rotation -- think: camera on its side. When the Arrow was attached, I would us that feature to rotate the Arrow along its axis.

Nowadays I do what Mike does: I hold the Arrow in my hand. It takes some time to become comfortable with holding the antenna correctly while adjusting for Doppler and pressing the mic button, but after some practice I found it to be the most efficient way. It's counterintuitive, but using your hand to orient the antenna is very fast and flexible.

-- bag

Bryan KL7CN/W6
Location: CM98, usually
E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net
Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 16:23, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I find a biped to work best with an arrow antenna. Works great for aiming and polarity matching. 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 23:46:45 2017
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:46:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKO=swfJ9Y1vkuNW1M1eSrT6bSBEC6bpy2UHsGNWk=n9OQ@mail.gmail.com>

I prefer holding the antenna myself but whatever you get make sure it's
heavy enough to not fall over from the weight of the antenna. You may need
a counterweight on the end of the antenna and/or something hung off the
inside center of the tripod if it has a hook to do that like some do.

You should know the back of the antenna boom has been tapped for the
standard tripod mount screw, however the boom doesnt provide a lot of
"depth" or threads to really hold it well. Some people clamp the boom to
their tripod for extra security.

The best tripod setup I've seen is the one John, K8YSE has.

I believe he had a DJ speaker stand (speaker tripod) and an extra half
arrow boom section from a backpacker Arrow stuck in his main arrow, with
the extra section stuck in a tube which was fixed to the tripod. The extra
section rotated inside the tube allowing for easy polarity switching. With
the antenna sticking out farther away from the tripod than it otherwise
would without the extra section, its elements didn't hit the tripod.

It was big though, so maybe not the best depending on your use case.

How do you plan to use it? On the back of your porch/in yard, roving, etc.
etc?

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Aug 14, 2017 7:20 PM, "Laura Tunnell" <drlnt at cox.net> wrote:

> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
>
>
>
>
>
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> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 00:14:40 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 17:14:40 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
Message-ID: <AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>

On a more serious note there are advantages to hand holding the Arrow even if it feels like you need to be an octopus to pull it off. There's a certain hand ear coordination that seems to come naturally when matching polarity by simply twisting your wrist. This advantage alone can be significant over fixed polarity or polarity matching by some mechanical means. The only time I would recommend a tripod is if there is some physical reason for not being able to hold it. 

Often times people go the tripod route because it seems like too many things are going on at once. One common pitfall is trying to log while a pass is in progress, usually on paper. A better solution is to record the audio for playback later. A simple voice recorder or even a smartphone works great. If using a voice recorder be sure to set the clock to UTC, timestamps will make logging a lot easier.

Another way to free up a hand is to use a boom mic headset with a foot switch for PTT. By doing this you free up your hand to operate the VFO(s).

Like Bryan pointed out, it can seem counterintuitive that holding the antenna can make things easier but when you evaluate the rest of your station you may find other ways to free yourself to aim.

If you find that there's just simply no way to operate without a tripod then maybe you can describe the difficulties you face. I've seen many clever designs, each with their own advantages and disadvantages making them each suitable to a different crowd. Let us know what you're looking to get out of a tripod setup, I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to share their solutions. 

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> 
> Mike's being funny. :)
> 
> I used to use a $10 tripod I got from the Goodwill. The main thing I appreciated about it was its ability to do axial rotation -- think: camera on its side. When the Arrow was attached, I would us that feature to rotate the Arrow along its axis.
> 
> Nowadays I do what Mike does: I hold the Arrow in my hand. It takes some time to become comfortable with holding the antenna correctly while adjusting for Doppler and pressing the mic button, but after some practice I found it to be the most efficient way. It's counterintuitive, but using your hand to orient the antenna is very fast and flexible.
> 
> -- bag
> 
> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> Location: CM98, usually
> E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net
> Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 16:23, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I find a biped to work best with an arrow antenna. Works great for aiming and polarity matching. 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Mike Diehl
>> AI6GS 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From ka6sip at aol.com  Tue Aug 15 00:49:58 2017
From: ka6sip at aol.com (Tom Deeble - KA6SIP)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:49:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Total Eclipse of the Sun Stamps
Message-ID: <15de35e5707-18de-2503a@webprd-m17.mail.aol.com>

Greetings,


This is a little off-subject but might be of interest to some.  I just found out about these stamps by accident.


The Total Eclipse of the Sun stamp is the first U.S. stamp to use thermochromic ink, which reacts to the heat of your touch. Placing your finger over the black disc on the stamp causes the ink to change from black to clear to reveal an underlying image of the moon. The image reverts back to the black disc once it cools. 



These stamps are really cool and I think may be a collectors item.  They are forever stamps and cost the standard 49 cents.  There is also a special sleeve available for 25 cents.  Hopefully everyone has clear weather for the eclipse - in just one week!


73 - Tom


Tom Deeble - KA6SIP,  ka6sip at aol.com
Mt. Diablo Amateur Radio Club Membership Chairman
MDARC, PO Box 23222, Pleasant Hill, CA  94523-0222
PACIFICON -  Oct 20-22, 2017, San Ramon



From k6fw1 at verizon.net  Tue Aug 15 01:27:41 2017
From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank Westphal)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:27:41 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <1165542169.90891698.1502731649191.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>
References: <3F2986F289194ED3B3635BEFE4D1FBD5@Ron8300PC>
	<8ec6be0c-3bfd-fc80-5dac-a096dd11d2cb@amsat.org>
	<785fd0b6-841e-9206-8703-0a22035b8593@mwt.net>
	<8A5B1039-1119-4F59-88ED-C883C043A06C@mrstevens.net>
	<1848079649.952706.1502670817516@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1165542169.90891698.1502731649191.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>
Message-ID: <b1194309-49ec-f17a-b169-7995500bd247@verizon.net>

I use LOGIC 9 and it uploads the downlink frequency.  I enter both 
uplink and downlink frequencies into the logging program LOCIC 9.  I 
receive lots of matches and that seems to be the accepted convention.  I 
know ARRL suggests uploading the uplink frequency in their 
documentation.  LOGIC 9 does not follow that recommendation and from my 
experience most other sat operators are not either.

YMMV

73,
Frank
K6FW

On 8/14/17 10:27 AM, jerry.tuyls at telenet.be wrote:
> Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85 passes about bad modulation to the same stations, but they DON'T listen.
>
> Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my TS-790/FT-847.No narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.
>
> And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink freq on sat qso's instead of the UPlink freq?
> Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match due to wrong band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq etc, so i think the TX-freq is most important for logging sat'qso's and not the RX-freq?
>
> 73's
>
> Jerry,ON4CJQ
>
>
>
>
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net>
> Aan: "Matthew Stevens" <matthew at mrstevens.net>, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
> Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Verzonden: Maandag 14 augustus 2017 02:33:37
> Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>
> "...food in the mic hole, etc."!!!  LOL!!!  - Bob  K8BL
>        From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
>   To: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>   Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
>   Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>     
> Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor mic technique than anything else.
>
> - Matthew nj4y
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>
>> Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>>> 5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio equipment on the
>>> VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all usually expect.
>>> 5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for most voice) would be
>>> about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is not equal to
>>> bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
>>> Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud enough, not talking
>>> into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food in the mic hole, etc.
>>>
>>> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>>>
>>>> On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>>> I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than in the past?
>>>>
>>>> Ron W5RKN
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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>
>     
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>
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Aug 15 01:30:32 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:30:32 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <b1194309-49ec-f17a-b169-7995500bd247@verizon.net>
References: <3F2986F289194ED3B3635BEFE4D1FBD5@Ron8300PC>
	<8ec6be0c-3bfd-fc80-5dac-a096dd11d2cb@amsat.org>
	<785fd0b6-841e-9206-8703-0a22035b8593@mwt.net>
	<8A5B1039-1119-4F59-88ED-C883C043A06C@mrstevens.net>
	<1848079649.952706.1502670817516@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1165542169.90891698.1502731649191.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>
	<b1194309-49ec-f17a-b169-7995500bd247@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOryY73riagUd3HRtj_bEkLb1=Xsh+4OTy0ohbxW3bj9Hg@mail.gmail.com>

The convention in logging split band or mode QSOs is to use what band or
mode you're transmitting on.

That said, LoTW doesn't care about the frequencies if the propagation mode
is set to 'SAT'

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net> wrote:

> I use LOGIC 9 and it uploads the downlink frequency.  I enter both uplink
> and downlink frequencies into the logging program LOCIC 9.  I receive lots
> of matches and that seems to be the accepted convention.  I know ARRL
> suggests uploading the uplink frequency in their documentation.  LOGIC 9
> does not follow that recommendation and from my experience most other sat
> operators are not either.
>
> YMMV
>
> 73,
> Frank
> K6FW
>
>
> On 8/14/17 10:27 AM, jerry.tuyls at telenet.be wrote:
>
>> Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85 passes about
>> bad modulation to the same stations, but they DON'T listen.
>>
>> Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my
>> TS-790/FT-847.No narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.
>>
>> And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink freq on sat
>> qso's instead of the UPlink freq?
>> Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match due to wrong
>> band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq etc, so i think the TX-freq
>> is most important for logging sat'qso's and not the RX-freq?
>>
>> 73's
>>
>> Jerry,ON4CJQ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> Van: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net>
>> Aan: "Matthew Stevens" <matthew at mrstevens.net>, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
>> Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Verzonden: Maandag 14 augustus 2017 02:33:37
>> Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>>
>> "...food in the mic hole, etc."!!!  LOL!!!  - Bob  K8BL
>>        From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
>>   To: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>>     Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor mic
>> technique than anything else.
>>
>> - Matthew nj4y
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>
>>>> On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>>>> 5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio equipment on the
>>>> VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all usually expect.
>>>> 5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for most voice) would be
>>>> about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is not equal to
>>>> bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
>>>> Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud enough, not talking
>>>> into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food in the mic hole,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>>>>
>>>> On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>>>> I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible
>>>>> modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have
>>>>> heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their
>>>>> maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on
>>>>> local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for
>>>>> reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than
>>>>> in the past?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron W5RKN
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>> program!
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>>>>
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
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From k6fw1 at verizon.net  Tue Aug 15 01:42:06 2017
From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank Westphal)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:42:06 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOryY73riagUd3HRtj_bEkLb1=Xsh+4OTy0ohbxW3bj9Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3F2986F289194ED3B3635BEFE4D1FBD5@Ron8300PC>
	<8ec6be0c-3bfd-fc80-5dac-a096dd11d2cb@amsat.org>
	<785fd0b6-841e-9206-8703-0a22035b8593@mwt.net>
	<8A5B1039-1119-4F59-88ED-C883C043A06C@mrstevens.net>
	<1848079649.952706.1502670817516@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1165542169.90891698.1502731649191.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>
	<b1194309-49ec-f17a-b169-7995500bd247@verizon.net>
	<CABzOSOryY73riagUd3HRtj_bEkLb1=Xsh+4OTy0ohbxW3bj9Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b2b67c84-3b47-aefb-0b54-4684bd0dda60@verizon.net>

My experience with LOTW and SAT QSO's is the frequency does matter.  I 
have had to fool my logging program to upload the uplink frequency to 
get a match on a rare occasion.  N5JB's guide to LOTW and satellite 
QSO's says 7 items must match to get a satellite verification in LOTW.  
Only 5 items need to match for a non-satellite QSO.

73,
Frank
K6FW

On 8/14/17 6:30 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> The convention in logging split band or mode QSOs is to use what band 
> or mode you're transmitting on.
>
> That said, LoTW doesn't care about the frequencies if the propagation 
> mode is set to 'SAT'
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net 
> <mailto:k6fw1 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
>     I use LOGIC 9 and it uploads the downlink frequency.  I enter both
>     uplink and downlink frequencies into the logging program LOCIC 9. 
>     I receive lots of matches and that seems to be the accepted
>     convention.  I know ARRL suggests uploading the uplink frequency
>     in their documentation.  LOGIC 9 does not follow that
>     recommendation and from my experience most other sat operators are
>     not either.
>
>     YMMV
>
>     73,
>     Frank
>     K6FW
>
>
>     On 8/14/17 10:27 AM, jerry.tuyls at telenet.be
>     <mailto:jerry.tuyls at telenet.be> wrote:
>
>         Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85
>         passes about bad modulation to the same stations, but they
>         DON'T listen.
>
>         Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my
>         TS-790/FT-847.No narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.
>
>         And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink
>         freq on sat qso's instead of the UPlink freq?
>         Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match
>         due to wrong band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq
>         etc, so i think the TX-freq is most important for logging
>         sat'qso's and not the RX-freq?
>
>         73's
>
>         Jerry,ON4CJQ
>
>
>
>
>         ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>         Van: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net <mailto:k8bl at ameritech.net>>
>         Aan: "Matthew Stevens" <matthew at mrstevens.net
>         <mailto:matthew at mrstevens.net>>, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net
>         <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>         Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>>
>         Verzonden: Maandag 14 augustus 2017 02:33:37
>         Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>
>         "...food in the mic hole, etc."!!!  LOL!!!  - Bob K8BL
>                From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net
>         <mailto:matthew at mrstevens.net>>
>           To: Joe <nss at mwt.net <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>         Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>           Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
>           Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>             Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor
>         mic technique than anything else.
>
>         - Matthew nj4y
>
>         Sent from my iPad
>
>             On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net
>             <mailto:nss at mwt.net>> wrote:
>
>             Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
>             Joe WB9SBD
>             Sig
>             The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>             Idle Tyme
>             Idle-Tyme.com
>             http://www.idle-tyme.com
>
>                 On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>                 5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio
>                 equipment on the
>                 VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all
>                 usually expect.
>                 5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for
>                 most voice) would be
>                 about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is
>                 not equal to
>                 bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
>                 Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud
>                 enough, not talking
>                 into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food
>                 in the mic hole, etc.
>
>                 Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
>                     On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>                     I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85
>                     have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations
>                     have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard
>                     the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile
>                     rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz
>                     or even less. I have noticed the same effect on
>                     local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the
>                     deviation required for reasonable quieting on
>                     AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than
>                     in the past?
>
>                     Ron W5RKN
>                     _______________________________________________
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>                     open forum available
>                     to all interested persons worldwide without
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>                     the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>
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From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 02:14:02 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:14:02 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
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I'm not entirely convinced of that. I have at least a dozen QSLs in LOTW that have no frequency for both the up and downlink. However, as we all know, LOTW does have some "undocumented features". Maybe there's some corner case where it does matter but I haven't ran into it yet. 

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> My experience with LOTW and SAT QSO's is the frequency does matter.  I have had to fool my logging program to upload the uplink frequency to get a match on a rare occasion.  N5JB's guide to LOTW and satellite QSO's says 7 items must match to get a satellite verification in LOTW.  Only 5 items need to match for a non-satellite QSO.
> 
> 73,
> Frank
> K6FW
> 
>> On 8/14/17 6:30 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>> The convention in logging split band or mode QSOs is to use what band or mode you're transmitting on.
>> 
>> That said, LoTW doesn't care about the frequencies if the propagation mode is set to 'SAT'
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Paul, N8HM
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net <mailto:k6fw1 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>    I use LOGIC 9 and it uploads the downlink frequency.  I enter both
>>    uplink and downlink frequencies into the logging program LOCIC 9.     I receive lots of matches and that seems to be the accepted
>>    convention.  I know ARRL suggests uploading the uplink frequency
>>    in their documentation.  LOGIC 9 does not follow that
>>    recommendation and from my experience most other sat operators are
>>    not either.
>> 
>>    YMMV
>> 
>>    73,
>>    Frank
>>    K6FW
>> 
>> 
>>    On 8/14/17 10:27 AM, jerry.tuyls at telenet.be
>>    <mailto:jerry.tuyls at telenet.be> wrote:
>> 
>>        Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85
>>        passes about bad modulation to the same stations, but they
>>        DON'T listen.
>> 
>>        Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my
>>        TS-790/FT-847.No narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.
>> 
>>        And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink
>>        freq on sat qso's instead of the UPlink freq?
>>        Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match
>>        due to wrong band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq
>>        etc, so i think the TX-freq is most important for logging
>>        sat'qso's and not the RX-freq?
>> 
>>        73's
>> 
>>        Jerry,ON4CJQ
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>        <mailto:matthew at mrstevens.net>>, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net
>>        <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>>        Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>>
>>        Verzonden: Maandag 14 augustus 2017 02:33:37
>>        Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>> 
>>        "...food in the mic hole, etc."!!!  LOL!!!  - Bob K8BL
>>               From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net
>>        <mailto:matthew at mrstevens.net>>
>>          To: Joe <nss at mwt.net <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>>        Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>          Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
>>          Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>>            Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor
>>        mic technique than anything else.
>> 
>>        - Matthew nj4y
>> 
>>        Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>            On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net
>>            <mailto:nss at mwt.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>            Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
>>            Joe WB9SBD
>>            Sig
>>            The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>            Idle Tyme
>>            Idle-Tyme.com
>>            http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> 
>>                On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>>                5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio
>>                equipment on the
>>                VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all
>>                usually expect.
>>                5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for
>>                most voice) would be
>>                about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is
>>                not equal to
>>                bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
>>                Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud
>>                enough, not talking
>>                into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food
>>                in the mic hole, etc.
>> 
>>                Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> 
>>                    On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>                    I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85
>>                    have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations
>>                    have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard
>>                    the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile
>>                    rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz
>>                    or even less. I have noticed the same effect on
>>                    local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the
>>                    deviation required for reasonable quieting on
>>                    AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than
>>                    in the past?
>> 
>>                    Ron W5RKN
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Tue Aug 15 02:27:04 2017
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 22:27:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
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I've had a few match even though I accidentally uploaded a "20m" SAT qso because my logger autofilled the band field incorrectly lol.

In the few cases I couldn't get a match because of some unknown hiccup in LOTW, I have just changed the qso time by a minute or two (so lotw recognized it as a different qso record), reuploaded and got a match. 

Most of the satellite lotw info I've read online has mentioned several adif fields that don't seem to make a difference. In my experience, only the callsign,gh SAT mode, satellite name, time, and mode (FM, SSB etc) have to match. Ymmv.

73

- Matthew nj4y

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 21:42, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> My experience with LOTW and SAT QSO's is the frequency does matter.  I have had to fool my logging program to upload the uplink frequency to get a match on a rare occasion.  N5JB's guide to LOTW and satellite QSO's says 7 items must match to get a satellite verification in LOTW.  Only 5 items need to match for a non-satellite QSO.
> 
> 73,
> Frank
> K6FW
> 
>> On 8/14/17 6:30 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>> The convention in logging split band or mode QSOs is to use what band or mode you're transmitting on.
>> 
>> That said, LoTW doesn't care about the frequencies if the propagation mode is set to 'SAT'
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Paul, N8HM
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net <mailto:k6fw1 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>    I use LOGIC 9 and it uploads the downlink frequency.  I enter both
>>    uplink and downlink frequencies into the logging program LOCIC 9.     I receive lots of matches and that seems to be the accepted
>>    convention.  I know ARRL suggests uploading the uplink frequency
>>    in their documentation.  LOGIC 9 does not follow that
>>    recommendation and from my experience most other sat operators are
>>    not either.
>> 
>>    YMMV
>> 
>>    73,
>>    Frank
>>    K6FW
>> 
>> 
>>    On 8/14/17 10:27 AM, jerry.tuyls at telenet.be
>>    <mailto:jerry.tuyls at telenet.be> wrote:
>> 
>>        Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85
>>        passes about bad modulation to the same stations, but they
>>        DON'T listen.
>> 
>>        Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my
>>        TS-790/FT-847.No narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.
>> 
>>        And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink
>>        freq on sat qso's instead of the UPlink freq?
>>        Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match
>>        due to wrong band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq
>>        etc, so i think the TX-freq is most important for logging
>>        sat'qso's and not the RX-freq?
>> 
>>        73's
>> 
>>        Jerry,ON4CJQ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>        ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>>        Van: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl at ameritech.net <mailto:k8bl at ameritech.net>>
>>        Aan: "Matthew Stevens" <matthew at mrstevens.net
>>        <mailto:matthew at mrstevens.net>>, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net
>>        <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>>        Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>>
>>        Verzonden: Maandag 14 augustus 2017 02:33:37
>>        Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>> 
>>        "...food in the mic hole, etc."!!!  LOL!!!  - Bob K8BL
>>               From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net
>>        <mailto:matthew at mrstevens.net>>
>>          To: Joe <nss at mwt.net <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>>        Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>          Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
>>          Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>>            Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor
>>        mic technique than anything else.
>> 
>>        - Matthew nj4y
>> 
>>        Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>            On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net
>>            <mailto:nss at mwt.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>            Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
>>            Joe WB9SBD
>>            Sig
>>            The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>            Idle Tyme
>>            Idle-Tyme.com
>>            http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> 
>>                On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>>                5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio
>>                equipment on the
>>                VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all
>>                usually expect.
>>                5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for
>>                most voice) would be
>>                about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is
>>                not equal to
>>                bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
>>                Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud
>>                enough, not talking
>>                into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food
>>                in the mic hole, etc.
>> 
>>                Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>> 
>>                    On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>                    I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85
>>                    have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations
>>                    have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard
>>                    the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile
>>                    rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz
>>                    or even less. I have noticed the same effect on
>>                    local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the
>>                    deviation required for reasonable quieting on
>>                    AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than
>>                    in the past?
>> 
>>                    Ron W5RKN
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From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Tue Aug 15 02:47:21 2017
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:47:21 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
Message-ID: <002101d31570$d5a028c0$80e07a40$@net>

The issue with quieting vs. Modulation level is that if a station has enough
power to do full quieting FM into the AO-85 bent pipe, than even if he is a
weak talker, or his radio has low modulation gain, he will be heard because
the background noise is minimal.   Having enough power to get to that point
is a good thing, but there are many stations, like myself sometimes, that
are using HTs for uplink and downlink.  5 watts, not the right transmit
polarization and a slightly deaf RX on AO-85 due to an antenna not quite
what it should've been (Documented shortly after AO-85 launch) and you have
a number of things lined up against you.   This presents a situation where
this combination results with a station barely coming through the noise and
thus being hard to hear.  Again remember that AO-85 is a bent pipe after it
is tuned on via hearing a station transmitting a 67 Hz tone so that is why
you can hear FM noise through it when no RX of uplink signal is present.  It
has no squelch to prevent weak signals from getting through.  

I have a little Chinese radio that definitely even on "Wide" mode, is
quieter than another radio I own.  Most HT's give no option to adjust this
value.  Yelling into these radios does not help as they seem to have some
level of high signal limiting or compression, as simple as plane old peak
clipping.  I know that Yaesu does allow for mic gain adjustments on some of
their Fusion radios but most FM only handhelds have no option for fine
tuning.

My suggestion to little pistols like myself (When learning to work FM
satellites like AO-85), is to just not try during a busy pass but wait for a
lesser trafficked pass so you can learn how best to manipulate your
transmitting circumstances to hear yourself and be heard.  

Jerry Buxton, the Fox series daddy, assures us that the newer iterations of
the AMSAT Fox birds will have a little better ears and hopefully that will
help immensely.  

Have patience with the little guys.  You probably were one once yourself.

Tom Schuessler
n5hyp at arrl.net


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:27:29 +0200 (CEST)
From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
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Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85 passes about bad
modulation to the same stations, but they DON'T listen.

Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my TS-790/FT-847.No
narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.

And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink freq on sat qso's
instead of the UPlink freq?
Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match due to wrong
band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq etc, so i think the TX-freq
is most important for logging sat'qso's and not the RX-freq? 

73's

Jerry,ON4CJQ






From awhitney42 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 15 02:51:02 2017
From: awhitney42 at yahoo.com (Adam Whitney)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:51:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <58B7F739-C77F-46C0-B7AE-7A504C5BE39B@mrstevens.net>
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	<1165542169.90891698.1502731649191.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>
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K7TAB shared this link with me awhile back, which describes the fields/logic that LOTW purportedly uses to match: https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/frequently-asked-questions/#datamatch

Adam, K0FFY

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 21:27, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net> wrote:
> 
> I've had a few match even though I accidentally uploaded a "20m" SAT qso because my logger autofilled the band field incorrectly lol.
> 
> In the few cases I couldn't get a match because of some unknown hiccup in LOTW, I have just changed the qso time by a minute or two (so lotw recognized it as a different qso record), reuploaded and got a match. 
> 
> Most of the satellite lotw info I've read online has mentioned several adif fields that don't seem to make a difference. In my experience, only the callsign,gh SAT mode, satellite name, time, and mode (FM, SSB etc) have to match. Ymmv.
> 
> 73
> 
> - Matthew nj4y
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 21:42, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> My experience with LOTW and SAT QSO's is the frequency does matter.  I have had to fool my logging program to upload the uplink frequency to get a match on a rare occasion.  N5JB's guide to LOTW and satellite QSO's says 7 items must match to get a satellite verification in LOTW.  Only 5 items need to match for a non-satellite QSO.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Frank
>> K6FW
>> 
>>> On 8/14/17 6:30 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>> The convention in logging split band or mode QSOs is to use what band or mode you're transmitting on.
>>> 
>>> That said, LoTW doesn't care about the frequencies if the propagation mode is set to 'SAT'
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net <mailto:k6fw1 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I use LOGIC 9 and it uploads the downlink frequency.  I enter both
>>>   uplink and downlink frequencies into the logging program LOCIC 9.     I receive lots of matches and that seems to be the accepted
>>>   convention.  I know ARRL suggests uploading the uplink frequency
>>>   in their documentation.  LOGIC 9 does not follow that
>>>   recommendation and from my experience most other sat operators are
>>>   not either.
>>> 
>>>   YMMV
>>> 
>>>   73,
>>>   Frank
>>>   K6FW
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On 8/14/17 10:27 AM, jerry.tuyls at telenet.be
>>>   <mailto:jerry.tuyls at telenet.be> wrote:
>>> 
>>>       Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85
>>>       passes about bad modulation to the same stations, but they
>>>       DON'T listen.
>>> 
>>>       Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my
>>>       TS-790/FT-847.No narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.
>>> 
>>>       And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink
>>>       freq on sat qso's instead of the UPlink freq?
>>>       Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match
>>>       due to wrong band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq
>>>       etc, so i think the TX-freq is most important for logging
>>>       sat'qso's and not the RX-freq?
>>> 
>>>       73's
>>> 
>>>       Jerry,ON4CJQ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>>       <mailto:matthew at mrstevens.net>>, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net
>>>       <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>>>       Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>>
>>>       Verzonden: Maandag 14 augustus 2017 02:33:37
>>>       Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>>> 
>>>       "...food in the mic hole, etc."!!!  LOL!!!  - Bob K8BL
>>>              From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net
>>>       <mailto:matthew at mrstevens.net>>
>>>         To: Joe <nss at mwt.net <mailto:nss at mwt.net>>
>>>       Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>>         Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
>>>         Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>>>           Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor
>>>       mic technique than anything else.
>>> 
>>>       - Matthew nj4y
>>> 
>>>       Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>           On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net
>>>           <mailto:nss at mwt.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>           Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
>>>           Joe WB9SBD
>>>           Sig
>>>           The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>           Idle Tyme
>>>           Idle-Tyme.com
>>>           http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> 
>>>               On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>>>               5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio
>>>               equipment on the
>>>               VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all
>>>               usually expect.
>>>               5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for
>>>               most voice) would be
>>>               about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is
>>>               not equal to
>>>               bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
>>>               Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud
>>>               enough, not talking
>>>               into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food
>>>               in the mic hole, etc.
>>> 
>>>               Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>>> 
>>>                   On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>>                   I?ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85
>>>                   have barely audible modulation. Yet other stations
>>>                   have clear audio with good quieting. I have heard
>>>                   the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile
>>>                   rigs are setting their maximum deviation to 5 kHz
>>>                   or even less. I have noticed the same effect on
>>>                   local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the
>>>                   deviation required for reasonable quieting on
>>>                   AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than
>>>                   in the past?
>>> 
>>>                   Ron W5RKN
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Tue Aug 15 03:06:04 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:06:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <002101d31570$d5a028c0$80e07a40$@net>
References: <002101d31570$d5a028c0$80e07a40$@net>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNLeqazTrpOvs3QE3vcOaDyN6drkrCq1uHJ4kZL-3QnyGA@mail.gmail.com>

> if a station has enough power to do full quieting FM...
>, than even if he is a weak talker, or his radio has low
> modulation gain, he will be heard because
> the background noise is minimal.

Push my button...!.  <rant on>

Though my rant is more applicable to what I hear on repeaters every day...

I will not hear him.  I adjust my volume for the least pain to my ears and
this means a proper setting for all the other users that are -properly-
modulating.  Then a  weak modulation signal comes in 10 to 20 dB down and
while driving or operating via satellites, I dont have enough thumbs to
adjust to make up for this persons inconsiderate operating level.

Plus, I dont drive anyting close to a luxury car.  The volume is also set
above the road noise and just below the pain level.  That range is narrow.
I only hear those properly modulated.

But what is interesting, when I comment on someone's low moddulation, sure
enough, some expert, sitting in his shack with an ambient noise level at
least 30 dB less than what I am hearing in my car will say, "sounds fine
here".  And the offender never gets the message that he is just not worth
hearing in the mobile (or via the satellite).

This is NOT a comment on the current thread, but the topic of modulation
levels allowed me to crawl out from under my rock and vent at a 50 year
frustration since FM repeaters came around in the 70's.  And my hearing is
NOT getting any better.. just worse.

Your mileage may vary.

<rant off>

Bob, WB4APR

From matthew at mrstevens.net  Tue Aug 15 03:10:09 2017
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:10:09 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <002101d31570$d5a028c0$80e07a40$@net>
References: <002101d31570$d5a028c0$80e07a40$@net>
Message-ID: <9DEC8431-FF76-4C7C-92D8-2E10956172C4@mrstevens.net>

I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about. There's a big difference between not fully capturing the repeater due to low power or mismatched polarity, and having low audio.

I've heard many stations who were fully capturing the repeater (no noise on their signal) yet were barely copyable because it sounded like they were holding the mic 10 feet from their mouth. On the other hand, I've also heard lots of stations with less than perfect, scratchy signals who had fine modulation and were plenty loud.

As Jerry Buxton said earlier in this thread...If you've got a quiet signal, the first place I would look is your mic and mic settings.

73,
- Matthew nj4y

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 22:47, Tom Schuessler <tjschuessler at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> The issue with quieting vs. Modulation level is that if a station has enough
> power to do full quieting FM into the AO-85 bent pipe, than even if he is a
> weak talker, or his radio has low modulation gain, he will be heard because
> the background noise is minimal.   Having enough power to get to that point
> is a good thing, but there are many stations, like myself sometimes, that
> are using HTs for uplink and downlink.  5 watts, not the right transmit
> polarization and a slightly deaf RX on AO-85 due to an antenna not quite
> what it should've been (Documented shortly after AO-85 launch) and you have
> a number of things lined up against you.   This presents a situation where
> this combination results with a station barely coming through the noise and
> thus being hard to hear.  Again remember that AO-85 is a bent pipe after it
> is tuned on via hearing a station transmitting a 67 Hz tone so that is why
> you can hear FM noise through it when no RX of uplink signal is present.  It
> has no squelch to prevent weak signals from getting through.  
> 
> I have a little Chinese radio that definitely even on "Wide" mode, is
> quieter than another radio I own.  Most HT's give no option to adjust this
> value.  Yelling into these radios does not help as they seem to have some
> level of high signal limiting or compression, as simple as plane old peak
> clipping.  I know that Yaesu does allow for mic gain adjustments on some of
> their Fusion radios but most FM only handhelds have no option for fine
> tuning.
> 
> My suggestion to little pistols like myself (When learning to work FM
> satellites like AO-85), is to just not try during a busy pass but wait for a
> lesser trafficked pass so you can learn how best to manipulate your
> transmitting circumstances to hear yourself and be heard.  
> 
> Jerry Buxton, the Fox series daddy, assures us that the newer iterations of
> the AMSAT Fox birds will have a little better ears and hopefully that will
> help immensely.  
> 
> Have patience with the little guys.  You probably were one once yourself.
> 
> Tom Schuessler
> n5hyp at arrl.net
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:27:29 +0200 (CEST)
> From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be
> To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
> Message-ID:
>    <1165542169.90891698.1502731649191.JavaMail.zimbra at telenet.be>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85 passes about bad
> modulation to the same stations, but they DON'T listen.
> 
> Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my TS-790/FT-847.No
> narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.
> 
> And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink freq on sat qso's
> instead of the UPlink freq?
> Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match due to wrong
> band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq etc, so i think the TX-freq
> is most important for logging sat'qso's and not the RX-freq? 
> 
> 73's
> 
> Jerry,ON4CJQ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From dougg27 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 15 00:37:28 2017
From: dougg27 at hotmail.com (Doug Andrews)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 00:37:28 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
Message-ID: <CO2PR06MB697B3226339FA2CB2947DF3B48D0@CO2PR06MB697.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

The one time I used a tripod it collapsed causing the coax to act like a whip launching the radio to the ground.

That said, a regular camera tripod should work.

73



.- ..-. --... --.. --.-


-------- Original message --------
From: Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net>
Date: 8/14/17 1:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna

What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?





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From julianhorn at clara.co.uk  Tue Aug 15 06:40:28 2017
From: julianhorn at clara.co.uk (Julian Horn (Clara))
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:40:28 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
	<AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <99C00D38-14CE-4319-9F50-77D89EC49644@clara.co.uk>

Apologies if this is a dumb question, but it is from a relative newcomer to this field . . . :)
Has any research been carried out on the (medical) safety of hand-held antennas such as the Arrow whilst transmitting?
I understand the power is relatively low, but unlike say a mobile (cell) phone, average power I imagine will be much higher?
Are there any measurements of field strength this close to the driven element and any assessments of the risks?

73, Julian M0NUX



> On 15 Aug 2017, at 01:14, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On a more serious note there are advantages to hand holding the Arrow even if it feels like you need to be an octopus to pull it off. There's a certain hand ear coordination that seems to come naturally when matching polarity by simply twisting your wrist. This advantage alone can be significant over fixed polarity or polarity matching by some mechanical means. The only time I would recommend a tripod is if there is some physical reason for not being able to hold it. 
> 
> Often times people go the tripod route because it seems like too many things are going on at once. One common pitfall is trying to log while a pass is in progress, usually on paper. A better solution is to record the audio for playback later. A simple voice recorder or even a smartphone works great. If using a voice recorder be sure to set the clock to UTC, timestamps will make logging a lot easier.
> 
> Another way to free up a hand is to use a boom mic headset with a foot switch for PTT. By doing this you free up your hand to operate the VFO(s).
> 
> Like Bryan pointed out, it can seem counterintuitive that holding the antenna can make things easier but when you evaluate the rest of your station you may find other ways to free yourself to aim.
> 
> If you find that there's just simply no way to operate without a tripod then maybe you can describe the difficulties you face. I've seen many clever designs, each with their own advantages and disadvantages making them each suitable to a different crowd. Let us know what you're looking to get out of a tripod setup, I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to share their solutions. 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Mike's being funny. :)
>> 
>> I used to use a $10 tripod I got from the Goodwill. The main thing I appreciated about it was its ability to do axial rotation -- think: camera on its side. When the Arrow was attached, I would us that feature to rotate the Arrow along its axis.
>> 
>> Nowadays I do what Mike does: I hold the Arrow in my hand. It takes some time to become comfortable with holding the antenna correctly while adjusting for Doppler and pressing the mic button, but after some practice I found it to be the most efficient way. It's counterintuitive, but using your hand to orient the antenna is very fast and flexible.
>> 
>> -- bag
>> 
>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>> Location: CM98, usually
>> E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net
>> Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 16:23, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find a biped to work best with an arrow antenna. Works great for aiming and polarity matching. 
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Mike Diehl
>>> AI6GS 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From jbr13 at md.metrocast.net  Tue Aug 15 12:39:53 2017
From: jbr13 at md.metrocast.net (jbr13 at md.metrocast.net)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 08:39:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
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I use a good camera tripod with the setup I made.  Since I also do 
photography it was on hand.  If you get a cheap camera tripod, I am sure 
you will have issues of some sort.  A good heavier tripod is great, it 
will keep from tipping over.  You can see my arrow antenna rig on tripod 
on my QRZ page.


Jason Rearick
N3YUG






On 08-14-2017 8:37 PM, Doug Andrews wrote:
> The one time I used a tripod it collapsed causing the coax to act like
> a whip launching the radio to the ground.
> 
> That said, a regular camera tripod should work.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> .- ..-. --... --.. --.-
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net>
> Date: 8/14/17 1:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
> 
> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 14:08:41 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:08:41 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <99C00D38-14CE-4319-9F50-77D89EC49644@clara.co.uk>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
	<AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>
	<99C00D38-14CE-4319-9F50-77D89EC49644@clara.co.uk>
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Julian,

No apologies necessary, there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions. 

As far as research goes, I'm not aware of what studies have been done. This is probably because it has been of little concern to me based on what I know about RF and the design of Yagi-Uda antennas. 

RF is non-ionizing meaning it is incapable of causing any changes at a molecular level. RF only has the ability to cause heating of objects in its vicinity. That said, I'm not sure it's even possible to feed an arrow with enough power to cause any real heating without damaging the antenna first.

We can look at why antennas like this are used in the first place. These antennas have a good front to back ratio that directs the RF away from the handle. If we compare the radiation pattern of an arrow to that of a standard rubber duck antenna you'll see that much less energy is directed at the user. Personally, if I was concerned with exposure I would worry more about a 1/4 wave whip than a Yagi. Of course that assumes I don't have the Yagi pointed at myself. :)

If you would like more on the topic this page may be a good starting point https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/electromagnetic-compatibility-division/radio-frequency-safety/faq/rf-safety

Others in the group may know of studies done on the subject, I'm sure they'll share if they do. 

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 11:40 PM, Julian Horn (Clara) <julianhorn at clara.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Apologies if this is a dumb question, but it is from a relative newcomer to this field . . . :)
> Has any research been carried out on the (medical) safety of hand-held antennas such as the Arrow whilst transmitting?
> I understand the power is relatively low, but unlike say a mobile (cell) phone, average power I imagine will be much higher?
> Are there any measurements of field strength this close to the driven element and any assessments of the risks?
> 
> 73, Julian M0NUX
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 Aug 2017, at 01:14, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On a more serious note there are advantages to hand holding the Arrow even if it feels like you need to be an octopus to pull it off. There's a certain hand ear coordination that seems to come naturally when matching polarity by simply twisting your wrist. This advantage alone can be significant over fixed polarity or polarity matching by some mechanical means. The only time I would recommend a tripod is if there is some physical reason for not being able to hold it. 
>> 
>> Often times people go the tripod route because it seems like too many things are going on at once. One common pitfall is trying to log while a pass is in progress, usually on paper. A better solution is to record the audio for playback later. A simple voice recorder or even a smartphone works great. If using a voice recorder be sure to set the clock to UTC, timestamps will make logging a lot easier.
>> 
>> Another way to free up a hand is to use a boom mic headset with a foot switch for PTT. By doing this you free up your hand to operate the VFO(s).
>> 
>> Like Bryan pointed out, it can seem counterintuitive that holding the antenna can make things easier but when you evaluate the rest of your station you may find other ways to free yourself to aim.
>> 
>> If you find that there's just simply no way to operate without a tripod then maybe you can describe the difficulties you face. I've seen many clever designs, each with their own advantages and disadvantages making them each suitable to a different crowd. Let us know what you're looking to get out of a tripod setup, I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to share their solutions. 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Mike Diehl
>> AI6GS 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mike's being funny. :)
>>> 
>>> I used to use a $10 tripod I got from the Goodwill. The main thing I appreciated about it was its ability to do axial rotation -- think: camera on its side. When the Arrow was attached, I would us that feature to rotate the Arrow along its axis.
>>> 
>>> Nowadays I do what Mike does: I hold the Arrow in my hand. It takes some time to become comfortable with holding the antenna correctly while adjusting for Doppler and pressing the mic button, but after some practice I found it to be the most efficient way. It's counterintuitive, but using your hand to orient the antenna is very fast and flexible.
>>> 
>>> -- bag
>>> 
>>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
>>> Location: CM98, usually
>>> E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net
>>> Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 16:23, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I find a biped to work best with an arrow antenna. Works great for aiming and polarity matching. 
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>> Mike Diehl
>>>> AI6GS 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 14:26:00 2017
From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 09:26:00 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <9BE3C1CA-50CD-4F8F-A0D3-8DDAFA6738DD@gmail.com>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
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One way to quantify RF exposure is with a tool published by VK3UM mostly
for the EME community where radio power levels are higher than what is used
for low earth orbit satellites:

http://www.vk3um.com/emr%20calculator.html

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat.org


On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:

> Julian,
>
> No apologies necessary, there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking
> questions.
>
> As far as research goes, I'm not aware of what studies have been done.
> This is probably because it has been of little concern to me based on what
> I know about RF and the design of Yagi-Uda antennas.
>
> RF is non-ionizing meaning it is incapable of causing any changes at a
> molecular level. RF only has the ability to cause heating of objects in its
> vicinity. That said, I'm not sure it's even possible to feed an arrow with
> enough power to cause any real heating without damaging the antenna first.
>
> We can look at why antennas like this are used in the first place. These
> antennas have a good front to back ratio that directs the RF away from the
> handle. If we compare the radiation pattern of an arrow to that of a
> standard rubber duck antenna you'll see that much less energy is directed
> at the user. Personally, if I was concerned with exposure I would worry
> more about a 1/4 wave whip than a Yagi. Of course that assumes I don't have
> the Yagi pointed at myself. :)
>
> If you would like more on the topic this page may be a good starting point
> https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/electromagnetic-compatibility-
> division/radio-frequency-safety/faq/rf-safety
>
> Others in the group may know of studies done on the subject, I'm sure
> they'll share if they do.
>
> 73,
>
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS
>
> > On Aug 14, 2017, at 11:40 PM, Julian Horn (Clara) <
> julianhorn at clara.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Apologies if this is a dumb question, but it is from a relative newcomer
> to this field . . . :)
> > Has any research been carried out on the (medical) safety of hand-held
> antennas such as the Arrow whilst transmitting?
> > I understand the power is relatively low, but unlike say a mobile (cell)
> phone, average power I imagine will be much higher?
> > Are there any measurements of field strength this close to the driven
> element and any assessments of the risks?
> >
> > 73, Julian M0NUX
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 15 Aug 2017, at 01:14, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On a more serious note there are advantages to hand holding the Arrow
> even if it feels like you need to be an octopus to pull it off. There's a
> certain hand ear coordination that seems to come naturally when matching
> polarity by simply twisting your wrist. This advantage alone can be
> significant over fixed polarity or polarity matching by some mechanical
> means. The only time I would recommend a tripod is if there is some
> physical reason for not being able to hold it.
> >>
> >> Often times people go the tripod route because it seems like too many
> things are going on at once. One common pitfall is trying to log while a
> pass is in progress, usually on paper. A better solution is to record the
> audio for playback later. A simple voice recorder or even a smartphone
> works great. If using a voice recorder be sure to set the clock to UTC,
> timestamps will make logging a lot easier.
> >>
> >> Another way to free up a hand is to use a boom mic headset with a foot
> switch for PTT. By doing this you free up your hand to operate the VFO(s).
> >>
> >> Like Bryan pointed out, it can seem counterintuitive that holding the
> antenna can make things easier but when you evaluate the rest of your
> station you may find other ways to free yourself to aim.
> >>
> >> If you find that there's just simply no way to operate without a tripod
> then maybe you can describe the difficulties you face. I've seen many
> clever designs, each with their own advantages and disadvantages making
> them each suitable to a different crowd. Let us know what you're looking to
> get out of a tripod setup, I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to
> share their solutions.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Mike Diehl
> >> AI6GS
> >>
> >>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Bryan KL7CN <bryan at kl7cn.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mike's being funny. :)
> >>>
> >>> I used to use a $10 tripod I got from the Goodwill. The main thing I
> appreciated about it was its ability to do axial rotation -- think: camera
> on its side. When the Arrow was attached, I would us that feature to rotate
> the Arrow along its axis.
> >>>
> >>> Nowadays I do what Mike does: I hold the Arrow in my hand. It takes
> some time to become comfortable with holding the antenna correctly while
> adjusting for Doppler and pressing the mic button, but after some practice
> I found it to be the most efficient way. It's counterintuitive, but using
> your hand to orient the antenna is very fast and flexible.
> >>>
> >>> -- bag
> >>>
> >>> Bryan KL7CN/W6
> >>> Location: CM98, usually
> >>> E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net
> >>> Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279
> >>>
> >>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 16:23, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I find a biped to work best with an arrow antenna. Works great for
> aiming and polarity matching.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73,
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Diehl
> >>>> AI6GS
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Tue Aug 15 15:21:18 2017
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:21:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <90853d6c0b357d5ded77b87bffacc6e3@md.metrocast.net>
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I bought a camera tripod at a hamfest for 10 bucks. Then, I made a pad
the size of a camera attachment and bolted it to my Arrow. It slips right
in/out quickly/easily. I also found an exercise weight to balance the
Arrow when attached to the tripod and it is permanently mounted at the
end of the antenna. All of the elements are in front of the mounting. This
arrangement gives me full AZ/EL and polarity capability that is
constantly adjustable during a SAT pass and doesn't require me to have
a third hand for controlling every other thing that takes place during
a Rover operation. Logging is done with a small digital recorder and
its mic is shoved into my left headphone ear-cup and both sides of
of the QSO are recorded for later transcription. One hand holds the
mic for PTT and the other hand tunes the XCVR. It has all worked
FB for the past 7 years and 98 Rover Grids. And, if it's windy, I have
a plastic gallon jug of water I hang on a hook from the bottom of the
tripod to keep it from blowing over (again)!  -  Bob  K8BL



________________________________
From: "jbr13 at md.metrocast.net" <jbr13 at md.metrocast.net>
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna



I use a good camera tripod with the setup I made.  Since I also do 
photography it was on hand.  If you get a cheap camera tripod, I am sure 
you will have issues of some sort.  A good heavier tripod is great, it 
will keep from tipping over.  You can see my arrow antenna rig on tripod 
on my QRZ page.


Jason Rearick
N3YUG






On 08-14-2017 8:37 PM, Doug Andrews wrote:
> The one time I used a tripod it collapsed causing the coax to act like
> a whip launching the radio to the ground.
> 
> That said, a regular camera tripod should work.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> .- ..-. --... --.. --.-
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net>
> Date: 8/14/17 1:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
> 
> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite 
> program!
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From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 15:42:38 2017
From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:42:38 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR06MB697B3226339FA2CB2947DF3B48D0@CO2PR06MB697.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CO2PR06MB697B3226339FA2CB2947DF3B48D0@CO2PR06MB697.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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Amazon sells a $20 tripod that works well for me.


On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Doug Andrews <dougg27 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The one time I used a tripod it collapsed causing the coax to act like a whip launching the radio to the ground.
>
> That said, a regular camera tripod should work.
>
> 73
>
>
>
> .- ..-. --... --.. --.-
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Laura Tunnell <drlnt at cox.net>
> Date: 8/14/17 1:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
>
> What is best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna ?
>
>
>
>
>
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Tue Aug 15 15:54:18 2017
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 10:54:18 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <9BE3C1CA-50CD-4F8F-A0D3-8DDAFA6738DD@gmail.com>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
	<AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>
	<99C00D38-14CE-4319-9F50-77D89EC49644@clara.co.uk>
	<9BE3C1CA-50CD-4F8F-A0D3-8DDAFA6738DD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44079C59-AB32-450E-8FE7-7E827F35FAD7@pobox.com>

On August 15, 2017 9:08:41 AM CDT, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:

>Others in the group may know of studies done on the subject, I'm sure
>they'll share if they do. 


Personally, I'd worry more about processed meat and bacon consumption, smoking, alcohol intake, sun exposure, and pollution before I'd be concerned about a few watts of UHF/VHF.

It would, of course, be unwise to stare into a 23 element 70cm beam driven by a  1.5kW amplifier. Your eyeballs will not appreciate being boiled. :-)
--- Zach
N0ZGO

From w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 18:51:03 2017
From: w2hro.fn20 at gmail.com (Paul Andrews)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:51:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <44079C59-AB32-450E-8FE7-7E827F35FAD7@pobox.com>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
	<AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>
	<99C00D38-14CE-4319-9F50-77D89EC49644@clara.co.uk>
	<9BE3C1CA-50CD-4F8F-A0D3-8DDAFA6738DD@gmail.com>
	<44079C59-AB32-450E-8FE7-7E827F35FAD7@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <CAOsf+NSr5JPDhQ5wYPGwSghPm4hatr2pbY1QZWBjwiXT5MpzEg@mail.gmail.com>

Zach,

Interesting that you mention high power RF safety.    The FCC will
require all hams to submit an RF safety certification with license
renewals.   Hams will need to submit documentation supporting the
safety of their stations and possibly keep field strength monitoring
equipment at the QTH.

The strictest limits will be placed in 50 MHz to 500 MHz range since
the human body absorbs RFI energy efficiently in this frequency range.

This should affect small satellite stations but will affect EME class
station nestled in neighborhoods.

73 - Paul - W2HRO






On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing at pobox.com> wrote:
> On August 15, 2017 9:08:41 AM CDT, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Others in the group may know of studies done on the subject, I'm sure
>>they'll share if they do.
>
>
> Personally, I'd worry more about processed meat and bacon consumption, smoking, alcohol intake, sun exposure, and pollution before I'd be concerned about a few watts of UHF/VHF.
>
> It would, of course, be unwise to stare into a 23 element 70cm beam driven by a  1.5kW amplifier. Your eyeballs will not appreciate being boiled. :-)
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From zmetzing at pobox.com  Tue Aug 15 19:09:28 2017
From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:09:28 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <CAOsf+NSr5JPDhQ5wYPGwSghPm4hatr2pbY1QZWBjwiXT5MpzEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
	<AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>
	<99C00D38-14CE-4319-9F50-77D89EC49644@clara.co.uk>
	<9BE3C1CA-50CD-4F8F-A0D3-8DDAFA6738DD@gmail.com>
	<44079C59-AB32-450E-8FE7-7E827F35FAD7@pobox.com>
	<CAOsf+NSr5JPDhQ5wYPGwSghPm4hatr2pbY1QZWBjwiXT5MpzEg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87634cda-3614-2629-2fee-59c30c1f0c9f@pobox.com>

On 08/15/17 13:51, Paul Andrews wrote:
> Zach,
> 
> Interesting that you mention high power RF safety.    The FCC will
> require all hams to submit an RF safety certification with license
> renewals.   Hams will need to submit documentation supporting the
> safety of their stations and possibly keep field strength monitoring
> equipment at the QTH.
> 
> The strictest limits will be placed in 50 MHz to 500 MHz range since
> the human body absorbs RFI energy efficiently in this frequency range.
> 
> This should affect small satellite stations but will affect EME class
> station nestled in neighborhoods.

Paul,

I suspect you meant "should not" in that last sentence.

For those of you not familiar with these regulations:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-rf-exposure-regulations-the-station-evaluation

At 70cm, stations are assumed, by the FCC, to be meeting the exposure
guidelines with up to 70 watts of power input to the antenna. There is
no language about EIRP, which, strangely, is what really matters.

I'd much rather stand next to a horizontal dipole radiating 1.5kW than
be in the boresight of an EME array at 70W.

An interesting NIH paper which summarizes the effects of RF exposure:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK208983/

I think I'll stick to limiting my extra-crispy bacon intake to the
weekends. ;-)

73,

--- Zach
N0ZGO




From ai6do at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 15 19:04:21 2017
From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:04:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <CAOsf+NSr5JPDhQ5wYPGwSghPm4hatr2pbY1QZWBjwiXT5MpzEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
	<AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>
	<99C00D38-14CE-4319-9F50-77D89EC49644@clara.co.uk>
	<9BE3C1CA-50CD-4F8F-A0D3-8DDAFA6738DD@gmail.com>
	<44079C59-AB32-450E-8FE7-7E827F35FAD7@pobox.com>
	<CAOsf+NSr5JPDhQ5wYPGwSghPm4hatr2pbY1QZWBjwiXT5MpzEg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1467727799.2271746.1502823861813@mail.yahoo.com>

>Interesting that you mention high power RF safety.? ? The FCC will
>require all hams to submit an RF safety certification with license
>renewals.? Hams will need to submit documentation supporting the
>safety of their stations and possibly keep field strength monitoring
>equipment at the QTH.


Where is this new requirement documented??

73, Ryan AI6DO

From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Aug 15 19:22:01 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:22:01 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] best tripod for the arrow II handheld antenna
In-Reply-To: <1467727799.2271746.1502823861813@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <001e01d3153f$b6c31ec0$24495c40$@cox.net>
	<E33C24FC-8B48-4384-9E47-0672D39F52FC@gmail.com>
	<AB3BDC12-2F91-432E-81C9-AEFE8756DD1E@kl7cn.net>
	<AFC7A7C0-6A54-48D3-BC27-8EB274E339B0@gmail.com>
	<99C00D38-14CE-4319-9F50-77D89EC49644@clara.co.uk>
	<9BE3C1CA-50CD-4F8F-A0D3-8DDAFA6738DD@gmail.com>
	<44079C59-AB32-450E-8FE7-7E827F35FAD7@pobox.com>
	<CAOsf+NSr5JPDhQ5wYPGwSghPm4hatr2pbY1QZWBjwiXT5MpzEg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1467727799.2271746.1502823861813@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOq_=M0jW=C-_Xwvy=hCCcSECJ5kNVK72gEj7p0W9+_oFg@mail.gmail.com>

It's not because it doesn't exist and never will unless the FCC
fundamentally alters the structure of the Amateur service.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

> >Interesting that you mention high power RF safety.    The FCC will
> >require all hams to submit an RF safety certification with license
> >renewals.  Hams will need to submit documentation supporting the
> >safety of their stations and possibly keep field strength monitoring
> >equipment at the QTH.
>
>
> Where is this new requirement documented?
>
> 73, Ryan AI6DO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Aug 15 20:56:18 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:56:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV via AO-85 on Experimenter's Wednesday
Message-ID: <CABzOSOp9SnzghEpm3OOpdz7tc1K7wDG8DPUE7-Q1vgP2Od5=ng@mail.gmail.com>

A reminder that Experimenter's Wednesday begins at 0000 UTC. Stations are
encouraged to exchange Robot36 SSTV images via AO-85. See
https://www.amsat.org/return-of-experimenters-wednesday-to-ao-85/ for
guidelines.

73,

Paul, N8HM

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Tue Aug 15 12:16:23 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:16:23 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Possible trouble with new Icom IC-910H
In-Reply-To: <CAKXfWbQcNVVDyJU6UcXsEuU=tBJD-B+zZAD_i4hZHw=bjb7CPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbQVR2jP9bgBxbyGNGfAqv7xeUUg38uxZocvkLG0HeMXsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN8zKtR9JA=iJEepO2JVvYM3z=6Hy-1VLAKNcyW2HK0MXEa28g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKXfWbQcNVVDyJU6UcXsEuU=tBJD-B+zZAD_i4hZHw=bjb7CPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E8DD15CA-6D47-451E-A9F2-CBCB475964C1@tech-software.net>

Spectrum analyser 

Sdr dongle

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2017, at 10:19 pm, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, and I know the mic works because I can hear it on my handheld when in
> FM mode.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Are you using the stock mic?
>> 
>> 
>> - Matthew
>> ? nj4y?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought a used IC-910H on ebay for satellite work an am having a possible
>>> issue with it.
>>> 
>>> I tested the 2m and 70cm transmitter and receiver in FM mode with my
>>> handheld and they work fine. I hooked up a Bird 43 wattmeter with a 50E
>>> slug (50W, 400-1000Mhz) and when I transmit on 440Mhz FM I get an
>>> indication of power output on the meter.  So far so good...
>>> 
>>> Then in USB/LSB mode however, I get no indication on the meter, despite
>>> turning the mic gain up and talking into the mic. I've also up'ed the RF
>>> power with the little knob and that doesn't help. The red light flashes on
>>> the rig (ALC indication) and the meter on the rig moves. I can also hear
>>> distorted audio on my FM handheld (as expected since it's FM and not USB)
>>> but I'm worried about the lack of power indicated on the Bird.  I haven't
>>> been able to try CW yet because I don't have the right sized plug. Should
>>> I
>>> be concerned about the lack of power?
>>> 
>>> Summary:  Bird wattmeter shows power out on FM, but not on USB/LSB.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> W9KG
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>> 
>> 
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From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug 16 04:28:21 2017
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 00:28:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Fleet Science Center,
	BE WISE Program in San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <E4CB362AF8224ACC91E62B2501B27942@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Fleet Science Center, BE WISE Program in San Diego, CA, on 19 Aug. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 16:44 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and KJ6KDZ. The contact should be audible over the state of California and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

The Fleet Science Center connects people of all ages to the possibilities and power of science to create a better future. Established in 1973, it was the first science museum to combine interactive science exhibits with a planetarium and an IMAX Dome (OMNIMAX) theater, setting the standard that most major science museums follow today. The Fleet is home to many programs that engage girls in science, one of them is BE WiSE (Better Education for Women in Science and Engineering). BE WiSE BE WiSE engages young women in science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) learning experiences in collaboration with the region's research, industry and academic institutions. BE WiSE goals are to: stimulate young women's interest in STEM through interactions with professionals, increase participants' opportunities and knowledge of STEM fields of study, develop a community of young women (grades 7-12) engaged in science learning through out-of-school activities, and sustain interest and involvement through alumnae and ongoing participation for women in science at all levels. BE WiSE selects girls from all across San Diego County and has sustained contact with over five hundred girls over the past 14 years. 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. How does being on board the ISS for long periods of time affect your 

   overall health? 

2. When deciding to be an astronaut, did you have any doubts? If so, how did 

   you overcome them?

3. What is the most interesting experiment you are doing on the ISS right 

   now?

4. Have you ever dealt with malfunctions on board the ISS? If so, how did you 

   solve it?

5. What do you like most about the ISS?

6. Is it hard to sleep? What do you dream about?

7. If you get sick on the ISS how do you receive treatment?

8. What does weightlessness feel like?

9. What is a typical day like for you?

10. Do you miss "real" food? What kinds of food do you like on the ISS?

11. Do you get heartburn/acid reflux? How do you deal with that?

12. What is the most interesting thing you have seen aboard the ISS? 

13. How much does microgravity affect the experiments that you conduct on the 

    ISS?

14. What does the orbital sunrise look like?

15. What kind of medical testing do you go through before/after being in 

    space?

16. Are they currently working on lighter, more flexible space suits?

17. Do scientists from different countries collaborate on projects?  If so, 

    what kind?

18. How much time do you spend practicing in zero gravity before going into 

    space?

19. How do you think private space travel will affect the ISS?

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

      TBD

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From AJ9N at aol.com  Wed Aug 16 06:05:53 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 02:05:53 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-16 05:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <3a6128.1d871994.46c53ac0@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-16  05:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Takaishi City Central Public Hall, Takaishi City, Japan,  direct via 8N3TA 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The  scheduled astronaut is Jack Fischer K2FSH
Contact was successful: Mon  2017-08-14 10:37:04 UTC 57 deg (***)

Fleet Science Center, BE WISE  Program, San Diego, CA, direct via KJ6KDZ 
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA  
Contact is a go for: Sat 2017-08-19 16:44:41 UTC 32 deg  

Montreal Childrens Hospital, Montreal, QC, Canada, telebridge via  W6SRJ 
(***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)
The  scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact is a go for: Tue  2017-08-22 17:20:25 UTC 58 deg  (***)

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 124 (***) 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
Sergey RV3DR with 100  

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-16 05:30 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1154.  (***)
Each school  counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is  1113.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same  time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.  

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-16 05:30 UTC.  
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From jhjipping at comcast.net  Wed Aug 16 07:57:07 2017
From: jhjipping at comcast.net (James Jipping)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 03:57:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Making LVB Tracker USB work on W10
Message-ID: <797f2296-47d2-258a-ad46-257d2da370b2@comcast.net>

I have a LVB Tracker /usb version.  My HP8100 computer operating W10 
finds the DLP-USB232M device but has no driver.  Where can I get the 
proper driver?

When I interface the tracker to the computer via RS232 comport the 
Satpc32 rotor control program cannot get elevation and azimuth values 
from the tracker.

Likewise, when I use a USB to RS232 convertor, my computer finds the 
device, installs a driver, but the control program cannot get values.

I have setup the rotor in SATPC32 to the correct com port and do not get 
the error message when the com port is not properly set.

HELP!

Jim Jipping, W8MRR, AMSAT 5512 (old geezer)


From wa4sca at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 11:57:29 2017
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 06:57:29 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Making LVB Tracker USB work on W10
In-Reply-To: <797f2296-47d2-258a-ad46-257d2da370b2@comcast.net>
References: <797f2296-47d2-258a-ad46-257d2da370b2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000001d31686$d6ca7ea0$845f7be0$@gmail.com>

The DLP-USB232M uses a standard FTDI chip.  Normally any version of Windows
will have a version installed, but you can download it from FTDI.COM.

Just to make sure, you can install either the RS232 chip or the USB chip in
the LVB, but not both at the same time.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


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<Subject: [amsat-bb] Making LVB Tracker USB work on W10
<
<I have a LVB Tracker /usb version.  My HP8100 computer operating W10
<finds the DLP-USB232M device but has no driver.  Where can I get the
<proper driver?
<
<When I interface the tracker to the computer via RS232 comport the
<Satpc32 rotor control program cannot get elevation and azimuth values
<from the tracker.
<
<Likewise, when I use a USB to RS232 convertor, my computer finds the
<device, installs a driver, but the control program cannot get values.
<
<I have setup the rotor in SATPC32 to the correct com port and do not get
<the error message when the com port is not properly set.
<
<HELP!
<
<Jim Jipping, W8MRR, AMSAT 5512 (old geezer)
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Wed Aug 16 15:41:24 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (vk4tec at internode.on.net)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 01:41:24 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Reporter Email Report
Message-ID: <620401d316a6$1e3ad270$5ab07750$@internode.on.net>

Anyone interested in a daily ISS report via the AMSAT-BB email 

 

Or would it be too annoying ?

 

Andrew 


From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 16:10:15 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:10:15 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Reporter Email Report
In-Reply-To: <620401d316a6$1e3ad270$5ab07750$@internode.on.net>
References: <620401d316a6$1e3ad270$5ab07750$@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <628601DD-7B3E-48F9-9F7A-20B58CDBDFE2@gmail.com>

Daily reports is something people should subscribe to and not just sent out imho.  

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:41 AM, <vk4tec at internode.on.net> <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Anyone interested in a daily ISS report via the AMSAT-BB email 
> 
> 
> 
> Or would it be too annoying ?
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From ppauly at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 17:36:43 2017
From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:36:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
Message-ID: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>

This twitter post says that several small satellites will be hand-deployed
during the Russian EVA tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/RF2Space/status/897841299377709057

Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them "towards
earth" and not in the other direction so that they would have a lower orbit
than the station and not run into them at some point. Do they just toss
them out?

From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Aug 16 17:51:00 2017
From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:51:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
In-Reply-To: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2115315875.3960716.1502905860674@mail.yahoo.com>

I believe they are Tanyusha-SWSU 1 & 2 which are also referred variously as Tanyusha-YuZGU 1 & 2, or???????-???? 1 & 2, or Radioskaf 6 & 7 (RS6S, RS7S).https://amsat-uk.org/2017/06/30/russian-tanusha-1-and-2-satellites/
Also Tomsk-TPU-120 ??https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/29/tomsk-tpu-120-eva-deployment/


73 Trevor M5AKA




 

    On Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 18:38, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 This twitter post says that several small satellites will be hand-deployed
during the Russian EVA tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/RF2Space/status/897841299377709057

Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them "towards
earth" and not in the other direction so that they would have a lower orbit
than the station and not run into them at some point. Do they just toss
them out?
_______________________________________________
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Wed Aug 16 17:59:24 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 03:59:24 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
In-Reply-To: <2115315875.3960716.1502905860674@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<2115315875.3960716.1502905860674@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ED07A6D-C1B8-496F-A576-35A8149A2EF8@internode.on.net>

Can they land on the white house ?



> On 17 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> I believe they are Tanyusha-SWSU 1 & 2 which are also referred variously as Tanyusha-YuZGU 1 & 2, or ??????-???? 1 & 2, or Radioskaf 6 & 7 (RS6S, RS7S).https://amsat-uk.org/2017/06/30/russian-tanusha-1-and-2-satellites/
> Also Tomsk-TPU-120 ??https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/29/tomsk-tpu-120-eva-deployment/
> 
> 
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    On Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 18:38, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> This twitter post says that several small satellites will be hand-deployed
> during the Russian EVA tomorrow:
> 
> https://twitter.com/RF2Space/status/897841299377709057
> 
> Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them "towards
> earth" and not in the other direction so that they would have a lower orbit
> than the station and not run into them at some point. Do they just toss
> them out?
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 18:12:57 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:12:57 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
In-Reply-To: <4ED07A6D-C1B8-496F-A576-35A8149A2EF8@internode.on.net>
References: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<2115315875.3960716.1502905860674@mail.yahoo.com>
	<4ED07A6D-C1B8-496F-A576-35A8149A2EF8@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <EDB38526-7894-4D29-A981-880B69A28EB9@gmail.com>

Or maybe your internet service provider. 

Mike Diehl

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Can they land on the white house ?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I believe they are Tanyusha-SWSU 1 & 2 which are also referred variously as Tanyusha-YuZGU 1 & 2, or ??????-???? 1 & 2, or Radioskaf 6 & 7 (RS6S, RS7S).https://amsat-uk.org/2017/06/30/russian-tanusha-1-and-2-satellites/
>> Also Tomsk-TPU-120 ??https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/29/tomsk-tpu-120-eva-deployment/
>> 
>> 
>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 18:38, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This twitter post says that several small satellites will be hand-deployed
>> during the Russian EVA tomorrow:
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/RF2Space/status/897841299377709057
>> 
>> Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them "towards
>> earth" and not in the other direction so that they would have a lower orbit
>> than the station and not run into them at some point. Do they just toss
>> them out?
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 19:12:31 2017
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:12:31 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
In-Reply-To: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e0b4a808-4676-e94e-7ede-5e87b8de089f@gmail.com>

I jokingly describe the launch of a satellite from the ISS as the crew
opening a window and tossing the satellite out.  But, in fact, there is
a very carefully planned direction to which the crew "toss" the
satellites.  I believe it's to the rear and below of the ISS, such that
when the orbits cross in the future there is no danger that the two will
collide.

If, for example, they were to push the satellites to the side of the
ISS, then an orbit later the two would meet again as the satellite's
orbit would be oscillating to one side and then the other of the ISS. 
Going to the rear, making the satellite's orbital velocity slightly
slower than the ISS, would put the satellite in a lower orbit.  But that
lower orbit makes the satellite complete its trip around the Earth
faster than the ISS, so should put it ahead of the ISS when they meet
again.  If launched behind and below, then by the time it gets around to
the ISS again, it should be far enough away that there would be no
possible danger of a collision.

Or, something like that.  I forget the details, but it's been discussed
here a while ago.

Greg  KO6TH


Peter Pauly wrote:
> Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them "towards
> earth" and not in the other direction so that they would have a lower orbit
> than the station and not run into them at some point. Do they just toss
> them out?


From rs2atmink at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 16 19:34:35 2017
From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:34:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat Reporter Email Report
In-Reply-To: <628601DD-7B3E-48F9-9F7A-20B58CDBDFE2@gmail.com>
References: <620401d316a6$1e3ad270$5ab07750$@internode.on.net>
	<628601DD-7B3E-48F9-9F7A-20B58CDBDFE2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1958441415.3131476.1502912075152@mail.yahoo.com>

correct, a daily report to the AMSAT-BB would be annoying, IMO
Mike is correct that it should be by subscription only.
Rob KA2CZU
 

    On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:12 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Daily reports is something people should subscribe to and not just sent out imho.? 

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:41 AM, <vk4tec at internode.on.net> <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Anyone interested in a daily ISS report via the AMSAT-BB email 
> 
> 
> 
> Or would it be too annoying ?
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


   

From pagreen at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 19:54:17 2017
From: pagreen at gmail.com (Patrick Green)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 14:54:17 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
In-Reply-To: <e0b4a808-4676-e94e-7ede-5e87b8de089f@gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<e0b4a808-4676-e94e-7ede-5e87b8de089f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAhWhXTr31isWfKTrCgf05SHaEnZaOh2boMzkfjCi2cvcUgLjA@mail.gmail.com>

It's my belief that ISS sits in a decaying orbit on purpose so other debris
is limited.  They constantly have to keep pushing up their orbit to stay in
space and not fall back to earth.

73 de KA9SCF

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I jokingly describe the launch of a satellite from the ISS as the crew
> opening a window and tossing the satellite out.  But, in fact, there is
> a very carefully planned direction to which the crew "toss" the
> satellites.  I believe it's to the rear and below of the ISS, such that
> when the orbits cross in the future there is no danger that the two will
> collide.
>
> If, for example, they were to push the satellites to the side of the
> ISS, then an orbit later the two would meet again as the satellite's
> orbit would be oscillating to one side and then the other of the ISS.
> Going to the rear, making the satellite's orbital velocity slightly
> slower than the ISS, would put the satellite in a lower orbit.  But that
> lower orbit makes the satellite complete its trip around the Earth
> faster than the ISS, so should put it ahead of the ISS when they meet
> again.  If launched behind and below, then by the time it gets around to
> the ISS again, it should be far enough away that there would be no
> possible danger of a collision.
>
> Or, something like that.  I forget the details, but it's been discussed
> here a while ago.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Peter Pauly wrote:
> > Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them
> "towards
> > earth" and not in the other direction so that they would have a lower
> orbit
> > than the station and not run into them at some point. Do they just toss
> > them out?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



-- 
Best regards,

Patrick Green

From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 20:02:56 2017
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:02:56 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
In-Reply-To: <CAAhWhXTr31isWfKTrCgf05SHaEnZaOh2boMzkfjCi2cvcUgLjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<e0b4a808-4676-e94e-7ede-5e87b8de089f@gmail.com>
	<CAAhWhXTr31isWfKTrCgf05SHaEnZaOh2boMzkfjCi2cvcUgLjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70535902-25c8-a928-a1f7-feb4ec2574ef@gmail.com>

"On purpose" is a multiply faceted thing.  It's high enough that it can
stay in orbit, but low enough that the Shuttle and other launch vehicles
can get to it.  That orbit happens to be low enough that stuff does tend
to decay fairly rapidly, but I think access was more the driving factor
for how high to put it.

Anything in a higher orbit will necessarily cross through the ISS's
orbit on their way to decay.  So, putting the ISS higher would have been
better from a debris perspective, and also would reduce the need for
reboosting.  But if you can't get to the ISS with the available launch
vehicles, that would kind of defeat the whole purpose of the space
laboratory.

Greg  KO6TH


Patrick Green wrote:
> It's my belief that ISS sits in a decaying orbit on purpose so other debris
> is limited.  They constantly have to keep pushing up their orbit to stay in
> space and not fall back to earth.
>
> 73 de KA9SCF


From k7trkradio at charter.net  Wed Aug 16 23:36:44 2017
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:36:44 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
In-Reply-To: <CAAhWhXTr31isWfKTrCgf05SHaEnZaOh2boMzkfjCi2cvcUgLjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKXfWbRdu5GDu-wECRgD8J6kvtyC9q=TWPoPj9P5mVVZUbVwXg@mail.gmail.com>	<e0b4a808-4676-e94e-7ede-5e87b8de089f@gmail.com>
	<CAAhWhXTr31isWfKTrCgf05SHaEnZaOh2boMzkfjCi2cvcUgLjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601d316e8$8574bb80$905e3280$@charter.net>

FYI, interesting article in the current Air&Space magazine about the extent
of debris and trash in orbit. It is a real trash heap out there.

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick
Green
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:54 PM
To: Amsat BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites

It's my belief that ISS sits in a decaying orbit on purpose so other debris
is limited.  They constantly have to keep pushing up their orbit to stay in
space and not fall back to earth.

73 de KA9SCF

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I jokingly describe the launch of a satellite from the ISS as the crew 
> opening a window and tossing the satellite out.  But, in fact, there 
> is a very carefully planned direction to which the crew "toss" the 
> satellites.  I believe it's to the rear and below of the ISS, such 
> that when the orbits cross in the future there is no danger that the 
> two will collide.
>
> If, for example, they were to push the satellites to the side of the 
> ISS, then an orbit later the two would meet again as the satellite's 
> orbit would be oscillating to one side and then the other of the ISS.
> Going to the rear, making the satellite's orbital velocity slightly 
> slower than the ISS, would put the satellite in a lower orbit.  But 
> that lower orbit makes the satellite complete its trip around the 
> Earth faster than the ISS, so should put it ahead of the ISS when they 
> meet again.  If launched behind and below, then by the time it gets 
> around to the ISS again, it should be far enough away that there would 
> be no possible danger of a collision.
>
> Or, something like that.  I forget the details, but it's been 
> discussed here a while ago.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Peter Pauly wrote:
> > Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them
> "towards
> > earth" and not in the other direction so that they would have a 
> > lower
> orbit
> > than the station and not run into them at some point. Do they just 
> > toss them out?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available 
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect 
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



--
Best regards,

Patrick Green
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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Wed Aug 16 23:33:38 2017
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:33:38 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
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Andrew (unknown call sign) seems to be channeling Clint
73, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Mike Diehl
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:13 AM
To: Andrew Rich
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites

Or maybe your internet service provider. 

Mike Diehl

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Can they land on the white house ?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Aug 2017, at 3:51 am, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I believe they are Tanyusha-SWSU 1 & 2 which are also referred 
>> variously as Tanyusha-YuZGU 1 & 2, or ??????-???? 1 & 2, or Radioskaf 
>> 6 & 7 (RS6S, 
>> RS7S).https://amsat-uk.org/2017/06/30/russian-tanusha-1-and-2-satelli
>> tes/ Also Tomsk-TPU-120 
>> ??https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/29/tomsk-tpu-120-eva-deployment/
>> 
>> 
>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 18:38, Peter Pauly <ppauly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This twitter post says that several small satellites will be 
>> hand-deployed during the Russian EVA tomorrow:
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/RF2Space/status/897841299377709057
>> 
>> Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them 
>> "towards earth" and not in the other direction so that they would 
>> have a lower orbit than the station and not run into them at some 
>> point. Do they just toss them out?
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Wed Aug 16 23:50:46 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:50:46 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
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Oh yeah 

It amazes me how the ISS is not going ting ting ting 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Aug 2017, at 9:36 am, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> FYI, interesting article in the current Air&Space magazine about the extent
> of debris and trash in orbit. It is a real trash heap out there.
> 
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick
> Green
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:54 PM
> To: Amsat BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
> 
> It's my belief that ISS sits in a decaying orbit on purpose so other debris
> is limited.  They constantly have to keep pushing up their orbit to stay in
> space and not fall back to earth.
> 
> 73 de KA9SCF
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I jokingly describe the launch of a satellite from the ISS as the crew 
>> opening a window and tossing the satellite out.  But, in fact, there 
>> is a very carefully planned direction to which the crew "toss" the 
>> satellites.  I believe it's to the rear and below of the ISS, such 
>> that when the orbits cross in the future there is no danger that the 
>> two will collide.
>> 
>> If, for example, they were to push the satellites to the side of the 
>> ISS, then an orbit later the two would meet again as the satellite's 
>> orbit would be oscillating to one side and then the other of the ISS.
>> Going to the rear, making the satellite's orbital velocity slightly 
>> slower than the ISS, would put the satellite in a lower orbit.  But 
>> that lower orbit makes the satellite complete its trip around the 
>> Earth faster than the ISS, so should put it ahead of the ISS when they 
>> meet again.  If launched behind and below, then by the time it gets 
>> around to the ISS again, it should be far enough away that there would 
>> be no possible danger of a collision.
>> 
>> Or, something like that.  I forget the details, but it's been 
>> discussed here a while ago.
>> 
>> Greg  KO6TH
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Pauly wrote:
>>> Anyone know the details? I assume they would want to release them
>> "towards
>>> earth" and not in the other direction so that they would have a 
>>> lower
>> orbit
>>> than the station and not run into them at some point. Do they just 
>>> toss them out?
>> 
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> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Patrick Green
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From tjschuessler at verizon.net  Thu Aug 17 00:46:44 2017
From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:46:44 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand deployed satellites
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The Google translate of the article in Russian on these two satellites is
here;

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=U
TF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.swsu.ru%2F%3FELEMENT_ID%3D41611&edit-text=&act=url 

Tom, N5HYP

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:51:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
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I believe they are Tanyusha-SWSU 1 & 2 which are also referred variously as
Tanyusha-YuZGU 1 & 2, or???????-???? 1 & 2, or Radioskaf 6 & 7 (RS6S,
RS7S).https://amsat-uk.org/2017/06/30/russian-tanusha-1-and-2-satellites/
Also Tomsk-TPU-120
??https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/29/tomsk-tpu-120-eva-deployment/


73 Trevor M5AKA


From jhjipping at comcast.net  Thu Aug 17 00:47:41 2017
From: jhjipping at comcast.net (James Jipping)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:47:41 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker and W`10
Message-ID: <c10649a2-f6e2-d66b-4fab-72365f31dd74@comcast.net>

A big thanks to all who responded relative to my com port/river 
problem.  I found the driver I needed and discovered the sequence in 
which computer and peripherals need to be turned on and accessed.

Everything working fine!

Thanks, again

Jim Jipping, W8MRR

P.S.  to John Papay ----- I'm in Holland, MI next to Zeeland, MI Small 
world!


From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 14:59:18 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 00:59:18 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
Message-ID: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>

Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM at 1359 UTC

Sent from my iPhone

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 15:34:27 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 01:34:27 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
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Satellites launched 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Aug 2017, at 12:59 am, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM at 1359 UTC
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 15:40:49 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 01:40:49 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50
Message-ID: <50B26201-EF4A-4286-A4D8-5616DC815E54@internode.on.net>

Has anyone emailed AB5XS about his jamming SO-50?

Sent from my iPhone

From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 15:43:02 2017
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:43:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50
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How is he jamming SO-50?

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S7

On Aug 17, 2017 11:42 AM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Has anyone emailed AB5XS about his jamming SO-50?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Thu Aug 17 16:08:46 2017
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:08:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-50
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Can you hear him in VK land??? If so we need to set up a sked

- Matthew NJ4Y

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 11:40, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone emailed AB5XS about his jamming SO-50?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 17:33:46 2017
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 10:33:46 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
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Hi Andrew,

Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back to
13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.

What did I do wrong?

Greg  KO6TH


Andrew Rich wrote:
> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM at 1359 UTC
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 17:51:30 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 03:51:30 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
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References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
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Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter 



Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back to
> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
> 
> What did I do wrong?
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> 
> Andrew Rich wrote:
>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM at 1359 UTC
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 18:16:18 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:16:18 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSK31 birds
Message-ID: <254330CB-3C39-43E5-8A20-F2BD8788D6F9@internode.on.net>

Just awaiting a power supply 

Are there any birds that send PSK reliably I can look out for ?

Maybe someone has a list of favourite satellites that are always on ?

I think uo-11 was always a player

I have 

NOAA birds
ISS
PSAT
FM birds , do they have beacons ? 

I have mac doppler hooked up to an icom 910 now

This does doppler corrections

Got software defined radios as well 

Looking to set my system running and seeing if I can snag some signals in an automated setup

After some frequencies u guys frequent

Cheers

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 18:42:47 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:42:47 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
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Andrew,

I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back to
>> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
>> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
>> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
>> 
>> What did I do wrong?
>> 
>> Greg  KO6TH
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM at 1359 UTC
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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> 
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 18:44:38 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:44:38 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
	<A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6FDDDF7E-AB0E-455D-80CA-17AB1A7890B0@internode.on.net>

Not interested in Eva ? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Aug 2017, at 4:42 am, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS 
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> 
>>> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back to
>>> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
>>> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
>>> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
>>> 
>>> What did I do wrong?
>>> 
>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM at 1359 UTC
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Thu Aug 17 18:48:35 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 14:48:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
	<A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>

Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at times,
but please cite the source of the information when you do so.

I would have worded the original post like this:

"M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167 MHz
FM. https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You
> could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself
> questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can
> prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.
>
> 73,
>
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS
>
> > On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Andrew,
> >>
> >> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back to
> >> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
> >> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
> >> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
> >>
> >> What did I do wrong?
> >>
> >> Greg  KO6TH
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew Rich wrote:
> >>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM
> at 1359 UTC
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 18:49:35 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (vk4tec at internode.on.net)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:49:35 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
	<A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <633901d31789$92a54760$b7efd620$@internode.on.net>

Sorry does not meet ur needs

 

From: prstoetzer at gmail.com [mailto:prstoetzer at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer
Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017 4:49 AM
To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA

 

Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at times, but please cite the source of the information when you do so.

I would have worded the original post like this:

 

"M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167 MHz FM. https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"

 

73,

 

Paul, N8HM

 

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com <mailto:diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> > wrote:

Andrew,

I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS


> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net <mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net> > wrote:
>
> Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com <mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back to
>> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
>> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
>> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
>>
>> What did I do wrong?
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>>
>>
>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM at 1359 UTC
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

 


From simon at sdr-radio.com  Thu Aug 17 19:12:01 2017
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:12:01 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <031f01d3178c$b4728260$1d578720$@sdr-radio.com>

Andrew,

The Airspy Mini is a very good SDR, you have not made a mistake. At 1,296MHz
you'll probably need a LNA.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich

...

I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact

It's 12 bits
It's got tracking filters
It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx

Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?

The funcube dongle is probably the best ?

I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play 

Andrew 


From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 19:26:04 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 05:26:04 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <031f01d3178c$b4728260$1d578720$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<031f01d3178c$b4728260$1d578720$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <BF0319AD-D002-418E-8634-BDD3E1C110EC@internode.on.net>

I don't know what it is about the mini maybe it's the tracking filters but it works well

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Aug 2017, at 5:12 am, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> The Airspy Mini is a very good SDR, you have not made a mistake. At 1,296MHz
> you'll probably need a LNA.
> 
> Simon Brown, G4ELI
> www.sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
> 
> ...
> 
> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
> 
> It's 12 bits
> It's got tracking filters
> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
> 
> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
> 
> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
> 
> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play 
> 
> Andrew 
> 


From simon at sdr-radio.com  Thu Aug 17 19:27:51 2017
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:27:51 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <BF0319AD-D002-418E-8634-BDD3E1C110EC@internode.on.net>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<031f01d3178c$b4728260$1d578720$@sdr-radio.com>
	<BF0319AD-D002-418E-8634-BDD3E1C110EC@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <032901d3178e$ea9aba40$bfd02ec0$@sdr-radio.com>

Well,

It's sensitive, has a good dynamic range (fewer problems from pages, FM
Stereo transmitters) etc.

Simon Brown, G4ELI
www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Rich [mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net] 
Sent: 17 August 2017 20:26
To: Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com>
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception

I don't know what it is about the mini maybe it's the tracking filters but
it works well

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Aug 2017, at 5:12 am, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> The Airspy Mini is a very good SDR, you have not made a mistake. At 
> 1,296MHz you'll probably need a LNA.
> 
> Simon Brown, G4ELI
> www.sdr-radio.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew 
> Rich
> 
> ...
> 
> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
> 
> It's 12 bits
> It's got tracking filters
> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
> 
> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
> 
> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
> 
> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
> 
> Andrew
> 



From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 20:11:04 2017
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 13:11:04 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
	<A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f9a0dd21-981c-c0de-62d6-a7e52c5d277c@gmail.com>

Paul's version would have been perfect, but just being aware that the
EVA was occurring, and the frequencies involved, was interesting and
valuable.  I'm not on Twitter, so didn't see the original.  Thank you
for the heads-up, so to speak.

Andrew, I expect your choice of interface (iPhone, with its limitations)
may have something to do with the expressed frustration.  Paul's
version, citing the source and context, is far more valuable and less
work for me, but I know it was more work on his part.  I don't know how
that work would map to the iPhone's interface - copying links, more
typing, etc. - or if it is even possible.  I know on my Android phone,
it would have been a bit of work, but trivial to do on my PC (which BTW,
I am using now...).  Perhaps that's just the nature of the 'BB; this
isn't Twitter, so we need to adapt to what works best here.

So, a friendly suggestion:  If you would provide a bit more context in
your shorter postings, using complete words and sentences, it would make
for less head-scratching on the part of your audience, and help all
involved.  Nobody else is inside your head or know what you're up to. 
You have a lot to offer, but sometimes it's just too much work on our
part to decode what you are talking about or requesting help on.  Please
help us help you.

Greg  KO6TH


Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at times,
> but please cite the source of the information when you do so.
>
> I would have worded the original post like this:
>
> "M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167 MHz
> FM. https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You
>> could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself
>> questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can
>> prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mike Diehl
>> AI6GS
>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back to
>>>> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
>>>> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
>>>> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
>>>>
>>>> What did I do wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz FM
>> at 1359 UTC
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From kq6ea at verizon.net  Thu Aug 17 20:29:20 2017
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:29:20 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <032901d3178e$ea9aba40$bfd02ec0$@sdr-radio.com>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<031f01d3178c$b4728260$1d578720$@sdr-radio.com>
	<BF0319AD-D002-418E-8634-BDD3E1C110EC@internode.on.net>
	<032901d3178e$ea9aba40$bfd02ec0$@sdr-radio.com>
Message-ID: <56c76d38-7fdc-40aa-b901-71759129602b@verizon.net>

I have the "full size" Airspy, and it works very well. I've gone through 
half a dozen USB dongles, both Fun Cube dongles, the HackRF, and both 
SDRPlay units, and I like the Airspy the best.


73, Jim  KQ6EA


On 08/17/2017 07:27 PM, Simon Brown wrote:
> Well,
>
> It's sensitive, has a good dynamic range (fewer problems from pages, FM
> Stereo transmitters) etc.
>
> Simon Brown, G4ELI
> www.sdr-radio.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Rich [mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net]
> Sent: 17 August 2017 20:26
> To: Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com>
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
>
> I don't know what it is about the mini maybe it's the tracking filters but
> it works well
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 5:12 am, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> The Airspy Mini is a very good SDR, you have not made a mistake. At
>> 1,296MHz you'll probably need a LNA.
>>
>> Simon Brown, G4ELI
>> www.sdr-radio.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Rich
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>
>> It's 12 bits
>> It's got tracking filters
>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>
>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>
>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>
>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Thu Aug 17 20:31:52 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 06:31:52 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <56c76d38-7fdc-40aa-b901-71759129602b@verizon.net>
References: <D387CE3E-0278-46F5-B52A-616AE358EA07@internode.on.net>
	<031f01d3178c$b4728260$1d578720$@sdr-radio.com>
	<BF0319AD-D002-418E-8634-BDD3E1C110EC@internode.on.net>
	<032901d3178e$ea9aba40$bfd02ec0$@sdr-radio.com>
	<56c76d38-7fdc-40aa-b901-71759129602b@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <374C8996-4F1A-4F03-A3E4-6B43DEBF1FEB@internode.on.net>

What does the big brother airspy do over the mini ?

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Aug 2017, at 6:29 am, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> I have the "full size" Airspy, and it works very well. I've gone through half a dozen USB dongles, both Fun Cube dongles, the HackRF, and both SDRPlay units, and I like the Airspy the best.
> 
> 
> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
> 
> 
>> On 08/17/2017 07:27 PM, Simon Brown wrote:
>> Well,
>> 
>> It's sensitive, has a good dynamic range (fewer problems from pages, FM
>> Stereo transmitters) etc.
>> 
>> Simon Brown, G4ELI
>> www.sdr-radio.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew Rich [mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net]
>> Sent: 17 August 2017 20:26
>> To: Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com>
>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
>> 
>> I don't know what it is about the mini maybe it's the tracking filters but
>> it works well
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 5:12 am, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>> 
>>> The Airspy Mini is a very good SDR, you have not made a mistake. At
>>> 1,296MHz you'll probably need a LNA.
>>> 
>>> Simon Brown, G4ELI
>>> www.sdr-radio.com
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
>>> Rich
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>> 
>>> It's 12 bits
>>> It's got tracking filters
>>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>> 
>>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>> 
>>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>> 
>>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From simon at sdr-radio.com  Thu Aug 17 20:39:48 2017
From: simon at sdr-radio.com (Simon Brown)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 21:39:48 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <374C8996-4F1A-4F03-A3E4-6B43DEBF1FEB@internode.on.net>
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10MHz bandwidth, not needed for Satellites ? .

Simon Brown, G4ELI
www.sdr-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Rich
Sent: 17 August 2017 21:32
To: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net>
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception

What does the big brother airspy do over the mini ?

Andrew 


From wa4sca at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 21:06:02 2017
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:06:02 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
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	<033d01d31798$f7fc20c0$e7f46240$@sdr-radio.com>
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The original Airspy also has provisions for an external 10 MHz reference.  Requires CMOS 3.3 volts, rather than the usual bipolar.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


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<10MHz bandwidth, not needed for Satellites ? .
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From kq6ea at verizon.net  Thu Aug 17 21:54:50 2017
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 21:54:50 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
In-Reply-To: <374C8996-4F1A-4F03-A3E4-6B43DEBF1FEB@internode.on.net>
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	<BF0319AD-D002-418E-8634-BDD3E1C110EC@internode.on.net>
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I'm not really sure other than the ext 10MHz input, and a wider bandwidth.


I'd been through enough "dongles", and wanted something different.


The HackRF is only 8-bits, something I didn't expect for the price, and 
I had major trouble running the SDRPlay units with Linux.


Jim


On 08/17/2017 08:31 PM, Andrew Rich wrote:
> What does the big brother airspy do over the mini ?
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 6:29 am, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> I have the "full size" Airspy, and it works very well. I've gone through half a dozen USB dongles, both Fun Cube dongles, the HackRF, and both SDRPlay units, and I like the Airspy the best.
>>
>>
>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>
>>
>>> On 08/17/2017 07:27 PM, Simon Brown wrote:
>>> Well,
>>>
>>> It's sensitive, has a good dynamic range (fewer problems from pages, FM
>>> Stereo transmitters) etc.
>>>
>>> Simon Brown, G4ELI
>>> www.sdr-radio.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew Rich [mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net]
>>> Sent: 17 August 2017 20:26
>>> To: Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com>
>>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Best SDR for satellite reception
>>>
>>> I don't know what it is about the mini maybe it's the tracking filters but
>>> it works well
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 5:12 am, Simon Brown <simon at sdr-radio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> The Airspy Mini is a very good SDR, you have not made a mistake. At
>>>> 1,296MHz you'll probably need a LNA.
>>>>
>>>> Simon Brown, G4ELI
>>>> www.sdr-radio.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> I have selected the airspy mini based on the fact
>>>>
>>>> It's 12 bits
>>>> It's got tracking filters
>>>> It works with sdr sharp, hdsdr, gnuradio, gqrx
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone bought out a satellite specific SDR ?
>>>>
>>>> The funcube dongle is probably the best ?
>>>>
>>>> I have a hack rf as well as rtl sdr and sdr play
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
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From k7trkradio at charter.net  Thu Aug 17 23:01:03 2017
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:01:03 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
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Andrew, you are pretty much clueless, right?

73, K7TRK

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From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
vk4tec at internode.on.net
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:50 AM
To: 'Paul Stoetzer'; 'Mike Diehl'
Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA

Sorry does not meet ur needs

 

From: prstoetzer at gmail.com [mailto:prstoetzer at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017 4:49 AM
To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA

 

Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at times, but
please cite the source of the information when you do so.

I would have worded the original post like this:

 

"M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167 MHz FM.
https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"

 

73,

 

Paul, N8HM

 

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com
<mailto:diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> > wrote:

Andrew,

I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You
could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself
questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can
prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS


> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net
<mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net> > wrote:
>
> Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com
<mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back 
>> to
>> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the 
>> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were 
>> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
>>
>> What did I do wrong?
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>>
>>
>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz 
>>> FM at 1359 UTC
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide 
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>
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From dave at druidnetworks.com  Thu Aug 17 23:16:07 2017
From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 18:16:07 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
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References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
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	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
	<A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm going with spectrum disorder of some form.... either that or a glorious
troll worthy of all of our adoration.

List Mods: Please help? Thanks.



-Dave, KG5CCI

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:

> Andrew, you are pretty much clueless, right?
>
> 73, K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
> vk4tec at internode.on.net
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:50 AM
> To: 'Paul Stoetzer'; 'Mike Diehl'
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
>
> Sorry does not meet ur needs
>
>
>
> From: prstoetzer at gmail.com [mailto:prstoetzer at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Stoetzer
> Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017 4:49 AM
> To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
> Cc: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
>
>
>
> Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at times,
> but
> please cite the source of the information when you do so.
>
> I would have worded the original post like this:
>
>
>
> "M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167 MHz
> FM.
> https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com
> <mailto:diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You
> could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself
> questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can
> prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.
>
> 73,
>
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS
>
>
> > On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net
> <mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net> > wrote:
> >
> > Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com
> <mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Andrew,
> >>
> >> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back
> >> to
> >> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
> >> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
> >> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
> >>
> >> What did I do wrong?
> >>
> >> Greg  KO6TH
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew Rich wrote:
> >>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz
> >>> FM at 1359 UTC
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA
> >>> makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide
> >>> without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of
> the
> author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> all
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From almetco at comcast.net  Thu Aug 17 22:44:57 2017
From: almetco at comcast.net (Greg)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 18:44:57 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Eclipse Project Info
Message-ID: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>

Hello all,

A non-profit youth group is have an eclipse party during the eclipse. A science teacher will explain to the children about the eclipse etc and the group had bought the glasses that are recommended on the NASA site.

Here?s where I come in?Several years ago, I use to listen to LF, ULF for lightning, atmospheric noises , etc., on an active receiver.  Is there any site, articles, info etc on frequency?s to listen to the sun during the eclipse on VHF, UHF +, etc.  Also does anyone know if the radio signals from the sun will be ?interrupted? as the moon passes.  Any info for a radio project would be appreciated.

Greg
N3MVF

From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 23:46:51 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:46:51 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <CANq+eyVVduEM9qaf+qiPNttqRUbsekqHnCiteSgyGy25_g29og@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
	<A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<633901d31789$92a54760$b7efd620$@internode.on.net>
	<003d01d317ac$b3c3be40$1b4b3ac0$@charter.net>
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Mods!

Mike Diehl

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:16 PM, David Swanson <dave at druidnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm going with spectrum disorder of some form.... either that or a glorious
> troll worthy of all of our adoration.
> 
> List Mods: Please help? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -Dave, KG5CCI
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew, you are pretty much clueless, right?
>> 
>> 73, K7TRK
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
>> vk4tec at internode.on.net
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:50 AM
>> To: 'Paul Stoetzer'; 'Mike Diehl'
>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
>> 
>> Sorry does not meet ur needs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: prstoetzer at gmail.com [mailto:prstoetzer at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>> Stoetzer
>> Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017 4:49 AM
>> To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at times,
>> but
>> please cite the source of the information when you do so.
>> 
>> I would have worded the original post like this:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167 MHz
>> FM.
>> https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paul, N8HM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com
>> <mailto:diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> 
>> I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You
>> could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself
>> questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can
>> prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Mike Diehl
>> AI6GS
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net
>> <mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>> 
>>>> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back
>>>> to
>>>> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
>>>> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were
>>>> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
>>>> 
>>>> What did I do wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz
>>>>> FM at 1359 UTC
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From kg5jup at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 23:48:24 2017
From: kg5jup at gmail.com (KG5JUP)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 18:48:24 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
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References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
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Can we keep it civil and high minded plz

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Andrew, you are pretty much clueless, right?
> 
> 73, K7TRK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
> vk4tec at internode.on.net
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:50 AM
> To: 'Paul Stoetzer'; 'Mike Diehl'
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
> 
> Sorry does not meet ur needs
> 
> 
> 
> From: prstoetzer at gmail.com [mailto:prstoetzer at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Stoetzer
> Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017 4:49 AM
> To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
> Cc: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
> 
> 
> 
> Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at times, but
> please cite the source of the information when you do so.
> 
> I would have worded the original post like this:
> 
> 
> 
> "M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167 MHz FM.
> https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> 
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com
> <mailto:diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. You
> could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask yourself
> questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you can
> prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS
> 
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net
> <mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net> > wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com
> <mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> 
>>> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go back 
>>> to
>>> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the 
>>> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were 
>>> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
>>> 
>>> What did I do wrong?
>>> 
>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 Mhz 
>>>> FM at 1359 UTC
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA 
>>>> makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide 
>>>> without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the
> author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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>>> 
>> 
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>> makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide 
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> 
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From w3ab at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 18 01:59:35 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 18:59:35 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Eclipse Project Info
In-Reply-To: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>
References: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>
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Good question Greg.

The obvious answer is: Listen to the sun, and record your findings.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Aug 17, 2017, 16:33, at 16:33, Greg <almetco at comcast.net> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>A non-profit youth group is have an eclipse party during the eclipse. A
>science teacher will explain to the children about the eclipse etc and
>the group had bought the glasses that are recommended on the NASA site.
>
>Here?s where I come in?Several years ago, I use to listen to LF, ULF
>for lightning, atmospheric noises , etc., on an active receiver.  Is
>there any site, articles, info etc on frequency?s to listen to the sun
>during the eclipse on VHF, UHF +, etc.  Also does anyone know if the
>radio signals from the sun will be ?interrupted? as the moon passes. 
>Any info for a radio project would be appreciated.
>
>Greg
>N3MVF
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
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From w3ab at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 18 02:03:15 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:03:15 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <D9722767-E4D9-42B0-AD96-C844053853D7@gmail.com>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
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	<CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<633901d31789$92a54760$b7efd620$@internode.on.net>
	<003d01d317ac$b3c3be40$1b4b3ac0$@charter.net>
	<D9722767-E4D9-42B0-AD96-C844053853D7@gmail.com>
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Yes indeed.

How about using the amateur radio code of ethics?

It doesn't matter whether one is one the air, on the inet or in person (eye ball QSO).

We are all hams.

?___
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73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Aug 17, 2017, 16:54, at 16:54, KG5JUP <kg5jup at gmail.com> wrote:
>Can we keep it civil and high minded plz
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew, you are pretty much clueless, right?
>> 
>> 73, K7TRK
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of
>> vk4tec at internode.on.net
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:50 AM
>> To: 'Paul Stoetzer'; 'Mike Diehl'
>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
>> 
>> Sorry does not meet ur needs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: prstoetzer at gmail.com [mailto:prstoetzer at gmail.com] On Behalf Of
>Paul
>> Stoetzer
>> Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017 4:49 AM
>> To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at
>times, but
>> please cite the source of the information when you do so.
>> 
>> I would have worded the original post like this:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167
>MHz FM.
>> https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paul, N8HM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com
>> <mailto:diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> 
>> I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while.
>You
>> could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask
>yourself
>> questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". Only you
>can
>> prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Mike Diehl
>> AI6GS
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net
>> <mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>> 
>>>> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go
>back 
>>>> to
>>>> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the
>
>>>> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were 
>>>> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
>>>> 
>>>> What did I do wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167
>Mhz 
>>>>> FM at 1359 UTC
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org> . AMSAT-NA
>
>>>>> makes this open forum available to all interested persons
>worldwide 
>>>>> without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those
>of the
>> author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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From osbornes at paradise.net.nz  Fri Aug 18 02:31:34 2017
From: osbornes at paradise.net.nz (Wendy and Terry Osborne)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:31:34 +1200
Subject: [amsat-bb] Article on How to use RTL-SDR for FUNcube Telemetry
	Reception
Message-ID: <E1B2C8F9793A41DA9840737550E8FBC3@OsbornesPC>


Hi RTL-SDR users,

I?ve written an article for my local club newsletter on  ?How to use RTL-SDR for FUNcube Telemetry Reception? 
If anyone else would like a copy, I?ve put if here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsmslnjd9t5mbpq/SDR%23_FUNcubeDashboard_Pic.doc?dl=0 

For John KG4AKV, I?ve quoted your tutorial on ?How to use Heavens-above. com?.

73,
Terry Osborne ZL2BAC

From maccody at att.net  Fri Aug 18 03:05:33 2017
From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 22:05:33 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Eclipse Project Info
In-Reply-To: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>
References: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <71a9446d-1e2d-7599-a56c-7eabbdfd65f2@att.net>

Greg,

Perhaps you could quickly pull together one of the variations on the
'itty bitty radio telescope'?  You could point it at the sun before
the eclipse and note the signal drop-off as the sun is obscured.  Here
are links to a couple of plans:

Procedure for Making the Itty Bitty Radio Telescope
http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/epo/teachers/ittybitty/procedure.html

Itty Bitty Radio Telescope Observing the Sun at 12 GHz
http://www.stargazing.net/david/radio/itty_bitty_radio_telescope.html

The first is for the original version.  The second uses an RTLSDR
dongle.  Either should be fairly easy to put together.

73,

Mac Cody / AE5PH

On 08/17/2017 05:44 PM, Greg wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> A non-profit youth group is have an eclipse party during the eclipse. A science teacher will explain to the children about the eclipse etc and the group had bought the glasses that are recommended on the NASA site.
>
> Here?s where I come in?Several years ago, I use to listen to LF, ULF for lightning, atmospheric noises , etc., on an active receiver.  Is there any site, articles, info etc on frequency?s to listen to the sun during the eclipse on VHF, UHF +, etc.  Also does anyone know if the radio signals from the sun will be ?interrupted? as the moon passes.  Any info for a radio project would be appreciated.
>
> Greg
> N3MVF
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 04:05:43 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 21:05:43 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Eclipse Project Info
In-Reply-To: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>
References: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0153764B-1449-4945-A563-8ED1038D23DD@gmail.com>

One thing you may want to look into is 10.7cm or 2800MHz. This is used to gauge solar activity and is often used instead of the sunspot number. I would imagine there would be a significant change as the sun goes into eclipse. A google search for 10.7cm flux should yield more than I'm capable of explaining. 

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Greg <almetco at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> A non-profit youth group is have an eclipse party during the eclipse. A science teacher will explain to the children about the eclipse etc and the group had bought the glasses that are recommended on the NASA site.
> 
> Here?s where I come in?Several years ago, I use to listen to LF, ULF for lightning, atmospheric noises , etc., on an active receiver.  Is there any site, articles, info etc on frequency?s to listen to the sun during the eclipse on VHF, UHF +, etc.  Also does anyone know if the radio signals from the sun will be ?interrupted? as the moon passes.  Any info for a radio project would be appreciated.
> 
> Greg
> N3MVF
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From ve3nxk at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 10:14:46 2017
From: ve3nxk at gmail.com (Bill Booth)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 06:14:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Eclipse Project Info
In-Reply-To: <0153764B-1449-4945-A563-8ED1038D23DD@gmail.com>
References: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>
	<0153764B-1449-4945-A563-8ED1038D23DD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5996BE16.1070506@gmail.com>

On 2017-08-18 12:05 AM, Mike Diehl wrote:
> A google search for 10.7cm flux

You may want to view this link as the reporter mention Ham Radio in a few spots.

TamithaSkov just uploaded a video

The Eclipse Brings Space Weather: Solar Storm Forecast 08-17-2016

How the eclipse will affect amateur radio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyTmBziB4Ec&feature=em-uploademail

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From skristof at etczone.com  Fri Aug 18 11:09:04 2017
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 07:09:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Eclipse Project Info
In-Reply-To: <5996BE16.1070506@gmail.com>
References: <6403CF59-F4F5-468D-8965-459CAF7C503F@comcast.net>
	<0153764B-1449-4945-A563-8ED1038D23DD@gmail.com>
	<5996BE16.1070506@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c589a6e76b2e896406880040827c7135@etczone.com>

Here is a reasonable starting point:
http://www.radiosky.com/suncentral.html 

Steve AI9IN

From planophore at aei.ca  Fri Aug 18 12:56:47 2017
From: planophore at aei.ca (Graham)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:56:47 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Article on How to use RTL-SDR for FUNcube Telemetry
 Reception
In-Reply-To: <E1B2C8F9793A41DA9840737550E8FBC3@OsbornesPC>
References: <E1B2C8F9793A41DA9840737550E8FBC3@OsbornesPC>
Message-ID: <576a8a42-8ad1-131a-4c26-235a98b537cc@aei.ca>

Thank you for posting Terry.

I have a copy, had a quick look. Looks interesting, and will read in 
detail later on. This is something I was just thinking of having a go at.

One suggestion, I would post such documents as a PDF rather than a .doc 
file.  PDF's are not as easily messed with (i.e. viruses) and pdf's are 
a bit more universal. Not everyone has Microsoft Word or compatible 
program. Word and the open source office applications typically permit 
saving your document as a pdf or you can use a something like Cute PDF 
which looks like a printer driver on your computer and you can "print" 
whatever document you have to a pdf.

cheers, Graham ve3gtc FN25ig near Ottawa Canada


On 2017-08-18 02:31, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote:
> Hi RTL-SDR users,
>
> I?ve written an article for my local club newsletter on  ?How to use RTL-SDR for FUNcube Telemetry Reception?
> If anyone else would like a copy, I?ve put if here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsmslnjd9t5mbpq/SDR%23_FUNcubeDashboard_Pic.doc?dl=0
>
> For John KG4AKV, I?ve quoted your tutorial on ?How to use Heavens-above. com?.
>
> 73,
> Terry Osborne ZL2BAC
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From petew2jv at verizon.net  Fri Aug 18 19:15:20 2017
From: petew2jv at verizon.net (W2JV)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:15:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lighthouse Lightship Weekend
Message-ID: <31323DD4B6C64BA6B9E1DF21DB170A87@DESKTOP8A7S6MK>

International Lighthouse Lightship Weekend
00.01 UTC 19 August to 2400 UTC 20 August 2017 (48 hours)
Hello All,
Since 1998, amateur radio operators around the world have been participating in ILLW.   W2JV, will be doing satellite forums and live demonstrations during the weekend.  I will be operating on all available passes from the Fire Island Lighthouse,FN30IV, US0019, as W2GSB from 1400 U Saturday thru 1900 U Sunday.   A colorful QSL card is available, visit www.w2gsb.org for more information.  It is likely that other satellite operations from other Lighthouses in the US and other countries will be on the air.  If you cant find any new grids this weekend, you can start a new goal of collecting Lighthouse/Lightship contacts, have fun.

73?s W2JV
Peter


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From AJ9N at aol.com  Fri Aug 18 19:19:58 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:19:58 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-18 19:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <238096.2acaf6fa.46c897de@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-18  19:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Fleet Science Center, BE WISE Program, San Diego, CA,  direct via KJ6KDZ 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The  scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact cancelled due to  conflict with Russian Experiment: Sat 2017-08-19 
16:44:41 UTC 32 deg  (***)

Montreal Childrens Hospital, Montreal, QC, Canada, telebridge  via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The  scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact on hold due to conflict  with Russian experiment: Tue 2017-08-22 
17:20:25 UTC 58 deg via W6SRJ  (***)

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 124 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
Sergey RV3DR with 100  

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-18 19:00 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1154. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1113. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-16 05:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From petew2jv at verizon.net  Fri Aug 18 19:21:15 2017
From: petew2jv at verizon.net (W2JV)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:21:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw:  Lighthouse Lightship Weekend
Message-ID: <9E44E696DA394BBB947E4C5068B0CA85@DESKTOP8A7S6MK>

Correction on website, thank you- W2JV


International Lighthouse Lightship Weekend
00.01 UTC 19 August to 2400 UTC 20 August 2017 (48 hours)
Hello All,
Since 1998, amateur radio operators around the world have been participating 
in ILLW.   W2JV, will be doing satellite forums and live demonstrations 
during the weekend.  I will be operating on all available passes from the 
Fire Island Lighthouse,FN30IV, US0019, as W2GSB from 1400 U Saturday thru 
1900 U Sunday.   A colorful QSL card is available, visit  www.gsbarc.org for 
more information.  It is likely that other satellite operations from other 
Lighthouses in the US and other countries will be on the air.  If you cant 
find any new grids this weekend, you can start a new goal of collecting 
Lighthouse/Lightship contacts, have fun.

73?s W2JV
Peter


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From dave4e at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 18 19:48:42 2017
From: dave4e at yahoo.com (Dave Ryan)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 19:48:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA Audio 143.625 & 130.167 Mhz
References: <923967316.477747.1503085722805.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <923967316.477747.1503085722805@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all 

Recording of EVA Audio heard over UK on 143.625 Mhz and 130.167 Mhz FM 

https://youtu.be/BW8PPu1dwj0

Dave EI4HT / M0GIW 


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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Aug 18 22:34:33 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 18:34:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: APRS,
	AM radio and the solar Eclipse (Cloud Reporting)
In-Reply-To: <d082e3fae7c500d6d7ba8413d1ebdfc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <eb0fe18f6d353c804ba77e87757b6612@mail.gmail.com>
	25ca342f591fc23cd542eaeb6ea3e9b6@mail.gmail.com
	<d082e3fae7c500d6d7ba8413d1ebdfc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e1d0eb1fb9f871e0ed2774df93053a22@mail.gmail.com>

Reminder for AMSAT operators out in remote locations doing Eclipse stuff on
Monday:

0) The QIKCOM-1 Digipeater satellite will NOT be deployed as earlier
mentioned.  It is TBD.

1) Set your radio?s SYMBOL to the SUNNY symbol (\U).  (for easy ID)

2) Once on location, maintain your STATUS to report your WX.  Something
like:   ?Clouds 25% at 1015 EDT?

3) See where everyone is on FINDU.COM.
http://findu.com/cgi-bin/symbol.cgi?icon=\U&limit=200

4) Watch for Balloons on 144.39 or 144.34, and on
http://findu.com/cgi-bin/symbol.cgi?icon=/O&limit=200

5) Tune the HF bands, there is an ECLIPSE CONTEST going on?  Google it?

6) There are numerous other Ham experiments.  see: http://HamSCI.org

7) Do the AM radio experiment listed there by listening for the 13 clear
channel AM radio stations below near the path of totality.

8) CQ to others by sending a CQ via the CQSRVR.  Send message to CQSRVR and
begin text with CQ ECLIPSE? and your report. Update your CQ MSG every 30
mins (that?s the limit).  The ANSRVR des the same thing but has no time
limit.  Once you see other calls from their CQSRVR or ANSRVR messages, then
you can message one-on-one to them by callsign.

[LIST OF AM CLEAR CHANNEL STATIONS]
  kHz CALL    Location          Eclipse UTC
------ -------  ----------------  --------------
  650 WSM   Nashville, TN   18:28
  670 KBOI    Boise, ID          17:27
  750 WSB    Atlanta, GA      18:36
  840 WHAS Louisville, KY    18:27
  880 KRVN  Lexington, NE  17:57
1030 KTWO Casper, WY      17:43
1040 WHO   DesMoines, IA 18:08
1110 KFAB   Omaha, NE       18:04
1110 WBT   Charlotte, NC   18:41
1120 KPNW Eugene, OR      17:17
1120 KMOX St. Louis, MO   18:18
1190 KEX      Portland, OR    17:19
1510 WLAC  Nashville, TN   18:28

Bob Bruninga, WB4APR at amsat.org

From devin at thecabal.org  Fri Aug 18 22:00:04 2017
From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:00:04 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] EVA
In-Reply-To: <CANq+eyVVduEM9qaf+qiPNttqRUbsekqHnCiteSgyGy25_g29og@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A58346EE-1BDC-4105-B484-BF1C7447D9C9@internode.on.net>
	<ed430a84-be0d-ed66-5d50-9ae8fdf8197d@gmail.com>
	<047D461F-DB22-41F0-8D43-700A3E69D0A1@internode.on.net>
	<A3982F3E-68A8-4741-94AF-DEC3C9D60C0E@gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOrdvjbzDMyBKS8S-Ri_z7ftxhd2WLRrvqcVymbVKUEvMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<633901d31789$92a54760$b7efd620$@internode.on.net>
	<003d01d317ac$b3c3be40$1b4b3ac0$@charter.net>
	<CANq+eyVVduEM9qaf+qiPNttqRUbsekqHnCiteSgyGy25_g29og@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR01MB2764E81F2F6C95ADFBD8832ECA800@DM5PR01MB2764.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Al,,

Those of us who are on spectrum and want to get into this hobby can find these casual shots very off-putting. "Spectrum disorder" is not the equivalent of "social issues" -- many of us on spectrum work VERY HARD on our social skills -- and "social issues" is not the equivalent of "behaving in a fashion I personally find irritating."

Even though this is AMSAT and not the IETF, and we are people not TCP/IP stacks, maybe we can all benefit from the guidance of Postel's Law in RFC 761: "TCP implementations should follow a general principle of robustness: be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you accept from others."

--
Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG)
email:?devin at thecabal.org
web:?Devin on Earth
cell:?+1 425.239.2575

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of David Swanson
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:16 PM
To: &lt,amsat-bb at amsat.org&gt, <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA

I'm going with spectrum disorder of some form.... either that or a glorious troll worthy of all of our adoration.

List Mods: Please help? Thanks.



-Dave, KG5CCI

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:

> Andrew, you are pretty much clueless, right?
>
> 73, K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of 
> vk4tec at internode.on.net
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:50 AM
> To: 'Paul Stoetzer'; 'Mike Diehl'
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
>
> Sorry does not meet ur needs
>
>
>
> From: prstoetzer at gmail.com [mailto:prstoetzer at gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Stoetzer
> Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017 4:49 AM
> To: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
> Cc: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EVA
>
>
>
> Relaying certain information from Twitter might be appropriate at 
> times, but please cite the source of the information when you do so.
>
> I would have worded the original post like this:
>
>
>
> "M0GIW reports ISS EVA activity was heard on 143.625 MHz and 130.167 
> MHz FM.
> https://twitter.com/M0GIW/status/898186526877724677"
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com 
> <mailto:diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I think maybe you need to take a break from the internet for a while. 
> You could also stop and think before hitting that send button. Ask 
> yourself questions like "am I adding any value to the conversation?". 
> Only you can prevent a whole group of people from having to hit the delete button.
>
> 73,
>
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS
>
>
> > On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at internode.on.net
> <mailto:vk4tec at internode.on.net> > wrote:
> >
> > Nothing I just relayed from another station in twitter
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 18 Aug 2017, at 3:33 am, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com
> <mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Andrew,
> >>
> >> Curious...  Where was this monitored?  If I tell gpredict to go 
> >> back to
> >> 13:59 UTC today (about 3.5 hrs ago), the ISS appears to be over the 
> >> middle of the Atlantic Ocean, headed for the U.K.  If you were 
> >> monitoring in Australia, that's not possible.
> >>
> >> What did I do wrong?
> >>
> >> Greg  KO6TH
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew Rich wrote:
> >>> Heard stron carrier and voice in Russian on 143.625 and 130.167 
> >>> Mhz FM at 1359 UTC
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Sun Aug 20 00:30:17 2017
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 19:30:17 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/VE9 - Sunday, August 20
In-Reply-To: <CAPovOwfAgn=Ji5daPcg888VKMgrWfaGfAcgz-=nhi92osseZvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPovOwfYN1v4bg-c2s0CAEbFC2Z2r0WXKQEPvvvxSg-R6QAFWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPovOwdEupd1zOGdiO08F0B-WdGo1J+RYDAfysPb2VNccFoosg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPovOweXoh9sWFA-rKfs9kScp43szB8HejTJHYyX68sJ2eVE-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPovOweM_Yhga4nvzACCT21_qcfC05WC=JWsAu3xsiV+BX6ARg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPovOwfAgn=Ji5daPcg888VKMgrWfaGfAcgz-=nhi92osseZvw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPovOwcqL89pn=Ht3VqJVrHJqvahbkG6yYzgmdNS-Kk2gj3SGw@mail.gmail.com>

I plan to operate the following passes tomorrow from Campabello Island in
New Brunswick, Canada on Sunday, August 20:

13:19 SO-50
13:44 FO-29
14:17 AO-73

Grid FN64

I have quite a bit of travel to do tomorrow, so I cannot honor any other
specific pass requests for this location. I'll work other passes but the
ones listed are specific to the VE9 operation.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

From n8hm at arrl.net  Sun Aug 20 03:42:55 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 23:42:55 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] July/August 2017 Apogee View posted
Message-ID: <CABzOSOprpX1gq-jXEU4yNniR2jC+gUu8dotDRjMhVZFpVcDCrA@mail.gmail.com>

The July/August 2017 edition of Apogee View has been posted on the AMSAT
website at https://www.amsat.org/apogeeview/

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Secretary
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)

From g0mrf at aol.com  Sun Aug 20 10:18:43 2017
From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 06:18:43 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Monitoring satellite telemetry during solar eclipse
Message-ID: <15dff26d62f-c05-35f4@webjas-vab248.srv.aolmail.net>

Hi all.

1 day to go and I hope your weather forecasts are good!  

Looking at a few of the available satellites, it seems that the best opportunity for one of them passing through totality
is the AO-85 pass that begins over Alaska in the NW at 19.07 UTC and then passes down across the path of the eclipse just off the Coast of GA and FL at 19.22 UTC If you are in the South East USA then you should be able to pick up telemetry as it passes through or very close to totality..

AO-73 + EO-88  both transmit real time telemetry every 5 seconds and they see a partial eclipse. The exact percentage is
a little difficult to predict but the graphs produced on their ground station 'dashboard' software should show some 'eclipse effects'
The sun sensors on AO-73 produce a graph of log Lux against time.

If you happen to get some good results, please get a screen grab of the graph or save the tlm file. It's always good to see the effects
of these rare events on the satellites.

AO-85    19.07 to 19.27    Best at 19.22 UTC

AO-73     16.33 to 16.26   Descending pass via UT AZ CA
EO-88     18.12 to 18.24   Descending west coast

and for a satellite's eye view...    https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap990830.html

73

David  G0MRF





From kayakfishtx at gmail.com  Sun Aug 20 15:24:30 2017
From: kayakfishtx at gmail.com (Clayton Coleman)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 10:24:30 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/VE9 to EU 15:34Z 20-Aug AO-85
In-Reply-To: <CAPovOwdZum+CthkzbJ-gWA5ZPZU2YoKyuC-rPOHT+8EyBPuy-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPovOweke3yeTQFem66HdpYFpfmLeJ_mnaCnRYuWxgzcct2tUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPovOwdZum+CthkzbJ-gWA5ZPZU2YoKyuC-rPOHT+8EyBPuy-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPovOwfvjtmwZAb+PSG8zkwkEb21LD0VH1s=M3JynUVa-wYygw@mail.gmail.com>

Looking for any EU stations on 15:34Z AO-85 today August, 20.

73
Clayton
W5PFG/VE9
FN64mu

From kt4tz at cfl.rr.com  Sun Aug 20 14:20:04 2017
From: kt4tz at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 10:20:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-232 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <2af2436e-772f-34cc-7f96-fc7c524696b4@cfl.rr.com>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-232

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Cubesats Deployed During Russian EVA - TOMSK TPU-120 Reported Active
* Pat Gowen, G3IOR, Silent Key August 17
* AMSAT Fox-1B Completes P-POD Integration
* AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation Update Report
* AMSAT 2017 Symposium Call for Papers
* AMSAT Journal Packet Articles Added to Station and Operating Hints Page

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-232.01
ANS-232 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 232.01
 ?From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE August 20, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-232.01

Cubesats Deployed During Russian EVA - TOMSK TPU-120 Reported Active

News on the AMSAT-UK webf described the hand-deployment plans
of three Russian Cubesats during a spacewalk this week:

Expedition 52 Commander Fyodor Yurchikhin, RN3FI and Flight
Engineer Sergey Ryazanskiy, of the Russian space agency
Roscosmos, conducted a planned extravehicular activity from
the ISS on Thursday, August 17.

Ryazanskiy began the schedule of extravehicular activities
with the manual deployment of five nanosatellites from a
ladder outside the airlock.

The satellites, each of which has a mass of about 11 pounds,
have a variety of purposes. [the satellites are thought to
include Tanyusha-SWSU 1 & 2 and Tomsk-TPU-120]

One of the satellites, with casings made using 3-D printing
technology, will test the effect of the low-Earth-orbit
environment on the composition of 3-D printed materials.
Another satellite contains recorded greetings to the people
of Earth in 11 languages. A third satellite commemorates
the 60th anniversary of the Sputnik 1 launch and the 160th
anniversary of the birth of Russian scientist Konstantin
Tsiolkovsky.

Thanks to Mike, DK3WN for this post-deployment information:
http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?cat=325
TOMSK TPU-120 (RS04S)?? 437.025 MHz??? digital voice
Tanusha-SWSU-1 (RS-6S)? 437.050 MHz??? 9k6 FSK, digital voice
Tanusha-SWSU-2 (RS-7S)? 437.050 MHz??? 9k6 FSK, digital voice

[ANS thanks Mike, DK3WN, and AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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Pat Gowen, G3IOR, Silent Key August 17

AMSAT-UK reported that Pat Gowen, G3IOR became a silent key
on August 17. Pat was the amateur radio operator who made the
discovery on June 21, 2002 that AO-7 was transmitting again.

Pat posted a message on the amsat-bb, "I have just come across
something most remarkable this Friday 21st June evening. Checking
out interlopers in our 145.800 - 146.000 MHz space band with a
new vertical now atop my 60' tower and working like magic, at
1728UTC I came across a beacon at? S.7 sending slow 8 -10 wpm
CW on 145.973.8 MHz. It slowly Dopplered down to 145.970 MHz
before going out at 1739 UTC."

Pat's original message and follow-up replies can be accessed in the
amsat-bb archives:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200206/msg00525.html

[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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AMSAT Fox-1B Completes P-POD Integration

Tuesday, August 15 Jerry Buxton, N?JY, Vice President Engineering,
delivered RadFxSat, our AMSAT Fox-1B CubeSat, built in partnership
with Vanderbilt University to Cal Poly University.

RadFsSat/Fox-1B was successfully integrated into the P-POD cubesat
deployment container on August 16 along with her pod-mates
Makersat-0 and EagleSat. Launch qualification vibration testing
of the integrated P-POD was completed on August 17.

The P-POD will next be mounted on the ULA Delta II rocket for launch
no earlier than October 12, 2017.

At the conclusion of integration and testing Jerry commented, "Many
thanks to the Cal Poly, Tyvak, and NASA personnel who we performed
the integration with, to the Makersat-0 and EagleSat team members,
and to my west coast AMSAT CubeSat wing man Al Vasso for a successful
and fun day!"

Look for photos and more news to be published in the AMSAT Journal.

RadFxSat/Fox-1B
Uplink:??? 435.250 MHz FM (67.0 Hz CTCSS tone for access)
Downlink:? 145.960 MHz FM (with subaudible slow speed telemetry data)
 ?????????? 145.960 MHz 9600 baud FSK data

[ANS thanks Jerry Buxton, N?JY, AMSAT Vice President Engineering for the
above information]


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AMSAT Phase 4 Groundstation Update Report

Michelle Thompson, W5NYV has published this week's AMSAT Phase 4
Ground Weekly Report - video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZxGfh1Es_I&feature=youtu.be

The video provides photos and full discussion of the Team's report.
Below is a summary of the highlights, editted for the news format
of the e-mailed ANS bulletins.

So there's quite the backlog. Let's get caught up. We have a True
Position GPS 10 MHz reference with Arduino and display. A very nice
system for the money, and we have a session scheduled with the local
microwave club to get them up and running for some Phase 4 Ground
receiver development.

LDPC decode work took some strides forward primarily due to Charles
Brain G4GUO and Jan Schiefer AC7TD. Check out the repository in the
notes. There will be some more updates there very soon on-line at:
https://github.com/phase4ground/DVB-receiver

Two B200s compliments of Ettus Research have been delivered to
Phase 4 Ground members for R&D. Wally Ritchie WU1Y and Mike Sprenger
and Tony Stone W4UOO & W4TAS are the current responsible parties and
are learning and doing. This very generous donation is greatly
appreciated. If you are in the market for a lab-grade SDR, then go
to Ettus and tell them Michelle W5NYV sent you.

We're making progress on receivers for DVB-S2 in GNU Radio. We
demonstrated the current smoking pile of various blocks at Hamvention,
and then Maker Faire, and then DEFCON. We will next bring our work
to GNU Radio Conference in September, hopefully that same weekend
at TAPR DCC, and then we will bring what will by then be a complete
and perfect flow graph to AMSAT Symposium in October. An added bonus?
If we can swing it, we'll bring all the wireless challenge exercises
from GNU Radio Conference to AMSAT Symposium and be on hand to teach
anyone that wants to learn how to use GNU Radio to solve them.

Oh, and there's another Maker Faire in there somewhere and I think
we should set up a booth. If you're in or around San Diego, Maker
Faire will be at Balboa Park on October 7-8. I have a tower trailer
for traditional demonstrations but I'm looking to show off satellite,
SDR, and digital microwave.

We will have Phase 4 Ground members at Microwave Update, IEEE conferences,
GNU Radio Conference, TAPR DCC, and AMSAT Sympsosium. Most of these
conferences will have papers and/or presentations. If you have never
been to any of them, please check them out. These are some of the
premier annual events for various overlapping technical communities.
We had a very successful Hamvention.

Visit https://youtu.be/vHI96TRXchk for a great video of our Hamvention
AMSAT engineering booth! Thank you to EC1AME for posting this.

We had an extremely successful DEFCON. Phase 4 Ground promoted AMSAT,
SDRs, and GNU Radio to one of the largest and most enthusiastic crowds
we've ever seen. This was the 25th anniversary of DEFCON, in a new
location, and we were invited to be a part of the Wireless Village
for all three days as an anchor exhibit and demonstration station.
This was a very successful outreach by any measure and we are already
planning for next year.

If you can help with the GNU Radio DVB-S2 receiver blocks, then do
it now because we need more people working on it to make quick progress.
Other areas of activity are Phase 4 Ground support of the wireless signal
intelligence competition, or CTF, at GNU Radio Conference, and a hackable
amateur radio themed badge project. Steve Conklin is coordinating and his
first deadline is a February hardware hackers cruise out of San Diego.
Next stop after that, Hamvention 2018. If you are interested in badgelife,
Bluetooth, integrating VHF/UHF into a hackable wearable badge project,
then do we have a challenge for you.

Phase 4 Ground will also be at Burning Man. An upcoming video will
focus on what we learn from our desert hackathon. The focus will be
on getting ahead on DVB-S2 receive and coming up with challenges for
the GNU Radio CTF.

If you have not got your ticket to GNU Radio Conference, then please do.
Link in the notes. www.gnuradio.org

Besides producing a radio for AMSAT five and dime, we all want to show
how truly fun SDR and GNU Radio and embedded devices and digital
communications really are. If you have questions or don't know where
to start, then please write me w5nyv at yahoo.com

[ANS thank Michelle Thompson, W5NYV for the above information]


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AMSAT 2017 Symposium Call for Papers

This call for papers is for the 2017 AMSAT Annual Meeting and Space 
Symposium to
be held on the weekend of October 27, 28, 29, 2017 at the Silver Legacy 
Resort,
Reno, Nevada. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations and poster
presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite
community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as
possible, with final copy to be submitted by October 6 for inclusion in the
printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz 
N8FGV at
n8fgv at amsat.org

[ANS thanks Dan, N8FGV, for the above information]


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AMSAT Journal Packet Articles Added to Station and Operating Hints Page

The AMSAT Station and Operating Hints page has been updated to include
PDF copies of the packet operating articles recently published in the
AMSAT Journal. See https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/

+ January/February 2017 AMSAT Journal article "Get on the Air with ARISS
 ? Packet" (PDF ~500 KB) ? How to set up and use computer & soundcard to
 ? work the packet system aboard the ISS and other APRS-capable satellites.

+ January/February 2017 AMSAT Journal article "Working Digipeaters with
 ? the Kenwood TH-D72A and TH-D74A" (PDF ~300 KB) ? How to use the
 ? packet/APRS capability of these radios to work the packet system aboard
 ? the ISS and other APRS-capable satellites.

AMSAT members received this issue of the AMSAT Journal several months
ago. The AMSAT Journal is a premium membership benefit of AMSAT. Please
consider joining AMSAT if you are not already a member. Visit
https://www.amsat.org/product-category/amsat-membership/ to sign up
today!

[ANS thanks the AMSAT Web Page Guys for the above information]


/EX

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President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
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Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
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Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KT4TZ
kt4tz at amsat dot org


From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 20 11:52:05 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:52:05 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
Message-ID: <57D1F0C3-042A-417E-81A9-BAAE31120912@internode.on.net>

Am i missing something 

NO-84 or PSAT is very active on my ISS / PSAT website 

I have it down as 145.825 MHz

I have listened to it in light and dark.

I have proved my setup on local APRS

I have not copied a peep out of NO-84

Andrew 

From vk4tec at internode.on.net  Sun Aug 20 12:13:36 2017
From: vk4tec at internode.on.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 22:13:36 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat reporter ISS PSAT reporter website hacked and taken
	down
Message-ID: <7BB60A6D-2C8D-4310-A415-3BDEC6F0144E@internode.on.net>

It is sad state of affairs when some jerk in the USA decided to exploit my gift to the satellite community 

Seems there are some vindictive jeulous people out there 

The IP Address hack came from a comcast business customer in California 

I was forced to lodge an investigation with comcast business in the USA TCPIP 50.255.43.233

50-255-43-233-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net

When I contacted their online support the clueless individual had no idea what to do.

This has made me think twice about helping the satellite community in the future 

http://59.167.159.165 <http://59.167.159.165/>



From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Sun Aug 20 17:52:13 2017
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 10:52:13 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <57D1F0C3-042A-417E-81A9-BAAE31120912@internode.on.net>
References: <57D1F0C3-042A-417E-81A9-BAAE31120912@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <56e04e47-e09c-a0f6-ddb6-87f603d41d4a@gmail.com>

Hard to say.  The OSCAR Status page does indicate that others have heard
it, but passes here in CM98 are currently at very inopportune times
(middle of the night, mostly), so I have not heard it myself.

If you are decoding RF traffic from the ISS but not PSAT, it's probably
that the satellite isn't in packet mode at the time.  Most of the time
it only does PSK31.

Greg  KO6TH


Andrew Rich wrote:
> Am i missing something 
>
> NO-84 or PSAT is very active on my ISS / PSAT website 
>
> I have it down as 145.825 MHz
>
> I have listened to it in light and dark.
>
> I have proved my setup on local APRS
>
> I have not copied a peep out of NO-84
>
> Andrew 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From nss at mwt.net  Sun Aug 20 18:01:12 2017
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 13:01:12 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <56e04e47-e09c-a0f6-ddb6-87f603d41d4a@gmail.com>
References: <57D1F0C3-042A-417E-81A9-BAAE31120912@internode.on.net>
	<56e04e47-e09c-a0f6-ddb6-87f603d41d4a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ec170564-9f96-0521-8390-57eaf63d5988@mwt.net>

No-84 is a unique bird.
If everyone is listening you will hear NOTHING on the FM downlink.

For the downlink transmitter to come on it must hear the 10 Meter PSK-31 
tones.
Once it hears them then the transmitter comes on. Once the tones are 
gone there is like  10 second hang time like a regular FM repeater then 
the transmitter shuts down.

To hear anything someone HAS to be transmitting.

as far as bad timing, just keep listening the passes slowly rotate timewise.


Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/20/2017 12:52 PM, Greg D wrote:
> Hard to say.  The OSCAR Status page does indicate that others have heard
> it, but passes here in CM98 are currently at very inopportune times
> (middle of the night, mostly), so I have not heard it myself.
>
> If you are decoding RF traffic from the ISS but not PSAT, it's probably
> that the satellite isn't in packet mode at the time.  Most of the time
> it only does PSK31.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> Andrew Rich wrote:
>> Am i missing something
>>
>> NO-84 or PSAT is very active on my ISS / PSAT website
>>
>> I have it down as 145.825 MHz
>>
>> I have listened to it in light and dark.
>>
>> I have proved my setup on local APRS
>>
>> I have not copied a peep out of NO-84
>>
>> Andrew
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>


From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net  Sun Aug 20 18:07:04 2017
From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 18:07:04 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <56e04e47-e09c-a0f6-ddb6-87f603d41d4a@gmail.com>
References: <57D1F0C3-042A-417E-81A9-BAAE31120912@internode.on.net>
	<56e04e47-e09c-a0f6-ddb6-87f603d41d4a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6TEUdMxhdvsHw+xisYjuWr7=LJh1JzUJL_rfaZ+x4p2ecMnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

NO-84 will at least transmit beacon packets when the digipeater
on 145.825 MHz is off. It uses PSAT as its call sign when the
digipeater is on, and PSAT-1 when the digipeater is off. You
will also see APRSON in the path for the beacon packets when
the digipeater is on, and APOFF when it is off.

It is possible that a station capable of copying ISS packets
may not work as well for NO-84. NO-84's digipeater has less
transmit power than any of the radios used on the ISS for
145.825 MHz packet. With my Elk antenna and either of my Kenwood
HTs (TH-D74, TH-D72), I do OK with NO-84 when the digipeater is
on.

WB4APR has more information about NO-84 at:

http://aprs.org/psat.html

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK



On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hard to say.  The OSCAR Status page does indicate that others have heard
> it, but passes here in CM98 are currently at very inopportune times
> (middle of the night, mostly), so I have not heard it myself.
>
> If you are decoding RF traffic from the ISS but not PSAT, it's probably
> that the satellite isn't in packet mode at the time.  Most of the time
> it only does PSK31.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
>

From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 20 19:28:05 2017
From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 19:28:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR DCC, St. Louis,
 9/15 - 17 Registration & Special Hotel Room Rates
In-Reply-To: <1286597103.1288965.1503186085813@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1369844370.1293885.1503185893712.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1369844370.1293885.1503185893712@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1286597103.1288965.1503186085813@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1743343527.1602409.1503257285903@mail.yahoo.com>



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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Sun Aug 20 20:07:12 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 06:07:12 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <CAN6TEUdMxhdvsHw+xisYjuWr7=LJh1JzUJL_rfaZ+x4p2ecMnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57D1F0C3-042A-417E-81A9-BAAE31120912@internode.on.net>
	<56e04e47-e09c-a0f6-ddb6-87f603d41d4a@gmail.com>
	<CAN6TEUdMxhdvsHw+xisYjuWr7=LJh1JzUJL_rfaZ+x4p2ecMnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <547BF4CA-1D29-48FE-B619-7081F5D32DC3@tech-software.net>

Thanks Patrick 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Aug 2017, at 4:07 am, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> NO-84 will at least transmit beacon packets when the digipeater
> on 145.825 MHz is off. It uses PSAT as its call sign when the
> digipeater is on, and PSAT-1 when the digipeater is off. You
> will also see APRSON in the path for the beacon packets when
> the digipeater is on, and APOFF when it is off.
> 
> It is possible that a station capable of copying ISS packets
> may not work as well for NO-84. NO-84's digipeater has less
> transmit power than any of the radios used on the ISS for
> 145.825 MHz packet. With my Elk antenna and either of my Kenwood
> HTs (TH-D74, TH-D72), I do OK with NO-84 when the digipeater is
> on.
> 
> WB4APR has more information about NO-84 at:
> 
> http://aprs.org/psat.html
> 
> 73!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hard to say.  The OSCAR Status page does indicate that others have heard
>> it, but passes here in CM98 are currently at very inopportune times
>> (middle of the night, mostly), so I have not heard it myself.
>> 
>> If you are decoding RF traffic from the ISS but not PSAT, it's probably
>> that the satellite isn't in packet mode at the time.  Most of the time
>> it only does PSK31.
>> 
>> Greg  KO6TH
>> 
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 15:35:14 2017
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:35:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS crossband repeater may be active
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKMWBCjXT8Nqn2m_iYdraiDN7Go27K1b8vfbqbJ62rs8rQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKN1s6vKQpUxY7=Yw110Z4BKmc7HQ5dRWBf4qQq=N-tckQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKO-c=EpyuRG8Q+MyGc4ofDChcbo9r5xhr1dKoF5mu-F+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKP3dQgKwynv+h28EJgnw+50DiHYDbDJJWRE8F+Sx0WY7w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKNdqU1K3Fidh_v9xycs19UZ6jhcVKt+Ab6DhKhHBchQ2w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKNCNFckvQQ=mRy2DAnMMsr2Dd3BMjYcguRHt0SVT2_eZg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKPCiH9S98MhB33HXuTEd8MfdSpBfVuxhHSTWV5OZ+kspg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKNtTvU2=8Z4L_cAd_O10T-pUi7qibJJeLPNr2-v4x4F1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKNC8=NfUutk4yZQb2QPr5n_zCKM_ghPZW+SwRDy_aw9JQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOS8cThUKZ=eDkZzgOCh4VjzpP0XLjpofkx4LEzdqwQ7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOrunSLTg7aDwaUFKxWuaZKfhPmF5ORjiinMffW_CmFVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMaDHCpPMtLHO83N8x0jxRdMq+XkXMW_KkWykvS1-cc3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKP7Js25uF+Oc0PCHYaO6f+kCmSEcvojNdJK8rht4-Y3qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKO_RrPzjr4PxrXks1tYEjGFT0TJdKZL9YW7T2hUEgK8NA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMWBCjXT8Nqn2m_iYdraiDN7Go27K1b8vfbqbJ62rs8rQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOmUZPqn4dD8jwvN3Lj1MX-rezNJgSR-WWTcCf=dRd9=Q@mail.gmail.com>

ISS repeater may be active to retransmit one of the the satellites
(Tanusha?) launched by hand by the Russians on the recent EVA.

YO9GJX report:

145.800 down, 437.050 up

 https://instaud.io/1c5z

ISS fan club report from EU a day or so ago.

https://www.issfanclub.com/node/43874

I just listened to a 23 degree pass in SC while mobile and heard some short
weak transmissions. My buddy I'm with said he heard some voice in one of
them

73, John Brier KG4AKV

From AJ9N at aol.com  Mon Aug 21 15:41:28 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:41:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-21 15:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <27620c.4e034760.46cc5928@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-21  15:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Montreal Childrens Hospital, Montreal, QC, Canada,  telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact cancelled  due to conflict with Russian experiment: Tue 2017-08-22 
17:20:25 UTC 58 deg via  W6SRJ (***)

Student Space Technology Association, Knoxville, TN,  direct via AA4UT 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The  scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA (***)
Contact is a go for: Thu  2017-08-31 17:42:14 UTC 60 deg  (***)

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 124 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
Sergey RV3DR with 100  

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-21 15:30 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1154. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1113. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-16 05:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From ec4tr.luis at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 17:19:39 2017
From: ec4tr.luis at gmail.com (EC4TR Luis)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:19:39 +0200
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS crossband repeater may be active
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOmUZPqn4dD8jwvN3Lj1MX-rezNJgSR-WWTcCf=dRd9=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKN1s6vKQpUxY7=Yw110Z4BKmc7HQ5dRWBf4qQq=N-tckQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CALn0fKNtTvU2=8Z4L_cAd_O10T-pUi7qibJJeLPNr2-v4x4F1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKNC8=NfUutk4yZQb2QPr5n_zCKM_ghPZW+SwRDy_aw9JQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOS8cThUKZ=eDkZzgOCh4VjzpP0XLjpofkx4LEzdqwQ7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOrunSLTg7aDwaUFKxWuaZKfhPmF5ORjiinMffW_CmFVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMaDHCpPMtLHO83N8x0jxRdMq+XkXMW_KkWykvS1-cc3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKP7Js25uF+Oc0PCHYaO6f+kCmSEcvojNdJK8rht4-Y3qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKO_RrPzjr4PxrXks1tYEjGFT0TJdKZL9YW7T2hUEgK8NA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKMWBCjXT8Nqn2m_iYdraiDN7Go27K1b8vfbqbJ62rs8rQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKOmUZPqn4dD8jwvN3Lj1MX-rezNJgSR-WWTcCf=dRd9=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <453edbfc-39e5-0973-b724-a05349a01e36@gmail.com>

Hi John

thanks for sharing, I made my first contact via ISS with IW1DUT with 
very strong signal, I think it would be possible even with a handy.

73 Luis

EC4TR


El 21/08/2017 a las 17:35, John Brier escribi?:
> ISS repeater may be active to retransmit one of the the satellites
> (Tanusha?) launched by hand by the Russians on the recent EVA.
>
> YO9GJX report:
>
> 145.800 down, 437.050 up
>
>   https://instaud.io/1c5z
>
> ISS fan club report from EU a day or so ago.
>
> https://www.issfanclub.com/node/43874
>
> I just listened to a 23 degree pass in SC while mobile and heard some short
> weak transmissions. My buddy I'm with said he heard some voice in one of
> them
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 17:33:01 2017
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:33:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] My eclipse playlist
Message-ID: <CAHC1P29fM8YAFgsW9fKxxfcLg-jWb-2hMwQyz3V_vvTduYW89g@mail.gmail.com>

Pink Floyd-Astronomy Domine
                 Interstellar Overdrive
                 Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun

The Grateful Dead-Dark Star!

73 John AF5CC

From andrewbnortham at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 16:54:15 2017
From: andrewbnortham at gmail.com (Andrew Northam)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:54:15 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS crossband repeater may be active
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOmUZPqn4dD8jwvN3Lj1MX-rezNJgSR-WWTcCf=dRd9=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALn0fKN1s6vKQpUxY7=Yw110Z4BKmc7HQ5dRWBf4qQq=N-tckQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <79234D7B-EA7C-4EB4-B664-9F4606263A0B@gmail.com>

It was active! I heard a few other voices, but once I got my radio dialed in he was gone. I called out a handful of times and could clearly hear myself. I ended up with a 74.4 tone active to get in, but that may just have been timing and not necessary!

Thanks John

-Andrew/KE8FZT 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:35 AM, John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ISS repeater may be active to retransmit one of the the satellites
> (Tanusha?) launched by hand by the Russians on the recent EVA.
> 
> YO9GJX report:
> 
> 145.800 down, 437.050 up
> 
> https://instaud.io/1c5z
> 
> ISS fan club report from EU a day or so ago.
> 
> https://www.issfanclub.com/node/43874
> 
> I just listened to a 23 degree pass in SC while mobile and heard some short
> weak transmissions. My buddy I'm with said he heard some voice in one of
> them
> 
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

From kq6ea at verizon.net  Mon Aug 21 17:44:16 2017
From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 17:44:16 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] My eclipse playlist
In-Reply-To: <CAHC1P29fM8YAFgsW9fKxxfcLg-jWb-2hMwQyz3V_vvTduYW89g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHC1P29fM8YAFgsW9fKxxfcLg-jWb-2hMwQyz3V_vvTduYW89g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1b77641c-2241-399e-853d-d87b46514f95@verizon.net>

You forgot "Brain Damage / Eclipse"......:-)


73, Jim


On 08/21/2017 05:33 PM, John Geiger wrote:
> Pink Floyd-Astronomy Domine
>                   Interstellar Overdrive
>                   Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
>
> The Grateful Dead-Dark Star!
>
> 73 John AF5CC
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


From winger55552001 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 21 18:19:35 2017
From: winger55552001 at yahoo.com (winger55552001)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 13:19:35 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] [OKDXA] My eclipse playlist
Message-ID: <lq74ylskrk5jpp8smakpnb3l.1503339575695@email.android.com>


    
Dark Side of the Moon....
Good looking eclipse from Minot ND today!


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com> 
Date: 8/21/17  12:33 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>, Oklahoma - DX news and information <okdxa at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: [OKDXA] My eclipse playlist 

Pink Floyd-Astronomy Domine
???????????????? Interstellar Overdrive
???????????????? Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun

The Grateful Dead-Dark Star!

73 John AF5CC
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From skristof at etczone.com  Mon Aug 21 19:26:04 2017
From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:26:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] My eclipse playlist
In-Reply-To: <CAHC1P29fM8YAFgsW9fKxxfcLg-jWb-2hMwQyz3V_vvTduYW89g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHC1P29fM8YAFgsW9fKxxfcLg-jWb-2hMwQyz3V_vvTduYW89g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1867ad2e4643a3bc18b8075f7d1c6854@etczone.com>

I just put Astronomy Domine on a repeat loop. 

Steve AI9IN

On 2017-08-21 13:33, John Geiger wrote:

> Pink Floyd-Astronomy Domine
> Interstellar Overdrive
> Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
> 
> The Grateful Dead-Dark Star!
> 
> 73 John AF5CC
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From aa5pk at suddenlink.net  Mon Aug 21 19:44:55 2017
From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:44:55 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] My eclipse playlist
Message-ID: <C0F875AA3C4D4CF58BD1F7A541878C20@AA5PKPC>

"The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine (Anymore)" by The Walker Brothers.

-----Original Message----- 
From: skristof at etczone.com 
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 2:26 PM 
To: AMSAT BB 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] My eclipse playlist 

I just put Astronomy Domine on a repeat loop. 

Steve AI9IN

From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 19:56:47 2017
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:56:47 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] My eclipse playlist
In-Reply-To: <1b77641c-2241-399e-853d-d87b46514f95@verizon.net>
References: <CAHC1P29fM8YAFgsW9fKxxfcLg-jWb-2hMwQyz3V_vvTduYW89g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b77641c-2241-399e-853d-d87b46514f95@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAHC1P29NJshJrTnH6D0BtgamUKrAP05itmSobSVPB6Y_+DPJeg@mail.gmail.com>

How did I forget Eclipse?  Must have been an almost senior moment.  Is 50
almost a senior?

73 John AF5CC

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net> wrote:

> You forgot "Brain Damage / Eclipse"......:-)
>
>
> 73, Jim
>
>
> On 08/21/2017 05:33 PM, John Geiger wrote:
>
>> Pink Floyd-Astronomy Domine
>>                   Interstellar Overdrive
>>                   Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
>>
>> The Grateful Dead-Dark Star!
>>
>> 73 John AF5CC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 19:57:14 2017
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:57:14 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] My eclipse playlist
In-Reply-To: <1867ad2e4643a3bc18b8075f7d1c6854@etczone.com>
References: <CAHC1P29fM8YAFgsW9fKxxfcLg-jWb-2hMwQyz3V_vvTduYW89g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1867ad2e4643a3bc18b8075f7d1c6854@etczone.com>
Message-ID: <CAHC1P2-nNN=7UhVP9tS6MDqLw9=PyR1LRwrzqSrF6E7oVqEfaw@mail.gmail.com>

That is a great song!

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:26 PM, <skristof at etczone.com> wrote:

> I just put Astronomy Domine on a repeat loop.
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2017-08-21 13:33, John Geiger wrote:
>
> > Pink Floyd-Astronomy Domine
> > Interstellar Overdrive
> > Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
> >
> > The Grateful Dead-Dark Star!
> >
> > 73 John AF5CC
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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From g4bbh at btinternet.com  Mon Aug 21 20:07:10 2017
From: g4bbh at btinternet.com (Richard Ferryman)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:07:10 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
References: <mailman.2128.1503342954.2457.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Message-ID: <EC34EA937EBE4070A484BAB660BE25CC@G4BBHSAMSUNG2>

I have been firing APRS through NO-84 for the last three days and was logged 
on almost all passes here in UK.  However I notice the downlink signal is a 
lot weaker than ISS so I assume it is running much lower power.   As a 
result I don't hear all the downlink transmissions.  I don't know what the 
power difference is.
Dick G4BBH


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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Mon Aug 21 14:43:13 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (vk4tec at tech-software.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 00:43:13 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Timewave navigator chipset
Message-ID: <005601d31a8b$d3823ae0$7a86b0a0$@tech-software.net>

Hello

 

Would someone know the chipset used and subsequently the drivers required
for a TimeWave Navigator USB sound interface ?

 

Does it support Mac OS X / LINUX 

 

Cheers

 

Andrew VK4TEC 


From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Aug 21 20:10:31 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:10:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
In-Reply-To: <EC34EA937EBE4070A484BAB660BE25CC@G4BBHSAMSUNG2>
References: <mailman.2128.1503342954.2457.amsat-bb@amsat.org>
	<EC34EA937EBE4070A484BAB660BE25CC@G4BBHSAMSUNG2>
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NO-84 runs around 340 mW.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Richard Ferryman <g4bbh at btinternet.com>
wrote:

> I have been firing APRS through NO-84 for the last three days and was
> logged on almost all passes here in UK.  However I notice the downlink
> signal is a lot weaker than ISS so I assume it is running much lower
> power.   As a result I don't hear all the downlink transmissions.  I don't
> know what the power difference is.
> Dick G4BBH
>
>
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From kb1pvh at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 20:26:35 2017
From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:26:35 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Timewave navigator chipset
In-Reply-To: <005601d31a8b$d3823ae0$7a86b0a0$@tech-software.net>
References: <005601d31a8b$d3823ae0$7a86b0a0$@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <CAEMY9FdAg5GweF3iPg1muOH3mc3GxOxnkfORpHpGzi1OFCP7cQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you Google " Timewave Navigator USB" you might be surprised by the first
result.

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S7

On Aug 21, 2017 4:17 PM, <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> Would someone know the chipset used and subsequently the drivers required
> for a TimeWave Navigator USB sound interface ?
>
>
>
> Does it support Mac OS X / LINUX
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Andrew VK4TEC
>
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From nss at mwt.net  Mon Aug 21 20:32:01 2017
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:32:01 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Timewave navigator chipset
In-Reply-To: <CAEMY9FdAg5GweF3iPg1muOH3mc3GxOxnkfORpHpGzi1OFCP7cQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005601d31a8b$d3823ae0$7a86b0a0$@tech-software.net>
	<CAEMY9FdAg5GweF3iPg1muOH3mc3GxOxnkfORpHpGzi1OFCP7cQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70d8e1b1-bfc1-0954-b476-e9c613685409@mwt.net>

I tried three different browsers, and all three show a totally useless 
messed up page.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/21/2017 3:26 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> If you Google " Timewave Navigator USB" you might be surprised by the first
> result.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>
> On Aug 21, 2017 4:17 PM, <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> Would someone know the chipset used and subsequently the drivers required
>> for a TimeWave Navigator USB sound interface ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Does it support Mac OS X / LINUX
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew VK4TEC
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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From wa4sca at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 21:09:58 2017
From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:09:58 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Timewave navigator chipset
In-Reply-To: <70d8e1b1-bfc1-0954-b476-e9c613685409@mwt.net>
References: <005601d31a8b$d3823ae0$7a86b0a0$@tech-software.net>	<CAEMY9FdAg5GweF3iPg1muOH3mc3GxOxnkfORpHpGzi1OFCP7cQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<70d8e1b1-bfc1-0954-b476-e9c613685409@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <000001d31ac1$d8e56940$8ab03bc0$@gmail.com>

I also found a messed up page, but it does say that they use the FTDI chip,
with links to the Windows and Mac OS drivers, and information Linux.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


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<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Timewave navigator chipset
<
<I tried three different browsers, and all three show a totally useless
<messed up page.
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<Joe WB9SBD
<Sig
<The Original Rolling Ball Clock
<Idle Tyme
<Idle-Tyme.com
<http://www.idle-tyme.com
<On 8/21/2017 3:26 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
<> If you Google " Timewave Navigator USB" you might be surprised by the
first
<> result.
<>
<> Dave-KB1PVH
<>
<>
<> Sent from my Galaxy S7
<>
<> On Aug 21, 2017 4:17 PM, <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
<>
<>> Hello
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> Would someone know the chipset used and subsequently the drivers
<required
<>> for a TimeWave Navigator USB sound interface ?
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> Does it support Mac OS X / LINUX
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> Cheers
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> Andrew VK4TEC
<>>
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<available
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From rjlawn at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 21:50:06 2017
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 17:50:06 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
Message-ID: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>

Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is there a
tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21. I was
unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
Thanks for clarification
73
Rick, W2JAZ

From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 22:01:06 2017
From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:01:06 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
In-Reply-To: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0E282C0-DDB1-4C76-99C1-7D8F3C070A9A@gmail.com>

437.050 uplink

73,

Mike Diehl
AI6GS 

> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is there a
> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21. I was
> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
> Thanks for clarification
> 73
> Rick, W2JAZ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From wilfordchris at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 22:15:41 2017
From: wilfordchris at gmail.com (Chris Wilford)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:15:41 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CO80 Whistler BC
Message-ID: <599b5b93.8d53650a.948bd.9b56@mx.google.com>

To all AMSAT-NA bird chasers;

I am now on a family vacation in Whistler, BC (CO80) from now until Saturday August 26th.

It will be a vacation schedule but will try to hit multiple passes a day.

The focus will be on FO-29, AO-85 and SO-50, but I may jump on any pass that works.

I will post details before passes on my twitter feed (@VE7CEW).
You don?t need a twitter account to follow my tweets just go to: https://twitter.com/ve7cew

I have no idea yet how low I will be able to work in this mountain surrounded village but will try to find the best possible route to cover as much as I can.

Feel free to PM me or email if you want to try a specific pass or just want to let me know to listen for you.

73. 
Chris VE7CEW CO80
Whistler, BC


From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 22:21:28 2017
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:21:28 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
In-Reply-To: <C0E282C0-DDB1-4C76-99C1-7D8F3C070A9A@gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0E282C0-DDB1-4C76-99C1-7D8F3C070A9A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKN5KuYavUfHWhYSh5F6aQfymYqTQYZp4y_5CcMw7UthkA@mail.gmail.com>

There is no tone. The thing to remember is this is not being turned on
for random contacts. It is setup to retransmit one of the student sats
that was recently deployed by hand from the ISS during a Russian EVA.
That sat transmits on 437.050 and that is why the uplink is 437.050
and not the "normal" 437.800 that is published as the repeater
frequency on ariss.org for example.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
> 437.050 uplink
>
> 73,
>
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS
>
>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is there a
>> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
>> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21. I was
>> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
>> Thanks for clarification
>> 73
>> Rick, W2JAZ
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From n8hm at arrl.net  Mon Aug 21 21:54:19 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 17:54:19 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
In-Reply-To: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOque6RUhBEHFysJF4rP4TB9erE5-HmsW-hrmy43W5xeOA@mail.gmail.com>

The official uplink frequency is 437.800 MHz. However, it has apparently
been configured to repeat the Tomsk satellite, with an uplink frequency of
437.050 MHz.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is there a
> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21. I was
> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
> Thanks for clarification
> 73
> Rick, W2JAZ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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From scott23192 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 22:43:47 2017
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:43:47 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Audio
Message-ID: <1E5D6CC2463144D2BD614D15AA7D4FEC@CSI9020>

Hello everyone.  For those in the U.S., I hope you had an enjoyable eclipse day.

As has been reported, the voice repeater on the ISS was (is?) active today.

If anyone has not had an opportunity to hear the audio when that configuration is enabled, here is a short section of this evening?s pass if you are curious about the quality, etc.  (I wish my cell phone was this clear!)


http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//files/2017-08-21--ISS-repeater.mp3

... the audio would have actually been even more clear, but my antenna pointing was a compromise between the ISS and some nearby cubesats.  

73,

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA



From ko6th.greg at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 22:54:58 2017
From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:54:58 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKN5KuYavUfHWhYSh5F6aQfymYqTQYZp4y_5CcMw7UthkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0E282C0-DDB1-4C76-99C1-7D8F3C070A9A@gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKN5KuYavUfHWhYSh5F6aQfymYqTQYZp4y_5CcMw7UthkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <abd8f3fb-0596-45d3-68cf-789b5f5668e8@gmail.com>

So, if we use the repeater, are we competing (interfering) with the
student experiments?  Or, is that only geographically related (i.e. over
Russia)?

Greg  KO6TH


John Brier wrote:
> There is no tone. The thing to remember is this is not being turned on
> for random contacts. It is setup to retransmit one of the student sats
> that was recently deployed by hand from the ISS during a Russian EVA.
> That sat transmits on 437.050 and that is why the uplink is 437.050
> and not the "normal" 437.800 that is published as the repeater
> frequency on ariss.org for example.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 437.050 uplink
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mike Diehl
>> AI6GS
>>
>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is there a
>>> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
>>> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21. I was
>>> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
>>> Thanks for clarification
>>> 73
>>> Rick, W2JAZ
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 23:30:08 2017
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:30:08 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
In-Reply-To: <abd8f3fb-0596-45d3-68cf-789b5f5668e8@gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0E282C0-DDB1-4C76-99C1-7D8F3C070A9A@gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKN5KuYavUfHWhYSh5F6aQfymYqTQYZp4y_5CcMw7UthkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<abd8f3fb-0596-45d3-68cf-789b5f5668e8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKPJikP4s59CdVWqovJ5TnU0+3sxsEAZHRDXZiLpbPsdrQ@mail.gmail.com>

I think TOMSK just sent recorded messages "greetings to earth," but
Tanusha 1 and 2 also try to make an autonomous digital network, I
think on UHF. If the network is only on UHF or transmissions on
145.800 would not interfere with them (i.e. they also use VHF for the
network but nothing close to 145.800), this shouldn't be a problem.

73, John Brier KG4AKV


On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> So, if we use the repeater, are we competing (interfering) with the
> student experiments?  Or, is that only geographically related (i.e. over
> Russia)?
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> John Brier wrote:
>> There is no tone. The thing to remember is this is not being turned on
>> for random contacts. It is setup to retransmit one of the student sats
>> that was recently deployed by hand from the ISS during a Russian EVA.
>> That sat transmits on 437.050 and that is why the uplink is 437.050
>> and not the "normal" 437.800 that is published as the repeater
>> frequency on ariss.org for example.
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 437.050 uplink
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Mike Diehl
>>> AI6GS
>>>
>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is there a
>>>> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
>>>> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21. I was
>>>> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
>>>> Thanks for clarification
>>>> 73
>>>> Rick, W2JAZ
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From w9gb at icloud.com  Mon Aug 21 23:41:31 2017
From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:41:31 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Timewave Navigator chipset
Message-ID: <AF9A0300-00EC-462F-9CE1-4827B52FE502@icloud.com>

READ ME File
11/02/2013

Navigator Driver Version 2.4.18
Document Package 2.4.18 (.pdf files added)

This driver is intended to supercede previous drivers provided for the Navigator Interface 
by Timewave Technology Inc.  

This version provides these features:

1.  This one driver is used for either 32-bit or 64-bit computers.  
The driver automatically selects the correct driver elements during installation.
It also supports both XP and Vista.

2.  This driver can coexist with any driver version level from FTDI.
All software components are renamed with a "nav" prefix to prevent FTDI updates
from overwriting the components of this release.  

3.  These drivers are digitally signed by TIMEWAVE TECHNOLOGY.  
This provides better security, and speeds up the installation process.  
It is also required for the 64 bit versions of Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8.

4.  This driver is derived from the FTDI-chipset Driver files ver 2.4.16  

5.  It is recommended that you update to this new Navigator driver level. 
Updates must remove the current driver from your computer prior to installing this version.  
See the "Nav Driver Uninstall Procedure.pdf" included with this release.

6.  There are four .pdf files in this package that describe 
the procedures to upgrade the driver to this version. 

Nav Driver Install XP.pdf
Nav Driver Install Vista Win7 win8.pdf
Nav Driver Uninstall procedure.pdf
Win7 win8 Audio Setup.pdf

Open the one appropriate to your system.  
The uninstall procedure is recommended for XP, Vista, win7 and Win8.

7.  If you are installing in a new system, you may use these procedures as well, or use
the procedures in the standard Quick Start guides that accompany the Navigator
Installation CD.


Please direct questions or comments to Timewave Technology Inc.
web site: timewave.com
e-mail: techsupport at timewave.com


From k7trkradio at charter.net  Mon Aug 21 23:07:40 2017
From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:07:40 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Audio
In-Reply-To: <1E5D6CC2463144D2BD614D15AA7D4FEC@CSI9020>
References: <1E5D6CC2463144D2BD614D15AA7D4FEC@CSI9020>
Message-ID: <009901d31ad2$49eb0630$ddc11290$@charter.net>

Nothing heard just now in CN82 (So Oregon) +- 35-40 degree pass

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:00z
4PM PDT

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 3:44 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Audio

Hello everyone.  For those in the U.S., I hope you had an enjoyable eclipse day.

As has been reported, the voice repeater on the ISS was (is?) active today.

If anyone has not had an opportunity to hear the audio when that configuration is enabled, here is a short section of this evening?s pass if you are curious about the quality, etc.  (I wish my cell phone was this clear!)


http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//files/2017-08-21--ISS-repeater.mp3

... the audio would have actually been even more clear, but my antenna pointing was a compromise between the ISS and some nearby cubesats.  

73,

-Scott,  K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA


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From w3ab at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 21 23:50:45 2017
From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:50:45 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] My eclipse playlist
In-Reply-To: <CAHC1P29NJshJrTnH6D0BtgamUKrAP05itmSobSVPB6Y_+DPJeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHC1P29fM8YAFgsW9fKxxfcLg-jWb-2hMwQyz3V_vvTduYW89g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1b77641c-2241-399e-853d-d87b46514f95@verizon.net>
	<CAHC1P29NJshJrTnH6D0BtgamUKrAP05itmSobSVPB6Y_+DPJeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7d231455-ae8c-4f32-9cd7-a1bba8188771@yahoo.com>

If my kids are seniors, what am I?

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Aug 21, 2017, 12:59, at 12:59, John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>How did I forget Eclipse?  Must have been an almost senior moment.  Is
>50
>almost a senior?
>
>73 John AF5CC
>
>On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea at verizon.net>
>wrote:
>
>> You forgot "Brain Damage / Eclipse"......:-)
>>
>>
>> 73, Jim
>>
>>
>> On 08/21/2017 05:33 PM, John Geiger wrote:
>>
>>> Pink Floyd-Astronomy Domine
>>>                   Interstellar Overdrive
>>>                   Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
>>>
>>> The Grateful Dead-Dark Star!
>>>
>>> 73 John AF5CC
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From w8aas at verizon.net  Tue Aug 22 12:03:21 2017
From: w8aas at verizon.net (Dave Taylor)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 08:03:21 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
In-Reply-To: <abd8f3fb-0596-45d3-68cf-789b5f5668e8@gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0E282C0-DDB1-4C76-99C1-7D8F3C070A9A@gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKN5KuYavUfHWhYSh5F6aQfymYqTQYZp4y_5CcMw7UthkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<abd8f3fb-0596-45d3-68cf-789b5f5668e8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD01FBAB-991B-4901-91F0-1ED949E3D66A@verizon.net>

Yes, using the radio as a voice repeater does interfere with the intended use.  The Russian team set this up at the last minute because they were concerned about getting telemetry from their satellites, which might be spinning more than they had expected.  They are hoping the nearby receiver on ISS can capture and retransmit telemetry that is not being picked up on the ground.

I do not know if this applies primarily over Europe and Asia, or if repeater use is a problem everywhere.  I would guess that the satellite teams would appreciate receiving telemetry from anywhere it is heard.  There might be something on the satellite websites about that.  I am not directly involved.

Dave, W8AAS


> On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, if we use the repeater, are we competing (interfering) with the
> student experiments?  Or, is that only geographically related (i.e. over
> Russia)?
> 
> Greg  KO6TH
> 
> 
> John Brier wrote:
>> There is no tone. The thing to remember is this is not being turned on
>> for random contacts. It is setup to retransmit one of the student sats
>> that was recently deployed by hand from the ISS during a Russian EVA.
>> That sat transmits on 437.050 and that is why the uplink is 437.050
>> and not the "normal" 437.800 that is published as the repeater
>> frequency on ariss.org for example.
>> 
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 437.050 uplink
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Mike Diehl
>>> AI6GS
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is there a
>>>> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
>>>> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21. I was
>>>> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
>>>> Thanks for clarification
>>>> 73
>>>> Rick, W2JAZ
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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From k8tl at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 22 17:24:31 2017
From: k8tl at earthlink.net (Tom Lubbers K8TL)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:24:31 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ampire 440 Pre AMP
Message-ID: <1792816.10181.1503422672279@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

We have an Ampire model 440 mast mount preamp.  Electronicly good, cosmeticly well worn.  NF 0.75 db, RF sensed. Any interest e-mail k8tl at earthlink.net.  Will check the Suspect mail. Just want to find in a new home!
Tom K8TL

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Tue Aug 22 18:06:42 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 04:06:42 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] gqrx and gpredict
Message-ID: <5B19A95F-6D59-4DCB-A5F4-0A87102D7690@tech-software.net>

Hello

I found  a mismatch in port numbers between gqrx and gpredict for those using SDR for ISS

gpredict is looking for port 4532

gqrx is looking for 7532

Match them 

Also gqrx only works on a Mac from here the qgrx website dmg

Source code compile causes a segmentation fault 

I have gpredict driving an AirSpy Mini on gqrx on a MacBook Pro 

Listening for the ISS

Andrew VK4TEC 

bug fixes submitted

From n8hm at arrl.net  Tue Aug 22 18:21:40 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 14:21:40 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] gqrx and gpredict
In-Reply-To: <5B19A95F-6D59-4DCB-A5F4-0A87102D7690@tech-software.net>
References: <5B19A95F-6D59-4DCB-A5F4-0A87102D7690@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOruEWN28c9axJhmUSXQ6OKjo7--BDNmPsOiy8UDOsAQpg@mail.gmail.com>

Gpredict defaults to using 4532 for radio control since that's the default
port for the Hamlib rigctld.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
wrote:

> Hello
>
> I found  a mismatch in port numbers between gqrx and gpredict for those
> using SDR for ISS
>
> gpredict is looking for port 4532
>
> gqrx is looking for 7532
>
> Match them
>
> Also gqrx only works on a Mac from here the qgrx website dmg
>
> Source code compile causes a segmentation fault
>
> I have gpredict driving an AirSpy Mini on gqrx on a MacBook Pro
>
> Listening for the ISS
>
> Andrew VK4TEC
>
> bug fixes submitted
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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From johnbrier at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 21:38:33 2017
From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 17:38:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
In-Reply-To: <DD01FBAB-991B-4901-91F0-1ED949E3D66A@verizon.net>
References: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0E282C0-DDB1-4C76-99C1-7D8F3C070A9A@gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKN5KuYavUfHWhYSh5F6aQfymYqTQYZp4y_5CcMw7UthkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<abd8f3fb-0596-45d3-68cf-789b5f5668e8@gmail.com>
	<DD01FBAB-991B-4901-91F0-1ED949E3D66A@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CALn0fKOHsYDiqeRuGci4sT9Eus=NFRZf1o3FhosLXKu593Xu=w@mail.gmail.com>

ISS crossband repeater seemed off on 2043 UTC pass over NA. Digipeater was
on though.

On Aug 22, 2017 8:03 AM, "Dave Taylor" <w8aas at verizon.net> wrote:

> Yes, using the radio as a voice repeater does interfere with the intended
> use.  The Russian team set this up at the last minute because they were
> concerned about getting telemetry from their satellites, which might be
> spinning more than they had expected.  They are hoping the nearby receiver
> on ISS can capture and retransmit telemetry that is not being picked up on
> the ground.
>
> I do not know if this applies primarily over Europe and Asia, or if
> repeater use is a problem everywhere.  I would guess that the satellite
> teams would appreciate receiving telemetry from anywhere it is heard.
> There might be something on the satellite websites about that.  I am not
> directly involved.
>
> Dave, W8AAS
>
>
> > On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, if we use the repeater, are we competing (interfering) with the
> > student experiments?  Or, is that only geographically related (i.e. over
> > Russia)?
> >
> > Greg  KO6TH
> >
> >
> > John Brier wrote:
> >> There is no tone. The thing to remember is this is not being turned on
> >> for random contacts. It is setup to retransmit one of the student sats
> >> that was recently deployed by hand from the ISS during a Russian EVA.
> >> That sat transmits on 437.050 and that is why the uplink is 437.050
> >> and not the "normal" 437.800 that is published as the repeater
> >> frequency on ariss.org for example.
> >>
> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> 437.050 uplink
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Mike Diehl
> >>> AI6GS
> >>>
> >>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is
> there a
> >>>> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
> >>>> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21.
> I was
> >>>> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
> >>>> Thanks for clarification
> >>>> 73
> >>>> Rick, W2JAZ
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> of AMSAT-NA.
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From rjlawn at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 21:46:39 2017
From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 21:46:39 +0000
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Repeater Clarification
In-Reply-To: <CALn0fKOHsYDiqeRuGci4sT9Eus=NFRZf1o3FhosLXKu593Xu=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADQmrTG1pyzu8ZviHj7214CG1N2fvCh1PYf-c1X59uaCgL9LTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C0E282C0-DDB1-4C76-99C1-7D8F3C070A9A@gmail.com>
	<CALn0fKN5KuYavUfHWhYSh5F6aQfymYqTQYZp4y_5CcMw7UthkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<abd8f3fb-0596-45d3-68cf-789b5f5668e8@gmail.com>
	<DD01FBAB-991B-4901-91F0-1ED949E3D66A@verizon.net>
	<CALn0fKOHsYDiqeRuGci4sT9Eus=NFRZf1o3FhosLXKu593Xu=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADQmrTF9LEPh53J83sHNXmwcK1x8Un9sk0YWe=URBT5a_Jqoug@mail.gmail.com>

I had several nice contacts on a morning pass over fn21. Great signals.
Rick, W2JAZ

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM John Brier <johnbrier at gmail.com> wrote:

> ISS crossband repeater seemed off on 2043 UTC pass over NA. Digipeater was
> on though.
>
> On Aug 22, 2017 8:03 AM, "Dave Taylor" <w8aas at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, using the radio as a voice repeater does interfere with the intended
>> use.  The Russian team set this up at the last minute because they were
>> concerned about getting telemetry from their satellites, which might be
>> spinning more than they had expected.  They are hoping the nearby receiver
>> on ISS can capture and retransmit telemetry that is not being picked up on
>> the ground.
>>
>> I do not know if this applies primarily over Europe and Asia, or if
>> repeater use is a problem everywhere.  I would guess that the satellite
>> teams would appreciate receiving telemetry from anywhere it is heard.
>> There might be something on the satellite websites about that.  I am not
>> directly involved.
>>
>> Dave, W8AAS
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Greg D <ko6th.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > So, if we use the repeater, are we competing (interfering) with the
>> > student experiments?  Or, is that only geographically related (i.e. over
>> > Russia)?
>> >
>> > Greg  KO6TH
>> >
>> >
>> > John Brier wrote:
>> >> There is no tone. The thing to remember is this is not being turned on
>> >> for random contacts. It is setup to retransmit one of the student sats
>> >> that was recently deployed by hand from the ISS during a Russian EVA.
>> >> That sat transmits on 437.050 and that is why the uplink is 437.050
>> >> and not the "normal" 437.800 that is published as the repeater
>> >> frequency on ariss.org for example.
>> >>
>> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> 437.050 uplink
>> >>>
>> >>> 73,
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike Diehl
>> >>> AI6GS
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Richard Lawn <rjlawn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just to clarify, the downlink is 145.800 and uplink is 437.800? Is
>> there a
>> >>>> tone. Someone posted the wrong uplink frequency I think and I just
>> >>>> monitored a wonderful pass with lots of great signals heard in FN21.
>> I was
>> >>>> unable to hear myself and suspect I had the wrong uplink frequency.
>> >>>> Thanks for clarification
>> >>>> 73
>> >>>> Rick, W2JAZ
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> >>>> Subscription settings:
>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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From dhagert at comcast.net  Wed Aug 23 15:35:12 2017
From: dhagert at comcast.net (dhagert)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:35:12 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H & AO-85
Message-ID: <00a301d31c25$69487400$3bd95c00$@comcast.net>

I am trying to decode the telemetry with FoxTelem on AO-85 with my 910H with
no success. If any has used this set-up, could you please pass along how you
configured the radio & software. Tnx Dale W0IR


From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Aug 23 16:22:00 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 12:22:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H & AO-85
In-Reply-To: <00a301d31c25$69487400$3bd95c00$@comcast.net>
References: <00a301d31c25$69487400$3bd95c00$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOpWuiAytGWamT4xo_+Md1y4mUuTASmE2CnCTKyxeAe-iQ@mail.gmail.com>

Be sure your cable is connected to the "DATA OUT" pin (pin 4) and not "AF
OUT" (pin 5). You need the unfiltered audio from the 9600 bps pin.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:35 AM, dhagert <dhagert at comcast.net> wrote:

> I am trying to decode the telemetry with FoxTelem on AO-85 with my 910H
> with
> no success. If any has used this set-up, could you please pass along how
> you
> configured the radio & software. Tnx Dale W0IR
>
> _______________________________________________
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From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Wed Aug 23 20:44:54 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:44:54 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H & AO-85
In-Reply-To: <00a301d31c25$69487400$3bd95c00$@comcast.net>
References: <00a301d31c25$69487400$3bd95c00$@comcast.net>
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Dale 

For those that are interested can you describe the frequency , OS, mode, data format, software, result

Andrew 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Aug 2017, at 1:35 am, dhagert <dhagert at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I am trying to decode the telemetry with FoxTelem on AO-85 with my 910H with
> no success. If any has used this set-up, could you please pass along how you
> configured the radio & software. Tnx Dale W0IR
> 
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From ruthwillet at att.net  Thu Aug 24 01:34:45 2017
From: ruthwillet at att.net (Ruth)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 21:34:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
Message-ID: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>

Hi all,

I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z AO-85 pass. 

All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.

73!
Ruth
KM4LAO

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Thu Aug 24 01:51:00 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 11:51:00 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
In-Reply-To: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
References: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
Message-ID: <B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@tech-software.net>

You know Ruth 

I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate 

I have not yet had any one go that extra mile

People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not

I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do and there are those people that don't

I don't waste my time with the non doers

Why should it take some else to get another motivated

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z AO-85 pass. 
> 
> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
> 
> 73!
> Ruth
> KM4LAO
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From kx9x at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 24 02:15:07 2017
From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean Kutzko)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:15:07 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
In-Reply-To: <B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@tech-software.net>
References: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
	<B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <8CB87E3D-18BF-47D9-AA02-842B2CCDE505@yahoo.com>

Presenting to others is about raising  awareness in your activity. One will not be interested in something if one doesn't know it exists.

You will not get 100% interest in your presentation. However, you may get a few. Raising the awareness of a few is better than not trying. Play the long game; it pays off in the end.

Sean KX9X

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> You know Ruth 
> 
> I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate 
> 
> I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
> 
> People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
> 
> I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do and there are those people that don't
> 
> I don't waste my time with the non doers
> 
> Why should it take some else to get another motivated
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z AO-85 pass. 
>> 
>> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
>> 
>> 73!
>> Ruth
>> KM4LAO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
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From jeremy at jeremymturner.com  Thu Aug 24 02:09:49 2017
From: jeremy at jeremymturner.com (Jeremy Turner)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:09:49 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
In-Reply-To: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
References: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
Message-ID: <CAO4qtUc8T4m7KOxxOFq-w+f0N-sMYO6jP3K5XTChJ2HFkp835g@mail.gmail.com>

Very cool Ruth!

I'll listen for you from DN70 in Colorado.

73,

Jeremy / KO6RM

On August 23, 2017 at 19:35:47, Ruth (ruthwillet at att.net) wrote:

Hi all,

I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for
me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass
under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the
17:59z AO-85 pass.

All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.

73!
Ruth
KM4LAO
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From matthew at mrstevens.net  Thu Aug 24 02:54:57 2017
From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 21:54:57 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
In-Reply-To: <B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@tech-software.net>
References: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
	<B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@tech-software.net>
Message-ID: <FF48A7C0-9E12-4644-ABD2-26D130C92EA1@mrstevens.net>

I for one am glad that there are doers (like Ruth, WD9EWK, AK4WK, KX9X and many others I know) willing to go out and do demos like this.

The non-doers can stay home and make disparaging comments on the internet if they like, that's not going to help one person become interested in this hobby. However one enthusiastic operator demoing at a radio club meeting just might.

73,

- Matthew nj4y

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 20:51, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> You know Ruth 
> 
> I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate 
> 
> I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
> 
> People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
> 
> I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do and there are those people that don't
> 
> I don't waste my time with the non doers
> 
> Why should it take some else to get another motivated
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z AO-85 pass. 
>> 
>> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
>> 
>> 73!
>> Ruth
>> KM4LAO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From tucker at mcguireland.com  Thu Aug 24 03:08:33 2017
From: tucker at mcguireland.com (Tucker McGuire)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 23:08:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
In-Reply-To: <FF48A7C0-9E12-4644-ABD2-26D130C92EA1@mrstevens.net>
References: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
	<B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@tech-software.net>
	<FF48A7C0-9E12-4644-ABD2-26D130C92EA1@mrstevens.net>
Message-ID: <CA+gmQJTGxo1VyGkwOeggfeQwXL5z-qQq6E-1vuCsqHhyGHPw5Q@mail.gmail.com>

I am glad that folks like Ruth KM4LAO, Sean KX9X, Patrick WD9EWK, and
others go and do demos of satellite operations for clubs. Even if you spark
interest in just 1 person out of 500 you've done a great job introducing
folks to a new part of the hobby!

I for one am not surprised folks haven't gotten interested after you've
gone and spoken to them, Andrew. If your interactions at these meetings are
anything like your "Internet persona" i.e. being condescending to those
asking questions, general rudeness, etc. chances are you're probably
driving folks away. Your negativity here is annoying and getting old quite
frankly.

Cheers,
Tucker
W4FS



On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
wrote:

> I for one am glad that there are doers (like Ruth, WD9EWK, AK4WK, KX9X and
> many others I know) willing to go out and do demos like this.
>
> The non-doers can stay home and make disparaging comments on the internet
> if they like, that's not going to help one person become interested in this
> hobby. However one enthusiastic operator demoing at a radio club meeting
> just might.
>
> 73,
>
> - Matthew nj4y
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 23, 2017, at 20:51, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> >
> > You know Ruth
> >
> > I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings
> have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate
> >
> > I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
> >
> > People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
> >
> > I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do
> and there are those people that don't
> >
> > I don't waste my time with the non doers
> >
> > Why should it take some else to get another motivated
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
> Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
> helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
> throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for
> me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass
> under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the
> 17:59z AO-85 pass.
> >>
> >> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
> >>
> >> 73!
> >> Ruth
> >> KM4LAO
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
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From k8bl at ameritech.net  Thu Aug 24 03:38:18 2017
From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 03:38:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
In-Reply-To: <CA+gmQJTGxo1VyGkwOeggfeQwXL5z-qQq6E-1vuCsqHhyGHPw5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
	<B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@tech-software.net>
	<FF48A7C0-9E12-4644-ABD2-26D130C92EA1@mrstevens.net>
	<CA+gmQJTGxo1VyGkwOeggfeQwXL5z-qQq6E-1vuCsqHhyGHPw5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6441320.1131802.1503545898942@mail.yahoo.com>

Anyone that was fortunate enough to witness the enthusiastic crowd
at the AMSAT Satellite Demos at this year's Hamvention would know
that a Satellite Demo/Workshop can be a big draw. Once people learn
that Sat Communications can be easily done with simple inexpensive
stations, the bug can bite them. One thing is for sure - when people do

nothing, nothing happens. Go get'em, Ruth!
GL/73,   Bob  K8BL


________________________________
From: Tucker McGuire <tucker at mcguireland.com>
To: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net> 
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th



I am glad that folks like Ruth KM4LAO, Sean KX9X, Patrick WD9EWK, and
others go and do demos of satellite operations for clubs. Even if you spark
interest in just 1 person out of 500 you've done a great job introducing
folks to a new part of the hobby!

I for one am not surprised folks haven't gotten interested after you've
gone and spoken to them, Andrew. If your interactions at these meetings are
anything like your "Internet persona" i.e. being condescending to those
asking questions, general rudeness, etc. chances are you're probably
driving folks away. Your negativity here is annoying and getting old quite
frankly.

Cheers,
Tucker
W4FS



On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
wrote:

> I for one am glad that there are doers (like Ruth, WD9EWK, AK4WK, KX9X and
> many others I know) willing to go out and do demos like this.
>
> The non-doers can stay home and make disparaging comments on the internet
> if they like, that's not going to help one person become interested in this
> hobby. However one enthusiastic operator demoing at a radio club meeting
> just might.
>
> 73,
>
> - Matthew nj4y
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 23, 2017, at 20:51, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> >
> > You know Ruth
> >
> > I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings
> have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate
> >
> > I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
> >
> > People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
> >
> > I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do
> and there are those people that don't
> >
> > I don't waste my time with the non doers
> >
> > Why should it take some else to get another motivated
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
> Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
> helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
> throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for
> me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass
> under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the
> 17:59z AO-85 pass.
> >>
> >> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
> >>
> >> 73!
> >> Ruth
> >> KM4LAO
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

> >
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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From straarup at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 03:38:59 2017
From: straarup at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=B8ren_Straarup?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:38:59 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
In-Reply-To: <FF48A7C0-9E12-4644-ABD2-26D130C92EA1@mrstevens.net>
References: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
	<B569329D-CC4C-47A7-9213-34CE4ADF6A4C@tech-software.net>
	<FF48A7C0-9E12-4644-ABD2-26D130C92EA1@mrstevens.net>
Message-ID: <CAPq=p5F09AxACMt76q6F11whK57UphbaoYm-=sGhb6SC+_iJ-g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ruth, Matt .. List,

I don't do demostrations to get more ops on the birds.. I do it cause it is
what tickles me within hamradio.

It is what Sean mentioned "awareness"


Yes I do try and help those who asks.. If someone asks it is most likely
due to they have some level of interest.

If everything goes at planned I'm going to do a demo for the SARA group (
http://www.radioham.org) September 9th staying around 1400z, might try
FO-29.

Not trying to hijack the thread.


Vy 73 de AK4WQ/OZ2DAK, Soren Straarup

On Aug 23, 2017 21:57, "Matthew Stevens" <matthew at mrstevens.net> wrote:

> I for one am glad that there are doers (like Ruth, WD9EWK, AK4WK, KX9X and
> many others I know) willing to go out and do demos like this.
>
> The non-doers can stay home and make disparaging comments on the internet
> if they like, that's not going to help one person become interested in this
> hobby. However one enthusiastic operator demoing at a radio club meeting
> just might.
>
> 73,
>
> - Matthew nj4y
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 23, 2017, at 20:51, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> >
> > You know Ruth
> >
> > I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and meetings
> have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate
> >
> > I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
> >
> > People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
> >
> > I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do
> and there are those people that don't
> >
> > I don't waste my time with the non doers
> >
> > Why should it take some else to get another motivated
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the
> Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to
> helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes
> throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for
> me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass
> under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the
> 17:59z AO-85 pass.
> >>
> >> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
> >>
> >> 73!
> >> Ruth
> >> KM4LAO
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From osbornes at paradise.net.nz  Thu Aug 24 04:57:46 2017
From: osbornes at paradise.net.nz (Wendy and Terry Osborne)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 16:57:46 +1200
Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR# I/Q file of AO85 Telemetry
Message-ID: <6A96F49D08E245FCAF94144521A17C90@OsbornesPC>

Does anyone have a SDR# I/Q wav file of AO85 Telemetry?

AO85 (Fox-1A) should have a downlink that can be copied with an RTL-SDR Dongle.
In this part of the world, you need to trigger the repeater to turn on the Downlink and so far I haven?t been able to do this.
The 2 minute timer is a bit like chasing a needle in a haystack.

I?ve tried Patrick, WD9EWK?s HDSDR files but can get any decoded data.

73,
Terry Osborne ZL2BAC

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Thu Aug 24 03:18:52 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (vk4tec at tech-software.net)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 13:18:52 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
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References: <4C041E91-1471-4414-9A5C-2292CE38E5FB@att.net>
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Youtube

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Kutzko [mailto:kx9x at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2017 12:15 PM
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
Cc: Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net>; amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th

Presenting to others is about raising  awareness in your activity. One will not be interested in something if one doesn't know it exists.

You will not get 100% interest in your presentation. However, you may get a few. Raising the awareness of a few is better than not trying. Play the long game; it pays off in the end.

Sean KX9X

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec at tech-software.net> wrote:
> 
> You know Ruth
> 
> I read your email and I said to myself how many radio clubs and 
> meetings have I spent trying to get others motivated to participate
> 
> I have not yet had any one go that extra mile
> 
> People I find are lazy and seem interested when they are not
> 
> I have come to the conclusion that there will no those people that do 
> and there are those people that don't
> 
> I don't waste my time with the non doers
> 
> Why should it take some else to get another motivated
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward to helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening for me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 pass under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on the 17:59z AO-85 pass. 
>> 
>> All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW.
>> 
>> 73!
>> Ruth
>> KM4LAO
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From cchunter3 at mindspring.com  Thu Aug 24 12:50:29 2017
From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (christy hunter)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 05:50:29 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Upcoming satellite workshop on Saturday, August 26th
Message-ID: <a1ebde9d-437a-500d-74c6-7d93e7bb5da7@mindspring.com>

Ruth, will give it a go from DM14.
and thank you for your demo. The exposure can be invaluable to those few that are inspired to chase satellites.
Clint's K6LCS demo many years ago did it for me, then Patrick's (WD9EWK) first response to my call during my
first demo during a JOTA clenched it. Thank you to  all you Elmers out there.
73
Christy KB6LTY


>/On 24 Aug 2017, at 11:34 am, Ruth <ruthwillet at att.net 
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>> wrote: />//>/Hi all, />//>/I will be giving a satellite workshop this Saturday August 26th for the 
Amateur Radio Club of Columbia County in Georgia. I am looking forward 
to helping some more hams get on the birds! We will be on a few passes 
throughout the day from EM83, so I?d appreciate if you?d be listening 
for me and other operators on the FM birds. I?ll be demoing 12:31z SO-50 
pass under my own callsign and then plan to help other operators get on 
the 17:59z AO-85 pass. />//>/All QSOs made under my callsign will be uploaded to LOTW. />//>/73! />/Ruth />/KM4LAO/



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From yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 24 13:52:14 2017
From: yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:52:14 +0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another Satellite Workshop this weekend
References: <9D092242A7CA8544BE6F1DFD8C3E59DB922541E6@idrbiw8xmbx04.idrbi.chevrontexaco.net>
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>  
> Satellite Workshop in Indonesia, Saturday 26 August
>  
>  
> Several members of AMSAT-ID, including myself, is planning to deliver a Workshop, including live-demo thru IO-86, of Satellite Communication on Saturday 26 Augustus at Borobudur Hamfest ( http://bcjarf2017.com/ ), from 07.00 till 09.00 UTC.
>  
> Live demo will be conducted thru IO-86 (and possibly also on SO-50). Additional FM Repeater on IO-86 has been scheduled, please follow lapansat on Twitter for the latest schedule.
>  
> The passes that we will be on: 09.03 till 09.23, and 12.32 till 12.52 UTC. Possible also on the 10.45 if activated.
>  
> Feel free to respond to our calls and apologize if the workshop participants are a bit slow in responding.
>  
> Locator: OI52CJ

> 73 de Yono ? YD0NXX / N5SNN

From lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com  Thu Aug 24 18:06:02 2017
From: lee.ernstrom at rcwilley.com (Lee Ernstrom)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:06:02 -0600
Subject: [amsat-bb] DN14
Message-ID: <411D7559-175C-4A09-AC15-17668D200964@rcwilley.com>

I will be in DN14 on Saturday night and Sunday morning.  If there is interest in this grid I may decide to take gear to work SO-50.

WA7HQD
Lee (Doc) Ernstrom

Sent from my iPad

From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Aug 25 03:20:00 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 23:20:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [aprsisce] Re: Eclipse Umbra Path [1 Attachment]
In-Reply-To: <onf6je+vrfiga@YahooGroups.com>
References: <21d32352-e0a8-d1c0-0c4e-3e2fe17c4cbd@arrl.net>
	<onf6je+vrfiga@YahooGroups.com>
Message-ID: <CALdCfNJ3n+N1WjEsjZcV=p3FaxxyLzM4HQSgAewZqP=mjQMd8g@mail.gmail.com>

My HT on a rubber duck just north of Georgia picked up 12 APRS balloons
during the eclipse  .

When I got home, I counted 244 APRS Balloons on Eclipse day on FINDU.COM.
Subtracting out the 96 from other parts of the world that day left 148 over
the USA.  But looking at the map, I only could find about 46 along the
track?  Where were the others?

I cant get a plot of all the USA ones since the filters on APRSFI wont work
that big.

Looking for someone who can plot all the APRS balloons that day on one map?

Mark, KE6BB posted a plot of all the "Flight" symbols during the eclipse.
Most are balloons, but a few aircraft mixed in as well.  But Ill have to
post it on a web page to share it with the group.

Bob, WB4APR

__._,_.___

From scott23192 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 03:29:12 2017
From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 23:29:12 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [aprsisce] Re: Eclipse Umbra Path [1 Attachment]
In-Reply-To: <CALdCfNJ3n+N1WjEsjZcV=p3FaxxyLzM4HQSgAewZqP=mjQMd8g@mail.gmail.com>
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	<onf6je+vrfiga@YahooGroups.com>
	<CALdCfNJ3n+N1WjEsjZcV=p3FaxxyLzM4HQSgAewZqP=mjQMd8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJCSnOYEeybXSZsOcez1XG4k0WzB=Bz33wuhN-RGioQQwNqnew@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Bob!

You're more than welcome to use the image that I included with a tweet on
eclipse day if it's useful to you:

https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/899694435168133120

... it was obtained from:

https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=4&qm=6_hours&mc=40.79427,-83.68583

... where I often check to see if there are any balloons in my area that I
might be able to receive on 144.390.

73!

-Scott,  K4KDR

============================================

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

> My HT on a rubber duck just north of Georgia picked up 12 APRS balloons
> during the eclipse  .
>
> When I got home, I counted 244 APRS Balloons on Eclipse day on FINDU.COM.
> Subtracting out the 96 from other parts of the world that day left 148 over
> the USA.  But looking at the map, I only could find about 46 along the
> track?  Where were the others?
>
> I cant get a plot of all the USA ones since the filters on APRSFI wont work
> that big.
>
> Looking for someone who can plot all the APRS balloons that day on one map?
>
> Mark, KE6BB posted a plot of all the "Flight" symbols during the eclipse.
> Most are balloons, but a few aircraft mixed in as well.  But Ill have to
> post it on a web page to share it with the group.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> __._,_.___

From martha at amsat.org  Fri Aug 25 16:32:04 2017
From: martha at amsat.org (Martha)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 12:32:04 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
Message-ID: <CAPk0USyLQT3JKucAQT+W5dFdY9nYj4KU543_0ppwyzjyrmjN=g@mail.gmail.com>

The AMSAT Office will close today (August 25th) at 2:00 PM  EDST and reopen
on Wednesday,
September 6th.

-- 
73- Martha

From jimlist at zoho.com  Fri Aug 25 18:59:14 2017
From: jimlist at zoho.com (Jim Heck G3WGM)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 19:59:14 +0100
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73/FUNCube Mode change
In-Reply-To: <13DF423C17994667998D9A42D1851FEA@jimPC2>
References: <39ED40E1AB4A4BC59C531C1A3F21D575@LAPTOP91ASAKDB><A64C82B8458B4A06894F46E9331DA5D8@jimPC2><A9518B35DED843E79A1B3A17AD2627C2@jimPC2><9961032CCB324FD6B68EE759E695E3B9@jimPC2><D28EFE36611C4074ADD18DBC2401D86E@jimPC2>
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HI folks,

AO73/FUNcube is now in amateur mode for the weekend with the transponder on!

As normal, plan is to revert to normal mode on Sun PM (UTC).

Please see below for all FUNcube mission info

73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
FUNcube frequencies and other details
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

AO-73 FUNcube-1

The transponder is normally operational only when the satellite is in
eclipse, ie the solar panels are NOT being illuminated. During weekends
(from pm Fridays UTC to PM Sundays UTC) the transponder is operational 24/7.

When the transponder is switched off, the telemetry beacon is on full power,
when the transponder is on the beacon it is on low power. During holidays,
eg Christmas, New Year, Easter, etc, the transponder maybe activated for
extended periods. Watch AMSAT-BB for announcements which are usually made on
Friday evenings (UTC)

The nominal transponder frequencies are:

Uplink:   435.150 - 435.130 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink:   145.950 - 145.970 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.935 MHz BPSK

(The passband may be up to 15kHz higher depending on on-board temps. Lower
temperatures give higher freqs!)

FUNcube-2 (aka FUNcube on UKube)

The FUNcube-2 sub-system continues to operate autonomously and, almost
continuously, in amateur mode. The transponder is operational and the
telemetry downlink is functioning with about 70mW output. The FUNcube-1
Dashboard does not correctly display the telemetry but it does correctly
decode the data and uploads it to the FUNcube Data Warehouse from where it
can be examined. Most of the real time data channels are operational and
these include battery voltages, temperatures and ADCS data coming via the
main On Board Computer (OBC).

The transponder is interrupted for a few seconds every 2 minutes when the
other transmitter sends its CW beacon and, occasionally, for a few seconds
when the main OBC reboots (approx seven times each orbit).

The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink:   435.080 - 435.060 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink:   145.930 - 145.950 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.915 MHz BPSK

(The passband may be up to 10kHz higher depending on on-board temps. Low
temperatures give higher freqs!)


EO79 FUNcube-3
Due to power budget constraints the transponder cannot be operational 24/7
and an orbit specific schedule has been developed. The transponder will
commence operation 27 minutes after the spacecraft enters sunlight and will
stay on for a period of 25 minutes. This schedule may be modified in future
months as a result of experience.

The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink: 435.0723-435.0473 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink: 145.946-145.971 MHz USB

Further detailed info on EO79 transponder frequencies is at:
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/11/10/eo79-funcube-3-transponder-commences-regular-operation/


EO88/Nayif-1/FUNcube-5

EO88 is presently operating in autonomous mode. The transponder is
operational when the satellite is in eclipse, ie the solar panels are NOT
being illuminated.
When the transponder is switched off, the telemetry beacon is on full power,
when the transponder is on the beacon it is on low power.
The transponder frequencies are:

Uplink:  435.045 ? 435.015 MHz LSB (inverting)
Downlink: 145.960-145.990 MHz USB
Telemetry  Tx: 145.940MHz

All FUNcube transponders are sponsored by AMSAT-UK and AMSAT-NL. We are very
grateful for the assistance given by Innovative Solution In Space Bv, The
Netherlands.

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From bruninga at usna.edu  Fri Aug 25 21:17:45 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 17:17:45 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Solar Panel delivery to Maryland
In-Reply-To: <c1f9ffc0194c7247d54ef2fc808081a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c1f9ffc0194c7247d54ef2fc808081a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1d5104f7ccc0b79806b5ca3171146735@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone to solar power their Satstation in Maryland?



I am about to buy a truckload of solar panels for my church and various
projects.  Delivery from Miami to Annapolis Maryland is several hundred
dollars so if anyone local wants to pile on and get some panels, Ill
consider adding some more.



These are 285 Watt Trina panels 30v at about 7 amps. 65? by 39?.  40 Lbs
each. Black frames.

Cost is about $100 each.



You must pick them up from Annapolis.

Bob, WB4APR

From bruninga at usna.edu  Sat Aug 26 13:42:20 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 09:42:20 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Solar Panel delivery to Maryland
Message-ID: <CALdCfNLmD6OfMR0Wzq21Qm-3Dvqd68SB1bieAg=GJTYbjDn5bA@mail.gmail.com>

> Where did you purchase them in Miami?

It is SUNELEC.COM  They have unbelievable deals.  They also ship from
Arizona I think...  They have tens of thousands of panels for prices
typically between 30 to 50 cents a watt.

Solar power for the home is now way under the cost from the utilities, but
only if you are grid tied.  If  you try to store the energy in batteries
every day, your costs for the system will triple and you will have battery
maintenance issues for life.  Plus not enough power in the winter, and too
much in the summer.

See http://aprs.org/solar-now.html

So it is so cheap, but here are many considerations....

* Solar energy now costs much less than the utilities if grid-tied.
* But only in states where the utilities are not sleeping with the
politicians
* You cannot grid-tie unless you have a licensed electrician do it and get
all the permits.  You will pay around $3/watt installed.
* Hint for DIY types:  Contract for a very small system.  Then add your own
panels later (while fully following NEC code).

* Going off grid makes no economic sense whatsoever if you have the grid.
You will pay  three times more for the batteries and never recoup the
investment as you always  have to maintain and replace batteries for the
rest of your life!.

* Solar panels are excellent for remote sites where you have no grid and
having battery solar power is worth paying triple what it is worth.

* Solar panels are great for RV's, Boats or Electric cars... ANYTHING that
already has to have a battery anyway, may as well charge for free.

** A small solar panel on the house for the shack makes no economic sense
whatsoever.  You have the grid, so just charge the shack backup battery
from the grid. Don't bother with solar.  Also, every single day the grid is
UP, you are not using the backup battery so your solar is producing
absolutely nothing anyway 99.96% of the time (In Maryland anyway, that is
the grid reliability)..

** But if you plug that solar panel into a small 500W Grid-Tie inverter
that just plugs into a home outlet (cost under $100 on ebay) then you DO
get full retail value from the solar everyday for ever AND you can use the
panel direct when the grid goes down. butt don't get greedy...

** But ONLY if you never backfeed more than you are using every minute of
the day.  If you ever backfeed more than you use, you will pay double for
it.  ALl non-NET-meters charge for electricity going through the meter no
matter which way it goes!  So you pay when you over produce and you pay
again when you draw it back out later.   That is why you MUST have a NET
meter to have any hope of economical solar in bulk.

** Thus, a plugin grid tie more than one or two panels will end up COSTING
you for every watt you over produce.  So, again, the only economical solar
is whole house legal net-metered grid tie.  And it is so cheap it makes no
sense not to do it that way.

But if  you still want to have a single panel for $100 its great to have 30
volts at 7 amps from the sun, even if you just waste it.  But then having
to pay $100 for shipping for a $100 panel doesn't make a lot of sense
either...

Your mileage may vary.
Bob, WB4APR

On 8/25/2017 5:17 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>
>>
>> I am about to buy a truckload of solar panels for my church and various
>> projects.  Delivery from Miami to Annapolis Maryland is several hundred
>> dollars so if anyone local wants to pile on and get some panels, Ill
>> consider adding some more.
>>
>> These are 285 Watt Trina panels 30v at about 7 amps. 65? by 39?.  40 Lbs
>> each. Black frames.
>>
>> Cost is about $100 each.
>>
>>
>>
>> You must pick them up from Annapolis.
>>
>> Bob, WB4APR
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From af5cc2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 19:55:36 2017
From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 14:55:36 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS2000 satellite rig for sale
Message-ID: <CAHC1P2-kqHXhfMgpcObo4x+KY+3+2YrOO_fsN9UYNjZO_k=o3w@mail.gmail.com>

I have for sale a Kenwood TS2000 HF/6m/2m/70cm satellite rig.  This is the
model that does full duplex for the satellites, and does 100 watts on HF,
6m, and 2m, and 50 watts on 70cm.  It has IF-DSP so you don't need any
optional filters and you also get noise reduction and an auto notch
filter.  Has a built in TCXO, CW memory keyer, subreceiver that does AM/FM
on 2m and 70cm, and can also be used for Crossband repeat or Skycommand.
Also has a built in autotuner.

This is a 800xxxx serial number so it was produced before the bad filter
issue occurred with the TS2000.  It comes with both original boxes, the
original manual, hand mic and power cord.

It is in very good condition with just a couple of very light scratches on
the case.  I am asking $900 shipped in the US, and can take paypal/check/mo.

73 John AF5CC

From k.alexander at rogers.com  Sat Aug 26 22:51:30 2017
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:51:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Labour Day Rove
Message-ID: <d824f2e7-a761-a9b6-f452-b3b58629cd43@rogers.com>

The nurse has given me limited clearance to go away on Labour Day 
Weekend, so I will be making up my failed previous attempt to activate 
FN27/28.

Friday and Monday will be travel days, and I'll spend Saturday and 
Sunday on site.  If the roads are no worse than I have encountered on 
previous roves then I will attempt to activate FN37 as well.  I also 
plan to stop briefly for a few passes in FN26 on the way north on 
Saturday morning around 1400 to 1500.  Hopefully, not too early for 
western and west coast operators.

I will spend Friday night in FN25 and Sunday night in FN24 on the way 
home.  I'll be on in the evenings from those grids.

My limited research shows that nobody has FN27/28/37.  It ought to be a 
busy weekend!  Let's hope for good weather!

I'll post schedules as we get closer to departure day.

73,

Ken
VE3HLS


From wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 27 23:26:25 2017
From: wb9qzb_groups at yahoo.com (Mark Thompson)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 23:26:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR DCC, St. Louis,
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From bruninga at usna.edu  Mon Aug 28 13:07:14 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 09:07:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Eclipse Day APRS balloons?
Message-ID: <72d52f9a1ca36e96a5d192fda9393faf@mail.gmail.com>

I added the PLOT of all the 46 APRS balloons on Eclipse day to my Balloon
page.

http://aprs.org/balloons.html



I assume these were trackers on all the 50 NASA balloons launched that day
by students all across the country to stream live video of the event.  But
there is not a single mention of APRS on their web page, and not a single
Ham has mentioned involvement here on the APRSSIG or on AMSAT.  Yet all the
balloons had Ham calls.  I?d like someone involved to document the HAM
involvement in this massive undertaking and describe the APRS portion so I
can add it to the web page.



And why does FINDU.COM find about 148 Balloons in the USA, and I can only
count about 50 along the path and only a few more..?



Bob

From k9jkm at comcast.net  Mon Aug 28 14:12:05 2017
From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 09:12:05 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-239 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <000d01d32007$a11eda50$e35c8ef0$@net>

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-239

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* RadFsSat/Fox-1B Integration With P-POD Complete & Waiting for Launch
* AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017
* AMSAT Office Closed Until September 6
* ARISS Crossband Repeater is NOT Active for General Communications
* Hamvention 2017 AMSAT Forum Videos Posted
* CubeSat Launch Initiative Announcement of Opportunity
* AMSAT 2017 Symposium Call for Papers
* NASA Tournament Lab USSOCOM CubeSat Challenge
* Russian Arctic DXpedition Plan Includes Satellite Operation

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-239.01
ANS-239 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 239.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE August 27, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-239.01

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RadFsSat/Fox-1B Integration With P-POD Complete & Waiting for Launch

Following successful integration into the P-POD last week, it has now
been announced that the launch date of RadFxSat/Fox-1B is set for
November 10, 2017.

RadFxSat will fly with four other CubeSats in the ELaNa XIV mission on
the United Launch Alliance Delta II rocket launching NASA's JPSS-1
satellite from Vandenberg Air Force Base, CA.  

After successful
deployment of the JPSS-1 primary payload, the ELaNa XIV CubeSats will be
deployed.  RadFxSat should have an orbit lifetime of about seven years in
the projected orbit:
+ 811 km x 440 km
+ i = 97.73 degrees
+ LTAN = 13:20:35

[ANS thanks Jerry Buxton, N?JY, AMSAT Vice-President Engineering for the
above information]

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AMSAT-NA BoD Ballots Due At AMSAT Office By September 15, 2017

Ballots for AMSAT-NA's Board of Directors were mailed to members in
good standing on July 15. Members are encouraged to complete their
ballots and return them as soon as possible. Ballots must be received
at the AMSAT office by September 15 in order to be counted.

This year AMSAT-NA will be electing four voting members of the Board
of Directors. These will go to the four candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. In addition, there will be one alternate
chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received.

The 2017 candidates, in alphabetical order by last name are:

Jerry Buxton, N0JY
Clayton Coleman, W5PFG
Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
Peter Portanova, W2JV
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM

Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an
opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of
AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that
will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the
Board. You have the option to vote for up to four candidates.

[ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information]

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AMSAT Office Closed Until September 6

The AMSAT Office is closed between August 25 and Sepetember 6. It will 
reopen on Wednesday, September 6th.

[ANS thanks Martha for the above information]

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ARISS Crossband Repeater is NOT Active for General Communications

ARISS reminds amateur operators that the voice repeater aboard the ISS
has not officially been activated for general radio contacts although
some stations have reported successful contacts using 435.050 MHz FM
as the uplink and 145.800 MHz FM as the downlink.

Last week these satellites with amateur radio were deployed by the
Russian crew during their EVA:

TOMSK TPU-120  (RS04S) 437.025 MHz FM voice announcements
Tanusha-SWSU-1 (RS-6S) 437.050 MHz AX25 9K6 bps, FM voice announcements
Tanusha-SWSU-2 (RS-7S) 437.050 MHz AX25 9K6 bps, FM voice announcements

The Russian team set up the ISS repeater as a crossband relay between
437.050 MHz and 145.800 MHz at the last minute because they were concerned
about getting telemetry from their satellites, which might be spinning
more than they had expected.  They are hoping the nearby receiver on ISS
can capture and retransmit telemetry that is not being picked up on the
ground.

USING THE RADIO AS A VOICE REPEATER FOR GENERAL CONTACTS DOES INTERFERE
WITH THE INTENDED MISSION OF SUPPORTING RELAY OF TELEMETRY FROM THE TANUSHA
SATELLITES.

Radio amateurs wishing to try receiving the Tanusha telemetry can find
technical details on the Southwest State University Space Activity page
at: http://eng.swsu.ru/space

When the ARISS voice repeater is active and authorized for general amateur
voice contacts the uplink frequency is 437.800 MHz FM using the 145.800 MH
FM downlink.

[ANS thanks ARISS and the Russian Southwest State University for the above
information]

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Hamvention 2017 AMSAT Forum Videos Posted

Matthew, NJ4Y reports that three of the 2017 Hamvention AMSAT Forum
videos have been added to the AMSAT Youtube channel, with more to
come next week.

Visit the AMSAT Youtube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/user/AMSATNA
For Hamvention video of the AMSAT Forum for:

+ 2017 Hamvention AMSAT Forum - AMSAT Status Report by Barry Baines
+ 2017 AMSAT Hamvention Forum - AMSAT Operations Update by Drew Glasbrenner
+ 2017 AMSAT Hamvention Forum - AMSAT Engineeting Update by Jerry Buxton

[ANS thanks Matthew Stevens, NJ4Y for the above information]

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CubeSat Launch Initiative Announcement of Opportunity

Accredited education institutions, nonprofit organizations, and 
NASA centers can join the adventure and challenges of space while 
helping the agency achieve its exploration goals through the next 
round of the agency?s CubeSat Launch Initiative (CSLI). 

Applicants must submit proposals by 4:30 p.m. EST, Nov. 21.

The CSLI provides CubeSat developers with a low-cost pathway to 
conduct research in space that advances NASA's strategic goals 
in the areas of science, exploration, technology development, 
education and operations. The initiative allows students, 
teachers and faculty to gain hands-on experience designing, 
building, and operating these small research satellites.

To date, NASA has selected 151 CubeSat missions, 49 of which 
have been launched into space. NASA has offered a launch 
opportunity to 95 percent of those selected through previous 
announcements, with 44 scheduled for launch within the next 
12 months. The selected CubeSats represent participants from 
38 states and 85 unique organizations across the country.

NASA will make selections by Feb. 16, 2018, and selection 
does not guarantee a launch opportunity. Selected experiments 
will be considered as auxiliary payloads on agency launches 
or for deployment from the International Space Station 
beginning in 2018 through 2021. U.S. non-pro?t and accredited 
educational organizations are responsible for funding the 
development of the small satellites.

For this round of the initiative, NASA is particularly interested 
in participation from organizations in the District of Columbia, 
Puerto Rico, and 12 states not previously selected. These states 
are: Delaware, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New 
Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota 
and Wyoming.

CubeSats are part of a class of research spacecraft called 
nanosatellites. CubeSats are built to standard dimensions of 
10x10x11 centimeters, which are called units or U. They can be 
1U, 2U, 3U, or 6U in size, and typically weigh less than 3 pounds 
(1.33 kilograms) per U.  A 6U CubeSat typically has a mass of 
about 26.5 pounds (12 to 14 kilograms). The final mass of a 
CubeSat depends on the selected deployment method.

Small satellites like CubeSats play a valuable role in the 
agency?s exploration, technology, educational, and science 
investigations, including planetary exploration, Earth observation, 
and fundamental Earth and space science. They are a cornerstone in 
the development of cutting-edge NASA technologies like laser 
communications, satellite-to-satellite communications and 
autonomous movement.

For additional information about NASA's CubeSat Launch Initiative, 
visit: http://go.nasa.gov/CubeSat_initiative

[ANS thanks NASA for the above information]

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AMSAT 2017 Symposium Call for Papers

This call for papers is for the 2017 AMSAT Annual Meeting and Space 
Symposium to be held on the weekend of October 27, 28, 29, 2017 at 
the Silver Legacy Resort, Reno, Nevada. 

Proposals for papers, symposium presentations and poster presentations 
are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. 
We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible, 
with final copy to be submitted by October 6 for inclusion in the
printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz 
N8FGV at n8fgv at amsat.org

[ANS thanks Dan, N8FGV, for the above information]

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NASA Tournament Lab USSOCOM CubeSat Challenge

Do you have an idea that could advance the state of current CubeSat
technologies and payloads and demonstrate applications that may benefit any
of the USSOCOM missions? Propose new or innovative CubeSat payload
technology/use concepts that can be demonstrated to support USSOCOM missions
within 12-24 months. Seven $5,000 prizes will be awarded in the following
categories: 4 - 3U Winners, 2 - 6U Winners and 1 - People's Choice Award

Make sure to follow the competition to find out how you can get involved:
https://herox.com/cubesat-challenge

The United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) is the Unified
Combatant Command charged with manning, training, and equipping the various
Special Operations Component Commands of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, and
Air Force of the United States Armed Forces.  Core Activities within the
scope of Special Operations Forces (SOF) include: Direct Action, Special
Reconnaissance, Unconventional Warfare, Foreign Internal Defense, Civil
Affairs Operations, Counterterrorism, Military Information Support
Operations, Counter-proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction, Security
Force Assistance, Counterinsurgency, Hostage Rescue and Recovery, and
Foreign Humanitarian Assistance.

One of the guiding tenets of SOF is that most special operations require
non-SOF assistance.  As such, USSOCOM is seeking global ideas on how to
advance CubeSat capabilities. Specifically, USSOCOM is conducting this
crowdsourcing challenge to solicit concepts that advance the state of
current CubeSat technologies and payloads and demonstrate applications that
may benefit any of the USSOCOM missions.  Concepts should be viable for a
prototype demonstration within 12-24 months. These concepts will advance how
CubeSats can be utilized to support Special Operations Forces (SOF)
missions.

Example areas that are relevant to USSOCOM missions are (not an exhaustive
list):
+ Next-generation CubeSat and/or sensor technologies
+ Advanced communications; including full orbit Command & Control
  and data exfiltration
+ Electro-Optical (EO)/Infrared (IR) sensing and imaging
+ Multi/Hyper spectral sensor technology
+ Propulsion capabilities to modify or maintain orbits
+ Advanced On-Orbit data processing
+ Multi-function payloads
+ Tagging, Tracking and Locating capabilities

[ANS thanks NASA and the United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM)
for the above information]

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Russian Arctic DXpedition Plan Includes Satellite Operation

Members of the Russian Robinson Club (RRC) continue planning for 
their next Arctic operation. Look for RI1F to be active from 
Victoriya Island (EU-190). They will will leave Murmansk sometime 
late September (27th), and they are expected to operate between 
October 1-7th. This island group has never been activated before. 
By the way, these islands count for DXCC purposes as Franz Josef 
Land. Activity will be on 160-10 meters, including the WARC bands, 
VHF and UHF. Operations will be on CW, SSB, the Digital modes, 
EME (dates are October 3-7th) and the satellites.

They plan to operate from two different sites (one HF and EME; 
one VHF/UHF). The complete break down can be see on QRZ.com.

Currently, 12 operators have been named: Igor/UA9KDF (Team 
leader), Yury/ UA9OBA (RRC President), Andrey/UA9LDD (CW op), 
Valery/UA0ZC (CW/SSB op), Vladimir/R9LR (SSB/CW op), Sergey/UA9KB 
(CW op), Artemy/UA9KAM (Photo, video, SSB op), Andrey/RT9K 
(Mechanic, cook, SSB op), Victor/RW0BG (CW/SSB op), Mikhail/UA1QV 
(CW/SSB op), Valery/RA9J (CW/SSB op) and Vladimir (Son of UA9LDD; 
CW/SSB op).

Pilot station is Igor, RA3CQ. QSL via ClubLog's OQRS or by the 
Bureau. QSL Manager is Alexandr, RX9KM. Watch QRZ.com for updates. 
Their Web page is still under construction at: http://legendsarctic.com

[ANS thanks Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1328 for the above information{

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/EX

In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information. And with that, please keep in mind the tale of the two 
antennas got married ? the wedding was lousy, but the reception 
was outstanding.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM
k9jkm at amsat dot org


From AJ9N at aol.com  Mon Aug 28 19:28:03 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 15:28:03 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-28 19:30
	UTC
Message-ID: <47f8a1.6b38153b.46d5c8c3@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-28  19:30 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Student Space Technology Association, Knoxville, TN, direct  via AA4UT 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The  scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA
Contact is a go for: Thu  2017-08-31 17:42:14 UTC 60  deg

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 124 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
Sergey RV3DR with 100  

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-28 19:30 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1154. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1113. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-16 05:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 21:27:19 2017
From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 16:27:19 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater
Message-ID: <33E02C83-9139-4F83-829D-27E556255DBF@gmail.com>

Hello fellow bird folk,

I noticed in the ANS today the specific note that the recent crossband repeater activation was not to be used for general amateur communications. With the popularity of this mode (and our current shortage of FM birds), has there been any thought about making it a more common thing? It seems to be wildly popular when it is active, and I'd like to think people would have more respect for the times when it needs to be used for scientific functions if it wasn't seen as just a really rare opportunity to make a QSO via the repeater. Maybe there's a reason it's basically always off, just curious. 

73,
Gabe
NJ7H/VE6NJH

From ariss.w8aas at gmail.com  Tue Aug 29 00:34:46 2017
From: ariss.w8aas at gmail.com (Dave Taylor)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:34:46 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Crossband Repeater
In-Reply-To: <33E02C83-9139-4F83-829D-27E556255DBF@gmail.com>
References: <33E02C83-9139-4F83-829D-27E556255DBF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7A40409E-A9E7-4330-8C8D-30AD25158976@gmail.com>

It?s basically always off for two reasons.  First, we don?t have a programmed radio that supports the mode.  This experiment was being run on an unprogrammed radio that the Russians sent up, not one of our standard ARISS radios.  Second, the stock D700 ARISS used in the past would overheat in the high duty cycle repeater mode, because the stock fan doesn?t move enough air to cool the radio in a zero-G environment.

But hope is in sight!  The new Interoperable Radio System (IORS) that ARISS is developing includes a TM-D710 specifically modified with repeater mode in mind (along with some other things).  We have a larger fan that should solve the problem, and we expect the cross-band voice repeater to be a common operating mode between school contacts, alternating with the digital repeater and an occasional experimental mode.

The IORS had a final design review earlier this month, and a safety review is coming in a few weeks (both reviews are with NASA engineers).  All that is left is to build and let NASA test our initial flight prototypes and then build the final flight and training hardware.  Oh, and raise enough money to buy parts for the multi-voltage power supply that runs the radios.  

ARISS encourages all hams that look forward to expanded ISS operations to help by donating to the project.  There is link for donations on the AMSAT-NA website (www.amsat.org <http://www.amsat.org/>, click ?Donate? in the menu bar).

Dave, W8AAS


> On Aug 28, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello fellow bird folk,
> 
> I noticed in the ANS today the specific note that the recent crossband repeater activation was not to be used for general amateur communications. With the popularity of this mode (and our current shortage of FM birds), has there been any thought about making it a more common thing? It seems to be wildly popular when it is active, and I'd like to think people would have more respect for the times when it needs to be used for scientific functions if it wasn't seen as just a really rare opportunity to make a QSO via the repeater. Maybe there's a reason it's basically always off, just curious. 
> 
> 73,
> Gabe
> NJ7H/VE6NJH
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From AJ9N at aol.com  Wed Aug 30 01:23:31 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 21:23:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-30 01:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <fe18c.968035a.46d76d93@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-30  01:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Student Space Technology Association, Knoxville, TN, direct  via AA4UT 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The  scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA
Contact is a go for: Thu  2017-08-31 17:42:14 UTC 60  deg

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 124 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
Sergey RV3DR with 100  

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-30 01:00 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1154. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1113. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-16 05:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From royldean at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 13:11:00 2017
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:11:00 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85: Tone or no Tone for SSTV
Message-ID: <CADGPg2shePCna4YhYkYa49E5zCZF3Xfsdu1LAZrgKQKkZV_wUw@mail.gmail.com>

two questions:

According to Amsat website, 67Hz tone is required for a couple of seconds
to activate repeater.

Once the repeater is activated, does it still require the tone every couple
of minutes to stay on, or does it only start the timer after normal
("un-toned") activity stops?

Will constantly sending the tone during SSTV Tx mess with the SSTV Rx?
I'm planning on eventually trying my own image, and want to be sure I don't
waste 36 seconds of valuable airtime.

-Roy
K3RLD

From n8hm at arrl.net  Wed Aug 30 13:16:30 2017
From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:16:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85: Tone or no Tone for SSTV
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2shePCna4YhYkYa49E5zCZF3Xfsdu1LAZrgKQKkZV_wUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2shePCna4YhYkYa49E5zCZF3Xfsdu1LAZrgKQKkZV_wUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABzOSOqAnyRwSJkYmpqBUDRVmpS221DF6fRnLPLKYPspTryEng@mail.gmail.com>

Roy,

AMSAT recommends always sending the tone on AO-85. If it doesn't hear the
tone for two minutes, the repeater will turn off.

The 67 Hz tone is well below the SSTV signal's tones and will not interfere
with signal transmission. The lowest tone used in a Robot36 transmission is
1100 Hz and the highest tone is 2300 Hz (with the image transmission
occurring primarly between 1500 and 2300 Hz).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:

> two questions:
>
> According to Amsat website, 67Hz tone is required for a couple of seconds
> to activate repeater.
>
> Once the repeater is activated, does it still require the tone every couple
> of minutes to stay on, or does it only start the timer after normal
> ("un-toned") activity stops?
>
> Will constantly sending the tone during SSTV Tx mess with the SSTV Rx?
> I'm planning on eventually trying my own image, and want to be sure I don't
> waste 36 seconds of valuable airtime.
>
> -Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>

From vk4tec at tech-software.net  Wed Aug 30 13:18:16 2017
From: vk4tec at tech-software.net (Andrew Rich)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 23:18:16 +1000
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85: Tone or no Tone for SSTV
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2shePCna4YhYkYa49E5zCZF3Xfsdu1LAZrgKQKkZV_wUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2shePCna4YhYkYa49E5zCZF3Xfsdu1LAZrgKQKkZV_wUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD92AFDB-E426-481D-A7A2-B43049EE2E5A@tech-software.net>

Roy

What's the audio bandwidth of you sstv ? 

Andrew 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Aug 2017, at 11:11 pm, Roy Dean <royldean at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> two questions:
> 
> According to Amsat website, 67Hz tone is required for a couple of seconds
> to activate repeater.
> 
> Once the repeater is activated, does it still require the tone every couple
> of minutes to stay on, or does it only start the timer after normal
> ("un-toned") activity stops?
> 
> Will constantly sending the tone during SSTV Tx mess with the SSTV Rx?
> I'm planning on eventually trying my own image, and want to be sure I don't
> waste 36 seconds of valuable airtime.
> 
> -Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From n0jy at amsat.org  Wed Aug 30 15:34:10 2017
From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:34:10 -0500
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85: Tone or no Tone for SSTV
In-Reply-To: <CABzOSOqAnyRwSJkYmpqBUDRVmpS221DF6fRnLPLKYPspTryEng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2shePCna4YhYkYa49E5zCZF3Xfsdu1LAZrgKQKkZV_wUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABzOSOqAnyRwSJkYmpqBUDRVmpS221DF6fRnLPLKYPspTryEng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46199caa-1318-42ad-b1aa-b1d215ec3b49@amsat.org>

On 8/30/2017 08:16, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> AMSAT recommends always sending the tone on AO-85. If it doesn't hear the
> tone for two minutes, the repeater will turn off.

Correction, it's one minute.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY


From AJ9N at aol.com  Wed Aug 30 16:06:33 2017
From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:06:33 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-30 16:00
	UTC
Message-ID: <10bace.54f5a02b.46d83c89@aol.com>

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-08-30  16:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Student Space Technology Association, Knoxville, TN, direct  via AA4UT 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 
The  scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA
Contact is a go for: Thu  2017-08-31 17:42:14 UTC 60 deg

West Virginia University, Lane Dept.  of Computer Science & Electrical 
Engineering, Morgantown, WV, direct via  W8CUL 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled  astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact is a go for: Mon 2017-09-04  15:50:05 UTC 79 deg (***)

Meadows Elementary School, Manhattan  Beach, CA, direct via KM6BWB 
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS 
The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 
Contact is a go  for: Fri 2017-09-08 17:05:30 UTC 67 deg  (***)

****************************************************************************
**

ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.  
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send 
your  reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and 
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to  
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?  
 
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete 
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.                       
      

http://www.ariss-eu.org/    

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to 
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke at sbcglobal.net
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 
 
schools:  

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 124 
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
Sergey RV3DR with 100  

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date  
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are  
additional 
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own 
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed 
time. 
All dates and times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date and 
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-08-30 16:00 UTC.   
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and  
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and  
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.    

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1154. 
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1113. 
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. 

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the  
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern 
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:   
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html  

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-08-16 05:30 UTC.  

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing 
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson

Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer  K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin  RN3FI
****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie  Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team  mentors








From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug 30 21:02:10 2017
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:02:10 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Student Space Technology
	Association, Knoxville, TN USA
Message-ID: <F3272CD11CC341EB9B28A133BF0BF740@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Student Space Technology Association, Knoxville, TN on Aug 31. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 17:42 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and AA4UT. The contact should be audible over the state of Tennessee, USA and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

The University of Tennessee Knoxville is an amazing school located in the hills of Tennessee. It is the largest campus in the state, hosting more than 30,000 students. This school is known for its engineering and science heritage, having close ties with research facilities such as Oak Ridge National Lab. Also, included in our alumni are 9 astronauts including the recent ISS inhabitant Scott Kelly. The Student Space Technology Association is looking forward to our contact with the International Space Station from our contact site at Hardin Valley Academy here in Knoxville. Our school is filled with thousands of eager students seeking to pursue careers in the space industry. With our vision of becoming a top-tier research school, our students are set to become the next leaders in STEM industries. We are excited to encourage the students at Hardin Valley Academy to pursue STEM areas at the university level.

 

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. Is it difficult to remain up to date on recent events on Earth?

2. Have there been any recent advancements made in ISS biological research     

   that could be applied on Earth?

3. How do you feel about riding on a commercial spacecraft like SpaceX's 

   Dragon Capsule as opposed to a government agency's craft? 

4. When doing research, or any other investigation, what kind of cleaning 

   processes do you use on your equipment, or even yourself, to avoid 

   contamination of material and equipment?

5. Has there been any research that has been done with the possible 

   application of zero g therapy to joint diseases such as arthritis. 

6. Having used current NASA spacesuits, are you excited about the new space 

   clothing developments being made like the Skinsuit?

7. Why does the vegetable growth experiment chamber have a pink-looking light 

   rather than a white light?

8. Are there any items/tools that are "lost" inside ISS?

9. How often do software updates occur on ISS? (***)

10. Are there any experiments related to additive manufacturing going on at 

    the moment?

11. Using the Haptics-2, how close do you think the technology is to 

    application on Mars? What kind of applications could you see the 

    technology being used for? Anything memorable from the experiment?

12. How often, and how, do you launch satellites from the ISS?

13. Are there plans to test means of producing artificial gravity in the near 

    future?

14. Can you talk about the inflatable module that was delivered to the ISS in 

    April of 2016?

15. Would there be any foreseeable benefits in performing complex medical 

    operations (such as open heart surgery) in a zero g environment.

16. How did the ROSA deployment go?

17. What was the solar eclipse viewing experience from space?

18. What 'treat' from the Dragon cargo - ice cream or fresh avocado - was the 

    most popular?

19. What has been your most interesting experiment?

20. What type of container do the rodents and fruit flies travel back to 

    earth in?

21. What major differences have you found in the ISS since your last mission?

22. Do you get to eat any plants that are growing on the ISS?

23. What are some of the things that are you doing that are results of 

    research done on the ISS?

24. What are some of the changes to space clothing you use like Skinsuit?

25. How difficult is it to learn to sleep in zero gravity?

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

      1. West Virginia University, Lane Dept. of Computer Science &   

         Electrical Engineering, Morgantown, WV, direct via W8CUL 

         The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

         The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 

         Contact is a go for: Mon 2017-09-04 15:50 UTC 

 

      2. Meadows Elementary School, Manhattan Beach, CA, direct via KM6BWB 

         The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS 

         The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 

         Contact is a go for: Fri 2017-09-08 17:05 UTC

 

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From py4zbz at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 30 22:31:24 2017
From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:31:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV on AO-85
References: <366300317.6672.1504132284271.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <366300317.6672.1504132284271@mail.yahoo.com>

2 SSTV images via AO-85 = FOX-1A
<http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/fox.htm#h>
73 de Roland PY4ZBZ

From almetco at comcast.net  Thu Aug 31 01:13:02 2017
From: almetco at comcast.net (Greg)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:13:02 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV on AO-85
In-Reply-To: <366300317.6672.1504132284271@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <366300317.6672.1504132284271.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<366300317.6672.1504132284271@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2CCBA518-A668-4A9D-B692-1D3174B847F9@comcast.net>

Nice.

Greg  N3MVF


On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Roland Zurmely via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:

2 SSTV images via AO-85 = FOX-1A
<http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/fox.htm#h>
73 de Roland PY4ZBZ
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net  Thu Aug 31 04:46:18 2017
From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:46:18 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with W. Virginia University,
	Lane Dept.of Computer Science & EE, Morgantown, WV
Message-ID: <AF683449FF2548BBA101B123612344EE@DHJ>

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at West Virginia University, Lane Dept.of Computer Science & Electrical Engineering, Morgantown, WV on 04 Sept. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 15:50 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and W8CUL. The contact should be audible over the state of West Virginia, USA and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English.

 

 

The Amateur Radio Club at WVU has existed since 1912, making it one of the oldest student organization at WVU. They provide students a testbed to conduct various experiments such as satellite and digital communications, radio astronomy and drone development. They are housed within the Lane Department of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering, which provides educational programs at the bachelor's, master's, and doctoral levels in computer science, electrical engineering, computer engineering, and biometric systems. WVU is a land grant university and is the largest educational institution in the state. Located in Morgantown, WV, with branch campuses spread throughout the state, WVU is extremely involved in all state affairs. As of 2015, slightly under 30,000 students were enrolled in graduate and undergraduate programs, a population comprised nearly equally (49%/51%) of in-state and out-of-state students, respectively. Present at our contact will be students from elementary and middle schools from throughout the surrounding area.

 

 

Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:

 

1. How do you do laundry in space?

2. What is the most challenging part of getting to the ISS?

3. Would you ever go on a mission to Mars?

4. Did you get to see the eclipse from space?

5. What feeling on Earth closely relates to what it feels like to be in  

   space?

6. Has the ISS ever been struck by space debris before?

7. What would happen if someone got sick on the ISS?

8. How long did you have to train to enter zero gravity?

9. How do you stay warm on the ISS?

10. What do you do in your free time?

11. Is using liquids in science experiments on the ISS hard?

12. What was your first day on the ISS like?

13. How bright is the sun in space?

14. In your job, what is the most dangerous thing you have to be prepared 

    for, and has that thing ever actually happened?

15. Can you sleep at night because there is no sunrise or sunset?

16. Which do you like better, space or earth?

17. What is the first meal you'll eat when you get back to earth?

18. Are there any space-specific games that you play on the ISS, like 

    football or video games?

19. Is there space pizza?

20. Do you have a nickname for your rocket?

 

 

PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:

 

      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the 

      International Space Station (ARISS).

 

      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status

 

 

Next planned event(s):

 

      1. Meadows Elementary School, Manhattan  Beach, CA, direct via KM6BWB 

         The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS 

         The scheduled astronaut is Paolo Nespoli IZ?JPA 

         Contact is a go  for: Fri 2017-09-08 17:05 UTC

 

 

About ARISS: 

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and  National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).  The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues.  With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums.  Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio.  For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org.

 

Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN

 

 


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From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Aug 31 19:58:36 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 15:58:36 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cleaning up the Global APRS Satellite ground station
 network (update a)
Message-ID: <46aed2e8553c2a73ed650481d2774cff@mail.gmail.com>

[Updated in response to feedback from the initial post on 7 Aug]

We need to better organize our APRS satellite  ground stations network. Over
an 18 month review, we found about 330 unique IGATES feeding the APRS-IS and
captured by the two APRS live satellite web pages on FINDU:
http://pcsat.findu.com  and http://ariss.net

A hot topic at SmallSat conferences is always the need for remote ground
station networks.  But for two decades, APRS has always had a global ground
station network with hundreds of SATGATES on the APRS downlinks of 145.825.

Here are some problems that I think we can solve:
1) The black-hole problem of locals direct to Satgates not showing up on the
downlink pages
2) No means for premium stations to self identity
3) No means to easily compare satgate capabilities
4) No means to easily indicate satellite traffic captured on other
frequencies
5) No easy means to visualize the network in real time
6) The problem of distinguishing RX only SATGATES
7) Future potential for remote transmission via a remote SATGATE for
satellite controllers

BlackHole Fix:  Steve Dimse, K4HG, the author of FINDU proposes:  Proper
SATGATEs clients should simply delay any directly heard packet for 15
seconds when operating in satgate mode. If a local station successfully
digipeats via the satellite and is captured either through this satgate or
through another satgate, then the digipeated packet will make it to
ariss.net before the directly heard packet. Putting this into all SATGATE
software clients would solve the problem (in the area of that satgate and in
the area of that user).

There are far too many different APRS IGATE clients to make this work across
the board.

But when combined with our goal to more formally define and identify the
APRS-Satellite Ground station network, it does become a viable approach when
we use a unique symbol just for these new SATGATES.  As previously proposed,
we define a new SATGATE symbol, \] that is currently unassigned for SATGATE
stations that are permanent parts of this network.  Then, when they
implement the 15 second delay on direct-heard packets to solve the
black-hole problem, they can further segregate their major capabilities
using Overlay characters.


Phase 1 begins with identifying all permanent SATGATES intending to
participate with the special \] symbol.

Phase 2 adds blackhole fix to clients which then self-identify their class
overlays on that symbol.

\] For immediate use by permanent satgates intending to self-identify as
part of this network (but w/o the BH fix)
A] for AMSAT Oscar class tracking station (2-way, 50W typical radio)
L] for Lower gain class stations (think, Arrow antenna, 3 elements on VHF)
O] for Omni antenna coverage (no tracking)
H] for HFSAT (that will be our next one in a few years)
U] for UHF downlinks ( channel TBD)
S] for Schools and University class A stations
R] for future class A remote access satgates (for satellite operators only)
V] for Class A stations scanning and tracking Various other satellite
downlinks APRS traffic
T] for omni stations that similary Tune other satellite downlinks APRS
traffic
P] for Portable stations currently operating in non permanent locations

FINDU shows no current users of this symbol.  But once SATGATE stations
begin to implement it you can see them using the FINDU filter:
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/symbol.cgi?icon=\]&limit=200

So you can use \] now, but do not use any of the overlays until the
blackhole fix is implemented.
Maybe later the FINDU search can include a wild card for the overlay so we
can search for *] symbols.

Bob

From royldean at gmail.com  Thu Aug 31 21:13:30 2017
From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:13:30 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cleaning up the Global APRS Satellite ground station
 network (update a)
Message-ID: <CADGPg2s0oFdWA1Jqk1RYRC4w-FdTf-oG5jfUFxzg6xv3TuBqGw@mail.gmail.com>

Bob -

I have a cheesy omni running direwolf that had been running a 5 second
delay.   I changed it to the new symbol (from the black diamond with "R"
overlay), and also changed it to the "O" overlay as the "SATGATE" delay has
been changed to 15s.   Do I understand you correctly that I should leave
the overlay on because the 15s delay is implemented?

Or by "blackhole fix", do you mean an IS system wide fix?

--Roy
K3RLD

So you can use \] now, but do not use any of the overlays until the
> blackhole fix is implemented.
> Maybe later the FINDU search can include a wild card for the overlay so we
> can search for *] symbols.
>
> Bob
>
>

From bruninga at usna.edu  Thu Aug 31 23:07:31 2017
From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:07:31 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cleaning up the Global APRS Satellite ground station
 network (update a)
In-Reply-To: <CADGPg2s0oFdWA1Jqk1RYRC4w-FdTf-oG5jfUFxzg6xv3TuBqGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADGPg2s0oFdWA1Jqk1RYRC4w-FdTf-oG5jfUFxzg6xv3TuBqGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8bfff2e4827de0fbcd711945fc8cdea2@mail.gmail.com>

Once your satgate has the blackhole fix (15s delay) then it can use the
now overlay symbol.
Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Roy Dean
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:14 PM
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cleaning up the Global APRS Satellite ground
station network (update a)

Bob -

I have a cheesy omni running direwolf that had been running a 5 second
delay.   I changed it to the new symbol (from the black diamond with "R"
overlay), and also changed it to the "O" overlay as the "SATGATE" delay
has
been changed to 15s.   Do I understand you correctly that I should leave
the overlay on because the 15s delay is implemented?

Or by "blackhole fix", do you mean an IS system wide fix?

--Roy
K3RLD

So you can use \] now, but do not use any of the overlays until the
> blackhole fix is implemented.
> Maybe later the FINDU search can include a wild card for the overlay
> so we can search for *] symbols.
>
> Bob
>
>
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