From kk5do at arrl.net Mon Jan 1 04:46:06 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 22:46:06 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It Message-ID: Be the first on your block to receive the new AMSAT Award. Yes, after many years, AMSAT has a new award. Visit http://www.amsat.org click on Services, then Awards and then the very first award on the top (hint... it is the new one) I have not had a chance to work up the submission sheet for it. I will do that soon. It will make it easier to submit and check the award. Thanks to those that gave input and guidance for the award. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From jim at k6ccc.org Mon Jan 1 05:20:55 2018 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 21:20:55 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> On 12/31/2017 20:46, Bruce wrote: > Be the first on your block to receive the new AMSAT Award. Yes, after > many years, AMSAT has a new award. Visit http://www.amsat.org > > click on Services, then Awards and then the very first award on the > top (hint... it is the new one) Why are you awarding more points for almost any other aspect of this award for something that has nothing to do with radio, satellites, or operating on those?? More points for a social media post than for operating?? Really? -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org Ofc: 818-548-4804 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Jan 1 05:46:12 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 05:46:12 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> References: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: It?s meant to encourage engaging with the great group of satellite operators on social media. Too often operators find out about an activation of a grid they need after the activation is already complete. AMSAT would like to encourage operators try their hand at roving to new grids and also to announce their activities to the community and then document their experiences roving to new grids in the AMSAT Journal. There are multiple ways to earn this award. Social media usage and Journal articles are ways to enhance and share the experience with others, but are not mandatory. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 00:32 Jim Walls wrote: > On 12/31/2017 20:46, Bruce wrote: > > Be the first on your block to receive the new AMSAT Award. Yes, after > > many years, AMSAT has a new award. Visit http://www.amsat.org > > > > click on Services, then Awards and then the very first award on the > > top (hint... it is the new one) > > Why are you awarding more points for almost any other aspect of this > award for something that has nothing to do with radio, satellites, or > operating on those? More points for a social media post than for > operating? Really? > > -- > 73 > ------------------------------------- > Jim Walls - K6CCC > jim at k6ccc.org > Ofc: 818-548-4804 > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ > AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Mon Jan 1 14:46:30 2018 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 09:46:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> References: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: <4671B2FD-CD09-46CD-B442-C32885301EFC@gmail.com> I think it?s great. There are already too many awards for people sitting at their rig working every possible station they hear and too little for those doing the hard work. A lot of rare grids were activated last year and a large portion of these were promoted on social media. This has allowed for so many more people to catch a rover in places that may not be active again for years or even a lifetime. The act of roving is selfless and giving credit to those who go out of their way to help as many people as possible is long overdue. Now I just need to figure out where I?m going to go for my next /mm activation and make sure it?s worthy of writing a journal article. 73, W8LID > On Jan 1, 2018, at 00:20, Jim Walls wrote: > >> On 12/31/2017 20:46, Bruce wrote: >> Be the first on your block to receive the new AMSAT Award. Yes, after many years, AMSAT has a new award. Visit http://www.amsat.org >> >> click on Services, then Awards and then the very first award on the top (hint... it is the new one) > > Why are you awarding more points for almost any other aspect of this award for something that has nothing to do with radio, satellites, or operating on those? More points for a social media post than for operating? Really? > > -- > 73 > ------------------------------------- > Jim Walls - K6CCC > jim at k6ccc.org > Ofc: 818-548-4804 > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ > AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Mon Jan 1 14:52:12 2018 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 08:52:12 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: References: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> Message-ID: <001301d38310$1bb134f0$53139ed0$@net> > Social media usage and Journal articles are ways to enhance > and share the experience with others, but are not mandatory. Using social media to reach the most operators makes sense once folks are aware of the on-line trends ... AMSAT-BB 2,079 subscribed AMSAT News Service 2,404 subscribed AMSAT-NA Facebook 3,747 followers AMSAT-NA Twitter 11,300 followers -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Jan 1 16:07:23 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 11:07:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: <001301d38310$1bb134f0$53139ed0$@net> References: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> <001301d38310$1bb134f0$53139ed0$@net> Message-ID: Thanks for posting the statistics, JoAnne. And it's not just the number of subscribers. The conversations and debates that used to occur here on the BB have largely moved over to Twitter and, most dramatically, to the AMSAT North America Facebook group. Especially since the launch of AO-91, there's been a dramatic increase in the amount of conversation on the Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/). Since November 1st (and compared to the previous 60 day period), posts are up 124%, comments are up 192%, and reactions are up 177%. 2,935 of the 3,747 members have been active (in terms of at least seeing one or more posts) over the past 60 days. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 9:52 AM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: >> Social media usage and Journal articles are ways to enhance >> and share the experience with others, but are not mandatory. > > Using social media to reach the most operators makes sense once folks are aware of the on-line trends ... > > AMSAT-BB 2,079 subscribed > AMSAT News Service 2,404 subscribed > AMSAT-NA Facebook 3,747 followers > AMSAT-NA Twitter 11,300 followers > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4hfn at comcast.net Mon Jan 1 18:29:31 2018 From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (DAMON RUNION) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 12:29:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Master award Message-ID: <2073724666.344342.1514831371831@connect.xfinity.com> Congrats to NP4JV Grid Master award #7 Good job http://www.squirtthebirds.com Happy New Year WA4HFN From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Jan 1 22:08:47 2018 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 22:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1833311020.7230960.1514844527160@mail.yahoo.com> The new "Rover Award" can be found at: AMSAT Rover Award ? AMSAT-NA 73 & HNY, ? ? ? Bob ?K8BL | | | | | | | | | | | AMSAT Rover Award ? AMSAT-NA | | | | From: Bruce To: "amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org" Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 11:48 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It Be the first on your block to receive the new AMSAT Award. Yes, after many years, AMSAT has a new award. Visit http://www.amsat.org click on Services, then Awards and then the very first award on the top (hint... it is the new one) I have not had a chance to work up the submission sheet for it. I will do that soon. It will make it easier to submit and check the award. Thanks to those that gave input and guidance for the award. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ? ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE ? ? ? ? ? Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k8bl at ameritech.net Mon Jan 1 22:16:01 2018 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 22:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: <1833311020.7230960.1514844527160@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1833311020.7230960.1514844527160@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1036927366.7222421.1514844961089@mail.yahoo.com> Try this since only plain text seems to go through: https://www.amsat.org/amsat-rover-award/ 73 & HNY, Bob K8BL ________________________________ From: R.T.Liddy To: "kk5do at arrl.net" ; "amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org" Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It The new "Rover Award" can be found at: AMSAT Rover Award ? AMSAT-NA 73 & HNY, Bob K8BL | | | | | | | | | | | AMSAT Rover Award ? AMSAT-NA | | | | From: Bruce To: "amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org" Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 11:48 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It Be the first on your block to receive the new AMSAT Award. Yes, after many years, AMSAT has a new award. Visit http://www.amsat.org click on Services, then Awards and then the very first award on the top (hint... it is the new one) I have not had a chance to work up the submission sheet for it. I will do that soon. It will make it easier to submit and check the award. Thanks to those that gave input and guidance for the award. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john at papays.com Mon Jan 1 21:44:05 2018 From: john at papays.com (John Papay) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 16:44:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards/Endorsements for December 2017 Message-ID: <20180101221523.655E38862@lansing182.amsat.org> Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period December 1, 2017 through January 1, 2018. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! CALL 1Nov17 1Dec17 N8HM 1000 1005 N6UK 475 551 K5ND 391 439 WN9Q 251 416 K7TAB 186 274 NS3L 225 251 KE9AJ 106 228 FG8OJ 130 200 W7JSD 150 189 VA3NNA 176 179 KE4AL 175 177 K9EI 118 139 NA2AA 127 (NEW VUCC) PT9BM 100 126 (missing on 1Dec2017 report) XE2RV 118 120 AI6GS 290 119 (possible problem with W8LID ranking) K5IX 100 (NEW VUCC) This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for December 1, 2017 and January 1, 2018. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work! This report was the 12th in a series covering 2017. It is time for someone else to take it over if there is any interest. Simply download the .pdf file from the ARRL website on the first of every month and do a comparison with the last month. Keep in mind that these reports are not archived so if you don't download it on the 1st, that report is gone on the 2nd of the month. The January 1, 2018 report can be downloaded at papays.com/vucc01012018.pdf (It will stay there until mid February.) Happy New Year. 73, John K8YSE --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From matthew at mrstevens.net Mon Jan 1 22:17:34 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 17:17:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: <1833311020.7230960.1514844527160@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1833311020.7230960.1514844527160@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <434B922E-A947-4AED-A38A-C38119EE6EA9@mrstevens.net> http://amsat.org/amsat-rover-award 73, - Matthew nj4y Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2018, at 17:08, R.T.Liddy wrote: > > The new "Rover Award" can be found at: > AMSAT Rover Award ? AMSAT-NA > > 73 & HNY, Bob K8BL > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > AMSAT Rover Award ? AMSAT-NA > | | > > | > > | > > > > > From: Bruce > To: "amsat-bb at AMSAT.Org" > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 11:48 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It > > Be the first on your block to receive the new AMSAT Award. Yes, after > many years, AMSAT has a new award. Visit http://www.amsat.org > > click on Services, then Awards and then the very first award on the top > (hint... it is the new one) > > I have not had a chance to work up the submission sheet for it. I will > do that soon. It will make it easier to submit and check the award. > > Thanks to those that gave input and guidance for the award. > > 73...bruce > > -- > > Bruce Paige, KK5DO > > AMSAT Director Contests and Awards > AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 > > ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE > > Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* > Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com > Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes > > Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News > http://www.arrl.org > > AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g0kla at arrl.net Mon Jan 1 23:48:44 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 18:48:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] WisP Help File converted for use on Windows 10 Message-ID: If you are using WISP and can not open the help file, then I decompiled and compiled an HTML version. Unfortunately it does not link directly from the help menus in the program, but you can read it and search for topics. If anyone has a better solution then let me know. It is here for anyone that wants it: http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/test/wisp.chm 73 Chris -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Tue Jan 2 03:56:35 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 03:56:35 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ DM34/DM44, Wednesday (3 January 2018) Message-ID: Hi! It's a new year, and I still have a couple of free days this week. I am going to make another quick run to the DM34/DM44 grid boundary in northern Arizona on Wednesday, 3 January 2018. If all goes well, I may be able to sneak in on the western FO-29 pass starting just before 1700 UTC. Otherwise, I will start with the SO-50 pass coming by just after 1700 UTC. Along with these two satellites, along with some others - AO-91, FalconSat-3, even AO-7 if it stays in mode B for a pass around 2026 UTC. I will use APRS for the drive up to the DM34/DM44 line and back on Wednesday, squawking as WD9EWK-9. This should appear on sites like http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9 among others. Updates will be posted on my @WD9EWK Twitter account while I am up there. QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World after the quick road trip. If a QSL card is needed to confirm a contact, please send me an e-mail with the QSO details. If you are in the log, I will send you a QSL card. No need to first send me a card or SASE. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Tue Jan 2 18:46:35 2018 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 12:46:35 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Monthly VUCC Awards/Endorsements Message-ID: <6C18A44B021545A083D149DA822FC2E3@Ron8300PC> I offered to take over the Monthly VUCC Awards/Endorsements list that John, K8YSE, has been posting on this list. If anyone has comments or suggestions for changes to the list, please let me know. Otherwise I?ll be following a similar format that John has been using. Happy New Year. Ron W5RKN From thd74 at outlook.com Mon Jan 1 16:34:12 2018 From: thd74 at outlook.com (P B) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 16:34:12 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: References: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> <001301d38310$1bb134f0$53139ed0$@net>, Message-ID: I knew of the presence on Twitter since I?m active there, but since I am a Facebook holdout I didn?t realize there is good AMSAT content there as well. ________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of Paul Stoetzer Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 11:07:23 AM To: JoAnne Maenpaa Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It Thanks for posting the statistics, JoAnne. And it's not just the number of subscribers. The conversations and debates that used to occur here on the BB have largely moved over to Twitter and, most dramatically, to the AMSAT North America Facebook group. Especially since the launch of AO-91, there's been a dramatic increase in the amount of conversation on the Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/). Since November 1st (and compared to the previous 60 day period), posts are up 124%, comments are up 192%, and reactions are up 177%. 2,935 of the 3,747 members have been active (in terms of at least seeing one or more posts) over the past 60 days. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 9:52 AM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: >> Social media usage and Journal articles are ways to enhance >> and share the experience with others, but are not mandatory. > > Using social media to reach the most operators makes sense once folks are aware of the on-line trends ... > > AMSAT-BB 2,079 subscribed > AMSAT News Service 2,404 subscribed > AMSAT-NA Facebook 3,747 followers > AMSAT-NA Twitter 11,300 followers > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aa2bn at comcast.net Tue Jan 2 19:20:31 2018 From: aa2bn at comcast.net (John Zaruba Jr) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 14:20:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It In-Reply-To: References: <843d752f-f5f3-f5a7-d3a3-e9527e9597f6@k6ccc.org> <001301d38310$1bb134f0$53139ed0$@net> Message-ID: I love the AMSAT content on Twitter but I draw the line at the festering cesspool of drama that is Facebook. 73, John K2ZA AMSAT #22683 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2018, at 11:34, P B wrote: > > I knew of the presence on Twitter since I?m active there, but since I am a Facebook holdout I didn?t realize there is good AMSAT content there as well. > > ________________________________ > From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of Paul Stoetzer > Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 11:07:23 AM > To: JoAnne Maenpaa > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra Read All About It > > Thanks for posting the statistics, JoAnne. > > And it's not just the number of subscribers. The conversations and > debates that used to occur here on the BB have largely moved over to > Twitter and, most dramatically, to the AMSAT North America Facebook > group. Especially since the launch of AO-91, there's been a dramatic > increase in the amount of conversation on the Facebook group > (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/). Since November 1st (and > compared to the previous 60 day period), posts are up 124%, comments > are up 192%, and reactions are up 177%. 2,935 of the 3,747 members > have been active (in terms of at least seeing one or more posts) over > the past 60 days. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 9:52 AM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: >>> Social media usage and Journal articles are ways to enhance >>> and share the experience with others, but are not mandatory. >> >> Using social media to reach the most operators makes sense once folks are aware of the on-line trends ... >> >> AMSAT-BB 2,079 subscribed >> AMSAT News Service 2,404 subscribed >> AMSAT-NA Facebook 3,747 followers >> AMSAT-NA Twitter 11,300 followers >> >> -- >> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM >> k9jkm at amsat.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k8bl at ameritech.net Tue Jan 2 22:40:53 2018 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 22:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Monthly VUCC Awards/Endorsements In-Reply-To: <6C18A44B021545A083D149DA822FC2E3@Ron8300PC> References: <6C18A44B021545A083D149DA822FC2E3@Ron8300PC> Message-ID: <1426542290.28985.1514932853279@mail.yahoo.com> Ron, Thanks for taking over from John K8YSE!! Sometimes it's hard to find folks to volunteer for things ?and it's great that you were able to jump in so quickly!! 73 & HNY, ? ? Bob ?K8BL ? (AMSAT #6593, since 1979) From: Ronald G. Parsons To: AMSAT-BB Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 1:46 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Monthly VUCC Awards/Endorsements I offered to take over the Monthly VUCC Awards/Endorsements list that John, K8YSE, has been posting on this list. If anyone has comments or suggestions for changes to the list, please let me know. Otherwise I?ll be following a similar format that John has been using. Happy New Year. Ron W5RKN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | From bruninga at usna.edu Tue Jan 2 23:05:43 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 18:05:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] QIKCOM-1 possibility? Message-ID: There was a possible report that the HOST spacecraft for QIKCOM-1 may have been heard from. If so, there is a chance that QIKCOM-1 may get powered up. I checked the PCSAT.FINDU.COM and SATWATCH web pages and see no hits... But since those websites have never seen a QIKCOM-1 packet either, then we don't know for certain if they will capture it if there ever is one... Possible QIKCOM-1 callsigns are QIKCOM-1, QIKCOM-11 and QIKCOM-3.. Very small chance, but something to notice if you see it. On 145.825 (and possibly 144.39 over the USA)... Don't waste your time, but just be aware it is still up there, and if the host ever powers up, then we come up too. Bob, WB4APR From kk4oyj at gmail.com Tue Jan 2 23:19:33 2018 From: kk4oyj at gmail.com (John, 9H5G) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 18:19:33 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Falling Arrow Message-ID: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> I?ve become aware that my Arrow may be failing. I?m less and less able to hear the birds towards LOS and sometimes it?s taking the 1st 1/4 of an FM pass to hear anything typically more than 30 degrees elevation. I know there are many of you working at much lower elevations so I?m beginning to think I have a problem. It?s a salty environment here in C6 and there a little corrosion here and there. Sadly, I have no antenna analyser with me for UHF or VHF. I?ve already stripped it down once and cleaned everything so any advice on the following gratefully received: What elevations is it reasonable to hear each FM sat using a THD-72 (listening VFO A). What other places might I look for reduced performance? Thx and 73 de John, C6ATS From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Jan 2 23:23:15 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 18:23:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Falling Arrow In-Reply-To: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> References: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> Message-ID: Without obstructions, you should hear all FM satellites horizon to horizon with an Arrow and TH-D72. I'd check out the internal duplexer as a possible point of failure. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:19 PM, John, 9H5G wrote: > I?ve become aware that my Arrow may be failing. I?m less and less able to hear the birds towards LOS and sometimes it?s taking the 1st 1/4 of an FM pass to hear anything typically more than 30 degrees elevation. > > I know there are many of you working at much lower elevations so I?m beginning to think I have a problem. It?s a salty environment here in C6 and there a little corrosion here and there. Sadly, I have no antenna analyser with me for UHF or VHF. I?ve already stripped it down once and cleaned everything so any advice on the following gratefully received: > > What elevations is it reasonable to hear each FM sat using a THD-72 (listening VFO A). What other places might I look for reduced performance? > > Thx and 73 > > de John, C6ATS > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com Tue Jan 2 23:23:53 2018 From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 14:23:53 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Falling Arrow In-Reply-To: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> References: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd think coax is a more likely failure point (I speak from experience) 73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH (ex NJ7H/VE8 for those that experienced it with me) On Jan 2, 2018 2:19 PM, "John, 9H5G" wrote: > I?ve become aware that my Arrow may be failing. I?m less and less able to > hear the birds towards LOS and sometimes it?s taking the 1st 1/4 of an FM > pass to hear anything typically more than 30 degrees elevation. > > I know there are many of you working at much lower elevations so I?m > beginning to think I have a problem. It?s a salty environment here in C6 > and there a little corrosion here and there. Sadly, I have no antenna > analyser with me for UHF or VHF. I?ve already stripped it down once and > cleaned everything so any advice on the following gratefully received: > > What elevations is it reasonable to hear each FM sat using a THD-72 > (listening VFO A). What other places might I look for reduced performance? > > Thx and 73 > > de John, C6ATS > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w5acm at swbell.net Wed Jan 3 01:00:15 2018 From: w5acm at swbell.net (Andy) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 19:00:15 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Falling Arrow In-Reply-To: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> References: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00fe01d3842e$388ea1b0$a9abe510$@swbell.net> Bypass the diplexer and attached coax completely with a single coax run to either the 70-cm elements or 2-M elements (depending on which band you are listening on). Compare the results to the antenna array with the diplexer coax arrangement. I had a failed BNC connector on my Arrow and have heard of folks with coax problems at the diplexer board. Andy W5ACM And C6ACM when on appropriate cruise ships... -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John, 9H5G Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 5:20 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Falling Arrow I?ve become aware that my Arrow may be failing. I?m less and less able to hear the birds towards LOS and sometimes it?s taking the 1st 1/4 of an FM pass to hear anything typically more than 30 degrees elevation. I know there are many of you working at much lower elevations so I?m beginning to think I have a problem. It?s a salty environment here in C6 and there a little corrosion here and there. Sadly, I have no antenna analyser with me for UHF or VHF. I?ve already stripped it down once and cleaned everything so any advice on the following gratefully received: What elevations is it reasonable to hear each FM sat using a THD-72 (listening VFO A). What other places might I look for reduced performance? Thx and 73 de John, C6ATS _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From peter.guelzow at kourou.de Wed Jan 3 11:24:53 2018 From: peter.guelzow at kourou.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Peter_G=c3=bclzow?=) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:24:53 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail-2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4fe5bd24-fa48-c1c7-015e-5235b0091252@kourou.de> Es'hail-2 reached a major milestone in spacecraft completion, with successful completion of critical acoustic and vibration tests. ??? ????? ????-2 ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ?? ????? ???????? ????? ??????? ????? #Eshailsat #Spacecraft #Satellite #Communication #Broadcast #Operator #Milestone #Qatar #MiddleEast #Africa Source: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1734202026619631&id=309354982437683 From uwaveguy at gmail.com Wed Jan 3 15:52:51 2018 From: uwaveguy at gmail.com (Bob Freeman) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 10:52:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3 Element Yagi Design Message-ID: Hello, Just wanted to mention a couple of items. Terry Osborne, ZL2BAC, noted the desire to use elements made from measuring tape to reduce weight. I have used a novel approach to using tape that allows the antenna to be quickly broken down for transport as the 2m antennas can be a little bulky to say the least! If interested, look for the title, "Tape Yagi-Uda Antennas for 2 meter and 70 cm Satellite Operation," at the bottom of this page of my site: http://ki4sbl.dodropin.org/Antennas/Antennas.html . The NEC design files and a report of antenna measurement results from the SVHFS Conference in Charlotte last year are are available, as well. Please let me know of results (and especially any improvements) should you decide to build these antennas. On a somewhat related topic, there are only three (3) CNCTRK AZ/EL rotator/positioner kits remaining in my eBay listing. The tape Yagi-Udas work well with the positioner. Have fun! Bob KI4SBL From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Wed Jan 3 17:13:20 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:13:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Falling Arrow In-Reply-To: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> References: <3D0BA66A-5A44-4C58-A7C7-1DD32DE81022@gmail.com> Message-ID: Pull everything out of line of an individual antenna and its feedpoint. Take a known good piece of coax, attach it to one of the bands (2 or 70 cm) and see if the results improve. Work backward from there to isolate which component is having a problem. But if both bands are not working, you already know there is a problem in a common component (diplexer or shared coax from diplexer to radio). Bob N4HY On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:19 PM, John, 9H5G wrote: > I?ve become aware that my Arrow may be failing. I?m less and less able to > hear the birds towards LOS and sometimes it?s taking the 1st 1/4 of an FM > pass to hear anything typically more than 30 degrees elevation. > > I know there are many of you working at much lower elevations so I?m > beginning to think I have a problem. It?s a salty environment here in C6 > and there a little corrosion here and there. Sadly, I have no antenna > analyser with me for UHF or VHF. I?ve already stripped it down once and > cleaned everything so any advice on the following gratefully received: > > What elevations is it reasonable to hear each FM sat using a THD-72 > (listening VFO A). What other places might I look for reduced performance? > > Thx and 73 > > de John, C6ATS > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From g.shirville at btinternet.com Wed Jan 3 18:03:26 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (GRAHAM SHIRVILLE) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 18:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO73 Operations References: <1618906293.14112905.1515002606838.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1618906293.14112905.1515002606838@mail.yahoo.com> Hi All, As planned, AO73 is now back in autonomous mode until Friday evening when the usual "weekend of transponder" mode will be restarted. In other news, please be aware that AO73 will start to experience much shorter eclipse periods during this month and will be in full sun for some weeks starting around 6th February until 13th March. The operating modes for this period will be announced nearer the time! 73GrahamG3VZV From cqkg8co at gmail.com Wed Jan 3 18:28:17 2018 From: cqkg8co at gmail.com (Brian) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 13:28:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Axial Polarization Question Message-ID: I have an old 2 meter and 440 twist antenna that I would like to re-purpose for satellite operations. Any thoughts on using Axial polarization for the ease of use ? Thank you Brian, KG8CO From rsoifer1 at aol.com Wed Jan 3 20:32:50 2018 From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (rsoifer1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 15:32:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] CW Activity Day Message-ID: <160bdb9f8d8-1721-38a9@webjas-vaa115.srv.aolmail.net> Many thanks to all who participated in AMSAT's second annual CW Activity Day on OSCAR, held in memory of Pat Gowen, G3IOR. We didn't ask for logs to be submitted, so we obviously have no figures, but activity seemed up significantly from last year. I worked two all-time new stations (new for me, that is) on FO-29, as well as some old friends. CU on CW in 2018, and of course in AMSAT's third annual CW Activity Day, same time next year. 73 Ray W2RS From kb0rfy at q.com Wed Jan 3 23:32:24 2018 From: kb0rfy at q.com (Dave L) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 17:32:24 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Message-ID: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. Fm birds are not a problem. SSB? I'm either to far ahead or behind. Any hints or advice would be appreciated. radio and ant are comp controled thanks dave kb0rfy From nickhart at usa.net Thu Jan 4 00:42:40 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2018 16:42:40 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? Message-ID: <047waDapO5264S01.1515026560@web01.cms.usa.net> Good afternoon, KK6ZLF in CM87. I am elmering a radio club at the local middle school, and we have a scheduled ARISS QSO coming up in March. A week from tomorrow, we're going to try to do a few QSOs on the available birds during the club meeting, 22 to 23:00 zulu. One of the passes is AO-7. I saw on the AMSAT site that it is working strictly on solar power. But, this should be a good daytime pass for us. Does anyone have any recent experience and advice for AO-7? Thanks, and 73! Nick KK6ZLF From wa4sca at gmail.com Thu Jan 4 01:30:13 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 19:30:13 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] WiSP Help File converted for use on Windows 10 Message-ID: <000001d384fb$91af2a30$b50d7e90$@gmail.com> Chris, There is a way to restore the functionality of old format help files. http://wa8lmf.net/miscinfo/RestoreWinhelp32.exe It adds old files, no longer supported, but does work up through WIN10, 32- and 64-bit. Works fine with WiSP. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <047waDapO5264S01.1515026560@web01.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: Nick, If you want some practice ahead of the ARISS event (really good idea!), it might be a more relevant experience to get a few of the FM birds under your belt. AO-85, AO-91, SO-50. Perhaps track the ISS via Packet (when/if they get the packet station back on the air), to get a feel for that system. Also watch for any ARISS events that you can listen in on (for example, the telebridge contacts through W6SRJ in Santa Rosa). Some of the ground station operations, either direct or telebridge, have been documented on YouTube. Also worth a watch. As for AO-7, first look at the status logs on Amsat.org (http://www.amsat.org/status/); seems like it's pretty much been in Mode B (70cm up, 2m down), but that can change as the satellite's eclipse schedule changes over the course of the year. Otherwise, it is definitely a daylight-only bird (as seen by the satellite, not necessarily here on the ground). Best of luck for your contact, Greg KO6TH Nick Hart wrote: > Good afternoon, > > KK6ZLF in CM87. I am elmering a radio club at the local middle school, and we > have a scheduled ARISS QSO coming up in March. > > A week from tomorrow, we're going to try to do a few QSOs on the available > birds during the club meeting, 22 to 23:00 zulu. One of the passes is AO-7. I > saw on the AMSAT site that it is working strictly on solar power. But, this > should be a good daytime pass for us. > > Does anyone have any recent experience and advice for AO-7? > > Thanks, and 73! > > Nick > > KK6ZLF > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Thu Jan 4 02:53:05 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 02:53:05 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ DM33/DM43, Friday (5 January 2018) Message-ID: Hi! After today's quick run north of Phoenix to the DM34/DM44 grid boundary earlier today, I'm going to do another grid boundary run on Friday (5 January). This time, much closer to home, on the DM33/DM43 grid boundary in Phoenix. This will be in the city park I used for many years as my "home QTH" for working satellites, and I have been up there recently a few times. This will be my first visit to this grid boundary in 2018. If I can get to the park early enough, I might start with the FalconSat-3 pass at just after 1700 UTC. Otherwise, there is a western SO-50 pass just before 1800 UTC that I'll start on, or another FalconSat-3 pass at 1846 UTC that I might start with. From there, I also see passes on AO-91, AO-7, and - if I stay at the park into the mid-afternoon - AO-85. FM, SSB, and packet - just like I did today. For purposes of the new AMSAT rover award, this will be an activation for DM33 only, as I live in DM43. For everything else, it will be two grids on offer for each QSO I make there. I will post updates during the day to my @WD9EWK Twitter account. Logs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World. If anyone would like to receive a QSL card for a QSO made at the DM33/DM43 line, please e-mail me directly with the QSO details. No need to send me a card or SASE first. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK From nickhart at usa.net Thu Jan 4 02:22:13 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2018 18:22:13 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? Message-ID: <977waDcVN7120S08.1515032533@web08.cms.usa.net> Absolutely agreed, Greg, We're just limited to what's passing over during the club meeting for the kids this month. We'll have one or two more club meetings between now and ARISS day. But, we adults who are working the event will have it dialed in by the time of the ARISS QSO. Thanks! Nick To: Nick Hart Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? Nick, If you want some practice ahead of the ARISS event (really good idea!), it might be a more relevant experience to get a few of the FM birds under your belt. AO-85, AO-91, SO-50. Perhaps track the ISS via Packet (when/if they get the packet station back on the air), to get a feel for that system. Also watch for any ARISS events that you can listen in on (for example, the telebridge contacts through W6SRJ in Santa Rosa). Some of the ground station operations, either direct or telebridge, have been documented on YouTube. Also worth a watch. As for AO-7, first look at the status logs on Amsat.org (http://www.amsat.org/status/); seems like it's pretty much been in Mode B (70cm up, 2m down), but that can change as the satellite's eclipse schedule changes over the course of the year. Otherwise, it is definitely a daylight-only bird (as seen by the satellite, not necessarily here on the ground). Best of luck for your contact, Greg KO6TH Nick Hart wrote: > Good afternoon, > > KK6ZLF in CM87. I am elmering a radio club at the local middle school, and we > have a scheduled ARISS QSO coming up in March. > > A week from tomorrow, we're going to try to do a few QSOs on the available > birds during the club meeting, 22 to 23:00 zulu. One of the passes is AO-7. I > saw on the AMSAT site that it is working strictly on solar power. But, this > should be a good daytime pass for us. > > Does anyone have any recent experience and advice for AO-7? > > Thanks, and 73! > > Nick > > KK6ZLF > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jan 4 03:08:50 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 22:08:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? In-Reply-To: <977waDcVN7120S08.1515032533@web08.cms.usa.net> References: <977waDcVN7120S08.1515032533@web08.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: AO-7 has generally been stable for the past several months. In the Northern Hemisphere spring and summer months, it has been quite unstable, easily switching out of Mode B when signals are present in the passband. This is likely due to the sun's angle on the solar panels. AO-7 has no panels on the "top" or "bottom" of the satellite, and with AO-7's current orbit, the sun is not in an ideal position to illuminate the satellite's solar panels during the Northern Hemisphere summer. For a demo next week, AO-7 has an excellent shot of being active in Mode B. Next month, or in March, the chances may be less. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Nick Hart wrote: > Absolutely agreed, Greg, > > We're just limited to what's passing over during the club meeting for the > kids > this month. We'll have one or two more club meetings between now and ARISS > day. But, we adults who are working the event will have it dialed in by > the > time of the ARISS QSO. > > Thanks! > > Nick > > To: Nick Hart Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? > > Nick, > > If you want some practice ahead of the ARISS event (really good idea!), > it might be a more relevant experience to get a few of the FM birds > under your belt. AO-85, AO-91, SO-50. Perhaps track the ISS via Packet > (when/if they get the packet station back on the air), to get a feel for > that system. Also watch for any ARISS events that you can listen in on > (for example, the telebridge contacts through W6SRJ in Santa Rosa). > > Some of the ground station operations, either direct or telebridge, have > been documented on YouTube. Also worth a watch. > > As for AO-7, first look at the status logs on Amsat.org > (http://www.amsat.org/status/); seems like it's pretty much been in Mode > B (70cm up, 2m down), but that can change as the satellite's eclipse > schedule changes over the course of the year. Otherwise, it is > definitely a daylight-only bird (as seen by the satellite, not > necessarily here on the ground). > > Best of luck for your contact, > > Greg KO6TH > > > Nick Hart wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > > KK6ZLF in CM87. I am elmering a radio club at the local middle school, > and > we > > have a scheduled ARISS QSO coming up in March. > > > > A week from tomorrow, we're going to try to do a few QSOs on the > available > > birds during the club meeting, 22 to 23:00 zulu. One of the passes is > AO-7. > I > > saw on the AMSAT site that it is working strictly on solar power. But, > this > > should be a good daytime pass for us. > > > > Does anyone have any recent experience and advice for AO-7? > > > > Thanks, and 73! > > > > Nick > > > > KK6ZLF > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From nickhart at usa.net Thu Jan 4 03:24:50 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2018 19:24:50 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? Message-ID: <293waDDXY3456S04.1515036290@web04.cms.usa.net> Great input, Paul! Thank you, and 73! Nick KK6ZLF ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 03 Jan 2018 07:09:51 PM PST From: Paul Stoetzer To: Nick Hart Cc: Greg D , amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? AO-7 has generally been stable for the past several months. In the Northern Hemisphere spring and summer months, it has been quite unstable, easily switching out of Mode B when signals are present in the passband. This is likely due to the sun's angle on the solar panels. AO-7 has no panels on the "top" or "bottom" of the satellite, and with AO-7's current orbit, the sun is not in an ideal position to illuminate the satellite's solar panels during the Northern Hemisphere summer. For a demo next week, AO-7 has an excellent shot of being active in Mode B. Next month, or in March, the chances may be less. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Nick Hart wrote: > Absolutely agreed, Greg, > > We're just limited to what's passing over during the club meeting for the > kids > this month. We'll have one or two more club meetings between now and ARISS > day. But, we adults who are working the event will have it dialed in by > the > time of the ARISS QSO. > > Thanks! > > Nick > > To: Nick Hart Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? > > Nick, > > If you want some practice ahead of the ARISS event (really good idea!), > it might be a more relevant experience to get a few of the FM birds > under your belt. AO-85, AO-91, SO-50. Perhaps track the ISS via Packet > (when/if they get the packet station back on the air), to get a feel for > that system. Also watch for any ARISS events that you can listen in on > (for example, the telebridge contacts through W6SRJ in Santa Rosa). > > Some of the ground station operations, either direct or telebridge, have > been documented on YouTube. Also worth a watch. > > As for AO-7, first look at the status logs on Amsat.org > (http://www.amsat.org/status/); seems like it's pretty much been in Mode > B (70cm up, 2m down), but that can change as the satellite's eclipse > schedule changes over the course of the year. Otherwise, it is > definitely a daylight-only bird (as seen by the satellite, not > necessarily here on the ground). > > Best of luck for your contact, > > Greg KO6TH > > > Nick Hart wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > > KK6ZLF in CM87. I am elmering a radio club at the local middle school, > and > we > > have a scheduled ARISS QSO coming up in March. > > > > A week from tomorrow, we're going to try to do a few QSOs on the > available > > birds during the club meeting, 22 to 23:00 zulu. One of the passes is > AO-7. > I > > saw on the AMSAT site that it is working strictly on solar power. But, > this > > should be a good daytime pass for us. > > > > Does anyone have any recent experience and advice for AO-7? > > > > Thanks, and 73! > > > > Nick > > > > KK6ZLF > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wa7eth at frontier.com Thu Jan 4 03:41:44 2018 From: wa7eth at frontier.com (wa7eth at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 03:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91 contacts for KC7QR References: <613644795.95601.1515037304503.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <613644795.95601.1515037304503@mail.yahoo.com> I told a friend of mine, Bob, KC7QR about AO-91 and he gave it a try.? He is in Jerome, Idaho and he attempted to make a couple of contacts today, Wednesday, Jan 3rd at approx 2109Z.? He said someone from Arizona tried to contact him as well as another station in Illinois.? If those stations could let me know, I will pass it along to Bob.? I am a member of the Magic Valley Amateur Radio Club in Twin Falls, Idaho even though I am in Washington.? I am trying to generate some activity in the Idaho area for some grid squares and it looks like the seed I planted is growing.? Thanks for anyone who responds.? 73'...Ed? WA7ETH? AMSAT 16226 From AJ9N at aol.com Thu Jan 4 08:59:16 2018 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 03:59:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC Message-ID: <617081.67a01dd1.477f46e4@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Higher National School of Computer Science and Systems Analysis (ENSIAS), Rabat, Morocco, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact was successful: Wed 2018-01-03 13:52:42 UTC 33 deg (***) Watch for live stream at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVrHxxZ5pCvF-6I2O1-wgqQ/live **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 127 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1201. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1150. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From john at amber.org.uk Thu Jan 4 10:10:37 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 10:10:37 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> Message-ID: <04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk> Hi Dave, When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually mean your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 has always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using linears (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the case you can adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally calculated based on your locator and the Keplerian data you can download (and should be updating every time you open up the app). If, however, you mean your offset (ie finding your own downlink) then this is always a bit variable for me, but usually pretty close. SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust them (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the top right of the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it keeps the same offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different on different passes, or you may find it's exact every time, but that's part of the fun with linears - finding yourself first! Hope that helps. 73, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. Any hints or advice would be appreciated. radio and ant are comp controled thanks dave kb0rfy _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Thu Jan 4 14:38:10 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 15:38:10 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Problem using USB-to-Serial adapters with Windows 10 Laptop. Message-ID: <18d1a0f7-438a-d223-f28d-049d97989e0d@t-online.de> Hello all, I want to use 2 FTDI USB-to-Serial converters (US232R and FT4232H) with my? Laptop Acer Aspire with 64-bit Windows 10, Home edition. But the installation? of the (latest) FTDI drivers fails. I tried automaic installaion via the Windows Device Manager and manual installation by running the .inf file. With both methodes? I get the same? Windows error message, saying that Windows found drivers for the device, but an error occured during installation, see screenshot. ? When I check the hardware for problems Windows says that there are no drivers installed for the US232R/ FT-4232H. With a Toshiba Laptop and a Cativa desktop PC, both also with 64-bit Windows 10 Home, the installation worked flawlessly and the adapter generates the virtual COM ports I googled for a solution but without success. There are more users who report the same error message with other USB-devices. There was a suggestion for Windows 7 to delete a file named InfCache.1. I can't test that, however, because? Windows 10 doesn't provide that file, the content has been moved to the registry.? The FTDI support suggested to first uninstall the drivers, but the problem remains. Has anyone else encountered the same problem and is there a solution? Many thanks for any support 73s, Erich, DK1TB From kb2m at arrl.net Thu Jan 4 14:43:29 2018 From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 09:43:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] WiSP Help File converted for use on Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <000001d384fb$91af2a30$b50d7e90$@gmail.com> References: <000001d384fb$91af2a30$b50d7e90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201d3856a$632e6990$298b3cb0$@net> Alan. I hope I'm missing something, but I tried to run this and I get the same link to the 'error opening help in windows' error. I went through the original messages and find no reference to 64 bit win10. All I have up here is win10 64 bit systems, so I won't be able to try a win7 install until I get back to Florida. My question is, does anyone have this working with 64 bit WIN10? http://www.komeil.com/blog/windows-help-program-winhelp-winhlp32-exe 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:30 PM To: 'Chris Thompson'; AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WiSP Help File converted for use on Windows 10 Chris, There is a way to restore the functionality of old format help files. http://wa8lmf.net/miscinfo/RestoreWinhelp32.exe It adds old files, no longer supported, but does work up through WIN10, 32- and 64-bit. Works fine with WiSP. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <4fe5bd24-fa48-c1c7-015e-5235b0091252@kourou.de> Message-ID: Woot! On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Peter G?lzow wrote: > > > Es'hail-2 reached a major milestone in spacecraft completion, with > successful completion of critical acoustic and vibration tests. > > ??? ????? ????-2 ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ?? ????? ???????? ????? > ??????? ????? > > #Eshailsat #Spacecraft #Satellite #Communication #Broadcast #Operator > #Milestone #Qatar #MiddleEast #Africa > > Source: > https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1734202026619631&id= > 309354982437683 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From jim at k6ccc.org Thu Jan 4 17:46:14 2018 From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 09:46:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> <04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: <1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com> Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. Jim K6CCC -----Original Message----- From: "John" Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Hi Dave, When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually mean your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 has always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using linears (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the case you can adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally calculated based on your locator and the Keplerian data you can download (and should be updating every time you open up the app). If, however, you mean your offset (ie finding your own downlink) then this is always a bit variable for me, but usually pretty close. SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust them (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the top right of the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it keeps the same offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different on different passes, or you may find it's exact every time, but that's part of the fun with linears - finding yourself first! Hope that helps. 73, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. Any hints or advice would be appreciated. radio and ant are comp controled thanks dave kb0rfy _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kx9x at yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 17:51:00 2018 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> <04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk> <1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: <1341393967.462132.1515088260609@mail.yahoo.com> Indeed. I manually tune all the time. No interfaces to deal with and never a problem finding my downlink. Very much worth a try. Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 12:47:14 PM EST, jim at k6ccc.org wrote: Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune.? It does work.? In fact I strongly preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. Jim K6CCC -----Original Message----- From: "John" Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Hi Dave, When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually mean your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 has always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using linears (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the case you can adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally calculated based on your locator and the Keplerian data you can download (and should be updating every time you open up the app). If, however, you mean your offset (ie finding your own downlink) then this is always a bit variable for me, but usually pretty close. SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust them (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the top right of the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it keeps the same offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different on different passes, or you may find it's exact every time, but that's part of the fun with linears - finding yourself first! Hope that helps. 73, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. Any hints or advice would be appreciated. radio and ant are comp controled thanks dave kb0rfy _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john at amber.org.uk Thu Jan 4 17:57:16 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:57:16 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> <04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk> <1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: <055501d38585$757c47a0$6074d6e0$@amber.org.uk> Hey now, don't shoot the messenger! The vast majority of my AMSAT demonstrations are done with groups of scouts of various ages, and the last thing they need to see is me focussing more on the radio than making sure they understand what's going on! If I've got a piece of software that can correct for doppler shift for me, and it can manage pointing my antennas in the right direction, then it leaves my focus available for the actual operating, and the explanations to the young people who could well be the next generation of amateur radio and AMSAT enthusiasts ;) I think that's a far better use of my resources than sitting there with my back to the people I'm supposed to be introducing to the hobby, and focussing on turning dials and pushing rotator controller buttons... John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of jim at k6ccc.org Sent: 04 January 2018 17:46 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. Jim K6CCC -----Original Message----- From: "John" Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Hi Dave, When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually mean your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 has always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using linears (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the case you can adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally calculated based on your locator and the Keplerian data you can download (and should be updating every time you open up the app). If, however, you mean your offset (ie finding your own downlink) then this is always a bit variable for me, but usually pretty close. SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust them (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the top right of the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it keeps the same offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different on different passes, or you may find it's exact every time, but that's part of the fun with linears - finding yourself first! Hope that helps. 73, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. Any hints or advice would be appreciated. radio and ant are comp controled thanks dave kb0rfy _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nickhart at usa.net Thu Jan 4 19:15:41 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 11:15:41 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <055501d38585$757c47a0$6074d6e0$@amber.org.uk> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> <04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk> <1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com> <055501d38585$757c47a0$6074d6e0$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: <90F31CAB-B52D-460B-9AFA-C5A2D431378C@usa.net> I'm glad you mentioned scouts, John. I counsel for the radio merit badge for our local scouts, and Elmer our local middle school's radio club. In the club last month, we completed tape measure yagis. And, for this month's radio club meeting, I was planning on having the kids working a couple of birds passing during the meeting time. I figured that with 10 kids, we could have them in teams for tracking, tuning, recording and operating under my supervision. I thought it would be good for them to try to do everything manually once for two reasons. One is to show that's it's doable on a minimum budget by a teenager. And, the other is so they'll have an appreciation of everything our more automated rig will do during our ARISS QSO in March. From your comments, I'm rethinking that strategy a bit. Do you think that's too much? 73! Nick > On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:57 AM, John wrote: > > Hey now, don't shoot the messenger! The vast majority of my AMSAT > demonstrations are done with groups of scouts of various ages, and the last > thing they need to see is me focussing more on the radio than making sure > they understand what's going on! > > If I've got a piece of software that can correct for doppler shift for me, > and it can manage pointing my antennas in the right direction, then it > leaves my focus available for the actual operating, and the explanations to > the young people who could well be the next generation of amateur radio and > AMSAT enthusiasts ;) I think that's a far better use of my resources than > sitting there with my back to the people I'm supposed to be introducing to > the hobby, and focussing on turning dials and pushing rotator controller > buttons... > > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of > jim at k6ccc.org > Sent: 04 January 2018 17:46 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > > > Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly > preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. > > Jim > K6CCC > > -----Original Message----- > From: "John" > Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 > To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > > > Hi Dave, > > When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually mean > your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? > > If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 has > always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using linears > (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the case you can > adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally calculated based on your > locator and the Keplerian data you can download (and should be updating > every time you open up the app). If, however, you mean your offset (ie > finding your own downlink) then this is always a bit variable for me, but > usually pretty close. > > SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust them > (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the top right of > the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it keeps the same > offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different on different passes, > or you may find it's exact every time, but that's part of the fun with > linears - finding yourself first! > > Hope that helps. > > 73, > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L > Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. > > Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. > > Any hints or advice would be appreciated. > > radio and ant are comp controled > > thanks > > dave > > kb0rfy > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Jan 4 19:27:44 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 14:27:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <90F31CAB-B52D-460B-9AFA-C5A2D431378C@usa.net> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> <04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk> <1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com> <055501d38585$757c47a0$6074d6e0$@amber.org.uk> <90F31CAB-B52D-460B-9AFA-C5A2D431378C@usa.net> Message-ID: Nobody asked me but I would just start with just listening and gradually adding more components to the mix. Listen to AO-91 on at least one pass because the downlink doesn't require much doppler tuning if at all, then try SO-50 and learn doppler tuning, add audio recording on another pass, add uplink capability towards the end. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Nick Hart wrote: > I'm glad you mentioned scouts, John. > > I counsel for the radio merit badge for our local scouts, and Elmer our local middle school's radio club. In the club last month, we completed tape measure yagis. And, for this month's radio club meeting, I was planning on having the kids working a couple of birds passing during the meeting time. > > I figured that with 10 kids, we could have them in teams for tracking, tuning, recording and operating under my supervision. I thought it would be good for them to try to do everything manually once for two reasons. One is to show that's it's doable on a minimum budget by a teenager. And, the other is so they'll have an appreciation of everything our more automated rig will do during our ARISS QSO in March. > > From your comments, I'm rethinking that strategy a bit. Do you think that's too much? > > 73! > > Nick > >> On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:57 AM, John wrote: >> >> Hey now, don't shoot the messenger! The vast majority of my AMSAT >> demonstrations are done with groups of scouts of various ages, and the last >> thing they need to see is me focussing more on the radio than making sure >> they understand what's going on! >> >> If I've got a piece of software that can correct for doppler shift for me, >> and it can manage pointing my antennas in the right direction, then it >> leaves my focus available for the actual operating, and the explanations to >> the young people who could well be the next generation of amateur radio and >> AMSAT enthusiasts ;) I think that's a far better use of my resources than >> sitting there with my back to the people I'm supposed to be introducing to >> the hobby, and focussing on turning dials and pushing rotator controller >> buttons... >> >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of >> jim at k6ccc.org >> Sent: 04 January 2018 17:46 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> >> >> Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly >> preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. >> >> Jim >> K6CCC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "John" >> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 >> To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually mean >> your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? >> >> If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 has >> always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using linears >> (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the case you can >> adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally calculated based on your >> locator and the Keplerian data you can download (and should be updating >> every time you open up the app). If, however, you mean your offset (ie >> finding your own downlink) then this is always a bit variable for me, but >> usually pretty close. >> >> SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust them >> (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the top right of >> the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it keeps the same >> offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different on different passes, >> or you may find it's exact every time, but that's part of the fun with >> linears - finding yourself first! >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> 73, >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L >> Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. >> >> Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. >> >> Any hints or advice would be appreciated. >> >> radio and ant are comp controled >> >> thanks >> >> dave >> >> kb0rfy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john at amber.org.uk Thu Jan 4 19:46:20 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 19:46:20 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <90F31CAB-B52D-460B-9AFA-C5A2D431378C@usa.net> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> <04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk> <1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com> <055501d38585$757c47a0$6074d6e0$@amber.org.uk> <90F31CAB-B52D-460B-9AFA-C5A2D431378C@usa.net> Message-ID: <056201d38594$b22ca280$1685e780$@amber.org.uk> Hi Nick, It all depends on the knowledge and skillset of the scouts in question. My last significant AMSAT demo was done during JOTA, and at that point we had between 100 and 150 young people come through the shack doors throughout the weekend. We didn't have a huge amount of time to explain everything or go really interactive with the control or tracking, and to be honest most of them were amazed enough that they could hear voices coming back from space, so when we listened in to one of the Italian ARISS contacts, they were even more thrilled! My trusty FT-847, SatPC32, ERC-M interface and Kenpro KR5600 did the job nicely, we made quite a few QSOs, and we got to listen to a full ISS pass - something the 80 odd people who poured into the shack when it started will likely not forget for a long time yet. If your group of scouts is at a level where they've got the understanding, accuracy and, most importantly, the concentration to follow the full pass, then there's no reason not to try it manually with them. If, however, they're less experienced/interested/accurate, then you might find that it's hard to keep them all doing their respective jobs at once. Remember that there's only one of you trying to manage four different teams at that point, so how far you can stretch yourself is another consideration. Especially if your primary focus is on the actual operation of the QSO. If you want to demonstrate that it can be done on a budget, get them to bring those tape-measure yagis they built with them. Hook up a couple of handhelds or FT817s to them, and demonstrate an FM bird (AO-91, SO-50, or similar?) for the simplest approach. Then step up the game a bit, adding a little more challenge. Even if you just listen during the first pass or two, you'll see the thrill they'll get from knowing it's working with the yagis they built themselves at the last club meeting, and that's where you can gauge whether they are ready to step it up. If you want to add a bit more 'competition' to it, then have them run the yagis and handhelds alongside a full auto-tracking station and see if they can 'match' it (or even 'beat' it). Never underestimate the power of some healthy competition - give 4 teams identical sets of gear, show them where to point, and you'll find that they're competing to see who can hear the satellite the loudest in no time. If, however, you want some successful QSOs, then it's worth having a back-up plan that you can roll out if you aren't getting success. One of the biggest things I've found in the past with demonstrations is that whilst the latest and greatest kit isn't necessary, having a decent setup that's hassle-free and 'just works' can bail you out of a huge hole. We found the same thing with HF a few years ago - whilst you can theoretically make that QSO to the opposite side of the planet on 1W with a wet piece of string up a tree in the right conditions, it's a lot easier to put on a successful demonstration with an 8 element HF beam at 80 feet on a tower, plenty of TX power and a radio with an excellent receiver. And very often the quality is what will determine whether or not you keep the interest. Making them work for that contact is all well and good, but sometimes instant gratification is better for the uninitiated or more casual folk. There's no hard and fast formula for what will or won't work. You gotta read your audience, respond to it, and work from there. If you can see they're getting more and more into it, then teach them a bit more, and add to the level of work they have to do to make the pass happen. As a wise scouter once said to me, many years ago (when talking about campfire songs, but the principle applies to this too): If you're drilling for oil, and you don't strike it within the first couple of minutes... stop boring! In short (or long, as it seems to have become)... See what works for you, but plan to start simple and work upwards! You know your young people better than I do, so assess their capabilities and challenge them, whilst staying within those capabilities. 73, and a firm left handshake, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: Nick Hart [mailto:nickhart at usa.net] Sent: 04 January 2018 19:16 To: John Cc: jim at k6ccc.org; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift I'm glad you mentioned scouts, John. I counsel for the radio merit badge for our local scouts, and Elmer our local middle school's radio club. In the club last month, we completed tape measure yagis. And, for this month's radio club meeting, I was planning on having the kids working a couple of birds passing during the meeting time. I figured that with 10 kids, we could have them in teams for tracking, tuning, recording and operating under my supervision. I thought it would be good for them to try to do everything manually once for two reasons. One is to show that's it's doable on a minimum budget by a teenager. And, the other is so they'll have an appreciation of everything our more automated rig will do during our ARISS QSO in March. >From your comments, I'm rethinking that strategy a bit. Do you think that's too much? 73! Nick > On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:57 AM, John wrote: > > Hey now, don't shoot the messenger! The vast majority of my AMSAT > demonstrations are done with groups of scouts of various ages, and the > last thing they need to see is me focussing more on the radio than > making sure they understand what's going on! > > If I've got a piece of software that can correct for doppler shift for > me, and it can manage pointing my antennas in the right direction, > then it leaves my focus available for the actual operating, and the > explanations to the young people who could well be the next generation > of amateur radio and AMSAT enthusiasts ;) I think that's a far better > use of my resources than sitting there with my back to the people I'm > supposed to be introducing to the hobby, and focussing on turning > dials and pushing rotator controller buttons... > > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of > jim at k6ccc.org > Sent: 04 January 2018 17:46 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > > > Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly > preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. > > Jim > K6CCC > > -----Original Message----- > From: "John" > Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 > To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > > > Hi Dave, > > When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually > mean your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? > > If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 > has always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using > linears (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the > case you can adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally > calculated based on your locator and the Keplerian data you can > download (and should be updating every time you open up the app). If, > however, you mean your offset (ie finding your own downlink) then this > is always a bit variable for me, but usually pretty close. > > SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust > them (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the > top right of the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it > keeps the same offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different > on different passes, or you may find it's exact every time, but that's > part of the fun with linears - finding yourself first! > > Hope that helps. > > 73, > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L > Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. > > Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. > > Any hints or advice would be appreciated. > > radio and ant are comp controled > > thanks > > dave > > kb0rfy > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nickhart at usa.net Thu Jan 4 20:42:37 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:42:37 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Message-ID: <058waDupl9600S04.1515098557@web04.cms.usa.net> Good points all, John. The challenge is that the day of this month's club meeting, which satellites are passing over aren't ideal. But, the sequence you suggest absolutely makes sense otherwise. We'll do our best wish the birds we get. 73! Nick ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:27:56 AM PST From: John Brier To: Nick Hart Cc: John , AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Nobody asked me but I would just start with just listening and gradually adding more components to the mix. Listen to AO-91 on at least one pass because the downlink doesn't require much doppler tuning if at all, then try SO-50 and learn doppler tuning, add audio recording on another pass, add uplink capability towards the end. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Nick Hart wrote: > I'm glad you mentioned scouts, John. > > I counsel for the radio merit badge for our local scouts, and Elmer our local middle school's radio club. In the club last month, we completed tape measure yagis. And, for this month's radio club meeting, I was planning on having the kids working a couple of birds passing during the meeting time. > > I figured that with 10 kids, we could have them in teams for tracking, tuning, recording and operating under my supervision. I thought it would be good for them to try to do everything manually once for two reasons. One is to show that's it's doable on a minimum budget by a teenager. And, the other is so they'll have an appreciation of everything our more automated rig will do during our ARISS QSO in March. > > From your comments, I'm rethinking that strategy a bit. Do you think that's too much? > > 73! > > Nick > >> On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:57 AM, John wrote: >> >> Hey now, don't shoot the messenger! The vast majority of my AMSAT >> demonstrations are done with groups of scouts of various ages, and the last >> thing they need to see is me focussing more on the radio than making sure >> they understand what's going on! >> >> If I've got a piece of software that can correct for doppler shift for me, >> and it can manage pointing my antennas in the right direction, then it >> leaves my focus available for the actual operating, and the explanations to >> the young people who could well be the next generation of amateur radio and >> AMSAT enthusiasts ;) I think that's a far better use of my resources than >> sitting there with my back to the people I'm supposed to be introducing to >> the hobby, and focussing on turning dials and pushing rotator controller >> buttons... >> >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of >> jim at k6ccc.org >> Sent: 04 January 2018 17:46 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> >> >> Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly >> preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. >> >> Jim >> K6CCC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "John" >> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 >> To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually mean >> your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? >> >> If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 has >> always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using linears >> (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the case you can >> adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally calculated based on your >> locator and the Keplerian data you can download (and should be updating >> every time you open up the app). If, however, you mean your offset (ie >> finding your own downlink) then this is always a bit variable for me, but >> usually pretty close. >> >> SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust them >> (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the top right of >> the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it keeps the same >> offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different on different passes, >> or you may find it's exact every time, but that's part of the fun with >> linears - finding yourself first! >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> 73, >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L >> Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. >> >> Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. >> >> Any hints or advice would be appreciated. >> >> radio and ant are comp controled >> >> thanks >> >> dave >> >> kb0rfy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all >> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nickhart at usa.net Thu Jan 4 20:46:27 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:46:27 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Message-ID: <865waDutb3760S03.1515098787@web03.cms.usa.net> How exciting it must have been to get a great demo with such a large group. Excellent advice, John. I like the competition idea very much, which is why I had them with 2 separate rigs. A long time ago, when I used to teach Sunday school, we used a guideline that a kid's attention span is their age in minutes. I've got 10 to 14 year olds, so we'll keep it moving from activity to activity that they can handle. (My own theory is that after a certain age, ones attention span starts working its way back down.) ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:46:38 AM PST From: "John" To: "'Nick Hart'" Cc: Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Hi Nick, It all depends on the knowledge and skillset of the scouts in question. My last significant AMSAT demo was done during JOTA, and at that point we had between 100 and 150 young people come through the shack doors throughout the weekend. We didn't have a huge amount of time to explain everything or go really interactive with the control or tracking, and to be honest most of them were amazed enough that they could hear voices coming back from space, so when we listened in to one of the Italian ARISS contacts, they were even more thrilled! My trusty FT-847, SatPC32, ERC-M interface and Kenpro KR5600 did the job nicely, we made quite a few QSOs, and we got to listen to a full ISS pass - something the 80 odd people who poured into the shack when it started will likely not forget for a long time yet. If your group of scouts is at a level where they've got the understanding, accuracy and, most importantly, the concentration to follow the full pass, then there's no reason not to try it manually with them. If, however, they're less experienced/interested/accurate, then you might find that it's hard to keep them all doing their respective jobs at once. Remember that there's only one of you trying to manage four different teams at that point, so how far you can stretch yourself is another consideration. Especially if your primary focus is on the actual operation of the QSO. If you want to demonstrate that it can be done on a budget, get them to bring those tape-measure yagis they built with them. Hook up a couple of handhelds or FT817s to them, and demonstrate an FM bird (AO-91, SO-50, or similar?) for the simplest approach. Then step up the game a bit, adding a little more challenge. Even if you just listen during the first pass or two, you'll see the thrill they'll get from knowing it's working with the yagis they built themselves at the last club meeting, and that's where you can gauge whether they are ready to step it up. If you want to add a bit more 'competition' to it, then have them run the yagis and handhelds alongside a full auto-tracking station and see if they can 'match' it (or even 'beat' it). Never underestimate the power of some healthy competition - give 4 teams identical sets of gear, show them where to point, and you'll find that they're competing to see who can hear the satellite the loudest in no time. If, however, you want some successful QSOs, then it's worth having a back-up plan that you can roll out if you aren't getting success. One of the biggest things I've found in the past with demonstrations is that whilst the latest and greatest kit isn't necessary, having a decent setup that's hassle-free and 'just works' can bail you out of a huge hole. We found the same thing with HF a few years ago - whilst you can theoretically make that QSO to the opposite side of the planet on 1W with a wet piece of string up a tree in the right conditions, it's a lot easier to put on a successful demonstration with an 8 element HF beam at 80 feet on a tower, plenty of TX power and a radio with an excellent receiver. And very often the quality is what will determine whether or not you keep the interest. Making them work for that contact is all well and good, but sometimes instant gratification is better for the uninitiated or more casual folk. There's no hard and fast formula for what will or won't work. You gotta read your audience, respond to it, and work from there. If you can see they're getting more and more into it, then teach them a bit more, and add to the level of work they have to do to make the pass happen. As a wise scouter once said to me, many years ago (when talking about campfire songs, but the principle applies to this too): If you're drilling for oil, and you don't strike it within the first couple of minutes... stop boring! In short (or long, as it seems to have become)... See what works for you, but plan to start simple and work upwards! You know your young people better than I do, so assess their capabilities and challenge them, whilst staying within those capabilities. 73, and a firm left handshake, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: Nick Hart [mailto:nickhart at usa.net] Sent: 04 January 2018 19:16 To: John Cc: jim at k6ccc.org; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift I'm glad you mentioned scouts, John. I counsel for the radio merit badge for our local scouts, and Elmer our local middle school's radio club. In the club last month, we completed tape measure yagis. And, for this month's radio club meeting, I was planning on having the kids working a couple of birds passing during the meeting time. I figured that with 10 kids, we could have them in teams for tracking, tuning, recording and operating under my supervision. I thought it would be good for them to try to do everything manually once for two reasons. One is to show that's it's doable on a minimum budget by a teenager. And, the other is so they'll have an appreciation of everything our more automated rig will do during our ARISS QSO in March. From your comments, I'm rethinking that strategy a bit. Do you think that's too much? 73! Nick > On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:57 AM, John wrote: > > Hey now, don't shoot the messenger! The vast majority of my AMSAT > demonstrations are done with groups of scouts of various ages, and the > last thing they need to see is me focussing more on the radio than > making sure they understand what's going on! > > If I've got a piece of software that can correct for doppler shift for > me, and it can manage pointing my antennas in the right direction, > then it leaves my focus available for the actual operating, and the > explanations to the young people who could well be the next generation > of amateur radio and AMSAT enthusiasts ;) I think that's a far better > use of my resources than sitting there with my back to the people I'm > supposed to be introducing to the hobby, and focussing on turning > dials and pushing rotator controller buttons... > > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of > jim at k6ccc.org > Sent: 04 January 2018 17:46 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > > > Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly > preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. > > Jim > K6CCC > > -----Original Message----- > From: "John" > Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 > To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > > > Hi Dave, > > When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually > mean your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? > > If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 > has always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using > linears (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the > case you can adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally > calculated based on your locator and the Keplerian data you can > download (and should be updating every time you open up the app). If, > however, you mean your offset (ie finding your own downlink) then this > is always a bit variable for me, but usually pretty close. > > SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust > them (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the > top right of the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it > keeps the same offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different > on different passes, or you may find it's exact every time, but that's > part of the fun with linears - finding yourself first! > > Hope that helps. > > 73, > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L > Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. > > Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. > > Any hints or advice would be appreciated. > > radio and ant are comp controled > > thanks > > dave > > kb0rfy > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc2 at gmail.com Thu Jan 4 21:20:14 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 15:20:14 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Kenwood TS2000 HF/VHF/UHF/satellite radio Message-ID: I have for sale a Kenwood TS2000 HF/VHF/UHF satellite transceiver. Does 100 watts on HF, 6m and 2m, and 50 watts on 70cm. Has IF DSP for noise reduction and IF filtering, also has TCXO installed, and CW memory keyer. The internal TNC in this radio doesn't work so you cannot use it for remote control by Sky Command. Also, the radio took a little tumble a couple of months ago and one corner of the bezel got banged up a little, and a couple of the buttons got pushed in a little into the bezel but they still do operate. The noise reduction button is pushed in the furthest and I programmed the PF key to control noise reduction. I am including a hand mic with 4 programmable buttons on it so you can use it to control some of these other functions. The TS2000 has the DRU-3A voice recorder installed, which is a $119 value. It also comes with a power cord, original box, and manual. I am asking $550 for it plus any shipping that is needed. 73 John AF5CC From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Thu Jan 4 21:24:37 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:24:37 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <865waDutb3760S03.1515098787@web03.cms.usa.net> References: <865waDutb3760S03.1515098787@web03.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <9f503194-cf3a-8584-0aac-e11864e37b29@gmail.com> Following the "contest" approach, perhaps set up teams of a couple of kids, each with a radio and hand-held beam, and see who can copy the most number of call signs. As preparation, you'd need to explain a whole lot of stuff - what a bandpass is, what the track of the bird is through the sky, doppler shift, etc, etc, etc. Then they can put it to practice. A goal of loudest, or such, is kind of subjective; how would you really measure it? Number of call signs, I think, would be simple and cause nearly all of the challenges we face in operating to come into play, without being so horrible that copying one call wouldn't be beyond reach. So everyone would have some success and feeling of accomplishment, but still have a competition and a winner. Just a thought, Greg KO6TH Nick Hart wrote: > How exciting it must have been to get a great demo with such a large group. > > Excellent advice, John. I like the competition idea very much, which is why I > had them with 2 separate rigs. > > A long time ago, when I used to teach Sunday school, we used a guideline that > a kid's attention span is their age in minutes. I've got 10 to 14 year olds, > so we'll keep it moving from activity to activity that they can handle. > > (My own theory is that after a certain age, ones attention span starts working > its way back down.) > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:46:38 AM PST > From: "John" > To: "'Nick Hart'" Cc: > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > Hi Nick, > > It all depends on the knowledge and skillset of the scouts in question. My > last significant AMSAT demo was done during JOTA, and at that point we had > between 100 and 150 young people come through the shack doors throughout the > weekend. We didn't have a huge amount of time to explain everything or go > really interactive with the control or tracking, and to be honest most of > them were amazed enough that they could hear voices coming back from space, > so when we listened in to one of the Italian ARISS contacts, they were even > more thrilled! My trusty FT-847, SatPC32, ERC-M interface and Kenpro KR5600 > did the job nicely, we made quite a few QSOs, and we got to listen to a full > ISS pass - something the 80 odd people who poured into the shack when it > started will likely not forget for a long time yet. > > If your group of scouts is at a level where they've got the understanding, > accuracy and, most importantly, the concentration to follow the full pass, > then there's no reason not to try it manually with them. If, however, > they're less experienced/interested/accurate, then you might find that it's > hard to keep them all doing their respective jobs at once. Remember that > there's only one of you trying to manage four different teams at that point, > so how far you can stretch yourself is another consideration. Especially if > your primary focus is on the actual operation of the QSO. > > If you want to demonstrate that it can be done on a budget, get them to > bring those tape-measure yagis they built with them. Hook up a couple of > handhelds or FT817s to them, and demonstrate an FM bird (AO-91, SO-50, or > similar?) for the simplest approach. Then step up the game a bit, adding a > little more challenge. Even if you just listen during the first pass or two, > you'll see the thrill they'll get from knowing it's working with the yagis > they built themselves at the last club meeting, and that's where you can > gauge whether they are ready to step it up. If you want to add a bit more > 'competition' to it, then have them run the yagis and handhelds alongside a > full auto-tracking station and see if they can 'match' it (or even 'beat' > it). Never underestimate the power of some healthy competition - give 4 > teams identical sets of gear, show them where to point, and you'll find that > they're competing to see who can hear the satellite the loudest in no time. > If, however, you want some successful QSOs, then it's worth having a back-up > plan that you can roll out if you aren't getting success. > > One of the biggest things I've found in the past with demonstrations is that > whilst the latest and greatest kit isn't necessary, having a decent setup > that's hassle-free and 'just works' can bail you out of a huge hole. We > found the same thing with HF a few years ago - whilst you can theoretically > make that QSO to the opposite side of the planet on 1W with a wet piece of > string up a tree in the right conditions, it's a lot easier to put on a > successful demonstration with an 8 element HF beam at 80 feet on a tower, > plenty of TX power and a radio with an excellent receiver. And very often > the quality is what will determine whether or not you keep the interest. > Making them work for that contact is all well and good, but sometimes > instant gratification is better for the uninitiated or more casual folk. > > There's no hard and fast formula for what will or won't work. You gotta read > your audience, respond to it, and work from there. If you can see they're > getting more and more into it, then teach them a bit more, and add to the > level of work they have to do to make the pass happen. As a wise scouter > once said to me, many years ago (when talking about campfire songs, but the > principle applies to this too): If you're drilling for oil, and you don't > strike it within the first couple of minutes... stop boring! > > In short (or long, as it seems to have become)... See what works for you, > but plan to start simple and work upwards! You know your young people better > than I do, so assess their capabilities and challenge them, whilst staying > within those capabilities. > > 73, and a firm left handshake, > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Hart [mailto:nickhart at usa.net] > Sent: 04 January 2018 19:16 > To: John > Cc: jim at k6ccc.org; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > I'm glad you mentioned scouts, John. > > I counsel for the radio merit badge for our local scouts, and Elmer our > local middle school's radio club. In the club last month, we completed tape > measure yagis. And, for this month's radio club meeting, I was planning on > having the kids working a couple of birds passing during the meeting time. > > I figured that with 10 kids, we could have them in teams for tracking, > tuning, recording and operating under my supervision. I thought it would be > good for them to try to do everything manually once for two reasons. One is > to show that's it's doable on a minimum budget by a teenager. And, the other > is so they'll have an appreciation of everything our more automated rig will > do during our ARISS QSO in March. > > From your comments, I'm rethinking that strategy a bit. Do you think that's > too much? > > 73! > > Nick > >> On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:57 AM, John wrote: >> >> Hey now, don't shoot the messenger! The vast majority of my AMSAT >> demonstrations are done with groups of scouts of various ages, and the >> last thing they need to see is me focussing more on the radio than >> making sure they understand what's going on! >> >> If I've got a piece of software that can correct for doppler shift for >> me, and it can manage pointing my antennas in the right direction, >> then it leaves my focus available for the actual operating, and the >> explanations to the young people who could well be the next generation >> of amateur radio and AMSAT enthusiasts ;) I think that's a far better >> use of my resources than sitting there with my back to the people I'm >> supposed to be introducing to the hobby, and focussing on turning >> dials and pushing rotator controller buttons... >> >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of >> jim at k6ccc.org >> Sent: 04 January 2018 17:46 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> >> >> Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly >> preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. >> >> Jim >> K6CCC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "John" >> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 >> To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually >> mean your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? >> >> If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 >> has always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using >> linears (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the >> case you can adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally >> calculated based on your locator and the Keplerian data you can >> download (and should be updating every time you open up the app). If, >> however, you mean your offset (ie finding your own downlink) then this >> is always a bit variable for me, but usually pretty close. >> >> SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust >> them (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the >> top right of the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it >> keeps the same offsets. You may find your offset is slightly different >> on different passes, or you may find it's exact every time, but that's >> part of the fun with linears - finding yourself first! >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> 73, >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L >> Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. >> >> Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. >> >> Any hints or advice would be appreciated. >> >> radio and ant are comp controled >> >> thanks >> >> dave >> >> kb0rfy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From cchunter3 at mindspring.com Thu Jan 4 21:36:18 2018 From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (christy hunter) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:36:18 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] WISP step by step guide by Steve Bible N7HPR ? Message-ID: hello All, 1ST Q. I noticed the Amsat - 2005-WISP guide pdf says there is a step by step guide in the appendix (by N7HPR). my copy obtained from the AMSAT/NA site,? does not have that appendix guide. Anyone have a copy? (I also do not see the 'Known Problems file'. 2nd Q. can this program(set of programs) be used without using the satellite control module, but instead use SatPC32? e.g. just send messages to Falconsat3. thanks for any help. 73 Christy KB6LTY --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com From scott23192 at gmail.com Fri Jan 5 02:52:38 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 21:52:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] WISP step by step guide by Steve Bible N7HPR ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>> 2nd Q. can this program(set of programs) be used without using the satellite control module, but instead use SatPC32? >>> e.g. just send messages to Falconsat3. Absolutely! Other than setting the sat parameters for FalconSat-3 in the GSC app (one time), the only WiSP program that I run during a pass is MSPE. That handles all the send/receive of BBS files and directory updates. For everything else, I use the same software that I normally run for satellite activities (Orbitron, HDSDR, UZ7HO HS_Soundmodem, Direwolf, etc.) -Scott, K4KDR ============================== On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:36 PM, christy hunter wrote: > hello All, > > 1ST Q. I noticed the Amsat - 2005-WISP guide pdf says there is a step by > step guide in the appendix (by N7HPR). > my copy obtained from the AMSAT/NA site, does not have that appendix > guide. Anyone have a copy? (I also do not see the > 'Known Problems file'. > > 2nd Q. can this program(set of programs) be used without using the > satellite control module, but instead use SatPC32? > e.g. just send messages to Falconsat3. > thanks for any help. > 73 Christy KB6LTY From ka3hsw at att.net Fri Jan 5 05:08:30 2018 From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 23:08:30 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com> Message-ID: The very first thing to check is your computer's clock: it must be dead on for successful doppler correction on the linear birds, whereas you may not notice it much on the FM sats. 73, KA3HSW -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave L Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2018 5:32 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. Fm birds are not a problem. SSB? I'm either to far ahead or behind. Any hints or advice would be appreciated. radio and ant are comp controled thanks dave kb0rfy _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ka3hsw at att.net Fri Jan 5 05:17:49 2018 From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 23:17:49 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <056201d38594$b22ca280$1685e780$@amber.org.uk> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com><04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk><1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com><055501d38585$757c47a0$6074d6e0$@amber.org.uk><90F31CAB-B52D-460B-9AFA-C5A2D431378C@usa.net> <056201d38594$b22ca280$1685e780$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: <3F08358F70FB4DACA4F10AA65DC526AF@RadioRoomPC> Several years ago, when the ISS repeater was still working, I was doing a satellite demo for the scouts under the K9BSA callsign, working stations right and left with 20 - 25 scouts gathered around the rig, when astronaut Mike Fincke picked up the mic and said "hello to the scouts from the International Space Station, NA1SS!" I swear, the collective "thud" of the scouts' jaws hitting the floor could be heard for miles... George, KA3HSW -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 1:46 PM To: 'Nick Hart' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Hi Nick, It all depends on the knowledge and skillset of the scouts in question. My last significant AMSAT demo was done during JOTA, and at that point we had between 100 and 150 young people come through the shack doors throughout the weekend. We didn't have a huge amount of time to explain everything or go really interactive with the control or tracking, and to be honest most of them were amazed enough that they could hear voices coming back from space, so when we listened in to one of the Italian ARISS contacts, they were even more thrilled! My trusty FT-847, SatPC32, ERC-M interface and Kenpro KR5600 did the job nicely, we made quite a few QSOs, and we got to listen to a full ISS pass - something the 80 odd people who poured into the shack when it started will likely not forget for a long time yet. From n0jy at amsat.org Fri Jan 5 07:10:36 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 01:10:36 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Es'hail-2 In-Reply-To: <4fe5bd24-fa48-c1c7-015e-5235b0091252@kourou.de> References: <4fe5bd24-fa48-c1c7-015e-5235b0091252@kourou.de> Message-ID: Excellent! Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/3/2018 05:24, Peter G?lzow wrote: > > Es'hail-2 reached a major milestone in spacecraft completion, with > successful completion of critical acoustic and vibration tests. > > ??? ????? ????-2 ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ?? ????? ???????? ????? > ??????? ????? > > #Eshailsat #Spacecraft #Satellite #Communication #Broadcast #Operator > #Milestone #Qatar #MiddleEast #Africa > > Source: > https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1734202026619631&id=309354982437683 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john at amber.org.uk Fri Jan 5 08:14:33 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 08:14:33 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <9f503194-cf3a-8584-0aac-e11864e37b29@gmail.com> References: <865waDutb3760S03.1515098787@web03.cms.usa.net> <9f503194-cf3a-8584-0aac-e11864e37b29@gmail.com> Message-ID: <05a501d385fd$383edba0$a8bc92e0$@amber.org.uk> Hi Greg, Great idea! Good for that next step up. The point of "who can hear it the loudest" is exactly that. It's subjective, unmeasurable, and therefore doesn't make any one scout feel like they weren't good enough. And for a beginner, or someone who can't hear callsigns in SSB very well, it's a lot less stressful and difficult to say "look, I can hear the voices" than "I've spotted KO6TH, K6CCC and M1ACB". Once they're a bit more experienced, then you step it up a notch or two, but right at the start, "I can hear it" or "I can't hear it" or somewhere in between is more than enough to encourage that competitive spirit and get them going! 73, and a firm left handshake, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: Greg D [mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com] Sent: 04 January 2018 21:25 To: Nick Hart ; John Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Following the "contest" approach, perhaps set up teams of a couple of kids, each with a radio and hand-held beam, and see who can copy the most number of call signs. As preparation, you'd need to explain a whole lot of stuff - what a bandpass is, what the track of the bird is through the sky, doppler shift, etc, etc, etc. Then they can put it to practice. A goal of loudest, or such, is kind of subjective; how would you really measure it? Number of call signs, I think, would be simple and cause nearly all of the challenges we face in operating to come into play, without being so horrible that copying one call wouldn't be beyond reach. So everyone would have some success and feeling of accomplishment, but still have a competition and a winner. Just a thought, Greg KO6TH Nick Hart wrote: > How exciting it must have been to get a great demo with such a large group. > > Excellent advice, John. I like the competition idea very much, which > is why I had them with 2 separate rigs. > > A long time ago, when I used to teach Sunday school, we used a > guideline that a kid's attention span is their age in minutes. I've > got 10 to 14 year olds, so we'll keep it moving from activity to activity that they can handle. > > (My own theory is that after a certain age, ones attention span starts > working its way back down.) > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:46:38 AM PST > From: "John" > To: "'Nick Hart'" Cc: > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > Hi Nick, > > It all depends on the knowledge and skillset of the scouts in > question. My last significant AMSAT demo was done during JOTA, and at > that point we had between 100 and 150 young people come through the > shack doors throughout the weekend. We didn't have a huge amount of > time to explain everything or go really interactive with the control > or tracking, and to be honest most of them were amazed enough that > they could hear voices coming back from space, so when we listened in > to one of the Italian ARISS contacts, they were even more thrilled! My > trusty FT-847, SatPC32, ERC-M interface and Kenpro KR5600 did the job > nicely, we made quite a few QSOs, and we got to listen to a full ISS > pass - something the 80 odd people who poured into the shack when it started will likely not forget for a long time yet. > > If your group of scouts is at a level where they've got the > understanding, accuracy and, most importantly, the concentration to > follow the full pass, then there's no reason not to try it manually > with them. If, however, they're less experienced/interested/accurate, > then you might find that it's hard to keep them all doing their > respective jobs at once. Remember that there's only one of you trying > to manage four different teams at that point, so how far you can > stretch yourself is another consideration. Especially if your primary focus is on the actual operation of the QSO. > > If you want to demonstrate that it can be done on a budget, get them > to bring those tape-measure yagis they built with them. Hook up a > couple of handhelds or FT817s to them, and demonstrate an FM bird > (AO-91, SO-50, or > similar?) for the simplest approach. Then step up the game a bit, > adding a little more challenge. Even if you just listen during the > first pass or two, you'll see the thrill they'll get from knowing it's > working with the yagis they built themselves at the last club meeting, > and that's where you can gauge whether they are ready to step it up. > If you want to add a bit more 'competition' to it, then have them run > the yagis and handhelds alongside a full auto-tracking station and see if they can 'match' it (or even 'beat' > it). Never underestimate the power of some healthy competition - give > 4 teams identical sets of gear, show them where to point, and you'll > find that they're competing to see who can hear the satellite the loudest in no time. > If, however, you want some successful QSOs, then it's worth having a > back-up plan that you can roll out if you aren't getting success. > > One of the biggest things I've found in the past with demonstrations > is that whilst the latest and greatest kit isn't necessary, having a > decent setup that's hassle-free and 'just works' can bail you out of a > huge hole. We found the same thing with HF a few years ago - whilst > you can theoretically make that QSO to the opposite side of the planet > on 1W with a wet piece of string up a tree in the right conditions, > it's a lot easier to put on a successful demonstration with an 8 > element HF beam at 80 feet on a tower, plenty of TX power and a radio > with an excellent receiver. And very often the quality is what will determine whether or not you keep the interest. > Making them work for that contact is all well and good, but sometimes > instant gratification is better for the uninitiated or more casual folk. > > There's no hard and fast formula for what will or won't work. You > gotta read your audience, respond to it, and work from there. If you > can see they're getting more and more into it, then teach them a bit > more, and add to the level of work they have to do to make the pass > happen. As a wise scouter once said to me, many years ago (when > talking about campfire songs, but the principle applies to this too): > If you're drilling for oil, and you don't strike it within the first couple of minutes... stop boring! > > In short (or long, as it seems to have become)... See what works for > you, but plan to start simple and work upwards! You know your young > people better than I do, so assess their capabilities and challenge > them, whilst staying within those capabilities. > > 73, and a firm left handshake, > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Hart [mailto:nickhart at usa.net] > Sent: 04 January 2018 19:16 > To: John > Cc: jim at k6ccc.org; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift > > I'm glad you mentioned scouts, John. > > I counsel for the radio merit badge for our local scouts, and Elmer > our local middle school's radio club. In the club last month, we > completed tape measure yagis. And, for this month's radio club > meeting, I was planning on having the kids working a couple of birds passing during the meeting time. > > I figured that with 10 kids, we could have them in teams for tracking, > tuning, recording and operating under my supervision. I thought it > would be good for them to try to do everything manually once for two > reasons. One is to show that's it's doable on a minimum budget by a > teenager. And, the other is so they'll have an appreciation of > everything our more automated rig will do during our ARISS QSO in March. > > From your comments, I'm rethinking that strategy a bit. Do you think > that's too much? > > 73! > > Nick > >> On Jan 4, 2018, at 9:57 AM, John wrote: >> >> Hey now, don't shoot the messenger! The vast majority of my AMSAT >> demonstrations are done with groups of scouts of various ages, and >> the last thing they need to see is me focussing more on the radio >> than making sure they understand what's going on! >> >> If I've got a piece of software that can correct for doppler shift >> for me, and it can manage pointing my antennas in the right >> direction, then it leaves my focus available for the actual >> operating, and the explanations to the young people who could well be >> the next generation of amateur radio and AMSAT enthusiasts ;) I think >> that's a far better use of my resources than sitting there with my >> back to the people I'm supposed to be introducing to the hobby, and >> focussing on turning dials and pushing rotator controller buttons... >> >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of >> jim at k6ccc.org >> Sent: 04 January 2018 17:46 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> >> >> Ya know, you could MANUALLY tune. It does work. In fact I strongly >> preferred manually tuning for doppler shift vs computer corrected. >> >> Jim >> K6CCC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "John" >> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 02:10 >> To: "'Dave L'" , amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> When you say your doppler is too far ahead or behind, do you actually >> mean your overall frequency, or do you mean your split distance? >> >> If you mean your overall frequency then that's really odd, as SatPC32 >> has always put me smack bang in the middle of the pass-band if using >> linears (with the correct locator set on login). If this isn't the >> case you can adjust it in the settings files, but it's generally >> calculated based on your locator and the Keplerian data you can >> download (and should be updating every time you open up the app). If, >> however, you mean your offset (ie finding your own downlink) then >> this is always a bit variable for me, but usually pretty close. >> >> SatPC32 does, in my experience, remember your offsets when you adjust >> them (in my case either with the + and - buttons, or the pot at the >> top right of the rig), so that next time you hit that satellite it >> keeps the same offsets. You may find your offset is slightly >> different on different passes, or you may find it's exact every time, >> but that's part of the fun with linears - finding yourself first! >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> 73, >> John (XLX) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave >> L >> Sent: 03 January 2018 23:32 >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift >> >> I'm useing satpc and a Yaesu ft-847. >> >> Fm birds are not a problem. SSB I'm either to far ahead or behind. >> >> Any hints or advice would be appreciated. >> >> radio and ant are comp controled >> >> thanks >> >> dave >> >> kb0rfy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the > official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From john at amber.org.uk Fri Jan 5 08:34:38 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 08:34:38 -0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift In-Reply-To: <3F08358F70FB4DACA4F10AA65DC526AF@RadioRoomPC> References: <740c9b17-ee95-dc0a-7ee2-7d318ed8abf4@q.com><04e901d38544$45255060$cf6ff120$@amber.org.uk><1515087974.205731789@apps.rackspace.com><055501d38585$757c47a0$6074d6e0$@amber.org.uk><90F31CAB-B52D-460B-9AFA-C5A2D431378C@usa.net> <056201d38594$b22ca280$1685e780$@amber.org.uk> <3F08358F70FB4DACA4F10AA65DC526AF@RadioRoomPC> Message-ID: <05a601d38600$06e68910$14b39b30$@amber.org.uk> Wow. Just wow! I bet they loved that. Our experience was somewhat different, mostly because it was total luck. I'd just finished talking to the two cub-scouts (8-10 years old) and their leader who were sat with me, in one of the last sessions of the day before they were due to leave. I'd done a bit of explanation about satellites, the ISS, mentioned Tim Peake (we're British after all, and pretty much every kid had heard of him) along with a little bit more about all that good stuff. I glanced at my screen, as I didn't have any ARISS schedules to hand, and saw that the ISS was about to come over the horizon, so I said to them "if you want to try to listen and see if we hear anything, I'll show you how it works". I set the expectation at zero, and they said "yeah, why not". Tracking starts, and nothing heard initially, but then a dead FM carrier... They didn't know what that was but heard a change in the sound. Then they heard the ISS calling down to a ground station, but didn't understand the callsigns. They did, however, understand the words "calling from the International Space Station". Bearing in mind this was the first time I'd heard the prelim calls (the ISS hadn't quite appeared over the Italian horizon at that point I don't think), I was still working out what was going on myself, but immediately shouted for the rest of the visitors who were on site to join us. The two cub scouts sat by me still hadn't picked up their jaws at this point - the thud was probably about as loud as your guys' jaws hitting the deck too - but then everyone else piled in, and duly listened to the entire contact, despite not one of them understanding a single word as from that point on once contact had been made, it was all conducted in Italian! By the time the parents had come to collect their children an hour later or so, video footage had been shared by one of the leaders into the Whatsapp chat they run with their childrens' parents, and most parents had seen/heard about it - they were talking about it on the way in to collect their children, and the children themselves didn't stop talking about it - I'm lead to believe it was the biggest surprise of the weekend, and the most memorable moment for them! For me, that ten minute pass was the highlight of the weekend, and if nothing else, it made it all well and truly worth it, especially since I was using two completely unknown and untested beams, a rotator kit I'd had in pieces on my lap two weeks prior resoldering connections inside, rebuilding motors and bearings for, and a radio I'd only owned for 3 months and had barely played with. It was most definitely "a bit of a lash-up", but it worked, we got the contacts we wanted (ie any at all), and the young people throughout the weekend got a bit of a better idea about radio, AMSAT and so on. We did keep a couple of 2M tape measure receivers handy too, so we could demonstrate the simple end of the scale, but that made it even better. You should have heard some of the guesses for the size of the automated birds though - none of them ever imagined a cubesat can be as small as they are... 73, and a firm left handshake, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: George Henry [mailto:ka3hsw at att.net] Sent: 05 January 2018 05:18 To: 'John' ; 'Nick Hart' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Several years ago, when the ISS repeater was still working, I was doing a satellite demo for the scouts under the K9BSA callsign, working stations right and left with 20 - 25 scouts gathered around the rig, when astronaut Mike Fincke picked up the mic and said "hello to the scouts from the International Space Station, NA1SS!" I swear, the collective "thud" of the scouts' jaws hitting the floor could be heard for miles... George, KA3HSW -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 1:46 PM To: 'Nick Hart' Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Hi Nick, It all depends on the knowledge and skillset of the scouts in question. My last significant AMSAT demo was done during JOTA, and at that point we had between 100 and 150 young people come through the shack doors throughout the weekend. We didn't have a huge amount of time to explain everything or go really interactive with the control or tracking, and to be honest most of them were amazed enough that they could hear voices coming back from space, so when we listened in to one of the Italian ARISS contacts, they were even more thrilled! My trusty FT-847, SatPC32, ERC-M interface and Kenpro KR5600 did the job nicely, we made quite a few QSOs, and we got to listen to a full ISS pass - something the 80 odd people who poured into the shack when it started will likely not forget for a long time yet. From straarup at gmail.com Fri Jan 5 13:05:05 2018 From: straarup at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=B8ren_Straarup?=) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 07:05:05 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? In-Reply-To: <293waDDXY3456S04.1515036290@web04.cms.usa.net> References: <293waDDXY3456S04.1515036290@web04.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: Hi Nick, With AO-7 I would recommend practicing ahead. Also on AO-7 low power is essential. As Paul mentioned, if the total power consumption gets too high it flips into mode A.. Also know as: flipping the bird. Some times there is an early warning when signals starts FM'ing, other times no warning. I would recommend running no more than 5W into an Arrow antenna. Vy 73 de AK4WQ/OZ2DAK, Soren Straarup On Jan 3, 2018 21:27, "Nick Hart" wrote: > Great input, Paul! > > Thank you, and 73! > > Nick > KK6ZLF > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Wed, 03 Jan 2018 07:09:51 PM PST > From: Paul Stoetzer > To: Nick Hart Cc: Greg D , > amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? > > AO-7 has generally been stable for the past several months. In the Northern > Hemisphere spring and summer months, it has been quite unstable, easily > switching out of Mode B when signals are present in the passband. This is > likely due to the sun's angle on the solar panels. AO-7 has no panels on > the "top" or "bottom" of the satellite, and with AO-7's current orbit, the > sun is not in an ideal position to illuminate the satellite's solar panels > during the Northern Hemisphere summer. > > For a demo next week, AO-7 has an excellent shot of being active in Mode B. > Next month, or in March, the chances may be less. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Nick Hart wrote: > > > Absolutely agreed, Greg, > > > > We're just limited to what's passing over during the club meeting for the > > kids > > this month. We'll have one or two more club meetings between now and > ARISS > > day. But, we adults who are working the event will have it dialed in by > > the > > time of the ARISS QSO. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Nick > > > > To: Nick Hart Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 status? > > > > Nick, > > > > If you want some practice ahead of the ARISS event (really good idea!), > > it might be a more relevant experience to get a few of the FM birds > > under your belt. AO-85, AO-91, SO-50. Perhaps track the ISS via Packet > > (when/if they get the packet station back on the air), to get a feel for > > that system. Also watch for any ARISS events that you can listen in on > > (for example, the telebridge contacts through W6SRJ in Santa Rosa). > > > > Some of the ground station operations, either direct or telebridge, have > > been documented on YouTube. Also worth a watch. > > > > As for AO-7, first look at the status logs on Amsat.org > > (http://www.amsat.org/status/); seems like it's pretty much been in Mode > > B (70cm up, 2m down), but that can change as the satellite's eclipse > > schedule changes over the course of the year. Otherwise, it is > > definitely a daylight-only bird (as seen by the satellite, not > > necessarily here on the ground). > > > > Best of luck for your contact, > > > > Greg KO6TH > > > > > > Nick Hart wrote: > > > Good afternoon, > > > > > > KK6ZLF in CM87. I am elmering a radio club at the local middle school, > > and > > we > > > have a scheduled ARISS QSO coming up in March. > > > > > > A week from tomorrow, we're going to try to do a few QSOs on the > > available > > > birds during the club meeting, 22 to 23:00 zulu. One of the passes is > > AO-7. > > I > > > saw on the AMSAT site that it is working strictly on solar power. But, > > this > > > should be a good daytime pass for us. > > > > > > Does anyone have any recent experience and advice for AO-7? > > > > > > Thanks, and 73! > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > KK6ZLF > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions > > expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp Fri Jan 5 09:49:08 2018 From: ei7m-wkt at asahi-net.or.jp (Mineo Wakita) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 18:49:08 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] WISP step by step guide by Steve Bible N7HPR ? Message-ID: <6D21E7E6591B4639ACC9562D2EBF3F8D@je9pel> Please refer my web site, http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wispinfo.htm#wisp JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita --- ??E???????? ????????????????????????? https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ns3l at yahoo.com Fri Jan 5 11:23:47 2018 From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Any new status updates on Fox-1C? Launch Date? References: <1053670341.902721.1515151427284.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1053670341.902721.1515151427284@mail.yahoo.com> Anyone have any new the status of Fox-1C? Launch Date in January 2018, or has it been pushed out? Steve NS3L From ns3l at yahoo.com Fri Jan 5 12:02:52 2018 From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 12:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Any new status updates on Fox-1C? Launch Date? In-Reply-To: <1053670341.902721.1515151427284@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1053670341.902721.1515151427284.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1053670341.902721.1515151427284@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1261064481.904501.1515153772289@mail.yahoo.com> Sorry meant to say Fox-1D? From: Steve Nordahl To: AMSAT BB Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 6:23 AM Subject: Any new status updates on Fox-1C? Launch Date? Anyone have any new the status of Fox-1C? Launch Date in January 2018, or has it been pushed out? Steve NS3L From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri Jan 5 18:30:03 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 18:30:03 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73/FUNcube-1 Weekend mode Message-ID: <7c7c4b66-1b2f-44a6-063d-23b4fa69cbe6@btinternet.com> Hi All, AO73 is now in continuous amateur mode for the weekend. The transponder is on and low power telemetry is available. If you are holding an educational outreach event over the next few weeks please request a short Fitter message by emailing operations at funcube.org.uk giving us at least a week's notice! thanks and 73 Graham G3VZV From philji at mac.com Fri Jan 5 21:00:51 2018 From: philji at mac.com (Phillip Lontz) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 14:00:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] First contact on AO 91 In-Reply-To: <7c7c4b66-1b2f-44a6-063d-23b4fa69cbe6@btinternet.com> References: <7c7c4b66-1b2f-44a6-063d-23b4fa69cbe6@btinternet.com> Message-ID: K5SSR DM75 Well it works? thanks for the contact? Phil Santa Fe, NM From kb0rfy at q.com Fri Jan 5 20:23:34 2018 From: kb0rfy at q.com (Dave L) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:23:34 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] doppler shift Message-ID: Thanks to all for help with understanding and correcting for doppler shift. I'll be makeing adjustments and be on the birds soon. thanks again to all, special thanks to Carlos W7QL for the phone call to help me setting up satpc. thanks again dave kb0rfy 73's From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Fri Jan 5 21:31:41 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:31:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] First contact on AO 91 In-Reply-To: References: <7c7c4b66-1b2f-44a6-063d-23b4fa69cbe6@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Phil, Nice to work you on that AO-91 pass! I think the start of some of your transmissions either came too soon for the satellite to repeat, or the strong signals were getting the uplink first. Glad to make the contact. I have an MP3 recording of that pass I would be happy to send you. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Friday, January 5, 2018, Phillip Lontz wrote: > K5SSR DM75 > > Well it works? thanks for the contact? > > Phil > Santa Fe, NM > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From py41 at att.net Fri Jan 5 22:38:10 2018 From: py41 at att.net (Perry Yantis) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] K8YAH SK References: <606933157.1261453.1515191890676.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <606933157.1261453.1515191890676@mail.yahoo.com> Ron Vanke K8YAH is now a silent key.Ron was very active on the satellites for many years.Ronald Vanke's Obituary on The Columbus Dispatch ?Perry WB8OTH py41 at att.net sent from my Apple Macbook Pro From g0kla at arrl.net Fri Jan 5 23:56:14 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 18:56:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] WISP - Resetting the directory Message-ID: Hi everyone,.... I had some trouble with WISP after the BBS reload. I was no longer downloading any new directory entries. I tried resetting the holes and resetting the date of the directory, but nothing seemed to work. I then noticed this in the Pacsat Protocol, describing which file headers are requested: "The local computer then sends a message to PACSAT that says send the next file whose header meets the following criteria: it's a mail message type. the destination is me. and the file number is bigger than x?. x is the number of the last file received on the ground, and is kept by the local computer. ". The problem was, the last file on the ground still had a 4 digit hex number in my directory but the new files on FS-3 all started at 100. So WISP was asking for new fiiles that did not exist yet. To fix this I had to start the directory again. In my C:\WISP directory I renamed the falconsat-3 directory to a new name as a backup. Then I started GSC, went into Setup, Satellite Setup, Edited Falconsat-3, clicked on Directories. Then clicked OK. This seemed to cause GSC to recreate all the falconsat-3 directories under C:\WISP. After that everything has been running well. Some people who are stuck may not be able to download this! So I will cross post to..AMSAT-BB. 73 Chris -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From kk5do at arrl.net Sat Jan 6 02:38:33 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 20:38:33 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Rover Award Message-ID: <03247d4e-d4d3-cab9-8c36-4bf023cd595d@arrl.net> Now that everyone knows what the award is and has had a bit of time to look it over, we need your help. I would like to design a certificate that helps show what a rover is. Therefore, I would like some photos of a rover station, rover antennas, anything that would be really neat on the certificate. There is a hitch.... it cannot show anyone's callsign, cannot show anyone in the picture that makes them identifiable. Let's open the submission for two weeks (until January 19) and after the two weeks, we will place the pix on the AMSAT website and let the AMSAT members choose the two, three or four pictures that they think reflect the best of roving. Of course, if you chose to submit a picture, you will also agree to allow AMSAT to use the picture on the certificate without a by-line or credit. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From nickhart at usa.net Sat Jan 6 06:27:54 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:27:54 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for SSTV software for windows, iOS and Linux? Message-ID: <423waFgA36672S01.1515220074@web01.cms.usa.net> Good evening AMSAT Elmers! I have my hardware setup that can support SSTV, and would appreciate any software recommendations. What are you currently using that you like? I have devices that run Windows, iOS and Linux. I'd love to be able to participate in the next ISS SSTV round, receiving, if not transmitting yet. Thanks, and 73! Nick KK6ZLF From johnbrier at gmail.com Sat Jan 6 06:49:23 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 01:49:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for SSTV software for windows, iOS and Linux? In-Reply-To: <423waFgA36672S01.1515220074@web01.cms.usa.net> References: <423waFgA36672S01.1515220074@web01.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: For iOS use ?SSTV Slow Scan TV? by Black Cat Systems https://itunes.apple.com/app/sstv/id387910013 For Android use "Robot36" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xdsopl.robot36&hl=en For Windows use ?MMSSTV? (see AMSAT UK link below for setup) http://hamsoft.ca/pages/mmsstv.php Note I actually prefer RX-SSTV on Windows now. Originally I found MMSSTV got sharper images but on RX-SSTV if you disable BPF (band pass filter I believe), it will get them as sharp as MMSSTV, and the big difference is that RX-SSTV doesn't have nearly as many slants in its decodes as MMSSTV. If the signal is not great enable BPF and things will be smoothed out a bit. For Mac OS X use ?Multiscan 3B SSTV? http://www.qsl.net/kd6cji/ For Linux use ?QSSTV? http://users.telenet.be/on4qz/qsstv/index.html This is from my web page: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-reception-hints/ I also recently made a zip file of a bunch of actual ISS SSTV transmissions you can use to test your setups: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-audio-recordings/ My main tip is to record the ISS SSTV transmissions so you can run them through different software with different settings to get the best decode. Good luck! 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:27 AM, Nick Hart wrote: > Good evening AMSAT Elmers! > > I have my hardware setup that can support SSTV, and would appreciate any > software recommendations. What are you currently using that you like? I have > devices that run Windows, iOS and Linux. I'd love to be able to participate in > the next ISS SSTV round, receiving, if not transmitting yet. > > Thanks, and 73! > > Nick > KK6ZLF > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nickhart at usa.net Sat Jan 6 07:21:11 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 23:21:11 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for SSTV software for windows, iOS and Linux? Message-ID: <597waFHuL5040S04.1515223271@web04.cms.usa.net> Excellent! I was just on a net in which some operators were recommending easypal. Downloaded it, but didn't get too far. I saw MMSSTV online, and I'll experiment with it tomorrow. Thanks again, John! 73! Nick ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 10:49:49 PM PST From: John Brier To: Nick Hart Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for SSTV software for windows, iOS and Linux? For iOS use ?SSTV Slow Scan TV? by Black Cat Systems https://itunes.apple.com/app/sstv/id387910013 For Android use "Robot36" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xdsopl.robot36&hl=en For Windows use ?MMSSTV? (see AMSAT UK link below for setup) http://hamsoft.ca/pages/mmsstv.php Note I actually prefer RX-SSTV on Windows now. Originally I found MMSSTV got sharper images but on RX-SSTV if you disable BPF (band pass filter I believe), it will get them as sharp as MMSSTV, and the big difference is that RX-SSTV doesn't have nearly as many slants in its decodes as MMSSTV. If the signal is not great enable BPF and things will be smoothed out a bit. For Mac OS X use ?Multiscan 3B SSTV? http://www.qsl.net/kd6cji/ For Linux use ?QSSTV? http://users.telenet.be/on4qz/qsstv/index.html This is from my web page: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-reception-hints/ I also recently made a zip file of a bunch of actual ISS SSTV transmissions you can use to test your setups: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-audio-recordings/ My main tip is to record the ISS SSTV transmissions so you can run them through different software with different settings to get the best decode. Good luck! 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:27 AM, Nick Hart wrote: > Good evening AMSAT Elmers! > > I have my hardware setup that can support SSTV, and would appreciate any > software recommendations. What are you currently using that you like? I have > devices that run Windows, iOS and Linux. I'd love to be able to participate in > the next ISS SSTV round, receiving, if not transmitting yet. > > Thanks, and 73! > > Nick > KK6ZLF > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sat Jan 6 07:33:30 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 23:33:30 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for SSTV software for windows, iOS and Linux? In-Reply-To: <597waFHuL5040S04.1515223271@web04.cms.usa.net> References: <597waFHuL5040S04.1515223271@web04.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: I second the vote for MMSSTV. Note that it runs fine on Linux under Wine (how I run it), as well as the native Windows. Greg KO6TH Nick Hart wrote: > Excellent! > > I was just on a net in which some operators were recommending easypal. > Downloaded it, but didn't get too far. I saw MMSSTV online, and I'll > experiment with it tomorrow. > > Thanks again, John! > > 73! > > Nick > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 10:49:49 PM PST > From: John Brier > To: Nick Hart Cc: AMSAT BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Recommendations for SSTV software for windows, iOS and > Linux? > > For iOS use ?SSTV Slow Scan TV? by Black Cat Systems > https://itunes.apple.com/app/sstv/id387910013 > > For Android use "Robot36" > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xdsopl.robot36&hl=en > > For Windows use ?MMSSTV? (see AMSAT UK link below for setup) > http://hamsoft.ca/pages/mmsstv.php > > Note I actually prefer RX-SSTV on Windows now. Originally I found > MMSSTV got sharper images but on RX-SSTV if you disable BPF (band pass > filter I believe), it will get them as sharp as MMSSTV, and the big > difference is that RX-SSTV doesn't have nearly as many slants in its > decodes as MMSSTV. If the signal is not great enable BPF and things > will be smoothed out a bit. > > For Mac OS X use ?Multiscan 3B SSTV? > http://www.qsl.net/kd6cji/ > > For Linux use ?QSSTV? > http://users.telenet.be/on4qz/qsstv/index.html > > This is from my web page: > > https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-reception-hints/ > > I also recently made a zip file of a bunch of actual ISS SSTV > transmissions you can use to test your setups: > > https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-audio-recordings/ > > My main tip is to record the ISS SSTV transmissions so you can run > them through different software with different settings to get the > best decode. Good luck! > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:27 AM, Nick Hart wrote: >> Good evening AMSAT Elmers! >> >> I have my hardware setup that can support SSTV, and would appreciate any >> software recommendations. What are you currently using that you like? I > have >> devices that run Windows, iOS and Linux. I'd love to be able to participate > in >> the next ISS SSTV round, receiving, if not transmitting yet. >> >> Thanks, and 73! >> >> Nick >> KK6ZLF >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From les at highnoonfilm.com Sat Jan 6 09:43:13 2018 From: les at highnoonfilm.com (Les Rayburn) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 03:43:13 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-910H and SATPC32 Message-ID: <60FFD673-9B37-402E-BB21-645CAE21BF7E@highnoonfilm.com> I?ve been off the birds for about two years, and a few months ago I asked for assistance in getting started again. Two members of this forum were kind enough to send me their configuration files for SATPC32 so that I could update my software with all the new satellites that have been launched during my absence. As luck would have it, the hard drive failed, and I?ve replaced that computer with a newer Windows 10 64 bit version. Plenty of horsepower and RAM. Could I kindly fall upon my sword, and ask for assistance again? I?d love to update SATPC32 to include all the latest satellites. I work SSB, FM, and CW but none of the digital birds (yet). If someone could share their configuration files for SATPC32 including all the birds currently flying, I?d be most grateful for the assist. You?ll probably save me the better part of a day trying to figure out how to update everything manually. Thanks in advance. Hope to work you all again soon. 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-1 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song?? From lanekg at gmail.com Sat Jan 6 11:37:43 2018 From: lanekg at gmail.com (Greg Lane) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 05:37:43 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] N4KGL from EM61 January 6th. Message-ID: I will be at the Samson, AL rocket launch which is in EM61. I may get on these passes. However, I can get distracted by rocket activities on the field. AO-91 will be visible from Samson, on Saturday, January 6 17:54:10 UTC Starting in the SE (142?) Ending in the N (5?) at 18:04:49 UTC Maximum elevation: 23.3?? AO-85 will be visible from Samson, on Saturday, January 6 20:11:39 UTC Starting in the S (175?) Ending in the NE (45?) at 20:22:37 UTC Maximum elevation: 19.6?? I also might get on HF most likely 20 meters. I will spot on DX Summit. Thanks, Greg N4KGL From k9jkm at comcast.net Sun Jan 7 00:24:17 2018 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 18:24:17 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-007 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <194f0306-3956-abce-7905-cc2240f347f4@comcast.net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-007 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans In this edition: * GOLF-TEE $15,000 Matching Funds President?s Challenge * Launch Watch - India's ISRO PSLV-C40 Mission With Fox-1D Aboard * Your Telemetry Data is Needed to Assist With Fox-1D Commissioning * French PicSat With V/U FM Transponder Also Aboard PSLV-C40 Launch * AMSAT Announces the Rover Award * AMSAT Second Annual CW Activity Day Wrap Up * AMSAT-UK Reporting on a Chinese Launch With Five 6U Cubesats * Volunteer Opportunity - Openings for News Service Rotating Editor * AMSAT South Africa and SARL Hosting January 20 SDR Workshop * New Grid Master Awarded * NASA on the Air Events to Highlight Key Space Milestones * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-007.01 ANS-007 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 007.01 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE January 7, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-007.01 GOLF-TEE $15,000 Matching Funds President?s Challenge In October 2017 AMSAT announced the GOLF (Greater Orbit, Larger Foot- print) program. The first project of the GOLF program is a technology demonstrator named GOLF-TEE (Technology Evaluation Environment). The design is a 3U CubeSat with deployable solar panels, ADAC (attitude determination and control), Software Defined Radio (SDR) Transponder, and a Vanderbilt University Low Energy Proton (LEP) experiment. Now is the time to begin work on the GOLF-TEE Project. At the end of 2017, AMSAT has generous offers from two AMSAT Past Presidents for matching funds up to $15,000 for those that contribute to the GOLF-TEE campaign at: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=STK27W4G9RMLC (Shortened URL without linewrap: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-007-PayPal-GOLF-Donation ) between now and Feb- ruary 15th. Make your donation twice as valuable by taking advantage of this opportunity and contributing, and help AMSAT fund the launch of the next series of satellites of the GOLF program. There are also donate buttons for GOLF-TEE on the AMSAT website. Planning is for a launch in 2019. Donations of $100 and $1,000 or more will be eligible for a special AMSAT GOLF premium. (Both premiums are currently being designed, so please be patient awaiting delivery.) AMSAT is a 501-(c)-(3) not-for-profit educational and scientific organization of amateur radio operators whose purpose is to design, construct, launch, and operate satellites in space and to provide the support needed to encourage amateurs to utilize these resources. Please consider a tax-deductible contribution to AMSAT to help under- write the development and launch expenses of our GOLF satellite program. Donors wishing to provide additional matching funds please contact Joe Spier, K6WAO at k6wao at amsat.org. (ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Launch Watch - India's ISRO PSLV-C40 Mission With Fox-1D Aboard The PSLV-C40 flight from India has been rescheduled from December 30 to January 10 seems to have settled on a firmer schedule. According to the Launch Schedule posted by SpaceflightNow.com current planning indicates (at ANS press time): January, 11/12, 2018 PSLV ? Cartosat 2F & NovaSAR-S Launch time: 0358 GMT on 12th (10:58 p.m. EST on 11th) Launch site: Satish Dhawan Space Center, Sriharikota, India https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/ India?s Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle, flying on the PSLV-C40 mission, will launch India?s Cartosat 2ER high-resolution Earth observation satellite and the NovaSAR-S radar remote sensing satellite for Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd. of the United Kingdom. A collection of approximately 30 smaller secondary payloads from Indian and inter- national companies and institutions will also be on the launch. AMSAT Fox-1D will be aboard this flight. Additional information can be followed for launch updates at: https://spaceflight101.com/events/pslv-c40-cartosat-2er/ http://tinyurl.com/ANS-007-SpaceFlight-PSLVC40 http://tinyurl.com/ANS-007-SpaceDaily-PSLV [ANS thanks SpaceFlightNow.com for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Your Telemetry Data is Needed to Assist With Fox-1D Commissioning AMSAT will release Keplerian elements for Fox-1D as soon as the data becomes available via the AMSAT Web Site. Participation in telemetry collection by as many stations in as many parts of the world as possible is essential as AMSAT Engineering looks for successful startup and indications of the general health and function of the satellite as it begins to acclimate to space. If you are capturing telemetry with FoxTelem please be sure that "Upload to Server" is checked in your settings, and that your "Ground Station Params" are filled in as well. You can help AMSAT and everyone waiting to get on the air with Fox-1D tremendously by capturing the telemetry. If AMSAT Engineering is seeing nominal values from the telemetry you gather, the satellite will be commanded from Beacon Mode to Safe Mode on the first good pass over the United States. In Safe Mode, the satellite transmits a full two frames of telemetry (one Current frame followed by, and alternating each ID cycle, a High or a Low frame). Veronica now has time to make the whole ID announcement in Safe Mode. The on-orbit checkout procedure for Fox-1D is similar to Fox-1A/AO-85 and RadFxSat. It could be completed in as little as a few days if users cooperate. It is very important, and good amateur operating practice, to refrain from using the transponder uplink so the on-orbit tests can be performed, including when the satellite is switched into Transponder Mode for testing. AMSAT will make it broadly known when the tests are complete and the transponder is available for all to use. If you hear someone on the transponder, please do not assume that it is open for general use - check AMSAT's website, Facebook, and Twitter before transmitting to be sure you do not interfere with testing. AMSAT asks all satellite operators to contribute just a little bit of your time by gathering telemetry, not using the transponder uplink, to help complete the last few days of getting RadFxSat operating for the amateur radio community. Lots of hams put thousands of volunteer hours of their time into making RadFxSat happen. Just like any ham radio project you might undertake, AMSAT builds satellites. AMSAT volunteers do it because they like to, and when they are done, AMSAT freely shares their project with hams everywhere as is the spirit of amateur radio. Thank you very much and see you on the bird! In addition to the Fox-1 U/v FM transponder, Fox-1D contains a number of exciting experiments, including a camera built by stu- dents at Virginia Tech, the University of Iowa's HERCI (High Energy Radiation CubeSat Instrument), and AMSAT's L-Band Downshifter which will give amateur radio operators an opportunity to experiment with a different uplink band. Stay tuned for more information about the launch and early operations of the satellite. RADIO PROGRAMMING CHART Fox-1D Doppler Shift Correction Memory 1 (AOS)???? - TX 435.340 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 2 (Rise)??? - TX 435.345 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 3 (TCA)???? - TX 435.350 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 4 (Descend) - TX 435.355 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 5 (LOS)???? - TX 435.360 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz The L-band experiment will use 1267.350 MHz uplink with 145.880 MHz downlink. Frequencies are subject to change post-launch. [ANS thanks AMSAT Vice-President Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N?JY, for the ? above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- French PicSat With V/U FM Transponder Also Aboard PSLV-C40 Launch Cubesat PicSat is currently in India waiting for launch in January. PicSat is a nano-satellite aimed at observing the transit of the young exoplanet Beta Pictoris b in front of its bright and equally young star Beta Pictoris, and at demonstrating an innovative tech- nological concept to use optical fibres for astronomical observa- tions from Space. The cubesat contains an embedded FM transponder. It will be avail- able when possible during the mission. Description of telemetry and related information are available on https://picsat.obspm.fr/data/telemetries?locale=en. Frequency information: Uplink FM???? 145.910 MHz Downlink FM?? 435.525 MHz Short videos on project is available on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbVE3QEJO74NbJ-tHtThHpg The project team has set up a dedicated web site with lot of information including for hamradio: https://picsat.obspm.fr/ [ANS thanks Christophe Mercier, AMSAT-F President for the ?above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Announces the Rover Award On January 1, 2018, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director Contests and Awards announced the Rover Award. This award is granted to stations who achieve a combined 25 points using any combination of the defined criteria posted at: https://www.amsat.org/amsat-rover-award/ Points can be earned for each grid square activated outside of your home grid square using the FM, linear, and digital satellites. While FM contacts count for 1 point each multiplier points are available for contacts via the linear and digital satellites. Additional points are available for photographs, publicity, social media promotion, and AMSAT Journal articles. The options are numerous so please refer to the Rover Award Website for all of the details. Bruce is also asking for your help to design a certificate that helps show what a rover is. He would like some photos of? a rover station, rover antennas, anything that would be really neat on? the certificate. Now that everyone knows what the award is and has had a bit of time to look it over, we need your help. I would like to design a certificate that helps show what a rover is. Therefore, I would like some photos of a rover station, rover antennas, anything that would be really neat on the certificate. (the photos cannot show anyone's callsign, cannot show anyone in the picture that makes them identifiable.) Send your photos to bruce via kk5do at amsat.org Bruce will take submissions for until January 19. After this date he will post the pictures on the AMSAT website for members to choose the two, three, or four pictures? and after the two weeks, we will place the pix on the AMSAT website and let the AMSAT members choose the two, three or four pictures that they think reflect the best of roving. [ANS thanks AMSAT Director Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, ?for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Second Annual CW Activity Day Wrap Up Ray, W2RS, wrote, "Many thanks to all who participated in AMSAT's second annual CW Activity Day on OSCAR, held in memory of Pat Gowen, G3IOR. We didn't ask for logs to be submitted, so we obviously have no figures, but activity seemed up significantly from last year. I worked two all-time new stations (new for me, that is) on FO-29, as well as some old friends. CU on CW in 2018, and of course in AMSAT's third annual CW Activity Day, same time next year." [ANS thanks Ray, W2RS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-UK Reporting on a Chinese Launch With Five 6U Cubesats A launch from China's Jiuquan Space Center on a CZ-11 on January 17 will fly Hunan Amateur Radio Society's constellation of five similar 6U CubeSat spacecraft intended to: 1.Carry out synchronous ionospheric transmission detection ? experiments based on multi-satellite and multi-band with ? the same GPS time base. 2.Carry out amateur HF/VHF/UHF re-transmitting experiments ? in any narrow-band mode. 3.Carry out communications experiments between inter-satellite ? amateur loads, LIFI high-speed digital downlink and CW lamp ? signal communication experiments. 4. Planned downlinks on 437.5 MHz using 9k6 GMSK and on 2.4 GHz ? and 5.8 GHz using 5Mbps OFDM. The IARU says these frequencies have been coordinated: Cubesat??????????????????????????? Uplink/Downlink ------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- ? TY2?? 435.350 MHz / 2403.000 MHz / 5833.000 MHz down / 5653.000 MHz up ? TY3?? 435.875 MHz / 2406.000 MHz / 5836.000 MHz down / 5656.000 MHz up ? TY4?? 435.925 MHz / 2409.000 MHz / 5839.000 MHz down / 5659.000 MHz up ? TY5?? 436.025 MHz / 2412.000 MHz / 5842.000 MHz down / 5665.000 MHz up ? TY6?? 436.100 MHz / 2415.000 MHz / 5845.000 MHz down / 5667.000 MHz up Additional information can be found at: http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=556 https://www.chinaspaceflight.com/satellite/Changsha-Tianyi/TY-2-3-4-5.html [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and the IARU for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Volunteer Opportunity - Openings for News Service Rotating Editor If you're open to volunteering to help AMSAT this is your chance! We have openings for a few volunteers willing to help as an AMSAT News Service editor. Our editors work on a rotating schedule with each taking turns as the current week's news editor. Using input received from members, the amateur radio community, officers, plus our other editors your job is to assemble the AMSAT News Service bulletin for your week. (Template is provided to help you format the message.) If you can help contact our Senior News Service Editor, Lee McLamb, KT4TZ via his e-mail: kt4tz at amsat.org [ANS thanks the AMSAT News Service for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT South Africa and SARL Hosting January 20 SDR Workshop SARL and AMSAT SA will be holding another SDR workshop at the National Amateur Radio Centre from 09:00 - 13:00 CAT on Saturday 20 January 2018. The objective of the workshop is to review the application of SDR dongles and the various software packages made available at pre- vious workshops. Anton Janovsky ZR6AIC will be on hand to assist with any technical difficulties. There will be a discussion of the HF Noise monitoring system and the setting up of a server to store the data. AMSAT SA will present a brief update on Kletskous. The cost of the workshop is R50 for SARL and AMSAT SA members and R100 for non-members. Light refreshments will be served. For details and registration visit www.amsatsa.org.za [ANS thanks SARL weekly news in English 2018-1-6 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- New Grid Master Awarded Rick, WA4NVM and Damon, WA4HFN have teamed up to promote the use of amateur satellites and support AMSAT North America with a series of awards for satellite operators. On January 1 Damon announced, "Congrats to Fernando, NP4JV for earning Grid Master Award #7". The Grid Master Award is given for confirmed satellite contacts with all 488 U.S. Grids. Previous Grid Master award winners include: #1 John???? K8YSE??? 5/16/2014 #2 Doug???? KD8CAO? 12/15/2014 #3 Rick???? WA4NVM?? 4/26/2015 #4 Glenn??? AA5PK??? 8/22/2017 #5 Clayton? W5PFG??? 9/14/2017 #6 Al?????? XE2AT??? 11/03/2017 In addition to the Grid Master award Rick and Damon also sponsor these satellite operating awards: + Got Grids Award - for 1 satellite contact in each of the ? 10 maiden head grids blocks in the US + 5 in EM55 Award - for 5 satellite contacts with operators ? in EM55 + These awards are available at no cost but Rick and Damon request ? you make a donation to AMSAT-NA. For more information visit their web site: http://www.squirtthebirds.com [ANS thanks Damon, WA4HFN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- NASA on the Air Events to Highlight Key Space Milestones by Bob Granath - Dec. 1, 2017 NASA's Kennedy Space Center, Florida http://tinyurl.com/ANS-344-NASAEvent NASA is known for communicating with astronauts on missions to space, but regular citizens can radio NASA centers across the country. From the end of this year through the next, NASA will mark several key milestones. Amateur radio clubs at agency centers across the nation plan to celebrate these occasions with several "NASA on the Air" events. "We enjoy sharing NASA's story as part of the fun of making contact with fellow ham radio operators across the nation and around the world," said Kevin Zari, who is activities officer for the Amateur Radio Club at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. "We occasionally communicate with people who think that because we're not flying the space shuttle anymore, NASA has almost gone out of business. We tell them about activities such as the Inter- national Space Station and the Space Launch System, and they appreciate the update." Amateur, or ham, radio operators use a frequency spectrum for communicating noncommercial and private messages. One of the most important uses of ham radio operations is providing emer- gency messaging following disasters, such as the recent Hurricane Maria that destroyed most avenues of communication in Puerto Rico. "The amateur radio clubs at NASA centers are made up of civil servants, contractors and tenants who participate on their own time," said Zari, who has been at Kennedy since 1990 and is chief technology officer in the Mission and Support Office of Exploration Research and Technology Programs. "We all have a common goal to show our support for NASA and highlight some of the agency's amazing accomplishments." Zari added that he hopes, if time permits, International Space Station astronauts can participate using ham radio equipment aboard the orbit- ing laboratory 225 miles above the Earth, made possible by the Amateur Radio on International Space Station (ARISS) Program. Amateur radio has even been part of NASA space flights since Shuttle Amateur Radio operations started in 1983. The plan is to talk about these anniversaries and their place in the history of NASA, explains Rob Suggs, who is the secretary of the amateur radio club at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. "We also want people to know what we are doing now and what's coming up in the near future," he said. "This includes the Commercial Crew Program, as well as plans to send astronauts beyond low-Earth orbit with the Space Launch System and Orion." "We plan to publicize the "NASA on the Air" events in amateur radio magazines, on our Facebook site and web page," said Suggs who has worked for NASA since 1994 and is the Space Environments Team lead at Marshall. Zari added that they plan to use the hashtag #NOTA when announcing events on Twitter (@NASAradioClubs). While NASA amateur radio stations are commemorating historic mile- stones, Zari explains they also are making it into a contest. "Ham radio enthusiasts usually exchange QSL cards," he said. "When you make contact with someone, you exchange a postcard noting the contact was made. For this yearlong event, some clubs at NASA centers are offering commemorative QSL cards and a special certi- ficate indicating how many centers a participant contacted on various frequency bands." QSL cards serve as written confirmation of communication between amateur radio stations. QSL derived its name from the Q, or question, code message: "QSL?" It simply means, "Do you confirm receipt of my transmission?" According to Suggs, points will be awarded to each center's amateur radio club based on the number of contacts made during the yearlong event. Participants can enhance their award by using one of the existing capabilities of amateur radio on the space station such as packet (digital operations) or listening in to an astronaut giving answers to school children during one of the scheduled school contacts. No special activity is planned from the station and only one activity from the space station is needed to qualify. "We plan to have a web-based system for participants to check their points total and download a printable certificate at the end of the event," he said. "Points will be awarded for each center's contacts." Learn more about the "NASA on the Air" events at: http://nasaontheair.wordpress.com 'NASA on the Air' Events - Milestones coming up between Dec. 11, 2017 and Dec. 27, 2018, will include: + 45th anniversary of Apollo 17, Dec. 12-19, 1972 + 60th anniversary of the establishment of NASA, Oct. 1, 1958 + 20th anniversary of the launch of the first U.S. element of the ? International Space Station during STS-88, commanded by Kennedy's ? Director Bob Cabana, Dec. 4-16, 1998 + 50th anniversary of Apollo 8, the flight of Frank Borman, Jim ? Lovell and Bill Anders to orbit the Moon, Dec. 21-27, 1968 [ANS thanks NASA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + AMSAT's Michelle Thompson, W5NYV was interviewed on the January 1 ? podcast of Ham Radio Workbench to discuss the AMSAT Phase 4B pro- ? gram and her role in leading the Ground Station team. Listen to ? the podcast at: http://hamradio360.com/index.php/podcast-player/ ? (Michelle's interview starts at approximately 1:00:00 point - you ? can enjoy the entire 2 hour podcast or fast forward to the ? interview). + Felix, EA4GQS says the January 2018 AMSAR-EA newsletter is ? available for download from: https://t.co/uJ3O4mNWsB + Alex, OZ9AEC, reports that Gpredict 2.2 has been released. https://community.libre.space/t/gpredict-2-2-released/1577 to ? read about the latest improvements and find links to source code ? and instruction manuals. + The Jet Propulsion Lab has published an educational project which ? may be of interest to hams also pursuing amateur astronomy. Have ? you ever wondered when the next full moon will be? How about the ? first quarter moon? Now you can have all the dates and times for ? all the moon phases for the year at your fingertips by building ? your own Moon Phases Calendar and Calculator: ? http://tinyurl.com/ANS-007-NASA-MoonPhases + A 9-ton Chinese space lab will fall out of the sky soon ? and ? if you predict exactly when, you can win some swag. The Aerospace ? Corp.'s Center for Orbital and Reentry Debris Studies (CORDS) is ? sponsoring a guessing game about the death day of China's uncrewed ? Tiangong-1 spacecraft, which is currently forecast to plunge ? uncontrolled into Earth's atmosphere in mid-March, plus or minus ? two weeks. If you pick the correct day ? or if you're closer than ? anyone else ? you'll win some Aerospace Corp. booty. To play, go ? to the CORDS site in the article posted at: ? http://tinyurl.com/ANS-007-ChickenLittleContest + The UK's Goonhilly radio telescope will be featured on a Great ? British Railway Journeys program on BBC2. Brian, G4NNS operating ? his station to "talk to the moon" and hear his echos coming back ? will be shown on Friday, January 12, 2018 at 1830 UTC. The pro- ? gramming schedule is posted at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00xgqxy/broadcasts/upcoming --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73 and Happy New Year, This week's ANS Editor, JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM k9jkm at amsat dot org From kk5do at arrl.net Sat Jan 6 21:10:02 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 15:10:02 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Rover Award Message-ID: <8add2fcb-d4a8-937f-8380-dbd57fbb51a1@arrl.net> Congrats to the first two submissions for the Rover Award. #001 to Wyatt, AC0RA #002 to Patrick, WD9EWK Who will be next? I have started receiving some really nice pictures for the certificate. Should be a great certificate when we get it ready. Stay tuned. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Sun Jan 7 23:30:59 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 23:30:59 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Warehouse Message-ID: Hi Just had an email from my ISP to say that they have had to do an emergency repair of the host that runs the warehouse. I am away from good internet access at the moment. Will bring services back online in the morning. Dashboards will pick up where they were when they lost contact as soon as the warehouse comes up again 73 Dave Sent from my iPhone From rico.van.genugten at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 10:01:48 2018 From: rico.van.genugten at gmail.com (Rico van Genugten) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:01:48 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation Message-ID: Hi all, I'm slowly assembling my satellite base station setup bit by bit, I have recently mounted an antenna system on my roof consisting of two perpendicular VHF/UHF open-sleeve yagi's mounted at a fixed elevation of 25 degrees on an azimuth rotator, more info here: https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/942710621375815680 So I have two feed lines coming into the house, both suitable for VHF and UHF operation. I want to be able to independently select one of the two antennas for RX and TX. This can be realized using two diplexers and two switches, but now for the million dollar question: Which diplexer? I'm curious to know which diplexers you guys use if you use them, and which can be recommended in terms of insertion loss, VSWR and isolation. If you believe the manufacturer specifications they are all great, but I'm more interested in real life performance or test measurements. 73, Rico PA3RVG From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Mon Jan 8 15:02:30 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:02:30 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Nayif-1 Warehouse Operational Again Message-ID: <949B2228-9603-44ED-B49E-45998FBFE800@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi, The data service a UI are now operating again and the Dashboards are catching up (including the scores). Feedback from the ISP is that the fix was to overcome the INTEL security hole. The FUNcube warehouse will undergo a similar upgrade. I will let you know when it's going to happen. 73 Dave, G4DPZ From kk4oyj at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 15:34:51 2018 From: kk4oyj at gmail.com (John, 9H5G) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 10:34:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Roving in FL13, 12, 22 Message-ID: <6DF0E1E9-CAC0-4FA9-B8B5-30433DD3DD13@gmail.com> I?ll be leaving FL23 tomorrow morning for FL13. I hope to be active on @AMSAT FM passes in the afternoon and evening and will attempt Falconsat3 also. The following day I will be active en-route to FL12 and FL22 where I hope to be active for some days 73 de John, C6ATS From wa7dxz at aol.com Mon Jan 8 16:09:08 2018 From: wa7dxz at aol.com (wa7dxz at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:09:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] I did it! 1st QSO Message-ID: <160d6885744-171c-172fc@webjas-vac081.srv.aolmail.net> Thanks to KC7MG as my first FO-29/satellite QSO in recent years! Also K4FEG and KL1XI for numbers two and three. Finally got the right down link freq dialed in, duh. Now to get the AZ-EL rotor up. The TS-2000 at 8 watts worked FB, and I guess the little ELK pulled them in. Now to get the IC-910 on the air so I have tones. When I bought the TS-2000, I didn't know it didn't have tones in the SAT mode. Have to figure a work around for that, maybe use it in non SAT mode. Thanks, guys, made my day! 73 Bob wa7dxz DM33 From kk4oyj at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 16:16:40 2018 From: kk4oyj at gmail.com (John, 9H5G) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:16:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Roving in FL13, 12, 22 Message-ID: <215AB5BF-B23F-4984-A6BD-A0A10AE5D823@gmail.com> I?ll be leaving FL23 tomorrow morning for FL13. I hope to be active on @AMSAT FM passes in the afternoon and evening and will attempt Falconsat3 also. The following day I will be active en-route to FL12 and FL22 where I hope to be active for some days 73 de John, C6ATS From pedro at dutrasousa.name Mon Jan 8 16:25:12 2018 From: pedro at dutrasousa.name (Pedro Dutra Sousa) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:25:12 -0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] I did it! 1st QSO In-Reply-To: <160d6885744-171c-172fc@webjas-vac081.srv.aolmail.net> References: <160d6885744-171c-172fc@webjas-vac081.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Hi, Congratulations on the QSOs. I have a TS-2000 using tones in SAT mode. The trick is to have the tone set in a SAT memory. The small T will show up on the left VFO (receiving) but it?ll be using in the uplink. 73 Pedro CU2ZG Sent from my iPhone Please excuse any typos or briefness > On 8 Jan 2018, at 15:09, Bob Lucas via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > Thanks to KC7MG as my first FO-29/satellite QSO in recent years! Also K4FEG and KL1XI for numbers two and three. > > Finally got the right down link freq dialed in, duh. > Now to get the AZ-EL rotor up. The TS-2000 at 8 watts worked FB, and I guess the little ELK pulled them in. > > Now to get the IC-910 on the air so I have tones. When I bought the TS-2000, I didn't know it didn't have tones in the SAT mode. Have to figure a work around for that, maybe use it in non SAT mode. > > Thanks, guys, made my day! > 73 > Bob wa7dxz > DM33 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 17:17:30 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 12:17:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] K8YAH SK In-Reply-To: <606933157.1261453.1515191890676@mail.yahoo.com> References: <606933157.1261453.1515191890676.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <606933157.1261453.1515191890676@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Very sad to hear this. Thanks for telling us. 73s Bob N4HY On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Perry Yantis wrote: > Ron Vanke K8YAH is now a silent key.Ron was very active on the satellites > for many years.Ronald Vanke's Obituary on The Columbus Dispatch > Perry WB8OTH > > py41 at att.net > sent from my Apple Macbook Pro > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From marklhammond at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 18:43:26 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 13:43:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] I did it! 1st QSO In-Reply-To: <160d6885744-171c-172fc@webjas-vac081.srv.aolmail.net> References: <160d6885744-171c-172fc@webjas-vac081.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Hi, Congrats on the contact, and welcome to your new addiction ;) I swear there is/was a firmware update to the TS-2000 that fixed the tone/satellite mode issue. Check the firmware webpage at Kenwood. Mark N8MH On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Bob Lucas via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Thanks to KC7MG as my first FO-29/satellite QSO in recent years! Also > K4FEG and KL1XI for numbers two and three. > > Finally got the right down link freq dialed in, duh. > Now to get the AZ-EL rotor up. The TS-2000 at 8 watts worked FB, and I > guess the little ELK pulled them in. > > Now to get the IC-910 on the air so I have tones. When I bought the > TS-2000, I didn't know it didn't have tones in the SAT mode. Have to > figure a work around for that, maybe use it in non SAT mode. > > Thanks, guys, made my day! > 73 > Bob wa7dxz > DM33 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From les at highnoonfilm.com Mon Jan 8 19:09:08 2018 From: les at highnoonfilm.com (Les Rayburn) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 13:09:08 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] GPerdict, Icom IC-910H, and Windows 10 Message-ID: <01F1FD4A-0211-4B64-9B1C-BB24F157A51B@highnoonfilm.com> I?m working to get back on the satellites and have SatPC32 restored and working thanks to the generous donation of Doppler.SQR and Subtone files from a couple of list members. Many thanks for that. All efforts to restore Nova for Windows have failed so far. On both my Windows 10 machines, the software refuses to run?even after loading the ?patch? program. Shame?I love the ability to ?fast forward? in time and visualize upcoming passes on Nova. If anyone has any thoughts on how to make it work on Windows 10, I?d love to hear them. I?ve also downloaded the Windows version of GPredict software, and am very impressed with the platform, with one major exception. The ability to add new satellites, edit visualization, etc. is first rate, but the rig control options are frustrating. http://gpredict.oz9aec.net So far, I?ve been unable to successfully get the software to control my Icom IC-910H. Has anyone else tried this software with the IC-910H? Anyone have it working correctly? 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-1 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song?? From g.shirville at btinternet.com Mon Jan 8 19:19:10 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 19:19:10 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] GPerdict, Icom IC-910H, and Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <01F1FD4A-0211-4B64-9B1C-BB24F157A51B@highnoonfilm.com> References: <01F1FD4A-0211-4B64-9B1C-BB24F157A51B@highnoonfilm.com> Message-ID: <6102914b-8c3e-55be-2a08-e99fae935a63@btinternet.com> Hi Les, Nova certainly works ok for me on various W10 machines. From memory you should run it as administrator (right click on the prog) and also right click on it and run the Troubleshoot Compatibility... I think you select W7 compatibility but try experimenting good luck Graham G3VZV On 08/01/2018 19:09, Les Rayburn wrote: > I?m working to get back on the satellites and have SatPC32 restored and working thanks to the generous donation of Doppler.SQR and Subtone files from a couple of list members. Many thanks for that. > > All efforts to restore Nova for Windows have failed so far. On both my Windows 10 machines, the software refuses to run?even after loading the ?patch? program. Shame?I love the ability to ?fast forward? in time and visualize upcoming passes on Nova. If anyone has any thoughts on how to make it work on Windows 10, I?d love to hear them. > > I?ve also downloaded the Windows version of GPredict software, and am very impressed with the platform, with one major exception. The ability to add new satellites, edit visualization, etc. is first rate, but the rig control options are frustrating. > > http://gpredict.oz9aec.net > > So far, I?ve been unable to successfully get the software to control my Icom IC-910H. Has anyone else tried this software with the IC-910H? Anyone have it working correctly? > > > > > 73, > > Les Rayburn, N1LF > 121 Mayfair Park > Maylene, AL 35114 > EM63nf > > Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. > > Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-1 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, > Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. > > ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song?? > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From philji at mac.com Mon Jan 8 20:41:26 2018 From: philji at mac.com (Phillip Lontz) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2018 13:41:26 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] The AO 91 sure works well... Message-ID: <66A6161A-30EF-42E3-B9C6-323550D0F7D9@mac.com> K5SSR here at DM75 in Santa FE,NM? I have been making QSO using my dual band Diamond Vert antenna and the Kenwood 710. It works OK. I have a proper M2 LEO antenna system with the Yeasu rotators in the garage waiting for some nice sunny wx to dig a hole and set it up? And does anyone know the price of the new Icon multi band multi mode radio??? Thanks for the contacts today Phil K5SSR DM75 Santa Fe, NM From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 21:19:13 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 13:19:13 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rico, So, two questions: First, what are you planning to use for your radio(s)? I'm a bit puzzled by the need to swap Tx and Rx connections, if you are using a diplexer. And, most of the satellite operations I do involve either two separate radios, or a satellite radio that has separate VHF and UHF antenna connections. In those cases, you'd not need the diplexer at all, since the purpose of a diplexer is to use one feed line to cover two antennas. Could you share your "two diplexers and two switches" diagram? Second, that's a really cool antenna that you have built. Are the plans available online somewhere? Greg KO6TH Rico van Genugten wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm slowly assembling my satellite base station setup bit by bit, I have > recently mounted an antenna system on my roof consisting of two > perpendicular VHF/UHF open-sleeve yagi's mounted at a fixed elevation of 25 > degrees on an azimuth rotator, more info here: > https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/942710621375815680 > > So I have two feed lines coming into the house, both suitable for VHF and > UHF operation. I want to be able to independently select one of the two > antennas for RX and TX. This can be realized using two diplexers and two > switches, but now for the million dollar question: Which diplexer? > > I'm curious to know which diplexers you guys use if you use them, and which > can be recommended in terms of insertion loss, VSWR and isolation. If you > believe the manufacturer specifications they are all great, but I'm more > interested in real life performance or test measurements. > > 73, > Rico > PA3RVG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Mon Jan 8 21:33:06 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 16:33:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Listening for QIKCOM-1? Message-ID: Anyone looking for something to do with a gain array, might want to track the SIMPL spacecraft while listening on 145.825. This is the host spacecraft that has QIKCOM-1 module on board. The SIMPL ground team reports detecting some S band signals apparently from SIMPL. So that is an indication that maybe the spacecraft powered up. That being the case, then maybe it powered up QIKCOM-1 also. But if the host CPU did not send the antenna release signal, then QIKCOM-1 may be powered up but with antennas all coiled up and still in their slot. But high gain stations might hear something. This is a far fetched scenario, but if someone is looking for something to do, its worth a listen. The object number is 42983 or type SIMPL in spacetrack. QIKCOM-1 beacons once a minute on 145.825 APRS 1200 baud and should respond as a digipeater using the path of ARISS or APRSAT. So rather than wait for the 1 minute beacon, you are welcome to ping it as well. But remember, like all APRS digis, it will ignore dupes for a while. I think the DUP delay was set to ten seconds. And even if you do not decode it, if your 10 kW EIRP signal can get a PING response every 10 seconds or so, then that would be something you might hear. QIKCOM-1 transmits with 4 Watts. But into a shorted antenna, the signal might be down 26 dB or more? something like 10 mw. Not decodable, but detectible by ear maybe. Good luck fishing. Bob, WB4aPR From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 21:50:03 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 16:50:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] GPerdict, Icom IC-910H, and Windows 10 In-Reply-To: <01F1FD4A-0211-4B64-9B1C-BB24F157A51B@highnoonfilm.com> References: <01F1FD4A-0211-4B64-9B1C-BB24F157A51B@highnoonfilm.com> Message-ID: SatPC32 will allow you to visualize upcoming passes. The function is called "Preview." It's under Tracking on the top menu bar: http://www.dk1tb.de/manual_e.htm#preview 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Jan 8, 2018 2:11 PM, "Les Rayburn" wrote: > I?m working to get back on the satellites and have SatPC32 restored and > working thanks to the generous donation of Doppler.SQR and Subtone files > from a couple of list members. Many thanks for that. > > All efforts to restore Nova for Windows have failed so far. On both my > Windows 10 machines, the software refuses to run?even after loading the > ?patch? program. Shame?I love the ability to ?fast forward? in time and > visualize upcoming passes on Nova. If anyone has any thoughts on how to > make it work on Windows 10, I?d love to hear them. > > I?ve also downloaded the Windows version of GPredict software, and am very > impressed with the platform, with one major exception. The ability to add > new satellites, edit visualization, etc. is first rate, but the rig control > options are frustrating. > > http://gpredict.oz9aec.net > > So far, I?ve been unable to successfully get the software to control my > Icom IC-910H. Has anyone else tried this software with the IC-910H? Anyone > have it working correctly? > > > > > 73, > > Les Rayburn, N1LF > 121 Mayfair Park > Maylene, AL 35114 > EM63nf > > Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. > > Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-1 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon > TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, > Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, > Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. > > ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song?? > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 22:04:15 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 14:04:15 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> Message-ID: <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> But he has two cables going into the antenna (you can see them in the picture). I'm guessing by his hashtags that one of the radios is an RTLSDR dongle, so I can see the need for two cables and the switching from one "rig" to the other. Presuming the other radio is not full-duplex. Perhaps the answer is to use 4 switches. One pair for the rigs, the other for the antennas. Hook one side of the switched side directly through, the other cross-connected. Just remember to set all 4 switches properly before transmitting! Greg KO6TH Brad Brooks wrote: > I reckon the duplexer is required as there is no direct connections to > the 70cm antenna. > > Brad WF7T > > On Jan 8, 2018, 3:20 PM -0600, Greg D , wrote: >> Hi Rico, >> >> So, two questions: >> >> First, what are you planning to use for your radio(s)? I'm a bit >> puzzled by the need to swap Tx and Rx connections, if you are using a >> diplexer. And, most of the satellite operations I do involve either two >> separate radios, or a satellite radio that has separate VHF and UHF >> antenna connections. In those cases, you'd not need the diplexer at >> all, since the purpose of a diplexer is to use one feed line to cover >> two antennas. Could you share your "two diplexers and two switches" >> diagram? >> >> Second, that's a really cool antenna that you have built. Are the plans >> available online somewhere? >> >> Greg KO6TH >> >> >> Rico van Genugten wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm slowly assembling my satellite base station setup bit by bit, I have >>> recently mounted an antenna system on my roof consisting of two >>> perpendicular VHF/UHF open-sleeve yagi's mounted at a fixed >>> elevation of 25 >>> degrees on an azimuth rotator, more info here: >>> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/942710621375815680 >>> >>> So I have two feed lines coming into the house, both suitable for >>> VHF and >>> UHF operation. I want to be able to independently select one of the two >>> antennas for RX and TX. This can be realized using two diplexers and two >>> switches, but now for the million dollar question: Which diplexer? >>> >>> I'm curious to know which diplexers you guys use if you use them, >>> and which >>> can be recommended in terms of insertion loss, VSWR and isolation. >>> If you >>> believe the manufacturer specifications they are all great, but I'm more >>> interested in real life performance or test measurements. >>> >>> 73, >>> Rico >>> PA3RVG >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >>> views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pavelmc at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 22:21:32 2018 From: pavelmc at gmail.com (Pavel Milanes) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 17:21:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wouxun / Powerwerx KG-UV8E / KG-UV8T as full duplex FM sat handheld? Message-ID: <95f478d7-65b8-b841-ae03-4753daf61c20@gmail.com> Hi. Has any tested the Wouxun KG-UV8E or the Powerwerx KG-UV8T (It's the same radio) as a full duplex FM radio for satellite work? This is advertised as full duplex radios V/U & U/V... Tip: this are Wouxun KG-UV8D Plus cousins but tri-banders with 222 Mhz. My Baofeng UV-5R is useless on 70m cm RX no matter what I do to protect it from the 2m TX... -- 73 CO7WT, Pavel. From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Jan 8 22:24:53 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 17:24:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wouxun / Powerwerx KG-UV8E / KG-UV8T as full duplex FM sat handheld? In-Reply-To: <95f478d7-65b8-b841-ae03-4753daf61c20@gmail.com> References: <95f478d7-65b8-b841-ae03-4753daf61c20@gmail.com> Message-ID: Pavel, Unfortunately you will find that it will desense when transmitting on 2 meters and receiving on 70 cm, but may be OK for transmitting on 70 cm while receiving on 2 meters. I think WD9EWK has tested one. Perhaps he can provide some first-hand experience of how it performs. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Pavel Milanes wrote: > Hi. > > Has any tested the Wouxun KG-UV8E or the Powerwerx KG-UV8T (It's the same > radio) as a full duplex FM radio for satellite work? > > This is advertised as full duplex radios V/U & U/V... > > Tip: this are Wouxun KG-UV8D Plus cousins but tri-banders with 222 Mhz. > > My Baofeng UV-5R is useless on 70m cm RX no matter what I do to protect it > from the 2m TX... > > > -- > 73 CO7WT, Pavel. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pierros at papadeas.gr Tue Jan 9 01:12:15 2018 From: pierros at papadeas.gr (Pierros Papadeas) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 03:12:15 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Listening for QIKCOM-1? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Added the satellite in SatNOGS DB and scheduled some observations on our network's best stations: https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?norad=42983 Crossing fingers! ~pierros On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:33 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > Anyone looking for something to do with a gain array, might want to track > the SIMPL spacecraft while listening on 145.825. > > > > This is the host spacecraft that has QIKCOM-1 module on board. > > > > The SIMPL ground team reports detecting some S band signals apparently from > SIMPL. So that is an indication that maybe the spacecraft powered up. > That being the case, then maybe it powered up QIKCOM-1 also. But if the > host CPU did not send the antenna release signal, then QIKCOM-1 may be > powered up but with antennas all coiled up and still in their slot. > > > > But high gain stations might hear something. This is a far fetched > scenario, but if someone is looking for something to do, its worth a > listen. The object number is > > 42983 or type SIMPL in spacetrack. > > > > QIKCOM-1 beacons once a minute on 145.825 APRS 1200 baud and should respond > as a digipeater using the path of ARISS or APRSAT. So rather than wait for > the 1 minute beacon, you are welcome to ping it as well. But remember, > like all APRS digis, it will ignore dupes for a while. I think the DUP > delay was set to ten seconds. > > > > And even if you do not decode it, if your 10 kW EIRP signal can get a PING > response every 10 seconds or so, then that would be something you might > hear. > > > > QIKCOM-1 transmits with 4 Watts. But into a shorted antenna, the signal > might be down 26 dB or more? something like 10 mw. Not decodable, but > detectible by ear maybe. > > > > Good luck fishing. > > > > Bob, WB4aPR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Pierros Papadeas http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 21:39:35 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:39:35 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> I reckon the duplexer is required as there is no direct connections to the 70cm antenna. Brad WF7T On Jan 8, 2018, 3:20 PM -0600, Greg D , wrote: > Hi Rico, > > So, two questions: > > First, what are you planning to use for your radio(s)? I'm a bit > puzzled by the need to swap Tx and Rx connections, if you are using a > diplexer. And, most of the satellite operations I do involve either two > separate radios, or a satellite radio that has separate VHF and UHF > antenna connections. In those cases, you'd not need the diplexer at > all, since the purpose of a diplexer is to use one feed line to cover > two antennas. Could you share your "two diplexers and two switches" > diagram? > > Second, that's a really cool antenna that you have built. Are the plans > available online somewhere? > > Greg KO6TH > > > Rico van Genugten wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm slowly assembling my satellite base station setup bit by bit, I have > > recently mounted an antenna system on my roof consisting of two > > perpendicular VHF/UHF open-sleeve yagi's mounted at a fixed elevation of 25 > > degrees on an azimuth rotator, more info here: > > https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/942710621375815680 > > > > So I have two feed lines coming into the house, both suitable for VHF and > > UHF operation. I want to be able to independently select one of the two > > antennas for RX and TX. This can be realized using two diplexers and two > > switches, but now for the million dollar question: Which diplexer? > > > > I'm curious to know which diplexers you guys use if you use them, and which > > can be recommended in terms of insertion loss, VSWR and isolation. If you > > believe the manufacturer specifications they are all great, but I'm more > > interested in real life performance or test measurements. > > > > 73, > > Rico > > PA3RVG > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Tue Jan 9 08:37:21 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 00:37:21 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Listening for QIKCOM-1? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't have a super high-gain antenna (2x8 element CP beam on 2 meters, with a preamp), but nothing heard during the 08:26z pass (00:26am local). Does it matter if the spacecraft is in sunlight or not? Nearly all the passes here are at night... Greg KO6TH Robert Bruninga wrote: > Anyone looking for something to do with a gain array, might want to track > the SIMPL spacecraft while listening on 145.825. > > > > This is the host spacecraft that has QIKCOM-1 module on board. > > > > The SIMPL ground team reports detecting some S band signals apparently from > SIMPL. So that is an indication that maybe the spacecraft powered up. > That being the case, then maybe it powered up QIKCOM-1 also. But if the > host CPU did not send the antenna release signal, then QIKCOM-1 may be > powered up but with antennas all coiled up and still in their slot. > > > > But high gain stations might hear something. This is a far fetched > scenario, but if someone is looking for something to do, its worth a > listen. The object number is > > 42983 or type SIMPL in spacetrack. > > > > QIKCOM-1 beacons once a minute on 145.825 APRS 1200 baud and should respond > as a digipeater using the path of ARISS or APRSAT. So rather than wait for > the 1 minute beacon, you are welcome to ping it as well. But remember, > like all APRS digis, it will ignore dupes for a while. I think the DUP > delay was set to ten seconds. > > > > And even if you do not decode it, if your 10 kW EIRP signal can get a PING > response every 10 seconds or so, then that would be something you might > hear. > > > > QIKCOM-1 transmits with 4 Watts. But into a shorted antenna, the signal > might be down 26 dB or more? something like 10 mw. Not decodable, but > detectible by ear maybe. > > > > Good luck fishing. > > > > Bob, WB4aPR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rico.van.genugten at gmail.com Tue Jan 9 09:42:28 2018 From: rico.van.genugten at gmail.com (Rico van Genugten) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:42:28 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer for RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm currently doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the other for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX when that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select which antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the connection scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I have heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not great in Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? Regards, Rico On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:04 PM, Greg D wrote: > But he has two cables going into the antenna (you can see them in the > picture). > > I'm guessing by his hashtags that one of the radios is an RTLSDR dongle, > so I can see the need for two cables and the switching from one "rig" to > the other. Presuming the other radio is not full-duplex. > > Perhaps the answer is to use 4 switches. One pair for the rigs, the > other for the antennas. Hook one side of the switched side directly > through, the other cross-connected. Just remember to set all 4 switches > properly before transmitting! > > Greg KO6TH > > > Brad Brooks wrote: > > I reckon the duplexer is required as there is no direct connections to > > the 70cm antenna. > > > > Brad WF7T > > > > On Jan 8, 2018, 3:20 PM -0600, Greg D , wrote: > >> Hi Rico, > >> > >> So, two questions: > >> > >> First, what are you planning to use for your radio(s)? I'm a bit > >> puzzled by the need to swap Tx and Rx connections, if you are using a > >> diplexer. And, most of the satellite operations I do involve either two > >> separate radios, or a satellite radio that has separate VHF and UHF > >> antenna connections. In those cases, you'd not need the diplexer at > >> all, since the purpose of a diplexer is to use one feed line to cover > >> two antennas. Could you share your "two diplexers and two switches" > >> diagram? > >> > >> Second, that's a really cool antenna that you have built. Are the plans > >> available online somewhere? > >> > >> Greg KO6TH > >> > >> > >> Rico van Genugten wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I'm slowly assembling my satellite base station setup bit by bit, I > have > >>> recently mounted an antenna system on my roof consisting of two > >>> perpendicular VHF/UHF open-sleeve yagi's mounted at a fixed > >>> elevation of 25 > >>> degrees on an azimuth rotator, more info here: > >>> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/942710621375815680 > >>> > >>> So I have two feed lines coming into the house, both suitable for > >>> VHF and > >>> UHF operation. I want to be able to independently select one of the two > >>> antennas for RX and TX. This can be realized using two diplexers and > two > >>> switches, but now for the million dollar question: Which diplexer? > >>> > >>> I'm curious to know which diplexers you guys use if you use them, > >>> and which > >>> can be recommended in terms of insertion loss, VSWR and isolation. > >>> If you > >>> believe the manufacturer specifications they are all great, but I'm > more > >>> interested in real life performance or test measurements. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Rico > >>> PA3RVG > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>> Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > >>> views of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>> program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >> of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From les at highnoonfilm.com Tue Jan 9 10:21:18 2018 From: les at highnoonfilm.com (Les Rayburn) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 04:21:18 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] GPerdict, Icom IC-910H, and Windows 10 In-Reply-To: References: <01F1FD4A-0211-4B64-9B1C-BB24F157A51B@highnoonfilm.com> Message-ID: <2E319134-8801-473E-80F3-91FA61FB203B@highnoonfilm.com> Andre, After studying the manual today, I arrived at the same conclusion. I will need to use HamLib to control the radio. Unfortunately, it?s only available as 32 bit software, and my system is 64 bit. Still trying to see if I can find a workaround for that issue. Thank you for the nudge in the right direction. I?ve gotten a lot of support from the satellite community and I?m grateful. Made a contact on SO-50 today (first satellite contact in two years!) New grid in FN05. But discovered that my radio is near ?deaf? at the moment. Suspect a feed line issue, I?ll troubleshoot that once i have the software problems licked. 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-1 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song?? > On Jan 9, 2018, at 3:57 AM, Andr? L?faldli wrote: > > Hi Les, > > I'm using Gpredict with a 910H without problem, but it cannot (as far as I know) control hardware directly. > It is designed to use the rigctld and rotctld tools from Hamlib to control radios and rotors. > > See http://hamlib.sourceforge.net for details. > > 73, > Andr? LB1IH > > man. 8. jan. 2018 kl. 22:51 skrev John Brier >: > SatPC32 will allow you to visualize upcoming passes. The function is called > "Preview." It's under Tracking on the top menu bar: > > http://www.dk1tb.de/manual_e.htm#preview > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Jan 8, 2018 2:11 PM, "Les Rayburn" > wrote: > > > I?m working to get back on the satellites and have SatPC32 restored and > > working thanks to the generous donation of Doppler.SQR and Subtone files > > from a couple of list members. Many thanks for that. > > > > All efforts to restore Nova for Windows have failed so far. On both my > > Windows 10 machines, the software refuses to run?even after loading the > > ?patch? program. Shame?I love the ability to ?fast forward? in time and > > visualize upcoming passes on Nova. If anyone has any thoughts on how to > > make it work on Windows 10, I?d love to hear them. > > > > I?ve also downloaded the Windows version of GPredict software, and am very > > impressed with the platform, with one major exception. The ability to add > > new satellites, edit visualization, etc. is first rate, but the rig control > > options are frustrating. > > > > http://gpredict.oz9aec.net > > > > So far, I?ve been unable to successfully get the software to control my > > Icom IC-910H. Has anyone else tried this software with the IC-910H? Anyone > > have it working correctly? > > > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > Les Rayburn, N1LF > > 121 Mayfair Park > > Maylene, AL 35114 > > EM63nf > > > > Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. > > > > Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-1 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon > > TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, > > Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, > > Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. > > > > ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song?? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > -- > > Sent from my toaster From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Tue Jan 9 12:02:54 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 13:02:54 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] I did it! 1st QSO In-Reply-To: References: <160d6885744-171c-172fc@webjas-vac081.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <2c061431-8062-aff9-3bc8-0ccfd7521660@t-online.de> Mark, you are right. Kenwood fixed the sub tone issue in satellite mode with Revision 7 (January 2005) (my TS-2000 had the same issue. The firmware update fixed the problem). Congrats to Bob. 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 08.01.2018 um 19:43 schrieb Mark L. Hammond: > Hi, Congrats on the contact, and welcome to your new addiction ;) > > I swear there is/was a firmware update to the TS-2000 that fixed the > tone/satellite mode issue. Check the firmware webpage at Kenwood. > > Mark N8MH > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Bob Lucas via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> Thanks to KC7MG as my first FO-29/satellite QSO in recent years! Also >> K4FEG and KL1XI for numbers two and three. >> >> Finally got the right down link freq dialed in, duh. >> Now to get the AZ-EL rotor up. The TS-2000 at 8 watts worked FB, and I >> guess the little ELK pulled them in. >> >> Now to get the IC-910 on the air so I have tones. When I bought the >> TS-2000, I didn't know it didn't have tones in the SAT mode. Have to >> figure a work around for that, maybe use it in non SAT mode. >> >> Thanks, guys, made my day! >> 73 >> Bob wa7dxz >> DM33 >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From vimone at alice.it Tue Jan 9 12:59:07 2018 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 13:59:07 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000X RX @38k4 Baud Message-ID: Hello, I was a bit out of the world of radio due to the renovation of the house. In the meantime I took advantage of replacing my old Kenwood TS-790E with a new Kenwood TS-2000X. In the old TS-790, I had the Symek IFD card for receiving 38k4 baud satellites. I wanted to know if there are still satellites that still transmit at that speed and if it is worth inserting the TS-2000X card. Thank you 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ************************************* ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** ************************************* From vimone at alice.it Tue Jan 9 12:53:00 2018 From: vimone at alice.it (Vincenzo Mone) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 13:53:00 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000X RX @38k4 Baud Message-ID: Hello, I was a bit out of the world of radio due to the renovation of the house. In the meantime I took advantage of replacing my old Kenwood TS-790E with a new Kenwood TS-2000X. In the old TS-790, I had the Symek IFD card for receiving 38k4 baud satellites. I wanted to know if there are still satellites that still transmit at that speed and if it is worth inserting the TS-2000X card. Thank you 73's de Enzo IK8OZV EasyLog 5 BetaTester EasyLog PDA BetaTester WinBollet BetaTester D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania Skype: ik8ozv8520 ************************************* ******* GSM +39 328 7110193 ******* ****** SMS +39 328 7110193 ****** ************************************* From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Tue Jan 9 15:57:33 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 15:57:33 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> Message-ID: Rico, I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen or tried WiMo diplexers. One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be much better than Diamond's MX-72: http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text tells the story of this comparison. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer for > RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm currently > doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the other > for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX when > that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two > switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select which > antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the connection > scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): > https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 > > But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I have > heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not great in > Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? > > Regards, > Rico > > > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Tue Jan 9 16:03:33 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 16:03:33 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Wouxun / Powerwerx KG-UV8E / KG-UV8T as full duplex FM sat handheld? In-Reply-To: References: <95f478d7-65b8-b841-ae03-4753daf61c20@gmail.com> Message-ID: Paul and Pavel, I have not tried any of the tri-band versions of the KG-UV8D. Based on what I saw with the 2m/70cm version, I would not expect that the KG-UV8E or KG-UV8T (or whatever model number may be used in the future) would perform any better on FM satellites with a 2m uplink like SO-50. They would probably be OK for the Fox-1 FM satellites with 70cm uplinks like AO-85 and AO-91 working full-duplex, but I have not tested these newer KG-UV8D variants. For Wouxun radios, I like the KG-UV9D and UV9D Plus HTs for use with FM satellites. Newer model, better receiver than the previous Wouxun models. Not capable of full-duplex with SO-50, but do OK with AO-85 and AO-91. For SO-50, I either use the group of memory channels and work it half-duplex, or get a second radio for full-duplex. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Pavel, > > Unfortunately you will find that it will desense when transmitting on > 2 meters and receiving on 70 cm, but may be OK for transmitting on 70 > cm while receiving on 2 meters. > > I think WD9EWK has tested one. Perhaps he can provide some first-hand > experience of how it performs. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > From rico.van.genugten at gmail.com Tue Jan 9 16:16:26 2018 From: rico.van.genugten at gmail.com (Rico van Genugten) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:16:26 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, Thanks for the recommendation Patrick, I have contacted MFJ and hope they will ship a couple of them to the Netherlands. I have also contacted WiMo for some specs on their diplexers as they aren't available on their website, I will share them on this list when I receive them. 73, Rico PA3RVG On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > Rico, > > I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I > found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and > Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in > the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen > or tried WiMo diplexers. > > One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be > much better than Diamond's MX-72: > > http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ > > The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text > tells the story of this comparison. > > 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < > rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer for >> RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm currently >> doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the other >> for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX >> when >> that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two >> switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select which >> antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the >> connection >> scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): >> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 >> >> But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I have >> heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not great in >> Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? >> >> Regards, >> Rico >> >> >> From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Jan 9 16:20:39 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 11:20:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> Message-ID: Page 10 of PA1IVO's presentation at the 2011 AMSAT-UK Colloquium includes measurements of the Wimo Diplexer. It appears to have very good specs in general, though it looks like losses were measured at 1.45 dB at 436 MHz, which is a bit high. https://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/pa1ivo/doc/AmsatColloquium2011.pdf 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Rico van Genugten wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for the recommendation Patrick, I have contacted MFJ and hope they > will ship a couple of them to the Netherlands. I have also contacted WiMo > for some specs on their diplexers as they aren't available on their > website, I will share them on this list when I receive them. > > 73, > Rico PA3RVG > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < > amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > >> Rico, >> >> I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I >> found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and >> Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in >> the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen >> or tried WiMo diplexers. >> >> One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be >> much better than Diamond's MX-72: >> >> http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ >> >> The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text >> tells the story of this comparison. >> >> 73! >> >> >> >> >> >> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK >> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ >> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < >> rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer for >>> RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm currently >>> doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the other >>> for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX >>> when >>> that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two >>> switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select which >>> antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the >>> connection >>> scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): >>> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 >>> >>> But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I have >>> heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not great in >>> Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Rico >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kc5qbc at swbell.net Tue Jan 9 17:10:57 2018 From: kc5qbc at swbell.net (Floyd Rodgers) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> Message-ID: <597788882.3476533.1515517857601@mail.yahoo.com> ?I use diamond mx72n pair to allow a 100 ft run from shack to antennas using 7/8" hardline. .1db loss and plenty of power at 400/250w fm. isolation of the units back to back is 120db uhf/vhf which is plenty to run satellite with two radios and two antennas. On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 10:22 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: Page 10 of PA1IVO's presentation at the 2011 AMSAT-UK Colloquium includes measurements of the Wimo Diplexer. It appears to have very good specs in general, though it looks like losses were measured at 1.45 dB at 436 MHz, which is a bit high. https://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/pa1ivo/doc/AmsatColloquium2011.pdf 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Rico van Genugten wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for the recommendation Patrick, I have contacted MFJ and hope they > will ship a couple of them to the Netherlands. I have also contacted WiMo > for some specs on their diplexers as they aren't available on their > website, I will share them on this list when I receive them. > > 73, > Rico PA3RVG > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < > amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > >> Rico, >> >> I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I >> found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and >> Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in >> the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen >> or tried WiMo diplexers. >> >> One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be >> much better than Diamond's MX-72: >> >> http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ >> >> The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text >> tells the story of this comparison. >> >> 73! >> >> >> >> >> >> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK >> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ >> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < >> rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer for >>> RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm currently >>> doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the other >>> for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX >>> when >>> that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two >>> switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select which >>> antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the >>> connection >>> scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): >>> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 >>> >>> But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I have >>> heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not great in >>> Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Rico >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aa5uk at yahoo.com Tue Jan 9 17:17:36 2018 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> Message-ID: <673655661.3424403.1515518256783@mail.yahoo.com> Here is another excellent ARRL article back from 2004 about Diplexers: http://www.dci.ca/pdf/qst-dec-2004.pdf I had good experience with the MFJ-916B and got better results compared to the Comet 4160. Adrian AA5UK On Tuesday, January 9, 2018, 10:00:30 AM CST, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: Rico, I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen or tried WiMo diplexers. One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be much better than Diamond's MX-72: http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text tells the story of this comparison. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer for > RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm currently > doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the other > for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX when > that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two > switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select which > antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the connection > scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): > https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 > > But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I have > heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not great in > Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? > > Regards, > Rico > > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From marklhammond at gmail.com Tue Jan 9 18:03:19 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:03:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenwood TS-2000X RX @38k4 Baud In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Enzo, Welcome back to radio :) Good to hear from you again. Falconsat-3 has the capability of running a 38k4 downlink, but it's unlikely that we'll try it. I have 2 radios with Symek boards---the TS-790A and the TS-2000X. You can see my photos of the TS-2000X mod here: https://sites.google.com/site/marklhammond/ts-2000x_ifd It may not be worth the risk associated with the modification to your radio. Should we try 38k4, using an SDR receiver and software TNC to decode is probably an easier option to consider. If there were sufficient numbers of interested hams in running at 38k4, we might be able to try it. But for now, it's probably unlikely. The 1.2GHz transmitter in the TS-2000X will be useful with the soon to be launched Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D! 73, Mark N8MH At 01:59 PM 1/9/2018 +0100, Vincenzo Mone wrote: >Hello, > >I was a bit out of the world of radio due to the renovation of the house. > >In the meantime I took advantage of replacing my old Kenwood TS-790E with a >new Kenwood TS-2000X. > >In the old TS-790, I had the Symek IFD card for receiving 38k4 baud >satellites. > >I wanted to know if there are still satellites that still transmit at that >speed and if it is worth inserting the TS-2000X card. > >Thank you > > > > > >73's de Enzo IK8OZV > >EasyLog 5 BetaTester > >EasyLog PDA BetaTester > >WinBollet BetaTester > >D.C.I. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Tue Jan 9 19:18:18 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 14:18:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: <597788882.3476533.1515517857601@mail.yahoo.com> References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> <597788882.3476533.1515517857601@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Since I don't believe the isolation numbers, are they measured or claimed? Bob N4HY On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Floyd Rodgers wrote: > I use diamond mx72n pair to allow a 100 ft run from shack to antennas > using 7/8" hardline. .1db loss and plenty of power at 400/250w fm. > isolation of the units back to back is 120db uhf/vhf which is plenty to run > satellite with two radios and two antennas. > > On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 10:22 AM, Paul Stoetzer > wrote: > > > Page 10 of PA1IVO's presentation at the 2011 AMSAT-UK Colloquium > includes measurements of the Wimo Diplexer. It appears to have very > good specs in general, though it looks like losses were measured at > 1.45 dB at 436 MHz, which is a bit high. > > https://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/pa1ivo/doc/AmsatColloquium2011.pdf > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Rico van Genugten > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the recommendation Patrick, I have contacted MFJ and hope they > > will ship a couple of them to the Netherlands. I have also contacted WiMo > > for some specs on their diplexers as they aren't available on their > > website, I will share them on this list when I receive them. > > > > 73, > > Rico PA3RVG > > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < > > amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > > > >> Rico, > >> > >> I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I > >> found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and > >> Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in > >> the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen > >> or tried WiMo diplexers. > >> > >> One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be > >> much better than Diamond's MX-72: > >> > >> http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ > >> > >> The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text > >> tells the story of this comparison. > >> > >> 73! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > >> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > >> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < > >> rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer > for > >>> RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm > currently > >>> doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the > other > >>> for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX > >>> when > >>> that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two > >>> switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select > which > >>> antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the > >>> connection > >>> scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): > >>> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 > >>> > >>> But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I have > >>> heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not > great in > >>> Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Rico > >>> > >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From andre.lofaldli at gmail.com Tue Jan 9 09:57:15 2018 From: andre.lofaldli at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEzDuGZhbGRsaQ==?=) Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 09:57:15 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] GPerdict, Icom IC-910H, and Windows 10 In-Reply-To: References: <01F1FD4A-0211-4B64-9B1C-BB24F157A51B@highnoonfilm.com> Message-ID: Hi Les, I'm using Gpredict with a 910H without problem, but it cannot (as far as I know) control hardware directly. It is designed to use the rigctld and rotctld tools from Hamlib to control radios and rotors. See http://hamlib.sourceforge.net for details. 73, Andr? LB1IH man. 8. jan. 2018 kl. 22:51 skrev John Brier : > SatPC32 will allow you to visualize upcoming passes. The function is called > "Preview." It's under Tracking on the top menu bar: > > http://www.dk1tb.de/manual_e.htm#preview > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Jan 8, 2018 2:11 PM, "Les Rayburn" wrote: > > > I?m working to get back on the satellites and have SatPC32 restored and > > working thanks to the generous donation of Doppler.SQR and Subtone files > > from a couple of list members. Many thanks for that. > > > > All efforts to restore Nova for Windows have failed so far. On both my > > Windows 10 machines, the software refuses to run?even after loading the > > ?patch? program. Shame?I love the ability to ?fast forward? in time and > > visualize upcoming passes on Nova. If anyone has any thoughts on how to > > make it work on Windows 10, I?d love to hear them. > > > > I?ve also downloaded the Windows version of GPredict software, and am > very > > impressed with the platform, with one major exception. The ability to add > > new satellites, edit visualization, etc. is first rate, but the rig > control > > options are frustrating. > > > > http://gpredict.oz9aec.net > > > > So far, I?ve been unable to successfully get the software to control my > > Icom IC-910H. Has anyone else tried this software with the IC-910H? > Anyone > > have it working correctly? > > > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > Les Rayburn, N1LF > > 121 Mayfair Park > > Maylene, AL 35114 > > EM63nf > > > > Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. > > > > Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-1 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon > > TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, > > Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, > > Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. > > > > ?Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else?s favorite song?? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Sent from my toaster From n8hm at amsat.org Tue Jan 9 23:40:00 2018 From: n8hm at amsat.org (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:40:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D Message-ID: AMSAT?s next Fox-1 satellite, Fox-1D, is scheduled for launch at 03:58 UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:58pm EST on Thursday, January 11th) from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. Further information about the launch and the satellite's early operations, including preliminary TLEs and FoxTelem settings suggestions, can be found at https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) From zleffke at vt.edu Wed Jan 10 00:31:34 2018 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:31:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> <597788882.3476533.1515517857601@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7781bd16-e5c1-0f9e-bd1b-96aaa1dc8fc9@vt.edu> I use Comet CF-4160Ns in the VT ground station.? A while back (June of 2016) I measured the insertion loss and isolation for a single diplexer with a calibrated Rhode and Schwarz network analyzer 'on the bench' and the numbers are close to the spec (with a 50 Ohm termination on the 'unused' port for the two port measurements of a three port device). The claimed numbers are 0.1dB for VHF insertion loss, 0.2dB for UHF insertion loss, and a blanket '60 dB' for isolation.? In that controlled measurement situation, for the COM to VHF port path (with a 50 termination on the UHF port) I got 0.048 dB of insertion loss at VHF and 59.695 dB of UHF isolation.? For the COM to UHF port path (50 ohm termination on the VHF port) I got 0.100 dB of insertion loss at UHF and 73.812 dB of VHF isolation. So technically the measured performance did better than the claimed performance on everything except the UHF isolation from the VHF port which only missed the claimed spec by about .3 dB (assuming I didn't screw up the cal process). All of that though, was for a /single/ diplexer. I'd have to think more about the ganging of two diplexers on either end of the cable and whether or not you'd actually get the full 'double isolation'.? Something about that first diplexer and internal coupling or reflected UHF energy if the there is any mismatch causing UHF energy (from say a VHF third harmonic) leaking back into the UHF radio.? Maybe not if you have a good match.....but then coupling at the antennas and an LNA with gain in the mix.........interesting problem to fully think through and sort out the details........ On the surface though, if you had two diplexers, one on either side of the cable, and inserted a UHF signal into the VHF port on one side and then measured the UHF signal power on the VHF port of the diplexer on the other side, there would be about 120dB or so of loss in that path (2 times the isolation plus the cable's insertion loss).......just not sure thats an appropriate test considering that's not quite how the actual system is installed when antennas and LNAs and radios are all in the mix and matches aren't all perfect. Fun stuff to think about though! -Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Aerospace Systems Lab Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 1/9/2018 2:18 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: > Since I don't believe the isolation numbers, are they measured or claimed? > > Bob > N4HY > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Floyd Rodgers wrote: > >> I use diamond mx72n pair to allow a 100 ft run from shack to antennas >> using 7/8" hardline. .1db loss and plenty of power at 400/250w fm. >> isolation of the units back to back is 120db uhf/vhf which is plenty to run >> satellite with two radios and two antennas. >> >> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 10:22 AM, Paul Stoetzer >> wrote: >> >> >> Page 10 of PA1IVO's presentation at the 2011 AMSAT-UK Colloquium >> includes measurements of the Wimo Diplexer. It appears to have very >> good specs in general, though it looks like losses were measured at >> 1.45 dB at 436 MHz, which is a bit high. >> >> https://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/pa1ivo/doc/AmsatColloquium2011.pdf >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Rico van Genugten >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Thanks for the recommendation Patrick, I have contacted MFJ and hope they >>> will ship a couple of them to the Netherlands. I have also contacted WiMo >>> for some specs on their diplexers as they aren't available on their >>> website, I will share them on this list when I receive them. >>> >>> 73, >>> Rico PA3RVG >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < >>> amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Rico, >>>> >>>> I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I >>>> found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and >>>> Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in >>>> the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen >>>> or tried WiMo diplexers. >>>> >>>> One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be >>>> much better than Diamond's MX-72: >>>> >>>> http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ >>>> >>>> The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text >>>> tells the story of this comparison. >>>> >>>> 73! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK >>>> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ >>>> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < >>>> rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer >> for >>>>> RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm >> currently >>>>> doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the >> other >>>>> for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX >>>>> when >>>>> that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two >>>>> switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select >> which >>>>> antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the >>>>> connection >>>>> scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): >>>>> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 >>>>> >>>>> But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I have >>>>> heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not >> great in >>>>> Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Rico >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jan 10 01:41:43 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 20:41:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For those that prefer a hardcopy format, here is a link to a PDF version of "Getting Ready for Fox-1D." https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > AMSAT?s next Fox-1 satellite, Fox-1D, is scheduled for launch at 03:58 > UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:58pm EST on Thursday, January 11th) from > Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. Further information > about the launch and the satellite's early operations, including > preliminary TLEs and FoxTelem settings suggestions, can be found at > https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) From AJ9N at aol.com Wed Jan 10 01:50:17 2018 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 20:50:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-10 02:00 UTC Message-ID: <421d3f.66f6e2b1.4786cb59@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-10 02:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Prva srednja informati?ka ?kola, Zagreb, Croatia, telebridge via VK6MJ (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA (***) Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-01-18 08:46:52 UTC 34 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. 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All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-01-10 02:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1201. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1150. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From paul.hamradio at verizon.net Wed Jan 10 05:43:07 2018 From: paul.hamradio at verizon.net (Paul - K6HR) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:43:07 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Best TNC For Satellite Use? Message-ID: Hello! What TNC are folks using these days to work FalconSat 9600 baud? I see Symek is no longer in business. Are there any recommendations or will any 9600 baud TNC suffice? I'm also wondering if my registered copy of WiSP will run under Windows 7? Paul Delaney - K6HR paul.hamradio at verizon.net http://gw.k6hr.ampr.org:8080/index.php From rico.van.genugten at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 13:36:33 2018 From: rico.van.genugten at gmail.com (Rico van Genugten) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:36:33 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: <7781bd16-e5c1-0f9e-bd1b-96aaa1dc8fc9@vt.edu> References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> <597788882.3476533.1515517857601@mail.yahoo.com> <7781bd16-e5c1-0f9e-bd1b-96aaa1dc8fc9@vt.edu> Message-ID: Hi all, Thanks for the link to the article Adrian, that's a very good comparison. It seems that the differences between the Comet, MFJ and Diamond are minor and they all meet their specs, with the exception of UHF isolation on the VHF port, which is in the 55-60 dB range for all units. This is in agreement with the measurements done by Zach on the Comet. According to the QST article the Comet's input SWR is a bit higher on the VHF port (1.3:1) and the Diamond and MFJ's input SWR is a bit higher on the UHF port (1.4:1 and 1.3:1), but nothing too shocking. I ended up ordering a set of MFJ-916BN's from MFJ directly. Shipping to the Netherlands is 29 dollars. Not too bad considered the unit price and the current dollar to euro rate. Thanks all, I will let you know how they perform when I get them. As stated before, I will not be using them back to back as in Floyd's situation, but rather run two feedlines and connect a diplexer to each of them. 73, Rico PA3RVG ? On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Zach Leffke wrote: > I use Comet CF-4160Ns in the VT ground station. A while back (June of > 2016) I measured the insertion loss and isolation for a single diplexer > with a calibrated Rhode and Schwarz network analyzer 'on the bench' and the > numbers are close to the spec (with a 50 Ohm termination on the 'unused' > port for the two port measurements of a three port device). > > The claimed numbers are 0.1dB for VHF insertion loss, 0.2dB for UHF > insertion loss, and a blanket '60 dB' for isolation. In that controlled > measurement situation, for the COM to VHF port path (with a 50 termination > on the UHF port) I got 0.048 dB of insertion loss at VHF and 59.695 dB of > UHF isolation. For the COM to UHF port path (50 ohm termination on the VHF > port) I got 0.100 dB of insertion loss at UHF and 73.812 dB of VHF > isolation. > > So technically the measured performance did better than the claimed > performance on everything except the UHF isolation from the VHF port which > only missed the claimed spec by about .3 dB (assuming I didn't screw up the > cal process). > > All of that though, was for a /single/ diplexer. > > I'd have to think more about the ganging of two diplexers on either end of > the cable and whether or not you'd actually get the full 'double > isolation'. Something about that first diplexer and internal coupling or > reflected UHF energy if the there is any mismatch causing UHF energy (from > say a VHF third harmonic) leaking back into the UHF radio. Maybe not if > you have a good match.....but then coupling at the antennas and an LNA with > gain in the mix.........interesting problem to fully think through and sort > out the details........ > > On the surface though, if you had two diplexers, one on either side of the > cable, and inserted a UHF signal into the VHF port on one side and then > measured the UHF signal power on the VHF port of the diplexer on the other > side, there would be about 120dB or so of loss in that path (2 times the > isolation plus the cable's insertion loss).......just not sure thats an > appropriate test considering that's not quite how the actual system is > installed when antennas and LNAs and radios are all in the mix and matches > aren't all perfect. > > Fun stuff to think about though! > > -Zach, KJ4QLP > > Research Associate > Aerospace Systems Lab > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > > On 1/9/2018 2:18 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: > >> Since I don't believe the isolation numbers, are they measured or claimed? >> >> Bob >> N4HY >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Floyd Rodgers wrote: >> >> I use diamond mx72n pair to allow a 100 ft run from shack to antennas >>> using 7/8" hardline. .1db loss and plenty of power at 400/250w fm. >>> isolation of the units back to back is 120db uhf/vhf which is plenty to >>> run >>> satellite with two radios and two antennas. >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 10:22 AM, Paul Stoetzer >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Page 10 of PA1IVO's presentation at the 2011 AMSAT-UK Colloquium >>> includes measurements of the Wimo Diplexer. It appears to have very >>> good specs in general, though it looks like losses were measured at >>> 1.45 dB at 436 MHz, which is a bit high. >>> >>> https://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/pa1ivo/doc/AmsatColloquium2011.pdf >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Paul, N8HM >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Rico van Genugten >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the recommendation Patrick, I have contacted MFJ and hope >>>> they >>>> will ship a couple of them to the Netherlands. I have also contacted >>>> WiMo >>>> for some specs on their diplexers as they aren't available on their >>>> website, I will share them on this list when I receive them. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Rico PA3RVG >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < >>>> amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Rico, >>>>> >>>>> I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I >>>>> found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and >>>>> Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in >>>>> the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen >>>>> or tried WiMo diplexers. >>>>> >>>>> One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be >>>>> much better than Diamond's MX-72: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ >>>>> >>>>> The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text >>>>> tells the story of this comparison. >>>>> >>>>> 73! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK >>>>> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ >>>>> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < >>>>> rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and computer >>>>>> >>>>> for >>> >>>> RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm >>>>>> >>>>> currently >>> >>>> doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the >>>>>> >>>>> other >>> >>>> for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and TX >>>>>> when >>>>>> that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two >>>>>> switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select >>>>>> >>>>> which >>> >>>> antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the >>>>>> connection >>>>>> scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): >>>>>> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 >>>>>> >>>>>> But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I >>>>>> have >>>>>> heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not >>>>>> >>>>> great in >>> >>>> Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Rico >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> >>> Opinions expressed >>> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> >>> program! >>> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From scott23192 at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 16:36:07 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:36:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D775C7E3FAA4ECDA97B871A314830DF@CSI9020> Thanks for all the pre-launch info! I'm sure it's operator error, but I have not been able to get Orbitron to recognize those preliminary TLE's. Some of the digit positions (number of digits in certain fields) look different from all the other TLE's that are recognized. Thanks in advance if anyone can let me know how to clean up those pre-launch TLE's to work in Orbitron. Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR ========================================== -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 8:41 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D For those that prefer a hardcopy format, here is a link to a PDF version of "Getting Ready for Fox-1D." https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf 73, Paul, N8HM ========================================== On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > AMSAT?s next Fox-1 satellite, Fox-1D, is scheduled for launch at 03:58 > UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:58pm EST on Thursday, January 11th) from > Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. Further information > about the launch and the satellite's early operations, including > preliminary TLEs and FoxTelem settings suggestions, can be found at > https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Wed Jan 10 17:05:58 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D In-Reply-To: <3D775C7E3FAA4ECDA97B871A314830DF@CSI9020> References: <3D775C7E3FAA4ECDA97B871A314830DF@CSI9020> Message-ID: <1963110673.659323.1515603958416@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Try these FOX-1D1 99934U 18001D ? 18012.17965046 ?.00000000 ?00000-0 ?14322-4 0 ?99992 99934 ?97.5670 ?73.8289 0005699 284.7026 298.7182 15.21980622000019?73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: Scott To: AMSAT BB Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2018 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D Thanks for all the pre-launch info! I'm sure it's operator error, but I have not been able to get Orbitron to recognize those preliminary TLE's. Some of the digit positions (number of digits in certain fields) look different from all the other TLE's that are recognized.? Thanks in advance if anyone can let me know how to clean up those pre-launch TLE's to work in Orbitron. Thanks! -Scott,? K4KDR ========================================== -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 8:41 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D For those that prefer a hardcopy format, here is a link to a PDF version of "Getting Ready for Fox-1D." https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf 73, Paul, N8HM ========================================== On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > AMSAT?s next Fox-1 satellite, Fox-1D, is scheduled for launch at 03:58 > UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:58pm EST on Thursday, January 11th) from > Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. Further information > about the launch and the satellite's early operations, including > preliminary TLEs and FoxTelem settings suggestions, can be found at > https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From AJ9N at aol.com Wed Jan 10 17:43:15 2018 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:43:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-10 17:30 UTC Message-ID: <5577a3.66fa3163.4787aab3@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-10 17:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Prva srednja informati?ka ?kola, Zagreb, Croatia, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-01-18 08:46:52 UTC 34 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 127 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-01-10 17:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1201. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1150. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From n4hf.philip at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 17:48:18 2018 From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:48:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Saving sat QSO recordings from websites - software? Message-ID: Hi all I'm doing (at least) three more satellite presentations ( and hopefully demos) this spring for ham clubs in the western NC region. I normally play a couple of K8YSE's sat QSOs from his website when I have internet access at the presentations. However, I may not have internet access at two presentations this year, so I'm wondering what software - or methods - I might use to "capture" K8YSE's MP3 files from his website (or satellite pass recordings from others) and save them (in whatever format) on my PC so that I don't need internet access. This would also come in handy for hamfest tables, so prospective AMSAT'ers can actually hear what both FM and analog QSOs sound like. Thanks! Philip N4HF From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jan 10 18:12:14 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 13:12:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Saving sat QSO recordings from websites - software? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All you need to do is right-click and click save as. The links on his website are just direct links to MP3 files. And, it's just a pet peeve of mine, but any SSB or FM voice QSO is "analog." 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: > Hi all > > I'm doing (at least) three more satellite presentations ( and hopefully > demos) this spring for ham clubs in the western NC region. > > I normally play a couple of K8YSE's sat QSOs from his website when I have > internet access at the presentations. > > However, I may not have internet access at two presentations this year, so > I'm wondering what software - or methods - I might use to "capture" K8YSE's > MP3 files from his website (or satellite pass recordings from others) and > save them (in whatever format) on my PC so that I don't need internet > access. > > This would also come in handy for hamfest tables, so prospective AMSAT'ers > can actually hear what both FM and analog QSOs sound like. > > Thanks! > > Philip N4HF > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From nickhart at usa.net Wed Jan 10 18:27:31 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:27:31 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Saving sat QSO recordings from websites - software? Message-ID: <941waJsAf1488S08.1515608851@web08.cms.usa.net> I'm not sure what sort of computer you may be using. But, if you are on a windows machine, for example, you should be able to right-click on the file link of interest, and save a local copy to your machine. As an example: http://www.papays.com/sat/general.html is the page I'm seeing. Is that that one you're using? The first link: XW-2D_23Nov2017_225420z.mp3 5K0T signing off at less than 1 degree on his end (with joy) The XW-2D_23Nov2017_225420z.mp3 part is an active link. If you right click, you can select "Save Link As" and choose where you want to save the new file on your computer. Hope it helps. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:07:47 AM PST From: Philip Jenkins To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Saving sat QSO recordings from websites - software? Hi all I'm doing (at least) three more satellite presentations ( and hopefully demos) this spring for ham clubs in the western NC region. I normally play a couple of K8YSE's sat QSOs from his website when I have internet access at the presentations. However, I may not have internet access at two presentations this year, so I'm wondering what software - or methods - I might use to "capture" K8YSE's MP3 files from his website (or satellite pass recordings from others) and save them (in whatever format) on my PC so that I don't need internet access. This would also come in handy for hamfest tables, so prospective AMSAT'ers can actually hear what both FM and analog QSOs sound like. Thanks! Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Wed Jan 10 18:30:19 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 13:30:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] QIKcom-1: SatNOGS and Listening Message-ID: Listening for QIKCOM-1: Just to be sure. If the antennas were not released by the host, then no one will be able to decode it but we are HOPING that someone can hear it responding by EAR. That is, put your receiver in SSB mode and listen carefully by ear. Then ping it with as much AX.25 FM power as you can. No more often than every 12 seconds, since it has a DUPE filter of 10 seconds. Then see if you can hear a correlation 1 second avfter each uplink for a possible digipeat? Bob *From:* Scott [mailto:scott23192 at gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 10:08 AM *To:* Robert Bruninga ; Malcolm Beckett < macbeck22 at gmail.com> *Cc:* Robert Bruninga *Subject:* Re: QIKcom-1: SatNOGS Greetings Bob, it?s been a while since we spoke. Perhaps ?Outernet? was the subject previously. Yes, Malcolm was kind enough to refer me to recordings from a number of diverse receiver sources last night and I only found one with actual packets ? which decoded to be digipeats through PSAT. Additionally, I had a nice overhead pass of QIKcom-1 last night and as I?ve done many times before, tried to exchange APRS packets with it at up to 50w thru a RHCP yagi gain antenna (X-Quad). No replies were heard, unfortunately. 73! -Scott, K4KDR ------------------------------ ------------------------------ *From:* Robert Bruninga *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:53 AM *To:* Malcolm Beckett ; Scott *Cc:* Robert Bruninga *Subject:* RE: QIKcom-1: SatNOGS Thanks! Data number 59348 makes sense. At first I was totally confused by the continuous tone traks aAND the fact that they followed Doppler. Meaning they must be coming from the spacecraft. Then I realized that maybe the receiver is Doppler trakcing and so any fixed tone in the passband would then appear to follow Doppler when in fact it was constant. So, now that I ignore those, I can see the packets. Bob *From:* Malcolm Beckett [mailto:macbeck22 at gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:39 AM *To:* Robert Bruninga ; Scott *Subject:* Re: QIKcom-1: SatNOGS Bob, For reference, here's some NO-84 passes: https://network.satnogs.org/observations/?norad=40654 However, the visual appearance will vary based on gain and station configuration. The SatNOGS team responded this morning and eliminated all of the observations I'd found. The weak signals appear to be NO-84 off the back of directional antennas. A few decodes from NO-84 and one terrestrial station. I've copied Scott Chapman, K4KDR, as he tried last night with negative results. My station is portable but relatively robust. As time and weather permit, I may find some acceptable passes and try to warm it up a little! Have a great day, Malcolm On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: Yes, that is going to be a problem. They are both on the same frequency along with PCSAT NO44, and so one has to ignor any passes when both are in view. I still think the best test is to be pinging it once every 12 seconds and see if there are any responses. That will be proof. I have not looked at waterfalls before of a good packet, so I don?t know what to expect. Maybe you could capture a waterfall on a strong pass of NO84 and lets nail down an example of a good pass. Bob WB4APR From g0kla at arrl.net Wed Jan 10 19:07:20 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:07:20 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Best TNC For Satellite Use? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul, WISP will run under Windows 7. It has some quirks but it is good software. Shout it you need help setting it up. I'm using an old DPK-9600 TNC and it works well. The TNC needs to support 9600 baud GMSK. I don't know if that means all will work. I had to fiddle with it a bit to get it setup. It was not quite plug and play, but not far from it. That said, there are software only solutions, so if you do not already have a TNC collecting dust on a shelf (as I did) you might want to use software. There is advice here: http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/falconsat.htm which is very clear once you run google translate on the page. Chris Chris On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:43 AM, Paul - K6HR wrote: > > Hello! > > What TNC are folks using these days to work FalconSat 9600 baud? > I see Symek is no longer in business. Are there any recommendations or will > any 9600 baud TNC suffice? > > I'm also wondering if my registered copy of WiSP will run under Windows 7? > > Paul Delaney - K6HR > paul.hamradio at verizon.net > http://gw.k6hr.ampr.org:8080/index.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From n4hf.philip at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 18:32:01 2018 From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 13:32:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Saving sat QSO recordings from websites - software? In-Reply-To: <941waJsAf1488S08.1515608851@web08.cms.usa.net> References: <941waJsAf1488S08.1515608851@web08.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: Thanks to Nick and Paul...that was WAY too easy. I had seen the "Save Link As..." when right clicking, but I thought it would merely save *the URL* somewhere, not the actual audio file itself. 73 all! Philip N4HF On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Nick Hart wrote: > I'm not sure what sort of computer you may be using. But, if you are on a > windows machine, for example, you should be able to right-click on the file > link of interest, and save a local copy to your machine. > > As an example: > http://www.papays.com/sat/general.html is the page I'm seeing. Is that > that > one you're using? > > The first link: > > XW-2D_23Nov2017_225420z.mp3 5K0T signing off at less than 1 degree on his > end > (with joy) > > The XW-2D_23Nov2017_225420z.mp3 part is an active link. If you right > click, > you can select "Save Link As" and choose where you want to save the new > file > on your computer. > > Hope it helps. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:07:47 AM PST > From: Philip Jenkins > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] Saving sat QSO recordings from websites - software? > > Hi all > > I'm doing (at least) three more satellite presentations ( and hopefully > demos) this spring for ham clubs in the western NC region. > > I normally play a couple of K8YSE's sat QSOs from his website when I have > internet access at the presentations. > > However, I may not have internet access at two presentations this year, so > I'm wondering what software - or methods - I might use to "capture" K8YSE's > MP3 files from his website (or satellite pass recordings from others) and > save them (in whatever format) on my PC so that I don't need internet > access. > > This would also come in handy for hamfest tables, so prospective AMSAT'ers > can actually hear what both FM and analog QSOs sound like. > > Thanks! > > Philip N4HF > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From pconver at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 19:24:01 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:24:01 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D In-Reply-To: <3D775C7E3FAA4ECDA97B871A314830DF@CSI9020> References: <3D775C7E3FAA4ECDA97B871A314830DF@CSI9020> Message-ID: Hi Scott, Try with following TLEs: FOX1D 1 99934U 180001D 18012.17965046 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 1 19 2 99934 97.5670 73.8289 0005699 284.7026 298.7182 15.21980622999904 Passes & freqs at http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=fox1d Wishing successful launch of FOX-1D !! 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Scott wrote: > Thanks for all the pre-launch info! > > I'm sure it's operator error, but I have not been able to get Orbitron to > recognize those preliminary TLE's. > > Some of the digit positions (number of digits in certain fields) look > different from all the other TLE's that are recognized. Thanks in advance > if anyone can let me know how to clean up those pre-launch TLE's to work in > Orbitron. > > Thanks! > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > ========================================== > > -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 8:41 PM > To: AMSAT BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D > > For those that prefer a hardcopy format, here is a link to a PDF > version of "Getting Ready for Fox-1D." > > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ > Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > ========================================== > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> AMSAT?s next Fox-1 satellite, Fox-1D, is scheduled for launch at 03:58 >> UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:58pm EST on Thursday, January 11th) from >> Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. Further information >> about the launch and the satellite's early operations, including >> preliminary TLEs and FoxTelem settings suggestions, can be found at >> https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ >> >> 73, >> >> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM >> Executive Vice President >> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jan 10 20:03:09 2018 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] D-Star One CubeSat launch slated for Feb 1 References: <493962354.1145245.1515614589801.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <493962354.1145245.1515614589801@mail.yahoo.com> BBC TV to show Michael Portillo 5.6 GHz moonbounce Friday January 12 https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/06/bbc-tv-to-show-michael-portillo-moonbounce/ D-Star One project @GermanOrbital plans to launch their CubeSat on a Soyuz-2/Fregat on February 1, 2018 from Vostochny http://www.orbitalsystems.de/d-star-one-second-birth/ FM transponder CubeSats PicSat and Fox-1D launch 0359 UT on Friday, January 12 from Sriharikota https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ The TY2, TY3, TY4, TY5, 6U CubeSats are expected to launch on January 17 from Jiuquan on a CZ-11. Developed by the Hunan Amateur Radio Society the satellites carry payloads operating in the 5650 and 5830 MHz bands. The 5 GHz frequencies are: Downlink 5833.000 MHz(TY2) 5836.000 MHz(TY3) 5839.000 MHz(TY4) 5842.00 0 MHz(TY5) Uplink 5653.000 MHz(TY2) 5656.000 MHz(TY3) 5659.000? MHz(TY4) 5665.000 MHz(TY5) Information on other frequencies is at http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=556 December issue of free Weather Satellite magazine GEO Quarterly available for download https://amsat-uk.org/2017/12/11/geo-quarterly-magazine/ Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | From radiomb at bellsouth.net Wed Jan 10 21:41:25 2018 From: radiomb at bellsouth.net (radiomb) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR radio References: <1217865262.674645.1515620485774.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1217865262.674645.1515620485774@mail.yahoo.com> ? What is a good SDR radio? Does not have to be top dog. But would?like?one that works well. I plan to use it some for satellite communication but mainly for coping weather satellite?images. ?Thanks73 Mike? K4MIA From olsonda1 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 10 22:04:44 2018 From: olsonda1 at yahoo.com (Donald Olson) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR Radio References: <608650403.693507.1515621884983.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <608650403.693507.1515621884983@mail.yahoo.com> Been using the SDRPlay2 on a couple of computers and an Android tablet.? Several pieces of software out there for it.? Have not done satellites yet. HF and VHF only, but the receiver goes up to 2 GHz.? As always, the key is having an appropriate antenna for the need.? Cost about US$150 at HRO.? Has two SMA connectors as well as wire connections and Amazon has a package of SMA adapters to several connectors for about US$22.? Don Olson,WA5W From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jan 10 22:21:13 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:21:13 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR radio In-Reply-To: <1217865262.674645.1515620485774@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1217865262.674645.1515620485774.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1217865262.674645.1515620485774@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike, There are some options that won't break the bank. I have used the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and the different SDRplay receivers (RSP1 for a couple of years, RSP2, and now an RSP1A) for working satellites. These are all decent receivers, and I use them with the inexpensive 8- to 11-inch Windows tablets, so I have access to more software than I would using an Android device. The FUNcube Dongle Pro+ is available through its UK-based manufacturer's web site http://www.funcubedongle.com/ . The SDRplay receivers are sold in the US by HRO. The FUNcube Dongle Pro+ can be used directly with the FoxTelem software for AMSAT's Fox-1 satellites and the various AMSAT-UK FUNcube satellites including AO-73, but the SDRplay receivers can handle a larger bandwidth (up to 10 MHz) than the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ (up to 192 kHz). I have been using the SDRplay RSP1 for a couple of years, and have just picked up its replacement RSP1A. Good luck, and 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:41 PM, radiomb wrote: > What is a good SDR radio? Does not have to be top dog. But > would like one that works well. I plan to use it some for satellite > communication but mainly for coping weather satellite images. Thanks73 > Mike K4MIA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jan 10 22:56:06 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:56:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR radio In-Reply-To: <19848d60-b9f8-4c37-97ee-777875cbc775@Spark> References: <1217865262.674645.1515620485774.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1217865262.674645.1515620485774@mail.yahoo.com> <19848d60-b9f8-4c37-97ee-777875cbc775@Spark> Message-ID: Hi Brad! Have you used the DXPatrol receiver for working amateur satellites? I haven't worked anyone who has used it for the downlink side of their station, nor have I tried one, so I didn't list it in my earlier message. Besides the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and various SDRplay receivers I mentioned in my earlier e-mail, I have also tried some of the RTL dongles in my satellite station. They were no good - no front-end filtering, and they stopped receiving whenever I transmitted with an HT or FT-817 on a different band than where I was receiving. That's why I first went with a FUNcube dongle, and later on the SDRplay units. I went to the DXPatrol web site and downloaded its PDF manual. It looks like an RTL dongle with an upconverter for its coverage below 25 MHz. Its price is a little less than the SDRplay RSP1A sold by HRO. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Brad Brooks wrote: > Also, the DXPatrol Mk4 is an option. It is designed by CT1FFU and > available in US from Vibroplex. 73 Brad WF7T > > From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 22:27:48 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:27:48 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR radio In-Reply-To: References: <1217865262.674645.1515620485774.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1217865262.674645.1515620485774@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19848d60-b9f8-4c37-97ee-777875cbc775@Spark> Also, the DXPatrol Mk4 is an option. It is designed by CT1FFU and available in US from Vibroplex. 73 Brad WF7T On Jan 10, 2018, 4:21 PM -0600, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) , wrote: > Mike, > > There are some options that won't break the bank. I have used > the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and the different SDRplay receivers > (RSP1 for a couple of years, RSP2, and now an RSP1A) for working > satellites. These are all decent receivers, and I use them > with the inexpensive 8- to 11-inch Windows tablets, so I have > access to more software than I would using an Android device. > > The FUNcube Dongle Pro+ is available through its UK-based > manufacturer's web site http://www.funcubedongle.com/ . The > SDRplay receivers are sold in the US by HRO. The FUNcube > Dongle Pro+ can be used directly with the FoxTelem software > for AMSAT's Fox-1 satellites and the various AMSAT-UK > FUNcube satellites including AO-73, but the SDRplay receivers > can handle a larger bandwidth (up to 10 MHz) than the FUNcube > Dongle Pro+ (up to 192 kHz). I have been using the SDRplay > RSP1 for a couple of years, and have just picked up its > replacement RSP1A. > > Good luck, and 73! > > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:41 PM, radiomb wrote: > > > What is a good SDR radio? Does not have to be top dog. But > > would like one that works well. I plan to use it some for satellite > > communication but mainly for coping weather satellite images. Thanks73 > > Mike K4MIA > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 23:09:18 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:09:18 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR radio In-Reply-To: References: <1217865262.674645.1515620485774.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1217865262.674645.1515620485774@mail.yahoo.com> <19848d60-b9f8-4c37-97ee-777875cbc775@Spark> Message-ID: <9c6f2aa5-e612-438e-bae2-afbcdf6b73f1@Spark> Yes Patrick, To clarify I have used both the DXPatrol and FCDPro+ but in RX duties only thus far. I am configuring a tracking panadapter on my RX side, so I will look for degradation when TXing. My progress/experiments have been delayed due to flu and weather. I find the DXPatrol to be better performing than a generic RTL dongle, of which I have several. Even the FCDPro+ suffers from front-end overload in my location unless I use an FM BCB filter in front. I also intend to use a duplexer unit in front of the SDR if 2M overload is experienced. I will keep posted if there is interest. 73 Brad WF7T On Jan 10, 2018, 4:56 PM -0600, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) , wrote: > Hi Brad! > > Have you used the DXPatrol receiver for working amateur > satellites? I haven't worked anyone who has used it for the > downlink side of their station, nor have I tried one, so > I didn't list it in my earlier message. Besides the FUNcube > Dongle Pro+ and various SDRplay receivers I mentioned in > my earlier e-mail, I have also tried some of the RTL dongles > in my satellite station. They were no good - no front-end > filtering, and they stopped receiving whenever I transmitted > with an HT or FT-817 on a different band than where I was > receiving. That's why I first went with a FUNcube dongle, > and later on the SDRplay units. > > I went to the DXPatrol web site and downloaded its PDF > manual. It looks like an RTL dongle with an upconverter > for its coverage below 25 MHz. Its price is a little less > than the SDRplay RSP1A sold by HRO. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Brad Brooks wrote: > > > Also, the DXPatrol Mk4 is an option. It is designed by CT1FFU and available in US from Vibroplex. 73 Brad WF7T > > > > From frank.woelfle at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 23:18:06 2018 From: frank.woelfle at gmail.com (Frank Woelfle) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 23:18:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Kenwood] FS: Kenwood TS2000 HF/VHF/UHF/satellite radio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey John, did you sell this radio? On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 2:21 PM John Geiger wrote: > I have for sale a Kenwood TS2000 HF/VHF/UHF satellite transceiver. Does > 100 watts on HF, 6m and 2m, and 50 watts on 70cm. Has IF DSP for noise > reduction and IF filtering, also has TCXO installed, and CW memory keyer. > The internal TNC in this radio doesn't work so you cannot use it for remote > control by Sky Command. > > Also, the radio took a little tumble a couple of months ago and one corner > of the bezel got banged up a little, and a couple of the buttons got pushed > in a little into the bezel but they still do operate. The noise reduction > button is pushed in the furthest and I programmed the PF key to control > noise reduction. I am including a hand mic with 4 programmable buttons on > it so you can use it to control some of these other functions. > > The TS2000 has the DRU-3A voice recorder installed, which is a $119 value. > It also comes with a power cord, original box, and manual. > > I am asking $550 for it plus any shipping that is needed. > > 73 John AF5CC > ______________________________________________________________ > Kenwood mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to frank.woelfle at gmail.com > From g0mrf at aol.com Wed Jan 10 23:53:17 2018 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:53:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle Message-ID: <160e27e0217-171e-511f@webjas-vab213.srv.aolmail.net> Hi all. I've returned from a break over Christmas and noticed the signal level on my fox-tlm screen has dropped. I've also noticed that the various parameters for the dongle include LNA and Mixer gain along with IF bandwidth of 200kHz However, there is also a box that says RF filter and that is set to 0-4MHz. I can't see anyway to change the RF filter setting ! I assume this should be 2m to select the internal SAW filter. Any idea where I can start looking? Many thanks David G0MRF From n8hm at amsat.org Wed Jan 10 23:59:10 2018 From: n8hm at amsat.org (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:59:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Launch Live Blog Message-ID: The countdown to the launch of PSLV-C40 carrying AMSAT's Fox-1D satellite is underway! The 28 hour countdown began at 23:59 UTC on January 10, 2018. Fox-1D is scheduled for launch into a sun-synchronous orbit at 03:59 UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:59pm EST on Thursday, January 11th) from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. A live blog of events, links to live video when available, and more can be found at https://www.amsat.org/fox-1d-launch-live-blog/ 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) From marklhammond at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 00:14:21 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:14:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Bod] Fox-1D Launch Live Blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul, thanks for doing a great job pimping our goods! :) Mark At 06:59 PM 1/10/2018 -0500, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >The countdown to the launch of PSLV-C40 carrying AMSAT's Fox-1D >satellite is underway! The 28 hour countdown began at 23:59 UTC on >January 10, 2018. Fox-1D is scheduled for launch into a >sun-synchronous orbit at 03:59 UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:59pm EST on >Thursday, January 11th) from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in >Sriharikota, India. A live blog of events, links to live video when >available, and more can be found at >https://www.amsat.org/fox-1d-launch-live-blog/ > > >73, > >Paul Stoetzer, N8HM >Executive Vice President >Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) >_______________________________________________ >Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA >http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod From ka7fvv at yahoo.com Thu Jan 11 00:14:07 2018 From: ka7fvv at yahoo.com (Scott Harvey) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 00:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telemetry using Funcube Dongle Pro Plus References: <1836069477.772774.1515629647394.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1836069477.772774.1515629647394@mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone successfully captured Fox Telemetry using the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus?? I had a great signal but nothing decoded.? Any tips would be appreciated.?? 73, Scott, KA7FVV President - KBARA ? www.kbara.org Co-Owner WA7DRE 443.525 System Fusion Repeater http://www.ka7fvv.net From burns at fisher.cc Thu Jan 11 00:37:13 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:37:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telemetry using Funcube Dongle Pro Plus In-Reply-To: <1836069477.772774.1515629647394@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1836069477.772774.1515629647394.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1836069477.772774.1515629647394@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oh yes...the FCDPP is the "standard" SDR that FoxTelem folks use. Tell us more---you have a "strong signal". Does that mean you have a nice "hump" on the FFT (bottom) line? Are the "demodulation bars" surrounding it? Do you have an eye pattern in the right box? Two thoughts: 1) It is not as strong as you think and you need to check LNA or IF Amplification. 2) Although you can see the signal with you own eyes, FoxTelem is not looking at the right frequency. Be sure that under "spacecraft" and either AO-85 or AO-91 the nominal, min, and max frequencies are ok. Nominal should be 145980 for AO85, 145960 for AO-91. Min and max should be 10Khz below and above that. Oh, and what version of FoxTelem do you have? Older versions might not recognize AO-91. Good luck and 73, Burns, WB1FJ From maccody at att.net Thu Jan 11 01:39:43 2018 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:39:43 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Launch Live Blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul, Beyond being placed into a sun-synchronous orbit, do you have any notion as to what the time of ascending node will be?? Will it be different than AO-91? 73, Mac Cody / AE5PH On 01/10/2018 05:59 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > The countdown to the launch of PSLV-C40 carrying AMSAT's Fox-1D > satellite is underway! The 28 hour countdown began at 23:59 UTC on > January 10, 2018. Fox-1D is scheduled for launch into a > sun-synchronous orbit at 03:59 UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:59pm EST on > Thursday, January 11th) from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in > Sriharikota, India. A live blog of events, links to live video when > available, and more can be found at > https://www.amsat.org/fox-1d-launch-live-blog/ > > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jan 11 01:43:26 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:43:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Launch Live Blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 9:30 is the local time of equatorial crossing of the descending node. A good time for convenient morning and evening passes! 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Mac A. Cody wrote: > Paul, > > Beyond being placed into a sun-synchronous orbit, do you have any > notion as to what the time of ascending node will be? Will it be > different than AO-91? > > 73, > > Mac Cody / AE5PH > > > On 01/10/2018 05:59 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> >> The countdown to the launch of PSLV-C40 carrying AMSAT's Fox-1D >> satellite is underway! The 28 hour countdown began at 23:59 UTC on >> January 10, 2018. Fox-1D is scheduled for launch into a >> sun-synchronous orbit at 03:59 UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:59pm EST on >> Thursday, January 11th) from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in >> Sriharikota, India. A live blog of events, links to live video when >> available, and more can be found at >> https://www.amsat.org/fox-1d-launch-live-blog/ >> >> >> 73, >> >> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM >> Executive Vice President >> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rjlawn at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 01:49:00 2018 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 01:49:00 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR Radios Message-ID: There are a number of good inexpensive SDR receivers out there but I don?t see anyone who is successfully controlling them with software such as satpc32. I believe the FunCube Dongle can be controlled by satpc32. 73 Rick, W2JAZ -- Sent from Gmail Mobile From marklhammond at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 01:49:51 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:49:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle In-Reply-To: <160e27e0217-171e-511f@webjas-vab213.srv.aolmail.net> References: <160e27e0217-171e-511f@webjas-vab213.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Hello David! From time to time with the FCDPP I find this helpful to do if something is going "wrong": exit FoxTLM unplug/plug in FCDPP followed by launching FCHID2.002.exe then resetting to default values, then setting the frequency to the "center" frequency I want to use with FoxTLM followed by launching FoxTLM That fixes about anything "weird" I've seen! Give that a go. Mark N8MH At 06:53 PM 1/10/2018 -0500, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Hi all. > >I've returned from a break over Christmas and noticed the signal level on my fox-tlm screen has dropped. >I've also noticed that the various parameters for the dongle include LNA and Mixer gain along with IF bandwidth of 200kHz >However, there is also a box that says RF filter and that is set to 0-4MHz. > >I can't see anyway to change the RF filter setting ! I assume this should be 2m to select the internal SAW filter. >Any idea where I can start looking? > >Many thanks > >David G0MRF >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jan 11 01:52:06 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:52:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR Radios In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's not about the receiver, it's about the software used with the receiver. HDSDR and Gqrx can both be controlled by external programs. I have made a couple of QSOs using computer control with Gqrx, Gpredict, a FUNcube Dongle Pro+, and an FT-817. I know others have used HDSDR with SatPC32 successfully. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Richard Lawn wrote: > There are a number of good inexpensive SDR receivers out there but I don?t > see anyone who is successfully controlling them with software such as > satpc32. I believe the FunCube Dongle can be controlled by satpc32. > > 73 > Rick, W2JAZ > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From marklhammond at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 01:58:08 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:58:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR Radios In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually...if you use SDR#, there is a plugin that will use frequency data out of SatPC32 (via DDE) that will change the frequency of a number of SDR units...it will change the frequency, set the mode and filter width, etc. so automated changing of satellites is very doable. I've done this successfully with: FCDP FCDPP Airspy Airspy Mini RTL based dongles HDSDR is another good program that will let you do similarly. Somehow I've settled on SDR#... If you become a telemetry nut, you'll also learn to appreciate what I call "native support" of the FCDPP in programs like Funcube Dashboard and FoxTLM. They actually take control of the dongle and you don't need to use something like SDR#/plugin. There are lots of ways to skin that cat! Mark N8MH At 01:49 AM 1/11/2018 +0000, Richard Lawn wrote: >There are a number of good inexpensive SDR receivers out there but I don???t see anyone who is successfully controlling them with software such as satpc32. I believe the FunCube Dongle can be controlled by satpc32. 73 Rick, W2JAZ -- Sent from Gmail Mobile _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rjlawn at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 02:23:41 2018 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:23:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR Radios In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Right. That?s what I meant to say as I Too have gotten satpc32 and HDSDR to work nicely with FCDPP. I didn?t realize that DDE would work with the other SDR RX. Good to know. 73 Rick, W2JAZ On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:58 PM Mark L. Hammond wrote: > Actually...if you use SDR#, there is a plugin that will use frequency data > out of SatPC32 (via DDE) that will change the frequency of a number of SDR > units...it will change the frequency, set the mode and filter width, etc. > so automated changing of satellites is very doable. > > I've done this successfully with: > FCDP > FCDPP > Airspy > Airspy Mini > RTL based dongles > > HDSDR is another good program that will let you do similarly. Somehow > I've settled on SDR#... > > If you become a telemetry nut, you'll also learn to appreciate what I call > "native support" of the FCDPP in programs like Funcube Dashboard and > FoxTLM. They actually take control of the dongle and you don't need to use > something like SDR#/plugin. > > There are lots of ways to skin that cat! > > Mark N8MH > > > At 01:49 AM 1/11/2018 +0000, Richard Lawn wrote: > > There are a number of good inexpensive SDR receivers out there but I > don???t see anyone who is successfully controlling them with software such > as satpc32. I believe the FunCube Dongle can be controlled by satpc32. 73 > Rick, W2JAZ -- Sent from Gmail Mobile > _______________________________________________ Sent via > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! Subscription settings: > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile From pconver at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 02:52:21 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 23:52:21 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR Radios In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try http://amsat.org.ar/pass.exe then start HDSDR. Set HDSDR with Options DDE to SDR and select Orbitron. Should work even with generic SDRs. 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:23 PM, Richard Lawn wrote: > Right. That?s what I meant to say as I Too have gotten satpc32 and HDSDR to > work nicely with FCDPP. I didn?t realize that DDE would work with the other > SDR RX. Good to know. > 73 > Rick, W2JAZ > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:58 PM Mark L. Hammond > wrote: > > > Actually...if you use SDR#, there is a plugin that will use frequency > data > > out of SatPC32 (via DDE) that will change the frequency of a number of > SDR > > units...it will change the frequency, set the mode and filter width, etc. > > so automated changing of satellites is very doable. > > > > I've done this successfully with: > > FCDP > > FCDPP > > Airspy > > Airspy Mini > > RTL based dongles > > > > HDSDR is another good program that will let you do similarly. Somehow > > I've settled on SDR#... > > > > If you become a telemetry nut, you'll also learn to appreciate what I > call > > "native support" of the FCDPP in programs like Funcube Dashboard and > > FoxTLM. They actually take control of the dongle and you don't need to > use > > something like SDR#/plugin. > > > > There are lots of ways to skin that cat! > > > > Mark N8MH > > > > > > At 01:49 AM 1/11/2018 +0000, Richard Lawn wrote: > > > > There are a number of good inexpensive SDR receivers out there but I > > don???t see anyone who is successfully controlling them with software > such > > as satpc32. I believe the FunCube Dongle can be controlled by satpc32. 73 > > Rick, W2JAZ -- Sent from Gmail Mobile > > _______________________________________________ Sent via > > AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the > amateur > > satellite program! 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From hamdan at ix.netcom.com Thu Jan 11 05:10:16 2018 From: hamdan at ix.netcom.com (Bernie and Cheryl) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:10:16 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Problems with SatPC32 CAT control and FT-736R Message-ID: <64831fb6-8c61-69fc-4f94-3bde7c4372a2@ix.netcom.com> Dear Folks: I have been able to get my computer and the Yaesu FT-736R to play nicely together, and indeed, have had several QSO's with the frequency compensated for by the computer quite nicely (on both AO-7 and FO-29).? But, I have now run into a problem. A few days ago, I was trying to hear myself on the downlink for FO-29.? I couldn't hear myself, and started adjusting the frequency controls on SatPC32 to try to find myself on the downlink.? I was completely unable to do it.? Then, I noticed that whenever I turned on the CAT control on the software (the "C+" toggle), the receive frequency was jumping out of band (explains why I couldn't hear myself).? I looked on SatPC32, and it was showing an out-of-band frequency for the downlink. I have since tried all sorts of things to get that downlink frequency back into the band and can't figure out how to do it. And, tonight, during an FO-29 pass, I noticed that I could only change the uplink frequency but the downlink frequency was stuck where it was (it was in the middle of the downlink passband) and it wasn't being adjusted by the computer at all.? So, I suspect I've completely hosed up the CAT parameters. Can anyone send me an email (hamdan at ix.netcom.com) and walk me through the process of getting SatPC32 properly working for CAT purposes?? Like I said, the hardware is working fine.? It's the software.? It's also the sysop. :-( I appreciate any help you can give me. 73 de Bernie, KF0QS From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Thu Jan 11 05:26:53 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 05:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle In-Reply-To: References: <160e27e0217-171e-511f@webjas-vab213.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <1645147171.896999.1515648413616@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Mark, Just of confirm need to enter the center freq in the FCHID2 ??73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: Mark L. Hammond To: David G0MRF ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2018 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle Hello David! From time to time with the FCDPP I find this helpful to do if something is going "wrong": exit FoxTLM unplug/plug in FCDPP followed by launching FCHID2.002.exe then resetting to default values, then setting the frequency to the "center" frequency I want to use with FoxTLM followed by launching FoxTLM That fixes about anything "weird" I've seen!? Give that a go. Mark N8MH At 06:53 PM 1/10/2018 -0500, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Hi all. > >I've returned from a break over Christmas and noticed the signal level on my fox-tlm screen has dropped. >I've also noticed that the various parameters for the dongle include? LNA and Mixer gain along with IF bandwidth of 200kHz >However, there is also a box that says RF filter and that is set to 0-4MHz. > >I can't see anyway to change the RF filter setting !? I assume this should be 2m to select the internal SAW filter. >Any idea where I can start looking? > >Many thanks > >David? G0MRF >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 06:07:04 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:07:04 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yea "L-band Downshifter"! Something to schedule during Experimenter's Wednesdays, perhaps? Best wishes for a successful launch, Greg KO6TH Paul Stoetzer wrote: > For those that prefer a hardcopy format, here is a link to a PDF > version of "Getting Ready for Fox-1D." > > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> AMSAT?s next Fox-1 satellite, Fox-1D, is scheduled for launch at 03:58 >> UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:58pm EST on Thursday, January 11th) from >> Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. Further information >> about the launch and the satellite's early operations, including >> preliminary TLEs and FoxTelem settings suggestions, can be found at >> https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ >> >> 73, >> >> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM >> Executive Vice President >> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g0kla at arrl.net Thu Jan 11 09:23:39 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 04:23:39 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle In-Reply-To: <1645147171.896999.1515648413616@mail.yahoo.com> References: <160e27e0217-171e-511f@webjas-vab213.srv.aolmail.net> <1645147171.896999.1515648413616@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If all of the parameters are greyed out, including LNA and Mixer Gain, then something else has opened the connection to the Dongle and FoxTelem can't read the parameters or set them. FoxTelem will still read the audio from the dongle because it is a different interface. This allows you to have multiple programs all reading from the same dongle, but only one can open the connection and control it. If LNA/Mixer gain are not greyed out and the filter is set to an odd value, then something in the dongle has gone funny, as Mark said. Un-plug and re-plug should be enough, but his more extensive procedure should surely work. Chris On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Nitin Muttin via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Hi Mark, > Just of confirm need to enter the center freq in the FCHID2 ? 73 > Nitin [VU3TYG] > > From: Mark L. Hammond > To: David G0MRF ; amsat-bb at amsat.org > Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2018 7:21 AM > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle > > Hello David! > > From time to time with the FCDPP I find this helpful to do if something > is going "wrong": > > exit FoxTLM > unplug/plug in FCDPP > followed by launching FCHID2.002.exe then resetting to default values, > then setting the frequency to the "center" frequency I want to use with > FoxTLM > followed by launching FoxTLM > > That fixes about anything "weird" I've seen! Give that a go. > > Mark N8MH > > At 06:53 PM 1/10/2018 -0500, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote: > >Hi all. > > > >I've returned from a break over Christmas and noticed the signal level on > my fox-tlm screen has dropped. > >I've also noticed that the various parameters for the dongle include LNA > and Mixer gain along with IF bandwidth of 200kHz > >However, there is also a box that says RF filter and that is set to > 0-4MHz. > > > >I can't see anyway to change the RF filter setting ! I assume this > should be 2m to select the internal SAW filter. > >Any idea where I can start looking? > > > >Many thanks > > > >David G0MRF > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From rico.van.genugten at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 09:52:57 2018 From: rico.van.genugten at gmail.com (Rico van Genugten) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:52:57 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Diplexer recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <8f9f9777-4379-4ef0-a6de-c065fcaa2421@Spark> <444ca7c7-a27d-6403-48cc-f3df421d3879@gmail.com> <597788882.3476533.1515517857601@mail.yahoo.com> <7781bd16-e5c1-0f9e-bd1b-96aaa1dc8fc9@vt.edu> Message-ID: HI all, Thanks Mike, really helpful. It seems that the MFJ is about 10 dB better regarding UHF rejection on the VHF port according to your measurements, which would help battling desense. It seems the absolute minimum of about -70 dB is around 380 MHz though, so a bit of tuning might make it even better. 73, Rico PA3RVG On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > I know I am a little late to the party, but I wanted to contribute. A > while back, I was able to sweep 2 of the diplexers I had on the VNA at > work. I have a Comet CFX-514, and the MFJ-916B. > > Attached is the information. > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Rico van Genugten < > rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks for the link to the article Adrian, that's a very good comparison. >> It seems that the differences between the Comet, MFJ and Diamond are minor >> and they all meet their specs, with the exception of UHF isolation on the >> VHF port, which is in the 55-60 dB range for all units. This is in >> agreement with the measurements done by Zach on the Comet. According to >> the >> QST article the Comet's input SWR is a bit higher on the VHF port (1.3:1) >> and the Diamond and MFJ's input SWR is a bit higher on the UHF port (1.4:1 >> and 1.3:1), but nothing too shocking. >> >> I ended up ordering a set of MFJ-916BN's from MFJ directly. Shipping to >> the >> Netherlands is 29 dollars. Not too bad considered the unit price and the >> current dollar to euro rate. >> >> Thanks all, I will let you know how they perform when I get them. As >> stated >> before, I will not be using them back to back as in Floyd's situation, but >> rather run two feedlines and connect a diplexer to each of them. >> >> 73, >> Rico >> PA3RVG >> ? >> >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Zach Leffke wrote: >> >> > I use Comet CF-4160Ns in the VT ground station. A while back (June of >> > 2016) I measured the insertion loss and isolation for a single diplexer >> > with a calibrated Rhode and Schwarz network analyzer 'on the bench' and >> the >> > numbers are close to the spec (with a 50 Ohm termination on the 'unused' >> > port for the two port measurements of a three port device). >> > >> > The claimed numbers are 0.1dB for VHF insertion loss, 0.2dB for UHF >> > insertion loss, and a blanket '60 dB' for isolation. In that controlled >> > measurement situation, for the COM to VHF port path (with a 50 >> termination >> > on the UHF port) I got 0.048 dB of insertion loss at VHF and 59.695 dB >> of >> > UHF isolation. For the COM to UHF port path (50 ohm termination on the >> VHF >> > port) I got 0.100 dB of insertion loss at UHF and 73.812 dB of VHF >> > isolation. >> > >> > So technically the measured performance did better than the claimed >> > performance on everything except the UHF isolation from the VHF port >> which >> > only missed the claimed spec by about .3 dB (assuming I didn't screw up >> the >> > cal process). >> > >> > All of that though, was for a /single/ diplexer. >> > >> > I'd have to think more about the ganging of two diplexers on either end >> of >> > the cable and whether or not you'd actually get the full 'double >> > isolation'. Something about that first diplexer and internal coupling >> or >> > reflected UHF energy if the there is any mismatch causing UHF energy >> (from >> > say a VHF third harmonic) leaking back into the UHF radio. Maybe not if >> > you have a good match.....but then coupling at the antennas and an LNA >> with >> > gain in the mix.........interesting problem to fully think through and >> sort >> > out the details........ >> > >> > On the surface though, if you had two diplexers, one on either side of >> the >> > cable, and inserted a UHF signal into the VHF port on one side and then >> > measured the UHF signal power on the VHF port of the diplexer on the >> other >> > side, there would be about 120dB or so of loss in that path (2 times the >> > isolation plus the cable's insertion loss).......just not sure thats an >> > appropriate test considering that's not quite how the actual system is >> > installed when antennas and LNAs and radios are all in the mix and >> matches >> > aren't all perfect. >> > >> > Fun stuff to think about though! >> > >> > -Zach, KJ4QLP >> > >> > Research Associate >> > Aerospace Systems Lab >> > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology >> > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University >> > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 >> > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 >> > >> > >> > On 1/9/2018 2:18 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: >> > >> >> Since I don't believe the isolation numbers, are they measured or >> claimed? >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> N4HY >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Floyd Rodgers >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I use diamond mx72n pair to allow a 100 ft run from shack to antennas >> >>> using 7/8" hardline. .1db loss and plenty of power at 400/250w fm. >> >>> isolation of the units back to back is 120db uhf/vhf which is plenty >> to >> >>> run >> >>> satellite with two radios and two antennas. >> >>> >> >>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 10:22 AM, Paul Stoetzer < >> n8hm at arrl.net> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Page 10 of PA1IVO's presentation at the 2011 AMSAT-UK Colloquium >> >>> includes measurements of the Wimo Diplexer. It appears to have very >> >>> good specs in general, though it looks like losses were measured at >> >>> 1.45 dB at 436 MHz, which is a bit high. >> >>> >> >>> https://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/pa1ivo/doc/AmsatColloquium2011.pdf >> >>> >> >>> 73, >> >>> >> >>> Paul, N8HM >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Rico van Genugten >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi all, >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks for the recommendation Patrick, I have contacted MFJ and hope >> >>>> they >> >>>> will ship a couple of them to the Netherlands. I have also contacted >> >>>> WiMo >> >>>> for some specs on their diplexers as they aren't available on their >> >>>> website, I will share them on this list when I receive them. >> >>>> >> >>>> 73, >> >>>> Rico PA3RVG >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < >> >>>> amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Rico, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I had used either Comet or Diamond diplexers in the past, until I >> >>>>> found the MFJ diplexers were about half the price of the Comet and >> >>>>> Diamond units, with what I saw as comparable performance. WiMo in >> >>>>> the US is like your description of MFJ in Europe; I've never seen >> >>>>> or tried WiMo diplexers. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> One review I saw a while back actually showed the MFJ-916B to be >> >>>>> much better than Diamond's MX-72: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.w4gso.org/news/comparing-duplexers-mfj-vs-diamond/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The pictures and screenshots aren't in this article, but the text >> >>>>> tells the story of this comparison. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 73! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK >> >>>>> http://www.wd9ewk.net/ >> >>>>> Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Rico van Genugten < >> >>>>> rico.van.genugten at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hi all, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I'm using an FT-897D for TX (non-duplex), and an Airspy and >> computer >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> for >> >>> >> >>>> RX. Good idea to use four switches Greg, in fact that's what I'm >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> currently >> >>> >> >>>> doing. With four switches you always use one antenna for RX and the >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> other >> >>> >> >>>> for TX though, I want to be able to use the same antenna for RX and >> TX >> >>>>>> when >> >>>>>> that works better with the current satellite orientation. Using two >> >>>>>> switches and two diplexers I would be able to independently select >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> which >> >>> >> >>>> antenna to use for RX, and which one to use for TX. I posted the >> >>>>>> connection >> >>>>>> scheme on twitter (warning, mspaint ahead): >> >>>>>> https://twitter.com/PA3RVG/status/950649511935905792 >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> But we are drifting from the original question: which diplexers? I >> >>>>>> have >> >>>>>> heard good stories about the MFJ-916, but its availability is not >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> great in >> >>> >> >>>> Europe. What about Comet, Diamond or Wimo? Are they any good? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>> Rico >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available >> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >>>> >> >>> Opinions expressed >> >>> >> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of >> >>>> >> >>> AMSAT-NA. >> >>> >> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >>>> >> >>> program! >> >>> >> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/l >> istinfo/amsat-bb >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > From marklhammond at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 11:46:56 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 06:46:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle In-Reply-To: <1645147171.896999.1515648413616@mail.yahoo.com> References: <160e27e0217-171e-511f@webjas-vab213.srv.aolmail.net> <1645147171.896999.1515648413616@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Nitin, I use 145930 for center frequency in FoxTLM. Mark N8MH At 05:26 AM 1/11/2018 +0000, Nitin Muttin via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Hi Mark, Just of confirm need to enter the center freq in the FCHID2 ?? 73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: Mark L. Hammond To: David G0MRF ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2018 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle Hello David! From time to time with the FCDPP I find this helpful to do if something is going "wrong": exit FoxTLM unplug/plug in FCDPP followed by launching FCHID2.002.exe then resetting to default values, then setting the frequency to the "center" frequency I want to use with FoxTLM followed by launching FoxTLM That fixes about anything "weird" I've seen!? Give that a go. Mark N8MH At 06:53 PM 1/10/2018 -0500, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Hi all. > >I've returned from a break over Christmas and noticed the signal level on my fox-tlm screen has dropped. >I've also noticed that the various parameters for the dongle include? LNA and Mixer gain along with IF bandwidth of 200kHz >However, there is also a box that says RF filter and that is set to 0-4MHz. > >I can't see anyway to change the RF filter setting !? I assume this should be 2m to select the internal SAW filter. >Any idea where I can start looking? > >Many thanks > >David? G0MRF >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From bruninga at usna.edu Thu Jan 11 15:19:47 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:19:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] YB0X digipeating? Message-ID: <345d946d59a280158cbf8750828a817f@mail.gmail.com> Yono, I just looked at some web pages that are captureing YB0X packets and I do not see any digipeated packets? Is this because the digi is off, or there have not been any recent users? Or the web pages are not looking for YBOX-1* etc? For example SATWATCH: http://59.167.159.165/ And this one: https://yc3bvg.blogspot.com/2015/12/raw-data-yb0x-1-digipeater-on-io-86.ht ml Or am I looking in the wrong place? Thanks Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: Suryono Adisoemarta [mailto:yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 11:20 AM To: Robert Bruninga Cc: Scott Miller ; aprssig at tapr.org; Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] What satellite is this ? Bob , The callsign: YB0X-1 Alias: YBSAT Callsign substitution on alias The hardware is Tracker2 I believe I emailed you in 2011 when the payload was complete and waiting for launch opportunity. Note: I can add APRSAT as another alias. 73 de Yono - YD0NXX / N5SNN Sent from my mobile device > On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > > Scott, > > What kind of digipeater is it? We need to know how to parse the digi > path to pull it out as a satellite digipeated packet. > > > > What aliases does it support? Only YOBX-1 as a path? or does it also > support APRSAT and ARISS? > > > > Does it do callsign substitution or insertion? > > IE, when it digipeates on an alias does it do substitution like this: > YBOX-1*, > > Or does it do substitution like this: YBOX-1,APRSAT*? > > > > Then Steve can add a parser for it to show up on pcsat.findu.com > > Bob > > > > *From:* aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott > Miller > *Sent:* Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:01 PM > *To:* aprssig at tapr.org > *Subject:* Re: [aprssig] What satellite is this ? > > > > Oh hey, that's one of mine! LAPAN-A2/ORARI is carrying a Tracker2 as > a sub-payload. > > Scott > N1VG > > On 8/10/2017 3:28 PM, vk2tv wrote: > > Andrew, > > It really isn't rocket science to put "Indonesia YB0X" into Google and > arrive at the answer. > > This was the first hit .... > https://aprs.link/app/aprs/stations/basic-YB0X-1 > > Ray vk2tv > > > > On 10/08/17 19:08, Andrew Rich wrote: > > Guys > > > > I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets > > > > What are they from ? > > > > 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE [11:32:31R] [+++] > >> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017 > > > > 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE [11:36:11R] [+++] > >> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017 > > > > Andrew > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aprssig mailing list > > aprssig at tapr.org > > http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aprssig mailing list > > aprssig at tapr.org > > http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ok2gz at seznam.cz Thu Jan 11 12:18:42 2018 From: ok2gz at seznam.cz (ok2gz) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:18:42 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D Message-ID: <7d3a9475-05e3-d291-7809-5b01ab2dfdfb@seznam.cz> I tried to use preliminary data for FOX-1D from https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ , by N8MH, but my GPredict refused them ( new satellites = 0 ) . So I wrote small program for check and repair of TLE data. Here they are: preFox-1D 1 99934U 1801D 18012.17965046 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 18 2 99934 97.5670 73.8289 0005699 284.7026 298.7182 15.21980622 19 You can try my program at the web address: http://oscar.ok2gz.eu/fox1d.php 73??? Jarda ok2gz --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Thu Jan 11 15:51:28 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] YB0X digipeating? In-Reply-To: <345d946d59a280158cbf8750828a817f@mail.gmail.com> References: <345d946d59a280158cbf8750828a817f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <490862963.1311474.1515685888710@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bob, It is digipeating,I tried a couple of days back but there is a schedule for activation of ?the various payloads and is published on the amsat ID facebook account.I am not sure if there is place like ariss.net or pcsat.findu.com for Lapan A2 where the satgate data is captured.?73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: Robert Bruninga To: Suryono Adisoemarta Cc: Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2018 8:53 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] YB0X digipeating? Yono, I just looked at some web pages that are captureing YB0X packets and I do not see any digipeated packets?? Is this because the digi is off, or there have not been any recent users?? Or the web pages are not looking for YBOX-1* etc? For example SATWATCH:? http://59.167.159.165/ And this one: https://yc3bvg.blogspot.com/2015/12/raw-data-yb0x-1-digipeater-on-io-86.ht ml Or am I looking in the wrong place? Thanks Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: Suryono Adisoemarta [mailto:yono_adisoemarta at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 11:20 AM To: Robert Bruninga Cc: Scott Miller ; aprssig at tapr.org; Suryono Adisoemarta via AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] What satellite is this ? Bob , The callsign: YB0X-1 Alias: YBSAT Callsign substitution on alias The hardware is Tracker2 I believe I emailed you in 2011 when the payload was complete and waiting for launch opportunity. Note: I can add APRSAT as another alias. 73 de Yono - YD0NXX / N5SNN Sent from my mobile device > On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > > Scott, > > What kind of digipeater is it?? We need to know how to parse the digi > path to pull it out as a satellite digipeated packet. > > > > What aliases does it support?? Only YOBX-1 as a path? or does it also > support APRSAT and ARISS? > > > > Does it do callsign substitution or insertion? > > IE, when it digipeates on an alias does it do substitution like this: > YBOX-1*, > > Or does it do substitution like this: YBOX-1,APRSAT*? > > > > Then Steve can add a parser for it to show up on pcsat.findu.com > > Bob > > > > *From:* aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott > Miller > *Sent:* Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:01 PM > *To:* aprssig at tapr.org > *Subject:* Re: [aprssig] What satellite is this ? > > > > Oh hey, that's one of mine!? LAPAN-A2/ORARI is carrying a Tracker2 as > a sub-payload. > > Scott > N1VG > > On 8/10/2017 3:28 PM, vk2tv wrote: > > Andrew, > > It really isn't rocket science to put "Indonesia YB0X" into Google and > arrive at the answer. > > This was the first hit .... > https://aprs.link/app/aprs/stations/basic-YB0X-1 > > Ray vk2tv > > > > On 10/08/17 19:08, Andrew Rich wrote: > > Guys > > > > I left my satgate running on 145.825 and snagged these packets > > > > What are they from ? > > > > 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE [11:32:31R] [+++] > >> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017 > > > > 1:Fm YB0X-1 To APOT21 Via SGATE [11:36:11R] [+++] > >> -4C DARK NIGHT MOMENT FOR INDONESIAN SPACE DAY AUGUST 6 th 2017 > > > > Andrew > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aprssig mailing list > > aprssig at tapr.org > > http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aprssig mailing list > > aprssig at tapr.org > > http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Thu Jan 11 15:53:45 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D In-Reply-To: <7d3a9475-05e3-d291-7809-5b01ab2dfdfb@seznam.cz> References: <7d3a9475-05e3-d291-7809-5b01ab2dfdfb@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <458715119.1304426.1515686025265@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks this is really useful, many a times I would spent time trying manually.?73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: ok2gz To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2018 8:56 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D I tried to use preliminary data for FOX-1D from https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ , by N8MH, but my GPredict refused them ( new satellites = 0 ) . So I wrote small program for check and repair of TLE data. Here they are: preFox-1D 1 99934U 1801D? ? 18012.17965046? .00000000? 00000-0? 00000-0 0? ? 18 2 99934? 97.5670? 73.8289 0005699 284.7026 298.7182 15.21980622? ? 19 You can try my program at the web address: http://oscar.ok2gz.eu/fox1d.php 73??? Jarda ok2gz --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at amsat.org Thu Jan 11 18:32:59 2018 From: n8hm at amsat.org (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:32:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs Message-ID: Good afternoon, Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth stage fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D are: Fox-1D 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 19 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 17 Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will be working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please follow the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live updates. If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an SDR, make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's downlink), then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American satellites on the launch at 5:02 of the video https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission-curtain-0 Live launch video will be available at https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jan 11 18:37:57 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:37:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please use the TLEs in the previous post. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth stage > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D > are: > > Fox-1D > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 19 > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 17 > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will be > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please follow > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live updates. > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an SDR, > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's downlink), > then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American satellites > on the launch at 5:02 of the video > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission-curtain-0 > > Live launch video will be available at > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission > > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) From david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 19:06:51 2018 From: david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:06:51 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D to SatPC32? Thanks, Dave, W9DWJ On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please > use the TLEs in the previous post. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth stage > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D > > are: > > > > Fox-1D > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 19 > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 17 > > > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will be > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please follow > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live updates. > > > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an SDR, > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's downlink), > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American satellites > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission-curtain-0 > > > > Live launch video will be available at > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission > > > > > > 73, > > > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > > Executive Vice President > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- David Johnson From kb1pvh at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 19:48:53 2018 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:48:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, in the SatPC32 manual, but also here. https://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/23/adding-new-satellites-to-satpc32/ Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S7 On Jan 11, 2018 2:40 PM, "David Johnson" wrote: > Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D to > SatPC32? > > Thanks, > Dave, W9DWJ > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on > > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at > > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ > > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > > > > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please > > use the TLEs in the previous post. > > > > 73, > > > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > > Good afternoon, > > > > > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth stage > > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the > > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D > > > are: > > > > > > Fox-1D > > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 19 > > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 17 > > > > > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will be > > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please follow > > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook > > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live updates. > > > > > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry > > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an SDR, > > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's downlink), > > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 > > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American satellites > > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video > > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission-curtain-0 > > > > > > Live launch video will be available at > > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > satellite-mission > > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > > > Executive Vice President > > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > -- > David Johnson > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From burns at fisher.cc Thu Jan 11 19:49:31 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:49:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE in a file in the same directory as the rest of the keps. Look under the "Satellites" menu and see "Path:" It is something like username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler. The go to that same menu and dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just put there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a previous file. You might also edit the previous file you were using (like nasa.all) and add Fox-1D to the end. Just don't update it until you hear that the Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there. BTW, when 1D is open to the public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone there. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson wrote: > Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D to > SatPC32? > > Thanks, > Dave, W9DWJ > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on > > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at > > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ > > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > > > > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please > > use the TLEs in the previous post. > > > > 73, > > > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > > Good afternoon, > > > > > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth stage > > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the > > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D > > > are: > > > > > > Fox-1D > > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 19 > > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 17 > > > > > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will be > > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please follow > > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook > > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live updates. > > > > > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry > > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an SDR, > > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's downlink), > > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 > > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American satellites > > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video > > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission-curtain-0 > > > > > > Live launch video will be available at > > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > satellite-mission > > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > > > Executive Vice President > > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > -- > David Johnson > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From dxdx at optonline.net Thu Jan 11 20:17:17 2018 From: dxdx at optonline.net (Tony) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:17:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PK96 TNC / Falconsat Message-ID: <8dc21560-12c8-f8dd-c273-481a341a7f78@optonline.net> All: Anyone in the group using the PK-96 TNC for 9600 baud satellites? Tony -K2MO From david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 20:19:01 2018 From: david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:19:01 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the help. I'm pretty new to SatPC32 and the manual leaves some questions unaswered. Is there an entry for the Doppler.SQF file or will that come later? For now I can at least see and follow the footprint on the map. Thanks again! Dave, W9DWJ On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE in > a file in the same directory as the rest of the keps. Look under the > "Satellites" menu and see "Path:" It is something like > username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler. The go to that same menu and > dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just put > there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). > > Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a previous > file. You might also edit the previous file you were using (like nasa.all) > and add Fox-1D to the end. Just don't update it until you hear that the > Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there. BTW, when 1D is open to the > public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone there. > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson < > david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D to >> SatPC32? >> >> Thanks, >> Dave, W9DWJ >> >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> >> > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on >> > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at >> > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ >> > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf >> > >> > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please >> > use the TLEs in the previous post. >> > >> > 73, >> > >> > Paul, N8HM >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> > > Good afternoon, >> > > >> > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth stage >> > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the >> > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D >> > > are: >> > > >> > > Fox-1D >> > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 19 >> > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 17 >> > > >> > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will be >> > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please follow >> > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook >> > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live updates. >> > > >> > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry >> > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an SDR, >> > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's downlink), >> > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 >> > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American satellites >> > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video >> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- >> > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-missi >> on-curtain-0 >> > > >> > > Live launch video will be available at >> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- >> > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-sate >> llite-mission >> > > >> > > >> > > 73, >> > > >> > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM >> > > Executive Vice President >> > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> > expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> > AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> David Johnson >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > -- David Johnson From marklhammond at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 20:31:17 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:31:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For Doppler.SQF, might as well add the others now, too! (Thanks to Alan WA4SCA is in order, I think..) FOX-1C,145920,435300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary FOX-1C,145920,1267300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary L-up FOX-1D,145880,435350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary FOX-1D,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary L-up FOX-1E,435915.0,145885.0,USB,LSB,0,0,+/-30 KHz On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:19 PM, David Johnson wrote: > Thanks for the help. I'm pretty new to SatPC32 and the manual leaves some > questions unaswered. Is there an entry for the Doppler.SQF file or will > that come later? For now I can at least see and follow the footprint on > the map. Thanks again! > > Dave, W9DWJ > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > > > There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE in > > a file in the same directory as the rest of the keps. Look under the > > "Satellites" menu and see "Path:" It is something like > > username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler. The go to that same menu and > > dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just > put > > there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). > > > > Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a > previous > > file. You might also edit the previous file you were using (like > nasa.all) > > and add Fox-1D to the end. Just don't update it until you hear that the > > Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there. BTW, when 1D is open to the > > public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone > there. > > > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson < > > david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D > to > >> SatPC32? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Dave, W9DWJ > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> > >> > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on > >> > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at > >> > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ > >> > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > >> > > >> > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please > >> > use the TLEs in the previous post. > >> > > >> > 73, > >> > > >> > Paul, N8HM > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer > wrote: > >> > > Good afternoon, > >> > > > >> > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth > stage > >> > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the > >> > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for > Fox-1D > >> > > are: > >> > > > >> > > Fox-1D > >> > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 > 19 > >> > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 > 17 > >> > > > >> > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will > be > >> > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please > follow > >> > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook > >> > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live > updates. > >> > > > >> > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry > >> > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an > SDR, > >> > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's > downlink), > >> > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the > PSLV-C40 > >> > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American > satellites > >> > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video > >> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > >> > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-missi > >> on-curtain-0 > >> > > > >> > > Live launch video will be available at > >> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > >> > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-sate > >> llite-mission > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 73, > >> > > > >> > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > >> > > Executive Vice President > >> > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions > >> > expressed > >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >> > AMSAT-NA. > >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David Johnson > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > > > > > > -- > David Johnson > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From wa4sca at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 20:32:38 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:32:38 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d38b1b$5277d800$f7678800$@gmail.com> Dave, Here are the lines for Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D: FOX-1Cliff,145920,435300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,U/V FOX-1Cliff,145920,1267300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,L/V FOX-1D,145880,435350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,U/V FOX-1D,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,L/V Note that when they get an Oscar number, you will need to change the name in each line to match, so SatPC32 will connect the two. Same for the Tone.sqf file. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: < <> There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE in <> a file in the same directory as the rest of the keps. Look under the <> "Satellites" menu and see "Path:" It is something like <> username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler. The go to that same menu dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just put <> there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). <> <> Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a previous <> file. You might also edit the previous file you were using (like nasa.all) <> and add Fox-1D to the end. Just don't update it until you hear that the <> Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there. BTW, when 1D is open to the <> public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone there. <> <> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson < <> david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: <> <>> Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D to <>> SatPC32? <>> <>> Thanks, <>> Dave, W9DWJ <>> <>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: <>> <>> > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on <>> > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at <>> > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ <>> > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf <>> > <>> > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please <>> > use the TLEs in the previous post. <>> > <>> > 73, <>> > <>> > Paul, N8HM <>> > <>> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer > > > Good afternoon, <>> > > <>> > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth stage <>> > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the <>> > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox- <1D <>> > > are: <>> > > <>> > > Fox-1D <>> > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 19 <>> > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 17 <>> > > <>> > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will be <>> > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please follow <>> > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America > > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live > > > <>> > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry <>> > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an > > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's > > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 <>> > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American satellites <>> > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video <>> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- <>> > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-missi <>> on-curtain-0 <>> > > <>> > > Live launch video will be available at <>> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- <>> > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-sate <>> llite-mission <>> > > <>> > > <>> > > 73, <>> > > <>> > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM <>> > > Executive Vice President <>> > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) <>> > _______________________________________________ <>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> Opinions <>> > expressed <>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>> > AMSAT-NA. <>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>> program! <>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> > <>> <>> <>> <>> -- <>> David Johnson <>> _______________________________________________ <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> Opinions expressed <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>> AMSAT-NA. <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> <> <> < < <-- References: <000001d38b1b$5277d800$f7678800$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Excellent! Thank you! On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Alan wrote: > Dave, > > Here are the lines for Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D: > > FOX-1Cliff,145920,435300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,U/V > FOX-1Cliff,145920,1267300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,L/V > > FOX-1D,145880,435350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,U/V > FOX-1D,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,L/V > > Note that when they get an Oscar number, you will need to change the name > in > each line to match, so SatPC32 will connect the two. Same for the Tone.sqf > file. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > < > < > wrote: > < > <> There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE > in > <> a file in the same directory as the rest of the keps. Look under the > <> "Satellites" menu and see "Path:" It is something like > <> username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler. The go to that same menu > <> dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just > put > <> there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). > <> > <> Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a > previous > <> file. You might also edit the previous file you were using (like > nasa.all) > <> and add Fox-1D to the end. Just don't update it until you hear that the > <> Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there. BTW, when 1D is open to the > <> public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone > there. > <> > <> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson < > <> david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: > <> > <>> Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D > to > <>> SatPC32? > <>> > <>> Thanks, > <>> Dave, W9DWJ > <>> > <>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > <>> > <>> > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on > <>> > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at > <>> > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ > <>> > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > <>> > > <>> > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please > <>> > use the TLEs in the previous post. > <>> > > <>> > 73, > <>> > > <>> > Paul, N8HM > <>> > > <>> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer > <>> > > Good afternoon, > <>> > > > <>> > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth > stage > <>> > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the > <>> > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for > Fox- > <1D > <>> > > are: > <>> > > > <>> > > Fox-1D > <>> > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 > 19 > <>> > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 > 17 > <>> > > > <>> > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will > be > <>> > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please > follow > <>> > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America > <>> > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live > <>> > > > <>> > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry > <>> > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an > <>> > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's > <>> > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the > PSLV-C40 > <>> > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American > satellites > <>> > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video > <>> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > <>> > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-missi > <>> on-curtain-0 > <>> > > > <>> > > Live launch video will be available at > <>> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > <>> > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-sate > <>> llite-mission > <>> > > > <>> > > > <>> > > 73, > <>> > > > <>> > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > <>> > > Executive Vice President > <>> > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > <>> > _______________________________________________ > <>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > <>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > <>> Opinions > <>> > expressed > <>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > <>> > AMSAT-NA. > <>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > <>> program! > <>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > <>> > > <>> > <>> > <>> > <>> -- > <>> David Johnson > <>> _______________________________________________ > <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > <>> Opinions expressed > <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > <>> AMSAT-NA. > <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > <>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > <>> > <> > <> > < > < > <-- > <_______________________________________________ > AMSAT- > > -- David Johnson From david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 20:50:56 2018 From: david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:50:56 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great! Thanks! Dave, W9DWJ On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote: > For Doppler.SQF, might as well add the others now, too! (Thanks to Alan > WA4SCA is in order, I think..) > > FOX-1C,145920,435300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary > FOX-1C,145920,1267300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary L-up > FOX-1D,145880,435350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary > FOX-1D,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary L-up > FOX-1E,435915.0,145885.0,USB,LSB,0,0,+/-30 KHz > > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:19 PM, David Johnson < > david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the help. I'm pretty new to SatPC32 and the manual leaves some >> questions unaswered. Is there an entry for the Doppler.SQF file or will >> that come later? For now I can at least see and follow the footprint on >> the map. Thanks again! >> >> Dave, W9DWJ >> >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: >> >> > There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE >> in >> > a file in the same directory as the rest of the keps. Look under the >> > "Satellites" menu and see "Path:" It is something like >> > username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler. The go to that same menu and >> > dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just >> put >> > there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). >> > >> > Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a >> previous >> > file. You might also edit the previous file you were using (like >> nasa.all) >> > and add Fox-1D to the end. Just don't update it until you hear that the >> > Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there. BTW, when 1D is open to the >> > public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone >> there. >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson < >> > david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D >> to >> >> SatPC32? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave, W9DWJ >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> >> >> >> > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on >> >> > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at >> >> > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ >> >> > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf >> >> > >> >> > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please >> >> > use the TLEs in the previous post. >> >> > >> >> > 73, >> >> > >> >> > Paul, N8HM >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer >> wrote: >> >> > > Good afternoon, >> >> > > >> >> > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth >> stage >> >> > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the >> >> > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for >> Fox-1D >> >> > > are: >> >> > > >> >> > > Fox-1D >> >> > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 >> 19 >> >> > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 >> 17 >> >> > > >> >> > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will >> be >> >> > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please >> follow >> >> > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook >> >> > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live >> updates. >> >> > > >> >> > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry >> >> > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an >> SDR, >> >> > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's >> downlink), >> >> > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the >> PSLV-C40 >> >> > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American >> satellites >> >> > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video >> >> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- >> >> > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-missi >> >> on-curtain-0 >> >> > > >> >> > > Live launch video will be available at >> >> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- >> >> > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-sate >> >> llite-mission >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > 73, >> >> > > >> >> > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM >> >> > > Executive Vice President >> >> > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available >> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >> Opinions >> >> > expressed >> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of >> >> > AMSAT-NA. >> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >> program! >> >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/l >> istinfo/amsat-bb >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Johnson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >> Opinions expressed >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of >> >> AMSAT-NA. >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> David Johnson >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > -- David Johnson From AJ9N at aol.com Fri Jan 12 00:19:04 2018 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:19:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-12 00:00 UTC Message-ID: <5fe035.1e29e8.478958f7@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-12 00:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Prva srednja informati?ka ?kola, Zagreb, Croatia, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-01-18 08:46:52 UTC 34 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 127 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-01-12 00:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1201. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1150. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From n8hm at amsat.org Fri Jan 12 00:25:53 2018 From: n8hm at amsat.org (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:25:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Handy Links for the Fox-1D Launch Message-ID: Less than four hours until launch! Here are some handy links to keep track of tonight's launch and the early orbits of Fox-1D Fox-1D Launch Live Blog https://www.amsat.org/fox-1d-launch-live-blog/ Fox Telemetry Leaderboard (With links to FoxTelem) http://www.amsat.org/tlm/ AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page (Report Fox-1D reception here) http://amsat.org/status/ Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf Live Launch Video (Video will be live at 03:30 UTC) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNEcE7-odCo In addition to the live blog, updates will be found on AMSAT's Twitter account (@AMSAT). Note that you do not need to be a Twitter user to view AMSAT's tweets. https://twitter.com/AMSAT The latest prelaunch Keps can be found in AMSAT's Keps distribution. Any tracking software using the AMSAT Keps distribution should identify new object "99934" after refreshing your Keps. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 01:02:31 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:02:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Very excited here at VT. On Jan 11, 2018 3:56 PM, "David Johnson" wrote: > Great! Thanks! > > Dave, W9DWJ > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Mark L. Hammond > wrote: > > > For Doppler.SQF, might as well add the others now, too! (Thanks to Alan > > WA4SCA is in order, I think..) > > > > FOX-1C,145920,435300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary > > FOX-1C,145920,1267300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary L-up > > FOX-1D,145880,435350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary > > FOX-1D,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Preliminary L-up > > FOX-1E,435915.0,145885.0,USB,LSB,0,0,+/-30 KHz > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:19 PM, David Johnson < > > david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the help. I'm pretty new to SatPC32 and the manual leaves > some > >> questions unaswered. Is there an entry for the Doppler.SQF file or will > >> that come later? For now I can at least see and follow the footprint on > >> the map. Thanks again! > >> > >> Dave, W9DWJ > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > >> > >> > There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE > >> in > >> > a file in the same directory as the rest of the keps. Look under the > >> > "Satellites" menu and see "Path:" It is something like > >> > username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler. The go to that same menu > and > >> > dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just > >> put > >> > there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). > >> > > >> > Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a > >> previous > >> > file. You might also edit the previous file you were using (like > >> nasa.all) > >> > and add Fox-1D to the end. Just don't update it until you hear that > the > >> > Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there. BTW, when 1D is open to > the > >> > public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone > >> there. > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson < > >> > david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox > 1-D > >> to > >> >> SatPC32? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Dave, W9DWJ > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible > on > >> >> > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at > >> >> > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ > >> >> > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > >> >> > > >> >> > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please > >> >> > use the TLEs in the previous post. > >> >> > > >> >> > 73, > >> >> > > >> >> > Paul, N8HM > >> >> > > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer > >> wrote: > >> >> > > Good afternoon, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth > >> stage > >> >> > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the > >> >> > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for > >> Fox-1D > >> >> > > are: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Fox-1D > >> >> > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 > >> 19 > >> >> > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 > >> 17 > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it > will > >> be > >> >> > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please > >> follow > >> >> > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America > Facebook > >> >> > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live > >> updates. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry > >> >> > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an > >> SDR, > >> >> > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's > >> downlink), > >> >> > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the > >> PSLV-C40 > >> >> > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American > >> satellites > >> >> > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video > >> >> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > >> >> > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-missi > >> >> on-curtain-0 > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Live launch video will be available at > >> >> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > >> >> > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-sate > >> >> llite-mission > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > 73, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > >> >> > > Executive Vice President > >> >> > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >> available > >> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> >> Opinions > >> >> > expressed > >> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > >> views of > >> >> > AMSAT-NA. > >> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> >> program! > >> >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/l > >> istinfo/amsat-bb > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> David Johnson > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> >> Opinions expressed > >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >> of > >> >> AMSAT-NA. > >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David Johnson > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > > > > > > -- > David Johnson > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 01:14:10 2018 From: david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:14:10 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] GoSatWatch Message-ID: Just looked at my phone and noticed the GoSatWatch app is now updated with 99934 for Fox-1D. That was quick. -- David Johnson W9DWJ Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> From n0jy at amsat.org Fri Jan 12 01:53:06 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:53:06 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: <000001d38b1b$5277d800$f7678800$@gmail.com> References: <000001d38b1b$5277d800$f7678800$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <578a1818-ecae-ad77-aff6-0653ea1cb3b1@amsat.org> Do not forget, if you use a transverter or converter (perhaps for L band) then you need to add those numbers for your particular setup where the 0,0 are in these. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/11/2018 14:32, Alan wrote: > Dave, > > Here are the lines for Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D: > > FOX-1Cliff,145920,435300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,U/V > FOX-1Cliff,145920,1267300,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,L/V > > FOX-1D,145880,435350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,U/V > FOX-1D,145880,1267350,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,L/V > > Note that when they get an Oscar number, you will need to change the name in > each line to match, so SatPC32 will connect the two. Same for the Tone.sqf > file. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > < > < > wrote: > < > <> There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE in > <> a file in the same directory as the rest of the keps. Look under the > <> "Satellites" menu and see "Path:" It is something like > <> username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler. The go to that same menu > <> dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just > put > <> there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). > <> > <> Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a > previous > <> file. You might also edit the previous file you were using (like > nasa.all) > <> and add Fox-1D to the end. Just don't update it until you hear that the > <> Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there. BTW, when 1D is open to the > <> public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone > there. > <> > <> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson < > <> david.johnson.bbq at gmail.com> wrote: > <> > <>> Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D > to > <>> SatPC32? > <>> > <>> Thanks, > <>> Dave, W9DWJ > <>> > <>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > <>> > <>> > I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on > <>> > the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at > <>> > https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ > <>> > 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf > <>> > > <>> > Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please > <>> > use the TLEs in the previous post. > <>> > > <>> > 73, > <>> > > <>> > Paul, N8HM > <>> > > <>> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer > <>> > > Good afternoon, > <>> > > > <>> > > Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth > stage > <>> > > fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the > <>> > > countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox- > <1D > <>> > > are: > <>> > > > <>> > > Fox-1D > <>> > > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 > 19 > <>> > > 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 > 17 > <>> > > > <>> > > Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will > be > <>> > > working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please > follow > <>> > > the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America > <>> > > page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live > <>> > > > <>> > > If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry > <>> > > (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an > <>> > > make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's > <>> > > then please take a look at the following video explaining the > PSLV-C40 > <>> > > mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American > satellites > <>> > > on the launch at 5:02 of the video > <>> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > <>> > satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-missi > <>> on-curtain-0 > <>> > > > <>> > > Live launch video will be available at > <>> > > https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- > <>> > satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-sate > <>> llite-mission > <>> > > > <>> > > > <>> > > 73, > <>> > > > <>> > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > <>> > > Executive Vice President > <>> > > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) > <>> > _______________________________________________ > <>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > <>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > <>> Opinions > <>> > expressed > <>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > <>> > AMSAT-NA. > <>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > <>> program! > <>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > <>> > > <>> > <>> > <>> > <>> -- > <>> David Johnson > <>> _______________________________________________ > <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > <>> Opinions expressed > <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > <>> AMSAT-NA. > <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > <>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > <>> > <> > <> > < > < > <-- > <_______________________________________________ > AMSAT- > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 02:45:07 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:45:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Blog] AMSAT-BB versus every Linux mailing list Message-ID: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/2018/01/12/amsat-bb-versus-every-linux-mailing-list/ "On AMSAT-BB, people ask for someone to call them on the phone and walk them through things. And people actually do it. On Linux and other open source mailing lists, when people ask basic questions they?re told to ?read the f*cking manual, noob.? 73, John Brier KG4AKV From wmy at isac.gov.in Fri Jan 12 02:46:40 2018 From: wmy at isac.gov.in (Mani [VU2WMY/KJ6LRS]) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:16:40 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] Updated Fox-1D Preliminary TLEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180112025104.517DC8F5A@lansing182.amsat.org> Good wishes and Greetings for a Grand Success of PSLV C40 Mission. Wishing the 'FOX 1D' team an early & successful commissioning of the wonderful bird. Wishing all the satellite teams aboard PSLV C40 a great success Greetings from India... Quoting Burns Fisher : > There probably are such instructions, but all I did was to put the TLE in a > file in the same directory as the rest of the keps.? Look under the > "Satellites" menu and see "Path:"? It is something like > username/AppData/Roaming/SatPC32/Kepler.? The go to that same menu and > dialog box (you may have to restart SatPC32), select the file you just put > there, and then select Fox-1D (the only sat in that file). > > Unfortunately, that wipes out the sats that you had chosen from a previous > file.? You might also edit the previous file you were using (like nasa.all) > and add Fox-1D to the end.? Just don't update it until you hear that the > Fox-1D, perhaps with a new name, is there.? BTW, when 1D is open to the > public, you will also want to edit subtone.sql and add the 67Hz tone there. > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, David Johnson > wrote: > >> Are there any instructions posted anywhere for manually adding Fox 1-D to >> SatPC32? >> >> Thanks, >> Dave, W9DWJ >> >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> >> I have just discovered that individual files are still accessible on >> the AMSAT website. The Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF is available at >> https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ >> 2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf >> >> Please note that the TLEs in that document are now outdated, please >> use the TLEs in the previous post. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >>> Good afternoon, >>> >>> Fox-1D launches in less than 10 hours! ISRO reports that fourth stage >>> fueling is complete, second stage fueling is underway, and the >>> countdown is proceeding nominally. Updated preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D >>> are: >>> >>> Fox-1D >>> 1 99934U 1801D? ? 18012.18138657? .00000000? 00000-0? 00000-0 0? ? 19 >>> 2 99934? 97.5671? 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581? ? 17 >>> >>> Unfortunately the AMSAT website is currently down. We hope it will be >>> working in time to provide launch coverage, but if not, please follow >>> the AMSAT Twitter account (@AMSAT) and AMSAT North America Facebook >>> page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/7828379515/) for live updates. >>> >>> If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry >>> (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an SDR, >>> make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's downlink), >>> then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 >>> mission. Fox-1D is featured prominently among the American satellites >>> on the launch at 5:02 of the video >>> https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- >> satellite-mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission-curtain-0 >>> >>> Live launch video will be available at >>> https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- >> satellite-mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series- >> satellite-mission >>> >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM >>> Executive Vice President >>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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On Linux and > other open source mailing lists, when people ask basic questions > they?re told to ?read the f*cking manual, noob.? > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 03:42:02 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 22:42:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Blog] AMSAT-BB versus every Linux mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LOL... Then they will tell you to read the source code. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: > To which I usually reply WF manual or "You mean TFM that is six versions > old?" > > > > On Jan 11, 2018 9:46 PM, "John Brier" wrote: >> >> >> https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/2018/01/12/amsat-bb-versus-every-linux-mailing-list/ >> >> "On AMSAT-BB, people ask for someone to call them on the phone and >> walk them through things. And people actually do it. On Linux and >> other open source mailing lists, when people ask basic questions >> they?re told to ?read the f*cking manual, noob.? >> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wthypsi at yahoo.com Fri Jan 12 04:55:20 2018 From: wthypsi at yahoo.com (William Herzberg) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 04:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] PSLV LAUNCH SUCCESSFUL... References: <1997455092.1705912.1515732920372.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1997455092.1705912.1515732920372@mail.yahoo.com> It was a textbook launch... Fox 1D is currently making it first approach towards the west coast... It should be approaching Hawaii... I watched the launch from indian TV... Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From n8hm at amsat.org Fri Jan 12 05:50:58 2018 From: n8hm at amsat.org (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:50:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Launched, Telemetry Received Message-ID: Fox-1D was successfully launched at 03:59 UTC on the PSLV-C40 mission from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. UA9UIZ received and uploaded the first telemetry to AMSAT servers at 05:28 UTC. Initial telemetry values appear nominal. The first set of post-launch Keplerian elements are reproduced below: Fox-1D 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18036412 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 15 2 99934 97.6514 74.0671 0008545 308.1824 275.3575 15.22876478 16 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 06:18:36 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:18:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Launched, Telemetry Received In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Woot! On Jan 12, 2018 12:52 AM, "Paul Stoetzer" wrote: > Fox-1D was successfully launched at 03:59 UTC on the PSLV-C40 mission > from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. UA9UIZ received > and uploaded the first telemetry to AMSAT servers at 05:28 UTC. > Initial telemetry values appear nominal. > > The first set of post-launch Keplerian elements are reproduced below: > > Fox-1D > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18036412 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 15 > 2 99934 97.6514 74.0671 0008545 308.1824 275.3575 15.22876478 16 > > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n0jy at amsat.org Fri Jan 12 06:59:13 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:59:13 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Launched, Telemetry Received In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: These elements are now available in nasabare.txt as well. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/11/2018 23:50, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Fox-1D was successfully launched at 03:59 UTC on the PSLV-C40 mission > from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. UA9UIZ received > and uploaded the first telemetry to AMSAT servers at 05:28 UTC. > Initial telemetry values appear nominal. > > The first set of post-launch Keplerian elements are reproduced below: > > Fox-1D > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18036412 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 15 > 2 99934 97.6514 74.0671 0008545 308.1824 275.3575 15.22876478 16 > > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From mw0vps at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 10:52:22 2018 From: mw0vps at gmail.com (Emyr Morris) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:52:22 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Blog] AMSAT-BB versus every Linux mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000434E4-026A-4D2F-9DD9-3181A6CDD4A7@gmail.com> Well written blog. Every day is a school day and a chance to learn something new! 73 MW0VPS > On 12 Jan 2018, at 02:45, John Brier wrote: > > https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/2018/01/12/amsat-bb-versus-every-linux-mailing-list/ > > "On AMSAT-BB, people ask for someone to call them on the phone and > walk them through things. And people actually do it. On Linux and > other open source mailing lists, when people ask basic questions > they?re told to ?read the f*cking manual, noob.? > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ns3l at yahoo.com Fri Jan 12 12:21:35 2018 From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D is now on GoSatWatch.. It's listed as "99934" in the Amateur radio folder References: <1501456481.1802488.1515759695948.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1501456481.1802488.1515759695948@mail.yahoo.com> FYI..!! Fox-1D is now on GoSatWatch.. It's listed as "99934" in the Amateur Radio Satellite folder..Steve NS3L From kb2mjeff at att.net Fri Jan 12 12:51:58 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:51:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D In-Reply-To: <3D775C7E3FAA4ECDA97B871A314830DF@CSI9020> References: <3D775C7E3FAA4ECDA97B871A314830DF@CSI9020> Message-ID: <3BDFD8025C0D4CA887D33018E5A5722D@kb2m4PC> I did a simple edit, spacing the data fields out like an existing entry in my keps file. They then were recognized by SatPC32... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Scott Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:36 AM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D Thanks for all the pre-launch info! I'm sure it's operator error, but I have not been able to get Orbitron to recognize those preliminary TLE's. Some of the digit positions (number of digits in certain fields) look different from all the other TLE's that are recognized. Thanks in advance if anyone can let me know how to clean up those pre-launch TLE's to work in Orbitron. Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR ========================================== -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stoetzer Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 8:41 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Getting Ready for Fox-1D For those that prefer a hardcopy format, here is a link to a PDF version of "Getting Ready for Fox-1D." https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Getting-Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf 73, Paul, N8HM ========================================== On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > AMSAT?s next Fox-1 satellite, Fox-1D, is scheduled for launch at 03:58 > UTC on January 12, 2018 (10:58pm EST on Thursday, January 11th) from > Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. Further information > about the launch and the satellite's early operations, including > preliminary TLEs and FoxTelem settings suggestions, can be found at > https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com From matthew at mrstevens.net Fri Jan 12 13:02:29 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:02:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtelem tracking TLE updates Message-ID: Can anyone enlighten me about how foxtelem updates it's keps? I was attempting to get fox1D tracking enabled, and wound up just pasting the TLE from nasabare.txt into a FOX4.tle file, and that worked. However, in the meantime I noticed that the keps for both AO-85 and AO-91 were badly out of date in their respective FOX1.tle and FOX2.tle files. I understand that foxtelem is supposed to download nasabare.txt and then copy current info into those *.tle files. How do I make it update the keps? - Matthew ? nj4y? From ka3hdo at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 12:36:57 2018 From: ka3hdo at gmail.com (ka3hdo at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:36:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Bod] Fox-1D Launched, Telemetry Received In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02bc01d38ba2$099b1e80$1cd15b80$@gmail.com> You all make it look so easy. And, from experience, I know that space is hard. With a *lot* of behind the scenes hard work to ensure success. Congratulations on a phenomenal achievement! The AMSAT Fox team Rocks!! 73, Frank KA3HDO -----Original Message----- From: BOD [mailto:bod-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:51 AM To: AMSAT BB ; AMSAT BoD Subject: [Bod] Fox-1D Launched, Telemetry Received Fox-1D was successfully launched at 03:59 UTC on the PSLV-C40 mission from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. UA9UIZ received and uploaded the first telemetry to AMSAT servers at 05:28 UTC. Initial telemetry values appear nominal. The first set of post-launch Keplerian elements are reproduced below: Fox-1D 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18036412 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 15 2 99934 97.6514 74.0671 0008545 308.1824 275.3575 15.22876478 16 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) _______________________________________________ Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod From redski at bellsouth.net Fri Jan 12 13:03:46 2018 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M WILLOUGHBY) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:03:46 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Launched, Telemetry Received Message-ID: <6F6C3B33-A557-4E2C-995B-5F8A57355677@bellsouth.net> Nice job in getting Fox-1D in orbit and very nice to have the preliminary keps in nasabare.txt so quickly! Having the early keps so conveniently available will likely increase the number of telemetry submissions during these first few days. I?ll be listening when it comes by in an hour or so! From pconver at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 14:40:04 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:40:04 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX-1D Audio Message-ID: Hi, Fox-1D recorded audio from orbit 7 on 01/12 at 13:42 UTC over Buenos Aires: http://amsat.org.ar/fox1d2.wav Passes & freq. at http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=fox1d Congratulations AMSAT for new bird !! 73, LU7ABF, Pedro From zleffke at vt.edu Fri Jan 12 15:46:02 2018 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:46:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Reception in Blacksburg, VA Message-ID: Two telemetry frames received in Blacksburg on the last pass. VT Ground Station is actually down for planned maintenance, so went after it with FCD PRO+ plus Pre-amp plus Arrow plus FoxTelem SW. SUPER EXCITED here at VT for the first camera test. Keep collecting Telemetry folks! GO AMSAT!!!!!!! -Zach, KJ4QLP -- Research Associate Aerospace Systems Lab Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 From quadpugh at bellsouth.net Fri Jan 12 16:17:38 2018 From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:17:38 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Reception in Blacksburg, VA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a901d38bc0$de8adae0$9ba090a0$@bellsouth.net> Hats off to Jerry and his team for fox 1d big tnx It is 5-9 at EM30 nick Cell????? 337 258 2527 ? Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School Disagree I Learn From va6bmj at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 16:19:30 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:19:30 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Announces Next Launch Date Message-ID: http://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-sets-new-window-for-second-electron-launch/ From va6bmj at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 16:22:17 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Announces Next Launch Date In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-sets-new-window-for-second-electron-launch/ The window opens on 2018-01-20 at 0130 UTC (2018-01-19 at 2030 EST). Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From g0mrf at aol.com Fri Jan 12 17:16:57 2018 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:16:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Tlm with FC dongle Message-ID: <160eb5fe0bf-1729-1d60a@webjas-vae161.srv.aolmail.net> Problem solved: Thanks Chris Mark Alan + Nitin. FYI. Although there wasn't another program running, it looks like SDR# had set the parameters for the gain and filtering. - I'll have to watch out for that. Running SDR# again, I reset the front end filtering to '2m' and saw that copied across to FoxTelem. So monitoring back in action. Thanks for the help, and good luck with Fox-1D 73 David G0MRF Hello David! From time to time with the FCDPP I find this helpful to do if something is going "wrong": exit FoxTLM unplug/plug in FCDPP followed by launching FCHID2.002.exe then resetting to default values, then setting the frequency to the "center" frequency I want to use with FoxTLM followed by launching FoxTLM That fixes about anything "weird" I've seen! Give that a go. Mark N8MH At 06:53 PM 1/10/2018 -0500, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Hi all. > >I've returned from a break over Christmas and noticed the signal level on my fox-tlm screen has dropped. >I've also noticed that the various parameters for the dongle include LNA and Mixer gain along with IF bandwidth of 200kHz >However, there is also a box that says RF filter and that is set to 0-4MHz. > >I can't see anyway to change the RF filter setting ! I assume this should be 2m to select the internal SAW filter. >Any idea where I can start looking? > >Many thanks > >David G0MRF From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Fri Jan 12 18:18:00 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Reception in India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1287042221.1976685.1515781080587@mail.yahoo.com> Many Stations in India have received the strong signals using their Radios.Those who were using SDR will try again tomorrow to decode telemetry.?73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: Zach Leffke To: AMSAT BB Sent: Friday, 12 January 2018 9:18 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Reception in Blacksburg, VA Two telemetry frames received in Blacksburg on the last pass. VT Ground Station is actually down for planned maintenance, so went after it with FCD PRO+ plus Pre-amp plus Arrow plus FoxTelem SW. SUPER EXCITED here at VT for the first camera test. Keep collecting Telemetry folks! GO AMSAT!!!!!!! -Zach, KJ4QLP -- Research Associate Aerospace Systems Lab Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From endaf99 at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 18:22:13 2018 From: endaf99 at gmail.com (Endaf Buckley) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:22:13 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX 1D Veronica Message-ID: Veronica heard here in DM13 (work QTH) and sounding good. Endaf N6UTC From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri Jan 12 19:05:20 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:05:20 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1/AO73 Operations Message-ID: <29c63578-2a48-f10a-bd9b-e547a79edc2c@btinternet.com> Hi All, AO73 is now in continuous amateur mode for the weekend. The transponder is on with low power telemetry also active. Early next month AO73 will be entering a period of some weeks of continuous sunlight. We are planning then to have a new operating schedule as below: Sunday pm through to Thursday am or pm - Continuous educational mode with full power telemetry. Thursday through to Sunday pm - Continuous amateur mode with the transponder on, and with low power telemetry also active. These plans will be reviewed with experience so may change! Keep having FUN in space. 73 Graham G3VZV From martha at amsat.org Fri Jan 12 19:52:18 2018 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:52:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed Message-ID: The AMSAT Office will be closed on Monday, January 15th in observance of Martin Luther King Jr Day. -- 73- Martha From peteragreen at me.com Fri Jan 12 21:04:05 2018 From: peteragreen at me.com (Peter Green) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 21:04:05 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem test file Message-ID: Could anyone please point me in the direction of the FoxTelem test.wav as it is not at the destination listed in the FoxTelem instructions, or if anyone has a working.wav file please? The launch of AO-91 and 1D have got me interested in collecting the data. Many thanks to AMSAT and all the volunteers who make it possible via the satellites to take part in this exciting part of the hobby Pete G0ABI From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 03:10:17 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 22:10:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Reception in India In-Reply-To: <1287042221.1976685.1515781080587@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1287042221.1976685.1515781080587@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Congratulations to the Indian people and the ISRO personnel in particular. It was with joy that we enjoyed the streaming broadcast of the launch. The Virginia Tech people celebrated today. When the satellite was heard people looked to see what all the celebrations were about. 73s with gratitude Bob McGwier N4HY On Jan 12, 2018 1:20 PM, "Nitin Muttin via AMSAT-BB" wrote: > Many Stations in India have received the strong signals using their > Radios.Those who were using SDR will try again tomorrow to decode > telemetry. 73 > Nitin [VU3TYG] > > From: Zach Leffke > To: AMSAT BB > Sent: Friday, 12 January 2018 9:18 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D Reception in Blacksburg, VA > > Two telemetry frames received in Blacksburg on the last pass. > > VT Ground Station is actually down for planned maintenance, so went > after it with FCD PRO+ plus Pre-amp plus Arrow plus FoxTelem SW. > > SUPER EXCITED here at VT for the first camera test. > > Keep collecting Telemetry folks! > > GO AMSAT!!!!!!! > > -Zach, KJ4QLP > > -- > Research Associate > Aerospace Systems Lab > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sat Jan 13 04:13:25 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:13:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning Message-ID: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz or wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our server assemble a complete picture! 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations From nickhart at usa.net Sat Jan 13 04:28:46 2018 From: nickhart at usa.net (Nick Hart) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:28:46 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning Message-ID: <101wamebU6240S08.1515817726@web08.cms.usa.net> Is AO-92 the designation for Fox 1D? ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:14:05 PM PST From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" To: Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz or wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our server assemble a complete picture! 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 04:33:12 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:33:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning In-Reply-To: <101wamebU6240S08.1515817726@web08.cms.usa.net> References: <101wamebU6240S08.1515817726@web08.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: Yes, Paul, N8HM posted this on QRZ.com forums and all social media but I don't see it on amsat-bb... https://www.amsat.org/fox-1d-launched-designated-amsat-oscar-92/ 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Jan 12, 2018 11:29 PM, "Nick Hart" wrote: > Is AO-92 the designation for Fox 1D? > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:14:05 PM PST > From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning > > Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT > camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with > FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz > or > wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our > server assemble a complete picture! > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > AMSAT VP Operations > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From skristof at etczone.com Sat Jan 13 13:39:54 2018 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 08:39:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning In-Reply-To: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> References: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: When will AO-92 be part of the AMSAT Online Satellite Pass Predictions? Steve AI9IN On 2018-01-12 23:13, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT > camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with > FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz or > wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our > server assemble a complete picture! > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > AMSAT VP Operations From wa4sca at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 13:54:46 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 07:54:46 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning In-Reply-To: References: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <000001d38c76$1273e0d0$375ba270$@gmail.com> Steve, It already is. However, it is listed under its temporary object number, 99934. It is at the very bottom of the list. Once it is definitely identified, it will appear as AO-92. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT <> camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with <> FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our <> server assemble a complete picture! <> <> 73, Drew KO4MA <> <> AMSAT VP Operations <_______________________________________________ References: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> <000001d38c76$1273e0d0$375ba270$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks to Alan and Joanne for the quick reply! On 2018-01-13 08:54, Alan wrote: > Steve, > > It already is. However, it is listed under its temporary object number, > 99934. It is at the very bottom of the list. Once it is definitely > identified, it will appear as AO-92. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > < > < > < > <> Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the > VT > <> camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with > <> FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz > <> wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our > <> server assemble a complete picture! > <> > <> 73, Drew KO4MA > <> > <> AMSAT VP Operations > <_______________________________________________ > AMSAT- > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsatso at n0jy.org Fri Jan 12 22:37:10 2018 From: amsatso at n0jy.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:37:10 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Bod] Fox-1D Launched, Telemetry Received In-Reply-To: <02bc01d38ba2$099b1e80$1cd15b80$@gmail.com> References: <02bc01d38ba2$099b1e80$1cd15b80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you Frank, on behalf of the entire Fox Team! Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/12/2018 06:36, ka3hdo at gmail.com wrote: > You all make it look so easy. And, from experience, I know that space is > hard. With a *lot* of behind the scenes hard work to ensure success. > > Congratulations on a phenomenal achievement! The AMSAT Fox team Rocks!! > > 73, Frank KA3HDO > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOD [mailto:bod-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:51 AM > To: AMSAT BB ; AMSAT BoD > Subject: [Bod] Fox-1D Launched, Telemetry Received > > Fox-1D was successfully launched at 03:59 UTC on the PSLV-C40 mission from > Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. UA9UIZ received and > uploaded the first telemetry to AMSAT servers at 05:28 UTC. > Initial telemetry values appear nominal. > > The first set of post-launch Keplerian elements are reproduced below: > > Fox-1D > 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18036412 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 15 > 2 99934 97.6514 74.0671 0008545 308.1824 275.3575 15.22876478 16 > > > 73, > > Paul Stoetzer, N8HM > Executive Vice President > Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) > _______________________________________________ > Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod > > _______________________________________________ > Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod From peteragreen at me.com Sat Jan 13 11:12:58 2018 From: peteragreen at me.com (Peter Green) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:12:58 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem test file In-Reply-To: <5283E783FF544C739F7862637D32140B@OsbornesPC> References: <5283E783FF544C739F7862637D32140B@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: Many thanks Terry > On 13 Jan 2018, at 00:25, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > The test files , RF and AF Wav are still here: > http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/recordings/ > > You can also find some on Patrick's (WD9EWK) dropbox. > http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/ > > 73, > Terry Osborne ZL2BAC > > -----Original Message----- From: Peter Green > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 10:04 AM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem test file > > Could anyone please point me in the direction of the FoxTelem test.wav as it is not at the destination listed in the FoxTelem instructions, or if anyone has a working.wav file please? > > The launch of AO-91 and 1D have got me interested in collecting the data. > > Many thanks to AMSAT and all the volunteers who make it possible via the satellites to take part in this exciting part of the hobby > > Pete G0ABI > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2ysi at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 04:45:20 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:45:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [Blog] AMSAT-BB versus every Linux mailing list In-Reply-To: <000434E4-026A-4D2F-9DD9-3181A6CDD4A7@gmail.com> References: <000434E4-026A-4D2F-9DD9-3181A6CDD4A7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Very good article John! I can +1 on the responsiveness of some ham radio software developers. Utterly amazing they do what they do, and barely ask for anything in return! 73, Don KB2YSI On Jan 12, 2018 07:36, "Emyr Morris" wrote: Well written blog. Every day is a school day and a chance to learn something new! 73 MW0VPS > On 12 Jan 2018, at 02:45, John Brier wrote: > > https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/2018/01/12/amsat-bb- versus-every-linux-mailing-list/ > > "On AMSAT-BB, people ask for someone to call them on the phone and > walk them through things. And people actually do it. On Linux and > other open source mailing lists, when people ask basic questions > they?re told to ?read the f*cking manual, noob.? > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ka3hsw at att.net Sat Jan 13 15:51:40 2018 From: ka3hsw at att.net (George Henry) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:51:40 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Adding AO-92 to FoxTelem Message-ID: Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I don't see AO-92 in FoxTelem, and can't seem to find a way to add it.... George, KA3HSW From wa4sca at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 15:59:33 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:59:33 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Adding AO-92 to FoxTelem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01d38c87$811ea860$835bf920$@gmail.com> George, Out of the box, it is called Fox-1d, and you can use that. To update it, on the Spacecraft tab, select Fox-1d. Upper left, there is an editable box where you can change the name. Type in AO-92 and save it. You may need to close and reopen FoxTelem. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Hi all, This is my first message to this group since I'm new to satellites and have only a few QSOs under my belt. Still I managed to record and decode two passes of Fox-1D so far. I thought that it might be interesting for those of you that missed today's High Speed Data pass to have a recording of it, so I went outside and recorded the 16:33 UTC pass using my SDRPlay RSP1A and an Arrow II antenna. The video below is some of that IQ recording being played using SDRUno and then the audio being played to Foxtelem using a vistual audio cable. I have the full pass IQ recorded but kept the video at 5min. Link: https://youtu.be/ob0BkiZQgFw Please excuse the fading of the signal at times. I was hand holding and aiming the antenna and I am new to this + it was quite windy. Best wishes, Milen Bourilkov KG2C From almetco at comcast.net Sat Jan 13 16:27:51 2018 From: almetco at comcast.net (Greg) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:27:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D recorded pass at 2017-01-13 16:33 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Milen, Thanks for posting. I haven?t had a chance to hear or record it live yet. So, it was nice seeing the ease at which you accomplished that. Greg n3MVF On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Milen Bourilkov wrote: Hi all, This is my first message to this group since I'm new to satellites and have only a few QSOs under my belt. Still I managed to record and decode two passes of Fox-1D so far. I thought that it might be interesting for those of you that missed today's High Speed Data pass to have a recording of it, so I went outside and recorded the 16:33 UTC pass using my SDRPlay RSP1A and an Arrow II antenna. The video below is some of that IQ recording being played using SDRUno and then the audio being played to Foxtelem using a vistual audio cable. I have the full pass IQ recorded but kept the video at 5min. Link: https://youtu.be/ob0BkiZQgFw Please excuse the fading of the signal at times. I was hand holding and aiming the antenna and I am new to this + it was quite windy. Best wishes, Milen Bourilkov KG2C _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 18:03:12 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:03:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning In-Reply-To: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> References: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: The tests have VT celebrating. We have been getting our act together while our groundstation was taking down for maintenance since we were not anticipating the launch. HA HA HA. The sun flares off the antennas are, in a word, awesome, but the gorgeous views of earth are better than I had personally hoped for. Thanks to our team the seemingly endless set of tweaks and knobs on this camera aided ably by Jerry N0JY and the entire testing team, the settings seem great. I look forward to many more of these awesome pictures and our continued relationship between VT and AMSAT. 73s Bob N4HY On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner < glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT > camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with > FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz > or wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our > server assemble a complete picture! > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > AMSAT VP Operations > > > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Sat Jan 13 18:07:18 2018 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:07:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning In-Reply-To: References: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <0bbb884a-806f-555f-90be-01f5833be1b2@burlingtontelecom.net> Congrats Bob to you and everyone at VT. It was fun decoding high speed frames this morning. I didn't get as many as I wanted. Antennas were iced from the storm up here last night. Mike, N1JEZ On 1/13/2018 1:03 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: > The tests have VT celebrating. We have been getting our act together while > our groundstation was taking down for maintenance since we were not > anticipating the launch. HA HA HA. > > The sun flares off the antennas are, in a word, awesome, but the gorgeous > views of earth are better than I had personally hoped for. > > Thanks to our team the seemingly endless set of tweaks and knobs on this > camera aided ably by Jerry N0JY and the entire testing team, the settings > seem great. > > I look forward to many more of these awesome pictures and our continued > relationship between VT and AMSAT. > > 73s > Bob > N4HY > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner < > glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > >> Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT >> camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with >> FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz >> or wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our >> server assemble a complete picture! >> >> >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> AMSAT VP Operations >> >> >> > > > -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From saguaroastro at cox.net Sat Jan 13 18:09:27 2018 From: saguaroastro at cox.net (Rick Tejera) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:09:27 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning In-Reply-To: References: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20180113180927.TJJT4385.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306.cox.net> Well done Bob! A job well done by all! Rick K7TEJ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert McGwier Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:04 To: Andrew Glasbrenner Cc: amsat bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning The tests have VT celebrating. We have been getting our act together while our groundstation was taking down for maintenance since we were not anticipating the launch. HA HA HA. The sun flares off the antennas are, in a word, awesome, but the gorgeous views of earth are better than I had personally hoped for. Thanks to our team the seemingly endless set of tweaks and knobs on this camera aided ably by Jerry N0JY and the entire testing team, the settings seem great. I look forward to many more of these awesome pictures and our continued relationship between VT and AMSAT. 73s Bob N4HY On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner < glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: > Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT > camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with > FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz > or wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help our > server assemble a complete picture! > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > AMSAT VP Operations > > > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 18:11:13 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:11:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Indian PAKMODI video of deployment Message-ID: Fox-1D is "somewhere" in the midst of the satellites at the end of the video. Again, this video shows the deserved pride of India in its space group ISRO. https://youtu.be/LKC_cmGHOL0 Bob -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 18:12:59 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:12:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera test Saturday morning In-Reply-To: <0bbb884a-806f-555f-90be-01f5833be1b2@burlingtontelecom.net> References: <025e01d38c24$dbae4960$930adc20$@mindspring.com> <0bbb884a-806f-555f-90be-01f5833be1b2@burlingtontelecom.net> Message-ID: Stay warm. I will take a picture of the project management and project leadership and team that actually did the work while I was cheerleader, provided money, and fended off others wanting them for other work!! 73s to all and enjoy. Bob N4HY On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Mike Seguin wrote: > Congrats Bob to you and everyone at VT. It was fun decoding high speed > frames this morning. I didn't get as many as I wanted. Antennas were iced > from the storm up here last night. > > Mike, N1JEZ > > On 1/13/2018 1:03 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: > >> The tests have VT celebrating. We have been getting our act together >> while >> our groundstation was taking down for maintenance since we were not >> anticipating the launch. HA HA HA. >> >> The sun flares off the antennas are, in a word, awesome, but the gorgeous >> views of earth are better than I had personally hoped for. >> >> Thanks to our team the seemingly endless set of tweaks and knobs on this >> camera aided ably by Jerry N0JY and the entire testing team, the settings >> seem great. >> >> I look forward to many more of these awesome pictures and our continued >> relationship between VT and AMSAT. >> >> 73s >> Bob >> N4HY >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner < >> glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> Saturday morning AO-92 passes at 1436 and 1610 UTC will likely test the VT >>> camera. Please be ready to decode and feed high speed data to server with >>> FoxTelem (check your rx bandwidth if using a SDR program to decode, 18kHz >>> or wider), and please stay off the uplink. All submitted data will help >>> our >>> server assemble a complete picture! >>> >>> >>> >>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>> >>> AMSAT VP Operations >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- > > 73, > Mike, N1JEZ > "A closed mouth gathers no feet" > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Jan 13 18:19:02 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:19:02 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Indian PAKMODI video of deployment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At about 1:04 of that video, you see three 1U CubeSats ejected. The last one out of that pod is Fox-1D. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: > Fox-1D is "somewhere" in the midst of the satellites at the end of the > video. > > Again, this video shows the deserved pride of India in its space group > ISRO. > > https://youtu.be/LKC_cmGHOL0 > > Bob > > > -- > Bob McGwier > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc > Research Professor Virginia Tech > Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and > Technology > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ > Director of AMSAT > Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, > NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 19:55:46 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:55:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Indian PAKMODI video of deployment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had to look multiple times to insure myself, it was three. THANKS!! On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > At about 1:04 of that video, you see three 1U CubeSats ejected. The > last one out of that pod is Fox-1D. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Robert McGwier > wrote: > > Fox-1D is "somewhere" in the midst of the satellites at the end of the > > video. > > > > Again, this video shows the deserved pride of India in its space group > > ISRO. > > > > https://youtu.be/LKC_cmGHOL0 > > > > Bob > > > > > > -- > > Bob McGwier > > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc > > Research Professor Virginia Tech > > Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and > > Technology > > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ > > Director of AMSAT > > Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and > AMSAT, > > NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From n0jy at amsat.org Sat Jan 13 20:16:03 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:16:03 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Indian PAKMODI video of deployment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4246b4b0-05f8-9d58-86bc-f6732de5629d@amsat.org> Verified for me by Spaceflight, that 1:04 in the video was our deployment. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/13/2018 13:55, Robert McGwier wrote: > I had to look multiple times to insure myself, it was three. THANKS!! From ingejack at cox.net Sat Jan 13 21:00:27 2018 From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:00:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX-1D Now AO-92 Message-ID: <1668818602.7796.1515877227746@myemail.cox.net> FOX-1D has now been officially changed to AO-92 Change shown in SATPC32 already 73 JACK KC7MG From w7lrd at comcast.net Sat Jan 13 21:49:54 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:49:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] I forget Message-ID: <1365912667.436129.1515880195150@connect.xfinity.com> I forget what does Ole-Fehler 8004503A, CLASS ID (A5584957-EF07-419C-BACD-9931F1256D92) mean when I start up Satpc32? 73 Bob W7LRD From w7lrd at comcast.net Sun Jan 14 02:48:26 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 Message-ID: <1670528.158739.1515898106663@connect.xfinity.com> I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has to pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. There is no way to get around it. Suggestions. 73 Bob-W7LRD From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Jan 14 02:50:54 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:50:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 In-Reply-To: <1670528.158739.1515898106663@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1670528.158739.1515898106663@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: You can download SatPC32 here and enter your existing registration code. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has to pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. There is no way to get around it. Suggestions. > > > 73 Bob-W7LRD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Jan 14 02:51:13 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:51:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 In-Reply-To: References: <1670528.158739.1515898106663@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Would help to include the link! http://www.dk1tb.de/indexeng.htm 73, Paul, N8HM On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > You can download SatPC32 here and enter your existing registration code. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: >> I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has to pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. There is no way to get around it. Suggestions. >> >> >> 73 Bob-W7LRD >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Sun Jan 14 02:53:35 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 20:53:35 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 In-Reply-To: <1670528.158739.1515898106663@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1670528.158739.1515898106663@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <000001d38ce2$df52cf00$9df86d00$@gmail.com> Bob, No, you can download the demo version for free. Enter your registration number, and you are set. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- I am running win 7 and when I try to run foxtelm it ask to download Java. I take all the defaults and Java reports installed but foxtelm can not seam to find it. Fox telim.jav runs but when I copy ao 91 it complains about sat id. help nick Cell????? 337 258 2527 ? Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School Disagree I Learn From quadpugh at bellsouth.net Sun Jan 14 13:24:16 2018 From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 07:24:16 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help In-Reply-To: <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> References: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? nick Cell????? 337 258 2527 ? Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School Disagree I Learn -----Original Message----- From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install 32 bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link on the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com From bvfa65 at gmail.com Sun Jan 14 12:46:59 2018 From: bvfa65 at gmail.com (KC) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 07:46:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help In-Reply-To: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> References: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install 32 bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link on the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com From milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 16:11:12 2018 From: milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com (Milen KG2C) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:11:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D recorded pass at 2017-01-13 16:33 UTC Message-ID: Hi all, This is my first message to this group since I'm new to satellites and have only a few QSOs under my belt. Still I managed to record and decode two passes of Fox-1D so far. I thought that it might be interesting for those of you that missed today's High Speed Data pass to have a recording of it, so I went outside and recorded the 16:33 UTC pass using my SDRPlay RSP1A and an Arrow II antenna. The video below is some of that IQ recording being played using SDRUno and then the audio being played to Foxtelem using a vistual audio cable. I have the full pass IQ recorded but kept the video at 5min. Link: https://youtu.be/ob0BkiZQgFw Please excuse the fading of the signal at times. I was hand holding and aiming the antenna and I am new to this + it was quite windy. Best wishes, Milen Bourilkov KG2C From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Sun Jan 14 05:39:18 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 00:39:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release - No. 18-01 Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ARISS News Release - No. 18-01 Two More US Schools/Groups Move Into Phase 2 of ARISS Selections January 13, 2018 - The ARISS-US team (Amateur Radio on the International Space Station) is pleased to announce that two more US schools or organizations have had their ARISS proposals selected for advancement to the next stage of planning for amateur radio contacts in 2018. These schools will take advantage of new scheduling opportunities to speak with International Space Station (ISS) crew members using the ARISS equipment. The selected schools submitted proposals before the proposal window closed last November and join the 13 schools and groups chosen a few weeks ago. The two extra scheduling opportunities are special events thanks to ARISS's two major sponsors, the NASA Space Communications and Navigation group and the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space. The events that the schools' students will travel to are aerospace conferences where their ARISS radio contacts will be a highlight open to conference attendees. The schools and venues are: ? Quest for Space/Quest Institute for Quality Education in San Jose, California, whose ARISS contact will be featured at the ISS R&D Conference, July 23-26 in San Francisco, California ? Burns Science & Technical Charter School in Oak Hill, Florida, whose ARISS contact will be featured at the S.P.A.C.E. Conference, July 11-13 at NASA's Kennedy Space Center. ARISS's primary goal is to engage young people in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) activities, and to involve them in activities related to space exploration, amateur radio, communications, and areas of associated study and career possibilities. ABOUT ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) in the United States, and other international space agencies and international amateur radio organizations around the world. The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers from amateur radio clubs and coordination from the ARISS team, the ISS crew members speak directly with large group audiences in a variety of public forums such as school assemblies, science centers and museums, Scout camporees, jamborees and space camps, where students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies and Amateur Radio. Find more information at www.ariss.org, www.amsat.organd www.arrl.org. ### Contact: David Jordan, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org (321) 662-9486 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From bvfa65 at gmail.com Sun Jan 14 13:35:34 2018 From: bvfa65 at gmail.com (KC) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 08:35:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help In-Reply-To: <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> References: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <160f4e1e870.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> Fox 1-D, I don't believe that they've posted telemetry files yet as they need to identify which object it is, in the amsat list object a-f, t, and u. Perhaps someone else may comment. Kevin N2JPE Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On January 14, 2018 8:24:24 AM "Nick Pugh" wrote: > Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? > > > > > > > nick > > Cell????? 337 258 2527 > ? > Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School > Disagree I Learn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM > To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install 32 > bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link on > the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > From Mvivona at yahoo.com Sun Jan 14 14:55:12 2018 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 09:55:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help In-Reply-To: <160f4e1e870.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> References: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> <160f4e1e870.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5BF574D6-F8EB-4DE6-825D-FA787E5F623F@yahoo.com> Object #99934 I believe it's actually labeled as AO-92 and is listed in nasabare.txt on the AMSAT site. Michael KC4ZVA On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:35 AM, KC wrote: Fox 1-D, I don't believe that they've posted telemetry files yet as they need to identify which object it is, in the amsat list object a-f, t, and u. Perhaps someone else may comment. Kevin N2JPE Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com > On January 14, 2018 8:24:24 AM "Nick Pugh" wrote: > > Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? > > > > > > > nick > > Cell 337 258 2527 > > Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School > Disagree I Learn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM > To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install 32 > bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link on > the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n6jsx at yahoo.com Sun Jan 14 15:41:31 2018 From: n6jsx at yahoo.com (Dale Kubichek) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 15:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox1C & Fox1E References: <1951415475.2906211.1515944491583.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1951415475.2906211.1515944491583@mail.yahoo.com> First off Salute to AMSAT for AO-92, lots of work and small rewards. Now that AO-85, AO-91, AO92 are great successes can you please post a brief plan/schedule for Fox1C & Fox1E? Inquiring minds want to know. I really wonder if the HAM Sales big boys know what AMSAT has done for their radio marketing with four HT'able FM birds flying? AMSAT's efforts has raised high awareness to a forgotten aspect of this big hobby. HAMs will be buying SAT capable radios, antennas, software and more to make their first SAT contact. An increase in AMSAT memberships is good but I just hope the SAT equipment manufactures donate very generously to AMSAT awarding AMSAT for bringing back a near dead sales area.? I also hope the MFG see the benefit to designing/marketing SAT specific radios (like the old FT-236/326). We could use a D-310G (as a sister to the B-310G) to minimize the beam size and make an eggbeater usable. Thanks, Best regards,?? Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX ? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Jan 14 16:03:14 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 11:03:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox1C & Fox1E In-Reply-To: <1951415475.2906211.1515944491583@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1951415475.2906211.1515944491583.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1951415475.2906211.1515944491583@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dale, Fox-1Cliff is scheduled to be launched on Spaceflight's SSO-A mission on a SpaceX Falcon 9 in the summer. RadFxSat-2 / Fox-1E is scheduled be launched on the ELaNa XX mission on Virgin Orbit's LauncherOne NET Q2. 73, Paul, N8HM On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB wrote: > First off Salute to AMSAT for AO-92, lots of work and small rewards. > Now that AO-85, AO-91, AO92 are great successes can you please post a brief plan/schedule for Fox1C & Fox1E? Inquiring minds want to know. > I really wonder if the HAM Sales big boys know what AMSAT has done for their radio marketing with four HT'able FM birds flying? AMSAT's efforts has raised high awareness to a forgotten aspect of this big hobby. HAMs will be buying SAT capable radios, antennas, software and more to make their first SAT contact. An increase in AMSAT memberships is good but I just hope the SAT equipment manufactures donate very generously to AMSAT awarding AMSAT for bringing back a near dead sales area. I also hope the MFG see the benefit to designing/marketing SAT specific radios (like the old FT-236/326). We could use a D-310G (as a sister to the B-310G) to minimize the beam size and make an eggbeater usable. > > Thanks, > > Best regards, > Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From endaf99 at gmail.com Sun Jan 14 16:39:51 2018 From: endaf99 at gmail.com (Endaf Buckley) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 08:39:51 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT D-STAR net Message-ID: The Unofficial AMSAT D-STAR net Monday at 03:30 UTC on Reflector 9C. This is not affiliated with AMSAT and is just an informal round table type net discussing all things satellite and more. From ciprian at sufitchi.com Sun Jan 14 16:32:52 2018 From: ciprian at sufitchi.com (Ciprian Sufitchi) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 11:32:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D (AO-92) @n2yo.com Message-ID: <001501d38d55$53571970$fa054c50$@sufitchi.com> Fox-1D (AO-92) has been added on n2yo.com website. The temporary id is 99934 and keplerian elements are only estimated. http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=99934 Once the object will be identified, information will be updated. 73s de Chip N2YO From DougPhelps at protonmail.com Sun Jan 14 16:42:25 2018 From: DougPhelps at protonmail.com (Doug Phelps) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 11:42:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help In-Reply-To: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> References: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <2DQk1ichV9jDyK8y_CKcGycxZsiWR7D95xa2FFp9wR-aDb9AXOiv1GCarZuWoLRl3BtYikXbyr6j2LdeR2O4BSi56tfBrs2NkSMQ-KStesw=@protonmail.com> I am having the exact same problem. I am also running win 7. Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On Jan 14, 2018, 3:25 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: > I am running win 7 and when I try to run foxtelm it ask to download Java. I > take all the defaults and Java reports installed but foxtelm can not seam to > find it. Fox telim.jav runs but when I copy ao 91 it complains about sat > id. > > help > > nick > > Cell 337 258 2527 > > Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School > Disagree I Learn > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w7lrd at comcast.net Sun Jan 14 17:42:21 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 09:42:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 DL Message-ID: <1550271640.422243.1515951741943@connect.xfinity.com> Trying to download Satpc32. I get to a point where I get error 1925 you do not have sufficient ..................and everything stops?? 73 Bob W7LRD From wa4sca at gmail.com Sun Jan 14 17:51:20 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 11:51:20 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 DL In-Reply-To: <1550271640.422243.1515951741943@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1550271640.422243.1515951741943@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <000001d38d60$492d03a0$db870ae0$@gmail.com> Bob, Did you use this URL? http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm I just checked, and was able to download without a problem. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Following, having the same problem. Rick Tejera K7TEJSaguaroAstro at cox.net623-203-4121 -------- Original message -------- From: Nick Pugh Date: 1/14/18 02:25 (GMT-07:00) To: 'amsat-bb' Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help I am running win 7 and when I try to run foxtelm it ask to download Java.? I take all the defaults and Java reports installed but foxtelm can not seam to find it.? Fox telim.jav runs but when I copy ao 91 it complains about sat id. help nick Cell????? 337 258 2527 ? Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School Disagree I Learn _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kg5jup at gmail.com Sun Jan 14 18:51:52 2018 From: kg5jup at gmail.com (Chris Bradley) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:51:52 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-014 AMSAT Weekly News Service Bulletin Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-014.01 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Z-Sat Frequency Coordination Submitted to IARU * Handy Fox 1D Links * Preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D * Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-12 * Nova Maker Faire * AMSAT North America has issued a statement formally designating Fox-1D as AO-92 * AMSAT Office Closed Monday January 15 * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-014.01 ANS-014.01 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 309.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. November 5, 2017 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-014.01 Z-Sat Frequency Coordination Submitted to IARU AMSAT-UK reported that the IARU has received a frequency coordination request from the Komaki Amateur Radio SATCOM Club in Japan for Z-Sat 50kg microsat with two missions: (1) Mission: BBS service Exchanging messages between amateurs all over the world in amateur service. Any amateur can use the space station like a BBS by uploading and downloading messages. The specific steps includes: An amateur radio station transmits messages to the space station for indiv- idual/public and these messages are stored in the space station. Another amateur radio station transmits a specific message to the space station and the space station transmits a reply message whether any message to him exists or not. If exists, the amateur radio station can receive the message by transmitting a specific message to the space station. Frequency band: - UPLINK : 435-438 MHz DOWNLINK : 145-146 MHz (Note: The usage of the BBS is shown in the following URL. same as ChubuSat-2 except frequencies https://www.frontier.phys.nagoya- u.ac.jp/en/chubusat/chubusat_satellite2.html (2) Mission: The Earth observation Imaging particular site with the infrared camera. Frequency band: - UPLINK : S-band - DOWNLINK : S-band No launch defined but planning a sun synchronous LEO. http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=580 [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and the IARU for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Handy Fox 1D Links Fox-1D Launch Live Blog https://www.amsat.org/fox-1d-launch-live-blog/ Fox Telemetry Leaderboard (With links to FoxTelem) http://www.amsat.org/tlm/ AMSAT Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page (Report Fox-1D reception here) http://amsat.org/status/ Getting Ready for Fox-1D PDF https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Getting- Ready-for-Fox-1D.pdf Updates will be found on AMSAT's Twitter account (@AMSAT). Note that you do not need to be a Twitter user to view AMSAT's tweets. https://twitter.com/AMSAT The latest Keps can be found in AMSAT's Keps distribution. Any tracking software using the AMSAT Keps distribution should identify new object "99934" after refreshing your Keps. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt [ANS would like to thank Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Preliminary TLEs for Fox-1D are: Fox-1D 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18138657 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 19 2 99934 97.5671 73.8300 0006273 277.3678 311.7572 15.21737581 17 If you have finished setting up your station to collect telemetry (remember that the downlink frequency is 145.880 MHz, if using an SDR, make sure you have set your LO frequency to cover Fox-1D's downlink), then please take a look at the following video explaining the PSLV-C40 mission. https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite- mission/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission-curtain-0 Post launch video will be available at https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite- mission/watch-live-pslv-c40-cartosat-2-series-satellite-mission [ANS Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-12 Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Prva srednja informaticka ?kola, Zagreb, Croatia, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-01-18 08:46:52 UTC 34 deg ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 127 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-01-12 00:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1201. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1150. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_cor rection .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov [ANS would like to thank Charlie Sufana, AJ9N for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nova Maker Faire is coming up March 18th. This year, the venue will be the GMU campus. Attendance last year was over 4000. Last year's AMSAT presence at the faire was a big hit. I hope you guys can exhibit again. The organizers would like a placeholder application filled in by Jan 14. Let me know if you need help with registering. https://nova.makerfaire.com/cfm/ [ANS would like to thank AMSAT.org Office (Martha) for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fox-1D was successfully launched at 03:59 UTC on the PSLV-C40 mission from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. UA9UIZ received and uploaded the first telemetry to AMSAT servers at 05:28 UTC. Initial telemetry values appear nominal. The first set of post-launch Keplerian elements are reproduced below: Fox-1D 1 99934U 1801D 18012.18036412 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 15 2 99934 97.6514 74.0671 0008545 308.1824 275.3575 15.22876478 16 [ANS would like to thank Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT North America has issued a statement formally designating Fox-1D as AO-92: Fox-1D, a 1U CubeSat, is the third of AMSAT's five Fox-1 CubeSats to reach orbit, being preceded by AO-85 (Fox-1A) and AO-91 (RadFxSat/ Fox-1B). Fox-1D carries the Fox-1 U/v FM transponder, with an uplink of 435.350 MHz (67.0 Hz CTCSS) and a downlink of 145.880 MHz. In addi- tion, Fox-1D carries several university experiments, including a MEMS gyro from Pennsylvania State University-Erie, a camera from Virginia Tech, and the University of Iowa's HERCI (High Energy Radiation Cube- Sat Instrument) radiation mapping experiment. Fox-1D also carries the AMSAT L-Band Downshifter experiment which enables the FM trans- ponder to be switched to utilize an uplink of 1267.350 MHz (67.0 Hz CTCSS). Fox-1D was sent aloft as a secondary payload on the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO)'s PSLV-XL rocket as part of the PSLV-C40 mission. Fox-1D was one of thirty-one satellites successfully deploy- ed on this launch. Since Fox-1D has met all of the qualifications necessary to receive an OSCAR number, I, by the authority vested in me by the AMSAT President, do hereby confer on this satellite the designation AMSAT-OSCAR 92 or AO-92. I join amateur radio operators in the U.S. and around the world in wishing AO-92 a long and successful life in both its amateur and scientific missions. I, along with the rest of the amateur community, congratulate all of the volunteers who worked so diligently to construct, test and prepare for launch the newest amateur radio satellite. William A. (Bill) Tynan, W3XO AMSAT-NA OSCAR Number Administrator [ANS would like to thank JoAnne, K9JKM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Office Closed Monday January 15 The AMSAT Office will be closed on Monday, January 15th in observance of Martin Luther King Jr Day. [ANS would like to thank AMSAT.ORG (Martha) for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + ARRL is picking up on Fox-1D news. http://www.arrl.org/news/view/fox-1d-satellite-set-to-launch-this- week-china-to-launch-five-new-cubesats [ANS Joanne K9JKM, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- + AMSAT's next Fox-1 satellite, Fox-1D, is scheduled for launch on January 12, 2018 from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India. Fox-1D will launch as part of the PSLV-C40 mission on board a Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle with Cartosat, an imaging satellite for the Indian government, and 30 other payloads." [ANS Jerry Buxton, N0JY for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- + KK5DO reports we just issued Rover Award #005 to KG5GJT. Congrats and keep on roving. Find details of the AMSAT Rover Award at: https://www.amsat.org/amsat-rover-award/ [ANS Joanne K9JKM, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Chris Bradley, AA5EM aa5em at amsat dot org _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n0jy at amsat.org Sun Jan 14 19:20:41 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 13:20:41 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help In-Reply-To: <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> References: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <770d3324-6986-e106-819b-8026f3c393a4@amsat.org> Hi Nick, Telemetry files, or TLE? Telemetry files can be downloaded from the server in FoxTelem using FILE - FETCH SERVER DATA. You might want to make a separate directory for those than your working directory, but that is up to you.? I run one directory for the telemetry I receive OTA and another to download the server data into for inspection. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/14/2018 07:24, Nick Pugh wrote: > Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? From w7lrd at comcast.net Sun Jan 14 23:53:37 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 15:53:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 Message-ID: <2104080641.441298.1515974017550@connect.xfinity.com> can not get around error 1925 to load satpc32-too many hours-the next sound you hear will be this @#$% computer flying out the window 73 digitally challanged Bob W7LRD From w8aas at verizon.net Mon Jan 15 00:14:19 2018 From: w8aas at verizon.net (Dave Taylor) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 19:14:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 In-Reply-To: <2104080641.441298.1515974017550@connect.xfinity.com> References: <2104080641.441298.1515974017550@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <95720A62-1081-4196-825D-C9EF2DBD6E2E@verizon.net> Are you logged in as Admin? I think 1925 is a problem with insufficient privileges. Dave, W8AAS > On Jan 14, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > > can not get around error 1925 to load satpc32-too many hours-the next sound you hear will be this @#$% computer flying out the window > > 73 digitally challanged > > Bob W7LRD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g0kla at arrl.net Mon Jan 15 00:29:38 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 19:29:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help In-Reply-To: <770d3324-6986-e106-819b-8026f3c393a4@amsat.org> References: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb@gmail.com> <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> <770d3324-6986-e106-819b-8026f3c393a4@amsat.org> Message-ID: ?The FoxTelem.exe file is a launcher that starts the java application. The launcher is 32 bit. It will run fine on 64 bit windows, but as ?KC pointed out, it looks for 32 bit java. One day I will write a 64 bit launcher perhaps, but then we will have two launchers and people will have to know/remember which one to run. So we exchange one problem for another. 73 Chris On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > Hi Nick, > > Telemetry files, or TLE? > > Telemetry files can be downloaded from the server in FoxTelem using FILE > - FETCH SERVER DATA. > You might want to make a separate directory for those than your working > directory, but that is up to you. I run one directory for the telemetry > I receive OTA and another to download the server data into for inspection. > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 1/14/2018 07:24, Nick Pugh wrote: > > Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From w5acm at swbell.net Mon Jan 15 06:35:55 2018 From: w5acm at swbell.net (Andy) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 00:35:55 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: NPR on Cubesats Message-ID: <006101d38dcb$19388b90$4ba9a2b0$@swbell.net> For those that are not in the hobby. Andy W5ACM From: Heather MacAllister [mailto:heather at heathermacallister.com] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:41 AM To: Andy MacAllister Subject: https://www.space.com/38962-npr-planet-money-podcast-launches-cubesat.html Heather http://www.facebook.com/HeatherMacAllister http://www.HeatherMacAllister.com From w5acm at swbell.net Mon Jan 15 06:38:12 2018 From: w5acm at swbell.net (Andy) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 00:38:12 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: cubsat video In-Reply-To: <001e01d38d5d$fcda3470$f68e9d50$@heathermacallister.com> References: <001e01d38d5d$fcda3470$f68e9d50$@heathermacallister.com> Message-ID: <006601d38dcb$6b2f0f00$418d2d00$@swbell.net> More from PBS De Andy W5ACM and Heather WB5RMA From: Heather MacAllister [mailto:heather at heathermacallister.com] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:35 AM To: Andy MacAllister Subject: cubsat video http://www.pbs.org/video/sci-tech-central-scitech-central-1601-cubesat-revol ution/ Heather http://www.facebook.com/HeatherMacAllister http://www.HeatherMacAllister.com From w5acm at swbell.net Mon Jan 15 06:40:10 2018 From: w5acm at swbell.net (Andy) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 00:40:10 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: cubesats In-Reply-To: <001901d38d5d$6f67e0b0$4e37a210$@heathermacallister.com> References: <001901d38d5d$6f67e0b0$4e37a210$@heathermacallister.com> Message-ID: <006b01d38dcb$b14f7b50$13ee71f0$@swbell.net> And more from PBS de Andy W5ACM and Heather WB5RMA. From: Heather MacAllister [mailto:heather at heathermacallister.com] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:31 AM To: Andy MacAllister Subject: cubesats https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/these-tiny-satellites-equipped-with-ion -thrusters-could-change-how-we-explore-space Heather http://www.facebook.com/HeatherMacAllister http://www.HeatherMacAllister.com From hamsat at xs4all.nl Mon Jan 15 11:33:59 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:33:59 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Unknown new satellite Message-ID: <721f417f-7913-bab5-48c3-5be97a2d3bb0@xs4all.nl> All, A new unknown satellite has appeared which has a downlink near 435.085 MHz with 1200 bps FSK AX.25 telemetry. Detailed doppler measurements show that this satellite is object 43116, 2018-004F. Probably this is INS 1C, which was launched together with AO 92. To be confirmed. 73, Nico PA0DLO From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Mon Jan 15 15:38:20 2018 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX-1D Now AO-92 In-Reply-To: <1668818602.7796.1515877227746@myemail.cox.net> References: <1668818602.7796.1515877227746@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: <1924204793.3466161.1516030700328@mail.yahoo.com> where does it show up in satpc32? when I click on satellites, I see a list of files: amateur.txtcubesat.txtgeo.txtintelsat.txtnasa.txtnoaa.txtOrbsmanual.eleweather.txt so far, I only see 99934 in nasa.txt Rob KA2CZU On Saturday, January 13, 2018, 4:01:48 PM EST, alex weimer wrote: FOX-1D has now been officially changed to AO-92? ? Change shown in SATPC32 already? 73? JACK? KC7MG _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From shakeelj2k at yahoo.com Mon Jan 15 17:49:04 2018 From: shakeelj2k at yahoo.com (shakeel saad) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid ras rotator issue Message-ID: Hi I have spid ras azimuth elevation rotator. I have set up Satpc32 for yaesu 232 mode to connect with rotator. My Satpc32 is sending azimuth and elevation to comport. But rotator is not moving. Please tell how do I know my rotator is installed correctly. I have setup mode of rotator to ps. But how to confirm or check rotator is installed correctly. The rotator is moving with moving its supplied mouse. Any help Shakeel Get Outlook for Android From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Mon Jan 15 18:20:36 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:20:36 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid ras rotator issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, did you also choose Yaesu mode in the controller setup and did you specify COM port and baud rate in the ServerSDX setup window? SatPC32 supports also the Rot2 mode of the AlfaSpid rotors which is supported by all AlfaSpid models.? To test it? choose? item 'AlfaSpid' from the ist of supportd controllers (menu 'Rotor Setup'), click the upper 'Store' button and restart SatPC32.? Then specify the COM port in the ServerSpid setup window. The baudrate is fix 600. 73, Erich, DK1TB Am 15.01.2018 um 18:49 schrieb shakeel saad via AMSAT-BB: > Hi > > > I have spid ras azimuth elevation rotator. I have set up Satpc32 for yaesu 232 mode to connect with rotator. My Satpc32 is sending azimuth and elevation to comport. But rotator is not moving. Please tell how do I know my rotator is installed correctly. I have setup mode of rotator to ps. But how to confirm or check rotator is installed correctly. The rotator is moving with moving its supplied mouse. > > > > > Any help > > > Shakeel > > > > > Get Outlook for Android > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From zleffke at vt.edu Mon Jan 15 18:29:57 2018 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zachary Leffke) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:29:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid ras rotator issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2071678870.178432.1516040997006.JavaMail.zimbra@hume.vt.edu> Hi Shakeel, I have a bit of experience with the Alfa Spid systems, so hopefully this might help. First question is what type of controller are you using? We use the MD-01s at Virginia Tech (MD-02s would be behave the same), but I believe there is another controller option for these types of rotators (not sure if they have the same config settings in the other model, also not sure what the model designation is). I can say for sure that the protocol for communicating with a RAS (alfa spid) rotator and a yaesu rotator are completely different. I personally don't use SatPC32, so I'm not sure if there is an option in there for changing it to one of the spid protocols. We have our MD-01s configured to communicate using the spid 'Rot2Prog' interface. So if you see anything like that in the SatPC32 options, try using that instead of yaesu. Alternatively, I *think* the MD-01s have a protocol config for emulating Yaesu systems. If you hunt through the manuals/settings on the rotator controller there may be an option for selecting yaesu. I'm not 100% sure, but it is possible that even if the option is in the controller for Yaesu, depending on your model and firmware version it might still not work (even though the option is in there, it might be for 'future use'). This is not something I've personally tested since we got the Rot2Prog interface working, but might be worth trying if SatPC32 doesn't have the configs for spid systems. There is also an 'MD-01' option in the MD-01 rotator controller that exposes more advanced options to the control program......in my experience this is spotty and 'beta' firmware, and personally i don't trust it (though we interface with custom software, so the problems there could easily be entirely my fault in our SW). Finally, at least for MD-01s, there is a configuration option that needs to be set to 'activate' the comm port setting. We actually use the Ethernet module in our systems, but you might want to make sure that the equivalent setting for the serial port is 'enabled' on your controller. In that same vein make sure you have the right port settings in there as well (baud rate, stop bits, etc.) And last bit of advice (and I don't mean this to be snarky, as referenced in the other thread about linux mailing lists) is carefully read the manuals and make sure you have the correct manuals for all the settings I mentioned above. I bring this up from personal experience because I *didn't* carefully read the manual and wasted a bunch of time because I didn't have the right settings on the controller. Also, I bring this up because the manuals from Spid are a bit difficult to read through and sometimes not totally clear. Further compounding the problem is that there are a few organizations involved with these systems and they each have their own manuals (I'm still not sure who does what between Alfa Spid in Canada and Spid Elektronik in Poland and I think theres one more group somewhere else). The manuals can be found here: http://www.alfaradio.ca/downloads/ (pretty accurate and I believe current) and also here if you have an MD-01/02 (careful, this link is a direct download of the pdf): https://www.haystack.mit.edu/edu/undergrad/srt/pdf%20files/MD-01%20en.pdf. Summary: I recommend using the Rot2Prog protocol on the controller (tried and true, been in use for a long time, so most 'beta' issues have been sorted). Then, if possible, I'd try to see if SatPC32 has a controller option for 'spid' or 'rot2prog' or something along those lines instead of yaesu. Finally, I believe there is a windows based client application that can be used to interface with the controller (at least there is for the MD-01s). I'd recommend using that first with the controller to sort out all the settings and make sure it is working over the com port first, then try to switch over to using SatPC32 (I think the windows client can also act as a DDE client, so maybe it can be used in conjunction with SatPC32 over a DDE link). For me there were lots of config testing and changes, sort of one at a time, until all the stars aligned and it started working. Good luck! Hopefully this is helpful. Let us know if you have more questions. -Zach, KJ4QLP ----- Original Message ----- From: "shakeel saad via AMSAT-BB" To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:49:04 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid ras rotator issue Hi I have spid ras azimuth elevation rotator. I have set up Satpc32 for yaesu 232 mode to connect with rotator. My Satpc32 is sending azimuth and elevation to comport. But rotator is not moving. Please tell how do I know my rotator is installed correctly. I have setup mode of rotator to ps. But how to confirm or check rotator is installed correctly. The rotator is moving with moving its supplied mouse. Any help Shakeel Get Outlook for Android _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Mon Jan 15 19:26:45 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:26:45 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Completion: Re: Spid ras rotator issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: SatPC32 supports also the AlfaSpiid MD1, MD2 mode. 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 15.01.2018 um 18:49 schrieb shakeel saad via AMSAT-BB: > Hi > > > I have spid ras azimuth elevation rotator. I have set up Satpc32 for yaesu 232 mode to connect with rotator. My Satpc32 is sending azimuth and elevation to comport. But rotator is not moving. Please tell how do I know my rotator is installed correctly. I have setup mode of rotator to ps. But how to confirm or check rotator is installed correctly. The rotator is moving with moving its supplied mouse. > > > > > Any help > > > Shakeel > > > > > Get Outlook for Android > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From peteragreen at me.com Mon Jan 15 17:56:14 2018 From: peteragreen at me.com (Peter Green) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:56:14 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid ras rotator issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23D152DC-009F-45A7-9500-6D19755B1882@me.com> I think you need to select PS-4 for Yaesu > On 15 Jan 2018, at 17:49, shakeel saad via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Hi > > > I have spid ras azimuth elevation rotator. I have set up Satpc32 for yaesu 232 mode to connect with rotator. My Satpc32 is sending azimuth and elevation to comport. But rotator is not moving. Please tell how do I know my rotator is installed correctly. I have setup mode of rotator to ps. But how to confirm or check rotator is installed correctly. The rotator is moving with moving its supplied mouse. > > > > > Any help > > > Shakeel > > > > > Get Outlook for Android > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From akx2 at dacor.net Mon Jan 15 21:23:27 2018 From: akx2 at dacor.net (Michael A. Foster) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:23:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D L-band downshifter Message-ID: Hello all, Does anybody know how the L-band downshifter experiment is switched to utilize an uplink of 1267.350mhz? Thanks, Michael ? n8iup From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Mon Jan 15 22:11:21 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:11:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D L-band downshifter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03f201d38e4d$c66721f0$533565d0$@mindspring.com> By command station only. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Michael A. Foster Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 4:23 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D L-band downshifter Hello all, Does anybody know how the L-band downshifter experiment is switched to utilize an uplink of 1267.350mhz? Thanks, Michael ? n8iup _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hamsat at xs4all.nl Mon Jan 15 22:24:23 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:24:23 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-OSCAR 92 identified Message-ID: All, Detailed doppler measurements show that AMSAT-OSCAR 92 (AO 92), earlier called FOX 1D, is object 43137, 2018-004AC. 73, Nico PA0DLO From ciprian at sufitchi.com Tue Jan 16 00:15:21 2018 From: ciprian at sufitchi.com (Ciprian Sufitchi) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:15:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-OSCAR 92 identified In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d38e5f$19837800$4c8a6800$@sufitchi.com> The id on website n2yo.com has changed to 43137 (2018-004AC). http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=43137 73s de Chip N2YO -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Nico Janssen Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 5:24 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Ray Hoad ; wa4sca at gmail.com Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-OSCAR 92 identified All, Detailed doppler measurements show that AMSAT-OSCAR 92 (AO 92), earlier called FOX 1D, is object 43137, 2018-004AC. 73, Nico PA0DLO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rgoldham at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 16 06:31:34 2018 From: rgoldham at sbcglobal.net (Ronald Oldham) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed References: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> On Sunday I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US grids . I would like to publicly thank Doug - N6UA for going out of his way to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this accomplishment.? In reviewing my log I would like to acknowledge the help of the following "top ten" portable operators and provide the number grids that I received because of their efforts 1 ND9M 332 K8YSE 273 AC0RA 234 W5PFG 205 WC7V 126 WD9EWK 117 KA6SIP 108 NJ7H ? 89 AA5CK 710 KB5WIA 610 KB0RZD 6 Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years. 73, Ron - N8RO From ok2gz at seznam.cz Tue Jan 16 08:13:00 2018 From: ok2gz at seznam.cz (ok2gz) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:13:00 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-OSCAR 92 identified In-Reply-To: <7d3a9475-05e3-d291-7809-5b01ab2dfdfb@seznam.cz> References: <7d3a9475-05e3-d291-7809-5b01ab2dfdfb@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <6556fb84-2efb-0e1f-7959-105c663fc65e@seznam.cz> How to get TLE data with Norad ID 43137 ? Thanks to Nico PA0DLO for identifying AO-92. He did the same job in case of AO-91. When we know the Norad ID 43137, where I can find these TLE data? Automatic update of GPredict the data did not reach, they are not on the celestrak-web page tle-new also... Can anybody help me and others too? 73 ??? jarda ok2gz --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From iu0dft at yahoo.com Tue Jan 16 11:27:36 2018 From: iu0dft at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?IlN0ZWZhbm8gKElVw5hERlQpIg==?=) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:27:36 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem and Fox-1D In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I downloaded and installed Fox Telem, left my MacBook on all night with my NooElec SDR (USB) connected hoping to record and upload data. Nothing happened. Do I have to do something more? Any help will be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. 73 Stefano (IU?DFT) > On 14 Jan 2018, at 3:55 PM, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote: > > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Indian PAKMODI video of deployment (Robert McGwier) > 2. Re: Indian PAKMODI video of deployment (Jerry Buxton) > 3. FOX-1D Now AO-92 (alex weimer) > 4. I forget (Bob- W7LRD) > 5. Satpc32 (Bob- W7LRD) > 6. Re: Satpc32 (Paul Stoetzer) > 7. Re: Satpc32 (Paul Stoetzer) > 8. Re: Satpc32 (Alan) > 9. foxtlem help (Nick Pugh) > 10. Re: foxtlem help (Nick Pugh) > 11. Re: foxtlem help (KC) > 12. Fox-1D recorded pass at 2017-01-13 16:33 UTC (Milen KG2C) > 13. ARISS News Release - No. 18-01 (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) > 14. Re: foxtlem help (KC) > 15. Re: foxtlem help (Mvivona) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:55:46 -0500 > From: Robert McGwier > To: Paul Stoetzer > Cc: amsat bb > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Indian PAKMODI video of deployment > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I had to look multiple times to insure myself, it was three. THANKS!! > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> At about 1:04 of that video, you see three 1U CubeSats ejected. The >> last one out of that pod is Fox-1D. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Robert McGwier >> wrote: >>> Fox-1D is "somewhere" in the midst of the satellites at the end of the >>> video. >>> >>> Again, this video shows the deserved pride of India in its space group >>> ISRO. >>> >>> https://youtu.be/LKC_cmGHOL0 >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bob McGwier >>> Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc >>> Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc >>> Research Professor Virginia Tech >>> Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and >>> Technology >>> Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY >>> Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ >>> Director of AMSAT >>> Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and >> AMSAT, >>> NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > > > -- > Bob McGwier > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc > Research Professor Virginia Tech > Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and > Technology > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ > Director of AMSAT > Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, > NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:16:03 -0600 > From: Jerry Buxton > To: Robert McGwier , Paul Stoetzer > > Cc: amsat bb > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Indian PAKMODI video of deployment > Message-ID: <4246b4b0-05f8-9d58-86bc-f6732de5629d at amsat.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Verified for me by Spaceflight, that 1:04 in the video was our deployment. > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 1/13/2018 13:55, Robert McGwier wrote: >> I had to look multiple times to insure myself, it was three. THANKS!! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:00:27 -0700 (MST) > From: alex weimer > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX-1D Now AO-92 > Message-ID: <1668818602.7796.1515877227746 at myemail.cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > FOX-1D has now been officially changed to AO-92 Change shown in SATPC32 already 73 JACK KC7MG > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:49:54 -0800 (PST) > From: Bob- W7LRD > To: amsat-bb > Subject: [amsat-bb] I forget > Message-ID: <1365912667.436129.1515880195150 at connect.xfinity.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I forget what does Ole-Fehler 8004503A, CLASS ID > > (A5584957-EF07-419C-BACD-9931F1256D92) > > mean when I start up Satpc32? > > 73 Bob W7LRD > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:26 -0800 (PST) > From: Bob- W7LRD > To: amsat-bb > Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 > Message-ID: <1670528.158739.1515898106663 at connect.xfinity.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has to pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. There is no way to get around it. Suggestions. > > > 73 Bob-W7LRD > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:50:54 -0500 > From: Paul Stoetzer > To: Bob- W7LRD > Cc: amsat-bb > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > You can download SatPC32 here and enter your existing registration code. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: >> I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has to pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. There is no way to get around it. Suggestions. >> >> >> 73 Bob-W7LRD >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:51:13 -0500 > From: Paul Stoetzer > To: Bob- W7LRD > Cc: amsat-bb > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Would help to include the link! > > http://www.dk1tb.de/indexeng.htm > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> You can download SatPC32 here and enter your existing registration code. >> >> 73, >> >> Paul, N8HM >> >> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: >>> I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has to pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. There is no way to get around it. Suggestions. >>> >>> >>> 73 Bob-W7LRD >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 20:53:35 -0600 > From: "Alan" > To: "'Bob- W7LRD'" , "'amsat-bb'" > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 > Message-ID: <000001d38ce2$df52cf00$9df86d00$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Bob, > > No, you can download the demo version for free. Enter your registration > number, and you are set. > > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > pay. > way > < > < > <73 Bob-W7LRD > <_______________________________________________ > AMSAT- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 03:25:28 -0600 > From: "Nick Pugh" > To: "'amsat-bb'" > Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > Message-ID: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > I am running win 7 and when I try to run foxtelm it ask to download Java. I > take all the defaults and Java reports installed but foxtelm can not seam to > find it. Fox telim.jav runs but when I copy ao 91 it complains about sat > id. > > help > > > > > nick > > Cell????? 337 258 2527 > ? > Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School > Disagree I Learn > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 07:24:16 -0600 > From: "Nick Pugh" > To: "'KC'" , "'amsat-bb'" > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > Message-ID: <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? > > > > > > > nick > > Cell????? 337 258 2527 > ? > Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School > Disagree I Learn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM > To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install 32 > bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link on > the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 07:46:59 -0500 > From: KC > To: Nick Pugh , "'amsat-bb'" > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > Message-ID: > <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" > > If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install 32 > bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link on > the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:11:12 -0500 > From: Milen KG2C > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D recorded pass at 2017-01-13 16:33 UTC > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi all, > > This is my first message to this group since I'm new to satellites and have > only a few QSOs under my belt. Still I managed to record and decode two > passes of Fox-1D so far. I thought that it might be interesting for those > of you that missed today's High Speed Data pass to have a recording of it, > so I went outside and recorded the 16:33 UTC pass using my SDRPlay RSP1A > and an Arrow II antenna. > The video below is some of that IQ recording being played using SDRUno and > then the audio being played to Foxtelem using a vistual audio cable. I have > the full pass IQ recorded but kept the video at 5min. > > Link: https://youtu.be/ob0BkiZQgFw > > Please excuse the fading of the signal at times. I was hand holding and > aiming the antenna and I am new to this + it was quite windy. > > Best wishes, > > Milen Bourilkov KG2C > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 00:39:18 -0500 > From: > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release - No. 18-01 > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > > ARISS News Release - No. 18-01 > > > > Two More US Schools/Groups Move Into Phase 2 of ARISS Selections > > > > January 13, 2018 - The ARISS-US team (Amateur Radio on the International Space Station) is pleased to announce that two more US schools or organizations have had their ARISS proposals selected for advancement to the next stage of planning for amateur radio contacts in 2018. These schools will take advantage of new scheduling opportunities to speak with International Space Station (ISS) crew members using the ARISS equipment. > > > > The selected schools submitted proposals before the proposal window closed last November and join the 13 schools and groups chosen a few weeks ago. The two extra scheduling opportunities are special events thanks to ARISS's two major sponsors, the NASA Space Communications and Navigation group and the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space. The events that the schools' students will travel to are aerospace conferences where their ARISS radio contacts will be a highlight open to conference attendees. > > > > The schools and venues are: > > ? Quest for Space/Quest Institute for Quality Education in San Jose, California, whose ARISS contact will be featured at the ISS R&D Conference, July 23-26 in San Francisco, California > > > > ? Burns Science & Technical Charter School in Oak Hill, Florida, whose ARISS contact will be featured at the S.P.A.C.E. Conference, July 11-13 at NASA's Kennedy Space Center. > > > > ARISS's primary goal is to engage young people in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) activities, and to involve them in activities related to space exploration, amateur radio, communications, and areas of associated study and career possibilities. > > > > > > ABOUT ARISS > > Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) in the United States, and other international space agencies and international amateur radio organizations around the world. The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers from amateur radio clubs and coordination from the ARISS team, the ISS crew members speak directly with large group audiences in a variety of public forums such as school assemblies, science centers and museums, Scout camporees, jamborees and space camps, where student > s, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies and Amateur Radio. > > > > Find more information at www.ariss.org, www.amsat.organd www.arrl.org. > > > > ### > > > > Contact: > > David Jordan, AA4KN > > ARISS PR > > aa4kn at amsat.org > > (321) 662-9486 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 08:35:34 -0500 > From: KC > To: Nick Pugh , "'amsat-bb'" > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > Message-ID: > <160f4e1e870.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" > > Fox 1-D, I don't believe that they've posted telemetry files yet as they > need to identify which object it is, in the amsat list object a-f, t, and > u. Perhaps someone else may comment. > > Kevin > N2JPE > > > > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > On January 14, 2018 8:24:24 AM "Nick Pugh" wrote: > >> Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nick >> >> Cell????? 337 258 2527 >> ? >> Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School >> Disagree I Learn >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM >> To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help >> >> If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install 32 >> bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link on >> the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. >> >> Sent with AquaMail for Android >> http://www.aqua-mail.com >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 09:55:12 -0500 > From: Mvivona > To: KC > Cc: amsat-bb > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > Message-ID: <5BF574D6-F8EB-4DE6-825D-FA787E5F623F at yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Object #99934 > I believe it's actually labeled as AO-92 and is listed in nasabare.txt on the AMSAT site. > > Michael KC4ZVA > > > On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:35 AM, KC wrote: > > Fox 1-D, I don't believe that they've posted telemetry files yet as they need to identify which object it is, in the amsat list object a-f, t, and u. Perhaps someone else may comment. > > Kevin > N2JPE > > > > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > >> On January 14, 2018 8:24:24 AM "Nick Pugh" wrote: >> >> Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nick >> >> Cell 337 258 2527 >> >> Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School >> Disagree I Learn >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM >> To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help >> >> If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install 32 >> bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link on >> the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. >> >> Sent with AquaMail for Android >> http://www.aqua-mail.com >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ------------------------------ > > End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 20 > **************************************** From hamsat at xs4all.nl Tue Jan 16 12:58:15 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:58:15 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-OSCAR 92 identified In-Reply-To: <6556fb84-2efb-0e1f-7959-105c663fc65e@seznam.cz> References: <7d3a9475-05e3-d291-7809-5b01ab2dfdfb@seznam.cz> <6556fb84-2efb-0e1f-7959-105c663fc65e@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <1128a1a7-b91d-f900-8fd2-0cdeac65b357@xs4all.nl> Jarda, The TLE set for 43137, AO 92, is now available in this list: http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt 73, Nico PA0DLO On 16-01-18 09:13, ok2gz wrote: > How to get TLE data with Norad ID 43137 ? > > Thanks to Nico PA0DLO for identifying AO-92. He did the same job in > case of AO-91. > When we know the Norad ID 43137, where I can find these TLE data? > Automatic update of GPredict the data did not reach, they are not on > the celestrak-web page tle-new also... > Can anybody help me and others too? > > 73 > ??? jarda ok2gz > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From zryder94 at gmail.com Tue Jan 16 13:24:06 2018 From: zryder94 at gmail.com (Mike Thompson) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:24:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed In-Reply-To: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Congratulations! That?s an amazing achievement! On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:34 AM Ronald Oldham wrote: > > On Sunday I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US > grids . I would like to publicly thank Doug - N6UA for going out of his way > to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable > satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this > accomplishment. In reviewing my log I would like to acknowledge the help > of the following "top ten" portable operators and provide the number grids > that I received because of their efforts > 1 ND9M 332 K8YSE 273 AC0RA 234 W5PFG 205 WC7V 126 WD9EWK 117 KA6SIP 108 > NJ7H 89 AA5CK 710 KB5WIA 610 KB0RZD 6 > Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years. > 73, > Ron - N8RO > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aa5uk at yahoo.com Tue Jan 16 13:36:18 2018 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed In-Reply-To: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <141064653.1764747.1516109778803@mail.yahoo.com> Congratulations Ron! 73, Adrian AA5UK On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, 6:36:17 AM CST, Ronald Oldham wrote: On Sunday I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US grids . I would like to publicly thank Doug - N6UA for going out of his way to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this accomplishment.? In reviewing my log I would like to acknowledge the help of the following "top ten" portable operators and provide the number grids that I received because of their efforts 1 ND9M 332 K8YSE 273 AC0RA 234 W5PFG 205 WC7V 126 WD9EWK 117 KA6SIP 108 NJ7H ? 89 AA5CK 710 KB5WIA 610 KB0RZD 6 Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years. 73, Ron - N8RO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hamsat at xs4all.nl Tue Jan 16 14:04:34 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 15:04:34 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] PICSAT identified Message-ID: All, Detailed doppler measurements show that PICSAT is object 43131, 2018-004W. 73, Nico PA0DLO From kx9x at yahoo.com Tue Jan 16 14:11:50 2018 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 14:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed In-Reply-To: <141064653.1764747.1516109778803@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> <141064653.1764747.1516109778803@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <436995385.4164334.1516111910502@mail.yahoo.com> Nice job, Ron! Congrats! Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, 8:40:52 AM EST, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB wrote: Congratulations Ron! 73, Adrian AA5UK ? ? On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, 6:36:17 AM CST, Ronald Oldham wrote:? On Sunday I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US grids . I would like to publicly thank Doug - N6UA for going out of his way to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this accomplishment.? In reviewing my log I would like to acknowledge the help of the following "top ten" portable operators and provide the number grids that I received because of their efforts 1 ND9M 332 K8YSE 273 AC0RA 234 W5PFG 205 WC7V 126 WD9EWK 117 KA6SIP 108 NJ7H ? 89 AA5CK 710 KB5WIA 610 KB0RZD 6 Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years. 73, Ron - N8RO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Tue Jan 16 14:12:13 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 08:12:13 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX-1D Now AO-92 In-Reply-To: <1924204793.3466161.1516030700328@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1668818602.7796.1515877227746@myemail.cox.net> <1924204793.3466161.1516030700328@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000201d38ed4$01cab870$05602950$@gmail.com> NASA.ALL and NASABARE.TXT will be updated today. An announcement will be made here, and you can then use the Keps update function in SatPC32 to grab it. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: < < FOX-1D has now been officially changed to AO-92 Change shown in SATPC32 References: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1980803123.4283705.1516119505720@mail.yahoo.com> Ron, CONGRATS!!! That's a fabulous accomplishment!! It makes us Rovers feel good to help efforts like yours become reality. 73, Bob K8BL ________________________________ From: Ronald Oldham To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:34 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed On Sunday I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US grids . I would like to publicly thank Doug - N6UA for going out of his way to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this accomplishment. In reviewing my log I would like to acknowledge the help of the following "top ten" portable operators and provide the number grids that I received because of their efforts 1 ND9M 332 K8YSE 273 AC0RA 234 W5PFG 205 WC7V 126 WD9EWK 117 KA6SIP 108 NJ7H 89 AA5CK 710 KB5WIA 610 KB0RZD 6 Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years. 73, Ron - N8RO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ingejack at cox.net Tue Jan 16 17:00:02 2018 From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 10:00:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Message-ID: <1585053257.5667.1516122002867@myemail.cox.net> Pass at 1650Z of AO-92 I heard someone transmitting on the satellite. Did not get the call sign of person transmitting however it was one time and right after the beacon came on announcing the Sat was in safe Mode ! very strong downlink signal ! JACK KC7MG From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Tue Jan 16 17:15:50 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: <1585053257.5667.1516122002867@myemail.cox.net> References: <1585053257.5667.1516122002867@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: <1797569615.445739.1516122950613@mail.yahoo.com> vu2IIa, Mahesh noticed during the pass over India in the telemetry decode that the transponder was "ON" 73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: alex weimer To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 10:33 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Pass at 1650Z of AO-92 I heard someone transmitting on the satellite. Did not get the call sign of person transmitting however it was one time and right after the beacon came on announcing the Sat was in safe Mode !? very strong downlink signal ! JACK? KC7MG _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Tue Jan 16 17:34:23 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:34:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results Message-ID: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we have done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position on the ground. The images can be seen at http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be found at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the camera experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Jan 16 17:42:45 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:42:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [keps] Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 1-16-2018 In-Reply-To: <4174C185BE604490B6400813A5D45DF5@ray45af0265077> References: <4174C185BE604490B6400813A5D45DF5@ray45af0265077> Message-ID: AO-92 keps are now in nasabare.txt! Update your tracking software and it should be there. 73, Paul, N8HM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ray Hoad Date: Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:09 PM Subject: [keps] Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 1-16-2018 To: KEPS Nico Janssen, PA0DLO, by detailed doppler measurements has confirmed the identity of the AO-92 and PICSAT from the 1-12-2018 0358 GMT India PSLV-C40 launch. They have been added to the AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution: PICSAT - NORAD CAT ID 43131 AO-92 - NORAD CAT ID 43137 The following objects have been dropped from the AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution: OBJECT A - NORAD CAT ID 43111 OBJECT B - NORAD CAT ID 43112 OBJECT C - NORAD CAT ID 43113 OBJECT D - NORAD CAT ID 43114 OBJECT E - NORAD CAT ID 43115 OBJECT F - NORAD CAT ID 43116 OBJECT T - NORAD CAT ID 43128 OBJECT U - NORAD CAT ID 43129 99934 - NORAD CAT ID 99934 Please modify your tracking program as required. _______________________________________________ Via the Keps mailing list courtesy of AMSAT-NA http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/keps From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jan 16 18:11:32 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:11:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 In-Reply-To: <1797569615.445739.1516122950613@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1585053257.5667.1516122002867@myemail.cox.net> <1797569615.445739.1516122950613@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Transponder mode was left on as part of testing, and turned off on the next US pass. Please continue not to uplink to AO-92, although the commissioning and command teams really appreciate signal reports and especially telemetry uploaded to the server. We especially appreciate telemetry from folks who are located in places that have not historically sent much telemetry such as India. A big thank you to VU2IIA, VU3TYG, VU3BOJ from India. We have also received telemetry from Eastern (and Western) Russia, China, Japan, Africa, Eurasia, and many other countries and areas around the world. THANK YOU ALL! On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Nitin Muttin via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > vu2IIa, Mahesh noticed during the pass over India in the telemetry decode > that the transponder was "ON" > 73 > Nitin [VU3TYG] > > From: alex weimer > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 10:33 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 > > Pass at 1650Z of AO-92 I heard someone transmitting on the satellite. Did > not get the call sign of person transmitting however it was one time and > right after the beacon came on announcing the Sat was in safe Mode ! very > strong downlink signal ! JACK KC7MG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Tue Jan 16 16:06:24 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 10:06:24 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed In-Reply-To: <436995385.4164334.1516111910502@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> <141064653.1764747.1516109778803@mail.yahoo.com> <436995385.4164334.1516111910502@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Great achievement! 73 Brad WF7T On Jan 16, 2018, 8:12 AM -0600, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB , wrote: > Nice job, Ron! Congrats! > Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X > > On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, 8:40:52 AM EST, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Congratulations Ron! > 73, Adrian AA5UK > > > ? ? On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, 6:36:17 AM CST, Ronald Oldham wrote: > > > On Sunday I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US grids . I would like to publicly thank Doug - N6UA for going out of his way to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this accomplishment.? In reviewing my log I would like to acknowledge the help of the following "top ten" portable operators and provide the number grids that I received because of their efforts > 1 ND9M 332 K8YSE 273 AC0RA 234 W5PFG 205 WC7V 126 WD9EWK 117 KA6SIP 108 NJ7H ? 89 AA5CK 710 KB5WIA 610 KB0RZD 6 > Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years. > 73, > Ron - N8RO > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From povern at yahoo.com Tue Jan 16 13:07:17 2018 From: povern at yahoo.com (Povern) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:07:17 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed In-Reply-To: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49CF3F48-0EDC-4E56-A136-B74210F2B798@yahoo.com> Wow! Impressive! Congrats on the 488! > Paul Overn > On Jan 16, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Ronald Oldham wrote: > > > On Sunday I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US grids . I would like to publicly thank Doug - N6UA for going out of his way to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this accomplishment. In reviewing my log I would like to acknowledge the help of the following "top ten" portable operators and provide the number grids that I received because of their efforts > 1 ND9M 332 K8YSE 273 AC0RA 234 W5PFG 205 WC7V 126 WD9EWK 117 KA6SIP 108 NJ7H 89 AA5CK 710 KB5WIA 610 KB0RZD 6 > Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years. > 73, > Ron - N8RO > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va6bmj at gmail.com Tue Jan 16 19:42:48 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:42:48 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [keps] Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 1-16-2018 In-Reply-To: References: <4174C185BE604490B6400813A5D45DF5@ray45af0265077> Message-ID: On 1/16/18, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > AO-92 keps are now in nasabare.txt! Update your tracking software and it > should be there. > I updated the files for my copy of Gpredict a short while ago. I have it set up that it gets the TLEs from Celestrak. There's a file for NORAD object 43137 but it doesn't appear that the given name has been revised to AO-92. I fixed that after a few minutes of editing and added a file for the transponder as well. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Jan 16 19:59:07 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 14:59:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [keps] Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 1-16-2018 In-Reply-To: References: <4174C185BE604490B6400813A5D45DF5@ray45af0265077> Message-ID: It's currently in the tle-new.txt file on CelesTrak. Eventually T. S. Kelso will add it to amateur.txt, likely under the name "FOX-1D (AO-92)." 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:42 PM, B J wrote: > On 1/16/18, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> AO-92 keps are now in nasabare.txt! Update your tracking software and it >> should be there. >> > > > > I updated the files for my copy of Gpredict a short while ago. I have > it set up that it gets the TLEs from Celestrak. There's a file for > NORAD object 43137 but it doesn't appear that the given name has been > revised to AO-92. > > I fixed that after a few minutes of editing and added a file for the > transponder as well. > > 73s > > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From AJ9N at aol.com Tue Jan 16 21:02:56 2018 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:02:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-16 20:30 UTC Message-ID: <1fc4d6.33653dd7.478fc280@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-16 20:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Prva srednja informati?ka ?kola, Zagreb, Croatia, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-01-18 08:46:52 UTC 34 deg Naka Junior High School, Kakamigahara City, Japan, direct via 8J25D (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP (***) Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-01-22 10:23:21 UTC 53 deg (***) The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus, telebridge via W6SRJ (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP (***) Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-24 10:35:45 UTC 56 deg (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send yo ur reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 127 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-01-16 20:30 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1201. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1150. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-04 09:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From zleffke at vt.edu Tue Jan 16 21:18:06 2018 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:18:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results In-Reply-To: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> In an attempt to behave differently than I normally do...I'll try to keep this one short. Quick warning....I'm speaking personally here, not on behalf of VT or anything, though I know there are many that share my sentiments here. This entire experience would not have been possible without AMSAT and the Amateur Radio community.? And I don't just mean the obviously awesome folks that are on the Engineering team and the Operations team that have helped us so much along the way.? I also mean everyone out there collecting telemetry and forwarding to the server.? We wouldn't have made it without the entire community backing us up, and we recognize that! So for all of AMSAT and everyone else, HUGE thank you from VT.? I hope the partnership continues for as long as possible with as many missions as possible. Thanks again! Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Aerospace Systems Lab Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 1/16/2018 12:34 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > > > For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we have > done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this > morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position on > the ground. The images can be seen at > http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html > > > > Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be found > at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and > https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . > > > > Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the camera > experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! > > > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > AMSAT VP Operations > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ciprian at sufitchi.com Tue Jan 16 21:32:11 2018 From: ciprian at sufitchi.com (Ciprian Sufitchi) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:32:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [keps] Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 1-16-2018 In-Reply-To: References: <4174C185BE604490B6400813A5D45DF5@ray45af0265077> Message-ID: <003101d38f11$7831c520$68954f60$@sufitchi.com> An alternate TLE source you may consider is n2yo.com. The TLE repository is not advertised, but for those interested, this is the location: http://www.n2yo.com/tle2/ In that foloder the keplerian elements are organzied by categories, 18.txt being 3-line element set for Amateur Radio satellites. The full path is http://www.n2yo.com/tle2/18.txt The list is compiled from different sources, mainly AFSPC, and it is updated on a hourly basis. 73s de Chip N2YO -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:59 PM To: B J Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [keps] Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 1-16-2018 It's currently in the tle-new.txt file on CelesTrak. Eventually T. S. Kelso will add it to amateur.txt, likely under the name "FOX-1D (AO-92)." 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:42 PM, B J wrote: > On 1/16/18, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >> AO-92 keps are now in nasabare.txt! Update your tracking software and >> it should be there. >> > > > > I updated the files for my copy of Gpredict a short while ago. I have > it set up that it gets the TLEs from Celestrak. There's a file for > NORAD object 43137 but it doesn't appear that the given name has been > revised to AO-92. > > I fixed that after a few minutes of editing and added a file for the > transponder as well. > > 73s > > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k.alexander at rogers.com Tue Jan 16 22:08:05 2018 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 22:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed In-Reply-To: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1181990089.1587849.1516084294126@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1229062949.3243038.1516140485925@mail.yahoo.com> Congratulations Ron on a job well done! I hope to be able to give you a handful of Canadian grids before move to HS-Land! 73, KenVE3HLS From: Ronald Oldham To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:36 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] 488 US Grids Completed On Sunday I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US grids . I would like to publicly thank Doug - N6UA for going out of his way to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this accomplishment.? In reviewing my log I would like to acknowledge the help of the following "top ten" portable operators and provide the number grids that I received because of their efforts 1 ND9M 332 K8YSE 273 AC0RA 234 W5PFG 205 WC7V 126 WD9EWK 117 KA6SIP 108 NJ7H ? 89 AA5CK 710 KB5WIA 610 KB0RZD 6 Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years. 73, Ron - N8RO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com Tue Jan 16 22:31:28 2018 From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:31:28 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Ham Talk Live! Episode 98 - Building Satellites and Fox 1D with Jerry, N0JY Message-ID: <5a5e7d41.9c136b0a.de1e1.ab8b@mx.google.com> Relay from HamTalkLive Post on QRZ.com http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads%2Fham-talk-live-episode-98-building- satellites-and-fox-1d-with-jerry-n0jy.595558%2F Thursday night at 9 pm Eastern time, Jerry Buxton, N0JY the vice president for engineering at AMSAT will be on the show to talk about the process of building amateur radio satellites, and the latest on the newest bird, Fox 1D which just arrived in space last week! Jerry will take your questions LIVE. Tune into Ham Talk Live! Thursday night at 9 pm Eastern time by going to hamtalklive.com. When the audio player indicates LIVE, just hit the play button! If you miss the show live, you can listen on demand 24/7/365.25 also at hamtalklive.com; or a podcast version is on nearly all podcast sites a few minutes after the live show is over. Some sites include Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Google Play, SoundCloud, and iHeart Podcasts; and it's also available on YouTube. Be sure to CALL in with your questions and comments by calling 812-NET-HAM-1 live during the show, or by Skype. Our username is hamtalklive. You can also tweet your questions before or during the show to @HamTalkLive. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From fredcastello at gmail.com Wed Jan 17 10:23:55 2018 From: fredcastello at gmail.com (Fred Castello) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 05:23:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Other Signal Near Fox-1D Message-ID: Hello All, As one have who has been enjoying collecting telemetry and contributing to the Fox-1D effort (although minimally) I have noticed what seems to be a big signal near the Fox-1D telemetry signal, especially often early in the pass. I wonder if anyone else has noticed this as well? I am assuming it is one of the other 31 satellites that were released around the same time as our bird was but that is just a guess. I am also guessing that the signal looks like video, but again I have no basis on which to base that. Thanks to all who have contributed to this awesome bird and its success and congratulations. Anybody know what this is? It seems to be at about 145.8300. Thanks, Fred Castello - KF4FC From kb2ysi at gmail.com Wed Jan 17 13:32:51 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 08:32:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results In-Reply-To: <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> Message-ID: These are pretty cool and I hope to attempt to copy some at some point. Will the picture experiment be running / accessible on a continuous basis or a schedule? 73, Don KB2YSI On Jan 16, 2018 16:19, "Zach Leffke" wrote: > In an attempt to behave differently than I normally do...I'll try to keep > this one short. > > Quick warning....I'm speaking personally here, not on behalf of VT or > anything, though I know there are many that share my sentiments here. > > This entire experience would not have been possible without AMSAT and the > Amateur Radio community. And I don't just mean the obviously awesome folks > that are on the Engineering team and the Operations team that have helped > us so much along the way. I also mean everyone out there collecting > telemetry and forwarding to the server. We wouldn't have made it without > the entire community backing us up, and we recognize that! > > So for all of AMSAT and everyone else, HUGE thank you from VT. I hope the > partnership continues for as long as possible with as many missions as > possible. > > > Thanks again! > > Zach, KJ4QLP > > Research Associate > Aerospace Systems Lab > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > On 1/16/2018 12:34 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > >> >> For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we >> have >> done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this >> morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position >> on >> the ground. The images can be seen at >> http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html >> >> >> Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be >> found >> at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and >> https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . >> >> >> Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the >> camera >> experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! >> >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> AMSAT VP Operations >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From royldean at gmail.com Wed Jan 17 14:35:14 2018 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:35:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Other Signal Near Fox-1D Message-ID: Fred, I believe that wide signal is CAS-4B telemetry? I know it's been mentioned on twitter several times. --Roy K3RLD Hello All, > As one have who has been enjoying collecting telemetry and contributing to > the Fox-1D effort (although minimally) I have noticed what seems to be a > big signal near the Fox-1D telemetry signal, especially often early in the > pass. I wonder if anyone else has noticed this as well? I am assuming it is > one of the other 31 satellites that were released around the same time as > our bird was but that is just a guess. I am also guessing that the signal > looks like video, but again I have no basis on which to base that. Thanks > to all who have contributed to this awesome bird and its success and > congratulations. > Anybody know what this is? It seems to be at about 145.8300. > Thanks, > Fred Castello - KF4FC From wa4hfn at comcast.net Wed Jan 17 14:58:00 2018 From: wa4hfn at comcast.net (DAMON RUNION) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 08:58:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Master Message-ID: <1292528383.126923.1516201081263@connect.xfinity.com> Congrats to Ron Oldham N8RO Grid Master award #8 good job Ron WA4HFN Damon em55 http://www.squirtthebirds.com From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Wed Jan 17 15:25:44 2018 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:25:44 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Master In-Reply-To: <1292528383.126923.1516201081263@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1292528383.126923.1516201081263@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Congrats, Ron. -----Original Message----- From: DAMON RUNION Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:58 AM To: AMSAT Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Master Congrats to Ron Oldham N8RO Grid Master award #8 good job Ron WA4HFN Damon em55 http://www.squirtthebirds.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k.swaggart at charter.net Wed Jan 17 16:19:15 2018 From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 08:19:15 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat demodulator? Message-ID: <000e01d38fae$ec0d9170$c428b450$@charter.net> Have been trying to decode the 435.525 MHz beacons from PicSat without success. The modulation is described as "GMSK modulation with G3RUH scrambling". I'm assuming the baud rate is 9600. Normally I use UZ7HO's High-Speed SoundModem for telemetry reception. Tnx, Ken, W7KKE From scott23192 at gmail.com Wed Jan 17 16:56:00 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:56:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat demodulator? In-Reply-To: <000e01d38fae$ec0d9170$c428b450$@charter.net> References: <000e01d38fae$ec0d9170$c428b450$@charter.net> Message-ID: Despite the documentation, PicSat beacons so far have been 1k2 BPSK. There is a 1k2 BPSK software modem in: http://uz7.ho.ua/modem_beta/other-versions.zip ... and the demod on that would be USB. Of course the bandwidth & centering of the audio output is critical for this scheme; what works well for me is to output the audio (I use HDSDR into VB Audio virtual cable) at 4 KHz with the signal centered on the 2000 Hz mark. If you match that 2000 Hz center on the 1k2 BPSK software modem screen, it decodes very nicely. -Scott, K4KDR ================================ On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Ken Swaggart wrote: > Have been trying to decode the 435.525 MHz beacons from PicSat without > success. The modulation is described as "GMSK modulation with G3RUH > scrambling". I'm assuming the baud rate is 9600. Normally I use UZ7HO's > High-Speed SoundModem for telemetry reception. > > Tnx, > Ken, W7KKE From marklhammond at gmail.com Wed Jan 17 16:56:56 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:56:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] WTB L-band module for TS-790a Message-ID: Hello Folks, Does anyone by chance have a working L-band module for the good old TS-790a? It would really come in handy for command purposes with our Fox satellites. I'm kicking myself for selling the one I did have...sigh. Please contact me directly if you have one you'd sell. 73, Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Wed Jan 17 18:01:35 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:01:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat demodulator? In-Reply-To: References: <000e01d38fae$ec0d9170$c428b450$@charter.net> Message-ID: <328598872.4600062.1516212095913@mail.yahoo.com> I have used the the software modem under G3RUH-BPSK folder. The audio is fed from an Icom 821H using a Signalink USB + doppler correction, tried in both FM and USB mode but no decode. Will try the signal centered on the 2000 Hz mark as suggested.?73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: Scott To: Ken Swaggart Cc: AMSAT BB Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2018 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PicSat demodulator? Despite the documentation, PicSat beacons so far have been 1k2 BPSK. There is a 1k2 BPSK software modem in: http://uz7.ho.ua/modem_beta/other-versions.zip ... and the demod on that would be USB.? Of course the bandwidth & centering of the audio output is critical for this scheme; what works well for me is to output the audio (I use HDSDR into VB Audio virtual cable) at 4 KHz with the signal centered on the 2000 Hz mark.? If you match that 2000 Hz center on the 1k2 BPSK software modem screen, it decodes very nicely. -Scott,? K4KDR ================================ On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Ken Swaggart wrote: > Have been trying to decode the 435.525 MHz beacons from PicSat without > success. The modulation is described as "GMSK modulation with G3RUH > scrambling". I'm assuming the baud rate is 9600.? Normally I use UZ7HO's > High-Speed SoundModem for telemetry reception. > > Tnx, > Ken, W7KKE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From scott23192 at gmail.com Wed Jan 17 18:24:48 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:24:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat demodulator? In-Reply-To: <328598872.4600062.1516212095913@mail.yahoo.com> References: <000e01d38fae$ec0d9170$c428b450$@charter.net> <328598872.4600062.1516212095913@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm finally getting around to decoding a pass from this morning & made a screen print if the settings might benefit anyone. Please disregard the RF frequency display; I'm replaying a recording from another system. http://www.qsl.net/k/k4kdr//images/2018-01-17--1455--picsat-screen.png 73! -Scott, K4KDR =========================== On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Nitin Muttin wrote: > I have used the the software modem under G3RUH-BPSK folder. The audio is > fed from an Icom 821H using a Signalink USB + doppler correction, tried in > both FM and USB mode but no decode. Will try the signal centered on the > 2000 Hz mark as suggested. > > 73 > Nitin [VU3TYG] > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Scott > *To:* Ken Swaggart > *Cc:* AMSAT BB > *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 January 2018 10:28 PM > *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] PicSat demodulator? > > Despite the documentation, PicSat beacons so far have been 1k2 BPSK. > > There is a 1k2 BPSK software modem in: > > http://uz7.ho.ua/modem_beta/other-versions.zip > > ... and the demod on that would be USB. Of course the bandwidth & > centering of the audio output is critical for this scheme; what works well > for me is to output the audio (I use HDSDR into VB Audio virtual cable) at > 4 KHz with the signal centered on the 2000 Hz mark. If you match that 2000 > Hz center on the 1k2 BPSK software modem screen, it decodes very nicely. > > -Scott, K4KDR > > ================================ > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Ken Swaggart > wrote: > > > Have been trying to decode the 435.525 MHz beacons from PicSat without > > success. The modulation is described as "GMSK modulation with G3RUH > > scrambling". I'm assuming the baud rate is 9600. Normally I use UZ7HO's > > High-Speed SoundModem for telemetry reception. > > > > Tnx, > > Ken, W7KKE > From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Wed Jan 17 18:37:18 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:37:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] =?iso-8859-1?q?Upcoming_ARISS_contact_with_Prva_srednj?= =?iso-8859-1?q?a_informaticka_skola=2C_Zagreb=2C_Croatia?= Message-ID: <5855C5B471784CB19F4046811BDECB78@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Prva srednja informaticka skola, Zagreb, Croatia on 18 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:46 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK6MJ. The contact should be audible over Australia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. "Prva srednja informaticka skola is a secondary (vocational) school of applied informatics located in Zagreb, the capital city of Croatia. It is a small private school that puts great importance on STEM related subjects and education. After a four year programme, our students graduate as a qualified computer technicians and computer programmers. The school is trying to implement modern and innovative techniques of education that go beyond the standard and traditional classroom model of presenting knowledge. For instance, we nourish students' interest in astronomy and have telescope workshops, use virtual reality technology and other innovative programs and applications to explore scientific topics and emphasize the importance of field work and research. That is the reason why this project is of extreme importance and relevance to the school." Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. How do you shower in microgravity? 2. Has any of the crew members ever had significant health complications on ISS, if so, what is the procedure then? 3. How do you fight muscle loss? 4. What type of studies are done in space and what was your most interesting task or experiment? 5. Do you do any research on cohesion forces in materials under conditions of weightlessness? 6. Do you carry out experiments on living cells and if you do, do they differ from those done on Earth? 7. Is your daily routine organized according to the New Earth Time or according to the station orbit? 8. What are career profiles of the station crew? 9. Can you describe how you sleep on ISS and the troubles you experience with sleeping (if there are any)? 10. Is this your first time on ISS and is there a limit to the number of going to ISS and a time limit to staying there? 11. Have you ever come across any new or unexplained phenomena? 12. What does before and during the take-off feel like? 13. What do you miss the most from Earth while orbiting around it? 14. Is it weird to swallow food and digest when there is no gravity? 15. How many times a day do astronauts see the sunset and the sunrise? 16. What is your favorite pastime activity on ISS? 17. Have you ever had problems with micrometeorites when working outside the station? 18. How long is the astronaut training, especially physical training? 19. How long did it take you to adapt to life on ISS? 20. Can things be sent and how from the station to Earth? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Naka Junior High School, Kakamigahara City, Japan, direct via 8J25D The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-01-22 10:23 UTC 2. The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-24 10:35 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jan 17 18:59:23 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:59:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results In-Reply-To: References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> Message-ID: I have read AMSAT officials say it will be on a schedule between the 2m/70cm transponder and also the L band uplink. The camera also turns off after 40 minutes from what I understand, so it couldn't be on 24/7 very easily. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Jan 17, 2018 08:34, "Don KB2YSI" wrote: These are pretty cool and I hope to attempt to copy some at some point. Will the picture experiment be running / accessible on a continuous basis or a schedule? 73, Don KB2YSI On Jan 16, 2018 16:19, "Zach Leffke" wrote: > In an attempt to behave differently than I normally do...I'll try to keep > this one short. > > Quick warning....I'm speaking personally here, not on behalf of VT or > anything, though I know there are many that share my sentiments here. > > This entire experience would not have been possible without AMSAT and the > Amateur Radio community. And I don't just mean the obviously awesome folks > that are on the Engineering team and the Operations team that have helped > us so much along the way. I also mean everyone out there collecting > telemetry and forwarding to the server. We wouldn't have made it without > the entire community backing us up, and we recognize that! > > So for all of AMSAT and everyone else, HUGE thank you from VT. I hope the > partnership continues for as long as possible with as many missions as > possible. > > > Thanks again! > > Zach, KJ4QLP > > Research Associate > Aerospace Systems Lab > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > On 1/16/2018 12:34 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > >> >> For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we >> have >> done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this >> morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position >> on >> the ground. The images can be seen at >> http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html >> >> >> Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be >> found >> at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and >> https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . >> >> >> Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the >> camera >> experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! >> >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> AMSAT VP Operations >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jan 17 19:01:45 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:01:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results In-Reply-To: References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> Message-ID: Correct. Here is the applicable text from "Getting Ready for Fox-1D" "Operating Schedule Notes While the U/v FM transponders on AO-85 and AO-91 are generally available for amateur use continuously, Fox-1D carries several experimental payloads, including the Virginia Tech camera and the University of Iowa?s HERCI that require the use of the Fox-1 high speed telemetry downlink. The FM transponder is not available in this mode. In addition, times will be scheduled for the use of the L-band Downshifter. The 435 MHz uplink is not available in this mode. Following commissioning, AMSAT Operations will periodically publish an operating schedule via the AMSAT News Service, AMSAT-BB, and AMSAT social media accounts." https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:59 PM, John Brier wrote: > I have read AMSAT officials say it will be on a schedule between the > 2m/70cm transponder and also the L band uplink. > > The camera also turns off after 40 minutes from what I understand, so it > couldn't be on 24/7 very easily. > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Jan 17, 2018 08:34, "Don KB2YSI" wrote: > > These are pretty cool and I hope to attempt to copy some at some point. > > Will the picture experiment be running / accessible on a continuous basis > or a schedule? > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Jan 16, 2018 16:19, "Zach Leffke" wrote: > >> In an attempt to behave differently than I normally do...I'll try to keep >> this one short. >> >> Quick warning....I'm speaking personally here, not on behalf of VT or >> anything, though I know there are many that share my sentiments here. >> >> This entire experience would not have been possible without AMSAT and the >> Amateur Radio community. And I don't just mean the obviously awesome > folks >> that are on the Engineering team and the Operations team that have helped >> us so much along the way. I also mean everyone out there collecting >> telemetry and forwarding to the server. We wouldn't have made it without >> the entire community backing us up, and we recognize that! >> >> So for all of AMSAT and everyone else, HUGE thank you from VT. I hope the >> partnership continues for as long as possible with as many missions as >> possible. >> >> >> Thanks again! >> >> Zach, KJ4QLP >> >> Research Associate >> Aerospace Systems Lab >> Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology >> Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University >> Work Phone: 540-231-4174 >> Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 >> >> On 1/16/2018 12:34 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >> >>> >>> For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we >>> have >>> done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this >>> morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position >>> on >>> the ground. The images can be seen at >>> http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html >>> >>> >>> Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be >>> found >>> at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and >>> https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . >>> >>> >>> Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the >>> camera >>> experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! >>> >>> >>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>> >>> AMSAT VP Operations >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ingejack at cox.net Wed Jan 17 19:57:16 2018 From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 12:57:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid master Message-ID: <1123805731.8503.1516219036158@myemail.cox.net> Congratulations Ron N8RO on a fantastic job obtaining Gridmaster #8 73 JACK KC7MG From g0kla at arrl.net Wed Jan 17 19:33:48 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:33:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem and Fox-1D In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Stefano, Great to hear that you are trying to decode telemetry. You probably need to sit and watch a few passes before it will work unattended, just to make sure you have all the settings right. If you are using the RTL, make sure you have it connected through a virtual cable to FoxTelem from the SDR. You should see the bit pattern and eye diagram when a beacon is being transmitted. There are examples of the eye diagram in the pdf manual. Take a screen shot and share it for advice if it is not decoding. 73Chris On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:27 AM, "Stefano (IU?DFT)" via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I downloaded and installed Fox Telem, left my MacBook on all night with > my NooElec SDR (USB) connected hoping to record and upload data. Nothing > happened. Do I have to do something more? Any help will be really > appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > 73 Stefano (IU?DFT) > > > > > On 14 Jan 2018, at 3:55 PM, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote: > > > > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Indian PAKMODI video of deployment (Robert McGwier) > > 2. Re: Indian PAKMODI video of deployment (Jerry Buxton) > > 3. FOX-1D Now AO-92 (alex weimer) > > 4. I forget (Bob- W7LRD) > > 5. Satpc32 (Bob- W7LRD) > > 6. Re: Satpc32 (Paul Stoetzer) > > 7. Re: Satpc32 (Paul Stoetzer) > > 8. Re: Satpc32 (Alan) > > 9. foxtlem help (Nick Pugh) > > 10. Re: foxtlem help (Nick Pugh) > > 11. Re: foxtlem help (KC) > > 12. Fox-1D recorded pass at 2017-01-13 16:33 UTC (Milen KG2C) > > 13. ARISS News Release - No. 18-01 (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) > > 14. Re: foxtlem help (KC) > > 15. Re: foxtlem help (Mvivona) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:55:46 -0500 > > From: Robert McGwier > > To: Paul Stoetzer > > Cc: amsat bb > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Indian PAKMODI video of deployment > > Message-ID: > > com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > I had to look multiple times to insure myself, it was three. THANKS!! > > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > > >> At about 1:04 of that video, you see three 1U CubeSats ejected. The > >> last one out of that pod is Fox-1D. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Paul, N8HM > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Robert McGwier > >> wrote: > >>> Fox-1D is "somewhere" in the midst of the satellites at the end of the > >>> video. > >>> > >>> Again, this video shows the deserved pride of India in its space group > >>> ISRO. > >>> > >>> https://youtu.be/LKC_cmGHOL0 > >>> > >>> Bob > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Bob McGwier > >>> Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > >>> Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc > >>> Research Professor Virginia Tech > >>> Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security > and > >>> Technology > >>> Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > >>> Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ > >>> Director of AMSAT > >>> Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and > >> AMSAT, > >>> NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Bob McGwier > > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc > > Research Professor Virginia Tech > > Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and > > Technology > > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ > > Director of AMSAT > > Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and > AMSAT, > > NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:16:03 -0600 > > From: Jerry Buxton > > To: Robert McGwier , Paul Stoetzer > > > > Cc: amsat bb > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Indian PAKMODI video of deployment > > Message-ID: <4246b4b0-05f8-9d58-86bc-f6732de5629d at amsat.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Verified for me by Spaceflight, that 1:04 in the video was our > deployment. > > > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > > > On 1/13/2018 13:55, Robert McGwier wrote: > >> I had to look multiple times to insure myself, it was three. THANKS!! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:00:27 -0700 (MST) > > From: alex weimer > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] FOX-1D Now AO-92 > > Message-ID: <1668818602.7796.1515877227746 at myemail.cox.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > FOX-1D has now been officially changed to AO-92 Change shown in > SATPC32 already 73 JACK KC7MG > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:49:54 -0800 (PST) > > From: Bob- W7LRD > > To: amsat-bb > > Subject: [amsat-bb] I forget > > Message-ID: <1365912667.436129.1515880195150 at connect.xfinity.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > I forget what does Ole-Fehler 8004503A, CLASS ID > > > > (A5584957-EF07-419C-BACD-9931F1256D92) > > > > mean when I start up Satpc32? > > > > 73 Bob W7LRD > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:48:26 -0800 (PST) > > From: Bob- W7LRD > > To: amsat-bb > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 > > Message-ID: <1670528.158739.1515898106663 at connect.xfinity.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has to > pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. There > is no way to get around it. Suggestions. > > > > > > 73 Bob-W7LRD > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:50:54 -0500 > > From: Paul Stoetzer > > To: Bob- W7LRD > > Cc: amsat-bb > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 > > Message-ID: > > rciD4ecg at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > You can download SatPC32 here and enter your existing registration code. > > > > 73, > > > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > >> I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has to > pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. There > is no way to get around it. Suggestions. > >> > >> > >> 73 Bob-W7LRD > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:51:13 -0500 > > From: Paul Stoetzer > > To: Bob- W7LRD > > Cc: amsat-bb > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 > > Message-ID: > > gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Would help to include the link! > > > > http://www.dk1tb.de/indexeng.htm > > > > 73, > > > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > >> You can download SatPC32 here and enter your existing registration code. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Paul, N8HM > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > >>> I need to download Satpc32, mine is corrupted. To down load one has > to pay. I have the code from the first time I purchased the program. > There is no way to get around it. Suggestions. > >>> > >>> > >>> 73 Bob-W7LRD > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 20:53:35 -0600 > > From: "Alan" > > To: "'Bob- W7LRD'" , "'amsat-bb'" > > > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 > > Message-ID: <000001d38ce2$df52cf00$9df86d00$@gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Bob, > > > > No, you can download the demo version for free. Enter your registration > > number, and you are set. > > > > > > 73, > > > > Alan > > WA4SCA > > > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > < > > > pay. > > no > > way > > > < > > < > > <73 Bob-W7LRD > > <_______________________________________________ > > > Opinions > > > > AMSAT- > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 03:25:28 -0600 > > From: "Nick Pugh" > > To: "'amsat-bb'" > > Subject: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > Message-ID: <000001d38d19$9ef65940$dce30bc0$@bellsouth.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > I am running win 7 and when I try to run foxtelm it ask to download > Java. I > > take all the defaults and Java reports installed but foxtelm can not > seam to > > find it. Fox telim.jav runs but when I copy ao 91 it complains about sat > > id. > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > nick > > > > Cell????? 337 258 2527 > > ? > > Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School > > Disagree I Learn > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 10 > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 07:24:16 -0600 > > From: "Nick Pugh" > > To: "'KC'" , "'amsat-bb'" > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > Message-ID: <000d01d38d3a$fb0f2650$f12d72f0$@bellsouth.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm files? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nick > > > > Cell????? 337 258 2527 > > ? > > Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School > > Disagree I Learn > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM > > To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > > > If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install > 32 > > bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link > on > > the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. > > > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 11 > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 07:46:59 -0500 > > From: KC > > To: Nick Pugh , "'amsat-bb'" > > > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > Message-ID: > > <160f4b56db8.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb at gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" > > > > If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to install > 32 > > bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions link > on > > the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. > > > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 12 > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:11:12 -0500 > > From: Milen KG2C > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1D recorded pass at 2017-01-13 16:33 UTC > > Message-ID: > > x8w at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Hi all, > > > > This is my first message to this group since I'm new to satellites and > have > > only a few QSOs under my belt. Still I managed to record and decode two > > passes of Fox-1D so far. I thought that it might be interesting for those > > of you that missed today's High Speed Data pass to have a recording of > it, > > so I went outside and recorded the 16:33 UTC pass using my SDRPlay RSP1A > > and an Arrow II antenna. > > The video below is some of that IQ recording being played using SDRUno > and > > then the audio being played to Foxtelem using a vistual audio cable. I > have > > the full pass IQ recorded but kept the video at 5min. > > > > Link: https://youtu.be/ob0BkiZQgFw > > > > Please excuse the fading of the signal at times. I was hand holding and > > aiming the antenna and I am new to this + it was quite windy. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Milen Bourilkov KG2C > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 13 > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 00:39:18 -0500 > > From: > > To: > > Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release - No. 18-01 > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > > > > > > ARISS News Release - No. 18-01 > > > > > > > > Two More US Schools/Groups Move Into Phase 2 of ARISS Selections > > > > > > > > January 13, 2018 - The ARISS-US team (Amateur Radio on the International > Space Station) is pleased to announce that two more US schools or > organizations have had their ARISS proposals selected for advancement to > the next stage of planning for amateur radio contacts in 2018. These > schools will take advantage of new scheduling opportunities to speak with > International Space Station (ISS) crew members using the ARISS equipment. > > > > > > > > The selected schools submitted proposals before the proposal window > closed last November and join the 13 schools and groups chosen a few weeks > ago. The two extra scheduling opportunities are special events thanks to > ARISS's two major sponsors, the NASA Space Communications and Navigation > group and the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space. The events > that the schools' students will travel to are aerospace conferences where > their ARISS radio contacts will be a highlight open to conference attendees. > > > > > > > > The schools and venues are: > > > > ? Quest for Space/Quest Institute for Quality Education in San > Jose, California, whose ARISS contact will be featured at the ISS R&D > Conference, July 23-26 in San Francisco, California > > > > > > > > ? Burns Science & Technical Charter School in Oak Hill, Florida, > whose ARISS contact will be featured at the S.P.A.C.E. Conference, July > 11-13 at NASA's Kennedy Space Center. > > > > > > > > ARISS's primary goal is to engage young people in science, technology, > engineering, and math (STEM) activities, and to involve them in activities > related to space exploration, amateur radio, communications, and areas of > associated study and career possibilities. > > > > > > > > > > > > ABOUT ARISS > > > > Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a > cooperative venture of the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the > American Radio Relay League (ARRL), Center for the Advancement of Science > in Space (CASIS), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) > in the United States, and other international space agencies and > international amateur radio organizations around the world. The primary > goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, > engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts > via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in > classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced > amateur radio volunteers from amateur radio clubs and coordination from the > ARISS team, the ISS crew members speak directly with large group audiences > in a variety of public forums such as school assemblies, science centers > and museums, Scout camporees, jamborees and space camps, where student > > s, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space > technologies and Amateur Radio. > > > > > > > > Find more information at www.ariss.org, www.amsat.organd www.arrl.org. > > > > > > > > ### > > > > > > > > Contact: > > > > David Jordan, AA4KN > > > > ARISS PR > > > > aa4kn at amsat.org > > > > (321) 662-9486 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 14 > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 08:35:34 -0500 > > From: KC > > To: Nick Pugh , "'amsat-bb'" > > > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > Message-ID: > > <160f4e1e870.2808.7f4d2737b6a69b496aabc539d02dbffb at gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Fox 1-D, I don't believe that they've posted telemetry files yet as they > > need to identify which object it is, in the amsat list object a-f, t, and > > u. Perhaps someone else may comment. > > > > Kevin > > N2JPE > > > > > > > > > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > > > On January 14, 2018 8:24:24 AM "Nick Pugh" > wrote: > > > >> Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm > files? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> nick > >> > >> Cell????? 337 258 2527 > >> ? > >> Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School > >> Disagree I Learn > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] > >> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM > >> To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' > >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > >> > >> If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to > install 32 > >> bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions > link on > >> the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. > >> > >> Sent with AquaMail for Android > >> http://www.aqua-mail.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 15 > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 09:55:12 -0500 > > From: Mvivona > > To: KC > > Cc: amsat-bb > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > > Message-ID: <5BF574D6-F8EB-4DE6-825D-FA787E5F623F at yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Object #99934 > > I believe it's actually labeled as AO-92 and is listed in nasabare.txt > on the AMSAT site. > > > > Michael KC4ZVA > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:35 AM, KC wrote: > > > > Fox 1-D, I don't believe that they've posted telemetry files yet as they > need to identify which object it is, in the amsat list object a-f, t, and > u. Perhaps someone else may comment. > > > > Kevin > > N2JPE > > > > > > > > > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > > >> On January 14, 2018 8:24:24 AM "Nick Pugh" > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks that fix the issue now where do I download the fox 1b telm > files? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> nick > >> > >> Cell 337 258 2527 > >> > >> Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School > >> Disagree I Learn > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: KC [mailto:bvfa65 at gmail.com] > >> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:47 AM > >> To: Nick Pugh ; 'amsat-bb' > >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] foxtlem help > >> > >> If it's 64 bit Win 7, then 64 bit Java will install. You need to > install 32 > >> bit Java also. Follow the Java link but look for the other versions > link on > >> the Java site, and install the same Java but 32 bit. > >> > >> Sent with AquaMail for Android > >> http://www.aqua-mail.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons > worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 20 > > **************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From heliox694-iw1dtu at yahoo.com Wed Jan 17 19:46:49 2018 From: heliox694-iw1dtu at yahoo.com (IW1DTU Fer) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results In-Reply-To: References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> Message-ID: <1866789774.5286263.1516218409326@mail.yahoo.com> Congratulations to Virginia Tech for the great result ! Any changes to see the camera on over Europe? 73? Fer? IW1DTU On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 7:06:09 PM GMT, Paul Stoetzer wrote: Correct. Here is the applicable text from "Getting Ready for Fox-1D" "Operating Schedule Notes While the U/v FM transponders on AO-85 and AO-91 are generally available for amateur use continuously, Fox-1D carries several experimental payloads, including the Virginia Tech camera and the University of Iowa?s HERCI that require the use of the Fox-1 high speed telemetry downlink. The FM transponder is not available in this mode. In addition, times will be scheduled for the use of the L-band Downshifter. The 435 MHz uplink is not available in this mode. Following commissioning, AMSAT Operations will periodically publish an operating schedule via the AMSAT News Service, AMSAT-BB, and AMSAT social media accounts." https://www.amsat.org/getting-ready-for-fox-1d/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:59 PM, John Brier wrote: > I have read AMSAT officials say it will be on a schedule between the > 2m/70cm transponder and also the L band uplink. > > The camera also turns off after 40 minutes from what I understand, so it > couldn't be on 24/7 very easily. > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Jan 17, 2018 08:34, "Don KB2YSI" wrote: > > These are pretty cool and I hope to attempt to copy some at some point. > > Will the picture experiment be running / accessible on a continuous basis > or a schedule? > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Jan 16, 2018 16:19, "Zach Leffke" wrote: > >> In an attempt to behave differently than I normally do...I'll try to keep >> this one short. >> >> Quick warning....I'm speaking personally here, not on behalf of VT or >> anything, though I know there are many that share my sentiments here. >> >> This entire experience would not have been possible without AMSAT and the >> Amateur Radio community.? And I don't just mean the obviously awesome > folks >> that are on the Engineering team and the Operations team that have helped >> us so much along the way.? I also mean everyone out there collecting >> telemetry and forwarding to the server.? We wouldn't have made it without >> the entire community backing us up, and we recognize that! >> >> So for all of AMSAT and everyone else, HUGE thank you from VT.? I hope the >> partnership continues for as long as possible with as many missions as >> possible. >> >> >> Thanks again! >> >> Zach, KJ4QLP >> >> Research Associate >> Aerospace Systems Lab >> Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology >> Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University >> Work Phone: 540-231-4174 >> Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 >> >> On 1/16/2018 12:34 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >> >>> >>> For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we >>> have >>> done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this >>> morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position >>> on >>> the ground. The images can be seen at >>> http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html >>> >>> >>> Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be >>> found >>> at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and >>> https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . >>> >>> >>> Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the >>> camera >>> experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! >>> >>> >>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>> >>> AMSAT VP Operations >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hornorama at yahoo.com Wed Jan 17 15:37:57 2018 From: hornorama at yahoo.com (Julian Horn) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 15:37:57 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results In-Reply-To: References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> Message-ID: And will it be active over the UK at any point? Very exciting to see and congrats on the pics - they look excellent! Would love to demo reception of these at events :) A huge well done to everyone concerned. Julian M0NUX > On 17 Jan 2018, at 13:32, Don KB2YSI wrote: > > These are pretty cool and I hope to attempt to copy some at some point. > > Will the picture experiment be running / accessible on a continuous basis > or a schedule? > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Jan 16, 2018 16:19, "Zach Leffke" wrote: > >> In an attempt to behave differently than I normally do...I'll try to keep >> this one short. >> >> Quick warning....I'm speaking personally here, not on behalf of VT or >> anything, though I know there are many that share my sentiments here. >> >> This entire experience would not have been possible without AMSAT and the >> Amateur Radio community. And I don't just mean the obviously awesome folks >> that are on the Engineering team and the Operations team that have helped >> us so much along the way. I also mean everyone out there collecting >> telemetry and forwarding to the server. We wouldn't have made it without >> the entire community backing us up, and we recognize that! >> >> So for all of AMSAT and everyone else, HUGE thank you from VT. I hope the >> partnership continues for as long as possible with as many missions as >> possible. >> >> >> Thanks again! >> >> Zach, KJ4QLP >> >> Research Associate >> Aerospace Systems Lab >> Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology >> Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University >> Work Phone: 540-231-4174 >> Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 >> >> On 1/16/2018 12:34 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: >> >>> >>> For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we >>> have >>> done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this >>> morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position >>> on >>> the ground. The images can be seen at >>> http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html >>> >>> >>> Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be >>> found >>> at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and >>> https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . >>> >>> >>> Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the >>> camera >>> experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! >>> >>> >>> 73, Drew KO4MA >>> >>> AMSAT VP Operations >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From daniel at destevez.net Wed Jan 17 22:12:57 2018 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 23:12:57 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat demodulator? In-Reply-To: References: <000e01d38fae$ec0d9170$c428b450$@charter.net> Message-ID: El 17/01/18 a las 17:56, Scott escribi?: > Despite the documentation, PicSat beacons so far have been 1k2 BPSK. > > There is a 1k2 BPSK software modem in: > > http://uz7.ho.ua/modem_beta/other-versions.zip > > ... and the demod on that would be USB. Of course the bandwidth & > centering of the audio output is critical for this scheme; what works well > for me is to output the audio (I use HDSDR into VB Audio virtual cable) at > 4 KHz with the signal centered on the 2000 Hz mark. If you match that 2000 > Hz center on the 1k2 BPSK software modem screen, it decodes very nicely. Hi all, As Scott said, the complete description for PicSat's mode is 1k2 BPSK AX.25 with G3RUH scrambler. UZ7HO's soundmodem should works nicely with this, but for the adventurous, there is also a GNU Radio based decoder in gr-satellites. For this, the signal should be centered at the 1500 Hz mark (though you can change this setting). The integrated telemetry decoder is underway (at least some form of it). I've yet to optimize the gr-satellites decoder, but I've noted that PicSat's signal almost fills a typical 2700Hz bandwidth (it's nominally 2400Hz wide), so no wonder that tuning is critical. Perhaps I'll do another decoder that works on "wide SSB" (up to 24kHz width, with the signal on the 12kHz mark), as is typically used for the wider 9k6 BPSK modes. Using the "FLL Band edge" in GNU Radio, it should be possible to correct automatically around 500Hz of mistuning. Also, there is a decoder from the PicSat team that runs on Windows and Linux. I haven't downloaded it, and I'm not even sure if it has been released in public (other than in its Github repo), but I've heard that it even searches for the signal (like the FUNcube dashboard or FOXtelem) so you don't even have to worry about tuning. 73, Dani. From petew2jv at verizon.net Wed Jan 17 23:20:26 2018 From: petew2jv at verizon.net (W2JV) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:20:26 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 Message-ID: <576818C46F864F948431DC6158602BA8@DESKTOP8A7S6MK> Hello, I?m considering purchasing a Kantronics KPC- 9612 to use for Falconsat-3, is anyone using this unit for FS3 and is it plug-play? If anyone has used this unit in the past on older satellites with WISP I would also be interested in your comments, thank you. 73 Peter, W2JV --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From n0jy at amsat.org Thu Jan 18 06:53:29 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 00:53:29 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results In-Reply-To: References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> Message-ID: On 1/17/2018 09:37, Julian Horn via AMSAT-BB wrote: > And will it be active over the UK at any point? > Very exciting to see and congrats on the pics - they look excellent! > Would love to demo reception of these at events :) > A huge well done to everyone concerned. > Julian M0NUX Hi Julian, Thank you for the accolades! Sadly, the orbit for AO-92 does not offer the chance for images over the U.K. We are bound by the NOAA imaging license to control the imager only from U.S. AMSAT Command Stations, so descending passes here have already come from your side and ascending passes are headed for China and Japan.? While the 40 minute timer does allow us to activate Data Mode (the camera experiment) on an ascending pass at night here and capture images over China and Japan in the daylight, that won't work for any passes to/over Europe. Jerry Buxton, N?JY From povern at yahoo.com Thu Jan 18 10:56:44 2018 From: povern at yahoo.com (Paul Overn) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Falconsat-3 and APRS In-Reply-To: References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> Message-ID: <954553178.205463.1516273004689@mail.yahoo.com> Hello,?New to satellites, and really new to the BB, so please forgive me for the simple questions. Little background. New Tech from Northern MN, since there is no traffic on the repeaters in my area, I started talking on the FM sats, and having a ton of fun. I currently have maybe 40 QSOs. I have started to work with APRS on the repeaters,and have had exactly one conversation, and that was with my Elmer. So I know I can at least do that.? I will be traveling to CA for work this coming weekend,and I hope to do a QSO on Falconsat-3 at some point. I will be using a D72a, with an arrow antenna. K0FFY has been helping me with how to set up the radio for a Falconsat-3 QSO,but I'm not sure I have everything I need. He has given me the freqs, a link to a setup document:?https://andrewbnortham.com/ke8fzt/falconsat/? and how a APRS Satellite QSO goes. What other advice can you guys give me so I can be successful?? Paul Overn `?.??.???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.. ><((((?> From: Jerry Buxton To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results On 1/17/2018 09:37, Julian Horn via AMSAT-BB wrote: > And will it be active over the UK at any point? > Very exciting to see and congrats on the pics - they look excellent! > Would love to demo reception of these at events :) > A huge well done to everyone concerned. >? Julian M0NUX Hi Julian, Thank you for the accolades! Sadly, the orbit for AO-92 does not offer the chance for images over the U.K. We are bound by the NOAA imaging license to control the imager only from U.S. AMSAT Command Stations, so descending passes here have already come from your side and ascending passes are headed for China and Japan.? While the 40 minute timer does allow us to activate Data Mode (the camera experiment) on an ascending pass at night here and capture images over China and Japan in the daylight, that won't work for any passes to/over Europe. Jerry Buxton, N?JY _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From Mvivona at yahoo.com Thu Jan 18 11:47:10 2018 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:47:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] iCom-910h for sale Message-ID: <275DA665-8ADA-4070-A410-62B3DEA030B0@yahoo.com> In case anyone is interested, I put my iCom-910h up on eBay. It's a super clean one. I just haven't been active on the birds, so it made better sense to let someone else put this radio to better use than I. Michael KC4ZVA From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Thu Jan 18 09:21:22 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:21:22 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna coverage In-Reply-To: References: <82E3BF4D-3C49-458A-B7F1-D268A7019A3B@thejohnsonsonline.net> Message-ID: Hi, I am playing with a new feature that will be included into the FUNcube warehouse that is under development: Capturing the sub-sat point for each packet received so that I can get a rough picture of the coverage (this is from my turnstile without preamp). The site I'm using for ideas is: https://www.darrinward.com/lat-long I can get all your FUNcube sub-sat points from the database if you should be interested. I have a written a web service that will get the realtime position, which emits JSON: E.g.: http://satpredict.badgersoft.com/satellite/position/39444?latitude=52.4670&longitude=-2.022&altitude=200 {"latitude":"1.26","longitude":"158.76","altitude":"618.60","azimuth":"23.28","elevation":"-60.43","range":"11805.61","rangeRate":"-3.38"} - Dave, G4DPZ From cchunter3 at mindspring.com Thu Jan 18 13:52:51 2018 From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (cchunter3 at mindspring.com) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 05:52:51 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] falconsat3 - WISP SETTINGS Message-ID: <822710309.1672.1516283571491@wamui-kristoff.atl.sa.earthlink.net> help from WISP users. after about a week of normal operation on Falconsat 3, I started only seeing from Falconsat: one line of C0,C1,ETC CODE lines followed by the BRC data, then five lines of PHT data, then repeating. I suspect some WISP settings have changed. can someone point me in the right direction? thank you. Christy KB6LTY From kb2mjeff at att.net Thu Jan 18 15:06:57 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:06:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 In-Reply-To: <576818C46F864F948431DC6158602BA8@DESKTOP8A7S6MK> References: <576818C46F864F948431DC6158602BA8@DESKTOP8A7S6MK> Message-ID: Hi Peter. I had to check this to make sure my memory was correct. It looks like the 9612 can't do 9600 baud on both ports. https://www.kantronics.com/products/kpc9612.html So, to help with anyone looking for a TNC to do this via hardware I will start a list here. I'm running my trusty old AEA DSP 2232. I also have an old Symec TNC3S 9600/38400 that appears to be able to be modded to work at 9600/9600. I emailed a contact listed on Symec's web site for instructions on how to do so and never got a reply. If anyone want's to mess with the Symec, make me an offer. Some of the guys accessing the PACSAT are doing it with software modems, maybe one of you guys can help Peter out... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: W2JV Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 6:20 PM To: AMSAT Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 Hello, I?m considering purchasing a Kantronics KPC- 9612 to use for Falconsat-3, is anyone using this unit for FS3 and is it plug-play? If anyone has used this unit in the past on older satellites with WISP I would also be interested in your comments, thank you. 73 Peter, W2JV --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Thu Jan 18 15:09:59 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:09:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 In-Reply-To: References: <576818C46F864F948431DC6158602BA8@DESKTOP8A7S6MK> Message-ID: <43190A15-F5C8-43FF-8333-99550D6B3EAC@mindspring.com> I used the 9612 on AO-51. It should be fine for Falconsat-3. 73, Drew KO4MA > On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:06 AM, wrote: > > Hi Peter. I had to check this to make sure my memory was correct. It looks like the 9612 can't do 9600 baud on both ports. > > https://www.kantronics.com/products/kpc9612.html > > So, to help with anyone looking for a TNC to do this via hardware I will start a list here. I'm running my trusty old AEA DSP 2232. I also have an old Symec TNC3S 9600/38400 that appears to be able to be modded to work at 9600/9600. I emailed a contact listed on Symec's web site for instructions on how to do so and never got a reply. If anyone want's to mess with the Symec, make me an offer. Some of the guys accessing the PACSAT are doing it with software modems, maybe one of you guys can help Peter out... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- From: W2JV > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 6:20 PM > To: AMSAT > Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 > > Hello, > > I?m considering purchasing a Kantronics KPC- 9612 to use for Falconsat-3, is anyone using this unit for FS3 and is it plug-play? If anyone has used this unit in the past on older satellites with WISP I would also be interested in your comments, thank you. > > 73 > > Peter, W2JV > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at coloradosatellite.com Thu Jan 18 15:12:24 2018 From: jim at coloradosatellite.com (Jim White) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 08:12:24 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 In-Reply-To: <43190A15-F5C8-43FF-8333-99550D6B3EAC@mindspring.com> References: <576818C46F864F948431DC6158602BA8@DESKTOP8A7S6MK> <43190A15-F5C8-43FF-8333-99550D6B3EAC@mindspring.com> Message-ID: The KPC 9612 works great for FS3.? You only need one port.? If using two radios build a cable from that port to both radios. Jim On 1/18/2018 8:09 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > I used the 9612 on AO-51. It should be fine for Falconsat-3. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > >> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:06 AM, wrote: >> >> Hi Peter. I had to check this to make sure my memory was correct. It looks like the 9612 can't do 9600 baud on both ports. >> >> https://www.kantronics.com/products/kpc9612.html >> >> So, to help with anyone looking for a TNC to do this via hardware I will start a list here. I'm running my trusty old AEA DSP 2232. I also have an old Symec TNC3S 9600/38400 that appears to be able to be modded to work at 9600/9600. I emailed a contact listed on Symec's web site for instructions on how to do so and never got a reply. If anyone want's to mess with the Symec, make me an offer. Some of the guys accessing the PACSAT are doing it with software modems, maybe one of you guys can help Peter out... >> >> 73 Jeff kb2m >> >> -----Original Message----- From: W2JV >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 6:20 PM >> To: AMSAT >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 >> >> Hello, >> >> I?m considering purchasing a Kantronics KPC- 9612 to use for Falconsat-3, is anyone using this unit for FS3 and is it plug-play? If anyone has used this unit in the past on older satellites with WISP I would also be interested in your comments, thank you. >> >> 73 >> >> Peter, W2JV >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb2mjeff at att.net Thu Jan 18 15:20:12 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:20:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 In-Reply-To: <43190A15-F5C8-43FF-8333-99550D6B3EAC@mindspring.com> References: <576818C46F864F948431DC6158602BA8@DESKTOP8A7S6MK> <43190A15-F5C8-43FF-8333-99550D6B3EAC@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <2CAF9B920F8245EF97B5AEBA009F54ED@kb2m4PC> Hmmm. That being said I wonder if my KAM XL will also work... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Glasbrenner Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:09 AM To: kb2mjeff at att.net Cc: W2JV ; AMSAT Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 I used the 9612 on AO-51. It should be fine for Falconsat-3. 73, Drew KO4MA > On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:06 AM, wrote: > > Hi Peter. I had to check this to make sure my memory was correct. It looks > like the 9612 can't do 9600 baud on both ports. > > https://www.kantronics.com/products/kpc9612.html > > So, to help with anyone looking for a TNC to do this via hardware I will > start a list here. I'm running my trusty old AEA DSP 2232. I also have an > old Symec TNC3S 9600/38400 that appears to be able to be modded to work > at 9600/9600. I emailed a contact listed on Symec's web site for > instructions on how to do so and never got a reply. If anyone want's to > mess with the Symec, make me an offer. Some of the guys accessing the > PACSAT are doing it with software modems, maybe one of you guys can help > Peter out... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- From: W2JV > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 6:20 PM > To: AMSAT > Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 > > Hello, > > I?m considering purchasing a Kantronics KPC- 9612 to use for Falconsat-3, > is anyone using this unit for FS3 and is it plug-play? If anyone has > used this unit in the past on older satellites with WISP I would also be > interested in your comments, thank you. > > 73 > > Peter, W2JV --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com From g0kla at arrl.net Thu Jan 18 16:57:07 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:57:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 In-Reply-To: <2CAF9B920F8245EF97B5AEBA009F54ED@kb2m4PC> References: <576818C46F864F948431DC6158602BA8@DESKTOP8A7S6MK> <43190A15-F5C8-43FF-8333-99550D6B3EAC@mindspring.com> <2CAF9B920F8245EF97B5AEBA009F54ED@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: I'm using the DRSI DPK-9600. Works great. 73 Chris On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:20 AM, wrote: > Hmmm. That being said I wonder if my KAM XL will also work... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Glasbrenner > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:09 AM > To: kb2mjeff at att.net > Cc: W2JV ; AMSAT > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 > > > I used the 9612 on AO-51. It should be fine for Falconsat-3. > > 73, Drew KO4MA > > On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:06 AM, wrote: >> >> Hi Peter. I had to check this to make sure my memory was correct. It >> looks like the 9612 can't do 9600 baud on both ports. >> >> https://www.kantronics.com/products/kpc9612.html >> >> So, to help with anyone looking for a TNC to do this via hardware I will >> start a list here. I'm running my trusty old AEA DSP 2232. I also have an >> old Symec TNC3S 9600/38400 that appears to be able to be modded to work >> at 9600/9600. I emailed a contact listed on Symec's web site for >> instructions on how to do so and never got a reply. If anyone want's to >> mess with the Symec, make me an offer. Some of the guys accessing the >> PACSAT are doing it with software modems, maybe one of you guys can help >> Peter out... >> >> 73 Jeff kb2m >> >> -----Original Message----- From: W2JV >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 6:20 PM >> To: AMSAT >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Kantronics KPC-9612 >> >> Hello, >> >> I?m considering purchasing a Kantronics KPC- 9612 to use for Falconsat-3, >> is anyone using this unit for FS3 and is it plug-play? If anyone has used >> this unit in the past on older satellites with WISP I would also be >> interested in your comments, thank you. >> >> 73 >> >> Peter, W2JV >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From g0kla at arrl.net Thu Jan 18 17:03:42 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:03:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] falconsat3 - WISP SETTINGS In-Reply-To: <822710309.1672.1516283571491@wamui-kristoff.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <822710309.1672.1516283571491@wamui-kristoff.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: That does not sound normal... I am not seeing that, so I don't think anything changed on the server. Is it still updating the directory? Or is it full of holes? There are much more experienced PacSat users than me who may be able to advise. On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:52 AM, wrote: > help from WISP users. > after about a week of normal operation on Falconsat 3, I started only > seeing from Falconsat: > one line of C0,C1,ETC CODE lines followed by the BRC data, then five > lines of PHT data, then repeating. > I suspect some WISP settings have changed. > can someone point me in the right direction? > thank you. > Christy KB6LTY > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From marklhammond at gmail.com Thu Jan 18 21:38:12 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:38:12 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] falconsat3 - WISP SETTINGS In-Reply-To: <822710309.1672.1516283571491@wamui-kristoff.atl.sa.earthli nk.net> References: <822710309.1672.1516283571491@wamui-kristoff.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hello Christy, Wish I could help, but nothing comes to mind. Are you using software to decode? Or a TNC? I can't tell for sure where you are seeing the text you reference. Mark N8MH At 05:52 AM 1/18/2018 -0800, cchunter3 at mindspring.com wrote: >help from WISP users. >after about a week of normal operation on Falconsat 3, I started only seeing from Falconsat: >one line of C0,C1,ETC CODE lines followed by the BRC data, then five lines of PHT data, then repeating. >I suspect some WISP settings have changed. >can someone point me in the right direction? >thank you. >Christy KB6LTY >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From chilesp at verizon.net Thu Jan 18 21:34:24 2018 From: chilesp at verizon.net (chilesp at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:34:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps Message-ID: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> What brand of mast mounted pre-amps are you using and do they sense RF for switching out of the feed line? From Mvivona at yahoo.com Fri Jan 19 00:12:01 2018 From: Mvivona at yahoo.com (Mvivona) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:12:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps In-Reply-To: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> References: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <30497AF7-5A51-4301-AC77-575B5523DCD6@yahoo.com> I use the SSB, and yes they RF switch, are coax fed, will handle high power and have bandpass filters. Quality stuff. http://www.ssbusa.com/gaasfet.html Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad On Jan 18, 2018, at 4:34 PM, wrote: What brand of mast mounted pre-amps are you using and do they sense RF for switching out of the feed line? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kq6ea at verizon.net Thu Jan 18 22:57:03 2018 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 22:57:03 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps In-Reply-To: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> References: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <2e57de8b-0271-4461-256e-f2e6f4520f8d@verizon.net> I'm using SSB Electronic preamps, and yes, they do RF sensing/switching. I run separate DC power to mine because someday I might want to use a sequencer, but you can also power them up the coax. 73, Jim? KQ6EA/0 On 1/18/2018 21:34, chilesp at verizon.net wrote: > What brand of mast mounted pre-amps are you using and do they sense RF for > switching out of the feed line? > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ns3l at yahoo.com Thu Jan 18 23:01:50 2018 From: ns3l at yahoo.com (Steve Nordahl) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 23:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps References: <1523025586.896030.1516316510334.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1523025586.896030.1516316510334@mail.yahoo.com> In my case I use the following for 144mhz & 432mhz, but because I run higher than 25 watts, I have the 160 watt units. 25 watt units are available. I use a Advanced Receiver Research mast mounted preamps at my station. 144mhz MSP144VDG-160432mhz MSP432VDG-160 Both units can be powered over coax if you order them with the optional bias choke. They are both capable of handling 160 watts and switch when they see arriving tx power. They make 25 watt units, also: msp-25 amateur | | | | | | | | | | | msp-25 amateur | | | | MSP28VDG-160 amateur | | | | | | | | | | | MSP28VDG-160 amateur | | | | On 1,296 (23cm) I am now using a SHF MVV-1296 SP23 23cm Masthead Preamplifier which does the same as the ARR units above and comes standard with the ability to go power over coax. It can handle 100 watts. https://www.thedxshop.com/sp23-23cm-masthead-preamplifier.html Steve NS3L From n8hm at arrl.net Fri Jan 19 01:27:54 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 20:27:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jerry Buxton, N0JY, on Ham Talk Live TONIGHT @ 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC Message-ID: Just a reminder that AMSAT Vice President - Engineering Jerry Buxton, N0JY, will be on Ham Talk Live in just over a half hour at 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC. Stream live here: https://www.spreaker.com/show/ham-talk-live 73, Paul, N8HM From jcwerth1 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 19 01:58:03 2018 From: jcwerth1 at yahoo.com (Joe Werth) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:58:03 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps In-Reply-To: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> References: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: I use SHF-Electronik Mini-2 for VHF. RF switched up to 150 watts SSB (50 watts FM). Powered either coaxial or externally. Will purchase the 70 cm model this Summer. Joe KE9AJ Sent from my iPad > On Jan 18, 2018, at 3:34 PM, wrote: > > What brand of mast mounted pre-amps are you using and do they sense RF for > switching out of the feed line? > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk5do at arrl.net Fri Jan 19 02:07:48 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 20:07:48 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jan 19 last day for pictures Message-ID: Tomorrow, Jan 19, is the last day to submit pictures to use on our new AMSAT Rover award. If you have a generic picture that does not identify a person or call, send it my way. We will put them up on the AMSAT web page and see which are the one's you choose for the certificate. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From eric.n.skoog at gmail.com Fri Jan 19 02:28:30 2018 From: eric.n.skoog at gmail.com (Eric Skoog) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 21:28:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jerry Buxton, N0JY, on Ham Talk Live TONIGHT @ 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WOO HOO......................video did NOT kill the radio star after all......... eric (K1TVV) AMSAT System Engineering On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Just a reminder that AMSAT Vice President - Engineering Jerry Buxton, > N0JY, will be on Ham Talk Live in just over a half hour at 9:00 PM EST > / 02:00 UTC. > > Stream live here: https://www.spreaker.com/show/ham-talk-live > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri Jan 19 07:04:36 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 01:04:36 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jerry Buxton, N0JY, on Ham Talk Live TONIGHT @ 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601d390f3$c4174b70$4c45e250$@gmail.com> No question, Jerry did a great job. It helps that he has the perfect face for radio. :) 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- wrote: < <> Just a reminder that AMSAT Vice President - Engineering Jerry Buxton, <> N0JY, will be on Ham Talk Live in just over a half hour at 9:00 PM EST <> / 02:00 UTC. <> <> Stream live here: https://www.spreaker.com/show/ham-talk-live <> <> 73, <> <> Paul, N8HM <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <> AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> <_______________________________________________ References: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <021401d3910b$4ee73780$ecb5a680$@amber.org.uk> I'm going to throw something controversial into the mix here: RF sensing is NEVER a good idea! I'm running a DG-8 for 2m and a Mutek SLNA for 70cm, both fed with DC up the coax (the Mutek has been modded to do internal biasing), and my rig switches the DC off before it transmits, which avoids the risk of the preamp being inline when you send DC the wrong way up it. You'll find with most preamps that do RF sensing, their RF Sense max transmit power is significantly lower than their DC switched rating, and this is mostly because switching your relays 'hot' is a really bad idea. Much better to kill the DC, which switches the relays cold, before you send that RF up the coax and into the circuitry instead of the bypass line. Depending on the rig you are using, some have built in DC sending up the coax. Any rig that works like that will 'sequence' its transmit stage; it will switch off the DC output feed before switching in the RF power amplifier. If you're using external bias tees to send DC up the coax, I can thoroughly recommend the PTT-switched kits designed by M1GEO, which will have a similar effect - the PTT line from your rig will switch out the bias tee via its PTT input before it actually starts transmitting. Again, this is sequenced inside most rigs in order to prevent hot-switching of the relays. As an aside, if you're planning to leave them at the top of the mast permanently, and not power them from your rig, then I would strongly recommend a solution that kills the DC when you're out of the shack. We had a remote station set up that someone left the bias tee connected permanently for, leaving the preamp constantly in-line for RX only purposes. It got hit by lightning during a big lightning storm that hit every tower and building in the area, and because there was power to the system, rather than the lightning just running down the bypass line, it fried a few components in the preamp. It's a miracle that's all that it fried! 73, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of chilesp at verizon.net Sent: 18 January 2018 21:34 To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps What brand of mast mounted pre-amps are you using and do they sense RF for switching out of the feed line? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From burns at fisher.cc Fri Jan 19 12:49:01 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 07:49:01 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps In-Reply-To: <021401d3910b$4ee73780$ecb5a680$@amber.org.uk> References: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> <021401d3910b$4ee73780$ecb5a680$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: Good point, John. Especially given that I use my preamps mainly for satellites, I usually use one antenna for Rx and one for Tx with an SPDT, center-off switch to power one , the other, or neither depending on the satellite. So the RF switch is there more in case I screw up than for anything else. For the local repeater (all on the same band, of course), I can turn the preamp off entirely. 73, Burns WB1FJ On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:53 AM, John wrote: > I'm going to throw something controversial into the mix here: RF sensing is > NEVER a good idea! > > I'm running a DG-8 for 2m and a Mutek SLNA for 70cm, both fed with DC up > the > coax (the Mutek has been modded to do internal biasing), and my rig > switches > the DC off before it transmits, which avoids the risk of the preamp being > inline when you send DC the wrong way up it. > > You'll find with most preamps that do RF sensing, their RF Sense max > transmit power is significantly lower than their DC switched rating, and > this is mostly because switching your relays 'hot' is a really bad idea. > Much better to kill the DC, which switches the relays cold, before you send > that RF up the coax and into the circuitry instead of the bypass line. > > Depending on the rig you are using, some have built in DC sending up the > coax. Any rig that works like that will 'sequence' its transmit stage; it > will switch off the DC output feed before switching in the RF power > amplifier. If you're using external bias tees to send DC up the coax, I can > thoroughly recommend the PTT-switched kits designed by M1GEO, which will > have a similar effect - the PTT line from your rig will switch out the bias > tee via its PTT input before it actually starts transmitting. Again, this > is > sequenced inside most rigs in order to prevent hot-switching of the relays. > > As an aside, if you're planning to leave them at the top of the mast > permanently, and not power them from your rig, then I would strongly > recommend a solution that kills the DC when you're out of the shack. We had > a remote station set up that someone left the bias tee connected > permanently > for, leaving the preamp constantly in-line for RX only purposes. It got hit > by lightning during a big lightning storm that hit every tower and building > in the area, and because there was power to the system, rather than the > lightning just running down the bypass line, it fried a few components in > the preamp. It's a miracle that's all that it fried! > > 73, > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of > chilesp at verizon.net > Sent: 18 January 2018 21:34 > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps > > What brand of mast mounted pre-amps are you using and do they sense RF for > switching out of the feed line? > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jmtrewitt at gmail.com Fri Jan 19 13:47:16 2018 From: jmtrewitt at gmail.com (Jordan Trewitt) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:47:16 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps In-Reply-To: References: <00f101d390a4$1e526930$5af73b90$@verizon.net> <021401d3910b$4ee73780$ecb5a680$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: If you really wanted to do it right, you could always make your own with WA5VJB's MMIC boards. I've used a Qorvo SPF5043Z on them successfully several times, so the BOM for one is around $5. You'd still have to figure out sequencers, sensing, switching and what not if you wanted to. -Jordan KF5COQ On Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 6:49 AM Burns Fisher wrote: > Good point, John. Especially given that I use my preamps mainly for > satellites, I usually use one antenna for Rx and one for Tx with an SPDT, > center-off switch to power one , the other, or neither depending on the > satellite. So the RF switch is there more in case I screw up than for > anything else. > > For the local repeater (all on the same band, of course), I can turn the > preamp off entirely. > > 73, > Burns WB1FJ > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:53 AM, John wrote: > > > I'm going to throw something controversial into the mix here: RF sensing > is > > NEVER a good idea! > > > > I'm running a DG-8 for 2m and a Mutek SLNA for 70cm, both fed with DC up > > the > > coax (the Mutek has been modded to do internal biasing), and my rig > > switches > > the DC off before it transmits, which avoids the risk of the preamp being > > inline when you send DC the wrong way up it. > > > > You'll find with most preamps that do RF sensing, their RF Sense max > > transmit power is significantly lower than their DC switched rating, and > > this is mostly because switching your relays 'hot' is a really bad idea. > > Much better to kill the DC, which switches the relays cold, before you > send > > that RF up the coax and into the circuitry instead of the bypass line. > > > > Depending on the rig you are using, some have built in DC sending up the > > coax. Any rig that works like that will 'sequence' its transmit stage; it > > will switch off the DC output feed before switching in the RF power > > amplifier. If you're using external bias tees to send DC up the coax, I > can > > thoroughly recommend the PTT-switched kits designed by M1GEO, which will > > have a similar effect - the PTT line from your rig will switch out the > bias > > tee via its PTT input before it actually starts transmitting. Again, this > > is > > sequenced inside most rigs in order to prevent hot-switching of the > relays. > > > > As an aside, if you're planning to leave them at the top of the mast > > permanently, and not power them from your rig, then I would strongly > > recommend a solution that kills the DC when you're out of the shack. We > had > > a remote station set up that someone left the bias tee connected > > permanently > > for, leaving the preamp constantly in-line for RX only purposes. It got > hit > > by lightning during a big lightning storm that hit every tower and > building > > in the area, and because there was power to the system, rather than the > > lightning just running down the bypass line, it fried a few components in > > the preamp. It's a miracle that's all that it fried! > > > > 73, > > John (XLX) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of > > chilesp at verizon.net > > Sent: 18 January 2018 21:34 > > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps > > > > What brand of mast mounted pre-amps are you using and do they sense RF > for > > switching out of the feed line? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > > all > > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From f6htj at aol.com Fri Jan 19 18:23:11 2018 From: f6htj at aol.com (f6htj at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:23:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] About PICSAT 435.525 MHz Message-ID: <1610fa907dc-c0b-110d@webjasstg-vab55.srv.aolmail.net> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BadAt92qHdU 73 de Michel F6HTJ http://www.r-e-f.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=700&Itemid=435 From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 01:31:51 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 01:31:51 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 Message-ID: Launch is currently on hold due to weather conditions. Go Electron! Go Rocket Lab! 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 01:43:31 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 01:43:31 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rocket Lab's Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/rocketlab 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From AJ9N at aol.com Sat Jan 20 01:47:05 2018 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 20:47:05 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-20 01:00 UTC Message-ID: <704258.4999eab.4793f999@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-20 01:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Prva srednja informati?ka ?kola, Zagreb, Croatia, telebridge via VK6MJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA Contact was successful: Thu 2018-01-18 08:46:52 UTC 34 deg (***) Naka Junior High School, Kakamigahara City, Japan, direct via 8J25D The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-01-22 10:23:21 UTC 53 deg The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-24 10:35:45 UTC 56 deg **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 127 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-01-20 01:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1202. (***) Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1151. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-20 01:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From wandtosborne at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 01:52:42 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:52:42 +1300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Launch now targeted for 15:36 at the earliest. "Currently targeting #StillTesting lift off no earlier than 15:36 NZDT (18:36 PT / 21:36 ET / 2.36 UTC), while we wait for ideal weather conditions." 73, Terry ZL2BAC -----Original Message----- From: B J Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:43 PM To: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 Rocket Lab's Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/rocketlab 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wandtosborne at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 02:55:02 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:55:02 +1300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Live Launch broadcast just started. 73, Terry ZL2BAC -----Original Message----- From: B J Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:43 PM To: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 Rocket Lab's Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/rocketlab 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 03:21:17 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 03:21:17 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The first launch attempt was stopped at just under T - 1 due to a boat entering the safety area. Another attempt will be made shortly. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From wandtosborne at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 03:40:48 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:40:48 +1300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D37F8F8C9AA4BDE81EAA4D3F9DA5C1C@OsbornesPC> Launch delayed for 40 minutes due to orbital Traffic. Boat should be out of the area by then. -----Original Message----- From: B J Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:21 PM To: Wendy and Terry Osborne Cc: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 The first launch attempt was stopped at just under T - 1 due to a boat entering the safety area. Another attempt will be made shortly. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From w1pa at hotmail.com Fri Jan 19 16:07:31 2018 From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill Acito) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:07:31 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps Message-ID: What's the opinion/consensus of the older ICOM AG series, as an economical alternative? Can they be updated, with say, a different MMIC? Bill W1PA From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 04:20:04 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 04:20:04 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 In-Reply-To: <1D37F8F8C9AA4BDE81EAA4D3F9DA5C1C@OsbornesPC> References: <1D37F8F8C9AA4BDE81EAA4D3F9DA5C1C@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: On 1/20/18, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote: > Launch delayed for 40 minutes due to orbital Traffic. > Boat should be out of the area by then. Launch is on hold at T - 12 minutes right now. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From n0jy at amsat.org Sat Jan 20 04:41:46 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 22:41:46 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jerry Buxton, N0JY, on Ham Talk Live TONIGHT @ 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <000601d390f3$c4174b70$4c45e250$@gmail.com> References: <000601d390f3$c4174b70$4c45e250$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you, Alan!? I could have had a stellar career in entertainment, if I only had the perfect voice for television, too... Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/19/2018 01:04, Alan wrote: > No question, Jerry did a great job. It helps that he has the perfect face > for radio. :) > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA From va6bmj at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 04:58:24 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 04:58:24 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-20 In-Reply-To: References: <1D37F8F8C9AA4BDE81EAA4D3F9DA5C1C@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: Launch has been scrubbed for today. Another attempt is planned for tomorrow. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From pa3weg at amsat.org Sat Jan 20 07:15:02 2018 From: pa3weg at amsat.org (wouter weggelaar) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 08:15:02 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 / AO-73 mode switching Message-ID: Hi All, AO-73 is now in continuous amateur mode for the weekend. The transponder is on with low power telemetry also active. Early next month AO-73 will be entering a period of some weeks of continuous sunlight. We are planning then to have a new operating schedule as below: Sunday pm through to Thursday am or pm - Continuous educational mode with full power telemetry. Thursday through to Sunday pm - Continuous amateur mode with the transponder on, and with low power telemetry also active. These plans will be reviewed with experience so may change! Keep having FUN in space. 73 Wouter PA3WEG From hamsat at xs4all.nl Sat Jan 20 13:27:40 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:27:40 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] TianYi 2 identified and TianYi 6 almost identified Message-ID: <6ef84b38-af8d-9429-3036-2f1c5b73f190@xs4all.nl> All, Detailed doppler measurements show that TianYi 2 (TY 2) is object 43155, 2018-008A. TY 2 is a payload in the satellite XiaoXiang 2 (XX 2). Downlink: 435.350 MHz. Detailed doppler measurements show that TianYi 6 (TY 6) is either object 43157, 2018-008C, or 43158, 2018-008D. TY 6 is a payload in the satellite QuanTuTong 1 (QTT 1). Downlink: 436.100 MHz. Currently the separation between objects 43157 and 43158 is less than 1 second. 73, Nico PA0DLO From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Sat Jan 20 15:56:34 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 10:56:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Naka Junior High School, Kakamigahara City, Japan Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Naka Junior High School, Kakamigahara City, Japan on 22 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 10:23 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and 8J25D. The contact should be audible over Japan and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Naka junior high school was established at 1947. The location of Kagamigahara is the central Japan. Our school has 615 students and 37 teachers now. Kakamigahara city has the Kakamigahara Aerospace Science Museum and JASDF Gifu Air Base. Kimiya Yui is a former member of that base. Age of contact member is 13-15. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What did you think when you saw the Earth from the space first time? 2. Do plants grow at the same speed as if it is on the Earth? 3. Is there any difference of how you feel the taste? 4. Did your physiological clock change? If yes how did it change? 5. Is there any difference of how sun looks? Is it brighter or bigger? 6. Does smoke go up as if it does on the Earth? 7. What was the first change that occurred to your body? 8. What did you think when you reached to the ISS? 9. Have you been moved by any view of space? If yes, what was it like? 10. Is it Comfortable to live in the ISS? 11. Are there ceilings in the ISS even it is under weightless condition? 12. What is your favorite job/activity in the ISS? 13. When did you decided to go to the space? How old were you? 14. Do you often see sun eclipses? 15. Can you see any cultural artifact on the Earth? 16. Can you hear sounds such as Solar wind when you are working out side of the space ship? 17. What was the thing that you most enjoyed in the weightless condition? 18. Do you have day and night in the ISS? What is the difference of temperature between daytime and night time? 19. Is solubility different from the Earth surface? 20. What is the shape of flame of candle in the space? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-24 10:35 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Sat Jan 20 16:22:32 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] TianYi 2 identified and TianYi 6 almost identified In-Reply-To: <6ef84b38-af8d-9429-3036-2f1c5b73f190@xs4all.nl> References: <6ef84b38-af8d-9429-3036-2f1c5b73f190@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <475054464.1692839.1516465352916@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Please share for "HA-1"?http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=589?73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: Nico Janssen To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Ray Hoad Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2018 6:59 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] TianYi 2 identified and TianYi 6 almost identified All, Detailed doppler measurements show that TianYi 2 (TY 2) is object 43155, 2018-008A. TY 2 is a payload in the satellite XiaoXiang 2 (XX 2). Downlink: 435.350 MHz. Detailed doppler measurements show that TianYi 6 (TY 6) is either object 43157, 2018-008C, or 43158, 2018-008D. TY 6 is a payload in the satellite QuanTuTong 1 (QTT 1). Downlink: 436.100 MHz. Currently the separation between objects 43157 and 43158 is less than 1 second. 73, Nico PA0DLO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w7lrd at comcast.net Sat Jan 20 18:01:52 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 10:01:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Jerry Buxton, N0JY, on Ham Talk Live TONIGHT @ 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <000601d390f3$c4174b70$4c45e250$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <189562319.503561.1516471312597@connect.xfinity.com> is there a utube or other location for this? 73 Bob W7LRD > On January 19, 2018 at 8:41 PM Jerry Buxton wrote: > > > Thank you, Alan! I could have had a stellar career in entertainment, if > I only had the perfect voice for television, too... > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 1/19/2018 01:04, Alan wrote: > > > > No question, Jerry did a great job. It helps that he has the perfect face > > for radio. :) > > > > 73, > > > > Alan > > WA4SCA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w7lrd at comcast.net Sat Jan 20 18:20:39 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 10:20:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler sqf Message-ID: <1878498468.503941.1516472440347@connect.xfinity.com> Do we have a single location for finding doppler sqf files? 73 Bob w7LRD From n8hm at amsat.org Sat Jan 20 18:39:15 2018 From: n8hm at amsat.org (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:39:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L-band Uplink Open Until 01:30 UTC 21-Jan-2018 Message-ID: The L-band uplink on AO-92 is temporarily open for experimental use until 01:30 UTC on 21-Jan-2018. The uplink frequency is 1267.350 MHz with a 67.0 Hz tone. If you use the L-band uplink, please send signal reports, observations, audio recordings, or videos in reply to this post or via email to n8hm at amsat.org. Please also include a detailed description of your L band transmit setup. Do not transmit on either uplink after 01:30 UTC. AMSAT appreciates your patience and cooperation as we move through the commissioning process. 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) From ok2gz at ok2gz.eu Sat Jan 20 19:07:21 2018 From: ok2gz at ok2gz.eu (Jarda) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:07:21 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] TLEdoctor program to check for preliminary TLE data Message-ID: The program can easily detect and fix the TLE preliminary data errors for working in satellite programs after launching the satellite in orbit The original version of the program released before launching Fox-1D works in Windows-7 and higher.? Version that works in Windows XP is now added.? The program name for Win-XP changes to TLEdoctor. Both programs can be downloaded at http://oscar.ok2gz.eu/fox1d.php 73 Jarda ok2gz --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Sat Jan 20 19:26:09 2018 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:26:09 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jerry Buxton, N0JY, on Ham Talk Live TONIGHT @ 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <189562319.503561.1516471312597@connect.xfinity.com> References: <000601d390f3$c4174b70$4c45e250$@gmail.com> <189562319.503561.1516471312597@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <25AB004A1CCF4A9DBD3F78A75F24266D@AA5PKPC> Bob You can listen to pass episodes here: https://www.spreaker.com/show/ham-talk-live -----Original Message----- From: Bob- W7LRD Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:01 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org ; Jerry Buxton Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Jerry Buxton, N0JY, on Ham Talk Live TONIGHT @ 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC is there a utube or other location for this? 73 Bob W7LRD > On January 19, 2018 at 8:41 PM Jerry Buxton wrote: > > > Thank you, Alan! I could have had a stellar career in entertainment, if > I only had the perfect voice for television, too... > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 1/19/2018 01:04, Alan wrote: > > > > No question, Jerry did a great job. It helps that he has the perfect face > > for radio. :) > > > > 73, > > > > Alan > > WA4SCA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mccardelm at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 19:45:20 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:45:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Jerry Buxton, N0JY, on Ham Talk Live TONIGHT @ 9:00 PM EST / 02:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <189562319.503561.1516471312597@connect.xfinity.com> References: <000601d390f3$c4174b70$4c45e250$@gmail.com> <189562319.503561.1516471312597@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: If you miss the show live, you can listen on demand 24/7/365.25 at: https://www.spreaker.com/show/ham-talk-live - select episode #98. or https://tinyurl.com/ANS021-HamTalkLive E. Michael McCardel, AA8EM, former KC8YLD Rotating Editor for AMSAT News Service, AMSAT-NA Have you donated to get your Fox-1 Challenge Coin Yet? http://www.amsat.org/?p=3275 On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > is there a utube or other location for this? > > 73 Bob W7LRD > >> On January 19, 2018 at 8:41 PM Jerry Buxton wrote: >> >> >> Thank you, Alan! I could have had a stellar career in entertainment, if >> I only had the perfect voice for television, too... >> >> Jerry Buxton, N?JY >> >> On 1/19/2018 01:04, Alan wrote: >> >> > > No question, Jerry did a great job. It helps that he has the perfect face >> > for radio. :) >> > >> > 73, >> > >> > Alan >> > WA4SCA >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jerry.tuyls at telenet.be Sat Jan 20 20:10:09 2018 From: jerry.tuyls at telenet.be (jerry.tuyls at telenet.be) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 21:10:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L-band Uplink Open Until 01:30 UTC 21-Jan-2018 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1456662951.139999377.1516479009692.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> First contact made on AO-92 with L-band uplink. RX sig was strong with 58-59 from the sat with max 29? EL. I didn't change my polarisation on the dwnlink but it looks and sounds FB during qso with SP8CGR. I am using MASPRO WHS-32N ant system, the 2m part, for RX and a homemade 2*19el crossyagi on 23cm with 5W RHCP fixed. I will try again the next pass this evening with another yagi( i have plenty) for the uplink. My main sat antennas are pc-controlled, but i had to correct the uplink antenne manually because it is not on the tower yet. TRX is Kenwood TS-790e for RX+TX. Good job for this sat, and finally another with L-band. 73's Jerry,ON4CJQ ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Paul Stoetzer" Aan: "amsat-bb" Verzonden: Zaterdag 20 januari 2018 19:39:15 Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L-band Uplink Open Until 01:30 UTC 21-Jan-2018 The L-band uplink on AO-92 is temporarily open for experimental use until 01:30 UTC on 21-Jan-2018. The uplink frequency is 1267.350 MHz with a 67.0 Hz tone. If you use the L-band uplink, please send signal reports, observations, audio recordings, or videos in reply to this post or via email to n8hm at amsat.org. Please also include a detailed description of your L band transmit setup. Do not transmit on either uplink after 01:30 UTC. AMSAT appreciates your patience and cooperation as we move through the commissioning process. 73, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From redski at bellsouth.net Sat Jan 20 21:45:29 2018 From: redski at bellsouth.net (redski at bellsouth.net) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:45:29 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] L band transmit setup Message-ID: <00cd01d39237$fe885340$fb98f9c0$@bellsouth.net> Can someone offer a little advice about the requirements for using the Fox L-band uplinks? I have an full duplex u/V and v/U satellite station so I'm guessing that my easiest route to L-band is an upconverter. But I've never used anything above UHF, so any thoughts on what might be needed to get started would be appreciated. 73, Red KC4LE From w9gb at icloud.com Sat Jan 20 22:28:19 2018 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:28:19 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps Message-ID: <7B21A845-3E66-483E-A7D4-55D6838F968E@icloud.com> Bill - The Icom AG-series of mast mounted pre-amplifiers for weak-signal and satellite work are now legacy (I believe Icom has discontinued recently). A lower noise figure of the active device (FET, MMIC) is important for satellite work (sky), than weak-signal work (noisy terrain/earth). High noise-levels with the AG-series are often attributed to a Failed FET or an improper FET replacement by an earlier owner. Newer FETs have ESD / static protection, while older designs ? DID NOT ! Nearby lightning strikes can damaged the FET on the AG-series pre-amps. Central States VHF Society annually performed Noise Figure tests on a variety of devices. This may be useful, as you examine modern devices or recent surplus. https://csvhfs.org/index.php/vhf-101/24-csvhfs-history/noise-figure-results The Icom mast-mounted pre-amplifiers (AG-25, AG-35) used the dual-gate Toshiba 3SK121 Dual Gare FET (discontinued). Schematics and manuals for the Icom AG-series are available via the Internet. http://www.radiomanual.info/schemi/ACC_preampl/Icom_AG-35_user_IW2HEU.pdf MODS.DK has the parts list and hand-drawn schematic for AG-35 (1999), the othe file AG-25 etc. Instructions has schematic for AG-25 (last page). Toshiba 3SK211 ? GaAs MES FET, Dual-Gate, UHF, 10V, Idss>20mA, Up<4V http://pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets/134/499109_DS.pdf Icom AG-series (brochure) https://www.icom.co.jp/world/support/download/manual/disp_down.php?SWT=&ID=20010101248&GNR=Options&TYPE=I&PDNM=IC-AG1/IC-AG25/IC-AG30/IC-AG35/IC-AG1200&INQWORDSWT=No&INQWORD= In 2012 and 2013, Earl Andrews, VE3AB (Netty Electronics) http://www.nettyelectronics.com/ did comparison testing of various Dual Gate FETs, used by Icom, Yeasu, and Kenwood since the late 1970s. http://www.earlandrews.com/dgshootout.html Earl also noted Eastern Asian counterfeit products (various FETs), largely from China. The Phillips/NXP BF981 being a common bad Chinese export (March 2014 & June 2015) http://www.earlandrews.com/dgmosbadagn1.html http://www.earlandrews.com/dgbadagn.html ? RF Parts ? Low Noise FETs https://www.rfparts.com/rftransistors/transistor-misc/transistor-misc-lownoise.html === As far as a MMIC swap, I have not seen anything posted (YouTube, Icom boards, amsat-bb reflector), BUT that does not mean it has not be attempted or accomplished. ? Beginning this month ? Corey Abercrombie, N4NGZ, acquired the exclusive rights to manufacture, sell and repair the existing DownEast Microwave, Inc. (DEMI) VHF/UHF Transverter product line and all past VHF/UHF transverter products. https://www.downeastmicrowave.com/ Q5 Signal, LLC 17704 County Road 455 Montverde, FL 34756 Sales: sales at q5signal.com Support: support at q5signal.com Corey may be a source for current production UHF/Microwave devices, now or in future. == Jay Rusgrove, W1VD owner of Advanced Receiver Research (ARR) has a number of excellent Gallium Arsenide low-noise preamplifiers (LNA?s). The ARR MSP144VDG-160 and MSP432VDG-160 models are often recommended for fixed satellite earth stations. High Performance, 160 Watt Mast Mounted, Amateur Radio Preamplifiers http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page10.html Greg, w9gb == From: Bill Acito What's the opinion/consensus of the older ICOM AG series, as an economical alternative? Can they be updated, with say, a different MMIC? Bill W1PA From wageners at gmail.com Sat Jan 20 23:51:12 2018 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 17:51:12 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] 23cm/1.2GHz 150W amplifier plus extras for sale - ready for satellite operation Message-ID: Please see my ad at QRZ.COM for detailed information and photos. Thanks, Stefan, VE4NSA From wandtosborne at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:30:32 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:30:32 +1300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch Message-ID: <353B18A2A8294A2491F74516BEAA9036@OsbornesPC> Hi Folks, Live streaming of today?s launch attempt has just started: https://www.rocketlabusa.com/live-stream/ Hope the boats stay out of the way today. 73, Terry ZL2BAC From va6bmj at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:33:48 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 01:33:48 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rocket Lab Launch Attempt 2018-01-21 Message-ID: The YouTube channel is now active with live video: https://twitter.com/rocketlab 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From va6bmj at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:45:52 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 01:45:52 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch In-Reply-To: <353B18A2A8294A2491F74516BEAA9036@OsbornesPC> References: <353B18A2A8294A2491F74516BEAA9036@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: We have liftoff! It's a smooth launch so far. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From anderson58625 at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:43:16 2018 From: anderson58625 at gmail.com (anderson58625) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 19:43:16 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is This a Connector? If so, what kind? Message-ID: <06f201d39259$357bb240$a07316c0$@gmail.com> Hello! Not being especially familiar with microwave equipment, I came across a type of connection which is currently a mystery to me. I know it is a connection, but I'm not sure if it is a connector. In seeing pictures of some microwave PA's, sometimes a fine pin or pins are on the chassis for voltage connection. But, is it a connector? If so, what kind? (with that I can Google my way to more information) I'm guessing the connection is special to ensure insulation and the integrity of chassis shielding(?), but I can't seem to find the mating female connector (if that pin is indeed a connector and not just a connection). I'm guessing the BB won't allow images inside a message, so there are some examples at https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/150-w-ssb-23cm-1-2ghz-amplifier-plu s-extras.596138/ (scroll down over half way). Not being even close to needing an amp-I just got my Arrow ant. but haven't even make a contact yet -I still must have interest or I wouldn't be daydreaming by looking at antennas, LNA's, transverters, and PA's online. Thank you! Mark W9AT From va6bmj at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:56:01 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 01:56:01 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch In-Reply-To: References: <353B18A2A8294A2491F74516BEAA9036@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: The payloads have been successfully deployed. Congratulations to Rocket Lab! 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From wageners at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:56:45 2018 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 19:56:45 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is This a Connector? If so, what kind? In-Reply-To: <06f201d39259$357bb240$a07316c0$@gmail.com> References: <06f201d39259$357bb240$a07316c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Mark, These are basic soldering pins. That's all. The RF connection is via N-connectors :-) Hope this helps, Stefan VE4NSA On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:43 PM, anderson58625 wrote: > Hello! > > > > Not being especially familiar with microwave equipment, I came across a > type > of connection which is currently a mystery to me. I know it is a > connection, but I'm not sure if it is a connector. > > > > In seeing pictures of some microwave PA's, sometimes a fine pin or pins are > on the chassis for voltage connection. But, is it a connector? If so, > what > kind? (with that I can Google my way to more information) > > > > I'm guessing the connection is special to ensure insulation and the > integrity of chassis shielding(?), but I can't seem to find the mating > female connector (if that pin is indeed a connector and not just a > connection). > > > > I'm guessing the BB won't allow images inside a message, so there are some > examples at > https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/150-w-ssb-23cm-1- > 2ghz-amplifier-plu > s-extras.596138/ (scroll down over half way). > > > > Not being even close to needing an amp-I just got my Arrow ant. but > haven't > even make a contact yet -I still must have interest or I wouldn't be > daydreaming by looking at antennas, LNA's, transverters, and PA's online. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Mark W9AT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:57:03 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:57:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-021 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-021 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Dr. Junior Torres de Castro, PY2BJO SK * AMSAT Membership Deal and Getting Started * Upcoming club satellite presentations (and hopefully demos...) * Zhou Enlai Student Satellite to Launch * AO-92 camera results * N8RO Logs 488th US Grid - Earns Grid Master Award #8 * Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 1-16-2018 * Fox-1 MPPT Developers Interviewed on HamRadio360 Podcast * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-021.01 ANS-021 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 021.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. January 21, 2017 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-021.01 Dr. Junior Torres de Castro, PY2BJO SK It is with great sadness that the Directors and Officers of AMSAT- North America announce the passing of Dr. Junior Torres de Castro, PY2BJO. According to his son, Allan Kardec, Junior passed away on January 17, 2018 in Sao Paulo, Brazil. A very active radio amateur, Junior was a great collaborator of LABRE (The League of Brazilian Amateur Radio Transmitters) serving for a time as its President. He was also a founder of BRAMSAT, the Brazilian AMSAT group as well as an active member of the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors during the early 1990s. But, perhaps what Junior will be best remembered for among the rest of the world's amateurs was his work with AMSAT-NA in helping to build (and financially underwrite) Brazil's very first amateur radio satellite. Called "DOVE short for "Digital Orbiting Voice Encoder", the satellite was successfully launched on January 22, 1990 on an Ariane 4 rocket from the European Space Agency's Kourou Space Center in French Guiana. Besides the main payload, that launch also included three other AMSAT MicroSats along with two larger UOSats. Surrey Satellite Technology in England built the two larger satellites. Junior's vision for his DOVE satellite was to provide a strong 2m, audio FM downlink signal ("This is DOVE in Space") that could be easily received by educational institutions around the world. Downlink telemetry was via 1200 Baud AFSK, AX.25 packet radio, a data format that was easily decoded with receivers and TNCs that were very popular among radio amateurs at the time. When told of Junior's passing, Jan King, W3GEY, a founding AMSAT Director and AMSAT's Vice President of Engineering during the MicroSat project said that, "I'm very sorry to hear about Junior. He certainly made the 4 MicroSat mission happen. He was a very important part of AMSAT and a fond memory for me." Likewise, Former AMSAT-NA BOD member Bob McGwier, N4HY, noted that, "This is a sad day. Junior was a great guy, full of life, and he loved AMSAT. It was a pleasure for me to help build his MicroSat for him. When I became an AMSAT employee for getting these spacecraft done, Junior paid the bills." Another MicroSat Project team member, Jim White, WD0E, noted that, "This is indeed sad news. It was a pleasure to work with him on DOVE. He was a very warm and generous person and not only conceived of and funded DOVE, but also a receiver for the 60-foot radio dish that the Table Mountain the Deep Space Exploration Society was refurbishing. He was always tinkering and building things at his house near Sao Paulo. He even dreamed of building a round swimming pool that, when drained, would double as a radio astronomy dish! During the time his DOVE satellite was sending "This is DOVE in space" audio from orbit we received nearly 200 SWL cards from around the world, all of which we shared with him. Needless to say, he was absolutely delighted." At ANS deadline, funeral arrangements for Junior were still pending. But word was received that his funeral and interment was to be in at the Gethsemane Cemetery in Sao Paulo, Brazil. [ANS thanks Keith KB1SF/VA3KSF for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Membership Deal and Getting Started Just a few reminders for all the new folks joining us: AMSAT membership supports the organization and construction of new satellites. Right now, we are offering a free PDF copy of our Getting Started with Amateur Satellites with every new on-line membership. This is -the- primer for getting on the sats, and is updated every year. See https://www.amsat.org/product-category/amsat-membership/ AMSAT also sells both the popular Arrow Antenna satellite models and the M2 LEOpack antennas. Sales also benefit AMSAT projects. https://www.amsat.org/product-category/hardware/ [ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming club satellite presentations (and hopefully demos...) Philip N4HF announces a couple of presentations he'll be doing. 1) Blue Ridge ARC (Henderson County NC), Tuesday March 6, 7pm. http://radioclub.org/ (this club has also started streaming club meetings via TeamViewer; the demo, if it happens, will be outside though) 2) Haywood County ARC (NC), Thursday April 12, 7 pm. http://kw4p.org/ (Meeting place is incorrect on the website, but hopefully that will be updated in the next few days) Philip states he will be at one hamfest under the AMSAT banner, and possibly two, in the next couple of months. He will be announcing those when the info is finalized. [ANS thanks Philip N4HF for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Zhou Enlai Student Satellite to Launch The 2U CubeSat Zhou Enlai, developed with primary and middle school students, is expected to launch on Friday, January 19, 2018 The satellite is named after the first Premier of the PRC. Zhou Enlai held office from October 1949 until January 1976. A report on Xinhua Net says: The satellite was sent from its production base in Huai'an Youth Comprehensive Development Base in east China's Jiangsu Province to Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in northwest China's Gansu Province Monday, where a CZ-11 solid fuel rocket is scheduled to put it into orbit Friday. Twenty teenagers who participated in the development project accompanied the transport group to the launch center and will witness the lift-off. Zhang Xiang, chief designer of the satellite, said that the nano- satellite, weighing 2 kilograms, is set to run in sun-synchronous orbit. Equipped with a HD optical camera, it can capture space photos with the highest resolution among those shot by other Chinese satellites for scientific education purpose. Zhang said that the students had taken their spare time to join the development and groundbased simulation performance of the satellite, and had learnt to assemble and practice voice data transfer and telecommunication applications. "A scientific satellite like this is like a teacher in space, carrying cameras or spectroscopes to study the upper atmosphere or to shoot space pictures of the stars. Students can grasp the mystery of the universe through the messages transmitted by the teacher," said Zhang, a professor with Nanjing University of Science and Engineering. Read the full story at http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-01/17/c_136902466.htm The IARU satellite pages list a 2U CubeSat called HA-1 with FM transponder and SSTV developed by the Teenagers Amateur Radio Center of Activity in Huai'an. Zhou Enlai may well be the new name for this satellite. http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=589 [ANS thanks Southgate ARN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AO-92 camera results For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we have done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position on the ground. The images can be seen at: http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be found at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the camera experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! [ANS thanks Drew KO4MA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- N8RO Logs 488th US Grid - Earns Grid Master Award #8 Congratulations to Ron Oldham, N8RO, to log his last grid needed to have worked via satellite all 488 grids in the Lower 48 United States. Ron's message on the amsat-bb reads, "On Sunday [January 14] I was able to log the last grid I needed to complete the 488 US grids. I would like to publicly thank Doug, N6UA, for going out of his way to help me get DN23 in my log. Without the efforts of many portable satellite operators like Doug it would not be possible to achieve this accomplishment. Many thanks to all of the operators that helped me throughout the years." Ron also noted the Top 10 portable satellite operators who's efforts have provided opportunities for contacts including: ND9M - 332 K8YSE - 273 AC0RA - 234 W5PFG - 205 WC7V - 126 WD9EWK - 117 KA6SIP - 108 NJ7H - 89 A5CK - 710 KB5WIA - 610 KB0RZD - 6 On January 17 Damon, WA4HFN announced, "Congrats to Ron,N8RO for earning Grid Master Award #8". The Grid Master Award is given for confirmed satellite contacts with all 488 U.S. Grids." These awards are available at no cost but Damon requests that you make a donation to AMSAT-NA. For more information visit the web site: http://www.squirtthebirds.com [ANS thanks Ron, N8RO via the amsat-bb, and Damon, WA4HFN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 1-16-2018 Here is the current tracking status for AO-92 and PICSAT. Updates to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution Nico Janssen, PA0DLO, by detailed doppler measurements has confirmed the identity of the AO-92 and PICSAT from the 1-12-2018 0358 GMT India PSLV-C40 launch. They have been added to the AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution: PICSAT - NORAD CAT ID 43131 AO-92 - NORAD CAT ID 43137 The following objects have been dropped from the AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution: OBJECT A - NORAD CAT ID 43111 OBJECT B - NORAD CAT ID 43112 OBJECT C - NORAD CAT ID 43113 OBJECT D - NORAD CAT ID 43114 OBJECT E - NORAD CAT ID 43115 OBJECT F - NORAD CAT ID 43116 OBJECT T - NORAD CAT ID 43128 OBJECT U - NORAD CAT ID 43129 99934 - NORAD CAT ID 99934 Please modify your tracking program as required. To receive AMSAT's Keplerian Element updates directly to your e-mail box subscribe at: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/keps [ANS thanks AMSAT for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fox-1 MPPT Developers Interviewed on HamRadio360 Podcast Cale, K4CDN, interviewed the Salmi brothers, Brent, KB1LQD, and Bryce, KB1LQC, on the HamRadio360 podcast. Brent and Bryce are the developers of the Maximum Power Point Tracker (MPPT) used in the Fox-1B, Fox-1Cliff, and Fox-1D cubesats. The MPPT is the controlling interface between the solar panel with the electrical system of the Fox-1 satellites in such a way that the conditions for maximum power are always met when needed. Cale, Brent and Bryce also discuss their Open Source Digital Radio company, Faraday RF. Listen to the HamRadio360 podcast at: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-HamRadio360-Podcast [ANS thanks Cale, K4CDN, and HamRadio360 for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News + A Successful contact was made between Higher National School of Computer Science and Systems Analysis (ENSIAS), Rabat, Morocco and Astronaut Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP using Callsign NA1SS. The contact began 2018-01-03 13:52 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was telebridge via VK5ZAI]. ARISS Mentor was Eskil SM5SRR. + A Successful contact was made between Prva srednja informaticka ?kola, Zagreb, Croatia] and Astronaut Scott Tingle KG5NZA using Callsign NA1SS. The contact began 2018-01-18 08:46 UTC and lasted about nine and a half minutes. Contact was telebridge via VK6MJ. ARISS Mentor was Marco 9A8MM. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-20 01:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Naka Junior High School, Kakamigahara City, Japan, direct via 8J25D The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-01-22 10:23:21 UTC Contact is direct with 8J25D and should be audible over Japan and adjacent areas. The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-24 10:35:45 UTC [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + MONTSERRAT, VP2M. Daniel, KD9HNL is QRV as VP2MDH until January 29. Activity is on various FM satellites. QSL via LoTW. [ANS thanks ARRL DX news for the above information] + AMSAT-NA President Joe Spier K6WAO Interviewed in February QST Read Steve Ford's WB8IMY interview of AMSAT-NA President Joe Spier K6WAO in Frebrauary's QST. The interview which, appears on page 69 of the issue, covers Joe's amateur radiocCareer, his vision for the future of AMSAT-NA and amateur satelites in general, challenges on the horizon, prospect of HEOs and geostationary amateur satellites. [ANS thanks QST for the above information] + More background on the satellites aboard the PSLV-C40 flight: https://amsat-uk.org/2018/01/13/ham-radio-cubesat-launch-success/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] + NASA Social Media event https://www.nasa.gov/social/state-of-nasa-social-2018 [ANS thanks NASA for the above information] + Jerry Buxton N0JY VP Enginneering On HamTalkLive On January 18, Thursday night at 9 pm Eastern time, Jerry Buxton, N0JY the vice president for engineering at AMSAT was interview on the HamTalkLive webcast to talk about the process of building amateur radio satellites, and the latest on the newest bird, Fox 1D which just arrived in space last week! If you miss the show live, you can listen on demand 24/7/365.25 at: https://www.spreaker.com/show/ham-talk-live - select episode #98. or https://tinyurl.com/ANS021-HamTalkLive [ANS thanks HamTalkLive.com for the above information]) --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM aa8em at amsat dot org 75 From wandtosborne at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:58:18 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:58:18 +1300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch In-Reply-To: References: <353B18A2A8294A2491F74516BEAA9036@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: Launch successful. Satellites launched into orbit. Should be a replay up on the web site soon. https://www.rocketlabusa.com/ 73, Terry ZL2BAC -----Original Message----- From: B J Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 2:45 PM To: Wendy and Terry Osborne Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch We have liftoff! It's a smooth launch so far. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From kl0s at cox.net Sun Jan 21 01:54:10 2018 From: kl0s at cox.net (Dino Papas) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:54:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch In-Reply-To: <0pWs1x0244F0Vt701pWuEd> References: <0pWs1x0244F0Vt701pWuEd> Message-ID: Now that was cool! 73 - Dino KL0S > On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:30 PM, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > Live streaming of today?s launch attempt has just started: > https://www.rocketlabusa.com/live-stream/ > > Hope the boats stay out of the way today. > > 73, > Terry ZL2BAC From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Sun Jan 21 02:06:48 2018 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:06:48 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is This a Connector? If so, what kind? In-Reply-To: References: <06f201d39259$357bb240$a07316c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Feed through capacitors. -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Wagener Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:56 PM To: anderson58625 Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is This a Connector? If so, what kind? Thanks Mark, These are basic soldering pins. That's all. The RF connection is via N-connectors :-) Hope this helps, Stefan VE4NSA On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:43 PM, anderson58625 wrote: > Hello! > > > > Not being especially familiar with microwave equipment, I came across a > type > of connection which is currently a mystery to me. I know it is a > connection, but I'm not sure if it is a connector. > > > > In seeing pictures of some microwave PA's, sometimes a fine pin or pins are > on the chassis for voltage connection. But, is it a connector? If so, > what > kind? (with that I can Google my way to more information) > > > > I'm guessing the connection is special to ensure insulation and the > integrity of chassis shielding(?), but I can't seem to find the mating > female connector (if that pin is indeed a connector and not just a > connection). > > > > I'm guessing the BB won't allow images inside a message, so there are some > examples at > https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/150-w-ssb-23cm-1- > 2ghz-amplifier-plu > s-extras.596138/ (scroll down over half way). > > > > Not being even close to needing an amp-I just got my Arrow ant. but > haven't > even make a contact yet -I still must have interest or I wouldn't be > daydreaming by looking at antennas, LNA's, transverters, and PA's online. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Mark W9AT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wandtosborne at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 02:13:52 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:13:52 +1300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch In-Reply-To: References: <353B18A2A8294A2491F74516BEAA9036@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: <5667513BCD544502ACA97AA7C8EE1254@OsbornesPC> The replay is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1488&v=eg5234BOED8 73, Terry ZL2BAC -----Original Message----- From: B J Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 2:56 PM To: Wendy and Terry Osborne Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch The payloads have been successfully deployed. Congratulations to Rocket Lab! 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From johnbrier at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 02:36:31 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 21:36:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch In-Reply-To: <5667513BCD544502ACA97AA7C8EE1254@OsbornesPC> References: <353B18A2A8294A2491F74516BEAA9036@OsbornesPC> <5667513BCD544502ACA97AA7C8EE1254@OsbornesPC> Message-ID: Wow that was impressive when it first took off! Congrats Rocket Lab and New Zealand! 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Jan 20, 2018 9:35 PM, "Wendy and Terry Osborne" wrote: > The replay is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch? > time_continue=1488&v=eg5234BOED8 > 73, > Terry ZL2BAC > > -----Original Message----- From: B J > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 2:56 PM > To: Wendy and Terry Osborne > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Todays Rocket Lab Launch > > The payloads have been successfully deployed. Congratulations to Rocket > Lab! > > 73s > > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From py41 at att.net Sun Jan 21 02:45:05 2018 From: py41 at att.net (Perry Yantis) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 02:45:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/V mode References: <510134611.1393843.1516502705190.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <510134611.1393843.1516502705190@mail.yahoo.com> Just worked AO-92 L/V mode for the first time.Glad to see the old 1269 board in my TS-2000x still works after all this time of no satellites with this mode!!!!!I am using TS-2000x, M2 beam antennas on both bands, computer control with MacDoppler/Mac computer, Yaesu 5400B rotors.Signals were weak to strong on this 30 degree elevation pass (orbit 132).I worked N8HM, KE4AL, WB8RJY, N8TL, VE4AMU.?Perry WB8OTH py41 at att.net sent from my Apple Macbook Pro From gary_mayfield at hotmail.com Sun Jan 21 02:15:14 2018 From: gary_mayfield at hotmail.com (Gary) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 02:15:14 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is This a Connector? If so, what kind? In-Reply-To: References: <06f201d39259$357bb240$a07316c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Minor update they are feedthrough capacitors. A good way to get DC / Low frequency into and out of the box. Like found here: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=feedthrough+capacitor+threaded Looks like some nice handiwork! 73, Joe kk0sd -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Wagener Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:57 PM To: anderson58625 Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is This a Connector? If so, what kind? Thanks Mark, These are basic soldering pins. That's all. The RF connection is via N-connectors :-) Hope this helps, Stefan VE4NSA On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:43 PM, anderson58625 wrote: > Hello! > > > > Not being especially familiar with microwave equipment, I came across > a type of connection which is currently a mystery to me. I know it is > a connection, but I'm not sure if it is a connector. > > > > In seeing pictures of some microwave PA's, sometimes a fine pin or > pins are on the chassis for voltage connection. But, is it a > connector? If so, what kind? (with that I can Google my way to more > information) > > > > I'm guessing the connection is special to ensure insulation and the > integrity of chassis shielding(?), but I can't seem to find the mating > female connector (if that pin is indeed a connector and not just a > connection). > > > > I'm guessing the BB won't allow images inside a message, so there are > some examples at > https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/150-w-ssb-23cm-1- > 2ghz-amplifier-plu > s-extras.596138/ (scroll down over half way). > > > > Not being even close to needing an amp-I just got my Arrow ant. but > haven't even make a contact yet -I still must have interest or > I wouldn't be daydreaming by looking at antennas, LNA's, transverters, > and PA's online. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Mark W9AT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Sun Jan 21 12:48:12 2018 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] L band transmit setup In-Reply-To: <00cd01d39237$fe885340$fb98f9c0$@bellsouth.net> References: <00cd01d39237$fe885340$fb98f9c0$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <331413996.2316074.1516538892887@mail.yahoo.com> I'll add that I'm interested in Antenna/feed setups being used by folks? Rob KA2CZU On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:49:03 PM EST, redski at bellsouth.net wrote: Can someone offer a little advice about the requirements for using the Fox L-band uplinks? I have an full duplex u/V and v/U satellite station so I'm guessing that my easiest route to L-band is an upconverter. But I've never used anything above UHF, so any thoughts on what might be needed to get started would be appreciated. 73, Red KC4LE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hamsat at xs4all.nl Sun Jan 21 13:00:51 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:00:51 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] TianYi 2 identified and TianYi 6 almost identified In-Reply-To: <475054464.1692839.1516465352916@mail.yahoo.com> References: <6ef84b38-af8d-9429-3036-2f1c5b73f190@xs4all.nl> <475054464.1692839.1516465352916@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm afraid I have not yet managed to detect any downlink signals from HA 1. 73, Nico On 20-01-18 17:22, Nitin Muttin via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Thanks, Please share for "HA-1"?http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=589?73 > Nitin [VU3TYG] > > From: Nico Janssen > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Ray Hoad > Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2018 6:59 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] TianYi 2 identified and TianYi 6 almost identified > > All, > > Detailed doppler measurements show that TianYi 2 (TY 2) is > object 43155, 2018-008A. TY 2 is a payload in the satellite > XiaoXiang 2 (XX 2). Downlink: 435.350 MHz. > > Detailed doppler measurements show that TianYi 6 (TY 6) is > either object 43157, 2018-008C, or 43158, 2018-008D. TY 6 is > a payload in the satellite QuanTuTong 1 (QTT 1). > Downlink: 436.100 MHz. > > Currently the separation between objects 43157 and 43158 is > less than 1 second. > > 73, > Nico PA0DLO > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From py4zbz at yahoo.com Sun Jan 21 13:00:59 2018 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat 242 packets uploaded ! References: <1309141795.2366096.1516539659141.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1309141795.2366096.1516539659141@mail.yahoo.com> See here my reception of the PicSat packages and upload: <> 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From py5lf at falautomation.com.br Sun Jan 21 14:25:03 2018 From: py5lf at falautomation.com.br (PY5LF) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:25:03 -0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO92 Reception , L band uplink. Message-ID: Hi A short v?deo about AO92 pass over here , today , 1:46UTC . https://youtu.be/mJHhUVvHBDU Congrats AMSAT-NA! 73 From normanlizeth at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 08:28:54 2018 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 03:28:54 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is This a Connector? If so, what kind? In-Reply-To: <06f201d39259$357bb240$a07316c0$@gmail.com> References: <06f201d39259$357bb240$a07316c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: RF connectors are "N". The single pin animals (for power and signal) are feed through capacitors. Helps keep noise and bad stuff out of the power supply/signal input chain. Less of a mess to deal with at RF. 'PQL makes nice kits. Well documented. Currently building my way to a pair of amps (VHF and UHF) for the B210. The ultimate amp control board will do many of the amp control things natively. SWR sense, lockout, sequence (DC power, bias, RF power and holdoff, in that order and reverse for unkey) Relatively inexpensive to buy this kit. Slightly painful to build as it's SMD. Ring magnifier at a minimum. Best with a stereo microscope. The right tools make the job almost painless. His analog method of doing timing for the control board is pretty neat. Spent a few hours contemplating that circuit. Uses an LM35 to do temperature sensing. My amps run out on the edge. Best place to run (cleanest) them per the data sheet. Does mean that there's not a lot of headroom for errors and oopsies. Using VI cor 24VDC in-> 12V 5A bricks to run the chips and electronics. Paneltronics has 24V 5A circuit breakers to stop any power supply craziiness. I used Phoenix Mecanno enclosures with integral card slots. Not quite as pretty as a custom milled enclosure. Norm n3ykf On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:43 PM, anderson58625 wrote: > Hello! > > > > Not being especially familiar with microwave equipment, I came across a type > of connection which is currently a mystery to me. I know it is a > connection, but I'm not sure if it is a connector. > > > > In seeing pictures of some microwave PA's, sometimes a fine pin or pins are > on the chassis for voltage connection. But, is it a connector? If so, what > kind? (with that I can Google my way to more information) > > > > I'm guessing the connection is special to ensure insulation and the > integrity of chassis shielding(?), but I can't seem to find the mating > female connector (if that pin is indeed a connector and not just a > connection). > > > > I'm guessing the BB won't allow images inside a message, so there are some > examples at > https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/150-w-ssb-23cm-1-2ghz-amplifier-plu > s-extras.596138/ (scroll down over half way). > > > > Not being even close to needing an amp-I just got my Arrow ant. but haven't > even make a contact yet -I still must have interest or I wouldn't be > daydreaming by looking at antennas, LNA's, transverters, and PA's online. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Mark W9AT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From heliox694-iw1dtu at yahoo.com Sun Jan 21 09:11:25 2018 From: heliox694-iw1dtu at yahoo.com (IW1DTU Fer) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 L/V mode In-Reply-To: <510134611.1393843.1516502705190@mail.yahoo.com> References: <510134611.1393843.1516502705190.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <510134611.1393843.1516502705190@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1875692674.2333657.1516525885899@mail.yahoo.com> Worked yesterday morning two AO-92 L/V pass over Europe. Quite a good signal using TS-790 10W out on 1267.35 , 25m of cellflex 1/2", 10 elements loop yagi H pol.? Worked Rocco IK8XLD? William IU2EFA? Filippo IZ5TEP? Jose EB1AO. Congratulations to AO-92 team and AMSAT-NA. 73 Fer IW1DTU On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 2:56:16 AM GMT, Perry Yantis wrote: Just worked AO-92 L/V mode for the first time.Glad to see the old 1269 board in my TS-2000x still works after all this time of no satellites with this mode!!!!!I am using TS-2000x, M2 beam antennas on both bands, computer control with MacDoppler/Mac computer, Yaesu 5400B rotors.Signals were weak to strong on this 30 degree elevation pass (orbit 132).I worked N8HM, KE4AL, WB8RJY, N8TL, VE4AMU.?Perry WB8OTH py41 at att.net sent from my Apple Macbook Pro _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From anderson58625 at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 09:20:22 2018 From: anderson58625 at gmail.com (anderson fiveeightsixtwofive) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 03:20:22 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is This a Connector? If so, what kind? In-Reply-To: References: <06f201d39259$357bb240$a07316c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Stefan, Glenn, & Norm for the answers! 73 Mark W9AT On Jan 21, 2018 2:28 AM, "Norm n3ykf" wrote: > RF connectors are "N". The single pin animals (for power and signal) > are feed through capacitors. Helps keep noise and bad stuff out of the > power supply/signal input chain. Less of a mess to deal with at RF. > > 'PQL makes nice kits. Well documented. Currently building my way to a > pair of amps (VHF and UHF) for the B210. > > The ultimate amp control board will do many of the amp control things > natively. SWR sense, lockout, sequence (DC power, bias, RF power and > holdoff, in that order and reverse for unkey) > > Relatively inexpensive to buy this kit. Slightly painful to build as > it's SMD. Ring magnifier at a minimum. Best with a stereo microscope. > The right tools make the job almost painless. > > His analog method of doing timing for the control board is pretty > neat. Spent a few hours contemplating that circuit. > > Uses an LM35 to do temperature sensing. My amps run out on the edge. > Best place to run (cleanest) them per the data sheet. Does mean that > there's not a lot of headroom for errors and oopsies. > > Using VI cor 24VDC in-> 12V 5A bricks to run the chips and > electronics. Paneltronics has 24V 5A circuit breakers to stop any > power supply craziiness. > > I used Phoenix Mecanno enclosures with integral card slots. Not quite > as pretty as a custom milled enclosure. > > Norm n3ykf > > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:43 PM, anderson58625 > wrote: > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Not being especially familiar with microwave equipment, I came across a > type > > of connection which is currently a mystery to me. I know it is a > > connection, but I'm not sure if it is a connector. > > > > > > > > In seeing pictures of some microwave PA's, sometimes a fine pin or pins > are > > on the chassis for voltage connection. But, is it a connector? If so, > what > > kind? (with that I can Google my way to more information) > > > > > > > > I'm guessing the connection is special to ensure insulation and the > > integrity of chassis shielding(?), but I can't seem to find the mating > > female connector (if that pin is indeed a connector and not just a > > connection). > > > > > > > > I'm guessing the BB won't allow images inside a message, so there are > some > > examples at > > https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/150-w-ssb-23cm-1- > 2ghz-amplifier-plu > > s-extras.596138/ (scroll down over half way). > > > > > > > > Not being even close to needing an amp-I just got my Arrow ant. but > haven't > > even make a contact yet -I still must have interest or I wouldn't > be > > daydreaming by looking at antennas, LNA's, transverters, and PA's online. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > Mark W9AT > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ik8xld at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 10:37:36 2018 From: ik8xld at gmail.com (Rocco Labella) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:37:36 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 in L/v Mode Over Europe Message-ID: Worked Fer IW1DTU yesterday at 09:08 UTC via AO-92 in L/V mode over Europe. Good signal using transverter +20W PA directly under a 23 element yagi orizzontal polarization. Unfortunately the transverter IF is on the same satellite downlink band so I can't hear myself but I am working out this issue. Here a short QSO video https://youtu.be/ifjEKS-HhBc TNX to AO-92 Team 73, Rocco IK8XLD From w1pa at hotmail.com Sun Jan 21 01:54:06 2018 From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill Acito) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 01:54:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast mounted low noise amps In-Reply-To: <7B21A845-3E66-483E-A7D4-55D6838F968E@icloud.com> References: <7B21A845-3E66-483E-A7D4-55D6838F968E@icloud.com> Message-ID: This is a wealth of information, Greg...? thank you! Bill? W1PA On 1/20/2018 5:28 PM, Gregory Beat wrote: > Bill - > > The Icom AG-series of mast mounted pre-amplifiers for weak-signal and > satellite work are now legacy (I believe Icom has discontinued > recently). ?A lower noise figure of the active device (FET, MMIC) is > important for satellite work (sky), than weak-signal work (noisy > terrain/earth). > High noise-levels with the AG-series are often attributed to a Failed > FET or an improper FET replacement by an earlier owner. > From n8hm at arrl.net Sun Jan 21 15:48:43 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:48:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Commissioning Update: HERCI Experiment and L-Band Downshifter Tested Message-ID: An update on the AO-92 commissioning process has been posted at: https://www.amsat.org/ao-92-commissioning-update-herci-experiment-and-l-band-downshifter-tested/ 73, Paul, N8HM From pconver at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 15:50:43 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:50:43 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Argentina PicoBallon over South Africa Message-ID: As part of celebration of LUSAT 28th aniversary, on 01/19, LU1ESY PicoBalloon was launched from V.Gessell, Argentina, now after 3 days flying over South Africa at 12Km height and hopefully heading to Australia and New Zealand. Thanks! for all stations reporting on http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/map . Is transmitting on 14075.6 KHz WSPR, 25 mW, 25 grams payload using a WB8ELK tracker. See tracking from http://lu7aa.org/wspr.asp , pictures at http://amsat.org.ar/globo09.htm 73, LU7AA, Amsat Argentina From marklhammond at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 15:55:40 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:55:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Commissioning Update: HERCI Experiment and L-Band Downshifter Tested In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13vg1x0072NCbDF013vgdR@gmail.com> Very nicely done, Paul! Thanks. mark At 10:48 AM 1/21/2018 -0500, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >An update on the AO-92 commissioning process has been posted at: > >https://www.amsat.org/ao-92-commissioning-update-herci-experiment-and-l-band-downshifter-tested/ > >73, > >Paul, N8HM >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ke4al at yahoo.com Sun Jan 21 15:58:20 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] L band transmit setup In-Reply-To: <331413996.2316074.1516538892887@mail.yahoo.com> References: <00cd01d39237$fe885340$fb98f9c0$@bellsouth.net> <331413996.2316074.1516538892887@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1473551461.2418397.1516550300469@mail.yahoo.com> Initial L-band testing (approximately a 16 deg eastern pass) indicated that it may not take as much power as initially thought to get into the L-band portion of AO-92.? One op, N8HM was using an Alinco DJ-G7T handheld with 1 watt and a modified Comet CYA-1216e yagi (boom drilled to accept 2m elements from Arrow antenna.? Feed line was 4' of LMR-240UF plus two adapters: BNC to SMA adapter for the HT and BNC to N adapter. Another op, N8TLV, was using an FT-104 hand held with 1 watt, fed into stock rubber duck antenna.? Again, this was initial testing and represents my personal observations.? I am not affiliated with AMSAT, other than being a member and enthusiastic satellite operator. The Comet CYA-1216e yagi, when combined with Arrow Antennas 2m elements, appears to be a popular antenna for portable operations.? M2 Antennas, Directive Systems Engineering, and WiMo offer several antenna choices, depending if you need a tower-mounted antenna or something capable of being handheld. Shorter, high quality coax, with no adapters will always provide a better result. LMR240 or 240UF will be fine for shorter, hand-held runs,? LMR400 for moder runs, and LMR600 + for longest runs. As for a preamp, it will depend on your setup.? If you need a preamp to hear AO-91, then you will need one to hear AO-92. Hope this helps,73 de KE4AL, Robert EM71 On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 6:49:22 AM CST, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB wrote: I'll add that I'm interested in Antenna/feed setups being used by folks? Rob KA2CZU ? ? On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:49:03 PM EST, redski at bellsouth.net wrote:? Can someone offer a little advice about the requirements for using the Fox L-band uplinks? I have an full duplex u/V and v/U satellite station so I'm guessing that my easiest route to L-band is an upconverter. But I've never used anything above UHF, so any thoughts on what might be needed to get started would be appreciated. 73, Red KC4LE _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ke4al at yahoo.com Sun Jan 21 16:06:21 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Commissioning Update: HERCI Experiment and L-Band Downshifter Tested In-Reply-To: <13vg1x0072NCbDF013vgdR@gmail.com> References: <13vg1x0072NCbDF013vgdR@gmail.com> Message-ID: <98214853.2412998.1516550781719@mail.yahoo.com> Great writeup, Paul.? Great to hear all of the activity and different approaches to getting into AO-92 L-band. Congratulations to the entire AMSAT team! 73 de KE4AL, Robert On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 9:57:03 AM CST, Mark L. Hammond wrote: Very nicely done, Paul!? Thanks. mark At 10:48 AM 1/21/2018 -0500, Paul Stoetzer wrote: >An update on the AO-92 commissioning process has been posted at: > >https://www.amsat.org/ao-92-commissioning-update-herci-experiment-and-l-band-downshifter-tested/ > >73, > >Paul, N8HM >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 17:30:09 2018 From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:30:09 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat Requests Amateur Radio Assistance to Capture/Upload Telemetry Message-ID: <5a64ce22.95896b0a.61408.dcc6@mx.google.com> [ANS Ed. Note] - The PicSat team is active on Twitter with status updates, mission information, and a request, received today, for amateur radio assistance to capture telemetry and upload the data. We'll repeat this request in the next AMSAT News Service Bulletins - but that is next weekend - so here is a copy to the amsat-bb in case anyone can help them out sooner ... --- PicSat Requests Amateur Radio Assistance to Capture/Upload Telemetry Cubesat PicSat was launched on the same PSLV-C40 flight from India that delivered AO-92 to orbit. PicSat is a nano-satellite aimed at observing the transit of the young exoplanet Beta Pictoris b in front of its bright and equally young star Beta Pictoris, and at demonstrating an innovative technological concept to use optical fibres for astronomical observations from Space. The cubesat contains an embedded FM transponder. It will be avail- able when possible during the mission. Frequency information: Uplink FM 145.910 MHz 1750 Hz tone when in amateur mode Downlink FM 435.525 MHz 9k6 BPSK AX25 Data and FM voice when in amateur mode A description of the telemetry and related information are available on https://picsat.obspm.fr/data/telemetries?locale=en. This week the PicSat team requested amateur radio assistance to capture and upload telemetry packets from the satellite. Beacons received from all over the world are especially useful to monitor the status of satellite along its orbit (and not just when it is above our own station). Science data are obviously useful for the science mission. And all other packets, even when they do not look like much, can be of great importance! For example, we often receive satellite acknowledgements to our commands from ground station in France or Europe which are listening at the same time as us. It may look useless, but it is not. We regularly miss those packets our- selves, so it is good to have other people receiving them and sending them to us. There are three ways to send your data. The options for your upload will become available on your profile tab after registration at their website: https://picsat.obspm.fr/connexion?locale=en. Full details of the packet uploading procedure are posted at: https://picsat.obspm.fr/contributing/send-packets?locale=en + Fast upload beacon: mainly intended as a way to directly upload a beacon by copy/paste when you receive, and to get an immediate overview of the satellite status. When you are a new user, this is also the only way you can upload a packet. Upload one beacon successfully, and you will have access to the other methods! This page accepts a hexadecimal string, like "0123456789ABCDEF" in which whitespaces and upper/lower case are ignored ("01 23 45 67 89 ab cd ef", or even something like "0 1 234 56789 aBc dEf" will be accepted). The hexadecimal string must represent the AX.25 packet (without flags), possibly KISS encapsulated (starting with "C0 00" and ending with "C0") + Upload data: this can be used to upload files containing multiple packets at once. The files are stored on our servers, and processed daily. + SiDS requests: This will be implemented in the near future. PicSat shares a similar orbit with AO-91 since they were both deployed at approximately the same time. PicSat has been included in the 2 line Keplerian Elements distributions. On-line orbit predications for PicSat can be found at: https://picsat.obspm.fr/operations/orbital-map?locale=en. [ANS thanks the PicSat Team for the above information] From rjlawn at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 22:32:44 2018 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:32:44 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mast Mounted GaAsFET low noise preamps Message-ID: A friend forwarded a recent post regarding preamps. I noticed that the data on the one study was from 2010. It also didn?t mention two very fine preamps -those made by SSB Electronics and the extraordinary 2meter preamp made by WA2ODO that many EME operators use. They post the lowest noise levels and highest gains I?ve ever seen, but they do not have relays so they cannot pass rf and relays are therefore required. They are also inexpensive. 73 Rick, W2JAZ -- Sent from Gmail Mobile From wandtosborne at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 02:57:14 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:57:14 +1300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps Question from Rocket Lab launch Message-ID: Hi Folks, I have found a set of Keps from yesterday?s Rocket Lab launch. 2018-010A 1 43163U 18010A 18021.87397025 .00000319 -10052-5 00000+0 0 9996 2 43163 82.9164 138.6720 0176456 219.4667 139.3657 15.51933178 120 2018-010B 1 43164U 18010B 18021.89134907 .00000035 00000-0 00000+0 0 9998 2 43164 82.9271 138.6991 0029255 248.8502 110.7671 15.17838339 122 2018-010C 1 43165U 18010C 18021.95720165 .00000036 00000-0 00000+0 0 9994 2 43165 82.9208 138.6356 0031890 240.7480 118.8502 15.17897039 137 2018-010D 1 43166U 18010D 18021.93802473 .00000320 -10083-5 00000+0 0 9990 2 43166 82.9232 138.6174 0172791 220.0084 138.7693 15.52599809 135 2018-010E 1 43167U 18010E 18021.89220116 .00000035 00000-0 00000+0 0 9999 2 43167 82.9254 138.6995 0024458 245.8147 114.0537 15.16199901 124 2018-010F 1 43168U 18010F 18021.87420109 .00000318 -10038-5 00000+0 0 9994 2 43168 82.9247 138.6716 0176956 220.2187 138.6723 15.51608672 128 They appear to be in 2 groups. 2018-010A, 2018-010D and 2018-010F are close together. Similarly 2018-010B, 2018-010C and 2018-010E are close together. I suspect that A,D and F are the satellites and B,C and E are the Rocket body and debris. Is there any way of confirming which is which? Or does anyone have the downlink frequencies for Dove Pioneer or Lemur-2? 73, Terry ZL2BAC From AJ9N at aol.com Mon Jan 22 04:04:06 2018 From: AJ9N at aol.com (AJ9N at aol.com) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 23:04:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-22 04:00 UTC Message-ID: <70a919.80e48a4.4796bcb6@aol.com> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-22 04:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Naka Junior High School, Kakamigahara City, Japan, direct via 8J25D The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-01-22 10:23:21 UTC 53 deg The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-24 10:35:45 UTC 56 deg Watch for live stream at www.cyhams.org/ariss.html (***) **************************************************************************** ** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. **************************************************************************** *** All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. **************************************************************************** *** Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. **************************************************************************** Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 127 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-01-22 04:00 UTC. (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1202. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1151. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-20 01:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors From ke4al at yahoo.com Mon Jan 22 05:28:12 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 05:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List References: <788342037.2758465.1516598892651.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <788342037.2758465.1516598892651@mail.yahoo.com> I am trying to compile a list of radios and transverters capable of operating L-band satellites (Fox-1D, Fox-1Cliff, and ESEO). A Google search revealed the following equipment.? Those still in production are identifies as "(current)" If you know of any others, please pass along. Robert, KE4AL Base: ? Icom IC-910H ? Icom IC-9100 (current) ? Kenwood TS-790A ? Kenwood TS-2000X (current) ? Yaesu Ft-736R Mobile: ? Icom ID-1 ? Kenwood TM-751A ? Kenwood TM-741A/-941A ? Kenwood TM-742A/-942A HT: ? Alinco DJ-G7T (current) ? Icom IC-12GAT ? Icom IC-T81A Transverters: ? DEMI 1296-144 ? DEMI L23HP (current) ? Kuhne Electronics TR 1296 H 28/144 (current) ? Kuhne Elecronics MKU 13 G3 23cm ? SG Laboratory LTD 1296-144 (current) From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Jan 22 05:49:07 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 00:49:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus Message-ID: <7DB14C273F364D809205D3A3B4B8A61F@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus on 24 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 10:35 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be audible over the west coast of the U.S. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Watch for live stream at www.cyhams.org/ariss.html . The English School is a co-educational day school attended by students between the ages of 11 and 19. It is situated in Nicosia, the capital of Cyprus. The medium of instruction is English and entry to the school is highly competitive. The school was founded in 1900 and currently has around 1100 mainly Cypriot students who are a rich mixture of the many different ethnic communities on the island. The school prides itself on its dynamic student body and strong academic tradition. Students in the school are encouraged to become life-long learners with the ability to analyse, think critically, question, and be flexible in preparation for the challenges they will face. One of the School's strengths is its vast range of extracurricular activities and clubs which students are encouraged to join. Currently, there are over 70 clubs and societies. The Amateur Radio Club (5B4ES), is one of these active societies. 5B4ES has been operating for 47 years, has a strong membership, and is a licensed radio amateur member. The Amateur Radio Club, together with the Astronomy Club, has been core to the ARISS project. The English School, Nicosia is committed to the principle of equal opportunities for all and seeks to uphold the rights of every individual within the school community. It celebrates diversity, and its ethos is one of trust, mutual respect, and understanding of each other's culture, ethnicity, religion, gender, and individual needs. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What experiment are you currently working on? 2. How is the ISS protected from impact with space debris? 3. What are the contingency plans if there is a puncture in the hull? 4. How important is the presence of amateur radio equipment on the ISS? 5. What is your main role on the ISS? 6. Do you get criticized by people who believe in conspiracy theories? 7. How much free time do you have on a mission? 8. What is the most dangerous situation you have had to deal with on the ISS? 9. Are your dreams affected by being in space? 10. How long can the ISS maintain its orbit without a rocket boost? 11. What do you believe is the most important attribute needed to become an astronaut? 12. Do you get informed if you have a family emergency? 13. What does the ISS smell like? 14. What happens if you get sick or injured during your mission? 15. If we could send you something right now, what would it be? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From n0jy at amsat.org Mon Jan 22 05:54:57 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 23:54:57 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List In-Reply-To: <788342037.2758465.1516598892651@mail.yahoo.com> References: <788342037.2758465.1516598892651.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <788342037.2758465.1516598892651@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <91dadea8-96a8-bcaa-be3e-fd509c01d1d6@amsat.org> Hi Robert, I use an SSB Electronics UTM 1200dlx converter, that I originally purchased for AO-51.? I believe that it is no longer in production but there may be used units out there. 5W in, 15W out, powered via a power injector in the coax line.? It's weatherproof and I used it outside several years before I moved the antennas "inside". An FT-817 is a perfect IF radio although I'm sure there are others you could use.? The UTM was designed for 1268-1270 MHz with 144-146 MHz input, so in order to get on AO-92 you need to account for that.? I have the older FT-817 not-ND so it's just a menu setting to open it up.? I switched to my FT-857 for AO-92 though because I think my 817 finals gave up the ghost just in time for launch.??? :-D The FT-857 mod to allow the 143 MHz operation was easy for me, if anyone is interested, and that says a lot since I'm not someone who you want to try soldering anything under 1/8 W resistor size or so.? It has done a great job for me on both AO-51 and so far, AO-92.? It has been turn it on, operate, forget that it's there.? I don't have any power measuring equipment for 1.2 GHz but I believe from the AO-51 use feeding through a lot of coax and watching on my SDR now, even down to 1/2 W in produces 1.2 GHz power out.? Found that out when the 817 power went low but I switched to the 857 just to be sure I had full output for testing and commissioning AO-92. Maybe eBay or a hamfest might turn something up for anyone who is interested. I didn't find much on an internet search when I was looking for a manual the other day, the only hint I found was an (old?) SSBUSA price list. http://www.ssbusa.com/ordering.html Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/21/2018 23:28, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I am trying to compile a list of radios and transverters capable of operating L-band satellites (Fox-1D, Fox-1Cliff, and ESEO). A Google search revealed the following equipment.? Those still in production are identifies as "(current)" > If you know of any others, please pass along. Robert, KE4AL > Base: > ? Icom IC-910H > ? Icom IC-9100 (current) > ? Kenwood TS-790A > ? Kenwood TS-2000X (current) > ? Yaesu Ft-736R > Mobile: > ? Icom ID-1 > ? Kenwood TM-751A > ? Kenwood TM-741A/-941A > ? Kenwood TM-742A/-942A > HT: > ? Alinco DJ-G7T (current) > ? Icom IC-12GAT > ? Icom IC-T81A > Transverters: > ? DEMI 1296-144 > ? DEMI L23HP (current) > ? Kuhne Electronics TR 1296 H 28/144 (current) > ? Kuhne Elecronics MKU 13 G3 23cm > ? SG Laboratory LTD 1296-144 (current) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ke4al at yahoo.com Mon Jan 22 06:51:46 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List In-Reply-To: <91dadea8-96a8-bcaa-be3e-fd509c01d1d6@amsat.org> References: <788342037.2758465.1516598892651.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <788342037.2758465.1516598892651@mail.yahoo.com> <91dadea8-96a8-bcaa-be3e-fd509c01d1d6@amsat.org> Message-ID: <2134311213.2782315.1516603906194@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Jerry.? Forgot about the?SSB Electronics UTM 1200dlx.? Adding it to the list. On ?Sunday?, ?January? ?21?, ?2018? ?11?:?56?:?44? ?PM? ?CST, Jerry Buxton wrote: Hi Robert, I use an SSB Electronics UTM 1200dlx converter, that I originally purchased for AO-51.? I believe that it is no longer in production but there may be used units out there. 5W in, 15W out, powered via a power injector in the coax line.? It's weatherproof and I used it outside several years before I moved the antennas "inside". An FT-817 is a perfect IF radio although I'm sure there are others you could use.? The UTM was designed for 1268-1270 MHz with 144-146 MHz input, so in order to get on AO-92 you need to account for that.? I have the older FT-817 not-ND so it's just a menu setting to open it up.? I switched to my FT-857 for AO-92 though because I think my 817 finals gave up the ghost just in time for launch.??? :-D The FT-857 mod to allow the 143 MHz operation was easy for me, if anyone is interested, and that says a lot since I'm not someone who you want to try soldering anything under 1/8 W resistor size or so.? It has done a great job for me on both AO-51 and so far, AO-92.? It has been turn it on, operate, forget that it's there.? I don't have any power measuring equipment for 1.2 GHz but I believe from the AO-51 use feeding through a lot of coax and watching on my SDR now, even down to 1/2 W in produces 1.2 GHz power out.? Found that out when the 817 power went low but I switched to the 857 just to be sure I had full output for testing and commissioning AO-92. Maybe eBay or a hamfest might turn something up for anyone who is interested. I didn't find much on an internet search when I was looking for a manual the other day, the only hint I found was an (old?) SSBUSA price list. http://www.ssbusa.com/ordering.html Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 1/21/2018 23:28, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I am trying to compile a list of radios and transverters capable of operating L-band satellites (Fox-1D, Fox-1Cliff, and ESEO). A Google search revealed the following equipment.? Those still in production are identifies as "(current)" > If you know of any others, please pass along. Robert, KE4AL > Base: > ? Icom IC-910H > ? Icom IC-9100 (current) > ? Kenwood TS-790A > ? Kenwood TS-2000X (current) > ? Yaesu Ft-736R > Mobile: > ? Icom ID-1 > ? Kenwood TM-751A > ? Kenwood TM-741A/-941A > ? Kenwood TM-742A/-942A > HT: > ? Alinco DJ-G7T (current) > ? Icom IC-12GAT > ? Icom IC-T81A > Transverters: > ? DEMI 1296-144 > ? DEMI L23HP (current) > ? Kuhne Electronics TR 1296 H 28/144 (current) > ? Kuhne Elecronics MKU 13 G3 23cm > ? SG Laboratory LTD 1296-144 (current) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From af5cc2 at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 07:00:12 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:00:12 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List In-Reply-To: <788342037.2758465.1516598892651@mail.yahoo.com> References: <788342037.2758465.1516598892651.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <788342037.2758465.1516598892651@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Robert, For base rigs you forgot the Icom 1271, 1275. and Icom 970. There was even a 2.4ghz module for the 970 to cover the satellite portion of that band. There is also the Standard C50 which is an FM only rig but of the basestation size. For HTs there are there also the Icom Delta 1, the Icom 12AT, the Yaesu FT911, the Icom X2A, the Icom X21A, the Kenwood TH89, Yaesu FT2303, Kenwood TH55 and TH59, and the Standard C628. Standard also had a couple of triband HTs I didn't count because they only did 35 milliwatts on 23cm. For mobile rigs, in addition to what you listed there is the Standard C6000, the Icom delta 100, the Icom 120, Icom 1200 and 1201, Icom 2500, Icom 3700, Kenwood TM521, Kenwood TM531, Kenwood TM541, Kenwood TR50, Kenwood TM833, Yaesu FT912, Yaesu FT2311, Yaesu FT2312, Yaesu FT5800, Yaesu FT6200, and a old model with the designation FT7800, it was a triband mobile rig, Hope this list helps. 73 John AF5CC On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I am trying to compile a list of radios and transverters capable of > operating L-band satellites (Fox-1D, Fox-1Cliff, and ESEO). A Google search > revealed the following equipment. Those still in production are identifies > as "(current)" > If you know of any others, please pass along. Robert, KE4AL > Base: > Icom IC-910H > Icom IC-9100 (current) > Kenwood TS-790A > Kenwood TS-2000X (current) > Yaesu Ft-736R > Mobile: > Icom ID-1 > Kenwood TM-751A > Kenwood TM-741A/-941A > Kenwood TM-742A/-942A > HT: > Alinco DJ-G7T (current) > Icom IC-12GAT > Icom IC-T81A > Transverters: > DEMI 1296-144 > DEMI L23HP (current) > Kuhne Electronics TR 1296 H 28/144 (current) > Kuhne Elecronics MKU 13 G3 23cm > SG Laboratory LTD 1296-144 (current) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From davhop at bigpond.net.au Mon Jan 22 07:57:10 2018 From: davhop at bigpond.net.au (David Hopkins) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:57:10 +1000 Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat Message-ID: <5A204A9611EA9492@smtp.telstra.com> (added by postmaster@smtp.telstra.com) Gentlemen, Is there a software program to receive and process the telemetry from Picsat? Looking for something similar to the provided software for the funcube satellites. It would be useful for the unattended operations here. Thanks David ' Definitely NOT sent from an iPhone. David G. Hopkins (VK4ZF) CAPALABA QLD AUSTRALIA 27' 32" 23.03S 153' 12' 01.54E QG62OL Skype :- davhop From godetj at wanadoo.fr Mon Jan 22 09:34:40 2018 From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:34:40 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] PicSat In-Reply-To: <5A204A9611EA9492@smtp.telstra.com> References: <5A204A9611EA9492@smtp.telstra.com> Message-ID: Hi David, all, I'm using gr-atellites, thanks to the great Daniel Est?vez EA4GPZ who helps us and not for the first time. It works fine, gr-satellite is doing the job very smoothly. You have just to manage a quite accurate Doppler shift tracking and the couple GPredict/Gqrx from alexandru csete OZ9AEC on a Linux machine is perfect to do that. Our friend Sylvain F4GKR and his students from SupElec high school are working on a solution that soon will work on a Windows machine. Have a nice day, 73 ! Jean-Pierre F5YG On 22/01/2018 07:57, David Hopkins wrote: > Gentlemen, > Is there a software program to receive? and process the telemetry from > Picsat? > > Looking for something similar to the provided software for the funcube > satellites. > > It would be useful for the unattended operations here. > > Thanks > > David > > ' > > > Definitely NOT sent from an? iPhone. > > David G. Hopkins (VK4ZF) > CAPALABA QLD > AUSTRALIA > 27' 32" 23.03S 153' 12' 01.54E > QG62OL > Skype :- davhop _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From matthew at mrstevens.net Mon Jan 22 14:07:45 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:07:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G5500 + LVB tracker for sale Message-ID: <45858E50-DF04-48CF-A37C-B60037B3D215@mrstevens.net> I have a like-new G5500 and LVB tracker for sale. I bought it last year with intentions to install an automated station, but it has sat in the garage and taken up space long enough. Everything is in excellent shape and works as it is supposed to, I only used it once during field day 2017. Included is the LVB tracker, alt-az rotor, and control box for the G5500. I?m asking $650 + real shipping cost (local pickup would obviously be easiest). If you can pick up locally, I also have rotor control cables made up and 2 M2 fiberglass arms for the antennas for $50 more. I?ll be at Hamcation in Orlando on Saturday, Feb 10 and can bring everything with me if anyone would like to pick it up there. Email me direct for photos and more info. - Matthew nj4y Sent from my iPhone From pconver at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 18:40:57 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:40:57 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Argentina PicoBallon on Indian Ocean Message-ID: PicoBallon launched 01/19 left South Africa, hopefully heading to India and Australia. Celebrating LUSAT 28th aniversary, LU1ESY-3 solar 25mW/25g WB8ELK's WSPR 14095.6 KHz Tracker is flying at 12Km height. Track: https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FLU1ESY-3&timerange=604800&tail=604800 and http://lu7aa.org/wspr.asp Pictures on http://amsat.org.ar/globo09.htm , tks! http://amsatsa.org.za/ Appreciate Antartica, South Africa and Namibia hams for WSPR captures & upload to http://wsprnet.org . 73, LU7AA, Amsat Argentina http://amsat.org.ar https://facebook.com/Amsat-LU From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon Jan 22 18:44:11 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:44:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Commissioning Update: HERCI Experiment and L-Band Downshifter Tested In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <620597383.557848.1516646651797@connect.xfinity.com> How often can we expect to have L band available? IC-910-10W 70 feet LMR 600 either 24 el looper or 16 turn RHCP helix > On January 21, 2018 at 7:48 AM Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > > An update on the AO-92 commissioning process has been posted at: > > https://www.amsat.org/ao-92-commissioning-update-herci-experiment-and-l-band-downshifter-tested/ > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon Jan 22 19:15:28 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:15:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] wx proof ant relay ideas Message-ID: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> Hi- I'm looking for ideas for wx proofing a tower mounted ant transfer relay for 1.2Ghz. I live in Washington, it rains here a "little". What have you done? 73 Bob W7LRD From paulopv8dx at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 20:59:18 2018 From: paulopv8dx at gmail.com (Paulo PV8DX) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:59:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Argentina PicoBallon on Indian Ocean In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B22267755AC4071B8CFA9EC3D5ADE9C@PauloPV8DX> Hi Pedro Sentational activity. Congratulations to the team. 73 de Paulo PV8DX LABRE - ARRL AMSAT member FJ92pt - VUCC SAT www.qrz.com/db/pv8dx ARISS contact 13/02/2014 Exp.37 http://www.labre-rr.org/ariss.html pv8dx at arrl.net Boa Vista-RR-Brasil -----Mensagem Original----- From: Pedro Converso Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:40 PM To: AMSAT Subject: [amsat-bb] Argentina PicoBallon on Indian Ocean PicoBallon launched 01/19 left South Africa, hopefully heading to India and Australia. Celebrating LUSAT 28th aniversary, LU1ESY-3 solar 25mW/25g WB8ELK's WSPR 14095.6 KHz Tracker is flying at 12Km height. Track: https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FLU1ESY-3&timerange=604800&tail=604800 and http://lu7aa.org/wspr.asp Pictures on http://amsat.org.ar/globo09.htm , tks! http://amsatsa.org.za/ Appreciate Antartica, South Africa and Namibia hams for WSPR captures & upload to http://wsprnet.org . 73, LU7AA, Amsat Argentina http://amsat.org.ar https://facebook.com/Amsat-LU _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kq6ea at verizon.net Mon Jan 22 19:57:48 2018 From: kq6ea at verizon.net (Jim Jerzycke) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:57:48 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] wx proof ant relay ideas In-Reply-To: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Get a Hubbell fiberglass enclosure from Grainger. I just got one to put my SGC-230 inside of for my 33' HF vertical. If you're on a tight budget, the small grey Tupperware tote boxes are quite durable outside. I had one up in SoCal with my 137MHz preamp in it for weather satellites, and when I took it down after two years, it was still flexible. 73, Jim? KQ6EA/0 On 1/22/2018 19:15, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > Hi- I'm looking for ideas for wx proofing a tower mounted ant transfer relay for 1.2Ghz. I live in Washington, it rains here a "little". What have you done? > > 73 Bob W7LRD > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n4kd at bellsouth.net Mon Jan 22 20:11:46 2018 From: n4kd at bellsouth.net (David Kuechenmeister) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] wx proof ant relay ideas In-Reply-To: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <3476373.2058051.1516651906129@mail.yahoo.com> Whenever I need to put electrical components outside and want them water and bug proofed, I use the gray Carlon boxes that are sold at big box stores and at electrical supply houses. For cable entries, I use a properly sized waterproof cable gland. Those are a little harder to find, but usually Digikey, Allied, or similar has them for order. Here's an?example. vy 73,Dave N4KD On Monday, January 22, 2018 2:15 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: Hi- I'm looking for ideas for wx proofing a tower mounted ant transfer relay for 1.2Ghz.? I live in Washington, it rains here a "little".? What have you done? 73 Bob W7LRD _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hamdan at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 22 20:44:15 2018 From: hamdan at ix.netcom.com (Bernie and Cheryl) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:44:15 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 91 Rumbling Noise Message-ID: <4bbd87a2-bf58-6993-9cff-72e1bb58ab37@ix.netcom.com> Dear Folks: Forgive me if someone has already discussed this, but I noticed a "rumbling" noise in the background during this morning's AO 91 pass.? What is that?? It almost sounds like a train is passing by.? It was not dependent on someone transmitting as it was present even while there was no one speaking.? But, it faded away as soon as the pass was over at my QTH. 73 de Bernie, KF0QS From kb2mjeff at att.net Mon Jan 22 21:06:11 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:06:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] L band transmit setup In-Reply-To: <1473551461.2418397.1516550300469@mail.yahoo.com> References: <00cd01d39237$fe885340$fb98f9c0$@bellsouth.net><331413996.2316074.1516538892887@mail.yahoo.com> <1473551461.2418397.1516550300469@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <089B2F18BF2A4C8593C28AED4C15246F@kb2m4PC> And I of course left my Alinco DJ-G7T at my summer home in NJ. So I said what the hey, I ordered a 1.2 gig module for my IC-9100, and a Comet CYA-1216e . I found the 1.2 gig antenna at R&L for $134, a new UX-9100 on Ebay shipped to me for a total of $412 from Japan. What a deal :-) 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:58 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org ; redski at bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] L band transmit setup Initial L-band testing (approximately a 16 deg eastern pass) indicated that it may not take as much power as initially thought to get into the L-band portion of AO-92. One op, N8HM was using an Alinco DJ-G7T handheld with 1 watt and a modified Comet CYA-1216e yagi (boom drilled to accept 2m elements from Arrow antenna. Feed line was 4' of LMR-240UF plus two adapters: BNC to SMA adapter for the HT and BNC to N adapter. Another op, N8TLV, was using an FT-104 hand held with 1 watt, fed into stock rubber duck antenna. Again, this was initial testing and represents my personal observations. I am not affiliated with AMSAT, other than being a member and enthusiastic satellite operator. The Comet CYA-1216e yagi, when combined with Arrow Antennas 2m elements, appears to be a popular antenna for portable operations. M2 Antennas, Directive Systems Engineering, and WiMo offer several antenna choices, depending if you need a tower-mounted antenna or something capable of being handheld. Shorter, high quality coax, with no adapters will always provide a better result. LMR240 or 240UF will be fine for shorter, hand-held runs, LMR400 for moder runs, and LMR600 + for longest runs. As for a preamp, it will depend on your setup. If you need a preamp to hear AO-91, then you will need one to hear AO-92. Hope this helps,73 de KE4AL, Robert EM71 On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 6:49:22 AM CST, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB wrote: I'll add that I'm interested in Antenna/feed setups being used by folks? Rob KA2CZU On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 4:49:03 PM EST, redski at bellsouth.net wrote: Can someone offer a little advice about the requirements for using the Fox L-band uplinks? I have an full duplex u/V and v/U satellite station so I'm guessing that my easiest route to L-band is an upconverter. But I've never used anything above UHF, so any thoughts on what might be needed to get started would be appreciated. 73, Red KC4LE --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com From rsoifer1 at aol.com Mon Jan 22 20:55:51 2018 From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (rsoifer1 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:55:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PY2BJO SK Message-ID: <1611fa7e2dd-1d70-4489@webjas-vaa195.srv.aolmail.net> Very sorry to learn about the passing of Junior Torres de Castro, PY2BJO. He was a good friend of many years' standing. 73 Ray W2RS From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 21:08:42 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:08:42 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 91 Rumbling Noise In-Reply-To: <4bbd87a2-bf58-6993-9cff-72e1bb58ab37@ix.netcom.com> References: <4bbd87a2-bf58-6993-9cff-72e1bb58ab37@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <000001d393c5$2f1b8750$8d5295f0$@gmail.com> Bernie, You are hearing the Data Under Voice telemetry. It is transmitted in the 0-200 Hz range where CTCSS tones are normally sent. Whether you hear it, and how much, depends on how sharply your rig cuts off the low frequencies. All the Fox spacecraft, except for the unlaunched Fox-1E, use it so as to provide telemetry while allowing repeater operations. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <1611fa7e2dd-1d70-4489@webjas-vaa195.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: R.I.P. http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/py2bjo.htm 73 de Paulo PS7/PV8DX Em 22 de jan de 2018 17:10, "rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB" escreveu: > Very sorry to learn about the passing of Junior Torres de Castro, PY2BJO. > He was a good friend of many years' standing. > > > 73 Ray W2RS > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From hamdan at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 22 21:45:58 2018 From: hamdan at ix.netcom.com (Bernie and Cheryl) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:45:58 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 91 Rumbling Noise In-Reply-To: <000001d393c5$2f1b8750$8d5295f0$@gmail.com> References: <4bbd87a2-bf58-6993-9cff-72e1bb58ab37@ix.netcom.com> <000001d393c5$2f1b8750$8d5295f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the replies, guys.? That explains it.? I'd just never heard it before on other FM birds. 73 de Bernie, KF0QS On 1/22/2018 2:08 PM, Alan wrote: > Bernie, > > You are hearing the Data Under Voice telemetry. It is transmitted in the 0-200 Hz range where CTCSS tones are normally sent. Whether you hear it, and how much, depends on how sharply your rig cuts off the low frequencies. All the Fox spacecraft, except for the unlaunched Fox-1E, use it so as to provide telemetry while allowing repeater operations. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > <-----Original Message----- > < > < > <"rumbling" noise in the background during this morning's AO 91 pass. > < > <73 de Bernie, KF0QS > < > <_______________________________________________ > > From djholman at u.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 19:54:19 2018 From: djholman at u.washington.edu (Darryl J. Holman) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:54:19 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] [PNWVHFS] wx proof ant relay ideas In-Reply-To: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <4487a796-b193-9e10-85ee-02e896623349@u.washington.edu> Bob, I use PVC water resistant junction boxes that have a gasket on the lid.?? They make them in a bunch of sizes, but here is an example: https://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Betts-E989NCAR-8X8X4-JUNCTION/dp/B00JV3F1LU/ These make a good starting point.? You'd want to add a drain hose and some water-resistant cable entry/strain relief fitting to the bottom. You can also find water-tight strain relief fittings for passing cables into the box, though these fittings are quite pricey: https://www.amazon.com/Sessons-LN43DA-CTN-Assembled-Straight-Fitting/dp/B00IOXHU9O Best, ? Darryl ? ww7d On 1/22/2018 11:15 AM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > > Hi- I'm looking for ideas for wx proofing a tower mounted ant transfer > relay for 1.2Ghz. I live in Washington, it rains here a "little".? > What have you done? > > 73 Bob W7LRD > > > > -- > ~The Voice of the Pacific NorthWest VHF Society~ > You are subscribed to the Google Groups "PNWVHFS" group. > To post to this group, send email to PNWVHFS at googlegroups.com > To read message history, visit http://groups.google.com/group/PNWVHFS > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "PNWVHFS" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to pnwvhfs+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon Jan 22 22:34:27 2018 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:34:27 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List Message-ID: <201801222234.w0MMYTmU010758@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> I have one of the "rare" DEMI 144/1268 converters; does 15w out. Not many were made/sold before AO-40 crashed. Also a 45 loop-yagi for 1268. I have a venerable FT736R (with only 2m/70cm) for satellite operation (future). But if the mode will be LV (1268up/145dn) I will have to use a different radio for either uplink or downlink as the FT736R does not do in-band duplex on 144. I have two other radios that will do 2m allmode but it gets more complicated for tuning. FT736R has satellite mode for 2m/70cm (probably one of the first to do that). If the mode will be LU then all is fine. I also still have my mode-S preamp and two Drake downconverters if ever that band is reactivated. PS: not QRV on satellites (yet) 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From ve3nxk at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 22:34:48 2018 From: ve3nxk at gmail.com (Bill Booth) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:34:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] wx proof ant relay ideas In-Reply-To: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <5A666708.7060107@gmail.com> On 2018-01-22 2:15 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > wx proofing a tower mounted ant transfer relay for 1.2Ghz I use a regular plastic power outlet box from the local electrical wholesaler or Home Depot. They are grey plastic with knockouts around the outside and come in various sizes. Most times I use a 6x6 inch box for that extra room. The coax/wiring goes thru the bottom and the rest is sealed. The cover has a gasket to seal with. -- Bill Booth VE3NXK Sundridge ON, Canada 79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N FN05ns Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/wxcurrent/weather.html Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life Talk to your family. Your decision can make a difference. From ke4al at yahoo.com Mon Jan 22 22:54:16 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List In-Reply-To: <201801222234.w0MMYTmU010758@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201801222234.w0MMYTmU010758@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <518900715.3399076.1516661656405@mail.yahoo.com> Ed, Fox-1D (AO-92) and Fox-1-Cliff will have two different modes U/v and L/v.? Switching between two different modes will be by AMSAT command.? In addition, AMSAT-UK will be launching their ESEO satellite this year; however, it will be L/v only, per their website.? I know of no plans for satellites in the L/u mode at this time. Fox-1D and Fox-1Cliff both utilize and L-band downshifter that uses the UHF antenna, so, by design, these two satellites, will not be capable of L/u mode. Your 1268-144 transverter is certainly rare.? I did see where you posted to the AMSAT BB back in 2010 about it, but did not find anything else in a quick Google search.? Cherish it. Certainly hope you can get your IF radio sorted out and able to get back on the birds.? I look forward to our first QSO. 73, Robert KE4AL On Monday, January 22, 2018, 4:41:06 PM CST, Edward R Cole wrote: I have one of the "rare" DEMI 144/1268 converters; does 15w out.? Not many were made/sold before AO-40 crashed.? Also a 45 loop-yagi for 1268. I have a venerable FT736R (with only 2m/70cm) for satellite operation (future).? But if the mode will be LV (1268up/145dn) I will have to use a different radio for either uplink or downlink as the FT736R does not do in-band duplex on 144.? I have two other radios that will do 2m allmode but it gets more complicated for tuning.? FT736R has satellite mode for 2m/70cm (probably one of the first to do that).? If the mode will be LU then all is fine. I also still have my mode-S preamp and two Drake downconverters if ever that band is reactivated. PS: not QRV on satellites (yet) 73, Ed - KL7UW ? http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: ? dubususa at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon Jan 22 23:15:00 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:15:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List In-Reply-To: <201801222234.w0MMYTmU010758@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201801222234.w0MMYTmU010758@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <540318589.581908.1516662900856@connect.xfinity.com> Hi Ed-I too have a box full of AO-40 (sobsob) S band stuff. Hoping against hope it will be useful. However with so much stuff using 2.4 I think it's not practical for us to be using it. I'm keeping the box, just in case. I would like to see a discussion regarding the use of S band for our satellites. Anyone? 73 Bob W7LRD > On January 22, 2018 at 2:34 PM Edward R Cole wrote: > > > I have one of the "rare" DEMI 144/1268 converters; does 15w out. Not > many were made/sold before AO-40 crashed. Also a 45 loop-yagi for 1268. > > I have a venerable FT736R (with only 2m/70cm) for satellite operation > (future). But if the mode will be LV (1268up/145dn) I will have to > use a different radio for either uplink or downlink as the FT736R > does not do in-band duplex on 144. I have two other radios that will > do 2m allmode but it gets more complicated for tuning. FT736R has > satellite mode for 2m/70cm (probably one of the first to do > that). If the mode will be LU then all is fine. > > I also still have my mode-S preamp and two Drake downconverters if > ever that band is reactivated. > > PS: not QRV on satellites (yet) > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > Dubus-NA Business mail: > dubususa at gmail.com mailto:dubususa at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From af5cc2 at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 23:22:57 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:22:57 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List In-Reply-To: <201801222234.w0MMYTmU010758@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201801222234.w0MMYTmU010758@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: Right now Ham Radio Outlet (www.hamradio.com) has a Yaesu FT736R with the 6 meter module and the 23cm module on their consignment list for $1000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > I have one of the "rare" DEMI 144/1268 converters; does 15w out. Not many > were made/sold before AO-40 crashed. Also a 45 loop-yagi for 1268. > > I have a venerable FT736R (with only 2m/70cm) for satellite operation > (future). But if the mode will be LV (1268up/145dn) I will have to use a > different radio for either uplink or downlink as the FT736R does not do > in-band duplex on 144. I have two other radios that will do 2m allmode but > it gets more complicated for tuning. FT736R has satellite mode for 2m/70cm > (probably one of the first to do that). If the mode will be LU then all is > fine. > > I also still have my mode-S preamp and two Drake downconverters if ever > that band is reactivated. > > PS: not QRV on satellites (yet) > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > Dubus-NA Business mail: > dubususa at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k7trkradio at charter.net Mon Jan 22 23:44:44 2018 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:44:44 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] wx proof ant relay ideas In-Reply-To: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <00a801d393da$fb9bed50$f2d3c7f0$@charter.net> 'tupper ware' style box and waterproof conduit fittings from Home Depot ?? (w/drain hole to release moisture) 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 11:15 AM To: amsat-bb; pnwvhfs Subject: [amsat-bb] wx proof ant relay ideas Hi- I'm looking for ideas for wx proofing a tower mounted ant transfer relay for 1.2Ghz. I live in Washington, it rains here a "little". What have you done? 73 Bob W7LRD _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From normanlizeth at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 01:40:21 2018 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:40:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] wx proof ant relay ideas In-Reply-To: <00a801d393da$fb9bed50$f2d3c7f0$@charter.net> References: <1963368822.558870.1516648529197@connect.xfinity.com> <00a801d393da$fb9bed50$f2d3c7f0$@charter.net> Message-ID: Upside down 5 gallon pail. Build a bracket to go on the side of the tower with unistrut (from your fave retailer). A vertical support panel attaches to this. Whatever needs to stay dry gets screwed to it. Over the whole mess goes the bucket. Positioned under is the lid. Coax gets routed up through the lid to your device. Much more difficult to describe than build. Cost is par with a plastic box assuming first class build with stainless hardware. Can be done el cheapo with materials on hand. Lived in that horrible climate, Florida for 7 years. This method was a winner. Tried others with varying degrees of success. Norm n3ykf On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Ted wrote: > 'tupper ware' style box and waterproof conduit fittings from Home Depot ?? > (w/drain hole to release moisture) > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 11:15 AM > To: amsat-bb; pnwvhfs > Subject: [amsat-bb] wx proof ant relay ideas > > Hi- I'm looking for ideas for wx proofing a tower mounted ant transfer relay > for 1.2Ghz. I live in Washington, it rains here a "little". What have you > done? > > 73 Bob W7LRD > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From anderson58625 at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 02:03:32 2018 From: anderson58625 at gmail.com (anderson58625) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:03:32 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a potential pun (eye of the beholder!) . Sorry for that. I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or assembled cables) which I will regret later. I am hoping to get some guidance regarding coax for: 1) IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) 2) 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') 3) 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') 4) A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies (>1GHz) The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm not sure I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable brand/types. With the variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, and potential proprietary crimping systems, etc., I don't have enough experience or information to confidently make an online materials order. Things were much easier down here with just HF frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) PL-259's! For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable type/loss at 1-3' isn't very important. But, there is also shielding: A consideration? . Any thoughts on IF cables? . Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable. Easy? Avoid it? . Plan on a new crimper/die? . Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any quality sources to recommend? For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a consideration on rotating/elevating masts. Of course, I'm sure a rigid feedline may be superior elsewhere, but I am not at that point yet. Still, advice on that subject is gratefully appreciated. I need to provide good questions to hope for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: . Reasonable flexibility/portability . 2m-23cm . Modest power . <50' . For use with n-connectors The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. 73 Mark W9AT From normanlizeth at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 03:02:48 2018 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:02:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mark, Belden 9913F7 with "clamp" (hand assembled) N connectors would work for your feedline. If you go this route, MAKE SURE THAT THE CONNECTOR HAS THE PROPER CENTER PIN FOR 'F7. RG-142 and hand assembled BNC's would work for the gear interconnect jumpers. Look on the bay for real Amp connectors. They are cheaper here than at an online vendor. Finding the right connectors at a hamfest can be iffy. RG-142 can be had cheaply on the bay as well. Higher freqs are best handled by hardline. Small pieces are available and new, OEM (surplus) connectors are available at reasonable cost. Closely following the spec sheet for the connector that you're assembling is critical. I use a copy of the MIL348 standard (for free, available online) for the dimensions. There's only one that matters, really for us. How far is the pin recessed. Get that wrong and the pin will "tulip" the prongs of the female or not make proper contact, trashing the connectors, your work and introducing a point of failure. An el cheapo pair of digital calipers (use the depth gauge on the tongue end) will make short work of this. Razor blade and sharp scissors make short work of cable prep. A cassette stripper can help, but I have found is not a one size fits all fix. If the sickness bites, a crimper set is a good investment. Making custom cables for portable gear is a snap. I usually carry a few clamp connectors in case of failure in the field. Norm n3ykf On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:03 PM, anderson58625 wrote: > Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a potential > pun (eye of the beholder!) . Sorry for that. > > > > I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or assembled > cables) which I will regret later. I am hoping to get some guidance > regarding coax for: > > 1) IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) > > 2) 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') > > 3) 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') > > 4) A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies > (>1GHz) > > > > The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm not sure > I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable brand/types. With the > variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, and potential proprietary > crimping systems, etc., I don't have enough experience or information to > confidently make an online materials order. Things were much easier down > here with just HF frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) > PL-259's! > > > > For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable type/loss > at 1-3' isn't very important. But, there is also shielding: A > consideration? > > . Any thoughts on IF cables? > > . Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable. Easy? Avoid it? > > . Plan on a new crimper/die? > > . Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any > quality sources to recommend? > > > > For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a consideration on > rotating/elevating masts. Of course, I'm sure a rigid feedline may be > superior elsewhere, but I am not at that point yet. Still, advice on that > subject is gratefully appreciated. I need to provide good questions to hope > for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: > > . Reasonable flexibility/portability > > . 2m-23cm > > . Modest power > > . <50' > > . For use with n-connectors > > > > The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. > > > > 73 > > > > Mark W9AT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w1pa at hotmail.com Mon Jan 22 18:32:05 2018 From: w1pa at hotmail.com (Bill Acito) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:32:05 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List Message-ID: If someone puts this into a list, they should be very clear where a radio requires an optional module (e.g. The? UT-10 for the TS-790 is nearly un-obtainium). Also, Didn't I see in passing that testing the L-band uplink indicated that the radios really should have 5khz tuning steps? Not all of these rigs can do that. Bill W1PA From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Jan 23 04:06:52 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:06:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: More experience is necessary to see just how much of a handicap 10 kHz steps are, but both VE4AMU and KE4AL made QSOs using Kenwood mobiles limited to 10 kHz steps during the open testing pass over North America. Of course, if you're too far off frequency to get in due to the limited steps, you won't have to wait long to be back in! In a 500 km orbit, that Doppler shift is fast! I understand some older 23 cm radios are limited to 25 kHz steps. You would likely be very handicapped trying to use one of those. It's an important issue to research when making a purchasing decision. I was impressed with the performance of my Alinco DJ-G7T 1 watt HT on TX. It's just too bad the RX is almost useless for satellite operations! 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Bill Acito wrote: > If someone puts this into a list, they should be very clear where a > radio requires an optional module (e.g. The UT-10 for the TS-790 is > nearly un-obtainium). > > Also, Didn't I see in passing that testing the L-band uplink indicated > that the radios really should have 5khz tuning steps? Not all of these > rigs can do that. > > Bill W1PA > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Tue Jan 23 05:37:22 2018 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:37:22 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] L-Band Equipment List In-Reply-To: References: <201801222234.w0MMYTmU010758@mail47c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <201801230537.w0N5bObW030368@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Thanks for all the comments. Back in 1998 I bought the new FT-847 just before AO-40 launch. I was also getting into eme starting on 2m. The 847 worked very nice for satellite operation and eme and I kept it for 14 years. Note: I was AL7EB until 2005. But in 2010 I decided using a better HF radio with good transverters was a better way to do eme so I bought a K3 and DEMI transverters for 144/222/432/1296/3456. I already had a 10368/144 DEMI transverter. Subsequent to selling the FT-847 in 2012, I missed having full use of the 430-450 band and decided after quite a lot of searching new dual-band FM radios that finding a substitute for the old 847 made more sense. A local ham up here in AK had three FT-736R's so I convinced him to sell me one that had the basic VHF/UHF bands for $500. Interestingly, that got me a good old satellite radio in addition with all-mode on both bands. I had two other radios with 6m and transverters for 222 and 1296 so did not need to get those modules for the 736R. Since then I sold the DEMI 222/28 and bought a 222 30w FM transceiver (no SSB in use on 222 up here). My DEMI 432/28 has been idle with having the FT-736R. But it might still get some use as I installed dual LO's (locking PLL) to cover 432-434 and 435-437 MHz. I can do 144-MHz with the K3+DEMI or with my KX3-2M; probably use either on Rx and use the 736R with DEMI 144/1268 to Tx. But first step will be getting the 736R back on satellite U/V using my old AO-40 az-el tracking antennas. Probably get around to that in Feb. so you may hear another Alaskan on the sats "pretty soon". 73, Ed - KL7UW PS: I am on eme for 6m/2m/23cm and by next summer 9cm. Also collecting parts to do 3cm-eme (eme took over my interests after AO-40). At 02:22 PM 1/22/2018, John Geiger wrote: >Right now Ham Radio Outlet >(www.hamradio.com) has a Yaesu FT736R with >the 6 meter module and the 23cm module on their consignment list for $1000 > 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From w7lrd at comcast.net Tue Jan 23 07:46:15 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:46:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400. LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside. Unless coax connectors are super sealed. 73 Bob W7LRD > On January 22, 2018 at 6:03 PM anderson58625 wrote: > > > Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a potential > pun (eye of the beholder!) . Sorry for that. > > > > I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or assembled > cables) which I will regret later. I am hoping to get some guidance > regarding coax for: > > 1) IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) > > 2) 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') > > 3) 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') > > 4) A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies > (>1GHz) > > > > The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm not sure > I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable brand/types. With the > variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, and potential proprietary > crimping systems, etc., I don't have enough experience or information to > confidently make an online materials order. Things were much easier down > here with just HF frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) > PL-259's! > > > > For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable type/loss > at 1-3' isn't very important. But, there is also shielding: A > consideration? > > . Any thoughts on IF cables? > > . Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable. Easy? Avoid it? > > . Plan on a new crimper/die? > > . Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any > quality sources to recommend? > > > > For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a consideration on > rotating/elevating masts. Of course, I'm sure a rigid feedline may be > superior elsewhere, but I am not at that point yet. Still, advice on that > subject is gratefully appreciated. I need to provide good questions to hope > for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: > > . Reasonable flexibility/portability > > . 2m-23cm > > . Modest power > > . <50' > > . For use with n-connectors > > > > The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. > > > > 73 > > > > Mark W9AT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Tue Jan 23 08:29:42 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 03:29:42 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-23 06:00 UTC Message-ID: <16122231fcd-1721-86980@webjas-vab048.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-23 06:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Naka Junior High School, Kakamigahara City, Japan, direct via 8J25D The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact was successful: Mon 2018-01-22 10:23:21 UTC 53 deg (***) ? The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-24 10:35:45 UTC 56 deg ? Watch for live stream at www.cyhams.org/ariss.html ? Central Magnet Math & Science ES/Batesville School District, Batesville, AR, telebridge, via ON4ISS? (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Joe Acaba KE5DAR (***) Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-31 18:18:30 UTC 80 deg (***) ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128 (***) Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-01-23 06:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1203. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1152. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas,?Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-23 06:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR ? Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Tue Jan 23 12:48:31 2018 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <109407170.210095.1516711711265@mail.yahoo.com> The question, really, is what feedline is best for 23cm?It also would matter if one is working fixed vs. portable, of course, due to the different feedline lengths, LMR-400 is great for 2 and 70cm, of course. Rob KA2CZU On Tuesday, January 23, 2018, 2:48:00 AM EST, Bob- W7LRD wrote: For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400.? LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside.? Unless coax connectors are super sealed.? 73 Bob W7LRD > On January 22, 2018 at 6:03 PM anderson58625 wrote: > > > Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a potential > pun (eye of the beholder!) .? Sorry for that. > >? > > I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or assembled > cables) which I will regret later.? I am hoping to get some guidance > regarding coax for: > > 1)? ? ? IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) > > 2)? ? ? 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') > > 3)? ? ? 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') > > 4)? ? ? A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies > (>1GHz) > >? > > The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm not sure > I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable brand/types.? With the > variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, and potential proprietary > crimping systems, etc., I don't have enough experience or information to > confidently make an online materials order.? Things were much easier down > here with just HF frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) > PL-259's! > >? > > For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable type/loss > at 1-3' isn't very important.? But, there is also shielding:? A > consideration? > > .? ? ? Any thoughts on IF cables?? > > .? ? ? Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable.? Easy?? Avoid it?? > > .? ? ? Plan on a new crimper/die?? > > .? ? ? Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any > quality sources to recommend? > >? > > For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a consideration on > rotating/elevating masts.? Of course, I'm sure a rigid feedline may be > superior elsewhere, but I am not at that point yet.? Still, advice on that > subject is gratefully appreciated.? I need to provide good questions to hope > for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: > > .? ? ? Reasonable flexibility/portability > > .? ? ? 2m-23cm > > .? ? ? Modest power > > .? ? ? <50' > > .? ? ? For use with n-connectors > >? > > The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. > >? > > 73 > >? > > Mark W9AT > >? > >? > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From quadpugh at bellsouth.net Tue Jan 23 14:28:26 2018 From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:28:26 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] fox 1b Message-ID: <006901d39456$6edcaa90$4c95ffb0$@bellsouth.net> I have downloaded fox telem however I can find the fox ib file I see 1 1c and 1d file Suggestions? nick Cell 337 258 2527 Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School Disagree I Learn From royldean at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 14:44:59 2018 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:44:59 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] fox 1b Message-ID: "RadFxSat" -Roy K3RLD > I have downloaded fox telem however I can find the fox ib file I see 1 1c > and 1d file Suggestions? From db at db.net Tue Jan 23 14:37:13 2018 From: db at db.net (Diane Bruce) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:37:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <20180123143713.GA13196@night.db.net> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:46:15PM -0800, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400. LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside. Unless coax connectors are super sealed. It's probably impossible to keep water from inside due to condensation. That said, the more recent 9913 is supposed to be easier to keep dry. I once saw on the web an enterprising university club station that rigged up a dry air pump for their 9913 run. ;) LMR is far better IMO as well. > 73 Bob W7LRD 73 Diane VA3DB -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db From ka1rrw at yahoo.com Tue Jan 23 15:01:35 2018 From: ka1rrw at yahoo.com (Miles (WF1F)) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 10:01:35 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5A674E4F.40501@yahoo.com> I just use "LMR" Super-flex cable for everything. For short runs in a car 15-20 feet, I use LMR-240 Super-flex. Its 0.240 in diameter and has measurably less loss at 20 feet (400 mc and higher) than typical 0.195" coax. In the Shack: For HF, I use LMR-500 flexible with runs up to 200 feet. It can handle full legal limit without melting. For VHF and UHF runs of 100' or less, I use LMR-600 Super-flex. It is flexible enough to go around a rotor. Normal RG-8 coax is 0.405 inches in diameter. LMR 600 is 0.600 inches in diameter. The Greater the diameter, the lower the loss. Its not the Name stamped on the cable that's important, it is the diameter of the cable. All 405 cable will have similar losses. It does not matter if its a 1$ per foot or 20$ per foot, 405 cable will have similar losses. If you need less loss, go with thicker cable or hardline. The loss with 600 is so much lower than 405 cable, i just do not count DB 's any more. Also, avoid splices, etc. WF1F On 1/22/2018 9:03 PM, anderson58625 wrote: > Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a potential > pun (eye of the beholder!) . Sorry for that. > > > > I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or assembled > cables) which I will regret later. I am hoping to get some guidance > regarding coax for: > > 1) IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) > > 2) 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') > > 3) 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') > > 4) A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies > (>1GHz) > > > > The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm not sure > I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable brand/types. With the > variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, and potential proprietary > crimping systems, etc., I don't have enough experience or information to > confidently make an online materials order. Things were much easier down > here with just HF frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) > PL-259's! > > > > For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable type/loss > at 1-3' isn't very important. But, there is also shielding: A > consideration? > > . Any thoughts on IF cables? > > . Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable. Easy? Avoid it? > > . Plan on a new crimper/die? > > . Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any > quality sources to recommend? > > > > For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a consideration on > rotating/elevating masts. Of course, I'm sure a rigid feedline may be > superior elsewhere, but I am not at that point yet. Still, advice on that > subject is gratefully appreciated. I need to provide good questions to hope > for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: > > . Reasonable flexibility/portability > > . 2m-23cm > > . Modest power > > . <50' > > . For use with n-connectors > > > > The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. > > > > 73 > > > > Mark W9AT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jan 23 15:21:38 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 10:21:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] fox 1b In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In fact to make Keplerian element downloads work, the three satellites A, B, and D have to be named AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92. On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Roy Dean wrote: > "RadFxSat" > > -Roy > K3RLD > > > > I have downloaded fox telem however I can find the fox ib file I see 1 1c > > and 1d file Suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From quadpugh at bellsouth.net Tue Jan 23 16:02:21 2018 From: quadpugh at bellsouth.net (Nick Pugh) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 10:02:21 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] fox 1b In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008f01d39463$8de821f0$a9b865d0$@bellsouth.net> Hello Burns I got the Kepts what I am looking for is the fox 1 b config file for foxtelem nick Cell????? 337 258 2527 ? Helping UL become a world Class Engineering ?and Educational School Disagree I Learn -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Burns Fisher Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:22 AM To: Roy Dean Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] fox 1b In fact to make Keplerian element downloads work, the three satellites A, B, and D have to be named AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92. On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Roy Dean wrote: > "RadFxSat" > > -Roy > K3RLD > > > > I have downloaded fox telem however I can find the fox ib file I see > > 1 1c and 1d file Suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From zmetzing at pobox.com Tue Jan 23 16:09:03 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 10:09:03 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 91 Rumbling Noise In-Reply-To: References: <4bbd87a2-bf58-6993-9cff-72e1bb58ab37@ix.netcom.com> <000001d393c5$2f1b8750$8d5295f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0defb9f7-7882-4113-4129-96637b8d5664@pobox.com> On 01/22/18 15:45, Bernie and Cheryl wrote: > Thanks for the replies, guys. That explains it. I'd just never heard > it before on other FM birds. > > 73 de Bernie, KF0QS > > > On 1/22/2018 2:08 PM, Alan wrote: >> Bernie, >> >> You are hearing the Data Under Voice telemetry. It is transmitted in >> <-----Original Message----- >> > > <"rumbling" noise in the background during this morning's AO 91 pass. >> References: <008f01d39463$8de821f0$a9b865d0$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Is it not in the "spacecraft" folder listed as "radfxsat"? --Roy K3RLD On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Nick Pugh wrote: > Hello Burns > > I got the Kepts what I am looking for is the fox 1 b config file for > foxtelem > > > > > > > > > nick > > From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jan 23 16:37:17 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:37:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] fox 1b In-Reply-To: References: <008f01d39463$8de821f0$a9b865d0$@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Yes, it's kind of mix and match. The keps are put into FOX2.TLE. They are taken from nasabare.txt where it looks for the name that is on spacecraft tab (Input, AO-92, AO-91) etc. And the description file, also in the spacecraft directory is called RadFxSat_fm.dat. So it is the .dat file that you are missing Nick? What IS in the spacecraft directory? What version of FoxTelem? Are you running it for the first time? Are you giving it a data directory in the command line? Can you just delete that whole spacecraft directory and start over? It should offer to copy a new set of s/c files for you. If all this does not help, you may have to contact Chris. On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Roy Dean wrote: > Is it not in the "spacecraft" folder listed as "radfxsat"? > > --Roy > K3RLD > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Nick Pugh > wrote: > > > Hello Burns > > > > I got the Kepts what I am looking for is the fox 1 b config file for > > foxtelem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nick > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 17:33:40 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:33:40 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> I've got hardline for my 60' runs on 70cm, and 1.2 ghz. Really works a LOT better than 9913, especially with the water problems. Besides at the connectors, the local squirrel population likes to gnaw at stuff, and all it takes is one small chew to ruin the entire run. With "regular" (solid innards) coax, the wound can be taped over with electrical tape, since they don't seem to like the braid. Even the smallest nick in 9913 will eventually be fatal. Greg KO6TH Bob- W7LRD wrote: > For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400. LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside. Unless coax connectors are super sealed. > 73 Bob W7LRD > >> On January 22, 2018 at 6:03 PM anderson58625 wrote: >> >> >> Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a potential >> pun (eye of the beholder!) . Sorry for that. >> >> >> >> I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or assembled >> cables) which I will regret later. I am hoping to get some guidance >> regarding coax for: >> >> 1) IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) >> >> 2) 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') >> >> 3) 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') >> >> 4) A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies >> (>1GHz) >> >> >> >> The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm not sure >> I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable brand/types. With the >> variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, and potential proprietary >> crimping systems, etc., I don't have enough experience or information to >> confidently make an online materials order. Things were much easier down >> here with just HF frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) >> PL-259's! >> >> >> >> For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable type/loss >> at 1-3' isn't very important. But, there is also shielding: A >> consideration? >> >> . Any thoughts on IF cables? >> >> . Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable. Easy? Avoid it? >> >> . Plan on a new crimper/die? >> >> . Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any >> quality sources to recommend? >> >> >> >> For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a consideration on >> rotating/elevating masts. Of course, I'm sure a rigid feedline may be >> superior elsewhere, but I am not at that point yet. Still, advice on that >> subject is gratefully appreciated. I need to provide good questions to hope >> for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: >> >> . Reasonable flexibility/portability >> >> . 2m-23cm >> >> . Modest power >> >> . <50' >> >> . For use with n-connectors >> >> >> >> The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> Mark W9AT >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From normanlizeth at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 19:09:23 2018 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:09:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> Message-ID: 9913 is not 9913F7 Google is your friend, or perhaps if one is lazy, not. Norm n3ykf On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Greg D wrote: > I've got hardline for my 60' runs on 70cm, and 1.2 ghz. Really works a > LOT better than 9913, especially with the water problems. Besides at > the connectors, the local squirrel population likes to gnaw at stuff, > and all it takes is one small chew to ruin the entire run. With > "regular" (solid innards) coax, the wound can be taped over with > electrical tape, since they don't seem to like the braid. Even the > smallest nick in 9913 will eventually be fatal. > > Greg KO6TH > > > Bob- W7LRD wrote: >> For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400. LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside. Unless coax connectors are super sealed. >> 73 Bob W7LRD >> >>> On January 22, 2018 at 6:03 PM anderson58625 wrote: >>> >>> >>> Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a potential >>> pun (eye of the beholder!) . Sorry for that. >>> >>> >>> >>> I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or assembled >>> cables) which I will regret later. I am hoping to get some guidance >>> regarding coax for: >>> >>> 1) IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) >>> >>> 2) 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') >>> >>> 3) 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') >>> >>> 4) A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies >>> (>1GHz) >>> >>> >>> >>> The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm not sure >>> I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable brand/types. With the >>> variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, and potential proprietary >>> crimping systems, etc., I don't have enough experience or information to >>> confidently make an online materials order. Things were much easier down >>> here with just HF frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) >>> PL-259's! >>> >>> >>> >>> For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable type/loss >>> at 1-3' isn't very important. But, there is also shielding: A >>> consideration? >>> >>> . Any thoughts on IF cables? >>> >>> . Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable. Easy? Avoid it? >>> >>> . Plan on a new crimper/die? >>> >>> . Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any >>> quality sources to recommend? >>> >>> >>> >>> For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a consideration on >>> rotating/elevating masts. Of course, I'm sure a rigid feedline may be >>> superior elsewhere, but I am not at that point yet. Still, advice on that >>> subject is gratefully appreciated. I need to provide good questions to hope >>> for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: >>> >>> . Reasonable flexibility/portability >>> >>> . 2m-23cm >>> >>> . Modest power >>> >>> . <50' >>> >>> . For use with n-connectors >>> >>> >>> >>> The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark W9AT >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Tue Jan 23 20:36:01 2018 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:36:01 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com><992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com><6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> 9913F7 has nearly 10 dB attenuation/100 feet at 400 MHz. 9913 has about 2.6 dB. https://edesk.belden.com/products/techdata/metric/pdf/9913F7.pdf https://catalog.belden.com/techdata/EN/9913_techdata.pdf I know which I'd choose. -----Original Message----- From: Norm n3ykf Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:09 PM To: Greg D Cc: <, amsat-bb at amsat.org>, ; anderson58625 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax 9913 is not 9913F7 Google is your friend, or perhaps if one is lazy, not. Norm n3ykf Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 20:51:31 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:51:31 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> Message-ID: <618cf1c1-3950-8b88-f3ca-f7c637723467@gmail.com> Ok, fair enough. F7 is different than the original 9913, and that is an important distinction. Bob's comment (which I quoted) was about the original 9913. The F7 variety shouldn't be as susceptible to water, but then it also isn't quite as good as (dry) 9913 or LMR-400. But to the original question, which included a point about covering microwave bands, none of the RG-8-ish type cables are appropriate for more than a few feet on those bands. Except for the short flexible portion around the rotor, LMR-600 or hardline is needed, or mount a weather proof transverter up on the tower to shorten the microwave portion of the feed. I still use a higher-grade cable for UHF, as my run is over 60' from rig to antenna. Below that, it's more a matter of availability and cost. Just don't go with the really skinny stuff (RG-58 or RG-8X), because of both higher loss and lower power handling capability. A good comparison table I found is here: https://mapleleafcom.com/PDFs_Downloads/CoaxLossChart.pdf Greg KO6TH Norm n3ykf wrote: > 9913 is not 9913F7 > > Google is your friend, or perhaps if one is lazy, not. > > Norm n3ykf > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Greg D wrote: >> I've got hardline for my 60' runs on 70cm, and 1.2 ghz. Really works a >> LOT better than 9913, especially with the water problems. Besides at >> the connectors, the local squirrel population likes to gnaw at stuff, >> and all it takes is one small chew to ruin the entire run. With >> "regular" (solid innards) coax, the wound can be taped over with >> electrical tape, since they don't seem to like the braid. Even the >> smallest nick in 9913 will eventually be fatal. >> >> Greg KO6TH >> >> >> Bob- W7LRD wrote: >>> For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400. LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside. Unless coax connectors are super sealed. >>> 73 Bob W7LRD >>> >>>> On January 22, 2018 at 6:03 PM anderson58625 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a potential >>>> pun (eye of the beholder!) . Sorry for that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or assembled >>>> cables) which I will regret later. I am hoping to get some guidance >>>> regarding coax for: >>>> >>>> 1) IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) >>>> >>>> 2) 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') >>>> >>>> 3) 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') >>>> >>>> 4) A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies >>>> (>1GHz) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm not sure >>>> I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable brand/types. With the >>>> variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, and potential proprietary >>>> crimping systems, etc., I don't have enough experience or information to >>>> confidently make an online materials order. Things were much easier down >>>> here with just HF frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) >>>> PL-259's! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable type/loss >>>> at 1-3' isn't very important. But, there is also shielding: A >>>> consideration? >>>> >>>> . Any thoughts on IF cables? >>>> >>>> . Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable. Easy? Avoid it? >>>> >>>> . Plan on a new crimper/die? >>>> >>>> . Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any >>>> quality sources to recommend? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a consideration on >>>> rotating/elevating masts. Of course, I'm sure a rigid feedline may be >>>> superior elsewhere, but I am not at that point yet. Still, advice on that >>>> subject is gratefully appreciated. I need to provide good questions to hope >>>> for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: >>>> >>>> . Reasonable flexibility/portability >>>> >>>> . 2m-23cm >>>> >>>> . Modest power >>>> >>>> . <50' >>>> >>>> . For use with n-connectors >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark W9AT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 21:03:06 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:03:06 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> Message-ID: Yes, but wet 9913 has a loss of ? While searching for some hardline to replace my 9913 run some years ago, I resorted to drilling a hole in the bottom end of the cable, and sucking out the water periodically with a syringe. It was not an insignificant amount, and made a huge difference. Eventually found someone with some leftover LDF4-50A hardline, and made a swap with him for a UHF beam antenna I had extra. Best deal on the planet. If you can truly keep your 9913 dry inside, by all means, go for it. But how do you know it's still dry? To me, it's not worth the trouble. If you like that size cable, I'd go with LMR-400 instead of either variety of 9913. Greg KO6TH Glenn Miller - AA5PK wrote: > 9913F7 has nearly 10 dB attenuation/100 feet at 400 MHz. 9913 has > about 2.6 dB. > > https://edesk.belden.com/products/techdata/metric/pdf/9913F7.pdf > https://catalog.belden.com/techdata/EN/9913_techdata.pdf > > I know which I'd choose. > > -----Original Message----- From: Norm n3ykf Sent: Tuesday, January 23, > 2018 1:09 PM To: Greg D Cc: <, amsat-bb at amsat.org>, ; > anderson58625 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax > 9913 is not 9913F7 > > Google is your friend, or perhaps if one is lazy, not. > > Norm n3ykf > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 21:03:08 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 15:03:08 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com><992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com><6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> Message-ID: <000b01d3948d$9271fdc0$b755f940$@gmail.com> The first link is for dB per 100 meters. The second link is for dB per 100 feet, and gives 2.6 dB. nominal. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> Message-ID: <394188853.575366.1516743359153@connect.xfinity.com> Some years ago I had some 9913, well sealed (so I thought). Gradually the swr crept up. Without a thought, it got trashed and was replaced with LMR 400. Yes the idea of syringing water out of 9913 can work, also a constant blower blowing into the 9913 can work, we can also insert small sponges into the 9913 and replace them when necessary, or we can have the 9913 running down hill the whole way so the water can drip out (makes for a wet ham shack), or we can build a roof over the 9913 to keep it out of the moisture. I could go on and on and I am sure many of you have even more creative ideas! Am I being facetious? Of course I am! Hams can be "cheap" bunch but there is place where a few extra bucks is money well spent. Anything above 70cm I use LMR600. Just having fun today! 73 Bob W7LRD > On January 23, 2018 at 1:03 PM Greg D wrote: > > > Yes, but wet 9913 has a loss of ? > > While searching for some hardline to replace my 9913 run some years ago, > I resorted to drilling a hole in the bottom end of the cable, and > sucking out the water periodically with a syringe. It was not an > insignificant amount, and made a huge difference. Eventually found > someone with some leftover LDF4-50A hardline, and made a swap with him > for a UHF beam antenna I had extra. Best deal on the planet. > > If you can truly keep your 9913 dry inside, by all means, go for it. > But how do you know it's still dry? To me, it's not worth the trouble. > If you like that size cable, I'd go with LMR-400 instead of either > variety of 9913. > > Greg KO6TH > > > Glenn Miller - AA5PK wrote: > > > > 9913F7 has nearly 10 dB attenuation/100 feet at 400 MHz. 9913 has > > about 2.6 dB. > > > > https://edesk.belden.com/products/techdata/metric/pdf/9913F7.pdf > > https://catalog.belden.com/techdata/EN/9913_techdata.pdf > > > > I know which I'd choose. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Norm n3ykf Sent: Tuesday, January 23, > > 2018 1:09 PM To: Greg D Cc: <, amsat-bb at amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org >, ; > > anderson58625 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax > > 9913 is not 9913F7 > > > > Google is your friend, or perhaps if one is lazy, not. > > > > Norm n3ykf > > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > > of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From burns at fisher.cc Tue Jan 23 22:00:28 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:00:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <394188853.575366.1516743359153@connect.xfinity.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> <394188853.575366.1516743359153@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: You know how the phone company used to keep paper-insulate thousand (or whatever) conductor, lead sheath cables dry inside? Dry nitrogen pumped in from the central office, and extra bottles soldered in when leaks were found :-) On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > Some years ago I had some 9913, well sealed (so I thought). Gradually the > swr crept up. Without a thought, it got trashed and was replaced with LMR > 400. Yes the idea of syringing water out of 9913 can work, also a constant > blower blowing into the 9913 can work, we can also insert small sponges > into the 9913 and replace them when necessary, or we can have the 9913 > running down hill the whole way so the water can drip out (makes for a wet > ham shack), or we can build a roof over the 9913 to keep it out of the > moisture. I could go on and on and I am sure many of you have even more > creative ideas! Am I being facetious? Of course I am! Hams can be > "cheap" bunch but there is place where a few extra bucks is money well > spent. Anything above 70cm I use LMR600. Just having fun today! > > 73 Bob W7LRD > > > On January 23, 2018 at 1:03 PM Greg D wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but wet 9913 has a loss of ? > > > > While searching for some hardline to replace my 9913 run some years > ago, > > I resorted to drilling a hole in the bottom end of the cable, and > > sucking out the water periodically with a syringe. It was not an > > insignificant amount, and made a huge difference. Eventually found > > someone with some leftover LDF4-50A hardline, and made a swap with > him > > for a UHF beam antenna I had extra. Best deal on the planet. > > > > If you can truly keep your 9913 dry inside, by all means, go for it. > > But how do you know it's still dry? To me, it's not worth the > trouble. > > If you like that size cable, I'd go with LMR-400 instead of either > > variety of 9913. > > > > Greg KO6TH > > > > > > Glenn Miller - AA5PK wrote: > > > > > > 9913F7 has nearly 10 dB attenuation/100 feet at 400 MHz. > 9913 has > > > about 2.6 dB. > > > > > > https://edesk.belden.com/products/techdata/metric/pdf/ > 9913F7.pdf > > > https://catalog.belden.com/techdata/EN/9913_techdata.pdf > > > > > > I know which I'd choose. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Norm n3ykf Sent: Tuesday, > January 23, > > > 2018 1:09 PM To: Greg D Cc: <, amsat-bb at amsat.org mailto: > amsat-bb at amsat.org >, ; > > > anderson58625 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax > > > 9913 is not 9913F7 > > > > > > Google is your friend, or perhaps if one is lazy, not. > > > > > > Norm n3ykf > > > > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > membership. > > > Opinions expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views > > > of AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite > > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA > makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n6jsx at yahoo.com Tue Jan 23 22:10:47 2018 From: n6jsx at yahoo.com (Dale Kubichek) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps accuracy References: <38222583.646531.1516745447189.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <38222583.646531.1516745447189@mail.yahoo.com> I see all these (hard to follow) AMSAT-BB postings about Keps implying there is NO ONE site that has accurate Keps. That we need to get this from here or that from there and combine to make a KEP.TLE for our programs. Is there no HAM SAT Keps that are complete & accurate? I was under the impression the AMSAT Keps were the most accurate for HAM SATs? Is that true or not, and if not, WHY??? AMSAT Keps - when are they updated? If daily - what time? How often should Users update their program Keps? I Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA From anderson58625 at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 22:26:45 2018 From: anderson58625 at gmail.com (anderson58625) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:26:45 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <618cf1c1-3950-8b88-f3ca-f7c637723467@gmail.com> References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> <618cf1c1-3950-8b88-f3ca-f7c637723467@gmail.com> Message-ID: <019f01d39499$41369680$c3a3c380$@gmail.com> Thanks Greg, Norm, Diane, WF1F, and Bob for the effort of your kind answers! 73 Mark W9AT -----Original Message----- From: Greg D [mailto:ko6th.greg at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:52 PM To: Norm n3ykf Cc: Bob- W7LRD; anderson58625; Amsat BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Ok, fair enough. F7 is different than the original 9913, and that is an important distinction. Bob's comment (which I quoted) was about the original 9913. The F7 variety shouldn't be as susceptible to water, but then it also isn't quite as good as (dry) 9913 or LMR-400. But to the original question, which included a point about covering microwave bands, none of the RG-8-ish type cables are appropriate for more than a few feet on those bands. Except for the short flexible portion around the rotor, LMR-600 or hardline is needed, or mount a weather proof transverter up on the tower to shorten the microwave portion of the feed. I still use a higher-grade cable for UHF, as my run is over 60' from rig to antenna. Below that, it's more a matter of availability and cost. Just don't go with the really skinny stuff (RG-58 or RG-8X), because of both higher loss and lower power handling capability. A good comparison table I found is here: https://mapleleafcom.com/PDFs_Downloads/CoaxLossChart.pdf Greg KO6TH Norm n3ykf wrote: > 9913 is not 9913F7 > > Google is your friend, or perhaps if one is lazy, not. > > Norm n3ykf > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Greg D wrote: >> I've got hardline for my 60' runs on 70cm, and 1.2 ghz. Really works >> a LOT better than 9913, especially with the water problems. Besides >> at the connectors, the local squirrel population likes to gnaw at >> stuff, and all it takes is one small chew to ruin the entire run. >> With "regular" (solid innards) coax, the wound can be taped over with >> electrical tape, since they don't seem to like the braid. Even the >> smallest nick in 9913 will eventually be fatal. >> >> Greg KO6TH >> >> >> Bob- W7LRD wrote: >>> For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400. LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside. Unless coax connectors are super sealed. >>> 73 Bob W7LRD >>> >>>> On January 22, 2018 at 6:03 PM anderson58625 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Reading the subject line, I may have somehow mixed sarcasm with a >>>> potential pun (eye of the beholder!) . Sorry for that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I seek to avoid investing in a set of cable producing hardware (or >>>> assembled >>>> cables) which I will regret later. I am hoping to get some >>>> guidance regarding coax for: >>>> >>>> 1) IF patch between equipment (male-male BNC's) >>>> >>>> 2) 2m feedline (N-connectors) (<50') >>>> >>>> 3) 70cm feedline (N-connectors) (<50') >>>> >>>> 4) A later potential for feedline carrying microwave frequencies >>>> (>1GHz) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The frequency & loss-rate charts for coax are informative, but I'm >>>> not sure I'm seeing which connectors will fit what cable >>>> brand/types. With the variables of loss, dimensions, flexibility, >>>> and potential proprietary crimping systems, etc., I don't have >>>> enough experience or information to confidently make an online >>>> materials order. Things were much easier down here with just HF >>>> frequencies, RG-213, and good quality (weather protected) PL-259's! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For IF patch cables, I figure these are conveying HF so the cable >>>> type/loss at 1-3' isn't very important. But, there is also >>>> shielding: A consideration? >>>> >>>> . Any thoughts on IF cables? >>>> >>>> . Plus, I've never attached a BNC to a cable. Easy? Avoid it? >>>> >>>> . Plan on a new crimper/die? >>>> >>>> . Or, if premade would be cheaper (just a few IF patch cables), any >>>> quality sources to recommend? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For the 2m & 70cm feedlines, I know flexibility may be a >>>> consideration on rotating/elevating masts. Of course, I'm sure a >>>> rigid feedline may be superior elsewhere, but I am not at that >>>> point yet. Still, advice on that subject is gratefully >>>> appreciated. I need to provide good questions to hope for good answers, so what feedline you would recommend for: >>>> >>>> . Reasonable flexibility/portability >>>> >>>> . 2m-23cm >>>> >>>> . Modest power >>>> >>>> . <50' >>>> >>>> . For use with n-connectors >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The benefit of you knowledge and experience is much appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark W9AT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: >>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: >>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 22:49:57 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:49:57 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> <394188853.575366.1516743359153@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <000001d3949c$7e67feb0$7b37fc10$@gmail.com> No question, the original 9913 could be a water hose. It had an air gap between the center conductor and the foam dielectric with a spiral winding of Teflon (?) to keep the spacing constant. A friend and operator of a repeater went up to determine why the performance was deteriorating. He found water running out of the feedline into the utility building. My first satellite station, circa 1986, used 9913 to the preamps at the tower, and then RG-213 (later LMR-400UF) to the antennas. I put some additional sealing at the preamps, and never had a problem with water. Perhaps I was lucky; I certainly was not good. :) However, 9913 has evolved over the last 30 years in all versions. After my tower and antennas were destroyed, I rebuilt the system using LMR to the preamps, and hardline for the 24 cm feed. I had never been satisfied with the actual flexibility of the 400UF. 9913F7 is the loss equivalent and far more flexible. It lacks the air gap of the original, so no water. With some trepidation, I ordered some for the "rotator loop." After 5 years, based on performance and loss measurements, they are as good as new. FWIW, Alan WA4SCA From jim at k6ccc.org Tue Jan 23 22:54:25 2018 From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:54:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> Message-ID: <1516748065.361727563@apps.rackspace.com> Greg D said (in part): > Yes, but wet 9913 has a loss of ? I'm not sure any of us can count that high! Many years ago I had some 9913 on my satellite antennas. After a while I found that the 430 yagi was getting very deaf listening to mode V/U birds. Found the cable full of water. Because my cables made a 180 degree sweeping bend just before entering the house, I ended up drilling a small in the outer jacket and braid right at the bottom of the bend. Drained over a pint of water out of the coax. This was on a run that was less than 25 feet long, and both ends were at weather protected locations. Left it that way for at least a year before replacing the cable with LMR400. 73 ----- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org From w7lrd at comcast.net Wed Jan 24 00:45:32 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:45:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] senior moment Message-ID: <394080228.580179.1516754732576@connect.xfinity.com> I forget how to get into the keps file in satpc32. I have Win 10- from the digitally challenged 73 Bob W7LRD From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed Jan 24 01:28:44 2018 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:28:44 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: <201801240128.w0O1Sjhi031583@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Bob, Important to point out that the F7 variant of 9913 has no air dielectric which got the original 9913 into trouble. Also LMR cables use aluminum foil shield covered with wire braid shield. If exposed to water the aluminum corrodes and gets quite lossy. So wx sealing is still necessary (two wraps of good electrical tape at minimum). Good electrical tape = Scotch 33+ I also seal with heat shrink tubing but often cover that with electrical tape. LMR-400 is generally good to 432. It is not anymore flexible than Belden 9913. For better flex consider LMR-400UF (ultra-flex). Slightly higher loss but better to go around az-el joints. For long runs at 432-MHz one should consider LDF4-50 Heliax hardline (1/2-inch) or lLDF5-50 up to LDF7-50. Loss is higher at 1268. I have 15-foot run of LDF4-50 from my tower-mounted DEMI 144/1268 Tx converter. That gets the most power to the antenna and only needs 12vdc, PTT, and 144-MHz coax to input. Some archive photos: http://www.kl7uw.com/sat.htm Drawing shows current satellite antenna installation. 73, Ed - KL7uW From: Bob- W7LRD To: amsat-bb at amsat.org, anderson58625 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: <992329878.579633.1516693575413 at connect.xfinity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400. LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside. Unless coax connectors are super sealed. 73 Bob W7LRD 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jan 24 13:29:43 2018 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] senior moment In-Reply-To: <394080228.580179.1516754732576@connect.xfinity.com> References: <394080228.580179.1516754732576@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <1536054038.7121234.1516800583053@mail.yahoo.com> Adding new satellites to #SatPC32, Gpredict and Nova https://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/23/adding-new-satellites-to-satpc32/ Trevor M5AKA ---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- On Wednesday, 24 January 2018, 0:47, Bob- W7LRD wrote: I forget how to get into the keps file in satpc32.? I have Win 10- from the digitally challenged 73 Bob W7LRD _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pconver at gmail.com Wed Jan 24 15:21:48 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 12:21:48 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps accuracy In-Reply-To: <38222583.646531.1516745447189@mail.yahoo.com> References: <38222583.646531.1516745447189.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <38222583.646531.1516745447189@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: As alternative for updated keplers try http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt Updated every 4 hours with latest keps from Amsat-NA, celestrak and space-track 73, lu7abf, Pedro On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > I see all these (hard to follow) AMSAT-BB postings about Keps implying > there is NO ONE site that has accurate Keps. That we need to get this from > here or that from there and combine to make a KEP.TLE for our programs. > Is there no HAM SAT Keps that are complete & accurate? > I was under the impression the AMSAT Keps were the most accurate for HAM > SATs? Is that true or not, and if not, WHY? > > AMSAT Keps - when are they updated? If daily - what time? > How often should Users update their program Keps? > > I > > Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Wed Jan 24 00:51:26 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 18:51:26 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] senior moment In-Reply-To: <394080228.580179.1516754732576@connect.xfinity.com> References: <394080228.580179.1516754732576@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: http://bfy.tw/GCyZ On Jan 23, 2018, 6:45 PM -0600, Bob- W7LRD , wrote: > I forget how to get into the keps file in satpc32. I have Win 10- > > from the digitally challenged > > 73 Bob W7LRD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From normanlizeth at gmail.com Tue Jan 23 22:52:28 2018 From: normanlizeth at gmail.com (Norm n3ykf) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:52:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: References: <010d01d393ee$5f5bd630$1e138290$@gmail.com> <992329878.579633.1516693575413@connect.xfinity.com> <6a69296e-2305-fc75-963f-90fc40651444@gmail.com> <55F1112961434BD280E74FEC9D156A4E@AA5PKPC> <394188853.575366.1516743359153@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Checking the datasheets for 9913, 9913F7 and LMR-400DB shows no real world difference at UHF. 2-3 dB (round number) at 500 MHz per 100'. Most ops don't have the gear to measure that small a difference reliably. Personally would not use 9913 due to it's problems. Never had a problem with F7. Used two 130' runs of LMR-400DB for 7 years in FL. Replaced the UHF run with LDF4-50A 3 years in. Difference was remarkable. UHF and up for any significant length is worth the time and effort to install hardline. Checked the VHF side on the hardline, doing an A/B comparison. Could not tell the difference. Next time I've got the sitemaster out, I'll try measuring the loss of two different pieces of F7. One brand new, the other 20 years old, exposed to the elements most of that time. Stay tuned. Bottom line is that good coax with correctly installed connectors, weatherproofed well will perform identically. Measuring the difference would be very hard. OTOH, while less quality connectors and coax may measure the same at instillation, will degrade faster. (I.E. moving pieces like antenna whips) Hardline is cheep these days. New OEM connectors can be had very reasonably and are almost idiot proof to install. (Older ones need special tools!) I hate doing things twice. These things tend to fail at the worst time. Personal opinion: this is where pennies and sweat count. Blah, blah, blah, blah..... Norm n3ykf On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Burns Fisher wrote: > You know how the phone company used to keep paper-insulate thousand (or > whatever) conductor, lead sheath cables dry inside? Dry nitrogen pumped in > from the central office, and extra bottles soldered in when leaks were > found :-) > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > >> Some years ago I had some 9913, well sealed (so I thought). Gradually the >> swr crept up. Without a thought, it got trashed and was replaced with LMR >> 400. Yes the idea of syringing water out of 9913 can work, also a constant >> blower blowing into the 9913 can work, we can also insert small sponges >> into the 9913 and replace them when necessary, or we can have the 9913 >> running down hill the whole way so the water can drip out (makes for a wet >> ham shack), or we can build a roof over the 9913 to keep it out of the >> moisture. I could go on and on and I am sure many of you have even more >> creative ideas! Am I being facetious? Of course I am! Hams can be >> "cheap" bunch but there is place where a few extra bucks is money well >> spent. Anything above 70cm I use LMR600. Just having fun today! >> >> 73 Bob W7LRD >> >> > On January 23, 2018 at 1:03 PM Greg D wrote: >> > >> > >> > Yes, but wet 9913 has a loss of ? >> > >> > While searching for some hardline to replace my 9913 run some years >> ago, >> > I resorted to drilling a hole in the bottom end of the cable, and >> > sucking out the water periodically with a syringe. It was not an >> > insignificant amount, and made a huge difference. Eventually found >> > someone with some leftover LDF4-50A hardline, and made a swap with >> him >> > for a UHF beam antenna I had extra. Best deal on the planet. >> > >> > If you can truly keep your 9913 dry inside, by all means, go for it. >> > But how do you know it's still dry? To me, it's not worth the >> trouble. >> > If you like that size cable, I'd go with LMR-400 instead of either >> > variety of 9913. >> > >> > Greg KO6TH >> > >> > >> > Glenn Miller - AA5PK wrote: >> > >> > > > 9913F7 has nearly 10 dB attenuation/100 feet at 400 MHz. >> 9913 has >> > > about 2.6 dB. >> > > >> > > https://edesk.belden.com/products/techdata/metric/pdf/ >> 9913F7.pdf >> > > https://catalog.belden.com/techdata/EN/9913_techdata.pdf >> > > >> > > I know which I'd choose. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- From: Norm n3ykf Sent: Tuesday, >> January 23, >> > > 2018 1:09 PM To: Greg D Cc: <, amsat-bb at amsat.org mailto: >> amsat-bb at amsat.org >, ; >> > > anderson58625 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax >> > > 9913 is not 9913F7 >> > > >> > > Google is your friend, or perhaps if one is lazy, not. >> > > >> > > Norm n3ykf >> > > >> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ >> listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . >> AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >> membership. >> > > Opinions expressed >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >> official views >> > > of AMSAT-NA. >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur >> satellite >> > > program! >> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ >> listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA >> makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ >> listinfo/amsat-bb >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From olsonda1 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 24 16:27:50 2018 From: olsonda1 at yahoo.com (Donald Olson) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <201801240128.w0O1Sjhi031583@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201801240128.w0O1Sjhi031583@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <171777450.344072.1516811270343@mail.yahoo.com> This has been an interesting chain of posts and I have copied it for distribution at our club.? Thanks. I will continue to follow it. However, to those out there that think that you can eliminate water in coax with proper sealing, you are only delaying the inevitable, especially if you live in a humid climate like New Orleans.? As an engineer familiar with the psychometric chart, unless you can make your connection "air" proof, anything except DRY air or DRY nitrogen positive pressure will allow water to accumulate.? The theory is this:? at "relatively" high temperatures, air in the coax holds more water as a vapor...invisible.? Normal atmospheric pressure changes moves air in and out of the air spaces in the coax.? As the day or season cools the air inside can hold less water vapor and some condenses out as liquid.? (Think of the liquid condensation on the outside of a glass filled with ice water.)? The liquid deposits itself in the air spaces within the coax and "essentially" never leaves.? Continued cycles of air pressure and humid air condense more and more liquid water within the coax.? It is unavoidable.? It may be possible to drain it out, but you won't get it all because of capillary forces. Without positive internal pressure, the enemy turns out to be the void (air) space in the coax.? Eliminate the void space and there is no where for the (humid) air to get into with changes in atmospheric pressure.? I use LMR-400 with N connectors and "shelter" my connections with three layers of waterproofing.? I say "shelter" because a true seal is impossible.? I wrap from the bottom up to get "shingling" to repel liquid water.? Water vapor (humidity) is impossible to avoid at a reasonable cost.? When SWR's go up, the coax cable is over, and trashed.? Don't buy used coax!? Keep the "Exciting" comments coming.? ?Don Olson, PE, WA5WTreasurer and VEC Chairman Jefferson Amateur Radio Club, Inc. W5GAD, WW2NO P.S.:? Our Ham Radio Club has suffered some damage recently and Amazon Smile will help us raise money to fix things.? When you #StartWithaSmile, Amazon donates 0.5% of your purchase price to Jefferson Amateur Radio Club Inc (501c3) without increasing the cost to you. Bookmark the link https://smile.amazon.com/ch/23-7426451 and support us every time you shop at Amazon.? Thank you. Amateur Radio:? Helping protect America with continued communications in times of crisis and having fun while learning and practicing our skills. From: Edward R Cole To: AMSAT-BB at amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Bob, Important to point out that the F7 variant of 9913 has no air dielectric which got the original 9913 into trouble.? Also LMR cables use aluminum foil shield covered with wire braid shield.? If exposed to water the aluminum corrodes and gets quite lossy.? So wx sealing is still necessary (two wraps of good electrical tape at minimum).? Good electrical tape = Scotch 33+ I also seal with heat shrink tubing but often cover that with electrical tape. LMR-400 is generally good to 432.? It is not anymore flexible than Belden 9913.? For better flex consider LMR-400UF (ultra-flex).? Slightly higher loss but better to go around az-el joints. For long runs at 432-MHz one should consider LDF4-50 Heliax hardline (1/2-inch) or lLDF5-50 up to LDF7-50.? Loss is higher at 1268.? I have 15-foot run of LDF4-50 from my tower-mounted DEMI 144/1268 Tx converter.? That gets the most power to the antenna and only needs 12vdc, PTT, and 144-MHz coax to input. Some archive photos: http://www.kl7uw.com/sat.htm Drawing shows current satellite antenna installation. 73, Ed - KL7uW From: Bob- W7LRD To: amsat-bb at amsat.org, anderson58625 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: <992329878.579633.1516693575413 at connect.xfinity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 For 2 & 70cm I use LMR400.? LMR is better (in my opinion), in that it's more flexable, 9913 can get water inside.? Unless coax connectors are super sealed. 73 Bob W7LRD 73, Ed - KL7UW ? http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: ? dubususa at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From anderson9000 at gmail.com Wed Jan 24 19:16:23 2018 From: anderson9000 at gmail.com (anderson9000) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:16:23 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: <021901d39547$d31e95d0$795bc170$@gmail.com> I've gotten lots of good information from the many kind replies. Thanks very much to taking the time! 73 Mark W9AT From scruzan1 at gmail.com Wed Jan 24 22:47:36 2018 From: scruzan1 at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:47:36 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: I keep seeing all these remarks referencing a "long run"... What is considered a long run above VHF? 50 feet, 100 feet, something in between? At what point should we be using 9913/LMR-400 coax or LDF4 hardline? Rick KE6LL From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 05:20:29 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:20:29 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74cb7b4c-11d3-d8db-734e-598c71af477f@gmail.com> Yeah, really good question, Rick... I think it's a matter of both frequency and what cable you're using, i.e. how much loss you're getting. A Really Long Run of RG-8 may be several hundred feet or so for HF, but only 100 feet at VHF, and 10 feet at 1.2 ghz. If the loss is enough to matter, or if you need to spend a lot more money on coax, then it's a Really Long Run. A 3db loss, for most applications, is about where you can just detect a difference. Don't forget to add in a little for the connectors. It's a classic "half an S-unit" on receive, and the loss of half your power on transmit. So, 100' of RG-8 type coax may be ok for VHF, but starts becoming a problem at UHF and above. I.e. it's starting to become a long run for UHF. At least, that's how I would sum it up. Greg KO6TH Rick wrote: > I keep seeing all these remarks referencing a "long run"... What is > considered a long run above VHF? 50 feet, 100 feet, something in between? > At what point should we be using 9913/LMR-400 coax or LDF4 hardline? > > Rick KE6LL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va6bmj at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 06:54:31 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 06:54:31 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Falcon Heavy Static Test Firing Successful Message-ID: http://parabolicarc.com/2018/01/24/spacex-conducts-falcon-heavy-static-fire/ http://parabolicarc.com/2018/01/24/closeup-video-falcon-heavy-static-fire/ An actual launch is pending: http://parabolicarc.com/2018/01/24/musk-falcon-heavy-launch-week/ 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From aj9n at aol.com Thu Jan 25 08:05:06 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 03:05:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-25 08:00 UTC Message-ID: <1612c594f2b-1723-b2f5c@webjas-vad105.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-25 08:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? The English School, Nicosia, Cyprus, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Contact was successful: Wed 2018-01-24 10:35:45 UTC 56 deg (***) ? Watch for live stream at www.cyhams.org/ariss.html ? Central Magnet Math & Science ES/Batesville School District, Batesville, AR, telebridge, via IK1SLD (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Joe Acaba KE5DAR Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-31 16:42:05 UTC 89 deg (***) ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-01-25 08:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1204. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1153. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas,?Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-25 08:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR ? Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From g.shirville at btinternet.com Thu Jan 25 09:06:47 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1/AO73 Operations References: <1896843390.160030.1516871207954.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1896843390.160030.1516871207954@mail.yahoo.com> ?Hi All, As previously advised, AO73 will shortly be entering fullsun light and already the eclipse periods are only 11/12 minutes every orbit.Current predictions indicate that full sun will commence on Feb 6thand last through until March 14th. Our autonomous, on-board, scheduling system is based uponswitching modes when entering and leaving eclipses, was not designed for this situations and will therefore not besuitable for operations over the next few months. In line with the recently published plan, AO73 was switchedto continuous amateur mode earlier this morning and will stay in this modeuntil Sunday night or Monday morning. We expect that this schedule will continue until mid April. The next full sun periods are then expected to return again in late August Further info is available at https://funcube.org.uk/news/ 73FUNcube Operations From bruninga at usna.edu Thu Jan 25 16:09:52 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 11:09:52 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] From under my rock... CAS-4B! Message-ID: <867b46d8f8ae75844cea393687adbbbb@mail.gmail.com> Crawling from under my rock today to help a student find a satellite to tune in, I saw CAS-4B. And it was a 36 degree pass. Tuned it in and heard lots of SSB contacts and 2 CW contacts! Nice! Being under my packet radio rock, I had not realized such a good linear bird was at our latitudes. I guess I confused it with the packet ones only workable from Florida. Anyway, nice linear bird! Back under my rock. Have to deliver PSAT2 in 2 weeks. Bob, WB4APR From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Thu Jan 25 16:53:15 2018 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 07:53:15 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: <201801251653.w0PGrINx020171@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Don is correct. In my former work I installed radio systems on boats and considered 5-years trouble-free operation "full life cycle". I sealed those cables with a layer of scotch-30 annealing tape with Scotch 33+ over that. The boats were in 27 to 45 foot class so subject to considerable saltwater spray. We also had two 200-foot oil well support vessels on Cook Inlet in Alaska. My Ham Radio use of LMR-400 gets about ten years life, even with super diligent sealing. The aluminum tape shield is subject to corrosion in presence of moisture. Using true hardline like LDF cables will outlast LMR cables. Why they are used in commercial radio sites. I live two miles from Cook Inlet. My main VHF/UHF transmission line is 120 foot of LDF7-50A which is 1-5/8 inch in diameter and cost me $1.00/foot new surplus (got a 160-foot remnant). It has about 0.27 dB/100 foot loss at 150-MHz. I get about 5w on 1296 with 15w input over a 170-foot combined run of LMR-600 & LDF7-50A. Coax does not live forever - unless used as a dummy load (LOL) 73, Ed - KL7UW 35-years experience in 2-way communications (FCC 2nd class with Marine Endorsement) From: Donald Olson To: "AMSAT-BB at amsat.org" Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: <171777450.344072.1516811270343 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This has been an interesting chain of posts and I have copied it for distribution at our club.? Thanks. I will continue to follow it. However, to those out there that think that you can eliminate water in coax with proper sealing, you are only delaying the inevitable, especially if you live in a humid climate like New Orleans 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Thu Jan 25 17:09:27 2018 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 08:09:27 -0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax Message-ID: <201801251709.w0PH9UY4031515@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> I guess I differ with Greg KO6TH on what I consider "reasonable loss". I do a lot of VHF thru mw frequencies and hate to loose more than 1-dB in loss. I consider 25-foot of RG-213 at 144-MHz as max, then go to LMR-400 for longer runs (up to 150-foot). If longer runs needed then I use LDF or equivalent hardline. My 2m eme antennas are 214 foot from the PA and measured total loss is 1.67 dB, but my preamps are mounted on the tower and only see about 0.4 dB loss. On 1296 my dish is about 100-foot from the shack and I have 6-dB loss in the LMR-600 transmission line. Fortunately my high power PA's are located at the dish and only need 2w drive from my 20w transverter in the shack. On 1296 receive the preamp is mounted directly to the dish feed and have about 125 foot of LMR-400 to transverter (7-dB loss). But preamp has 37-dB gain so easily overcomes the loss with about 30-dB residual gain to the transverter to result in 0.3 dBNF. This is all for eme where losses will kill your ability so see weak signals. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubususa at gmail.com From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Thu Jan 25 17:29:44 2018 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 11:29:44 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] DM90 and DL98/DL99 on Saturday Message-ID: <83D37BB727E9467DACEFD6B7CA83FFA6@AA5PKPC> Gary, W5ETJ, and I plan to trek down toward the Mexico border on Saturday, 27 January. Will be in DM90 for the 1512Z pass of CAS-4B, the 1532Z pass of AO-85 and the 1613Z pass of AO-92 (assuming it's open for business). Will also work the 1652Z pass of CAS-4B (probably still in DM90.) Also the 1727Z SO-50 pass probably from DL99. The 1904Z pass of SO-50 and the 1915Z pass of AO-91 will be from DL98/DL99 line. May work the 2050Z pass of AO-7 on the return trip, likely from DM90. Will upload to LoTW after the trip. Hard copy QSL request by email. Follow me on APRS as AA5PK-9. Will provide updates on Twitter as @AA5PK 73 Glenn AA5PK From gordonbrowns at virginmedia.com Thu Jan 25 09:25:43 2018 From: gordonbrowns at virginmedia.com (GORDON BROWN) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:25:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [amsat-bb] [FUNcube] FUNcube-1/AO73 Operations In-Reply-To: <1896843390.160030.1516871207954@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1896843390.160030.1516871207954.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1896843390.160030.1516871207954@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1205810605.2527488.1516872343051.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbe16.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net> Please delete G3MZV Mr G Brown from all your e-mails my husband has died and I no longer want to see emails to him I have tried to stop it but nobody seems to take any notice Thank you J Brown > On 25 January 2018 at 09:06 "Graham Shirville g.shirville at btinternet.com > [FUNcube]" wrote: > > > Hi All, > > As previously advised, AO73 will shortly be entering full sun light and > already the eclipse periods are only 11/12 minutes every orbit. Current > predictions indicate that full sun will commence on Feb 6th and last through > until March 14th. > > Our autonomous, on-board, scheduling system is based upon switching modes > when entering and leaving eclipses, was not designed for this situations and > will therefore not be suitable for operations over the next few months. > > In line with the recently published plan, AO73 was switched to continuous > amateur mode earlier this morning and will stay in this mode until Sunday > night or Monday morning. We expect that this schedule will continue until mid > April. The next full sun periods are then expected to return again in late > August > > Further info is available at https://funcube.org.uk/news/ > https://funcube.org.uk/news/ > > https://funcube.org.uk/news/ > 73 > > FUNcube Operations > __._,_.___ > > > > --------------------------------------------- > Posted by: Graham Shirville > --------------------------------------------- > > Reply via web post > https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FUNcube/conversations/messages/10281;_ylc=X3oDMTJycXFzdDZtBF9TAzk3NDkwNTA1BGdycElkAzcxMDU4MzA4BGdycHNwSWQDMTY5MDA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAMxMDI4MQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTY4NzE0NTQ-?act=reply&messageNum=10281 > ? Reply to sender > mailto:g.shirville at btinternet.com?subject=Re%3A%20FUNcube-1%2FAO73%20Operations > ? Reply to group > mailto:FUNcube at yahoogroups.co.uk?subject=Re%3A%20FUNcube-1%2FAO73%20Operations > ? 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I'm wondering if there are sufficient details published to do an SDR? Bob N4HY -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jan 25 17:53:27 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:53:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese TY2-TY6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have not seen ANY details published beyond what's in the IARU coordination request. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: > These seem interesting with 5 MBPS OFDM downlink on 5.8 GHz. > > > I'm wondering if there are sufficient details published to do an SDR? > > Bob > N4HY > > -- > Bob McGwier > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc > Research Professor Virginia Tech > Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and > Technology > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ > Director of AMSAT > Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, > NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 17:56:24 2018 From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 11:56:24 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese TY2-TY6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a6a1a47.c3326b0a.c9151.c743@mx.google.com> Hi Bob, > These seem interesting with 5 MBPS OFDM downlink on 5.8 GHz. > I'm wondering if there are sufficient details published to do an SDR? Here is a link to their IARU frequency coordination submission: http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=556 While the frequencies are listed, the team did not provide many additional details about their ODFM. The submission form does have a contact e-mail though. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 17:57:14 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:57:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] HT for sats In-Reply-To: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The Kenwood TH-D72 is the only in production HT that is truly full duplex in that it won't desense the receiver on 70cm when you TX on 2m. This is important for SO-50 and any birds with similar band usage. It also has APRS/packet so you can use it with digipeaters. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Jan 25, 2018 12:37 PM, "James Sanford" wrote: > after moving several years ago, I'm getting back into sats and would > like a new HT ( IC W32 is aging).looking at the FT-70dr but is there a > better choice?? TNXs K8zzu > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jan 25 18:00:28 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:00:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] HT for sats In-Reply-To: References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Also, other than the battery, I'm not sure the TH-D72 will outperform the IC-W32 for satellite use. The lowest cost option would be to simply acquire a new battery for the aging IC-W32 unless there are other problems with it. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:57 PM, John Brier wrote: > The Kenwood TH-D72 is the only in production HT that is truly full duplex > in that it won't desense the receiver on 70cm when you TX on 2m. This is > important for SO-50 and any birds with similar band usage. It also has > APRS/packet so you can use it with digipeaters. > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Jan 25, 2018 12:37 PM, "James Sanford" wrote: > >> after moving several years ago, I'm getting back into sats and would >> like a new HT ( IC W32 is aging).looking at the FT-70dr but is there a >> better choice?? TNXs K8zzu >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Thu Jan 25 18:23:45 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 18:23:45 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] HT for sats In-Reply-To: References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Paul, Newer versions of the IC-W32 have desense when transmitting on 2m and trying to simultaneously on 70cm - like we do for SO-50. ?This includes some with higher 5-digit serial numbers, and those with 7-digit serial numbers. I had no problems using my IC-W32 with the ISS cross-band repeater whenever it was in U/V mode, and it should do fine with AO-85, AO-91, etc. It had desense when working SO-50, but its receiver was good for old FM satellites back in the days of AO-51 and AO-27. It should be great with the Fox-1 FM satellites and their strong 2m downlinks. If your IC-W32 has no desense when working SO-50, Paul's suggestion is good. Companies like batteriesamerica.com still sell new battery packs for that radio, and even a 6-cell AA case (Icom's only held 4 AA cells). If yours has desense with SO-50, you'll have to decide if you can live with that, or look for another radio that will do full-duplex with both V/U and U/V satellites - like the TH-D72 that is currently in production. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Also, other than the battery, I'm not sure the TH-D72 will outperform > the IC-W32 for satellite use. The lowest cost option would be to > simply acquire a new battery for the aging IC-W32 unless there are > other problems with it. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > From af5cc2 at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 18:30:49 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:30:49 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] HT for sats In-Reply-To: References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Does desense on 2m occur with using Mode B FM satellites in full duplex on other current HTs? 73 John AF5CC On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Also, other than the battery, I'm not sure the TH-D72 will outperform > the IC-W32 for satellite use. The lowest cost option would be to > simply acquire a new battery for the aging IC-W32 unless there are > other problems with it. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:57 PM, John Brier wrote: > > The Kenwood TH-D72 is the only in production HT that is truly full duplex > > in that it won't desense the receiver on 70cm when you TX on 2m. This is > > important for SO-50 and any birds with similar band usage. It also has > > APRS/packet so you can use it with digipeaters. > > > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > > > On Jan 25, 2018 12:37 PM, "James Sanford" wrote: > > > >> after moving several years ago, I'm getting back into sats and would > >> like a new HT ( IC W32 is aging).looking at the FT-70dr but is there a > >> better choice?? TNXs K8zzu > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > >> expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From scott23192 at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 18:49:57 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:49:57 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese TY2-TY6 In-Reply-To: <5a6a1a47.c3326b0a.c9151.c743@mx.google.com> References: <5a6a1a47.c3326b0a.c9151.c743@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I emailed a couple of addresses associated with those satellites not long after launch but have not gotten any reply. Here is a look at what is known so far in regard to their transmissions on 70cm: http://destevez.net/2018/01/a-first-look-at-ty-2/ -Scott, K4KDR ========================= On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:56 PM, JoAnne K9JKM wrote: > Hi Bob, > > > These seem interesting with 5 MBPS OFDM downlink on 5.8 GHz. > > I'm wondering if there are sufficient details published to do an SDR? > > > Here is a link to their IARU frequency coordination submission: > http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=556 > > While the frequencies are listed, the team did not provide many additional > details about their ODFM. The submission form does have a contact e-mail > though. > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Thu Jan 25 18:50:06 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 18:50:06 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] HT for sats In-Reply-To: References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, "(O)n current HTs"? Other than some reports I have seen about the Alinco DJ-G7T and its poor receiver for FM satellites in general, it appears that the HTs that have been previously reported as capable of full-duplex operation with V/U FM satellites like AO-51 and SO-50 would be fine with the mode B (U/V) satellites like AO-91 and AO-92. With the uplink on 70cm, you avoid issues with harmonics which can be an issue on some radios capable of full-duplex operation when you transmit on 2m - keeping in mind that frequencies in the 435-438 MHz satellite subband can be very close to the third harmonic of the 2m uplink frequency. After AO-85's launch in October 2015, I tested a few Chinese- made 2m/70cm FM HTs that were advertised as being capable of full-duplex operation. None of them could work SO-50 full- duplex due to receiver desense, but could be used with AO-85. I wrote a series of AMSAT-BB posts about those tests at that time, and a link to a summary with other links to the specific models is in the AMSAT-BB archive: http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-December/056269.html I have been using the Wouxun KG-UV9D with AO-91 on a regular basis, either with my Elk log periodic or an MFJ-1717 2m/70cm long duckie. This radio, along with other HTs like my TH-D72 and an old TH-D7 I had for a little bit, is capable of full- duplex operation with mode B (U/V) satellites. I have seen other reports online of hams using a Wouxun KG-UV8D (or one of its variants) to successfully work AO-91 full-duplex. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 6:30 PM, John Geiger wrote: > Does desense on 2m occur with using Mode B FM satellites in full duplex on > other current HTs? > > 73 John AF5CC > > From daniel at destevez.net Thu Jan 25 18:56:39 2018 From: daniel at destevez.net (Dani EA4GPZ) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 19:56:39 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese TY2-TY6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: El 25/01/18 a las 18:49, Robert McGwier escribi?: > These seem interesting with 5 MBPS OFDM downlink on 5.8 GHz. > > > I'm wondering if there are sufficient details published to do an SDR? > > Bob > N4HY Hi Bob, That would probably be hard. Most likely the 5GHz OFDM downlink only works by request of the groundstation. Also, a OFDM is rather complex to reverse engineer and such. Let us first try to get some information from the team regarding the 70cm telemetry, since this transmits continuously and uses a much simpler protocol (but we're still unable to do much). In any case, anyone with the appropriate receiver can give it a go and try to record the 5GHz downlink during a pass. If something shows up in the recording, it would be interesting and I would surely give it a good look. 73, Dani. From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jan 25 18:57:15 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:57:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] HT for sats In-Reply-To: References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Patrick, The DJ-G7T does appear to be unsuitable for full duplex U/v operation. In limited testing (only 3 passes - 2 with a whip, 1 with an Elk), I experienced desense. I could still hear my own signal a bit, but it was not clear. I even keyed up with a whip on 1.2 GHz during a pass of AO-92 when it was in high speed mode and the 1.2 GHz signal mostly wiped out the satellite reception. Even just listening, the receiver performs poorly for satellite operation. That said, I have used the DJ-G7T as my transmitter to make contacts on three passes of AO-92 in mode L/v. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > John, > > "(O)n current HTs"? Other than some reports I have seen about > the Alinco DJ-G7T and its poor receiver for FM satellites in > general, it appears that the HTs that have been previously > reported as capable of full-duplex operation with V/U FM > satellites like AO-51 and SO-50 would be fine with the mode > B (U/V) satellites like AO-91 and AO-92. With the uplink on > 70cm, you avoid issues with harmonics which can be an issue > on some radios capable of full-duplex operation when you > transmit on 2m - keeping in mind that frequencies in the > 435-438 MHz satellite subband can be very close to the third > harmonic of the 2m uplink frequency. > > After AO-85's launch in October 2015, I tested a few Chinese- > made 2m/70cm FM HTs that were advertised as being capable of > full-duplex operation. None of them could work SO-50 full- > duplex due to receiver desense, but could be used with AO-85. > I wrote a series of AMSAT-BB posts about those tests at that > time, and a link to a summary with other links to the specific > models is in the AMSAT-BB archive: > > http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-December/056269.html > > I have been using the Wouxun KG-UV9D with AO-91 on a regular > basis, either with my Elk log periodic or an MFJ-1717 2m/70cm > long duckie. This radio, along with other HTs like my TH-D72 > and an old TH-D7 I had for a little bit, is capable of full- > duplex operation with mode B (U/V) satellites. I have seen > other reports online of hams using a Wouxun KG-UV8D (or one > of its variants) to successfully work AO-91 full-duplex. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 6:30 PM, John Geiger wrote: >> >> Does desense on 2m occur with using Mode B FM satellites in full duplex on >> other current HTs? >> >> 73 John AF5CC >> > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Thu Jan 25 19:09:45 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 19:09:45 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] HT for sats In-Reply-To: References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Paul, That's what I thought I saw about the DJ-G7T used recently. Thanks for posting that confirmation. I bought one in 2009 when they came out, and found it to be a poor performer with AO-27, AO-51, and SO-50 back then. I kept the HT, since it does have 1.2 GHz capability with 5 kHz tuning steps - a feature missing from most other 1.2 GHz HTs. If/when I find my DJ-G7T in my garage, I was planning to use it only as an uplink radio, and pair it up with another radio for full-duplex operation. Away from using it with FM satellites, its performance for using local repeaters on any of its 3 bands is OK - including an analog 1.2 GHz repeater we had in the Phoenix area back in 2009. Not a great performer, but adequate with the stronger signals from the local repeaters compared to FM satellites. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Patrick, > > The DJ-G7T does appear to be unsuitable for full duplex U/v operation. > In limited testing (only 3 passes - 2 with a whip, 1 with an Elk), I > experienced desense. I could still hear my own signal a bit, but it > was not clear. I even keyed up with a whip on 1.2 GHz during a pass of > AO-92 when it was in high speed mode and the 1.2 GHz signal mostly > wiped out the satellite reception. > > Even just listening, the receiver performs poorly for satellite operation. > > That said, I have used the DJ-G7T as my transmitter to make contacts > on three passes of AO-92 in mode L/v. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > From af5cc2 at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 19:15:34 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:15:34 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] HT for sats In-Reply-To: References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have used a Baofeng HT on the downlink on SO50 to get around the birdie issue with my TS2000. It denses enough that I cannot hear myself on the downlink. I now use a FT100D for the downlink on SO50 and that receives it fine. 73 John AF5CC On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > John, > > "(O)n current HTs"? Other than some reports I have seen about > the Alinco DJ-G7T and its poor receiver for FM satellites in > general, it appears that the HTs that have been previously > reported as capable of full-duplex operation with V/U FM > satellites like AO-51 and SO-50 would be fine with the mode > B (U/V) satellites like AO-91 and AO-92. With the uplink on > 70cm, you avoid issues with harmonics which can be an issue > on some radios capable of full-duplex operation when you > transmit on 2m - keeping in mind that frequencies in the > 435-438 MHz satellite subband can be very close to the third > harmonic of the 2m uplink frequency. > > After AO-85's launch in October 2015, I tested a few Chinese- > made 2m/70cm FM HTs that were advertised as being capable of > full-duplex operation. None of them could work SO-50 full- > duplex due to receiver desense, but could be used with AO-85. > I wrote a series of AMSAT-BB posts about those tests at that > time, and a link to a summary with other links to the specific > models is in the AMSAT-BB archive: > > http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-December/056269.html > > I have been using the Wouxun KG-UV9D with AO-91 on a regular > basis, either with my Elk log periodic or an MFJ-1717 2m/70cm > long duckie. This radio, along with other HTs like my TH-D72 > and an old TH-D7 I had for a little bit, is capable of full- > duplex operation with mode B (U/V) satellites. I have seen > other reports online of hams using a Wouxun KG-UV8D (or one > of its variants) to successfully work AO-91 full-duplex. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 6:30 PM, John Geiger wrote: > >> Does desense on 2m occur with using Mode B FM satellites in full duplex on >> other current HTs? >> >> 73 John AF5CC >> >> > From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 19:18:35 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 11:18:35 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Exciting Coax In-Reply-To: <201801251709.w0PH9UY4031515@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201801251709.w0PH9UY4031515@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: ...and is exactly why I have never been successful at EME or much with longer-distance weak signal stuff. Nice work, Ed! Fortunately, most satellite work is not considered weak signal, so I can be a bit more frugal with the coax and still be successful in making contacts. But, yes, I really should tighten things up a bit when I get the chance. I honestly put up with sucking water out of the the wet 9913 years ago way too long before landing the hardline. Life's too short for bad coax. Greg KO6TH Edward R Cole wrote: > I guess I differ with Greg KO6TH on what I consider "reasonable > loss". I do a lot of VHF thru mw frequencies and hate to loose more > than 1-dB in loss. I consider 25-foot of RG-213 at 144-MHz as max, > then go to LMR-400 for longer runs (up to 150-foot). If longer runs > needed then I use LDF or equivalent hardline. > > My 2m eme antennas are 214 foot from the PA and measured total loss is > 1.67 dB, but my preamps are mounted on the tower and only see about > 0.4 dB loss. On 1296 my dish is about 100-foot from the shack and I > have 6-dB loss in the LMR-600 transmission line. Fortunately my high > power PA's are located at the dish and only need 2w drive from my 20w > transverter in the shack. On 1296 receive the preamp is mounted > directly to the dish feed and have about 125 foot of LMR-400 to > transverter (7-dB loss). But preamp has 37-dB gain so easily > overcomes the loss with about 30-dB residual gain to the transverter > to result in 0.3 dBNF. This is all for eme where losses will kill > your ability so see weak signals. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > Dubus-NA Business mail: > dubususa at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rwmcgwier at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 19:38:25 2018 From: rwmcgwier at gmail.com (Robert McGwier) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:38:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 camera results In-Reply-To: <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> References: <047401d38ef0$3fef29d0$bfcd7d70$@mindspring.com> <15ca2dd1-e49d-4535-a36c-6a0587f74f15@vt.edu> Message-ID: What he said On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Zach Leffke wrote: > In an attempt to behave differently than I normally do...I'll try to keep > this one short. > > Quick warning....I'm speaking personally here, not on behalf of VT or > anything, though I know there are many that share my sentiments here. > > This entire experience would not have been possible without AMSAT and the > Amateur Radio community. And I don't just mean the obviously awesome folks > that are on the Engineering team and the Operations team that have helped > us so much along the way. I also mean everyone out there collecting > telemetry and forwarding to the server. We wouldn't have made it without > the entire community backing us up, and we recognize that! > > So for all of AMSAT and everyone else, HUGE thank you from VT. I hope the > partnership continues for as long as possible with as many missions as > possible. > > > Thanks again! > > Zach, KJ4QLP > > Research Associate > Aerospace Systems Lab > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > > On 1/16/2018 12:34 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote: > >> >> For those that have not been following AMSAT on Twitter or Facebook, we >> have >> done a few camera runs with AO-92 with very good results. A pass this >> morning yielded 4 good images, two of which I have located their position >> on >> the ground. The images can be seen at >> http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/index1.html >> >> >> Some side by side comparisons with Google Earth and NOAA images can be >> found >> at: https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953294176933896195 and >> https://twitter.com/AMSAT/status/953304248162406401 . >> >> >> Congratulations again to Virginia Tech, and thanks for providing the >> camera >> experiments for AO-92 and Fox-1Cliff! >> >> >> 73, Drew KO4MA >> >> AMSAT VP Operations >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Bob McGwier Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn, Trustee K4KDJ Director of AMSAT Member of PVRC (Roanoke-Blacksburg), TAPR, life member of ARRL and AMSAT, NRVR.ORG (Rocketry) From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Thu Jan 25 19:43:29 2018 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:43:29 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] DM90 and DL98/DL99 on Saturday In-Reply-To: <83D37BB727E9467DACEFD6B7CA83FFA6@AA5PKPC> References: <83D37BB727E9467DACEFD6B7CA83FFA6@AA5PKPC> Message-ID: > Also the 1727Z SO-50 pass probably from DL99. Correction to my plan. The 1727Z pass of SO-50 will be less than 1 degree, so will skip that one. May try the 1712Z AO-85 pass instead. Glenn From helmet.head22 at gmail.com Thu Jan 25 19:27:06 2018 From: helmet.head22 at gmail.com (Brian Helm) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:27:06 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking to connect with other FT847 users on linear sats Message-ID: <6A724D9C-5BE3-48A7-B36B-F6880B6DE974@gmail.com> Looking to connect with other FT847 users on linear sats. I'm new to this rig and wanted to share information and learn. Brian AA9KG From ukepilot at yahoo.com Thu Jan 25 21:15:10 2018 From: ukepilot at yahoo.com (David Loftus) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 15:15:10 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] DM90 and DL98/DL99 on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <83D37BB727E9467DACEFD6B7CA83FFA6@AA5PKPC> Message-ID: <73E6C2C5-DE12-42E9-97A8-A42DD99641E8@yahoo.com> As far as I?m concerned, this is the DXpedition of the year. Thanks for roving to my home grid so I can FINALLY work DL99! On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Glenn Miller - AA5PK wrote: >> Also the 1727Z SO-50 pass probably from DL99. > > Correction to my plan. The 1727Z pass of SO-50 will be less than 1 degree, so will skip that one. > May try the 1712Z AO-85 pass instead. > Glenn > > > From k9jkm at comcast.net Fri Jan 26 03:42:38 2018 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:42:38 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-026 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AO-92 Commissioned, Open for Amateur Use Message-ID: <005801d39657$b6007200$22015600$@net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN ANS-026 In this Special Bulletin Edition: * AO-92 Commissioned, Open for Amateur Use * AMSAT Membership Deal and Getting Started SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-026.01 ANS-026 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin AMSAT News Service Bulletin 026.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE January 26, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-026.01 AO-92 Commissioned, Open for Amateur Use On the 03:25 UTC pass on January 26, 2018, AMSAT Vice President ? Engineering Jerry Buxton, N0JY, announced that AO-92 had been commissioned and formally turned the satellite over to AMSAT Operations. AMSAT Vice President ? Operations Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, then declared that AO-92 was now open for amateur use. Initially, the U/v FM transponder will be open continuously for a period of one week. After the first week, operations will be scheduled between the U/v FM transponder, L-Band Downshifter, Virginia Tech Camera, and the University of Iowa?s High Energy Radiation CubeSat Instrument (HERCI). Schedule updates will appear in the AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins and will also be posted to the AMSAT-BB, AMSAT?s Twitter account (@AMSAT), the AMSAT North America Facebook group, and the AMSAT website at https://www.amsat.org/satellite-schedules/ AO-92 was launched on the PSLV-C40 mission from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India on January 12, 2018. For the past two weeks, the AMSAT Engineering and Operations teams have been testing the various modes and experiments on board. Testing has shown that both the U/v FM transponder and L-Band Downshifter work very well. The Virginia Tech camera has returned stunning photos and data from HERCI has been successfully downlinked. AMSAT thanks the 178 stations worldwide that have used FoxTelem to collect telemetry and experiment data from AO-92 during the commissioning process. The collection of this data is crucial to the missions of AMSAT?s Fox-1 satellites. Please continue to collect data from AO-85, AO-91, and AO-92. RADIO PROGRAMMING CHART Fox-1D Doppler Shift Correction Memory 1 (AOS) - TX 435.340 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 2 (Rise) - TX 435.345 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 3 (TCA) - TX 435.350 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 4 (Descend) - TX 435.355 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 5 (LOS) - TX 435.360 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz The L-band experiment will use 1267.350 MHz uplink with 145.880 MHz downlink. UHF and L-band uplink operation are set by the command stations; the operating schedule will be posted. [ANS thanks AMSAT Vice-President Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N?JY, AMSAT Vice President Operatings Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, and AMSAT Executive Vice President Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Membership Deal and Getting Started AMSAT membership supports the organization and construction of new satellites. Right now, we are offering a free PDF copy of our Getting Started with Amateur Satellites with every new on-line membership. This is -the- primer for getting on the sats, and is updated every year. See https://www.amsat.org/product-category/amsat-membership/ AMSAT also sells both the popular Arrow Antenna satellite models and the M2 LEOpack antennas. Sales also benefit AMSAT projects. https://www.amsat.org/product-category/hardware/ [ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM k9jkm at amsat dot org From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com Fri Jan 26 04:00:42 2018 From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:00:42 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps accuracy In-Reply-To: <38222583.646531.1516745447189@mail.yahoo.com> References: <38222583.646531.1516745447189.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <38222583.646531.1516745447189@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003f01d3965a$3cad4dd0$b607e970$@mypbmail.com> Thank you Dale for your comments. Good questions. I will try to answer them. I think part of the confusion described may be the result of just the process of launching a new amateur CubeSat with other CubeSats. CubeSats in the 1U format (4 x 4 inch) are launched in groups of typically 3 objects. Unavoidably, the placing in orbit of a new CubeSat is followed by the process of determining which object in a "flock" of CubeSats is the satellite in which you are interested. This is a usually relatively short (5 to 10 day) period of tracking a group of CubeSats until they separate enough to isolate the one of interest. A spectrum analyzer program is used to identify which object is our satellite. Also a set of "PRE-Launch" TLEs (that is calculation based on the EXPECTED orbit at launch) are usually produced by the launching entity. The "PRE-Launch" TLEs are used until POST-Launch TLEs (for the group of objects that your satellite is in) are released from the Space-Track website. The POST-Launch TLEs released from Space-Track are determined by tracking sensors of the U.S. Air Force. Finally, your satellite and its associated TLEs are determined and we settle down to an single, accurate, reliable set of TLEs ... and all the other "best guesses" go away. (Although they may be still floating around on the internet.) But, there are so many variables (did you launch on time, did you get released on time, has the group your CubeSat is in separated enough to identify your satellite, etc.) that the process that can be both confusing and annoying at the same time. Remember, we did not pay for this ride and it took a lot of work to get our University sponsor and us on that rocket. In spite of all the hassle, it is still very much worth the effort. The source for AMSAT-NA TLEs (or KEPS) is from the Space-Track website (www.space-track.org). This is the most reliable and the most accurate primary data (not filtered through another website) available on a continuing basis. This data is used to keep track of the cloud of objects that circle our Earth, so accuracy is a major concern for Space-Track. Anyone who has watched the International Space Station (ISS) suddenly appear sunlit in a dark sky (right on time and in the predicted place) knows how accurate these TLEs are. TLE data is updated on a continual basis and that depends on when the object is available to the Air Force tracking sensors. Most objects cannot change their orbits and have orbits that do not change radically over a seven day period. Thus weekly updates are completely adequate with one exception. The ISS is an example of an object that has the ability to change its orbit. Thus the TLEs for the ISS are updated more frequently. The weekly AMSAT-NA TLE distribution is updated every Thursday evening (CST) and is available from the AMSAT website www.amsat.org under the dropdown menu , . Look under "Current Bulletins" and click the blue HyperText "NASA (2-line) format elements". You can have an email with these TLE's send to you every Thursday evening by signing up for the KEPS mailing list. Under the same heading "Current Bulletins", click on the blue HyperText "Keps mailing list". Go down to the heading "Subscribing to Keps" and follow the instructions to sign up. You can also get a TLE element set with the ISS TLEs updated at least twice a day by going to the "Keplerian Elements Resources" website page as discussed above and under the heading "Current Bulletins" click on the blue HyperText "NASA (2-line) stripped of headers". This TLE data on the ISS is updated based data from NASA's Johnson Space Flight Center. Ray Hoad WA5QGD Orbital Elements Manager I see all these (hard to follow) AMSAT-BB postings about Keps implying there is NO ONE site that has accurate Keps. That we need to get this from here or that from there and combine to make a KEP.TLE for our programs. Is there no HAM SAT Keps that are complete & accurate? I was under the impression the AMSAT Keps were the most accurate for HAM SATs? Is that true or not, and if not, WHY? AMSAT Keps - when are they updated? If daily - what time? How often should Users update their program Keps? I Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From helmet.head22 at gmail.com Fri Jan 26 00:54:10 2018 From: helmet.head22 at gmail.com (Brian Helm) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 18:54:10 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking to connect with other FT847 users on linear sats In-Reply-To: References: <6A724D9C-5BE3-48A7-B36B-F6880B6DE974@gmail.com> Message-ID: <626506DA-C3D7-41B1-9BBA-C46EA3C565EA@gmail.com> > I can see how my sentence was confusing...sorry > > I'm trying to find other people who use the FT 847 for making contacts on the linear satellites. Not to discuss while on the air, but to connect through email or phone or whatever to talk to them about the 847 quirks and settings and possible improvements. From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Fri Jan 26 12:52:33 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 07:52:33 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps accuracy In-Reply-To: <003f01d3965a$3cad4dd0$b607e970$@mypbmail.com> References: <38222583.646531.1516745447189.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <38222583.646531.1516745447189@mail.yahoo.com> <003f01d3965a$3cad4dd0$b607e970$@mypbmail.com> Message-ID: <0b8801d396a4$8894c350$99be49f0$@mindspring.com> >Remember, we did not pay for this ride and it took a lot of work to get our University sponsor and us on that rocket. Great response Ray, but I have to correct this point. AMSAT, and AMSAT alone, paid for the launch of Fox-1Cliff (this summer) and Fox-1D, via a contract with Spaceflight Services. Donations to AMSAT in support of this expense are very much welcome. AO-85, AO-91, and Fox-1E were or will be NASA sponsored ELANA launches. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations From jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu Fri Jan 26 14:51:48 2018 From: jfitzgerald at alum.wpi.edu (Joe Fitzgerald) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 09:51:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps accuracy Message-ID: Ray Hoad wrote: >Thus weekly updates are completely adequate with one exception. >The ISS is an example of an object that has the ability to >change its orbit. Thus the TLEs for the ISS are updated more frequently. Another motivation for frequent TLE updates for ISS is the narrow beamwidths of dish antennas used for 2395 MHz HamTV. Even without orbital maneuvers ISS TLE accuracy can degrade enough to cause antenna pointing problems within a week. de KM1P Joe From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Jan 26 17:08:28 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 12:08:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS News Release no. 18-02 Message-ID: <9B3D1C16F6F74258BBE2ED0B6E02A7CD@DHJ> ARISS NEWS RELEASE no. 18-02 Jan 26, 2018 David Jordan, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org ARISS APRS Packet Currently Non-Operational An unidentified anomaly involving the radio serving the ARISS APRS Packet System on board the ISS has led to the system not functioning. A similar problem has occurred on other occasions and solutions that resolved the problem proved to be only temporary fixes. The system may return to service as it has in the past or it may have finally failed completely. ARISS sees the delivery of the interoperable radio system as the true solution to securing our ARISS packet operation. Current target period for delivery and installation of the replacement system is Fall 2018. In the meantime, ARISS continues to investigate the problem and seek opportunities to resolve the issue. The ARISS team knows many amateur radio operators really enjoy using the ARISS APRS packet system, and thanks everyone for understanding the issues involved with not having it available. About ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Join us on Facebook: Amateur Radio on the ISS (ARISS) Follow us on Twitter: ARISS_status --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com Fri Jan 26 16:41:06 2018 From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 10:41:06 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps accuracy In-Reply-To: <0b8801d396a4$8894c350$99be49f0$@mindspring.com> References: <38222583.646531.1516745447189.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <38222583.646531.1516745447189@mail.yahoo.com> <003f01d3965a$3cad4dd0$b607e970$@mypbmail.com> <0b8801d396a4$8894c350$99be49f0$@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <000e01d396c4$771d1f30$65575d90$@mypbmail.com> Oops. I did miss that. But the mention of needed donations to AMSAT in support of our launches is worth it! Ray Hoad WA5QGD Orbital Elements Manager -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Glasbrenner [mailto:glasbrenner at mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 06:53 To: 'Ray Hoad' ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Keps accuracy >Remember, we did not pay for this ride and it took a lot of work to get our University sponsor and us on that rocket. Great response Ray, but I have to correct this point. AMSAT, and AMSAT alone, paid for the launch of Fox-1Cliff (this summer) and Fox-1D, via a contract with Spaceflight Services. Donations to AMSAT in support of this expense are very much welcome. AO-85, AO-91, and Fox-1E were or will be NASA sponsored ELANA launches. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations From py4zbz at gmail.com Fri Jan 26 16:23:47 2018 From: py4zbz at gmail.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:23:47 -0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Message from PicSat Message-ID: Today I got the following message from PicSat: R.F. ..All things are made of atoms; little particles that move around in perpetual motion, attracting each other when they are a little distance apart, but repelling upon being squeezed into one another. 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From povern at yahoo.com Fri Jan 26 22:59:58 2018 From: povern at yahoo.com (Paul Overn) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 16:59:58 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-817 with System Fusion Message-ID: <0A89229F-2384-49BC-B80C-0B37A31DDE07@yahoo.com> Looking for a portable radio that I can do linear sats with. I settled on an ft-817, then I went to my club meeting last night and saw a demo on system fusion. Does anyone know if Yaesu makes a radio that will work for the linear sats, that also can do system fusion? Thanks Sent from my iPad From matthew at mrstevens.net Fri Jan 26 23:21:59 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 23:21:59 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-817 with System Fusion In-Reply-To: <0A89229F-2384-49BC-B80C-0B37A31DDE07@yahoo.com> References: <0A89229F-2384-49BC-B80C-0B37A31DDE07@yahoo.com> Message-ID: The FT-991. I know a few people who use them for sats, including K3RRR I believe. 73, nj4y On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 18:00 Paul Overn via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Looking for a portable radio that I can do linear sats with. I settled on > an ft-817, then I went to my club meeting last night and saw a demo on > system fusion. > > Does anyone know if Yaesu makes a radio that will work for the linear > sats, that also can do system fusion? > > Thanks > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- - Matthew From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Fri Jan 26 19:43:33 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:43:33 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter Message-ID: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> For those who receive the DKARS magazine, there is a very interesting article. The transceiver described is for ATV, but it looks like like it will tune to the AO-92 uplink frequency. Seems to put out 400mw FM out. I am not able to take time now to review deeper (stealing away from work) but I look forward to parsing through the schematic/links this weekend. I am forwarding this notice for anyone who will be able to get there sooner. I think there is some potential here, and I would like to know other? opinions. Www.dkars.nl 73 Brad WF7T Nashville TN EM66 From matthew at mrstevens.net Sat Jan 27 04:06:35 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 04:06:35 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G5500 + LVB tracker for sale In-Reply-To: <45858E50-DF04-48CF-A37C-B60037B3D215@mrstevens.net> References: <45858E50-DF04-48CF-A37C-B60037B3D215@mrstevens.net> Message-ID: The rotor has been sold. Thank you for the interest! 73, nj4y On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 09:07 Matthew Stevens wrote: > I have a like-new G5500 and LVB tracker for sale. I bought it last year > with intentions to install an automated station, but it has sat in the > garage and taken up space long enough. Everything is in excellent shape and > works as it is supposed to, I only used it once during field day 2017. > > Included is the LVB tracker, alt-az rotor, and control box for the G5500. > I?m asking $650 + real shipping cost (local pickup would obviously be > easiest). > > If you can pick up locally, I also have rotor control cables made up and 2 > M2 fiberglass arms for the antennas for $50 more. > > I?ll be at Hamcation in Orlando on Saturday, Feb 10 and can bring > everything with me if anyone would like to pick it up there. > > Email me direct for photos and more info. > > - Matthew nj4y > > Sent from my iPhone -- - Matthew From hartzell at gmail.com Sat Jan 27 17:16:12 2018 From: hartzell at gmail.com (Dave Hartzell) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:16:12 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps Question from Rocket Lab launch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like 2018-010D is the best fit (now) for Humanity Star.... On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Wendy and Terry Osborne < wandtosborne at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I have found a set of Keps from yesterday?s Rocket Lab launch. > > 2018-010A > 1 43163U 18010A 18021.87397025 .00000319 -10052-5 00000+0 0 9996 > 2 43163 82.9164 138.6720 0176456 219.4667 139.3657 15.51933178 120 > 2018-010B > 1 43164U 18010B 18021.89134907 .00000035 00000-0 00000+0 0 9998 > 2 43164 82.9271 138.6991 0029255 248.8502 110.7671 15.17838339 122 > 2018-010C > 1 43165U 18010C 18021.95720165 .00000036 00000-0 00000+0 0 9994 > 2 43165 82.9208 138.6356 0031890 240.7480 118.8502 15.17897039 137 > 2018-010D > 1 43166U 18010D 18021.93802473 .00000320 -10083-5 00000+0 0 9990 > 2 43166 82.9232 138.6174 0172791 220.0084 138.7693 15.52599809 135 > 2018-010E > 1 43167U 18010E 18021.89220116 .00000035 00000-0 00000+0 0 9999 > 2 43167 82.9254 138.6995 0024458 245.8147 114.0537 15.16199901 124 > 2018-010F > 1 43168U 18010F 18021.87420109 .00000318 -10038-5 00000+0 0 9994 > 2 43168 82.9247 138.6716 0176956 220.2187 138.6723 15.51608672 128 > > They appear to be in 2 groups. > 2018-010A, 2018-010D and 2018-010F are close together. > Similarly 2018-010B, 2018-010C and 2018-010E are close together. > > I suspect that A,D and F are the satellites and B,C and E are the Rocket > body and debris. > Is there any way of confirming which is which? > > Or does anyone have the downlink frequencies for Dove Pioneer or Lemur-2? > > 73, > > Terry ZL2BAC > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From jim at beeson.cc Sat Jan 27 19:08:23 2018 From: jim at beeson.cc (jim at beeson.cc) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 14:08:23 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-726R lithium battery replacement In-Reply-To: References: <1124749719.360135.1516900951721.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1124749719.360135.1516900951721@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <69adf8f34a20dfadbc754634a43b4df5.squirrel@webmail04.register.com> Has anyone ever replaced the lithium battery (to keep memory in tact with power off) in the Yeasu FT-726R transceiver? If so was it difficult and do you remember the battery number? 73's Jim WA5QAP ? From w9gb at icloud.com Sat Jan 27 19:25:15 2018 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:25:15 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3D-print L-band Helical feed support Message-ID: <7C38B217-81B2-400B-ABDA-5BFEEC1DD8F0@icloud.com> Hack-A-Day featured this project two months ago. 3D PRINTED HELICAL SATCOM FEED Tom Nardi was targeting 1.5 GHz satcom usage with his RTL-SDR https://hackaday.com/2017/11/09/3d-printed-helical-satcom-feed/ greg, w9gb Sent from iPad Air From w9gb at icloud.com Sat Jan 27 19:50:06 2018 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:50:06 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] 3D-print L-band Helical feed support Message-ID: Here are the 3D print files, at Thingverse. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2627680/#files Sent from iPad Air From pconver at gmail.com Sat Jan 27 20:09:35 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:09:35 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Argentina PicoBalloon 1st Orbit Message-ID: LU1ESY 25mW/25gr WSPR PicoBalloon launched on 01/19 is completing its first orbit. This PicoBalloon is celebrating LUSAT 28th aniversary, pictures at http://amsat.org.ar/globo09.htm Can be tracket from: https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=3&qm=All&mc=-48.39023,-140.21&q=lu1esy-3 https://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FLU1ESY-3&timerange=604800&tail=604800 http://lu7aa.org.ar/wspr.asp 73, LU7AA, Amsat Argentina www.amsat.org.ar From g0kla at arrl.net Sun Jan 28 01:30:18 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:30:18 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Version 1.06 Released Message-ID: ?I am releasing version 1.06 of FoxTelem today. This release addresses several defects and instabilities in FoxTelem 1.05 and earlier. It also introduces a new Earth Plot that allows any telemetry value to be plotted as a heat map against a map of the earth. For more details about the Earth Plot and some example plots, you can read a quick tutorial that I have written here: http://www.g0kla.com/workbench/2018-01-26.php As always, let me know if you see any issues or log them on github at https://github.com/ac2cz/FoxTelem/issues KEY CHANGES ~~~~~~~~~~~ * EARTH PLOTS allow you to plot any telemetry value as a heat map on a map of the earth * Allow graphs and telemetry results to be searched with UTC dates and for ranges of uptime/dates * Allow stepping through the telemetry with up/down arrows * Prevent hang when decoder starts if FCD returns an error * Fixed bug where TLEs were not updated in the name is changed in the spacecraft settings window * Fixed crashes introduced in 1.05 release * Display all HERCI High Speed payloads when Raw Byte Payloads showm * Fix bug where missing TLE disables spacecraft from being tracked at all * Fixes bug where DDE connection to SatPC32 fails with European decimal point format * Add MPPT calibration values for Fox-1D * Improved the RF signal measurements * Improved the Find Signal algorithm * Space graph labels more evenly * Put the spacecraft tabs in FoxId order And many other bug fixes. Full list of changes here: https://github.com/ac2cz/FoxTelem/milestone/3?closed=1 ? -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From g0kla at arrl.net Sun Jan 28 01:49:48 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:49:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Version 1.06 Released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As always, you can download FoxTelem here: http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/windows/foxtelem_1.06j_windows.zip http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/linux/foxtelem_1.06j_linux.tar.gz http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/mac/foxtelem_1.06j_macOs.tar.gz 73 Chris On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:30 PM, Chris Thompson wrote: > > ?I am releasing version 1.06 of FoxTelem today. This release addresses > several defects and instabilities in FoxTelem 1.05 and earlier. It also > introduces a new Earth Plot that allows any telemetry value to be plotted > as a heat map > against a map of the earth. For more details about the Earth Plot and > some example plots, you can read a quick tutorial that I have written here: > http://www.g0kla.com/workbench/2018-01-26.php > > As always, let me know if you see any issues or log them on github at > https://github.com/ac2cz/FoxTelem/issues > > KEY CHANGES > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > * EARTH PLOTS allow you to plot any telemetry value as a heat map on a > map of the earth > * Allow graphs and telemetry results to be searched with UTC dates and for > ranges of uptime/dates > * Allow stepping through the telemetry with up/down arrows > * Prevent hang when decoder starts if FCD returns an error > * Fixed bug where TLEs were not updated in the name is changed in the > spacecraft > settings window > * Fixed crashes introduced in 1.05 release > * Display all HERCI High Speed payloads when Raw Byte Payloads showm > * Fix bug where missing TLE disables spacecraft from being tracked at all > * Fixes bug where DDE connection to SatPC32 fails with European decimal > point > format > * Add MPPT calibration values for Fox-1D > * Improved the RF signal measurements > * Improved the Find Signal algorithm > * Space graph labels more evenly > * Put the spacecraft tabs in FoxId order > > And many other bug fixes. Full list of changes here: > https://github.com/ac2cz/FoxTelem/milestone/3?closed=1 > ? > > -- > Chris E. Thompson > chrisethompson at gmail.com > g0kla at arrl.net > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From k9jkm at comcast.net Sun Jan 28 02:29:06 2018 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:29:06 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-028 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <5a7f5dd2-6e46-940f-d0a8-a8938bb2719a@comcast.net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-028 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans In this edition: * AO-92 Commissioned, Open for Amateur Use * AMSAT Membership Deal and Getting Started * FoxTelem Version 1.06 Software Released * GOLF-TEE $15,000 Matching Funds President?s Challenge * AMSAT Rover Award Up and Running - Already Up to #7 Awarded * D-Star ONE v.1.1 Phoenix Satellite Planned for Launch February 1 * AO-91 QSO Two YLs Meet on the Air * Two More US Schools/Groups Move Into Phase 2 of ARISS Selections * ARISS APRS Packet Currently Non-Operational * ARISS School Contact First for Cyprus * PicSat Requests Amateur Radio Assistance to Capture/Upload Telemetry * AO-73 Operating Schedule Changes Announced * Volunteer Opportunity - Openings for News Service Rotating Editor * AMSAT Argentina LU1ESY-3 WSPR Balloon Flight Heading Out of Africa * OR4ESA Redu Ground Station Belgium on the Air Until February 6 * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-028.01 ANS-028 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 028.01 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE January 28, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-028.01 AO-92 Commissioned, Open for Amateur Use On the 03:25 UTC pass on January 26, 2018, AMSAT Vice President ? Engineering Jerry Buxton, N0JY, announced that AO-92 had been commissioned and formally turned the satellite over to AMSAT Operations. AMSAT Vice President ? Operations Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, then declared that AO-92 was now open for amateur use. Initially, the U/v FM transponder will be open continuously for a period of one week. After the first week, operations will be scheduled between the U/v FM transponder, L-Band Downshifter, Virginia Tech Camera, and the University of Iowa?s High Energy Radiation CubeSat Instrument (HERCI). Schedule updates will appear in the AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins and will also be posted to the AMSAT-BB, AMSAT?s Twitter account (@AMSAT), the AMSAT North America Facebook group, and the AMSAT website at https://www.amsat.org/satellite-schedules/ AO-92 was launched on the PSLV-C40 mission from Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India on January 12, 2018. For the past two weeks, the AMSAT Engineering and Operations teams have been testing the various modes and experiments on board. Testing has shown that both the U/v FM transponder and L-Band Downshifter work very well. The Virginia Tech camera has returned stunning photos and data from HERCI has been successfully downlinked. AMSAT thanks the 178 stations worldwide that have used FoxTelem to collect telemetry and experiment data from AO-92 during the commissioning process. The collection of this data is crucial to the missions of AMSAT?s Fox-1 satellites. Please continue to collect data from AO-85, AO-91, and AO-92. RADIO PROGRAMMING CHART Fox-1D Doppler Shift Correction Memory 1 (AOS)???? - TX 435.340 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 2 (Rise)??? - TX 435.345 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 3 (TCA)???? - TX 435.350 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 4 (Descend) - TX 435.355 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz Memory 5 (LOS)???? - TX 435.360 MHz (67.0 Hz Tone), RX 145.880 MHz The L-band experiment will use 1267.350 MHz uplink with 145.880 MHz downlink. UHF and L-band uplink operation are set by the command stations; the operating schedule will be posted. [ANS thanks AMSAT Vice-President Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N?JY, ?AMSAT Vice President Operatings Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, and AMSAT ?Executive Vice President Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Membership Deal and Getting Started AMSAT membership supports the organization and construction of new satellites. Right now, we are offering a free PDF copy of our Getting Started with Amateur Satellites with every new on-line membership. This is -the- primer for getting on the sats, and is updated every year. See https://www.amsat.org/product-category/amsat-membership/ AMSAT also sells both the popular Arrow Antenna satellite models and the M2 LEOpack antennas. Sales also benefit AMSAT projects. https://www.amsat.org/product-category/hardware/ [ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- FoxTelem Version 1.06 Software Released Chris, G0KLA, has released version 1.06 of FoxTelem on January 27. This release addresses several defects and instabilities in FoxTelem version 1.05 and earlier. It also introduces a new Earth Plot that allows any telemetry value to be plotted as a heat map against a map of the earth. For more details about the Earth Plot and some example plots, you can read a quick tutorial posted at: http://www.g0kla.com/workbench/2018-01-26.php As always, let Chris know if you see any issues or log them on github at https://github.com/ac2cz/FoxTelem/issues KEY CHANGES ~~~~~~~~~~~ * EARTH PLOTS allow you to plot any telemetry value as a heat map ? on a map of the earth * Allow graphs and telemetry results to be searched with UTC dates ? and for ranges of uptime/dates * Allow stepping through the telemetry with up/down arrows * Prevent hang when decoder starts if FCD returns an error * Fixed bug where TLEs were not updated in the name is changed ? in the spacecraft settings window * Fixed crashes introduced in 1.05 release * Display all HERCI High Speed payloads when Raw Byte Payloads shown * Fix bug where missing TLE disables spacecraft from being tracked ? at all * Fixes bug where DDE connection to SatPC32 fails with European ? decimal point format * Add MPPT calibration values for Fox-1D * Improved the RF signal measurements * Improved the Find Signal algorithm * Space graph labels more evenly * Put the spacecraft tabs in FoxId order And many other bug fixes. Full list of changes here: https://github.com/ac2cz/FoxTelem/milestone/3?closed=1 [ANS thanks FoxTelem author Chris, G0KLA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- GOLF-TEE $15,000 Matching Funds President?s Challenge In October 2017 AMSAT announced the GOLF (Greater Orbit, Larger Foot- print) program. The first project of the GOLF program is a technology demonstrator named GOLF-TEE (Technology Evaluation Environment). The design is a 3U CubeSat with deployable solar panels, ADAC (attitude determination and control), Software Defined Radio (SDR) Transponder, and a Vanderbilt University Low Energy Proton (LEP) experiment. Now is the time to begin work on the GOLF-TEE Project. At the end of 2017, AMSAT has generous offers from two AMSAT Past Presidents for matching funds up to $15,000 for those that contribute to the GOLF-TEE campaign at: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=STK27W4G9RMLC (Shortened URL without linewrap: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-028-PayPal-GOLF-Donation ) between now and Feb- ruary 15th. Make your donation twice as valuable by taking advantage of this opportunity and contributing, and help AMSAT fund the launch of the next series of satellites of the GOLF program. There are also donate buttons for GOLF-TEE on the AMSAT website. Planning is for a launch in 2019. Donations of $100 and $1,000 or more will be eligible for a special AMSAT GOLF premium. (Both premiums are currently being designed, so please be patient awaiting delivery.) AMSAT is a 501-(c)-(3) not-for-profit educational and scientific organization of amateur radio operators whose purpose is to design, construct, launch, and operate satellites in space and to provide the support needed to encourage amateurs to utilize these resources. Please consider a tax-deductible contribution to AMSAT to help under- write the development and launch expenses of our GOLF satellite program. Donors wishing to provide additional matching funds please contact Joe Spier, K6WAO at k6wao at amsat.org. (ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information) --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Rover Award Up and Running - Already Up to #7 Awarded On January 1, 2018, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director Contests and Awards announced the Rover Award. This award is granted to stations who achieve a combined 25 points using any combination of the defined criteria posted at: https://www.amsat.org/amsat-rover-award/ Bruce says the AMSAT Rover Award is up to #7 - Congrats to Jose, N7AGF, Rover Award #007. Points can be earned for each grid square activated outside of your home grid square using the FM, linear, and digital satellites. While FM contacts count for 1 point each multiplier points are available for contacts via the linear and digital satellites. Additional points are available for photographs, publicity, social media promotion, and AMSAT Journal articles. The options are numerous so please refer to the Rover Award Website for all of the details. Keep on roving! [ANS thanks AMSAT Director Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, ?for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- D-Star ONE v.1.1 Phoenix Satellite Planned for Launch February 1 German Orbital Systems GmbH (GOS) and iSky Technology s.r.o. (iSky) have announced a revival of the D-Star ONE satellite project to replace their satellite lost as a result of a failed launch of the Roscosmos Meteor-M No.2-1 meteorological mission on November 28, 2017. GOS and iSky said their teams were actively working together during the Christmas and New Year holidays, and are now happy to announce that they we have completed the assembly and final checks of a replacement satellite named D-Star ONE v.1.1 Phoenix satellite. The project is Phoenix as symbol of the rebirth and revival of the project. The launch of D-Star ONE v.1.1 Phoenix plans to launch on a Soyuz-2/Fregat rocket for the launch from the Vostochny launch site on February 1, 2018. D-Star repeater & beacon frequencies: Uplink:?? 437.325MHz Downlink: 435.525MHz RF-Power: 800mW Additional information will be posted at: http://www.d-star.one/ -and- http://www.orbitalsystems.de/d-star-one-second-birth/?lang=en Spaceflightinsider.com published an article about successful final testing on D-Star ONE: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-316-Spaceflightinsider www.spaceflightinsider.com) [ANS thanks the D-Star ONE Team for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AO-91 QSO Two YLs Meet on the Air Jeff Johns, WE4B, tweeted about the satellite contact via AO-91 his daughter Marissa, W4AQT, completed with Alyssa and her dad Charlie Azofeifa, TI2CDA. Jeff said Alyssa had seen Marissa's QRZ page and it turns out they are both Harry Potter, Pete the Cat and Minecraft fans and she wanted to get Marissa's QSL card. Charlie and I looked for favorable passes and decided the 18:16z pass of AO-91 on 1/20/2018 would be our first attempt to have the girls make contact. Marissa and dad Jeff went outside with radios and our Arrow antenna and waited for AO-91 to crest the horizon. As soon as they could hear the bird, W4AQT started calling TI2CDA. After a few calls, there was Alyssa with Charlie serving as the control op. The girls had a very sweet, quick QSO. Jeff wrote, "Ham radio is supposed to be about learning and progressing the radio art but it's also about forming friendships, even if they are long distance friendships. I have no doubt that this will not be the last time that Marissa and Alyssa have a QSO and I am confident that Alyssa will soon get her own license as Marissa is almost ready to take her General exam. I was fortunate that my daughter became inter- ested in amateur radio when she would go outside with me and listen to me talking to other hams with my Arrow antenna pointed at the sky. Now that she's licensed, it's allowed us to have some great father and daughter time together, as well as, providing her some excellent STEM education." Jeff's post on the QRZ.com satellite forum and photos can be seen at: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-028-AO91-YL-QSO [ANS thanks Jeff Johns, WE4B for the above information and congratulates ?Marissa, W4AQT on her satellite QSO] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Two More US Schools/Groups Move Into Phase 2 of ARISS Selections January 13, 2018 ? The ARISS-US team (Amateur Radio on the Inte national Space Station) is pleased to announce that two more US schools or organizations have had their ARISS proposals selected for advancement to the next stage of planning for amateur radio contacts in 2018. These schools will take advantage of new scheduling opportunities to speak? with International Space Station (ISS) crew members using the ARISS equipment. The selected schools submitted proposals before the proposal window closed last November and join the 13 schools and groups chosen a few weeks ago.? The two extra scheduling opportunities are special events thanks to ARISS?s two major sponsors, the NASA Space Communications and Navigation group and the Center for the Advance- ment of Science in Space. The events that the schools? students will travel to are aerospace conferences where their ARISS radio contacts will be a highlight open to conference attendees. The schools and venues are: + Quest for Space/Quest Institute for Quality Education in San Jose, ? California, whose ARISS contact will be featured at the ISS R&D ? Conference, July 23-26 in San Francisco, California + Burns Science & Technical Charter School in Oak Hill, Florida, ? whose ARISS contact will be featured at the S.P.A.C.E. Conference, ? July 11-13 at NASA?s Kennedy Space Center. ARISS?s primary goal is to engage young people in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) activities, and to involve them in activi- ties related to space exploration, amateur radio, communications, and areas of associated study and career possibilities. ABOUT ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a coop- erative venture of the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) in the United States, and other international space agencies and international amateur radio organizations around the world. The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers from amateur radio clubs and coordination from the ARISS team, the ISS crew members speak directly with large group audiences in a variety of public forums such as school assemblies, science centers and museums, Scout camporees, jamborees and space camps, where students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technol- ogies and Amateur Radio. Find more information at www.ariss.org, www.amsat.organd www.arrl.org. [ANS thanks ARISS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS APRS Packet Currently Non-Operational ARISS NEWS RELEASE no. 18-02 January 26, 2018 David Jordan, AA4KN, ARISS PR An unidentified anomaly involving the radio serving the ARISS APRS Packet System on board the ISS has led to the system not functioning. A similar problem has occurred on other occasions and solutions that resolved the problem proved to be only temporary fixes. The system may return to service as it has in the past or it may have finally failed completely. ARISS sees the delivery of the interoperable radio system as the true solution to securing our ARISS packet operation. Current target period for delivery and installation of the replacement system is Fall 2018. In the meantime, ARISS continues to investigate the problem and seek opportunities to resolve the issue. The ARISS team knows many amateur radio operators really enjoy using the ARISS APRS packet system, and thanks everyone for understanding the issues involved with not having it available. [ANS thanks ARISS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS School Contact First for Cyprus For the first time, students in Cyprus spoke live with an astronaut on the International Space Station orbiting the Earth on January 24. A video of this historic event can be viewed at: https://youtu.be/RJvDskycyj4?t=52m The English School has established significant partnerships with the Cyprus Amateur Radio Society and the Kition Planetarium & Observatory who have been assisting throughout the long preparation period, while Cyta, PM-ICT Solutions with Polycom and Delta Electronics will offer their specialised technical assistance. Also, Alpha Cyprus is the media sponsor for the event. The English School thanks them all on behalf of the student ?adventurers? who are thrilled by this great opportunity! [ANS thanks ARISS for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- PicSat Requests Amateur Radio Assistance to Capture/Upload Telemetry Cubesat PicSat was launched on the same PSLV-C40 flight from India that delivered AO-92 to orbit. PicSat is a nano-satellite aimed at observing the transit of the young exoplanet Beta Pictoris b in front of its bright and equally young star Beta Pictoris, and at demonstrating an innovative technological concept to use optical fibres for astronomical observations from Space. The cubesat contains an embedded FM transponder. It will be avail- able when possible during the mission. Frequency information: Uplink FM???? 145.910 MHz?? 1750 Hz tone when in amateur mode Downlink FM?? 435.525 MHz?? 9k6 BPSK AX25 Data and FM voice ??????????????????????????? when in amateur mode (Despite the documentation, PicSat beacons so far have been 1k2 BPSK.) There is a 1k2 BPSK software modem in: http://uz7.ho.ua/modem_beta/other-versions.zip A report posted by K4KDR advises to receive using upper sideband with the audio output centered on the middle of the passband. A description of the telemetry and related information are available on https://picsat.obspm.fr/data/telemetries?locale=en. This week the PicSat team requested amateur radio assistance to capture and upload telemetry packets from the satellite. Beacons received from all over the world are especially useful to monitor the status of satellite along its orbit (and not just when it is above our own station). Science data are obviously useful for the science mission. And all other packets, even when they do not look like much, can be of great importance! For example, we often receive satellite acknowledgements to our commands from ground station in France or Europe which are listening at the same time as us. It may look useless, but it is not. We regularly miss those packets our- selves, so it is good to have other people receiving them and sending them to us. There are three ways to send your data. The options for your upload will become available on your profile tab after registration at their website: https://picsat.obspm.fr/connexion?locale=en. Full details of the packet uploading procedure are posted at: https://picsat.obspm.fr/contributing/send-packets?locale=en + Fast upload beacon: mainly intended as a way to directly upload ? a beacon by copy/paste when you receive, and to get an immediate ? overview of the satellite status. When you are a new user, this ? is also the only way you can upload a packet. Upload one beacon ? successfully, and you will have access to the other methods! ? This page accepts a hexadecimal string, like "0123456789ABCDEF" in ? which whitespaces and upper/lower case are ignored ("01 23 45 67 ? 89 ab cd ef", or even something like "0 1 234 56789 aBc dEf" will ? be accepted). The hexadecimal string must represent the AX.25 packet ? (without flags), possibly KISS encapsulated (starting with "C0 00" ? and ending with "C0") + Upload data: this can be used to upload files containing multiple ? packets at once. The files are stored on our servers, and processed ? daily. + SiDS requests: This will be implemented in the near future. PicSat shares a similar orbit with AO-91 since they were both deployed at approximately the same time. PicSat has been included in the 2 line Keplerian Elements distributions. On-line orbit predications for PicSat can be found at: https://picsat.obspm.fr/operations/orbital-map?locale=en. PicSat news and information is presented in their on-line video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BadAt92qHdU [ANS thanks the PicSat Team for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AO-73 Operating Schedule Changes Announced The FUNcube Operations Team says that AO73 will shortly be entering full sun light. Already the eclipse periods are only 11/12 minutes every orbit.Current predictions indicate that full sun will commence on February 6 and last through until March 14. The FUNcube autonomous, on-board, scheduling system is based upons witching modes when entering and leaving eclipses, was not designed for this situation. The scheduling system will therefore not be suit able for operations over the next few months. In line with the recently published plan, AO73 was switched to continuous amateur mode earlier commencing Thursday morning and will stay in this mode until Sunday night or Monday morning. We expect that this schedule will continue until mid April. The next full sun periods are then expected to return again in late August. Further info is available at https://funcube.org.uk/news/ [ANS thanks Graham G3VZV and the FUNcube Operations Team for the ?above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Volunteer Opportunity - Openings for News Service Rotating Editor If you're open to volunteering to help AMSAT this is your chance! We have openings for a few volunteers willing to help as an AMSAT News Service editor. Our editors work on a rotating schedule with each taking turns as the current week's news editor. Using input received from members, the amateur radio community, officers, plus our other editors your job is to assemble the AMSAT News Service bulletin for your week. (Template is provided to help you format the message.) If you can help contact our Senior News Service Editor, Lee McLamb, KT4TZ via his e-mail: kt4tz at amsat.org (Ed. note: the need for at least one, hopefully many volunteer ?editors, is immediate. K9JKM will be retiring at the end of March ?with extensive travel plans, often out of reach of the internet.) [ANS thanks the AMSAT News Service for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Argentina LU1ESY-3 WSPR Balloon Flight Heading Out of Africa AMSAT-LU (Argentina) advises that as part of LUSAT's 28th aniversary celebrations, Ignacio, LU1ESY, launched a PicoBalloon on January 19 from Villa Gessell, Argentina. Floating at 12 KM height, it crossed the South Atlantic Ocean, left South Africa, and last reports show it some 500 km SSE from Madagascar, hopefully heading to Australia and New Zealand. It is transmitting as LU1ESY-3 on 14075.6 KHz WSPR, 25 mW, 25 gram payload using a WB8ELK tracker. As of January 27, LU7AA reports that the balloon has completed one orbit around the world. The APRS track can be followed on aprs.fi: https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FLU1ESY-3&timerange=604800&tail=604800 and also at http://lu7aa.org/wspr.asp Pictures on http://amsat.org.ar/globo09.htm and http://amsat.org.ar Thanks to hams in Antartica, South Africa and Namibia for their WSPR captures & upload to http://wsprnet.org . [ANS thanks AMSAT Argentina for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- OR4ESA Redu Ground Station Belgium on the Air Until February 6 Javier Roldan, EA1HEO, will be activating OR4ESA from the ESA Redu Ground Station in Belgium from the 16th of January until the 6th of February 2018. He is taking advantage of a visit to the site during refurbishment of the 15m dish S-Band antenna. OR4ESA is the temporary special callsign for the activation at the European Space Agency (ESA) - Redu Site and Satellite Tracking Station in Redu, Belgium. (Grid locator: JO20na) Javier will try to be on the air daily (Monday to Friday) in the evening after work approximately 18:00 - 21:00 UTC both in SSB and in digital modes. Digital modes will be mainly PSK31 and RTTY as QRP. The contacts are valid for the ESA Amateur Radio Award (2 points per first QSO per mode and band). All the QSOs will be uploaded to LoTW, eQSL, Clublog, HRDLog and QRZ.com. He prefers electronic QSLs as they are faster, cheaper, easier to archive and they are more friendly to the environment. Paper QSLs should be sent via bureau or direct to DL0ESA. Please include SASE and $1 USD Europe, $2 USD outside Europe. Paper QSLs will only be sent in reply to the ones received. All details of the activation can be found in www.qrz.com/db/OR4ESA [ANS thanks Javier Roldan, EA1HEO and OR4ESA for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ESA Announces Winners Cubesat to the Moon Competition The European Space Agency has announced two cubesat project teams as winners of a competition to send cubesats to the moon. + The Lunar Meteoroid Impact Orbiter, or Lumio for short, would ? circle over the far side of the Moon to detect bright impact ? flashes during the lunar night, mapping meteoroid bombardments ? as they occur. + The other, the Lunar Volatile and Mineralogy Mapping Orbiter, or ? VMMO, would focus on a permanently shadowed crater near the lunar ? south pole, searching out deposits of water ice and other volatiles ? of interest to future colonists, while also measuring lunar radiation. The impact-tracking Lumio is a single 12-unit CubeSat, conceived by a consortium including Politecnico di Milano; TU Delft, EPFL, S[&]T Norway, Leonardo-Finnmeccanica and the University of Arizona. VMMO, developed by MPB Communications Inc, Surrey Space Centre, Univer- sity of Winnipeg and Lens R&D, also adopts a 12-unit CubeSat design. Its miniaturised laser would probe its primary target of Shackleton Crater, adjacent to the South Pole, for measuring the abundance of water ice. The region inside the crater is in permanent darkness, allowing water molecules to condense and freeze there in the very cold conditions. No amateur radio content has been announced for these missions. The ESA said the idea behind our lunar CubeSat competition was challenging - up until now CubeSats have operated solely within Earth orbit. However, opportunities should open up to piggyback to the Moon in the coming decade, with circumlunar flights of the NASA-ESA Orion spacecraft and planned commercial flights. The ESA announcement can be accessed on-line at: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-028-ESA-CubesatMoon (www.esa.int) [ANS thanks the European Space Agency for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + On Jan. 31, the Super Blue Blood Moon Eclipse will be visible before ? sunrise in North America, Alaska and Hawaii. ? http://tinyurl.com/ANS-028-LunarEclipse (space.com) + Michelle Thompson, W5NYV, posted the January 19 video Phase 4 Ground ? Weekly Status report at: ? Part 1 - https://youtu.be/eD5P4tHIb9w ? Part 2 - https://youtu.be/gY0IQsppSI4 ? Her reports cover the IEEE Radio and Wireless Week, held in Anaheim, ? California from 14 - 17 January 2017. RWW is an annual technical ? conference from IEEE, and is sponsored primarily by Microwave Theory ? and Techniques Society. It consists of five different co-located ? topical conferences. One of those conferences was the Topical Work- ? shop on The Internet of Space or TWIoS, with two sessions. There ? was also a CubeSat workshop! + The Humanity Star was carried to orbit on-board the Rocket Lab ? launch from New Zealand. Their website advises, "Visible from ? space with the naked eye, the Humanity Star is a highly reflective ? satellite that blinks brightly across the night sky to create a ? shared experience for everyone on the planet. Created by Rocket Lab ? founder and CEO Peter Beck, the Humanity Star is a geodesic sphere ? made from carbon fibre with 65 highly reflective panels. It spins ? rapidly, reflecting the sun?s rays back to Earth, creating a ? flashing light that can be seen against a backdrop of stars." More ? information and a tracking map (showing when it is visible and when ? it is in eclipse) is posted on the project's website: ? http://www.thehumanitystar.com/ + Watch this video as KD2AVU worked KC8QDQ in EM89 on FO29. He doesn't ? have elevation rotor so best chance for him to work the bird is when ? it's on the low angle. Antenna: 2m beam (TX) homebrew DK7ZB 5 element ? 70cm beam (RX) stacked homebrew 10 element. Transceiver: Yaesu FT-847 ? TX power: 25W. Both antennas are in the attic! Watch on-line at: ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifpZMkACNNw + A frequently asked question during these good times of new ? satellite launches involves how to update the Keplerian Elements ? as orbits are identified or new satellites are launched. AMSAT-UK ? has a nice resource, "Adding new satellites to #SatPC32, Gpredict ? and Nova", see: https://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/23/adding-new-satellites-to-satpc32/ + On January 18, Thursday night at 9 pm Eastern time, Jerry Buxton, ? N0JY the vice president for engineering at AMSAT was interview on ? the HamTalkLive webcast to talk about the process of building ? amateur radio satellites, and the latest on the newest bird, ? Fox-1D. You can listen on demand 24/7/365.25 at: ? https://www.spreaker.com/show/ham-talk-live - select episode #98. + Enjoy the satellite presentation by Doug Tabor, N6UA, during his ? talk at the 2018 Winter Hamfest hosted by Northern Colorado Amateur ? Radio Club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJoh7g8BWok&feature=youtu.be + Are any of you interested in pursuing a PhD-degree, within space ? radio systems (software defined radio) or integrated operations ? involving small satellites and other autonomous vehicles? We are ? seeking two new PhD-candidates to join our small satellite team, ? at Norwegian University of Science and Technology in Trondheim, ? Norway. Full text and how to apply: ? http://tinyurl.com/ANS-028-UnivNorwaySmallSat ? More information about our team and on-going missions can be found ? here: https://www.ntnu.edu/ie/smallsat (via cubesat e-mail list) + Rocket Lab conducted its second Electron launch on January 21 ? placing three cubesats into orbit. The launch occurred from the ? remote Mahia Peninsula in New Zealand. Mission control is located ? in Auckland, New Zealand. On board was a Planetlab cubesat named ? Dove Pioneer which will conduct Earth resource imaging and two ? Lemur-2 cubesats for Spire which will be used for weather and ship ? tracking. Full report and video posted at: ? http://tinyurl.com/ANS-028-RocketLabsLaunch + NASA released this new video on January 11, 2018, which was created ? by astronomers and visualization specialists from its Universe of ? Learning program. These experts have combined visible and infrared ? images from the Hubble and Spitzer space telescopes to create a ? three-dimensional, fly-through view of the Orion Nebula, a fuzzy ? patch in your sky tonight, really a place where new stars are ? forming: http://earthsky.org/space/video-visualization-3d-orion-nebula-nasa --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73 and Happy New Year, This week's ANS Editor, JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM k9jkm at amsat dot org g From wandtosborne at gmail.com Sun Jan 28 03:00:05 2018 From: wandtosborne at gmail.com (Wendy and Terry Osborne) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:00:05 +1300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps Question from Rocket Lab launch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5396282F3FB44C69B4CF8357205AC7E7@OsbornesPC> Hi Dave and Nico, The Humanity Star web site is now tracking with 2018-10D. It was A when I checked a couple of days ago. As Nico says, A is Dove Pioneer So that makes F the rocket body. B and C are Lemur 2 And E is the rocket kick stage. Thanks for your help on this. 73, Terry ZL2BAC From: Dave Hartzell Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 6:16 AM To: Wendy and Terry Osborne Cc: Amsat BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Keps Question from Rocket Lab launch Looks like 2018-010D is the best fit (now) for Humanity Star.... On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Wendy and Terry Osborne wrote: Hi Folks, I have found a set of Keps from yesterday?s Rocket Lab launch. 2018-010A 1 43163U 18010A 18021.87397025 .00000319 -10052-5 00000+0 0 9996 2 43163 82.9164 138.6720 0176456 219.4667 139.3657 15.51933178 120 2018-010B 1 43164U 18010B 18021.89134907 .00000035 00000-0 00000+0 0 9998 2 43164 82.9271 138.6991 0029255 248.8502 110.7671 15.17838339 122 2018-010C 1 43165U 18010C 18021.95720165 .00000036 00000-0 00000+0 0 9994 2 43165 82.9208 138.6356 0031890 240.7480 118.8502 15.17897039 137 2018-010D 1 43166U 18010D 18021.93802473 .00000320 -10083-5 00000+0 0 9990 2 43166 82.9232 138.6174 0172791 220.0084 138.7693 15.52599809 135 2018-010E 1 43167U 18010E 18021.89220116 .00000035 00000-0 00000+0 0 9999 2 43167 82.9254 138.6995 0024458 245.8147 114.0537 15.16199901 124 2018-010F 1 43168U 18010F 18021.87420109 .00000318 -10038-5 00000+0 0 9994 2 43168 82.9247 138.6716 0176956 220.2187 138.6723 15.51608672 128 They appear to be in 2 groups. 2018-010A, 2018-010D and 2018-010F are close together. Similarly 2018-010B, 2018-010C and 2018-010E are close together. I suspect that A,D and F are the satellites and B,C and E are the Rocket body and debris. Is there any way of confirming which is which? Or does anyone have the downlink frequencies for Dove Pioneer or Lemur-2? 73, Terry ZL2BAC _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Sun Jan 28 04:35:41 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 04:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Message from PicSat In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1883670537.1111904.1517114141971@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Was this on the FM downlink?73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From: Roland Zurmely To: AMSAT Sent: Saturday, 27 January 2018 12:29 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Message from PicSat Today I got the following message from PicSat: R.F. ..All things are made of atoms; little particles that move around in perpetual motion, attracting each other when they are a little distance apart, but repelling upon being squeezed into one another. 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From va6bmj at gmail.com Sun Jan 28 05:31:16 2018 From: va6bmj at gmail.com (B J) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 05:31:16 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Falcon Heavy Launch Message-ID: http://spacenews.com/spacex-sets-first-falcon-heavy-launch-for-feb-6/ If the launch is successful, there'll be a Tesla in space next week. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL From py4zbz at yahoo.com Sun Jan 28 12:35:07 2018 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 12:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Message from PicSat References: <1777967449.550796.1517142907711.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1777967449.550796.1517142907711@mail.yahoo.com> Software for PicSat: <> 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From w9gb at icloud.com Sun Jan 28 13:52:38 2018 From: w9gb at icloud.com (Gregory Beat) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 07:52:38 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-726R lithium battery replacement Message-ID: <40B73BE2-14D3-40C3-9D55-F744604DD540@icloud.com> Yaesu FT-726R Technical Supplement (Service Manual) http://www.radiomanual.info/schemi/FT726R_serv.pdf TURN to Pages 55 and 87 of the Yaesu FT-726 Service Manual. The Lithium Coin Cell can be found on the FT-726 Control Board, BAT3001, Yaesu Part #: Q9000106 , CR-2025 This is a solder tab lithium coin cell battery. These batteries are used in millions of automotive and truck transponders (security parking, toll road collectors) and typically ~ $1 each. Digi-Key and Mouser both stock Panasonic coin cells (w/solder tab) replacements, such as the BR2032 and CR2032 models. The Suffix determines solder tab configuration. The Panasonic CR-2032/HSN appears to be modern replacement, horizontally mounted the vertical pins have 15.2mm spacing. Drawing here: https://www.mouser.com/catalog/additional/panasonic_C_PMHJ1Z%20CR-2032%EF%BC%8FHSN%20(CR2032-1HSE).PDF DIGI-KEY P659-ND ; CR-2032/HSN https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/panasonic-bsg/CR-2032-HSN/P659-ND/2404064 Mouser 658-CR-2032/HSN ; CR-2032/HSN https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panasonic-Battery/CR-2032-HSN/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuXcNZ31nzYhbQ85Gv2MWDyHIYrm%2F8m0YE%3D NOTE: Lithium Batteries are prohibited from cargo transportation in passenger airplanes. So USPS Priority Mail, which often uses that cargo space, will not be allowed. Both Mouser and Digi-Key flag this during the order/shipping selection process. greg, w9gb == Has anyone ever replaced the lithium battery (to keep memory in tact with power off) in the Yeasu FT-726R transceiver? If so was it difficult and do you remember the battery number? 73's Jim WA5QAP From w7lrd at comcast.net Sun Jan 28 17:18:56 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 09:18:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Falcon Heavy Launch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <328362358.80103.1517159936919@connect.xfinity.com> we should have a transponder in the back seat. 73 Bob W7LRD > On January 27, 2018 at 9:31 PM B J wrote: > > > http://spacenews.com/spacex-sets-first-falcon-heavy-launch-for-feb-6/ > > If the launch is successful, there'll be a Tesla in space next week. > > 73s > > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aa5pk at suddenlink.net Sun Jan 28 17:39:38 2018 From: aa5pk at suddenlink.net (Glenn Miller - AA5PK) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:39:38 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Falcon Heavy Launch In-Reply-To: <328362358.80103.1517159936919@connect.xfinity.com> References: <328362358.80103.1517159936919@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <15BF17B6B72A4A0381D3FB557FC0CBCD@AA5PKPC> I believe, if the launch is successful, the Tesla is headed to deep space. -----Original Message----- From: Bob- W7LRD Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 11:18 AM To: amsat-bb ; B J Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Falcon Heavy Launch we should have a transponder in the back seat. 73 Bob W7LRD From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sun Jan 28 18:02:20 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:02:20 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Falcon Heavy Launch In-Reply-To: <328362358.80103.1517159936919@connect.xfinity.com> References: <328362358.80103.1517159936919@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <98742EA8-7B20-463E-B138-6FB67EDF9220@gmail.com> Um, no. No such thing as a back seat in a Tesla Roadster. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_(2008) It does have 53kwh worth of battery, which should keep a cubesat-ish transponder (and the car systems) running for a few months. Toss it in the passenger seat (Sir Isaac will be driving), and plug it into the accessory outlet. Just don't forget to turn the key on, as the car (and music player) shuts down after 10 min after door close. But is it really a good idea to leave one's keys in the car when not attended? In outer space? Greg KO6TH On January 28, 2018 9:18:56 AM PST, Bob- W7LRD wrote: >we should have a transponder in the back seat. > >73 Bob W7LRD > >> On January 27, 2018 at 9:31 PM B J wrote: >> >> >> >http://spacenews.com/spacex-sets-first-falcon-heavy-launch-for-feb-6/ >> >> If the launch is successful, there'll be a Tesla in space next >week. >> >> 73s >> >> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA >makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >> Subscription settings: >http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From bruninga at usna.edu Sun Jan 28 18:09:47 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:09:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Falcon Heavy Launch (APRS digipeater for MARS) Message-ID: DRATS! It should have had an APRS mobile and we could use the Digipeater! > On Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD > we should have a transponder in the back seat. From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sun Jan 28 18:16:59 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:16:59 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming Falcon Heavy Launch (APRS digipeater for MARS) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, forget SuitSat. We need RoadSat! On January 28, 2018 10:09:47 AM PST, Robert Bruninga wrote: >DRATS! It should have had an APRS mobile and we could use the >Digipeater! > >> On Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD >> we should have a transponder in the back seat. >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From povern at yahoo.com Sun Jan 28 22:55:45 2018 From: povern at yahoo.com (Paul Overn) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:55:45 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] EN-35 Activation Message-ID: <4A1F56EB-E49A-402D-9977-85282AC423BC@yahoo.com> I will be activating EN-35, on so-85 on Tuesday at 23:40. Sent from my iPad From povern at yahoo.com Sun Jan 28 22:58:29 2018 From: povern at yahoo.com (Paul Overn) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:58:29 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] EN-35 Activation In-Reply-To: <4A1F56EB-E49A-402D-9977-85282AC423BC@yahoo.com> References: <4A1F56EB-E49A-402D-9977-85282AC423BC@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46790F38-2F2A-4390-A2D6-BC31B7D30826@yahoo.com> The time is Zulu or Utc. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Paul Overn via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > I will be activating EN-35, on so-85 on Tuesday at 23:40. > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g.shirville at btinternet.com Mon Jan 29 09:56:22 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1/AO73 Operations References: <736262214.3496450.1517219782102.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <736262214.3496450.1517219782102@mail.yahoo.com> Hi All,Just to confirm that AO73 is now in continuous education mode with the high power telemetry. Amateur mode may be expected to resume on Thursday morning(UTC)73GrahamG3VZV From py4zbz at yahoo.com Mon Jan 29 18:32:38 2018 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 18:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] First to decode PicSat secret message References: <86286944.1284182.1517250758387.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <86286944.1284182.1517250758387@mail.yahoo.com> Please see here: <> 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From w7lrd at comcast.net Mon Jan 29 20:19:36 2018 From: w7lrd at comcast.net (Bob- W7LRD) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:19:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [amsat-bb] S BAND USE Message-ID: <2014274998.96764.1517257176382@connect.xfinity.com> Hello-Is there any chance of using S Band (2.4 Ghz) being used on any future satellites? I know there are several of us who have a box of down converters and associated equipment, waiting for "something". I know the five & dime is being planed. 73 Bob W7LRD From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Jan 29 20:27:22 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 15:27:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Central Magnet Math & Science ES/Batesville School District, Batesville, AR Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Central Magnet Math & Science ES/Batesville School District, Batesville, AR on 31 Jan. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 16:42 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between OR4ISS and IK1SLD. The contact should be audible over Italy and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Central Magnet Elementary is located in Batesville, Ark. The school's magnet theme is math and science. We are a grade K through 6 school with about 359 students. In addition to classroom learning, students explore math and science in the school's computer lab and STEM lab. Students in our school have recently won competitions in robotics. We also host a science fair. Every fall, our 5th grade class attends a field trip to Space Camp at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Ala. This field trip is very inspiring to our students. In leading up to the school's ISS contact, classroom lesson plans are including topics about the ISS and space. The students have also been given assignments to watch for the ISS when it passes overhead in the evening. The team of students who will ask the questions are: All local TV, radio, and print media will be invited to the ARISS event. Central Magnet is looking forward to speaking to an astronaut aboard the ISS. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. How do astronauts travel to and from the space station? 2. Is your sense of time distorted because you are orbiting the earth every 90 minutes? 3. What is it like to perform an EVA? 4. How do you keep in contact with your family? 5. How do the stars look from the space station? 6. What is it like to transition to micro gravity when you arrive at the space station? 7. What plants are grown on the space station? 8. What inspired you to become an astronaut? 9. What are the experiments you work on aboard the space station? 10. How does the space station get oxygen? 11. Do you crave certain foods while you are in space? 12. How do you spend your free time on the space station? 13. Do you play any games, sports or exercise while in space? 14. What is your perspective of seeing the Earth's weather from space? 15. Are you hopeful astronauts will return to the moon? 16. How long will you be staying on the ISS? 17. What happens to the trash you produce on the ISS? 18. Is it comfortable sleeping in a weightless environment? 19. How do astronauts take care of medical problems while in space? 20. What advice can you give for students wishing to become an astronaut? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): TBD About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From dan at post.com Mon Jan 29 20:27:47 2018 From: dan at post.com (Daniel Cussen) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:27:47 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] S BAND USE In-Reply-To: <2014274998.96764.1517257176382@connect.xfinity.com> References: <2014274998.96764.1517257176382@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: The ISS is constantly downlinking on 2395Mhz an Amateur TV signal. Most of the time the camera is not connected, buy you can detect and test with the constant DVB-S blank transmission. See: https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/ The recommended receiver is a "minitouner" which can be used with and without a downconverter/pre amp. The signal is quite strong and there is live video the odd time, mainly during school contacts over Europe. We don't expect it to be used much until the new power supply and radios are installed in the colombus module, but you can set up and test on every ISS pass. Elevation tracking is really a must and a 2ft or 3ft dish with a circular feed helps. If using a down converter, it would be best to use one designed for digital signals, as sometimes other types introduce errors into the signal. On 29/01/2018, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > Hello-Is there any chance of using S Band (2.4 Ghz) being used on any future > satellites? I know there are several of us who have a box of down > converters and associated equipment, waiting for "something". I know the > five & dime is being planed. > > 73 Bob W7LRD > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aj9n at aol.com Mon Jan 29 21:45:58 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 16:45:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-29 21:30 UTC Message-ID: <16143e246f1-1721-4adc@webjas-vac130.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-29 21:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Central Magnet Math & Science ES/Batesville School District, Batesville, AR, telebridge, via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA (***) Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-31 16:42:05 UTC 89 deg ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-01-29 21:30 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1204. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1153. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas,?Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-25 08:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR ? Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From py41 at att.net Mon Jan 29 23:26:02 2018 From: py41 at att.net (Perry Yantis) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 2.4 ghz signal References: <933453469.2961814.1517268362548.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <933453469.2961814.1517268362548@mail.yahoo.com> I have listen to DTUSAT-2 with a downlink of?2401.868.It sends a cw signal every 15 seconds with an ID followed by some numbers telling ground stations of its health.The keps for DTUSAT-2 is in the Amsat keps file.Also go to the DTUSAT webpage for more details.The satellites mission is over but the beacon still works. I found information about this satellite because I wanted to see if my 1.2 downconvter and cabling was still working.I have heard it and listen to it regularly to get some use out of my 1.2 ghz receiver and knowing that if a new satellite goes up with this kind of downlink, I will be ready.?Perry WB8OTH py41 at att.net sent from my Apple Macbook Pro From n4hf.philip at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 01:39:28 2018 From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:39:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? Message-ID: Hi all I bought a new Android tablet on Saturday - Version 7.0, Nougat. AMSATDroid seems to work fine on it, other than displaying the date as "000001 29, 2018" On the tablet, I did a Google Play Store search for Heavens-Above (which runs great on my smartphone, which is running some flavor of Android 4.x) and Heavens-Above didn't show up in the store...which I thought "okay, that's strange". So tonight I went to the Heavens-Above website, thinking I would download the Android app from there. Google Play Store pops up with Heavens-Above app but I'm getting the message "Your device is not compatible with this version". So, what I'm looking for - assuming that the Heavens-Above app won't be updated - is a similar app which will run under 7.0. How about Satellite Tracker from Tythatguy. or Satellite Tracker by Vito Technology (reading the reviews, the latter doesn't seem to be as useful as Heavens-Above or Tythatguy's version). Any others you might recommend? Comments? Suggestions? Any way to make 7.0 backwardly compatible? Philip N4HF From wa2ndv at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 02:42:14 2018 From: wa2ndv at gmail.com (Frank G) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:42:14 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-88 Message-ID: <5a6fdb86.c826c80a.50370.9106@mx.google.com> Wondering why I never really hear anyone on East Coast USA passes of EO-88. The transponder is on but all I hear is myself ? 73 Frank WA2NDV From pconver at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 02:57:46 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:57:46 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Philip, Try http://amsat.org.ar/pass it's free, works on tablets/smartphones, etc. After first start, runs even without internet. Good Luck and successful hunt of birds. 73, lu7abf, Pedro On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:39 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: > Hi all > > I bought a new Android tablet on Saturday - Version 7.0, Nougat. > > AMSATDroid seems to work fine on it, other than displaying the date as > "000001 29, 2018" > > On the tablet, I did a Google Play Store search for Heavens-Above (which > runs great on my smartphone, which is running some flavor of Android 4.x) > and Heavens-Above didn't show up in the store...which I thought "okay, > that's strange". > > So tonight I went to the Heavens-Above website, thinking I would download > the Android app from there. Google Play Store pops up with Heavens-Above > app but I'm getting the message "Your device is not compatible with this > version". > > So, what I'm looking for - assuming that the Heavens-Above app won't be > updated - is a similar app which will run under 7.0. How about Satellite > Tracker from Tythatguy. or Satellite Tracker by Vito Technology (reading > the reviews, the latter doesn't seem to be as useful as Heavens-Above or > Tythatguy's version). Any others you might recommend? > > Comments? Suggestions? Any way to make 7.0 backwardly compatible? > > Philip N4HF > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 03:27:00 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:27:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ISS Detector is my go to app for Android now. You have to purchase an extra pack or the Pro version to get amateur radio sats. Only thing I miss from Heavens-Above is it doesn't list time/azimuth of max elevation. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: > Hi all > > I bought a new Android tablet on Saturday - Version 7.0, Nougat. > > AMSATDroid seems to work fine on it, other than displaying the date as > "000001 29, 2018" > > On the tablet, I did a Google Play Store search for Heavens-Above (which > runs great on my smartphone, which is running some flavor of Android 4.x) > and Heavens-Above didn't show up in the store...which I thought "okay, > that's strange". > > So tonight I went to the Heavens-Above website, thinking I would download > the Android app from there. Google Play Store pops up with Heavens-Above > app but I'm getting the message "Your device is not compatible with this > version". > > So, what I'm looking for - assuming that the Heavens-Above app won't be > updated - is a similar app which will run under 7.0. How about Satellite > Tracker from Tythatguy. or Satellite Tracker by Vito Technology (reading > the reviews, the latter doesn't seem to be as useful as Heavens-Above or > Tythatguy's version). Any others you might recommend? > > Comments? Suggestions? Any way to make 7.0 backwardly compatible? > > Philip N4HF > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From scott23192 at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 03:27:32 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:27:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-88 In-Reply-To: <5a6fdb86.c826c80a.50370.9106@mx.google.com> References: <5a6fdb86.c826c80a.50370.9106@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the heads-up, Frank! I'm ashamed to admit, considering that it's clearly on the Linear Satellite Frequency Summary page ( https://www.amsat.org/linear-satellite-frequency-summary/), but I wasn't even aware of it. However, it's certainly checked in Orbitron now, so I'll look forward to giving it a try. Thanks! -Scott, K4KDR ========================= On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Frank G wrote: > > Wondering why I never really hear anyone on East Coast USA passes of EO-88. > > The transponder is on but all I hear is myself ? > > 73 > Frank > WA2NDV From k9qho67622 at comcast.net Tue Jan 30 04:05:04 2018 From: k9qho67622 at comcast.net (MICHAEL WILLIAMS) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:05:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [amsat-bb] S BAND USE Message-ID: <45810729.28334.1517285105088@connect.xfinity.com> I routinely copy DTUSat-2 on 2401.835. It only transmits a beacon every 30 seconds in ellipse only as the batteries never functioned. Since the Doppler is 100 kHz during the pass, it's a challenge to track it. From g.shirville at btinternet.com Tue Jan 30 10:16:43 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:16:43 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-88 In-Reply-To: References: <5a6fdb86.c826c80a.50370.9106@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Please remember that the transponder on EO88 is only active when the spacecraft is in eclipse, but don't forget to listen for UKube-1 where the transponder is on continuously (except for occasional breaks of a few seconds). Have fun! 73 Graham G3VZV On 30/01/2018 03:27, Scott wrote: > Thanks for the heads-up, Frank! > > I'm ashamed to admit, considering that it's clearly on the Linear Satellite > Frequency Summary page ( > https://www.amsat.org/linear-satellite-frequency-summary/), but I wasn't > even aware of it. > > However, it's certainly checked in Orbitron now, so I'll look forward to > giving it a try. > > Thanks! > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > ========================= > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Frank G wrote: > >> Wondering why I never really hear anyone on East Coast USA passes of EO-88. >> >> The transponder is on but all I hear is myself ? >> >> 73 >> Frank >> WA2NDV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From DougPhelps at protonmail.com Tue Jan 30 12:49:56 2018 From: DougPhelps at protonmail.com (Doug Phelps) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:49:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I second the vote for ISS Detector. If you buy the Amatuer Radio option for a few bucks, it is an excellent satellite AP. It even has a widget that constantly shows upcoming passes on the screen. Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On Jan 29, 2018, 9:27 PM, John Brier wrote: > ISS Detector is my go to app for Android now. You have to purchase an > extra pack or the Pro version to get amateur radio sats. Only thing I > miss from Heavens-Above is it doesn't list time/azimuth of max > elevation. > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I bought a new Android tablet on Saturday - Version 7.0, Nougat. >> >> AMSATDroid seems to work fine on it, other than displaying the date as >> "000001 29, 2018" >> >> On the tablet, I did a Google Play Store search for Heavens-Above (which >> runs great on my smartphone, which is running some flavor of Android 4.x) >> and Heavens-Above didn't show up in the store...which I thought "okay, >> that's strange". >> >> So tonight I went to the Heavens-Above website, thinking I would download >> the Android app from there. Google Play Store pops up with Heavens-Above >> app but I'm getting the message "Your device is not compatible with this >> version". >> >> So, what I'm looking for - assuming that the Heavens-Above app won't be >> updated - is a similar app which will run under 7.0. How about Satellite >> Tracker from Tythatguy. or Satellite Tracker by Vito Technology (reading >> the reviews, the latter doesn't seem to be as useful as Heavens-Above or >> Tythatguy's version). Any others you might recommend? >> >> Comments? Suggestions? Any way to make 7.0 backwardly compatible? >> >> Philip N4HF >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb @gmail.com> From bruninga at usna.edu Tue Jan 30 14:48:50 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:48:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2A satellite? Message-ID: I should know this, but don?t. My students tried to tune in XW2A but it was not on Heavens-above but it was shown as having been heard by someone else today on the AMSAT Status page. But its downlink is outside of the AMSAT subband, so do they not turn it on except over China, or is the downlink on 145.675 operational? We did not hear anything. Bob, WB4APR From kb2ysi at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 14:53:19 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:53:19 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Holy cow, I overlooked ISS Detector thinking it was only for ISS. For $0.99 you remove the ads, add the Amateur satellites and can save the list of the ones you want! If you want it for "free" get the Google opinion rewards app and answer a few surveys when they pop up and receive a bit of store credit. Thank you John and Doug for the amazing recommendation. 73, Don KB2YSI On Jan 30, 2018 09:43, "Doug Phelps via AMSAT-BB" wrote: > I second the vote for ISS Detector. If you buy the Amatuer Radio option > for a few bucks, it is an excellent satellite AP. It even has a widget that > constantly shows upcoming passes on the screen. > > Sent from ProtonMail mobile > > -------- Original Message -------- > On Jan 29, 2018, 9:27 PM, John Brier wrote: > > > ISS Detector is my go to app for Android now. You have to purchase an > > extra pack or the Pro version to get amateur radio sats. Only thing I > > miss from Heavens-Above is it doesn't list time/azimuth of max > > elevation. > > > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: > >> Hi all > >> > >> I bought a new Android tablet on Saturday - Version 7.0, Nougat. > >> > >> AMSATDroid seems to work fine on it, other than displaying the date as > >> "000001 29, 2018" > >> > >> On the tablet, I did a Google Play Store search for Heavens-Above (which > >> runs great on my smartphone, which is running some flavor of Android > 4.x) > >> and Heavens-Above didn't show up in the store...which I thought "okay, > >> that's strange". > >> > >> So tonight I went to the Heavens-Above website, thinking I would > download > >> the Android app from there. Google Play Store pops up with Heavens-Above > >> app but I'm getting the message "Your device is not compatible with this > >> version". > >> > >> So, what I'm looking for - assuming that the Heavens-Above app won't be > >> updated - is a similar app which will run under 7.0. How about Satellite > >> Tracker from Tythatguy. or Satellite Tracker by Vito Technology (reading > >> the reviews, the latter doesn't seem to be as useful as Heavens-Above or > >> Tythatguy's version). Any others you might recommend? > >> > >> Comments? Suggestions? Any way to make 7.0 backwardly compatible? > >> > >> Philip N4HF > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb @ > gmail.com> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8hm at arrl.net Tue Jan 30 14:53:25 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:53:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2A satellite? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's generally been on full-time. The CW beacon on 145.660 MHz or the 9k6 GMSK telemetry on 145.640 MHz should always be heard if there's no activity on the transponder. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > I should know this, but don?t. > My students tried to tune in XW2A but it was not on Heavens-above but it > was > shown as having been heard by someone else today on the AMSAT Status page. > > But its downlink is outside of the AMSAT subband, so do they not turn it on > except over China, or is the downlink on 145.675 operational? We did not > hear anything. > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Tue Jan 30 14:59:23 2018 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2A satellite? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <770199617.1902630.1517324363102@mail.yahoo.com> I've been on a few times by myself.? I think sat ops forget about it at times. Rob KA2CZU On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 9:57:47 AM EST, Paul Stoetzer wrote: It's generally been on full-time. The CW beacon on 145.660 MHz or the 9k6 GMSK telemetry on 145.640 MHz should always be heard if there's no activity on the transponder. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > I should know this, but don?t. > My students tried to tune in XW2A but it was not on Heavens-above but it > was > shown as having been heard by someone else today on the AMSAT Status page. > > But its downlink is outside of the AMSAT subband, so do they not turn it on > except over China, or is the downlink on 145.675 operational?? We did not > hear anything. > > Bob, WB4APR > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From respaut.michel at mairie-perpignan.com Tue Jan 30 16:03:52 2018 From: respaut.michel at mairie-perpignan.com (RESPAUT Michel) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:03:52 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] S BAND USE Message-ID: <0e15a0352a714222a666d83459c2096d@MBX01.mp.priv> Thanks for this information. CW beacon reception of DTUSat-2 around 11:50 utc. Of course huge doppler around 2401.825 MHz. My rx conditions: 52el DEMI horiz loop-yagi + 13cm DEMI old version transverter and 15m H100 coax (preamp at the shack...) 73 de Michel F6HTJ From brodiejb at shaw.ca Tue Jan 30 16:54:10 2018 From: brodiejb at shaw.ca (John Brodie) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:54:10 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Delta ST3 Trackbox Message-ID: <002d01d399ea$f48d1500$dda73f00$@ca> I'm new to this list and new to satellites also, so I would appreciate some help. Is there anyone out there who uses a Fox Delta ST3 trackbox and would be able to give me advice on a problem I am having with it? John VA7XB From redski at bellsouth.net Tue Jan 30 17:49:37 2018 From: redski at bellsouth.net (W M WILLOUGHBY) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:49:37 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] EO-88 Message-ID: I?ll also try to do a better job listening for it. It is one of only a couple of birds that I haven?t made a QSO. Seems like the good passes only come over pretty late at night. FS-3 is the other bird, but I am now prepared to work it when the orbits cycle back around here in a week or so. Red KC4LE From n4hf.philip at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 18:38:29 2018 From: n4hf.philip at gmail.com (Philip Jenkins) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:38:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow...i am blown away by ISS Detector! Like Don, I passed it by because I assumed it only dealt with ISS, and not any ham satellites...I had NO idea it had so many features! I purchased the Pro version for my tablet, and downloaded the original with the amateur satellite add-on for my smartphone Thanks again for the ISS Detector recommendation. Virgilio HP2VX also recommended this app in a private email to me, and Pedro LU7ABF reminded me of the AMSAT-Argentina website tracker, so thanks to them as well! Philip N4HF On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > Holy cow, I overlooked ISS Detector thinking it was only for ISS. For > $0.99 you remove the ads, add the Amateur satellites and can save the > list of the ones you want! > > If you want it for "free" get the Google opinion rewards app and answer a > few surveys when they pop up and receive a bit of store credit. > > Thank you John and Doug for the amazing recommendation. > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Jan 30, 2018 09:43, "Doug Phelps via AMSAT-BB" > wrote: > >> I second the vote for ISS Detector. If you buy the Amatuer Radio option >> for a few bucks, it is an excellent satellite AP. It even has a widget that >> constantly shows upcoming passes on the screen. >> >> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On Jan 29, 2018, 9:27 PM, John Brier wrote: >> >> > ISS Detector is my go to app for Android now. You have to purchase an >> > extra pack or the Pro version to get amateur radio sats. Only thing I >> > miss from Heavens-Above is it doesn't list time/azimuth of max >> > elevation. >> > >> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> >> >> I bought a new Android tablet on Saturday - Version 7.0, Nougat. >> >> >> >> AMSATDroid seems to work fine on it, other than displaying the date as >> >> "000001 29, 2018" >> >> >> >> On the tablet, I did a Google Play Store search for Heavens-Above >> (which >> >> runs great on my smartphone, which is running some flavor of Android >> 4.x) >> >> and Heavens-Above didn't show up in the store...which I thought "okay, >> >> that's strange". >> >> >> >> So tonight I went to the Heavens-Above website, thinking I would >> download >> >> the Android app from there. Google Play Store pops up with >> Heavens-Above >> >> app but I'm getting the message "Your device is not compatible with >> this >> >> version". >> >> >> >> So, what I'm looking for - assuming that the Heavens-Above app won't be >> >> updated - is a similar app which will run under 7.0. How about >> Satellite >> >> Tracker from Tythatguy. or Satellite Tracker by Vito Technology >> (reading >> >> the reviews, the latter doesn't seem to be as useful as Heavens-Above >> or >> >> Tythatguy's version). Any others you might recommend? >> >> >> >> Comments? Suggestions? Any way to make 7.0 backwardly compatible? >> >> >> >> Philip N4HF >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb @ >> gmail.com> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 18:56:20 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:56:20 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When I first saw it I thought the same thing. The feature that is the killer feature for me is also the filtering. I can see at a glance what sats are coming up. I love it when I have a spare hour or whatever. I can just open it up and see if there is something and go. Don't have to predict and plan passes out days in advance. On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: > Wow...i am blown away by ISS Detector! Like Don, I passed it by because I > assumed it only dealt with ISS, and not any ham satellites...I had NO idea > it had so many features! > > I purchased the Pro version for my tablet, and downloaded the original with > the amateur satellite add-on for my smartphone > > Thanks again for the ISS Detector recommendation. Virgilio HP2VX also > recommended this app in a private email to me, and Pedro LU7ABF reminded me > of the AMSAT-Argentina website tracker, so thanks to them as well! > > Philip N4HF > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: >> >> Holy cow, I overlooked ISS Detector thinking it was only for ISS. For >> $0.99 you remove the ads, add the Amateur satellites and can save the list >> of the ones you want! >> >> If you want it for "free" get the Google opinion rewards app and answer a >> few surveys when they pop up and receive a bit of store credit. >> >> Thank you John and Doug for the amazing recommendation. >> >> 73, Don KB2YSI >> >> On Jan 30, 2018 09:43, "Doug Phelps via AMSAT-BB" >> wrote: >>> >>> I second the vote for ISS Detector. If you buy the Amatuer Radio option >>> for a few bucks, it is an excellent satellite AP. It even has a widget that >>> constantly shows upcoming passes on the screen. >>> >>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> On Jan 29, 2018, 9:27 PM, John Brier wrote: >>> >>> > ISS Detector is my go to app for Android now. You have to purchase an >>> > extra pack or the Pro version to get amateur radio sats. Only thing I >>> > miss from Heavens-Above is it doesn't list time/azimuth of max >>> > elevation. >>> > >>> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: >>> >> Hi all >>> >> >>> >> I bought a new Android tablet on Saturday - Version 7.0, Nougat. >>> >> >>> >> AMSATDroid seems to work fine on it, other than displaying the date as >>> >> "000001 29, 2018" >>> >> >>> >> On the tablet, I did a Google Play Store search for Heavens-Above >>> >> (which >>> >> runs great on my smartphone, which is running some flavor of Android >>> >> 4.x) >>> >> and Heavens-Above didn't show up in the store...which I thought "okay, >>> >> that's strange". >>> >> >>> >> So tonight I went to the Heavens-Above website, thinking I would >>> >> download >>> >> the Android app from there. Google Play Store pops up with >>> >> Heavens-Above >>> >> app but I'm getting the message "Your device is not compatible with >>> >> this >>> >> version". >>> >> >>> >> So, what I'm looking for - assuming that the Heavens-Above app won't >>> >> be >>> >> updated - is a similar app which will run under 7.0. How about >>> >> Satellite >>> >> Tracker from Tythatguy. or Satellite Tracker by Vito Technology >>> >> (reading >>> >> the reviews, the latter doesn't seem to be as useful as Heavens-Above >>> >> or >>> >> Tythatguy's version). Any others you might recommend? >>> >> >>> >> Comments? Suggestions? Any way to make 7.0 backwardly compatible? >>> >> >>> >> Philip N4HF >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> >> Opinions expressed >>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> >> of AMSAT-NA. >>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> >> program! >>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> > Opinions expressed >>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> > of AMSAT-NA. >>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> > program! >>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> > @gmail.com> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > From endaf99 at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 19:02:14 2018 From: endaf99 at gmail.com (Endaf Buckley) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:02:14 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2A satellite? In-Reply-To: <770199617.1902630.1517324363102@mail.yahoo.com> References: <770199617.1902630.1517324363102@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've had many QSO's on 2A with myself ?. On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > I've been on a few times by myself. I think sat ops forget about it at > times. > Rob KA2CZU > > On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 9:57:47 AM EST, Paul Stoetzer < > n8hm at arrl.net> wrote: > > It's generally been on full-time. The CW beacon on 145.660 MHz or the 9k6 > GMSK telemetry on 145.640 MHz should always be heard if there's no activity > on the transponder. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Robert Bruninga > wrote: > > > I should know this, but don?t. > > My students tried to tune in XW2A but it was not on Heavens-above but it > > was > > shown as having been heard by someone else today on the AMSAT Status > page. > > > > But its downlink is outside of the AMSAT subband, so do they not turn it > on > > except over China, or is the downlink on 145.675 operational? We did not > > hear anything. > > > > Bob, WB4APR > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From cchunter3 at mindspring.com Tue Jan 30 19:06:04 2018 From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (christy hunter) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:06:04 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2A satellite? Message-ID: <96693ae6-30cd-d930-950f-524c8bd49a49@mindspring.com> there is a regular group that uses these XW sats, including 2A, in the early am on the western passes. The evening passes I have noticed minimal use. 73 Christy, KB6LTY ---------------- I've been on a few times by myself.? I think sat ops forget about it at times. Rob KA2CZU On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 9:57:47 AM EST, Paul Stoetzer > wrote: It's generally been on full-time. The CW beacon on 145.660 MHz or the 9k6 GMSK telemetry on 145.640 MHz should always be heard if there's no activity on the transponder. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Robert Bruninga > wrote: >/I should know this, but don?t. />/My students tried to tune in XW2A but it was not on Heavens-above but it />/was />/shown as having been heard by someone else today on the AMSAT Status page. />//>/But its downlink is outside of the AMSAT subband, so do they not turn it on />/except over China, or is the downlink on 145.675 operational?? We did not />/hear anything. />//>/Bob, WB4APR />/_______________________________________________ />/Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available />/to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions />/expressed />/are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of />/AMSAT-NA. />/Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! />/Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb /> --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Tue Jan 30 19:14:11 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:14:11 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSATDroidFree now Open Source In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6DFB4913-BD48-4215-ADE6-FB92DBF82243@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi, My congratulations to the writers of ISS Detector. It has all the features that I would like to have added to AMSATDroidFree but I now have other priorities (tempus fugit) To that end, I am making the source code to AMSATDroidFree available on a public repository on GitHub for those of you who like to tinker. https://github.com/g4dpz/AmsatDroidFree I should like to thank all the people who given me suggestions and have downloaded it over the years and are still using the application. 73 Dave, G4DPZ From hobergenix at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 20:22:00 2018 From: hobergenix at gmail.com (Mike Hoblinski) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 12:22:00 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Pine64 board Message-ID: While looking at boards for sdr and remote receiver I ran across a board and thought it might be of some interest. Its a competitor for the raspberry pi with several variations. In their store one of the accessories is a nice weather proof houseng. https://www.pine64.org/ Mike Hoblinski N6IMF From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 20:29:30 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:29:30 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Pine64 board In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <677b01e3-0c7b-49a5-b933-45c67244ac2b@Spark> Mike, thanks! These had not yet hit my radar yet. 73 Brad WF7T On Jan 30, 2018, 2:22 PM -0600, Mike Hoblinski , wrote: > While looking at boards for sdr and remote receiver I ran across a board > and thought > it might be of some interest. Its a competitor for the raspberry pi with > several variations. > In their store one of the accessories is a nice weather proof houseng. > > https://www.pine64.org/ > > Mike Hoblinski > N6IMF > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 20:40:53 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:40:53 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter In-Reply-To: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> References: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> Message-ID: <9b60e371-7927-4b07-94f7-b992222e0de3@Spark> Good day to all. Related to my previous post, please check this link for an interesting NBFM transceiver board for L-band uplinks: http://www.pe1jpd.nl/index.php/23cm_nbfm/ Now I just need to find time! 73 Brad WF7T EM66 On Jan 26, 2018, 1:43 PM -0600, Brad Brooks , wrote: > For those who receive the DKARS magazine, there is a very interesting article. The transceiver described is for ATV, but it looks like like it will tune to the AO-92 uplink frequency. Seems to put out 400mw FM out. I am not able to take time now to review deeper (stealing away from work) but I look forward to parsing through the schematic/links this weekend. I am forwarding this notice for anyone who will be able to get there sooner. I think there is some potential here, and I would like to know other? opinions. > > Www.dkars.nl > > 73 Brad WF7T > Nashville TN EM66 From DFox at rwglaw.com Tue Jan 30 23:05:38 2018 From: DFox at rwglaw.com (D. Craig Fox) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 23:05:38 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter In-Reply-To: <9b60e371-7927-4b07-94f7-b992222e0de3@Spark> References: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> <9b60e371-7927-4b07-94f7-b992222e0de3@Spark> Message-ID: I too am struggling with how to get RF out on 1.2ghz. Right now Im leaning toward the SG-Labs 1296 transverter (1296/144) which I think someone mentioned sometime back. Many positive reviews on moon-net. If you have any interest in local repeaters or EME on 1296, along with activating AO92 via L band, for $198 PNP, this is hard to beat. http://www.sg-lab.com/TR1300/tr1300.html 73s, Craig N6RSX -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Brad Brooks Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:41 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter Good day to all. Related to my previous post, please check this link for an interesting NBFM transceiver board for L-band uplinks: http://www.pe1jpd.nl/index.php/23cm_nbfm/ Now I just need to find time! 73 Brad WF7T EM66 On Jan 26, 2018, 1:43 PM -0600, Brad Brooks , wrote: > For those who receive the DKARS magazine, there is a very interesting article. The transceiver described is for ATV, but it looks like like it will tune to the AO-92 uplink frequency. Seems to put out 400mw FM out. I am not able to take time now to review deeper (stealing away from work) but I look forward to parsing through the schematic/links this weekend. I am forwarding this notice for anyone who will be able to get there sooner. I think there is some potential here, and I would like to know other? opinions. > > Www.dkars.nl > > 73 Brad WF7T > Nashville TN EM66 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb (If this message is spam, please report it to IT Dept. Thank you.) From ke4al at yahoo.com Tue Jan 30 23:44:59 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 23:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter In-Reply-To: References: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> <9b60e371-7927-4b07-94f7-b992222e0de3@Spark> Message-ID: <1562101932.1928.1517355899139@mail.yahoo.com> Paul, N8HM, successfully worked AO-92 L-band with an Alinco DJ-G7T handheld transceiver, with 1 watt, fed into a 16 element 23cm yagi (Comet CYA-1216e).? The 1-watt HT had no problem getting into the tested 15-degree AO-92 pass. The only issue with the Alinco is with RX filtering.? While it is a full-duplex capable HT, N8HM reported he had to use a separate receiver to be able to hear his downlink. The SG Lab 1296-144 transverter puts out 2 watts @ 12vdc and 2.5 watts at 13.8vdc. This would give you twice as much output power as the HT.? The SG Lab transverter comes set up to work at 1296 MHz.? You must open it up and switch some jumpers to be able to operate at the required 1267 MHz. Wyatt, AC0RA, switched the jumpers and successfully tested his SG Lab transverter @ 1267 on a non-satellite, terrestrial contact. Either of the above two options (HT or transverter) will get you started on AO-92, but don't just focus on power.? Frequency steps are just as important.? 5 KHz (or smaller) step is best, 10 is workable with some fading between steps, 25 kHz (although not tested yet) will likely be problematic. FYI - I have the Alinco DJ-G7T, SG Labs 1296-144 transverter, Kenwood TM-942, and Icom IC-910H, along with a Comet CYA-1216e yagi and Directive Systems 2314 loop yagi. Will start testing/comparing once AO-92 is switched over to L-band (L/v) operations. 73, Robert KE4AL On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 5:14:55 PM CST, D. Craig Fox wrote: I too am struggling with how to get RF out on 1.2ghz. Right now Im leaning toward the SG-Labs 1296 transverter (1296/144) which I think someone mentioned sometime back. Many positive reviews on moon-net. If you have any interest in local repeaters or EME on 1296, along with activating AO92 via L band, for $198 PNP, this is hard to beat. http://www.sg-lab.com/TR1300/tr1300.html 73s, Craig N6RSX -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Brad Brooks Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:41 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter Good day to all. Related to my previous post, please check this link for an interesting NBFM transceiver board for L-band uplinks: http://www.pe1jpd.nl/index.php/23cm_nbfm/ Now I just need to find time! 73 Brad WF7T EM66 On Jan 26, 2018, 1:43 PM -0600, Brad Brooks , wrote: > For those who receive the DKARS magazine, there is a very interesting article. The transceiver described is for ATV, but it looks like like it will tune to the AO-92 uplink frequency. Seems to put out 400mw FM out. I am not able to take time now to review deeper (stealing away from work) but I look forward to parsing through the schematic/links this weekend. I am forwarding this notice for anyone who will be able to get there sooner. I think there is some potential here, and I would like to know other? opinions. > > Www.dkars.nl > > 73 Brad WF7T > Nashville TN EM66 _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb (If this message is spam, please report it to IT Dept.? Thank you.) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From maccody at att.net Wed Jan 31 01:46:38 2018 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:46:38 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter In-Reply-To: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> References: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> Message-ID: <1bec3a3b-993b-623e-3c8d-d92378482cb9@att.net> This is my third attempt to post this message.? It seems that the AMSAT-BB blocks messages with JPEG attachments.? Below is a Google translation of the article on the 23cm transceiver inDKARS magazine. 73, Mac Cody / AE5PH VHF-UHF-SHF News This month provided by Hans van Alphen, PA?EHG Nice new transistor for 23 cm PA Since the beginning of this year NXP has a nice power LDMOS transistor in the range for the 23 cm band. The transistor type: MRFE8VP13350 assumes pre-matched adaptation and is designed for industrial, scientific and medical applications. The transistor is capable of supplying 350 watts in the frequency range 700 to 1300 MHz, which is also ideal for our 23 cm band. With a typical LDMOS supply voltage of 50 volts, approximately 10 to 14 amps is required to get the 350 watt output with a control of 8 watts, a comfortable 16 dB gain. Italian Technology Broadcast offers 490 Euro ex VAT a module for sale consisting of a built pallet with all parts on it and a copper base of 9.5 mm thick that needs to be mounted on a cooling plate. Further information and how to order this unit can be found via: http://vhelectronics.sk/index.php/en/rf-modules-and-boxes/alx-350-detail For those for whom this power is not yet sufficient, NXP has also announced a bigger brother, the MRF13750H, which can deliver an output of no less than 750 Watts in the band from 700 MHz up to and including 1300 MHz. With almost 20 dB gain, approximately 10 Watts is sufficient to send the transistor. This transistor will probably soon be on the market and possibly also as a complete one power pallets become available. Data from this transistor can be found at: https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/PRF13750H.pdf 70 cm EME with only 10 watts On 2 December 2017, the M6EBQ succeeded in making a 70cm EME QSO with DL7APV with only 10 Watt output. The connection in WSJT was made with 10 W output from a Yeasu FT857 and as antenna a DG7YBN 70-17m 17 element Yagi. The antenna used to design by DG7YBN uses a flat folded dipole with which very favorable characteristics can be achieved. The antenna has the property that the side lobes at the back are very well suppressed and thus a very good front-rear ratio for the length of this antenna. With 3.63 meters in length and a gain of 17.3 dBi and a front-back ratio of no less than 38 dB, this is also a very suitable antenna for contests. Of course, therefore, there is also little noise picked up and the antenna is also very suitable for moonbounce. Information on how to make this antenna can be found at: http://dg7ybn.de/432MHz/GTV70_17m.htm On 01/26/2018 01:43 PM, Brad Brooks wrote: > For those who receive the DKARS magazine, there is a very interesting article. The transceiver described is for ATV, but it looks like like it will tune to the AO-92 uplink frequency. Seems to put out 400mw FM out. I am not able to take time now to review deeper (stealing away from work) but I look forward to parsing through the schematic/links this weekend. I am forwarding this notice for anyone who will be able to get there sooner. I think there is some potential here, and I would like to know other? opinions. > > Www.dkars.nl > > 73 Brad WF7T > Nashville TN EM66 > _______________________________________________ > Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From DougPhelps at protonmail.com Wed Jan 31 00:40:40 2018 From: DougPhelps at protonmail.com (Doug Phelps) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:40:40 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Delta ST3 Trackbox In-Reply-To: <002d01d399ea$f48d1500$dda73f00$@ca> References: <002d01d399ea$f48d1500$dda73f00$@ca> Message-ID: I have a fox Delta st3. What is the problem? Mine seems to run fine has for years. Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On Jan 30, 2018, 10:54 AM, John Brodie wrote: > I'm new to this list and new to satellites also, so I would appreciate some > help. Is there anyone out there who uses a Fox Delta ST3 trackbox and would > be able to give me advice on a problem I am having with it? > > John VA7XB > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wthypsi at yahoo.com Wed Jan 31 01:17:28 2018 From: wthypsi at yahoo.com (William Herzberg) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 01:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand-held vhf/uhf radios. . References: <579514448.3156.1517361448798.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <579514448.3156.1517361448798@mail.yahoo.com> I have a yaesu ft-530 hts. They seem to be ideal as vhf/uhf radios... It can operate separately... And the radio can operate in full duplex mode... I also have a kenwood 700 that I've programmed for all the fm birds... Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From wageners at gmail.com Wed Jan 31 01:58:14 2018 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:58:14 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] XW2A satellite? In-Reply-To: References: <770199617.1902630.1517324363102@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I use it for testing adjusting my system, audio, polarization etc... :-) Have it all by myself over Canada! Stefan, VE4NSA On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Endaf Buckley wrote: > I've had many QSO's on 2A with myself ?. > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB < > amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > > > I've been on a few times by myself. I think sat ops forget about it at > > times. > > Rob KA2CZU > > > > On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 9:57:47 AM EST, Paul Stoetzer < > > n8hm at arrl.net> wrote: > > > > It's generally been on full-time. The CW beacon on 145.660 MHz or the > 9k6 > > GMSK telemetry on 145.640 MHz should always be heard if there's no > activity > > on the transponder. > > > > 73, > > > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Robert Bruninga > > wrote: > > > > > I should know this, but don?t. > > > My students tried to tune in XW2A but it was not on Heavens-above but > it > > > was > > > shown as having been heard by someone else today on the AMSAT Status > > page. > > > > > > But its downlink is outside of the AMSAT subband, so do they not turn > it > > on > > > except over China, or is the downlink on 145.675 operational? We did > not > > > hear anything. > > > > > > Bob, WB4APR > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions > > > expressed > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > > > AMSAT-NA. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From maccody at att.net Wed Jan 31 02:02:51 2018 From: maccody at att.net (Mac A. Cody) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 20:02:51 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter In-Reply-To: <9b60e371-7927-4b07-94f7-b992222e0de3@Spark> References: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> <9b60e371-7927-4b07-94f7-b992222e0de3@Spark> Message-ID: <47e42edc-df96-5bcd-be62-778e344f29f1@att.net> Looks like an interesting project, although the price of the kit is a bit more than I'd like to pay for what I'd be using it for: talking to AO-92 on L-band. I've been looking into something like a varactor-tuned frequency tripler, as shown a bit over half-way down this web page: http://www.sydneystormcity.com/microwave.htm The schematic is here: http://www.sydneystormcity.com/1296%20Tripler.gif It may not be an ideal solution but considering how often the L-band experiment will be active on AO-92, I'm looking at a cost-effective solution. 73, Mac Cody / AE5PH On 01/30/2018 02:40 PM, Brad Brooks wrote: > Good day to all. Related to my previous post, please check this link for an interesting NBFM transceiver board for L-band uplinks: > > http://www.pe1jpd.nl/index.php/23cm_nbfm/ > > Now I just need to find time! > > 73 Brad WF7T > EM66 > > On Jan 26, 2018, 1:43 PM -0600, Brad Brooks , wrote: >> For those who receive the DKARS magazine, there is a very interesting article. The transceiver described is for ATV, but it looks like like it will tune to the AO-92 uplink frequency. Seems to put out 400mw FM out. I am not able to take time now to review deeper (stealing away from work) but I look forward to parsing through the schematic/links this weekend. I am forwarding this notice for anyone who will be able to get there sooner. I think there is some potential here, and I would like to know other? opinions. >> >> Www.dkars.nl >> >> 73 Brad WF7T >> Nashville TN EM66 > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jan 31 02:44:31 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 02:44:31 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter In-Reply-To: <47e42edc-df96-5bcd-be62-778e344f29f1@att.net> References: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> <9b60e371-7927-4b07-94f7-b992222e0de3@Spark> <47e42edc-df96-5bcd-be62-778e344f29f1@att.net> Message-ID: Remember that Fox-1Cliff will also have an L-band uplink. And FUNcube on ESEO?s only uplink will be on L band, so any investment on 23 cm is actually for three satellites, not just one. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 21:03 Mac A. Cody wrote: > Looks like an interesting project, although the price of the kit is a > bit more than I'd like to pay for what I'd be using it for: talking to > AO-92 on L-band. > > I've been looking into something like a varactor-tuned frequency > tripler, as shown a bit over half-way down this web page: > http://www.sydneystormcity.com/microwave.htm > The schematic is here: http://www.sydneystormcity.com/1296%20Tripler.gif > It may not be an ideal solution but considering how often the L-band > experiment will be active on AO-92, I'm looking at a cost-effective > solution. > > 73, > > Mac Cody / AE5PH > > On 01/30/2018 02:40 PM, Brad Brooks wrote: > > Good day to all. Related to my previous post, please check this link for > an interesting NBFM transceiver board for L-band uplinks: > > > > http://www.pe1jpd.nl/index.php/23cm_nbfm/ > > > > Now I just need to find time! > > > > 73 Brad WF7T > > EM66 > > > > On Jan 26, 2018, 1:43 PM -0600, Brad Brooks , > wrote: > >> For those who receive the DKARS magazine, there is a very interesting > article. The transceiver described is for ATV, but it looks like like it > will tune to the AO-92 uplink frequency. Seems to put out 400mw FM out. I > am not able to take time now to review deeper (stealing away from work) but > I look forward to parsing through the schematic/links this weekend. I am > forwarding this notice for anyone who will be able to get there sooner. I > think there is some potential here, and I would like to know other? > opinions. > >> > >> Www.dkars.nl > >> > >> 73 Brad WF7T > >> Nashville TN EM66 > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aj9n at aol.com Wed Jan 31 04:56:55 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 23:56:55 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-31 04:30 UTC Message-ID: <1614a932a5e-1720-698c@webjas-vae016.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-01-31 04:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ? Central Magnet Math & Science ES/Batesville School District, Batesville, AR, telebridge, via IK1SLD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA Contact is a go for: Wed 2018-01-31 16:42:05 UTC 89 deg ? Moore Square AIG/GT Magnet School, Raleigh, NC, direct via KG4AKV The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA (***) Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-02-05 18:32:06 UTC 25 deg (***) ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 128 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 100 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-01-31 04:30 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1204. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1153. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Arkansas,?Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-01-25 08:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 53 on orbit Mark Vande Hei KG5GNP Alexander Misurkin Joe Acaba KE5DAR ? Exp. 54 on orbit Scott Tingle KG5NZA Norishige Kanai Alexander Skvortsov **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From brad.wf7t at gmail.com Wed Jan 31 05:14:56 2018 From: brad.wf7t at gmail.com (Brad Brooks) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 23:14:56 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Potential 23cm FM transmitter In-Reply-To: <1bec3a3b-993b-623e-3c8d-d92378482cb9@att.net> References: <551f6395-ebef-4cd9-bc2f-c20a9575c633@Spark> <1bec3a3b-993b-623e-3c8d-d92378482cb9@att.net> Message-ID: Mac, the arrival I was referencing started on page 20 of the Jan 2018 issue?a number of pages back from the region you quoted from. The links at the end of the article point to the following site of Bas PE1JPD, who has a nice single board FM unit that has potential. Looks like he offers his kits for about 158 Euros+shipping: http://www.pe1jpd.nl/index.php/23cm_nbfm/ 73 Brad WF7T On Jan 30, 2018, 7:47 PM -0600, Mac A. Cody , wrote: > This is my third attempt to post this message.? It seems that the AMSAT-BB > blocks messages with JPEG attachments.? Below is a Google translation of > the article on the 23cm transceiver inDKARS magazine. > > 73, > > Mac Cody / AE5PH > > VHF-UHF-SHF News > This month provided by Hans van Alphen, PA?EHG > > Nice new transistor for 23 cm PA > > Since the beginning of this year NXP has a nice power LDMOS transistor > in the range for the 23 cm band. > The transistor type: MRFE8VP13350 assumes pre-matched adaptation and is > designed for industrial, scientific and medical applications. The > transistor is capable of supplying 350 watts in the frequency range 700 > to 1300 MHz, which is also ideal for our 23 cm band. > With a typical LDMOS supply voltage of 50 volts, approximately 10 to 14 > amps is required to get the 350 watt output with a control of 8 watts, a > comfortable 16 dB gain. > > Italian Technology Broadcast offers 490 Euro ex VAT a module for sale > consisting of a built pallet with all parts on it and a copper base of > 9.5 mm thick that needs to be mounted on a cooling plate. > > Further information and how to order this unit can be found via: > http://vhelectronics.sk/index.php/en/rf-modules-and-boxes/alx-350-detail > > For those for whom this power is not yet sufficient, NXP has also > announced a bigger brother, the MRF13750H, which can deliver an output > of no less than 750 Watts in the band from 700 MHz up to and including > 1300 MHz. With almost 20 dB gain, approximately 10 Watts is sufficient > to send the transistor. This transistor will probably soon be on the > market and possibly also as a complete one > power pallets become available. Data from this transistor can be found at: > https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/PRF13750H.pdf > > 70 cm EME with only 10 watts > On 2 December 2017, the M6EBQ succeeded in making a 70cm EME QSO with > DL7APV with only 10 Watt output. The connection in WSJT was made with 10 > W output from a Yeasu FT857 and as antenna a DG7YBN 70-17m 17 element Yagi. > > The antenna used to design by DG7YBN uses a flat folded dipole with > which very favorable characteristics can be achieved. > > The antenna has the property that the side lobes at the back are very > well suppressed and thus a very good front-rear ratio for the length of > this antenna. > > With 3.63 meters in length and a gain of 17.3 dBi and a front-back ratio > of no less than 38 dB, this is also a very suitable antenna for > contests. Of course, therefore, there is also little noise picked up and > the antenna is also very suitable for moonbounce. > > Information on how to make this antenna can be found at: > http://dg7ybn.de/432MHz/GTV70_17m.htm > > > On 01/26/2018 01:43 PM, Brad Brooks wrote: > > For those who receive the DKARS magazine, there is a very interesting article. The transceiver described is for ATV, but it looks like like it will tune to the AO-92 uplink frequency. Seems to put out 400mw FM out. I am not able to take time now to review deeper (stealing away from work) but I look forward to parsing through the schematic/links this weekend. I am forwarding this notice for anyone who will be able to get there sooner. I think there is some potential here, and I would like to know other? opinions. > > > > Www.dkars.nl > > > > 73 Brad WF7T > > Nashville TN EM66 > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent viaAMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings:http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From g.shirville at btinternet.com Wed Jan 31 09:06:26 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:06:26 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change Message-ID: <63df728b-d9b1-29f7-d824-a1cc8a10812d@btinternet.com> Hi All, Due to operational constraints, AO73 is now in amateur mode, with the transponder active and low power telemetry until Sunday evening! Have FUN 73 Graham G3VZV From hp2vx at hotmail.com Tue Jan 30 19:45:18 2018 From: hp2vx at hotmail.com (Virgilio Castillo R.) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:45:18 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: For Android I have not found any better app than Iss Detector pro on handling ham Amateur Satellite data. For me, the Best!!!. I anchored my Phone on the homemade LPDA boom, point the sat guided by Detector screen and u r done..!!! Happy to have helped .. 73's Enviado desde mi Huawei 10 Mate Lite - Virgilio/HP2VX ________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of Philip Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:38:29 PM To: Don KB2YSI Cc: AMSAT BB; Doug Phelps Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Android - apps similar to Heavens-Above? Wow...i am blown away by ISS Detector! Like Don, I passed it by because I assumed it only dealt with ISS, and not any ham satellites...I had NO idea it had so many features! I purchased the Pro version for my tablet, and downloaded the original with the amateur satellite add-on for my smartphone Thanks again for the ISS Detector recommendation. Virgilio HP2VX also recommended this app in a private email to me, and Pedro LU7ABF reminded me of the AMSAT-Argentina website tracker, so thanks to them as well! Philip N4HF On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Don KB2YSI wrote: > Holy cow, I overlooked ISS Detector thinking it was only for ISS. For > $0.99 you remove the ads, add the Amateur satellites and can save the > list of the ones you want! > > If you want it for "free" get the Google opinion rewards app and answer a > few surveys when they pop up and receive a bit of store credit. > > Thank you John and Doug for the amazing recommendation. > > 73, Don KB2YSI > > On Jan 30, 2018 09:43, "Doug Phelps via AMSAT-BB" > wrote: > >> I second the vote for ISS Detector. If you buy the Amatuer Radio option >> for a few bucks, it is an excellent satellite AP. It even has a widget that >> constantly shows upcoming passes on the screen. >> >> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On Jan 29, 2018, 9:27 PM, John Brier wrote: >> >> > ISS Detector is my go to app for Android now. You have to purchase an >> > extra pack or the Pro version to get amateur radio sats. Only thing I >> > miss from Heavens-Above is it doesn't list time/azimuth of max >> > elevation. >> > >> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Philip Jenkins wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> >> >> I bought a new Android tablet on Saturday - Version 7.0, Nougat. >> >> >> >> AMSATDroid seems to work fine on it, other than displaying the date as >> >> "000001 29, 2018" >> >> >> >> On the tablet, I did a Google Play Store search for Heavens-Above >> (which >> >> runs great on my smartphone, which is running some flavor of Android >> 4.x) >> >> and Heavens-Above didn't show up in the store...which I thought "okay, >> >> that's strange". >> >> >> >> So tonight I went to the Heavens-Above website, thinking I would >> download >> >> the Android app from there. Google Play Store pops up with >> Heavens-Above >> >> app but I'm getting the message "Your device is not compatible with >> this >> >> version". >> >> >> >> So, what I'm looking for - assuming that the Heavens-Above app won't be >> >> updated - is a similar app which will run under 7.0. How about >> Satellite >> >> Tracker from Tythatguy. or Satellite Tracker by Vito Technology >> (reading >> >> the reviews, the latter doesn't seem to be as useful as Heavens-Above >> or >> >> Tythatguy's version). Any others you might recommend? >> >> >> >> Comments? Suggestions? Any way to make 7.0 backwardly compatible? >> >> >> >> Philip N4HF >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb @ >> gmail.com> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jan 31 16:39:08 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 11:39:08 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Please record our ARISS contact Monday February 5th! Message-ID: Hi amsat-bb! I am leading the ham team for an ARISS contact here in Raleigh and we are using my callsign for the contact. I would appreciate any audio recordings you can make of the pass, especially the part where Astronaut Scott Tingle hopefully says my callsign :-) I will be recording on both our primary and backup stations but you never know if we'll get a fade in the beginning. They will be on the Kenwood D710E in the service module with 50 watts so it should be a good signal. Moore Square AIG/GT Magnet School, Raleigh, NC, direct via KG4AKV The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA (***) Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-02-05 18:32:06 UTC 25 deg (***) FWIW, AFAIK there is no livestreaming planned. If there is I'll let people know. 73, John Brier KG4AKV From mstyne at k2mts.org Wed Jan 31 17:34:44 2018 From: mstyne at k2mts.org (Michael Styne) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 12:34:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Please record our ARISS contact Monday February 5th! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: John, This is a marginal pass here in 2-Land but I?d be happy to give recording a try. 73 Mike Michael Styne K2MTS mstyne at k2mts.org > On Jan 31, 2018, at 11:39 AM, John Brier wrote: > > Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-02-05 18:32:06 UTC 25 deg (***) From aardvark at saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com Wed Jan 31 19:21:33 2018 From: aardvark at saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com (Hugh Brown) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 11:21:33 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Please record our ARISS contact Monday February 5th! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180131192133.GZ27028@zombie.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> John Brier wrote: > Hi amsat-bb! > > I am leading the ham team for an ARISS contact here in Raleigh and we > are using my callsign for the contact. I would appreciate any audio > recordings you can make of the pass, especially the part where > Astronaut Scott Tingle hopefully says my callsign :-) I will be > recording on both our primary and backup stations but you never know > if we'll get a fade in the beginning. Hi John -- don't know if you've heard of SatNOGS[1] -- it's a global network of open source, networked DIY satellite ground stations. A number of stations recorded yesterday's contact with the Batesville, AR school[2], and I'm sure they'll be scheduling recordings for next week's pass as well. Congrats on leading the team, and good luck with the contact! Best, Hugh [1]: https://satnogs.org [2]: https://community.libre.space/t/ariss-contact-central-magnet-math-science-es-batesville-ar/1669 -- Hugh Brown http://saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jan 31 20:33:10 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:33:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Please record our ARISS contact Monday February 5th! In-Reply-To: <20180131192133.GZ27028@zombie.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> References: <20180131192133.GZ27028@zombie.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> Message-ID: Good idea! Thanks Hugh! 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Hugh Brown wrote: > John Brier wrote: >> Hi amsat-bb! >> >> I am leading the ham team for an ARISS contact here in Raleigh and we >> are using my callsign for the contact. I would appreciate any audio >> recordings you can make of the pass, especially the part where >> Astronaut Scott Tingle hopefully says my callsign :-) I will be >> recording on both our primary and backup stations but you never know >> if we'll get a fade in the beginning. > > Hi John -- don't know if you've heard of SatNOGS[1] -- it's a global > network of open source, networked DIY satellite ground stations. A > number of stations recorded yesterday's contact with the Batesville, > AR school[2], and I'm sure they'll be scheduling recordings for next > week's pass as well. > > Congrats on leading the team, and good luck with the contact! > > Best, > Hugh > > [1]: https://satnogs.org > [2]: https://community.libre.space/t/ariss-contact-central-magnet-math-science-es-batesville-ar/1669 > -- > Hugh Brown > http://saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jan 31 20:40:28 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:40:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Please record our ARISS contact Monday February 5th! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also if you could record a video of your reception that would be cool too as I'm sure the students would get a kick out of seeing how others from far away could hear the contact too. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:39 AM, John Brier wrote: > Hi amsat-bb! > > I am leading the ham team for an ARISS contact here in Raleigh and we > are using my callsign for the contact. I would appreciate any audio > recordings you can make of the pass, especially the part where > Astronaut Scott Tingle hopefully says my callsign :-) I will be > recording on both our primary and backup stations but you never know > if we'll get a fade in the beginning. > > They will be on the Kenwood D710E in the service module with 50 watts > so it should be a good signal. > > Moore Square AIG/GT Magnet School, Raleigh, NC, direct via KG4AKV > The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) > The scheduled astronaut is Scott Tingle KG5NZA (***) > Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-02-05 18:32:06 UTC 25 deg (***) > > FWIW, AFAIK there is no livestreaming planned. If there is I'll let people know. > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV