From johnbrier at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 02:15:39 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 22:15:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] I got VUCC! Message-ID: I haven't uploaded anywhere close to all my satellite contacts to Logbook of The World, but I uploaded enough to get 100 grids as of yesterday when WW8W confirmed our contact from 2018-06-17 on AO-91. He was in EN73. Thanks to everyone else who worked me. Clayton W5PFG got me the most grids at seven, and Gabe AL6D got me five, using almost as many callsigns! (NJ7H, NJ7H/VE3, NJ7H/HR9 and KM4RTS [I was too far from my QTH when I worked him in AK as AL6D]). Honorable mention to the rest of the folks that gave me more than one grid: WE4B, KM4LAO, WD9EWK, VE3HLS, KI4RO, KE0PBR, and AA5PK. Here is the full list: 7 W5PFG 3 WE4B 3 KM4LAO 2 WD9EWK 2 VE3HLS 2 NJ7H 2 KI4RO 2 KE0PBR 2 AA5PK 1 6Y5IDX 1 AA8CH 1 AA9LC 1 AB1OC 1 AC9E 1 AD0DX 1 AD0TM 1 AE5PH 1 AI6GS 1 FG8OJ 1 HP2VX 1 K0EKL 1 K0FFY 1 K0JM 1 K2MTS 1 K3RRR 1 K4FTP 1 K4KDR 1 K4LIX 1 K4RGK 1 K5IX 1 K8YSE 1 K9EI 1 KB2YSI 1 KB3GVC 1 KB6LTY 1 KC1EXK 1 KC4LE 1 KC9ELU 1 KD8ATF 1 KD9JUQ 1 KE4AL 1 KE8FZT 1 KG5GJT 1 KM4RTS 1 KM6NJL 1 KO4MA 1 N1JEZ 1 N3GS 1 N4SAX 1 N4UFO 1 N4YHC 1 N6UA/VE2 1 N7NEV 1 N8HM 1 N8MS 1 N9EAT 1 N9LQ 1 NA2AA 1 NB3T 1 NJ7H/HR9 1 NJ7H/VE3 1 NP4JV 1 TI2CDA 1 VA3NNA 1 VE3RCN 1 VE7CEW 1 W0DHB 1 W1GKT 1 W3ARD 1 W4DTA 1 W4FS 1 W4UOO 1 W7QL 1 W9EXP 1 WA5KBH 1 WB3CSY 1 WF7T 1 WN9Q 1 WU2M 1 WW8W 1 XE1SEW 1 XE1TD 1 XE2RV 1 XE3DX 73, John Brier KG4AKV From ruthwillet at icloud.com Sun Jul 1 11:29:44 2018 From: ruthwillet at icloud.com (Ruth Willet) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 07:29:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FM26 WMPLOTA Activation Message-ID: <2DF8E689-05FE-463A-A47D-BA0D7013CDD9@icloud.com> I will be active during WMPLOTA from FM26! As a reminder, here are the passes I plan to be on from Walmart #2000. Monday July 2 XW-2A 14:14z 11?W SO-50 14:25z 86?NW AO-92 15:05z 77?W SO-50 16:08z 10?NW AO-91 17:13z 67?E I hope to work you during this fun event! 73, Ruth KM4LAO From johnbrier at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 14:19:27 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 10:19:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] New FAQ "How do I program the Kenwood TH-D72A for satellites" Message-ID: I added a new FAQ to the sats wiki after I ran across the question twice in one day. http://sats.wikidot.com/how-do-i-program-the-kenwood-th-d72a-for-satellites First enable both the A and B bands by pressing DUAL (0 key). While the B band is selected enable full duplex using F -> DUP (0 key as well). DUP should be displayed at the top of the LCD screen. The Kenwood TH-D72A won't store cross-band split memories. I use the VFO instead. I store one memory each for the downlink and uplink (labeled "SO-50 DN" and "SO-50 UP" respectively) and transfer the downlink to the A band and the uplink to the B band using the F -> VFO key sequence. To adjust for doppler on SO-50 I have to switch from the B band (uplink/tx side) to the A band and then adjust the frequency, and then switch back to the A band to TX again. With the Fox birds (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92) you mostly only have to compensate for doppler on the uplink so you don't have to flip around from one band to the other as much. Alternatively you could program all the doppler corrected frequencies in memory and just use memories, but you still won't be able to do split operation and at least for SO-50 you'll have to switch back and forth between bands through the pass. This is my first stab at it and if anyone wants to add more or edit it for clarity/etc. let me know and I will give you access to the wiki so you can do it. 73, John Brier KG4AKV From awhitney42 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 1 14:28:41 2018 From: awhitney42 at yahoo.com (Adam Whitney) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 09:28:41 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SDR Recordings Requested for WMPLOTA Message-ID: <7D20AB1D-F172-4BED-9450-07819DBF5005@yahoo.com> The WMPLOTA scoring minion (me) is looking for a few kind souls in the US to record and post SDR recordings for the XW-2D and XW-2F passes around 00:00 UTC on July 2. (This evening at 7 PM US Central Time). My limited understanding is that SDR software can record the entire transponder, and this can be played back to select and listen to QSOs on the various transponder frequencies. I am hoping to use these recordings to help determine the winner of the Early ?Bird? Award, for the first confirmed QSO nearest to 00:00 UTC at the start of the event. Ideally, the recordings would be from a station in more southern US latitudes as the satellites ascend from the south. I am also interested in an audio recording of SO-50 around 00:10 UTC as a fall-back, in the unusual circumstance that no confirmed WMPLOTA QSOs happen on the two XW birds. Thank you for any help you can provide! -Adam, K0FFY Information About the WMPLOTA Event: The Walmart Parking Lots on the Air encore event is this Monday, July 2 at 00:00 UTC! WMPLOTA is a special event and award scheme for amateur radio satellite operators that encourages the practice of portable operation in the easily accessible location of Walmart parking lots with a maximum amount of fun. To participate you simply need to operate an amateur radio satellite station, and then choose to be an WMPLOTA Associate (activator), who operates portable from any Walmart parking lot, or a Shopper (chaser) operating from another location and contacting Associates. Awards include: - Early ?Bird? Award for the first QSO nearest to the 00:00 UTC starting time - First Contact Award for making your first ever satellite QSO during WMPLOTA - ?MacGuyver Works at Walmart? Award exercising your ingenuity to build and make a QSO with an antenna made entirely from stuff purchased in the store and assembled in the lot - Sam Walton Award testing your extreme roving skills for the most stores activated during the event - Distance Record for the largest distance QSO - the April record was 5,620 km between Rhode Island and Brazil over AO-7 For more information including the award scheme, please visit http://wmplota.org and follow us on Twitter @WMPLOTA. And remember to rollback the power, always. From w5rkn at w5rkn.com Sun Jul 1 16:22:38 2018 From: w5rkn at w5rkn.com (Ronald G. Parsons) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 11:22:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Awards-Endorsements for June 2018 Message-ID: <32942DB615E2497D90159AEBED16C567@Ron8300PC> Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period June 1, 2018 through July 1, 2018. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! CALL 01 Jun 01 Jul N8HM 1054 1068 AA5PK 1011 1042 N9IP 609 618 XE1AO 584 598 WD9EWK 441 450 AA9LC 299 416 AF5CC 314 338 VA3NNA 179 300 KC9ELU 220 229 W7JSD 189 215 G0ABI 200 206 KE8FZT 175 200 PT2AP 172 200 PS8ET 157 180 KE0PBR New 122 W3ARD New 119 N3ROY New 102 AD0DX New 101 W5PFG (DM95) New 100 W5PFG (EM12) New 100 If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at @.com and I'll revise the announcement. This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for June 1, 2018 and July 1, 2018. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work! 73, Ron W5RKN From k8tl at earthlink.net Sun Jul 1 23:58:28 2018 From: k8tl at earthlink.net (Tom Lubbers K8TL) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:58:28 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT 32 Message-ID: <2104259094.7739.1530489509243@wamui-berry.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Changing from my old XP to a windows 7 machine. Attempted up load from my disk but it said it was not compatible with my 64 bit operating system. So I tried a down load. Keeps telling me I must be signed in as ADMIN. I thought I was. I ran into this before but forget how I solved it!! Tom K8TL at earthlink.net. Thanks in advance. From kb2ysi at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 00:01:59 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:01:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] I got VUCC! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?Congratulations John!? On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 10:16 PM John Brier wrote: > I haven't uploaded anywhere close to all my satellite contacts to > Logbook of The World, but I uploaded enough to get 100 grids as of > yesterday when WW8W confirmed our contact from 2018-06-17 on AO-91. He > was in EN73. > > Thanks to everyone else who worked me. Clayton W5PFG got me the most > grids at seven, and Gabe AL6D got me five, using almost as many > callsigns! (NJ7H, NJ7H/VE3, NJ7H/HR9 and KM4RTS [I was too far from my > QTH when I worked him in AK as AL6D]). Honorable mention to the rest > of the folks that gave me more than one grid: WE4B, KM4LAO, WD9EWK, > VE3HLS, KI4RO, KE0PBR, and AA5PK. > > Here is the full list: > > 7 W5PFG > 3 WE4B > 3 KM4LAO > 2 WD9EWK > 2 VE3HLS > 2 NJ7H > 2 KI4RO > 2 KE0PBR > 2 AA5PK > 1 6Y5IDX > 1 AA8CH > 1 AA9LC > 1 AB1OC > 1 AC9E > 1 AD0DX > 1 AD0TM > 1 AE5PH > 1 AI6GS > 1 FG8OJ > 1 HP2VX > 1 K0EKL > 1 K0FFY > 1 K0JM > 1 K2MTS > 1 K3RRR > 1 K4FTP > 1 K4KDR > 1 K4LIX > 1 K4RGK > 1 K5IX > 1 K8YSE > 1 K9EI > 1 KB2YSI > 1 KB3GVC > 1 KB6LTY > 1 KC1EXK > 1 KC4LE > 1 KC9ELU > 1 KD8ATF > 1 KD9JUQ > 1 KE4AL > 1 KE8FZT > 1 KG5GJT > 1 KM4RTS > 1 KM6NJL > 1 KO4MA > 1 N1JEZ > 1 N3GS > 1 N4SAX > 1 N4UFO > 1 N4YHC > 1 N6UA/VE2 > 1 N7NEV > 1 N8HM > 1 N8MS > 1 N9EAT > 1 N9LQ > 1 NA2AA > 1 NB3T > 1 NJ7H/HR9 > 1 NJ7H/VE3 > 1 NP4JV > 1 TI2CDA > 1 VA3NNA > 1 VE3RCN > 1 VE7CEW > 1 W0DHB > 1 W1GKT > 1 W3ARD > 1 W4DTA > 1 W4FS > 1 W4UOO > 1 W7QL > 1 W9EXP > 1 WA5KBH > 1 WB3CSY > 1 WF7T > 1 WN9Q > 1 WU2M > 1 WW8W > 1 XE1SEW > 1 XE1TD > 1 XE2RV > 1 XE3DX > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- 73, Don KB2YSI https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi From wb3csy at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 00:06:08 2018 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:06:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT 32 In-Reply-To: <2104259094.7739.1530489509243@wamui-berry.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <2104259094.7739.1530489509243@wamui-berry.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Tom, right click on the file name and a menu should pop up, from it choose run as administrator. You should only have to do it once Rick WB3CSY Sent from Rick's iPhone 6S "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke "Klaatu Barada Nikto" - The Day the Earth Stood Still "I have been, and always shall be, your friend" - Spock > On Jul 1, 2018, at 7:58 PM, Tom Lubbers K8TL wrote: > > Changing from my old XP to a windows 7 machine. Attempted up load from my disk but it said it was not compatible with my 64 bit operating system. So I tried a down load. Keeps telling me I must be signed in as ADMIN. I thought I was. I ran into this before but forget how I solved it!! Tom K8TL at earthlink.net. > Thanks in advance. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kg5jup at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 00:39:44 2018 From: kg5jup at gmail.com (Chris Bradley (AA0CB)) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:39:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-185 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-182 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * Digital Communications Conference (DCC) Call for Papers * Invitation to the 2018 NASA AAQ Workshop - September 7, 2018 * China Microsatellite Symposium 2018 * K4R Dry Tortugas EL84 Roving Trip on Schedule for July 6 * Upcoming ARISS contacts * AMSAT Rover Award Updates * VUCC Awards-Endorsements for June 2018 * WMPLOTA 7/2 EN74 EN75 EN84 EN85 Rove * AMSAT-NA President to attend AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 * AMSAT BOD Nominees * Satellite Shorts SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-182.01 ANS-182 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 182.01 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE JULY 1, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-185.01 Digital Communications Conference (DCC) Call for Papers Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference (DCC) and publication in the Conference Proceedings. Annual conference proceedings are published by the ARRL. Presentation at the conference is not required for publication. Submission of papers are due by July 31st, 2018 and should be submitted to Maty Weinberg, ARRL 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 or via the Internet to maty at arrl.org The ARRL and TAPR DCC is an international forum for radio amateurs to meet, publish their work, and present new ideas and techniques. This year, the DCC is in Albuquerque, New Mexico, September 14- 16. Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories, experimental results, and practical applications. Topics include, but are not limited to: ? Software Defined Radio (SDR) ? Digital voice (D-Star, P25, WinDRM, FDMDV, DRMDV, G4GUO) ? Digital satellite communications ? Global position system ? Precise Timing ? Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) ? Short messaging (a mode of APRS) ? Digital Signal Processing (DSP) ? HF digital modes ? Internet interoperability with Amateur Radio networks ? Spread spectrum ? IEEE 802.11 and other Part 15 license-exempt systems adaptable for A mateur Radio ? Using TCP/IP networking over Amateur Radio ? Mesh and peer to peer wireless networking ? Emergency and Homeland Defense backup digital communications in Amateur Radio ? Updates on AX.25 and other wireless networking protocols ? Topics that advanced the Amateur Radio art Go to https://tinyurl.com/y7wgm6vh to view the guidelines for paper submissions [ANS thanks the TAPR PSR for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Invitation to the 2018 NASA AAQ Workshop - September 7, 2018 You are invited to participate in the 2018 NASA Academy of Aerospace Quality {AAQ) Workshop. This event will take place at Glenn Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio on Friday, September 7 from 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM. The event targets academics (faculty, researchers, students) involved with space related activities such as cube sat, small sat, high altitude balloon, rocket and more. It is also designed for those wishing to be involved with NASA space related projects. The event will feature speakers and a poster session. Travel stipends from NASA are available to attendees on a limited basis and will favor those giving a presentation or poster. There is no registration charge for attending the event but registration in advance is required. Please register at the link below by July 31. http://spider2.eng.auburn.edu/AAQ/registration.html The NASA Academy of Aerospace Quality is an open access virtual academy of educational modules, lessons learned, standards, case studies and more related to quality assurance for space related projects, especially those from academic based teams. The website is: http://aaq.auburn.edu Links to the agenda and materials from previous NASA AAQ Workshops can be found at the link below: http://aaq.eng.auburn.edu/events [ANS thanks Alice Smith and Jeff Smith for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- China Microsatellite Symposium 2018 The China Microsatellite Symposium(CMS2018), (www.microsatsymp.com) will be held at Northwestern Polytechnical University, Xi'an China on 18th - 20th November 2018. The symposium includes keynote presentations and several sessions which will focus on the design experience, scientific missions, launch opportunities and all new technologies about microsatellites. In addition, another import session, International CubeSat and Mission Contest will be held on 20th November 2018, after which a free launch opportunity of 3U CubeSat or 1U payload capacity will be awarded to the winner of the first prize. Participants can get information and submit the works through the official website of our contest: www.cubesatcontest.org. The submission deadlines for the abstract of CMS2018 and work of CubeSat contest are both August 31, 2018. You could submit abstract and get information on the website www.microsatsymp.com Along with the symposium, there will also be a related exhibition, during which you can find the updated progress of CubeSat, launchers and other related technology. For exhibitors, you could also get information about booth on the website. The event is supported by China National Space Administration, International Astronautical Federation, Chinese Society of Astronautics and Chinese Institute of Command and Control. If you have any questions, please contact service at microsatsymp.com. [ANS thanks Ray Nugent for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- K4R Dry Tortugas EL84 Roving Trip on Schedule for July 6 Robert KE4AL, Rich N4ESS, and Matthew, NJ4Y will be arriving on Garden Key, EL84np in the Dry Tortugas mid-day on Friday July 6, staying all day Saturday, and then leaving Sunday morning July 8. The team will be using the callsign K4R, and all logs will be uploaded to LOTW after the trip. Paper cards will be available on request via NJ4Y. They will also be able to tweet via a satellite messenger from the island, to our public twitter account at twitter.com/k4r_EL84 The K4R QRZ page is up to date with our info, as well as k4r2018.com. Their goal is to work anyone within ~7500km who needs EL84 on satel- lites. Check out the pass listing link at the above web pages and let them know if you have a special schedule request from the outer reaches of our range, especially in EU and South America. [ANS thanks Matthew, NJ4Y for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- UPCOMING ARISS CONTACTS Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL, direct via W9DWJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-07-02 15:35:42 UTC Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium, Bonn, Germany, direct via DL?IL The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-03 08:32:16 UTC ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able to get in. That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. http://www.ariss-eu.org/ If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-06-28 19:30 UTC. Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1234. Each school counts as 1 event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 11821. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. QSL information may be found at: http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-28 19:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_cor rection .rtf Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev [ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Rover Award Updates AMSAT Director of Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, says that congratulations are in order for the newest Rover Award operators, Chris, AA8CH, for earning award #024; and, Robert, WY7AA for earning Award #025. The AMSAT Rover award is granted to stations who achieve a combined 25 points using any combination of a list of achievements during their roving operations via amateur radio satellites. All of these combinations, including instructions of how to apply are posted at: https://www.amsat.org/amsat-rover-award/ - or from the main page - www.amsat.org --> Services --> Awards --> AMSAT Rover Award Examples of the point scoring include (access the Awards web page for details of multiplier points, etc.): + 1 point for each grid square activated outside your home grid square using a single-channel FM satellite transponder + 2 points for each grid square activated outside your home grid square using a linear (SSB/CW) satellite transponder. + 3 points for each grid square activated outside your home grid square using a digital mode satellite transponder. + 1 additional point for added to each grid square score for activating a state, province, or DX entity outside your home entities + 5 points for for advertising your grid operation using an open and public social media account, tagging @amsat or #amsat at least 24 hours in advance of the activation. + 5 points for photographing your grid operation and posting them afterwards using an open and public social media account, tagging @amsat or #amsat. + 10 points for activating a grid square while operating Maritime Mobile. + 15 points for 15 points for documenting your grid activation in an article published in the AMSAT Journal. AMSAT Rover Award winners to date include the following stations: Rover Call Date Issued ===== ============ =========== 001 AC0RA 02 Jan 2018 002 WD9EWK 05 Jan 2018 003 NJ4Y 08 Jan 2018 004 M0IDA 09 Jan 2018 005 KG5GJT 12 Jan 2018 006 EB1AO 18 Jan 2018 007 N7AGF 22 Jan 2018 008 N4YHC 29 Jan 2018 009 W0S 07 Feb 2018 010 KE0PBR 08 Feb 2018 011 K5IX 18 Feb 2018 012 AK4WQ 23 Feb 2018 013 WI7P 25 Feb 2018 014 K5ND 09 Mar 2018 015 N6UA 12 Mar 2018 016 N9IP 16 Mar 2018 017 N4UFO 04 Apr 2018 018 K7TAB 27 Apr 2018 019 K8BL 10 May 2018 020 AD0DX 16 May 2018 021 HB9WDF 28 May 2018 022 KE4AL 28 May 2018 023 KE9AJ 30 May 2018 024 AA8CH 27 Jun 2018 025 WY7AA 29 Jun 2018 [ANS thanks AMSAT Director of Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- WMPLOTA 7/2 EN74 EN75 EN84 EN85 Rove 7/2/18 Objects AOS (U) LOS Period 1. EN74 WM1432 Cadillac XW-2D 00:01 00:09 XW-2F 00:05 00:13 SO-50 00:12 00:25 2. EN74 WM2014 Houghton Lake SO-50 01:54 02:03 (*Low Pass Attempt) AO-92 02:03 02:13 AO-73 02:32 02:38 (*Low Pass Attempt) Falconsat-3 02:43 02:53 FO-29 02:45 02:55 (*Low Pass Attempt) AO-85 02:59 03:06 (*Low Pass Attempt) AO-92 03:37 03:46 3. EN74 WM5159 West Branch XW-2B 11:57 12:07 AO-07 12:06 12:22 4. EN84 WM5376 Tawas XW-2B 13:33 13:39 (*Low Pass Attempt) AO-07 14:01 14:04 (*Low Pass Attempt) XW-2A 14:13 14:22 AO-73 14:15 14:26 SO-50 14:27 14:38 AO-92 15:05 15:14 5. EN85 WM2358 Alpena AO-92 16:39 16:47 AO-91 17:16 17:30 6. EN75 WM1542 Gaylord AO-91 18:52 19:06 AO-07 19:19 19:39 7. EN75 WM2417 Petosky XW-2C 21:49 21:58 XW-2D 22:12 22:22 XW-2F 22:15 22:25 AO-85 22:15 22:28 8. EN75 WM2100 Cheboygan XW-2C 23:22 23:32 AO-73 23:35 23:45 XW-2D 23:47 23:56 XW-2F 23:50 23:59 AO-85 23:57 00:08 7/3/18 EN75 Holiday Style Maybe Wish me luck on my first real rove, all stops are in a new VUCC circle, please work me if there is room. Manual tuning on linear birds, please be patient. [ANS thanks Andrew, KE8FZT for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- VUCC Awards-Endorsements for June 2018 Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite Awards issued by the ARRL for the period June 1, 2018 through July 1, 2018. Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! CALL 01 Jun 01 Jul N8HM 1054 1068 AA5PK 1011 1042 N9IP 609 618 XE1AO 584 598 WD9EWK 441 450 AA9LC 299 416 AF5CC 314 338 VA3NNA 179 300 KC9ELU 220 229 W7JSD 189 215 G0ABI 200 206 KE8FZT 175 200 PT2AP 172 200 PS8ET 157 180 KE0PBR New 122 W3ARD New 119 N3ROY New 102 AD0DX New 101 W5PFG (DM95) New 100 W5PFG (EM12) New 100 If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list at @.com and I'll revise the announcement. This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf listings for June 1, 2018 and July 1, 2018. It's a visual comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your call was not mentioned. Thanks to all those who are roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are doing most of the work! [ANS thanks Ron, W5RKN for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT-NA President to attend AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 AMSAT-UK is very happy to announce that the dates of the next AMSAT-UK Colloquium will be October 13-14, 2018. The AMSAT-UK Colloquium, incorporated into the RSGB Convention, will take place at the Kents Hill Park Conference Centre, Timbold Drive, Milton Keynes, MK7 6BZ. The AMSAT-UK Committee are pleased to announce that Joe Spier, K6WAO will be presenting a paper entitled '50 Years of AMSAT and Beyond' AMSAT-UK invites speakers, to cover topics about Amateur satellites, CubeSats, Nanosats, Space, High Altitude Balloons and associated activities, for this event. Those wishing to speak should contact Dave, G4DPZ, dave at g4dpz dot me dot uk AMSAT-UK Colloquium web page: https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/ The schedule will be at http://rsgb.org/main/about-us/rsgb-convention/rsgb-convention- programme/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- FP/KV1J 3 - 17 July 2018 GN17 Includes Satellite Operation Eric, KV1J will be active on the Sats from the French island of Miquelon from 3 July through 17 July as FP/KV1J. This will be his 12th trip to the island. He mostly operate the low bands and 6 meters. When the WX is good, he will try to get outside and work the linear birds. Occasionally, he plans to also be on the FM birds using a pair of FT-817s and an Arrow antenna. Most of the time he will be grid GN17. If he is on the main island of St Pierre or if he can borrow a car a drive to Langlade, he will be GN16. The island has limited internet. His email is kv1j (at) arrl.net More information at: http://www.kv1j.com/fp/July18.html [ANS thanks Eric KV1J / FP/KV1J for the above information and wishes him success on his trip] -------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT BOD Nominees The 2018 candidates, in alphabetical order by last name are: Tom Clark, K3IO Mark Hammond, N8MH Scott Harvey, KA7FVV Bruce Paige, KK5DO Peter Portanova, W2JV This year AMSAT-NA will be electing three voting members of the Board of Directors. These will go to the three candidates receiving the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternates chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. Ballots will be mailed to the AMSAT-NA membership by July 15, 2018 and must be received at the AMSAT office by September 15, 2018 in order to be counted. Those sent outside North America will go by air mail. If you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for your location, please contact the AMSAT office. Completed ballots should be returned as promptly as possible, and those from outside North America preferably by air mail. Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the Board. You have the option to vote for up to three candidates. [ANS thanks Clayton, W5PFG for the above information and wishes him success on his trip] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts + Stations in the USA mid-west and Canada will have the opportunity to hear the ISS on 145.800 MHz for a school contact with the Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL. This will be a direct contact between NA1SS and W9DWJ. The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT. The contact is planned for: Mon 2018-07-02 at 15:35:42 UTC. (via ARISS) + AMSAT has discovered a pagination problem from printer error in the May/June issue of the AMSAT Journal. Please take a look at the issue you just received and, if you see any missing or duplicate pages, let Martha know ASAP at the AMSAT office at martha at amsat.org. + Congrats to Sean Kutzko, KX9X, on winning the June QST Cover Plaque for his article "Get on the Satellites for ARRL Field Day." The article has been reprinted on the AMSAT website with the ARRL's permission. Although Field Day is over for an another Year Sean's article gives good operating tips for every pass. Check it out! https://www.amsat.org/get-on-the-satellites-for-field-day/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Chris Bradley, AA0CB aa0cb at amsat dot org From rjlawn at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 01:03:21 2018 From: rjlawn at gmail.com (Richard Lawn) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 21:03:21 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable operation from FN-21 Message-ID: Thanks again to those who helped me to sort out my 5400B rotor issues. Today I got the station up and running from Lakeville, Pa, FN21. I?ve already made a number of contacts that verified everything is finally working as it should. I?m using computer control of a single Arrow antenna with a 9100. I hope to work as many of the 13 colonies as possible. 73 and happy 4th Rick, W2JAZ -- Sent from Gmail Mobile From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Jul 2 04:41:37 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 23:41:37 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Help for "Moon Day" Message-ID: <00a701d411be$f86e65b0$e94b3110$@verizon.net> I am looking to recruit additional volunteers from the AMSAT community in North Texas, Central Texas or elsewhere, to help promote "Amateur Radio in Space" to a large public STEM event. "Moon Day" at the Frontiers of Flight Museum at Love Field in Dallas Texas on July 21, 2018 is the largest space themed STEM event in Texas. Last year saw 1500 people attend the 6 hour event. https://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day/ Again this year, I am heading an exhibit and satellite demos for AMSAT. We have a table inside the Museum, (Alongside the Dallas Amateur Radio Club Table), and a demonstration area outside. I will be setting up the outside activities and hope to work as many satellite passes as possible during the 10A-4P run of the show. I am looking for AMSAT people to both help with the inside table and also with the outside demonstrations. Joe Spier has promised me that he will send me the FOX "Engineering Model" but I am looking for additional demonstration aids to illustrate satellite orbits and other aspects of space communications like various types of antennas. Being a STEM event, there will be many young people in attendance, (General public as well as Boy and Girl Scouts), and they get a chance to earn a STEM patch by answering questions from exhibitors like US. Each year I do this, I am also surprised by ho many Hams I talk to at the event who are either inactive or have never experienced Amateur Satellites. We really need people and content for Moon Day so please consider spending Saturday, July 21 with us. Contact me off list for more information. N5hyp at arrl.net Oh by the way, next year, 2019, is the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing. The Moon Day event is planning a big splash then and it would be really interesting to see a portable EME station as part of the mix. That would generate a lot of interest I would suspect. My looking at moon phase predictions for next year showed that I think they would be favorable. Keep that in the back of your mind and I will bring it up next year. Hope to see you at Moon Day, 2018. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Jul 2 04:55:49 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 23:55:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. Message-ID: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> Now I see looking at SatPC32 that it shows AO-7 in the 99,625 range in orbit count. If memory serves me right though, doesn't the TLE orbit count roll over at 99,999 (Just like a car odometer), so that would mean that we would be coming up to the 200,000th rev is that right? If I am right, then this will be coming up in less than a month. Does anybody know exactly when that will be? I am doing a presentation for a local club and would like to throw out that fact if I could. Also the day of that event would be good AO-7 operating day I would think. 73 Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 07:47:28 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 02:47:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> Tom, According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit 99999 on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly when. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: 12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a diameter the second time already but it might have been hiring slower when originally launched. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > > Tom, > > According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit 99999 > on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly > when. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > orbit > that > throw > < > <73 > < > < > < > < > <_______________________________________________ > AMSAT- > From n8hm at arrl.net Mon Jul 2 14:07:46 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 10:07:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Tom, AO-7 was launched on November 14, 1974, that's 15,935 days ago. Multiplying 15,935 by it's current mean motion of 12.53633150 revs/day gets you 199,766 orbits. The orbit number is currently 99,630, so there is a bit of error there. The mean motion should have very slightly decreased over the past 43 years as the minimal atmospheric drag ever so slightly slows it down. 73, Paul, N8HM On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Tom Schuessler wrote: > 12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a > diameter the second time already but it might have been hiring slower when > originally launched. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > > > > Tom, > > > > According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit > 99999 > > on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly > > when. > > > > 73, > > > > Alan > > WA4SCA > > > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > < > > > orbit > > roll > > would > > this > > > that > > > throw > > > > < > > <73 > > < > > > > < > > < > > < > > <_______________________________________________ > > > Opinions > > > > AMSAT- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 14:21:38 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 09:21:38 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> Tom, It has in fact turned over once already. 73, Alan WA4SCA Sent from my Waring blender. <-----Original Message----- On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: <> <> Tom, <> <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit 99999 <> on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly <> when. <> <> 73, <> <> Alan <> WA4SCA <> <> <> <-----Original Message----- <> <> < <> orbit <> that <> throw <> < <> <73 <> < <> < <> < <> < <> <_______________________________________________ <> AMSAT- <> From k8tl at earthlink.net Mon Jul 2 14:45:37 2018 From: k8tl at earthlink.net (Tom Lubbers K8TL) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 10:45:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks for the help Message-ID: <988163871.1791.1530542737900@wamui-eagle.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks to all for putting me on the right track. However step one was to EXTRACT ALL from the downloaded zip file. Then go to the set up program. Every time I start the program a get a box ?OLE-feitler 8004503a,classID?A5584957-EF07-419c???.. But it seems to be running ok. Changing computers can be a challenge. 5400 control box developed 2 bad switches, no replacement available from Yeasu. Considered new control box, no longer available! Could use the new box and hang the start condenser out board or build and outboard set of switches. Then I stopped at the Green Heron booth at Xenia. Only that controller will not work with Windows XP, my last computer with RS232 built in. So trying to get things up and running on a Windows 7 machine. Also replacing the old KLM crossed yagis. From media at skilabz.in Mon Jul 2 10:05:08 2018 From: media at skilabz.in (media at skilabz.in) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 10:05:08 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fly your Payload Free from India - International Balloon Satellite Launch Challenge JULY 2018 In-Reply-To: <96f3d81e433be766e942cd1c54b9b766@skilabz.in> References: <96f3d81e433be766e942cd1c54b9b766@skilabz.in> Message-ID: <0ef706ef613018c1bf8c1e7a7c41e93d@skilabz.in> Hi, The 1st FREE OF COST International Balloon ?Satellite? Launch CHALLENGE is open across the Globe for participants below 21 years of age. Leveraging the power of technology, the State of Rajasthan in India has become the ?Digitalization Hub of India?. In the upcoming three-day technology carnival by the Government of Rajasthan- ?Rajasthan Digifest 2018?, held at Jaipur (known as the Pink city of the world) there will be a plethora of opportunities for everyone. From insightful workshops to varied exciting events, the fest would have a lot to offer. Taking a step further, Government of Rajasthan in collaboration with Space Kidz India, is organizing an ?International Balloon Challenge? on the 25th & 26th July 2018. This challenge has been initiated to mark a tribute towards our former President and reputed Scientist Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam. Set with the motto- ?Dream. Imagine. Believe?, it is an open competition for everyone aged below 21 years. The participant will have the opportunity to fly their payload ?near space? in a balloon FREE OF COST. Following are some notable points in respect to the challenge: ? The payload must fit inside a 1U Cube3 and the weight should be 500 grams including the battery. ? No hazardous chemicals are allowed. ? Biological experiments containing living micro-organisms shall not be allowed. ? Only Original Ideas will be entertained. ? Any findings of plagiarisms can get the participant eliminated and permanently banned from participating in the future. ? If approved by Space Kids India you can also come directly to the venue and fly your payload. ? Accommodation and food facility for teams coming directly will be provided for two days. Payload should reach our Chennai Office (Add. given below) on or before the 18th of July 2018. Space Kidz India, No.1-B, Nutech Narayana Apartments, 48, Thirumalai Pillai Road, T.Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India Space Kidz India and Government of Rajasthan invites students for this exciting and adventurous ?International Balloon Challenge? to be held on 25th & 26th July 2018. The competition not only looks inspiring & challenging, but will help the participants to meet like-minded people from different nook and corner of the world uniting together with a strong competitive edge. It?s time to help our younger generation to showcase their skills and let their dreams fly high! Our Contacts for further clarification: Mr. Rifath +919518535615 shaarookrsr at live.com Mr. Vijay +917708574647 vijaypp01 at gmail.com Mr. Priyadharshan +918220333449 prabhupriyadharshan at gmail.com Mr. Tanishq +919940515800 forutanishq at gmail.com Mr. Yagna +919912752744 yagnasai7 at gmail.com Dr. Srimathy +914448535376 spacekidzindia at gmail.com SpaceKidz India Team Chennai, INDIA From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 16:29:15 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 09:29:15 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Alan, Other shoe, please? What happened to the world's prediction software (if, indeed, we even had any back then) when it rolled over? What is expected this time? We survived Y2K, but did we learn anything from it? Greg KO6TH Alan wrote: > Tom, > > It has in fact turned over once already. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > Sent from my Waring blender. > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a > < > < > <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > <> > <> Tom, > <> > <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit 99999 > <> on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly > <> when. > <> > <> 73, > <> > <> Alan > <> WA4SCA > <> > <> > <> <-----Original Message----- > <> <> <> <> > <> <> < > <> <> orbit > <> <> <> <> <> that > <> <> throw > <> <> <> < > <> <73 > <> < > <> <> <> < > <> < > <> < > <> <_______________________________________________ > <> <> <> <> <> AMSAT- > <> <> <> <> <> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 17:25:00 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:25:00 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> Greg, Fortunately this is not a TEOTWAWKI Y2K issue. Unlike most of the other numbers in the Keps, the orbit count has nothing to do with predicting the orbit, and can be completely ignored. Some programs do that. Others compute backwards and forwards from the reference epoch and orbit number in the Keps they are using. I am most familiar with SatPC32, and when working on prelaunch Keps recently, I found that if you ran it backwards in time before the launch, it will happily show negative numbers. ;) The problem is that when the specification for the Keps we use was created, it only allowed 5 digits for the orbit count. That seemed enough, and comes from Space Track that way. So like an odometer it just rolls over. In principle, software could look for that, and automatically compensate. I can't speak for all the software out there, but in most cases they will just roll over and keep on tracking. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Tom, <> <> It has in fact turned over once already. <> <> 73, <> <> Alan <> WA4SCA <> <> Sent from my Waring blender. <> <> <> <-----Original Message----- <> <> < <> <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a <> < <> < <> <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: <> <> <> <> Tom, <> <> <> <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit 99999 <> <> on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly <> <> when. <> <> <> <> 73, <> <> <> <> Alan <> <> WA4SCA <> <> <> <> <> <> <-----Original Message----- <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> < <> <> <> orbit <> <> <> <> <> <> that <> <> <> throw <> <> <> <> < <> <> <73 <> <> < <> <> <> <> < <> <> < <> <> < <> <> <_______________________________________________ <> <> <> <> <> <> AMSAT- <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pconver at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 18:05:56 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:05:56 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, Nice idea to celebrate AO-7 200th orbit anniversary, our beloved grandfather bird merits it. Looks that 200k orbit will happen around August the 1st see: http://amsat.org.ar/ao7-200k.gif . http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=ao-7 account for orbits above 100k. We hams should be thankful to have AO-7 alive, duly recognizing those that made it possible . 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On 7/2/18, Alan wrote: > Greg, > > Fortunately this is not a TEOTWAWKI Y2K issue. Unlike most of the other > numbers in the Keps, the orbit count has nothing to do with predicting the > orbit, and can be completely ignored. Some programs do that. Others > compute backwards and forwards from the reference epoch and orbit number in > the Keps they are using. I am most familiar with SatPC32, and when working > on prelaunch Keps recently, I found that if you ran it backwards in time > before the launch, it will happily show negative numbers. ;) > > The problem is that when the specification for the Keps we use was created, > it only allowed 5 digits for the orbit count. That seemed enough, and > comes > from Space Track that way. So like an odometer it just rolls over. In > principle, software could look for that, and automatically compensate. > > I can't speak for all the software out there, but in most cases they will > just roll over and keep on tracking. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > > < > < > <(if, indeed, we even had any back then) when it rolled over? What is > < > < > < > < > <> Tom, > <> > <> It has in fact turned over once already. > <> > <> 73, > <> > <> Alan > <> WA4SCA > <> > <> Sent from my Waring blender. > <> > <> > <> <-----Original Message----- > <> <> <> <> > <> <> < > <> <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a > <> <> <> < > <> <> < > <> <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > <> <> > <> <> Tom, > <> <> > <> <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit > 99999 > <> <> on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out > exactly > <> <> when. > <> <> > <> <> 73, > <> <> > <> <> Alan > <> <> WA4SCA > <> <> > <> <> > <> <> <-----Original Message----- > <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> > <> <> <> <> < > <> <> in > <> <> orbit > <> <> count > <> <> we > <> <> <> then > this > <> <> <> <> that > <> <> to > <> <> throw > <> <> AO-7 > <> <> <> <> < > <> <> <73 > <> <> < > <> <> <> <> <> <> < > <> <> < > <> <> < > <> <> <_______________________________________________ > <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> views > of > <> <> AMSAT- > <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> > <> > <> _______________________________________________ > <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n8fgv at usa.net Mon Jul 2 19:01:59 2018 From: n8fgv at usa.net (Daniel Schultz) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:01:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 AMSAT Symposium Call for Papers Message-ID: <785wgBTa80672Set.1530558119@web07.cms.usa.net> This is the first call for papers for the 2018 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and Space Symposium to be held on the weekend of November 2 - 4 at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible. The final copy must be submitted by October 15th for inclusion in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz at n8fgv(at)amsat.org 73, Dan Schultz N8FGV From Saguaroastro at cox.net Tue Jul 3 01:05:54 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:05:54 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] I got VUCC! Message-ID: Congratulations, De K7TEJ, VUCC 217 Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On June 30, 2018, at 19:15, John Brier wrote: I haven't uploaded anywhere close to all my satellite contacts to Logbook of The World, but I uploaded enough to get 100 grids as of yesterday when WW8W confirmed our contact from 2018-06-17 on AO-91. He was in EN73. Thanks to everyone else who worked me. Clayton W5PFG got me the most grids at seven, and Gabe AL6D got me five, using almost as many callsigns! (NJ7H, NJ7H/VE3, NJ7H/HR9 and KM4RTS [I was too far from my QTH when I worked him in AK as AL6D]). Honorable mention to the rest of the folks that gave me more than one grid: WE4B, KM4LAO, WD9EWK, VE3HLS, KI4RO, KE0PBR, and AA5PK. Here is the full list: 7 W5PFG 3 WE4B 3 KM4LAO 2 WD9EWK 2 VE3HLS 2 NJ7H 2 KI4RO 2 KE0PBR 2 AA5PK 1 6Y5IDX 1 AA8CH 1 AA9LC 1 AB1OC 1 AC9E 1 AD0DX 1 AD0TM 1 AE5PH 1 AI6GS 1 FG8OJ 1 HP2VX 1 K0EKL 1 K0FFY 1 K0JM 1 K2MTS 1 K3RRR 1 K4FTP 1 K4KDR 1 K4LIX 1 K4RGK 1 K5IX 1 K8YSE 1 K9EI 1 KB2YSI 1 KB3GVC 1 KB6LTY 1 KC1EXK 1 KC4LE 1 KC9ELU 1 KD8ATF 1 KD9JUQ 1 KE4AL 1 KE8FZT 1 KG5GJT 1 KM4RTS 1 KM6NJL 1 KO4MA 1 N1JEZ 1 N3GS 1 N4SAX 1 N4UFO 1 N4YHC 1 N6UA/VE2 1 N7NEV 1 N8HM 1 N8MS 1 N9EAT 1 N9LQ 1 NA2AA 1 NB3T 1 NJ7H/HR9 1 NJ7H/VE3 1 NP4JV 1 TI2CDA 1 VA3NNA 1 VE3RCN 1 VE7CEW 1 W0DHB 1 W1GKT 1 W3ARD 1 W4DTA 1 W4FS 1 W4UOO 1 W7QL 1 W9EXP 1 WA5KBH 1 WB3CSY 1 WF7T 1 WN9Q 1 WU2M 1 WW8W 1 XE1SEW 1 XE1TD 1 XE2RV 1 XE3DX 73, John Brier KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jeff30339 at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 01:09:32 2018 From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 20:09:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] I got VUCC! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6364D3BA-C76A-4236-8720-1D72A127A2F9@gmail.com> Glad I could help out! 73 de WE4B Jeff > > On June 30, 2018, at 19:15, John Brier wrote: > > I haven't uploaded anywhere close to all my satellite contacts to > Logbook of The World, but I uploaded enough to get 100 grids as of > yesterday when WW8W confirmed our contact from 2018-06-17 on AO-91. He > was in EN73. > > Thanks to everyone else who worked me. Clayton W5PFG got me the most > grids at seven, and Gabe AL6D got me five, using almost as many > callsigns! (NJ7H, NJ7H/VE3, NJ7H/HR9 and KM4RTS [I was too far from my > QTH when I worked him in AK as AL6D]). Honorable mention to the rest > of the folks that gave me more than one grid: WE4B, KM4LAO, WD9EWK, > VE3HLS, KI4RO, KE0PBR, and AA5PK. > > Here is the full list: > > 7 W5PFG > 3 WE4B > 3 KM4LAO > 2 WD9EWK > 2 VE3HLS > 2 NJ7H > 2 KI4RO > 2 KE0PBR > 2 AA5PK > 1 6Y5IDX > 1 AA8CH > 1 AA9LC > 1 AB1OC > 1 AC9E > 1 AD0DX > 1 AD0TM > 1 AE5PH > 1 AI6GS > 1 FG8OJ > 1 HP2VX > 1 K0EKL > 1 K0FFY > 1 K0JM > 1 K2MTS > 1 K3RRR > 1 K4FTP > 1 K4KDR > 1 K4LIX > 1 K4RGK > 1 K5IX > 1 K8YSE > 1 K9EI > 1 KB2YSI > 1 KB3GVC > 1 KB6LTY > 1 KC1EXK > 1 KC4LE > 1 KC9ELU > 1 KD8ATF > 1 KD9JUQ > 1 KE4AL > 1 KE8FZT > 1 KG5GJT > 1 KM4RTS > 1 KM6NJL > 1 KO4MA > 1 N1JEZ > 1 N3GS > 1 N4SAX > 1 N4UFO > 1 N4YHC > 1 N6UA/VE2 > 1 N7NEV > 1 N8HM > 1 N8MS > 1 N9EAT > 1 N9LQ > 1 NA2AA > 1 NB3T > 1 NJ7H/HR9 > 1 NJ7H/VE3 > 1 NP4JV > 1 TI2CDA > 1 VA3NNA > 1 VE3RCN > 1 VE7CEW > 1 W0DHB > 1 W1GKT > 1 W3ARD > 1 W4DTA > 1 W4FS > 1 W4UOO > 1 W7QL > 1 W9EXP > 1 WA5KBH > 1 WB3CSY > 1 WF7T > 1 WN9Q > 1 WU2M > 1 WW8W > 1 XE1SEW > 1 XE1TD > 1 XE2RV > 1 XE3DX > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 02:03:28 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 22:03:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] I got VUCC! In-Reply-To: <6364D3BA-C76A-4236-8720-1D72A127A2F9@gmail.com> References: <6364D3BA-C76A-4236-8720-1D72A127A2F9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rick and Jeff! 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Jeff wrote: > Glad I could help out! > > 73 de WE4B > Jeff > >> >> On June 30, 2018, at 19:15, John Brier wrote: >> >> I haven't uploaded anywhere close to all my satellite contacts to >> Logbook of The World, but I uploaded enough to get 100 grids as of >> yesterday when WW8W confirmed our contact from 2018-06-17 on AO-91. He >> was in EN73. >> >> Thanks to everyone else who worked me. Clayton W5PFG got me the most >> grids at seven, and Gabe AL6D got me five, using almost as many >> callsigns! (NJ7H, NJ7H/VE3, NJ7H/HR9 and KM4RTS [I was too far from my >> QTH when I worked him in AK as AL6D]). Honorable mention to the rest >> of the folks that gave me more than one grid: WE4B, KM4LAO, WD9EWK, >> VE3HLS, KI4RO, KE0PBR, and AA5PK. >> >> Here is the full list: >> >> 7 W5PFG >> 3 WE4B >> 3 KM4LAO >> 2 WD9EWK >> 2 VE3HLS >> 2 NJ7H >> 2 KI4RO >> 2 KE0PBR >> 2 AA5PK >> 1 6Y5IDX >> 1 AA8CH >> 1 AA9LC >> 1 AB1OC >> 1 AC9E >> 1 AD0DX >> 1 AD0TM >> 1 AE5PH >> 1 AI6GS >> 1 FG8OJ >> 1 HP2VX >> 1 K0EKL >> 1 K0FFY >> 1 K0JM >> 1 K2MTS >> 1 K3RRR >> 1 K4FTP >> 1 K4KDR >> 1 K4LIX >> 1 K4RGK >> 1 K5IX >> 1 K8YSE >> 1 K9EI >> 1 KB2YSI >> 1 KB3GVC >> 1 KB6LTY >> 1 KC1EXK >> 1 KC4LE >> 1 KC9ELU >> 1 KD8ATF >> 1 KD9JUQ >> 1 KE4AL >> 1 KE8FZT >> 1 KG5GJT >> 1 KM4RTS >> 1 KM6NJL >> 1 KO4MA >> 1 N1JEZ >> 1 N3GS >> 1 N4SAX >> 1 N4UFO >> 1 N4YHC >> 1 N6UA/VE2 >> 1 N7NEV >> 1 N8HM >> 1 N8MS >> 1 N9EAT >> 1 N9LQ >> 1 NA2AA >> 1 NB3T >> 1 NJ7H/HR9 >> 1 NJ7H/VE3 >> 1 NP4JV >> 1 TI2CDA >> 1 VA3NNA >> 1 VE3RCN >> 1 VE7CEW >> 1 W0DHB >> 1 W1GKT >> 1 W3ARD >> 1 W4DTA >> 1 W4FS >> 1 W4UOO >> 1 W7QL >> 1 W9EXP >> 1 WA5KBH >> 1 WB3CSY >> 1 WF7T >> 1 WN9Q >> 1 WU2M >> 1 WW8W >> 1 XE1SEW >> 1 XE1TD >> 1 XE2RV >> 1 XE3DX >> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From OLDBIKER at sky.com Tue Jul 3 12:58:23 2018 From: OLDBIKER at sky.com (Roger Titmuss) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:58:23 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 Antennas Message-ID: <000001d412cd$86862180$93926480$@com> Hi everyone has anybody had any experience or knowledge of this companies SATPACK1 consisting of a double loop for 2 and another for 70 on a boom, I could get this array up to about 45 feet if that helps, it seems a bit pricey but if it works it works. As you can tell I am a newbie and would be grateful for any advice. Regards Roger From kl0s at cox.net Tue Jul 3 13:58:18 2018 From: kl0s at cox.net (Dino Papas) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 09:58:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 Antennas In-Reply-To: <6Des1y00V4F0Vt701Det0i> References: <6Des1y00V4F0Vt701Det0i> Message-ID: <15EDE9CF-344C-4EF3-BA0C-EF587A70375E@cox.net> When our club conducted a ARISS contact for a local middle school we had a problem with the main station on the yagi at the very last instant. We switched to the secondary station with the M2 eggbeater and we made the contact with no problem. Of course we had to use a defibrillator to get my heart started again during those crucial switchover seconds that seemed like an eternity! 73 - Dino KL0S > On Jul 3, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Roger Titmuss wrote: > > Hi everyone has anybody had any experience or knowledge of this companies > SATPACK1 consisting of a double loop for 2 and another for 70 on a boom, I > could get this array up to about 45 feet if that helps, it seems a bit > pricey but if it works it works. As you can tell I am a newbie and would be > grateful for any advice. > > > > Regards > > > > Roger From johnbrier at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 14:03:55 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 10:03:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 Antennas In-Reply-To: <15EDE9CF-344C-4EF3-BA0C-EF587A70375E@cox.net> References: <15EDE9CF-344C-4EF3-BA0C-EF587A70375E@cox.net> Message-ID: What problem did you have with the antenna? Is it safe to assume you're talking about the M2 SAT Pack? 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Dino Papas wrote: > When our club conducted a ARISS contact for a local middle school we had a problem with the main station on the yagi at the very last instant. We switched to the secondary station with the M2 eggbeater and we made the contact with no problem. Of course we had to use a defibrillator to get my heart started again during those crucial switchover seconds that seemed like an eternity! > > 73 - Dino KL0S > >> On Jul 3, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Roger Titmuss wrote: >> >> Hi everyone has anybody had any experience or knowledge of this companies >> SATPACK1 consisting of a double loop for 2 and another for 70 on a boom, I >> could get this array up to about 45 feet if that helps, it seems a bit >> pricey but if it works it works. As you can tell I am a newbie and would be >> grateful for any advice. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Roger > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Tue Jul 3 16:00:30 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:00:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 Antennas In-Reply-To: <000001d412cd$86862180$93926480$@com> References: <000001d412cd$86862180$93926480$@com> Message-ID: <004301d412e6$f7e783f0$e7b68bd0$@mindspring.com> Roger, The LEO-pack on an azimuth only rotor and tilted up 15 degrees or so will do a much, much better job for satellite use, at minimal extra cost. You can also purchase them from AMSAT at a discount. See https://www.amsat.org/product/m2-leo-pack-antenna-system/ 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Roger Titmuss Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 8:58 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 Antennas Hi everyone has anybody had any experience or knowledge of this companies SATPACK1 consisting of a double loop for 2 and another for 70 on a boom, I could get this array up to about 45 feet if that helps, it seems a bit pricey but if it works it works. As you can tell I am a newbie and would be grateful for any advice. Regards Roger _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 3 19:17:50 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 19:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks for the help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1023412246.2251004.1530645470987@mail.yahoo.com> "Could use the new box and hang the start condenser out board or build and outboard set of switches" Have you considered building one with an Arduino?? Pretty straight forward actually, made one for a Cornell Dublier Rotator, interfaces to SatPC32 etc., for totally slick automation. 73!? Umesh? K6VUG? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 10:45:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Tom Lubbers K8TL To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks for the help Message-ID: ??? <988163871.1791.1530542737900 at wamui-eagle.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks to all for putting me on the right track.? However step one was to EXTRACT ALL from the downloaded zip file. Then go to the set up program.? Every time I start the program a get a box ?OLE-feitler 8004503a,classID?A5584957-EF07-419c???..? But it seems to be running ok.? Changing computers can be a challenge.? 5400 control box developed 2 bad switches, no replacement available from Yeasu.? Considered new control box, no longer available!? Could use the new box and hang the start condenser out board or build and outboard set of switches.? Then I stopped at the Green Heron booth at Xenia.? Only that controller will not work with Windows XP, my last computer with RS232 built in.? So trying to get things up and running on a Windows 7 machine.? Also replacing the old KLM crossed yagis. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 10:05:08 +0000 From: media at skilabz.in To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Fly your Payload Free from India - International ??? Balloon Satellite Launch Challenge JULY 2018 Message-ID: <0ef706ef613018c1bf8c1e7a7c41e93d at skilabz.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Hi, The 1st FREE OF COST International Balloon ?Satellite? Launch CHALLENGE is open across the Globe for participants below 21 years of age. Leveraging the power of technology, the State of Rajasthan in India has become the ?Digitalization Hub of India?. 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Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Alan, Other shoe, please?? What happened to the world's prediction software (if, indeed, we even had any back then) when it rolled over?? What is expected this time? We survived Y2K, but did we learn anything from it? Greg? KO6TH Alan wrote: > Tom, > > It has in fact turned over once already. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > Sent from my Waring blender. > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a > < > < > <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > <> > <> Tom, > <> > <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day.? It will hit 99999 > <> on the 30th or so.? You can use the Preview function to find out exactly > <> when. > <> > <> 73, > <> > <> Alan > <> WA4SCA > <> > <> > <> <-----Original Message----- > <> <> <> <> > <> <> < > <> <> orbit > <> <> <> <> <> that > <> <> throw > <> <> <> < > <> <73 > <> < > <> <> <> < > <> < > <> < > <> <_______________________________________________ > <> <> <> <> <> AMSAT- > <> <> <> <> <> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:25:00 -0500 From: "Alan" To: "'AMSAT BB'" Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. Message-ID: <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="iso-8859-1" Greg, Fortunately this is not a TEOTWAWKI Y2K issue.? Unlike most of the other numbers in the Keps, the orbit count has nothing to do with predicting the orbit, and can be completely ignored.? Some programs do that.? Others compute backwards and forwards from the reference epoch and orbit number in the Keps they are using.? I am most familiar with SatPC32, and when working on prelaunch Keps recently, I found that if you ran it backwards in time before the launch, it will happily show negative numbers.? ;) The problem is that when the specification for the Keps we use was created, it only allowed 5 digits for the orbit count.? That seemed enough, and comes from Space Track that way.? So like an odometer it just rolls over.? In principle, software could look for that, and automatically compensate. I can't speak for all the software out there, but in most cases they will just roll over and keep on tracking. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Tom, <> <> It has in fact turned over once already. <> <> 73, <> <> Alan <> WA4SCA <> <> Sent from my Waring blender. <> <> <> <-----Original Message----- <> <> < <> <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a <> < <> < <> <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: <> <> <> <> Tom, <> <> <> <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day.? It will hit 99999 <> <> on the 30th or so.? You can use the Preview function to find out exactly <> <> when. <> <> <> <> 73, <> <> <> <> Alan <> <> WA4SCA <> <> <> <> <> <> <-----Original Message----- <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> < <> <> <> orbit <> <> <> <> <> <> that <> <> <> throw <> <> <> <> < <> <> <73 <> <> < <> <> <> <> < <> <> < <> <> < <> <> <_______________________________________________ <> <> <> <> <> <> AMSAT- <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:05:56 -0300 From: Pedro Converso To: APBIDDLE at mailaps.org Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi all, Nice idea to celebrate AO-7 200th orbit anniversary, our beloved grandfather bird merits it. Looks that 200k orbit will happen around August the 1st see: http://amsat.org.ar/ao7-200k.gif . http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=ao-7 account for orbits above 100k. We hams should be thankful to have AO-7 alive, duly recognizing those that made it possible . 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On 7/2/18, Alan wrote: > Greg, > > Fortunately this is not a TEOTWAWKI Y2K issue.? Unlike most of the other > numbers in the Keps, the orbit count has nothing to do with predicting the > orbit, and can be completely ignored.? Some programs do that.? Others > compute backwards and forwards from the reference epoch and orbit number in > the Keps they are using.? I am most familiar with SatPC32, and when working > on prelaunch Keps recently, I found that if you ran it backwards in time > before the launch, it will happily show negative numbers.? ;) > > The problem is that when the specification for the Keps we use was created, > it only allowed 5 digits for the orbit count.? That seemed enough, and > comes > from Space Track that way.? So like an odometer it just rolls over.? In > principle, software could look for that, and automatically compensate. > > I can't speak for all the software out there, but in most cases they will > just roll over and keep on tracking. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > > < > < > <(if, indeed, we even had any back then) when it rolled over?? What is > < > < > < > < > <> Tom, > <> > <> It has in fact turned over once already. > <> > <> 73, > <> > <> Alan > <> WA4SCA > <> > <> Sent from my Waring blender. > <> > <> > <> <-----Original Message----- > <> <> <> <> > <> <> < > <> <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a > <> <> <> < > <> <> < > <> <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > <> <> > <> <> Tom, > <> <> > <> <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day.? It will hit > 99999 > <> <> on the 30th or so.? You can use the Preview function to find out > exactly > <> <> when. > <> <> > <> <> 73, > <> <> > <> <> Alan > <> <> WA4SCA > <> <> > <> <> > <> <> <-----Original Message----- > <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> > <> <> <> <> < > <> <> in > <> <> orbit > <> <> count > <> <> we > <> <> <> then > this > <> <> <> <> that > <> <> to > <> <> throw > <> <> AO-7 > <> <> <> <> < > <> <> <73 > <> <> < > <> <> <> <> <> <> < > <> <> < > <> <> < > <> <> <_______________________________________________ > <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> views > of > <> <> AMSAT- > <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> > <> > <> _______________________________________________ > <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:01:59 -0400 From: "Daniel Schultz" To: Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 AMSAT Symposium Call for Papers Message-ID: <785wgBTa80672Set.1530558119 at web07.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is the first call for papers for the 2018 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and Space Symposium to be held on the weekend of November 2 - 4 at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible. The final copy must be submitted by October 15th for inclusion in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz at n8fgv(at)amsat.org 73, Dan Schultz? N8FGV ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:05:54 -0700 From: Richard Tejera To: John Brier , 'AMSAT' Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] I got VUCC! Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Congratulations, De K7TEJ, VUCC 217 Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On June 30, 2018, at 19:15, John Brier wrote: I haven't uploaded anywhere close to all my satellite contacts to Logbook of The World, but I uploaded enough to get 100 grids as of yesterday when WW8W confirmed our contact from 2018-06-17 on AO-91. He was in EN73. Thanks to everyone else who worked me. Clayton W5PFG got me the most grids at seven, and Gabe AL6D got me five, using almost as many callsigns! (NJ7H, NJ7H/VE3, NJ7H/HR9 and KM4RTS [I was too far from my QTH when I worked him in AK as AL6D]). Honorable mention to the rest of the folks that gave me more than one grid: WE4B, KM4LAO, WD9EWK, VE3HLS, KI4RO, KE0PBR, and AA5PK. Here is the full list: 7 W5PFG 3 WE4B 3 KM4LAO 2 WD9EWK 2 VE3HLS 2 NJ7H 2 KI4RO 2 KE0PBR 2 AA5PK 1 6Y5IDX 1 AA8CH 1 AA9LC 1 AB1OC 1 AC9E 1 AD0DX 1 AD0TM 1 AE5PH 1 AI6GS 1 FG8OJ 1 HP2VX 1 K0EKL 1 K0FFY 1 K0JM 1 K2MTS 1 K3RRR 1 K4FTP 1 K4KDR 1 K4LIX 1 K4RGK 1 K5IX 1 K8YSE 1 K9EI 1 KB2YSI 1 KB3GVC 1 KB6LTY 1 KC1EXK 1 KC4LE 1 KC9ELU 1 KD8ATF 1 KD9JUQ 1 KE4AL 1 KE8FZT 1 KG5GJT 1 KM4RTS 1 KM6NJL 1 KO4MA 1 N1JEZ 1 N3GS 1 N4SAX 1 N4UFO 1 N4YHC 1 N6UA/VE2 1 N7NEV 1 N8HM 1 N8MS 1 N9EAT 1 N9LQ 1 NA2AA 1 NB3T 1 NJ7H/HR9 1 NJ7H/VE3 1 NP4JV 1 TI2CDA 1 VA3NNA 1 VE3RCN 1 VE7CEW 1 W0DHB 1 W1GKT 1 W3ARD 1 W4DTA 1 W4FS 1 W4UOO 1 W7QL 1 W9EXP 1 WA5KBH 1 WB3CSY 1 WF7T 1 WN9Q 1 WU2M 1 WW8W 1 XE1SEW 1 XE1TD 1 XE2RV 1 XE3DX 73, John Brier KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 20:09:32 -0500 From: Jeff To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] I got VUCC! Message-ID: <6364D3BA-C76A-4236-8720-1D72A127A2F9 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii Glad I could help out! 73 de WE4B Jeff > > On June 30, 2018, at 19:15, John Brier wrote: > > I haven't uploaded anywhere close to all my satellite contacts to > Logbook of The World, but I uploaded enough to get 100 grids as of > yesterday when WW8W confirmed our contact from 2018-06-17 on AO-91. He > was in EN73. > > Thanks to everyone else who worked me. Clayton W5PFG got me the most > grids at seven, and Gabe AL6D got me five, using almost as many > callsigns! (NJ7H, NJ7H/VE3, NJ7H/HR9 and KM4RTS [I was too far from my > QTH when I worked him in AK as AL6D]). Honorable mention to the rest > of the folks that gave me more than one grid: WE4B, KM4LAO, WD9EWK, > VE3HLS, KI4RO, KE0PBR, and AA5PK. > > Here is the full list: > > 7 W5PFG > 3 WE4B > 3 KM4LAO > 2 WD9EWK > 2 VE3HLS > 2 NJ7H > 2 KI4RO > 2 KE0PBR > 2 AA5PK > 1 6Y5IDX > 1 AA8CH > 1 AA9LC > 1 AB1OC > 1 AC9E > 1 AD0DX > 1 AD0TM > 1 AE5PH > 1 AI6GS > 1 FG8OJ > 1 HP2VX > 1 K0EKL > 1 K0FFY > 1 K0JM > 1 K2MTS > 1 K3RRR > 1 K4FTP > 1 K4KDR > 1 K4LIX > 1 K4RGK > 1 K5IX > 1 K8YSE > 1 K9EI > 1 KB2YSI > 1 KB3GVC > 1 KB6LTY > 1 KC1EXK > 1 KC4LE > 1 KC9ELU > 1 KD8ATF > 1 KD9JUQ > 1 KE4AL > 1 KE8FZT > 1 KG5GJT > 1 KM4RTS > 1 KM6NJL > 1 KO4MA > 1 N1JEZ > 1 N3GS > 1 N4SAX > 1 N4UFO > 1 N4YHC > 1 N6UA/VE2 > 1 N7NEV > 1 N8HM > 1 N8MS > 1 N9EAT > 1 N9LQ > 1 NA2AA > 1 NB3T > 1 NJ7H/HR9 > 1 NJ7H/VE3 > 1 NP4JV > 1 TI2CDA > 1 VA3NNA > 1 VE3RCN > 1 VE7CEW > 1 W0DHB > 1 W1GKT > 1 W3ARD > 1 W4DTA > 1 W4FS > 1 W4UOO > 1 W7QL > 1 W9EXP > 1 WA5KBH > 1 WB3CSY > 1 WF7T > 1 WN9Q > 1 WU2M > 1 WW8W > 1 XE1SEW > 1 XE1TD > 1 XE2RV > 1 XE3DX > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 22:03:28 -0400 From: John Brier To: Jeff , Richard Tejera Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] I got VUCC! Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks Rick and Jeff! 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Jeff wrote: > Glad I could help out! > > 73 de WE4B > Jeff > >> >> On June 30, 2018, at 19:15, John Brier wrote: >> >> I haven't uploaded anywhere close to all my satellite contacts to >> Logbook of The World, but I uploaded enough to get 100 grids as of >> yesterday when WW8W confirmed our contact from 2018-06-17 on AO-91. He >> was in EN73. >> >> Thanks to everyone else who worked me. Clayton W5PFG got me the most >> grids at seven, and Gabe AL6D got me five, using almost as many >> callsigns! (NJ7H, NJ7H/VE3, NJ7H/HR9 and KM4RTS [I was too far from my >> QTH when I worked him in AK as AL6D]). Honorable mention to the rest >> of the folks that gave me more than one grid: WE4B, KM4LAO, WD9EWK, >> VE3HLS, KI4RO, KE0PBR, and AA5PK. >> >> Here is the full list: >> >> 7 W5PFG >> 3 WE4B >> 3 KM4LAO >> 2 WD9EWK >> 2 VE3HLS >> 2 NJ7H >> 2 KI4RO >> 2 KE0PBR >> 2 AA5PK >> 1 6Y5IDX >> 1 AA8CH >> 1 AA9LC >> 1 AB1OC >> 1 AC9E >> 1 AD0DX >> 1 AD0TM >> 1 AE5PH >> 1 AI6GS >> 1 FG8OJ >> 1 HP2VX >> 1 K0EKL >> 1 K0FFY >> 1 K0JM >> 1 K2MTS >> 1 K3RRR >> 1 K4FTP >> 1 K4KDR >> 1 K4LIX >> 1 K4RGK >> 1 K5IX >> 1 K8YSE >> 1 K9EI >> 1 KB2YSI >> 1 KB3GVC >> 1 KB6LTY >> 1 KC1EXK >> 1 KC4LE >> 1 KC9ELU >> 1 KD8ATF >> 1 KD9JUQ >> 1 KE4AL >> 1 KE8FZT >> 1 KG5GJT >> 1 KM4RTS >> 1 KM6NJL >> 1 KO4MA >> 1 N1JEZ >> 1 N3GS >> 1 N4SAX >> 1 N4UFO >> 1 N4YHC >> 1 N6UA/VE2 >> 1 N7NEV >> 1 N8HM >> 1 N8MS >> 1 N9EAT >> 1 N9LQ >> 1 NA2AA >> 1 NB3T >> 1 NJ7H/HR9 >> 1 NJ7H/VE3 >> 1 NP4JV >> 1 TI2CDA >> 1 VA3NNA >> 1 VE3RCN >> 1 VE7CEW >> 1 W0DHB >> 1 W1GKT >> 1 W3ARD >> 1 W4DTA >> 1 W4FS >> 1 W4UOO >> 1 W7QL >> 1 W9EXP >> 1 WA5KBH >> 1 WB3CSY >> 1 WF7T >> 1 WN9Q >> 1 WU2M >> 1 WW8W >> 1 XE1SEW >> 1 XE1TD >> 1 XE2RV >> 1 XE3DX >> >> 73, John Brier KG4AKV >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:58:23 +0100 From: "Roger Titmuss" To: Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 Antennas Message-ID: <000001d412cd$86862180$93926480$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone has anybody had any experience or knowledge of this companies SATPACK1 consisting of a double loop for 2 and another for 70 on a boom, I could get this array up to about 45 feet if that helps, it seems a bit pricey but if it works it works. As you can tell I am a newbie and would be grateful for any advice. Regards Roger? ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 09:58:18 -0400 From: Dino Papas To: AMSAT-BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] M2 Antennas Message-ID: <15EDE9CF-344C-4EF3-BA0C-EF587A70375E at cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii When our club conducted a ARISS contact for a local middle school we had a problem with the main station on the yagi at the very last instant.? We switched to the secondary station with the M2 eggbeater and we made the contact with no problem.? Of course we had to use a defibrillator to get my heart started again during those crucial switchover seconds that seemed like an eternity! 73 - Dino KL0S > On Jul 3, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Roger Titmuss wrote: > > Hi everyone has anybody had any experience or knowledge of this companies > SATPACK1 consisting of a double loop for 2 and another for 70 on a boom, I > could get this array up to about 45 feet if that helps, it seems a bit > pricey but if it works it works. As you can tell I am a newbie and would be > grateful for any advice. > > > > Regards > > > > Roger? ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.? Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ------------------------------ End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 234 ***************************************** From OLDBIKER at sky.com Tue Jul 3 20:03:25 2018 From: OLDBIKER at sky.com (Roger Titmuss) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:03:25 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Duplexer Message-ID: <000001d41308$e7236670$b56a3350$@com> Hi again guys thanks for the last answers you sent now, can I use a Duplexer on a rig with separate 2m and 70cms inputs with 60 dB isolation. I will be using a log periodic antenna. Thanks Roger From aa5uk at yahoo.com Tue Jul 3 21:18:24 2018 From: aa5uk at yahoo.com (Adrian Engele) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Duplexer In-Reply-To: <000001d41308$e7236670$b56a3350$@com> References: <000001d41308$e7236670$b56a3350$@com> Message-ID: <1585729544.2369058.1530652704385@mail.yahoo.com> Yes. Recommend the mfj-916 over the diamond duplexer. QST had a comparison review a few years back.? 73, Adrian AA5UK Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Roger Titmuss wrote: Hi again guys thanks for the last answers you sent now, can I use a Duplexer on a rig with separate 2m and 70cms inputs with 60 dB isolation. I will be using a log periodic antenna. Thanks Roger _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Tue Jul 3 23:25:17 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 19:25:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-03 22:00 UTC Message-ID: <1646276e973-c94-55ac@webjas-vae170.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-03 22:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL, direct via W9DWJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact was successful: Mon 2018-07-02 15:35:42 UTC 33 deg (***) ? Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium, Bonn, Germany, direct via DL?IL The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Contact was successful: Tue 2018-07-03 08:32:16 UTC 52 deg (***) ? Space Port Area Conference for Educators (SPACE), Kennedy Space Center, FL (CASIS#4), telebridge via W6SRJ (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be TBD The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU (***) Contact is a go for: Fri 2018-07-13 14:00:22 UTC 42 deg (***) ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS Russia SSTV transmissions are scheduled to start tomorrow June 29, 2018 at 09:00 UTC and end on July 1, 2018 at 18:30 UTC. The images will be downlinked at 145.80 MHz using the SSTV mode PD-120. Received images can be viewed and posted at www.spaceflightsoftware.com/ARISS_SSTV/. ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-03 22:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1236. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1184. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-28 19:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 3 23:50:38 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Duplexer In-Reply-To: <000001d41308$e7236670$b56a3350$@com> References: <000001d41308$e7236670$b56a3350$@com> Message-ID: <1565326280.2367298.1530661838589@mail.yahoo.com> Works like a charm with V/U birds like AO-91, but keep getting harmonic overload (on 70cm) in U/V mode. Just my 2c, your experience may vary.? 73! Umesh k6vug On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 1:05:47 PM PDT, Roger Titmuss wrote: Hi again guys thanks for the last answers you sent now, can I use a Duplexer on a rig with separate 2m and 70cms inputs with 60 dB isolation. I will be using a log periodic antenna. Thanks Roger From kb2ysi at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 00:22:11 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:22:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Duplexer In-Reply-To: <1565326280.2367298.1530661838589@mail.yahoo.com> References: <000001d41308$e7236670$b56a3350$@com> <1565326280.2367298.1530661838589@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I use an MFJ-916B with an Arrow and 2 radios, and it is night and day difference not fighting desensitization, including on SO-50. 73, Don KB2YSI On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 19:51 k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Works like a charm with V/U birds like AO-91, but keep getting harmonic > overload (on 70cm) in U/V mode. > Just my 2c, your experience may vary. > > 73! > Umesh > k6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 1:05:47 PM PDT, Roger Titmuss < > OLDBIKER at sky.com> wrote: > > Hi again guys thanks for the last answers you sent now, can I use a > Duplexer > on a rig with separate 2m and 70cms inputs with 60 dB isolation. I will be > using a log periodic antenna. > > Thanks > > Roger > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 00:24:31 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:24:31 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I ran a simulation on my cell phone app HamSat. I know it isn?t perfect. I found that orbits rolled over from 99999 to 100000 at 04:13:28 EDT (091228 UTC). The resultant map shows it over Mongolia. So, I?m just letting my curiosity run rampant and thinking out loud. Considering that it?s period has changed over time, what constitutes an orbit? How does the software account for that? 73 EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Pedro Converso wrote: > > Hi all, > > Nice idea to celebrate AO-7 200th orbit anniversary, our beloved > grandfather bird merits it. > > Looks that 200k orbit will happen around August the 1st see: > http://amsat.org.ar/ao7-200k.gif . > > http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=ao-7 account for orbits above 100k. > > We hams should be thankful to have AO-7 alive, duly recognizing those > that made it possible . > > 73, LU7ABF, Pedro > >> On 7/2/18, Alan wrote: >> Greg, >> >> Fortunately this is not a TEOTWAWKI Y2K issue. Unlike most of the other >> numbers in the Keps, the orbit count has nothing to do with predicting the >> orbit, and can be completely ignored. Some programs do that. Others >> compute backwards and forwards from the reference epoch and orbit number in >> the Keps they are using. I am most familiar with SatPC32, and when working >> on prelaunch Keps recently, I found that if you ran it backwards in time >> before the launch, it will happily show negative numbers. ;) >> >> The problem is that when the specification for the Keps we use was created, >> it only allowed 5 digits for the orbit count. That seemed enough, and >> comes >> from Space Track that way. So like an odometer it just rolls over. In >> principle, software could look for that, and automatically compensate. >> >> I can't speak for all the software out there, but in most cases they will >> just roll over and keep on tracking. >> >> 73, >> >> Alan >> WA4SCA >> >> >> >> >> <-----Original Message----- >> > > >> >> > < >> > < >> > <(if, indeed, we even had any back then) when it rolled over? What is >> > < >> > < >> > < >> < >> > <> Tom, >> <> >> <> It has in fact turned over once already. >> <> >> <> 73, >> <> >> <> Alan >> <> WA4SCA >> <> >> <> Sent from my Waring blender. >> <> >> <> >> <> <-----Original Message----- >> <> > <> > <> > <> >> <> > <> < >> <> <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a >> <> > > <> > <> < >> <> > <> < >> <> <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: >> <> <> >> <> <> Tom, >> <> <> >> <> <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit >> 99999 >> <> <> on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out >> exactly >> <> <> when. >> <> <> >> <> <> 73, >> <> <> >> <> <> Alan >> <> <> WA4SCA >> <> <> >> <> <> >> <> <> <-----Original Message----- >> <> <> > <> <> > <> <> > <> <> >> <> <> > <> <> < >> <> <> > in >> <> <> orbit >> <> <> > count >> > <> <> > we >> <> > <> <> > then >> this >> <> <> > > <> <> that >> <> <> > to >> <> <> throw >> <> <> > AO-7 >> <> <> > <> <> < >> <> <> <73 >> <> <> < >> <> <> > <> <> > <> <> < >> <> <> < >> <> <> < >> <> <> <_______________________________________________ >> <> <> > <> > <> <> > <> > <> <> > <> <> > views >> of >> <> <> AMSAT- >> <> <> > <> <> > <> <> > <> <> > > <> <> >> <> >> <> _______________________________________________ >> <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> > <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> > <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> > <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hobergenix at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 01:32:46 2018 From: hobergenix at gmail.com (Mike Hoblinski) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:32:46 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question Message-ID: I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. Mike N6IMF From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 4 01:51:27 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 01:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1799437847.2408444.1530669087477@mail.yahoo.com> Here is something discussion about it... https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space Umeshk6vug On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski wrote: I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years? celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. Mike N6IMF From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 01:57:04 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:57:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <1799437847.2408444.1530669087477@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1799437847.2408444.1530669087477@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Link isn't working. Here is a different one https://www.quora.com/Can-astronauts-see-fireworks-from-space 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 21:52 k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Here is something discussion about it... > > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space > Umeshk6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski < > hobergenix at gmail.com> wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across > the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station > can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From garnere at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 22:31:49 2018 From: garnere at gmail.com (Eric Garner) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 15:31:49 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu g5400B longevity in stroage Message-ID: I acquired a G5400 az/el rotator that looks to be in pristine condition, apart from some rubber rot. I don't think it's ever been mounted outside in the weather. Since this has been in storage for probably at least 20 years, what should be done with it to put it into service? does it need to be pulled apart and re-greased? can I just replace the rotted rubber parts and call it good? pictures here: http://www.pushingbubbles.com/radio-stuff/new-rotator/ thanks -Eric KI7LTT -- --Eric _________________________________________ Eric Garner From hugois at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 00:43:25 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 17:43:25 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 235 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EFBBFD0-876C-4C62-A942-687CB8FAADDC@gmail.com> The mfj-916 was recommended to me here. I got it almost two weeks ago and I am very happy with it. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > On Jul 3, 2018, at 16:25, amsat-bb-request at amsat.org wrote: > > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:18:24 +0000 (UTC) > From: Adrian Engele > To: "OLDBIKER at sky.com" , "amsat-bb at amsat.org" > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Duplexer > Message-ID: <1585729544.2369058.1530652704385 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Yes. Recommend the mfj-916 over the diamond duplexer. QST had a comparison review a few years back.? > 73, Adrian AA5UK > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Roger Titmuss wrote: Hi again guys thanks for the last answers you sent now, can I use a Duplexer > on a rig with separate 2m and 70cms inputs with 60 dB isolation. I will be > using a log periodic antenna. > > > > Thanks From k7trkradio at charter.net Wed Jul 4 01:54:45 2018 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted Krempa) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:54:45 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <1799437847.2408444.1530669087477@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1799437847.2408444.1530669087477@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01d41339$fc2fed50$f48fc7f0$@charter.net> Good article and response, Umesh !! Happy Independence Day to all !! 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question Here is something discussion about it... https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space Umeshk6vug On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski wrote: I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. Mike N6IMF _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hugois at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 01:57:58 2018 From: hugois at gmail.com (Hugo Dominguez, Jr.) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:57:58 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject) Message-ID: Does anyone work CO-55 CO-57 or CO-58 ? I tried one last week and heard nothing. I?m looking for additional satellites I can work on FM either voice or APRS, besides SO-50, AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92. ? Hugo Dominguez, Jr. From kb2ysi at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 03:40:02 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:40:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?As far as I know, you have all of the currently operating FM satellites listed. Here is a great page to get all of the different types: https://www.amsat.org/two-way-satellites/ On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:06 PM Hugo Dominguez, Jr. wrote: > Does anyone work CO-55 CO-57 or CO-58 ? I tried one last week and heard > nothing. I?m looking for additional satellites I can work on FM either > voice or APRS, besides SO-50, AO-85, AO-91 and AO-92. > > ? > Hugo Dominguez, Jr. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- 73, Don KB2YSI https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi From kb2ysi at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 03:52:43 2018 From: kb2ysi at gmail.com (Don KB2YSI) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 23:52:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Rovering I-81 07/04-07/07, quick vacation style Message-ID: I will be traveling from my home grid (FN22) down I-81 ending in EM85, the path takes me through: FN21 - 07/04 FN10 - 07/04 FM19 - 07/04-05 - overnight stop FM09 - 07/05 FM08 - 07/05 FM07 - 07/05 EM97 - 07/05 EM96 - 07/05 EM86 - 07/05 EM85 - 07/05 ?While some of those are not rare by any means, maybe all of them are common, I will be trying to be on a pass as many ?times as I can. I will be most likely FM only, but I may attempt a linear if it is the only thing that is around. The return trip will be 07/07 and will be from EM85 back to FN22. ?I will attempt to post any passes I will be attempting on https://twitter.com/KB2YSI ?I hope to work people who need the grids!? ? ? 73,? -- Don KB2YSI https://www.hamqth.com/kb2ysi From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 4 04:01:52 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 04:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <000a01d41339$fc2fed50$f48fc7f0$@charter.net> References: <1799437847.2408444.1530669087477@mail.yahoo.com> <000a01d41339$fc2fed50$f48fc7f0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <1621048225.2443980.1530676912719@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there !?? On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew.? Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question.? If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor.? There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page.? Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions.? Happy 4th !! Umesh k6vug On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa wrote: Good article and response, Umesh !! Happy Independence Day to all !! 73, Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question Here is something discussion about it... https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space Umeshk6vug ? ? On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski wrote:? I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe during New Years? celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. Mike N6IMF ? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From paul at ukdx.org.uk Wed Jul 4 07:53:54 2018 From: paul at ukdx.org.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 08:53:54 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu g5400B longevity in stroage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9bb75573-3f9b-7ab9-fda6-bcaceafb007d@ukdx.org.uk> Eric, having just brought a 5400 elevation rotator back into service I would say you should do the following. Open it up, add anti seize compound to all the nuts and screws. Replace both sets of ball bearings with stainless steel ones. I was advised they are 5/16" not 8MM and have had no issues with imperial sized ones, I chose to leave the bearing retainers in place. Regrease everything and wipe all the cog surfaces with grease, the one on my position pot was badly corroded. Junk the eight cross head bolts that hold the casing together and replace with stainless socket head bolts. Use a liquid gasket when you stick the two halves back together and consider enlarging the drain hole in the case. This may seem a lot of work for something that is effectively new but it will save a lot more grief in the long run. The azimuth rotators seem to fare a little better but again I would replace any external bolts with stainless, ditto the bearings and regrease/anti seize everything else. It's a convenient time to say thanks to everyone who offered advice and tips when I renovated mine. As I took some photos through the process I decided to put them together in a small web page, hope it's OK to post it. http://www.ukdx.org.uk/tv/rotator.htm 73 Paul On 03/07/2018 23:31, Eric Garner wrote: > I acquired a G5400 az/el rotator that looks to be in pristine condition, > apart from some rubber rot. I don't think it's ever been mounted outside in > the weather. Since this has been in storage for probably at least 20 years, > what should be done with it to put it into service? does it need to be > pulled apart and re-greased? can I just replace the rotted rubber parts and > call it good? > > > pictures here: > > http://www.pushingbubbles.com/radio-stuff/new-rotator/ > > > thanks > > -Eric KI7LTT From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 11:28:56 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 07:28:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <1621048225.2443980.1530676912719@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1799437847.2408444.1530669087477@mail.yahoo.com> <000a01d41339$fc2fed50$f48fc7f0$@charter.net> <1621048225.2443980.1530676912719@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn?t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what?s it like or how?s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k9jkm at comcast.net Wed Jul 4 13:08:11 2018 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 08:08:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <1621048225.2443980.1530676912719@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1799437847.2408444.1530669087477@mail.yahoo.com> <000a01d41339$fc2fed50$f48fc7f0$@charter.net> <1621048225.2443980.1530676912719@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901d41398$0f8729a0$2e957ce0$@net> > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the > website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and > their answers from the ISS crew. Yeah, this is a great idea! It would be quite an archive. Let me know when you're ready to proceed and I can hook you up with the folks who can get you a login to post your new web pages. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From wa7dxz at aol.com Wed Jul 4 15:42:46 2018 From: wa7dxz at aol.com (wa7dxz) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 08:42:46 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Roving questions Message-ID: <20180704154252.6FC0686CF@lansing182.amsat.org> I plan to go to DM 54 soon, a semi rare grid for satellites How do I prove I was there?Take a picture of me at some site in the grid, or, if I tell amsat I am going there, they believe me?BobWa7dxzDm33 Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jul 4 16:42:06 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:42:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Roving questions In-Reply-To: <20180704154252.6FC0686CF@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20180704154252.6FC0686CF@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: Bob, Documentation is only required if you operate from a grid line or corner. Otherwise, it's all on the honor system. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:42 AM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > I plan to go to DM 54 soon, a semi rare grid for satellites > How do I prove I was there?Take a picture of me at some site in the grid, > or, if I tell amsat I am going there, they believe me?BobWa7dxzDm33 > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aj9n at aol.com Wed Jul 4 16:48:38 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:48:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> Hi all, ? I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff.? So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies.? For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school.? Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't.? For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. ? I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that.? Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites.? I don't even remember when I was on HF last. ? I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name.? Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked.? As has been stated by someone, not all get answered.? And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists.? Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. ? My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. ? Comments? ? 73, Charlie Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors ? ? In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm at gmail.com writes: ? Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn?t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what?s it like or how?s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 17:16:02 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 13:16:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> References: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: I'm no expert but it seems like this would be a good candidate for a software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression just to find the amount of questions that mentioned "bathroom" or other related words :-) 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM, aj9n--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi all, > > I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. > > I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last. > > I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. > > My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. > > Comments? > > 73, > Charlie Sufana AJ9N > One of the ARISS mentors > > > In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm at gmail.com writes: > > > Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn?t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what?s it like or how?s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 17:47:11 2018 From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:47:11 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: References: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <5b3d081f.1c69fb81.6b654.f5a0@mx.google.com> > software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? > Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular > expression ... Or, we could keep making and launching satellites instead ... -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From spatrickfay at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 17:50:34 2018 From: spatrickfay at gmail.com (sean fay) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:50:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <5b3d081f.1c69fb81.6b654.f5a0@mx.google.com> References: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> <5b3d081f.1c69fb81.6b654.f5a0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I don't feel like those two things are mutually exclusive as your volunteer pool has varied skills to contribute On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 12:47 PM JoAnne K9JKM wrote: > > software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? > > Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular > > expression ... > > Or, we could keep making and launching satellites instead ... > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From bryan at kl7cn.net Wed Jul 4 17:52:38 2018 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:52:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Roving questions In-Reply-To: References: <20180704154252.6FC0686CF@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: As Paul says, it's on the honor system. However, it is not a bad protocol to take a picture of yourself or your location with the GPS location-stamping enabled in your phone camera. There was a time when I went to a relatively exotic location on a cruise ship and operated from the land ashore of the boat. A picture settled arguments between the suspicious and the pedantic for Satellite DXCC credit for that operation. -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > On Jul 4, 2018, at 09:42, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > Bob, > > Documentation is only required if you operate from a grid line or corner. > Otherwise, it's all on the honor system. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:42 AM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> >> >> I plan to go to DM 54 soon, a semi rare grid for satellites >> How do I prove I was there?Take a picture of me at some site in the grid, >> or, if I tell amsat I am going there, they believe me?BobWa7dxzDm33 >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mivanci at libero.it Wed Jul 4 17:20:22 2018 From: mivanci at libero.it (Mic) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:20:22 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question Message-ID: <8xaki83knljqhugpnw6yiyxn.1530724822934@email.android.com> Hello, your is an enormous work. I'm a teacher, I had two ariss contacts and I really love this program. Have mentors considered to ask schools to give ARISS a file with the answers? Every school have a registration and if any coordinatinating teacher does this work, it could be posted on ARISS website to share. I'm here if you ask me I'll send mine. Thank you for what you do! Micol Il 04/lug/2018 18:48 aj9n--- via AMSAT-BB ha scritto: > > Hi all, > ? > I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff.? So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies.? For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school.? Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't.? For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. > ? > I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that.? Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites.? I don't even remember when I was on HF last. > ? > I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name.? Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked.? As has been stated by someone, not all get answered.? And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists.? Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. > ? > My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. > ? > Comments? > ? > 73, > Charlie Sufana AJ9N > One of the ARISS mentors > ? > ? > In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm at gmail.com writes: > > ? > Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn?t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what?s it like or how?s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about From mivanci at libero.it Wed Jul 4 17:28:07 2018 From: mivanci at libero.it (Mic) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:28:07 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question Message-ID: About fireworks: during first ARISS contact in mission Horizon, last week, Gerst was asked about fireworks at 31.12 (question #6). A German friend transladed for me: Alex never went on ISS during last eve night, but when he flies over Italy in summer he can see fireworks in touristic areas. Il 04/lug/2018 03:57 John Brier ha scritto: > > Link isn't working. Here is a different one > > https://www.quora.com/Can-astronauts-see-fireworks-from-space > > 73, John Brier KG4AKV > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 21:52 k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: > > >? Here is something discussion about it... > > > > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space > > Umeshk6vug > > > > > > > > > >???? On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski < > > hobergenix at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >? I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across > > the USA and maybe > > during New Years? celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station > > can see any indication of fireworks. > > > > Mike > > N6IMF > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mivanci at libero.it Wed Jul 4 17:51:05 2018 From: mivanci at libero.it (Mic) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:51:05 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question Message-ID: Not explained good- I intended a file with a trascription of the answers, (not a file with registration) Micol Il 04/lug/2018 18:48 aj9n--- via AMSAT-BB ha scritto: > > Hi all, > ? > I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff.? So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies.? For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school.? Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't.? For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. > ? > I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that.? Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites.? I don't even remember when I was on HF last. > ? > I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name.? Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked.? As has been stated by someone, not all get answered.? And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists.? Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. > ? > My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. > ? > Comments? > ? > 73, > Charlie Sufana AJ9N > One of the ARISS mentors > ? > ? > In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm at gmail.com writes: > > ? > Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn?t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what?s it like or how?s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about From jhill_81 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 4 18:39:19 2018 From: jhill_81 at yahoo.com (Mr B r a d) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 18:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] working packet sats References: <491463940.2771075.1530729559434.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <491463940.2771075.1530729559434@mail.yahoo.com> ?I have played with no-84 psat digi , i seem to hit it sometimes but really hard to hear it. and NEVER decode my packets repeated...seems like it digi's ?so fast i dont recover fast enough to hear them,,,?perhaps ssb 2m preamp relay delay is a factor? do i need to hard wire the preamp relay to the rig ( ts2000) to over this delay ?thxbrad ko6kL please delete the old text below your answer .... From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jul 4 18:41:48 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:41:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: References: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> <5b3d081f.1c69fb81.6b654.f5a0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately our volunteer pool is quite small. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 13:51 sean fay wrote: > I don't feel like those two things are mutually exclusive as your volunteer > pool has varied skills to contribute > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 12:47 PM JoAnne K9JKM wrote: > > > > software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? > > > Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular > > > expression ... > > > > Or, we could keep making and launching satellites instead ... > > > > -- > > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > > k9jkm at amsat.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tjschuessler at verizon.net Wed Jul 4 18:46:30 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 13:46:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 Message-ID: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> I was wanting to describe to some folks I am doing a satellite demonstration for next week, about how some satellites have stable sun-synchronous orbits while others process earlier each day. The old DOS program, InstantTrack, that most likely will not work under the Windows 10/64 bit world had a nice display of this behavior, Are there any recommendations for a more modern application that will do the same type of thing? If you are not familiar with what I am talking about, look at page SO-3 in the current "Getting Started." book from AMSAT (As well as on earlier pages) to see what I am looking for. A web search shows that it should be in the AMSAT software archives but the page link for that particular software is broken. It is a nice planning utility, especially for birds that do change times each day. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 19:02:45 2018 From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:02:45 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 In-Reply-To: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> References: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5b3d19d5.1c69fb81.7a133.a9f2@mx.google.com> Hi Tom, > InstantTrack, that most likely will not work under > the Windows 10/64 bit world There was a discussion on the QRZ satellite forum a couple of weeks ago involving a method to get the DOS based STSPlus running on Win10. You'll find instructions how to install DOSBox ... once that is installed perhaps you can perhaps run InstantTrack. https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/short-guide-on-how-to-install-stspl us-on-a-modern-computer.617861/ or try http://tinyurl.com/QRZ-Forum-DosBox if the long URL got wiped out by the mailer. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 19:03:22 2018 From: milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com (Milen KG2C) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 15:03:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 In-Reply-To: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> References: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: If you have InstantTrack and it worked for your needs, you could try running it in DOSBox. It's a free DOS emulator. I recently managed to get STSPlus working in DOSBox but I don't have an InstantTrack license or the files for it. Best wishes, Milen KG2C On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 2:46 PM, wrote: > I was wanting to describe to some folks I am doing a satellite > demonstration > for next week, about how some satellites have stable sun-synchronous orbits > while others process earlier each day. The old DOS program, InstantTrack, > that most likely will not work under the Windows 10/64 bit world had a nice > display of this behavior, Are there any recommendations for a more modern > application that will do the same type of thing? If you are not familiar > with what I am talking about, look at page SO-3 in the current "Getting > Started." book from AMSAT (As well as on earlier pages) to see what I am > looking for. A web search shows that it should be in the AMSAT software > archives but the page link for that particular software is broken. It is a > nice planning utility, especially for birds that do change times each day. > > > Tom Schuessler, N5HYP > EM12ms > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 19:09:56 2018 From: milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com (Milen KG2C) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 15:09:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 In-Reply-To: <5b3d19d5.1c69fb81.7a133.a9f2@mx.google.com> References: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> <5b3d19d5.1c69fb81.7a133.a9f2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: In another thread on QRZ Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK mentions that he also got InstantTrack running in DOSBox. The link for that one is: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/farewell-sts-plus.617552/page-2 On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 3:02 PM, JoAnne K9JKM wrote: > Hi Tom, > > > InstantTrack, that most likely will not work under > > the Windows 10/64 bit world > > There was a discussion on the QRZ satellite forum a couple of weeks ago > involving a method to get the DOS based STSPlus running on Win10. You'll > find instructions how to install DOSBox ... once that is installed perhaps > you can perhaps run InstantTrack. > > https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/short-guide-on- > how-to-install-stspl > us-on-a-modern-computer.617861/ > > or try http://tinyurl.com/QRZ-Forum-DosBox if the long URL got wiped out > by > the mailer. > > -- > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > k9jkm at amsat.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jul 4 19:21:34 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 19:21:34 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 In-Reply-To: References: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> <5b3d19d5.1c69fb81.7a133.a9f2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi! Yes, I have been running 3 different DOS-based tracking programs (InstantTrack, STS Plus, PREDICT) in DOSBox running on a 64-bit Windows 7 laptop, 32- and 64-bit Windows 10 laptops, and a 64-bit Linux (Fedora 28) laptop. I had purchased InstantTrack many years ago, had PREDICT on the Win7 laptop, and with the recent QRZ discussions decided to try STS Plus. All seem to work fine, and with updated keps are just as accurate as the more modern programs like SatPC32 and Gpredict I also use. Once I had my folder/directory set up for DOSBox, I copied it off, and can put that on other systems running DOSBox. DOSBox appears to report its version as 5.00, if that matters for programs you may want to run in that environment. BTW InstantTrack appears to remain available for purchase, but not from AMSAT anymore. InstantTrack's web page is: http://mustbeart.com/software/it/index.html and the link for purchasing it: http://www.swreg.org/com/storefront/47805/product/478051 I had version 1.50, made a copy of that installation, and applied the version 1.55 beta update. Both the original 1.50 install and the upgraded 1.55 install work fine in DOSBox. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:09 PM, Milen KG2C < milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com> wrote: > In another thread on QRZ Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK mentions that he also got > InstantTrack running in DOSBox. > The link for that one is: > https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/farewell-sts-plus.617552/page-2 > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 3:02 PM, JoAnne K9JKM > wrote: > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > InstantTrack, that most likely will not work under > > > the Windows 10/64 bit world > > > > There was a discussion on the QRZ satellite forum a couple of weeks ago > > involving a method to get the DOS based STSPlus running on Win10. You'll > > find instructions how to install DOSBox ... once that is installed > perhaps > > you can perhaps run InstantTrack. > > > > https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/short-guide-on- > > how-to-install-stspl > > us-on-a-modern-computer.617861/ > > > > or try http://tinyurl.com/QRZ-Forum-DosBox if the long URL got wiped out > > by > > the mailer. > > > > -- > > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM > > k9jkm at amsat.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Wed Jul 4 19:23:21 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 19:23:21 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] working packet sats In-Reply-To: <491463940.2771075.1530729559434@mail.yahoo.com> References: <491463940.2771075.1530729559434.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <491463940.2771075.1530729559434@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Brad, Compared to the ISS and even FalconSat-3, NO-84's digipeater is a weaker signal. It transmits on 145.825 MHz at only 350mw: http://aprs.org/psat.html NO-84 can be tough to hear, and sometimes packets you can hear won't be decoded by radios/TNCs/software. With either of my Kenwood HTs (TH-D72, TH-D74) and Elk log periodic, I can adjust my antenna so I can do a good job working those passes. It worked well during Field Day, as long as I paid attention to the orientation of my antenna (a bit of twisting initially, then no problems for the rest of those passes). 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 6:39 PM, Mr B r a d via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I have played with no-84 psat digi , i seem to hit it sometimes but > really hard to hear it. > and NEVER decode my packets repeated...seems like it digi's so fast i > dont recover fast enough to hear them,,, perhaps ssb 2m preamp relay delay > is a factor? > do i need to hard wire the preamp relay to the rig ( ts2000) to over this > delay ?thxbrad ko6kL > From tjschuessler at verizon.net Wed Jul 4 19:25:47 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:25:47 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 In-Reply-To: References: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <00b501d413cc$d05e15b0$711a4110$@verizon.net> Thanks all. I will say that the pages for the InstantTrack software really present no valid link that I can see (Although I will admit to not seeing too good to download anything). I did know about DOSBox so reinstalled it on this new computer. Since InstaantTrack is a DOS program and thus probably lives in one single folder, can someone .ZIP it and send it to me off list? From: va7ewk at gmail.com On Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 2:02 PM To: Tom Schuessler N5HYP Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 Hi Tom! I ? know what you're describing from InstantTrack. Not sure SatPC32 does anything like that, or for that matter other programs. All is not lost, should you want to still run InstantTrack... Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK From ka3hdo at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 20:01:52 2018 From: ka3hdo at gmail.com (ka3hdo at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 16:01:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question Message-ID: <031e01d413d1$da534590$8ef9d0b0$@gmail.com> All, Great ideas! While we have not publicized it, ARISS already has something in the works on this. We hope to make this public in the near future. Thanks to all for your ideas and suggestions! Also, don't forget we have a big fundraising initiative underway to improve the radios systems on ISS. For more details, go to the donate button on the ARISS web site: www.ariss.org . (You don't have to donate to see what we are talking about. 73, Frank KA3HDO -------------------------------------------- Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO ISS Ham Radio Program Manager & PI ARISS International Chair AMSAT V.P. for Human Spaceflight Programs e-mail: ka3hdo at gmail.com NASA e-mail: Frank.Bauer at nasa.gov Cell Phone: 301-873-0890 Work Phone: 301-804-0173 About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. >>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question >>Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there !?? >>On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked >>and their answers from the ISS crew.? Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member >>answering the question.? If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor.? There would be no >>need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page.? Maybe it >>would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions.? >>Happy 4th !! >>Umesh >>k6vug From kk5do at amsat.org Wed Jul 4 18:41:30 2018 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 13:41:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Roving questions In-Reply-To: References: <20180704154252.6FC0686CF@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: <3F55DB8F-EA87-49FA-8677-3206E20F4F06@amsat.org> Remember that any grid boundary can be questioned by the ARRL. Yes, a very good idea to use your smartphone and an app that gives lat/long and take a screen shot. If you have a standalone gps, take a picture. Just a CYA. As srated, AMSAT is an honor system and in the 20+ years I have been doing awards I never had to question someone about a contact. I have asked for some logs for field day but that is a different animal. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Bryan KL7CN wrote: As Paul says, it's on the honor system. However, it is not a bad protocol to take a picture of yourself or your location with the GPS location-stamping enabled in your phone camera. There was a time when I went to a relatively exotic location on a cruise ship and operated from the land ashore of the boat. A picture settled arguments between the suspicious and the pedantic for Satellite DXCC credit for that operation. -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > On Jul 4, 2018, at 09:42, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > Bob, > > Documentation is only required if you operate from a grid line or corner. > Otherwise, it's all on the honor system. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:42 AM, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB > wrote: > >> >> >> I plan to go to DM 54 soon, a semi rare grid for satellites >> How do I prove I was there?Take a picture of me at some site in the grid, >> or, if I tell amsat I am going there, they believe me?BobWa7dxzDm33 >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 4 21:08:43 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 21:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> References: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <594729364.2816353.1530738523442@mail.yahoo.com> I just got back from watching the parade in our city, wow what a show ! Charlie, it is wonderful to meet you and to get your offer to help us out.? Yes that would be great start, in all fairness, we'd have to give credit to the student and their school for their questions.? Based on my rough calculations it is NOT a daunting task... Here are some stats I found? ( ref https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt? )? a) School contacts started in 2000 and there are a total of 1236 sessions to date b) Assuming a 10 minute usable time for one pass and one Q/A per minute we are looking at 12360 interactions? c) At 1 line of text per question and 3 lines per answer we will be looking at roughly 12360 times 4 = 50000 lines of text ??? - that is probably less than one day's interaction on this BBS (hi!)? So, it's no big deal, and it gets better when we look at the following things working to our benefit - a) time is on our side, (as long as we K.I.S.S.) b) questions are submitted in advance (so Charlie AJ9N may already have those), c) for the answers that we don't have, the school contact person may be in Charlie's list, so we can request them for any record of their sessions they may have, d) we can request ARISS & NASA admin to let the astronauts, when they return to Earth, to review our "Almanac" and add any missing answers at their leisure, and complete the picture. also, e) for starters, the Almanac should be a static page, (sorry no RegEx stuff please)? f) later we may add pictures, cross references, related items and/or a public comments section, but only as long as the underlying web platform permits it without increasing our work-load.? g) this could be hosted as a sub-domain of ARISS or AMSAT websites, thus isolating one from the other of any design changes or content updates,? After a lifetime in hi-tech, if there is one thing I have realized is that WE techies have to pave the road for our future generations, and a nice soft road for the little minds to wander on. :)? Initial set of action items I think will be - 1) get sign-off and/or no objections from all stake-holders like AMSAT, ARISS, NASA, etc.,? (who can help ?)? 2) review what we can get from Charlie's files? (I'll take this one)?? 3) work with AMSAT-IT or ARISS-IT teams to figure out the right implementation style (will need some help here)? JoAnne, I saw your response, thank you, we'll need all the help we can get !?? Charlie, if you like you can send me a link to your shareable files for action item (2), thank you !?? Today we are looking at the experiences of the ISS crew, in a few years it may be settlers on the Moon or even Mars.? 73!Umeshk6vug On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 9:48:41 AM PDT, wrote: Hi all, I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff.? So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies.? For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school.? Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't.? For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that.? Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites.? I don't even remember when I was on HF last. I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name.? Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked.? As has been stated by someone, not all get answered.? And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists.? Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. Comments? 73,Charlie Sufana AJ9NOne of the ARISS mentors From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 21:25:28 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:25:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <594729364.2816353.1530738523442@mail.yahoo.com> References: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> <594729364.2816353.1530738523442@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Remember that contact people at schools can be quite mobile. The move on, quit teaching, retire, some die. What happens to answers is an unknown. Even for questions at the first 7 contacts don?t have them listed in the database. I?m not saying not to try but this is daunting. As Frank Bauer points out it?s something in the queue and had been discussed. I suggest that we would start compiling the questions. Divide them up by year and distribute them to volunteers. Start with some type of agreement on the format of a data base. And start copying and pasting. A plan to recover answers could be developed as we work forward. Working backwards may result in faster dividends. I suggest that some questions will be redundant enough that we weed out like and similar questions and fit them with the best answer (read this as authentic and correct even if responded at a different time). In some respects it will be similar to genealogy research, there will be dead ends that might be fillable with collaborative data. Just considering the time to find read and the copy and paste data collected over the past 18 years is daunting and not for faint of heart or those with short attention spans. Can it be done? Sure. But we?ll need to be persistent and patient. 73 EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 5:08 PM, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > > I just got back from watching the parade in our city, wow what a show ! > > Charlie, it is wonderful to meet you and to get your offer to help us out. Yes that would be great start, in all fairness, we'd have to give credit to the student and their school for their questions. > > Based on my rough calculations it is NOT a daunting task... Here are some stats I found ( ref https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt ) > a) School contacts started in 2000 and there are a total of 1236 sessions to date > b) Assuming a 10 minute usable time for one pass and one Q/A per minute we are looking at 12360 interactions > c) At 1 line of text per question and 3 lines per answer we will be looking at roughly 12360 times 4 = 50000 lines of text > - that is probably less than one day's interaction on this BBS (hi!) > > So, it's no big deal, and it gets better when we look at the following things working to our benefit - > a) time is on our side, (as long as we K.I.S.S.) > b) questions are submitted in advance (so Charlie AJ9N may already have those), > c) for the answers that we don't have, the school contact person may be in Charlie's list, so we can request them for any record of their sessions they may have, > d) we can request ARISS & NASA admin to let the astronauts, when they return to Earth, to review our "Almanac" and add any missing answers at their leisure, and complete the picture. > also, > e) for starters, the Almanac should be a static page, (sorry no RegEx stuff please) f) later we may add pictures, cross references, related items and/or a public comments section, but only as long as the underlying web platform permits it without increasing our work-load. > g) this could be hosted as a sub-domain of ARISS or AMSAT websites, thus isolating one from the other of any design changes or content updates, > > After a lifetime in hi-tech, if there is one thing I have realized is that WE techies have to pave the road for our future generations, and a nice soft road for the little minds to wander on. :) > > Initial set of action items I think will be - > 1) get sign-off and/or no objections from all stake-holders like AMSAT, ARISS, NASA, etc., (who can help ?) > 2) review what we can get from Charlie's files (I'll take this one) > 3) work with AMSAT-IT or ARISS-IT teams to figure out the right implementation style (will need some help here) > > JoAnne, I saw your response, thank you, we'll need all the help we can get ! > Charlie, if you like you can send me a link to your shareable files for action item (2), thank you ! > > Today we are looking at the experiences of the ISS crew, in a few years it may be settlers on the Moon or even Mars. > > > 73!Umeshk6vug > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 9:48:41 AM PDT, wrote: > > Hi all, > I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff. So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies. For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school. Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't. For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. > I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that. Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites. I don't even remember when I was on HF last. > I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name. Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked. As has been stated by someone, not all get answered. And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists. Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. > My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. > Comments? > 73,Charlie Sufana AJ9NOne of the ARISS mentors > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 4 21:32:22 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 21:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: References: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: <565277266.2827716.1530739942441@mail.yahoo.com> Duly noted John, I'm sure the upstream data scientists would like that. This kind of data mining may be possible from the historical data pool, however if the children do look at the Almanac, they may (repeat may) choose not ask the same questions. Good thought ! 73! Umesh? k6vug? On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 10:16:04 AM PDT, John Brier wrote: I'm no expert but it seems like this would be a good candidate for a software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression just to find the amount of questions that mentioned "bathroom" or other related words :-) 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM, aj9n--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi all, > > I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff.? So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies.? For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school.? Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't.? For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. > > I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that.? Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites.? I don't even remember when I was on HF last. > > I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name.? Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked.? As has been stated by someone, not all get answered.? And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists.? Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. > > My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. > > Comments? > > 73, > Charlie Sufana AJ9N > One of the ARISS mentors > > > In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm at gmail.com writes: > > >? Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn?t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what?s it like or how?s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From antonio at qti.qualcomm.com Wed Jul 4 21:41:48 2018 From: antonio at qti.qualcomm.com (Franklin Antonio) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 21:41:48 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 In-Reply-To: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> References: <00ad01d413c7$5301bef0$f9053cd0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1530740508686.63187@qti.qualcomm.com> I have run InstantTrack under Win10. I just installed DOSBOX, and ran it there, if I remember correctly. ________________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of tjschuessler at verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 11:46 AM To: 'AMSAT BB' Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack or similar usable on Win 10 I was wanting to describe to some folks I am doing a satellite demonstration for next week, about how some satellites have stable sun-synchronous orbits while others process earlier each day. The old DOS program, InstantTrack, that most likely will not work under the Windows 10/64 bit world had a nice display of this behavior, Are there any recommendations for a more modern application that will do the same type of thing? If you are not familiar with what I am talking about, look at page SO-3 in the current "Getting Started." book from AMSAT (As well as on earlier pages) to see what I am looking for. A web search shows that it should be in the AMSAT software archives but the page link for that particular software is broken. It is a nice planning utility, especially for birds that do change times each day. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Wed Jul 4 21:57:20 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:57:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <565277266.2827716.1530739942441@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <164674cc0bd-c95-9881@webjas-vab176.srv.aolmail.net> Hi all, ? Frank Bauer just sent an email a little while ago.? There is something very seriously in the works that ARISS is doing.? It has been in the works for some time.? I have a feeling it involves much much more than what some of you have suggested; we will see.? So in the meantime, I suggest everyone slow down a bit and ARISS will let you know what happens next.? Frank was pretty clear in what exactly he could tell everyone at this point in time.? So let ARISS do its job.? (Seems like a job anyway since I have already put 2 hours in on ARISS today.? I think today is a holiday.? Hi!) ? I think you have to realize that the kids come up with the questions, irregardless of any almanac.? So if we see the same question 1000 times, then we see the same question 1000 times.? It is their question, not from ARISS, not from AMSAT.? It is theirs.? It is their question and hopefully a response directly to them that they are wanting to get directly from the astronaut who calls them by name (by the way, ARISS does not publish any student names in the public domain because of privacy concerns).? What a thrill. ? Thanks for the interest in ARISS.? When I was ARISS contact #1 back in December 2000, we really were not sure how much interest there would be.? We thought it might be pretty big but we never knew.? It seems to that there is a little bit of interest.? ? 73, Charlie AJ9N One of the ARISS mentors ? In a message dated 7/4/2018 2:32:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, k6vug at sbcglobal.net writes: ? ? Duly noted John, I'm sure the upstream data scientists would like that. This kind of data mining may be possible from the historical data pool, however if the children do look at the Almanac, they may (repeat may) choose not ask the same questions. ? Good thought ! ? 73! Umesh? k6vug? ? ? ? On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 10:16:04 AM PDT, John Brier wrote: ? ? I'm no expert but it seems like this would be a good candidate for a software program of some kind. Statistical analysis/categorization? Artificial intelligence or machine learning? You could use a regular expression just to find the amount of questions that mentioned "bathroom" or other related words :-) 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:48 PM, aj9n--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi all, > > I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff.? So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies.? For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school.? Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't.? For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. > > I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that.? Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites.? I don't even remember when I was on HF last. > > I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name.? Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked.? As has been stated by someone, not all get answered.? And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists.? Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. > > My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. > > Comments? > > 73, > Charlie Sufana AJ9N > One of the ARISS mentors > > > In a message dated 7/4/2018 4:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, mccardelm at gmail.com writes: > > >? Umesh, I like your idea. Assuming you are referring to questions asked during ARISS contacts. I would estimate that over 20,000 questions have been asked over the years and this doesn?t include SAREX contacts. Questions could possibly be reproduced in that questions are written out and submitted in advance of the contact. Remember though, not all questions are answered by end of contact. I believe ARISS Ops maintain an historical archive of the documentation of each contact including questions (not sure about Russian contacts). The downside is that the same is not true about the answers. The answers are off the cuff by the astronauts. So unless one could get a recording of the contacts or a transcript that may have been reported, it would be difficult to reconstruct the full conversations over the years. Where as most contacts have been recorded in some form there is not a central repository for them. Many recordings would have been done by the school or individuals associated with the contacts. Gathering these would be a rather daunting task. I have always wanted to parse through the information to discover the most asked questions, or class the questions into categories. For example I have noticed there are many what?s it like or how?s it different to live in space questions. Many ask questions about the astronauts contingency if things go wrong. What do you miss most about earth or home. Another is how do you prepare or what classes should I take or what path should I take to become an astronaut. I also am curious about similar questions asked different astronauts that receive conflicting answers (or an astronaut conflicting him/herself during different contacts.) 73, EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:01 AM, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" wrote: > > > Thank you Ted, this is a great question since we all have one time or another wondered how things are from up there ! > > On a side note, I have been wondering about an "Almanac" page on the website that would list all the questions that have ever been asked and their answers from the ISS crew. Credits would be given to the first person/child asking the question, and for every crew member answering the question. If different answers were given for any said question, it would just add that much more flavor. There would be no need for any heavy lifting work as in sorting or grouping these, since it would be easy to search for words/terms on the web page. Maybe it would lead to some very interesting S.T.E.M. discussions. > > Happy 4th !! > > Umesh > k6vug > > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:54:48 PM PDT, Ted Krempa wrote: > > Good article and response, Umesh !! > > Happy Independence Day to all !! > > 73, Ted > K7TRK > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of k6vug at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:51 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org; Mike Hoblinski > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question > > Here is something discussion about it... > https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-New-Years-Eve-fireworks-from-outer-space > Umeshk6vug > > > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 6:33:22 PM PDT, Mike Hoblinski wrote: > > I watching the news about all the 4th of July celebrations planned across the USA and maybe > during New Years celebration if the astronauts aboard the space station can see any indication of fireworks. > > Mike > N6IMF > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk5do at arrl.net Wed Jul 4 22:34:43 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:34:43 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Submissions Message-ID: <2e99e7f2-c2d9-c4df-1cc8-65107d95daa5@arrl.net> Time is drawing near. If your group has not submitted your results for Field Day, Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:59 PM Central Time is the deadline. This is earlier than the due date for the ARRL. When I receive your submission, I WILL send you a reply stating I have them. If you do not receive the reply, send them again. Try kk5do at arrl.net or kk5do at amsat.org Pictures and short stories of your Field Day adventure is always welcome. We had a record number of satellites in use for this Field Day and I am hoping a record number of reporting stations with a record number of QSO's and points. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From john.marranca at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 01:19:28 2018 From: john.marranca at gmail.com (John Marranca, Jr) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 21:19:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT2DR and Falconsat-3 Message-ID: Happy 4th everyone. My XYL ordered me a Yaesu FT2DR for my birthday. Apparently, all of the whining I've been doing pertaining to not being able to work the 9600 baud APRS gave her an idea for me. Question....is anyone using the 2DR for this? How do you like the 2DR if you do??? TNX!! John KB2HSH FN02nx From milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 03:57:38 2018 From: milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com (Milen KG2C) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 23:57:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] FT2DR and Falconsat-3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I tried it once and I was able to receive several packets, one of which was mine, so I assume I got digipeated successfully. The APRS interface is not the most straight forward (especially composing messages) but as long as you are not in a rush it is doable. The radio has a dedicated APRS manual that you can download. Some of the functionality and UI is unintuitive for APRS (unlike the rest of the menus) and absolutely requires reading the manual to do. On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 9:19 PM, John Marranca, Jr wrote: > Happy 4th everyone. My XYL ordered me a Yaesu FT2DR for my birthday. > Apparently, all of the whining I've been doing pertaining to not being able > to work the 9600 baud APRS gave her an idea for me. Question....is anyone > using the 2DR for this? How do you like the 2DR if you do??? > > TNX!! > > John KB2HSH > FN02nx > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From OLDBIKER at sky.com Thu Jul 5 12:42:13 2018 From: OLDBIKER at sky.com (Roger Titmuss) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 13:42:13 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] The correct Radio Message-ID: <000001d4145d$996f76c0$cc4e6440$@com> Hi guys heard a lot of stories about several radios my inclination is towards a TS2000 Is this good choice Thanks Roger From red at redwilloughby.com Thu Jul 5 13:01:46 2018 From: red at redwilloughby.com (Red Willoughby) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 08:01:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] UBAKUSAT Message-ID: Any word on when UBAKUSAT's linear transponder might be activated? Thanks, Red KC4LE From pmcclosky at earthlink.net Thu Jul 5 13:17:06 2018 From: pmcclosky at earthlink.net (Peter J. McClosky) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 06:17:06 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] KENWOOD TM-V71A Message-ID: Hello All, Is anyone using the Kenwood TM-V71A for Satellite work? I am looking for a portable station for field operations and, looking at the spec?s this radio seems to fit the bill. Anything I should know about it? Based upon this forum, I purchased the Kenwood TS-2000 for a base station, and I LOVE it! Peter, N7IY ----- Peter J. McClosky, N7IY Eugene, Oregon pmcclosky at earthlink.net n7iy at arrl.net http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/ From royldean at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 14:03:16 2018 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:03:16 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] KENWOOD TM-V71A Message-ID: If you can swing a little extra, consider getting the TM-D710G. It will allow operation on the APRS satellites (currently NO-84 and FS-3, but soon - hopefully, also PSAT-2 and Birds-2). I use a D710 as my "home base", and love it. Nice being able to crank it up to 50 watts to get sub 10? contacts THROUGH TREES in my backyard (got one yesterday with K2MTS, and the sat was at about 5? though my ash trees in my backyard). Normally I operate at 10w, which is more than enough to get all the FM voice sats, including AO-85, without having to do any "arrow flipping". Adjust for best downlink only. --Roy K3RLD > Hello All, Is anyone using the Kenwood TM-V71A for Satellite work? I am > looking for a portable station for field operations and, looking at the > spec?s this radio seems to fit the bill. Anything I should know about it? > Based upon this forum, I purchased the Kenwood TS-2000 for a base station, > and I LOVE it! Peter, N7IY From occamrazr at yahoo.com Thu Jul 5 14:20:54 2018 From: occamrazr at yahoo.com (Butch) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:20:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] TS-2000 packet setup Message-ID: <2DFE16D1-1DF9-4041-BD93-33082FB2325B@yahoo.com> I am new to TS-2000 and have forgotten almost all I ever knew about packet. I am currently trying to set up UISS and UZ7HO apps. I have these working on the IC-7100. On the TS-2000, when I plug the 13 pin plug into acc 2, the rig no longer puts out audio. If I remove the plug, speaker audio returns. What am I missing? I would also like to hear from anyone successfully using packet on the TS-2000 - either with built-in TNC or software TNC. Thanks, Butch K8KO From scott23192 at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 16:02:05 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 12:02:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] KENWOOD TM-V71A In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Peter! I have the TM-V71A and enjoy it greatly. Besides normal FM voice ops, the 9600-capable data port on the back gets used a lot with data modes to/from my computer. Of course it does a great job on 1200 packet as well. 73! -Scott, K4KDR =========================== On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Peter J. McClosky wrote: > Hello All, > > Is anyone using the Kenwood TM-V71A for Satellite work? > > I am looking for a portable station for field operations and, looking at > the spec?s this radio seems to fit the bill. > > Anything I should know about it? > > Based upon this forum, I purchased the Kenwood TS-2000 for a base station, > and I LOVE it! > > Peter, N7IY > ----- > Peter J. McClosky, N7IY > Eugene, Oregon > pmcclosky at earthlink.net > n7iy at arrl.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/ From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 16:10:51 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 12:10:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] KENWOOD TM-V71A In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is my main FM sat rig. Love it. Works great getting into AO-85 which is a little deaf. I built a body harness thingy for it: https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/mobile-radio-body-support/ I agree that the TM-D710GA is probably better if you can afford it, for the APRS sats. I don't think it would fit my body harness set up though. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:04 Scott wrote: > Hi Peter! > > I have the TM-V71A and enjoy it greatly. Besides normal FM voice ops, the > 9600-capable data port on the back gets used a lot with data modes to/from > my computer. Of course it does a great job on 1200 packet as well. > > 73! > > -Scott, K4KDR > > =========================== > > > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Peter J. McClosky > > wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > Is anyone using the Kenwood TM-V71A for Satellite work? > > > > I am looking for a portable station for field operations and, looking at > > the spec?s this radio seems to fit the bill. > > > > Anything I should know about it? > > > > Based upon this forum, I purchased the Kenwood TS-2000 for a base > station, > > and I LOVE it! > > > > Peter, N7IY > > ----- > > Peter J. McClosky, N7IY > > Eugene, Oregon > > pmcclosky at earthlink.net > > n7iy at arrl.net > > http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/ > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From cchunter3 at mindspring.com Thu Jul 5 16:17:02 2018 From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (cchunter3 at mindspring.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 09:17:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] KENWOOD TM-V71A Message-ID: <212335013.4917.1530807422666@wamui-abby.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I Peter, I have used the TM-V71A as portable with my ARROW II, works, great for SATs. also have one as base station and mobile. and use it for terrestrial packet. it puts out a fixed level voltage frm the dataport for packet so be sure if you use with a TNC it will operate at the levels of the radio.(9600 bd). its a great easy-to-program on-the-fly radio. 73 Christy KB6LTY From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 6 11:27:38 2018 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV still active + OSCAR News References: <1746351979.83373.1530876458715.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1746351979.83373.1530876458715@mail.yahoo.com> As of Friday, July 6 Slow Scan TV is still being transmitted from the International Space Station on 145.800 MHz FM. The transmissions were originally planned just for Jun 29-July 1 https://amsat-uk.org/2018/06/27/receive-sstv-from-space/ The Summer issue of OSCAR News is now available for AMSAT-UK members to download https://amsat-uk.org/2018/07/05/summer-issue-of-oscar-news-now-available-2/ Trevor M5AKA---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From m-arai at a.email.ne.jp Fri Jul 6 13:18:10 2018 From: m-arai at a.email.ne.jp (Masahiro Arai) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 22:18:10 +0900 Subject: [amsat-bb] CubeSats deploy from ISS 13th July Message-ID: JAXA announced NRCSD#14 nine CubeSats deploy from ISS at 13th July. The nine CubeSats are RainCube, Radix, CubeRRT, HaloSat, TEMPEST-D, EnduroSat AD, EQUISat, MemSat and RadSat-g. EnduroSat AD, EQUISat and MemSat will operate on amateur band. IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows following operation plan. EnduroSat AD ?437.050MHz CW, GFSK 9k6 EQUISat 435.550MHz CW, FSK 9k6 MemSat 437.350MHz BPSK 9k6 Happy chasing! Masa JN1GKZ Tokyo Japan From garnere at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 16:13:26 2018 From: garnere at gmail.com (Eric Garner) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 09:13:26 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu g5400B longevity in stroage In-Reply-To: <9bb75573-3f9b-7ab9-fda6-bcaceafb007d@ukdx.org.uk> References: <9bb75573-3f9b-7ab9-fda6-bcaceafb007d@ukdx.org.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, to all those that responded. The consensus seems to be that I should pull it apart, clean and re-grease the whole thing. -Eric KI7LTT On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:53 AM, Paul wrote: > Eric, having just brought a 5400 elevation rotator back into service I > would say you should do the following. > > Open it up, add anti seize compound to all the nuts and screws. > Replace both sets of ball bearings with stainless steel ones. I was > advised they are 5/16" not 8MM and have had no issues with imperial sized > ones, I chose to leave the bearing retainers in place. > Regrease everything and wipe all the cog surfaces with grease, the one on > my position pot was badly corroded. > Junk the eight cross head bolts that hold the casing together and replace > with stainless socket head bolts. > Use a liquid gasket when you stick the two halves back together and > consider enlarging the drain hole in the case. > This may seem a lot of work for something that is effectively new but it > will save a lot more grief in the long run. > > The azimuth rotators seem to fare a little better but again I would > replace any external bolts with stainless, ditto the bearings and > regrease/anti seize everything else. > > It's a convenient time to say thanks to everyone who offered advice and > tips when I renovated mine. As I took some photos through the process I > decided to put them together in a small web page, hope it's OK to post it. > http://www.ukdx.org.uk/tv/rotator.htm > > 73 > Paul > > > On 03/07/2018 23:31, Eric Garner wrote: > >> I acquired a G5400 az/el rotator that looks to be in pristine condition, >> apart from some rubber rot. I don't think it's ever been mounted outside >> in >> the weather. Since this has been in storage for probably at least 20 >> years, >> what should be done with it to put it into service? does it need to be >> pulled apart and re-greased? can I just replace the rotted rubber parts >> and >> call it good? >> >> >> pictures here: >> >> http://www.pushingbubbles.com/radio-stuff/new-rotator/ >> >> >> thanks >> >> -Eric KI7LTT >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- --Eric _________________________________________ Eric Garner From jim at milnet.uk.net Fri Jul 6 17:08:55 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 18:08:55 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Mode change Message-ID: <8EF07AF8241245C5BEF70EF88E34BB53@jimPC2> Hi Folks, AO-73/FUNCube has just been switched mode, so that the transponder is now ON full time. The plan, as usual, is to revert to educational mode on Sunday evening (UTC). As always, have FUN. 73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNCube team From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com Fri Jul 6 20:36:13 2018 From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 15:36:13 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> Sorry, I am just now reading about the AO-7 orbit "count turn over" question. Assuming a 99,999 orbit turn over as calculated by Space-Track: Yes, this will be the second time the data has exceeded the 99,999 orbit count limit in the SpaceTrack TLEs. Just a short history: AO-7 was launched on November 15, 1974. AO-7 became non-operational mid 1981 (after 7 years) due to battery failure. In 2002, one of the shorted batteries became open and AO-7 could then be powered without the battery by its solar panels when in sunlight. The AMSAT digital KEPs distribution system started operation sometime in 1991 with Dick Campbell (N3FKV) as Orbital Data Manager. At that time AO-7 had already gone silent due to the battery short in 1981. When I was handed the KEP distribution baton in 1993, AO-7 had been silent for about 12 years and was NOT in the KEP distribution list. But, due to loss of that battery short sometime before June 20, 2002, it came back! I first added AO-7 back in the KEPs on June 20, 2002 after 21 years of being silent. The orbit count, at that point, was 26,363 orbits. This indicates that AO-7 had already crossed its first 99,999 orbit "count turn over" sometime while it was out of service. Currently, we are at 99,696 orbits and counting on July 6, 2018. Yes, nothing will happen after the orbit "count turn over" (like Y2K - HI). As previously noted, most if not all tracking programs do not use the orbit number data for anything. Maybe display only??? Note: The orbit count is calculated by Space-Track and is not an actual count of orbits completed. It is an indicating number that excludes many factors (particularly orbit drag). Alan (W4SCA) is right, it is just an odometer giving an indication, not an exact data point. And NOT as accurate as the odometer in your car. And yes, what an amazing satellite and a great testimony to its builders! AO-7, the little satellite that could! I think a 200,000 orbit celebration is warranted! What should we do? Ray Hoad WA5QGD AMSAT-NA Orbital Elements Manager -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of E.Mike McCardel Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 19:25 To: Pedro Converso Cc: AMSAT BB ; APBIDDLE at mailaps.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. I ran a simulation on my cell phone app HamSat. I know it isn?t perfect. I found that orbits rolled over from 99999 to 100000 at 04:13:28 EDT (091228 UTC). The resultant map shows it over Mongolia. So, I?m just letting my curiosity run rampant and thinking out loud. Considering that it?s period has changed over time, what constitutes an orbit? How does the software account for that? 73 EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Pedro Converso wrote: > > Hi all, > > Nice idea to celebrate AO-7 200th orbit anniversary, our beloved > grandfather bird merits it. > > Looks that 200k orbit will happen around August the 1st see: > http://amsat.org.ar/ao7-200k.gif . > > http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=ao-7 account for orbits above 100k. > > We hams should be thankful to have AO-7 alive, duly recognizing those > that made it possible . > > 73, LU7ABF, Pedro > >> On 7/2/18, Alan wrote: >> Greg, >> >> Fortunately this is not a TEOTWAWKI Y2K issue. Unlike most of the other >> numbers in the Keps, the orbit count has nothing to do with predicting the >> orbit, and can be completely ignored. Some programs do that. Others >> compute backwards and forwards from the reference epoch and orbit number in >> the Keps they are using. I am most familiar with SatPC32, and when working >> on prelaunch Keps recently, I found that if you ran it backwards in time >> before the launch, it will happily show negative numbers. ;) >> >> The problem is that when the specification for the Keps we use was created, >> it only allowed 5 digits for the orbit count. That seemed enough, and >> comes >> from Space Track that way. So like an odometer it just rolls over. In >> principle, software could look for that, and automatically compensate. >> >> I can't speak for all the software out there, but in most cases they will >> just roll over and keep on tracking. >> >> 73, >> >> Alan >> WA4SCA >> >> >> >> >> <-----Original Message----- >> > > >> >> > < >> > < >> > <(if, indeed, we even had any back then) when it rolled over? What is >> > < >> > < >> > < >> < >> > <> Tom, >> <> >> <> It has in fact turned over once already. >> <> >> <> 73, >> <> >> <> Alan >> <> WA4SCA >> <> >> <> Sent from my Waring blender. >> <> >> <> >> <> <-----Original Message----- >> <> > <> > <> > <> >> <> > <> < >> <> <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a >> <> > > <> > <> < >> <> > <> < >> <> <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: >> <> <> >> <> <> Tom, >> <> <> >> <> <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit >> 99999 >> <> <> on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out >> exactly >> <> <> when. >> <> <> >> <> <> 73, >> <> <> >> <> <> Alan >> <> <> WA4SCA >> <> <> >> <> <> >> <> <> <-----Original Message----- >> <> <> > <> <> > <> <> > <> <> >> <> <> > <> <> < >> <> <> > in >> <> <> orbit >> <> <> > count >> > <> <> > we >> <> > <> <> > then >> this >> <> <> > > <> <> that >> <> <> > to >> <> <> throw >> <> <> > AO-7 >> <> <> > <> <> < >> <> <> <73 >> <> <> < >> <> <> > <> <> > <> <> < >> <> <> < >> <> <> < >> <> <> <_______________________________________________ >> <> <> > <> > <> <> > <> > <> <> > <> <> > views >> of >> <> <> AMSAT- >> <> <> > <> <> > <> <> > <> <> > > <> <> >> <> >> <> _______________________________________________ >> <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> > <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> > <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> > <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> > <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 21:33:29 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 16:33:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> Message-ID: <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI) once observed that AO-7 was the only amateur satellite known to have suffered two catastrophic failures, thereby returning it to service. Hi HI 73, Alan WA4SCA From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 00:07:16 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 17:07:16 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> Message-ID: With any luck, AO-7 will outlive (or perhaps it already has) the IBM punch card that caused the whole 5-digit thing in the first place. Of the constants in the universe, the first one is 42, immediately followed by either 72 or 80, depending on your background. We apparently had programmers define the KEPs format, as both lines are 71 characters long... :) Greg KO6TH (For source code, columns 73-80 were reserved for sequence numbers, so that when you dropped your deck, the cards could be reassembled in the proper order.) Alan wrote: > Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI) once observed that AO-7 was the only amateur satellite known to have suffered two catastrophic failures, thereby returning it to service. Hi HI > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From paulopv8dx at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 15:43:39 2018 From: paulopv8dx at gmail.com (Paulo PV8DX) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 11:43:39 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] RES: CubeSats deploy from ISS 13th July In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01d41609$49a20a60$dce61f20$@gmail.com> Hi Masa Success for new CUBEs I will be hoping EQUISat will also succeed. Opportunity to verify the low costs of a CUBE in operation. And who knows, look on land the brightness of their LED. The predictionis that after 26 orbit has a flash of 400W. I remembered the CUBE FITSAT with similar proposal. 73 de Paulo PV8DX LABRE/ARRL AMSAT/NA/UK member FJ92pt - VUCC SAT https://sites.google.com/view/pauopv8dx/ Contact ARISS 13/fev/2014 exp.37 http://www.labre-rr.org/ariss.html Boa Vista-Roraima-Brasil pv8dx at arrl.net -----Mensagem original----- De: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] Em nome de Masahiro Arai Enviada em: sexta-feira, 6 de julho de 2018 09:18 Para: amsat-bb at amsat.org Assunto: [amsat-bb] CubeSats deploy from ISS 13th July JAXA announced NRCSD#14 nine CubeSats deploy from ISS at 13th July. The nine CubeSats are RainCube, Radix, CubeRRT, HaloSat, TEMPEST-D, EnduroSat AD, EQUISat, MemSat and RadSat-g. EnduroSat AD, EQUISat and MemSat will operate on amateur band. IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination shows following operation plan. EnduroSat AD ?437.050MHz CW, GFSK 9k6 EQUISat 435.550MHz CW, FSK 9k6 MemSat 437.350MHz BPSK 9k6 Happy chasing! Masa JN1GKZ Tokyo Japan _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From w3ab at yahoo.com Sat Jul 7 22:34:55 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (GEO Badger) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question In-Reply-To: <594729364.2816353.1530738523442@mail.yahoo.com> References: <16466321e36-c92-84b9@webjas-vad037.srv.aolmail.net> <594729364.2816353.1530738523442@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1900466216.565306.1531002895225@mail.yahoo.com> If you want to get in line for an ISS contact you need to fill out the paperwork. It's due by NOV for next year. I believe all the slots are filled for now.?---? Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ?? GEO ??? http://www.w3ab.org Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. From: "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Cc: aj9n at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] View from the space station question I just got back from watching the parade in our city, wow what a show ! Charlie, it is wonderful to meet you and to get your offer to help us out.? Yes that would be great start, in all fairness, we'd have to give credit to the student and their school for their questions.? Based on my rough calculations it is NOT a daunting task... Here are some stats I found?? ( ref https://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt? )? a) School contacts started in 2000 and there are a total of 1236 sessions to date b) Assuming a 10 minute usable time for one pass and one Q/A per minute we are looking at 12360 interactions? c) At 1 line of text per question and 3 lines per answer we will be looking at roughly 12360 times 4 = 50000 lines of text ??? - that is probably less than one day's interaction on this BBS (hi!)? So, it's no big deal, and it gets better when we look at the following things working to our benefit - a) time is on our side, (as long as we K.I.S.S.) b) questions are submitted in advance (so Charlie AJ9N may already have those), c) for the answers that we don't have, the school contact person may be in Charlie's list, so we can request them for any record of their sessions they may have, d) we can request ARISS & NASA admin to let the astronauts, when they return to Earth, to review our "Almanac" and add any missing answers at their leisure, and complete the picture. also, e) for starters, the Almanac should be a static page, (sorry no RegEx stuff please)? f) later we may add pictures, cross references, related items and/or a public comments section, but only as long as the underlying web platform permits it without increasing our work-load.? g) this could be hosted as a sub-domain of ARISS or AMSAT websites, thus isolating one from the other of any design changes or content updates,? After a lifetime in hi-tech, if there is one thing I have realized is that WE techies have to pave the road for our future generations, and a nice soft road for the little minds to wander on. :)? Initial set of action items I think will be - 1) get sign-off and/or no objections from all stake-holders like AMSAT, ARISS, NASA, etc.,? (who can help ?)? 2) review what we can get from Charlie's files? (I'll take this one)?? 3) work with AMSAT-IT or ARISS-IT teams to figure out the right implementation style (will need some help here)? JoAnne, I saw your response, thank you, we'll need all the help we can get !?? Charlie, if you like you can send me a link to your shareable files for action item (2), thank you !?? Today we are looking at the experiences of the ISS crew, in a few years it may be settlers on the Moon or even Mars.? 73!Umeshk6vug ? ? On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 9:48:41 AM PDT, wrote:? Hi all, I am the ARISS Op who keeps track of everything, posts the first public domain info, and who maintains the private ARISS stuff.? So I have just about everything I think people are looking for. except for the crew replies.? For those, one would need to get a copy of the video or audio that was recorded by the school.? Some of us ARISS mentors get a copy from the school, sometimes we don't.? For some schools, they are barely able to have a contact, so it is debatable if they also have recording equipment. I have zero time (I average 2 to 3 hours every day maintaining all of the ARISS stuff) to crank out a list of the questions asked but if someone wants to look at what the schools were going to ask, then I can provide that.? Now that I retired for the second time, maybe I will have time to get back on HF or the satellites.? I don't even remember when I was on HF last. I am willing to zip file what are really the files that I post to AMSAT-BB (which makes them in the public domain) and put to DropBox or email them directly; they are my working copies that have a date and time stamp as part of the file name.? Someone could go into each file and retrieve the questions that were to be asked.? As has been stated by someone, not all get answered.? And often times there are a few extra questions that get asked on the fly which would not be in my lists.? Fortunately, we do eventually get the questions from Russia but often times that is after the fact, so they may not be in the announcements. My rough math on the number is somewhere close to 26000 ARISS questions. Comments? 73,Charlie Sufana AJ9NOne of the ARISS mentors ? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aa8ch at aol.com Sun Jul 8 00:16:29 2018 From: aa8ch at aol.com (aa8ch at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 20:16:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reminder N8R July 10-14 Message-ID: <164773f39a7-179f-9752@webjas-vab174.srv.aolmail.net> Hi! EN74, EN75, EN76, EN85, EN86: I have updated the N8R QRZ.com page with more information. 73 and I hope to work everyone who needs these grids Chris AA8CH From m5aka at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jul 8 12:00:39 2018 From: m5aka at yahoo.co.uk (M5AKA) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 12:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium Oct 13-14 + Goonhilly Balloon Launch References: <138225714.1200573.1531051239410.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <138225714.1200573.1531051239410@mail.yahoo.com> 434 MHz high altitude balloon launch from Goonhilly, Cornwall on Tuesday, July 10. Signal should be receivable across most of British Isles. Listen worldwide using the SUWS WebSDR https://amsat-uk.org/2018/07/08/434-mhz-balloon-launch-from-goonhilly/ CubeSats to deploy from ISS July 13 https://amsat-uk.org/2018/07/07/cubesats-to-deploy-from-iss-july-13/ SSTV transmissions from Space Station on 145.800 MHz FM are continuing https://amsat-uk.org/2018/06/27/receive-sstv-from-space/ The Summer issue of OSCAR News is now available for AMSAT-UK members to download https://amsat-uk.org/2018/07/05/summer-issue-of-oscar-news-now-available-2/ Book now for AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium at Milton Keynes Oct 13-14 https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/ Trevor M5AKA---- AMSAT-UK?http://amsat-uk.org/ Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK ---- From morgan_st at live.com Sat Jul 7 15:39:11 2018 From: morgan_st at live.com (Stewart Morgan) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 15:39:11 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV Series 10 Images Now Uncropped Message-ID: The ISS SSTV images from Series 10 are now being transmitted without the unwanted cropping.? Get 'em while you can. Todd AL0I From hancockqi at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 02:55:51 2018 From: hancockqi at gmail.com (Jerrold Hancock) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 16:55:51 -1000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 233 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Put On Monday, July 2, 2018, wrote: > Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to > amsat-bb at amsat.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > amsat-bb-request at amsat.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > amsat-bb-owner at amsat.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMSAT-BB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ANS-185 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins > (Chris Bradley (AA0CB)) > 2. Portable operation from FN-21 (Richard Lawn) > 3. Help for "Moon Day" (tjschuessler at verizon.net) > 4. AO-7 orbit count. (tjschuessler at verizon.net) > 5. Re: AO-7 orbit count. (Alan) > 6. Re: AO-7 orbit count. (Tom Schuessler) > 7. Re: AO-7 orbit count. (Paul Stoetzer) > 8. Re: AO-7 orbit count. (Alan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:39:44 -0500 > From: "Chris Bradley (AA0CB)" > To: ans at amsat.org, AMSAT BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-185 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins > Message-ID: > CWgMZjnaA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > AMSAT NEWS SERVICE > ANS-182 > > The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- > mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite > Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space > including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur > Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, > launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio > satellites. > > The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur > Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. > > Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: > ans-editor at amsat.org. > > In this edition: > > * Digital Communications Conference (DCC) Call for Papers > * Invitation to the 2018 NASA AAQ Workshop - September 7, 2018 > * China Microsatellite Symposium 2018 > * K4R Dry Tortugas EL84 Roving Trip on Schedule for July 6 > * Upcoming ARISS contacts > * AMSAT Rover Award Updates > * VUCC Awards-Endorsements for June 2018 > * WMPLOTA 7/2 EN74 EN75 EN84 EN85 Rove > * AMSAT-NA President to attend AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 > * AMSAT BOD Nominees > * Satellite Shorts > > SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-182.01 > ANS-182 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins > > AMSAT News Service Bulletin 182.01 > From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. > DATE JULY 1, 2018 > To All RADIO AMATEURS > BID: $ANS-185.01 > > Digital Communications Conference (DCC) Call for Papers > > Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the ARRL and TAPR > Digital Communications Conference (DCC) and publication in the > Conference Proceedings. Annual conference proceedings are published > by the ARRL. Presentation at the conference is not required for > publication. Submission of papers are due by July 31st, 2018 and > should > be submitted to > > Maty Weinberg, ARRL > 225 Main Street > Newington, CT 06111 > or via the Internet to > maty at arrl.org > > The ARRL and TAPR DCC is an international forum for radio amateurs > to meet, publish their work, and present new ideas and techniques. > This year, the DCC is in Albuquerque, New Mexico, September 14- > 16. Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange > ideas and learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories, > experimental results, and practical applications. Topics include, > but are > not limited to: > > ? Software Defined Radio (SDR) > ? Digital voice (D-Star, P25, WinDRM, FDMDV, DRMDV, G4GUO) > ? Digital satellite communications > ? Global position system > ? Precise Timing > ? Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) > ? Short messaging (a mode of APRS) > ? Digital Signal Processing (DSP) > ? HF digital modes > ? Internet interoperability with Amateur Radio networks > ? Spread spectrum > ? IEEE 802.11 and other Part 15 license-exempt systems adaptable for > A mateur Radio > ? Using TCP/IP networking over Amateur Radio > ? Mesh and peer to peer wireless networking > ? Emergency and Homeland Defense backup digital communications in > Amateur Radio > ? Updates on AX.25 and other wireless networking protocols > ? Topics that advanced the Amateur Radio art > > Go to https://tinyurl.com/y7wgm6vh to view the guidelines for paper > submissions > > [ANS thanks the TAPR PSR for the above information] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Invitation to the 2018 NASA AAQ Workshop - September 7, 2018 > > You are invited to participate in the 2018 NASA Academy of Aerospace > Quality > {AAQ) Workshop. This event will take place at Glenn Research Center > in > Cleveland, Ohio on Friday, September 7 from 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM. The > event > targets academics (faculty, researchers, students) involved with > space > related > activities such as cube sat, small sat, high altitude balloon, > rocket and > more. It is also designed for those wishing to be involved with > NASA space > related projects. The event will feature speakers and a poster > session. > > Travel stipends from NASA are available to attendees on a limited > basis and > will favor those giving a presentation or poster. There is no > registration > charge for attending the event but registration in advance is > required. > > Please register at the link below by July 31. > > http://spider2.eng.auburn.edu/AAQ/registration.html > > The NASA Academy of Aerospace Quality is an open access virtual > academy of > educational modules, lessons learned, standards, case studies and more > related to quality assurance for space related projects, especially > those > from academic based teams. The website is: > > http://aaq.auburn.edu > > Links to the agenda and materials from previous NASA AAQ Workshops > can be > found at the link below: > > http://aaq.eng.auburn.edu/events > > [ANS thanks Alice Smith and Jeff Smith for the above information] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > China Microsatellite Symposium 2018 > > The China Microsatellite Symposium(CMS2018), (www.microsatsymp.com) > will > be held > at Northwestern Polytechnical University, Xi'an China on 18th - 20th > November > 2018. The symposium includes keynote presentations and several > sessions > which > will focus on the design experience, scientific missions, launch > opportunities > and all new technologies about microsatellites. In addition, another > import > session, International CubeSat and Mission Contest will be held on > 20th > November > 2018, after which a free launch opportunity of 3U CubeSat or 1U > payload > capacity > will be awarded to the winner of the first prize. Participants can get > information and submit the works through the official website of our > contest: > www.cubesatcontest.org. > > The submission deadlines for the abstract of CMS2018 and work of > CubeSat > contest > are both August 31, 2018. You could submit abstract and get > information > on the > website www.microsatsymp.com > > Along with the symposium, there will also be a related exhibition, > during which > you can find the updated progress of CubeSat, launchers and other > related > technology. For exhibitors, you could also get information about > booth > on the > website. > > The event is supported by China National Space Administration, > International > Astronautical Federation, Chinese Society of Astronautics and Chinese > Institute > of Command and Control. > > If you have any questions, please contact service at microsatsymp.com. > > [ANS thanks Ray Nugent for the above information] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > K4R Dry Tortugas EL84 Roving Trip on Schedule for July 6 > > Robert KE4AL, Rich N4ESS, and Matthew, NJ4Y will be arriving on > Garden Key, EL84np in the Dry Tortugas mid-day on Friday July 6, > staying all day Saturday, and then leaving Sunday morning July 8. > > The team will be using the callsign K4R, and all logs will be > uploaded to LOTW after the trip. Paper cards will be available on > request via NJ4Y. They will also be able to tweet via a satellite > messenger from the island, to our public twitter account at > twitter.com/k4r_EL84 > > The K4R QRZ page is up to date with our info, as well as k4r2018.com. > Their goal is to work anyone within ~7500km who needs EL84 on satel- > lites. Check out the pass listing link at the above web pages and > let them know if you have a special schedule request from the outer > reaches of our range, especially in EU and South America. > > [ANS thanks Matthew, NJ4Y for the above information] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > UPCOMING ARISS CONTACTS > > Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL, direct via W9DWJ > > The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS > > The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT > > Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-07-02 15:35:42 UTC > > > > Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium, Bonn, Germany, direct via DL?IL > > The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be DP?ISS > > The scheduled astronaut is Alexander Gerst KF5ONO > > Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-03 08:32:16 UTC > > ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above > contacts. ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. > Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. > Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. > All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise > noted. > Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS > website and > not being able to get in. That has now been changed to > http://www.ariss.org/ > Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site. > Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the > ISS? > If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete > details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video. > > http://www.ariss-eu.org/ > If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able > to provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net > > ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored > over 100 > schools: > > Francesco IK?WGF with 132 > > Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 > > Gaston ON4WF with 123 > > Sergey RV3DR with 103 > The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of > date > webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are > additional > ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know. > > Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your > own > orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the > listed > time. > All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 > date and > time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS > The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2018-06-28 19:30 > UTC. > Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and > questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, > and > instructions for any contact that may be streamed live. > > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf > > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt > > Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1234. > Each school counts as 1 event. > Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 11821. > Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. > Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47. > > A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the > file. > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf > > Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. > > The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: > Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern > Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. > QSL information may be found at: > http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html > > ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS > The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-28 19:30 > UTC. > > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf > > Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes > showing > Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_cor > rection > .rtf > Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf > Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts > https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 > > Exp. 55 on orbit > > Drew Feustel > > Oleg Artemyev > > Ricky Arnold KE5DAU > > Exp. 56 on orbit > > Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT > > Alexander Gerst KF5ONO > > Sergei Propopev > > [ANS thanks Charlie Sufana, AJ9N for the above information] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > AMSAT Rover Award Updates > > AMSAT Director of Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO, says that > congratulations are in order for the newest Rover Award operators, > Chris, AA8CH, for earning award #024; and, Robert, WY7AA for earning > Award #025. > > The AMSAT Rover award is granted to stations who achieve a combined > 25 points using any combination of a list of achievements during > their roving operations via amateur radio satellites. All of these > combinations, including instructions of how to apply are posted at: > https://www.amsat.org/amsat-rover-award/ - or from the main page - > www.amsat.org --> Services --> Awards --> AMSAT Rover Award > > Examples of the point scoring include (access the Awards web page > for details of multiplier points, etc.): > > + 1 point for each grid square activated outside your home grid square > using a single-channel FM satellite transponder > + 2 points for each grid square activated outside your home grid square > using a linear (SSB/CW) satellite transponder. > + 3 points for each grid square activated outside your home grid square > using a digital mode satellite transponder. > + 1 additional point for added to each grid square score for activating > a state, province, or DX entity outside your home entities > + 5 points for for advertising your grid operation using an open and > public social media account, tagging @amsat or #amsat at least > 24 hours in advance of the activation. > + 5 points for photographing your grid operation and posting them > afterwards using an open and public social media account, tagging > @amsat > or #amsat. > + 10 points for activating a grid square while operating Maritime Mobile. > + 15 points for 15 points for documenting your grid activation in an > article published in the AMSAT Journal. > > AMSAT Rover Award winners to date include the following stations: > > Rover Call Date Issued > ===== ============ =========== > 001 AC0RA 02 Jan 2018 > 002 WD9EWK 05 Jan 2018 > 003 NJ4Y 08 Jan 2018 > 004 M0IDA 09 Jan 2018 > 005 KG5GJT 12 Jan 2018 > 006 EB1AO 18 Jan 2018 > 007 N7AGF 22 Jan 2018 > 008 N4YHC 29 Jan 2018 > 009 W0S 07 Feb 2018 > 010 KE0PBR 08 Feb 2018 > 011 K5IX 18 Feb 2018 > 012 AK4WQ 23 Feb 2018 > 013 WI7P 25 Feb 2018 > 014 K5ND 09 Mar 2018 > 015 N6UA 12 Mar 2018 > 016 N9IP 16 Mar 2018 > 017 N4UFO 04 Apr 2018 > 018 K7TAB 27 Apr 2018 > 019 K8BL 10 May 2018 > 020 AD0DX 16 May 2018 > 021 HB9WDF 28 May 2018 > 022 KE4AL 28 May 2018 > 023 KE9AJ 30 May 2018 > 024 AA8CH 27 Jun 2018 > 025 WY7AA 29 Jun 2018 > > [ANS thanks AMSAT Director of Contests and Awards, Bruce Paige, KK5DO > for the above information] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > WMPLOTA 7/2 EN74 EN75 EN84 EN85 Rove > > 7/2/18 > Objects AOS (U) LOS Period > 1. EN74 WM1432 Cadillac > XW-2D 00:01 00:09 > XW-2F 00:05 00:13 > SO-50 00:12 00:25 > > 2. EN74 WM2014 Houghton Lake > SO-50 01:54 02:03 (*Low Pass Attempt) > AO-92 02:03 02:13 > AO-73 02:32 02:38 (*Low Pass Attempt) > Falconsat-3 02:43 02:53 > FO-29 02:45 02:55 (*Low Pass Attempt) > AO-85 02:59 03:06 (*Low Pass Attempt) > AO-92 03:37 03:46 > > 3. EN74 WM5159 West Branch > XW-2B 11:57 12:07 > AO-07 12:06 12:22 > > 4. EN84 WM5376 Tawas > XW-2B 13:33 13:39 (*Low Pass Attempt) > AO-07 14:01 14:04 (*Low Pass Attempt) > XW-2A 14:13 14:22 > AO-73 14:15 14:26 > SO-50 14:27 14:38 > AO-92 15:05 15:14 > > 5. EN85 WM2358 Alpena > AO-92 16:39 16:47 > AO-91 17:16 17:30 > > 6. EN75 WM1542 Gaylord > AO-91 18:52 19:06 > AO-07 19:19 19:39 > > 7. EN75 WM2417 Petosky > XW-2C 21:49 21:58 > XW-2D 22:12 22:22 > XW-2F 22:15 22:25 > AO-85 22:15 22:28 > > 8. EN75 WM2100 Cheboygan > XW-2C 23:22 23:32 > AO-73 23:35 23:45 > XW-2D 23:47 23:56 > XW-2F 23:50 23:59 > AO-85 23:57 00:08 > > 7/3/18 EN75 Holiday Style Maybe > > Wish me luck on my first real rove, all stops are in a new VUCC > circle, > please work me if there is room. Manual tuning on linear birds, > please be > patient. > > [ANS thanks Andrew, KE8FZT for the above information] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > VUCC Awards-Endorsements for June 2018 > > Here are the endorsements and new VUCC Satellite > Awards issued by the ARRL for the period June 1, 2018 > through July 1, 2018. > Congratulations to all those who made the list this month! > > CALL 01 Jun 01 Jul > > N8HM 1054 1068 > AA5PK 1011 1042 > N9IP 609 618 > XE1AO 584 598 > WD9EWK 441 450 > AA9LC 299 416 > AF5CC 314 338 > VA3NNA 179 300 > KC9ELU 220 229 > W7JSD 189 215 > G0ABI 200 206 > KE8FZT 175 200 > PT2AP 172 200 > PS8ET 157 180 > KE0PBR New 122 > W3ARD New 119 > N3ROY New 102 > AD0DX New 101 > W5PFG (DM95) New 100 > W5PFG (EM12) New 100 > > If you find errors or omissions. please contact me off-list > at @.com > and I'll revise the announcement. > > This list was developed by comparing the ARRL .pdf > listings for June 1, 2018 and July 1, 2018. It's a visual > comparison so omissions are possible. Apologies if your > call was not mentioned. Thanks to all those who are > roving to grids that are rarely on the birds. They are > doing most of the work! > > > [ANS thanks Ron, W5RKN for the above information] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > AMSAT-NA President to attend AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2018 > > AMSAT-UK is very happy to announce that the dates of the next > AMSAT-UK Colloquium will be October 13-14, 2018. > > The AMSAT-UK Colloquium, incorporated into the RSGB Convention, > will take place at the Kents Hill Park Conference Centre, > Timbold Drive, Milton Keynes, MK7 6BZ. > > The AMSAT-UK Committee are pleased to announce that Joe Spier, > K6WAO will be presenting a paper entitled '50 Years of AMSAT and > Beyond' > > AMSAT-UK invites speakers, to cover topics about Amateur satellites, > CubeSats, Nanosats, Space, High Altitude Balloons and associated > activities, for this event. Those wishing to speak should contact > Dave, G4DPZ, dave at g4dpz dot me dot uk > > AMSAT-UK Colloquium web page: > https://amsat-uk.org/colloquium/ > > The schedule will be at > http://rsgb.org/main/about-us/rsgb-convention/rsgb-convention- > programme/ > > [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information] > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > FP/KV1J 3 - 17 July 2018 GN17 Includes Satellite Operation > > Eric, KV1J will be active on the Sats from the French island of > Miquelon > from 3 July through 17 July as FP/KV1J. This will be his 12th trip > to the > island. He mostly operate the low bands and 6 meters. When the WX is > good, > he will try to get outside and work the linear birds. Occasionally, > he plans > to also be on the FM birds using a pair of FT-817s and an Arrow > antenna. > > Most of the time he will be grid GN17. If he is on the main island > of St > Pierre or if he can borrow a car a drive to Langlade, he will be > GN16. The > island has limited internet. His email is kv1j (at) arrl.net > > More information at: http://www.kv1j.com/fp/July18.html > > [ANS thanks Eric KV1J / FP/KV1J for the above information and > wishes him > success on his trip] > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > AMSAT BOD Nominees > > The 2018 candidates, in alphabetical order by last name are: > > Tom Clark, K3IO > Mark Hammond, N8MH > Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > Bruce Paige, KK5DO > Peter Portanova, W2JV > > This year AMSAT-NA will be electing three voting members of the Board > of Directors. These will go to the three candidates receiving the > highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternates > chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. > > Ballots will be mailed to the AMSAT-NA membership by July 15, 2018 and > must be received at the AMSAT office by September 15, 2018 in order to > be counted. Those sent outside North America will go by air mail. If > you have not received your ballot package in a reasonable time for > your location, please contact the AMSAT office. Completed ballots > should be returned as promptly as possible, and those from outside > North America preferably by air mail. > > Election of Board members is both an obligation as well as an > opportunity by our membership to help shape the future direction of > AMSAT. Please take the time to review the candidate statements that > will accompany the ballot and determine who you wish to see on the > Board. You have the option to vote for up to three candidates. > > [ANS thanks Clayton, W5PFG for the above information and wishes him > success on his trip] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Satellite Shorts > > + Stations in the USA mid-west and Canada will have the opportunity > to hear the ISS on 145.800 MHz for a school contact with the Pearl > Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL. This will be a direct > contact between NA1SS and W9DWJ. The scheduled astronaut is Serena > Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT. The contact is planned for: Mon 2018-07-02 > at 15:35:42 UTC. (via ARISS) > > + AMSAT has discovered a pagination problem from printer error in the > May/June issue of the AMSAT Journal. Please take a look at the issue > you > just received and, if you see any missing or duplicate pages, let > Martha > know ASAP at the AMSAT office at martha at amsat.org. > > + Congrats to Sean Kutzko, KX9X, on winning the June QST Cover > Plaque for his article "Get on the Satellites for ARRL Field > Day." > > The article has been reprinted on the AMSAT website with the > ARRL's permission. Although Field Day is over for an another > Year Sean's article gives good operating tips for every pass. > Check it out! > https://www.amsat.org/get-on-the-satellites-for-field-day/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > /EX > > In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the > President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining > donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- > tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT > Office. > > Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership > at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students > enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- > dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. > Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership > information. > > 73, > This week's ANS Editor, > Chris Bradley, AA0CB > aa0cb at amsat dot org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 21:03:21 -0400 > From: Richard Lawn > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable operation from FN-21 > Message-ID: > DqP95bGFGNiTo9rYnpA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Thanks again to those who helped me to sort out my 5400B rotor issues. > Today I got the station up and running from Lakeville, Pa, FN21. I?ve > already made a number of contacts that verified everything is finally > working as it should. I?m using computer control of a single Arrow antenna > with a 9100. I hope to work as many of the 13 colonies as possible. > 73 and happy 4th > Rick, W2JAZ > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 23:41:37 -0500 > From: > To: "'AMSAT BB'" > Subject: [amsat-bb] Help for "Moon Day" > Message-ID: <00a701d411be$f86e65b0$e94b3110$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am looking to recruit additional volunteers from the AMSAT community in > North Texas, Central Texas or elsewhere, to help promote "Amateur Radio in > Space" to a large public STEM event. "Moon Day" at the Frontiers of Flight > Museum at Love Field in Dallas Texas on July 21, 2018 is the largest space > themed STEM event in Texas. Last year saw 1500 people attend the 6 hour > event. https://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day/ > > Again this year, I am heading an exhibit and satellite demos for AMSAT. We > have a table inside the Museum, (Alongside the Dallas Amateur Radio Club > Table), and a demonstration area outside. I will be setting up the outside > activities and hope to work as many satellite passes as possible during the > 10A-4P run of the show. > > I am looking for AMSAT people to both help with the inside table and also > with the outside demonstrations. Joe Spier has promised me that he will > send me the FOX "Engineering Model" but I am looking for additional > demonstration aids to illustrate satellite orbits and other aspects of > space > communications like various types of antennas. > > Being a STEM event, there will be many young people in attendance, (General > public as well as Boy and Girl Scouts), and they get a chance to earn a > STEM > patch by answering questions from exhibitors like US. Each year I do this, > I am also surprised by ho many Hams I talk to at the event who are either > inactive or have never experienced Amateur Satellites. > > We really need people and content for Moon Day so please consider spending > Saturday, July 21 with us. Contact me off list for more information. > N5hyp at arrl.net > > Oh by the way, next year, 2019, is the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 > moon landing. The Moon Day event is planning a big splash then and it > would > be really interesting to see a portable EME station as part of the mix. > That would generate a lot of interest I would suspect. My looking at moon > phase predictions for next year showed that I think they would be > favorable. > Keep that in the back of your mind and I will bring it up next year. > > Hope to see you at Moon Day, 2018. > > > Tom Schuessler, N5HYP > EM12ms > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 23:55:49 -0500 > From: > To: "'AMSAT BB'" > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. > Message-ID: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Now I see looking at SatPC32 that it shows AO-7 in the 99,625 range in > orbit > count. If memory serves me right though, doesn't the TLE orbit count roll > over at 99,999 (Just like a car odometer), so that would mean that we would > be coming up to the 200,000th rev is that right? If I am right, then this > will be coming up in less than a month. Does anybody know exactly when > that > will be? I am doing a presentation for a local club and would like to > throw > out that fact if I could. Also the day of that event would be good AO-7 > operating day I would think. > > 73 > > Tom Schuessler, N5HYP > EM12ms > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 02:47:28 -0500 > From: "Alan" > To: , "'AMSAT BB'" > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. > Message-ID: <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Tom, > > According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit 99999 > on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly > when. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > orbit > would > that > throw > < > <73 > < > < > < > < > <_______________________________________________ > AMSAT- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 09:03:23 -0500 > From: Tom Schuessler > To: APBIDDLE at MAILAPS.ORG > Cc: AMSAT BB > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > 12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a > diameter the second time already but it might have been hiring slower when > originally launched. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > > > > Tom, > > > > According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit > 99999 > > on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly > > when. > > > > 73, > > > > Alan > > WA4SCA > > > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > < > > > orbit > > roll > > would > > this > > > that > > > throw > > > > < > > <73 > > < > > > > < > > < > > < > > <_______________________________________________ > > > Opinions > > > > AMSAT- > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 10:07:46 -0400 > From: Paul Stoetzer > To: Tom Schuessler > Cc: AMSAT BB , Alan Biddle > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. > Message-ID: > < > CABzOSOr5XPbfxr-zACZ0gBuZ4OqMGtwi3_1Cu+QK9-Be4u7xFg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Tom, > > AO-7 was launched on November 14, 1974, that's 15,935 days ago. Multiplying > 15,935 by it's current mean motion of 12.53633150 revs/day gets you 199,766 > orbits. The orbit number is currently 99,630, so there is a bit of error > there. The mean motion should have very slightly decreased over the past 43 > years as the minimal atmospheric drag ever so slightly slows it down. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Tom Schuessler > wrote: > > > 12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a > > diameter the second time already but it might have been hiring slower > when > > originally launched. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit > > 99999 > > > on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out > exactly > > > when. > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Alan > > > WA4SCA > > > > > > > > > <-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > orbit > > > > roll > > > > would > > > > this > > > when > > > that > > > > > throw > > > AO-7 > > > > > < > > > <73 > > > < > > > > > > > < > > > < > > > < > > > <_______________________________________________ > > > > > > Opinions > > > > > of > > > AMSAT- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > > expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 09:21:38 -0500 > From: "Alan" > To: "'Tom Schuessler'" , > > Cc: 'AMSAT BB' > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. > Message-ID: <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Tom, > > It has in fact turned over once already. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > Sent from my Waring blender. > > > <-----Original Message----- > > < > <12.5?365?45 equals 205,312..5. Based on that you think it had Brolley a > < > < > <> On Jul 2, 2018, at 02:47, Alan wrote: > <> > <> Tom, > <> > <> According to the Keps, AO-7 makes 12.54 orbits per day. It will hit > 99999 > <> on the 30th or so. You can use the Preview function to find out exactly > <> when. > <> > <> 73, > <> > <> Alan > <> WA4SCA > <> > <> > <> <-----Original Message----- > <> <> <> <> > <> <> < > <> <> orbit > <> roll > <> <> this > <> <> that > <> <> throw > <> AO-7 > <> <> < > <> <73 > <> < > <> <> <> < > <> < > <> < > <> <_______________________________________________ > <> <> <> <> of > <> AMSAT- > <> <> <> <> <> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via amsat-bb at amsat.org. > AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons > worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ------------------------------ > > End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 13, Issue 233 > ***************************************** > From mccardelm at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 15:28:45 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 11:28:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-189 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-189 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * AMSAT Symposium Call For Papers - First Call * International Balloon Satellite Launch Challenge JULY 2018 * 145.825 MHz APRS Cubesats Enroute to ISS for August Deployment * China Microsatellite Symposium and International CubeSat and Mission Contest * "Moon Day" Volunteers Requested * University of Manitoba Wins the 4th CSDC! * AMSAT Field Day submissions are due Monday, July 9 * ISS SSTV Transmissions Continue * ARISS News * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-189.01 ANS-189 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 189.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. July 8, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-189.01 AMSAT Symposium Call For Papers - First Call This is the first call for papers for the 2018 AMSAT-NA Annual Meeting and Space Symposium to be held on the weekend of November 2 - 4 at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama. Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your presentation as soon as possible. The final copy must be submitted by October 15th for inclusion in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be sent to Dan Schultz at n8fgv(at)amsat.org [ANS thanks Dan N8FGV for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- International Balloon Satellite Launch Challenge JULY 2018 The 1st FREE OF COST International Balloon 'Satellite' Launch CHALLENGE is open across the Globe for participants below 21 years of age. Leveraging the power of technology, the State of Rajasthan in India has become the "Digitalization Hub of India". In the upcoming three- day technology carnival by the Government of Rajasthan- "Rajasthan Digifest 2018", held at Jaipur (known as the Pink city of the world) there will be a plethora of opportunities for everyone. From insightful workshops to varied exciting events, the fest would have a lot to offer. Taking a step further, Government of Rajasthan in collaboration with Space Kidz India, is organizing an "International Balloon Challenge" on the 25th & 26th July 2018. This challenge has been initiated to mark a tribute towards our former President and reputed Scientist Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam. Set with the motto- 'Dream. Imagine. Believe", it is an open competition for everyone aged below 21 years. The participant will have the opportunity to fly their payload 'near space' in a balloon FREE OF COST. Following are some notable points in respect to the challenge: ? The payload must fit inside a 1U Cube3 and the weight should be 500 grams including the battery. ? No hazardous chemicals are allowed. ? Biological experiments containing living micro-organisms shall not be allowed. ? Only Original Ideas will be entertained. ? Any findings of plagiarisms can get the participant eliminated and permanently banned from participating in the future. ? If approved by Space Kids India you can also come directly to the venue and fly your payload. ? Accommodation and food facility for teams coming directly will be provided for two days. Payload should reach our Chennai Office (Add. given below) on or before the 18th of July 2018. Space Kidz India, No.1-B, Nutech Narayana Apartments, 48, Thirumalai Pillai Road, T.Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India Space Kidz India and Government of Rajasthan invites students for this exciting and adventurous 'International Balloon Challenge' to be held on 25th & 26th July 2018. The competition not only looks inspiring & challenging, but will help the participants to meet like- minded people from different nook and corner of the world uniting together with a strong competitive edge. It's time to help our younger generation to showcase their skills and let their dreams fly high! Our Contacts for further clarification: Mr. Rifath +919518535615 shaarookrsr at live.com Mr. Vijay +917708574647 vijaypp01 at gmail.com Mr. Priyadharshan +918220333449 prabhupriyadharshan at gmail.com Mr. Tanishq +919940515800 forutanishq at gmail.com Mr. Yagna +919912752744 yagnasai7 at gmail.com Dr. Srimathy +914448535376 spacekidzindia at gmail.com [ANS thanks SpaceKidz India Team for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 145.825 MHz APRS Cubesats Enroute to ISS for August Deployment The June 29, 2018 SpaceX Falcon 9 launch of the Dragon cargo capsule included cubesats of the BIRDS-2 satellite constellation. All cubesats in the BIRDS-2 constellation MAYA-1, BHUTAN-1 and UiTMSAT-1 have identical designs and utilize the same radio frequencies. While independently made, the operation and control of the three cubesats will be shared by the three teams after they are released from the ISS early in August. They will be operational for six months. "The three will form a constellation, orbiting the earth from different places. This will provide the countries more opportun- ities to make measurements and run experiments, than just with using one cubesat," explained Joel Joseph Marciano Jr., manager of the PHL-Microsat program in the Philippines. The primary mission of BIRDS-2 CubeSat constellation is to provide digital message relay service to the amateur radio community by means of an APRS digipeater onboard. The APRS digipeater onboard BIRDS-2 CubeSats will use 145.825 MHz for both receive and transmit which isa standard configurations used by other satellites such as ARISS and LAPAN-A2. Another mission of the BIRDS-2 CubeSat constellation is to demonstrate a store-and-forward (S&F) system. In this mission, their goal is to investigate technical challenges through ex- periments on appropriate data format, multiple access scheme, file-handling protocol while complying with limited operational time and power constraints. The BIRDS-2 CubeSat S&F system will collect data from remote ground sensors, store them onboard and download them to the different BIRDS-2 ground stations network. Additional experiments will use the BIRDS-2 CubeSat constellation to enhance research and experiment in the fields of single latch-up event detection, magnetic field measurements using a COTS aniso- tropic magnetometer, and flight testing of a COTS GPS chip which can be used for future CubeSat missions if proven effective. Stu- dents will also explore a passive attitude stabilization mechanism consisting of magnets and hysteresis dampers for proper orientation of camera on a CubeSat. All measurements and image data will be shared with the public on BIRDS-2 project website. Moveover, BIRDS-2 CubeSat constellation will expand amateur radio communication experiment on the operation of CubeSat constellation via a network of UHF/VHF amateur radio ground stations (started in the BIRDS-1 CubeSat constellation project). BIRDS-2 hopes to promote awareness of amateur radio communication and amateur satellites among the general public and students, especially in the participating nations of BIRDS-2 Project: Bhutan, Malaysia, Philippines, and Japan. The IARU has coordinated 437.375 MHz CW beacon for a downlink and 145.825 MHz for the APRS experiment. Philippine news coverage of MAYA-1 can be accessed at: https://tinyurl.com/ANS189-MAYA-1 http://tinyurl.com/ANS-BIRDS2-cubesats Visit the BIRDS-2 website at: http://birds2.birds-project.com/ [ANS thanks the BIRDS-2 Project, Kyushu Institute of Technology and the IARU for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- China Microsatellite Symposium and International CubeSat and Mission Contest The China Microsatellite Symposium(CMS2018), (www.microsatsymp.com) will be held at Northwestern Polytechnical University, Xi?an China on 18th ? 20th November 2018. The symposium includes keynote presentations and several sessions which will focus on the design experience, scientific missions, launch opportunities and all new technologies about microsatellites. International CubeSat and Mission Contest will be held on 20th November 2018, after which a free launch opportunity of 3U CubeSat or 1U payload capacity (provided by Expace Technology Co., Ltd.) will be awarded to the winner of the first prize. Participants can get information and submit the works through the official website of our contest: www.cubesatcontest.org. The submission deadlines for the abstract of CMS2018 and work of CubeSat contest are both August 31, 2018. The papers accepted will be indexed by China National Knowledge Infrastructure (CNKI) and the proceedings of the symposium will be submitted to IEEE Xplore, some of the excellent papers will be recommended for publication in the AEROSPACE CHINA. You could submit abstract and get information on the website www.microsatsymp.com Along with the symposium, there will also be a related exhibition, during which you can find the updated progress of CubeSat, launchers and other related technology. For exhibitors, you could also get information about booth on the website. The event is supported by China National Space Administration, International Astronautical Federation, Chinese Society of Astronautics and Chinese Institute of Command and Control. Please forward this information to your colleagues and anyone that may be interested in this symposium. You could also find the brochures in the attachment. On behalf of the organizing committee of the China Microsatellite Symposium, we sincerely invite you to attend the symposium. If you have any questions, please contact us! Dr. Yu Xiaozhou, Mr.Pang Weijian Email: service (at) microsatsymp.com: pangwj (at) mail.nwpu.edu.cn Tel: +86 18291419293 National United Engineering Laboratory of Microsatellite Technology and Application,Northwestern Polytechnical University 127 Youyi Xilu, Xi'an, ShaanXi Province, China Phone:008629 88492103 Fax:008629 88492103 Mobile:008615902909698 [ANS thanks Yuxiao Zhou (via cubesat.org) for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Moon Day" Volunteers Requested Tom Schuessler, N5HYP, is looking to recruit additional volunteers from the AMSAT community in North Texas, Central Texas or elsewhere, to help promote "Amateur Radio in Space" to a large public STEM event. "Moon Day" at the Frontiers of Flight Museum at Love Field in Dallas Texas on July 21, 2018 is the largest space themed STEM event in Texas. Last year saw 1500 people attend the 6 hour event. https://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day/ Again this year, Tom Schuessler will be heading an exhibit and satellite demos for AMSAT. They will have a table inside the Museum, (Alongside the Dallas Amateur Radio Club Table), and a demonstration area outside. I will be setting up the outside activities and hope to work as many satellite passes as possible during the 10A-4P run of the show. I'm looking for AMSAT people to both help with the inside table and also with the outside demonstrations. Joe Spier has promised me that he will send me the FOX "Engineering Model" but I am looking for additional demonstration aids to illustrate satellite orbits and other aspects of space communications like various types of antennas. Being a STEM event, there will be many young people in attendance, (General public as well as Boy and Girl Scouts), and they get a chance to earn a STEM patch by answering questions from exhibitors like US. We really need people and content for Moon Day so please consider spending Saturday, July 21 with us. Contact Tom Schuessler for more information. N5hyp (at) arrl.net Tom also notes that next year, 2019, is the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing. The Moon Day event is planning a big splash. Looking at moon phase predictions for next year indicates that conditions would be favorable for a portable EME station as part of the mix. We will be looking for volunteers to assist this lofty goal. Keep that in the back of your mind and I will bring it up next year. [ANS thanks Tom N5HYP for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- University of Manitoba Wins the 4th CSDC! Congratulations to the University of Manitoba team, which earned First Place in this fourth offering of the Canadian Satellite Design Challenge! The CSDC launch simulation testing took place at the Canadian Space Agency's David Florida Laboratory (DFL) in Ottawa this past week, concluding yesterday. In all, a total of nine teams had the opportunity to fully test all three axes of their cubesats - two more than previously achieved. As the competition drew to a close, the judges (and several of the DFL employees) were impressed by the level of design maturity and understanding, preparedness, and professionalism of the UofM team throughout the test campaign. This is the first CSDC win for the UofM, which has been a strong and enthusiastic participant in every CSDC since its inception. Not everything went perfectly, however: an accelerometer - a sensor which is attached to record the accelerations at a particular location - fell off during the vibration test, and may have shorted or damaged a circuit board that was underneath it. The judges' deliberations for second and third place were far more difficult, with five teams being considered. This is a testament to the high level of spacecraft engineering capability which has developed at Canadian universities over the course of these past four competitions - especially considering that, in the first CSDC, only three teams were able to complete their cubesats in time for testing. Second place honours were given to the University of Victoria, and Concordia University was third. The Educational Outreach Award was also presented, to the University of Alberta. Their team developed several modules of age-specific educational materials for the presentations which they gave to elementary and secondary schools. Honourable mentions went to: Simon Fraser University (participating for their first time in the CSDC) for their efforts which reached an estimated 3,500 people over the course of this offering; and, the University of Manitoba, whose educational outreach efforts have been admirable since the inception of the CSDC (and whose Educational Outreach efforts in the first CSDC prompted the creation of the award). The CSDC Management Society (CSCDMS), the not-for-profit organisation which organises the CSDC, would like to again thank the Canadian Space Agency's David Florida Laboratory for allowing us the use of the facility, and for being so accommodating to us over this past week. Additionally, as this concludes the fourth offering of the competition, the CSDCMS would also like to thank the many sponsors, judges, and companies which have all contributed to make the CSDC a success. Please see this article on our web page for more photos of the testing campaign. And, stay tuned for Selfie-Sat in CSDC-5, which will begin in September. About the CSDCMS: The Canadian Satellite Design Challenge Management Society is a federally-incorporated not-for-profit organisation co-registered in British Columbia and headquartered in Vancouver. It is managed and operated by a volunteer Board of Directors. For more information on the Canadian Satellite Design Challenge or the CSDCMS, please visit our website at www.csdcms.ca, or contact: Larry Reeves CSDCMS President LReeves (at) CSDCMS.ca Ph: +1 778-988-6343 [ANS thanks the CSDCMS for the above information] -------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Field Day submissions are due Monday, July 9 A quick reminder. AMSAT Field Day submissions are due Monday, July 9, 2018 by 11:59 PM Central Time. This is earlier than the ARRL due date. You will get a reply email that your submission was received. email submissions to: kk5do (at) amsat.org or kk5do (at) arrl.net. The Satellite Summary Sheet should be used for submission of the AMSAT Field Day competition and be received by KK5DO by 11:59 P.M. CDT, Monday, July 9, 2018. Complete rules and criteria can be found at: https://www.amsat.org/field-day/ [ANS thanks Bruce KK5DO for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ISS SSTV Transmissions Continue SSTV transmissions from the Russian Service module on the International Space Station started June 29 on 145.800 MHz FM and they are still continuing There may well be further transmissions up until July 13 when the equipment being used for the SSTV will be required for a school contact. David Boult G7HCE in Exeter noted that some adjustments have been made by the cosmonauts and the images are now being sent uncropped. For the first week the edges of the pictures were missing. The images commemorate the various satellites that were hand- deployed from the ISS. These will include the first satellite deployment from ISS: Suitsat-1/Radioskaf-1 which was developed by ARISS and deployed in February 2006. The transmissions are being made on 145.800 MHz FM using the PD-120 SSTV mode. Note the ISS transmissions use the 5 kHz deviation FM standard rather than the narrow 2.5 kHz used in Europe. If your transceiver has selectable FM filters try using the wider filter. Handheld transceivers generally have a single wide filter fitted as standard and you should get good results outdoors using just a 1/4 wave whip antenna. The ISS Fan Club site will show you when the space station is in range http://www.issfanclub.com/ ISS SSTV information and links at https://amsat-uk.org/beginners/iss-sstv/ [ANS thanks Southgate ARN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Recent Successful ARISS Contacts + 2018-06-27 10:32 UTC between Alexander Gerst KF5ONO using callsign DP?ISS and Werner-Heisenberg-Gymnasium, Leverkusen, Germany. Contact was direct via DL?IL. ARISS Mentor was Peter IN3GHZ. + 2018-06-27 10:32 UTC between ASTRONAUT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO, using callsign DP?ISS, and Schickhardt-Gymnasium, Herrenberg, Germany, contact was direct via DL?SGH ARISS Mentor was Peter IN3GHZ. + 2018-07-02 15:35 UTC between Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT, using ISS callsign NA1SS and Pearl Technology STEM Academy, Peoria Heights, IL, contact direct via W9DWJ. ARISS Mentor was Dave AA4KN. + 2018-07-03 08:32 UTC bewtween Alexander Gerst KF5ONO, using ISS callsign DP?ISS and Kardinal-Frings-Gymnasium, Bonn, Germany, contact was direct via DL?IL. ARISS Mentor was Peter IN3GHZ. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule Space Port Area Conference for Educators (SPACE), Kennedy Space Center, FL (CASIS#4). Contact is telebridge via W6SRJ. The ISS callsign is yet to be determined. The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU. Contact is a go for: Fri 2018-07-13 14:00:22 UTC. [ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + 6U CubeSat Design Specification Rev 1.0 - Released The 6U CubeSat Design Standard has now been fully reviewed and is available for download as Revision 1.0. Please visit cubesat.org to view and download the 6U CDS. [ANS thanks The CubeSat Team at Cal Poly, SLO for the above information] + Interview about ISS SSTV on local TV station James M0JFP of the Chertsey Radio Club was interviewed by That's Surrey TV, about the recent Slow Scan TV transmissions from the International Space Station The images transmitted commemorated the various satellites that had been hand-deployed from the ISS. Watch the video at https://tinyurl.com/ANS189-SurreyTV ISS SSTV https://amsat-uk.org/2018/06/27/receive-sstv-from-space/ That's TV Surrey http://www.thats.tv/surrey/ https://twitter.com/ThatsSurreyTV [ANS thanks Southgate ARN for the above information] + Software for STEM high altitude balloon flight projects is posted in the article at: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/pytrack-skygate-hab-software/ [ANS thanks AMSAT-UK via twitter for the above information.] + CalPoly 2018 Cubesat Developers Workshop Presentations Available 2018 PRESENTATIONS ARE NOW AVAILABLE TO VIEW! YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCENz0fNHsDR8Kz3jM6C_VWw PDF Presentations: http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~workshop/archive/2018/ [ANS thanks cubesat.org for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM aa8em at amsat dot org From joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 18:41:21 2018 From: joanne.k9jkm at gmail.com (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 13:41:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nunavut and Bermuda Satellite Operating Announcements Message-ID: <5b425ad1.1c69fb81.e8ebe.d80a@mx.google.com> Here are some operation announcements which fall in between the usual news cycle ... NA-008. (Zone 2) Pierre/VE3KTB will once again active from the Eureka Weather station and the Eureka Amateur Radio Club [probably the most northerly located amateur radio club in the world] from Eureka, Nunavut (NA-008), as VY0ERC between July 8-21st. The suggested bands are 40 and 20 meters, as well as FM satellites, using SSB, the Digital modes and very slow CW. Activity will be limited to his spare time. QSL via M0OXO, OQRS or direct. VP9, BERMUDA. Steve, KU9C, will once again be active as KU9C/VP9 from Ed, VP9GE's, QTH between July 11-17th. During the IARU HF Championship he will operate as VP9HQ/RSB, the VP9 IARU Headquarters station. Outside of the contest look for activity on all HF bands (especially the 30/17/12m bands) as well as 6 meters, the SO-50/AO-85 FM satellites, and trying some FT8 along with enjoying the weather. QSL VP9HQ and the KU9C/VP9 callsigns to his home callsign. Thanks to Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1371 -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9jkm at amsat.org From jim at milnet.uk.net Sun Jul 8 20:43:45 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 21:43:45 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube Mode change Message-ID: Hi folks, I have just changed the sat into education mode (full power beacon in sunlight, low power beacon plus transponder on in darkness). 73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team. From wb3csy at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 23:40:05 2018 From: wb3csy at gmail.com (Rick Walter) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 19:40:05 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nunavut and Bermuda Satellite Operating Announcements In-Reply-To: <5b425ad1.1c69fb81.e8ebe.d80a@mx.google.com> References: <5b425ad1.1c69fb81.e8ebe.d80a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Joanne, instead of: The suggested bands are 40 and 20 meters, as well as FM satellites, using SSB, the Digital modes and very slow CW. Activity will be limited to his spare time. QSL via M0OXO, OQRS or direct. Since we are not supposed to be using SSB, CW, or digital modes on the FM birds, should it read: The suggested bands are 40 and 20 meters, using SSB, the Digital modes and very slow CW, as well as FM satellites. Activity will be limited to his spare time. QSL via M0OXO, OQRS or direct? Rick WB3CSY "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein > From dave at druidnetworks.com Mon Jul 9 04:03:04 2018 From: dave at druidnetworks.com (David Swanson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 23:03:04 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Complete Satellite Antenna System For Sale Message-ID: I've decided to part with my home station and go back to being a fully portable operator for the foreseeable future. So here's what I got: 145mhz Innovantenna 5 Element X-Pol 435mhz Innovantenna 10 Element X-Pol (Factory New, just unboxed, inventoried and repackaged). 2x Innovantenna 2m Balun 2x Innovantenna 70cm Balun 2x Comet 4160N Dupelxers 2x C2G N-Male to N-Male Barrel Connector 2x Tohtsu CX520D Relays, with Dissapation Capacitor Installed. 2x 12 Gauge Wires to Relays with Soldered Ends 4x Andrew CNT-400 Short Jumpers (2' to 4') with Amphenol N-Male Connectors for between Baluns and Relays. 2x DXE Basic Saddle Clamps for Mounting Box 1x DXE Heavy Duty Saddle Clamp for 145mhz X-Pol boom. $550 + Shipping (Guessing it will be about $75 anywhere in the lower 48, will get an exact quote if A few notes - the 145mhz X-Pol was outside for about 10 months at my QTH (Just long enough for me to get my 488 finished) as was an old 435mhz beam, but I damaged part of the 435mhz during disassembly, therefore I ordered replacement 435 metal and it is all factory new never exposed to the weather. All the relays and duplexers were inside weatherproof housings on the Mast and all in good working order. I also drilled holes for a heavy duty DXE saddle clamp on the 2m boom because I had some trouble with the factory saddle clamp slipping on my fiberglass cross beam. There's no slipping now. Here's a picture of everything all spread out on the shop floor: http://druidnetworks.com/xpol.jpg At this time I'm not interested in any trades, and I'm not interested in splitting what I have listed up. Shipping on this is gonna be kinda pricey so if you're anywhere within about 500 miles or so of EM34 I'm willing to meet halfway. Any questions or serious inquiries email me at dave at druidnetworks.com. 73! -Dave, KG5CCI From tjschuessler at verizon.net Mon Jul 9 04:21:17 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 23:21:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Linear Satellite demonstration Wednesday Evening, July 11th. Message-ID: <008301d4173c$489bbe70$d9d33b50$@verizon.net> I will be doing a satellite talk and demo this coming Wednesday evening, July 11th, for the Euless Texas Amateur Radio Club. The pass for the demo will be XW-2A at 8:21 CDT which is 0121Z 12-July. A good east coast pass but not so good for the Rockies and west. The demo will be somewhat ambitious for me, with RX on a FunCube Dongle Pro+ run by HDSDR and controlled by SatPC32. The uplink radio will by my FT847. We will use the Euless club call W5EUL for any contacts. Might be the first time that their club call has been used on satellite, I don't know. Please look for me probably near the center of the passband and give us a shout. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms From sehaque at tekterrain.com Mon Jul 9 11:38:49 2018 From: sehaque at tekterrain.com (Samudra Haque [TTLLC]) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:38:49 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8998dfbb21fe4f45a4b5251c601e7b0d@tekterrain.com> Well, it is a well known that in some universes a double negative results in a positive result. I'm interested in taking an attempt at imaging OSCAR satellites. Any tips from the community for say, AO-7, using an optical telescope and a DSLR mounted at its focus? Samudra N3RDX. -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 8:07 PM To: APBIDDLE at MAILAPS.ORG; 'Ray Hoad' ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. With any luck, AO-7 will outlive (or perhaps it already has) the IBM punch card that caused the whole 5-digit thing in the first place. Of the constants in the universe, the first one is 42, immediately followed by either 72 or 80, depending on your background. We apparently had programmers define the KEPs format, as both lines are 71 characters long... :) Greg KO6TH (For source code, columns 73-80 were reserved for sequence numbers, so that when you dropped your deck, the cards could be reassembled in the proper order.) Alan wrote: > Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI) once observed that AO-7 was the only > amateur satellite known to have suffered two catastrophic failures, > thereby returning it to service. Hi HI > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way using any information contained within this communication. If you have received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. From mccardelm at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 13:24:26 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:24:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2EC67895-A72B-4F28-896D-79A06ECF5050@gmail.com> Alan, So two wrongs make it right? Or if at first you don?t succeed fail, fail again? Hi hi EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Alan wrote: > > Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI) once observed that AO-7 was the only amateur satellite known to have suffered two catastrophic failures, thereby returning it to service. Hi HI > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mccardelm at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 13:34:43 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:34:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <2EC67895-A72B-4F28-896D-79A06ECF5050@gmail.com> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> <2EC67895-A72B-4F28-896D-79A06ECF5050@gmail.com> Message-ID: Samudra, You might ask the folks at seesat-l http://www.satobs.org/seesat/seesatindex.html It seems to me that I saw paper on viewing the early OSCARs. Either in an early newsletter or Symposium proceeding. If I can find it I?ll post it. 73 EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2018, at 9:24 AM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: > > Alan, > So two wrongs make it right? > Or if at first you don?t succeed fail, fail again? > Hi hi > EMike > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 6, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Alan wrote: >> >> Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI) once observed that AO-7 was the only amateur satellite known to have suffered two catastrophic failures, thereby returning it to service. Hi HI >> >> 73, >> >> Alan >> WA4SCA >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 13:41:49 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 08:41:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <2EC67895-A72B-4F28-896D-79A06ECF5050@gmail.com> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> <2EC67895-A72B-4F28-896D-79A06ECF5050@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201d4178a$96d73940$c485abc0$@gmail.com> EMike, More a case that if you have one problem, there may be no solution, but if you have multiple problems they may solve each other. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- ; amsat-bb at amsat.org On Jul 6, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Alan wrote: <> <> Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI) once observed that AO-7 was the only amateur <> 73, <> <> Alan <> WA4SCA <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From WB4SON at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 13:47:13 2018 From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:47:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: <8998dfbb21fe4f45a4b5251c601e7b0d@tekterrain.com> References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> <8998dfbb21fe4f45a4b5251c601e7b0d@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: Hum, Don't know what the thought of viewing AO-7 caught my attention, but it did. So I did some quick math: In round numbers AO-7 is about 0.06 arc seconds across (1450 KM orbit, 0.4 meters diameter). That's the theoretical resolving power of a telescope with a 16,000mm focal length and magnification of about 500, constructed with perfect optics and operated in a vacuum. So I wouldn't hold my breath thinking you can observe it with a ground based telescope. But maybe as a point of light? N2YO.com doesn't even list a magnitude for visible passes. 73, Bob, WB4SON On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] < sehaque at tekterrain.com> wrote: > Well, it is a well known that in some universes a double negative results > in a positive result. I'm interested in taking an attempt at imaging OSCAR > satellites. Any tips from the community for say, AO-7, using an optical > telescope and a DSLR mounted at its focus? > > Samudra N3RDX. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 8:07 PM > To: APBIDDLE at MAILAPS.ORG; 'Ray Hoad' ; > amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. > > With any luck, AO-7 will outlive (or perhaps it already has) the IBM punch > card that caused the whole 5-digit thing in the first place. Of the > constants in the universe, the first one is 42, immediately followed by > either 72 or 80, depending on your background. We apparently had > programmers define the KEPs format, as both lines are 71 characters long... > :) > > Greg KO6TH > > (For source code, columns 73-80 were reserved for sequence numbers, so > that when you dropped your deck, the cards could be reassembled in the > proper order.) > > > Alan wrote: > > Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI) once observed that AO-7 was the only > > amateur satellite known to have suffered two catastrophic failures, > > thereby returning it to service. Hi HI > > > > 73, > > > > Alan > > WA4SCA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to > all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be > privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named > addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly > prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way > using any information contained within this communication. If you have > received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone > or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of > transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own > virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability > for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ko6th.greg at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 17:01:51 2018 From: ko6th.greg at gmail.com (Greg D) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 10:01:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. In-Reply-To: References: <00bb01d411c0$f2a2b710$d7e82530$@verizon.net> <000401d411d8$eda9bfc0$c8fd3f40$@gmail.com> <000201d4120f$fdeb1b40$f9c151c0$@gmail.com> <000001d41229$9beff360$d3cfda20$@gmail.com> <002801d41568$fb7f40f0$f27dc2d0$@mypbmail.com> <000001d41570$fba32300$f2e96900$@gmail.com> <8998dfbb21fe4f45a4b5251c601e7b0d@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: <6d813eb5-f1ef-5e96-2c6a-757a84184df2@gmail.com> Besides seeing the satellite - I've seen several zip through the field of view in my telescope - tracking the object, even if you knew it was coming (and which one it actually was), would be very difficult. Way too fast for regular astronomical telescope mounts. And, yes, point of light is all you'd get. We have had (very) limited success with doing a manual track of the ISS, during a visible pass. We used a Dobsonian scope with a Telrad, and a low magnification eyepiece. One person does the tracking, arm wrapped around the OTA, while the second person tries to look through the eyepiece to see the Station, as the whole thing is moving around. Amazing when it works, but requires practice and some luck. Greg KO6TH Bob wrote: > Hum, > > Don't know what the thought of viewing AO-7 caught my attention, but it > did. So I did some quick math: > > In round numbers AO-7 is about 0.06 arc seconds across (1450 KM orbit, 0.4 > meters diameter). That's the theoretical resolving power of a telescope > with a 16,000mm focal length and magnification of about 500, constructed > with perfect optics and operated in a vacuum. So I wouldn't hold my breath > thinking you can observe it with a ground based telescope. > > But maybe as a point of light? N2YO.com doesn't even list a magnitude for > visible passes. > > 73, Bob, WB4SON > > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] < > sehaque at tekterrain.com> wrote: > >> Well, it is a well known that in some universes a double negative results >> in a positive result. I'm interested in taking an attempt at imaging OSCAR >> satellites. Any tips from the community for say, AO-7, using an optical >> telescope and a DSLR mounted at its focus? >> >> Samudra N3RDX. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Greg D >> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 8:07 PM >> To: APBIDDLE at MAILAPS.ORG; 'Ray Hoad' ; >> amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 orbit count. >> >> With any luck, AO-7 will outlive (or perhaps it already has) the IBM punch >> card that caused the whole 5-digit thing in the first place. Of the >> constants in the universe, the first one is 42, immediately followed by >> either 72 or 80, depending on your background. We apparently had >> programmers define the KEPs format, as both lines are 71 characters long... >> :) >> >> Greg KO6TH >> >> (For source code, columns 73-80 were reserved for sequence numbers, so >> that when you dropped your deck, the cards could be reassembled in the >> proper order.) >> >> >> Alan wrote: >>> Tom Clark, K3IO (ex-W3IWI) once observed that AO-7 was the only >>> amateur satellite known to have suffered two catastrophic failures, >>> thereby returning it to service. Hi HI >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Alan >>> WA4SCA >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect >> the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to >> all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official >> views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be >> privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named >> addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly >> prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way >> using any information contained within this communication. If you have >> received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone >> or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of >> transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own >> virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability >> for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Mon Jul 9 19:05:28 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 15:05:28 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 images Message-ID: <032c01d417b7$cd052ef0$670f8cd0$@mindspring.com> All, This Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday we will be enabling the camera on AO-92 on the morning passes over the US east coast. This is in support of two different educational programs running this week. Please help us copy images by enabling Auto or High Speed mode in FoxTLM and enabling data to be uploaded to the server. Camera mode runs for 45 minutes each time, so this will be an opportunity for Central and South America as well. Images will appear at http://www.amsat.org/tlm/fox1d/images/ in near-real time. Thanks for your cooperation. 73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations From kx9x at yahoo.com Mon Jul 9 19:47:15 2018 From: kx9x at yahoo.com (Sean K.) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 19:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] KX9X Birthday Rove Through VT & NH This Weekend References: <829412178.1582978.1531165635734.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <829412178.1582978.1531165635734@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all- I'll be hitting the road this weekend, celebrating my birthday by driving through Vermont and New Hampshire. This will be a holiday-style trip with no real agenda, taking my time. I won't be on every pass, but I'll be on several. I'll be on SSB/FM passes. Saturday 7/14: CT/MA/VT: FN31/32/33/34/44/45Will spend the night just south of the FN44/45 grid line and will make a point of being on to hand out FN45 from ~2100z Saturday to ~1300z Sunday.? Sunday 7/15: VT/NH/MA/CT: FN45/44/43/42/31There is a chance I'll be on from FN41 Rhode Island as well. Will be on SSB and FM. Follow me on Twitter at @seankutzko for real-time pass info. Hope to work you this weekend! Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X From k9jkm at comcast.net Mon Jul 9 22:25:49 2018 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne Maenpaa) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 17:25:49 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-190 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - AMSAT-NA Files Comments on FCC Docket Message-ID: <005601d417d3$ca857830$5f906890$@net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE SPECIAL BULLETIN ANS-190.01 In this Special Bulletin: * AMSAT-NA Files Comments on FCC Docket #18-86 Small Satellite Licensing Procedures SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-190.01 ANS-190 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin 190.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE July 9, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-190.01 On July 9, 2018, AMSAT filed comments with the Federal Communications Commission on their Notice of Proposed Rulemaking In the Matter of Streamlining Licensing Procedures for Small Satellites (International Bureau Docket #18-86). AMSAT's comments as filed can be found at: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filing/10709067911864 (A copy of AMSAT's comments document can be accessed on the ECFS page, using the Document Download link) In the comments, AMSAT reviewed the significant contributions made by the organization and the amateur radio community. The comments note that the many scientific and technological achievements made by AMSAT satellites directly led to many groups, including government, non-profit, and commercial organizations becoming interested in developing small satellites of their own. AMSAT also discussed the suitability of authorizing certain satellites built by universities and non-profit organizations in the amateur satellite service and expressed opposition to satellites licensed as experimental under Part 5 of the Commission's regulations operating in the amateur satellite service bands. Interested parties may file reply comments on or before August 7, 2018. [ANS thanks AMSAT Executive Vice-President, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above information] /EX From aj9n at aol.com Tue Jul 10 02:14:23 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:14:23 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-10 02:00 UTC Message-ID: <16481f7e2f8-179e-1413c@webjas-vad082.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-10 02:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Space Port Area Conference for Educators (SPACE), Kennedy Space Center, FL (CASIS#4), telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Fri 2018-07-13 14:00:22 UTC 42 deg ? Essex Heights Primary School, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, telebridge via VK4KHZ?(***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT (***) Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-17 08:24:52 UTC 85 deg (***) ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-10 02:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1236. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1184. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-28 19:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From kb2mjeff at att.net Tue Jul 10 10:32:26 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 06:32:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue Message-ID: <31316C218F6E48E3A57840958A070DA5@kb2m4PC> I?m having a problem with my RAS rotor at my winter home. When I turned it on yesterday, after an absence of about 2 months the elevation went into a complete backflip when powered up, and is jammed against the roof with an elevation reading of 195 degrees on the control box. I?m at my Florida home for just a few weeks to do some fishing, so before starting to work on it to maybe speed up the repair process a bit I?m asking here if anyone else had this problem. When the roof dries off I plan on going up there and remove the antennas before trying to move the rotor, to diagnose. Right now the azimuth will turn, but the elevation is stuck, it wont move up or down. I?m hoping it is just jammed into the roof, once unstuck hopefully all it would need is a re-calibration. Thanks for any useful information.... 73 Jeff kb2m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Tue Jul 10 14:47:06 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 10:47:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Space Port Area Conference for Educators (SPACE), Kennedy Space Center, FL Message-ID: <2109F541426B4AF4ABD9784DF41ADE7B@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned at the Space Port Area Conference for Educators (SPACE), Kennedy Space Center, FL with participating students from Burns Science and Technology Charter School in Oak Hill, FL. on 13 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 14:00 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be audible over the west coast of the U.S. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Burns Science and Technology Charter School is a K-8 public charter school operating within the Volusia County School District. It is a tuition free school, with an open admission policy. It is located in a rural area in the town of Oak Hill, Florida. The school is a STEM school, offering core curriculum, with emphasis on science, technology, and 21st century skills. The school has a strong belief that in order to prepare students for success in the 21st century, today's learners must be able to think critically and creatively, work collaboratively, and master an ever-growing arena of skills. The school has 450 students, 25 classroom teachers, seven special area teachers, and two teaching assistants. The school's mission is to cultivate learners and leaders who are inspired, able, and prepared to make a positive difference in the world. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. What is the most valuable item you've ever found or discovered in space? 2. What experiments or items do you think would best help astronauts aboard the Orion spacecraft on the trip to Mars? 3. Do they allow you to bring any lucky charms aboard the ISS? What did or would you bring as your lucky charm? 4. In 12 years, do you think you might get to go to Mars in the Orion MPCV for EM-2? 5. What do you want to do as soon as you get back home? 6. How does CIMON stabilize in antigravity? And, can CIMON be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot for games? 7. Does CIMON have the capability to monitor air quality (gasses in particular), and are there multiple air quality sensors throughout the different sections of the ISS? 8. Yesterday was my birthday, how many birthdays have been celebrated aboard the ISS? 9. Will absolute zero ever be accomplished in the ISS, and if so, will the cooled atoms in the CAL have no motion at all; creating a wonderful opportunity to observe and experiment with quantum physics? 10. What does it feel like wearing a spacesuit? Have there been any special suit modifications for astronauts who are more sensitive to having things touch their skin? 11. Is Commander Drew Feustel going to try to beat his third-place record for cumulative time spacewalking during this mission? 12. What sensors are used to collect data and determine the amount of Cosmic rays aboard the ISS? And who monitors that data over time? 13. How do you draw blood in space for all the experiments requiring that? Do you have to use a special type of syringe? 14. Is your daily routine regimented to a time zone, or can you sleep, wake, and work at times you choose? 15. How long did it take to make CIMON and get it approved for this mission, and has anyone nicknamed it "HAL" yet? 16. Do ambient noises sound different in the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module (BEAM) compared with the other sections of the ISS, and can you please record ambient sounds inside the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module (BEAM) for us? 17. What happens if you take apart a jumbled Rubik's cube and reassemble it correctly in front of CIMON? Will it detect that as cheating and call you out on it? 18. Would Infrared lights help the High Definition Earth Viewing (HDEV) cameras to see Earth when the ISS is looking at the night sides? 19. Have you watched the new episodes of BattleBots on Discovery Channel? Our school S.T.E.A.M. Director JediJill, and I, and Ethan, and Cayden, and Sara from Team Kraken-BattleBots are all here today. Our robot's primary weapon is a pneumatic crusher. What kind of pneumatics are used on board the ISS or the Soyuz? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Essex Heights Primary School, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, telebridge via VK4KHZ. The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-17 08:24 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 10 17:28:02 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Trying to understand downlink corrections References: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I have been using a SDR dongle to receive the downlinks of SSB satellites. The combination of SatPC32's Downlink Correction feature and the SDR's visual display helps to zero beat the CW beacon exceptionally well.? The Lat/Lon is good to 6 decimals.? However, I find that the downlink correction needed is quite different for different satellites. Could it be due to rounding off errors or due to temperature variations at the satellite itself ??? Maybe this has been explained earlier, but I wonder why ?? ? Obviously, the more I learn, shows how less I know...? Thanks for any pointers !? ? 73!? Umesh? k6vug? ? From pconver at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 18:21:53 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:21:53 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] Trying to understand downlink corrections In-Reply-To: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Umesh, You're right, some satellites i.e AO-91, AO-73 do show temperature and solar illumination afects frequency, other possible cause is older TLE keplers data. ( For often updated keps try http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt ) Learn is a never ending activity :) 73, LU7ABF, Pedro On 7/10/18, k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Greetings, > I have been using a SDR dongle to receive the downlinks of SSB satellites. > The combination of SatPC32's Downlink Correction feature and the SDR's > visual display helps to zero beat the CW beacon exceptionally well. The > Lat/Lon is good to 6 decimals. However, I find that the downlink correction > needed is quite different for different satellites. Could it be due to > rounding off errors or due to temperature variations at the satellite itself > ? Maybe this has been explained earlier, but I wonder why ? > > Obviously, the more I learn, shows how less I know... Thanks for any > pointers ! > > 73! > Umesh > k6vug > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From w3ab at yahoo.com Tue Jul 10 18:37:20 2018 From: w3ab at yahoo.com (W3AB/GEO) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 11:37:20 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Trying to understand downlink corrections In-Reply-To: References: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bird speed and altitude? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jul 10, 2018, 11:24, at 11:24, Pedro Converso wrote: >Umesh, > >You're right, some satellites i.e AO-91, AO-73 do show temperature and >solar illumination afects frequency, other possible cause is older TLE >keplers data. ( For often updated keps try >http://amsat.org.ar/keps.txt ) > >Learn is a never ending activity :) > >73, LU7ABF, Pedro > >On 7/10/18, k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Greetings, >> I have been using a SDR dongle to receive the downlinks of SSB >satellites. >> The combination of SatPC32's Downlink Correction feature and the >SDR's >> visual display helps to zero beat the CW beacon exceptionally well. >The >> Lat/Lon is good to 6 decimals. However, I find that the downlink >correction >> needed is quite different for different satellites. Could it be due >to >> rounding off errors or due to temperature variations at the satellite >itself >> ? Maybe this has been explained earlier, but I wonder why ? >> >> Obviously, the more I learn, shows how less I know... Thanks for any >> pointers ! >> >> 73! >> Umesh >> k6vug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wa4sca at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 18:41:22 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:41:22 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Trying to understand downlink corrections In-Reply-To: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001d4187d$9a167a50$ce436ef0$@gmail.com> Umesh, There are two primary satellite issues. First, the published frequencies are usually nominal values obtained during ground checkout. Over time due to normal component aging, radiation, loss of voltage regulation, etc they can drift. The second is the temperature effect you mentioned. You will find that the beacon and transponder calibration will change slightly with the spacecraft temperature as it goes through periods of eclipse and full illumination. There is also a slight seasonal shift which you can see. This is most prominent in CubeSats which have very little thermal inertia. Also, the are tradeoffs to be made in terms of power consumption, radiation resistance, and performance. AO-7 also drifts due to the lack of a battery to stabilize the voltage. Another issue is your station computer clock. They can drift rather badly, and the operating system may not do a very good job of syncing them with a reliable time standard. There are some free programs which do an excellent job available. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d4187d$9a167a50$ce436ef0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2069565900.2287435.1531251671500@mail.yahoo.com> Don't forget your SDR could be off by a few parts per million in frequency if you haven't calibrated it to a known frequency source.? At 435 MHz, being off by 3 parts per million would translate to a 3*435 =1305 Hz or 1.305 KHz offset from the actual intended frequency of reception. Jay F. CoxKG5BZW "Knowledge can only exist if doubt is possible."? -- stolen from an amazon.com review of "On Certainty:" by by Ludwig Wittgenstein. On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 1:43:09 PM CDT, Alan wrote: Umesh, There are two primary satellite issues.? First, the published frequencies are usually nominal values obtained during ground checkout. Over time due to normal component aging, radiation, loss of voltage regulation, etc they can drift.? The second is the temperature effect you mentioned.? You will find that the beacon and transponder calibration will change slightly with the spacecraft temperature as it goes through periods of eclipse and full illumination. There is also a slight seasonal shift which you can see.? This is most prominent in CubeSats which have very little thermal inertia.? Also, the are tradeoffs to be made in terms of power consumption, radiation resistance, and performance.? AO-7 also drifts due to the lack of a battery to stabilize the voltage.? Another issue is your station computer clock.? They can drift rather badly, and the operating system may not do a very good job of syncing them with a reliable time standard.? There are some free programs which do an excellent job available. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d4187d$9a167a50$ce436ef0$@gmail.com> <2069565900.2287435.1531251671500@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <911bf7e6-7f79-408a-b10e-0ed8f6df5819@yahoo.com> Umesh, Are you asking about doppler corrections that must be made during the operation or a fixed frequency before you start? ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On Jul 10, 2018, 12:43, at 12:43, Jay Cox via AMSAT-BB wrote: >Don't forget your SDR could be off by a few parts per million in >frequency if you haven't calibrated it to a known frequency source.? At >435 MHz, being off by 3 parts per million would translate to a 3*435 >=1305 Hz or 1.305 KHz offset from the actual intended frequency of >reception. >Jay F. CoxKG5BZW >"Knowledge can only exist if doubt is possible."? -- stolen from an >amazon.com review of "On Certainty:" by by Ludwig Wittgenstein. > >On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 1:43:09 PM CDT, Alan >wrote: > > Umesh, > >There are two primary satellite issues.? First, the published >frequencies >are usually nominal values obtained during ground checkout. Over time >due to >normal component aging, radiation, loss of voltage regulation, etc they >can >drift.? > >The second is the temperature effect you mentioned.? You will find that >the >beacon and transponder calibration will change slightly with the >spacecraft >temperature as it goes through periods of eclipse and full >illumination. >There is also a slight seasonal shift which you can see.? This is most >prominent in CubeSats which have very little thermal inertia.? Also, >the are >tradeoffs to be made in terms of power consumption, radiation >resistance, >and performance.? AO-7 also drifts due to the lack of a battery to >stabilize >the voltage.? > >Another issue is your station computer clock.? They can drift rather >badly, >and the operating system may not do a very good job of syncing them >with a >reliable time standard.? There are some free programs which do an >excellent >job available. > >73, > >Alan >WA4SCA > > > > ><-----Original Message----- > >< >satellites. >The >visual >Lat/Lon >is >needed >is >off >errors or >has >been >< >pointers >< ><73! >< ><_______________________________________________ >Opinions >of >AMSAT- >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 10 21:36:29 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 21:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Trying to understand downlink corrections In-Reply-To: <911bf7e6-7f79-408a-b10e-0ed8f6df5819@yahoo.com> References: <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1440710733.2179672.1531243682690@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d4187d$9a167a50$ce436ef0$@gmail.com> <2069565900.2287435.1531251671500@mail.yahoo.com> <911bf7e6-7f79-408a-b10e-0ed8f6df5819@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9976008.2359525.1531258589486@mail.yahoo.com> A big thank you for all the replies !? ? W3AB/GEO, Just to clarify, SatPC32 has the latest TLEs and does all the work during the pass. However, at AOS I have to apply a small correction to the downlink frequency (via SatPC32's feature) in order to zero beat the CW beacon. After that, it tracks nicely throughout the pass. So my question was (a) why do I need the correction and (b) why is the correction different for different satellites. ? Jay, Thanks, I did calibrate it as much as SDRsharp would allow and it seems to be dead-on for ground VHF transmissions.? Assuming it was still off by a little, I thought it would be off by the same amount for all satellites. ? Alan, Thanks for the detailed explanation, the temperature based drift was my first guess due to the size limitations. I had not thought of the component degradation and esp., seasonal changes and the PC clock.?? ? Pedro, Thanks for the TLE updating tip.? I guess TLEs change to keep up with orbit drift, etc. right?? ? Again, thanks everyone, this is fascinating and it looks like there is no way to "Set-it-and-Forget-it"...? So, for now, I'm making a list of downlink corrections for the satellites that I'm playing with and that have a CW beacon.? Some day, if I get my hands on some SDR code I may look into adding auto-zero-beat like FLDIGI or DM780 or CWGET. ? ? Best 73s, Umesh k6vug ? On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:59:21 PM PDT, W3AB/GEO wrote: Umesh, Are you asking about doppler corrections that must be made during the operation or a fixed frequency before you start? ___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEOOn Jul 10, 2018, at 12:43, Jay Cox via AMSAT-BB wrote: Don't forget your SDR could be off by a few parts per million in frequency if you haven't calibrated it to a known frequency source.? At 435 MHz, being off by 3 parts per million would translate to a 3*435 =1305 Hz or 1.305 KHz offset from the actual intended frequency of reception. Jay F. CoxKG5BZW "Knowledge can only exist if doubt is possible."? -- stolen from an amazon.com review of "On Certainty:" by by Ludwig Wittgenstein. On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 1:43:09 PM CDT, Alan wrote: Umesh, There are two primary satellite issues.? First, the published frequencies are usually nominal values obtained during ground checkout. Over time due to normal component aging, radiation, loss of voltage regulation, etc they can drift.? The second is the temperature effect you mentioned.? You will find that the beacon and transponder calibration will change slightly with the spacecraft temperature as it goes through periods of eclipse and full illumination. There is also a slight seasonal shift which you can see.? This is most prominent in CubeSats which have very little thermal inertia.? Also, the are tradeoffs to be made in terms of power consumption, radiation resistance, and performance.? AO-7 also drifts due to the lack of a battery to stabilize the voltage.? Another issue is your station computer clock.? They can drift rather badly, and the operating system may not do a very good job of syncing them with a reliable time standard.? There are some free programs which do an excellent job available. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- All: Just deleted a phishing email which purported to be from the webmaster -- my account is full and will be deleted unless I clicked a link, which did NOT go to amsat.org. Beware! 73, Jim wb4gcs at amsat.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kb2mjeff at att.net Wed Jul 11 12:39:04 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 08:39:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue Message-ID: <3DB30F5F5E06481AA164CA98F61C9D8A@kb2m4PC> Looks like the elevation up relay is fried in my RAS controller box. I'm going to take Harald's advice and replace all 4. Before I order the parts has anyone else experienced a relay failure with their RAS? If so what relay did you replace it with, make, part # ? I'm at this time running the controller and rotor at 13.8 volts, was going to try 28 volts to the rotor with the Spid approved mod, but now not so sure :-) 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Harald Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:07 PM To: kb2mjeff at att.net Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue Hello Kb2m jeff, I don't know if you have ELFA over there but from elfa the part nr. is PCB power relay 12VDC 400mW 137-44-376. It is more or less a standard relay. They are a littel bit hard to get out of the pcb but I used solder sucking wick as they called it, you may have to resolder some points to get it totally free. Not too much heat, ,,,,take some breaks :-) good luck in finding them. Harald la7qta Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 12:34:25 AM, you wrote: > Hi Harald. thank you for the reply. I'm sure my control box has a failed > relay also. I hear a faint click when going both ways in azimuth, but only > hear a click on down elevation. So I'm sure the up elevation relay is > defective. I'm going to take your advice and swap out all four relays. > Would > you be so kind to give me a part number and a source of the relays you > replaced with. Thanks in advance.... > 73 Jeff kb2m > -----Original Message----- > From: Harald > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:07 PM > To: kb2mjeff at att.net > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue > Hello Kb2m jeff, > I recently had the exact same problem but the rotor was running. > To get it out of that position I took the plug out of the az > conn. and put the conn. from ez into az and drove it all the way > around again. they are equaly pinned. test which way you have to > rotate with the az buttons,,,,(or connect 12v with the right > polarity to the ez plug directly),,,,,,, much easyer to use the az conn. > I replaced the 4 relays, zeroed the controller and all is working > again. > The relays are some cheap ones so the best is to change them > anyway. > I have used it for 3 years and had truble before with those. > Hope this will help in solving your problems ! > Best 73's > Harald > LA7QTA > PS: questions,,,just ask ! > Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:32:26 PM, you wrote: >> I?m having a problem with my RAS rotor at my winter home. When I turned >> it >> on yesterday, after an absence of about 2 months the elevation went into >> a >> complete backflip when powered up, and is jammed against the roof with an >> elevation reading of 195 degrees on the control box. I?m at my Florida >> home for just a few weeks to do some fishing, so before starting to work >> on it to maybe speed up the repair process a bit I?m asking here if >> anyone >> else had this problem. When the roof dries off I plan on going up there >> and remove the antennas before trying to move the rotor, to diagnose. >> Right now the azimuth will turn, but the elevation is stuck, it wont move >> up or down. I?m hoping it is just jammed into the roof, once unstuck >> hopefully all it would need is a re-calibration. Thanks for any useful >> information.... >> 73 Jeff kb2m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 13:12:01 2018 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:12:01 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue In-Reply-To: <3DB30F5F5E06481AA164CA98F61C9D8A@kb2m4PC> References: <3DB30F5F5E06481AA164CA98F61C9D8A@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: Jeff, I went through 2 Rot2Prog controllers in less than a year. The relays seem to be a big problem. I bit the bullet and bought a Green Heron controller and haven't had any problems. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S9 On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 8:43 AM wrote: > Looks like the elevation up relay is fried in my RAS controller box. I'm > going to take Harald's advice and replace all 4. Before I order the parts > has anyone else experienced a relay failure with their RAS? If so what > relay > did you replace it with, make, part # ? > > I'm at this time running the controller and rotor at 13.8 volts, was going > to try 28 volts to the rotor with the Spid approved mod, but now not so > sure > :-) > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harald > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:07 PM > To: kb2mjeff at att.net > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue > > Hello Kb2m jeff, > > I don't know if you have ELFA over there but from elfa the part > nr. is PCB power relay 12VDC 400mW 137-44-376. > > It is more or less a standard relay. > > They are a littel bit hard to get out of the pcb but I used > solder sucking wick as they called it, you may have to resolder > some points to get it totally free. > Not too much heat, ,,,,take some breaks :-) > > good luck in finding them. > > Harald > la7qta > > > > Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 12:34:25 AM, you wrote: > > > > Hi Harald. thank you for the reply. I'm sure my control box has a failed > > relay also. I hear a faint click when going both ways in azimuth, but > only > > hear a click on down elevation. So I'm sure the up elevation relay is > > defective. I'm going to take your advice and swap out all four relays. > > Would > > you be so kind to give me a part number and a source of the relays you > > replaced with. Thanks in advance.... > > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harald > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:07 PM > > To: kb2mjeff at att.net > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue > > > Hello Kb2m jeff, > > > I recently had the exact same problem but the rotor was running. > > To get it out of that position I took the plug out of the az > > conn. and put the conn. from ez into az and drove it all the way > > around again. they are equaly pinned. test which way you have to > > rotate with the az buttons,,,,(or connect 12v with the right > > polarity to the ez plug directly),,,,,,, much easyer to use the az conn. > > > I replaced the 4 relays, zeroed the controller and all is working > > again. > > > The relays are some cheap ones so the best is to change them > > anyway. > > I have used it for 3 years and had truble before with those. > > > Hope this will help in solving your problems ! > > > Best 73's > > > Harald > > LA7QTA > > > PS: questions,,,just ask ! > > > > Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:32:26 PM, you wrote: > > >> I?m having a problem with my RAS rotor at my winter home. When I turned > >> it > >> on yesterday, after an absence of about 2 months the elevation went > into > >> a > >> complete backflip when powered up, and is jammed against the roof with > an > >> elevation reading of 195 degrees on the control box. I?m at my Florida > >> home for just a few weeks to do some fishing, so before starting to work > >> on it to maybe speed up the repair process a bit I?m asking here if > >> anyone > >> else had this problem. When the roof dries off I plan on going up there > >> and remove the antennas before trying to move the rotor, to diagnose. > >> Right now the azimuth will turn, but the elevation is stuck, it wont > move > >> up or down. I?m hoping it is just jammed into the roof, once unstuck > >> hopefully all it would need is a re-calibration. Thanks for any useful > >> information.... > > >> 73 Jeff kb2m > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From dibor at iname.com Wed Jul 11 13:28:17 2018 From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 13:28:17 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue In-Reply-To: References: <3DB30F5F5E06481AA164CA98F61C9D8A@kb2m4pc> Message-ID: Hi Green Heron controller is good idea but price is as RAS rotator and his controller. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dave Webb KB1PVH" To: "kb2m" Cc: "AMSAT -BB" Sent: 11.07.2018 16:12:01 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue >Jeff, > >I went through 2 Rot2Prog controllers in less than a year. The relays >seem >to be a big problem. I bit the bullet and bought a Green Heron >controller >and haven't had any problems. > >Dave-KB1PVH > > >Sent from my Galaxy S9 > >On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 8:43 AM wrote: > >>Looks like the elevation up relay is fried in my RAS controller box. >>I'm >>going to take Harald's advice and replace all 4. Before I order the >>parts >>has anyone else experienced a relay failure with their RAS? If so what >>relay >>did you replace it with, make, part # ? >> >>I'm at this time running the controller and rotor at 13.8 volts, was >>going >>to try 28 volts to the rotor with the Spid approved mod, but now not >>so >>sure >>:-) >> >>73 Jeff kb2m >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Harald >>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:07 PM >>To: kb2mjeff at att.net >>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue >> >>Hello Kb2m jeff, >> >>I don't know if you have ELFA over there but from elfa the part >>nr. is PCB power relay 12VDC 400mW 137-44-376. >> >>It is more or less a standard relay. >> >>They are a littel bit hard to get out of the pcb but I used >>solder sucking wick as they called it, you may have to resolder >>some points to get it totally free. >>Not too much heat, ,,,,take some breaks :-) >> >>good luck in finding them. >> >>Harald >>la7qta >> >> >> >>Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 12:34:25 AM, you wrote: >> >> >> > Hi Harald. thank you for the reply. I'm sure my control box has a >>failed >> > relay also. I hear a faint click when going both ways in azimuth, >>but >>only >> > hear a click on down elevation. So I'm sure the up elevation relay >>is >> > defective. I'm going to take your advice and swap out all four >>relays. >> > Would >> > you be so kind to give me a part number and a source of the relays >>you >> > replaced with. Thanks in advance.... >> >> > 73 Jeff kb2m >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Harald >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:07 PM >> > To: kb2mjeff at att.net >> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue >> >> > Hello Kb2m jeff, >> >> > I recently had the exact same problem but the rotor was running. >> > To get it out of that position I took the plug out of the az >> > conn. and put the conn. from ez into az and drove it all the way >> > around again. they are equaly pinned. test which way you have to >> > rotate with the az buttons,,,,(or connect 12v with the right >> > polarity to the ez plug directly),,,,,,, much easyer to use the az >>conn. >> >> > I replaced the 4 relays, zeroed the controller and all is working >> > again. >> >> > The relays are some cheap ones so the best is to change them >> > anyway. >> > I have used it for 3 years and had truble before with those. >> >> > Hope this will help in solving your problems ! >> >> > Best 73's >> >> > Harald >> > LA7QTA >> >> > PS: questions,,,just ask ! >> >> >> > Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:32:26 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> I?m having a problem with my RAS rotor at my winter home. When I >>turned >> >> it >> >> on yesterday, after an absence of about 2 months the elevation went >>into >> >> a >> >> complete backflip when powered up, and is jammed against the roof >>with >>an >> >> elevation reading of 195 degrees on the control box. I?m at my >>Florida >> >> home for just a few weeks to do some fishing, so before starting to >>work >> >> on it to maybe speed up the repair process a bit I?m asking here if >> >> anyone >> >> else had this problem. When the roof dries off I plan on going up >>there >> >> and remove the antennas before trying to move the rotor, to >>diagnose. >> >> Right now the azimuth will turn, but the elevation is stuck, it >>wont >>move >> >> up or down. I?m hoping it is just jammed into the roof, once >>unstuck >> >> hopefully all it would need is a re-calibration. Thanks for any >>useful >> >> information.... >> >> >> 73 Jeff kb2m >> >> >> >>--- >>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>https://www.avg.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>Opinions >>expressed >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>of >>AMSAT-NA. >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>program! >>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 13:52:29 2018 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:52:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue In-Reply-To: References: <3DB30F5F5E06481AA164CA98F61C9D8A@kb2m4pc> Message-ID: Dimitry, I agree that the Green Heron is very expensive after spending a large amount on the rotor. I wasn't really happy about having to do it, but I also wasn't happy about the stock controller not working twice in a year. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S9 On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 9:30 AM Dimitry Borzenko wrote: > Hi > Green Heron controller is good idea but price is as RAS rotator and his > controller. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Dave Webb KB1PVH" > To: "kb2m" > Cc: "AMSAT -BB" > Sent: 11.07.2018 16:12:01 > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue > > >Jeff, > > > >I went through 2 Rot2Prog controllers in less than a year. The relays > >seem > >to be a big problem. I bit the bullet and bought a Green Heron > >controller > >and haven't had any problems. > > > >Dave-KB1PVH > > > > > >Sent from my Galaxy S9 > > > >On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 8:43 AM wrote: > > > >>Looks like the elevation up relay is fried in my RAS controller box. > >>I'm > >>going to take Harald's advice and replace all 4. Before I order the > >>parts > >>has anyone else experienced a relay failure with their RAS? If so what > >>relay > >>did you replace it with, make, part # ? > >> > >>I'm at this time running the controller and rotor at 13.8 volts, was > >>going > >>to try 28 volts to the rotor with the Spid approved mod, but now not > >>so > >>sure > >>:-) > >> > >>73 Jeff kb2m > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Harald > >>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:07 PM > >>To: kb2mjeff at att.net > >>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue > >> > >>Hello Kb2m jeff, > >> > >>I don't know if you have ELFA over there but from elfa the part > >>nr. is PCB power relay 12VDC 400mW 137-44-376. > >> > >>It is more or less a standard relay. > >> > >>They are a littel bit hard to get out of the pcb but I used > >>solder sucking wick as they called it, you may have to resolder > >>some points to get it totally free. > >>Not too much heat, ,,,,take some breaks :-) > >> > >>good luck in finding them. > >> > >>Harald > >>la7qta > >> > >> > >> > >>Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 12:34:25 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> > >> > Hi Harald. thank you for the reply. I'm sure my control box has a > >>failed > >> > relay also. I hear a faint click when going both ways in azimuth, > >>but > >>only > >> > hear a click on down elevation. So I'm sure the up elevation relay > >>is > >> > defective. I'm going to take your advice and swap out all four > >>relays. > >> > Would > >> > you be so kind to give me a part number and a source of the relays > >>you > >> > replaced with. Thanks in advance.... > >> > >> > 73 Jeff kb2m > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Harald > >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:07 PM > >> > To: kb2mjeff at att.net > >> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue > >> > >> > Hello Kb2m jeff, > >> > >> > I recently had the exact same problem but the rotor was running. > >> > To get it out of that position I took the plug out of the az > >> > conn. and put the conn. from ez into az and drove it all the way > >> > around again. they are equaly pinned. test which way you have to > >> > rotate with the az buttons,,,,(or connect 12v with the right > >> > polarity to the ez plug directly),,,,,,, much easyer to use the az > >>conn. > >> > >> > I replaced the 4 relays, zeroed the controller and all is working > >> > again. > >> > >> > The relays are some cheap ones so the best is to change them > >> > anyway. > >> > I have used it for 3 years and had truble before with those. > >> > >> > Hope this will help in solving your problems ! > >> > >> > Best 73's > >> > >> > Harald > >> > LA7QTA > >> > >> > PS: questions,,,just ask ! > >> > >> > >> > Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:32:26 PM, you wrote: > >> > >> >> I?m having a problem with my RAS rotor at my winter home. When I > >>turned > >> >> it > >> >> on yesterday, after an absence of about 2 months the elevation went > >>into > >> >> a > >> >> complete backflip when powered up, and is jammed against the roof > >>with > >>an > >> >> elevation reading of 195 degrees on the control box. I?m at my > >>Florida > >> >> home for just a few weeks to do some fishing, so before starting to > >>work > >> >> on it to maybe speed up the repair process a bit I?m asking here if > >> >> anyone > >> >> else had this problem. When the roof dries off I plan on going up > >>there > >> >> and remove the antennas before trying to move the rotor, to > >>diagnose. > >> >> Right now the azimuth will turn, but the elevation is stuck, it > >>wont > >>move > >> >> up or down. I?m hoping it is just jammed into the roof, once > >>unstuck > >> >> hopefully all it would need is a re-calibration. Thanks for any > >>useful > >> >> information.... > >> > >> >> 73 Jeff kb2m > >> > >> > >> > >>--- > >>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >>https://www.avg.com > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>Opinions > >>expressed > >>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >>of > >>AMSAT-NA. > >>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>program! > >>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >Opinions expressed > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >of AMSAT-NA. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >program! > >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From af5cc2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 14:36:29 2018 From: af5cc2 at gmail.com (John Geiger) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:36:29 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Yaesu FT100D HF/VHF/UHF all mode radio Message-ID: I have for sale a Yaesu FT100D HF/6m/2m/70cm transceiver in nice condition that operates like it should, with one small issue. This is the model that does 100 watts on HF and 6 meters, 50 watts on 2 meters, and 20 watts on 70cm. This would make a nice rig for part of a satellite station. Just get another 2 meter or 70cm all mode radio and you are ready to do full duplex on the satellites. It is small enough to take portable on satellite grid expeditions as well. It has DSP noise reduction, mic equalization, an auto notch filter, and a very effective audio peak filter for CW, and bandpass filtering (AF DSP) for SSB. Also has a built in CW memory keyer, and SWR meter. It is a 2000 year model and has had the SWR/Grounding mod done to it. Being a D model it has the 500hz CW filter, TCXO, and CTCSS decode options installed in it at the factory. I tried to plug a couple of different CT-62 computer control cables into the CAT port on the end of the pigtail on the FT100D, and I couldn't get them to fit right. Not sure if there is something wrong with the jack. You might not be able to do computer control with this radio It comes with the power cord, and a almost new MH-48 hand mic. A previous owner did install a couple of circular rubber feet on the front bottom, but these won't interfere with the prop up feet if you want to use them. I am asking $420 shipped in the US for the radio, and can take paypal/check/MO. 73 John AF5CC From anthonywiese at yahoo.com Wed Jul 11 15:20:33 2018 From: anthonywiese at yahoo.com (Anthony Wiese) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CM79 Activation References: <473773261.2288260.1531322433289.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <473773261.2288260.1531322433289@mail.yahoo.com> I'm looking to activate CM79 this Saturday and maybe Sunday.? I'll be on the FM Birds as well as 20 and 40m.? This is a recon expedition for a grander activation later on in the year.? I hope to become proficient on the Linear Birds by then to use them next time.? Wish me luck,AnthonyKG6LHW. From w5pfg at amsat.org Wed Jul 11 15:50:51 2018 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:50:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 12.8d & Yaesu FT-991A (not an option) Message-ID: <20180711155054.C953F7FCE@lansing182.amsat.org> I would like to test my Yaesu FT-991A with SatPC32 version 12.8d, but neither FT-991 or YaesuII are available options as described in the latest help menu Radio->Hints or Yaesu README file. I recently migrated from SatPC32 version 12.8c to 12.8d on my testbed computer. I followed the normal instructions (DataBackup, uninstall 12.8c, install 12.8d as Administrator.) I?ve done this many times and have configured SatPC32 to control a half-dozen different radios over the years. On my latest attempt I did not restore the DataBackup and attempted to configure a ?fresh? copy of 12.8d, but the radio options are not available. Is anyone successfully using SatPC32 version 12.8d to control a Yaesu FT-991A? I would like to compare files with you. 73, Clayton W5PFG From w5pfg at amsat.org Wed Jul 11 15:55:56 2018 From: w5pfg at amsat.org (Clayton W5PFG) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:55:56 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue Message-ID: <20180711155609.9B74087F8@lansing182.amsat.org> I eliminated all my issues with the AlfaSpid RAS/HR & MD-01 controller by migrating from using SatPC32 to PSTrotator software for rotor control. SatPC32 did not have the correct incremental steps and more importantly it does not read any feedback from the controller when it is sending commands. You will definitely have problems, potentially hazardous mechanical aiming issues, if you attempt to use the AlfaSpid+SatPC32 for anything other than 360 degree rotation. My recommendation is use PSTrotator natively to control/direct Spid movements (and NOT feed with DDE instructions from other applications.) 73 Clayton W5PFG From haralok at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 16:37:31 2018 From: haralok at gmail.com (Harald) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:37:31 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Spid RAS rotor issue In-Reply-To: <20180711155609.9B74087F8@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20180711155609.9B74087F8@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: <5510111025.20180711183731@gmail.com> Hello Clayton, I am using Orbitron to track sat's via dde and that has worked very well and no trouble except hardware (relays) as Jeff probably having. But I also using pstrotator on the eme setup,,very good pice of sw. The MD-01 controller is much more reliable I think so people that order a spid rotor should include that instead of rot2prg. Harald la7qta Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 5:55:56 PM, you wrote: > I eliminated all my issues with the AlfaSpid RAS/HR & MD-01 controller by migrating from using SatPC32 > to PSTrotator software for rotor control. SatPC32 did not have the correct incremental steps and more > importantly it does not read any feedback from the controller when it is sending commands. > You will definitely have problems, potentially hazardous mechanical aiming issues, if you attempt to > use the AlfaSpid+SatPC32 for anything other than 360 degree rotation. My recommendation is use PSTrotator > natively to control/direct Spid movements (and NOT feed with DDE instructions from other applications.) > 73 > Clayton > W5PFG > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com -- Best regards, Harald mailto:haralok at gmail.com From rsoifer1 at aol.com Wed Jul 11 16:41:06 2018 From: rsoifer1 at aol.com (2) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:41:06 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL release Message-ID: <1648a37bb33-179e-12afc@webjas-vaa245.srv.aolmail.net> http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-urges-regulatory-regime-to-keep-non-amateur-satellites-off-amateur-spectrum From k.swaggart at charter.net Wed Jul 11 17:03:36 2018 From: k.swaggart at charter.net (Ken Swaggart) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:03:36 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Online telemetry forwarder problem Message-ID: <001d01d41939$1bb453a0$531cfae0$@charter.net> I've been using DK3WN's Online Telemetry Forwarder for the past year to upload 9600 baud Cubesat telemetry to the SatNogs database. Two days ago, after a PC restart, it stopped receiving KISS data from UZ7HO's High-Speed Sound Modem. I've checked that the KISS ports are correct and there are no other demodulators running. The HS sound modem displays the telemetry data, but nothing shows up on the Online Telemetry Forwarder even though it shows the port is connected. I'm running both programs as Administrator. OS is Win10. The Online Telemetry Forwarder is ver 1.0.14b HS sound modem is ver 0.19b. I'm using KISS port 8100 between the telemetry forwarder and the sound modem. HS Sound Modem has "KISS Optimization" checked and is displaying the received data, so it's working. Any troubleshooting suggestions appreciated! 73, Ken, W7KKE From wa4sca at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 19:18:50 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:18:50 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 12.8d & Yaesu FT-991A (not an option) In-Reply-To: <20180711155054.C953F7FCE@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20180711155054.C953F7FCE@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: <000001d4194b$fff51380$ffdf3a80$@gmail.com> Clayton, There are currently two versions of 12.8d on the download page. The second has the name satpcsetup_a_128d_991.ZIP. I downloaded that, and on the radio setup page, there is a "Yaesu II" selection along with the regular Yaesu, Icom, and Kenwood. Selecting that, and the FT-991 comes up. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Hints or Yaesu README file. < Hi All, I've been inactive for several years now and have started to get the itch again to get back into doing some Amateur Radio related. I've often thought about trying to get on some of the linear and FM sats as apparently I live in a somewhat rare grid. EM23? Anyway I have a FT-897 and FT-857 that I plan to use along with a dual band arrow antenna that I used several years ago during field day one time. I have CAT cables for the radios on order for rig control. I will probably go with SATPC32 for software unless someone has an idea on something better but it needs to be PC based. Maybe free? Right now the plan is to either hold the arrow antenna or mount to a tri-pod. I need all of this to be as portable as possible as I am currently unable to setup a station at my QTH. Am I missing anything? Any suggestions? 73 Matt W5LL From bryan at kl7cn.net Wed Jul 11 20:11:38 2018 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 13:11:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable Sat Station In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Matt! Since you mentioned an Arrow and a tripod, I think you mean to use the setup in a portable situation! Excellent! I use an FT-897 for uplink, an FT-817 for downlink, and an Arrow -- similar to your situation. May I suggest that you consider trying it out manually first without CAT control. It is fairly straightforward -- with some practice -- to learn how to manually adjust for Doppler. And, since you use the FT-897, it has the spotting function that I find handy from time to time and that I found especially handy while learning to tune Doppler manually. As for the Arrow, a tripod is a great way to start but you will find that most of the very active operators hold it by hand. The chief reason for this is to be able to control the axial rotation -- some tripods can also do this but many don't. You really need to be able to quickly rotate the Arrow on its axis to maximize downlink signals -- like flicking your wrist. Lastly, consider using an inline MP3 recorder so that logging takes less effort during operation. Since you have separate radios, you will be able to hear (and record) your downlink just fine. So, to the point of being as portable as possible: imagine me grabbing iPhone (for GoSatWatch), MP3 Recorder, iPod headset, extra male-to-male audio cable, Yaesu mic, FT-897, and FT-817 and racing through the house to the garage. While I wait for the garage door to open I grab the Arrow. I set up everything on a flat surface outside -- talk to Patrick WD9EWK about the special features offered by pink trash bins -- and track the Arrow by hand. So much fun! -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > On Jul 11, 2018, at 12:20, mattpatt at 1starnet.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > I've been inactive for several years now and have started to get the itch again to get back into doing some Amateur Radio related. I've often thought about trying to get on some of the linear and FM sats as apparently I live in a somewhat rare grid. EM23? Anyway I have a FT-897 and FT-857 that I plan to use along with a dual band arrow antenna that I used several years ago during field day one time. I have CAT cables for the radios on order for rig control. I will probably go with SATPC32 for software unless someone has an idea on something better but it needs to be PC based. Maybe free? Right now the plan is to either hold the arrow antenna or mount to a tri-pod. I need all of this to be as portable as possible as I am currently unable to setup a station at my QTH. Am I missing anything? Any suggestions? > > > 73 Matt > W5LL > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Wed Jul 11 21:15:00 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 23:15:00 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 12.8d & Yaesu FT-991A (not an option) In-Reply-To: <000001d4194b$fff51380$ffdf3a80$@gmail.com> References: <20180711155054.C953F7FCE@lansing182.amsat.org> <000001d4194b$fff51380$ffdf3a80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f25674f-0501-6fd9-fe16-5c232b307e32@t-online.de> Alan, thank you for answering Clayton's mail. I just wanted to get a few test results? to be sure that CAT control works with the FT-991 / FT-991A, before I replace the previous setup files. 73s, Erich, DK1TB Am 11.07.2018 um 21:18 schrieb Alan: > Clayton, > > There are currently two versions of 12.8d on the download page. The second has the name satpcsetup_a_128d_991.ZIP. I downloaded that, and on the radio setup page, there is a "Yaesu II" selection along with the regular Yaesu, Icom, and Kenwood. Selecting that, and the FT-991 comes up. > > 73, > > Alan > WA4SCA > > > <-----Original Message----- > < > < > Hints or Yaesu README file. > < > < > < > <73, > <_______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 11 21:40:46 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable Sat Station In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1229992926.3011296.1531345246101@mail.yahoo.com> Just wanted to add that smart-phones are pretty handy audio recorders.? So, if you plan to do everything by hand, I recommend using the iPhone for both the tracking app as well as a audio recording app.?? I use AmsatDroid and EasyVoiceRecorder on an old discarded smart-phone.? A simple audio splitter cable I made helps records the downlink audio including my own too !? Here is a sample: AO-91 20180328 N6REK Yosemite Nat Park.mp3 | | | | AO-91 20180328 N6REK Yosemite Nat Park.mp3 | | | Just a thought... 731Umesh On Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 1:13:15 PM PDT, Bryan KL7CN wrote: Hello, Matt! Since you mentioned an Arrow and a tripod, I think you mean to use the setup in a portable situation! Excellent! I use an FT-897 for uplink, an FT-817 for downlink, and an Arrow -- similar to your situation. May I suggest that you consider trying it out manually first without CAT control. It is fairly straightforward -- with some practice -- to learn how to manually adjust for Doppler. And, since you use the FT-897, it has the spotting function that I find handy from time to time and that I found especially handy while learning to tune Doppler manually. As for the Arrow, a tripod is a great way to start but you will find that most of the very active operators hold it by hand. The chief reason for this is to be able to control the axial rotation -- some tripods can also do this but many don't. You really need to be able to quickly rotate the Arrow on its axis to maximize downlink signals -- like flicking your wrist. Lastly, consider using an inline MP3 recorder so that logging takes less effort during operation. Since you have separate radios, you will be able to hear (and record) your downlink just fine. So, to the point of being as portable as possible: imagine me grabbing iPhone (for GoSatWatch), MP3 Recorder, iPod headset, extra male-to-male audio cable, Yaesu mic, FT-897, and FT-817 and racing through the house to the garage. While I wait for the garage door to open I grab the Arrow. I set up everything on a flat surface outside -- talk to Patrick WD9EWK about the special features offered by pink trash bins -- and track the Arrow by hand. So much fun! -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > On Jul 11, 2018, at 12:20, mattpatt at 1starnet.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > I've been inactive for several years now and have started to get the itch again to get back into doing some Amateur Radio related.? I've often thought about trying to get on some of the linear and FM sats as apparently I live in a somewhat rare grid.? EM23?? Anyway I have a FT-897 and FT-857 that I plan to use along with a dual band arrow antenna that I used several years ago during field day one time.? I have CAT cables for the radios on order for rig control.? I will probably go with SATPC32 for software unless someone has an idea on something better but it needs to be PC based.? Maybe free?? Right now the plan is to either hold the arrow antenna or mount to a tri-pod.? I need all of this to be as portable as possible as I am currently unable to setup a station at my QTH.? Am I missing anything?? Any suggestions? > > > 73 Matt > W5LL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pmcclosky at earthlink.net Thu Jul 12 15:35:49 2018 From: pmcclosky at earthlink.net (Peter J. McClosky) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 08:35:49 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Frequency build Message-ID: <5F317F8D-E202-40EA-AC3C-799DE4D64141@earthlink.net> Hello All, Does anyone have a (satellite) frequency build for the Kenwood TS-2000, that they would be willing to share? I purchased the TS-2000 in late May and love it on HF. I am now ready to start using it for ham sat?s (ssb & FM) and would like to save myself from figuring out each and every satellite. I also purchased the KRS-2000-USB programming software and cable for the radio. As you can tell I am completely new at this! Thank you, Peter, N7IY ----- Peter J. McClosky, N7IY Eugene, Oregon pmcclosky at earthlink.net n7iy at arrl.net http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky/ From mtseverin at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 16:34:24 2018 From: mtseverin at gmail.com (Matt Severin) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:34:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 1st QSOs Message-ID: Good afternoon, This week I have been working with a group of teachers at ARRL headquarters studying amateur radio and remote sensing. Part of my agenda is to decode satellite telemetry, and of course, make a QSO if possible. Thank you to all of the hams yesterday and today that made it possible for everyone in my group to make their first SAT QSOs, and in one case, her first (and second) QSO ever---and it was on the birds. They are grinning from ear to ear! We are in FN31 in CT. K1ECU KM6LYV KM6BXQ K6KWL KE0BIT KB0HOR KG4ZQY Thanks and 73! Matt, N8MS (normally in EN61) From cchunter3 at mindspring.com Thu Jul 12 17:35:47 2018 From: cchunter3 at mindspring.com (christy hunter) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:35:47 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 1626UTC 7/12 PASS CAMERA TEST Message-ID: I was hoping to get a partial decode on the camera test this am, but because it was a low pass (6deg) for me, the stronger signal from CAS-4B (also overhead at the time) high speed telemetry signal captured the telem decoder. Is there a way to prevent these stronger signals from over-powering the telem decoder AO-92 target frequency? (Don't read this as a complaint as having too many satellites) thanks, 73 Christy KB6LTY DM14 --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From n4ufo at yahoo.com Thu Jul 12 18:32:06 2018 From: n4ufo at yahoo.com (Kevin M) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 18:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] FM07 possibility this evening References: <266564402.3013629.1531420326940.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <266564402.3013629.1531420326940@mail.yahoo.com> Hello grid chasers, I am taking the wife on a drive up the Blue Ridge Parkway today towards Roanoke. I am aware that a few folks on the West Coast are in need of grid FM07, so I will be taking along my sat gear and attempting to make the FO-29 mid continent pass at 0124z. (evening of July 12th local, which is July 13th UTC) I will try below the middle of the pass band, unless there is QRM, etc. and then I will move above. Hopefully, things will be favorable.I may also try some XW birds or even the earlier eastern FO-29, but all will be subject to the whims of the wife and how events transpire. =^) Unfortunately, there is no convenient FM pass around that time... there is an SO-50 pass several hours earlier, but I read that there are some construction delays on the parkway (one lane sections) near Roanoke and I have my doubts that we will make it in time. If we do, I will try to get on. As for an FM pass afterwards, this is just a day trip and can't stay too late, we will be after midnight getting home as it is. I hope the FM only gangwill forgive me and overlook it. This is just the luck of the timing fitting in a pass or two on a day trip with the wifey... I hope everyone understands. I will bring my twitter tablet along, but will only have connectivity if near wifi. https://twitter.com/UFOrover? I may try to do a one way text tweet from my ancient flip phone, but remember I won't be able read any replies until later. No APRS tracking either this trip, for same reason. 73 all and good luck!? Happy summer to all...? Kevin N4UFO From wb4aeg at zoho.com Thu Jul 12 18:08:33 2018 From: wb4aeg at zoho.com (Hal Dale) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:08:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 1626UTC 7/12 PASS CAMERA TEST In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1648fae2b97.ca653d1b3818.5528134780140900@zoho.com> ?I have a FT847. Anyone have a suggested list of Sats to input in the memory?? Hal/WB4AEG From wa4sca at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 18:49:24 2018 From: wa4sca at gmail.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 13:49:24 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 1626UTC 7/12 PASS CAMERA TEST In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d41a11$0e2ad000$2a807000$@gmail.com> Christy, Nice problem, usually, to have a crowded sky. ;) That is a tough geometry. I had a similar problem with my earlier pass due to a thick stand of trees which attenuated the AO-92 signal. You didn't mention your equipment. The typical Elk/Arrow has a wide beamwidth, which is normally ideal, but makes it hard to reject a second signal in the same general area. If you have an antenna with a narrower beamwidth, you can sometimes reduce the interfering signal while still getting a usable signal for the target by careful pointing. FoxTelem with a FCD does a great job, but as you know it can be "spoofed" by a much stronger but similar signal. You can manually "steer" it a bit. I have a system where the dongle feeds SDR#, and then audio to FoxTelem. This does allow you to narrow the RX passband, and tune precisely to the desired signal. You can ignore CAS-4B so long as it is near but not overlapping AO-92, which sometimes happens due to Doppler. You do need to keep AO-92 carefully centered, either manually or with computer control. This general approach is discussed in the FoxTelem manual. While not hard, this approach is a bit more complicated, and may not be justified for very occasional work. Fortunately CAS-4B seldom causes a problem with the normal transponder downlink. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- References: <000001d41a11$0e2ad000$2a807000$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <018601d41a15$f3647730$da2d6590$@mindspring.com> What Alan said for sure. The previous pass they crossed paths very near to TCA. 91 was a bit stronger, but there was QRM. If it makes you feel better, no one got any images or pieces even on that last pass. 73, Drew KO4MA -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Alan Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 2:49 PM To: 'christy hunter' ; amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 1626UTC 7/12 PASS CAMERA TEST Christy, Nice problem, usually, to have a crowded sky. ;) That is a tough geometry. I had a similar problem with my earlier pass due to a thick stand of trees which attenuated the AO-92 signal. You didn't mention your equipment. The typical Elk/Arrow has a wide beamwidth, which is normally ideal, but makes it hard to reject a second signal in the same general area. If you have an antenna with a narrower beamwidth, you can sometimes reduce the interfering signal while still getting a usable signal for the target by careful pointing. FoxTelem with a FCD does a great job, but as you know it can be "spoofed" by a much stronger but similar signal. You can manually "steer" it a bit. I have a system where the dongle feeds SDR#, and then audio to FoxTelem. This does allow you to narrow the RX passband, and tune precisely to the desired signal. You can ignore CAS-4B so long as it is near but not overlapping AO-92, which sometimes happens due to Doppler. You do need to keep AO-92 carefully centered, either manually or with computer control. This general approach is discussed in the FoxTelem manual. While not hard, this approach is a bit more complicated, and may not be justified for very occasional work. Fortunately CAS-4B seldom causes a problem with the normal transponder downlink. 73, Alan WA4SCA <-----Original Message----- Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-12 20:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Space Port Area Conference for Educators (SPACE), Kennedy Space Center, FL (CASIS#4), telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Fri 2018-07-13 14:00:22 UTC 42 deg ? Essex Heights Primary School, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-17 08:24:52 UTC 85 deg ? 7th International Aerospace School. I.N. Sultanova Rep. Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Artemyev (***) Contact is a go for 2018-07-20 20:15 UTC (***) ? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-12 20:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1236. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1184. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-06-28 19:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From bruninga at usna.edu Fri Jul 13 00:27:54 2018 From: bruninga at usna.edu (Robert Bruninga) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:27:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Urgent Golden Packet need in SW VA 21 July! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: AMSAT ops? We urgently need someone with a D700 or D710 to drive to the top of Apple Orchard (AO) Mountain near Roanoke and Lynchburg and Comers Rock near Wythville along I 81. See details: http://aprs.org/hamtrails/AO.html http://aprs.org/hamtrails/comers-rock.html Its for 4 hours from 11 to 1500 on Saturday to be a digipeater for the annual AT Golden Packet Event. All the other 15 stations from Georgia to Canada along the Appalachian Trail are ready to go. Some operators are driving several hours to man those sites. We need to find two operators in SW VA to complete the chain. We do both 1200 and 9600 baud operation and so a D710 or D700 is required (or D72 with amplifier. Bob, WB4APR From wmc_jx at 163.com Fri Jul 13 01:57:55 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:57:55 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for This Weekend and Updated Live CD Download Link Message-ID: <2410cddb.336a.164915be413.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned: 14 Jul 2018 07:30:00 to 14 Jul 2018 09:30:00 14 Jul 2018 15:00:00 to 14 Jul 2018 17:00:00 15 Jul 2018 08:30:00 to 15 Jul 2018 10:00:00 15 Jul 2018 16:00:00 to 15 Jul 2018 18:00:00 All time in UTC. GMSK on both frequencies and JT4G on 436.4 for this week. Updated download link for live cd 20180620: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AD4lvie4L4Adx8AzrIiXULrvnLetnR1E/view?usp=sharing VY TNX & 73! Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From john at amber.org.uk Fri Jul 13 08:29:56 2018 From: john at amber.org.uk (John) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:29:56 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 1626UTC 7/12 PASS CAMERA TEST In-Reply-To: <1648fae2b97.ca653d1b3818.5528134780140900@zoho.com> References: <1648fae2b97.ca653d1b3818.5528134780140900@zoho.com> Message-ID: <01a001d41a83$aec808d0$0c581a70$@amber.org.uk> Hi Hal, I too have an FT-847, however instead of programming satellites into the memories, I let SatPC32 'get it right' for me, along with tuning for doppler and handling tones etc. It's a far easier solution. Otherwise, you could go through the AMSAT OSCAR Status page, and grab all the birds you're likely to want to work from that list. 73, John (XLX) -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hal Dale Sent: 12 July 2018 19:09 Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 1626UTC 7/12 PASS CAMERA TEST I have a FT847. Anyone have a suggested list of Sats to input in the memory?? Hal/WB4AEG _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Fri Jul 13 14:29:20 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 22:29:20 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] AirSpy & LNA questions Message-ID: <4138e0da-67b9-2e33-e609-debac5c713d0@msa.hinet.net> Man, this sat stuff is difficult and I was getting a bit frustrated with lack of progress, to be honest. But just when I thought I didn't get anywhere, I went a big leap forward. But I'm not there yet, so I need your input. My goal is to get some decent reception of the major telemetry sats, e.g. Funcube-1. I have two rigs: an ICOM IC820H and an AirSpy Mini SDR running on a Linux box with GQRX as front-end. I have a Chinese Arrow Alaska clone pointing 200 degrees with 20 degree elevation. The other antenna currently is a turnstile tuned for 137 MHz, but I have 2/70 DCAs as well (they had to come down this week because of a typhoon. Will be up again shortly). The bare antennas do fine on terrestrial signals, but up till now very few sats were heard (mostly the Xiwang sats and Athenoxat-1) and signals were very very weak. I got myself some proto boards and PGA103+ MMICs and built two LNAs according to schematics found on the web. On the workbench they perform as they should and give some 15-25 dB gain depending on what frequency is used. I use an old AM/FM signal generator and an RTL-SDR as crude scope since I don't have a real one. I mounted the LNAs as close as possible to the antennas and they are fed with a bias-T from Minikits.com.au. The first results were disappointing: I used the AirSpy and noticed a lot more signal but also an increased noise floor. With the AirSpy there is a lot of fiddling going on in the software and I managed to get some improvement by tweaking the LNA gain, Mix gain and IF gain. Still I couldn't hear any sat signals. This afternoon I switched from the AirSpy to the IC820H and lo-and-behold very strong beacon signals from XW2A and F; the strongest I've ever heard. Even the AirSpy did detect a signal, although not-at-all as great as the IC820H. To get a cleaner signal from the IC820H I did have to engage the attenuator on the set, though. Using the IC820H I also heard a very weak beacon signal from CO-65, but the AirSpy failed there. Conclusion: the IC820H could detect signals that the AirSpy could not detect at all or detect them much better. Pretty happy with this step forward, but not satisfied. Question is how to improve even more. Q1: is the LNA desensing the AirSpy (and to a lesses extend, the IC820H) and if so, how to fix that? I read something about an attenuation network after the LNA to improve the front-end of the receiver. Might that help? Q2: when not powered, MMICs seem to have a very high insertion loss. Is there a way to remotely bypass the LNA in order to compare reception with and without the LNA? Q3: would filtering help? E.g. bandpass filters for 2m and 70cm. I do realize that this would mean another couple of dB of insertion loss, but maybe that disadvantage outweighs the advantages. I would appreciate any input on the above and also would like to hear from others who use the AirSpy Mini for sat reception. I already did a lot of googling, but can't find any clear cut answers. Hope you all can help me go into the right direction. Cheers, Hans BX2ABT From rbutler at tsss.org Fri Jul 13 14:41:09 2018 From: rbutler at tsss.org (Ryan Butler) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:41:09 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AirSpy & LNA questions In-Reply-To: <4138e0da-67b9-2e33-e609-debac5c713d0@msa.hinet.net> References: <4138e0da-67b9-2e33-e609-debac5c713d0@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: Yes you are on the right track, check out the following two links (similar designs) but also provides a description of why bandpass filtering is a must with an SDR. https://www.rtl-sdr.com/designing-low-noise-uhf-front-end-sharp-filtering-sdr/ https://sivantoledotech.wordpress.com/2015/01/27/a-selective-and-robust-uhf-front-end/ Ryan, NF0T On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:30 AM Hans BX2ABT wrote: > Man, this sat stuff is difficult and I was getting a bit frustrated with > lack of progress, to be honest. But just when I thought I didn't get > anywhere, I went a big leap forward. But I'm not there yet, so I need > your input. > > My goal is to get some decent reception of the major telemetry sats, > e.g. Funcube-1. I have two rigs: an ICOM IC820H and an AirSpy Mini SDR > running on a Linux box with GQRX as front-end. I have a Chinese Arrow > Alaska clone pointing 200 degrees with 20 degree elevation. The other > antenna currently is a turnstile tuned for 137 MHz, but I have 2/70 DCAs > as well (they had to come down this week because of a typhoon. Will be > up again shortly). > > The bare antennas do fine on terrestrial signals, but up till now very > few sats were heard (mostly the Xiwang sats and Athenoxat-1) and signals > were very very weak. I got myself some proto boards and PGA103+ MMICs > and built two LNAs according to schematics found on the web. On the > workbench they perform as they should and give some 15-25 dB gain > depending on what frequency is used. I use an old AM/FM signal generator > and an RTL-SDR as crude scope since I don't have a real one. > > I mounted the LNAs as close as possible to the antennas and they are fed > with a bias-T from Minikits.com.au. The first results were > disappointing: I used the AirSpy and noticed a lot more signal but also > an increased noise floor. With the AirSpy there is a lot of fiddling > going on in the software and I managed to get some improvement by > tweaking the LNA gain, Mix gain and IF gain. Still I couldn't hear any > sat signals. > > This afternoon I switched from the AirSpy to the IC820H and > lo-and-behold very strong beacon signals from XW2A and F; the strongest > I've ever heard. Even the AirSpy did detect a signal, although > not-at-all as great as the IC820H. To get a cleaner signal from the > IC820H I did have to engage the attenuator on the set, though. Using the > IC820H I also heard a very weak beacon signal from CO-65, but the AirSpy > failed there. Conclusion: the IC820H could detect signals that the > AirSpy could not detect at all or detect them much better. > > Pretty happy with this step forward, but not satisfied. Question is how > to improve even more. > > Q1: is the LNA desensing the AirSpy (and to a lesses extend, the IC820H) > and if so, how to fix that? I read something about an attenuation > network after the LNA to improve the front-end of the receiver. Might > that help? > > Q2: when not powered, MMICs seem to have a very high insertion loss. Is > there a way to remotely bypass the LNA in order to compare reception > with and without the LNA? > > Q3: would filtering help? E.g. bandpass filters for 2m and 70cm. I do > realize that this would mean another couple of dB of insertion loss, but > maybe that disadvantage outweighs the advantages. > > I would appreciate any input on the above and also would like to hear > from others who use the AirSpy Mini for sat reception. I already did a > lot of googling, but can't find any clear cut answers. Hope you all can > help me go into the right direction. Cheers, > > Hans > BX2ABT > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zleffke at vt.edu Fri Jul 13 16:08:37 2018 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 12:08:37 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Camera Passes this week -- A big fat THANK YOU!! Message-ID: <390975d7-610a-f68e-1429-9c7888107d61@vt.edu> Hello fellow AMSAT'ers, I just wanted to send out a quick thanks to all for supporting the camera passes over the last couple days.? We did a demo here at VT on 7/12 for a large group of Middle Schoolers and they were definitely wowed by the Camera images.? We were also able to monitor a bit of audio on the FM downlink as the satellite rose on Blacksburg, but before it was kicked into Camera Mode.? I was able to show them the footprint with our tracking program and explained how we wouldn't start to see images until the footprint crossed into Florida in order for Drew to kick the bird into camera mode. Before the pass I had them guess what kinds of things we might see, and they were pretty excited when they saw their guesses were pretty close (clouds, coastlines, ocean, etc........one kid was disappointed that there were no aliens...:-) ). While we were able to get a good number of images direct in Blacksburg (including the shot of Cape Cod, Pic 86), it was very reassuring to know if I bungled the local station demo that I could jump to the website and show them images there collected from the community!? So many thanks to all out there for the backup.? And many thanks to Drew and the Ops Team for accommodating us with the Camera Mode request.? It felt really great showing kids visiting VT images from Space from a camera built at VT! Overall great success!.....Made possible in no small part thanks to the entire AMSAT community.? So on behalf of VT....THANK YOU !!!!! -Zach, KJ4QLP -- Research Associate Aerospace Systems Lab Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 From zleffke at vt.edu Fri Jul 13 16:27:22 2018 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 12:27:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 1626UTC 7/12 PASS CAMERA TEST In-Reply-To: <01a001d41a83$aec808d0$0c581a70$@amber.org.uk> References: <1648fae2b97.ca653d1b3818.5528134780140900@zoho.com> <01a001d41a83$aec808d0$0c581a70$@amber.org.uk> Message-ID: We also experienced a good bit of QRM on the the AO-92 downlink towards the end of the pass previous to the one mentioned in the subject line (~1450 UTC) during our demo yesterday.? We had the same problem (though less of an effect) the day prior during testing of our setup, but slightly offset in time (the QRM showed up just before the 7/11 ~1515 UTC AO-92 pass).? Definitely had the doppler shift features indicating it was another satellite in the 2m band and close to the AO-92 downlink.? On the 7/12 1450UTC pass, the interferer was strong enough that it 'edged out' the AO-92 downlink and was captured by our doppler correction loop (ending the demo, but that was OK because we already got a few images direct, and then I jumped to the website to show them more images recovered by the community). We used GNU Radio married to FoxTelem for the passes.? I have the recorded IQ files for both passes where the , but haven't had a chance to go back and investigate what exactly was going on or hunt for which bird was the 'culprit' though now it seems CAS-4B is a good suspect......If I get a chance I'll play around with the flowgraph and see if I can manually tune in the AO-92 signal and filter out the interferer to see if I can recover any more telemetry/camera pieces. Just offering another data point and similar experiences... -Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Aerospace Systems Lab Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 7/13/2018 4:29 AM, John wrote: > Hi Hal, > > I too have an FT-847, however instead of programming satellites into the memories, I let SatPC32 'get it right' for me, along with tuning for doppler and handling tones etc. It's a far easier solution. > > Otherwise, you could go through the AMSAT OSCAR Status page, and grab all the birds you're likely to want to work from that list. > > 73, > John (XLX) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Hal Dale > Sent: 12 July 2018 19:09 > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-92 1626UTC 7/12 PASS CAMERA TEST > > I have a FT847. Anyone have a suggested list of Sats to input in the memory?? Hal/WB4AEG _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From anthonywiese at yahoo.com Fri Jul 13 16:23:04 2018 From: anthonywiese at yahoo.com (Anthony Wiese) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 16:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] CM79 References: <68673045.3560414.1531498984837.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <68673045.3560414.1531498984837@mail.yahoo.com> Hello All,? Look for me this afternoon's two passes of SO-50 from CM79.? Moved the trip one day early because of weather concerns for the weekend.? Thunderstorms, excessive heat warnings, etc.? Have no fear if you miss me.? Again, this is more of recon mission for a grander activation later on in the year.Cheers,Anthony From bryan at kl7cn.net Fri Jul 13 17:25:08 2018 From: bryan at kl7cn.net (Bryan KL7CN) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:25:08 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] CM79 In-Reply-To: <68673045.3560414.1531498984837@mail.yahoo.com> References: <68673045.3560414.1531498984837.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <68673045.3560414.1531498984837@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BE5FA81-7524-4C52-9EB7-AC07B39EA5E0@kl7cn.net> Anthony, well done! Will you use LotW for confirmation? -- bag Bryan KL7CN/W6 Location: CM98, usually E-Mail: bryan at KL7CN.net Telephone/SMS: 408-836-7279 > On Jul 13, 2018, at 09:23, Anthony Wiese via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Hello All, Look for me this afternoon's two passes of SO-50 from CM79. Moved the trip one day early because of weather concerns for the weekend. Thunderstorms, excessive heat warnings, etc. Have no fear if you miss me. Again, this is more of recon mission for a grander activation later on in the year.Cheers,Anthony > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tasmac at w5pfg.us Fri Jul 13 18:28:58 2018 From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 13:28:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] New Mexico Museum of SPACE HISTORY Message-ID: <458462c1-1bd5-ab12-120f-b7ad33d4b99f@w5pfg.us> A few weeks ago, my wife and I were on a small road trip around New Mexico and stumbled upon the most delightful discovery... The New Mexico Museum of SPACE HISTORY. We had planned for lunch in Alamogordo and a quick visit to White Sands National Monument, but the museum made it into a longer visit. It is not a large museum by any means. Some of the artifacts may be things you have seen at other space museums but it is most definitely worth a few hours of your time. The location and its view of White Sands off in the distance is impressive. The architect and team that laid out the exhibits get an A+ for flow and content. http://www.nmspacemuseum.org/ 73, Clayton W5PFG From jim at milnet.uk.net Fri Jul 13 19:22:24 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 20:22:24 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73/FUNcube-1 Operations Message-ID: <5B82275FAE46463F85D52CD8B17D0FF7@jimPC2> Hi All, The spacecraft is now operating in continuous transponder mode. Plan is to switch to Educational mode on Sunday PM UTC as usual. Have fun 73 Jim G3WGM and the FUNCube team From johnbrier at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 20:07:44 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 16:07:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-92 Camera Passes this week -- A big fat THANK YOU!! In-Reply-To: <390975d7-610a-f68e-1429-9c7888107d61@vt.edu> References: <390975d7-610a-f68e-1429-9c7888107d61@vt.edu> Message-ID: Awesome Zach. Thats sounds like it was a fun time. Congrats to all involved in making things like this possible. 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 12:16 Zach Leffke wrote: > Hello fellow AMSAT'ers, > > I just wanted to send out a quick thanks to all for supporting the > camera passes over the last couple days. We did a demo here at VT on > 7/12 for a large group of Middle Schoolers and they were definitely > wowed by the Camera images. We were also able to monitor a bit of audio > on the FM downlink as the satellite rose on Blacksburg, but before it > was kicked into Camera Mode. I was able to show them the footprint with > our tracking program and explained how we wouldn't start to see images > until the footprint crossed into Florida in order for Drew to kick the > bird into camera mode. Before the pass I had them guess what kinds of > things we might see, and they were pretty excited when they saw their > guesses were pretty close (clouds, coastlines, ocean, etc........one kid > was disappointed that there were no aliens...:-) ). > > While we were able to get a good number of images direct in Blacksburg > (including the shot of Cape Cod, Pic 86), it was very reassuring to know > if I bungled the local station demo that I could jump to the website and > show them images there collected from the community! So many thanks to > all out there for the backup. And many thanks to Drew and the Ops Team > for accommodating us with the Camera Mode request. It felt really great > showing kids visiting VT images from Space from a camera built at VT! > > > Overall great success!.....Made possible in no small part thanks to the > entire AMSAT community. So on behalf of VT....THANK YOU !!!!! > > > > -Zach, KJ4QLP > > -- > Research Associate > Aerospace Systems Lab > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From aj9n at aol.com Fri Jul 13 20:45:21 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 16:45:21 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-13 21:00 UTC Message-ID: <16495641330-c8b-4db3@webjas-vab052.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-13 21:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Space Port Area Conference for Educators (SPACE), Kennedy Space Center, FL (CASIS#4) participating school Burns Science & Technology Charter School, Oak Hill, FL, telebridge via W6SRJ (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact was successful: Fri 2018-07-13 14:00:22 UTC 42 deg (***) ? Essex Heights Primary School, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-17 08:24:52 UTC 85 deg ? 7th International Aerospace School. I.N. Sultanova Rep. Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Artemyev Contact is a go for 2018-07-20 20:15 UTC ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-13 21:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1237. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1185. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-07-13 21:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Sat Jul 14 03:01:10 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 11:01:10 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] AirSpy & LNA questions In-Reply-To: References: <4138e0da-67b9-2e33-e609-debac5c713d0@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <22806971-2b20-ed75-6e35-d34dc04b299d@msa.hinet.net> Hello Ryan, Thanks for your reply. The article was very interesting, but as stated: finding SAW filters suitable for other bands might prove difficult. Up till now I haven't found a suitable SAW filter for 2 meters. The helical filters are easier to get as Temell has a range especially suited for ham bands. They're a Taiwanese company, so this time I'm lucky and can order them locally. As someone else pointed out: an FM band notch filter might also help, so that will get on my list as well. 73 de Hans BX2ABT On 07/13/2018 10:41 PM, Ryan Butler wrote: > Yes you are on the right track, check out the following two links > (similar designs) but also provides a description of why bandpass > filtering is a must with an SDR. > > https://www.rtl-sdr.com/designing-low-noise-uhf-front-end-sharp-filtering-sdr/ > https://sivantoledotech.wordpress.com/2015/01/27/a-selective-and-robust-uhf-front-end/ > > Ryan, NF0T > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:30 AM Hans BX2ABT > wrote: > > Man, this sat stuff is difficult and I was getting a bit > frustrated with > lack of progress, to be honest. But just when I thought I didn't get > anywhere, I went a big leap forward. But I'm not there yet, so I need > your input. > > My goal is to get some decent reception of the major telemetry sats, > e.g. Funcube-1. I have two rigs: an ICOM IC820H and an AirSpy Mini > SDR > running on a Linux box with GQRX as front-end. I have a Chinese Arrow > Alaska clone pointing 200 degrees with 20 degree elevation. The other > antenna currently is a turnstile tuned for 137 MHz, but I have > 2/70 DCAs > as well (they had to come down this week because of a typhoon. > Will be > up again shortly). > > The bare antennas do fine on terrestrial signals, but up till now > very > few sats were heard (mostly the Xiwang sats and Athenoxat-1) and > signals > were very very weak. I got myself some proto boards and PGA103+ MMICs > and built two LNAs according to schematics found on the web. On the > workbench they perform as they should and give some 15-25 dB gain > depending on what frequency is used. I use an old AM/FM signal > generator > and an RTL-SDR as crude scope since I don't have a real one. > > I mounted the LNAs as close as possible to the antennas and they > are fed > with a bias-T from Minikits.com.au . The > first results were > disappointing: I used the AirSpy and noticed a lot more signal but > also > an increased noise floor. With the AirSpy there is a lot of fiddling > going on in the software and I managed to get some improvement by > tweaking the LNA gain, Mix gain and IF gain. Still I couldn't hear > any > sat signals. > > This afternoon I switched from the AirSpy to the IC820H and > lo-and-behold very strong beacon signals from XW2A and F; the > strongest > I've ever heard. Even the AirSpy did detect a signal, although > not-at-all as great as the IC820H. To get a cleaner signal from the > IC820H I did have to engage the attenuator on the set, though. > Using the > IC820H I also heard a very weak beacon signal from CO-65, but the > AirSpy > failed there. Conclusion: the IC820H could detect signals that the > AirSpy could not detect at all or detect them much better. > > Pretty happy with this step forward, but not satisfied. Question > is how > to improve even more. > > Q1: is the LNA desensing the AirSpy (and to a lesses extend, the > IC820H) > and if so, how to fix that? I read something about an attenuation > network after the LNA to improve the front-end of the receiver. Might > that help? > > Q2: when not powered, MMICs seem to have a very high insertion > loss. Is > there a way to remotely bypass the LNA in order to compare reception > with and without the LNA? > > Q3: would filtering help? E.g. bandpass filters for 2m and 70cm. I do > realize that this would mean another couple of dB of insertion > loss, but > maybe that disadvantage outweighs the advantages. > > I would appreciate any input on the above and also would like to hear > from others who use the AirSpy Mini for sat reception. I already > did a > lot of googling, but can't find any clear cut answers. Hope you > all can > help me go into the right direction. Cheers, > > Hans > BX2ABT > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA > makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From ad0dx at yahoo.com Sun Jul 15 00:45:19 2018 From: ad0dx at yahoo.com (Ron Bondy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 00:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] New Software Tool for Verifying If Roving Locations Are Within Your VUCC Circle References: <2014076896.4514413.1531615519674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2014076896.4514413.1531615519674@mail.yahoo.com> I have written a software tool in Python for determining if a set of local rover locations (specified in decimal degrees latitude and longitude) are all within 200km of each other.? I used this for myself to determine which of my local roving locations were within my 200km VUCC circle. The script uses the Haversine method for determining the distance between two locations on the earths surface, assuming the earth has a constant radius.? References are given in the readme.txt file provided below in the DropBox folder. It's a good planning tool too; if I'm going to go roving to a new local spot then I'd prefer to rove to a location within my VUCC circle so my contacts count toward my VUCC award totals. This is a Python script that is run from the command line, so I'm sorry but there is no user interface.? If you're not sure what the command line is and you've never heard of the Python programming language this software tool is probably not for you. You can download the files here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xkvbaj41060h4vy/AAC0n_D3uDAjEgWwcwxxxjnba?dl=0 The DropBox folder contains the Python script, along with ad0dx_vucc_circle.txt, the file with my roving locations to give you an example of how to use the script.?? A readme.txt file is provided to give some more background and also a results file with the results from using the script on my roving locations file.? You could examine the results file to determine if you think this Python script might be useful to you. Another great application is to put all your local WalMart's in the file to confirm if those WMPLOTA locations count toward your VUCC totals. Currently only latitude and longitude in decimal degrees are supported for locations. I haven't actually found the center of my own VUCC cirle at this point, but the tool has let me confirm and investigate all the locations I use for roving.? It turns out for me that the DM68 69 78 79 four corner grid is in my circle as well as the location I operate from on the DM 88 89 grid line.? My qth is in DM78 and is close to 39N latitude so DM79 is just a few miles north of me.? The tool has shown me that I can also include DM77 in my VUCC circle, so that gives me a lot of options for roaming and counting grids towards my VUCC award. If you have any questions or comments please contact me off list at ad0dx at yahoo dot com. Thanks and 73's, Ron, ad0dx From johnv at frontier.com Sun Jul 15 03:22:20 2018 From: johnv at frontier.com (johnv at frontier.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 03:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 References: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 I hope I found a public street corner that bisects CN87 and CN97 in Snohomish County WA.????? I believe I will have line of sight for most of the 11 minutes. Hope to hear you and this is a new one for you. John N7AME From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 03:32:57 2018 From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 19:32:57 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 In-Reply-To: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> References: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi John, Just a reminder that AO-92 was just commanded into L/v mode a couple hours ago and will be in that mode until about 0200Z on Tuesday. If you're L band equipped, excellent, but if not maybe find an alternate pass. 73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 7:24 PM johnv at frontier.com wrote: > Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 > > I hope I found a public street corner that bisects CN87 and CN97 in > Snohomish County WA. I believe I will have line of sight for most of > the 11 minutes. > Hope to hear you and this is a new one for you. > John > > N7AME > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Sun Jul 15 03:37:49 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 03:37:49 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Gabe! Since AO-92 was commanded into L/V mode this evening, it should be back to U/V mode Sunday evening - in time for the planned CN87/97 activation on Monday morning. AO-92 only stays in L/V for up to 24 hours at a time. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:32 AM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: > Hi John, > > Just a reminder that AO-92 was just commanded into L/v mode a couple hours > ago and will be in that mode until about 0200Z on Tuesday. If you're L band > equipped, excellent, but if not maybe find an alternate pass. > > 73, > Gabe > AL6D/VE6NJH > > From glasbrenner at mindspring.com Sun Jul 15 03:40:38 2018 From: glasbrenner at mindspring.com (Andrew Glasbrenner) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 23:40:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It will revert to U/v at approximately 0216Z 7/16, or Sunday evening US local time. L/v mode runs on a 24 hour timer. 73, Drew KO4MA > On Jul 14, 2018, at 11:32 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: > > Hi John, > > Just a reminder that AO-92 was just commanded into L/v mode a couple hours > ago and will be in that mode until about 0200Z on Tuesday. If you're L band > equipped, excellent, but if not maybe find an alternate pass. > > 73, > Gabe > AL6D/VE6NJH > >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 7:24 PM johnv at frontier.com wrote: >> >> Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 >> >> I hope I found a public street corner that bisects CN87 and CN97 in >> Snohomish County WA. I believe I will have line of sight for most of >> the 11 minutes. >> Hope to hear you and this is a new one for you. >> John >> >> N7AME >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnv at frontier.com Sun Jul 15 03:56:26 2018 From: johnv at frontier.com (johnv at frontier.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 03:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1545108953.4603601.1531626986526@mail.yahoo.com> I guess I missed the news... But what does "L band" mean since I'm relativity new to this?????? I only have FM capabilities. On Saturday, July 14, 2018 8:33 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: Hi John, Just a reminder that AO-92 was just commanded into L/v mode a couple hours ago and will be in that mode until about 0200Z on Tuesday. If you're L band equipped, excellent, but if not maybe find an alternate pass.? 73,GabeAL6D/VE6NJH On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 7:24 PM johnv at frontier.com wrote: Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 I hope I found a public street corner that bisects CN87 and CN97 in Snohomish County WA.????? I believe I will have line of sight for most of the 11 minutes. Hope to hear you and this is a new one for you. John N7AME _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jeff30339 at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 04:30:36 2018 From: jeff30339 at gmail.com (Jeff) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 23:30:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 In-Reply-To: <1545108953.4603601.1531626986526@mail.yahoo.com> References: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> <1545108953.4603601.1531626986526@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03842C6A-2A4B-42B0-B6E0-3135E065574F@gmail.com> 1.2 GHz uplink > On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:56 PM, "johnv at frontier.com" wrote: > > I guess I missed the news... But what does "L band" mean since I'm relativity new to this? I only have FM capabilities. > > On Saturday, July 14, 2018 8:33 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: > > > Hi John, > Just a reminder that AO-92 was just commanded into L/v mode a couple hours ago and will be in that mode until about 0200Z on Tuesday. If you're L band equipped, excellent, but if not maybe find an alternate pass. > 73,GabeAL6D/VE6NJH > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 7:24 PM johnv at frontier.com wrote: > > Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 > > I hope I found a public street corner that bisects CN87 and CN97 in Snohomish County WA. I believe I will have line of sight for most of the 11 minutes. > Hope to hear you and this is a new one for you. > John > > N7AME > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 08:11:11 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:11:11 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Not able to decode 1KUNS-PF - Can anyone help? Message-ID: Good afternoon, I have been trying to decode 1KUNS-PF fo the past 2 weeks without success in spite the signal received is sometimes strong. I used the UZ0HO Soundmodem specially written by Andrei for this bird with default settings. I can see the signal on the Soundmodem waterfall but no decode. I tried to play with the bandwidth and filters without success. Any hints? 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) From cjhurst at bigpond.net.au Sun Jul 15 11:37:41 2018 From: cjhurst at bigpond.net.au (Colin Hurst) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 21:07:41 +0930 Subject: [amsat-bb] Not able to decode 1KUNS-PF - Can anyone help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01b301d41c30$3df21430$b9d63c90$@net.au> Jean Marc, 1KUNS-PF has been downloading 2k4 and 4k8 data in recent weeks. Please download the other-versions.zip file dated 11th July 2018 from Andrei UZ7HO's website. It now has 1k2, 2k4 and 4k8 decoding files the 1KUNS-PF folder. 73 Colin VK5HI. -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jean Marc Momple Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:41 To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Not able to decode 1KUNS-PF - Can anyone help? Good afternoon, I have been trying to decode 1KUNS-PF fo the past 2 weeks without success in spite the signal received is sometimes strong. I used the UZ0HO Soundmodem specially written by Andrei for this bird with default settings. I can see the signal on the Soundmodem waterfall but no decode. I tried to play with the bandwidth and filters without success. Any hints? 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Sun Jul 15 13:46:26 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 21:46:26 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio file to KISS Message-ID: Is there a (hopefully Linux) way to turn an audio recording into a KISS file? Why? Because...... I got fairly strong signals from XW2D today and saw the GMSK data stream showing up for the first time. Having no idea about what to do with it I decided to simply record an audio file. I downloaded the XW2 telemetry program from DK3WN's website and after an hour of trying got it to work on Linux, under Wine. But....it only takes KISS files. I googled around a bit, but didn't fine any program or method for turning my audio file into a KISS file. Does anybody have any experience with doing such a thing? Cheers, Hans BX2ABT From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 06:22:22 2018 From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 22:22:22 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Patrick, Oops, I suppose I screwed up the days and thought the operation was for tomorrow. I forget what day it is... 73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 7:37 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > Hi Gabe! > > Since AO-92 was commanded into L/V mode this evening, it should > be back to U/V mode Sunday evening - in time for the planned > CN87/97 activation on Monday morning. AO-92 only stays in L/V > for up to 24 hours at a time. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:32 AM, Gabriel Zeifman > wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> Just a reminder that AO-92 was just commanded into L/v mode a couple hours >> ago and will be in that mode until about 0200Z on Tuesday. If you're L >> band >> equipped, excellent, but if not maybe find an alternate pass. >> >> 73, >> Gabe >> AL6D/VE6NJH >> >> From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 13:53:55 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 17:53:55 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Not able to decode 1KUNS-PF - Can anyone help? - Succeeded thanks to VK5HI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3359D41A-FB07-4734-A722-9531DF868051@gmail.com> Hi All, I was able to decode 1KUNS-PF, the issue was wrong speed, I download the new one from UZ0HO site and it work out well during a short pass at 2 deg. ele. max. Thanks to Colin (VK5HI) who guided me in the right direction. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > I have been trying to decode 1KUNS-PF fo the past 2 weeks without success in spite the signal received is sometimes strong. > > I used the UZ0HO Soundmodem specially written by Andrei for this bird with default settings. I can see the signal on the Soundmodem waterfall but no decode. I tried to play with the bandwidth and filters without success. > > Any hints? > > 73 > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Sun Jul 15 14:04:06 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 22:04:06 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? Message-ID: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> Could you please take a look at this image ? I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? 73 de Hans BX2ABT From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 14:18:11 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 18:18:11 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> Hans, This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got same at time this bird was supposed to be over my area. Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ . 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU > On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > > Could you please take a look at this image ? I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? > > 73 de Hans > > BX2ABT > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From almetco at comcast.net Sun Jul 15 14:19:32 2018 From: almetco at comcast.net (Greg) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 10:19:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: Not even going to pretend that I now what it is, but it looks like a signal with Doppler? I?d like to know the answer to your question as well. Greg N3MVF On Jul 15, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: Could you please take a look at this image ? I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? 73 de Hans BX2ABT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Sun Jul 15 14:42:53 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 22:42:53 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of July 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over your area at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > Hans, > > This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got same > at time this bird was supposed to be over my area. > > Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog > http://www.dk3wn.info/p/. > > 73 > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU > >> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT > > wrote: >> >> Could you please take a look at this image >> ? >> I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? >> >> 73 de Hans >> >> BX2ABT >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA >> makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From darren.long at mac.com Sun Jul 15 14:18:09 2018 From: darren.long at mac.com (Darren Long) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:18:09 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <3be1ecde-19fc-136b-2f9c-248cb0b89d90@mac.com> Could it be aircraft scatter with doppler? Darren, G0HWW On 15/07/18 15:04, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > Could you please take a look at this image > ? > I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? > > 73 de Hans > > BX2ABT > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 15:22:48 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 19:22:48 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <56447C41-A5C1-4E3A-87EC-52CAAA1C4CAE@gmail.com> Hans, N2YO.com , as I said (I believe) and not 100% that it was XW-2E but seems so, I believe it was this bird that I received but not as the time was same per N2YO and the frequency also As regards your observation, the waterfall is same as mine, with the same drift which indicates that the frequency is unstable on board as looking like a PLL trying to lock. May be some more competent OM on the BB may give some more light on this. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > > Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of July 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over your area at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT > > On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >> Hans, >> >> This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got same at time this bird was supposed to be over my area. >> >> Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ . >> >> 73 >> >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU >> >>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT > wrote: >>> >>> Could you please take a look at this image >? I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? >>> >>> 73 de Hans >>> >>> BX2ABT >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > From kb1pvh at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 15:32:30 2018 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:32:30 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <3be1ecde-19fc-136b-2f9c-248cb0b89d90@mac.com> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <3be1ecde-19fc-136b-2f9c-248cb0b89d90@mac.com> Message-ID: Could it be the 'fox tail' from AO-92? Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S9 On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 11:20 AM Darren Long via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Could it be aircraft scatter with doppler? > > Darren, G0HWW > > On 15/07/18 15:04, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > > Could you please take a look at this image > > ? > > I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? > > > > 73 de Hans > > > > BX2ABT > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From scott23192 at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 16:00:07 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:00:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: Hello! As others have mentioned, this is XW-2E. Here is a tweet w/ screen shot that I posted the other day showing ALL of the transmitters doing more-or-less the same thing: https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1013583542096416768 73! -Scott, K4KDR ========================== On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that > time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of July > 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over your area > at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT > > > On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > >> Hans, >> >> This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got same at >> time this bird was supposed to be over my area. >> >> Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog >> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/. >> >> 73 >> >> >> Jean Marc (3B8DU >> >> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT >> > wrote: >>> >>> Could you please take a look at this image < >>> http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/image/20180715_1747-baffled.png>? >>> I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? >>> >>> 73 de Hans >>> >>> BX2ABT >> >> From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Sun Jul 15 16:00:04 2018 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 18:00:04 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio file to KISS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 15-07-2018 15:46, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > Is there a (hopefully Linux) way to turn an audio recording into a KISS > file? Hello Hans, Replay the audio file and redirect the output to a decoder, Direwolf should work. An example how to redirect can be found at: http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/unix-tlm-decoding/ > > Hans > > BX2ABT Regards, Jan - PE0SAT -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/ Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/ irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 16:17:52 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 20:17:52 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: Scott, I believe that it was your post on twitter which trigger my check on N2YO when I receive same so to ascertain that it was XW-2E, if not I would probably to thought of it. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jul 15, 2018, at 8:00 PM, Scott wrote: > > Hello! > > As others have mentioned, this is XW-2E. Here is a tweet w/ screen shot > that I posted the other day showing ALL of the transmitters doing > more-or-less the same thing: > > https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1013583542096416768 > > 73! > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > ========================== > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Hans BX2ABT > wrote: > >> Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that >> time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of July >> 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over your area >> at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT >> >> >> On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >> >>> Hans, >>> >>> This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got same at >>> time this bird was supposed to be over my area. >>> >>> Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog >>> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> Jean Marc (3B8DU >>> >>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Could you please take a look at this image < >>>> http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/image/20180715_1747-baffled.png>? >>>> I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? >>>> >>>> 73 de Hans >>>> >>>> BX2ABT >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnv at frontier.com Sun Jul 15 14:08:54 2018 From: johnv at frontier.com (johnv at frontier.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 14:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and CN97 on Monday morning @ 1806 utc using AO-92 In-Reply-To: References: <585858845.4601168.1531624940137.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <585858845.4601168.1531624940137@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1853463092.4690728.1531663734959@mail.yahoo.com> So, I'm on for Monday with UHF/VHF and best get a 23cm antenna for when it is switched.? BTW, What is the criteria for AO-92 (or any other) changing its up/down link frequency? John On Sunday, July 15, 2018 6:52 AM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: Hi Patrick, Oops, I suppose I screwed up the days and thought the operation was for tomorrow. I forget what day it is... 73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 7:37 PM Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) < amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net> wrote: > Hi Gabe! > > Since AO-92 was commanded into L/V mode this evening, it should > be back to U/V mode Sunday evening - in time for the planned > CN87/97 activation on Monday morning. AO-92 only stays in L/V > for up to 24 hours at a time. > > 73! > > > > > Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK > http://www.wd9ewk.net/ > Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK > > > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:32 AM, Gabriel Zeifman > wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> Just a reminder that AO-92 was just commanded into L/v mode a couple hours >> ago and will be in that mode until about 0200Z on Tuesday. 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July 15, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-196.01 AMSAT-NA Files Comments on FCC Docket #18-86 Small Satellite Licensing Procedures On July 9, 2018, AMSAT filed comments with the Federal Communications Commission on their Notice of Proposed Rulemaking In the Matter of Streamlining Licensing Procedures for Small Satellites (International Bureau Docket #18-86). AMSAT's comments as filed can be found at: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filing/10709067911864 (A copy of AMSAT's comments document can be accessed on the ECFS page, using the Document Download link) In the comments, AMSAT reviewed the significant contributions made by the organization and the amateur radio community. The comments note that the many scientific and technological achievements made by AMSAT satellites directly led to many groups, including government, non-profit, and commercial organizations becoming interested in developing small satellites of their own. AMSAT also discussed the suitability of authorizing certain satellites built by universities and non-profit organizations in the amateur satellite service and expressed opposition to satellites licensed as experimental under Part 5 of the Commission's regulations operating in the amateur satellite service bands. Interested parties may file reply comments on or before August 7, 2018. [ANS thanks AMSAT Executive Vice-President, Paul Stoetzer, N8HM for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- CubeSats to Deploy from International Space Station on July 13 Japan?s space agency JAXA has announced that nine CubeSats will be deployed from the International Space Station on July 13. Three of the satellites - EnduroSat AD, EQUISat, and MemSat - will transmit telemetry in the 70-centimeter Amateur Radio band. EnduroSat AD will transmit on 437.050 MHz (CW, 9.6 kB GFSK); EQUISat will transmit on 435.550 MHz (CW, 9.6 kB FSK), and MemSat will transmit on 437.350 MHz (9.6 kB BPSK). [ANS thanks ARRL News for the above information.] --------------------------------------------------------------------- BIRDS-2 Constellation CubeSats Transported to ISS for August Deployment The second generation of CubeSats in the BIRDS constellation now is on board the International Space Station (ISS) and set for deployment in early August using the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) module?s remote manipulator arm. The June 29 SpaceX Falcon 9 launch carried the BIRDS-2 CubeSats, MAYA-1, BHUTAN-1, and UiTMSAT-1, built by students from Malaysia, Bhutan, and the Philippines at the hosting Kyushu Institute of Technology in Japan. All CubeSats have identical designs and utilize the same frequencies. While independently made, operation and control of the three CubeSats will be shared by three teams after the spacecraft are released into space. All three CubeSats will transmit a CW beacon on 437.375 MHz. They will be operational for 6 months. ?The three will form a constellation, orbiting the Earth from different places. This will provide the countries more opportunities to make measurements and run experiments than just with using one CubeSat, explained Joel Joseph Marciano, Jr., manager of the PHL- Microsat program in the Philippines. The primary mission of BIRDS-2 CubeSat constellation is to provide digital message relay service to the Amateur Radio community by means of an onboard APRS digipeater on a frequency of 145.825 MHz. Another mission of the BIRDS-2 CubeSat constellation is to demonstrate a store-and-forward system, investigating technical challenges through experiments on appropriate data format, multiple access scheme, and file-handling protocol while complying with limited operational time and power constraints. The BIRDS-2 CubeSat store-and-forward system will collect data from remote ground sensors, store it onboard, and download it to the BIRDS-2 ground station network, begun last year during the BIRDS-1 CubeSat constellation project. The CubeSats will carry two identical cameras with different lenses to capture images with varying resolution. The cameras will also be used to capture a minimum-resolution video from space for experimental purpose. The CubeSats will also carry magnetic field sensors to measure the magnetic field in space and compare it with that measured on ground. Additional experiments will use the BIRDS-2 CubeSat constellation to enhance research and experiment in single latch-up event detection, magnetic field measurements, and flight testing of a newly designed GPS chip to demonstrate its low-power operation capabilities in space. Students will also explore a passive attitude stabilization mechanism. All measurements and image data will be made available on the BIRDS-2 project website. BIRDS-2 aims to promote awareness of Amateur Radio communication and Amateur Satellites among the general public and students, especially in the participating nations. [ANS thanks AMSAT News Service for the above information.] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARRL Urges Regulatory Regime to Keep Non-Amateur Satellites off Amateur Spectrum ARRL wants the FCC to facilitate bona fide Amateur Satellite experimentation by educational institutions under Part 97 Amateur Service rules, while precluding the exploitation of amateur spectrum by commercial, small-satellite users authorized under Part 5 Experimental rules. In comments filed on July 9 in an FCC proceeding to streamline licensing procedures for small satellites, ARRL suggested that the FCC adopt a bright line test to define and distinguish satellites that should be permitted to operate under Amateur-Satellite rules, as opposed to non-amateur satellites authorized under Part 5 Experimental rules. Specifically, it is possible to clarify which types of satellite operations are properly considered amateur experiments conducted pursuant to a Part 97 Amateur Radio license, and [those] which should be considered experimental, non-amateur facilities, properly authorized by a Part 5 authorization. ARRL said it views as incorrect and overly strict? the standard the FCC has applied since 2013 to define what constitutes an Amateur Satellite, forcing academic projects that once would have been operated in the Amateur Satellite Service to apply for a Part 5 Experimental authorization instead. This approach was based, ARRL said, on the false rational that a satellite launched by an educational institution must be non-amateur bcause instructors were being compensated and would thus have a pecuniary interest in the satellite project. ARRL said well-established Commission jurisprudence contradicts this view. ARRL told the FCC that justification exists to expand the category of satellite experiments conducted under an Amateur Radio license, especially those in which a college, university, or secondary school teacher is a sponsor. But, ARRL continued, a compelling need exists to discourage Part 5 Experimental authorizations for satellites intended to operate in amateur allocations by non-amateur sponsors, absent compelling showings of need. There is no doubt but that Amateur Radio should be protected against exploitation by commercial entities, and there should be a compelling justification for a Part 5 Experimental license issued for a satellite experiment to be conducted in amateur spectrum, ARRL said. A defining criterion for this latter category should be that there is no other spectrum practically available in lieu of Amateur Radio allocations. ARRL noted that International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) policy regarding satellites operated in Amateur Radio spectrum is only to coordinate satellites where licensees and control operators are radio amateurs and having a mission and operation consistent with the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) Radio Regulations? definitions of the Amateur and Amateur-Satellite services. Resolution 659, adopted at World Radiocommunication Conference (WRC) 2015, included protective language against non-amateur satellites operating in Amateur-Satellite spectrum, and the exclusion of any amateur bands from spectrum that might be considered at a future WRC for allocation to the Space Operation Service. IARU announced in 2017 that it would no longer coordinate non-amateur satellite operations and adopted new satellite frequency coordination guidelines. Under that policy, educational and university satellites may be coordinated only when an identified amateur component exists, and the mission is to teach and train students in satellite communication and building and launching satellites. The individual responsible for the satellite?s communications must be an Amateur Radio licensee. IARU will also continue to coordinate space stations operating under an amateur license and having a clear amateur mission, as well as satellites where a licensing administration directs the use of an amateur band. ARRL asserted that incorporating Amateur Radio in experiential learning using small satellites e.g., CubeSats is good for Amateur Radio, for students, and for the advancement of technology, and it urged the FCC to adopt a regulatory paradigm that encourages this approach. AMSAT-NA also filed comments in the proceeding. The AMSAT remarks reflect several of the same concerns expressed by ARRL, including the suitability of authorizing certain satellites built by universities and non-profit organizations in the Amateur Satellite Service, and expressing opposition to satellites licensed as experimental under FCC Part 5 rules operating in the Amateur Satellite bands. Interested parties may file reply comments in the proceeding, IB Docket No. 18-86, by August 7, 2018. [ANS thanks ARRL News for the above information.] --------------------------------------------------------------------- UN/Brazil Symposium on Basic Space Technology September 2018 The theme for the United Nations/Brazil Symposium on Basic Space Technology is "Creating Novel Opportunities with Small Satellite Space Missions". The symposium will be held September 11-14, 2018 in Natal, Brazil. The objectives of the UN/Brazil Symposium will be to: 1. Review the status of capacity-building in basic space technology for small satellites including lessons learned from the past and on- going development activities with focus on regional and international collaboration opportunities, in particular for countries in Latin America and Caribbean; 2. Examine issues relevant to the implementation of small satellite programmes, such as organizational capacity-building, development, testing infrastructure and launch opportunities; 3. Review evolving capabilities and state-of-the-art applications of small satellite programmes and technological developments associated with them, with particular focus on applications for agriculture, environment and urban monitoring, and education that support sustainable growth, in line with the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development; 4. Elaborate on regulatory issues related to space technology development programmes, such as frequency allocation, space debris mitigation and other issues that may arise with the newly emerging trend of small satellite constellations; 5. Elaborate on legal issues and responsibilities related to space technology development programmes, such as those that arise from the sources of international space law; 6. Discuss the way forward for the Basic Space Technology Initiative (BSTI), and its capacity-building and international cooperation activities in support of UNISPACE+50. More information is available at: https://tinyurl.com/2018-Brazil-Symposium [ANS thanks UN Office for Outer Space Affairs for the above information.] --------------------------------------------------------------------- World JOTA-JOTI Registration Now Open Registration is open worldwide for Scouting?s Jamboree on the Air (JOTA) and Jamboree on the Internet. JOTA-JOTI take place October 19 ? 21 ? always the third weekend of October. JOTA Coordinator Jim Wilson, K5ND, encourages JOTA groups to register as soon as possible. ?The sign-up system this year is much simpler,? Wilson told ARRL. ?There is no need to first register an account at scout.org before signing in.? Wilson said JOTA-JOTI will generate ?an explosion of communication across the Amateur Radio airwaves and the internet.? He anticipates that more than 1 million Scouts and Guides will take part in more than 150 countries. A JOTA-JOTI Participant?s Guide is available. ?JOTA began in 1957 following the World Jamboree that year, when the ham radio operators gathered over coffee and thought about doing the on-the-air part of Jamboree every year,? Wilson recounted. This year will mark the 61st JOTA (and the 22nd year of JOTI). ?Many JOTA Amateur Radio stations are also starting to use JOTI channels, like ScoutLink, to more readily connect with Scouts around the world,? Wilson told ARRL. ?Other channels include Skype, YouTube, and social media.? Wilson said once groups have registered, other locations around the world will know to look for them. ?Likewise, you?ll be able to see at a glance all the rest of the locations from across town to the other side of the Earth,? he added. A participants' guide is available at: https://www.jotajoti.info/jota-joti-participants-guide/ (Editor's Note: Amateurs interested in supporting a local scouting organization should contact the local leadership directly and offer support. The amateurs and the scouting group can use the Participants Guide to plan their Jamboree event and register with the World Organization of the Scout Movement.) [ANS thanks ARRL News for the above information.] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Analysts Predict a Golden Age for Cubesats If they Can Get Launched If predictions from recent analyst reports are correct, CubeSat builders are about to enter a five-year period of intense growth as the commercial space industry transitions to small-satellite-centric business models in order to meet demand for new applications and increased access to space. But, the size of the growth spike will be dependent on the availability and cost of small satellite launch services. While demand clearly exists for CubeSats, the availability and cost of small satellite launch services remain a variable in the equation. Projected growth rates for small satellite launch services are not consistent with those projected for the spacecraft themselves. The complete article is available at: https://tinyurl.com/Spacecom-Cubesat-Golden-Age [ANS thanks satellitetoday.com for the above information.] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule (As of July 10, 2018) Essex Heights Primary School, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, telebridge via VK4KHZ (Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT). Tue 2018-07-17 08:24:52 UTC 85 deg 7th International Aerospace School. I.N. Sultanova Rep. Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD. The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS. The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Artemyev. Contact is a go for 2018-07-20 20:15 UTC. ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools: Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 [ANS thanks Charles, AJ9N for the above information.] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for Volunteers, ANS Seeks Rotating Editors The AMSAT News Service (ANS) is seeking volunteers to serve as rotating editors for its weekly newsletter. Editors work on a rotating schedule, each taking a different turn editing a specific week's newsletter as scheduled by the ANS Editor in Chief. Editors support each other by seeking and reporting to the Editor of the week, information and resources of interest to the AMSAT community. The number of newsletters assigned will be dependent upon the number of available editors at any given time. The average editor can expect to spend, on average, 4-5 hours for each newsletter, dependent on available material. 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(Zone 2) Pierre/VE3KTB will once again active from the Eureka Weather station and the Eureka Amateur Radio Club [probably the most northerly located amateur radio club in the world] from Eureka, Nunavut(NA-008), as VY0ERC between July 8-21st. The suggested bands are 40 and 20 meters, as well as FM satellites, using SSB, the digital modes and very slow CW. Activity will be limited to his spare time. QSL via M0OXO, OQRS or direct. VP9, BERMUDA. Steve, KU9C, will once again be active as KU9C/VP9 from Ed, VP9GE's, QTH between July 11-17th. During the IARU HF Championship he will operate as VP9HQ/RSB, the VP9 IARU Headquarters station. Outside of the contest look for activity on the SO-50 and AO-85 FM satellites. QSL VP9HQ and the KU9C/VP9 callsigns to his home callsign. [ANS thanks Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1371 for the above information.] + Logging Satellite Contacts on Logbook of the World Charlie Reiche, N3CRT has made a YouTube video showing how to use the TQSL program to create and upload logfiles for satellite contacts via ARRL's Log Book of the World. Watch the 7:33 viveo at: https://youtu.be/qSIMmBvVc-4 [ANS thanks Charlie, N3CRT for the above information.] + AMSAT President Talks Cubesats at SEA-PAC Joe Spier K6WAO, AMSAT President fascinated SEA-PAC attendees on the beach on June 1, 2018. SEA-PAC is the largest ham radio convention in the northwest US. Watch the 4:11 video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl_RpYcNlGU [ANS thanks Randy, K7AGE for the above information.] + Updated Fox Operating Guide/Recruiting Flyer AMSAT published a two-page, full-color flyer on June 6, 2018. The front side of the flyer can be used for recruiting hams into the world of amateur satellites and AMSAT membership. The reverse side offers simple instructions on how to listen and how to make contac ts on the Fox series of satellites. Download either the high or low resolution files at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/AMSATNA/files/ [ANS thanks to JoAnne, K9JKM for the above information.] + RadFxSat-2/Fox-1E declared Mission Ready! Details to follow! [ANS thanks Jerry, N0JY for the above information.] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Frank Karnauskas, N1UW n1uw at amsat dot org _______________________________________________ Via the ANS mailing list courtesy of AMSAT-NA http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans From fgeraci14 at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 21:48:14 2018 From: fgeraci14 at gmail.com (Francis Geraci) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 17:48:14 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Completed QFH Ant project - WB1FXX Message-ID: Hello Sat Heads Just wanted to "share" a project I just finished. It was a really fun VHF satellite antenna project. Great looking and NO "pointy" antenna elements to poke You in the Eye. Here's the kink to the photo: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CAfYxyosnRe3c3zVA Best to the Sat community. WB1FXX From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 15 23:48:45 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 23:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] You can't go wrong with AO-91 and AO-92 (U/V FM) References: <1095734291.4780404.1531698525881.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1095734291.4780404.1531698525881@mail.yahoo.com> I guess I feel bad for the few hams here and on the air who seem to find it difficult to get on these amazing birds.? Below is a link to an ultra-portable ultra light weight setup for working these birds with a HT (4 watts). The Duplexer is zip tied on the short center boom and the coax is just some RG-8X.? A set of short (24 inch) home-brew Yagis are set at fixed elevation of about 30 degrees, and don't need any phase angle rotation.? The camera mount center rod was replaced with a 1/2 inch PVC pipe, which can be raised to catch very low angle passes, and lowered in windy situations.? The HT, a headset, an old android smartphone and a small writing pad completes the setup.? AO-91 and AO-92 can be worked down to 3 degrees full quieting, beyond the hills, from my city lot house back yard. See pics Ultra_Portable_Setup_Working_FM_Satellites - Google Drive | | | | Ultra_Portable_Setup_Working_FM_Satellites - Google Drive | | | Actually, it would take a bit of work to NOT work these sats, happened once when the coax cables to the duplexer were reversed ! Good luck to the folks trying hard work them, wish I could help... 73! Umesh K6VUG ? ? From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 16 00:19:50 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 00:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] You can't go wrong with AO-91 and AO-92 (U/V FM) In-Reply-To: <1723339096.4798741.1531700206655@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1095734291.4780404.1531698525881.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1095734291.4780404.1531698525881@mail.yahoo.com> <1723339096.4798741.1531700206655@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1245576747.4791172.1531700390063@mail.yahoo.com> Sorry, looks like Yahoo email did something to the link, here it is again https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11CWQLH7B3qu6BBLm6plXpp3V4XMvssVc Thanks,Umesh On Sunday, July 15, 2018, 4:55:31 PM PDT, H. Stephen Nipper wrote: Your pictures didn't attach. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 5:48 PM, k6vug at sbcglobal.net wrote: I guess I feel bad for the few hams here and on the air who seem to find it difficult to get on these amazing birds.? Below is a link to an ultra-portable ultra light weight setup for working these birds with a HT (4 watts). The Duplexer is zip tied on the short center boom and the coax is just some RG-8X.? A set of short (24 inch) home-brew Yagis are set at fixed elevation of about 30 degrees, and don't need any phase angle rotation.? The camera mount center rod was replaced with a 1/2 inch PVC pipe, which can be raised to catch very low angle passes, and lowered in windy situations.? The HT, a headset, an old android smartphone and a small writing pad completes the setup.? AO-91 and AO-92 can be worked down to 3 degrees full quieting, beyond the hills, from my city lot house back yard. See pics Ultra_Portable_Setup_Working_ FM_Satellites - Google Drive | | |? | Ultra_Portable_Setup_Working_ FM_Satellites - Google Drive ?| ?| ?| Actually, it would take a bit of work to NOT work these sats, happened once when the coax cables to the duplexer were reversed ! Good luck to the folks trying hard work them, wish I could help... 73! Umesh K6VUG ? ? ______________________________ _________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ listinfo/amsat-bb -- Stephen Nipper Boise, Idaho N7DJX From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Mon Jul 16 00:30:30 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 08:30:30 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <5812e7f2-1787-2e99-858c-786bf69c4ec6@msa.hinet.net> Thanks Scott. I turned back the clock on my phone to 0547UTC and ran my tracker and XW2E was indeed right over my QTH at that time. Will try again today to see if I can get any telemetry out of the CW beacon. On DK3WN there is a report from a Japanese ham who decoded it on July 12th. Cheers, Hans BX2ABT On 07/16/2018 12:00 AM, Scott wrote: > Hello! > > As others have mentioned, this is XW-2E. Here is a tweet w/ screen shot > that I posted the other day showing ALL of the transmitters doing > more-or-less the same thing: > > https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1013583542096416768 > > 73! > > -Scott, K4KDR > > > ========================== > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Hans BX2ABT > wrote: > >> Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that >> time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of July >> 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over your area >> at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT >> >> >> On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >> >>> Hans, >>> >>> This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got same at >>> time this bird was supposed to be over my area. >>> >>> Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog >>> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> Jean Marc (3B8DU >>> >>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Could you please take a look at this image < >>>> http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/image/20180715_1747-baffled.png>? >>>> I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? >>>> >>>> 73 de Hans >>>> >>>> BX2ABT >>> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From aa8ch at aol.com Mon Jul 16 00:52:29 2018 From: aa8ch at aol.com (aa8ch at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 20:52:29 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] N8R final wrap up Message-ID: <164a09307c9-c90-d738@webjas-vad128.srv.aolmail.net> Hi: I have posted some photos and a short recap with statistics from the N8R rove on the N8R QRZ.com page if anyone's interested. Thanks to all for calling me, AMSAT is the best! 73 Chris AA8CH From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Mon Jul 16 09:42:20 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 17:42:20 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <5812e7f2-1787-2e99-858c-786bf69c4ec6@msa.hinet.net> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> <5812e7f2-1787-2e99-858c-786bf69c4ec6@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: Laugh all you want. GPredict doesn't have an entry for XW2E, so I tuned by hand..........to the wrong frequency. And the pass was an 85 degrees elevation one, so perfect for getting a good strong signal. Murphy's law. In the end I did see some telemetry on 145.890, same as yesterday, but I couldn't detect any CW beacon. 73 de Hans BX2ABT On 07/16/2018 08:30 AM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > Thanks Scott. I turned back the clock on my phone to 0547UTC and ran > my tracker and XW2E was indeed right over my QTH at that time. Will > try again today to see if I can get any telemetry out of the CW > beacon. On DK3WN there is a report from a Japanese ham who decoded it > on July 12th. > > Cheers, > > Hans > > BX2ABT > > > On 07/16/2018 12:00 AM, Scott wrote: >> Hello! >> >> As others have mentioned, this is XW-2E.? Here is a tweet w/ screen shot >> that I posted the other day showing ALL of the transmitters doing >> more-or-less the same thing: >> >> https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1013583542096416768 >> >> 73! >> >> -Scott,? K4KDR >> >> >> ========================== >> >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Hans BX2ABT >> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that >>> time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of >>> July >>> 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over >>> your area >>> at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT >>> >>> >>> On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >>> >>>> Hans, >>>> >>>> This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got >>>> same at >>>> time this bird was supposed to be over my area. >>>> >>>> Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog >>>> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> >>>> Jean Marc (3B8DU >>>> >>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Could you please take a look at this image < >>>>> http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/image/20180715_1747-baffled.png>? >>>>> >>>>> I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? >>>>> Anybody? >>>>> >>>>> 73 de Hans >>>>> >>>>> BX2ABT >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From godetj at wanadoo.fr Mon Jul 16 10:15:28 2018 From: godetj at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Godet) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:15:28 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> <5812e7f2-1787-2e99-858c-786bf69c4ec6@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <5d1fb8a6-7d29-0aad-4c7d-310b4d9168f7@wanadoo.fr> Hi Hans, all, Between parts of non modulated carrierI receive a small piece of CW telemetry of XW-2E on 145.910 +-3 Doppler shift during the last pass over western Europe (BJ1SF is the callsign of XW-2E) : BJ1SF DFH XW2 then BJ1SF DFH XW2 XW2 AAA As defunct XW-2E was deleted from the Celestrak data base used by GPredict, create a file named "40909.sat" in the ~/.config/Gpredict/satdata directory with : [Satellite] VERSION=1.1 NAME=XW-2E NICKNAME=XW-2E TLE1=1 40909U 15049L 18196.46936794 .00000813 00000-0 44380-4 0 9999 TLE2=2 40909 97.4556 201.1699 0012256 291.4063 68.5862 15.17084954155908 (tle from Space-Track) Have fun withe Wiwang-2E, 73 ! Jean-Pierre F5YG On 16/07/2018 09:42, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > Laugh all you want. GPredict doesn't have an entry for XW2E, so I tuned > by hand..........to the wrong frequency. And the pass was an 85 degrees > elevation one, so perfect for getting a good strong signal. Murphy's > law. In the end I did see some telemetry on 145.890, same as yesterday, > but I couldn't detect any CW beacon. > > 73 de Hans > > BX2ABT > > > On 07/16/2018 08:30 AM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: >> Thanks Scott. I turned back the clock on my phone to 0547UTC and ran >> my tracker and XW2E was indeed right over my QTH at that time. Will >> try again today to see if I can get any telemetry out of the CW >> beacon. On DK3WN there is a report from a Japanese ham who decoded it >> on July 12th. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hans >> >> BX2ABT >> >> >> On 07/16/2018 12:00 AM, Scott wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> As others have mentioned, this is XW-2E.? Here is a tweet w/ screen shot >>> that I posted the other day showing ALL of the transmitters doing >>> more-or-less the same thing: >>> >>> https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1013583542096416768 >>> >>> 73! >>> >>> -Scott,? K4KDR >>> >>> >>> ========================== >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Hans BX2ABT >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that >>>> time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of >>>> July >>>> 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over >>>> your area >>>> at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hans, >>>>> >>>>> This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got >>>>> same at >>>>> time this bird was supposed to be over my area. >>>>> >>>>> Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog >>>>> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/. >>>>> >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jean Marc (3B8DU >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please take a look at this image < >>>>>> http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/image/20180715_1747-baffled.png>? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? >>>>>> Anybody? >>>>>> >>>>>> 73 de Hans >>>>>> >>>>>> BX2ABT >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Mon Jul 16 10:47:25 2018 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:47:25 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <5d1fb8a6-7d29-0aad-4c7d-310b4d9168f7@wanadoo.fr> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> <5812e7f2-1787-2e99-858c-786bf69c4ec6@msa.hinet.net> <5d1fb8a6-7d29-0aad-4c7d-310b4d9168f7@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On 16-07-2018 12:15, Jean-Pierre Godet wrote: > Hi Hans, all, Hi Jean-Pierre > As defunct XW-2E was deleted from the Celestrak data base used by XW-2E is still in celestrak, look for NoradID 40909 XW-2E 1 40909U 15049L 18196.46936794 .00000813 00000-0 44380-4 0 9999 2 40909 97.4556 201.1699 0012256 291.4063 68.5862 15.17084954155908 > > Have fun withe Wiwang-2E, 73 ! > > Jean-Pierre F5YG > Regards, Jan -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/ Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/ irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Mon Jul 16 12:17:35 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:17:35 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Completed QFH Ant project - WB1FXX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1d59af04-f91f-7e60-92e2-118bcc3d5cea@msa.hinet.net> Looks great! Have you already tested it out? I wonder if the measurements were very critical and how you curved the alu strips so neatly. Have fun with it. Hans BX2ABT On 07/16/2018 05:48 AM, Francis Geraci wrote: > Hello Sat Heads > > Just wanted to "share" a project I just finished. It was a really fun VHF > satellite antenna project. Great looking and NO "pointy" antenna elements > to poke You in the Eye. > > Here's the kink to the photo: > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/CAfYxyosnRe3c3zVA > > Best to the Sat community. WB1FXX > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Mon Jul 16 12:21:15 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:21:15 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio file to KISS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95d18f55-0dbf-5176-f456-d6c7c348618d@msa.hinet.net> Bedankt Jan, This requires a bit more study than I expected. I'm a complete noob w.r.t. data transmittions, but I saw your site and some explanations on how things work and I'll first study that. Cheers en tot de volgende keer. Hans BX2ABT On 07/16/2018 12:00 AM, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio wrote: > > > On 15-07-2018 15:46, Hans BX2ABT wrote: >> Is there a (hopefully Linux) way to turn an audio recording into a >> KISS file? > > Hello Hans, > > Replay the audio file and redirect the output to a decoder, Direwolf > should work. > > An example how to redirect can be found at: > http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/unix-tlm-decoding/ > >> >> Hans >> >> BX2ABT > > Regards, Jan - PE0SAT > From matthew at mrstevens.net Mon Jul 16 15:51:47 2018 From: matthew at mrstevens.net (Matthew Stevens) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:51:47 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] new 20ah bioenno battery for sale. Message-ID: I have a brand new condition 20ah bioenno and charger for sale. It has been charged twice, was used for about 2 hours on the Tortugas this past weekend, and 45 minutes on field day. It's great for use while roving, or for portable HF etc. I bought it as a backup battery for the K4R expedition, and now that we are back home it is just excess to my needs with all the other batteries I own. Including charger, I?m asking $190. You pay shipping. I paid $220 for this battery and charger from HRO a month and a half ago. For a photo, visit the link below. https://twitter.com/matt_nj4y/status/1017814120559796224/photo/1 73, - Matthew nj4y From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 17:20:37 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:20:37 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> <5812e7f2-1787-2e99-858c-786bf69c4ec6@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: <4A09C481-6D57-4808-A516-20FD82D3A2C2@gmail.com> Hans, Will not laugh, as this is natural, we all try things and it is not straight forward particularly with the birds, softwares etc.... I congratulate you to have notice XW-2E anomaly and bring same to the BB for discussion. In spite some OM?s already pin point the issue it is important that all of us keep a watch (and eyes open) on frequencies and share our observations as it may lead to so more discoveries and open new frontiers. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jul 16, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > > Laugh all you want. GPredict doesn't have an entry for XW2E, so I tuned by hand..........to the wrong frequency. And the pass was an 85 degrees elevation one, so perfect for getting a good strong signal. Murphy's law. In the end I did see some telemetry on 145.890, same as yesterday, but I couldn't detect any CW beacon. > > 73 de Hans > > BX2ABT > > > On 07/16/2018 08:30 AM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: >> Thanks Scott. I turned back the clock on my phone to 0547UTC and ran my tracker and XW2E was indeed right over my QTH at that time. Will try again today to see if I can get any telemetry out of the CW beacon. On DK3WN there is a report from a Japanese ham who decoded it on July 12th. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hans >> >> BX2ABT >> >> >> On 07/16/2018 12:00 AM, Scott wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> As others have mentioned, this is XW-2E. Here is a tweet w/ screen shot >>> that I posted the other day showing ALL of the transmitters doing >>> more-or-less the same thing: >>> >>> https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1013583542096416768 >>> >>> 73! >>> >>> -Scott, K4KDR >>> >>> >>> ========================== >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Hans BX2ABT >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that >>>> time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of July >>>> 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over your area >>>> at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hans, >>>>> >>>>> This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got same at >>>>> time this bird was supposed to be over my area. >>>>> >>>>> Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog >>>>> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/. >>>>> >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jean Marc (3B8DU >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please take a look at this image < >>>>>> http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/image/20180715_1747-baffled.png>? >>>>>> I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? Anybody? >>>>>> >>>>>> 73 de Hans >>>>>> >>>>>> BX2ABT >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net Mon Jul 16 17:37:40 2018 From: amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 17:37:40 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] KG6LHW's CM79 trip last Friday afternoon Message-ID: Hi! Last Friday, Anthony KG6LHW made a scouting trip to grid CM79 in northern California. This is one of the rarest grids in the continental USA. It isn't an easy place to reach, as KB5WIA discovered when he operated from the CM79/CM89/CN70/CN80 4-grid intersection in 2011: http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2011/08/cm79-grid-expedition.html KG6LHW ended up working one western SO-50 pass late Friday afternoon, and he uploaded his CM79 log to LOTW in the past hour. He also posted a YouTube video showing where he went, and the SO-50 pass he worked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzo_gdgBNrE Anthony is planning a multi-day trip out there, and wants to get familiar with working SSB/CW satellites before that trip. It will be interesting to see how those plans work out... 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Mon Jul 16 17:48:27 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:48:27 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Essex Heights Primary School, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Message-ID: <4202A68FA4984C5897B4AE9BA945E000@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Essex Heights Primary School, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia on 17 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 08:24 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK4KHZ. The contact should be audible over portions of Australia. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Essex Heights Primary School is situated in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne within the municipal boundaries of the City of Monash (approx. 183,000 residents) approximately 20km from Melbourne CBD. Essex Heights is one of 27 primary schools and 9 secondary schools in the City of Monash. Essex Heights is a Prep to Year 6 School of 576 students. The school has a strong partnership with Deakin University and is part of a number of educational research projects. Essex Heights has a rich cultural mix and also caters for a number of students funded under the Program for Students with Disability (4%). About 60% of the parent population were born outside of Australia, with China (18%), Malaysia (6.3%) and India (6.1%) being the predominant countries of birth. Through the 'School Values' of friendliness, honesty, inclusiveness, persistence and respect, children develop positive attitudes and acquire skills that equip them for their future. All children are valued within a supportive and stimulating school environment where each child is encouraged to reach his / her potential. The whole community encourages high expectations and promotes innovative and contemporary curriculum, differentiated to cater for the needs of all children. The school engenders a culture of connectedness and creativity and whilst focussed on developing literacy in a variety of ways as well as positive relationships, students are actively involved in learning programs covering a wide range of domains. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. Why did you want to be an astronaut?2. How long and what training did you do to be selected as an astronaut?3. Does your body react differently in space?4. What different jobs do you do as work on the Space Station?5. What happens if you fall seriously ill on the Space Station?6. What emergency back up plans are there if something very serious happens to the Space Station?7. What was the most difficult part of astronaut training?8. Why is it important to conduct experiments in space?9. Sometimes animals like insects and spiders are taken into space. Have any been hatched in space and does zero gravity affect them?10. What do you do on a typical day?11. Why does food taste differently on the Space Station and do you eat your meals together?12. Does space junk cause a potential problem for the Space Station?13. How many spacewalks have you and the crew done and was it scary?14. What is your favourite food to eat on the Space Station and what food are you missing the most?15. What differences have you noticed in your body while you have been in space and how will you get used to gravity when you return to earth?16. Have any of the past scientific experiments on the Space Station had a real world impact on Earth?17. Why don't you run out of oxygen on the International Space Station?18. How long does it take to get used to zero gravity?19. What plans are there for the future expansion of the International Space Station?20. What types of experiments are you currently running and how does zero gravity affect them?21. Why can the International Space Station stay in orbit around the Earth, without falling?22. How do you communicate with astronauts on the Space Station that come from other countries?23. Is exercising harder in space and do you do any special exercise to help you stay fit?24. What is the most amazing sight you have seen when you looked through your window? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. 7th International Aerospace School. I.N. Sultanova Rep. Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Artemyev Contact is a go for 2018-07-20 20:15 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From pconver at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 18:38:32 2018 From: pconver at gmail.com (Pedro Converso) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:38:32 -0300 Subject: [amsat-bb] What is this phenomenon? In-Reply-To: <4A09C481-6D57-4808-A516-20FD82D3A2C2@gmail.com> References: <06a12945-28ab-c7be-2211-ad54c179e6b4@msa.hinet.net> <1616AE57-C186-4E76-9027-87F5FED3EE78@gmail.com> <9b0926cb-9b72-1274-6533-6aafac657205@msa.hinet.net> <5812e7f2-1787-2e99-858c-786bf69c4ec6@msa.hinet.net> <4A09C481-6D57-4808-A516-20FD82D3A2C2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hans, I copy very strong TLM for all XW/CAS Satellites. http://lu7abf.org.ar/pass.htm shows times, freqs and doppler. 73, lu7abf, Pedro On 7/16/18, Jean Marc Momple wrote: > Hans, > > Will not laugh, as this is natural, we all try things and it is not straight > forward particularly with the birds, softwares etc.... > > I congratulate you to have notice XW-2E anomaly and bring same to the BB for > discussion. In spite some OM?s already pin point the issue it is important > that all of us keep a watch (and eyes open) on frequencies and share our > observations as it may lead to so more discoveries and open new frontiers. > > 73 > > > Jean Marc (3B8DU) > >> On Jul 16, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Hans BX2ABT >> wrote: >> >> Laugh all you want. GPredict doesn't have an entry for XW2E, so I tuned by >> hand..........to the wrong frequency. And the pass was an 85 degrees >> elevation one, so perfect for getting a good strong signal. Murphy's law. >> In the end I did see some telemetry on 145.890, same as yesterday, but I >> couldn't detect any CW beacon. >> >> 73 de Hans >> >> BX2ABT >> >> >> On 07/16/2018 08:30 AM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: >>> Thanks Scott. I turned back the clock on my phone to 0547UTC and ran my >>> tracker and XW2E was indeed right over my QTH at that time. Will try >>> again today to see if I can get any telemetry out of the CW beacon. On >>> DK3WN there is a report from a Japanese ham who decoded it on July 12th. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hans >>> >>> BX2ABT >>> >>> >>> On 07/16/2018 12:00 AM, Scott wrote: >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> As others have mentioned, this is XW-2E. Here is a tweet w/ screen shot >>>> that I posted the other day showing ALL of the transmitters doing >>>> more-or-less the same thing: >>>> >>>> https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1013583542096416768 >>>> >>>> 73! >>>> >>>> -Scott, K4KDR >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================== >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Hans BX2ABT >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the hint. The frequencies are indeed of XW2E and around that >>>>> time almost all the XW2 sats came flying over. The screenshot was of >>>>> July >>>>> 15, 0547UTC, so where can you find if a satellite was indeed over your >>>>> area >>>>> at that time in the past? --Hans BX2ABT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 07/15/2018 10:18 PM, Jean Marc Momple wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hans, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is XW2E I believe, it seems that it came back to life, I got same >>>>>> at >>>>>> time this bird was supposed to be over my area. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also Mike (DK3WN) succeeded to decode its CW telemetry, see his blog >>>>>> http://www.dk3wn.info/p/. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jean Marc (3B8DU >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Hans BX2ABT >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could you please take a look at this image < >>>>>>> http://bx2abt.com/main/data/_uploaded/image/20180715_1747-baffled.png>? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm new to the VHF/UHF world and I have no idea what this is? >>>>>>> Anybody? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 de Hans >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BX2ABT >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From zmetzing at pobox.com Mon Jul 16 18:41:30 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:41:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] PI5FTS at Fontys University Eindhoven needs a new home! Message-ID: <0aa168ae-16e7-829f-8ace-b2068a594e66@pobox.com> Hello all, I was sad to hear this: > Unfortunately this amateur radio station PI5FTS will have to be > closed down and completely dismantled sometime in August 2018. If we > can find a new location, we shall try to reactivate the station at > the new location, using a different call sign. http://vhf.pi5fts.nl/ Anyone have a location for this fine setup to call home? --- Zach N0ZGO From fgeraci14 at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 20:32:32 2018 From: fgeraci14 at gmail.com (Francis Geraci) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 16:32:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Additional comments on VHF QHA antenna project Message-ID: Hello again, Sat Heads - WB1FXX I had quite a few comments/questions on this antenna. First : I have to give a HUGE "Shout-out" to David P. Finell, N7LRY for his extremely concise article in the May, 2018 issue of QST. David is the 2nd place winner in the 2017 QST Antenna Design Competition. He is "amazingly" quick to answer my Emails with questions I had during the Project. Thank You again, David. I don't have a lot of performance reports yet. My Sat Shack is down for some house renovations. The station is under plastic sheets. Yes, It's a pretty exacting build. David does most of the dimensions in MM / CM . I had to "re-calibrate" my brain for the metric system. I'll never go back to inches / feet. I had a great time building the antenna. It WAS a challenge to my metalworking skills. Installing the "phasing harness" was the toughest part. Very small space to work in. Patience Preservers. Take your time, walk away when You get frustrated and "admire" your progress. As an "aside", my YL, K3FXX said it's the coolest antenna I've built, which is many. Calls it "A work of Art". I agree. I hope all can find the QST article and consider building one. Maybe David will "weigh-in" and provide a copy of the article to the Amsat group. Best to Group - WB1FXX From johnv at frontier.com Mon Jul 16 20:51:04 2018 From: johnv at frontier.com (johnv at frontier.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Activation of CN87 and 97 References: <2090260283.5419827.1531774264471.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2090260283.5419827.1531774264471@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you for hearing me and responding.?? It seems strange to me that the descending side of the overpass is the one that always works but give you less time to work others.? I believe I worked 4 stations and will download to LOTW this evening.?? If we don't connect with LOTW, please email me off the BB.?????? I am trying to get permission to work from the four corners (CN 87,88,97 and 98) but the lady of the house which the grid 4 corners are on, so far does not approve.??? The four are so close, it makes all the others at least a couple to three hours away and a ferry ride to get to, so I am doing some planing for different grids. Thank you and 73, JohnN7AMEEverett, WA From sehaque at tekterrain.com Mon Jul 16 12:29:28 2018 From: sehaque at tekterrain.com (Samudra Haque [TTLLC]) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:29:28 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies Message-ID: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> Hi, I am experimenting with RF carriers above 2 GHz in my lab. According to FCC and ITU tables there are several AMATEUR-SATELLITE bands allocated above 2 GHz, to very very high frequencies. What is the status of those frequencies in terms of past, present or planned utilization on AMSAT / other satellites ? If those bands haven't been used, should they be not used or plans to use them to protect them from being de-assigned to other services? Is there room for experimental RF super high frequency and extremely high frequency payloads on any mission to make some use of these great resource? 73 de Samudra N3RDX The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way using any information contained within this communication. If you have received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. From eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org Mon Jul 16 21:40:48 2018 From: eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org (Eric Fort) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:40:48 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies In-Reply-To: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> References: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: As one goes up in frequency the Doppler goes up. That said, these would be great on a geostationary bird or something that moved much slower than the short Leo passes for most of our satellites. There are some satellites build and pending launch for amsat phase IV in geosynchronous orbit. Those launches are not cheap though and rides are much more difficult to come by. At least a few of the sats awaiting launches will use the microwave bands you speak of for their uplink and downlink. The advantage of using that spectrum is multiple MHZ of passband (think the entirety of all amateur spectrum 6m and below easily on one transponder 24x7x~365.25 to anyone in the footprint. It would be nice if amsat would provide better support for these projects and the teams that work on them. Eric Sent using SMTP. > On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:29 AM, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] wrote: > > Hi, I am experimenting with RF carriers above 2 GHz in my lab. According to FCC and ITU tables there are several AMATEUR-SATELLITE bands allocated above 2 GHz, to very very high frequencies. > > What is the status of those frequencies in terms of past, present or planned utilization on AMSAT / other satellites ? > > If those bands haven't been used, should they be not used or plans to use them to protect them from being de-assigned to other services? Is there room for experimental RF super high frequency and extremely high frequency payloads on any mission to make some use of these great resource? > > 73 de Samudra N3RDX > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way using any information contained within this communication. If you have received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From andrewbnortham at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 22:02:51 2018 From: andrewbnortham at gmail.com (Andrew Northam) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 18:02:51 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] New Software Tool for Verifying If Roving Locations Are Within Your VUCC Circle In-Reply-To: <2014076896.4514413.1531615519674@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2014076896.4514413.1531615519674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2014076896.4514413.1531615519674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That Great Ron! I also used the Haversine method to track my WMPLOTA rove as well, and while it would take a 100.79km circle, no station locations are more than 188.6km apart, so I am able to use all locations within the same VUCC 'circle'! Here is a copy of Google Sheet, it shows a grid of the distances between all locations, and thee goal would me to keep them below 200km. There are 2 sections, one foe my home circle, and another for my rove. It gave teh same output as your script. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jUwB7sgjcHG0WEi7L9XxPYssxepS6FWLDIWqUHxPuKE/edit?usp=sharing --Andrew/KE8FZT On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Ron Bondy via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I have written a software tool in Python for determining if a set of local > rover locations (specified in decimal degrees latitude and longitude) are > all within 200km of each other. I used this for myself to determine which > of my local roving locations were within my 200km VUCC circle. > The script uses the Haversine method for determining the distance between > two locations on the earths surface, assuming the earth has a constant > radius. References are given in the readme.txt file provided below in the > DropBox folder. > It's a good planning tool too; if I'm going to go roving to a new local > spot then I'd prefer to rove to a location within my VUCC circle so my > contacts count toward my VUCC award totals. > This is a Python script that is run from the command line, so I'm sorry > but there is no user interface. If you're not sure what the command line > is and you've never heard of the Python programming language this software > tool is probably not for you. > You can download the files here: > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xkvbaj41060h4vy/AAC0n_D3uDAjEgWwcwxxxjnba?dl=0 > > The DropBox folder contains the Python script, along with > ad0dx_vucc_circle.txt, the file with my roving locations to give you an > example of how to use the script. > A readme.txt file is provided to give some more background and also a > results file with the results from using the script on my roving locations > file. You could examine the results file to determine if you think this > Python script might be useful to you. > Another great application is to put all your local WalMart's in the file > to confirm if those WMPLOTA locations count toward your VUCC totals. > Currently only latitude and longitude in decimal degrees are supported for > locations. > I haven't actually found the center of my own VUCC cirle at this point, > but the tool has let me confirm and investigate all the locations I use for > roving. It turns out for me that the DM68 69 78 79 four corner grid is in > my circle as well as the location I operate from on the DM 88 89 grid > line. My qth is in DM78 and is close to 39N latitude so DM79 is just a few > miles north of me. The tool has shown me that I can also include DM77 in > my VUCC circle, so that gives me a lot of options for roaming and counting > grids towards my VUCC award. > If you have any questions or comments please contact me off list at ad0dx > at yahoo dot com. > Thanks and 73's, > Ron, ad0dx > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Regards, Andrew Northam andrewbnortham at gmail.com (269) 762-0532 From zleffke at vt.edu Mon Jul 16 22:21:40 2018 From: zleffke at vt.edu (Zach Leffke) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 18:21:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies In-Reply-To: References: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: <655c781e-3695-d682-281f-43ef9c2afef9@vt.edu> ISS has a downlink transmitter at S-Band (~2.4 GHz) (ref: https://amsat-uk.org/satellites/hamtv-on-the-iss/) Phase4A has an uplink at S-Band (~2.4 GHz) and a downlink at X-Band (~10.5 GHz) (ref: https://amsat-uk.org/2016/06/24/phase-4a-geostationary-transponders/) AMSAT-NA is pursuing the 'Five and Dime Strategy' for future missions with C-Band (~5.66 GHz) uplinks and downlinks at X-Band (~10.5 GHz) (missions include Phase4B, Golf-T, and beyond). (ref, good place to start: https://www.amsat.org/update-on-amsat-phase-4-ground-terminal-development/) I think historically there have been some birds that operate in the higher bands.? AO-40 comes to mind with downlinks in multiple microwave bands topping out at 24 GHz (didn't miss a period there...that was twenty four gigahertz, not two point four gigahertz, though AO-40 had that too).?? (ref: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ao40freq.htm)? There may be some others from the Phase 3 era with microwave uplink/downlinks, but I'm not as sure of the history there.. Many of the QB-50 downlinks included experimental S-Band downlinks (experimental in the sense of not required for the QB-50 mission, so still licensed under the Amateur Satellite Service).? Many University 'beepsats' use S-Band downlinks in the Amateur Satellite allocations, though many of those operate(d) under an Experimental License. So generally speaking, I thinks it is safe to say that YES! the Microwave satellite bands are very much alive and while there might not be a whole lot of operational stuff up there at the moment, there are many nearer term and longer term plans to continue to use those bands.? The more the merrier! -Zach, KJ4QLP Research Associate Aerospace Systems Lab Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Work Phone: 540-231-4174 Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 On 7/16/2018 5:40 PM, Eric Fort wrote: > As one goes up in frequency the Doppler goes up. That said, these would be great on a geostationary bird or something that moved much slower than the short Leo passes for most of our satellites. There are some satellites build and pending launch for amsat phase IV in geosynchronous orbit. Those launches are not cheap though and rides are much more difficult to come by. At least a few of the sats awaiting launches will use the microwave bands you speak of for their uplink and downlink. The advantage of using that spectrum is multiple MHZ of passband (think the entirety of all amateur spectrum 6m and below easily on one transponder 24x7x~365.25 to anyone in the footprint. It would be nice if amsat would provide better support for these projects and the teams that work on them. > > Eric > > > > Sent using SMTP. > >> On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:29 AM, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] wrote: >> >> Hi, I am experimenting with RF carriers above 2 GHz in my lab. According to FCC and ITU tables there are several AMATEUR-SATELLITE bands allocated above 2 GHz, to very very high frequencies. >> >> What is the status of those frequencies in terms of past, present or planned utilization on AMSAT / other satellites ? >> >> If those bands haven't been used, should they be not used or plans to use them to protect them from being de-assigned to other services? Is there room for experimental RF super high frequency and extremely high frequency payloads on any mission to make some use of these great resource? >> >> 73 de Samudra N3RDX >> The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way using any information contained within this communication. If you have received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From stanzepa at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 16 22:21:22 2018 From: stanzepa at sbcglobal.net (Stan Horzepa) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 18:21:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] BOD ballot Message-ID: <62151125-5d24-a336-99a1-7a7544490d3c@sbcglobal.net> I received my AMSAT BOD ballot today. The left side of the ballot reads, "Select no more than three of the five listed candidates..." The right side of the ballot reads, "SELECT NO MORE THAN FOUR." The accompanying letter reads, "This year AMSAT-NA will be electing three voting members of the Board of Directors." So which is it? 3 or 4? 73, Stan, WA1LOU From k6fw1 at verizon.net Mon Jul 16 22:42:38 2018 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:42:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] BOD ballot In-Reply-To: <62151125-5d24-a336-99a1-7a7544490d3c@sbcglobal.net> References: <62151125-5d24-a336-99a1-7a7544490d3c@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I am not an officer but in the past it has always been three. Sounds like the ballot will need to be corrected and mailed out again. Frank K6FW Sent from my IPad > On Jul 16, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Stan Horzepa wrote: > > I received my AMSAT BOD ballot today. > > The left side of the ballot reads, "Select no more than three of the five listed candidates..." > > The right side of the ballot reads, "SELECT NO MORE THAN FOUR." > > The accompanying letter reads, "This year AMSAT-NA will be electing three voting members of the Board of Directors." > > So which is it? 3 or 4? > > 73, > > Stan, WA1LOU > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tasmac at w5pfg.us Mon Jul 16 22:50:53 2018 From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 17:50:53 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Board of Directors Mailed Ballots Message-ID: <2f619009-541a-e77e-e349-31b01c749ae4@w5pfg.us> There was an error on the printed ballots mailed out for the 2018 AMSAT Board of Directors election. There are three open Board of Directors positions in this 2018 election cycle. The verbiage on the left side of the ballot indicating the selection of three candidates is correct. Please disregard the incorrect verbiage on the right side of the ballot indicating to select four candidates. An announcement via AMSAT News Service (ANS) will be forthcoming. Thank you, Clayton W5PFG AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary From n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net Mon Jul 16 22:52:02 2018 From: n1jez at burlingtontelecom.net (Mike Seguin) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 18:52:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies In-Reply-To: <655c781e-3695-d682-281f-43ef9c2afef9@vt.edu> References: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> <655c781e-3695-d682-281f-43ef9c2afef9@vt.edu> Message-ID: <32eef953-d862-088a-b209-f817a13f4959@burlingtontelecom.net> Back in 2002, AO-40 was running K Band down (24,048 MHz) G3WDG and I both had K band receivers. Charlie was running a ~10' dish? and I had just a 0.5m dish. Charlie used circular polarization, so his receive signal didn't suffer from spin modulation. I was using a linear feed, so the signal would fade out for 2-3 secs or so as the polarization shifted from horizontal that I was running. Here's my reception of Charlie's signal - our first successful L/k contact: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J_U7GIdrCr7A12XTqYmgs9L4HATyaMOJ/view?usp=sharing Here's Charlie's audio of me: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13ffNjzyZcWNwino06wTFQn-5NVBBbmaF/view?usp=sharing Mike, N1JEZ On 7/16/2018 6:21 PM, Zach Leffke wrote: > > I think historically there have been some birds that operate in the > higher bands.? AO-40 comes to mind with downlinks in multiple microwave > bands topping out at 24 GHz (didn't miss a period there...that was > twenty four gigahertz, not two point four gigahertz, though AO-40 had > that too).?? (ref: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ao40freq.htm) > There may be some others from the Phase 3 era with microwave > uplink/downlinks, but I'm not as sure of the history there.. > > -Zach, KJ4QLP > > Research Associate > Aerospace Systems Lab > Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University > Work Phone: 540-231-4174 > Cell Phone: 540-808-6305 > > On 7/16/2018 5:40 PM, Eric Fort wrote: >> As one goes up in frequency the Doppler goes up. That said, these >> would be great on a geostationary bird or something that moved much >> slower than the short Leo passes for most of our satellites. There are >> some satellites build and pending launch for amsat phase IV in >> geosynchronous orbit. Those launches are not cheap though and rides >> are much more difficult to come by. At least a few of the sats >> awaiting launches will use the microwave bands you speak of for their >> uplink and downlink. The advantage of using that spectrum is multiple >> MHZ of passband (think the entirety of all amateur spectrum 6m and >> below easily on one transponder 24x7x~365.25 to anyone in the >> footprint. It would be nice if amsat would provide better support for >> these projects and the teams that work on them. >> >> Eric >> >> >> >> Sent using SMTP. >> >>> On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:29 AM, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, I am experimenting with RF carriers above 2 GHz in my lab. >>> According to FCC and ITU tables there are several AMATEUR-SATELLITE >>> bands allocated above 2 GHz, to very very high frequencies. >>> >>> What is the status of those frequencies in terms of past, present or >>> planned utilization on AMSAT / other satellites ? >>> >>> If those bands haven't been used, should they be not used or plans to >>> use them to protect them from being de-assigned to other services? Is >>> there room for experimental RF super high frequency and extremely >>> high frequency payloads on any mission to make some use of these >>> great resource? >>> >>> 73 de Samudra N3RDX -- 73, Mike, N1JEZ "A closed mouth gathers no feet" From zmetzing at pobox.com Mon Jul 16 23:18:31 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 18:18:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies In-Reply-To: <32eef953-d862-088a-b209-f817a13f4959@burlingtontelecom.net> References: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> <655c781e-3695-d682-281f-43ef9c2afef9@vt.edu> <32eef953-d862-088a-b209-f817a13f4959@burlingtontelecom.net> Message-ID: <21bda460-9d00-586e-3e89-c673f20fc202@pobox.com> On 07/16/18 17:52, Mike Seguin wrote: > > Here's my reception of Charlie's signal - our first successful L/k contact: > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J_U7GIdrCr7A12XTqYmgs9L4HATyaMOJ/view?usp=sharing > > > Here's Charlie's audio of me: > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/13ffNjzyZcWNwino06wTFQn-5NVBBbmaF/view?usp=sharing Mike, Thank you for posting those great audio recordings! It's snippets of successful contacts like keep me interested in getting into microwave (satellite or terrestrial). --- Zach N0ZGO From johnbrier at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 23:27:05 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 17:27:05 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies In-Reply-To: <21bda460-9d00-586e-3e89-c673f20fc202@pobox.com> References: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> <655c781e-3695-d682-281f-43ef9c2afef9@vt.edu> <32eef953-d862-088a-b209-f817a13f4959@burlingtontelecom.net> <21bda460-9d00-586e-3e89-c673f20fc202@pobox.com> Message-ID: The Chinese lunar satellite DSLWP-B seems to have x-band transmissions for images. https://twitter.com/bg2bhc/status/1007206364727291904?s=19 "*13 June 2018* IW1DTU reported strong X-band signals on 8478.000 MHz from DSLWP-B" http://dk3wn.info/blog/satelliten/dslwp/ 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 17:19 Zach Metzinger wrote: > On 07/16/18 17:52, Mike Seguin wrote: > > > > Here's my reception of Charlie's signal - our first successful L/k > contact: > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J_U7GIdrCr7A12XTqYmgs9L4HATyaMOJ/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > Here's Charlie's audio of me: > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/13ffNjzyZcWNwino06wTFQn-5NVBBbmaF/view?usp=sharing > > Mike, > > Thank you for posting those great audio recordings! It's snippets of > successful contacts like keep me interested in getting into microwave > (satellite or terrestrial). > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From n0jy at amsat.org Tue Jul 17 03:52:32 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 22:52:32 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies In-Reply-To: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> References: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: <52f912a2-73cc-3eed-a5e4-3a0bdbc21e21@amsat.org> On 7/16/2018 07:29, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] wrote: > What is the status of those frequencies in terms of past, present or planned utilization on AMSAT / other satellites ? GOLF-TEE will have a 10 GHz downlink, GOLF-1 is planned to have a 5 GHz uplink and 10 GHz downlink. https://www.amsat.org/greater-orbit-larger-footprint-an-introduction-to-the-amsat-golf-program/ Jerry Buxton, N?JY From aj9n at aol.com Tue Jul 17 17:14:41 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:14:41 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-17 18:00 UTC Message-ID: <164a93ca604-c90-16e6a@webjas-vab233.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-17 18:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Essex Heights Primary School, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, telebridge via VK4KHZ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact was successful: Tue 2018-07-17 08:24:52 UTC 85 deg (***) ? 7th International Aerospace School. I.N. Sultanova Rep. Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Artemyev Contact is a go for 2018-07-20 20:15 UTC ? Shinoda Elementary School, Izumi City, Japan, direct via 8N3SD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-07-23 09:47:14 UTC 43 deg (***) ? ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA, (CASIS#2), participating school Quest Institute for Quality Education, San Jose, CA, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contract is a go for: Thu 2018-07-26 20:22:10 UTC 48 deg (***) ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-17 18:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1238. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1186. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-07-17 18:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From g0mrf at aol.com Tue Jul 17 21:53:04 2018 From: g0mrf at aol.com (David G0MRF) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 17:53:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies Message-ID: <164aa3b8199-c99-18b13@webjas-vab041.srv.aolmail.net> Hi Samudra. The Geostationary satellite Eshail-2 is due to be launched by Space-X shortly. It will have a 10GHz downlink and 2.4GHz uplink amateur radio transponder. It's position will be apx 26 East, so not in range for the USA. Satellite is apparently completed. Launch date is unknown, but SpaceflightNow are the latest to add it to their listing for August.......Then we add the usual delays and then sprinkle on a few more delays for good measure. 73 David G0MRF Hi, I am experimenting with RF carriers above 2 GHz in my lab. According to FCC and ITU tables there are several AMATEUR-SATELLITE bands allocated above 2 GHz, to very very high frequencies. What is the status of those frequencies in terms of past, present or planned utilization on AMSAT / other satellites ? If those bands haven't been used, should they be not used or plans to use them to protect them from being de-assigned to other services? Is there room for experimental RF super high frequency and extremely high frequency payloads on any mission to make some use of these great resource? 73 de Samudra N3RDX From tasmac at w5pfg.us Tue Jul 17 22:33:17 2018 From: tasmac at w5pfg.us (Clayton Coleman W5PFG) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 17:33:17 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots Message-ID: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: Tom Clark, K3IO Mark Hammond, N8MH Scott Harvey, KA7FVV Bruce Paige, KK5DO Peter Portanova, W2JV The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. 73, Clayton W5PFG AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 22:40:33 2018 From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:40:33 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> Message-ID: How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last year. 73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: > Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA > members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have > been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA > office will not be counted. > > New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > > Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > Tom Clark, K3IO > Mark Hammond, N8MH > Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > Bruce Paige, KK5DO > Peter Portanova, W2JV > > The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the > highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate > members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. > > 73, > Clayton > W5PFG > AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k6fw1 at verizon.net Tue Jul 17 22:53:38 2018 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:53:38 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> Message-ID: <5fd9955c-9918-7fbd-f518-44c0ba2fef16@verizon.net> I hope the error was the printing company's and that they are paying for the printing and mailing the second time.? That would be fair. 73, Frank K6FW On 7/17/18 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: > How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is > having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots > to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the > organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps > such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last > year. > > 73, > Gabe > AL6D/VE6NJH > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: > >> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA >> office will not be counted. >> >> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >> >> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >> Tom Clark, K3IO >> Mark Hammond, N8MH >> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >> Peter Portanova, W2JV >> >> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >> >> 73, >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org Tue Jul 17 23:44:44 2018 From: eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org (Eric Fort) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 16:44:44 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> Message-ID: <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. Eric Af6ep Sent using SMTP. > On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: > > How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is > having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots > to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the > organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps > such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last > year. > > 73, > Gabe > AL6D/VE6NJH > >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: >> >> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA >> office will not be counted. >> >> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >> >> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >> Tom Clark, K3IO >> Mark Hammond, N8MH >> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >> Peter Portanova, W2JV >> >> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >> >> 73, >> Clayton >> W5PFG >> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From smedbury at windstream.net Tue Jul 17 23:42:34 2018 From: smedbury at windstream.net (Scott Medbury) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:42:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots Message-ID: <36.E5.09716.FEE7E4B5@smtp02.aqua.bos.sync.lan> These errors seem to be increasing in frequency. Scott KD5FBA Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid On Jul 17, 2018 5:53 PM, Frank wrote: > > I hope the error was the printing company's and that they are paying for > the printing and mailing the second time.? That would be fair. > > 73, > Frank > K6FW > On 7/17/18 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: > > How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is > > having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots > > to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the > > organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps > > such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last > > year. > > > > 73, > > Gabe > > AL6D/VE6NJH > > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: > > > >> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA > >> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have > >> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA > >> office will not be counted. > >> > >> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > >> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > >> > >> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > >> Tom Clark, K3IO > >> Mark Hammond, N8MH > >> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > >> Bruce Paige, KK5DO > >> Peter Portanova, W2JV > >> > >> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the > >> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate > >> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. > >> > >> 73, > >> Clayton > >> W5PFG > >> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > >> expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > >> AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Wed Jul 18 00:41:54 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:41:54 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio file to .kss file - part 2 Message-ID: <3c3ebbdb-4e63-1e46-6d1d-4d6bb61df9a6@msa.hinet.net> I got one step further, but haven't succeeded yet. I have some recorded telemetry from XW2D and the decoded program from DK3WN up and running on Linux using Wine. The telemetry program needs a .kss file to give some useful data. This is how far I got: 1) run a PulseAudio null sink with this command: pactl load-module-null-sink sink-name=virtual-cable 2) play the audio with Audacity 3) run Dire Wolf 4) use pavucontrol to set the output (Playback tab) for Audicity and the input (Recording tab) for Dire Wolf to the null sink 5) Dire Wolf will now happily take the audio from Audacity, which you can see by checking the VU meter in pavucontrol That's it. Dire Wolf has the -l command line option to set a directory for log files, but no option to set the file name or any other hint on how to save data as a file. I know it is mainly used as a pipe to decoding programs, but what is the option to save to file? It is not always feasible to decode from a live signal, so what I try to achieve is to decode from recorded material. Any hints appreciated. 73 de Hans BX2ABT From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 01:02:11 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:02:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-198 SPECIAL BULLETIN: 2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots Message-ID: AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-198 SPECIAL BULLETIN: 2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * 2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-198.01 ANS-198 SPECIAL AMSAT News Service Bulletin AMSAT News Service Bulletin 198.01 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. July 17, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-198.01 2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots To Be Mailed Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT- NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. New ballots labeled "CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018" and printed on yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: Tom Clark, K3IO Mark Hammond, N8MH Scott Harvey, KA7FVV Bruce Paige, KK5DO Peter Portanova, W2JV The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. [ANS thanks Clayton W5PFG AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, EMike McCardel, AA8EM aa8em at amsat dot org From Saguaroastro at cox.net Wed Jul 18 01:13:17 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:13:17 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Completed QFH Ant project - WB1FXX Message-ID: Nice, is that based on the plans in a recent issue of QST? Whatvfrequency is it cut for? Most folks build them for 137kHz to receive the NOAA ad sats. Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On July 15, 2018, at 14:48, Francis Geraci wrote: Hello Sat Heads Just wanted to "share" a project I just finished. It was a really fun VHF satellite antenna project. Great looking and NO "pointy" antenna elements to poke You in the Eye. Here's the kink to the photo: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CAfYxyosnRe3c3zVA Best to the Sat community. WB1FXX _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From Saguaroastro at cox.net Wed Jul 18 01:18:57 2018 From: Saguaroastro at cox.net (Richard Tejera) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:18:57 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Additional comments on VHF QHA antenna project Message-ID: <8vrga94ccv06dyvkwxevxtj3.1531876582769@email.android.com> You should be able to access the article on line from the ARRL website. A good resource for those wanting to build one at a different frequency is here: http://jcoppens.com/ant/qfh/calc.en.php Rick Tejera K7TEJ Saguaro Astronomy Club www.SaguaroAstro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org On July 16, 2018, at 13:32, Francis Geraci wrote: Hello again, Sat Heads - WB1FXX I had quite a few comments/questions on this antenna. First : I have to give a HUGE "Shout-out" to David P. Finell, N7LRY for his extremely concise article in the May, 2018 issue of QST. David is the 2nd place winner in the 2017 QST Antenna Design Competition. He is "amazingly" quick to answer my Emails with questions I had during the Project. Thank You again, David. I don't have a lot of performance reports yet. My Sat Shack is down for some house renovations. The station is under plastic sheets. Yes, It's a pretty exacting build. David does most of the dimensions in MM / CM . I had to "re-calibrate" my brain for the metric system. I'll never go back to inches / feet. I had a great time building the antenna. It WAS a challenge to my metalworking skills. Installing the "phasing harness" was the toughest part. Very small space to work in. Patience Preservers. Take your time, walk away when You get frustrated and "admire" your progress. As an "aside", my YL, K3FXX said it's the coolest antenna I've built, which is many. Calls it "A work of Art". I agree. I hope all can find the QST article and consider building one. Maybe David will "weigh-in" and provide a copy of the article to the Amsat group. Best to Group - WB1FXX _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 01:42:08 2018 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:42:08 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> Message-ID: <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. 73, Mike Diehl W8LID > On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort wrote: > > Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. > > Eric > Af6ep > > Sent using SMTP. > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: >> >> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is >> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots >> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the >> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps >> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last >> year. >> >> 73, >> Gabe >> AL6D/VE6NJH >> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: >>> >>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA >>> office will not be counted. >>> >>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>> >>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>> >>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>> >>> 73, >>> Clayton >>> W5PFG >>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wageners at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 01:48:15 2018 From: wageners at gmail.com (Stefan Wagener) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:48:15 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you Mike! There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great success. The benefits far outweigh any risks. 73, Stefan VE4NSA On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl wrote: > Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure > as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print > with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a > voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you > can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for > QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. > > Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the > elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. > > 73, > Mike Diehl > W8LID > > > On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < > eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: > > > > Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the > vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to > printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. > > > > Eric > > Af6ep > > > > Sent using SMTP. > > > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman > wrote: > >> > >> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented > organization is > >> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper > ballots > >> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save > the > >> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent > mishaps > >> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like > last > >> year. > >> > >> 73, > >> Gabe > >> AL6D/VE6NJH > >> > >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG > wrote: > >>> > >>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA > >>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have > >>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the > AMSAT-NA > >>> office will not be counted. > >>> > >>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > >>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > >>> > >>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > >>> Tom Clark, K3IO > >>> Mark Hammond, N8MH > >>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > >>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO > >>> Peter Portanova, W2JV > >>> > >>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the > >>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate > >>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Clayton > >>> W5PFG > >>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > >>> expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >>> AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 01:52:54 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:52:54 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting? EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > > Thank you Mike! > > There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great > success. The benefits far outweigh any risks. > > 73, Stefan VE4NSA > >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl wrote: >> >> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure >> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you >> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >> >> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >> >> 73, >> Mike Diehl >> W8LID >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < >> eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: >>> >>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>> >>> Eric >>> Af6ep >>> >>> Sent using SMTP. >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >> wrote: >>>> >>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >> organization is >>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper >> ballots >>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save >> the >>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent >> mishaps >>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like >> last >>>> year. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Gabe >>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the >> AMSAT-NA >>>>> office will not be counted. >>>>> >>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>> >>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>> >>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Clayton >>>>> W5PFG >>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions >>>>> expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of >>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >> AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 02:06:53 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:06:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow. EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: > > While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting? > > EMike > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: >> >> Thank you Mike! >> >> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great >> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks. >> >> 73, Stefan VE4NSA >> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl wrote: >>> >>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure >>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you >>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>> >>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>> >>> 73, >>> Mike Diehl >>> W8LID >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < >>> eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> Af6ep >>>> >>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>> organization is >>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper >>> ballots >>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save >>> the >>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent >>> mishaps >>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like >>> last >>>>> year. >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Gabe >>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the >>> AMSAT-NA >>>>>> office will not be counted. >>>>>> >>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>> >>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Clayton >>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions >>>>>> expressed >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> of >>>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>> AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 02:16:43 2018 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:16:43 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> Message-ID: Absolutely, nobody ever questioned the short term solution. Online voting seems like the obvious choice in the future though. 73, Mike Diehl W8LID > On Jul 17, 2018, at 22:06, E.Mike McCardel wrote: > > These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow. > > EMike > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: >> >> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting? >> >> EMike >> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Mike! >>> >>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great >>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks. >>> >>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl wrote: >>>> >>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure >>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you >>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>>> >>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Mike Diehl >>>> W8LID >>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < >>>> eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> Af6ep >>>>> >>>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>>> organization is >>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper >>>> ballots >>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save >>>> the >>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent >>>> mishaps >>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like >>>> last >>>>>> year. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Gabe >>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the >>>> AMSAT-NA >>>>>>> office will not be counted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>> Clayton >>>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions >>>>>>> expressed >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>> of >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>> of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>>> expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From glennmaillist at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 18 03:25:52 2018 From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net (Glenn Little WB4UIV) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:25:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Misassembled May/June Journal Message-ID: <5dc5734a-5156-7e25-2f1b-0a73a0b6852e@bellsouth.net> In looking at my May/June AMSAT Journal, I find mine has pages missing and others duplicated and out of order and others missing. Is mine the only one like this, or is this a batch problem? Thanks 73 Glenn WB4UIV -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Little ARRL Technical Specialist QCWA LM 28417 Amateur Callsign: WB4UIV wb4uiv at arrl.net AMSAT LM 2178 QTH: Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx) USSVI LM NRA LM SBE ARRL TAPR "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class of the Amateur that holds the license" From kl0s at cox.net Wed Jul 18 03:32:36 2018 From: kl0s at cox.net (Dino Papas) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:32:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Misassembled May/June Journal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81E587B6-E903-452F-9065-EAC1E92F3664@cox.net> Glenn - several of us received faulty copies, this came up here on the reflector a couple of weeks ago?Martha told me that she would send a replacement but haven?t received it yet?send her a note or call and request a replacement. 73 - Dino KL0S > On Jul 17, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: > > In looking at my May/June AMSAT Journal, I find mine has pages missing and others duplicated and out of order and others missing. > Is mine the only one like this, or is this a batch problem? > > Thanks > 73 > Glenn > WB4UIV From n0jy at amsat.org Wed Jul 18 04:02:21 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:02:21 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would encourage members to read the Bylaws on the AMSAT website, regarding voting. Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 7/17/2018 21:06, E.Mike McCardel wrote: > These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow. > > EMike > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: >> >> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting? >> >> EMike >> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Mike! >>> >>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great >>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks. >>> >>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl wrote: >>>> >>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure >>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you >>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>>> >>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Mike Diehl >>>> W8LID >>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < >>>> eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: >>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>>> Eric >>>>> Af6ep >>>>> >>>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >>>> wrote: >>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>>> organization is >>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper >>>> ballots >>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save >>>> the >>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent >>>> mishaps >>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like >>>> last >>>>>> year. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Gabe >>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the >>>> AMSAT-NA >>>>>>> office will not be counted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>> Clayton >>>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions >>>>>>> expressed >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>> of >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>> of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>>> expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tucker at mcguireland.com Wed Jul 18 04:17:18 2018 From: tucker at mcguireland.com (Tucker McGuire) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 00:17:18 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would also encourage the AMSAT-NA BOD to consider amending the bylaws, regarding voting. 73, Tucker W4FS On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > I would encourage members to read the Bylaws on the AMSAT website, > regarding voting. > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 7/17/2018 21:06, E.Mike McCardel wrote: > > These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That > said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to > me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for > now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization > grow. > > > > EMike > > > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel > wrote: > >> > >> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice > voting? > >> > >> EMike > >> > >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM > >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener > wrote: > >>> > >>> Thank you Mike! > >>> > >>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great > >>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks. > >>> > >>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA > >>> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, > secure > >>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to > print > >>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some > options to a > >>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, > you > >>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like > LOTW for > >>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. > >>>> > >>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? > the > >>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. > >>>> > >>>> 73, > >>>> Mike Diehl > >>>> W8LID > >>>> > >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < > >>>> eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: > >>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack > the > >>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior > to > >>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. > >>>>> Eric > >>>>> Af6ep > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent using SMTP. > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman < > gabrielzeifman at gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented > >>>> organization is > >>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper > >>>> ballots > >>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would > save > >>>> the > >>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent > >>>> mishaps > >>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots > like > >>>> last > >>>>>> year. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 73, > >>>>>> Gabe > >>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG < > tasmac at w5pfg.us> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to > AMSAT-NA > >>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 > have > >>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the > >>>> AMSAT-NA > >>>>>>> office will not be counted. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > >>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > >>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO > >>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH > >>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > >>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO > >>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving > the > >>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate > >>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 73, > >>>>>>> Clayton > >>>>>>> W5PFG > >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>> Opinions > >>>>>>> expressed > >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views > >>>> of > >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA. > >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>>> program! > >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>> Opinions expressed > >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views > >>>> of AMSAT-NA. > >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>>> program! > >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>> Opinions expressed > >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official > views of > >>>> AMSAT-NA. > >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >>>> program! > >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/ > listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > >>>> expressed > >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >>>> AMSAT-NA. > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From scott23192 at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 04:22:34 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 00:22:34 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Audio file to .kss file - part 2 In-Reply-To: <3c3ebbdb-4e63-1e46-6d1d-4d6bb61df9a6@msa.hinet.net> References: <3c3ebbdb-4e63-1e46-6d1d-4d6bb61df9a6@msa.hinet.net> Message-ID: I work some with telemetry decoding in both linux & Windows, but have never produced .KSS files in linux. If you have Wine installed to run the DK3WN decoder anyway, then the easiest path might be to play your audio file in Windows, feed the output to the appropriate UZ7HO software modem, and use Mike's "AGW Online Kiss" program which is at: http://www.dk3wn.info/files/agw_online_kiss.zip ... you'll be left with a .KSS file which of course is what you're looking for to use in the decoder. Not a "linux" solution, but the DK3WN decoders are Windows apps and I find them easiest to use with other Windows software. In contrast, decoders that run in GNU Radio on linux tend to be more compatible with output formats that we get from various linux programs. -Scott, K4KDR ========================== On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:41 PM, Hans BX2ABT wrote: > I got one step further, but haven't succeeded yet. I have some recorded > telemetry from XW2D and the decoded program from DK3WN up and running on > Linux using Wine. The telemetry program needs a .kss file to give some > useful data. > > This is how far I got: > > 1) run a PulseAudio null sink with this command: pactl > load-module-null-sink sink-name=virtual-cable > > 2) play the audio with Audacity > > 3) run Dire Wolf > > 4) use pavucontrol to set the output (Playback tab) for Audicity and the > input (Recording tab) for Dire Wolf to the null sink > > 5) Dire Wolf will now happily take the audio from Audacity, which you can > see by checking the VU meter in pavucontrol > > That's it. > > Dire Wolf has the -l command line option to set a directory for log files, > but no option to set the file name or any other hint on how to save data as > a file. I know it is mainly used as a pipe to decoding programs, but what > is the option to save to file? It is not always feasible to decode from a > live signal, so what I try to achieve is to decode from recorded material. > Any hints appreciated. > > 73 de Hans > > BX2ABT From k6fw1 at verizon.net Wed Jul 18 04:24:51 2018 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:24:51 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> Message-ID: <30bc382c-ec95-f2fb-90a8-8203986c4349@verizon.net> Bylaws can be changed to allow other forms of voting besides mail in ballots.? All is takes is 2/3 of the Directors to vote to amend the bylaws to allow electronic ballots.? This topic should be on the agenda for the annual meeting in November 2018. Frank Westphal, K6FW On 7/17/18 9:02 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: > I would encourage members to read the Bylaws on the AMSAT website, > regarding voting. > > Jerry Buxton, N?JY > > On 7/17/2018 21:06, E.Mike McCardel wrote: >> These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow. >> >> EMike >> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: >>> >>> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting? >>> >>> EMike >>> >>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you Mike! >>>> >>>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great >>>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks. >>>> >>>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure >>>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >>>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >>>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you >>>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >>>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>>>> >>>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >>>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Mike Diehl >>>>> W8LID >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < >>>>> eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: >>>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >>>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >>>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> Af6ep >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>>>> organization is >>>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper >>>>> ballots >>>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save >>>>> the >>>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent >>>>> mishaps >>>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like >>>>> last >>>>>>> year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>> Gabe >>>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the >>>>> AMSAT-NA >>>>>>>> office will not be counted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>>> Clayton >>>>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>> Opinions >>>>>>>> expressed >>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>>> of >>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>> program! >>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>> Opinions expressed >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>>> of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>> program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>> Opinions expressed >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>>>> expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 02:09:31 2018 From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:09:31 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mike, I disagree. I think mailing anonymous postcards on stock paper I can buy at Office Depot is superior in every way. First of all, 128-bit encryption is very succeptible to hacking by people trying to sabotage our small non-profit's election. Second, I think most of our members enjoy getting out, going to the post office, buying a stamp, and praying that USPS manages to get it there on time and in one piece. Not only that, but when a member accidentally does not receive a ballot, they simply cannot vote, which weeds out the non-dedicated members. The obvious choice for an organization looking to move forward and into the future is paper, forever. 73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 5:42 PM Mike Diehl wrote: > Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure > as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print > with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a > voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you > can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for > QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. > > Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the > elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. > > 73, > Mike Diehl > W8LID > > > On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < > eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: > > > > Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the > vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to > printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. > > > > Eric > > Af6ep > > > > Sent using SMTP. > > > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman > wrote: > >> > >> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented > organization is > >> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper > ballots > >> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save > the > >> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent > mishaps > >> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like > last > >> year. > >> > >> 73, > >> Gabe > >> AL6D/VE6NJH > >> > >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG > wrote: > >>> > >>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA > >>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have > >>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the > AMSAT-NA > >>> office will not be counted. > >>> > >>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > >>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > >>> > >>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > >>> Tom Clark, K3IO > >>> Mark Hammond, N8MH > >>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > >>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO > >>> Peter Portanova, W2JV > >>> > >>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the > >>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate > >>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Clayton > >>> W5PFG > >>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > >>> expressed > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of > >>> AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From afeller at ieee.org Wed Jul 18 04:43:56 2018 From: afeller at ieee.org (Arthur Feller) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 00:43:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <30bc382c-ec95-f2fb-90a8-8203986c4349@verizon.net> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> <30bc382c-ec95-f2fb-90a8-8203986c4349@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4E32136B-FE16-4C0F-98EA-121F3BEA5F23@ieee.org> Suggest writing your ideas with specific text to use for amending to the bylaws. Getting the words right helps you polish your ideas. Ok, so the devil is in the details, but addressing devilish details early in the process helps your ideas to be well received and considered. I hope this helps. 73, art..... W4ART Arlington VA http://afeller.us > On Jul 18, 2018, at 12:24 AM, Frank wrote: > > Bylaws can be changed to allow other forms of voting besides mail in ballots. All is takes is 2/3 of the Directors to vote to amend the bylaws to allow electronic ballots. This topic should be on the agenda for the annual meeting in November 2018. > > Frank Westphal, K6FW > >> On 7/17/18 9:02 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote: >> I would encourage members to read the Bylaws on the AMSAT website, >> regarding voting. >> >> Jerry Buxton, N?JY >> >>> On 7/17/2018 21:06, E.Mike McCardel wrote: >>> These all are good points and worth further discussion and debate. That said, paper ballots are how it?s currently done. Reissuing the ballots, to me, is the only logical way to protect the integrity of the election, for now. May I suggest that we stay involved and help make the organization grow. >>> >>> EMike >>> >>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:52 PM, E.Mike McCardel wrote: >>>> >>>> While thinking about changes, how about considering ranked choice voting? >>>> >>>> EMike >>>> >>>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >>>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Mike! >>>>> >>>>> There is nothing wrong with online voting. Done it for years with great >>>>> success. The benefits far outweigh any risks. >>>>> >>>>> 73, Stefan VE4NSA >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 8:43 PM Mike Diehl wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure >>>>>> as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >>>>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >>>>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you >>>>>> can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >>>>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>>>>> >>>>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >>>>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Mike Diehl >>>>>> W8LID >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < >>>>>> eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >>>>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >>>>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> Af6ep >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>>>>> organization is >>>>>>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper >>>>>> ballots >>>>>>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent >>>>>> mishaps >>>>>>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like >>>>>> last >>>>>>>> year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>>> Gabe >>>>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>>>>>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>>>>>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the >>>>>> AMSAT-NA >>>>>>>>> office will not be counted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>>>>>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>>>>>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>>>> Clayton >>>>>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>>> Opinions >>>>>>>>> expressed >>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>> program! >>>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>>> Opinions expressed >>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>>>> of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>> program! >>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>>> Opinions expressed >>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>> program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>>>>> expressed >>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org Wed Jul 18 04:55:10 2018 From: eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org (Eric Fort) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:55:10 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Message-ID: The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. Eric Af6ep Sent using SMTP. > On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: > > Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. > > Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. > > 73, > Mike Diehl > W8LID > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort wrote: >> >> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >> >> Eric >> Af6ep >> >> Sent using SMTP. >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: >>> >>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is >>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots >>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the >>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps >>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last >>> year. >>> >>> 73, >>> Gabe >>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: >>>> >>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA >>>> office will not be counted. >>>> >>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>> >>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>> >>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Clayton >>>> W5PFG >>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>>> expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k6fw1 at verizon.net Wed Jul 18 05:39:40 2018 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:39:40 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f529ee5-df4a-16e1-6c18-eb0a8f5b0053@verizon.net> If electronic ballots are good enough for the major investment firms board of directors elections, I can't imagine they would not be good enough for AMSAT. Frank K6FW On 7/17/18 9:55 PM, Eric Fort wrote: > The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. > > Eric > Af6ep > > Sent using SMTP. > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: >> >> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >> >> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >> >> 73, >> Mike Diehl >> W8LID >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort wrote: >>> >>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>> >>> Eric >>> Af6ep >>> >>> Sent using SMTP. >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: >>>> >>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented organization is >>>> having to waste so much money to print and mail two sets of paper ballots >>>> to each and every member. Seems to me that electronic voting would save the >>>> organization money, make voting more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps >>>> such as this, and prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last >>>> year. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Gabe >>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA >>>>> members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have >>>>> been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA >>>>> office will not be counted. >>>>> >>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>> >>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>> >>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the >>>>> highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate >>>>> members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Clayton >>>>> W5PFG >>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>>>> expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of >>>>> AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k6fw1 at verizon.net Wed Jul 18 05:57:05 2018 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:57:05 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2f529ee5-df4a-16e1-6c18-eb0a8f5b0053@verizon.net> Message-ID: <38b1d6f2-bd7c-fbf7-25c5-7e398da31975@verizon.net> I do too.? I received my ballot today with 40 cents postage on the envelope.? AMSAT has around 3000 members last count I remember reading.? That means it cost $1200 in postage to mail out the ballots the first time.? Now the second mailing will cost another $1200 in postage.? Now add the cost of envelopes, paper and printing.? How many members have to renew at $48 to pay for the election.? For a small organization fighting to survive financially this is not an insignificant amount of money. 73, Frank K6FW On 7/17/18 10:46 PM, Devin L. Ganger wrote: > I, for one, want to spend AMSAT $$$ on satellites and ground terminals, not voting systems. > > Maybe I'm crazy. > > > -- > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) > email:?devin at thecabal.org > web:?Devin on Earth > cell:?+1 425.239.2575 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Frank >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:40 PM >> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots >> >> If electronic ballots are good enough for the major investment firms board of >> directors elections, I can't imagine they would not be good enough for >> AMSAT. >> >> Frank >> K6FW >> On 7/17/18 9:55 PM, Eric Fort wrote: >>> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the >> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts >> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot >> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and >> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and >> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated >> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the >> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity >> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers >> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do >> the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. >>> Eric >>> Af6ep >>> >>> Sent using SMTP. >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: >>>> >>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as >> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can >> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>>> 73, >>>> Mike Diehl >>>> W8LID >>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort >> wrote: >>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>>> Eric >>>>> Af6ep >>>>> >>>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >> wrote: >>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two >>>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that >>>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting >>>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and >>>>>> prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last year. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Gabe >>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >> wrote: >>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July >>>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots >>>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving >>>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two >>>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of >> votes received. >>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>> Clayton >>>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >>>>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur >> satellite program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do >> not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From devin at thecabal.org Wed Jul 18 05:46:27 2018 From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 05:46:27 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <2f529ee5-df4a-16e1-6c18-eb0a8f5b0053@verizon.net> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2f529ee5-df4a-16e1-6c18-eb0a8f5b0053@verizon.net> Message-ID: I, for one, want to spend AMSAT $$$ on satellites and ground terminals, not voting systems. Maybe I'm crazy. -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email:?devin at thecabal.org web:?Devin on Earth cell:?+1 425.239.2575 > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Frank > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:40 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots > > If electronic ballots are good enough for the major investment firms board of > directors elections, I can't imagine they would not be good enough for > AMSAT. > > Frank > K6FW > On 7/17/18 9:55 PM, Eric Fort wrote: > > The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the > keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts > one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot > is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and > registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and > only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated > from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the > digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity > simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers > and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do > the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. > > > > Eric > > Af6ep > > > > Sent using SMTP. > > > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: > >> > >> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as > your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print > with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a > voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can > pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for > QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. > >> > >> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the > elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. > >> > >> 73, > >> Mike Diehl > >> W8LID > >> > >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort > wrote: > >>> > >>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the > vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to > printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. > >>> > >>> Eric > >>> Af6ep > >>> > >>> Sent using SMTP. > >>> > >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented > >>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two > >>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that > >>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting > >>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and > >>>> prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last year. > >>>> > >>>> 73, > >>>> Gabe > >>>> AL6D/VE6NJH > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to > >>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July > >>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots > >>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. > >>>>> > >>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > >>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > >>>>> > >>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > >>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO > >>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH > >>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > >>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO > >>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV > >>>>> > >>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving > >>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two > >>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of > votes received. > >>>>> > >>>>> 73, > >>>>> Clayton > >>>>> W5PFG > >>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > >>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and > >>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite program! > >>>>> Subscription settings: > >>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > >>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and > do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>>> Subscription settings: > >>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > >>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do > not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: > >>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rhyolite at leikhim.com Wed Jul 18 05:39:35 2018 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 01:39:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] TAPR JAMSAT TRAKBOX Questions Message-ID: <799e2047-0511-f926-0db1-93e3c8a8ef64@leikhim.com> I am on a mission to complete all my nagging projects. I have a TAPR JAMSAT TRAKBOX that I modified for Y2K and Turbo a while back and I am now going to replace the ancient BR lithium battery with a fresh one and install a backlighted LCD display. I find today the 16 position alphanumeric BCD switch seems flaky and unresponsive. Is that the electronics ignoring it for some reason or do these switches fail? If the latter, does anyone know of a source of that specific pushbutton BCD switch? Also has anyone used a USB to serial adaptor with th TRAKBOX? -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim at Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM From rhyolite at leikhim.com Wed Jul 18 06:22:20 2018 From: rhyolite at leikhim.com (Joe Leikhim) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:22:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] TAPR JAMSAT TRAKBOX Questions In-Reply-To: <799e2047-0511-f926-0db1-93e3c8a8ef64@leikhim.com> References: <799e2047-0511-f926-0db1-93e3c8a8ef64@leikhim.com> Message-ID: <6b475a0d-2eb9-7d57-67bc-12c5438f1606@leikhim.com> Well it is definitely not the switch. The BCD values are correct. What is happening is that rather frequently it will misread memory position 3 as position 1 and then will hang with that satellite regardless of the BCD values of the switch. When it does work, it will properly select all the memories until I pass terminal mode and then , even with a reset, it wont read properly past position 2 again. I re-seated the IC where the BCD inputs are buffered, but no joy. The bus voltage does look a bit shy of 5V but I don't think that should be a concern.? Has anyone with the turbo upgrade reported this? This TrakBox is a real clean build so I doubt any problems with bad solder. I will check the power regulator tomorrow. Just really curious if anyone is using these still and if they are having troubles. Yes I know there are more modern solutions, but this is entirely standalone and does have doppler correction. Joe On 7/18/2018 1:39 AM, Joe Leikhim wrote: > I am on a mission to complete all my nagging projects. > > I have a TAPR JAMSAT TRAKBOX that I modified for Y2K and Turbo a while > back and I am now going to replace the ancient BR lithium battery with > a fresh one and install a backlighted LCD display. I find today the 16 > position alphanumeric BCD switch seems flaky and unresponsive. Is that > the electronics ignoring it for some reason or do these switches fail? > > If the latter, does anyone know of a source of that specific > pushbutton BCD switch? > > Also has anyone used a USB to serial adaptor with th TRAKBOX? > > -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida JLeikhim at Leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM From devin at thecabal.org Wed Jul 18 05:11:09 2018 From: devin at thecabal.org (Devin L. Ganger) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 05:11:09 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Message-ID: Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing them *correctly* is not. -- Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) email:?devin at thecabal.org web:?Devin on Earth cell:?+1 425.239.2575 > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Eric Fort > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM > To: Mike Diehl > Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG ; AMSAT Mailing List > ; Gabriel Zeifman > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots > > The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the > keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts > one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot > is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and > registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and > only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated > from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the > digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity > simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers > and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do > the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. > > Eric > Af6ep > > Sent using SMTP. > > > On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: > > > > Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as > your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print > with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a > voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can > pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for > QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. > > > > Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the > elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. > > > > 73, > > Mike Diehl > > W8LID > > > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort > wrote: > >> > >> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the > vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to > printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. > >> > >> Eric > >> Af6ep > >> > >> Sent using SMTP. > >> > >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman > wrote: > >>> > >>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented > >>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two > >>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that > >>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting > >>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and prevent > >>> some members from not receiving ballots like last year. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Gabe > >>> AL6D/VE6NJH > >>> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to > >>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July > >>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots > >>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. > >>>> > >>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > >>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > >>>> > >>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > >>>> Tom Clark, K3IO > >>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH > >>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > >>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO > >>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV > >>>> > >>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving > >>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two > >>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of > votes received. > >>>> > >>>> 73, > >>>> Clayton > >>>> W5PFG > >>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > >>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and > >>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>>> Subscription settings: > >>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > >>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do > not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >>> Subscription settings: > >>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 12:44:40 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:44:40 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> What would the upfront cost of setting up electronic voting? It seems to me that it would be analogous to Solar electricity. Higher end, up front cost verses ?free? power down the road. If you are advocating the change are you willing to invest your own time energy and perhaps $$$ to reduce the cost to AMSAT? After all can a cash strapped organization afford $10k or higher solution right now, even for lower cost in the future? Regardless this will not be an overnight solution. Like building a satellite it will require planning and deadlines and engineering, both software and social. I personally like the idea on online voting. I also like the idea of electronic delivery of the Journal, but we have found even that is a bit more complicated and costly than one might think. 73 EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Devin L. Ganger wrote: > > Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing them *correctly* is not. > > > -- > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) > email: devin at thecabal.org > web: Devin on Earth > cell: +1 425.239.2575 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Eric Fort >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM >> To: Mike Diehl >> Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG ; AMSAT Mailing List >> ; Gabriel Zeifman >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots >> >> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the >> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts >> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot >> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and >> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and >> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated >> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the >> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity >> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers >> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do >> the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. >> >> Eric >> Af6ep >> >> Sent using SMTP. >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: >>> >>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as >> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can >> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>> >>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>> >>> 73, >>> Mike Diehl >>> W8LID >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> Af6ep >>>> >>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two >>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that >>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting >>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and prevent >>>>> some members from not receiving ballots like last year. >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Gabe >>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to >>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July >>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots >>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. >>>>>> >>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>> >>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving >>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two >>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of >> votes received. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Clayton >>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >>>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do >> not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From sehaque at tekterrain.com Wed Jul 18 06:52:58 2018 From: sehaque at tekterrain.com (Samudra Haque [TTLLC]) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:52:58 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> Message-ID: <853e9218822a4062a27d4c7f68d6bcde@tekterrain.com> Hmmm. Why would a completely separate mailing, at additional production and mailing cost, be necessary to correct mis-printed ballots? Conventionally If there are known errors (errata) of a publication, often the authors issue a notice and direct readers to download/print out the notice for their own use. Later those edits/changes are inserted in the next edition. As long as the notice is properly authorized, widely distributed (web, e-mail should be fine - after all that is how AMSAT membership is managed), then anyone who wants to vote, only needs to follow the errata instructions (e.g., "print out the new ballot form", "modify line 1: omit 'xxx' and insert 'yyy') on the ballot they have received, and then they can go ahead and walk to the post office, put on a stamp and post it. That would be the equivalent of writing in candidates if a voting system allows it, and their names are not on the official ballot for some reason votes. I vote in IEEE and AIAA groups, so what would be the advantage (other than following SOP another expensive paper ballot) - that doesn't preclude the risk of making another mistake in preparing the ballot. What would happen if there is another mistake? Perhaps a THIRD ballot then? Seriously, a special resolution by AMSAT BOD at any meeting could solve this issue. Disclaimer: I haven't read the by-laws but they can't possibly be detailed enough to instruct a board how to handle bungled ballot cards (I hope) in such a rigid manner. Apologies if I am wrong on the mechanism of votes. 73 de N3RDX -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clayton Coleman W5PFG Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:33 PM To: AMSAT-BB Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: Tom Clark, K3IO Mark Hammond, N8MH Scott Harvey, KA7FVV Bruce Paige, KK5DO Peter Portanova, W2JV The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. 73, Clayton W5PFG AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! 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From sehaque at tekterrain.com Wed Jul 18 12:55:01 2018 From: sehaque at tekterrain.com (Samudra Haque [TTLLC]) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:55:01 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies In-Reply-To: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> References: <24121bcded694d7cb618d5ba6692df90@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: <491e9af5b3ee4add8ba96c95384dc758@tekterrain.com> Thank you all posters on this thread for the great set of information Samudra N3RDX -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Samudra Haque [TTLLC] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:29 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] seeking info on AMSAT (any platform) utilization of >2 GHz frequencies Hi, I am experimenting with RF carriers above 2 GHz in my lab. According to FCC and ITU tables there are several AMATEUR-SATELLITE bands allocated above 2 GHz, to very very high frequencies. 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Proposing a specific and workable solution is even more valuable!! Go for it!! Be POSITIVE! 73?.. > On 18-Jul-2018, at 01:57 AM, Frank wrote: > > I do too. I received my ballot today with 40 cents postage on the envelope. AMSAT has around 3000 members last count I remember reading. That means it cost $1200 in postage to mail out the ballots the first time. Now the second mailing will cost another $1200 in postage. Now add the cost of envelopes, paper and printing. How many members have to renew at $48 to pay for the election. For a small organization fighting to survive financially this is not an insignificant amount of money. > > 73, > Frank > K6FW > > On 7/17/18 10:46 PM, Devin L. Ganger wrote: >> I, for one, want to spend AMSAT $$$ on satellites and ground terminals, not voting systems. >> >> Maybe I'm crazy. >> >> >> -- >> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) >> email: devin at thecabal.org >> web: Devin on Earth >> cell: +1 425.239.2575 >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Frank >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:40 PM >>> To: amsat-bb at amsat.org >>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots >>> >>> If electronic ballots are good enough for the major investment firms board of >>> directors elections, I can't imagine they would not be good enough for >>> AMSAT. >>> >>> Frank >>> K6FW >>> On 7/17/18 9:55 PM, Eric Fort wrote: >>>> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the >>> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts >>> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot >>> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and >>> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and >>> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated >>> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the >>> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity >>> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers >>> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do >>> the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. >>>> Eric >>>> Af6ep >>>> >>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as >>> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can >>> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>>>> 73, >>>>> Mike Diehl >>>>> W8LID >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort >>> wrote: >>>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> Af6ep >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >>> wrote: >>>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>>>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two >>>>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that >>>>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting >>>>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and >>>>>>> prevent some members from not receiving ballots like last year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>> Gabe >>>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to >>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July >>>>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots >>>>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving >>>>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two >>>>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of >>> votes received. >>>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>>> Clayton >>>>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >>>>>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur >>> satellite program! >>>>>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do >>> not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>> available >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >>> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> of AMSAT-NA. >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> program! >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb To thrive in life, you need three bones: a wish bone, a back bone, and a funny bone. - Reba McEntire http://afeller.us From gzook at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 14:08:59 2018 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <619260742.6518855.1531922939314@mail.yahoo.com> I agree that electronic voting is, by far, the cheapest way of doing things.? However, there are problems with how to insure that only 1-vote is cast and by? the actual member. Notification of an upcoming election can be made through the newsletter.? But, to get everyone's attention, the announcement needs to be on the front cover and taking up at least half of that cover.? Then, to insure that only 1 ballot can be cast, there needs to be some code number attached.? However, if someone really wanted to find out how an individual voted, they might be able to connect the code number with that person. To prevent this, there would have to be a random generation of the code number, but that would prevent duplication, which would then be printed on the address label.? The member would then enter the code number when voting. Also, for those members who do not have computer access (yes, there are a few), those members should be provided with a means to vote by mail such as sending in a letter with only the code number as identification.?? ?Glen, K9STH?AMSAT-239 / LM-0463 Website: http://k9sth.net From: Devin L. Ganger To: Eric Fort ; Mike Diehl Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG ; AMSAT Mailing List ; Gabriel Zeifman Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing them *correctly* is not. From gabrielzeifman at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 14:53:51 2018 From: gabrielzeifman at gmail.com (Gabriel Zeifman) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:53:51 -0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> Message-ID: Does AMSAT maintain a printing press and envelope factory to produce the current mailings? I think the solution is called "contracting" and I am aware that there are companies that offer such services at a reasonable cost. 73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:53 AM E.Mike McCardel wrote: > What would the upfront cost of setting up electronic voting? It seems to > me that it would be analogous to Solar electricity. Higher end, up front > cost verses ?free? power down the road. > If you are advocating the change are you willing to invest your own time > energy and perhaps $$$ to reduce the cost to AMSAT? After all can a cash > strapped organization afford $10k or higher solution right now, even for > lower cost in the future? > Regardless this will not be an overnight solution. Like building a > satellite it will require planning and deadlines and engineering, both > software and social. > I personally like the idea on online voting. I also like the idea of > electronic delivery of the Journal, but we have found even that is a bit > more complicated and costly than one might think. > > 73 > EMike > > > EMike McCardel, AA8EM > Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Devin L. Ganger wrote: > > > > Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing them > *correctly* is not. > > > > > > -- > > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) > > email: devin at thecabal.org > > web: Devin on Earth > > cell: +1 425.239.2575 > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Eric Fort > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM > >> To: Mike Diehl > >> Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG ; AMSAT Mailing List > >> ; Gabriel Zeifman > >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots > >> > >> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the > >> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only > casts > >> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the > paper ballot > >> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and > >> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one > and > >> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then > separated > >> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In > the > >> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity > >> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire > papers > >> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact > thing. Do > >> the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. > >> > >> Eric > >> Af6ep > >> > >> Sent using SMTP. > >> > >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl > wrote: > >>> > >>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, > secure as > >> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print > >> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options > to a > >> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, > you can > >> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for > >> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. > >>> > >>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the > >> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Mike Diehl > >>> W8LID > >>> > >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort < > eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack > the > >> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to > >> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. > >>>> > >>>> Eric > >>>> Af6ep > >>>> > >>>> Sent using SMTP. > >>>> > >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented > >>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two > >>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that > >>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting > >>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and prevent > >>>>> some members from not receiving ballots like last year. > >>>>> > >>>>> 73, > >>>>> Gabe > >>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG > >> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to > >>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July > >>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots > >>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > >>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > >>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO > >>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH > >>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > >>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO > >>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving > >>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two > >>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of > >> votes received. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 73, > >>>>>> Clayton > >>>>>> W5PFG > >>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > >>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and > >>>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >>>>>> Subscription settings: > >>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring > >>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do > >> not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >>>>> Subscription settings: > >>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum > >> available > >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect > the > >> official views of AMSAT-NA. > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions > >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the > official views > >> of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >> program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From vlfiscus at mcn.net Wed Jul 18 16:15:09 2018 From: vlfiscus at mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:15:09 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <36.E5.09716.FEE7E4B5@smtp02.aqua.bos.sync.lan> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20180718101056.00c52770@pop.earthlink.net> At 06:42 PM 7/17/2018 -0500, Scott Medbury wrote: >These errors seem to be increasing in frequency. Scott KD5FBA I hope it's not Russian's hacking our elections. KB7ADL From n0jy at amsat.org Wed Jul 18 16:39:07 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:39:07 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3bd84c08-a9ee-2b71-496f-53c9e71cb493@amsat.org> On 7/17/2018 23:17, Tucker McGuire wrote: > I would also encourage the AMSAT-NA BOD to consider amending the > bylaws, regarding voting. The subject was brought up on the Tactical Planning Teleconference Tuesday night.? The Board of Directors is aware of the issue of course, and I'm sure there will be further consideration.? I'm sure that will be a lively discussion.? I just wanted to point out where the process is laid out and what has to be done to change it, for the purpose of the discussion here. Jerry Buxton, N?JY From eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org Wed Jul 18 16:52:25 2018 From: eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org (Eric Fort) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:52:25 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1DCFFF06-D255-45DD-8DBA-BA64BE6FEFAC@fortconsulting.org> Perhaps there is a happy medium here. How about emailing the ballot as a pdf to each member. If necessary each pdf could be encoded slightly different (possibly serialized) for each member. It is then up to the member to print and mail the return ballot. If one wanted to squabble over postage that can be printed as well. The key to this is that the info that identifies the unique ballot is not linked in any way to the member it was sent to but the member can verify from the serial number that is known only to them that the ballot was received and counted. Eric Af6ep Sent using SMTP. > On Jul 18, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: > > Does AMSAT maintain a printing press and envelope factory to produce the current mailings? I think the solution is called "contracting" and I am aware that there are companies that offer such services at a reasonable cost. > > 73, > Gabe > AL6D/VE6NJH > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:53 AM E.Mike McCardel wrote: >> What would the upfront cost of setting up electronic voting? It seems to me that it would be analogous to Solar electricity. Higher end, up front cost verses ?free? power down the road. >> If you are advocating the change are you willing to invest your own time energy and perhaps $$$ to reduce the cost to AMSAT? After all can a cash strapped organization afford $10k or higher solution right now, even for lower cost in the future? >> Regardless this will not be an overnight solution. Like building a satellite it will require planning and deadlines and engineering, both software and social. >> I personally like the idea on online voting. I also like the idea of electronic delivery of the Journal, but we have found even that is a bit more complicated and costly than one might think. >> >> 73 >> EMike >> >> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Devin L. Ganger wrote: >> > >> > Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing them *correctly* is not. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) >> > email: devin at thecabal.org >> > web: Devin on Earth >> > cell: +1 425.239.2575 >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Eric Fort >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM >> >> To: Mike Diehl >> >> Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG ; AMSAT Mailing List >> >> ; Gabriel Zeifman >> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots >> >> >> >> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the >> >> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts >> >> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot >> >> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and >> >> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and >> >> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated >> >> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the >> >> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity >> >> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers >> >> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do >> >> the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. >> >> >> >> Eric >> >> Af6ep >> >> >> >> Sent using SMTP. >> >> >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as >> >> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >> >> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >> >> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can >> >> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >> >> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >> >>> >> >>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >> >> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >> >>> >> >>> 73, >> >>> Mike Diehl >> >>> W8LID >> >>> >> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort >> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >> >> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >> >> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >> >>>> >> >>>> Eric >> >>>> Af6ep >> >>>> >> >>>> Sent using SMTP. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >> >>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two >> >>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that >> >>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting >> >>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and prevent >> >>>>> some members from not receiving ballots like last year. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 73, >> >>>>> Gabe >> >>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to >> >>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July >> >>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots >> >>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >> >>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >> >>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >> >>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >> >>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >> >>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >> >>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving >> >>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two >> >>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of >> >> votes received. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 73, >> >>>>>> Clayton >> >>>>>> W5PFG >> >>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> >>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >> >>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >> >>>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >> program! >> >>>>>> Subscription settings: >> >>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> >>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >> >>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do >> >> not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >> program! >> >>>>> Subscription settings: >> >>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >> >> available >> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >> >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >> >> program! >> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jul 18 16:54:33 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:54:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <1DCFFF06-D255-45DD-8DBA-BA64BE6FEFAC@fortconsulting.org> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> <1DCFFF06-D255-45DD-8DBA-BA64BE6FEFAC@fortconsulting.org> Message-ID: Remember that we have life members dating to the early 1970s. We don't have email addresses for all of our members in order to do something like that. 73, Paul, N8HM On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Eric Fort wrote: > Perhaps there is a happy medium here. How about emailing the ballot as a pdf to each member. If necessary each pdf could be encoded slightly different (possibly serialized) for each member. It is then up to the member to print and mail the return ballot. If one wanted to squabble over postage that can be printed as well. The key to this is that the info that identifies the unique ballot is not linked in any way to the member it was sent to but the member can verify from the serial number that is known only to them that the ballot was received and counted. > > Eric > Af6ep > > Sent using SMTP. > >> On Jul 18, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: >> >> Does AMSAT maintain a printing press and envelope factory to produce the current mailings? I think the solution is called "contracting" and I am aware that there are companies that offer such services at a reasonable cost. >> >> 73, >> Gabe >> AL6D/VE6NJH >> >>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:53 AM E.Mike McCardel wrote: >>> What would the upfront cost of setting up electronic voting? It seems to me that it would be analogous to Solar electricity. Higher end, up front cost verses ?free? power down the road. >>> If you are advocating the change are you willing to invest your own time energy and perhaps $$$ to reduce the cost to AMSAT? After all can a cash strapped organization afford $10k or higher solution right now, even for lower cost in the future? >>> Regardless this will not be an overnight solution. Like building a satellite it will require planning and deadlines and engineering, both software and social. >>> I personally like the idea on online voting. I also like the idea of electronic delivery of the Journal, but we have found even that is a bit more complicated and costly than one might think. >>> >>> 73 >>> EMike >>> >>> >>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Devin L. Ganger wrote: >>> > >>> > Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing them *correctly* is not. >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) >>> > email: devin at thecabal.org >>> > web: Devin on Earth >>> > cell: +1 425.239.2575 >>> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Eric Fort >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM >>> >> To: Mike Diehl >>> >> Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG ; AMSAT Mailing List >>> >> ; Gabriel Zeifman >>> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots >>> >> >>> >> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the >>> >> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts >>> >> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot >>> >> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and >>> >> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and >>> >> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated >>> >> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the >>> >> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity >>> >> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers >>> >> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do >>> >> the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. >>> >> >>> >> Eric >>> >> Af6ep >>> >> >>> >> Sent using SMTP. >>> >> >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as >>> >> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >>> >> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >>> >> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can >>> >> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >>> >> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>> >>> >>> >>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >>> >> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>> >>> >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Mike Diehl >>> >>> W8LID >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort >>> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >>> >> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >>> >> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Eric >>> >>>> Af6ep >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Sent using SMTP. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >>> >> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>> >>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two >>> >>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that >>> >>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting >>> >>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and prevent >>> >>>>> some members from not receiving ballots like last year. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> 73, >>> >>>>> Gabe >>> >>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >>> >> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to >>> >>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July >>> >>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots >>> >>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>> >>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>> >>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>> >>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>> >>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>> >>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>> >>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving >>> >>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two >>> >>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of >>> >> votes received. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> 73, >>> >>>>>> Clayton >>> >>>>>> W5PFG >>> >>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>> >>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>> >>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >>> >>>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> >> program! >>> >>>>>> Subscription settings: >>> >>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>> >>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>> >>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do >>> >> not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> >> program! >>> >>>>> Subscription settings: >>> >>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>> >> available >>> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>> >>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >>> >> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> >> program! >>> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>> >> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>> >> of AMSAT-NA. >>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>> >> program! >>> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From kk5do at amsat.org Wed Jul 18 16:54:06 2018 From: kk5do at amsat.org (Bruce) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:54:06 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <3bd84c08-a9ee-2b71-496f-53c9e71cb493@amsat.org> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <42E57FD0-C9B3-4831-8627-901ED67133FB@gmail.com> <02C3E61D-B7CE-476A-A94A-0109F6A1B545@gmail.com> <3bd84c08-a9ee-2b71-496f-53c9e71cb493@amsat.org> Message-ID: <1E008F23-60EE-4A42-81CF-1B73E0C1D44B@amsat.org> The cost for electronic voting would still involve mailing out a ballot. That cannot be changed. A corporation must abide by certain rules. We could hire a company to do electronic ballots which would be an additional charge. There is no one time setup and then less expensive year after year. The companies that do this charge every year. I do not think we have the resources to do mail and electronic ballots at this time. This has been discussed many times by the board. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Jerry Buxton wrote: On 7/17/2018 23:17, Tucker McGuire wrote: > I would also encourage the AMSAT-NA BOD to consider amending the > bylaws, regarding voting. The subject was brought up on the Tactical Planning Teleconference Tuesday night. The Board of Directors is aware of the issue of course, and I'm sure there will be further consideration. I'm sure that will be a lively discussion. I just wanted to point out where the process is laid out and what has to be done to change it, for the purpose of the discussion here. Jerry Buxton, N?JY _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org Wed Jul 18 17:03:13 2018 From: eric.fort.listmail at fortconsulting.org (Eric Fort) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:03:13 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> <1DCFFF06-D255-45DD-8DBA-BA64BE6FEFAC@fortconsulting.org> Message-ID: <5E343D35-1EC0-4696-BDE8-66111320DA54@fortconsulting.org> Good point. But perhaps to significantly reduce the costs of mailing an opt in to receiving the ballot via email could be instituted. While the opt in should probably be done by paper such that there is a verifiable record of such it could easily be done via a printable form the same as voting and the form mailed with renewal or separately at any time. Eric Af6ep Sent using SMTP. > On Jul 18, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > Remember that we have life members dating to the early 1970s. We don't > have email addresses for all of our members in order to do something > like that. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Eric Fort > wrote: >> Perhaps there is a happy medium here. How about emailing the ballot as a pdf to each member. If necessary each pdf could be encoded slightly different (possibly serialized) for each member. It is then up to the member to print and mail the return ballot. If one wanted to squabble over postage that can be printed as well. The key to this is that the info that identifies the unique ballot is not linked in any way to the member it was sent to but the member can verify from the serial number that is known only to them that the ballot was received and counted. >> >> Eric >> Af6ep >> >> Sent using SMTP. >> >>> On Jul 18, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Gabriel Zeifman wrote: >>> >>> Does AMSAT maintain a printing press and envelope factory to produce the current mailings? I think the solution is called "contracting" and I am aware that there are companies that offer such services at a reasonable cost. >>> >>> 73, >>> Gabe >>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:53 AM E.Mike McCardel wrote: >>>> What would the upfront cost of setting up electronic voting? It seems to me that it would be analogous to Solar electricity. Higher end, up front cost verses ?free? power down the road. >>>> If you are advocating the change are you willing to invest your own time energy and perhaps $$$ to reduce the cost to AMSAT? After all can a cash strapped organization afford $10k or higher solution right now, even for lower cost in the future? >>>> Regardless this will not be an overnight solution. Like building a satellite it will require planning and deadlines and engineering, both software and social. >>>> I personally like the idea on online voting. I also like the idea of electronic delivery of the Journal, but we have found even that is a bit more complicated and costly than one might think. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> EMike >>>> >>>> >>>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM >>>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Devin L. Ganger wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing them *correctly* is not. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) >>>>> email: devin at thecabal.org >>>>> web: Devin on Earth >>>>> cell: +1 425.239.2575 >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Eric Fort >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM >>>>>> To: Mike Diehl >>>>>> Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG ; AMSAT Mailing List >>>>>> ; Gabriel Zeifman >>>>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots >>>>>> >>>>>> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind the >>>>>> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter only casts >>>>>> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is the paper ballot >>>>>> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature and >>>>>> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that one and >>>>>> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then separated >>>>>> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the voter. In the >>>>>> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and verifiablity >>>>>> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire papers >>>>>> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact thing. Do >>>>>> the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> Af6ep >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, secure as >>>>>> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to print >>>>>> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some options to a >>>>>> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more convenient, you can >>>>>> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW for >>>>>> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people ?hacking? the >>>>>> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>> Mike Diehl >>>>>>> W8LID >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to ?hack the >>>>>> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught prior to >>>>>> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>> Af6ep >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent using SMTP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented >>>>>>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail two >>>>>>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that >>>>>>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting >>>>>>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and prevent >>>>>>>>> some members from not receiving ballots like last year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>>>> Gabe >>>>>>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to >>>>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July >>>>>>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots >>>>>>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on >>>>>>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: >>>>>>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO >>>>>>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH >>>>>>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV >>>>>>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO >>>>>>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving >>>>>>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two >>>>>>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of >>>>>> votes received. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>>>>> Clayton >>>>>>>>>> W5PFG >>>>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and >>>>>>>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>> program! >>>>>>>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring >>>>>>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do >>>>>> not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>> program! >>>>>>>>> Subscription settings: >>>>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum >>>>>> available >>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >>>>>>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the >>>>>> official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>> program! >>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions >>>>>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >>>>>> of AMSAT-NA. >>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >>>>>> program! >>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n0jy at amsat.org Wed Jul 18 17:09:31 2018 From: n0jy at amsat.org (Jerry Buxton) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 12:09:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> <1DCFFF06-D255-45DD-8DBA-BA64BE6FEFAC@fortconsulting.org> Message-ID: True, and like it or not, "not everybody has email". Jerry Buxton, N?JY On 7/18/2018 11:54, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Remember that we have life members dating to the early 1970s. We don't > have email addresses for all of our members in order to do something > like that. From marklhammond at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 17:10:07 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:10:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> <1DCFFF06-D255-45DD-8DBA-BA64BE6FEFAC@fortconsulting.org> Message-ID: Paul hits on a real issue-making sure that folks have a chance to vote, regardless of media type. As mentioned already in this thread, and from my perspective as a Board member now up for election renewal--rest assured that a well researched written proposal for something like moving to electronic voting would be given a good fair and full review by the Board and Officers. There are many points being brought up in this thread right now--but suggesting a change that requires a change to the by-laws of an organization should obviously be well researched and reviewed. It'll take a good amount of time and thought, certainly worth doing for something so important to an organization. 73, Mark N8MH On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Remember that we have life members dating to the early 1970s. We don't > have email addresses for all of our members in order to do something > like that. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Eric Fort > wrote: > > Perhaps there is a happy medium here. How about emailing the ballot as a > pdf to each member. If necessary each pdf could be encoded slightly > different (possibly serialized) for each member. It is then up to the > member to print and mail the return ballot. If one wanted to squabble over > postage that can be printed as well. The key to this is that the info that > identifies the unique ballot is not linked in any way to the member it was > sent to but the member can verify from the serial number that is known only > to them that the ballot was received and counted. > > > > Eric > > Af6ep > > > > Sent using SMTP. > > > >> On Jul 18, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Gabriel Zeifman > wrote: > >> > >> Does AMSAT maintain a printing press and envelope factory to produce > the current mailings? I think the solution is called "contracting" and I am > aware that there are companies that offer such services at a reasonable > cost. > >> > >> 73, > >> Gabe > >> AL6D/VE6NJH > >> > >>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 4:53 AM E.Mike McCardel > wrote: > >>> What would the upfront cost of setting up electronic voting? It seems > to me that it would be analogous to Solar electricity. Higher end, up front > cost verses ?free? power down the road. > >>> If you are advocating the change are you willing to invest your own > time energy and perhaps $$$ to reduce the cost to AMSAT? After all can a > cash strapped organization afford $10k or higher solution right now, even > for lower cost in the future? > >>> Regardless this will not be an overnight solution. Like building a > satellite it will require planning and deadlines and engineering, both > software and social. > >>> I personally like the idea on online voting. I also like the idea of > electronic delivery of the Journal, but we have found even that is a bit > more complicated and costly than one might think. > >>> > >>> 73 > >>> EMike > >>> > >>> > >>> EMike McCardel, AA8EM > >>> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Devin L. Ganger > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Concur with AF6EP. Doing electronic ballots is inexpensive. Doing > them *correctly* is not. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Devin L. Ganger (WA7DLG) > >>> > email: devin at thecabal.org > >>> > web: Devin on Earth > >>> > cell: +1 425.239.2575 > >>> > > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: AMSAT-BB On Behalf Of Eric Fort > >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM > >>> >> To: Mike Diehl > >>> >> Cc: Clayton Coleman W5PFG ; AMSAT Mailing List > >>> >> ; Gabriel Zeifman > >>> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors > Ballots > >>> >> > >>> >> The basic problem with electronic voting is proving who is behind > the > >>> >> keyboard and tracing the data with integrity such that each voter > only casts > >>> >> one ballot. With paper ballots this is possible. What is done is > the paper ballot > >>> >> is placed in an envelope that is signed by the voter. The signature > and > >>> >> registration info can then be compared on receipt, verifying that > one and > >>> >> only one ballot was cast by that specific voter. The ballot is then > separated > >>> >> from the envelope to be counted assuring the anonymity of the > voter. In the > >>> >> digital realm one can not have anonymity, traceability, and > verifiablity > >>> >> simultaneously. These are mathematically proven therems and entire > papers > >>> >> and PhD thesis?s have been written on this topic proving this exact > thing. Do > >>> >> the research. Paper verified ballots really are the only way. > >>> >> > >>> >> Eric > >>> >> Af6ep > >>> >> > >>> >> Sent using SMTP. > >>> >> > >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Mike Diehl > wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Disagree. There are online services that are just as, if not more, > secure as > >>> >> your medical information or where you spend your money. Going to > print > >>> >> with anything takes a lot more work than simply providing some > options to a > >>> >> voting service. Then there?s postage. Online is also more > convenient, you can > >>> >> pretty much do it anytime, anywhere you want. Think of it like LOTW > for > >>> >> QSLs, saves a ton in paper, postage and trips to the post. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Last but not least is I don?t see a real threat of people > ?hacking? the > >>> >> elections for jobs that don?t pay and are full of criticism. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 73, > >>> >>> Mike Diehl > >>> >>> W8LID > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 19:44, Eric Fort fortconsulting.org> > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Let?s not get into electronic voting. Too much opportunity to > ?hack the > >>> >> vote?. It?s unfortunate that an error was made and not caught > prior to > >>> >> printing and mailing but electronic voting is not the answer. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Eric > >>> >>>> Af6ep > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Sent using SMTP. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Gabriel Zeifman > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> How unfortunate that our cash strapped, technology oriented > >>> >>>>> organization is having to waste so much money to print and mail > two > >>> >>>>> sets of paper ballots to each and every member. Seems to me that > >>> >>>>> electronic voting would save the organization money, make voting > >>> >>>>> more secure and efficient, prevent mishaps such as this, and > prevent > >>> >>>>> some members from not receiving ballots like last year. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> 73, > >>> >>>>> Gabe > >>> >>>>> AL6D/VE6NJH > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Clayton Coleman W5PFG > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to > >>> >>>>>> AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on > July > >>> >>>>>> 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots > >>> >>>>>> received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on > >>> >>>>>> yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > >>> >>>>>> Tom Clark, K3IO > >>> >>>>>> Mark Hammond, N8MH > >>> >>>>>> Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > >>> >>>>>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO > >>> >>>>>> Peter Portanova, W2JV > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> The Directors positions will go to the three candidates > receiving > >>> >>>>>> the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two > >>> >>>>>> alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of > >>> >> votes received. > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> 73, > >>> >>>>>> Clayton > >>> >>>>>> W5PFG > >>> >>>>>> AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Hammond [N8MH] From milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 17:20:36 2018 From: milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com (Milen KG2C) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:20:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] New Software Tool for Verifying If Roving Locations Are Within Your VUCC Circle In-Reply-To: <2014076896.4514413.1531615519674@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2014076896.4514413.1531615519674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2014076896.4514413.1531615519674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ron, That's a nice tool but it is a pity that it requires people to have Python installed, as this is beyond what most people do with their computers. I decided to make it more accessible by writing something similar in Python that runs in Windows, has a decent-enough GUI. It requires only that the files be extracted using a self-extracting archive and then running the kg2c_vucc.exe application. I've compiled it using 64bit Windows 10, so it won't work for 32bit Windows operating systems. If there's any interest I can see about compiling it for 32bit Windows. It can be downloaded from https://goo.gl/dc7948 Btw I used your haversine(lat1, lon1, lat2, lon2) function so distance calculations will be the same. Best wishes, Milen KG2C On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Ron Bondy via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I have written a software tool in Python for determining if a set of local > rover locations (specified in decimal degrees latitude and longitude) are > all within 200km of each other. I used this for myself to determine which > of my local roving locations were within my 200km VUCC circle. > The script uses the Haversine method for determining the distance between > two locations on the earths surface, assuming the earth has a constant > radius. References are given in the readme.txt file provided below in the > DropBox folder. > It's a good planning tool too; if I'm going to go roving to a new local > spot then I'd prefer to rove to a location within my VUCC circle so my > contacts count toward my VUCC award totals. > This is a Python script that is run from the command line, so I'm sorry > but there is no user interface. If you're not sure what the command line > is and you've never heard of the Python programming language this software > tool is probably not for you. > You can download the files here: > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xkvbaj41060h4vy/AAC0n_D3uDAjEgWwcwxxxjnba?dl=0 > > The DropBox folder contains the Python script, along with > ad0dx_vucc_circle.txt, the file with my roving locations to give you an > example of how to use the script. > A readme.txt file is provided to give some more background and also a > results file with the results from using the script on my roving locations > file. You could examine the results file to determine if you think this > Python script might be useful to you. > Another great application is to put all your local WalMart's in the file > to confirm if those WMPLOTA locations count toward your VUCC totals. > Currently only latitude and longitude in decimal degrees are supported for > locations. > I haven't actually found the center of my own VUCC cirle at this point, > but the tool has let me confirm and investigate all the locations I use for > roving. It turns out for me that the DM68 69 78 79 four corner grid is in > my circle as well as the location I operate from on the DM 88 89 grid > line. My qth is in DM78 and is close to 39N latitude so DM79 is just a few > miles north of me. The tool has shown me that I can also include DM77 in > my VUCC circle, so that gives me a lot of options for roaming and counting > grids towards my VUCC award. > If you have any questions or comments please contact me off list at ad0dx > at yahoo dot com. > Thanks and 73's, > Ron, ad0dx > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From mccardelm at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 17:49:58 2018 From: mccardelm at gmail.com (E.Mike McCardel) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:49:58 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: <853e9218822a4062a27d4c7f68d6bcde@tekterrain.com> References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <853e9218822a4062a27d4c7f68d6bcde@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: <098508D8-EC44-4BA9-9888-8D63B75159A6@gmail.com> I believe that presenting an online method of printing a new ballot could easily result in stuffing the ballot box. Under the circumstances a new ballot is really the only way to maintain any control. Too bad the inconvenience, too bad the cost. I applaud the Directors for taking prompt action. EMike EMike McCardel, AA8EM Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2018, at 2:52 AM, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] wrote: > > Hmmm. Why would a completely separate mailing, at additional production and mailing cost, be necessary to correct mis-printed ballots? > > Conventionally If there are known errors (errata) of a publication, often the authors issue a notice and direct readers to download/print out the notice for their own use. Later those edits/changes are inserted in the next edition. > > As long as the notice is properly authorized, widely distributed (web, e-mail should be fine - after all that is how AMSAT membership is managed), then anyone who wants to vote, only needs to follow the errata instructions (e.g., "print out the new ballot form", "modify line 1: omit 'xxx' and insert 'yyy') on the ballot they have received, and then they can go ahead and walk to the post office, put on a stamp and post it. That would be the equivalent of writing in candidates if a voting system allows it, and their names are not on the official ballot for some reason votes. > > I vote in IEEE and AIAA groups, so what would be the advantage (other than following SOP another expensive paper ballot) - that doesn't preclude the risk of making another mistake in preparing the ballot. What would happen if there is another mistake? Perhaps a THIRD ballot then? > > Seriously, a special resolution by AMSAT BOD at any meeting could solve this issue. Disclaimer: I haven't read the by-laws but they can't possibly be detailed enough to instruct a board how to handle bungled ballot cards (I hope) in such a rigid manner. > > Apologies if I am wrong on the mechanism of votes. > > 73 de N3RDX > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clayton Coleman W5PFG > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:33 PM > To: AMSAT-BB > Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots > > Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT-NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. > > New ballots, labeled ?CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018? and printed on yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. > > Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: > Tom Clark, K3IO > Mark Hammond, N8MH > Scott Harvey, KA7FVV > Bruce Paige, KK5DO > Peter Portanova, W2JV > > The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. > > 73, > Clayton > W5PFG > AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way using any information contained within this communication. If you have received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From farhanbox at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 18:43:57 2018 From: farhanbox at gmail.com (Ashhar Farhan) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 00:13:57 +0530 Subject: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter Message-ID: I am brewing a satellite receiver. The 67 Hz CTCSS tone is quite annoying. Is there anyway to easily filter it out? - f From zmetzing at pobox.com Wed Jul 18 18:54:58 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 13:54:58 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <543c44b4-7270-34d8-9cd9-760a66c0462c@pobox.com> On 07/18/18 13:43, Ashhar Farhan wrote: > I am brewing a satellite receiver. The 67 Hz CTCSS tone is quite annoying. > Is there anyway to easily filter it out? How about a simple high-pass filter? https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_3.html --- Zach N0ZGO From gzook at yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 19:15:08 2018 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 19:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots In-Reply-To: References: <6c0d8852-e482-5ae1-22a8-322a0233cb3d@w5pfg.us> <749625D6-27C0-429C-9167-472DA7753C34@fortconsulting.org> <85939A4D-F4D7-4E9D-A84F-5BF757E60109@gmail.com> <2E836C25-6D50-4AB4-BAE5-2CA3570ACF31@gmail.com> <1DCFFF06-D255-45DD-8DBA-BA64BE6FEFAC@fortconsulting.org> Message-ID: <255974422.6714488.1531941308415@mail.yahoo.com> The fact that not everyone has E-Mail or access to a computer necessitates having a mail-in alternative to on-line voting.? It would not be that hard to amend the by-laws to allow either method of voting. Having a serial number on the mailing label of the newsletter allows either method to be used without the expense of mailing ballots and the manpower to tabulate the paper ballots.? Yes, there will still be a relatively few paper type ballots sent in.? However, the small number of those ballots would be easily handled by a single person. All that would be involved is to come up with a computer program that recognizes the serial number and that allows the serial number to be used only 1-time.? I am sure that there are organization members who can write such a program virtually blindfolded and at no cost to AMSAT. I have been a member of AMSAT since the 2nd month of the establishment of the organization and definitely am in favor of things that can reduce the administrative costs of the organization. ?Glen, K9STH? AMSAT 239 / LM063 Website: http://k9sth.net From: Jerry Buxton To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots True, and like it or not, "not everybody has email". From skristof at etczone.com Wed Jul 18 19:32:53 2018 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:32:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] pictures from satellites Message-ID: I'm still having issues downloading images from satellites. It's the same issue whether I'm trying to get photos from wx satellites using WxtoImg or images from the space station using MMSSTV. They all appear to be shredded horizontally. Is the software not getting the synchronization tone? I have noticed lately that the "scope" line on FoxTelem goes flat every once in a while when I'm trying to get telemetry from AO-85 or -92 (which also has been fruitless lately). But the trace on the SDR# waterfall does not disappear at those times. When I posted this problem before, a couple folks suggested turning off anti-virus programs. I tried turning off my AVG during a run and nothing changed. My setup has worked in the past as-is. Was there a Windows 10 update that may be interfering? Does Windows 10 have some inherent anti-virus features that should be turned off? Has anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it? All constructive suggestions will be appreciated. Steve AI9IN From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 20:50:50 2018 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 16:50:50 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] pictures from satellites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9488EE13-A724-4496-928D-18A82E565422@gmail.com> Have you tried running the task manager to see what might be hogging resources when you experience issues? 73, Mike Diehl W8LID > On Jul 18, 2018, at 15:32, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > > I'm still having issues downloading images from satellites. It's the > same issue whether I'm trying to get photos from wx satellites using > WxtoImg or images from the space station using MMSSTV. They all appear > to be shredded horizontally. Is the software not getting the > synchronization tone? > > I have noticed lately that the "scope" line on FoxTelem goes flat every > once in a while when I'm trying to get telemetry from AO-85 or -92 > (which also has been fruitless lately). But the trace on the SDR# > waterfall does not disappear at those times. > > When I posted this problem before, a couple folks suggested turning off > anti-virus programs. I tried turning off my AVG during a run and nothing > changed. > > My setup has worked in the past as-is. Was there a Windows 10 update > that may be interfering? Does Windows 10 have some inherent anti-virus > features that should be turned off? Has anyone else had this problem and > how did you fix it? > > All constructive suggestions will be appreciated. > > Steve AI9IN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From skristof at etczone.com Wed Jul 18 21:25:09 2018 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:25:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] pictures from satellites In-Reply-To: <9488EE13-A724-4496-928D-18A82E565422@gmail.com> References: <9488EE13-A724-4496-928D-18A82E565422@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49b4ad593f8ca7df26610f8e1e1ee236@etczone.com> Yes. There didn't seem to be anything except the VB virtual audio cable, SDR#, and FoxTelem, as best I could tell. On 2018-07-18 16:50, Mike Diehl wrote: > Have you tried running the task manager to see what might be hogging resources when you experience issues? > > 73, > Mike Diehl > W8LID > >> On Jul 18, 2018, at 15:32, skristof at etczone.com wrote: >> >> I'm still having issues downloading images from satellites. It's the >> same issue whether I'm trying to get photos from wx satellites using >> WxtoImg or images from the space station using MMSSTV. They all appear >> to be shredded horizontally. Is the software not getting the >> synchronization tone? >> >> I have noticed lately that the "scope" line on FoxTelem goes flat every >> once in a while when I'm trying to get telemetry from AO-85 or -92 >> (which also has been fruitless lately). But the trace on the SDR# >> waterfall does not disappear at those times. >> >> When I posted this problem before, a couple folks suggested turning off >> anti-virus programs. I tried turning off my AVG during a run and nothing >> changed. >> >> My setup has worked in the past as-is. Was there a Windows 10 update >> that may be interfering? Does Windows 10 have some inherent anti-virus >> features that should be turned off? Has anyone else had this problem and >> how did you fix it? >> >> All constructive suggestions will be appreciated. >> >> Steve AI9IN >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From brennanprice at verizon.net Wed Jul 18 22:23:36 2018 From: brennanprice at verizon.net (Brennan Price) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 22:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Electronic voting (was Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots) References: <1165037184.6838066.1531952617004.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1165037184.6838066.1531952617004@mail.yahoo.com> ARRLtried electronic balloting for Directors and Vice Directors for a three-year cycle not long ago. Physical ballots were mailed only to those members without email addresses on file. Members with emails on file got a link to the contractor's (SBS) online voting site. Voter participation in the few contested ARRL elections during that cycle plummeted, and the cost was pretty much a wash (it costs money to do electronic voting securely). The difficulty is that an email directing voters to a voting site is easily lost in the noise compared to a paper ballot received in the mail. This phenomenon is not uncommon; the same thing happened when the Virginia State Bar implemented online voting around the same time, with the same vendor. ARRL abandoned electronic balloting. VSB has kept it, and has dealt with declined participation. There are merits in both approaches, but the argument that electronic balloting is better and cheaper is fallacious. (Same thing applies to electronic publication as compared to paper--paper ad rates command a premium for a very good reason.) 73 de Brennan N4QX From aj9n at aol.com Thu Jul 19 00:29:33 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 20:29:33 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-19 01:00 UTC Message-ID: <164aff122d5-c91-1f374@webjas-vaa180.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-19 01:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: 7th International Aerospace School. I.N. Sultanova Rep. Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Artemyev Contact is a go for 2018-07-20 20:15 UTC ? Shinoda Elementary School, Izumi City, Japan, direct via 8N3SD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-07-23 09:47:14 UTC 43 deg ? ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA, (CASIS#2), participating school Quest Institute for Quality Education, San Jose, CA, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contract is a go for: Thu 2018-07-26 20:22:10 UTC 48 deg ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 103 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-19 01:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1238. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1186. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-07-17 18:00 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From gzook at yahoo.com Thu Jul 19 00:53:48 2018 From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 00:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Electronic voting (was Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots) In-Reply-To: <1165037184.6838066.1531952617004@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1165037184.6838066.1531952617004.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1165037184.6838066.1531952617004@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1842238846.6885489.1531961628812@mail.yahoo.com> I generally disagree with most of this!? Yes, announcing the election using E-Mail can definitely be problematic.? However, since "hard copy" newsletters are sent out to every AMSAT member, a large announcement, on the front cover, giving the instructions on how to vote either by Internet or by mail, is an effective way to get things going. Not mailing out the ballots definitely saves money in both postage and printing costs.? There is no additional mailing cost since the instructions will be on the front of the newsletter. There could even be a paper ballot on the back cover that could either be torn off or copied for those wishing to use the paper ballot method.? The ballot could then be put in an envelope that is marked just "Ballot" and the serial number and then be put in another envelope for mailing.? This is how mail-in ballots are handled here in Texas.? That method works very well for the main-in ballots for every election. Since most of the functions of AMSAT are handled by volunteers, I am certain that there are members who can definitely come up with a viable, secure, program that will allow Internet voting. As for E-Mail distributed newsletters:? They are definitely much less expensive than hard copy newsletters not only in the printing and mailing arena, but they are also easier to prepare.? Over the decades, I have been the editor and / or publisher of a number of such publications ranging from local groups to national groups.? It is MUCH cheaper, and MUCH easier to do a newsletter that is distributed in PDF format than it is to publish a hard copy newsletter. I do prefer having a hard copy for a number of reasons.? However, unless the organization is flush with cash, distributing the newsletter via E-Mail is MUCH more a financial benefit to that organization. ?Glen, K9STH? AMSAT 239 / LM 0463 Website: http://k9sth.net From: Brennan Price To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:44 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Electronic voting (was Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots) ARRLtried electronic balloting for Directors and Vice Directors for a three-year cycle not long ago. Physical ballots were mailed only to those members without email addresses on file. Members with emails on file got a link to the contractor's (SBS) online voting site. Voter participation in the few contested ARRL elections during that cycle plummeted, and the cost was pretty much a wash (it costs money to do electronic voting securely). The difficulty is that an email directing voters to a voting site is easily lost in the noise compared to a paper ballot received in the mail. This phenomenon is not uncommon; the same thing happened when the Virginia State Bar implemented online voting around the same time, with the same vendor. ARRL abandoned electronic balloting. VSB has kept it, and has dealt with declined participation. There are merits in both approaches, but the argument that electronic balloting is better and cheaper is fallacious. (Same thing applies to electronic publication as compared to paper--paper ad rates command a premium for a very good reason.) 73 de Brennan N4QX From ray.hoad at mypbmail.com Thu Jul 19 03:16:16 2018 From: ray.hoad at mypbmail.com (Ray Hoad) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 22:16:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Surprise - The AMSAT-NA TLE's Are Early This Week Message-ID: <002101d41f0e$db69bc50$923d34f0$@mypbmail.com> Surprise - The AMSAT-NA TLE's are one day early this week (vacation). Ray Hoad WA5QGD AMSAT-NA Orbital Elements Manager From sehaque at tekterrain.com Thu Jul 19 11:19:01 2018 From: sehaque at tekterrain.com (Samudra Haque [TTLLC]) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:19:01 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter In-Reply-To: <543c44b4-7270-34d8-9cd9-760a66c0462c@pobox.com> References: <543c44b4-7270-34d8-9cd9-760a66c0462c@pobox.com> Message-ID: <2e45716520b8460fa547d6a1d690bb58@tekterrain.com> I'm currently wondering if there is a guideline in general to select filter components so that they are realistic / common part values and still get the performance desired? The calculations might result in exact values for C, R, and might not include accommodation for the C* and R* of the PCB traces, or of the associated wiring - what are practical steps to allow for real world filter construction. Also - suddenly I am wondering if I shouldn't be looking for a vendor who supplies/manufacturers pre-designed filter blocks for inclusion in my projects. Mouser? Samudra N3RDX. -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zach Metzinger Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:55 PM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter On 07/18/18 13:43, Ashhar Farhan wrote: > I am brewing a satellite receiver. The 67 Hz CTCSS tone is quite annoying. > Is there anyway to easily filter it out? How about a simple high-pass filter? https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_3.html --- Zach N0ZGO _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! 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From OLDBIKER at sky.com Thu Jul 19 10:41:59 2018 From: OLDBIKER at sky.com (Roger Titmuss) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:41:59 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss Message-ID: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead preamplifier? 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. Many thanks Roger G0AWY 73 From WB4SON at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 14:08:52 2018 From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:08:52 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Message-ID: Hi Roger, Well RG213 isn't your optimal choice of cable. For example it has a loss that is about twice as high as similar sized LMR400, and that really has an impact on 70 cm. At 80 feet you are losing well over half your TX power -- your 30 watts into the coax will turn into about 12 watts at the antenna. At that distance LMR600 is probably worth it. I've used a pair of M2 Eggbeaters since 1998, so they have been up 20 years now. I do use a SSB Electronics mast-mounted preamp on each. My lengths are 50 feet for 70 cm, and 75 feet for 2 meters. I run 50 watts. Generally I have no problem making a few contacts each pass. Things work well for about 1/3 of the pass, and fair for another 1/3 of the pass, and not at all for 1/3 of the pass. In other words, you aren't going to be working stations down at the horizon, but you will be working stations when the satellite is closest to you and higher in the sky. In my case I probably didn't need the mast mounted preamp as my cable loss was fairly low. In your case you are losing around 4 dB in your coax (for a mode VU bird). You can probably do without the preamp. 73, Bob, WB4SON On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Roger Titmuss wrote: > Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. > > > > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead > preamplifier? > > > > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? > > > > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > Roger G0AWY > > > > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 14:11:09 2018 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:11:09 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter In-Reply-To: <2e45716520b8460fa547d6a1d690bb58@tekterrain.com> References: <543c44b4-7270-34d8-9cd9-760a66c0462c@pobox.com> <2e45716520b8460fa547d6a1d690bb58@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: It?s a simple high pass audio filter, don?t overthink it. Surely the tolerance values of the components are going to far outweigh any contributions to the circuit from PCB tracings. 73, Mike Diehl W8LID > On Jul 19, 2018, at 07:19, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] wrote: > > I'm currently wondering if there is a guideline in general to select filter components so that they are realistic / common part values and still get the performance desired? The calculations might result in exact values for C, R, and might not include accommodation for the C* and R* of the PCB traces, or of the associated wiring - what are practical steps to allow for real world filter construction. > > Also - suddenly I am wondering if I shouldn't be looking for a vendor who supplies/manufacturers pre-designed filter blocks for inclusion in my projects. Mouser? > > Samudra N3RDX. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zach Metzinger > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:55 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter > >> On 07/18/18 13:43, Ashhar Farhan wrote: >> I am brewing a satellite receiver. The 67 Hz CTCSS tone is quite annoying. >> Is there anyway to easily filter it out? > > How about a simple high-pass filter? > > https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_3.html > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way using any information contained within this communication. If you have received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From seb at wintek.com Thu Jul 19 14:52:58 2018 From: seb at wintek.com (Stephen E. Belter) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 14:52:58 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter In-Reply-To: References: <543c44b4-7270-34d8-9cd9-760a66c0462c@pobox.com> <2e45716520b8460fa547d6a1d690bb58@tekterrain.com> Message-ID: I agree with Mike, this is an audio filter so the RC from PCB traces and other wiring should be ignored. Choose the capacitor(s) to match common values, then select the resistors with 10% or 20% tolerance. You can find common values by checking Mouser or DigiKey. But I do need to ask a question before you build your filter: What satellite are you listening to that transmits 67 Hz? None of the SSB or FM amateur satellites *transmit* 67 Hz. The Fox satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92) transmit Data Under Voice (DUV) which can be annoying depending on the frequency response of your receiver. DUV isn't 67 Hz, but a range of frequencies less than 300 Hertz. Most commercial FM receivers filter out most, if not all of the DUV frequencies which are used for CTCSS. Most SDR receivers allow you to adjust the filtering of the audio so that you can remove the DUV. If you're building an analog receiver, you'll want to be filtering frequencies below 300 Hz, not 67 Hz. 73, Steve N9IP -- Steve Belter, seb at wintek.com ?On 7/19/18, 8:13 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Mike Diehl" wrote: It?s a simple high pass audio filter, don?t overthink it. Surely the tolerance values of the components are going to far outweigh any contributions to the circuit from PCB tracings. 73, Mike Diehl W8LID > On Jul 19, 2018, at 07:19, Samudra Haque [TTLLC] wrote: > > I'm currently wondering if there is a guideline in general to select filter components so that they are realistic / common part values and still get the performance desired? The calculations might result in exact values for C, R, and might not include accommodation for the C* and R* of the PCB traces, or of the associated wiring - what are practical steps to allow for real world filter construction. > > Also - suddenly I am wondering if I shouldn't be looking for a vendor who supplies/manufacturers pre-designed filter blocks for inclusion in my projects. Mouser? > > Samudra N3RDX. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zach Metzinger > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:55 PM > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 67 Hz filter > >> On 07/18/18 13:43, Ashhar Farhan wrote: >> I am brewing a satellite receiver. The 67 Hz CTCSS tone is quite annoying. >> Is there anyway to easily filter it out? > > How about a simple high-pass filter? > > https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_3.html > > --- Zach > N0ZGO > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way using any information contained within this communication. If you have received this communication in error please contact the sender by telephone or by response via mail. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From johnbrier at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 14:53:29 2018 From: johnbrier at gmail.com (John Brier) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:53:29 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Message-ID: You should read yesterday's thread on egg beaters on the qrz.com forums. One response said that today's birds don't have strong enough downlinks to work the birds well using egg beaters. They will probably work for high elevation passes but they aren't recommended today in general. Seems like good info to me. Preamps seem like an important component to use with egg beaters. Most folks using yagis use them too so they would be even more important with egg beaters. https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/egg-beater-antenna-question.620911/ 73, John Brier KG4AKV On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 07:17 Roger Titmuss wrote: > Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. > > > > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead > preamplifier? > > > > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? > > > > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > Roger G0AWY > > > > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From tom at m0lte.uk Thu Jul 19 15:00:23 2018 From: tom at m0lte.uk (Tom M0LTE) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 15:00:23 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Message-ID: <01020164b30e6912-791b5ea3-0595-4824-b67e-41b8f9e84950-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com> Damn, those eggbeaters are expensive! On 19 Jul 2018, 14:17 +0100, Roger Titmuss , wrote: > Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. > > > > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead > preamplifier? > > > > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? > > > > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > Roger G0AWY > > > > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jul 19 15:50:25 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:50:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Misassembled May/June Journal In-Reply-To: <81E587B6-E903-452F-9065-EAC1E92F3664@cox.net> References: <81E587B6-E903-452F-9065-EAC1E92F3664@cox.net> Message-ID: Sorry for the inconvenience. Please call Martha and she will send a replacement copy. As an alternative to waiting for a replacement, I have posted the issue on the AMSAT website. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:32 PM, Dino Papas wrote: > Glenn - several of us received faulty copies, this came up here on the reflector a couple of weeks ago?Martha told me that she would send a replacement but haven?t received it yet?send her a note or call and request a replacement. > > 73 - Dino KL0S > >> On Jul 17, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: >> >> In looking at my May/June AMSAT Journal, I find mine has pages missing and others duplicated and out of order and others missing. >> Is mine the only one like this, or is this a batch problem? >> >> Thanks >> 73 >> Glenn >> WB4UIV > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From n8hm at arrl.net Thu Jul 19 15:50:42 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:50:42 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Misassembled May/June Journal In-Reply-To: References: <81E587B6-E903-452F-9065-EAC1E92F3664@cox.net> Message-ID: Sorry, forgot to add the link. https://www.amsat.org/may-june-amsat-journal-misprint/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Sorry for the inconvenience. Please call Martha and she will send a > replacement copy. > > As an alternative to waiting for a replacement, I have posted the > issue on the AMSAT website. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:32 PM, Dino Papas wrote: >> Glenn - several of us received faulty copies, this came up here on the reflector a couple of weeks ago?Martha told me that she would send a replacement but haven?t received it yet?send her a note or call and request a replacement. >> >> 73 - Dino KL0S >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: >>> >>> In looking at my May/June AMSAT Journal, I find mine has pages missing and others duplicated and out of order and others missing. >>> Is mine the only one like this, or is this a batch problem? >>> >>> Thanks >>> 73 >>> Glenn >>> WB4UIV >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From rs2atmink at yahoo.com Thu Jul 19 15:59:48 2018 From: rs2atmink at yahoo.com (Robert Switzer) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 15:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Misassembled May/June Journal In-Reply-To: References: <81E587B6-E903-452F-9065-EAC1E92F3664@cox.net> Message-ID: <1725798146.873035.1532015988410@mail.yahoo.com> ok, even in the PDF, what's up with the mangled apogee view on the end of page 3, top of page 4? Rob KA2CZU On Thursday, July 19, 2018, 11:52:28 AM EDT, Paul Stoetzer wrote: Sorry, forgot to add the link. https://www.amsat.org/may-june-amsat-journal-misprint/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > Sorry for the inconvenience. Please call Martha and she will send a > replacement copy. > > As an alternative to waiting for a replacement, I have posted the > issue on the AMSAT website. > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:32 PM, Dino Papas wrote: >> Glenn - several of us received faulty copies, this came up here on the reflector a couple of weeks ago?Martha told me that she would send a replacement but haven?t received it yet?send her a note or call and request a replacement. >> >> 73 - Dino KL0S >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: >>> >>> In looking at my May/June AMSAT Journal, I find mine has pages missing and others duplicated and out of order and others missing. >>> Is mine the only one like this, or is this a batch problem? >>> >>> Thanks >>> 73 >>> Glenn >>> WB4UIV >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From martha at amsat.org Thu Jul 19 16:09:22 2018 From: martha at amsat.org (Martha) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 12:09:22 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Misassembled May/June Journal In-Reply-To: <1725798146.873035.1532015988410@mail.yahoo.com> References: <81E587B6-E903-452F-9065-EAC1E92F3664@cox.net> <1725798146.873035.1532015988410@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Replacement copies were mailed today. Robert, if you send me your address, I will mail a replacement. 73- Martha On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb at amsat.org> wrote: > ok, even in the PDF, what's up with the mangled apogee view on the end of > page 3, top of page 4? > Rob KA2CZU > > On Thursday, July 19, 2018, 11:52:28 AM EDT, Paul Stoetzer < > n8hm at arrl.net> wrote: > > Sorry, forgot to add the link. > > https://www.amsat.org/may-june-amsat-journal-misprint/ > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote: > > Sorry for the inconvenience. Please call Martha and she will send a > > replacement copy. > > > > As an alternative to waiting for a replacement, I have posted the > > issue on the AMSAT website. > > > > 73, > > > > Paul, N8HM > > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:32 PM, Dino Papas wrote: > >> Glenn - several of us received faulty copies, this came up here on the > reflector a couple of weeks ago?Martha told me that she would send a > replacement but haven?t received it yet?send her a note or call and request > a replacement. > >> > >> 73 - Dino KL0S > >> > >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV < > glennmaillist at bellsouth.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> In looking at my May/June AMSAT Journal, I find mine has pages missing > and others duplicated and out of order and others missing. > >>> Is mine the only one like this, or is this a batch problem? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> 73 > >>> Glenn > >>> WB4UIV > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- 73- Martha From jim at k6ccc.org Thu Jul 19 16:12:17 2018 From: jim at k6ccc.org (jim at k6ccc.org) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 09:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Message-ID: <1532016737.743710819@apps.rackspace.com> Roger asked: > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead preamplifier? OK, here is my opinion. Eggbeaters - or any other omni type antenna are only slightly above worthless. Uplink is not really a problem as you can always add power to make up for a poor antenna, but downlink IS a problem because once signal is lost, you can't make it back up. So yes, unless you have an extremely short coax run, I highly recommend a pre-amp at the antenna. As has been commented many times on the BB, the vast majority of amateur satellite operation is weak signal. Too often new operators try to treat the FM satellites just like a repeater. That's fine if your repeater is 2,000 miles away and only transmitting a quarter watt. It's NOT! It is a weak signal. For people operating terrestrial weak signal, NO ONE would consider using a quarter wave ground plane antenna, but for some reason, so many people try to do essentially just that for satellite. It does not work well. > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? For the LEO satellites, that is plenty (or more than plenty in many cases). > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. As someone else already pointed out, that is not overly good coax, so that makes a good low noise pre-amp AT the antenna even more important. Disclaimer: Essentially all of my satellite operation has been voice - either FM or preferably SSB on the linear birds. I have no experience with some of the newer "weak signal" digital modes that can dig signals out that are at or below the noise floor. I have operated as a telemetry downlink station for the first USNA satellite which was using one of several omni designs, and worked like crap. For the record, I also operated some SSTV and Hellschreiber (Feld Hell) via AO-40 during it's short life :( At home I ran an AO-10 class antenna system: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/SatAnt1.html http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/S-band1.html Even mobile (special event) I ran yagis and El/Az rotors in my truck: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/Photo/Pics/MobileSat2.html 73 ----- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org From zmetzing at pobox.com Thu Jul 19 16:24:48 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:24:48 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <1532016737.743710819@apps.rackspace.com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> <1532016737.743710819@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: <0078d9b8-7461-bed9-f142-a737a3be9f89@pobox.com> On 07/19/18 11:12, jim at k6ccc.org wrote: > So yes, unless you have an extremely short coax run, I highly recommend a pre-amp at the antenna. Agreed! You can even build one of your own, if you're careful not to transmit through it. Zach Metzinger wrote: > If you're looking for a shoestring-budget LNA for 2m, the U310 JFET > preamp has been a good performer for me. > > http://www.ham-radio.com/n6ca/50MHz/50appnotes/U310.html > > I've constructed one in a spare project box, and the gain (12dB) is > right on the predicted value. I have not verified the NF, but it is > claimed to be near 1.0dB. I built in in one evening, with some extra > evenings diagnosing a capacitor issue. Use a multi-turn piston trimmer > for the 1-10pF drain capacitor, as the output tuning is very sharp. > > I've changed the layout a bit, but here's an early picture of the unit: > > http://www.n0zgo.net/lna/ > > The air-core inductors are not difficult to wind on a 1/4" drill bit. > > Not as fancy as a GaAsFET or pHEMT device, but it works just fine to > hear AO-85 and AO-7 with a non-ideal satellite antenna (folded > horizontal dipole) at 10 degrees above the horizon. On the subject of rotators, don't discount the SatNOGS rotator. I've built a version 2 with a total expenditure of < $100. It will not stand up to the elements, but I have plans to mount it in the attic. --- Zach N0ZGO From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 16:26:38 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:26:38 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Message-ID: <90173600-F574-44A1-942F-041215E38106@gmail.com> Roger, Just to share experience, in spite none with the M2 egg beaters. 1) 3B8FA and myself did many QSO with simple antenna such as egg beaters on many birds or other type of omni circular polarization antenna. We started with these and then moved to directional antennas which surely have many advantages but I suggest that you start with home brew antenna instead of buying expensive omni one as same may be build at home for a few $ with material available in any hardware store, more plenty of designs available on the net. 2) Contacts have been made with even verticals both sides here. 2) On VHF RX preamplifiers are not really needed (even with omni?s) for many birds, such as AO-91, AO-92, XW-2x series, CAS 4B. TX, 30W is more than enough for the birds mentioned in spite of you long coax. I had 30m RG213 with omni's which worked ok for many birds. 3) On UHF RX, you will probably need a preamp as your feeder quite long, but it may work out with FO-29 which is generally quite strong. In a nutshell, don?t invest much money for omni antenna as after a while, if you get the virus, you will surely want to move to directional ones, keep the $ for these as the setup is not cheap. Learn the basic with cheap home brew antennas first that decide of what you need for the next frontier and save you $ for same. Hope it helps. Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Roger Titmuss wrote: > > Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. > > > > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead > preamplifier? > > > > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? > > > > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > Roger G0AWY > > > > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From shakeelj2k at yahoo.com Thu Jul 19 16:54:20 2018 From: shakeelj2k at yahoo.com (shakeel saad) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 9100 compatible s-band receive Message-ID: <104B903437014B17.17568586-481b-4da8-8062-19830e2c91b2@mail.outlook.com> Hi all I am looking for icom 9100 compatible s band receiver which can be used with icom 9100 transceiver. Anyone who knows I shall be grateful for this help please. Regards Shakeel Institute of space technology lahore Get Outlook for Android From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 17:41:16 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 21:41:16 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 1KUNS-PF Message-ID: Dear All, I have been advised this morning that 1KUNS-PF is not transmitting images (confirmed from telemetry received this side) over Kenya and that the camera is off except when over Europe controlled by the Italian Ground Station.. The Kenyan Ground Station promised to inform me when it will be available in the region, some of us here are eager to received the pictures (me surely). Will keep you informed of any info I may received. Jean Marc (3B8DU) From k6fw1 at verizon.net Thu Jul 19 18:03:24 2018 From: k6fw1 at verizon.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:03:24 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 9100 compatible s-band receive In-Reply-To: <104B903437014B17.17568586-481b-4da8-8062-19830e2c91b2@mail.outlook.com> References: <104B903437014B17.17568586-481b-4da8-8062-19830e2c91b2@mail.outlook.com> Message-ID: I have an SSB Electronics S-Band Converter UEK-2000 that has an IF out.? I don't believe that this unit is available anymore.? My unit was purchased in 1994, but has never been put into service so can't comment as to the performance. 73, Frank K6FW On 7/19/18 9:54 AM, shakeel saad via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Hi all > > > > > I am looking for icom 9100 compatible s band receiver which can be used with icom 9100 transceiver. Anyone who knows I shall be grateful for this help please. > > > > > Regards > > > Shakeel > > > Institute of space technology lahore > > > > > Get Outlook for Android > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From zmetzing at pobox.com Thu Jul 19 18:48:46 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:48:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone talked with G6LVB recently? Message-ID: <00f86532-57b5-1fe7-f0e2-64efb15b740d@pobox.com> Hello, A few years ago, I identified a bug in the HID implementation on the FCDP+: http://www.funcubedongle.com/?page_id=1073#comment-72288 I'd like to work with Howard to fix this, as it causes lock-ups on both macOS and FreeBSD when using the FCDP+ and gqrx. (Short summary: Reading a HID report endpoint should always return the most current report, even if that contains no data. This is why using HID as a general-purpose data transfer mechanism is A Bad Thing. Shame on Microsoft for encouraging people to use it that way.) Thanks, --- Zach N0ZGO From kdcarlso at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 17:17:04 2018 From: kdcarlso at gmail.com (Dave .) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:17:04 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Message-ID: While I'm still new to the sats I have been doing VHF/UHF weak signal work since the 80's and I've always preferred to spend the money on feedline rather than pre-amps. Given that pre-amps amplify the rx noise and signal you really don't improve signal to noise unless the noise figure of the pre-amp is better than your receiver. Usually your just amplifying the signal to make up for the loss that's going to happen as the signal makes it's way down the coax. You also add complexity when you want to TX on the antenna since you will need to add a t/r relay at the antenna. In addition, you are still losing tx power with the higher loss cable so depending on your ERP goal you may need an amplifier, generally not an issue with the LEO's. LMR-600 or hardline is my feedline of choice for 2m and up. I'm not suggesting that pre-amps can't or shouldn't be used but usually aren't needed if good low loss feedline is used to begin with. Dave N2OA On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:17 AM Roger Titmuss wrote: > Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. > > > > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead > preamplifier? > > > > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? > > > > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > Roger G0AWY > > > > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From kb2mjeff at att.net Thu Jul 19 19:18:15 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 15:18:15 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 PAT V panadapter board Message-ID: <3D15D5ACA4BB40FB9F67ACE6B7798618@kb2m4PC> I posted this to the 9100 group, and also here, in case anyone might be interested in this. What SDR S/W is anyone using with their SDRPlay for sat?s? I?m trying to learn SDR-Console and the learning curve is very steep. I vaguely remember a few years ago getting it working with some other S/W.... I finished my PAT V install on my 9100 this morning. I decided to do the HF tap also, but not the 23cm. It?s went well, worse part was doing the HF tap, I managed to move the top board out of the way without completely un plugging, then removing the metal shield completely to get to the HF tap point on the BPF board. Everything is working ok, only issue?s are I haven?t figured out yet how to get the levels up to allow a better waterfall display. I?m using SDR-Console. I also have to figure out how to get the display to follow the 9100. Just started using SDR-Console and the learning curve is very steep. What I don?t understand is there is no frequency offset needed to use the various taps, and also the bandwidth on HF is very narrow? Any ideas? Also If anyone want's some pictures of my install I will gladly send them along. A big thanks to Dave KD2C for making this available... 73 Jeff kb2m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From zmetzing at pobox.com Thu Jul 19 19:22:25 2018 From: zmetzing at pobox.com (Zach Metzinger) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 14:22:25 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Message-ID: On 07/19/18 12:17, Dave . wrote: > While I'm still new to the sats I have been doing VHF/UHF weak signal work > since the 80's and I've always preferred to spend the money on feedline > rather than pre-amps. Given that pre-amps amplify the rx noise and signal > you really don't improve signal to noise unless the noise figure of the > pre-amp is better than your receiver. Usually your just amplifying the > signal to make up for the loss that's going to happen as the signal makes > it's way down the coax. Hello Dave, With respect, your understanding of the problem is quite incorrect. You should definitely "set" the noise figure of your receive system as early as possible with a LNA. Any decent LNA will have a noise figure far lower than your receiver, not to mention to the coax attenuation adding _directly_ to the NF of your system. I used the data here: http://www.df9ic.de/tech/trxtest/trxtest.html Let's pick the IC910H, with a 3.7dB NF. Now, add 100' of LMR400 for a loss of 1.5dB at 2m. You end up with a NF of 5.2dB. Next, let's try a LNA before that coax with a measly 1dB NF and 15dB of gain: NF of 1.325dB at the receiver. https://www.pasternack.com/t-calculator-noise-figure.aspx This can easily be seen with the Friis noise equation. Here's a good explanation with the (simple) math: https://www.microwaves101.com/encyclopedias/noise-figure I'd invest in a good LNA at the antenna and a PA in the shack before I'd ever think about upgrading my coax. --- Zach N0ZGO From ingejack at cox.net Thu Jul 19 19:51:03 2018 From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 15:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotator display needle problem Message-ID: <350442781.590694.1532029864019@myemail.cox.net> I recently picked up a Emotator EV700X elevation rotor.. Everything works fine, the rotor rotates on command via the control box,.. All lights work . There is one major problem,, The indicator needle does not move although the rotator works. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem could be ?? I don't believe this EMotator is being produced any longer. The rotatpr itself is built like a tank and works great. The shaft for the needle indicator is not turning at all .. Thanks for any help... JACK KC7MG From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 19 20:11:21 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 20:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> Message-ID: <1001763069.15122.1532031081573@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Dave, You said everything I have learned and observed up until now, but please allow me to add one complication to it - FM discriminators (aka de-modulators) cannot handle very low signals well, for example, the downlinks of older lower power birds.? I observe this when I switch between a vertical and a Yagi, the extra signal strength from even a short 3 element Yagi keeps the FM discriminator very happy.? I find this issue less noticeable in SSB modes and adding a preamp is almost as good as turning up the volume control at the radio.? 73! Umesh k6vug On Thursday, July 19, 2018, 12:07:26 PM PDT, Dave . wrote: While I'm still new to the sats I have been doing VHF/UHF weak signal work since the 80's and I've always preferred to spend the money on feedline rather than pre-amps. Given that pre-amps amplify the rx noise and signal you really don't improve signal to noise unless the noise figure of the pre-amp is better than your receiver. Usually your just amplifying the signal to make up for the loss that's going to happen as the signal makes it's way down the coax. You also add complexity when you want to TX on the antenna since you will need to add a t/r relay at the antenna. In addition, you are still losing tx power with the higher loss cable so depending on your ERP goal you may need an amplifier, generally not an issue with the LEO's. LMR-600 or hardline is my feedline of choice for 2m and up. I'm not suggesting that pre-amps can't or shouldn't be used but usually aren't needed if good low loss feedline is used to begin with. Dave N2OA On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:17 AM Roger Titmuss wrote: > Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. > > > > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead > preamplifier? > > > > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? > > > > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > Roger G0AWY > > > > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From marklhammond at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 22:09:25 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:09:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 PAT V panadapter board In-Reply-To: <3D15D5ACA4BB40FB9F67ACE6B7798618@kb2m4PC> References: <3D15D5ACA4BB40FB9F67ACE6B7798618@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, pictures please!! My board is in route. May be a while until I can install but hope for successes, too. I plan to use either and Airspy or Airpsy mini and SDR# then use the SatPC32 plugin so it tracks on frequency with the 9100. Think that?ll work as I imagine it. Alan WA4SCA pointed out the board to me. Initially I struggled with how this is different since it?s an RF tap and not the more common IF tap approach. What bandwidth do you see in HF? I forget what the RF tap frequency is. Maybe that?s a clue. But I figured it would be wide-ish. I see your point about maybe not tapping 1.2 GHz; no local repeaters here so used for sat uplinks only. 73, Mark N8MH On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM wrote: > I posted this to the 9100 group, and also here, in case anyone might be > interested in this. What SDR S/W is anyone using with their SDRPlay for > sat?s? I?m trying to learn SDR-Console and the learning curve is very > steep. I vaguely remember a few years ago getting it working with some > other S/W.... > > > I finished my PAT V install on my 9100 this morning. I decided to do the > HF tap also, but not the 23cm. It?s went well, worse part was doing the HF > tap, I managed to move the top board out of the way without completely un > plugging, then removing the metal shield completely to get to the HF tap > point on the BPF board. Everything is working ok, only issue?s are I > haven?t figured out yet how to get the levels up to allow a better > waterfall display. I?m using SDR-Console. I also have to figure out how to > get the display to follow the 9100. Just started using SDR-Console and the > learning curve is very steep. What I don?t understand is there is no > frequency offset needed to use the various taps, and also the bandwidth on > HF is very narrow? Any ideas? Also If anyone want's some pictures of my > install I will gladly send them along. > > A big thanks to Dave KD2C for making this available... > > 73 Jeff kb2m > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From scott23192 at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 22:44:59 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:44:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 PAT V panadapter board In-Reply-To: <3D15D5ACA4BB40FB9F67ACE6B7798618@kb2m4PC> References: <3D15D5ACA4BB40FB9F67ACE6B7798618@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: >>> What SDR S/W is anyone using with their SDRPlay for sat?s? Hi Jeff! I use HDSDR and it works very well for me. I was only in receive mode for a long time learning how to decode various types of satellite telemetry but now I also get on the amateur sats with voice transponders. HDSDR does everything that I need to do with an SDR both for telemetry reception as well as being the downlink "radio" for transponder use. I would imagine the other applications do most if not all of the same things. But, in my case, I just learned how to navigate in HDSDR and preferred it after trying the others. -Scott, K4KDR =========================== On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:18 PM, wrote: > I posted this to the 9100 group, and also here, in case anyone might be > interested in this. What SDR S/W is anyone using with their SDRPlay for > sat?s? I?m trying to learn SDR-Console and the learning curve is very > steep. I vaguely remember a few years ago getting it working with some > other S/W.... > > > I finished my PAT V install on my 9100 this morning. I decided to do the > HF tap also, but not the 23cm. It?s went well, worse part was doing the HF > tap, I managed to move the top board out of the way without completely un > plugging, then removing the metal shield completely to get to the HF tap > point on the BPF board. Everything is working ok, only issue?s are I > haven?t figured out yet how to get the levels up to allow a better > waterfall display. I?m using SDR-Console. I also have to figure out how to > get the display to follow the 9100. Just started using SDR-Console and the > learning curve is very steep. What I don?t understand is there is no > frequency offset needed to use the various taps, and also the bandwidth on > HF is very narrow? Any ideas? Also If anyone want's some pictures of my > install I will gladly send them along. > > A big thanks to Dave KD2C for making this available... > > 73 Jeff kb2m From tjschuessler at verizon.net Fri Jul 20 00:05:27 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (tjschuessler at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:05:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Electronic voting (was Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Message-ID: <007301d41fbd$5def7080$19ce5180$@verizon.net> The society of Broadcast Engineers http://www.sbe.org has been conducting electronic voting for it's officers and board members for several years now. Please contact John Poray, SBE executive Director or James Leifer, elected President to see how SBE does it and how effective it has bee. Email addresses for these folks can be found in the "About Us" pages. Tom Schuessler, N5HYP EM12ms Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 22:23:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Brennan Price To: "mailto:amsat-bb at amsat.org" Subject: [amsat-bb] Electronic voting (was Re: 2018 Corrected AMSAT Board of Directors Ballots) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ARRLtried electronic balloting for Directors and Vice Directors for a three-year cycle not long ago. Physical ballots were mailed only to those members without email addresses on file. Members with emails on file got a link to the contractor's (SBS) online voting site. Voter participation in the few contested ARRL elections during that cycle plummeted, and the cost was pretty much a wash (it costs money to do electronic voting securely). The difficulty is that an email directing voters to a voting site is easily lost in the noise compared to a paper ballot received in the mail. This phenomenon is not uncommon; the same thing happened when the Virginia State Bar implemented online voting around the same time, with the same vendor. ARRL abandoned electronic balloting. VSB has kept it, and has dealt with declined participation. There are merits in both approaches, but the argument that electronic balloting is better and cheaper is fallacious. (Same thing applies to electronic publication as compared to paper--paper ad rates command a premium for a very good reason.) 73 de Brennan N4QX ------------------------------ From ks1g04 at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 01:26:24 2018 From: ks1g04 at gmail.com (Stephan Greene) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 21:26:24 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kansas City Tuner/Tracker Board Message-ID: Cleaning out shack and found a Kansas City Tracker/Tuner board and 3.5" floppy with software. Board stencil reads "LLG02 Rev D" and has "6912" (a serial number?) handwritten on the solder side. Parallel port interface and fits in one of the old full height PC slots (16 bit?). No idea if it works. No floppy drives so I can't check if the disk is readable. I think I bought this used in early-mid 1990s. In excellent cosmetic condition (kept in a static bag in a box in climate-controlled shack for the past 2 decades+!). Photos of board on request. Will ship to anyone who'll pay the postage. (USPS domestic Priority Mail small flat rate box is $7.20). Please contact direct ks1g at amsat.org. 73 Steve KS1G From kk5do at arrl.net Fri Jul 20 02:06:10 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 21:06:10 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Making your reservation at the Marriott for the AMSAT Symposium Message-ID: <7b2f16e0-bce9-1829-a7c2-a058b20323c7@arrl.net> There are a few quirks with the site. However, I have found a work around that will satisfy everyone. You have the option of one King Bed or two Double Beds. You can choose how many adults and children. Just not off the first linked page. Please follow these tips to make it work right for your needs. I also added these instructions on the amsat.org Symposium page. 73...bruce Instructions for booking your room. Firefox blocked several of the features on this page. Try Internet Explorer or Edge, they worked fine. First, click on the link or copy/paste. You will be presented with one option... a King Bed with one person. Next, choose the dates for your stay. After that, click on Check Availability. This will allow you to choose either one King bed or two Double beds. After choosing the beds, click on Edit that appears under your check in and out dates and below the number of rooms and guests. You can change the number of adults and children in the room and make any other changes you need. -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018 ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat From biff at petittworrell.com Fri Jul 20 01:33:41 2018 From: biff at petittworrell.com (Biff Craine) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 01:33:41 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Kansas City Tuner/Tracker Board In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would be glad to senbd you $10 via PayPal. Just getting nto satellites and need something like this. If OK send you PayPal address. Thanks Biff K4LAW -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Stephan Greene Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:26 PM To: Amsat-bb Subject: [amsat-bb] Kansas City Tuner/Tracker Board Cleaning out shack and found a Kansas City Tracker/Tuner board and 3.5" floppy with software. Board stencil reads "LLG02 Rev D" and has "6912" (a serial number?) handwritten on the solder side. Parallel port interface and fits in one of the old full height PC slots (16 bit?). No idea if it works. No floppy drives so I can't check if the disk is readable. I think I bought this used in early-mid 1990s. In excellent cosmetic condition (kept in a static bag in a box in climate-controlled shack for the past 2 decades+!). Photos of board on request. Will ship to anyone who'll pay the postage. (USPS domestic Priority Mail small flat rate box is $7.20). Please contact direct ks1g at amsat.org. 73 Steve KS1G _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From tjschuessler at verizon.net Fri Jul 20 12:51:51 2018 From: tjschuessler at verizon.net (Tom Schuessler) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 07:51:51 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] "Moon Day" satellite passes Saturday 7/21 Message-ID: <001001d42028$6e56ccf0$4b0466d0$@verizon.net> AMSAT Will be represented at a large space themed STEM event at the Frontiers of flight museum in Dallas this coming Saturday. "Moon Day" will feature astronomy and space themed exhibits from many organizations from our area here in North Texas. Special speaker will be NASA Astronaut Douglas Wheelock, KF5BOC most recently on ISS Expedition 24. https://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day/ Keith Pugh, W5IU, Mac Cody, AE5PH, Jay Cox, KG5BZW and myself, N5HYP will anchor the AMSAT presence at the event from 10-4P CDT We will have an opportunity to talk about amateur radio and especially amateur satellites to upwards of 1500 families and young people from all over. Most all of them will be non-hams. We will be doing contacts on all the FM satellites between 10AM and 4PM CDT using a shared call sign, W5FC, thanks to the Dallas Amateur Radio Club, our neighbors in the indoor exhibit area. Thanks also to Joe Spier, AMSAT president for loaning the Fox satellite mock up for display. It WILL be hot with a projected Dallas record high of 110 degrees so we won't be outside for long each pass but if you do hear W5FC from EM12 Moon Day, give us a shout please. I am sure Patrick Stoddard has done hotter passes, but this should be close. 73 and see you on the birds tomorrow. Tom, N5HYP From w5iu at swbell.net Fri Jul 20 13:30:34 2018 From: w5iu at swbell.net (Keith Pugh) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:30:34 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reservations at AMSAT Symposium Message-ID: <002701d4202d$d70cbb60$85263220$@swbell.net> I now have reservations at the Marriott in Huntsville, AL, but I did encounter one difficulty. I wanted to stay on one day after the AMSAT Room Block expired (5 November). The on-line sign up would not let me do that. I called the Hotel and was able to extend my stay but I had to do it at normal Hotel rates beyond the AMSAT Block that expired on the 4th. I was able to negotiate a reduced rate but not as good as the AMSAT Block rate for this additional day. 73 - Keith, W5IU From kb2mjeff at att.net Fri Jul 20 13:34:20 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 09:34:20 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 PAT V panadapter board In-Reply-To: References: <3D15D5ACA4BB40FB9F67ACE6B7798618@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: <72D7B063084F4B369224BE595BB969F4@kb2m4PC> Been researching all available software and can't find a way to get the SDRPlay (or any SDR) to just simply track the 9100's d/l frequency. That would be ideal. Anyone have any ideas on how this might be done? 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Scott Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 6:44 PM To: Amsat Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 PAT V panadapter board >>> What SDR S/W is anyone using with their SDRPlay for sat?s? Hi Jeff! I use HDSDR and it works very well for me. I was only in receive mode for a long time learning how to decode various types of satellite telemetry but now I also get on the amateur sats with voice transponders. HDSDR does everything that I need to do with an SDR both for telemetry reception as well as being the downlink "radio" for transponder use. I would imagine the other applications do most if not all of the same things. But, in my case, I just learned how to navigate in HDSDR and preferred it after trying the others. -Scott, K4KDR =========================== On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:18 PM, wrote: > I posted this to the 9100 group, and also here, in case anyone might be > interested in this. What SDR S/W is anyone using with their SDRPlay for > sat?s? I?m trying to learn SDR-Console and the learning curve is very > steep. I vaguely remember a few years ago getting it working with some > other S/W.... > > > I finished my PAT V install on my 9100 this morning. I decided to do the > HF tap also, but not the 23cm. It?s went well, worse part was doing the HF > tap, I managed to move the top board out of the way without completely un > plugging, then removing the metal shield completely to get to the HF tap > point on the BPF board. Everything is working ok, only issue?s are I > haven?t figured out yet how to get the levels up to allow a better > waterfall display. I?m using SDR-Console. I also have to figure out how > to > get the display to follow the 9100. Just started using SDR-Console and the > learning curve is very steep. What I don?t understand is there is no > frequency offset needed to use the various taps, and also the bandwidth on > HF is very narrow? Any ideas? Also If anyone want's some pictures of my > install I will gladly send them along. > > A big thanks to Dave KD2C for making this available... > > 73 Jeff kb2m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 20 17:18:38 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:18:38 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Shinoda Elementary School, Izumi City, Japan Message-ID: <705D4240E25C4DDEBEDA3258D98D27CD@DHJ> An International Space Station school contact has been planned with participants at Shinoda Elementary School, Izumi City, Japan on 23 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 09:47 UTC. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be direct between NA1SS and 8N3SD The contact should be audible over Japan and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Shinoda Elementary School is located in the south of Osaka prefecture in Japan. Founded 145 years ago, the school currently has 495 enrolled students for the 2018-2019 academic year. Shinoda Elementary School students are attentive, conscientious learners with a great respect for their peers. The current sixth grade consists of 90 students, 19 of whom were chosen to ask their questions to the astronauts. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. Why did you want to become an astronaut? 2. How many languages do you need to know to become an astronaut? 3. What was the last thing you thought about before getting on the rocket? 4. Why do you change 3 members at a time? 5. What country has the same time as the space station? 6. Is it tiring living in zero gravity? 7. Do you sleep well in space? 8. In space do you feel hot or cold? 9. What do you do if you have a cold or a fever on the space station? 10. What do you do if you get injured on the space station? 11. How do you drink liquids in space? 12. When you are eating, what do you do when your food starts floating away? 13. What is the fastest way to move in space? 14. Are there any dangers living in the space station? 15. Have you ever seen an alien or a UFO? 16. What is your favorite planet? 17. Have you ever seen a black hole? 18. Because there is no gravity in space, do you get dizzy when you walk around? 19. Who is the first person you want to see when you come back to earth? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA, (CASIS#2), participating school Quest Institute for Quality Education, San Jose, CA, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contract is a go for: Thu 2018-07-26 20:22 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From michel-f6glj at orange.fr Fri Jul 20 17:34:59 2018 From: michel-f6glj at orange.fr ( F6GLJ) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:34:59 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Test Message-ID: <002d01d4204f$fc4e4480$f4eacd80$@fr> 73 Qro de Michel F6GLJ https://www.qrz.com/db/F6GLJ From g.shirville at btinternet.com Fri Jul 20 18:12:24 2018 From: g.shirville at btinternet.com (Graham Shirville) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:12:24 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 operations Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Just to confirm that AO73/FUNcube-1 is now in continuous amateur mode with the transponder active for the weekend. 73 Graham G3VZV From sehaque at tekterrain.com Fri Jul 20 19:18:30 2018 From: sehaque at tekterrain.com (Samudra Haque [TTLLC]) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:18:30 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <1001763069.15122.1532031081573@mail.yahoo.com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> , <1001763069.15122.1532031081573@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <788A011634EF9923.ca15cc3c-8866-4c21-a7dd-0492ca0dde8a@mail.outlook.com> In the commercial satcom industry an ODU use is common enough that one might ne able to purchase old ODU (outdoor units) with tight seals and a world of RF components and mixer stages for dirt cheap to several hundred watts and very small sensitivity parts in the receive chains. Of course they are in the wrong band but internal microwave shielded enclosures and bulletproof clean power supplies along with a LNA or LNB might interest some. My wish is to setup a station in DC using this method for ham sats. Has anyone alreday done this ? Hint .. old Anacom units. Plus it can and was designed to be integrated into high wind antenna structures. HPA sections can be uncoupled and replaced (I fixed them in remote sites) and replaced with ham sat stuff. Comments welcome. Samudra N3RDX Sent from a device with a small screen. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:13 PM -0400, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" > wrote: Hi Dave, You said everything I have learned and observed up until now, but please allow me to add one complication to it - FM discriminators (aka de-modulators) cannot handle very low signals well, for example, the downlinks of older lower power birds. I observe this when I switch between a vertical and a Yagi, the extra signal strength from even a short 3 element Yagi keeps the FM discriminator very happy. I find this issue less noticeable in SSB modes and adding a preamp is almost as good as turning up the volume control at the radio. 73! Umesh k6vug On Thursday, July 19, 2018, 12:07:26 PM PDT, Dave . wrote: While I'm still new to the sats I have been doing VHF/UHF weak signal work since the 80's and I've always preferred to spend the money on feedline rather than pre-amps. Given that pre-amps amplify the rx noise and signal you really don't improve signal to noise unless the noise figure of the pre-amp is better than your receiver. Usually your just amplifying the signal to make up for the loss that's going to happen as the signal makes it's way down the coax. You also add complexity when you want to TX on the antenna since you will need to add a t/r relay at the antenna. In addition, you are still losing tx power with the higher loss cable so depending on your ERP goal you may need an amplifier, generally not an issue with the LEO's. LMR-600 or hardline is my feedline of choice for 2m and up. I'm not suggesting that pre-amps can't or shouldn't be used but usually aren't needed if good low loss feedline is used to begin with. Dave N2OA On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:17 AM Roger Titmuss wrote: > Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. > > > > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a masthead > preamplifier? > > > > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? > > > > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > Roger G0AWY > > > > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. 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From jhbrtoo at aol.com Fri Jul 20 23:41:07 2018 From: jhbrtoo at aol.com (jhbrtoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:41:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat schedule Message-ID: <164ba117e31-c91-13945@webjas-vab088.srv.aolmail.net> I goofed and lost the link to the satellite scheduler which used to be from AMSAT/LU. I hope it wasn't dropped. Help, por favor From rolf.krogstad at gmail.com Sat Jul 21 00:52:31 2018 From: rolf.krogstad at gmail.com (Rolf Krogstad) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:52:31 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat schedule In-Reply-To: <164ba117e31-c91-13945@webjas-vab088.srv.aolmail.net> References: <164ba117e31-c91-13945@webjas-vab088.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Is this it? http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm 73 Rolf NR0T EN34 On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 6:42 PM jhbrtoo--- via AMSAT-BB wrote: > I goofed and lost the link to the satellite scheduler which used to be > from AMSAT/LU. I hope it wasn't dropped. > > > Help, por favor > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From sehaque at tekterrain.com Sat Jul 21 00:53:02 2018 From: sehaque at tekterrain.com (Samudra Haque [TTLLC]) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 00:53:02 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In-Reply-To: <788A011634EF9923.ca15cc3c-8866-4c21-a7dd-0492ca0dde8a@mail.outlook.com> References: <000001d41f4d$1f47a980$5dd6fc80$@com> , <1001763069.15122.1532031081573@mail.yahoo.com> <788A011634EF9923.ca15cc3c-8866-4c21-a7dd-0492ca0dde8a@mail.outlook.com> Message-ID: <22631656e32542fd805dbb0eb5624f7e@tekterrain.com> Sorry, should have added, the modems used in the commercial sat systems are IF-band (typ. 70 MHz center frequency +/- 18 MHz, or 140 MHz CF +/-) so any amateur radio service setup would have to consider how to get the modem generating low power RF to the ODU which would contain the transmit/receive switching (or separate TX and RX chains) and necessary high power amps and low noise amps respectively. -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Samudra Haque [TTLLC] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:19 PM To: Dave . ; k6vug at sbcglobal.net Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cables loss In the commercial satcom industry an ODU use is common enough that one might ne able to purchase old ODU (outdoor units) with tight seals and a world of RF components and mixer stages for dirt cheap to several hundred watts and very small sensitivity parts in the receive chains. Of course they are in the wrong band but internal microwave shielded enclosures and bulletproof clean power supplies along with a LNA or LNB might interest some. My wish is to setup a station in DC using this method for ham sats. Has anyone alreday done this ? Hint .. old Anacom units. Plus it can and was designed to be integrated into high wind antenna structures. HPA sections can be uncoupled and replaced (I fixed them in remote sites) and replaced with ham sat stuff. Comments welcome. Samudra N3RDX Sent from a device with a small screen. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:13 PM -0400, "k6vug at sbcglobal.net" > wrote: Hi Dave, You said everything I have learned and observed up until now, but please allow me to add one complication to it - FM discriminators (aka de-modulators) cannot handle very low signals well, for example, the downlinks of older lower power birds. I observe this when I switch between a vertical and a Yagi, the extra signal strength from even a short 3 element Yagi keeps the FM discriminator very happy. I find this issue less noticeable in SSB modes and adding a preamp is almost as good as turning up the volume control at the radio. 73! Umesh k6vug On Thursday, July 19, 2018, 12:07:26 PM PDT, Dave . wrote: While I'm still new to the sats I have been doing VHF/UHF weak signal work since the 80's and I've always preferred to spend the money on feedline rather than pre-amps. Given that pre-amps amplify the rx noise and signal you really don't improve signal to noise unless the noise figure of the pre-amp is better than your receiver. Usually your just amplifying the signal to make up for the loss that's going to happen as the signal makes it's way down the coax. You also add complexity when you want to TX on the antenna since you will need to add a t/r relay at the antenna. In addition, you are still losing tx power with the higher loss cable so depending on your ERP goal you may need an amplifier, generally not an issue with the LEO's. LMR-600 or hardline is my feedline of choice for 2m and up. I'm not suggesting that pre-amps can't or shouldn't be used but usually aren't needed if good low loss feedline is used to begin with. Dave N2OA On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:17 AM Roger Titmuss wrote: > Hi as a newcomer to this part of the hobby I have a couple of questions. > > > > 1. When using the M2 egg beaters how important is it to install a > masthead preamplifier? > > > > 2. Again with egg beater will 30 watts be enough to get back to the bird? > > > > I am using about 80 feet of RG213 to connect the antenna. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > Roger G0AWY > > > > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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From k8tl at earthlink.net Sat Jul 21 03:02:04 2018 From: k8tl at earthlink.net (Tom Lubbers K8TL) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:02:04 +0000 (GMT+00:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT32/Windows10 Message-ID: <1852069839.17154.1532142125316@wamui-bison.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Can PCSAT32 be run on windows 10. My main stumbling block is how to run as admin. Right clicking on the install icon doesn't give the permission box!!! From marklhammond at gmail.com Sat Jul 21 16:35:49 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 12:35:49 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT32/Windows10 In-Reply-To: <1852069839.17154.1532142125316@wamui-bison.atl.sa.earthlin k.net> References: <1852069839.17154.1532142125316@wamui-bison.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hi Tom, Yes, it works fine under Win10. Did you actually extract the installation file before trying the install? The file needs to be decompressed before installing...having the OS allow you to view a file is nice, but it sometimes creates issues. That's my guess, anyhow! Mark N8MH At 03:02 AM 7/21/2018 +0000, Tom Lubbers K8TL wrote: >Can PCSAT32 be run on windows 10. My main stumbling block is how to run as admin. Right clicking on the install icon doesn't give the permission box!!! >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 21 17:42:32 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 17:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] PCSAT32/Windows10 In-Reply-To: References: <1852069839.17154.1532142125316@wamui-bison.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <1852069839.17154.1532142125316@wamui-bison.atl.sa.earthlin k.net> Message-ID: <1731184794.302682.1532194952141@mail.yahoo.com> A couple of things come to mind -? - the install icon on the desktop is just a shortcut, try setting the EXE file to run as admin,? - but Installing it a sub-folder other than the standard Program Files folder will eliminate the need to run as admin.? ? Best,? Umesh? k6vug? ? ? On Saturday, July 21, 2018, 9:36:16 AM PDT, Mark L. Hammond wrote: Hi Tom, Yes, it works fine under Win10.? Did you actually extract the installation file before trying the install?? The file needs to be decompressed before installing...having the OS allow you to view a file is nice, but it sometimes creates issues. That's my guess, anyhow! Mark N8MH At 03:02 AM 7/21/2018 +0000, Tom Lubbers K8TL wrote: >Can PCSAT32 be run on windows 10.? My main stumbling block is how to run as admin.? Right clicking on the install icon doesn't give the permission box!!! From kt4tz at cfl.rr.com Sun Jul 22 00:32:35 2018 From: kt4tz at cfl.rr.com (Lee McLamb) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 20:32:35 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-203 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <1dfffa82-2174-7394-1742-bfba4daffdeb@cfl.rr.com> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-203 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. In this edition: * 2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots * Scotland site selected as launch base for Lockheed Martin, Orbex * Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 7-18-2018 * Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-19 * Faculty Positions Opening This Summer at the Hawaii Space Flight Lab SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-203.01 ANS-203 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 203.01 ?From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. DATE July 22, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-203.01 2018 Corrected Board of Directors Ballots Due to a printing error, the beige-colored ballots mailed to AMSAT- NA members for the 2018 Board of Directors election on July 15, 2018 have been declared void. Any of these voided ballots received at the AMSAT-NA office will not be counted. New ballots labeled "CORRECTED BALLOT 7/20/2018" and printed on yellow-colored cardstock will be mailed to all AMSAT-NA members. Please vote for no more than three of the 2018 candidates: Tom Clark, K3IO Mark Hammond, N8MH Scott Harvey, KA7FVV Bruce Paige, KK5DO Peter Portanova, W2JV The Directors positions will go to the three candidates receiving the highest number of votes. In addition, there will be two alternate members chosen, based on the next highest number of votes received. [ANS thanks Clayton W5PFG AMSAT-NA Corporate Secretary for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Scotland site selected as launch base for Lockheed Martin, Orbex Two companies ? U.S. aerospace giant Lockheed Martin and British start-up Orbex ? seeking to carve out a share of the burgeoning small satellite launch market plan to fly their rockets from a remote site on the northern shore of Scotland, British government and industry officials announced Monday. The proposed launch facility would be built on A?Mhoine Peninsula, a sparsely- populated stretch of land overlooking the sea. The first launch from Sutherland could happen in the early 2020s. British government officials said the development of a U.K. spaceport would give the nation?s industry broader access to the space market. British companies, such as SSTL in England and Clyde Space in Scotland, are already counted among the global leaders in constructing small satellites. Scottish Secretary David Mundell said the Sutherland launch site could create hundreds of new jobs. Lockheed Martin is reportedly interested in launching a variant of Rocket Lab?s Electron booster from the Sutherland site. The U.S. aerospace contractor is a strategic investor in Rocket Lab, which already operates an orbital spaceport in New Zealand, and is planning to develop a U.S. launch pad for the Electron vehicle, which has made two test flights to date. Rocket Lab said in a statement late Monday that it is ?evaluating launch opportunities? from the Sutherland spaceport in Scotland. ?Electron is well-positioned to be the first orbital rocket launched from U.K. soil,? said Peter Beck, Rocket Lab?s founder and CEO. ?We?re excited to review the opportunity to develop a launch service to support the U.K. space industry?s growth. ?Every aspect of Rocket Lab?s launch model is designed to offer rapid, repeatable and precise delivery to orbit for small satellites,? Beck said in a statement. ?The development of launch sites around the globe that can support Electron launches is crucial to delivering unprecedented access to orbit.? [ANS thanks SpaceFlightNow for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Changes to AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution for 7-18-2018 The nine cubesats (JAXA) that were deployed on April 13,2018 from the ISS have been added this week as follows: Object NU - NORAD CAT ID 43546 Object NV - NORAD CAT ID 43547 Object NW - NORAD CAT ID 43548 Object NX - NORAD CAT ID 43549 Object NY - NORAD CAT ID 43550 Object NZ - NORAD CAT ID 43551 Object PA - NORAD CAT ID 43552 Object PB - NORAD CAT ID 43553 Object PC - NORAD CAT ID 43554 These objects are too close together to be positively identified. The objects deployed are RainCube, Radix, CubeRRT, HaloSat, TEMPEST-D, EnduroSat AD, EQUISat, MemSat and RadSat-g Only the following operate in the Amateur bands: EduroSat AD 437.050MHz CW, GFSK 9k6 EQUISat 435.550MHz CW, FSK 9k6 MemSat 437.350MHz BPSK 9k6 (per IARU Coordination status) [ANS thanks Nico Janssen (PA0DLO), IARU and AMSAT-UK for the above info} --------------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-19 Shinoda Elementary School, Izumi City, Japan, direct via 8N3SD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Mon 2018-07-23 09:47:14 UTC 43 deg ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA, (CASIS#2), participating school Quest Institute for Quality Education, San Jose, CA, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-07-26 20:22:10 UTC 48 deg ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.80 MHz. [ANS thanks Charlie, AJ9N, for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Faculty Positions Opening This Summer at the Hawaii Space Flight Lab There are two new tenure track faculty positions opening this summer to work with the Hawaii Space Flight Lab on Small Satellite research. These two positions are for an Assistant Researcher and the other for an Associate Researcher. The position announcement can be found at: http://workatuh.hawaii.edu/Jobs/NAdvert/28814/4956642/1/postdate/desc This is the HSFL website: https://www.hsfl.hawaii.edu/ and a brief overview of the lab in PDF format can be found in this link: https://www.hsfl.hawaii.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/HSFL- Overview-2018-07-01.pdf The HSFL team will be at SmallSat so anyone interested can meet the team and learn more about HSFL. [ANS thanks Miguel Nunes for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73, This week's ANS Editor, Lee McLamb, KT4TZ kt4tz at amsat dot org From k8tl at earthlink.net Sun Jul 22 13:45:23 2018 From: k8tl at earthlink.net (Tom Lubbers K8TL) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 09:45:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks for the help Message-ID: <758410468.1416.1532267123868@wamui-napoleon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks for all who helped me with PCSAT and windows 10, new to windows 10. Now things up and running with the Green Heron/windows 10/PCSAT 32. Now have old Yaesu Control box and LVB tracker moved to the no longer in use shelf. Now replacing my old KLM's with MM's. Tom K8TL From kb2mjeff at att.net Sun Jul 22 17:15:12 2018 From: kb2mjeff at att.net (kb2mjeff at att.net) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 13:15:12 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 PAT V panadapter board In-Reply-To: <72D7B063084F4B369224BE595BB969F4@kb2m4PC> References: <3D15D5ACA4BB40FB9F67ACE6B7798618@kb2m4PC> <72D7B063084F4B369224BE595BB969F4@kb2m4PC> Message-ID: <84F71F82495E4D4C8EC3B26DC5C88560@kb2m4PC> I now have it working with HDSDR and SDR-Console. After attempting to work some birds with this setup for a couple of days I've come to the conclusion that the 3 to 4 db loss I'm seeing from splitting the RX data doesn't work well enough with my setup here. Switching from the Flex to the Icom has the same effect and more that turning my pre amps off would do. The loss makes the pass unusable. Now I do have a marginal antenna system, The M2 leopak that might be contributing to the problem. I'm packing up to return to NJ for the rest of the summer. My antenna system up there has a somewhat higher gain, a Cushcraft AOP-1, so maybe this will work better there. I will be brining my Flex VU5K along also just in case I don't get this worked out :-) I might be able to configure the software better, to get the gain up, but that's not looking likely at this point. I was planning on selling the VU5K and keeping the 9100, but now that doesn't look like the Icom is anywhere near replacing the Flex.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: kb2mjeff at att.net Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 9:34 AM To: Amsat Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 PAT V panadapter board Been researching all available software and can't find a way to get the SDRPlay (or any SDR) to just simply track the 9100's d/l frequency. That would be ideal. Anyone have any ideas on how this might be done? 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Scott Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 6:44 PM To: Amsat Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC-9100 PAT V panadapter board >>> What SDR S/W is anyone using with their SDRPlay for sat?s? Hi Jeff! I use HDSDR and it works very well for me. I was only in receive mode for a long time learning how to decode various types of satellite telemetry but now I also get on the amateur sats with voice transponders. HDSDR does everything that I need to do with an SDR both for telemetry reception as well as being the downlink "radio" for transponder use. I would imagine the other applications do most if not all of the same things. But, in my case, I just learned how to navigate in HDSDR and preferred it after trying the others. -Scott, K4KDR =========================== On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:18 PM, wrote: > I posted this to the 9100 group, and also here, in case anyone might be > interested in this. What SDR S/W is anyone using with their SDRPlay for > sat?s? I?m trying to learn SDR-Console and the learning curve is very > steep. I vaguely remember a few years ago getting it working with some > other S/W.... > > > I finished my PAT V install on my 9100 this morning. I decided to do the > HF tap also, but not the 23cm. It?s went well, worse part was doing the HF > tap, I managed to move the top board out of the way without completely un > plugging, then removing the metal shield completely to get to the HF tap > point on the BPF board. Everything is working ok, only issue?s are I > haven?t figured out yet how to get the levels up to allow a better > waterfall display. I?m using SDR-Console. I also have to figure out how > to > get the display to follow the 9100. Just started using SDR-Console and the > learning curve is very steep. What I don?t understand is there is no > frequency offset needed to use the various taps, and also the bandwidth on > HF is very narrow? Any ideas? Also If anyone want's some pictures of my > install I will gladly send them along. > > A big thanks to Dave KD2C for making this available... > > 73 Jeff kb2m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Sun Jul 22 18:14:30 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:14:30 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nayif1 Data Warehouse Message-ID: <0823F7AC-52DF-44EC-B8CC-DA2370254C8C@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi, I have just got back from a two week holiday and while going through my mail found a report that the data display had been stuck for a few days. It turns out that one of the internal services had failed due to lack of resource. The good thing is that the raw data has been captured during the period and I'm writing a small application to do a catch up. The services are all working again now. 73 Dave, G4DPZ From kk5do at arrl.net Sun Jul 22 19:59:30 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 14:59:30 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Awards Update Message-ID: <661040f5-af2d-a9b7-f7f3-b347432b075a@arrl.net> Since my last post and actually since the beginning of 2018, I have been posting all the Rover Awards on my Twitter account and tagging @AMSAT. I will include all the Rover Awards here for those that do not have Twitter. AMSAT Satellite Communicators Award for making their first satellite QSO Thomas Hetland, DL8DXW Bernd Preusker, DO1UB German School Club Station DL0IKT German School Club Station DL0TSD Daivd Dean, AE7ID Adam Donahue, KE0JWQ Mitchell Ahrenstoff, AD0HJ Stephen Szabo, WB4OMM Michael Clark, N4WQH ------ AMSAT Communications Achievement Award David Stanley, WI4L, #580 Randy Kohlwey, WI7P, #581 (This is Randy's Second go around after moving his QTH) Marissa Robledo 11-year old, W4AQT, #582 Paul Overn, KE0PBR, #583 Mitchell Ahrenstorff, AD0HJ, #584 ------ AMSAT South Africa Satellite Communications Achievement Award David Stanley, WI4L, #US206 Marissa Robledo 11-year old, W4AQT, #US207 Paul Overn, KE0PBR, #US208 ------ AMSAT Sexagesimal Award Randy Kohlway, WI7P, #182 (This is Randy's Second go around after moving his QTH) ------ AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Award Adrian Liggins, VA3NNA, #95 Steve Nordahl, NS3L, #96 ------ AMSAT Rover Award (New for 2018) Rover Call ===== ======== 001 AC0RA 002 WD9EWK 003 NJ4Y 004 M0IDA 005 KG5GJT 006 EB1AO 007 N7AGF 008 N4YHC 009 W0S 010 KE0PBR 011 K5IX 012 AK4WQ 013 WI7P 014 K5ND 015 N6UA 016 N9IP 017 N4UFO 018 K7TAB 019 K8BL 020 AD0DX 021 HB9WDF 022 KE4AL 023 KE9AJ 024 AA8CH 025 WY7AA 026 KE8FZT 027 KX9X 73...bruce To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or http://www.amsatnet.com/awards.html Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0200z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes From kk5do at arrl.net Sun Jul 22 20:57:16 2018 From: kk5do at arrl.net (Bruce) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 15:57:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Awards Update Message-ID: Since my last post and actually since the beginning of 2018, I have been posting all the Rover Awards on my Twitter account and tagging @AMSAT. I will include all the Rover Awards here for those that do not have Twitter. AMSAT Satellite Communicators Award for making their first satellite QSO Thomas Hetland, DL8DXW Bernd Preusker, DO1UB German School Club Station DL0IKT German School Club Station DL0TSD Daivd Dean, AE7ID Adam Donahue, KE0JWQ Mitchell Ahrenstoff, AD0HJ Stephen Szabo, WB4OMM Michael Clark, N4WQH ------ AMSAT Communications Achievement Award David Stanley, WI4L, #580 Randy Kohlwey, WI7P, #581 (This is Randy's Second go around after moving his QTH) Marissa Robledo 11-year old, W4AQT, #582 Paul Overn, KE0PBR, #583 Mitchell Ahrenstorff, AD0HJ, #584 ------ AMSAT South Africa Satellite Communications Achievement Award David Stanley, WI4L, #US206 Marissa Robledo 11-year old, W4AQT, #US207 Paul Overn, KE0PBR, #US208 ------ AMSAT Sexagesimal Award Randy Kohlway, WI7P, #182 (This is Randy's Second go around after moving his QTH) ------ AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Award Adrian Liggins, VA3NNA, #95 Steve Nordahl, NS3L, #96 ------ AMSAT Rover Award (New for 2018) Rover Call ===== ======== 001 AC0RA 002 WD9EWK 003 NJ4Y 004 M0IDA 005 KG5GJT 006 EB1AO 007 N7AGF 008 N4YHC 009 W0S 010 KE0PBR 011 K5IX 012 AK4WQ 013 WI7P 014 K5ND 015 N6UA 016 N9IP 017 N4UFO 018 K7TAB 019 K8BL 020 AD0DX 021 HB9WDF 022 KE4AL 023 KE9AJ 024 AA8CH 025 WY7AA 026 KE8FZT 027 KX9X 73...bruce To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org and click on Services the Awards Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0200z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes From dave at g4dpz.me.uk Sun Jul 22 21:45:39 2018 From: dave at g4dpz.me.uk (David Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 22:45:39 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] Nayif1 Data Warehouse Problems Message-ID: <8E168887-D84D-4925-A9A3-D23C63F02A46@g4dpz.me.uk> Hi There appears to be a problem with the hardware that runs the service. I am going to speak to the service provider tomorrow (22:00 BST) here. Your dashboards will back off until the service returns. Dave, G4DPZ Sent from my iPhone From dtabor at estesvalley.net Tue Jul 24 02:18:11 2018 From: dtabor at estesvalley.net (Douglas Tabor) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 20:18:11 -0600 Subject: [amsat-bb] Reservations at AMSAT Symposium Message-ID: <65915846-7A1F-4722-9E7B-B2015A71B7F6@estesvalley.net> 1) When I went to the reservation link, I found that I can ?pull-down? for multiple rooms but NOT for Guests/room. I suppose that I can book 1 room and just have my better half show up. 2) I was out of town, but saw that there was some hub-bub about the election ballot. Didn?t see anything on the website about it, but noticed that the instructions in the left column conflict with the right column heading. I?m going with the ?read carefully? side for my 3 BoD selections. 73, Douglas Tabor, N6UA dtabor at estesvalley.net From aj9n at aol.com Tue Jul 24 03:27:44 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 23:27:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-24 04:00 UTC Message-ID: <164ca541145-c9b-fc8@webjas-vab142.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-24 04:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: 7th International Aerospace School. I.N. Sultanova Rep. Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Artemyev Contact was successful: 2018-07-20 20:15 UTC (***) ? Shinoda Elementary School, Izumi City, Japan, direct via 8N3SD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact was successful: Mon 2018-07-23 09:47:14 UTC 43 deg (***) ? ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA, (CASIS#2), participating school Quest Institute for Quality Education, San Jose, CA, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contract is a go for: Thu 2018-07-26 20:22:10 UTC 48 deg ? Nepal Astronomical Society (NASO), Kathmandu, Nepal, telebridge via W6SRJ (***)?? The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU (***) Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-31 08:01:46 UTC 40 deg (***) ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 129 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 105 (***) **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-24 04:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1240. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1188. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-07-24 04:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From bkeating1954 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 03:50:32 2018 From: bkeating1954 at gmail.com (Bob Keating) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 20:50:32 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] DM07 Rove Message-ID: <86d78d09-0c5e-8276-7b71-864b173b54f4@gmail.com> To All of You Who Heard Me this past weekend, I will be logging all of my satellite contacts from Silver Lake Resort (DM07) near June Lake, CA in the Eastern Sierra with my N6REK/P callsign on LoTW, QRZ and eqsl. FYI, I will be back there in DM07 from August 29 to Sept. 2nd working the FM birds whenever I get the chance. More on that as the dates approach. I might even be able to activate some new grids. 73, Bob, N6REK From hamsat at xs4all.nl Tue Jul 24 12:40:23 2018 From: hamsat at xs4all.nl (Nico Janssen) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:40:23 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] EnduroSat One and EQUiSat identified Message-ID: <4326fbcf-f561-b8c0-f503-fa110c824907@xs4all.nl> Detailed doppler measurements show that EnduroSat One (downlink 437.050 MHz) is object 43551 (1998-067NZ) and EQUiSat (downlink 435.550 MHz) is object 43552 (1998-067PA). No signals received from MemSat (downlink 437.350 MHz) and RadSat-g (downlink 437.425 MHz). 73, Nico PA0DLO From ingejack at cox.net Tue Jul 24 16:08:37 2018 From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 12:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] YESU FT847 Message-ID: <808980058.725544.1532448517736@myemail.cox.net> I have a Yaesu FT847 in excellent condition for sale. Full output on all bands and excellent cosmetics. Comes with MH31 Dynamic microphone and full length power cord. I will also include a Cat control cable to be used with SATPC32 or other computer control programs. If anyone is interested please email me at Thanks You.. JACK KC7MG From milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 21:31:36 2018 From: milen.bourilkov+amsatbb at gmail.com (Milen KG2C) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:31:36 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EnduroSat One and EQUiSat identified In-Reply-To: <4326fbcf-f561-b8c0-f503-fa110c824907@xs4all.nl> References: <4326fbcf-f561-b8c0-f503-fa110c824907@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hi all, Could anyone advise on what software I should use to decode the telemetry from EnduroSat? I should have an overhead pass tonight and would like to give it a try. The website lists this: > Modulation: 2GFSK(GMSK), Frequency deviation 2400 Hz, Speed 9600 bit/sec > Preamble: 5 x 0x55, 0x55, 0x55, 0x55, 0x55 > Sync word: 0x7E > Packet format: AX.25 UI-bitstuffed, NRZI-encoded, G3RUH-scrambled, > CRC16-CCIT Would something like UISS with the High Speed SoundModem by UZ7HO work or is special software required? Best wishes, Milen KG2C On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Nico Janssen wrote: > > Detailed doppler measurements show that EnduroSat One (downlink > 437.050 MHz) is object 43551 (1998-067NZ) and EQUiSat (downlink > 435.550 MHz) is object 43552 (1998-067PA). > > No signals received from MemSat (downlink 437.350 MHz) and > RadSat-g (downlink 437.425 MHz). > > 73, > Nico PA0DLO > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From scott23192 at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 22:11:53 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:11:53 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] EnduroSat One and EQUiSat identified In-Reply-To: References: <4326fbcf-f561-b8c0-f503-fa110c824907@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hey there, Milen! Yeah, if they haven't changed anything, the HS_Soundmodem from UZ7HO will decode it when set to 9600 ("FSK G3RUH 9600bd"). You should end up with something like this: -------------------------------- 2018-07-14 05:47:17.450 UTC: from LZ0AMS to CQ (UI, payload: 13 byte) 000 > C0 00 86 A2 40 40 40 40 E0 98 B4 60 82 9A A6 E1 03 F0 48 65 020 > 6C 6C 6F 2C 20 77 6F 72 6C 64 21 C0 ?.??@@@@???`????.?Hello, world!? ________________________________________________________________________________ 2018-07-14 05:48:04.692 UTC: from LZ0AMS to CQ (UI, payload: 13 byte) 000 > C0 00 86 A2 40 40 40 40 E0 98 B4 60 82 9A A6 E1 03 F0 48 65 020 > 6C 6C 6F 2C 20 77 6F 72 6C 64 21 C0 ?.??@@@@???`????.?Hello, world!? ________________________________________________________________________________ 2018-07-14 05:52:13.949 UTC: from LZ0AMS to CQ (UI, payload: 13 byte) 000 > C0 00 86 A2 40 40 40 40 E0 98 B4 60 82 9A A6 E1 03 F0 48 65 020 > 6C 6C 6F 2C 20 77 6F 72 6C 64 21 C0 ?.??@@@@???`????.?Hello, world!? ________________________________________________________________________________ 73! -Scott, K4KDR =========================== =========================== -----Original Message----- From: Milen KG2C Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 5:31 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] EnduroSat One and EQUiSat identified Hi all, Could anyone advise on what software I should use to decode the telemetry from EnduroSat? I should have an overhead pass tonight and would like to give it a try. The website lists this: > Modulation: 2GFSK(GMSK), Frequency deviation 2400 Hz, Speed 9600 bit/sec > Preamble: 5 x 0x55, 0x55, 0x55, 0x55, 0x55 > Sync word: 0x7E > Packet format: AX.25 UI-bitstuffed, NRZI-encoded, G3RUH-scrambled, > CRC16-CCIT Would something like UISS with the High Speed SoundModem by UZ7HO work or is special software required? Best wishes, Milen KG2C On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Nico Janssen wrote: > > Detailed doppler measurements show that EnduroSat One (downlink > 437.050 MHz) is object 43551 (1998-067NZ) and EQUiSat (downlink > 435.550 MHz) is object 43552 (1998-067PA). > > No signals received from MemSat (downlink 437.350 MHz) and > RadSat-g (downlink 437.425 MHz). > > 73, > Nico PA0DLO From aj9n at aol.com Wed Jul 25 03:56:32 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 23:56:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-25 03:30 UTC Message-ID: <164cf94c7d0-c97-6c5d@webjas-vab197.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-25 03:30 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: Shinoda Elementary School, Izumi City, Japan, direct via 8N3SD The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact was successful: Mon 2018-07-23 09:47:14 UTC 43 deg (***) ? ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA, (CASIS#2), participating school Quest Institute for Quality Education, San Jose, CA, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contract is a go for: Thu 2018-07-26 20:22:10 UTC 48 deg ? Nepal Astronomical Society (NASO), Kathmandu, Nepal, telebridge via W6SRJ (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU (***) Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-31 08:01:46 UTC 40 deg (***) ? ? ARISS received late word of another successful Russian contact (***) About Gagarin From Space.? Performing a session of amateur radio communication with the 7th International Aerospace School. U.N. Sultanova Rep. Bashkortostan, Ufa, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB (***) The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS (***) The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Artemyev (***) Contact was successful for 2018-07-13 21:30 UTC (***) ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 130 (***) Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 106 (***) **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-25 03:30 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1241. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1189. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-07-25 03:30 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 25 05:22:59 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (n4csitwo at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:22:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA Message-ID: An International Space Station school contact has been planned the ISS R&D Conference in San Francisco, CA with participating students of Quest Institute for Quality Education in San Jose, CA on 26 July. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 20:22 UTC. It is recommended that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time. The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK5ZAI. The contact should be audible over Australia and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be conducted in English. Valley Christian Schools is committed to a Quest for ExcellenceT in all of its educational programs and provides a comprehensive kindergarten through twelfth grade curriculum with a rigorous college preparatory program and challenges youth to aspire toward lives of character, service and influence while pursuing their individual Quests for Excellence. Since 2011, The Quest Institute ISS Partner Program has successfully trained over 700 students from more than 20 schools, both public and private, from the United States and abroad. Accolades have come from four US presidents, multiple senators, actor Tom Hanks, and four US NASA astronauts. Students have presented their scientific results at the Cal Poly Space Conference, ASGSR, and at Lockheed Martin. The Quest Institute for Quality Education developed the ISS Partner Program in partnership with Valley Christian School's AMSE Institute. It is designed to help schools start a very unique space STEM program in their learning environment. This program has a duration of one school year and can be structured to be an after-school program or a classroom program, both of which have been successful in the past for ISS Partner Schools The program begins with a one-week comprehensive summer training program for your teachers at the Quest Institute's headquarters advanced STEM facilities of Valley Christian Schools' Skyway Campus in San Jose, California. During the summer, students prepare for the ISS program by doing a self-paced learning kit that teaches them basic electronics and basic programming skills. By the time school begins in the fall, both the students and teachers are trained to start selecting, designing, building, and testing an ISS experiment. A ground-based control unit is made and its results are compared with an identical unit sent to the ISS, working in microgravity. The program is designed to work optimally for a group of 8-12 junior high or high school students. The students work with two teacher/mentors that guide the students from the beginning to the end of the project. They typically meet for about 4 hours per week from the start of the school year to approximately early March, when the experiment must be ready to ship to NASA after the Quest Institute checks all experiments for a "go status" to the ISS. Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows: 1. If a doctor was to perform medical procedures on the ISS such as a surgery, how would the procedure be different due to the environmental complications? 2. What is the most significant factor in designing a microgravity experiment aboard the ISS? 3. We know the ISS is in micro-gravity while it orbits the earth. Do astronauts experience free fall as you might on a roller coaster?" 4. How will AI contribute or interfere with the ISS missions? 5. What were your thoughts when you first arrived aboard the ISS? 6. What inspired you to become an astronaut? 7. What is it like being in zero gravity? 8. What made you want to live on the ISS? 9. What major technological innovations do you think could come from research conducted on the ISS, and how can it benefit mankind and the earth? 10. What is it like transitioning from the ISS back to earth? 11. What can High School students do to help the ISS and space exploration as a whole? 12. If you could sum up the importance of the ISS to mankind and the world, what would you say it consists of? 13. How do you feel about students launching experiments aboard the ISS? 14. How does the ISS contribute to the environmental issues facing our modern society today? 15. Does living on the space station feel humbling in the sense that there is a whole galaxy outside your window and Earth is only a small part of it? 16. Have you ever looked at or been fascinated by any particular junior high or high school student's experiments which have flown aboard the ISS? PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES: Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS). To receive our Twitter updates, follow @ARISS_status Next planned event(s): 1. Nepal Astronomical Society (NASO), Kathmandu, Nepal, telebridge via W6SRJ The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Ricky Arnold KE5DAU Contact is a go for: Tue 2018-07-31 08:01 UTC About ARISS: Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS). In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or informal education venues. With the help of experienced amateur radio volunteers, ISS crews speak directly with large audiences in a variety of public forums. Before and during these radio contacts, students, teachers, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org, www.amsat.org, and www.arrl.org. Thank you & 73, David - AA4KN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ke4al at yahoo.com Wed Jul 25 07:29:07 2018 From: ke4al at yahoo.com (Robert Bankston) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Website - Upcoming Satellite Operations References: <1484746886.2008965.1532503747811.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1484746886.2008965.1532503747811@mail.yahoo.com> I am pleased to announce that I am now responsible for AMSAT-NA's Upcoming Satellite Operates webpage.? I have posted a handful of? upcoming GridExpeditions, with more coming in the next couple of days. https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/ It has been an exciting Summer, so far, with the activations of both EL58 and EL84, and the Summer is not over yet.?? If you are planning a roving trip, please email me a brief description, so we can make sure announcement is publicized. Thanks in advance and 73, Robert | KE4AL From ross.biggar at outlook.com Wed Jul 25 01:19:26 2018 From: ross.biggar at outlook.com (Ross Biggar) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:19:26 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem program Message-ID: Hi All, My Fox telem program is only showing AO-91 how can I get it to show the other satellites as well such as AO-92, so I can deload the data from that sat . Regards Ross ZL1WN From n8hm at arrl.net Wed Jul 25 14:45:25 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 10:45:25 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ross, Are you using the latest version of FoxTelem? It should be 1.06r and should include support for all 5 Fox-1 satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92, Fox-1Cliff, and RadFxSat-2 / Fox-1E). The latest version can be downloaded at http://www.amsat.org/tlm/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Ross Biggar wrote: > Hi All, > > My Fox telem program is only showing AO-91 how can I get it to show the other satellites as well such as AO-92, so I can deload the data from that sat . > > > Regards > > Ross > > ZL1WN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From royldean at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 14:58:02 2018 From: royldean at gmail.com (Roy Dean) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 10:58:02 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem program Message-ID: Also, for the linux version at least, when you install it asks you if you want to install specific spacecraft (I usually say yes to all of them, including the ones that aren't in space yet). I'm sure there is a way to add them after the fact, but never done it. You may want to simply reinstall it and look out of that dialog that asks you if you want to install the specific spacecraft (assuming it does that on all platforms). --Roy K3RLD Ross, Are you using the latest version of FoxTelem? It should be 1.06r and > should include support for all 5 Fox-1 satellites (AO-85, AO-91, > AO-92, Fox-1Cliff, and RadFxSat-2 / Fox-1E). The latest version can be > downloaded at http://www.amsat.org/tlm/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jul 24, > 2018 at 9:19 PM, Ross Biggar > wrote: > >* Hi All, *> > >* My Fox telem program is only showing AO-91 how can I get it to show > the other satellites as well such as AO-92, so I can deload the data from > that sat . *> > > > >* Regards *> > >* Ross *> > >* ZL1WN* From ross.biggar at outlook.com Tue Jul 24 21:19:58 2018 From: ross.biggar at outlook.com (Ross Biggar) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 21:19:58 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data Message-ID: I am interested in downloading and decoding telemetry data from various satellites. The Fox satellites are easy, I can receive and decode them perfectly. I would like information on how to find software to decode the various protocols such as 1k2, 4k2, 9k2 BPSK and 9k6/19k2 GMSK etc. I have beams suitable for EME on 144 and 432 so receiving the satellites is no problem. I hope someone can assist me. Regards Ross ZL1WN Amsat life member From wa7dxz at aol.com Wed Jul 25 16:19:12 2018 From: wa7dxz at aol.com (wa7dxz) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 09:19:12 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mobile antennas Message-ID: <20180725161920.A017E8D93@lansing182.amsat.org> I have know this has been answered, but, what is the best dual band mag mount type antenna for mobile satellite work???1/4 w 2 meter that will also work 435, or a longer 5/8 2m dual band?? ? I saw a post 2 months ago, but, didnt save it.? ?It may not be the best setup, but it beats not roving at all. For times when I can't deploy the ELK.Bobwa7dxz Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone From diehl.mike.a at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 16:44:56 2018 From: diehl.mike.a at gmail.com (Mike Diehl) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:44:56 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Mobile antennas In-Reply-To: <20180725161920.A017E8D93@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20180725161920.A017E8D93@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: <9C8D0B13-F2F0-4B14-9F22-A461A3A59746@gmail.com> Mobile antennas are designed to radiate at low angles and typically don?t work that well. They?re omnidirectional and omnis just don?t perform well on satellite in general. It always seems mobile stations make more chaos than QSOs. That said, I have used my Diamond NR770HAB a few times to work AO-85 on some relatively low (<15?) passes while cruising through the Mojave desert with ok success. Keep in mind that you?ll be fixed polarity and will experience ?deep fades?. If you?re going to try it then keep calling to a minimum because there?s a good chance there will be times when the bird is hearing you but you?re not hearing it and end up stepping on people like all mobile stations seem to do. 73, Mike Diehl W8LID/VE6LID > On Jul 25, 2018, at 12:19, wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > I have know this has been answered, but, what is the best dual band mag mount type antenna for mobile satellite work? 1/4 w 2 meter that will also work 435, or a longer 5/8 2m dual band? I saw a post 2 months ago, but, didnt save it. It may not be the best setup, but it beats not roving at all. For times when I can't deploy the ELK.Bobwa7dxz > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From marklhammond at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 16:49:17 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:49:17 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great, Ross. Welcome to the addiction :) So many protocols/decoding schemes/wearhouse/data collection methods. I suggest you can find a wealth of information here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ Mike also offers many software solutions for helping to collect and decode... Hope you enjoy this aspect of the hobby! I know I do...just not enough radios, antennas, and computers to do them all ;) 73---Mark N8MH On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Ross Biggar wrote: > I am interested in downloading and decoding telemetry data from various > satellites. > > > The Fox satellites are easy, I can receive and decode them perfectly. > > I would like information on how to find software to decode the various > protocols such as 1k2, 4k2, 9k2 BPSK and 9k6/19k2 GMSK etc. > > > I have beams suitable for EME on 144 and 432 so receiving the > > satellites is no problem. > > > I hope someone can assist me. > > > Regards > > Ross > > ZL1WN > > > Amsat life member > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From ingejack at cox.net Wed Jul 25 17:12:33 2018 From: ingejack at cox.net (alex weimer) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 13:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [amsat-bb] YAESU FT847 Message-ID: <2143204826.778432.1532538753402@myemail.cox.net> Radio has been sold !! Thanks to all who requested info JACK KC7MG From k8bl at ameritech.net Wed Jul 25 17:28:05 2018 From: k8bl at ameritech.net (R.T.Liddy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 17:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Trip To AK BP64 References: <1862821417.2289187.1532539685018.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1862821417.2289187.1532539685018@mail.yahoo.com> SAT Gridders, I'm taking a "Bucket List" Trip to Alaska next week to check off a few items. Going to Fairbanks from 8/2 through 8/8 and taking my regular Rover Gear - IC820H & Arrow w/tripod. Plan is to activate BP64 and a couple nearby Grids - holiday style. That means I'll pop up on various Satellites with no strict schedule other than a Twitter Message with a few hours notice. LoTW upload upon return. Items to be checked off are: 1) 43rd State visited - AK; 2) Arctic Circle; 3) Denali Visit; 4) 112th Grid activated and hopefully more; 5) Northern Lights - KYFC; 6) Almost Midnight Sun 73,. Bob K8BL (Log as K8BL/KL7) From k5vou2 at verizon.net Wed Jul 25 17:36:16 2018 From: k5vou2 at verizon.net (K5VOU) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:36:16 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is there an AMSAT Brandmeister Talkgroup? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5d84049d-4c3c-d2b3-29ae-47f71a524d30@verizon.net> On 6/17/2018 10:35, K5VOU wrote: > I have discovered how easy it is to talk to ham around the world using > the Brandmeister network and an inexpensive hot spot device. Right now > I am listening to TG91 which is world wide and really enjoying it. I > have seen several special TG listed and wondered if any AMSAT > organization has a TG and if so what is the number? > > 73, > > Tom K5VOU > LM 2032 > Brandmeister TG98006 is labeled AMSAT. Not officially recognized? Tom K5VOU From kb1pvh at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 18:17:55 2018 From: kb1pvh at gmail.com (Dave Webb KB1PVH) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 14:17:55 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Is there an AMSAT Brandmeister Talkgroup? In-Reply-To: <5d84049d-4c3c-d2b3-29ae-47f71a524d30@verizon.net> References: <5d84049d-4c3c-d2b3-29ae-47f71a524d30@verizon.net> Message-ID: I'm on 98006 if someone wants to try to see if it's working. Dave-KB1PVH Sent from my Galaxy S9 On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 1:43 PM K5VOU wrote: > On 6/17/2018 10:35, K5VOU wrote: > > I have discovered how easy it is to talk to ham around the world using > > the Brandmeister network and an inexpensive hot spot device. Right now > > I am listening to TG91 which is world wide and really enjoying it. I > > have seen several special TG listed and wondered if any AMSAT > > organization has a TG and if so what is the number? > > > > 73, > > > > Tom K5VOU > > LM 2032 > > > Brandmeister TG98006 is labeled AMSAT. Not officially recognized? > > Tom K5VOU > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From avdeur at home.nl Wed Jul 25 22:42:51 2018 From: avdeur at home.nl (Albert van Deursen) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 00:42:51 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] PAT Board Panadapter for Yaesu FT-736R Installation advice Message-ID: <003e01d42468$d1c033a0$75409ae0$@nl> Recently received ,via SDR-Kits who took over the business from hupRF Products, a Panoramic Adapter Tap Boards (PAT) for my good old Yaesu FT-736R. I found the installation information (pictures only) of this PAT15 board for the FT-736R rather limited . Could any of possible users of this board contact me for more detailed advice ? Thanks beforehand ! 73 Albert PD0OXW From scott23192 at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 23:23:32 2018 From: scott23192 at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:23:32 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark is right on - the DK3WN website is full of helpful info and software. Another great site that does a nice job familiarizing you with the concept of several pieces of software all working together is: http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/ ... plus you'll find lots of other useful information on Jan's website in addition to that one page. -Scott, K4KDR ==================================== On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote: > Great, Ross. Welcome to the addiction :) So many protocols/decoding > schemes/wearhouse/data collection methods. I suggest you can find a wealth > of information here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ Mike also offers many > software solutions for helping to collect and decode... > > Hope you enjoy this aspect of the hobby! I know I do...just not enough > radios, antennas, and computers to do them all ;) > > 73---Mark N8MH > > ==================================== > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Ross Biggar > wrote: > > > I am interested in downloading and decoding telemetry data from various > > satellites. > >> > > The Fox satellites are easy, I can receive and decode them perfectly. > > > > I would like information on how to find software to decode the various > > protocols such as 1k2, 4k2, 9k2 BPSK and 9k6/19k2 GMSK etc. > >> > > I have beams suitable for EME on 144 and 432 so receiving the > > > > satellites is no problem. > >> > > I hope someone can assist me. > >> > > Regards > > > > Ross > > ZL1WN From ross.biggar at outlook.com Wed Jul 25 23:40:45 2018 From: ross.biggar at outlook.com (Ross Biggar) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 23:40:45 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Thanks Scott, The information re the details from PE0SAT will be a great help. I am sure I will need more help though, it is "lonely" down here, having this type of interest. Regards Ross ZL1WN ________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB on behalf of Scott Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 11:23:32 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data Mark is right on - the DK3WN website is full of helpful info and software. Another great site that does a nice job familiarizing you with the concept of several pieces of software all working together is: http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/ ... plus you'll find lots of other useful information on Jan's website in addition to that one page. -Scott, K4KDR ==================================== On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote: > Great, Ross. Welcome to the addiction :) So many protocols/decoding > schemes/wearhouse/data collection methods. I suggest you can find a wealth > of information here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ Mike also offers many > software solutions for helping to collect and decode... > > Hope you enjoy this aspect of the hobby! I know I do...just not enough > radios, antennas, and computers to do them all ;) > > 73---Mark N8MH > > ==================================== > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Ross Biggar > wrote: > > > I am interested in downloading and decoding telemetry data from various > > satellites. > >> > > The Fox satellites are easy, I can receive and decode them perfectly. > > > > I would like information on how to find software to decode the various > > protocols such as 1k2, 4k2, 9k2 BPSK and 9k6/19k2 GMSK etc. > >> > > I have beams suitable for EME on 144 and 432 so receiving the > > > > satellites is no problem. > >> > > I hope someone can assist me. > >> > > Regards > > > > Ross > > ZL1WN _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. 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Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Thu Jul 26 04:00:46 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 00:00:46 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-26 04:00 UTC Message-ID: <164d4bf0586-c8b-d70@webjas-vae049.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-26 04:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA, (CASIS#2), participating school Quest Institute for Quality Education, San Jose, CA, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contact is a go for: Thu 2018-07-26 20:22:10 UTC 48 deg ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 130 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 106 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format? YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-26 04:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1241. Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1189. Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-07-25 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From ross.biggar at outlook.com Wed Jul 25 23:10:25 2018 From: ross.biggar at outlook.com (Ross Biggar) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 23:10:25 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hi Mark, Thanks for the comments. Would it be possible for you to give me more detailed information as to what I need. I have looked at DL3WN's site, do I need to install AGWPE etc?? Advice please Best wishes Ross ZL1WN ________________________________ From: Mark L. Hammond Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:49:17 AM To: Ross Biggar Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data Great, Ross. Welcome to the addiction :) So many protocols/decoding schemes/wearhouse/data collection methods. I suggest you can find a wealth of information here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ Mike also offers many software solutions for helping to collect and decode... Hope you enjoy this aspect of the hobby! I know I do...just not enough radios, antennas, and computers to do them all ;) 73---Mark N8MH On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Ross Biggar > wrote: I am interested in downloading and decoding telemetry data from various satellites. The Fox satellites are easy, I can receive and decode them perfectly. I would like information on how to find software to decode the various protocols such as 1k2, 4k2, 9k2 BPSK and 9k6/19k2 GMSK etc. I have beams suitable for EME on 144 and 432 so receiving the satellites is no problem. I hope someone can assist me. Regards Ross ZL1WN Amsat life member _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From wmc_jx at 163.com Thu Jul 26 05:46:18 2018 From: wmc_jx at 163.com (=?GBK?B?zqTD97So?=) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:46:18 +0800 (CST) Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Test Plan for This Weekend Message-ID: <58d53a2a.663a.164d51fa5bc.Coremail.wmc_jx@163.com> Hi OMs, The following tests of DSLWP-B UHF are planned: 28 Jul 2018 16:00:00 to 28 Jul 2018 18:00:00 29 Jul 2018 01:50:00 to 29 Jul 2018 03:50:00 29 Jul 2018 16:00:00 to 29 Jul 2018 18:00:00 All time in UTC. GMSK on both frequencies and JT4G on 436.4 for this week. VY TNX & 73! Wei -- WEI Mingchuan Research Center of Satellite Technology Harbin Institute of Technology mobile: +86-189-4501-5242 e-mail: wmc_jx at 163.com; bg2bhc at gmail.com From fabianomoser at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 08:30:54 2018 From: fabianomoser at gmail.com (Fabiano Moser) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 09:30:54 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] [OffTopic-Sale] ICON IC-7700 HF Tranceiver for sale Message-ID: Dear friends, I apologize for the OffTopic, but for personal reasons and given the importance of the moment in my life I would like to share the information that I have for sale my IC-7700, and my Heil Pro 7 and still some material that was part of my ham radio station. If you know of any interested, just contact in private. As for the state of the equipment are all as new and without details to point. Thank you OM?s and sorry for the offtopic. Fabiano CT7ABD Lisbon From ea4gqs at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 10:49:49 2018 From: ea4gqs at gmail.com (Felix Paez EA4GQS) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:49:49 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] AM1SAT AMSAT EA callsign on air September 10-17 Message-ID: Dear friends, AMSAT EA will be on air on all available satellites with the callsign AM1SAT from September 10 to 17 to celebrate IberRadio 2018 - IV Radiocommunications Fair, the biggest HAM party event in Spain and Portugal (http://www.iberradio.es/en/), that will open its doors during the 15-16 weekend. Main grid will be IN70 but other ones will be activated as well. Our operators will work transatlantic QSOs too. QSLs by LOTW and eqsl Any questions, please write to contacto at amsat-ea.org best regards, F?lix P?ez EA4GQS - AMSAT EA From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Thu Jul 26 11:38:50 2018 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:38:50 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hi Ross, No you don't need to install AGWPE, there are also other options like UZ7HO sound-modem software. Scott has mentioned a block diagram that I made, have a look and see how far you can get with that. http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/ One final remark regarding telemetry reception, watch out because this is addictive ;-) 73 Jan PE0SAT On 26-07-2018 01:10, Ross Biggar wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for the comments. > > Would it be possible for you to give me more detailed information as > to what I need. > > I have looked at DL3WN's site, do I need to install AGWPE etc?? > > > Advice please > > > Best wishes > > Ross > > ZL1WN > > ________________________________ > From: Mark L. Hammond > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:49:17 AM > To: Ross Biggar > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data > > Great, Ross. Welcome to the addiction :) So many protocols/decoding > schemes/wearhouse/data collection methods. I suggest you can find a > wealth of information here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ Mike also > offers many software solutions for helping to collect and decode... > > Hope you enjoy this aspect of the hobby! I know I do...just not > enough radios, antennas, and computers to do them all ;) > > 73---Mark N8MH > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Ross Biggar > > wrote: > I am interested in downloading and decoding telemetry data from > various satellites. > > > The Fox satellites are easy, I can receive and decode them perfectly. > > I would like information on how to find software to decode the various > protocols such as 1k2, 4k2, 9k2 BPSK and 9k6/19k2 GMSK etc. > > > I have beams suitable for EME on 144 and 432 so receiving the > > satellites is no problem. > > > I hope someone can assist me. > > > Regards > > Ross > > ZL1WN > > > Amsat life member > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes > this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/ Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/ irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat From povern at yahoo.com Thu Jul 26 12:24:04 2018 From: povern at yahoo.com (Paul Overn) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenea Masts References: <2008559255.3327522.1532607844349.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2008559255.3327522.1532607844349@mail.yahoo.com> I know this isn't exactly satellite related, but I've asked for help in other places, and the feedback has been sparse. You guys have always been very helpful. I'm looking for a portable antenna mast that I can use between passes while satellite roving. I would like it to be able to go to at least 20', hold a 5 element M2 6 Meter yagi, be able to fit in a small truck and be portable.? I have looked at numerous military surplus masts, like at Go-vertical-usa, but they will not return any of my correspondence. I have looked into many "home brew" solutions, but I'm just not that handy. Anyone have any good sites I can go to for something that fits my needs? Thanks in advance for your help! Paul Overn KE0PBR Twitter: @KE0PBR `?.??.???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.. ><((((?> From skristof at etczone.com Thu Jul 26 13:17:44 2018 From: skristof at etczone.com (skristof at etczone.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 09:17:44 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur radio on TV Message-ID: <374c951b09369462417f027167402b43@etczone.com> At 3 pm EDT today Turner Classic Movies (TCM) is showing a short feature (10 min.) about amateur radio entitled "Radio Hams". The feature is from 1939. Could be fun to watch. Check your local listings. Steve AI9IN From marklhammond at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 13:45:03 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 09:45:03 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ross, I'm curious what rig(s) you are using? Jan and Scott both give good advice and pointers to very helpful information. Getting all the software decoders to work is like solving puzzles--some are big pieces and easy to assemble (Fox family, Funcube family!) and others can have 1,000 little pieces that can take quite a while to fit together. Be patient and enjoy the assembly! At the risk of making the waters even muddier, there is also MultiPSK to look into. Take time to explore each (AGWPE, UZ7HO, MultiPSK) as one might suit your specific needs and interests. 73, Mark N8MH On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:38 AM, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio wrote: > > Hi Ross, > > No you don't need to install AGWPE, there are also other options like > UZ7HO sound-modem software. > > Scott has mentioned a block diagram that I made, have a look and see how > far you can get with that. > > http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/decoding/block-diagram/ > > One final remark regarding telemetry reception, watch out because this is > addictive ;-) > > 73 Jan PE0SAT > > On 26-07-2018 01:10, Ross Biggar wrote: > >> Hi Mark, >> >> Thanks for the comments. >> >> Would it be possible for you to give me more detailed information as >> to what I need. >> >> I have looked at DL3WN's site, do I need to install AGWPE etc?? >> >> >> Advice please >> >> >> Best wishes >> >> Ross >> >> ZL1WN >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Mark L. Hammond >> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:49:17 AM >> To: Ross Biggar >> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Decoding telemetry data >> >> Great, Ross. Welcome to the addiction :) So many protocols/decoding >> schemes/wearhouse/data collection methods. I suggest you can find a >> wealth of information here: http://www.dk3wn.info/p/ Mike also >> offers many software solutions for helping to collect and decode... >> >> Hope you enjoy this aspect of the hobby! I know I do...just not >> enough radios, antennas, and computers to do them all ;) >> >> 73---Mark N8MH >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Ross Biggar >> > wrote: >> I am interested in downloading and decoding telemetry data from >> various satellites. >> >> >> The Fox satellites are easy, I can receive and decode them perfectly. >> >> I would like information on how to find software to decode the various >> protocols such as 1k2, 4k2, 9k2 BPSK and 9k6/19k2 GMSK etc. >> >> >> I have beams suitable for EME on 144 and 432 so receiving the >> >> satellites is no problem. >> >> >> I hope someone can assist me. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Ross >> >> ZL1WN >> >> >> Amsat life member >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes >> this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >> Opinions expressed >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >> of AMSAT-NA. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb >> > > -- > With regards PE0SAT > Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ > DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/ > Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/ > irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From johnv at frontier.com Thu Jul 26 03:20:22 2018 From: johnv at frontier.com (johnv at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 03:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91 7/25 from 2056 - 2108 UTC (1356 - 1408 PDT) References: <985465222.3151702.1532575222611.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <985465222.3151702.1532575222611@mail.yahoo.com> After that pass of SO-50 and AO-91 over CN87 I found my recorder was malfunctioning.???? Does anyone have a tape of the AO-91 overpass??? I have W7QL at 7/25 @ 2106 UTC.???? I would really appreciate it. Thank you, and I will be getting a better recorder with my issues of grabbing the whole callsign in one call. John N7AME Everett.???? From burns at fisher.cc Thu Jul 26 14:29:17 2018 From: burns at fisher.cc (Burns Fisher) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:29:17 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Roy is correct, and in fact that is that case on all OSes. I'm not totally sure whether there is a way to add new birds after the fact, but at worst you can re-install and specify a different data directory. It will ask for each satellite whether you want to install it. (You might as well get Cliff and E if it asks!) 73, Burns WB1FJ On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Roy Dean wrote: > Also, for the linux version at least, when you install it asks you if > you want to install specific spacecraft (I usually say yes to all of > them, including the ones that aren't in space yet). I'm sure there > is a way to add them after the fact, but never done it. You may want > to simply reinstall it and look out of that dialog that asks you if > you want to install the specific spacecraft (assuming it does that on > all platforms). > > > --Roy > > K3RLD > > > Ross, Are you using the latest version of FoxTelem? It should be 1.06r and > > should include support for all 5 Fox-1 satellites (AO-85, AO-91, > > AO-92, Fox-1Cliff, and RadFxSat-2 / Fox-1E). The latest version can be > > downloaded at http://www.amsat.org/tlm/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jul 24, > > 2018 at 9:19 PM, Ross Biggar > > wrote: > > >* Hi All, *> > > >* My Fox telem program is only showing AO-91 how can I get it to show > > the other satellites as well such as AO-92, so I can deload the data from > > that sat . *> > > > > > >* Regards *> > > >* Ross *> > > >* ZL1WN* > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k6vug at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 26 17:53:21 2018 From: k6vug at sbcglobal.net (k6vug at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91 7/25 from 2056 - 2108 UTC (1356 - 1408 PDT) In-Reply-To: <985465222.3151702.1532575222611@mail.yahoo.com> References: <985465222.3151702.1532575222611.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <985465222.3151702.1532575222611@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <272234231.2884928.1532627601562@mail.yahoo.com> Sorry to hear about the recorder malfunction, I would (again) suggest using an old smartphone, you can even save your audio/vidoe/picture files to your favorite cloud storage or transfer the audio file to your PC/tablet, over WiFi, and the price is great - FREE. For a hands-free background operation, just add a couple of cheap audio splitter cables (or make them yourself). Umeshk6vug On Thursday, July 26, 2018, 6:57:10 AM PDT, johnv at frontier.com wrote: After that pass of SO-50 and AO-91 over CN87 I found my recorder was malfunctioning.???? Does anyone have a tape of the AO-91 overpass??? I have W7QL at 7/25 @ 2106 UTC.???? I would really appreciate it. Thank you, and I will be getting a better recorder with my issues of grabbing the whole callsign in one call. John N7AME Everett.???? _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From stanzepa at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 26 23:50:59 2018 From: stanzepa at sbcglobal.net (Stan Horzepa) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 19:50:59 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Amateur radio on TV In-Reply-To: <374c951b09369462417f027167402b43@etczone.com> References: <374c951b09369462417f027167402b43@etczone.com> Message-ID: <3fd2722a-c392-b2f0-8fb9-6be7ad62f7c1@sbcglobal.net> If you missed it on TCM, it is also viewable on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BPcpQMbUPE 73, Stan, WA1LOU On 7/26/18 9:17 AM, skristof at etczone.com wrote: > At 3 pm EDT today Turner Classic Movies (TCM) is showing a short feature > (10 min.) about amateur radio entitled "Radio Hams". The feature is from > 1939. Could be fun to watch. > > Check your local listings. > > Steve AI9IN From k7trkradio at charter.net Fri Jul 27 00:21:17 2018 From: k7trkradio at charter.net (Ted Krempa) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:21:17 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Masts Message-ID: <005a01d4253f$bd0dc2b0$37294810$@charter.net> Hi Paul, Check out this listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/24-FOOT-FIBERGLASS-ANTENNA-TOWER-MAST-SECTIONS-POLE-POLES-USED-VERY-GOOD-6-pc/201598888053?hash=item2ef03ae875%3Ag%3AAt4AAOSwMHdXQzJ8&_sacat=0&_nkw=fiberglass+antenna+mast&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2060353.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xfiberglass+antenna+mast.TRS0.TSS0 These are excellent for portable and even permanent. They are mil spec so they will last a lifetime. Look at all the listings because prices are all over the map. Choose ones with free shipping. You may even find a set with an olive drab vinyl carrying bag. I even have a trailer hitch from Harbor Freight that has a piece of muffler pipe welded to it and it fits the fiberglass pole perfectly. You can put up 4-5 pieces and it does not move. On my permanent masts, I glue the pieces with Gorilla glue and paint them to protect from UV sun. GL and 73 Ted K7TRK -----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Paul Overn via AMSAT-BB Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 5:24 AM To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenea Masts I know this isn't exactly satellite related, but I've asked for help in other places, and the feedback has been sparse. You guys have always been very helpful. I'm looking for a portable antenna mast that I can use between passes while satellite roving. I would like it to be able to go to at least 20', hold a 5 element M2 6 Meter yagi, be able to fit in a small truck and be portable. I have looked at numerous military surplus masts, like at Go-vertical-usa, but they will not return any of my correspondence. I have looked into many "home brew" solutions, but I'm just not that handy. Anyone have any good sites I can go to for something that fits my needs? Thanks in advance for your help! Paul Overn KE0PBR Twitter: @KE0PBR `?.??.???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.. ><((((?> _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From aj9n at aol.com Fri Jul 27 02:02:45 2018 From: aj9n at aol.com (aj9n at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:02:45 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-27 02:00 UTC Message-ID: <164d979558f-c8c-5fea@webjas-vab157.srv.aolmail.net> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2018-07-27 02:00 UTC Quick list of scheduled contacts and events: ISS R&D Conference-San Francisco, CA, (CASIS#2), participating school Quest Institute for Quality Education, San Jose, CA, telebridge via VK5ZAI The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS The scheduled astronaut is Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Contract was successful: Thu 2018-07-26 20:22:10 UTC 48 deg (***) ? ? ****************************************************************************** ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.? ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send your reports to aj9n at amsat.org or aj9n at aol.com. ? Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz. ? ******************************************************************************* ? All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted. ? ******************************************************************************* Several?of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and not being able?to get in.? That has now been changed to? http://www.ariss.org/ Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this?site. **************************************************************************** Looking?for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??? If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete? details.? Look for the buttons indicating Ham?Video.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.ariss-eu.org/? ? ? If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke at sbcglobal.net **************************************************************************** ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100 schools:? Francesco IK?WGF with 132 Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 130 Gaston ON4WF with 123 Sergey RV3DR with 106 **************************************************************************** The?webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.? Out of date webpages?were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional ARISS?websites I need to know about, please let me know. Note, all times?are approximate.? It is recommended that you do your own orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed time. All dates and?times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and time format?YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2018-07-27 02:00 UTC.? (***) Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and?Echolink websites, and instructions for any contact that may be streamed?live.?? http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt Total number?of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1242. (***) Each school counts as 1?event. Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1190. (***) Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot. Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is?47. A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the file. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf Please?feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The?following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact: Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QSL?information may be found at:?? http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html? ISS callsigns:? DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,?RS?ISS **************************************************************************** The successful school list has been updated as of 2018-07-27 02:00 UTC. (***) http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf Frequency? chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing Doppler? correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction .rtf Listing?of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC. http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS?contacts https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415 **************************************************************************** Exp. 55 on orbit Drew Feustel Oleg Artemyev Ricky Arnold KE5DAU ? Exp. 56 on orbit Serena Aunon-Chancellor KG5TMT Alexander Gerst KF5ONO Sergei Propopev **************************************************************************** 73, Charlie?Sufana AJ9N One of the ARISS operation team mentors ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From ai6do at yahoo.com Fri Jul 27 04:44:30 2018 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 04:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-91 7/25 from 2056 - 2108 UTC (1356 - 1408 PDT) In-Reply-To: <272234231.2884928.1532627601562@mail.yahoo.com> References: <985465222.3151702.1532575222611.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <985465222.3151702.1532575222611@mail.yahoo.com> <272234231.2884928.1532627601562@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <842057602.3135460.1532666670676@mail.yahoo.com> John, I was on that pass and had a QSO with you just before Carlos W7QL, at least from my perspective. :-) Unfortunately, I didn't record my downlink audio, just my ambient audio.? I used to have a lot of trouble remembering calls and repeating them back correctly. What I found helped immensely is leaving my writing hand free so I can write down calls, grids, and QSO times in real time. My HT is clipped to my phone pouch on my belt, with the display facing up (toward my face) and the VFO knob readily accessible by my free hand for Doppler corrections. If I need a second HT, it's also on my belt or on a lanyard.?My phone, running the ISS Detector tracking app and a voice recorder app, is in an elastic arm band on my antenna arm. When I'm not transmitting, I write down calls and grids on Post-it notes that I've stuck to my cheatsheet. I can press the PTT button on my earpiece or headset while still holding the pen.? Another technique I use that I also found a huge help is an alphabetically arranged list of active satellite operators' calls and home grids. Whenever I hear a new call on the satellites, I add it to the list.?This list is particularly helpful when pulling out weak signals out of the noise. I can hold this list, which resides in a plastic sheet protector with a sheet of cardboard for stiffness, with my antenna hand.? Once I started doing these two things, I saw a huge, immediate improvement in my ability to keep up with fast-paced FM satellite operating. Now I rarely have to go back to the recording. I did have one failure of the recording app a week ago, when I was operating in the dark without enough ambient light to read or write. Now I make sure I have enough lighting to read and write, even if it means wearing an LED head lamp.? Hope this helps. Good luck! 73, Ryan AI6DO ? ? On Thursday, July 26, 2018, 6:57:10 AM PDT, johnv at frontier.com wrote:? After that pass of SO-50 and AO-91 over CN87 I found my recorder was malfunctioning.???? Does anyone have a tape of the AO-91 overpass??? I have W7QL at 7/25 @ 2106 UTC.???? I would really appreciate it. Thank you, and I will be getting a better recorder with my issues of grabbing the whole callsign in one call. John N7AME Everett.???? From ross.biggar at outlook.com Wed Jul 25 23:29:37 2018 From: ross.biggar at outlook.com (Ross Biggar) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 23:29:37 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem program In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: hi Paul, Yes I am using the latest version, it initially started with all the satellites but after I downloaded the first "lot" from AO91, the rest were "lost" regards Ross ZL1WN ________________________________ From: prstoetzer at gmail.com on behalf of Paul Stoetzer Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:45:25 AM To: Ross Biggar Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem program Ross, Are you using the latest version of FoxTelem? It should be 1.06r and should include support for all 5 Fox-1 satellites (AO-85, AO-91, AO-92, Fox-1Cliff, and RadFxSat-2 / Fox-1E). The latest version can be downloaded at http://www.amsat.org/tlm/ 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Ross Biggar wrote: > Hi All, > > My Fox telem program is only showing AO-91 how can I get it to show the other satellites as well such as AO-92, so I can deload the data from that sat . > > > Regards > > Ross > > ZL1WN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From jim at milnet.uk.net Fri Jul 27 16:57:43 2018 From: jim at milnet.uk.net (Jim Heck) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 17:57:43 +0100 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73/FUNcube-1 Operations Message-ID: <4299679397F54AA4A27AEDBD88B62C48@jimPC2> Hi All, The spacecraft is now operating in continuous transponder mode. Plan is to switch to Educational mode on Sunday PM UTC as usual. Have fun 73 Jim G3WGM and the FUNCube team From mspencer12345 at yahoo.ca Fri Jul 27 18:30:54 2018 From: mspencer12345 at yahoo.ca (Mark Spencer) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:30:54 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re Masts Message-ID: <927739A1-1925-441E-BCE8-C369FBD40EC6@yahoo.ca> Sorry for sending this to the group but I can't figure out what the email address is of individual who had questions re portable masts. I'm sorry to hear of your troubles contacting Go Vertical USA. I've had no issues contacting them, ordering things from them and getting the orders shipped to Canada. I have purchased all most all of my mast sections locally in VE7land but Go Vertical USA does have some nice accessories that make things work much better in my experience. I've used these masts a fair bit for VHF congesting with beams and other applications. Feel free to contact me off list if you want. 73 Mark S VE7AFZ mspencer12345 at yahoo.ca From povern at yahoo.com Fri Jul 27 18:36:02 2018 From: povern at yahoo.com (Paul Overn) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 18:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenea Masts In-Reply-To: <2008559255.3327522.1532607844349@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2008559255.3327522.1532607844349.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2008559255.3327522.1532607844349@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <407357774.297935.1532716562379@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to all for the responses. I received more information then I could have hoped for. So now come the fun part: Research. Seems that most use the military masts, but there are some other suppliers that really look interesting.? I have a summary of the information you have sent me. If I missed someone or something, I'm sorry, but with all the emails coming in I was a bit overwhelmed. ? Stephan Green:? ? Penningers Radio Aluminum Masts: https://www.penningerradio.com/index.asp? ? KiCRA: Interesting Stuff: http://www.k1cra.com?? ? Specifically: http://www.k1cra.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MAST21B (? Christy Hunter: MFG Fiberglass collapsible masts? Terry Osborn: Clark Masts (British) http://www.clarkmasts.com/products/telescopic-masts/? Ted Krempa: Ebay Fiberglass Military Surplus Masts:? ? Also explained how to do a hitch mount? Robert Bragg: More Military Masts: Explained Pros and Cons? Robert Bankston: Spiderbeam USA Aluminum Mast? David Jaeger: Aluminum Flagpole Kit From Harbor Freight? John (N7AME) More Military Surplus Http://www.tmastco.com/main/page_products_mast_sections.html? Butch Alline: Power company "hot Sticks"??? Gerald Witalic: More Military Surplus??? Joe's Army Navy Surplus | Military Surplus, Outdoor and Tactical Gear? Don (KB2YSI): Spiderbeam and Penningerradio Paul Overn KE0PBR Twitter: @KE0PBR `?.??.???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.. ><((((?> On Thursday, July 26, 2018, 7:24:04 AM CDT, Paul Overn wrote: I know this isn't exactly satellite related, but I've asked for help in other places, and the feedback has been sparse. You guys have always been very helpful. I'm looking for a portable antenna mast that I can use between passes while satellite roving. I would like it to be able to go to at least 20', hold a 5 element M2 6 Meter yagi, be able to fit in a small truck and be portable.? I have looked at numerous military surplus masts, like at Go-vertical-usa, but they will not return any of my correspondence. I have looked into many "home brew" solutions, but I'm just not that handy. Anyone have any good sites I can go to for something that fits my needs? Thanks in advance for your help! Paul Overn KE0PBR Twitter: @KE0PBR `?.??.???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.. ><((((?> From nj1h at comcast.net Fri Jul 27 20:49:26 2018 From: nj1h at comcast.net (Bill Bordy, NJ1H ) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 16:49:26 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Masts In-Reply-To: <407357774.297935.1532716562379@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2008559255.3327522.1532607844349.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2008559255.3327522.1532607844349@mail.yahoo.com> <407357774.297935.1532716562379@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I use two old fiberglass windsurfer masts hose clamped together. See the photo at the bottom of my QRZ page. I have been using this setup for years on 6M with no issues. It does bend in the high wind, but that is what windsurfer masts do. This was to be a temporary thing, but it keeps working. I did take it down before one hurricane here, but not that difficult with two people. I picked the masts up at a garage sale. The old fat ones are obsolete, so if you can find them, you may get a deal also. Each mast is about 16 feet. I have about 8 feet of overlap. The bottom mast is in my deck mounted rotator which is at the base of the roof style tripod. The rotator is used with a aluminum sleeve bearing in the tripod to minimize mast movement at the rotator when the mast flexes. If I use a more expensive rotator, I might add a thrust bearing at the top of the tripod to take additional weight and bending load off of the rotator. Regardless of my implementation, it is a quick and inexpensive way to get a portable 6M antenna in the air. Bill NJ1H On 7/27/2018 2:36 PM, Paul Overn via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Thanks to all for the responses. I received more information then I could have hoped for. So now come the fun part: Research. Seems that most use the military masts, but there are some other suppliers that really look interesting.? > I have a summary of the information you have sent me. If I missed someone or something, I'm sorry, but with all the emails coming in I was a bit overwhelmed. > ? Stephan Green:? ? Penningers Radio Aluminum Masts: https://www.penningerradio.com/index.asp? ? KiCRA: Interesting Stuff: http://www.k1cra.com?? ? Specifically: http://www.k1cra.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MAST21B (? Christy Hunter: MFG Fiberglass collapsible masts? Terry Osborn: Clark Masts (British) http://www.clarkmasts.com/products/telescopic-masts/? Ted Krempa: Ebay Fiberglass Military Surplus Masts:? ? Also explained how to do a hitch mount? Robert Bragg: More Military Masts: Explained Pros and Cons? Robert Bankston: Spiderbeam USA Aluminum Mast? David Jaeger: Aluminum Flagpole Kit From Harbor Freight? John (N7AME) More Military Surplus Http://www.tmastco.com/main/page_products_mast_sections.html? Butch Alline: Power company "hot Sticks"??? Gerald Witalic: More Military Surplus??? Joe's Army Navy Surplus | Military Surplus, Outdoor and Tactical Gear? Don (KB2YSI): Spiderbeam and Penningerradio > > Paul Overn > KE0PBR > Twitter: @KE0PBR > `?.??.???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.. ><((((?> > > > On Thursday, July 26, 2018, 7:24:04 AM CDT, Paul Overn wrote: > > I know this isn't exactly satellite related, but I've asked for help in other places, and the feedback has been sparse. You guys have always been very helpful. > I'm looking for a portable antenna mast that I can use between passes while satellite roving. I would like it to be able to go to at least 20', hold a 5 element M2 6 Meter yagi, be able to fit in a small truck and be portable.? > I have looked at numerous military surplus masts, like at Go-vertical-usa, but they will not return any of my correspondence. I have looked into many "home brew" solutions, but I'm just not that handy. > > Anyone have any good sites I can go to for something that fits my needs? > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > Paul Overn > KE0PBR > Twitter: @KE0PBR > `?.??.???`?.. ><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.. ><((((?> > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From wd9get at amsat.org Fri Jul 27 22:36:28 2018 From: wd9get at amsat.org (Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 17:36:28 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA on the Air - NASA 60th Anniversary Message-ID: This week the Johnson Space Center Club is on the air as part of the NASA on the Air (NOTA) year-long special event. We are currently one of 12 NASA club stations participating in the event. Throughout the year, we will be continuously operating in celebration of a variety of significant NASA milestones. For July, we will be operating to commemorate the 60th anniversary of President Dwight D Eisenhower's July 29th, 1958, signing of the Space Act which established the creation of NASA. During this week, the JSCARC will be heavily operating on 10/15/20/40/80 m bands and also satellites. A commemorative 1958 vacuum tube vintage station will be activated consisting of a Johnson Ranger/Courier and a Hammarlund HQ145C, courtesy of one of our members, K5RG. This station will be used to make CW, SSB, and AM QSOs. In addition, our other shack radios will sue SSB, FT8, FM, CW, and SSTV to make contacts on all bands. A special 60th Anniversary QSL card (designed by AB5SS) will be available with an SASE for contacts made. A QSL card can be received only if you send an SASE to our address listed on our website (w5rrr.org), or QRZ.com. There will be a special certificate issued for top stations that work modes and bands across the NOTA NASA centers. Each of the other NASA stations will be issuing their own special QSL cards as well. For more information on this and NOTA, see NASAontheAir.wordpress.com. 73, Keith WD9GET From wa7dxz at aol.com Sat Jul 28 19:23:04 2018 From: wa7dxz at aol.com (wa7dxz) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:23:04 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Voting Message-ID: <20180728192312.E0791879A@lansing182.amsat.org> Got my new ballot today, voted, mailed it in.As a point of curiosity, of our total membership, what percentage, or how many people, return ballots or vote.Bob LucasWa7dxzDm33 Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone From n8hm at arrl.net Sat Jul 28 19:28:10 2018 From: n8hm at arrl.net (Paul Stoetzer) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 15:28:10 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Voting In-Reply-To: <20180728192312.E0791879A@lansing182.amsat.org> References: <20180728192312.E0791879A@lansing182.amsat.org> Message-ID: Last year 695 ballots were cast out of about 3,000 mailed (I don?t have that precise figure handy). 73, Paul, N8HM On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 15:23 wa7dxz via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > Got my new ballot today, voted, mailed it in.As a point of curiosity, of > our total membership, what percentage, or how many people, return ballots > or vote.Bob LucasWa7dxzDm33 > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From k9jkm at comcast.net Sun Jul 29 00:04:03 2018 From: k9jkm at comcast.net (JoAnne K9JKM) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 19:04:03 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-210 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins Message-ID: <3a32136d-879e-76fc-864e-0d2b087acb1d@comcast.net> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-210 The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor- mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-editor at amsat.org. You can sign up for free e-mail delivery of the AMSAT News Service Bulletins via the ANS List; to join this list see: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/ans In this edition: * OSCAR Number Administrator William ?Bill? Tynan, W3XO Steps Down, ? Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, named AMSAT OSCAR Number Administrator * Lee McLamb, KT4TZ, Senior Editor, AMSAT News Service Steps Down * 2018 36th AMSAT Symposium & Banquet Registration Now on AMSAT * Changes to the AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution of 7-26-2018 * AMSAT Awards Update * AMSAT Web - Upcoming Satellite Operations Page has a New Manager * ARISS News Release No. 18-09 Announcing Russian Slow Scan TV Event * K8BL Roving Trip To AK BP64 * Upcoming Satellite Operations * CAMSAT CAS-6 Satellite Receives IARU Frequency Coordination * ExseedSat Cubesat Applies for IARU Frequency Coordination * South Africa Radio Amateurs Aiming to Link up with Scientists * Satellite Shorts From All Over SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-210.01 ANS-210 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins AMSAT News Service Bulletin 210.01 From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD. July 29, 2018 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-210.01 OSCAR Number Administrator William ?Bill? Tynan, W3XO Steps Down, Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, named AMSAT OSCAR Number Administrator William ?Bill? Tynan, W3XO has stepped down as the AMSAT OSCAR Number Administrator citing poor health. Bill has been granting applicants who qualify OSCAR numbers for over two decades since the late-1990?s. Even Bill cannot remember the first number he issued, but believes it was either TO-31 or SO-35. In any case, he has issued at least 57 OSCAR numbers. This is over 60%, or very close to two-thirds, of all the OSCAR numbers issued. I want to thank Bill for his many dedicated years of service to AMSAT. I have named Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, AMSAT Vice-President, Operations of New Port Richey, FL as the AMSAT OSCAR Number Administrator. Ever since the launch of OSCAR 1 in 1961, it has been traditional for amateur radio satellites to carry the name OSCAR, for ?Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio?. At the request of the original Project OSCAR organization, AMSAT-NA now administers the numbering of OSCAR satellites according to the following policy. The International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) and AMSAT-NA have adopted the paper Information for Developers of Satellites Planned to Use Frequency Bands Allocated to the Amateur-Satellite Service, which can be found on the IARU satellite frequency coordination page. The following requirements must be satisfied in order to obtain an OSCAR designation: 1) The spacecraft?s use of frequencies in the amateur bands must have ?? been coordinated before launch through established IARU/AMSAT ?? frequency coordination. 2) The spacecraft must have successfully achieved orbit and/or have been ?? successfully deployed. 3) Once in orbit, one or more transmitters must have been successfully ?? activated in the amateur satellite service. 4) After the above requirements have been met, the organization or ? organizations which are the builders/owners of the spacecraft must ? request that AMSAT-NA assign a consecutive OSCAR number to the space ? craft as follows: ? a) The request must be in writing (e-mail or fax is acceptable also) ???? and be signed by the chief executive officer of the organization ???? making the request. If more than one organization was responsible ???? for building/owning the spacecraft, all must participate in this ???? request. ? b) The request must certify that the above three requirements have been ???? met. ? c) In addition, it must certify that the organization or organizations ???? making the request are familiar with the IARU paper referred to above, ???? and that the spacecraft?s operation in the amateur satellite service ???? is and will remain consistent with the intent of this IARU paper, and ???? the laws of the responsible national administration. ?? d) The request must specify the country under whose laws the spacecraft ????? is operating. ?? e) It is customary to refer to OSCAR satellites by a hyphenated name, ????? of which the first part is typically selected by the owner/builder, ????? e.g., UoSAT-OSCAR 11. For some purposes, such as Keplerian tracking ????? bulletins, such names are commonly abbreviated to initials, e.g., ????? UO-11. The request should indicate preferred name in this format; ????? AMSAT-NA will assign the number. ?? f) The request should be addressed to the Board of Directors of ????? AMSAT-NA at: ????? Email: bod at amsat.org ????? or post at: ????? Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA) ????? 10605 Concord St, #304 ????? Kensington, MD 20895 5) In the case of multiple payloads sharing the same booster, the ?? amateur radio satellite that is placed into orbit first (first ?? off the launch stack) will normally receive the earlier OSCAR number. Please note that there is no requirement for an OSCAR number to be assigned to a satellite in order for it to be legitimately recognized and used in the amateur satellite service. However OSCAR numbers are a proud tradition of amateur radio, one that we hope to keep going for many years to come. [ANS thanks Joe Spier, K6WAO AMSAT-NA President for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lee McLamb, KT4TZ, Senior Editor, AMSAT News Service Steps Down Lee McLamb, KT4TZ, Senior Editor, AMSAT News Service has resigned after many years producing and shepherding the weekly ANS. As I came from being an ANS weekly Rotating Editor, I know what dedication it takes to produce the ANS. I want to thank Lee for his over 15 of service to AMSAT, including his roles as AMSAT Executive Vice President, and BOD alternates. If you would like to help AMSAT by becoming an ANS rotating editor, please contact me at:?? k6wao at amsat.org [ANS thanks Joe Spier, K6WAO AMSAT-NA President for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2018 36th AMSAT Symposium & Banquet Registration Now on AMSAT Registrations and Banquet tickets are available on the AMSAT Store for the 2018 36th AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting and the Banquet. The Symposium and Banquet will be held in Huntsville, Alabama on November 2-4. The venue is the US Space and Rocket Center. Registration for the Symposium is $60 through September 30th, $65 through October 26th, and $70 at the door. Banquet tickets are $50, please provide your callsign, name and name of your guest in the notes section of the AMSAT store checkout. The Banquet will be held under the rocket in the Saturn V hall. For more information on the Symposium as well as information and a link to the hotel. Please see: https://www.amsat.org/amsat-symposium/ [ANS thanks 2018 AMSAT Symposium Committee for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Changes to the AMSAT-NA TLE Distribution of 7-26-2018 The two cubesats from the ISS deployment of April 13,2018 have been identified and have been renamed as follows: Object NZ - NORAD CAT ID 43551 is now EnduroSat One Object PA - NORAD CAT ID 43552 is now EQUISat Per Nico Janssen (PA0DLO): Detailed doppler measurements show that EnduroSat One (downlink 437.050 MHz) is object 43551 (1998-067NZ) and EQUiSat (downlink 435.550 MHz) is object 43552 (1998-067PA). No signals received from MemSat (downlink 437.350 MHz) and RadSat-g (downlink 437.425 MHz). [ANS thanks Ray, WA5QGD, AMSAT Keplerian Elements Manager for ?the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Awards Update Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director Contests and Awards reports, "Since my last post and actually since the beginning of 2018, I have been posting all the Rover Awards on my Twitter account and tagging @AMSAT. I will include all the Rover Awards here for those that do not have Twitter." AMSAT Satellite Communicators Award for making their first satellite QSO Thomas Hetland, DL8DXW Bernd Preusker, DO1UB German School Club Station DL0IKT German School Club Station DL0TSD Daivd Dean, AE7ID Adam Donahue, KE0JWQ Mitchell Ahrenstoff, AD0HJ Stephen Szabo, WB4OMM Michael Clark, N4WQH ------ AMSAT Communications Achievement Award David Stanley, WI4L, #580 Randy Kohlwey, WI7P, #581 (This is Randy's Second go around after moving his QTH) Marissa Robledo 11-year old, W4AQT, #582 Paul Overn, KE0PBR, #583 Mitchell Ahrenstorff, AD0HJ, #584 ------ AMSAT South Africa Satellite Communications Achievement Award David Stanley, WI4L, #US206 Marissa Robledo? 11-year old, W4AQT, #US207 Paul Overn, KE0PBR, #US208 ------ AMSAT Sexagesimal Award Randy Kohlway, WI7P, #182 (This is Randy's Second go around after moving his QTH) ------ AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Award Adrian Liggins, VA3NNA, #95 Steve Nordahl, NS3L, #96 ------ AMSAT Rover Award (New for 2018) Rover????? Call =====????? ======== 001??????? AC0RA 002??????? WD9EWK 003??????? NJ4Y 004??????? M0IDA 005??????? KG5GJT 006??????? EB1AO 007??????? N7AGF 008??????? N4YHC 009??????? W0S 010??????? KE0PBR 011??????? K5IX 012??????? AK4WQ 013??????? WI7P 014??????? K5ND 015??????? N6UA 016??????? N9IP 017??????? N4UFO 018??????? K7TAB 019??????? K8BL 020??????? AD0DX 021??????? HB9WDF 022??????? KE4AL 023??????? KE9AJ 024??????? AA8CH 025??????? WY7AA 026??????? KE8FZT 027??????? KX9X [ANS thanks Bruce Paige, KK5DO, AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ?for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT Web - Upcoming Satellite Operations Page has a New Manager Robert Bankston, KE4AL, is now managing the news on AMSAT-NA's Upcoming Satellite Operates webpage: https://www.amsat.org/satellite-info/upcoming-satellite-operations/ Robert has posted a handful of upcoming GridExpeditions, with more coming as stations finalize their operating plans. If you are planning a roving trip, please email Robert a brief description at ke4al at yahoo.com, so he can make sure your announce- ment is publicized. Check the Upcoming Satellite Operations page often for the latest satellite rover operating announcements. [ANS thanks Robert, KE4AL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ARISS News Release No. 18-09 Announcing Russian Slow Scan TV Event July 27, 2018: ARISS Russia is planning another of their popular MAI Slow Scan Television (SSTV) experiment events. Transmissions are scheduled to begin at 16:00 UTC on July 30, then powered down at 19:30 UTC. The next day (July 31), the system will be active from 13:25-19:15 UTC. Downlink should be on the traditional 145.80 MHz frequency and the operating mode will likely be PD120. When this event becomes active, SSTV images are downlinked from the International Space Station (ISS) at the frequency of 145.80 MHz and can be received using ham radio equipment as simple as a 2 meter handheld radio or a common scanner receiver the covers the 2 meter ham band. After connecting the audio output of the radio receiver into the audio input of a computer running free software such as MMSSTV, the SSTV images can be displayed. Please note that the event is dependent on other activities, schedules and crew responsibilities on the ISS and are subject to change at any time. Please check for news and the most current information on the AMSAT.org and ARISS.org websites, the AMSAT-BB at amsat.org, the ARISS facebook at Amateur Radio On The International Space Station (ARISS) and ARISS twitter @ARISS_status. About ARISS Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that support the International Space Station (ISS).? In the United States, sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the Center for the Advancement of Science in space (CASIS) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For more information, see www.ariss.org. Also join us on Facebook:? Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) Follow us on Twitter:? ARISS_status Dave Jordan, AA4KN ARISS PR aa4kn at amsat.org [ANS thanks Dave Jordan, AA4KN, ARISS PR for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- K8BL Roving Trip To AK BP64 Bob, K8BL is heading to Alaska on a "Bucket Trip" starting August 2 to Fairbanks until August 8. Bob wrote, "I'll be taking my regular Rover Gear - IC820H & Arrow w/tripod. I plan to activate BP64 and a couple nearby Grids - holiday style. That means I'll pop up on various Satellites with no strict schedule other than a Twitter Message with a few hours notice. I log as K8BL/KL7 and will upload to LoTW upon my return." Other destinations on Bob's trip include Alaska being his 43rd State visited; 2) Arctic Circle; 3) Denali Visit; 4) 112th Grid activated and hopefully more; 5) Northern Lights - KYFC; 6) Almost Midnight Sun [ANS thanks Bob, K8TL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming Satellite Operations Kauai, Hawaii (BL01 and BL02) ? July 25 through August 2, 2018 Justin, K5EM, is heading to Kauai for a vacation. While there he will focus on linear satellites from BL01, BL02, and the BL01/BL02 gridline. Justin has posted a few tips on his Twitter page, which is publicly viewable at https://twitter.com/k5em, to help him and you increase your chances of making a contact. MN & ND (EN37, EN38/EN28, EN18/EN08, EN07/EN17, EN27) ? July 27-30, 2018 KE4AL, will be visiting his in-laws in Hibbing, MN.? While there, Robert will introduce his father-in-law, George KE0GXQ, to satellites and the art of roving.? Plan is to practice in EN37, then head out Saturday to activate EN38/28, EN18/EN08 and EN07/EN17.? After overnighting in Grand Forks, ND, they stop in EN27, before arriving back in EN37 on Sunday. Satellite passes will include both FM and linears, with specific pass announcements posted on Twitter, viewable publicly at https://twitter.com/KE4ALabama Nova Scotia (FN65 and FN67) ? August 2-5, 2018 Brent, VY2HF will be operating from FN65 August 2-3 and FN67 August 3-5. Pass announcements will be posted to Twitter, publicly viewable at https://twitter.com/vy2hf Bonneville Salt Flats, UT (DN30) ? August 10-17, 2018 R.J., WY7AA, is heading to Speedweek at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. Enroute and while there, he also plans to activate DN51, DN41, DN40, and DN20).? Specific pass announcements will be posted to Twitter, publicly viewable at https://twitter.com/WY7AA Vancouver Island/Olympia National Park (CO60, CO70, CN79) ? August 12-13, 2018. Ron, AD0DX, will be in the Vancouver / Vancouver Island area and at Olympia National Park. He will make a special trip to CO60 on Sunday Aug 12th evening and in Campbell River, BC for 24 hours over Aug 12 and 13 so there should be lots of opportunities for CO70 and CO79. More information is available on AD0DX?s QRZ page, to include planned grid activation for his return trip home.? Updates will be posted on Twitter, publicly viewable at https://twitter.com/ad0dx Santa Rosa Island (CM93 and CM94) ? August 20-22, 2018 Ron, AD0DX, using the call sign W6R, will be operating from Santa Rosa Island in the Channel Islands August 20-22 to activate grid square CM93, with a few passes from the CM93/CM94 grid line.? Ron will be mainly active on the FM satellites AO-91, AO-92 and SO-50. Just learning to operate on the linear birds, he hopes to be active on FO-29, CAS-4A and CAS-4B.? More information is available on AD0DX?s QRZ page, with updates while on the island will be posted on Twitter, publicly viewable at https://twitter.com/ad0dx Please submit any additions or corrections to ke4al at yahoo.com [ANS thanks Robert Bankston, KE4AL for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- CAMSAT CAS-6 Satellite Receives IARU Frequency Coordination Alan Kung, BA1DU reported that CAMSAT plans to launch CAS-6, a 50 kg micro-satellite approx. 490 x 499 x 430 mm. A sea launch is planned for September, 2018 from the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology into a 579 x 579 km 45 degree orbit. The mission will include: + VHF CW Telemetry Beacon + U/V Mode 20 kHz Linear Transponder + AX.25 4.8k baud GMSK telemetry downlink + Deployable Antennas + Solar Panels, Lithium ion battery and power controller + Integrated Housekeeping Unit + Three-axis stabilization system + Atmospheric Wind detector + S-band TT&C system (non-amateur radio band) + X-band Data link system (non-amateur radio band) The following frequencies have been coordinated by the IARU: + VHF/UHF linear transponder ? Uplink:??? 435.280 MHz ? Downlink:? 145.925 MHz + CW telemetry beacon: 145.910 MHz, + Telemetry: 145.890 MHz http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=622 [ANS thanks CAMSAT, IARU, and AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ExseedSat Cubesat Applies for IARU Frequency Coordination Ashar Farhan, VU2ESE, Exseed Space Innovations Pvt, Ltd. reported that ExseedSat, a 1U cubesat that will provide a multifunction UHF/VHF Narrow-Band FM (NBFM) amateur communication satellite is planned for a SpaceX launch from Vandenberg in October 2018. ExseedSat is a 1U cubesat that will provide a multifunction UHF/VHF NBFM amateur communication satellite with various configurable modes, including: + UHF to VHF, single channel, narrow band FM transponder with ? CTCSS, 67 Hz squelch + VHF to UHF, single channel, narrow band FM transponder with ? CTCSS, 67 Hz squelch + Power output selectable between 1 watt and 0.5 watt + Digipeat feature with APRS on UHF uplink and VHF downlink + Melody mode : It will play a simple melody of a few notes on ? special occasions or events. Planned orbital life of two years, depending upon how long the battery lasts and when the satellite de-orbits naturally. http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=636 [ANS thanks Ashar Farhan, VU2ESE, IARU, and AMSAT-UK for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- South Africa Radio Amateurs Aiming to Link up with Scientists July 26th, 2018, Published in Articles: EngineerIT by Hans van de Groenendaal, ZS6AKV, features editor, EngineerIT Two South African amateur radio associations, the South African Radio League (SARL) and AMSAT SA, are planning to launch an umbrella associ- ation that will link up with scientists in various electronic and physics disciplines to enhance research opportunities. The two organ- isations are currently involved in propagation research on 5 MHz, and a study of the rapid increases in the radio frequency noise floor, its causes and possible mitigation, and the possible slowing down of the noise pollution which will ultimately render the radio spectrum useless for communication, particularly for weak signal communication. The new organisation will be known as Amateur Radio Science Citizen Investigation, or HamSCI SA. It is based on the successful HamSCI which has been operating in the US and the UK for several years. The concept of HamSCI was started by US scientists who study upper atmospheric and space physics and who are also licensed radio amateurs. HamSCI SA will be a platform for the publicity and promotion of citizen science projects. The SARL and AMSAT SA invite interested persons to join the HamSCI SA initiative and offer their expertise. ?It will work two ways?, says SARL president, Nico van Rensburg. ?It will create interesting activities for radio amateurs, in particularly for the new generation of young people who have been bitten by the ?radio bug? but need more challenges than just communications. For the scientific community it means that they can involve many more people in their projects and make a contribution to make science popular.? Access the entire article and graphics at: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-210-SouthAfricaScience (http://www.ee.co.za) [ANS thanks AMSAT SA and Hans van de Groenendaal, ZS6AKV for the above information] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Satellite Shorts From All Over + The Turner Classic Movies (TCM) has been showing a short feature ?(10 min.) about amateur radio entitled "Radio Hams". The feature ?is from 1939. If you missed it on TCM, it is also viewable on YouTube: ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BPcpQMbUPE + ExoMars Rover Naming Competition! ? The UK Space Agency has launched a competition to name a rover ? that is going to Mars to search for signs of life. ESA's 2020 ? ExoMars rover is due to land on Mars in the spring of 2021 after ? launch on a Roscosmos Proton launcher. The ExoMars rover will ? carry a drill and a suite of instruments dedicated to exobiology ? and geochemistry research. The ExoMars rover competition is being ? run by the UK Space Agency. Complete your entry form on-line at: https://events.airbus.com/ereg/newreg.php?eventid=200179103& ? (via ESA amd UK Space Agency) + AMSAT EA will be on air on all available satellites with the ? callsign AM1SAT from September 10 to 17 to celebrate IberRadio ? 2018 - IV Radiocommunications Fair, the biggest HAM party event ? in Spain and Portugal (http://www.iberradio.es/en/), that will ? open its doors during the 15-16 weekend. Main grid will be IN70 ? but other ones will be activated as well. Our operators will work ? transatlantic QSOs too. QSLs by LOTW and eqsl. Any questions, ? please write to contacto (at) amsat-ea.org ? (via F?lix P?ez EA4GQS - AMSAT EA) + WI9LL has designed clips for use with the Arrow II Portable hand ? held satellite antenna that can be fabricated on your 3D printer. ? The .stl files can be found on Thingiverse at the following links: ? RG58 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2838880 ? RG8X and LMR240 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2839035 http://wi9ll.com/arrow-ii-portable-satellite-antenna-clips/ + "Crazy Danish Hacker" has posted a new video on his YouTube channel ? that shows how to pick up amateur radio voice signals from the ? International Space Station (ISS). In his video he uses a telescopic ? whip attached directly to his RTL-SDR which is placed outside with ? a view of the sky. See: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-210-RTL-SDR + An article "Send APRS data/telemetry via Xastir command line" may ? be of interest to Linux packet users: ? http://tinyurl.com/ANS-210-XASTR-PacketCommand + Although the HAMTV DVB-S video transmission system aboard the ISS ? is temporarily out of service this article will show you how to ? receive the signal with an RTL-SDR (and other equipment) when the ? video transmissions resume: http://tinyurl.com/ANS-210-HamTV-SDR --------------------------------------------------------------------- /EX In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi- tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu- dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status. Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership information. 73 and remember to help keep amateur radio in space, and behave. This week's ANS Editor, JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM k9jkm at amsat dot org From n4csitwo at bellsouth.net Sun Jul 29 02:54:07 2018 From: n4csitwo at bellsouth.net (David Jordan) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Lighting up EL-84 Sunday Message-ID: I can't say I'll be on air for sure, but I'm heading over to EL-84 on Sunday July 29 and plan to be active on SO-50 on the 15:57 UTC pass and AO-91 on the 17:26 UTC pass. Hope to make a few QSOs while there. Dave, AA4KN Get Outlook for Android From vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in Sun Jul 29 07:33:37 2018 From: vu3tyg at yahoo.co.in (Nitin Muttin) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 07:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] Required- ICOM 821H Main Board References: <85935496.3414401.1532849617153.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <85935496.3414401.1532849617153@mail.yahoo.com> Hi All, My ICOM 821H Main board is fried due to some surge coming thru the ACC socket. Looking for a main board.Please contact me direct if anyone has this available. 73 Nitin [VU3TYG] From py4zbz at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 18:35:46 2018 From: py4zbz at yahoo.com (Roland Zurmely) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 18:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [amsat-bb] JT4G signal from DSLWP in lunar orbit decoded! References: <1821074190.4021837.1532889346731.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1821074190.4021837.1532889346731@mail.yahoo.com> <> 73 de Roland PY4ZBZ From w5acm at swbell.net Sun Jul 29 23:40:36 2018 From: w5acm at swbell.net (Andy) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 18:40:36 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Andy at the Austin Summerfest Message-ID: <001901d42795$8de32130$a9a96390$@swbell.net> Prime Time in the Big Room. Check the Specs on the AMSAT Technical Session for next Saturday at the Austin Texas Summerfest! http://www.austinsummerfest.org/index.php/technical-sessions/58-amsat.html C U there, Andy W5ACM From kf5dzq at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 01:41:46 2018 From: kf5dzq at gmail.com (Gary MacGregor (KF5DZQ)) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 20:41:46 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] [BLT] Andy at the Austin Summerfest In-Reply-To: <001901d42795$8de32130$a9a96390$@swbell.net> References: <001901d42795$8de32130$a9a96390$@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hello Andy and The Gang! I would like to meet up with the BLT at ASF. Diana and I will both be there promoting the STH. Friday after lunch and a visit to the SOC. Then meet up with Jeff & Lori in the Hospitality Suite. And then for the event on Saturday of course. Someone give me a call either day so I can meet up with the team....put faces with the names. Drop me a line 361-947-5665 73 Gary MacGregor KF5DZQ Diana MacGregor K5DNG On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Andy wrote: > Prime Time in the Big Room? > > Check the Specs on the AMSAT Technical Session for next Saturday at the > Austin Texas Summerfest! > > > > http://www.austinsummerfest.org/index.php/technical-sessions/58-amsat.html > > > > C U there, > > Andy W5ACM > > > _._,_._,_ > ------------------------------ > Groups.io Links: > > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#26) | Reply To > Group > > | Reply To Sender > > | Mute This Topic | New Topic > > > Your Subscription | Contact > Group Owner | Unsubscribe > [kf5dzq at gmail.com] > _._,_._,_ > > -- Thank you, Gary MacGregor KF5DZQ Cell 361-947-5665 *Click here to subscribe to the South Texas Hamfest NEWSLETTER !* http://southtexashamfest.org/ South Texas Hamfest - Texas Fastest Growing Hamfest - October 20, 2018 - Pre-Registration Discounts available. https://www.qrz.com/db/KF5DZQ https://www.facebook.com/KF5DZQ/ https://www.etsy.com/shop/MacsMiscMerchandise *http://www.alienpartscompany.com/ham.htm * Sent from my Commodore Vic 20 From jim at k6ccc.org Mon Jul 30 03:30:00 2018 From: jim at k6ccc.org (Jim Walls) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 20:30:00 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] JT4G signal from DSLWP in lunar orbit decoded! In-Reply-To: <1821074190.4021837.1532889346731@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1821074190.4021837.1532889346731.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1821074190.4021837.1532889346731@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 7/29/2018 11:35 AM, Roland Zurmely via AMSAT-BB wrote: > <> Roland, Is the camera image at the bottom of the page one that you captured and decoded? (sorry, I can't read the text of the page) -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim at k6ccc.org Ofc: 818-548-4804 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/ AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395 From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jul 30 14:20:13 2018 From: kb2m at arrl.net (jeff griffin) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 10:20:13 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] 9100 PAT with satellites In-Reply-To: <1530485129608602508.7026@groups.io> References: <1530485129608602508.7026@groups.io> Message-ID: <02d601d42810$6efe89f0$4cfb9dd0$@net> Has anyone got the PATed 9100 displaying a useful panadapter on the satellites? I?m getting sort of, useful signals on HF and repeaters. I?ve been tweaking my SDRPlay setup here for several days and just barely see anything on the visual display. Now I?m comparing this to my Flex VU5K which has an excellent panadapter display. I?m thinking maybe where I mounted the PAT board, it might be getting desenced, or the my old SDRPlay ver 1 could be replaced with a newer version, or better hardware. Anyone getting better results? If so your setup please? I could send pictures of what I?m seeing with the 9100 and what the VU5K is capable of to demonstrate my issue. 73 Jeff kb2m From g0kla at arrl.net Mon Jul 30 15:29:11 2018 From: g0kla at arrl.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:29:11 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all. FoxTelem reads the available spacecraft at startup. You can change it by adding or removing the spacecraft files. There are two directories to consider: 1) The logfiles folder contains a "spacecraft" folder. Inside there are one or more files ending in ".dat". For each file present FoxTelem loads a spacecraft. 2) The installation folder (where you store the FoxTelem.exe or FoxTelem.jar files) also contains a "spacecraft" folder. This contains all the static data for the spacecraft, such as layouts and lookup tables. There are a set of files that end in ".MASTER". If you copy one of the files ending in .MASTER to the logfile/spacecraft folder and change the extension to ".dat" then it will be added to FoxTelem. I'm not sure why I made it so complicated, but there is a simpler trick. If you delete all the ".dat" files from the logfiles/spacecraft folder then at startup FoxTelem will again prompt to install spacecraft and you can pick any that you want. It won't delete any of your existing collected data. By the way, you can also delete ".dat" files from the logfiles/spacecraft folder if you no longer want them, or if like me you run 3 copies of FoxTelem and only want one spacecraft in each. It does not delete your saved telemetry data but it does delete any custom changes you made to the spacecraft, such as narrowing the frequency range. At some point I'll add a menu option to add or remove spacecaft so we can add in Fox-1E, HuskySat or any others.. 73 Chris On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Ross Biggar wrote: > hi Paul, > > Yes I am using the latest version, it initially started with all the > satellites but after I downloaded the first "lot" from AO91, the rest were > "lost" > > > regards > > Ross > > ZL1WN > > ________________________________ > From: prstoetzer at gmail.com on behalf of Paul > Stoetzer > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:45:25 AM > To: Ross Biggar > Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fox Telem program > > Ross, > > Are you using the latest version of FoxTelem? It should be 1.06r and > should include support for all 5 Fox-1 satellites (AO-85, AO-91, > AO-92, Fox-1Cliff, and RadFxSat-2 / Fox-1E). > > The latest version can be downloaded at http://www.amsat.org/tlm/ > > 73, > > Paul, N8HM > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Ross Biggar > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > My Fox telem program is only showing AO-91 how can I get it to show the > other satellites as well such as AO-92, so I can deload the data from that > sat . > > > > > > Regards > > > > Ross > > > > ZL1WN > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > Opinions expressed > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethompson at gmail.com g0kla at arrl.net From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Mon Jul 30 16:58:09 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:58:09 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] USB driver for Windows 7, 64-bit, for IC-9100 Message-ID: <3f93c5e7-c96e-b056-639a-fb8ba4b97557@t-online.de> Hello, A friend of mine needs? to steer the IC-9100 by SatPC32I/SatPC32ISS via the radio's USB port for a coming ISS school contact.? ? He is using a Laptop with Windows 7, 64-bit. As he told me the generated virtual COM ports are marked with a yellow exclmation sign (which indicates a driver problem) and he gets the error message that a USB device could not be recognized. Does somebody successfully steer the IC-9100 via one ot the USB ports under Windows 7, 64bit? If so, what driver are you using (dirver name, download link)? As far as I see (I don't have an IC-9100) the driver name could be CD-301501-004.zip and the link: https://www.icom.co.jp/world/support/download/firm/IC-7600/usb1_30/ Can both USB ports be used for CAT control or only one of them? Many thanks 73s, Erich, DK1TB From marklhammond at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 17:49:07 2018 From: marklhammond at gmail.com (Mark L. Hammond) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 13:49:07 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] USB driver for Windows 7, 64-bit, for IC-9100 In-Reply-To: <3f93c5e7-c96e-b056-639a-fb8ba4b97557@t-online.de> References: <3f93c5e7-c96e-b056-639a-fb8ba4b97557@t-online.de> Message-ID: Hi Erich, I can't help entirely, but maybe I can add some information. The 2 USB ports are different--one appears to be dedicated to "CAT" control, the other to audio to/from computer and radio. So I don't think they are interchangeable. I had to experiment to figure out which was audio and which was CAT! This weekend I was using the IC-9100 on HF with FT8, with both CAT control and USB audio for xmit and receive. Very nice when working. I'm running under Win10. Coincidentally, just yesterday I tried to remove the current drivers (which are working fine!) and to replace with the lastest USB drivers from ICOM (1.3 I think, which adds more radios and USB3 maybe?). According to the docs, the first step was to remove the current drivers. This was not possible with a "remove software" typical route! So I quickly gave up and resigned to using the current drivers, which work fine anyhow. My initial thoughts--have him remove any existing Icom USB drivers, per the instruction sheets. Next, Make SURE the rig is not connected via the USB cable. Install new drivers per the instructions. Then connect rig. Figure out which ports were installed (Device Manager). Try setting in SatPC32 to one of them, if that doesn't work, try the other com port number installed. There is a good bit of documentation on the iCom site, so your friend may have some good reading to do first :) Sorry I can't be any more help than that... 73, Mark N8MH On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Erich Eichmann wrote: > Hello, > A friend of mine needs to steer the IC-9100 by SatPC32I/SatPC32ISS via > the radio's USB port for a coming ISS school contact. He is using a > Laptop with Windows 7, 64-bit. > As he told me the generated virtual COM ports are marked with a yellow > exclmation sign (which indicates a driver problem) and he gets the error > message that a USB device could not be recognized. > > Does somebody successfully steer the IC-9100 via one ot the USB ports > under Windows 7, 64bit? > > If so, what driver are you using (dirver name, download link)? > As far as I see (I don't have an IC-9100) the driver name could be > CD-301501-004.zip > and the link: > https://www.icom.co.jp/world/support/download/firm/IC-7600/usb1_30/ > > Can both USB ports be used for CAT control or only one of them? > > Many thanks > 73s, Erich, DK1TB > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] From hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net Tue Jul 31 00:14:02 2018 From: hans.bx2abt at msa.hinet.net (Hans BX2ABT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:14:02 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV activity Message-ID: <4723346a-121c-9a54-59de-ac48df901271@msa.hinet.net> The only good pass I had was in the middle of the night, so I left my setup running and got a perfect image. No interference from the local twats who always wonder what that bird is that is occupying their frequency. I posted the two images on my website: bx2abt.com. 73 de Hans BX2ABT From mikflathead at aol.com Tue Jul 31 00:44:41 2018 From: mikflathead at aol.com (mikflathead at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:44:41 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] drive belt for EMOTATOR rotor control Message-ID: <164edcb4f8f-c8b-1446d@webjas-vae069.srv.aolmail.net> I recently purchased a EMOTATOR elevation rotator with an indicator problem. The little o ring that the motor drives the plastic pulley is bad. I maybe able to pickup something at the hardware store but would like to have the original part if possible. Does anyone stateside support these? Thanks Mike From rick at vk6xlr.net Tue Jul 31 02:45:45 2018 From: rick at vk6xlr.net (Rick Kowalewski) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:45:45 +0800 Subject: [amsat-bb] USB driver for Windows 7, 64-bit, for IC-9100 In-Reply-To: <3f93c5e7-c96e-b056-639a-fb8ba4b97557@t-online.de> References: <3f93c5e7-c96e-b056-639a-fb8ba4b97557@t-online.de> Message-ID: <06131717-3e65-b418-bc21-b2b1686ef53b@vk6xlr.net> Hi Erich, Just the first port is used for CAT control. I'm using the v1.20 USB driver.? It works very well for the IC-9100 under Win7 64pro. File name is CD-301501-003.zip As far as I know, the latest version, v1.30 is for Win10, and does not work correctly under Win7.? See *** The "CP210x_Universal_Windows_Driver_ReleaseNotes.txt" included in the zip reads: "RELEASE NOTES ============= Silicon Labs Virtual COM Port (VCP) Universal Driver for Windows 10 Package version: 10.1.2 Release date:??? 2018-05-14 This package contains a Virtual COM Port Universal driver for Microsoft Windows 10 for use with Silicon Labs VCP USB Serial Bridges. These devices include the CP2102N, CP2102, CP2103, CP2104, CP2105, CP2108, CP2109. OS VERSIONS ----------- This package provides the CP210x VCP driver for the following versions of Windows: - Windows 10??? (x86 32/64 bit) CHOOSING VCP DRIVER VERSION --------------------------- *** *VCP drivers of version 10.0.0 and later are released for Windows 10 as** **Universal Drivers.? This means they do not work on older version of Windows** **such as Window 7 and 8.1. * You should use this driver if you only need support for Windows 10, or you need the Universal driver.? If you require support on older versions of Windows, you should use the legacy VCP driver which can be found on the Silicon Labs web site.? The legacy Windows VCP drivers have version numbers less than 10.0.0." 73, Rick VK6RK On 31/07/2018 00:58, Erich Eichmann wrote: > Hello, > A friend of mine needs? to steer the IC-9100 by SatPC32I/SatPC32ISS > via the radio's USB port for a coming ISS school contact.? ? He is > using a Laptop with Windows 7, 64-bit. > As he told me the generated virtual COM ports are marked with a yellow > exclmation sign (which indicates a driver problem) and he gets the > error message that a USB device could not be recognized. > > Does somebody successfully steer the IC-9100 via one ot the USB ports > under Windows 7, 64bit? > > If so, what driver are you using (dirver name, download link)? > As far as I see (I don't have an IC-9100) the driver name could be > CD-301501-004.zip > and the link: > https://www.icom.co.jp/world/support/download/firm/IC-7600/usb1_30/ > > Can both USB ports be used for CAT control or only one of them? > > Many thanks > 73s, Erich, DK1TB From ec4tr.luis at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 08:53:06 2018 From: ec4tr.luis at gmail.com (EC4TR Luis) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:53:06 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for users of 2M2CP22 & 436CP42 or similar Message-ID: <57fbf579-77f5-b3c2-ea5c-168a90e47ae4@gmail.com> Hi all I just bought these two antennas and I want to use them without the phaser for circular polarization. I want to use a switch for H and V in the mast, the idea is to use it for terrestrial & satellite with vertical rotor. I also wanted to know if routing the two coaxial cables along the boom until the horizontal crossbeam can affect the radiation diagram etc. I have consulted with the guys from M2 and they advise to route the coaxial cables towards the end of the boom and leave them hanging, but that makes the installation very complicated and will cause the boom to go awry. They also tell me about the possibility that VSWR does not match in UHF due to the phasing cables. Have any of you made similar changes with M2 antennas? This is the email exchanged with them Hello Jose, If you route the feedlines down the boom, the gain, pattern and VSWR will be degraded.? No metal can run parallel to the elements.? We recommend our L-brace kit, http://www.m2inc.com/FGLBKAM so that your coax is not hanging.? One L-brace kit is required per antenna. Additionally, if you remove all of the phasing cables, the VSWR may not match the original settings (especially for 70cm).? The antenna elements are tuned specifically to counteract any interaction with the phasing cables.? You may (or may not) be able to achieve a reasonable match when converted to V/H linear polarity.? We have not done any engineering/testing in this configuration. Regards, */Robert Brown, KR7O/* Marketing and Sales 73 Luis EC4TR -- https://www.qrz.com/db/ec4tr https://www.facebook.com/ECfourTR https://twitter.com/EC4TR?lang=es From dibor at iname.com Tue Jul 31 11:27:03 2018 From: dibor at iname.com (Dimitry Borzenko) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:27:03 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for users of 2M2CP22 & 436CP42 or similar In-Reply-To: <57fbf579-77f5-b3c2-ea5c-168a90e47ae4@gmail.com> References: <57fbf579-77f5-b3c2-ea5c-168a90e47ae4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Luis. I have use 2M2CP22 antenna as H and V with coax for each polarization routed towards the end of the boom. I have change F-type connectors on the each dipole to the N-type. Antenna was connected to the external polarization switch box, all system was works GOOD, have many sat and EME QSOs. If U do not need CP antenna why U bought it and not 2MXP22. GL with ur project. de 4z5cp ------ Original Message ------ From: "EC4TR Luis" To: amsat-bb at amsat.org Sent: 31.07.2018 11:53:06 Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for users of 2M2CP22 & 436CP42 or similar >Hi all >I just bought these two antennas and I want to use them without the >phaser for circular polarization. > >I want to use a switch for H and V in the mast, the idea is to use it >for terrestrial & satellite with vertical rotor. > >I also wanted to know if routing the two coaxial cables along the boom >until the horizontal crossbeam can affect the radiation diagram etc. > >I have consulted with the guys from M2 and they advise to route the >coaxial cables towards the end of the boom and leave them hanging, but >that makes the installation very complicated and will cause the boom to >go awry. > >They also tell me about the possibility that VSWR does not match in UHF >due to the phasing cables. > >Have any of you made similar changes with M2 antennas? > >This is the email exchanged with them > > >Hello Jose, > >If you route the feedlines down the boom, the gain, pattern and VSWR >will be degraded. No metal can run parallel to the elements. We >recommend our L-brace kit, http://www.m2inc.com/FGLBKAM so that your >coax is not hanging. One L-brace kit is required per antenna. > >Additionally, if you remove all of the phasing cables, the VSWR may not >match the original settings (especially for 70cm). The antenna >elements are tuned specifically to counteract any interaction with the >phasing cables. You may (or may not) be able to achieve a reasonable >match when converted to V/H linear polarity. We have not done any >engineering/testing in this configuration. > >Regards, >*/Robert Brown, KR7O/* >Marketing and Sales > > >73 Luis >EC4TR >-- https://www.qrz.com/db/ec4tr https://www.facebook.com/ECfourTR >https://twitter.com/EC4TR?lang=es >_______________________________________________ >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. >Opinions expressed >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views >of AMSAT-NA. >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite >program! >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Tue Jul 31 12:31:06 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 14:31:06 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] USB driver for Windows 7, 64-bit, for IC-9100 Message-ID: Hi? Rick, Dave, Alfred, Adrian, Kerry and all others who answered to my inquiry, many thanks to all of you for your quick and helpful answers. I have informed the user. I think he will now be able to install the proper driver correctly. 73s, Erich, DK1TB From ec4tr.luis at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 14:03:29 2018 From: ec4tr.luis at gmail.com (EC4TR Luis) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:03:29 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for users of 2M2CP22 & 436CP42 or similar In-Reply-To: References: <57fbf579-77f5-b3c2-ea5c-168a90e47ae4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Dimitry Thanks for info, I decided in those antennas because I bought it at very good price in the Italian M2 dealer and never thought before that it were so expecials, the 2MXP22 are a good choice but to much long for my project, I want to work SSB contest and satellite. 73 Luis EC4TR El mar., 31 jul. 2018 a las 13:28, Dimitry Borzenko () escribi?: > Hi Luis. > I have use 2M2CP22 antenna as H and V with coax for each polarization > routed towards the end of the boom. > I have change F-type connectors on the each dipole to the N-type. > Antenna was connected to the external polarization switch box, all > system was works GOOD, have many sat and EME QSOs. > If U do not need CP antenna why U bought it and not 2MXP22. > > GL with ur project. > > de 4z5cp > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "EC4TR Luis" > To: amsat-bb at amsat.org > Sent: 31.07.2018 11:53:06 > Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for users of 2M2CP22 & 436CP42 or similar > > >Hi all > >I just bought these two antennas and I want to use them without the > >phaser for circular polarization. > > > >I want to use a switch for H and V in the mast, the idea is to use it > >for terrestrial & satellite with vertical rotor. > > > >I also wanted to know if routing the two coaxial cables along the boom > >until the horizontal crossbeam can affect the radiation diagram etc. > > > >I have consulted with the guys from M2 and they advise to route the > >coaxial cables towards the end of the boom and leave them hanging, but > >that makes the installation very complicated and will cause the boom to > >go awry. > > > >They also tell me about the possibility that VSWR does not match in UHF > >due to the phasing cables. > > > >Have any of you made similar changes with M2 antennas? > > > >This is the email exchanged with them > > > > > >Hello Jose, > > > >If you route the feedlines down the boom, the gain, pattern and VSWR > >will be degraded. No metal can run parallel to the elements. We > >recommend our L-brace kit, http://www.m2inc.com/FGLBKAM so that your > >coax is not hanging. One L-brace kit is required per antenna. > > > >Additionally, if you remove all of the phasing cables, the VSWR may not > >match the original settings (especially for 70cm). The antenna > >elements are tuned specifically to counteract any interaction with the > >phasing cables. You may (or may not) be able to achieve a reasonable > >match when converted to V/H linear polarity. We have not done any > >engineering/testing in this configuration. > > > >Regards, > >*/Robert Brown, KR7O/* > >Marketing and Sales > > > > > >73 Luis > >EC4TR > >-- https://www.qrz.com/db/ec4tr https://www.facebook.com/ECfourTR > >https://twitter.com/EC4TR?lang=es > >_______________________________________________ > >Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. > >Opinions expressed > >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views > >of AMSAT-NA. > >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > >program! > >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of > AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > From erich.eichmann at t-online.de Tue Jul 31 16:47:34 2018 From: erich.eichmann at t-online.de (Erich Eichmann) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:47:34 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Problem fixed: USB driver for Windows 7, 64-bit, for IC-9100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, the user reported that he could fix the problem. The solution: A self powered USB hub betwen a USB port of the laptop and the USB cable to the IC-9100. Apparently, the the voltage was no longer sufficient when he had? connected all devices directly to the laptop. 73s, Erich, DK1TB From ross.biggar at outlook.com Tue Jul 31 04:21:01 2018 From: ross.biggar at outlook.com (Ross Biggar) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 04:21:01 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Downloading telemetry from CAS-4A and/or B Message-ID: Can someone please tell me how to download the telemetry from either of these 2 satellites. I have HS_sound modem installed and AGwe kiss. But are those the correct programs and what settings should I use. They are both on 4k8 GMSK. Thanks Ross ZL1WN From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 17:45:28 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:28 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Downloading telemetry from CAS-4A and/or B In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B573292-0493-4B51-ADE0-5542B877DBFD@gmail.com> Ross, HS_sound modem works very well for the CAS 4A and B, actually these birds are the easiest ones to decode, very strong and huge amount of data. You may wish to use DK3WN decoder and forwarder to upload to Satnogs and enter the race for amount of data uploaded and help the Sat operators. 73 Jean Marc (3B8DU) > On Jul 31, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Ross Biggar wrote: > > Can someone please tell me how to download the telemetry from either of these 2 satellites. > > > I have HS_sound modem installed and AGwe kiss. > > But are those the correct programs and what settings should I use. They are both on 4k8 GMSK. > > > Thanks > > Ross > > ZL1WN > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Tue Jul 31 17:47:10 2018 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:47:10 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Downloading telemetry from CAS-4A and/or B In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5cb466e80b1b800c92cf5b6a8037639f@vgnet.nl> On 31-07-2018 06:21, Ross Biggar wrote: Good evening Ross, > Can someone please tell me how to download the telemetry from either > of these 2 satellites. > I have HS_sound modem installed and AGwe kiss. Download UZ7HO HS Sound Modem (current version is 0.19b / http://uz7.ho.ua/packetradio.htm) > > But are those the correct programs and what settings should I use. > They are both on 4k8 GMSK. Select FSK G3RUH 4800bd to decode CAS-4 > > > Thanks > > Ross > > ZL1WN 73 Jan PE0SAT -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/ Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/ irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat From jean.marc.momple at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 18:01:36 2018 From: jean.marc.momple at gmail.com (Jean Marc Momple) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:01:36 +0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Downloading telemetry from CAS-4A and/or B In-Reply-To: <5cb466e80b1b800c92cf5b6a8037639f@vgnet.nl> References: <5cb466e80b1b800c92cf5b6a8037639f@vgnet.nl> Message-ID: <026DD90D-CA97-4237-B105-DB16FA46A4E8@gmail.com> Ross, Jan's mail is fully right, to the point and it works well, and sorry for not having stated these, sometimes we take things for granted. @ PE0SAT: Thanks Jan, to have cater for my shortcomings and helped Ross, you are a well respected Guru in this game anyway, and your advices to the community thru your WEB site and other communications is really appreciated, it did help me a lot with, thanks for that. 73 Jean Marc > On Jul 31, 2018, at 9:47 PM, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio via AMSAT-BB wrote: > > > > On 31-07-2018 06:21, Ross Biggar wrote: > > Good evening Ross, > >> Can someone please tell me how to download the telemetry from either >> of these 2 satellites. >> I have HS_sound modem installed and AGwe kiss. > > Download UZ7HO HS Sound Modem (current version is 0.19b / http://uz7.ho.ua/packetradio.htm) > >> But are those the correct programs and what settings should I use. >> They are both on 4k8 GMSK. > > Select FSK G3RUH 4800bd to decode CAS-4 >> Thanks >> Ross >> ZL1WN > > 73 Jan PE0SAT > > > -- > With regards PE0SAT > Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ > DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/ > Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/ > irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB at amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb From pe0sat at vgnet.nl Tue Jul 31 18:08:22 2018 From: pe0sat at vgnet.nl (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:08:22 +0200 Subject: [amsat-bb] Downloading telemetry from CAS-4A and/or B In-Reply-To: <026DD90D-CA97-4237-B105-DB16FA46A4E8@gmail.com> References: <5cb466e80b1b800c92cf5b6a8037639f@vgnet.nl> <026DD90D-CA97-4237-B105-DB16FA46A4E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 31-07-2018 20:01, Jean Marc Momple wrote: Hi Jean Marc, > > @ PE0SAT: Thanks Jan, to have cater for my shortcomings and helped > Ross, you are a well respected Guru in this game anyway, and your > advices to the community thru your WEB site and other communications > is really appreciated, it did help me a lot with, thanks for that. Thanks you for the kind words and good to hear that the information is useful. If you are missing something please let me know and I will try to update the info. I hope that next year or maybe the end of this year (fingers crossed) that my own ground station will be up and running again. > > 73 > > Jean Marc > 73 Jan - PE0SAT -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/ Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/ irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @pe0sat