[amsat-bb] Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking

Thu Feb 8 01:41:54 UTC 2018

Very helpful, thanks.  I look forward to engaging this group in solving the
problem.

Mike, WA9PIE

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Ted Krempa <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:

> Mike, open the 'tuning dial' and you can use the sliders on the right
>
> 73, Ted
> K7TRK
>
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> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tracking errors with HRD Sat tracking
>
> Peter,
> I have been told the same thing about HRD, however nobody has ever given me
> precise explanations on what the 'odd quirks' are.
> I have used It for controlling my radios Doppler correction in the past and
> it's rock solid. It's just a predefined formula that runs. The same formula
> that is used by all Doppler tracking programs.
> The only drawback that I ran into was having no real way to adjust the
> Doppler tuning on the fly like you can with SatPC32. It has a tic-box to
> enable manual tuning during Doppler correction but it doesn't work. Without
> this feature it is literally impossible to use on the linear birds. Getting
> this fixed would be a giant leap forward in making it a viable satellite
> application.
>
> Michael KC4ZVA
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>
> On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Peter Goodhall <peter at m3php.com> wrote:
>
> The issue isn't AOS times matching its todo with doppler correction.
>
> Previously (Not aware it's been fixed) it doesn't allow for proper
> calibration between radio and the software so doppler is never correct so
> you drift in an odd way.
>
> HRD has always tracked a satellite in the sense of rotator pointing beyond
> that, however, it's got/had some really odd quirks.
>
> Before I gave up I used it on FM satellites but for automated control when
> using linear it was just unusable.
>
> If there's been some sudden correction recently Mike then do let us know.
>
> (Sorry can't help offer experience to dev, C++,MFC isn't my strong point
> more a slap together simple C# apps to interact with apps todo what I want)
>
> Peter, 2M0SQL
>
> On 6 February 2018 at 02:11, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote:
> > Hmmm... is everyone else just on an old version or something?
> >
> > Mike, WA9PIE
> >
> >> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Frank <k6fw1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> That is correct.
> >>
> >> Frank, K6FW
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/5/18 12:34 PM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. wrote:
> >>
> >> You're on the 787 release then?
> >>
> >> Mike, WA9PIE
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Frank <k6fw1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I run HRD Sat, SatPC32 and MacDoppler on my computer and all the AOS
> >>> times match.  I am running the latest release from September 2017 of
> >>> HRD Sat.
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>> K6FW
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 2/5/18 9:16 AM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> As someone said previously, it's probably a math problem that got
> >>>> buggered up somewhere along the way.
> >>>>
> >>>> We will get this fixed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike, WA9PIE
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Francis Geraci
> >>>> <fgeraci14 at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have noticed mention about issues with HRD Sat tracking. No
> "specific"
> >>>>> problems were mentioned  I have used HRD for may years, and know
> >>>>> it pretty well.
> >>>>> After the last few "updates", an upcoming sat pass in HRD, the
> >>>>> pass over my QTH, is about 5 - 10 minutes later.
> >>>>> I, also run SatPC32 at the same time, along with pass predictions
> >>>>> from other Web sites. All of the predictions agree, except for
> >>>>> HRD, reporting the pass later. I have missed many passes using HRD.
> >>>>> When I switched to SatPC32, I started hearing passes.
> >>>>> My "keps" are current, QTH is correct, time is correct, and all
> >>>>> the "personal" information is correct in the HRD Logbook. I am
> "totally"
> >>>>> stumped.
> >>>>> Best toAll
> >>>>> WB1FXX
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