[amsat-bb] LoTW still a big failure for checking satellite QSOs

[Eduardo PY2RN]

Agree Clayton, big LoTW fan myself, just think it needs a little trimming for satellite qso checking. 
Thanks all.
73 Ed PY2RN

      From: Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg at amsat.org>
 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 3:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LoTW still a big failure for checking satellite QSOs
   
It is not luck, Ed. I have had the same thing happen to me on at least 
two occasions.  I am 100% confident my upload contained the PROP_MODE 
and SAT_NAME fields. The other station did not upload with those fields. 
The contact became a QSL record in the LoTW system as a terrestrial QSO. 
Fortunately I was able to assist the two stations to correct and 
re-upload. The QSL's then were corrected to a satellite contact.

I have encountered some other special cases like this from time to time 
in the LoTW system. It is not perfect but it generally works well and 
faster than postal card exchanges.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 2/25/2017 11:50, Eduardo PY2RN wrote:
> Paul, may be I am the "lucky" one, but I have plenty of examples in LoTW here.One of the most interesting is a QSO between PY and CT made via AO-40 satellite, where I have set satellite name and propagation mode correctly, but the other station not, LoTW just credited terrestrial qso between PY and CT on 1.2GHz.
>
> | Call Sign |  | PY2RN |
> | DXCC |  | BRAZIL |
> | CQ Zone |  | 11 |
> | ITU Zone |  | 15 |
> | Grid |  | GG66LW |
> | Worked Station |
> | Worked |  | CT1--- |
> | DXCC |  | PORTUGAL (272) |
> | CQ Zone |  | 14 |
> | ITU Zone |  | 37 |
> | Grid |  | IM67-- |
> | Date/Time |  | 2002-11-08 23:50:00 |
> | Mode |  | SSB (PHONE) |
> | Band |  | 23CM |
> | QSL |  | 2016-10-13 11:33:07 |
> |  |
> | Record ID 570561985 Received: 2016-10-13 11:33:07
>
>  |
>
>
> 73 - Ed PY2RN
>
>      From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net>
>  To: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net>
> Cc: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:37 PM
>  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LoTW still a big failure for checking satellite QSOs
>
> Ed,
>
> LoTW will not confirm a QSO when the propagation mode and satellite
> name don't match.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn at arrl.net> wrote:
>> This has been already taken to LoTW admins at ARRL but they insist in blaming the "sat operator" as she/he registered the QSO with wrong/missing information, which is true, but the system, LoTW the case, should avoid confirming a match between two stations when one of them does not specify PROPAGATION MODE = SAT. What LoTW actually does when one station specifies it and the other not is to confirm a match QSO but the credit goes to the terrestrial VUCC on VHF, UHF, etc. which, in my opinion, put high risk to terrestrial VUCC credibility through LoTW confirmations.
>>
>> 73 - Ed PY2RN.
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