[amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85

Paul Stoetzer n8hm at arrl.net
Tue Aug 15 01:30:32 UTC 2017


The convention in logging split band or mode QSOs is to use what band or
mode you're transmitting on.

That said, LoTW doesn't care about the frequencies if the propagation mode
is set to 'SAT'

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Frank Westphal <k6fw1 at verizon.net> wrote:

> I use LOGIC 9 and it uploads the downlink frequency.  I enter both uplink
> and downlink frequencies into the logging program LOCIC 9.  I receive lots
> of matches and that seems to be the accepted convention.  I know ARRL
> suggests uploading the uplink frequency in their documentation.  LOGIC 9
> does not follow that recommendation and from my experience most other sat
> operators are not either.
>
> YMMV
>
> 73,
> Frank
> K6FW
>
>
> On 8/14/17 10:27 AM, jerry.tuyls at telenet.be wrote:
>
>> Spending some time here by telling several times on AO-85 passes about
>> bad modulation to the same stations, but they DON'T listen.
>>
>> Just ignoring them, because i cannot understand them on my
>> TS-790/FT-847.No narrow FM and no PL tone. Never got a problem.
>>
>> And please...why do some stations upload logs with DWNlink freq on sat
>> qso's instead of the UPlink freq?
>> Always having some rejected qsl's because qso's don't match due to wrong
>> band. I log with VQlog, uplink and dwnlink freq etc, so i think the TX-freq
>> is most important for logging sat'qso's and not the RX-freq?
>>
>> 73's
>>
>> Jerry,ON4CJQ
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Aan: "Matthew Stevens" <matthew at mrstevens.net>, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
>> Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Verzonden: Maandag 14 augustus 2017 02:33:37
>> Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>>
>> "...food in the mic hole, etc."!!!  LOL!!!  - Bob  K8BL
>>        From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
>>   To: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:25 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modulation levels on AO-85
>>     Like Jerry said, its more an issue with mic gain or poor mic
>> technique than anything else.
>>
>> - Matthew nj4y
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 19:18, Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Plus a LOT of people are running Narrow Modulation now.
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> Sig
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>>>> On 8/13/2017 6:14 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>>>> 5 kHz is the nominal "wide" setting for ham radio equipment on the
>>>> VHF/UHF bands.  So a rig set to 5 kHz is what we all usually expect.
>>>> 5 kHz deviation with 3 kHz audio (the usual top for most voice) would be
>>>> about 16 kHz bandwidth.  The deviation number alone is not equal to
>>>> bandwidth.  ("Carson's Rule")
>>>> Low audio is usually just that, not talking loud enough, not talking
>>>> into the mic properly, mic gain setting too low, food in the mic hole,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Buxton, NØJY
>>>>
>>>> On 8/13/2017 17:55, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>>>>> I’ve noticed lately that many stations on AO-85 have barely audible
>>>>> modulation. Yet other stations have clear audio with good quieting. I have
>>>>> heard the some manufacturers of hand-held and mobile rigs are setting their
>>>>> maximum deviation to 5 kHz or even less. I have noticed the same effect on
>>>>> local repeaters. Has anyone done any tests of the deviation required for
>>>>> reasonable quieting on AO-85? Or are more stations using lower power than
>>>>> in the past?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron W5RKN
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